| 00:00:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landry Breuil |
| 00:00:12 | tongas | arrrhr |
| 00:00:19 | * | amiconn wonders why the HC doesn't want to go to sleep, and the DC seems to be only half-sleeping :/ |
| 00:00:27 | tongas | ok tongas will be ok |
| 00:00:44 | petur | amiconn: how do you check? |
| 00:00:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Freenode is its own thing, and many names are taken. |
| 00:00:48 | tongas | sorry to pollute a little your discussion, amiconn |
| 00:00:54 | tongas | i'm discovering IRC |
| 00:01:35 | amiconn | petur: GPIO22 (D_SUSPEND) is supposed to go high when the DC is suspended |
| 00:01:54 | amiconn | (I switch it to input, and it has a pullup) |
| 00:01:55 | petur | so what's half-sleeping then? |
| 00:02:30 | amiconn | However, it doesn't go high unless I set a bit that ignores H_SUSPEND and D_SUSPEND and always sets them high |
| 00:02:52 | amiconn | ..but the DC registers are inaccessible after the sleep sequence, so the thing should be sleeping.... |
| 00:02:54 | amiconn | ... |
| 00:03:16 | amiconn | Mompls, of course, an access will prepare it for wakeup |
| 00:03:19 | tongas | last q: how do i introduce the name of the person i want to point my post to, at the beginning of the sentence ? |
| 00:03:34 | | Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) |
| 00:03:44 | amiconn | ...but not actually wake it up if not unlocked within 5ms |
| 00:03:49 | amiconn | So the DC sleep should be ok |
| 00:05:50 | tongas | by pointing the name with the mouse ? |
| 00:05:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | tongas: In many clients, start typing the name and then hit tab after a few letters. |
| 00:06:03 | | Quit Bagder (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:06:45 | tongas | Paul_The_Nerd, ok ;) |
| 00:06:57 | petur | amiconn: temp readings in half fixed state? |
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| 00:11:50 | | Quit sharpe () |
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| 00:13:23 | amiconn | petur: Approx. half the heat, i.e. 3 °C above PCB |
| 00:13:53 | petur | good progress already ;) |
| 00:14:46 | amiconn | hmpf |
| 00:15:27 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 00:16:13 | tongas | time to sleep here, courage amiconn ! |
| 00:16:52 | petur | tongas: same timezone :) |
| 00:17:04 | tongas | where from |
| 00:17:07 | tongas | ? |
| 00:17:20 | * | petur is .be, amicon is .de |
| 00:17:31 | tongas | amiconn de i knew |
| 00:17:43 | tongas | me .fr |
| 00:17:43 | Mikachu | tongas: in time you will learn the secrets of irc, like /whois |
| 00:18:10 | tongas | please go on... |
| 00:18:14 | tongas | what is it ? |
| 00:18:17 | amiconn | Mikachu: /whois amiconn won't tell you where I'm from ;) |
| 00:18:38 | * | preglow welcomes Mikachu to freenode |
| 00:18:40 | Mikachu | no, but other secrets like /ctcp amiconn date will maybe reveal something |
| 00:18:58 | amiconn | true |
| 00:19:01 | Mikachu | or is it time? |
| 00:19:04 | Mikachu | i can never remember |
| 00:19:07 | preglow | time, afaik |
| 00:19:12 | Mikachu | so it is |
| 00:20:02 | preglow | i think/hope i've disabled ctcp in this end |
| 00:20:13 | preglow | i haven't |
| 00:20:15 | Mikachu | nope |
| 00:20:16 | preglow | :-) |
| 00:20:25 | sharpe | yay... xchat now... |
| 00:20:26 | amiconn | preglow: Any specific reason to do so? |
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| 00:20:38 | preglow | amiconn: just to be rid of annoying assholes who like to probe |
| 00:20:46 | preglow | i usually allow ping, but that's that |
| 00:20:50 | * | Bagder remembers the good old days of CTCP floods |
| 00:20:59 | tongas | preglow: how do you "write" an event ?("~ welcomes Mikachu to freenode") |
| 00:21:02 | * | preglow too... |
| 00:21:05 | Mikachu | tongas: /me |
| 00:21:06 | preglow | tongas: use the /me command |
| 00:21:27 | preglow | /me lols on the floor |
| 00:21:54 | preglow | the olden days of irc were truly golden, with takeovers and assholes everywhere |
| 00:21:57 | * | tongas thanks you! |
| 00:22:01 | Bagder | yeah |
| 00:22:36 | tongas | do you mean i'm an asshole °( |
| 00:22:37 | amiconn | preglow: Now even I have a question... how did you put the / at the start of the line w/o turningit into a command ? |
| 00:22:42 | preglow | amiconn: /say |
| 00:22:56 | Bagder | / |
| 00:23:01 | * | amiconn learned something... |
| 00:23:05 | tongas | / |
| 00:23:05 | sharpe | ah, irc... |
| 00:23:14 | Bagder | /me |
| 00:23:19 | * | preglow |
| 00:23:19 | | Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 00:23:21 | Bagder | I can do //me in xchat |
| 00:23:25 | Mikachu | just a / by itself works in irssi |
| 00:23:32 | preglow | Mikachu: nope |
| 00:23:40 | Mikachu | / |
| 00:23:43 | Mikachu | to produce that i typed / / |
| 00:23:44 | preglow | i get ambiguous command |
| 00:23:47 | Mikachu | not /say / |
| 00:23:47 | preglow | / |
| 00:23:48 | preglow | ahh, right |
| 00:23:48 | preglow | yeah |
| 00:23:57 | preglow | didn't know about that |
| 00:23:58 | * | preglow hugs irssi |
| 00:24:06 | amiconn | Hydra says unknown command |
| 00:24:10 | tongas | asshole... |
| 00:24:15 | goffa | stupid question alert: does rockbox need a driver for windows 98? |
| 00:24:16 | preglow | a diamond among irc clients |
| 00:24:28 | ender` | amiconn: Ctrl+Enter in Hydra |
| 00:24:34 | goffa | i mean for mass storage or whatever |
| 00:24:36 | ender` | / <- like this |
| 00:24:44 | amiconn | tss tss |
| 00:24:45 | Mikachu | tongas: nobody is saying you're an asshole :) |
| 00:24:47 | Bagder | goffa: rockbox never needs drivers |
| 00:24:51 | preglow | goffa: i've even bumped into windows xp boxes where it needs a driver... |
| 00:24:51 | Bagder | goffa: but windows might |
| 00:25:06 | goffa | that's what i mean |
| 00:25:16 | Bagder | goffa: for what player |
| 00:25:17 | Bagder | ? |
| 00:25:24 | goffa | well h140... |
| 00:25:25 | amiconn | Win98 needs drivers for USB MSD |
| 00:25:43 | goffa | amiconn: does one exist? |
| 00:25:56 | preglow | sure |
| 00:26:07 | goffa | can you just use iriver's? |
| 00:26:10 | tongas | ciao! |
| 00:26:39 | amiconn | /me |
| 00:26:42 | amiconn | ah... |
| 00:26:42 | preglow | goffa: iriver's driver is for something different, afaik |
| 00:26:46 | tongas | maybe tomorrow amiconn will have writen some code to shut USBOTG chip off ;) |
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| 00:27:40 | amiconn | Neat feature... |
| 00:27:42 | preglow | what, executables in /dev ?? |
| 00:28:17 | goffa | i don't plan on using it for 98 myself... but i just reccomended the h140 to someone who might |
| 00:28:19 | Bagder | cat: /dev/coffee: No such file or directory |
| 00:28:25 | goffa | and was going to put rockbox on there |
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| 00:28:46 | Bagder | goffa: again, it doesn't matter if he uses rockbox or the original fw |
| 00:28:47 | preglow | goffa: should be entirely possible, but will very probably need a driver |
| 00:29:00 | preglow | but that driver will be very generic |
| 00:29:07 | preglow | and downloadable straight from microsoft |
| 00:29:09 | goffa | ok.. yeah.. that's all i'd need |
| 00:29:32 | goffa | and win98se 2nd party service pack would probably work |
| 00:29:33 | amiconn | preglow: Afaik there are no generic UMS drivers for 98 available |
| 00:29:37 | preglow | amiconn: oh? |
| 00:29:49 | amiconn | ..definitely not from MS |
| 00:29:52 | preglow | then disregard whatever i was saying |
| 00:30:09 | preglow | i haven't used win98, the lord be thanked, for at least 5 years |
| 00:30:20 | goffa | i run into it all the time |
| 00:30:32 | tongas | sorry all, a very last q /IRC tools: is it possible to playback a discussion (typically the logs of Rockbox site) ? |
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| 00:30:57 | preglow | tongas: most irc clients allow you to log realtime, however, there's not much point, since all logs are at rockbox.org/irc |
| 00:30:58 | * | amiconn wonders who actually still uses Win98 for serious purposes |
| 00:31:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | You need at least Win98SE for USB MSD, right? |
| 00:31:18 | petur | yes |
| 00:31:37 | tongas | preglow: yes, but not easy to read... |
| 00:31:37 | preglow | amiconn: it's still a somewhat decent os for nice audio performance |
| 00:31:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | So it kinda depends which edition of Win98 this person has. |
| 00:31:56 | preglow | amiconn: crashes as soon as you sneeze, of course, but allows _really_ low latencies, sometimes even with crap drivers |
| 00:31:58 | amiconn | You can update win98 to win98se |
| 00:32:35 | goffa | yeah.. well i'm assuming se |
| 00:32:36 | * | amiconn wonders where this audio latency problem could be important |
| 00:32:43 | preglow | amiconn: realtime processing |
| 00:32:53 | goffa | but... people around here are cheap |
| 00:32:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:33:16 | preglow | in software synthesis and effects processing it's very important |
| 00:33:16 | goffa | they paid $3000 for their 98 box... so they assume that a new computer is going to be $3000 and isn't going to be any faster |
| 00:33:28 | goffa | kinda like a '57 chevy.. it'll still do 80 down the highway |
| 00:33:29 | preglow | hahah |
| 00:33:44 | amiconn | 80, pfft |
| 00:33:45 | goffa | and you explain moore's law |
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| 00:34:03 | goffa | and show them the $500 emachine |
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| 00:34:11 | preglow | goffa: they're not far wrong anyway, given current software trends |
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| 00:34:13 | goffa | they just don't get it |
| 00:34:23 | preglow | goffa: windows xp isn't exactly greased lightning on my 2ghz++ cpu |
| 00:34:34 | goffa | not saying that |
| 00:34:46 | goffa | os has nothing to do with computer speed |
| 00:34:52 | preglow | sure, no, but the os is all people see |
| 00:34:57 | goffa | yeah |
| 00:35:03 | preglow | if that's slow, then the computer is slow for all intents and purposes |
| 00:35:11 | goffa | and you certainly aren't going to convince them to use linux |
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| 00:35:14 | preglow | haha |
| 00:35:19 | preglow | i use linux/gnome |
| 00:35:25 | preglow | and it's not exactly blazing away either |
| 00:35:31 | goffa | yeah... |
| 00:35:35 | Mikachu | gnome is like xp opensourced |
| 00:35:37 | Mikachu | :) |
| 00:35:42 | | Part Zaghurim |
| 00:35:46 | preglow | though i do know of faster stuff, of course |
| 00:35:47 | goffa | linux and openbox with cli and gnome aps (mostly) |
| 00:35:51 | preglow | but i like gnome |
| 00:35:56 | Mikachu | goffa: hooray |
| 00:35:58 | preglow | i might switch to xfce some day |
| 00:36:01 | GebWuest01 | give XFCE a try−−nicce and snappy |
| 00:36:12 | preglow | yeah, xfce isn't bad at all |
| 00:36:16 | preglow | i run that on my arch install |
| 00:36:24 | goffa | yeah.. been tempted to try xubuntu on my desktop |
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| 00:36:28 | goffa | running lfs on there now |
| 00:36:28 | markun | I use it too |
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| 00:36:46 | mongey | ok |
| 00:36:50 | preglow | only thing i've got against it is that the window decorations are ugly as hell |
| 00:37:01 | goffa | yeah |
| 00:37:01 | mongey | i still cant compile rockbox |
| 00:37:02 | * | Paul_The_Nerd sighs. |
| 00:37:05 | mongey | but i can compile rockbox on my laptop |
| 00:37:06 | preglow | you've got a choice of a hundred bitch ugly window decorations |
| 00:37:17 | GebWuest01 | yeah for sure not as pretty as gnome |
| 00:37:18 | goffa | yeah.. and you could make your own if you were an artist :) |
| 00:37:27 | * | preglow pats Paul_The_Nerd |
| 00:37:29 | * | Aghaster uses gnome |
| 00:37:34 | goffa | and steal the gnome icons if you prefer that |
| 00:37:36 | nuknuk | got a quick question, if im to update my rockbox install on my iriver, can i just follow the normal installation instructions and expect it to install properly and keep my settings, or do I have to follow a special instruction? |
| 00:37:43 | mongey | so its something wrong with this computer |
| 00:37:43 | Aghaster | but i agree XFCE is pretty. |
| 00:37:49 | Mikachu | nuknuk: just unzip the zip |
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| 00:38:37 | nuknuk | Mikachu, wouldnt that overwrite my old rockbox install settings though? |
| 00:38:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I've got like, 27 accounts waiting for activation on the forums, some over two weeks since they first signed up. As well, there were over 55 in the list, but most of the ones I cleared were things like viagra_king@mail.ru (mail.ru being responsible already for 3 of the 4 spammings we've had in the last couple weeks) |
| 00:38:51 | Mikachu | nuknuk: no, shouldn't |
| 00:38:59 | nuknuk | i'm trying to update from one rockbox to another, not from iriver to rockbox |
| 00:39:00 | Mikachu | nuknuk: you have my halfhearted promise |
| 00:39:00 | petur | nuknuk: it's always recommended to export your settings to a cfg in case the settings block is updated |
| 00:39:02 | GebWuest01 | 3.53 of KDE seems lots faster as well, really comming along.. |
| 00:39:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm wondering what the cutoff point should be for someone who never activates. |
| 00:39:08 | nuknuk | ah alright |
| 00:39:14 | Mikachu | yeah what petur said |
| 00:39:15 | nuknuk | Mikachu, i can't ask for more than that :P |
| 00:39:24 | Mikachu | but all highscores should be in separate files that aren't in the zip |
| 00:40:20 | nuknuk | well then, sounds worth trying then :) |
| 00:40:35 | nuknuk | i sure hope the display disappearing on my remote is a fixed bug rather than my remote dying though :O |
| 00:40:54 | GebWuest01 | anyway enuff of my pointless spam−−just popped in to say thanks to rockbox Devs for making such a kickass product!! |
| 00:41:57 | * | petur must learn to rolo when debugging a newer build |
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| 00:43:34 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: forums require manual activation now? |
| 00:43:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: No, they send an email to the user, and the user clicks "Activate my account" |
| 00:44:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are 27 people who haven't done so. |
| 00:44:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Some of which have received a reminder email. |
| 00:45:02 | Bagder | speaking of users, lowlight has now joined the hall of fame and glory |
| 00:45:13 | Bagder | == commit access |
| 00:45:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, he gets a badge? |
| 00:46:05 | | Quit nuknuk () |
| 00:46:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Alrighty, one more for the list. |
| 00:46:24 | Bagder | no, he gets to do a lot of work! |
| 00:46:30 | Bagder | :-) |
| 00:46:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heheeh |
| 00:47:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, I've decided to order my own e200. I decided Rockbox or not, I like the hardware. ;) |
| 00:48:17 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:48:31 | preglow | w00t |
| 00:48:41 | earHertz | I know it's agauinst teh guidelines to uinclude apps functions in formware code. But I want to use gui_syncsplash in teh firmware code, just to debug. Is there a way to include it? |
| 00:48:50 | preglow | no |
| 00:49:18 | petur | sure it is... |
| 00:49:19 | earHertz | what about in the hreader in export? |
| 00:49:22 | preglow | that is |
| 00:49:25 | preglow | if you don't mind hacks |
| 00:49:28 | Bagder | isn't logf() good enough? |
| 00:49:29 | hardeep | for debugging, just call it |
| 00:49:43 | hardeep | you'll get a warning but it'll work fine |
| 00:49:43 | earHertz | Bagder: no, I want to see it in real time |
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| 00:50:00 | preglow | hardeep: will it? i could have sworn i tried that several times |
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| 00:50:06 | preglow | i can see no reason it won't, of course... |
| 00:50:10 | earHertz | hardeep: it'll still link? |
| 00:50:19 | earHertz | even though it uses varargs? |
| 00:50:20 | hardeep | the old splash() code definitely worked correctly, i'd assume the gui_splash does too |
| 00:50:24 | preglow | earHertz: it doesn't need to link, the firmware dir is a library |
| 00:50:43 | petur | I used it some time ago when checking the fat driver |
| 00:50:43 | snex | does anybody know if theres a project on making a GUI installer for rockbox? |
| 00:50:46 | preglow | at linking time, all functions are present |
| 00:50:52 | preglow | snex: kind of |
| 00:51:04 | preglow | did christi ever release the source code for her tool? |
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| 00:51:18 | snex | preglow cuz i was considering doing one, it seems pretty simple to achieve |
| 00:51:28 | preglow | snex: depends how much you want to cover |
| 00:52:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: I'm disappointed. I felt I was being quite pessimistic in what I thought you would receive in the package, and it was even less than what I guessed. |
| 00:52:33 | snex | ive only put it on an ipod, so i dunno how easy/hard the other installers are |
| 00:52:46 | Bagder | yeah |
| 00:52:49 | Bagder | pity really |
| 00:52:54 | Bagder | but I'm nagging them |
| 00:53:31 | earHertz | god, my presient makes fun of a blind reportyeter and then chuckles like beavis and butthead |
| 00:53:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm kinda surprised they sent you two different capacity players. I would've expected them all to be 2gb models. |
| 00:53:51 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: really? i was expecting pretty much what we got, heh |
| 00:54:04 | preglow | perhaps that doesn't bode well for me |
| 00:54:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Since they said "Some" instead of "A couple" I expected 3-4 players. |
| 00:54:54 | preglow | i was most certainly hoping for it |
| 00:55:06 | preglow | but what i wasn't hoping for at all was a devkit |
| 00:55:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 00:55:22 | preglow | i'm still holding my breath there |
| 00:55:35 | preglow | some portalplayer info would be pure magic |
| 00:55:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder if we could at least get some code for the firmware updating .exe, or at least a description of what exactly it does. |
| 00:55:39 | | Quit jaebird (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:55:53 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: if we don't, they can't expect very much, that's for sure |
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| 00:56:05 | preglow | that'd be the pure bloody minimum i'd expect them to give us |
| 00:56:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | They can expect plenty, but not *reasonably* |
| 00:56:57 | preglow | well, i'm just hopinf for some sweet, sweet portalplayer info |
| 00:57:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm quite sure you are. |
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| 00:58:14 | preglow | no need for doubt here, i can supply signed "hell yeah" certificates proving i am |
| 00:58:25 | XavierGr | hardeep here? |
| 00:58:29 | earHertz | why am I getting "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/ipod," when I try to mount the ipod? |
| 00:58:37 | preglow | along with pictures of myself with an enthusiastic smile |
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| 00:58:46 | XavierGr | hardeep: I think you commited the old version of iCacther. |
| 00:58:56 | XavierGr | Ah welcome Genre9mp3! |
| 00:59:03 | preglow | the new version wasn't in the tracker? |
| 00:59:07 | Genre9mp3 | Hi there! |
| 00:59:15 | XavierGr | it was |
| 00:59:18 | Genre9mp3 | Wow...That's great news!!!! |
| 00:59:18 | preglow | right |
| 00:59:24 | preglow | well, just commit the new one, then |
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| 00:59:27 | preglow | small problem |
| 00:59:30 | XavierGr | yes |
| 00:59:37 | XavierGr | I am just mentioning it. |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:01 | XavierGr | Hardeep has to do that though, I don't have CVS access :p |
| 01:00:12 | Genre9mp3 | I'm simply speechless about the last commit! :D |
| 01:00:16 | preglow | hahah |
| 01:00:24 | preglow | it's great work |
| 01:00:25 | preglow | congrats |
| 01:00:36 | crashd | a wps, eh? |
| 01:00:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have we ever actually tried contacting PortalPlayer? I mean, it's unlikely to succeed, but it also can't really hurt, right? |
| 01:01:18 | Bagder | I'm quite sure no Rockbox person ever did |
