| 00:02:18 | | Join idiot^ [0] (n=blackhat@dt0e1n0e.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 00:02:35 | idiot^ | rockbox supports ipod video 5g? |
| 00:02:52 | idiot^ | when you put rockbox on does it void your mac warranty |
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| 00:03:13 | petur | most probably |
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| 00:04:06 | preglow | haha |
| 00:04:09 | preglow | long time since i've seen that fella |
| 00:04:48 | aghaster | uh? i dont think it voids the warranty |
| 00:04:58 | aghaster | does it? |
| 00:05:02 | idiot^ | does it improve battery life on video? |
| 00:05:07 | aghaster | HAHA |
| 00:05:11 | aghaster | improve battery life? never |
| 00:05:27 | aghaster | on my 4th gen i got for about 4h of battery life |
| 00:05:50 | aghaster | running rockbox |
| 00:05:54 | dj-fu | that's due to an incomplete power system though, for rb |
| 00:06:00 | Bagder | reading the ipod warranty, it certainly says you can't install any other software |
| 00:06:23 | Bagder | the license warranty thing |
| 00:06:30 | dj-fu | iirc, someone was in contact with Ipod Canada and according to the helpdesk installing rockbox doesn't void any warranty |
| 00:06:33 | aghaster | you've read it? lol |
| 00:06:39 | Bagder | yes I've read it |
| 00:06:42 | aghaster | ok |
| 00:06:51 | Bagder | and no, I don't have an ipod ;-) |
| 00:07:02 | aghaster | I once called Apple asking them if they had any SDK to program stuff for their firmware... lol |
| 00:07:06 | aghaster | didn't work XD |
| 00:07:25 | preglow | hahah |
| 00:07:29 | preglow | what gives |
| 00:07:40 | aghaster | the guy who answered me simply gave me the link with details about the hardware, to create ipod accessories |
| 00:07:44 | idiot^ | anyone here have an ipod video |
| 00:07:51 | aghaster | and told me there was no SDK |
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| 00:08:04 | aghaster | i have a 4th gen photo ipod |
| 00:08:06 | aghaster | not a video |
| 00:08:06 | Bagder | "we make the SW using magic" |
| 00:08:12 | dj-fu | nano here :] |
| 00:08:17 | aghaster | SW? |
| 00:08:21 | Bagder | software |
| 00:08:23 | aghaster | ok |
| 00:08:44 | aghaster | but seriously, a company making open source firmware would only get more customers |
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| 00:08:55 | aghaster | it'd certainly attract hackers toward these mp3 players. |
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| 00:09:40 | petur | sure... what's the ratio normal users / hackers? |
| 00:09:45 | petur | apple doesn't care |
| 00:09:46 | Bagder | then say hello to Neuros |
| 00:10:01 | aghaster | well, normal users would simply benefit from the hacks and enhancement of hackers :P |
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| 00:11:07 | aghaster | Well, Mac OS X's kernel, Darwin, is open source. So Apple is a bit opened to the idea of open source |
| 00:11:11 | aghaster | even if its not complete |
| 00:11:31 | aghaster | releasing the core of their firmware would be really appreciated, but i guess nobody requested it yet |
| 00:11:48 | Bagder | I doubt they can |
| 00:11:59 | Bagder | they probably bought lots of portalplayer stuff |
| 00:12:09 | aghaster | portalplayer? |
| 00:12:22 | Bagder | yes |
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| 00:12:41 | dj-fu | the ipod's use PP chips iirc |
| 00:12:54 | aghaster | ah |
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| 00:13:12 | dj-fu | s/ipod\'s/ipods/ |
| 00:13:20 | preglow | looking forward to seeing what'll happen with the sandisk deal |
| 00:13:31 | Bagder | yeah |
| 00:13:49 | aghaster | Well, I'd just call anyway to request that, just to see the reaction. |
| 00:14:18 | aghaster | their line is free anyway. it doesnt cost me anything to call them :P (but my time) |
| 00:14:37 | Bagder | "sorry sir, the only source we have here is that little stain I have on my shirt since lunch" |
| 00:14:48 | aghaster | lollll |
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| 00:19:50 | _Veseliq_ | nn all |
| 00:21:29 | sharpe | lets see... |
| 00:26:58 | amiconn | Slasheri: The tagcache problem on archos is obviously caused by the 10000 file limit... (?) |
| 00:27:48 | amiconn | I don't think the proper reaction for tagcache should be to just refuse working, and trying to commit over and over... |
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| 00:41:52 | markun | Bagder: This can be removed I think: http://www.rockbox.org/fonts/ |
| 00:42:13 | Bagder | yeah |
| 00:42:43 | Bagder | but now sleep |
| 00:42:48 | markun | me too |
| 00:42:51 | markun | good night |
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| 00:44:01 | stripwax | evenin |
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| 00:50:16 | petur | amiconn: I think I need a better audio source for these tests |
| 00:50:27 | stripwax | so I've noticed that the bitmap in the Tex manual for Pacbox on H1xx is basically bogus. I'll be submitting a patch |
| 00:50:36 | amiconn | petur: Oh? |
| 00:50:46 | * | amiconn thought this was computer generated |
| 00:50:59 | petur | amiconn: I recorded the monitoring output back on pc, and I see the glitches too - this is all cvs builds btw |
| 00:51:08 | petur | it was... |
| 00:51:12 | petur | using speclab |
| 00:51:21 | preglow | what're you measuring? |
| 00:51:32 | petur | recording a sine |
| 00:51:39 | petur | check for glitches |
| 00:51:49 | preglow | and you've made a sine that isn't good enough? :PPP |
| 00:52:45 | petur | for line-in, is the monitoring still via the uda mixer or via the coldfire? |
| 00:52:59 | amiconn | via coldfire |
| 00:53:07 | petur | ok, I say no more |
| 00:53:17 | petur | must first loopback the pc then :( |
| 00:53:31 | amiconn | ? |
| 00:53:32 | stripwax | Dang, how do I get a screenshot from the sim again? |
| 00:54:11 | petur | amiconn: I recorded the output of the h340 back on pc thinking I'd get a copy of the pc output |
| 00:54:53 | amiconn | No you won't |
| 00:54:54 | petur | the recording of the monitoring is even wordse: it contains phase shifts |
| 00:55:04 | petur | worse even |
| 00:55:18 | stripwax | nemmind, got it, just realised I've made about three trillion screenshots.. |
| 00:55:37 | amiconn | Uh, phase shifts? |
| 00:55:44 | petur | yeah |
| 00:56:03 | petur | and I'm testing on a cvs build :( |
| 00:56:25 | amiconn | There might be glitches in the monitoring when recording from spdif in, but I wouldn't expect phase shifts/glitches when recording from analog |
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| 00:56:42 | petur | you need to record several minutes to be sure you catch a glitch |
| 00:57:11 | petur | there were two shifts reletively close after each other, and a bit later an empty part |
| 00:57:15 | XavierGr | stripwax: Push num_0 |
| 00:57:21 | petur | relatively even |
| 00:58:10 | * | petur loopbacks his pc audio to check the source |
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| 00:59:18 | stripwax | XavierGr - not on my laptop :-( but F5 seems to do the trikc |
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| 01:00:26 | * | petur swears at his pc and at speclab |
| 01:00:39 | petur | DAMN the glitches are coming from the pc |
| 01:01:12 | amiconn | Are you looping the waveform? |
| 01:01:32 | petur | I'm using the tone generator module of speclab |
| 01:01:41 | preglow | i can give you seamlessly looped sine right now if you want to |
| 01:01:44 | preglow | ah |
| 01:01:46 | * | amiconn googles |
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| 01:02:07 | petur | 'DL4YHF's Spectrum Lab' |
| 01:02:43 | petur | preglow: I want to try that |
| 01:02:55 | preglow | petur: any specific freq and length you want? |
| 01:03:16 | petur | I've been testing 200Hz |
| 01:03:23 | * | amiconn doesn't really trust soundcards |
| 01:03:35 | petur | me neither now |
| 01:03:44 | petur | nvidia crap |
| 01:04:22 | amiconn | Hmm |
| 01:04:46 | * | amiconn should generate a continuous .wav of several minutes, and record that, both via spdif and analog |
| 01:04:55 | stripwax | ok patch added, 5475. If pacbox is part of the upcoming release then this should be committed for the manual |
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| 01:05:33 | amiconn | Looped wav doesn't help me, as I will be using the good ol' archos as a source |
| 01:05:54 | amiconn | (possible thanks to the pcm codec) |
| 01:06:30 | * | amiconn fires up audacity |
| 01:06:35 | * | petur needs to check at work if there's some audio generation equipment in the lab |
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| 01:08:37 | preglow | petur: www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/sine.wav, perfectly looped |
| 01:08:48 | preglow | small too, so you should hear any looping glitches fast and often |
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| 01:18:58 | amiconn | petur: How do you find those glitches? |
| 01:19:11 | petur | preglow:perfect! thanks |
| 01:19:44 | petur | amiconn: guess... looking at the waveform. audacity is good at showing those buggers when zoomed out |
| 01:19:53 | preglow | np, lemme know if you need any other ones, i wrote a small tool to generate them to test rockbox gapless playback, heh |
| 01:20:18 | * | amiconn cannot imagine how this should work... |
| 01:20:24 | * | petur discovers winamp's looping is perfect |
| 01:20:29 | preglow | ! |
| 01:20:44 | preglow | that i would not have guessed |
| 01:21:04 | petur | ;) |
| 01:21:26 | amiconn | petur: When zoomed out, how can you see glitches in single periods? |
| 01:22:22 | petur | somehow there's an articfact in the display, hard to explain - will give a screenshot |
| 01:22:33 | amiconn | Hmm, lemme see |
| 01:22:40 | * | amiconn just made a test recording |
| 01:22:48 | amiconn | Bah, usb woes... :( |
| 01:23:15 | preglow | audacity generates the peak display by averaging samples, i'd guess |
| 01:23:22 | amiconn | Hard freeze even... :( |
| 01:23:26 | preglow | a phase error in a sine will give a very different average value |
| 01:23:52 | preglow | amiconn: i got one of those in the playback screen on h1x0 today |
| 01:24:11 | preglow | amiconn: usb logo didn't show, screen locked, backlight reacted, though |
| 01:24:20 | amiconn | Wanted to plug usb, from the menu, after returning from the recording screen |
| 01:25:01 | petur | amiconn: http://petur.homedns.org:8080/recglitch2.png is zoomed out version of http://petur.homedns.org:8080/recglitch1.png |
| 01:25:34 | * | petur loads his unboosted testcode again |
| 01:25:53 | amiconn | Oh, and I thought my test recording was noisy... |
| 01:26:28 | * | amiconn tested with 1000Hz in the left channel, and 750Hz in the right |
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| 01:28:13 | amiconn | Hmm, no glitches here (apart from a 1-second dropout caused by the archos not rebuffering in time) |
| 01:28:30 | Hoang | Hi |
| 01:29:02 | Hoang | Can somebody help me with an issue with Rockbox on my iPod Photo? |
| 01:30:24 | preglow | just ask away |
| 01:30:31 | Hoang | Ok |
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| 01:30:39 | Hoang | Whenever i restart my ipod the settings disappear |
| 01:30:43 | Hoang | and it defaults to default rockbox stuff |
| 01:30:57 | Hoang | (when i shut it down adn turn it back on) |
| 01:31:07 | aghaster | Hoang: Don't boot your ipod with hold switch enabled |
| 01:31:15 | Hoang | Ok |
| 01:31:21 | kNIGits | g'morning all |
| 01:31:25 | preglow | hi |
| 01:31:32 | amiconn | humm..... |
| 01:31:50 | kNIGits | is the person responsible for the rockbox bugtracker available? |
| 01:31:53 | Hoang | Oh i have another question: To charge the ipod I need to boot up Rockbox then hold the menu button when i plug in the connector, correct? |
| 01:31:58 | Hoang | Then it'll charge? |
| 01:32:39 | aghaster | just let it plugged in. |
| 01:32:41 | aghaster | and it'll charge |
| 01:33:40 | Hoang | when i plug it in without doing anything it freaks out. It loads up the disk mode then loads up rockbox and keeps on goin in a loop |
| 01:34:05 | petur | amiconn: NO glitches AT ALL with the unboosted code. I just can't test s/pdif of course :/ |
| 01:34:16 | * | amiconn can |
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| 01:34:28 | amiconn | ...with a slight change to pcm_record.c though |
| 01:34:42 | petur | need patch? |
| 01:34:49 | amiconn | I need to ignore 'valnogood', since the mas seems to not generate this flag correctly |
| 01:35:33 | preglow | god |
| 01:35:37 | preglow | i love people who don't keep to the specs |
| 01:35:50 | amiconn | huh? |
| 01:36:02 | preglow | relating to valnogood not being set |
| 01:36:05 | preglow | it should be |
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| 01:38:13 | kNIGits | is the person responsible for the rockbox bugtracker available? |
| 01:38:13 | preglow | anywho, good night |
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| 01:38:53 | amiconn | strange... |
| 01:39:04 | amiconn | The peakmeter fluctuates a bit even with spdif in |
