| 00:01:05 | freqmod | well the battery is replaceable (but you'll have to open your ipod and resolder the cables |
| 00:01:29 | juxtap | :/ |
| 00:01:52 | juxtap | i'd gladly carry a bigger/heavier device for longer battery life! |
| 00:01:58 | * | freqmod dissasembled his broken ipod nano, (it actually still works as a mass storage device) |
| 00:02:26 | preglow | how the hell did you manage to open it? :> |
| 00:02:42 | linuxstb_ | freqmod: Make some scans of the PCB... |
| 00:02:47 | preglow | yes please |
| 00:03:04 | freqmod | a knife beside the contact hole |
| 00:03:07 | linuxstb_ | And then remove all the chips and draw a schematic... |
| 00:03:42 | anathema | juxtap: sorry to but in, i have a battery pack made by berklin iirc,takes 4 AA batteries and with rockbox seems to charge it up as well when plugged in. very useful when travelling |
| 00:03:52 | preglow | i tried using a guiter pick around the whole bloody ipod |
| 00:04:07 | preglow | managed to budge it half open, but no further |
| 00:04:31 | freqmod | it is some glue inside too |
| 00:04:37 | preglow | hooray |
| 00:04:57 | * | freqmod installs xsane |
| 00:05:12 | juxtap | anathema, cool, for ipod? |
| 00:05:22 | juxtap | *googles berklin iirc* |
| 00:05:31 | anathema | yep |
| 00:05:47 | anathema | berklin battery pack i think its called |
| 00:06:14 | anathema | something like that, the idea is that you can run your ipod from AA batteries without touching the internal battery |
| 00:06:17 | juxtap | so it has a plug that fits in an ipod... that's neat :] |
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| 00:06:58 | anathema | however i dont think the ipod can run on a completly dead internal battery though, so it might not work as an alternlative if the ipod battery was completly depleated |
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| 00:09:00 | anathema | juxtap: its a bit clunky with fitting on the back of it, but for travelling about i dont really care about the size of it tbh as long as it keeps powered up |
| 00:09:10 | juxtap | there's gotta be something available that charges the internal battery |
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| 00:10:11 | juxtap | it fits on the back? weird :p |
| 00:10:22 | juxtap | man i can't find anything on it |
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| 00:11:09 | anathema | juxtap:humm...no luck from google? |
| 00:11:29 | juxtap | BELKIN |
| 00:12:06 | anathema | hah oops, yes thats it, my mistake. apoligies im rather tired tonight |
| 00:12:15 | juxtap | http://ipodbatteryfaq.com/ |
| 00:13:06 | anathema | yes that could well have been where i found out about it |
| 00:13:14 | anathema | cant recall tbh |
| 00:13:39 | juxtap | cool ta |
| 00:14:12 | anathema | np |
| 00:15:03 | Bagder | http://www.portalplayer.com/company/current_openings/Srfwengineer_new1004.htm |
| 00:15:10 | Bagder | apply? ;-) |
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| 00:16:53 | Bagder | I found out that PortalPlayer's CEO is only a 3rd degree away from me |
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| 00:17:22 | Bagder | ie, a friend's friend knows him |
| 00:18:03 | * | Bagder likes linkedin.com |
| 00:20:42 | PhR3aK | ok i have rockbox on my nano now... but h always |
| 00:20:45 | PhR3aK | sry |
| 00:20:46 | Genre9mp3 | Bagder: CEO = Chief executive officer? |
| 00:20:51 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:20:55 | PhR3aK | but it always boots the apple fw |
| 00:21:00 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
| 00:21:10 | Bagder | but now, sleep(3600*6); |
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| 00:21:32 | Genre9mp3 | Bagder: Hmmm...all seem to be a well organised conspiracy! :) |
| 00:21:58 | * | petur hopes the sleep() Bagder used takes seconds as argument |
| 00:22:25 | PhR3aK | how do i turn off my nano completely? long pressing play just seems to be a "sleep mode" |
| 00:22:38 | * | amiconn prefers ticks |
| 00:22:53 | * | petur ticks amiconn |
| 00:23:14 | * | Genre9mp3 seconds amiconn |
| 00:23:17 | Genre9mp3 | :P |
| 00:26:07 | linuxstb_ | PhR3aK: Are you talking about Rockbox or Apple's firmware? |
| 00:26:52 | PhR3aK | like... rockbox boots once after disconnecting, then i was copying the latest build and then it just starts the apple fw |
| 00:26:59 | PhR3aK | apples fw |
| 00:27:31 | linuxstb_ | Apple's fw doesn't have an off option. |
| 00:27:42 | PhR3aK | just sleep like? |
| 00:28:02 | PhR3aK | so... long pressing play |
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| 00:28:18 | PhR3aK | how can i boot rockbox then? |
| 00:28:28 | linuxstb_ | Hold MENU+SELECT to reset |
| 00:29:00 | PhR3aK | thank you very much :) |
| 00:29:10 | PhR3aK | works |
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| 00:32:14 | freqmod | Ipod nano scanfreqmod.dyndns.org/upload/albumO.php?path=ipdscan">http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/albumO.php?path=ipdscan |
| 00:32:17 | freqmod | Ipod nano scan: freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/albumO.php?path=ipdscan">http://freqmod.dyndns.org/upload/albumO.php?path=ipdscan |
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| 00:33:27 | freqmod | click on + when viewing one image for full size (but be kind to my dsl connection the full size jpg's are 6-18MB) |
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| 00:41:47 | PhR3aK | could it be that there are no other fonts in the newest ipod daily build |
| 00:42:15 | josh | Hey, is there any current work being done on the Ipod 3g build? |
| 00:42:52 | linuxstb_ | PhR3aK: The fonts are a separate download on the daily builds page. |
| 00:43:20 | linuxstb_ | josh: No - none of the devs own one. |
| 00:43:27 | josh | hmm |
| 00:43:57 | josh | I own one, and have programming experiance...nothing that low level though |
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| 00:44:08 | josh | how hard would it be to finish the port? |
| 00:44:12 | linuxstb_ | Sadly, it's the low-level stuff that's the issue. |
| 00:44:30 | PhR3aK | (linuxstb_): i dont see a seperated link for other fonts... |
| 00:44:32 | linuxstb_ | AFAIK, the audio driver is the main thing not working. |
| 00:44:35 | josh | I'm always willing to learn |
| 00:45:09 | PhR3aK | (linuxstb_): on the daily builds page |
| 00:45:30 | mantono | Do I need a computer with Windows to install Rockbox on my iPod? The installation guide is just talking about .exe-files. |
| 00:45:48 | linuxstb_ | PhR3aK: It's the last one in the list - it has a Rockbox logo (next to the source download) |
| 00:46:17 | linuxstb_ | mantono: Start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 00:46:53 | mantono | linuxstb_: oh, thanks! |
| 00:47:16 | linuxstb_ | josh: Well, the first thing to do would be to download the source and compile Rockbox. Then install and test it and see if you can fix any of the problems. |
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| 00:47:30 | josh | alright, well i just finished checking it out of CVS |
| 00:48:48 | linuxstb_ | Regarding the audio driver, you should get a copy of the ipodlinux kernel source, and try and compare the audio driver there with the version in Rockbox - and try and understand how it should be working. |
| 00:49:21 | PhR3aK | (linuxstb_): oh thx, didnt saw it... its late :P |
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| 00:49:22 | josh | grr...gotta fix my path |
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| 00:51:14 | josh | where can i grab the arm-elf crosscompiler |
| 00:53:12 | linuxstb_ | What OS are you using? |
| 00:53:28 | josh | Ubuntu |
| 00:53:33 | josh | its not showing up in Synaptic |
| 00:54:00 | linuxstb_ | No, you need to compile it yourself. But it's simple - see the CrossCompiler wiki page. |
| 00:54:11 | linuxstb_ | (it's basically just a configure; make ; make install) |
| 00:54:14 | josh | alright |
| 00:54:40 | linuxstb_ | Or you could try the tools/rockboxdev.sh script which will automate it. |
| 00:55:16 | josh | and off it goes |
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| 02:06:53 | ritalin | oi |
| 02:07:08 | ritalin | where can i find info on how to install my ipod back to factory defaults? |
| 02:07:14 | ritalin | i saved the firmware |
| 02:08:11 | josh | you on windows or linux? |
| 02:08:33 | ritalin | linux |
| 02:08:38 | ritalin | i found a guide though |
| 02:08:41 | ritalin | nevermind |
| 02:08:47 | ritalin | ill lurk incase i need help :D |
| 02:09:27 | josh | having trouble building the bootloader, anyone out there can help? |
| 02:11:44 | josh | no one? |
| 02:12:37 | ritalin | nah it doesnt tell ya |
| 02:12:45 | ritalin | im trying to remove the rockbox firmware |
| 02:12:55 | ritalin | this just tells you how to get the Apple UI back |
| 02:13:27 | josh | the only way i know of to get it back is on a windows box,im sure you can do it on linux, i just don't know how |
| 02:13:30 | liyang | ritalin: are you on Windows or OS X? |
| 02:13:37 | liyang | or Linux. |
| 02:13:42 | ritalin | linux sir |
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| 02:15:03 | liyang | Easiest way is to find a friend with one of the above proprietary OSes and run Apple's restore program. |
| 02:16:10 | ritalin | ok |
| 02:16:16 | ritalin | i have windows |
| 02:16:19 | ritalin | ill do that |
| 02:16:20 | liyang | Otherwise try dumping (with dd? I dunno) the firmware back to the first partition. |
| 02:16:20 | ritalin | ty |
| 02:17:04 | liyang | I had trouble changing back to an HFS+ iPod, so ended up running the restore program which Just Worked (TM). |
| 02:17:20 | ritalin | lol |
| 02:17:31 | josh | Anyone here have experiance building the bootloader? |
| 02:17:33 | ritalin | is it safe to reformat and ipod? |
| 02:17:38 | ritalin | an* |
| 02:17:42 | josh | yea, you can reformat them all you watn |
| 02:17:50 | josh | just need to use said tool to rebuild it |
| 02:19:47 | ritalin | lol i just fdisk'd it |
| 02:19:58 | ritalin | seems like im trying to break it |
| 02:19:59 | ritalin | :D |
| 02:20:55 | liyang | ritalin: I don't think you can break it permanently. You can always access it as a USB storage device from the firmware in ROM. |
| 02:21:35 | ritalin | yeah :D |
| 02:21:38 | ritalin | just fun to play with |
| 02:21:43 | liyang | I did some pretty weird things to mine, but as I mentioned, Apple's restore program got it back in working order. |
