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| 00:01:09 | BioVorE | sharpe: I have notice it dose sometimes excute incorrect instruction (bad op code) The user interface could be a bit nicer. Its not bad though.. Mostly opinion related stuff. |
| 00:01:24 | BioVorE | would be nice to have color.. |
| 00:01:56 | sharpe | and where are you getting at that it executes an incorrect instruction? |
| 00:02:10 | BioVorE | sometime when I go into the configuration menu |
| 00:02:19 | BioVorE | I havn't nailed it down yet.. |
| 00:02:36 | BioVorE | only had it installed for less then an hour |
| 00:02:47 | BioVorE | Might look into building the filmware from source. |
| 00:03:08 | BioVorE | looks like you all have most of the crosscompiler stuff figured out.. |
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| 00:06:05 | sharpe | not quite seeing what you're getting at, but alright. |
| 00:06:58 | BioVorE | you know how to set rockbox to turn the screen off after 20 sec instead the 5 sec its doing now? |
| 00:08:12 | sharpe | general setting > display > lcd settings > backlight. |
| 00:08:41 | BioVorE | don't see that in the menu on my X5 |
| 00:08:53 | sharpe | which menu, do you see? |
| 00:09:10 | BioVorE | its playing a mp3... I hold down the center button.. |
| 00:09:23 | BioVorE | sound settings, Playlist.. etc |
| 00:09:44 | cStyle | I do not currently own an MP3 player. What is the best one to get that supports Rockbox? |
| 00:09:57 | dionoea | video ipod ? |
| 00:10:09 | sharpe | depends on what you want. |
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| 00:10:31 | BioVorE | looks like iriver,ipod,Iaudio X5 work well according to the wiki site |
| 00:10:33 | cStyle | i want about 20 gb or so of storage, and dont need video |
| 00:11:44 | BioVorE | 20GB IAudio X5 (biased oppinion :-P ) |
| 00:11:57 | ze | cStyle: a lot of people here seem rather fond of iriver h1x0 series (i.e. h120) |
| 00:12:05 | sharpe | aye. |
| 00:12:13 | sharpe | although i'm an ipod person myself... |
| 00:12:34 | sharpe | BioVorE: is there a menu button, or up button? |
| 00:12:51 | BioVorE | up and down change volume |
| 00:13:02 | sharpe | try pressing up |
| 00:13:03 | BioVorE | 5 way joystick on x5 |
| 00:13:21 | BioVorE | lleft and right go forward and back in playlist |
| 00:13:28 | BioVorE | hold down center pulls up menu |
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| 00:14:02 | BioVorE | found it.. |
| 00:14:09 | BioVorE | the record button brings up a menu |
| 00:14:19 | sharpe | and there you go. |
| 00:14:21 | BioVorE | weird button to put a menu on |
| 00:14:23 | BioVorE | :-P |
| 00:14:40 | BioVorE | Is there manual that explains this.. maybe I should read it :-P |
| 00:14:49 | sharpe | yes, yes there is.. |
| 00:15:17 | sharpe | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5-20060603.pdf |
| 00:15:17 | bluebrother | BioVorE: look on the daily build page. |
| 00:15:30 | BioVorE | rgr I see it.. downloading pdf now.. |
| 00:15:49 | bluebrother | the manuals are build daily and improve daily (well, not always ;-) |
| 00:16:44 | cStyle | ok, thanks for the suggestions |
| 00:22:24 | BioVorE | ok.. never mind what I said earlier.. reading the manual make me relized i didn't know what I was talking about :-P |
| 00:22:40 | BioVorE | themable rules.. |
| 00:22:48 | BioVorE | (theme) |
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| 00:47:19 | poolnoodl | hi all anyone else getting music pauses when playing bubbles? |
| 00:47:30 | sharpe | it happens |
| 00:48:15 | | Join agentorange719 [0] (n=Super@brai061246.halls.colostate.edu) |
| 00:49:13 | agentorange719 | i just installed rockbox on my ipod and it was working fine until this morning, when the music player decided to stop working |
| 00:49:34 | agentorange719 | does anyone know what could have happened? |
| 00:49:41 | sharpe | it just stopped? |
| 00:50:04 | agentorange719 | everything else works, but the music in my music folder wont even show up |
| 00:50:27 | sharpe | did you happen to change shown files? |
| 00:50:28 | poolnoodl | is it there when you plug it into your computer? |
| 00:50:35 | agentorange719 | yeah |
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| 00:51:28 | agentorange719 | i havnt changed anything, after it stopped working, i deleted rockbox off and put it back on, but nothing happened |
| 00:51:34 | agentorange719 | it still didnt work |
| 00:51:39 | sharpe | i'm taking a stab in the dark, you use the filebrowser, and not tagcache right? |
| 00:51:49 | agentorange719 | i tried both |
| 00:52:32 | agentorange719 | i m not sure what is going on with it at the moment so if one or the other has a possibility of working, im all ears |
| 00:54:15 | poolnoodl | i bet you have change the show files to something other than all or music |
| 00:55:19 | agentorange719 | where would i change that back |
| 00:56:38 | poolnoodl | hold menu for 2 seconds |
| 00:57:00 | poolnoodl | the screen should totally change |
| 00:57:14 | poolnoodl | then hit down to scroll through the choices |
| 00:58:01 | poolnoodl | menu to get back out |
| 00:59:06 | poolnoodl | any one else get pauses in music when playing bubbles? |
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| 01:00:59 | agentorange719 | i found them, thank you, i appreciate it, the other thing im kinda worried about is that when i first installed rockbox, there was a file in the root directory called rockbox which has since disappeared on the ipod file browser, should i worry about this |
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| 01:07:17 | poolnoodl | nope |
| 01:07:38 | poolnoodl | as long as it's there on your computer |
| 01:07:55 | poolnoodl | do you have a video ipod agentorange? |
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| 01:18:22 | agentorange719 | this is a shot in the dark, but dies anyone know where i could get an opensource real media converter |
| 01:20:24 | agentorange719 | i actually have an ipod mini |
| 01:20:47 | sharpe | i don't know why, but i have the need to see if i can get the crosscompiler working with mingw. |
| 01:21:32 | petur | agentorange719: I think there exists something like Real Alternative that maybe can convert files... |
| 01:22:48 | agentorange719 | does it, i have real alternative, but i thought it was basically a codec |
| 01:23:13 | petur | well I'm not sure.... |
| 01:23:24 | agentorange719 | ill check |
| 01:24:06 | petur | check this: http://ozzmosis.sensationcontent.com/realaudio.html |
| 01:24:59 | petur | use real alternative to create a wav, encode it to whatever you like |
| 01:26:13 | petur | and here's another one: http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_6_226_18106.html |
| 01:26:27 | * | petur thinks google is great ;) |
| 01:26:35 | sharpe | yay google! |
| 01:26:40 | petur | http://www.hlrnet.com/freemm.htm |
| 01:27:17 | agentorange719 | thank you |
| 01:27:23 | * | petur closes the browser with google before he fills the channel with links |
| 01:27:54 | sharpe | how can we ever deny the greatness of google's links? haha.... |
| 01:28:20 | BHSPitMonkey | petur: could have just pasted the results page link ;) |
| 01:28:32 | petur | sure |
| 01:28:39 | sharpe | but then it looks like you're lazy. |
| 01:29:00 | petur | which I am :D |
| 01:29:24 | BHSPitMonkey | sharpe: I don't see YOU getting anything productive done. |
| 01:29:27 | * | BHSPitMonkey pets petur |
| 01:29:41 | BHSPitMonkey | good boy. |
| 01:29:42 | sharpe | hey, i'm building the cross-compiler for mingw, so just shut it. :D |
| 01:29:50 | BHSPitMonkey | nice. |
| 01:30:08 | sharpe | actually binutils right now... |
| 01:30:10 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm putting Dave Chappelle on my iPod :P |
| 01:30:18 | BHSPitMonkey | equally productive |
| 01:32:13 | sharpe | indeed. |
| 01:32:39 | sharpe | hah, something failed to build in binutils, lets pretend it didn't... |
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| 01:33:32 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 01:33:46 | sharpe | g'evening |
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| 01:35:02 | petur | hahaha, for those with low-capacity-players: http://www.thesto.com/surprisemyportable/index.html |
| 01:35:31 | sharpe | heh... |
| 01:35:54 | ritalin | hello |
| 01:36:06 | ritalin | <−−-getting ready to install rockbox for 1st time |
| 01:36:30 | petur | I once did a shuffle-all on my collection, it drove me mad: mixing classical music with punkrock just doesn't work |
| 01:38:41 | BHSPitMonkey | yep |
| 01:39:09 | BHSPitMonkey | although that's not what bothered me, what bothered me are a couple of video game soundtracks interrupting real music half the time... |
| 01:39:44 | sharpe | hrm... |
| 01:40:12 | sharpe | lets just pretend i never tried the crosscompiler with mingw. |
| 01:40:18 | JdGordon | well depends on which video game soundtracks u have in there... red alert music goes well with my music collentcino |
| 01:42:39 | BHSPitMonkey | well, not nintendo64 MIDI-sounding music :/ |
| 01:42:53 | JdGordon | haha |
| 01:43:09 | BHSPitMonkey | BOSS BATTLE from zelda doesn't quite fit after moonlight sonata |
| 01:43:35 | BHSPitMonkey | there should be a Shuffle Exclusion flag in iTunes |
| 01:43:52 | * | BHSPitMonkey regrets making an iTunes suggestion in #rockbox |
| 01:44:07 | * | sharpe shuns BHSPitMonkey. |
| 01:44:11 | BHSPitMonkey | ouch |
| 01:45:46 | sharpe | i still can't decide for a gift, music, or a season dvd set? |
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| 01:48:00 | BHSPitMonkey | sharpe: a gift to give, or to recieve? :) |
| 01:48:04 | sharpe | give |
| 01:48:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:48:36 | BHSPitMonkey | ... then go with cash/giftcard |
| 01:48:46 | sharpe | ... |
| 01:48:51 | sharpe | i don't wanna? |
| 01:48:54 | BHSPitMonkey | :P |
| 01:48:59 | sharpe | :D |
| 01:49:05 | sharpe | gift for a friend i haven't seen since last year |
| 01:49:16 | BHSPitMonkey | is one of your requirements "must be obtainable from piratebay.org" or something? |
| 01:49:20 | BHSPitMonkey | :) |
| 01:49:27 | sharpe | nope... i'm going to buy it... |
| 01:49:45 | BHSPitMonkey | make a mix cd |
| 01:49:51 | BHSPitMonkey | it's more thoughtful than a regular cd |
| 01:49:56 | sharpe | the only problem is, with the dvds, the fourth part of the season dvd isn't out yet. |
| 01:50:10 | JdGordon | which series? |
| 01:50:14 | sharpe | avatar :) |
| 01:50:20 | JdGordon | avatar? |
| 01:50:25 | BHSPitMonkey | avater? |
| 01:50:26 | sharpe | aye. cartoon. |
| 01:50:38 | BHSPitMonkey | what happened with my vowels there, I wonder... |
| 01:50:54 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 01:51:14 | JdGordon | when the hell is scrubs season 4 coming to dvd in oz?? |
| 01:52:29 | sharpe | according to amazon, never, as it isn't listed. |
| 01:52:48 | BHSPitMonkey | so amazon has written it |
| 01:52:51 | BHSPitMonkey | so it shall be done. |
| 01:53:09 | sharpe | the widely overlooked eleventh commandment. |
| 01:55:34 | sharpe | so... |
| 01:55:50 | sharpe | what plugin should sharpe attempt to make next? |
| 01:56:04 | JdGordon | what happened to the c64 emulator? |
| 01:56:16 | sharpe | er, nothing really. |
| 01:56:51 | BHSPitMonkey | it remembered the current year is 2006, so it went away. |
| 01:57:09 | BHSPitMonkey | someone port a wine plugin! |
| 01:57:10 | sharpe | it can only come back in years that are divisible by 64. |
| 01:57:44 | JdGordon | wine? |
| 01:57:57 | JdGordon | as in linux windows emu? |
| 01:58:13 | sharpe | no, as in a liquid based plugin. :D |
| 01:58:16 | BHSPitMonkey | as in, wine is not an emulator :P |
| 01:58:42 | sharpe | i thought about an x86 emulator for a few minutes |
| 01:58:44 | BHSPitMonkey | actually, that seems more of an iPodLinux dream than a rockbox one |
| 01:58:58 | ritalin | http://pastebin.com/756735 |
| 01:58:59 | BHSPitMonkey | sharpe: took you that long to reach the conclusion? :P |
| 01:59:05 | ritalin | thats the output from my fdisk -l |
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| 01:59:18 | sharpe | where did you come from?! |
| 01:59:23 | ritalin | sandman# dd if=/dev/da4s1 of=bootpartition.bin |
| 01:59:24 | ritalin | dd: /dev/da4s1: No such file or directory |
| 01:59:34 | * | ritalin doesnt get it |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:11 | ritalin | and im on freebsd is you were wondering about funky naming |
| 02:00:29 | JdGordon | u dont have dd installed.. |
| 02:00:40 | ritalin | its in base i though |
| 02:00:52 | JdGordon | aparently not.. |
| 02:00:55 | ritalin | it is |
| 02:00:56 | ritalin | sandman# dd if=/dev/da4 of=mbr.bin count=1 |
| 02:00:56 | ritalin | 1+0 records in |
| 02:00:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK ritalin |
| 02:00:56 | ritalin | 1+0 records out |
| 02:00:56 | ritalin | 512 bytes transferred in 1.478298 secs (346 bytes/sec) |
| 02:00:59 | ritalin | cause i did that |
| 02:01:16 | JdGordon | oh.. ok |
| 02:01:26 | JdGordon | /dev/da4s1 is wrong |
| 02:01:37 | BHSPitMonkey | so /dev/da4s1 is the one that doesn't exist |
| 02:01:50 | ritalin | so |
| 02:01:53 | ritalin | do 2? |
| 02:02:26 | BHSPitMonkey | what happens when you do ls /dev/da4* |
| 02:02:47 | ritalin | sandman# ls /dev/da4* |
| 02:02:48 | ritalin | /dev/da4/dev/da4s2 |
| 02:02:51 | ritalin | o |