| 01:39:36 | petur | seen that too here (line-in) |
| 01:41:06 | amiconn | (and the peakmeter going down while saving is rather irritating) |
| 01:41:41 | petur | it is... |
| 01:42:44 | amiconn | Bah, usb seems to be always freezing on me today :( |
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| 01:44:03 | petur | I've noticed that usb during app run stops working after some insert/disconnects. The usb symbol comes on the display but windows doesn't see it. power down and up the iriver and all is well again |
| 01:44:30 | amiconn | spdif recording seems to be bit perfect |
| 01:44:46 | amiconn | Even rolo fixes it |
| 01:45:09 | amiconn | I get 2 alternating usb misbehaviours, either the one you described, or a hard freeze |
| 01:45:43 | amiconn | Got a patch? |
| 01:45:48 | petur | indeed, rolo fixes it too :) |
| 01:45:56 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5457 |
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| 01:46:29 | kNIGits | are you guys happy with your bugtracker? |
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| 01:46:54 | amiconn | petur: Huh? 'The patch above...' <−− there is only one below? |
| 01:47:02 | idiot^ | when using rockbox and listening to a song i hear you cannot do anything else while the song is playing |
| 01:47:04 | idiot^ | is that true |
| 01:47:14 | petur | yeah, it was bad... use the one below :) |
| 01:48:20 | amiconn | Yeah, but why does it reference a non-existing file? |
| 01:48:22 | Hoang | hey "idiot^" I'm pretty sure u can do other stuff while song is palying |
| 01:48:27 | Hoang | but some plugins may stop the music |
| 01:48:27 | * | kNIGits sighs, and goes back to #flyspray |
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| 01:48:34 | * | amiconn thinks that removing history is a bad feature for a tracker |
| 01:48:35 | Hoang | like doom which has its own sound etc |
| 01:48:56 | petur | huh? works here... |
| 01:49:07 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11738 |
| 01:49:09 | idiot^ | ? |
| 01:49:09 | idiot^ | anyone alive here with an ipod 5g |
| 01:49:40 | amiconn | petur: The link below works... I mean that the text references another patch file which isn't present anymore... |
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| 01:50:14 | petur | I deleted that attachment, yes. but the link should be gone too (it is here) |
| 01:50:45 | amiconn | [01:50:16] <petur> I deleted that attachment <== that's what I mean. The tracker shouldn't allow to delete attachments |
| 01:51:18 | petur | it does, in nice bold text next to the attachment 'delete' |
| 01:51:45 | amiconn | hmm. |
| 01:52:00 | petur | maybe we have too much rights... |
| 01:52:04 | * | amiconn notices that he shouldn't have made the test .wav full-scale |
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| 01:56:15 | idiot^ | is iPod Linux and rockbox the same thin |
| 01:56:57 | petur | hmmmm one glith at the moment the disk powered down - this is with my agc build.... |
| 01:57:22 | petur | I must test this stuff a bit more, but not now - bedtime |
| 01:57:30 | amiconn | Maybe the agc detects a spike and changes gain? |
| 01:57:49 | dj-fu | idiot^, absolutely not, rockbox is not linux based or a re-code of any previous firmware |
| 01:57:51 | * | amiconn wonders whether petur isn't interested in the spdif test result |
| 01:58:01 | * | petur is |
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| 01:58:33 | idiot^ | so what is rockbox |
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| 01:59:22 | dj-fu | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox |
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| 02:01:08 | * | petur wonders if amiconn has s/pdif test results :D |
| 02:01:20 | amiconn | Gah, a glitch :/ |
| 02:02:15 | amiconn | ...after 7.43 seconds |
| 02:02:59 | petur | this is weird. whatboutbob had the same thing: the glitch(es) were only in the beginning |
| 02:03:56 | petur | right, I need some sleep. later all... |
| 02:04:00 | amiconn | http://amiconn.dyndns.org/spdif_glitch1.png |
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| 02:04:34 | amiconn | This is audible... |
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| 02:06:20 | amiconn | And a similar one after 05:20.99 |
| 02:08:28 | amiconn | ...and 02:51.13 |
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| 02:08:44 | amiconn | This is at the point of spindown after buffer flush |
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| 02:16:27 | amiconn | Dito at 02:40.49 and 05:31.67 |
| 02:18:41 | amiconn | Correction: 02:40.49 and 05:20 are the spinup points, 02:51.13 and 05:_31.67 are the spindown points |
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| 02:45:12 | sharpe | whee!! |
| 02:45:47 | midkay | sharpe, you whore. |
| 02:45:53 | midkay | ignore me in factions and then leave. |
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| 03:03:01 | idiot^ | does rockbox drain your battery faster than appleOS? |
| 03:03:06 | midkay | yes. |
| 03:03:09 | idiot^ | i own a 5g apple black 30gb video |
| 03:03:12 | idiot^ | roarr |
| 03:03:14 | idiot^ | how much faster |
| 03:03:20 | midkay | depends.. |
| 03:03:24 | Mikachu | 5 billion fantasillion times! |
| 03:03:28 | idiot^ | nooo!!! |
| 03:03:30 | idiot^ | =( |
| 03:03:33 | idiot^ | im bored of appleOS |
| 03:03:41 | midkay | not that it won't get better, but considering the ipods are completely 'unsupported' and absolutely not optimized at all.. |
| 03:03:51 | midkay | so try it and find out if it lasts long enough. |
| 03:03:51 | Mikachu | not much faster |
| 03:04:00 | Mikachu | maybe 10-40% |
| 03:04:06 | sharpe | you'll probably get about 4 to five hours of rockbox use... |
| 03:04:28 | idiot^ | i can squeeze out like 1 hour and 20 mins of video usage on AppleOS |
| 03:04:47 | midkay | FYI, rockbox doesn't have any video support.. |
| 03:05:04 | Mikachu | i think the difference is bigger on hd players than on flash |
| 03:05:19 | idiot^ | hows rockbox run |
| 03:05:24 | idiot^ | partitions? |
| 03:05:32 | midkay | .. |
| 03:06:02 | midkay | that makes no sense at all.. it runs *off* a partition, much like every file on your disk.. |
| 03:06:21 | Mikachu | you don't need any more partitions, it runs from the main fat partition |
| 03:06:40 | idiot^ | i c. |
| 03:06:48 | idiot^ | is it easy to uninstall? |
| 03:06:54 | sharpe | yes |
| 03:07:01 | idiot^ | hmmm |
| 03:07:40 | idiot^ | so rockbox is basically used for music |
| 03:07:45 | idiot^ | is there any screenshots out there? |
| 03:07:59 | midkay | not much to see, but check the manual. |
| 03:08:37 | idiot^ | when you install rockbox you don't lose all your files on your ipod right? |
| 03:08:39 | ashridah | at the moment. there's been work on getting video codecs running, but the problem is, that's more for the iriver H3xx series, since to do video on the ipod video will require specs for a chip that is completely undocumented |
| 03:09:26 | ashridah | if it came to the point where you had to do a restore, apparently you would, but installing rockbox doesn't delete your music/files no |
| 03:09:56 | idiot^ | asridah, thanks. |
| 03:10:35 | ashridah | but that would be if it actually broke and was unbootable. and we remind you that rockbox on the ipod isn't supported yet :) |
| 03:10:46 | idiot^ | -.- |
| 03:11:18 | idiot^ | when installing rockbox it gives you a boot menu |
| 03:11:19 | idiot^ | ? |
| 03:12:12 | ashridah | apparently, i haven't used the ipod port, so i don't know exactly what it looks like tho. |
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| 03:15:30 | midkay | it does not.. |
| 03:15:39 | midkay | you can get to the apple OS with the menu key during boot, though. |
| 03:16:38 | ashridah | ah. that's where i may have been confused :) |
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| 03:44:40 | sharpe | what should sharpe do? |
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| 04:45:13 | thePianoMan | just an idea guys, has anyone given any thought to using doxygen for the rockbox source? |
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| 04:45:22 | * | thePianoMan puts on flameproof suit |
| 04:46:29 | whatboutbob | amiconn: just a quick heads-up for recording tests, if you haven't considered it... i've found the easiest way to spot glitches is to filter out the sine frequency you recorded, so then all you're left with is the glitches. |
| 04:48:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | thePianoMan: Do you want to go through making the necessary setup? |
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| 04:50:34 | thePianoMan | do you mean configuring doxygen or actually documenting the source files? |
| 04:51:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Both |
| 04:52:08 | thePianoMan | i would be happy to play around with doxygen's config but actual documentation could be done in bits and pieces |
| 04:53:04 | thePianoMan | I'm totally new at all this open source stuff though so I have no idea if it would be useful or help in any way. |
| 04:54:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think Doxygen has been suggested before, though I don't recall if there were objections or not. I *think* that the general consensus was that the real issue was getting the code itself documented properly. |
| 04:54:29 | sharpe | i'm going to sleep. |
| 04:54:34 | sharpe | g'night everyone. |
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| 04:57:02 | daurn|laptop | o.o |
| 04:57:10 | thePianoMan | Paul_The_Nerd: I understand - I guess that for the person who wrote the code, commenting could be (in their mind) a waste of time |
| 04:57:11 | daurn|laptop | Paul_The_Nerd: you nerd |
| 04:57:13 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 04:57:17 | daurn|laptop | your always on here |
| 04:58:14 | thePianoMan | Though I think that the Rockbox project would be more likely to attract new developers if there was better documentation |
| 04:58:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | thePianoMan: Well, a lot of people don't have much time to work on Rockbox anyway. Many of them spend all that time just coding, and don't even have any to document. In an ideal world, there would be time, but in the choice between "getting it working" and "documenting what I've got", well, guess which gets picked. Especially since everyone here is unpaid volunteer programming. :) |
| 04:59:05 | Mikachu | i think the only hard part is the lcd stuff, and someone wrote docs for that in the wiki |
| 04:59:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fortunately, *I* am not yet to blame for any of this. |
| 04:59:21 | daurn|laptop | if code is commented, you don't get people saying "rockbox is to hard to port" - and you get more ports |
| 04:59:22 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 04:59:38 | JdGordon | nope |
| 04:59:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | But only because I haven't yet written anything, of my own outside of like... adapting some button mappings for plugins and little bits like that. |
| 04:59:43 | JdGordon | its still hard to port.. |
| 04:59:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | The hard part isn't existing code, in most cases. |
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| 05:00:59 | thePianoMan | I understand why people don't comment code. I would be happy to try and write code patches for parts of the code. But if someone is going to write documentation for existing code it would make sense (in my mind) to have a consistent documentation system. |
| 05:01:02 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: but if commented, people try |
| 05:01:09 | JdGordon | i would think the hardest part with portinig to a new target is getting the drivers written which is diff for all targets, so commenintg that wont make it any easier.. |
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| 05:01:42 | * | JdGordon ouwld be all for commenting the code.. but its boring and u actually need to understand it to be able to do it.. |
| 05:01:48 | JdGordon | which is why its not happenng.. |
| 05:01:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | thePianoMan: I agree that a consistent documentation would be nice. I'd recommend asking LinusN and Bagder at least how they feel about doxygen |
| 05:02:09 | daurn|laptop | i'd even have a try |
| 05:02:16 | daurn|laptop | ^_^ |
| 05:02:26 | ashridah | I'd be inclinde to agree. even if people propose ports, often they don't know anywhere near enough about the platform's hardware or the required assembly language for it to be able to make decent progress. |
| 05:02:28 | thePianoMan | I just googled the IRC logs for doxygen and saw that it had been mentioned |
| 05:02:48 | JdGordon | doxygen would be good... but a PITA to setup.. but once its there it would be INVALUABLE... |
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| 05:03:17 | ashridah | but that said, more documentation the better. particularly for people doing plugin development, etc. |
| 05:03:32 | thePianoMan | maybe there are other documentation engines that are easier to set up... might do some more research |
