| 00:00:03 | [HO]vo|t | one moment i am uploading an image to post |
| 00:01:36 | S0ap | are you using an official build, or a custom one from the forums? |
| 00:01:46 | [HO]vo|t | it's hardware related |
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| 00:02:16 | [HO]vo|t | FM Recorder V2, I am in the middle of swapping my line out jack to my headphone jack |
| 00:02:45 | sharpe | we should have forms out, to describe problems and requests for assistance. hah... "Did you fill out the form 10-T?" |
| 00:02:51 | [HO]vo|t | Please pardon the shoddy soldering work and I'm not afraid to ruin the unit as it has served me for quite some time, but here is my progress |
| 00:02:58 | [HO]vo|t | Here is an image : http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img93206xl.jpg |
| 00:03:36 | [HO]vo|t | The white, yellow, green, and yellow wires have since detached from their soldering points and I intend on soldering them back, however I have two questions |
| 00:04:19 | sharpe | odd, that looks similar to my desk. |
| 00:04:38 | [HO]vo|t | Or i guess three. what use does this piece serve (the part that is now detached from the main board)? |
| 00:05:03 | [HO]vo|t | Does it matter that the leftmost raised square (from the mini-pcb) is chipped? |
| 00:05:42 | S0ap | questions 1 and 2 depend on what the raised squares are. |
| 00:05:52 | [HO]vo|t | indeed |
| 00:07:10 | [HO]vo|t | and i am uncertain of how the yellow wire solders to the mini-pcb |
| 00:07:28 | sharpe | well, i can safely say i may not be any of help, i'm not familiar with that particular hardware. |
| 00:08:21 | S0ap | ditto, not knowing what those are, I can't help. |
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| 00:08:24 | [HO]vo|t | heh alright |
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| 00:09:02 | [HO]vo|t | for some reason i am led to believe that they are some type of amplifier, as this piece is only on the headphone jack, and not the line out jack |
| 00:09:13 | S0ap | in the photo I don't see the yellow being soldered on, does it pass through the PCB there? |
| 00:10:29 | [HO]vo|t | the yellow is soldered to the mainboard and the minipcb, it passes through the pcb and has solder on the other side |
| 00:11:01 | S0ap | and, is that the....(trying to think of the proper word)..the part that uses the headphone cord as your FM antenna? |
| 00:11:26 | [HO]vo|t | it may be, however i do not have radio on my unit |
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| 00:11:57 | [HO]vo|t | i'm thinking more along the lines of amplification for the headphone out |
| 00:12:16 | [HO]vo|t | but, probably not |
| 00:13:01 | [HO]vo|t | http://www.rockbox.org/internals/fmrec_top_hires.jpg this is a photo of the mini pcb in its original position |
| 00:13:36 | [HO]vo|t | the raised squares are made of plastic, therefore i believe i'm fine as far as the chip goes |
| 00:17:25 | adiamas | sorry.. back |
| 00:17:28 | adiamas | apo`: you still around? |
| 00:17:35 | apo` | Yea |
| 00:17:36 | apo` | ^^ |
| 00:17:52 | adiamas | you could try the following in cygwin |
| 00:17:54 | adiamas | for i in `find . -name *.mp3`; do mv $i `echo $i | awk '{split($1,a,".mp3");print(a[1])}'`; done |
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| 00:18:27 | apo` | Oo |
| 00:18:29 | apo` | Woah. |
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| 00:18:47 | apo` | But... uh... wouldn't *.mp3 rename _all_ mp3s on the device? |
| 00:19:14 | earHertz | adiamas: you're getting a lot of line noise on your modem |
| 00:19:20 | adiamas | well.. under whereeerver you want to rename them |
| 00:19:37 | adiamas | im assuming that all the audio's you want to rename are under the same branch |
| 00:19:46 | adiamas | w/o any you _dont_ want to rename |
| 00:19:48 | apo` | They're not, that's my problem |
| 00:19:52 | Kohlrabi | use the foobar masstagger to rename files |
| 00:20:06 | Kohlrabi | that is, if they're tagged properly |
| 00:20:14 | apo` | They're _dirname.talk files |
| 00:20:17 | apo` | No tags ;) |
| 00:20:19 | Kohlrabi | ah |
| 00:20:20 | Kohlrabi | dammit |
| 00:20:31 | Kohlrabi | well |
| 00:20:36 | Kohlrabi | it SHOULD work with filenames too |
| 00:20:45 | adiamas | umm.. then i have a mass tagger/renamer id recommend if you want that.. cleans up according to regex |
| 00:21:29 | adiamas | http://massid3lib.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:21:34 | adiamas | thats what ive used on windows and been happy with |
| 00:22:48 | apo` | Hm |
| 00:23:05 | [HO]vo|t | TagScanner is good as well. Does the same thing(Windows) |
| 00:23:11 | apo` | I think I'll just add all files to a playlist and then run a script over them in foobar that renames them to _dirname.talk |
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| 00:23:44 | Kohlrabi | hmm |
| 00:25:39 | PaulJam_ | apo`: you could first rename all .mp3 to something else (e.g. *.apo) and them create the _dirname.mp3 files, rename them to .talk and then remane the music files back to .mp3 |
| 00:25:52 | apo` | O_o |
| 00:25:53 | apo` | What!? |
| 00:25:59 | apo` | Ah.. |
| 00:26:03 | apo` | Nah, too complicated |
| 00:27:34 | Kohlrabi | ah |
| 00:27:48 | Kohlrabi | $directory(%path%) |
| 00:27:50 | Kohlrabi | try that |
| 00:27:58 | Kohlrabi | With copy/rename/move files |
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| 00:28:12 | apo` | Huh? |
| 00:28:39 | Kohlrabi | alternatively try $directory(%path%,#ofdirs) if you need a deeper structure |
| 00:29:22 | Kohlrabi | do you need the underscore _? |
| 00:29:31 | apo` | Yea |
| 00:29:34 | Kohlrabi | well |
| 00:29:39 | Kohlrabi | _$directory(%path%) then ;) |
| 00:29:45 | apo` | Anyway, I'll be off, speaking directory names ~_~ |
| 00:30:11 | apo` | And... the filename's supposed to be "_dirname.talk", not _$dirname.talk :P |
| 00:30:17 | Kohlrabi | ? |
| 00:30:28 | Kohlrabi | you didnt even try? |
| 00:30:31 | apo` | It really is _dirname, not _Apocalyptica |
| 00:30:40 | Kohlrabi | ah? |
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| 00:30:55 | Kohlrabi | so you want to rename EVERY file to _dirname? |
| 00:30:58 | Kohlrabi | .talk? |
| 00:31:15 | apo` | No |
| 00:31:19 | apo` | Err |
| 00:31:20 | apo` | Yes |
| 00:31:20 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 00:31:21 | apo` | xD |
| 00:31:32 | Kohlrabi | ugh |
| 00:31:36 | apo` | Every file that contains the directory, that is |
| 00:31:42 | apo` | (The name of the directory) |
| 00:31:49 | Kohlrabi | so |
| 00:32:27 | Kohlrabi | the file in say /albums/The Mars Volta/Frances The Mute/ should be called _Frances The Mute.talk.mp3? |
| 00:32:43 | apo` | No, _dirname.talk |
| 00:32:45 | Kohlrabi | ah |
| 00:32:50 | Kohlrabi | so NOT the name |
| 00:32:53 | apo` | Nope |
| 00:32:55 | Kohlrabi | *confused* |
| 00:33:02 | apo` | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto |
| 00:33:02 | apo` | ^^ |
| 00:33:11 | Kohlrabi | yeah, OK ;) |
| 00:33:11 | apo` | Speaking / spelling directories and file numbers < That part |
| 00:33:32 | apo` | I dislike the way MS Sam pronounces stuff and am doing it myself :) |
| 00:34:22 | Kohlrabi | so |
| 00:34:30 | Kohlrabi | the sh-script seems best to me, then |
| 00:34:36 | Kohlrabi | like stated before |
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| 00:34:54 | apo` | But... uh... what does it do? ^^; |
| 00:35:07 | Kohlrabi | well |
| 00:35:07 | Kohlrabi | hmm |
| 00:35:18 | apo` | And as I said, the files are in hundreds of different directories |
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| 00:35:42 | Kohlrabi | Do you have any means of discriminating talk files from actual music? |
| 00:36:12 | apo` | The talk files are just called .mp3 |
| 00:36:17 | apo` | Music has proper names |
| 00:36:18 | Kohlrabi | ah mkay |
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| 00:41:01 | apo` | 和田薫 < Heh, how do I pronounce _this_? xD |
| 00:41:39 | sharpe | well, because it's unicode, to me, box-space-box-space-box-space. :) |
| 00:42:19 | apo` | ^^ |
| 00:42:50 | XavierGr | apo: the last character is the kanji for car in japanese? |
| 00:42:53 | XavierGr | (kuruma) |
| 00:43:02 | apo` | Nah, smell |
| 00:43:05 | XavierGr | ah |
| 00:43:32 | XavierGr | I don't know kanji, that last symbol though reminded me that. (the only one I remember) |
| 00:43:46 | webguest96 | shouf i do max on battery in system? |
| 00:43:50 | webguest96 | shoud |
| 00:43:56 | midkay | no. |
| 00:44:04 | apo` | Harmony Rice Field Smell :P |
| 00:44:05 | midkay | leave it where it is if you have no idea what it's for or what to set it to. |
| 00:44:20 | XavierGr | apo: which kanji is for 'car'? |
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| 00:44:48 | apo` | 車種【しゃしゅ】 |
| 00:45:02 | apo` | The first one |
| 00:45:21 | amiconn | grmph |
| 00:45:31 | sharpe | amiconn: troubles? |
| 00:45:49 | amiconn | Loads of gibberish chars here... |
| 00:46:05 | BHSPitMonkey | I got some nice asian chars |
| 00:46:10 | [HO]vo|t | alright i'm back. |
| 00:46:27 | apo` | poor amiconn, he doesn't have UTF-8 :P |
| 00:46:45 | [HO]vo|t | i've been out of the mp3 player market recently, can someone give me a nice notebook harddrive based player that can take my 60gb? |
| 00:46:49 | amiconn | No, Win1252 here |
| 00:46:57 | [HO]vo|t | give me = give me ideas * |
| 00:47:10 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 00:47:35 | BHSPitMonkey | notebook or a DAP? |
| 00:47:37 | [HO]vo|t | yeah, i started soldering on that mini pcb which was using like 26 or 28 or 400awg wires |
| 00:47:46 | [HO]vo|t | i have a notebook drive |
| 00:47:55 | BHSPitMonkey | oh |
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| 00:48:33 | [HO]vo|t | i had a fm recorder v2 with a 60gb drive upgrade, but the headphone jack went out and i failed at repairing it |
| 00:48:42 | JasonJT | Hi |
| 00:48:47 | [HO]vo|t | Helo. |
| 00:48:51 | sharpe | Hello. |
| 00:48:53 | JasonJT | haven't been here for ages |
| 00:48:59 | [HO]vo|t | That's what I meant to say. |
| 00:49:04 | JasonJT | hi vo\t and sharpe |
| 00:49:27 | * | BHSPitMonkey lifts up [HO]vo|t's leaning name |
| 00:49:42 | JasonJT | I just wondered if the iPod 5G could record, either through the headphone or dock connectors |
| 00:49:51 | BHSPitMonkey | it -could- |
| 00:50:06 | JasonJT | well i know the dock connector can do all sorts of things |
| 00:50:09 | BHSPitMonkey | theoretically, it has the hardware to do it I believe. |
| 00:50:24 | JasonJT | i've purchased an in-car charger which is also an FM radio transmitter |
| 00:50:38 | [HO]vo|t | So, should I get another Recorder V2 or explore other notebook hard drive based players? If the latter, which units? |
| 00:50:46 | BHSPitMonkey | a nano has a dock, but it can't record. |
| 00:50:50 | JasonJT | i wish my H120 didn't break |
| 00:50:52 | [HO]vo|t | i would love sticking with a rockbox based unit |
| 00:50:58 | BHSPitMonkey | has to have the right chips and dip inside |
| 00:51:00 | JasonJT | it had awesome recording functions |
| 00:51:06 | [HO]vo|t | chips and dip lol |
| 00:51:37 | JasonJT | Has anyone heard of EVP (electronic voice phenomena?) |
| 00:52:13 | JasonJT | (hearing voices in static recordings) |
| 00:52:34 | sharpe | JasonJT: heard of them, haven't actually recorded any myself. |
| 00:52:44 | [HO]vo|t | If I were to want to find a used Recorder V2, would someone closely related to Rockbox be able to hook me up? |
| 00:52:48 | JasonJT | see the film White Noise for details |
| 00:53:06 | sharpe | JasonJT: i've seen it. didn't like the ending much. |
| 00:53:24 | JasonJT | why didn't u like the ending? |
| 00:53:28 | sharpe | or well, didn't like the middle much, ending was alright. |
| 00:53:31 | JasonJT | i've seen it as well? |
| 00:54:46 | sharpe | eh, just got less interesting in the middle as he became obsessed with the whole thing. kinda. |
| 00:55:06 | JasonJT | oh right |
| 00:55:21 | JasonJT | I must admit i got confused over those 3 figures that were being seen in the TV static |
| 00:55:49 | sharpe | i saw the movie a few days after it came out in theatres, can't remember much of it. |
| 00:56:15 | JasonJT | it was about that man contacting his dead wife through TV and audio static |
| 00:56:22 | sharpe | yeah. |
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| 00:57:08 | midkay | whoa, it's track, isn't it. |
| 00:57:34 | JasonJT | anyway this iPod 5g is pretty good |
| 00:57:40 | JasonJT | got the white one 60gig |
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| 00:57:53 | CreativePony | Neigh |
| 00:58:04 | midkay | haha. |
| 00:58:08 | sharpe | heheh... |
| 00:58:19 | JasonJT | hahaha |
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| 00:58:46 | CreativePony | I just wanted to find out if its normal for a sort of snowey staticy horizontal bar to slide down the screen of H140's when rockbox is doing its 33 shades of grey emulation dealie? |
| 00:58:54 | midkay | sharpe, if you were to do that laugh in real life it would sound something like "heh heh", right? |
| 00:58:55 | JasonJT | whatever happened to mikeholden |
| 00:59:05 | sharpe | midkay: yes. |
| 00:59:12 | midkay | alright. |
| 00:59:16 | sharpe | okay. |
| 00:59:36 | midkay | CreativePony, yes, it is.. |
| 00:59:47 | CreativePony | nothing I can do about it? |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:06 | midkay | not really, since the 33 shades are trickery. |
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| 01:01:30 | CreativePony | okie |
| 01:01:52 | CreativePony | I'm impressed that someone managed to do it, smart stuff! |
| 01:02:13 | midkay | indeed, that'd be pretty much amiconn. |
| 01:02:27 | CreativePony | I installed rockbox the night before last and its fantastic, sans a few plugins freezing my player |
| 01:02:36 | midkay | CreativePony, ooh, which ones? |
| 01:02:43 | [HO]vo|t | To everyone: What MP3 playing device do you use, and what are the pros/cons of it? |
| 01:02:50 | CreativePony | mm, can't remember |
| 01:03:02 | CreativePony | if it happens again i'll be sure to write it down though |
| 01:03:21 | midkay | CreativePony, good, you should file some bug reports (or one with a list of such plugins). |
| 01:03:23 | sharpe | then you'd give midkay something to do. |
| 01:03:30 | * | CreativePony nods |
| 01:03:37 | midkay | nah, haven't touched rockbox code for probably a month. |
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| 01:04:07 | sharpe | midkay: what about that... you know, the spinv code... hahah... |
| 01:04:14 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 01:04:46 | sharpe | so far, over a day and i'm still working on malloc(). |
| 01:04:59 | midkay | booo. |
| 01:05:32 | [HO]vo|t | would anyone happen to have or know how to find a rockbox sanctioned player without a hard drive? |
| 01:05:38 | CreativePony | My only real gripe is that its harder to switch between fm, reccording, and playback, having to dig through menu's |
| 01:05:43 | * | scorche attempts to think of a dog with a name similar to malloc for the purposes of teh funny |
| 01:06:35 | midkay | haha. |
| 01:06:48 | midkay | CreativePony, well, fm and recording are always in the main menu.. |
| 01:06:56 | midkay | and playback is just kind of default, if you're not in those modes. |
| 01:06:56 | sharpe | yeah, because we can still make fun of the similarities between my name and "Shar Pei." |
| 01:07:08 | CreativePony | ya, i kinda liked just holding a button for that |
| 01:07:11 | scorche | can too |
| 01:07:15 | midkay | might take a bit of getting used to, but it shouldn't be hard to get around once you're used to things. |
| 01:07:22 | sharpe | scorche: never said you couldn't. |
| 01:07:23 | midkay | a button for that may come at some point.. *shrugs* |
| 01:07:31 | midkay | haha. |
| 01:07:35 | CreativePony | that, and i'm a chess addict, but music can't be controled without exiting chessbox yet |
| 01:07:50 | midkay | the playback menu could be put in.. |
| 01:07:59 | midkay | that'd be a nice feature request. |
| 01:08:02 | sharpe | hmm... odd... calling malloc with arguments of 16, 32, and 64 return the same addresses, and size... |
| 01:08:13 | midkay | we care, sharpe, we care/ |
| 01:08:21 | CreativePony | i looked up the plugin's page in the wiki, it looks like menu's and things are planned already |
| 01:08:22 | sharpe | midkay: i know. that's why i announced that. |
| 01:08:35 | midkay | CreativePony, yeah, probably eventually. |
| 01:08:39 | midkay | sharpe, well, good then. |
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| 01:11:21 | [HO]vo|t | can you upgrade iriver hard drives |
| 01:14:08 | [HO]vo|t | s0ap: i cannot PM |
| 01:14:27 | S0ap | then register |
| 01:15:42 | scorche | with nickserv |
| 01:15:46 | [HO]vo|t | gotcha |
| 01:17:43 | sharpe | i find it amazing how values in a struct aren't set, after setting them. |
| 01:18:15 | scorche | i find it amusing how wrinkly our resident dog is |
| 01:18:27 | scorche | *amazing |
| 01:18:29 | scorche | =P |
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| 01:18:56 | sharpe | har, har. |
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| 01:19:27 | CreativePony | why do all the themes I try except the default, in h140 rockbox always have text all out of alignment? should I try and upgrade rockbox often till it gets fixed, or is it the themes that need fixing? |
| 01:20:10 | sharpe | chances are, the themes requires a patch. |
| 01:20:20 | * | CreativePony grunts |
