#rockbox 2006-07-07

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#rockbox log for 2006-07-07

00:00:04	jazzbone	he had a quite specific question about payment, I think, we both miss words to translate it. :)
00:00:43	apo`	Do you know dict.leo.org?
00:00:48	apo`	It's quite useful
00:00:55	apo`	Bankeinzug = bank collection
00:01:25	petur	theprodukkt: they'll want cash first. Find somebody with a credit card
00:02:25	petur	otoh, it took you days to decide, now wait a few days to get it... then the website may be back up, you'll need it to install rockbox ;)
00:02:40	apo`	^^
00:02:41	jazzbone	apo: no, didn't know that, thank you. Looks useful.
00:02:46	apo`	Indeed :)
00:03:19	apo`	I nearly only use it for German->English, though. When I don't know a word I'm usually too lazy to look it up and try to guess from the context :P
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00:05:23	jazzbone	one thing I can't guess whole day: what does "No ETA yet" mean? Google led me to some spanish terrorists...
00:06:05	apo`	No estimated time of arrival
00:06:13	PaulJam	no Estimated Time of Arrival (i think)
00:06:16	apo`	aka we don't know when the site will be back up
00:06:38	Genre9mp3	Estimated Terrorist Act
00:06:39	apo`	http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=de&agent=firefox-de&search=ETA *cough
00:06:40	apo`	:P
00:06:41	Genre9mp3	:P
00:06:59	jazzbone	thx, everybody. :)
00:07:23	apo`	If you have firefox, you can make a nice bookmark so you'll just have to type leo <word> to have it translated.
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00:39:39	apo`	Cookies!
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00:43:30	petur	where?
00:44:20	apo`	Nowhere
00:44:20	apo`	:(
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00:52:07	preglow	waht!
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00:54:26	petur	preglow?
00:55:20	rUiSu	hey, does anybody know where i can find a simulator for the gigabeat??
00:58:12	preglow	petur: you're not surprised by me misspelling something, are you?
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00:58:48	petur	I just wondered what made you shout what!
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01:00:06	preglow	i just felt like following up on the exclamations you guys seemed to have such fun doing
01:00:26	petur	;)
01:00:36	preglow	but it's not much fun at all!
01:00:49	preglow	anywho
01:00:58	petur	lol
01:01:06	preglow	i'm off to the land of very good and slightly cheaper beer soon
01:01:19	apo`	Germany?
01:01:26	preglow	england, heh
01:01:29	apo`	>_>
01:01:29	petur	have fun, don't drink too much
01:01:39	preglow	germany would be very slightly cheaper
01:01:58	preglow	petur: that depends what you'd call too much
01:03:28	petur	true... and lucky you, the pubs stay open longer now
01:04:36	preglow	haha
01:04:54	preglow	i like to enjoy my beer in daylight
01:05:11	apo`	He drinks two every morning :P
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01:11:35	preglow	anywho, see you all later
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03:33:55	Paul_The_Nerd	Anyone around know how old any applicable backups may be for the website?
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03:35:54	midkay	only the site admins'd know, i'd imagine..
03:36:07	scorche	i believe they said it was the day before
03:36:20	midkay	quite probable, considering the wiki upgrade..
03:37:04	scorche	not just quite probable....it is what the buck-toothed one said
03:37:32	midkay	you "believe" they said it was the day before.
03:37:33	midkay	how utterly USEFUL.
03:37:33	Paul_The_Nerd	That's good. Last time it set it back a little more than a day, but I figured that there'd also be safeguards after what happened before
03:38:24	Paul_The_Nerd	By the way, if the forums explode while I'm in Louisiana, I'm arbitrarily blaming the two of you since you're around while I'm mentioning that I'm gone.
03:40:58	midkay	haha.
03:42:01	Paul_The_Nerd	I'm in Louisiana until Monday, and internet access will be sporadic at best. If any of them act up, warn them that I'm off spending time with family, so I'll be grumpier than usual when I return.
03:42:23	Paul_The_Nerd	;)
03:42:59	scorche	that'll set em straight!
03:45:07	midkay	paul: grant the dev group edit/delete/move priveleges!!!!
03:45:12	midkay	you now have no reason not to!
03:45:14	midkay	:D
03:45:17	scorche	uh....and me!
03:45:42	midkay	i won't dangle the priveleges about scorche's head, promise. ;)
03:45:42	scorche	:D
03:45:58	scorche	like sharpe does with his "rockbox expert" thingy?
03:46:05	scorche	T_T
03:46:09	scorche	sharpei!
03:46:19	midkay	like the dog!
03:49:09	Paul_The_Nerd	Hehehe
03:51:09	midkay	alright then. i will take no responsibility whatsoever!!!~!!~!!!!!!~~!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE TAHT ON YOUR CONCIENSE>1!!
03:51:51	*	scorche watches as midkay ruins the language
03:51:56	scorche	wurd ^?
03:51:56	Paul_The_Nerd	Actually I was thinking as assigning various developers/experts moderatorship to certain boards in a little time, depending on which ones they tend to talk and offer support on, that way developers can provide a little better support and have a little more control in the areas they tend to work.
03:51:59	lostlogic	this is pathetic... I just got a replacement iPod from apple, and I can't remember how to install the bootloader... I'm reading the manual... twitch
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03:52:15	midkay	haha. owned.
03:52:32	Paul_The_Nerd	With the rate our boards are growing, I've been developing a plan for a bit more graceful expansion to approaching hordes.
03:52:52	midkay	Paul_The_Nerd, i don't visit the forums nearly often enough to really care, but i think some priveleges in all forums could prove useful..
03:52:54	Paul_The_Nerd	lostlogic: Well the ipod_fw commands are a wee bit arcane, but it does have −−help.
03:53:16	lostlogic	well I also can't download ipod_fw cuz the site's effed... so I'm just going to do it from linux
03:53:50	Paul_The_Nerd	Well ipod_fw is necessary to merge the bootloader
03:53:50	Paul_The_Nerd	ipodpatcher was the dd equivalent
03:53:57	*	scorche feels useless
03:53:59	*	scorche sobs
03:54:03	midkay	you are useless.
03:54:09	Paul_The_Nerd	I have recent copies of both, but unfortunately I don't have my computer until monday.
