| 00:00:02 | Bagder | I think its a habit |
| 00:00:59 | linuxstb | freqmod: Just a quick look, and it seems you've broken scramble.c for big-endian machines... |
| 00:01:33 | freqmod | ok, where, is it the struct? |
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| 00:03:02 | linuxstb_ | Yes. |
| 00:04:42 | linuxstb_ | I also think it would be better to specify the rsrc filename on the command-line, rather than automatically picking it up - I never liked that in ipod_fw. |
| 00:05:00 | Bagder | oh |
| 00:05:11 | Bagder | it claims to be an e250 in recovery mode |
| 00:05:16 | Bagder | and only 17MB |
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| 00:09:01 | freqmod | linuxstb: Ok, this should fix edian http://pastebin.ca/96414 |
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| 00:25:21 | RaeNye | bagder: would you like to commit my two compact X5 patches added lately to the tracker? |
| 00:25:48 | Landus | Did someone call me? |
| 00:25:56 | Bagder | yes, but I can't do that right now, I'm a bit busy |
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| 00:28:50 | RaeNye | brb |
| 00:29:21 | scorche | Landus: check the logs |
| 00:30:03 | Landus | scorche: ? |
| 00:30:07 | Landus | scorche: There's a log? |
| 00:30:19 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt |
| 00:30:26 | scorche | errr...looks like it just rolled over |
| 00:30:30 | Bagder | aaah |
| 00:30:32 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/ |
| 00:30:59 | * | Bagder surfs the recovery mode waves |
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| 00:31:14 | Bagder | they're slippery |
| 00:31:49 | markun | Bagder: are you trying to brick your e250? |
| 00:31:59 | Bagder | yeah :-) |
| 00:32:06 | Landus | Ugh. I found it. |
| 00:32:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: So, is recovery mode useful then? |
| 00:32:20 | Bagder | mucho |
| 00:32:28 | Bagder | my unit is dead except for that right now |
| 00:32:31 | Landus | S0ap: I updated RealVNC. There was an exploit for the version I was running before I updated it. |
| 00:32:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, they're hard to brick like iPods and X5s are? |
| 00:33:01 | Bagder | not quite sure yet |
| 00:33:10 | Bagder | I didn't patch the BL file |
| 00:33:14 | S0ap | Landus - scary |
| 00:33:28 | Landus | At first, yeah. |
| 00:33:36 | Bagder | and the amusing part is, I messed up so my test was made with a completely bad image |
| 00:33:40 | S0ap | Landus - I /really/ wouldn't rule out the idea you've been rootkited. |
| 00:33:45 | Landus | I checked. |
| 00:33:47 | Landus | Nothing. |
| 00:33:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: So, at least it's safe from completely bad MI4s? |
| 00:33:59 | Landus | Besides the ones that are part of Windows. |
| 00:34:03 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:34:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good to hear that much at least. |
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| 00:34:47 | scottder | better yet if your going to use VNC...install SSH and do VNC over a tunnel |
| 00:34:52 | S0ap | Landus - read about rootkits, you can not check for them from within the compromised system. |
| 00:35:09 | BHSPitMonkey | ssh tunneled VNC is always much slower for me... |
| 00:35:16 | Bagder | unit alive again |
| 00:35:20 | S0ap | the whole idea of a rootkit is that it replaces system hooks, and lies to you. |
| 00:35:20 | Bagder | ... next try |
| 00:36:17 | scottder | BHSPitMonkey: yeah....but I trust it more than leaving a VNC port open to the internet |
| 00:36:48 | BHSPitMonkey | well, I'm not doing anything incriminating over VNC ;) |
| 00:36:52 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
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| 00:37:47 | Landus | S0ap: Yeah. You can. |
| 00:37:57 | scottder | I take it as opposed to getting owned.... |
| 00:38:00 | S0ap | Rootkit Revealer won't show you all the latest ones. |
| 00:38:12 | scottder | convience and security rarely are bedfellows :) |
| 00:38:22 | Landus | S0ap: I never said I use Rootkit Revealer. |
| 00:39:20 | scottder | nothing will show you all the latest ones....that's why they keep making new ones :) |
| 00:39:24 | S0ap | if you have a method of detecting rootkits w/o looking in from another OS, you could make a fortune. |
| 00:39:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:40:01 | S0ap | but sorry for the OT. |
| 00:41:27 | Bagder | yay |
| 00:41:30 | Bagder | it ruuuuns |
| 00:42:04 | * | Paul_The_Nerd cheers |
| 00:42:28 | Bagder | I now have a modified string displaying when I insert the usb ;-) |
| 00:42:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | That is a leet hax sir. Leet indeed. |
| 00:43:06 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:43:35 | BHSPitMonkey | wha? messing around with ipodwizard? |
| 00:43:36 | scorche | amazing how much excitement can come from such a little change =) |
| 00:43:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | BHSPitMonkey: Messing around with Sandisk Sansa |
| 00:43:53 | BHSPitMonkey | ah |
| 00:44:03 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm in and out of the conversation |
| 00:44:08 | BHSPitMonkey | (mostly out) |
| 00:44:17 | Bagder | it works without patching the BL file |
| 00:44:26 | Bagder | with a "dummy" DSA signature |
| 00:44:35 | Bagder | really silly |
| 00:45:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Silly or not, at least it works right? |
| 00:45:34 | Bagder | yes |
| 00:45:45 | Bagder | with the original BL file |
| 00:47:52 | * | RaeNye suggests Bagder make the MI4 display his name all over the player and upload the new version to a 0-day w4r3z site :) |
| 00:48:01 | Bagder | woooo |
| 00:48:02 | Bagder | fame! |
| 00:48:05 | Bagder | profit! |
| 00:48:09 | Bagder | :-P |
| 00:48:15 | RaeNye | no profit. RB is .org |
| 00:48:19 | Bagder | darn |
| 00:48:25 | scottder | cept make it b@dg3rr....more cool for kiddiez |
| 00:48:25 | scottder | :) |
| 00:48:27 | RaeNye | but fame |
| 00:49:28 | * | RaeNye wonders when he gets commit access so he wouldn't have to nag devs all the time |
| 00:50:01 | * | Paul_The_Nerd waits for people to show up from the forums, reading the phrase 'upgraded my e260', asking where to download the Sansa e200 build of RB... |
| 00:50:24 | Bagder | I can offer my image ;-) |
| 00:50:36 | RaeNye | point them to the version I suggested above :) |
| 00:50:36 | Bagder | with a single modified swedish phrase |
| 00:51:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: Oh, by the way, I think there may be a patch for FM screen WPSes in the tracker, if you're interested in that direction. I'm not sure though. |
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| 00:54:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: Apparently I can't find it... I seem to remember someone doing some work in that direction at some point though. =/ |
| 00:54:24 | RaeNye | paul_the_nerd: interesting, although it looks like a quick hack. I'll meddle with it once I have the player. It's 3024 |
| 00:54:40 | Bagder | I think JdGordon once worked on that |
| 00:55:09 | RaeNye | Yeah, that's his patch |
| 00:56:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: I just thought it might be a starting point. I certainly don't object to treating the FM Playback screen the same as the normal playback screen in terms of hierarchy, etc. |
| 00:57:16 | RaeNye | and what about recording? |
| 00:58:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Especially since the FM Radio menu is already the same button as the context menu (on H100s at least) |
| 00:58:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | As for Recording, I'm not so sure. |
| 00:59:06 | * | BHSPitMonkey wonders if recording will ever be a possibility on the 5G |
| 00:59:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | To the skinnability etc, that is. |
| 00:59:26 | RaeNye | I have this concept of persistent screens, that is screen in which you're staying for an extended period of time |
| 00:59:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | As for hierarchy again it makes sense to treat it similarly to WPSes, I think. |
| 00:59:42 | RaeNye | (and not because the phone just rang or you're a slow reader) |
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| 01:00:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that the Hierarchy is like this: |
| 01:00:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Root->(WPS/FM/Rec)->Menu. So, when you leave the menu, it returns you to whichever of the middle ones the menu was invoked from. If it wasn't from one of those, it goes to the Root. |
| 01:00:54 | RaeNye | what's root? |
| 01:00:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | From within the menu, the Record button should take you to the Rec screen, and the play button should resume playback if necessary and go to the WPS |
| 01:01:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Root == File System |
| 01:01:23 | RaeNye | and when USBOTG is implemented, where do you see it? |
| 01:01:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | As a virtual folder mounted in \ |
| 01:01:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | For UMS devices at least. |
| 01:02:16 | RaeNye | enter virtual folders. why not have them for other uses? |
| 01:02:29 | RaeNye | (e.g., playlist) |
| 01:02:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because a playlist can already be opened with the playlist viewer? |
| 01:03:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | With the USBOTG virtual folder, you're still seeing nothing but real files. |
| 01:03:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you browsed into a playlist you ask the question of virtual files. References to other ones. |
| 01:03:37 | RaeNye | isn't that a playlist? |
| 01:03:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Isn't what a playlist? |
| 01:04:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | A playlist is a list of where to find real files. |
| 01:04:05 | RaeNye | a collection of references to *real* files |
| 01:04:22 | RaeNye | same as USBOTG connection |
| 01:04:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | No |
| 01:04:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | The USBOTG is the addition of real files. |
| 01:04:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Each file has one entry. Where it is. |
| 01:05:18 | RaeNye | but that's how the camera shows it to you |
| 01:05:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | What do you mean? |
| 01:05:39 | Landus | Can anyone here code in at least one computer language? |
| 01:05:52 | RaeNye | a usbotg connection supplies you with a list of files |
| 01:06:00 | RaeNye | landus: LOL |
| 01:06:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | It supplies you with a drive to mount. |
| 01:06:09 | Landus | RaeNye: What? |
| 01:06:30 | RaeNye | I think most people here are devs |
| 01:06:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | There is a very big difference between "A list of files that exist elsewhere" and "The list of files that exist within me" |
| 01:07:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | For the first, they're real files that are OUTSIDE the playlist, and you can have multiple instances of each file, one or more instances per playlist. In the other, only the real files are shown, and only exactly as many as they are, only where they are. |
| 01:07:11 | RaeNye | paul_the_nerd: no... it supplies you with a list of objects and allows you to request an object |
| 01:07:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | From a protocol standpoint yes. But the difference is still between real files, and references to files. |
| 01:07:55 | RaeNye | there's no guarantie that the objects aren't generated on the fly |
| 01:08:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Okay, simplify this |
| 01:08:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | What is your justification for mounting playlists as folders? |
| 01:08:35 | RaeNye | unified navigation |
| 01:08:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | How? |
| 01:08:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | A playlist is a file. |
| 01:08:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | A file that is loaded, edited, and executed, but simply a file. |
| 01:09:06 | RaeNye | currently you can't examine playlist contents |
| 01:09:09 | PaulJam | Paul_The_Nerd: but arn't ther plans to integrate tagcache as a virtual folder in the future? and in tagcache one file cann appear in varous places (like in a playlist) |
| 01:09:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: Yes, you can. |
| 01:09:26 | RaeNye | textviewer? |
| 01:09:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | PaulJam: I'm against entering tagcache from the file tree |
| 01:09:36 | scorche | there is a playlist viewer |
| 01:09:47 | RaeNye | not current playlist. just a .m3u |
| 01:09:58 | Bagder | sure, current |
| 01:10:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: If you load it as a current playlist, you can then view it. This could be expanded to an "Open With" option. |
| 01:10:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | As well, yes, the text editor works. |
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| 01:10:34 | RaeNye | but just to see its contents, to decide if you want to load it |
| 01:10:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Both of these treat it as a file, which is preferable because it *is* a file. |
| 01:10:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wouldn't an "Open with" choice for "Playlist Viewer" solve that? |
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| 01:11:34 | RaeNye | yes (assuming you don't overwrite current playlist) but navigation is slower |
| 01:11:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | But it maintains the idea that files are files. |
| 01:12:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Right now, you click on a file, and it is invoked. |
| 01:12:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Your idea is that some files are hidden as part of the filesystem. |
| 01:13:03 | RaeNye | not necessarily hidden, just enterable as directories. |
| 01:13:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | But why bother to treat it as a directory? |
| 01:13:21 | RaeNye | think of navigating inside a .zip |
| 01:13:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's already been a suggestion of adding a second default action to files. |
| 01:13:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Clicking "Select" is one, and "Right" is the other. |
| 01:13:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | For Playlists, Right could be view. |
| 01:13:46 | RaeNye | I like that. |
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| 01:13:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's very similar, but it doesn't integrate it into the filesystem. |
| 01:14:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which maintains the integrity of "Files are Files" while achieving pretty much the goal you want. |
| 01:14:21 | RaeNye | yep. |
| 01:14:41 | RaeNye | BTW, my original thought about USBOTG was to have this as a plugin |
| 01:14:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | The idea then goes on to allowing an easy one-click "Insert" option, for adding songs to the current playlist. |
| 01:14:58 | sharpe | for songs, right could also be play without modifying current playlist. :) |
| 01:15:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mounting flash cards on Ondio already works as a virtual folder. |
| 01:15:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Queue, for that. |
| 01:15:11 | RaeNye | I guessed that this is where this all started |
| 01:15:16 | sharpe | :) |
| 01:15:33 | RaeNye | but USBOTG is lots of code (20k+) |
| 01:15:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Ideally, the secondary default action for music files would be configurable between "Insert next, Insert Last, Insert, Queue Next, Queue Last, and Queue" |
| 01:15:56 | sharpe | indeed. |
| 01:16:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | But that's *my* ideal |
| 01:16:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Others may have their own ideas. ;) |
| 01:16:16 | sharpe | hahah |
| 01:16:37 | RaeNye | btw, for right-to-left users there should be an option to switch the notion of right and left :) |
| 01:16:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | right-to-left users? |
| 01:16:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, right |
| 01:16:55 | RaeNye | hebrew, arabic, ... |
| 01:17:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | I figured it out 1 second before I saw that. :-P |
| 01:17:28 | RaeNye | I wouldn't care (I hate localized menus), but nevertheless... |
| 01:18:21 | sharpe | wasn't there someone who had asked about flipping the pacbox display and controls, on account of that they were left handed? |
| 01:18:23 | RaeNye | do all players have enough keys for dual action? |
| 01:18:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | RaeNye: All players so far have an 'invoke' of some sort (Select/Navi/Etc) and a Right key, I believe. |
| 01:19:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | sharpe: Yes, someone asked that. I told them to just play it upside down, since the mechanics and controls would work just fine. |
| 01:19:15 | RaeNye | Well, gotta go to sleep. |
| 01:19:20 | RaeNye | G'night all! |
| 01:19:23 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is left handed, but plays unflipped. |
| 01:19:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | G'night RaeNye |
| 01:19:28 | sharpe | same |
| 01:19:30 | sharpe | g'night |
| 01:19:31 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
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| 01:20:01 | sharpe | i don't find much of a problem being left handed either. |
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| 01:20:36 | sharpe | also, another action could be invoked on a 'long' keypress of the right button. |
| 01:21:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Actually, I think button-repeat on right should be removed. |
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| 01:21:20 | sharpe | whyso? |
| 01:21:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Right now, if I hold right, it jumps through a bunch of folders and then runs a gameboy rom. |
| 01:21:46 | sharpe | ah. |
| 01:22:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can see quickly backing out, but quickly entering and invoking is kinda dangerous, since if you forget to lock when you put it in your pocket, it's an additional way to stop playback. |
| 01:22:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | Though, press and hold Right could be a good way to enter FM for FM units.... |
| 01:22:47 | sharpe | could also just have an option to ignore button-repeat on the file browser... :D |
| 01:22:58 | sharpe | for right and such. |
| 01:23:37 | sharpe | hmm, i have never, held right in the file browser. |
| 01:23:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Neither have I intentionally |
| 01:23:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which is why I think it'd be good for "FM" |
| 01:24:01 | sharpe | heh. |
| 01:25:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I'd use FM much more than recording, and recording's gonna get a button of its own. :-P |
| 01:26:15 | sharpe | hmm... what about a button re-mapping option for rockbox in general? for those users who want to choose their own keys and such... |
| 01:27:38 | sharpe | would probably only need to apply to the browser... |
| 01:27:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that's overkill. |
| 01:27:55 | sharpe | hahah. |
| 01:28:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Additional complexity + the possibility that users will make their player unusable. |
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| 01:28:19 | sharpe | yeah, that's always a problem with that. |
| 01:28:28 | PaulJam | Paul_The_Nerd: why are you against having a virtual folder for tagcache? if i use tagcache i find it very annoying, that i often have to switch the fileview back to tree when i want to acess a non-music file (e.g. a .cfg or .txt file). |
