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#rockbox log for 2006-07-07

00:00:04jazzbonehe had a quite specific question about payment, I think, we both miss words to translate it. :)
00:00:43apo`Do you know
00:00:48apo`It's quite useful
00:00:55apo`Bankeinzug = bank collection
00:01:25peturtheprodukkt: they'll want cash first. Find somebody with a credit card
00:02:25peturotoh, it took you days to decide, now wait a few days to get it... then the website may be back up, you'll need it to install rockbox ;)
00:02:41jazzboneapo: no, didn't know that, thank you. Looks useful.
00:02:46apo`Indeed :)
00:03:19apo`I nearly only use it for German->English, though. When I don't know a word I'm usually too lazy to look it up and try to guess from the context :P
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00:05:23jazzboneone thing I can't guess whole day: what does "No ETA yet" mean? Google led me to some spanish terrorists...
00:06:05apo`No estimated time of arrival
00:06:13PaulJamno Estimated Time of Arrival (i think)
00:06:16apo`aka we don't know when the site will be back up
00:06:38Genre9mp3Estimated Terrorist Act
00:06:39apo` *cough
00:06:59jazzbonethx, everybody. :)
00:07:23apo`If you have firefox, you can make a nice bookmark so you'll just have to type leo <word> to have it translated.
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00:55:20rUiSuhey, does anybody know where i can find a simulator for the gigabeat??
00:58:12preglowpetur: you're not surprised by me misspelling something, are you?
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00:58:48peturI just wondered what made you shout what!
01:00:06preglowi just felt like following up on the exclamations you guys seemed to have such fun doing
01:00:36preglowbut it's not much fun at all!
01:01:06preglowi'm off to the land of very good and slightly cheaper beer soon
01:01:26preglowengland, heh
01:01:29peturhave fun, don't drink too much
01:01:39preglowgermany would be very slightly cheaper
01:01:58preglowpetur: that depends what you'd call too much
01:03:28peturtrue... and lucky you, the pubs stay open longer now
01:04:54preglowi like to enjoy my beer in daylight
01:05:11apo`He drinks two every morning :P
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01:11:35preglowanywho, see you all later
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03:33:55Paul_The_NerdAnyone around know how old any applicable backups may be for the website?
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03:35:54midkayonly the site admins'd know, i'd imagine..
03:36:07scorchei believe they said it was the day before
03:36:20midkayquite probable, considering the wiki upgrade..
03:37:04scorchenot just quite is what the buck-toothed one said
03:37:32midkayyou "believe" they said it was the day before.
03:37:33midkayhow utterly USEFUL.
03:37:33Paul_The_NerdThat's good. Last time it set it back a little more than a day, but I figured that there'd also be safeguards after what happened before
03:38:24Paul_The_NerdBy the way, if the forums explode while I'm in Louisiana, I'm arbitrarily blaming the two of you since you're around while I'm mentioning that I'm gone.
03:42:01Paul_The_NerdI'm in Louisiana until Monday, and internet access will be sporadic at best. If any of them act up, warn them that I'm off spending time with family, so I'll be grumpier than usual when I return.
03:42:59scorchethat'll set em straight!
03:45:07midkaypaul: grant the dev group edit/delete/move priveleges!!!!
03:45:12midkayyou now have no reason not to!
03:45:17scorcheuh....and me!
03:45:42midkayi won't dangle the priveleges about scorche's head, promise. ;)
03:45:58scorchelike sharpe does with his "rockbox expert" thingy?
03:46:19midkaylike the dog!
03:51:09midkayalright then. i will take no responsibility whatsoever!!!~!!~!!!!!!~~!!! HOW DO YOU LIKE TAHT ON YOUR CONCIENSE>1!!
03:51:51*scorche watches as midkay ruins the language
03:51:56scorchewurd ^?
03:51:56Paul_The_NerdActually I was thinking as assigning various developers/experts moderatorship to certain boards in a little time, depending on which ones they tend to talk and offer support on, that way developers can provide a little better support and have a little more control in the areas they tend to work.
03:51:59lostlogicthis is pathetic... I just got a replacement iPod from apple, and I can't remember how to install the bootloader... I'm reading the manual... *twitch*
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03:52:15midkayhaha. owned.
03:52:32Paul_The_NerdWith the rate our boards are growing, I've been developing a plan for a bit more graceful expansion to approaching hordes.
03:52:52midkayPaul_The_Nerd, i don't visit the forums nearly often enough to really care, but i think some priveleges in all forums could prove useful..
03:52:54Paul_The_Nerdlostlogic: Well the ipod_fw commands are a wee bit arcane, but it does have −−help.
03:53:16lostlogicwell I also can't download ipod_fw cuz the site's effed... so I'm just going to do it from linux
03:53:50Paul_The_NerdWell ipod_fw is necessary to merge the bootloader
03:53:50Paul_The_Nerdipodpatcher was the dd equivalent
03:53:57*scorche feels useless
03:53:59*scorche sobs
03:54:03midkayyou are useless.
03:54:09Paul_The_NerdI have recent copies of both, but unfortunately I don't have my computer until monday.
03:54:18Genre9mp3you seem to love eachother!
