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| 00:07:31 | amiconn | Hmph. Why does gcc try to inline a 600byte function? |
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| 00:15:43 | barrywardell | Bagder: just tried that rockboxdev.sh patch on mac |
| 00:16:16 | barrywardell | doesn't work unfortunately. i think it's got the url wrong for the file |
| 00:17:01 | Bagder | ouch |
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| 00:17:32 | Bagder | right |
| 00:18:39 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/rockboxdev-2.patch |
| 00:24:36 | Bagder | but now, sleeeep |
| 00:25:21 | markun | good night Bagder |
| 00:25:37 | barrywardell | the patch still doesn't apply right, but it can wait till another time |
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| 00:25:49 | barrywardell | i'll try to find what's wrong. night Bagder |
| 00:27:26 | barrywardell | ah, it's looking for a gcc-3.4.4 dir but has a gcc-3.4.6 dir. maybe that's it |
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| 01:03:59 | safetydan | Hrmm... <amiconn> ..and btw, floating point is essentially banned from rockbox |
| 01:04:09 | safetydan | Looks like I'm redoing my sunangle thingy in fixed point then |
| 01:04:31 | amiconn | Well, if you absolutely need to, you can use floating point in a plugin |
| 01:05:02 | amiconn | In the core it's a no-go, and it's still *preferred* to keep floating point away from plugins too |
| 01:05:15 | amiconn | But afaik calculator uses floats |
| 01:06:47 | safetydan | Actually I was thinking of redoing it as fixed point anyway |
| 01:07:06 | safetydan | Might get a good fixed-point math library going that way |
| 01:08:36 | safetydan | Speaking of which, did you get a chance to look at my fmath library patch? |
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| 01:13:17 | amiconn | No, unfortunately |
| 01:13:38 | * | amiconn is busy with heavy asm stuff |
| 01:14:08 | safetydan | Sounds interesting and far more useful :) |
| 01:14:29 | amiconn | Speeding up the grayscale lib... |
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| 01:15:01 | amiconn | It already works on arm, but on sh there's a bug I'm failing to find :( |
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| 01:18:13 | S0ap | why is FP not allowed in the core? If I can answer my own question, I'd assume not all the DAPs can do it? The Archos targets??? |
| 01:18:33 | markun | S0ap: non of the targets have a fp unit |
| 01:18:36 | amiconn | _no_ target has floating point hardware support |
| 01:18:48 | amiconn | So fp is slow, and huge |
| 01:19:12 | S0ap | So if you write a pluggin with FP math...where does the conversion take place? |
| 01:19:26 | amiconn | No conversion takes place |
| 01:19:50 | amiconn | gcc links the plugin with the necessary software floating point routines |
| 01:20:04 | S0ap | yuck, ok. |
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| 01:34:11 | Snyper | hey dan_a: I hear you're working to get the second core up on the ipod vid? |
| 01:41:25 | Snyper | guess it was an auto rejoin... |
| 01:41:26 | Snyper | bah |
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| 01:43:59 | JulioVega | hiho |
| 01:44:32 | JulioVega | anyone here? |
| 01:44:40 | Snyper | I'm kinda here lol |
| 01:44:50 | fatherfork | I'm here |
| 01:45:33 | JulioVega | and is anyone here who knows where i can get the flash packages (i need the one for the player)? this joerg-hohensohn-website isn't working... |
| 01:45:43 | JulioVega | archos player i mean |
| 01:46:22 | JulioVega | been "off" rockbox for some time since my player was broken, maybe i missed some news... |
| 01:46:25 | Snyper | I'm no help for that...I'm working w/ the ipod vid... |
| 01:46:31 | JulioVega | hmm |
| 01:47:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | JulioVega: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox ? |
| 01:47:32 | Snyper | I haven't ever worked on any open source, or really any project with real source control....I'm sitting here trying to figure out what I have to do to make a patch for the recent feature additions I made... |
| 01:48:04 | JulioVega | Paul_The_Nerd: no, more like http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BlindFlashing point 3 |
| 01:48:17 | Snyper | I'll be glad to start my new job on wednesday at a lrge company, which will have source control :) |
| 01:48:26 | JulioVega | hehe |
| 01:48:38 | JulioVega | oops |
| 01:48:49 | JulioVega | wasn't joerg hohensohn... it was jens arnold... |
| 01:49:03 | JulioVega | anyway, the files are down |
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| 01:51:00 | JulioVega | or does at least anyone have the files so he/she can send them to me? |
