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| 00:00:19 | mirak | petur: I guess the cliping flashligt hve something to do with that but I am not sure what it does |
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| 00:01:43 | petur | cliplight is already in CVS for some time |
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| 00:01:56 | mirak | I don't know what it's supposed to do then |
| 00:02:01 | mirak | because screen is always on |
| 00:02:04 | apo | soap |
| 00:02:16 | Soap | aha |
| 00:02:20 | mirak | petur: I guess it's supposed to warn you when you go out of range |
| 00:02:21 | apo | Working? |
| 00:02:25 | Soap | yea |
| 00:02:29 | apo | Wai :) |
| 00:03:28 | mirak | it light up when you saturate recording |
| 00:03:36 | mirak | but it doesn't light off after a long time |
| 00:03:39 | mirak | very long time |
| 00:04:00 | petur | mirak: cliplight will (if enabled) turn on the backlight if the clip indicator comes on. So if you have a huge clip indicator time, it will stay on long |
| 00:04:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does it user your backlight timeout or something? |
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| 00:04:23 | petur | it also uses the backlight setting too |
| 00:04:36 | mirak | Paul_The_Nerd: no it doesn't, it probably have it's own timming |
| 00:04:36 | preglow | petur: i had the impression it was |
| 00:04:40 | preglow | never tried it :> |
| 00:04:41 | preglow | anyway |
| 00:04:42 | preglow | gotta bed |
| 00:04:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK preglow |
| 00:04:42 | preglow | later |
| 00:04:48 | mirak | because I have 5 seconds of backlight |
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| 00:05:30 | petur | in fact, cliplight is implemented very easy: turn on backlight if clip indicator visible. so total backlight time = clip indicator time + backlight time |
| 00:06:28 | mirak | I don't see a clip indicator time |
| 00:06:31 | mirak | setting |
| 00:06:55 | mirak | petur |
| 00:07:38 | Soap | so how much demand is there for creating a standard set of audio files for battery testing? |
| 00:08:07 | petur | mirak: menu -> general settings -> display -> peak meter -> clip hold time |
| 00:08:17 | petur | I know it's quite deep in there ;) |
| 00:08:21 | sharpe | Soap: not much that i know of... |
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| 00:11:04 | mirak | petur: thanks |
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| 00:11:18 | linuxstb | Soap: Just pick a show from http://www.archive.org/audio/ - some are available in various formats including MP3, Vorbis and FLAC. |
| 00:11:37 | mirak | thanks it would have been usefull for me this week |
| 00:11:41 | mirak | I recorded 4 shows |
| 00:11:42 | sharpe | hooray archive.org... |
| 00:11:59 | mirak | herbie hacock, marcus miller, diane reeves, and roy hargrove |
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| 00:12:15 | mirak | nice sound, but auto gain would have been nice I guess :D |
| 00:12:23 | petur | mirak: I don't use it anymore now that I have AGC in safety mode ;) |
| 00:13:04 | mirak | petur: I never tried it, I guess there is a nominal record plus reducer |
| 00:13:09 | Soap | linuxstb - that's exactly the source I was thinking of, it would just be (a bit) more meaningful if everyone tested with the same files. |
| 00:13:14 | mirak | nominal volume I mean |
| 00:13:20 | petur | btw, I just updated the AGC patch to current CVS earlier tonight |
| 00:13:34 | mirak | petur: I use only faily builds |
| 00:14:02 | petur | mirak: I just have it reduce gain when signal goes above -3dB |
| 00:14:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Soap: Ideally it'd be the exact same playlist, unshuffled, with the same config file loaded, and no buttons pressed while it runs, but very few people would probably bother with jumping through the hoops. |
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| 00:15:16 | mirak | petur: can you have it enabled when it clips ? |
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| 00:15:37 | petur | mirak? |
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| 00:15:51 | mirak | nevermind |
| 00:15:54 | mirak | ... |
| 00:15:56 | mirak | hum |
| 00:16:04 | mirak | I am going to bed |
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| 00:16:16 | apo | but very few people would probably bother with jumping through the hoops. < I would =P |
| 00:16:25 | apo | G'night, midkay |
| 00:16:28 | apo | mirak* |
| 00:16:30 | apo | ~_~ |
| 00:16:42 | midkay | :o |
| 00:16:52 | apo | >:3 |
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| 00:20:54 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 00:20:54 | * | linuxstb curses himself for not compiling for the player.... |
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| 00:21:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's all your fault! |
| 00:22:51 | petur | this is weird. I keep getting build errors and it looks like the compiler is right. in demystify.c line 265 the screen struct doesn't have those functionpointers as members, only the plugin api has. But why do the CVS builds pass? |
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| 00:28:26 | * | petur slaps his forehead |
| 00:29:32 | sharpe | ... i don't get it... apparently the text is there, but... it's not showing... |
| 00:29:59 | * | petur removes leftovers from a debug session to fix his build problem :/ |
| 00:31:13 | * | sharpe now has text output working. |
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| 00:31:23 | funky | hi |
| 00:31:30 | sharpe | hello |
| 00:32:58 | * | linuxstb knew there was a reason he never touched the gui code... |
| 00:33:10 | sharpe | linuxstb: why's that? |
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| 00:34:06 | linuxstb | Because I just broke Rockbox. (but it's hopefully repaired now). |
| 00:34:15 | sharpe | :) |
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| 00:50:21 | * | linuxstb realises it's only 4 months to go until Fireworks... |
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| 00:52:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Indeed |
| 00:52:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | But that was declared as a "Tentative" date. |
| 00:52:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | We can always just push it back a year. ;0 |
| 00:53:05 | PaulJam | why don't you just call 3.0 fireworks and 3.1 mayday? |
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| 00:55:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, that's a clever solution |
| 00:55:52 | sharpe | hooray! i can successfully set up the GDT... |
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| 01:03:46 | sharpe | everytime i try to type "PACKED" i type "PACKET" |
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| 01:08:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Every time I start a word with the letter "i" I try to capitalize the next letter. |
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| 01:13:55 | sharpe | heheh |
| 01:14:05 | apo | hehe |
| 01:14:19 | apo | Do you also capitalize space? :P |
| 01:16:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 01:16:33 | sharpe | yay |
| 01:16:49 | sharpe | it sets up both the idt and gdt... :) |
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| 01:27:27 | hedzup | alright guys, i'm looking for help or a tutorial on patching files on rockbox... if you don't want to help me that's fine, but i'm hoping someone here will be willing to give up a minute or two of their time |
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| 01:57:09 | esoteric | has anyone had trouble with rockbox and the itrip fm transmitter? |
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| 02:01:58 | idnar | what sort of trouble? |
| 02:03:09 | esoteric | well, the itrip wont turn on |
| 02:03:21 | esoteric | i just bought it so im not sure if it actually has anything to do with rockbox |
| 02:03:26 | esoteric | could be defective |
| 02:03:28 | idnar | oh hmm, itrip is the ipod thing? |
| 02:03:38 | esoteric | ya |
| 02:03:51 | idnar | iirc that does more fancy stuff than just a plain FM audio adapter, so I'm not sure |
| 02:04:28 | idnar | I'm personally using an iAudio X5 with the iRever AFT transmitter without any problems, but that's probably a different kettle of fish, so to speak |
| 02:04:37 | sharpe | esoteric: rockbox doesn't support the ipod peripherals... |
| 02:04:51 | esoteric | ah |
| 02:04:57 | esoteric | guess ill have to give it to the gf then |
| 02:05:01 | sharpe | heh |
| 02:05:11 | sharpe | you could just get a regular fm transmitter... |
| 02:05:16 | esoteric | she has one |
| 02:05:19 | esoteric | so ill just trade her |
| 02:05:25 | sharpe | there you go. :) |
| 02:05:31 | esoteric | you know how to make the signal stronger from those though? |
| 02:05:37 | esoteric | it has to be right next to my reciever in my car |
| 02:06:01 | sharpe | like, quality? or loudness? |
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| 02:06:38 | esoteric | anything really |
| 02:06:51 | esoteric | but better quality would be the best |
| 02:06:56 | esoteric | i suppose loudness isnt an issue |
| 02:07:10 | sharpe | heh, for the itrips you could expose the antenna... |
| 02:07:22 | esoteric | my other is a little belkin deal |
| 02:07:25 | esoteric | lemme dig up a pic |
| 02:09:32 | esoteric | http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=4&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=125595&cmArea=SC12:CG988:DP4210:CL162371 |
| 02:09:35 | esoteric | its like that |
| 02:09:53 | sharpe | yeah, i've seen those... |
| 02:10:04 | esoteric | if there was anyway to make the signal stronger |
| 02:10:12 | esoteric | so i didnt have to hold it up to the stereo |
| 02:10:24 | scorche | sharpe: you should have heard midkay's very feminine scream just now |
| 02:10:37 | sharpe | short of opening it up and soldering a longer antenna? i can't think of anything. |
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| 02:10:55 | sharpe | scorche: okay... |
| 02:11:06 | esoteric | hrmm i could solder |
| 02:11:29 | sharpe | that's all i can think of doing |
| 02:19:22 | Soap | if you never use FM radio, it is helpful to un(plug)(wire) the external whip on your vehicle. |
| 02:20:22 | esoteric | i thought the extrenal whip was pretty much just for AM, the fm antenna was in the reciever? |
| 02:20:29 | Soap | vise versa |
| 02:21:11 | esoteric | huh really |
| 02:21:22 | Soap | yep |
| 02:21:24 | esoteric | i always thought AM waves were larger and thus needed the larger antenna |
| 02:21:28 | esoteric | ive been wrong for so long |
| 02:21:59 | Soap | comercial am radio is at lower frequencies, and has a much longer antenna than your FM whip. |
| 02:22:04 | Soap | it's coiled up in the radio case. |
| 02:23:00 | esoteric | wow |
| 02:23:04 | esoteric | learn something new everyday |
| 02:23:47 | Soap | looks something like |
| 02:23:47 | Soap | http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/05/2d/ae/5c_1_b.JPG |
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| 02:32:37 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 02:32:44 | midkay | sharpei. |
| 02:33:00 | sharpe | yes? |
| 02:33:10 | midkay | nothing, i just like that name. |
| 02:33:14 | sharpe | alright. |
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| 02:59:17 | sharpe | i feel like i acomplished something now. |
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| 03:02:17 | midkay | s/i/i've/ and s/acomplished/accomplished/. |
| 03:02:39 | sharpe | point? |
| 03:03:34 | midkay | sharpei est tres stupide. |
| 03:03:38 | midkay | c'est mon point. |
| 03:04:01 | midkay | he he, je ne suis pas serieuse. |
| 03:04:11 | midkay | sharpei, je t'aime. :D |
| 03:04:20 | sharpe | indifférence :) |
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| 03:04:53 | sharpe | guess what i did midkay! |
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| 03:09:44 | midkay | what!! |
| 03:14:43 | sharpe | midkay: i just finished writing a simple kernel for x86's! |
| 03:15:05 | midkay | x86's? you mean x86s. |
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| 03:15:38 | sharpe | or i could just say for computers based on the x86 processor architecture. |
| 03:15:51 | midkay | yeah. |
| 03:16:08 | midkay | bbiaf. |
| 03:20:32 | midkay | i shall bbiab |
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| 04:53:37 | esoteric | this may be a really stupid question, but would like wrapping an FM transmitter in tin foil increase its signal, or perhaps running some wire from the whip to the transmitter? |
| 04:59:07 | sharpe | i'm just guessing, but... i'd go with the whip -> transmitter wire. |
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| 06:28:53 | afruff | lol, topic answered my question |
| 06:29:28 | midkay | thank god. |
| 06:31:08 | sharpe | afruff: you've not been around a while. |
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| 06:31:45 | afruff | I've been busy |
| 06:31:59 | afruff | I agve up on that WPS I kept bugging you guys about |
| 06:32:03 | afruff | gave* |
| 06:32:48 | sharpe | heheh, why's that? |
