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| 00:11:08 | Mult|PaSs | is there a way to config the buttons of rockbox so it acts like ipod navigation? |
| 00:13:39 | dwihno | Button reconfiguration requires you to change the source code and recompile the firmware. |
| 00:13:47 | Mult|PaSs | :( k |
| 00:17:20 | linuxstb_ | Mult|PaSs: What would you want to change? |
| 00:17:42 | Mult|PaSs | i like rockbox better in all ways except the button config |
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| 00:18:04 | Mult|PaSs | MENU is back.. that was easy :) |
| 00:18:20 | linuxstb_ | MENU brings up the menu... What other key would you use for that? |
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| 00:18:52 | |apo| | linuxstb: Why, the Big Red Button of course. |
| 00:18:58 | dwihno | Learning the rockbox button mapping is not too hard... |
| 00:19:31 | Mult|PaSs | why do I need the menu? its got the settings and playlists. (dont use playlists |
| 00:19:39 | S0ap | yay - three reboots later it finally found all my new folders! |
| 00:19:51 | Mult|PaSs | I just want the menu to be the 'back' button like originally is |
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| 00:22:21 | S0ap | I upped the maximum # of folders to 600 (I only have 575), and turned off the cache, rebooted, yet it still didn't display all my new folders. rebooted twice more and there they were. |
| 00:22:39 | linuxstb_ | Mult|PaSs: Remember also that Rockbox runs on a large number of DAPs from various different manufacturers - the aim is not to mimic one particular DAP's original firmware, but to provide a consistent interface across all DAPs. |
| 00:23:31 | Mult|PaSs | true. But a configger with a gui would be nice. But I will survive |
| 00:23:43 | Mult|PaSs | thanx for making rockbox btw.. if there are coders in here :) |
| 00:24:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
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| 00:24:45 | dwihno | Mult|PaSs: honestly, I think it's more intuitive to have "left" as back instead of menu |
| 00:26:08 | S0ap | I agree it is more logical, but more intuitive after years of ipoding??? |
| 00:27:49 | dwihno | Nah |
| 00:27:53 | dwihno | Probably not :) |
| 00:28:12 | dwihno | To be honest, I never tried playing anything back using the ipod fw |
| 00:29:39 | S0ap | It's not bad, but i am so used to browing the directory tree. |
| 00:30:14 | S0ap | my albums not being sorted by artist, but not year of release kills me. |
| 00:30:26 | S0ap | (scratch the first "not") |
| 00:30:39 | dwihno | Tag cache to the rescue? |
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| 00:31:37 | Mult|PaSs | I really dont understand how you can use the original apple software and enjoy 500 albums! |
| 00:31:46 | Mult|PaSs | Unless you make a playlist from every album |
| 00:32:08 | S0ap | nah, directory tree is good enough. Mine folders are all <Artist> - <Year> - <Album Title> |
| 00:32:16 | S0ap | *my |
| 00:32:16 | Mult|PaSs | that is what i like so much about rockbox. It works like Explorer. From A-Z |
| 00:32:27 | dwihno | S0ap: Yeah, I'm too a directory tree person.... |
| 00:32:43 | dwihno | Artist - Album (year) |
| 00:32:47 | Mult|PaSs | Mijn Artist - Album/Trck - Artist - Title.mp3 |
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| 00:32:52 | Mult|PaSs | Year is in tag :) |
| 00:33:17 | linuxstb_ | artist/year-album/track.flac |
| 00:33:18 | dwihno | Artist - Album (year)/01. Title.mp3 |
| 00:33:27 | dwihno | way! flac! |
| 00:33:31 | Mult|PaSs | what is a Good font to use? my dad cant read rockbox font :))) |
| 00:33:40 | S0ap | the ipod native FW and VA albums don't get along. I have only a couple of dozen VAs, but they pollute the "Artist" view on the ipod. |
| 00:34:02 | Mult|PaSs | soap yeah |
| 00:34:04 | Mult|PaSs | man I hate that |
| 00:34:12 | Mult|PaSs | you end up with 8000 artists |
| 00:34:17 | S0ap | exactly. |
| 00:34:18 | Mult|PaSs | while you only know 200 |
| 00:34:24 | Mult|PaSs | 7800 are from crappy VA's |
| 00:34:31 | Mult|PaSs | one day 'hit' wonders :) |
| 00:34:33 | dwihno | Moving is a bad thing when you realize you don't have a slightest idea where the SecureDigital chips are and you need them tomorrow... |
| 00:34:45 | linuxstb_ | That annoyed me as well - even albums with guest performers on certain tracks give a whole new artist |
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| 00:35:12 | timemob | lol |
| 00:35:14 | Mult|PaSs | native FW is a laugh.. |
| 00:35:48 | Mult|PaSs | really dont understand why ppl love it.. When you choose ALBUM, you only get album names! Like you know every single album name of every artist |
| 00:36:10 | timemob | so i plugged my nano to usb to charge for a few hours then powered that pc off. |
| 00:36:17 | Mult|PaSs | And you get ZZ-top maybe first because the album starts with an A |
| 00:36:30 | timemob | this morning i gota dead batt |
| 00:37:04 | timemob | gg rockbox devs |
| 00:38:39 | timemob | da fuq is album? |
| 00:39:08 | timemob | all my mp3s are named as crc32.mp3 |
| 00:39:15 | Mult|PaSs | lol |
| 00:39:18 | Mult|PaSs | u got issues |
| 00:39:20 | timemob | in one dir |
| 00:41:01 | timemob | now playing: 38B04F51.MP3 |
| 00:42:15 | midkay | Mult|PaSs, hm, instead of browsing by ALL albums what would you propose? |
| 00:42:18 | timemob | rockbox needs autorename to crc32 function |
| 00:42:37 | midkay | if you browse by album of course you should be able to.. gasp.. view a list of all albums. |
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| 00:42:42 | midkay | otherwise you wouldn't be using that mode. |
| 00:42:53 | Mult|PaSs | yes of course |
| 00:42:55 | timemob | hy |
| 00:43:02 | Mult|PaSs | but you dont know what artist it is |
| 00:43:10 | Mult|PaSs | so why not ALBUM - ARTIST |
| 00:43:15 | midkay | and? if you know the album, it doesn't matter what the artist is.. |
| 00:43:19 | timemob | status of implementing crc32 in rockbox |
| 00:43:22 | midkay | why not then just browse by artist? much quicker. |
| 00:43:34 | Mult|PaSs | dude when you got 400 cd's you dont now all the names |
| 00:43:39 | midkay | then use the ARTIST mode, huh? |
| 00:43:51 | Mult|PaSs | that sux more because all the VA ppl are in the list to |
| 00:43:52 | Mult|PaSs | :) |
| 00:44:06 | midkay | when you do happen to know the album name then album mode might be useful, but it's not meant to be the primary browsing mode. |
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| 00:45:37 | timemob | i want rockbox to have function to calc crc32 of mp3 then rename to crc32.mp3 plz |
| 00:45:44 | Mult|PaSs | listening to vivaldi's III Presto :) |
| 00:45:53 | Mult|PaSs | lol timemob.. just clean your ipod and put it all back on |
| 00:46:17 | timemob | why |
| 00:46:28 | timemob | how does that help |
| 00:47:08 | timemob | i want all my mp3s to be 8.3 |
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| 00:48:09 | timemob | GREATE~1.MP3 |
| 00:49:11 | timemob | is dum but 1234ABCD.MP3 isnt |
| 00:49:44 | Mult|PaSs | why you want all 8.3 |
| 00:49:46 | timemob | .gh |
| 00:49:46 | timemob | .gh |
| 00:49:56 | timemob | has to be |
| 00:50:29 | timemob | everything must be 8.3 |
| 00:50:33 | PaulJam | timemob: then either implement it yourself or find a dev that is interested in that function |
| 00:50:55 | PaulJam | why don't you just rename the files on the pc? |
| 00:51:23 | timemob | also i request rockbox.ipod to rename to ROCKBOX.IPO |
| 00:52:12 | timemob | cuz thats the only other non-compliant file |
| 00:52:24 | PaulJam | timemob: what about the .rockbox folder? |
| 00:52:45 | timemob | oshi~ |
| 00:52:59 | qwm | argh. trying to figure out how udev works.. anyone? |
| 00:53:10 | timemob | lol udev |
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| 00:53:53 | qwm | got any problem with it? :p |
| 00:54:04 | timemob | i want rename function on ipod to do it automatically |
| 00:54:31 | timemob | now i calc crc32 and rename manually |
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| 00:55:20 | linuxstb_ | Those long summer evenings must just fly by... |
| 00:55:57 | timemob | and i want dirname theyare in if any to be xor of crc32 of all files inside |
| 00:56:31 | PaulJam | and i want a pony! |
| 00:56:37 | timemob | a|b|c etc |
| 00:56:48 | timemob | er ^ |
| 00:57:03 | * | obo thinks the pony is more likely to turn up |
| 00:57:12 | timemob | a^b^c |
| 00:57:41 | PaulJam | these guys at last.fm promised me one, but i never got it. |
| 00:57:59 | timemob | is this best done by plugin or? |
| 00:58:27 | timemob | menu in filebrowser? |
| 00:59:09 | timemob | hi? |
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| 01:01:45 | timemob | if rockbox had a lua scripting engine i could add this myself |
| 01:02:08 | midkay | hah. |
| 01:02:10 | midkay | a. |
| 01:03:24 | timemob | so how to add crc32 renamer? |
| 01:04:04 | PaulJam | timemob: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 01:04:28 | timemob | yes but where |
| 01:04:41 | timemob | in file manager? |
| 01:04:47 | timemob | or plugin? |
| 01:05:04 | timemob | or else..? |
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| 01:06:41 | |apo| | timemob: PaulJam's telling you to make a plugin yourself. |
| 01:06:49 | timemob | hello? |
| 01:06:51 | |apo| | If you don't know how, tough luck. |
| 01:07:13 | timemob | i know lua |
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| 01:07:26 | midkay | rockbox doesn't support or use lua in any way. |
| 01:07:30 | timemob | does rockbox plugin in lua? |
| 01:07:39 | timemob | oic |
| 01:07:44 | timemob | why not |
| 01:07:56 | midkay | because we don't need or want it. rockbox is written in C. |
| 01:08:11 | PaulJam | i think it is your choice how to implement it. i doubt that it has a chance to get committed anyway. |
| 01:08:29 | midkay | yeah, quite an.. esoteric plugin. |
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| 01:08:42 | timemob | why are you so sure |
| 01:08:48 | midkay | so sure of what? |
| 01:09:02 | midkay | who on earth wants to rename all their mp3s with their crcs? very few.. |
| 01:09:14 | midkay | in fact, what is the point, may i ask? |
| 01:09:26 | timemob | many people havent discovered the joy of 8.3 mp3s |
| 01:09:35 | midkay | 8.3 mp3s? |
| 01:09:51 | PaulJam | maybe some kind of brain training |
| 01:09:53 | timemob | thats what it would rename to |
| 01:09:55 | |apo| | midkay: mp3s with 8 byte filenames and 3 byte extensions, I guess |
| 01:10:01 | timemob | crc32.mp3 |
| 01:10:37 | midkay | timemob, well, i don't think you've discovered the lack-of-joy of them.. i really, really doubt you'll find a person in here who's remotely interested in that. |
| 01:10:42 | timemob | like 1234ABCD.MP3 |
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| 01:12:11 | timemob | then i will have to do it myself |
| 01:12:20 | midkay | gee, ya think? :) |
| 01:12:53 | timemob | first you must add lua support though |
| 01:13:06 | midkay | that's getting pretty old. |
| 01:13:31 | midkay | you got linked to a guide, nobody cares about "8.3 mp3s", you're welcome to figure it out if you're so interested in randomly-named files. |
| 01:13:56 | timemob | you just hate lua cuz its written by brazilian |
| 01:14:00 | PaulJam | it would be nice to have a plugin that compares the crc of the audiodata in an mp3 with the music crc stored in the lame header. |
| 01:14:04 | midkay | damn, how'd you know?! |
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| 01:15:30 | timemob | how can you add a crc to file without changing crc? |
| 01:16:07 | linuxstb_ | "crc of the audiodata" |
| 01:16:30 | timemob | midcay because racial hate for languages is common |
| 01:17:07 | timemob | like people hate python cuz its by a spic |
| 01:17:11 | timemob | brb |
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| 01:17:45 | |apo| | [01:16:31] <timemob> midcay because racial hate for languages is common < Yup |
| 01:17:50 | |apo| | I hate French, for example. |
| 01:18:23 | midkay | midcay. haha. |
| 01:18:41 | |apo| | ^^ |
| 01:18:51 | |apo| | That guy's kinda funny |
| 01:18:59 | midkay | really? |
| 01:19:18 | |apo| | Or it's just that I have a weird sense of humor :P |
| 01:19:39 | midkay | i'll laugh at nearly anything, but this is just stupid.. |
| 01:20:04 | |apo| | True |
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| 02:30:06 | midkay | what the hell. |
| 02:30:08 | midkay | the wiki's.. uh. |
| 02:30:13 | midkay | weird. |
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| 02:40:15 | midkay | who's working on it? |
| 02:46:07 | pixelma | Zagor is... "15.28.05 # * Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic." ...see the log :) |
| 02:47:44 | midkay | huh. |
| 02:47:51 | midkay | weird. |
| 02:48:00 | midkay | i've been here for.. hours.. it's not in my log. |
| 02:48:16 | dongs | oh wow |
| 02:48:19 | dongs | i like that CRC32 idea. |
| 02:48:38 | midkay | how unexpected.. |
