| 00:00:45 | RaeNye | I can tell you how exactly the OF does it - it has 3 possible settings |
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| 00:03:53 | BigMac | hi all |
| 00:04:32 | RaeNye | Another unrelated topic. The X5 OF seems to save its configuration block as the last flash sector. Do you think RB should support saving settings on flash instead of on the HDD? |
| 00:04:58 | BigMac | rae: do you own an x5? |
| 00:05:26 | RaeNye | Why, of course. |
| 00:05:48 | BigMac | how is it? |
| 00:05:55 | BigMac | is it worth its cost? |
| 00:05:57 | RaeNye | That's the main reason of me working on X5 related features in RB :) |
| 00:06:18 | jhMikeS | X5! |
| 00:06:34 | RaeNye | I have the 20GB bigger battery model. I like it very much |
| 00:07:03 | RaeNye | The drawbacks are the LCD size (could be bigger) - but this doesn't matter for audio |
| 00:07:31 | * | petur wonders what people do with such small capacity players |
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| 00:08:03 | RaeNye | pretty much everything else is just great. |
| 00:08:12 | jhMikeS | The music is what matters. I'll buy one of those video players if I want to watch movies. |
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| 00:08:42 | BigMac | so the audio is as good as everyone says? |
| 00:09:16 | linuxstb | Has anyone done any recent battery benchmarks? I read a while ago that the battery consumption on the X5 was bad in Rockbox - but am assuming it's improving. |
| 00:09:18 | RaeNye | petur: I seem to forget songs after 14 days of constant playback |
| 00:09:41 | jhMikeS | bigmac: The audio is great. yes. I use sennheiser px100 headphones. |
| 00:09:59 | BigMac | ahh |
| 00:10:07 | BigMac | i hate this ipod linux |
| 00:10:07 | BigMac | i cant get it off though |
| 00:10:09 | RaeNye | linuxstb: I get 25h on X5L with VBR MP3 crossfeed, replaygain |
| 00:10:12 | BigMac | i have to do a full restore |
| 00:10:31 | linuxstb | RaeNye: Any idea what the Cowan firmware can do with the same files? |
| 00:10:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: How long do you get with the retail firmware with the same files? |
| 00:10:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, what linuxstb said. |
| 00:10:49 | RaeNye | bigmac: the FM radio is not more than fair, but is sufficient |
| 00:10:57 | BigMac | cool |
| 00:11:39 | RaeNye | It's been a while since I last used the OF for anything but USBOTG... but I recall 30+ hours |
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| 00:12:14 | RaeNye | I never listen that much consecutively... |
| 00:12:43 | linuxstb | So still a little way to go... |
| 00:12:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'd be neat to have a comparative playback test, but at 25+ hours per run, that'd take a while. |
| 00:13:43 | RaeNye | jhmikes: it's true that only the music matters, but it'd be nice to have more screen space for WPS and to be able to support gameboy emulation (160x160 is just slightly more than the 160x128 X5 has) |
| 00:14:06 | * | linuxstb curses his 7 hour ipod... |
| 00:14:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | What has 160x160? |
| 00:15:08 | RaeNye | linuxstb: not necessarily, since the OF doesn't do replaygain and crossfeed. A more thorough test is required. |
| 00:15:13 | RaeNye | gameboy has |
| 00:15:33 | linuxstb | I think the gameboy is something like 160x144. |
| 00:15:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Gameboy is 160x14 |
| 00:15:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | 144 |
| 00:16:17 | RaeNye | but it's square... I just looked at it |
| 00:16:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | The screen can look square, but have rectangular pixels, perhaps/ |
| 00:16:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | ? |
| 00:16:57 | linuxstb | You can almost fit four gameboys on the 5g's 320x240 screen... |
| 00:17:16 | RaeNye | Maybe, I donnu. Still 144>128 |
| 00:17:39 | RaeNye | on 320x240 you can view VCD and play ScummVM |
| 00:17:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I just realized the Sansa could do fullsized gameboy. |
| 00:17:59 | RaeNye | what's its size? |
| 00:18:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | 220x176 |
| 00:18:12 | RaeNye | not bad. |
| 00:18:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, ScummVM has been scaled to less than 320x240 screens, I believe. |
| 00:18:23 | linuxstb | VCD is 352 wide, (and 288 high for PAL) |
| 00:18:43 | LinusN | rockboy runs on the h1xx, which is 160x128 |
| 00:19:31 | RaeNye | linusN: and what is done with the surplus pixels? |
| 00:19:38 | Landus | Uh, after I patch the source, what do I do to put the changes on my DAP? |
| 00:19:45 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Does the Sansa have enough buttons? |
| 00:19:47 | LinusN | it has three modes iirc |
| 00:19:49 | linuxstb | (for Rockboy) |
| 00:19:58 | BigMac | wo |
| 00:20:12 | BigMac | what if i have no ipod control folder on my 5g? |
| 00:20:22 | BigMac | the music is still on the pod |
| 00:20:31 | LinusN | skip the top 16 pixels, skip the bottom 16 pixels, or skip every X row evenly distributed |
| 00:20:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: No, it's short by one. You have four directions, a center button, the record button, and the power button. (UDLR, B, A, and Start, I suppose), so nothing for select (toggle hold maybe? Or turn the scroller either direction?) |
| 00:20:48 | RaeNye | LinusN: Umm... so what's missing for it to be running on X5? I think I might take a look.... |
| 00:21:17 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: At least it's better than the ipods... Toggle hold could be start. |
| 00:21:20 | BigMac | ? |
| 00:21:28 | LinusN | not sure what would be missing, but i think the 160x128 mode is very grayscale oriented |
| 00:21:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: Currently it assumes if it's a color target, it can display fullscreen. There's no color downscaling of the image size, I believe |
| 00:21:46 | linuxstb | BigMac: You mean the Apple firmware still sees the music? |
| 00:21:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Select is actually not used in more than 60% of games, if I had to hazard a guess. |
| 00:21:54 | RaeNye | bbl |
| 00:22:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMAc: You sure the file isn't just hidden? |
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| 00:22:18 | BigMac | ill check |
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| 00:22:51 | LinusN | time for me to go to sleep |
| 00:22:55 | BigMac | how do i unhide a drive? |
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| 00:23:02 | LinusN | cu tomorrow |
| 00:23:03 | BigMac | gnite |
| 00:23:15 | | Part LinusN |
| 00:23:42 | BigMac | i guess ill just do a full restore and reinstall rockbox |
| 00:24:08 | jhMikeS | Why do you sometimes get small clicks at track boundaries if you use LAME −−gapless? I thought it was supposed to be gapless. |
| 00:25:08 | jhMikeS | I encode a full CD with −−gapless <track list> and still there a tiny clicks. |
| 00:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Under Rockbox? |
| 00:25:39 | jhMikeS | Paul: If that was for me. Yes, under rockbox. |
| 00:25:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do they click under other programs, like Foobar2000? |
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| 00:26:38 | jhMikeS | Paul: Haven't tried it. Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out. |
| 00:26:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm just curious if it's a Rockbox bug, or an encoder issue. |
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| 00:27:35 | jhMikeS | I was curious too. It's especially obvious with something with uniform volume across the track boundaries. |
| 00:28:04 | jhMikeS | Like Space Intro./Fly Like an Eagle |
| 00:28:32 | jhMikeS | But still quiet. No problem with OGG. |
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| 00:29:20 | linuxstb | There are possibly still some bugs/limitations with MP3 gapless in Rockbox. |
| 00:29:47 | linuxstb | Are you seeking in the first track, or just playing it straight from start to end? |
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| 00:30:02 | jhMikeS | linexstb: straight/seeking, makes no difference. |
| 00:30:25 | jhMikeS | I'm gonna try FooBar2000 as Paul suggested. |
| 00:31:41 | linuxstb | Also, do you have any unusual tags, e.g. APE? |
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| 00:32:02 | jhMikeS | linuxstd: No. Just ID3 1 and 2 |
| 00:32:25 | * | linuxstb wonders if jhMikeS will ever get my nick correct :) |
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| 00:32:56 | jhMikeS | *LOL* My typing stinks! linuxstd! *LOL* |
| 00:33:07 | earHertz | Can I modify my GPL'd licensed code to deny its use by Verizon and Verizon employees? |
| 00:33:11 | linuxstb | Your client doesn't have tab completion? |
| 00:33:35 | linuxstb | earHertz: If it's your code, you can do anything. But it won't be GPL'd any more. |
| 00:34:06 | earHertz | There ought to be a "No corportate use" version of teh GPL |
| 00:34:13 | jhMikeS | (S)evere (T)ire (D)amage |
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| 00:34:29 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: You're not the first to make that typo... |
| 00:34:56 | jhMikeS | linexstb: Whew! |
| 00:35:38 | linuxstb | earHertz: One of the main points of the GPL is that it's free for everyone - no discrimination. |
| 00:35:54 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: OMG. I got it this time. |
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| 00:40:54 | earHertz | linuxstb: yeah, that's exactly teh problem |
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| 00:49:30 | BigMac | hey how can i change my ipods name |
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| 00:51:53 | linuxstb | Rockbox doesn't name your ipod. |
| 00:52:25 | BigMac | no but itunes chose to |
| 00:52:32 | BigMac | when i restored it |
| 00:52:44 | BigMac | it named it ipod |
| 00:52:47 | jhMikeS | Just tried the MP3 −−nogap on foobar2000 and it clicks there too. I'm using 3.96.1. I guess its not a thing to pursue here. |
| 00:53:02 | BigMac | and i liked it as Pod, |
| 00:53:17 | BigMac | because my drive is I |
| 00:53:26 | BigMac | so is is Pod,(I) |
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| 00:54:30 | linuxstb | BigMac: My point was that this isn't a general ipod/itunes support channel - it's for Rockbox... Try the forums at www.ilounge.com |
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| 00:54:56 | BigMac | ok thank you |
| 00:54:58 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: That's good news in a way (it means you haven't found a Rockbox bug). |
| 00:54:58 | S0ap | jhMikeS - what version of LAME are you using? |
| 00:55:03 | BigMac | lol |
| 00:55:05 | BigMac | LAME |
| 00:55:47 | jhMikeS | S0ap: 3.96.1 |
| 00:56:02 | S0ap | and why do you try to force −−gapless? A-I am not sure that trigger /ever/ worked right. B-Using foobar and rockbox you don't need it... |
| 00:56:13 | BigMac | ok i have a question pertaining to rockbox |
| 00:56:29 | jhMikeS | I've tried it both ways. Same result |
| 00:56:45 | BigMac | if i made a folder in root, and placed all my songs in their, would i need the songs in ipod control? |
| 00:56:48 | pixelma | jhMikeS: I don't have problems here with −−nogap here but I also set −−nogaptags (though I can't tell you more about it... I was told to) |
| 00:56:50 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: In foobar as well? |
| 00:57:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Not if you're only listening to them in Rockbox. |
| 00:57:11 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: Yes. |
| 00:57:13 | BigMac | ok |
| 00:57:31 | S0ap | HydrogenAudio is the place for LAME issues |
| 00:57:43 | jhMikeS | pixelma: I use −−nogaptags as well when using −−nogap |
| 00:57:44 | S0ap | but be prepared to defend your use of that switch. |
| 00:57:50 | linuxstb | Isn't 3.96.1 quite old? |
| 00:58:08 | S0ap | not quite old |
| 00:58:10 | S0ap | but older |
| 00:58:18 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: I believe that was a recommended version for using gapless LAME |
| 00:58:27 | linuxstb | It's just that that's the version I have installed, and I can't remember installing it... |
| 00:58:32 | S0ap | 3.90.3 is the previous recomended version, last I heard HA was thinking of switching recomendations to 3.97 |
| 00:58:49 | S0ap | jhMikeS - recommeded by who? |
| 00:59:05 | BigMac | alright i have to go make dinner for the children |
| 00:59:09 | jhMikeS | S0ap: Somewhere on the boards or the wiki. I don't recall. |
| 00:59:59 | jhMikeS | I could always try another version of course. :) |
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| 01:00:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why not use Vorbis, since you've said it works? |
| 01:00:39 | S0ap | are you sure the click isn't caused by a drive with an extremely high read offset not corrected for in the ripping program? |
| 01:00:41 | jhMikeS | Paul: That's what I've taken to doing. |
| 01:00:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good plan. :) |
| 01:01:44 | jhMikeS | S0ap: If I rip to WAV, I get files that I can stitch together perfectly. The rips are right on with no gaps and the length mod 588 = 0. |
| 01:02:55 | jhMikeS | I use Exact Audio Copy and my drive rips with no errors or anything. Isn't that "accurate stream |
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| 01:03:11 | Harry | yo |
| 01:03:12 | Harry | paul |
| 01:03:23 | Harry | holding menu while pluging in usb |
| 01:03:29 | Harry | still maeks it goto disk mode |
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| 01:03:59 | linuxstb | Your ipod needs to be running Rockbox before you hold menu and insert USB. |
| 01:04:29 | * | jhMikeS I'm cooking dinner tonight...off to be chef |
| 01:04:32 | S0ap | jhMikeS - see pm, as we have drifted from a rockbox topic. |
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| 01:05:06 | jhMikeS | S0ap: I know, that why said it's not an issure for here. Be back later... |
| 01:05:20 | shirour | hi all |
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| 01:05:43 | shirour | i've been working on a port for olympus mrobe for quite a while |