| 05:03:54 | JdGordon | seen as comments doesnt really effect the code i doubt the core devs would mind seeing patches and commiting them during the freeze... |
| 05:04:02 | ashridah | I'd be inclined to setup something similar to LXR too |
| 05:04:36 | * | JdGordon has lots of shit to do and 3 hours to do it in... cya later |
| 05:07:08 | daurn|laptop | i always comment my own code |
| 05:07:09 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 05:07:34 | daurn|laptop | mainly so that i can remeber what it does 2 months later XD |
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| 05:28:04 | daurn|laptop | is any1 working on a iriver H10 port? |
| 05:30:51 | ashridah | not to my knowledge, although since it's a portalplayer based product, it wouldn't be infeasable given the ipod work. |
| 05:31:17 | ashridah | probably going to require sacrificial hardware tho |
| 05:31:38 | daurn|laptop | forget that |
| 05:31:38 | daurn|laptop | ;P |
| 05:32:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sacrificial hardware or someone with... was it a JTAG interface? |
| 05:32:17 | ashridah | Paul_The_Nerd: even then, it'd probably require disassembly |
| 05:32:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd been led to believe that at least that way the hardware could be recovered. |
| 05:37:27 | daurn|laptop | well |
| 05:37:28 | daurn|laptop | anyway |
| 05:37:37 | daurn|laptop | i think i'm ready to at least *start* a port |
| 05:42:10 | daurn|laptop | i've got a few baddish quality shots of the pcb |
| 05:42:21 | daurn|laptop | as well as some chip names/numbers written down |
| 05:42:41 | daurn|laptop | what do i need? |
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| 05:47:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably figuring out what's necessary to implement a bootloader. |
| 05:49:44 | daurn|laptop | ... how |
| 05:49:45 | daurn|laptop | :P |
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| 05:51:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | If there were a set process for it, it'd probably already be done. |
| 05:53:02 | daurn|laptop | i/we have an exploit |
| 05:53:16 | daurn|laptop | is a bootloader a nessecity |
| 05:54:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pretty much. I mean, ideally when the device is turned on, Rockbox should load with a release-ready version. |
| 05:54:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not necessary to work on the port, but it should be necessary before it's ready to release |
| 05:54:45 | daurn|laptop | ok |
| 05:54:55 | daurn|laptop | i *would* like to work with the exploit |
| 05:55:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm? |
| 05:55:08 | daurn|laptop | i don't have the time or money to replace a bricked one |
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| 05:56:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does the exploit allow you to load and execute third party code? |
| 05:58:03 | daurn|laptop | yes |
| 05:58:39 | daurn|laptop | with the help of others i/we got a primitve medios port, and played doom & a gameboy emulator |
| 05:58:40 | daurn|laptop | :D |
| 05:58:58 | daurn|laptop | but, i would like rockbox |
| 05:59:29 | daurn|laptop | and it seems i've gotta do it myself |
| 05:59:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it sounds like you've got the necessary information to create display and button drivers for Rockbox. |
| 05:59:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, every port starts with one person |
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| 06:01:18 | daurn|laptop | ok |
| 06:01:24 | daurn|laptop | now, what do i do |
| 06:01:25 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 06:04:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Start looking and the hardware-specific bits of Rockbox, and create equivalents for whatever hardware it is you're working on. |
| 06:05:48 | JdGordon | the h10 is mostly like the ipod isnt it? so alot of the work is likely done for u already... |
| 06:05:58 | JdGordon | u just need the lcd and button drivers.. |
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| 06:06:07 | daurn|laptop | one i want to do now is archos gmini 402 |
| 06:06:10 | daurn|laptop | i have one |
| 06:06:18 | daurn|laptop | and i've coded for it b4 |
| 06:09:42 | daurn|laptop | is it best to get the latest source? |
| 06:10:00 | daurn|laptop | hmm |
| 06:10:03 | daurn|laptop | dead link: The requested URL /daily/rockbox-daily-20060601.tar.gz was not found on this server. |
| 06:10:51 | daurn|laptop | .bz2 work |
| 06:11:05 | JdGordon | heheh./.. its not 1/6/6 yet on the build servers... |
| 06:11:19 | JdGordon | actually.. sorry.. it is.. JUST.. |
| 06:11:20 | daurn|laptop | http://www.rockbox.org/daily/source/rockbox-daily-20060601.tar.bz2 works |
| 06:11:21 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 06:11:28 | daurn|laptop | .gz doesn't |
| 06:11:46 | JdGordon | meh, no big deal.. |
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| 06:14:38 | JdGordon | writing psuedo code in word is PAINFUL:L :p |
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| 06:15:35 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 06:15:39 | daurn|laptop | write the real code |
| 06:15:39 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 06:15:53 | JdGordon | for an assignemnt.. atually asking fo pc |
| 06:16:10 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 06:16:16 | daurn|laptop | thats pointless |
| 06:16:17 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 06:16:23 | JdGordon | HUGELY |
| 06:16:39 | JdGordon | the subject is software analysis and design... so no coding... |
| 06:18:17 | ashridah | ugh |
| 06:18:29 | ashridah | our soft-eng lecturer managed to squeeze code into his exams. |
| 06:18:43 | ashridah | i mean actual code, not pseudocode. |
| 06:18:58 | ashridah | damned sod asked us to write junit tests to cover the functionality of a class. |
| 06:19:07 | ashridah | so much writing, so little marks :( |
| 06:19:14 | JdGordon | ha |
| 06:19:18 | daurn|laptop | hey |
| 06:19:21 | daurn|laptop | with rockbox |
| 06:19:34 | daurn|laptop | should you keep your working copy up2date with the latest? |
| 06:19:42 | daurn|laptop | or doesn't it matter if it gets out of date |
| 06:19:46 | JdGordon | if u want to.... |
| 06:20:39 | ashridah | depends on your style. a big merge is likely to be harder than many smaller ones, just depends on what kind of work's going on, and how invasive your work is |
| 06:20:57 | JdGordon | untill yesterday my source tree was sooo fubared :D i had about 6 diff things i was working on all in 1 tree :D |
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| 06:37:50 | daurn|laptop | ok |
| 06:37:59 | JdGordon | DONE |
| 06:38:03 | JdGordon | fuck ye |
| 06:38:10 | JdGordon | no more freeking assignments due |
| 06:38:13 | daurn|laptop | now |
| 06:38:15 | midkay | haha. grats. |
| 06:38:22 | daurn|laptop | how do i compile rockbox |
| 06:38:22 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 06:38:25 | daurn|laptop | which folder? |
| 06:38:33 | Kratos | ahh, I just learned a few days ago |
| 06:38:38 | JdGordon | i just hope my idiot group mates can compile it and hand it in tomorw without me :p |
| 06:38:55 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: u got the cross compiler setup? |
| 06:39:51 | daurn|laptop | i have a compiler |
| 06:39:52 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 06:39:57 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DocsIndex#For_Developers |
| 06:40:05 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 06:40:05 | daurn|laptop | ok |
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| 06:47:32 | ashridah | JdGordon: were the group mates your choice? |
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| 07:12:36 | JdGordon | ashridah: would have been but we were all the slackers who didnt get into groups by ourselfs so we were put together.. |
| 07:12:47 | daurn|laptop | ok |
| 07:12:47 | daurn|laptop | so |
| 07:12:48 | daurn|laptop | is there a table somewhere of all chips used in all the differnet deviecs? |
| 07:12:53 | daurn|laptop | showing whats in common etc |
| 07:19:33 | ashridah | JdGordon: heh. I deliberately started headhunting people before the semester started in order to get a competent group. even then, i still had to pull a bit more weight than the rest of the team, because they were all doing another subject with the same lecturer, and that lecturer decided that he'd make the major assignments for both subjects due on exactly the same day. |
| 07:21:38 | ashridah | he 'retired' at the end of the year, fortunately. |
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| 07:24:04 | Hoang | hi, can soembody help me w/ my ipod? I cannot get it to charge |
| 07:24:18 | Hoang | When i connect in the power it keeps restarting. It boots up to rockbox then it goes to disk mode then back to rockbox, etc. |
| 07:28:48 | daurn|laptop | any1? |
| 07:28:52 | Hoang | ok nevermind, after disconnecting and 50 tries |
| 07:28:59 | Hoang | it finally loads up rockbox without power |
| 07:29:06 | Hoang | then i get into disk mode successfully and charge |
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| 07:44:19 | daurn|laptop | cyas |
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| 07:50:40 | JdGordon | ashridah: ha, that sux |
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| 07:55:45 | ashridah | yeah. especially since my partners vanished over one week of the three week period we had to write the code and test it. didn't make things much easier, although that was partly my fault for not organising things a bit better. |
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| 07:56:13 | JdGordon | never blame yourself... |
| 07:56:17 | JdGordon | its always their fault.. |
| 07:56:22 | JdGordon | :D |
| 07:56:52 | ashridah | i say partly, mostly because i actually TOLD them to do some work over the holidays ;) |
| 07:58:23 | JdGordon | the pirate bay has been shut down??? |
| 07:59:08 | ashridah | that was inevitable, i suspect. their parliament was considering copyright law changes iirc |
| 07:59:09 | Hoang | omg |
| 07:59:38 | Hoang | torrentspy still alive |
| 07:59:39 | Hoang | mininova |
| 07:59:51 | Hoang | isohunt |
| 07:59:52 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 07:59:52 | * | ashridah suspects it's only a matter of time before these services move to cuba or whatever |
| 07:59:56 | Hoang | torrentreactor |
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| 08:00:03 | ashridah | just like many online gambling sites have |
| 08:00:06 | Hoang | lol |
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| 08:07:16 | Hoang | Does the battery indicator showing empty affect the ipod Photo/Color or just the 3G? |
| 08:07:18 | Hoang | the site isn't very claer |
| 08:07:20 | Hoang | *clear |
| 08:07:31 | Hoang | First it says it's a known issue for 4G and higher then it says it's for 3G |
| 08:07:48 | Hoang | before that it says that rockbox doesn;t run on 1g-3g |
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| 08:27:25 | moda|ASOT | guys, i need big big big help! |
| 08:27:42 | midkay | you might just get it if you tell us what you need help with |
| 08:27:57 | moda|ASOT | my h340 is totally bricked.... i mean totally.... and i have no idea what to do... |
| 08:28:15 | moda|ASOT | it was working this morning, turned it off, left it in my locker and went to school |
| 08:28:35 | midkay | i can't really help there, but.. how do you know it's bricked? it doesn't just 'brick' itself.. not last i checked.. :) |
| 08:29:02 | moda|ASOT | and i turned it on in the arvo, and rockbox fails to boot, says result= -1 and when i boot into the iriver firmware, it gives me the 0000 songs and 0000 folders error.... |
| 08:29:19 | moda|ASOT | i plug it into my pc and it doesnt recognize it |
| 08:29:44 | moda|ASOT | but i can rma it, even tho its outa warranty, HOWEVER, it has rockbox on it..... |
| 08:29:46 | moda|ASOT | ARGGH |
| 08:29:52 | midkay | sounds like it possibly got formatted somehow. |
| 08:30:01 | midkay | error -1 iirc is 'rockbox not found'. e.g. not on disk.. |
| 08:30:17 | moda|ASOT | i booted into the iriver firmware, and tried to format it, but it says cant format... .like the hdd is missing |
| 08:30:29 | midkay | far from bricked in any case; bricked is completely nonfunctional, like a brick.. |
| 08:30:33 | moda|ASOT | now, is there any possibility that a connection has come loose? |
| 08:30:36 | midkay | can you hear the drive spin up? |
| 08:30:41 | Hoang | can you try formatting using windows? |
| 08:30:43 | moda|ASOT | yea it spins up |
| 08:30:52 | moda|ASOT | how would i do that hoang? |
| 08:30:53 | Hoang | or some other formatting program like partition magic? |
| 08:31:01 | midkay | he just said he couldn't, didn't he? |
| 08:31:05 | midkay | or have i misread something? |
| 08:31:13 | midkay | <moda|ASOT> i plug it into my pc and it doesnt recognize it |