| 01:29:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | PaulJam: My view is that from within TagCache, there should be a hard-coded entry at the top of the list "Filetree" from which you can browse the filetree. |
| 01:30:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | But that from within the filetree it is unnecessary to have a virtual link to the Cache. If you accessed the 'tree from TC, then you can back up back into TC, but if you're just in Filetree mode, it's unnecessary to have the link. |
| 01:30:40 | PaulJam | Paul_The_Nerd: yes, this would propably be a good soulution. |
| 01:31:20 | sharpe | something is terribly wrong. my bandwidth limit seems to be, one meg. |
| 01:32:02 | sharpe | i think it's a habit of mine to put commas everywhere. |
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| 01:43:01 | PaulJam | hmm, maybe another solution would be to have an entry for the other browsing method in the main menu. so if you are in tagcache mode you have an entry "Filetree" in the menu and in filetree mode the entry would be "TagCache" (if it is built). |
| 01:43:19 | sharpe | ahey, lets make an option for it. hahah... |
| 01:45:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think that having the Filetree link in the TagCache menu should pretty much cover it anyway. |
| 01:45:20 | scottder | Rockbox + Sansa e200 series player would be sweet |
| 01:45:41 | * | scottder is sticking with flash based players, so the more the merrier :) |
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| 01:54:44 | PaulJam | i would still prefer having a virtual folder in filetree, because i think i would mainly use the tree for navigation and tacgcache only for special tasks like creating a playlist by genre. but i guess it's impossible to make everyone happy :) |
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| 01:58:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 01:58:30 | sharpe | what about a virtual folder in both? |
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| 02:21:16 | midkay | what about a SHHHH. |
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| 02:29:05 | grimman | Gah. I feel so dumb. |
| 02:29:20 | grimman | Tried for like 15 minutes to get to the filebrowser from the play screen. |
| 02:34:47 | midkay | don't forget about the manual. |
| 02:35:34 | grimman | I know, I know. |
| 02:35:44 | grimman | Just got home and the first thing I did was look it up. |
| 02:35:45 | grimman | Again. |
| 02:35:50 | grimman | This isn't the first time. ;) |
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| 02:53:29 | lostlogic | ugh, filebuf underrun = breakage... as I've learned by abusing my ipod under my motorcycle's seat. |
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| 03:02:58 | scottder | yikes |
| 03:03:51 | * | scottder keeps his nano entombed in it's aluminum case at all times and treats with gentle hands |
| 03:04:22 | scottder | course I treated all my HD based players the same...but HDs...they just loved to die on me |
| 03:06:56 | grimman | I use the pocket thingy I got with my iPod. |
| 03:06:58 | JdGordon | i have a fetchmail setup so it forwards all my mail from my isp account to my gmail account, that works fine, so can i assume that sendmail is set up correctly? |
| 03:07:02 | JdGordon | or bad assumption? |
| 03:07:04 | grimman | Works quite nicely. |
| 03:07:26 | grimman | JdGordon: If it works, it works, no? ;) |
| 03:07:54 | JdGordon | yes, but im trying to use sendmail from the command line and its not working :'( so i need to know if sendmail is actually working or not |
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| 03:08:51 | scottder | pocket thingy? :) |
| 03:09:01 | grimman | Yerr... |
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| 03:09:24 | grimman | It's a cloth thingy the size of the iPod. Quite a snug fit. |
| 03:09:36 | grimman | Very cozy material, soft. |
| 03:09:44 | scottder | Ahh....they weren't including that when I got mine |
| 03:09:49 | grimman | Aha. |
| 03:09:53 | scottder | and I like just keeping mine in the case |
| 03:10:07 | grimman | Well I would probably have bought a case or a "skin" if I didn't get this. |
| 03:10:19 | grimman | I've heard lots of horror stories about the display. |
| 03:10:48 | scottder | pretty much the only exposed part on this is the click wheel...ports on the bottm and the hold button |
| 03:11:00 | scottder | works for me...and was pretty cheap for a aluminum case |
| 03:11:02 | grimman | And just having the thing on the table next to the computer (I don't have a dock) has scratched the back a tiny bit. Annoying but hardly noticeable. |
| 03:11:21 | grimman | Ah. I expose nothing on mine. ;) |
| 03:11:44 | grimman | The protection is soft enough to allow me to just manage the controls through it. |
| 03:12:12 | scottder | http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10300000_2000000_191&products_id=1986&osCsid=7ed0273042f1255c3e04d5c4962cad90 |
| 03:12:34 | scottder | the lanyward is useless....but otherwise I like it |
| 03:15:12 | grimman | Looks nice enough. |
| 03:15:21 | grimman | I'm not too fond of the totally blank iPod look. |
| 03:15:50 | scottder | given my druther I'd have mine "naked as well" but this gives it the pickup and go I need |
| 03:16:08 | scottder | just throw it in my pocket with my Koss KSC-35's and headphone amp and I am good to go |
| 03:16:33 | grimman | Extra equipment... pah. ;D |
| 03:17:44 | scottder | very portable and great sound....works for me |
| 03:18:18 | scottder | plus rockbox is the cherry on top...all my music encoded in ogg vorbis...Q3 is the sweet spot of sound to size |
| 03:18:22 | scottder | for me |
| 03:20:08 | grimman | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Ipod_5th_Generation_white.jpg << That pic includes the protection thingy. Only mine is black, of course. ;) |
| 03:20:48 | grimman | OGG, he says... mmyes, I don't actively encode my stuff in OGG, but I have a few tracks by Machinae Supremacy that are OGG encoded. |
| 03:21:03 | grimman | It bugged me ALOT when the iPod couldn't play them. |
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| 03:22:12 | konstant | hello everyone |
| 03:22:16 | grimman | lo |
| 03:22:29 | konstant | i have a question |
| 03:22:47 | konstant | how do i load the original firmware |
| 03:23:14 | JdGordon | tap the screen 3 times before turning it on |
| 03:23:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | konstant: Well, the first thing you might want to do is tell us which player, as we don't read minds around here. |
| 03:23:34 | scorche | konstant: on what device? |
| 03:23:39 | konstant | ipod |
| 03:23:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | konstant: The second thing you might want to do is read the manual and/or FAQ for said player. |
| 03:23:43 | scottder | I had some stuff in AAC files but I just reeneced the music....Rockbox was havving issue with them |
| 03:23:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | The _rockbox_ manual for said player, specifically. |
| 03:24:38 | konstant | i tried holding the menu button once it turns on but its still rockbox not apple |
| 03:25:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then you're doing it wrong. |
| 03:25:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | You probably aren't holding it early enough, or are wiggling your finger, or are releasing it before it says "Loading Original Firmware" or a combination of the above. |
| 03:27:57 | konstant | hmm |
| 03:27:58 | konstant | i'll try that |
| 03:28:13 | konstant | thanks , ill keep that in mind |
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| 03:29:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I always wonder if, when they question whether holding Menu is right, they're assuming it's broken and nobody has yet noticed, or we just don't know how it works. |
| 03:29:50 | grimman | Said Paul_The_Nerd with venom oozing from his fangs. |
| 03:29:51 | grimman | ;) |
| 03:30:39 | scottder | Not reading the docs/wiki/faq should hurt....in all open source projects |
| 03:31:53 | grimman | =) |
| 03:32:18 | Bloody_Sorcerer | holding menu? |
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| 03:33:26 | phlipp | does anyone have any experience with compiling the rockbox package? |
| 03:33:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you have a question about it? |
| 03:33:58 | Bloody_Sorcerer | i suspect 75% of this channel does, hopefully more ;) |
| 03:34:10 | phlipp | I am having difficulty getting a package for ubuntu that provides support for arm |
| 03:34:19 | grimman | Bloody_Sorcerer: If you're gonna do the maths, count me out. |
| 03:34:21 | grimman | ;) |
| 03:34:24 | Bloody_Sorcerer | lol |
| 03:34:25 | Bloody_Sorcerer | :) |
| 03:35:06 | scorche | was i the only one that was going to express a reply with a tint of sarcasm among other less desirable expressions? |
| 03:35:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | phlipp: Try rockboxdev.sh in the /tools/ folder |
| 03:35:09 | scorche | =P |
| 03:35:44 | scorche | wait...that reply was tinted with sarcasm |
| 03:35:55 | scorche | i need to idle more... |
| 03:36:35 | Bloody_Sorcerer | we have enough idle:) |
| 03:37:02 | phlipp | thanks it looks like its working |
| 03:37:28 | phlipp | I don't suppose that could be added to the how to compile page on the rockbox website? |
| 03:37:39 | * | scottder is lazy....no experience compiling rockbox.....why bother when others will do it for me....faster than my liunx box could too :) |
| 03:38:26 | Bloody_Sorcerer | scottder, sometimes we like to add patches and such ;) |
| 03:38:41 | phlipp | there's always the because I can part too |
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| 03:39:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | phlipp: Well, it's still fairly new. Also, I'm not sure if it's the preferred method yet. It might be. But there's always also manually compiling the cross compilers, as well. |
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| 03:41:13 | phlipp | true, the web pages I found on the matter kindof suggested that, but they were old enough that it looked like the version of gcc that I have might not have been compatible |
| 03:43:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | What does your version of GCC have to do with it, since it's not the version you'll be using to compile Rockbox anyway? |
| 03:45:15 | orthogonal_away | Paul_The_Nerd: it's the gcc he'll ise yto compile the cross-compilers? |
| 03:47:30 | | Part beoba |
| 03:47:41 | phlipp | 'm not going to pretend like I completely know what I'm doing, but I thought I would be using whatever arm library I could find to provide more functionality to GCC to allow it to compile for the arm architecture |
| 03:47:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, but how much newer a GCC can you have than 4.0.x, which I believe is the recommended version for ARM. |
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| 03:47:54 | phlipp | the pages I was looking at were talking about version 2 |
| 03:48:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | phlipp: The CrossCompiler page specifically tells you to download the source archive you need. |
| 03:48:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only version 2 on there is binutils 2.1.6 |
| 03:48:47 | phlipp | I assume you mean the rockbox source archives |
| 03:48:49 | phlipp | which I did |
| 03:49:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, the source archive of GCC... |
| 03:49:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you actually read the page, or sorta skim it and then assume it wouldn't work? |
| 03:50:41 | phlipp | first off I'm looking at this page |
| 03:50:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | It pretty much talks you through the download and install every part you need. |
| 03:50:54 | phlipp | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/HowToCompile |
| 03:51:11 | phlipp | although closer inspection also shows this page http://www.rockbox.org/docs/how_to_compile.html |
| 03:51:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | And neither of those tells you how to get the cross compilers. |
| 03:51:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | But you said you'd read something that did. |
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| 03:51:53 | phlipp | however the latter just says "or you can download the complete source package with fonts and all from the daily build page and unpack it:" |
| 03:52:05 | phlipp | http://www.tazenda.demon.co.uk/phil/arm-tools.html |
| 03:52:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | What on earth pointed you there? |
| 03:52:31 | phlipp | google |
| 03:52:32 | midkay | maybe it was something on mars. |
| 03:52:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you try searching the *rockbox* site for cross compiler information? |
| 03:53:05 | phlipp | I assumed that I simply needed a package that I didn't have |
| 03:53:15 | * | Paul_The_Nerd points to the word "assumed" |
| 03:53:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | The "CrossCompiler" wiki page tells you how to properly install the Cross Compilers used to compile the various versions of Rockbox. |
| 03:53:43 | phlipp | based on the fact that the document I was reading asked to make sure I had sh-elf-gcc |
| 03:54:56 | phlipp | I confess that I didn't find nor read the crosscompiler wiki page |
| 03:55:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | How does that lead you to assume you should download some random package, without actually getting input into specifically what you need? |
| 03:55:07 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shrugs |
| 03:55:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, do whatever you want. |
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| 03:56:42 | phlipp | well I've taken up enough of your collective time, thanks for the help, see you later |
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| 03:56:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Good luck with compiling |
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| 04:14:09 | scorche | s/Good luck/Have fun |
| 04:14:10 | scorche | ;) |
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| 04:58:58 | orthogonal_away | Paul_The_Nerd: wu? |
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| 04:59:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wu? |
| 04:59:50 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is confused by the drive-by wu-ing. |
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| 05:00:11 | midkay | HAHA. |
| 05:01:51 | * | Paul_The_Nerd is perhaps too easily confused. |
| 05:02:19 | midkay | i understood it fully. |
| 05:03:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm trying to figure out if it's in reference to the ancient Chinese dynasty, or some sort of abbreviation for "whut up" or something equally arcane. None of these make sense in this channel's context, though. |
| 05:04:00 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:04:22 | k8to_ | Wu Ti |
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| 05:11:06 | JdGordon | would any1 like to to a php frontend for my automated build system for me?> |
| 05:12:19 | JdGordon | all i need is a drop list with the targets, a text thing for an email and a big text thing for a list of the patches they want applied.. |
| 05:12:25 | * | JdGordon hates html/php :'( |
| 05:14:09 | JdGordon | silence.... |
| 05:14:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm happy with PHP, not fond of HTML. It's an odd state to be in. |
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| 05:15:32 | grimman | Paul_The_Nerd: Shared by a programmer friend of mine. |
| 05:15:43 | grimman | I personally manage quite fine with both. ;> |
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| 05:18:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | I hate HTML forms. |
| 05:18:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's really the only part I hate. |
| 05:19:18 | grimman | =) |
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| 05:19:38 | bagawk | Paul_The_Nerd: what are you saying? All your PHP ends up generating (X)HTML code... |
| 05:19:44 | grimman | I'm more of a design monkey though. Forms don't really bother me. |
| 05:20:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | bagawk: Actually, most of the PHP work I've ended up doing was using GDI. |
| 05:21:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | GD |
| 05:22:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ugh |
| 05:22:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Whatever. |
| 05:22:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | I can't even seem to remember its name right now. |
| 05:22:15 | bagawk | Paul_The_Nerd: ? |
| 05:22:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Whatever that stupid graphics library was called. |
| 05:22:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | All the PHP I did actually outputted PNG images based on input by forms created by other people. |
| 05:23:13 | bagawk | ohh |
| 05:23:58 | bagawk | I remember that library |
| 05:25:36 | bagawk | I have been playing with ruby on rails lately |
| 05:26:00 | bagawk | If you really don't want to write much HTML, it is nice |
| 05:27:08 | bagawk | And ruby is 100% object oriented :) |
| 05:27:20 | bagawk | even say the number 10 is an object in ruby |
| 05:28:51 | grimman | Hm. My current PHP project is kinda GD heavy. =) |
| 05:29:19 | JdGordon | so, back to my quesiton... can i get one of you to do the php for me please? :p |
| 05:30:14 | grimman | It's quite possible I'd love to. But I'm stretched for time as it is. |
| 05:31:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | bagawk: I'm actually not quite fond of overly object oriented stuff, at the moment. |
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| 05:36:45 | k8to_ | Paul_The_Nerd: i would say ruby/small talk OO is not "overly" but "real" |
| 05:37:01 | k8to_ | it's way less heavy than the popularlized variant we encounter more frequently |
| 05:37:16 | k8to_ | (not that I think it is perfect) |
| 05:46:03 | * | JdGordon obviously hasnt been taught OO properly, i dnt really like it |
| 05:46:21 | k8to_ | C++/Java is broken OO |
| 05:46:47 | k8to_ | if you want to understand the point of it, you should play with a fine grained single tree oo language |
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| 05:47:24 | BigMac | anyone here ever made a wps |
| 05:47:38 | * | JdGordon once |
| 05:47:49 | JdGordon | back in the days before they went fancy with pics n stuff |
| 05:48:34 | BigMac | oh well mine is fancy |
| 05:48:36 | BigMac | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/JellyFish1024.jpg |
| 05:48:48 | BigMac | i want to put that as a wps background |
| 05:49:10 | JdGordon | that shouldnt be hard |
| 05:49:15 | BigMac | really |
| 05:49:30 | BigMac | i want to do it as a bacground in jblackglass |
| 05:49:48 | BigMac | what should i read up on if i want to take on the task |
| 05:49:51 | JdGordon | either save it as backgounrd.bmp (or whatevr that wps is expecting) |
| 05:49:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Scale it to the appropriate size, save it as a 24-bit bitmap, and change the %X tag to point to it... |
| 05:50:00 | JdGordon | or change the wps file to point to that bmp instead |
| 05:50:44 | BigMac | what size does it need to be scaled to? |
| 05:51:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | The resolution of your screen. |
| 05:51:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | What iPod do you have? |
| 05:51:27 | BigMac | 5g |
| 05:51:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | 320x240 |
| 05:51:53 | BloodySorcerer | PTN, nice assumption on the ipod there :) |
| 05:52:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | BloodySorcerer: I remembered him having an iPod from earlier, but was only about 80% sure it was 5G |
| 05:52:30 | BloodySorcerer | ah |
| 05:52:42 | BloodySorcerer | in that case, nice memory :) |
| 05:53:13 | BigMac | were is should i save the file? |
| 05:53:21 | BigMac | in .rockbox? |
| 05:53:24 | JdGordon | BloodySorcerer: na, your right... its fairly easy to guess who has an ipod or not by their questions... but BigMac has been here before so not a real guess |
| 05:53:31 | BloodySorcerer | hehe |
| 05:53:32 | BloodySorcerer | :) |
| 05:53:46 | JdGordon | BigMac: ususally .rockbox/wps/<wpsname> |
| 05:53:55 | BigMac | thank you |
| 05:54:23 | BigMac | so i just save it over a current bmp |