| 06:33:04 | afruff | no offense, but the WPS syntax is a bit messed up |
| 06:33:26 | afruff | images requiring alignment tags when they are pixel pased |
| 06:33:30 | afruff | based* |
| 06:33:55 | afruff | sublines require redundant info if you just want one part of a line to change |
| 06:34:26 | afruff | battery logic is flawed(I may be wrong here) |
| 06:34:49 | sharpe | you mean the battery life estimation? :) |
| 06:35:04 | afruff | no |
| 06:35:33 | afruff | I drew up a whole complicated conditional with amny conditionals nested but it didn't work |
| 06:35:40 | afruff | but I checked everythign many times |
| 06:36:01 | afruff | the conditionals were for the battery display |
| 06:36:22 | afruff | is this fixed in newer builds? |
| 06:36:24 | afruff | "Warning for erasing a dynamic playlist when selecting a song does not appear. It does show up in file browser mode, but not in tagcache." |
| 06:36:39 | sharpe | oh, the thing you were doing with the charging? |
| 06:36:52 | afruff | no, what I just pasted |
| 06:37:02 | sharpe | i mean to what you were talking about |
| 06:37:12 | afruff | oh that? |
| 06:37:13 | afruff | yeah |
| 06:37:57 | sharpe | heh. |
| 06:38:39 | afruff | do you have knowledge about my question regarding tagcache? |
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| 06:38:58 | sharpe | no, i don't use tagcache. |
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| 06:42:25 | keilj | hello all |
| 06:42:45 | sharpe | good-day. |
| 06:42:53 | keilj | how is everyone |
| 06:43:15 | midkay | afruff, images requiring alignment tags? what? |
| 06:43:19 | sharpe | melancholic... me, anyways. |
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| 06:44:49 | afruff | look at the unicatcher code |
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| 06:45:00 | afruff | unicatcher wps ahs alignment tags for images |
| 06:45:09 | afruff | if you remvoe them, then they don't work |
| 06:45:15 | afruff | as in, don't appear |
| 06:46:03 | midkay | that should only be as long as you don't use any later on.. either way, if it works, why are you giving up? |
| 06:46:36 | afruff | mainly due to the thing I said about my attery icon |
| 06:46:40 | afruff | battery icon |
| 06:46:55 | midkay | .. so that doesn't work, then. |
| 06:46:58 | afruff | oh, and I kept running over the 1.6 KB limit, heh |
| 06:47:10 | midkay | what were you trying to do that's so complicated? |
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| 06:49:19 | afruff | the text for the abttery part is pretty long |
| 06:49:24 | afruff | where can I paste it? |
| 06:49:37 | midkay | it can't POSSIBLY be so long that you won't paste it in irc.. |
| 06:49:51 | midkay | i don't really care for the code, i'm just curious what you're trying to do, anyways. |
| 06:50:40 | afruff | Ican't exactly tell right now looking at the code since I renamed all my images to one or two letters to save space in the WPS file |
| 06:50:41 | afruff | lol |
| 06:51:09 | midkay | so you had no idea what you intended to do, you just wrote up some longlong line with tons of conditionals hoping to get something cool out of it? |
| 06:51:16 | afruff | no |
| 06:51:26 | afruff | I knew at the time |
| 06:51:35 | midkay | and you don't now? wow.. |
| 06:51:42 | afruff | I know |
| 06:51:47 | afruff | but its ahrd to explain |
| 06:52:07 | * | midkay is all-ears. |
| 06:52:15 | afruff | if plugged in and charging then subline battery image 1 to iamge 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 |
| 06:52:28 | afruff | that's jsut the start |
| 06:52:30 | earHertz_ | midkay: uih, wait, all ears/ |
| 06:52:45 | midkay | earHertz_, uih, yheah, why/ |
| 06:52:45 | midkay | :) |
| 06:53:10 | earHertz_ | afruff: if it's plugged in, nobody is looking at it |
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| 06:53:33 | afruff | %?bp<%?bc<%?bl<%xda;%xdb|%xdb;%xdc|%xdc;%xdd|%xdd;%xde|%xde;%xdf>|%xdf>|%?bl<%xda|%xdb|%xdc|%xdd|%xde>> |
| 06:54:10 | midkay | am i missing something or has afruff not defined the timeout for the alternating lines he's trying to use? |
| 06:54:21 | afruff | you don't need to |
| 06:54:28 | afruff | default is 2 seconds if nto specified |
| 06:54:30 | earHertz_ | midkay: you made sense of that that fast???? |
| 06:54:41 | midkay | earHertz_, no, i just see semicolons without timeout values.. |
| 06:55:19 | afruff | put this line in a WPS: |
| 06:55:31 | midkay | afruff, ah, i had trouble with something like that too.. if your alternating lines are images-only there's some bug.. |
| 06:55:32 | afruff | %xda;%xdb |
| 06:56:14 | afruff | swhich is why you need alignment tags for them to show in sublines |
| 06:56:27 | afruff | which would cause my WPS >1.6 KB |
| 06:57:02 | midkay | that sucks. |
| 06:57:35 | afruff | I just use a modified HiPod theme for the X5 |
| 06:59:10 | sharpe | what should i work on next on my kernel? |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:27 | * | afruff hates scrolling through the unicatcher commits in the commits since 2.5 page |
| 07:00:33 | afruff | they're so long |
| 07:00:42 | earHertz_ | sharpe: your kernel? |
| 07:01:37 | sharpe | earHertz_: yep... writing one for x86s. |
| 07:01:57 | earHertz_ | sharpe: you done any ARM asembly/ |
| 07:02:06 | sharpe | can't say i have, why? |
| 07:02:34 | earHertz_ | arm assembler is SO MUCh more well thought out than x86 |
| 07:02:42 | sharpe | :) |
| 07:02:48 | sharpe | yeah, i've noticed... |
| 07:03:02 | earHertz_ | in particular, EVERY instruction can have a conditional. avoids all those short jumps |
| 07:03:27 | sharpe | :) |
| 07:05:31 | sharpe | so far, i've a basic implementation... |
| 07:06:13 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:06:41 | sharpe | just can't decide what to write next. |
| 07:07:07 | earHertz_ | you have a threas scheduler? |
| 07:07:13 | sharpe | nope. |
| 07:07:22 | sharpe | nor any sort of memory management. |
| 07:12:42 | sharpe | i just need to get around to deciding on something. |
| 07:13:07 | esoteric | welp i just wrapped some speaker wire around the antenna in my belkin transmitter, and had about a 3'ft run |
| 07:13:11 | esoteric | and the sound is much better |
| 07:13:21 | sharpe | :) |
| 07:13:24 | midkay | ha. |
| 07:13:27 | midkay | sharpe's sugestion was put to shame. |
| 07:13:28 | midkay | :D |
| 07:13:36 | sharpe | thank you midkay... |
| 07:13:40 | esoteric | *shrug |
| 07:13:43 | esoteric | just happy it worked |
| 07:13:46 | midkay | pas de probleme, shar pei. |
| 07:14:07 | esoteric | bonjour midkay |
| 07:14:11 | esoteric | ca va? |
| 07:14:18 | midkay | bonjour! ca va bien, et toi? |
| 07:14:45 | esoteric | tres bein, merci. |
| 07:14:52 | scorche | midkay: faire taire |
| 07:14:54 | midkay | c'est bon. :) |
| 07:15:01 | midkay | wtf is 'taire'? |
| 07:15:10 | midkay | que le merde est 'taire'? |
| 07:15:24 | scorche | (shut up) |
| 07:15:25 | * | esoteric shrugs |
| 07:15:27 | scorche | essentially |
| 07:15:40 | midkay | ou: bouche ta ferme. |
| 07:15:53 | scorche | yes...or that |
| 07:16:06 | midkay | yes, yes.. bouches tes fermes, #rockbox!! |
| 07:16:08 | scorche | however, this is a slightly ruder way =) |
| 07:16:14 | midkay | euh! :) |
| 07:16:34 | sharpe | ruder... doesn't look right at all... but it is... :\ |
| 07:16:44 | midkay | what? |
| 07:16:49 | sharpe | the word. |
| 07:16:54 | midkay | 'ruder'? |
| 07:16:59 | midkay | uh. alright... |
| 07:17:31 | sharpe | i'm bored. |
| 07:17:43 | midkay | go correct some grammar. |
| 07:17:44 | scorche | play with your wrinkles.. |
| 07:17:49 | midkay | or that!!! |
| 07:17:53 | midkay | :E |
| 07:17:55 | apo | Ew, French >_> |
| 07:17:58 | sharpe | ... i'm still not a dog... |
| 07:18:08 | apo | Morning *yawns |
| 07:18:12 | esoteric | ive only had a semester |
| 07:18:32 | scorche | well...lemme speak so you can understand... |
| 07:18:35 | scorche | j'ai faim |
| 07:18:38 | scorche | uh.. |
| 07:18:41 | scorche | limonade |
| 07:18:45 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:19:26 | midkay | shar pei est tres.. euh.. tres bete. |
| 07:19:52 | esoteric | Je vomi. |
| 07:20:01 | midkay | qui est-ce que la?! |
| 07:20:26 | midkay | -qui est+qu'est!! |
| 07:20:47 | esoteric | que la? |
| 07:21:12 | midkay | qu'est-ce que "je vomi"? |
| 07:21:28 | esoteric | i didnt actually puke. |
| 07:22:50 | midkay | c'est que je sais. |
| 07:23:45 | esoteric | ya im lost |
| 07:23:48 | midkay | same. |
| 07:23:49 | midkay | :p |
| 07:23:54 | esoteric | whats c'est que je sais. |
| 07:24:08 | sharpe | c'est would be, 'it is'... |
| 07:24:16 | midkay | je sais = to know, so.. c'est que je sais would be something like "that's what i know".. |
| 07:24:21 | esoteric | ahhh |
| 07:24:23 | scorche | it is what i know |
| 07:24:26 | scorche | bah you |
| 07:24:27 | esoteric | i couldnt figure out what sais was |
| 07:24:28 | midkay | i'd have said "that's what i thought" but i don't know the word for that. |
| 07:24:32 | midkay | so i used the closest thing i knew. |
| 07:24:51 | midkay | go REBOOT your PC scorche. |
| 07:24:56 | scorche | i am |
| 07:25:05 | * | midkay narrows eyes |
| 07:25:12 | scorche | i am! |
| 07:25:17 | midkay | alrighty then. |
| 07:25:22 | sharpe | and flip the voltage switch on the power supply while it's on, if you will... ;) |
| 07:25:31 | scorche | uhhhh... |
| 07:25:32 | scorche | no |
| 07:25:34 | midkay | sharpei!! |
| 07:25:41 | sharpe | damn. foiled again. |
| 07:25:43 | scorche | go chew through some power cables |
| 07:25:47 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 07:25:54 | midkay | uhh.. no. haha. |
| 07:26:01 | * | midkay will have to use that more often... |
| 07:26:40 | midkay | whoa. |
| 07:26:44 | midkay | i just found a picture of sharpe. |
| 07:26:46 | midkay | http://members.aol.com/jumpingjacks1/551SHARPEIPUP.jpg !!! |
| 07:27:08 | sharpe | ... |
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| 07:27:34 | midkay | oh, my bad, that's your brother, right. ah, here you are. http://home.texoma.net/~h2358/Hargo%20Shar-pei.jpg |
| 07:28:15 | sharpe | you know, i won't be here for a week. |
| 07:29:00 | midkay | going to the vet?! |
| 07:29:09 | sharpe | yes. that's exactly why. |
| 07:29:28 | midkay | and getting groomed and neutered and washed. |
| 07:29:37 | midkay | getting your worms medicine?! |
| 07:30:16 | sharpe | sure... |
| 07:30:26 | sharpe | you know, the ironic thing, my dog was at the vet today. |
| 07:30:36 | midkay | DOGS can have DOGS?! |
| 07:30:38 | scorche | hey...no slavery.. |
| 07:30:44 | apo | *sigh* |
| 07:30:47 | midkay | ah, puppies? |
| 07:30:55 | apo | You know, this joke is already becoming old |
| 07:31:02 | sharpe | nope, apparently a disease of the spine. |
| 07:31:08 | midkay | that's why it's hilarious. |
| 07:31:17 | sharpe | apo: it's been going on longer than you think... |
| 07:31:29 | scorche | only since yesterday.. |
| 07:31:29 | midkay | mature, sharpe, mature. |
| 07:31:39 | sharpe | midkay: ? |
| 07:32:38 | midkay | oh, nothing. |
| 07:32:54 | sharpe | hey, that's what really happened. |
| 07:33:04 | midkay | huh. |
| 07:33:15 | sharpe | the whole vet thing today. |
| 07:33:40 | midkay | that's not what i meant, never mind. |
| 07:34:11 | sharpe | :) |
| 07:34:28 | midkay | just know that, dog or not, we love you. |
| 07:34:54 | sharpe | makes me feel so much better. |
| 07:35:31 | midkay | oh, fine then. :( |
| 07:35:43 | sharpe | :\ |
| 07:36:03 | midkay | why are YOU frowning. you just insulted ME. |
| 07:36:22 | sharpe | i'm in a melancholic mood, that's why. |
| 07:36:56 | midkay | go do some.. kernel coding or.. spinv work. |
| 07:37:18 | sharpe | i'll do the space invaders work after you fix the cpu emulation for it. :-D |
| 07:37:41 | midkay | SpInv!!! |
| 07:38:01 | sharpe | ? |
| 07:38:10 | midkay | you don't know what spinv is? you CREATED it. |
| 07:38:22 | sharpe | i just thought you were exclaiming it |
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| 07:39:18 | scorche | sharpe: do you have ventrilo installed? |
| 07:39:21 | midkay | i WAS. was that not clear? three exclamation points following nothing but the name of your emulator is a clear exclamation, and you simply asked what. |
| 07:39:22 | sharpe | nope. |
| 07:39:40 | sharpe | midkay: i thought you were exclaiming something about it... |
| 07:40:00 | sharpe | it was more of a , "what about it" question mark. |
| 07:40:05 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:40:14 | * | midkay spots an extra space before the comma there. |
| 07:40:24 | * | sharpe knows. |
| 07:40:47 | midkay | it's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake. |
| 07:40:52 | midkay | if the way is haaaazy. |
| 07:41:13 | midkay | you gotta do the cooking by the book. you know you can't be laaaazy! |
| 07:41:22 | scorche | ugh... |
| 07:41:33 | midkay | we gotta have it made.. you know that i love cake... |
| 07:41:37 | midkay | finally it's time to make a cake! |
| 07:41:51 | sharpe | midkay: how many times have you mentioned cake in the past twenty-four hours? |
| 07:42:06 | midkay | it's directly proportional to the number of times i listen to the song. |
| 07:42:16 | midkay | never use a messy recipe; the cake will turn out craaazy! |
