| 00:00:05 | Bagder | yes? |
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| 00:03:30 | lamed | well, sir, can I proceed to the interlocution procedure of the appointed tracker? |
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| 00:04:14 | lamed | bagder, it's a pain trying getting patches in the source! |
| 00:04:34 | lamed | what do I have to do to get some cvs access? who should I sleep with? |
| 00:04:52 | ^icewind^ | erm... |
| 00:05:21 | ^icewind^ | is the command for extracting the firmware from the ipod and extracting the apple firmware form the output file the same? |
| 00:05:45 | Bagder | lamed: to get CVS access you ask nicely or get asked, and you have a proven track-record of nice work |
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| 00:08:24 | lamed | yes, yeah, I know that sir... it just that I _am_ having a higher and higher amount of good patches laying around the tracker, but don't take me seriously, it was a joke. I was asking whether you think it appropriate. just thinking about getting the screen scroll patch in gives me a headache... my custom virtual keyboard patch will be up s00n... |
| 00:08:56 | Bagder | well, we all do our best |
| 00:09:13 | Bagder | we don't make things hard on purpose |
| 00:10:09 | lamed | It's hard being cynic when you have to use babylon for translating 'cynic'... sorry for that. |
| 00:11:00 | XavierGr | haha, what? we can ask for CVS access? LOL |
| 00:11:14 | Bagder | everyone always could |
| 00:11:56 | sharpe | i'm just not going to ask. :D |
| 00:12:19 | XavierGr | I thought it was a gift granted by the gods. :P |
| 00:12:21 | linuxstb | ^icewind^: No - ipodpatcher.exe reads/writes the firmware partition from/to your ipod. ipod_fw.exe manipulates the firmware files stored on your computer's hard drive. |
| 00:12:40 | S0ap | you mean commit access, don't you? Is there not anon download access? |
| 00:12:44 | lamed | :) question: how do I reload samba on vmware? sometimes It's not showing properly after reloading to previous state. |
| 00:12:45 | ^icewind^ | erm... oookay... :) |
| 00:12:52 | ^icewind^ | i'm using this http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipod4gray-20060709.pdf |
| 00:12:59 | sharpe | S0ap: there is anonymous download access... |
| 00:13:01 | XavierGr | lamed: I have the same problem |
| 00:13:04 | ^icewind^ | and i'm at step 3/4 |
| 00:13:30 | lamed | xaviergr: sure you do. you're using winxp like me. |
| 00:13:35 | linuxstb | lamed: Probably something like /etc/init.d/samba restart |
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| 00:14:14 | XavierGr | linuxstb: I think I've tried that to no avail |
| 00:14:32 | linuxstb | Then it's probably the Windows part messing up. |
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| 00:15:19 | lamed | xaviergr: I'm getting 'command not found', if you're getting the same output, it's just some other command to invoke it. |
| 00:15:52 | XavierGr | I thin the command is smb restart? |
| 00:15:56 | XavierGr | but I am not sure' |
| 00:16:05 | XavierGr | I tried to solve it months ago |
| 00:16:09 | XavierGr | restarting samba |
| 00:16:11 | ^icewind^ | hell... this is too complicated for me at this time... isn't there a windows installer available for installing rockbox on an ipod (4g, greyscale) |
| 00:16:15 | XavierGr | but that didn't help |
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| 00:17:18 | lamed | i've read man samba but to no avail |
| 00:17:45 | linuxstb | ^icewind^: There are a few unofficial installers floating about (try searching the forums), but I've no idea how well they work. There is no official "point and click" ipod installer at the moment. |
| 00:18:03 | XavierGr | lamed: maybe windows has something to do with it |
| 00:18:05 | amiconn|wa | Test via wap |
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| 00:18:18 | sharpe | i've started on one a few times, but i just get distracted too quickly. :-D |
| 00:18:24 | XavierGr | if I restart the whole virtual machine the problem is solved |
| 00:18:26 | ^icewind^ | okay, so i have to do that with my own hands, no problem, but i don't know the right commands |
| 00:19:32 | ^icewind^ | the tutorial gives me the command "ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin" for extracting the firmware partition from the ipod AND for extracting the firmware from the output file |
| 00:20:10 | ^icewind^ | and now i'm want to perform step 4 |
| 00:20:29 | linuxstb | ^icewind^: Yes, that's a typo in the (still draft) manual. Just a moment... |
| 00:20:38 | ^icewind^ | k :) |
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| 00:21:18 | linuxstb | Try here: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:5CG0O18iEMMJ:www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation+ipod+installation+rockbox&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox |
| 00:21:32 | linuxstb | (that's google's cache of the installation instructions on the wiki) |
| 00:21:39 | sharpe | hooray google |
| 00:21:45 | ^icewind^ | yeah |
| 00:22:23 | ^icewind^ | i allways using the google cache, if someone asks me, hof to find a site, that isn't longer available... and if i need it by myself, im to stupid :) |
| 00:22:24 | ^icewind^ | thanks |
| 00:25:05 | ^icewind^ | yeah, it works... |
| 00:25:17 | ^icewind^ | it tried to boot |
| 00:25:23 | ^icewind^ | "rockbox eror -1" |
| 00:25:33 | sharpe | that's good. |
| 00:25:37 | ^icewind^ | is this, because of i forgot to copy the rockbox-files to the ipod? |
| 00:25:41 | sharpe | yes, |
| 00:25:46 | ^icewind^ | ;) |
| 00:25:49 | ^icewind^ | k... my fault |
| 00:28:49 | ^icewind^ | hrm, how to reboot this piece of hardware..? |
| 00:29:42 | sharpe | hold menu and select... |
| 00:30:50 | ^icewind^ | okay |
| 00:31:03 | ^icewind^ | i ounly fund menu+play |
| 00:31:05 | ^icewind^ | works |
| 00:31:10 | ^icewind^ | rockbox runs :) |
| 00:31:41 | ^icewind^ | awesome.. |
| 00:32:48 | ^icewind^ | thanks to all for your support, now i play a bit with my "new" player :) |
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| 00:47:42 | lamed | (gdb) i can't place a working watchpoint. say i want to stop when (int)i changes. i go awatch i , when I'm in the right context, but it just skips I and don't stop. ? |
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| 03:11:24 | * | lamed is proud to announce: my latest work, over: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5641 |
| 03:12:11 | lamed | have a look, have a banana, both are sWeeT |
| 03:13:15 | midkay | but one is not nearly as sweet as the other. |
| 03:13:27 | midkay | in fact even something that's the most sour in the world has a bit of sweet in some way. |
| 03:13:34 | midkay | so your patch is probably the worst thing on the face of the earth. |
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| 03:24:42 | lamed | heheheh.... well, maybe it's not that funny, it's 4 am here :) |
| 03:24:53 | midkay | :( |
| 03:24:59 | lamed | spoon sounds funny |
| 03:25:24 | * | lamed spoon |
| 03:25:53 | midkay | haha. |
| 03:26:02 | midkay | quasi-amusing. |
| 03:26:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Spoon? |
| 03:26:19 | midkay | the word. |
| 03:26:20 | midkay | spoon. yes. |
| 03:26:37 | lamed | lol |
| 03:27:04 | lamed | paul, are you _ever_ away?! |
| 03:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dude, I've been gone for a day and a half. |
| 03:27:35 | ze | midkay: sweet and sour are seperate tastes, something could be a lot of both |
| 03:27:45 | lamed | ah. that's explains it! |
| 03:27:46 | ze | midkay: but thre's plenty of things with 0 sweetness |
| 03:27:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was all vacationy and without computers and stuff. Sorta. I checked on the forums at night. |
| 03:27:56 | midkay | ze, well, there must be the tiniest bit of sweet in something extremely sour. |
| 03:28:08 | ze | midkay: why? |
| 03:28:17 | midkay | ze: why not? |
| 03:28:26 | ze | because it doesn't activate the sweet receptors? |
| 03:28:27 | ze | heh |
| 03:28:33 | midkay | it does slightly!! |
| 03:28:41 | midkay | maybe hardly noticeably, but it does! |
| 03:28:53 | ze | why would it? if it doesn't fit |
| 03:29:00 | midkay | in any case the point was that the patch may be sweet but it could be very very slightly sweet and mostly sour. |
| 03:29:00 | ze | it fits the sour receptors |
| 03:29:02 | lamed | paul_the_nerd: haha, funny, i did the same when I went to a vacation in turkey! |
| 03:29:44 | * | lamed claims da pAtch iz all gooD. yeaH. |
| 03:30:21 | midkay | no. no. |
| 03:30:40 | lamed | anyways, i was just trying to get all of your attention to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5641. |
| 03:30:44 | lamed | so now you know it. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5641 |
| 03:30:54 | ze | midkay: write a fake response to the atapi MODE SENSE (10) command querying the cd/dvd capabilities and mechanical status page |
| 03:31:06 | midkay | .. yeah. |
| 03:31:28 | ze | or don't |
| 03:31:30 | ze | but hey |
| 03:31:39 | ze | midkay: i have 3 values under 75 |
| 03:31:48 | ze | midkay: and i need to pack them into an int |
| 03:31:48 | lamed | that was the most technically un-coherent sentence I've ever read in my life! (ze) |
| 03:32:02 | ze | like byte 0 is 0, byte 1 is one value, byte 2 is another value, and byte 3 is the last |
| 03:32:21 | midkay | ze: where are you going with this? |
| 03:32:21 | ze | how do i pack single-byte values into an int? |
| 03:32:31 | midkay | you're asking ME?! |