| 02:02:55 | ritalin | yeah your right |
| 02:03:33 | ritalin | dd if=/dev/da4 of=bootpartition.bin |
| 02:03:37 | ritalin | that would be correct? |
| 02:03:46 | BHSPitMonkey | hmm |
| 02:04:03 | BHSPitMonkey | that should output the entire drive, though |
| 02:04:16 | JdGordon | no, isnt that hte mbr or something |
| 02:04:30 | BHSPitMonkey | perhaps you need to use the bs= modifier for as long as the first partition goes |
| 02:04:35 | JdGordon | damn my farts stink this morning.. |
| 02:04:37 | BHSPitMonkey | JdGordon: not if BSD is like linux at all |
| 02:04:57 | ritalin | its not on alot of things ive been finding out :/ |
| 02:05:07 | BHSPitMonkey | so switch to linux :) |
| 02:05:11 | ritalin | no way |
| 02:05:13 | ritalin | fbsd rocks |
| 02:05:21 | BHSPitMonkey | as does linux... |
| 02:05:24 | ritalin | true |
| 02:05:28 | ritalin | but fbsd does more :P |
| 02:05:31 | BHSPitMonkey | penguins over daemons! |
| 02:05:35 | ritalin | nein! |
| 02:05:37 | BHSPitMonkey | lies! |
| 02:05:37 | ritalin | ok |
| 02:05:40 | ritalin | i have windows |
| 02:05:45 | ritalin | maybe i should try installer |
| 02:05:49 | BHSPitMonkey | maybe. |
| 02:05:57 | sharpe | maybe... |
| 02:06:25 | BHSPitMonkey | the problem is, bsd isn't making a /dev device for that first partition (because it shows up as just unpartitioned space) |
| 02:06:26 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:06:26 | * | ritalin wants to listen to his Wagner WavPacks :( |
| 02:06:31 | JdGordon | any1 here with admin permissions on flyspray? |
| 02:06:41 | petur | for? |
| 02:06:43 | BHSPitMonkey | linux would show a device file for it... |
| 02:06:50 | ritalin | lol |
| 02:07:04 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5489 <- marked as a bug not patch |
| 02:07:18 | ritalin | and if i install on windows i can use it on freebsd? |
| 02:07:26 | ritalin | its same version of rockbox? |
| 02:07:49 | petur | JdGordon: done |
| 02:07:53 | JdGordon | :) |
| 02:08:08 | ritalin | herroooooooo |
| 02:08:25 | BHSPitMonkey | ritalin: yes, it's no different. |
| 02:08:47 | ritalin | kk |
| 02:08:48 | ritalin | <3 |
| 02:08:49 | ritalin | ty |
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| 02:29:27 | moda|ASOT | sigh |
| 02:29:47 | moda|ASOT | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=42689 ? |
| 02:29:48 | moda|ASOT | ] |
| 02:30:23 | JdGordon | moda|ASOT: saw a 30g ipod video for $320 if your after a decent priced hdd? |
| 02:31:18 | moda|ASOT | nah... |
| 02:31:28 | moda|ASOT | if it turns out i can rma it with rockbox on.... umm...yea |
| 02:31:55 | JdGordon | if its dead enough that they cant turn it on then they shouldnt have a problem with the rma... |
| 02:32:08 | moda|ASOT | heh |
| 02:32:15 | JdGordon | cept i heard they will just send u a h10 instead coz they dont sell h340's anymore |
| 02:32:20 | moda|ASOT | it still turns on, comes up with rockbox..... |
| 02:32:39 | moda|ASOT | JdGordon: nah, i rmad it back in december and they gave me a h340 |
| 02:32:46 | moda|ASOT | but, that was 6 months ago |
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| 02:40:30 | moda|ASOT | hrm :| |
| 02:40:58 | moda|ASOT | so how much would a dead h340 with all the accessories and a silicone case be worth? |
| 02:41:01 | moda|ASOT | :p |
| 02:41:29 | JdGordon | duno.. but id buy your usb-otg cable and remote if your selling |
| 02:41:37 | moda|ASOT | :p |
| 02:42:10 | moda|ASOT | just wondering if its worth stuffing around with it to try and get it fixed, or just sell it and buy an ipod video / gigabeat s |
| 02:42:34 | JdGordon | whats the problem with it? |
| 02:42:48 | moda|ASOT | i think the hdd is dead, it wont detect |
| 02:43:40 | JdGordon | got any firends with ipods that will le u open it up? |
| 02:43:50 | moda|ASOT | nope |
| 02:44:14 | JdGordon | buy one of these http://www.addonics.com/products/io/aaedt18IDE25.asp |
| 02:45:06 | moda|ASOT | i wish i could source one locally |
| 02:46:19 | Kohlrabi | you can exchange the HD |
| 02:46:33 | Kohlrabi | if it's really the hd, that is |
| 02:46:42 | moda|ASOT | how so Kohlrabi? |
| 02:46:55 | Kohlrabi | well, I just read it somewhere |
| 02:46:59 | JdGordon | ask on ocau if there is some1 willing to help u out... im sure there would be |
| 02:47:07 | moda|ASOT | ive already asked, noone |
| 02:47:14 | Kohlrabi | I try to dig it up |
| 02:47:16 | JdGordon | damn |
| 02:47:29 | moda|ASOT | well, noone who has a dead ipod/1.8inch drive anyway |
| 02:47:41 | Kohlrabi | misticriver should know :) |
| 02:47:48 | Kohlrabi | hm? |
| 02:48:01 | JdGordon | see if any1 has an ipod out of warrenty and doesnt mind having it opened to check if your hdd is dead |
| 02:49:06 | Kohlrabi | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=9308 |
| 02:49:08 | moda|ASOT | theres a guy in melbourne whos opened his h340 and put in another battery that said if i cant find anyone he will have a look |
| 02:49:18 | Kohlrabi | look at this thread |
| 02:49:22 | Kohlrabi | about replacing HD |
| 02:49:38 | moda|ASOT | Kohlrabi: i know, but 40gb hdds are extremely expensive |
| 02:49:48 | JdGordon | ye, ive opened mine a frew times, if u run out of options send it down and ill check it out if u want |
| 02:49:50 | Kohlrabi | um |
| 02:49:55 | Kohlrabi | OK, that's a point |
| 02:50:05 | Kohlrabi | Maybe put 20gb in |
| 02:50:11 | Kohlrabi | *cough* |
| 02:50:49 | moda|ASOT | hrm |
| 02:51:09 | moda|ASOT | who are you on ocau JdGordon? |
| 02:51:25 | JdGordon | SaTaN |
| 02:51:28 | moda|ASOT | ahh |
| 02:52:07 | JdGordon | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/USB-2-0-External-Hard-Drive-Case-for-Toshiba-1-8-HDD_W0QQitemZ6886338178QQcategoryZ31567QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 02:52:37 | moda|ASOT | hrm |
| 02:53:14 | moda|ASOT | ahh hell with it, ill just get one of those... to atleast check that its the hdd or not |
| 02:53:14 | JdGordon | that will let u know if the disk or player is dead... if its the disk then rma it, if its the player u got a nice big external hdd and go buy an ipod.. |
| 02:53:32 | moda|ASOT | true eh |
| 02:54:00 | moda|ASOT | if its the disk, then i still need to source another on to flash it to the original firmware and then rma it :p |
| 02:54:30 | JdGordon | no u dont.. if its the disk they wont be able to know uve got rb on it.. |
| 02:54:37 | JdGordon | how far can u boot? |
| 02:55:33 | moda|ASOT | it starts rockbox bootloader, gets to the part where it starts loading it from the hdd and then just comes up with an error saying ata11 error... please press a button and insert a usb cable |
| 02:55:47 | moda|ASOT | its still noticably the rockbox bootloader |
| 02:55:49 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 02:56:05 | JdGordon | damn :p |
| 02:56:08 | moda|ASOT | yea |
| 02:59:06 | moda|ASOT | hrm... what a crazy name |
| 02:59:12 | JdGordon | im off.. if u cant fnd any1 closer to help u out just lemme know |
| 02:59:19 | JdGordon | which name? |
| 02:59:51 | moda|ASOT | the guy who runs that ebay store :p |
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| 03:07:34 | moda|ASOT | sigh |
| 03:13:30 | BioVorE | anyone know how the %pb thing suppose to work in wps' ? |
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| 03:27:11 | ts-x | BioVorE: Sure, what's your question (about the %pb)... |
| 03:30:13 | BioVorE | I want to put a progress bar at 100x0 |
| 03:30:31 | BioVorE | %pb 0|0|100|0 |
| 03:30:32 | BioVorE | ? |
| 03:30:55 | BioVorE | tryed a bunch of thing.. but dosn't seem to work as discribed in the documentation |
| 03:31:35 | BioVorE | (using a Iaudio X5) |
| 03:31:49 | JdGordon | %pb uses the whole line |
| 03:31:56 | JdGordon | so u just put %pb where u want it |
| 03:32:00 | JdGordon | nothing else on the line |
| 03:32:05 | ts-x | Well you're specifying a progress bar height of -0-, that's not good |
| 03:32:13 | ts-x | %pd can be sized as well |
| 03:32:18 | ts-x | or %pb |
| 03:32:25 | BioVorE | well I have a pb.bmp graphic |
| 03:32:27 | * | JdGordon runs away |
| 03:32:42 | BioVorE | I want it 28 pix from the bottom of the screen |
| 03:32:51 | BioVorE | the bmp is the full width of the screen |
| 03:32:59 | BioVorE | (160x128 on iaudio x5) |
| 03:33:20 | ts-x | Ahhhhh - you can't specifiy coordinate specific locations, only line specific |
| 03:33:33 | BioVorE | oh |
| 03:33:52 | BioVorE | whats the hight,leftpos,rightpos do thing? |
| 03:33:54 | BioVorE | (then |
| 03:34:24 | ts-x | They allow you to create a sized pb, e.g. half the line etc. |
| 03:34:40 | BioVorE | ok |
| 03:35:08 | BioVorE | now I have to figure out how to put this pb at the bottom of the screen.. it stuck to the top atm |
| 03:35:20 | ts-x | You'll want to put the %pb tag in the last visible line of your wps |
| 03:35:34 | BioVorE | ok I'll try that |
| 03:35:36 | ts-x | The line you specify is the actual line it will appear on |
| 03:35:56 | ts-x | Kind of tricky because depending on your font it could be a different line |
| 03:35:57 | BioVorE | can you have empty lines to give some space? (if so whats the flag for that?) |
| 03:36:01 | ts-x | Yes |
| 03:36:08 | ts-x | Just a blank line... |
| 03:36:21 | BioVorE | ok simple enough.. I'll give it a shot and see what happens |
| 03:36:42 | ts-x | Good luck - it's really quite cool what you can do with the wps code once you've mastered it |
| 03:37:29 | ts-x | If you haven't seen it already => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5 |
| 03:37:54 | BioVorE | Just install this stuff today on my IAudio |
| 03:38:06 | BioVorE | so just figuring out your all's methods |
| 03:38:21 | BioVorE | very cool system though.. :-) |
| 03:38:31 | ts-x | This is also very helpful => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 03:38:44 | BioVorE | ^ thats the one I am looking at now. |
| 03:40:03 | ts-x | Looking at the wps code behind the wps' in the gallery can be quite helpful too |
| 03:40:23 | BioVorE | that what I kinda doing.. |
| 03:42:14 | BioVorE | ok it worked.. I am very close now.. |
| 03:42:21 | BioVorE | thanks |
| 03:43:09 | ts-x | Great...actually in looking at the wps wiki, it looks like it is missing info about transparent images |
| 03:43:13 | * | ts-x goes to fix |
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| 03:56:54 | BioVorE | anyone know if there planes to get mpeg4 video working on IAudio X5? |
| 03:56:59 | BioVorE | (plans) |
| 03:57:34 | ts-x | I'm sure it will come eventually, but doesn't seem to be a priority right now |
| 03:59:40 | BioVorE | rgr, the only thing is probably worth it is the video ipod |
| 03:59:49 | BioVorE | I audio screen is too low res |
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| 04:00:40 | ts-x | The iAudio firmware supports some sort of video playback right? |
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| 04:00:58 | BioVorE | yeah.. mpeg4 15fps (FFMPEG) |
| 04:01:41 | * | ts-x doesn't have an iAudio |
| 04:04:15 | BioVorE | 1 thing I can say is the the rockbox defenilty is alot faster then the iaudio's native filmware |
| 04:04:27 | BioVorE | when changing songs |
| 04:04:53 | ts-x | Same for iRiver...the iRiver default firmware was sloooooooow |
| 04:05:20 | BioVorE | the iaudio filmware freeks when changing from ogg/mp3 to flac.. and dosn't like mp4 very well (cant skip forward in the song) |
| 04:05:46 | BioVorE | but seems to very smooth on here. |
| 04:05:54 | BioVorE | with rockbox |
| 04:06:15 | ts-x | Scrolling through directories in the stock iRiver firmware was almost unbearably slow - yes Rockbox is night and day better |
| 04:06:47 | BioVorE | I like it too because the source code for the OS if avalible if I get ambisious |
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| 04:14:32 | moda|ASOT | sighj |
| 04:15:29 | ts-x | Hey does anyone else who's around know which BMP formats the grayscale screens support? I'm pretty sure some of them support multi-shade grayscale images. I'm trying to update the wps wiki... |
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| 04:16:05 | Falco98 | good question... |
| 04:16:41 | Falco98 | as far as i've been led to believe the H1X0's support 2-bit color only, though i'd like someone to prove that wrong :-P |
| 04:19:08 | ts-x | They support 1-bit as well. 2-bit is four level grayscale right? |
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| 04:24:30 | ts-x | Well if someone more knowledgable in the BMP arena reads the logs, please update the table here => http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS ;) |
| 04:25:45 | Falco98 | hm. i thought 2-bit was 2-color |
| 04:25:55 | Falco98 | oh. wait. |
| 04:26:00 | Falco98 | my bad :) |
| 04:26:01 | ts-x | Google tells me it's 4 :) |
| 04:26:11 | Falco98 | yeah i just did the math more carefully in my head. |
| 04:26:28 | Falco98 | i was getting 1-bit and 2-bit confused (since 1-bit is "2 possibility") |
| 04:26:51 | ts-x | I think 2-bit is what some of the grayscales support, but I'm not sure which ones |
| 04:27:07 | Falco98 | well i hope you're right and i hope someone figures it out :-P |
| 04:28:51 | ts-x | More complete wiki = fewer forum/IRC questions :) |
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| 04:33:15 | Falco98 | man i wish 3.0 would hurry up and come out :-P |
| 04:33:20 | * | Falco98 ducks quickly..... |