03:54:21lostlogichaha, I'm sure I can build them from linux ;)
03:54:31Paul_The_NerdAh, right
03:54:59midkayscorche loves me.
03:55:03Paul_The_NerdI completely forgot they were source originally. My brain has been broken from 10 hours on the road.
03:55:35Genre9mp3midkay: And what about your feelings to him?
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03:56:01midkaywell, let's just say that, uh, well, you know, uh, the, uh, same can't, uh, be said for, uh, my feelings towards, uh, well, you know... him.
03:56:27midkaySORRY. s/him/it/!
03:56:32Paul_The_NerdAnyway, the plan is to give developers limited rights on all boards (probably locking and moving topics, at the very least. Maybe even deleting them, though ideally I don't think any topics should be deleted ever unless spam.) Then giving experts boards where they're moderator, depending on what they seem to discuss the most on, and how much I personally trust them. So curry favour while you can. :-P
03:56:45*scorche slaps midkay with all of the ferocity of a ho scorned
03:57:26*scorche affectionately nudges Paul_The_Nerd
03:57:39*Genre9mp3 sets up a fire and leaves
03:57:40midkayPaul_The_Nerd, that sounds about right. :)
03:57:43Genre9mp3Goodnight all
03:57:53midkayPaul_The_Nerd, your plane is perfect. i love it. you're really a genius guy.
03:58:08Paul_The_NerdI do plan to see if there's a little more control over what permissions people can have though.
03:58:11scorchehe built a plane?!?!?
03:58:15midkaysure he did.
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03:58:20midkayand his plan is perfect as well.
03:59:10scorchemaybe since Paul_The_Nerd is gone...i can actually get replies in before he manages to answer them in the same way that i would
03:59:31Paul_The_NerdI was hoping to create a super-Expert group (no discerning state between it and the normal expert group) which has one or two people who can actually assign expert status as well, so that once there are too many people/posts to keep track of, other people can recognize assets to the support area.
03:59:51*scorche perks up
03:59:54Paul_The_NerdThe only problem there, is that I can give the ability to someone to change usergroups, and they can assign people to any usergroup, rather than just the one(s) I specify.
04:00:28midkayscorche, in your dreams - you know you always reply about ten hours later with - if lucky - a tenth of the charm, information and helpfulness of Paul_The_Nerd's fast, efficient post that came out a few minutes after the question was ASKED.
04:00:51Paul_The_NerdSo when I get back I'm gonna investigate the software a little more, as I'd like the experts group to be a sorta self-recruiting group, rather than something that stays hand-picked by me.
04:01:24midkayjust make sure that scorche's on the blacklist.
04:01:45*Paul_The_Nerd already has a person or two in mind for this Expert-recruiter status, but will not say who they are now, and if/when it happens, will ask them not to reveal, so that nobody really knows.
04:02:04Paul_The_NerdThere will be no visual distinction in the forums as to who is a normal expert, and who can recruit.
04:02:31midkayfascination has ensued.
04:02:38midkayi'll bribe one of the other admins to tell me who it is.
04:02:58midkayperhaps offer to fix the voice code in exchange for bagder's slip of the names. :D
04:03:23Paul_The_NerdI think there was a patch that significantly improved some of the voice bugs.
04:03:30Paul_The_NerdI saw it in the tracker right before death ensued.
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04:05:31midkayi rule the channel now.
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04:14:15Shade[ST]Hi guys?
04:15:18Shade[ST](or as they say in LISP, HelloP)
04:15:54Shade[ST]I was wondering if any of you could update me on the status of rockbox on iPod Video −− seeing as the wiki is down
04:16:18Shade[ST]midkay : what rockbox do you use?
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04:16:58midkayShade[ST], i have a recorder and ipod 5G.. i also code.
04:18:00midkaythe status? well, it works fine. :) battery life is lowish at the moment, and there can be some stuttering during playback if you scroll a lot in some cases, but works fine otherwise..
04:18:11Shade[ST]replaygain is functional?
04:18:23Shade[ST]What's the battery life on a 5G ? 9 hours or so?
04:19:01midkayyeah, replaygain works..
04:19:28midkaydepends on codec/bitrate/backlight, all that, of course, but probably around 8 or 9 hours, yeah..
04:19:39midkaymaybe 10, i remember seeing that a few times on the wiki page.
04:20:07Shade[ST]mp3 / 192 VBR / no backlight and little seeking should be around that?
04:20:09S0apI've been getting 8 hours or so w/APS rips
04:20:20Shade[ST]A bit on the light side.
04:20:26S0apcrossfeed on
04:20:29S0apreplaygain off
04:20:32Shade[ST]What performance does stock firmware give you?
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04:21:22Shade[ST]If I wish to help with coding, later, would it be easy for a "beginning" programmer like me (2 years of coding experience, but no applicative or GUI training - mostly semantics and algorithms..)
04:21:32Shade[ST]*to help?
04:21:56S0apthere are soo many open needs, attack any problem you think you can tackle.
04:22:27Shade[ST]I was thinking power management..
04:22:53Shade[ST]midkay : what is your coding experience, and what do you do in rockbox?
04:22:56S0apthey turn themselves off just fine.
04:23:54midkayShade[ST], rockbox is written in C.. i've coded for rockbox for.. maybe two years or so.. random little things mostly, usually to do with plugins.