| 03:33:07 | ze | int smsf; |
| 03:33:07 | ze | char gar[4]; |
| 03:33:07 | ze | gar[0]=0; |
| 03:33:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK ze |
| 03:33:07 | ze | gar[1]=packet[3]; |
| 03:33:07 | ze | gar[2]=packet[4]; |
| 03:33:09 | ze | gar[3]=packet[5]; |
| 03:33:12 | ze | memcpy(&smsf,gar,4); |
| 03:33:15 | ze | thats what i've got, but i dunno if it works right.. hard to tell |
| 03:33:29 | midkay | .. |
| 03:33:32 | midkay | so, try it. |
| 03:33:51 | ze | heh |
| 03:34:02 | midkay | what's stopping you? |
| 03:34:07 | ze | i suppose i can put it into a dummy prog to test it... blah |
| 03:34:11 | HCl | just use a union structure |
| 03:34:25 | midkay | yes, you can. |
| 03:34:28 | HCl | union { int i; unsigned char b[4]; } b; |
| 03:34:35 | HCl | b.i=0xfffffff; |
| 03:34:38 | HCl | then read out b.b |
| 03:35:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Woo unions! |
| 03:35:35 | HCl | it works the same way the other way around |
| 03:35:43 | HCl | b.b[0] up till b.b[3] |
| 03:35:45 | HCl | then read out b.i |
| 03:36:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | And to think my computer science teacher said unions were useless in modern computers. ;) |
| 03:36:32 | HCl | nonsense. |
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| 03:38:30 | HCl | normally you don't use them much, but in situations where you need data in several different forms, they're ideal |
| 03:38:55 | ze | interesting... |
| 03:38:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, I think he's locked into the "use them to conserve memory" thought process. |
| 03:39:07 | ze | so in this case, the memory of the int and the char array are the same? |
| 03:39:28 | HCl | yup |
| 03:39:38 | HCl | to both of you :p |
| 03:39:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 03:39:42 | ze | heh |
| 03:39:43 | ze | neat |
| 03:43:32 | ze | HCl: thanks |
| 03:43:34 | ze | that was easy |
| 03:43:34 | ze | heh |
| 03:43:38 | HCl | np :p |
| 03:48:15 | HCl | night |
| 03:48:26 | ze | night |
| 03:49:44 | lamed | gnight, cya all |
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| 03:50:43 | earHertz | HCl: um, that union business is undefined according to the C standard; it's definitely NOT portable |
| 03:52:15 | HCl | meh, just use int i; unsigned char *b=(char *)&i; then |
| 03:52:18 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:52:18 | * | HCl sleeps |
| 03:52:25 | ze | heh |
| 03:53:01 | earHertz | among otherthings, it depends on the endian-ness of the platform |
| 03:53:10 | HCl | yes |
| 03:53:28 | * | earHertz has been dealing with endian issues |
| 03:53:40 | HCl | but ze was setting it byte by byte anyways, I figured he'd know about endianness. |
| 03:53:43 | HCl | anyways |
| 03:53:44 | HCl | afk |
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| 04:06:26 | wehn | Just dicovered accidently that the Pitch screen does not show on iriver remotes, and can't be exited from the remote. :( |
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| 04:50:09 | psycho_maniac | hello i have found a bug in rockbox on the h120. (i just updatd to cvs build). play a song and while its playing click and hold the joystick. then go to pitch. then press towards the left or right. it goes to 90% pitch or 110% pitch but then goes back to 100% right away |
| 04:50:29 | midkay | that's not a bug. it's intentional. |
| 04:50:53 | midkay | up and down is for adjustment, left and right is for the few people who really want that quick adjust.. |
| 04:51:10 | psycho_maniac | but it dosnt change when you go from left to right |
| 04:52:19 | sharpe | midkay! |
| 04:52:32 | * | midkay sighs heavily in an exaggerated way |
| 04:52:35 | midkay | sharpe!!!!! |
| 04:52:41 | midkay | psycho_maniac, yes, that is *intentional* |
| 04:52:42 | sharpe | hah. i'm home. |
| 04:53:35 | midkay | hah. |
| 04:53:40 | midkay | wb. |
| 04:53:48 | sharpe | five days of being away. |
| 04:54:04 | psycho_maniac | ok why is it intentional to not change when going from left or right? shouldnt it change ? on mine it goes to 98% down then when i let go it goes back to 100%. shouldnt it stay at 98%? |
| 04:54:26 | sharpe | psycho_maniac: i believe it is. |
| 04:54:59 | midkay | psycho_maniac, third time: no, it should not. |
| 04:55:07 | midkay | it is entirely intentional and working the way it's intended to. |
| 04:55:11 | midkay | use up and down to change pitch. |
| 04:55:20 | psycho_maniac | then what is left and right for? |
| 04:55:24 | midkay | left and right is a temporary +/- 2% adjustment. |
| 04:55:46 | midkay | if it's not of use to you, just ignore it.. people who "beatmatch" use it. |
| 04:56:06 | psycho_maniac | but the % does not change when going from left to rght |
| 04:56:32 | midkay | and? your point? |
| 04:56:51 | psycho_maniac | ok nevermind |
| 04:57:13 | midkay | right. |
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| 05:24:46 | scorche | sharpe: if only it was longer =P |
| 05:25:27 | sharpe | scorche: thanks, i love you too. |
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| 05:29:22 | zz5 | where can i get fwpatcher for iriver? |
| 05:29:38 | * | Paul_The_Nerd points at the channel topic. |
| 05:29:42 | scorche | zz5: see the yopic |
| 05:29:51 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: it was nice when you were gone >_> |
| 05:29:54 | scorche | =P |
| 05:30:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
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| 05:31:39 | * | qwm scorches scorche |
| 05:31:45 | scorche | >_> |
| 05:31:49 | qwm | >_< |
| 05:31:54 | scorche | <_< |
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| 05:51:06 | sharpe | i don't see how a person's eyes could ever be in that position. |
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| 05:57:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Someone told me I need to work on my social skills if we ever need to take this site any further! |
| 05:57:22 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does the "I am too aggressively defensive of Rockbox" dance. |
| 05:58:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seriously, as soon as he talked about Recording and FM Radio being absent from Rockbox, how was I supposed to know that he was only comparing his existing player to the 5G on Rockbox? |
| 05:58:21 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has never heard of a software-only implementation of Radio without at least some minimal receiving hardware. |
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| 06:00:19 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:00:29 | Mikachu | you can use a crt screen as an am transmitter with only software, but i don't think you can make an fm receiver of an mp3 player |
| 06:00:31 | sharpe | Paul, you better follow their advice, lest ye offend the consumers! |
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| 06:03:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a good thing we don't have a physical location. If I had to deal with human customers, I'd have a hard time not chasing a few of them off with a wiffle bat. But fortunately, this fellow's pretty decent in the end. :) |
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| 06:05:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, I can do "overly bland statements that keep everyone happy" when I'm being paid, but if I'm not, I'm probably gonna stick to the "be helpful, but speak my mind whenever it suits me" philosophy I'm following at the moment. |
| 06:15:05 | sharpe | if we did have a physical store/whatever, i wonder what i would do... |
| 06:15:38 | scorche | be the store mascot? |
| 06:16:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'd be the really grumpy guy at the support desk, clearly |
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| 06:17:09 | scorche | or the all-knowledgeable janitor |
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| 06:18:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ooh, like the genius garbage collector from Dilbert |
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| 06:19:25 | scorche | yup |
| 06:23:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've told my father about Rockbox (I got him to read The Cathedral and the Bazaar) and now he keeps thinking I should figure out some way to make money here. |
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| 06:24:42 | sharpe | open the business-front in a convenient location |
| 06:25:28 | scorche | in otherwords, right next to me |
| 06:25:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | What would a business front do? |
| 06:26:07 | scorche | uh... |
| 06:26:10 | scorche | installations? |
| 06:26:17 | scorche | selling of devices pre-loaded? |
| 06:26:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | I guess, installation on players for people, and support, as well as configuration and setup for blind users. |
| 06:26:20 | * | scorche shrugs |
| 06:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Indeed |
| 06:29:09 | sharpe | and convenient by, the (relatively) same distance to everyone. |
| 06:29:20 | scorche | ew. |
| 06:29:46 | midkay | sharpe, that comma makes no sense there.. |
| 06:29:52 | sharpe | meh. |
| 06:29:54 | midkay | in fact, convenient "by"? |
| 06:30:18 | sharpe | oh well. |
| 06:32:05 | * | Paul_The_Nerd would like to open a retail location right next door to his local Apple store. |
| 06:32:21 | sharpe | that'd be interesting to see. |
| 06:32:22 | scorche | ooo...that would be a really good location here |