| 07:42:36 | sharpe | okay... |
| 07:42:42 | midkay | http://youtube.com/watch?v=sBQvVAugp8Y !! |
| 07:42:59 | sharpe | lazy town... |
| 07:43:09 | midkay | so lovely. |
| 07:43:14 | midkay | if the way is haaaaaazy. |
| 07:44:20 | midkay | sharpe, you don't have a microphone by chance, do you?!@ |
| 07:44:36 | sharpe | midkay: not within reach, no... |
| 07:44:42 | midkay | what a loser. |
| 07:44:49 | sharpe | yep. |
| 07:45:20 | sharpe | i'm going to rip the audio from the video. |
| 07:45:25 | sharpe | and put it on my ipod. |
| 07:45:39 | midkay | good job. |
| 07:45:45 | sharpe | yep. |
| 07:45:49 | midkay | just remember that you gotta do the cooking by the book. |
| 07:45:55 | midkay | me and scorche want you on ventrilo with us. :( |
| 07:45:59 | midkay | that's an honor! |
| 07:46:19 | sharpe | well, i'll be on ventrillo in a week, how about that? |
| 07:46:40 | midkay | it's VENTRILO, and we want you now! |
| 07:46:49 | sharpe | wow, midkay, look at those comments to the video. |
| 07:46:58 | midkay | impure thoughts?! |
| 07:47:20 | sharpe | there's also something about shackles there too. |
| 07:47:36 | midkay | haha. |
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| 07:49:55 | midkay | it makes the food taste dandy but my tummy hurts all night! |
| 07:50:06 | sharpe | alone, that statement is so wrong... |
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| 07:50:33 | midkay | that didn't even occur to me until you said it, and i've got a seriously frickin' sick mind.. something's truly wrong with you, sharpe. |
| 07:50:56 | sharpe | midkay: what are you talking about? i'm saying it's not a proper sentence. it doesn't say what 'it' is. |
| 07:51:07 | midkay | oh. |
| 07:51:12 | scorche | lol.... |
| 07:51:13 | midkay | i guess the sick-minded one here is indeed me. |
| 07:51:15 | sharpe | you sicko. |
| 07:51:43 | midkay | i can live with that. |
| 07:51:47 | midkay | it's better than being a dog. |
| 07:52:16 | midkay | go to 01:04 in the video! |
| 07:52:22 | sharpe | why? |
| 07:52:53 | midkay | it's.... a.... something, |
| 07:53:03 | sharpe | cookbook? |
| 07:53:17 | midkay | no. |
| 07:53:22 | midkay | and then check out 01:30. |
| 07:53:39 | midkay | the cake is covered in white... frosting. |
| 07:53:39 | sharpe | i hate you. |
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| 07:53:48 | midkay | :D |
| 07:53:52 | esoteric | gnight |
| 07:54:02 | sharpe | g'night esoteric |
| 07:54:02 | midkay | night. |
| 07:54:11 | esoteric | have a good fourth! |
| 07:54:23 | midkay | et vous, monsieur! |
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| 07:54:42 | scorche | uh...to french it is the 24th |
| 07:54:49 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:54:56 | midkay | well. still. |
| 07:54:59 | midkay | have a good.. FOURTH. |
| 07:54:59 | midkay | :p |
| 07:55:14 | sharpe | have a good fourth with or without twenty extra days. |
| 07:55:30 | sharpe | midkay, look at the tags for the video |
| 07:55:47 | midkay | the last two. |
| 07:55:48 | midkay | :D |
| 07:55:53 | sharpe | heheh |
| 07:57:00 | sharpe | yeah, all of the 134 comments are... weird... |
| 07:57:25 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:57:30 | midkay | 135!! |
| 07:57:53 | sharpe | probably about 95% of them... |
| 07:58:08 | midkay | HAHA. |
| 07:58:08 | midkay | http://doitbythebook.ytmnd.com/ |
| 07:58:31 | sharpe | lol |
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| 08:03:04 | sharpe | wow. um. so. |
| 08:04:17 | sharpe | how is everyone? |
| 08:05:50 | midkay | some of us are... doglike? |
| 08:06:16 | sharpe | it is getting pretty old... |
| 08:06:35 | midkay | it wasn't old yesterday? :o |
| 08:06:58 | scorche | he didnt say it was old YET,,,just said that it was _getting_ old |
| 08:07:11 | midkay | but.. it was't old yesterday? :o |
| 08:07:17 | midkay | wasn't* |
| 08:07:32 | sharpe | yeah. it's like, you know, dog years. hah. |
| 08:08:13 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:08:13 | midkay | http://scihalf-life2.ytmnd.com/ |
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| 08:25:09 | sharpe | well, midkay, i've the song in mp3 format now. :D |
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| 08:32:15 | sharpe | why do i get stock tips via spam? :( |
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| 08:50:24 | pondlife | Hello, anyone want a bug fix..? |
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| 08:50:46 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5632 is a little mod which fixes a crash |
| 08:51:08 | pondlife | Should be safe for CVS commit |
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| 09:40:22 | midkay | haha. |
| 09:48:00 | sharpe | hehe. |
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| 09:58:50 | JdGordon | hoho |
| 09:59:02 | sharpe | hihi |
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| 09:59:41 | pondlife | huhu? |
| 09:59:49 | sharpe | No. |
| 09:59:51 | sharpe | Never. |
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| 10:00:20 | pondlife | Fair 'nuff |
| 10:00:24 | sharpe | :) |
| 10:00:41 | pondlife | But do you have CVS commit access...? |
| 10:01:06 | sharpe | why do you ask? you want me to commit a patch, don't you? |
| 10:01:11 | pondlife | Yep |
| 10:01:30 | sharpe | don't have CVS access. sorry. :) |
| 10:01:43 | pondlife | I never get much time before the boss comes round again, so I tend to only pop in when I have a patch ready. |
| 10:02:17 | pondlife | So I probably appear to be very impatient... but I'm not really. |
| 10:02:28 | sharpe | eh, doesn't bother me. |
| 10:03:11 | pondlife | Nah, me neither really - but I'd rather not see a fix get missed. |
| 10:04:16 | sharpe | hmm. i can't remember the name of that one webcomic with 'nuff' in the name... |
| 10:05:02 | pondlife | 'nuff said? |
| 10:05:32 | sharpe | that's what i thought, but i can't find the actual webcomic. |
| 10:07:46 | sharpe | truenuff. |
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| 10:09:05 | sharpe | well, time to find something else to occupy my time. |
| 10:09:16 | pondlife | Me too.. work. |
| 10:09:17 | pondlife | :-( |
| 10:09:29 | * | pondlife works |
| 10:09:30 | sharpe | can't sleep for me. |
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| 10:09:53 | sharpe | and i'm supposed to be leaving on a trip in four hours. |
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| 10:13:51 | SeuZ | ;) |
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| 10:28:01 | muesli__ | could somebody paste some unicode chars pls? |
| 10:28:30 | idnar | ã‚ã«ã‚ |
| 10:28:43 | sharpe | yay rectangles! |
| 10:29:07 | Sinbios | ‚ ‚É‚ß‚¶‚á‚È‚¢‚ñ‚¾AƒAƒjƒ‚Å‚·‚æ |
| 10:29:14 | muesli__ | idnar which language is that? something asian? |
| 10:29:21 | Sinbios | japanese |
| 10:29:35 | idnar | muesli__: yes, it's japanese hiragana |
| 10:29:50 | muesli__ | banzai :) |
| 10:31:40 | scorche | gaijin... |
| 10:32:10 | lou | o genki desu kah? |
| 10:35:37 | wehn | hai, genki desu! |
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| 10:38:51 | lou | thats basically all i know :P |
| 10:39:08 | Genre9mp3 | Woohoo! I just won an OndioSP auction on ebay! :) |
| 10:39:19 | sharpe | for free?! :D |
| 10:39:33 | Genre9mp3 | nearly free! :) |
| 10:39:40 | Genre9mp3 | 20 eur. |
| 10:39:44 | sharpe | yay! |
| 10:40:29 | Genre9mp3 | of course I'll have to buy a MMC card as well, but it definitely worths it... |
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| 10:47:43 | lou | isnt that ancient hardware? |
| 10:47:59 | sharpe | well, i believe i'm going to try to sleep. g'night everyone... |
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| 10:48:16 | sharpe | and i'll probably be back in a week. :D |
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| 10:50:17 | Genre9mp3 | lou: Well, it is currently the smallest rockboxed DAP |
| 10:50:38 | Genre9mp3 | And you can have up to 4GB with a MMC card! |
| 10:51:15 | lou | now you have to tell me what a 'DAP' is |
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| 10:51:59 | Genre9mp3 | Digital Audio Player |
| 10:52:10 | lou | duh :) |
| 10:52:55 | lou | i dont know, judging from the pictures i am looking at at the moment the ipod nano i.e. looks smaller |
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| 10:53:31 | Genre9mp3 | I think it's just thinner |
| 10:54:06 | lou | http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B0000DBJRE.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg |
| 10:54:09 | lou | this one right? |
| 10:54:35 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 10:54:42 | amiconn | The nano is a bit more wide and high, but it's definitely thinner than the Ondio |
| 10:55:10 | amiconn | 3 Nanos stacked are about as thick as the Ondio |
| 10:55:21 | lou | thats what i was thinking amiconn :) |
| 10:56:01 | amiconn | But the Ondio's display is physically larger, and it takes MMCs, so you can have as much capacity as you want (carrying a few MMCs) |
| 10:56:11 | Genre9mp3 | all I wanted, was an alternative small flash player, and now I have it for just 20 eur. I didn't want to spend more on that (eg. buying a Nano) |
| 10:56:30 | amiconn | Yeah, the nano is expensive compared to the Ondio |
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| 10:56:38 | amiconn | ...especially compared to the Ondio SP |
| 10:57:11 | lou | that is true though :) |
| 10:57:32 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: I'm surprised that Ondio's screen is physically larger to Nano's screen |
| 10:57:54 | amiconn | And while thickness is so vastly different, weight doesn't differ that much |
| 10:58:06 | amiconn | Ondio: 60g, Nano: 43g |
| 10:58:32 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: It's physically larger, but has less resolution (and is monochrome) |
| 10:59:06 | Genre9mp3 | yes, I already now that....but I don't care about the small resolution |
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| 10:59:36 | Genre9mp3 | I would like it to have a backlight, though... |
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| 11:02:54 | MaCk- | can any1 help me out plz |
| 11:03:01 | MaCk- | trying to install rockbox on ipod mini |
| 11:03:27 | MaCk- | ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.binbash: ipod_fw: command not found |
| 11:03:48 | linuxstb | You need to download ipod_fw.exe from the wiki page. |
| 11:03:56 | linuxstb | (and put it in the folder you are working in) |
| 11:03:59 | MaCk- | im on linux |
| 11:04:02 | MaCk- | ubuntu |
| 11:04:09 | MaCk- | and i build the ipod_fw.c |
| 11:04:20 | linuxstb | You probably just need to type ./ipod_fw |
| 11:04:28 | MaCk- | ahh |
| 11:04:28 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: You could do this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/OndioBacklight |
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| 11:04:51 | MaCk- | tnxx that did the trick |
| 11:04:53 | MaCk- | :) |
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| 11:06:45 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: Will this work with the Ondio? (sorry for the big link) |
| 11:06:48 | Genre9mp3 | http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-ADATA-200X-MMC-PLUS-4-G-GB-MEMORY-CARD-RETAIL_W0QQitemZ220004027538QQihZ012QQcategoryZ50521QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 11:09:03 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: Yes it will. That's the exact same card type I have. |
| 11:09:24 | amiconn | I have no idea whether it works with the retail firmware. but it definitely works with rockbox |
| 11:09:34 | Genre9mp3 | great! :) |
| 11:10:22 | lou | Genre9mp3, on a semi unrelated topic: if you dont like big links use http://tinyurl.com/ |
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| 11:11:13 | lou | http://tinyurl.com/jr4pu see? :) |
| 11:11:36 | Genre9mp3 | cool... thanx for the tip |
| 11:11:43 | lou | you are welcome |
| 11:11:48 | lou | best thing is |
| 11:11:55 | * | amiconn prefers big cleartext links over tinyurl's obfuscated ones |
| 11:12:01 | lou | you can drop a link in your browsertaskbar |
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| 11:12:26 | lou | click it while you are looking on the big link and it generates a small link without copy and paste |
| 11:12:32 | * | pondlife wonders if the patch at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5632 could be committed, or at least set as Critical |
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| 11:18:38 | pondlife | Anyone? It's basically a one-line fix and I have to leave soon. |
| 11:21:18 | MaCk- | hmm.. rockbox error: -2 |
| 11:21:23 | MaCk- | what does this mean? |
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| 11:23:40 | MaCk- | ohh nevermind |
| 11:23:51 | MaCk- | rockbox.ipod was 0 kb |
| 11:23:52 | MaCk- | :) |
| 11:24:52 | spiorf | hi, i tagged with easytag all my mp3s, and now rockbox don't show me any letter with accent |
| 11:25:08 | spiorf | no à èéìòù at all |
| 11:25:39 | spiorf | there is a solution? possibly not involving re-tagging all the files :) |
| 11:28:19 | spiorf | ok, well, i have to set special options when tagging files? |