| 02:24:16 | ritalin | yeah dd if=backup_firmware of=/dev/sda1 works |
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| 02:35:59 | user01 | oh guess not... |
| 02:38:12 | ritalin | hmm |
| 02:38:20 | ritalin | sandman ipod # ls |
| 02:38:20 | ritalin | calend~1 contacts ipod_c~1 notes |
| 02:38:26 | ritalin | see how its all messed up? |
| 02:38:31 | ritalin | what could be causing that? |
| 02:38:33 | user01 | rockboy doesn't work for 4g? |
| 02:39:14 | user01 | i thought gameboy screen looked like the 4g screen :) |
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| 04:17:52 | yeft | alo |
| 04:18:17 | yeft | so just switched to linux.. think its time to throw the old rockbox on the ipod too? |
| 04:22:42 | yeft | midkay: kinda upset by no response |
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| 04:28:33 | yeft | shit, i remember when midkay was midknight2000 |
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| 05:00:42 | dj-fu | yeft: there's no reason not to run robkxo |
| 05:00:51 | dj-fu | I think it zwns all other players, but I'm probably biased |
| 05:00:59 | dj-fu | robkxo? I have finger lag |
| 05:01:10 | yeft | haha yeah. |
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| 05:01:20 | yeft | i remember it not playing files correctly not too long ago |
| 05:01:25 | yeft | or just from what i've heard |
| 05:01:30 | yeft | but you recommend it? |
| 05:01:53 | yeft | buggyness on a scale of 1-10? |
| 05:02:12 | dj-fu | I've only experienced a few |
| 05:02:19 | dj-fu | and if you report em they usuall get fixed pretty quickly |
| 05:02:27 | dj-fu | it plays all my mp3, ogg |
| 05:02:42 | dj-fu | crossfeed makes it worth that much more |
| 05:02:58 | yeft | flac? |
| 05:04:07 | dj-fu | haven't tested it |
| 05:05:28 | dj-fu | checked supportedformats on the wiki |
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| 05:09:40 | yeft | interface is better than ipod though? |
| 05:10:22 | dongs | thats debatable |
| 05:10:30 | dongs | i care about functionality though |
| 05:10:43 | dongs | such as playing mp3s without using jewish file upload programs. |
| 05:10:49 | scorche | yeft: yes on flac |
| 05:11:13 | yeft | jewish aye? |
| 05:11:20 | scorche | yes i am >_> |
| 05:11:24 | yeft | scrorche: thanks |
| 05:11:49 | yeft | scorche: how hard is the switch? |
| 05:11:59 | scorche | not too hard |
| 05:12:04 | dongs | it jsut works, usually. |
| 05:12:06 | scorche | just folowing directions =) |
| 05:13:17 | yeft | oh man |
| 05:13:23 | yeft | this is exciting/scary |
| 05:13:29 | yeft | kinda like the switch to linux |
| 05:13:43 | dongs | lol, linux. |
| 05:13:52 | yeft | ? |
| 05:13:58 | scorche | yeft: ignore him |
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| 05:14:45 | dongs | hm any interesteing ipod fixes lately? |
| 05:16:03 | dongs | hm doesnt look like it |
| 05:16:15 | dongs | saw a commit related to charging does that mean hte charging indicator now works properly? |
| 05:16:21 | dongs | or was jsut in preparation to getting it to work |
| 05:18:25 | yeft | just gotta wait 45 min or so to back up all my music |
| 05:18:28 | yeft | then i'll get on it |
| 05:18:30 | yeft | tell you what i think |
| 05:18:34 | yeft | possible to switch back? |
| 05:18:40 | dongs | of course |
| 05:18:42 | dongs | like |
| 05:18:46 | dongs | once oyu install the bootloader |
| 05:18:54 | scorche | yeft: and it is a dual boot as well |
| 05:18:55 | dongs | if you wanna go back temporarily you can hold menu during boot |
| 05:19:03 | dongs | to go back or you can delete rockbox.ipod |
| 05:19:04 | yeft | oh really? |
| 05:19:05 | yeft | wow |
| 05:19:08 | dongs | and it'll jump to apple firmare |
| 05:19:12 | yeft | wait |
| 05:19:28 | yeft | does rockbox pick up all the old mp3s chillin on there? |
| 05:19:32 | dongs | well |
| 05:19:35 | dongs | it will |
| 05:19:36 | dongs | but |
| 05:19:40 | dongs | they'll be in that lame apple dir |
| 05:19:45 | dongs | iTunes_Control or whatever |
| 05:19:47 | dongs | and with bad names |
| 05:19:48 | yeft | with funny names? |
| 05:19:49 | yeft | right |
| 05:19:50 | dongs | right |
| 05:19:59 | dongs | i think you can use id3cache |
| 05:20:04 | dongs | to make them into something readble |
| 05:20:07 | dongs | or you can jsut deltet that dir |
| 05:20:09 | scorche | tagcache |
| 05:20:11 | dongs | and copy new stuff over. |
| 05:20:22 | yeft | but then when i load ipod firmware? |
| 05:20:23 | dongs | ya tagcache. whatever it is. my shit isnt tagged because i'm not a pirate, so that feature is useless for me |
| 05:20:39 | scorche | yes, because you have to be a pirate to have tags |
| 05:20:40 | dongs | rockbox doesnt do anythign to the apple database |
| 05:20:43 | yeft | dongs: you can take things yourself you know.. dont have to be a pirate |
| 05:20:50 | dongs | so if you leave the files there |
| 05:20:54 | dongs | and tagcache them to listen |
| 05:21:04 | dongs | then nothing will be different when apple firmware loads. |
| 05:21:08 | yeft | wait |
| 05:21:11 | yeft | what is tagcache? |
| 05:21:21 | dongs | it scans all files and makes a DB of id3 tags. |
| 05:21:28 | dongs | so that you navigate by album/whatever/blah |
| 05:21:31 | scorche | like the apple browser |
| 05:21:32 | dongs | (i think) |
| 05:21:52 | dongs | i hate the apple browser |
| 05:21:55 | yeft | but what if i delete them all.. but them back on |
| 05:22:02 | yeft | and then load up apple firmware? |
| 05:22:03 | dongs | i never undertand the point of browsing by ARTIST or ALBUM (wtf is album??) tc. |
| 05:22:05 | dongs | tc=etc |
| 05:22:15 | dongs | yeft: 'delete them' from the apple dir? |
| 05:22:21 | yeft | right |
| 05:22:29 | dongs | then it'll be blank on the apple firmware. |
| 05:22:37 | dongs | with rockbox you can just put mp3s in the root dir |
| 05:22:39 | dongs | under folders/etc. |
| 05:22:46 | dongs | so obviously apple firmware wont pick that up. |
| 05:23:06 | yeft | i've gotten so used to the itunes/ipod way of doing things |
| 05:23:11 | dongs | huhuhu |
| 05:23:15 | scorche | yeft: sorry, but i am doing a couple things at once... |
| 05:23:19 | dongs | thats so terrible |
| 05:23:20 | yeft | i guess it makes more sense |
| 05:23:23 | yeft | this way |
| 05:23:38 | yeft | but that way is how i've been doin it since i junked my FM20 |
| 05:23:41 | scorche | dongs: he didnt ask for your opinion on every little thing |
| 05:23:46 | yeft | and my AJB6k |
| 05:24:00 | yeft | ha |
| 05:24:16 | dongs | scorche: yea itunes way makes SO much sense. i mean lets see, i want to copy a couple songs to listen to while i drive to work today |
| 05:24:20 | scorche | yeft: dongs has a history in here if you cant tell ;) |
| 05:24:38 | dongs | i can either a) start itunes wait 5 minutes for it ot load, do some clicking on a ugly interface and wait while it takes its time to "sync" or wahtever |
| 05:24:42 | scorche | dongs: i have heard your opinions way too many times...i know |
| 05:24:47 | dongs | or I can b) copy some mp3s in to \ on rockbox and go |
| 05:25:05 | yeft | dongs |
| 05:25:12 | yeft | what i meant wasss |
| 05:25:33 | yeft | dongs: plus i can use it with multiple computers.. not just my one home base man.. and my mp3's are intact and backed up... |
| 05:25:58 | dongs | yeft: you can use same ipod with different isntalls of itunes? |
| 05:26:01 | yeft | it really makes more sense rockbox's way.. but apple tricked me |
| 05:26:04 | dongs | i thought it didnt let oyu do that |
| 05:26:08 | yeft | dongs: i'm sayin i cant .. |
| 05:26:10 | dongs | ah |
| 05:26:32 | yeft | dongs: i was listing benefits of rockbox ; ) |
| 05:26:41 | dongs | right |
| 05:26:42 | dongs | huhu |
| 05:27:09 | yeft | it just might be sloppier |
| 05:27:47 | yeft | ipod linux worth mentioning? |
| 05:28:00 | dongs | no. waste of time. |
| 05:28:13 | dongs | btw there IS one feature im really missing from rockbox |
| 05:28:18 | dongs | or maybe dont know how to use it. |
| 05:28:25 | dongs | i need 'delete file currently playing' feature. |
| 05:28:37 | dongs | i found teh best way to make playlists of shit is just dleete shit i dont want ot listen to |
| 05:28:43 | dongs | and i know i can delete from file browser |
| 05:28:45 | yeft | are the screenshots at rockbox.org accurate? |
| 05:28:52 | dongs | more or less. |
| 05:28:53 | dongs | what are you lookign at? |
| 05:28:58 | yeft | the color guys |
| 05:29:04 | dongs | the UI largely depends on the wps screen used |
| 05:29:11 | scorche | yeft: search in the wiki for the ipod5gwps page |
| 05:29:20 | scorche | something liek that |
| 05:29:34 | scorche | i would link you, but i am doing too many things at once >_< |
| 05:29:41 | yeft | thanks |
| 05:30:15 | yeft | scorche: exactly what i was lookin for |
| 05:30:17 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
| 05:30:32 | yeft | man that is so much sexier than ipod |
| 05:30:39 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/Night.png |
| 05:30:40 | dongs | best one ever |
| 05:31:59 | yeft | looks like a black screen to me |
| 05:32:20 | yeft | i think the guy from t-mobile support lied to me |
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| 05:33:07 | yeft | said they'd send me an email to unlock my phone |
| 05:33:10 | yeft | aint happened yet |
| 05:34:46 | dongs | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/kelp.png |
| 05:34:49 | dongs | thats awesome. |
| 05:35:23 | yeft | i think turntables looks good |
| 05:36:03 | yeft | and the one i'm gonna use is ipodgreen5g |
| 05:36:17 | yeft | http://solutions-i.org/julius/images/g5gaab.jpg |
| 05:37:13 | yeft | how about album art with rockbox? |
| 05:37:17 | yeft | thats a big thing with em |
| 05:37:19 | yeft | me* |
| 05:37:27 | scorche | yeft: there is a patch for it |
| 05:37:36 | yeft | scorche: goorrrgeeouuss |
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| 05:42:15 | dongs | lol ambum art |
| 05:45:25 | yeft | ? |
| 05:45:29 | yeft | whats so funny |
| 05:45:44 | scorche | yeft: like i said..ignore him =P |
| 05:45:59 | yeft | ah, i'll have to learn that one |
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| 05:53:47 | yeft | well here goes nothing |
| 05:55:31 | dongs | heh heh |
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| 06:09:25 | yeft | rockbox error -1 |
| 06:09:27 | yeft | sweet |
| 06:10:04 | yeft | oh |
| 06:10:08 | yeft | haha i didnt put rockbox on yet |