| 02:48:57 | pixelma | yesterday's log of course - it's almost 3am here |
| 02:49:22 | midkay | it can't possibly have been here that long. |
| 02:49:31 | midkay | i just checked it a couple hours ago at most and it was normal.. |
| 02:50:04 | dongs | 22:28 * Zagor is testing the new wiki version. Don't panic. |
| 02:50:28 | midkay | thanks for reiterating uselessly, per usual.. |
| 02:59:20 | dongs | no problem |
| 02:59:23 | dongs | just doing my part |
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| 03:01:08 | midkay | we appreciate it. |
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| 03:21:18 | OPP | hi i have a problem. i cant view the fonts part of rockbox on my ipod is that a problem or am i doing something wrong |
| 03:23:08 | wehn | have you installed the fonts package? |
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| 03:25:31 | OPP | i thought so |
| 03:27:04 | mantono | OPP: you are aware of that ROckbox doesn't come with the same default font as with Apples firmware? |
| 03:27:55 | OPP | lol yes |
| 03:28:01 | OPP | but i went into the font section |
| 03:28:09 | OPP | ok |
| 03:28:13 | OPP | i click on fonts |
| 03:28:17 | OPP | and i see that its loading the menu |
| 03:28:22 | OPP | then nothing happens |
| 03:28:27 | OPP | i dont see any other font choices |
| 03:28:39 | dongs | then you didnt install the fonts package. |
| 03:28:44 | mantono | Okey |
| 03:29:00 | OPP | i downloaded the 'latest fonts' from the daily buid section |
| 03:29:08 | OPP | and put that in |
| 03:29:12 | OPP | if thats what youre talking about |
| 03:30:07 | OPP | wait i restarted and now it works |
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| 03:31:26 | mantono | Hehe, it always works when you ask someone for help ;) |
| 03:32:27 | OPP | ya |
| 03:32:29 | OPP | i guess |
| 03:32:29 | OPP | ty |
| 03:39:18 | OPP | hmm this is great |
| 03:39:28 | OPP | giving a presentation in class and i need to play a song in FLAC |
| 03:48:46 | actionshrimp | record yourself over it and dub |
| 03:50:29 | mantono | OPP: what iPod do you have? |
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| 03:59:10 | OPP | 5g |
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| 04:00:10 | dongs | flac? i think about a total of 0 linux users in your classroom will be able to tell the difference btween your project playing in FLAC vs something INDUSTRY STANDARD like MP3. |
| 04:01:02 | OPP | hah no |
| 04:01:11 | dongs | hah yes |
| 04:01:28 | OPP | no, thats not the circumstances |
| 04:01:34 | OPP | i have a cd ripped in flac |
| 04:01:58 | OPP | and i need to play a song from it |
| 04:02:00 | OPP | in a history class |
| 04:02:23 | dongs | yes but whats stopping you from just decoding flac to .wav and then encoding it to mp3. |
| 04:02:33 | OPP | time |
| 04:02:41 | earHertz | OPP: you an't convert it before the class? |
| 04:02:48 | OPP | i like flac :-D |
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| 05:30:20 | midkay | dongs, why flac->wav->mp3? |
| 05:37:28 | earHertz | midkay: flacs ARE wavs |
| 05:37:38 | earHertz | just losslessly compressed |
| 05:37:42 | midkay | that's why I *ASKED* |
| 05:37:45 | midkay | why he said convert to wav first. |
| 05:37:54 | earHertz | well, he meant decpmpress |
| 05:37:59 | midkay | decompress.. why? |
| 05:38:18 | earHertz | because teh wav->mp3 converter may or may not recognize a flac |
| 05:38:21 | midkay | he said decode, but.. yeah.. either way.. why? |
| 05:38:34 | midkay | uh, why not just use a.. uh... flac->mp3 coverter? what an idea! |
| 05:39:06 | earHertz | midkay: that's against teh unix phiolospohy of one tool for each job, and a bunch or pipes |
| 05:39:17 | midkay | one tool for each job? |
| 05:39:26 | midkay | flac -> wav wav -> mp3 |
| 05:39:29 | midkay | is against one tool for each job. |
| 05:39:36 | earHertz | unflac < foo | lame > fopo.mp3 |
| 05:40:24 | midkay | that's two tools for one job. |
| 05:40:52 | earHertz | 2 jobs |
| 05:41:04 | midkay | flac -> mp3 is one job. |
| 05:41:12 | midkay | you're using two tools to accomplish it. |
| 05:42:13 | midkay | earHertz, i don't think you've been around long enough to discover that dongs is the token channel idiot.. i just wanted to hear from him why he said that, thus why i addressed him in my message. |
| 05:44:14 | earHertz | midkay: no, I got that, from his arguing with OPPs. but even astoped clock is right twice a day |
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| 06:00:39 | Moos | Morning ! |
| 06:01:31 | midkay | morning Moos :) |
| 06:02:45 | midkay | earHertz, nah, he's not a stopped clock, he's a clock that's off time but still running normal speed indefinitely... never right. |
| 06:02:45 | midkay | :) |
| 06:05:12 | earHertz | ;) |
| 06:05:21 | scorche | :) |
| 06:05:43 | midkay | SCORCHE! |
| 06:06:00 | scorche | MIDKAY! |
| 06:06:12 | midkay | :o |
| 06:06:40 | scorche | start uploading the new map please =) |
| 06:07:08 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:07:08 | midkay | soon. |
| 06:07:14 | scorche | why soon? |
| 06:07:18 | midkay | i compiled it last night.. tried it.. cool but way too dark in the room.. |
| 06:07:25 | midkay | literally *just* got out of another test. |
| 06:07:26 | scorche | ah |
| 06:07:36 | midkay | still a bit too dark, fixing that.. couple glitches to fix.. then sure, i'll recompil.e |
| 06:07:37 | midkay | :) |
| 06:08:30 | scorche | vent then |
| 06:09:07 | midkay | then or now, huh?! |
| 06:09:25 | scorche | now |
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| 06:09:53 | midkay | h/o h/o!! |
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| 07:45:25 | americo | good morning everybody |
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| 08:08:21 | g0n | hello all ^^ |
| 08:09:08 | g0n | question: where i can find a nice doom version who works on my h340 ? :) |
| 08:11:01 | markun | g0n: well, you could install rockbox. It comes with doom. |
| 08:11:13 | muesli|delhi | markun ;) |
| 08:11:21 | americo | could somebody tell me if rockbox works on a Digital Player?? |
| 08:11:38 | JdGordon | well it wont work on an analogue one... |
| 08:11:49 | muesli|delhi | wots a digital player?? |
| 08:12:48 | markun | Kenwood made a player with a 'digital amplifier', but we don't support it |
| 08:13:10 | markun | g0n: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
| 08:15:11 | markun | americo: this webpage tells you which players are supported: http://www.rockbox.org/ |
| 08:16:31 | g0n | how can i whisper ? whats the command ? /w ?? :D |
| 08:16:54 | americo | thanks, I saw it so if it isn't archos, ipod, iriver or iaudio, rockbox won't work on it |
| 08:16:59 | americo | ? |
| 08:17:08 | markun | americo: yes |
| 08:17:59 | Malnilion | Not yet anyway. |
| 08:18:23 | markun | americo: which player are you interested in? |
| 08:18:35 | americo | digital player |
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| 08:18:53 | markun | Moos! |
| 08:19:13 | Moos | hi |
| 08:19:14 | Malnilion | americo, got a link handy? |
| 08:19:33 | americo | a spanish link :) |
| 08:19:51 | Malnilion | Esta bien, hablo espanol un poco. :) |
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| 08:21:20 | markun | y yo tambien |
| 08:21:28 | americo | Malnilion: http://www.lasgalerias.com/product_info.php?products_id=1445 |
| 08:22:28 | americo | I couldn't find out what microproccesor use |
| 08:22:43 | Malnilion | Well...that's not even an HD player... |
| 08:22:44 | g0n | markun, my problem is that when i want to start doom on my h340 the game told me " .wad file is missing " |
| 08:23:31 | markun | g0n: did you read the website I sent you and install the .wad files? |
| 08:24:06 | Malnilion | americo, if you look at the players Rockbox was designed for, you'll see that they share some main features that make them similar to each other. |
| 08:24:26 | Malnilion | Features that this player lacks. |
| 08:24:55 | Malnilion | There is no LCD screen, for example. |
| 08:25:32 | Malnilion | Well, not a big enough one to count... |
| 08:26:04 | americo | Its display is LCD 128X32 |
| 08:26:32 | g0n | yap i do. i will check it now how it works. markun |
| 08:27:11 | Malnilion | Bah, I dunno, I don't even know if I'd want a player that small, americo. |
| 08:27:37 | americo | :) |
| 08:27:54 | Malnilion | The other thing is figuring out how to replace the firmware :P |
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| 08:36:40 | g0n | could i have more than 1 doom version ( i mean other doom games like doom 2 or something) on the iriver? |
| 08:39:37 | americo | do you know if Archos, iRiver and iAudio players have the capacity of play the same track in the same second once you turn on after a shutdown? I know that iPod do it |
| 08:40:03 | g0n | i river can do this americo |
| 08:40:52 | g0n | specialty: h340 can do it i know it for 100% ^^ the rest of the players i thnk too but i am not sure |
| 08:41:31 | Malnilion | Yeah, the iAudio X5 picks up where it left off when you hit the play button (and maybe automatically if you configure it to, but I'm not certain). |
| 08:41:58 | JdGordon | yes, there is an option to automatically resume playback when it turns on |
| 08:42:02 | JdGordon | should be on all platforms |
| 08:42:21 | Malnilion | Yep, there you have it :) |
| 08:44:03 | americo | g0n: can u tell me how much your iRiver h340 cost? |
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| 08:58:51 | JdGordon | there is nothing really wrong wih mixing structs and classes in c++ ye? |
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| 09:24:08 | nudelyn | JdGordon: structs and classes are identical in C++, except for the default protection level (public/private). (In C# the two are very different.) |
| 09:24:31 | JdGordon | k |
| 09:26:03 | nudelyn | bit more info here: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/classes-and-objects.html#faq-7.8 |
| 09:26:14 | nudelyn | extremely good site btw |
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| 09:29:40 | UncleBill | hello friends |
| 09:33:14 | UncleBill | I have an iRiver iHP-140 with RockBox on it. like an idiot, I plugged the wrong power charger into it, and it stopped working. I opened it up and I see one charred chip. unfortunately, I can't read the label on the chip and I'm not a hardware-expert. It has six leads, and I'm hopeful it's the only thing broken |
| 09:34:30 | UncleBill | can anyone recommend someone to help me fix it? |
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| 09:38:53 | JdGordon | UncleBill: sounds like thats not gonna be fun to fix |
| 09:39:32 | JdGordon | gah! someone killed the wiki :D |
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| 09:40:19 | petur | JdGordon: no, Zagor is working on it ;) |
| 09:40:42 | Zagor | JdGordon: nah, that's just me toiling around with the new version. the display system is all different, so I'm struggling to rockbox-ify it |
| 09:40:58 | JdGordon | : |
| 09:41:00 | JdGordon | :) |
| 09:41:34 | JdGordon | UncleBill: which chip did u fry? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverInfo has a pic of the pcb |
| 09:43:16 | UncleBill | JdGordon, I'm looking now. I have a picture I've taken of my board; I could post it somewhere and show you |
| 09:44:05 | UncleBill | I looked at the schematics that Linus posted on the rockbox site, but couldn't make much headway of locating the chip |
| 09:45:26 | JdGordon | .. well unless u can figure out which chip u fried there isnt much chance of someone being able to help u :p |
| 09:46:03 | UncleBill | my other issue is that once I find the chip, I'm not sure how to replace it. I've soldered plenty in my life, but never surface mount chips. these things are pretty small. I'll have to figure the proper technique and tools |
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| 09:47:23 | petur | chances are, it won't be the only chip that fried. You'll only know once you replaced the obviously fried one. SMD soldering isn't so hard if you have done normal soldering before, just remember these things don't need much heat to flow ;) |
| 09:47:55 | UncleBill | on the picture you sent me to, JdGordon, I see the chip, but can't read the name there. it's U28, along the bottom edge, directly to the left of the reset button |
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| 09:49:27 | g0n | americo, in germany the h340 cost more than 300 euroe in usa i think 300$ |
| 09:49:29 | UncleBill | I'm sure you're right, petur |
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| 09:54:42 | JdGordon | UncleBill: i think the marking on that chip says "LTXQ" so at least u know what chip u need to get |
| 09:55:56 | JdGordon | has any1 got mame setup on linux? where the heck are u supposed to put the roms? (legally obtained of course...) ive got the .zip's in /usr/share/games/xmame/roms which is where kxmame is looking for them but the available games list stays empty? |