| 08:31:13 | Hoang | oh sorry |
| 08:31:14 | Hoang | i read it wrong |
| 08:31:15 | midkay | :) |
| 08:31:23 | Hoang | i read the part about trying to format. didn't ntoice he said "firmware" |
| 08:31:34 | moda|ASOT | it doesnt show up in windows at all |
| 08:31:53 | moda|ASOT | it shows the hdd model, and when i first plugged it in it said found new hardware etc... and then nothing |
| 08:32:22 | midkay | pretty weird.. |
| 08:32:44 | moda|ASOT | in computer management, in xp, it shows it as disk2 with 168gb of space and it says cannot be initialised |
| 08:32:50 | moda|ASOT | it says unallocated or something... arghg |
| 08:33:13 | midkay | doesn't show up as a drive? |
| 08:33:19 | moda|ASOT | not in my computer no |
| 08:33:55 | midkay | hm. |
| 08:34:27 | moda|ASOT | im going to try and open it up and see if i can reseat the cables for the hdd |
| 08:34:45 | midkay | sure, i need to get to bed, i won't be of much use anyways.. |
| 08:34:54 | midkay | i think people who can help you much more though should be around soon. |
| 08:34:56 | midkay | e.g. check back. |
| 08:34:59 | midkay | or wait.. |
| 08:36:36 | moda|ASOT | i cant even get the thing off wtf |
| 08:40:03 | Hoang | Hey midkay do you know why my ipod gives me a "delayed write failed" error whenever i try to transfer files? |
| 08:40:33 | midkay | no idea, i've only had it like once, and that was when i unplugged it immediately after clicking copy. |
| 08:40:54 | Hoang | darn |
| 08:41:34 | Hoang | grr now i can't chagne files or put files on it |
| 08:41:37 | midkay | do you safely remove it? |
| 08:41:46 | Hoang | yeah' |
| 08:42:04 | Hoang | but when i try to copy windows gives me that error |
| 08:42:30 | midkay | hm.. |
| 08:42:37 | midkay | scandisk/chkdisk it? |
| 08:42:40 | midkay | *shrugs* |
| 08:42:45 | moda|ASOT | hrm... the internal design of the h300 has changed |
| 08:42:46 | moda|ASOT | WTF |
| 08:43:30 | midkay | anyways, bed it is for me.. *poof* |
| 08:43:57 | Hoang | good night |
| 08:46:52 | moda|ASOT | well this is shit |
| 08:49:20 | moda|ASOT | lucky i have a part backup of my iriver |
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| 08:52:56 | moda|ASOT | ARGH |
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| 08:54:12 | moda|ASOT | bloody hell |
| 08:54:54 | moda|ASOT | windows isnt detecting the hdd anymore..... ARGH |
| 08:56:11 | moda|ASOT | WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF |
| 08:57:09 | moda|ASOT | YARH THIS IS ANNOYINH |
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| 08:57:34 | JdGordon | meh, deap hdd.. build a bridge :D |
| 08:57:54 | JdGordon | i mean... my condolences.. |
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| 08:58:01 | moda|ASOT | but this a new revision, and it looks like the hdd is basically unreplaceable... |
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| 08:58:21 | moda|ASOT | i cant even see where the drive plugs into the mainboard |
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| 09:01:25 | moda|ASOT | is there anyway to reflash an iriver h340 back to the original firmware? |
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| 09:03:11 | Hoang | grr |
| 09:03:15 | Hoang | rockbox loves to screw up my ipod |
| 09:03:22 | Hoang | and loves to not connect nicely with my computer |
| 09:03:35 | Hoang | can anybody help me? |
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| 09:04:42 | Hoang | Can anybody help me? I'm having trouble connecting to my ipod w/ rockbox |
| 09:05:05 | moda|ASOT | Hoang i think im having more problems :p |
| 09:05:23 | Hoang | At first installed rockbox and it was all fine. Just recently i couldn't copy files over. Now I can't even view the hdd in windows |
| 09:05:31 | Hoang | =( |
| 09:05:37 | moda|ASOT | welcome to my world :p |
| 09:05:50 | Hoang | i guess |
| 09:05:52 | moda|ASOT | heh |
| 09:05:55 | Hoang | bye bye to rockbox till next version |
| 09:06:10 | Hoang | it's so awesome too =( |
| 09:06:34 | Hoang | except that it makes my ipod not want to connect to my computer |
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| 09:07:41 | Hoang | rockbox makesm e want to kill people =( |
| 09:08:34 | moda|ASOT | iriver makes me want to kill people |
| 09:08:49 | petur | Hoang: I doubt that rockbox does all this, as rockbox boots to apple firmware to connect to the pc |
| 09:08:59 | preglow | Hoang: rockbox has nothing to do with file copying |
| 09:09:19 | Hoang | weird |
| 09:09:38 | preglow | not really |
| 09:09:41 | Hoang | it used to be fine. i installed rockbox and i got my music on successfully |
| 09:09:51 | Hoang | then it stops workin |
| 09:09:58 | preglow | we don't have our own usb code, so we reboot the ipod to the apple disk mode to transfer files |
| 09:10:02 | Hoang | this happened before and i had to reformat and restore my ipod |
| 09:10:04 | nudelyn | It takes a good minute or two for my iPod to finally appear as a disk after it reboots into USB/disk mode. God knows what it is doing but it ties up any program (including Explorer) that tries to get a list of drives until it is finally ready to talk to Windows. And this is with all the stupid iTunes services removed. |
| 09:10:34 | Hoang | i see it appear in explorer but it won't open up |
| 09:10:43 | Hoang | it doesn't even say "hoang's ipo" anymore |
| 09:10:48 | Hoang | just removable disk |
| 09:10:50 | nudelyn | Hoang: Do you see the ipod reboot when you plug in the USB cable? i.e. it'sno longer in rockbox? |
| 09:10:56 | Hoang | yes |
| 09:10:56 | moda|ASOT | fucking iriver peice of fucking shit |
| 09:10:59 | Hoang | it goes into diskmode |
| 09:11:31 | Hoang | When i try to access the ipod it says H:\ is not accessible. The request could not be performed because of an I/O error |
| 09:11:37 | Hoang | *I/O device error |
| 09:11:38 | nudelyn | rockbox shouldn't be in the picture then, unless some part of the rockbox install has messed up the diskmode |
| 09:11:55 | petur | Hoang: try to run a disk check utility, your HDD seems corrupted |
| 09:12:13 | moda|ASOT | howbout some trouble shootin for poor old me then eh.... ARGH |
| 09:12:46 | petur | maybe try to do a full restore of apple firmware. If your disk is going bad, at least you'll have warranty if rockbox was removed in time. |
| 09:12:52 | Hoang | i can't even right click on the drive to goto prooperties and checkdisk or scandisk |
| 09:12:53 | amiconn | Hoang: Do you have itunes installed? |
| 09:12:56 | Hoang | yes |
| 09:13:28 | Hoang | The weird thing is that the ipod just randomly starts being weird. When i first put rockbox on i could successfully copy music over. |
| 09:13:30 | amiconn | Afaik itunes has some setting that may prevent accessing the ipod in disk mode |
| 09:13:39 | Hoang | oh no, it was working fine |
| 09:13:56 | amiconn | Note that I'm not sure, I never used itunes |
| 09:14:00 | Hoang | grr i gues i gotta boot up the mac and use it to restore ipod. |
| 09:14:07 | Hoang | the pc restore doesn't work |
| 09:14:46 | amiconn | Restore should always work |
| 09:14:51 | Hoang | on pc it just freezes |
| 09:15:03 | amiconn | Maybe you need to force the ipod into disk mode by button combos |
| 09:15:08 | Hoang | i've tried that too |
| 09:15:58 | amiconn | petur: there? |
| 09:16:10 | Hoang | I'm gonna go format it on the mac |
| 09:16:13 | Hoang | grrr stupid ipod |
| 09:16:38 | moda|ASOT | could my problems be hdd related? |
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| 09:16:47 | petur | amiconn: 50% |
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| 09:17:12 | petur | amiconn: I saw your link yesterday |
| 09:17:49 | amiconn | petur: Please find some more data in the logs |
| 09:17:56 | petur | ok |
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| 09:18:13 | amiconn | It seems that the spdif input glitches *every time* the cpu frequency changes |
| 09:18:21 | amiconn | Analog in does not, however. |
| 09:18:46 | amiconn | I tried an analog recording 2 few minutes ago, 2 full buffer flush periods |
| 09:19:16 | amiconn | The only thing I can see is a slight noise influence when the hd goes on/off |
| 09:19:36 | amiconn | Maybe that's what causes your agc code to change gain... |
| 09:19:43 | preglow | hmm |
| 09:19:52 | preglow | spdif glitches? |
| 09:19:54 | preglow | how nice! |
| 09:19:57 | preglow | in what way does it glitch? |
| 09:20:07 | amiconn | spdif glitches when boosting/unboosting while recording |
| 09:20:37 | amiconn | http://amiconn.dyndns.org/spdif_glitch1.png |
| 09:21:08 | amiconn | Seems like a couple of samples are simply missing... probably more than one period |
| 09:21:12 | preglow | ouch! dropped samples |
| 09:21:18 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:21:19 | preglow | and lots of them |
| 09:21:27 | preglow | ok |
| 09:21:31 | amiconn | No such thing with analog in, for some unknown reason |
| 09:21:46 | moda|ASOT | well this is just lame |
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| 09:22:17 | preglow | amiconn: ok, so we should both prevent boosting AND using heavy encoding codecs with spdif, then :/// |
| 09:22:29 | amiconn | why? |
| 09:22:35 | preglow | because it glitches if you do? |
| 09:22:42 | preglow | could of course force boost |
| 09:22:46 | amiconn | Wwe can still use heavy encoders |
| 09:22:57 | preglow | really? |
| 09:23:05 | amiconn | We can boost/unboost during analog recording, and stay unboosted during spdif monitoring, but always boost during spdif recording |
| 09:23:06 | preglow | not if we keep cpu at 45mhz |
| 09:23:13 | preglow | sure |
| 09:23:15 | preglow | that would work |
| 09:23:22 | preglow | i wonder how much cpu will be affected |
| 09:23:24 | preglow | eh |
| 09:23:26 | preglow | batterly life |
| 09:23:41 | amiconn | I think we even want to rather than record unboosted all the time |
| 09:23:49 | amiconn | Buffer flush takes agens when unboosted |
| 09:23:53 | amiconn | *ages |
| 09:24:15 | preglow | hmm |
| 09:24:22 | preglow | i guess battery life when recording isn't that important either |
| 09:24:23 | Mikachu | what about adding a freq level in between? |
| 09:24:38 | amiconn | cvs recording does just that (record at a constant 124MHz) |
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| 09:24:45 | preglow | amiconn: really? |
| 09:24:49 | amiconn | yep |
| 09:25:27 | moda|ASOT | DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT ATA ERROR 11 IS? |
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| 09:26:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda|ASOT: Seriously, were the caps strictly necessary? |
| 09:26:48 | amiconn | preglow: You can find the glitch positions of my spdif recording test with boost/unboost for buffer flush: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt starting 02:00 |
| 09:27:14 | amiconn | I could also give you the full thing, but it's 50MB+ ... |
| 09:27:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda|ASOT: Also, http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Arockbox.org+ATA+Error+11 |
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| 09:28:29 | moda|ASOT | Paul_The_Nerd: hehe, oops |
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| 09:28:53 | moda|ASOT | ahh hell |
| 09:28:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's what the "search" box is for on the front page of rockbox.org |
| 09:29:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | :) |
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| 09:29:24 | petur | amiconn: boosting at recording start will not be compatible with pre-recording |
| 09:29:25 | moda|ASOT | im just very angry... it just bricked itself in like.... 6 hours it was not use |
| 09:30:17 | moda|ASOT | hrm |
| 09:31:36 | petur | amiconn: the adc shouldn't have changed gain for that. anyway: it's clear I need to test this more. Maybe changing gain on the fly can cause glitches? I just don't know. |
| 09:31:52 | petur | s/adc/agc |
| 09:32:27 | moda|ASOT | oh great, now i have check hdd connection.... ARGH |
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| 09:33:24 | petur | amiconn: I noticed too that the glitches I saw also happened at spindown |
| 09:34:49 | moda|ASOT | all the ata11 errors that have been answered it seems it the hdd doesnt spin, but it spins up for me,...;. ARGH |
| 09:36:00 | moda|ASOT | is there anyway to make a iriver hdd to ide or visa versa cable? |
| 09:36:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda|ASOT: If you notice it says the error means that the HD is inaccessible, not that it doesn't spin. It only says that it is _probably_ because it doesn't spin. |
| 09:36:27 | moda|ASOT | :( |
| 09:36:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | You may want to open it up, and double check that the drive is properly seated. |
| 09:36:40 | moda|ASOT | so how do i fix it then? ive reseated the hdd like 20 times |
| 09:37:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why have you reseated it so many times? |
| 09:37:24 | moda|ASOT | it was an exageration, like, maybe 5 times, |
| 09:37:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Even then. |