| 05:54:31 | JdGordon | there is probably a background.bmp there to save over |
| 05:55:10 | BigMac | in wps i have all the themes folders but i cant find a backgroung .bmp in there anywere |
| 05:55:36 | BigMac | all the b's are bat |
| 05:55:40 | JdGordon | in the wps/<wpsname> fodler there is no background.bmp or similar ? |
| 05:56:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Well, there's probably a BMP it uses for the background. Just look for the one with the biggest file size. |
| 05:56:32 | BigMac | in the backdrops folder there is some bmps with the theme names |
| 05:56:39 | BigMac | but none in the wps folder |
| 05:56:45 | * | Paul_The_Nerd sighs. |
| 05:56:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | In the WPS folder, there should be another folder with your theme's name |
| 05:56:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Go into that |
| 05:57:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then save it over the largest .bmp file there. |
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| 05:58:48 | BigMac | ok it is bg but that has all the blackglass bars on it, do i need that all on this pic? or does it configure itself? |
| 05:59:16 | BigMac | like the pause bar and stuff |
| 05:59:45 | JdGordon | its prob bg |
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| 06:00:03 | aliask | JdGordon: What did you want that PHP thing to do? |
| 06:00:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: You need anything you want to have. |
| 06:00:13 | JdGordon | and it probably puts other bmps over the bg, so if your bg doesnt have them its no real big deal |
| 06:00:23 | BigMac | ok |
| 06:00:28 | JdGordon | aliask: dump some info from a form to a txt file |
| 06:00:37 | BigMac | well im making a backup of the bg file just in case |
| 06:00:38 | JdGordon | ive got someone doing it already :) |
| 06:00:51 | aliask | Ok then, I love PHP though :) |
| 06:00:58 | JdGordon | cept in js i tihnk, so i might change it to php if its no good |
| 06:01:11 | JdGordon | hehe, ill keep u in mind if that happens |
| 06:01:31 | BigMac | and where is the file were i have to change %x |
| 06:01:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | %X not %x |
| 06:01:41 | JdGordon | u dont if u kept the filename |
| 06:01:47 | BigMac | ok |
| 06:01:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's only one %X, and you don't have to change it if you saved over the old file |
| 06:01:49 | JdGordon | i mean i you overwrote the bg file |
| 06:01:54 | BigMac | k |
| 06:02:03 | BigMac | ill test it now |
| 06:04:03 | * | JdGordon wonders how many idiots are gonna try emaling my dummy email because of problems with the auto build system :) |
| 06:06:25 | BloodySorcerer | somewhere between 0 and 25 i'd wager. |
| 06:07:03 | BigMac | k the screen came up but it doesnt look right |
| 06:07:19 | BigMac | the bar is all meessed up and the text is everywere |
| 06:07:45 | BigMac | parts of it are missing |
| 06:07:50 | JdGordon | well ye |
| 06:07:52 | BigMac | and the top bar is gone |
| 06:07:58 | JdGordon | they were parts of the orgional background |
| 06:08:11 | BigMac | the bottom bar is up |
| 06:08:29 | BigMac | well how do i make it so it looks like it did before |
| 06:08:35 | BigMac | cept with this picture |
| 06:08:49 | JdGordon | does the origional one have pink all over it? |
| 06:09:01 | BigMac | no i dont think so |
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| 06:09:17 | JdGordon | ok, well u need to copy the missing bits onto your bg |
| 06:09:27 | JdGordon | also and pink bits need to be copied too |
| 06:09:28 | aliask | Hrm, I think someone should look at this, the 100 Most recent changes page (for the wiki) is broken. (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MoreRecentChanges) |
| 06:09:34 | JdGordon | and they have to be pixel perfect |
| 06:09:48 | BigMac | yah like thatll happen sigh |
| 06:09:59 | JdGordon | aliask: works here |
| 06:10:22 | aliask | Are you getting the latest ones though? On that page I'm getting only up to the 20th |
| 06:10:34 | BigMac | is their anyway i can take a screenshot of it |
| 06:10:42 | JdGordon | 13 Jul 2005 - 01:37 UserListByPhotograph TWikiContributor is the last one |
| 06:11:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: You *really* should get around to reading the manual some day. The Screen Dump should be mentioned in it. |
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| 06:11:30 | JdGordon | aliask: still wanna do that php page? |
| 06:11:34 | aliask | Sure |
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| 06:12:36 | JdGordon | :) all i need is a form which has a text field for email, a drop list and some way to get lots of text from the user, it all needs to be appended to the file BUILDS |
| 06:12:54 | JdGordon | i dont think thats hard but its beyond me atm :p |
| 06:13:05 | aliask | Ok, shouldn't be a problem |
| 06:13:11 | JdGordon | cheers :) |
| 06:13:14 | BigMac | .manual doesnt work |
| 06:14:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | How do you mean "doesn't work? |
| 06:14:41 | BigMac | The requested URL /manual/rockbox-ipodvideo-20060617.pdf was not found on this server. |
| 06:14:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm, it works for me. |
| 06:15:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | But the screendump feature apparently isn't in the manual anyway |
| 06:15:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wonder if that's intentional |
| 06:15:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Anyway, there' a screendump option in the debug menu. Enable it, and when you plug in USB, it takes a screenshot instead of connecting. Disable it when you need normal USB again |
| 06:17:36 | BigMac | and were does it put the image |
| 06:18:50 | JdGordon | in the root of the hdd |
| 06:18:54 | JdGordon | / |
| 06:20:56 | BigMac | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060723-001758.jpg |
| 06:21:06 | BigMac | thats what it looks like |
| 06:21:12 | BigMac | now what can i do to fix it |
| 06:21:14 | JdGordon | that looks ok |
| 06:21:20 | JdGordon | how do u want to fix it? |
| 06:21:29 | BigMac | the backgorund looks fine |
| 06:21:40 | BigMac | but all the bars are broken |
| 06:21:57 | JdGordon | copy the bars from the origional bmp onto your new background |
| 06:21:58 | BigMac | and the text is off to far to one side |
| 06:23:03 | BigMac | what can i do to get the bar back |
| 06:24:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | He's already told you |
| 06:24:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | More than once |
| 06:24:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Copy the bar from the original bmp. |
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| 06:25:10 | | Nick JoeyBorn is now known as JoeBorn (n=rootmeis@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:25:15 | BigMac | yah im doing that now. |
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| 06:25:23 | BigMac | im talking about the bottom bar |
| 06:25:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | It applies to both of them... |
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| 06:26:52 | BigMac | by copying the top bar it fixes the bottom bar |
| 06:27:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, by copying the bottom bar it fixes the bottom bar. |
| 06:31:27 | | Part blackvd |
| 06:39:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 06:47:08 | BigMac | anyone know of a program or someone who could make the background to this transparent http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/captain_america_01.jpg |
| 06:49:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | You mean the black bits? |
| 06:50:48 | BigMac | yah the black outside |
| 06:51:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Fill it with 255, 0, 255 (used as the transparent color in RockBox) |
| 06:51:55 | | Join Doomed [0] (n=nnscript@ool-44c126d4.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:52:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | See the CustomWPS page. |
| 06:52:22 | Doomed | hey i have a question about tag cache |
| 06:53:24 | * | Paul_The_Nerd waits for the question. |
| 06:53:31 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:53:56 | Doomed | if i have a various artist album, after i click sort by artist, will it come up as Various Artists > name of album > and when i click the song, the song will have the ID3 of the song with the right artist name? |
| 06:54:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | I like the people who say "Hey, can I ask a question?" because I'm sorely tempted to tell them "Sorry, limit's 1, so you're all used up." |
| 06:54:34 | Doomed | lol |
| 06:54:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: TagCache does not yet recognized multi-artist albums as being a single album with multiple artists, but instead sees them as multiple albums of the same name by different artists, and scatters the songs. |
| 06:55:01 | BigMac | no i want it so it is transparent here so i can paste it on top of my current design |
| 06:55:07 | BigMac | otherwise it would cover it |
| 06:55:08 | Doomed | ah ok |
| 06:55:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | It would be somewhat difficult to resolve it to work the other way since we can't reliably expect all songs from an artist to be in the same folder or anything |
| 06:55:34 | Doomed | true |
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| 06:55:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: I just TOLD you how to make the black parts transparent. |
| 06:55:41 | Doomed | im trying to think of a way to do this |
| 06:55:56 | BigMac | yah but that would be transparent in rockbox |
| 06:56:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: Name the artist "Various" then create a tree that goes "Artist > Composer" and set it in their composer tag? |
| 06:56:16 | BigMac | then i wouldnt be able to se the background under it. |
| 06:56:28 | BigMac | it would just be clear all around it |
| 06:56:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Oh, you want to add it into the backdrop. You can even use the lasso in Paint to cut a circle out... |
| 06:57:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | In more advanced programs you could select all the black, then invert the selection |
| 06:57:16 | Doomed | i didnt understand that, but it could scan Album artist first right?.. |
| 06:57:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: Huh? |
| 06:57:34 | Doomed | nvm im lost |
| 06:57:34 | Doomed | lol |
| 06:57:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | In TagCache you can create your own sorts. |
| 06:57:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Put all the artists in the "Composer" tag on the songs |
| 06:57:57 | Doomed | tutorial anywhere? |
| 06:58:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then, put the Artist tag as simply saying "Various" |
| 06:58:13 | BigMac | i dont think there is a lasso in paint |
| 06:58:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | No tutorial because the format's not set. Open up tagnavi.config in any text editor and it should be a relatively clear syntax |
| 06:58:23 | BigMac | it just has rectangular select |
| 06:58:36 | Doomed | ok ill try that when i find my mp3 player |
| 06:58:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: It also has a linear select |
| 06:58:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Which can be used for your purposes if you can't be bothered to use a better program. |
| 06:59:26 | BigMac | i would if i could. i don't have a job to buy programs |
| 06:59:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are free image editing programs that are suitable as well. |
| 06:59:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | But just use the line select. |
| 06:59:53 | Doomed | cough download PS CS2 cough |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: Please don't suggest people pirate software in here. |
| 07:00:24 | BigMac | i don't like gimp |
| 07:00:25 | Doomed | lol ok |
| 07:00:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: So use paint. |
| 07:01:07 | BigMac | i am |
| 07:01:16 | BigMac | but when i use the other select |
| 07:01:23 | BigMac | it stil selects a box |
| 07:01:48 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shrugs |
| 07:01:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then paint sucks horribly |
| 07:01:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Copy it in boxes, or use a better program |
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| 07:02:22 | BigMac | once again i would if i could |
| 07:02:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can |
| 07:02:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | You choose not to. |
| 07:02:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | There's a difference. |
| 07:03:34 | BigMac | no i can't |
| 07:03:39 | BigMac | i cannot use gimp |
| 07:03:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | You physically can. You can click a mouse. |
| 07:03:53 | BigMac | and i can't afford to buy a better imaging software |
| 07:03:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | You will not use gimp. |
| 07:05:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | One solution is to create a WPS with JUST the backdrop and the image, with the transparent color filled in, no text or anything, and then save a screendump of that WPS. |
| 07:06:32 | JdGordon | does anyone want to test my build-your-own-rockbox page? |
| 07:06:42 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php |
| 07:07:25 | BigMac | jd i have a question |
| 07:07:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | I swear, if I get support requests for the ouput of that, I'm coming for YOU JdGordon |
| 07:07:37 | BigMac | could you apply a patch to a build |
| 07:07:57 | JdGordon | BigMac: thats the whole point of that page :) |
| 07:08:01 | JdGordon | hehe Paul_The_Nerd |
| 07:09:11 | BigMac | ok so if i say wanted a patch applied to jbuild, youd do it |
| 07:09:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Not applied to jbuild... |
| 07:09:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | That page is for automatically applying patches from the tracker to a normal Rockbox build. |
| 07:09:46 | JdGordon | BigMac: no, find the url of the patch you want, goto that link and fill in the details and wait :) |
| 07:10:00 | BigMac | ah nvm. i like my jblackglass |
| 07:11:41 | BigMac | well i found out i have a copy of image ready on my comp |
| 07:12:15 | BigMac | is their any better way to select a circular object to copy the lasso because it is quite hard to stay steady with it |
| 07:13:26 | sharpe | JdGordon: i had that same idea a while ago... |
| 07:13:44 | JdGordon | :) beat ya to it |
| 07:13:49 | sharpe | yep :) |
| 07:14:01 | JdGordon | its actually the very first perl script apart from assignments that actually does sometinhg :p |
| 07:14:04 | midkay | NO I HAD THAT IDEA BEFORE ANY OF YOU I WIN |
| 07:14:16 | sharpe | midkay: nobody cares. |
| 07:14:41 | midkay | nobody cares that YOU "thought of it before him". which is why i mocked you! |
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| 07:14:53 | Harry | yo |
| 07:15:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: I already told you another way to do it, using Rockbox, that's much easier than lasso, but not quite as easy as color-based selection |
| 07:15:27 | Harry | anything new |
| 07:15:31 | sharpe | i didn't want anybody to care; i was just informing him that i had a similar idea. |
| 07:15:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: See the changelog. |
| 07:16:18 | BigMac | paul: like i said before that would make the bakgroung trans parent in rockbox showing nothing. i want it to show the image behind it |
| 07:16:20 | Harry | >:o |
| 07:16:57 | midkay | i was just informing you that i had a similar one too. |
| 07:17:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: Did you read the SECOND method I said for doing it. |
| 07:17:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | It would do EXACTLY what you said you wanted. |
| 07:17:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: Why the ugly face? |
| 07:17:18 | sharpe | i was informing you that nobody cared about you. |
| 07:17:21 | Harry | lmao |
| 07:17:39 | Harry | its a angry/suprised face paul |
| 07:17:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes, and why? |
| 07:17:48 | BigMac | so its either transparent or lasso |
| 07:17:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: No. |
| 07:18:04 | Harry | i dont want to see change log |
| 07:18:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: You aren't listening. The second method I told you will get you *exactly* what you want as a backdrop image. |
| 07:18:06 | Harry | lol |
| 07:18:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | Harry: Then don't ask what's new. |
| 07:18:19 | Harry | lol |
| 07:18:40 | Harry | >:( |
| 07:19:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: I like the no support available anywhere bit. ;) |
| 07:20:02 | Harry | paul wats new |
| 07:20:10 | JdGordon | :) |
| 07:20:12 | Harry | since the freeze lift |
| 07:20:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | See the changelog. |
| 07:20:31 | Harry | o comon |
| 07:20:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | You can read it just as well as I can. |
| 07:20:45 | Harry | copy paste here |
| 07:20:49 | midkay | sigh.. |
| 07:21:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not gonna bloody flood the channel just so you don't have to open a web browser window |
| 07:21:39 | midkay | it's prettier on the site anyways.. you could read it, or you could stop asking. the last one especially would be ideal. |
| 07:21:52 | sharpe | i'm waiting for that one question of his... |
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| 07:22:37 | midkay | JdGordon: prepare for build overload while i open about ten tabs and request builds in each ;) |
| 07:22:48 | JdGordon | thats ok |
| 07:22:56 | JdGordon | ill just erase the build que |
| 07:23:04 | JdGordon | i dont think its set to run for a few hours anyway |
| 07:23:05 | midkay | .. as well as any other innocent users' requests! |
| 07:23:23 | midkay | mwuhuhuahaHAhahaHeheeheHEhEhehe. |
| 07:23:31 | sharpe | i'll just pick random patches... |
| 07:23:33 | JdGordon | ye, next run is 3.5 hours |
| 07:23:46 | JdGordon | please do.. i want to test it prooperly... |
| 07:23:46 | | Quit Febs (Connection reset by peer) |
| 07:24:27 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:25:25 | JdGordon | yes, the page looks retarted atm... |
| 07:25:32 | sharpe | yeah, kinda. |
| 07:26:08 | midkay | JdGordon: you need a logo don't you. |
| 07:26:33 | JdGordon | not really, but i wont pass one up if one is offered :) |
| 07:27:01 | midkay | sigh, if you INSIST so HEAVILY. |
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| 07:27:37 | BigMac | would i still be able to use my jblackglass based theme without jbuild |
| 07:27:51 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd: btw, did you ever get forum FTP access? |
| 07:27:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: No |
| 07:28:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | midkay: No as well |
| 07:28:03 | sharpe | BigMac: only if you use a build with the same patches the theme requires. |
| 07:28:09 | midkay | Paul_The_Nerd: ah. :( |
| 07:29:32 | BigMac | aww |
| 07:29:36 | BigMac | oh well |
| 07:29:50 | BigMac | ill just have to wait till he applies all the patches i want |
| 07:31:07 | JdGordon | BigMac: use my link |
| 07:31:22 | BigMac | i want to |
| 07:31:38 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: Julius' patches aren't in the tracker anyway |
| 07:31:40 | BigMac | but i don't know all the patches i need to keep my wps working |
| 07:31:54 | JdGordon | oh, well that sux |
| 07:31:59 | BigMac | yah i guess |
| 07:32:23 | BigMac | but the theme is amazing and that is mainly what i use my pod for anyway |
| 07:33:54 | JdGordon | done! |
| 07:34:04 | JdGordon | now to get it moved to the rockbox sevrers :p |
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| 07:36:20 | sharpe | JdGordon: what is the purpose for the short_name/long description? |
| 07:37:24 | JdGordon | short name is the filename the patch is saved to loaclly, coz im lazy |
| 07:37:38 | JdGordon | long name is what is in the description f the build when its done |