| 01:01:21 | amiconn | ugh |
| 01:01:27 | Genre9mp3 | Thank you very much preglow...I really really appreciate this! :D |
| 01:01:28 | hardeep | XavierGr: hmmm, i thought i grabbed the right version |
| 01:01:32 | amiconn | The front page is looooooong now |
| 01:01:40 | crashd | that is a sweet wps, i hate to say |
| 01:01:44 | crashd | have to |
| 01:01:58 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i think no one has |
| 01:02:03 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: feel free to, though :> |
| 01:02:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 01:02:27 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: Thanx for the commit! :D |
| 01:02:44 | petur | build table now truly looks like modern art |
| 01:02:53 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: just be sure to remind them of how badly it must suck for them losing the ipod deal and all |
| 01:03:00 | crashd | heh |
| 01:03:02 | crashd | goad the buggers |
| 01:03:02 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: and that we are probably their only way out of this |
| 01:03:12 | XavierGr | hardeep: the new version has black letters instead of gray. See the tracker, the new version is in the last comment |
| 01:04:23 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11771 |
| 01:04:39 | hardeep | blah, my bad |
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| 01:05:19 | hardeep | is it just the bmps that are incorrect? |
| 01:05:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: I figure there's probably a good way to frame it as "Beneficial to PortalPlayer" so I'll try to draft something, and run it by you guys once I've got a good idea what I think might actually at least have them think for a few seconds about it. |
| 01:05:39 | XavierGr | hardeep I am nnot sure, ask Genre9mp3. |
| 01:06:16 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: which one is supposed to be commited? The white one or the defult colours one? |
| 01:06:17 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: sounds wonderful |
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| 01:06:29 | hardeep | Genre9mp3: default colors |
| 01:06:45 | hardeep | i missed the last version, took the one just before |
| 01:06:49 | Genre9mp3 | Ok then it's : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11771 |
| 01:07:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | While some player manufacturers are nervous about third-party firmware, others such as Sandisk are already moving to support them, and with PortalPlayer support in Rockbox, the PortalPlayer SoCs will look even more favourable to those manufacturers who see this trend starting. Or something like that. I'll work on it. :) |
| 01:07:21 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: Again, thanx for the commit... :D |
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| 01:07:56 | hardeep | Genre9mp3: it's a great wps! (my default) |
| 01:08:20 | Genre9mp3 | BTW, the different font issue is OK now? |
| 01:08:20 | hardeep | i've almost completed the changes to make it the system default as well... |
| 01:08:34 | hardeep | yeah, the script now supports multiple fonts |
| 01:08:39 | XavierGr | wow! :) |
| 01:08:41 | Genre9mp3 | sweet... |
| 01:08:57 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep:almost completed? |
| 01:09:17 | Genre9mp3 | that's great news!!!! |
| 01:09:19 | * | amiconn wonders why some items are displayed twice in iCatcher |
| 01:09:53 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: There are actually 2 different versions, iCatcher & UniCatcher |
| 01:09:59 | preglow | is the battery percentage still there? |
| 01:10:22 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: see this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11671 |
| 01:10:25 | amiconn | I mean battery percentage and battery symbol; numeric volume and volume icon |
| 01:10:38 | petur | maybe a bit late, but I'd rather have song title in the middle as well, not the genre |
| 01:10:53 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: Oh |
| 01:10:53 | preglow | i still don't like the battery percentage being displayed where it is |
| 01:11:09 | tucoz | petur: I think that is fixed in the proper version |
| 01:11:15 | petur | oh |
| 01:11:16 | hardeep | yeah, it is |
| 01:11:16 | tucoz | that should be committed |
| 01:11:18 | preglow | if it should be displayed at all (which i think it shouldn't), it should be close to the graphical battery display |
| 01:11:43 | hardeep | i personally like the numeric values for battery and volume |
| 01:11:46 | * | petur probably runs an old version (several versions ago) |
| 01:11:49 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: I made it this way for symmetry reasons |
| 01:11:55 | XavierGr | yes I agree with hardeep. |
| 01:12:07 | XavierGr | Icons to be sleak and numbers to be precise |
| 01:12:10 | hardeep | XavierGr/Genre9mp3: please confirm it's the correct version now |
| 01:12:12 | XavierGr | sleek that is |
| 01:12:44 | hardeep | afk for a bit |
| 01:13:05 | amiconn | Hmm, I definitely like the white version better than the blueish one |
| 01:13:28 | tucoz | but the white is less rockboxish |
| 01:14:33 | preglow | i don't really think the current rockbox colours should be mandatory in any way... |
| 01:14:45 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: I'm checking right now... |
| 01:15:01 | tucoz | I think they should. For a default theme at least. |
| 01:15:50 | preglow | where'd those colours come from anyway? the web site? |
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| 01:16:18 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: Tes the light blue of the web site |
| 01:16:22 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 01:16:24 | Hames | where can i find the iPod Updater? |
| 01:16:25 | tucoz | heaven knows. My girlfriend hates "that blue screen" :) |
| 01:16:37 | Hames | when im trying to install rockbox it says i need the firmware and some file on the bak folder |
| 01:16:39 | preglow | i don't think it's the nicest colour ever myself |
| 01:16:40 | Hames | i dont know where to get that file |
| 01:16:55 | preglow | it's pretty arbitrarily chosen, i'd guess, so let graphic designers just come up with what they want |
| 01:17:03 | preglow | perhaps someone will come up with a better scheme |
| 01:17:27 | Hames | anyone? |
| 01:17:38 | preglow | the ipod updater is on the apple site |
| 01:17:41 | tucoz | sure. but a the current colour theme is pretty much part of the rockbox graphic profile |
| 01:18:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: Which installation instructions are you following? |
| 01:18:24 | Hames | but it says to put it on the bak folder, i dont want to actually update it |
| 01:18:31 | Hames | Rockbox Installer v7.7 |
| 01:18:42 | preglow | if we are to have a graphic profile, i'd like it better if it was something better thought out than just whatever colour scheme we used on our web site at one time |
| 01:18:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, see, that's not official in the slightest, so ask wherever you found the installer. |
| 01:19:02 | Hames | this installer is simple though |
| 01:19:09 | Hames | it asks me if i already have ipod linux |
| 01:19:11 | Hames | and other stuff |
| 01:19:23 | Hames | Ipod Linux users: |
| 01:19:23 | Hames | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- |
| 01:19:23 | Hames | If you are using iPod Linux, you must first extract an unmodified firmware image from the Apple iPod Update Utility. |
| 01:19:23 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Hames |
| 01:19:23 | Hames | For this I recommend you download the iPod Wizard program (http://www.ipodwizard.net/). |
| 01:19:23 | Hames | Extract it, open the last updater you used on your iPod, click on the "Updater" tab, and extract the appropriate |
| 01:19:25 | Hames | firmware binary for your iPod to the "bak" folder of this installer. |
| 01:19:27 | Genre9mp3 | Speaking of colours, we can have the white version and other colour variations as well in the site for download... |
| 01:19:36 | Hames | "open the last updater you used on your ipo" <−−how do i do that |
| 01:19:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: Simple or not, it's not one of our softwares, so ask whoever made the installer. |
| 01:20:13 | Hames | but the instructions are the same as yours for ipod linux users |
| 01:20:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | You're using a program. |
| 01:20:34 | preglow | tucoz: sure, i just don't think we should elect a blue variation the default one just becuase it somehow being the "rockbox coloured" one. we should choose whatever looks best |
| 01:20:48 | earHertz | hardeep: calling gui_synspalsh from get_button freezes teh ipod |
| 01:20:52 | preglow | that of course being subjective... |
| 01:21:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: The "installer" was not written by us. What does it matter if the program works the same way for installing Linux and Rockbox. Ask who wrote the program, not who wrote what it installs. |
| 01:21:29 | preglow | earHertz: get_button? |
| 01:21:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: Do you ask a musician why a CD Ripper doesn't work, or the person who wrote the CD Ripper? |
| 01:21:34 | preglow | earHertz: nothing is called that |
| 01:21:41 | earHertz | button_get |
| 01:21:52 | earHertz | dorry, I'm a C++ programmer :) |
| 01:21:52 | Hames | if the instructions are the same then yes. |
| 01:22:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: The same as what? |
| 01:22:18 | Hames | as your version of the installer |
| 01:22:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | We do not HAVE an installer |
| 01:22:31 | Hames | then how do you put rockbox in there? |
| 01:22:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's their other version of the installer |
| 01:22:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 01:22:44 | Hames | dont you guys have it so you have to compile your own with 3 files or something. |
| 01:23:10 | Hames | yea thats the one |
| 01:23:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | So what installer are you asking about? |
| 01:23:30 | tucoz | preglow: i agree with you, although i think the default theme should look rockboxish. and without the colours, icatcher doesn't (imo). |
| 01:23:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because the only programs there are ipod_fw and ipodpatcher |
| 01:23:37 | XavierGr | why bleeding edge isn't updated? |
| 01:23:42 | Hames | both say if you have ipod linux, go to ipodwizard..blabla bla... |
| 01:24:00 | preglow | tucoz: of course it doesn't, it's not light blue, which i don't think is very important at all :) |
| 01:24:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: They don't say the exact same thing. |
| 01:24:11 | tucoz | probably nothing in that commit triggered a cvs to build |
| 01:24:11 | Hames | i dont know how to extract the firmware image |
| 01:24:14 | Hames | do you knw how? |
| 01:24:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: If you follow the directions explicitly, it happens. |
| 01:24:24 | Hames | using ipodwizard |
| 01:24:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: You may notice it says that the ipodwizard was is an alternative |
| 01:24:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | At least at our page. |
| 01:24:54 | Hames | ok..so how else would i get the firmware? |
| 01:25:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Follow our instructions. |
| 01:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | EVERY step tells you exactly what to type there. |
| 01:25:16 | Hames | .2) (iPodLinux users only) Extract an unmodified firmware image |
| 01:25:24 | Hames | according to your instructions, it tells me to do it that way. |
| 01:25:29 | Hames | thats theo nly other way i see for ipod linux users |
| 01:25:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay |
| 01:25:49 | tucoz | preglow: you win ;) |
| 01:25:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, then you use iPodWizard |
| 01:26:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which isn't our software |
| 01:26:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | So if you can't figure out iPodWizard, go read its instructions. |
| 01:26:13 | tucoz | i am too tired to come up with good arguments |
| 01:26:19 | preglow | haha |
| 01:26:22 | tucoz | ...for the rockbox colours |
| 01:26:34 | XavierGr | the bleeding edge is clearly an old one. |
| 01:26:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: Why don't we start again. What *exactly* can't you figure out? |
| 01:27:03 | tucoz | XavierGr: I do not think that a wps commit will trigger the build server to start building |
| 01:27:09 | tucoz | not sure though |
| 01:27:17 | Hames | how to get the firmware |
| 01:27:24 | XavierGr | then maybe I told hardeep something wrong... :( |
| 01:27:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: That's a very vague part. |
| 01:27:37 | XavierGr | I will update via vmware and build a full zip then |
| 01:27:37 | Hames | ok |
| 01:27:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: You know to use iPodWizard. So, have you tried iPodWizard with an official ipod firmware update? |
| 01:27:50 | Hames | how to get the firmware so i can load it in order to install rockbox |
| 01:27:56 | Hames | nope |
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| 01:28:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, so the instructions tell you to do that. |
| 01:28:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | And you don't. |
| 01:28:18 | tucoz | good night |
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| 01:28:35 | Hames | i think i figured it out |
| 01:28:39 | Hames | ok i gtg to work |
| 01:28:40 | Hames | thanks for help |
| 01:28:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hames: The page says "extract an unmodified firmware image from the Apple iPod Update utility using the iPod Wizard program" |
| 01:29:01 | Hames | yea |
| 01:29:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | I would suggest trying what the page says *before* you ask for help, as sometimes it actually works. |
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| 01:35:06 | preglow | improbable! |
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| 01:38:53 | XavierGr | argh!!! |
| 01:39:00 | XavierGr | ROLO error: Checksum error |
| 01:40:51 | XavierGr | silly me I built for an H100 not the H300 I was testing :| |
| 01:41:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 01:41:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sounds like something I would do. |
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| 01:41:22 | * | preglow thanks petur for the sorely needed code policiing |
| 01:41:34 | * | amiconn has a whole bunch of build dirs for different targets & sims |
| 01:41:43 | * | preglow too |
| 01:42:25 | * | Paul_The_Nerd only has a few |
| 01:42:44 | * | Genre9mp3 too (for the sims) |
| 01:42:45 | XavierGr | amiconn: me too |
| 01:42:51 | Genre9mp3 | :P |
| 01:42:56 | XavierGr | I just reconfigured and selected another number |
| 01:45:35 | XavierGr | ah now it is nice, but why the blue one :p |
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| 01:47:51 | Genre9mp3 | BTW, Today I was on the train and I realised that a track in my music collection is titled "Rock Box" |
| 01:48:08 | dj-fu | highfive |
| 01:48:21 | Genre9mp3 | ...And it's a very nice instrumental one! :) |
| 01:50:57 | Genre9mp3 | It's from "True Obsessions" album by "Marty Friedman"... |
| 01:53:39 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 01:53:52 | preglow | "morning" |
| 01:54:34 | * | JdGordon is happy :D gettting my h300 usbotg-able next week and a remote sometime soon also :D |
| 01:54:58 | preglow | how's your h300 getting usbotg-able? |
| 01:55:58 | JdGordon | the hardware mod for the us version |
| 01:56:20 | JdGordon | to power the 2nd usb port |
| 01:56:27 | JdGordon | stupid us version |
| 01:58:22 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 01:58:33 | petur | 'night all |
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| 02:20:23 | dj-fu | any ideas what would cause my windows partition not to recognize the filesystem on my ipod? |
| 02:20:27 | dj-fu | it has music and shit on it, running rockbox |
| 02:20:40 | dj-fu | but when i plug it in for drive mode it doesn't work (retail firmware & rb fw) |
| 02:20:45 | dj-fu | probly a windows issue yeah? |
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| 02:29:20 | hardeep | earHertz: try calling splash() instead of the gui version... maybe the multiple screen handling doesn't work |
| 02:29:57 | hardeep | so, consensus seems to be that the white version of iCatcher is better... i prefer that one myself, just didn't want to mess with defaults |
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| 02:33:00 | earHertz | hardeep: thanks, I just went ahead and put the call in in apps/gui/list.c |
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| 02:33:42 | dj-fu | ;( |
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| 02:34:05 | dj-fu | anyone know what would cause me not able to see the fat32 partition on my ipod with windows, but linux mounts it fine? |
| 02:34:45 | earHertz | is there something similar to gui_syncsplash, that will just overwrite whats on teh screen, without rtestoring the old screen? |
| 02:35:06 | earHertz | like putsxy, but without having to have a pointre to a screen? |
| 02:35:08 | XavierGr | hardeep: then go for the white one :p |
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| 02:36:19 | hardeep | if no one complains, i'd actually like to change the default color to white as well instead of this "rockbox blue" |
| 02:36:40 | dj-fu | what about black? |
| 02:36:52 | dj-fu | black w/ white text wins |
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| 02:44:24 | fiftyfour123 | port rockobx to HFS+ |
| 02:44:36 | fiftyfour123 | and i'll give everyone involed a cookie :D |
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| 03:30:53 | gpoo | hey |
| 03:31:08 | gpoo | hmm my ipod mini kept blipblip blip and know it won't turn on |
| 03:31:18 | gpoo | when I pluged in usb |
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| 03:37:13 | gpoo | can rockbox run psp |
| 03:37:25 | gpoo | is thier any unoffical psp open source firmware |
| 03:39:41 | sharpe | gpoo, no. |
| 03:41:07 | webguest06 | how do you patch a build that you already have |
| 03:41:12 | webguest06 | like one that you downloaded? |
| 03:41:18 | Mikachu | you don't |
| 03:41:39 | webguest06 | there has to be a way |
| 03:41:43 | webguest06 | like a patched build |
| 03:41:49 | webguest06 | that you dont want to start over with |
| 03:41:53 | sharpe | no. there is no way to patch a build, that is already built. |
| 03:42:06 | webguest06 | why? |
| 03:42:17 | sharpe | that's the way things work. |
| 03:42:19 | Mikachu | because that is the way god created the earth |
| 03:42:22 | JdGordon | well.. there is.. u recompile it and then do a diff on the 2 binaries... |
| 03:42:29 | JdGordon | and then patch it |
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| 03:42:38 | sharpe | JdGordon: ssh, don't tell them that. |
| 03:42:42 | Mikachu | you could just keep the second binary |
| 03:42:47 | Mikachu | it isn't what he wants to do |
| 03:43:06 | JdGordon | i know :D |
| 03:43:47 | webguest06 | can you tell me how to do that? |
| 03:43:55 | webguest06 | recompile it and then do a diff on the 2 binaries... |
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| 03:45:10 | Mikachu | see, now you gave him crazy ideas |
| 03:45:20 | JdGordon | hehe |
| 03:45:27 | sharpe | i told you... :D |
| 03:48:05 | hardeep | okay, hopefully the last big commit i need to do |
| 03:48:34 | sharpe | are you sure? |
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| 03:49:07 | sharpe | oops... hehe... |
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| 03:52:04 | wats | hi ya |
| 03:52:31 | wats | wats wit these irc channels |
| 03:53:02 | Mikachu | was that a self introduction or a question? |
| 03:53:16 | wats | maybe both |
| 03:53:17 | scorche | lol....i was thinking the same thing |
| 03:53:17 | wats | hi |
| 03:53:20 | sharpe | well, they're places people can talk, and ask questions. like, we can give help to people having troubles with rockbox. |
| 03:53:32 | wats | k |
| 03:53:37 | Mikachu | or sometimes if we feel grumpy, we'll just make snide remarks and laugh at you |
| 03:53:42 | wats | i dont really have troubles wit it |
| 03:53:43 | sharpe | that too. |
| 03:54:08 | wats | do any of u guys also have Ipod linux on |
| 03:54:22 | wats | ur ipod |
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| 03:54:32 | sharpe | well, that's somewhat implied |
