| 00:00:34 | amiconn | ...hardware induced, that is. The original recorder v1 firmware has a bug that causes background noise during playback. |
| 00:01:16 | Genre9mp3 | sounds great! |
| 00:01:31 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: Of course that includes all SH1+MAS-based archoses |
| 00:01:46 | amiconn | I have no idea how the newer units sound (gmini, AV etc) |
| 00:02:57 | Genre9mp3 | Well, not that I plan to buy a new Archos model ;) |
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| 00:07:11 | sharpe | well, somehow ended up where i started, but it's all good. |
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| 00:31:11 | Bagder | http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/ia/ia/pro_ia_detail.php?UID=630 |
| 00:31:15 | Bagder | nother PP one |
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| 00:31:40 | Bagder | but now sleep |
| 00:32:47 | petur | oh... that one has line-n |
| 00:34:40 | amiconn | Bagder: A bit longer this time? ;) |
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| 00:36:16 | amiconn | 00.21.10 # <Bagder> but now, sleep(3600*6); <== 3 min 36 sec |
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| 00:58:59 | jack|ass | Is the iAudio X5 port of Rockbox usable? Last entry on the webpage just says "Sound!" :) |
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| 01:00:24 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it's very usable afaik. |
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| 01:00:47 | jack|ass | cool, may have to give it a go then. |
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| 03:25:22 | witten | is the iaudio x5 port mature enough for non-developer use yet? |
| 03:26:54 | TeaSea | I've been using it for quite a while and i'm not a developer. |
| 03:27:23 | witten | awesome |
| 03:27:34 | witten | I had no idea there was a port until today |
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| 03:52:53 | witten | well, it just crashed twice on my, so I guess I'm going back to the official iaudio firmware for now |
| 03:52:58 | witten | s/my/me/ |
| 03:58:32 | merbanan | hmm only around 11698848347101 years to bruteforce the crypto |
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| 05:05:55 | fire | I have a quick question about Rockbox and I have to leave in a few minutes (hence, why I didn't look it up). Is there anyone around that can try to answer it for me real quick? |
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| 05:08:38 | fire | Anyone? |
| 05:09:03 | Soap | if you must leave real soon, time would be better spent asking the question, rather than asking to ask. |
| 05:09:24 | fire | It's pointless to ask if there is noone here to answer it while I am here. |
| 05:09:49 | fire | But. . .Is it possible to use Rockbox with the iPL Bootloader? |
| 05:10:06 | Soap | you could always check the logs (updated continiously on the website) at a later time. |
| 05:10:34 | fire | I have yet to look into it that much. I just stumbled uppon Rockbox a few minutes ago. |
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| 05:12:41 | fire | But, now that you mention it and I have found the logs, I'll do that. Thanks |
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| 05:17:43 | webguest74 | hi |
| 05:18:16 | webguest74 | are there any other firmwares for the ipod besides apple, rockbox and ipod linux? |
| 05:18:47 | webguest74 | ??? |
| 05:19:19 | webguest74 | hello? |
| 05:20:02 | webguest74 | is any one there? |
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| 05:37:17 | scorche | fire: if you have found the logs, and look back in them....yes it is possible...as i am sure that you will have subsequent questions following that, just come back in and i (or someone else) can answer them for you |
| 05:37:58 | scorche | and on a sidenote...gotta love the patience of a certain "74" person above me =P |
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| 05:41:08 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:41:34 | midkay | some people.. so impatient. |
| 05:41:46 | scorche | indeed |
| 05:41:59 | scorche | he waited a whole 3 min! |
| 05:42:20 | midkay | good lord, no answer in 30 seconds! let me put some more question marks! another 30s have passed, nothing! HELLO? is anyone there?! nothing a minute later! insanity! let me just leave in a huff! /quit |
| 05:42:54 | scorche | lol |
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| 05:47:12 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 05:47:28 | scorche | "can i please ask a question"? |
| 05:47:34 | scorche | pleeeeaaase? |
| 05:47:38 | * | scorche coughs |
| 05:47:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | No. |
| 05:47:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Questions are forbidden. |
| 05:47:44 | scorche | =D |
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| 05:47:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | In fact, you've used up 2 of your 3 allotted question marks. |
| 05:47:58 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: i think we still need to lock that door |
| 05:48:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Surpassing your quota will result in banning. |
| 05:48:06 | scorche | ?? |
| 05:48:11 | * | Paul_The_Nerd glares. |
| 05:48:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I may not have powers, but I will look at you _angrily_ |
| 05:49:01 | * | scorche performs a wonderful redition of a mime being scared |
| 05:49:12 | scorche | rendition too |
| 05:49:37 | JdGordon | anyone know whats the deal with the remote screen patches and 3.0? there are about 3 more which noone seems to want to commit... |
| 05:50:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do they do? And do they do it well? |
| 05:50:20 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:51:35 | JdGordon | they do what they are supposed to.. and yes.. well they compile with no warnings :D |
| 05:52:18 | JdGordon | midkay: go commit them :D |
| 05:52:19 | midkay | well, we're certainly under no time pressure to commit them.. :P |
| 05:52:22 | midkay | *ducks* |
| 05:52:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | "Compiling with no warnings" isn't the same as "do things the way they should be done' |
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| 05:55:22 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: i was joking about that, ye they do it fine.. im just curios as to why 2/5 were commited and the other 3 wernt |
| 05:55:40 | JdGordon | but obviously it needs to wait till later in the day when more ppl are around.. |
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| 06:33:20 | midkay | HEY. cut that out, alright. |
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| 06:35:26 | sharpe | HEY! we don't need any more sass from you midkay. |
| 06:35:55 | * | scorche kicks sharpe in the shin |
| 06:35:58 | JdGordon | easy fellas.... |
| 06:36:08 | JdGordon | FIGHT FIGHT FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTEE |
| 06:36:19 | sharpe | fite? |
| 06:36:21 | scorche | unfortunately, since sharpe is a small one, i hit his stomach >_> |
| 06:36:21 | midkay | excuse me, son? |
| 06:36:42 | midkay | i know you di-int just tell me to shut up. |
| 06:36:52 | sharpe | what if i did? |
| 06:37:08 | midkay | uh-uh!! |
| 06:37:22 | sharpe | oh no you didn't. |
| 06:37:37 | midkay | oh yes i did, son! |
| 06:37:50 | sharpe | oh yeah, mom? |
| 06:38:05 | JdGordon | ok, help... im following http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_MYSQL_Database_Server to get mysql going.. anywho im up to mysqladmin -h root@local-machine-name -u root password your-new-password so i typemysqladmin -h root@localhost -u root password <my pass> and i get |
| 06:38:05 | JdGordon | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'root@localhost' failed |
| 06:38:05 | JdGordon | error: 'Unknown MySQL server host 'root@localhost' (1)' |
| 06:38:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK JdGordon |
| 06:38:06 | JdGordon | Check that mysqld is running on root@localhost and that the port is 3306. |
| 06:38:06 | JdGordon | You can check this by doing 'telnet root@localhost 3306' |
| 06:38:14 | sharpe | my god |
| 06:38:15 | midkay | oh yeah, sicko?! |
| 06:38:20 | JdGordon | mysql is definatyl running.. |
| 06:38:32 | sharpe | is it on the right port? |
| 06:38:43 | JdGordon | yup |
| 06:39:10 | sharpe | can you connect to it? |
| 06:39:47 | sharpe | oh. |
| 06:39:49 | sharpe | um... |
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| 06:39:58 | sharpe | instead of 'root@localhost' try just, 'localhost' |
| 06:40:21 | JdGordon | mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed |
| 06:40:22 | JdGordon | error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 06:40:32 | sharpe | some progress. |
| 06:40:52 | bam_ | just try typing mysql |
| 06:40:56 | midkay | i call this next piece "worthless progress" and it was written by sharpe. |
| 06:41:07 | sharpe | i hate you. |
| 06:41:08 | JdGordon | $ mysql |
| 06:41:08 | JdGordon | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'jonno'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| 06:41:08 | midkay | it goes something like this.. "can you connect to it? oh. um..." |
| 06:41:24 | bam_ | hmmm its running |
| 06:41:30 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:41:30 | * | scorche hugs midkay |
| 06:41:35 | bam_ | you got apache server running too? |
| 06:41:41 | JdGordon | yup |
| 06:42:01 | * | midkay hugs scorche |
| 06:42:05 | midkay | we shut him up!! |
| 06:42:05 | bam_ | just go get myphpadmin, and you can manage it thru that |
| 06:42:07 | midkay | *high five* |
| 06:42:13 | sharpe | meh. |
| 06:42:48 | bam_ | or install mysqladmin, its in the repo's |
| 06:44:11 | sharpe | it's funny... myphpadmin, mysqladmin, what's next... |
| 06:44:33 | bam_ | just some suggestions |
| 06:44:40 | scorche | i wish we had a mysharpeadmin...\ |
| 06:45:04 | sharpe | from that, i get "sharpe, my admin." |
| 06:45:31 | scorche | from that, i get "sharpe hasn't a clue" |
| 06:45:48 | JdGordon | ok, phpmyadmin works, so i guess it must be working fine... |
| 06:45:59 | bam_ | bingo |
| 06:46:44 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 06:46:54 | sharpe | a quail egg...? |
| 06:47:00 | midkay | a sharpe idiot...? |
| 06:47:02 | midkay | just kidding!!! |
| 06:47:06 | midkay | or was i. :DDDDDDDD |
| 06:47:11 | midkay | nah, i was. |
| 06:47:16 | midkay | OR MAYBE NOT! :DDDDDDD |
| 06:47:23 | scorche | hey now...he isnt bad for his age =) |
| 06:47:25 | sharpe | everyone hates me now... |
| 06:47:49 | sharpe | not really, that'd only be encompassing midkay and scorche. |
| 06:48:12 | scorche | but you are still younger than us... |
| 06:48:28 | sharpe | yes. congratulations. you have a memory. :) |
| 06:49:02 | midkay | sharpe, well. |
| 06:49:05 | midkay | i doubt that, scorche. |
| 06:49:08 | midkay | how old are you, sharpe?! |
| 06:49:16 | midkay | i thought you were like 18 or.. something. |
| 06:49:18 | scorche | young.. |
| 06:49:20 | sharpe | nope... |
| 06:49:21 | scorche | er... |
| 06:49:25 | midkay | 17? |
| 06:49:28 | sharpe | close. |
| 06:49:30 | scorche | arent youlike 15? |
| 06:49:33 | midkay | 16?! |
| 06:49:36 | sharpe | indeed. |
| 06:49:42 | midkay | what date? |
| 06:49:45 | sharpe | hmm? |
| 06:49:49 | midkay | birth date? |
| 06:49:54 | sharpe | ... |
| 06:50:05 | sharpe | what does that have to do with anything? |
| 06:50:14 | scorche | social security number as well? |
| 06:50:17 | midkay | to judge our age differences.. |
| 06:50:21 | midkay | does it matter? :E |
| 06:50:28 | sharpe | heheh |
| 06:50:36 | scorche | midkay: wait..how ols are you? |
| 06:50:44 | midkay | yes, i'll.. uh.. steal your identity with your BIRTH date.. yeeah... |
| 06:50:44 | midkay | :) |
| 06:50:46 | sharpe | twenty-so? |
| 06:50:53 | midkay | scorche, also 16.. |
| 06:51:00 | scorche | >_> |
| 06:51:22 | midkay | sharpe, birth date meaning month and day. |
| 06:51:34 | sharpe | month.. .AND day?! |
| 06:52:06 | * | scorche overestimated midkay's age... |
| 06:52:21 | midkay | sharpe, what, you're not giving it out? :( |
| 06:52:31 | * | sharpe overestimated also... |
| 06:52:35 | midkay | wtf. |
| 06:52:39 | midkay | i thought SHARPE at least knew that. |
| 06:52:48 | midkay | i overestimated your SMARTNESS and KNOWLEDGE, that's for sure. |
| 06:52:50 | sharpe | no, sharpe did not. |
| 06:53:04 | sharpe | at least i can spell parentheses. |
| 06:53:11 | sharpe | :-D |
| 06:53:13 | midkay | yet somehow all the mindless, worthless babbling makes sense now. |
| 06:53:42 | sharpe | ouch. that hurts. |
| 06:53:55 | midkay | let's make a rockbox teamspeak server. |
| 06:54:03 | midkay | we need one! |
| 06:54:21 | scorche | i have a ventrilo server we could use >_> |
| 06:54:27 | sharpe | where did that come from? |
| 06:54:28 | midkay | yeah!!!! |
| 06:54:39 | scorche | midkay: i dont wanna hear sharpe's high-pitched squeals though |
| 06:54:47 | midkay | the fact that i'm going to play dod:s and i'd like to remain talking. |
| 06:54:49 | midkay | :p |
| 06:55:04 | sharpe | scorche: yeah... funny... |
| 06:55:08 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:55:09 | * | scorche only has dod...not source |
| 06:55:19 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:55:21 | sharpe | it's open-source?! |
| 06:55:38 | scorche | ventrilo isnt |
| 06:55:43 | scorche | but team-speak... |
| 06:56:04 | scorche | midkay: i can challenge you to hl2 deathmatch! |
| 06:56:16 | sharpe | ... nevermind... |
| 06:56:33 | midkay | scorche, hellyes.. making a map for that actually. |
| 06:56:33 | midkay | :) |
| 06:56:41 | midkay | in a bit maybe? if you'll be available.. |
| 06:56:43 | scorche | do it and let me know |
| 06:56:46 | scorche | i will be |
| 06:56:50 | midkay | alright, cu all in a bit. |
| 06:56:55 | scorche | wait |
| 06:56:57 | sharpe | awww. |
| 06:58:09 | sharpe | fine, leave sharpe by himself. |
| 06:58:17 | scorche | well i am here >_> |
| 06:58:34 | sharpe | like i said, fine, leave sharpe by himself. |
| 06:59:55 | sharpe | not even a chuckle? :\ |
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| 07:00:03 | scorche | no. |
| 07:00:14 | sharpe | a, "tee-hee" ? |
| 07:00:24 | scorche | no. |
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| 07:01:38 | sharpe | raucous laugh? |
| 07:01:47 | scorche | no. |
| 07:02:08 | sharpe | indifferent glare? |
| 07:02:43 | scorche | no. |
| 07:02:53 | sharpe | why not? |
| 07:03:04 | scorche | no. |
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| 07:03:52 | sharpe | do you not like sharpe? |
| 07:04:07 | scorche | i luuuuurrrrrrrve sharpe! |
| 07:04:15 | sharpe | okay... |
| 07:05:04 | sharpe | i did not know midkay was that young. |
| 07:05:16 | scorche | i didnt either... |
| 07:05:26 | sharpe | it's weird. |
| 07:05:37 | scorche | but wait...arent you the "rockbox expert" =P |