| 07:38:00 | | Quit Febs (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 07:38:06 | JdGordon | im planning on making it so it can save patches so it doesnt have to download them al again every build |
| 07:38:37 | | Quit Harry (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 07:38:38 | JdGordon | the paypal link on it btw is to rockbox.org not me... |
| 07:38:43 | JdGordon | incase anyone cares |
| 07:39:32 | sharpe | hahah. |
| 07:39:55 | earHertz | Send me cash if you want my nesxt patch |
| 07:40:37 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:40:43 | | Join Ribs [0] (n=ribs@riblet.plus.com) |
| 07:40:47 | earHertz | I'm serious midkay |
| 07:40:54 | earHertz | I'll put for down for $10 |
| 07:40:54 | midkay | what is it? |
| 07:40:57 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:41:01 | earHertz | I'll put YOU for down for $10 |
| 07:41:05 | midkay | :(((( |
| 07:41:24 | earHertz | Um, my next is probbaly a highly optimized memcpy for ipods |
| 07:41:34 | midkay | nice. |
| 07:41:39 | sharpe | earHertz: i'll take you up on that offer of putting midkay down. |
| 07:41:48 | earHertz | It's already done, I just donm't want to release it yet |
| 07:41:51 | midkay | cause you can't yourself!?!? |
| 07:42:01 | earHertz | sharpe: ten bucks and I'll call him a doody-head |
| 07:42:09 | earHertz | lol |
| 07:42:12 | midkay | hahaha. |
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| 07:42:31 | midkay | JdGordon! |
| 07:42:33 | sharpe | actually i meant putting him down as in you know, taking his life. |
| 07:42:36 | midkay | http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2535/rbbyovp6.png |
| 07:42:48 | midkay | as you would with a dog, you mean. |
| 07:42:52 | earHertz | sharpe: he HAS a life? |
| 07:43:02 | midkay | like you've been threatened with so many times. |
| 07:43:03 | sharpe | earHertz: well, we'll find out. |
| 07:43:06 | JdGordon | midkay: awesome :D thanx |
| 07:43:15 | midkay | JdGordon: hooray! |
| 07:43:16 | midkay | :DDD |
| 07:43:24 | earHertz | midkay: "Build Your Own"? |
| 07:43:32 | midkay | earHertz: JdGordon's new page.. |
| 07:43:40 | midkay | "build your own rockbox" with a specified patch. |
| 07:43:47 | * | earHertz suggests adding "Or Pay the devs" |
| 07:43:53 | JdGordon | not a specified patch... multiple patches... |
| 07:43:54 | midkay | you submit one and apparently it's compiled automatically and sent to your email. |
| 07:43:55 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:43:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | earHertz: It's a form that lets you line up a series of patches from the tracker, and lets an automate build system take a crack at it. |
| 07:44:03 | midkay | JdGordon: right, that.. cool. |
| 07:44:08 | earHertz | Huh |
| 07:44:41 | earHertz | JdGordon: how will you control for incompatibel patches, ort patches that only work on certain devices |
| 07:44:42 | earHertz | ? |
| 07:45:07 | midkay | "patching failed, do it yourself"? |
| 07:45:08 | earHertz | christy, creating an index on 42M rows should not takle this long |
| 07:45:08 | midkay | :) |
| 07:45:11 | JdGordon | well if a patch doesnt apply cleanly he build is rejected |
| 07:45:35 | earHertz | and for patches that only work ob device X, there shouls be an ifdef |
| 07:46:05 | JdGordon | ye |
| 07:46:12 | JdGordon | uh oh... somethin not workign :p |
| 07:46:19 | * | earHertz smacks JdGordon with a large fish |
| 07:46:20 | sharpe | JdGordon: problems? |
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| 07:46:30 | earHertz | He can't spell "yes" ;) |
| 07:46:36 | sharpe | ah. |
| 07:46:45 | earHertz | ye |
| 07:46:46 | JdGordon | sharpe: ye, my perl script just decided to stop working :'( |
| 07:46:58 | sharpe | ooh |
| 07:47:07 | sharpe | what'd midkay do? |
| 07:47:14 | earHertz | yes, the error is "unexpected end of affirmative" |
| 07:47:16 | webguest56 | hello, is there a website where i can download all the themes and crap? |
| 07:47:24 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:47:51 | earHertz | webguest56: the main site, or look in teh forum for themes |
| 07:47:56 | earHertz | for crap, schiesse.de |
| 07:48:35 | midkay | ahah. |
| 07:49:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 07:52:06 | earHertz | he midkay what to do me a fasvor? |
| 07:52:42 | midkay | what. maybe! |
| 07:52:56 | BigMac | okay another problem |
| 07:53:03 | BigMac | i got all the images set |
| 07:53:08 | earHertz | you cock is too smal on teh ipod |
| 07:53:13 | BigMac | and it looks great on the computer |
| 07:53:18 | earHertz | CLOCK |
| 07:53:32 | midkay | earHertz: yes, i know. |
| 07:53:35 | BigMac | but when it is on the pod everything is all messed up |
| 07:53:40 | BigMac | im uploading a pic now |
| 07:53:44 | sharpe | well. i'm going to sleep. g'night. |
| 07:53:52 | earHertz | I use the thingaas a watch. Could you make int bigre? |
| 07:53:57 | midkay | karl (aka kkurbjun) did some work towards adapting to lcd size.. |
| 07:54:14 | Jungti1234 | HELLO guys |
| 07:54:16 | midkay | i still have some left to do. |
| 07:54:51 | midkay | earHertz: soon, i think. |
| 07:55:03 | midkay | haven't coded in a while, when i finish this hl2dm map i can get back to it. |
| 07:55:09 | BigMac | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060723-015210.jpg |
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| 07:55:12 | BigMac | there |
| 07:55:18 | BigMac | look at the bootom bar |
| 07:55:31 | BigMac | and how the top bar is all messed up |
| 07:55:32 | BigMac | bottom |
| 07:55:33 | earHertz | Jungti1234: it's "Helloohl2dm maop? |
| 07:55:43 | earHertz | hl2dm maop? |
| 07:56:00 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 07:56:05 | Jungti1234 | what's mean.. |
| 07:56:14 | earHertz | typo |
| 07:56:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | BigMac: You probably didn't put them in exactly the right place. You know it probably would've been easier to just paste a rectangle of your background on top of the existing background image. |
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| 07:56:44 | BigMac | hmm good idea |
| 07:56:44 | midkay | earHertz: half-life 2 deathmatch. |
| 07:57:03 | earHertz | oh, jeez. I thought you meant a .map file or something |
| 07:57:07 | midkay | haha. |
| 07:57:14 | midkay | yes, i'm.. writing a .map file.. ;) |
| 07:57:22 | earHertz | wwell, maybe a maopping |
| 07:57:32 | midkay | kidding, sire! |
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| 07:58:50 | midkay | but anyways. kkurbjun got analog mode, digital mode, lcd mode scaled correctly IIRC. i need to work on bitmaps for binary and plain mode, fullscreen mode might be thrown out, and then just some menu scaling. if he hasn't done that yet. |
| 07:59:07 | earHertz | I like fullscreen |
| 07:59:30 | JdGordon | ok, wierd perl problem... http://pastebin.ca/96804 .. if i comment out the cat /dev/null line it works fine, if i leave it $#instructions becomes -1?? (i need to clear $build_instructions as soon as its all read) |
| 07:59:42 | midkay | earHertz: alright then, maybe i can come up with an algorithm to generate it. :) |
| 07:59:51 | earHertz | thx |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:16 | midkay | sure, no guarantees.. nor any timewise. :) |
| 08:01:48 | BigMac | ok two more problems but theyll havta wait till the am |
| 08:02:04 | JdGordon | no perl gurus here aye? |
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| 08:06:16 | earHertz | dhouldn't it be @buiold_instructions? |
| 08:12:30 | Galois | what the hell, why can't you just undef($build_instructions) |
| 08:13:04 | JdGordon | $build_instructions is the filename of the txt file i need to blank after its been read |
| 08:13:26 | JdGordon | @instructions is the array the txt file gets read into first |
| 08:13:47 | Galois | well, fine, the perl way would be to open a write filehandle to $build_instructions |
| 08:13:52 | Galois | and write the empty string to it |
| 08:14:37 | JdGordon | bah, ok, ill do that and stop being lazy :p |
| 08:14:56 | Galois | "If MODE is '>', the file is truncated and opened for output" |
| 08:15:00 | Galois | from perldoc -f open |
| 08:15:07 | Galois | so it looks like it only needs one line |
| 08:15:39 | Galois | open BUILDINFOS, '>', $build_instructions |
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| 08:16:55 | JdGordon | did that, gets the same problem |
| 08:17:59 | Galois | #!/usr/bin/perl |
| 08:17:59 | Galois | $build_instructions = 'test'; |
| 08:17:59 | Galois | open BUILDINFOS, '>', $build_instructions; |
| 08:18:03 | JdGordon | hmm... ok problem is elsewere |
| 08:18:05 | Galois | this file runs successfully for me |
| 08:18:29 | Galois | it blanks the contents of test |
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| 08:30:33 | pinkskin | hi |
| 08:31:50 | JdGordon | yay, i tinhk its all working again :) |
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| 08:33:17 | JdGordon | grr... it was bloody perl needing a empty line at the end of the file !!!! |
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| 08:36:56 | JdGordon | ok, we are all working great now... |
| 08:37:03 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php <- test me!!!! |
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| 08:37:09 | JdGordon | use and abuse me!!! |
| 08:37:16 | JdGordon | well. the link... |
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| 08:38:52 | earHertz | wow. my opc can run winsdows, ubuntu in a vm, ms sql server, pg sql server, my sql sql server, teh gui clients for all three, and firefox. and only open office and acrobat slow down |
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| 09:19:08 | JdGordon | grr... how do u jumpp out of an inner loop to the start of an outer loop in perl? i remener learning it but forgot! |
| 09:22:29 | JdGordon | dw, got it :) |
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| 09:44:47 | raymondjtroth | wuill rock box firmeware work |
| 09:44:51 | raymondjtroth | on ipod shuffle |
| 09:44:53 | raymondjtroth | ? |
| 09:45:55 | Bagder | no |
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| 09:46:47 | * | scorche wonders how rockbox would alter a shuffle |
| 09:48:01 | scorche | and good morning Bagder ...might wanna take away the away tag now that you have exposed yourself ;) |
| 09:48:02 | midkay | voice menus could allow playlists/navigation.. |
| 09:48:22 | scorche | midkay: yeah...but what else? |
| 09:48:34 | scorche | Doom in mud format so it can be read? =P |
| 09:48:37 | midkay | that's major in itself.. |
| 09:48:39 | midkay | haha. |
| 09:56:13 | JdGordon | ho hum |
| 09:56:42 | JdGordon | hey Bagder, wd on the e200 :) |
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| 10:04:49 | sharpe | earHertz: you around? |
| 10:05:34 | midkay | what happened to going to sleep a few hours ago, sharpe? |
| 10:05:37 | earHertz | in a sec |
| 10:06:00 | sharpe | midkay: i dunno. |
| 10:06:07 | midkay | this faker. |
| 10:06:33 | sharpe | ah, here we go, guilt is what kept me awake. |
| 10:06:50 | midkay | guilt? about what? |
| 10:07:06 | sharpe | ah, nothing. |
| 10:07:19 | scorche | midkay: you know better...'twas a sharpei joke |
| 10:07:38 | midkay | sigh, another of those.. |
| 10:08:56 | sharpe | yep. |
| 10:12:06 | sharpe | earHertz: i just thought i'd let you know, i randomly started to work on the malloc/free implementations for like, fifteen minutes and they're working now. |
| 10:12:40 | earHertz | huh |
| 10:12:54 | sharpe | the malloc stuff you helped me with works. |
| 10:14:52 | scorche | does anything that earhertz *didn't* help you with work yet? |
| 10:14:53 | scorche | =P |
| 10:15:18 | sharpe | yeah. the rest of the kernel. |
| 10:15:21 | sharpe | :) |
| 10:15:41 | midkay | as in, stuff that earHertz *did not* help you with. |
| 10:15:45 | earHertz | scorche: I gave him a few pointers and none of it original to me |
| 10:15:48 | midkay | :D |
| 10:15:58 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:15:58 | scorche | i was just thinking after writing that to you.. |
| 10:15:58 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:15:58 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK scorche |
| 10:15:58 | scorche | that you'd paste it in #rockbox. |
| 10:15:59 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:16:01 | scorche | with my name and stuff. |
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| 10:16:16 | scorche | owned... |
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| 10:19:28 | sharpe | how would that be embarassing ? |
| 10:20:09 | scorche | be like. |
| 10:20:09 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:09 | scorche | "does anything that earhertz *didn't* help you with work yet?" |
| 10:20:09 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 10:20:09 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:10 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 10:20:10 | scorche | haha. |
| 10:20:12 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:14 | scorche | i was just thinking after writing that to you.. |
| 10:20:16 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:18 | scorche | that you'd paste it in #rockbox. |
| 10:20:18 | sharpe | ah. |
| 10:20:20 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:22 | scorche | with my name and stuff. |
| 10:20:24 | scorche | «ScorchE» Blah. says: |
| 10:20:26 | scorche | well |
| 10:20:28 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:32 | scorche | and what excuse i'd use or something. |
| 10:20:34 | scorche | «ScorchE» Blah. says: |
| 10:20:36 | scorche | i was gonna do </midkay> |
| 10:20:38 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:40 | scorche | haha. |
| 10:20:42 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:44 | scorche | asshole. |
| 10:20:46 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:48 | scorche | DON'T YOU DARE SAY |
| 10:20:50 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:52 | scorche | MIDKAY TOLD ME TO |
| 10:20:54 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:20:56 | scorche | you FUCKING BITCH. |
| 10:20:58 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:02 | scorche | gah. |
| 10:21:04 | scorche | «ScorchE» Blah. says: |
| 10:21:06 | scorche | oh god...do you have any idea how much i am laughing right now? |
| 10:21:08 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:10 | scorche | i'll stab you. |
| 10:21:12 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:14 | scorche | not more than me. |
| 10:21:16 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:18 | scorche | well. watch your back or you might get a phone call in the middle of "womenz". |
| 10:21:20 | scorche | «ScorchE» Blah. says: |
| 10:21:22 | scorche | haha |
| 10:21:24 | scorche | «ScorchE» Blah. says: |
| 10:21:26 | scorche | luser |
| 10:21:28 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:31 | sharpe | pasting the whole thing isn't really neccessary... |
| 10:21:32 | scorche | and/or several IMs. |
| 10:21:34 | scorche | midkay says: |
| 10:21:36 | scorche | if i can't get it at least i can ruin it for you! |
| 10:21:38 | scorche | ugh |
| 10:21:40 | scorche | i hate /msg in xchat |
| 10:21:42 | scorche | veryy sorry >_> |
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| 10:21:46 | scorche | it is to get a whole understanding =) |
| 10:21:55 | sharpe | lol. |
| 10:21:58 | sharpe | ahh |
| 10:22:00 | sharpe | i said it. |
| 10:22:00 | scorche | but i *so* did not mean to put that in here |
| 10:22:16 | sharpe | well. now we just have to wait. |
| 10:22:20 | scorche | for? |
| 10:22:26 | sharpe | someone to complain. |
| 10:22:32 | scorche | Zagor to come yell at me for clogging up the logs? =P |
| 10:22:37 | scorche | exactly. |
| 10:23:05 | sharpe | that's what i was thinking actually. i had checked the userlist to see if he was on, when i wondered why he didn't op himself... |
| 10:23:50 | scorche | maybe they will understand that i _always_ for get that xchat handles /msg that way? |
| 10:23:58 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 10:23:58 | * | scorche puts on the bambi eyes |
| 10:24:07 | * | scorche combines for and get |
| 10:25:42 | scorche | interesting....apparently, i made logbot go to "Alert Mode level 2" with that...om..."misunderstanding" |
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| 10:29:31 | scorche | ugh...i cant believe i did that... |
| 10:29:41 | sharpe | nor can i. |
| 10:30:03 | scorche | =( |
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| 10:32:38 | earHertz | ok, any one need me? |
| 10:33:01 | scorche | put me out of my misery? |
| 10:33:40 | sharpe | earHertz: ah. any clue why i have problems with writing to virtual memory after it is mapped to a physical address? :-D |
| 10:34:09 | earHertz | what's teh probeklem/ |
| 10:35:04 | sharpe | well, when i write to a virtual address, it would seem to write correctly, as after reading the values written, they seem legitimate. but after reading the values a second time, they're not there at all. |
| 10:36:29 | earHertz | then your map has failed, ort you've overwritten the values |
| 10:36:43 | earHertz | is teh actual addres teh same on rt write, the first read, anfd teh second? |
| 10:36:54 | sharpe | yeah... |
| 10:37:04 | earHertz | you're sure/ |
| 10:37:18 | sharpe | "0xc0000000 = { 4, ffffffff }; 0xc0000000 = { -1, ffffffff }" |
| 10:37:24 | sharpe | is the two messages printed |
| 10:37:36 | earHertz | yeah, what's that mean? |
| 10:38:18 | sharpe | address of header = { length, data } |
| 10:38:53 | earHertz | oh |
| 10:39:04 | earHertz | you're overwriting length |
| 10:39:22 | earHertz | is length at teh beginnign or the end of teh mmeory you give to the caller? |
| 10:39:49 | sharpe | length isn't actually given to the caller, the address of data is... |
| 10:39:54 | earHertz | yeah, I know |
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| 10:40:10 | earHertz | but is length at an adress priortr to or after the address teh caller gets |
| 10:40:16 | sharpe | but i really don't think it's overwriting it, as the messages are printed one after another. |
| 10:40:31 | earHertz | well, -1 is ffffff |
| 10:40:43 | sharpe | the length in this case is at c0000000... |
| 10:40:59 | earHertz | and what does teh caller get? |
| 10:41:05 | sharpe | c0000004 |
| 10:41:50 | earHertz | it's not an endian issue |
| 10:41:59 | earHertz | I don't thinkl |
| 10:42:00 | sharpe | nope... |
| 10:42:07 | earHertz | can you step through in a debugger? |
| 10:42:31 | sharpe | ah. does bochs have some form of debugging? |
| 10:42:41 | earHertz | don';t do it in bochs |
| 10:43:01 | earHertz | do in in gdb under your own os |
| 10:43:46 | sharpe | don't have gdb available... actually, i think it's a mapping problem. |
| 10:44:04 | earHertz | what do you mean gdb isn't available? |
| 10:44:18 | sharpe | oh. damn. |
| 10:45:05 | sharpe | i don't have it. |
| 10:45:11 | earHertz | so, get it |
| 10:45:42 | sharpe | i will in a moment. :) |
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| 10:49:25 | DoubleThink2 | would writting something for dos be very different to writting a module for rockbox? |
| 10:49:33 | DoubleThink2 | or a plugin |
| 10:49:37 | sharpe | um... |
| 10:49:46 | sharpe | depends on how you think about it. |
| 10:50:36 | earHertz | DoubleThink2: what's teh REAL question? ;) |
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| 10:51:25 | sharpe | we've not anyone who's tried to port a dos application to rockbox yet... |
| 10:51:30 | DoubleThink2 | I was just thinking of porting something just for the hell of it to try to learn...... but... a bit clueless about coding for rockbox |
| 10:51:47 | sharpe | there is a handy plugin api... |
| 10:51:51 | earHertz | porting what? |
| 10:52:02 | DoubleThink2 | I haven't though that far ahead yet |
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| 10:52:21 | DoubleThink2 | is there documentation for the api? |
| 10:52:59 | sharpe | ah... /apps/plugin.c and /apps/plugin.h :) |
| 10:53:17 | DoubleThink2 | yeah that's what I thought it would come down to |
| 10:53:27 | DoubleThink2 | just reading the code and learning that way |
| 10:53:32 | earHertz | DoubleThink2: basically, you interact with the rest of rockbox theroough function pointers. |
| 10:53:40 | sharpe | pointers are fun! |
| 10:53:55 | DoubleThink2 | ..... that was sarcastic right? O_o |
| 10:54:29 | sharpe | depends. |
| 10:55:02 | sharpe | if you get paid to think they're fun, then no, it wasn't sarcasm. :) |