| 01:20:21 | sharpe | which you most likely don't have... |
| 01:20:23 | CreativePony | all of them? |
| 01:20:37 | Genre9mp3 | CreativePony: Do you use the right font? |
| 01:20:49 | CreativePony | how would I know? |
| 01:21:10 | Genre9mp3 | choose the wps from "Browse Themes" |
| 01:21:32 | CreativePony | thats what I did.. |
| 01:22:19 | PaulJam_ | CreativePony: have you installed the fonts? (they are not included in the daily bilds) |
| 01:22:36 | CreativePony | no.. where do I get them? |
| 01:22:44 | sharpe | ahah! a clue. |
| 01:22:54 | CreativePony | yay? |
| 01:22:58 | PaulJam_ | on the daily builds page |
| 01:23:11 | sharpe | under the aptly named, "Fonts" |
| 01:23:21 | Genre9mp3 | CreativePony: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/fonts/rockbox-fonts-20060714.zip |
| 01:23:34 | CreativePony | aha! |
| 01:23:53 | CreativePony | well that's annoying o^ |
| 01:24:11 | * | CreativePony hooks up its umbilical cord again and see's if everything turns perfect suddenly.. |
| 01:24:20 | sharpe | hmm... |
| 01:24:27 | midkay | sharpe, "the themes requires a patch"? |
| 01:24:44 | sharpe | meh. wpses. |
| 01:25:02 | midkay | "the wpses requires a patch"? |
| 01:25:24 | scorche | or else it gets the hose again? |
| 01:25:48 | sharpe | there's nothing about lotion there scorche. |
| 01:25:55 | scorche | so? |
| 01:26:15 | sharpe | patch and again don't rhyme. |
| 01:26:26 | scorche | SO? |
| 01:26:41 | CreativePony | aha! all better! |
| 01:26:45 | midkay | sharpe, you don't see the massive grammar flaw you made? |
| 01:26:46 | * | CreativePony whinny's happily |
| 01:26:55 | sharpe | midkay: yes, i see it. |
| 01:27:00 | midkay | twice. |
| 01:27:03 | midkay | that's TWO points for me. |
| 01:27:07 | midkay | haha. |
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| 01:27:28 | sharpe | oh, i finally got around to installing ventrilo. :) |
| 01:27:53 | * | CreativePony dances |
| 01:28:32 | sharpe | hrrmph. who knew there was a http://godweb.org/ ? |
| 01:29:08 | amiconn | omg |
| 01:29:10 | scorche | uh oh.. |
| 01:29:22 | sharpe | who's logo's colors are a play on google's logo... |
| 01:29:29 | CreativePony | how does one, in rockbox, clear the current playlist, playing a specific folder's contents after the current track finishes? (instead of stoping the current track) |
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| 01:35:27 | sharpe | something in my code doesn't like me... |
| 01:35:37 | apo` | *sighs* Now if only I could let rockbox play .talk files when going through artists in tagcache |
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| 01:37:08 | sharpe | well, i'm baffled. |
| 01:38:33 | * | CreativePony curses those evil code gremlins.. its microsofts doing! sabotaging open source via freaky bug inducing mind waves broadcast via their sattellite system, to which their own buildings are not shielded from.. the fatal flaw.. |
| 01:44:38 | sharpe | hmm? |
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| 01:48:52 | S0ap | godweb has flashing text and background images! |
| 01:50:05 | sharpe | okay. |
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| 01:53:58 | CreativePony | <blink>I ARR ANNOYING</blink> |
| 01:54:22 | sharpe | you missed an 'e' there... :D |
| 01:56:56 | * | CreativePony whinny's playfully |
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| 02:00:13 | sharpe | why are the struct's members not being set, after setting them... anyone? |
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| 02:01:00 | CreativePony | unionism |
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| 02:05:59 | earHertz | Hye sharpe, where's teh US capital loacted? |
| 02:06:16 | sharpe | earHertz: within the country...? |
| 02:06:19 | CreativePony | In america |
| 02:06:24 | earHertz | yeah |
| 02:06:41 | sharpe | District of Columbia... |
| 02:06:53 | earHertz | sharpe: DC,C? |
| 02:07:21 | sharpe | Washington D.C. ... wait, why do you need to know? |
| 02:07:28 | * | earHertz has left irc.freenode.net (Client quite.) |
| 02:07:29 | * | CreativePony hoof kicks earHertz 'Neigh!' |
| 02:07:41 | * | earHertz laughs evilly |
| 02:16:45 | * | CreativePony droops her ears out to the sides seeing rain outside.. one more day she cant go sit down by the river playing chessbox |
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| 02:19:39 | sharpe | bah... i had this working slightly, before.. even though then i was using the physical address, and now i'm using the virtual. but even if i try the physical address, it still doesn't work. |
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| 02:29:06 | earHertz | CreativePony: you a furry? |
| 02:29:19 | CreativePony | nup, guess again |
| 02:29:41 | earHertz | um, an AOLer? |
| 02:29:50 | CreativePony | nup |
| 02:30:17 | earHertz | sharpe: is CreativePony realy midkay? |
| 02:30:22 | CreativePony | nope |
| 02:30:32 | CreativePony | CreativePony is a girl in australia |
| 02:31:07 | earHertz | oh, ok, an Ozzie |
| 02:31:14 | sharpe | earHertz: as funny as it would be, doesn't seem so. |
| 02:31:18 | earHertz | lol |
| 02:31:22 | CreativePony | I am someone with a spiritual belief that my soul is that of a mare, and that ones brains are an interface to ones soul, and that brains contain little of the actual person |
| 02:31:44 | Quarryman | CreativePony: and where does the soul exist? |
| 02:31:56 | CreativePony | Why would I know |
| 02:32:01 | earHertz | Quarryman: Schenectedy, NY |
| 02:32:58 | earHertz | I bet the soles of CreativePony |
| 02:33:05 | earHertz | s feet are really hard |
| 02:33:22 | * | CreativePony is a horse not a horse expert, she dunno where all the bits are o^ |
| 02:34:01 | earHertz | the bit goes in teh mouth. the other bits are at the glue factory |
| 02:34:14 | CreativePony | glue isn't made of horses o^ |
| 02:34:55 | CreativePony | and the hoof goes in the belly if you try and put tack on me without asking nicely |
| 02:34:59 | earHertz | It's not? I've been ripped off! |
| 02:35:11 | CreativePony | nah, these days its made of glue |
| 02:35:15 | earHertz | I'll try to be tack-tful |
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| 02:35:38 | sharpe | wow. what does it mean if i glance at a bottle of 'Jet Dry' and think it's mouthwash, until i actually looked at it... |
| 02:35:54 | scorche | it means you should drink it |
| 02:35:57 | earHertz | wtf's jet dry? |
| 02:36:06 | CreativePony | nono, don't drink it! |
| 02:36:13 | CreativePony | its jet dry you fool! |
| 02:36:13 | Mikachu | will i regret google imagesing it as much as i did 'jenna fox,? |
| 02:36:25 | sharpe | earHertz: dishwashing machine liquid type stuff. |
| 02:36:32 | earHertz | but not as much as tubgirl |
| 02:36:43 | scorche | lemon party? |
| 02:36:44 | * | CreativePony ponders taking her real name off irc |
| 02:37:03 | Mikachu | that is your real name? heh |
| 02:37:14 | earHertz | The dingo ate her real name |
| 02:37:23 | CreativePony | if you want to see the pony, you should ask nicely, and i could give you my flickr address.. |
| 02:37:30 | S0ap | Jet Dry is a dishwashing machine additive you add to the rinse cycle to prevent spotting. |
| 02:37:33 | Mikachu | i'll live |
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| 02:37:46 | S0ap | oh, sharpe already answered, my bad. |
| 02:38:09 | earHertz | huh. does it work on carry-out food? |
| 02:38:14 | sharpe | S0ap: it's okay, you're more qualified to answer it. since, you're 'soap.' you know. |
| 02:38:20 | S0ap | lol |
| 02:38:22 | scorche | does anyone else find it amusing that someone named soap answered that question? |
| 02:38:27 | scorche | bah you |
| 02:38:32 | sharpe | i'm on a roll today. |
| 02:38:44 | S0ap | I'll be Soap in a couple of weeks when they kill my old account (lost password) |
| 02:39:00 | earHertz | be soup |
| 02:39:18 | sharpe | then i can bring up the same topic, and then it will be even funnier... :\ |
| 02:39:27 | S0ap | mmm, horse soup |
| 02:39:37 | earHertz | S0ap: you're french? |
| 02:40:25 | S0ap | no |
| 02:41:07 | earHertz | what do you call afrench guy riding a horse? |
| 02:41:57 | sharpe | i don't know. an equestrian? |
| 02:42:18 | midkay | a french fry?! |
| 02:42:21 | earHertz | a vegetarian |
| 02:43:23 | midkay | that makes no sense at all. |
| 02:43:24 | CreativePony | you are horrible, S0ap |
| 02:43:29 | earHertz | what do you call a black guy who's flying a plane? |
| 02:43:36 | sharpe | a pilot. |
| 02:43:40 | Mikachu | a pilot |
| 02:43:45 | idnar | bwahaha |
| 02:43:48 | earHertz | argh |
| 02:44:02 | idnar | I think that joke has already made the rounds :P |
| 02:44:15 | earHertz | How many femonists does it take to chnage a light bulb? |
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| 02:49:52 | midkay | ten. |
| 02:50:01 | sharpe | indifference. |
| 02:50:04 | midkay | one to change it and fifty nine to .. like.. stand there. |
| 02:53:49 | earHertz | (in a shrill, idignant, high-pitched femalwe voice) THAT'S NOT FUNNY |
| 02:54:58 | midkay | haha. |
| 02:55:25 | midkay | and i thought earHertz was a respectable, responsible, morally-correct coder with good intentions. |
| 02:55:47 | earHertz | so much for that |
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| 02:57:02 | sharpe | indeed. |
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| 03:00:41 | earHertz | http://www.viceland.com/int/dd.php?id=129&country=us |
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| 03:07:52 | Landus | Dunno if anything special will happen, but I'm making a misticriver account now. Anyone want to be my 'referrer'? |
| 03:08:06 | Landus | Offer ending in ten seconds. |
| 03:08:19 | Landus | Over. |
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| 03:09:08 | midkay | haha. |
| 03:09:15 | midkay | that was 13 seconds! |
| 03:10:18 | XavierGr | ME |
| 03:10:23 | XavierGr | ah |
| 03:10:30 | XavierGr | I was late |
| 03:11:20 | XavierGr | I saw the message when I was doing something else and thought that you were talking about football. |
| 03:11:41 | XavierGr | (I saw referrer as referee) |
| 03:12:48 | midkay | "who wants to be my referee"? |
| 03:12:51 | midkay | that makes a lot of sense. |
| 03:12:51 | midkay | :) |
| 03:13:07 | Genre9mp3 | XavierGr: You already have 2 |
| 03:13:25 | XavierGr | well why not reach 3? :P |
| 03:13:36 | XavierGr | And in fact I don't even remember were I got those 2 |
| 03:13:49 | XavierGr | midkay: :D |
| 03:13:53 | midkay | XavierGr, haha. |
| 03:14:16 | pixelma | 3 referees? :P |
| 03:14:30 | midkay | haha. |
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| 03:16:03 | shriphani | guys i still cant sync vorbis to my ipod |
| 03:17:20 | Galois | do you run rockbox? |
| 03:17:41 | shriphani | yes |
| 03:17:52 | Galois | just drag your files into the ipod folder, no need to sync |
| 03:18:24 | shriphani | and will i see them in my id3 database ? |
| 03:18:49 | Galois | I think you need to re-run the tagcache thingy |
| 03:18:55 | Galois | I don't actually know, since I don't use tagcache |
| 03:19:21 | shriphani | so you have dozens of folders in your ipod ? |
| 03:19:58 | shriphani | cuz F00 and F01 are a pain to navigate in |
| 03:19:58 | Galois | it's not too bad if you nest them |
| 03:20:08 | Galois | and name them with useful names, obviously |
| 03:20:10 | Galois | not F00 |
| 03:20:21 | shriphani | ok |
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| 03:20:47 | shriphani | ad you plainly edit the songs ? |
| 03:20:53 | shriphani | i mean the names |
| 03:21:54 | Galois | yes, I name the songs with useful names too, it's not too hard with a bash script |
| 03:22:24 | shriphani | i mean the names? |
| 03:22:29 | shriphani | sheesh |
| 03:22:38 | shriphani | which script is hat ? |
| 03:22:45 | shriphani | that ^ |
| 03:22:52 | Galois | uh, one that I write from scratch every time I need it |
| 03:23:26 | shriphani | oh |
| 03:23:48 | shriphani | so would it be fine if i plaily rename them or should i edit the id3 tags also |
| 03:24:03 | Galois | you might be better off asking someone who uses the id3 database |
| 03:25:01 | shriphani | no i would leave tag cache to play vorbis on it :) |
| 03:25:17 | Galois | I'm pretty sure tagcache works with vorbis comments |
| 03:25:35 | shriphani | but is there a program to sync such things to the ipod ? |
| 03:25:50 | Galois | tagcache runs entirely on the ipod, there's no program needed on the computer |
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| 03:26:23 | shriphani | no i am talking of syncing vorbis to the ipod |
| 03:26:52 | Galois | there's no syncing involved, you just copy your files over using windows explorer, or mount/cp, or whatever you normally use to copy files in your computer |
| 03:27:05 | shriphani | ok |
| 03:27:23 | shriphani | so i cant sync |
| 03:27:36 | Galois | you can't sync, and you don't need to sync |
| 03:27:46 | shriphani | yes |
| 03:28:00 | shriphani | so i shasll nest them this evening thanks |
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| 03:39:45 | excitatory | Galois: amarok manages media on rockbox devices very nicely. :D |
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| 03:40:07 | Galois | I use amarok, but I haven't gotten around to telling it about rockbox yet |
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| 03:57:53 | excitatory | Galois: well, i just use it's generic vfat media device mode.. send stuff to the transfer queue from the collection, then it organizes the music by artsist and album.. if you have properly tagged music, no need to mess around with tagcache (which i would love more if it didn't drain my battery so much) |
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| 04:34:46 | Landus | I think I remember seeing an option that displays what folder I'm in? |
| 04:34:51 | Landus | Anyone know where it is? |
| 04:37:11 | midkay | no such option.. |
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| 04:41:22 | Hyperpenguin | Hi there! May I ask a question? |
| 04:41:32 | sharpe | Sure! |
| 04:41:36 | Hyperpenguin | All right. |
| 04:41:57 | Hyperpenguin | On my iPod mini (1st gen), the tag cache is working strangely. |
| 04:42:29 | sharpe | howso? |
| 04:42:50 | Hyperpenguin | I had it set to use directory cache and to keep the cache on disk, but it doesn't appear to be accessing it |
| 04:43:50 | Hyperpenguin | It always says "Next song: ?" |
| 04:44:41 | sharpe | hmm... i don't use tagcache... |
| 04:45:35 | Hyperpenguin | Hmm, appears to be working now. Odd. Didn't work on first reboot. |
| 04:46:03 | sharpe | :) |
| 04:46:33 | Hyperpenguin | Maybe I didn't leave it for long enough to read the cache. |
| 04:47:03 | Hyperpenguin | Well, nevermind then. See ya! |
| 04:47:09 | sharpe | goodbye |
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| 04:47:36 | sharpe | well. glad i can help people. |
| 04:48:18 | scorche` | it is what dogs do! |
| 04:48:47 | sharpe | this will be the fourth time i try to implement malloc()/free()... |
| 04:49:26 | earHertz | sharpe: what strategy are you using? |
| 04:49:28 | Landus | Isn't the third time supposed to be the charm? |
| 04:49:47 | sharpe | Landus: apparently not. |
| 04:49:51 | sharpe | earHertz: hmm? |
| 04:50:02 | earHertz | first fit, best fit, what? |
| 04:50:11 | sharpe | first fit |
| 04:54:20 | sharpe | words of wisdom, earHertz? |
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| 04:59:09 | midkay | words of stupidity, sharpe? |
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| 05:00:12 | sharpe | those are fighting words, midkay. |
| 05:00:25 | midkay | no, really?! |
| 05:00:31 | sharpe | :) |
| 05:00:58 | midkay | alright, who wants to see a deliciously rendered chess piece. |
| 05:01:22 | sharpe | from the look of your forum tags. nah, i'm good. |
| 05:01:31 | midkay | tags? |
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| 05:01:46 | scorche` | ha |
| 05:01:54 | scorche` | you should see his deviant art site |
| 05:02:00 | midkay | what do you mean, tags?! |
| 05:02:06 | midkay | here it is! http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/259/mxcldefaultki2.jpg !!! |
| 05:02:55 | midkay | it's not "deviant art". it's "deviantart", "deviantART" or "dA". |
| 05:03:07 | sharpe | wow |
| 05:03:16 | sharpe | i was typing rook, and it came out as 'work' |
| 05:03:17 | scorche` | lame... |
| 05:03:30 | midkay | it's not a rook you tart. it's a queen, i think. |
| 05:03:38 | sharpe | yeah. good one. |
| 05:04:02 | scorche` | midkay: it sucks |
| 05:04:07 | sharpe | i didn't say if i was referring to the chess piece being a rook, now did i? |
| 05:04:17 | midkay | scorche`: *you* suck. on something of mine. |
| 05:04:32 | midkay | what could you possibly be typing involving the word "rook"? |
| 05:04:34 | scorche` | and that is too a rook |
| 05:04:37 | midkay | something like.. "that's not a rook!"? |
| 05:04:41 | midkay | wait. |
| 05:04:44 | midkay | it is a rook isn't it. |
| 05:04:48 | scorche` | yes |
| 05:04:49 | sharpe | yes. |
| 05:04:51 | midkay | what was i thinking. |
| 05:04:52 | midkay | :EEE |
| 05:05:03 | sharpe | trying to prove me wrong but failing horribly. |
| 05:05:12 | midkay | alright, 2 points for you |
| 05:05:25 | midkay | that's like.. 3:5000 right? i'm leading. |
| 05:06:14 | sharpe | wow. chess strategies on wikipedia. |
| 05:08:17 | sharpe | hmm... what data type should i use to define allocated block sizes... |
| 05:10:51 | scorche` | dog_wrinkles |