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| 11:33:26 | PaulJam | spiorf: i haven't used easytag, but there is an option to always save tags in unicode, you could try if that helps. |
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| 11:37:40 | spiorf | PaulJam, i have to force the utf-8? |
| 11:40:53 | PaulJam | if i understand it right, with the default settings it only saves as utf-8 if the tag contains characters that are not in the local codepage. but i have only had a short look at easytag, i prefer mp3tag (windows). |
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| 11:44:10 | MaCk- | ahmm need some help again. |
| 11:44:22 | MaCk- | whenever i copy files to my ipod |
| 11:44:37 | MaCk- | they are gone when i boot into rockbox |
| 11:44:58 | PaulJam | how do you copy them? |
| 11:45:17 | MaCk- | ahm just drag and drop? |
| 11:45:22 | MaCk- | with ubuntu file manager |
| 11:45:59 | PaulJam | do you use tagcache or the filebrowser in rockbox? |
| 11:46:25 | MaCk- | no tagcache |
| 11:46:41 | MaCk- | im just trying this out for the first time |
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| 11:48:28 | PaulJam | afaik tagcache updates only automatically if it is kept in ram. it is still a very new feature and some functionality is missing. |
| 11:49:01 | MaCk- | what is tagcache? |
| 11:49:36 | PaulJam | oh, sorry, i misunderstood your answer, i thought you are using tagcache. |
| 11:49:45 | MaCk- | oh wait i found out that if i remove the writing rights |
| 11:49:52 | MaCk- | it does appear in rockboot |
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| 11:50:18 | MaCk- | codec failure |
| 11:50:22 | MaCk- | lol a new problem |
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| 11:51:18 | tucoz | Bagder, wikispam. |
| 11:51:58 | PaulJam | there is spam in the forums too, unless someone ported rockbox to rolex watches. |
| 11:52:03 | tucoz | hehe |
| 11:55:02 | tucoz | Guess Paul_The_Nerd will handle the forum spam |
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| 11:59:25 | funky | hi |
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| 12:01:17 | petur | yo |
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| 12:04:34 | tucoz | Zagor, is it possible to get a more secure verification when registering in the wiki? |
| 12:04:58 | tucoz | something like those images with a code that is getting more and more common these days |
| 12:05:01 | Bagder | tucoz: Linus is working on that |
| 12:05:07 | Zagor | these are not bots, the spammers are humans |
| 12:05:17 | tucoz | oh |
| 12:05:44 | tucoz | the last weeks spamming has been very annoying |
| 12:05:49 | preglow | we'll just have to start killing all humans, then |
| 12:05:49 | Zagor | indeed |
| 12:07:38 | petur | tucoz: a forum I admin also uses those images but the human spammers still get in and wast my time... |
| 12:08:05 | tucoz | ok, I thought it was mainly scripts |
| 12:08:24 | * | petur notices Zagor already said something like that and shuts up |
| 12:09:22 | tucoz | in any case, _if_ the spammers acounts get deleted in a short time after they sign up, they _should_ understand that there is no point in trying to spam the rockbox wiki |
| 12:10:01 | Zagor | tucoz: these people are quite persistent. and, more importantly, not few |
| 12:10:02 | petur | you'd be surprised how many idiots there are in this world |
| 12:10:08 | petur | heh |
| 12:10:21 | Zagor | I got an offer for $1000/month to keep one of the pages |
| 12:10:28 | * | petur blames the heat for being slow |
| 12:10:51 | scorche | ha...i thought it was 500 |
| 12:10:53 | tucoz | thats insane. So spamming can be quite rewarding in terms of money (not popularity ;-)) |
| 12:10:56 | linuxstb | How many genuine new wiki users do we get? (e.g. in a week) |
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| 12:11:50 | Zagor | linuxstb: i'd say 10-20 |
| 12:11:52 | petur | maybe we should remove all those that register but don't change a single page |
| 12:12:38 | * | Zagor goes to lunch |
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| 12:23:54 | MaCk- | how can i restore the original bootloader?? |
| 12:24:17 | MaCk- | it doesnt say on the IpodInstallationFromLinux page |
| 12:24:44 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 12:26:44 | linuxstb | Just write bootpartition.bin back to your ipod - dd if=bootpartition.bin of=/dev/sda (assuming your ipod is /dev/sda) |
| 12:27:10 | linuxstb | STOP!!! |
| 12:27:14 | linuxstb | I meant /dev/sda1 :) |
| 12:28:02 | preglow | hahahah |
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| 12:31:56 | Jungti1234 | What is Example 1, 2 in ID3 database? |
| 12:35:08 | spiorf | Jungti1234, you can edit tagnavi.conf |
| 12:35:19 | spiorf | and make custom index |
| 12:35:59 | Jungti1234 | custom.... |
| 12:36:50 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 12:36:53 | Jungti1234 | I see, thanks |
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| 12:49:17 | MaCk- | :) |
| 12:49:25 | MaCk- | i fixed it with apple updater software |
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| 13:16:43 | L | ohhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 13:16:45 | L | Helloooooo |
| 13:17:09 | petur | hi there 'shortest nick competition winner' |
| 13:17:43 | Genre9mp3 | haha |
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| 13:20:12 | lou | there is a competition going on about that? |
| 13:20:44 | petur | too late, there's a winner |
| 13:20:48 | L | Oh man |
| 13:20:49 | L | I rock! |
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| 13:21:57 | L | hey that's plain cheating |
| 13:22:27 | petur | :p |
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| 13:28:39 | L | would a guy who just started learning C be able to help with rockbox? |
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| 13:29:12 | Zagor | L: that depends how much more learning you want to do :-) |
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| 13:31:03 | petur | Mmmm: do the archos players have remotes? |
| 13:31:08 | Zagor | yes |
| 13:32:04 | Mmmm | petur: I don't know! Most of the code in that patch is executed by all players and it automatically displays on all available screens |
| 13:32:18 | Bagder | the archos ones have no lcd though |
| 13:32:25 | Mmmm | thats how the "new" display gui stuff works! |
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| 13:33:54 | petur | Mmmm: then you should try to rewrite the code that it doesn't produce more code if there's only one screen (compared to the previous implementation) |
| 13:34:43 | Mmmm | hmmm: I could do that but then that would have to use the old display code ie lcd_putsxy etc |
| 13:35:11 | Mmmm | and I dont think that's on at all! :D maybe there is another way? |
| 13:35:24 | petur | amiconn will be pleased to hear you filled up the flash ;) |
| 13:35:46 | petur | it does build without your changes, does it? |
| 13:35:52 | Mmmm | Heh heh...something I've always wanted to do! |
| 13:35:59 | Mmmm | it does build without yes |
| 13:36:13 | Mmmm | it's not that much extra code...I'm surprised! |
| 13:36:36 | petur | in theory, you only need one byte ;) |
| 13:36:54 | Mmmm | really? ahh..that would do it then :D |
| 13:37:10 | petur | if it was full before of course... |
| 13:37:21 | Mmmm | I reckon it must be close.. |
| 13:37:33 | Mmmm | Does that mean everyone is about to run into this problem? |
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| 13:42:16 | Jungti1234 | Has Samsung ever made only-audio chipset? |
| 13:42:36 | Bagder | what is "only-audio chipset" to you? |
| 13:43:05 | Jungti1234 | Chip for music playing |
| 13:43:09 | * | amiconn wonders what Mmmm and petur are talking about |
| 13:43:23 | * | Mmmm runs and hides ;) |
| 13:43:24 | Jungti1234 | Only chip for music playing |
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| 13:43:36 | Bagder | Jungti1234: they do lots of chips for music playing |
| 13:43:51 | Bagder | are you referring to a DAC? |
| 13:43:59 | Jungti1234 | I mean it's CPU. |
| 13:44:20 | Bagder | samsung makes lots of CPUs used in music players |
| 13:44:21 | Jungti1234 | chip = CPU |
| 13:44:26 | Mmmm | amiconn: I appear to have filled the flash on the Archos FM Recorder and the Archos Recorder V2 with a smallish patch! |
| 13:44:34 | amiconn | huh? |
| 13:44:36 | Jungti1234 | no, ONLY music playing |
| 13:44:41 | Jungti1234 | Bagder. |
| 13:44:45 | Bagder | so what is "only" music playing? |
| 13:44:45 | * | amiconn is going to check sth |
| 13:45:04 | Jungti1234 | That don't support multimedia. |
| 13:45:09 | Jungti1234 | only music playing |
| 13:45:20 | Mmmm | amiconn: well... i get this error when i try to compile anyway: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5059.msg39381#msg39381 |
| 13:45:28 | Bagder | that's a weird question |
| 13:45:31 | Bagder | a CPU runs whatever |
| 13:45:58 | Bagder | CPUs aren't limiting video or not |
| 13:46:01 | Jungti1234 | oops nose blood wait |
| 13:46:06 | dongs | did I mention about reset-settings-on-hold-down problem? |
| 13:46:23 | dongs | i mean, i take ipod out of case, plug it into charger, boom. |
| 13:46:26 | dongs | fucking settings reset |
| 13:46:29 | dongs | why? because i had hold on |
| 13:46:38 | dongs | why the hell should I check if hold was on or off |
| 13:46:42 | dongs | before charging it |
| 13:46:50 | scorche | dongs: we talked about this before... |
| 13:46:55 | dongs | can that be moved to some less annoying combination of keys? |
| 13:47:12 | dongs | scorche: since nothing was done about it, im back to discuss it |
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| 13:47:27 | Jungti1234 | Bagder: thanks |
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| 13:48:15 | scorche | dongs: nothing was done about it because there is nothing _to_ do |
| 13:48:29 | dongs | wtf. |
| 13:48:39 | dongs | clearly, moving it to a different combination that is acutally HARD TO PUSH would be a MUCH BETTER IDEA |
| 13:48:55 | scorche | like i said before...you are welcome to make a patch for yourself or others like you, but there is no reason to change something just because you wish it |
| 13:49:22 | dongs | uh |
| 13:49:28 | dongs | this problem affects ALL IPOD USERS. |
| 13:49:30 | dongs | not just ME. |
| 13:49:41 | dongs | the combination was a poor design choice. |
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| 13:50:17 | amiconn | Imho it's odd that the ipod boots when hold is on in the first place |
| 13:50:19 | scorche | everything else was as well it seems.. |
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| 13:54:34 | scorche | amiconn: yes, it is >_>...it seems like if you are to have a hold button...one of the benefits of it would be to prevent it from powering on and using up battery while you are not using it |
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| 13:54:56 | Mmmm | amiconn: What do you think about this full flash business? is that what that error means? |
| 13:54:57 | dongs | it shouldnt fucking BOOT at all during hold and just charge. |
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| 13:55:12 | dongs | which would be fine with me |
| 13:55:16 | dongs | regardless, that combo needs to go |
| 13:55:31 | dongs | there are liek 5 other buttons to hold |
| 13:55:33 | dongs | while loading |
| 13:55:36 | dongs | that can do reset |
| 13:55:47 | dongs | and they're impossible to accidentally press long enough to matter. |
| 13:55:48 | scorche | then write a patch to get rid of it yourself if you are so anxious to have it |
| 13:57:13 | Jungti1234 | sorry Bagder |
| 13:57:24 | Jungti1234 | Can you explain much more to me? |
| 13:57:35 | Jungti1234 | about CPU.... |
| 13:58:13 | Bagder | I don't know if I can |
| 13:58:20 | Bagder | a CPU runs code |
| 13:58:39 | Bagder | if it can control a display, the code can then affect what is shown |
| 13:58:46 | Jungti1234 | what's mean 'runs'? |
| 13:58:46 | Jungti1234 | 'works'? |
| 13:59:04 | Bagder | runs means executes |
| 13:59:11 | Zagor | Jungti1234: the pentium in your pc is a CPU. it can run any program. it's the same with the CPU in an mp3 player. |
| 13:59:11 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 13:59:34 | Jungti1234 | but |
| 13:59:54 | Jungti1234 | If CPU is bad, it's program that don't support. |
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| 14:00:37 | Bagder | Jungti1234: if the CPU isn't fast enough, there are certain tasks that will be hard to do |
| 14:01:54 | amiconn | Mmmm: It means that your "small" patch somehow manages to increase code+rodata+initialized_data size by more than 12.5KB (!!) |
| 14:02:08 | Jungti1234 | Bagder, Zagor: end? |
| 14:02:16 | Bagder | end? |
| 14:02:23 | Jungti1234 | the end? |
| 14:02:28 | Bagder | of what? |
| 14:02:37 | Jungti1234 | explanation |
| 14:02:41 | petur | wow.... 12.5KB |
| 14:02:47 | amiconn | Read: this is almost 6% of the total code size on recorder fm/v2 |
| 14:02:50 | Mmmm | ami:WOW!!! |
| 14:03:13 | Mmmm | amiconn: I mean! :0 |
| 14:03:21 | Bagder | Jungti1234: well there's no point in continuing unless you have anything else to ask |
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| 14:04:06 | amiconn | Mmmm: What's the size of rockbox.bin with your patch? |