04:24:32Shade[ST]S0ap : power management would be tackling the power consumption and battery life..
04:24:54S0apyou mean optimization.
04:25:23S0apmaking all the code more efficient.
04:25:48Shade[ST]yeah, probably.
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04:26:12Shade[ST]midkay : had you done coding previously?
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04:26:33Shade[ST]any lessons^
04:26:47midkayno, not really..
04:27:06midkayhadn't coded in C at all prior to that..
04:27:27kkurbjunShade[ST] a good starting point is just to try wring a basic plugin to start and get familiar with rockbox
04:27:34midkayi just got the source, did some small changes, figured it out.. once i was pretty familiar with C i got a book just to have a bit larger understanding, but it wasn't necessary.
04:27:46Shade[ST]Thanks for your feedback, guys.
04:27:47kkurbjunand build from there.. although that's not how everyone chooses to start
04:28:10Shade[ST]I'm starting to feel ready to tackle a real program now, and not just school exercises :p
04:29:20S0apWrite me a pluggin to sync my contacts and calander, so I don't have to carry my palm-pilot again.
04:29:26S0apand an HTML e-book reader.
04:29:42Shade[ST]Hehe. I'll see what I can do.
04:29:58Shade[ST]an HTML renderer might be a difficult challenge, but should be do-able.
04:30:22S0apdon't need full rendering.
04:30:28Shade[ST]and syncing contacts would require the outlook APIs, which aren't open source, IIRC.
04:30:36Shade[ST]or at least, not free.
04:30:37S0apJust basic markup for text.
04:30:57Shade[ST]I'll think about it. I'll have to buy myself an ipod first!
04:30:59S0apSync to Thunderbird.
04:31:00Shade[ST]next week ;)
04:31:12S0apno, no, no. Not for ipod, for all.
04:31:27Shade[ST]I know, but I'll need to test it, won't I?
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04:48:07lostlogicw00t! replacement iPod fully loaded and back to 'normal'
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05:51:41rUiSuhello, who do I make the uisimulator in windows??
05:52:12rUiSu:O never mind :P
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10:02:46pondlifeProbably a very silly and annoying question, but is there anyway to access Flyspray at the moment? I'm sure this has been asked, but I can't check the IRC logs of course...
10:03:00Bagdernot yet, no
10:03:15BagderI'll bring back the site without twiki soonish
10:03:32pondlifeThanks, just wondered.
10:03:35Bagder... and then work on cleaning the twiki side and get that back too
10:04:02Bagderwe now think we know how the little bastard got in
10:04:06pondlifeWas the backup "infected"?
10:04:12Bagderpondlife: yes
10:04:28Bagderscorche: crappy apache config that allowed certain file types to get excuted by the server
10:04:41scorchethe htaccess?
10:04:42Bagderupload attachment => view it => wham
10:05:06Bagderthat made them able to execute almost whatever as the same user as apache
10:05:42*[IDC]Dragon heared about some security addons to linux
10:05:54Bagderthere are many such
10:06:02[IDC]Dragonsuch that a process can't start arbitrary stuff
10:06:14Bagderyeah SElinux being one the most known
10:06:21[IDC]Dragonuseless teaching the pro's ;-)
10:06:30Bagderstill, it adds lots of extra admining
10:06:43Bagderand doing a bad config is still a bad config and will allow stupid things
10:06:54[IDC]Dragonnothing out of the box?
10:10:29*[IDC]Dragon sees the Rockbox www!!!!
10:11:16Mode"#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.)
10:11:18Topic"Rockbox web site is back. No twiki yet." by Bagder (n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder)
10:11:37[IDC]Dragontime for a news entry?
10:11:45Bagderah, good idea
10:12:23midkaynice, Bagder :)
10:13:04[IDC]Dragonthe IRC log survived, now I can go reading ;-)
10:13:17pondlifeYep, just what I'm doing...
10:13:37[IDC]Dragoninstead of asking the obvious again like perhaps 100 people
10:14:54pondlifeOK - maybe someone with Flyspray access can close - petur commited it yesterday.
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10:18:16*[IDC]Dragon reads... What an idiotic mark left by that "hacker"
10:19:12Bagdera true friend
10:21:37midkaywhat mark? that "you are guilty" thing?
10:22:33[IDC]Dragonyes, that mark
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10:25:08JohanFischerdoes anyone know where to get bootloader for iPod video?
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10:34:13BagderI'll be back tonight
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10:43:31peturnice to have the webclient back
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10:58:34amiconnhi [IDC]Dragon
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11:19:53Genre9mp3woohoo! Back in bussiness!
11:20:27*Genre9mp3 starts reading the logs
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12:01:52webguest98I'm trying to get Hydrairc going, whats the address that I need to use
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12:08:29*petur was more thinking of the Metallica album 'kill 'm all' :)
12:10:41Genre9mp3hehe...or maybe Ride The Lightning! :)
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12:11:08peturwell that's what they were thinking in the reg article
12:11:36*Genre9mp3 know reads it
12:12:33peturcan't believe you'd survive this if it actually passes through the headphones.