| 05:13:13 | sharpe | should i use one struct for used and free, or a seperate one for each, with different data? |
| 05:14:07 | midkay | should sharpe stop talking about this stuff that nobody cares about, or just stop talking altogether? |
| 05:14:23 | sharpe | you tell me. |
| 05:14:44 | midkay | the latter! |
| 05:17:01 | sharpe | whatever. |
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| 05:36:14 | earHertz | sharpe: for free, typically you have a linked list; for used a length. Typically you do this as a union |
| 05:37:09 | sharpe | 'kays... |
| 05:37:34 | earHertz | the C standard guarentttes that an aggregate type can be cast to teh type of its first member |
| 05:38:08 | sharpe | ah. |
| 05:38:59 | earHertz | basicallt, free nodes form a linked list, each pointing to the next free node (or null, for the last item in teh list) |
| 05:39:21 | sharpe | that actually was what i was planning on |
| 05:39:22 | earHertz | the other member is a length |
| 05:40:07 | earHertz | for used, you just have a length; the caller gets the address of the first word after that length (you want to return word-aligned memory, of cousre) |
| 05:40:39 | earHertz | when teh casller cllas free on the memepry, you know twh length data is at passed addrss - 4 |
| 05:41:23 | earHertz | you then find the end of your list (eitehr end, it's up to you) and add the freed memort to the free list |
| 05:41:39 | earHertz | at this point you also coalesce any adjacent free blocks |
| 05:42:27 | earHertz | Of course, i assume you're doing this yourself as a learning exercise; otherwise, there are mamy exiting implementations that are better than what we'd likely come up with |
| 05:42:39 | sharpe | yep. |
| 05:42:47 | sharpe | and thanks for the information |
| 05:42:51 | earHertz | np |
| 05:44:11 | earHertz | I beleuve thers a malloc implementation in teh rockbox source. no? |
| 05:44:16 | sharpe | indeed |
| 05:47:10 | sharpe | from what i understand by what you say, the linked list will not be in order, they may be pointing either to a block before or after them, right? |
| 05:47:24 | earHertz | well, it's up to you |
| 05:47:33 | earHertz | if they are in order, it's easier to coalesce |
| 05:47:41 | sharpe | yeh |
| 05:47:57 | earHertz | if they are not in ordr, you don't have to bother keeping them in order |
| 05:48:09 | sharpe | heh, a tradeoff... |
| 05:48:14 | earHertz | But I'd keep them in order, by basically doing an insertion sort |
| 05:48:25 | sharpe | alright |
| 05:48:26 | earHertz | and I'd coalesce at the same time |
| 05:49:30 | earHertz | the othe rpossiblity is to order th eblocks by size; this makes doing best fit easier |
| 05:50:58 | earHertz | I only recall looking at free lsit code once, but i RECALL IT WAS DAMNED COUNTER-INTUITIVE |
| 05:51:04 | earHertz | sorry |
| 05:51:08 | sharpe | lol |
| 05:51:44 | earHertz | You ever looked at any of Knuth's code? |
| 05:52:02 | sharpe | can't say i have... nor know who that is. |
| 05:52:21 | earHertz | The author of the six volume art of compeer programming |
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| 05:52:27 | sharpe | ah. |
| 05:52:57 | earHertz | anyway, the "normal" linked list uses a pointer to next, right? |
| 05:53:08 | sharpe | si |
| 05:53:27 | earHertz | Knuth loves to use arrays, where each array element contains the offset of teh next element |
| 05:53:47 | earHertz | I think teh free list implementation I looked at used that |
| 05:53:56 | sharpe | heh |
| 05:54:00 | earHertz | I never fails to hurt my brain |
| 05:54:11 | earHertz | but it's damned efficient |
| 05:54:42 | earHertz | iI used it when I wrote a state machine for rockbox (for something I decided not to do, ultimately) |
| 05:54:52 | earHertz | because it makes for very effiecient lists |
| 05:54:58 | earHertz | but it hurts my head |
| 05:55:09 | sharpe | heheh |
| 06:00 |
| 06:01:29 | earHertz | hey! the fourth google result for "malloc free implementation" is an email from me to the rockbox list |
| 06:01:52 | sharpe | hahah. |
| 06:02:03 | earHertz | that's so bizarre |
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| 06:17:18 | sharpe | earHertz: for the used and the free blocks, each typically is a union? |
| 06:17:33 | earHertz | no, you use one union to represent both |
| 06:17:38 | sharpe | alright. |
| 06:18:52 | sharpe | so in the union, for the free blocks, they'd use a pointer to the next free block, and for the used block, it'd use the length? |
| 06:19:07 | earHertz | struct block { size_t block_size union { block* next_block ; char data[] } } |
| 06:19:22 | earHertz | you need length in both |
| 06:19:40 | sharpe | i thought you meant that... |
| 06:20:46 | sharpe | hmm. things to do, things to do... |
| 06:32:19 | sharpe | hey earHertz, how am i going to differentiate between the used and free blocks? |
| 06:32:50 | earHertz | used blocks aren't in your list anymore |
| 06:33:11 | sharpe | oh, if there isn't an item pointing to it... |
| 06:33:25 | earHertz | yeah, it's off the list, there's no way for you to reach it |
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| 07:07:58 | Harry | hello |
| 07:08:04 | Harry | the wikis back |
| 07:08:06 | Harry | ya |
| 07:08:18 | Harry | yo |
| 07:08:24 | Harry | the twikis back |
| 07:08:31 | Harry | it works now |
| 07:08:40 | Harry | change topic |
| 07:08:46 | sharpe | it's been online for a while |
| 07:08:52 | Harry | lol |
| 07:09:24 | Harry | why r the at&t voice files gone |
| 07:09:56 | sharpe | they were requested to be taken down by at&t. |
| 07:10:35 | | Quit Harry (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 07:11:32 | earHertz | sharpe: huh? |
| 07:11:46 | sharpe | earHertz: ? |
| 07:11:58 | earHertz | at&t, I missed that |
| 07:12:33 | sharpe | missed what? |
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| 07:12:51 | earHertz | what were the at&t files, and why did at&t asked they be taken down? |
| 07:13:03 | Llorean | They were voice files |
| 07:13:04 | sharpe | the voice files. |
| 07:13:15 | Llorean | AT&T's license is unclear as to whether you can redistribute recordings of their voices. |
| 07:13:34 | Llorean | It *seems* to say that recordings of it can be redistributed when not for profit. But, it also seems to say you can't. |
| 07:13:37 | earHertz | at&t found out we had them and asked theny be taken down? |
| 07:14:03 | Llorean | I'm not sure they really understood what use we were making of them, possibly. |
| 07:17:10 | earHertz | I oh wow, this is cool: http://www.souptoys.com/get_toybox.php |
| 07:17:16 | earHertz | just don't let it phone home |
| 07:17:19 | earHertz | it'll try |
| 07:17:40 | Llorean | It kinda looks like TIM without objectives? |
| 07:17:46 | sharpe | it's cute. |
| 07:17:50 | earHertz | tim? |
| 07:18:13 | Llorean | The Incredible Machine |
| 07:18:55 | sharpe | oh, i remember that... |
| 07:19:09 | sharpe | i think i may still have the cd around. |
| 07:22:43 | earHertz | it's got a catapult |
| 07:25:43 | sharpe | earHertz: implement a perpetual motion device in it |
| 07:25:54 | earHertz | that's illega; |
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| 07:41:37 | Harry | hell |
| 07:41:40 | Harry | o |
| 07:41:51 | Harry | i might make a wps |
| 07:42:04 | Harry | it seems easy |
| 07:42:15 | Harry | i read the faq |
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| 07:46:12 | CreativePony | There's a bug in rockbox for h120/h140.. on the yes/no screens (like when trying to delete a file) it says "PLAY = Yes", when pressing play infact fires No, and SELECT fires Yes.. |
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| 07:57:13 | earHertz | CreativePony: add a bug to the bug tracker |
| 07:58:34 | | Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) |
| 07:58:48 | * | CreativePony is trying to decode cryptic C source code to fix it herself, with little success |
| 07:58:54 | CreativePony | okay, I guess that will work too |
| 07:59:42 | earHertz | the C source will be in menu.c (probbaly), and depend on the value of a button. It may just be that teh button mapping srae wrong |
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| 08:00:42 | CreativePony | Ahh, I was looking in yesno.c |
| 08:00:56 | earHertz | umm, yesno is probbay right, my bad |
| 08:02:41 | midgey34 | its actually in english.lang I think |
| 08:02:53 | earHertz | midgey34: wtf? |
| 08:03:10 | midgey34 | so it can be translated to other languages |
| 08:03:19 | CreativePony | oooooh |
| 08:03:34 | midgey34 | search for "PLAY = Yes" |
| 08:04:02 | midgey34 | I believe its a known issue but it may have been forgotten |
| 08:04:11 | earHertz | I don't think CreativePony wants to chnage the label, she wants to chnage teh action |
| 08:04:17 | midgey34 | oh |
| 08:04:36 | sharpe | could just.. switch the statements in the string :) |
| 08:04:45 | midgey34 | maybe I read it wrong |
| 08:05:00 | CreativePony | no no |
| 08:05:06 | CreativePony | I quite like the way it is |
| 08:05:12 | CreativePony | just as personal preference |
| 08:07:14 | CreativePony | oh wait.. |
| 08:07:37 | CreativePony | it doesn't seem to be able to switch the string depending on what kind of device you have.. I suppose some wouldn't have a select |
| 08:07:47 | CreativePony | i guess changing the string would be no good then |
| 08:09:47 | CreativePony | I probably have to install gcc and things to be able to test this stuff too :/ |
| 08:10:03 | earHertz | CreativePony: you under windows/ |
| 08:10:11 | CreativePony | no, ubuntu breezy |
| 08:10:28 | CreativePony | its package based, people aren't expected to compile things |
| 08:10:58 | earHertz | Just checkout the sdource. In the source, in tools, in rockboxdev.sh |
| 08:11:00 | earHertz | run that |
| 08:11:33 | CreativePony | okie |
| 08:11:50 | earHertz | tat'll set up all teh compiler you need to developr |
| 08:12:05 | CreativePony | need root? |
| 08:12:12 | earHertz | yah |
| 08:12:16 | CreativePony | okie |
| 08:12:41 | CreativePony | I just noticed gcc3.3 and 4.0 are installed already |
| 08:12:49 | CreativePony | maybe ubuntu does come with dev stuff |
| 08:12:52 | earHertz | yeah, but you need the cross compier |
| 08:13:36 | CreativePony | okie |
| 08:13:39 | * | CreativePony runs the script |
| 08:13:57 | * | CreativePony plays much vorbis in the mean time |
| 08:14:21 | CreativePony | this is kinda fun.. C has always scared me, so i've stuck to scripted stuff like ruby |
| 08:14:44 | earHertz | yeah, scared me at first too |
| 08:14:46 | earHertz | all teh voids |
| 08:14:50 | earHertz | but it' |
| 08:14:58 | CreativePony | I was thinking today about seeing if I could do anything interesting in a plugin.. I figure I should atleast manage a hello world |
| 08:14:58 | earHertz | it's very straight forward |
| 08:15:04 | earHertz | get a copy of K&R |
| 08:15:11 | CreativePony | K&R? |
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| 08:15:50 | earHertz | kernighan & ritchie's book |
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| 08:16:02 | CreativePony | I... don't know what that is |
| 08:16:19 | earHertz | K&R inventwed C. They wrote a book teching how to use it |
| 08:16:25 | earHertz | it's very accesable |
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| 08:16:44 | CreativePony | if its a giant book on programming, i'm not interested, the only way I can learn to code it just by persistantly making mistakes till they stop happening, I've tried books in the past |
| 08:16:54 | earHertz | no, it's less than 200 pagesw |
| 08:17:08 | earHertz | and they give you a bunch of tutorial examplres |
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| 08:18:06 | CreativePony | hmm |
| 08:18:11 | CreativePony | lotsa failures |
| 08:18:19 | CreativePony | seems like I don't have make o_o |
| 08:18:21 | earHertz | in the script? |
| 08:18:31 | * | CreativePony installs make |
| 08:18:34 | earHertz | oh, well apt-get |
| 08:19:04 | midgey34 | CraetivePony: to address a comment you made earlier, you can have different strings on different targets |
| 08:19:08 | CreativePony | that thingy tried to make lots of stuff, and didn't |
| 08:19:17 | CreativePony | oh? |
| 08:20:06 | midgey34 | in english.lang, where it says *: "PLAY = Yes" write h120: "SELECT = Yes" under it in both places |
| 08:20:13 | CreativePony | Hmm.. I guess I could add another string with an irivery name to it, and include that in those #ifdef thingys |
| 08:20:21 | sharpe | ahah, i believe it works so far. |
| 08:20:27 | CreativePony | ooooh |
| 08:20:30 | CreativePony | even better! |
| 08:20:40 | midgey34 | assuming you have an h120/140 and not an h110/h115 |
| 08:20:47 | CreativePony | I do |
| 08:21:51 | * | midgey34 considers putting a buggy Blackjack on the tracker |
| 08:22:28 | midgey34 | I'll be gone for 6 days; it's only fair I release I think |
| 08:22:53 | midgey34 | maybe let some other coders fix the two last bugs |
| 08:23:28 | CreativePony | Unreasonable feature request: Someone please make the line out output a PAL tv signal that I can plug in to my TV's AV input, and display rich full screen colour visualisation.. or play doom in colour, on my h140 :p |
| 08:24:19 | scorche | sharpe: get on vent |
| 08:24:47 | sharpe | scorche: can't. busy. phone. |
| 08:24:52 | scorche | ... |
| 08:24:57 | midkay | suuuure. |
| 08:25:05 | sharpe | yeah. |
| 08:25:09 | earHertz | sharpe's talking to his girlfriend |
| 08:25:13 | sharpe | nope. |
| 08:25:15 | midkay | that's a laugh. |
| 08:25:19 | earHertz | only $4.99 a minute |
| 08:25:22 | sharpe | hahahah |
| 08:25:32 | scorche | ohhhhhhh baby |
| 08:25:36 | midkay | hahaha. |
| 08:26:10 | amiconn | CreativePony: The yes/no issue is not a bug in the code, it's a known issue in the .lang files |
| 08:26:39 | amiconn | They're prepared to take different strings per target, just no one has gone ahead and fixed this up |
| 08:26:50 | scorche | i was gonna say something clever and absolutely funny, but then amiconn said something and i got embarrassed |
| 08:27:15 | sharpe | scorche: about what? |
| 08:27:26 | scorche | <earHertz> only $4.99 a minute |
| 08:27:33 | sharpe | ah. |
| 08:27:34 | sharpe | what? |
| 08:27:42 | * | scorche blushes |
| 08:28:00 | midkay | that as earHertz you tart. |
| 08:28:03 | midkay | was* |
| 08:28:23 | * | earHertz is playing with blocks |
| 08:28:47 | sharpe | earHertz: so far, the malloc works. just need to do the alignment... |
| 08:29:28 | earHertz | huh? |
| 08:29:36 | earHertz | the alignm,ent should be automatic |
| 08:29:58 | sharpe | well, it would appear to not be... |
| 08:30:02 | earHertz | recall the strcut starts with a size_t |
| 08:33:08 | sharpe | when you talked about the alignment, the pointers returned by malloc should be word aligned? |
| 08:33:41 | midkay | sharpe, you're not on the phone, talking about all these pointers and alignment! |
| 08:33:55 | scorche | http://www.absolutedogs.com/shpeifupusw.html |
| 08:33:55 | sharpe | midkay: multitasking. hah. |
| 08:34:05 | sharpe | gee... i wonder what that's about... |
| 08:34:07 | midkay | hah. |
| 08:34:10 | earHertz | sharpe: at least |
| 08:34:12 | scorche | @sharpe |
| 08:34:23 | earHertz | and probably at most |
| 08:36:04 | sharpe | right now, if an odd number of bytes is allocated, the next address returned won't be aligned. |
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| 08:36:29 | earHertz | no, no |
| 08:36:49 | earHertz | always return a block |
| 08:37:01 | Jungti1234 | hello |
| 08:37:05 | sharpe | they are always returned |
| 08:37:26 | earHertz | return a block that's a multiple of word size |
| 08:37:30 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers |
| 08:37:46 | earHertz | If I ask for 5 bytes, give me 8 (assuming word is 4 bytes) |
| 08:37:49 | Jungti1234 | Don't they exist much? |
| 08:38:02 | sharpe | alright then |
| 08:38:12 | earHertz | actually, you're giveing me 12, becauuse the first four bytes are teh bliock size |
| 08:38:34 | earHertz | but you'll give me the address of teh the first byte after the block size, with is word size |
| 08:39:04 | CreativePony | amiconn, so I just need to add them for h100 and h120 targets? |
| 08:40:03 | sharpe | alright, so just go up to the next word-aligned size... |
| 08:42:08 | sharpe | scorche: what'd you want me to get on ventrilo for? |
| 08:42:47 | midkay | so we can chat! |
| 08:42:52 | midkay | the three of us, best buds. |
| 08:43:02 | sharpe | eh, i've a few minutes to spare. |
| 08:43:25 | sharpe | any specific server...? |
| 08:44:27 | midkay | hm. |
| 08:44:28 | midkay | wait. |
| 08:47:45 | * | midgey34 adds blackjack code to the tracker |
| 08:49:22 | midkay | :o:o:o |
| 08:51:36 | * | CreativePony whines, she wants tv out! :p |
| 08:54:03 | earHertz | well, figure out how pal differs from NTSC |
| 08:55:08 | sharpe | 10 Hz. :) |
| 08:55:37 | midkay | LIAR. |
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| 09:02:26 | CreativePony | there's an ntsc out plugin o^ |
| 09:03:50 | scorche | sharpe: why so silent? |
| 09:04:01 | sharpe | scorche: le phone. |
| 09:05:06 | CreativePony | whats the volume number in rockbox? is that like becibal thingys? |
| 09:05:50 | midkay | becibal? haha. |
| 09:06:10 | midkay | db aka decibels!! |
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| 09:06:52 | CreativePony | ya |
| 09:06:59 | CreativePony | typo :p |
| 09:07:07 | midkay | suuuuure! |
| 09:07:20 | * | CreativePony thinks she's pretty good at spelling for a horse |
| 09:08:30 | scorche | >_> |