| 14:04:13 | amiconn | (for recorder fm) |
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| 14:04:21 | Jungti1234 | Bagder: ok, Does CPU for music playing exist only? |
| 14:04:28 | Bagder | Jungti1234: no |
| 14:05:10 | Mmmm | amiconn: hang on a sec...I'll have to recompile to find out.... |
| 14:05:17 | petur | Jungti1234: a 'cpu' can be used for only playing music, but it can do much more |
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| 14:06:03 | petur | just like a cpu can be used for anything else |
| 14:07:11 | S0ap | Jungti1234 - a CPU may exist which is optimized for the type of math used to play a particular codec, but that doesn't mean it can't do other things. Addition is addition, division is division. |
| 14:07:38 | Mmmm | amiconn: 232.6 KB |
| 14:07:55 | Jungti1234 | um.. |
| 14:08:48 | Jungti1234 | So, CPU is that isn't exist for music playing only? |
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| 14:09:23 | Mmmm | amiconn: my patch only changes keyboard.c and it increases its size by 8.1 KB |
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| 14:09:49 | amiconn | fmrecorder rockbox.bin is ~216KB (220596 bytes), more or less a few bytes |
| 14:10:11 | amiconn | Mmmm: Oh, what sh-elf-gcc do you use? |
| 14:10:11 | | Part SeuZ |
| 14:10:26 | * | amiconn suspects ooold gcc 3.3, unpatched |
| 14:10:31 | Mmmm | 3.3.6 |
| 14:10:33 | Bagder | aha |
| 14:10:44 | * | Bagder points finger |
| 14:10:44 | S0ap | Jungti1234 - A CPU might be designed and sold as a music decoding chip - but there is no reason it couldn't be used for other things (maybe poorly). |
| 14:10:46 | amiconn | Upgrade to 4.0.3 rockbox-patched |
| 14:11:00 | * | Mmmm hangs his head in shame |
| 14:11:04 | amiconn | Then rockbox will be compiled with -Os for SH1 |
| 14:12:01 | amiconn | Mmmm: The 8.1KB difference is comparing cvs rockbox and patched rockbox compiled with the same gcc (3.3.6)? |
| 14:12:19 | Mmmm | no, source files |
| 14:13:08 | amiconn | ah |
| 14:13:20 | amiconn | Source file size doesn't tell much |
| 14:13:27 | Mmmm | oh, ok :) |
| 14:13:58 | Mmmm | because of the #if post processing stuff? |
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| 14:14:34 | * | amiconn points Mmmm to http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler#SH_based_Archos_Archos |
| 14:14:52 | Mmmm | Cheers amiconn.... |
| 14:16:13 | Bagder | and rockboxdev.sh builds it quick and easy for you! ;-) |
| 14:17:09 | linuxstb | amiconn: Why do you think that it's odd that ipods turn on when the hold switch is on? I think it's only when the user inserts power - afaik the hold button disables the keys. |
| 14:18:07 | amiconn | Bagder: Does that work on cygwin, btw? |
| 14:18:17 | dongs | uh huh |
| 14:18:22 | Bagder | I don't know but I guess it should |
| 14:18:26 | dongs | linuxstb: the PROBLEM is hold on during boot = erased settings. |
| 14:18:39 | amiconn | linuxstb: Perhaps it should turn on when plugging power even when hold is on - but then it should power down again when pulling it |
| 14:19:52 | dongs | hy |
| 14:19:58 | linuxstb | dongs: a) It's not a problem for me; b) Rockbox is a work-in-progress for the ipods; c) feel free to offer a patch instead of moaning - it will be harder than you think. |
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| 14:20:13 | linuxstb | amiconn: In the bootloader? |
| 14:20:17 | dongs | linuxstb: gee, checking of any other key is on during boot to reset settings is hard? |
| 14:20:22 | linuxstb | dongs: Yes. |
| 14:20:25 | dongs | how so |
| 14:20:28 | dongs | enlighten me |
| 14:20:47 | linuxstb | The button driver doesnt' detect keypresses made before Rockbox starts. Otherwise I would have obviously implemented that. |
| 14:21:00 | dongs | uh and hold is different how? |
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| 14:21:08 | linuxstb | It's attached to a GPIO pin. |
| 14:21:13 | dongs | i see. |
| 14:21:34 | dongs | that makes more sense |
| 14:21:39 | dongs | but still doesnt make it any less annoying. |
| 14:22:47 | linuxstb | I agree it shouldn't be there when Rockbox is officially released for the ipods - hopefully we'll have a better understanding of the hardware by then. |
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| 14:23:28 | dongs | nice. |
| 14:23:42 | dongs | at least theres some promise. |
| 14:23:45 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 14:23:58 | dongs | Jungti1234: do you pick your nose? |
| 14:24:04 | Jungti1234 | petur, s0ap, Bagder, Zagor thanks |
| 14:24:19 | Jungti1234 | dongs: what's mean? |
| 14:24:42 | dongs | Jungti1234: you had a nosebleed earlier |
| 14:24:49 | dongs | they're usually caused by blood presure or picking nose |
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| 14:26:48 | Jungti1234 | My nose is weak. |
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| 14:26:56 | dongs | orly |
| 14:26:57 | dongs | oic |
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| 14:27:29 | pondlife | petur: around? |
| 14:27:41 | petur | plons |
| 14:28:03 | pondlife | Just looking at a commit you did a couple of days ago.. |
| 14:28:20 | pondlife | I think it might stop party mode working? |
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| 14:28:41 | pondlife | Have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/tree.c.diff?r1=1.409&r2=1.410 |
| 14:29:18 | pondlife | It looks like audio_stop will now be called, even in party mode. |
| 14:29:25 | petur | ouch |
| 14:29:32 | petur | you're right |
| 14:29:46 | pondlife | You may want to commit my tree.c patch before fixing... ;-) |
| 14:30:14 | petur | no time until tonight :/ |
| 14:30:18 | pondlife | No rush |
| 14:30:32 | pondlife | Just as long as someone remembers |
| 14:31:29 | petur | good spotting, I overlooked that obvious bug |
| 14:34:03 | * | pondlife has to eat something, and soon. |
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| 14:51:00 | Mmmm | Bagder: wow, rockboxdev.sh really does make life easy doen't it? thanks for that! :) |
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| 15:01:23 | preglow | linuxstb: what, hold doesn't physically deactivate buttons on all ipods? |
| 15:05:44 | linuxstb | preglow: Yes, it does - it's the power which turns on ipods when the hold switch is on. |
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| 15:23:43 | Mmmm | woo hoo... My patch doesn't break the Archos recorders anymore..... Thanks Amiconn - and Bagder for the ease of rockboxdev.sh |
| 15:24:01 | * | Mmmm loves his new sparkly sh-elf cross-compiler |
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| 15:25:13 | linuxstb | Mmmm: Don't forget to test your patches with the Player... :) |
| 15:25:26 | L | roar |
| 15:25:46 | Mmmm | I've tested them all this time linuxstb (after seeing your commit ;) ) |
| 15:26:10 | petur | L = Lion? |
| 15:26:19 | Mmmm | Heh heh... |
| 15:26:52 | L | nooooo |
| 15:26:56 | L | L just means... L |
| 15:27:14 | petur | [15:25] <L> roar |
| 15:28:05 | * | Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic. |
| 15:28:53 | Mmmm | Petur, your clock's wrong! it was at 1527! |
| 15:29:46 | PaulJam | for me it was 15:25 too. |
| 15:30:06 | petur | lol |
| 15:30:18 | S0ap | xx:25:17 |
| 15:30:32 | * | petur designs a new NTP protocol to sync time over irc |
| 15:30:36 | markun | 15:25 here |
| 15:30:42 | S0ap | now? |
| 15:31:05 | markun | S0ap: no, the 'roar' message |
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| 15:31:30 | PaulJam | according to this site my clock is only off by a few seconds: http://www.weltzeituhr.com/cgi-local/atomuhr.cgi |
| 15:31:33 | Genre9mp3 | roared at 16:25 here... |
| 15:32:24 | petur | wow, my clock is off by only 1 second |
| 15:32:53 | * | petur pats local sysadmin on the back |
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| 15:41:19 | Mmmm | I'd better wind my clock up... |
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| 15:53:54 | earHertz_ | somebody remind me how I put an entirely new file in a patch? |
| 15:55:02 | petur | just zip the file with the patch and upload |
| 15:55:37 | Mmmm | I think he means how to create a new file in the source and then include it in a patch |
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| 15:58:08 | linuxstb | earHertz_: diff -u /dev/null apps/new/file.c >> mypatch.diff |
| 15:58:27 | linuxstb | (I think....) |
| 15:59:15 | earHertz_ | linuxstb: thanks |
| 15:59:33 | earHertz_ | linuxstb: you seen my memcpy thread? |
| 15:59:59 | Slasheri | earHertz_: diff -Nu |
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| 16:00:32 | earHertz_ | Slasheri: thanks |
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| 16:01:04 | TheD | What happened to the wiki? |
| 16:02:23 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 16:02:36 | Mmmm | TheD: 14.29 * Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic. (yes i know my clocks still wrong :D ) |
| 16:02:44 | preglow | oooh, flashy |
| 16:03:05 | TheD | ohh... |
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| 16:23:54 | JdGordon | did anyone see my directory walker patch on flyspray? |
| 16:27:40 | petur | you lost it? |
| 16:28:21 | petur | where did you see it last time, I'd suggest you start searching there ;) |
| 16:28:55 | JdGordon | :p no, im wondering if anyone looked at it.. |
| 16:29:31 | JdGordon | some feedback would be nice... |
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| 16:36:08 | earHertz | JdGordon: what's it do? |
| 16:37:04 | JdGordon | it just replaces some reused code in playlist.c with a proper directory walker |
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| 16:37:30 | JdGordon | i.e function goes through every file/folder under a start directory |
| 16:37:33 | earHertz | JdGordon: and teh advantage is? |
| 16:37:44 | JdGordon | less code reuse |
| 16:38:05 | JdGordon | also the version i did was iterative not recursive like the current functions, which should be faster/better on memory |
| 16:38:35 | earHertz | JdGordon: code reuse is a good tjhiong. |
| 16:38:55 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5623 |
| 16:39:01 | earHertz | but yes, iterative is probbaly easier on teh mmeory, if longer in the code |
| 16:39:14 | JdGordon | not code reuse.. i mean redoing code.. oposite of code reuse |
| 16:39:19 | * | JdGordon is half asleep |
| 16:39:32 | earHertz | my feedback: collect some metrics |
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| 16:40:05 | JdGordon | wellt thats where it falls apart.. i was expecting a smaller exe but it went up by 200 bytes on the h300 |
| 16:40:21 | JdGordon | i havnt done speed testing coz i dont know the best way to do it |
| 16:41:39 | earHertz | JdGordon: iterative tends to result in bigger code. 200 bytes is negligable unless you're up against a wall in teh h300? |
| 16:43:10 | earHertz | JdGordon: speed testing is easy. call teh old function and your new one 100 times each, take timings. I can show you an example |
| 16:43:18 | Rob2222_ | Is it possible to put a special FM radio (1-150MHz) like already done in the patchtracker in a plugin? |
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| 16:43:42 | earHertz | Rob2222: doubtful. |
| 16:44:27 | Rob2222 | Hmm, I like this feature but I dont think that this will made it into rockbox anywhen ... |
| 16:44:59 | earHertz | Rob2222: fix it until it does get in |
| 16:45:47 | Rob2222 | Well, I dont know if its legal to be able to hear 1-150MHz... Is it? |
| 16:46:00 | earHertz | JdGordon: this would keep me from yusing your patch: im not 100% sure why, but get_next_directory doesnt work exactly as it used to now, but that can be figured out later. |
| 16:47:21 | JdGordon | ye, something is odd there.. |
| 16:47:29 | JdGordon | it _should_ work.. but doesnt :p |
| 16:47:56 | JdGordon | file size is 80bytes more on the recorder |
| 16:49:48 | JdGordon | no, 40bytes more, which is nothing |
| 16:51:00 | JdGordon | 12.50am, time for bed, any other comments are welcome |
| 16:51:01 | JdGordon | cya |
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| 16:51:24 | Rob2222 | sleep well |
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| 16:56:09 | webguest15 | Rob2222, it is legal to listen to vhf and hf frequencies, even uhf, what is illegal is Transmitting on restricted/reserved frequencies |
| 16:57:21 | webguest15 | you have to obtain a radio license from the respective authorities should you wish to transmit on reserved frequencies |
| 16:59:22 | PaulJam | i think for some frequencies it is illegal to listen to them, for example police radio. |
| 16:59:54 | petur | must depend on the country I think |
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| 17:00:09 | webguest15 | depends on country |
| 17:00:16 | Rob2222 | hmm |
| 17:00:18 | Rob2222 | :( |
| 17:01:03 | Rob2222 | I would love to have this feature in RB without to be needed to compile every version for myself |
| 17:01:06 | webguest15 | essentail services are moving to scambled radio RX/TX anyway, to many loonies interfering |
| 17:02:04 | Rob2222 | lol, but not the police in germany. :p no money for scrambeld |
| 17:02:42 | Rob2222 | You can hear it with iriver FW ... |