| 10:55:23 | DoubleThink2 | heh |
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| 10:56:06 | DoubleThink2 | I am not going to get paid for that.... doing an engineering degree...learning programming for the hell of it |
| 10:57:48 | sharpe | earHertz: i know what the problem is. i never mapped it correctly. |
| 10:57:48 | * | scorche hugs midkay =( |
| 10:58:00 | * | midkay stabs scorche angrily |
| 10:58:13 | * | scorche loves midkay |
| 10:58:44 | midkay | you really show it. |
| 10:59:08 | scorche | sharpei? |
| 10:59:12 | scorche | for the good ol times? |
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| 10:59:22 | earHertz | for great justice? |
| 10:59:24 | linuxstb_ | DoubleThink2: What are you planning to port? |
| 10:59:32 | sharpe | scorche: eh? |
| 10:59:35 | earHertz | sharpe: good work |
| 10:59:47 | sharpe | and i fixed it... |
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| 11:00:26 | DoubleThink2 | I don't have anything in mind... but if I did it would be something really pointless that nobody would want |
| 11:00:50 | sharpe | DoubleThink2: that's like the plugins i write! |
| 11:00:55 | sharpe | welcome to the club! |
| 11:00:59 | DoubleThink2 | lol |
| 11:01:18 | DoubleThink2 | I don't have time to do anything serious =( |
| 11:02:15 | sharpe | one of the things i've done is a port of SIDE, which i never finished. and a written-from-scratch c64 emulator... |
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| 11:03:33 | DoubleThink2 | SIDE? |
| 11:03:40 | sharpe | space invaders arcade emulator |
| 11:03:58 | sharpe | stands for space invaders didactic emulator... |
| 11:04:03 | * | earHertz makes waka-waka space invaders noises |
| 11:04:10 | DoubleThink2 | lol |
| 11:04:27 | * | earHertz destrotys tyour base |
| 11:04:41 | earHertz | Now all your base are belong to me |
| 11:05:24 | DoubleThink2 | O_o |
| 11:05:26 | DoubleThink2 | o_O |
| 11:06:22 | DoubleThink2 | is making plugins using c# realistic? |
| 11:06:41 | sharpe | nope. |
| 11:06:46 | scorche | om..not quite |
| 11:06:51 | DoubleThink2 | c++? |
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| 11:06:57 | apo` | *WB(juxtap)WB* - <juxtap> craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax |
| 11:07:09 | DoubleThink2 | heh wth? |
| 11:07:16 | juxtap | sigh |
| 11:07:20 | scorche | DoubleThink2: he has a script or soemthing |
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| 11:07:26 | scorche | and no |
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| 11:07:38 | scorche | ...interesting |
| 11:07:45 | DoubleThink2 | VB? =D |
| 11:07:50 | sharpe | however, if you say 'c' you're good. |
| 11:07:52 | DoubleThink2 | (I know) |
| 11:07:54 | scorche | maybe he has a time limit or something of the ilk |
| 11:08:14 | sharpe | actually, strangely enough, we have ported VB libraries. |
| 11:08:58 | DoubleThink2 | oh O_o |
| 11:09:11 | sharpe | and now only if you said, "really?" i could deliever the punchline. |
| 11:09:30 | DoubleThink2 | ahmmmm hang on |
| 11:09:32 | DoubleThink2 | ....... really? |
| 11:09:38 | sharpe | nope. i'm lying. |
| 11:10:05 | DoubleThink2 | lol now I am just confused |
| 11:10:08 | DoubleThink2 | but ahmm... ok |
| 11:10:29 | sharpe | we use C... and a bit of architecture specific assembly... |
| 11:10:46 | DoubleThink2 | why not C++? |
| 11:10:54 | scorche | OO |
| 11:11:21 | scorche | among other reasons =) |
| 11:12:00 | earHertz | bigotry ;) |
| 11:12:11 | sharpe | blasphemer. |
| 11:12:33 | earHertz | on a freestanding implementation, tehere's no reason C++ should be bulkier or less efiicent than C |
| 11:12:38 | DoubleThink2 | why do you make it sounds like I am clubbing baby seals? |
| 11:13:09 | earHertz | DoubleThink2: I'm saying NOT using C++ is bigotry ;() |
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| 11:13:18 | earHertz | I'm sayin git with a snmile :O) |
| 11:13:40 | earHertz | I'm a buig fan of C++, and in fact, we're moving in 3.0 in a more OO direction |
| 11:14:35 | DoubleThink2 | oh ok |
| 11:15:05 | DoubleThink2 | OO: Object oriented right? |
| 11:15:08 | sharpe | si |
| 11:15:50 | earHertz | ye |
| 11:16:25 | DoubleThink2 | hmm ok |
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| 11:27:35 | apo` | [11:07:54] <scorche> maybe he has a time limit or something of the ilk < *nods* |
| 11:27:57 | apo` | 3 hours it was, I think |
| 11:28:35 | * | scorche beams |
| 11:32:08 | DoubleThink2 | is it possible to boot into linux straight from rockbox? |
| 11:32:29 | earHertz | rb isn't linux |
| 11:32:44 | DoubleThink2 | yeah but to boot into iPL from rb.... |
| 11:32:47 | scorche | DoubleThink2: as, like a live cd? |
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| 11:32:51 | scorche | oh.. |
| 11:33:04 | scorche | both ipl's and rockbox's supports the other |
| 11:33:04 | earHertz | reboot and go to the bootloader |
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| 11:33:38 | scorche | on rockbox bl, menu is to go into apple, and play is to go into ipl |
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| 11:34:05 | DoubleThink2 | what about having that as a menu in rockbox? |
| 11:34:10 | DoubleThink2 | once rockbox is loaded |
| 11:34:14 | earHertz | fast forward goes to eniac |
| 11:34:28 | earHertz | DoubleThink2: iopods van't rolo yet |
| 11:35:08 | DoubleThink2 | 'rolo'? O_o |
| 11:35:11 | scorche | in other words, no...not yet |
| 11:36:01 | DoubleThink2 | ok =( |
| 11:36:48 | DoubleThink2 | and... when the rockbox logo comes up when it loads.... is that to load stuff in the background or just to look pretty? |
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| 11:37:04 | earHertz | dunno |
| 11:37:04 | scorche | RoLo is "the rockbox loader"...basically it allows you to load different firmware files that are on the disk |
| 11:37:18 | scorche | currently, only archos models have that ability |
| 11:37:29 | linuxstb | And cowon and iriver... |
| 11:37:32 | DoubleThink2 | oh |
| 11:37:39 | scorche | er....yeah |
| 11:37:40 | linuxstb | Basically, just the ipods don't at the moment. |
| 11:38:01 | earHertz | linuxstb: oh, I haven't seenyou since; thanks for adding my paych to cvs |
| 11:38:11 | linuxstb | Er, which one? |
| 11:38:35 | earHertz | ipod video lcd duff's device |
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| 11:39:12 | linuxstb | Have you given up on writing an asm version? |
| 11:39:15 | DoubleThink2 | hmm... rb devs seem so much more active than iPL ones |
| 11:39:24 | earHertz | linuxstb: you didn't hear? |
| 11:39:33 | earHertz | I took the hotdog asm version |
| 11:39:38 | linuxstb | I read about your benchmarks, yes. |
| 11:39:43 | earHertz | but it's quiote odd |
| 11:40:05 | scorche | ouch...the wiki is quite outdated on rolo/rombox |
| 11:40:27 | earHertz | linuxstb: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14414 |
| 11:41:18 | earHertz | essetailly, the C code is faster than the asm for large upadrtes, teh asm fastre than teh c code for small. It has to do with teh 14ms required fior tthe lcd to update |
| 11:41:19 | linuxstb | DoubleThink2: It's also that Rockbox is a single application, whereas IPL development is much more fragmented, with people doing their own things. So you may not notice every IPL related development. |
| 11:42:50 | DoubleThink2 | yeah fair enough |
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| 11:46:43 | sharpe | alright... finally sleep now. |
| 11:46:49 | sharpe | g'night everyone. |
| 11:46:54 | DoubleThink2 | 'night |
| 11:47:25 | * | dionoea wakes up |
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| 11:57:41 | DoubleThink2 | gah.... rockbox froze O_O |
| 11:59:26 | dionoea | "freeze lifted" ... |
| 11:59:29 | * | dionoea hides |
| 11:59:57 | DoubleThink2 | heh nvrm me.... |
| 12:00 |
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| 12:11:01 | apo` | DoubleThink2: Rockbox freezes all the time ~_~ |
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| 12:15:45 | DoubleThink2 | seems relatively stable though... |
| 12:19:35 | midkay | it doesn't for me.. |
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| 12:19:53 | midkay | i mean it doesn't freeze. |
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| 12:20:35 | apo` | *WB(juxtap)WB* - <juxtap> craftkid, rockbox doesn't actually work, this whole thing's a hoax |
| 12:21:00 | juxtap | apo`, is it even funny anymore? :p |
| 12:21:06 | midkay | haha. |
| 12:21:11 | midkay | who *is* apo`? |
| 12:21:22 | juxtap | shrug |
| 12:21:53 | midkay | almost seems trollish. *stares* |
| 12:21:59 | apo` | ._. |
| 12:22:01 | apo` | Sorry |
| 12:22:04 | apo` | I removed it already |
| 12:22:08 | apo` | But my client crashed |
| 12:22:36 | juxtap | k |
| 12:22:40 | midkay | what's with that autopaste quote? |
| 12:22:51 | apo` | I like it :P |
| 12:23:20 | juxtap | i'm typing with one hand so let apo` explain |
| 12:23:29 | juxtap | (another funny quote) |
| 12:23:31 | juxtap | hmmph.. |
| 12:23:35 | apo` | <_< |
| 12:23:36 | midkay | .. okay.. |
| 12:23:38 | * | apo` runs |
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| 12:27:02 | apo` | [12:21:11] <midkay> who *is* apo`? < Um... |
| 12:27:05 | apo` | A rockbox user? :P |
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| 12:28:15 | midkay | that's very clear from "it freezes all the time" and autopaste quotes each time someone joins.. :) |
| 12:28:53 | apo` | ^^ |
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| 12:29:51 | midkay | ^^ indeed. |
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| 12:32:17 | DoubleThink2 | .....does using hold while rockbox is loading clear the settings? >_< |
| 12:32:46 | midkay | yeah. :) |
| 12:32:52 | midkay | better set them all and save a config. |
| 12:33:01 | DoubleThink2 | ....that's not convinient.... that's not convinient at all |
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| 12:33:16 | midkay | no, but useful in a few cases. |
| 12:33:21 | midkay | it should be changed IMO and probably will.. |
| 12:33:39 | DoubleThink2 | oh... I had a saved cfg file =) |
| 12:33:40 | dionoea | setting hold and pressing select :) |
| 12:33:44 | midkay | or at least it should write a .cfg file before resetting so you can load it if it was accidental. |
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| 12:39:02 | DoubleThink2 | sudo ./write_loader |
| 12:39:03 | DoubleThink2 | gah |
| 12:39:19 | DoubleThink2 | my bad.... that was meant to go into terminal.... wrong window >_< |
| 12:39:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 12:40:30 | midkay | haha. |
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| 12:46:33 | qwm | yawn. |
| 12:46:36 | qwm | big fucking yawn. |
| 12:46:54 | qwm | this heat wave makes it impossible to get any reasonable sleep. |
| 12:47:13 | DoubleThink2 | heat wave? O_o |
| 12:47:22 | bluey- | sleep naked :) |
| 12:47:47 | midkay | i'm nak.. na..e..v..er mind! |
| 12:47:52 | qwm | never experienced a swedish summer this hot before, i think.. maybe 1995.. but that's ages ago. |
| 12:47:54 | DoubleThink2 | lol! |
| 12:48:00 | DoubleThink2 | what temp? |
| 12:48:08 | midkay | what a liar qwm is. |
| 12:48:13 | bluey- | i thought sweden is cold |
| 12:48:13 | qwm | over 25C outside all the fucking time. :( |
| 12:48:18 | midkay | "maybe 1995". |
| 12:48:20 | qwm | not during the summer. |
| 12:48:21 | midkay | pff. |
| 12:48:23 | DoubleThink2 | lol..... wth |
| 12:48:31 | bluey- | lol 20C |
| 12:48:36 | DoubleThink2 | You wouldn't like living in Australia then |
| 12:48:36 | apo` | lol |
| 12:48:36 | bluey- | 25 C is nothing :) |
| 12:48:45 | qwm | :P |
| 12:48:46 | midkay | oh yeah, i think the pencil was in vented in maybe.. april 7th, 1852 at 9:04am. |
| 12:48:46 | apo` | It's like 40C here |
| 12:48:48 | DoubleThink2 | lol... 25C... heat wave.... O_o |
| 12:48:52 | qwm | oh my. |
| 12:48:53 | qwm | haha. |
| 12:49:05 | qwm | according to swedish standards. |
| 12:49:08 | midkay | i haven't seen #rockbox this active since.. maybe.. 2 hours 6 minutes 25 second ago! |
| 12:49:29 | qwm | know why? because weather is interesting to talk about. ;) |
| 12:49:31 | JdGordon | ho hum |
| 12:49:42 | JdGordon | someone fix the user keyboards! mmmm broke em :D |
| 12:49:45 | midkay | i haven't been this sweaty in.. maybe 16 days 4 hours 42 minutes 59 seconds and 99 milliseconds. |
| 12:49:54 | DoubleThink2 | lol |
| 12:50:39 | midkay | i haven't heard the made-up word "AfddakDFJkjeakaFdADS" in maybe... 93 years, 8 months, 24 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes and 47 seconds. |
| 12:51:24 | qwm | hardly a word, but alright! |
| 12:51:26 | DoubleThink2 | anyway... back to whatever it is I do... |
| 12:51:31 | apo` | sadfasdf5y3m2d5h54m30sakdfhksagf |
| 12:52:04 | midkay | sad fasdf 5y 3m 2d 5h 54m 30s akdfhk sagf? no, i heard that one within the past few days. |
| 12:52:58 | apo` | Nope |
| 12:53:07 | midkay | yes. YES. i'm positive. |
| 12:53:10 | apo` | You heard sad fafdf 5y 3m 2d 5h 54m 30s akdfhk sagf |
| 12:53:34 | midkay | no. |
| 12:53:37 | midkay | -fafdf+fasdf. |
| 12:53:47 | midkay | i'm sure of it. |
| 12:55:17 | JdGordon | does anyone understand the user keyboard loading code? |
| 12:56:06 | JdGordon | who is phaedrus961 ? |
| 12:56:31 | midkay | who is this JdGordon fool. |
| 12:56:56 | JdGordon | ... |
| 12:57:01 | midkay | sorry. |
| 12:57:04 | midkay | i don't know about pfaderdrus. |
| 12:57:11 | midkay | please don't hurt me. :( |
| 12:57:12 | * | JdGordon is trying to kill bugs and all you ppl do is joke :'( |
| 12:57:24 | * | JdGordon runs away and never returns |
| 12:57:29 | midkay | take all my money if you want. |
| 12:57:33 | midkay | take my fireworks code! :'( |
| 12:57:35 | JdGordon | oh alright |
| 12:57:37 | JdGordon | ill stay |
| 12:57:38 | midkay | hey. wait. |
| 12:57:39 | midkay | never mind. |
| 12:57:41 | midkay | you were running away. |
| 12:57:43 | midkay | get back out of here. |
| 12:57:45 | JdGordon | haha |
| 12:57:57 | midkay | i'll take YOUR money, son! |
| 12:58:33 | JdGordon | midkay: did i tell u my suggestion for fireworks? |
| 12:58:50 | midkay | all the flashy stuff like smoke trails and spinning fireworks and stuff. yeah. |
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| 13:00:05 | JdGordon | and draw the launcher on the remote lcd :) |
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| 13:00:26 | midkay | .. haha. |
| 13:00:33 | midkay | i never caught that one but FORGET IT. |
| 13:00:33 | midkay | :) |
| 13:00:54 | JdGordon | hehe oh well :p |
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| 13:11:36 | JdGordon | does anyone mind if i redo the user keyboard loading coz the code makes no sense to me at all? :D |
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| 13:12:48 | DoubleThink2 | what's the diff between initialise now and update now..... and ... what do they actually do? |
| 13:14:02 | JdGordon | linuxstb: is it better to use a static array of say 512chars and messyer code, or just steal the plugin buffer and much nicer code? (this is in the core, not accessable from in a plugin) |
| 13:14:41 | linuxstb | Can't you just use 512 bytes on the stack? |
| 13:15:03 | JdGordon | i dunno, can i? |
| 13:15:18 | linuxstb | The main stack is 8KB I think, so there should be space. |
| 13:15:20 | bluebrother | DoubleThink2, initialize does a complete initialize, removing the old tagcache. Update just scans for new / changed (?) files. |
| 13:15:42 | JdGordon | what about 1kb? or is that pushing it? |
| 13:15:49 | DoubleThink2 | ah ok thanks |
| 13:16:14 | * | linuxstb thinks he has rolo working on the ipods... |
| 13:16:19 | * | freqmod thinks "remake tagcache" would be a better name than initialize |
| 13:16:20 | JdGordon | congrats |
| 13:18:24 | sharpe | linuxstb: yay? |
| 13:19:40 | midkay | sharpe: second "i'm going to bed"-but-not-really tonight, or third? |
| 13:19:55 | sharpe | twas the second one i believe. |
| 13:20:27 | midkay | ah. |
| 13:21:07 | sharpe | yeah. |
| 13:21:24 | midkay | still, one is too many! |
| 13:21:45 | sharpe | indeed. maybe i have insomnia... |
| 13:21:59 | freqmod | If I make a patch to fix a bug should I put it as a bug or a patch in the bugtracker? |
| 13:22:10 | midkay | hm.. |
| 13:22:16 | sharpe | patch. in the patch tracker. |
| 13:22:38 | midkay | on a steep hill, do telephone poles and street lights stick out from it at a 90* angle or remain straight up?! |
| 13:23:02 | freqmod | btw. can sombody confirm/reject that the down button on the keyboard is broken on cvs builds for iPod (video)? |
| 13:23:18 | midkay | the down button? |
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| 13:24:04 | freqmod | well, next, to get to the character on the next line e.g from A to H |
| 13:24:21 | midkay | on the scroll wheel? |
| 13:24:26 | freqmod | yes |
| 13:24:27 | midkay | scrolling up works and down doesn't? |
| 13:24:37 | freqmod | yes |
| 13:25:09 | midkay | hm.. |
| 13:25:21 | freqmod | i have made a patch to fix it for me... |
| 13:25:29 | midkay | there was a keyboard change in 19th july, potentially related. |
| 13:25:49 | freqmod | http://pastebin.ca/97091 |
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| 13:31:08 | freqmod | Posted bug: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5702 (forgot to edit to type: patch) |
| 13:36:02 | JdGordon | freqmod: im playing in that file now, so ill put that straight into my changes, hopefully my patch will be accepted... |
| 13:36:11 | JdGordon | just incase no1 commits that |
| 13:37:06 | JdGordon | hang on.. whats the bug? |
| 13:39:45 | freqmod | JdGordon: I can not scroll down from A to H it just changes to line_edit mode |
| 13:40:25 | freqmod | it might be that my rockbox source is edited to death (but i got a fresh keyboard.c from cvs) |
| 13:40:54 | JdGordon | hmm.... |
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| 13:41:13 | JdGordon | can u build the sim? |
| 13:41:47 | JdGordon | oh, actually dw |
| 13:41:56 | Gnelik | Bagder: hi |
| 13:41:59 | * | freqmod is doing a cvs up in a clean rockbox source and building the sim |
| 13:42:02 | JdGordon | my bad, i thought the ipod and h300 acted the same way in that screen... which they dont |
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| 13:46:40 | freqmod | same error in clean source with sim, the patch fixes it. |
| 13:46:57 | * | freqmod is afk |
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| 14:09:53 | pill | hi |
| 14:10:10 | t0mas | hi |
| 14:10:14 | pill | my ihp140 is behaving weirdly |
| 14:10:16 | pill | like |
| 14:10:21 | pill | takes ages to boot |
| 14:10:25 | pill | browse |
| 14:10:29 | pill | and play some tracks |
| 14:10:31 | | Quit bluey- ("Leaving") |
| 14:10:40 | pill | i hear weak tak tak noises when pressing my ear on it |
| 14:10:58 | pill | but i diagnosed me hd with easy recovery and all |
| 14:11:05 | pill | and it says "no failure" |
| 14:11:06 | pill | :( |
| 14:11:18 | pill | i think the hd is dying anyway |
| 14:11:23 | pill | it pisses me off |
| 14:11:55 | JdGordon | yay, this patch is gonna kick ass :D |
| 14:12:17 | pill | so now i'm about to spend some money |
| 14:12:19 | DoubleThink2 | 'night |
| 14:12:21 | pill | shall i: |
| 14:12:26 | | Part DoubleThink2 |
| 14:12:31 | pill | 1- buy a MK6006GAH |
| 14:12:36 | pill | 2- buy an ipod nano? |
| 14:12:57 | pill | anyone here using a nano? |
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| 14:13:18 | freqmod | JdGordon: What does the patch do? |
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| 14:13:50 | qwm | me! |
| 14:13:52 | JdGordon | fixes the loadable keyboards which were broken by a recent update |
| 14:13:56 | t0mas | pill: sorry, don't know those players |
| 14:14:04 | pill | okay :( |
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| 14:14:07 | t0mas | or eh... do know, but don't have one |
| 14:14:15 | qwm | pill: i use the nano editor! |
| 14:16:32 | dionoea | "loadable keyboards", what are those ? |
| 14:16:47 | _FireFly_ | qwm: nano editor != ipod nano ;) |
| 14:16:55 | JdGordon | different virtual keyboard layouts |
| 14:18:02 | dionoea | neat :) |
| 14:18:06 | dionoea | is that already in CVS ? |
| 14:18:32 | qwm | finik: as a matter of fact, i use both! |
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| 14:19:43 | JdGordon | dionoea: it is, but its broken on targets with the remote |
| 14:20:11 | * | qwm took the red pill |
| 14:20:36 | dionoea | JdGordon: how do you change the layout ? is that explained in the doc ? |
| 14:21:07 | JdGordon | really badly in the wiki somewhere i tihnk |