| 01:05:50 | Landus | Anyone alive? |
| 01:05:58 | shirour | so far i've been able to write a driver for the lcd & remote |
| 01:06:04 | shirour | i've managed to load code to the memory and run it |
| 01:06:18 | shirour | my problem is that i don't seem to be able to get the hard drive to work.... |
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| 01:08:08 | sharpe | ahah! i have virtual memory mapping working. :D |
| 01:08:11 | shirour | anyone here has ever done it ? |
| 01:08:24 | Landus | When I'm trying to patch things and get a prompt asking "File to patch:" what do I type in? |
| 01:11:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:12:44 | linuxstb | shirour: What's the CPU? |
| 01:14:15 | Harry | linux |
| 01:14:19 | Harry | i was runnign rock box |
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| 01:16:05 | RaeNye | landus: try patch -p0 or patch -p1 |
| 01:17:16 | Landus | Neither works. |
| 01:17:24 | Landus | I keep on getting this error when running the patch |
| 01:17:26 | RaeNye | -p2? |
| 01:17:32 | Landus | Uh, let me try. |
| 01:17:51 | Landus | Nope. Same error. |
| 01:18:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landus: It depends on where you run the patch from, because the patch tries to look for the files in certain places (you can see what file it's looking for, and where it's expecting it relative to where you are in the text on screen when it gives you that message) |
| 01:18:08 | Landus | Can't file file to patch at input line <blah> |
| 01:18:09 | RaeNye | you can also read the patchfile and see the level of the files inside |
| 01:18:22 | earHertz | linuxstb: ? |
| 01:18:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: Holding Menu while inserting the USB cable works. Have you tried it in an official build, or are you using one of the patched/modified builds from the forums? |
| 01:18:54 | Landus | I've tried copying it to the first directory that the patch modifies the .c file, but it doesn't change anything |
| 01:19:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landus: Usually the patch command should be run from the /rockbox/ folder (The one that has tools, etc, in it) |
| 01:19:21 | RaeNye | BTW, I don't mean you should write "patch -p0" in response to the "File to patch:" prompt, if you understood it that way |
| 01:19:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Maybe /rockbox-devel/ |
| 01:19:54 | Landus | It's /rockbox, and I tried the first time around. |
| 01:20:25 | Landus | This is what's at the line where I get the first error. |
| 01:20:26 | Landus | @@ -430,7 +430,7 @@ |
| 01:20:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landus: Then type the path and filename in yourself when it prompts you for the file to apply it to. |
| 01:21:26 | RaeNye | Bye everyone! |
| 01:21:33 | Harry | paul |
| 01:21:37 | Harry | im runnign rockbox |
| 01:21:37 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
| 01:21:39 | Harry | im holdign menu |
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| 01:21:43 | Harry | adn i plug usb cable in |
| 01:21:47 | Harry | adn it still goes to diskmode |
| 01:21:48 | Landus | What do I do if HUNK #1 and HUNK #2 fails? |
| 01:22:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: I told you, it works in the official builds. Are you using one of those, or a modified one from the forums? |
| 01:22:19 | linuxstb | earHertz: ? |
| 01:22:42 | earHertz | linuxstb: how should we be using teh IRAM? entirely for dsta? |
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| 01:23:08 | Landus | Paul_The_Nerd: I did what you said, and after awhile, it started patching without the prompts, but I got alot of HUNKs that failed. |
| 01:23:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landus: Probably an out of date patch then. |
| 01:23:30 | Landus | Is it possible that it's because it's a .diff file? |
| 01:23:42 | earHertz | Landus: NO |
| 01:23:53 | Landus | Okay. |
| 01:24:07 | linuxstb | earHertz: I don't think anyone is sure - given a lack of documentation, all we can do is experiment. |
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| 01:24:31 | linuxstb | But my experience seems to say that it's better to use it for data. |
| 01:24:37 | Landus | I got the patch here. |
| 01:24:38 | Landus | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 |
| 01:24:43 | Landus | Is it out of date? |
| 01:24:57 | linuxstb | earHertz: Although in some cases, putting data in iram has slowed things down... |
| 01:25:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Landus: Well, the date on it is about a month old |
| 01:25:07 | Harry | paul |
| 01:25:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: What? |
| 01:25:14 | Harry | im using pblackglass build |
| 01:25:20 | Harry | form the forums |
| 01:25:21 | linuxstb | (I'm thinking of when I was experimenting optimising pacbox) |
| 01:25:25 | Harry | for julis wps |
| 01:25:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: Then ask there if the button has been changed in that build. |
| 01:25:53 | Harry | omg |
| 01:25:55 | Harry | :( |
| 01:26:01 | Harry | -_- |
| 01:26:05 | earHertz | we currently put mmecpy in IRAM |
| 01:26:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: What? |
| 01:26:38 | linuxstb | earHertz: You mean for the other targets? |
| 01:26:45 | linuxstb | (e.g. Coldfire) |
| 01:27:32 | earHertz | for ipod (and any oNo, wait, I'm incorrect. we do NOT |
| 01:27:51 | S0ap | I don't think Harry can sit still long enough to wait for a forum reply. |
| 01:28:53 | Harry | lmfao |
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| 01:31:09 | Harry | man we barely have any wps |
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| 01:31:13 | Harry | for ipod 5g |
| 01:31:15 | Harry | that look good |
| 01:31:19 | Harry | only like 2or 4 them |
| 01:31:21 | Harry | look good |
| 01:31:30 | earHertz | wps aren't supposed to look good |
| 01:31:34 | Harry | irviver onces ahve so many |
| 01:31:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: So make some. |
| 01:31:44 | Harry | paul |
| 01:31:48 | Harry | ill gfx it |
| 01:31:49 | Harry | u code it |
| 01:31:52 | Harry | :) |
| 01:31:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | No |
| 01:32:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | The WPS code is really easy anyway. It's just a bunch of tokens, primarily. |
| 01:32:20 | Harry | thn |
| 01:32:23 | Harry | then u can code |
| 01:32:25 | Harry | while gfx |
| 01:32:26 | Harry | :) |
| 01:32:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | And why can't you do the code? |
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| 01:32:40 | Harry | casu ei suck at programign |
| 01:32:41 | Harry | adn codeing |
| 01:32:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have you made a WPS before? |
| 01:33:10 | Harry | no |
| 01:33:14 | Harry | nad i dont plan on it |
| 01:33:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then how do you know that you suck at it? |
| 01:33:26 | Harry | im to lazy |
| 01:33:27 | Harry | ::) |
| 01:33:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | And everyone who's too lazy, just like you, is exactly why the 5G hasn't got as many WPSes as the H300 |
| 01:33:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | More active community, and all that jazz. |
| 01:33:58 | BigMac | hi can i ask about jbuild? whenever i scroll fast it skips to the bottom. i think this is the scroll accelerator. how do i turn it of? |
| 01:34:05 | BigMac | off |
| 01:34:20 | linuxstb | Search the settings |
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| 01:34:44 | Harry | bigmac yah i got the same problem |
| 01:34:44 | linuxstb | (I don't know if you can turn it off, but if you can, that will be how) |
| 01:35:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | You're much more likely to find answers about jbuild in the jblackglass thread. |
| 01:35:49 | BigMac | i know im posting there now i just wanted to see if anyone knew it about it so i could get a more instantaneous answer |
| 01:35:50 | Harry | o |
| 01:36:00 | Harry | hwo do i enable gayless palypack |
| 01:36:02 | Harry | bac* |
| 01:36:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | You don't. |
| 01:36:16 | BigMac | gayless? |
| 01:36:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | If the songs are encoded properly, they playback gaplessly. |
| 01:36:25 | Harry | lmfao |
| 01:36:29 | Harry | gapless* |
| 01:36:30 | BigMac | maybe listen to a different tupe of music? |
| 01:36:33 | BigMac | ohh |
| 01:36:35 | BigMac | type |
| 01:36:40 | S0ap | BigMac - just set the settings for the second and third setting of the scrollwheelaccelerator patch above 250, you'll like it better. |
| 01:36:52 | BigMac | how? |
| 01:36:56 | BigMac | i cant find it in the setting? |
| 01:36:58 | S0ap | (what an ugly sentence) |
| 01:37:00 | BigMac | settings |
| 01:37:20 | BigMac | what is it under? |
| 01:37:37 | S0ap | you won't break anything, look, I don't have my ipod infront of me. I navigate by muscle memory, not vision. |
| 01:37:57 | earHertz | S0ap: to just turn it off? |
| 01:38:08 | earHertz | BigMac: General settings |
| 01:38:17 | earHertz | Ipod scroll wheel accel |
| 01:38:24 | BigMac | im looking |
| 01:38:26 | BigMac | im not seeing |
| 01:38:32 | Harry | bigmac |
| 01:38:36 | Harry | generalsettigns |
| 01:38:39 | Harry | display |
| 01:38:40 | Harry | scroll |
| 01:39:00 | BigMac | change scroll speed? |
| 01:39:03 | earHertz | No, no |
| 01:39:22 | BigMac | paged scroll? |
| 01:39:50 | earHertz | BigMac: do you just not want scroll accel at all? |
| 01:39:56 | BigMac | what do i change |
| 01:40:10 | BigMac | well is scroll accel what im describing |
| 01:40:33 | BigMac | after scrolling for a few seconds it jump all the way to the bottom |
| 01:40:38 | earHertz | BigMac: menu| general settings|system|ipod scroll wheel accel |
| 01:40:41 | BigMac | but i only have 90 songs |
| 01:40:59 | earHertz | Diod you compile your own build? |
| 01:41:04 | BigMac | no |
| 01:41:07 | BigMac | jbuild |
| 01:41:11 | BigMac | ok im at that menu |
| 01:41:17 | BigMac | how do i get rid of it |
| 01:41:34 | earHertz | ok, go in there arnd for each accel threshold, set it to 250 |
| 01:41:58 | earHertz | Nobody like my scroll accel |
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| 01:42:22 | BigMac | i dont have enough songs to use it |
| 01:42:23 | S0ap | earHertz: it is your hack? |
| 01:42:26 | BigMac | i understand it |
| 01:42:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Hey! I don't dislike it! (I have not tried it....) |
| 01:42:28 | earHertz | yeah |
| 01:42:34 | BigMac | its just i have 90 songs |
| 01:42:43 | earHertz | no, it's ok, I don't like it eithert |
| 01:42:49 | BigMac | i dont need to go fast through it |
| 01:42:55 | BigMac | if i had 100 id like it |
| 01:43:20 | BigMac | it still does it |
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| 01:43:26 | S0ap | it seems to get twitchy (for lack of a better work) sometimes, I'd give you a proper description/bug report if I could reproduce it on a consistant basis, for all I know it's me. |
| 01:43:26 | BigMac | it just takes longer |
| 01:44:28 | BigMac | earhertz:its still doing it |
| 01:44:32 | earHertz | S0ap: yuou're using julius's build? |
| 01:44:39 | BigMac | cant i just turn it off |
| 01:44:40 | BigMac | i am |
| 01:44:52 | earHertz | No, it has no provision for turning off |
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| 01:45:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | It wasn't meant to be used yet anyway, was it? |
| 01:45:12 | BigMac | so if i set it really high it wont work? |
| 01:45:15 | earHertz | It's experimental |
| 01:45:25 | earHertz | BigMac: yeah, pretty much |
| 01:45:27 | S0ap | earHertz - I have. |
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| 01:46:13 | BigMac | sweet |
| 01:46:18 | BigMac | i set it all to 500 |
| 01:46:30 | BigMac | does j build have album aart built iin |
| 01:46:36 | BigMac | art built in |
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| 01:49:10 | Harry | so bigmac |
| 01:49:11 | Harry | u fidn out |
| 01:49:22 | BigMac | yes |
| 01:49:29 | Harry | man |
| 01:49:33 | BigMac | i set it all to 500 |
| 01:49:34 | Harry | how do i not boot diskmode |
| 01:49:40 | BigMac | now im good |
| 01:49:42 | BigMac | not? |
| 01:49:45 | Harry | yah |
| 01:49:46 | Harry | like |
| 01:49:52 | Harry | if i connect usb in rockbox |
| 01:49:56 | Harry | it goes to diskmode |
| 01:50:04 | BigMac | oh |
| 01:50:14 | BigMac | i think it auto does that |
| 01:50:22 | BigMac | a patch perhaps..? |
| 01:50:31 | Harry | no |
| 01:50:31 | BigMac | im not sure im relatively new to rockbox |
| 01:50:38 | Harry | paul said if u push a combination it doesnt |
| 01:50:42 | Harry | same |
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| 01:51:23 | Harry | paul it works |
| 01:51:27 | Harry | just u cant transfer songs |
| 01:51:29 | Harry | thats gay |
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| 01:51:50 | BigMac | tee hee |
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| 01:52:22 | BigMac | i named my ipod drive I and my ipod Pod so it reads Pod(I:) |
| 01:52:26 | BigMac | get it |
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| 01:52:51 | S0ap | all my gadgets have proper biblical names |
| 01:53:18 | BigMac | lol seriously? |
| 01:54:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: If it doesn't enter Disk Mode, why on earth would you expect to be able to transfer songs? |
| 01:54:21 | S0ap | ipod = Samuel |
| 01:54:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why would we even *have* it go into Disk Mode if you could transfer songs without it? |
| 01:54:43 | Harry | lol |
| 01:54:47 | Harry | so this is jsut for pwoer? |
| 01:54:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 01:55:03 | Harry | -_- |
| 01:55:22 | BigMac | is their anyway to change the diskmode icon, like you can in apple os? |
| 01:56:08 | linuxstb | You can do anything - the source code is there for all to see and change. |
| 01:58:39 | S0ap | I want a nekkid lady! |
| 01:59:02 | Harry | lol |
| 01:59:05 | Harry | for the bootsplash? |
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| 01:59:42 | S0ap | that too! |
| 02:00 |
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| 02:14:14 | Harry | man |