03:54:18	Genre9mp3	you seem to love eachother!
03:54:21	lostlogic	haha, I'm sure I can build them from linux ;)
03:54:31	Paul_The_Nerd	Ah, right
03:54:59	midkay	scorche loves me.
03:55:03	Paul_The_Nerd	I completely forgot they were source originally. My brain has been broken from 10 hours on the road.
03:55:35	Genre9mp3	midkay: And what about your feelings to him?
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03:56:01	midkay	well, let's just say that, uh, well, you know, uh, the, uh, same can't, uh, be said for, uh, my feelings towards, uh, well, you know... him.
03:56:10	Genre9mp3	haha
03:56:27	midkay	SORRY. s/him/it/!
03:56:32	Paul_The_Nerd	Anyway, the plan is to give developers limited rights on all boards (probably locking and moving topics, at the very least. Maybe even deleting them, though ideally I don't think any topics should be deleted ever unless spam.) Then giving experts boards where they're moderator, depending on what they seem to discuss the most on, and how much I personally trust them. So curry favour while you can. :-P
03:56:33	Genre9mp3	LOL
03:56:45	*	scorche slaps midkay with all of the ferocity of a ho scorned
03:57:26	*	scorche affectionately nudges Paul_The_Nerd
03:57:39	*	Genre9mp3 sets up a fire and leaves
03:57:40	midkay	Paul_The_Nerd, that sounds about right. :)
03:57:43	Genre9mp3	Goodnight all
03:57:53	midkay	Paul_The_Nerd, your plane is perfect. i love it. you're really a genius guy.
03:58:08	Paul_The_Nerd	I do plan to see if there's a little more control over what permissions people can have though.
03:58:11	scorche	he built a plane?!?!?
03:58:15	midkay	sure he did.
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03:58:20	midkay	and his plan is perfect as well.
03:59:10	scorche	maybe since Paul_The_Nerd is gone...i can actually get replies in before he manages to answer them in the same way that i would
03:59:31	Paul_The_Nerd	I was hoping to create a super-Expert group (no discerning state between it and the normal expert group) which has one or two people who can actually assign expert status as well, so that once there are too many people/posts to keep track of, other people can recognize assets to the support area.
03:59:51	*	scorche perks up
03:59:54	Paul_The_Nerd	The only problem there, is that I can give the ability to someone to change usergroups, and they can assign people to any usergroup, rather than just the one(s) I specify.
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04:00:28	midkay	scorche, in your dreams - you know you always reply about ten hours later with - if lucky - a tenth of the charm, information and helpfulness of Paul_The_Nerd's fast, efficient post that came out a few minutes after the question was ASKED.
04:00:42	scorche	>_>
04:00:51	Paul_The_Nerd	So when I get back I'm gonna investigate the software a little more, as I'd like the experts group to be a sorta self-recruiting group, rather than something that stays hand-picked by me.
04:01:24	midkay	just make sure that scorche's on the blacklist.
04:01:45	*	Paul_The_Nerd already has a person or two in mind for this Expert-recruiter status, but will not say who they are now, and if/when it happens, will ask them not to reveal, so that nobody really knows.
04:02:04	Paul_The_Nerd	There will be no visual distinction in the forums as to who is a normal expert, and who can recruit.
04:02:31	midkay	fascination has ensued.
04:02:38	midkay	i'll bribe one of the other admins to tell me who it is.
04:02:50	Paul_The_Nerd	Hehehe
04:02:58	midkay	perhaps offer to fix the voice code in exchange for bagder's slip of the names. :D
04:03:23	Paul_The_Nerd	I think there was a patch that significantly improved some of the voice bugs.
04:03:30	Paul_The_Nerd	I saw it in the tracker right before death ensued.
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04:05:27	midkay	hahaha.hahaha.hah.aha.ha.ha.hazsdfah.
04:05:31	midkay	i rule the channel now.
04:05:40	scorche	...
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04:14:15	Shade[ST]	Hi guys?
04:14:37	midkay	hey..
04:15:18	Shade[ST]	(or as they say in LISP, HelloP)
04:15:54	Shade[ST]	I was wondering if any of you could update me on the status of rockbox on iPod Video −− seeing as the wiki is down
04:16:18	Shade[ST]	midkay : what rockbox do you use?
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04:16:58	midkay	Shade[ST], i have a recorder and ipod 5G.. i also code.
04:18:00	midkay	the status? well, it works fine. :) battery life is lowish at the moment, and there can be some stuttering during playback if you scroll a lot in some cases, but works fine otherwise..
04:18:11	Shade[ST]	replaygain is functional?
04:18:23	Shade[ST]	What's the battery life on a 5G ? 9 hours or so?
04:19:01	midkay	yeah, replaygain works..
04:19:28	midkay	depends on codec/bitrate/backlight, all that, of course, but probably around 8 or 9 hours, yeah..
04:19:39	midkay	maybe 10, i remember seeing that a few times on the wiki page.
04:20:07	Shade[ST]	mp3 / 192 VBR / no backlight and little seeking should be around that?
04:20:09	S0ap	I've been getting 8 hours or so w/APS rips
04:20:16	Shade[ST]	ah.
04:20:20	Shade[ST]	A bit on the light side.
04:20:26	S0ap	crossfeed on
04:20:29	S0ap	replaygain off
04:20:32	Shade[ST]	What performance does stock firmware give you?
04:20:43	S0ap	14-15
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04:21:22	Shade[ST]	If I wish to help with coding, later, would it be easy for a "beginning" programmer like me (2 years of coding experience, but no applicative or GUI training - mostly semantics and algorithms..)
04:21:32	Shade[ST]	*to help?
04:21:56	S0ap	there are soo many open needs, attack any problem you think you can tackle.
04:22:27	Shade[ST]	I was thinking power management..
04:22:53	Shade[ST]	midkay : what is your coding experience, and what do you do in rockbox?
04:22:56	S0ap	they turn themselves off just fine.
04:23:54	midkay	Shade[ST], rockbox is written in C.. i've coded for rockbox for.. maybe two years or so.. random little things mostly, usually to do with plugins.
04:24:32	Shade[ST]	S0ap : power management would be tackling the power consumption and battery life..
04:24:54	S0ap	you mean optimization.
04:25:23	S0ap	making all the code more efficient.