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| 17:03:19 | Rob2222 | but i would like to here the german-CB-funk at 27MHZ, the band where everyone can tanrsmit without license here |
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| 17:04:33 | webguest15 | hmm, the cb fad in my country dissapeard very quickly, not enough err "substance" to the conversations |
| 17:06:02 | Rob2222 | So could this radio come into RB, or is it a problem with some countries? |
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| 17:06:54 | Rob2222 | Theoretically it should possible because its full legal in some countries, or? |
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| 17:10:26 | PaulJam | I'm no lawyer, but i believe it only has to be legal in the country where the rockbox software is hosted. but the usage of rockbox (or at least of this feature) would then be illegal in countries that don't allow it. |
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| 17:11:04 | S0ap | I can believe the software radio allows you to tune that low, but does it allow you to set the channel spacing? Are there no hard filters? |
| 17:11:19 | Rob2222 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5448 |
| 17:11:22 | amiconn | PaulJam: I think that it would be very difficult to track usage. |
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| 17:11:43 | amiconn | Afaik the irive3r firmware allows you to select between european and japanese frequency range, |
| 17:11:53 | Rob2222 | 8192 Hz |
| 17:11:56 | amiconn | but what would stop a user to select the japanese range in europe? |
| 17:12:12 | Rob2222 | amiconn: You got it. :D |
| 17:12:18 | Rob2222 | Nothing ;) |
| 17:12:41 | PaulJam | amiconn: but the eu version does only include the european range. |
| 17:13:05 | Rob2222 | OK, can you make a jpanese RB version for FM tuner? :D |
| 17:13:13 | Rob2222 | or Northpole version |
| 17:13:15 | Rob2222 | :) |
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| 17:14:05 | PaulJam | one could propably provide a plugin seperately with a disclaimer that the usage might be illegal in your country. |
| 17:14:30 | Rob2222 | that would be nice. cause of that i asked if a plugin cann access the fm tuner fully |
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| 17:16:18 | PaulJam | when i think of it, maybe rockbox is already illegal in france, because it has no volume cap. |
| 17:17:35 | DarkJesus | Never thought of that |
| 17:17:55 | amiconn | PaulJam: True, but nothing will stop an european user to install the japanese version |
| 17:18:13 | amiconn | Afaik the only difference (apart from the tuner thing) is the ability to show certain tags |
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| 17:18:46 | Rob2222 | i think in iriver fb jp/kr version has a any different font. at least it looked so. |
| 17:18:56 | amiconn | All iriver firmwares have english menus (which is a really strange thing imho) |
| 17:19:05 | Rob2222 | but well, i compared 1.25 eu to 1.29 kr/jp i think |
| 17:19:48 | * | amiconn would expect an european version to allow choosing between several european languages, and a japanese/korean version to show the menus in japanese/korean |
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| 17:20:13 | PaulJam | the 1.29kr has korean (or something like that) in the menu until you change the language to english. |
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| 17:21:13 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: Well, many foreign speakers prefer english menus |
| 17:21:58 | |apo| | Yup |
| 17:22:00 | * | |apo| does |
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| 17:22:11 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: I don't say there shouldn't be english menus, but I would expect an eutopean version to offer more than english |
| 17:22:12 | apo` | Meh, nick taken |
| 17:23:01 | amiconn | Afaik, England is part of Europe ;) |
| 17:24:04 | Genre9mp3 | Doesn't the european version of original fw offer other languages as well? |
| 17:24:36 | amiconn | You can select languages, but I don't know what this setting actually does |
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| 17:24:48 | amiconn | The menus are always english regardless of the setting |
| 17:25:10 | Genre9mp3 | well, me either don't know...and in fact, who cares? :) |
| 17:25:26 | Rob2222 | Afaik the codepages in ID3 Tags, will be select. can it be? |
| 17:26:27 | PaulJam | i thought the language setting is for the codepage used in the text viewer |
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| 17:30:28 | S0ap | anyone familliar enough with batch image conversion in irfanview to be willing to PM me for a second? I'm not sure I have it set up right for traversing subdirectories. |
| 17:30:54 | S0ap | for it does great finding all my folder.jpgs, but it wants to save them all to one directory. |
| 17:31:20 | Genre9mp3 | Funny quote on MR about Rockbox: "i just dont like anymore, i got mad bored from it |
| 17:31:21 | Genre9mp3 | plus whats the point of having it look like an ipod if you bought an iriver" |
| 17:31:44 | Genre9mp3 | I wonder if he/she ever tried first... |
| 17:32:09 | Rob2222 | what he means? ipod theme? |
| 17:32:28 | Genre9mp3 | I can't figure out... |
| 17:32:55 | Rob2222 | I love my H340 ... but the player of my dreams would be the H340 as flat and with the display of the ipod video :D |
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| 17:33:22 | Genre9mp3 | But other than one (ok maybe two) iPod clones wps... how the hell it made his iriver look like an iPod? |
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| 17:34:18 | PaulJam | S0ap: you need to check the "create subfolders in destination directory" box and select the drive where the images are as output directory. |
| 17:34:41 | Rob2222 | The idea to make the iriver look like an ipod has something ... "uh, a ipod? ... No, just camouflage, THIS player is much better than an ipod ;)" |
| 17:37:49 | * | linuxstb can't spot "make it look like an ipod" on the Why Choose Rockbox page... |
| 17:38:20 | Rob2222 | "on the why choose rb" ... lol |
| 17:39:00 | PaulJam | maybe he meant, that rockbox on an h300 looks like rockbox on an ipod photo. |
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| 19:03:43 | webguest38 | anyone here use this editor http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ |
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| 19:05:27 | Ribs | what's that got to do with the price of milk? |
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| 19:40:50 | AM | Anyone feel like helping this rockbox-patching newbie? What do I have to do to call custom functions in new (non-CVS) source files? I've #included the corresponding header file in the file (tagtree.c) I'm calling the new function from but when running make it says there's an "undefined reference" to this function? |
| 19:40:55 | AM | What else do I have to do? |
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| 19:48:48 | amiconn | AM: 'undefined reference means that the linker can't resolve the symbol. Is your new source file actually built at all? |
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| 19:57:57 | petur | AM: include it in the SOURCES and FILES files ? |
| 19:59:17 | petur | bbl |
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| 20:00:59 | AM | nope, haven't done that. do I just add the filename to a new line in the SOURCES and FILES? |
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| 20:01:25 | amiconn | FILES isn't important for the build process, only SOURCES is |
| 20:01:47 | amiconn | FILES just defines what's included in the (daily) tarballs |
| 20:03:27 | AM | and there we go! success! thank you |
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| 21:11:39 | theprodukkt | hi |
| 21:11:53 | theprodukkt | im totally new 2 rockbox |
| 21:12:00 | theprodukkt | but i already love it |
| 21:12:14 | theprodukkt | my problem is that i dont have a mp3 player ... |
| 21:12:26 | theprodukkt | i want to buy one |
| 21:12:33 | theprodukkt | but dont know which 2 chose |
| 21:12:36 | theprodukkt | might u help me? |
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| 21:12:56 | PaulJam | what features are important for you? |
| 21:13:22 | theprodukkt | im that kind of guy who just wants everything |
| 21:13:59 | theprodukkt | but the most important are (the not supported usb on the go function) much space, nice handling of many files |
| 21:14:07 | gaarie | Do you serve any files on here that aren't on the website? |
| 21:14:20 | S0ap | like porn? |
| 21:14:25 | gaarie | ll, nope |
| 21:14:27 | gaarie | lol |
| 21:14:47 | linuxstb | gaarie: No. |
| 21:15:02 | gaarie | tx. I like rockbox on the 4th gen better than linux |
| 21:15:25 | gaarie | tis sweet, you guys did an awesome job |
| 21:15:37 | theprodukkt | think so too |
| 21:15:41 | linuxstb | theprodukkt: Well, do you want FM radio, colour LCD, video playback, optical input/output, recording features, etc etc? Nothing has everything... |
| 21:15:42 | theprodukkt | how many hours work ;)? |
| 21:16:18 | theprodukkt | i actually think of the iaudio x5l or the iriver h340 |
| 21:16:39 | PaulJam | theprodukkt: iriver h300 and iaudio X5 support usb on the go, i think ipod video and photo support it too with additional hardware. |
| 21:17:02 | theprodukkt | thats what i dont like at the apple stuff |
| 21:17:12 | theprodukkt | the additional (not realy cheap) hardware |
| 21:17:22 | gaarie | right thanks guys for the hard work |
| 21:17:25 | theprodukkt | but i love the wheel |
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| 21:18:19 | theprodukkt | which player (apple cowon iriver) supports the rockbox most? |
| 21:18:33 | theprodukkt | and on which platform is the future of rockbox |
| 21:18:49 | linuxstb | The iriver ports are the oldest, and are about to get a first official release. The iaudio and ipod ports are less developed. |
| 21:18:56 | PaulJam | at the moment rockbox runs best on the archos and iriver devices |
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| 21:19:21 | christia1 | just a test sorry :> |
| 21:19:23 | theprodukkt | i think this will not change in the next months... |
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| 21:19:31 | linuxstb | IMO, no platform jumps out as being the future of Rockbox - all of the newly supported players have more or less the same capabiities. |
| 21:19:36 | theprodukkt | so thanks, u helped me to choose :) |
| 21:20:12 | theprodukkt | now ive some additional questions |
| 21:20:23 | theprodukkt | is the rockbox based on linux? |
| 21:20:33 | linuxstb | No, it's written from scratch. |
| 21:20:42 | theprodukkt | holy shit |
| 21:20:45 | theprodukkt | realy nice work! |
| 21:21:33 | theprodukkt | ive seen some plugins work on some platforms but not on all |
| 21:21:52 | theprodukkt | whats the metter for that ? |
| 21:22:44 | linuxstb | Most plugins work everywhere. If they don't then it could be that they just haven't been ported yet, or there is a hardware reason why they aren't ported. |
| 21:22:55 | linuxstb | "ported" means adapting for the LCD and buttons. |
| 21:23:23 | theprodukkt | so the basic commands are the same on each platform? |
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| 21:23:47 | theprodukkt | like different librarys for each player with the same commands/functions? |
| 21:25:48 | theprodukkt | ^^ ? |
| 21:25:53 | linuxstb | I'm not sure what you mean... |
| 21:26:26 | linuxstb | But I think the answer is yes. |
| 21:26:38 | theprodukkt | i think so too :) |
| 21:26:57 | linuxstb | Almost all the high-level code is shared across all the players. It's mainly just the low-level drivers which differ. |
| 21:27:18 | theprodukkt | u understood me |
| 21:27:26 | theprodukkt | (although my bad english xD) |
| 21:27:27 | linuxstb | Apart from the Archos players - they have a hardware MP3 decoder, so the playback engine is different to the other players which decode the audio using the CPU. |
| 21:28:08 | linuxstb | But most of the code is still shared with the Archos devices and everything else. |
| 21:28:10 | theprodukkt | would it be hard to write a driver for a USB keyboard / a text editor which uses that keyboard? |
| 21:28:29 | linuxstb | Sorry, got to go.... |
| 21:28:37 | theprodukkt | :( |
| 21:28:48 | theprodukkt | hope ill see you |
| 21:29:10 | theprodukkt | bye dave |
| 21:31:09 | preglow | yes, it'll be pretty hard |
| 21:31:17 | preglow | you need a driver for the interface, plus we don't have an usb stack left |
| 21:31:21 | preglow | then we'd need the keyboard specific code |
| 21:31:29 | preglow | we already have a text editor |
| 21:31:39 | preglow | s/left/yet/ |
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| 21:40:42 | theprodukkt | isnt rockbox able to use the usb port for the usual file transfer? |
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| 21:43:24 | PaulJam | theprodukkt: afaik on the ipods rockbox starts the apple firmware for usb transfers and the other players do the usb transfers in harware. |
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| 21:44:35 | thprdkkt|away | oh, thought it would be able 2 use the usb connectors |