| 04:34:18 | Falco98 | just i'm tired of having to manually patch-in the nice little patches JdGordon and I wrote whenever i update.. and they stand a good chance of getting into source, but only after the freeze ends... |
| 04:35:14 | JdGordon | hehe |
| 04:35:40 | Aghaster | hi Falco98 |
| 04:35:42 | Aghaster | how are you? |
| 04:35:53 | Falco98 | hey |
| 04:35:55 | Falco98 | not bad.. you? |
| 04:35:59 | Aghaster | i'm fine |
| 04:38:08 | Aghaster | Falco, do you think anti-aliasing fonts will ever be implemented in rockbox? |
| 04:38:14 | Aghaster | that would be a nice feature, i think |
| 04:38:22 | Aghaster | it would help to make it more attractive to the eye |
| 04:38:38 | Mikachu | ever is a long time |
| 04:38:49 | Falco98 | it would requre grayscale, in the case of the B&W models |
| 04:39:14 | Falco98 | but for the 2-bit-shaded and higher-color models, wouldn't it simply take multi-colored fonts? |
| 04:39:29 | Aghaster | yeah, well, i think we would need to keep the current font system for people who would be better off the 2 colors fonts |
| 04:39:46 | Aghaster | hum... yeah |
| 04:39:51 | Aghaster | multi-colored fonts |
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| 04:40:07 | BioVorE | ^ that would probably be cool |
| 04:40:08 | Falco98 | well as with most other stuff that's model-specific, wouldn't it be not-too-hard (even if time consuming) to diverge the font sets? |
| 04:40:14 | Aghaster | but what if we wanna put colors in background that aren't plain? |
| 04:40:32 | thePianoMan | sounds like you'd need alpha-blending |
| 04:40:38 | Aghaster | I mean, in the end we would end up with something that could be made to be as good looking as the apple firmware |
| 04:40:39 | Falco98 | plus, concievably, one could make a multi-colored font that looks anti-aliased on a multicolor display, but B&W on a B&W display |
| 04:40:56 | Falco98 | (though that would take very careful planning in the development stage i guess) |
| 04:41:09 | Aghaster | :/ |
| 04:41:15 | Aghaster | Well, its just a feature i'd like to see |
| 04:41:28 | Aghaster | there was a request for that by someone else, but i'd like that too |
| 04:41:36 | Falco98 | thePianoMan: yeah you're probably right, accounting for colored backgrounds and stuff |
| 04:42:56 | Aghaster | if we can get anti-aliased fonts with alpha-blending, we could then make skins for the browsing menu |
| 04:43:06 | Aghaster | and make something that looks like apple's original firmware |
| 04:43:30 | thePianoMan | why would we want something that looks like apple's original firmware? |
| 04:43:46 | Aghaster | not like apple's firmware, but something that can be far more good looking |
| 04:43:52 | thePianoMan | granted |
| 04:44:29 | Aghaster | i think more people would be using rockbox if it had the ability to be more of an eye-candy |
| 04:44:56 | Aghaster | "normal people" say the interface is ugly |
| 04:45:23 | BHSPitMonkey | I've made a PNG-based font replica of the original font, if it matters.. |
| 04:45:28 | BHSPitMonkey | Podium Sans |
| 04:45:34 | BioVorE | lolz |
| 04:45:46 | Aghaster | original font of apple's firmware? |
| 04:46:02 | BHSPitMonkey | also, you can get .ttf's from the 5G's rsrc partition (but they're abnormal, I dunno how to use them) |
| 04:46:08 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah, Aghaster |
| 04:46:11 | BHSPitMonkey | it's for iPL |
| 04:46:13 | Aghaster | ok |
| 04:46:47 | Aghaster | can we install ipodlinux, rockbox and the original firmware at the same time? |
| 04:47:12 | Mikachu | i wonder how slow it would really be, only a few of the pixels would actually have an alpha value that isn't full or empty |
| 04:47:22 | Mikachu | yes |
| 04:50:07 | Aghaster | k |
| 04:50:50 | Falco98 | whoops, wandered off. what'd i miss |
| 04:51:29 | Falco98 | normal people say the interface is ugly, huh? |
| 04:51:33 | Falco98 | i LOVE iamp... |
| 04:51:44 | Falco98 | (i only had to make some minor adjustments to make it non-irritating) |
| 04:52:16 | Aghaster | i mean, the player can be nice looking with a theme |
| 04:52:21 | Aghaster | but the browsing interface |
| 04:52:28 | moda|ASOT | pffft iamp... greenv1.2 was the best wps |
| 04:52:40 | Aghaster | you can't skin it or anything, all you can do is change font and change background/foreground color |
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| 04:55:24 | moda|ASOT | g0t bored? |
| 04:56:04 | ts-x | Aghaster: you can also create a menu backdrop |
| 04:56:54 | ts-x | With the right font and a decent backdrop it looks pretty nice |
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| 05:01:09 | Falco98 | well i don't really care about the look of the menus/etc as long as the WPS is readable and reasonably nice-looking |
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| 06:06:24 | Xinux | spank that. |
| 06:07:16 | Aghaster | hum? |
| 06:07:59 | Aghaster | overwrite = surskribi? |
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| 06:11:32 | Aghaster | saluton vulturejoe |
| 06:11:34 | Aghaster | kiel vi fartas? |
| 06:11:38 | vulturejoe | hi |
| 06:11:44 | Aghaster | hi |
| 06:11:49 | Aghaster | do you speak Esperanto? |
| 06:12:09 | vulturejoe | tiny bit, can't remember it really |
| 06:12:13 | Aghaster | ok |
| 06:12:28 | Aghaster | www.kurso.com.br is good free software to learn esperanto, it might be useful for you |
| 06:12:41 | vulturejoe | i used lernu.net or something |
| 06:12:51 | Aghaster | yeah, lernu.net still exists |
| 06:13:33 | vulturejoe | anyway, i ran into a bit of a problem while installing rockbox, everything installed smoothly, bootloader loads, but I get stuck on the Rockbox loading screen |
| 06:13:42 | vulturejoe | original firmware still works |
| 06:14:03 | Aghaster | oops |
| 06:14:05 | Aghaster | wrong chan! |
| 06:14:15 | Aghaster | what were the chances you know a bit about esperanto o.O ? |
| 06:14:22 | Aghaster | XD |
| 06:14:29 | vulturejoe | heh |
| 06:15:12 | vulturejoe | so, can anyone here help me with the above problem? |
| 06:15:39 | vulturejoe | i'm using an ipod mini 1st generation |
| 06:15:39 | Aghaster | hum |
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| 06:15:43 | Aghaster | i once had that problem |
| 06:15:50 | Aghaster | it turned out i was using an old version |
| 06:15:59 | Aghaster | so i redownload and reinstalled latest daily build |
| 06:16:05 | Aghaster | and it worked fine |
| 06:16:13 | vulturejoe | k, lemme double check my version |
| 06:18:58 | vulturejoe | no, i'm running the latest daily build. gonna try an older build |
| 06:19:11 | Aghaster | hum |
| 06:19:13 | Aghaster | strange |
| 06:21:57 | vulturejoe | yup, that fixed it |
| 06:22:13 | Aghaster | great |
| 06:22:36 | Aghaster | btw, i'm currently working on the Esperanto translation |
| 06:22:40 | vulturejoe | i'll mess around with different versions later |
| 06:22:43 | vulturejoe | cool |
| 06:23:50 | Aghaster | i'm around the half of it |
| 06:24:25 | Aghaster | i'm gonne be the first one with an ipod in esperanto in the world ;) |
| 06:24:28 | Aghaster | gonna* |
| 06:27:28 | vulturejoe | heh |
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| 07:49:50 | webguest89 | Question on H-120 and Rockbox... anyone a guru? |
| 07:50:43 | webguest89 | I just installed latest firmware (for no real reason) and now my Iriver won't play mp3s... I get "codec failure" when trying to play files |
| 07:51:26 | webguest89 | It was working perfecly before, and I tried to go back to a previous version.. but no luck. No files from CVS for last 30 days work for me. Does anyone have any old firmware... from like march for the h-120? |
| 07:53:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest89: You are copying over rockbox.iriver AND the .rockbox folder, right? |
| 07:54:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | It sounds like the .codec files didn't get replaced with up to date ones |
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| 07:55:13 | webguest89 | got it. You know... You are totally right. I am on a mac, and that .rockbox folder gets hidden. THANKS! I slept on that and forgot I needed to do it. |
| 07:55:17 | webguest89 | You Rock |
| 07:55:18 | webguest89 | :) |
| 07:55:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm pretty familiar with the easy to make mistakes like that. They just sorta happen, and it's easy to not realize it. :) |
| 07:56:29 | webguest89 | do you know (off the top of your head) the name of the software that was posted a long while back in the rockbox forums that is useful on the mac to unhide the folder? |
| 07:56:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | That I don't know. If I remember right, it's visible if you browse via the terminal, but I could be wrong. |
| 07:57:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | The easiest solution is to just copy the .zip file onto the unit, and extract it there. |
| 07:57:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | That way the folder is still hidden, but it's hidden on the player, which is fine. |
| 07:57:50 | webguest89 | ah. cool. I will just copy it that way. thanks paul! your nerdiness is MUCH appreciated. Damn it I've not had music in 2 days! |
| 07:57:51 | webguest89 | :) |
| 07:57:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 09:19:19 | sharpe | oh. |
| 09:19:41 | sharpe | i think i may have a sleep disorder. |
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| 09:21:32 | sharpe | and i just took the little covering on my ipod earbud's rca plug off... |
| 09:22:43 | ScoTTie | Collingwood for life ;p |
| 09:23:10 | moda|ASOT | rofl |
| 09:23:13 | moda|ASOT | afl is silly |
| 09:23:32 | JdGordon | pies r gonna get done next week |
| 09:23:33 | ScoTTie | i agree |
| 09:23:42 | JdGordon | moda|ASOT: your a fugby fan aye? |
| 09:23:55 | ScoTTie | rugbys worse ;\ |
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| 09:24:04 | moda|ASOT | nope, thats just silly |
| 09:28:56 | sharpe | oh wow... i'm done with the awakeness. |
| 09:28:59 | sharpe | i'm going to sleep. |
| 09:29:04 | sharpe | g'night people. |
| 09:29:07 | JdGordon | nn |
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| 10:16:43 | ritalin | omg hi |
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| 10:23:59 | Redbreva_ | Just posted a patch for the star plugin, if anyone could have a look with view to commiting...? |
| 10:24:02 | Redbreva_ | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5493 |
| 10:24:50 | Redbreva_ | (also http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5492 to update manual to latest key mapping changes) |
| 10:25:28 | Redbreva_ | Ah well, the garden won't do itself... later |
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| 10:31:28 | ritalin | hello |
| 10:31:32 | ritalin | i just installed rockbox |
| 10:31:45 | ritalin | do I still need a program like gtkpod to add music to it? |
| 10:31:52 | midkay | er, no, just drag+drop.. |
| 10:32:03 | ritalin | ok |
| 10:32:06 | midkay | rockbox is more or less a file browser, it can also sort by id3 tags. |
| 10:32:10 | ritalin | sweet |
| 10:32:19 | * | ritalin liked his directory structure better |
| 10:32:26 | ritalin | since half my id3's were wrong |
| 10:32:28 | midkay | no problem, just copy it all over |
| 10:32:32 | ritalin | sweet |
| 10:32:36 | * | ritalin gets to it |
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| 10:39:40 | JdGordon | doh! bloody & instead of | :'( |
| 10:42:09 | JdGordon | whats the easiest way to flip 1 bit? apart from checking if its set or not and doing blaa&bitmask depening on if it is already set ot not? |
| 10:42:26 | ritalin | o so i can make my own directory structure in rockbox |
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| 10:42:44 | linuxstb | ritalin: Did you manage to get the bootloader installed (I read your problem in the logs) |
| 10:42:53 | midkay | um, yes, i told you.. rockbox is a file browser, directories/files/whatever show up exactly as they exist on the device. |
| 10:42:55 | ritalin | linuxstb: yes i used windows |
| 10:43:18 | ritalin | midkay: thats neat |
| 10:43:34 | midkay | sure is.. |
| 10:44:31 | * | ritalin pets teh rockbox |
| 10:45:30 | linuxstb | ritalin: If you ever need to do it again, the command "dd if=/dev/da4 skip=63 of=bootpartition.bin" will read the boot partition. To write rockboot.bin, use "dd if=rockboot.bin seek=63 of=/dev/da4". |
| 10:45:50 | ritalin | ahh ty |
| 10:45:55 | * | ritalin writes that down |
| 10:46:04 | linuxstb | FreeBSD must hide the boot partition from you - in the same way as Darwin/Mac OS X and cygwin. |
| 10:46:20 | linuxstb | (only Linux seems to make it visible) |
| 10:53:12 | moda|ASOT | hrm.... |
| 10:54:54 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I think you're looking for "exclusive or" - e.g. (x ^ 0x01) will flip the first bit in x. |
| 10:55:14 | JdGordon | cheers |
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| 11:00:01 | moda|ASOT | i love ncis |
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| 11:11:47 | zigford | Ha |
| 11:13:32 | moda|ASOT | i dig ncis... |
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| 11:17:31 | zigford | i dig holes |
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| 11:36:23 | compubomb | http://www.geek24.com/g/2006/06/03/amazing-r-c-airplane-flying-what-a-pilot now that is cool |
| 11:39:27 | * | JdGordon calls bs! |
| 11:40:20 | JdGordon | airplanes cant hover like that.. |