04:25:48	Shade[ST]	yeah, probably.
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04:26:12	Shade[ST]	midkay : had you done coding previously?
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04:26:25	midkay	nope.
04:26:33	Shade[ST]	any lessons^
04:26:35	Shade[ST]	?
04:26:47	midkay	no, not really..
04:27:06	midkay	hadn't coded in C at all prior to that..
04:27:27	kkurbjun	Shade[ST] a good starting point is just to try wring a basic plugin to start and get familiar with rockbox
04:27:34	midkay	i just got the source, did some small changes, figured it out.. once i was pretty familiar with C i got a book just to have a bit larger understanding, but it wasn't necessary.
04:27:46	Shade[ST]	Thanks for your feedback, guys.
04:27:47	kkurbjun	and build from there.. although that's not how everyone chooses to start
04:28:10	Shade[ST]	I'm starting to feel ready to tackle a real program now, and not just school exercises :p
04:29:20	S0ap	Write me a pluggin to sync my contacts and calander, so I don't have to carry my palm-pilot again.
04:29:26	S0ap	and an HTML e-book reader.
04:29:42	Shade[ST]	Hehe. I'll see what I can do.
04:29:58	Shade[ST]	an HTML renderer might be a difficult challenge, but should be do-able.
04:30:22	S0ap	don't need full rendering.
04:30:28	Shade[ST]	and syncing contacts would require the outlook APIs, which aren't open source, IIRC.
04:30:29	Shade[ST]	:p
04:30:36	Shade[ST]	or at least, not free.
04:30:37	S0ap	Just basic markup for text.
04:30:57	Shade[ST]	I'll think about it. I'll have to buy myself an ipod first!
04:30:59	S0ap	Sync to Thunderbird.
04:31:00	Shade[ST]	next week ;)
04:31:12	S0ap	no, no, no. Not for ipod, for all.
04:31:27	Shade[ST]	I know, but I'll need to test it, won't I?
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04:48:07	lostlogic	w00t! replacement iPod fully loaded and back to 'normal'
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05:51:41	rUiSu	hello, who do I make the uisimulator in windows??
05:52:12	rUiSu	:O never mind :P
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10:02:46	pondlife	Probably a very silly and annoying question, but is there anyway to access Flyspray at the moment? I'm sure this has been asked, but I can't check the IRC logs of course...
10:03:00	Bagder	not yet, no
10:03:15	Bagder	I'll bring back the site without twiki soonish
10:03:32	pondlife	Thanks, just wondered.
10:03:35	Bagder	... and then work on cleaning the twiki side and get that back too
10:04:02	Bagder	we now think we know how the little bastard got in
10:04:06	pondlife	Was the backup "infected"?
10:04:08	scorche	oh?
10:04:11	scorche	details?
10:04:12	Bagder	pondlife: yes
10:04:28	Bagder	scorche: crappy apache config that allowed certain file types to get excuted by the server
10:04:41	scorche	the htaccess?
10:04:42	Bagder	upload attachment => view it => wham
10:05:06	Bagder	that made them able to execute almost whatever as the same user as apache
10:05:42	*	[IDC]Dragon heared about some security addons to linux
10:05:54	Bagder	there are many such
10:06:02	[IDC]Dragon	such that a process can't start arbitrary stuff
10:06:14	Bagder	yeah SElinux being one the most known
10:06:21	[IDC]Dragon	useless teaching the pro's ;-)
10:06:30	Bagder	still, it adds lots of extra admining
10:06:43	Bagder	and doing a bad config is still a bad config and will allow stupid things
10:06:54	[IDC]Dragon	nothing out of the box?
10:10:29	*	[IDC]Dragon sees the Rockbox www!!!!
10:10:38	Bagder	back
10:11:04	pondlife	\o/
10:11:16	Mode	"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
10:11:18	Topic	"Rockbox web site is back. No twiki yet." by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
10:11:37	[IDC]Dragon	time for a news entry?
10:11:45	Bagder	ah, good idea
10:12:23	midkay	nice, Bagder :)
10:13:04	[IDC]Dragon	the IRC log survived, now I can go reading ;-)
10:13:17	pondlife	Yep, just what I'm doing...
10:13:37	[IDC]Dragon	instead of asking the obvious again like perhaps 100 people
10:14:54	pondlife	OK - maybe someone with Flyspray access can close http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5632 - petur commited it yesterday.
10:15:23	Bagder	done
10:15:51	pondlife	Thanks
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10:18:16	*	[IDC]Dragon reads... What an idiotic mark left by that "hacker"
10:19:12	Bagder	a true friend
10:21:37	midkay	what mark? that "you are guilty" thing?
10:22:07	[IDC]Dragon	If_you_will_not_allow_me_to_make_that_that_I_want_-_I_to_you_shall_erase_all_site
10:22:21	[IDC]Dragon	You_are_guilty
10:22:33	[IDC]Dragon	yes, that mark
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10:25:08	JohanFischer	does anyone know where to get bootloader for iPod video?
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12:01:52	webguest98	I'm trying to get Hydrairc going, whats the address that I need to use
12:02:34	petur	irc.freenode.net
12:02:46	webguest98	Danke
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12:07:54	petur	http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/07/07/ipod_user_hit_by_lightning/
12:08:29	*	petur was more thinking of the Metallica album 'kill 'm all' :)
12:10:41	Genre9mp3	hehe...or maybe Ride The Lightning! :)
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12:11:08	petur	well that's what they were thinking in the reg article
12:11:36	*	Genre9mp3 know reads it
12:12:33	petur	can't believe you'd survive this if it actually passes through the headphones.
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12:13:27	Genre9mp3	yeah, pretty unbelievable
12:13:37	petur	lunch!
12:14:42	Genre9mp3	bon appetit
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12:22:23	apo`	WB(juxtap)WB - <juxtap> craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax
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12:42:29	S0ap	that would make an interesting channel topic, apo`.
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13:59:49	terr\|\|	Siemka moze mi ktos pomuc..?? z instalacja rockboxa..??
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14:00:49	PaulJam	terr\|\|: please write english.
14:00:50	petur	terr\|\|: if you expect an answer, write in english please ;)
14:01:01	terr\|\|	ok pal
14:01:05	terr\|\|	sorry
14:01:20	terr\|\|	should j prive you..??