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| 09:56:21 | UncleBill | that looks correct on my model, JdGordon. how did you get that? |
| 09:56:44 | JdGordon | the link to the 16mb jpeg :D http://www.rockbox.org/iriver/front_large.jpg |
| 09:57:22 | UncleBill | hmmm. I'm looking at that as well. my monitor must not be good |
| 09:58:30 | UncleBill | anyone have any idea what this LTXQ 6-legged chip does? |
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| 10:00:14 | JdGordon | probably power of some sort.. would explain why it got fried |
| 10:04:24 | petur | UncleBill: a search on the Linear site gives this: http://www.linear.com/pc/productDetail.do?navId=H0,C3,P1587 |
| 10:05:11 | UncleBill | yes, I see other searches show it's logical this would be the first to fry from improper voltage |
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| 10:10:08 | UncleBill | anyone know anybody in the bay area in the U.S. who'd tackle replacing this regulator chip for me? |
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| 10:17:11 | americo | can rockbox run on arhos AV 400 100 GB? |
| 10:18:54 | americo | I mean on archos |
| 10:18:59 | markun | americo: no |
| 10:19:40 | americo | ok. and on archos gmini either, I suppose |
| 10:20:06 | americo | Âż? |
| 10:20:39 | markun | americo: there was some initial work, but noone is working on it: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GminiPort |
| 10:21:17 | americo | I go there. thank markun |
| 10:28:00 | americo | what about creative? can it support rockbox? |
| 10:28:53 | markun | americo: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos |
| 10:30:08 | americo | thanks again. I was lost reading in the forum |
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| 10:50:45 | Zagor | twiki is starting to look normal again |
| 10:52:27 | petur | just that funky logo at the bottom ;) |
| 10:53:28 | petur | is it me or could the tables do with a tiny bit of padding? |
| 10:54:52 | UncleBill | gotta flee. thanks for the help, JdGordon, petur |
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| 10:57:59 | midkay | aw, i liked the new theme we had for a bit there. |
| 10:58:29 | midkay | i prefer the rockbox colors most certainly.. but i liked the.. dunno.. style/sidebar/layout. |
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| 11:02:35 | Zagor | midkay: yeah me too, but it was a beast to configure. so I fell back to this simpler style. |
| 11:03:05 | midkay | Zagor, ah. either way works, anyways. :) |
| 11:03:34 | midkay | Zagor, so did you upgrade to a new version or something? |
| 11:03:54 | Zagor | yes |
| 11:04:13 | petur | better spam handling? |
| 11:04:37 | Zagor | a bit. at least it includes email verification for registration, so weeds out a few anyway. |
| 11:04:55 | Zagor | but spam handling will always be difficult in wikis |
| 11:05:26 | midkay | ah, that's good.. |
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| 11:08:58 | AM | Hey. I'm working on a patch that uses the menu functionality provided by menu.[ch], but now need to distinguish between long and ordinary click. How do I go about doing that? |
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| 11:29:04 | JdGordon | AM: a long press is button | BUTTON_REPEAT |
| 11:32:12 | midkay | i think he means in the menu.. |
| 11:32:26 | midkay | which would be a problem since i don't believe the menu can do that as-is. |
| 11:41:03 | JdGordon | only because there is no key binding for it |
| 11:41:13 | JdGordon | no reason it couldnt be added.. |
| 11:41:29 | * | JdGordon doesnt think why youd want long press in the menu.. but ok... |
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| 11:55:37 | AM | ok, thanks, so I define a callback function in menu_init and then inside it check for (BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REPEAT)? |
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| 11:59:43 | americo | markum: I don't know if I'm undertanding it really well Creative's Zen Vision:M |
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| 12:12:19 | americo | markum: Creative (ZVM) doesn't support rockbox. Is this true? |
| 12:16:47 | Bg3r | americo more likely the reverse ... |
| 12:18:04 | americo | Bg3r: sorry, what do you mean? That Creative zvm can run rockbox? |
| 12:18:12 | preglow | no |
| 12:20:24 | Bg3r | i mean rockbox doesn't support creative Zen ... |
| 12:23:16 | americo | any creative? |
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| 12:27:45 | markun | americo: if the rockbox site doesn't say it supports a player then you can assume we don't support it |
| 12:28:13 | americo | perfect. understood |
| 12:28:27 | americo | thanks |
| 12:28:39 | markun | americo: these are the only players for which you can download rockbox: http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml |
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| 12:48:39 | JdGordon | AM: no, somewhere in the menu_* function is a switch (button) or similar.. u need to add a case for YOUR_BUTTON | BUTTON_REPEAT |
| 12:49:00 | JdGordon | but you may need to use YOUR_BUTTON_PRE and such painful stuff... |
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| 12:55:09 | * | amiconn wonders what about the _PRE stuff is painful |
| 12:58:35 | JdGordon | ok, not really painful, just annoying.. |
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| 13:20:59 | AM | why do I need to add a case for BUTTON_REPEAT in menu_show (that's the function where switch (key) is)? shouldn't I be able to achieve the same thing by installing a callback function when calling menu_init? |
| 13:21:21 | AM | I'd rather do this without having to modify menu.[ch] if possible |
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| 13:25:30 | AM | I gave the callback approach a try and it works... ...sort of. it detects long clicks, and when it does I've made it display a submenu. but when I go back from the submenu it doesn't immediately update the display (the submenu is still shown until I hit UP or DOWN, then it displays the previous menu). is there some update()-function or similar I need to call? |
| 13:28:09 | Zagor | AM: the menu is designed like this to make sure all menus work the same. adding special keys to menus is likely to cause user confusion. |
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| 13:34:44 | amiconn | AM: The callback is only for manipulating button codes and/or doing additional actions in the same menu, i.e. things not displaying anything. |
| 13:35:00 | amiconn | That's why the menu code doesn't refresh the display |
| 13:37:59 | AM | ok, so what do I use if I have a menu option called "load profile". I want it to display a list of previously saved profiles, where normal click loads the profile and long click allows you to deleter or rename the profile? |
| 13:38:30 | amiconn | ?? |
| 13:39:05 | amiconn | You can already save as many configurations as you want (write .cfg file) |
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| 13:39:23 | amiconn | Then you can load them (browse .cfg files) |
| 13:39:39 | amiconn | This is actually a file3 browser (sub-browser) |
| 13:39:52 | amiconn | ..so if you want to delete one, just use the context menu |
| 13:39:59 | amiconn | No need to reinvent the wheel... |
| 13:43:59 | AM | ok, forget about "profile". perhaps that's the wrong thing to call it, anyway what I want is a simple load "file function". so yeah, I guess a filetree would be better. I'm guessing it's possible to filter so it only shows certain file types? I'd prefer if it were locked to a specific dir as well? |
| 13:45:28 | gopp | how about |
| 13:45:31 | gopp | rockbox supporting |
| 13:45:33 | gopp | the xm dap |
| 13:45:54 | gopp | could you find a way to interface with samsung dap for xm |
| 13:45:58 | gopp | which supports xm and mp3 |
| 13:46:41 | gopp | I bet you people would do a great job, at the firmware |
| 13:47:12 | | Part americo |
| 13:47:52 | gopp | http://shop.xmradio.com/detail.aspx?pid=190&cat=36 |
| 13:48:00 | gopp | it interfaces with usb |
| 13:48:10 | Zagor | gopp: first talk to samsung, try to get them to send us their hardware documentation. that is the hard part. |
| 13:48:16 | * | Bagder bets that's a PP player |
| 13:49:02 | gopp | Zagor how did you port |
| 13:49:08 | gopp | to the ipod, and other players |
| 13:49:28 | Zagor | gopp: with lots of hard work |
| 13:49:44 | gopp | oh |
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| 13:57:37 | Zagor | Bagder: I wouldn't be so sure. After all it's Samsung that is replacing Portalplayer in the new flash ipods. |
| 13:58:18 | Bagder | zagor: check this list http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 13:58:44 | Zagor | hehe, ok... |
| 13:58:46 | Bagder | but sure, that's no guarantee |
| 13:59:26 | merbanan | Bagder: MrH said he had the virgin boot loader |
| 13:59:39 | Bagder | yeah |
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| 14:00:48 | Bagder | but I never got it |
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| 14:06:45 | ryran | weee |
| 14:07:10 | JdGordon | whats the story with the remaining remote lcd patches that are ready to go? |
| 14:07:50 | merbanan | Bagder: It looks like it wont be long before custom creation of mi4 files are possible |
| 14:08:00 | crashd | merbanan: in what sense? |
| 14:08:53 | merbanan | generate images that the boot loader will load |
| 14:09:14 | crashd | yeah, but, why do you assume it will be possible soon? |
| 14:09:50 | Bagder | because almost everything is done now |
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| 14:14:14 | crashd | you getting on with the decryption Bagder ? |
| 14:14:22 | Bagder | that's already fixed |
| 14:14:23 | crashd | ive been moving house so havent really had much chance to check it out |
| 14:14:30 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
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| 14:15:35 | crashd | oh, good work :> |
| 14:17:28 | | Join g0n [0] (n=c20b4f68@labb.contactor.se) |
| 14:17:34 | g0n | hey ho |
| 14:18:25 | ryran | hoho |
| 14:18:37 | g0n | people , do it give nice games for h340 ? |
| 14:18:47 | ryran | haha |
| 14:18:58 | g0n | in sociation with ROCK Box ;D |
| 14:19:21 | g0n | i played Doom few hours ago ^^ |
| 14:19:26 | g0n | was pretty nice |
| 14:20:20 | g0n | do it give some more games? |
| 14:23:51 | ryran | yes rockbox does have more games. a lot come included in the main build. |
| 14:23:58 | g0n | maybe sonic the headgehog ^^ |
| 14:24:21 | g0n | u know maybe where i can get the games? |
| 14:24:28 | ryran | uhh... no. as far as I know, there's no sega emulator planned |
| 14:24:38 | ryran | the games come with rockbox |
| 14:24:41 | g0n | i have the mainbuild, the games are very nice but i need mooore ^^ |
| 14:25:07 | petur | g0n: get a real game device.... |
| 14:25:25 | PaulJam | there is a gameboy emulator (included in the bulds) that can run .gb and .gbc files, but the performance is often not so good |
| 14:25:48 | g0n | hmm |
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| 14:26:15 | izzledizzler | hey |
| 14:26:43 | izzledizzler | does anyone know of free collaboration software for people working on source code together? |
| 14:27:22 | petur | cvs, svn, ... |
| 14:27:23 | spiorf | izzledizzler, cvs, svn, git |
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| 14:48:53 | markun | Bagder: another mi4 file for your collection: http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?scy=NL&slg=NLD&cat=MP3_PLAYERS_CA_NL_CONSUMER&sct=HDD_AUDIO_JUKEBOX_SU_NL_CONSUMER&grp=PORTABLE_ENTERTAINMENT_GR_NL_CONSUMER&session=20060705084811_130.89.163.126&ctn=HDD120/00&mid=Link_Software&hlt=Link_Software |
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| 14:51:31 | muesli|delhi | had that jukebox |
| 14:51:33 | muesli|delhi | suxx |
| 14:51:37 | muesli|delhi | poor sound |
| 14:51:47 | muesli|delhi | poor everythin |
| 14:52:32 | markun | but another testfile for mi4code |
| 14:53:03 | markun | muesli|delhi: do you think the hardware is bad or just the software? |
| 14:53:39 | muesli|delhi | both sucked imho |
| 14:53:55 | muesli|delhi | pretty poor to navigate |
| 14:54:29 | muesli|delhi | the unit itself hadnt have a good sound |
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| 14:55:43 | Bagder | markun: got it, thanks |
| 14:57:07 | markun | Bagder: I firmware for the other philips DAPs look either very much like the 6320 or this one |
| 14:57:16 | markun | s/I/the/ |
| 14:57:22 | Bagder | this 120 one is very small |
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| 14:59:16 | markun | Bagder: Yes, it's also missing the usual strings. Only it starts with PPOS. |
| 14:59:16 | Bagder | decoded fine |
| 14:59:24 | markun | ok, nice |
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| 15:02:39 | markun | Bagder: btw, the other philips on the site is the HDD6330 I believe |