| 06:32:38 | scorche | in the most popular mall in the state >_> |
| 06:33:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Put a sign in the window that says "Our iPods support FLAC" and "Our iPods have GAPLESS playback" and so on. |
| 06:33:35 | sharpe | heh... |
| 06:33:43 | scorche | and no one would knwo what that means... |
| 06:33:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm in Austin. |
| 06:34:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are plenty who'd know, though I don't think they'd be shopping near the Apple store. |
| 06:34:09 | scorche | i AM Austin... |
| 06:34:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ewww |
| 06:34:21 | sharpe | would never work for my locale. |
| 06:34:56 | sharpe | that means... paul is in scorche... |
| 06:35:56 | scorche | lets forget about that.. |
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| 06:36:06 | sharpe | we can't. it's in the logs. |
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| 06:39:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hence the ewww. |
| 06:40:47 | sharpe | yepl |
| 06:40:52 | sharpe | without the l. |
| 06:41:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
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| 07:16:19 | apo` | Hm, can I sa[vf]ely delete the battery.dummy file? |
| 07:16:31 | sharpe | apo`: of course. |
| 07:17:02 | apo` | good, thank you :) |
| 07:17:06 | sharpe | anytime. |
| 07:20:13 | apo` | Yay. That makes for a total of yummy 69.9 free megabytes on my iPod. |
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| 07:24:44 | midkay | Though it is often compressed into a single word by analogy with “anywhere†and similar words, “any time†is traditionally a two-word phrase. ... |
| 07:25:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've never typed "anytime" until now. |
| 07:25:15 | * | midkay either, until he googled |
| 07:25:23 | midkay | just had to point that out to SHARPE!!! |
| 07:25:39 | sharpe | thank you. |
| 07:25:47 | sharpe | i can now sleep at night. |
| 07:25:48 | midkay | pas de probleme. |
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| 07:29:27 | apo` | midkay: While you're at it, you could also tell me if it's savely or safely, because I'm too lazy to fire up firefox and I have to go to school in one minute. |
| 07:29:36 | midkay | safely. |
| 07:29:38 | sharpe | safely. |
| 07:29:50 | midkay | nice try, slowy. |
| 07:30:14 | apo` | Hah. I knew it. |
| 07:30:16 | scorche | how would one get savely? |
| 07:30:20 | apo` | And now see you. |
| 07:30:25 | apo` | < Goes off |
| 07:30:52 | scorche | only applies when the f is at the end >_> |
| 07:32:44 | scorche | and when making plural...not an adjective... |
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| 08:50:25 | jhMikeS | test |
| 08:52:04 | jhMikeS | Is this thing on? :) |
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| 08:56:29 | midkay | what kind of shar pei talks?! |
| 08:56:48 | sharpe | a smart one. |
| 08:57:02 | midkay | that goes against the fact that it talks about uninteresting, silly things. |
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| 09:01:56 | jhMikeS | Hello? I don't see any activity, if there is any. I'm trying to get this working. |
| 09:02:32 | sharpe | blink. |
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| 09:03:41 | jhMikeS | Ok...got that. |
| 09:03:49 | sharpe | then it probably works. |
| 09:03:59 | jhMikeS | thanks. :) |
| 09:04:12 | sharpe | that's what we're here for... |
| 09:04:18 | scorche | >_> |
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| 10:20:57 | aliask | I've been having some really weird problems with my H300 lately, just wanted some input on what people think is happening. |
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| 10:22:09 | aliask | I got a new battery from eBay, and it was working fine for about two weeks, but lately the player has been discharging while off to the point where the only way to turn it on is to plug it in. So I chalked that up to the dodgy ebay battery. |
| 10:22:41 | aliask | But now it's not even turning on when the player is charged, and when it does, it loads the iriver firmware, so do people have any opinions? |
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| 11:06:12 | amiconn | ping |
| 11:06:19 | petur | pong |
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| 11:07:50 | midkay | dong |
| 11:07:59 | wehn | ring |
| 11:08:17 | scorche | now that is just....WRONG! |
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| 11:08:36 | midkay | you blew it you stupid-a** b****!!!! :( |
| 11:08:50 | scorche | did not |
| 11:08:55 | scorche | i followed along |
| 11:08:58 | scorche | you ruined it |
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| 11:09:36 | midkay | what a retard. |
| 11:13:23 | petur | bing |
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| 11:20:53 | Nibbler | bing/pong omgwtfbbq |
| 11:21:16 | petur | bbq? |
| 11:21:35 | Nibbler | ingnore that! |
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| 11:31:17 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 11:31:27 | petur | ho |
| 11:31:34 | Jungti1234 | good.. |
| 11:31:35 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 11:32:14 | Jungti1234 | Is it vacation season now? |
| 11:41:50 | FOAD_ | Here it is. |
| 11:42:42 | petur | yes, some devs can only use CPIP (http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt) to connect :) |
| 11:42:51 | FOAD_ | :) |
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| 12:45:42 | Slasheri | now entry removal from tagcache finally works fine :) still fixing other problems now.. |
| 12:47:07 | kerb | ja |
| 12:47:11 | kerb | oops |
| 12:53:33 | XavierGr | Good work Slasheri! |
| 12:53:44 | XavierGr | BTW what happened to your army obligations? |
| 12:53:52 | XavierGr | Still in the army? |
| 12:59:12 | Slasheri | XavierGr: yep, 44 days left :) almost over |
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| 13:00:59 | XavierGr | hehe |
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| 13:01:28 | XavierGr | it was like yesterday when you finished the playback code and announced that you are going for your army obligations |
| 13:02:09 | XavierGr | I was so sad that you were going to be away, but all this time you had plenty of time to be here in the end |
| 13:07:48 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 13:24:52 | shriphani | guys are you all short of patience ? |
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| 13:25:37 | shriphani | cuz the abscence of twikis might lead me to ask instructions for installing rockbox on my ipod in linux |
| 13:25:59 | shriphani | can you help me ? |
| 13:26:27 | petur | shriphani: use google cache to look at the wiki ;) |
| 13:26:36 | shriphani | thanks |
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| 13:30:25 | linuxstb | shriphani: The PDF manual also includes install instructions - http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
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| 14:52:45 | Captain_America | who wants to hear a funny story |
| 14:53:16 | Captain_America | i got an ipod on tuesday night and i left it in the rental van last night |
| 14:53:24 | Captain_America | so now i have nno ipod again |
| 14:54:10 | shriphani | people where can i download the rockbox for linux |
| 14:54:33 | shriphani | i got only the cvs builds but no bootloader so i doubt it will rk |
| 14:54:40 | shriphani | work ^ |
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| 14:56:10 | shriphani | can anyone help me? |
| 14:56:36 | linuxstb | shriphani: Check the channel topic... |
| 14:56:46 | shriphani | checked it |
| 14:56:48 | PaulJam | what do you mean with " rockbox for linux" ? |
| 14:56:57 | shriphani | i mean nstalling it in linux |
| 14:57:06 | shriphani | on my ipod in linux |
| 14:57:24 | linuxstb | shriphani: Check it again - the bootloader is there. |
| 14:57:31 | linuxstb | ^bootloaders |
| 14:57:39 | shriphani | and ipod_fw ? |
| 14:57:41 | Captain_America | hey is it just me, or is there no way to back up in doom |
| 14:58:01 | midkay | on an ipod there is not. |
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| 14:58:06 | midkay | turn around and move 'forward'.. |
| 14:58:24 | Captain_America | i got that |
| 14:58:27 | linuxstb | shriphani: You get that from the link in the manual: |
| 14:58:35 | Captain_America | i was asking if you could move backwards |
| 14:58:44 | shriphani | the link opens up a wierd ebpage |
| 14:58:57 | midkay | Captain_America, as i just said, you cannot. |
| 14:59:47 | Captain_America | yes |
| 14:59:54 | Captain_America | midkayturn around and move 'forward'.. |
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| 15:00:01 | Captain_America | you also said that |
| 15:00:10 | midkay | in addition to "you can't", yes. |
| 15:00:19 | shriphani | linuxstb: seen what the link throws |
| 15:00:19 | Captain_America | well then why did you add that |
| 15:00:22 | midkay | if you don't care for my tip, just read the information that says "you can't" and move along. |
| 15:00:27 | Captain_America | that isn't backwards |
| 15:00:36 | linuxstb | shriphani: Works fine for me. |
| 15:00:43 | shriphani | hmmm |
| 15:00:49 | midkay | if you're asking the question of why can't i move backwards, you really might need to know that.. sorry for the inconvenience. |
| 15:01:47 | shriphani | i still dont see anything but wierd writing |
