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| 00:06:21 | EbErT | LinusN: i'll find one of the song files for you, brb |
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| 00:06:47 | EbErT | dangit |
| 00:12:22 | Bagder | international phone calls have gone dirt cheap lately |
| 00:12:55 | EbErT | regular calls? |
| 00:13:02 | Bagder | yeah |
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| 00:17:14 | preglow | rotator: i think you can just commit it, really |
| 00:17:42 | rotator | preglow: ok, i will then :) |
| 00:20:52 | Bagder | yay |
| 00:20:57 | Bagder | commit! |
| 00:21:33 | rotator | :D The first one in several days! |
| 00:21:46 | Bagder | indeed |
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| 00:37:56 | rotator | uh oh! problem with the build servers, it looks like |
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| 00:38:23 | obo | yeah, debian unstable tries to uninstall libsdl1.2-dev at the moment |
| 00:39:24 | rotator | hmm, "configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you don't have SDL (properly) installed" |
| 00:39:39 | Bagder | that's Chisti's server |
| 00:39:42 | Bagder | I'll mail her |
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| 00:41:01 | Bagder | disabled sdl on her server for now |
| 00:41:35 | rotator | now can someone please close my tracker entry? :) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5602 |
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| 00:42:11 | Bagder | now you can do it yourself ;-) |
| 00:42:24 | rotator | weee, thanks! |
| 00:42:27 | petur | yihaaa |
| 00:43:05 | petur | 4 days between 2 commits... |
| 00:43:50 | rotator | yeah, the feature freeze seems to have become a developer freeze :/ |
| 00:49:50 | rotator | ...or maybe it's just the world cup to blame :p |
| 00:50:29 | petur | in my case the world cup is not to blame, just life in general :/ |
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| 00:51:36 | user01 | how do i know if my ipod is formatted for w32? |
| 00:51:39 | preglow | pretty much the case with me too |
| 00:52:08 | preglow | but now i've gotta sleep |
| 00:52:08 | preglow | later |
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| 00:53:12 | user01 | i just took it out of the box i got it just to try to put rockbox on it :D |
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| 01:02:51 | apo`DIE | user01: Uh... if windows can read it, it should be :P |
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| 01:03:25 | apo`DIE | And when you open the drive's properties it should say filesystem: FAT32 |
| 01:03:42 | apo`DIE | < Back to his presentation about digital image editing ~_~ |
| 01:05:58 | user01 | apo`DIE: windows is asking me to format it...is that safe to do? |
| 01:06:13 | apo`DIE | Um... |
| 01:06:15 | apo`DIE | Dunno |
| 01:06:19 | apo`DIE | read the friendly manual? |
| 01:06:20 | apo`DIE | ^^; |
| 01:06:31 | Mikachu | user01: start the ipod, and go to About, it should say mac or windows there |
| 01:08:20 | apo`DIE | Man... I dunno what to write anymore ~_~ |
| 01:08:24 | user01 | Mikachu: nope it doesnt |
| 01:08:39 | user01 | its a 4g grayscale |
| 01:09:15 | apo`DIE | Settings -> About -> Scroll down |
| 01:09:43 | user01 | apo`DIE: i did the last entry is model number |
| 01:09:49 | apo`DIE | Oo |
| 01:10:16 | apo`DIE | Then just plug it in and run the iPod updater |
| 01:14:34 | user01 | ah off the apple site ? |
| 01:14:56 | user01 | apo`DIE: was hoping to just install rock box out of the box |
| 01:15:18 | apo`DIE | Don't you have a CD that came with it? |
| 01:15:21 | user01 | yep |
| 01:15:26 | apo`DIE | Then just run it :P |
| 01:15:54 | user01 | ah ok i thought it would install itunes cr** |
| 01:16:15 | apo`DIE | Hm |
| 01:16:25 | apo`DIE | Does anybody here happen to know when the first graphic tablet was invented? |
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| 01:17:00 | falso | hello. |
| 01:17:24 | falso | anyone knows if there is any way to make tagcache read flac tags |
| 01:17:34 | user01 | depends what you mean by graphic but i think cave people had slate tablets...least my grandfather did |
| 01:17:51 | midkay | apo`DIE, wikipedia is pretty useful for these things: The first graphics tablet resembling contemporary tablets was the RAND Tablet, also known as the Grafacon (for Graphic Converter), introduced in 1964. |
| 01:18:09 | apo`DIE | midkay: Already found it |
| 01:18:21 | apo`DIE | I was searching in the German article, and that doesn't have it |
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| 01:18:22 | apo`DIE | ^^; |
| 01:18:26 | midkay | :) |
| 01:20:01 | user01 | it doesnt matter who first made it anyway, its who first made money off of it...bill gates will tell you that :) |
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| 01:20:41 | falso | anyone? |
| 01:20:46 | user01 | man ipod install makes you reboot... brb :P |
| 01:22:01 | midkay | falso, no, tagcache just doesn't. |
| 01:22:14 | midkay | user01, why not just say 'don't reboot'? |
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| 01:24:00 | falso | midkay, any idea why? |
| 01:24:07 | falso | cause rockbox can read flac tags |
| 01:24:17 | midkay | wait, 'flac tags'? |
| 01:24:34 | midkay | like id3 tags in flac files? tagcache should recognize FLAC files.. |
| 01:25:01 | falso | but it doesnt |
| 01:25:24 | midkay | it did for me, when i had FLAC files. |
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| 01:28:01 | linuxstb_ | falso: All my files are FLAC, and tagcache has no problems... |
| 01:28:19 | falso | strange |
| 01:29:14 | linuxstb_ | Does Rockbox display the tags when you play the files from the file browser? |
| 01:29:21 | falso | yes |
| 01:29:25 | falso | thats why i find it strange |
| 01:29:59 | linuxstb_ | So what's the problem? None of your flac files show in tagcache, or they show as "unknown" ? |
| 01:30:11 | falso | they dont show up there |
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| 04:02:27 | Rob2222 | Will a iPod HD work in a iRiver? Does anybody know? |
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| 04:03:47 | thomas | anybody know why this hasn't been developed for Creative Zen players? Lack of interest, or is it hardware related? |
| 04:04:19 | Mikachu | porting to a new player isn't easy |
| 04:04:46 | scorche | Rob2222: i dont see why it wouldnt work |
| 04:05:02 | thomas | yeah i'm just wondering because the creative zens are much more popular than some of the players already supported. |
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| 04:05:51 | scorche | thomas: it isnt about being the most popular...it is more of a matter of if certain people who are motivated enough and skilled enough come forward |
| 04:06:14 | thomas | bah not me. |
| 04:06:16 | scorche | and if they dont have the player/dont want to port it.. |
| 04:06:20 | thomas | zens miss out on all the fun. |
| 04:06:48 | Rob2222 | scorche Cause Apple hase some hidden partitions on it. |
| 04:07:27 | scorche | Rob2222: and you cant low-level the drive and re-partition it? |
| 04:08:15 | Rob2222 | atm i have a MK6006 drive here with a very strange behaviour. and i dont know if its from an apple. |
| 04:08:19 | Mikachu | you haven't been able to low-level format a drive in the last 20 years |
| 04:08:27 | Rob2222 | i cant partition it with PM or windows partition. |
| 04:08:27 | Mikachu | but you should be able to repartition it just fine |
| 04:08:47 | Rob2222 | HD-tune disc surface test got _no_ errors |
| 04:08:48 | scorche | thomas: this is as far as creative has gone http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3320.0 |
| 04:08:56 | thomas | thanks scorche |
| 04:09:32 | Rob2222 | windlg (western digital) refuses to write 00s on the disc |
| 04:09:44 | Rob2222 | i have no idea what to do atm |
| 04:11:16 | Rob2222 | is there a good low level format tool? |
| 04:11:32 | scorche | Rob2222: sorry...i didnt mean low-level format |
| 04:11:44 | Rob2222 | i know |
| 04:11:47 | Rob2222 | fill with 00 |
| 04:11:51 | scorche | but as Mikachu said, just re-partitioning should be fine |
| 04:11:52 | Rob2222 | is ok, tpoo |
| 04:12:08 | Rob2222 | i cant re partionate ... i get an error. |
| 04:12:19 | Rob2222 | but i didnt get read/write errors |
| 04:12:30 | scorche | what error? |
| 04:12:40 | scorche | and what prog are you using to do this? |
| 04:14:18 | Rob2222 | f.e. hey workshop says when opening that drive: This drive contains a layout irregularity - the partition (....240 sectors) appears to be larger then the volume (.....241 sectors). This is likely a corrupt drive or some form of copy protection. |