| 02:14:29 | Harry | we should be able to change the bootsplash by our self |
| 02:14:33 | Harry | with otu coding |
| 02:15:20 | sharpe | then you should do everyone a favor and implement it. |
| 02:15:26 | Harry | lol |
| 02:15:26 | Harry | no |
| 02:15:39 | sharpe | too bad then. |
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| 02:23:28 | S0ap | I love how it's not "I might look into that and see how deep I'd be getting in", rather it's " |
| 02:23:31 | S0ap | no" |
| 02:23:46 | sharpe | yep. |
| 02:24:13 | BigMac | hey guys us there a description of what each of the audio effects do? |
| 02:24:40 | S0ap | for I am no C coder, but that should actually be nothing more than the swap of a bitmap before compile, and there are excellent docs on that in the wiki/google cache |
| 02:24:49 | linuxstb | BigMac: The manual? |
| 02:24:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Yes, actually there is! It's called a "Manual" |
| 02:25:13 | BigMac | it tells me what the audio effects do? |
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| 02:25:43 | S0ap | read it BigMac, and if you still have a question someone will help. |
| 02:25:43 | linuxstb | BigMac: What do you expect the manual to say? |
| 02:25:54 | linuxstb | It describes how Rockbox works... |
| 02:26:35 | S0ap | or google for the terms like "crossfeed" you'll get excellent defs on all of them. |
| 02:27:05 | BigMac | ok thank you both |
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| 02:27:23 | S0ap | I doubt anybody wants to type in a four paragraph explination of ReplayGain (suffice to say it is cool) when there are so many good docs on it. |
| 02:28:02 | chris1 | I've got a n00b rockbox question here, any plug-in to allow syncing between my Canon 350D to the H120? |
| 02:28:31 | chris1 | Also, any good site for themes? H120 |
| 02:29:08 | earHertz | does teh error message "Prefetch abort" mean anything to anyone? |
| 02:29:29 | earHertz | at FFFDFFFC |
| 02:29:57 | BigMac | alight i have jbuild on my pod 5g (which has the rockbox patch embedded in it), and i run all my music from a folder called myTUNES. now if i put them all into folders that correspond to there album, could i put the album art named cover.bmp into each folder and it would show up as the album art? |
| 02:30:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | chris1: The H120 can't serve as a USB host |
| 02:30:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Is that how the description of the album art patch tells you to do it? |
| 02:31:51 | BigMac | im checking the thread |
| 02:32:07 | BigMac | idk if i have to do it in id3 cache or what |
| 02:32:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Might I suggest that you search the whole forum for "Album Art" as it's a separate patch, and so instructions may not go with build information |
| 02:33:10 | BigMac | i did |
| 02:33:23 | chris1 | Thanks Paul |
| 02:33:35 | BigMac | but there is many results and im not sure which ones are for jbuild |
| 02:33:37 | linuxstb | earHertz: I think it means the CPU is attempting to run code at an invalid memory address. |
| 02:33:53 | linuxstb | Maybe, for example, the stack is being corrupted. |
| 02:34:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: I doubt Julius has modified the album art patch any |
| 02:35:46 | * | linuxstb goes to sleep. |
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| 02:37:23 | earHertz | linuxstb: thanks |
| 02:37:48 | Landus | Does anyone know where .fnt files would go, or should I just drop them in .rockbox? |
| 02:38:56 | midkay | /.rockbox/fonts |
| 02:39:03 | midkay | then "Browse fonts" in general settings-display. |
| 02:39:48 | earHertz | I wish linuxstb hadn't gone to sleep |
| 02:40:35 | earHertz | How can I tell the address in mmeory of a function, from the map |
| 02:41:12 | Landus | midkay: Thanks |
| 02:41:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Look at the map |
| 02:41:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'll have a start address for the function |
| 02:41:24 | midkay | np, Landus. |
| 02:41:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it's between that and the next start address, it falls within that function |
| 02:41:39 | BigMac | can you have blue 5g green 5g and jblackglass allinstalled at the same time? |
| 02:42:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're just themes, so you can switch between 'em. |
| 02:42:30 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: thanks |
| 02:42:50 | BigMac | can i have them all on my pod though |
| 02:42:57 | BigMac | or is it one or the other? |
| 02:44:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: You can switch themes with the "Browse Themes" option... |
| 02:46:06 | BigMac | oh i got confused |
| 02:46:07 | Harry | bigmac i thoguth that too until i figured out u can have as many as u wnat |
| 02:46:18 | BigMac | sorry i really suck at this |
| 02:46:33 | BigMac | is their a list of what roms work in rockboy |
| 02:46:49 | Harry | is ther a doom for rockbox |
| 02:46:53 | BigMac | because any that uses b is pretty useless |
| 02:46:55 | BigMac | yes |
| 02:47:03 | Harry | linky:) |
| 02:48:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's built in... |
| 02:48:10 | BigMac | http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/PluginDoom/ download rockdoom and doom1 place the wads in drive:games/doom |
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| 02:53:07 | BigMac | paul what was that you said i needed to do to get a font to work on rockbox |
| 02:53:15 | BigMac | what converters did i need? |
| 02:54:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fontforge, or something else, to convert from TTF to BDF, then the bdf converting too included in the rockbox sources |
| 02:55:16 | BigMac | k |
| 02:55:34 | Landus | What does it mean when "Dir buffer is full"? |
| 02:56:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | It means you haven't increased the limit yet, and you've entered a folder with 400+ files in it |
| 02:56:39 | Landus | How do I increase the limit? |
| 02:57:00 | BigMac | nvm i wont be making fonts |
| 02:57:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's in the options somewhere. Under "Limits", under maybe General? |
| 02:57:08 | BigMac | to install it i have to use cgywin |
| 02:57:18 | midgey34 | general settings > system > limits > max files in dir browser |
| 02:57:25 | BigMac | and i dont have a very high succsess rate with that program |
| 02:57:54 | Landus | Paul_The_Nerd: Got it. Thanks. |
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| 02:58:29 | Landus | Craaap. |
| 02:58:41 | Landus | Now when I enter that folder, my player freezes. |
| 03:00 |
| 03:01:27 | Landus | Oh crap. |
| 03:01:33 | Landus | My player isn't responding. |
| 03:01:38 | Landus | I can't shut it off or nothing. |
| 03:01:48 | midgey34 | you'll have to reset |
| 03:01:56 | Landus | How? |
| 03:02:02 | midgey34 | h3x0? |
| 03:03:40 | BigMac | wait |
| 03:03:53 | BigMac | does rockboy emulate gb or gbc |
| 03:04:04 | midgey34 | BigMac: both |
| 03:04:16 | BigMac | really |
| 03:04:18 | midgey34 | gbc will probably be slower though |
| 03:04:22 | Landus | How do I set the limit so I can view all the files in a directory, but not have the player freeze on me? |
| 03:04:24 | BigMac | k |
| 03:04:43 | midgey34 | what did you set the limit to? |
| 03:04:53 | Landus | I maxed it. |
| 03:05:11 | BigMac | does anyone have any gameboy roms |
| 03:05:56 | midgey34 | yah thats not a good idea |
| 03:06:05 | midgey34 | set it to something sane like 800 |
| 03:09:50 | BigMac | i cant find plain gb roms anywere:-( |
| 03:11:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:11:57 | BigMac | what is .sgb? |
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| 03:16:33 | midgey34 | thats a gameboy game that has some special features when played on a suber gameboy(snes) or emulator that supports it |
| 03:16:43 | midgey34 | otherwise it acts like a regular game |
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| 03:19:15 | BigMac | so will it work in rockboy? |
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| 03:20:00 | midgey34 | I think so, just rename it to .gb |
| 03:20:53 | midgey34 | any dev interested in helping me track down two bugs in the blackjack code |
| 03:21:21 | BigMac | i would but im not a dev |
| 03:22:09 | BigMac | anyone remember the name of that nes game with the two people on balloons and you try to pop eachothers baloons |
| 03:22:13 | BigMac | i cant remember it |
| 03:22:16 | midgey34 | ballon fight? |
| 03:22:42 | BigMac | yes |
| 03:22:47 | BigMac | that is the game |
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| 03:26:59 | earHertz | any devs here? |
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| 03:27:37 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: are you a dev/ |
| 03:28:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm. I thought you'd already asked me that. |
| 03:28:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope. |
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| 03:30:35 | earHertz | sorry |
| 03:30:58 | BigMac | wow |
| 03:31:05 | BigMac | what is the point of rockboy |
| 03:31:20 | BigMac | there isnt enough buttons for everything |
| 03:31:54 | midgey34 | other targets have enough buttons... |
| 03:32:26 | BigMac | what? |
| 03:32:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: It's nothing to be sorry 'bout. It's a very common question is all, so I tend to assume I've been asked already. |
| 03:32:41 | BigMac | you cant use 2 of the buttons |
| 03:32:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Other Rockbox-able players have more than enough buttons. |
| 03:32:55 | BigMac | oh |
| 03:33:01 | BigMac | got it |
| 03:33:17 | BigMac | well that kinda sucks but what ever |
| 03:33:29 | BigMac | who needs start and select anyway |
| 03:33:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | It only sucks because you bought a player without enough buttons. |
| 03:33:52 | BigMac | i didnt buy it for games. |
| 03:34:03 | BigMac | if i wanted games id have mot a psp |
| 03:34:11 | BigMac | bought |
| 03:34:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup. I play gameboy games on a gameboy |
| 03:34:55 | BigMac | yah i just wanted to test it out |
| 03:37:56 | BigMac | does rockboy play gbc files? |
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| 03:38:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 03:38:04 | JdGordon | the h300 is great for rockboy, excpe tht ebuttongs kill your fingers after a while |
| 03:38:24 | BigMac | yah i have a 5g |
| 03:38:39 | JdGordon | ye, i wouldnt think the ipod layout would be good for rockboy |
| 03:38:51 | JdGordon | the h100 is worse tho |
| 03:39:18 | BigMac | ok and the directory for the roms is drive:games/gameboy/xyz.gb |
| 03:39:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's anywhere you want 'em |
| 03:39:31 | BigMac | and that is all i need to dl |
| 03:39:34 | BigMac | oh |
| 03:41:02 | BigMac | lol |
| 03:41:09 | BigMac | bubble bobble is out |
| 03:41:15 | BigMac | i need to pres start |
| 03:42:19 | S0ap | <sarcasm>What I need to to is port mozilla's mouse-gestures over for the ipod, that would replace the missing buttons!</s> |
| 03:43:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 03:43:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well iBoy has a good scheme. |
| 03:43:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I even think there's a patch that enables it for Rockboy. |
| 03:43:33 | BigMac | not for the ipod |
| 03:43:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: iBoy has a great scheme for the iPod. Have you tried it? |
| 03:43:55 | BigMac | yes |
| 03:44:00 | BigMac | i just tried it |
| 03:44:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | The one from iPodLinux? |
| 03:44:05 | BigMac | oh no |
| 03:44:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | iBoy, NOT Rockboy |
| 03:44:23 | BigMac | why cant someone make them both have the same controls |
| 03:44:40 | * | Paul_The_Nerd points to the place where he used their names separately clearly indicating they are two distinct things, AND the fact that there's a patch that implements iBoy's controls for Rockboy. |
| 03:44:56 | BigMac | there is? |
| 03:45:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | I believe so. |
| 03:45:22 | JdGordon | rockboy has configurable keys anyway |
| 03:45:41 | BigMac | yah but it is buggy |
| 03:45:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Configurable keys don't help much when you only have 5 buttons. |
| 03:46:33 | BigMac | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?tasks=&project=1&string=rockboy&type=4&sev=&due=&dev=&cat=&status=&date=0 which one 4857 or 5424 |
| 03:47:03 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: anything happening with the forum rearanging and the new groups? |
| 03:47:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: I'm waiting to see if Jeff ever responds to my email about a few things. |
| 03:48:05 | BigMac | *patch |
| 03:48:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: I don't know. Try one and find out, or read the descriptions. |
| 03:48:46 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 03:49:20 | * | JdGordon wonders why MR is hosting the forums and not the same servers as rockbox.org |
| 03:49:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because Jeff offered to, if I understand. |
| 03:50:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I still haven't found a good way to contact him. I emailed jeff@misticriver.net, because that's what their site told me to email to, but I think he may not read that. |
| 03:50:56 | JdGordon | patients.. its prob filled with spam seen as its linked on the MR site, also he comes on here every so often i think |
| 03:51:18 | JdGordon | pm on the forums maybe? |
| 03:51:26 | JdGordon | anyway, im off |
| 03:51:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I don't get a response by monday, I'll try alternative means of communication, yeah. |
| 03:52:23 | earHertz | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5285.0 |
| 03:55:33 | BigMac | what does speech support do? |
| 03:55:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | It reads the menus to you. |
| 03:55:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, when it's working well, it does. |