| 03:54:50 | wats | I have it, on my Video Ipod, and i'm not able to listen to music wit it |
| 03:55:15 | wats | is it just me, or is that the version |
| 03:55:41 | sharpe | we're not the ipodlinux irc channel... but; why not use rockbox if you wish to play your music? :) |
| 03:56:08 | wats | battery life, i heard it cuts the battery from 14 to 5 hours |
| 03:56:18 | wats | and the ipod linux room is completely quiet |
| 03:56:24 | wats | i tried there for a while |
| 03:56:31 | wats | but nobody responded |
| 03:57:15 | webguest06 | i had iPl |
| 03:57:20 | webguest06 | but i found it to be useless |
| 03:57:27 | webguest06 | and after i had it |
| 03:57:29 | webguest06 | my ipod broke |
| 03:57:32 | webguest06 | so i put rockbox on |
| 03:57:37 | webguest06 | cuz it takes like 5mins to install |
| 03:57:41 | wats | i'm wonderin if it is |
| 03:57:42 | Mikachu | after rock doom there was no point in ipl :) |
| 03:57:43 | webguest06 | and iPl took me like 2 days |
| 03:57:46 | wats | both do |
| 03:57:48 | webguest06 | its not worth it |
| 03:57:51 | webguest06 | for the 5G |
| 03:57:52 | webguest06 | yet |
| 03:57:53 | webguest06 | anyway |
| 03:57:54 | | Quit sharpe` () |
| 03:58:00 | Mikachu | if i had an ipod video it might be fun with the wikipedia, but it's a waste with my 2GB nano |
| 03:58:01 | wats | ipl takes like 5 minutes |
| 03:58:12 | wats | all u have to do |
| 03:58:19 | wats | is use the offical installer |
| 03:58:23 | wats | bam, ur down |
| 03:58:24 | wats | done |
| 03:58:26 | webguest06 | you have to boot into a LinuxLive CD |
| 03:58:31 | wats | nope |
| 03:58:32 | webguest06 | but they dont have an installer |
| 03:58:34 | scorche | you can type things in one line ya know... =P |
| 03:58:35 | webguest06 | for the 5G yet |
| 03:58:38 | wats | ya they do |
| 03:58:42 | wats | it works perfectly |
| 03:58:48 | wats | it works for me |
| 03:58:53 | wats | it just asks u |
| 03:58:55 | Mikachu | scorche: apparently not |
| 03:58:59 | wats | to delete all ur songs |
| 03:59:01 | sharpe | scorche: it lessens the excitement on one line. :) |
| 03:59:08 | webguest06 | lol |
| 03:59:10 | wats | LMFAO |
| 03:59:18 | wats | of cousre, its alot better like this |
| 03:59:27 | wats | and i get quick responses too |
| 03:59:31 | scorche | if |
| 03:59:32 | scorche | you |
| 03:59:33 | scorche | say |
| 03:59:34 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK scorche |
| 03:59:34 | scorche | so |
| 03:59:37 | wats | i do |
| 03:59:41 | scorche | o |
| 03:59:41 | scorche | k |
| 03:59:50 | sharpe | anyway, wats, do you have anything pertaining to rockbox we may help you with? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:27 | wats | hmmmm, idk , rockbox is pretty stable |
| 04:00:32 | wats | o ya |
| 04:00:34 | wats | i have one |
| 04:00:42 | scorche | ugh.... |
| 04:00:54 | wats | can rockbox read the music put on the ipod by itunes |
| 04:01:03 | Mikachu | wow, long one |
| 04:01:03 | sharpe | wats: only if you use tagcache. |
| 04:01:19 | Mikachu | you can add the folder recursively and play shuffle in normal mode |
| 04:01:29 | wats | k |
| 04:01:30 | Mikachu | damn you people, now i say folder instead of directory |
| 04:01:32 | wats | thanks alot |
| 04:01:37 | wats | HAHAHAHAH |
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| 04:01:50 | wats | well i'm goina leave u guys |
| 04:01:52 | scorche | quite the laugh there |
| 04:01:56 | sharpe | hey, we offer support, and entertain. |
| 04:01:57 | wats | good job and thanks |
| 04:01:59 | wats | hahahaha |
| 04:02:03 | wats | BYE BYE |
| 04:02:07 | sharpe | goodbye. |
| 04:02:09 | Mikachu | moOOOooooOOOoooOOOoooOOOoooOOOooooOOoooOOooooOOOo |
| 04:02:10 | | Quit wats () |
| 04:02:37 | sharpe | that was... odd, but alright. |
| 04:03:02 | Mikachu | better than a fork in the eye |
| 04:03:12 | scorche | or a rusty spoon for that matter |
| 04:03:19 | sharpe | or any object really. |
| 04:04:56 | Mikachu | fotons are alright |
| 04:05:13 | sharpe | the bed/couch thing? |
| 04:05:48 | Mikachu | no... light particles |
| 04:05:57 | Mikachu | the sleep thing is futon i believe |
| 04:05:58 | sharpe | those are photons. |
| 04:06:10 | Mikachu | you english and your crazy spelling |
| 04:06:18 | sharpe | we don't talk phonetically here. |
| 04:06:23 | sharpe | :D |
| 04:06:42 | Mikachu | it just so happens to be foton in swedish |
| 04:06:56 | sharpe | futon or photon? |
| 04:07:01 | Mikachu | haha, photon |
| 04:07:05 | sharpe | alright. |
| 04:07:27 | scorche | o_O |
| 04:08:06 | webguest06 | isnt this the rockbox IRC? |
| 04:08:09 | webguest06 | not the FUTON>? |
| 04:08:22 | Rick | who said a channel has to stay within its topic? |
| 04:08:24 | Mikachu | this is what is usually referred to as offtopic talk |
| 04:08:41 | sharpe | yeah, it's the rockbox irc channel, but at the moment there is no one to help, so we discuss off-topic things. such as futons and photons. |
| 04:08:57 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 04:08:57 | * | Rick bounces |
| 04:09:03 | sharpe | saying photons are alright, is like saying atoms are good. |
| 04:09:13 | Rick | naw |
| 04:09:15 | Rick | atoms are neutral |
| 04:09:17 | Mikachu | pointless? |
| 04:09:23 | sharpe | pretty much? |
| 04:09:39 | Mikachu | okay? |
| 04:09:44 | Mikachu | question mark hour? |
| 04:09:50 | scorche | maybe? |
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| 04:09:53 | Rick | no |
| 04:09:54 | Rick | :P |
| 04:09:58 | scorche | loser? |
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| 04:10:05 | Rick | winner |
| 04:10:11 | scorche | nay? |
| 04:10:12 | Mikachu | wiener |
| 04:10:13 | sharpe | meanie? |
| 04:10:14 | scorche | i say? |
| 04:10:19 | Mikachu | weiner? |
| 04:10:21 | * | Rick shakes fist |
| 04:10:24 | fiftyfour123 | port rockbox to HFS+ |
| 04:10:27 | Mikachu | put that fist down |
| 04:10:30 | scorche | no? |
| 04:10:31 | Mikachu | fiftyfour123: or what? |
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| 04:10:33 | Rick | fiftyfour123: donate the hardware to one of the devs |
| 04:10:34 | sharpe | fiftyfour123: be our guest |
| 04:10:39 | fiftyfour123 | if you do, i'll give you a cookie |
| 04:10:46 | fiftyfour123 | :D |
| 04:10:56 | scorche | Rick: what hardware are you speaking of? |
| 04:10:59 | sharpe | hmm... an interesting deal. what kind of cookie? |
| 04:11:08 | Rick | I assumed HFS+ was some sort of dap |
| 04:11:14 | scorche | >_> |
| 04:11:16 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:11:17 | sharpe | it's a file system... |
| 04:11:17 | fiftyfour123 | umm |
| 04:11:20 | fiftyfour123 | sugar cookie |
| 04:11:23 | sharpe | score! |
| 04:11:23 | Rick | oh :P |
| 04:11:26 | sharpe | i'm on it! |
| 04:11:30 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:11:34 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 04:11:35 | Rick | I stand corrected |
| 04:11:50 | scorche | more like re-aligned |
| 04:12:46 | Rick | what is HFS+ used by? |
| 04:12:50 | fiftyfour123 | how do you do the thing where it was like rick shakes fist? |
| 04:12:51 | scorche | apple |
| 04:12:57 | Rick | ah |
| 04:13:03 | scorche | fiftyfour123: /me <blah> |
| 04:13:13 | fiftyfour123 | /me <blah> |
| 04:13:16 | * | sharpe searches for something to port to rockbox |
| 04:13:18 | fiftyfour123 | ? |
| 04:13:24 | fiftyfour123 | it didnt work |
| 04:13:29 | * | Rick hands sharpe an encyclopedia |
| 04:13:29 | Mikachu | without the space |
| 04:13:29 | sharpe | without the space? |
| 04:13:30 | scorche | fiftyfour123: minus the space ;) |
| 04:13:37 | Mikachu | redundancy? |
| 04:13:43 | sharpe | definitely? |
| 04:13:48 | scorche | it ispossible? |
| 04:13:54 | sharpe | most definitely. |
| 04:14:34 | sharpe | Rick: i was looking for something more, game-like. |
| 04:14:54 | scorche | sharpe: dig-dug |
| 04:15:15 | fiftyfour123 | it still didnt work it said unknown command |
| 04:15:15 | * | scorche misses that game |
| 04:15:26 | sharpe | how about something i remember playing? :) |
| 04:15:37 | scorche | sharpe: young'un |
| 04:15:38 | Rick | sharpe: I figured as much |
| 04:15:58 | sharpe | actually, i did play dig-dug, but still. |
| 04:16:04 | fiftyfour123 | wait i cant do the thing |
| 04:16:11 | fiftyfour123 | it doesnt work |
| 04:16:16 | fiftyfour123 | it says unknown command |
| 04:16:32 | Mikachu | oh no, everyone stop what you're doing and help fiftyfour123 do the thing |
| 04:16:41 | Rick | fiftyfour123: what client are you using? |
| 04:17:04 | sharpe | telnet! |
| 04:17:09 | fiftyfour123 | chatzilla |
| 04:17:18 | fiftyfour123 | =firefox plugin |
| 04:17:29 | Rick | try /action #rockbox your text |
| 04:17:31 | * | Rick shrugs |
| 04:17:47 | scorche | could try /em as well |
| 04:17:53 | scorche | although /me is quite common |
| 04:17:57 | * | fiftyfour123 ghxdf |
| 04:17:59 | fiftyfour123 | yay |
| 04:18:01 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:18:05 | Rick | which one was it? |
| 04:18:10 | fiftyfour123 | it was "/me text" |
| 04:18:14 | fiftyfour123 | without quotes |
| 04:18:15 | scorche | ...... |
| 04:18:17 | sharpe | ... |
| 04:18:23 | Mikachu | hahaha |
| 04:18:28 | scorche | uhhhhh |
| 04:18:31 | Rick | that's what we told you to do to begin with |
| 04:18:41 | fiftyfour123 | you had <> around the text part |
| 04:18:47 | scorche | lol |
| 04:18:49 | Rick | that doesn't matter |
| 04:18:51 | * | sharpe <blar> |
| 04:18:54 | * | Rick <see?> |
| 04:18:55 | Rick | :P |
| 04:18:59 | * | fiftyfour123 <rfhd> |
| 04:19:02 | fiftyfour123 | oh |
| 04:19:03 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:19:06 | * | Mikachu see come, /me see go |
| 04:19:06 | sharpe | ahah |
| 04:19:17 | * | scorche sharpe: i said blah not blar!!! oh yeah... <> |
| 04:19:23 | Rick | I'll assume it was just a EBKAC |
| 04:19:24 | Rick | :P |
| 04:19:31 | scorche | +p |
| 04:19:58 | fiftyfour123 | some guy on the ipodlinux forums just asked me if a dell with windows xp is a pc |
| 04:20:00 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:20:23 | Rick | if it's a linux forum I'd heavily suggest saying "no" |
| 04:20:32 | scorche | someone in #rockbox just asked me how you do an emote |
| 04:20:33 | scorche | lol |
| 04:20:44 | scorche | errr... |
| 04:20:49 | * | sharpe coughs. |
| 04:20:54 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:20:58 | * | Rick hands sharpe some cough drops |
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| 04:21:13 | * | fiftyfour123 wants a cough drop |
| 04:21:25 | sharpe | okay. we're good with the emotes now. |
| 04:21:35 | * | scorche says "no." |
| 04:21:44 | fiftyfour123 | :( |
| 04:21:52 | fiftyfour123 | lol |
| 04:22:13 | sharpe | hey, i've got it. lets port FreeCiv to rockbox! |
| 04:22:48 | sharpe | because that won't be fun-filled and exciting |
| 04:22:59 | Rick | er |
| 04:23:10 | Rick | how many daps would that even be playable on? |
| 04:23:36 | sharpe | i'd heir on the side of, none... |
| 04:23:42 | Rick | :P |
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| 04:24:36 | Mikachu | yay lets port scummvm |
| 04:24:46 | scorche | dig dug! |
| 04:24:48 | sharpe | lets port the doom 3 engine! |
| 04:25:54 | sharpe | despite the fact it isn't open source |
| 04:26:11 | sharpe | and of the hardware we have available |
| 04:26:41 | JdGordon | lets port vista... |
| 04:26:56 | Mikachu | lets port the .net platform |
| 04:27:02 | JdGordon | noo... mono |
| 04:27:09 | JdGordon | its open source at least |
| 04:27:13 | sharpe | :) |
| 04:27:18 | JdGordon | java would be nice |
| 04:27:29 | JdGordon | flash would be fun |
| 04:27:30 | sharpe | RockboxJava |
| 04:27:53 | Mikachu | JdGordon: i thought we were joking |
| 04:28:07 | JdGordon | we r |
| 04:28:15 | JdGordon | but then i went serious for 0.5s |
| 04:28:18 | sharpe | heh, rbjvm. |
| 04:28:19 | * | JdGordon appologises |
| 04:28:20 | Mikachu | oh okay |
| 04:28:48 | Mikachu | lets port folding@home |
| 04:28:57 | sharpe | i was about to suggest distributed.net |
| 04:29:30 | sharpe | distributed.net, psh. why help find the cure for cancer when you can crack encryption? |
| 04:29:35 | Mikachu | that would be the silliest waste of time since me watching 2 minutes of the simple life |
| 04:30:14 | sharpe | that's not funny... |
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| 04:30:41 | Mikachu | it wasn't a joke |
| 04:30:52 | sharpe | that would be why it's not funny then |
| 04:31:03 | sharpe | hmm. how about an rpg? |
| 04:31:35 | sharpe | that is oddly enough listed in turn based strategy. |
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| 04:36:02 | Mikachu | by whom? |
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| 04:47:10 | sharpe | i'm back! |
| 04:47:24 | Mikachu | hooray, were you gone? |
| 04:47:38 | sharpe | yes... thank you for noticing. |
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| 04:55:40 | sharpe | should i bother pointing out that paul's an administrator, when it says below his name in the forums? |
| 04:55:59 | Mikachu | to who? |
| 04:56:12 | sharpe | "that_asian_guy" |
| 04:56:31 | Mikachu | he'll find out on his own |
| 04:56:42 | sharpe | hehe. |
| 04:58:54 | sharpe | you know, adding letters in front of 'rockbox' create some interesting names. like, frockbox... |
| 04:59:41 | Mikachu | and not many others |
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| 05:00:54 | sharpe | yep. |
| 05:01:24 | gpoo | would rock box work |
| 05:01:30 | gpoo | with numark new dj device |
| 05:01:35 | gpoo | the one that allows scartching |
| 05:01:38 | sharpe | is there a port for it? |
| 05:01:53 | gpoo | not the idj |
| 05:01:57 | gpoo | the professional one |
| 05:01:59 | gpoo | idj is a toy |
| 05:02:35 | sharpe | i've no idea what you're talking about, so i'll just say 'Sure!' and ':D' |
| 05:02:38 | sharpe | Sure! :D |
| 05:02:52 | gpoo | http://numark.com/index.html?http://numark.com/products/product_view.php?v=overview&n=168 |
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| 05:03:00 | gpoo | :) |
| 05:03:05 | gpoo | that product |
| 05:03:13 | gpoo | it called the icdx |
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| 05:03:37 | gpoo | I am unsure how they the ipod to scratch, unless the device just uses the ipod as a hard disk |
| 05:03:58 | sharpe | they just use it as a storage device. |
| 05:04:19 | gpoo | oh they do |
| 05:04:38 | sharpe | well, considering it says so, yeah, that'd be my bet. |
| 05:04:39 | gpoo | hmm but then I bet how do they get the information and play list |
| 05:05:01 | gpoo | not even ipod support the itunes database |
| 05:05:11 | gpoo | and futhermore what if they are itunes song |
| 05:05:14 | gpoo | hmm strange |
| 05:05:23 | sharpe | i'm taking a wild guess, they read the id3 information from the song. |
| 05:06:39 | gpoo | oh |
| 05:06:52 | gpoo | yea that the only thing |
| 05:06:59 | gpoo | unless they rocbox port for the dj player |
| 05:07:00 | gpoo | :) |
| 05:07:06 | gpoo | dam they got |
| 05:07:20 | gpoo | I like cuase it has scratch |
| 05:07:38 | sharpe | i can tell |
| 05:08:09 | gpoo | if you look at the picture the ipod is in music mode, |
| 05:09:01 | gpoo | you see the menu not the charge mode, hmm I notice when ipod is pluged to say pinoeer it says pioneer |
| 05:09:52 | gpoo | my fav numark is a usb turntable, a vinly but a usb one |
| 05:09:59 | gpoo | bbbl |
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| 07:39:57 | JdGordon | i hate a semi-dead ipoo here, the appleos seems to keep stalling and i cant get music playback.. any chance ockbox will fix that? |
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| 08:10:41 | sharpe | whee... |
| 08:10:54 | aliask | JdGordon: What's wrong with trying it? |
| 08:11:42 | JdGordon | i tihnk its a dead hdd actually.. dd fails to read the bootloader |
| 08:11:55 | sharpe | that's not very good. |
| 08:12:25 | JdGordon | and its getting pretty hot and keeps dropping the usb connect? |
| 08:12:47 | aliask | Hot? Would a dead harddrive do that? |
| 08:12:59 | sharpe | could be the power chip(s)... |
| 08:13:58 | JdGordon | hahah, its playying like dead cd |
| 08:14:03 | JdGordon | its definalty fucked |
| 08:14:09 | JdGordon | how long are ipoo warrenty? |
| 08:14:15 | scorche | 1 year |
| 08:14:16 | sharpe | a year i believe |
| 08:14:17 | aliask | 1 Year standard I think |
| 08:14:24 | sharpe | woo redundancy! |
| 08:14:25 | scorche | wow....i actually won! |
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| 08:14:33 | * | scorche celebrates |
| 08:14:42 | aliask | But in a way we all helped. Doesn't it make you feel special? |
| 08:14:49 | scorche | no |
| 08:14:50 | sharpe | scorche: but i still have the 'rockbox expert' tag :D |
| 08:14:50 | JdGordon | hmm... i wonder why ipod rejected the return then? |
| 08:14:52 | scorche | but i won |
| 08:14:53 | aliask | (Ok, I'm just saying that because I was slowest) |
| 08:14:58 | scorche | sharpe: ='( |
| 08:15:29 | aliask | They don't cover stuff that you did to the player. So if you dropped it in a glass of water, they wouldn't fix it. |
| 08:15:50 | sharpe | i just wiped one of my disks of all deleted files.. muahaha. |
| 08:15:54 | JdGordon | $ fsck.vfat -a -v /dev/sda1 |
| 08:15:55 | JdGordon | dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 08:15:55 | JdGordon | dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN |
| 08:15:55 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 08:15:55 | JdGordon | Currently, only 1 or 2 FATs are supported, not 123. |
| 08:16:03 | JdGordon | ? |
| 08:16:12 | sharpe | 123 Fats? |
| 08:16:22 | sharpe | oh. |
| 08:16:28 | sharpe | gah. |
| 08:16:47 | sharpe | why would there be 123 file allocation tables? |
| 08:16:56 | JdGordon | i dunno.. |
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| 08:18:17 | JdGordon | and im getting Got 253952 bytes instead of 19448812 at 16384 on /dev/sda2 |
| 08:18:40 | JdGordon | and buffer i/o errors in dmesg |
| 08:18:44 | aliask | Wait, is sda1 the bootloader partition? |
| 08:18:49 | JdGordon | ye |
| 08:18:56 | aliask | I don't think it's FAT. |
| 08:19:06 | JdGordon | oh ok.. |
| 08:19:07 | sharpe | it's not anything... |
| 08:19:20 | JdGordon | but sda2 is failing also, so something is dead for sure |
| 08:19:35 | aliask | Yeah. But explains the 123 thing a little. |
| 08:20:03 | sharpe | well, 123 tables, hooray for redundancy |
| 08:21:24 | JdGordon | click click... hdd is definatly fubar |
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| 08:21:54 | sharpe | maybe there's... some small animal that makes a clicking noise in it? |
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| 08:22:25 | aliask | And making a lot of heat, and shorting stuff in the right order so that the iPod doesnt work. |
| 08:22:34 | sharpe | exactly. |
| 08:22:55 | leftright | mooorning, everyone |
| 08:22:59 | sharpe | damned clicking-metallic-exothermic animals. |
| 08:23:19 | sharpe | good day. |
| 08:23:33 | leftright | is there any way that the white noise (hiss) could be supressed when there is no music playing, on the H1xx series, i have a ihp140/UE10's and the hiss has become noticeable, not very irritating yet, so was wondering if you guys could somehow weave some magic in the code. |
| 08:24:47 | aliask | I believe that the noise comes from the chips themselves, and perhaps small electronic interference on the board. I think it will be difficult, if not impossible to get rid of. |
| 08:25:44 | leftright | I dont notice it when musics paying, only when there's no playback, so was wondering if some magic coding would suprees it when there is no playback |
| 08:26:02 | sharpe | play a recorded track of nothing? |
| 08:26:50 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:26:55 | leftright | like perhaps muting the output if htere's no playback ?, just a suggestion |
| 08:26:56 | aliask | It's just that the actual noise of the music drowns it out. I suppose it might be possible to uninitialise the audio chip when nothing is playing, but I don't really know how viable that would be. |
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| 08:27:07 | * | amiconn would really like to have access to a BDM'ed H300 :/ |
| 08:27:32 | sharpe | well, amiconn it just so happens to be your lucky day. |
| 08:28:07 | JdGordon | still no luck with the usbotg chip? |
| 08:28:09 | amiconn | Then I could see what retailos does to the various GPIOs |
| 08:29:12 | aliask | Does LinusN have one BDM'd up? Or was that the one that died? |
| 08:29:18 | LinusN | not even i have a bdm:ed h300 nowadays |
| 08:29:29 | aliask | Ah. |
| 08:29:45 | LinusN | it's just a matter of some soldering though |
| 08:30:12 | leftright | LinusN, do you think it would be possible to supress the white noise with code somehow ? |
| 08:30:22 | LinusN | not sure |
| 08:30:39 | LinusN | do you know if the noise is the same in the of? |
| 08:31:03 | leftright | sory, dont understand, of? |
| 08:31:10 | aliask | original firmware |
| 08:31:11 | LinusN | of=original firmware |