| 04:15:29 | Rob2222 | Whindows Drivemanager says when formatting: The format couldnt be done errorless. |
| 04:15:32 | Rob2222 | -h |
| 04:18:42 | Rob2222 | well, there a 2 possibilities... |
| 04:18:58 | Rob2222 | there is a strange bit pattern on the disc that confuses all apps |
| 04:19:05 | Rob2222 | OR the drive is defect |
| 04:19:28 | Rob2222 | is there a tool that erases the full drive? at best from windows? |
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| 04:27:28 | Rob2222 | Well, lets see if "Killdisk" can handle it. |
| 04:32:43 | EbErT | yes, Rob2222 there are programs that can write zero's through the whole disk |
| 04:33:06 | EbErT | my dad uses one for windows, dunno the name tho, and i use mac |
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| 08:28:40 | saratoga | i was skimming today's log and I noticed someone named "josh" asking about the 3G port |
| 08:28:48 | saratoga | anyone know who he is or how I can contact him? |
| 08:29:18 | saratoga | not sure how much help i'd be, but I could at least give him a rough idea of what was going on |
| 08:31:52 | anti33t | hmm i fixed my PC yay |
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| 08:36:48 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:37:08 | anti33t | hey amiconn |
| 08:37:13 | amiconn | Is it valid (by posix rules) if a path contains extraneous slashes? |
| 08:37:15 | Zagor | saratoga: lets just hope he comes back. he didn't leave any contact info, we only have his IP address |
| 08:37:44 | amiconn | I mean, is //path/to/file valid and does mean the same as /path/to/file ? |
| 08:37:46 | Zagor | amiconn: you mean trailing, or double? |
| 08:38:16 | Zagor | I think so, but haven't read that part of the specification. |
| 08:38:40 | Zagor | most systems treat it the same at least |
| 08:38:41 | amiconn | Beacuse, rockbox accepts this for normal paths, but not for multi-volume paths. //path/to/file works, but //<MMC1>/path/to/file does not |
| 08:38:49 | Slasheri | at least it should work fine and is quite commonly used in scripts |
| 08:39:10 | amiconn | (but /<MMC1>//path/to/file would) |
| 08:39:41 | amiconn | The leading doble slash is the cause why the stats plugin does only index the internal flash on Ondio |
| 08:41:14 | amiconn | SO the question is whether to fix the stats plugin or fix dir.c |
| 08:41:59 | JdGordon | fix dir.c and get rid of te problem for good... |
| 08:42:10 | anti33t | oooh me like that |
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| 08:43:21 | Slasheri | it seems like the strip_volume -function has the bug |
| 08:43:35 | Slasheri | it should just ignore all leading slashes first |
| 08:43:59 | anti33t | theres a bug with the sound thing when you turn the ipod off, it keeps making a static noise |
| 08:45:06 | amiconn | Slasheri: The question is whether this is a bug, or whether extraneous slashes shouldn't be allowed |
| 08:45:57 | JdGordon | if u disallow them there is a lot of work needed to enforce it.. |
| 08:46:19 | * | JdGordon is half asleep btw, so feel free to ignore and call me stupid :p |
| 08:46:23 | Slasheri | amiconn: i would think fixing the bug might be better |
| 08:47:19 | Slasheri | so extraneous slashes would be then allowed anywhere of the filename |
| 08:48:19 | amiconn | Cater for the lazy coders? ;) |
| 08:48:25 | JdGordon | yup :D |
| 08:48:58 | Zagor | there's probably a fair amount of playlists in the world with double slashes too |
| 08:49:10 | amiconn | ? |
| 08:49:19 | amiconn | I've never seen one... |
| 08:49:33 | amiconn | What program would generate such playlists? |
| 08:49:55 | Zagor | broken ones :-) |
| 08:50:30 | amiconn | I'd rather want to adhere to posix here. If posix says extra slashes are legal, then handle them |
| 08:52:32 | Zagor | # (POSIX says: "a pathname that begins with two successive slashes |
| 08:52:32 | Zagor | # may be interpreted in an implementation-defined manner, although |
| 08:52:32 | Zagor | # more than two leading slashes shall be treated as a single slash.") |
| 08:52:53 | Zagor | found in some source code |
| 08:53:10 | Zagor | not a posix document |
| 08:54:20 | Zagor | "POSIX says that mutliple slashes are interpreted as a single slash, and everyone else adopted that." −− http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mason-devel&m=110032199509450&w=2 |
| 08:54:38 | JdGordon | yay! lazy coders win again :D |
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| 09:24:07 | Zagor | Our friendly wiki spammer OheRe offers $500 to keep his page in the wiki... |
| 09:26:53 | webmind | sounds like advertisement |
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| 09:31:04 | petur | this morning my h340 refused to play music :( |
| 09:31:36 | petur | It showed the wps, everything looked ok but time stayed 0:00 |
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| 09:32:11 | petur | I don't see this issue mentioned in the wiki, anybody know of this? |
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| 09:39:35 | * | petur adds the issue to the wiki |
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| 09:46:47 | roland | good morning... |
| 09:47:26 | roland | any linux users out there? |
| 09:47:45 | scorche | nope |
| 09:47:49 | scorche | absolutely none |
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| 09:50:23 | roland | :-/ sarcasm? ... hmm... i'm trying do make a little script for automatical _two-way_-syncing when the iPod is plugged in... but unison is _very_ slow with vfat, so the directory check takes an hour... anyone got a solution? |
| 09:50:29 | * | petur thinks there are many linux users *out there* and none *in here* (atm) |
| 09:51:23 | crashd | roland: how about rolling your own? |
| 09:52:11 | Zagor | roland: have you looked at rsync? |
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| 09:54:59 | Zagor | sounds strange that unison is slow on vfat. I can't see why it would be. |
| 09:55:38 | roland | yes, but rsync only provides syncing (one way)... and i want the changes in both directions be synced (eg: deleting file on ipod -> file deleted on workstation, file added on workstation -> file added to ipod, new file on ipod -> file added to workstation ...), |
| 09:56:02 | Zagor | roland: you can always run rsync two times, one for each direction.. |
| 09:56:10 | B4gder | not really |
| 09:56:14 | Zagor | no? |
| 09:56:19 | B4gder | but otoh |
| 09:56:22 | roland | after the first rsync the dirs are synced |
| 09:56:34 | Zagor | roland: only if you allow rsync to remove files |
| 09:56:35 | B4gder | you can never delete anything if you sync two-way |
| 09:57:08 | Zagor | B4gder: exactly, that's a conflict that must be handled manually either way |
| 09:57:37 | B4gder | personally, I completely avoid taking that route |
| 09:57:39 | roland | dont think so: the underlying directory got a newer timestamp, so in some cases its not conflicting |
| 09:58:10 | B4gder | yeah, but dates on a DAP is likely to not be accurate over time |
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| 10:00:34 | roland | it conflicts only i think when the same file is manipulated on both machines... |
| 10:01:42 | roland | @zagor: don't know if vfat is the problem, perhaps the bottleneck USB. |
| 10:02:05 | roland | of the controller of the iPod... |
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| 10:26:16 | amiconn | B4gder: You *can* delete files when syncing two-way, but it requires a history database |
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| 10:35:57 | B4gder | right, that's another way |
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| 10:40:42 | roland | didn't unison create one? |
| 10:41:10 | B4gder | I don't even know what unison is so I have no idea |
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| 10:45:38 | webguest21 | roland: are you running unison with the fastcheck option? |
| 10:47:53 | webguest21 | with that option on here it still takes a long time to create the initial database, but syncing after that is a lot faster |
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| 10:57:09 | pmo | hmm... :( ... i'd like to access my AV500 through my linux notebook.. but not luck till now.. and sounds like googling doesn't help much, can someone give me some tips.. or anything.. one hour lost :( |
| 10:57:50 | B4gder | welcome to #rockbox |
| 10:58:01 | B4gder | this is a channel for... rockbox |