| 09:37:55 | moda|ASOT | so what am i supposed to do now? |
| 09:38:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm still curious why you've had to reseat it multiple times |
| 09:38:37 | moda|ASOT | to try and get it to work? jeez |
| 09:39:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wait, so by "5 times" you mean you've just opened it since the error started happening and removed and reseated the drive 5 times? |
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| 09:39:37 | moda|ASOT | yes |
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| 09:39:49 | moda | :| |
| 09:40:08 | moda | its detected in xp now, as a mass storage device, still doesnt detect the hdd |
| 09:40:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I take it you open your player often then? |
| 09:40:48 | moda | nope, first time |
| 09:41:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just found it odd, most people wouldn't pull their drive in and out five times when they didn't even know what the problem is. |
| 09:41:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or at least I wouldn't. |
| 09:41:40 | moda | Paul_The_Nerd: its a differant problem to what it was initially |
| 09:42:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, you were getting one problem, you reseated the drive several times, and now you've got a different one? |
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| 09:42:37 | moda | at first it was detecting the hdd at all, the rockbox firmware would start then die, the hdd was spinning up and then dieing, opened it, reseated it, and now ive got this problem |
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| 09:42:59 | stripwax | morning |
| 09:43:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | The rockbox bootloader would start, or the actual firmware? |
| 09:43:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | As in, did you ever get to the Rockbox logo? |
| 09:43:14 | moda | nope |
| 09:43:31 | moda | as in, it couldnt find the rockbox directory, and gave the the error result = -1 |
| 09:43:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | So did you get an error message? |
| 09:43:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 09:44:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I guess your best bet is to get an enclosure for the disk and see what you can recover off it. |
| 09:44:23 | moda | i already have a backup of it, my main concern is flashing it to the iriver firmware to rma it |
| 09:44:29 | moda | or atleast get it working again |
| 09:45:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, get ahold of a cheap 1.8" drive from somewhere, or borrow one from someone who trusts you. |
| 09:46:17 | moda | my sister has an h320.... but i dont wanna take it appart |
| 09:46:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:46:49 | moda | they are like $200 from ebay hdds :( |
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| 09:47:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then find another way to do it. If you don't want to take the 320 apart, it's completely irrelevant to the whole situation. You don't need to get a 20 gig one. Find a much smaller capacity used one somewhere. |
| 09:47:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or get a larger capacity one, and when you get your player back use it to upgrade |
| 09:47:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though intentionally claiming to have not voided your warranty when you in fact have is technically fraud in many locales, and I feel morally obligated to inform you of this. |
| 09:47:50 | moda | i know i know i know |
| 09:48:19 | nudelyn | You're only getting them back for providing awful firmware and forcing you to install 3rd party software. :) |
| 09:49:05 | moda | where the hell am i going to get a dead ipod hdd from.... ebay sucks |
| 09:50:09 | moda | i want one of these but that works in reverse: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-PCS-iPod-1-8-Hard-drive-to-3-5-desktop-IDE-Adapter_W0QQitemZ9732266688QQcategoryZ48680QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 09:50:22 | moda | so i can put a normal desktop hdd onto my iriver |
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| 09:50:53 | amiconn | petur: The glitch I've shown is from the spdif recording, not the slight amplitude change in the analog recording that I think might trigger the agc |
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| 09:51:04 | stripwax | moda - someone on misticriver.net did exactly that. i don't know the details but search the forum# |
| 09:51:20 | stripwax | fyi i know some users have had their irivers fixed even after rockbox installed |
| 09:51:24 | stripwax | laters |
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| 09:51:34 | moda | wtf, fine then, a searching we will go |
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| 09:52:17 | petur | amiconn: I need to test gain changes tonight... |
| 09:52:36 | petur | and maybe find a small signal generator here at work ;) |
| 09:54:26 | amiconn | That would be this one: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/analog_amplitude1.png |
| 09:54:28 | moda | anyone wanna help me search for this thing? |
| 09:54:42 | amiconn | Note that the amplitude is very stable otherwise |
| 09:54:55 | amiconn | (not mains powered unit involved) |
| 09:54:59 | moda | hehe, found it nm |
| 09:55:19 | petur | server not found :( |
| 09:55:42 | amiconn | huh? |
| 09:56:02 | petur | bah... unstable network connection, nevermind |
| 09:56:11 | petur | I see it now |
| 09:56:21 | fughidabowit | hey all - is it normal for none of the Music to show up unless I select "All Files" and goto the Ipod_Control\Music folder???? |
| 09:56:32 | petur | amiconn: was that a gain change you did? |
| 09:56:41 | moda | ooooh... is the irver hdd adapter the same plug as a cf card? |
| 09:56:49 | amiconn | Nope, that was just a disk spinup during analog recording |
| 09:56:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | fughidabowit: Yup, iTunes hides it intentionally. You can also use TagCache to index your music by tags. |
| 09:57:14 | fughidabowit | ah ok - how do i load all the files into TagCache |
| 09:57:21 | petur | amiconn: interesting |
| 09:57:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | fughidabowit: The TagCache page in the wiki explains it fully |
| 09:57:48 | petur | must be due to fluctuating voltage |
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| 09:58:15 | fughidabowit | sweet thanks - already found it :) |
| 09:59:20 | amiconn | petur: Btw, why should boosting at the start of recording not be compatible with prerecording? |
| 09:59:44 | amiconn | Just that prerecording implies the recording is always started, and hence always boosts for spdif in |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:28 | petur | amiconn: oh, that way.... |
| 10:00:50 | petur | I thought boost the moment you press 'record' |
| 10:01:18 | moda | what could cause a dead hdd? |
| 10:01:27 | amiconn | Yes, if prerecording is not enabled |
| 10:01:48 | amiconn | This way, we would save energy whenever we can, and still ensure glitch-free recording |
| 10:01:53 | fughidabowit | hey Paul: do i need to install Tag Cache separately? |
| 10:02:28 | amiconn | Your patch is already perfect for H300, just H1x0 needs a bit of extension |
| 10:02:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | fughidabowit: Nope, it's built in |
| 10:03:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | moda: Age, bad luck, dropping your player, faulty parts, any of about 6 million other things |
| 10:03:11 | fughidabowit | paul: found it - im using an older build which seems to work better than the current daily (which is why i was looking in the wrong place) |
| 10:03:14 | moda | sigh |
| 10:03:23 | petur | amiconn: I'm still worried about the glitches I see in my agc setup, need to check on that tonight |
| 10:04:22 | amiconn | I think it's the agc |
| 10:04:35 | * | petur hopes it's fixable |
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| 10:05:19 | petur | I use it in safe mode: it turns down gain a bit if peaks are detected |
| 10:05:50 | petur | nice for set-and-forget concert recording |
| 10:06:05 | * | petur got his new mics and preamp yesterday :D |
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| 10:06:56 | moda | :( |
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| 10:07:30 | LinusN | moda: anything can cause a dead hd |
| 10:07:53 | LinusN | but it could just as well be the battery |
| 10:10:17 | moda | well, the hdd spins up, rockbox gives me an ata11 error, iriver says check hdd |
| 10:10:20 | moda | :| |
| 10:10:41 | moda | its half detected in windows too |
| 10:11:05 | moda | trying to find a cf card, as iirc they have the same connectors as 1.8inch hdds |
| 10:11:27 | petur | moda: the half detection is in fact the usb controller that is working ok but fails to access the disk |
| 10:11:41 | moda | i know that :) |
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| 10:11:58 | moda | it was detected the hdd before, but wouldnt show up in my computer |
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| 10:13:05 | moda | will a cf card fit into the ide plug> |
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| 10:17:13 | moda | YES |
| 10:17:18 | moda | IT SHOWS UP IN XP |
| 10:17:31 | moda | as "diskdrive" |
| 10:17:42 | moda | tho |
| 10:18:39 | moda | not really a victory |
| 10:19:57 | moda | nope |
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| 10:22:13 | moda | he microdrive is identical to a CompactFlash Type-II card...I foresee no problems with the physical replacement if you're comfortable inside the thing <0−−−−−− thats good |
| 10:24:11 | moda | here goes nothing |
| 10:25:25 | moda | bugger, doesnt fit physically, the pins line up tho |
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| 10:26:40 | moda | curses! |
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| 10:33:13 | moda | argh |
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| 10:39:18 | moda | what ways are tehre to fix the ata11 erro? |
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| 10:40:06 | LinusN | it all depends on what is wrong |
| 10:40:19 | moda | :| rofl, i knew that :p |
| 10:40:29 | LinusN | replace the hard drive, replace the battery, resolder some connections |
| 10:40:56 | moda | anyway to just reflash it back to the original iriver firmware without buying anything etc? |
| 10:41:20 | LinusN | moda: is this h100 or h300? |
| 10:41:24 | moda | h300 |
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| 10:42:15 | markun | moda: do you have a compact flash card you could put in there? |
| 10:42:18 | LinusN | why reflash to the original? |
| 10:43:02 | moda | markun: i do, but it physicaly wont, the cf card is too big, and hits something stopping it from going in |
| 10:43:09 | moda | LinusN: to rma it :p |
| 10:43:31 | LinusN | a little late for that now, isn't it? |
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| 10:44:06 | moda | not really, i have an outstanding agreement with my local iriver, coz ive had it replaced 3 times outa warranty |
| 10:44:55 | moda | argh... why cant it just work |
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| 10:51:55 | moda | so is there anyway to reflash it? |
| 10:52:05 | LinusN | not without a working hard drive |
| 10:52:09 | moda | hrm |
| 10:52:26 | moda | if i could get a hold of a cheap 5gb 1.8inch that will work, right? |
| 10:52:43 | LinusN | yes, if it really is the hard drive that is at fault |
| 10:53:04 | moda | hrm |
| 10:56:19 | moda | so what are my options? |
| 10:56:34 | moda | i just want to get it working again |
| 10:59:40 | moda | sigh... why does it have to die now |
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| 11:04:07 | moda | looks like i need a new battery or hdd :\ |
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| 11:05:46 | * | moda stabs iriver |
| 11:07:14 | dj-fu | know what player pawns all? creative zen |
| 11:07:19 | dj-fu | vison:m or whatever. |
| 11:07:28 | dj-fu | I actually considered saying it was better than my rockboxed nano |
| 11:07:49 | dj-fu | like damn, it plays XviD and DivX |
| 11:10:07 | markun | dj-fu: then at least we don't need to port rockbox to it. |
| 11:10:27 | dj-fu | ha! |
| 11:10:33 | moda | :( |
| 11:10:41 | dj-fu | that's a poor excuse. |
| 11:10:42 | markun | But of course 'better' also depends on what the user wants |
| 11:10:47 | dj-fu | I think it's one of those 'database' players |
| 11:10:53 | dj-fu | if you know what I'm on about. |
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| 11:14:34 | moda | anyone wanna take my h340 and try and fix it? |
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| 11:16:35 | moda | :( |
| 11:20:18 | moda | hey LinusN, i thought you reflashed someones h3xx when they bricked it early on on rockbox? |
| 11:20:37 | moda | using some sorta secret gadget thingo |