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| 15:02:41 | linuxstb | shriphani: Try using wget or curl to download it - "wget http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/tools/ipod_fw.c" |
| 15:03:29 | shriphani | i got it |
| 15:03:46 | PaulJam | can't you set the buttons in the main menu of the doomplugin? |
| 15:06:05 | bluebrother | isn't that task pretty much outdated? Or is delete / copy / paste not working on archos? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/96 |
| 15:07:41 | bluebrother | otherwise I'll close it. |
| 15:07:43 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Probably. But there is a useful (IMO) plugin somewhere in the patch tracker that will go through and delete all the clutter Windows and Mac OS (and probably some Linux desktops as well) put on your ipod. |
| 15:08:18 | linuxstb | s/ipod/DAP/ :) |
| 15:08:23 | bluebrother | hmm. The only thing is that I'm unsure if copy / delete works on archos devices. |
| 15:08:59 | linuxstb | Delete definitely works (it's been in Rockbox for a long time). I can't see why the other file operations would be disabled on the Archos devices. |
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| 15:09:34 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I say close it. |
| 15:09:47 | bluebrother | ok. |
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| 15:13:57 | Captain_America | hey anyone wanna have a scavenger hunt |
| 15:14:25 | Captain_America | im looking for a decent dvdrw drve (external and usb) |
| 15:14:35 | Captain_America | i hvae no idea what to get |
| 15:14:51 | Captain_America | so if anyone can find one itll be greatly appreciated |
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| 15:18:16 | Kohlrabi | Any drive by plextor ;) |
| 15:18:37 | Kohlrabi | they cost a tad more |
| 15:18:42 | Kohlrabi | like 20€ or so |
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| 15:21:19 | Captain_America | hmm |
| 15:21:21 | Captain_America | pounds |
| 15:21:30 | Captain_America | so like 60 bucks america? |
| 15:21:32 | Captain_America | n |
| 15:21:41 | Captain_America | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260005095600&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores |
| 15:21:46 | Captain_America | that looks nice |
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| 15:26:01 | Captain_America | anyone? |
| 15:26:04 | Captain_America | any good? |
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| 15:29:04 | * | linuxstb wonders why the source code to Songbird is a 350MB download... |
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| 15:29:22 | * | lou wonders what Songbird might be |
| 15:29:23 | Captain_America | songbird? |
| 15:29:44 | linuxstb | http://www.songbirdnest.com/ |
| 15:30:05 | * | lou is too lazy to click that URL and waits for an explanation by linuxstb instead |
| 15:30:22 | * | linuxstb is too lazy to explain and suggests the website |
| 15:30:25 | crashd | linuxstb: uses the mozilla xul framework |
| 15:30:31 | crashd | so they probably haev to distribute all of it |
| 15:30:37 | crashd | for licensing reasons |
| 15:30:43 | crashd | that's what i'd wager, anyway |
| 15:30:54 | linuxstb | I'll find out in an hour or so... |
| 15:30:58 | crashd | :) |
| 15:31:18 | ricardo_dawkins | good morning all! |
| 15:31:48 | lou | oh |
| 15:31:52 | lou | a music player |
| 15:31:58 | lou | now thats something new |
| 15:33:56 | Captain_America | i still dont get it |
| 15:34:02 | Captain_America | like a replacement for wmp? |
| 15:34:15 | lou | for what? |
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| 15:36:16 | lou | for the record, i consider even my amiga MAS audio player a good replacement for wmp |
| 15:36:19 | lou | ;; |
| 15:38:44 | linuxstb | I agree, I like nice and simple (and tiny) audio players that just play files from the filesystem. But lots of people like the integration between itunes/ipod and maybe Songbird could be the basis for a PC-companion to Rockbox.... There aren't many (any?) cross-platform open source audio players. |
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| 15:39:08 | webguest98 | Hello ! |
| 15:39:09 | linuxstb | So I'm trying to keep an eye on it's development. |
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| 15:39:56 | webguest98 | is anyone here X5 owner tested this patch? : http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5639 |
| 15:40:35 | webguest98 | it seems to increase the battery runtime consderably |
| 15:40:48 | scorche | http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=999772006 |
| 15:40:53 | scorche | wow...apple is so original! |
| 15:40:54 | scorche | ;) |
| 15:41:06 | webguest98 | that cut off usb OTG chip for the X5 |
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| 15:41:25 | webguest98 | err: apple is so *evil* ;) |
| 15:42:14 | scorche | i like how in the article, they announce it as a novel idea and "Crucially, the talking machines could give the iPod a badly-needed new competitive edge in the hotly-contested digital music player market." |
| 15:42:37 | webguest98 | any X5 user? last attempt |
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| 15:43:43 | Captain_America | hmmm |
| 15:43:53 | Captain_America | so is it like itunes |
| 15:43:56 | Captain_America | im so lost |
| 15:44:30 | scorche | Captain_America: songbird? |
| 15:46:07 | Captain_America | yessuh |
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| 15:46:31 | obo | linuxstb: let me know if you get songbird to work - wouldn't compile here on a 64bit debian box |
| 15:46:44 | obo | and it uses flash for audio playback :( |
| 15:47:00 | scorche | here...lemme paraphrase his message for you... |
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| 15:47:43 | lou | flash for playback? |
| 15:47:44 | scorche | ...nice and simple (and tiny) audio player...lots of people like the integration between itunes/ipod...maybe Songbird could be the basis for a PC-companion to Rockbox... |
| 15:48:19 | scorche | just an open source player that *could* end up as a possible compainion to rockbox like itunes is with the ipod |
| 15:48:41 | obo | yeah, at first they tried vlc, then mplayer, then decided to settle on flash (at least on linux) |
| 15:49:27 | crwl | flash for playback, *ON LINUX*? |
| 15:49:44 | crwl | probably even using macromedia's shitty plugin that doesn't even support ALSA? |
| 15:49:47 | idnar | on any Mozilla platform |
| 15:50:01 | obo | crwl: that's the one :( |
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| 15:52:40 | obo | at least that's the way I read this: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=274 (plus bug # 409) |
| 15:52:53 | merbanan | crwl: the new flash player for linux will probably have alsa |
| 15:53:06 | crwl | merbanan, what's that? |
| 15:53:26 | Captain_America | ahhh but itunes works with an ipod that has rockbox so why do we even need songbird |
| 15:53:47 | scorche | because itunes is the debil |
| 15:54:07 | merbanan | crwl: the flash9 plugin is in the works |
| 15:54:10 | scorche | but we dont *need* it anyway...just some people happen to like the integration |
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| 15:55:06 | ravon | oh wow! Kudos to Ulrich for the X5 battery patch. |
| 15:55:57 | crwl | merbanan, ah, ok. that's good, i guess... |
| 15:56:17 | TeaSea | ravon: What does the battery patch do? |
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| 15:57:20 | linuxstb | Captain_America: Rockbox works on more devices than just ipods... itunes also doesn't support most of Rockbox's audio formats (FLAC, vorbis, wavpack etc etc) |
| 15:58:06 | ravon | TeaSea: Disables the USB OTG chip. |
| 15:58:14 | TeaSea | ravon: I see I see. |
| 15:58:18 | TeaSea | And that improves battery life? |
| 15:58:21 | ravon | According to the author it increases the battery lifetime from 15h to 24h |
| 15:58:28 | TeaSea | Crikey. |
| 15:58:34 | ravon | My thought exactly :D |
| 15:58:35 | TeaSea | Considering my battery life is at roughly 2-3 hours at this point. |
| 15:58:38 | TeaSea | This could be good. |
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| 16:00:21 | XavierGr | cool! With VMware mounter and Ext2FSD I can mount the linux virtual machine HD on Windows! |
| 16:00:35 | * | petur gets triggered |
| 16:00:50 | petur | speed? |
| 16:00:52 | linuxstb | obo: I've just downloaded the source, and vlc seems to still be part of it... |
| 16:01:21 | linuxstb | XavierGr: Presumably not at the same time as you're running vmware? |
| 16:01:28 | XavierGr | ehm yes |
| 16:01:30 | XavierGr | let me try |
| 16:01:35 | XavierGr | and start vmware |
| 16:02:08 | bluebrother | petur, I used that driver for quite some time with an external ext3 drive. Worked nice and pretty fast. Unfortunately it has problems with characters other than ascii. |
| 16:02:58 | XavierGr | Hmm I don't have the right to delete a file |
| 16:03:03 | XavierGr | (though I can copy a file) |
| 16:03:21 | linuxstb | So it's read-only in Linux? |
| 16:03:23 | amiconn | XavierGr: Better don't. Two filesystems accessing the same volume at the same time and not knowing about each other is bound to cause problems |
| 16:04:09 | bluebrother | the driver won't recognize the filesystem if it's mounted otherwise. Windows will ask you if you want to format the drive as it doesn't find a valid filesystem |
| 16:04:43 | amiconn | The thing is that windows doesn't know the volume is mounted otherwise |
| 16:04:45 | XavierGr | I was wrong I can delete files |
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| 16:05:03 | XavierGr | well I used a double mount |