| 03:56:03 | earHertz | I have Paul_The_Nerd's voice to read my menus |
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| 03:56:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Is there any time Headbytes is not equal to 1? That's a very long list. |
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| 03:56:41 | Harry | yo |
| 03:56:43 | Harry | does rockbox |
| 03:56:48 | Harry | support pdf viewing |
| 03:57:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | No |
| 03:57:07 | Harry | dam |
| 03:57:14 | Harry | so jpegs |
| 03:57:16 | Harry | and audio |
| 03:57:18 | Harry | thats all |
| 03:57:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | So far. |
| 03:57:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | And text files |
| 03:57:31 | Harry | hmm |
| 03:57:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | It *is* an Audio Player. |
| 03:57:39 | Harry | paul convert the munaul into text for me |
| 03:57:42 | Harry | :) |
| 03:57:49 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: I don';t see one, but I only have 4000 lines of logf, and all got filled |
| 03:57:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, it's in Latex in the sources, so you can have it convert to a lot of formats. |
| 03:57:58 | Harry | yo |
| 03:58:00 | BigMac | so if your visually impared? |
| 03:58:00 | earHertz | (I upped it from the standard 1000) |
| 03:58:05 | Harry | anyoen want cucusoft ipod converter |
| 03:58:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Primarily, yes. |
| 03:58:06 | Harry | full |
| 03:58:21 | BigMac | i like videora |
| 03:58:23 | BigMac | free |
| 03:58:28 | Harry | cucsoft |
| 03:58:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: That's commercial software. |
| 03:58:36 | Harry | converts a full mvoie in 20-30 mintues |
| 03:58:44 | BigMac | so does videora |
| 03:58:51 | Harry | paul u have to pay for cucosft full |
| 03:58:58 | Harry | i can give u full cracked verison |
| 03:58:59 | Harry | bigmac |
| 03:59:06 | Harry | no videora take as long as the movie |
| 03:59:13 | BigMac | nope |
| 03:59:13 | earHertz | Harry: we're not intrested in warez here |
| 03:59:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: That's what I'm talking about. DO NOT DISCUSS CRACKED OR ILLEGAL SOFTWARE HERE> |
| 03:59:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Period |
| 03:59:20 | Harry | o |
| 03:59:21 | Harry | srrrry |
| 03:59:33 | Harry | paul can u link me to the txt rockbox manul |
| 03:59:50 | BigMac | you could look on the site mate |
| 03:59:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: I told you, it's LaTeX in the sources, which can probably be easily converted to text. I don't think there's a .txt of it. |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:07 | Harry | wtfs latex |
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| 04:00:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: http://www.latex-project.org/ |
| 04:00:44 | wehn_ | quick Q: Is it intensional that "bookmark on stop" only bookmarks if you stop from the WPS screen, not from filetree? |
| 04:01:00 | Harry | paul link me to the latex version |
| 04:01:45 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: we should have an html mamnual |
| 04:01:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: As I said, it's in the sources. Download the source archive. |
| 04:02:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | wehn_: Probably a bug. |
| 04:02:34 | wehn_ | Paul_The_Nerd: shall I add it? |
| 04:02:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: There's a wiki manual, but the wiki's down. A HTML manual might be nice, as well as a simple HTML viewing plugin to make it fun to read. |
| 04:02:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | wehn_: Probably a good idea. |
| 04:03:22 | Harry | yo |
| 04:03:27 | Harry | i converted the pdf manul to txt |
| 04:03:30 | Harry | if anyone wants it |
| 04:03:42 | Harry | you shpould put it in the daily rockbox build |
| 04:03:47 | Harry | so people read it |
| 04:04:06 | Harry | paul |
| 04:04:10 | Harry | how do i view txt |
| 04:04:10 | earHertz | Harry can you host it and provide a link? |
| 04:04:14 | Harry | one sec |
| 04:04:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Why should a text version of the manual be in the dailies, if the pdf is available from the daily build page? |
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| 04:04:50 | Harry | http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 |
| 04:04:51 | Harry | http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 |
| 04:04:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not something people should have to download more than once. |
| 04:04:56 | Harry | paul |
| 04:05:03 | Harry | cause then epople can view on the rockbox |
| 04:05:14 | earHertz | he does have a point |
| 04:05:20 | Harry | http://www.sendspace.com/file/ten9n4 <−−−−−−−−−−−−−−- txt |
| 04:05:22 | Harry | no images |
| 04:05:32 | Harry | paul its on the go manul |
| 04:05:33 | Harry | jsu tincase |
| 04:05:56 | Harry | yo i created a ipod ico |
| 04:06:02 | Harry | to show up in my computer |
| 04:06:07 | Harry | as a utorun |
| 04:06:24 | BHSPitMonkey | the one I use for an autorun probably looks better |
| 04:06:30 | Harry | show me |
| 04:06:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't think it's really that necessary or useful to have a manual on the iPod or player. |
| 04:06:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Most people who know about the manual, have already looked stuff up in it. |
| 04:06:41 | Harry | paul it is |
| 04:06:43 | Harry | on the go |
| 04:06:51 | Harry | and people will see it mroe |
| 04:06:56 | Harry | cause it will be in ther root |
| 04:07:08 | Harry | bhs |
| 04:07:10 | Harry | bhsp |
| 04:07:13 | Harry | can u me ur icon |
| 04:07:18 | Harry | wats ur aim |
| 04:07:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: Please, can you try to use whole words? |
| 04:07:31 | Harry | lol |
| 04:07:34 | BigMac | wait i can view txt files on my pod? |
| 04:07:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's TWO more letters, and it helps for people who have to use translation software. |
| 04:07:43 | earHertz | Harry: what's your native langauge? |
| 04:07:44 | Harry | big mac thorw rockbox |
| 04:08:07 | Harry | ear indian first then english then french |
| 04:08:32 | S0ap | Did I miss the secret? Why is the manual in PDF? |
| 04:08:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | S0ap: Because LaTeX likes being converted to PDF? |
| 04:08:49 | Harry | to shwo images |
| 04:09:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are automated converters from LaTeX->HTML as well as I'm sure TXT, so it could be added into the build process to create a manual to include easily from the format we have. |
| 04:09:22 | S0ap | is the original latex in the CVS you say? |
| 04:09:40 | S0ap | Much easier to read HTML on my palmpilot. |
| 04:09:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | S0ap: Indeed it is, in the manual module. In fact with any build target, you can choose (M)anual instead of (N)ormal to make it if you have the packages installed |
| 04:10:53 | BigMac | ok i opened the text and now i have a black screen |
| 04:10:55 | BigMac | on my pod |
| 04:10:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | To make the PDF one rather |
| 04:11:14 | Harry | i donno paul said it supports txt |
| 04:11:31 | BigMac | well it doesn't |
| 04:11:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | It does. |
| 04:11:39 | Harry | how |
| 04:11:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | You click on a .txt file |
| 04:11:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's it. |
| 04:11:50 | Harry | then how come bigs |
| 04:11:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | But it could be that his background and foreground colors are both black |
| 04:11:57 | BigMac | it does not support a file that large then |
| 04:12:03 | Harry | then how come bigs came out ina blacks creen |
| 04:12:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think there is a limit on text file size, but I think it's more than 226k |
| 04:12:45 | BigMac | well it didnt load |
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| 04:12:53 | BigMac | the screen went black |
| 04:13:43 | S0ap | maybe it is one of the 15 patches of your custom build... |
| 04:14:01 | Harry | lol |
| 04:14:07 | Harry | soap try tit on ures |
| 04:14:07 | BigMac | idk could be |
| 04:14:09 | Harry | it* |
| 04:14:18 | BigMac | yes |
| 04:14:24 | Harry | yo how do i change the fonts colour |
| 04:14:36 | BigMac | harry |
| 04:14:48 | Harry | yah |
| 04:14:55 | BigMac | why do you say yo so often? |
| 04:15:00 | Harry | lol |
| 04:15:01 | Harry | i donno |
| 04:15:02 | BigMac | it is wierd |
| 04:15:02 | Harry | habit |
| 04:15:09 | Harry | okay how do i change fotns colour |
| 04:15:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Looks like the file is too big. |
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| 04:15:38 | earHertz | Harry: general settings | displat | lcd |
| 04:15:48 | S0ap | last thing I'll say before going to bed, BigMac - you might want to consider installing a stock daily build until you are comfortable with what-is-what, it will not only help people help you, but it will hasten _your_ learning process. |
| 04:16:16 | BigMac | i like j blackglass |
| 04:16:25 | BigMac | and the doom scroll patch |
| 04:16:31 | BigMac | and i cant patch myself |
| 04:16:38 | BigMac | so i dont have many other options |
| 04:16:54 | S0ap | for you don't know if you are chasing a problem with your usage, a patch, or rockbox. Switching to a daily can eliminate one of those variables, making the math much easier. |
| 04:17:26 | BigMac | well we found out my pod is fine the text was just to big |
| 04:17:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually no |
| 04:17:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | The text is fine |
| 04:17:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not too big |
| 04:17:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | It starts with whitespace. |
| 04:17:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | So it triggers the whitespace bug. |
| 04:17:58 | BigMac | Paul_The_NerdLooks like the file is too big. |
| 04:18:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, but I was WRONG when I said that. |
| 04:18:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | It happens |
| 04:18:10 | earHertz | ws bug? |
| 04:18:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | I investigated further, and found the real problem |
| 04:18:26 | BigMac | so what do we need to do to fix it/ |
| 04:18:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: The text viewer doesn't work with files that start with whitespace for some reason. It *may* have been fixed in the newest CVS, I seem to recall something. Mine's a couple days old |
| 04:18:57 | earHertz | lol |
| 04:19:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope, it's not fixed |
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| 04:19:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just checked the changelog, no recent changes to viewer.c |
| 04:19:15 | BigMac | it doesnt start with whitepace though... |
| 04:19:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Yes, it does. |
| 04:19:32 | BigMac | you mean the indent? |
| 04:19:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes. |
| 04:19:57 | BigMac | so if we unindent it it will work? |
| 04:19:58 | earHertz | space, tab, linefeed vertical tab |
| 04:20:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Yes, if the first letter of the whole document is an actual letter or number, it'll be fine. |
| 04:20:16 | earHertz | BigMac: just nmake sure it sharts with a character |
| 04:21:10 | BigMac | anyone else digging on the tower of power |
| 04:21:42 | S0ap | I zipped up |
| 04:21:51 | S0ap | so stop looking |
| 04:22:30 | BigMac | sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 04:22:35 | BigMac | looks nice |
| 04:22:48 | BigMac | i have a black background and white text |
| 04:23:18 | BigMac | this will be handy for using guides |
| 04:23:32 | BigMac | is their a way to go from ebook to .txt |
| 04:25:09 | earHertz | BigMac depends on teh ebook format |
| 04:25:38 | BigMac | pdf |
| 04:27:10 | BigMac | i just copied and pasted everything |
| 04:27:56 | S0ap | the program to convert .lit files to HTML and CSS is called clit. |
| 04:28:05 | BigMac | lmaooooo |
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| 04:28:40 | BigMac | ok i know have the anarchists cookbook on my pod |
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| 04:29:47 | BigMac | are .txt the only readable file formats |
| 04:29:51 | BigMac | what about html |
| 04:30:25 | S0ap | if your brain can do the markup... |
| 04:31:32 | BigMac | what do you mean coding a reader or making a html document? |
| 04:32:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | He means that HTML is just TXT with tokens in it. |
| 04:32:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you just imagine that <br> means a new line and so on, no reason you can't read HTML |
| 04:32:54 | BigMac | but can it read it like it would be on a webpage |
| 04:33:17 | BigMac | because it very hard to distinguish headings in a .txt |
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| 04:33:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clearly it can't if we're telling you that you'd have to imagine it... |
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| 04:34:27 | BigMac | oh i didnt catch that |
| 04:36:10 | BigMac | i hate how. txt has no shortcuts |
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| 05:27:43 | afruff | What happened with the july 10th, 16:22 build ? |
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| 05:29:43 | sharpe | it compiled? |
| 05:31:57 | afruff | it ahs a bunch of red boxes on it at the CVS build page |
| 05:31:59 | afruff | has* |
| 05:32:05 | sharpe | then it didn't compile. |
| 05:32:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | The red's all on a 3 day old build |
| 05:33:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's no red on the latest build... |
| 05:33:16 | sharpe | exactly. |