| 11:21:24 | petur | moda: attaching a jtag connector will get noticed by iriver when you rma it :p |
| 11:21:34 | moda | ahh, true :p |
| 11:22:00 | moda | jtag iirc is the same connecter used to program amd and intel cpus... intreging :p |
| 11:22:11 | petur | eh? |
| 11:22:17 | moda | dw |
| 11:22:50 | moda | where would i source a cheap 1.8inch hdd and spare battery? |
| 11:23:54 | markun | Spare battery (for ipod gen 1 and 2) from china on ebay |
| 11:25:36 | petur | I'd bet on trying another disk first |
| 11:28:56 | petur | rotfl: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/01/alien_duck/ |
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| 11:45:49 | natemic | hey |
| 11:45:51 | natemic | is anyone here |
| 11:46:19 | Bagder | about 103 people, you and a bot |
| 11:46:19 | LinusN | 105 people afaics |
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| 11:46:35 | LinusN | :-) |
| 11:46:45 | natemic | haha, can anyone give me some help maybe? |
| 11:47:08 | LinusN | shoot |
| 11:47:41 | natemic | if i deleted the rockbox.ipod file on accident, and i cant get it back, if i redownload the .zip from the website and put that file back on there will all my music still be there? |
| 11:47:52 | LinusN | yes |
| 11:48:51 | LinusN | and you can still restore the music from your backup, can't you? |
| 11:49:03 | natemic | yeah, i dont have the backup anymore |
| 11:49:06 | natemic | different computers |
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| 11:49:14 | natemic | it just worked though, thanks, i thought i lost everything |
| 11:49:23 | LinusN | scary feeling |
| 11:49:30 | natemic | haha |
| 11:49:33 | natemic | one more thing |
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| 11:49:46 | natemic | is there anyway to boot with the old itunes firmeware and view music like that |
| 11:50:11 | natemic | basically, i have all my flac stuff i want to be run with rockbox, and a bunch of mp3's id like to browse through with the apple interface, is that possible? |
| 11:50:15 | LinusN | well, you can load the music with itunes and use the rockbox tagcache |
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| 11:51:13 | natemic | do i just launch the ipod with the apple firmware and load music like normal and then switch between the two? |
| 11:51:27 | LinusN | rockbox has its own database |
| 11:51:48 | LinusN | but rockbox will find the music loaded by itunes when it creates the database |
| 11:52:39 | LinusN | so yes, you can use both itunes and rockbox if your music is well tagged |
| 11:53:01 | LinusN | that's what i have heard anyway, i don't have an ipod :-) |
| 11:53:25 | moda | hrm.... cheap 1.8inch hdd.... hrm |
| 11:53:25 | petur | stop advertizing itunes :p |
| 11:53:34 | dwihno | ipod ipod ipod! |
| 11:53:34 | LinusN | petur: lol |
| 11:53:51 | * | dwihno summons the itunes daemon |
| 11:55:33 | dwihno | anyone knows of any linux ways to genrate the itunes db? |
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| 11:57:33 | dj-fu | yeah, sure. Use rockbox |
| 11:58:00 | dj-fu | and rm -rf ~/.wine/c_drive/Program\ Files/iTunes |
| 11:58:02 | dj-fu | ;] |
| 11:58:04 | preglow | gnupod/gtkpod |
| 11:59:50 | dwihno | aah! |
| 11:59:53 | dwihno | really nice |
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| 12:00:06 | dwihno | dj-fu: I do use rockbox, but I still want to test the video feature... |
| 12:00:16 | dwihno | dj-fu: I never used the apple fw to play anything... |
| 12:00:20 | dj-fu | lol |
| 12:00:29 | dj-fu | I'm not sure if gtkpod/gnupod does the video stuff |
| 12:00:44 | dwihno | gnupod seems to have video support |
| 12:00:51 | dwihno | as of 21st of may |
| 12:02:56 | dj-fu | sweet. |
| 12:10:46 | moda | sigh |
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| 12:13:15 | zblach | hi |
| 12:13:35 | zblach | anyone around? |
| 12:15:11 | * | LinusN counts to 105 people |
| 12:15:21 | petur | 104 |
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| 12:15:26 | petur | 103 |
| 12:16:40 | markun | zblach: ask your quesetion quick before everyone is gone.. |
| 12:16:54 | markun | question even |
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| 12:18:23 | zblach | lol |
| 12:18:41 | zblach | i was having an issue with fonts and themes. i think i've resolved it |
| 12:19:00 | zblach | some themes that I really liked still look a bit strange, but *shrugs* |
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| 12:43:53 | moda | god damn it |
| 12:50:07 | zigford | Wowzers |
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| 13:11:17 | extintor | what is the easiest way to make rockbox remember settings ? My settings are reset everytime a charge the player. It's an iPod Nano. |
| 13:12:19 | petur | stop rockbox in a normal way after changing the settings. usb insert causes it to reboot without saving |
| 13:12:35 | petur | you can also export your settings to a cfg file |
| 13:12:55 | markun | petur: is this intentional? |
| 13:13:09 | petur | too be fixed I think |
| 13:13:15 | petur | s/too/to |
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| 13:14:51 | extintor | petur: I see, thank you for the advice :) |
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| 13:17:43 | moda | anyone got a spare 1.8inch drive? :) |
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| 13:18:08 | petur | heh |
| 13:18:25 | moda | im bidding on like 5 on ebay :| but they all have ages to go |
| 13:18:37 | moda | and i want to get it soon.... very soon |
| 13:18:54 | markun | moda: maybe you could ask a friend with an old ipod if you could borrow it |
| 13:19:17 | moda | thats what im doing, but my friend sold his old dead one a month ago :( |
| 13:20:57 | moda | egh |
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| 13:53:23 | * | petur whispers 'should I stay or should I go' by The Clash |
| 13:53:53 | * | preglow whispers the riff |
| 13:56:31 | * | whatboutbob wonders if he's walked into a karaoke session... |
| 13:57:12 | petur | no, into a silent channel with lots of people coming and going ;) |
| 13:58:31 | whatboutbob | petur: got any new patches for me? |
| 13:59:05 | petur | whatboutbob: no, I wasted an evening figuring out the glitches I saw came from my pc soundcard |
| 13:59:21 | whatboutbob | peutr: i just closed off those last couple of test files...man were they screwed... |
| 13:59:40 | petur | this is all spdif, right? |
| 13:59:46 | whatboutbob | analog. |
| 13:59:53 | petur | ouch |
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| 14:00:10 | petur | I had no problems with clean cvs + patch |
| 14:00:29 | petur | I did have problems with my personal build which includes agc |
| 14:00:47 | whatboutbob | my cvs is clean. |
| 14:00:51 | petur | so tonight I hope to get time to figure out what's going on |
| 14:01:26 | petur | you get glitches with cvs + my patch on analog in? |
| 14:01:36 | whatboutbob | you sure u/l the correct patch? remember you were talking about stuff in errr...recording.c(?) that wasn't there? |
| 14:01:42 | whatboutbob | petur: correct. |
| 14:02:03 | petur | I updated that patch now... ;) |
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| 14:02:16 | whatboutbob | not just 'glitches' though. lots and lots and lots of glitches on recording # 4 and 5. i stopped after that. |
| 14:02:27 | whatboutbob | aaaah....ok...well i haven't retested since then. |
| 14:02:52 | petur | nevermind testing. If they're on analog recording, I can test it as well |
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| 14:03:46 | petur | hmmm I thought amiconn said analog recording with my patch was ok |
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| 14:04:00 | * | petur gets all confused - must write this down somewhere |
| 14:04:29 | * | petur discovers the logbot has written it down for him |
| 14:04:46 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 14:04:50 | Jungti1234 | long time no see :) |
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| 14:06:47 | markun | Good day Jungti1234 |
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| 14:14:18 | amiconn | petur: Analog was definitely ok. Only that slight amplitude change (which I expect to see even without boost/unboost) |
| 14:15:17 | amiconn | I'll verify that theory tonight as well |
| 14:15:23 | * | petur wonders what whatboutbob is experiencing |
| 14:15:32 | amiconn | Also whether gain changes cause glitches |
| 14:15:47 | petur | yes, that I want to test too |
| 14:16:23 | * | petur writes 'get signal generator from lab' on a sticky note |
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| 14:20:01 | whatboutbob | petur: want me to u/l a sine wav? |
| 14:20:35 | petur | nah, preglow made me one last night |
| 14:22:10 | * | amiconn has a 10-minute dual-sine wav |
| 14:26:00 | * | whatboutbob is confirming Mmmm's noisy remote observations (recording) |
| 14:26:18 | whatboutbob | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4573.0 |
| 14:26:40 | petur | bleh... at least the h100 remote will be usable for looking at logf messages |
| 14:27:12 | petur | a total of 3 voters. impressive :p |
| 14:27:42 | whatboutbob | wow...i'm surprised i haven't noticed it before. i've heard noise in recordings before but figured it was my mics....... |
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| 14:28:58 | whatboutbob | for example, with 20dB of gain, levels with remote plugged in and no mic are: -72 and -63 |
| 14:29:15 | petur | I can open up the remote and check it when it arrives, but I guess it's just picking up noise on the lines that go to the uda |
| 14:29:24 | whatboutbob | same, but with remote removed, shows −−81dB on both channels. |
| 14:29:42 | amiconn | Iriver definitely seems to have a grounding problem |
| 14:29:50 | whatboutbob | fark! |
| 14:30:21 | amiconn | It's most probably in the main unit, and it differs between individual units |
| 14:31:27 | LinusN | it is in the main unit |
| 14:32:07 | petur | is it the same for h3x0 as h1x0? |
| 14:32:07 | LinusN | i haven't yet found a way to modify a ticking unit though |
| 14:32:23 | LinusN | (not that i have tried *that* hard) |
| 14:33:02 | whatboutbob | 'reduce ticking' makes no impact on the noise (but i'm guessing you smart cookies already knew that) |
| 14:33:55 | whatboutbob | so that'll be what's picking up the damn cell phone interference then. the remote's acting like a giant antenna. |
| 14:34:42 | petur | maybe tape some alu foil inside the remote? |
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| 14:35:14 | whatboutbob | petur: i imagine you'd have to find a way to ground it. |
| 14:35:22 | LinusN | or wear an anti-obduction foil hat |
| 14:35:39 | whatboutbob | linusN: i do that anyways...you never know who's trying to read your mind... |
| 14:35:56 | petur | I knew you would say that |
| 14:36:16 | * | whatboutbob sends mean thoughts petur's way. |
| 14:36:42 | * | petur concentrates on CE usb code to avoid them |
| 14:37:09 | whatboutbob | gah...that sucks.... |
| 14:37:42 | whatboutbob | on the + side, at least my mics are better than i gave 'em credit for. |
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| 14:39:14 | * | petur figures whatboutbob now has more remotes he doesn't need |
| 14:40:06 | * | LinusN is doing 8051 asm, sooo 80's |
| 14:40:13 | petur | wow |
| 14:40:38 | petur | early 90's too |
| 14:40:45 | petur | when I did that |
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| 14:42:31 | whatboutbob | petur: hehe..I'm gonna see if I can figure out a h/w mod to fix it first. now to break the news to the folks over at TS... |
| 14:43:00 | petur | they're going to like it.... not |
| 14:45:05 | * | preglow did 6502 asm four years ago |
| 14:45:20 | petur | THAT is old |
| 14:45:52 | petur | learned it at school (and thus forgot all about it) |
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| 14:52:59 | daurn|afk | hey |
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| 14:53:08 | daurn|afk | how do i add a new target? |
| 14:54:41 | LinusN | daurn|afk: it depends |
| 14:55:26 | daurn|afk | well |
| 14:55:32 | daurn|afk | i want to start a new rocbox port |
| 14:58:02 | ashridah | daurn|afk: do you actually know ARM assembly, out of interest? |
| 14:58:14 | daurn|afk | nope |
| 14:58:35 | daurn|afk | :P |
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| 15:02:49 | markun | daurn|afk: which device was it? |
| 15:02:58 | daurn|afk | archos gmini 402 |
| 15:03:32 | whatboutbob | petur: want another remote? :-p |
| 15:06:50 | petur | heh... no, just kidding ;) |
| 15:08:26 | daurn|afk | so |
| 15:08:34 | daurn|afk | how do i add another target? |
| 15:08:34 | daurn|afk | :S |
| 15:09:29 | whatboutbob | petur: likewise. dammit...this is irritating. |
| 15:10:20 | linuxstb | daurn|afk: Start with tools/configure. Then look at firmware/export/config.h and the config-???.h files in the same place. You'll need to create a new config-[targetname].h file and #include it from config.h |
| 15:10:56 | whatboutbob | LinusN: so if its a ground issue, do you suspect the remote tick during playack is related. So if I find a way to ground the main unit, both problems could be solved? (yeah...a lot of ifs in that sentence) |