| 21:45:34 | thprdkkt|away | already had plans for glows which can be used as keyboard for writing stuff in the train :) |
| 21:46:04 | thprdkkt|away | why didnt u use linux as base for this project? |
| 21:46:28 | preglow | because we think using linux is overkill |
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| 21:47:11 | thprdkkt|away | maybe your right |
| 21:47:14 | PaulJam | i think it is possible to use the usb on the go port for things like keyboards (but someone needs to write the driver9 |
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| 21:47:47 | S0ap | a multiuser multitasking network OS is overkill for a DAP? |
| 21:48:35 | thprdkkt|away | im new to os programming, but thought it was easier to just edit linux for specific needs like this |
| 21:48:46 | preglow | "edit" ? |
| 21:48:52 | preglow | we'd still need to write tons of new stuff |
| 21:48:54 | thprdkkt|away | dont know the word |
| 21:49:17 | thprdkkt|away | i thought its overkill to code a new os |
| 21:49:34 | preglow | when you look at how small our kernel is, you'll see why |
| 21:49:38 | preglow | it's a fraction of the size oflinux |
| 21:49:43 | preglow | which also probably makes it tons faster |
| 21:49:56 | thprdkkt|away | where can i start in the cvs to understand the base functions of an os |
| 21:50:04 | preglow | firmware/ directory |
| 21:50:22 | PaulJam | thprdkkt|away: i don't think the first rockbox targets would have been able to run linux. |
| 21:50:29 | preglow | they probably would |
| 21:50:37 | preglow | but i seriously doubt performance would be good |
| 21:51:06 | PaulJam | thats what i meant. |
| 21:51:25 | thprdkkt|away | ^^ 1 hour boot ;) |
| 21:51:36 | thprdkkt|away | maybe your right |
| 21:51:39 | preglow | that too |
| 21:51:44 | preglow | just look at how dog-slow ipodlinux boots |
| 21:51:44 | thprdkkt|away | means: youre surely right |
| 21:52:21 | thprdkkt|away | the "Customizable ID3 Tag Database" |
| 21:52:34 | thprdkkt|away | is it equal to the track choosing system from iopd? |
| 21:52:40 | thprdkkt|away | ipod |
| 21:52:50 | preglow | yea |
| 21:53:38 | thprdkkt|away | just missing the wheel :( |
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| 21:54:30 | Mult|PaSs | Hey guys |
| 21:54:57 | thprdkkt|away | by the way, i think it would be good (for popularity) if you would show more screenshots from the differents functions of rockbox |
| 21:55:16 | dionoea | hi |
| 21:55:21 | thprdkkt|away | (i say this because i dont realy have an imagination how it looks) |
| 21:55:25 | Mult|PaSs | Just installed rockbox on G4 grey Ipod. All works great. I'm charging my ipod using firewire with adapter. But when I hold play pressed it only Reboots, not full shutdown! |
| 21:56:50 | Mult|PaSs | I have to go to orginal firmware, and shut it down there! Then its off and i see the battery loading |
| 21:57:19 | thprdkkt|away | im now in the firmware directory, which file is the "heart" / mainfile of rockbox |
| 21:57:24 | thprdkkt|away | where should i start reading |
| 21:57:36 | * | thprdkkt|away is now realy away for 2 min,... eating |
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| 21:58:41 | obo | Mult|PaSs: try unplugging the firewire before shutting down? |
| 21:59:08 | Mult|PaSs | let me try. So is it a 'bug' that needs to be fixed? |
| 21:59:22 | * | thprdkkt|away is back |
| 21:59:31 | obo | AFAIK rockbox doesn't detect firewire connections properly |
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| 22:00:13 | Mult|PaSs | k |
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| 22:02:11 | Mult|PaSs | anyhow.. its nice .. I dont get why ipod sells that much? The basic 'filesystem' = horror |
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| 22:04:19 | theprodukkt | re |
| 22:04:29 | theprodukkt | (disconnect) |
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| 22:05:30 | Mult|PaSs | MM |
| 22:05:55 | Mult|PaSs | When I shut it down in rockbox. And connect the power it boots automaticly! |
| 22:06:27 | theprodukkt | i ask again because im not sure if you got that question: from which FILE should i start to get to know the rockbox source (im in the firmware dir) |
| 22:06:33 | theprodukkt | which is the file first loaded |
| 22:07:12 | Mmmm | Am I correct in thinking that targets without HAVE_LCD_BITMAP defined dont need to have lcd_update() called...ever? |
| 22:07:30 | dionoea | lcd_update needs to be called on all the targets |
| 22:07:55 | theprodukkt | performance ;)? |
| 22:08:03 | dionoea | or lcd_update_rect if you only want to refresh part of the lcd |
| 22:08:14 | Mmmm | so why isnt update defined in struct screens for targets without HAVE_LCD_BITMAP defined? |
| 22:08:35 | Mmmm | (in screen_access.c) |
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| 22:08:47 | * | dionoea doesn't know |
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| 22:09:00 | dionoea | you should ask one of the core developers :) |
| 22:09:19 | Mmmm | any core devs listening? :) |
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| 22:10:35 | thprdkkt|noob | #ifdef IAUDIO_X5 |
| 22:10:35 | thprdkkt|noob | (void)rc_on_button; |
| 22:10:35 | thprdkkt|noob | (void)on_button; |
| 22:10:35 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK thprdkkt|noob |
| 22:10:35 | thprdkkt|noob | (void)data; |
| 22:10:44 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ what do the 3 lines (void) do? |
| 22:10:52 | dionoea | prevent compiler warnings |
| 22:10:54 | dionoea | i think |
| 22:11:00 | thprdkkt|noob | (youre allowed 2 explain me c++ :) |
| 22:11:14 | Mmmm | amiconn: does the Archos player ever need lcd_update() to be called? |
| 22:11:18 | dionoea | else it would complained about unused vars |
| 22:11:39 | dionoea | Mmmm: oh, i read *without* ... ok |
| 22:11:43 | amiconn | Mmmm: Not the target. It doesn't even have that function. |
| 22:11:50 | amiconn | The player sim does, however |
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| 22:12:11 | dionoea | err *with* |
| 22:12:26 | thprdkkt|noob | is the bootloader already part of rockbox? |
| 22:12:52 | thprdkkt|noob | . / does rockbox use parts from the bootloader dir? |
| 22:13:30 | thprdkkt|noob | hm, maybe i should start reading the readme! |
| 22:13:51 | linuxstb_ | thprdkkt|noob: The low-level Rockbox code is in firmware/. The bootloader (in bootloader/) and Rockbox itself (the code in apps/) both use the code in firmware/ |
| 22:13:54 | Mmmm | amiconn: ok so I can just completely get rid of it? (I'm changing to screens[i] gui) or will that muck up the simulator in a #ifndef HAVE_LCD_BITMAP |
| 22:14:18 | thprdkkt|noob | thx |
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| 22:14:40 | linuxstb_ | thprdkkt|noob: The first code is in firmware/crt0.S, which then calls main() in apps/main.c |
| 22:15:18 | thprdkkt|noob | i dont like the cross site (file) scripting :( |
| 22:15:24 | Mmmm | amiconn: I suppose there is one foolproof way to find out eh? :D |
| 22:15:28 | thprdkkt|noob | always jump from one file to the next :/ |
| 22:16:20 | thprdkkt|noob | jeah, assembler |
| 22:16:22 | thprdkkt|noob | ... |
| 22:16:27 | thprdkkt|noob | now ill ask for some commands xD |
| 22:16:37 | thprdkkt|noob | some? a lot! |
| 22:17:08 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 22:17:08 | * | thprdkkt|noob asks himself how old the devs are... |
| 22:17:30 | * | thprdkkt|noob and how long they are coding |
| 22:18:00 | * | thprdkkt|noob also would like to know if coding is the right expression... |
| 22:18:25 | thprdkkt|noob | wow, ^^ an interrested teen^^ |
| 22:19:26 | midkay | surprising indeed! |
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| 22:21:13 | thprdkkt|noob | if i bother you just say somethink or kick me or something like that, but please dont be that silent |
| 22:21:48 | midkay | huh? people are busy.. |
| 22:22:03 | midkay | get used to silence, this isn't always an active channel. |
| 22:22:19 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ :'( |
| 22:22:22 | | Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:22:31 | thprdkkt|noob | im a maniac ... |
| 22:22:41 | * | linuxstb_ notes that there's a World Cup semi-final being played as well... |
| 22:22:52 | * | thprdkkt|noob knows |
| 22:23:02 | * | thprdkkt|noob hopes germany will win |
| 22:23:09 | _FireFly_ | moep |
| 22:23:15 | * | dionoea hopes the loose :) |
| 22:23:20 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ |
| 22:23:27 | thprdkkt|noob | schneider |
| 22:23:30 | thprdkkt|noob | ballack |
| 22:23:32 | thprdkkt|noob | podolski |
| 22:23:38 | thprdkkt|noob | nooooooo |
| 22:23:52 | * | thprdkkt|noob is german |
| 22:23:56 | * | dionoea is french |
| 22:24:23 | * | _FireFly_ is a fly on fire ;) |
| 22:24:28 | * | thprdkkt|noob thinks dionoea has poor of playing against germany in the final |
| 22:24:30 | dionoea | :) |
| 22:24:48 | dionoea | thprdkkt|noob: well ... it's in germany ... not italy :) |
| 22:24:58 | thprdkkt|noob | ? |
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| 22:25:22 | thprdkkt|noob | what do u mean |
| 22:25:26 | thprdkkt|noob | noo |
| 22:25:28 | dionoea | it's easier to play when 99% of the people in the stadium aren't supporting the other team |
| 22:25:39 | thprdkkt|noob | hehe |
| 22:25:50 | thprdkkt|noob | not 99% |
| 22:26:01 | thprdkkt|noob | not even 75 i think |
| 22:26:27 | thprdkkt|noob | but i dont exactly know, maybe even 99% but i wouldnt think so |
| 22:26:41 | dionoea | i'd guess about 80% |
| 22:26:49 | thprdkkt|noob | that assembler pisses me off |
| 22:27:05 | thprdkkt|noob | i exactly understand 0% :) |
| 22:27:40 | thprdkkt|noob | at least i dont understand why those commands are standing there |
| 22:27:48 | thprdkkt|noob | what theyre doing as an unit |
| 22:28:03 | thprdkkt|noob | just understand (somtimes) the meaning of 1 single |
| 22:28:31 | thprdkkt|noob | are there people out in the world who can read / understand assembler like a book? |
| 22:29:53 | | Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:30:28 | linuxstb_ | crt0.S contains about 3 or 4 different assembly languages - it's the init code for all the different platforms. It just does low-level stuff like initialising the memory and setting up the stack. You can safely ignore it and start reading apps/main.c |
| 22:30:48 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ atm doin |
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| 22:30:59 | S0ap | anyone here use irfanview to batch convert album art? I can't get it to drop the output in the same folder as the input. |
| 22:31:01 | thprdkkt|noob | but i hate jumping from one file to the other |
| 22:31:23 | thprdkkt|noob | id love a simply structure :) |
| 22:31:28 | thprdkkt|noob | top-down |
| 22:31:59 | thprdkkt|noob | but i think inpossible in here.. |
| 22:32:08 | thprdkkt|noob | (i do NOT like the gotos) |
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| 22:32:27 | * | thprdkkt|noob continues reading |
| 22:32:34 | * | thprdkkt|noob 's head smokes |
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| 22:33:41 | thprdkkt|noob | nooooooooo |
| 22:33:43 | thprdkkt|noob | thats false |
| 22:33:47 | thprdkkt|noob | it wasnt a foul |
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| 22:34:18 | * | _FireFly_ gives thprdkkt|noob a big glass of water for cooling his head |
| 22:34:53 | * | thprdkkt|noob thinks firefly could need it more.. *givin back* |
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| 22:36:14 | thprdkkt|noob | first command in init() is: init_threads(), but how can i know in which file it is declared? |
| 22:36:22 | dionoea | grep |
| 22:36:32 | thprdkkt|noob | grep? |
| 22:36:44 | dionoea | hum ... using windows ? |
| 22:36:54 | thprdkkt|noob | actually yes |
| 22:37:02 | dionoea | <windows key>+f then :) |
| 22:37:06 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ |
| 22:37:35 | dionoea | some IDEs have features that allow jumping to a function's definitition |
| 22:37:42 | dionoea | (when you left click on the function) |
| 22:37:45 | dionoea | err .. right click |
| 22:37:46 | * | petur wonders if if S0ap is still wondering about irfanview |
| 22:37:56 | thprdkkt|noob | first i have to download the tarball |
| 22:37:57 | thprdkkt|noob | ... |
| 22:38:03 | thprdkkt|noob | was reading the online version |
| 22:38:33 | S0ap | petur - I am |
| 22:38:39 | thprdkkt|noob | :( :( :( |
| 22:38:44 | thprdkkt|noob | ballack, do it |
| 22:39:14 | petur | S0ap: in the batch conversion dialog there's a button 'Use this directory as output' I think that says it all ;) |
| 22:39:47 | S0ap | But it doesn't do what I need. |
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| 22:39:57 | S0ap | I have 500 album folders with folder.jpgs. |
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| 22:40:11 | petur | oh I see |
| 22:40:13 | S0ap | I want to batch convert all of them. That function puts all the outputs in the one parent directory. |
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| 22:40:30 | petur | heh, never needed that before |
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| 22:41:30 | petur | maybe you can use it as commandline util and recursively go through it with a batfile |