| 09:08:45 | midkay | a horse? i thought you were a pony. |
| 09:08:49 | midkay | frickin' liars. |
| 09:08:56 | CreativePony | pony's a kind of horse |
| 09:09:01 | midkay | i personally think sharpe sucks at grammar for being a dog. |
| 09:09:11 | sharpe | thank you. |
| 09:09:17 | midkay | if you want a pony you say "daddy i want a pony" not "daddy i want a horse". |
| 09:09:31 | CreativePony | I'm both o^ |
| 09:09:47 | earHertz | damned furriees |
| 09:09:53 | scorche | indeed |
| 09:09:58 | midkay | weirdos. |
| 09:09:59 | CreativePony | i'm not a furry.. |
| 09:10:04 | midkay | and you're not creative you dumb horse. |
| 09:10:14 | * | CreativePony droops her ears out to the sides |
| 09:10:40 | earHertz | awww |
| 09:10:40 | midkay | you're freaking me out, FWIW. |
| 09:10:44 | scorche | om....can i ride you? |
| 09:10:58 | midkay | that all depends on what kind of ride you mean! |
| 09:11:00 | CreativePony | not unless you get to know me well first.. |
| 09:11:10 | CreativePony | and only if there's no innuendo |
| 09:11:14 | midkay | does $10 change anything? |
| 09:11:19 | * | scorche whistles |
| 09:11:22 | CreativePony | i don't do interspecies stuff o^ |
| 09:11:38 | CreativePony | midkay, nup |
| 09:11:53 | scorche | these other guys said you did... |
| 09:12:08 | midkay | :( |
| 09:12:10 | CreativePony | they lied.. bratty stallions o^ |
| 09:12:30 | CreativePony | I dunno why stallions can't keep their minds shut |
| 09:12:36 | CreativePony | but I guess I can't either :p |
| 09:12:55 | midkay | :ooooo |
| 09:13:41 | CreativePony | does compiling always take forever o^ |
| 09:13:43 | earHertz | this is why furries squick me |
| 09:13:50 | CreativePony | i'm not a furry.. |
| 09:14:04 | CreativePony | oh.. *see's the pun* |
| 09:14:07 | CreativePony | no not like that |
| 09:14:16 | earHertz | no pun |
| 09:14:41 | CreativePony | most horseys don't speak a whole lot, we use a different communication method.. the closest word for it is telepathy.. but its not exactly that |
| 09:14:42 | midkay | this conversation is moving away from the G-rated style of #rockbox. |
| 09:14:58 | CreativePony | yeah, can we stay g-rated pleaaaase? |
| 09:14:59 | earHertz | oh crap, the ufos can carry things |
| 09:15:17 | CreativePony | ufo's..? |
| 09:15:18 | scorche | i just wanted a nice, innocent ride |
| 09:15:27 | * | CreativePony stops talking to earHertz now o_o |
| 09:15:36 | earHertz | CreativePony: http://www.souptoys.com/ |
| 09:16:09 | CreativePony | um..? |
| 09:16:25 | earHertz | ioh, write, you don't have windows |
| 09:16:32 | earHertz | it's desktop toys |
| 09:16:36 | CreativePony | i'm kinda glad too.. |
| 09:16:56 | earHertz | midkay: you have windows? |
| 09:17:02 | midkay | yes.. |
| 09:17:04 | midkay | !! |
| 09:17:14 | sharpe | i've known that... |
| 09:17:14 | earHertz | http://www.souptoys.com/ |
| 09:17:15 | midkay | ooh/ |
| 09:17:23 | midkay | come back to vent sharpe. |
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| 09:17:45 | sharpe | i will in like, fifteen minutes. |
| 09:17:51 | midkay | that looks really fun. |
| 09:17:58 | scorche | i wanna ride the pony daddy! |
| 09:19:11 | * | CreativePony grunts |
| 09:19:25 | earHertz | midkay: thry the "evil" set |
| 09:19:26 | scorche | horses dont grunt... |
| 09:19:29 | sharpe | exactly... |
| 09:19:32 | midkay | i will! |
| 09:19:35 | CreativePony | yes we do |
| 09:19:41 | scorche | no |
| 09:19:45 | scorche | horses snort |
| 09:19:45 | CreativePony | yes |
| 09:19:54 | CreativePony | snort, grunt, whinny, nicker.. |
| 09:19:59 | CreativePony | horses do lotsa stuff |
| 09:19:59 | scorche | yes |
| 09:20:02 | scorche | without the grunting |
| 09:20:05 | CreativePony | no |
| 09:20:07 | CreativePony | with the grunting |
| 09:20:11 | CreativePony | also huffing |
| 09:20:40 | scorche | i like to huff and grunt a lot |
| 09:20:45 | sharpe | ... |
| 09:20:59 | scorche | i might while riding you...is that alright? |
| 09:21:08 | CreativePony | you are not riding me |
| 09:21:32 | earHertz | scorche: give it a rest |
| 09:21:42 | * | scorche points at midkay |
| 09:21:45 | scorche | he made me do it |
| 09:22:03 | earHertz | yes, but he's satan's spawn, we all know that |
| 09:22:03 | * | CreativePony hoofkicks scorche |
| 09:22:16 | earHertz | CreativePony: give it a rest |
| 09:22:30 | CreativePony | huh? |
| 09:23:23 | earHertz | now why won't the ufos carry teh teddy bear? |
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| 09:24:02 | CreativePony | rest what? |
| 09:24:20 | earHertz | nevermind |
| 09:24:21 | midkay | earHertz, wow.. pretty awesome. |
| 09:24:38 | midkay | where's the evil one? |
| 09:24:43 | earHertz | the ufos abduct teh little people |
| 09:24:54 | earHertz | um, fourth oplayset on the first page |
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| 09:26:12 | midkay | ah.. |
| 09:26:54 | CreativePony | pony getting very confused & stressed.. losing speech from stress.. gotta go calm down now.. |
| 09:27:01 | CreativePony | later back maybe.. |
| 09:27:04 | | Quit CreativePony (Remote closed the connection) |
| 09:27:16 | scorche | ... |
| 09:27:32 | sharpe | talk backwards can i. |
| 09:27:42 | earHertz | yoda?? |
| 09:28:21 | Equalizer | can someone help me i tried installing rockbox and now my ipod doesnt work says rockbox bootload then freezes after the checksum |
| 09:29:01 | earHertz | install a differnt copy of rockbox |
| 09:29:35 | Equalizer | how its stuck on that screen and now longer is detected |
| 09:29:46 | earHertz | reboot the ipod |
| 09:30:00 | Equalizer | i tried just goes back to the same screen |
| 09:30:08 | earHertz | then plug it in to your computer |
| 09:30:21 | earHertz | hold down menu when you reboot |
| 09:31:20 | Equalizer | did that then apple logo appears for like one second and goes to that bootloader |
| 09:32:16 | earHertz | reboot |
| 09:32:24 | earHertz | reelaese menu and select |
| 09:32:29 | earHertz | press menu hold it down |
| 09:33:23 | Equalizer | same thing |
| 09:34:02 | earHertz | try plugging iot in to the pc |
| 09:34:43 | Equalizer | nothing happens |
| 09:34:52 | earHertz | is it plugged in? |
| 09:35:02 | Equalizer | yes |
| 09:35:26 | earHertz | reboot it noe, keeping it plugged in |
| 09:35:27 | Jungti1234 | How do I see users list which was in existing? |
| 09:35:40 | earHertz | Jungti1234: huh? |
| 09:35:42 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsers |
| 09:35:51 | Jungti1234 | I don't exist there. |
| 09:35:59 | earHertz | re-register |
| 09:36:04 | Jungti1234 | re? how? |
| 09:36:16 | Equalizer | same thing happened |
| 09:36:21 | earHertz | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/TWiki/TWikiRegistration |
| 09:36:29 | Jungti1234 | Do I remove and re-register? |
| 09:36:43 | earHertz | Equalizer: I'm sure there's a solutuion, but I don't know what iot is |
| 09:36:48 | earHertz | post to the forum |
| 09:37:47 | amiconn | Jungti1234: If you can still log in, there's no need to re-register |
| 09:38:11 | midkay | earHertz, has your cursor ever disappeared playing with Souptoys? |
| 09:38:19 | amiconn | Some users are missing in TwikiUsers even though they can still log in and edit topics |
| 09:38:21 | earHertz | nope |
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| 09:38:31 | midkay | gah. |
| 09:38:56 | Equalizer | i think i found a solution pressed the play play/pause button at same as the other two and it loaded the apple firmware |
| 09:38:58 | Jungti1234 | I know but there are no people now was in former days. |
| 09:39:16 | earHertz | Equalizer: huh |
| 09:40:26 | midkay | ah.. 'twas my wireless mouse's batteries. |
| 09:40:31 | midkay | souptoys are fun. |
| 09:40:36 | earHertz | lol |
| 09:40:41 | Equalizer | when i pressed menu+select+play all at same time and held them down it loaded apples firmward instead of rockbox |
| 09:40:47 | earHertz | I want a spring though |
| 09:40:53 | Equalizer | and now the computer detected it |
| 09:40:57 | midkay | i love the music. |
| 09:41:15 | midkay | "souptoys!" bwip-da-da-da-buh-bewww bwip-da-da-da-buh-bweeew.. |
| 09:41:19 | earHertz | Equalizer: ok, your vversion of rockbox was corrupt. get a new version, install tat |
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| 09:42:36 | Equalizer | how do you install it i downloaded a installer can i just copy the files to the ipod |
| 09:43:27 | Equalizer | i want the one from this page http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4417.0 |
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| 09:44:01 | earHertz | Equalizer: yeah, just copy. Unzip a rockbox.zip onto your ipod |
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| 09:46:45 | Equalizer | cool worked sort of looks all plain how do i get it to look like the one on that page in the forum |
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| 09:50:26 | earHertz | Equalizer: menu|browse tehemes |
| 09:52:59 | Equalizer | do you know if its possible to have ipodlinux,rockbox and apples fireware all on there and be able to pick the one you want |
| 09:53:12 | scorche | yes it is |
| 09:53:54 | Equalizer | how would you go about doing that is there instructions somewhere |
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| 10:05:15 | sharpe | midkay: i'll be back. |
| 10:05:23 | midkay | as in... hours? |
| 10:05:30 | sharpe | minutes |
| 10:05:35 | midkay | alrighto! |
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| 10:15:41 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 10:16:12 | sharpe | Hello |
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| 10:25:06 | midkay | sharpe sTARTS NOW |
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| 11:02:11 | JdGordon | GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
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| 11:02:38 | JdGordon | stupid farking apt-get/ubuntu/fubared libsdl package :'( |
| 11:03:16 | JdGordon | in other news.... while we r in feature freeze, do the weekly patches email need to get sent? the bugs 1 is good, but the patches? |
| 11:04:01 | linxustb_ | Equalizer: If you want RetailOS, IPL and Rockbox, the easiest way is to first install IPL according to their instructions (or using their GUI installer), and then you just need to download the correct rockbox.zip for your ipod and unzip it to the root of your ipod. |
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| 11:13:53 | CreativePony | I did it! http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5665 |
| 11:14:10 | CreativePony | I fixed my own problem! yay mee! |
| 11:14:26 | JdGordon | wd |
| 11:14:38 | CreativePony | wd? |
| 11:14:55 | JdGordon | well done |
| 11:15:19 | CreativePony | ooh, thanks |
| 11:15:20 | JdGordon | thats was supposed to be one of the first things to get fixed when langv2 was introduced.. its funny its still there :D |
| 11:16:16 | JdGordon | can u add the line h300: NAVI = yes to your patch as well? |
| 11:16:35 | CreativePony | I guess o^ |
| 11:17:53 | JdGordon | ive bumped its severity so hopefully it gets noticed :D |
| 11:18:39 | * | CreativePony nods |
| 11:19:45 | CreativePony | shouldn't that be SELECT = Yes also? that seems to be what that buttons called in the rockbox manual and things.. |
| 11:21:05 | JdGordon | really? its clearly maked as NAVI on the player, and should be NAVI in the manual as well? |
| 11:21:20 | JdGordon | hang on... rockbox manuall for which target? |
| 11:21:41 | CreativePony | ahh, on the h100's its not marked, its only called NAVI in the iriver firmware and its manuals |
| 11:22:02 | CreativePony | Well I haven't looked at the 300's manual |
| 11:22:14 | * | CreativePony checks |
| 11:22:33 | CreativePony | ooh, you're right |
| 11:23:07 | linxustb_ | So the h100's manual calls a joystick press "navi" ? |
| 11:23:51 | CreativePony | think so |
| 11:24:11 | * | JdGordon thought it was SELECT on the h1xx and NAVI on h300 |
| 11:24:26 | CreativePony | i seem to remember the firmware upgrade feature saying on screen "Press NAVI to upgrade firmware" or something to that effect on a confirmation screen |
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| 11:24:46 | CreativePony | i have a US h140, maybe the european ones are different? |
| 11:24:59 | * | CreativePony reboots her player and checks.. |
| 11:25:25 | JdGordon | ye, its the select in the h1xx manual |
| 11:25:52 | CreativePony | hmm |
| 11:26:41 | CreativePony | oh god.. |
| 11:26:55 | CreativePony | i just activated the firmware upgrade function.. without any firmware's on the drive |
| 11:27:25 | CreativePony | hmm.. didn't seem to do anything.. just rebooted |
| 11:27:41 | JdGordon | firmware upgrade function? |
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| 11:28:03 | CreativePony | in the official us h120 firmware |
| 11:28:11 | CreativePony | i was looking for that mention of NAVI |
| 11:28:19 | CreativePony | i'm SURE they called it that somewhere! |
| 11:28:20 | JdGordon | oh, ok |
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| 11:28:36 | JdGordon | on the remote it says select/NAVI for the same button |
| 11:28:50 | CreativePony | ooh |
| 11:28:51 | * | JdGordon is off |
| 11:29:10 | * | CreativePony add's the new patch as a comment |
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| 11:31:32 | CreativePony | someone want to edit the topic of that patch to mention h300 too? |
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| 11:35:26 | sharpe | hmm. he did press the button. |
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| 11:39:12 | CreativePony | Neigh |
| 11:39:33 | midkay | NEEEIEEIEIEAEAAASFFGJAS:asa AAGH!!! |
| 11:40:14 | * | scorche` taps his fingers on the table like one who really wants to say something, but refrains for the purposes of keeping this channel relatively on topic and not starting a flame war |
| 11:40:16 | scorche` | =D |
| 11:40:36 | midkay | no, no, go on/ |
| 11:41:06 | sharpe | scorche`: don't flame, refrain. hah. |
| 11:42:34 | * | midkay is hah-patrol. |
| 11:42:47 | * | sharpe is the hah-outlaw. |
| 11:46:28 | JdGordon | CreativePony: chaneg the topic for ya.. now we wait :p |
| 11:46:36 | CreativePony | :) |
| 11:52:34 | CreativePony | so.. this C business.. if I manage to make a buffer overflow, my data just starts being writen in to random other stuff still something crashes? |
| 11:53:00 | JdGordon | ye... |
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| 11:57:07 | CreativePony | fun! |
| 11:57:21 | * | CreativePony has never programmed in something that could do that before! :p |
| 11:58:04 | JdGordon | buffer overflows are fun :D |
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| 11:58:45 | * | CreativePony nods |
| 11:59:33 | * | CreativePony tries to make a plugin.. not sure how exactly you get them to show up in the menu.. like.. it seems there's a helloworld sample in there.. but it doesn't show up on her player.. |
| 11:59:58 | linuxstb | CreativePony: You need to add the name of your .c file to apps/plugins/SOURCES before compiling |
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| 12:00:25 | * | JdGordon is off again, cyaz |
| 12:01:36 | LinusN | can someone have a look at this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualRockboxInstall and tell me how he/she sees the phrase "Add / Remove Programs?" in the beginning of that page |
| 12:01:37 | CreativePony | okie |
| 12:01:55 | LinusN | i see it surrounded by strange characters |
| 12:02:48 | scorche` | i see it surrounded by � |
| 12:02:51 | midkay | i see querstion marks. |
| 12:02:51 | linuxstb | Yes, I see it surrounded by diamonds with ? inside. |
| 12:03:05 | scorche` | (question mark inside of a diamong) |
| 12:03:14 | CreativePony | so.. do i just run make, then make zip, and copy to my player to test, or must I run configure again? |
| 12:03:14 | LinusN | i see that in a lot of places in the wiki |
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| 12:03:36 | LinusN | seems michael difebbo is to blame |
| 12:03:40 | CreativePony | same for me too LinusN |
| 12:03:48 | linuxstb | The page is identified as iso-8859-15... |
| 12:04:06 | MrStaticVoid | yeah, switching to iso-8859-1 showed the correct characters. |
| 12:04:25 | LinusN | i wondered what it was supposed to look like, i guess it's some kind of quotes or formatting codes |
| 12:04:41 | linuxstb | Yes, it's the "66" and "99" quotes. |
| 12:04:57 | LinusN | silly |
| 12:04:59 | linuxstb | As MrStaticVoid said, switch your browser to iso-8859-1 |
| 12:07:24 | LinusN | shouldn't be necessary |
| 12:07:51 | MrStaticVoid | in the html: <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-15"> |
| 12:08:09 | MrStaticVoid | is that easily modifiable? |
| 12:08:22 | linuxstb | I wonder if the previous wiki setup was iso-8859-1 |
| 12:08:43 | * | CreativePony praises utf-8 o_o |
| 12:09:06 | linuxstb | According to google's cache, it was. |
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| 12:14:35 | LinusN | ok, fixed |
| 12:19:38 | Slasheri | ah, now i have search option "search by score" working with tagcache :) |
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| 12:19:56 | Slasheri | "Best" title ? autoscore > "70" & playcount > "1" |
| 12:20:00 | Slasheri | and that works too :) |
| 12:21:13 | LinusN | coolness! |
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| 12:24:10 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I organise my directories as ARTISTNAME/YEAR-ALBUM/NN-TRACKNAME.ext - can I recreate that view in tagcache? |