| 15:11:27 | LinusN | the problem is that the analog and digital ground are connected on the ticking units |
| 15:12:20 | preglow | ingenious |
| 15:13:34 | LinusN | most likely a mistake, since there is still a resistance |
| 15:13:43 | daurn|afk | daurn|afk: care to help me? |
| 15:14:28 | LinusN | daurn|afk: new targets are preferrably added using the new target-tree structure |
| 15:14:45 | whatboutbob | crap. |
| 15:14:47 | daurn|afk | ? |
| 15:14:59 | whatboutbob | :( |
| 15:15:24 | LinusN | daurn|afk: which cpu is it? |
| 15:16:39 | daurn|afk | its an arm... |
| 15:16:40 | daurn|afk | one sec |
| 15:17:10 | daurn|afk | its one of them TI DM320 chips |
| 15:18:00 | LinusN | ok |
| 15:18:15 | LinusN | how far have you come with the port? |
| 15:19:20 | daurn|afk | i haven't done anything yet |
| 15:19:30 | daurn|afk | starting out now |
| 15:19:33 | daurn|afk | just got the source |
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| 15:24:49 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you also have a non-ticking unit? |
| 15:24:51 | markun | LinusN: is there documentation on how to use the target-tree structure or should I just look at the X5 stuff? |
| 15:25:48 | amiconn | *someone* was supposed to document traget tree ;) |
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| 15:28:50 | daurn|afk | well |
| 15:28:52 | daurn|afk | .. |
| 15:29:01 | daurn|afk | whats the easiest way to add a new target |
| 15:29:15 | LinusN | amiconn: i have only silent units, and a pcb from a ticking one |
| 15:29:31 | LinusN | daurn|afk: i suggest you start with the bootloader |
| 15:30:00 | daurn|afk | i want to be testing/deving rockbox through an exploit |
| 15:30:04 | LinusN | i'm sure you will have plenty of work just to compile and run anything on that target |
| 15:30:06 | daurn|afk | rather than as firmware |
| 15:30:35 | preglow | the target tree looks pretty simple to me |
| 15:31:28 | LinusN | it is |
| 15:32:08 | daurn|afk | could you tell me which device is closest to the gmini 402? |
| 15:32:16 | daurn|afk | (of ones already with rockbox) |
| 15:32:19 | LinusN | none, really |
| 15:32:20 | preglow | i don't think any device is very close to it |
| 15:32:27 | LinusN | but ipod has a arm cpu at least |
| 15:32:51 | daurn|afk | for other apps on it, i use arm-linux-nofpu-gcc |
| 15:32:55 | daurn|afk | if that helps |
| 15:33:20 | preglow | the current arm-elf-gcc we use will probably do nicely for gmini too |
| 15:33:50 | daurn|afk | ok |
| 15:34:27 | whatboutbob | bah...all three of my h1x0's have the same remote recording issue. |
| 15:34:58 | * | daurn|afk guesses cloest is gigabeat f |
| 15:36:01 | amiconn | LinusN: There might be in fact 2 different ticking issues, at least on H300 |
| 15:36:30 | LinusN | oh |
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| 15:38:35 | amiconn | My H1x0 does tick, but not very loud |
| 15:39:13 | amiconn | One problem seems to be the grounding, which causes the ticking that isn't fixable (only reducable) in software |
| 15:39:59 | amiconn | The other problem (on H300) is obviously bad shielding of the remote lcd /CS line, which is completely fixed by 'silencing' /CS |
| 15:40:50 | LinusN | i see |
| 15:40:54 | whatboutbob | amiconn: could part 2 possibly apply to H1x0? |
| 15:40:55 | LinusN | gotta go now |
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| 15:43:57 | preglow | whatboutbob: i don't think it did |
| 15:45:30 | daurn|afk | well |
| 15:45:32 | daurn|afk | no |
| 15:45:32 | daurn|afk | w |
| 15:45:39 | daurn|afk | how do i port rockbox |
| 15:45:39 | daurn|afk | :P |
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| 15:48:23 | Galois | daurn|afk: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
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| 15:49:05 | whatboutbob | i've just confirmed (unsurprisingly) the same remote recording interference exists in iriver f/w |
| 15:49:29 | daurn|afk | well |
| 15:49:41 | daurn|afk | theres is another project to get code on this |
| 15:49:52 | daurn|afk | which already has many addresses etc |
| 15:49:54 | daurn|afk | and an exploit |
| 15:50:23 | * | whatboutbob trundles off to bed, somewhat disheartened. |
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| 15:52:58 | daurn|afk | hmm |
| 15:53:02 | daurn|afk | i would upload to the wiki |
| 15:53:09 | daurn|afk | but i refuse to use my real name |
| 15:53:12 | daurn|afk | :S |
| 15:53:21 | petur | not again |
| 15:53:24 | preglow | congrats |
| 15:53:43 | Galois | I thought only CVS contributions required your real name? |
| 15:53:59 | petur | btw, don't upload exploits and stuff to the wiki, only legally acceptable stuff |
| 15:54:03 | preglow | it does |
| 15:54:13 | preglow | lots of fake names on the wiki |
| 15:54:16 | daurn|afk | exploits aren;t legal? |
| 15:54:22 | Galois | exploits are legal in most of europe, where rockbox is based |
| 15:54:23 | preglow | but if you want to become a contributor, that'll be another issue |
| 15:54:54 | daurn|afk | why would exploits not be legal? |
| 15:55:05 | Galois | DMCA, patriot act, etc. |
| 15:55:11 | petur | oh, are they. oh how nice |
| 15:55:16 | daurn|afk | thats usa only |
| 15:55:16 | daurn|afk | :S |
| 15:55:30 | daurn|afk | the rest of the world doesn't care - or in my case, approves |
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| 15:56:10 | daurn|afk | wow |
| 15:56:11 | daurn|afk | lol |
| 15:56:16 | daurn|afk | i just looked at users list |
| 15:56:20 | daurn|afk | and i can see people i know |
| 15:56:21 | daurn|afk | lol |
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| 16:05:56 | daurn|afk | ok |
| 16:05:58 | daurn|afk | made a profile |
| 16:06:33 | daurn|afk | how do i add pictures to a wiki entry? |
| 16:06:52 | petur | attach? |
| 16:07:01 | petur | there's a help function, you know |
| 16:07:31 | daurn|afk | there is? |
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| 16:10:17 | petur | sorry, it doesn't seem to contain help on images... edit a wpsgallery page to find out |
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| 16:12:25 | Jungti1234 | bye |
| 16:14:03 | daurn|afk | well |
| 16:14:06 | daurn|afk | i did |
| 16:14:07 | daurn|afk | it |
| 16:14:11 | daurn|afk | but, they are huge |
| 16:14:12 | daurn|afk | lol |
| 16:14:19 | daurn|afk | it needs an auto thumbnail thing |
| 16:14:29 | daurn|afk | have a look at this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/Gmini40xPort |
| 16:14:49 | petur | big it is :) |
| 16:15:11 | petur | nice to do list |
| 16:15:17 | daurn|afk | lol |
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| 16:15:51 | daurn|afk | i have tried scanning it |
| 16:15:55 | daurn|afk | but they are always out of focus |
| 16:16:00 | daurn|afk | and not worth uploading |
| 16:16:24 | markun | daurn|afk: perhaps better to add the images just as attachments instead of displaying them |
| 16:16:32 | petur | the pics aren't good enough to recognize all chips. maybe use the macro setting of the camera and try stong indirect lighting? |
| 16:16:37 | * | linuxstb was about to suggest the same thing as markun |
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| 16:17:11 | markun | daurn|afk: and why didn't you use your real name in the wiki? |
| 16:17:26 | daurn|afk | cause, NO ONE online gets to know... |
| 16:17:27 | daurn|afk | ever |
| 16:17:28 | daurn|afk | :P |
| 16:17:36 | daurn|afk | unless theres a meet |
| 16:17:44 | daurn|afk | where it sort of inadvertantly comes out |
| 16:17:55 | petur | daurn|afk: nevermind, it's motion blurr. don't drink so much :p |
| 16:18:31 | idiot^ | anyone here have a ipod |
| 16:18:33 | idiot^ | and use rockbox |
| 16:18:54 | daurn|afk | petur: with all the pics |
| 16:19:00 | daurn|afk | i think you can get every chip |
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| 16:19:32 | petur | not all no... bad lighting |
| 16:19:45 | daurn|afk | i did it at 3am |
| 16:19:49 | daurn|afk | after a party |
| 16:19:49 | daurn|afk | lol |
| 16:20:07 | petur | hey, I was right about the drinking :D |
| 16:20:24 | linuxstb | idiot^: Yes, there are ipod users here... |
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| 16:21:03 | daurn|afk | lol\ |
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| 16:21:18 | daurn|afk | :P |
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| 16:38:17 | Guest805 | Hello I need some urgent help concerning the uninstallation and reinstallation of rockbox.. is anyone here available that knows how? |
| 16:38:39 | petur | on what device? |
| 16:38:45 | Guest805 | iPod |
| 16:38:55 | Guest805 | I dont have the .bin backup of my original firmware because i just finished formatting my computer |
| 16:39:09 | Guest805 | so is it possible to use the iPod updater to do a restore |
| 16:39:15 | Guest805 | and format the ipod somehow? |
| 16:39:20 | petur | yes |
| 16:39:41 | markun | Why do you want to uninstall rockbox if you are going to reinstall it later anyway? |
| 16:40:07 | Guest805 | i screwed up and deleted all the skins and stuff |
| 16:40:13 | Guest805 | and im to lazy to redownload them all |
| 16:40:19 | Guest805 | :P |
| 16:40:36 | ashridah | so just unpack rockbox.zip over the top again |
| 16:40:57 | Guest805 | doesnt it need certain files tho? |
| 16:41:02 | Guest805 | like specially configured/ |
| 16:41:03 | Guest805 | ?* |
| 16:41:37 | ashridah | not really. most config stuff is kept in a sector before the first partition. |
| 16:41:38 | petur | just get a daily build and unzip |
| 16:41:54 | petur | (cvs builds don't contain the fonts) |
| 16:42:03 | Guest805 | kk |
| 16:42:12 | Guest805 | thx ! |
| 16:42:40 | markun | Aren't you too lazy to download that? |
| 16:42:57 | thegeek | hmm, when is 3.0 going to be released? |
| 16:43:17 | markun | thegeek: soon |
| 16:43:22 | petur | when it's ready |
| 16:43:39 | thegeek | hehe:P |
| 16:44:06 | Guest805 | is 3.0 going to have video for nano? |
| 16:44:12 | Guest805 | or iPod firmware in general |
| 16:44:13 | petur | no |
| 16:44:23 | Guest805 | man.. |
| 16:44:24 | Mikachu | 3.0 isn't even for ipods |
| 16:44:25 | Guest805 | hehe |
| 16:44:32 | Guest805 | i didnt kno |
| 16:45:39 | Guest805 | i dont check up on the site much anymore, my computer was formatted so i dont have my basics anymore (bookmarks i visit regularly) |
| 16:47:26 | Guest805 | well, thx alot every1, ur help is appreciated. and great work @ every1 who helped make RB. i have to go to work now so good bye all. |
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| 16:52:53 | amiconn | Hmpf. |
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| 16:52:57 | * | amiconn hates dilemmas |
| 16:53:07 | Mikachu | whereas everyone else can't get enough of them |
| 16:53:36 | amiconn | ..especially the dilemma named "release 3.0" |
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| 17:02:35 | * | petur is in the 'release must be bugfree' camp |
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| 17:14:30 | amiconn | petur: 'must be bugfree' will probably never happen. 'must be free of major bugs' is more like it |
| 17:14:40 | amiconn | Still, I don't see this happen any time soon |
| 17:14:49 | amiconn | That's the dilemma |
| 17:16:10 | amiconn | petur: Btw, there's a major bug happening when returning from the recording screen. The unit often hard freezes, either immediately, or when trying to access it via USB |
| 17:16:22 | amiconn | (voice enabled) |
| 17:17:24 | petur | will keep an eye open for it. I do have voice enabled but haven't had any freezing recently |
| 17:18:19 | amiconn | I had a freeze every time I wanted to check the test recording. Then I started roloing before usb. When leaving the recording screen and menu too fast, it freezes immediately (H1x0) |
| 17:19:55 | petur | weird. I've been switching a lot too lately but only suffered the 'no usb' problem |
| 17:20:09 | petur | which I'm sure isn't recording related |
| 17:20:35 | petur | maybe spdif related? |
| 17:21:26 | amiconn | Happens with analog recording as well |
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| 20:56:55 | {EDF}SS | how do you delete/clear the current playlist on an ipod nano 2gb? |
| 20:59:38 | Mikachu | if you want to make a new playlist, just stop playback and add some songs, the old one will be deleted |
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| 21:01:01 | {EDF}SS | thanks |
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| 21:06:17 | cadaveria | jauda |
| 21:06:29 | preglow | jasså |
| 21:06:35 | cadaveria | hehe |
| 21:07:05 | cadaveria | hmm...e d noe gøy prat her da? |
| 21:07:41 | merbanan | hela tiden |
| 21:07:41 | preglow | engelsk |
| 21:07:44 | preglow | haha |
| 21:07:48 | preglow | but yeah, english |
| 21:08:21 | cadaveria | alrighty then...its a teaparty?candlelight supper? |
| 21:09:21 | cadaveria | anyone`? |
| 21:09:58 | preglow | we can't be trusted with fire |
| 21:10:01 | preglow | or hot drinks |
| 21:10:24 | BHSPitMonkey | or vaguely sharp objects |