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| 07:05:48 | sharpe | what about it? |
| 07:06:00 | scorche | you should know these things! |
| 07:06:18 | sharpe | "rockbox expert" not "rockbox developer life expert"... |
| 07:06:36 | scorche | at least you have a tag >_> |
| 07:06:39 | scorche | hmph! |
| 07:06:53 | sharpe | i'm sorry. |
| 07:07:22 | scorche | are not |
| 07:07:31 | sharpe | are too |
| 07:08:30 | scorche | are not |
| 07:09:07 | sharpe | nuh uh. |
| 07:09:19 | scorche | yeah huh |
| 07:09:50 | sharpe | since when do you have a golf postgame show? :\ |
| 07:09:59 | sharpe | yes huh. |
| 07:10:01 | scorche | eh? |
| 07:10:23 | sharpe | apparently there is a golf postgame show on at three thirty.. |
| 07:10:26 | scorche | nuh uh |
| 07:10:39 | sharpe | hahahah. |
| 07:11:04 | sharpe | okay. you win. |
| 07:11:12 | scorche | cool |
| 07:11:14 | * | scorche giggles |
| 07:11:35 | sharpe | yeah, but think about that. |
| 07:11:46 | sharpe | "yeah huh" "yes huh." "nuh uh" |
| 07:11:53 | scorche | sharpe: you honestly didnt think i noticed? |
| 07:12:03 | sharpe | yes, actually i did. :D |
| 07:12:04 | scorche | i am not an idiot |
| 07:12:23 | sharpe | i didn't plan it... |
| 07:12:29 | scorche | i like to play along with what people think... |
| 07:12:34 | scorche | gives me insight |
| 07:12:41 | scorche | and can be quite amusing sometimes |
| 07:12:46 | sharpe | indeed |
| 07:15:06 | sharpe | well, firefox regularly takes up 110mb of ram now... |
| 07:16:01 | scorche | i have a habit of opening a lot of tabs, so yeah... |
| 07:16:10 | scorche | i go crazy when i am forced to use IE |
| 07:16:43 | sharpe | multiple windows? |
| 07:16:58 | sharpe | or crazy as in, "Arr! i hate IE!!" |
| 07:17:16 | scorche | both |
| 07:17:17 | Galois | IE7 beta3 is actually, like, good |
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| 07:18:03 | sharpe | i've tried the first two betas... |
| 07:18:09 | sharpe | like the first one, however not the second. |
| 07:20:45 | sharpe | anyone try the vista beta? :\ |
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| 07:22:55 | sharpe | well; i'll take that as a no... |
| 07:31:35 | sharpe | a pretty definite no... |
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| 07:58:36 | midkay | i did, sharpie! |
| 07:58:57 | sharpe | how is it? |
| 07:59:38 | midkay | beta 2 is latest, right?.. similar to before.. :) |
| 07:59:58 | sharpe | heh |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:03 | sharpe | what were your impressions? |
| 08:00:04 | midkay | yeah, heh.. |
| 08:00:18 | midkay | liked it as before.. ran stabler and quicker, a bit.. |
| 08:01:01 | sharpe | ah |
| 08:01:10 | scorche | well....microsoft finally delivered their promises with it |
| 08:01:20 | scorche | om....their promises 10 years ago that it |
| 08:01:21 | sharpe | i haven't bothered downloading it as i'd prefer a cd... |
| 08:01:35 | sharpe | but i don't want to pay 5$ for shipping. or was it six? |
| 08:01:38 | midkay | you mean you can't BURN a dvd! |
| 08:01:48 | midkay | well, good news, you can mount it via daemon tools and it'll work fine. |
| 08:01:50 | sharpe | yeah, i can, i just would rather the dvd |
| 08:02:08 | midkay | no burning necessary.. |
| 08:02:08 | sharpe | er, an offically made disc, if you know what i mean |
| 08:02:15 | midkay | .. alright.. |
| 08:02:24 | sharpe | yeh... |
| 08:03:34 | sharpe | i just like having discs with proper casing or images on it, whatever. |
| 08:04:00 | midkay | pathetic indeed. |
| 08:04:23 | midkay | sharpe: let's know your birth month and date. i'm curious ffs. |
| 08:04:23 | sharpe | aesthetically pleasing. |
| 08:04:31 | sharpe | hah, october eleventh. |
| 08:04:44 | midkay | so you're rather close to 17, right?! |
| 08:05:01 | sharpe | gee... |
| 08:05:08 | midkay | ha. |
| 08:05:09 | scorche | please dont tell me that sharpe is older than midkay |
| 08:05:25 | sharpe | oh wait wait wait. |
| 08:05:27 | elljay | one you are i the menu how to you get to the filebroser? |
| 08:05:28 | midkay | i still claim "youngest on the rockbox credits list".. not that sharpe is, but still. |
| 08:05:30 | midkay | he almost was. |
| 08:05:36 | sharpe | when i said "aye" |
| 08:05:43 | midkay | with his awful-ass WPZ plugin. |
| 08:05:45 | sharpe | i meant to scorche's. not midkays. |
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| 08:05:51 | sharpe | midkay: oh kiss my ass. |
| 08:05:53 | sharpe | :) |
| 08:05:57 | midkay | :o |
| 08:06:00 | midkay | no i will not!! |
| 08:06:12 | midkay | elljay, uh, the same menu key, or LEFT takes you back up and out.. |
| 08:06:13 | sharpe | metaphorical sense. |
| 08:06:33 | sharpe | still midkay, you don't seem that young. |
| 08:06:33 | elljay | i kept hitting menu and it didnt do anything |
| 08:06:37 | elljay | then all of a sudden it did |
| 08:06:37 | elljay | odd |
| 08:06:52 | midkay | stop your blathering, sharpie. |
| 08:06:59 | scorche | that reminds me... |
| 08:07:01 | midkay | odd indeed.. |
| 08:07:12 | sharpe | it's funny how people say, things never work, but when we suggest the same thing they've been doing, it works... |
| 08:07:13 | midkay | sharpe, and "spinv".. pah. |
| 08:07:15 | scorche | i need to do some actual work on rockbox one of these days |
| 08:07:31 | midkay | what a poor name chosen by a poor, young, lost little boy. |
| 08:07:33 | sharpe | scorche: maybe you can get that 'expert' tag. |
| 08:07:35 | midkay | :D |
| 08:07:40 | scorche | ... |
| 08:07:51 | midkay | sharpe doesn't deserve that tag. |
| 08:07:54 | sharpe | sorry, you know i will always have to hold that over you. |
| 08:07:56 | midkay | *takes and gives to scorche* |
| 08:07:58 | scorche | i already am an expert! |
| 08:08:02 | scorche | =D |
| 08:08:13 | sharpe | but i got it before you. :) |
| 08:08:15 | midkay | sharpe, you're a pseudo-expert and you KNOW it. |
| 08:08:26 | midkay | parentheses!!!!! |
| 08:08:42 | sharpe | congratulations? |
| 08:09:06 | sharpe | besides, i thought t0mas held the youngest title. |
| 08:09:11 | midkay | what. |
| 08:09:16 | midkay | who's that. WHAT. |
| 08:09:21 | midkay | t0mas. wake up. tell us your age. |
| 08:09:54 | midkay | sharpe, you need to know something. even if i spelled parentheses wrong.. i'm not as dumb as this guy who thinks brackets are parenthAses! http://answers.yahoo.com/question/?qid=20060613162920AA2stHZ |
| 08:10:09 | sharpe | you just spelled it wrong again... |
| 08:10:18 | sharpe | even if it was on purpose |
| 08:10:40 | midkay | that's why I CAPITALIZED THE "A"!!!!! |
| 08:10:48 | midkay | to INDICATE that IT was ON *PURPOSE*! |
| 08:11:28 | sharpe | we need to agree on a format of purpose like, "On Purpose: parenthAses" |
| 08:11:34 | sharpe | or maybe the classic, "(sic)" |
| 08:11:45 | sharpe | parenthases (sic) |
| 08:12:23 | midkay | NO. |
| 08:12:31 | midkay | hey. did scorche ever tell us HIS age?! |
| 08:12:40 | scorche | yes |
| 08:12:42 | sharpe | er, i may vaguely remember it once... |
| 08:12:50 | midkay | sharpe, guess it from your memory. |
| 08:12:55 | midkay | then, scorche, inform us! |
| 08:13:00 | sharpe | twenty-three? |
| 08:13:56 | midkay | well, scorche?! |
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| 08:14:03 | sharpe | ooh, wait! we can make a plugin out of this, "Guess Developer/Associate Ages!" |
| 08:14:29 | midkay | sure. but. how about just calling it.. sharpe_sucks.rock. |
| 08:14:48 | sharpe | you can have spaces in file names midkay. |
| 08:15:07 | midkay | but we don't generally in rockbox, sharpe. |
| 08:15:11 | midkay | and you forgot a comma. HAH. |
| 08:15:12 | fire | scorche: yes, i did find the logs ;- |
| 08:15:29 | scorche | =) |
| 08:15:41 | fire | i also saw the resulting jokes :-D |
| 08:15:47 | midkay | scorche, well. inform us. quickly! |
| 08:15:49 | sharpe | yes, my lack of a comma is much worthier of ridicule than your spelling of parentheses... :) |
| 08:15:50 | scorche | but it wasnt about you =) |
| 08:16:05 | fire | ohh? |
| 08:16:16 | sharpe | what was your question again? |
| 08:16:21 | scorche | it was about webguest74 |
| 08:16:26 | fire | mine? |
| 08:16:36 | midkay | scorche, i mean, about your age, ffs. |
| 08:16:40 | midkay | or. |
| 08:16:43 | midkay | never. wait. |
| 08:16:44 | midkay | just. sigh. |
| 08:16:45 | midkay | :p |
| 08:16:49 | sharpe | fire: aye. |
| 08:17:00 | scorche | midkay: look through the logs since i ave been here =P |
| 08:17:10 | fire | if its possible to use Rockbox using iPL Bootloader |
| 08:17:12 | fire | :-) |
| 08:17:13 | midkay | so like.. half a year?! |
| 08:17:33 | sharpe | just search, "scorche" and "agE" |
| 08:17:40 | fire | scorche already answered that you can, i came back for a link to how or whatever i can get. . . |
| 08:17:45 | sharpe | must have the capital E though. |
| 08:18:28 | scorche | fire: actually, with the iPL, it should auto detect rockbox if i am not mistaken |
| 08:18:31 | midkay | i can't find it. :( |
| 08:18:38 | midkay | haha, sharpe. alright. |
| 08:18:39 | sharpe | eighteen! |
| 08:18:57 | scorche | you found it that fast? |
| 08:18:59 | sharpe | yep. |
| 08:19:03 | * | scorche claps |
| 08:19:06 | midkay | how the hell. :( |
| 08:19:20 | fire | scorche: but can you . . .ehh. ..tri-boot(?) it with Podzilla and the apple installed firmware? |
| 08:19:26 | sharpe | fire: yes. |
| 08:19:31 | scorche | yes |
| 08:19:43 | sharpe | hrrm. i'm quick this morning. |
| 08:19:47 | scorche | no |
| 08:19:47 | midkay | Rockbox . Main . WebIndex |
| 08:19:47 | midkay | SPAM.com Country: USA Comment: (scorche) Personal Preferences (details in ... SPAM.com Country: USA Comment: Mechanical Engineer Systems Analyst Age 57 ... |
| 08:19:47 | midkay | www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebIndex - 918k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this |
| 08:19:53 | fire | is that in the docs anywhere? |
| 08:19:55 | midkay | well well.. this page would indicate OTHERWISE! |
| 08:20:04 | midkay | 57? this SICKO perv.. |
| 08:20:04 | scorche | wtf? |
| 08:20:13 | sharpe | hahah. |
| 08:20:24 | * | midkay stares in disgust |
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| 08:20:39 | scorche | midkay: so are you gonna play me in hl2 or what? |
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| 08:20:57 | midkay | scorche, i was waiting to get on vent and then hl2dm, yeah...... |
| 08:21:02 | sharpe | that doesn't sound right, right after what midkay said.. |
| 08:21:32 | midkay | what? is that in the docs?! |
| 08:21:50 | sharpe | oh wow. spam :) |
| 08:21:50 | fire | anything relevent to my question :-p |
| 08:21:52 | sharpe | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyPhentermine |
| 08:21:56 | midkay | :P |
| 08:22:11 | fire | about the ability to use Rockbox with iPL Bootloader |
| 08:22:40 | sharpe | and the editing of other people's wiki pages to point to TinaCarol |
| 08:22:52 | midkay | hmmmhmhahaha. that made me laugh for some reason. |
| 08:23:01 | midkay | well. some kind of.. giggle/moan hybrid. |
| 08:23:18 | sharpe | what...? |
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| 08:23:22 | midkay | and again. and again. hehu. TinaCarol. hahaha. |
| 08:23:35 | midkay | hahahaha. |
| 08:23:42 | midkay | HAHAHA. |
| 08:24:03 | sharpe | ... |
| 08:24:24 | midkay | tinacarol. HAHA. |
| 08:24:46 | sharpe | alright. |
| 08:25:04 | fire | anyhow...thanks sharpe and scorche |
| 08:25:11 | scorche | sure thing |
| 08:25:14 | sharpe | anytime |
| 08:25:22 | fire | i need to take off again, i may check back in sometime :-) |
| 08:25:23 | scorche | midkay: |
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| 08:25:33 | sharpe | you can triple boot with the rockbox bootloader also... :-) |
| 08:25:44 | scorche | he has quit... |
| 08:25:48 | scorche | FAIL |
| 08:25:49 | midkay | who said you couldn't! |
| 08:25:49 | sharpe | yes... |
| 08:26:20 | sharpe | but chances are, he may look at the logs again. |
| 08:26:32 | sharpe | midkay: still use the customizable bootloader? |
| 08:26:36 | scorche | omg!!!! |
| 08:26:36 | midkay | haha. yes. |
| 08:26:41 | midkay | because i haven't been able to.. get rid of it! |
| 08:26:42 | midkay | waste of time. |
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| 08:26:44 | scorche | i can hear midkay!!! |
| 08:26:47 | midkay | i'd if i wanted to WASTE TIME. |
| 08:26:49 | sharpe | hah! score! |
| 08:26:52 | midkay | i can hear this guy too!! |
| 08:26:58 | fire | i may try the Rockbox bootloader :-) |
| 08:27:12 | sharpe | i'm good. :D |
| 08:27:14 | midkay | damn, i thought i could hear him. |
| 08:27:17 | midkay | he's just a big fat FAKE. |
| 08:27:23 | scorche | how...did...you....do...that? |
| 08:27:28 | sharpe | midkay: remember, he's 57. hahahah. |
| 08:27:37 | midkay | whoa. :E yeah. |
| 08:27:53 | fire | goodnight now, and thanks again |
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| 08:28:11 | sharpe | scorche: was that to me? |
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| 08:28:22 | scorche | yes |
| 08:28:27 | sharpe | i really have no idea. |
| 08:28:36 | sharpe | maybe he did look at the logs |
| 08:29:08 | scorche | maybe... |
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| 08:29:13 | sharpe | midkay: is it really a waste of time...? |
| 08:29:15 | fire | nah |
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| 08:29:23 | sharpe | ... |
| 08:29:23 | midkay | what? |
| 08:29:26 | midkay | haha. i don't mind.. |
| 08:29:29 | midkay | i wish there was more to do.. |
| 08:29:37 | midkay | i have white-on-black. |
| 08:29:38 | sharpe | midkay> because i haven't been able to.. get rid of it! |
| 08:29:38 | sharpe | <midkay> waste of time. |
| 08:29:46 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:29:57 | sharpe | more to do? :) |
| 08:31:04 | scorche | AHAHAHAHA |
| 08:31:16 | scorche | midkay is afraid of spiders =P |
| 08:31:19 | scorche | nyah nyah |
| 08:31:24 | midkay | HEY. |
| 08:31:30 | scorche | =P |
| 08:31:30 | midkay | i'm sharing my secrets. pouring my heart out. |
| 08:31:33 | midkay | and this is how i'm REPAID. |
| 08:31:57 | sharpe | he's transcribing, audio -> irc. |
| 08:32:35 | midkay | haha. |
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| 08:32:44 | scorche`` | dcc! |
| 08:33:13 | sharpe | scorche-prime-prime? |
| 08:33:52 | scorche | what |
| 08:33:52 | scorche`` | about |
| 08:33:54 | scorche | it |
| 08:33:56 | scorche`` | ? |
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| 08:34:27 | sharpe | oh no. |
| 08:35:36 | sharpe | hmm. this sucks. nothing to do. |
| 08:35:51 | midkay | your mother sucks. |
| 08:35:54 | midkay | ooo. jk. |
| 08:35:56 | midkay | no. |
| 08:35:59 | midkay | sorry. sorry. seriously. |
| 08:36:00 | scorche | hey now... |
| 08:36:03 | midkay | that was totally on impulse. |
| 08:36:10 | scorche | this is #rockbox |
| 08:36:12 | midkay | jesus. why did i do that. it was like it ran through my head.. and i.. |