| 11:40:25 | JdGordon | even rc ones |
| 11:40:57 | JdGordon | for sure BS... |
| 11:41:15 | JdGordon | its a regular video with a nice plane put in on a computer |
| 11:45:54 | midkay | JdGordon, haha. you wish. |
| 11:46:03 | JdGordon | ? |
| 11:46:34 | midkay | might have required some modification, but it's certainly not a cg plane. |
| 11:46:49 | JdGordon | for sure |
| 11:46:53 | * | midkay nods |
| 11:47:34 | JdGordon | have u seen that vid where they were showing off the latest tech which added cg items into a vid in realtime? like tanks and stuff... |
| 11:47:58 | midkay | i'd indeed like to see it. |
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| 11:49:08 | JdGordon | no idea where to look for it :p |
| 11:49:13 | JdGordon | but i rekon its that tech |
| 11:49:32 | JdGordon | the way he was holding the plane.. it looked like it went through his fingers |
| 11:49:38 | JdGordon | cool vid tho.. but not real |
| 11:51:51 | midkay | certainly is, JdGordon. just calm down. |
| 11:52:20 | JdGordon | hehe.. calm.. im always calm.. |
| 11:52:30 | moda|ASOT | :LOL: |
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| 12:39:40 | moda|ASOT | suckamydongabiatcho :p |
| 12:41:48 | ritalin | omg h4x |
| 12:42:20 | moda|ASOT | omg wallhax! |
| 12:42:23 | dongs | what |
| 12:42:23 | ritalin | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=159877698&size=o |
| 12:42:25 | ritalin | pretty |
| 12:42:39 | dongs | LOL! linux desktop |
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| 12:42:53 | ritalin | lollerskates |
| 12:43:01 | dongs | that menu is about all you can do with linux. |
| 12:43:07 | ritalin | :( |
| 12:43:09 | qwm | aww dongs |
| 12:43:10 | ritalin | its not linux |
| 12:43:13 | ritalin | its freebsd |
| 12:43:22 | dongs | a BLACK TERMINAL a horrible memory-leaking web browser and an abortion of a image manipulation app. |
| 12:43:42 | qwm | shut up. |
| 12:43:48 | qwm | that's so not true. |
| 12:43:51 | ritalin | :P |
| 12:43:57 | * | ritalin <3 irc |
| 12:44:14 | dongs | qwm: oh? |
| 12:44:33 | qwm | what are you doing here if you hate free software so much? |
| 12:44:42 | ritalin | loll |
| 12:44:44 | moda|ASOT | OH DONT START THAT HORSE AGAIN |
| 12:44:45 | ritalin | hes on linux |
| 12:45:01 | ritalin | 06:44 CTCP VERSION reply from dongs: irssi v0.8.9 - running on Linux i686 |
| 12:45:16 | qwm | that must be a violated version of linux. :\ |
| 12:45:23 | ritalin | m$ linux |
| 12:45:25 | qwm | well, he running it is violation enough. |
| 12:46:09 | dongs | look at those "antialiased" fonts in that screenshot |
| 12:46:13 | dongs | or hsould I say look at those LINUX fonts. |
| 12:46:19 | ritalin | its freebsd |
| 12:46:22 | dongs | because no other OS fucks font rendering as bad as linux. |
| 12:46:24 | ritalin | please dont call it linux |
| 12:46:34 | ashridah | ritalin: don't even bother, he's a mindless troll to begin with |
| 12:46:46 | * | HCl stares blankly |
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| 12:47:02 | dongs | dude, you mean you DONT see whats wrong with the fonts in that xterm? |
| 12:47:16 | ritalin | they look good here |
| 12:47:17 | HCl | ashridah: is it me or did the quality of the channel degrade a bit.. |
| 12:47:21 | JdGordon | font looks fine |
| 12:47:25 | JdGordon | nice n clear |
| 12:47:30 | midkay | HCl, it's far from you - it's dongs. |
| 12:48:07 | * | HCl stares at the amount of people in here |
| 12:48:22 | JdGordon | all but 5 are idling... |
| 12:48:25 | ritalin | hehe |
| 12:48:34 | HCl | mm, i remember days when there were 30 at most |
| 12:48:35 | preglow | six! |
| 12:48:37 | * | ritalin is waiting for ~/music/ to copy to /mnt/ipod/ |
| 12:48:41 | HCl | morning preglow |
| 12:48:42 | midkay | with the subtraction of one, we could triple.. no, quadruple the intelligence level.. |
| 12:48:44 | preglow | gmorning |
| 12:48:51 | qwm | :) |
| 12:49:04 | ritalin | i forgot to try one song before i coped everything :/ |
| 12:49:14 | * | HCl needs to prod slasheri about runtime database and so |
| 12:49:41 | JdGordon | while we're prodding slasheri... bugging him about the 2 patches ive done for TC |
| 12:49:52 | JdGordon | .. hoping he reads the logs.. |
| 12:49:57 | moda|ASOT | BOOBIES! |
| 12:50:02 | ritalin | moda|ASOT: ;) |
| 12:50:05 | moda|ASOT | :) |
| 12:50:21 | ritalin | i was like hold a sign for my friends on irc |
| 12:50:30 | moda|ASOT | ok, if i got a 5g ipod, would i use the normal ipod software, ipodlinux or rockbox, or something else? |
| 12:50:42 | ritalin | then my other buddy had her hold his magic the gathering guild sign |
| 12:50:47 | HCl | that entirely depends on what you want to do with your ipod? |
| 12:50:49 | moda|ASOT | if rockbox is installed on an ipod, can you go back and forth between firmwares? |
| 12:50:49 | ritalin | lol she was like look at these nerds |
| 12:50:54 | dongs | yes |
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| 12:51:03 | dongs | hold menu after hard reset = apple firmware. |
| 12:51:08 | moda|ASOT | ahh |
| 12:51:22 | Slasheri | JdGordon: at least i will try to commit the first patch soon. The second one requires whole re-implementation to the dir browsing stuf, including virtual dir support.. i think that would fix it correctly then |
| 12:51:25 | moda|ASOT | how do you install rockbox on ipods anyway? |
| 12:51:32 | dongs | theres a 6-step procedure. |
| 12:51:38 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 12:51:45 | dongs | or somethign similar to 6 steps. |
| 12:51:50 | JdGordon | :) |
| 12:51:58 | moda|ASOT | lol, iriver installation is like 10 steps |
| 12:51:59 | HCl | Slasheri: ahoy. what's the news on runtime info? and do I still need to adjust the searchengine or can the tagcache do advanced searches too? |
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| 12:53:00 | Slasheri | HCl: i haven't yet started working with the runtime db so i can't say for sure what the api will look like (but i will probably think about that soon). Tagcache should be able to do all searches possible in future (currently it still has some limitations) |
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| 12:53:23 | Mmmm | I want to display part of a string ("/recordings/rec_0001.wav" -> "rec_0001.wav"), is there a function that will do this for me (substr doesn't work and I don't want to include any extra C libs)) |
| 12:54:44 | Mmmm | or is the only way to have a for next loop print each char separately? |
| 12:55:11 | moda|ASOT | is someone doing an ipod optimized build like there is for h3xx? |
| 12:55:58 | JdGordon | doing your own build is dead simple.. once the compiler is setup.. |
| 12:56:03 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 12:56:09 | JdGordon | hey |
| 12:56:19 | JdGordon | you can even automate the whole thing if u eally wanted to.. |
| 12:57:00 | HCl | Slasheri: mk, when you start on it, give me a message, i'd like to know how it'll work |
| 12:58:16 | Slasheri | HCl: ok, i will :) |
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| 13:08:31 | JdGordon | cvs [login aborted]: connect to www.rockbox.org(193.15.23.131):2401 failed: Connection refused |
| 13:08:44 | JdGordon | is that the rockbox server complainig? or my uni server complaining? |
| 13:09:46 | JdGordon | damn.. looks like the uni server being a basterd |
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| 13:50:28 | Lear | Anyone working on the wav/flac resume bug (#5341), or seen a patch for it? If not, I'll take a look at it... |
| 13:53:47 | preglow | resume bug? |
| 13:54:41 | preglow | how does resume work, really? |
| 13:54:47 | Lear | yes, always "resumes" at the beginning. |
| 13:55:10 | Lear | depends on the format. For some, playback.c does everything, for others, the codec checks the id3.offset field. |
| 13:57:04 | amiconn | Sounds like something that should be simplified/unififed |
| 13:57:12 | amiconn | *unified |
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| 14:02:22 | Lear | well, moving the offset handling to the mpeg and wavpack codecs should be easy enough, but it doesn't change all that much either. :) |
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| 14:24:20 | rkd | Does Rockbox give you the option to output everything as mono sound in iPods? |
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| 14:26:12 | Lear | Hm... Shouldn't more codecs call set_offset? Not sure what the purpose is, to tell the truth. :) |
| 14:29:24 | Lear | Ah, now I remember, call it if advance_buffer isn't called for some reason... |
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| 14:42:51 | earHertz | Anyone running Windows XP able to do me a quick favor, please? |
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| 14:46:01 | rkd | Does Rockbox give you the option to output everything as mono sound in iPods? I'm deaf in one ear, so using stereo sound means I lose portions of the music, and the regular iPod Mini firmware doesn't do this. |
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| 14:47:25 | earHertz | rkd: yeah, under menu|sounds settings |
| 14:47:55 | rkd | earHertz: Thanks, I'll look into installing Rockbox later, then. |
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| 14:49:04 | earHertz | rkd: I have it installed on my ipod videoo. quite easy to install, and easy to use the apple ifrmware too, if I neeed to |
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| 15:05:54 | * | Febs needs another cup of coffee. |
| 15:06:30 | Febs | I just committed a bunch of updates to the manual with reference to the wrong bug number. (5480 instead of 5460) |
| 15:07:16 | Lear | So? |
| 15:07:18 | Lear | :) |
| 15:07:23 | earHertz | Febs: add a bunch of fake bugs until you get 5480 ;) |
| 15:07:29 | Febs | lol. |
| 15:09:05 | amiconn | Change the commit msg |
| 15:09:15 | Febs | I didn't realize I could do that. |
| 15:10:15 | amiconn | cvs admin -m <revision>:<message> <file> |
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| 15:14:21 | amiconn | I think the frontpage catches the information change at the next commit then |
| 15:14:40 | Febs | It worked. The front page updates immediately. |
| 15:15:38 | amiconn | Still reads 5480 here |
| 15:15:51 | * | whatboutbob just managed to kill a h120 hdd. |
| 15:16:04 | Mikachu | it's updated here |
| 15:18:42 | Febs | Cool. It also worked for commits with multiple files. |
| 15:19:14 | Febs | Sort of. It added the new message to the prior message. |
| 15:19:52 | amiconn | That's new to me |
| 15:20:04 | amiconn | When I did that last time, it replaced the old msg |
| 15:20:06 | earHertz | I wish we were using subversion. Much earer than cvs |
| 15:25:12 | JdGordon | congrats whatboutbob |
| 15:25:25 | whatboutbob | jdgordon: thank you sir. |
| 15:25:31 | JdGordon | howd u kill it? |
| 15:25:44 | whatboutbob | ergh...i'm a dumb-arse... |
| 15:26:07 | whatboutbob | accidentally put some pressure on it...while it was spinning up to make matters worse... |
| 15:26:32 | amiconn | Hmm, quick q for graphical wps users? |
| 15:26:54 | amiconn | Does battery animation while charging work with current cvs? |
| 15:27:38 | earHertz | amiconn: sorry, I don;t have teh current cvs |
| 15:27:52 | amiconn | I mean when implemented as a tag, not the statusbar version |
| 15:28:15 | amiconn | Well, 'current' can also be a month old in this case |
| 15:28:17 | whatboutbob | made a nice little grinding noise...now rockbox won't boot....windows won't see it... iriver f/w will boot but '000 files' and one gobbledy-gook dir... |
| 15:28:35 | * | whatboutbob gives himself a pat on the back for a fine evening's work. |
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| 15:34:21 | Febs | amiconn, I can check for you in a minute. I'm in the processing of compiling and updating my ipod build right now. |
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| 15:42:21 | Febs | amiconn, I've tried a few WPSes, and none has an animated battery charging indicator. What tag is it you're looking at? I want to make sure the WPSes I'm trying have that tag. |
| 15:43:04 | amiconn | Well, if the wps has a battery status display implemented with tags & bitmaps, I want to know whether it animates while charging |
| 15:43:53 | amiconn | If it doesn't, tt would also be interesting whether it animates with cvs from before March 2nd |
| 15:45:08 | Febs | OK. I doesn't animate on WPSes with battery status displays implemented with tags & bitmaps on my iPod 5G with current CVS. |
| 15:45:37 | Febs | Let me dig out my H120. It's been a while since I updated the build on it and it's possible that the build is from before 2 March. |
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| 15:50:00 | Febs | The good news is that the build on my H120 is 01 March. The bad news is that I have no idea where the charger is. |
| 15:51:31 | lowlight | Lear: I have a patch for flac resume. |
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| 15:52:35 | Lear | Interesting. I've started one, but it doesn't work yet... :) |
| 15:54:40 | bluebrother | Febs, I just read your comment to FS #5460. I'd vote for introduce a HAVE_LCD_COLOR to fix (6) |
| 15:55:31 | amiconn | gtg |
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| 15:57:54 | bluebrother | is latex unicode support contained in a standard debian install? |
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| 15:58:43 | Maxou` | Hi |