14:02:53	*	petur still doesn't understand the question
14:03:13	terr\|\|	can someone send me the files of rock box for i-pod nano
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14:03:32	terr\|\|	and the others neccesary files, because it is somethiung wrong with the site
14:04:23	terr\|\|	http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation-it should be here but it isnt
14:04:45	PaulJam	i think someone posted the necessary files in the forum. the wiki is down at the moment.
14:05:42	RedBreva	Anyone know: If I update the original fw on my Nano with the latest ipod updater, does that screw up the Rockbox installation... that is do I then need to re-install the bootloader etc.?
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14:06:46	PaulJam	you'll probaly need to reinstall the bootloader.
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14:07:21	RedBreva	OK, I'll hold off with that little experiment till the Wiki is back ;-)
14:10:18	terr\|\|	PaulJam can you give me link to neccesary files, because j can't find them ;/
14:10:43	PaulJam	RedBreva: you could propably use the google cache version: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:5CG0O18iEMMJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation+&hl=de&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=1
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14:11:46	petur	yet another reason why we shouldn't have those tools in the wiki
14:11:56	terr\|\|	thx and sorry ;]
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14:12:33	petur	PaulJam: that won't work, the page will still link to the file that isn't there
14:13:19	terr\|\|	ehh
14:13:32	terr\|\|	:{
14:13:42	RedBreva	It works for me. I still have the files on my HD from the initial install :-) I just needed the instructions
14:14:09	RedBreva	PaulJam: Thanks... Never thought of that
14:14:14	PaulJam	petur: that link was for RedBreva, since he has rockbox installed i thought he still has the files and only needs the instructions.
14:14:38	terr\|\|	RedBreva can you send me this files with DCC..??
14:15:43	RedBreva	terr\|\|: Sorry, I have no idea what DCC is :(
14:15:53	terr\|\|	omg
14:16:07	terr\|\|	are you yousing mirc.??
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14:16:25	RedBreva	No, Chatzilla
14:16:28	terr\|\|	you can send files with dcc ;]
14:16:38	terr\|\|	oh
14:16:40	terr\|\|	sorry
14:16:54	terr\|\|	sa can you sened me this files on my mail box..??
14:17:27	PaulJam	RedBreva: do you have have a contextmenu entry to send a file if you right click on terr\|\|s nick?
14:17:56	RedBreva	hehehe, yes I do!!
14:18:23	terr\|\|	RedBreva please can you send me this files ;]
14:18:30	RedBreva	One sec...
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14:18:45	terr\|\|	ok
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14:23:48	RedBreva	terr\|\|: OK...?
14:24:04	terr\|\|	nothing is working ;]
14:24:12	terr\|\|	meaby try mail box..??
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14:26:06	terr\|\|	ipodpatcher.exe, ipod fw.exe, bootloade-nano.bin J need those files ;] can someone send me those..??
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14:26:24	RedBreva	Try http://www.rockbox-themes.org/Rockbox.zip
14:26:30	apo`	terr\|\|: It's I, not J
14:27:45	terr\|\|	heh I'am from Poland ;]
14:27:50	terr\|\|	sorry ;]
14:28:06	RedBreva	terr\|\|: http://www.rockbox-themes.org/Rockbox.zip :D
14:28:47	terr\|\|	thanks it works ;]
14:28:57	RedBreva	OK, I need to go now.... Best of luck ;-)
14:29:00	terr\|\|	thx and sorry for troubles ;] ;] ;] ;]
14:29:05	terr\|\|	=)
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14:56:00	Jungti1234	hi
14:56:11	Jungti1234	markun!! :'(
14:57:08	[IDC]Dragon	hi amiconn
14:58:05	[IDC]Dragon	I was afk most of the time, we got our lawn today, need to work ;-)
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15:01:18	[IDC]Dragon	next I need to water it alot (sorry for OT)
15:01:40	petur	you buy a lawn?
15:02:02	[IDC]Dragon	comes in rolls, like carpet
15:02:17	petur	tsk tsk tsk...
15:03:07	petur	you know you can roll the ground flat, throw seeds on it and stuff like that. cheaper too ;)
15:03:08	[IDC]Dragon	too decadent?
15:03:15	petur	100%
15:03:19	petur	:p
15:03:24	[IDC]Dragon	not much cheaper
15:03:57	petur	more work maybe
15:04:37	[IDC]Dragon	afk again, into the garden
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15:12:44	Panda-	can someone send me a patched H300 1.29 or the fwpatcher.exe?
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15:28:55	SeuZ	HI all :) where can i download the fwpatcher.exe please? the main link seems to be down ( http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot )
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15:33:40	PaulJam	the fwpatcher V6,V5 for iriver can be downloaded here: http://download.rockbox-lounge.com/sonstiges/fwpatcher.exe
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15:36:57	SeuZ	thx PaulJam ;)
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15:37:38	SeuZ	same for voicesfiles or i must wait that th wiki come back?
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16:05:47	Panda-	how many hours can the h320 play videos?
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16:06:05	ricardo_dawkins	hello...
16:06:34	ricardo_dawkins	hello people.....everything is fine over here !!!
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16:07:39	petur	Panda-: none when using rockbox ;)
16:09:09	petur	and no one has managed to stare long enough to the small screen to give you an estimate of video playback under iriver firmware :p
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16:13:03	ricardo_dawkins	sorry...but any developer can help me ?
16:13:37	petur	if you tell what's wrong, maybe... ;)
16:15:05	ricardo_dawkins	http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5050.0
16:15:18	ricardo_dawkins	check my post on the rockbox.org forums
16:15:42	ricardo_dawkins	my iriver H320 can't boot into iriver firmware after installing a Rockbox build
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16:17:26	dj-fu	you probably did it wrong
16:17:32	dj-fu	lol@you.
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16:18:06	ricardo_dawkins	nope...dj-fu
16:18:14	dj-fu	liar
16:18:15	ricardo_dawkins	are you talking to me right ?
16:18:34	petur	ricardo_dawkins: there is an issue with the eeprom getting corrupted sometimes, I get the feeling this may be related, like the iriver firmware crashing on a bad config value.