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12:13:27Genre9mp3yeah, pretty unbelievable
12:14:42Genre9mp3bon appetit
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12:22:23apo`*WB(juxtap)WB* - <juxtap> craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax
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12:42:29S0apthat would make an interesting channel topic, apo`.
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13:21:33apo`S0ap: Yea
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13:59:49terr||Siemka moze mi ktos pomuc..?? z instalacja rockboxa..??
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14:00:49PaulJamterr||: please write english.
14:00:50peturterr||: if you expect an answer, write in english please ;)
14:01:01terr||ok pal
14:01:20terr||should j prive you..??
14:02:53*petur still doesn't understand the question
14:03:13terr||can someone send me the files of rock box for i-pod nano
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14:03:32terr||and the others neccesary files, because it is somethiung wrong with the site
14:04:23terr|| should be here but it isnt
14:04:45PaulJami think someone posted the necessary files in the forum. the wiki is down at the moment.
14:05:42RedBrevaAnyone know: If I update the original fw on my Nano with the latest ipod updater, does that screw up the Rockbox installation... that is do I then need to re-install the bootloader etc.?
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14:06:46PaulJamyou'll probaly need to reinstall the bootloader.
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14:07:21RedBrevaOK, I'll hold off with that little experiment till the Wiki is back ;-)
14:10:18terr||PaulJam can you give me link to neccesary files, because j can't find them ;/
14:10:43PaulJamRedBreva: you could propably use the google cache version:
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14:11:46peturyet another reason why we shouldn't have those tools in the wiki
14:11:56terr||thx and sorry ;]
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14:12:33peturPaulJam: that won't work, the page will still link to the file that isn't there
14:13:42RedBrevaIt works for me. I still have the files on my HD from the initial install :-) I just needed the instructions
14:14:09RedBrevaPaulJam: Thanks... Never thought of that
14:14:14PaulJampetur: that link was for RedBreva, since he has rockbox installed i thought he still has the files and only needs the instructions.
14:14:38terr||RedBreva can you send me this files with DCC..??
14:15:43RedBrevaterr||: Sorry, I have no idea what DCC is :(
14:16:07terr||are you yousing mirc.??
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14:16:25RedBrevaNo, Chatzilla
14:16:28terr||you can send files with dcc ;]
14:16:54terr||sa can you sened me this files on my mail box..??
14:17:27PaulJamRedBreva: do you have have a contextmenu entry to send a file if you right click on terr||s nick?
14:17:56RedBrevahehehe, yes I do!!
14:18:23terr||RedBreva please can you send me this files ;]
14:18:30RedBrevaOne sec...
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14:23:48RedBrevaterr||: OK...?
14:24:04terr||nothing is working ;]
14:24:12terr||meaby try mail box..??
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14:26:06terr||ipodpatcher.exe, ipod fw.exe, bootloade-nano.bin J need those files ;] can someone send me those..??
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14:26:30apo`terr||: It's I, not J
14:27:45terr||heh I'am from Poland ;]
14:27:50terr||sorry ;]
14:28:06RedBrevaterr||: :D
14:28:47terr||thanks it works ;]
14:28:57RedBrevaOK, I need to go now.... Best of luck ;-)
14:29:00terr||thx and sorry for troubles ;] ;] ;] ;]
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14:48:41*amiconn pings [IDC]Dragon
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14:56:11Jungti1234markun!! :'(
14:57:08[IDC]Dragonhi amiconn
14:58:05[IDC]DragonI was afk most of the time, we got our lawn today, need to work ;-)
15:01:18[IDC]Dragonnext I need to water it alot (sorry for OT)
15:01:40peturyou buy a lawn?
15:02:02[IDC]Dragoncomes in rolls, like carpet
15:02:17peturtsk tsk tsk...
15:03:07peturyou know you can roll the ground flat, throw seeds on it and stuff like that. cheaper too ;)
15:03:08[IDC]Dragontoo decadent?
15:03:24[IDC]Dragonnot much cheaper
15:03:57peturmore work maybe
15:04:37[IDC]Dragonafk again, into the garden
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15:12:44Panda-can someone send me a patched H300 1.29 or the fwpatcher.exe?
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15:28:55SeuZHI all :) where can i download the fwpatcher.exe please? the main link seems to be down ( )
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15:33:40PaulJamthe fwpatcher V6,V5 for iriver can be downloaded here:
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15:36:57SeuZthx PaulJam ;)
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15:37:38SeuZsame for voicesfiles or i must wait that th wiki come back?
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16:05:47Panda-how many hours can the h320 play videos?
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16:06:34ricardo_dawkinshello people.....everything is fine over here !!!
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16:07:39peturPanda-: none when using rockbox ;)
16:09:09peturand no one has managed to stare long enough to the small screen to give you an estimate of video playback under iriver firmware :p
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16:13:03ricardo_dawkinssorry...but any developer can help me ?
16:13:37peturif you tell what's wrong, maybe... ;)
16:15:18ricardo_dawkinscheck my post on the forums
16:15:42ricardo_dawkinsmy iriver H320 can't boot into iriver firmware after installing a Rockbox build
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16:17:26dj-fuyou probably did it wrong
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16:18:15ricardo_dawkinsare you talking to me right ?
16:18:34peturricardo_dawkins: there is an issue with the eeprom getting corrupted sometimes, I get the feeling this may be related, like the iriver firmware crashing on a bad config value.