| 08:36:25 | scorche | we are supposed to be on a seperate entity than usual irc =P |
| 08:36:31 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:36:36 | sharpe | heh. |
| 08:36:44 | sharpe | that's only when midkay's not awake. |
| 08:36:49 | midkay | sorry, i mistook it for #coc−− well.. some other similarly-named channel! |
| 08:36:51 | midkay | hey. |
| 08:36:56 | sharpe | :D |
| 08:37:01 | sharpe | sorry, totally on impulse. |
| 08:37:02 | scorche | lol |
| 08:37:13 | midkay | very ORIGINAL, sharpe. |
| 08:37:27 | sharpe | i heart my ORIGINALITY. |
| 08:37:33 | midkay | it sucks. |
| 08:38:40 | sharpe | hey, at least you're not awake five hours after everyone has gone to sleep that i usually talk to. in the same timezone. |
| 08:39:06 | sharpe | nothing to do with ORIGINALITY but still. :) |
| 08:39:11 | midkay | owned. |
| 08:39:45 | sharpe | you mean, purchased? |
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| 08:42:31 | midkay | scorche, http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=28216B555CEE81F8 |
| 08:42:49 | sharpe | why not sharpe? :( |
| 08:43:27 | midkay | because you aren't a hl2dmmer. |
| 08:43:30 | midkay | :p:DDD |
| 08:43:41 | sharpe | dmmer? |
| 08:43:48 | midkay | .. hl2:dm player.!?!?! |
| 08:43:56 | sharpe | oh, right. |
| 08:44:06 | sharpe | thought it was a long acronym. |
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| 08:44:37 | midkay | 67.40.198.98 |
| 08:44:54 | sharpe | i know what that is!! |
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| 08:48:08 | midkay | haha |
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| 08:48:47 | scorche | just so everyone knows...that last laugh coincided with a rl laugh |
| 08:49:40 | sharpe | what makes you laugh so much that you need to laugh aloud and type 'haha' ? :) |
| 08:49:50 | sharpe | to an irc channel?! |
| 08:49:54 | midkay | hey, |
| 08:49:56 | midkay | fu all, alright. |
| 08:50:17 | midkay | they were SEPERATE LAUGHS! |
| 08:50:47 | sharpe | i'm... i'm sorry midkay... |
| 08:50:50 | scorche | at the same time! |
| 08:51:01 | midkay | rl laugh was @ rl scorche. |
| 08:51:04 | midkay | irc laugh -> irc sharpe. |
| 08:51:05 | midkay | :D |
| 08:51:07 | sharpe | and the big word for that, "Simultaneous!" |
| 08:51:31 | scorche | ahaha |
| 08:51:38 | scorche | sharpei! |
| 08:51:42 | scorche | like the poodle! |
| 08:51:51 | sharpe | ... |
| 08:52:18 | sharpe | that is not a poodle.. |
| 08:52:40 | sharpe | according to google, anyway. |
| 08:52:42 | midkay | how do you know. |
| 08:53:00 | scorche | ok fine.,..like the dopg |
| 08:53:11 | sharpe | :) |
| 08:53:24 | scorche | LIKE THE DOG THAT YOU ARE!! |
| 08:53:39 | scorche | wow...this has been quite the off-tpoic spree for #rockbox |
| 08:53:47 | sharpe | yes... |
| 08:54:04 | sharpe | however it's not like there are pressing rockbox matters for us to attend to. |
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| 08:56:37 | midkay | haha. |
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| 09:07:59 | sharpe | well. i think... |
| 09:08:56 | sharpe | i'm going to try to sleep. |
| 09:09:36 | sharpe | 'night everyone. |
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| 09:59:17 | MrStaticVoid | ls |
| 09:59:23 | MrStaticVoid | wrong window |
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| 10:08:45 | scorche | this is fun ) |
| 10:08:54 | midkay | haha. |
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| 10:13:03 | midkay | SHARPEI. |
| 10:26:16 | scorche | like the dog! |
| 10:49:11 | midkay | sharpei. |
| 10:49:29 | petur | boring! |
| 10:49:49 | midkay | like petur! |
| 10:57:27 | preglow | shut up! |
| 10:57:50 | scorche | =O |
| 10:58:03 | scorche | midkay says dirty things to me... |
| 10:58:07 | midkay | haha. |
| 10:58:15 | scorche | =O |
| 10:58:23 | scorche | thats it |
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| 11:09:31 | spiorf | hi, do anyone know how to dither images for themes? |
| 11:09:45 | spiorf | i keep getting ugly bands in every gradient |
| 11:10:34 | petur | I think irfanview has a selection of algoritms |
| 11:12:10 | petur | sorry, it seems also rather limited to one option |
| 11:12:52 | spiorf | i only want one :) |
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| 11:13:15 | spiorf | and to know what's the color depth of images on ipod nano |
| 11:14:10 | petur | http://www.irfanview.com/ |
| 11:14:33 | spiorf | that seems for windows :( |
| 11:14:50 | amiconn | spiorf: All current colour targets use 16bit colour: RGB565 |
| 11:14:50 | petur | yups |
| 11:15:30 | spiorf | converting to that format and back to 32 bit color will preserve the correct dithering? |
| 11:15:58 | spiorf | because rockbox dont recognized an image i converted yesterday |
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| 11:20:22 | markun | amiconn: would it be useful to add floyd-steinberg dithering to rockbox? |
| 11:21:33 | Zagor | BlackListPlugin is now installed in TWiki. report any problems to me. |
| 11:22:15 | petur | goodie |
| 11:24:02 | Genre9mp3 | it was about time...let's hope now that it will help |
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| 11:32:38 | preglow | markun: the jpeg viewer might benefit |
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| 11:36:19 | scorche | midkay cheats |
| 11:36:30 | midkay | haha. |
| 11:36:36 | midkay | so does scorche's.. well.. |
| 11:36:39 | midkay | parental figure. |
| 11:36:41 | midkay | ?:D |
| 11:36:44 | midkay | er. |
| 11:36:45 | midkay | >:D |
| 11:37:52 | markun | preglow: I tried to implement it in the jpeg viewer for my H120 before it had graylib suport |
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| 11:40:09 | amiconn | f-s is sloo-ow |
| 11:40:31 | amiconn | Implementing it for jpeg will require a lot of thinking |
| 11:40:56 | amiconn | On colur targets, it converts directly from yuv to lcd format |
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| 11:46:07 | scorche | ew... midkay is a quitter |
| 11:46:15 | midkay | ru kiding me scorchie. |
| 11:46:31 | scorche | quitter! |
| 11:46:38 | midkay | CHEATER |
| 11:46:46 | scorche | QUITTTER |
| 11:47:01 | midkay | haha. |
| 11:47:08 | * | petur wants to send the little kids home |
| 11:48:19 | midkay | hey. HEY. |
| 11:48:41 | midkay | send yourself home, son. |
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| 11:56:38 | preglow | amiconn: four multiply-accumulate instructions per pixel? |
| 11:56:45 | preglow | doesn't sound exceedingly slow |
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| 13:13:23 | funky | hi! |
| 13:14:54 | petur | ho! |
| 13:19:18 | funky | Which player do you recommend me to buy? I'll buy one this evening, I'll run rockbox on it? the main options are ipod video and Iriver h300 |
| 13:19:57 | petur | what do you want from it? |
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| 13:20:54 | funky | listen mp3/ogg, play video, I have seen that there is gb emulation support |
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| 13:21:31 | petur | if you want video, go for ipod video |
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| 13:22:07 | petur | if you want radio, usbotg, standard connectors, go h300 |
| 13:22:08 | funky | iriver h300 also plays video |
| 13:22:14 | funky | aha |
| 13:22:26 | petur | 10 or 15fps on a small screen |
| 13:22:43 | petur | yes it's video ;) |
| 13:22:54 | PaulJam | the video capabilities of the h300 are clearly inferior to those of the ipod g5 |
| 13:22:56 | funky | on the go, means that I could play video on a external device ? |
| 13:23:39 | funky | petur: do you suggest any other player ? |
| 13:24:01 | petur | usbotg = you can copy files from/to another device |
| 13:24:15 | funky | ahh, ok |
| 13:25:16 | petur | h300 is also much thicker |
| 13:27:06 | funky | Could I have rockbox, IpodLinux and apple's firmware at the same time on a ipod 5th gen ? |
| 13:27:13 | crashd | yeah |
| 13:27:14 | petur | yes |
| 13:27:18 | funky | nice |
| 13:27:46 | funky | thanks for your help guys |
| 13:27:57 | * | funky goes on reading rockbox doc |
| 13:29:42 | PaulJam | lol, i just read that western digital was sued because of the correct usage of the term gigabyte. |
| 13:31:21 | PaulJam | btw, rockbox uses GB/MB where it should be GiB/MiB. for example in the info screen. |
| 13:32:00 | scorche | ... |
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| 13:56:40 | amiconn | PaulJam: I've never seen people using those odd *iB units for real. |
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| 14:04:08 | PaulJam | amiconn: but it's technically correct. you could use the same argument against the dB scale (I've never seen an mp3player using this odd dB scale for real) ;) |
| 14:05:14 | Zagor | PaulJam: we're old and grumpy. GB works fine for us. |
| 14:05:48 | amiconn | PaulJam: I have seen multiple audio devices using a dB scale. |
| 14:06:23 | amiconn | GB and MB are binary by convention. It's like that in every OS. |
| 14:06:39 | amiconn | For KB, it's even made clear by the capital K |
| 14:08:43 | PaulJam | amiconn: but i have also seen multiple applications using *iB units. |
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| 14:09:01 | * | linuxstb agrees with Zagor |
| 14:09:16 | * | preglow likes *iB |
| 14:09:30 | * | petur doesn't want to feel old and grumpy (yet) |
| 14:09:57 | preglow | the power of two definition has always bothered me in the extreme |
| 14:09:59 | amiconn | PaulJam: Really? |
| 14:10:27 | * | amiconn is curious what apps that might be |
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| 14:13:46 | preglow | i'd just like for the confusion to end |
| 14:14:27 | funky | which model do you think has more autonomy ? ipod video or iriver h300 ? |
| 14:14:58 | petur | h300 with a replacement ipod battery? |
| 14:16:01 | funky | ? |
| 14:16:22 | funky | h300 with its own battery vs ipod with its own battery, no replacements |
| 14:17:30 | petur | ipod + rockbox gives poor runtime atm, this should get better as development continues |
| 14:18:18 | funky | and using their original firmware ? which one get better runtime ? |
| 14:18:39 | midkay | i think h300 is like double as far as rockbox, and also ahead as far as original firmware.. |
| 14:18:50 | petur | don't know about ipod, h300 is spec'd at 16h (using rockbox gives you more) |
| 14:19:11 | midkay | ipod is specced at 12h (30gb) or 14 (60gb) |
| 14:19:20 | PaulJam | amiconn: partimage (linux) for example |
| 14:19:48 | midkay | and thusly, bed 'tis for me.. laters. |
| 14:20:22 | linuxstb | funky: Apple claim "up to 20 hours" for the video. Rockbox on the H300 can do at least 20h I think, but Rockbox on the ipod video is only around 10h. |
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| 14:20:39 | linuxstb | Note the "up to 20h" from Apple... I've no idea what the real figures are. |
| 14:22:32 | funky | ok, thanks |
| 14:22:41 | funky | I think h300 its gaining positions |
| 14:23:50 | linuxstb | You just need to decide on your priorities. Do you need video? Is 10 hours of runtime enough? Radio? USBOTG? Standard connectors. etc etc... |
| 14:24:28 | linuxstb | Also, the H300 isn't manufactured any more... |
| 14:25:05 | petur | there's also the iaudio x5 |
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| 14:27:29 | funky | linuxstb: I just want a good quality music player, with a good interface and as long as possible autonomy, video/radio is not really necessary, but It would be nice. about connectors... whats wrong with ipod connector ? |
| 14:27:37 | funky | petur: I'll take a look |
| 14:27:56 | XavierGr | funky: IMHO any iPod is useless to me |
| 14:28:11 | XavierGr | go for an H300/H100 or an X5 |
| 14:28:42 | XavierGr | if you can't find an H100/300 search for an archos though these devices are even more rare to find |
| 14:29:00 | petur | the x5 also has a lame dock connector :/ |
| 14:29:07 | XavierGr | true |
| 14:29:57 | XavierGr | but still far better than an ipod ;p |
| 14:30:05 | petur | funky: standard connectors means you can take a normal (mini) usb connector, normal line-in plug in stead of having to pay $$$ for special cables |
| 14:30:17 | * | Genre9mp3 agrees with XavierGr |
| 14:30:21 | Genre9mp3 | :P |
| 14:30:40 | XavierGr | then it is set, funky: go buy an H300/100 |
| 14:30:43 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 14:30:45 | petur | and as for autonomy, buy this: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/07/03/voller_fuel_cell_abc/ |
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| 14:31:19 | crwl | on the other hand, especially the H340 is just uncomfortably huge... |
| 14:31:22 | petur | hey Mmmm! |
| 14:31:37 | Mmmm | Hey Petur...ta for committing.. |
| 14:31:40 | petur | np |
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| 14:31:53 | XavierGr | crwl: yes it is big because it has so many features |
| 14:32:15 | crwl | XavierGr, are you serious? |
| 14:32:21 | XavierGr | what? |
| 14:32:27 | XavierGr | don't you agree? |
| 14:32:30 | Mmmm | Petur:I'll put all remote key defines under the h100/h300 keypad defs from now on then! |
| 14:32:30 | crwl | no, not really |
| 14:32:57 | XavierGr | well tell me that trying to move files or listen to radio without a PC |
| 14:33:04 | Mmmm | Ive finished virtual keyboard support for the remote http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5628 |
| 14:33:09 | XavierGr | not to mention recording |
| 14:33:10 | Mmmm | phew.. |
| 14:33:23 | XavierGr | nice work Mmmm |
| 14:33:26 | petur | Mmmm: I was a bit puzzled by this but amiconn helped to clear it out ;) |
| 14:33:27 | crwl | XavierGr, you are saying that adding a FM radio chip to, say, iPod Video would more than double its thickness? |
| 14:33:31 | funky | x5 loos fine |
| 14:33:39 | funky | looks* |
| 14:33:43 | crwl | especially that for example the iaudio X5 is so much thinner than h300 series :P |
| 14:34:06 | XavierGr | Well I can't say it will be double the size, but there are many more features. |
| 14:34:18 | XavierGr | USB OTG, radio, recording |
| 14:34:28 | XavierGr | Am I forgetting something? |
| 14:34:32 | Mmmm | XavierGr: cheers :) |
| 14:34:34 | XavierGr | ah and line -in/out |
| 14:34:35 | petur | crwl: the h340 has 7 connectors |
| 14:35:00 | XavierGr | iPod Video has a great screen on the other hand |
| 14:35:01 | crwl | petur, is that really an excuse? |
| 14:35:05 | XavierGr | but that's it |
| 14:35:22 | petur | it also has room for a nice high-capacity battery |
| 14:35:22 | XavierGr | also an iPod has a serious luck of buttons |
| 14:35:33 | XavierGr | lack |
| 14:35:43 | crwl | well, even h100 series has room for a high-capacity battery yet it still isn't as huge as h300 series |
| 14:35:44 | Mmmm | So...all the remote support work is done for 3.0, It just needs committing now! Anyone fancy it? |
| 14:35:59 | XavierGr | crwl: that's a good argument |