| 10:59:29 | pmo | yes i had a look.. googling.. brought me in here.. complain to google ;-) ok.. well i see what you mean.. no thank for no help :) next time don't leave the door open.. in case some junk people like me just come in, and bother your silent room :) |
| 10:59:51 | B4gder | we show them the door too |
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| 11:00:00 | B4gder | go whine somewhere else |
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| 11:00:15 | scorche | shame on us for leaving the door open... |
| 11:00:35 | * | petur checks if the lock is jammed |
| 11:01:24 | * | petur fails to find the door |
| 11:01:34 | B4gder | darn, someone stole it again? ;-P |
| 11:02:13 | roland | whats an av500? |
| 11:02:20 | B4gder | an Archos thing |
| 11:02:25 | B4gder | ask google |
| 11:02:35 | scorche | they are quite nice |
| 11:02:50 | petur | it's a pmp (movie stuff) I think |
| 11:02:55 | B4gder | yeps |
| 11:03:02 | B4gder | runs linux even iirc |
| 11:03:08 | scorche | and some of the models use a 2.5 drive too ^_^ |
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| 11:03:25 | roland | too big for sports jacket pocket... |
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| 11:04:02 | scorche | they can also be used as a mobile pvr |
| 11:05:26 | anti33t | butters got a ninja star stuck in his eye |
| 11:05:36 | scorche | heh..old ep |
| 11:05:44 | scorche | ...and gets taken to the vet |
| 11:06:17 | roland | damn weather... |
| 11:06:28 | anti33t | lol |
| 11:06:54 | roland | 27C, sunlight and the evil crying of the birds... |
| 11:07:48 | anti33t | butters goddamit, we are trying to help you, stop being so much of an asshole |
| 11:09:24 | roland | anyway... it's exam-time, so the girls at university are well dressed... |
| 11:09:29 | anti33t | yay |
| 11:09:40 | anti33t | girls girls girls |
| 11:09:57 | anti33t | hell i thaught i was in OCNZ.... |
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| 11:29:39 | * | B4gder curses google |
| 11:29:48 | webmind | h? |
| 11:29:51 | webmind | er |
| 11:29:51 | webmind | hm? |
| 11:29:54 | B4gder | they bloody hijacked my account and modified the email address for me |
| 11:29:56 | ashridah | ? |
| 11:30:04 | * | B4gder shakes fist |
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| 11:30:17 | B4gder | just because I got a gmail account |
| 11:30:25 | B4gder | they think I should use that for all my google crap |
| 11:30:35 | webmind | bah |
| 11:30:36 | B4gder | and I do not agree |
| 11:30:42 | webmind | understandable |
| 11:30:45 | ashridah | yeah, they're fairly big into centralization |
| 11:30:52 | Mushroom | One day, it'll be "Google - We own you" |
| 11:30:55 | B4gder | suddently I couldn't login |
| 11:30:57 | webmind | Mushroom, uhuh |
| 11:31:06 | idnar | "one day"? :P |
| 11:31:19 | webmind | idnar, they don't use that sentance yet |
| 11:31:34 | B4gder | not in public, but I'm sure they think so ;-) |
| 11:31:40 | Mushroom | Ya, they're still pretending that "Don't be evil" means something |
| 11:31:41 | webmind | uhuh |
| 11:31:42 | idnar | "In Soviet Russia..." |
| 11:31:53 | webmind | you own google ? |
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| 11:33:08 | B4gder | maybe we can use the rockbox fund to buy google and make them good again? ;-) |
| 11:34:11 | roland | will i get a job? |
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| 11:36:09 | B4gder | sure, but not a paid one |
| 11:36:12 | B4gder | :-P |
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| 12:19:53 | Rob2222_ | A girl askes me to assemble a 60GB HD in a H340, that she bought. Now I have the unit here, the H340 has a broken earphone jack and it looks like the 60GB HD is defect to. I didnt manage it to partition it. :( |
| 12:25:32 | Bg3r | Rob2222_ what are the exact symptoms? |
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| 12:31:45 | Rob2222_ | Well, the HD was partitioned. I build in, copied files on it. Put H300 to charge. Came back and saw that 80 % of the letters of the dirs and the filenames are strange letters. like ascii art. I tried to copy some of them => BSOD. After restart I deleted the partition and try to make a new. With all programs (Windows, Partition magic, SwissKnife) I got errors. But the drife performs under HD Tune a |
| 12:31:45 | Rob2222_ | full surface test without errors. :( |
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| 12:33:25 | Rob2222 | f.e. hey workshop says when opening that drive: This drive contains a layout irregularity - the partition (....240 sectors) appears to be larger then the volume (.....241 sectors). This is likely a corrupt drive or some form of copy protection. |
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| 12:34:58 | Rob2222 | SwissKnife crashes and Windows and Partition Magic gave only standard errors. |
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| 12:38:44 | Bg3r | hm |
| 12:39:01 | Rob2222 | I wiped the hole disc with 00s over night. |
| 12:39:05 | Rob2222 | Same problem. |
| 12:39:24 | Rob2222 | ATM i fear that the firmware of the drive is defect. |
| 12:40:09 | Rob2222 | I just dont know, if the drive was defect, or if the H340 damaged it. |
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| 12:40:55 | Bg3r | no idea :( |
| 12:41:14 | Bg3r | did you try the HDD with another player ? |
| 12:41:32 | Rob2222 | atm, i try the HDD in my 1,8" USB 2.0 adapter. |
| 12:41:55 | PaulJam | can you boot the device and try if you can fix it with the internal format option? |
| 12:42:25 | Rob2222 | i could, had to reassemble, but afaik the H340 cant format 60gb discs |
| 12:42:48 | Bg3r | Rob2222 very strange.. |
| 12:43:39 | Rob2222 | Yes, thats right! Cause it has no read errors the whole disc and the 00s wipe was good, to. |
| 12:44:02 | Rob2222 | But it wont let me partition the drive in H340 or USB adapter at 2 different pcs. |
| 12:45:19 | Bg3r | what do you read back after wiping it with zeroes? |
| 12:46:08 | Rob2222 | I just tried to make a partition after it. |
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| 12:48:53 | Rob2222 | iRiver FW says "Cant format" ... well thats normal with 60GB discs afaik |
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| 12:52:09 | Rob2222 | And one strange thing: I start the Windows Partitioner, say create a new partition then there is a field where to set the size. Ther is in: 57224. Now i click the DOWN arrow and it jumps to 8 MB. OK so far. When I click down again, it stays at 8mb, ok, too. |
| 12:52:49 | Rob2222 | BUT! when i click now UP, he goes to 7MB, 6.5.4.3.2.1.0.-1.-2 .... !!! |
| 12:53:36 | XavierGr | Rob: then you are right the disk is f*cked up |
| 12:54:04 | Rob2222 | The firmware of the disc, right? |
| 12:54:19 | XavierGr | Though Rob: Are you sure that the iriver firmware can't quick format the 60gb disk? |
| 12:54:40 | Rob2222 | yes, i tried |
| 12:54:54 | Rob2222 | and i read in board that there comes "cant format" |
| 12:55:01 | XavierGr | ah , okay then |
| 12:55:26 | XavierGr | But I remember that I formatted my 60gb disk that way |
| 12:55:41 | XavierGr | (Default firmware and quick format) |
| 12:55:47 | Rob2222 | hmm, i dont know. maybe it works with a new FW |
| 12:56:18 | XavierGr | so you've tried a quick format with iriver fw on a good 60gb disk too? |
| 12:56:52 | Rob2222 | Oh man, I didnt want to say, that her H340 and the disc is defect. Even more, she contacted me over ebay, as I sold my H340 with 60GB disc, and I didnt know her personally. :( |
| 12:57:05 | Rob2222 | XavierGr: No, didnt tried that. |
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| 12:59:42 | Rob2222 | Well, OK, if the FW doesnt report the right data to partition the drive, but I can read/write all sectors, couldnt I just copy a partition table to the disc and see if it works in the iriver? |
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| 13:01:33 | XavierGr | you can try |
| 13:01:42 | XavierGr | delete the mbr and copy a new one |
| 13:02:02 | XavierGr | but who knows what will happen. |
| 13:03:53 | Rob2222 | which sectors i have to copy? do you know? |
| 13:04:31 | XavierGr | no I am not sure |
| 13:05:11 | XavierGr | rob:I have to go now, but when I come back I can send you my mbr if you still need it. |
| 13:05:42 | XavierGr | then with a utility you can whipe out the old and write the new one |
| 13:06:12 | Rob2222 | OK, driveimage gives at least a little error: The physical configuration at disc 2 does not fit with the OS-information. (translated by me) |
| 13:06:27 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 13:06:33 | Rob2222 | we will see XavierGr |