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| 15:58:52 | Mikachu | i don't think latex supports unicode at all..? |
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| 15:59:02 | Maxou` | I have a little question, how did you do the "Recent CVS updates"? a script available on the net? |
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| 16:00:38 | Lear | lowlight: can you send me yours? |
| 16:01:01 | Febs | bluebrother, I think that was Jonas' comment, but I agree. |
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| 16:05:25 | Genre9mp3 | quick question: How can I recreate the .cvspass file??? |
| 16:07:11 | t0mas | re-login |
| 16:07:14 | bluebrother | recreate? Why don't you just log in to the cvs server again? |
| 16:07:38 | Febs | amiconn, if you read the logs, the battery indicator IS animated on the 01 March build with the Marquee WPS. |
| 16:09:11 | Genre9mp3 | I get this: cvs login: warning: failed to open /home/ÃÉÁÍÍÇÓ/.cvspass for reading: No such f |
| 16:09:11 | Genre9mp3 | ile or directory |
| 16:09:22 | Maxou` | Genre9mp3, try again |
| 16:09:26 | Maxou` | then it will work |
| 16:10:22 | Genre9mp3 | Ok...it worked...thanx |
| 16:10:43 | Maxou` | ^^ |
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| 16:11:32 | lowlight | Lear: email? I'll send it in a little while. |
| 16:11:50 | linuxstb | lowlight: I've just been looking at your FLAC resume patch now (sorry it's taken so long). I haven't tested it yet, but it looks OK. |
| 16:12:08 | Lear | linuxstb: It's on the tracker? |
| 16:12:40 | linuxstb | No, lowlight emailed it to me a couple of days ago. |
| 16:12:45 | Lear | ah |
| 16:13:02 | Lear | lowlight: lear at algonet dot se |
| 16:14:30 | linuxstb | Lear: I've just forwarded it to you. |
| 16:14:37 | Lear | thanks. |
| 16:16:05 | linuxstb | The part I don't like about the patch is that it's still reliant on the seektable. It should be possible to accurately resume a FLAC file to a specific byte offset without any seek table. |
| 16:16:49 | linuxstb | The painful part is taking account of the PCM buffer latency - the existing code just estimates the byte offset in the file based on the current latency (in ms) and the average bitrate in the file. But in theory, we should be able to store the exact byte offset. |
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| 16:17:36 | Lear | it removes the metadata wait loop too... |
| 16:18:47 | Lear | lowlight: what's the purpose of the playback.c patch? |
| 16:19:01 | linuxstb | Is that loop still needed? The need for that has always seemed odd to me. |
| 16:19:47 | linuxstb | Lear: It appears to fix the "seeking out of buffer" bug. It's the same patch I've posted to the bug tracker in the bug report. |
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| 16:20:36 | Lear | linuxstb: well, that loop is there for several codecs at least... Don't know if it is needed though. :) |
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| 16:21:40 | Cheatr | Hi |
| 16:22:30 | Cheatr | I'm interested in starting to program plugins for the iPod video. I found a How To Write Plugin page on the wiki. Does anyone know of any other guides? |
| 16:22:52 | linuxstb | Lear: The change I'm thinking of that may make that loop obsolete is that get_metadata() is now always called before the codec is loaded - get_metadata() is responsible for deciding which codec is to be used. (solves the .m4a AAC/ALAC issue). |
| 16:23:27 | linuxstb | Lear: But like you, I'm not 100% sure if the loop is needed or not... |
| 16:23:43 | Lear | Well, then it shouldn't be needed. |
| 16:23:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cheatr: If you're the same as "Cheater" in the forums, the suggestion to just look at the source of other plugins is still the best idea. |
| 16:24:02 | Febs | I am loving this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5294 |
| 16:24:30 | Febs | It causes the PLAY button to invoke the WPS from the menus as well as from the file browser. |
| 16:24:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Febs: And Menu exits the menu to wherever you invoked it from? Am I reading that right? |
| 16:24:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because if so, I think I've got a bit of a schoolboy crush on that patch already. |
| 16:25:00 | Febs | Yes, I was just typing that. |
| 16:25:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | That kinda emphasizes the popup nature of the menu. Which is good. |
| 16:25:44 | Febs | I've only played with it for a few minutes, but I believe that it really improves the intuitiveness of navigation. |
| 16:26:07 | * | bluebrother seconds that |
| 16:26:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd thirds. |
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| 16:27:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Febs: Also, seen this? I've been seeing more people who're getting stuck on iPod installation because they're reading the manual, so I have a bit of an interest into whether this seems usable, but I don't seep .tex at all http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5491 |
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| 16:28:33 | bluebrother | Paul_The_Nerd, I've noted it. Haven't looked into it though |
| 16:28:40 | Febs | I hadn't seen it, but I will take a look at it right now. Lord knows that if people are actually reading the manual, we want to do everything in our power so they continue reading it. |
| 16:28:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 16:29:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Every time someone says "I was reading the manual, but..." I'm caught off guard. |
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| 16:31:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also, I would like to propose that the manual pdf file not go in the /.rockbox/docs folder, but actually in the root alongside rockbox.whatever, so that it's one of the first things, or the first thing, someone sees when they extract an archive, for once it's included. |
| 16:32:27 | Mikachu | what would be the point of including the pdf in the install zip? you can't view it on the player anyway |
| 16:32:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Because some people extract rockbox.zip and then say "Hey, now what do I do with this?" |
| 16:33:10 | Mikachu | but once they know, they now have to go in docs/ and remove the pdf every time |
| 16:33:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, maybe just with release archives then |
| 16:34:20 | linuxstb | We should be able to include a plain-text version of the manual from the LaTeX source for reference on the player though. |
| 16:34:25 | bluebrother | Mikachu, that's the reason why I proposed this to be included in the fullzip −− people that are updating regularly will use the standard zip most likely. |
| 16:34:33 | Mikachu | ah |
| 16:35:29 | bluebrother | I'm just looking over the ipod installation instructions ... |
| 16:36:13 | linuxstb | I'm not sure how much time it's worth spending on that chapter. I would hope we would have GUI installers by the time we release. |
| 16:36:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | bluebrother: My proposal was that it be put in root rather than docs, so that people are more likely to see it. I feel that if they won't find it on the site, they won't find it in /docs, and if they would in /docs, they'd find it in the site. But that may be just me. |
| 16:36:32 | linuxstb | Maybe simply link the user to the wiki (IpodPort page) in the draft manual. |
| 16:36:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Someone already wrote it as a patch. No harm in adding it for the time being, if it's usable |
| 16:36:52 | Febs | x2 |
| 16:36:55 | linuxstb | The harm is that it needs to be maintained... |
| 16:37:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aaah |
| 16:37:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Linking to the wiki may be better for the time being then, you're right |
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| 16:39:20 | Febs | Honestly, just having a quick read through what Jonas wrote, it is probably easier to follow than the wiki, just because of the formatting. |
| 16:39:41 | Febs | (Yeah, I know that the wiki is not *really* hard to follow, but people seem to have trouble.) |
| 16:40:23 | linuxstb | Also, Jonas has re-simplified the instructions back to the basics. IMO, too many optional steps (dealing with special cases) have been added to the wiki. |
| 16:40:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm sure I'll be answering questions still either way, so I'll stay out of the debate. :) |
| 16:40:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, that iPodLinux users only step throws people off very frequently |
| 16:41:00 | linuxstb | I would be happy to just remove that... |
| 16:41:09 | Febs | I modified the format of that wiki page slightly this morning to make it more clear. |
| 16:41:13 | linuxstb | Or at the very least, move it to a new page. |
| 16:41:25 | linuxstb | Similarly with the conversion from FAT32 to HFS part of the Mac OS X page. |
| 16:41:35 | bluebrother | Febs, if there are no bigger (building) problems with Jonas patch I'll submit it today. |
| 16:41:53 | bluebrother | (with a added note referring to the wiki) |
| 16:42:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | There should be a "Identify what you need to do" portion, with questions like "Do you currently have iPodLinux installed?" and "Is it a HFS+ formatter iPod / is it a Macpod?" |
| 16:42:22 | Febs | I just made a couple of changes and it now compiles cleanly. If you let me submit that, there are a couple of formatting issues that you are probably more qualified to fix than I. |
| 16:42:38 | bluebrother | ok, go ahead. |
| 16:43:08 | bluebrother | Paul_The_Nerd, sounds like having a web wizard then ;-) |
| 16:43:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, the problem is that most people installing it now fall into the 'End User' category, rather than the 'technically adept' category. |
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| 16:44:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | The two options are to make it clearer that Rockbox isn't ready for "Users" yet, or make the installation more dumbed down. |
| 16:44:20 | bluebrother | I was thinking about building a web updater already ... |
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| 16:44:41 | bluebrother | which would mostly update an installed system. |
| 16:44:44 | Febs | OK, Jonas' patch should now be in CVS. |
| 16:45:01 | bluebrother | Does anybody know of the state of Cassandras installer? |
| 16:45:12 | Febs | linuxstb, I will keep an eye on the wiki so that if there are changes that affect what is in the manual, I can keep the manual up-to-date. |
| 16:45:57 | linuxstb | Febs: Thanks. |
| 16:46:02 | Lear | linuxstb: what patch was that playback.c seek patch attached to? |
| 16:46:07 | Lear | rather, what bug report... |
| 16:46:19 | linuxstb | Is anyone working on generating HTML output from the manual? |
| 16:47:07 | linuxstb | Lear: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5305 |
| 16:47:20 | Lear | Thanks. |
| 16:48:13 | linuxstb | I think preglow tested the patch as well, but I can't remember his conclusions. |
| 16:48:35 | Febs | Is that PLAY button patch we discussed a few minutes ago something that needs to wait for the end of the freeze? (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5294) |
| 16:48:38 | bluebrother | Febs, nice. |
| 16:49:14 | bluebrother | linuxstb, I started looking in HTML output but is somewhat tricky |
| 16:49:29 | bluebrother | (as we're using pretty much macros) |
| 16:49:54 | Lear | linuxstb: but does only flac need it? Just tried a long wav, no problem there. |
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| 16:50:39 | linuxstb | Lear: Good question... |
| 16:51:17 | linuxstb | bluebrother: What's the problem? Why are the macros an issue for HTML, and not the PDFs? |
| 16:51:26 | Febs | bluebrother, at line 89 of ipod_install.tex, I tried using \verbatim to get around a compiler error caused by the underscore. Apparently not the best way to do it. |
| 16:51:47 | bluebrother | linuxstb, latex2html fails on them pretty heavily. |
| 16:52:38 | bluebrother | the only solution that worked at least partly was tex4ht. |
| 16:57:01 | bluebrother | Febs, you need to escape it −− ipod\_fw |
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| 16:57:26 | Febs | Great, I will keep that in mind for the future. |
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| 16:58:48 | tucoz | Hello |
| 16:59:09 | bluebrother | hi tucoz :) |
| 16:59:21 | tucoz | I'll commit HAVE_LCD_COLOR as suggested in some patch |
| 16:59:39 | tucoz | and a fix to the %X tag |
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| 17:00:03 | bluebrother | nice, we already discussed this earlier today |
| 17:00:51 | tucoz | :). Probably not the proper fix for the verbatim section. We should introduce our own macro for that. Like a verbatim-example macro. |
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| 17:01:26 | bluebrother | what verbatim section you're referring to? |
| 17:01:26 | GaLi | hi all |