| 16:05:16 | obo | linuxstb: I failed to even get it to compile here (64bit issues), I'm just going by their bugzilla on the audio engine thing |
| 16:05:25 | linuxstb | XavierGr: I agree with amiconn - be careful unless vmware mounter tells you explicitly it will work. |
| 16:05:29 | XavierGr | first I installed ext2fd that will make windows recognize linux partitions |
| 16:05:36 | XavierGr | then I used vmware mount |
| 16:05:43 | XavierGr | it works while vmware is offline |
| 16:05:55 | XavierGr | let me just test with vmware on |
| 16:05:59 | XavierGr | nothing to loose really |
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| 16:06:33 | XavierGr | ahahah |
| 16:06:40 | XavierGr | vmware refuses to start |
| 16:06:47 | XavierGr | it says that it can't lock the file |
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| 16:07:51 | XavierGr | too bad |
| 16:08:00 | XavierGr | it seems that vmware won't start |
| 16:08:22 | XavierGr | though with a nice script this would come handy for offline work |
| 16:09:39 | * | linuxstb now has 1.4GB of songbird source code, time to try compiling... |
| 16:11:33 | XavierGr | unmounting the disk from windows enables once again VMware to boot! |
| 16:11:50 | shriphani | can someone please tell me where to find the rockbox bootloader for ipod 5g? |
| 16:12:02 | XavierGr | but what will happen if I try to mount on windows while Vmware is working? heheh (evil laughter....) |
| 16:12:06 | scorche | shriphani: see the topic... |
| 16:12:28 | shriphani | i cant find it in there so i shall be greatful for the help |
| 16:12:36 | shriphani | grateful |
| 16:13:00 | linuxstb | Check the IpodInstallation directory... |
| 16:13:09 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:13:19 | ricardo_dawkins | do we discuss rockbox themes here ? |
| 16:13:38 | ricardo_dawkins | sorry to ask this.. |
| 16:13:48 | shriphani | thanks |
| 16:14:04 | XavierGr | hmfr they thought of that too |
| 16:14:07 | ricardo_dawkins | amicon: does your EEPROM driver works with H320 ? |
| 16:14:19 | XavierGr | VMware mounter will refuse to mount the disk while vmware is running |
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| 16:15:30 | linuxstb | XavierGr: That's not surprising - it would be very hard to make two operating systems co-operate and access the same raw disk device at the same time. |
| 16:15:40 | shriphani | linuxstb: rockboot.bin please :) |
| 16:15:58 | linuxstb | shriphani: You make that yourself. |
| 16:16:12 | shriphani | oh with the code ? |
| 16:16:50 | XavierGr | more bad news: |
| 16:16:52 | linuxstb | Yes, ipod_fw.c is used to create it - based on files you've created in earlier steps. |
| 16:17:12 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:17:13 | XavierGr | it won't let you mount a virtual HD if the machine is closed in a suspended state. |
| 16:17:26 | eGen_ | all: I!m not only one, but I will put a rockbox to my iRiver H320 .. but i can't find download link for fwpatcher :o( can somebody tell me, where is fwpatcher now for download ? |
| 16:17:34 | XavierGr | beats the point of using it.... |
| 16:17:53 | bluebrother | XavierGr, this isn't surprising −− the disk is marked to be mounted, so the windows driver refuses to recognize it. |
| 16:17:56 | shriphani | but i dont see rockboot.bin in the dir :( |
| 16:18:07 | bluebrother | but you can read such a disk with explore2fs |
| 16:18:18 | bluebrother | unfortunately explore2fs is read only. |
| 16:18:29 | ricardo_dawkins | amicon: does your EEPROM driver works with H320 ? |
| 16:18:31 | XavierGr | bluebrother: yes, but it would be good to be able to do so. |
| 16:18:38 | linuxstb | shriphani: Have you ran the ipod_fw command to generate it? (step 7 in the PDF manual) |
| 16:18:40 | XavierGr | bluebrother: no |
| 16:18:45 | shriphani | yes |
| 16:18:53 | XavierGr | my version lets me check to enable write support |
| 16:18:59 | shriphani | let me run it again |
| 16:19:44 | bluebrother | XavierGr, doing so would be problematic as some files would change without the OS knowing of it. So there's a risk to modify files that are already open. |
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| 16:20:25 | shriphani | should i replace the -g and -e ???? |
| 16:20:45 | XavierGr | bluebrother: Yes I agree it is quite risky to do so |
| 16:20:45 | shriphani | or should i type the code in directly? |
| 16:21:05 | linuxstb | shriphani: You don't use -e in the last step. Does the manual say you do? |
| 16:21:21 | shriphani | no |
| 16:21:23 | ricardo_dawkins | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5050.0 |
| 16:21:26 | shriphani | but i do use a -g |
| 16:21:37 | shriphani | so i should type -5g there ? |
| 16:21:39 | bluebrother | how about using a windows folder and mapping it to a new drive letter, making that accessible from vmware? Isn't that possible? |
| 16:22:23 | shriphani | or only 5g |
| 16:23:03 | linuxstb | shriphani: You should type exactly what step 8 says in the manual |
| 16:23:14 | shriphani | i did that |
| 16:24:08 | linuxstb | Then if there is no rockboot.bin in the current directory, something went wrong in the earlier steps. How big are a) bootpartition.bin, b) apple_os.bin and c) apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin ? |
| 16:24:42 | shriphani | how big ? |
| 16:24:56 | linuxstb | Yes, the filesizes. |
| 16:25:01 | shriphani | oh |
| 16:25:51 | shriphani | apple_os.bin = 0bytes !!! |
| 16:26:46 | linuxstb | Did you change any of the command-lines? Only the "dd" commands needs to be changed at all - to refer to the correct disk device. Everything else you just type verbatim. |
| 16:26:58 | shriphani | no i didnt |
| 16:27:06 | linuxstb | So how big is bootpartition.bin? |
| 16:27:24 | shriphani | 109.8 mb |
| 16:27:54 | linuxstb | Sounds right. Try the ipod_fw command in step 6 again. |
| 16:27:59 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:28:06 | linuxstb | (and then check the size of apple_os.bin) |
| 16:29:24 | shriphani | still 0 b |
| 16:29:48 | shriphani | the command returns an instruction manual of ipod_fw |
| 16:30:00 | linuxstb | In which case you've mistyped one of the options. |
| 16:30:20 | XavierGr | hmfr created files in windows are all lost when VM starts |
| 16:31:20 | shriphani | got it right now |
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| 16:32:54 | shriphani | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video |
| 16:32:54 | shriphani | Cannot open firmware image file apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin |
| 16:33:33 | shriphani | thats the output i got |
| 16:33:53 | shriphani | is it righ |
| 16:35:07 | shriphani | erm linuxstb is the output right ? |
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| 16:36:30 | linuxstb | No - it means you don't have the apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin file. |
| 16:36:36 | shriphani | but i do |
| 16:36:41 | shriphani | i can see it |
| 16:36:43 | linuxstb | With that _exact_ name? |
| 16:36:57 | linuxstb | And it's not zero bytes? |
| 16:37:27 | shriphani | it has an apple_s not _sw |
| 16:37:48 | shriphani | so another misspelt command ? |
| 16:38:24 | linuxstb | Yes... I'm guessing you're not using copy/paste? |
| 16:38:30 | shriphani | no |
| 16:38:55 | shriphani | this kubuntu isnt agreeing with this laptop keyoard |
| 16:39:29 | bluebrother | linuxstb, how about writing a small cmd / bash script that automates these steps? |
| 16:39:35 | bluebrother | just as an idea. |
| 16:39:40 | shriphani | so must i start from scratch ? |
| 16:39:47 | linuxstb | shriphani: No, just rename the file. |
| 16:39:51 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:40:10 | lamed | hello everyone. someone had time to take a look over http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5641 or http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5587 ? |
| 16:40:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I would prefer to enhance the tools to reduce the number of steps (and necessary options). But I'm sure someone has already written a script to do it... |
| 16:41:25 | bluebrother | is there a reliable possibility to detect a dap and determine its type? Especially on windows? |
| 16:42:56 | shriphani | thats done it |
| 16:43:22 | lamed | i guess not |
| 16:43:39 | linuxstb | shriphani: Just to double-check, your apple_os.bin and the apple_sw_... files should both be around 5MB in size, but different sizes (apple_os.bin is slightly bigger). |
| 16:43:46 | shriphani | linuxstb: can you tell me where to find the firmware ? |
| 16:43:49 | linuxstb | Your rockboot.bin should be just under 12MB. |
| 16:44:00 | linuxstb | shriphani: You mean Rockbox itself? |
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| 16:44:35 | shriphani | rockboot.bin = 5.7 MB :( |
| 16:44:48 | linuxstb | shriphani: And your apple_sw_... file? |
| 16:45:18 | shriphani | 5.0 MB |
| 16:46:13 | shriphani | will it blast my ipod off now? |
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| 16:46:38 | linuxstb | It won't work - so don't try the final "dd" command. |
| 16:46:45 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:47:05 | shriphani | then do i start from scratch ? |
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| 16:48:19 | linuxstb | No, your two apple_ files seem correct. I'm guessing you mistyped the last ipod_fw command. Try deleting your rockboot.bin and then running that final ipod_fw command again. |
| 16:48:26 | shriphani | ok |