| 14:36:19 | XavierGr | but still an iPod all it can do is just play music |
| 14:36:25 | XavierGr | and it is thin |
| 14:36:39 | crwl | it has all the hardware for USB on the go, though, doesn't it |
| 14:36:39 | petur | Mmmm: be patient ;) remote supprt is req'd for 3.0 so they'll get in... |
| 14:36:49 | XavierGr | for the same money the H300 and H100 outperforms an iPod |
| 14:36:57 | Mmmm | :D patient???.... me???? |
| 14:36:57 | crwl | and they *could* add a radio, but for some reason have chosen not to |
| 14:37:14 | XavierGr | it has the hardware for USB OTG? |
| 14:37:19 | XavierGr | I dind't know that |
| 14:37:30 | crwl | well, it can download pictures from a digital camera with the retail OS, can't it? |
| 14:37:44 | XavierGr | can it? I don't know |
| 14:37:50 | XavierGr | I thought it couldn't |
| 14:37:54 | crwl | at least the ipod photo can, if i'm not mistaken :) |
| 14:38:20 | XavierGr | AFAIK there is no USB OTG on ipods |
| 14:38:33 | XavierGr | the feature comparison table says so |
| 14:38:42 | XavierGr | but yeah I am not sure |
| 14:38:58 | petur | maybe hidden inside the pp chip? |
| 14:39:11 | petur | undocumented of course ;) |
| 14:39:25 | XavierGr | ah who can understand apple and their stange marketing tricks |
| 14:39:30 | XavierGr | (or porta player) |
| 14:40:20 | XavierGr | anyway an iPod is good for a user that don't cares about features and is extremely itchy about size |
| 14:40:29 | crwl | at least Apple sells this adapter: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?productLearnMore=M9861G/A |
| 14:40:38 | crwl | it's sad that everything needs an adapter, though |
| 14:41:00 | XavierGr | ah it's an external accessory |
| 14:41:01 | funky | does Iriver have, educational discounts as apples does? |
| 14:41:13 | XavierGr | then the ipos has both radio and recording capabilities |
| 14:41:19 | XavierGr | but just not all at once |
| 14:41:22 | XavierGr | :P |
| 14:41:39 | XavierGr | funky: no as far as I know |
| 14:41:42 | crwl | well, the accessory is just an adapter, I guess? |
| 14:42:02 | petur | cwrl: ipod + accesory cable is bigger than h340 :p |
| 14:42:08 | XavierGr | crwl: yes but it means that the hardware for USB OTG is inside that accessory |
| 14:42:15 | crwl | XavierGr, is that certain? |
| 14:42:15 | XavierGr | petur: haha |
| 14:42:24 | XavierGr | I am not certain |
| 14:42:37 | crwl | petur, as if you needed to have that accessory with you all the time :P |
| 14:42:43 | XavierGr | but it is just like the case with the radio accessory and the recoding accesory |
| 14:42:56 | XavierGr | ^recording |
| 14:43:02 | crwl | anyway, you need to be a hip hop fan to stuff a h340 to your pocket comfortably |
| 14:43:10 | XavierGr | hahah |
| 14:43:21 | crwl | and that's sad IMHO |
| 14:43:21 | XavierGr | get a banana bag |
| 14:43:27 | XavierGr | yes |
| 14:43:32 | crwl | not that i had an ipod either |
| 14:43:39 | XavierGr | on the other hand it is sad that iPos has so few features |
| 14:43:47 | XavierGr | ^iPod |
| 14:44:03 | XavierGr | crwl: what do you have? |
| 14:44:14 | petur | crwl: well, as the h340 has a std usb connector, I mostly have a 5cm usb cble with me. In other cases, the person I visit has one from his camera. |
| 14:44:32 | funky | crwlanyway, you need to be a hip hop fan to stuff a h340 to your pocket comfortably |
| 14:44:34 | funky | lol |
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| 14:44:59 | XavierGr | crwl = devil's advocate! :P |
| 14:45:04 | Genre9mp3 | I'm not a hip-hop fan... |
| 14:45:06 | crwl | XavierGr, I have a h120 (and would like it a lot thinner, but am not switching it to anything) |
| 14:45:19 | XavierGr | crwl: that's the spirit |
| 14:45:36 | linuxstb | The ipods have almost all the features of the H300 - main one missing is radio. It has USBOTG hardware (the "Camera connector" from apple is just a dumb adapter) as well as recording up to 24-bit/96KHz. But it's all hidden in that stupid dock connector... |
| 14:45:41 | JDGordon | hey all, im locked out of my comp :p can someone tell me how to get iptables to accept udp 177 ? (im trying to connect to xdmcp) |
| 14:45:50 | crwl | H120 is ok without the case, but quite uncomfortable with the standard case, it fits fine to a jacket pocket or a bag, though |
| 14:45:58 | crwl | the remote helps, I'm sort of learning to use it nowadays |
| 14:46:36 | XavierGr | the remote rules |
| 14:46:44 | XavierGr | ah yeah I never mentioned the remote |
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| 14:46:51 | XavierGr | I completely forgot about that |
| 14:46:57 | Mmmm | especially now its properly supported ;) |
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| 14:47:17 | XavierGr | there are not many DAPs that have a remote with screen |
| 14:47:20 | JDGordon | still a few screen patches need to get comited.. but yes the remote kicks ass :D |
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| 14:48:34 | linuxstb | XavierGr: The X5 does, the ipods do... |
| 14:51:03 | XavierGr | ipods have that? |
| 14:51:08 | XavierGr | as an accessory I suppose? |
| 14:51:52 | XavierGr | well that's what I am talking about to get an iPod that nearly has the same features as an iriver you nees to pay 300$ on accesories |
| 14:52:00 | XavierGr | that's simply discusting |
| 14:52:02 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.maplin.co.uk/images/full/48661i0.jpg |
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| 14:53:36 | petur | they probably need a doc-hub if you want to use radio and remote :p |
| 14:53:44 | XavierGr | hehe |
| 14:54:06 | Soap | There's nothing on the radio in the United States anyhoo, outside NPR. |
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| 14:54:24 | linuxstb | But there's a big world outside the USA.... |
| 14:54:46 | petur | linuxstb: sshhht, most americans don't know |
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| 14:55:52 | Soap | I qualify the extent of my statement and you still grab it as an excuse for anti-US... |
| 14:56:21 | petur | europe is all fm and almost nothing on am |
| 14:56:26 | XavierGr | yup |
| 14:56:32 | amiconn | Throwing some random facts in: The ipods should be able to do usbotg, but without docs it's practically impossible to support |
| 14:56:50 | amiconn | Same goes for the X5. Most of its hardware is documented, the usbotg chip is not |
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| 14:57:32 | amiconn | The H300 usbotg chip is documented, and even example code is publicly available from the manufacturer |
| 14:57:46 | petur | hooray ;) |
| 14:58:18 | XavierGr | and petur will bring us the whole USB OTG support, right petur :p |
| 14:58:27 | petur | yeah, sure |
| 14:59:08 | XavierGr | I had the strangest idea yesterday, we could make the simulator to connect on a server and play multiplayer plugins |
| 14:59:19 | XavierGr | oh god I am so damaged |
| 14:59:27 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr: You need some rest |
| 14:59:32 | Zagor | our field agents are infiltrating PortalPlayer headquarters as we speak |
| 14:59:33 | XavierGr | indeed :D |
| 14:59:53 | amiconn | XavierGr: Another idea would be to make usbotg support usb-ethernet adapters |
| 14:59:54 | crwl | what's the main cause for poor battery performance with rockbox on the iaudio x5? |
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| 15:00:22 | amiconn | (or better still, usb-wlan adapters) |
| 15:00:28 | XavierGr | amiconn: that's a perfect idea! |
| 15:00:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | crwl: Unknown as of yet. |
| 15:00:38 | petur | XavierGr: I also had a strange idea: write a MSD device driver use the usbotg port, so that you can access the disk while playing music |
| 15:00:42 | crwl | Paul_The_Nerd, could it be the usbotg chip? ;) |
| 15:00:57 | Zagor | usb, wlan, ip and tcp. quite a chunk of code, that... |
| 15:01:42 | amiconn | Zagor: IPX would be another option. Or netbios... |
| 15:01:44 | * | amiconn hides |
| 15:01:53 | petur | hahaha |
| 15:01:55 | Zagor | ohh, even more fun! :-) |
| 15:02:00 | JDGordon | ye, ipx so we can play dooom |
| 15:02:28 | amiconn | petur: That would be difficult. The msd driver would need to snoop accesses from the external host |
| 15:02:30 | XavierGr | we can have a tsr plugin that will handle the network code |
| 15:02:40 | petur | what about netbuie or whatever that M$ crap was called? |
| 15:02:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | The day I see four people with four different iPods playing a multiplayer Doom deathmatch is the day I just give up. |
| 15:02:57 | amiconn | petur: That's netbios |
| 15:03:06 | Genre9mp3 | There are many possibilities if we can achieve USBOTG-Ethernet |
| 15:03:27 | Genre9mp3 | eg. we can use it to make the player act as NAS |
| 15:03:31 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: multiplayer doom between an ipod, a H300 and an X5... |
| 15:03:42 | petur | drool... |
| 15:03:55 | * | XavierGr drools even more |
| 15:03:56 | Soap | jack of all trades, master of none |
| 15:03:57 | JDGordon | the h300 wins |
| 15:04:07 | * | JDGordon brb |
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| 15:04:38 | petur | probably the gigabeat (faster cpu) - but does it have usbotg? |
| 15:05:34 | JDGordon | does anyone know how to use iptables? |
| 15:05:51 | linuxstb | petur: Yes, but I think it needs the dock - which sort of makes it "USB not on the go" |
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| 15:06:13 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: LOL |
| 15:06:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's *almost* useful. |
| 15:09:51 | Ave | has the build system changed in cvs head? |
| 15:10:05 | Ave | or is the codebase just 100% broken atm |
| 15:11:02 | amiconn | ? |
| 15:11:05 | linuxstb | Seems to be working according to the build table: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 15:11:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ave: What exactly are you asking? |
| 15:11:15 | linuxstb | (the warnings are due to gcc 4.1 on some build servers) |
| 15:12:03 | Ave | this used to work: (cwd in build-dir) ../tools/configure; make clean all |
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| 15:12:14 | Ave | how I just get an error about missing apps dir |
| 15:15:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | And you've verified that your apps directory is there and proper? Also, that's a vague description of the error message. Have you tried checking out another copy of the source and seeing if it compiles for you? |
| 15:16:01 | Ave | doing that now |
| 15:16:27 | Ave | I saw some (major?) changes in the cvs maybe a week ago, regarding the apps dir |
| 15:16:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | A very large portion of Rockbox exists in the apps directory. |
| 15:17:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | And it compiles for everyone else. |
| 15:18:12 | Ave | I even updated with -APd |
| 15:18:21 | Ave | yes it must be my setup then |
| 15:20:02 | JDGordon | :'( why does this irc client not let us connect to any other channel but #rockbox?? |
| 15:20:33 | petur | rockbox is all you need :p |
| 15:20:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because it's the rockbox web client? |
| 15:20:46 | JDGordon | i need ##linux :'( |
| 15:20:55 | * | Paul_The_Nerd points to about six billion other IRC clients. |
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| 15:21:06 | JDGordon | ah, but they need to be installed :D |
| 15:21:18 | petur | ... of which none work if you're behind a firewall |
| 15:21:27 | crashd | not entirely true petur |
| 15:21:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm sure there are other webclients. |
| 15:21:32 | crashd | also, there's free web clients |
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| 15:26:00 | Ave | yes, fresh co saves the day, wonder what happened there that cvs up -AdP couldnt handle.. |
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| 15:26:23 | kadaj | what is rockbox? |
| 15:26:32 | jonno | yay! im finally sort of back :D |
| 15:26:46 | * | petur points to http://www.rockbox.org |
| 15:26:56 | apo | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox |
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| 15:27:19 | * | kadaj points to http://wm-chicks.dl.am |
| 15:27:21 | kadaj | lol |
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| 15:30:33 | Soap | you know you need a larger font when you read that as vim-chicks. |
| 15:32:24 | apo | ascii-chicks? :P |
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| 15:41:43 | JdGordon | weee :D virtual keyboard support for the remotes :D |
| 15:53:04 | Mikachu | soon you won't need the main unit at all |
| 15:54:14 | JdGordon | thats the idea :p |
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| 15:54:52 | petur | then people will start to ask if the battery and disk can't be mounted inside the remote too |
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| 15:55:49 | JdGordon | and give it a bigger display.. and a fm tuner and line in while ur at it :D |
| 15:56:36 | petur | and then a very small remote for the remote because the current one has become a bit large |
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| 15:59:37 | Soap | some believe this has already happened |
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| 16:16:02 | amiconn | petur: Sounds like Christi's idea of using the nano as a remote for her g4 |
| 16:16:27 | petur | yes it does |
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| 16:19:46 | JdGordon | sounds like a waste of money tho.. but if u have both then i could see the benifit of using the nano as a remote.. |
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| 17:12:53 | Malnilion | Does anybody happen to know a good tool for batch converting 500x500 jpg album art to something like 75x75 24bit bmp? |
| 17:13:24 | petur | http://www.irfanview.com |
| 17:13:29 | apo | Doesn't irfanview have some - :P |
| 17:13:33 | petur | (windows app) |
| 17:15:02 | Malnilion | Ah, thanks, petur. |
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| 17:18:14 | Soap | you can even record actions in photoshop |
| 17:20:20 | petur | the resampling filters in photoshop produce lousy quality compared to the lanczos filter that irfanview uses |
| 17:21:31 | petur | for generatiing thumbnail images this is important as you can keep or lose quite a bit of detail depending on the filter |
| 17:23:15 | Soap | dang, as I'm familiar with how to do it in PS, I guess I should play with infanview. Pissy to think of how much money I spent on a program getting beat by a piece of freeware. |
| 17:24:01 | petur | photoshop is nice for other things, irfanview is no editor |
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| 17:26:17 | Soap | yea, but for the price PS should scrub toilets. |
| 17:26:47 | darkless | stupid "access denied" on rockbox website... *grumbles* |