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| 05:36:07 | afruff | If a patch was commited to CVS at 21:34, then would the 21:35 build have it? |
| 05:36:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | The build can take a few minutes. |
| 05:36:31 | sharpe | they're not instant... |
| 05:36:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you click the date next to the build, it tells you the commit that started that build |
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| 05:38:21 | afruff | The latest 21:35 build does have the 21:34 commit |
| 05:38:28 | afruff | the subline fix |
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| 05:54:46 | I_stephen | Heya guys |
| 05:54:58 | I_stephen | Just thought I'd offer you a bit of moral support |
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| 05:55:43 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 05:56:23 | I_stephen | it really makes my blood boil when websites like yours are defaced. Rockbox is a product that works for people who are blind, and nutcases like the one who hacked your website last week really ruin all the fun for everybody |
| 05:56:38 | NHeal | (timeout) kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 05:56:50 | I_stephen | I am a totally blind computer user |
| 05:57:34 | earHertz | not a nutcase. a spammer |
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| 05:57:45 | I_stephen | they're just as bad |
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| 05:57:53 | earHertz | yeah |
| 05:57:54 | I_stephen | a spamming nutcase |
| 05:58:00 | earHertz | so you use the voice menus? |
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| 05:58:15 | I_stephen | Not yet, I need an ipod to try it out on |
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| 05:58:37 | I_stephen | I have a creative muvo fm mp3 player |
| 05:58:45 | I_stephen | unfortunately rockbox won't work with that |
| 05:58:45 | earHertz | oh |
| 05:59:29 | I_stephen | anyways, I have to leave you guys for a while. I'll cya in an hour or so |
| 05:59:30 | earHertz | yeah. it works with ipods, although not as well as it could |
| 05:59:33 | sharpe | i had a creative muvo once... accidentally washed it, worked as a usb drive for a few weeks after that. |
| 05:59:49 | I_stephen | cya guys |
| 05:59:52 | earHertz | sharpe: you wash? |
| 05:59:53 | I_stephen | talk to ya later |
| 05:59:54 | sharpe | goodbye |
| 05:59:55 | earHertz | cya |
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| 06:00:14 | sharpe | earHertz: ... |
| 06:00:21 | earHertz | sharpe: ? |
| 06:00:44 | sharpe | it was washed along with clothes |
| 06:01:01 | earHertz | you're not a real hacker |
| 06:01:12 | sharpe | i never claimed to be. :D |
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| 06:02:40 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 06:02:48 | earHertz | hello |
| 06:02:52 | sharpe | hello |
| 06:02:56 | Jungti1234 | anyone have iPod? |
| 06:03:01 | sharpe | yes. |
| 06:03:02 | earHertz | me |
| 06:03:09 | Jungti1234 | I have question |
| 06:03:16 | sharpe | we've an answer. |
| 06:03:54 | earHertz | yeah, in the future, just ask |
| 06:03:59 | Jungti1234 | If use Rockbox, can't I listen to music by Apple OS? |
| 06:04:15 | sharpe | yes, you can. |
| 06:04:16 | earHertz | you can boot into apple or rockbox |
| 06:04:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox on iPod dual boots just like on iRiver. |
| 06:04:28 | Jungti1234 | nono I mean.. |
| 06:04:42 | earHertz | you mean itunes music? not if it has drm |
| 06:04:53 | sharpe | you can use tagcache to index the music itunes places on thine ipod. |
| 06:05:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Music from the iTunes store will not work, and is unlikely to ever work. Other music you use iTunes to rip or encode will work. |
| 06:06:00 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: if it's drm'd. I have podcasts tat are mp3 format. i got them via the itunes store, but they're free |
| 06:06:12 | Jungti1234 | Music don't saw. |
| 06:06:29 | sharpe | earHertz: but they're just downloaded via itunes. |
| 06:06:38 | earHertz | sharpe: yes |
| 06:06:45 | Jungti1234 | There is no music in list. |
| 06:06:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Hm. I suppose I should've said "purchased" from the iTunes store. |
| 06:07:08 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah. |
| 06:07:33 | earHertz | Jungti1234: you're running rockbox, and don't see your music? |
| 06:07:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I still think someone extremely bored should make a FairPlay codec, just for playback (no saving of decoded files) |
| 06:08:19 | sharpe | hah, i'm at the extremely bored part. |
| 06:08:31 | Jungti1234 | no, in iPod |
| 06:08:34 | Jungti1234 | ah, Apple OS |
| 06:08:35 | earHertz | sharpe: you a coder? |
| 06:08:51 | sharpe | earHertz: i do some.. yes... |
| 06:08:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: Well, this is not the right place to ask questions about AppleOS. But... are you using iTunes to transfer the music to it? |
| 06:09:08 | Jungti1234 | iTunes |
| 06:09:16 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 06:09:23 | earHertz | Jungti1234: run tagcache |
| 06:09:35 | Jungti1234 | But, it worked well before use Rockbox. |
| 06:10:07 | Jungti1234 | ahh, have onec more problem. |
| 06:10:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: He's in Retail |
| 06:10:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: The newest Apple firmware has a change that causes songs not to show up if you have Rockbox installed. |
| 06:10:36 | Jungti1234 | Look that song title is 'Untagged'. |
| 06:10:54 | Jungti1234 | but It has ID3Tag. |
| 06:11:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: I just told you, it's an issue in the retail firmware. |
| 06:11:15 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: wtf? |
| 06:11:23 | Jungti1234 | Apple's problem? |
| 06:11:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | For some reason the newest version doesn't show songs properly after users install Rockbox |
| 06:11:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Older versions worked fine, but the most recent firmware update doesn't. |
| 06:11:49 | earHertz | in the retail os they don't show up? |
| 06:11:55 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 06:11:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 06:11:58 | Jungti1234 | OK paul |
| 06:12:02 | Jungti1234 | thanks... :) |
| 06:12:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | I upgraded firmware, flashed Rockbox, synced the songs over with iTunes, they did not show up |
| 06:12:19 | Jungti1234 | tag, music all? |
| 06:12:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | I restored bootpartition.bin, the songs showed up. |
| 06:12:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | The bootpartition contained the new firmware, but of course no rockbox, and was *before* I synced the songs, so nothing goes on in the firmware partition when syncing to register songs or anything |
| 06:13:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | It could very well be Apple saying "We aren't playing ball any more." |
| 06:13:14 | Jungti1234 | Music doesn't look in Apple firmware. |
| 06:13:15 | Jungti1234 | ID3 Tag doesn't look in Rockbox. |
| 06:13:42 | Jungti1234 | Are all two Apple's problem? |
| 06:14:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | If the ID3 tags aren't showing up in Rockbox you should make sure the files are validly tagged |
| 06:15:00 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: DO IT AGAIN, BUT remove rockbox.ipod and rename .rockbox to something else |
| 06:16:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doing it sah! |
| 06:17:12 | Jungti1234 | what is 'validly tagged' |
| 06:17:13 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 06:17:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Still nothing. Having our bootloader in the boot partition keeps songs from showing up for some reason |
| 06:17:30 | earHertz | Jungti1234: means has teh correct tags |
| 06:17:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: The tags are correct. |
| 06:18:00 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: hmm |
| 06:18:09 | earHertz | thanks gor checking |
| 06:18:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | I thought the image created even keeps the ipod firmware in the same place, doesn't it? Or am I mistaken on that one? |
| 06:18:43 | Jungti1234 | that tag seem well in H300. |
| 06:19:03 | Jungti1234 | maybe it's only iPod problems... |
| 06:19:07 | earHertz | well, it displaces teh retailos oss bootloader |
| 06:19:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Jungti1234: Try copying the same files by dragging them over, and see if the tags are okay in Rockbox |
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| 06:20:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Well, I'm always up for experimenting if you have ideas later. 's a lot of what I do around here. :) |
| 06:20:53 | earHertz | well, it really doesn't matter if it's intentional or not |
| 06:21:13 | earHertz | either way it screws things up |
| 06:21:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 06:21:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder if the firmware expects some magic from their bootloader or something. |
| 06:22:49 | sharpe | hmm... |
| 06:23:08 | earHertz | Paul_The_Nerd: or just calculates a checksum |
| 06:23:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Each firmware version would then come with a checksum for its own bootloader. =/ |
| 06:23:47 | earHertz | yup |
| 06:24:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | That could prove frustrating for the people who still use it. |
| 06:24:49 | earHertz | and for newbies to use rockbox |
| 06:24:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | For newbies? |
| 06:25:16 | earHertz | anyone who has upgraded to the neww retailos |
| 06:25:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | YUeah |
| 06:25:39 | earHertz | will have to choose between rockbox or apple |
| 06:25:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't know which iPods it affects yet, beyond Nano |
| 06:25:45 | earHertz | no more dual booting |
| 06:25:51 | sharpe | i just realized, i was going to write a tutorial on upgrading the apple firmware without reinstalling the bootloader, but never got around to it. |
| 06:25:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fortunately Nano has no real argument for just using RB except battery life |
| 06:27:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | If it were a checksum, could we replace the value it compares it to with one appropriate to our bootloader during the ipod_fw merge step? |
| 06:27:22 | sharpe | i believe so. |
| 06:28:11 | earHertz | well, perhaps |
| 06:28:30 | sharpe | unless it were somehow... encrypted... |
| 06:28:36 | earHertz | depends on how sneaky apple wants to be |
| 06:28:37 | sharpe | which wouldn't make much sense. |
| 06:28:45 | sharpe | encrypting a checksum... |
| 06:29:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, or it could all just be a minor side effect of some sort. |
| 06:29:15 | sharpe | indeed |
| 06:29:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Could a significant change in size in the Apple FW affect things negatively? |
| 06:29:48 | sharpe | i don't see why it would, but that's just me. |
| 06:30:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because they did add all that Nike stuff. |
| 06:30:37 | earHertz | huh? |
| 06:30:43 | sharpe | maybe it's really nike against rockbox. :) |
| 06:31:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Apple_os.bin is like, 5,400k, which is more than I remember the old one being. |
| 06:31:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think |
| 06:31:30 | earHertz | nike? |
| 06:31:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 06:31:40 | earHertz | wtf? |
| 06:31:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a sensor that goes in shoes. |
| 06:31:48 | sharpe | the ipod to shoe communication. |
| 06:31:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | And lets you use the iPod to keep track of workouts |
| 06:32:01 | earHertz | wha? |
| 06:32:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | It even has a Power Song feature, where you pick a song, and when it thinks you're getting tired, that song kicks in. |
| 06:32:14 | earHertz | you conn4enect your shoes to the ipod? |
| 06:32:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wirelessly |
| 06:32:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | One shoe |
| 06:32:31 | earHertz | oh for christ';s sake |
| 06:32:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's a sensor that certain Nike shoes have a pocket for. |
| 06:32:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | under the heel |
| 06:32:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or you could modify a normal shoe for it, so you don't have to spend $100 on new shoes just for your iPod. |
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| 06:33:26 | earHertz | or you could stick teh sensor up you ass, and chamge songs by clenching youre sphincter |
| 06:33:26 | sharpe | it sounds so funny, "spend $100 on new shoes just for your ipod." |
| 06:34:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: Don't say such things. There's probably a market... |
| 06:34:32 | earHertz | yah |
| 06:35:08 | sharpe | and what you just said is now, permanently in the logs. |
| 06:35:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | I didn't know there are logs of this channel in like, several other places too. |
| 06:36:01 | sharpe | other places? |
| 06:36:42 | scorche | like my computer? =P |
| 06:36:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I did a google for some phrase I knew was in the logs, and forgot to include site:www.rockbox.org, and ended up getting logs of our channel at two or three websites besides Rockbox. |
| 06:37:05 | scorche | like? |
| 06:37:17 | sharpe | i just realized. i could now implement malloc()/free() in my kernel design... because i've virtual memory correctly working... |
| 06:37:25 | earHertz | scorche: DHS |
| 06:37:38 | scorche | davis high school? |
| 06:37:46 | sharpe | scorche: yes. |