| 08:31:31 | leftright | ah, i'll try it, heh, forget that thing exists |
| 08:31:38 | LinusN | hehe |
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| 08:36:13 | leftright | LinisN, yes the white noise is also there with original firmware |
| 08:37:39 | leftright | should I put it up as a feature request ? |
| 08:39:46 | leftright | sorry, s/u/i ^^ |
| 08:40:28 | JdGordon | is apple 1 yr warrenty still good on ex-demo ipods? |
| 08:40:38 | JdGordon | maybe thats why it was rejected |
| 08:41:13 | thegeek | LinusN : I have a h120 that has the usb/ata-mainboard-"bug" (design problem / loose soldering) |
| 08:41:15 | LinusN | leftright: yes, do that |
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| 08:41:30 | LinusN | thegeek: how nice for you :-) |
| 08:41:35 | thegeek | I have some experience soldering, (even smd), what is needed to fix it? |
| 08:41:35 | thegeek | hehe |
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| 08:41:51 | LinusN | have you tried to remove the daughterboard? |
| 08:41:54 | thegeek | do I unsolder the daughterboard and just reflow the chips |
| 08:41:56 | thegeek | no |
| 08:42:11 | thegeek | I thought I'd hear with you before doing anything;) |
| 08:42:15 | LinusN | you need to remove the solder from the 4 joints in the corners |
| 08:42:33 | thegeek | ok |
| 08:42:34 | LinusN | then you can easily take them apart |
| 08:42:48 | LinusN | you will notice what needs to be done when you have done that |
| 08:42:53 | thegeek | ok;) |
| 08:42:54 | thegeek | thanks |
| 08:42:59 | dunno | LinusN, ok if I put the white noise supression in the feature list |
| 08:43:15 | LinusN | be aware, those smd pads are tiny |
| 08:43:26 | thegeek | yes, I know (from the scans) |
| 08:43:27 | thegeek | but |
| 08:43:30 | thegeek | I guess it's worth a try |
| 08:43:39 | thegeek | the warranty is long gone anyway |
| 08:43:57 | LinusN | a small tip for you: you can manage with a large tip and some solder braid |
| 08:44:13 | thegeek | yeah, I've been reading up on smd-soldering tricks ;) |
| 08:44:19 | LinusN | ok :-) |
| 08:44:21 | thegeek | :) |
| 08:44:32 | LinusN | good luck |
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| 08:46:17 | thegeek | thanks, I think I'll need it:P |
| 08:46:56 | LinusN | if not, you can send it my way, it's not that far |
| 08:47:00 | amiconn | LinusN: Do you know the tick frequency in retailos? |
| 08:47:09 | LinusN | no, i don't |
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| 09:38:49 | B4gder | aha, the sansa pregenerates the thumbnails |
| 09:39:01 | B4gder | for image browsing |
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| 09:53:03 | petur | looking at the number of articles about rb each year, 2006 seems to be the year of breaking through to the masses |
| 09:53:31 | B4gder | indeed |
| 09:54:09 | * | B4gder finds a file on his sansa that contains: "#DO NOT EDIT OR REMOVE THIS FILE |
| 09:54:10 | B4gder | " |
| 09:54:16 | B4gder | tempting... |
| 09:54:22 | petur | hahaha |
| 09:54:29 | petur | maybe rename it? |
| 09:54:36 | B4gder | yeah, I'll do that |
| 09:54:58 | petur | you still have the box they cam in to rma them? |
| 09:55:45 | B4gder | sure |
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| 09:55:52 | B4gder | Product: e260 |
| 09:55:53 | B4gder | FW: 01.00.12A |
| 09:55:53 | B4gder | Region: America |
| 09:55:53 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK B4gder |
| 09:55:53 | B4gder | Build Date: 2006.03.29 |
| 09:56:02 | B4gder | and then "Serial:" |
| 09:56:14 | B4gder | with 800 zero bytes following it |
| 09:56:42 | petur | they're going to sell lots of them :) |
| 09:57:06 | B4gder | oh, no I counted wrong |
| 09:57:15 | B4gder | it is padded to even 0x200 bytes |
| 09:57:16 | B4gder | funny |
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| 10:23:37 | B4gder | ls -l |
| 10:23:58 | B4gder | -rw-r−−r−− 1 IT Ingen 5420032 Apr 14 18:29 PP5022.mi4 |
| 10:24:26 | B4gder | didn't the h10 guys talk about those mi4 files? |
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| 10:24:32 | linuxstb | 5022? |
| 10:24:36 | B4gder | yes |
| 10:24:48 | B4gder | indeed odd |
| 10:24:55 | markun | I remember such a file also for a philips player update |
| 10:24:59 | linuxstb | Yes, lots of players use .mi4 files. |
| 10:25:11 | linuxstb | Was that philips a portalplayer device? |
| 10:25:40 | markun | Yes, a HDD6330 |
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| 10:26:29 | linuxstb | 542032 bytes is about the same as the ipod firmware images stored (unencrypted) in the firmware partition. |
| 10:26:48 | B4gder | 5420032 |
| 10:27:01 | linuxstb | That's what I meant.... about 5.5MB |
| 10:27:03 | linuxstb | :) |
| 10:27:04 | B4gder | ok |
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| 10:27:20 | B4gder | and I got .rom file in the fs too |
| 10:27:40 | B4gder | BL_SD_boardSupportSD.rom |
| 10:27:50 | linuxstb | How big? |
| 10:27:58 | B4gder | 390K |
| 10:28:11 | linuxstb | encrypted? |
| 10:28:17 | B4gder | checking now |
| 10:28:45 | B4gder | unencrypted |
| 10:28:59 | B4gder | contains clear text strings |
| 10:29:48 | linuxstb | Are there the usual set of exception vectors at the start? (branch instructions) |
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| 10:31:11 | B4gder | 0: ea000015 b 0x5c |
| 10:31:11 | B4gder | 4: ea00003c b 0xfc |
| 10:31:11 | B4gder | 8: e1b0f00e movs pc, lr |
| 10:31:11 | B4gder | c: ea00003c b 0x104 |
| 10:31:11 | B4gder | 10: ea00003d b 0x10c |
| 10:32:05 | linuxstb | I wonder if that contains the code to decrypt the .mi4 file... |
| 10:32:52 | B4gder | the funny thing is that they mention pp5022 all over |
| 10:33:05 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:33:14 | B4gder | even within the mi4 file |
| 10:33:59 | markun | I was wrong about the HDD6330 firmware update. The file is called FWImage.ebn. Starts with PPOS and contrains some strings for example: PP5022AF-05.40-PP07-05.40-MG02-00.01-DT |
| 10:34:33 | B4gder | the very same |
| 10:34:38 | B4gder | like this .mi4 |
| 10:34:46 | B4gder | PPOS first |
| 10:34:54 | B4gder | and PP5022AF-05.51-S301-00.12-S301.00.12A-D |
| 10:35:29 | B4gder | "Copyright(c) 1999 - 2003 PortalPlayer, Inc. All rights reserved." |
| 10:35:40 | markun | You can download the firmare here: http://www.usasupport.philips.com/productDocuments.html?ProductCode=HDD6330/17 |
| 10:36:00 | markun | mine have the same copyright |
| 10:36:17 | markun | Does yours also say ARIZONA? |
| 10:36:32 | B4gder | where? |
| 10:37:11 | markun | PPOS |
| 10:37:13 | markun | OrQ+J |
| 10:37:13 | markun | portalplayer |
| 10:37:13 | markun | PP5022AF-05.40-PP07-05.40-MG02-00.01-DT |
| 10:37:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK markun |
| 10:37:13 | markun | ARIZONA |
| 10:37:16 | markun | Digital Media Platform |
| 10:37:18 | markun | Copyright(c) 1999 - 2003 PortalPlayer, Inc. All rights reserved. |
| 10:38:41 | B4gder | no arizona here |
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| 10:38:51 | B4gder | the philips one is 1300K larger |
| 10:39:26 | B4gder | PPOS |
| 10:39:27 | B4gder | portalplayer |
| 10:39:27 | B4gder | PP5022AF-05.51-S301-00.12-S301.00.12A-D |
| 10:39:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 10:39:27 | B4gder | 2006.03.29 |
| 10:39:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 10:39:27 | B4gder | (Build 169.20) |
| 10:39:27 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 10:39:27 | B4gder | Digital Media Platform |
| 10:39:54 | B4gder | hinting that Arizona is the build name or something |
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| 10:42:28 | B4gder | and |
| 10:42:36 | B4gder | the mi4 seems to have the exceptions at 0x200 |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | 200: ea000388 b 0x1028 |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | 204: ea000375 b 0xfe0 |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | 208: e1b0f00e movs pc, lr |
| 10:42:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | 20c: ea000379 b 0xff8 |
| 10:42:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 5 |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | 210: ea00037e b 0x1010 |
| 10:44:30 | B4gder | and the philips one: |
| 10:44:37 | B4gder | 200: ea000558 b 0x1768 |
| 10:44:37 | B4gder | 204: ea000545 b 0x1720 |
| 10:44:37 | B4gder | 208: e1b0f00e movs pc, lr |
| 10:44:37 | *** | Alert Mode level 6 |
| 10:44:37 | B4gder | 20c: ea000549 b 0x1738 |
| 10:44:37 | *** | Alert Mode level 7 |
| 10:44:37 | B4gder | 210: ea00054e b 0x1750 |
| 10:47:05 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 41 minutes and 20 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:47:05 | * | preglow summons portalplayer docs |
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| 10:54:38 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 10:58:43 | Genre9mp3 | The tracker seems messed up... |
| 10:59:16 | Genre9mp3 | The latest bugs/patches are supposed to be on the first page, right? |
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| 10:59:49 | merbanan | does players with tms cpu's have lesser chance of porting coz the lack of a proper tool chain ? |
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| 11:01:22 | JdGordon | it prob has 0 chance of a port without a proper toolchain.. |
| 11:01:35 | merbanan | I'm thinking of the creative range of players |
| 11:02:15 | LinusN | merbanan: the arm core is simple |
| 11:02:28 | LinusN | merbanan: the dsp core is worse, but there is a gnu asm port |
| 11:03:20 | LinusN | so, we can develop code for the dm series, but we can not write dsp code in c |
| 11:03:47 | LinusN | also, we have no knowledge about the onboard peripherals |
| 11:04:11 | LinusN | since texas instrument don't believe in sharing information |
| 11:04:42 | merbanan | ahh, ok |
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| 11:13:23 | preglow | why are all the mails just labled "Notification from Rockbox"? |
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| 11:18:42 | Redbreva | JdGordon: Your package has just been posted, should be with you in about 5 working days. |
| 11:18:53 | JdGordon | wow, amazing |
| 11:19:57 | Redbreva | It was only 1.80 pounds, so don't even worry about the postage ;-) |
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| 11:20:39 | JdGordon | he's nuts :D |
| 11:20:41 | JdGordon | weeee |
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| 11:21:33 | Redbreva | Damn, IRC is so flakey at work - even the web based version... |
| 11:22:04 | Jungti1234 | hi |
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| 11:30:21 | ashridah | don't suppose anyone knows how i can force fsck.vfat to use the second FAT table over the first, do they? |
| 11:30:32 | * | ashridah managed to, uh, corrupt the first one :) |
| 11:30:56 | Rick | ;o |
| 11:30:58 | Rick | ashridah is evil |
| 11:31:12 | ashridah | well. no. stupid is more like. |
| 11:31:16 | Rick | yes, evil |
| 11:31:17 | Rick | :P |
| 11:32:07 | ashridah | damnit. i have a nasty feeling i've nuked the filesystem on this hd. :S |
| 11:33:42 | LinusN | maybe you can use dd to copy fat#2 to fat"1 |
| 11:33:44 | ashridah | so, yeah. If i've managed to, say, overwrite the first512 bytes of a fat32 partition, any chance of recovery? after all, the second FAT table should cover most of it, but damned if i know how i can get it back :S |
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| 11:34:53 | ashridah | wait a second. isn't there a backup of the boot sector as well/ |
| 11:34:55 | LinusN | unfortunately, the first 512 bytes are vital |
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| 11:35:45 | LinusN | i'm not sure about the boot sector copy |
| 11:35:58 | ashridah | LinusN: i was afraid of that. fortunately, i've got backups of a majority of it, and the rest were archives from here and there, but recovery is going to take a loooong time :( |
| 11:36:11 | LinusN | what type of data is it? |
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| 11:37:17 | ashridah | movies, music (no great loss, anything important was on dvd or my mp3 player), archives for all of the programs and utilities i've leeched over the past year, drivers, documentation i've downloaded, n64 roms (again, on dvd). several isos (probably a few i didn't have backups for, but not many i reuse) |
| 11:37:55 | ashridah | everything but the first 512 bytes will be intact, and i'm just trying to nut my brain to figure out some way to a) copy the fat table over, and reconstruct the rest |
| 11:38:12 | ashridah | I know the partition's dimensions, for instance. |
| 11:38:17 | LinusN | http://www.pcinspector.de/file_recovery/UK/welcome.htm |
| 11:38:23 | LinusN | saved my ass once |
| 11:38:34 | * | ashridah takes a look |
| 11:38:40 | LinusN | it's a "pay if you like it" licens |
| 11:38:42 | LinusN | e |
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| 11:40:23 | ashridah | hell, i wouldn't be surprised if 99% of the drive is completely contiguous either |
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| 11:41:02 | ashridah | hm. seems handy |
| 11:41:58 | ashridah | of course, the fun comes when i have to put this data someplace while i'm recovering it, i bet :) |
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| 11:42:57 | ashridah | the other annoyance is that the drive's also the boot drive. windows is going to have a fit when i try to run this, i'm betting :( |
| 11:43:14 | ashridah | (when i say boot drive, i mean it has the boot sector, that's not where windows is installed) |
| 11:43:20 | guillaume | hello all |
| 11:43:51 | guillaume | I have to prepare a iaudio X5 for a blind people |
| 11:44:27 | guillaume | i have install the voices capability but when I play a song and i press the button to return to the menu rockbox freeze |
| 11:44:42 | guillaume | someone have an idee ? |
| 11:45:18 | guillaume | this fonctionnality is in devellopement for the X5 ? |
| 11:46:38 | LinusN | this is a known bug in rockbox |
| 11:46:40 | crashd | guillaume: the x5 is still in development, so it's going to be buggy |
| 11:47:08 | ashridah | man, i so can't believe i did this. the annoying thing is that the command i used before was to save the MBR of the fricking hard drive :) |
| 11:48:33 | ashridah | hm. i'm afraid to say this program may not recover the data that i don't have backups for :S |
| 11:50:51 | LinusN | maybe you should try to reconstruct the boot sector first |
| 11:51:07 | LinusN | use a sector editor and look for the boot sector copy |
| 11:51:23 | ashridah | heh. the problem being i have no idea what it looks like |
| 11:51:33 | petur | if it had only windows: fdisk /mbr |
| 11:51:33 | LinusN | oh... |
| 11:51:46 | LinusN | petur: it's not the mbr |
| 11:51:59 | ashridah | petur: the mbr's fine, and that was grub anyway, which is easily fixed. |
| 11:52:30 | * | petur creeps back under his rock |
| 11:52:39 | LinusN | ...and stay there! ;-) |
| 11:52:48 | ashridah | (and annoyingly, i made a backup of :) ) |
| 11:53:00 | ashridah | it's like a 512 byte file of pure taunt :) |
| 11:54:24 | LinusN | http://www.ptdd.com/fixboot.htm |
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| 11:57:39 | ashridah | annoyingly, pay-for to actually get it to fix something. |
| 11:57:44 | ashridah | but worth a look |
| 11:58:40 | JdGordon | http://www.softwarepatch.com/software/filerecovery.html might help |
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| 12:01:48 | ashridah | JdGordon: that's the one linus said first :) |
| 12:02:06 | JdGordon | under a different url :p |
| 12:02:25 | JdGordon | just dont try writing to the disk at all and you should be able to get your data back... |
| 12:02:28 | JdGordon | if your lucky... |
| 12:02:29 | ashridah | more or less |
| 12:02:44 | ashridah | JdGordon: i know the procedure. |
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| 12:03:07 | ashridah | damnit. i was afraid of this |
| 12:03:13 | ashridah | the only copy of windows i have is vista |
| 12:03:31 | petur | eow |
| 12:03:47 | ashridah | yes, this makes things... difficult. |
| 12:04:05 | JdGordon | there must be a linux live cd distro specifically for data recovery? |
| 12:04:08 | ashridah | yeah, the installer for filerecovery crashes |
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| 12:04:28 | ashridah | JdGordon: probably, but if that was the case, i'd just reboot into the working linux distro i already have (where i made the mistake in the first place :) ) |
| 12:04:39 | JdGordon | ah |
| 12:05:00 | * | JdGordon stopps making suggestinos.. |
| 12:05:47 | ashridah | the problem is, i simply don't know where to get a backup boot sector from that'll work. |
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| 12:06:09 | ashridah | i think i'm going to have to bite the bullet and just wipe the disk. |
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| 12:06:37 | ashridah | i'm losing some data, mainly backups of my games directory (95% of which i've got copies of or never play anymore anyway) |
| 12:07:53 | ashridah | music i can get off my mp3 player without much fuss. movies were mostly junk i hadn't bothered to burn, or had burned but hadn't deleted. archives is a royal pain, because some of it's a pain to leech again (ie, big++ ) |
| 12:08:17 | ashridah | just a pain that so little damage == so much loss |
| 12:09:46 | ashridah | of course, the filesystem was mounted at the time too. |
| 12:10:06 | ashridah | so unmounting it probably made it try to write to the fat table stored in the boot sector :( |
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| 12:11:46 | ashridah | btw, what does ATA: -71 panic mean on rockbox? :) |
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| 12:16:19 | linuxstb | ashridah: Looking at ata_init() in firmware/drivers/ata.c, it means the set_multiple_mode() function returned "not RDY". But I don't know why it would do that... |
| 12:17:16 | ashridah | ah, that'd probably be because i yanked the usb cable while ubuntu was booting :) |
| 12:17:41 | ashridah | ah, crapicus upon crapicuses. this damned thing had an NTLDR boot sector |
| 12:17:42 | ashridah | @#$%@#$% |
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| 12:18:08 | Rick | http://www.shimafuji.co.jp/product/semc5701a01.html :o |
| 12:18:21 | ashridah | hmm |
| 12:18:34 | ashridah | looks like the sector in question might be at C00 |
| 12:18:40 | ashridah | but the 'magic' doesn't seem to match. |
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| 12:21:55 | ashridah | well. looks like i'll have to admit defeat. |
| 12:21:58 | ashridah | how fricking annoying. |
| 12:24:25 | ashridah | ah well, no-one to blame but myself |
| 12:24:27 | * | ashridah mutters |
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| 12:26:34 | ashridah | raaghl. why could i have done this to sdb2. wouldn't have given a damn if i'd nuked the ntfs partition vista's on :) |
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| 12:29:40 | ashridah | man. so happy i went on a mass burning spree a week ago to free up space on this drive. |
| 12:30:00 | Rick | hehe |
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| 12:38:02 | ashridah | the really annoying part about this is that I had all the drivers for winxp on that fricking drive, and i was just about to install xp on there :) |
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| 12:44:43 | B4gder | I removed all music from my sansa, but it doesn't like that... |
| 12:45:09 | B4gder | so it still thinks there are 30 songs on it and resumes play... |
| 12:46:44 | linuxstb | Sounds familiar... |
| 12:47:43 | Genre9mp3 | B4gder: It seems that you have some fun there with your new toy! :) |
| 12:47:49 | B4gder | oh yes |
| 12:48:17 | Genre9mp3 | btw, the WPB is not a bad idea at all! |
| 12:48:17 | petur | the whole porting story was just a cover up to get new toys ;) |
| 12:48:23 | ashridah | ooh. new toies |
| 12:48:27 | Genre9mp3 | petur, hehe |
| 12:48:29 | ashridah | toys even |
| 12:48:55 | Genre9mp3 | WPB= While Playing Bar.... :P |
| 12:49:01 | B4gder | when I upgrade it, it stores a file in the root named VERSION.TXT that contains: |
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| 12:49:37 | B4gder | Version Info: Product Rev.: PP5022AF-05.51-S301-00.12-S301.00.12A-D |
| 12:49:37 | B4gder | Base Code: 05.51-S301-00.12-S301.00.12A-D |
| 12:49:37 | B4gder | ODM Ver.: S301-00.12-S301.00.12A-D |
| 12:49:37 | B4gder | OEM Ver.: S301.00.12A-D |
| 12:49:42 | B4gder | etc |
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| 12:51:25 | juxtap | how about a slow-me-down plugin :] |
| 12:51:45 | preglow | slow you down? |
| 12:51:57 | Genre9mp3 | B4gder: Now Sansa expects a Rockbox port? Simply by providing 2 players? Are they willing to provide some Hardware Documentation as well? |
| 12:52:15 | juxtap | like, slow a track down, without altering pitch |
| 12:52:16 | B4gder | I don't think they _expect_ one |