| 15:03:02 | Bagder | thanks, was just wondering |
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| 15:03:44 | markun | I just cheched the md5 and it's the same |
| 15:03:50 | markun | checked |
| 15:03:51 | Bagder | great |
| 15:03:56 | Bagder | page updated |
| 15:04:33 | Bagder | have to go paint my house now, see ya later |
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| 15:08:53 | markun | ok, have fun |
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| 15:27:05 | spiorf | why the wiki has been reverted to the old theme? |
| 15:27:14 | spiorf | the new was very nice! |
| 15:32:19 | petur | spiorf: [11:02] <Zagor> midkay: yeah me too, but it was a beast to configure. so I fell back to this simpler style. |
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| 16:56:46 | Inc | hi, I tryed to install rockbox and I had to remove it and now itunes updater won't restore my ipod it says it's being used by another program |
| 16:56:53 | Inc | and the thing's gone to shit. |
| 16:56:55 | Inc | any ideas? |
| 16:59:53 | Inc | nvm I got it |
| 16:59:54 | Inc | ty |
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| 17:31:05 | Mekrob | i need help |
| 17:31:46 | | Nick Mekrob is now known as craftkid (n=dummeska@64.252.192.242) |
| 17:31:57 | craftkid | plz help me |
| 17:32:03 | craftkid | i need help |
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| 17:32:59 | craftkid | help me |
| 17:33:05 | craftkid | please |
| 17:33:16 | |apo| | Just ASK |
| 17:33:19 | |apo| | < afk |
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| 17:33:29 | Genre9mp3 | craftkid: Just tell what your problem is |
| 17:33:44 | craftkid | i cant download any of the thinggs |
| 17:34:04 | petur | please specify |
| 17:34:07 | craftkid | the links wont work |
| 17:34:17 | petur | 'the' ? |
| 17:34:25 | craftkid | in the manulel |
| 17:34:50 | craftkid | for an ipod video |
| 17:35:13 | craftkid | i cant download any of the links |
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| 17:35:54 | craftkid | also i am so confused on what to do |
| 17:36:22 | craftkid | help |
| 17:36:23 | * | petur looks for his mind reading device |
| 17:36:26 | craftkid | please |
| 17:36:37 | craftkid | huh |
| 17:36:46 | Genre9mp3 | what exactly you want to download? |
| 17:36:54 | |apo| | pr0n |
| 17:37:27 | craftkid | the boot loader, patcher,and the ipod fw |
| 17:37:41 | petur | use the wiki for those |
| 17:37:51 | craftkid | what id that |
| 17:37:55 | craftkid | is |
| 17:38:10 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 17:38:43 | petur | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 17:39:23 | craftkid | i need someone to guide me through this whole process |
| 17:39:30 | |apo| | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 17:39:34 | |apo| | ^ Guide |
| 17:40:44 | craftkid | yes |
| 17:42:05 | craftkid | they do not have a 30g ipod video install thing on there |
| 17:42:11 | |apo| | Yes they do |
| 17:42:15 | | Quit slarti (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 17:42:19 | |apo| | For iPod Color/Photo users - bootloader-color.bin, for iPod 4G (Grayscale) users - bootloader-4g.bin, for iPod Nano users - bootloader-nano.bin, for iPod Video/5G users - bootloader-video.bin, for iPod Mini 1G users - bootloader-mini1g.bin and for iPod Mini 2G users - bootloader-mini2g.bin |
| 17:42:23 | |apo| | Err |
| 17:42:36 | |apo| | For iPod Color/Photo users - bootloader-color.bin, for iPod 4G (Grayscale) users - bootloader-4g.bin, for iPod Nano users - bootloader-nano.bin, for iPod Video/5G users - bootloader-video.bin, for iPod Mini 1G users - bootloader-mini1g.bin and for iPod Mini 2G users - bootloader-mini2g.bin |
| 17:42:45 | |apo| | See the bold stuff? |
| 17:42:50 | |apo| | That's what you need |
| 17:43:28 | |apo| | 5G = fifth generation. It's not referring to the size of your harddisc - that's irrelevant. |
| 17:44:27 | craftkid | ohhh |
| 17:46:06 | craftkid | what do i do now |
| 17:46:18 | |apo| | Read the instructions and follow them |
| 17:46:27 | craftkid | i am confused |
| 17:46:59 | |apo| | Download the files |
| 17:47:09 | |apo| | Put them into C:\Rockbox |
| 17:47:22 | craftkid | ihow meny should i have |
| 17:47:26 | |apo| | 3 |
| 17:47:36 | craftkid | i can only find two |
| 17:48:16 | craftkid | what are the names of them |
| 17:48:24 | craftkid | i have the boot loader |
| 17:48:47 | |apo| | See the three dots in front of the lines where it says you need to download stuff? |
| 17:49:04 | craftkid | yes |
| 17:49:10 | |apo| | Those indicate the files |
| 17:49:11 | |apo| | ... |
| 17:49:41 | craftkid | they wont go in the folder |
| 17:49:50 | |apo| | They will |
| 17:50:08 | craftkid | i got them in there |
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| 17:50:37 | craftkid | now what do i do |
| 17:50:40 | |apo| | . Start a command prompt and navigate to the C:\rockbox directory (type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter). |
| 17:50:56 | craftkid | how do i do that |
| 17:51:03 | |apo| | start - run - cmd |
| 17:51:09 | |apo| | then type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter |
| 17:51:19 | earHertz | any devs with ipods here? |
| 17:51:52 | craftkid | what that mean |
| 17:52:10 | |apo| | craftkid, just one question: If you don't know how to open a command prompt - why the hell do you know about rockbox? |
| 17:52:15 | |apo| | Click start |
| 17:52:16 | |apo| | Click run |
| 17:52:18 | |apo| | type cmd |
| 17:52:20 | |apo| | type enter |
| 17:52:27 | |apo| | then type C: and press enter, then type "cd \rockbox" and press enter |
| 17:52:32 | |apo| | *sighs* |
| 17:52:35 | craftkid | my brother |
| 17:52:44 | |apo| | Tell him to install it for you |
| 17:52:52 | craftkid | he is gone |
| 17:53:01 | craftkid | i did that |
| 17:53:11 | |apo| | Man... |
| 17:53:12 | craftkid | now what |
| 17:53:19 | |apo| | Kick your brother for me when he's back, okay? |
| 17:53:26 | |apo| | You're in c:\rockbox? |
| 17:53:59 | craftkid | yes |
| 17:54:05 | |apo| | You should now plug your iPod into your PC via the USB or Firewire cable |
| 17:54:10 | craftkid | ok |
| 17:54:20 | |apo| | Now type in the command prompt: |
| 17:54:25 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 0 |
| 17:54:25 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 1 |
| 17:54:25 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 2 |
| 17:54:25 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK |apo| |
| 17:54:25 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 3 |
| 17:54:25 | |apo| | (etc) |
| 17:54:50 | craftkid | do i put a space befor ipod |
| 17:54:55 | |apo| | no |
| 17:55:27 | |apo| | When ipodpatcher finds your ipod, remember the number you have typed |
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| 17:55:47 | funky | hi |
| 17:56:26 | craftkid | how do i no if it found it |
| 17:57:25 | craftkid | how do i no once it found the ipod |
| 17:59:32 | |apo| | It won't say "Drive is not an iPod" |
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| 18:00:21 | funky | is the iGameBoy playable on an ipod 5th gen? |
| 18:00:22 | craftkid | mine is saying more that that |
| 18:00:36 | voltagex | getting my iRiver back soon |
| 18:00:36 | |apo| | It won't say "Drive is not an iPod" < That's the last line |
| 18:00:40 | |apo| | If it's not, it's an iPod |
| 18:00:50 | voltagex | $231 later |
| 18:01:18 | craftkid | mine says |
| 18:01:39 | craftkid | the sys can not find the file specified |
| 18:02:00 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:02:00 | * | petur admires the way |apo| holds hands |
| 18:02:08 | |apo| | Is the file ipodpatcher.exe in C:\rockbox? |
| 18:02:11 | |apo| | petur: *sighs* |
| 18:02:15 | |apo| | I hate tech support |
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| 18:02:24 | craftkid | ikd |
| 18:02:28 | craftkid | idk |
| 18:02:33 | voltagex | |apo|: why? |
| 18:02:44 | |apo| | If I'll have to choose between being unemployed and being tech support, I'll choose being unemployed |
| 18:03:02 | craftkid | yes it is |
| 18:03:02 | |apo| | voltagex: Because I have to tell craftkid how to install rockbox on his iPod |
| 18:03:06 | voltagex | oh. I thought you meant *getting* tech support |
| 18:03:10 | |apo| | :P |
| 18:03:27 | craftkid | i am going to tell ur boss |
| 18:03:32 | craftkid | lol |
| 18:03:56 | |apo| | Sure, go ahead. My "boss" is the headmaster of my school and won't give a shit. |
| 18:03:57 | petur | craftkid: if you get that error you're either not in that folder or you need to type it properly |
| 18:05:01 | craftkid | i am in C: cd\rockbox |
| 18:05:13 | craftkid | and i am typein |
| 18:05:21 | petur | you mean c:\rockbox |
| 18:05:28 | craftkid | ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:05:37 | |apo| | What does it say in front of the lowest line? |
| 18:05:38 | craftkid | no |
| 18:05:53 | |apo| | Now: |
| 18:05:54 | lou | the fuck is c: cd\rockbox ? |
| 18:05:55 | |apo| | [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 1 |
| 18:05:55 | |apo| | [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 2 |
| 18:05:55 | |apo| | [17:54:24] <|apo|> ipodpatcher 3 |
| 18:06:06 | |apo| | And so on |
| 18:06:09 | |apo| | Until it finds the iPod |
| 18:06:13 | |apo| | *sighs heavily* |
| 18:06:28 | |apo| | Why don't you just wait with rockbox and use the original firmware for now? |
| 18:06:34 | |apo| | It's playing music just fine |
| 18:06:39 | craftkid | it says |
| 18:06:42 | |apo| | And I doubt that you'll like rockbox better |
| 18:07:00 | lou | i doubt he can get it to work :S |
| 18:07:07 | | Quit funky ("leaving") |
| 18:07:08 | craftkid | C:\rockbox> |
| 18:07:18 | craftkid | that is what it says |
| 18:07:21 | |apo| | Then type |
| 18:07:21 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:07:22 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 1 |
| 18:07:22 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 2 |
| 18:07:22 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 3 |
| 18:07:22 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 18:07:22 | |apo| | (etc) |
| 18:07:26 | |apo| | Until it finds the iPod |
| 18:07:27 | |apo| | ... |
| 18:08:00 | petur | craftkid: that was *not* the last line, that is the new prompt you get after execution |
| 18:08:13 | |apo| | petur: I wanted to know that prompt |
| 18:08:21 | craftkid | huh |
| 18:08:21 | |apo| | To make sure if he's in the proper dir |
| 18:09:07 | |apo| | And the line above that one is where it says "Drive is not an iPod, aborting" if it's not an iPod |
| 18:09:13 | voltagex | craftkid: you may need to learn a little bit of DOS before you try rockbox |
| 18:09:51 | craftkid | the system cannot find the file specified |
| 18:10:01 | |apo| | next number |
| 18:10:08 | petur | or take some (beginners) computer lessons, it will save you from a lot of frustration |
| 18:10:16 | lou | do you have the file ipodpatcher.exe in c:\rockbox ? |
| 18:10:27 | |apo| | lou: Yes |
| 18:10:28 | craftkid | yes |
| 18:10:31 | petur | [18:09] <craftkid> the system cannot find the file specified <−−−−- ipodpatcher program does not exist in that folder |
| 18:10:38 | lou | yeah |
| 18:10:38 | |apo| | petur: No |
| 18:10:41 | lou | what petur said |
| 18:10:43 | lou | or not? |
| 18:10:47 | lou | nm then |
| 18:10:50 | |apo| | That's what ipodpatcher says when the drive doesn't exist |
| 18:10:59 | * | petur shuts up |
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| 18:11:03 | * | lou too |
| 18:11:13 | * | petur runs off even |
| 18:11:19 | | Quit petur ("later!") |
| 18:11:24 | |apo| | Good idea... |
| 18:11:35 | craftkid | huh |
| 18:12:12 | craftkid | what do i type in the cmd |
| 18:12:25 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:12:26 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 1 |
| 18:12:26 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 2 |
| 18:12:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 18:12:26 | |apo| | ipodpatcher 3 |
| 18:12:26 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 18:12:26 | |apo| | (etc) |
| 18:12:31 | |apo| | Until it finds the ipod |
| 18:12:47 | voltagex | you need to make sure ipodpatcher is in c:\rockbox |
| 18:12:58 | lou | he has that :) |
| 18:12:59 | |apo| | It is there |
| 18:13:01 | |apo| | ~_~ |
| 18:13:16 | craftkid | i am so confused |
| 18:13:18 | voltagex | <craftkid> the system cannot find the file specified |
| 18:13:24 | |apo| | [18:10:49] <|apo|> That's what ipodpatcher says when the drive doesn't exist |
| 18:13:38 | craftkid | yes that is what it said |
| 18:13:48 | craftkid | no |
| 18:13:57 | lou | basically |
| 18:13:57 | craftkid | i did |
| 18:14:15 | craftkid | start run cmd |
| 18:14:31 | |apo| | craftkid: You know what? You either go learn something about command prompts and stuff now and come back later, then I'll help you. Or you ask your dear bro when he comes back. This is too frustrating for me, sorry. |
| 18:14:49 | voltagex | craftkid: click on the start menu, click run, type cmd |