| 22:41:33 | thprdkkt|noob | it wasnt a foul was it? |
| 22:41:50 | thprdkkt|noob | HE SIMULATES!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:42:59 | S0ap | my batch files are rusty, but you are probably right. The tools are there. |
| 22:42:59 | linuxstb_ | earHertz: As you're currently immersed in ARM assembly, you might want to have a look at optimising the ATA read/write sectors functions - see firmware/drivers/ata.c (copy_read_sectors and copy_write_sectors). |
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| 22:43:35 | thprdkkt|noob | i wanna help :) |
| 22:43:44 | thprdkkt|noob | just tell me how ;) |
| 22:44:27 | Mmmm | WOW!! have you seen the wiki? |
| 22:44:56 | thprdkkt|noob | wiki? |
| 22:45:03 | thprdkkt|noob | where |
| 22:45:16 | petur | S0ap: maybe I can help, I wrote a little dir recurser some years ago that deals with all possible dir names (with spaces and such), called fae (find and execute) |
| 22:45:30 | Mmmm | thprdkkt|noob: have a look here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ReleaseTodo fix something, make a patch post it on the tracker |
| 22:46:03 | Mmmm | The WIKI has just been redone it is looking right proper smart i must say! |
| 22:46:09 | thprdkkt|noob | ill have a look |
| 22:46:30 | S0ap | petur - should I google it. |
| 22:46:46 | petur | no, it was never released, just wrote it for myself |
| 22:46:56 | thprdkkt|noob | the colors have changed :/ |
| 22:47:00 | petur | one sec, I'll put it somewhere |
| 22:48:38 | thprdkkt|noob | is somewhere a bugtracker? |
| 22:49:11 | Mmmm | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4 |
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| 22:51:54 | thprdkkt|noob | those bugs are only freezes and hangs ... :/ |
| 22:53:16 | | Quit damaki_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 22:53:53 | Mmmm | So fix em! ;) |
| 22:54:34 | linuxstb_ | "only" ? |
| 22:54:51 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ dont know where to look for that bugs :) |
| 22:55:02 | thprdkkt|noob | looking for easy feature requests |
| 22:55:23 | linuxstb_ | I think they've all been taken long ago... |
| 22:55:36 | Mmmm | look under 'feature requests' |
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| 22:56:45 | thprdkkt|noob | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4809 |
| 22:56:49 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ wanted to fix that |
| 22:56:53 | thprdkkt|noob | but its already fixed :( |
| 22:56:58 | thprdkkt|noob | and im missing the source ;) |
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| 23:01:49 | qwm | fsck germany, italy will win! |
| 23:02:00 | thprdkkt|noob | noooooo! |
| 23:02:03 | qwm | yes! |
| 23:02:14 | thprdkkt|noob | nooooo |
| 23:02:30 | qwm | they're cornered! |
| 23:02:34 | Bagder | go tell a channel that cares |
| 23:02:38 | preglow | yes! |
| 23:03:01 | preglow | god, how i hate football |
| 23:03:12 | qwm | :/ |
| 23:03:23 | thprdkkt|noob | are there many kids out there like me |
| 23:03:30 | thprdkkt|noob | talking a lot of shit |
| 23:03:37 | thprdkkt|noob | but not doing anything |
| 23:03:46 | thprdkkt|noob | due to theyre 2 stupid |
| 23:03:47 | thprdkkt|noob | ? |
| 23:03:59 | Bagder | lazy is the word :-) |
| 23:04:12 | qwm | thprdkkt|noob: i'm definitely one of them! |
| 23:04:24 | qwm | watching is always better than doing. |
| 23:04:33 | thprdkkt|noob | id like to help |
| 23:04:42 | thprdkkt|noob | but dont know how |
| 23:04:48 | thprdkkt|noob | reading reading reading |
| 23:04:52 | thprdkkt|noob | but not writing xD |
| 23:04:59 | _FireFly_ | Bagder: you said it ;) |
| 23:05:55 | thprdkkt|noob | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5059# |
| 23:06:00 | thprdkkt|noob | ill try to catch this |
| 23:06:07 | thprdkkt|noob | doest look hard |
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| 23:07:07 | Mmmm | thprdkkt|noob: You could always look on the forums and give Llorean a hand if you don't fancy coding! |
| 23:07:33 | thprdkkt|noob | ive a question |
| 23:07:44 | thprdkkt|noob | in the database.c i found following code |
| 23:07:50 | thprdkkt|noob | while(min<max) { int mid=(min+max)/2; int compare; getfentrybyrecord(id,mid); compare=strcasecmp(id->path,sbuf); if(compare==0) return 1; else if(compare<0) max=mid; else min=mid+1; } |
| 23:07:57 | thprdkkt|noob | im not good at c |
| 23:08:10 | thprdkkt|noob | (realy said: horrible) |
| 23:08:20 | midkay | thprdkkt|noob, that's probably one o the harder ones on the tracker.. |
| 23:08:38 | thprdkkt|noob | but doest it fractionate the ram / use time if the var mid is declared each time new? |
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| 23:09:16 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ really? maybe ill get a donation for doin it xD |
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| 23:13:10 | Mult|PaSs | Is it normal for a 4G when you put it on powersource that automaticly boots? (it was turned off) |
| 23:13:47 | S0ap | is the powersource a USB cable connected to the computer? |
| 23:14:01 | linuxstb_ | Mult|PaSs: Yes. |
| 23:14:36 | Mult|PaSs | firewire with poweradapter |
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| 23:18:48 | thprdkkt|noob | its one of the harder ones :( |
| 23:19:04 | Bagder | we're down to only two mi4 files not decodable |
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| 23:19:40 | obo | have you managed to run modified code yet? |
| 23:19:45 | Bagder | no |
| 23:19:55 | Bagder | for h10 there should be nothing left to solve |
| 23:20:03 | Bagder | but there's one left for the sansa case |
| 23:20:12 | obo | 102 vs 103? |
| 23:20:18 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:20:29 | Bagder | the sha-1 checksum |
| 23:20:39 | obo | sounds promising anyway - that's an awful lot of new targets :) |
| 23:20:59 | Bagder | oh yeah, but most of them without any volunteers |
| 23:21:28 | earHertz | Bagder: the linux kernel memcpy is faster |
| 23:21:30 | obo | true. how much difference is there in the rest of the implementation? |
| 23:21:43 | Bagder | earHertz: I just read the forum post |
| 23:21:47 | earHertz | :) |
| 23:22:02 | linuxstb_ | "most" of them? Are there _any_ volunteers for any of these portalplayer targets? |
| 23:22:18 | Bagder | obo: I would guess that there's a differences in what chips and other non-PP HW that is used |
| 23:22:26 | Nico_P | what would these volunteers have to do now ? |
| 23:22:32 | thprdkkt|noob | does anybody know where the output of the id3tag database is coded (where its results are showed?) |
| 23:22:33 | Nico_P | write drivers ? |
| 23:22:48 | Bagder | linuxstb: I'm sort of volunteering for Sansa ;-) |
| 23:23:03 | obo | thprdkkt|noob: are you still looking in database.c? |
| 23:23:11 | Bagder | Nico_P: try a modified mi4 to start with |
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| 23:23:46 | thprdkkt|noob | i dont think its the right file |
| 23:24:17 | obo | I think I'm right in saying that the code in database.c isn't used anymore. |
| 23:24:28 | Nico_P | <Bagder> for h10 there should be nothing left to solve |
| 23:24:29 | Nico_P | does this mean theoretically modified code could be executed on the H10 in the current state ? |
| 23:24:30 | thprdkkt|noob | ?!? |
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| 23:24:39 | linuxstb_ | obo: Check apps/SOURCES to be sure... |
| 23:24:48 | Bagder | Nico_P: yes, it certainly seems so |
| 23:24:53 | Nico_P | that's cool |
| 23:25:03 | Bagder | but we have no h10 hacker around to try it |
| 23:25:16 | obo | yup, not in there - it's the tagdb and runtimedb code |
| 23:25:26 | thprdkkt|noob | ?!? |
| 23:25:31 | thprdkkt|noob | i see it right here |
| 23:25:37 | obo | yeah, but it's not used |
| 23:25:42 | Nico_P | my bro has an H10 (thus all the questions), but i'm no hacker... could that be of any help ? |
| 23:25:49 | thprdkkt|noob | how do u sea? |
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| 23:26:17 | obo | apps/SOURCES - the file isn't listed in there, so it's not compiled.... plus the features that it added are no longer used |
| 23:26:28 | thprdkkt|noob | FUCK |
| 23:26:29 | thprdkkt|noob | FUCK |
| 23:26:29 | thprdkkt|noob | FUCK |
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| 23:26:33 | thprdkkt|noob | FUCK |
| 23:26:35 | thprdkkt|noob | sry |
| 23:26:37 | thprdkkt|noob | NOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:26:41 | thprdkkt|noob | fuck off italy |
| 23:26:46 | Kick | (#Rockbox thprdkkt|noob :Bagder) by Bagder!n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder |
| 23:26:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 9 |
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| 23:27:05 | linuxstb_ | "kicked" being an appropriate verb... |
| 23:27:32 | DarkJesus | Indeed |
| 23:27:34 | thprdkkt|noob | germany has lost the worldcup :( |
| 23:27:44 | thprdkkt|noob | :'( |
| 23:28:06 | Bagder | there's a worldcup? |
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| 23:28:20 | thprdkkt|noob | omg |
| 23:28:23 | thprdkkt|noob | now its over |
| 23:28:25 | Nico_P | wow another goal |
| 23:28:31 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ |
| 23:28:40 | thprdkkt|noob | they are playin 117 minutes |
| 23:28:49 | thprdkkt|noob | and in the last 3 italy shoots 2 goals |
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| 23:29:31 | vzabalza | Hi everyone |
| 23:29:41 | vzabalza | I just created a new lang file for catalan |
| 23:29:53 | vzabalza | and was woindering the best way to include it in RB |
| 23:29:58 | Nico_P | Bagder: how difficult would it be to give a hand on the H10 ? |
| 23:30:03 | vzabalza | I have submitted it to the patch tracker |
| 23:30:09 | vzabalza | is that the way to go? |
| 23:30:16 | Bagder | vzabalza: that's the way |
| 23:30:24 | vzabalza | great |
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| 23:30:43 | Bagder | Nico_P: well, you'd need to decode the mi4 and then try altering the binary and then regenerete a new mi4 from that and upgrade to it |
| 23:30:46 | thprdkkt|noob | ^^ look him, hes just working without working like a dumb*** unlike me :/ |
| 23:30:49 | Bagder | as a first step |
| 23:31:03 | linuxstb_ | vzabalza: molt be. |
| 23:31:08 | vzabalza | jeje |
| 23:31:27 | Bagder | oooh, hidden talents |
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| 23:31:47 | vzabalza | it works on the official build, but I'm having problems with the h300 experimental buildsç |
| 23:31:57 | linuxstb_ | I know a tiny amount of Catalan - my g/f is from Barcelona... |
| 23:32:06 | vzabalza | anyway, I'll try to solve that with their creator |
| 23:32:26 | Bagder | vzabalza: they probably have the english.lang patched |
| 23:32:29 | vzabalza | she must be astonishingly beatiful, then ;-) |
| 23:32:32 | Bagder | or something |
| 23:32:43 | vzabalza | that must be it |
| 23:32:47 | vzabalza | Didn't think of that |
| 23:33:23 | thprdkkt|noob | still cannot find the file in which the output of the id3tag database is written |
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| 23:39:56 | Nico_P | Bagder: what sort of modifications would it require ? could i try a trivial one just to test the (de)coding[quote="Nico404"]Salut à tous |
| 23:39:56 | Nico_P | Je cherche trois titre playlistés par Mylo au Mix vendredi dernier. |
| 23:39:56 | Nico_P | Ils sont écoutables dans les vidéos que j'ai mises [url=http://nico404.free.fr/Mylo/]ici[/url]. |
| 23:39:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Nico_P |
| 23:39:56 | Nico_P | J'ai aussi extrait le son seul pour vous éviter de télécharger les vidéos : |
| 23:39:56 | Nico_P | [url=http://nico404.free.fr/Mylo/extrait_1520.mp3]extrait 1[/url] |
| 23:39:57 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 23:39:57 | Nico_P | [url=http://nico404.free.fr/Mylo/extrait_1521.mp3]extrait 2[/url] |
| 23:39:59 | Nico_P | [url=http://nico404.free.fr/Mylo/extrait_1522.mp3]extrait 3[/url][/quote] |
| 23:40:01 | Nico_P | sorry |
| 23:40:22 | Bagder | Nico_P: yes, it would be enough to just change a string |
| 23:42:09 | Nico_P | would the unit be recoverable if the modified MI4 file is invalid ? |
| 23:42:46 | Bagder | well, for starters you should change a text that doesn't ruin it. |
| 23:43:05 | Bagder | then I would expect that the upgrade procedure validates it being fine and rejects it otherwise |
| 23:43:12 | Bagder | fine in the crc32 sense |
| 23:43:36 | Bagder | then if everything still goes boom, I have no idea how much that works or not |
| 23:44:09 | | Quit Mmmm ("Byeee") |
| 23:44:12 | Nico_P | hmmm |
| 23:45:46 | | Quit damaki (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:48:52 | Nico_P | gtg... thanks for the info on the H10 ;) |
| 23:49:04 | Nico_P | and sorry again for posting my garbage |
| 23:49:09 | Nico_P | bye |
| 23:49:11 | | Quit Nico_P () |
| 23:49:58 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 23:50:08 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: Do you know the LCD module in the Sansa? Is there a datasheet available? |
| 23:50:16 | | Quit damaki__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 23:51:03 | Bagder | no, no such info yet |
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