16:18:41ricardo_dawkinsit was booting quite well with the official build from
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16:19:21ricardo_dawkinsso...if the eeprom is corrupted I have a small hope it can boot again into iriver firmware
16:19:24ricardo_dawkinsright ???
16:19:29peturSlasheri: that reminds me that we should get the eeprom driver in there so we can read/write it
16:20:15peturricardo_dawkins: there is a working driver but not yet in the build. so maybe we could read the eeprom from one device and write it into yours
16:20:52*petur wonders if the iriver firmware doesn't have a safe config reset trick like rockbox has
16:22:32peturanyway, gtg now
16:22:32ricardo_dawkinsso the driver is in beta. Do you have any estimate when it will be ready ? petur
16:23:19ricardo_dawkinsanyone beyond me and Mac Dog with the same problem ?
16:23:26peturdon't know, I think Slasheri wrote it. I'll ask him when he's online
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16:23:46amiconnpetur: Slasheri's driver probably won't work on H300 without modification
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16:30:03ricardo_dawkinsare you sure, ami ?
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16:36:22Panda- I just patched my 1.29K firmware with fwpatcher.exe
16:36:33Panda-and when I turn it on
16:36:40Panda-it shuts down
16:36:54Panda-giving Result : -1 (whatever that means)
16:37:14Panda-what's the problem??
16:38:24Panda-nevermind it loads rockbox now... but it says that the .rockbox directory is not found .... but I DO have .rockbox and rockbox.iriver in my root folder
16:38:41ricardo_dawkinsmaybe you need to place the .rockbox folder on the root drive for your player
16:39:02ricardo_dawkinswhat player is that ?
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16:39:26Bg3rhow did you detached it ?
16:39:39Bg3rdid you use the "safely remove hardware" thing?
16:41:12ricardo_dawkinsmy iriver H320 can't boot into iriver firmware after installing a Rockbox build
16:41:36ricardo_dawkinspetur told me that the eeprom could be corrupted, is he right ?
16:43:03Panda-Bg3r; yeah I did
16:43:12Panda-copied h300.hex (patched)
16:43:15Panda-safe removed
16:43:18Panda-upgrade firmware
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16:43:30Panda-copy .rockbox and rockbox.iriver
16:43:40Panda-and I get .rockbox directory not found
16:43:41Bg3rthen check your player's HDD for errors
16:43:47Panda-how do I do that
16:43:57ricardo_dawkinsscandisk in windows
16:44:21ricardo_dawkinsright click the H300 properties
16:44:33Panda-what if theres no error?
16:45:03ricardo_dawkinsclick on the "Tools" tab...and select to Scan for errors
16:45:56ricardo_dawkinsI dont know if you what to do is theres no error. Mine can't boot into iriver firmware even after I ran a scan on it.
16:46:39sheppardwhere do i locate bootloader-video.bin
16:47:20Bg3rricardo_dawkins what happens when you try /
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16:47:48ricardo_dawkinsBg3r: it freezes on the LOADING screen. 1.29K firmware.
16:48:14Bg3rno bad sectors on the hard disk ?
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16:48:23Bg3rany strange sounds ?
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16:49:02Panda-I hear it spin when the player starts up
16:49:03Panda-that's all
16:50:17Bg3rand sits there forever ?
16:50:32Panda-on rockbox?
16:50:43Panda-says .rockbox not found then says installation incomplete
16:50:52Panda-and sits there forever.
16:50:52ricardo_dawkinsbg3r: no bad sector
16:51:13ricardo_dawkinsbg3r: ran scandisk and formatted the drive twice
16:51:31ricardo_dawkinsbg3r: still freezin on the loading screen. 1.29K
16:51:40Bg3rjust to suggest reflashing ...
16:51:58Bg3rand i remembered that u can't do it without booting the iriver fw :(
16:53:01ricardo_dawkinspetur was suggesting to use the driver for reflashing the eeprom from Slasheri
16:53:08ricardo_dawkinsbg3r: are you a developer ?
16:53:34Bg3rso-so :)
16:53:40ricardo_dawkinsRockbox is fine....nice media player, WPS support and FM presets...but I need video back
16:53:51ricardo_dawkinsthat's why I upgrade to 1.29K
16:54:23Panda-can you view pics while listenin to music with RB?
16:54:27Bg3rricardo_dawkins i suggest u to test this eeprom driver
16:54:38Bg3rPanda- yes, u can, but it depends on the picture size
16:54:58Bg3rthat is, on the .jpg plus uncompressed picture size
16:55:30ricardo_dawkinsbg3r: what eeprom driver ? where is it ? I need to compile it ?
16:55:43ricardo_dawkinswill it brick my H320 ?
16:55:53Bg3ri think u must talk with amiconn and Slasheri
16:56:09Bg3rSlasheri wrote one for h100...
16:56:20Bg3rbut amiconn said that it needs editing for h300
16:56:44sheppardso anyone know where i can grab bootloader-video.bin for the ipod video?
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16:58:22Panda-Bg3r; any idea what's wrong with my player?
16:59:25ricardo_dawkinsthanks bg3r
17:00:00Bg3rPanda- did you check your player for hdd errors ?