| 12:25:23 | Slasheri | linuxstb: defining the format (i.e., adding year to the album string) is not yet possible using the config file |
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| 12:26:32 | linuxstb | Is it something you're planning? |
| 12:26:43 | qwm | no, i'm not planning anything. |
| 12:26:57 | Slasheri | yes, that would be useful with the scoring too. Sorting could be done automatically |
| 12:27:00 | CreativePony | Yay, I made a useless plugin which recites poetry |
| 12:27:03 | qwm | i'm incapable of planning things. |
| 12:27:03 | CreativePony | This is fun! |
| 12:27:33 | qwm | what's the progress on the last.fm support? |
| 12:27:49 | Slasheri | linuxstb: in fact, that is probably the next thing i will try to do.. because it would be useful debugging if the scoring system works right |
| 12:27:51 | * | scorche` waves a bottle of glue in front of CreativePony's face |
| 12:28:02 | * | CreativePony blinks |
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| 12:31:21 | midkay | CreativePony's a dirty dirty little pony. |
| 12:31:45 | * | scorche` wonders if CreativePony knows the correlation between horses and glue |
| 12:32:51 | * | CreativePony knows that glue isn't made from horses.. |
| 12:33:00 | scorche` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoof_glue |
| 12:33:54 | scorche` | i beg to differ... |
| 12:35:11 | * | CreativePony knows that glue made from hooves has been obsolite for a very long time |
| 12:35:30 | scorche` | "Hoof glue is still used today in cabinetry and other fine woodworking projects where the joints must be extremely fine if not invisible." |
| 12:35:52 | scorche` | WRONG AGAIN :p |
| 12:35:56 | scorche` | errr....caps |
| 12:36:18 | * | CreativePony goes to contact freenode staff to see if scorche can be removes for harrassment |
| 12:36:23 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, i will add support inserting numeric tags to the current view, for example: "Search by score" title "%-3.autoscore. %result" ? autoscore > "" |
| 12:37:17 | Slasheri | that would then list all songs which have user selected score and in format "67. title" (for score 67 for example) |
| 12:37:40 | Slasheri | ups, in fact " 67. title" |
| 12:37:57 | Slasheri | but i am not sure what is the best format to describe the string |
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| 13:18:41 | dan_a | Yay! I think I'm getting somewhere with sound on the 3g iPod... but it's not working yet |
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| 13:26:10 | linuxstb | dan_a: Are you "webguest" from the other day? |
| 13:26:42 | dan_a | No... was there someone else looking at it too? |
| 13:27:25 | dan_a | I'm the one who said on the forum that I was going to give it a go, even though I can't really program |
| 13:27:32 | linuxstb | Well, someone came and asked what needed to be done with the 3g port, and he seemed keen on working on it. Haven't heard from him since though. |
| 13:27:45 | dan_a | I've spotted a bug in crt0.S |
| 13:28:26 | linuxstb | I think the current problem is that the FIQ handler is never being called - so something is not being initialised right. What's the crt0.S bug? |
| 13:28:37 | linuxstb | Do you know what the FIQ is? |
| 13:29:02 | dan_a | It's a kind of interrupt handler, isn't it? |
| 13:30:21 | dan_a | The crt0.S bug is at line 231 - for the PP5002 that address should be 0xc000251c |
| 13:30:44 | linuxstb | Yes. The FIQ is the "fast interrupt" - it's used to keep the small (32-byte I think) I2S FIFO full of data. So it's called about 5000 times a second during playback. |
| 13:31:46 | linuxstb | Line 231 is empty in my copy of crt0.S.... |
| 13:32:14 | dan_a | Sorry, that should be line 291 |
| 13:32:31 | linuxstb | IISCONFIG ? |
| 13:32:38 | dan_a | That's right |
| 13:32:52 | dan_a | It's different on the PP5002 |
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| 13:33:36 | dan_a | I've tried a straight swap of the addresses, but it still crashes when I try to play anything |
| 13:33:53 | linuxstb | That's not important - that is just pre-loading the banked FIQ registers for the assembler version of the FIQ handler. The PP5002 is using the C version of the FIQ handler. |
| 13:34:24 | linuxstb | So yes, it's wrong, but it's never used. |
| 13:34:37 | dan_a | Oh well... I'm trying :) |
| 13:37:12 | mordov | is it posible to get the tagchace to skip folders? I doon need my audiobooks in tag navi :) |
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| 13:38:05 | linuxstb | dan_a: Try this patch: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/fiqcount.diff - it increments a variable every time the FIQ handler is called, and displays that variable in the audio thread debug screen. IIRC, it's always zero - that's the bug you need to fix. |
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| 13:38:26 | linuxstb | (or at least, it's the first bug to fix) |
| 13:38:58 | linuxstb | mordov: Not at the moment, but It's been discussed a few times - you're not the only person wanting it. |
| 13:39:44 | dan_a | linuxstb: The problem is that as soon as I try to play audio, the whole thing crashes with undefined instruction or prefetch errors |
| 13:39:55 | mordov | ok :) waiting in patienc then :) |
| 13:39:55 | dan_a | but I'll get that patch applied anyway |
| 13:40:12 | linuxstb | Ah, that's different to how people described it before. Does the error message give an address? |
| 13:40:56 | dan_a | It does, and I've noted some of them down |
| 13:41:13 | dan_a | It tends to be different errors and addresses every time |
| 13:41:36 | dan_a | even if I'm playing the same file |
| 13:41:57 | linuxstb | That sounds promising - at least something is happening. |
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| 13:43:13 | linuxstb | Have you changed anything else in the code apart from that value in crt0.S? |
| 13:46:55 | shriphani | hello LinusN |
| 13:47:00 | shriphani | i mean linuxstb |
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| 13:48:32 | webguest96 | hello! does anyone have cool themes which look good on a H300??? |
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| 13:49:17 | Hansmaulwurf | webguest96: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300 ? |
| 13:50:50 | PaulJam | wow, he seems to be really impatient. |
| 13:52:01 | Genre9mp3 | or maybe just had problems with the web client |
| 13:52:03 | Hansmaulwurf | hm |
| 13:57:02 | dan_a | linuxstb: the only other thing I've changed was a line in apps/logfdisp.c to make it compile for the 3G |
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| 14:49:14 | Slasheri | linuxstb: ah, now it should be almost possible =) now the following work for example: |
| 14:49:20 | Slasheri | "Search by score" title = "(%3d) %s" autoscore title ? autoscore > "" |
| 14:49:28 | Slasheri | "Artists" artist : album : title = "%02d. %s" tracknum title |
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| 14:51:15 | Slasheri | linuxstb: probably you could do something like: "Artists" artist : album = "%04d-%s" year album : title = "%02d-%s" tracknum title |
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| 14:55:33 | PaulJam | is the syntax for the tagnavi.config somewhere documented? |
| 14:56:32 | Slasheri | not yet |
| 14:56:42 | Slasheri | because it still evolves a lot :) |
| 14:56:48 | PaulJam | ok |
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| 15:00:19 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I'm still trying to understand your syntax, but it's looking very powerful now... |
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| 15:34:18 | modafroman | can someone please compile this for me http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5664 |
| 15:36:20 | modafroman | or is there some sort of online compiler or something? |
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| 15:37:33 | CreativePony | why don't you do it yourself..? |
| 15:37:35 | PaulJam | there is a nice guide how to compile yourself in the wiki |
| 15:38:13 | modafroman | alright alright |
| 15:38:29 | modafroman | its just that its 11:30pm and i should be getting to bed |
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| 15:46:35 | petur | modafroman: if it's that urgent to get a blackjack game, maybe you should look for treatment for you gambling addiction :p |
| 15:47:18 | modafroman | lol |
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| 15:54:25 | * | S0ap is going to attempt a rockbox compile today, but is scared how long it will take on a K6-III 450 |
| 15:54:40 | petur | with cygwin? |
| 15:54:56 | S0ap | yea, that's the direction I'm leaning. |
| 15:55:20 | petur | cygwin is already bloody slow on my amd 3500+ |
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| 15:56:01 | petur | don't try to build your own crosscompiler, that will take all night |
| 15:56:31 | S0ap | I'm used to the slow speeds, when I convert my DVDs to XviD for backup it takes all week. |
| 15:56:40 | petur | rofl |
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| 15:57:28 | S0ap | Maybe I'll ask later about a faster way, but I haven't even finished going through all the instructions yet, so I won't ask now. |
| 15:58:54 | petur | there are pre-build crosscompiler packages you can install from cygwin by pointing it to the rockbox site (see wiki) |
| 15:59:48 | petur | I think the cygwin slowness comes from its disk io so maybe compile speeds won't be that worse compared to what I have here |
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| 16:00:48 | S0ap | That's a good tip, I will run it off a local drive then. |
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| 16:11:48 | modafroman | guys when i type ../tools/configure in cgwin i get a fatal error |
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| 16:12:19 | modafroman | sh.exe fatal error could not allocate heap |
| 16:14:04 | modafroman | nevermind |
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| 16:19:34 | modafroman | look, can someone please just compile it for me |
| 16:20:53 | PaulJam | you should go to bed instead of playing blackjack |
| 16:22:10 | modafroman | :( |
| 16:22:40 | modafroman | i am trying to compile it, but when i go make, it gives me a bunch of errors |
| 16:22:51 | linuxstb | What's the first error? |
| 16:23:07 | linuxstb | (and did the configure command work without errors?) |
| 16:23:22 | modafroman | yea it did configure, it was a dodgy extraction |
| 16:24:15 | modafroman | the first error is rdf2binary.c:24:23 sys/types.h no such file/directory |
| 16:24:32 | linuxstb | It seems you're missing some parts of cygwin... |
| 16:24:43 | modafroman | :| |
| 16:25:28 | linuxstb | Did you select all the packages mentioned here? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 16:26:03 | modafroman | yea |
| 16:26:35 | modafroman | what section would rdf2binary be located? |
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| 16:27:33 | JdGordon | rdf2binary is part of the rockbox/tools isnt it? |
| 16:27:37 | linuxstb | rdf2binary.c is one of the Rockbox files - the issue is the missing "sys/types.h" |
| 16:27:54 | modafroman | hrm |
| 16:28:37 | apo` | Man, speaking album names is one annoying work :/ I still have to do 150 directories |
| 16:28:46 | JdGordon | modafroman: are u trying to do a compile with extra patches? or just the regular compile? |
| 16:29:43 | modafroman | just regular compile |
| 16:30:11 | modafroman | its the cvs extracted with blackjack in apps/plugins |
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| 16:30:39 | JdGordon | blackjack?? |
| 16:30:48 | modafroman | this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5664 |
| 16:31:43 | JdGordon | hmm... what h300 ye? |
| 16:32:06 | modafroman | huh? |
| 16:34:19 | petur | linuxstb: were there any reasons for backdrop.c to be placed in apps/recorder iso apps/gui ? |
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| 16:34:55 | JdGordon | modafroman: u have the h300 ye? |
| 16:35:17 | modafroman | yea |
| 16:35:18 | linuxstb | petur: In my mind, apps/recorder is for bitmapped LCDs, with apps/charcell being for the charcell LCDs. apps/gui applies to both. |
| 16:35:51 | linuxstb | (recorder being the name of the first Rockbox device with a bitmapped LCD - the Archos recorder) |
| 16:35:55 | petur | well, the recorder folder isn't included for platforms without recording |
| 16:36:15 | linuxstb | it's used for ipods, and they don't have recording enabled. |
| 16:36:15 | JdGordon | hmm.. errors trying to compile it.. |
| 16:36:39 | modafroman | :| |
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| 16:37:40 | petur | linuxstb: nevermind, forgot to include backdrop.h :/ |
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| 16:41:08 | modafroman | hrm |
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| 16:43:36 | modafroman | oh well |
| 16:43:40 | modafroman | im going to bed |
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| 16:47:16 | modafroman | is there anyway to just compile plugins? |
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| 16:47:42 | miL | hi people! |
| 16:48:05 | miL | we are going to fill www.goear.com of good music !!!!!!! |
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| 16:50:30 | petur | miL: sounds very illegal.... |
| 16:50:50 | apo` | Indeed |
| 16:52:16 | petur | still, I have some live recordings to share and was looking for something like youtube but for music. This may be it, but looking at what's online now, I fear they'll be shut down pretty fast |
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| 16:53:52 | miL | petur |
| 16:53:53 | miL | no |
| 16:53:59 | miL | is not illegal site |
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| 16:54:55 | petur | maybe not the intention, but they have files online that the riaa won't like |
| 16:56:05 | roland_webguest | there are more sites providing files the riaa don't like... |
| 16:56:15 | miL | yes |
| 16:56:18 | miL | youtube for example |
| 16:56:19 | miL | xD |
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| 16:57:40 | roland_webguest | or an russian onlineshop preventing russia to join the WTO |
| 16:57:56 | miL | petur upload any sound |
| 16:58:00 | miL | and paste url |
| 16:58:02 | miL | please |
| 16:58:10 | miL | we want to listen gold music |
| 16:58:11 | petur | why? |
| 16:58:18 | petur | no time now |
| 16:58:22 | miL | ok |
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| 17:01:52 | linuxstb | miL: Why is that site not illegal? |
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| 17:17:11 | miL | because |
| 17:17:36 | miL | in the terms and conditions, you can read that they hate copyrighted music |
| 17:17:43 | miL | and when you do the register: |
| 17:18:25 | miL | Remember you cant upload copyrighted music in any case |
| 17:18:28 | S0ap | what site, may I ask? |
| 17:18:33 | miL | www.goear.com |
| 17:18:58 | S0ap | does it matter what terms they /claim/? What matters is what is there, no? |
| 17:19:07 | S0ap | de facto / de jure |
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| 17:19:44 | linuxstb_ | (sorry. bad ADSL day...) |
| 17:21:04 | miL | S0ap I suppose |
| 17:21:21 | linuxstb_ | The front page is full of copyrighted tracks... |
| 17:22:17 | miL | and youtube? linuxstb ? |
| 17:22:31 | linuxstb_ | I'm not talking about youtube. |
| 17:23:01 | linuxstb_ | Saying other similar sites exist does not make that one legal. |
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| 18:28:53 | buzzard | hey guys |
| 18:28:58 | buzzard | i have a problem |
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| 18:29:18 | buzzard | can someone help me |
| 18:29:44 | earHertz | what? |
| 18:30:02 | buzzard | how come i can't read my ebook in rockbox |
| 18:30:14 | buzzard | i put my files into the notes folder |
| 18:30:15 | earHertz | what kind of ebook? |
| 18:30:32 | buzzard | well first it was pdf |
| 18:30:35 | PaulJam | convert them to plain text files |
| 18:30:36 | earHertz | rockbiox can only read plain text |
| 18:30:39 | buzzard | then i went turned it into text |
| 18:30:50 | buzzard | and i went to this website |
| 18:31:01 | buzzard | that converts text to ipod notes |
| 18:31:09 | buzzard | and then i took those files |
| 18:31:18 | buzzard | and put them into the notes folder of my ipod |
| 18:31:26 | buzzard | when i acces my rockbox |
| 18:31:30 | buzzard | i see the files |
| 18:31:33 | buzzard | i click on it |
| 18:31:38 | buzzard | and nohing happens |
| 18:31:42 | earHertz | buzzard: oh, ok |
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| 18:31:52 | earHertz | you don't wnat to use teh text to ipod notes |
| 18:32:00 | buzzard | ahh |
| 18:32:02 | buzzard | i see |
| 18:32:04 | earHertz | just convert it to one long text file |
| 18:32:09 | buzzard | ok |
| 18:32:13 | buzzard | thanks alot man |
| 18:32:17 | earHertz | np |
| 18:32:18 | buzzard | i apreciat it |
| 18:32:27 | S0ap | make sure the first character of the file isn't a space, CR, or tab |
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| 18:33:36 | PaulJam | S0ap: if he uses a very recent cvs version this is not necessary. there was a bugfix committed some hours ago. |
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| 18:38:45 | buzzard | i have another question |
| 18:39:00 | buzzard | is it possible to watch magazines on my ipos in rockbox |