16:18:41	ricardo_dawkins	it was booting quite well with the official build from rockbox.org
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16:19:21	ricardo_dawkins	so...if the eeprom is corrupted I have a small hope it can boot again into iriver firmware
16:19:24	ricardo_dawkins	right ???
16:19:29	petur	Slasheri: that reminds me that we should get the eeprom driver in there so we can read/write it
16:20:15	petur	ricardo_dawkins: there is a working driver but not yet in the build. so maybe we could read the eeprom from one device and write it into yours
16:20:52	*	petur wonders if the iriver firmware doesn't have a safe config reset trick like rockbox has
16:22:32	petur	anyway, gtg now
16:22:32	ricardo_dawkins	so the driver is in beta. Do you have any estimate when it will be ready ? petur
16:23:19	ricardo_dawkins	anyone beyond me and Mac Dog with the same problem ?
16:23:26	petur	don't know, I think Slasheri wrote it. I'll ask him when he's online
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16:23:46	amiconn	petur: Slasheri's driver probably won't work on H300 without modification
16:23:50	amiconn	gah
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16:30:03	ricardo_dawkins	are you sure, ami ?
16:34:46	amiconn	yes
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16:36:22	Panda-	I just patched my 1.29K firmware with fwpatcher.exe
16:36:33	Panda-	and when I turn it on
16:36:40	Panda-	it shuts down
16:36:54	Panda-	giving Result : -1 (whatever that means)
16:37:14	Panda-	what's the problem??
16:38:24	Panda-	nevermind it loads rockbox now... but it says that the .rockbox directory is not found .... but I DO have .rockbox and rockbox.iriver in my root folder
16:38:41	ricardo_dawkins	maybe you need to place the .rockbox folder on the root drive for your player
16:39:02	ricardo_dawkins	what player is that ?
16:39:05	Panda-	H320
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16:39:26	Bg3r	how did you detached it ?
16:39:39	Bg3r	did you use the "safely remove hardware" thing?
16:41:01	ricardo_dawkins	http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5050.0
16:41:12	ricardo_dawkins	my iriver H320 can't boot into iriver firmware after installing a Rockbox build
16:41:36	ricardo_dawkins	petur told me that the eeprom could be corrupted, is he right ?
16:43:03	Panda-	Bg3r; yeah I did
16:43:12	Panda-	copied h300.hex (patched)
16:43:15	Panda-	safe removed
16:43:18	Panda-	upgrade firmware
16:43:21	Panda-	replug
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16:43:30	Panda-	copy .rockbox and rockbox.iriver
16:43:40	Panda-	and I get .rockbox directory not found
16:43:41	Bg3r	then check your player's HDD for errors
16:43:47	Panda-	how do I do that
16:43:47	Panda-	?
16:43:57	ricardo_dawkins	scandisk in windows
16:44:00	Panda-	oh
16:44:21	ricardo_dawkins	right click the H300 drive...select properties
16:44:33	Panda-	what if theres no error?
16:45:03	ricardo_dawkins	click on the "Tools" tab...and select to Scan for errors
16:45:56	ricardo_dawkins	I dont know if you what to do is theres no error. Mine can't boot into iriver firmware even after I ran a scan on it.
16:46:10	Panda-	=\
16:46:11	sheppard	hrm
16:46:13	Panda-	sucks
16:46:39	sheppard	where do i locate bootloader-video.bin
16:47:20	Bg3r	ricardo_dawkins what happens when you try /
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16:47:48	ricardo_dawkins	Bg3r: it freezes on the LOADING screen. 1.29K firmware.
16:48:14	Bg3r	no bad sectors on the hard disk ?
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16:48:23	Bg3r	any strange sounds ?
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16:48:53	Panda-	well
16:49:02	Panda-	I hear it spin when the player starts up
16:49:03	Panda-	that's all
16:50:17	Bg3r	and sits there forever ?
16:50:32	Panda-	on rockbox?
16:50:33	ricardo_dawkins	yes
16:50:43	Panda-	says .rockbox not found then says installation incomplete
16:50:52	Panda-	and sits there forever.
16:50:52	ricardo_dawkins	bg3r: no bad sector
16:51:13	ricardo_dawkins	bg3r: ran scandisk and formatted the drive twice
16:51:31	ricardo_dawkins	bg3r: still freezin on the loading screen. 1.29K
16:51:34	Bg3r	ah
16:51:40	Bg3r	just to suggest reflashing ...
16:51:58	Bg3r	and i remembered that u can't do it without booting the iriver fw :(
16:53:01	ricardo_dawkins	petur was suggesting to use the driver for reflashing the eeprom from Slasheri
16:53:08	ricardo_dawkins	bg3r: are you a developer ?
16:53:34	Bg3r	so-so :)
16:53:40	ricardo_dawkins	Rockbox is fine....nice media player, WPS support and FM presets...but I need video back
16:53:51	ricardo_dawkins	that's why I upgrade to 1.29K
16:53:52	ricardo_dawkins	:(
16:54:23	Panda-	can you view pics while listenin to music with RB?
16:54:27	Bg3r	ricardo_dawkins i suggest u to test this eeprom driver
16:54:38	Bg3r	Panda- yes, u can, but it depends on the picture size
16:54:58	Bg3r	that is, on the .jpg plus uncompressed picture size
16:55:30	ricardo_dawkins	bg3r: what eeprom driver ? where is it ? I need to compile it ?
16:55:43	ricardo_dawkins	will it brick my H320 ?
16:55:53	Bg3r	i think u must talk with amiconn and Slasheri
16:56:09	Bg3r	Slasheri wrote one for h100...
16:56:20	Bg3r	but amiconn said that it needs editing for h300
16:56:44	sheppard	so anyone know where i can grab bootloader-video.bin for the ipod video?
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16:58:22	Panda-	Bg3r; any idea what's wrong with my player?
16:59:25	ricardo_dawkins	thanks bg3r
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17:00:00	Bg3r	Panda- did you check your player for hdd errors ?
17:00:18	Bg3r	try unzipping the rockbox.zip to the root directory of the player again
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17:01:34	Panda-	how long does scandisk take?
17:01:43	Panda-	it's been on "phase 2" for a few minutes now
17:01:48	Panda-	:{
17:02:38	ricardo_dawkins	a good while
17:02:50	ricardo_dawkins	something like 1 hour or more
17:02:58	ricardo_dawkins	depends on your USB speed
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17:05:05	Panda-	Oh no!!!! 1.1 speed :{{{{{{{{{
17:05:09	Panda-	lol
17:05:31	Bg3r	Panda- connect your player to the charger ...