| 06:10:25 | yeft | common mistake |
| 06:14:43 | yeft | where do i getmyself a .rockbox folder |
| 06:16:24 | scorche | from the site |
| 06:16:35 | scorche | go to cvs builds tab |
| 06:17:22 | yeft | haha nevermind |
| 06:17:29 | yeft | starts with a . so linux hid it |
| 06:17:31 | yeft | or ubuntu |
| 06:17:39 | scorche | lol |
| 06:17:43 | yeft | or whichever has the vendetta against .'s |
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| 06:23:40 | yeft | scorche: is it safe to just delete Ipod_Control? |
| 06:24:31 | yeft | scorche: or any of those folders for that matter (calander .. photos etc.. _ |
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| 07:08:04 | yeft | and why dont i have fonts :( |
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| 07:09:39 | yeft | nevermind.. |
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| 07:50:21 | B4gder | bloody spammers |
| 07:50:59 | yeft | tell me about it |
| 07:52:05 | yeft | can give a good laugh every now and then |
| 07:52:08 | yeft | though |
| 07:52:31 | B4gder | not the wiki spammers we have, they never make me laugh... |
| 07:53:17 | yeft | ah |
| 07:53:44 | yeft | i got this in a spam mail once: http://www.gravitizer.com |
| 07:53:52 | yeft | man did i laugh |
| 07:54:38 | scorche | lol..wtf? |
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| 07:55:48 | yeft | haha yep |
| 07:56:00 | yeft | thats what i said |
| 07:56:26 | B4gder | deny from, deny from, ... |
| 07:56:30 | midkay | yeft, haha. |
| 07:56:38 | yeft | look who decided to show up |
| 07:56:53 | midkay | yeft, when did you ask a question? |
| 07:57:06 | yeft | i days ago |
| 07:57:10 | midkay | what was it?! |
| 07:57:17 | yeft | haha just kidding |
| 07:57:20 | yeft | not in a while really |
| 07:57:25 | scorche | "do you like men?" |
| 07:57:26 | yeft | i'm movin back to the light side |
| 07:58:21 | yeft | is that cache thinger good? |
| 07:58:27 | yeft | i'm reloadin all my files |
| 07:58:44 | midkay | yeft, you said 'upset by no response'.. you mean a response to your entering the room? 'hi'. :) |
| 07:59:06 | midkay | scorche, well, you thought of that pretty quick.. do *you*? |
| 07:59:06 | midkay | :) |
| 07:59:17 | * | scorche slyly winks at midkay |
| 07:59:21 | yeft | oh my gay |
| 07:59:42 | midkay | scorche, ooh, hoo.. *winks back* |
| 07:59:49 | midkay | i'll see *you* after class, mister. |
| 07:59:55 | midkay | for some... extra credit. |
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| 08:00:06 | scorche | =O |
| 08:00:11 | yeft | yeft changes topic to : Rockgay |
| 08:00:48 | midkay | those slang words for homosexuality offend me, yeft. there's nothing wrong with it. |
| 08:01:09 | yeft | not sayin there is.. i didnt know gay was offensive |
| 08:01:39 | midkay | well, uh, check your, uh, offensive, uh, dictionary, because, uh, it's, uh.. you know.. pretty, uh.. well, you know where i'm going with this. |
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| 08:05:49 | yeft | midkay: MSU? or is that not you |
| 08:07:29 | midkay | msu? |
| 08:07:41 | yeft | nevermind then |
| 08:07:44 | scorche | midkay state university |
| 08:07:53 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:07:57 | midkay | yeft, no.. what?! |
| 08:08:06 | yeft | what |
| 08:08:11 | midkay | 'msu'? |
| 08:08:36 | yeft | Michigan State University |
| 08:08:50 | yeft | nevermind |
| 08:08:51 | yeft | really |
| 08:08:54 | yeft | foolishness |
| 08:09:12 | midkay | what the hell does that have anything to do with anything? |
| 08:09:23 | midkay | how can that 'not be me', or for that matter, 'be me'?! |
| 08:09:39 | yeft | if you went to msu |
| 08:09:42 | yeft | that would be you |
| 08:10:12 | midkay | .. how/why would that make any difference to anything at all? |
| 08:10:20 | yeft | i was just curious |
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| 08:11:01 | midkay | erm. well. no... i haven't even reached the point where i have a choice to go to a university yet... :) |
| 08:11:11 | yeft | oh |
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| 08:11:40 | yeft | ok |
| 08:11:42 | yeft | well anyway |
| 08:12:00 | yeft | what does rockbox do when its doin that file cache thing? just lock up? |
| 08:12:14 | midkay | tagcache? |
| 08:12:21 | midkay | no.. not at all.. just accesses the disk. |
| 08:12:26 | yeft | yeah |
| 08:12:35 | yeft | well last time i tried it just locked up |
| 08:12:48 | yeft | tagcache work with nested folders? |
| 08:13:19 | midkay | yes, your entire rockbox partition.. |
| 08:13:21 | scorche | scans the whole drive |
| 08:13:22 | midkay | and it shouldn't.. |
| 08:13:27 | midkay | or maybe the whole drive. |
| 08:13:27 | midkay | :) |
| 08:13:33 | scorche | =) |
| 08:13:38 | yeft | sweeeet |
| 08:13:40 | midkay | +at least.. as in "at least your entire rockbox partition". |
| 08:13:42 | midkay | :) |
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| 08:15:32 | yeft | cant wait til i know how to code shit.. |
| 08:15:36 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:15:56 | yeft | maybe work on that album art thing to use jpgs too |
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| 08:18:35 | midkay | well, jpg decoding isn't in the rockbox core, and so you'd have to add it (quite unlikely to be accepted, i think) or load it via the plugin (unlikely also).. |
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| 08:19:46 | yeft | midkay: you use rockbox on your 5g right? |
| 08:20:07 | midkay | yeah. |
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| 08:20:39 | daurn|afk | libjpeg |
| 08:20:41 | daurn|afk | just port it |
| 08:20:41 | daurn|afk | :S |
| 08:20:43 | | Nick daurn|afk is now known as daurnimator (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurn) |
| 08:20:55 | B4gder | we already have jpeg code |
| 08:21:02 | yeft | midkay: what theme you use? |
| 08:21:28 | BHSPitLappy | daurnimator: port TerminatorX! :D |
| 08:21:29 | midkay | yeft, a modified version of my posted brushed metal theme.. i still need to get around to posting it. :) |
| 08:21:33 | midkay | maybe tonight. |
| 08:21:36 | BHSPitLappy | that would pretty much be awesome on an iPod |
| 08:22:01 | BHSPitLappy | but impossible due to damn technical limitations |
| 08:22:27 | midkay | okay.... |
| 08:22:27 | yeft | midkay: its a nice one |
| 08:22:35 | yeft | i'm in love with the green5g though |
| 08:22:36 | midkay | yeft, thx, rather simple.. |
| 08:22:40 | yeft | i think its unreal |
| 08:22:49 | midkay | as in veryvery cool? |
| 08:23:01 | yeft | yes |
| 08:23:40 | midkay | ah.. |
| 08:29:48 | shadou | if ya girl steps up, i'm smackin the hoe |
| 08:30:02 | yeft | good philosophy to live by |
| 08:30:10 | shadou | aye |
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| 08:37:43 | sharpe | i'm back... |
| 08:38:04 | BHSPitLappy | I'm front! |
| 08:38:41 | sharpe | such great fun. two shows, one car breakdown... |
| 08:39:03 | sharpe | half an hour of a failed attempt to get the vehicle running... |
| 08:39:48 | yeft | sharpe: in some sort of band? |
| 08:40:32 | sharpe | yeft: nope, just went to see different ones. the breakdown was going home earlier this day/afternoon/evening/night/morning. |
| 08:41:25 | yeft | ah nice |
| 08:41:31 | yeft | seeing any good bands? |
| 08:41:57 | sharpe | ah, went to see some local bands really... |
| 08:42:13 | yeft | oh ok |
| 08:42:34 | sharpe | mercy mercedes, he is legend, youth electronics, fall of troy, and some other i can't remember... |
| 08:43:19 | yeft | never heard of em.. |
| 08:43:21 | sharpe | but they're all local. |
| 08:43:25 | sharpe | tis probably why... |
| 08:43:26 | yeft | probably why |
| 08:44:27 | yeft | i love linux |
| 08:44:38 | yeft | linux has trouble copying a file,, it can tell you and you skip it |
| 08:44:43 | sharpe | didn't plan on being away from home for three days until a little bit before we left for the first show on friday... |
| 08:44:54 | yeft | windows has trouble copying a file it goes down a pile of shit leaving you guessing where it left off |
| 08:45:16 | sharpe | yeft: that's why we use the msdos. :D |
| 08:45:30 | sharpe | not just dos, but msdos. |
| 08:45:46 | yeft | ill take your word for it |
| 08:45:50 | sharpe | hah |
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| 08:47:48 | BHSPitLappy | XP got broken on my mom's (/brother's/family's) computer |
| 08:47:52 | BHSPitLappy | so I installed ubuntu |
| 08:47:57 | BHSPitLappy | refused to fix XP |
| 08:48:02 | sharpe | i never have any problems with windows... :\ |
| 08:48:05 | BHSPitLappy | they've been getting used to it ever since |
| 08:48:06 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 08:48:33 | BHSPitLappy | sharpe: then you haven't lived! |
| 08:48:34 | sharpe | argh. damn childproof caps. |
| 08:48:39 | B4gder | sharpe: then you're either not using it or you should buy a few lottery tickets as well |
| 08:48:50 | midkay | B4gder, haha. |
| 08:48:54 | BHSPitLappy | hahaha |
| 08:49:05 | sharpe | finally. |
| 08:49:08 | BHSPitLappy | night all |
| 08:49:10 | * | midkay uses it and doesn't... usually.. have any.. major.. problems... |
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| 08:49:39 | sharpe | har... har...? |
| 08:49:59 | sharpe | yay |
| 08:50:01 | sharpe | cotton! |
| 08:50:16 | midkay | any small things i ever have a problem with once in a while certainly outweigh the countless hours i'd have to spend setting up libraries/dependencies/compiling only to not have access to the programs i need. |
| 08:50:19 | yeft | if your just gonna be a normal user (internet/word processing) that kind of stuf.f. ubuntu is perfect |
| 08:50:54 | sharpe | ooh. multi-colored tylenol... |
| 08:51:11 | midkay | ... |
| 08:51:13 | yeft | midkay: its more fun to compile set up libraries than restart every 5 minutes |
| 08:51:27 | yeft | at least your doing something |
| 08:51:31 | midkay | yeft, i never have to restart against my wille except when updating windows once a month.. |
| 08:51:35 | midkay | will* |
| 08:51:45 | sharpe | i suppose B4gder is right... i must not be using windows right... :) |
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| 08:52:04 | yeft | plus i boot up in 20 seconds flat |
| 08:52:05 | midkay | and restarting only takes <1 minute, versus potential hours of compiling/configuring.. then incompatibilities.. |