| 01:51:16 | JulioVega | i need them kinda fast :/ |
| 01:52:34 | JulioVega | hey wait a sec... it seems i don't need them at all |
| 01:52:59 | JulioVega | kewl |
| 01:53:11 | fatherfork | awesome, glad I could help |
| 01:53:12 | amiconn | JulioVega: The flash packages linked from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FlashingRockbox are outdated. Bootbox is the now recommended, and only supported method. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox |
| 01:53:15 | safetydan | Snyper, dan_a is working on support for the second fore of all iPods I believe. |
| 01:53:40 | JulioVega | amiconn: just read it myself... thx anyway |
| 01:54:50 | Snyper | I didnt realize all ipods had 2 cores |
| 01:55:01 | fatherfork | niether did I |
| 01:55:11 | linuxstb | Snyper: dan_a is working on a 3g (PP5002) ipod. But the principle will be the same on the 4g and later (PP502x) ipods. |
| 01:55:12 | Snyper | hey, does anyone have a sample patch file they can send me so I know what they should look like? |
| 01:55:19 | Snyper | gotcha |
| 01:55:31 | markun | Snyper: it's in the tracker |
| 01:55:40 | Snyper | whats in the tracker? |
| 01:55:52 | markun | Snyper: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755 |
| 01:56:30 | linuxstb | Snyper: Are you working from a CVS checkout, or did you download the source? |
| 01:57:02 | Snyper | cvs checkout, I ran the command they reccomend in the docs, but that output to the console, so I wrote the output to a file, now need to break it up... |
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| 01:59:52 | linuxstb | Snyper: Do you have files containing both changes you want to include in your patch, and changes you don't want to include? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:41 | Snyper | no, I took care of that |
| 02:01:26 | linuxstb | In which case, just specify the files you've changed in the "cvs diff" command. e.g. "cvs diff -u firmware/file1.c apps/file2.c > mypatch.diff" |
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| 02:03:25 | infamis | has anybody ever went back to the original x5 iaudio firmware and it was acting crazy? |
| 02:03:50 | Snyper | ok, then one more thing then |
| 02:04:07 | Snyper | I made basically 2 changes, the driver, and the ui |
| 02:04:35 | Snyper | the UI I really don't think should be in rockbox, its pretty much a hack, and doesnt do what I wanted it to, but it does make the hardware EQ work |
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| 02:04:59 | Snyper | should I bother uploading that? |
| 02:05:04 | infamis | I just sent my x5 back for an rma (and put the original firmware back on to clear any 'evidence') however the x5 acted erratic-things happening without me pressing anything (continuously)...anyone experience that? |
| 02:05:16 | linuxstb | Snyper: Of course - otherwise no-one can test your driver changes. |
| 02:05:41 | Snyper | well, thats what I figured, so then in that case should I just include a comment about it? |
| 02:05:54 | Snyper | (in the UI portion) |
| 02:06:16 | linuxstb | Yes, just put a health warning in the patch comments - i.e. the comments about your patch, not the patch itself. |
| 02:06:41 | Snyper | oh ok, gotcha |
| 02:07:04 | linuxstb | So how does the EQ sound? |
| 02:07:06 | Snyper | like I said, the company I was working for we had no source control at all |
| 02:07:13 | Snyper | its good, I had to play alot |
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| 02:07:28 | linuxstb | Does your UI give full access to every setting? |
| 02:07:35 | Snyper | my hack was to try and pick the settings the hardware supported that were closest to what the software supported |
| 02:07:41 | Snyper | no |
| 02:07:48 | Snyper | I didn't do anything with the bandwidth setting |
| 02:07:56 | Snyper | I'm not big on the UI |
| 02:07:57 | linuxstb | What do you mean by "software supported"? |
| 02:08:43 | linuxstb | I mean you wrote the software, so you could make it match the hardware. |
| 02:08:59 | Snyper | The software supported a large number of center frequencies, with a gain from -24db to 24 db in .5 db increments. The hardware supports 4 center frequencies per band, at a gain of -12db to 12 db in 1 db increments |
| 02:09:18 | Snyper | no I hacked the software graphic eq settings to "fit" the hardware settings |
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| 02:09:43 | Snyper | the only ui change I did was to make the eq enabled go from yes/no to Softwarwe/Hardware/Disabled |
| 02:09:49 | linuxstb | OK, so by "software" you meant the existing software EQ screen. |
| 02:09:53 | Snyper | right |