| 17:26:54 | darkless | just kidding, what are you guys messing with? |
| 17:28:42 | petur | darkless: [17:12] <Malnilion> Does anybody happen to know a good tool for batch converting 500x500 jpg album art to something like 75x75 24bit bmp? |
| 17:28:59 | Malnilion | And the answer was irfanview. |
| 17:29:12 | Malnilion | I just converted 82 images. Thanks, petur :) |
| 17:29:18 | darkless | nice one |
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| 17:29:39 | darkless | you DO have an access denied error, though |
| 17:31:05 | petur | where, on www.rockbox.org ? |
| 17:31:55 | darkless | yes |
| 17:32:01 | darkless | main page |
| 17:32:04 | petur | works here |
| 17:32:20 | markun | darkless: maybe your IP range is blacklisted or something? |
| 17:32:41 | petur | the wiki spam filter? |
| 17:32:48 | markun | Bagder or Zagor might be able to help you |
| 17:33:33 | darkless | yeah, it's blacklisted it seems. I'm using my parent's connection because I'm taking care of their house this week while they're on vacation |
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| 17:33:52 | darkless | my university connection can access it just fine using links |
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| 17:34:10 | darkless | s/connection/account/ |
| 17:34:16 | Zagor | darkless: your IP was been used by a spammer as recently as yesterday |
| 17:35:09 | petur | 11.21.33 # <Zagor> BlackListPlugin is now installed in TWiki. report any problems to me. |
| 17:35:27 | darkless | it's common knowledge around here that the ISP in this area is retarded... They're running the entire city-grid of fiber :( |
| 17:35:53 | darkless | Arrownet... burn in hell |
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| 17:42:08 | darkless | I'm stuck in dynamic IP hell, time to try an http proxy and see if rockbox.org likes me then |
| 17:42:09 | petur | meeting hell, bbl |
| 17:43:18 | Zagor | darkless: i've removed you from the ban list. try again now. |
| 17:43:48 | darkless | Zagor: thanks, it works now |
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| 18:30:45 | actionshrimp | hmmm, if i have num1[] = {1,12} num2[] = {2,32} does num1 < num2 evaluate true |
| 18:31:08 | dunno | hi, I'm having difficulty in accessing some parts of your site using this 84.153.102.151 address |
| 18:32:32 | dunno | and I can't acces irc either from that ip |
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| 18:47:23 | dunno | Bagder, is it possible that my ip address was hijacked ? |
| 18:48:31 | dunno | netjacked |
| 18:48:39 | klrspz | what? |
| 18:49:00 | klrspz | irc/site access has almost nothing to do with IP |
| 18:50:12 | dunno | well it does seem that some ip adresses have issues, blacklisted=hijacked |
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| 19:23:07 | preglow | it was bound to happen |
| 19:23:15 | * | preglow looks at the nynorsk translation patch |
| 19:24:09 | preglow | hmm, we don't have ellipsis in most of our fonts, do we? |
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| 19:34:24 | DarkJesus | I'm gonna get a cowon iaudio x5 soon |
| 19:34:30 | DarkJesus | Any reasons why I shouldn't? |
| 19:34:44 | bluey- | dunno |
| 19:34:51 | bluey- | maybe you'll find it to old :P |
| 19:35:04 | DarkJesus | Huh? |
| 19:35:07 | DarkJesus | What do you mean? |
| 19:35:19 | funky | DarkJesus: how much does it cost ? |
| 19:35:24 | bluey- | lol never mind |
| 19:35:30 | bluey- | it's a solid mp3player |
| 19:36:04 | DarkJesus | I need to find out if the 60GB version is bigger than an iRiver h120 |
| 19:36:09 | funky | iaudio x5 doesnt have buttons, it will be impossible to play using the gameboy emulator |
| 19:36:10 | funky | :( |
| 19:36:31 | DarkJesus | Don't really care! |
| 19:36:53 | DarkJesus | The X5 does have buttons |
| 19:37:01 | DarkJesus | I think you're thinking of the version before it |
| 19:37:13 | DarkJesus | Where the remote was used exclusively |
| 19:37:35 | funky | mmm, maybe, can you give me a link to the new one ? |
| 19:37:58 | DarkJesus | http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/electronics/B0009D5J7C/system-requirements/ref=ed_tec_dp_2_1/026-9354932-2597259 |
| 19:38:31 | linuxstb | I assume you're planning to use Rockbox on it? |
| 19:38:45 | DarkJesus | Ya |
| 19:39:03 | DarkJesus | What other good DAPs are around? |
| 19:39:09 | idnar | I've got one myself, quite happy with it |
| 19:39:14 | DarkJesus | Doesn't matter if they don't have rockbox yet |
| 19:39:23 | | Part dunno |
| 19:39:35 | DarkJesus | And is there a good active channel I can ask these questions? |
| 19:39:41 | DarkJesus | Or is it OK to ask here? |
| 19:42:54 | linuxstb | I think it's OK to ask here - but the problem (like everywhere I guess) is that not many people own every DAP... |
| 19:43:04 | DarkJesus | Yeah, I know |
| 19:43:15 | linuxstb | But I don't think you'll be disappointed with the X5 - I can't remember hearing any criticisms of it from owners. |
| 19:43:25 | DarkJesus | Yeah, it's a popular one |
| 19:44:27 | DarkJesus | idnar, what size one do you have? |
| 19:44:42 | idnar | 30GB |
| 19:45:28 | linuxstb | Although if Rockbox is important to you, it's worth noting that not many devs have an X5. The irivers and ipods are more widely owned. |
| 19:45:47 | DarkJesus | The default firmware seems good enough |
| 19:46:01 | DarkJesus | Does it seem large, idnar? |
| 19:46:08 | preglow | anyone know if our fonts have ellipsis characters? doesn't look like it to me |
| 19:46:44 | idnar | DarkJesus: well, what do you mean? |
| 19:46:53 | idnar | DarkJesus: the dimensions are listed on the website, I believe |
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| 19:47:07 | DarkJesus | I don't have a good head for dimensions like that |
| 19:47:24 | DarkJesus | How big would you say it is compared to either a 60GB ipod video, or a h120? |
| 19:47:29 | idnar | never seen either of those |
| 19:47:30 | DarkJesus | (If you know) |
| 19:47:36 | DarkJesus | Alright, no worries |
| 19:47:41 | idnar | it's bigger than my cellphone, smaller than my wallet |
| 19:47:46 | DarkJesus | I'll get the ruler out |
| 19:48:32 | DarkJesus | Hey, I just thought of something |
| 19:48:51 | DarkJesus | Seeing as it's hard to buy iriver h120s now, do you think I'd get good money for one? |
| 19:49:03 | DarkJesus | Even if the condition is questionable... |
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| 19:54:53 | DarkJesus | Does anyone have a toshiba gigabeat? |
| 19:54:56 | DarkJesus | Looks promising |
| 19:55:21 | DarkJesus | Unless it requires windows... |
| 19:55:32 | pixelma | preglow: do you mean like for the long 'a'? It works in the swedish translation with at least the default and rockfont-8 |
| 19:55:44 | preglow | no |
| 19:55:46 | preglow | for the '...' |
| 19:55:52 | preglow | three dots in one character |
| 19:56:19 | pixelma | ah - misunderstood - then I don't know |
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| 20:14:38 | Mikachu | i don't think that character is in latin1, so it's unlikely |
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| 20:29:21 | |apo| | "The disadvantage is that Rockbox will only play certain file types." < *giggles* |
| 20:31:45 | goffa | they are probably referring to the one it doesn't (wma) or the one it doesn't very well (aac) |
| 20:31:58 | goffa | with time that'll change too though |
| 20:32:52 | |apo| | Probably |
| 20:33:06 | goffa | as it is... that's a fair trade |
| 20:33:42 | |apo| | Hm, this is strange... I got the Re: Hi list mail 8:02... and the Hi list mail at 8:04 ^^; |
| 20:34:46 | goffa | odd |
| 20:38:38 | markun | DarkJesus: I have one |
| 20:39:08 | DarkJesus | One what, markun? |
| 20:39:17 | markun | Gigabeat (F40) |
| 20:39:21 | DarkJesus | And? |
| 20:39:34 | markun | Porting rockbox to it |
| 20:39:44 | markun | Till then it sucks (for me at least) |
| 20:39:50 | DarkJesus | Alright |
| 20:39:57 | DarkJesus | But how is it in terms of form? |
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| 20:40:14 | markun | The size? |
| 20:40:24 | Mekrob | hi can i ask you gouys a question |
| 20:40:36 | Mekrob | i just started the rock box installation on a 5g |
| 20:40:40 | DarkJesus | Yes, markun |
| 20:40:48 | Mekrob | i saved the 3 files to C: |
| 20:41:03 | Mekrob | now im trying to open rockbox |
| 20:41:08 | markun | A bit smaller than my iriver H120, but the X30 is a lot smaller |
| 20:41:13 | Mekrob | so i go to run |
| 20:41:17 | DarkJesus | x30? |
| 20:41:18 | Mekrob | type in cmd |
| 20:41:26 | Mekrob | then enter |
| 20:41:30 | Mekrob | type in C: |
| 20:41:34 | Mekrob | then enter |
| 20:41:49 | markun | DarkJesus: the right one: http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20050920/tos1_05.jpg |
| 20:41:51 | Mekrob | then i press cd ?rockbox |
| 20:41:53 | DarkJesus | What I'm looking for is a smallish 60GB DAP, with good sound |
| 20:42:00 | Mekrob | cd ?rockbox |
| 20:42:11 | DarkJesus | I think the iaudio X5 will match my specifications pretty well |
| 20:42:23 | goffa | yeah... good player |
| 20:42:35 | goffa | i have the x5l... big battery smaller drive |
| 20:42:39 | Mekrob | and it says the system can not find the file specified |
| 20:42:42 | linuxstb | Mekrob: You mean "cd \rockbox" ? |
| 20:42:47 | Mekrob | what do i do? |
| 20:42:55 | goffa | they haven't optimized the battery though DarkJesus |
| 20:43:00 | Mekrob | no it said \cd rockbox |
| 20:43:09 | Mekrob | yah |
| 20:43:21 | Mekrob | and do i need to update the firmware |
| 20:43:26 | Mekrob | its new out of box |
| 20:43:36 | DarkJesus | I'll use the default firmware until I'm happy with rockbox on it |
| 20:44:03 | Mekrob | anyone |
| 20:44:07 | goffa | yeah... default firmware is slow.. but you don't lose your video/recorder/radio/battery life |
| 20:44:11 | Mekrob | can you help me? |
| 20:44:21 | DarkJesus | Oh, it's slow? |
| 20:44:23 | goffa | Mekrob: you need to update the firmwaret to get rockbox towork |
| 20:44:24 | linuxstb | Mekrob: If you want to use Apple's firmware, then yes, you should probably update it first before installing Rockbox. |
| 20:44:35 | goffa | DarkJesus: comparitively |
| 20:44:37 | linuxstb | But if you never plan on using it, then you can forget it. |
| 20:44:38 | Mekrob | ok ill update then come back |
| 20:44:54 | DarkJesus | Alright goffa |
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| 20:44:56 | goffa | longer boot times... |
| 20:45:00 | DarkJesus | Yeah |
| 20:45:05 | DarkJesus | It's the same with the h120 |
| 20:45:31 | goffa | but then its not unbearable either |
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| 20:46:04 | markun | DarkJesus: the gigabeats have a nice screen and a fast CPU, but no recording for example |
| 20:46:15 | DarkJesus | Don't really care about that |
| 20:46:25 | DarkJesus | Would it work on linux? |
| 20:46:28 | goffa | i'm running rockbox on mine mostly because of musepack |
| 20:46:34 | DarkJesus | And what formats does it do? |
| 20:46:45 | goffa | yes it works on linux |
| 20:47:02 | goffa | and default firmware does ogg, flac, wma, mp3 |
| 20:47:06 | Mekrob | i plan on using ipod firmware for videos |
| 20:47:10 | DarkJesus | The gigabeat - does it work on linux? |
| 20:47:12 | markun | The gigabeat is not very linux friendly but it will with rockbox |
| 20:47:19 | DarkJesus | Right... |
| 20:47:22 | goffa | oh.. dunno about gigabeat |
| 20:47:25 | markun | You can use gphoto to transfer files, but only with USB 1.1 |
| 20:47:33 | DarkJesus | May just go with the X5 |
| 20:47:37 | Mekrob | and i want to use rockbox soley for doom and other games |
| 20:47:56 | linuxstb | Mekrob: So you're not planning on listening to music? |
| 20:47:59 | DarkJesus | The screen resolution is meant to be a bit poor, but that doesn't matter too much to me |
| 20:48:12 | goffa | gigabeat looks nice |
| 20:48:13 | markun | DarkJesus: then go for it |
| 20:48:23 | DarkJesus | Will do |
| 20:48:41 | DarkJesus | I will be putting videos on it, but I probably won't watch them! |
| 20:48:44 | Mekrob | i am |
| 20:48:45 | goffa | i ended up getting a h140 for a second player |
| 20:48:54 | Mekrob | but i will use either or |
| 20:49:00 | goffa | mostly because i don't need video |
| 20:49:05 | Mekrob | doesnt matter to me for music |
| 20:49:08 | funky | what about zen visio ? it looks fine, but is unsupported by rockbox |
| 20:49:15 | DarkJesus | Is it big? |
| 20:49:22 | DarkJesus | And does it do ogg and stuff? |
| 20:49:26 | goffa | i could put a 60gb in here... it has a 40gb now |
| 20:49:39 | goffa | with rockbox it does everything |
| 20:49:52 | Mekrob | hey does anyone have any spare time right now |
| 20:49:54 | goffa | well everything rockbox does |
| 20:50:30 | Mekrob | and has rockbox running |
| 20:50:45 | goffa | what do you need mek? |
| 20:50:54 | DarkJesus | I have rockbox on my H120 |
| 20:50:57 | Mekrob | im need someone to question when i get lost in the setup |
| 20:51:05 | Mekrob | on a 5 g |
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| 20:51:39 | lozzy | iPod 5g + Rockbox = cool. |
| 20:51:44 | goffa | hmm... i don't have an ipod... just x5l and h140 |
| 20:52:07 | |apo| | I have an iPod 4g 20gb and am thinking about getting a 5g with 60gb |
| 20:52:12 | Mekrob | well ill be asking a lot of questions. i probably will get stuck a lot on stupid stuff |
| 20:52:16 | goffa | DarkJesus: do you like your h120 other than capacity? |
| 20:52:21 | lozzy | Mekrob: What OS do you run? |
| 20:52:23 | Mekrob | please accomodate me if you can |
| 20:52:29 | DarkJesus | Er, I need bigger capacity, goffa |
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| 20:52:51 | pixelma | any wiki admins around? |
| 20:52:53 | goffa | yeah... i'd go with a 140 and upgrade the drive |
| 20:52:58 | Mekrob | i run windows xp |
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| 20:53:08 | lozzy | It's easy on XP. |
| 20:53:15 | lozzy | Just follow the instructions to the letter. |
| 20:53:21 | Mekrob | i am trying |
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| 20:53:34 | Mekrob | i try to do the search for rock box |
| 20:53:45 | Mekrob | but it says it doesnt exist |
| 20:53:50 | DarkJesus | I don't want a H140, goffa |
| 20:53:52 | DarkJesus | I want a change |
| 20:54:00 | Mekrob | do i need to have my ipod plugged in then |
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| 20:54:17 | goffa | ok DarkJesus |
| 20:54:28 | DarkJesus | The iaudio should do |
| 20:54:34 | goffa | yeah |
| 20:54:35 | DarkJesus | I wanna be able to play some videos too |
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| 20:54:46 | goffa | oh ok |
| 20:54:53 | goffa | didn't think that was a factor |
| 20:55:05 | lozzy | Mekrob: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060703.pdf |
| 20:55:13 | lozzy | playing video is overrated imo. |
| 20:55:16 | goffa | yeah.. nothing wrong with the x5 other than battery life |