| 12:52:24 | B4gder | but they hope for one |
| 12:52:30 | preglow | juxtap: it's on the list, but it's not a priority |
| 12:52:32 | preglow | at least not for me |
| 12:52:51 | juxtap | is it really? cool |
| 12:52:53 | Genre9mp3 | Well, they can help also...not only hope |
| 12:53:06 | B4gder | I'm not so sure they can |
| 12:53:15 | preglow | me neither |
| 12:53:15 | preglow | heh |
| 12:53:19 | Genre9mp3 | but why? |
| 12:53:38 | petur | nda |
| 12:53:41 | preglow | i don't think portalplayer would be too happy to see docs released |
| 12:53:52 | Genre9mp3 | Is it a legal issue to provide documentation or something? |
| 12:53:55 | preglow | they've probably got signed agreements about it |
| 12:53:57 | B4gder | if they even have shown the docs |
| 12:54:09 | B4gder | its very possible sandisk only uses APIs etc provided by PP |
| 12:54:13 | preglow | indeed |
| 12:54:19 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 12:54:24 | Genre9mp3 | I see... |
| 12:54:24 | B4gder | and using code provided by PP |
| 12:54:28 | Jungti1234 | Does E10 chip need scan? |
| 12:54:54 | Jungti1234 | I have pictures only. |
| 12:55:40 | B4gder | Jungti1234: if you intend to work on a port, you need to be able to identify the chips from the markings on them |
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| 12:56:18 | Jungti1234 | ok. |
| 12:56:25 | Genre9mp3 | Well, a Sansa developer that has access to this documentation could contribute to a Rockbox port... |
| 12:56:31 | Genre9mp3 | hehe |
| 12:57:06 | linuxstb | Not if that Sansa developer is bound by an NDA... |
| 12:57:19 | Genre9mp3 | NDA? |
| 12:57:28 | linuxstb | Non-disclosure agreement. |
| 12:58:18 | B4gder | chipmakers like NDAs |
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| 12:59:29 | Genre9mp3 | It's like they don't want people to mess around with their chips |
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| 13:00:28 | B4gder | correct |
| 13:00:34 | Genre9mp3 | But seeing the benefit that iriver gained by Rockbox, I understand Sansa's hopes... |
| 13:01:36 | Genre9mp3 | We could make a wiki page called: SendYourPlayersHere... :) |
| 13:02:09 | petur | It is strange that h1x0 players suddenly show up everywhere |
| 13:02:19 | Genre9mp3 | petur: I agree |
| 13:02:42 | Jungti1234 | which player use ARM in rockbox port? |
| 13:02:51 | B4gder | Jungti1234: ipods |
| 13:02:56 | B4gder | gigabeat |
| 13:03:08 | Jungti1234 | ah! |
| 13:04:14 | Jungti1234 | then, they have datasheet? |
| 13:04:28 | B4gder | not for ipods, no |
| 13:04:37 | Jungti1234 | what's mean? |
| 13:04:47 | Jungti1234 | don't have? have? |
| 13:04:50 | B4gder | it means no there are no datasheets for them |
| 13:04:57 | Jungti1234 | ok. |
| 13:06:39 | linuxstb | The ifp799 also has an ARM core, and also (I think) doesn't have documentation. |
| 13:06:55 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 13:07:03 | Jungti1234 | I know samsung staff one. |
| 13:07:28 | Jungti1234 | I will ask to him. |
| 13:08:08 | Jungti1234 | ahh, ARM datasheet is all-important? |
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| 13:08:53 | Jungti1234 | ipods was no it, too. no? |
| 13:08:53 | B4gder | ARM is just the cpu core, you want a datasheet for the specific microcontroller in your player |
| 13:09:05 | Genre9mp3 | I am reading this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5508 and I am wondering, Is it possible to solve interference problems with coding? This statement does not make sense to me...Am I wrong? |
| 13:10:01 | pondlife | Hello all, just wondered if anyone had noticed that the CVS build appears to have stalled. |
| 13:10:15 | B4gder | oops |
| 13:10:58 | pondlife | Nice IRC topic btw... |
| 13:11:14 | JdGordon | who broke em?? |
| 13:11:19 | JdGordon | damn that lack of auto-building.. |
| 13:11:20 | petur | markun |
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| 13:11:38 | B4gder | its just the same "hang" we have occationally |
| 13:11:47 | B4gder | its a flaw in the distributed build system |
| 13:11:56 | petur | I doubt the last commit caused it... |
| 13:12:06 | B4gder | sometimes one of the builds just never complete fine but hang |
| 13:12:30 | petur | is it one of the servers? |
| 13:12:31 | pondlife | How about implementing some kind of time limit? |
| 13:12:41 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:12:45 | B4gder | that's the plan |
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| 13:16:08 | preglow | where have all the meaningful tracker mail subjects gone? :/ |
| 13:16:32 | * | B4gder poked Zagor about it |
| 13:19:35 | B4gder | it certainly reminds us how amazingly silly the default mail subjects are in flyspray |
| 13:19:44 | tucoz | amiconn, Don't you think it's safe to remove this from the flashing instructions: "Don't flash any old builds which don't have the latest coldstart ability.." |
| 13:20:18 | tucoz | ..." These instructions refer to builds from cvs state 2003-07-10 on player: 2004-12-17". |
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| 13:21:27 | Hames | where can i get rockbox games/themes for my ipod? |
| 13:22:08 | markun | Hames: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/ |
| 13:22:37 | Hames | thx |
| 13:22:38 | markun | the games are installed with rockbox |
| 13:23:25 | Hames | know any other places? |
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| 13:23:37 | JdGordon | any gameboy rom u cant find |
| 13:23:40 | Hames | for like anything else rockbox...themes/apps/? |
| 13:23:42 | JdGordon | other than that thee are noe |
| 13:25:33 | markun | Hames: if you know how to program you can create your own |
| 13:25:44 | juxtap | preglow, show me a url for the slow-me-down? |
| 13:27:48 | preglow | what url? |
| 13:27:51 | preglow | it doesn't exist |
| 13:28:05 | linuxstb | Hames: There aren't really any other places to get Rockbox plugins - anything worthwhile is included in the official builds. You may find some plugins which haven't yet been added to the official builds in the patch tracker, but you'll have to compile them yourself. |
| 13:28:05 | juxtap | i dunno |
| 13:28:12 | juxtap | a "coming soon" page maybe |
| 13:28:17 | juxtap | or "requests" |
| 13:28:18 | Hames | ok thx |
| 13:28:20 | preglow | it's not coming soon |
| 13:28:25 | preglow | it's already in feature requests section |
| 13:28:42 | preglow | slowing down music with no pitch change isn't trivial |
| 13:29:05 | preglow | at least not if you want good quality |
| 13:29:53 | juxtap | yeah |
| 13:32:34 | Hames | off-topic: has anyone here ever had a problem where there would be a problem detecting the ipod from the pc? someone turned off my pc while the ipod was still connected. |
| 13:33:14 | juxtap | nope |
| 13:33:33 | Hames | have you ever accidently closed the connection without ejecting and having it work fine? |
| 13:35:07 | juxtap | can anyone charge their ipod by plugging directly into a plug port? i tried it and all it does is make rockbox reboot a million times |
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| 13:36:16 | linuxstb | juxtap: Just hold MENU when you insert the cable. |
| 13:36:32 | Hames | it's detecting it still, like F: iPod Video but it won't connect to it. |
| 13:37:04 | juxtap | thanks linuxstb |
| 13:37:12 | juxtap | i'll try that then :p |
| 13:37:56 | linuxstb | Hames: It's possible the disk is corrupted. Does it still work OK in both Rockbox and the Apple firmware? |
| 13:38:09 | Hames | i think it worked |
| 13:38:21 | Hames | anapod finally detected it and gave me a warning not to disconnect it when still connected |
| 13:38:36 | Hames | it loaded up on anapod but let me restart it to make sure. |
| 13:39:13 | Hames | thank god it worked :) |
| 13:39:33 | Hames | so where do I put the theme? in the root rockbox folder on my ipod? |
| 13:39:51 | Hames | nvm |
| 13:40:29 | Hames | eaech one into each category right? |
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| 13:46:35 | B4gder | perhaps the sansas don't use the 5024 |
| 13:47:12 | B4gder | "Can you tell us how much of your business in Q1 was non-Apple?" |
| 13:47:22 | B4gder | "Apple as I said was more than 95% of our revenue, so the rest was non-Apple." |
| 13:47:32 | crashd | B4gder: how do you upgrade the sansas? |
| 13:47:55 | preglow | B4gder: hahah |
| 13:47:58 | B4gder | you run an exe that puts files in the player's filesystem root |
| 13:48:02 | preglow | B4gder: sounds like they're in for a nice future |
| 13:48:06 | crashd | ah, and they upgrade from there |
| 13:48:07 | B4gder | yeah |
| 13:48:13 | crashd | do you know what they are called, the upgrade files? |
| 13:48:16 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:48:18 | petur | B4gder: you still haven't opened it up? tsk tsk tsk |
| 13:48:20 | preglow | B4gder: you know how the upgrade procedure is, btw? anything get flashed? |
| 13:48:21 | crashd | or, do you fancy sending me them ;) |
| 13:48:31 | B4gder | crashd: reload by sansa page for some detals |
| 13:48:38 | crashd | ahh cool |
| 13:48:44 | B4gder | s/by/my |
| 13:48:48 | crashd | hmm, isnt in my lastlog, what's the url? |
| 13:48:53 | B4gder | preglow: I think it flashes the lot |
| 13:49:06 | B4gder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html |
| 13:49:39 | crashd | heh, obviously using the portalplayer then |
| 13:49:58 | crashd | the BL file is probably similar to the h10's BL_H10.rom |
| 13:50:02 | crashd | hmm |
| 13:50:08 | B4gder | very likely, yes |
| 13:50:42 | tucoz | hmm. What is the name of the on-button for ondios? |
| 13:51:26 | tucoz | that is, in the flashing instructions "...MiniMon monitor is included, it starts with F3+On (recorders), RIGHT+ON (Ondio) or "+"+ON (player)..." |
| 13:51:51 | Genre9mp3 | The Sansa is good looking and small... |
| 13:52:13 | tucoz | is it the mode button perhaps? |
| 13:52:16 | Genre9mp3 | B4gder: What do you think about it's LCD? |
| 13:52:31 | B4gder | looks nice |
| 13:52:36 | * | tucoz summons amiconn |
| 13:54:01 | B4gder | I didn't find a screwdriver small enough to really pull it to pieces |
| 13:54:12 | B4gder | have to do it at home instead |
| 13:54:19 | petur | :) |
| 13:54:31 | preglow | B4gder: so you think the pp5024 is just very similar to the pp5022, then? |
| 13:54:31 | B4gder | the outer screws only opens it enough to replace the battery |
| 13:54:34 | preglow | would be good news for me |
| 13:54:45 | B4gder | yes, either that or this isn't a 5024 at all |
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| 13:57:11 | B4gder | ... and the h10 .mi4 file looks very similar |
| 13:57:13 | linuxstb | The 5024 has a lot of extra hardware in it though - the audio codec, headphone amp, RTC, battery charging, a "unique ID" for use with Windows Media DRM.... |
| 13:57:44 | linuxstb | B4gder: Time to open it up... |
| 13:57:50 | B4gder | yes |
| 13:57:54 | B4gder | I'll do it tonight |
| 13:58:40 | linuxstb | Have sandisk given you any answers about documentation? |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:12 | B4gder | he has answered more like "it might be hard, what you you need? I try to do this informally" |
| 14:00:25 | crashd | they are locked into their nda with pp, i'd guess |
| 14:00:34 | B4gder | I assume so too |
| 14:00:44 | crashd | and to get stuff to load on these particular pp setups you'd need to sort that out |
| 14:00:51 | B4gder | and this guy is in the US, and I'm not sure they even have developers there |
| 14:01:08 | linuxstb | Does the sansa have a mic input? |
| 14:01:11 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:01:13 | tucoz | player-owners, is this correct? http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/manual/platform/player.tex.diff?r1=1.9&r2=1.10 |
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| 14:01:23 | B4gder | ah, I mean it has a mic |
| 14:01:37 | linuxstb | Well, the hardware seems to match the features of the PP5024 then. |
| 14:01:40 | shriphani | guys how do i put in the ipod apple firmware clone for rockbox into my ipod ? |
| 14:01:57 | tucoz | is that a theme? |
| 14:02:01 | shriphani | yes |
| 14:02:08 | shriphani | and i am on linux :) |
| 14:02:17 | LinusN | tucoz: yes, + and - are used on the player |
| 14:02:23 | tucoz | LinusN, thanks |
| 14:02:39 | shriphani | linus torvalds is here ? |
| 14:02:45 | LinusN | not that i know of |
| 14:02:45 | linuxstb | shriphani: Your OS makes no difference. You just download the files and copy them to the relevant subdirectories under .rockbox/ on your ipod. |
| 14:03:06 | tucoz | LinusN, do you happen to know what button ON is on the ondios? |
| 14:03:15 | shriphani | ok so i just copy the entire zip file to mah ./rockbox ? |
| 14:03:15 | ashridah | shriphani: i don't think torvalds starts with an N |
| 14:03:20 | shriphani | ahh |
| 14:03:23 | B4gder | hahah |
| 14:03:26 | shriphani | but i saw linus :) |
| 14:03:31 | B4gder | although he speaks Swedish too ;-) |
| 14:03:45 | ashridah | yes, it's a curious co-incidence. |
| 14:04:01 | LinusN | tucoz: i'm not sure about which button is used to turn it on |
| 14:04:10 | shriphani | so should i copy the zip file or the files after extraction ? |
| 14:04:16 | LinusN | shriphani: you're not the first |
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| 14:04:39 | linuxstb | shriphani: It depends how the zip file has been created. Just compare the files in the zip with the files in .rockbox/themes/ and .rockbox/wps/ - it should be obvious what goes where. |
| 14:04:39 | LinusN | shriphani: after extraction |
| 14:04:50 | shriphani | ok :) |
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| 14:12:35 | shriphani | ok guys i manually placed the files int heir respective directories |
| 14:12:42 | shriphani | so i should reset the ipod ? |
| 14:13:30 | petur | shriphani: menu -> browse themes |
| 14:13:51 | shriphani | weee thanks |
| 14:15:00 | shriphani | guys rockbox seems to be consuming a lot of battery any fix for this ? |
| 14:15:23 | crashd | it's a feature. |
| 14:15:24 | crashd | ;) |
| 14:15:35 | linuxstb | If there was an easy fix, it would already be done... |
| 14:15:37 | shriphani | pfft |
| 14:15:51 | linuxstb | But it will be worked on. |
| 14:16:10 | shriphani | yay |
| 14:16:25 | shriphani | now at least ppl wont take a look at my ipod and say wtf is that |
| 14:17:58 | shriphani | hey if i go put mp4 codecs in .rockbox/codecs will it play video |
| 14:18:07 | crashd | no |
| 14:18:24 | shriphani | awww |
| 14:18:45 | ashridah | shriphani: those codecs are rockbox specific bits of code |
| 14:18:58 | shriphani | ok |
| 14:19:16 | ashridah | sadly, no-one's hacked together a winelib loader and x86 virtual machine for rockbox yet :) |
| 14:19:43 | ashridah | video playback on the ipod video is handled by a third party chip we don't have docs for |
| 14:19:53 | ashridah | so it's likely to be a long long time before video works on that |
| 14:20:03 | shriphani | ok |
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| 14:24:39 | shriphani | anyone runs a ,ac here ? |
| 14:24:42 | shriphani | mac ^ |
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| 14:30:59 | linuxstb | shriphani: Yes. |
| 14:31:29 | shriphani | oh cool |
| 14:31:38 | JdGordon | has any1 actually done the hardware mod ont he us h300 to get otg working? |
| 14:31:54 | shriphani | will a fat32 formatted ipod blow up when connected to a mac ? |
| 14:32:00 | linuxstb | No, it works fine. |
| 14:32:09 | shriphani | oh good |
| 14:33:00 | B4gder | ok, I checked now. It is a PP5024B |
| 14:33:13 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 14:33:31 | petur | ha! found a small screwdriver ;) |
| 14:33:39 | B4gder | yeah, I was too curious |
| 14:33:47 | linuxstb | Anything else interesting in there? |
| 14:34:00 | B4gder | there's rather large chip branded hynix |
| 14:34:08 | B4gder | next to the PP one |
| 14:34:22 | crashd | dram? |
| 14:34:30 | B4gder | other than that, remarkably little things |
| 14:34:41 | crashd | well, ram in general ;) |
| 14:34:43 | B4gder | could be dram sure |
| 14:34:53 | linuxstb | "Hynix Semiconductor is the world's top tier memory semiconductor supplier offering DRAM, SDRAM, and Flash memory chips to a wide range of established ..." |
| 14:34:57 | crashd | there you go then! |
| 14:35:04 | petur | flash :) |
| 14:35:10 | B4gder | and it certainly isn't the flash |
| 14:35:25 | B4gder | the flash is in two sandisk chips |
| 14:35:48 | petur | that would be a joke: sandisk using flash from another vendor |
| 14:36:12 | B4gder | hehe |
| 14:36:25 | JdGordon | do sandisk actully make their own chips tho? or just rebrand someone elses? |
| 14:36:26 | linuxstb | Don't Samsung produce DAPs using non-Samsung CPUs? |
| 14:36:29 | LinusN | when i worked at Ericsson, we had Motorola phones |
| 14:36:33 | Hansmaulwurf | are there actual Players which have a digital in? |
| 14:36:50 | linuxstb | Hansmaulwurf: H1x0 and the old Archoses |
| 14:36:53 | LinusN | Hansmaulwurf: iriver h100 |
| 14:36:57 | Hansmaulwurf | yeah i know |
| 14:36:58 | Hansmaulwurf | ... |
| 14:37:06 | LinusN | why the question then? |
| 14:37:08 | Hansmaulwurf | i meant "new" player |
| 14:37:15 | LinusN | i dount it |
| 14:37:17 | LinusN | doubt |
| 14:37:29 | linuxstb | Probably that Microtrack thing which I forget the name of. |
| 14:37:34 | LinusN | the riaa lobby is too strongm methinks |
| 14:38:05 | LinusN | and i don't think it's a feature in high demand among the masses |
| 14:38:29 | linuxstb | Here it is: http://www.solidstatesound.co.uk/M-Audio%20MicroTrack.htm |
| 14:38:57 | linuxstb | Also a portalplayer device I think. |
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| 14:41:58 | Hansmaulwurf | hm thanks |
| 14:42:16 | Hansmaulwurf | does the X5 have line-in? |
| 14:42:51 | linuxstb | yes |
| 14:43:03 | petur | via an extra block |
| 14:43:15 | petur | (one reason I didn't buy it) |
| 14:43:28 | Hansmaulwurf | extra block? |
| 14:43:35 | Hansmaulwurf | means, a kind of docking station? |
| 14:43:40 | petur | attaches to the bottom |
| 14:43:50 | petur | connector block |
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| 14:52:47 | petur | Hansmaulwurf: http://images.google.be/images?hl=nl&q=iaudio%20x5%20subpack&btnG=Zoeken&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 14:53:08 | Hansmaulwurf | thanks |
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| 15:01:48 | B4gder | the db format must be a PP thing |
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| 15:03:50 | B4gder | does ipod use a similar thing? |
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| 15:03:56 | B4gder | see the bottom of my sandisk page |
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| 15:07:06 | muesli|delhi | lol B4gder was just reading that news |
| 15:07:20 | markun | B4gder: http://www.paul.sladen.org/toys/samsung-yh-925/ |
| 15:07:31 | B4gder | yes, I mention that one |
| 15:07:39 | B4gder | the philips also use the same one |
| 15:07:48 | B4gder | not that it matters much, it is just interesting |
| 15:07:49 | markun | Ah yes, sorry |
| 15:08:35 | B4gder | crashd: you know of the h10 uses that db way? |
| 15:10:06 | Genre9mp3 | LOL B4gder! http://daniel.haxx.se/photos/snaxx-2002-09/IMG_0758.JPG |
| 15:10:19 | Genre9mp3 | I just found these photos... |
| 15:10:25 | LinusN | that's me |
| 15:10:25 | B4gder | :-] |
| 15:10:53 | Genre9mp3 | LinusN: I know... |
| 15:11:29 | Hansmaulwurf | nice t-shirt |
| 15:11:32 | Genre9mp3 | http://daniel.haxx.se/photos/snaxx-2002-09/IMG_0760.JPG |
| 15:11:42 | Genre9mp3 | hehe... |
| 15:12:11 | Hansmaulwurf | the URL is a bit out-of-date |
| 15:12:11 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 15:12:28 | petur | http://daniel.haxx.se/photos/snaxx-2002-09/IMG_0760.JPG |
| 15:12:41 | Jungti1234 | I want one. |
| 15:12:43 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 15:14:00 | crashd | B4gder: the h10 db specs are about, easyh10.sourceforge.net and some posts on misticriver have most of the info |
| 15:14:04 | crashd | dryft.net has some more, iirc |
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| 15:15:12 | B4gder | the same it is then |
| 15:15:22 | crashd | yeah, i'd guess |
| 15:15:29 | crashd | filename look the same anyway, at least, the extensions |
| 15:15:36 | B4gder | and even path |
| 15:15:41 | crashd | yer |
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| 15:22:18 | linuxstb | Bagder: No, the ipod database looks different to that. |
| 15:22:31 | linuxstb | B4gder even... |
| 15:22:38 | B4gder | ok |
| 15:23:07 | B4gder | obviously at least 4 different brands of PP players use it |
| 15:23:17 | linuxstb | But tagcache means we can avoid these proprietory databases anyway. |
| 15:23:48 | B4gder | yes, it just just a little detail, hardly anything that matters to Rockbox |
| 15:24:42 | linuxstb | So you can just drag and drop files anywhere on the player, and the database updates itself? |
| 15:24:54 | B4gder | yes |
| 15:25:10 | linuxstb | Is that fully automatic? |