| 18:15:01 | craftkid | well there are more people than you |
| 18:15:23 | craftkid | ok i did that |
| 18:15:39 | voltagex | craftkid: I understand apo's frustration, there's too much being said and misinterpreted |
| 18:15:55 | craftkid | now what do i do |
| 18:16:06 | voltagex | craftkid: you have a black box now don't you? |
| 18:16:11 | |apo| | voltagex: Could you send that again? My query blocker's a bit stupid :/ |
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| 18:16:30 | craftkid | yes |
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| 18:16:46 | |apo| | Indeed |
| 18:16:47 | |apo| | [calvino.freenode.net][505] |apo| :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) < ~_~ |
| 18:16:49 | | Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-088-065-064-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:16:49 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK apo` |
| 18:16:49 | *** | Alert Mode level 4 |
| 18:16:50 | craftkid | i have it |
| 18:16:53 | voltagex | craftkid: ok in the black box you need to type cd \rockbox |
| 18:17:08 | craftkid | is there a space |
| 18:17:19 | apo` | he's already there - he now needs to do the ipodpatcher N stuff |
| 18:17:27 | voltagex | apo`: hang on hang on |
| 18:17:44 | voltagex | craftkid: between cd and \rockbox yes there is |
| 18:18:16 | craftkid | ok i am there |
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| 18:18:37 | voltagex | the black box should say something like c:\rockbox now |
| 18:18:53 | craftkid | it does |
| 18:19:15 | voltagex | craftkid: if you type in ipo and hit the tab key, what happens? |
| 18:19:16 | craftkid | now what |
| 18:19:22 | apo` | voltagex: I salute you. |
| 18:19:56 | voltagex | apo`: please register your nickname so I can msg you |
| 18:20:01 | craftkid | it says ipod_fw.exe |
| 18:20:02 | apo` | You can |
| 18:20:10 | apo` | And my nick is registered :P |
| 18:20:20 | apo` | craftkid: Hit tab again |
| 18:20:41 | craftkid | now it says ipod patcher |
| 18:21:01 | apo` | Now type 0 behind that and type enter |
| 18:21:13 | voltagex | ok! it says ipodpatcher, you need to make it say ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:21:17 | voltagex | then hit enter |
| 18:21:17 | apo` | If the second to last line says something with numbers, it's an iPod |
| 18:21:32 | apo` | If it doesn't, repeat the command, just with and 1 instead of 0 |
| 18:21:33 | craftkid | do i erase the .exe |
| 18:21:33 | lou | i have a question though |
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| 18:21:38 | apo` | Then 2, 3, 4, and so on |
| 18:21:42 | voltagex | craftkid: not yet!!!! |
| 18:21:43 | lou | is your ipod connected via usb to your computer? |
| 18:22:00 | craftkid | what |
| 18:22:10 | lou | your ipod |
| 18:22:11 | craftkid | can i connect my ipod |
| 18:22:17 | lou | is it connected to your pc |
| 18:22:23 | craftkid | me |
| 18:22:30 | lou | you have to connect it yes |
| 18:22:38 | lou | because you just tell a program to find it |
| 18:22:49 | craftkid | ok |
| 18:22:54 | lou | and if its not connected guess what happens |
| 18:22:55 | craftkid | i connected it |
| 18:22:56 | lou | ._. |
| 18:22:59 | lou | great |
| 18:23:08 | lou | now follows voltagex instructions |
| 18:23:09 | craftkid | now what do i do |
| 18:23:26 | craftkid | what do i do |
| 18:23:31 | lou | you type |
| 18:23:35 | lou | ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:23:41 | lou | then you paste what it says |
| 18:23:54 | AM | Does anyone know how to set things up so that my tagnavi.config file doesn't get overwritten everytime I run "make install" for my simulator? |
| 18:23:55 | craftkid | they told me not to delet the .exe |
| 18:24:11 | voltagex | craftkid: yes, because if you do that, then we stop helping you |
| 18:24:19 | lou | have i said anything about deleting something? |
| 18:24:40 | voltagex | can everyone please stfu, and I'll try to help craftkid |
| 18:24:47 | lou | fair enough |
| 18:24:48 | craftkid | mine sayes ipodpatcher.exe |
| 18:24:50 | voltagex | it's confusing with everyone trying to help |
| 18:24:51 | apo` | He's talking about the .exe part in the command prompt. |
| 18:24:56 | apo` | Which is irrelevant |
| 18:24:56 | voltagex | ah |
| 18:25:00 | apo` | Delete it or don't |
| 18:25:00 | voltagex | sorry then |
| 18:25:03 | apo` | DOesn't matter |
| 18:25:11 | voltagex | now I'm doing the mis-interpreting |
| 18:25:16 | apo` | Now type ipodpatcher 0 |
| 18:25:20 | craftkid | so just type a 0 at the end |
| 18:25:22 | apo` | And paste what it says |
| 18:26:04 | voltagex | craftkid: black box must say EITHER ipodpatcher.exe 0 or ipodpatcher 0 −− it means the same to your computer |
| 18:26:13 | apo` | (I can see the "how do I paste?" coming) |
| 18:26:25 | craftkid | how do i past |
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| 18:26:35 | lou | ._. |
| 18:26:37 | craftkid | paste |
| 18:26:42 | voltagex | craftkid: right click the black box, click mark |
| 18:26:50 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 18:26:52 | Febs | It will take longer for you to paste it than to type it. |
| 18:27:27 | voltagex | Febs: true, craftkid please just tell us what the black box said after you hit enter for ipodpatcher 0 |
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| 18:28:27 | craftkid | 'ipodpatcher0' is not recognized as an internal or external command, |
| 18:28:27 | craftkid | operable program or batch file. |
| 18:28:40 | craftkid | that is what it sait |
| 18:28:42 | apo` | ... space |
| 18:28:44 | craftkid | said |
| 18:28:49 | apo` | between ipodpatcher and 0 |
| 18:28:50 | apo` | ........... |
| 18:28:54 | voltagex | craftkid: a space between ipodpatcher and 0 |
| 18:28:57 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:28:57 | * | apo` hits his head against the wall |
| 18:29:34 | craftkid | ipodpatcher v0.3 - (C) Dave Chapman 2006 |
| 18:29:34 | craftkid | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO |
| 18:29:34 | craftkid | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. |
| 18:29:34 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK craftkid |
| 18:29:34 | craftkid | [INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive0 |
| 18:29:34 | craftkid | Drive is not an iPod, aborting |
| 18:29:42 | apo` | now type 1 instead of 0 |
| 18:29:46 | apo` | and paste |
| 18:29:57 | voltagex | craftkid: ok, you need to try ipodpatcher 1 |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | ipodpatcher v0.3 - (C) Dave Chapman 2006 |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE |
| 18:30:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | [INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive1 |
| 18:30:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | Part Start Sector End Sector Size (MB) Type |
| 18:30:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 18:30:32 | craftkid | 0 63 160649 78.4 Empty (0x00) |
| 18:30:34 | craftkid | 1 160650 58605119 28537.3 W95 FAT32 (0x0b) |
| 18:30:51 | lou | thats your ipod |
| 18:30:52 | voltagex | we have lift off |
| 18:30:58 | craftkid | now what |
| 18:31:14 | craftkid | what number do i need to no |
| 18:31:19 | voltagex | lou, apo, I don't know anything about the ipod setup, take it from here :| |
| 18:31:20 | apo` | ipodpatcher -r 1 bootpartition.bin |
| 18:31:39 | craftkid | where do i type that |
| 18:31:45 | apo` | black box |
| 18:31:46 | voltagex | craftkid: in the black box |
| 18:31:47 | craftkid | thank you |
| 18:32:05 | apo` | Then type this (in the black box): |
| 18:32:05 | apo` | ipod_fw -o apple_os.bin -e 0 bootpartition.bin |
| 18:32:12 | apo` | Then: |
| 18:32:13 | apo` | ipod_fw -o apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin -e 1 bootpartition.bin |
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| 18:32:58 | craftkid | it is not doing any thing |
| 18:33:03 | apo` | It is |
| 18:33:05 | lou | it is |
| 18:33:08 | lou | takes a while |
| 18:33:13 | voltagex | craftkid: it is, it's thinking and talking to your iPod |
| 18:33:19 | apo` | xD |
| 18:33:26 | lou | wait until the comand prompt comes back |
| 18:33:29 | craftkid | do i type it next to the rockbox |
| 18:33:45 | voltagex | craftkid: yes, when it comes back |
| 18:34:28 | craftkid | ok i typed all of them |
| 18:34:33 | apo` | Now this: |
| 18:34:35 | apo` | ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
| 18:35:15 | craftkid | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video |
| 18:35:29 | craftkid | is it supposed to say that |
| 18:35:38 | apo` | Yes |
| 18:35:38 | voltagex | craftkid: yup! |
| 18:35:46 | craftkid | now what |
| 18:35:58 | apo` | Wait until c:\rockbox> is back |
| 18:36:08 | apo` | Then type this: |
| 18:36:09 | apo` | ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin |
| 18:36:10 | apo` | Err |
| 18:36:13 | apo` | ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin |
| 18:36:33 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:36:53 | craftkid | now waht |
| 18:36:57 | apo` | Have you typed ipodpatcher -w 1 rockboot.bin? |
| 18:37:00 | apo` | Not ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin? |
| 18:37:12 | craftkid | yes |
| 18:37:15 | apo` | Good |
| 18:37:20 | apo` | Disconnect the iPod |
| 18:37:26 | apo` | It will reboot |
| 18:37:47 | apo` | You should then see a light blue screen (On the iPod) with some tiny writing - this is the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 18:38:00 | craftkid | yes |
| 18:38:09 | craftkid | should i reconnect it |
| 18:38:15 | apo` | What's it saying? |
| 18:38:20 | spiorf | i cannot find the wiki page about installing the cross compiler for ipod |
| 18:38:22 | craftkid | it is gone now |
| 18:38:25 | apo` | Rockbox Error: -1? |
| 18:38:30 | spiorf | can anyone give me a link? |
| 18:38:41 | linuxstb_ | spirof: The page is just called CrossCompiler |
| 18:38:43 | apo` | Okay. Now hold Menu+Select |
| 18:38:50 | apo` | For like 5 seconds |
| 18:38:56 | apo` | And don't move your hand |
| 18:39:04 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:39:12 | apo` | Then hold select + play |
| 18:39:13 | craftkid | it is back |
| 18:39:17 | spiorf | linuxstb_, thanks |
| 18:39:29 | apo` | Reconnect your iPod |
| 18:39:45 | apo` | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.zip < Download this. |
| 18:40:20 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:40:32 | apo` | Now unzip all that stuff to your iPod |
| 18:40:33 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 18:40:39 | apo` | Everything inside that .zip |
| 18:41:17 | craftkid | send to |
| 18:41:37 | voltagex | craftkid: no, unzip |
| 18:42:34 | craftkid | it does not say unzip |
| 18:42:54 | apo` | Double click the .zip |
| 18:43:01 | apo` | A window will open. |
| 18:43:12 | craftkid | where is that |
| 18:43:23 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:43:42 | apo` | It has some files inside it - rockbox.ipod, and a directory, .rockbox |
| 18:43:44 | craftkid | now what |
| 18:43:46 | apo` | Select everything |
| 18:43:57 | craftkid | there is two |
| 18:44:04 | apo` | Select everything |
| 18:44:17 | apo` | Now go to my computer in your explorer. |
| 18:44:24 | apo` | There'll be your iPod drive |
| 18:44:26 | apo` | Open it. |
| 18:44:45 | apo` | Then just drag and drop the two files from the window to your iPod. |
| 18:45:00 | craftkid | how do i go there when it is slected |
| 18:45:10 | apo` | No |
| 18:45:16 | apo` | Open another explorer window |
| 18:45:22 | apo` | And go to my computer there |
| 18:45:32 | linuxstb_ | Can't you just right-click on the zip file and do "Extract to..." and then select the4 ipod? |
| 18:45:53 | apo` | linuxstb: Be quiet, he'll be confused |
| 18:45:55 | apo` | :P |
| 18:46:01 | voltagex | linuxstb_: good point, depends which version of Windows |
| 18:46:06 | linuxstb_ | Just trying to make it simpler... |
| 18:46:35 | craftkid | go in what folder in my ipod |
| 18:46:42 | apo` | No folder |
| 18:46:45 | apo` | Just on your iPod |
| 18:46:55 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:47:38 | apo` | Then unplug it - it'll reboot again and start rockbox. |
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| 18:47:51 | craftkid | hold on |
| 18:48:51 | craftkid | ok |
| 18:49:23 | voltagex | craftkid: what's showing on your ipod screen now? |
| 18:49:23 | apo` | Now you're ready to roll. Have fun. |
| 18:49:27 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:49:27 | * | apo` runs away |
| 18:50:03 | craftkid | calendar |
| 18:50:17 | voltagex | craftkid, it's all set up |
| 18:50:17 | craftkid | now what |
| 18:50:25 | Febs | linuxstb, did you see my post in the forums regarding the iPod backlight when charging issue? |
| 18:50:52 | craftkid | it wont let me open it |
| 18:50:54 | linuxstb_ | Febs: No, just checking now. |
| 18:51:02 | apo` | craftkid: Put music on it and listen to it. |
| 18:51:06 | apo` | No, I won't tell you how. |