17:00:18Bg3rtry unzipping the to the root directory of the player again
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17:01:34Panda-how long does scandisk take?
17:01:43Panda-it's been on "phase 2" for a few minutes now
17:02:38ricardo_dawkinsa good while
17:02:50ricardo_dawkinssomething like 1 hour or more
17:02:58ricardo_dawkinsdepends on your USB speed
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17:05:05Panda-Oh no!!!! 1.1 speed :{{{{{{{{{
17:05:31Bg3rPanda- connect your player to the charger ...
17:05:48Panda-I dont have one
17:06:21Panda-I bought it on a forum, and the guy forgot to put in the box... it's being shipped now
17:07:19ricardo_dawkinshow did you upgrade firmware w/o charger ?
17:07:46ricardo_dawkinsyou were asking for trouble doing you charge by USB ?
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17:08:47Panda-ya i fully charged it before updating firmware
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17:11:11Panda-can you cancel the scandisk.. I have to leave for work soon and I want to bring the player :\
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17:11:59Bg3rcancel it
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17:12:19Bg3ror the battery will go empty soon...
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17:12:53Panda-how? the cancel button is greyed out
17:14:52ricardo_dawkins? 8-|
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17:15:56*leftright finds the closest large object and gives S0ap a slap with it
17:16:26leftrightheh, sorry SOap, just checking features in Hydra
17:17:04Panda- <−−- ricardo_dawkins
17:17:09slomo17hi there. does someone know when the rockbox wiki will be back?
17:18:08ricardo_dawkinsclick on the "x" top right
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17:19:50Panda-doesnt work
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17:33:29frando'No twiki yet' - are the bootloader binaries for ipod 4th gen available in some other way?
17:33:33frandoftp? cvs?
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17:40:36slomo17also wondering if the x5_fw.bin is avaliable in some way... would really appreciate! thx
17:41:23Mikachuis this it?
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17:43:03frandono, that's the original firmware, think slomo's talking about rockbox ;)
17:43:19frandoyes, would be just fantastic if someone could upload the .bin's .. should be 2 seconds ;)
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17:43:50Mikachuyou might still be able to read the pages in google cache
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17:44:15slomo17got my x5 today and i'm really bored with it's ugly interface:(
17:45:14frandobut google does only cache text/html files
17:45:26frandowe're lookin for the binary (rockbox firmware) files
17:45:40Mikachuhave you tried googling the filename?
17:45:46frandoalso filemirrors
17:45:47ricardo_dawkinsany other solutions for this:
17:46:18frandosomeone who has the files could easily upload them to some webserver, ftp or just add them to the rockbox cvs.
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17:46:39frandounfortunately, i don't have the files, otherwise i'd upload them ;)
17:47:08*amiconn pings [IDC]Dragon again
17:48:02Panda-slomo17; you dont like the x5?
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17:49:23slomo17off course i like it - at leats til now:) but not it's 'screen design'
17:51:12slomo17the rockbox is ways more esthetic
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17:52:29slomo17Mikachu: it's little bit hard to google cause the original firmware has the same name...
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17:55:46frando... googling won't help you guys ;) we either gotta wait with installing until twiki is running again or until some cool guy uploads the bins ;)
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18:01:42slomo17ok - found solution at least for the x5:) nice guy has stored it on a website:
18:02:06stillunknownanyone here have an ipod nano?
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18:02:47stillunknowndoes the nano suffer from severe bass rolloff?
18:03:03Mikachunot that i know
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18:03:42stillunknowncan it drive high impedance headphones?
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18:05:01Mikachuno idea there
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18:05:48DeathWo1fhello all^^ what would i lose for an ipod 5th generation when installing rockbox, other than the drm playing(which doesnt matter since i only put my cd's rips)
18:06:07chiliraptorhey, i know the wiki is down but is there a place i can go to download nano themes?
18:06:13stillunknownbattery time is less
18:06:40stillunknownmaybe issues with apple should the player break down with rockbox installed, nut i'm not sure about that
18:06:49DeathWo1fhow much less?
18:07:02DeathWo1fand can i finally use it as a mass storing device to copy music?
18:07:06DeathWo1f(god that itunes is aweful)
18:07:12*stillunknown doesn't have a portable player, i just know it's less, because rockbox is not so optimised yet
18:07:22stillunknownit should become a mass storage device
18:07:41DeathWo1fwhat about video playing, does that still work?
18:08:21chiliraptorcool thanks
18:08:22DeathWo1fi see...
18:08:32stillunknownabout battery time, at worst i'd expect half the time
18:08:34DeathWo1fthe new supported audio formats are real tempting though:)
18:08:48stillunknownexpect that to improve though
18:09:22stillunknownnot to mention gapless playback
18:09:43DeathWo1fthe original firmware doesnt allow gapless?
18:11:37chiliraptorwhat exactly is this gapless playback
18:11:42stillunknownno, but if you haven't heard it yet, then you are probably not bothered by it
18:11:53stillunknownplayback with gaps between tracks
18:11:58DeathWo1fi'm pretty much addicted to gapless:)
18:12:01DeathWo1fthanks to foobar
18:12:21stillunknowni thought you had an ipod?