| 14:21:30 | JdGordon | bassically u just type your layout onto a txt file and rename it something.kbd and put it in the .rockbox folder and run it |
| 14:21:31 | qwm | anyone here who eats more than one pill a day? |
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| 14:22:28 | madragonn | hi |
| 14:22:53 | dionoea | JdGordon: what encoding should the text be in ? UTF-8 ? |
| 14:22:58 | dionoea | or does it guess it ? |
| 14:23:04 | JdGordon | utf-8 is good |
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| 14:23:12 | qwm | surely, you'd take a C vitamin pill if you had a vitamin C deficiency? |
| 14:24:28 | freqmod | JdGordon: how do you change layouts? (iPod interface) |
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| 14:24:40 | JdGordon | same way, make the file and run it |
| 14:24:43 | qwm | anyone who has been to # . |
| 14:24:43 | qwm | # British slang for an Ecstasy pill, and American slang for recreationally used prescription drugs. |
| 14:24:46 | qwm | # A disagreeable or tiresome person (E.g., He is a pill.) |
| 14:24:56 | qwm | fuck. that pretty much ruined it. |
| 14:25:08 | qwm | i'm such a bad selecter. |
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| 14:25:22 | dionoea | JdGordon: how to you tell it to start a new line on the keyboard ? \n doesn't seem to work |
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| 14:25:42 | JdGordon | dionoea: ye, you need to fill it with spaces |
| 14:25:47 | qwm | sometimes you just need to take the pill, though. |
| 14:25:53 | JdGordon | PITA but no other way |
| 14:25:56 | qwm | fill that cavity with a pill. |
| 14:26:00 | dionoea | JdGordon: that's kind of stupid :) i'll fix that |
| 14:26:17 | JdGordon | na, it makes everything easier in the code |
| 14:26:24 | JdGordon | which is better than making it easier for the user :) |
| 14:26:31 | JdGordon | seen as this feature is almost enever used |
| 14:26:31 | dionoea | err ... |
| 14:26:56 | dionoea | JdGordon: i'll try to make an easy fix |
| 14:27:14 | JdGordon | ha, good luck |
| 14:27:18 | JdGordon | the code is horrible :) |
| 14:27:29 | JdGordon | i mean, well.. there is an easy fix.. but its not so nic |
| 14:27:30 | JdGordon | e |
| 14:27:42 | dionoea | btw, which source file handles that loading keyboards stuff ? |
| 14:27:58 | * | qwm thinks pill may be afk |
| 14:28:20 | dionoea | recorder/keyboard.c ? |
| 14:28:25 | JdGordon | ye |
| 14:28:43 | dionoea | hehe, MORSE input :) |
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| 14:29:24 | JdGordon | dionoea: actually.. no.. there is no easy fix possible :D |
| 14:29:33 | dionoea | why ? |
| 14:30:22 | JdGordon | because the way the whole thing works... what youd need to do is get the code to fill in the spaces, except, when its loading the file you dont know how many columns there are, so u dont know how many spaces to insert |
| 14:30:46 | dionoea | you never know the number of columns ? |
| 14:31:31 | JdGordon | if its scaled to the font then no u dont, if its always the system font then you do, but you need to then keep track of how many cols u have read while reading the file |
| 14:33:41 | dionoea | JdGordon: well looking at lines 360 and down ... it looks like keeping the '\n' might be possible |
| 14:34:06 | JdGordon | by all means fiddle.. but good luck :p |
| 14:34:26 | dionoea | and it looks like it automatically falls back to FONT_SYSFIXED if FONT_UI is too large |
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| 14:36:38 | dionoea | who should i talk to before changing stuff like that ? |
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| 14:42:17 | JdGordon | dionoea: im not sure who knows the keyboard file best.. maybe look at the changes and see who commited them |
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| 14:52:50 | JdGordon | yay, people are using my build your own rockbox page :) |
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| 14:57:13 | Bagder | you should also provide a link to the build log |
| 14:57:23 | Bagder | so that you can see if a patch failed or similar |
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| 14:58:30 | dionoea | JdGordon: where is your "build your own..." page available ? |
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| 14:59:08 | JdGordon | Bagder: i will, eventually.. :p |
| 14:59:27 | JdGordon | dionoea: jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/byorb/byorb.php |
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| 15:00:15 | dionoea | looks neat :) |
| 15:00:20 | midkay | doesn't it already send out "build failed" emails? |
| 15:00:55 | Bagder | well, a build could still work even if a single patch partially fails |
| 15:01:00 | Bagder | at least in theory |
| 15:01:20 | midkay | does it already send out ones for individual failures? *dunno* |
| 15:01:23 | JdGordon | midkay: it does |
| 15:01:32 | Bagder | but now, 3-yearold party at the neighbour's! |
| 15:01:45 | midkay | Bagder's three already?! |
| 15:01:48 | midkay | :D |
| 15:01:54 | JdGordon | party been going for 3 years already?? |
| 15:01:56 | earHertz | the party's lasted three years? |
| 15:02:03 | earHertz | whaty t is it afrat house? |
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| 15:04:32 | midkay | .. what? |
| 15:04:35 | midkay | :) |
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| 15:04:48 | * | midkay buys earHertz "Typing Tutor" for his birthday. |
| 15:05:06 | muesli__ | short q..does rbx run on the ipod mini? are there more than one revision of the mini? |
| 15:05:20 | midkay | yes, yes. |
| 15:05:40 | muesli__ | its my gf mini..she will kill me if i break it :o |
| 15:06:10 | midkay | rockbox can't break it; instructions are in the manual. |
| 15:06:22 | PaulJam | thre are two: i think mini g2 has the capacity written on the back, g1 doesn't. |
| 15:06:29 | muesli__ | ok...hope its as easy as for the irivers |
| 15:06:59 | midkay | easier, maybe even.. |
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| 15:07:13 | midkay | haven't installed on an iriver, but it looks a little more complicated. |
| 15:07:51 | _FireFly_ | it is easy you have only patch the firmware with the bootloader and update the iriver with the patched firmware ;) |
| 15:08:00 | muesli__ | is dualboot still　possible? |
| 15:08:20 | _FireFly_ | muesli__: on what device ? |
| 15:08:24 | midkay | it's there by default (on iPod).. |
| 15:08:27 | muesli__ | ipod mini |
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| 15:20:47 | sidolin | hi |
| 15:21:22 | sidolin | where can i find patches like scroll margin which apply to the newest cvs? |
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| 15:21:40 | sidolin | i only find older ones which dont apply right |
| 15:23:46 | _FireFly_ | sidolin: i would say fix the patch yoursef if you can# |
| 15:24:28 | sidolin | i'll try but its not so easy for me since i only know python and a bit java and c++ |
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| 15:30:50 | * | man_in_shack waves |
| 15:31:52 | * | JdGordon aims, shoots.... misses |
| 15:31:54 | JdGordon | blast! |
| 15:32:22 | man_in_shack | was wondering if anyone knew about creative zen players |
| 15:32:33 | man_in_shack | appart from the fact that they suck ... |
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| 15:36:00 | midkay | haha. |
| 15:36:03 | midkay | like what? |
| 15:36:47 | Jungti1234 | hi |
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| 15:38:13 | man_in_shack | like the hardware in it ... if it's compatible in any way with rockbox 8) |
| 15:38:43 | man_in_shack | also if it's possible to repair a button where the little domed metal thing has been forced into the "on" position permanently :P |
| 15:39:05 | midkay | haha. |
| 15:39:09 | midkay | no idea. |
| 15:39:52 | man_in_shack | :) |
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| 15:54:02 | dionoea | JdGordon: here it goes: http://paste.videolan.org/202 |
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| 15:56:54 | chendo | does rockbox do APE? |
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| 15:57:18 | _FireFly_ | chendo: it can read APEv2 tags if you mean that |
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| 15:57:27 | _FireFly_ | at least in wavpack files |
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| 15:58:32 | elinenbe | let latest version of MediaMonkey added Rockbox specific features... nice! |
| 15:58:47 | elinenbe | http://www.mediamonkey.com/ |
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| 16:00:52 | _FireFly_ | elinenbe: which features do you mean ? |
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| 16:09:43 | dionoea | anyone here familiar with recorder/keyboard.c who can validate a patch ? |
| 16:11:17 | markun | which patch? |
| 16:11:35 | markun | are you working on it? |
| 16:12:41 | dionoea | this patch: http://paste.videolan.org/203 . what it basically does is change .kbd file loading to automatically pad lines with spaces (like what's done with the default keyboard) |
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| 16:13:20 | PaulJam | has anyone else a problem to get tagcache to work with the latest cvs changes? (i'm using a patched build, so my problems might be related to this) |
| 16:13:24 | dionoea | so that you don't have to pad with spaces yourself (which can be quite a pain if you change your font) |
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| 16:14:05 | midkay | .. the keyboard display? |
| 16:14:13 | midkay | the font is always sysfixed there, i'm pretty sure. |
| 16:14:24 | dionoea | not with custom keyboard layouts |
| 16:14:28 | midkay | no? |
| 16:14:35 | Slasheri | PaulJam: hmm, what kind of problems? |
| 16:14:58 | dionoea | if (!kbd_loaded) { param[l].curfont = FONT_SYSFIXED; ... blabla } |
| 16:14:58 | dionoea | if (!kbd_loaded) { param[l].curfont = FONT_SYSFIXED; ... blabla else |
| 16:14:59 | dionoea | param[l].curfont = FONT_UI; |
| 16:15:04 | BigMac | ok how do i move text in a wps down a line |
| 16:15:04 | dionoea | woops |
| 16:15:30 | midkay | insert a new line before it.. |
| 16:16:16 | BigMac | i have no idea what to do. just press enter |
| 16:16:30 | midkay | .. yes? |
| 16:16:35 | midkay | it's all line-based. |
| 16:16:55 | BigMac | what file do i need to edit |
| 16:17:15 | Febs | The .wps file. |
| 16:17:15 | midkay | the .wps file. |
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| 16:17:25 | Febs | :) |
| 16:17:31 | midkay | gah, beat me very slightly. :) |
| 16:18:20 | PaulJam | Slasheri: if i initialize the tagcache and restart rockbox (after the hd stops spinning) the "committig ..." splash doesn't appear and the tagcache is not ready. |
| 16:19:02 | BigMac | # disable the status bar |
| 16:19:02 | BigMac | %wd |
| 16:19:02 | BigMac | # preloading images |
| 16:19:02 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK BigMac |
| 16:19:02 | BigMac | %P|pb.bmp| |
| 16:19:02 | BigMac | # playback images |
| 16:19:03 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 16:19:03 | BigMac | %xl|a|stop.bmp|87|200| |
| 16:19:05 | BigMac | %xl|b|play.bmp|87|200| |
| 16:19:07 | BigMac | %xl|c|pause.bmp|87|200| |
| 16:19:09 | BigMac | %xl|d|next.bmp|87|200| |
| 16:19:11 | BigMac | %xl|e|prev.bmp|87|200| |
| 16:19:13 | BigMac | %xl|f|vol0.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:15 | BigMac | %xl|g|vol1.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:17 | BigMac | %xl|h|vol2.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:19 | BigMac | %xl|i|vol3.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:21 | BigMac | %xl|j|vol4.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:23 | BigMac | %xl|k|vol5.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:25 | BigMac | %xl|l|vol6.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:25 | PaulJam | BigMac: use pastebin |
| 16:19:27 | BigMac | %xl|m|vol7.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:28 | midkay | sigh. |
| 16:19:29 | BigMac | %xl|n|vol8.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:31 | BigMac | %xl|o|vol9.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:33 | BigMac | %xl|p|vol10.bmp|221|200| |
| 16:19:35 | BigMac | %xl|q|bat0.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:37 | BigMac | %xl|r|bat1.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:39 | BigMac | %xl|s|bat2.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:41 | BigMac | %xl|t|bat3.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:43 | BigMac | %xl|u|bat4.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:45 | BigMac | %xl|v|repeat.bmp|33|200| |
| 16:19:47 | BigMac | %xl|w|repeat1.bmp|33|200| |
| 16:19:49 | BigMac | %xl|x|repeatsh.bmp|33|200| |
| 16:19:51 | BigMac | %xl|y|power.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:53 | BigMac | %xl|z|charge.bmp|289|0| |
| 16:19:55 | BigMac | %xl|A|hold.bmp|242|0| |
| 16:19:55 | midkay | we don't need to see it all, but yes, that's the .wps file. just add a new line. |
| 16:19:57 | BigMac | %xl|B|shuffle.bmp|9|200| |
| 16:19:59 | BigMac | %xl|C|hdd.bmp|267|0| |
| 16:20:01 | BigMac | %xl|D|repeatab.bmp|33|200| |
| 16:20:03 | BigMac | %m|117|240|6|%al%cb d, H:Mc ;%m|117|240|6|%alBattery: %bt |
| 16:20:05 | BigMac | %?pv<%xdf|%xdg|%xdh|%xdi|%xdj|%xdk|%xdl|%xdm|%xdn|%xdo|%xdp> %?bl<%xdq|%xdr|%xds|%xdt|%xdu> |
| 16:20:07 | BigMac | %s%m|133|290|%al%?ia<%ia|%?d2<%d2|(Artist Unknown)>> |
| 16:20:09 | BigMac | %s%m|133|290|%al%?id<%id|%?d1<%d1|(Album Unknown)>> |
| 16:20:11 | BigMac | %s%m|133|290|%al%?it<%it|%fn> |
| 16:20:13 | BigMac | %m|113|290|%alTrack: %pp of %pe - %pc [%pt] |
| 16:20:15 | BigMac | %m|113|290|%alCodec: %fc (%fbkbps) |
| 16:20:17 | BigMac | # progress bar : height, left position |
| 16:20:19 | BigMac | %s%m|70|290|%alNext: %?It<%It|%Fn> |
| 16:20:21 | BigMac | %pb|9|0|320| |
| 16:20:23 | BigMac | %X|bg.bmp| |
| 16:20:25 | BigMac | %?mp<%xda|%xdb|%xdc|%xdd|%xde> |
| 16:20:27 | BigMac | %?mm<|%xdv|%xdw|%xdx|%xdD> |
| 16:20:29 | BigMac | %?mh<%xdA|> |
| 16:20:31 | BigMac | %?bp<%xdy|> |
| 16:20:33 | BigMac | %?bc<%xdz|> |
| 16:20:35 | BigMac | %?ps<%xdB|> |
| 16:20:37 | BigMac | %?lh<%xdC|> |
| 16:20:39 | BigMac | %C|7|35|[100|100|] |
| 16:20:41 | BigMac | what part do i change |
| 16:20:43 | BigMac | none of it makes any sense to me |
| 16:20:43 | dionoea | wow ... that is long |
| 16:20:45 | BigMac | pastebin? |
| 16:20:47 | BigMac | were |
| 16:20:49 | BigMac | what part |
| 16:20:51 | BigMac | PaulJam:what is paste bin? |
| 16:20:58 | Febs | BigMac, that was NOT cool. Please don't do that again. |
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| 16:21:04 | BigMac | ok |
| 16:21:09 | dionoea | pastebin.com |
| 16:21:46 | Febs | BigMac, I suggest you read the chapter in the Rockbox Manual on creating WPSes, or read the CustomWPS page on the wiki. |
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| 16:22:22 | BigMac | i read the part in the manual febs. it didn't tell me how to move the artist text down a level |
| 16:22:34 | markun | dionoea: I will look at the patch this week and junti sent me some screenshots of problems with the keyboard and korean I want to look at. |
| 16:22:46 | dionoea | korean ? |
| 16:22:54 | markun | hangul |
| 16:23:06 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 16:23:06 | * | dionoea doesn't understand |
| 16:23:07 | PaulJam | Slasheri: is it normal that when i initialize tagcache now only one .tcd file is created (tagcache_tmp.tcd)? |
| 16:23:22 | dionoea | but i'll send some screen shots |
| 16:24:09 | markun | dionoea: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/jungti_overlapping_text.bmp |
| 16:24:27 | Jungti1234 | ©÷AE¨ª |
| 16:24:35 | Febs | BigMac: the .wps displays on the screen exactly what it has in the file, UNLESS the line contains a tag telling the wps to display something else. |
| 16:24:43 | Jungti1234 | hmm |
| 16:24:43 | Slasheri | PaulJam: ah, there is a bug |
| 16:24:46 | dionoea | well i didn't change anything about the text line, only the upper part |
| 16:24:46 | Slasheri | i just found it too |
| 16:25:04 | Febs | So if you want to move something down a line, just insert a blank line in the file. |
| 16:25:06 | Febs | Like this. |
| 16:25:09 | Febs | . |
| 16:25:17 | Febs | (Without the period) |
| 16:25:19 | markun | dionoea: I'm just saying there are some problems with the keyboard and I will take a look. |
| 16:25:37 | dionoea | ok :) ... |
| 16:25:50 | Jungti1234 | it have 3~4 problems. |
| 16:26:59 | Drkepilogue | how do you display japanese character on rockbox?!? |
| 16:27:09 | BigMac | Febs:but were in the line |
| 16:27:20 | BigMac | i want to move the wps text down |
| 16:27:21 | markun | Drkepilogue: choose a font with support for japanese |
| 16:27:50 | markun | Drkepilogue: are you having problems with japanese tags in your audio files? |
| 16:28:03 | Jungti1234 | or language.. |
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| 16:28:13 | Drkepilogue | language doesnt work... |
| 16:28:16 | Jungti1234 | hehe |
| 16:28:17 | Slasheri | PaulJam: fix has been now committed |
| 16:28:17 | Drkepilogue | nothing shows up |
| 16:28:26 | Jungti1234 | choose font. |
| 16:28:32 | Jungti1234 | support japanese |
| 16:28:41 | Jungti1234 | 6+12x13, unifont |
| 16:28:49 | Jungti1234 | It support japanese |
| 16:28:59 | PaulJam | Slasheri: thanks |
| 16:29:04 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 16:29:45 | Drkepilogue | thanks dood!!!! |
| 16:30:51 | Jungti1234 | Drkepilogue: are you japanese? |
| 16:30:57 | Drkepilogue | naw |
| 16:31:03 | Jungti1234 | no? |
| 16:31:04 | Drkepilogue | but i got japanese song |
| 16:31:07 | Jungti1234 | ah.. :) |
| 16:31:08 | Drkepilogue | shows up as blocks... |
| 16:31:16 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 16:31:47 | Jungti1234 | It show up now? |
| 16:31:47 | midkay | BigMac: *anywhere* before the "wps text". |
| 16:31:58 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 16:32:00 | Drkepilogue | it works |
| 16:32:06 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 16:32:25 | markun | Drkepilogue: here some more details http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeGuide |
| 16:33:10 | Febs | BigMac, insert a blank line immediately before the line you want to move down. I literally cannot explain it any more clearly than that. |
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| 16:34:29 | Drkepilogue | kool |
| 16:34:30 | elinenbe | _FireFly_: Added iPod plug-in can create .m3u files (for use with Rockbox firmware) |
| 16:34:32 | Drkepilogue | thanks |
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| 16:38:50 | Drkepilogue | just wonderin... who are the main devs that are workin on the ipod port?! |
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| 16:45:25 | Febs | Drkepilogue: linuxstb is probably the most active on the ipod port. preglow has worked on it. dan_a has been spearheading the effort for the 3g. |
| 16:45:41 | Drkepilogue | o0o0o ic |
| 16:45:57 | Drkepilogue | do u no what is linuxstb is working on for the moment? |
| 16:46:37 | Febs | Well, he just implemented ROLO on most ipod platforms 16 minutes ago, so that would be my best guess! |
| 16:46:41 | * | linuxstb is working on lunch |
| 16:46:52 | Febs | There you have it. |
| 16:46:59 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 16:47:02 | Drkepilogue | ic ic |
| 16:47:19 | Drkepilogue | well, i meant things like acutally charing with the ac adpter |
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| 16:47:22 | Drkepilogue | and such |
| 16:47:26 | | Nick _Nilisco is now known as Nilisco (i=nilisco@nxpe.com) |
| 16:48:57 | dionoea | markun: well i fixed the other bug too |
| 16:49:22 | markun | dionoea: the korean bug? |
| 16:49:33 | dionoea | the overlapping chars bug |
| 16:50:11 | markun | He showed me 2 more bugs: jungti_no_cursor.bmp and jungti_chars_to_left.bmp |
| 16:50:40 | PaulJam | Slasheri: it works now, thanks. And i have another question/suggestion: would it be possible to split the tagnavi.config into two parts, tagnavi.config and tagnavi_user.config, that the user doesn't have to worry that an update overwrites his custom tagnavi.config |
| 16:50:58 | dionoea | markun: the second one should be fixed too i guess |
| 16:51:11 | markun | dionoea: and you can also download his korean.kbd from my server |
| 16:51:35 | dionoea | i'm not sure that it was korean related ... just that it didn't handle the font width correctly |
| 16:51:44 | Slasheri | PaulJam: ah, yes |
| 16:52:00 | Slasheri | PaulJam: i will try to that soon |
| 16:52:22 | dionoea | markun: what font should i use to get the korean chars ? |
| 16:52:29 | Jungti1234 | unifont |