17:05:48	Panda-	I dont have one
17:06:21	Panda-	I bought it on a forum, and the guy forgot to put in the box... it's being shipped now
17:07:19	ricardo_dawkins	how did you upgrade firmware w/o charger ?
17:07:46	ricardo_dawkins	you were asking for trouble doing that...do you charge by USB ?
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17:08:47	Panda-	ya i fully charged it before updating firmware
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17:11:11	Panda-	can you cancel the scandisk.. I have to leave for work soon and I want to bring the player :\
17:11:13	Panda-	?
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17:11:57	Bg3r	yep
17:11:59	Bg3r	cancel it
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17:12:19	Bg3r	or the battery will go empty soon...
17:12:25	Bg3r	bye
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17:12:53	Panda-	how? the cancel button is greyed out
17:14:52	ricardo_dawkins	? 8-\|
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17:16:26	leftright	heh, sorry SOap, just checking features in Hydra
17:17:04	Panda-	http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7034/h3003ap.png <−−- ricardo_dawkins
17:17:09	slomo17	hi there. does someone know when the rockbox wiki will be back?
17:18:08	ricardo_dawkins	click on the "x" top right
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17:19:50	Panda-	doesnt work
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17:33:29	frando	'No twiki yet' - are the bootloader binaries for ipod 4th gen available in some other way?
17:33:33	frando	ftp? cvs?
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17:40:36	slomo17	also wondering if the x5_fw.bin is avaliable in some way... would really appreciate! thx
17:41:23	Mikachu	is this it? http://www.cowonamerica.com/download/iaudio_x5_jsfw.html
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17:43:03	frando	no, that's the original firmware, think slomo's talking about rockbox ;)
17:43:19	frando	yes, would be just fantastic if someone could upload the .bin's .. should be 2 seconds ;)
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17:43:50	Mikachu	you might still be able to read the pages in google cache
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17:44:15	slomo17	got my x5 today and i'm really bored with it's ugly interface:(
17:45:14	frando	but google does only cache text/html files
17:45:26	frando	we're lookin for the binary (rockbox firmware) files
17:45:26	Mikachu	ah
17:45:40	Mikachu	have you tried googling the filename?
17:45:43	frando	sure
17:45:46	frando	also filemirrors
17:45:47	ricardo_dawkins	any other solutions for this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5050.0
17:45:49	ricardo_dawkins	???
17:46:18	frando	someone who has the files could easily upload them to some webserver, ftp or just add them to the rockbox cvs.
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17:46:39	frando	unfortunately, i don't have the files, otherwise i'd upload them ;)
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17:48:02	Panda-	slomo17; you dont like the x5?
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17:49:23	slomo17	off course i like it - at leats til now:) but not it's 'screen design'
17:51:12	slomo17	the rockbox is ways more esthetic
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17:52:29	slomo17	Mikachu: it's little bit hard to google cause the original firmware has the same name...
17:52:41	Mikachu	ah
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17:55:46	frando	... googling won't help you guys ;) we either gotta wait with installing until twiki is running again or until some cool guy uploads the bins ;)
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18:00:45	frando	ok, gotta leave now
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18:01:42	slomo17	ok - found solution at least for the x5:) nice guy has stored it on a website:
18:01:42	slomo17	http://home.arcor.de/deinegedanken/rockbox/x5_fw.bin
18:02:06	stillunknown	anyone here have an ipod nano?
18:02:15	Mikachu	yes
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18:02:47	stillunknown	does the nano suffer from severe bass rolloff?
18:03:03	Mikachu	not that i know
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18:03:42	stillunknown	can it drive high impedance headphones?
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18:05:01	Mikachu	no idea there
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18:05:48	DeathWo1f	hello all^^ what would i lose for an ipod 5th generation when installing rockbox, other than the drm playing(which doesnt matter since i only put my cd's rips)
18:06:07	chiliraptor	hey, i know the wiki is down but is there a place i can go to download nano themes?
18:06:13	stillunknown	battery time is less
18:06:40	stillunknown	maybe issues with apple should the player break down with rockbox installed, nut i'm not sure about that
18:06:49	DeathWo1f	how much less?
18:07:02	DeathWo1f	and can i finally use it as a mass storing device to copy music?
18:07:06	DeathWo1f	(god that itunes is aweful)
18:07:12	*	stillunknown doesn't have a portable player, i just know it's less, because rockbox is not so optimised yet
18:07:22	stillunknown	it should become a mass storage device
18:07:35	DeathWo1f	cool
18:07:41	DeathWo1f	what about video playing, does that still work?
18:07:45	stillunknown	no
18:08:16	scorche	chiliraptor: www.rockbox-themes.org
18:08:21	chiliraptor	cool thanks
18:08:22	DeathWo1f	i see...
18:08:32	stillunknown	about battery time, at worst i'd expect half the time
18:08:34	DeathWo1f	the new supported audio formats are real tempting though:)
18:08:48	stillunknown	expect that to improve though
18:09:22	stillunknown	not to mention gapless playback
18:09:43	DeathWo1f	the original firmware doesnt allow gapless?
18:11:37	chiliraptor	what exactly is this gapless playback
18:11:42	stillunknown	no, but if you haven't heard it yet, then you are probably not bothered by it
18:11:53	stillunknown	playback with gaps between tracks
18:11:57	stillunknown	*without
18:11:58	DeathWo1f	i'm pretty much addicted to gapless:)
18:12:01	DeathWo1f	thanks to foobar
18:12:21	stillunknown	i thought you had an ipod?
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18:13:23	chiliraptor	does anyone know how much room that doom pod thing takes up
18:13:29	chiliraptor	or if the gameboy thing is any good
18:13:43	Mikachu	doom takes up as much space as the wad file
18:13:49	Mikachu	so about 10MB
18:15:06	stillunknown	DeathWo1f: if you have a ipod, you should have noticed it doesn't do gaplless
18:15:14	stillunknown	*gapless
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18:16:18	DeathWo1f	i just got it:)
18:16:21	DeathWo1f	havent played a single thing yet^^
18:16:26	CYPER^	hello everybody - I need some help :)
18:16:35	DeathWo1f	i'm the kind to change firmware just after receiving hardware:)
18:16:49	CYPER^	Where can i Download that from: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation/bootloader-video.bin
18:17:05	CYPER^	I want to put rockbox on my video ipod :)
18:17:09	Mikachu	you come at a bad time, the site is partially down right now
18:17:11	CYPER^	but some files are just missing
18:17:33	CYPER^	so can't download them from anywhere else?