| 06:37:48 | earHertz | homelansd seciurity |
| 06:38:43 | scorche | why would they want our logs? |
| 06:38:57 | earHertz | open sorce == terriorists |
| 06:39:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clearly! |
| 06:39:15 | scorche | >_> |
| 06:39:20 | sharpe | it must be true! |
| 06:40:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Once we figure out the iPod USB code, we can set up a hidden distributed computing system with them, and harness the power of iPod users to break encryption, them sending analyzed packets back to us every time they sync! Muahahaha! And other villainous things! |
| 06:40:34 | sharpe | Paul_The_Nerd: distributed.net client for ipods. :) |
| 06:41:08 | scorche | ok...i just went back into the logs and found a phrase....searched and rockbox.org was the only site that came up |
| 06:41:44 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shrugs. |
| 06:41:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | This was about a month and a half ago. |
| 06:42:44 | scorche | chose one from middle of may and same thing |
| 06:43:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fair enough |
| 06:43:16 | earHertz | http://www.irclogs.ws/freenode/rockbox/18Nov2005/2.html |
| 06:43:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's one of 'em |
| 06:43:34 | scorche | ha...nov 05 |
| 06:44:00 | scorche | wtf?....did they mix up the names or something? |
| 06:44:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yup |
| 06:44:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | All the places I saw had scrambled names |
| 06:46:42 | earHertz | anyplace I can find free audio books |
| 06:47:05 | sharpe | google? |
| 06:47:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Project Gutenberg has some right? |
| 06:47:14 | * | earHertz smacks sharpe |
| 06:47:15 | sharpe | yep |
| 06:47:29 | earHertz | yeah, but read...by..ttts... softw ware |
| 06:47:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/categories/1 |
| 06:47:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | Human read |
| 06:47:49 | earHertz | reallly??? |
| 06:47:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yessir |
| 06:47:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not terribly many |
| 06:48:01 | earHertz | thanks! |
| 06:49:02 | earHertz | no |
| 06:49:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | No? |
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| 07:20:04 | Harry | hell |
| 07:20:08 | Harry | o |
| 07:20:13 | Harry | whats up guys |
| 07:20:50 | Harry | i found way to install ipl loader 2 only |
| 07:21:30 | Harry | hell |
| 07:21:31 | Harry | o |
| 07:21:34 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 07:21:41 | Harry | whats up |
| 07:21:51 | Harry | wats new in rockbox |
| 07:22:45 | Harry | how do i run doom |
| 07:24:36 | Jungti1234 | ... |
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| 07:56:29 | sharpe | god. mistaking a channel for another. |
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| 07:57:54 | Harry | yo |
| 07:58:13 | Harry | y does rockbox 3.0 work for ipods |
| 07:58:30 | Harry | doesnt |
| 07:58:47 | Harry | hello |
| 07:59:07 | Harry | and r the ipod builds even being updated |
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| 08:00:20 | Harry | ? |
| 08:02:13 | Bg3r | Harry first of all, rockbox 3.0 isn't ready yet |
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| 08:02:20 | Bg3r | huh |
| 08:02:34 | midkay | impatience.. |
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| 08:02:46 | Bg3r | yep |
| 08:16:04 | amiconn | Hmm, no Paul_the_Nerd ... |
| 08:19:35 | sharpe | maybe he's sleeping? |
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| 08:26:12 | Bg3r | wow ... my Rockbox dir is 3.8GB .. |
| 08:26:41 | sharpe | i'm hoping not on your player. |
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| 08:27:19 | Bg3r | no, the dev dir on my PC + all crosscompilers |
| 08:27:35 | sharpe | oh. in that case. |
| 08:28:22 | sharpe | 0.98Gb. |
| 08:30:17 | midgey34 | 1.14 GiB, but I'm sure I could clean that up |
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| 08:37:00 | sharpe | gah; i forgot, can you preform pointer arithmetic on void pointers without casting them? |
| 08:37:41 | Bg3r | i think the compiler must know how much to advance the address .. so i suppose no, u can't |
| 08:37:41 | amiconn | In gcc you can |
| 08:38:18 | amiconn | It's a gcc extension; void pointers behave like char pointers for pointer arithmetic, i.e. offsets are in bytes |
| 08:38:24 | sharpe | ah. |
| 08:38:30 | sharpe | oh well, i'll just play it safe anyway. |
| 08:38:46 | Bg3r | sharpe what r u working on ? |
| 08:39:14 | sharpe | malloc/free implementation in a operating system kernel i've decided to work on. |
| 08:42:57 | midgey34 | bah |
| 08:43:07 | * | midgey34 becomes upset with blackjack code |
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| 09:02:15 | saratoga | is there a mirror for the X5 bootloader somewhere? |
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| 09:02:22 | saratoga | my friend is bugging me for it |
| 09:03:32 | midgey34 | this? http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/IaudioBoot/ |
| 09:03:55 | LinusN | http://daniel.haxx.se/twiki/IaudioBoot/ |
| 09:03:57 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:06:10 | midgey34 | if any coder would like to take a look at my blackjack code, I'd appreciate some criticism, comments, or help solving my two remaining bugs |
| 09:06:22 | midgey34 | the zip file is at http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=8854307 |
| 09:06:46 | midgey34 | but I'm going to sleep, I'll read the logs when I get up |
| 09:09:17 | Bg3r | and what are your 2 remaining bugs ? |
| 09:10:21 | LinusN | 1. when split 2 has more than 4 cards it looks up |
| 09:10:31 | LinusN | 2. dealer cards are drawn instead of split 2 cards |
| 09:11:02 | midgey34 | those comments make sense? |
| 09:12:08 | LinusN | not really, since i don't know the rest of the code :-) |
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| 09:13:23 | midgey34 | basically they occur when splitting. if the second hand of a split has more than 4, it locks up |
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| 09:13:50 | |Lupin| | Hi, there. |
| 09:13:53 | Slasheri | hmm, i think i will not use checksums in the runtimedb/tagcache. Instead changelog files would contain original tags (filename, artist etc.) and modified ones. That way renaming files or changing some tags, it would be posible to match other unchanged tags and find the correct entry |
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| 09:14:10 | Slasheri | and that can be done automatically when there is just a single match |
| 09:14:17 | midgey34 | otherwise, the dealer's cards are drawn in place of the second hand of the split when the final output is displayed |
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| 09:45:54 | saratoga | does formatting the iaudio remove rockbox like it does on the ipod? or does it actually flash stuff |
| 09:46:11 | petur | it does on almost all targets |
| 09:46:44 | petur | only a bootloader gets flashed, the rest is on disk for easy upgrading |
| 09:48:35 | LinusN | ok, the wiki is back up, let's hope i didn't miss anything |
| 09:48:37 | elljay | has anyone else had the problem that after plugging in the ipod via usb i lose all my settings in rockbox including my theme selection? |
| 09:48:51 | petur | hooray for LinusN ;) |
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| 09:49:42 | petur | elljay: settings are only saved during normal shutdown, so after changing, shutdown |
| 09:49:43 | LinusN | elljay: rockbox doesn't save the settings until you shut it off |
| 09:50:02 | elljay | ahh, good to know |
| 09:50:04 | elljay | thanks guys |
| 09:50:32 | LinusN | in fact, it might be a good idea for rockbox to save the settings before entering usb mode, on the ipod |
| 09:51:17 | elljay | well that's what i wasnt figuring out becaue if i wasnt sitting infront of my pc |
| 09:51:32 | elljay | adding music, doing changes waddin more music usbing again |
| 09:51:35 | elljay | i never would have noticed it |
| 09:51:40 | elljay | because in the car i shut it down before i get out |
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| 09:56:37 | sharpe | well. i suppose i have the malloc working. |
| 09:56:49 | LinusN | wee, it's july 14, vive la france! |
| 09:57:06 | scorche` | isnt that the 24th? |
| 09:57:11 | elljay | and 6 days after my birthday! |
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| 09:58:28 | LinusN | no, it's the 14th, when they stormed the bastille |
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| 10:24:47 | sharpe | ooh. i just broke malloc. |
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| 10:26:38 | saratoga | in linux is there some way to confirm i've got a multiprocessor kernal installed? |
| 10:27:17 | Bg3r | cat /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 10:27:22 | Bg3r | uname -a ? |
| 10:27:29 | saratoga | cpuinfo didn't make it clear |
| 10:27:42 | Mikachu | zcat /proc/config.gz |
| 10:28:13 | Bg3r | yep, just to suggest it |
| 10:28:35 | saratoga | i don't have a proc/config.gz |
| 10:29:00 | Bg3r | did you compile the kernel yourself ? |
| 10:29:12 | saratoga | no, it came with ubuntu 6.06 |
| 10:29:46 | Bg3r | hm, what about the lilo/grub choices? |
| 10:29:50 | saratoga | the install was amazingly screwed up though due to my laptop |
| 10:30:23 | saratoga | uname -a says i have kernel 2.6.15-26-386 |
| 10:30:32 | saratoga | does that sound correct |
| 10:30:40 | Bg3r | anything SMP ? |
| 10:31:00 | saratoga | nope |
| 10:31:05 | saratoga | i guess its wrong then |
| 10:31:06 | Bg3r | okay, r u running it on a computer with 2 CPU cores ? |
| 10:31:10 | saratoga | yeah |
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| 10:31:11 | saratoga | yonah |
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| 10:31:22 | Bg3r | and there's only one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo ? |
| 10:31:38 | saratoga | oh |
| 10:31:40 | saratoga | yes there is |
| 10:31:45 | saratoga | so that clears it up |
| 10:31:52 | Bg3r | then i'm pretty sure it's not SMP |
| 10:34:59 | saratoga | yeah |
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| 10:35:15 | saratoga | looks like i can install an SMP kernel via Synaptic pretty easy though |
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| 10:41:36 | saratoga | should i be using binutils 2.16 or 2.16.1? or does it not matter |
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| 11:05:36 | sharpe | oh well. i still haven't fixed my broken malloc()... i fix it when i wake up. |
| 11:05:39 | sharpe | goodnight everyone. |
| 11:05:40 | amiconn | saratoga: I recommend 2.16.1, but it doesn't matter much |
| 11:06:01 | sharpe | i could've sworn i typed "i'll" instead of "i" |
| 11:06:31 | sharpe | night people. |
| 11:06:34 | webmind | nite |
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| 11:16:19 | elljay | You will need rockbox with the Album Art and Scrolling Margins Patches to use this theme. |
| 11:16:31 | elljay | are those included in the latest daily build? |
| 11:16:37 | petur | no |
| 11:17:04 | petur | but there are some users in the forums that offer patched builds |
| 11:17:22 | saratoga | whats the status of Rockbox 3.0 anyway? |
| 11:17:29 | saratoga | have they nearly finished it? |
| 11:17:57 | petur | 3.0 will be what you see now minus open issues ;) |
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| 11:20:53 | lou | can you guys come up with something so that i can fire laserbeams out of my iPod ? |
| 11:21:08 | lou | in 3.0 that is |
| 11:21:18 | * | lou writes a feature request |
| 11:21:31 | * | petur hands lou the prize for the weirdest feature request |
| 11:21:43 | lou | :} |
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| 11:22:53 | Landus | Anyone awake? |
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| 11:25:05 | elljay | album art |
| 11:25:17 | elljay | wht's the defult name for the file? |
| 11:25:50 | PaulJam | cover.bmp (if that's what you mean) |
| 11:25:52 | linuxstb | I believe it looks for various different names. Read the description of the patch in the patch tracker. |
| 11:27:07 | elljay | does it support cover.jp? |
| 11:27:11 | elljay | or .gif? |
| 11:27:27 | Landus | How do I remove everything from my dynamic playlist? |
| 11:27:29 | PaulJam | currenly only .bmp |
| 11:27:54 | PaulJam | Landus: stop playback |
| 11:27:57 | Landus | I inserted the folder that has all my music and I don't want it all in the playlist. |
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| 11:33:44 | Landus | While a few people are awake.. does everyone put their music in one folder and just hold the down button when looking for a song? |
| 11:33:56 | petur | rofl: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/zidane_headbutt_outrage/ |
| 11:34:35 | safetydan | Landus, music/artist/album/01-track.ext is usually how I have my music layed out |
| 11:35:08 | PaulJam | i use: /Musik/Artist/Album/## Title.mp3 |
| 11:35:26 | Landus | Ah. |
| 11:35:44 | Landus | I might do the same, but take out the album. |
| 11:36:16 | Landus | Back when I used .mp3 and fixed the VBR header, the ID3 tags got warped. |
| 11:36:38 | Landus | I lost alot of the albums, and I've sold a handful of CD's since then. |
| 11:40:21 | Landus | Everytime I add a track to the playlist, a small circle icon appears in the top-right for a second, then fades away. |
| 11:40:55 | Landus | Is it some kind of symbol to let the user know the player is working"? |
| 11:41:31 | linuxstb | That's the disk activity icon. |
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| 11:59:30 | elljay | the albun art patch |
| 11:59:40 | elljay | album |
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| 12:00:00 | elljay | what's the size for the graphic? |
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| 12:00:25 | PaulJam | depends on the wps. |
| 12:00:39 | elljay | 100x100/ |
| 12:03:49 | elljay | if i'm making a standard cover art image |
| 12:03:53 | elljay | what's the standard? |
| 12:04:20 | elljay | bmp gif etc 100x100 or 64x64 or will it be resised? |
| 12:04:53 | midkay | bmp.. |
| 12:05:08 | elljay | is there a standard size? |