| 18:40:29 | S0ap | PaulJam - will that be in the next daily, or do I need to compile that myself? |
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| 18:40:41 | S0ap | buzzard - plain text only |
| 18:40:50 | buzzard | ohh i see |
| 18:41:02 | BigMac | hey does rockbox have a photo viewer? |
| 18:41:09 | S0ap | jpegs |
| 18:41:11 | BigMac | and if so what img formats? |
| 18:41:13 | BigMac | k |
| 18:41:53 | XavierGr | BigMac are you serious |
| 18:41:54 | XavierGr | ? |
| 18:42:03 | BigMac | what? |
| 18:42:08 | XavierGr | After last night you dare to come here again? |
| 18:42:18 | BigMac | what happened last night? |
| 18:42:22 | BigMac | i left |
| 18:42:31 | BigMac | i was at fireworks last night |
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| 18:42:40 | PaulJam | S0ap: get a bleeding edge build from here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 18:42:42 | XavierGr | Yes I mean the night previous the last |
| 18:42:46 | BigMac | i left at 5:00... |
| 18:42:56 | BigMac | no what happened |
| 18:43:01 | BigMac | ? |
| 18:43:06 | XavierGr | You sweared at the people who helped you |
| 18:43:07 | Genre9mp3 | BigMac: You are KoRn, aren't you? |
| 18:43:21 | BigMac | ... i already explained to soap |
| 18:43:26 | BigMac | younger brother |
| 18:43:38 | S0ap | you told me older... |
| 18:43:39 | BigMac | were on a wireless connection..hence same ip |
| 18:43:45 | BigMac | no i didnt |
| 18:43:48 | BigMac | check the log |
| 18:44:01 | BigMac | i had to help him remove linux |
| 18:44:05 | XavierGr | LOL |
| 18:44:16 | XavierGr | you are a lousy liar KoRn |
| 18:44:20 | BigMac | remember we talked in #ipodlinux |
| 18:44:33 | BigMac | really what would hint that im him? |
| 18:44:39 | BigMac | ive been hospitable |
| 18:44:47 | BigMac | i've been helping people |
| 18:45:03 | BigMac | and my brother is an annoying ***** |
| 18:45:07 | XavierGr | I don't care what you do. Stop swearing at people |
| 18:45:21 | BigMac | it wasn't me.. |
| 18:45:30 | BigMac | but ok |
| 18:45:49 | BigMac | i don't like swearing |
| 18:46:14 | XavierGr | well if KoRn is your brother give him a spank! |
| 18:46:17 | BigMac | does anyone here use videoraipodconverter |
| 18:46:26 | BigMac | i had to help him yesterday |
| 18:46:29 | earHertz | I;ve used it |
| 18:46:30 | S0ap | BigMac - that doesn't do anything for rockbox |
| 18:46:39 | BigMac | he loses his patience |
| 18:46:46 | BigMac | ok |
| 18:47:06 | BigMac | does the faq cover account registering |
| 18:47:11 | BigMac | so i can send pms? |
| 18:47:25 | Mikachu | /msg nickserv help |
| 18:47:26 | XavierGr | type /nickserv help |
| 18:47:30 | XavierGr | ehm |
| 18:47:33 | XavierGr | yeah I am wrong |
| 18:47:42 | earHertz | er, don't pm me |
| 18:47:57 | BigMac | why? |
| 18:48:10 | S0ap | uh, because he ASKED? |
| 18:48:11 | earHertz | because I used a tabbed chat client |
| 18:48:25 | BigMac | ok |
| 18:48:31 | earHertz | and Iif I go to a pm tab, UI miss what's going on in teh main chat |
| 18:48:54 | BigMac | well then do I have permission to ask one question about videora quickly? |
| 18:49:06 | earHertz | sure, go ahead |
| 18:49:35 | BigMac | ok does videora accept .mov files? because it won't let me put the .mov on my 5g |
| 18:49:45 | S0ap | you need to convert it first |
| 18:49:51 | earHertz | I have no idea, I've used it proabbaly twice |
| 18:49:54 | S0ap | and IIRC videora will convert movs |
| 18:50:02 | BigMac | IIRC? |
| 18:50:10 | S0ap | If I Recall Correctly |
| 18:50:25 | BigMac | ok thank you im going to que it up. |
| 18:50:37 | S0ap | you need to remember that .mov is a _container_ format, like .avi or .ogm |
| 18:50:49 | S0ap | so there is no telling from the extension what codec the .mov is. |
| 18:51:12 | BigMac | so are you saying it might not work correctly? |
| 18:51:21 | S0ap | a "container" is just that...a single fine which holds 1 or more audio / video streams. |
| 18:51:47 | S0ap | BigMac - I'm saying you need to convert it to an ipod-compatible format. |
| 18:51:58 | BigMac | who here codes for rockbox? |
| 18:52:03 | BigMac | oh ok. |
| 18:53:15 | BigMac | well if someone does, do you think it would be hard to code an ebook/pdf reader? |
| 18:53:17 | XavierGr | Bagder: Can you change the channel topic? AFAIK the wiki is up now. |
| 18:53:44 | BigMac | it is? |
| 18:54:10 | XavierGr | yes |
| 18:54:12 | Genre9mp3 | yes it is |
| 18:54:32 | linuxstb_ | BigMac: yes. |
| 18:54:58 | linuxstb_ | (regarding your question about a pdf reader) |
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| 18:55:04 | BigMac | it would? |
| 18:55:23 | BigMac | how much harder is it for an ipod to read .txt then .pdf |
| 18:55:35 | Genre9mp3 | much harder |
| 18:55:43 | linuxstb | .txt is the simpliest format you can think of. PDF one of the most complex... |
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| 18:56:00 | earHertz | there's a pdf reader for the zaurus (which is an arm, like th eipod) but it probably depends on teh qt libs |
| 18:56:00 | * | S0ap would rather see HTML anyhoo |
| 18:56:52 | BigMac | i wouldn't mind either it is just the black and white background strains your eyes while reading after a while |
| 18:57:03 | linuxstb | Change the colours then... |
| 18:57:23 | BigMac | how |
| 18:57:26 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 18:57:33 | BigMac | i couldn't find that option? |
| 18:57:40 | linuxstb | The manual? |
| 18:57:50 | XavierGr | for gods sake!!! |
| 18:58:16 | XavierGr | even if you are his brother (i doubt it) you really have the same genes |
| 18:58:49 | BigMac | i just read the manual... |
| 18:58:55 | XavierGr | no you didn't |
| 18:59:00 | BigMac | I didn't catch it. |
| 18:59:01 | XavierGr | and we both know that |
| 18:59:08 | BigMac | yes I did |
| 18:59:12 | XavierGr | ok ok |
| 18:59:15 | XavierGr | as you say |
| 18:59:17 | BigMac | the one that is under the daily build |
| 18:59:23 | BigMac | the 800 something page one |
| 18:59:49 | XavierGr | Ok I will shut up from now on. |
| 18:59:54 | XavierGr | I am feedding the troll! |
| 18:59:59 | XavierGr | please all do so.... |
| 19:00 |
| 19:00:43 | * | linuxstb yawns |
| 19:01:07 | BigMac | does anyone here like weebls-stuff.com? |
| 19:02:05 | BigMac | have you guys ever thought of making a !manual command? |
| 19:02:15 | XavierGr | wow Bigmac, you came 3rd in this months log activity |
| 19:02:21 | BigMac | that would hyper link you to the manual |
| 19:02:25 | BigMac | :-) |
| 19:02:30 | BigMac | im that good |
| 19:02:48 | BigMac | like !ipod video manual |
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| 19:03:22 | S0ap | people who don't read the manual aren't likely to read the topic to see the command to read the manual. |
| 19:03:38 | XavierGr | :) |
| 19:04:00 | BigMac | no but you could say look at the topic |
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| 19:04:05 | BigMac | then bam |
| 19:04:08 | BigMac | command |
| 19:06:59 | BigMac | i just searched the whole document for .txt and it doesn't tell you how to change thed colors |
| 19:07:25 | S0ap | the topic would have to be a mile long to contain all the commands, so most likely they would need to be told to you upon arival by a bot, and people would forget, so we're back to square one (where we are at now). Then there is the fact that telling someone to view the topic (which contains commands for automatic linking to the manuals) is as likely to elicit responses of "What about the topic" as it is "Oh, you want me to get the manual |
| 19:07:46 | PaulJam | why don't you search for "colours" if you want to change the colours? |
| 19:07:56 | borges_ | you can change them globally. general settings -> display -> lcd settings |
| 19:08:09 | BigMac | oh nvm |
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| 19:09:06 | BigMac | soap you could do MANUAL COMMAND:<mp3 player modelname>manual |
| 19:09:24 | linuxstb | This is an IRC channel, not an interactive manual... |
| 19:09:25 | BigMac | !<mp3 player model name>manual |
| 19:09:26 | S0ap | what is your model name? |
| 19:09:38 | BigMac | !ipodvideomanual |
| 19:09:40 | S0ap | ipod5g? ipodvideo? |
| 19:10:08 | BigMac | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginChip8?raw=on |
| 19:10:11 | BigMac | can anyone else load that |
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| 19:17:22 | [Hells] | hi all |
| 19:17:32 | [Hells] | ive a non-rockbox question |
| 19:18:05 | [Hells] | do you know a good tool to defragment (is it called like that?) a harddisk? |
| 19:18:32 | earHertz | use whatefer you use to defragment your other disks |
| 19:18:34 | | Quit [San] () |
| 19:18:36 | ender` | tar everything to another disk, reformat, untar? :) |
| 19:18:52 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
| 19:18:54 | [Hells] | ive not enough space |
| 19:19:05 | earHertz | then do what ender said |
| 19:19:20 | BigMac | hells |
| 19:19:20 | S0ap | you don't have enough space on the device you wish to defrag? Or do you not have enough space to back it up? |
| 19:19:27 | BigMac | do you run windows? |
| 19:19:28 | [Hells] | i even cant defragment with the windows application due to he sais i need 15% free space |
| 19:19:33 | [Hells] | yes, im running win |
| 19:19:46 | | Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") |
| 19:19:49 | S0ap | then backup 15% of your share and defrag, then put the 15% back. |
| 19:19:57 | BigMac | oh nvm i was going to tell you to use the system defragmenter |
| 19:20:07 | [Hells] | this could be one solution |
| 19:20:20 | [Hells] | but arent there any other tools who could help me? |
| 19:20:38 | [Hells] | maybe some who could do the job even better or faster? |
| 19:20:51 | [Hells] | thought u guys would know :) |
| 19:20:56 | borges_ | you could try o&o defrag, it's pretty good... not sure if it has the same space limitations though |
| 19:21:03 | S0ap | I am sure free defrag programs exist, but I use a commercial one, and am not going to tell you to spend 75 bucks. |
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| 19:21:10 | borges_ | i just did :( |
| 19:21:49 | [Hells] | do you know any other |
| 19:21:54 | S0ap | google does |
| 19:22:01 | [Hells] | than ill try them all and choose the best :) |
| 19:22:30 | S0ap | or move 15%, defrag, move it back, and be done in 1 unattended hout. |
| 19:22:32 | S0ap | *hour |
| 19:22:46 | [Hells] | yes, but i thought you could give me same results as google with the non-available shit-filter |
| 19:22:51 | [Hells] | if u understand |
| 19:24:37 | [Hells] | ok thx ill google it and look for o&o defrag, thanx all :) |
| 19:25:13 | [Hells] | be the way, PRETTY fine job with rockbox ;) love it (if it just wouldnt hang up sometimes :() cya @ll |
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| 19:31:44 | BigMac | hangup? |
| 19:31:55 | BigMac | i'm guessing he was esl. |
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| 20:02:35 | Xtc1k | russian? |
| 20:03:58 | Xtc1k | where are you |
| 20:03:59 | Xtc1k | =) |
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| 20:40:20 | Harry | hello |
| 20:40:25 | Harry | how do i paly doom wads |
| 20:41:18 | lou | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom#Getting_Started |
| 20:41:19 | PaulJam_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=PluginDoom |
| 20:41:23 | Hansmaulwurf | lol |
| 20:41:40 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=5343d4aa@labb.contactor.se) |
| 20:43:26 | linuxstb_ | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 20:43:59 | Hansmaulwurf | ? |
| 20:44:35 | linuxstb_ | The answer to all questions. |
| 20:44:45 | Hansmaulwurf | lol |
| 20:45:06 | Hansmaulwurf | how did you know Harry asked a question, you just joined |
| 20:45:16 | PaulJam_ | the channel is logged |
| 20:45:20 | Hansmaulwurf | btw, the mini1g manual is mission in your link :P |
| 20:45:31 | Hansmaulwurf | missing |
| 20:45:47 | Hansmaulwurf | well, its the same... |
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| 20:49:23 | Mode | "#rockbox +o LinusN " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 20:49:51 | Topic | "Business as usual - still no 3.0" by LinusN (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
| 20:49:56 | | Nick jd_ is now known as jd_away (n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos) |
| 20:50:14 | Mode | "#rockbox -o LinusN " by LinusN (n=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
| 20:51:26 | XavierGr | heh nice topic! |
| 20:52:08 | XavierGr | The first topic I remember was: Rockbox! The coolest firmware around. :D |
| 20:52:09 | Hansmaulwurf | hehe yeah |
| 20:52:32 | scorche | LinusN: i believe we need to make another news post on the main page as well |
| 20:52:38 | Hansmaulwurf | i feel its a bit sarcastic ;) |
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| 20:52:49 | scorche | a Bagder/Zagor job? |
| 20:52:50 | DoubleThink2 | Heya |
| 20:52:53 | LinusN | scorche: about the wiki? |
| 20:53:07 | scorche | yeah |
| 20:53:16 | scorche | "The twiki parts are still disabled and will be brought back once we believe we have them "secured" properly." |
| 20:54:29 | Mikachu | there's a local root exploit out for linux 2.6.17.4 and earlier, fixed in .5 |
| 20:54:53 | Mikachu | speaking of security |
| 20:55:06 | LinusN | scorche: like that? |
| 20:55:38 | scorche | yeah...just a little something is/was needed |
| 20:55:45 | DoubleThink2 | don't know if this is the right place.... but can someone help me fix a really messed up iPod.....? |
| 20:57:17 | Harry | yo |
| 20:57:24 | Harry | can anyone get me top views of pool tables |
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| 20:57:47 | PaulJam_ | i guess google can |
| 20:57:52 | Harry | i tryed |
| 20:58:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I type "pool table top" in google, and then click images, I get some... |
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| 20:59:02 | Harry | damm joo |
| 20:59:03 | Harry | ty |
| 20:59:35 | DoubleThink2 | and if the "I guess google can" was to me then... I have been over all the wikis but the FW is still not loading.... |
| 20:59:59 | DoubleThink2 | rewritting the MBR and FW didn't help much |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:12 | PaulJam | it was meant for Harry. |
| 21:00:22 | DoubleThink2 | =( |
| 21:00:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | DoubleThink2: What does the Apple restore tool do? |
| 21:00:56 | PaulJam | if nothing helps, you can still use the apple restore program |
| 21:01:03 | DoubleThink2 | it says can't mount Ipod |
| 21:01:34 | DoubleThink2 | though it is in disk mode and I can see it in My Computer |
| 21:01:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | When I had that issue |
| 21:02:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I used windows format to reformat my ipod entirely, then Apple Restore saw it. |
| 21:02:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can't promise this will work for you |
| 21:02:12 | DoubleThink2 | no it didn't =( |
| 21:02:19 | DoubleThink2 | that's how it got messed up in the first place |
| 21:02:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | What's it formatted to? |
| 21:02:33 | DoubleThink2 | fat32 |
| 21:02:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Try formatting NTFS, then restarting the computer |
| 21:02:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | THEN trying Apple Restore. |
| 21:03:04 | DoubleThink2 | I don't think you can format it to NTFS... |
| 21:03:14 | DoubleThink2 | that... and I am on linux right now |
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| 21:03:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I had to format my nano to NTFS to get it to the point where the Restore tool seemed to just say "Look, forget my complaints. I'll just do it." |
| 21:03:52 | DoubleThink2 | lol |
| 21:04:32 | DoubleThink2 | hmm... but then.... I'll have to boot back into windows and stuff.. =(.... hope it works |
| 21:04:32 | DoubleThink2 | thanks |
| 21:04:41 | DoubleThink2 | bbs maybe |
| 21:04:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good luck! |
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| 21:15:48 | BigMac | ok how do i open my jpegs? |
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| 21:16:08 | BigMac | i saved them to the root of my ipod 5g in myPICS |
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| 21:21:51 | Hansmaulwurf | damn |
| 21:22:02 | Hansmaulwurf | why is everyone leaving when i try to help |
| 21:22:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac has lost the right to help here anyway, in my opinion. And I *really* don't say that much. |
| 21:22:58 | Hansmaulwurf | huh? why? |
| 21:23:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because fairly recently he decided to curse me and a few others out very rudely. |
| 21:23:38 | Hansmaulwurf | ah ok |
| 21:24:08 | Mikachu | Paul_The_Nerd: according to him that was his brother |
| 21:24:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Was it his brother all those other times too? |
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| 21:24:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | He's had a history of being rude and contentious in here. |
| 21:24:41 | linuxstb_ | Odd they are never online at the same time... |
| 21:24:54 | XavierGr | Mikachu: I think none of us believed that lie |