| 16:49:53 | amiconn | bluebrother: It should be possible to find the vendor and type of plugged in usb drives |
| 16:50:57 | shriphani | now its 2.3 MB lol |
| 16:51:42 | rasher | Forum spam! Forum spam! |
| 16:52:06 | rasher | Whoever has the ability to clean out that. |
| 16:52:15 | linuxstb | shriphani: Obvious question, but is your hard disk full? |
| 16:52:22 | shriphani | no |
| 16:52:23 | linuxstb | rasher: Use the "report to moderator" link. |
| 16:53:16 | rasher | Ah, well that was obvious. |
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| 17:04:41 | linuxstb | obo: Songbird compiled fine for me, but playback doesn't seem to be implemented yet for Linux :) So it's a little limiting... |
| 17:05:09 | obo | slightly :) I think I'll stick to amarok |
| 17:06:15 | linuxstb | I also hate apps that ignore the user's window manager and do things themselves... |
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| 17:21:08 | ricardo_dawkins | there is a way to solve my problem ? |
| 17:23:15 | flux__ | hmm.. format media-feature, is it smart enough to store the .rockbox-directory temporarily to memory?-o |
| 17:23:30 | flux__ | (is there enough capacity to do that..) |
| 17:23:42 | flux__ | (in ihp120) |
| 17:24:19 | rasher | What do you mean, like a disk-cache? |
| 17:25:17 | rasher | That is, keeping parts of the disk in memory, no, there's no such thing as far as I know. It wouldn't really help much either, since the .rockbox directory is rarely read |
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| 17:42:49 | ender` | flux__: theoretically, there is enough memory - H120/140 have 32MB RAM, and H110 has 16MB, while rockbox compiled for iriver is less than 3MB. it shouldn't really matter though, since the device boots from flash memory, which formatting doesn't touch |
| 17:44:41 | flux__ | rasher, well, atleast the binary would be nice to have |
| 17:44:53 | flux__ | but yeah, you would still need to copy all the music from a pc |
| 17:44:59 | flux__ | you could use it to record stuff, though ;) |
| 17:45:01 | rasher | flux__: That's already in memory as far as I can tell |
| 17:45:22 | flux__ | hmm.. but I doubt it is written back to the media after formatting it? |
| 17:45:23 | rasher | since it's being executed and all |
| 17:45:41 | rasher | Now I'm completely confused. I have no idea what you're saying, basically |
| 17:45:57 | flux__ | does formatting media erase also rockbox? |
| 17:46:08 | flux__ | when you do that from within rockbox |
| 17:46:10 | rasher | Yes, it does. |
| 17:46:14 | flux__ | ok |
| 17:46:20 | rasher | You can't do that. |
| 17:46:26 | rasher | There's no "format" in Rockbox. |
| 17:46:29 | flux__ | hm |
| 17:47:02 | flux__ | ok, well that might be, maybe I'm remembering reading iriver changelog, and I don't have the wiki or the player handy :) |
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| 17:52:48 | bluebrother | should we still consider this request as valid? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5088 |
| 17:53:47 | rasher | Don't think so. It's completely the opposite of intended behaviour |
| 17:54:22 | rasher | And the button-detection is just not done yet |
| 17:55:16 | rasher | I believe |
| 17:55:22 | rasher | at least, booting Apple by default will not happen. |
| 17:56:24 | rasher | It's great when users set severity to high because their problems are most important |
| 17:56:33 | petur | :) |
| 17:56:52 | petur | critical even |
| 17:56:56 | rasher | A bit like those pretentious people who set the "important" flag in Outlook |
| 17:57:02 | bluebrother | I _love_ users who know their "bugs" are critical. |
| 17:57:38 | bluebrother | task closed. |
| 17:58:29 | bluebrother | hehe ... pacman as feature request. That is really old. |
| 17:59:01 | petur | kill kill |
| 17:59:05 | rasher | The tracker has always been and probably will always be a mess of old and/or invalid items |
| 17:59:27 | bluebrother | sure, but sometimes old tasks need to be killed. |
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| 17:59:41 | rasher | Indeed, it's just a lot of work |
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| 18:00:31 | rasher | Maybe an age-limit should be set on patches. If there's been no update in 3 months, close it (unless it's on a plugin) |
| 18:00:34 | bluebrother | hehe: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1863 |
| 18:00:45 | bluebrother | "Showing the picture itself is of course not possible" |
| 18:01:21 | rasher | "Jukebox" means Player IIRC, so he's actually right |
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| 18:01:46 | rasher | In Archos terms, that is |
| 18:02:26 | rasher | I guess the request is still valid, technically. He's basically asking for a port of "file", isn't he? |
| 18:03:16 | bluebrother | something like that. But I think this is covered better by the file properties request. |
| 18:06:08 | rasher | True, forgot about that. It's been a while since I trawled the tracker |
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| 18:09:14 | rasher | And I even wrote a patch for that (which is attached to the first post though, guess because of the SF->FS conversion), my memory must be failing me. |
| 18:14:39 | rasher | Argh! Referencing items by their SourceForge id is the devil. |
| 18:15:06 | rasher | "I can confirm the behaviour reported in 988530." Well that's great, but what is 988530? |
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| 18:16:59 | rasher | Any objections to closing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2320 ? It's a) really really old b) referencing something that's impossible to find right now |
| 18:19:24 | rasher | Silence is acceptance, closed. |
| 18:19:57 | linuxstb_ | rasher: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=988530&group_id=44306&atid=439121 |
| 18:20:06 | linuxstb_ | Give me more than 2 minutes :) |
| 18:20:23 | sharpe | waking up is fun... |
| 18:20:40 | linuxstb_ | rasher: But that was closed, so I guess it's correct to close 2320. |
| 18:20:56 | rasher | Shows how much I know - thought the SF tracker was emptied. |
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| 18:22:08 | rasher | You know something is old if it references the haxx.se domain |
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| 18:22:52 | bluebrother | how about closing all tasks that are older than say 1 year and opened by anonymous reporters? |
| 18:22:56 | amiconn | rasher: 988530 is a sf tracker id |
| 18:23:57 | Mikachu | waiting usually doesn't fix bugs |
| 18:24:05 | amiconn | I think mentioned task can be closed. A new charging algorithm was implemented for recorder v1 after that report |
| 18:24:09 | bluebrother | may I draw some attention to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5619 ? |
| 18:24:31 | amiconn | It performs significantly better than the old one, although it's not perfect |
| 18:26:13 | rasher | amiconn: About the sf id, yeah, I just thought the SF tracker had been closed/emptied so there was no way to figure out which one was meant |
| 18:27:02 | linuxstb_ | rasher: I just went through my archive of "rockbox-sf" emails, and tried one of the old URLs. I was surprised it worked as well. |
| 18:27:24 | rasher | bluebrother: I agree it'd be a more reasonable default (same way my phone works, for what little that's worth) |
| 18:27:31 | linuxstb_ | The "tracker" link on the main sourceforge project page doesn't list any trackers. But I guess old items are never deleted. |
| 18:27:44 | rasher | linuxstb_: That may be the root of my confusion |
| 18:28:04 | bluebrother | rasher, I think it would be good to have this change in before 3.0 |
| 18:28:54 | rasher | I'd agree, but then I a) don't own a colour unit b) am not much of a developer |
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| 18:30:34 | bluebrother | color unit? |
| 18:31:02 | linuxstb_ | The default is true for colour units, false for others... |
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| 18:32:23 | linuxstb | The option seems pointless on the ipods though - just touching the scrollwheel (which is neccessary before you can press a button) enables the backlight. So the backlight is always on when you press a button... |
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| 18:33:03 | amiconn | linuxstb: That's not true for select... |
| 18:33:17 | bluebrother | has this been changed? After the last settings reset I made on my h120 it was enabled ... |
| 18:33:18 | * | linuxstb bangs hand against head |
| 18:33:37 | Mikachu | you don't have to worry about that until november |
| 18:33:41 | linuxstb | OK, so it's pointless for a different reason. |
| 18:35:33 | rasher | Nice tagcache update |
| 18:37:05 | * | rasher thinks it would be nice if "FS#[0-9]*" got linked in flyspray |
| 18:37:17 | linuxstb | bluebrother: That pacman feature request is still valid for Archos devices - pacbox (being an emulator) is only really suitable for the more powerful devices. |
| 18:37:31 | linuxstb | (it doesn't run on Archos devices) |
| 18:37:38 | rasher | I smell red |
| 18:37:57 | bluebrother | linuxstb, ok. So I guess it should be reopened? |
| 18:38:02 | rasher | Slasheri makes a dash at the hiscore |
| 18:38:29 | rasher | I guess that's why my Windows sim builds started failing |
| 18:40:09 | ricardo_dawkins | what happens if I short circuit the pin on the USB port for my H320 ??? |
| 18:40:28 | sharpe | ricardo_dawkins: which pin? |
| 18:40:41 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I guess so. (sorry...) |
| 18:41:22 | gromit` | funny the /. article about talking ipods... |