| 20:55:22 | DarkJesus | Well, it's a nice addition |
| 20:55:27 | Mekrob | You will perform this and the following steps from the Windows command prompt. Start a command prompt and navigate to the C:\rockbox directory (type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter). |
| 20:55:29 | DarkJesus | Nice to have |
| 20:55:33 | lozzy | yeah, I thought so, but I really never used it myself |
| 20:55:33 | Mekrob | thats what it says |
| 20:55:39 | Mekrob | now ill tell you what i did |
| 20:55:44 | goffa | and battery life isn't an issue on default firmware |
| 20:55:46 | Mekrob | i opened run typed in cmd |
| 20:55:50 | Mekrob | pressed enter |
| 20:56:01 | Mekrob | then typed C: |
| 20:56:04 | lozzy | I d/led some vid podcasts, but I mainly watched them on my compy. |
| 20:56:04 | Mekrob | enter |
| 20:56:19 | Mekrob | then cd \rockbox enter |
| 20:56:24 | Soap | my computer doesn't have enough uumph to play mp4 |
| 20:56:24 | lozzy | You have to make that directory first Mekrob. |
| 20:56:31 | Mekrob | oh |
| 20:56:34 | Mekrob | a folder? |
| 20:56:37 | lozzy | Yah. |
| 20:56:41 | Mekrob | do i put anything in it |
| 20:56:50 | Soap | the files you download from the website |
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| 20:56:50 | Mekrob | all those files i dled |
| 20:56:51 | lozzy | erm, the instructions tell you everything. |
| 20:56:54 | lozzy | Yah |
| 20:56:55 | Mekrob | i did |
| 20:56:57 | Mekrob | ok |
| 20:57:20 | lozzy | pretty sure they say to make a C:\rockbox folder and stick everything in there for simplicity's sake. |
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| 21:02:37 | Mekrob | alright i now typed in ipodpatcher anda table came up |
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| 21:02:45 | Mekrob | does that mean it is recpgnized |
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| 21:03:14 | lozzy | I'd think so, yeah |
| 21:04:12 | Mekrob | ok now i type ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin |
| 21:04:19 | Mekrob | in the cmd or on the ipod |
| 21:04:52 | Soap | you don't type in "N" - you type in the number of your ipod you discovered earlier. |
| 21:05:04 | Mekrob | yah i know |
| 21:05:11 | Mekrob | im asking were i type it |
| 21:05:20 | Soap | and all of these commands get entered from the command prompt, none from the ipod. |
| 21:06:01 | Mekrob | damnit |
| 21:06:02 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:06:10 | Mekrob | i typed ipodpatcher -r 3 bootpartition.bin |
| 21:06:23 | Mekrob | and it said error opening the disk |
| 21:06:36 | Mekrob | but thatwas the one were the table appeared on |
| 21:06:46 | Mekrob | so isnt that the right one? |
| 21:07:52 | linuxstb | Does typing "ipodpatcher 3" still show the table? |
| 21:08:15 | Mekrob | nope |
| 21:08:26 | Mekrob | what happened |
| 21:08:56 | linuxstb | Did you do anything else on your computer since typing it the first time? |
| 21:09:10 | Mekrob | i typed the wrong number |
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| 21:16:38 | Mekrob | i got an error |
| 21:17:12 | Mekrob | help |
| 21:17:19 | Mekrob | how do i enter rockbox? |
| 21:17:24 | Mekrob | i got everything on |
| 21:17:32 | Mekrob | and i got error -1 |
| 21:17:44 | Mekrob | then it said loading original firmware |
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| 21:22:12 | Soap | sounds like you uploaded the bootloader, but didn't install the software itself. |
| 21:23:37 | Mekrob | how do i boot it so rockbox opens |
| 21:23:47 | Mekrob | if i hold play it shuts off |
| 21:24:03 | Mekrob | then when i press any button it opens apples firmware |
| 21:24:14 | Mekrob | how do i open rockbox? |
| 21:24:17 | Soap | did you install the firmware, or only the bootloader? |
| 21:24:42 | Mekrob | both |
| 21:24:56 | Mekrob | i extracted rockbox to E: |
| 21:25:04 | Mekrob | now how do i use it |
| 21:25:06 | Soap | e: being your ipod I assume |
| 21:25:09 | Mekrob | yes |
| 21:25:27 | Mekrob | when i safely remove it starts in apple firmware |
| 21:25:38 | Soap | so on E: you have a directory named ".rockbox"? |
| 21:26:31 | linuxstb | And a file called "rockbox.ipod" ? |
| 21:26:41 | Mekrob | yes |
| 21:26:56 | Mekrob | now what |
| 21:27:51 | linuxstb | The "error -1" message means that the Rockbox bootloader can't find "rockbox.ipod"... |
| 21:28:23 | Mekrob | yes i got that |
| 21:28:26 | Mekrob | i have it all on |
| 21:28:35 | Mekrob | now how do i boot up in rockbox |
| 21:28:43 | apo | Btw, does anybody have a clue why my rockbox (On a 4g iPod) always freezes randomly? |
| 21:29:08 | preglow | anyone know what are most efficient lossy codec is on ipods? |
| 21:29:09 | linuxstb | apo: Clues, yes. Solutions, no. |
| 21:29:15 | apo | Okay |
| 21:29:26 | linuxstb | AC3? |
| 21:29:31 | apo | And what about the data abort at <something>? :P |
| 21:29:32 | Mekrob | guys don't leave me now |
| 21:29:33 | preglow | probably |
| 21:29:35 | linuxstb | (I don't _know_) |
| 21:29:41 | preglow | me neither :/// |
| 21:29:46 | apo | [21:29:26] <linuxstb> AC3? < MP3 |
| 21:30:02 | Mekrob | GUYS HOW DO I BOOT UP IN ROCKBOX |
| 21:30:07 | apo | READ THE MANUAL |
| 21:30:13 | Mekrob | I DID |
| 21:30:29 | linuxstb | Do you mean you're stuck in the Apple firmware, or you are still getting the -1 error? |
| 21:30:37 | Soap | Mekrob - if everything you describe is true (and you installed a firmware correct for your hardware) then there shouldn't be a problem. |
| 21:31:06 | Mekrob | well i power off using play |
| 21:31:17 | linuxstb | No you don't - that just puts the ipod into a light sleep. |
| 21:31:25 | Mekrob | ok |
| 21:31:29 | Mekrob | then what do i do? |
| 21:31:30 | apo | "Simply hold Menu+Select until the screen clears, and then hold Select+Play until you enter disk mode. " |
| 21:32:00 | linuxstb | preglow: Any reason why you are asking? |
| 21:32:01 | apo | I guess you're at step g)? |
| 21:32:10 | preglow | linuxstb: friend of mine is wondering |
| 21:32:16 | preglow | and i honestly have no idea |
| 21:32:36 | preglow | i've got a clear idea about codecs on iriver, not ipod |
| 21:32:48 | Mekrob | woot |
| 21:32:55 | Mekrob | how do i play songs now |
| 21:33:13 | x1jmp | how can i see the current cpu usage in rockbox? |
| 21:33:40 | linuxstb | You can't really. The "view audio thread" debug screen is the closest. |
| 21:34:01 | linuxstb | That will tell you how much the CPU is boosting between the low and high speeds. |
| 21:34:25 | preglow | linuxstb: ac3 isn't overly efficient |
| 21:35:05 | linuxstb | I remember it being the fastest on the irivers before anything was optimised - but I don't think anyone has bothered to optimise AC3 so maybe it's been left behind. |
| 21:35:09 | Mekrob | how do i play songs in here |
| 21:35:19 | preglow | linuxstb: it is fast on iriver |
| 21:35:27 | preglow | but that's not much of an indication when it comes to ipods |
| 21:35:43 | linuxstb | Mekrob: Just select them from the file browser. Read the manual for more information on all of Rockbox's playback features - there are too many to describe. |
| 21:35:53 | x1jmp | so around 6% with 45MHz is very low, isn'it? |
| 21:35:59 | preglow | x1jmp: pretty low indeed |
| 21:36:02 | preglow | x1jmp: what codec? |
| 21:36:25 | x1jmp | preglow: mp3 |
| 21:36:34 | preglow | x1jmp: oh? bitrate? |
| 21:36:58 | x1jmp | preglow: 160kBit |
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| 21:41:05 | Mekrob | why are all my songs named like fga |
| 21:41:14 | Mekrob | my albums? |
| 21:41:25 | apo | Coz that's what iTunes does |
| 21:41:27 | Soap | I swear my ipod could probably scan/add replaygain tags faster than my K6-III :( |
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| 21:45:34 | linuxstb | preglow: I've just tried an AC3 file on my 5g and it seems dog-slow... About 90% boost. Although it is a 448kbit/s file (2.0 channels) |
| 21:45:44 | apo | <+apo> >_> Our crazy neighbour just walked like some dude in CS <+apo> Seriously |
| 21:45:45 | apo | <+apo> That guy's getting weirder every day <+apo> And he's talking to inanimate objects more often |
| 21:46:16 | apo | But at least he ain't singing anymore at 2am :P |
| 21:47:00 | preglow | linuxstb: i tried a 192kbps one, and that wasn't too fast either |
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| 21:48:49 | Mekrob | alright i looked at the manual |
| 21:49:01 | Mekrob | i have no idea how to use the file browser |
| 21:49:14 | Mekrob | and the manuel only covers iaudio and archos |
| 21:49:21 | Mekrob | i have a ipod 5g\ |
| 21:49:57 | dionoea | left right scroll up scroll down |
| 21:50:03 | dionoea | 4 keys to do every thing |
| 21:50:31 | Mekrob | how do i enter it |
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| 21:51:02 | dionoea | menu |
| 21:51:12 | linuxstb | The file browser is the first screen you see when Rockbox starts - it's the Rockbox "home screen". |
| 21:51:24 | linuxstb | Everything happens from the file browser. |
| 21:53:15 | linuxstb | If you would prefer to browse a database of your music, investigate TagCache (in the manual or the Rockbox website) |
| 21:53:29 | Mekrob | how do i turn it off in rockbox |
| 21:53:53 | linuxstb | Hold PLAY for a few seconds. In Rockbox it really does shut down. |
| 21:53:55 | dionoea | did you even try doing like in apple firmware ? |
| 21:54:06 | Soap | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060703.pdf is an G5 ipod manual. |
| 21:54:25 | Mekrob | yah im looking at one now |
| 21:58:43 | Mekrob | how do i enter file browser all i see is salendar contacts and notes |
| 21:58:48 | Mekrob | calendar |
| 21:59:29 | Soap | those are the directories in the root of your ipod. |
| 21:59:48 | Soap | that is the file browser. |
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| 22:00:08 | Mekrob | well were are my songs |
| 22:00:56 | markun | Mekrob: I thought you didn't want to use rockbox for music anyway.. |
| 22:01:01 | Soap | the songs you just moved over, or the songs you used with the apple firmware? |
| 22:01:49 | Mekrob | markun:i dont know how to shut it down in rock box lol nor boot back up in apple firmware |
| 22:01:55 | markun | Mekrob: did you read this? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 22:01:59 | Mekrob | yes |
| 22:02:07 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav |
| 22:02:08 | Mekrob | im reading the manual though |
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| 22:02:36 | apo | I wonder what marks Mekrob got in school @ reading comprehension :p *runs away* |
| 22:03:20 | Mekrob | dude stfu |
| 22:03:41 | Mekrob | i can read, im just not very good at using technology |
| 22:04:24 | markun | Mekrob: don't worry, he was joking (but I guess you knew that) |
| 22:04:50 | linuxstb | Mekrob: Also, you managed to install Rockbox without any problems - which is more than a lot of people manage... |
| 22:04:52 | markun | Rockbox is a bit oriented at technical people I think |
| 22:05:01 | Mekrob | well its irritating getting made fun of by a twelve year old while your trying to ask questions |
| 22:05:15 | Mekrob | i could see if i was being an ass to you guys but im being nice |
| 22:05:35 | Mekrob | well i just want rockbox for doom thats all |
| 22:05:40 | Mekrob | and the games |
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| 22:05:49 | markun | Mekrob: but you also have to understand that we get a bit tired sometimes because people keep asking the same questions and we think we explained it pretty well in the FAQ |
| 22:05:54 | Mekrob | and possibly black glass |
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| 22:06:29 | Mekrob | well i am not asking for you to spend your time on it if you know of a link you could post it |
| 22:06:37 | Mekrob | i'm fine with reading on my own |
| 22:06:58 | Mekrob | im just having trouble and i know that you guys have rockbox so i thought you could possibly help me |
| 22:07:19 | markun | Mekrob: ok, no problem then. If you find anything that is unclear in FAQ you can help to make it better |
| 22:07:35 | webguest62 | is there any chance of the Rockboy viewer being ported to Ondio? |
| 22:07:53 | webguest62 | seeing that the screen is the same size as Archos Recorder |
| 22:08:18 | markun | webguest62: it's also not ported to the Archos Recorder |
| 22:08:18 | linuxstb | The problem is the lack of buttons. It also doesn't work very well on the Archos Recorder (too slow) |
| 22:08:32 | webguest62 | Ondio has a faster CPU than Recorder |
| 22:08:34 | markun | linuxstb: is the ondio fast enough? |
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| 22:09:07 | linuxstb | I doubt it. Even the irivers are struggling to get realtime emulation afaik. |
| 22:09:27 | webguest62 | Ondio is 11.05 MHZ, the Ondio CPU is 12 MHZ |
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| 22:09:57 | preglow | negligable |
| 22:10:04 | preglow | it's _far_ too little |
| 22:10:18 | preglow | you will never see realtime gameboy emulation on those players |
| 22:10:39 | linuxstb | webguest62: You could try it. I don't think it would be much work to get working - just a case of adding the button mappings. |
| 22:10:40 | webguest62 | the Recorder version of Rockboy doesn't have sound |
| 22:10:47 | webguest62 | and that adds speed |
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| 22:10:55 | preglow | not enough by far |
| 22:11:02 | preglow | just emulating the cpu alone will be a tremendous task |
| 22:11:20 | markun | webguest62: which Recorder version? |
| 22:11:38 | webguest62 | FM |
| 22:11:54 | linuxstb | markun: Rockboy is working on the Recorders... (amiconn ported it iirc) |
| 22:12:04 | markun | wow! |
| 22:12:16 | linuxstb | But slowly... |
| 22:12:16 | markun | I'll shut up then.. |
| 22:12:33 | linuxstb | Check the wiki :) http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy |
| 22:12:52 | webguest62 | I'm not a programmer, but I'd guess like linuxstb said, just the keymappings of the Recorder version of Rockboy need to be changed for an Ondio port |
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| 22:14:55 | webguest62 | Like it's been said, Ondio has a shortage of buttons |
| 22:15:17 | webguest62 | maybe for Gameboy emulation, either A or B can be doubled up with the power switch |
| 22:15:34 | webguest62 | and only an extended press on the power switch would bring up the menu |
| 22:16:05 | webguest62 | and it's not like every Gameboy game utilizes both A and B anyways |
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| 22:18:19 | linuxstb | Curious email to the mailing list - installing the Rockbox bootloader makes audible books disappear... |
| 22:18:26 | linuxstb | (on ipods) |
| 22:19:17 | Soap | in the apple firmware under the audible books catagory? |
| 22:19:22 | markun | linuxstb: yes, strange |
| 22:19:27 | linuxstb | That's what the email says... |
| 22:19:29 | Soap | a sneeze makes them disapear from there. |