| 08:52:27 | midkay | getting libraries that depend on libraries that depend on libraries.. you know the drill (i hope). |
| 08:52:41 | sharpe | heheh, i can make my boot time extremely long if i leave my usb stick plugged in. |
| 08:52:54 | midkay | ha... ha? |
| 08:52:57 | yeft | ubuntu's package manager loves gettin dependencies and the such |
| 08:52:59 | B4gder | sharpe: you did say "never" not just "rarely" and that just doesn't exist in software |
| 08:53:00 | sharpe | i just remembered... |
| 08:53:22 | midkay | if only those dependencies added up to run apps i need.. |
| 08:53:31 | midkay | not to mention games. |
| 08:53:33 | sharpe | eh, i meant major problems... :) |
| 08:53:38 | yeft | sharpe: if i have my ubuntu hard drive powered on my windows boot time goes up 5x and windows is slow as all hell.. i'm still tryin to figure that out |
| 08:53:48 | yeft | i'm in love with linux |
| 08:53:52 | yeft | you'll never change me |
| 08:54:05 | midkay | and you won't me... :) |
| 08:54:07 | yeft | unless vista is knock your socks of perfect (doubting it..) |
| 08:54:07 | sharpe | i hate sunburns. especially the after-effects... |
| 08:54:27 | yeft | yeah that whole tanning thing sucks ass |
| 08:54:50 | sharpe | hah. reminds me of a tanless product, commercial i had seen once... |
| 08:54:52 | sharpe | er |
| 08:54:57 | sharpe | sunless tanning product |
| 08:55:11 | yeft | you mean orange paint |
| 08:55:15 | sharpe | one of the hosts was like, orange... |
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| 08:57:49 | sharpe | i'm going to try to get some sleep... |
| 08:57:59 | dj-fu | ubuntu is gay |
| 08:58:03 | dj-fu | just thought I'd mention that |
| 08:58:06 | sharpe | perfect timing too. |
| 08:58:15 | B4gder | yeah, and gay means happy, right? |
| 08:58:19 | dj-fu | no |
| 08:58:21 | dj-fu | gay means homosexual |
| 08:58:23 | dj-fu | i.e; horribly bad |
| 08:58:28 | B4gder | now now |
| 08:58:32 | B4gder | take that somewhere else |
| 08:58:36 | sharpe | depends on your stance of homosexuality. |
| 08:58:41 | dj-fu | correct |
| 08:58:58 | dj-fu | in my stance, my previous statement boils down to ubuntu is horribly bad |
| 08:59:19 | yeft | dj-fu why is that |
| 08:59:20 | sharpe | apathetically, it would mean something along the lines of "alright; whatever; cool...; etc." |
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| 08:59:35 | dj-fu | yeft: it's just like any binary based distro |
| 08:59:39 | dj-fu | might aswell run doze |
| 08:59:41 | B4gder | hahaha |
| 08:59:56 | yeft | dj-fu: what cant i do on ubuntu that i can do on something eslse |
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| 09:00:10 | dj-fu | experience the true power? |
| 09:00:21 | dj-fu | not be gay? ;x |
| 09:00:22 | yeft | anything specific.. or just experience the power |
| 09:00:24 | sharpe | so you compile your own operating system without using another if they're sucky because their binaries are distributed? wouldn't that be hard? |
| 09:00:44 | dj-fu | no that wouldn't be hard |
| 09:00:49 | dj-fu | that was confusing |
| 09:00:51 | dj-fu | please rewords |
| 09:00:53 | B4gder | if you compile it yourself, it somehow magically becomes much better |
| 09:01:03 | yeft | i think b4dger got it right |
| 09:01:03 | B4gder | and you get to wait a lot more |
| 09:01:20 | dj-fu | and you can compile debug symbols, and you can optimize for your processor |
| 09:01:27 | dj-fu | (need I say more in a channel full of developers?) |
| 09:01:35 | yeft | my ubuntu is optimized for my processor |
| 09:01:37 | sharpe | processor? what's that? |
| 09:01:38 | * | B4gder picks debian any day |
| 09:01:41 | yeft | i think |
| 09:01:50 | dj-fu | yeft: oh? lol |
| 09:01:51 | yeft | isnt ubuntu technically debian? |
| 09:01:59 | yeft | amd64 |
| 09:01:59 | dj-fu | no, it's southafrican debian. |
| 09:02:03 | B4gder | debian based at least |
| 09:02:07 | sharpe | a rare breed. |
| 09:02:29 | B4gder | and Mark (ubuntu founder) clearly knows about us btw |
| 09:02:43 | B4gder | "Rockbox rocks" as he said |
| 09:02:44 | sharpe | what about sharpe? |
| 09:02:49 | sharpe | does he know sharpe? |
| 09:02:49 | yeft | well it does |
| 09:02:51 | dj-fu | who's sharpe? |
| 09:03:07 | sharpe | eh. dude i know. |
| 09:03:16 | dj-fu | ah, callackalackin. |
| 09:03:18 | yeft | my favorite thing about rockbox of all time was video on my monochrome FM20 |
| 09:03:27 | yeft | that still amazes me |
| 09:03:56 | dj-fu | you killed it |
| 09:04:01 | dj-fu | I was trying to bash ubuntu |
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| 09:04:07 | dj-fu | and you made me loose my train of bashing |
| 09:04:15 | yeft | dj-fu i'm sorry |
| 09:04:23 | yeft | we can start back up if you'd like |
| 09:04:30 | dj-fu | no that's alright |
| 09:04:41 | yeft | lets see.. today i barely had to type any bash commands |
| 09:04:42 | yeft | go |
| 09:04:54 | dj-fu | why would you not want to type bash commands |
| 09:04:57 | dj-fu | that's like, the coolest thing |
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| 09:05:23 | dj-fu | blah! |
| 09:05:26 | sharpe | alright, it's time for that much needed sleep. goodnight everybody. |
| 09:05:27 | yeft | well its just nicer if you dont have to |
| 09:05:30 | dj-fu | I'm going to play guildwars. toodles. |
| 09:05:35 | yeft | later |
| 09:07:11 | markun | B4gder: why would anyone create multiple wiki accounts.. (DeFt and OheRi) |
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| 09:07:47 | B4gder | spammers |
| 09:08:11 | B4gder | they like to make "Ohe*" names for some reason |
| 09:08:16 | B4gder | I bet the script they use do it |
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| 09:08:30 | yeft | cant you block Ohe* |
| 09:09:05 | sharpe | but what if there is a legitimate Ohe*? |
| 09:09:09 | B4gder | deny from 82.209.208.95 |
| 09:09:15 | B4gder | block block block |
| 09:09:20 | B4gder | if there's a legit one, then too bad |
| 09:09:20 | sharpe | pacman! |
| 09:10:11 | markun | a girl wanted to create nancy.callahan@yahoo but it was refused because it contains the word 'allah' |
| 09:10:20 | yeft | hahah |
| 09:10:22 | yeft | good stuff |
| 09:10:22 | sharpe | heheh |
| 09:10:48 | yeft | wonder how often she gets that |
| 09:10:50 | B4gder | she must be a terrorist |
| 09:11:01 | markun | yes, very likely :) |
| 09:11:29 | scorche | B4gder: ubuntu guy also said "rockbox is linux for your ipod" =P |
| 09:11:43 | B4gder | yeah, well... :-) |
| 09:11:56 | sharpe | heh.... |
| 09:12:14 | sharpe | it's the non-linux linux equivalent for your ipod... |
| 09:13:01 | scorche | not really |
| 09:13:06 | scorche | but i know what you meant =) |
| 09:13:11 | sharpe | compared to windows. |
| 09:13:16 | sharpe | ah |
| 09:13:27 | sharpe | i haven't told you i hate you today, haven't i? |
| 09:13:30 | yeft | linux : windows :: rockbox : apple firmware |
| 09:13:38 | scorche | there ya go |
| 09:13:46 | scorche | sharpe: <3 |
| 09:13:50 | sharpe | hah. |
| 09:14:35 | sharpe | psch. flash flood warning? who cares... |
| 09:15:29 | sharpe | it's a watch, but still, same attitude... |
| 09:15:53 | sharpe | alright, finally, third or fourth time, g'night everyone. |
| 09:17:21 | B4gder | seems a fair amount of our wikispammers come from belarus |
| 09:17:43 | B4gder | "Republican Unitary Enterprise BELTELECOM" |
| 09:18:40 | * | B4gder blocks out that whole operator |
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| 09:19:30 | B4gder | a few more recent users look suspicious |
| 09:19:52 | B4gder | but I'll let them remain until they make a move and whipe them out then |
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| 09:34:51 | XavierGr | there is a lot of spam activity lately |
| 09:34:55 | B4gder | yeah |
| 09:34:57 | XavierGr | I wonder why |
| 09:35:06 | B4gder | and now again... |
| 09:35:54 | B4gder | from korea now |
| 09:36:00 | B4gder | Ohe* again |
| 09:36:57 | B4gder | XavierGr: I would guess they use the same script/app |
| 09:37:07 | XavierGr | more probably |
| 09:37:10 | B4gder | that somehow brings them either money or cred somewhere |
| 09:37:30 | B4gder | the recent ones have all submitted similar attachments |
| 09:39:41 | B4gder | in fact |
| 09:39:45 | B4gder | google for "ohere" |
| 09:40:00 | B4gder | and you find "Polyphonic ringtones. Nokia ringtones." in our wiki... :-( |
| 09:40:35 | Zagor | crap |
| 09:40:44 | B4gder | and posted URLs all over pointing out that URL in our wiki |
| 09:40:55 | Zagor | we need to add the "nofollow" stuff again |
| 09:41:10 | XavierGr | genre9mp3 also reported many attachments in the wiki which are not deleted yet |
| 09:41:14 | B4gder | but in this case they feed the engines by posting links to our site all over |
| 09:41:16 | Zagor | yes, our site has a high pagerank. that makes it attractive for spammers. |
| 09:41:28 | Zagor | hmm, right |
| 09:41:29 | B4gder | XavierGr: not to me |
| 09:42:30 | XavierGr | hmm I remember he googled whole rockbox.org with "index of:" and found many attachments which are not viewable in the wiki itself |
| 09:42:51 | B4gder | well, google remember lots of that stuff that we have deleted |
| 09:43:12 | B4gder | I did a lot of cleaning yday and today |
| 09:43:35 | XavierGr | ah okay then |
| 09:45:06 | B4gder | check the wiki stats for a sad look |
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| 09:47:15 | XavierGr | hmm where was the link for wiki stats... |
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| 09:51:55 | Zagor | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebStatistics |
| 09:56:59 | XavierGr | 10q |
| 09:57:36 | yeft | how many directories can rockbox handle |
| 09:57:46 | yeft | i've got about 800 and i'm gettin Dir buffer is full |
| 09:58:06 | scorche | yeft: youcan increase the number in an option |
| 09:58:46 | yeft | scorche: got it thanks |
| 10:00 |
| 10:02:13 | yeft | and whats the nature of the tag cache? |
| 10:02:19 | yeft | do i have to do it everytime i add a file? |
| 10:03:33 | markun | yeft: if you have dircache and tag cache in ram enable it should auto update |
| 10:04:11 | yeft | what if tagcache isnt in ram? |
| 10:04:29 | yeft | i feel like if the tag cache were in the ram it would take up a lot of space |
| 10:04:30 | scorche | then set it to be |
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| 10:04:46 | markun | then it's on your hd and will not be updated |