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| 13:42:13 | Bg3r | Rob2222 any jumpers on those 1.8" drives ? |
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| 14:00:32 | ryran | hey all |
| 14:00:43 | Dgently | Howdy |
| 14:00:46 | ryran | have a quick cvs question for any kind soul |
| 14:01:04 | Bg3r | shoot |
| 14:01:15 | B4gder | it'd be even quicker without annoucing it first ;-) |
| 14:01:15 | ryran | thanks |
| 14:01:21 | ryran | hehe |
| 14:01:42 | ryran | I don't really know cvs commands or what the switches mean, but I know cvs -q up -dPC will totally update my directory, replacing local copies |
| 14:02:02 | ryran | what if.. I just want to check and see if I'm actually MISSING anything, without overwriting local stuff? |
| 14:02:11 | Bg3r | cvs up -dP |
| 14:02:15 | ryran | ah the c |
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| 14:02:23 | ryran | what's the -q do? |
| 14:02:35 | B4gder | quiet |
| 14:02:44 | B4gder | I think |
| 14:02:54 | Bg3r | -q Cause CVS to be somewhat quiet. |
| 14:02:54 | ryran | wonder why someone told me to use that... |
| 14:03:14 | B4gder | -q hardly makes any differences, cvs always talk too much for my taste... |
| 14:03:42 | Bg3r | Usage: cvs update [-APCdflRp] [-k kopt] [-r rev] [-D date] [-j rev] |
| 14:03:48 | Bg3r | -C Overwrite locally modified files with clean repository copies. |
| 14:04:27 | Bg3r | (gathered from the cvs -H update output) |
| 14:04:39 | Bg3r | i mean "cvs -H update" |
| 14:04:44 | Dgently | I have an Acrchos FMR question I'm hoping someone can help me with. |
| 14:05:06 | Dgently | I had a Hitachi 80g in it, pulled it out and put a Samsung 120g in it. |
| 14:05:17 | ryran | thanks Bg3r y B4gder ;) |
| 14:05:30 | Dgently | Now I'm getting ATA -32 panic errors, and it goes to the ata debug screen. |
| 14:05:32 | Bg3r | B4gder maybe we should add something like "Don't ask for asking, just ask" ... |
| 14:05:42 | ryran | lol |
| 14:05:50 | PaulJam_ | can it be, that the text viewer plugin has a problem with files, that start with an empty line? |
| 14:06:07 | Dgently | rofl |
| 14:06:37 | B4gder | Dgently: does the drive work elsewhere or in plain usb-mode? |
| 14:06:47 | JdGordon | PaulJam_: its possible, but i dont think that would be the problem if your talking about the refusing to load certain files |
| 14:06:50 | Dgently | I have a question to ask. Can I ask a question? Besides this one? Er... I mean another one, kinda like this one, but not the same? <g> |
| 14:07:23 | Dgently | It seems to work in plain USB mode. At least it let me transfer 80gigs back on to it with no problems. |
| 14:07:54 | PaulJam_ | if i open a textfile that has an empty first line with the viewer in the sim it hangs, and if i remove the first line from the file it works in the sim |
| 14:08:22 | B4gder | PaulJam_: nasty |
| 14:08:38 | Dgently | It was a brand new drive, and I was planning on pulling it today for further testing, but I was hoping to get a bit of advice on what a -32 error was first. |
| 14:08:51 | Dgently | I hate undoing all those solder joints. PITA. |
| 14:08:59 | B4gder | solder joints? |
| 14:09:06 | PaulJam_ | the file has CR+LF line endings, if that is important. |
| 14:09:23 | Dgently | On the FMR you either have to bend the case, or unsolder the motherboard. |
| 14:09:28 | B4gder | oh |
| 14:09:33 | B4gder | how awkward |
| 14:09:42 | * | B4gder only has a recv1 |
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| 14:10:08 | Dgently | overall I like the little bugger. |
| 14:10:13 | B4gder | (in my Archos stash that is ;-)) |
| 14:10:47 | Slasheri | ah, finally got some time to work with tagcache. redefining the menu entries, allowing tagcache to be loaded in ram without dircache enabled and proper support for deleting entries from the db |
| 14:10:52 | Dgently | I am going to be looking for a replacement though, fairly soon. Anyone have any advice on something that runs rockbox, takes 2.5" drives, and has a nice color screen? |
| 14:11:07 | B4gder | Dgently: there is none :-( |
| 14:11:22 | Dgently | that explains why I can't find one. |
| 14:11:24 | Dgently | dangit |
| 14:11:47 | ryran | Slasheri: that sounds exciting! are you one of the main devs? |
| 14:12:01 | B4gder | Dgently: then hope for this effort to take off => http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3978.0 |
| 14:12:22 | B4gder | Slasheri: nice work |
| 14:12:39 | Slasheri | ryran: yes, the creator of the tagcache :) |
| 14:12:56 | B4gder | Slasheri: did you spot hardeep is working on a host-based tagcache generator |
| 14:12:58 | Dgently | I want! |
| 14:13:06 | ryran | sweet! |
| 14:13:09 | Dgently | And thanks for all the work, Slasheri. |
| 14:13:19 | JdGordon | Slasheri: u gonna add the patch t rename tagnavi.config so u can safly update without having it overwritten? |
| 14:13:20 | Slasheri | B4gder: yes, i noticed that. Sounds really interesting :) |
| 14:13:30 | Dgently | brb,afk |
| 14:13:43 | Slasheri | JdGordon: yes, i will. probably doing the commits at next week |
| 14:13:50 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:14:12 | ryran | oooooo mmmmm tagcache updates... can't wait |
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| 14:17:15 | JdGordon | Slasheri: any chance of a dir browser in the TC browser (or the other way around) in the foreseable future? |
| 14:18:21 | Slasheri | JdGordon: yes, implementing tagcache as a virtual dir has been a planned feature |
| 14:18:40 | Slasheri | but i can't say when that will happen :P |
| 14:18:46 | JdGordon | ok :_ |
| 14:19:01 | JdGordon | that was meant to be a :) stupid keybord |
| 14:19:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | All you'd *really* need is the ability to set shortcuts to file views (or specific files) in TagNavi.config |
| 14:19:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you should do "Show All files" allfiles.cfg or something, so that choosing it ran that config, you'd be set, wouldn't you? |
| 14:20:48 | JdGordon | not quite... |
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| 14:21:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Howsat? |
| 14:22:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though I guess the virtual directory is a more user friendly method. |
| 14:22:18 | JdGordon | it could be done like that, but there is a bit of work needed... |
| 14:22:27 | JdGordon | anywho, im off to bed, cyaz |
| 14:23:03 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is just a fan of extending the capabilities of TagNavi.config, but *not* creating non-existing entries in the filetree. |
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| 14:23:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | If a user wants to see the ID3 database, couldn't they just save a config in the root that sets the file view to ID3 database? Which means that really you just need an easy way *back* from TagCache |
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| 14:24:04 | Slasheri | Now the menu entries for tagcache are: Initialize now, Update now, Auto update (yes/no), Load to RAM (yes/no) |
| 14:24:23 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: Hmm, in theory yes |
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| 14:26:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Slasheri: Really I'm just trying to come up with alternatives. While the virtual directory entry is okay, I personally don't like the idea of having directory entries that aren't physically files on the disk. It's possible when the forced update is run, it could create a .cfg in the root with just the line to change the file view, which would also mean that it only shows up after the cache is initialized (though it'd stick arou |
| 14:26:36 | preglow | that got truncated |
| 14:27:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | At what word? |
| 14:29:49 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: hmm, interesting. Or then we could just implement some static shortcut to/from the the tagcache |
| 14:32:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just personally would rather if it shows up in the filetree, it actually be a file is all. :) |
| 14:33:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | The filetree already confuses iPod users without it becoming a Filetree++ with non-file entries. |
| 14:34:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then again, people can adapt, and a virtual entry would certainly be the easiest for quick navigation both ways. |
| 14:34:26 | preglow | how can a file tre confuse? |
| 14:34:29 | preglow | tree too |