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| 21:25:20 | XavierGr | and when I said that he was 3rd on July's log stats he was quite happy |
| 21:25:32 | DoubleThink2 | ok..... can't format ipod mini to ntfs |
| 21:25:35 | DoubleThink2 | =( |
| 21:26:02 | |apo| | rockbox doesn't even support NTFS, afaik |
| 21:26:09 | |apo| | So that's be quite pointless :P |
| 21:26:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | |apo|: Nah, it's pointful. |
| 21:26:15 | DoubleThink2 | nuh this was about something else |
| 21:26:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | My Nano wouldn't be recognized by the Apple Restore tool at one point until I reformatted it to NTFS. As FAT32, the Restore Tool just refused to see it for some reason. |
| 21:26:42 | |apo| | Oh well, whatever.. *goes back to voicing his folders* |
| 21:26:45 | DoubleThink2 | my ipod is completly dead so I can't even use the apple restore tool.... Paul suggested I try to.... what he said.... |
| 21:27:21 | Mikachu | can you access it in linux? |
| 21:27:29 | DoubleThink2 | yeah |
| 21:27:45 | Mikachu | i think if you just restore the normal partition layout it should work to restore |
| 21:28:14 | Mikachu | but their program isn't very good, it should always recognize the ipod... |
| 21:28:16 | DoubleThink2 | nuh... didn't work |
| 21:28:57 | DoubleThink2 | I need to repartition it now anyway since formatting it totally ruined the partitioning |
| 21:29:34 | Mikachu | my nano always works if i have a 10block partition of type 0 with the firmware on and a second fat partition in the rest of the space |
| 21:29:41 | Mikachu | i've recreated that manually 3 or so times |
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| 21:30:18 | DoubleThink2 | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
| 21:30:18 | DoubleThink2 | /dev/sda1 1 5 40131 0 Empty |
| 21:30:18 | DoubleThink2 | /dev/sda2 6 497 3951990 b W95 FAT32 |
| 21:30:23 | DoubleThink2 | is what I have |
| 21:31:50 | DoubleThink2 | resetting the iPod I get the folder with an exclamation mark =( |
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| 21:33:36 | DoubleThink2 | no suggestions? =( |
| 21:34:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | dd if=bootpartition.bin of=/dev/sda1 ? |
| 21:34:51 | DoubleThink2 | yeah I downloaded mbr-mini2g-4gb.bin off the rockbox mac install wiki |
| 21:35:22 | DoubleThink2 | and extracted the FW from ipod updater |
| 21:35:42 | DoubleThink2 | put the mbr on sda, fw on sda1 |
| 21:36:00 | DoubleThink2 | and.... yeah... that's about it |
| 21:36:03 | Mikachu | did you mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda2 ? |
| 21:36:22 | DoubleThink2 | ...don't think I did |
| 21:36:25 | DoubleThink2 | what does that do? |
| 21:36:27 | |apo| | By the way, is voice support for tagcache planned? |
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| 21:36:32 | Mikachu | creates a fat filesystem |
| 21:36:47 | DoubleThink2 | I did now |
| 21:36:54 | Mikachu | which is a good thing to have on a fat partition |
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| 21:37:38 | DoubleThink2 | still get the folder icon though |
| 21:37:50 | | Part LinusN |
| 21:38:00 | Mikachu | maybe it needs the ipod control stuff |
| 21:38:07 | Mikachu | but it's worth trying the restore program now |
| 21:38:23 | DoubleThink2 | but... then I have to boot into windows again..... =( |
| 21:39:23 | DoubleThink2 | but yeah brb |
| 21:39:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | It shouldn't need the ipod control stuff to boot. |
| 21:39:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've erased it several times, and had it rebuild on reboot. |
| 21:39:42 | DoubleThink2 | yeah... same... |
| 21:39:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | By the way, ddint just the apple_os.bin from the updater may not work. |
| 21:39:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not in the same format as a properly constructed bootpartition.bin |
| 21:40:08 | DoubleThink2 | I used make_fw |
| 21:40:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | But how did you use it? |
| 21:40:22 | DoubleThink2 | ./make_fw_64 -o apple_os.bin -e 0 FIRMWARE-7.2.6.1 |
| 21:40:36 | DoubleThink2 | should I have added -g mini ? |
| 21:40:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't even know how to use make_fw honestly. |
| 21:41:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | At least not for the purposes you are. |
| 21:41:12 | DoubleThink2 | I will try it with -g mini then |
| 21:41:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the error you're getting usually means that it can't find firmware in the firmware partition. |
| 21:41:28 | DoubleThink2 | That's what I was told to do on #ipodlinux.... then people got frustrated with me >.> |
| 21:41:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which usually comes from dding an invalid bin to it |
| 21:41:53 | Mikachu | try putting the rockbox bootloader on, then you'll know if the error is before or after the firmware loading |
| 21:42:57 | DoubleThink2 | where do I get that? |
| 21:43:17 | DoubleThink2 | I think I tried that... but it was combined with the firmware I extracted |
| 21:43:28 | DoubleThink2 | so... that would probably be diff |
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| 21:46:29 | DoubleThink2 | what does this mean? "the original firmware has the sw at 0, and a flash updater at 1" |
| 21:46:33 | DoubleThink2 | sw? flash updater? |
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| 21:48:22 | linuxstb_ | DoubleThink2: Are you still trying to install IPL, or do you just want to restore your ipod to its original condition? (that's what confused me when we were talking in #ipodlinux) |
| 21:48:36 | DoubleThink2 | original condition |
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| 21:48:48 | DoubleThink2 | oh hey =) |
| 21:49:46 | linuxstb_ | Then: 1) dd if=mbr.bin of=/dev/sda 2) Unplug then reattach your ipod; 3) dd if=FIRMWARE-7.2.6.1 of=/dev/sda1 ; 4) mkfs -F 32 /dev/sda2 ; 5) Unplug your ipod |
| 21:50:13 | linuxstb_ | That assumes that FIRMWARE-7.2.6.1 is the unmodified file you extracted from the updater. |
| 21:52:19 | DoubleThink2 | all good up to 4) |
| 21:52:20 | DoubleThink2 | mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005) |
| 21:52:20 | DoubleThink2 | mkfs.ext2: invalid blocks count - /dev/sda2 |
| 21:52:46 | linuxstb_ | Sorry, that should be something like mkfs.vfat -F 32 ... |
| 21:53:13 | DoubleThink2 | mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda2 ? |
| 21:53:26 | Mikachu | mkdosfs and mkfs.vfat is the same program |
| 21:54:11 | DoubleThink2 | thanks |
| 21:54:19 | DoubleThink2 | think it is loading |
| 21:54:37 | DoubleThink2 | oh my god =) |
| 21:54:42 | DoubleThink2 | Thanks hell of a lot |
| 21:55:01 | Mikachu | what was different now versus before? no makefw? |
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| 21:55:40 | DoubleThink2 | I didn't do step 2..... did step 3 not with the unmodified file... and didn't mkfs |
| 21:55:52 | DoubleThink2 | so.... one of those things.... |
| 21:56:13 | Mikachu | ah |
| 21:56:37 | DoubleThink2 | thanks linuxstb, Mikachu and Paul =) |
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| 21:57:29 | linuxstb_ | Now you can install Rockbox on it :) |
| 21:57:45 | DoubleThink2 | rockbox is better than IPL right? |
| 21:58:14 | PaulJam | depends on what you want to do with it. |
| 21:59:05 | DoubleThink2 | ..... I liked being able to say that I have linux on my ipod, can play doom and have a gameboy emulator......thought I never used any of those... just the concept of it.... |
| 21:59:14 | linuxstb_ | They are different things. Rockbox's main focus is music playback. |
| 21:59:20 | DoubleThink2 | gonna go see what rockbox has |
| 21:59:44 | DoubleThink2 | it's possible to have rockbox and IPL right? |
| 21:59:52 | PaulJam | yes |
| 21:59:58 | linuxstb_ | But Rockbox also has lots of plugins - see the list here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:09 | linuxstb_ | (all those plugins come as standard when you install Rockbox) |
| 22:00:11 | Mikachu | as an aside, rockbox does have doom and a gameboy emulator |
| 22:00:22 | linuxstb_ | Not for the mini though... (yet) |
| 22:00:32 | Mikachu | ah right |
| 22:00:49 | Mikachu | doom in monochrome can't be fun, does ipl also have a graylib? |
| 22:00:49 | linuxstb_ | Although I'm not sure about Rockboy, maybe it works on the mini... |
| 22:00:51 | DoubleThink2 | " Full-screen clock with 6 mode" O_o |
| 22:00:53 | XavierGr | DoubleThink2:Once you start using Rockbox and get the hang of it, you will never consider to buy another DAP that won't be rockbox compatible |
| 22:01:00 | DoubleThink2 | wow.... all the fun with a clock... but in full screen... |
| 22:01:14 | Mikachu | the clock plugin is the craziest plugin ever |
| 22:01:15 | linuxstb_ | Mikachu: No, no greyscale lib in IPL |
| 22:01:23 | |apo| | XavierGr: Hehe |
| 22:01:32 | linuxstb_ | (and not in Rockbox for the ipods yet either) |
| 22:01:52 | |apo| | After using rockbox for two days I've never started the original apple firmware again :) |
| 22:02:02 | XavierGr | I am afraid that if my iriver units brake, I will have to buy an iPod :p |
| 22:02:17 | XavierGr | apo: that's the spirit |
| 22:02:22 | Mikachu | i accidentally put a plastic card in the same pocket as my nano, now it has scratches all over |
| 22:02:37 | DoubleThink2 | so... would I install IPL or rockbox first? (which way is easier?) |
| 22:02:45 | DoubleThink2 | .... the card or the nano? |
| 22:02:49 | Mikachu | i know it scratches easily, but i didn't expect a completely smooth surface to do it |
| 22:02:53 | |apo| | My iPod has lotsa scratches, too... and dust under the cover of the screen |
| 22:03:02 | |apo| | But now I have voice ^_^ |
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| 22:03:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mikachu: Mine picked up scratches because apparently the fabric of my pockets was too abrasive. Well, scuffs. |
| 22:04:02 | apo` | Paul_The_Nerd: Same here |
| 22:04:05 | PaulJam | DoubleThink2: afaik if you install ipodlinux with the loader2 you can just drop the rockbox files on the fat32 partition and it will recognize rockbox |
| 22:04:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | DoubleThink2: Honestly, it's easiest to install IPL first, if you use Loader 2. |
| 22:04:24 | DoubleThink2 | ok thanks |
| 22:04:31 | Mikachu | it's like the screen is made of pvc plastic |
| 22:05:32 | DoubleThink2 | is Podzilla 2 usable yet? |
| 22:05:45 | DoubleThink2 | as in.... better than normal podzilla? |
| 22:05:55 | apo` | By the way, there's no way of getting files on my iPod without the original firmware, right? |
| 22:05:56 | PaulJam | that's what i lihe about the h300, the device has scratches all over it, but the screen hasn't a single scratch. |
| 22:06:21 | apo` | Or can I safely delete the iPod_control/ folder? |
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| 22:08:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | DoubleThink2: it's better to ask about Podzilla in the iPodLinux channel, as it has nothing to do with this project. |
| 22:08:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | apo`: You can safely delete iPod Control. It's used for storing songs and stuff by iTunes, but isn't necessary for the Apple firmware to function (at least not on my iPod), and anyway, the Disk Mode we use is in flash. |
| 22:08:47 | DoubleThink2 | ok =(.... but then I will be told to go to the site and check |
| 22:08:52 | apo` | Good, thanks :D |
| 22:09:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | DoubleThink2: Well, we can't be responsible for them providing unfriendly, but a lot of people here don't even use iPL, and support / info questions should be asked in the proper place. :) |
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| 22:09:58 | apo` | I had iPL before... didn't like it ^^; |
| 22:10:10 | DoubleThink2 | fair enough =( |
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| 22:11:35 | DoubleThink2 | do I need to do any of the rockbox boot loader stuff if I install Loader2? |
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| 22:14:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 22:14:39 | DoubleThink2 | thanks |
| 22:15:02 | DoubleThink2 | so... just copy the 2g mini files from the site into the main folder and that's it? |
| 22:15:59 | apo` | Yup |
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| 22:16:08 | DoubleThink2 | sounds simple enough |
| 22:16:16 | apo` | :) |
| 22:16:19 | DoubleThink2 | Unlike IPL ...grr... |
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| 22:22:46 | DoubleThink2 | rockbox looks swazzt =) |
| 22:22:49 | DoubleThink2 | *swazzy |
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| 22:25:39 | apo` | Did you just invent that word? |
| 22:25:51 | apo` | I don't know it, leo doesn't know it, and even urbandictionary doesn't :P |
| 22:26:08 | XavierGr | swazzy? |
| 22:26:17 | XavierGr | do you mean chessy? |
| 22:26:18 | DoubleThink2 | oh right..... sometimes I forget the words I use don't exist.... |
| 22:26:22 | apo` | Heh. |
| 22:26:29 | Mikachu | maybe a mix of sweet and snazzy |
| 22:26:36 | DoubleThink2 | exactly |
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| 22:27:19 | DoubleThink2 | I don't remember how it started but... We use it in our group... |
| 22:27:25 | apo` | 36 folders left :D |
| 22:27:35 | apo` | Time for a break |
| 22:27:36 | DoubleThink2 | 73 folders for me :D |
| 22:27:40 | apo` | Uh |
| 22:27:46 | apo` | You're also voicing your albums? O_o |
| 22:27:47 | DoubleThink2 | what are you folders doing? O_o |
| 22:27:50 | DoubleThink2 | lol |
| 22:27:52 | DoubleThink2 | wtf |
| 22:28:03 | apo` | Creating li'l voice clips for every folder on my iPod |
| 22:28:06 | DoubleThink2 | we both manage to O_o at the same time |
| 22:28:14 | apo` | ^_^ |
| 22:28:16 | DoubleThink2 | and nuh I am not doing that |
| 22:28:45 | DoubleThink2 | I didn't think we were doing the same thing.... but I have my MP3s copying onto my iPod |
| 22:28:53 | DoubleThink2 | and I have 73 folders left |
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| 22:29:32 | DoubleThink2 | What is the voice thing anyway? |
| 22:30:28 | Mikachu | reading the names of menu entries out loud in your headphones when you select them |
| 22:30:31 | Mikachu | so you don't have to look |
| 22:31:05 | DoubleThink2 | it has a speech engine? |
| 22:31:16 | XavierGr | reminds me that I have to send a kind mail to loquendo to ask if we can host some voice files in the wiki |
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| 22:31:28 | Mikachu | no, the voice clips are just normal audio files |
| 22:31:44 | DoubleThink2 | oh =( |
| 22:32:04 | DoubleThink2 | I want a speech engine =( |
| 22:32:08 | DoubleThink2 | >.> |
| 22:32:09 | DoubleThink2 | <.< |
| 22:32:41 | kerb | Is there any way to prevent tagcache from recursing some directories? |
| 22:32:47 | kerb | Or only caching one directory |
| 22:32:56 | XavierGr | I think no |
| 22:33:28 | kerb | I have one directory with properly tagged music, and one that has utter garbage tags and I can't really be bothered to fix the other, but it is really annoying when browsing by artist etc |
| 22:33:46 | XavierGr | time to fix it then :p |
| 22:34:13 | XavierGr | I am in that situation too. Step by step I fix one folder every day |
| 22:34:22 | DoubleThink2 | with rockbox... I can just copy the mp3s on the iPod without the iTunes stuff? |
| 22:34:27 | XavierGr | yes |
| 22:34:27 | Mikachu | yes |
| 22:34:29 | linuxstb_ | kerb: You're not the first person to say that - disabling tagcache in certain directories is a common request, and I'm sure it will happen. |
| 22:34:36 | kerb | I'd rather that directory not be counted at all since it is full of crappy music that people at parties are usually glad that I have |
| 22:34:39 | kerb | But I don't want it :) |
| 22:34:47 | XavierGr | hehe |
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| 22:37:23 | Harry | hey |
| 22:37:30 | Harry | where can i get the rockbox emu for cpu |
| 22:37:34 | Harry | to test out wps |
| 22:37:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | kerb: For a temporary solution: Disable auto-update, copy the files off, create the tagcache, copy the files back on. |
| 22:38:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: There are no emulators. The UI simulators can be compiled from the source though. |
| 22:38:14 | linuxstb_ | Harry: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
| 22:38:26 | Harry | paul |
| 22:38:34 | Harry | can u complie a ui emu fo r me |
| 22:38:40 | apo` | [22:32:04] <DoubleThink2> I want a speech engine =( < There's a tool that can record the stuff MS Sam says and put it onto your iPod |
| 22:38:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bear in mind, the ones at rasher.dk are compiled from official sources, so won't let you use features like Album Art. |
| 22:38:49 | Harry | nvm |
| 22:38:51 | Harry | ty linux |
| 22:38:53 | apo` | Lemme just search for it. |
| 22:39:08 | Harry | omg |
| 22:39:19 | apo` | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceHowto <−− |
| 22:39:34 | apo` | http://rockbox.aplcycling.org/voiceBox.zip |
| 22:40:14 | apo` | Pretty useful, but only if you have mainly English bands and are content with MS's crappy speech engine :P |
| 22:40:19 | DoubleThink2 | I am on linux though |