| 10:04:55 | yeft | ive got about 6k of files |
| 10:04:56 | markun | At least I think |
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| 10:05:09 | markun | I have about 5k |
| 10:05:15 | yeft | and you load it to ram? |
| 10:05:43 | markun | I don't use tagcache. But right now I have it in ram to try it out. |
| 10:05:52 | markun | Don't know how big it is |
| 10:07:35 | * | scorche searches in vain for a snack of the dessert variety |
| 10:08:28 | yeft | hopefully that works |
| 10:08:31 | yeft | thanks guys |
| 10:08:31 | yeft | night |
| 10:08:39 | scorche | night\ |
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| 10:42:26 | amiconn | The wiki stats look really odd now. |
| 10:42:40 | amiconn | Is there no way to remove spammers completely? |
| 10:42:49 | B4gder | the spammers are removed completely |
| 10:42:56 | B4gder | but the stats are made from some kind of logs |
| 10:43:21 | amiconn | Hmm. |
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| 10:48:17 | amiconn | Still looking rather ugly. The real contributors are hidden by the (removed) spammers... |
| 10:48:26 | B4gder | yeah |
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| 10:58:15 | Lynx_ | is the cvs log working normally? |
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| 11:00:18 | B4gder | "the cvs log" ? |
| 11:02:57 | Lynx_ | the log of recent cvs activity as seen on the homepage |
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| 11:03:43 | B4gder | looks ok to me |
| 11:04:13 | Lynx_ | ok, i just wondered because i remember ist was completely gone a day or so ago, an now it does not show commits for the last 3 days which is unusual i guess. |
| 11:04:45 | B4gder | there hasn't been any commits since june 23 |
| 11:05:05 | Lynx_ | ok. a sunny weekend effect maybe ;) |
| 11:05:33 | B4gder | vacation times coming up and feature freeze starting to really hurt us |
| 11:06:00 | Paprica | you right.. |
| 11:06:01 | B4gder | or rather almost nobody actually tries to fix the outstanding problems |
| 11:06:12 | Paprica | it's the feature freeze |
| 11:06:25 | Lynx_ | i hope there are not too many devs who get bored with rockbox over the freeze and turn to other things |
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| 11:07:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, it's not like they can't keep working on their own stuff. Plenty of them do instead of fixing bugs. |
| 11:07:37 | amiconn | B4gder: The cvs time display on the webpages is still wrong |
| 11:08:14 | B4gder | yeah |
| 11:08:16 | amiconn | It's supposed to show UTC, but still shows local time (CEST) |
| 11:08:39 | amiconn | ...and the time in viewcvs is further off (by another hour) |
| 11:08:48 | B4gder | haha |
| 11:10:07 | B4gder | it seems cvs has started to show the times in the local time zone |
| 11:10:31 | B4gder | and my script just displays what CVS gives |
| 11:11:39 | B4gder | and I believe CVS fails to do so correctly |
| 11:11:49 | B4gder | date: 2006-03-27 23:20:35 +0200; author: dan |
| 11:11:55 | B4gder | date: 2006-02-21 11:21:48 +0100; author: dan |
| 11:12:13 | B4gder | I doubt he moved or changed DST in that time |
| 11:12:14 | amiconn | Afaik you can tell cvs what time to display |
| 11:12:43 | scorche | my cat is acting like she caught something >_> |
| 11:12:46 | * | scorche goes to check |
| 11:12:49 | B4gder | "-z Show times in the selected records using the specified time zone instead of UTC." |
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| 11:13:13 | amiconn | DST started 2006-03-25 ... |
| 11:13:19 | B4gder | oh |
| 11:13:23 | B4gder | then it was right |
| 11:13:24 | scorche | ooo...it is a tiny mouse |
| 11:13:26 | tucoz | B4gder: have you installed this plugin? http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/WikiSpam |
| 11:13:31 | B4gder | no |
| 11:13:36 | scorche | gratefully, she hasnt disemboweled it yet |
| 11:13:48 | tucoz | ok |
| 11:17:43 | preglow | scorche: put her on your finest carpet, then let her go at it |
| 11:17:49 | scorche | crap...i borrowed it from her to play with....and i lost it >_< |
| 11:18:53 | B4gder | "TZ=UTC cvs log blablabla" works fine |
| 11:20:42 | B4gder | there, front page times fixed |
| 11:21:35 | Zagor | amiconn: i'm looking at installing the BlackListPlugin |
| 11:21:39 | tucoz | B4gder: do you allow the search robots to index the history/revision pages in the wiki? |
| 11:22:03 | tucoz | http://chongqed.org/prevent_spam.html |
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| 11:22:15 | tucoz | there are some nice tips there |
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| 11:23:15 | tucoz | but the twiki site in general seem to have taken the wikispam issue seriously |
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| 12:57:01 | preglow | i love it when people suggest features we already have |
| 12:59:55 | Nibbler | you pretend to code it especially for them within 2 minutes? |
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| 13:03:46 | preglow | no, i'm just left with the choice of whether to rudely ask people to please find out what features we already have before posting, or just closing it |
| 13:04:57 | Nibbler | :] |
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| 13:12:13 | B4gder | it also makes you wonder why the ask for it |
| 13:12:26 | B4gder | since they clearly didn't try rockbox to see if it has it |
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| 13:13:12 | B4gder | "oh here's a nice feature I read about on [url] let's ask if rockbox can add it" |
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| 13:30:15 | markun | preglow: which feature was it? |
| 13:30:31 | PaulJam | crossfeed |
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| 13:40:17 | Genre9mp3 | Damn this OheRe is back! |
| 13:41:07 | Genre9mp3 | And who's this KillerWolfe? |
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| 13:58:21 | ]RowaN[ | guys what is the ipodnano port of rockbox like? my n00b friend is lending me his to fill up with songs, and i was considering installing rockbox for him too |
| 13:58:48 | ]RowaN[ | i mean i know rockbox is nice but whats the state of that port like |
| 13:59:22 | preglow | it works |
| 13:59:27 | preglow | but with some quirks here and there |
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| 14:01:10 | ]RowaN[ | sounds about the same as the h120 port then? =p |
| 14:01:54 | preglow | haha |
| 14:01:55 | preglow | no |
| 14:02:00 | preglow | h120 port is more polished |
| 14:02:04 | preglow | less glitches |
| 14:02:27 | XavierGr | h10 port is near perfect |
| 14:02:31 | XavierGr | h100 too |
| 14:02:43 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr: H10? |
| 14:02:48 | XavierGr | (not h10) |
| 14:02:52 | ]RowaN[ | whats the rockbox installation procedure for the ipodnano? does it leave you able to use the original firmware still, like the h120? |
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| 14:03:45 | preglow | yes |
| 14:04:32 | ]RowaN[ | i assume with rockbox installed u can use the ipod by dragging/dropping in explorer.. how does the original firmware like files transferred in that way? |
| 14:06:15 | linuxstb | It ignores them. |
| 14:06:17 | preglow | not at all |
| 14:06:25 | ]RowaN[ | hehe |
| 14:06:44 | preglow | if you want to use both oses, you need to use the itunes method to transfer files |
| 14:06:47 | preglow | then use tagcache in rockbox |
| 14:07:06 | ]RowaN[ | itunes method? |
| 14:07:11 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, does retailos keep the tag database in memory at all times? |
| 14:07:22 | ]RowaN[ | itunes is some kind of.. program right hehe |
| 14:08:20 | PaulJam | aren't there 3rd party programms to rebiuld the itunes database after having transferred files via dra and drop? |
| 14:09:38 | t0mas | yes |
| 14:09:43 | t0mas | there's for example a winamp plugin |
| 14:09:57 | preglow | there are filename/dirname length limitations with that |
| 14:10:28 | t0mas | wasn't that enough for simeple artist/album/00-title.mp3 files? |
| 14:10:33 | t0mas | *simple |
| 14:10:45 | preglow | well |
| 14:10:55 | t0mas | depends on the names... true... |
| 14:10:57 | preglow | i've got tracks that would neatly crush that as well, if the limit is too low |
| 14:10:59 | linuxstb | preglow: I think so. It's been a while since I used it, but I don't remember the disk spinning when browsing the database. |
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| 14:11:53 | preglow | 06-The Dark Liege of Chaos Is Unleashed at the Ensorcelled Shrine of A'Zura-Kai (The Splendour of a Thousand Swords Gleaming Beneath the Blazon of the Hyperborean.ogg |
| 14:11:56 | preglow | that, for example |
| 14:11:59 | preglow | haha |
| 14:12:01 | ryran | good freakin' morning everyone |
| 14:12:02 | preglow | i think the itunesdb will barf on |
| 14:12:13 | ryran | ['cept I know it's night for a lot of you] |
| 14:12:36 | linuxstb | I think the limit used to be 56 characters, but I read that it's been reduced even more in newer versions of the Apple firmware. |
| 14:13:27 | B4gder | anyone with a gmail invite for me? |
| 14:13:36 | preglow | i've got a million |
| 14:13:44 | preglow | email addy for invite? |
| 14:13:50 | ryran | oh apple...why oh why do big companies with lots of potential make stupid decisions... |
| 14:14:02 | B4gder | preglow: daniel [at] haxx.se thanks |
| 14:14:28 | preglow | B4gder: away |
| 14:14:34 | B4gder | got it, thanks |
| 14:15:14 | ]RowaN[ | does the nano build let you put the rockbox executable inside the rockbox directory? |
| 14:16:18 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 14:16:41 | ryran | man I wish I understood more about cvs and compiling... |
| 14:17:41 | preglow | ryran: you can accomplish that through this process called "learning", i've heard |
| 14:18:04 | ryran | mmmm. yes. |
| 14:18:05 | ryran | learning. |
| 14:18:32 | ]RowaN[ | learning sounds hard |
| 14:18:50 | Zagor | how was last looking at the the ipod dock interface? |
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| 14:18:55 | Zagor | s/how/who |
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| 14:19:15 | ryran | bastard |
| 14:19:15 | linuxstb | I don't think anyone was. |
| 14:19:40 | Zagor | aha. my mind plays tricks with me again... |
| 14:20:11 | B4gder | Zagor: Christi said she wanted to do that but I don't think she ever started |