| 22:19:42 | linuxstb | But restoring the original bootpartition.bin makes them reappear... |
| 22:19:44 | Soap | coincidence I bet. I can't keep them there for the life of me. |
| 22:20:01 | Soap | now that is beyond coincidence, I eat my words. |
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| 22:21:22 | | Part webguest62 |
| 22:21:58 | preglow | linuxstb: fancy |
| 22:22:44 | preglow | linuxstb: don't overwrite anything, do we? |
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| 22:26:56 | linuxstb | Not knowlingly... |
| 22:27:31 | apo | Meh... moved my files on my iPod into a decent folder structure, now rockbox won't play anything |
| 22:27:41 | linuxstb | But from the sound of it, it could just as likely be a quirk in Apple's firmware unrelated to Rockbox. |
| 22:27:43 | Mekrob | hey i was looking at the manual because i want to install blackglass |
| 22:27:43 | apo | Is there a limit to the length of filenames? |
| 22:27:48 | linuxstb | apo: Using tagcache? |
| 22:27:52 | apo | Nah |
| 22:27:55 | Mekrob | but it says it must be in wps format |
| 22:27:59 | apo | I opened a file |
| 22:28:05 | Mekrob | but its in gz |
| 22:28:08 | apo | And it only shows the filename as title |
| 22:28:08 | linuxstb | apo: Maximum filename length is 255 bytes. |
| 22:28:11 | apo | And doesn't play... |
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| 22:28:58 | apo | Music/Hair/Hair/CD 01 - 01 - Somefilename.mp3 |
| 22:29:01 | apo | Not really 255 |
| 22:29:13 | linuxstb | apo: How did you move the files? Did you use a program to rename and retag them? |
| 22:29:25 | apo | Yeah, I used foobar2000 |
| 22:29:37 | apo | For moving and renaming |
| 22:29:45 | Mekrob | HOW DO I INSTALL A WPS THAT IS IN THE GZ FORMAT |
| 22:29:49 | Mekrob | sorry for caps |
| 22:30:14 | apo | unpack it? |
| 22:30:20 | Mekrob | how |
| 22:30:24 | Mekrob | i cant open a gz |
| 22:30:27 | linuxstb | Mekrob: What is the full name of the file you downloaded? |
| 22:30:58 | Mekrob | jBlackglass-ipodvideo-200606 |
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| 22:32:07 | linuxstb | So it's "jBlackglass-ipodvideo-200606.gz" ? |
| 22:32:08 | Mekrob | linux: what do i do? |
| 22:32:12 | Mekrob | yes |
| 22:32:34 | * | apo tries updating tagcache |
| 22:33:51 | linuxstb | Mekrob: Are you sure it's not jBlackGlass-ipodvideo-20060612.tar.gz ? |
| 22:34:51 | Mekrob | ill check |
| 22:34:58 | Soap | Mekrob - .gz is a archive |
| 22:35:09 | Mekrob | jBlackGlass-ipodvideo-20060612.tar.gz |
| 22:35:22 | Soap | there is an excellent forum thread on the blackglass theme, as it is not the simplest one to install. |
| 22:35:41 | Soap | for you need to use his custom build to run the theme. |
| 22:36:00 | Mekrob | ah |
| 22:36:01 | linuxstb | winzip should handle .tar.gz files |
| 22:36:03 | Mekrob | never mind |
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| 22:36:33 | Mekrob | i cant take going through all that again |
| 22:36:37 | apo | Ah |
| 22:36:42 | Soap | if winzip won't do .tar.gz then the excellent (and free) 7zip will. |
| 22:36:47 | apo | Now that tagcache's updated it's working again |
| 22:37:53 | linuxstb | So it seems Rockbox uses tagcache even when playing files from the file browser? (if it's been built) |
| 22:38:05 | apo | Dunno |
| 22:38:09 | Soap | would someone please say "Soap" - I'm not sure I have my IRC client set up right. |
| 22:38:11 | apo | Perhaps it was just the reboot |
| 22:38:16 | apo | Soap |
| 22:38:18 | Soap | ty |
| 22:38:22 | apo | np |
| 22:38:56 | apo | Anyway, why would rockbox not be able to play _any_ file, even if it doesn't know the tags? That doesn't make sense. |
| 22:39:04 | apo | But whatever, it's working now. ^^ |
| 22:39:09 | Soap | odd |
| 22:44:08 | x1jmp | is it normal that button_get(true) returns immediately if no button is pressed? |
| 22:44:25 | | Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:46:11 | linuxstb | x1jmp: I thought it should block until a button is pressed. |
| 22:46:32 | linuxstb | Maybe there are old button events in the queue? |
| 22:47:07 | Mekrob | it wont let me stop my ipod? |
| 22:47:10 | Mekrob | why |
| 22:47:38 | linuxstb | What are you trying to do? |
| 22:48:06 | x1jmp | linuxstb: i don't know how the button queue works, but shouldn't button_get() wait until a new button is pressed? |
| 22:48:26 | Mekrob | "the device ' generic volume' cannot be stopped right now. Try stopping the device later. |
| 22:48:35 | linuxstb | x1jmp: No, it will just return the next button in the queue. |
| 22:48:40 | Mekrob | i am trying to safely remove it |
| 22:49:04 | linuxstb | ^next button event in the queue |
| 22:49:14 | Mekrob | hello.... |
| 22:49:21 | Mekrob | i kinda need to take it out |
| 22:49:54 | Mekrob | how do i stop it??????????????? |
| 22:50:02 | linuxstb | Mekrob: It's nothing to do with Rockbox - your ipod is running Apple's firmware at the moment. |
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| 22:50:45 | Mekrob | its in rockbox firmware |
| 22:50:59 | linuxstb | What does it display on the screen? |
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| 22:51:21 | Mekrob | do not disconnect |
| 22:51:36 | dionoea | using linux ? |
| 22:51:38 | linuxstb | That's Apple's firmware. When you insert a USB cable. Rockbox will reboot into Apple's disk mode. |
| 22:51:50 | Mekrob | no its not it is not the same thing |
| 22:51:58 | Mekrob | it has a different look then apples |
| 22:51:59 | linuxstb | OK, you're right. |
| 22:52:08 | * | linuxstb goes away |
| 22:52:12 | Mekrob | appples is red |
| 22:52:17 | Mekrob | this is black and white |
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| 22:52:55 | * | dionoea thinks that linuxstb being a senior rockbox dev doesn't know what he's talking about and that Mekrob must be right |
| 22:53:24 | Mekrob | well im saying that it is not the same screen |
| 22:53:46 | Mekrob | so if he cant see my screen how does he know |
| 22:54:05 | Mekrob | and i heard i cant just pull the plug from the ipod |
| 22:54:11 | Mekrob | or it fudges it all up |
| 22:55:12 | Mekrob | what do i do? i have to go back to my house? |
| 22:55:18 | Mekrob | how do i disconnect it |
| 22:55:35 | Soap | is your antivirus scanner running in the background and scanning files on the ipod while it is in disk mode? |
| 22:56:06 | Mekrob | im not sure |
| 22:56:13 | Mekrob | i don't think so |
| 22:56:22 | Mekrob | im not sure he even has an antivirus |
| 22:56:29 | Soap | do you have any other programs (malicious?) running in the background that would be accessing the drive? Does Microsoft indexing service interfer with removable storage ejection? |
| 22:56:43 | Mekrob | alll i have open is opera |
| 22:57:35 | Mekrob | what do i do gurus? |
| 22:57:42 | Mekrob | i cant just take out the plug |
| 22:59:47 | Mekrob | so no one out of 112 people has any idea to help me? |
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| 23:00:44 | klrspz | just disconnect |
| 23:00:50 | dionoea | well actually it was 111 people |
| 23:00:51 | klrspz | i've never had any problems |
| 23:01:09 | Mekrob | i physically can't |
| 23:01:18 | Mekrob | it says i cannot stop it at this time |
| 23:01:25 | klrspz | pull the cable |
| 23:01:26 | dionoea | that's not physical |
| 23:01:29 | klrspz | that's physical |
| 23:01:29 | dionoea | that's software |
| 23:01:39 | dionoea | klrspz: i was talking to Mekrob |
| 23:01:43 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:01:46 | klrspz | so was i :) |
| 23:01:58 | dionoea | oh, hehe :) |
| 23:02:00 | Mekrob | if i pull it it screws it up |
| 23:02:02 | Mekrob | its a fact |
| 23:02:05 | klrspz | is it? |
| 23:02:09 | klrspz | then why are you asking |
| 23:02:15 | Mekrob | i just got it today and im not ruining it now |
| 23:02:28 | klrspz | unless you run it over with a mack truck, you can't ruin it |
| 23:02:29 | Mekrob | because i want to know what to do |
| 23:02:49 | dionoea | if you're so scared just shut the computer down and then unplug |
| 23:02:51 | klrspz | plus, if you just got it today, it has at least 15 day in-store wrranty |
| 23:02:59 | Soap | this is your friends XP install? |
| 23:03:00 | Mekrob | i dont want to have to reset it after i just spent coutless hours installing it |
| 23:03:02 | dionoea | and print the manual and read it thouroughly |
| 23:03:03 | klrspz | and probably 90 from the manufacturer |
| 23:03:10 | Mekrob | rockkbox etc |
| 23:03:13 | klrspz | it took you hours to install rockbox? |
| 23:03:17 | Mekrob | yes |
| 23:03:23 | klrspz | then i advise you return the device |
| 23:03:23 | Mekrob | i suck at this |
| 23:03:40 | klrspz | rockbox was by far the easiest mod to any device i've ever done |
| 23:03:51 | klrspz | and by far, i mean it's in a completely different category |
| 23:03:57 | Mekrob | well thank you all so much for being arrogant asses its alot harder to insult someone than it is to try and help |
| 23:04:01 | Mekrob | thank you soap |
| 23:04:07 | Mekrob | you were helpful |
| 23:04:11 | Mekrob | bye |
| 23:04:11 | klrspz | not really, but i've already said unplug it |
| 23:04:30 | klrspz | it's not a fact that it'll mes sit up.. as i've already said i disconnect when it says not to all the time |
| 23:04:33 | Mekrob | i told you several times NOT AN OPTION |
| 23:04:37 | Bagder | the amount of spam is getting boring |
| 23:04:46 | preglow | indeed |
| 23:05:03 | klrspz | well then, the only option you have is to take a hammer to it.. you don't want to do it, then there's nothing else to do |
| 23:05:14 | Mekrob | see right there |
| 23:05:22 | klrspz | dude, unplug the damn cable |
| 23:05:26 | klrspz | quit crying |
| 23:05:31 | Mekrob | you could have just sat there and shut up if you cant contribute |
| 23:05:40 | Mekrob | but you chose to be an ass |
| 23:05:43 | Mekrob | why? |
| 23:05:43 | Bagder | now now |
| 23:05:49 | Bagder | be nice |
| 23:05:56 | Mekrob | im just asking for help |
| 23:06:02 | Bagder | yes yes over and over |
| 23:06:03 | Mekrob | hes being a di** about it |
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| 23:06:15 | dionoea | and you're not listening |
| 23:06:23 | klrspz | i am contributing... as a poor associate to impecible statements, you can only do what people are saying |
| 23:06:25 | Mekrob | because i cant believe 113 people have never had this problem |
| 23:06:42 | klrspz | take a risk |
| 23:06:46 | Mekrob | i am listening but i told you i will not pull the plug |
| 23:06:53 | Bagder | I doubt 113 people (in here) even had the same hw you have |
| 23:06:55 | klrspz | then, we told you, there's nothing else you can do |
| 23:07:00 | * | dionoea always unplugs his ipod with the "do not disconect" screen on |
| 23:07:01 | Bagder | and most of the 113 are idle |
| 23:07:04 | Mekrob | im not risking it on something i just saved up for months |
| 23:07:05 | klrspz | if the OS will not detatch the device, there's nothing you can do |
| 23:07:11 | Soap | Mekrob - this is your friends XP install? |
| 23:07:17 | klrspz | Mekrob, how old are you? 13? |
| 23:07:18 | Mekrob | yes |
| 23:07:22 | Mekrob | 16\ |
| 23:07:23 | dionoea | if it goes wrong you can still format the hard drive and start again |
| 23:07:24 | Soap | is he a nerd? |
| 23:07:27 | Mekrob | 17 tomorrow |
| 23:07:29 | Mekrob | no |
| 23:07:31 | klrspz | so drive down to the store if it breaks |
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| 23:07:34 | klrspz | swap it out |
| 23:07:35 | Mekrob | i cant |
| 23:07:37 | klrspz | it's not rocket science |
| 23:07:39 | linuxstb | Mekrob: Try shutting down the PC. |
| 23:07:40 | Mekrob | i don't have a permit |
| 23:07:43 | Mekrob | not legal |
| 23:07:47 | klrspz | so walk, ride a bike, whatever |
| 23:08:06 | klrspz | hitchhike, i don't care... if you're THAT worried about the damn thing breaking, take the reciept back to the store and swap it |
| 23:08:06 | Mekrob | god i wish i could ignore people in operas irc z.z |
| 23:08:16 | apo | ... Just unplug the effing cable |
| 23:08:17 | Mekrob | i bought it online! |
| 23:08:21 | Soap | I believe write caching is disabled by default for removable media on XP (someone?) so then if you are sure nothing is running (itunes perhaps?) pull the plug, it's a quirk. |
| 23:08:23 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 23:08:27 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:08:37 | klrspz | Mekrob, if it breaks, i'll send you my 1gb nanopod.. how's that |
| 23:08:59 | Mekrob | im going to listen to linux |
| 23:09:02 | Mekrob | gbye |
| 23:09:06 | apo | klrspz: You have to add "As long as you send me yours" |
| 23:09:06 | apo | :P |
| 23:09:10 | klrspz | Soap, i do believe so |
| 23:09:17 | klrspz | apo, no, cuz i know it won't break |
| 23:09:25 | apo | Soap: I think so, too. |
| 23:09:29 | apo | I never disabled that option. |
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| 23:09:47 | klrspz | at least on mass storage i know it is |
| 23:10:14 | Soap | then if itunes isn't running in the background syncing...he should pull it. |
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| 23:10:32 | apo | No shit :P |
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| 23:11:32 | klrspz | even if it was, all it'd do is mess up that record in the db.. at least that's all it'd ever do to mine |
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| 23:12:11 | klrspz | i'm so far from removed from worrying about flash memory being corrupted |
| 23:12:28 | klrspz | s/from// |
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| 23:13:01 | linuxstb | Bagder: (or anyone else) Any objections to adding "rockbox-full.zip" to the "make clean" rule ? rockbox.zip is already there. |
| 23:13:13 | Bagder | nope, go ahead |
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| 23:13:51 | sharpe | hoo-rah. |
| 23:14:06 | scorche | sharpei! |
| 23:14:40 | apo | I fail at real life :P /me doesn't know where to find the social court in his city |
| 23:14:48 | apo | Hi sharpe |
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| 23:15:01 | apo | (google maps ftw) |
| 23:15:01 | sharpe | 'lo everyone. |
| 23:15:06 | sharpe | wow. great timing... |
| 23:15:08 | apo | Hi Paul |
| 23:15:18 | scorche | ahem... |
| 23:15:23 | scorche | <scorche> sharpei! |
| 23:15:31 | sharpe | <sharpe> 'lo everyone. |
| 23:15:36 | midkay | just like the dog! |
| 23:15:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Sounds like a good idea to me (the make clean thing) |
| 23:15:51 | scorche | =D |
| 23:16:05 | sharpe | feels like a repeat of yesterday... hmm.. |
| 23:16:22 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Good, it's committed now :) |
| 23:16:34 | preglow | Bagder: what about the ellipsis? |
| 23:16:43 | preglow | Bagder: did you replace them with dots? |
| 23:16:54 | Bagder | which ellipsis? |
| 23:17:02 | preglow | in the translation you just commited |
| 23:17:30 | preglow | he uses the unicode symbol for '...' which i don't believe our fonts have |