| 18:41:26 | gromit` | http://rss.slashdot.org/Slashdot/slashdot?m=6486 |
| 18:41:31 | gromit` | patents... |
| 18:41:46 | rasher | "Apple proudly reinvents the wheel" |
| 18:42:20 | rasher | Not to mention the whole thing is pretty much the obvious way to do it |
| 18:44:10 | rasher | "Not content with changing the world's music-listening habits, Apple has come up with another innovation: the talking iPod." and yet, Rockbox is able to get there first. On the ipod, no less. |
| 18:44:32 | linuxstb | So that Scotsman article is just based on the fact (widely reported a few months ago) that Apple have some Voice-related patents? i.e. it's just rumours? |
| 18:44:36 | rasher | That article reeks of press release |
| 18:44:50 | bluebrother | linuxstb, reopened it. But set the target to archos ;-) |
| 18:44:52 | rasher | Or fanboyism, or both. |
| 18:44:57 | rasher | linuxstb: Probably |
| 18:46:48 | rasher | I wonder when the "oops" commit will come |
| 18:47:03 | rasher | Hope this wasn't a commit-and-run |
| 18:49:08 | ricardo_dawkins | sharpe: 1 and 5. the two on the extremes for the USB DATA port |
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| 18:49:44 | ricardo_dawkins | what will happen if I short these pins ? |
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| 18:54:41 | ricardo_dawkins | sharpe: 1 and 5. the two on the extremes for the USB DATA port |
| 18:54:47 | ricardo_dawkins | what will happen if I short these pins ? |
| 18:55:05 | rasher | Repeating your question won't help you get an answer. |
| 18:55:21 | ricardo_dawkins | ok...what about the MEDIA port ? |
| 18:55:32 | ricardo_dawkins | last question...sorry for spamming |
| 18:56:28 | rasher | (I do not know the answer to your questions) |
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| 20:08:59 | webguest76 | hi. i have an actual rockbox on my ipod 5g. From time to time the display shows "codec error" and skips through the whole list. after a restart everything is fine again. Is there a reason for this? |
| 20:09:46 | Ribs | the ipod port of rockbox is immature |
| 20:09:53 | Ribs | there are all sorts of strange bugs right now |
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| 20:12:16 | ryran | hola everyone. question: does the setting [ system > limits > max playlist size ] affect tagcache too? |
| 20:12:35 | webguest76 | yeah. right. but it is still fun. i heard that the ipod is official supported in 3.1 at november. is that right? |
| 20:13:42 | Mikachu | as right as 3.0 was out two months ago |
| 20:13:52 | jhMikeS | webguest76: I get that on the X5 as well. At the end of an album folder as far as I can tell right now. |
| 20:14:24 | webguest76 | mikachu: ^^ |
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| 20:15:41 | ryran | mmmm... |
| 20:16:10 | webguest76 | jhMikeS: at the end of an folder? you have got that "resume-to-next-folder-thingie" turned on? I am using a very big playlist so that cannot be the reason for my problem. |
| 20:17:06 | webguest76 | and needless to say that the x5-port is also immature. ^^ |
| 20:19:11 | jhMikeS | I haven't been able to reproduce it at will. It seems to happen mostly after long play times and I don't hear music anymore. I don't know about my setting. I'll give a look. |
| 20:19:55 | webguest76 | um... and sorry for my bad english in disguise and advance. ^^ |
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| 20:23:12 | jhMikeS | Where's the "resume to next folder thingie" located? Do you mean "Auto Change Directory"? That is on. |
| 20:24:18 | webguest76 | yeah. right. |
| 20:24:57 | webguest76 | have you ever thought of making bigger playlists? or one playlist per folder? maybe that helps. |
| 20:27:37 | jhMikeS | I don't usually use playlists. But it comes up when I'm not watching. I could try that or just put one short file in each of say, 10 directories and see if it speeds up the process. |
| 20:28:10 | webguest76 | good idea |
| 20:30:43 | jhMikeS | Right now I'm just reading chip docs... |
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| 20:37:03 | ryran | do any DEVS: does the setting [ system > limits > max playlist size ] affect tagcache playback also? |
| 20:37:09 | ryran | to, even |
| 20:42:09 | Slasheri | ryran: yes, it will affect. If tagcache view has more items, then chunked browsing mode is automatically enabled |
| 20:42:25 | Slasheri | but if it's not a root menu, then sorting is lost |
| 20:42:43 | ryran | hmmm |
| 20:42:59 | ryran | can't say I totally understand ya Slasheri, but I'll just go with the 'yes' ;D |
| 20:45:15 | Slasheri | ryran: hmm, in fact i think the option "was max files in a directory", not "max playlist size" |
| 20:45:28 | Slasheri | so changing the first one has affect with tagcache |
| 20:46:46 | hardeep | Slasheri: I only looked at them briefly but it doesn't appear that your latest changes modified the tagcache file structures any? |
| 20:47:04 | ryran | oh. so 'max playlist size' is just talking about... uhh.. a playlist. and 'max files in dir browser' affects tagcache, say if you were to try displaying all tracks? |
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| 20:48:55 | Slasheri | hardeep: your pc program generating the tagcache should be fully compatible with the latest version of tagcache, no internal sturctures are changed |
| 20:49:05 | hardeep | Slasheri: cool, thanks |
| 20:49:22 | Slasheri | only new functionality has been added and existing bugs fixed in order to delete entries fully or partially on the fly |
| 20:49:49 | jhMikeS | ryran: I looked and I don't see any reference to that setting in tagcache.c...so...IMHO...no. |
| 20:50:01 | ryran | hmmmmm.... |
| 20:50:47 | ryran | innnteresting |
| 20:51:38 | hardeep | tree.c/tagtree.c are what you want to look at, max files in a directory will affect the tagcache |
| 20:51:57 | hardeep | max files in a playlist only affects the playlist code |
| 20:52:07 | ryran | okay |
| 20:52:50 | ryran | so the max files in a dir affects like... ie, how many songs would be displayed if you displayed them by track? |
| 20:54:08 | hardeep | ryran: yes |
| 20:54:13 | ryran | yay |
| 20:54:20 | ryran | t'ank a you hardeep |
| 20:55:01 | jhMikeS | I see max_files_in_dir controlling the number entries but not max_files_in_playlist. |
| 20:55:43 | hardeep | jhMikeS: yes, that's correct |
| 20:57:31 | * | amiconn hands Slasheri his score of 2534 ;) |
| 20:57:50 | amiconn | correction, 2530 |
| 20:58:34 | hardeep | new record? |
| 20:59:16 | Slasheri | amiconn :D |
| 20:59:51 | amiconn | hardeep: I don't think so. Iirc the record is around 8000 |
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| 21:01:00 | Slasheri | amiconn: now at commit step, all deleted entries and indexes are permanently wiped out from the tagcache database except the filenames |
| 21:01:20 | hardeep | something to aim for next time! |
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| 21:02:01 | hardeep | are the cross compilers available as debian packages anywhere or do I need to rebuild? |
| 21:02:05 | amiconn | Slasheri: Any significant speed changes at scan and/or commit? |
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| 21:02:48 | Slasheri | amiconn: speed should be the same as before, no changes to that |
| 21:03:11 | amiconn | Slasheri: Also, is wiping optional (i.e. can I build a cumulative database across several MMCs on Ondio)? |
| 21:03:28 | JdGordon | morning all |
| 21:03:34 | Slasheri | except manual update is much slower than before if dircache has been disabled.. because code needs to reverse scan for every file on the hd |
| 21:04:05 | Slasheri | hmm, currently wiping isn't optional |
| 21:04:24 | amiconn | It's not that important to make it optional... |
| 21:04:57 | amiconn | The only situation where this would be handy is checking a collection spread across several MMCs for dupes and tagging errors |
| 21:05:01 | Slasheri | however, enabling automatic updating and disabling dircache only adds new files |
| 21:05:18 | amiconn | Auto-update works without dircache now? |
| 21:05:30 | Slasheri | manual update always detects deleted files and when committing next time (new files have been added), old entries are wiped out |
| 21:05:32 | Slasheri | yes |
| 21:05:56 | Slasheri | it shouldn't be too slow when only adding new files |
| 21:06:17 | amiconn | How does it detect new files? |
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| 21:06:50 | Slasheri | it recursively scans the hd (as it did before) and checks if the files already exist in tagcache |
| 21:08:29 | amiconn | ? |
| 21:08:36 | * | amiconn doesn't understand |
| 21:08:56 | amiconn | What's the difference between this and a manual update? |
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| 21:09:40 | Slasheri | there is no difference, except manual update does only the reversed scan (with tagcache entries scanned against hdd entries) even if dircache is not enabled |
| 21:09:50 | Slasheri | only=too |
| 21:09:53 | Slasheri | *also |
| 21:09:55 | Slasheri | :D |
| 21:10:22 | amiconn | Hmm, but how is the scan triggered? |
| 21:10:36 | amiconn | Does it scan every time at boot / after usb? |
| 21:10:56 | Slasheri | auto scan is done at every boot in background (after initializing dircache and loading tagcache to ram as desired) |
| 21:11:01 | Slasheri | yes |
| 21:11:17 | jhMikeS | I'm still setting stuff up here. Where's a place that I can currently access the guide to compiling rockbox? There's no Google cache for that page. |
| 21:11:20 | amiconn | May take a long time and eat a lot of battery... |