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18:13:23chiliraptordoes anyone know how much room that doom pod thing takes up
18:13:29chiliraptoror if the gameboy thing is any good
18:13:43Mikachudoom takes up as much space as the wad file
18:13:49Mikachuso about 10MB
18:15:06stillunknownDeathWo1f: if you have a ipod, you should have noticed it doesn't do gaplless
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18:16:18DeathWo1fi just got it:)
18:16:21DeathWo1fhavent played a single thing yet^^
18:16:26CYPER^hello everybody - I need some help :)
18:16:35DeathWo1fi'm the kind to change firmware just after receiving hardware:)
18:16:49CYPER^Where can i Download that from:
18:17:05CYPER^I want to put rockbox on my video ipod :)
18:17:09Mikachuyou come at a bad time, the site is partially down right now
18:17:11CYPER^but some files are just missing
18:17:33CYPER^so can't download them from anywhere else?
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18:20:52chiliraptori installed rockbox on my nano for the firs time yesterday when the whole site was donw
18:20:55chiliraptori just used the daily build
18:21:08chiliraptorand i looked on google and found the other files
18:21:12CYPER^yes, but I can only download the builds
18:21:16CYPER^not the loader
18:21:35chiliraptorwhat i did was i looked for an unofficial installer but i didn't use it
18:21:42chiliraptori just took the files from the package
18:21:48chiliraptorcus it had all the other stuff
18:21:54CYPER^I'll better wait :)'s the guy who was hit by the lightning while listening to his iPod. See his burned ears!
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18:26:08chiliraptorwhen installing a theme, do you just put all the folder from the zip into the equivilent folder in .rockbox?
18:26:16sheppardso could someone here send me bootloader-video.bin since its no longer on the website and i dont have a cross compiler setup?
18:27:48*sheppard tips his hat to stillunknown
18:28:07ryranyou're wearing a hat? :P
18:28:21sheppardactually i'm not wearing anything..
18:28:31ryranthanks for that
18:29:55stillunknowni just copied the link someone else pasted a little while aho
18:31:30chiliraptorwhere do i put the fonts from the themes i download, i can't find a font folder?
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18:32:31ryrancreate one. or better yet, download the font pack from the daily builds page
18:32:57chiliraptorok, and do i just put the folder in the .rockbox folder?
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18:33:29chiliraptorthank you
18:35:27leftrightcould someone type my nick please
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19:24:03AlextremoBuenas !!!
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19:30:54CYPER^Question: Does rockbox support video files by default?
19:31:04CYPER^I'm talking about the video ipod
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19:33:59leftrightiirc rockbox only supports video on some archos targets
19:34:22CYPER^no video support for ipod vide :(
19:35:05CYPER^is there a request?
19:35:20CYPER^do they think to make it work with video
19:35:35leftrightseveral, but its doubtfull video will happen
19:36:36CYPER^ok 10x :)
19:37:45CYPER^is the themes section down?
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19:38:13leftrightthere are problerms with the twiki, they're working on it
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19:38:38CYPER^yeah I know, I just wasn't sure if the themes are in the wiki :)
19:39:17leftrightmisticriver has a whole thread dedicated to themes
19:39:27CYPER^can i get a link?
19:39:29CYPER^10x :)
19:39:49CYPER^I need for 5G ipod
19:40:01CYPER^I guess mysticriver is site for iRiver
19:40:02sheppardyeah the default themes for the ipod video are pretty weak
19:40:04sheppardand dont look right
19:40:57leftrightso edit them
19:41:45CYPER^don't know how :)
19:41:59CYPER^just put the rockbox and it looks really ugly
19:42:01CYPER^small font
19:42:09CYPER^not graphics really
19:42:11CYPER^just text
19:42:47leftrighti think there are other themes preloaded under themes,
19:43:30CYPER^i saw them :)
19:43:39CYPER^now I am in the picture browser
19:43:45CYPER^and don't know how to get out
19:43:48CYPER^to go to the menu
19:44:08leftrightdont owm a pod, cant help you there
19:44:17CYPER^found how :)
19:44:55leftrightthere is also a manual you can download on the dailies page
19:45:12CYPER^I got it :)
19:45:20CYPER^I just need thems :)
19:45:37CYPER^and why is that the theme works only for thr playback screen
19:45:42CYPER^not for the menus :(
19:46:17*amiconn points to
19:46:52*CYPER^ sends greetings to amiconn
19:46:57CYPER^wow :D
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19:55:22sheppardok heres a million dollar question
19:55:31sheppardis it possible to not have the sound dissipear while you're fastforwarding?
19:56:18sheppardlike have it either keep playing what its playing while you seek, or keep playing as you ff at a reduced volume kinda like winamp does
19:56:34Bagderno its not possible
19:57:03sheppardah thats a shame
19:57:27Bagderfeel free to work on that
19:57:51*sheppard puts that on his very, very, very, long to do list
19:58:00Bagderwe all have those todo lists
20:00:38Mikachuit happens sometimes on accident, so it shouldn't be too hard :)
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20:05:16sheppardif the guy who did the crossbones theme for the ipod video is in here, you rule
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20:21:04Marianodoes anyone know where I can read some kind of manual on how to install rockbox on my iriver H120?
20:24:33MarianoI would appriciate any help: link, anything.