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| 14:39:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | preglow: Because they go into it expecting a menu, and see either a blank screen, or the automatically present folders that happen to align with menu entries in the iPod software, so they think they're looking at a menu that is completely devoid of options. Having an *actual* menu entry there, sorta, that is very definitely not a folder on the disk, just makes it more awkward. |
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| 14:39:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | That wasn't truncated too, was it? |
| 14:39:34 | preglow | indeed |
| 14:39:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Where at? |
| 14:39:42 | preglow | i didn't think about ipod users not having any files, no |
| 14:40:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | The iPod_Control folder is hidden, so they just see "Contacts" "Calender" and the other non-hidden folders. |
| 14:40:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which, if they enter are empty |
| 14:40:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | So the first question is always 'Why aren't there any options in the menus?" |
| 14:40:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | At least, for the totally clueless |
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| 14:41:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm really not against a virtual folder or anything. I'm just trying to explore alternatives before it's set in stone. |
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| 14:43:46 | PaulJam_ | doesn't rockbox already have such a virtual folder system? for the devices with a card slot and in the future for usb-otg. |
| 14:44:21 | linuxstb | Yes, but I agree with Paul_The_Nerd that that's different - the MMC card is a real disk with real files... |
| 14:46:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Although if the virtual folder is *only* visible while tagcache is initialized, then at least it'll only be there once users are unlikely to be confused by it. |
| 14:46:05 | PaulJam_ | but the tagcache entrys point to real files |
| 14:46:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not really an entrypoint to real files. In fact, at the moment the rules are fairly different while you're in TagCache since you can't insert the virtual folders into playlists, etc. |
| 14:47:03 | linuxstb | But I'm also not arguing against a virtual folder - I can't think of anything better. |
| 14:47:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Aye, that's about where I stand. :) |
| 14:49:40 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Have you thought about the possibility of specifying directories to include/exclude from tagcache? |
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| 15:00:36 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: The virtual directory will (1) be made quite obvios and (2) only present if tagcache is initialised |
| 15:01:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Fair then. :) |
| 15:01:41 | amiconn | (1) can be done by surrounding it by <> like the multi-volume virtual dirs. While < and > aren't strictly forbidden within a file system, they are disallowed by many OS'es because they usually mean redirection |
| 15:02:53 | B4gder | echo moo > '<moo>' |
| 15:02:55 | B4gder | :-) |
| 15:04:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 15:08:33 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 15:09:42 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data22/2006/6/6/96/SV3024434.JPG |
| 15:09:49 | Jungti1234 | iriver D20 inside |
| 15:10:14 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data21/2006/6/6/60/SV304435.JPG |
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| 15:10:32 | Jungti1234 | http://cafefiles.naver.net/data24/2006/6/6/16/SV304437.JPG |
| 15:11:41 | Dgently | none of those links work. |
| 15:11:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | They worked for me. |
| 15:11:57 | B4gder | for me too |
| 15:11:59 | Dgently | I get 404 errors on all of them |
| 15:12:16 | chendo | worked for me |
| 15:12:28 | Dgently | never mind, a reload fixed it. That was odd. |
| 15:12:32 | Dgently | Sorry |
| 15:14:04 | Jungti1234 | Does it see? |
| 15:14:20 | Jungti1234 | can see it? |
| 15:16:21 | Dgently | Yes, I can see it. Thanks for posting these. |
| 15:17:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Isn't the D20 a dictionary? |
| 15:17:27 | Slasheri | linuxstb: yes, i think there should be a way to exclude folders from both dircache and tagcache |
| 15:17:29 | Jungti1234 | D20 is dictionary. |
| 15:17:39 | Slasheri | but i am not sure how the ui part should be done for that |
| 15:17:55 | Slasheri | argh, *directories :) |
| 15:18:27 | B4gder | skip the ui and use a plain config file for that |
| 15:18:55 | linuxstb | I agree - at least to start with. Let someone else write the UI. |
| 15:19:03 | Slasheri | ok, that sounds good enough :) |
| 15:19:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just /.rockbox/exclude/dircache.ex and tagcache.ex or something |
| 15:19:13 | Jungti1234 | UI? |
| 15:19:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or full .cfg file support |
| 15:19:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | That could be okay too |
| 15:19:21 | Slasheri | Jungti1234: user interface |
| 15:19:27 | Jungti1234 | Isn't Rockbox's UI simple? |
| 15:19:32 | Jungti1234 | Slasheir: I know |
| 15:20:06 | Slasheri | Jungti1234: yes, but how one would implement selecting directories to be included/excluded from various databases |
| 15:20:44 | Rob2222 | Can it be, that the last sector of a HD is important? That 60GB drive seems to have a bad last sector. |
| 15:20:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | You *could* just make it a context menu choice. |
| 15:20:54 | Jungti1234 | difficult is to speak about Rockbox UI.... |
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| 15:20:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Click and hold on a folder, and choose "Exclude from TagCache" |
| 15:21:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | And it adds it to a nice little list hidden somewhere |
| 15:22:05 | Slasheri | Paul_The_Nerd: hmm, sounds good :) but i will do just the config file support first |
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| 15:22:20 | amiconn | Why should I want to exclude dirs from the caches (if I use them)? |
| 15:22:59 | linuxstb | When SID support is added, I don't want the 32,000 file HVSC collection in tagcache. |
| 15:23:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: Audiobooks/Podcasts not showing up in "All Music" lists when attempting to shuffle everything you've got by way of TagCache |
| 15:23:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, HVSC in TagCache is painful |
| 15:24:32 | linuxstb | Another example is that I also have my main music collection nicely tagged, but also a collection of live bootlegs which are not. I would prefer to browse the bootlegs via the file browser, and the studio music via tagcache. I'm sure others have got directories of untagged music they would like to exclude. |
| 15:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Recordings. |
| 15:26:59 | ryran | definitely agree on that point |
| 15:32:23 | amiconn | Ah, hmm. |
| 15:32:50 | amiconn | That makes sense for tagcache then (I don't have any audiobooks or podcasts) |
| 15:33:33 | amiconn | But why exclude dirs from dircache? Sounds like adding a lot of complexity for little benefit |
| 15:34:21 | amiconn | (dirs excluded from dircache then need to be accessed the conventional way - and the system has to keep track of these differences) |
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| 15:35:17 | amiconn | Note that my view is that of a non-dirchache user |
| 15:36:20 | * | amiconn observes that the more he deals with the newer units, he more and more prefers using the archoses |
| 15:36:23 | * | Paul_The_Nerd sees no reason to exclude dirs from dircache either. |
| 15:36:40 | Hansmaulwurf | does dircache saves all dirs or only the ones with music in? |
| 15:36:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | All dirs |
| 15:36:51 | Hansmaulwurf | hm |
| 15:37:42 | B4gder | iow, dircache is a true cache |
| 15:37:59 | B4gder | caching directory contents |
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| 15:38:31 | Hansmaulwurf | well I have a dir with 4GB for my university work, with a lot of sub-dirs, I dont need this Dirs in tagcache |