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| 17:02:20 | tucoz | where the X tag is shown |
| 17:02:40 | tucoz | I use our own \config macro now. |
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| 17:03:11 | tucoz | As verbatim writes the text verbatim (including HAVE_LCD_COLOR) |
| 17:03:38 | bluebrother | ah, ok. |
| 17:04:56 | GaLi | does anyone have some info on how to test a custom firmware (like rockbox) on an Archos Gmini XS 202 *WITHOUT* damaging it ? (I've been looking through the wiki pages but haven't found anything concrete) |
| 17:05:00 | tucoz | nice macro you committed earlier today. |
| 17:05:36 | bluebrother | thanks. |
| 17:06:36 | bluebrother | I was thinking if it was a good idea using a monospaced font for the fname macro −− in most cases it is some kind of "typed" text. |
| 17:07:13 | tucoz | like texttt? |
| 17:08:14 | tucoz | I think all 'OS'-stuff looks good with a texttt font. Like config/wps-file examples. Filenames etc. |
| 17:08:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | GaLi: I don't believe the Gmini XS 202 is supported at all. |
| 17:08:49 | tucoz | I got to go. Check back later. |
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| 17:11:48 | bluebrother | Febs, I think we don't need to point out ipodpatcher to be GPL (as it is in the installation instructions atm) |
| 17:12:12 | GaLi | Paul_The_Nerd: someone is working on a port for the Gmini 200 (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort) which really looks like a XS 202 |
| 17:12:38 | GaLi | I'd like to work on port for the XS 202 |
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| 17:14:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | GaLi: As I said, it's not supported. That doesn't mean someone wasn't working on it. It clearly says that to run on the 2xx ones the display still needs to be implemented. It will likely require some hardware specific knowledge to get it running on the 202. It's more than an issue of simply "testing" it to see if it works. |
| 17:15:14 | Febs | bluebrother, agreed. That GPL notice makes sense for the wiki page from which the actual program is downloaded, but is unnecessary for the manual. |
| 17:16:24 | bluebrother | maybe we should add something to the appendix stating rockbox being GPL with all its own tools. |
| 17:16:44 | bluebrother | but otoh the user still sees this when downloading the program |
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| 17:18:20 | GaLi | Paul_The_Nerd: ok, I got that. I'd like to try to code the LCD driver for example but don't know how to start |
| 17:20:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | GaLi: Well, it tells what is necessary to set up the hook from a link at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPortDevelopment which is linked off the page you linked above. |
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| 17:20:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | But as is said, you're best working on/in gmemu |
| 17:24:34 | GaLi | ok, i'll try gmemu/gemoss, thanks |
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| 17:34:05 | sharpe | hallo. |
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| 17:36:34 | earHertz | Can anyone recommend a good introductory linux system for development. I want all the dev tools, but no office productivity apps. and preferably KDE, not Gnome. |
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| 17:40:32 | GaLi | earHertz: Slackware should be ok for you |
| 17:40:53 | earHertz | thanks, tell me more? |
| 17:42:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd suggest just reading about it at the site. |
| 17:42:29 | GaLi | well, it has KDE has the standard window manager and, when installing it, you can choose exactly what you need. So, you can install all the dev tools, KDE and nothing else :) |
| 17:42:49 | earHertz | me likee |
| 17:43:02 | earHertz | I'm looking at gentoo right mnow, and it seems a bit of a pain |
| 17:43:05 | earHertz | to install |
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| 17:43:08 | GaLi | this is a text-mode installer but it's really great and easy to use |
| 17:43:27 | GaLi | yeah, you have to compile everything on Gentoo |
| 17:45:01 | rconan | gentoo is supposed to be really great if you have the time and processing power to compile everything |
| 17:45:03 | lowlight | Lear: thanks for fixing. |
| 17:48:23 | lowlight | however, there's still the issue of long seeks. |
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| 17:50:22 | MasonCross | has anyone started a sansa port? |
| 17:50:47 | sharpe | nope. |
| 17:51:27 | MasonCross | Any advice on where I should start if I was going to attempt to start one. |
| 17:51:29 | earHertz | GaLi: can I stalle slackware from a cd, or is it more complictaed? |
| 17:51:52 | sharpe | MasonCross: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=NewPort |
| 17:52:17 | MasonCross | The Sansa e200 have the portalplayer 5024 |
| 17:52:34 | MasonCross | thanks |
| 17:52:46 | sharpe | you're welcome |
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| 17:55:00 | sharpe | MasonCross: also, here's a forum topic about it, although it may not be very useful, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3225.0 |
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| 18:03:44 | GaLi | earHertz: you can get the ISOs from http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/slackware/slackware-10.2-iso/ |
| 18:04:03 | GaLi | the first 2 .iso should be enough to install all you need |
| 18:04:06 | earHertz | and teh first one is bootable? |
| 18:04:12 | GaLi | yep |
| 18:04:31 | earHertz | great. thanks |
| 18:06:58 | RedBreva | Nice work on the manual today guys... May well be ready before 3.0 at this rate :D |
| 18:07:31 | bluebrother | RedBreva, nice to see you |
| 18:07:47 | RedBreva | Hi bluebrother |
| 18:07:54 | bluebrother | I've played around a bit with the themes page ... made a small php script. |
| 18:08:02 | RedBreva | cool |
| 18:08:13 | bluebrother | if you're interested: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/themes/ |
| 18:08:44 | RedBreva | hehehe, just like the real thing :D |
| 18:08:55 | bluebrother | it's mostly a quick hack and designed for a drop-in solution. Put in the zip, a png and a txt with some comments. |
| 18:09:33 | sharpe | bluebrother: that looks very nice... |
| 18:09:36 | bluebrother | mostly. Found some small differences to your page but haven't removed them yet. |
| 18:10:29 | bluebrother | I was thinking if such a page would be nicer thant the wiki pages ... |
| 18:10:41 | sharpe | i believe it would be |
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| 18:11:58 | bluebrother | RedBreva, if you're interested in the script I can sent it to you. Needs PHP4. |
| 18:12:26 | sharpe | oh, but no sharpe? i see. heheh |
| 18:12:56 | RedBreva | It's main raison d’être was that it is actually a managed page, rather than a wiki... ie all the entries have actually been tested and proven to work... |
| 18:13:10 | RedBreva | Sure, would be good to see how it should be done :D |
| 18:13:15 | bluebrother | sharpe, if you want to host some themes ... or maybe rockbox.org itself? Np. |
| 18:14:02 | sharpe | well, i could put some themes on twisted`'s hosting i have. :D |
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| 18:15:17 | bluebrother | ln is a nice thing ;-) |
| 18:15:22 | bluebrother | http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/themes/themes.phps and index.phps |
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| 18:16:15 | sharpe | ln? |
| 18:16:27 | bluebrother | link files. |
| 18:16:31 | sharpe | oh, right |
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| 18:16:45 | bluebrother | php recognizes the extension phps, and displays the file syntax-highlighted. |
| 18:17:02 | sharpe | i did not know that about php, actually. |
| 18:17:02 | bluebrother | so I just symlinked it to the same name with that extension. |
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| 18:17:29 | bluebrother | all data is stored in the data subdirectory (you can browse it on that server) |
| 18:18:01 | bluebrother | for use with the script, I mean. |
| 18:18:55 | sharpe | fun |
| 18:19:26 | bluebrother | php is great for stuff like that because a lot of things can be achieved pretty quickly (and easy) :) |
| 18:19:34 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 18:19:41 | sharpe | i haven't used php in a little while |
| 18:20:31 | RedBreva | never even seen PHP till looking at that, so looks like I may have some reading to do ;-) |
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| 18:21:27 | bluebrother | php.net is a really great ressource when coding. |
| 18:22:15 | Mmmm | Does anyone here use an Ondio for recording? |
| 18:24:40 | RedBreva | bluebrother: Will your site stay up for a while? I am away on a training course from Monday Am till Friday PM, and won't be online at all in that time, and could really use it to get my head around the way it works... |
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| 18:26:29 | bluebrother | RedBreva, I'm using that page mostly just as playground and for demonstrating purposes, but I can leave the files around some time. |
| 18:27:07 | bluebrother | or put all files in an archive and send it to you. It's mostly copied from your page ;-) |
| 18:27:47 | RedBreva | That may be better if you could... |
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| 18:29:54 | bluebrother | RedBreva, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/rockbox-themes.tar.bz2 |
| 18:30:17 | RedBreva | I don't have permission... |
| 18:30:29 | bluebrother | oops, fixed. |
| 18:31:01 | RedBreva | ok, got it.... thanks |
| 18:31:13 | sharpe | hmm |
| 18:31:23 | sharpe | should i actually try the customized builds? |
| 18:31:26 | bluebrother | ok, I'm deleting the archive (as I'm somewhat low on disk space on that server) |
| 18:31:37 | sharpe | er, making a way for users to customize them. |
| 18:31:43 | bluebrother | sharpe, or do you want to get it before? ;-) |
| 18:31:53 | sharpe | ah, sure, whynot. have a backup :) |
| 18:32:02 | bluebrother | hehe :) |
| 18:32:20 | bluebrother | to make backups of your software distribute them as source code to the public ;-) |
| 18:32:25 | sharpe | hath got it |
| 18:32:56 | sharpe | that always works |
| 18:33:56 | bluebrother | I only forgot the license information for backuping to the public ;-) (Take it as GPL) |
| 18:34:08 | sharpe | hah |
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| 18:40:41 | bluebrother | nice, the credits inclusion is getting closer to what I want. |
| 18:41:55 | sharpe | hmm? |
| 18:43:01 | bluebrother | the credits list in the manual. |
| 18:43:15 | sharpe | oh. |
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| 18:43:38 | sharpe | i think i'll go do something. later everyone. |
| 18:43:48 | bluebrother | cu |
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| 18:52:44 | RedBreva | Anyone willing to commit the remaining part of http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5430 and have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5493 (similar thing - different plugin) |
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| 19:01:37 | RedBreva | Later guys, "Real Life" (tm) calls again... |
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| 19:43:37 | bluebrother | tucoz, do you know if I can assume to have utf8x as inputenc on all machines? |
| 19:44:14 | tucoz | no. There were talks earlier on wether we should switch to that completely |
| 19:44:22 | tucoz | So. I am not sure |
| 19:45:01 | bluebrother | I was playing around a bit with the inclusion of the credits file. But that is utf8. |
| 19:45:52 | bluebrother | so I have 2 issues left: we need to switch to utf8 for that and the Makefile needs to copy the credits file to the build dir (and strip the header) |
| 19:46:31 | bluebrother | but I haven't figured out how to extend the Makefile generation to do so. |
| 19:46:53 | tucoz | Do we have to switch to utf8 for the entire docs? |
| 19:47:19 | bluebrother | hmm, don't know. |
| 19:47:44 | tucoz | that is for the |
| 19:47:44 | bluebrother | file tells me only the credits file being utf8 |
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| 19:49:31 | tucoz | ok. Otherwize we would have to run sed to change the ö to \"o right? |
| 19:49:44 | tucoz | or something like that |
| 19:50:40 | bluebrother | or use iconv to convert it to latin1. But I'd prefer the utf8 approach as it would make it possible to use characters outside of latin1 (once we should need it) |
| 19:51:41 | bluebrother | we have also french accents and the spanish ~n |
| 19:51:43 | tucoz | Ok. And then we need to state something in the preamble? If that is the case, go ahead. I am a total rookie with regards to codepages |
| 19:52:28 | bluebrother | it's as simly as \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc}, but at least on my fedora box the utf8 stuff isn't in the main package. |
| 19:52:48 | bluebrother | unfortunately we can't simply include a style file for this. |
| 19:53:58 | tucoz | I see. But I think you know this better than me anyway. I'll let you decide what to do :) |
| 19:55:17 | bluebrother | damn ;-) |
| 19:55:20 | tucoz | hehe |