20:24:34Bagderdoesn't the h120 manual?
20:24:51Bagderthe wiki use to contain that info, but that is down atm
20:25:20Marianoso, its best to wait for the wiki?
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20:25:57Bagderif the manual doesn't have it, then I guess waiting is the option unless someone around here or in the forums guide you
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20:27:04MarianoI did not see it on the manual, so I guess I have to wait around
20:27:09Marianocool, thanks :)
20:27:33sheppardany eta on the website?
20:28:05Bagdera few days or so
20:28:20Marianowell, I went on the wiki link and it is broken
20:28:36BagderI told you
20:29:04MarianoI thought the eta thing was for me
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20:30:13leftrighterr wont google have some cached stuff
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20:31:58leftrightMariano ^
20:33:09leftrightpretty much all intact in googles cache
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20:34:09RedBrevaI just did the same thing to reload my Nano... only problem is if you need to download any files etc. the links don't work...
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21:42:30x1jmphas someone thought about adding a LADSPA host to rockbox?
21:44:35x1jmp"The Linux Audio Developer's Simple Plugin API"
21:45:00x1jmpthere are a lot of audio plugins for the ladspa architecture
21:45:56x1jmpyou can have a look at
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21:57:28ricardo_dawkinswhy the silence ?
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22:47:49theprodukkthi all
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22:49:45theprodukktwhat do u think about house music
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22:50:57XavierGrehmmm I am not sure what exactly house music is....
22:51:40theprodukktdont exactly know hot to explain
22:51:49theprodukkti dont know it very well :)
22:51:53theprodukktjust one song
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22:52:04theprodukkti'd say its a bit like techno
22:52:16dejaperducan anyone please send me the fwpatcher.exe ?
22:52:22dejaperdufor rockbox
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22:57:00dionoeadejaperdu: isn't that available on the website ?
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23:00:35amiconndionoea: The wiki is still down, hence no fwpatcher
23:01:30dionoeaoh ... what happened ?
23:01:48amiconnCheck the news section
23:02:04amiconn...and the irc log from wednesday
23:02:12dionoeawas the breakin due to twiki ?
23:02:20pixelmadionoea: look at the topic ;)
23:02:31dionoeawell you should use media wiki :)
23:02:39dionoeawe've never had any problems with it
23:02:41Bagderblah I say
23:03:01Bagderand yes it has had problems
23:03:17dejaperducan anyone dcc me fwpatcher.exe?
23:03:37RedBreva may help
23:04:01S0apis fwpatcher.exe device specific?
23:04:22RedBrevaIt's fwpatcher and ipod_fw + the nano bootloader, dont ahve any other bootloaders atm...
23:04:28amiconnfwpatcher is for irivers only iirc
23:04:45RedBrevaSorry - ipodpatcher
23:04:55dejaperdusomone else sent me one
23:05:54S0apHas there ever been any discussion of splitting the channel into
23:06:02S0ap#rockbox-dev and
23:06:22S0ap#rockbox-help or #rockbox-chat?
23:06:45dionoeaso you'd dump #rockbox ? :D
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23:07:06BagderS0ap: we haven't felt the need for that yet
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23:09:52Mikachuthat usually doesn't work
23:10:53*amiconn is reading the rockbox website on his mobile phone, using opera mini
23:14:58dejaperduwhat doe sthe voice options do?
23:15:04dejaperduthis is my first time installing rockbox
23:19:01Bagderdejaperdu: they are for speaking the menus
23:19:10Bagderand possibly dir names etc
23:20:54dejaperduooh i see
23:21:05dejaperduis it just me or does rockbox make your iriver hotter?
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23:22:11S0apI'll say! I saw this H340 sitting at the end of the bar with a smokin' rockbox, and I bought her a drink.
23:23:19S0apI'm not very familiar with the irivers, but if the battery life isn't as long with rockbox as it is with stock...then the extra energy consumption would = extra heat.
23:23:39dejaperduooh ya
23:23:50dejaperduis it a known fact that they battery life is shorter?
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23:23:59Bagderrockbox runs *longer*
23:24:03Bagderthan the original firmware
23:24:34Bagder(on irivers)
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23:25:52S0apif the battery life is longer, then it is hard to believe it runs hotter.
23:26:04BagderI agree
23:26:16Bagderit seems very hard to explain
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23:34:19ricardo_dawkinsany developer here ?
23:34:26dejaperduwell as long as it doenst hurt my iriver i dont care about the extra heat
23:34:27ricardo_dawkinsricardo says hi...! :D
23:34:40ricardo_dawkinsheat hurts the battery...
23:35:15dejaperduits not much
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23:36:07Bagderdejaperdu: what target?
23:36:51dejaperdutarget? ...i have an h320 iriver
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23:37:22Bagderand how do you know it is warmer now?
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23:38:06dejaperdui dont, im just kinda paranoid so any slight increase in tmeptuer worries me
23:38:22dejaperdudont worry im sure its not gonna be a problem sorry for bringing it up
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23:38:35Genre9mp3AFAIK the CPU is slightly cooler with rockbox than in original fw
23:38:37dejaperdubesides i live in bakersfiled its over 100 degrees out side ahha
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23:39:22dejaperduya it sucks
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