| 15:39:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | TagCache is different than DirCache entirely |
| 15:39:25 | Hansmaulwurf | erm |
| 15:39:25 | Hansmaulwurf | sorry |
| 15:39:32 | Hansmaulwurf | i mean dircache |
| 15:40:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | I suppose it'll keep the dircache itself slightly smaller. |
| 15:41:07 | B4gder | but add complexity to the code I guess |
| 15:41:17 | B4gder | since it'll be a mixed situation |
| 15:41:34 | * | B4gder is guessing |
| 15:42:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Probably, yes |
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| 15:45:37 | Dgently | On a somewhat related note, I have an Archos FMR with an 80gig drive in it. I tried initializing dircache once. It ran for a good long while (20-40min, I'm not exactly sure) and then locked up. No big deal, just thought you might want to know. |
| 15:45:49 | Dgently | I figured I had too much crap on the drive for it. |
| 15:46:44 | Dgently | excluding dirs would've been handy for me, I have a .progs dir full of data that wouldn't need to be cached. |
| 15:46:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dircache is kinda a bad idea on the Archoses anyway isn't it? |
| 15:46:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | They have fairly limited ram already |
| 15:47:08 | Dgently | I didn't think it had enough memory to be useful, but I thought I'd play with it a bit. |
| 15:47:11 | amiconn | Dircache isn't built into the archos builds |
| 15:47:19 | Dgently | hmmmm. |
| 15:47:31 | Dgently | I ran some kind of cache initialization. |
| 15:47:33 | amiconn | Tagcache is a different thing, and is available on archos |
| 15:47:38 | Dgently | thought it was dircache. |
| 15:47:46 | Dgently | Oh! my bad then, sorry. |
| 15:47:56 | Dgently | Ok, so tagcache ran for ... <g> |
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| 15:53:09 | ryran | (back-reading) for those that use their players as portable hds with lots of non-music, I think it would be dope-a-licious to be able to exclude stuff from dircache |
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| 15:53:45 | ryran | or perhaps to have an option for it to scan directories for music files and only cache those... |
| 15:53:54 | Hansmaulwurf | that would be great |
| 15:54:13 | B4gder | why? |
| 15:54:17 | ryran | but that could still take a lot of time when you could instead just exclude.. |
| 15:54:19 | B4gder | dircache is not for music only |
| 15:54:33 | B4gder | it would make no sense at all |
| 15:54:33 | ryran | right, but ... |
| 15:54:45 | Hansmaulwurf | maybe only for "supported" files |
| 15:54:47 | ryran | most people only use their players for music |
| 15:54:47 | B4gder | imagine a single dir with both music and non-music |
| 15:54:59 | B4gder | so? |
| 15:55:07 | B4gder | why would they bother to exclude anything then? |
| 15:55:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Even "supported only" causes a problem when you have various extensions for files that you could load in the text editor, or whatnot |
| 15:55:24 | ryran | heh |
| 15:55:51 | B4gder | I think you're crying out for something you can't really motivate why we should offer |
| 15:56:18 | ryran | lol.. I just stepped in here. :D I don't really care. |
| 15:56:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think TagCache needs exclusions, DirCache doesn't really |
| 15:56:45 | B4gder | amen |
| 15:56:59 | ryran | I can understand that |
| 15:57:04 | ryran | sounds good :) |
| 15:57:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, there's a small case for them, but it's _very_ small. :) |
| 15:57:39 | ryran | what I'd be curious to know is how much ram it actually takes to store file listings in a cache |
| 15:57:45 | ryran | I really have absolutely no idea |
| 15:57:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can check that in the debug menu |
| 15:57:51 | ryran | ooooooooooo |
| 15:58:20 | ryran | sweeeetbajeebus! |
| 15:58:22 | ryran | cool |
| 15:59:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 15:59:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Debug menu is useful stuff. ;) |
| 15:59:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Now, I must go |
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| 15:59:17 | Bg3r | B4gder the reasons in my eyes are that if you have some folders with a lots of small files (like pictures etc, programs, documents, code etc etc) and they are included in the dircache, then 1) they will took not so little RAM for the cache 2) the startup time will be worse |
| 15:59:30 | Jungti1234 | :'( |
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| 16:00:35 | ryran | question: how is dircache limit determined? by platform or by available ram? |
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| 16:01:37 | Bg3r | ryran first time you boot the player with dircache enabled, rb does a blocking scan of the disk |
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| 16:01:49 | Bg3r | and allocates as much memory as it needs |
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| 16:02:00 | Jungti1234 | aHH |
| 16:02:07 | Bg3r | + 64kb for new files |
| 16:02:12 | apo | Moin |
| 16:02:17 | Jungti1234 | I knew TagCache now!! |
| 16:02:28 | Bg3r | that's from mp3 buffer |
| 16:02:38 | ryran | uhmmm |
| 16:02:39 | Jungti1234 | It wasn't easy..... :) |
| 16:02:54 | Bg3r | so the dircache size depends entirely on your directory structure and the count of the files on your player |
| 16:03:08 | ryran | thanks Bg3r, but I actually meant the *limit* |
| 16:03:17 | Bg3r | hm |
| 16:03:26 | ryran | it says my limit is 6mb |
| 16:03:48 | ryran | whereas I'm only using 282,244b |
| 16:04:32 | ryran | I was curious if that was an limit determined by the ram.. or if it's an absolute specified in source per each platform |
| 16:04:46 | ryran | (I'm thinking about ipod 64mb vs 32mb ram here) |
| 16:05:09 | Jungti1234 | hehehe |
| 16:05:13 | Jungti1234 | I don't need all file. |
| 16:05:59 | Bg3r | ./include/dircache.h:#define DIRCACHE_LIMIT (1024*1024*6) |
| 16:06:14 | Bg3r | it's hardcoded in firmware/include/dircache.h |
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| 16:06:26 | ryran | haha you're the man |
| 16:06:38 | Bg3r | find & grep are the men :P |
| 16:06:46 | ryran | I was wondering :D |
| 16:06:53 | B4gder | Good men they are |
| 16:07:02 | Bg3r | yep |
| 16:07:11 | Bg3r | ryran but 6MB is _a_lot_ of files ... |
| 16:07:39 | Bg3r | maybe 10 000 are ~ 800k |
| 16:07:55 | ryran | yeah.. I can see that.. given that I'm only using uhhh a quarter of a meg |
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| 16:08:20 | ryran | so all targets have at least 6mb of ram? |
| 16:08:34 | ryran | ohhhhhhhhhhhhh wait wait I know |
| 16:08:35 | B4gder | no |
| 16:08:42 | ryran | some targets just don't include the dircache code |
| 16:08:50 | B4gder | correctomente |
| 16:09:23 | ryran | hmm. I'm absolutely loving dircache−−on a hd-based player, I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want to use it. |
| 16:09:35 | B4gder | I don't |
| 16:09:39 | ryran | whoa |
| 16:09:41 | ryran | why? |
| 16:10:05 | B4gder | because 99.95% of my time, rockbox plays a playlist |
| 16:10:54 | B4gder | power on, resume play, listen, power down |
| 16:11:02 | B4gder | goto 10 |
| 16:11:07 | Bg3r | LOL |
| 16:11:07 | ryran | but.. what am I missing here.... if dircache only uses a mb or so of ram for most people..... how could freeing that up for playbuffer help any? that's like.. miniscule |
| 16:11:09 | ryran | lol |
| 16:11:30 | B4gder | I just don't see any point in enabling it |
| 16:11:30 | Bg3r | ryran |
| 16:11:37 | ryran | yes? |
| 16:11:57 | Bg3r | the reason imho is more the point 2) of the things i said some minutes ago |
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| 16:12:10 | B4gder | yeps |
| 16:12:12 | Bg3r | that is, lesser scan |
| 16:12:16 | Bg3r | time |
| 16:12:24 | Bg3r | also |
| 16:12:42 | Bg3r | you can easily have thousand of files with sizes, comparable with 50 - 100kbytes |
| 16:12:59 | ryran | ah |
| 16:13:21 | Bg3r | (for example, i have many funny pics on my h340) |
| 16:13:48 | * | Bg3r goes to run the stats plugin |
| 16:14:28 | ryran | I don't know about the average person, but if I used my player more as a portable hard drive, it would be organized into folders. point being, that I would keep stuff like that seperate−−all the more reason to have the dircache exclusion option. *g* |
| 16:14:42 | Bg3r | ryran exactly |