| 16:52:34 | Jungti1234 | or 6+12x13 |
| 16:52:46 | dionoea | thanks |
| 16:53:28 | Drkepilogue | whats ROLO? |
| 16:53:35 | dionoea | rockbox loader |
| 16:53:51 | Drkepilogue | can you elaborate? |
| 16:53:52 | markun | dionoea: the korean input method it pretty nice, but I would like to also have support for other things like accented characters for example |
| 16:54:01 | dionoea | it allows loading firmwares in rockbox |
| 16:54:07 | markun | Drkepilogue: old info http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RoLo |
| 16:55:04 | markun | Drkepilogue: load a firmware file without rebooting |
| 16:55:15 | dionoea | markun: what font/target were you using ? unifont is too large and 6+12x13 doesn't have korean chars |
| 16:55:24 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 16:55:26 | Jungti1234 | dotum.... |
| 16:55:28 | Jungti1234 | I have only |
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| 16:56:37 | Jungti1234 | dionoea: http://www.ihuf.net/board/data/download_rockbox/dotum11.fnt |
| 16:57:25 | dionoea | thanks :) |
| 16:57:51 | dionoea | weird ... your webserver doesn't let me download with wget but firefox works fine |
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| 16:58:24 | _FireFly_ | dionoea: maybe an agent-string problem |
| 16:58:53 | Jungti1234 | hm? |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:12 | Jungti1234 | dionoea: have any problem? |
| 17:00:16 | roolku | slasheri: I have posted a few comments re tagcache on the forums http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5420.0 and was wondering if you could comment on the issues if you got some time. Cheers |
| 17:00:27 | dionoea | well it worked fine with firefox ... so it's ok |
| 17:00:37 | Jungti1234 | ok |
| 17:00:44 | Jungti1234 | I use IE |
| 17:00:51 | dionoea | how do you go on the text line using the h3x0 sim in keyboard mode ? |
| 17:01:00 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 17:01:10 | Mmmm | freqmod: Just saw your keyboard patch, seems I made a typo! :D Could you try this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5702#comment9022 |
| 17:01:12 | Jungti1234 | what's mean markun? :) help.. |
| 17:01:24 | dionoea | i just want to move the cursor :) |
| 17:01:30 | Jungti1234 | ah |
| 17:01:42 | Jungti1234 | play + >>l or play + l<< |
| 17:02:13 | dionoea | thanks :) |
| 17:03:10 | * | freqmod will try it |
| 17:03:32 | dionoea | markun: this is what it looks like now dionoea/dump%20060723-170231.png">http://people.via.ecp.fr/~dionoea/dump%20060723-170231.png |
| 17:03:46 | Mmmm | freqmod: Ecellent, I'll commit if you're happy! ;) |
| 17:04:13 | Jungti1234 | dionoea: I will check now |
| 17:04:20 | _FireFly_ | dionoea: it is a User Agent string problem with wget |
| 17:04:33 | dionoea | _FireFly_: that'd be weird |
| 17:04:50 | _FireFly_ | after setting the User Agent string i can download the font |
| 17:04:53 | _FireFly_ | with wget |
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| 17:05:51 | Jungti1234 | hmm dionoea |
| 17:06:05 | Jungti1234 | I have problem yet |
| 17:06:16 | dionoea | where ? |
| 17:06:28 | Jungti1234 | ? |
| 17:06:39 | dionoea | "I have problem yet" |
| 17:06:58 | Jungti1234 | what 'where'? |
| 17:07:09 | _FireFly_ | dionoea: also a empty agent-string works |
| 17:07:15 | dionoea | hehe :) i meant 'what problem do you have' ? |
| 17:07:16 | _FireFly_ | -U "" |
| 17:07:32 | Jungti1234 | markun said problems. |
| 17:07:40 | Jungti1234 | all I have. |
| 17:08:53 | dionoea | markun: should i commit my changes ? or would you like to check them first ? (i'm not 100% confident that i haven't broken anything) |
| 17:09:13 | dionoea | (like the remote lcd keyboard for example...) |
| 17:10:24 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 17:10:26 | Jungti1234 | very funny |
| 17:10:48 | freqmod | Mmmm:Happy :) (it works) |
| 17:10:54 | freqmod | at least in simulator |
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| 17:11:17 | Mmmm | freqmod: it should be fine then..I'll put it in, Thanks for spotting it! :) |
| 17:12:08 | Jungti1234 | markun |
| 17:12:11 | Drkepilogue | uh, linuxstb, is there any specific direction to use rolo? |
| 17:12:21 | Jungti1234 | come here |
| 17:13:23 | Jungti1234 | markun. I want more change about korean input. |
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| 17:14:43 | Drkepilogue | linuxstb, u there? |
| 17:15:06 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 17:15:14 | Drkepilogue | -_- |
| 17:15:31 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 17:15:48 | Mmmm | look at the _ |
| 17:15:54 | Mmmm | he's still here! |
| 17:16:02 | Jungti1234 | yes, yes. |
| 17:16:19 | Mmmm | slipery as an eel that linuxstb! :D |
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| 17:16:21 | Drkepilogue | >.> |
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| 17:16:30 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 17:16:34 | Drkepilogue | r u here now!? |
| 17:17:01 | linuxstb | Yes... |
| 17:17:04 | Drkepilogue | ok |
| 17:17:11 | Drkepilogue | im not sure if im doing something worng |
| 17:17:19 | Drkepilogue | but ROLO kinda dont work. |
| 17:17:51 | linuxstb | What are you doing, and what then happens? |
| 17:17:54 | Drkepilogue | im using the lastest CVS bulild, and i just extracted a experimental build |
| 17:18:10 | Drkepilogue | so i have an experimental build on a folder |
| 17:18:34 | Drkepilogue | when i try to open the .mod file for the experimental build |
| 17:18:59 | Drkepilogue | it said loadin... then executing |
| 17:19:02 | Drkepilogue | and it hang |
| 17:19:17 | Drkepilogue | HD getting warmer.. |
| 17:19:30 | linuxstb | Better reset then... |
| 17:19:34 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 17:19:45 | linuxstb | Which ipod do you have? |
| 17:19:47 | BigMac | soap: no thanks, i have no interest in making a wps. im just going to mud j blackglass. and so far it works perfect. |
| 17:19:52 | Drkepilogue | 4th gen color |
| 17:20:27 | linuxstb | Do you know if it is was sold as a Photo or a Color? |
| 17:20:31 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 17:20:32 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 17:20:34 | Drkepilogue | phto |
| 17:20:35 | Drkepilogue | 30GB |
| 17:21:30 | linuxstb | OK, I think I know the problem - I forgot something... |
| 17:21:34 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 17:21:36 | Drkepilogue | ok |
| 17:25:18 | lodesi | hi, anyone know the format of the data to use with the rb->pcm_play_data(...) ? |
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| 17:26:15 | lodesi | it takes an (unsigned char*), so we can only feed it with 8 bit sound ? |
| 17:29:57 | linuxstb | AFAIK, it takes interleaved 16-bit stereo samples. |
| 17:31:24 | LandusMikain | Grrrr. |
| 17:31:27 | lodesi | ok, thx |
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| 17:43:30 | TucknDar | wow, just started Rockboxing some hours ago... Incredible! awesome work, whoever deserves praise! |
| 17:44:13 | Drkepilogue | yay, a person who cares! |
| 17:44:14 | Drkepilogue | =] |
| 17:45:15 | elinenbe | TucknDar: a lot of people! |
| 17:45:38 | linuxstb | TucknDar: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/docs/CREDITS |
| 17:45:49 | TucknDar | elinenbe, yes, seems like it! |
| 17:46:01 | TucknDar | linuxstb, :) |
| 17:46:58 | TucknDar | I won't paste that list in here, though... |
| 17:47:00 | Drkepilogue | linux, r u workin on fixing the ROLO thing? |
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| 17:49:56 | Jungti1234 | markun. bye |
| 17:52:43 | markun | Jungti1234: bye |
| 17:52:51 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 17:52:57 | Jungti1234 | now you answer. |
| 17:53:04 | Jungti1234 | so late.. |
| 17:53:06 | markun | Was watching a TV series :) |
| 17:53:16 | Jungti1234 | I want more change about korean input. |
| 17:53:33 | markun | What would you like to change? |
| 17:53:50 | markun | first you must learn C of course :) |
| 17:53:57 | Jungti1234 | haha.. |
| 17:54:06 | Jungti1234 | I can't input here it. |
| 17:54:08 | PaulJam | Slasheri: after having thought a little bit about the tagnavi_user.config suggestion, it would be propably better, if the tagnavi.config would be completely ignored if a tagnavi_user.config is present. |
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| 18:01:32 | CYPER^ | one question: do I have to update my firmware on every daily build and how? |
| 18:01:48 | CYPER^ | just replace the .rockbox folder? |
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| 18:02:11 | naap | hello |
| 18:02:18 | Drkepilogue | CYPER: yeah.. pretty much |
| 18:02:33 | Drkepilogue | you should update yur frim everyday |
| 18:02:41 | Drkepilogue | cuz changes are made every build |
| 18:03:02 | CYPER^ | but as I can see from the changelog there are no major changes to the actual firmware, but to some plugins that I don't use |
| 18:03:03 | Drkepilogue | for updating it... just DL the newer one, and extract to yur DAP |
| 18:03:13 | CYPER^ | like: 23 Jul 01:10Antoineuisimulator/sdl/button.c 1.11 Bind F8 key to "on" button (usefull if you don't have a numpad) |
| 18:03:18 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 18:03:20 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 18:03:21 | Drkepilogue | true |
| 18:03:28 | Drkepilogue | you dont have to |
| 18:03:37 | Drkepilogue | but generally, whenever i have free time |
| 18:03:39 | Drkepilogue | i update |
| 18:03:48 | Lear | cyper: just update when you want to. daily builds can have problems, after all. :) |
| 18:03:52 | naap | could someone assist me with my problem with my own wps file not being remembered after each reboot? |
| 18:03:53 | CYPER^ | I'll just check the changelog regularly and see if the changes are important |
| 18:04:08 | Lear | naap: put it in ./rockbox/wps. |
| 18:04:24 | naap | hmm |
| 18:06:14 | naap | thank you |
| 18:06:48 | naap | but shouldnt someone update the website as its saying its supposed to be in the /.rockbox folder? |
| 18:07:07 | Lear | it doesn't say that? (If so, where?) |
| 18:07:20 | naap | quote: |
| 18:07:22 | naap | File Location |
| 18:07:24 | naap | damn |
| 18:07:28 | naap | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS |
| 18:07:36 | naap | on file location |
| 18:08:05 | Drkepilogue | If the "played" wps file is located in the /.rockbox folder, it'll be remembered and used for subsequent restarts. Filenames in the /.rockbox folder must be no more than 24 characters long. |
| 18:08:07 | Lear | indeed, nobody has updated that bit... |
| 18:08:13 | naap | yes |
| 18:08:14 | Drkepilogue | aint that it? |
| 18:08:24 | naap | it worked like half an year las time for me :o |
| 18:08:32 | naap | half an year ago |
| 18:08:37 | naap | just been too lazy to try to fix it |
| 18:08:43 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 18:09:03 | naap | now i just snapped hehe |
| 18:09:09 | naap | to annoying |
| 18:09:12 | Drkepilogue | does anyone no if the battery life for the ipod improve if i use FLAC instead of mp3? |
| 18:09:26 | Galois | depends on which ipod |
| 18:09:45 | freqmod | and if the use of flac makes the disk spin more |
| 18:10:34 | Drkepilogue | im using 4g ipod photo |
| 18:10:49 | Drkepilogue | iono if using FLAC makes it spin more.. |
| 18:12:02 | freqmod | you can look at the disk spinning icon in the status bar |
| 18:12:30 | freqmod | I don't know but flacs are usually much bigger |
| 18:12:38 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 18:12:39 | Drkepilogue | it is |
| 18:12:50 | Drkepilogue | but i heard it is easier to decode.. |
| 18:13:09 | dionoea | markun: ? |
| 18:13:11 | naap | mp3 decoding is optimized well |
| 18:13:27 | Drkepilogue | is there anyway to add my on result to the wiki for the battery benchmark? |
| 18:14:30 | Drkepilogue | mp3 decoding only gives around 5hr and 38min of playtime for me |
| 18:14:54 | Drkepilogue | if mp3 is optimized well, what else is screwin up the bat life? |
| 18:15:21 | naap | disk spinning? |
| 18:15:28 | Drkepilogue | O.o |
| 18:15:33 | Drkepilogue | buffering? |
| 18:15:37 | naap | Disk power off: yes |
| 18:16:17 | naap | load directories to ram etc |
| 18:16:22 | freqmod | I think I remember reading that the battery benchmarks on ipod don't work correctly, have you meashured the time, before it stops working? |
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| 18:16:37 | naap | otherwise it needs to spin up every time you browse |
| 18:17:07 | naap | turn off backlight :P |
| 18:17:26 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 18:17:46 | naap | dont use remote if you have one |
| 18:17:49 | Drkepilogue | how do u load stuff into ram |
| 18:17:55 | naap | umm |
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| 18:18:10 | Drkepilogue | i have about 2gb worth of song... |
| 18:18:55 | theprodukkt | hi all |
| 18:18:55 | naap | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory cache: On |
| 18:18:56 | theprodukkt | any news? |
| 18:19:34 | naap | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Poweroff : Yes |
| 18:19:38 | naap | thats how i keep it |
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| 18:20:23 | Drkepilogue | i dont have disk poweroff |
| 18:20:26 | Drkepilogue | i have disk spindown |
| 18:20:28 | naap | huh? |
| 18:20:45 | Drkepilogue | i dont have |
| 18:20:50 | Drkepilogue | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Poweroff : Yes |
| 18:20:53 | Drkepilogue | instad i have |
| 18:21:00 | Drkepilogue | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Spindown |
| 18:21:01 | naap | i have that + the 2 others totalling 3 options under "Disk" |
| 18:21:16 | Drkepilogue | 2 option for me |
| 18:21:27 | naap | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Disk Spindown: 7s |
| 18:21:33 | naap | thats mine too |
| 18:21:38 | Drkepilogue | how long bat life u get? |
| 18:21:48 | naap | dunno |
| 18:21:54 | naap | long enough :D |
| 18:22:01 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 18:22:15 | Drkepilogue | what model u have? |
| 18:22:29 | Drkepilogue | and what version buid |
| 18:22:34 | naap | iriver h120 |
| 18:22:38 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 18:22:53 | naap | my player kicks arse |
| 18:22:56 | naap | hehe |
| 18:23:06 | loco | PaulJam: regarding the tagnavi.config overwriting problem, wouldn't it make sense to not include it in the daily builds but have tagcache create it if it is not present? |
| 18:23:13 | Drkepilogue | maybe the disk poweroff is not implimented on the ipoo.. |
| 18:23:25 | naap | that might be true |
| 18:23:51 | naap | maybe itll get added to the future builds |
| 18:24:03 | Drkepilogue | lets hope |
| 18:24:18 | naap | i have no idea how much battery it is saving though |
| 18:24:31 | Drkepilogue | for powering off the disk? |
| 18:24:46 | naap | but turing the hd off sounds major so i turned it on as soon as i got rockobox :o |
| 18:24:54 | Drkepilogue | o0o |
| 18:25:03 | theprodukkt | @devs: how can intgrate strncap and strtok (they arent actually in curren rb version :/) |
| 18:25:05 | naap | and thats looooong time ago |
| 18:25:43 | naap | but well |
| 18:25:46 | Drkepilogue | how do i use the directory chache thing |
| 18:26:05 | naap | general settings -> System -> Disk -> Directory cache: On |
| 18:26:09 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 18:26:10 | naap | do you have that there? |
| 18:26:13 | Drkepilogue | said i need to reboot |
| 18:26:15 | Drkepilogue | i did |
| 18:26:18 | naap | ok |
| 18:26:20 | Drkepilogue | and... what now? |
| 18:26:21 | theprodukkt | are there any disadvantages with the dir cache? |
| 18:26:22 | naap | its in use then |
| 18:26:36 | naap | you have a bit less ram for the music |
| 18:26:43 | naap | but very little |
| 18:26:55 | Drkepilogue | what is different if i use it or not.... |
| 18:26:59 | Drkepilogue | can u elaborate? |
| 18:27:12 | naap | your disk is NOT spinning when you browse directories |
| 18:27:19 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 18:27:29 | theprodukkt | this saves batterly lifetime |
| 18:27:44 | naap | if i turn it off i can hear it spin un at the second when i start browsing |
| 18:27:52 | theprodukkt | ^^ |
| 18:27:53 | Drkepilogue | kool |
| 18:27:55 | Drkepilogue | ty |
| 18:28:00 | naap | np |
| 18:28:03 | PaulJam | loco: this would propably work too, but i could imagine that having the contents of the tagnavi.config file in the sourcecode would increase the size unnecessarily (i'm not a programmer, so i'm not sure). another thing is, that it might be good to have the default tagnavi.config present for reference. |
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| 18:28:36 | Drkepilogue | smoother GUI too |
| 18:28:36 | naap | but well, i got my prob sorted out |
| 18:28:38 | theprodukkt | do u know a site where i can get webspace with ftp access 4 free? |
| 18:28:39 | naap | take care |
| 18:28:46 | | Part naap |
| 18:28:48 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 18:29:32 | loco | PaulJam: ok, that's good points. |
| 18:30:21 | Drkepilogue | why are there soo many ppl online |
| 18:30:26 | Drkepilogue | but not active? |
| 18:31:02 | TucknDar | because it's IRC Idle Relay Chat ;p |
| 18:31:06 | loco | lol |
| 18:31:08 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
| 18:31:17 | Mmmm | they like to watch.... |
| 18:31:22 | Drkepilogue | >.> |
| 18:31:24 | Drkepilogue | porn? |
| 18:31:32 | TucknDar | hm, not sure I've got this right... withTagCache Autoupdate on and Ram on, if I change some tags while iPod (mini2g btw) is plugged into my pc, then disconnect and reboot Rockbox, shouldn't the tags then be updated? |
| 18:31:59 | TucknDar | I've also set it to auto dir cache and rebooted |
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| 18:33:23 | Slasheri | TucknDar: currently no, only new/removed files get detected |
| 18:33:59 | TucknDar | ah, ok, so I'm not going crazy. thanks |
| 18:34:17 | theprodukkt | nobody talks to me (ok its offtopic but ..) |
| 18:34:19 | Drkepilogue | hey, do anyone here have any info about the crash thats happening to the 4gens? |
| 18:34:30 | Drkepilogue | seems reallly really weird... |
| 18:35:02 | TucknDar | Slasheri: what if I update a file? as in copy'n'overwrite file1.mp3 -> file1.mp3? will that update the tags? |
| 18:35:19 | TucknDar | sorry, you said only New... |
| 18:36:01 | TucknDar | I'll have to remove them, reboot, add new, eh? |
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| 18:37:31 | Slasheri | TucknDar: no difference |
| 18:37:36 | Slasheri | yes |
| 18:37:50 | Slasheri | but that will be fixed in future |
| 18:38:46 | TucknDar | great, thanks |
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| 18:40:09 | mordov | I have problems with hang on tag uppdate and then the chache files beeing deleted when I restart the palyer... any hope of fixing that? |
| 18:40:30 | mordov | I can't use tag navi as long as it's like that... |
| 18:40:59 | Slasheri | mordov: did you try with the bleeding edge build? |
| 18:41:27 | mordov | dayli builds... |
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| 18:41:37 | mordov | it has been like this for weeks now |
| 18:42:02 | mordov | I have nevver had a funktion tagchace for mor that to till tree restarts |
| 18:42:11 | Slasheri | there was a bug that corrupts the db when removing entries |
| 18:42:18 | Slasheri | but probably it should have been fixed now |
| 18:42:24 | Slasheri | please try with the bleeding edge |
| 18:42:24 | mordov | nothing removed... |
| 18:42:45 | Slasheri | interesting.. then there is something wrong |
| 18:42:45 | mordov | I only test the tagchace a few times a week to see if it's fixed but no luck so far ;) |
| 18:43:05 | Slasheri | you should post a logfdump (needs a debug build) |
| 18:43:20 | Slasheri | that should contain necessary information to fix the problem |
| 18:43:23 | mordov | where do I do that? |
| 18:43:40 | Slasheri | what model is your player? |
| 18:43:45 | mordov | H-120 |
| 18:44:00 | mordov | with a lot of files... |
| 18:44:05 | PaulJam | mordov: i think that tagcache can't handle files thet have album art in the tags, maybe it helps if you rewrite the tags of your files and remove the covers. |
| 18:44:16 | mordov | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:44:25 | Slasheri | mordov: then you can try with this: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox-full.zip |
| 18:44:30 | Slasheri | it has debug options turned on |
| 18:44:51 | Slasheri | but do _not_ touch the plugins, especially the flash plugin as it can permanently destroy your player |