| 15:25:14 | B4gder | yes |
| 15:25:25 | preglow | tagcache still needs to be updated manually, yes? |
| 15:25:30 | B4gder | I haven't tried it much yet but the little I have it found out by itself |
| 15:25:48 | B4gder | and this thing only allows browsing by db |
| 15:26:03 | petur | preglow: only the first time I think |
| 15:26:05 | linuxstb | preglow: I've got a feeling that tagcache updates automatically if you use dircache and store tagcache in RAM. |
| 15:26:49 | preglow | roit |
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| 15:27:01 | preglow | all sane people use dircache anyway, right? :> |
| 15:27:12 | linuxstb | Absolutely... Although I keep forgetting to turn it back on. |
| 15:27:40 | preglow | only times i don't use it is when settings have been reset and i didn't notice |
| 15:29:05 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 15:31:14 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/irivere10/1734 http://cafe.naver.com/irivere10/1736 |
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| 15:32:11 | antil33t | hello |
| 15:34:00 | Jungti1234 | I will study it little more in detail on weekend. |
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| 15:36:22 | B4gder | Jungti1234: the CPU has an ARM core that is for sure, but it is a Samsung chip so the markings on the chip can proably be used to identify exactly which |
| 15:36:48 | B4gder | as you said, call samsung and ask about which of their chips it is |
| 15:36:55 | antil33t | hmm... |
| 15:37:42 | B4gder | it doesn't look like the gigabeat ones |
| 15:37:54 | Jungti1234 | Different? |
| 15:38:04 | B4gder | compare with http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatHardwareComponents |
| 15:38:29 | antil33t | may i ask a question? |
| 15:38:41 | B4gder | just ask, don't ask if you can ask |
| 15:38:42 | Jungti1234 | Is it datasheet???! |
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| 15:39:07 | antil33t | ok, if i dont like rockbox on my ipod, can i remove it and put back the old firmware? |
| 15:39:19 | B4gder | yes |
| 15:39:19 | Jungti1234 | ... |
| 15:39:27 | B4gder | to both ;-) |
| 15:39:31 | antil33t | ah.. |
| 15:39:36 | petur | antil33t: it's dual boot |
| 15:39:45 | antil33t | o.. thats cool |
| 15:39:52 | antil33t | i just gotta figure out howto install.. |
| 15:40:00 | petur | see the wiki |
| 15:40:02 | linuxstb | What player do you have? |
| 15:40:14 | antil33t | ipod 5g |
| 15:40:16 | antil33t | 30gb |
| 15:40:34 | antil33t | does it matter that its full? |
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| 15:40:42 | antil33t | well 200mb free |
| 15:40:46 | linuxstb | Then start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 15:40:53 | antil33t | ty |
| 15:41:01 | linuxstb | No, Rockbox will just take up a few MB |
| 15:41:13 | antil33t | ok |
| 15:41:16 | antil33t | sweet |
| 15:41:22 | antil33t | i think i like this |
| 15:41:46 | linuxstb | During the installation, you'll create a file called "bootpartition.bin". Make sure you keep that safe - you'll need it if you ever want to remove Rockbox completely. |
| 15:41:53 | antil33t | yeah |
| 15:42:03 | antil33t | ive removed the ipods firmware and put it back on again |
| 15:42:19 | antil33t | i got bored one night |
| 15:43:10 | antil33t | heh im atually gonna screw with a 500 odd dollar unit.. |
| 15:43:42 | markun | B4gder: the samsung arm was custom made for iriver I believe |
| 15:44:02 | B4gder | oh |
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| 15:44:34 | antil33t | right im going to try this |
| 15:44:37 | markun | But I was not able to find much info: http://www.themp3players.com/archives/2005/07/inside-iriver-t10/ |
| 15:44:37 | antil33t | thanks for your help |
| 15:45:25 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 15:45:39 | markun | B4gder: the same series of CPUs is used by the iriver H10jr, T10, T20, E10, U10 and clix |
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| 15:47:30 | antil33t | crap its funny when you find blood all over your finger |
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| 15:48:01 | B4gder | ... and can't find your wife nor remember what you did the last hour? |
| 15:48:15 | antil33t | im not married |
| 15:48:19 | antil33t | or old enough |
| 15:48:24 | antil33t | well at least i think im not |
| 15:50:50 | antil33t | oh so that 1.4 mb file i downloaded isnt rockbox, but the bootloader? |
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| 15:51:08 | linuxstb | What's the file called? 1.4mb sounds like Rockbox. |
| 15:51:35 | antil33t | rockbox-ipodvideo |
| 15:51:47 | linuxstb | .zip ? |
| 15:51:51 | antil33t | yep |
| 15:51:53 | antil33t | .zip |
| 15:52:10 | linuxstb | That's Rockbox itself. You should also download the fonts zip file. |
| 15:52:30 | antil33t | yep |
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| 15:52:48 | antil33t | so, when i install it does it come up with a sellector for eaither os? |
| 15:53:16 | linuxstb | No. It defaults to loading Rockbox. Hold MENU as it's booting to start the Apple firmware. |
| 15:53:25 | antil33t | cool |
| 15:53:59 | lou | (you dont want apple firmware anymore anyway after trying rockbox) |
| 15:54:06 | antil33t | so rockbox has a rebooter? or is it just the center+play key |
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| 15:55:03 | lou | press play for ~5 secs to shut the ipod down |
| 15:55:13 | linuxstb | You can turn the ipod off from inside Rockbox (hold PLAY for a few seconds). Then pressing MENU or the CENTRE button will turn it back on. |
| 15:55:20 | lou | by pressing MENU you bring it back up |
| 15:55:41 | antil33t | oh yep |
| 15:55:44 | antil33t | then when you reload it |
| 15:55:47 | antil33t | hold down menu? |
| 15:55:51 | antil33t | to start the normal ipod |
| 15:55:53 | lou | jep |
| 15:55:59 | antil33t | cool |
| 15:56:10 | linuxstb | Yes, from the off state, if you press MENU to turn it on and never let go, it should start the apple firmware. |
| 15:56:21 | antil33t | cool |
| 15:56:24 | antil33t | now to get installing.. |
| 15:57:47 | antil33t | you need to put the ipod into bootloader mode dont you? |
| 15:57:52 | antil33t | because it doesnt say to |
| 15:58:45 | linuxstb | bootloader mode? |
| 15:59:00 | antil33t | where it makes the ipod into a hardrive |
| 15:59:23 | linuxstb | disk mode, yes. |
| 15:59:39 | antil33t | how do i do that? |
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| 16:00:03 | antil33t | i cant rember |
| 16:00:23 | antil33t | oh never mind |
| 16:00:24 | antil33t | god it |
| 16:00:26 | antil33t | got it |
| 16:01:49 | lou | there is a step-by-step instruction on rockbox.org |
| 16:01:55 | lou | its near to failproof |
| 16:01:58 | antil33t | i beleve im there |
| 16:02:03 | antil33t | and its weird.. |
| 16:02:08 | antil33t | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 16:02:35 | lou | thats the one yes |
| 16:05:35 | antil33t | hmm got the boot partiton of |
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| 16:12:13 | linuxstb | How big is it? |
| 16:12:39 | antil33t | 80mb |
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| 16:13:06 | antil33t | and the video chip firmware is 5.1mb |
| 16:13:22 | antil33t | hmm |
| 16:13:37 | antil33t | it says it cant open apple_os.bin |
| 16:13:58 | linuxstb | Did you create it? |
| 16:14:24 | linuxstb | The step before the step where you extracted the video chip firmware. |
| 16:14:28 | antil33t | bootpartition.bin? |
| 16:14:59 | linuxstb | d.1) |
| 16:15:32 | antil33t | created |
| 16:15:52 | antil33t | dual monitors can be messy |
| 16:16:19 | antil33t | ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
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| 16:17:53 | Mikachu | what's the define for multivolume? |
| 16:18:01 | Mikachu | experimenting a bit :) |
| 16:18:42 | linuxstb | Check the config-ondio files |
| 16:18:48 | XavierGr | the build table seems strange... |
| 16:18:52 | markun | B4gder: to decode the numbers on iriver's samsung CPUs: http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/Support/Label_CodeInfo/SIP.pdf |
| 16:19:14 | antil33t | yay installed the bootloader |
| 16:19:17 | Mikachu | heh, it was MULTIVOLUME |
| 16:20:14 | Mikachu | this will be exciting, made a second fat partition in blocks 3-10 |
| 16:20:27 | antil33t | ahh sweet |
| 16:20:39 | Mikachu | 60 extra MB |
| 16:21:52 | antil33t | hmm |
| 16:21:53 | antil33t | yay |
| 16:21:57 | XavierGr | Mikachu? |
| 16:22:32 | antil33t | sweet |
| 16:23:26 | Mikachu | hooray, it works |
| 16:23:43 | antil33t | yeah i just got rockbox installed onto my ipod yay |
| 16:24:03 | XavierGr | antil33t: now sit back and enjoy it! |
| 16:24:07 | antil33t | heh |
| 16:24:08 | antil33t | i will |
| 16:24:12 | Mikachu | XavierGr: 60 extra MB on 2GB nano is nice |
| 16:24:19 | Mikachu | it means another album |
| 16:24:32 | antil33t | anything else i should put on? |
| 16:24:47 | Mikachu | but i don't want to risk corrupting my main partition by extending it forwadr |
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| 16:25:31 | XavierGr | Mikachu how you achieved that? |
| 16:25:40 | petur | antil33t: check the forums and the wps gallery in the wiki |
| 16:25:43 | Mikachu | #define MULTIVOLUME in config-ipodnano.h |
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| 16:26:55 | antil33t | ok rockbox... looks... different.. its got tiny font! |
| 16:27:35 | markun | antil33t: there is font package on the rockbox download page |
| 16:27:44 | antil33t | sweet |
| 16:27:51 | ashridah | there are themes to deal with that. |
| 16:27:52 | antil33t | you know that .rockbox folder? |
| 16:28:08 | antil33t | do i put the folder .rocbox into the ipod |
| 16:28:21 | antil33t | or do i put its contence into the ipod? |
| 16:28:30 | markun | the folder |
| 16:28:38 | antil33t | k because it doesnt do anything.. |
| 16:28:39 | antil33t | lol |
| 16:29:05 | antil33t | oh push menu |
| 16:29:12 | antil33t | hehe this is leet |
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| 16:30:07 | B4gder | I thought you were anti that? ;-) |
| 16:30:11 | antil33t | now wheres that font thing? |
| 16:30:18 | antil33t | i was anti what? |
| 16:30:23 | lou | leet |
| 16:30:28 | B4gder | your nick |
| 16:30:30 | antil33t | lol |
| 16:30:30 | antil33t | yeah |
| 16:30:38 | antil33t | well, |
| 16:30:44 | antil33t | my old nickname was antil33t |
| 16:30:53 | antil33t | so my new nickname is really antil33t |
| 16:31:00 | antil33t | its all OCNZ's fault |
| 16:31:28 | antil33t | now wheres that font pack? |
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| 16:33:11 | Hansmaulwurf | antil33t: Daily Builds |
| 16:33:13 | Hansmaulwurf | the last one |
| 16:33:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 16:33:21 | Hansmaulwurf | has a Rockbox logo |
| 16:33:28 | antil33t | thanks |
| 16:33:32 | Hansmaulwurf | its called "fonts" :P |
| 16:33:40 | antil33t | yeah i was looking in the wrong place |
| 16:35:30 | antil33t | ahha so i can at least tell people i installed it at 2:35 am |
| 16:36:29 | petur | what? it's 4:35pm here :p |
| 16:36:51 | antil33t | im in new zeland |
| 16:37:01 | petur | oh.... |
| 16:37:11 | * | petur wants to go hiking there |
| 16:37:16 | antil33t | heh |
| 16:37:20 | antil33t | its winter atm |
| 16:37:22 | antil33t | and theres snow |
| 16:37:34 | petur | lucky b*st*rd |
| 16:37:34 | klrspz | winter? |
| 16:37:37 | klrspz | summer here |
| 16:37:44 | antil33t | lol |
| 16:37:49 | antil33t | now how does one change the font? |
| 16:38:06 | klrspz | in the display settings |
| 16:38:09 | petur | easiest way is to load a theme |
| 16:38:14 | klrspz | or that |
| 16:38:27 | klrspz | speaking of, i need to make a nice theme |
| 16:39:08 | antil33t | ok i like this |
| 16:39:12 | antil33t | its so more computer like |
| 16:39:23 | antil33t | i just wont be playing music on it (yet) |
| 16:39:57 | petur | lucky you didn't install ipodlinux then ;) |
| 16:40:16 | antil33t | hah i couldnt be bothered |
| 16:40:18 | klrspz | speaking of WPS'... what exactly does the status bar do? i didn't see anything change when i changed the theme on my side |
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| 16:41:42 | klrspz | also, can one capture the levels of the peakmeter and assign images to it? |
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| 16:42:35 | antil33t | does the backlight stay on all the time? |
| 16:42:37 | klrspz | and lastly, one more annyoing question.. is there going to be better support for theming? (ie, absolute positioning, different fonts on the same screen, etc) |
| 16:42:40 | klrspz | antil33t, you can set that as well |
| 16:42:52 | XavierGr | what happened at rockbox front page? |
| 16:42:53 | klrspz | i highly encourage just going through every single option and playing with it |
| 16:43:09 | petur | klrspz: 3.1 will have viewports (absolute positioning) |
| 16:43:15 | klrspz | awesome |
| 16:43:16 | klrspz | can't wait |
| 16:43:20 | XavierGr | oh the sponsors tab got saperated! |
| 16:43:41 | klrspz | i wish i had time to get into the code :( |
| 16:43:57 | klrspz | i love rockbox so much, i wish i could be a part of it :~( |
| 16:44:23 | antil33t | heh now it turns off |
| 16:44:48 | petur | antil33t: read the manual or look at all the settings in the menu |
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| 16:45:39 | antil33t | yeah i thnk i need to |
| 16:47:03 | petur | antil33t: and when you have everything configured to your liking, export your settings as .cfg as backup |
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| 16:48:31 | cgray | hi all, i have a little problem with rockbox on my sister's ipod nano |
| 16:49:01 | klrspz | actually, make many as you are configuring :) |
| 16:49:07 | antil33t | oh yep |
| 16:49:11 | cgray | she hit a button (she says it was "clear backdrop") and now the screen goes blank right after rockbox boots up |
| 16:49:12 | ryran | cgray: what's the problem? |
| 16:49:28 | klrspz | i've had the irresponsible habit of getting a new binary after making some changes and it screws up |
| 16:49:31 | antil33t | maybe the font and the background are the same colour :) |
| 16:49:43 | petur | cgray: switch on hold while rb is booting |
| 16:49:44 | klrspz | cgray, boot up, and put HOLD on to disable settings |
| 16:49:50 | petur | it will reset your settings |
| 16:49:57 | klrspz | then load your cfg or create a new one |
| 16:50:02 | cgray | klrspz: how do i put hold on? |
| 16:50:08 | klrspz | cgray, what device? |
| 16:50:11 | cgray | nano |
| 16:50:19 | klrspz | on top, there's a small slider button |
| 16:50:33 | * | petur starts looking at his other monitor |
| 16:50:58 | * | ryran wishes he had two monitors... |
| 16:51:11 | cgray | sweet... thanks guys |
| 16:51:16 | antil33t | ok now heres a bug |
| 16:51:25 | antil33t | when i choose a song |
| 16:51:29 | petur | hahahaha |
| 16:51:37 | petur | a bug? only one? |
| 16:51:38 | antil33t | the play screen is completley retarded |
| 16:51:40 | klrspz | you've had the software for like 10 minutes and now there's a bug? |
| 16:51:41 | XavierGr | perfect avatar for B4gder: http://www.avatarity.com/avatar.php?aid=5191 |
| 16:51:43 | XavierGr | :P |
| 16:51:45 | antil33t | yeah :) |
| 16:52:03 | klrspz | antil33t, can you define "completely retarded" |
| 16:52:11 | ryran | lol |
| 16:52:13 | B4gder | :-P |
| 16:52:37 | antil33t | well tgers the song info in the middle |
| 16:52:40 | antil33t | and theres some blue lines |
| 16:52:49 | klrspz | ahh, that's the theme |
| 16:53:00 | antil33t | yeah and you cant read the song names? |
| 16:53:05 | klrspz | one of the default themes doesn't work too well on the nano i believe |
| 16:53:08 | antil33t | so maybe the theme is buggy |
| 16:53:11 | antil33t | ive got a video |
| 16:53:19 | klrspz | it's been a while since i've done a install of rockbox :) |
| 16:53:23 | antil33t | heh |
| 16:53:25 | antil33t | got a theme? |
| 16:53:37 | petur | antil33t: wpsgallery in the wiki |
| 16:53:40 | klrspz | i use some bl ue one, i haven't made one yet |
| 16:53:52 | klrspz | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano |
| 16:53:52 | markun | antil33t: rockbox-themes.org |
| 16:54:00 | klrspz | i use iPod Vision Nano |
| 16:54:10 | antil33t | www.rockbox-themes.org |
| 16:54:19 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 16:54:53 | klrspz | bbl, got some work to do |
| 16:55:00 | antil33t | thx :) |
| 16:55:00 | antil33t | cya |
| 16:55:51 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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| 16:56:03 | antil33t | just dling the theme |
| 16:56:46 | antil33t | where do i put the theme? |
| 16:56:54 | antil33t | theres no read me file :( |
| 16:57:08 | antil33t | meh ignore me |
| 16:57:09 | petur | most have a tree struc in them, just unzip |
| 16:57:16 | antil33t | yeah |
| 16:57:21 | antil33t | i read back where i dled it from |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:44 | antil33t | nope still not theming right.. |
| 17:00:46 | antil33t | lol |
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| 17:01:39 | antil33t | oh fixed it :) |
| 17:01:45 | petur | did you do menu -> browse themes ? |
| 17:01:59 | antil33t | hmm no |
| 17:02:05 | antil33t | ill go do that |
| 17:02:16 | petur | or execute the cfg file of the theme |
| 17:02:30 | antil33t | thats what i did Laughing Out Loud |
| 17:02:43 | antil33t | it has a loading light/thing |
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| 17:03:28 | hardeep | cvs build appears to be stuck |
| 17:03:40 | petur | all day.... |
| 17:04:03 | petur | B4gder is playing with his sansa :) |
| 17:04:09 | chendo1 | just a possibly paranoid question: it's fine to flash directly from a 1.02 US to a patched 1.29K yeah? or should i upgrade to 1.04 US first or something ;x |
| 17:04:23 | chendo1 | putting rockbox on girlfriend's H320 and i kinda don't wanna brick it ;p |
| 17:04:31 | chendo1 | (since it's like, 2 days old) |
| 17:04:40 | petur | chendo1: sure, but you know you'll lose DRM |
| 17:04:45 | chendo1 | oh she doesn't care |
| 17:04:51 | chendo1 | she prefers pacman to DRM. |
| 17:04:58 | petur | lol |
| 17:05:00 | B4gder | hardeep: it got stuck but I've fixed it, it'll heal on next commit |
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| 17:05:11 | antil33t | drm.. sounds evil |
| 17:05:21 | chendo1 | okay, so just to double check... |
| 17:05:35 | chendo1 | i download original 1.29K, download the fwpatcher, 300 bootloader bin |
| 17:05:46 | antil33t | she should have got an ipod |
| 17:05:48 | antil33t | lol |
| 17:05:48 | antil33t | :) |
| 17:05:48 | chendo1 | patch it, copy onto mp3 player, copy a rockbox build, then flash? |
| 17:05:55 | chendo1 | she hates ipods |
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| 17:06:10 | antil33t | hmm there easy to install rockbox on |
| 17:06:12 | petur | she should have gotten a EU version |
| 17:06:15 | chendo1 | i told her mum to get a 2gb T10 though, very nice, had a play with it |
| 17:06:24 | chendo1 | petur: H300s are scarce in australia now... |
| 17:06:30 | chendo1 | only place that stocked it only had US |
| 17:06:38 | chendo1 | otherwise yeah, would've gotten an international |
| 17:06:44 | petur | I'll wait for a 2tb G10 :D |
| 17:06:49 | chendo1 | 2TB? ;p |
| 17:06:57 | antil33t | rigo See Ya im gonna go to bed to play with this rocbox thing |
| 17:07:00 | antil33t | thanks for your help |
| 17:07:07 | chendo1 | so |
| 17:07:14 | petur | np |
| 17:07:17 | chendo1 | patched h300.hex = 4,190,208 bytes? |
| 17:07:25 | chendo1 | i'd md5sum it but i lack a tool. |
| 17:07:42 | petur | fwpatcher does that for you already |
| 17:07:50 | petur | (iirc) |
| 17:07:52 | chendo1 | mmmm |
| 17:07:54 | chendo1 | if you say so |
| 17:08:00 | B4gder | yes it does |
| 17:08:41 | chendo1 | and is there an updated version of the H300 color WPS pack? |
| 17:08:44 | chendo1 | the one that's sticked seems a bit old |
| 17:10:36 | chendo1 | on the misticriver forums* |
| 17:10:45 | B4gder | then ask them for a newer one |
| 17:10:50 | B4gder | that's no official package |
| 17:10:55 | B4gder | from rockbox I mean |
| 17:11:42 | chendo1 | i thought they commit stuff into CVS or something |
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| 17:15:11 | chendo1 | uh... do the ipod video/photo have the same screen size as the H300? |
| 17:15:21 | chendo1 | or are the wps themes lumped together for the hell of it? |
| 17:16:02 | Presence | ipod video has larger screen & resolution than ipod photo. |
| 17:17:04 | markun | chendo1: photo/color has the same resolution as the H300 |
| 17:17:56 | chendo1 | not video though yeah? |
| 17:18:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, not video. |
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| 17:18:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the Video is not lumped in with the Photo and H300 section |