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| 19:55:54 | bluebrother | ok, I guess I'll should ask Bagder if we have utf8 on the build servers. I guess the manual is build on rockbox.org only? |
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| 19:56:40 | tucoz | I'll see if utf8 is in the main package |
| 19:56:43 | tucoz | on ubuntu |
| 19:57:25 | tucoz | which it isn't |
| 19:57:30 | obo | it's latex-ucs on debian.... |
| 19:57:57 | tucoz | Ok. I'll see if that is in my repos |
| 19:59:48 | tucoz | bluebrother, ok. It was as simple as apt-getting a package. Maybe we should just tell people to install that package. |
| 19:59:54 | tucoz | If they want to work on the manual |
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| 20:00:46 | bluebrother | I think this would be ok, but we need the daily servers know of that change before doin it actually ;-) |
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| 20:01:42 | tucoz | Yes. That might be something to thing of :) |
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| 20:03:06 | deadhead | hi guys |
| 20:03:16 | deadhead | I read a lot about this great project |
| 20:03:26 | deadhead | but I didn't get one thing |
| 20:03:39 | deadhead | if I have i.e. an ipod |
| 20:03:47 | deadhead | and I decide to use rockbox |
| 20:04:38 | deadhead | I can upload my music file directly on the player or I have to recreate the internal db ad with the ipod firmware? |
| 20:05:23 | deadhead | does rockbox make the ipod an easy and really multiplatform player? |
| 20:05:53 | | Quit sensoe () |
| 20:06:37 | bluebrother | deadhead, you can't use the ipod database. Instead, you can use its own database (tagcache) or play files based on their directory structure |
| 20:08:35 | deadhead | so no more legacy with iTunes or the need to use gtkpod!!!! |
| 20:08:43 | deadhead | G R E A T ! |
| 20:09:24 | deadhead | thank you bluebrother , I imagine something like that, but nowhere was written :D |
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| 20:11:14 | evilnick | obo, are you around? |
| 20:11:26 | obo | yup |
| 20:12:03 | evilnick | cool. Here's my crappy workaround for a non-RTC target - so that one can cubmit to last.fm: |
| 20:13:09 | evilnick | (s/cubmit/submit) 1. Find out the current unix timestamp, set this for the LAST song in the logfile |
| 20:14:11 | evilnick | 2. Subtract the length of the last song and also another value (as a form of buffer, I use 5 secs or 10 secs) and set that for the second to last song |
| 20:14:32 | obo | and then work your way back through the entire list? |
| 20:14:43 | evilnick | 3. Carry on using that formula and you've got an inaccurate, sloppy, but working way of submitting!! |
| 20:14:47 | evilnick | Yep |
| 20:14:48 | obo | hehe |
| 20:17:34 | obo | hmm, okay, it would be easy enough to log without the timestamp - say to a different filename |
| 20:17:48 | obo | and have something else post-process that file and add in the timestamps? |
| 20:17:55 | evilnick | Got no idea about scripting so have been using Excel to do this in the meantime. |
| 20:19:12 | evilnick | Yeah, it'd make sense to have this happen automatically in the submitting program/script if there was no proper timestamp. Would make it simpler for me, anyway |
| 20:20:57 | obo | okay, I'll see what I can cook up. |
| 20:21:26 | obo | what platform are you on, btw? |
| 20:21:48 | evilnick | Windows XP |
| 20:22:07 | evilnick | But I've obv. got the debian image for compiling. |
| 20:22:09 | obo | I meant ondio, or h1xx series or ... |
| 20:22:30 | evilnick | Ah, right, makes more sense... iRiver h140 |
| 20:23:34 | obo | okay, shouldn't be any problems - the HWCODEC stuff hasn't been tested yet |
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| 20:30:55 | dionoea | hi |
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| 20:44:34 | XavierGr | utf-8 for the credits plugin? |
| 20:44:49 | XavierGr | Doesn't this need a unicode default font? |
| 20:45:37 | XavierGr | ah I forgot Credits can be loaded with the font the user selected |
| 20:46:05 | XavierGr | but main problem is with screens that use the default font and non-latin characters |
| 20:47:16 | bluebrother | isn't the problem more the fact that the default font doesn't have all glyphs? |
| 20:48:11 | bluebrother | if I understand correctly rockbox is running completely using utf8 −− or is there a codepage switching function? |
| 20:49:07 | midkay | there's a codepage entry in the.. erm.. system menu? |
| 20:49:28 | midkay | i'm not at all into all that utf8/unicode/codepage stuff, but .. may be useful for you. :) |
| 20:50:37 | bluebrother | as far as I understood this setting was for the encoding of id3v1 tags (which don't have a specific encoding and no field indicating which encoding was used) |
| 20:50:49 | midkay | ah, quite possibly. no idea. :) |
| 20:51:53 | bluebrother | but I'm not sure, haven't found the time to work myself into the code −− atm it's just the credits file for the documentation for me ;-) |
| 20:53:47 | midkay | :) |
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| 21:19:28 | RedBreva | bluebrother: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/ hehehe, it worked... Now, I need to find time to understand it how, and start pacakaging up a few more themes... Vielen Dank |
| 21:20:09 | RedBreva | s/understand it how/understand how |
| 21:21:42 | midkay | RedBreva, just a tip.. the larger LCDs seem to have sized-down screens which is a bad idea IMO.. |
| 21:22:08 | midkay | people probably want to see exactly what they'll get, and it's hard to read many of them.. i liked the old click-image-for-larger-version setup. |
| 21:22:13 | midkay | maybe a link to a fullsized image would work. |
| 21:22:20 | midkay | either way, just a thought. :) |
| 21:23:02 | RedBreva | I agree, but this is mark 1 PHP scripted version - I need to read up on PHP now to enhance it to my satisfaction |
| 21:23:28 | RedBreva | The previous was hand coded HTML, and would be a 'mare to maintain... |
| 21:24:03 | midkay | ah. cool. :) |
| 21:24:06 | RedBreva | I am just pleased to actually get the bluebrother's scripts up and running at this moment :) |
| 21:24:20 | midkay | :) coming along well.. |
| 21:24:52 | RedBreva | thanks, I just need to find enough time to actually complete it now :( |
| 21:25:04 | bluebrother | RedBreva, great ;-) |
| 21:25:06 | midkay | ah, the tough part. :) |
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| 21:27:28 | bluebrother | RedBreva, if you want to use bigger preview images you can adjust the number of columns with the width variable |
| 21:27:49 | bluebrother | it gets adjusted depending on the resolution (atm it's always set to 4) |
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| 21:29:19 | RedBreva | OK... |
| 21:29:49 | sharpe | hello everyone... |
| 21:31:21 | bluebrother | feel free to ask if you need some improvements ... I've passed an exam on friday, so now I've some time for "playing around" ;-) |
| 21:31:37 | sharpe | i have to take an exam monday... |
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| 21:31:58 | RedBreva | congratulations... |
| 21:32:38 | bluebrother | hehe ... Schlund+Partner :) |
| 21:32:49 | bluebrother | they are located in my city |
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| 21:33:34 | RedBreva | I have a week of study on "Nortel Contact Centre 6, MultiMedia, Installation & Maintenance" - and the instructor is a well know PITA! |
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| 21:33:59 | RedBreva | Not looking forwards to that, at least no test at the end of it ;-) |
| 21:34:48 | RedBreva | what is preg_replace? |
| 21:36:39 | Quarryman | regular expression replace with perl-syntax |
| 21:37:25 | RedBreva | OK..... and in english? |
| 21:37:27 | bluebrother | but preg_replace takes two arguments for the replacement. |
| 21:37:45 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
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| 21:37:49 | bluebrother | replace the match of the regular expression (first argument) with the 2nd argument |
| 21:38:16 | bluebrother | and do this on the 3rd argument. |
| 21:38:43 | RedBreva | Ah, Ok was just about to ask about the 3rd arg... hehhee thanks |
| 21:40:39 | RedBreva | so just to make sure I've got it what would be the before and after with, for example, preg_replace('/\//', '', $_GET['res']) ?? |
| 21:41:07 | _FireFly_ | there is a syntax failure |
| 21:41:17 | _FireFly_ | or is the " an '' |
| 21:41:38 | bluebrother | it's two simple quotes, so it's perfectly correct |
| 21:41:43 | _FireFly_ | ok |
| 21:42:03 | bluebrother | this matches every single slash and replaces it with nothing. |
| 21:42:48 | bluebrother | the expression in enclosed in a delimiter, which is a slash in this case. Now match for a slash, which we need to escape with a backslash. |
| 21:43:00 | RedBreva | Ah, so /\ is an escaped backslash and // is an escaped forward slash? |
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| 21:43:17 | _FireFly_ | no \/ is a escaped slash |
| 21:43:33 | _FireFly_ | the backslash is used to escape the next char |
| 21:43:34 | bluebrother | no, it's / (beginning delimiter) \/ (escaped slash) / (ending delimiter) |
| 21:44:07 | bluebrother | similar to the line later: preg_replace('/\.zip$/', '', $v); |
| 21:44:30 | RedBreva | OK, brain starting to click into gear now... Thanks guys, lots to learn here |
| 21:44:34 | bluebrother | the . has a special meaning, as it matches any single character. To match a dot we need to escape it, hence the \. |
| 21:44:58 | bluebrother | while the $ marks the end of a line, thus matching the ending ".zip" |
| 21:45:13 | bluebrother | regexp can be fun, but also be hell ;-) |
| 21:45:19 | RedBreva | OK, easy once you understand it |
| 21:45:26 | RedBreva | or not! |
| 21:46:00 | bluebrother | hehe ;-) |
| 21:46:25 | RedBreva | does the $ prefix indicate a string var? |
| 21:47:09 | bluebrother | on php yes. |
| 21:48:02 | RedBreva | I feel a copy of "PHP for Dummies" will soon be purchased... Something to study before going to the bar in the evenings... |
| 21:48:22 | RedBreva | Definately not after the bar!! |
| 21:48:25 | sharpe | i bought a c# book, haven't had a need to use it... |
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| 21:48:55 | RedBreva | Nor me.... |
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| 21:48:58 | sharpe | also spilt something partially on it... |
| 21:49:07 | RedBreva | never programmed in c# tho... |
| 21:49:36 | sharpe | i do on occasion... |
| 21:50:12 | RedBreva | My last serious programming was actuallt in Visual Basic 3, so you can see how I may be a little rusty |
| 21:50:21 | RedBreva | or even actually |
| 21:50:40 | RedBreva | That is if you count VB3 as serious programming... hehehe |
| 21:50:46 | sharpe | i never really liked visual basic |
| 21:51:19 | RedBreva | working to an access 2 database :) |
| 21:51:21 | bluebrother | who actually does like vb? |
| 21:51:38 | bluebrother | sounds like really long ago. |
| 21:51:46 | RedBreva | I did... :( |
| 21:52:05 | bluebrother | I programmed basic on my c64 years ago. |
| 21:52:48 | bluebrother | what's the actual version number of access? 2003? MS must have released really much versions in the last years ;-) |
| 21:54:01 | RedBreva | Currently Access 2007 Beta which is Access 12 |
| 21:54:16 | RedBreva | But I think they skipped few versions |
| 21:55:37 | bluebrother | don't have the slightest intend to use it. |
| 21:56:35 | bluebrother | some days ago a pc magazine shipped with office 2007 beta. When I was talking with a friend of mine about that he told me he still needs to decide which machine to sarify ;-) |
| 21:56:49 | sharpe | heh... |
| 21:56:52 | RedBreva | Damn - VB3 was 1993... 13 years ago! |
| 21:57:12 | sharpe | wow. |
| 21:57:51 | RedBreva | I am running office 2007 on my desktop PC, it seems to be really stable, and quite nice to use - nothing has changed drastically (Except the ribbonbar) but it's just nicer |
| 21:58:29 | RedBreva | oh, anf Outlook takes even longer to load... but it does seem to have a decent RSS feed build in now |
| 21:58:45 | RedBreva | s/anf/and |
| 21:59:43 | bluebrother | I used to work with outlook about 2 years ago ... the calendar stuff is really nice but it's a desaster that calendar program can produce mails. |
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| 22:00:05 | bluebrother | I needed 2 month until I was able writing mails the way I wanted it to ... |
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| 22:01:50 | RedBreva | It still manages to take my carefully crafted thoughts and ideas, then sends out an e-mail full of typo's and factual inaccuracies... |
| 22:01:56 | Aghaster | hi |
| 22:02:25 | RedBreva | or perhaps, I should read what I type before pressing send :( hehehe |
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| 22:17:11 | bluebrother | aaah. Forgot to sort the device table. |
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| 22:25:36 | RedBreva | is an assumption of 1024 screen res minimum to unreasonable? |
| 22:25:53 | RedBreva | ie three iPod Video screens on each row? |
| 22:26:11 | sharpe | sounds... reasonable... |
| 22:26:12 | BHSPitMonkey | I'd make a site 800x600 safe |
| 22:26:33 | BHSPitMonkey | it'd be nicer if your table adjusted itself. |