| 18:45:13 | mordov | sometimes it builds the whole chace but then if I press uppdate somtimes it hangs |
| 18:45:20 | mordov | and that is when the chache is deleted |
| 18:45:39 | mordov | ok wount do the plugins :) |
| 18:45:48 | Slasheri | mordov: then after you have built tagcache, run logfdump from the debug menu and upload /.rockbox/logf.txt |
| 18:46:02 | Slasheri | and after tagcache fails, do that again |
| 18:46:38 | Slasheri | and when it hangs, you might see some information on the remote controller display |
| 18:47:22 | | Part loco |
| 18:47:59 | mordov | ok I'll use the romote for a while :) |
| 18:48:01 | TucknDar | out of curiousity, appx how many mp3 players have the devs broken during development of Rockbox? |
| 18:48:23 | dionoea | none i think |
| 18:48:23 | mordov | I think I have to ask you agein for uppload :) |
| 18:48:40 | chendo | TucknDar, thank god for those GDB ports |
| 18:50:08 | TucknDar | chendo, sorry, dunno what GDB ports are? explain, please? |
| 18:51:38 | chendo | think some sort of debug port |
| 18:51:42 | chendo | as far as i know, anyway |
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| 18:54:04 | TucknDar | ah, ok, so the devs aren't actually testing on a bunch of players... which I suppose makes sense... duh |
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| 18:56:25 | Drkepilogue | linux |
| 18:56:32 | Drkepilogue | u still workin on the fix? |
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| 19:00:47 | Drkepilogue | <.> |
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| 19:03:41 | Drkepilogue | (> ' ')> |
| 19:03:52 | Drkepilogue | <(' ' <) |
| 19:07:22 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: I don't think the problem is what I thought it was... Does it work if you try and load the normal rockbox.ipod, instead of the experimental build? |
| 19:07:54 | Drkepilogue | the normal one, it works |
| 19:08:03 | Drkepilogue | the expermental build.. nope... |
| 19:08:20 | Drkepilogue | i can try installin the experimental build |
| 19:08:26 | Drkepilogue | as "primaryP |
| 19:08:32 | Drkepilogue | and the lastes at 2ndary... |
| 19:08:37 | Drkepilogue | and see of that work... |
| 19:09:26 | Drkepilogue | but then agian.. |
| 19:09:41 | Drkepilogue | the experimental wont have ROLO... do i cant do that.. >.> |
| 19:13:56 | Drkepilogue | linux |
| 19:14:01 | Drkepilogue | the problem is load another frimware... |
| 19:14:08 | Drkepilogue | just dled a buld yesterday |
| 19:14:15 | Drkepilogue | and same thing happened |
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| 19:21:21 | Drkepilogue | also, linux, after this, what else are you planning to work on? |
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| 19:38:22 | Drkepilogue | nite yall |
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| 21:30:07 | * | jsMikeS wonders where RaeNye has been |
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| 21:32:35 | BigMac | i just made a few wps's can i upload them onto the server or do i have to put them on my own file hosting site |
| 21:33:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Are the patches for your WPS available on the patch tracker? |
| 21:34:17 | BigMac | no its a modified version of jbuild like half of the wps's out |
| 21:37:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm thinking that if the patches aren't available in the tracker, the WPSes shouldn't be in our gallery. There are some now, but I'm going to suggest that it change to at least that minimum requirement. |
| 21:37:58 | BigMac | ok |
| 21:38:23 | BigMac | wow. do you know how hard it is to find a pro ie wallpaper |
| 21:39:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, and I probably never will |
| 21:39:55 | BigMac | im not using it. im putting it my wps pack |
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| 21:46:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | An IE wallpaper? |
| 21:47:28 | BigMac | yah |
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| 21:53:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Like, a backdrop for Rockbox? |
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| 22:06:08 | BigMac | yah |
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| 22:08:39 | CYPER^ | why I can't make Tagcache to work |
| 22:08:51 | CYPER^ | it doesn't show that screen: Artist, Song .... |
| 22:09:00 | CYPER^ | I have around 3000 songs on my ipod |
| 22:09:07 | CYPER^ | but it shows them in folders |
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| 22:12:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | CYPER^: You didn't follow all the instructions. |
| 22:13:03 | CYPER^ | ok let's see: brb 5 minutes |
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| 22:13:53 | CYPER^ | To force the database to be built, go to the main menu, then General Settings -> File View -> Force tag cache update. |
| 22:14:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's out of date. |
| 22:14:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | General Settings -> File View -> Tag Cache -> Initialize Now, if my memory serves |
| 22:14:15 | CYPER^ | then where can I see the up to date instructions? |
| 22:14:23 | CYPER^ | I did that |
| 22:14:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | And then you restarted your player? |
| 22:14:38 | CYPER^ | the hard drive started spinning for like 5 minutes |
| 22:14:41 | CYPER^ | I waited for it to stop |
| 22:14:43 | CYPER^ | then restarted |
| 22:14:47 | CYPER^ | and still the same |
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| 22:15:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did you change the file view mode from filetree to ID3 Database? |
| 22:15:11 | CYPER^ | oh shit no :) |
| 22:15:17 | CYPER^ | maybe that's the problem |
| 22:15:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's in the instructions too. :-P |
| 22:15:27 | CYPER^ | thank you man :) |
| 22:15:31 | CYPER^ | I'll try it now |
| 22:16:57 | CYPER^ | it works |
| 22:16:58 | CYPER^ | yeah |
| 22:17:01 | CYPER^ | thanks again |
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| 22:21:42 | CYPER^ | another problem: first it said: no .rockbox directory. install incomplete |
| 22:21:53 | CYPER^ | then error updating playlist control file |
| 22:22:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | But is it all working now? |
| 22:23:37 | CYPER^ | no |
| 22:23:46 | CYPER^ | when I browse the ID3 Database by Track |
| 22:23:57 | CYPER^ | it shows the second warning: error updating playlist control file |
| 22:24:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Did it show the missing .rockbox error when you booted? |
| 22:25:44 | CYPER^ | let's try |
| 22:26:18 | CYPER^ | now it shows Commiting Tagcache |
| 22:26:20 | CYPER^ | 5/13 |
| 22:26:23 | CYPER^ | 6/13 |
| 22:26:24 | CYPER^ | and so on |
| 22:26:30 | CYPER^ | ready |
| 22:26:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | And does TagCache work now? |
| 22:27:15 | CYPER^ | when I browse the tracks and select one to play it showed: searching ... 1300 found |
| 22:27:19 | CYPER^ | OFF to abort |
| 22:27:24 | CYPER^ | now 2000 found |
| 22:27:31 | CYPER^ | and still searching up to 4000 |
| 22:27:46 | CYPER^ | still searching |
| 22:27:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | How many tracks on your player? |
| 22:28:55 | CYPER^ | about 4000, but it's still searching and showing 5500 found |
| 22:29:04 | CYPER^ | that's strange |
| 22:29:08 | CYPER^ | finished |
| 22:29:14 | CYPER^ | I guess they are around 5800 |
| 22:29:32 | CYPER^ | aaaaaaaaaa shit |
| 22:29:41 | CYPER^ | on every select to play it starts to search |
| 22:29:42 | CYPER^ | now again |
| 22:29:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well it does have to file them into the playlist... |
| 22:30:22 | CYPER^ | for how long? |
| 22:30:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | However long it took |
| 22:31:34 | CYPER^ | and why when I plus it into the computer just shows the USB logo on the screen but doesn't show in my computers? |
| 22:31:38 | CYPER^ | my computer |
| 22:31:42 | CYPER^ | plug it |
| 22:32:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | 5G? |
| 22:32:40 | markun | dionoea: yes? |
| 22:33:12 | CYPER^ | 4G |
| 22:33:16 | CYPER^ | black and white |
| 22:33:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm |
| 22:33:22 | dionoea | markun: well too late, i commited :) |
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| 22:33:35 | CYPER^ | hm now after 2 minutes it showed in my computer |
| 22:33:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | CYPER^: Can you successfully boot into the Apple fw? |
| 22:33:49 | CYPER^ | I haven't tried but I believe Yes |
| 22:34:52 | CYPER^ | I have just 6.36MB free space |
| 22:34:56 | CYPER^ | is that a problem |
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| 22:35:46 | CYPER^ | aaaa again searching when I try to play a rack |
| 22:35:47 | CYPER^ | track |
| 22:35:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | I told you it'll search each time, to add the rest of the tracks into the playlist |
| 22:36:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you have dircache enabled it should take less time |
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| 22:36:38 | CYPER^ | but why from the beggining, each time 5800 tracks |
| 22:36:47 | CYPER^ | it takes 2 minutes each time |
| 22:37:03 | CYPER^ | I have enabled that options to Load to RAM |
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| 22:38:57 | CYPER^ | again and again Searching... |
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| 22:43:21 | CYPER^ | no really I don't understand that |
| 22:43:33 | CYPER^ | whenever I want to play a track it starts to search |
| 22:43:39 | CYPER^ | for 2 minutes it's searching |
| 22:43:40 | CYPER^ | for what? |
| 22:43:50 | CYPER^ | I can see all the songs in the tracks section |
| 22:43:55 | CYPER^ | why does it search them again |
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| 22:48:25 | markun | CYPER^: maybe a reboot helps |
| 22:48:33 | lodesi | would someone be kind enough, to tell me how to use iram inside of a plugin ? :) |
| 22:49:15 | CYPER^ | markun I rebooted it a couple of times |
| 22:49:37 | CYPER^ | same things: click the middle button to play a song and it starts to search till 5800 songs |
| 22:50:10 | markun | CYPER^: perhaps file a detailed bug report for someone to look at |
| 22:50:43 | markun | lodesi: look at midiplay.c and mp3_encoder.c |
| 22:51:39 | lodesi | that's what i did, but the iramcopy[], iramstart[]... are little cryptic for me :'( |
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| 22:54:36 | PaulJam | CYPER^: have you rebooted after you have set tagcache to use ram? and do you have dircache enabled? |
| 22:55:07 | CYPER^ | dircached is enabled |
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| 22:55:14 | CYPER^ | and I disabled Load to RAM |
| 22:55:24 | CYPER^ | also Autoupdate is disabled |
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| 22:55:44 | PaulJam | enable the ram option, it speeds tagcache up a lot. |
| 22:55:47 | markun | lodesi: just add IBSS_ATTR at the end of the variable declarations of the things you want in IRAM and copy the code in #ifdef USE_IRAM from midiplay.c |
| 22:55:59 | CYPER^ | 6356 Songs |
| 22:56:23 | lodesi | markun: ok, i'll try this, thx |
| 22:56:46 | CYPER^ | and why there is no info how long will it take to update, when I press Update now |
| 22:56:50 | * | ender` yawns |
| 22:56:53 | CYPER^ | like showing how many songs left |
| 22:57:13 | PaulJam | maybe under info => debug => tagcache info |
| 22:57:46 | CYPER^ | Initilized: Yes |
| 22:57:52 | CYPER^ | DB Ready: Yes |
| 22:57:58 | CYPER^ | Ram Cache: No |
| 22:58:07 | CYPER^ | Ram: 0/0 B |
| 22:58:19 | CYPER^ | Progres: 0% (0 entries) |
| 22:58:24 | CYPER^ | commit step 0 |
| 22:58:32 | CYPER^ | commit delayed: No |
| 22:58:41 | CYPER^ | that's strange |
| 22:58:42 | CYPER^ | Progres: 0% (0 entries) |
| 22:58:51 | CYPER^ | I have just 6MB free space |
| 22:58:55 | CYPER^ | could that be a problem |
| 22:59:03 | CYPER^ | not enough space for building the DB |
| 22:59:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | Only if it can't create the .tcd files |
| 22:59:26 | CYPER^ | how big can they get for 6300 songs DB |
| 22:59:27 | PaulJam | maybe, i usually have 500MiB of ree space |
| 22:59:37 | dionoea | markun: btw, my fix to the "overlapping letters" problem could be improved (if you have time :) ). Each letter currently takes a fixed amount of space. For FONT_UI that's kind of stupid (and not always very readable) |
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| 23:01:38 | PaulJam | CYPER^: i don't think that the hd space is a problem, on my device wit ~2600 files the tagcache files only have a size of 370KiB. |
| 23:02:34 | CYPER^ | then can I delete all the Tagcache files, so I can start all over again with the whole process? |
| 23:02:47 | CYPER^ | which files should I delete? |
| 23:02:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | All the .tcd files |
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| 23:03:09 | CYPER^ | tagcache_idx.tcd = 348KB |
| 23:03:18 | CYPER^ | tagcache_4.tcd = 424KB |
| 23:03:28 | CYPER^ | tagcache_3.tcd = 142KB |
| 23:03:34 | CYPER^ | all the rest are small in size |
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| 23:04:38 | CYPER^ | can I delete .playlist_control |
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| 23:05:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes |
| 23:05:34 | CYPER^ | let's try again |
| 23:05:46 | CYPER^ | now I disconnect the player from the PC |
| 23:05:52 | CYPER^ | then it boots up the rockbox |
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| 23:06:03 | CYPER^ | then I go to the menu and select Initilize Now |
| 23:06:07 | PaulJam | CYPER^: and set tagcache to use ram. |
| 23:06:17 | markun | and reboot after that? |
| 23:06:17 | CYPER^ | it's set |
| 23:06:26 | CYPER^ | reboot right away? |
| 23:06:32 | CYPER^ | immediately |
| 23:06:38 | PaulJam | when the disk stops spinning |
| 23:06:42 | CYPER^ | it sais something like ..... in background |
| 23:06:50 | CYPER^ | and the disk starts spinning |
| 23:07:00 | CYPER^ | ok so after stopping stipping |
| 23:07:01 | CYPER^ | ok |
| 23:07:26 | CYPER^ | booted |
| 23:07:36 | CYPER^ | now it shows: Scanning disk |
| 23:07:40 | CYPER^ | for like 20 seconds |
| 23:08:05 | CYPER^ | ok: Initialized |
| 23:08:13 | CYPER^ | now waiting for the disk to stop spinning |
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| 23:10:20 | CYPER^ | it stopped |
| 23:10:24 | CYPER^ | too quickly :( |
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| 23:10:55 | CYPER^ | booted |
| 23:10:58 | CYPER^ | again Scanning Disk |
| 23:11:28 | CYPER^ | Commiting Tagcache 7/13 |
| 23:11:28 | CYPER^ | Previously I put ust 13 songs |
| 23:11:33 | CYPER^ | just |
| 23:11:42 | CYPER^ | I think it remembers them from before |
| 23:11:49 | CYPER^ | I'll delete the whole rockbox folder |
| 23:11:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | No, that has nothing to do with how many songs.. |
| 23:11:58 | * | Bagder announces that we are now... 54 committers |
| 23:12:20 | CYPER^ | hm then how will you explain the previously I put exactly 13 songs |
| 23:13:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: Is that up from 51, or 53? |
| 23:13:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | CYPER^: Coincidence. |
| 23:13:16 | Bagder | from 53, two more invites are still pending |
| 23:13:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which one was accepted? |
| 23:14:09 | Bagder | Raenye is in |
| 23:14:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Cool |
| 23:14:32 | * | Paul_The_Nerd goes to do the forum bit. |
| 23:15:58 | CYPER^ | hm now I played a track and the searching was exremely fast - 1 second |
| 23:16:05 | CYPER^ | let's try another song |
| 23:16:29 | CYPER^ | cool - faster searching - 2 seconds |
| 23:17:23 | CYPER^ | Another problem - On one screen there are 6300 songs, scrolling is not accelarated and will take 10 minutes to go to the bottom |
| 23:17:31 | CYPER^ | any patch about that? |
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| 23:18:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | There is a scrolling acceleration patch, yes. |
| 23:18:25 | PaulJam | CYPER^: why don't you select tracks by artist>album>track |
| 23:19:03 | CYPER^ | I'll do it that way most of the time, but it will be nice if there is scrolling accelaration |
| 23:19:13 | CYPER^ | there is a patch about that for the video ipod |
| 23:19:31 | CYPER^ | oh shit not |
| 23:19:45 | CYPER^ | in artist there are again way to many lines (artist) |
| 23:19:54 | CYPER^ | scrolling to the bottom is impossible |
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| 23:23:54 | CYPER^ | any ideas? |
| 23:25:25 | PaulJam | CYPER^: if you know how to compile, you could try this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5594 |
| 23:25:59 | CYPER^ | I have no idea how to compile :( |
| 23:26:10 | PaulJam | then you could try this: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5429.0 |
| 23:26:10 | CYPER^ | what will hapen if I install it like that on the 4G? |
| 23:26:25 | Bagder | hopefully I have daily HTML versions of the manual going tomorrow |
| 23:26:34 | Bagder | both live HTML and zip |
| 23:26:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | CYPER^: You can't use a build for a different version of iPod |
| 23:27:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bagder: That ought to be nice. |
| 23:27:39 | Bagder | example URL: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-build.html |
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| 23:32:01 | bluebrother | Bagder, great ;-) |
| 23:32:41 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Could you add a target for a single HTML file? It's hard to search the manual when it's split... |
| 23:33:18 | bluebrother | linuxstb, I'll do that. But give me some days, I'm really busy otherwise atm :( |
| 23:33:47 | linuxstb | No problem. |
| 23:34:13 | Bagder | example HTML manual in a single zip: ihttp://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5-20060723-html.zip |
| 23:34:24 | Bagder | well, except for the silly extra 'i' |
| 23:37:31 | amiconn | I don't think it's silly. The extra 'i' seems to be good for marketing ;) |
| 23:37:53 | bluebrother | ihttp? Is this a new protocol? ;-) |
| 23:38:10 | bluebrother | let's rename rockbox to iRockbox :) |
| 23:39:03 | linuxstb | Well, we do only port to players starting with "i" |
| 23:39:14 | bluebrother | iArchos? |
| 23:39:21 | bluebrother | iSansa? |
| 23:39:24 | bluebrother | hehe :) |
| 23:39:31 | amiconn | iGigabeat? |
| 23:39:39 | linuxstb | ok, ok, .... |
| 23:40:40 | dionoea | iPod and iAudio are done :) |
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| 23:45:24 | * | linuxstb looks at the list of things which don't work on the ipods and disagrees that they're done... |
| 23:46:37 | bluebrother | bye, be back another day. |
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| 23:47:04 | dan_a | Is there a TODO list for iPods anywhere? |
| 23:47:55 | juxtap | what's a good dap that has a line-in jack? |
| 23:48:00 | amiconn | Hmm, something is really wrong with tagcache |
| 23:48:06 | linuxstb | dan_a: Not really - I was just thinking the same thing. There's the IpodStatus page, but that's not been kept up to date. |
| 23:49:01 | linuxstb | juxtap: The irivers - H1x0 and H3x0, plus the old Archoses. Not sure about any others (assuming you mean a Rockbox-able player). |
| 23:49:08 | S0ap | the to-do list is recursive. First item is "Make ipod to-do list" |
| 23:49:26 | juxtap | no i mean any player |
| 23:49:50 | juxtap | btw, will rockbox eventually support most players? |
| 23:50:33 | linuxstb | In terms of numbers of sold units, the ipod port means it supports most players... |
| 23:50:50 | juxtap | i s'pose |
| 23:54:24 | dionoea | i've just registered on the wiki as AntoineCellerier. Can someone add me to the "i am not a spambot" group ? |
| 23:54:35 | Bagder | and we will always just support the players people have eager interest to get supported |
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| 23:58:07 | S0ap | what license is prefered for artwork, etc? |
| 23:58:35 | dionoea | Creative Commons i guess |
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