| 02:10:48 | linuxstb | We discussed this a few days ago, and I think the plan is to allow a user to enable both at the same time. So there will be a software EQ settings screen, and a separate (new) hardware EQ settings screen. |
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| 02:11:31 | safetydan | linuxstb, Snyper: yeah that's what I was thinking |
| 02:11:36 | amiconn | "Too many EQs error" |
| 02:11:42 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 02:11:49 | linuxstb | At least there is no hardware bass/treble as well... |
| 02:12:25 | Snyper | yeah, but I figured dan there said he had done the existing ui, and I am not very well familier with the ui....I can learn it too for sure, but figured someone else might take a crack at it |
| 02:12:34 | Snyper | which is why I said, its not something to include with rckbox |
| 02:12:42 | Snyper | its there mostly as a test |
| 02:13:03 | linuxstb | Of course. I was just curious if it would allow full testing of the eq or not. |
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| 02:13:08 | safetydan | But it's a start and I don't have an iPod to test the hardware interface anyway so working code is better than no code |
| 02:13:21 | Snyper | no, like I said, there was nothing for the bandwidth....so I set it to wideband |
| 02:13:38 | Snyper | alright, I'll go u/l this now... |
| 02:13:45 | linuxstb | Thanks. |
| 02:14:08 | Snyper | hmmmmm http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/index.php?type=4 doesnt work :) |
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| 02:14:55 | Snyper | I take it thats not the tracker anymore? |
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| 02:15:46 | linuxstb | No - replace "bugs" with "tracker". |
| 02:16:01 | linuxstb | Where did you find that link? |
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| 02:16:10 | Snyper | on the contributing page |
| 02:16:13 | Snyper | hold on |
| 02:16:22 | Snyper | http://www.rockbox.org/bugs/index.php?type=4 |
| 02:16:24 | Snyper | arg |
| 02:16:27 | Snyper | stupid ctrl-c |
| 02:16:35 | Snyper | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html |
| 02:21:46 | amiconn | Note to self: Don't presume asm algorithms work exactly the same on different CPUs :/ |
| 02:21:56 | * | amiconn found the sh1 bug |
| 02:22:48 | linuxstb | You can sleep now then... |
| 02:23:50 | amiconn | My mask was negated... |
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| 02:25:03 | black | hi i've got a question |
| 02:25:39 | Snyper | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5791 |
| 02:25:52 | Snyper | heh |
| 02:26:16 | black | do ya know the rockbox-theme websites? |
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| 02:28:59 | Snyper | hmmmm I suppose I should have searched for an existing feature request then added the patch to that? Not sure....oh well, whats done is done |
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| 02:30:22 | safetydan | Snyper, looks good. Hopefully this weekend I'll get a chance to integrate it properly in to Rockbox. Any chance you could update your Flyspray details with your fullname? We need fullnames for the credits. |
| 02:31:02 | Snyper | sure, let me check the site....I'm browsing around on there now.... |
| 02:31:25 | safetydan | Well, I'm assuming you can change your details anyway. I may be wrong. |
| 02:31:34 | linuxstb | I'll try and test it on my 5g tomorrow. But now, time for bed. |
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| 02:32:10 | Snyper | ok, done. I figured it would ask for both there lol |
| 02:32:17 | Snyper | (err first and last) |
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| 02:54:42 | Jungti1234 | oh |
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| 02:54:43 | Jungti1234 | error |
| 02:54:45 | Jungti1234 | AppName: vlc.exe AppVer: 0.8.5.0 ModName: libvlc.dll |
| 02:54:45 | Jungti1234 | ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 000a060d |
| 02:55:22 | Jungti1234 | hm |
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| 03:05:05 | Jungti1234 | wow.. |
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| 03:12:55 | Jungti1234 | hey |
| 03:12:58 | Jungti1234 | anyone? |
| 03:13:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes? |
| 03:13:20 | Jungti1234 | video is very fast |
| 03:13:31 | Jungti1234 | 55.2 fps |
| 03:14:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | In Rockbox? |
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| 03:14:19 | Jungti1234 | ah, simulator |
| 03:14:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Remember, right now the video just plays back as fast as it can. |
| 03:14:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | It is very far from being finished. |
| 03:14:59 | Jungti1234 | ok |