| 14:20:42 | linuxstb | Apparently the IPL people have tried getting the serial port communication with accessories working on the 4gs and later - the status seems to be that they've implemented the driver, but can't get it to talk to anything. |
| 14:21:23 | amiconn | Sounds familiar... but the chance for a solution are very low w/o hw docs |
| 14:21:25 | ryran | can someone give me a little help? I'm trying to understand when I should use values other than "0" for the -p switch (when patching cvs)? |
| 14:22:46 | linuxstb | ryran: Open up the patch in a text editor and look at the filenames at the top. The p option tells the patch command how many directories to strip from the start of those filenames when looking for the file to patch on your computer. |
| 14:22:55 | ryran | ooooooo.... |
| 14:23:20 | ryran | hmmm. |
| 14:23:40 | ryran | why would I ever need to do anything other than 0 though? |
| 14:23:55 | Zagor | Do we know any accessory that uses many of the functions in the dock? I know some car integration kits even send logos to the ipod, but a car is not the best place to reverse-engineer this... :-) |
| 14:24:11 | B4gder | ryran: if you do 'cd firmware/drivers' and the patch includes 'firmware/drivers' in the path name in the top |
| 14:24:32 | B4gder | for example |
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| 14:27:31 | Zagor | otoh a simple accessory is easier to start with |
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| 14:32:45 | linuxstb | Zagor: I assume you've seen this? http://ipodlinux.org/Apple_Accessory_Protocol |
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| 14:33:23 | Zagor | yes |
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| 14:37:06 | amiconn | Iiuc the protocol is known to some extent; what does not work is the serial driver itself |
| 14:37:22 | amiconn | The serial i/f is part of the PP ... |
| 14:38:02 | dj-fu | hey |
| 14:38:05 | dj-fu | what's a rockbox error -4 |
| 14:38:07 | dj-fu | on the bootloader? |
| 14:40:17 | linuxstb | It means the file is corrupt - the file read is failing. |
| 14:41:12 | dj-fu | hrm. that's not good |
| 14:41:49 | linuxstb | Try running a filesystem check and then copy Rockbox again. |
| 14:42:12 | dj-fu | I had it running not too long ago but the partition kept not wanting to show up in windows |
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| 14:42:14 | dj-fu | pos windows. |
| 14:42:50 | Zagor | amiconn: aha, ok |
| 14:43:27 | * | linuxstb gives Zagor a copy of IDA Pro and a constant supply of coffee... |
| 14:43:40 | Zagor | :-) |
| 14:43:51 | * | B4gder offers some more coffee |
| 14:44:59 | dj-fu | is 5minutes for a .rockbox & rockbox.ipod copy to a nano pretty standard? |
| 14:45:03 | dj-fu | I don't remeber ir being this slow |
| 14:45:12 | dj-fu | s/ir/it/ |
| 14:45:23 | linuxstb | The emergency disk mode is slow - boot to Apple's firmware for a faster disk mode. |
| 14:45:35 | Zagor | ipl seems to be able to use the remote control serial port though. of course it could be connected differently |
| 14:45:47 | linuxstb | Maybe on the 3g and earlier. |
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| 14:46:11 | Zagor | oh, later ones don't have the remote port? |
| 14:46:15 | linuxstb | The 1g-3g use the PP5002, which is completely different to the PP502x family used in the later ipods. |
| 14:46:17 | ryran | cvs/patching question again: if I'm having trouble getting multiple patches to agree with the source, is there some easy way (like some tool or something) that I can see where the conflicts are and like.. choose what to use? |
| 14:46:18 | * | Zagor is an ipod newbie |
| 14:46:30 | dj-fu | diff? ;] |
| 14:46:46 | B4gder | ryran: the "hunks" that don't apply get saved in a .rej file |
| 14:46:53 | ryran | roight |
| 14:46:53 | B4gder | read that and apply those changes manually |
| 14:47:03 | B4gder | can be everything from very easy to very hard |
| 14:47:24 | ryran | I guess this has turned out to be too big of a project to figure out at work. |
| 14:47:27 | ryran | darn. |
| 14:47:28 | ryran | :D |
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| 14:49:31 | ryran | question #3 re dry-run switch for patch: is the following proper syntax? [ patch −−dry-run -p0 < patchfile ] |
| 14:50:50 | B4gder | yes |
| 14:50:59 | ryran | hmmm |
| 14:51:39 | dongs | so i left my ipod cable at work, and i want to copy 2 mp3s to listen to tomorrow on teh way to work |
| 14:51:43 | dongs | waht should I do? |
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| 14:53:23 | amiconn | Zagor: Some of the later units do have a remote control port (my mini g2 has, and I even have a simple remote for it). But as linuxstb said, we are unable to control the serial port on PP5020+ |
| 14:53:36 | Zagor | ok |
| 14:53:37 | ryran | B4gder: it seems like the dry-run switch doesn't actually save the .rej files.. is that correct? |
| 14:53:42 | dongs | anyone have any idea for me? |
| 14:54:26 | B4gder | ryran: yes, dry run means it doesn't actually do the patch so it makes no rej files either |
| 14:54:39 | ryran | gotcha.. okay |
| 14:56:57 | ryran | ugh. I wish I understood this. the rej file is so small and simple.. yet.. I have no idea what to do with it. guess I need to look for some tutorials. |
| 14:57:59 | ryran | dongs: what are you asking??? how to transfer files to your ipod without a cable? are you serious? |
| 14:58:30 | Zweiundvierzig | I once tried to do it with telepathy |
| 14:58:33 | Zweiundvierzig | It was slow, but it worked. |
| 14:58:42 | B4gder | dongs: for next time you should write a binary mode for the text editor and then you could enter the whole song by reading the bytes in from a hexdump! :-! |
| 14:58:44 | ryran | hehehe... |
| 14:58:52 | ryran | lol |
| 14:59:15 | B4gder | rockbox needs hexl-mode |
| 14:59:52 | Mikachu | if you had prepared a program for transferring on line-in maybe, but not unprepared |
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| 15:00:02 | Mikachu | i wouldn't say it's possible in any way |
| 15:00:15 | Mikachu | unless you mean making a cable on the spot |
| 15:00:51 | PaulJam | you could take out the hd and use it with an adapter. |
| 15:01:11 | B4gder | get a bunch of paperclips and scotch tape and make a cable! |
| 15:01:31 | dongs | ryran: correct |
| 15:02:05 | ryran | eh..heh |
| 15:02:47 | ryran | B4gder or anyone else: what's the switch & syntax for undo-ing a patch? |
| 15:02:52 | freqmod | -R |
| 15:02:53 | B4gder | add -R |
| 15:03:18 | ryran | soooo "patch -R -p0 < patchfile"? |
| 15:03:22 | dongs | well screw this. i'll copy those 2 songs to my phone and listen on that until i get to work. |
| 15:03:25 | dongs | yes |
| 15:03:39 | dongs | doesnt look like im going too far without a cable |
| 15:05:47 | ryran | if one of my failed hunks is the english.lang file.. I can ignore it right? |
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| 15:08:25 | Zweiundvierzig | [15:01:11] <B4gder> get a bunch of paperclips and scotch tape and make a cable! < Mac Gyver would be proud of you. |
| 15:09:14 | B4gder | hah - you never seen MacGyver reverse engineer an mp3 player firmware. He's just a poor wannabe ;-) |
| 15:09:37 | Zweiundvierzig | ^^ |
| 15:10:06 | webguest29 | testing |
| 15:10:10 | B4gder | or maybe I missed that episode! ;-P |
| 15:10:18 | webguest29 | hello@all |
| 15:12:53 | ryran | could some ever-so-wonderful soul possibly explain to me what I could do with a .rej file, using http://b19.org/proj/SOURCES.rej as an example? (it's tiny) |
| 15:14:42 | liyang | Look at it. |
| 15:14:57 | Mikachu | you want to remove lines marked - and add lines marked + |
| 15:15:14 | ryran | no lines are marked - |
| 15:15:15 | ryran | hmmm |
| 15:15:18 | Mikachu | good for you |
| 15:15:22 | Mikachu | then you only have to add lines |
| 15:16:28 | ryran | so.. I don't understand why it couldn't do it... itself |
| 15:17:19 | Mikachu | because some of the unmarked lines are not the same anymore |
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| 15:18:06 | ryran | mmmm |
| 15:18:12 | B4gder | or you can improve patch and send them a patch with your improvements! ;-) |
| 15:18:45 | ryran | I'm pretty sure the patches are fine.. it's just that I'm trying to apply like... 3 or 4 |
| 15:18:48 | ryran | ;) |
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| 15:19:12 | B4gder | yes, we've noticed |
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| 15:19:48 | ryran | so does *** 81,83 **** indicate a line number? |
| 15:19:53 | Mikachu | yes |
| 15:20:23 | * | linuxstb unpacks his new Nokia 770 and wonders if a Rockbox port would be any use... |
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| 15:20:49 | ryran | ok..so that's the line number that the patch specified? and the problem is that what the patch thought would be there.. isn't? |
| 15:21:00 | B4gder | linuxstb: it'd make a nice picture with the sim running on it! ;-) |
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| 16:01:05 | preglow | hahah |
| 16:01:18 | preglow | showoff |
| 16:01:51 | B4gder | haha |
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| 16:02:58 | linuxstb770 | keyboard easier |
| 16:03:39 | linuxstb | I give up... That thing is slower than Rockbox's AAC decoder. |
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| 16:04:35 | merbanan | linuxstb: what did you try ? |
| 16:05:00 | merbanan | linuxstb: btw the ffmpeg aac decoder is taking shape |
| 16:05:23 | linuxstb | I've just got a Nokia 770 internet tablet... - completely unrelated to AAC :) |
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| 16:05:42 | linuxstb | Good to hear there's progress on the ffmpeg aac front though. |
| 16:06:07 | preglow | merbanan: any progress reports? |
| 16:07:16 | merbanan | preglow: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/soc2006/ look in the archives |
| 16:08:07 | linuxstb | Ah, I didn't know the soc had its own list... |
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| 16:11:35 | ryran | sweeeeeeeeeeeeetbigbootay. thanks for the tips B4gder and everyone else. I was able to get all five patches reconciled. |
| 16:13:57 | B4gder | and OheRe is back... |
| 16:14:14 | B4gder | 59.13.169.9 korea again |
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| 16:58:11 | B4gder | 'ello |
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| 18:33:43 | yeft | i'm am yet to have a forced tagcache wokr |