| 21:10:28 | preglow | usually we just sit around saying "ehehehehe" to each other |
| 21:10:50 | preglow | it gives a certain sense of community |
| 21:12:12 | BHSPitMonkey | I can respect that |
| 21:12:22 | BHSPitMonkey | what's the deal with 3.0... |
| 21:12:36 | cadaveria | hoho |
| 21:13:28 | Xinux | man |
| 21:13:32 | Xinux | im compressing 2gb of files |
| 21:13:35 | Xinux | this will take forever. |
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| 21:24:46 | preglow | BHSPitMonkey: what deal with it? |
| 21:25:23 | BHSPitMonkey | just noticing the topic says " Latest news: extended freezing period suggested" |
| 21:27:16 | preglow | ah, right |
| 21:27:22 | preglow | release is done when we deem it done |
| 21:27:30 | preglow | so you could call it extended |
| 21:27:36 | preglow | it's just an indefinite extension :> |
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| 21:36:15 | idiot^ | when uninstalling rockbox do you loose any of your applefirmware or files? songs, etc? |
| 21:36:20 | idiot^ | or does it just remove rockbox itself |
| 21:37:01 | BHSPitMonkey | just rockbox |
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| 21:37:05 | BHSPitMonkey | it's independent |
| 21:37:26 | BHSPitMonkey | idiot^: how do you plan on uninstalling? |
| 21:37:56 | idiot^ | from an uninstaller.. |
| 21:38:05 | idiot^ | I have an iPod 5g Video and uhh I installed it with this thing hold on |
| 21:38:10 | idiot^ | let me grab the link |
| 21:38:40 | BHSPitMonkey | you can just delete rockbox.ipod and .rockbox from your iPod if you don't want rockbox anymore... |
| 21:39:03 | idiot^ | Oh. |
| 21:39:15 | BHSPitMonkey | then you'll still have the rockbox bootloader, but it'll boot the apple firmware automatically (and it's just as fast as the original loader) |
| 21:39:16 | idiot^ | What about the firmware |
| 21:39:37 | BHSPitMonkey | so, it's just a matter of seeing that blue screen vs. the apple logo |
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| 21:41:45 | idiot^ | sorry i got disconnected, so all i have to do is delete those? |
| 21:41:49 | idiot^ | what about the firmware |
| 21:42:04 | BHSPitMonkey | then you'll still have the rockbox bootloader, but it'll boot the apple firmware automatically (and it's just as fast as the original loader) |
| 21:42:07 | BHSPitMonkey | so, it's just a matter of seeing that blue screen vs. the apple logo |
| 21:42:15 | Mikachu | the bootloader won't load apple if it doesn't find rockbox, rather it will say error -1 |
| 21:42:17 | idiot^ | k |
| 21:42:27 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu: since when? |
| 21:42:35 | BHSPitMonkey | it always fell back to apple for me |
| 21:42:38 | linuxstb | Mikachu: It should say "error -1" and then load the Apple firmware... |
| 21:42:41 | Mikachu | ah, okay |
| 21:42:43 | Mikachu | sorry |
| 21:42:49 | idiot^ | http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=8585 i used this to install rockbox, i can use it to uninstall but i want to know if it will delete my stuf |
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| 21:43:54 | BHSPitMonkey | ask the author, not us |
| 21:44:04 | BHSPitMonkey | "unofficial" is a key word |
| 21:44:14 | idiot^ | ook |
| 21:44:29 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm pretty certain it won't erase anything, though |
| 21:44:37 | linuxstb | idiot^: There is always a risk of it going wrong (I've no idea how big or small that risk is though), in which case you will probably have to restore (and lose your music). |
| 21:44:51 | BHSPitMonkey | it would have to format your FAT partition if it lose settings |
| 21:44:53 | linuxstb | The only risk-free option is the one BHSPitMonkey suggested. Just delete the rockbox.ipod file. |
| 21:44:58 | BHSPitMonkey | which would be ridiculous |
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| 21:59:39 | Mikachu | amiconn: good news, irssi is in google's summer of code, and one project suggestion is adding xterm mouse support ;) |
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| 22:12:43 | sharpe | goodday everyone |
| 22:14:49 | * | petur resumes recording tests |
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| 22:28:28 | petur | err... writing disk during recording takes the same time with or without boost. Why did I get the feeling it took longer :/ |
| 22:28:53 | Hansmaulwurf | petur: you saw the H100 interference thread? |
| 22:29:01 | Hansmaulwurf | with the remote |
| 22:29:06 | petur | yes |
| 22:29:39 | Hansmaulwurf | do you have an idea what this could cause? |
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| 22:30:16 | preglow | it does? |
| 22:30:22 | preglow | i thought amiconn said it was sped up by a ton |
| 22:30:22 | petur | bad hardware design by iriver |
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| 22:30:42 | Hansmaulwurf | hm ok |
| 22:30:50 | petur | bad shielding or grounding probably |
| 22:31:04 | Hansmaulwurf | i would bet its the grounding |
| 22:31:48 | Hansmaulwurf | dont think this has something to do with EMC |
| 22:31:55 | petur | whatboutbob is sending a spare remote to me, I may have a peek inside... |
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| 22:43:13 | petur | what's this thing with UDA1380 chips dying? |
| 22:43:58 | petur | I thought the headphone output had short-circuit protection |
| 22:44:48 | preglow | it does |
| 22:48:14 | petur | maybe we should do a bulk purchase of UDA's :) |
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| 22:49:07 | preglow | a lot of them have died? |
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| 22:49:34 | petur | I've read about three so far |
| 22:50:51 | petur | two caused the player to become very unresponsive |
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| 22:57:07 | * | amiconn more and more gets this annoying and persistent feeling that we'll never release 3.0 and the freeze will never end :-( |
| 22:57:33 | petur | summer is coming... |
| 22:57:46 | * | amiconn is unable to force himself intoo fixing even comparatively simple bug |
| 22:57:47 | amiconn | s |
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| 22:58:15 | pill | i starting to wonder if my ihp140 hdd is not dying |
| 22:58:29 | pill | rockbox takes more and more time tol start |
| 22:58:32 | pill | to* |
| 22:58:53 | pill | and when i put my ear to it, i hear little intermittent 'tak' sounds |
| 22:58:56 | pill | :( |
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| 22:59:06 | lostlogic | I've developed a disease named "Summer Activities" which has kept me out of rockbox coding for weeks... sorry :( |
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| 23:04:49 | Ribs | lostlogic: I hope you've been cured now... |
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| 23:06:05 | lostlogic | Ribs: so far it just seems to be getting worse as the weather gets nicer :-P |
| 23:06:27 | * | petur hands lostlogic some bad weather from Belgium |
| 23:06:37 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 23:06:39 | Ribs | yeah, something must be done about this |
| 23:06:44 | lostlogic | haha! |
| 23:06:55 | Ribs | lostlogic: let's swap homes |
| 23:07:01 | Ribs | you live in England for a bit |
| 23:07:10 | Ribs | and I'll enjoy the cute girls in low cut tops wherever you are ;) |
| 23:07:12 | Ribs | deal? |
| 23:07:50 | amiconn | meh |
| 23:08:01 | lostlogic | hehe |
| 23:08:04 | * | lostlogic lives in Chicago |
| 23:08:11 | Ribs | Chicago will do |
| 23:08:19 | * | amiconn isn't very susceptible to this summer activities thing |
| 23:08:19 | Ribs | I'm sure there are cute girls there |
| 23:08:24 | Ribs | I'm fed up with English girls anyway ;) |
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| 23:08:44 | lostlogic | haha, there are cute girls here, unfortunatley we also have the american phenominon of fat girls wearing not enough clothing. |
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| 23:08:50 | lostlogic | amiconn: no? |
| 23:09:42 | preglow | hahaha |
| 23:09:44 | amiconn | no |
| 23:09:44 | preglow | word |
| 23:09:50 | * | petur likes summer and winter |
| 23:09:51 | preglow | too cold here still |
| 23:09:56 | preglow | petur: agreed |
| 23:10:10 | XavierGr | it is hot as hell here |
| 23:10:14 | preglow | XavierGr: go figure |
| 23:10:17 | amiconn | I like when it is warm, but summer is also my preferred time for coding |
| 23:10:22 | XavierGr | I am happy that I have an aircondition |
| 23:10:38 | petur | amiconn: disk flushing times:with boosting 16 sec, withoit boosting 26 sec |
| 23:11:11 | petur | anything above 25 degrees celcius is too hot for me |
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| 23:12:01 | preglow | lostlogic: did you ever answer my question about the codec_pcmbuf_insert_split_callback chunk size thing? |
| 23:18:44 | preglow | lostlogic: if not: any reason it doesn't wait with dsp_process() until it's got room to fit the whole result into the pcmbuf? |
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| 23:22:14 | XavierGr | petur: Are you kidding me? It can easily reach 38 degrees C in Crete during summer! |
| 23:22:32 | XavierGr | and it is very rare to have tempratures below 10 C. |
| 23:22:43 | XavierGr | (the whole year) |
| 23:23:09 | petur | that may be the reason I only went once to Crete and have never returned |
| 23:23:23 | XavierGr | haha |
| 23:23:28 | amiconn | XavierGr: Please send some degrees over to germany... |
| 23:23:51 | XavierGr | petur: You didn't like Crete? When did you come here? |
| 23:23:57 | petur | and those b*st*rds only switched on the airco at 5pm |
| 23:24:36 | petur | XavierGr: sometimes I wonder about that myself |
| 23:24:44 | amiconn | Only 9 degrees C right now in Berlin |
| 23:25:01 | XavierGr | at least I live 10 minutes from the beach and have an aircondition so... |
| 23:25:15 | XavierGr | 9 degrees on June! OMG |
| 23:25:36 | amiconn | Yes, should be around 10 more... |
| 23:25:41 | petur | We also went to Portugal once and got hit by a heatwave.... |
| 23:25:44 | amiconn | (at this time of day) |
| 23:25:51 | XavierGr | ouch |
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| 23:26:11 | XavierGr | amiconn: so you need your coat to get out... |
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| 23:28:50 | petur | EEK |
| 23:29:13 | petur | I do hope these glitches I see now are from my pc |
| 23:29:24 | petur | as they happen with cvs version |
| 23:30:27 | amiconn | Also too much rain.. soI can't use my bicycle and have to use the car instead. It seems all the street repair firms in Berlin went berserk (in anticipation of this soccer world cup thing) |
| 23:31:45 | petur | rain has been ok here, every morning and evening it has been dry, so I didn't need the car :D |
| 23:31:47 | XavierGr | amiconn: I wish I would had that street repair activity in Crete. |
| 23:32:24 | XavierGr | Roads here (and generally infrastructure) suck big time. |
| 23:35:13 | * | petur gives up on unboosted recording and checks the buglist for an easy victim |
| 23:35:39 | amiconn | Yeah, surely all these repairs are necessay/ a good thing. But please, not all at the same time, creating big traffic jams... |
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| 23:36:51 | amiconn | petur: There are no easy victims... |
| 23:37:01 | petur | I know.... |
| 23:37:17 | amiconn | Btw, what's the problem with the recording? |
| 23:38:00 | petur | I didn't bring a signal generator home.... I'm seeing glitches everywhere :( |
| 23:38:18 | amiconn | huh? |
| 23:38:42 | petur | Maybe my pc sound output is playing tricks with me |
| 23:38:46 | amiconn | Did you change something more significant than in yesterday's patch? |
| 23:38:58 | petur | last test was with cvs version |
| 23:39:11 | petur | it must be my pc |
| 23:39:12 | amiconn | Well, I would avoid using a pc soundcard for such tests |
| 23:39:45 | amiconn | ...even if it is an expensive one (except if it's for optical spdif tests) |
| 23:39:46 | petur | oh.... I could burn a generated sine wave on a cd |
| 23:40:38 | amiconn | Use something that generates less electrical 'smog' than a pc, and place the test equipment a few meters away from the pc |
| 23:41:05 | amiconn | Preferably, both the source and the iriver should be powered from batteries only |
| 23:41:19 | petur | that I do (the iriver at least) |
| 23:41:51 | petur | I've got a discman (now with auto-resume switched off) that runs on batteries |
| 23:42:06 | petur | got a tool to generate a sine WAV file? |
| 23:42:16 | amiconn | I used audacity |
| 23:42:45 | petur | heh nice one |
| 23:42:55 | amiconn | Made a 10-minute file with a 1000Hz sine in the left channel, and a 750Hz sine in the right channel |
| 23:42:57 | petur | overlooked that menu entry |
| 23:43:30 | * | amiconn realised that he even has a 'signal generator' CD |
| 23:44:46 | petur | what amplitude do you use. 0dB may be too much I think |
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| 23:45:23 | amiconn | I used 0dB |
| 23:45:56 | aghaster | hi |
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