| 18:51:15 | apo` | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual |
| 18:51:23 | craftkid | it is saying open with |
| 18:51:34 | craftkid | create directry |
| 18:51:50 | apo` | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual |
| 18:51:52 | craftkid | hel[ |
| 18:51:55 | apo` | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060705.pdf < Manual |
| 18:52:05 | craftkid | kk |
| 18:52:22 | linuxstb_ | Febs: My exact question - I don't know for sure. lostlogic did some work relating to charging on the 5g (and only the 5g), so there may be other consequences of enabling that define. |
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| 18:52:48 | linuxstb_ | (lostlogic enabled that define for the 5g) |
| 18:53:34 | voltagex | craftkid: now you say *thankyou* because we're *unpaid* volunteers |
| 18:53:45 | Febs | OK. I knew it seemed too easy! |
| 18:54:02 | voltagex | 1hr 30min of tech support would cost you a lot of money in the real world |
| 18:54:36 | linuxstb_ | Febs: It may be that easy, but I'm not allowed to think about it until after 3.0 :) |
| 18:54:38 | apo` | I'm so gonna set up a paypal account and demand money for tech support from now on. :P |
| 18:55:35 | * | voltagex *cries* I want my mp3 player back! |
| 18:55:58 | apo` | :/ |
| 18:56:10 | AM | Are there any plans for #EXTM3U info display in the playlist viewer? |
| 18:56:29 | voltagex | craftkid are you still there? |
| 18:56:44 | craftkid | yes |
| 18:56:59 | voltagex | craftkid: now you say *thankyou* because we're *unpaid* volunteers |
| 18:57:01 | apo` | Oh, he's still there. Okay. /ignores |
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| 18:57:18 | craftkid | it wont work |
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| 18:57:34 | craftkid | no |
| 18:57:37 | craftkid | cuz |
| 18:57:39 | craftkid | 1 |
| 18:57:47 | voltagex | ok. bye then, I strongly recommend some computer lessons. |
| 18:57:50 | craftkid | apo was mean |
| 18:57:53 | voltagex | ok. bye then, I strongly recommend some computer lessons. |
| 18:58:01 | apo` | AHAHAHA |
| 18:58:04 | craftkid | and it still doese not work |
| 18:58:28 | craftkid | thank you voltages |
| 18:58:50 | apo` | You know what? I'll be mean from now on. FUCK YOU. I've been sitting here for 90 effing minutes and helping you. For free, and without one little thank you. Now go screw yourself. |
| 18:59:28 | craftkid | well stop being mean |
| 18:59:31 | voltagex | craftkid I now have you on ignore, you did not pay anything, so don't complain |
| 18:59:51 | craftkid | i said thank you to you |
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| 19:00:02 | craftkid | tell him to think befor he talks |
| 19:00:03 | juxtap | craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax |
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| 19:00:45 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: No plans that I know of for #EXTM3U support - unless there's a patch on the tracker. |
| 19:00:56 | linuxstb_ | ^(sorry amiconn, I meant AM) |
| 19:01:01 | apo` | juxtap: Damn |
| 19:01:03 | apo` | Don't tell him! |
| 19:01:13 | linuxstb_ | (he went and quit on me...) |
| 19:01:14 | voltagex | juxtap: that needs to be /topic and it needs to be /topic now |
| 19:01:23 | apo` | :D |
| 19:01:33 | apo` | I could WB it |
| 19:01:53 | voltagex | do it, even though I don't know what WB is |
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| 19:02:22 | apo` | juxtap: Could you rejoin, please? |
| 19:02:39 | juxtap | apo`? |
| 19:02:54 | apo` | Uh... type /cycle or /hop |
| 19:03:05 | juxtap | ... |
| 19:03:06 | juxtap | why? |
| 19:03:12 | apo` | You will rejoin this channel. |
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| 19:03:19 | apo` | I want to see if my WB's working. ^^ |
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| 19:03:46 | voltagex | apo`: i just did cycle, what was I meant to see? |
| 19:04:01 | apo` | Not you... ^^; |
| 19:04:08 | apo` | Oh well, I have to try something anyway. |
| 19:04:15 | juxtap | do it to voltagex :p |
| 19:04:25 | * | voltagex hides |
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| 19:06:25 | apo` | juxtap: I have just added a WB for you - a little message that displays whenever you join a channel I'm in. |
| 19:06:31 | apo` | It's not going to hurt you :P |
| 19:07:01 | juxtap | *blink* |
| 19:07:01 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:07:03 | juxtap | STOP PICKING ON ME |
| 19:07:09 | apo` | >_> |
| 19:07:10 | juxtap | go to #test or something, lol |
| 19:07:18 | apo` | Um |
| 19:07:21 | apo` | It's already tested |
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| 19:08:22 | |apo| | ~_~ |
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| 19:08:44 | | Nick |apo| is now known as apo` (n=r00t@dslb-084-057-077-172.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:08:54 | apo` | :3 |
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| 19:59:23 | AM | Anyone know if there are plans for #EXTM3U-info display support in the rockbox playlist viewer? |
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| 20:03:31 | funky | hi |
| 20:03:38 | funky | finally I bought an ipod video |
| 20:03:50 | funky | now time to install ipodlinux and rockbox on it |
| 20:03:56 | funky | any order to do it ? |
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| 20:04:52 | linuxstb_ | funky: What operating system are you installing from? |
| 20:07:22 | funky | linux |
| 20:08:02 | linuxstb_ | Then it doesn't really matter. But it's probably easier to install IPL first as you need to repartition your ipod. |
| 20:08:24 | linuxstb_ | You also need to decide which bootloader you want - ipodloader2 or the Rockbox bootloader. |
| 20:08:46 | linuxstb_ | (but they are interchangable in both the IPL and Rockbox installation instructions). |
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| 20:09:26 | funky | aha, which of them do you recomend me ? |
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| 20:09:39 | funky | ipodloader2 looks fine |
| 20:09:42 | linuxstb_ | But one thing I would recommend is to backup your MBR (dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.bin count=1) and to backup the firmware partition - dd if=/dev/sda1 of=bootpartition.bin |
| 20:09:46 | funky | I havent seen yet the rockbox one |
| 20:09:56 | linuxstb_ | (assuming /dev/sda is your ipod) |
| 20:10:00 | funky | aha |
| 20:10:04 | funky | ok |
| 20:10:39 | linuxstb_ | If you plan on regularly using more than Rockbox, I would say go with the IPL bootloader - it's got a nice menu. The Rockbox bootloader is just designed to load Rockbox as fast as possible. |
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| 20:12:23 | funky | ok, thanks for the tips linuxstb_ |
| 20:12:39 | linuxstb_ | After you've installed IPL according to their instructions, installing Rockbox is just a matter of downloading a rockbox.zip from the daily builds page and doing "unzip rockbox.zip -d /mnt/ipod/" |
| 20:13:07 | linuxstb_ | (where /mnt/ipod/ is your ipod's FAT32 partition) |
| 20:13:24 | funky | sweet |
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| 20:14:04 | funky | do you prefer fat32 than hfs+ ? |
| 20:14:56 | linuxstb_ | You don't have a choice - Rockbox only works with fat32. |
| 20:15:08 | funky | ahh, didnt know |
| 20:15:37 | linuxstb_ | But I prefer FAT32 anyway because it will work everywhere. |
| 20:15:47 | funky | aye, thats a good point |
| 20:16:47 | linuxstb_ | Is your ipod currently HFS? |
| 20:16:56 | funky | yes, it is |
| 20:17:20 | linuxstb_ | Then you should convert it to FAT32 before starting anything. |
| 20:17:58 | funky | I can do it using ipodloader2, right ? |
| 20:18:01 | linuxstb_ | (assuming you want to use Rockbox..) |
| 20:18:14 | funky | yeah, I want to use it |
| 20:18:27 | funky | linuxstb_: what's your DAP ? |
| 20:18:32 | linuxstb_ | No - ipodloader2 is just a bootloader. |
| 20:18:35 | funky | an ipod too ? |
| 20:18:44 | funky | sorry, ipodinstallar2 I meant |
| 20:19:07 | linuxstb_ | I've various - an old Archos Recorder which I don't use any more, an iriver H140, a 60GB ipod Color, and a 30GB ipod video. |
| 20:19:09 | funky | Installer2 |
| 20:19:24 | funky | nice collection :)) |
| 20:19:41 | linuxstb_ | No, I think ipodinstaller2 will keep the ipod as it comes. But I've never used it, so I might be wrong. |
| 20:20:36 | linuxstb_ | But converting is straightforward - either run the ipod updater from a WIndows machine, or manually convert it (ask me how...) |
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| 20:21:12 | funky | how? using mkfs.vfat ? |
| 20:21:51 | linuxstb_ | Yes, but you also need to repartition to give your ipod a DOS MBR instead of an Apple Partition Map. |
| 20:22:46 | funky | OK, thanks again for your help, now its time to read a bit more |
| 20:22:55 | linuxstb_ | But you will need to grab the contents of the boot partition from your ipod first. |
| 20:23:04 | funky | yeah, I'll do |
| 20:23:17 | linuxstb_ | Easiest way to repartition is to grab a ready-made MBR for your ipod from here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 20:23:39 | linuxstb_ | You then just write it to your ipod (dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sda). Then disconnect your ipod and reattach it. |
| 20:24:17 | linuxstb_ | (that wiki page has some conversion instructions for Mac users which may give you a clue) |
| 20:25:48 | funky | I'll read the whole installation instruciontions from ipodlinux and rockbox wikis before do anything |
| 20:26:36 | funky | I dont think that apple warranty will cover this kind of operations, I dont think this can damage seriously anything though |
| 20:27:10 | linuxstb_ | No, you can always run Apple's official restore program (from Win or Mac) |
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| 20:35:46 | funky | linuxstb_: maybe a stupid question but.. is there any way to play video in an external device, using any kind of addon for the ipod? |
| 20:38:24 | funky | would be great |
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| 20:41:46 | funky | got to go, I'll continue reading ipl/rockbox doc later, linuxstb thx again for your help, see you |
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| 20:44:39 | craftkid | i need help |
| 20:45:09 | craftkid | i need help |
| 20:45:27 | craftkid | please |
| 20:45:32 | craftkid | someone |
| 20:46:09 | Bagder | try asking |
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| 20:52:10 | webguest34 | that guy craftkid was on earlier, the type of questions he asked makes me think he's a troll |
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| 20:54:54 | craftkid | can someone please help me |
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| 20:55:45 | craftkid | will someone please help me? |
| 20:55:50 | dionoea | 20:46:10 <@Bagder> try asking |
| 20:56:00 | craftkid | asking who |
| 20:56:12 | dionoea | asking what |
| 20:56:19 | craftkid | i need help |
| 20:56:43 | dionoea | try joining #rockbox-help |
| 20:56:50 | craftkid | how |
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| 20:57:29 | craftkid | join/ #rockbox-help |
| 20:57:43 | craftkid | i need help |
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| 20:58:38 | Condor | hello |
| 20:58:40 | | Nick Condor is now known as theprodukkt (n=Vito@hnvr-d9b8eaa3.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:58:51 | theprodukkt | in the wiki |
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| 20:59:17 | theprodukkt | is there a possibilitie like in wikipedia to discuss the pages (discussion) |
| 20:59:27 | craftkid | i need help |
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| 21:00:07 | theprodukkt | and could you maybe do a comparisation beetween the ipod, iriver and iaudio platforms to their orginal firmware and to each other? |
| 21:00:14 | theprodukkt | this would be very nice |
| 21:00:22 | theprodukkt | still dont know what i should buy |
| 21:00:24 | linuxstb_ | You mean like the DeviceChart? |
| 21:00:33 | theprodukkt | oh |
| 21:00:36 | theprodukkt | ill look 4 it |
| 21:01:17 | craftkid | can some one help me |
| 21:01:22 | PaulJam | theprodukkt: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=FeatureComparison |
| 21:01:22 | theprodukkt | where can i find it? |
| 21:01:29 | theprodukkt | thx |
| 21:01:29 | linuxstb_ | That's really just the hardware specs though. I agree with you that a page comparing the different players to help potential Rockbox users choose a DAP would be a useful addition. |
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| 21:01:37 | linuxstb_ | craftkid: You need to ask a question first. |
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| 21:02:18 | theprodukkt | im missing the ipod in the generic features |
| 21:03:06 | linuxstb_ | It doesn't have any :) |
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| 21:08:36 | apo` | Oh god |