| 18:33:46 | yeft | work* |
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| 18:59:48 | muesli__ | is there a possibilty to copy music files from an ipod to another computer or is it impossible at all? music should play of course |
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| 19:00:40 | lou | mark files, copy them |
| 19:00:44 | XavierGr | muesli: i think you can't do that but I am not sure |
| 19:00:46 | lou | (in case you use rockbox) |
| 19:01:20 | PaulJam | do you mean drm protected files? |
| 19:01:29 | muesli__ | yeah... |
| 19:01:41 | muesli__ | im not using rbx so far |
| 19:02:07 | XavierGr | drm you can't |
| 19:02:07 | muesli__ | its my gfs ipod |
| 19:02:26 | XavierGr | non-drm: I think you can only with itunes |
| 19:02:38 | muesli__ | she ripped some cds |
| 19:02:41 | XavierGr | (using default firmware) |
| 19:02:58 | XavierGr | with rockbox you can do whatever you like |
| 19:03:25 | muesli__ | XavierGr yeah..thats for sure// |
| 19:03:55 | muesli__ | im considering to install it..but she is of course not an expert.. |
| 19:04:26 | muesli__ | once we break up she will be lost with it ;) |
| 19:04:37 | PaulJam | I think the music files are in a hidden folder (ipod-control?), but they have strange filenames. |
| 19:05:55 | muesli__ | have to look at it since its the 1st time i can have a closer look to an ipod |
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| 19:24:05 | _FireFly_ | PaulJam: they aren*t in hidden folders but they have strange filenames like a number+ext |
| 19:24:17 | _FireFly_ | at least the non drm files for drm files i don*t know |
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| 19:25:49 | RoC_MM | axfj.mp3 |
| 19:25:53 | RoC_MM | eiaz.mp3 |
| 19:26:14 | RoC_MM | they get randomly throw and distributed between directories with names like "f01" and "f02" |
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| 19:26:20 | RoC_MM | not by album or song, just by randomness |
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| 19:27:35 | XavierGr | RoC_MM: without rockbox or itunes, is it possible to copy music to the PC? |
| 19:27:48 | RoC_MM | for sure |
| 19:27:51 | RoC_MM | it's just sitting there |
| 19:28:07 | RoC_MM | just look until you find the right song |
| 19:28:09 | RoC_MM | or something |
| 19:28:18 | RoC_MM | /iPod_Control/Music/f03/sxae.mp3 |
| 19:28:28 | RoC_MM | or use yamipod or copypod or anapod or anything like that |
| 19:28:37 | XavierGr | so windows (or linux) can read the filesytem that Apple uses? |
| 19:28:43 | RoC_MM | it's fat32 |
| 19:28:56 | RoC_MM | they merely have renamed everything and randomly throw it in directories with random filenames |
| 19:29:01 | XavierGr | I thought it was a different filesystem |
| 19:29:04 | RoC_MM | no sir. |
| 19:29:19 | XavierGr | but yeah even then |
| 19:29:28 | XavierGr | what sort of stupidity is this |
| 19:29:40 | XavierGr | I would never bought an iPod for this reason |
| 19:29:51 | XavierGr | with rockbox this is another story though |
| 19:30:18 | XavierGr | but I am a happy man with my H300 and H100 |
| 19:30:38 | XavierGr | best DAPs currently and that's why Rockbox is ported |
| 19:30:43 | XavierGr | to them |
| 19:31:00 | XavierGr | I mean they are best because of Rockbox |
| 19:31:05 | Hansmaulwurf | 3.0 for H100 would be great :P |
| 19:31:10 | XavierGr | (my syntax is flawed) |
| 19:31:15 | XavierGr | indeed |
| 19:31:26 | yeft | my ipod wont dismount :( |
| 19:31:45 | XavierGr | Hansmaulwurf: but there is no difference from current CVS |
| 19:31:48 | yeft | device busy... |
| 19:31:53 | Hansmaulwurf | i know i know |
| 19:31:57 | XavierGr | unless you are talking in a greater timescale |
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| 19:32:17 | PaulJam | XavierGr: there are differences - less bugs |
| 19:32:18 | XavierGr | 3.1 would be awesome too |
| 19:32:37 | Hansmaulwurf | btw, no updates for 3 days now |
| 19:32:47 | Hansmaulwurf | everyone is watching World Cup? |
| 19:33:11 | XavierGr | PaulJam: yes but for me those bugs are not bugging me :) |
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| 19:36:33 | goffa | heh... with cvs i really don't care if 3.0 gets released.. |
| 19:37:27 | goffa | i might be thinking wrong, but i do thing the feature freeze is either a) misunderstood or b) designed with the wrong intent |
| 19:38:14 | goffa | example... on the x5... increasing functionality (like adding recording, usbotg, or fm radio) should not be frozen |
| 19:39:49 | goffa | but .. i really don't have say... i don't program.. so i'm just a sideline observer |
| 19:40:58 | goffa | however things like guitar tuner, etc that i would call bonus extras... i can see them being frozen until next release |
| 19:41:36 | PaulJam | i think noone prevents others from develping new features for other targets, they can always send a patch on the tracker |
| 19:43:02 | goffa | yeah... but if say recording is stable.. i see no reason to exclude it from 3.0 (i know that's a ways off) just using that as an example |
| 19:43:26 | goffa | but you are right... if i had knowhow i could program the stuff myself |
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| 19:50:40 | whatboutbob | any italians in here I can yell at to make me feel better? :) |
| 19:51:45 | sadeness_ | why yelling? italians have won! :-D |
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| 19:57:45 | petur | another victim of the webclient |
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| 20:21:50 | Abidibs | excuse me? |
| 20:21:56 | preglow | yes? |
| 20:22:17 | Abidibs | for the rockbox does it work on the 4th generation without any problems? |
| 20:22:29 | Abidibs | ipods btw |
| 20:23:10 | preglow | it should work fine |
| 20:23:19 | preglow | grayscale or colour? |
| 20:23:27 | Abidibs | grayscale |
| 20:23:27 | RoC_MM | 4g grey works fine |
| 20:23:55 | Abidibs | how about for a 20g? |
| 20:24:12 | RoC_MM | what generation? |
| 20:24:20 | Abidibs | 4th |
| 20:24:28 | RoC_MM | HD size is irrrelevant |
| 20:24:30 | sharpe | good morning. |
| 20:24:43 | RoC_MM | you could put an 80 in there if it fit |
| 20:24:52 | freqmod | Sharpe: good evning (20.00) |
| 20:25:17 | * | petur still waits for the 80GB disks to be actually available |
| 20:26:02 | sharpe | eh, it's two in the afternoon for me. |
| 20:26:22 | preglow | 20:24 ! |
| 20:26:31 | freqmod | East coast america? |
| 20:26:35 | Abidibs | its only 20gb, grayscale, 4th gen,but i read that it has a sligh chance of messing up the ipod,is this true? |
| 20:26:37 | sharpe | aye. |
| 20:26:44 | RoC_MM | no |
| 20:26:56 | preglow | Abidibs: there's always a change, but has not happened yet |
| 20:27:04 | preglow | Abidibs: also, your ipod can't be permanently damaged |
| 20:27:06 | RoC_MM | patching the "bootloader/firmware" is reversable, and always undoable with ipod restore utility |
| 20:27:46 | Abidibs | ok |
| 20:27:58 | Abidibs | so i get ipod restore utility and i'm safe? |
| 20:28:02 | Abidibs | lol |
| 20:28:13 | RoC_MM | no |
| 20:28:29 | RoC_MM | don't worry, if you follow the instructions it's really not possible to mess it up |
| 20:28:53 | Abidibs | and its uninstallable? |
| 20:28:57 | RoC_MM | correct. |
| 20:28:59 | sharpe | remember what i always say, it's not really possible to brick your ipod, short of having a brick... |
| 20:29:03 | RoC_MM | you will not have problems installing it. |
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| 20:29:52 | Abidibs | kk tgy |
| 20:29:54 | Abidibs | ty* |
| 20:30:12 | Abidibs | bye bye |
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| 20:30:42 | RoC_MM | bye |
| 20:31:48 | amiconn | petur: I have an 80GB disk in my Recorder :-P |
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| 22:15:47 | Rincewind_12 | hello |
| 22:17:26 | petur | shhht... don't wake the bots |
| 22:18:37 | * | petur wonders if anybody from Glasgow is in this channel |
| 22:18:45 | Rincewind_12 | I have a programming question: What are the returns of functions (for instance menu_run() or playlist_viewer() etc.) used for in gwps and tree? Some functions return true, some return false, and I don't get where this is used (with the exception of SYS_CONNECTED, I could figure that out) |
| 22:19:19 | Rincewind_12 | make that SYS_USB_CONNECTED |
| 22:22:33 | Rincewind_12 | anyone got an answer for me? |
| 22:22:51 | Mikachu | i believe they indicate whether or not to close the menu |
| 22:22:54 | Mikachu | but i'm not sure |
| 22:23:05 | goffa | so... have they made the wma patch available? |
| 22:23:27 | linuxstb | "they" ? |
| 22:23:38 | goffa | or is marsdaddy or whoever keeping it a secret? |
| 22:23:59 | linuxstb | I haven't seen a patch, no. |
| 22:24:23 | Rincewind_12 | I'm wondering because I implemented my own function to be used on button press in gwps.c and tree.c and I don't know when it should return true or false (and more important: what happens with this information) |
| 22:27:59 | midkay_ | any wiki admins around? |
| 22:29:15 | Rincewind_12 | hm, is my question too hard, too general, or are you just lazy to answer? |
| 22:29:42 | Mikachu | i don't know offhand |
| 22:29:57 | midkay_ | Rincewind_12, did you check the code and try to figure it out? |
| 22:29:58 | petur | sorry, I don't have time to check the code for you, I don't know it offhand too. rtfs please |
| 22:30:01 | preglow | linuxstb: do all mp4 files use seek tables? |
| 22:30:07 | linuxstb | Rincewind_12: I'm guessing no-one who knows the answer is around... |
| 22:30:18 | midkay_ | see where it returns true or false and look around for comments that say "return false if this happens" or "return true if the user does this", and try to infer from the code what's going on.. |
| 22:31:38 | linuxstb | preglow: All the files I've seen do. But I don't know for sure if it's required by the spec. |
| 22:32:03 | linuxstb | It's more than a seek table - every frame is indexed with it's offset in bytes and length in samples. |
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| 22:32:16 | linuxstb | (but in a compressed way). |
| 22:32:18 | preglow | linuxstb: damn, sounds like it might eat up quite a bit of space |
| 22:32:51 | preglow | linuxstb: and to think you were the one to tell me it's "its", not "it's" :> |