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| 17:18:45 | preglow | only times i don't use it is when settings have been reset and i didn't notice |
| 17:18:49 | preglow | bargh |
| 17:18:56 | preglow | disregard that |
| 17:19:18 | B4gder | /set disregard_mode 1 |
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| 17:26:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does anyone know what happens if you send in an "information request" at portalplayer's site with the "product data sheets" box ticked off? |
| 17:26:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Are these pr / advertising style 'data' sheets? |
| 17:27:45 | B4gder | I would guess they are of that kind |
| 17:28:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably. |
| 17:30:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm trying to figure out what the best point of contact would be regarding an actual request. |
| 17:31:45 | ashridah | figure out some way to get a bank loan to order enough 'engineering samples' or evaluation units or something? :) |
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| 17:32:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 17:32:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | I guess of their listed contacts, "Product Information" is better than "media contact" or "employment information" |
| 17:33:01 | petur | hehe |
| 17:33:16 | B4gder | we need a mole, try employment! |
| 17:33:17 | petur | get employed there, get the docs and get out again |
| 17:33:22 | petur | haha |
| 17:34:12 | preglow | haha |
| 17:34:29 | B4gder | with 95% business with a company that dumped it, you may not have to work there very long ;-) |
| 17:34:48 | chendo1 | okay, weird |
| 17:35:00 | ashridah | wait. apple dumped portalplayer? |
| 17:35:03 | chendo1 | i flashed the iriver with the patched 1.29k |
| 17:35:07 | B4gder | ashridah: yeps |
| 17:35:11 | chendo1 | i don't get a rockbox bootloader screen at all... |
| 17:35:16 | ashridah | who are they replacing them with? |
| 17:35:19 | B4gder | ashridah: samsung |
| 17:35:36 | chendo1 | and it feels like i have to press it down for a while to get the normal screen to boot. |
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| 17:36:58 | mongey1 | im compiling rockbox but i want to change the boot logo |
| 17:37:04 | mongey1 | can i have it any size? |
| 17:37:55 | Mikachu | you may need to change some code if you change the size |
| 17:38:07 | Mikachu | but as long as it's not larger than the screen it might work anyway |
| 17:38:55 | linuxstb | The logo's drawn at a fixed 10 pixels from the top of the screen - you can change that in the show_logo() function in apps/misc.c |
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| 17:41:05 | chendo1 | uh |
| 17:41:13 | chendo1 | i think i semi-bricked my h320.... |
| 17:41:19 | markun | nice |
| 17:41:20 | markun | how? |
| 17:41:26 | chendo1 | i can't seem to turn it on unless i plug the AC adaptor in. |
| 17:41:45 | chendo1 | markun: downloaded 1.29k, patched it, flashed it. |
| 17:42:25 | markun | At least it boots with the charger so you can flash it again. |
| 17:42:29 | chendo1 | mmm |
| 17:42:39 | chendo1 | so what should i do? reflash with the same 1.29k? or repatch and reflash? |
| 17:42:42 | petur | chendo1: flash it again. I've read reports that some units needed to be flashed twice. Unexplainable |
| 17:42:58 | chendo1 | so same binary? or repatch it? |
| 17:43:04 | petur | same file |
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| 17:44:40 | chendo1 | phew... thank god i changed to english first |
| 17:44:47 | chendo1 | it was in korean and i thought it was below DB Scan... |
| 17:44:49 | chendo1 | but that was format, hah |
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| 17:46:07 | chendo1 | phew, that fixed it |
| 17:46:09 | chendo1 | thanks petur |
| 17:46:09 | chendo1 | weird. |
| 17:46:23 | petur | as I said, enexplainable |
| 17:46:28 | chendo1 | eh |
| 17:46:31 | chendo1 | really slow to boot too. |
| 17:46:32 | petur | unexplainable too |
| 17:46:46 | chendo1 | slow to boot? ;o |
| 17:46:49 | petur | slow? |
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| 17:47:22 | chendo1 | hung on the batt: 4.12v for like 10 seconds. |
| 17:47:30 | chendo1 | i'm in now, but yeah |
| 17:47:48 | petur | weird |
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| 17:52:20 | mongey1 | is there a way yo just have a logo come up and not the writing |
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| 17:52:53 | chendo1 | second bootup faster, but still slower than mine |
| 17:53:26 | petur | it should boot in 5 seconds or so |
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| 17:54:12 | petur | euh... 10 seconds from keypress to actually browsing |
| 17:54:17 | chendo1 | about yeah, but mine boots faster ;/ |
| 17:54:23 | chendo1 | oh well, not important |
| 17:54:38 | chendo1 | now... pacman. |
| 17:55:12 | tucoz | mongey1: you got cygwin running? Or did you go for another solution? |
| 17:57:19 | mongey1 | i put it on my mams laptop |
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| 17:57:28 | tucoz | ok |
| 17:57:45 | mongey1 | does this computer being 64 bit make a diff? |
| 17:58:02 | tucoz | the one you struggle with? |
| 17:58:09 | tucoz | or your moms laptop? |
| 17:58:16 | chendo1 | windows? |
| 17:58:40 | tucoz | No, is the one you're having trouble with 64 bit? |
| 17:59:32 | mongey1 | ye |
| 17:59:57 | mongey1 | 64 bit = the troubled one |
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| 18:00:13 | tucoz | Ok. I don't know. Maybe google does :) |
| 18:01:02 | mongey1 | well im having trouble now |
| 18:01:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Anyone around who could read my draft to PortalPlayer and tell me what they think? |
| 18:01:18 | mongey1 | zip error nothing to do |
| 18:03:14 | tucoz | mongey1: I found a page on google telling me that since cygwin added 64 bit file i/o, a lot of packages had to be recompiled and linked |
| 18:03:24 | petur | Paul_The_Nerd: sure |
| 18:04:10 | tucoz | It could be that LinusN's packages don't work for 64 bit archs |
| 18:04:47 | tucoz | I am not sure if this is hard, but you could try and compile the cross-compiler yourself and see if that works |
| 18:06:27 | chendo1 | depends what disto you're on |
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| 18:08:08 | tucoz | chendo1: it's cygwin |
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| 18:13:56 | chendo1 | lol |
| 18:13:59 | chendo1 | sorry i got no clue on that |
| 18:18:10 | tucoz | there seems to be a handy script in the tools folder that does this for you. It's called rockboxdev.sh |
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| 18:33:18 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:37:46 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does the "My Sandisk player has arrived" dance |
| 18:39:15 | XavierGr | It's been a while since I last saw a Rockbox dance!! :P |
| 18:39:27 | lou | which model? |
| 18:39:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | e270 |
| 18:40:06 | lou | the 6G thing? |
| 18:40:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 18:41:30 | lou | what i dont understand is |
| 18:41:33 | tucoz | sweet |
| 18:41:51 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: Enjoy your new toy! :) |
| 18:41:59 | lou | why do you pay ~$250 dollar for a 6G mp3 player when you can have a 30G ipod for the same price |
| 18:42:29 | Rick | compare features? |
| 18:42:36 | Rick | 'sides, most people consider ipod to be evil :P |
| 18:42:45 | Genre9mp3 | lou: Don't try to spoil other people's moments! :-P |
| 18:42:52 | lou | :) |
| 18:42:55 | Rick | hehehe |
| 18:42:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | lou: Because a 30g ipod is $300 and this was $230. And this one will not suffer no matter HOW much I shake it while playing. |
| 18:43:18 | lou | fair enough |
| 18:43:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | A 30 gig iPod has an HD in it, and overall less features. |
| 18:43:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I've already got a much better 20 gig HD based player anyway. ;) |
| 18:43:34 | Genre9mp3 | ...and for god shakes...it's an iPod! LOL |
| 18:43:54 | Rick | Genre9mp3: what is an ipod? |
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| 18:44:03 | lou | ipod suits my gucci shades :P |
| 18:45:06 | Rick | Paul_The_Nerd: so are you going to work on some rockbox-e270? :P |
| 18:45:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rick: Well my first priority is to learn the playback code, but once 3.0 happens I'll probably do what I can to help with the e200 series, yes. |
| 18:46:06 | Rick | ah |
| 18:46:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not nearly as experienced as some of the other devs here, but I did help a *very* little bit with the iPod port, and I hope to do quite a bit more this time. |
| 18:46:58 | Rick | cool :) |
| 18:47:12 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: I wonder what is your opinion about the new iAudio 6.... |
| 18:47:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: My opinion is "It looks goofy" :-P |
| 18:47:50 | Genre9mp3 | goofy? |
| 18:47:54 | Genre9mp3 | why's that? |
| 18:48:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | That diagonal slidebar thing just looks funny to me. |
| 18:48:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean the player has an inverted % sign on it. |
| 18:48:39 | Genre9mp3 | It seems an excelent player to me... |
| 18:48:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably not bad in terms of features. |
| 18:49:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though it looks like the e200 series is a little better in that area. |
| 18:49:02 | Genre9mp3 | And the % thing is something that you can get used to... |
| 18:49:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though the iAudio 6 is a bit cheaper, so it becomes as "How much is X feature worth to you to add it?" |
| 18:49:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also, the 6 is microdrive based, isn't it? |
| 18:49:47 | Genre9mp3 | Does the Sansa have USBOTG at high speed? |
| 18:49:52 | Genre9mp3 | yes...microdrive |
| 18:49:56 | Genre9mp3 | 4GB |
| 18:50:02 | Genre9mp3 | and a nice OLED screen |
| 18:50:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Sansa doesn't have USBOTG at all. |
| 18:50:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's basically a tradeoff between the two of them, in the end. |
| 18:51:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | I personally don't see the point in buying a microdrive player. |
| 18:54:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have nothing against the iAudio 6, it looks nice. It's just not my type of player, I suppose |
| 18:55:55 | Genre9mp3 | Well I think that is a very capable player...full of features |
| 18:56:30 | Genre9mp3 | Radio, Line-In Recording, USBOTG etc. |
| 18:57:46 | Genre9mp3 | Though, as I understand it, Sansa's key feature over the iAudio 6 is the SD Card Reader |
| 18:57:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | And I never said it wasn't a very capable player |
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| 18:58:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Larger capacity, flash, larger and higher resolution screen, video support, Micro-SD card reader (including Gruvi cards which is what they're pushing as a new way to sell music, I suppose) and I guess maybe a few other things |
| 18:58:50 | Genre9mp3 | well, yes..it is just a "goofy capable player" :-P |
| 18:59:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm fine with a horizontal or a vertical slider, but diagonal just seems strange to me. |
| 18:59:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll admit it's definitely more space-efficient for a long scroll |
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| 19:00:33 | Genre9mp3 | AFAIK the iAudio 6 has also video support... |
| 19:00:35 | Pieter_ | hello! |
| 19:00:44 | Genre9mp3 | MPEG4 playback |
| 19:00:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: I didn't see it listed. I may have missed it. |
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| 19:00:59 | Pieter_ | so i bought an Archos PMA a while back, and while it's really great, it would be nice to have rockbox running on it for some extra features |
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| 19:01:21 | Pieter_ | how hard would it be to port the simulator to it, as it already runs linux (and even sdl, with some limitations?) |
| 19:02:00 | webguest82 | it apeears that a build has "stalled" on the cvs builds page |
| 19:02:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pieter_: It probably wouldn't be too hard. |
| 19:03:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hmm... there's a lot of noise associated with the light-up wheel thingy. |
| 19:03:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | And the volume doesn't go low enough. =/ |
| 19:03:47 | tucoz | webguest82: that is fixed. The next commit will fix that |
| 19:04:17 | Pieter_ | if i find enough time to go check what has to be done perhaps i will... |
| 19:05:32 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_The_Nerd: What's that light-up feature on the wheel? |
| 19:06:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Genre9mp3: When you turn the wheel, it lights up this very nice blue color, but with my CX300s I can hear a lot of noise when the wheel is lit. |
| 19:06:32 | Genre9mp3 | I see... |
| 19:06:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | As a note, I can't hear it with my PX100s, except a very very very very faint tick when the light turns off. |
| 19:08:02 | Genre9mp3 | It's funny that suddenly we have 3 Sansa players to talk about (Bagder's and yours) |
| 19:08:29 | * | amiconn appears |
| 19:08:33 | webguest82 | does the sansa play gapless ? |
| 19:08:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I've been unhappy with the Nano so I was looking for a flash based player with a certain list of features. |
| 19:08:44 | amiconn | tucoz: You wanted to ask sth? |
| 19:09:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | webguest82: I don't have anything to test that with at the moment, but I seem to recall ports that it doesn't, so I'm going to assume they're valid and not bother checking because I'm lazy. :) |
| 19:09:13 | Galois | what do you not like about the nano? |
| 19:09:16 | tucoz | amiconn: yes. What is the on button on the ondios? with regards to the flashing section |
| 19:09:32 | amiconn | Hmm? |
| 19:09:57 | tucoz | in the Known issues and limitations section at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox |
| 19:09:57 | * | amiconn wonders what's the connection of flashing with the On button |
| 19:10:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Galois: Primarily the fact that it has no built in mic, and I wanted something small that I can use for taking voice memos and also as a music player. |
| 19:10:09 | amiconn | mompls |
| 19:10:12 | tucoz | ok |
| 19:10:40 | Galois | I see. For me the main drawback is that it has a little less space than I would like. |
| 19:11:16 | amiconn | tucoz: Wrt the boot options, On is the combined OnOff on Ondio |
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| 19:11:30 | tucoz | ok. Thanks |
| 19:11:35 | amiconn | But the flashing instructions are terribly outdated, even the wiki version |
| 19:11:49 | tucoz | I see. Well the wiki version is in the manual now at least |
| 19:11:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Galois: I also like the FM Radio feature of the Sansa (iAudio 6 has as well) just because it's nice to be able to check weather/news/etc. |
| 19:12:02 | amiconn | I already have them on my todo list, but 3.0 itself is more important imho |
| 19:12:28 | tucoz | That's ok with me |
| 19:13:01 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Hehe, the Ondio has all those things you mention that the Sansa has, but the Nano doesn't |
| 19:13:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder though, why they chose to use the USB cable as the FM antenna. |
| 19:13:08 | amiconn | (radio, recording, built-in mic) |
| 19:13:28 | amiconn | And expandable storage via flash memory cards |
| 19:13:30 | * | Genre9mp3 is downloading Sansa's e200 manual |
| 19:13:39 | Galois | I never used radio or recording even when I had mp3 players that supported it, so ... no loss for me |
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| 19:13:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Yes, it does, and I seriously considered it for quite a while, but the Nano was given to me as a gift anyway. ;) |
| 19:14:00 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: I like the iCatcher wps (except: on Archos only halfway) and I appreciate that you developed it for all targets :) - but I noticed that some of the code (regarding artist, album, title) could be written simpler IMO |
| 19:14:39 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: In what way simpler? |
| 19:14:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: The Sansa doesn't *seem* to have the hiss that the iPods and iRivers have by the way, but there's definitely some noise being caused by something during video playback, and the LED for the wheel causes some. I can't get the volume low enough to be absolutely sure though. |
| 19:15:16 | amiconn | What about silence in tracks? |
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| 19:16:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Do you think pausing would be good enough, or should I find something actually silent? |
| 19:16:11 | amiconn | When looking at the images on Bagder's page, I think the Sansa is quite big for a flash player |
| 19:16:34 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Well, just encode a digital silence track, and play that |
| 19:16:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: It's smaller than a Nano in an iSkin, for what that's worth. |
| 19:16:46 | amiconn | Btw, what formats does Sansa of play? |
| 19:17:01 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: I just made it to show info if an ID3 tag is not present |
| 19:17:12 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: to give you an example: the title line would be shorter and should work the same as if it looked... |
| 19:17:14 | pixelma | ...%s%ac%?in<%in - |%pp - >%?it<%it|%fm> |
| 19:18:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Nothing special. MP3, WMA, DRMWMA and WAV if I recall. |
| 19:18:47 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: You are probably right |
| 19:18:51 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: also have alternatives for album and artist tags |
| 19:19:01 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: No ogg... what else to expect ;) |
| 19:19:17 | amiconn | Making a digital-zero .wav should be dead simple |
| 19:19:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I don't have anything to make one with, apparently. I swear I had some sort of audio tool on my laptop. Recommend something for windows by chance? |
| 19:20:17 | * | amiconn uses Audacity |
| 19:20:40 | Galois | dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=512 | oggenc -r -o silence.ogg - |
| 19:20:49 | Genre9mp3 | Pixelma: If I remember well I use alternatives for artist/album tags |
| 19:21:08 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: I use dir names |
| 19:21:09 | amiconn | Galois: That wouldn't help... no ogg support in retailos |
| 19:21:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd goes to download audacity. |
| 19:21:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hmm... the video support is better than I expected, considering the complaints I'd heard |
| 19:21:56 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: No I meant an simpler alternative to your code as in the 'title' example |
| 19:22:10 | Galois | dd if=/dev/zero bs=1024 count=5000 | lame -r - silence.mp3 |
| 19:22:11 | Galois | :P |
| 19:22:18 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: I see... |
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| 19:23:11 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: BTW I'm planning to make additional colour themes for colour targets of course.... |
| 19:23:40 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: interesting - but I have an Ondio ;) |
| 19:25:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, apparently no WAV support... because it uses a database only. |
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| 19:26:17 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: Also, I did my best to the tiny Archos screen....what exactly is that you dislike there? |
| 19:27:55 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: for me it wastes space with volume/battery shown as icons and numeric - and it doesn't have next song info |