| 21:08:37 | apo` | The retard was back |
| 21:08:50 | apo` | Good thing I missed him, I would've been "mean" again. |
| 21:08:57 | idnar | heh |
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| 21:32:27 | theprodukkt | i want to register at the wiki |
| 21:32:28 | webguest06 | Nothing to say, except thanks for rockbox!! It works perfectly in an iPod nano, i installed it in ten minutes. |
| 21:32:38 | theprodukkt | my full name is alexander stefan sikorski |
| 21:32:48 | theprodukkt | is it ok if i choose "ass" for my name? |
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| 21:34:04 | apo` | alexander stefan sikorski < *googles* |
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| 21:35:09 | theprodukkt | u should find too much stuff not concerning my, |
| 21:35:11 | theprodukkt | but please |
| 21:35:13 | theprodukkt | hf |
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| 21:37:33 | theprodukkt | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=FeatureComparison |
| 21:37:40 | theprodukkt | ^^ in generic |
| 21:37:56 | theprodukkt | theres missing also iriver h3x0 firmware |
| 21:39:19 | apo` | Alexander Sikorski Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (241) 60 06-1 29 Telefax: +49 (241) 60 06-1 27 ... |
| 21:39:20 | apo` | Hm :P |
| 21:39:32 | theprodukkt | thats not me |
| 21:39:40 | apo` | foot surgery :P |
| 21:40:21 | theprodukkt | stupid question, but dont know the vocabulary, what does gapless playback mean? |
| 21:40:43 | apo` | That there's no gap between tracks |
| 21:40:57 | theprodukkt | silence-cutoff? |
| 21:41:17 | apo` | Uh.. Yeah, I guess. |
| 21:42:25 | theprodukkt | will there be a video function on rockbox in the future? |
| 21:42:49 | linuxstb_ | There's been one for years... |
| 21:43:04 | theprodukkt | but? |
| 21:43:18 | theprodukkt | as i see there is no mp3 player out with 25fps... |
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| 21:44:35 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox plays video (a custom .rvf format) on the Archos devices (a small mono LCD). |
| 21:45:09 | linuxstb_ | But that hasn't been ported to the newer (iriver/cowan/apple) players. |
| 21:45:25 | linuxstb_ | But it's basically just uncompressed video, so it's not of any use for larger colour LCDs. |
| 21:45:49 | theprodukkt | ^^ |
| 21:46:01 | theprodukkt | you are chief ;) |
| 21:46:13 | Febs | [15:40] <theprodukkt> silence-cutoff? |
| 21:46:21 | Febs | ^^ This is not what gapless is about. |
| 21:46:37 | theprodukkt | not? |
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| 21:46:42 | theprodukkt | fading? |
| 21:46:42 | Febs | Gapless play back plays songs the way they are mastered. |
| 21:46:59 | Febs | If the song is mastered with a 2-second (or whatever) pre-gap, that's what you'll hear. |
| 21:47:27 | Febs | If the album is mastered with no gaps between tracks (i.e., Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon), the tracks will playback without any gaps added. |
| 21:48:15 | theprodukkt | whats the difference to silence-cutoff then? |
| 21:48:18 | Febs | If you want to eliminate silence between tracks that is otherwise supposed to be there, you can use the crossfade function. |
| 21:48:30 | theprodukkt | i dont understand |
| 21:48:36 | theprodukkt | but its not that important |
| 21:49:01 | theprodukkt | i think i will when i run rockbox on my (not already bought) h340 |
| 21:49:09 | Febs | |−−−−−−−−-song 1−−−−−−-|−−−−−−-song 2−−−−-| |
| 21:49:17 | Febs | |−−−−−−−−-song 1−−−−−−-| |−−−−−−-song 2−−−−-| |
| 21:49:23 | linuxstb_ | theprodukkt: If you rip a CD to WAV files, and then open those files in an audio editor, you'll normally see short periods of silence at the start and end. That's the silence that "silence-cutoff" will attempt to trim. |
| 21:49:37 | theprodukkt | ^^ ok |
| 21:49:42 | Febs | Gapless will play the first example with no gap, but it will keep the silence in between songs in the second example. |
| 21:50:16 | theprodukkt | isnt that the usual playback function? |
| 21:50:27 | linuxstb_ | What Rockbox means by gapless is that it won't add any extra silence between tracks that was not originally there. Every other MP3 player inserts silence, which is annoying when you play consecutive tracks mastered without silence at the start and end. |
| 21:50:43 | theprodukkt | ok |
| 21:50:46 | linuxstb_ | (e.g. a live album or DSOTM) |
| 21:50:55 | theprodukkt | didnt realized that bug yet :) |
| 21:51:00 | Febs | It *should* be the usual playback function, but aside from Rockbox, there has only ever been one MP3 player that actually did it right. |
| 21:51:12 | idnar | *every* other player? |
| 21:51:22 | linuxstb_ | I agree, IMO, it's a bug to insert silence between tracks. But it's become the norm. |
| 21:51:42 | linuxstb_ | Apart from the long-deceased Rio Karma. |
| 21:51:50 | Febs | The Rio Karma is the only non-Rockbox gapless player. |
| 21:51:56 | * | theprodukkt doesnt know it ... |
| 21:52:08 | TeaSea | linuxstb_: It's not really a bug as such, it's a design flaw. |
| 21:52:13 | theprodukkt | ^^ |
| 21:52:30 | theprodukkt | i dont think the developers wantet to player to act like that |
| 21:52:32 | Febs | Many players have some sort of gap delete but that is *not* the same as gapless, and often does more damage than good. |
| 21:52:57 | theprodukkt | another problem |
| 21:52:58 | theprodukkt | could somebody add the iriver h3x0 firmware to the generic part of the Firmware Feature Comparison Chart chart? |
| 21:53:25 | theprodukkt | maybe also boottime |
| 21:53:28 | theprodukkt | and the iriver |
| 21:53:33 | theprodukkt | sry i mean ipod |
| 21:54:13 | theprodukkt | and i think the ipod and the iriver part could be merged... |
| 21:54:22 | linuxstb_ | TeaSea: A lot of bugs are design flaws... |
| 21:54:40 | theprodukkt | (hope it doesnt piss u off if i talk like that) |
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| 21:55:17 | linuxstb_ | theprodukkt: Feel free to change that page. But Rockbox now works on a lot of players, so including every original firmware would make it a huge table. |
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| 21:55:47 | theprodukkt | doesnt matter |
| 21:55:50 | linuxstb_ | (and also, not many people use the original firmwares in order to be able to accurately describe those features). |
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| 21:56:08 | theprodukkt | u cant work with javascript code in the wiki, can u? |
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| 21:57:05 | theprodukkt | as i understood the orginal firmware is nessesary (written like that<-?) for the filetransfer |
| 21:57:19 | apo` | necessary |
| 21:57:20 | apo` | Yup |
| 21:57:41 | linuxstb_ | I don't know. But if you came up with a nice html/javascript feature comparison page, I'm sure it would be hosted on rockbox.org. |
| 21:57:58 | linuxstb_ | (if the wiki couldn't handle it) |
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| 22:48:18 | earHertz | linuxstb here? |
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| 22:59:28 | linuxstb_ | earHertz: Yes. |
| 22:59:51 | earHertz | linuxstb: YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT LINUX? |
| 22:59:56 | earHertz | er, sorrry |
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| 23:01:13 | linuxstb_ | What particular part of Linux? |
| 23:01:34 | earHertz | kernel, cstblib |
| 23:01:58 | linuxstb_ | Not really, no. |
| 23:02:03 | earHertz | oh |
| 23:02:28 | earHertz | mmecpy and the like are written in asm in order to be fast, yes? |
| 23:02:58 | linuxstb_ | That's the idea... |
| 23:03:56 | linuxstb_ | I did a quick google for "arm7tdmi" and "memcpy", and that gave a few interesting links. Apparently uclibc has an arm7tdmi optimised memcpy (but I didn't look for it). |
| 23:04:11 | amiconn | gah! |
| 23:04:42 | amiconn | The new twiki broke the green tick graphics and replaced it with the text 'DONE' |
| 23:04:58 | amiconn | Pages like http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GraphicsAPI are looking really strange now |
| 23:06:50 | earHertz | linuxstb: I think I have an implementation of memcoy that;s faste rthan what's in teh kernel sources |
| 23:06:55 | amiconn | It seems a certain gif file is missing somewhere in the twiki config: choice-yes.gif |
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| 23:07:07 | earHertz | that disturbs me |
| 23:07:38 | amiconn | Mno, it's there... |
| 23:08:02 | * | amiconn is puzzled |
| 23:09:14 | midkay | works for me.. |
| 23:09:29 | amiconn | Hmpf, and the 'View raw' link is also gone - very bad for locked topics :( |
| 23:09:45 | midkay | agreed. |
| 23:10:05 | midkay | and i'd imagine for older revisions. |
| 23:10:37 | midkay | i actually wanted to use such a feature now, i changed something in PluginIndex for the "new theme" we got for a little while and to change it back i need to view raw of the last revision, but there's no such button... |
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| 23:13:20 | amiconn | Aha, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiPreferences should contain "Set Y = %ICON{choice-yes}%" instead of "Set Y = DONE" as it is now |
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| 23:14:04 | * | amiconn summons Zagor |
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| 23:15:05 | * | petur notes Zagor not here |
| 23:15:14 | theprodukkt | im back :) |
| 23:15:22 | linuxstb_ | earHertz: The Linux version of memcpy is possibly optimised for more powerful ARM processors. Whereas you've optimised yours for the arm7tdmi. Have you tried searching for memcpy implementations for the arm7tdmi specifically? |
| 23:15:58 | lowlight | anyone here understand viewer.c? |
| 23:16:31 | earHertz | linuxstb: no |
| 23:16:52 | theprodukkt | please tell me which is the best: ipod / iauido / iriver h340... |
| 23:17:01 | theprodukkt | i have to buy one of them fast |
| 23:17:04 | theprodukkt | but cant decide |
| 23:17:14 | earHertz | linuxstb: but the nature of it is, my version would be faster in any ARM I suspect. |
| 23:18:01 | amiconn | linuxstb, earHertz: (1) The speed relation could also depend on the memory interface width |
| 23:18:32 | amiconn | (2) My impression is that linux developers usually don't optimise much |
| 23:18:47 | earHertz | amiconn: expand on 1? you mean the bandwidth? |
| 23:19:03 | amiconn | 16 vs. 32bit |
| 23:19:28 | earHertz | amiconn: then why trouble to write it in asm? teh non-aligned copy is heavikly (and well optimized) in teh kernel |
| 23:20:30 | amiconn | I don't know, it's just an impression |
| 23:21:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | theprodukkt: For Rockbox use right now, H340. But then, you also didn't specify which category of iPod. |
| 23:21:28 | * | amiconn suspects that the coldfire linux memcpy is also slower than rockbox's version |
| 23:21:57 | theprodukkt | the ipod video |
| 23:21:59 | amiconn | But then, rockbox's coldfire memcpy is a code monster compared to a plain C implementation |
| 23:22:08 | theprodukkt | V. generation |
| 23:22:22 | Bagder | well linux on m68k is not very widely used |
| 23:22:29 | Bagder | on arm it is |
| 23:22:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | theprodukkt: Well, the H340 is better supported by Rockbox at the moment. |
| 23:22:45 | linuxstb_ | theprodukkt: Just go with your instinct - they are all good DAPs. |
| 23:23:21 | | Part Paul_The_Nerd |
| 23:23:29 | theprodukkt | i want them to be good also with their orginal firmware |
| 23:23:35 | * | theprodukkt is perfectionist |
| 23:23:47 | theprodukkt | they all cost a lot |
| 23:24:09 | theprodukkt | and i want to have the best for that money |
| 23:24:18 | amiconn | If the original firmware were perfect, there wouldn't be a rockbox port... |
| 23:24:35 | theprodukkt | right |
| 23:25:05 | theprodukkt | i'd prefer the h340 |
| 23:25:10 | theprodukkt | but it is soo big |
| 23:25:23 | theprodukkt | and the tastatur layout isnt the best |
| 23:25:34 | theprodukkt | navigation isnt easy to i heard |
| 23:25:40 | linuxstb_ | The h340 is a good choice for Rockbox because every part of the hardware (I think) has publically available documentation. |
| 23:25:49 | lowlight | anyone understand the viewer.c plugin? |
| 23:25:50 | amiconn | But then, all rockbox supported daps have their pros and cons. None of them is perfect, it depends on what features you're most interested in |
| 23:26:08 | * | petur hugs his h340 |
| 23:26:13 | goffa | i'h i like the h1xx series myself... |
| 23:26:17 | goffa | but then i don't need video |
| 23:26:17 | theprodukkt | at the cowon i dont like the small joystick and the display |
| 23:26:23 | apo` | theprodukkt: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but afaik tastatur is no English word :P You mean keyboard |
| 23:26:33 | theprodukkt | ^^ sry yes |
| 23:26:39 | theprodukkt | i mean keys ;) |
| 23:26:49 | apo` | ^^ |