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| 22:41:26 | DoubleThink2 | btw.... can an iPod which has the sad ipod icon come up when it tries to load be fixed by repartitioning and puttin on a new MBR and FW? |
| 22:42:00 | DoubleThink2 | (my friend's iPod has that and she plans to sending it to apple and be ripped off..... wondering if I could fix it for her instead) |
| 22:42:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | It depends on *why* the sad ipod icon is there. |
| 22:42:25 | DoubleThink2 | yeah.... that.. she doesn't know.... |
| 22:42:36 | DoubleThink2 | wouldn't work if the hd is damaged right? |
| 22:42:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah |
| 22:42:41 | Mikachu | a sad face isn't the best debugging information |
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| 22:42:51 | Mikachu | try running the diagnostics |
| 22:43:01 | Mikachu | is it select+left? |
| 22:43:05 | obo | yes |
| 22:43:11 | DoubleThink2 | Yeah I told her to... she said she didn't remember what is said but it seemed fine |
| 22:43:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | "seemed" |
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| 22:43:34 | DoubleThink2 | I will see her on Monday so I guess I can check properly |
| 22:43:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's where I'd start. |
| 22:43:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Can it get into hardware/emergency disk mode? |
| 22:44:03 | DoubleThink2 | yeah |
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| 22:44:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then there's at least a decent chance you can fix it with that, I'd say. |
| 22:44:36 | DoubleThink2 | I told her to do that and use anapod reinitializer... and it worked... then she tried putting songs on it and it died again |
| 22:44:47 | DoubleThink2 | so.... that seems like a messed up hd |
| 22:44:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 22:45:05 | DoubleThink2 | or she is bad at phrasing what actually happened..... so yeah... Monday it is then.... |
| 22:47:01 | DoubleThink2 | which sounds most natural... Microsoft SAPI5, IBM ViaVoice, or AT&T? |
| 22:48:01 | apo` | Try? :P |
| 22:48:17 | DoubleThink2 | touche |
| 22:48:24 | DoubleThink2 | and.... where do the voice files go? |
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| 22:48:45 | apo` | .rockbox/lang |
| 22:48:52 | DoubleThink2 | nvrm... I'll check the wiki..... ah ok |
| 22:49:00 | apo` | :P |
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| 22:49:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Any of the voices older than like, was it March or April '06, probably won't work. |
| 22:50:16 | DoubleThink2 | oh.... these are september 05 I think... O_o |
| 22:50:47 | apo` | ^^ |
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| 22:55:32 | amiconn | Paul_The_Nerd: Regarding the forum notification email which I received twice and others didn't receive at all - the mail mentions an option to select whether to receive such notifications, but I can't find this option in our forum settings... |
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| 22:57:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I can't find anything relating to it either... |
| 22:57:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | amiconn: I searched through the admin settings and everything. What was the notification regarding again? |
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| 22:57:42 | amiconn | Right now I can't look up my received mails |
| 22:58:01 | amiconn | Different machine inacessible from here |
| 22:58:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, okay |
| 22:58:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | It may be something to go to Jeff about. |
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| 23:06:04 | DoubleThink2 | oh btw.... is there a simple way to do the partitioning of the ipod stuff through linux? |
| 23:06:33 | DoubleThink2 | *through windows |
| 23:06:38 | DoubleThink2 | my bad |
| 23:08:45 | linuxstb_ | In Windows, your only option is the IPL GUI installer. |
| 23:09:35 | DoubleThink2 | but... if the ipod was in the same state as mine was before..... then it is only fixable through mac or linux? |
| 23:11:23 | linuxstb_ | I don't know. Maybe you can fix it in Windows, but I only know how to do it from Linux (the method I explained to you). |
| 23:11:58 | amiconn | Shouldn't the ipod updater fix any partition problems? |
| 23:12:13 | DoubleThink2 | the ipod updater didn't recognise the iPod at all |
| 23:12:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | The iPod Updater's unreliable. |
| 23:12:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb_: Wouldn't the method you explained work with iPodPatcher instead of DD? |
| 23:12:49 | DoubleThink2 | but you can't partition with ipodpatcher though |
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| 23:13:07 | linuxstb_ | You would still need dd for the MBR. |
| 23:13:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 23:13:11 | amiconn | You should also be able to partition it in windows. The only thing you can't do via straightforward gui tools is setting th epartition type of the first partition to zero |
| 23:13:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I found a DD for windows. |
| 23:13:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | I never quite managed to use it right, but that could've just been me not using it right. |
| 23:13:45 | DoubleThink2 | I tried to partition it using partitionmagic... didn't recognise it =( |
| 23:14:04 | DoubleThink2 | oh well.... good thing I installed linux a few days before my iPod died =D |
| 23:14:10 | amiconn | Windows disk management should do |
| 23:14:15 | linuxstb_ | Someone should probably add MBR reading/writing to ipodpatcher. |
| 23:14:20 | S0ap | partitionmagic appears to write funky (working) nonstandard MBRs |
| 23:14:46 | S0ap | I've had problems with PM and *nix before |
| 23:15:08 | DoubleThink2 | PM? nix? O_o |
| 23:15:18 | DoubleThink2 | oh right..... partitionmagic? |
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| 23:15:22 | linuxstb_ | The "ipodservice.exe" or whatever it's called also seems to cause problems. |
| 23:15:26 | RedNifre | Hi there |
| 23:15:32 | DoubleThink2 | heya |
| 23:15:42 | linuxstb_ | (for people with itunes installed) |
| 23:16:37 | S0ap | *nix = Linux / Unix / BSD |
| 23:16:46 | S0ap | and all other clones |
| 23:16:56 | DoubleThink2 | ah ok |
| 23:17:17 | RedNifre | I just got a tiny question which seems to be answered by the FAQ, but I doubt it. :) You wrote that Rockbox is planned to work on EVERY iPod. While I like the idea of having a powerful iPod Shuffle with that blind-Voice-Interface, I just wondered if you just forgot to exclude the shuffle from the list. So, my question is: might rockbox work on a shuffle, ever? |
| 23:17:58 | DoubleThink2 | I just got PM to convert my old windows partition where I had all my important stuff backed up to FAT so I could access it from windows...... having the great luck that I have it killed the partition so I lost a lot of hard work >_< |
| 23:18:15 | linuxstb_ | RedNifre: Shuffle support is very unlikely. |
| 23:18:16 | DoubleThink2 | hmm.... I like his idea.... |
| 23:18:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | RedNifre: The Shuffle uses a different core entirely, so it's unlikely. Where do we have planned support for all iPods? |
| 23:19:39 | RedNifre | I think I just read it in the iPod-FAQ. Maybe I got it wrong (english is not my first language) |
| 23:20:10 | RedNifre | The intention is to eventually support all iPods past and present, but currently Rockbox doesn't work at all on any other iPods. |
| 23:20:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | No... it does say all iPods. |
| 23:20:14 | * | Paul_The_Nerd goes to fix it. |
| 23:20:21 | S0ap | DoubleThink2 - to FAT16? 32? and from what? |
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| 23:20:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or... someone is already ahead of me |
| 23:20:29 | DoubleThink2 | NTFS |
| 23:20:32 | DoubleThink2 | 32 |
| 23:20:48 | S0ap | hmm, I've done that one before. Shitty |
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| 23:21:48 | RedNifre | It might be extremely cool to have a complex device that doesn't employ a screen. I don't know of ANY devices, that offer complex functionality, while only having an audio interface |
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| 23:22:10 | Lokutos | hi |
| 23:22:15 | DoubleThink2 | Heya |
| 23:22:43 | DoubleThink2 | Doesn't seem like there is much stuff you can do without a screen. |
| 23:23:24 | RedNifre | I think you can do a lot without a screen. |
| 23:23:35 | DoubleThink2 | ooh... old text based games |
| 23:23:43 | DoubleThink2 | that would be great actually |
| 23:23:57 | S0ap | can't do much w/o a screen unless you have a serial port to telnet in through! :) |
| 23:24:11 | RedNifre | Like "Choose Playliste" now you press forward "classic" - forward - "techno" - centerbutton - now the techno-playlist starts. |
| 23:24:12 | DoubleThink2 | heh |
| 23:24:42 | RedNifre | I don't own any iPod, but I assume the iPod Shuffle doesn't allow playlist selection. |
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| 23:25:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | You have A playlist, I understand. |
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| 23:25:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which you can play either sequentially or shuffled. |
| 23:25:28 | RedNifre | If it is impossible to integrate voice synthesis it might be enought to just have "playlist 1", "playlist 2" or just "1", "2" etc. |
| 23:25:57 | DoubleThink2 | aren't the IPL people trying to port festival speeh engine on it? |
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| 23:26:32 | RedNifre | .oO( Listening to .txt-files ;-) |
| 23:26:43 | matthew | my .rockbox folder is gone wth |
| 23:27:15 | matthew | can sumbody help =p |
| 23:27:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, if it's actually been deleted, why not just copy another one over? |
| 23:27:38 | Lokutos | ls -la ;) |
| 23:27:56 | matthew | hm |
| 23:27:58 | matthew | nvm |
| 23:28:04 | matthew | its not deleted |
| 23:28:06 | matthew | its in there :p |
| 23:28:25 | matthew | i just hit show all files and the folder shows up again but i never changed it to show supported files so idk |
| 23:28:32 | RedNifre | Hm, unfortunately I have some work to do. Bye! |
| 23:28:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | It defaults to "supported" |
| 23:28:39 | DoubleThink2 | 'night |
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| 23:29:00 | matthew | but it needs to be set to all to see the .rockbox folder right? |
| 23:29:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 23:29:31 | matthew | ok so mine isnt fubared' |
| 23:29:47 | matthew | i loaded a font and it froze and had to reset :p |
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| 23:29:53 | matthew | and then this happened so yah i was scared |
| 23:31:12 | Lokutos | are there any devs in here? |
| 23:32:22 | Lokutos | is there any work going on to put the cop on ipod to use? |
| 23:32:42 | matthew | why does doom say missing base wad |
| 23:32:55 | DoubleThink2 | because you don't have the *.wad file there? |
| 23:32:57 | linuxstb_ | Lokutos: Not yet, no. |
| 23:33:03 | DoubleThink2 | and what's the cop? O_o |
| 23:33:32 | Lokutos | if not i'd like to help getting that done. however, i don't know where to start.. i took a quick look at the linux port and they seem to use it as a dma engine to feed the fifo |
| 23:33:36 | linuxstb_ | The ipod's second CPU (co-processor) |
| 23:34:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | matthew: The PluginDoom page in the wiki tells what files you need to get doom working, and where to put 'em. |
| 23:34:12 | matthew | yar |
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| 23:35:03 | linuxstb_ | At the moment, Rockbox is in feature freeze to release 3.0 (which isn't an ipod release). After that, the focus will still be on getting the basics working - i.e. optimising the existing code so it runs efficiently on a single CPU. |
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| 23:35:12 | Yakuzza | hi |
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| 23:35:40 | Lokutos | hmm.. i thought 3.0 were an ipod rls |
| 23:35:45 | Galois | feature freeze or not, I think preliminary investigations into the second cpu are worth doing |
| 23:36:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Galois: Preliminary investigations mean people doing work other than toward the release... |
| 23:36:05 | linuxstb_ | No, we don't think the ipod port is ready for a release yet. |
| 23:36:07 | Yakuzza | do anyone know those cheap mp3 video players ? |
| 23:36:31 | Galois | paul_the_nerd: this is the standard open source conundrum. I say if the person wouldn't have worked on rockbox otherwise, then let them do it. |
| 23:36:34 | DoubleThink2 | mp3 video? O_o |
| 23:36:41 | Lokutos | also geting the second cpu to work doesn't affect single-core optimisations |
| 23:36:43 | sharkforce | paul can i have a link :p |
| 23:37:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | Galois: Yeah, and I'm fine with that. But the first step should be to encourage them to work toward the release, at least, rather than making no attempt in that direction. :-P |
| 23:37:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharkforce: I told you the specific name of the page in the wiki... type it into the Go To box. |
| 23:37:27 | linuxstb_ | Lokutos: I'm just saying it's not an area of interest (for me at least). |
| 23:37:39 | Yakuzza | http://cgi.ebay.de/NEU-MP3-MP4-Player-2GB-Radio-Schw-mit-Ipod-Nano-Socke_W0QQitemZ280007774035QQihZ018QQcategoryZ8267QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:37:48 | linuxstb_ | But I don't want to discourage you from working on it. |
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| 23:38:17 | Yakuzza | are there common chipsets in those cheap players ? |
| 23:38:29 | sharkforce | i searched that and it diddnt find anything |
| 23:38:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yakuzza: It's possible. I don't think people have investigated. |
| 23:38:43 | sharkforce | The PluginDoom |
| 23:38:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharkforce: If you just type PluginDoom in the search OR goto box, you'll get the right thing |
| 23:39:07 | sharkforce | yah i got it |
| 23:39:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, what did you do wrong the first time? |
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| 23:42:58 | linuxstb_ | Lokutos: What are you thinking of using the COP for? |
| 23:44:16 | Lokutos | decoding |
| 23:45:28 | linuxstb_ | The problem with that is the increased power consumption. Currently Rockbox just puts the COP to sleep and doesn't use it for anything. |
| 23:46:11 | Lokutos | well it would put it self to sleep when done (until woken up to decode the next chunk) |
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| 23:46:28 | Galois | if it prevents the cpu from having to boost speed, then it might result in net power savings |
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| 23:47:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | The question is if both at 35 is less drain than one at 70. |
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| 23:47:39 | Lokutos | Paul_The_Nerd: i think this is true. power consumtion is non-linear with frequency |
| 23:48:28 | amiconn | Yes and no |
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| 23:48:54 | Lokutos | also as i said both cpus can put semselfs to sleep when there is no work |
| 23:49:01 | amiconn | CPU power consumption increases linear with CPU clock as long as the core voltage is constant, _but_ |
| 23:49:25 | amiconn | it is possible to run the core at a lower voltage when the clock is low |
| 23:49:50 | amiconn | At least the PP5022 supports variable core voltage, but we don't know how to control that (yet) |
| 23:49:55 | amiconn | It's not automatic |
| 23:51:10 | Lokutos | hmm.. i have no experience in that field, but i was under the impression that power consumtion rises exponentially with core clock at the same core voltage. |
| 23:51:38 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: So you're saying that with our current knowledge, 2*35Mhz will consume the same power as 1*70MHz? |
| 23:52:14 | amiconn | I'm not sure. Maybe 2*35MHz will still save a tiny bit |
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| 23:52:48 | Galois | isn't the lower limit 30MHz? |
| 23:52:53 | amiconn | A sleeping core will still consume a tiny bit of power. The question is how much |
| 23:53:22 | linuxstb_ | Galois: The lower limit is something silly like 15KHz. |
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| 23:53:38 | amiconn | Galois: Nope. The PP chips allow clocks from 32kHz up to 80/90/100MHz |
| 23:54:29 | amiconn | The PLL generating those clocks has some limitations; we can set the clock in 3MHz steps based on what we know so far |
| 23:55:12 | amiconn | I guess there's a way to switch to another xtal, offering clocks in the kHz range, for sleep mode |
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