| 19:28:36 | pixelma | I coded my own iCatcher version to change that |
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| 19:30:46 | Genre9mp3 | Well I don't have an Archos or Audio, so if you think it's better we can use your version then... |
| 19:31:11 | amiconn | Bagder: If you already opened your Sansa for checking the CPU type - any chance you took/will take PCB shots? |
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| 19:31:50 | Bagder | I didn't have my camera around (and my scanner sucks) |
| 19:32:05 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: I suppose that you arranged the info like the rwps? |
| 19:32:12 | Bagder | but it wasn't that hard to disassemble so I can do it again |
| 19:32:13 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/?getfile=11579 |
| 19:32:22 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: hmm, I don't know... do you want to take a look? |
| 19:32:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Very very low amount of noise. I have a 10 second silence mp3, for the first half there's a faint amount, the second half nothing I can hear at all. |
| 19:34:00 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: yes I put it this way - and the title moved above the progress bar and maked place for next song info |
| 19:34:32 | pixelma | *made |
| 19:36:11 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: I wouldn't mind changing the layout of the Archos wps in your way...If others also prefer it this way...As I said, I don't have an Ondio or an Archos, and I don't know how it is on real target |
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| 19:41:08 | Genre9mp3 | Hmmm...In case a used the wrong phrase....I don't have any problem with your change. If others also agree on this I guess is should get commited your way |
| 19:41:34 | pixelma | I understand, so where to start a survey? |
| 19:42:52 | Genre9mp3 | Eeer....here? |
| 19:43:02 | Genre9mp3 | forums maybe? |
| 19:43:55 | Genre9mp3 | Hmmm...I think it's better to add a poll in the forums... |
| 19:44:01 | pixelma | I'm not a forum member - so I will put a link here so that others can have a look - will take me a few minutes though |
| 19:44:22 | Genre9mp3 | ok |
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| 19:45:03 | hardeep | probably not enough archos users around nowadays to warrant a survey |
| 19:45:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | By "You will not be able to see songs from MTP mode in UMS mode" apparently they mean "The file attributes will be set to hidden" |
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| 19:46:41 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: BTW, Any progress with the rwps issue? |
| 19:48:55 | hardeep | Genre9mp3: i didn't a chance to fix it... it'll just be the same change as what i did for fonts |
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| 19:55:17 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: Currently only the H100 rwps is commited |
| 19:56:26 | hardeep | yeah, i'll fix it so both are available |
| 19:56:48 | Genre9mp3 | ok |
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| 19:58:32 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders if the players Bagder got sent include the license notice telling you that you're not allowed to reverse-engineer or disassemble the software. |
| 19:58:45 | Bagder | not that I noticed ;-) |
| 19:59:06 | Bagder | and btw, its not applicable in my country |
| 19:59:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mine was carefully folded up and hidden *behind* the CD in the sleeve. |
| 19:59:23 | merbanan | yey for sweden |
| 19:59:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just thought it'd be funny if they'd essentially asked you to do so, and then sent you a notice not to, at the same time. |
| 19:59:55 | Bagder | haha, yeah |
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| 20:00:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, from the sounds of it, any work done for the e200 series will probably quite benefit most of the reference-type PortalPlayer players (others using the MI4, IDX, etc etc setup)? |
| 20:01:08 | Bagder | yeps |
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| 20:01:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's kinda cool. |
| 20:01:42 | merbanan | is MI4 some kind of encryption ? |
| 20:02:09 | crashd | no, it's a file type that is encrypted in a specific way ;) |
| 20:02:14 | crashd | just nobody knows which particular way |
| 20:02:27 | crashd | well, somebody does, heh |
| 20:02:40 | Bagder | somebody at PP I bet ;-) |
| 20:02:48 | crashd | one has to hope so |
| 20:02:51 | crashd | otherwise they'd be fucked |
| 20:03:07 | merbanan | so the firmware is partly encrypted |
| 20:03:39 | merbanan | where can one look at one of these firmwares ? |
| 20:03:46 | Bagder | hang on |
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| 20:04:21 | merbanan | and is there a wikipage with current info ? |
| 20:04:53 | Bagder | not yet ;-) |
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| 20:11:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Their database generation feels slower than ours, but I don't really have a point of reference other than "feels" |
| 20:13:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which reminds me, I wonder why people haven't created a plugin to import the iTunes database yet. Wouldn't importing it to our format be faster than rescanning all the songs? Especially for people who like to use iTunes? |
| 20:13:11 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: have a look: http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/iCatcher_Archos.png <- note: the next song info on Archos is only available during the last minute (depends on bitrate and timing) and isn't right in the sim |
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| 20:14:38 | amiconn | Hmm, the isp1362 is still only dozing instead of sleeping :( |
| 20:15:08 | amiconn | I think I need to compare some pin signal levels between retailos and rockbox |
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| 20:15:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 20:16:53 | amiconn | Luckily iriver used the LQFP version, not the TFBGA one |
| 20:18:00 | * | amiconn starts a rarely used device - the printer |
| 20:18:16 | MrShlee | My H3XX crashed with a error message "I04 : Ill Instr at 32F0041E" |
| 20:18:22 | MrShlee | Make any sense? |
| 20:19:16 | amiconn | Crash in a codec |
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| 20:20:41 | * | Paul_The_Nerd suggests use of google. |
| 20:20:53 | Mikachu | or #php |
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| 20:25:24 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: cool... |
| 20:25:54 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: that's also with the cleaned up code ;) |
| 20:26:30 | Genre9mp3 | cool...now who's to decide? |
| 20:26:37 | Genre9mp3 | :/ |
| 20:26:53 | Genre9mp3 | OK...my opinion is that is better your way.... |
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| 20:26:59 | pixelma | I don't know either |
| 20:27:03 | Genre9mp3 | anyone disagrees on that? |
| 20:27:40 | pixelma | amiconn? since you have Archos' too? |
| 20:29:05 | hardeep | i like the newer version |
| 20:29:22 | Genre9mp3 | hardeep: me too |
| 20:29:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do the newer one. |
| 20:29:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Blame me if anyone objects. :-P |
| 20:30:16 | Genre9mp3 | Well..pixelma...I think you should send the file to hardeep (I don't have CVS access) |
| 20:30:16 | pixelma | oh thanks |
| 20:31:02 | Genre9mp3 | Mind that it should be named: iCatcher.112x64x1.wps |
| 20:31:49 | pixelma | Genre9mp3: I'd like to send it to you, 'cause (as I said) I changed something else too |
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| 20:48:29 | klrspz | weird |
| 20:48:36 | Amon-san | hi everyone |
| 20:50:24 | Amon-san | i was wondering if rockbox was planning support Pontis SP-600 in their firmware-project |
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| 21:13:02 | markun | Amon-san: It's not planned. But if any SP-600 owners are interested they can start a rockbox port |
| 21:13:21 | Amon-san | i own one |
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| 21:13:39 | Amon-san | but unfortunately i don't have any programming skill whatsoever |
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| 21:14:35 | markun | Amon-san: is there a forum for pontis users? |
| 21:14:45 | Amon-san | dunno |
| 21:14:57 | Amon-san | cause the manufacturer stopped supporting the device |
| 21:15:06 | Amon-san | cause thy were bought by another company |
| 21:15:08 | markun | That would be a good place to ask |
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| 21:41:05 | TBUHP666 | Hi will rockbox ever work on HFS ipodformat? |
| 21:42:28 | petur | what's 'ever'? Not in the near future... |
| 21:42:43 | linuxstb | No-one who wants HFS support has started to work on it yet. |
| 21:43:00 | petur | So untill somebody comes along and writes a driver... |
| 21:44:33 | TBUHP666 | oh so i guss it might never happen anytime this year |
| 21:46:18 | linuxstb | That would be my guess as well. But you never know - it just needs someone to come along with the skill and motivation to do it. |
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| 21:47:47 | juxtap | what's hfs |
| 21:48:12 | petur | mac file system |
| 21:49:05 | petur | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchical_File_System |
| 21:50:59 | juxtap | oh, k |
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| 22:04:53 | dionoea | hello |
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| 22:11:37 | bluey- | hfs is still not writeable on linux or? |
| 22:13:00 | Mikachu | i think it's writable, but you can't mkfs it |
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| 22:17:19 | dionoea | If you say Y here, you will be able to mount extended format Macintosh-formatted hard drive partitions with full read-write access. |
| 22:17:48 | scorche | N |
| 22:18:02 | dionoea | bluey-: ^ (so it has write support) |
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| 22:39:52 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is even more confused. |
| 22:40:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I read in several places that the e200 series record in "32kbps WAV" but I get a 16-bit Mono 48khz uncompressed (768kbps is uncompressed, right?) WAV. |
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| 22:47:03 | XavierGr | GOAL!! :P |
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| 22:50:21 | preglow | LOL!! :P |
| 22:50:21 | petur | Paul_The_Nerd: 48k * 2 bytes != 768kbps |
| 22:50:44 | markun | petur: kb not kB.. |
| 22:51:10 | XavierGr | congratulations on all swedees here! :) |
| 22:51:47 | Amon-san | indeed |
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| 22:52:12 | Amon-san | at last they shot the deciding goal. |
| 22:52:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | petur: 48k*2 B = 96 kilobytes = 768 kilobits. :) |
| 22:52:45 | * | petur slaps forehead |
| 22:53:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Another really strange thing I noticed. |
| 22:53:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | When the backlight goes off, they just stop updating the LCD. It stays on, but not updated. |
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| 23:06:54 | Bagder | Paul_The_Nerd: I think your mail sounds great |
| 23:08:06 | * | amiconn swears at the ISP1362 |
| 23:08:16 | * | amiconn knows it won't help |
| 23:08:31 | scorche | amiconn: did you try kicking it? |
| 23:08:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: Thanks. I'll fire it off tomorrow, and of course let you guys know as soon as I get a response. |
| 23:08:58 | XavierGr | ppor amiconn, it must be annoying... |
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| 23:11:02 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: i agree with bagder |
| 23:11:28 | amiconn | wth? |
| 23:11:29 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: who's the recipient anyway? |
| 23:11:39 | XavierGr | mail? what mail? is it public? |
| 23:11:44 | preglow | XavierGr: no |
| 23:11:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | http://www.portalplayer.com/company/ContactUs.htm |
| 23:11:53 | XavierGr | ah okay... |
| 23:11:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | "product information" |
| 23:12:23 | preglow | Paul_The_Nerd: rightie |
| 23:12:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | It was the best I could find, and at least it's an actual name to send the letter to. |
| 23:12:32 | preglow | yup |
| 23:12:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Having a human name rather than a department helps. |
| 23:13:42 | Bagder | the sansa's description of what happens over usb is... weird |
| 23:14:01 | Bagder | it displays on the LCD what it thinks is happening |
| 23:14:04 | Bagder | like "writing" |
| 23:14:32 | Bagder | but often it says "connection broken" |
| 23:14:41 | preglow | charming |
| 23:14:46 | Bagder | when my copy just complete a while ago and I didn't do anything more |
| 23:15:32 | Bagder | and you know what, it has swedish language! |
| 23:15:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: My sansa hasn't shown anything weird on it's display |
| 23:15:46 | preglow | even more charming! |
| 23:16:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though, I deleted a recorded voice file over UMS and had to spend 10 minutes waiting for it to rebuild the database. |
| 23:16:07 | preglow | i need a drink |
| 23:16:19 | Bagder | Paul_The_Nerd: I only see this "weird" when copying with Linux |
| 23:16:24 | Bagder | didn't see it using xp |
| 23:16:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 23:16:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gotcha |
| 23:16:50 | preglow | Bagder: might it be connected to windows xps usb unmount functionality? |
| 23:17:02 | preglow | Bagder: afaik, linux and windows doesn't terminate usb connections the same way at all |
| 23:17:14 | Bagder | yeah, perhaps |
| 23:17:23 | preglow | my nano gives me grief all the time in linux |
| 23:17:26 | preglow | never had it happen in windows |
| 23:17:33 | preglow | but in linux it also never says "ok to disconnect" |
| 23:18:27 | * | amiconn doesn't care about these ipod messages |
| 23:18:37 | preglow | i do care when it doesn't bloody reboot afterwards |
| 23:18:47 | preglow | my nano hangs up when disconnecting from usb a lot of times |
| 23:18:49 | preglow | and needs a manual reset |
| 23:18:51 | amiconn | I just pull usb, and it reboots |
| 23:19:02 | preglow | just pulling usb isn't very wise with caching |
| 23:19:11 | amiconn | Yeah, I don't use caching |
| 23:19:13 | preglow | and it STILL hangs some times |
| 23:19:36 | XavierGr | caching on USB devices is evil |
| 23:19:44 | dionoea | preglow: rmmod uhci_hcd |
| 23:19:50 | dionoea | and then it'll say "ok to disconnect" |
| 23:19:53 | amiconn | ..except for flash, but even then windows seems to cache way less than linux |
| 23:19:58 | dionoea | but i doubt that it's very usefull |
| 23:20:15 | Bagder | I just umount and smile |
| 23:20:24 | dionoea | same thing here :) |
| 23:20:35 | XavierGr | nah typing umount is very bothersome! |
| 23:20:42 | XavierGr | I just like to pull the cable. |
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| 23:21:54 | Bagder | mount /mnt/archos && make zip && unzip -od /mnt/archos rockbox.zip && umount /mnt/archos |
| 23:22:08 | XavierGr | ouch now you got me. |
| 23:22:27 | XavierGr | yes if you are developing the moment you use it it's nice |
| 23:22:34 | Bagder | and all that in the script called "install" ;-) |
| 23:22:59 | preglow | dionoea: rmodding sounds really overkillish |
| 23:23:27 | dionoea | preglow: well it works :) |
| 23:23:35 | preglow | true enough |
| 23:23:45 | preglow | as long as it inserts the module for me automatically |
| 23:23:49 | dionoea | i also have issues getting it to recognise the device if ehci_hcd is loaded |
| 23:24:05 | dionoea | which i don't really understant |
| 23:24:07 | amiconn | eh? |
| 23:24:09 | dionoea | *understand |
| 23:24:17 | amiconn | Afaik ehci is for usb2.0 |
| 23:24:22 | Bagder | yes |
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| 23:24:49 | amiconn | So with only uhci or ohci (depending on hardware) loaded, you'll only get usb1.1 performance & capabilities |
| 23:24:58 | dionoea | unfortunately yes :( |
| 23:25:10 | dionoea | but with ehci it loops on messages like: |
| 23:25:16 | * | dionoea gets his ipod |
| 23:26:04 | dionoea | or maybe i should remove uchi instead ... although i doubt that both would conflict |
| 23:26:30 | Bagder | they don't for me |
| 23:26:38 | dionoea | Jun 15 23:26:30 localhost kernel: usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 46 |
| 23:26:42 | Bagder | then I don't use ipod |
| 23:26:42 | * | amiconn notices that the sponsors box on the website started moving around, and ended up in a floating box |
| 23:26:45 | dionoea | i get this every 3 seconds in syslog |
| 23:26:52 | dionoea | only for ipod. Archos works fine |
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| 23:30:48 | * | amiconn wonders where the line with "this" dropped |
| 23:34:49 | amiconn | dionoea? |
| 23:35:18 | dionoea | 23:26:37 < dionoea> Jun 15 23:26:30 localhost kernel: usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 46 |
| 23:35:22 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:35:33 | dionoea | and it just loops for ever |
| 23:35:50 | amiconn | Ah, missed that somehow |
| 23:36:04 | dionoea | could be a bug in the kernel... but that would be weird since loads of people use USB2 hard drives |
| 23:36:05 | amiconn | It thinks the ipod is forever new ;) |
| 23:36:10 | MrStatic1oid | that happened to me when my usb 2.0 controller died |
| 23:36:14 | * | amiconn should try that |
| 23:36:15 | MrStatic1oid | it still worked in usb 1.1 |
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| 23:36:25 | MrStatic1oid | replaced the controller and it worked again |
| 23:36:32 | JackalSMP | whats new in 3.0/? |
| 23:36:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | JackalSMP: http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 23:37:03 | markun | JackalSMP: which player do you have? |
| 23:37:15 | dionoea | what 3.0 released ? |
| 23:37:20 | dionoea | -what +was |
| 23:37:22 | JackalSMP | ipodnano |
| 23:37:28 | markun | dionoea: no |
| 23:37:32 | dionoea | oh ok :) |
| 23:37:33 | JackalSMP | and video |
| 23:37:38 | markun | JackalSMP: 3.0 is not for ipods |
| 23:37:43 | JackalSMP | damn |
| 23:38:03 | dionoea | JackalSMP: you can still try the daily builds. They work fine here |
| 23:38:05 | markun | But you can still use rockbox if you want |
| 23:38:16 | dionoea | (on ipod video) |
| 23:38:18 | JackalSMP | i have it on both |
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| 23:38:27 | JackalSMP | i love it |
| 23:38:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | JackalSMP: Well, everything available is there in the daily builds. 3.0 is just bugfixes specific to the "release" targets, really. |
| 23:38:55 | JackalSMP | oh |
| 23:39:14 | JackalSMP | hey what about plugins are there new ones or things i can add |
| 23:39:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Everything official is included. |
| 23:39:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are patches that add other plugins, as well as custom themes that people have made. |
| 23:39:54 | JackalSMP | oh |
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| 23:40:58 | amiconn | dionoea: My mini g2 is working just fine with usb2.0 on my linux box |
| 23:41:02 | JackalSMP | anything i can do to help? |
| 23:41:31 | dionoea | amiconn: i'll try on an other computer ... maybe it's just an issue with my laptop's usb |
| 23:41:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | JackalSMP: If you're a programmer, tracking down and fixing bugs is the primary task around here. |
| 23:42:43 | JackalSMP | i do graphic design but i have friends who do programming and i think i can get him to help out |
| 23:44:17 | dionoea | hum, is booting with "hold" on supposed to clear the config ? (because it just did here when i unplugged the usb) |
| 23:44:25 | Mikachu | yes |
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| 23:44:55 | JackalSMP | how do i load a patch ? |
| 23:44:56 | dionoea | hum :( |
| 23:45:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | JackalSMP: You have to patch the source code, and then compile it. |
| 23:46:00 | JackalSMP | oh ok |
| 23:46:05 | JackalSMP | thnx you |
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