| 12:05:13 | PaulJam | you need to resize it yourself to the size the wps expects and save it as .bmp |
| 12:05:25 | safetydan | elljay, depends on the wps you've chosen |
| 12:05:27 | midkay | it all depends on the size the wps wants. |
| 12:05:33 | linuxstb | elljay: If I was you, I would keep the original images (all my album art is around 500x500 JPG), and then batch-resize it to whatever the WPS you are using needs it to be. |
| 12:05:36 | safetydan | some are 100x100, some are 75x75 |
| 12:06:19 | elljay | can you guys reccomend a tool for for Windows? |
| 12:06:29 | PaulJam | irfan view |
| 12:06:35 | elljay | irfan view |
| 12:07:01 | linuxstb | I'm sure there is a lot of discussion about album art on the misticriver forums. |
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| 12:09:32 | elljay | amarok in linux grabs images from amazone |
| 12:10:03 | elljay | any quick tool lik that? |
| 12:11:18 | PaulJam | maybe you find something here : http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=37400 |
| 12:11:51 | linuxstb | I use albumart-qt under Linux, but it works under Windows as well: http://kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/ |
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| 12:11:57 | linuxstb | But there may be better windows-only tools. |
| 12:13:17 | PaulJam | i used google, propably the worst method. |
| 12:13:46 | elljay | so how do you tell by looking at the .wps 75/75 or 100/100? |
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| 12:14:36 | PaulJam | most times the author mentions it in the description of the wps |
| 12:14:49 | Landus | Album art? |
| 12:14:59 | Landus | Besides it's a patch, what does it do? |
| 12:15:50 | Landus | Uh. |
| 12:15:54 | Landus | Can anyone change the topic. |
| 12:15:56 | Landus | The twiki is back up. |
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| 12:33:21 | amiconn | LinusN: Twiki diff display still doesn't use the rockbox skin, like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Main/WebHome?rev1=54;rev2=53 |
| 12:33:48 | LinusN | i know |
| 12:34:13 | LinusN | and i can't for the life of me understand now the damn twiki templates for the rdiff work |
| 12:36:20 | elljay | hah |
| 12:36:36 | elljay | i got the album art working |
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| 12:55:13 | LinusN | depressing fact: google for "tramadol rockbox" :-( |
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| 12:57:58 | safetydan | that's bad |
| 12:58:12 | safetydan | low life spammer scum |
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| 12:58:33 | lou | welcome to the world wide web |
| 12:58:35 | lou | :) |
| 12:58:37 | LinusN | haha |
| 12:59:08 | LinusN | must be plenty of money to be made for that shit |
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| 13:00:22 | midkay | whoa. |
| 13:00:27 | midkay | lots of results for that search.. |
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| 13:01:39 | lou | (LinusN) must be plenty of money to be made for that shit |
| 13:01:47 | lou | you would be surprised how much indeed |
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| 13:29:03 | qwm | vagina. |
| 13:29:06 | qwm | penis. |
| 13:29:08 | qwm | good night. :> |
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| 13:31:52 | petur | the little kid goes to bed early today |
| 13:32:21 | lou | Fri Jul 14 13:32:21 CEST 2006 |
| 13:32:23 | lou | i agree |
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| 13:42:22 | LinusN | has anybody tried any of the remote control patches from Mmmmm? |
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| 13:55:45 | Genre9mp3 | About the remote... since #4860 has an "ugly" aprroach for the H300 LCD buttons, I was wondering about #5661 (haven't tested yet, though) |
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| 13:59:28 | Bg3r | the same thing ... |
| 13:59:43 | Bg3r | #define BOOKMARK_RC_SELECT BUTTON_RC_MENU /* for H1x0 remote */ |
| 13:59:52 | Bg3r | #define BOOKMARK_RC_SELECT2 BUTTON_RC3_MENU /* for H3x0 remote */ |
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| 14:00:29 | Genre9mp3 | Bg3r: So both have the same approach? |
| 14:00:53 | Bg3r | afics, yes |
| 14:01:16 | Genre9mp3 | I see.. |
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| 14:04:16 | linuxstb | LinusN: I think TiMiD has commented (in the forums) on some of Mmmm's patches. |
| 14:04:29 | LinusN | ok |
| 14:05:16 | linuxstb | I think the discussion I remember was about the virtual keyboard patch. |
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| 14:38:49 | shriphani | erm people i put rockbox on my ipod but are the vorbis codecs preinstalled or should i go get them ? |
| 14:39:25 | PaulJam | everything is included |
| 14:39:34 | shriphani | oh cool |
| 14:39:45 | shriphani | but how do i sync vorbis to my ipod ? |
| 14:40:11 | shriphani | i am using ubuntu linux |
| 14:40:12 | PaulJam | just copy them with your favourite filemanager. |
| 14:40:34 | shriphani | but will the ipod recognise it ? |
| 14:40:45 | shriphani | cuz i want them in my id3 database |
| 14:41:24 | PaulJam | rockbox will recognize them, the apple firmware will not. |
| 14:41:43 | shriphani | so i cant see them in my id3 database ? |
| 14:42:45 | PaulJam | do you mean tagcache? |
| 14:42:49 | shriphani | yes |
| 14:43:32 | PaulJam | if tagcache is set to autoupdate, then they will be added automatically |
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| 14:43:53 | shriphani | ok so can i use gtkpod for syning them ? |
| 14:44:04 | shriphani | syncing ^ |
| 14:44:25 | shriphani | that is them vorbis songs |
| 14:44:42 | PaulJam | i have no idea what gtkpod is, but try it and you will see if it works |
| 14:45:15 | shriphani | i use linux so gtkpod is a reliable ipod client for ipods |
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| 14:49:00 | petur | shriphani: rockbox doesn't use the ipod db so there's no need to try to add those songs to it (afaik - don't have an ipod) |
| 14:49:38 | shriphani | but will i see them songs in tagcache ? |
| 14:50:11 | petur | yes, tagcache should update itself automatically in the background |
| 14:50:27 | petur | just drag-drop the files |
| 14:50:34 | shriphani | ok thanks |
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| 16:25:36 | sidolin | hi |
| 16:26:28 | sidolin | when i turn the clickwheel of my ipod to fast while scrolling in lists, rockbox jumps to the end of the list? |
| 16:26:39 | sidolin | how can i turn off this behavior? |
| 16:26:53 | sidolin | jumping forward 10 items or so would be better |
| 16:26:57 | lou | how can you turn it on? :( |
| 16:27:09 | sidolin | i didnt turn it on ;) |
| 16:27:17 | lou | i want to have that |
| 16:27:22 | lou | didnt know its possible |
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| 16:28:29 | sidolin | but it sucks to scroll through 300 artists with a speed of 5 artists/sec because otherwise you jump to the end of the list and have to start a new attempt ;) |
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| 16:32:33 | sidolin | ok, found it |
| 16:32:54 | sidolin | general setting - system - ipod wheel ... |
| 16:33:00 | sidolin | and then adjust the values |
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| 17:36:45 | San||Away | anyone got the old rockbox dev kit that they can send me? |
| 17:36:55 | | Nick San||Away is now known as [San] (n=San@A-79-72.cust.iol.ie) |
| 17:39:07 | linuxstb | [San]: Do you mean this? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cyborgsystems/CS_Main/RockBox/RockBox.htm |
| 17:39:45 | [San] | yeah |
| 17:39:46 | [San] | thanks |
| 17:39:57 | [San] | i didn't know that was still being hosted |
| 17:40:03 | [San] | ty |
| 17:40:25 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if it still works though... |
| 17:40:43 | [San] | " the page cannot be found" |
| 17:40:44 | [San] | :( |
| 17:41:18 | linuxstb | I'm looking at it now... |
| 17:42:06 | linuxstb | Ah, the download link says that. |
| 17:42:16 | [San] | yup |
| 17:43:18 | [San] | just last week, I had it on my H300.... and i moved it somewhere thinking I wouldn't need it but now it seems to have disappeared |
| 17:43:18 | [San] | :( |
| 17:43:44 | linuxstb | A standard cygwin install (using the Rockbox-hosted packages) or vmware would work better anyway. |
| 17:43:53 | linuxstb | And now you have the wiki back.... |
| 17:44:01 | [San] | i tryed that aswell |
| 17:44:15 | [San] | but the rockbox-hosted packages are down aswell |
| 17:44:21 | [San] | oooh, its back up now? |
| 17:44:47 | linuxstb | About 2.5 hours ago. |
| 17:45:19 | [San] | oh, ok... thanks |
| 17:46:13 | linuxstb | If the Cygwin packages are still unavailable, let LinusN know - but I can't think why they would be unavailable. |
| 17:48:33 | [San] | works fine |
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| 18:19:10 | Slasheri | hmm, initial stats gathering for tagcache integrated runtimedb should be finished soon :) |
| 18:19:26 | Slasheri | still no changelogs or good ways for user to generate smart playlist |
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| 18:39:22 | BigMac | hi all |
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| 18:50:31 | BigMac | is anyone working on a video player for rockbox on an ipod 5g? |
| 18:52:04 | BHSPitMonkey | it would be as crude as on any other player, it's not as if we have access to the 5G's special video hardware |
| 18:53:22 | BigMac | so that's a no? because if it did have a video player there would be no need for anyone to boot in apple os ever again |
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| 18:56:53 | BigMac | and ipl already has it implemented. and its open source so we could use it. |
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| 19:08:29 | breaker | Is their player running smoothly? Did you test it? |
| 19:08:53 | BigMac | anything is better then nothing |
| 19:09:05 | BigMac | if it isn't it can be improved |
| 19:09:23 | BigMac | but otherwise it is some eyecandy for now:-) |
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| 19:18:39 | BHSPitMonkey | iPL's video is uncompressed |
| 19:19:04 | BHSPitMonkey | rockbox would need to play compressed video to completely replace apple os |
| 19:19:29 | BHSPitMonkey | and to do that, it would need to understand and utilize the 5G's hardware completely |
| 19:19:51 | BigMac | im sure id still use it if it was uncompressed video |
| 19:19:59 | BigMac | like i said any video is better then no video |
| 19:21:18 | BHSPitMonkey | a 22-minute tv episode would probably use 5GB as an uncompressed avi. |
| 19:21:41 | BHSPitMonkey | and iPL doesn't play video on the 5G, either... just all the other models |
| 19:24:48 | BigMac | oh ok |
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| 19:40:53 | amiconn | BHSPitMonkey: How do you create a 5GB file on FAT/FAT32? |
| 19:41:01 | amiconn | The file size limit is 4GB-1 |
| 19:42:37 | amiconn | (and the _reliable_ limit for most applications is 2GB-1) |
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| 19:59:43 | Slasheri | ah, initial support for runtimedb works :) |
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| 20:00:13 | Slasheri | now i created a search option playcount > "0" to tagnavi.config and it works :) |
| 20:01:08 | Slasheri | but only software playback engine has the support at the moment to generate events when tracks are unbuffered.. and even it seems to be little buggy |
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| 20:02:45 | Slasheri | other data is playtime (total playtime of the track) that is saved in the db. So with playcount and playtime combined, it should be possible to calculate some simple scores |
| 20:03:28 | Slasheri | also lastplayed (probably just an increasing unique number) will be saved later |
| 20:03:41 | PaulJam | nice :) will the new runtimedb also have a manual rating system? |
| 20:04:12 | Slasheri | probably, but that is just some coding to the UI |
| 20:04:24 | Slasheri | at least it is very simple to implement at the engine level (just one more tag) |
| 20:05:32 | Slasheri | lostlogic: playback engine seems not to generate track unbuffer events correctly when stopping the playback |
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| 20:08:39 | Slasheri | it seems next thing to do would be to extend tag browser search capabilities (with configurable sorting, limits etc) and add the changelogs to tagcache engine |
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| 20:09:27 | obo | Slasheri: are you using the audio_set_track_changed_event() ?? |
| 20:10:11 | Slasheri | obo: at the moment just audio_set_track_unbuffer_event() |
| 20:10:37 | Slasheri | iirc, that event worked even when stopping playback with my original playback engine.. but it no longer seems to work |
| 20:10:41 | Slasheri | but i am not sure |
| 20:10:58 | obo | ah, okay. How often does that one trigger events? |
| 20:11:27 | Slasheri | it should trigger only when disk spins up (buffering new tracks) or when stopping playback |
| 20:12:18 | Slasheri | then playback engine should call that event for all tracks discarded from the playback buffer |
| 20:13:07 | Slasheri | and currently archos playback engine doesn't support that event at all :/ |
| 20:13:34 | Slasheri | oh.. i was wrong |
| 20:13:37 | Slasheri | it does support that! :) |
| 20:13:59 | Slasheri | well, then that's great. just need to fix the software playback engine |
| 20:14:14 | obo | "just" ;) |
| 20:14:38 | Slasheri | (and in fact it needs other fixing too, at least those crashes that happens all the time) |
| 20:14:54 | obo | I've written a patch for audioscrobbler support - I guess for it to stand any chance of being committed it will have to be part of the new runtimedb? |
| 20:15:34 | Slasheri | hmm, probably it should use that runtimedb (tagcache interface) |
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| 20:15:48 | Slasheri | then it could be even a plugin retrieving the data from tagcache |
| 20:16:43 | obo | yup. One problem I saw when looking at the old runtimedb was that it only logged the number of times a track had been played, not the timestamp for each one |
| 20:16:45 | Slasheri | obo: btw, how did you solve the problem with timestamps on units without rtc? |
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| 20:17:43 | obo | someone else wrote a perl script to submit the log file - for targets without RTCs it just uses the track length to count back in time, generating "fake" timestamps |