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18:20:52	chiliraptor	i installed rockbox on my nano for the firs time yesterday when the whole site was donw
18:20:55	chiliraptor	i just used the daily build
18:21:08	chiliraptor	and i looked on google and found the other files
18:21:12	CYPER^	yes, but I can only download the builds
18:21:16	CYPER^	not the loader
18:21:35	chiliraptor	what i did was i looked for an unofficial installer but i didn't use it
18:21:42	chiliraptor	i just took the files from the package
18:21:48	chiliraptor	cus it had all the other stuff
18:21:54	CYPER^	I'll better wait :)
18:22:01	Genre9mp3	Wow...here's the guy who was hit by the lightning while listening to his iPod. See his burned ears!
18:22:02	Genre9mp3	http://www.denverpost.com/portlet/article/html/imageDisplay.jsp?imageId=4017201
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18:22:18	ryran	CYPER^: http://b19.org/rockbox/
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18:26:08	chiliraptor	when installing a theme, do you just put all the folder from the zip into the equivilent folder in .rockbox?
18:26:16	sheppard	so could someone here send me bootloader-video.bin since its no longer on the website and i dont have a cross compiler setup?
18:27:22	stillunknown	http://b19.org/rockbox/
18:27:39	sheppard	woohoo
18:27:48	*	sheppard tips his hat to stillunknown
18:28:07	ryran	you're wearing a hat? :P
18:28:21	sheppard	actually i'm not wearing anything..
18:28:21	sheppard	haha
18:28:27	ryran	hmmm...
18:28:31	ryran	thanks for that
18:29:55	stillunknown	i just copied the link someone else pasted a little while aho
18:30:05	stillunknown	*ago
18:31:30	chiliraptor	where do i put the fonts from the themes i download, i can't find a font folder?
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18:32:31	ryran	create one. or better yet, download the font pack from the daily builds page
18:32:57	chiliraptor	ok, and do i just put the folder in the .rockbox folder?
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18:33:19	ryran	yesh
18:33:29	chiliraptor	thank you
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18:35:38	ryran	0_o
18:35:43	ryran	leftright:
18:35:47	leftright	ty
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19:24:03	Alextremo	Buenas !!!
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19:30:54	CYPER^	Question: Does rockbox support video files by default?
19:31:04	CYPER^	I'm talking about the video ipod
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19:33:59	leftright	iirc rockbox only supports video on some archos targets
19:34:22	CYPER^	no video support for ipod vide :(
19:34:30	leftright	nope
19:34:56	sheppard	nope
19:35:05	CYPER^	is there a request?
19:35:20	CYPER^	do they think to make it work with video
19:35:35	leftright	several, but its doubtfull video will happen
19:36:36	CYPER^	ok 10x :)
19:36:46	leftright	np
19:37:45	CYPER^	is the themes section down?
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19:38:13	leftright	there are problerms with the twiki, they're working on it
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19:38:38	CYPER^	yeah I know, I just wasn't sure if the themes are in the wiki :)
19:39:17	leftright	misticriver has a whole thread dedicated to themes
19:39:27	CYPER^	can i get a link?
19:39:29	CYPER^	10x :)
19:39:49	CYPER^	I need for 5G ipod
19:40:01	CYPER^	I guess mysticriver is site for iRiver
19:40:02	sheppard	yeah the default themes for the ipod video are pretty weak
19:40:04	sheppard	and dont look right
19:40:57	leftright	so edit them
19:41:06	sheppard	hehe
19:41:45	CYPER^	don't know how :)
19:41:59	CYPER^	just put the rockbox and it looks really ugly
19:42:01	CYPER^	small font
19:42:09	CYPER^	not graphics really
19:42:11	CYPER^	just text
19:42:47	leftright	i think there are other themes preloaded under themes,
19:43:30	CYPER^	i saw them :)
19:43:39	CYPER^	now I am in the picture browser
19:43:45	CYPER^	and don't know how to get out
19:43:48	CYPER^	to go to the menu
19:44:08	leftright	dont owm a pod, cant help you there
19:44:17	CYPER^	found how :)
19:44:55	leftright	there is also a manual you can download on the dailies page
19:45:12	CYPER^	I got it :)
19:45:20	CYPER^	I just need thems :)
19:45:37	CYPER^	and why is that the theme works only for thr playback screen
19:45:42	CYPER^	not for the menus :(
19:46:17	*	amiconn points to http://rockbox-themes.org/
19:46:52	*	CYPER^ sends greetings to amiconn
19:46:57	CYPER^	wow :D
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19:55:22	sheppard	ok heres a million dollar question
19:55:31	sheppard	is it possible to not have the sound dissipear while you're fastforwarding?
19:56:18	sheppard	like have it either keep playing what its playing while you seek, or keep playing as you ff at a reduced volume kinda like winamp does
19:56:34	Bagder	no its not possible
19:57:03	sheppard	ah thats a shame
19:57:27	Bagder	feel free to work on that
19:57:39	sheppard	heh
19:57:51	*	sheppard puts that on his very, very, very, long to do list
19:58:00	Bagder	we all have those todo lists
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20:00:38	Mikachu	it happens sometimes on accident, so it shouldn't be too hard :)
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20:05:06	sheppard	hmm
20:05:16	sheppard	if the guy who did the crossbones theme for the ipod video is in here, you rule
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20:21:04	Mariano	does anyone know where I can read some kind of manual on how to install rockbox on my iriver H120?
20:24:21	Mariano	anyone?
20:24:33	Mariano	I would appriciate any help: link, anything.
20:24:34	Bagder	doesn't the h120 manual?
20:24:51	Bagder	the wiki use to contain that info, but that is down atm
20:25:20	Mariano	so, its best to wait for the wiki?