| 23:17:51 | sharpe | oh no! |
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| 23:18:20 | midkay | oh yeeeeeeeeahh! |
| 23:18:24 | Bagder | I think I consider that a bad idea |
| 23:18:40 | sharpe | kool-aid man. |
| 23:18:46 | midkay | good job. |
| 23:18:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | The ...s being one character, or replacing them, is bad? |
| 23:18:59 | preglow | it's a good idea all in all |
| 23:19:02 | Bagder | I think the depending on that unicode char is a bad idea |
| 23:19:04 | preglow | but our fonts don't have it |
| 23:19:05 | apo | THem being one character, I guess |
| 23:19:12 | apo | Them* |
| 23:19:13 | preglow | so for our use, it should be replaced with three dots |
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| 23:19:20 | Bagder | yep |
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| 23:19:52 | Mekrob | how do i boot in apple firmware. im aware that it is in the manual but i have to leave now and this is easier |
| 23:20:11 | klrspz | hold menu while it boots up |
| 23:20:15 | preglow | translation is good quality apart from that |
| 23:20:19 | preglow | as far as i could see |
| 23:20:33 | Mekrob | didnt work |
| 23:20:42 | sharpe | keep trying. |
| 23:20:43 | midkay | firmly and do not move your finger at all.. |
| 23:20:53 | sharpe | and be sure it's as soon as possible |
| 23:20:57 | sharpe | that you press it. |
| 23:20:59 | midkay | huh? |
| 23:21:00 | Mekrob | didnt work |
| 23:21:03 | midkay | you just hold it. |
| 23:21:05 | Mekrob | ive done it thrice |
| 23:21:13 | apo | Keep trying |
| 23:21:14 | midkay | Mekrob, then try tapping and tehn holding it.. |
| 23:21:19 | midkay | quickly. |
| 23:21:28 | midkay | click, release, hold. |
| 23:21:32 | scorche | Mekrob: technically, you hit menu, release, and then continue to hold |
| 23:21:34 | scorche | bah you |
| 23:21:37 | Mekrob | nope |
| 23:21:43 | midkay | yep, it just takes practice. |
| 23:21:45 | klrspz | ... |
| 23:21:46 | scorche | it takes a bit of practice ;0 |
| 23:21:51 | scorche | midkay: grr! |
| 23:21:54 | midkay | :) |
| 23:21:55 | klrspz | all together now |
| 23:21:58 | midkay | hehehe. |
| 23:21:59 | midkay | i own you. |
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| 23:22:07 | Mekrob | god |
| 23:22:14 | Mekrob | this is not working |
| 23:22:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mekrob: What type of iPod? |
| 23:22:18 | Mekrob | i press menu |
| 23:22:20 | Mekrob | let go |
| 23:22:22 | Mekrob | hold it |
| 23:22:30 | Mekrob | and it doesnt work |
| 23:22:33 | Mekrob | 5g |
| 23:22:38 | midkay | Mekrob, it must be *quick*. but not *too* quick.. like just before the apple logo comes up. |
| 23:22:39 | sharpe | how long are you holding it? |
| 23:22:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mekrob: If you delete or rename rockbox.ipod, and reboot, does it go into the Apple firmware? |
| 23:22:56 | midkay | and continue to hold it until the bootloader says "loading rockbox" or "loading original firmware". |
| 23:23:12 | Mekrob | i hold it down till i see that rockbox is loading |
| 23:23:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mekrob: Hold it down until it says "Loading Original Firmware" |
| 23:23:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | It will show *some* of the Rockbox stuff |
| 23:23:51 | Mekrob | it keeps loading rock box |
| 23:24:10 | midkay | then you just aren't timing it right.. |
| 23:24:16 | midkay | it's quite picky. |
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| 23:24:49 | apo | Not really... it's always worked for me |
| 23:24:58 | Mekrob | thisis stupid. id be quite perturbed if i had to removerockbox because of this |
| 23:25:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mekrob: So if you use the menu button to turn it on, and keep holding it *never* letting go, it still gets all the way into rockbox? |
| 23:25:15 | linuxstb | Mekrob: On my 5g, I hold PLAY to turn the ipod off from within Rockbox. Then I press MENU and keep it pressed until the "Loading original firmware" message comes on - works every time for me. |
| 23:25:17 | Mekrob | yup |
| 23:25:22 | Soap | pratice makes perfect (not to be an ass) |
| 23:25:32 | linuxstb | Mekrob: Just make sure you don't move your finger at all. |
| 23:25:32 | klrspz | you ass |
| 23:25:36 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, don't forget the fact that you need to not move your finger at all.. |
| 23:25:38 | midkay | haha. |
| 23:25:45 | midkay | haha. argh. |
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| 23:25:55 | midkay | linuxstb beats midkay beats scorche. :) |
| 23:25:56 | sharpe | midkay: but what if you have parkinson's? :\ |
| 23:26:05 | klrspz | lol |
| 23:26:08 | scorche | hehe |
| 23:26:11 | klrspz | cold |
| 23:26:12 | Mekrob | ok it says loading original |
| 23:26:13 | Mekrob | yayy |
| 23:26:23 | apo | Wow... |
| 23:26:32 | Mekrob | alright g2g thank you al and sorry for my pissy attitutde |
| 23:26:35 | midkay | haha. |
| 23:26:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's the point in apologizing for it? |
| 23:27:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you know you're doing it, then stop. |
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| 23:27:09 | midkay | haha. |
| 23:27:19 | apo | ~_~ |
| 23:27:20 | midkay | owned_on_the_way_out(); |
| 23:27:21 | sharpe | well midkay? what if? huh? c'mon midkay? |
| 23:27:29 | midkay | huh? |
| 23:27:36 | sharpe | <sharpe> midkay: but what if you have parkinson's? :\ |
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| 23:27:44 | midkay | then you OVERRIDE it. |
| 23:27:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: It seems to just be that the iPod forgets you're holding down a key if it picks up scrolls. |
| 23:27:52 | apo | If he has no fucking clue about PC stuff... why does he even know about linux? |
| 23:27:54 | sharpe | Paul_The_Nerd: i know :) |
| 23:27:57 | apo | This is disturbing me |
| 23:27:59 | Soap | who, who said scorche. That's what Rockbox needs. Scorched Earth. |
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| 23:28:10 | scorche | oh hell yes |
| 23:28:11 | klrspz | fuck yeah |
| 23:28:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: I have a little cover over my scrollwheel with a ridge. I can use it to press down buttons without actually touching the surface. :) |
| 23:28:28 | klrspz | i'd wear my battery out 10x a day if i had SE for my nanopod |
| 23:28:44 | sharpe | heh... the cover i have has everything covered but the scrollwheel. |
| 23:29:17 | Soap | I just use screen protectors from my PalmPilot to cover the scoll wheel. |
| 23:29:27 | sharpe | oh and by the way everyone, i still have yet to clean the sand off my ipod's cover. just thought i'd let everyone know. |
| 23:29:41 | dionoea | sharpe: thanks for telling us :) |
| 23:29:47 | sharpe | dionoea: any time. |
| 23:29:52 | midkay | you already said "by the way everyone". the ending "thought i'd let everyone know" was redundant and WORTHLESS. |
| 23:30:03 | klrspz | oh snap |
| 23:30:06 | sharpe | midkay: just like you? :) |
| 23:30:17 | midkay | and in fact the information contained in your "message" as it were was totally USELESS to everyone. |
| 23:30:18 | scorche | no...just like the dog! |
| 23:30:24 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 23:30:37 | scorche | sharPEI! |
| 23:30:44 | midkay | like the poodle! |
| 23:30:46 | sharpe | the dog is Sharp Pei |
| 23:30:53 | sharpe | oh no. |
| 23:30:54 | scorche | so? |
| 23:30:57 | sharpe | i pressed a 'p' |
| 23:31:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Speaking of stuff on screens, I got a new TV and there's a thumbprint on the screen. And there's a cover-thing over the screen. And I cannot figure out how to remove the cover to wipe off the thumbprint. |
| 23:31:10 | scorche | wikipedia indexes it as sharpei not shar pei |
| 23:31:17 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, haha. owned. |
| 23:31:24 | sharpe | the rest of the world has 'shar pei' |
| 23:31:26 | midkay | scorche, no, sharpei is a redirect to Shar Pei. |
| 23:31:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm obsessive-compulsive about smudges on screens, so it's driving me nuts. |
| 23:31:34 | midkay | sharpei works here anyways. |
| 23:31:41 | midkay | he's a DOG, who cares how you spell his name! |
| 23:31:46 | scorche | midkay: yes, but in the url, it says shar pei...not shar_pei |
| 23:31:48 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd, hm.. that sucks. |
| 23:31:57 | midkay | what?.. |
| 23:31:57 | scorche | errr |
| 23:32:04 | scorche | says sharpei not shar_pei |
| 23:32:12 | sharpe | actually i got the name 'sharpe' because i was looking at a sharpie at the time, and didn't want to infringe on a trademark. so hah. :\ |
| 23:32:14 | midkay | that's if you go to the Sharpei page. |
| 23:32:20 | midkay | wikipedia doesn't change the url for redirects. |
| 23:32:37 | midkay | so if you get redirected from Sharpei to Shar Pei, the url will still say Sharpei. alright?! |
| 23:32:44 | scorche | midkay: stop arguing!....point is, is that sharpe is likethe dog! |
| 23:32:51 | midkay | yes! |
| 23:33:11 | sharpe | scorche and midkay hate me. |
| 23:33:29 | midkay | s/scorche and midkay/everyone/ - s/hate/hates/ |
| 23:33:34 | midkay | just kidding! ;D |
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| 23:33:47 | scorche | or is he? |
| 23:34:36 | leftright | sharpe, midkay, scorche its becomming a bit stale this banter of yours |
| 23:34:49 | midkay | leftright, you're welcome not to read it.. :) |
| 23:34:52 | * | scorche frowns |
| 23:35:09 | scorche | well, we could go over to #sharpei and discuss it |
| 23:35:12 | midkay | in fact you might not even need to keep the channel open while we're around. |
| 23:35:14 | klrspz | sfw:: http://www.b0g.org/wsnm/uploads/00028956.jpg |
| 23:35:17 | leftright | every night kids :> |
| 23:35:27 | midkay | haha. |
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| 23:35:48 | midkay | 'kids'. i'm offended. |
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| 23:35:58 | midkay | what if i called you 'old man'. huh. |
| 23:36:14 | scorche | midkay: but, you are a kid >_> |
| 23:36:24 | midkay | depends on your definition of a kid! |
| 23:36:26 | sharpe | midkay: that period after the quotation mark should've been a comma before the quotation mark. |
| 23:36:49 | midkay | no, it was the end of a sentence. |
| 23:36:58 | sharpe | in fact that last period should've been a question mark... |
| 23:37:12 | midkay | technically it could have been, but in this case i'm using a certain writing style. |
| 23:37:22 | sharpe | right... |
| 23:37:34 | leftright | you guys really aren't contributing much to this channel besides spam |
| 23:37:38 | midkay | so... why'd you even mention it. |
| 23:37:45 | midkay | leftright, thanks for letting us know.. |
| 23:38:01 | leftright | anytime, beware of the lurking boot |
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| 23:38:08 | scorche | actually, we contribute quite a lot to this channel >_> |
| 23:38:27 | midkay | he's using the irc applet?.. such a regular. :) |
| 23:38:51 | sharpe | we do answer questions people have when they ask them and we're around... |
| 23:39:29 | midkay | yes, and when there'd normally be silence for several hours we take advantage of the availability of the channel and flood it with kiddy insults and spam! now somebody please tell me what is wrong with that. |
| 23:39:33 | scorche | sharpe: he is gone now...pick up your wrinkles and move on |
| 23:39:39 | midkay | haha. |
| 23:39:51 | Bagder | midkay: 1) it fills logs 2) it prevents some people from asking |
| 23:40:43 | scorche | he has a point with '1' >_> |
| 23:41:07 | klrspz | my logs rotate :) |
| 23:41:24 | preglow | inane banter ratio certainly seems to have gone up |
| 23:41:58 | klrspz | eh.. it's something to kill the time whilst we wait for RB 3.0 :) |
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| 23:42:20 | midkay | Bagder, we have a channel topic for a reason - how about "if you have a question, ignore the idiots and feel free to ask!"? :) |
| 23:42:59 | midkay | oh. and. never use a messy recipe. the cake will end up CRAZY. you've gotta do the cooking by the book! |
| 23:43:21 | dionoea | are there many release critical bugs remaining before 3.0 ? |
| 23:43:26 | preglow | no |
| 23:43:34 | dionoea | oh ... ok :) |
| 23:43:36 | scorche | midkay: ... |
| 23:43:43 | midkay | oh. sorry. |
| 23:43:46 | mirak | hi |
| 23:43:51 | sharpe | hello |
| 23:43:56 | mirak | was some work done on automatic gain for recording ? |
| 23:44:04 | mirak | to avoid distortion |
| 23:44:05 | preglow | there's a huge patch on the tracker |
| 23:44:10 | preglow | so yes |
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| 23:45:07 | * | dionoea guesses that CVS i going to be a mess the day after 3.0 is released |
| 23:45:35 | midkay | i think daniel may have an IRC notification set up for a certain word, so i'd like to test it. 'spam'. |
| 23:45:36 | linuxstb | We'll be using SVN by then... |
| 23:45:56 | dionoea | hehe |
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| 23:46:14 | Bagder | midkay: you shouldn't trigger it without cause... |
| 23:46:20 | dionoea | so you're planing on releasing when dukenukem for ever comes out ? |
| 23:46:25 | Bagder | or is there any new? |
| 23:46:44 | sharpe | Bagder: maybe he's going to talk about his email spam... |
| 23:46:48 | midkay | Bagder, no, in fact i was completely unsure if that even worked, but i was curious and wanted to give it a try. apologies if it caused any inconvenience. |
| 23:47:11 | Bagder | it doesn't really "work" but I do work quite a bit on the spam removal front these days |
| 23:47:33 | midkay | Bagder, i noticed, that's what sparked my curiosity. :) |
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| 23:48:10 | midkay | oh, by the way.. two small pretty offtopic things.. the forums page doesn't have the little URL-icon that rockbox.org pages have.. |
| 23:48:20 | Bagder | tell Jeff |
| 23:48:26 | midkay | and at the forums page there's no leftside link to "forums". |
| 23:48:26 | Bagder | :-) |
| 23:48:31 | midkay | both jeff issues? :) |
| 23:48:49 | Bagder | yes, he runs the host and admins the server |
| 23:49:06 | midkay | alright. :) |
| 23:49:09 | Bagder | for the forums |
| 23:49:46 | sharpe | i need to figure out why this isn't printing a string... |
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| 23:53:02 | Soap | on that theme, clicking the Rockbox logo doesn't take you back to the homepage as on many other sites. |
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| 23:58:26 | Soap | last time I'll ask. Can someone please say soap (testing highlighting which wasn't working) |
| 23:58:33 | sharpe | soap . |
| 23:58:46 | Soap | dang |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).