| 16:14:56 | Bg3r | i have a D folder in the root (D stands for Data) |
| 16:15:00 | Bg3r | okay |
| 16:15:01 | Bg3r | i have |
| 16:15:05 | Bg3r | 1024 dirs |
| 16:15:13 | Bg3r | 4974 music files |
| 16:15:24 | Bg3r | and total 11251 files |
| 16:15:35 | ryran | whew |
| 16:16:03 | Bg3r | and if i had the opportunity to exclude the D folder ... |
| 16:20:54 | Hansmaulwurf | (16:13:21) (Bg3r) (for example, i have many funny pics on my h340) <−−- funny pics, I understand ;) |
| 16:21:16 | Jungti1234 | bye |
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| 16:21:28 | apo | Hansmaulwurf: Yeah, they make happy :P |
| 16:22:51 | Dgently | Sorry to butt in, but would anyone know where some hi-res pics of the FMR motherboard might be? I've poked in the wiki, tried the external links (btw,Matthias Wächter's site is gone - and he was my best hope), and can't find what I need. |
| 16:23:00 | Bg3r | hahaha |
| 16:23:18 | Bg3r | i can't get it why everyone thinks funny pics = porn ... |
| 16:23:29 | B4gder | haha |
| 16:24:31 | Hansmaulwurf | I didnt say "porn" but you did! |
| 16:24:41 | Hansmaulwurf | :P |
| 16:24:44 | Bg3r | oh, okay |
| 16:28:54 | Bg3r | Hansmaulwurf stuff like this : http://www.cs.technion.ac.il/~joni/comp-tech.jpg is what i call funny pics |
| 16:28:55 | Bg3r | :P |
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| 16:31:06 | Bg3r | and this http://www.anvari.org/shortjoke/EmailJoke_Set_4/2449.html :D |
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| 16:37:15 | ryran | haha... you're funny |
| 16:37:26 | ryran | er, I mean *that's* funny ;P |
| 16:38:18 | Bg3r | :P |
| 16:38:39 | Bg3r | yeah, the last one isn't pic, but i have it as .jpg |
| 16:38:44 | ryran | hahaha (just read the second one) |
| 16:39:58 | ryran | http://www.flickr.com/photos/ryran/151315044/ <−− another example of a funny pic |
| 16:40:40 | B4gder | http://despair.com/consulting.html |
| 16:41:13 | ryran | lol |
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| 16:41:41 | B4gder | despair.com is da place for good posters |
| 16:41:45 | B4gder | for your office |
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| 16:51:06 | ryran | (just spent all that time reading posters) I'm kinda torn about those. |
| 16:51:18 | ryran | yeah, many of them are funny, but.... |
| 16:51:43 | ryran | in the end, I don't think that they'd pring a positive net effect to anyone's life |
| 16:51:55 | B4gder | you don't? |
| 16:51:56 | B4gder | haha |
| 16:52:10 | B4gder | that's why they're called demotivators |
| 16:53:28 | ryran | right.. well I kinda thought the point was that they're funny |
| 16:54:18 | ryran | except that I think many of them actually really will live up to their name and bring people down, which−−well, I can't imagine why anyone would really want that |
| 16:54:34 | B4gder | I just love them |
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| 16:56:12 | Hansmaulwurf | some of them are great for meeting-rooms |
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| 18:04:59 | amiconn | hardeep: How is building tagcache externally supposed to work? |
| 18:05:09 | amiconn | Specifically, how does it deal with endianess? |
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| 18:20:34 | hardeep | amiconn: i've added a "littleendian" argument |
| 18:20:45 | hardeep | amiconn: default works with iRiver |
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| 18:21:48 | amiconn | Does it also handle differing alignment requirements per target? Or does the tagcache code align for all targets now? |
| 18:22:03 | hardeep | i've set it up to always align |
| 18:22:10 | amiconn | ok |
| 18:22:10 | hardeep | i think tagcache does the same |
| 18:22:39 | amiconn | What about supporting other music formats? Is that going to be difficult? |
| 18:23:09 | hardeep | probably not too hard, will just need to port our parsing code to perl |
| 18:23:34 | amiconn | Hmm, or perhaps make the offline tagcache builder a program? |
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| 18:23:42 | amiconn | It would remove the need to install perl |
| 18:23:57 | hardeep | yeah, that's a possibility too |
| 18:23:58 | amiconn | ...where it's not installed by default, i.e. windows |
| 18:24:21 | hardeep | perl just makes it easy to manipulate strings =) |
| 18:24:45 | amiconn | Hmm, in fact someone already started a tagdb builder in C |
| 18:24:46 | linuxstb_ | But doesn't Rockbox already contain all the necessary C code? |
| 18:24:59 | amiconn | (probably the old format, not tagcache) |
| 18:25:04 | amiconn | Chech apps/tagdb/ |
| 18:25:07 | amiconn | *Check |
| 18:25:08 | hardeep | i've seen a java version, not c |
| 18:25:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: Almost. The offline tool needs to handle endianess |
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| 18:27:57 | hardeep | oops |
| 18:37:21 | hardeep | hmmm, this tagdb implementation looks more complex than it needs to be |
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| 18:38:25 | hardeep | although that may be due to the old tagdb structure... tagcache is nice and simple |
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| 19:12:12 | ryran | woot |
| 19:13:25 | ryran | questionay for anyone: how come battery capacity is configurable in system settings in rockbox? is it set to a certain default for each target? |
| 19:18:23 | linuxstb | For most targets, users can change the factory batteries for ones with a higher capacity. |
| 19:20:44 | ryran | but there's not just a global default, right? as in, the source specifies the proper defaults for different targets? what happens if you change the setting... with the normal batteries? |
| 19:22:16 | linuxstb | Yes, the source specifies different sets of values for different targets. But I think it's only used to display a runtime estimation, nothing else. |
| 19:22:49 | linuxstb | Also, it's not implemented fully for all targets - the ipods for example. |
| 19:24:04 | ryran | "only to display runtime estimation" −− ohhhh okay. that's what I was wondering about. |
| 19:25:57 | linuxstb | So basically, it's not important. |
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| 19:27:56 | ryran | yeah.. I just now noticed that you could actually change it and that got me wondering what it actually did (I'd always assumed it was just something that should've been in debug) |
| 19:28:10 | ryran | cool. thanks linuxstb |
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| 19:45:09 | redondos | Hello. Is there some way to have the lyrics of the songs available in rockbox? |
| 19:45:26 | redondos | Preferrably something more automated than having a bunch of textfiles. |
| 19:46:52 | Hansmaulwurf | H300 user here? |
| 19:48:36 | Hansmaulwurf | no one? |
| 19:49:14 | Hansmaulwurf | damn |
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| 19:49:46 | linuxstb | redondos: The official Rockbox version doesn't have any lyrics support, but someone has developed a plugin for lyrics - there's a long thread about it in the forums. |
| 19:51:57 | redondos | linuxstb: Thank you. |
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| 19:57:44 | obo | PaulJam: do you use the same nick on MisticRiver? |
| 19:57:53 | PaulJam | yes |
| 19:58:33 | obo | any chance you could send me one of the files that caused problems with the scrobbler patch? |
| 19:59:10 | PaulJam | yes |
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| 20:03:41 | redondos | Has any of you used sncviewer? |
| 20:05:13 | PaulJam | obo: how should i send it to you? email? |
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| 20:13:09 | obo | PaulJam: did you get my pm? |
| 20:13:43 | PaulJam | yes, i just saw it, im sending the mail soon. |
| 20:13:57 | obo | thanks |
| 20:16:27 | PaulJam | mail is sent. |
| 20:17:44 | obo | okay, it's arrived - I'll see what I can do :) |
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| 20:38:12 | Rob2222 | Does anybody know a hard disc surface test tool that runs under windows? |
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| 20:39:18 | merbanan | Rob2222: scandisk |
| 20:41:55 | bluebrother | Rob2222, chkdsk /f in a cmd window is also helpful in some cases. |
| 20:46:07 | ryran | Rob2222: spinrite http://www.grc.com/sr/spinrite.htm |
| 20:47:37 | ryran | (there's no free demo though) |
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| 20:55:34 | ender` | Rob2222: if you suspect you have bad sectors, it's by far the best to get disk test from your manufacturer, since it can relocate bad sectors |