| 21:11:40 | Slasheri | true.. it takes something like 20-30s to do the auto scan without dircache |
| 21:11:45 | Slasheri | but that's an option :) |
| 21:11:52 | amiconn | aha |
| 21:12:06 | amiconn | Did the hard entry limit go away? |
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| 21:12:39 | Slasheri | nope, there is still the limit of 10000 entries.. but that will be fixed later |
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| 21:12:53 | Slasheri | needs more investigation on the memory allocation routines |
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| 21:13:49 | amiconn | Some archos users already ran into the limit. |
| 21:13:52 | amiconn | If it |
| 21:14:23 | amiconn | 's not possible to avoid the hard limit, tagcache should at least behave graceful |
| 21:15:27 | Slasheri | yes, that will be probably the next thing to fix :) |
| 21:16:34 | amiconn | Iirc, commit doesn't finish when there are more than 10000 entries |
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| 21:37:14 | KlrSpz | http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/06/07/10/0345252.shtml |
| 21:37:14 | KlrSpz | anyone see that? |
| 21:37:37 | |apo| | Uh... |
| 21:37:43 | |apo| | based on a patent filed by Apple in the US. From the article: >_> |
| 21:38:12 | KlrSpz | wonder what that entails for rockbox |
| 21:38:32 | |apo| | But... We're first |
| 21:38:32 | |apo| | <_< |
| 21:38:39 | |apo| | Aren't we? |
| 21:38:40 | KlrSpz | first to use possibly |
| 21:38:54 | KlrSpz | but if apple has the 1-up on the patent, that means legal discretion could be suited |
| 21:39:29 | |apo| | I really don't get that... how can Apple patent that if they weren't the first to use it? |
| 21:40:19 | KlrSpz | beaurocracy |
| 21:40:23 | |apo| | ~_~ |
| 21:40:25 | Mikachu | the us patent office is broken |
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| 21:40:31 | KlrSpz | bureaucracy, sorry |
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| 21:41:20 | jhMikeS | Ever since Einstein left it is. |
| 21:41:29 | |apo| | :/ Now I wanna get voice on my iPod |
| 21:42:13 | |apo| | Does anybody know how to do it? |
| 21:42:37 | |apo| | Hm, perhaps the google cache can help |
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| 21:43:10 | KylePV | just put the voice file in the lang folder |
| 21:45:56 | |apo| | Hm |
| 21:46:01 | |apo| | It's working |
| 21:46:02 | |apo| | ^_^ |
| 21:46:03 | |apo| | Thanks |
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| 21:53:21 | KylePV | no probs |
| 21:53:27 | PaulJam | Slasheri: there seems to be a problem with the german language file in the tagcache settings, in the menu entry to keep tagcache in RAM i have the choices "nein" (no) and "Tag-Datenbank aktualisieren" (update tagcache). the second choice should be "Ja" (yes). |
| 21:54:00 | PaulJam | (this happens in a uisim compiled from cvs) |
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| 22:02:53 | |apo| | What filename do I have to give the mp3s in my folders to have them played when selecting a folder? (Voice directories -> .talk mp3 clip) |
| 22:03:09 | |apo| | I've given them the name _dirname.talk, but it doesn't play them |
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| 22:04:55 | KylePV | don't know, if the wiki was up the info is there, maybe somebody else here (irc) knows... |
| 22:08:34 | RoC_MM | what happened to the website itself? |
| 22:11:05 | KlrSpz | apparently attacked |
| 22:11:22 | apo` | _dirname.talk seems to be correct |
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| 22:18:55 | ryran | I know I've asked this before, but I want to make sure I've got the syntax right. for reversing a patch: patch -p0 -R < patch.patch |
| 22:19:01 | ryran | anyone? |
| 22:19:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Assuming the capital R is correct, then yes. |
| 22:19:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can't remember if it's upper or lower case. |
| 22:19:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think it is -R though |
| 22:19:40 | dionoea | yup |
| 22:20:02 | ryran | yeah I looked at the man and saw it was upper.. I just was worried about the order |
| 22:20:16 | dionoea | p0 ? |
| 22:20:38 | dionoea | err ... nevermind (i read other instead of order) |
| 22:20:41 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Have you tried upgrading your Nano to Apple's latest firmware? |
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| 22:21:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I have not. I've been out of state, without my iPod. I just got home today. I was thinking about doing it after class tonight. Is it having problems? |
| 22:21:35 | linuxstb | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5190 |
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| 22:22:55 | linuxstb | Someone also emailed the (main) mailing list with exactly the same issue (but maybe the same person) |
| 22:23:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 22:23:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'll give it a shot later tonight. |
| 22:24:16 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is gonna hafta install iTunes again. |
| 22:24:20 | linuxstb | I also read that the latest firmware fixes the VBR problem, so I would be curious to know if that's true. |
| 22:24:23 | sharpe | ohno! |
| 22:24:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I have one song that reliably triggered that, so I'll give that a shot too. |
| 22:24:52 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I think you can avoid that, one moment... |
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| 22:26:23 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: The "resource hacker" linked here should be able to extract firmware images from the windows updater: http://ipodlinux.org/Updater#Firmware_Images |
| 22:26:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Mainly I need iTunes to actually sync songs over so they would normally show up in the retail OS. ;) |
| 22:26:57 | linuxstb | Ah yes... :) |
| 22:27:07 | * | linuxstb stops trying to be too clever... |
| 22:27:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 22:27:54 | linuxstb | Do you have your own internet connection now, or still relying on neighbors? |
| 22:28:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have my own again, finally. |
| 22:28:29 | sharpe | since he's in scorche, wouldn't it have to at least be a wireless one; which could be either his or scorche's? |
| 22:28:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Seems to be 1.8mbit cable. |
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| 22:29:46 | sharpe | and i'll just go back to what i usually do now. |
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| 22:41:53 | RoC_MM | Apple finally fixed the bug where their firmware cut off the end of VBR mp3's and randomly changed the volume? |
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| 22:43:12 | apo` | [22:24:16] Paul_The_Nerd is gonna hafta install iTunes again. < :D |
| 22:43:32 | linuxstb | RoC_MM: The bug I was talking about was when the buffer emptied when playing back VBR mp3 files and the songs would skip. I didn't know about the others. |
| 22:43:56 | RoC_MM | songs would skip |
| 22:43:59 | RoC_MM | like to the next song? |
| 22:44:05 | linuxstb | No, like Rockbox :) |
| 22:44:07 | RoC_MM | oh |
| 22:44:19 | RoC_MM | yeah apple goofs badly on vbr's |
| 22:44:28 | RoC_MM | surprised rockbox did or does |
| 22:44:37 | RoC_MM | haven't ever noticed it I don't thin |
| 22:44:39 | RoC_MM | *think |
| 22:45:35 | linuxstb | The Rockbox problem is not specific to VBR MP3 files - depending on what else you are doing at the same time, it's not uncommon for music playback to skip on the ipods due to lack of CPU power (i.e. a lack of optimisation of Rockbox). |
| 22:45:51 | RoC_MM | oh for sure |
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| 22:46:38 | linuxstb | Apple's bug IIUC was due to them slowing down the CPU for the low-bitrate parts of VBR files, and then not speeding it up fast enough to cope with sudden spikes in the bitrate. |
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| 23:47:21 | sharpe | it's amazing how often HFS+ support topics are brought up... |
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| 23:52:21 | MrStaticVoid | i certainly wouldnt mind doing away with fat |
| 23:52:38 | MrStaticVoid | i just want to put : in filenames |
| 23:53:33 | Mikachu | :?_^.mp3 |
| 23:54:17 | apo` | :?/.mp3 |
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| 23:55:07 | apo` | \:?<>"*/.mp3 |
| 23:55:08 | apo` | :P |
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| 23:55:13 | apo` | I think I got 'em all |
| 23:55:15 | Mikachu | i have many songs with ? in the name |
| 23:55:35 | apo` | So do I ~_~ |
| 23:55:46 | Mikachu | is the only one that is never possible |
| 23:55:52 | apo` | Foobar maps the invalid chars to _ |
| 23:56:02 | apo` | Looks ugly, but whatever. |
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| 23:57:21 | sharpe | i just think it's kind of funny how it's brought up, but no one ever does anything about it. |
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| 23:58:26 | MrStaticVoid | i looked through the linux hfs+ code and rockbox's fat code, but its just too much work |
| 23:58:47 | apo` | Well, you can hardly change the filesystem - the original firmware still has to work on it, after all. |
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