| 22:32:53 | Rincewind_12 | of course I read the code, but couldn't figure it out, sometimes true means usb was connected, sometimes it seems to be generally set to false. So my real question is: what happens when in the main loop in gwps.c "result=true;" and what happens if it is not set |
| 22:33:14 | Mikachu | he used "it's" correctly afaics |
| 22:33:15 | linuxstb | The length is just run-length encoded. i.e. N1 frames of length X1, N2 frames of length X2 etc (and it's was an abbreviation of it is...) |
| 22:33:33 | preglow | roit |
| 22:33:34 | linuxstb | its has no apostrophe when used like "his" or "hers" |
| 22:33:37 | Mikachu | i may have missed the joke though |
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| 22:33:49 | Rincewind_12 | I meant "return=true", not result |
| 22:34:01 | preglow | Mikachu: there are two uses of it |
| 22:34:03 | linuxstb | (and I was wrong with my first it's...) |
| 22:34:11 | * | linuxstb bows head |
| 22:34:12 | preglow | sounds like it beats ogg straight out, then |
| 22:34:17 | preglow | i just browsed the spec |
| 22:34:33 | Mikachu | is ogg silly? |
| 22:34:47 | preglow | you pretty much need to walk the entire stream |
| 22:34:48 | * | linuxstb avoids the question |
| 22:34:56 | Mikachu | i ogmmerge'd some .avis to .ogm earlier today to not lose the subtitle files, they got smaller always |
| 22:35:10 | linuxstb | FLAC's similarly bad - but at least it's possible to write a good seektable. |
| 22:35:34 | preglow | i'm a bit surprised there are no seek table support at all |
| 22:35:41 | preglow | afaik, it's not even an optional part |
| 22:35:48 | preglow | are/is/lol |
| 22:36:09 | Mikachu | didn't they think about that when designing it or were they focusing on vorbis? :) |
| 22:36:37 | Mikachu | and why does flac have its own muxing format? |
| 22:36:54 | Mikachu | i somehow got the idea it's also from xiph, but maybe not |
| 22:37:22 | preglow | it doesn't do any muxing |
| 22:37:32 | preglow | it just has better support for containerless operation than other formats |
| 22:37:45 | linuxstb | muxing implies multiple streams in same file. FLAC is always just a single stream. |
| 22:37:47 | preglow | to mux it you need to stuff it in a container, flac in ogg is seen prancing about occasionally |
| 22:37:56 | Mikachu | hm okay, so it's sort of like mp3 |
| 22:38:01 | preglow | yes |
| 22:38:09 | linuxstb | Yes, but with a standardised header. |
| 22:38:33 | linuxstb | i.e. metadata followed by audio data. |
| 22:39:10 | linuxstb | Mikachu: AFAIK, FLAC was developed independently of Xiph, and then they adopted it. |
| 22:39:20 | preglow | deed |
| 22:39:33 | Mikachu | ah |
| 22:39:40 | Mikachu | there are so many codecs, it's hard to keep up |
| 22:40:13 | linuxstb | And more coming - speex, sid, mod, wma... |
| 22:40:35 | * | preglow wants proper aac |
| 22:40:41 | preglow | let's hope this maxim fellow does a good job |
| 22:40:52 | Mikachu | not just in rockbox |
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| 22:41:05 | Mikachu | but it's almost worse with video codecs |
| 22:41:34 | preglow | i've got a nice grasp of audio codecs |
| 22:41:42 | preglow | not too good at video codecs |
| 22:41:53 | preglow | mostly because i don't care |
| 22:42:22 | preglow | Mikachu: does audacious crash when loading skins with you? |
| 22:42:36 | Mikachu | no |
| 22:42:44 | preglow | the default one looks like a bag of shit, and i'd really love to change it |
| 22:42:46 | Mikachu | check if the backtrace goes to a plugin and disable it |
| 22:42:47 | preglow | but it crashes when i do |
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| 22:42:53 | Mikachu | if it does |
| 22:43:02 | preglow | it's more probably a 64 bit deal |
| 22:43:11 | Mikachu | ah, those are fun |
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| 22:43:56 | preglow | indeed |
| 22:44:04 | Mikachu | had some in openbox |
| 22:44:52 | Mikachu | amusingly because a fixed width type was used instead of "long", apparently xlib expects native types even though the protocol needs fixed width |
| 22:45:13 | preglow | hahaha |
| 22:46:05 | Mikachu | it suddenly became warmer in here, and it's 22:46 |
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| 22:47:11 | Mikachu | why is the perfect spring weather only 1 week per year? |
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| 22:49:46 | midkay_ | perfect?! |
| 22:49:54 | * | midkay_ is sweating and not liking it |
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| 22:52:32 | * | linuxstb is very happy with London's 17°C |
| 22:53:06 | midkay | aaaaaaa. :( |
| 22:53:18 | * | midkay would *love* that |
| 22:54:19 | Mikachu | midkay: this is after the perfect season, it's too warm now |
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| 22:54:47 | midkay | Mikachu, ah.. |
| 22:54:56 | Mikachu | it's 18° outside, but it's the middle of the night |
| 22:55:15 | Mikachu | in the day it is usually around 26 |
| 22:55:54 | midkay | 81f -> 27c here at the moment.. |
| 22:56:23 | Mikachu | but it's been cloudy the last couple of days |
| 22:56:26 | midkay | expect that to rise a few degrees over the next couple hours |
| 22:56:43 | Mikachu | so it's only been 22 or so |
| 22:56:48 | Mikachu | but last week the sun was shining |
| 22:57:01 | midkay | i'd much rather it be winter. |
| 22:57:18 | Mikachu | i still prefer summer over winter, at least in sweden |
| 22:57:27 | * | midkay hates heat. |
| 22:57:33 | linuxstb | Rain is guaranteed in London for the next few weeks - Wimbledon has started. |
| 22:57:44 | midkay | lucky.. |
| 22:57:45 | Mikachu | doesn't it always rain in england? |
| 22:58:42 | linuxstb | :) |
| 22:59:00 | Mikachu | that is what i learned from donald duck pockets |
| 22:59:03 | midkay | whoa.. |
| 22:59:16 | midkay | it was 81f a few minutes ago, now google says 84.. |
| 22:59:45 | midkay | a high of 90.. please, no.. :) |
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| 23:02:59 | bagawk | midkay: heh already 100deg F here |
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| 23:04:13 | bagawk | http://www.wunderground.com/US/OR/Corvallis.html |
| 23:04:20 | midkay | nice.. |
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| 23:44:39 | preglow | bluebrother: word |
| 23:44:57 | preglow | someone do disable anonymous reports, please |
| 23:45:02 | bluebrother | ? |
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| 23:45:56 | webguest93 | hi |
| 23:46:09 | Mikachu | there is a direct link to "feature requests" on the main page |
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| 23:46:51 | webguest93 | why are there daily builds for ipods and why can't we download rockbox2.5? |
| 23:47:11 | bluebrother | webguest93, you can download rb 2.5 on the download page. |
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| 23:47:22 | webguest93 | for ipods? |
| 23:47:26 | bluebrother | but 2.5 is only for archos targets. |
| 23:47:26 | webguest93 | (ipo 5g) |
| 23:47:30 | bluebrother | no. |
| 23:47:30 | webguest93 | ipod* |
| 23:47:39 | Bagder | there never was any 2.5 for ipods |
| 23:47:40 | webguest93 | ok |
| 23:47:52 | bluebrother | 3.0 is the upcoming release for iriver and archos. |
| 23:48:03 | webguest93 | so why do we have to download a new rockbox every day? |
| 23:48:05 | bluebrother | It won't even be a release for ipod. |
| 23:48:10 | Mikachu | you don't HAVE TO |
| 23:48:14 | Bagder | webguest93: you don't need to |
| 23:48:15 | webguest93 | ok |
| 23:48:24 | bluebrother | you don't have to update every day. But you can do so. |
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| 23:48:35 | Bagder | its a service from us |
| 23:48:37 | Bagder | enjoy |
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| 23:49:15 | linuxstb | preglow, bluebrother: I agree, I can't think of a good reason to allow anonymous tracker tasks. |
| 23:49:23 | Bagder | that was the 7th(!) request for audible support |
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| 23:49:40 | webguest93 | yea...because sometimes there is no canges for it anyway |
| 23:49:45 | bluebrother | oh, the 7th? I just searched shortly for it, but I haven't counted |
| 23:50:00 | * | Bagder just counted ;-) |
| 23:50:04 | webguest93 | will there ever be any 2.5 or 3.0 for ipod? |
| 23:50:07 | bluebrother | webguest93, the last days have been pretty quiet. |
| 23:50:11 | bluebrother | no, never. |
| 23:50:20 | Mikachu | webguest93: 3.1 will be for ipods |
| 23:50:21 | webguest93 | ok |
| 23:50:25 | bluebrother | for ipod, the first release that is planned is 3.1 |
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| 23:51:09 | webguest93 | sweet |
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| 23:51:11 | * | bluebrother should train touchtyping again |
| 23:51:20 | webguest93 | any dates for that yet? |
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| 23:52:02 | Bagder | we can't keep dates anyway |
| 23:52:11 | bluebrother | see the wiki. 3.1 is scheduled for the end of the year. |
| 23:52:19 | bluebrother | but I guess this will change :) |
| 23:52:21 | Bagder | if we're lucky |
| 23:52:24 | Mikachu | maybe 3.0 will be released by then |
| 23:52:48 | bluebrother | maybe. The freeze is getting pretty long :( |
| 23:54:48 | preglow | there's no way we'll make that |
| 23:54:51 | preglow | no way in hell |
| 23:55:07 | preglow | for 3.1, that is |
| 23:55:25 | webguest93 | is 3.1 going to be sweet? |
| 23:55:28 | preglow | preliminary date should be stricken from the wiki as soon as possible, and replaced with "we don't do dates anymore" |
| 23:55:43 | Bagder | webguest93: if many devs do sweet things |
| 23:55:58 | webguest93 | sweet |
| 23:56:09 | Mikachu | there are indications of some sweetness in the tracker |
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| 23:56:25 | Mikachu | oh no, it's that_asian_guy |
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| 23:56:33 | that_asian_guy | lol |
| 23:56:55 | bluebrother | how good I'm a european guy :D |
| 23:57:20 | that_asian_guy | why oh no? |
| 23:57:27 | Mikachu | just kidding |
| 23:57:48 | Mikachu | i'm a bit random at this time of night |
| 23:58:02 | that_asian_guy | its like 3 over here |
| 23:58:15 | Mikachu | it will be 0 here in a minute |
| 23:58:21 | that_asian_guy | you in like england or what? |
| 23:58:48 | Mikachu | close |
| 23:58:53 | Mikachu | sweden |
| 23:58:57 | that_asian_guy | scotland? |
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