| 23:27:10 | apo` | Are you from Germany? |
| 23:27:12 | theprodukkt | at the ipod i love the wheel... and the amazing display |
| 23:27:18 | apo` | Me too |
| 23:27:19 | * | theprodukkt is from germany |
| 23:27:25 | goffa | i like my x5 too.. but i don't like the battery life (yet) |
| 23:27:32 | theprodukkt | but i dont like the apple-marketing |
| 23:27:33 | apo` | Well, the wheel. The display on a 4g ain't all that great :P |
| 23:27:36 | apo` | < German, too |
| 23:28:08 | goffa | yeah... apple just isn't right |
| 23:28:17 | apo` | ^^; |
| 23:28:33 | theprodukkt | are there big differences between the ipod and the iriver port of rockbox? |
| 23:28:36 | linuxstb_ | But put Rockbox on an ipod, and it's no longer Apple's. |
| 23:28:39 | apo` | My next mp3 player is gonna be an iPod, anyway. I just need the wheel. |
| 23:29:26 | Bagder | earHertz: arm7tdmi is not ARM arch 5 iirc |
| 23:29:41 | Bagder | so you can just skip the PLD() things |
| 23:29:44 | theprodukkt | do someone know if the host-usb function of the h340 is able to play files directly (without having to copy them) from an external (300gb xD) usb hd? |
| 23:29:49 | Bagder | from the linux asm version of memcpy |
| 23:29:59 | * | ender` yawns |
| 23:30:01 | earHertz | Bagder: yeah, I asked about that in ipodlinux and got the same answer |
| 23:30:04 | apo` | omg |
| 23:30:05 | apo` | ender |
| 23:30:06 | apo` | :O |
| 23:30:12 | ender` | :) |
| 23:30:13 | apo` | Hiya |
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| 23:30:29 | earHertz | Bagder: I actually am thinking my memcpy is faster than the kernels. Help me to prove myself wrong |
| 23:31:16 | PaulJam | theprodukkt: you need to copy the files first (with the original firmware) |
| 23:31:21 | Bagder | well, include the kernel version, cut out the #include lines, remove the PLD() lines and it should more or less work, doesn't it? |
| 23:31:22 | * | amiconn spots an active Bagder and kindly asks for repairing the broken %Y% in twiki |
| 23:31:23 | earHertz | evenif I linked it wrong (eg, not aligned) I'd just add a constant factor to irts cost, right? |
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| 23:31:53 | earHertz | Bagder: yeah, I did (the PLD lines are #defined out anyway, no problwems) |
| 23:32:09 | linuxstb_ | earHertz: I agree with amiconn - Linux isn't always perfectly optimised. So don't be surprised that you've beaten it. |
| 23:32:42 | Bagder | amiconn: no time for that now, sorry |
| 23:33:03 | amiconn | It's just a wiki edit I'm not allowed to perform... |
| 23:33:14 | earHertz | linuxstb_: hmm |
| 23:33:21 | * | petur thinks we need more wiki admins |
| 23:33:44 | earHertz | wouldn't you want tio have memcpy aggressively optiized? OI mean, it gets used a lot, right (except inC++) |
| 23:33:46 | theprodukkt | one more stupid question: does the ipod have usb? |
| 23:34:27 | petur | through a special cable :p |
| 23:34:31 | linuxstb_ | earHertz: It's only the kernel version. Linux applications will use the C library or their own implementations. |
| 23:34:55 | linuxstb_ | (that's why I suggested uclibc) |
| 23:34:55 | theprodukkt | ^^ thats what i dont like at ipod :( |
| 23:35:23 | earHertz | wait, they're NOTthe same? |
| 23:35:30 | earHertz | why the hell not? |
| 23:35:54 | petur | iriver has no special accessories, but then again it already contains everything, you just need the correct (standard) cable |
| 23:36:03 | theprodukkt | will there be a scratch feature using the ipod wheel ;) |
| 23:36:04 | theprodukkt | ? |
| 23:36:04 | linuxstb_ | Because userland apps don't call a kernel function for memcpy... |
| 23:36:41 | petur | theprodukkt: write one ;) |
| 23:37:37 | theprodukkt | how is the handling of the h340? is the keylayout o.k.? (Looks strange to me), is it easy to find the right Song / to navigate through huge amounts of Tracks? |
| 23:37:58 | earHertz | arrrgh |
| 23:38:41 | petur | theprodukkt: I just keep up/down pressed until I'm there. Tip: organize your files better ;) |
| 23:39:34 | Febs | iPod is better than H340 for moving quickly through a long list. H340 is better than iPod at selecting the exact file you want once you get close to it. |
| 23:40:01 | midkay | i'd hardly say the H340 is better at that, since it's not hard on ipod.. |
| 23:40:17 | midkay | slightly easier, but hardly noticeable.. |
| 23:40:20 | petur | h3x0 has MORE buttons and no multi-key combo's |
| 23:40:56 | * | petur must admit he has never even touched an ipod |
| 23:41:12 | apo` | I've touched both |
| 23:41:15 | Febs | midkay: iPod has no tactile feedback, so it's tough to make one-step adjustments without looking at the screen. |
| 23:41:15 | apo` | Prefer the iPod |
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| 23:41:40 | thprdkk|wc3tft | still dont know which i should BUY |
| 23:41:47 | PaulJam | Febs: but the ipod can click. |
| 23:41:51 | thprdkk|wc3tft | please give me an uniform answer ;) |
| 23:41:58 | petur | there isn't one |
| 23:42:07 | thprdkk|wc3tft | ill come back later and want the name of the BEST player ;) |
| 23:42:15 | petur | h340 |
| 23:42:20 | thprdkk|wc3tft | but as it looks now the cowon isnt an alternative |
| 23:42:21 | amiconn | There is no clear 'best' |
| 23:42:28 | midkay | Febs, oh, for sure, you can't do a thing as far as browsing without seeing the screen. |
| 23:42:37 | midkay | but when you see the screen there's no problem.. |
| 23:42:38 | amiconn | ...but if I had to decide between h340 and ipod, I'd choose the h340 |
| 23:42:47 | apo` | ipod! |
| 23:42:50 | apo` | :| |
| 23:43:06 | XavierGr | way to go amiconn |
| 23:43:09 | XavierGr | nice choice |
| 23:43:24 | thprdkk|wc3tft | i already heard the h3x0 uses rockbox better |
| 23:43:25 | XavierGr | (though I know that you still prefer your Archos than an H100/H300) |
| 23:43:29 | midkay | everyone's got an opinion.. just look at the features and see which is best for you. they all run rockbox very similarly. |
| 23:43:34 | Febs | I, on the other hand, sold my H340 and bought an iPod video. However, I probably would not have done that if I didn't also have an H120. |
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| 23:43:49 | petur | thprdkk|wc3tft: the point is, once you have the player, you'll get used to the handling and be happy with it |
| 23:44:24 | PaulJam | if my h320 wouldn't have survived my soldering (replacing the dac) i propably would have bought an h340 |
| 23:44:36 | linuxstb_ | midkay: That's not quite true - Rockbox on the irivers is a lot more advanced than the ipods. And that probably won't change too much considering the lack of hardware docs for the ipods. |
| 23:44:38 | thprdkk|wc3tft | in which parts the rockbox support of the ipod isnt that good than that of the h3x0 |
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| 23:45:02 | fiftyfour123 | will rockbox 3.0 have an HFS+ file system for the ipod? |
| 23:45:04 | midkay | linuxstb, what do you mean, advanced? |
| 23:45:08 | Febs | iPod hardware does not support recording or FM radio without purchasing additional (expensive) accessories. |
| 23:45:08 | Bagder | fiftyfour123: no |
| 23:45:13 | fiftyfour123 | why not? |
| 23:45:23 | Bagder | because 3.0 is not for the ipod |
| 23:45:29 | Febs | fiftyfour123: do you think that the answer has changed since you asked that question earlier on the forums? |
| 23:45:30 | fiftyfour123 | oh |
| 23:45:31 | Bagder | and because no one is insane enough to write code for it |
| 23:45:39 | fiftyfour123 | Febs: you never kno |
| 23:45:45 | Bagder | (HFS that is) |
| 23:46:01 | thprdkk|wc3tft | but the h3x0 is huge and heavy, isnt it? |
| 23:46:07 | fiftyfour123 | i have been trying to launch rockbox off a FAT32 partition on my ipod with the ipl loader but its not working |
| 23:46:33 | midkay | linuxstb_ (wrong nick last time) - what do you mean, it's more advanced? |
| 23:46:34 | earHertz | linuxstb_: thanks, I',m looking at the uclibc niow |
| 23:46:38 | thprdkk|wc3tft | is it possible to use rockbox, ipodlinux and the ipodfirewall on 1 player ? |
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| 23:46:47 | linuxstb_ | midkay: There is still a lot of work to do on the ipod ports, and a lot of it (e.g. USB support, accessories) will require a lot of reverse engineering work because there is no documentation. |
| 23:46:52 | scorche | thprdkk|wc3tft: that would be the archos jukeboxes =P |
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| 23:47:04 | thprdkk|wc3tft | the ipod has better video support! |
| 23:47:04 | Febs | thprdkk|wc3tft: I wouldn't call the H340 heavy. Huge is relative. It's smaller than an Archos Recorder, but bigger than an iPod video. |
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| 23:47:14 | fiftyfour123 | whats ipodfirewall? |
| 23:47:36 | linuxstb_ | midkay: Also, irivers are about to get their first official release. The first official Rockbox for the ipods is still at long way way. |
| 23:47:50 | Febs | My H340 was approximately twice as deep as my 60 GB ipod. Otherwise, the dimensions were about the same. |
| 23:47:54 | linuxstb_ | ^a long way away |
| 23:47:56 | fiftyfour123 | whats ipodfirewall? |
| 23:48:11 | amiconn | Huh? I now get 403 when trying to access the wiki?? |
| 23:48:14 | amiconn | Bagder??? |
| 23:48:23 | Febs | The ipod does fit much better in my pocket than the H340. |
| 23:48:46 | fiftyfour123 | whats ipodfirewall? |
| 23:49:12 | amiconn | Febs: I hope your display stays readable this way... |
| 23:49:14 | * | thprdkk|wc3tft usually doesnt drink alcohol, but i can see things twice :) |
| 23:49:30 | fiftyfour123 | thprdkk|wc3tft: whats ipodfirewall? |
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| 23:49:48 | Bagder | sorry stopping web server now |
| 23:49:48 | thprdkk|wc3tft | oh **** |
| 23:50:00 | thprdkk|wc3tft | i was thinking bout firmware |
| 23:50:16 | amiconn | Hmpf.... |
| 23:50:17 | fiftyfour123 | oh, lol |
| 23:50:23 | Bagder | major problemo |
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| 23:50:38 | * | thprdkk|wc3tft slaps thprdkk|wc3tft around with nuclear waste |
| 23:50:49 | amiconn | Now www.rockbox.org just produces connection resets... |
| 23:50:57 | Bagder | "sorry stopping web server now" |
| 23:51:17 | Bagder | and I'm afraid it is not coming back for a little while |
| 23:51:22 | thprdkk|wc3tft | lol |
| 23:51:26 | thprdkk|wc3tft | what r u doin ;)? |
| 23:51:41 | Bagder | ls -la twiki/ |
| 23:51:41 | Bagder | total 16 |
| 23:51:41 | Bagder | drwxr−−r−− 3 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 5 23:48 . |
| 23:51:41 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Bagder |
| 23:51:41 | Bagder | drwxrwsr-x 53 bjst rockbox 8192 Jul 5 14:29 .. |
| 23:51:41 | Bagder | -rw-r−−r−− 1 www-data www-data 0 Jul 5 23:39 .If_you_will_not_allow_me_to_make_that_that_I_want_-_I_to_you_shall_erase_all_site |
| 23:51:43 | Bagder | -rw-r−−r−− 1 www-data www-data 0 Jul 5 23:41 .You_are_guilty! |
| 23:52:06 | Bagder | you laugh, I do not |
| 23:52:25 | thprdkk|wc3tft | 'scuse me |
| 23:52:33 | apo` | Ouch |
| 23:52:37 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 23:52:37 | * | thprdkk|wc3tft doesnt understand the log postet above |
| 23:52:50 | apo` | Some guy obviously broke into the site |
| 23:53:00 | apo` | Some guy who doesn't speak English* |
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| 23:53:24 | thprdkk|wc3tft | dont look at me xD |
| 23:53:37 | earHertz | the uclibc memcpy is buizarre |
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| 23:53:56 | thprdkk|wc3tft | mikearthur: i hear memcpy all the time |
| 23:54:01 | thprdkk|wc3tft | what are you working at? |
| 23:54:21 | * | amiconn wonders how that's possible |
| 23:54:23 | XavierGr | Bagder? |
| 23:54:40 | XavierGr | wow |
| 23:54:48 | petur | a hole in the new wiki? |
| 23:54:56 | Bagder | there's a hole somewhere at least |
| 23:55:06 | Bagder | and its in the web somewhere |
| 23:55:24 | thprdkk|wc3tft | and theres no backup ? |
| 23:55:25 | XavierGr | do you have a backup just in case? |
| 23:55:44 | Bagder | atm, I don't care |
| 23:55:55 | * | thprdkk|wc3tft cares |
| 23:55:57 | Bagder | a backup has the same problems |
| 23:56:05 | thprdkk|wc3tft | what problems? |
| 23:56:10 | scorche | holes |
| 23:56:10 | petur | the hole |
| 23:56:13 | amiconn | ? |
| 23:56:21 | apo` | security hole in the wiki |
| 23:56:24 | amiconn | A backup is just data... why should it have a hole? |
| 23:56:33 | Bagder | ? |
| 23:56:39 | Bagder | I backup more than just data |
| 23:56:43 | thprdkk|wc3tft | why dont u use the wikimedia wiki? |
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| 23:57:16 | thprdkk|wc3tft | more than data? |
| 23:57:29 | thprdkk|wc3tft | is there anything else on your server than data? |
| 23:57:37 | thprdkk|wc3tft | do u backup the cpu / ram? |
| 23:57:44 | thprdkk|wc3tft | excuse me, this is not funny |
| 23:57:50 | thprdkk|wc3tft | forgot about that |
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