| 20:55:39 | Rob2222 | thx, but scandisc and chkdsk wont work cause i cant format thr drive |
| 20:56:28 | ender` | Rob2222: what disk do you have? |
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| 21:00:39 | Rob2222 | 60gb toshiba |
| 21:00:43 | Rob2222 | in iriver H340 |
| 21:00:59 | Rob2222 | toshiba has no test util |
| 21:01:19 | ender` | uhh, that's a problem |
| 21:02:32 | Rob2222 | Even more that most dos tools have problems to recognize the USB drives. |
| 21:02:47 | ender` | got any linux box? |
| 21:04:43 | bluebrother | I think the drive fitness test of Hitachi should work as well. At least for testing. |
| 21:05:55 | Rob2222 | have suse 10 on laptop ... but .. nor yet learned how to work with it |
| 21:06:51 | ender` | bluebrother: it will report problems, but doesn't allow low-level format or bad sector reallocation |
| 21:08:37 | bluebrother | I know it doesn't do everything, but maybe this is already helpful |
| 21:08:38 | ender` | Rob2222: boot to SuSE and connect your H340 |
| 21:08:50 | bluebrother | for a linux box: try knoppix :) |
| 21:09:49 | ender` | after you do that, open console and type dmesg, it should tell you if it recognised the HDD |
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| 21:12:54 | Rob2222 | ok ender |
| 21:13:16 | ender` | (or actually, open the console before you connect the player) |
| 21:13:26 | ender` | (but type dmesg after you do it) |
| 21:14:36 | ender` | also, have both the player and laptop connected to mains, since this procedure will take a while |
| 21:16:10 | Rob2222 | hmm, my suse seems not to boot, give me a second |
| 21:17:10 | ender` | no problem |
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| 21:20:38 | Rob2222 | do you think suse 10 will recognize a adaptec usb 2.0 pcmcia controller? |
| 21:21:01 | Nibbler | just try it |
| 21:21:21 | Nibbler | if dmesg tells you just nothing it was not detected by linux ;-) |
| 21:21:56 | Rob2222 | dmesg says damn much |
| 21:22:07 | Nibbler | just read the last 10 linux |
| 21:22:28 | Nibbler | if its anyhthing about usb, sda, or harddisk |
| 21:22:33 | Nibbler | rofl |
| 21:22:40 | Nibbler | just read the last 10 LINES! |
| 21:22:45 | Rob2222 | lol |
| 21:22:46 | Rob2222 | :) |
| 21:23:03 | Rob2222 | i insart the adaptec card now |
| 21:23:15 | Rob2222 | 60gb hd scan isnt fun witn usb 1.1 i think |
| 21:23:21 | Nibbler | hehe nope |
| 21:23:38 | Rob2222 | what do i have to do after inserting the pcmcia? |
| 21:23:45 | Nibbler | do dmesg again |
| 21:23:53 | Nibbler | and see if there are any new lines now |
| 21:23:53 | Rob2222 | ah |
| 21:23:57 | Rob2222 | usb hub found |
| 21:24:00 | Rob2222 | nice |
| 21:24:03 | Nibbler | ... :) |
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| 21:24:04 | Rob2222 | plug & play |
| 21:24:09 | Rob2222 | now the player? |
| 21:24:13 | Nibbler | jep |
| 21:24:14 | ender` | yes |
| 21:24:50 | Nibbler | and in dmesg look for the device name that got assigned (should be sda, could be sdb, sdc etc) |
| 21:25:06 | Rob2222 | sdb |
| 21:25:33 | Rob2222 | yes, its sdb |
| 21:25:50 | Nibbler | ok, so your device is /dev/sdb |
| 21:25:50 | Rob2222 | as scsi device. mk6006gah |
| 21:25:55 | Rob2222 | ok |
| 21:25:56 | ender` | ok, now run this: badblocks -n /dev/sdb |
| 21:26:18 | ender` | if you're lucky, this'll cause the disk to relocate the bad sectors |
| 21:26:54 | ender` | (and you should be able to reformat the disk afterwards) |
| 21:26:55 | Rob2222 | command not found ;) |
| 21:27:04 | ender` | hm |
| 21:27:04 | Rob2222 | i have to install, right? |
| 21:27:08 | ender` | install e2fsprogs |
| 21:27:15 | ender` | (it's part of them) |
| 21:27:30 | ender` | (at least on gentoo, but i'd imagine it's the same on suse) |
| 21:28:53 | Nibbler | Rob2222: are you logged in as "root"? |
| 21:29:15 | Rob2222 | good question *duck* |
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| 21:29:28 | Nibbler | cause its most likely in /sbin or the like, and you need root access anyways for direct harddisk access :) |
| 21:29:36 | ender` | oh, forgot to mention that |
| 21:29:57 | Rob2222 | according YAST it is installed. |
| 21:30:11 | Nibbler | you need to be root to find it in your path... |
| 21:30:19 | ender` | just log in as root (or, in console, type su -) |
| 21:30:57 | Rob2222 | ok works |
| 21:31:32 | ender` | now just wait and hope |
| 21:31:39 | * | Nibbler crosses fingers :) |
| 21:31:44 | * | ender` wishes somebody ported smartmontools to rockbox :) |
| 21:31:52 | Rob2222 | does it gives me information, when a block has errors? |
| 21:32:16 | Nibbler | you should use -v for that maybe |
| 21:32:21 | ender` | yes |
| 21:33:17 | Rob2222 | ok, "badblocks -c -n /dev/sdb" is now running |
| 21:33:33 | ender` | you mean -v -n ? |
| 21:33:39 | Rob2222 | -c+v i mean |
| 21:33:45 | Rob2222 | -v -n |
| 21:35:31 | Rob2222 | well, i am positive surprised of the P&P of suse :) |
| 21:36:09 | ender` | P&P? |
| 21:36:36 | Nibbler | Rob2222: its linux, not suse |
| 21:37:00 | Nibbler | ...in this case |
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| 21:38:38 | dionoea | hello |
| 21:40:03 | Nibbler | hello dionoea |
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| 21:46:59 | Rob2222 | plug&play |
| 21:47:29 | Rob2222 | i just installed it for testing and leraning |
| 21:47:44 | Rob2222 | but didtn got the orinoco mini-pci to work with wpa |
| 21:47:50 | Nibbler | fine, now you had a good use for it at least :) |
| 21:47:56 | Rob2222 | yes |
| 21:48:29 | Nibbler | no idea about wireless, but keep hearing you have to be selective when buying wlan for linux |
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| 21:53:20 | Rob2222 | what is the output of badblocks? the block numbers? |
| 21:53:33 | Rob2222 | == sectors? |
| 21:54:25 | Rob2222 | atm its by 860000 |
| 21:54:51 | Rob2222 | according to the hex editor the disc has ca 117 million sectors |
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| 22:06:10 | Nibbler | Rob2222: thats the part about having it connected to the powerplug :-) |
| 22:08:59 | Rob2222 | hehe ok |
| 22:09:08 | Rob2222 | when thats the sectors |
| 22:09:13 | Rob2222 | i let run it over night |
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| 23:39:48 | obo | PaulJam: I've just updated the patch - thanks again for the example file |
| 23:40:06 | Febs | I swear that Rockbox reversed the channels on my music. A restart corrected it. Is this technically possible? |
| 23:40:53 | PaulJam | obo: good, thanks. |
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| 23:42:00 | Ribs | Febs: on the ipod, probably |
| 23:42:07 | Ribs | the ipod port isn't very mature right now |
| 23:42:30 | Bagder | Febs: it sounds unlikely... |
| 23:43:42 | Febs | Bagder: I thought so too when I noticed it once a few weeks ago. But it seems to have happened again today. |
| 23:44:07 | Febs | Either that or I am imagining things and I need a vacation. |
| 23:47:02 | Febs | Huh. My company's web filter blocks "emusic.com," but not "http://www.emusic.com" |
| 23:47:18 | * | Febs is really beginning to think that vacation is not such a bad idea. |
| 23:47:42 | Ribs | lol |
| 23:47:42 | idnar | our school's web filter blocked ".exe" |
| 23:47:49 | idnar | but, like, anywhere in the URL |
| 23:47:54 | idnar | so http://www.exercise.com/ was blocked |
| 23:47:57 | Ribs | lol |
| 23:48:00 | Ribs | lame |
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| 23:54:12 | jimmy13632 | hey is there any development for the san disk e200 series? |
| 23:54:21 | Bagder | no |
| 23:54:30 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html |
| 23:55:09 | XavierGr | Bagder: any chance Sansa will help you out |
| 23:55:12 | jimmy13632 | is there going to be any development, or has anyone started to test and create software? |
| 23:55:29 | XavierGr | From their point all they did was to donate some devices |
| 23:55:30 | Bagder | jimmy13632: did you read the page? |
| 23:55:40 | XavierGr | I expect more from a company |
| 23:56:14 | XavierGr | I mean SanDisk |
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| 23:56:59 | Bagder | XavierGr: I'm trying to get more help from them but it seems hard |
| 23:57:13 | jimmy13632 | okay, so there is development starting they just need more help |
| 23:57:28 | jimmy13632 | to get the ball rolling |
| 23:57:32 | Bagder | "development" is not the right word here |
| 23:57:39 | jimmy13632 | testing? |
| 23:57:47 | Bagder | but there's an effort going on to attempt to figure out the file formats |
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