| 22:26:57 | RedBreva | But wouldn't you assume anyone spending cash on a 320*240 resiolution DAP, would have better that 800*600 on the PC? |
| 22:27:02 | bluebrother | I have 1024 but I really dislike maximized windows, so my browser is usually more to 800px than 1024 |
| 22:27:44 | RedBreva | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 |
| 22:28:14 | bluebrother | looks good to me |
| 22:28:26 | RedBreva | OK... good enough for me |
| 22:28:33 | RedBreva | :D |
| 22:29:22 | bluebrother | pretty impressing how a big sized wps can look |
| 22:31:34 | RedBreva | Hmm, sorting the device table looks a bit odd - Recorder between iPod Color and H340? |
| 22:36:13 | bluebrother | yeah, that's what I meant. |
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| 22:36:35 | bluebrother | the association device name -> resolution is in data/devices.txt |
| 22:36:51 | RedBreva | OK, sorted into a manufacturer / chronological order |
| 22:37:09 | RedBreva | Not sure if there is a H300 is there? |
| 22:38:10 | bluebrother | you can simply add a natcasesort($dev); after the first fclose($hdl); line. That's what I meant before. |
| 22:38:36 | RedBreva | Oh... No Ondio...! |
| 22:39:19 | bluebrother | then simply add it to the devices.txt. My intention was to have a bunch of files and let the page adjust automagically ;-) |
| 22:39:45 | RedBreva | This is just so cool, nice one |
| 22:40:20 | bluebrother | that's the reason why I wanted to have that missed sort in there. |
| 22:40:29 | bluebrother | devices.txt is tab delimited. |
| 22:40:36 | BHSPitMonkey | hmm, row 1 doesn't work |
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| 22:45:46 | racestoapril1 | is there any documented tutorial for installing rockbox on a ipod mini 2nd gen with ubuntu linux? |
| 22:46:54 | bluebrother | ubuntu linux is just some linux distribution −− there shouldn't anything distribution specific. |
| 22:46:55 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah, search the wiki |
| 22:48:43 | tucoz | racestoapril1, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux <−− check that page |
| 22:49:13 | racestoapril1 | okay, thanks |
| 22:49:17 | racestoapril1 | i'm gonna try that |
| 22:49:28 | racestoapril1 | what are the main bonuses from installing rockbox? |
| 22:49:38 | racestoapril1 | in your opinion |
| 22:49:54 | Aghaster | hum... |
| 22:49:56 | Aghaster | games. |
| 22:49:58 | Aghaster | customisation |
| 22:50:00 | Aghaster | languages |
| 22:50:12 | dpassen1 | Gapless, on the fly playlisting, bootup time, directory navigation, constant updates |
| 22:50:14 | Aghaster | more music formats |
| 22:50:17 | Aghaster | like flac |
| 22:50:34 | Aghaster | ability to use your mp3 player as directory based |
| 22:50:44 | Aghaster | not using apple's database format |
| 22:50:49 | Aghaster | no DRM? |
| 22:51:05 | Aghaster | Freedom? |
| 22:51:14 | tucoz | A firmware in constant development |
| 22:51:15 | racestoapril1 | sweet |
| 22:51:42 | tucoz | where your voice could be heard (if your feature request is sane) |
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| 22:52:17 | RaeNye | unicode support in tags |
| 22:52:36 | Aghaster | lol, sane, yeah. not like that stupid guy who requested a wmv -> mp3 converter because "wmv is the second most used music format and has lots of future" |
| 22:52:45 | bluebrother | i still want the coffee maker plugin ;-) |
| 22:52:49 | Aghaster | XD |
| 22:53:16 | tucoz | Aghaster, hehe |
| 22:53:27 | RedBreva | bluebrother: Changing width at line 20 seems a little unpredictable... how do I make this device taleb 6 columns? |
| 22:53:38 | RaeNye | I want plugins that are both realistic and infeasible |
| 22:53:44 | Aghaster | When i read that all that was in my head was like "omg this guy is completely mad" |
| 22:54:03 | RaeNye | e.g., playing rockboy 1 on 1 via USB link |
| 22:54:15 | Aghaster | second most used format and that has a future... "good format" XD |
| 22:55:07 | tucoz | RaeNye, that would be cool |
| 22:55:30 | bluebrother | RedBreva, change $width to 6 |
| 22:55:53 | racestoapril1 | has anyone here ever compiled the ipod version with linux? |
| 22:56:10 | Aghaster | yes |
| 22:56:11 | Aghaster | me |
| 22:56:12 | bluebrother | line 19. |
| 22:56:14 | RedBreva | Got it, there was another 4 hard coded at line 47 |
| 22:56:24 | Aghaster | its far easier than on windows, i'd say |
| 22:56:26 | ritalin | yay |
| 22:56:30 | ritalin | rockbox works great |
| 22:56:38 | Aghaster | of course it does ;) |
| 22:56:45 | bluebrother | oops, yeah, I missed that one. |
| 22:57:00 | racestoapril1 | Aghaster: what distro of linux do you use? i'm using C and i'm trying to figure out how to compile the package |
| 22:57:06 | ritalin | was listening to my Ride of the valkyries Wavpacks :P |
| 22:57:08 | RaeNye | Another improbable feature-req: while hearing FM radio, detect commercial breaks automatically and play a mp3 instead |
| 22:57:12 | Aghaster | linux gentoo |
| 22:57:25 | RedBreva | changed that to $width and it;s doing what I expected now... I like the test's you build into this... It's a great tutorial method ;-) |
| 22:57:41 | Aghaster | racetoaprill: download from cvs and use the rockboxdev.sh script in the tools directory |
| 22:57:54 | RaeNye | Aghaster: are you able to compile /and run/ the ui sim? I use gentoo as well and get alsa seg fault |
| 22:57:55 | Aghaster | it'll install the toolchains required to build rockbox |
| 22:58:07 | Aghaster | i haven't built the ui sim yet |
| 22:59:37 | racestoapril1 | aghaster: which version should i use, ipod mini 2g or ipod mini 2g boot or ipod mini 2g sim |
| 22:59:56 | Aghaster | for what? |
| 22:59:59 | petur | hardeep? |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:09 | racestoapril1 | from the CVS |
| 23:00:23 | Aghaster | emerge rockbox-dev from cvs |
| 23:00:30 | Aghaster | not emerge, but download |
| 23:00:53 | Aghaster | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingCVS |
| 23:00:56 | RaeNye | please try it and tell me if it segfaults |
| 23:01:20 | RedBreva | OK, bluebrother, once again thank you for your help... I am off now till Friday. Night all |
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| 23:01:40 | XavierGr | ah nice B#5354 was a yield after all. |
| 23:02:10 | | Quit Sinbios (Connection timed out) |
| 23:02:11 | * | petur isn't convinced what part of #5354 was fixed |
| 23:02:29 | ritalin | rockbox play .acc? |
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| 23:03:53 | tucoz | ritalin, you mean .AAC? in that case, yes |
| 23:04:15 | petur | but not continuously ;) |
| 23:04:17 | tucoz | but not realtime according to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs |
| 23:04:37 | ritalin | some guy sent me some .aac's and i cant play them with nuthin |
| 23:04:46 | ritalin | he might have recorded them wrong |
| 23:05:09 | tucoz | ritalin, optimize the rockbox codec and you can play them with rockbox :) |
| 23:05:21 | ritalin | [chad@sandman rite_of_spring]% file track01.cdda.aac |
| 23:05:21 | ritalin | track01.cdda.aac: MPEG ADTS, AAC, v4, LC, 44.1 kHz, stereo |
| 23:05:50 | tucoz | petur, not even realtime on the ipods? The soundcodecs page states that it plays realtime on ipod. |
| 23:06:01 | XavierGr | petur: the bug that made audio stop for a while when someone pages \up\down |
| 23:06:05 | racestoapril1 | i have a windows computer, i'm just gonna try and install rockbox on it with that comp |
| 23:06:16 | ritalin | racestoapril1: i found it to be easier |
| 23:06:16 | tucoz | racestoapril1, why not linux? |
| 23:06:19 | racestoapril1 | thanks for all of your help everyone! i'm gonna try and get it to work |
| 23:06:22 | ritalin | but i was on freebsd |
| 23:06:27 | racestoapril1 | i'm just confused about too much stuff |
| 23:06:30 | ritalin | and it wouldnt show some partions right |
| 23:06:46 | tucoz | racestoapril1, ubuntu is what I use. :) |
| 23:06:53 | racestoapril1 | i think the windows install might be a little easier, i'm new to linux |
| 23:07:01 | racestoapril1 | tucoz: same here, but i have 5.04 |
| 23:07:10 | racestoapril1 | and it'll be a while until i can upgrade |
| 23:07:15 | petur | XavierGr: somebody (xantus) mixed in another bugreport and caused confusion, so now I wonder what bug has been fixed |
| 23:07:15 | tucoz | racestoapril1, oh. You should update to dapper |
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| 23:07:48 | racestoapril1 | i want to, i just haven't had time to DL the updates |
| 23:08:32 | tucoz | I see. good luck with the windows install anyway :) |
| 23:08:53 | racestoapril1 | i'll be on if i have any trouble with the install |
| 23:09:00 | racestoapril1 | thanks everyone :) |
| 23:09:01 | | Part racestoapril1 |
| 23:13:45 | RaeNye | Hey, I didn't manage to recommend colinux to him :( |
| 23:14:17 | | Quit qwm ("brb!") |
| 23:14:23 | * | RaeNye needs to spend *even more* time on IRC |
| 23:15:06 | sharpe | :\ |
| 23:15:09 | * | petur still hasn't colinux working... networking troubles |
| 23:15:29 | petur | not that I've tried much lately |
| 23:17:49 | RaeNye | I'm using pcap-bridge. It gets blocked by my firewall, though, so I have to stay defenseless while running linux (ah, the irony) |
| 23:17:56 | sharpe | i need to think of something. |
| 23:19:03 | RaeNye | And I saw there's some preconfigured debian-based packaging of colinux with xming and esd called AndLinux (google it) |
| 23:20:36 | sharpe | aww... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4643.0 |
| 23:22:01 | petur | RTFW (w = wiki) |
| 23:22:17 | sharpe | it just makes me sad... |
| 23:22:53 | tucoz | that was funny |
| 23:23:12 | RaeNye | moreover, RTFW before you flash RB and void your warranty |
| 23:23:18 | weyer | too bad the mini's don't have colorscreens... otherwise i'd be able to play doom ;-) |
| 23:23:52 | weyer | (also, no problems with "hidious" blue screens) |
| 23:24:19 | sharpe | no, it's hiddious, get it right. :) |
| 23:24:19 | | Join NYC [0] (n=xtac@ool-18be77ce.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:24:32 | NYC | hey question, any pics/videos of the rockbox running on a nano? |
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| 23:25:06 | weyer | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano |
| 23:25:40 | NYC | thanks! |
| 23:27:13 | weyer | i did have a feeling that rockbox uses more battery... is that possible? |
| 23:27:16 | sharpe | who's going to be the first to reply to that post? |
| 23:27:25 | sharpe | yes, it's true. |
| 23:27:34 | sharpe | only for the ipods though... |
| 23:27:49 | weyer | too bad... |
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| 23:27:56 | sharpe | on the other players, it actually increases battery life on many of them... |
| 23:28:24 | tucoz | NYC, videos of rockbox. (not on nano though) http://www.youtube.com/results?search=rockbox+ipod&search_type=search_videos&search=Search |
| 23:28:58 | Someone | Hello, I am currently trying to get RockBox installed on my iPod, however, on the .exe installer, there is no option for "ipod", should I be using that installer or is there some other one? - Thanks |
| 23:29:45 | Quarryman | Someone: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 23:29:57 | Someone | Thank you Quarryman; |
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| 23:31:15 | sharpe | you know, i should actually get around to making the Installer for rockbox, with a nice interface... |
| 23:32:45 | Someone | I do appologize for comming directly into the IRC, I was following the instructions posted on a blog (http://foxmajik.livejournal.com/480621.html) and apparently he linked to the non-ipod installer |
| 23:32:51 | Someone | Thank you again for your help; |
| 23:33:36 | Quarryman | sharpe: I've considered doing that myself.. |
| 23:34:31 | linuxstb | ritalin: Looks like your AAC file is a raw AAC stream. Rockbox (and maybe the other apps you've tried) need AAC streams to be in an MPEG-4 container (.mp4 or .mpa extension). |
| 23:36:04 | NYC | yeah make an installer :) |
| 23:36:12 | sharpe | Quarryman: yeh, i've just procrastinated on it for like, a few months |
| 23:36:21 | sharpe | procrastinating. |
| 23:36:53 | sharpe | well, pick a tense... |
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| 23:40:11 | weyer | uhm, there's a wps upload guide in the wiki, with reference to "attach" links etc... but i don't find those buttons :-) am i at the wrong place? |
| 23:40:14 | weyer | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 23:40:40 | Aegeon | anyone here have rockbox running on their ipod? |
| 23:40:50 | Quarryman | I do |
| 23:40:57 | Aegeon | i'm thinking of trying it, but i just want to check on the stability of it first |
| 23:41:12 | Aegeon | Quarryman, should i dual boot it or go full out rock box? |
| 23:41:29 | Quarryman | Aegeon: I'd say dual boot |
| 23:41:54 | Aegeon | have you had any problems with it? |
| 23:42:36 | ritalin | linuxstb: ahh yeah |
| 23:42:39 | ritalin | ty again! |
| 23:42:41 | BHSPitMonkey | I haven't even heard of people completely removing the apple firmware. |
| 23:42:56 | BHSPitMonkey | it's pretty much always dual-boot, Aegeon (or even triple) |
| 23:43:51 | Aegeon | hows the battery life on it while running rockbox? |
| 23:44:01 | Aegeon | cause with ipodlinux its horrible :\ |
| 23:44:43 | weyer | it uses more battery than apple firmware, but i find it acceptable |
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