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20:25:57	Bagder	if the manual doesn't have it, then I guess waiting is the option unless someone around here or in the forums guide you
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20:27:04	Mariano	I did not see it on the manual, so I guess I have to wait around
20:27:09	Mariano	cool, thanks :)
20:27:33	sheppard	any eta on the website?
20:28:05	Bagder	a few days or so
20:28:20	Mariano	well, I went on the wiki link and it is broken
20:28:36	Bagder	I told you
20:29:04	Mariano	I thought the eta thing was for me
20:29:07	Mariano	nevermind
20:29:09	Bagder	ah
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20:30:13	leftright	err wont google have some cached stuff
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20:31:46	leftright	http://72.14.221.104/search?q=cache:VhPdmVYCP38J:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall+installing+rockbox+on+h120&hl=en&gl=de&ct=clnk&cd=1&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a
20:31:58	leftright	Mariano ^
20:33:09	leftright	pretty much all intact in googles cache
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20:34:09	RedBreva	I just did the same thing to reload my Nano... only problem is if you need to download any files etc. the links don't work...
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21:42:30	x1jmp	has someone thought about adding a LADSPA host to rockbox?
21:43:34	sheppard	ladspa?
21:44:35	x1jmp	"The Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API"
21:45:00	x1jmp	there are a lot of audio plugins for the ladspa architecture
21:45:56	x1jmp	you can have a look at http://www.ladspa.org
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21:57:28	ricardo_dawkins	why the silence ?
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22:47:49	theprodukkt	hi all
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22:49:45	theprodukkt	what do u think about house music
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22:50:57	XavierGr	ehmmm I am not sure what exactly house music is....
22:51:29	theprodukkt	?!
22:51:40	theprodukkt	dont exactly know hot to explain
22:51:49	theprodukkt	i dont know it very well :)
22:51:53	theprodukkt	just one song
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22:52:04	theprodukkt	i'd say its a bit like techno
22:52:16	dejaperdu	can anyone please send me the fwpatcher.exe ?
22:52:22	dejaperdu	for rockbox
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22:57:00	dionoea	dejaperdu: isn't that available on the website ?
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23:00:35	amiconn	dionoea: The wiki is still down, hence no fwpatcher
23:01:30	dionoea	oh ... what happened ?
23:01:48	amiconn	Check the news section
23:02:04	amiconn	...and the irc log from wednesday
23:02:12	dionoea	was the breakin due to twiki ?
23:02:16	Mikachu	prot?
23:02:20	pixelma	dionoea: look at the topic ;)
23:02:31	dionoea	well you should use media wiki :)
23:02:39	dionoea	we've never had any problems with it
23:02:41	Bagder	blah I say
23:03:01	Bagder	and yes it has had problems
23:03:17	dejaperdu	can anyone dcc me fwpatcher.exe?
23:03:37	RedBreva	http://www.rockbox-themes.org/Rockbox_Install_Nano.zip may help
23:03:57	amiconn	huh?
23:04:01	S0ap	is fwpatcher.exe device specific?
23:04:22	RedBreva	It's fwpatcher and ipod_fw + the nano bootloader, dont ahve any other bootloaders atm...
23:04:28	amiconn	fwpatcher is for irivers only iirc
23:04:45	RedBreva	Sorry - ipodpatcher
23:04:49	dejaperdu	nvm
23:04:55	dejaperdu	somone else sent me one
23:05:54	S0ap	Has there ever been any discussion of splitting the channel into
23:06:02	S0ap	#rockbox-dev and
23:06:22	S0ap	#rockbox-help or #rockbox-chat?
23:06:45	dionoea	so you'd dump #rockbox ? :D
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23:07:06	Bagder	S0ap: we haven't felt the need for that yet
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23:09:52	Mikachu	that usually doesn't work
23:10:53	*	amiconn is reading the rockbox website on his mobile phone, using opera mini
23:11:35	dionoea	lol
23:14:58	dejaperdu	what doe sthe voice options do?
23:15:04	dejaperdu	this is my first time installing rockbox
23:19:01	Bagder	dejaperdu: they are for speaking the menus
23:19:10	Bagder	and possibly dir names etc
23:20:54	dejaperdu	ooh i see
23:21:05	dejaperdu	is it just me or does rockbox make your iriver hotter?
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23:22:11	S0ap	I'll say! I saw this H340 sitting at the end of the bar with a smokin' rockbox, and I bought her a drink.
23:22:45	dejaperdu	wtf
23:23:19	S0ap	I'm not very familiar with the irivers, but if the battery life isn't as long with rockbox as it is with stock...then the extra energy consumption would = extra heat.
23:23:39	dejaperdu	ooh ya
23:23:50	dejaperdu	is it a known fact that they battery life is shorter?
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23:23:54	Bagder	no
23:23:59	Bagder	rockbox runs longer
23:24:03	Bagder	than the original firmware
23:24:25	dejaperdu	oh
23:24:34	Bagder	(on irivers)
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23:25:52	S0ap	if the battery life is longer, then it is hard to believe it runs hotter.
23:26:04	Bagder	I agree
23:26:16	Bagder	it seems very hard to explain
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23:34:19	ricardo_dawkins	any developer here ?
23:34:26	dejaperdu	well as long as it doenst hurt my iriver i dont care about the extra heat
23:34:27	ricardo_dawkins	ricardo says hi...! :D
23:34:40	ricardo_dawkins	heat hurts the battery...
23:35:15	dejaperdu	its not much
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23:36:07	Bagder	dejaperdu: what target?
23:36:51	dejaperdu	target? ...i have an h320 iriver
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23:37:22	Bagder	and how do you know it is warmer now?
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23:38:06	dejaperdu	i dont, im just kinda paranoid so any slight increase in tmeptuer worries me
23:38:22	dejaperdu	dont worry im sure its not gonna be a problem sorry for bringing it up
23:38:28	Bagder	hehe
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23:38:35	Genre9mp3	AFAIK the CPU is slightly cooler with rockbox than in original fw
23:38:37	dejaperdu	besides i live in bakersfiled its over 100 degrees out side ahha
23:38:46	Bagder	whoa
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23:39:22	dejaperdu	ya it sucks
23:39:28	DarkMan^	hello
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23:41:39	Bagder	yes, hide hiiiiide
23:41:45	Bagder	:-P
23:44:01	midkay	haha.
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