| 20:17:43 | Slasheri | obo: yep, new db will log lastplayed time too (probably that can be the real time retrieved from rtc on units which have that capability) |
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| 20:18:20 | Landus | Does anyone know why there isn't a h3x0 section on the daily builds page anymore? |
| 20:18:25 | tictric | my rockbox installation failed because I cannot get my ipod to boot into rockbox. It just showed an apple support link |
| 20:18:32 | Slasheri | obo: hmm, interestig |
| 20:18:33 | Slasheri | +n |
| 20:19:08 | obo | I also needed to add an extra function to each playback engine to return the amount of the previous track that was played |
| 20:19:08 | tictric | is there something known to consider with the current download files? |
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| 20:20:10 | obo | Landus: It's on the page when I look |
| 20:20:29 | obo | tictric: what kind of ipod? |
| 20:20:45 | Slasheri | obo: also, is it enough just to know the total count some track has been played and timestamp from the latest playback event? |
| 20:20:57 | tictric | obo: 5g, but I think I just found my error. hang on |
| 20:21:26 | obo | Slasheri: no - it needs the timestamp for each track (I also added a cut-down mktime to generate unix timestamps) |
| 20:22:16 | Slasheri | obo: yes, of course. but i meant if the same track has been played multiple times, would it be enough to know the last time only when it has been played? |
| 20:22:33 | Slasheri | because logging multiple playback times for same track would be difficult |
| 20:22:34 | obo | Slasheri: hmm, to make that slightly clearer - it needs the timestamp for each time the track has been played |
| 20:22:52 | Slasheri | hmm, true.. that would be hard to implement with tagcache |
| 20:23:02 | Landus | obo: Really? I only see a h1x0 section. |
| 20:23:53 | Slasheri | probably the audioscrobler support should be integrated to the core with or without using the runtimedb data |
| 20:24:44 | obo | well, what I've done does that (just about ;) ) - it's just I can see it not being added... |
| 20:26:02 | Febs | Landus: It's there, between iriver H120/140 and ipod color/Photo. |
| 20:26:51 | BigMac | what image formats does rockbox open? |
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| 20:28:33 | sharpe | JPEG. |
| 20:28:37 | sharpe | whee. |
| 20:29:09 | Slasheri | obo: hmm, in fact i think probably the audioscrobbler support should be separate from tagcache because they need different data. Runtimedb is mainly used for track scoring and audioscrobbler data is not suitable for scoring, but it just contains log of all playback events with timestamp and the track without scoring or anything like that |
| 20:30:07 | obo | yup, adding scoring would break the spec, and I guess you don't really want to use plain-text files either |
| 20:30:59 | Slasheri | true.. when those files get large, searching and statistical calculations would be much harder |
| 20:32:21 | Slasheri | and those files doesn't contain important information about the playback time vs song total length |
| 20:33:16 | obo | yeah. I'll leave my stuff as-is, and see what the feeling is after the thaw |
| 20:33:55 | obo | if you do end up using the changed_event(), I think there is a bug where it doesn't trigger for the first track in a playlist |
| 20:34:14 | obo | (at least on SW devices) |
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| 20:34:40 | Slasheri | ah, more bugs :D i don't think i will ever need that event |
| 20:35:02 | obo | ah, it'll keep then :) |
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| 20:37:09 | adiamas | so do we know what happened to the website/wiki that went away? |
| 20:37:28 | Slasheri | it was cracked |
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| 20:37:34 | obo | but it's back now |
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| 20:43:09 | adiamas | ahh.. i was afraid of that |
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| 20:50:27 | Slasheri | lostlogic: if you fix that, probably unbufferent events shouldn't be generated for the last track when playback is stopped, because that could lower the score of a track even if user likes that track |
| 20:50:36 | Slasheri | *ed |
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| 20:54:12 | Febs | Slasheri: with the runtime DB, will it be possible to do a query that returns ALL files on the player and then play the results shuffled? E.g. playcount >= 0 |
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| 20:56:57 | Slasheri | Febs: yes, that is even possible already (on my test build) |
| 20:57:22 | Slasheri | but more complex sorting (for example sorting using the playcount tag) is not yet possible |
| 20:57:48 | Febs | I was just thinking of all of the people who want to be able to shuffle all songs on the player without having to first create a root.m3u playlist. |
| 20:58:14 | Slasheri | Febs: ah, they can already do that with tagcache |
| 20:58:46 | Slasheri | just select one track from the "All tracks" and playlist should be created instantly |
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| 21:00:53 | Febs | That's cool. I haven't used the tagcache much so I didn't realize it had this functionality. I'll have to put that on my list of things to add to the manual. It seems like a feature that many want. |
| 21:01:03 | * | Febs doesn't think it's a big deal to create a root.m3u playlist. |
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| 21:01:23 | Slasheri | :) |
| 21:01:41 | Febs | But if the functionality is there, we might as well let people know about it! |
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| 21:13:09 | * | goffa hasn't played with tagcache |
| 21:13:20 | goffa | i heard it was more taxing on the battery |
| 21:13:30 | goffa | so haven't tried it |
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| 21:21:49 | goffa | not even sure how to turn it on on the h140 |
| 21:23:33 | Febs | There is an explanation in the manual. |
| 21:23:50 | Febs | Although it needs some updating in light of Slasheri's recent improvements. |
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| 21:26:48 | goffa | i just found where to turn it on |
| 21:27:10 | pi | can someone have a look as SF#5660 please/thanks |
| 21:27:22 | pi | it is a simple fix |
| 21:30:53 | goffa | damn.. i need to tag most of my colection |
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| 21:34:06 | sharpe | goffa: and why is it untagged? hmmm? hmmmmm? |
| 21:35:18 | goffa | i always view stuff by filename |
| 21:35:31 | goffa | and disable tags on everything :) |
| 21:35:33 | sharpe | me too, but mine's tagged. |
| 21:35:51 | goffa | i'll have to find some prog to tag everything |
| 21:35:55 | goffa | linux prog |
| 21:37:32 | PaulJam_ | if you find a good tagging program for linux, let me know (i haven't found a good replacement for mp3tag yet) |
| 21:38:19 | goffa | will do |
| 21:38:31 | goffa | i'll have to find one first though :) |
| 21:38:44 | adiamas | i used one id recommend.. let me see if i can track down the name of it.. one sec |
| 21:40:33 | adiamas | while i think of it.. linux or windows? |
| 21:41:03 | adiamas | goffa: what platform? |
| 21:41:38 | goffa | linux |
| 21:42:02 | goffa | i don't have a windows box anymore |
| 21:42:03 | PaulJam_ | goffa: many people use easytag on linux, but i don't really like it. |
| 21:42:12 | goffa | ok |
| 21:42:17 | obo | how about picard? |
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| 21:43:47 | adiamas | goffa i recommed http://www.debain.org/software/cantus/ |
| 21:43:50 | adiamas | cantus |
| 21:43:53 | adiamas | i was really happy with it |
| 21:44:05 | goffa | cool.. i'll give it a shot |
| 21:44:14 | adiamas | its no longer in developement.. about a year and a half out |
| 21:44:18 | adiamas | but i liked it when i was using it |
| 21:44:19 | goffa | if not that then picard |
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| 21:46:45 | sharpe | i love it how my conversations with people via phones are either extremely short, or extremely long. |
| 21:49:19 | goffa | i prefer them to be extremely short :) |
| 21:49:54 | sharpe | they're either on the order of minutes, or hours. |
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| 22:03:12 | sharpe | hmm... cd crc errors suck... |
| 22:03:56 | S0ap | brasso |
| 22:06:09 | sharpe | well, there are many minute scratches on it. |
| 22:08:00 | S0ap | as long as there are no scratches in the reflective layer...given enough time, and enough effort, Brasso can work wonders. |
| 22:08:13 | sharpe | :) |
| 22:08:41 | S0ap | Or you could forget secure mode, rip in burst mode, and manually cut out the snaps and pops caused by the scratches. |
| 22:09:01 | sharpe | true... |
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| 22:10:00 | S0ap | they show up clear as a bell when you view the waveform graphicly, and are only 1 or 2 samples long, so it's not like you are losing /much/ |
| 22:10:17 | sharpe | not an audio cd. ;) |
| 22:10:24 | S0ap | oh, nevermind. |
| 22:10:33 | S0ap | why did you say "true" then? |
| 22:10:56 | sharpe | no real reason. |
| 22:11:25 | S0ap | :) |
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| 22:12:25 | sharpe | hoorah. wiki. |
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| 22:15:30 | sharpe | bah. time to rework the malloc(). |
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| 22:20:51 | Llorean | Febs: I don't know if I've said it yet, congrats on being made a mod over at our forums. |
| 22:25:56 | BigMac | its a good day guys |
| 22:26:08 | sharpe | BigMac: any particular reason? |
| 22:26:14 | BigMac | i got rockbox set up to my liking and i got a steereo for my ipod |
| 22:26:34 | sharpe | congrats. |
| 22:26:41 | BigMac | the only think that urkes me is i cant put on the rockboy patch without messing up my build |
| 22:26:50 | BigMac | but i can deal without it i guess |
| 22:27:13 | sharpe | BigMac: what's happening when you patch it? |
| 22:28:00 | BigMac | nothing i was told that since i have jbuild on i couldnt apply the absoulute positoning patch without messing up/removing jbuild |
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| 22:28:01 | BigMac | and i like j build alot |
| 22:28:07 | BigMac | marco |
| 22:28:15 | sharpe | a. |
| 22:28:16 | sharpe | h. |
| 22:28:25 | BigMac | h. |
| 22:28:27 | BigMac | a. |
| 22:29:25 | midkay | sharpe, you mean "what happens when you patch it?" because it's nothing that *is happening*, it's something that happened before that he'll have to live with. |
| 22:30:00 | sharpe | alright midkay. |
| 22:30:05 | Llorean | Well, applying absolute positioning won't mess up jbuild so much as require replacing it with a build you make yourself. Not too hard, and you can apply all the patches jbuild uses anyway |
| 22:30:07 | midkay | victory. |
| 22:30:14 | * | S0ap grows bored of eyecandy after a week and ends up turning it off. |
| 22:30:39 | Llorean | S0ap: There are people at misticriver who feel having 30 or 40 graphical themes isn't enough, because they switch several times an hour. |
| 22:30:43 | Llorean | I just don't get it. |
| 22:31:03 | sharpe | Llorean: they're insecure with their theme. :) |
| 22:31:06 | Llorean | Of course there are also people who use Rockbox primarily for Doom, so I guess the world is a very nutty place. |
| 22:31:29 | S0ap | If my ipod had a touchscreen like my palm-pilot, if i used it for more than playing music (like my palm pilot)...I would get more into it. |
| 22:31:45 | S0ap | I am working on a WPS, but just for sh%^s and giggles. |
| 22:32:04 | sharpe | S0ap: we don't use hard symbols in here. |
| 22:32:08 | sharpe | harsh. |
| 22:32:24 | S0ap | you mean I can spell out sh%^? |
| 22:32:41 | sharpe | how would you spell out two letters and two symbols? |
| 22:32:58 | S0ap | now you're being a sarcastic bastard. |
| 22:33:00 | Llorean | esss, ache, percent, carat. |
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| 22:33:42 | PaulJam_ | maybe a strange codepage or something like that. |
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| 22:41:31 | sharpe | S0ap: my bad...? :-D |
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| 23:25:58 | S0ap | nobody's bad. |
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| 23:26:08 | dionoea | hello |
| 23:26:20 | dionoea | S0ap: thanks for the MusicBrainz thing :) |
| 23:27:29 | |apo| | Yay, wiki :D |
| 23:27:33 | * | |apo| dances |
| 23:28:26 | S0ap | yw dionoea |
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| 23:34:55 | Soap | how do I disconnect my ghost? |
| 23:35:27 | |apo| | msg nickserv ghost nick pw |
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| 23:46:16 | S0ap | ty |apo| |
| 23:46:23 | |apo| | np |
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| 23:46:57 | |apo| | Does anybody know of a decent mp3 recorder that won't ask me if I really want to save the file as .<not MP3>? |
| 23:47:18 | |apo| | Audacity's annoying, and I've only just started voicing my album dirs |
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| 23:48:34 | PaulJam_ | maybe you could save them as .mp3 and batch rename them afterwards. |
| 23:49:19 | apo` | How? They'd all be in different directories... |
| 23:50:25 | sharpe | apo`: would, very carefully be a sufficient answer? |
| 23:50:45 | apo` | >_> |
| 23:50:58 | apo` | Not at all, no |
| 23:51:04 | sharpe | then i've got nothing. |
| 23:52:13 | apo` | I wouldn't even mind renaming all mp3s on the iPod, coz they're properly tagged and foobar works great for doing ID3 -> filename ^^ |
| 23:52:25 | apo` | If that's what you were trying to tell me |
| 23:52:45 | sharpe | me? |
| 23:53:10 | apo` | Yea |
| 23:53:13 | sharpe | not at all. |
| 23:53:19 | apo` | Okay, then never mind |
| 23:53:26 | sharpe | alright then. |
| 23:56:16 | adiamas | apo`: are you on windows or linux? |
| 23:56:28 | apo` | win |
| 23:56:32 | apo` | But I have cygwin |
| 23:56:40 | adiamas | well. under cygwin |
| 23:56:47 | adiamas | i would just create all the files with .mp3 |
| 23:56:49 | adiamas | then |
| 23:57:16 | adiamas | hmm.. let me get the sed right.. one min :) |
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| 23:57:27 | apo` | ^^ |
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