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| 03:36:07 | Jungti1234 | hehehe http://jungti1234.netcci.net/rockbox/1.avi |
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| 04:29:21 | JdGordon | does anyone here use voice in the menus? |
| 04:29:28 | JdGordon | .. and can o a test for me |
| 04:30:27 | JdGordon | .. or anyone with one of the charachetr display devices? |
| 04:31:27 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 04:31:51 | Jungti1234 | I don't know how to use voice.. |
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| 04:50:55 | JdGordon | does anyone have the archos player? |
| 04:51:20 | safetydan | JdGordon, I believe Paul_the_Nerd has one |
| 04:51:32 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has an AJBRv1 |
| 04:51:43 | * | Paul_The_Nerd does not know where his cable is to attach it to a computer. |
| 04:51:45 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: thats the one with the char cell display ye? |
| 04:51:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Nope |
| 04:51:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Bitmap |
| 04:51:58 | JdGordon | oh ok |
| 04:52:06 | JdGordon | which target has char cell? |
| 04:52:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | The Player |
| 04:52:34 | JdGordon | ah, you said you have the recorder not player.. my bad |
| 04:52:51 | JdGordon | anyone want to test a patch on any taget? |
| 04:53:29 | JdGordon | ... it changes the way the settings are shown, so options like the repeat mode shows all options on the screen at once |
| 04:54:51 | JdGordon | noone?? |
| 04:54:54 | JdGordon | :'( |
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| 04:59:07 | safetydan | The simulator is probably all your likely to be able to use until amiconn is around |
| 04:59:53 | JdGordon | i can get sdl working, so im stuffed :p |
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| 05:00:49 | safetydan | What's the problem with SDL? |
| 05:01:11 | JdGordon | something about I/O permissions |
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| 05:01:36 | safetydan | What OS? |
| 05:01:44 | JdGordon | linux |
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| 05:02:09 | JdGordon | i tinhk its becuase im usning mergedFB for my dual monitors coz xinerama wont work... |
| 05:02:23 | JdGordon | i have to play next week when i can be bothered... |
| 05:03:56 | safetydan | That's entirely possible. Have you tried something like "SDL_VIDEODRIVER=x11 ./rockboxui" ? |
| 05:04:13 | JdGordon | ye, it went all retarted |
| 05:04:23 | JdGordon | full screen and blurry ... |
| 05:04:33 | JdGordon | had to manually kill it |
| 05:05:07 | safetydan | very odd |
| 05:05:57 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5795 <- woot.. new patch! |
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| 05:19:20 | jhMikeS | what else is involved in adding a new file to CVS besides what is describe in the wiki? |
| 05:19:21 | safetydan | JdGordon, patch looks okay to me, but that doesn't mean much since I haven't even compiled and tested it :) |
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| 05:24:12 | safetydan | jhMikeS, with a read-only CVS checkout, you'll need to follow the instructions here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches#Include_new_files |
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| 05:27:46 | jhMikeS | safetydan: Thanks but I got that already. I mean, will make pick it up or does it have to be explicitly added to a SOURCES list or something. |
| 05:28:24 | safetydan | You have to add it to SOURCES |
| 05:29:37 | jhMikeS | safetydan: ok. One other thing. They show "cvs diff -uN [files] > patch" but doesn't that only include the NEW files and not the newfile + changes to existing files? |
| 05:30:02 | safetydan | jhMikeS, no that includes everything, new and changed |
| 05:30:49 | jhMikeS | ok. thanks. Is there a guidline for the rockbox header in each source? I mean copyright names, etc. |
| 05:31:17 | safetydan | Just copy the convention from other files |
| 05:31:45 | safetydan | There may be more here http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html |
| 05:33:00 | jhMikeS | Well, I guess if I start the file my name goes in the copyright plus any people that it is derived from? |
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| 05:34:19 | safetydan | pretty much seems to be the convention |
| 05:34:44 | jhMikeS | thanks. I think that covers it. :) |
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| 07:57:22 | Bg3r | mornming |
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| 08:00:46 | amiconn | Chinese morning? ;) |
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| 08:11:33 | Bg3r | amiconn: :)) |
| 08:11:47 | Bg3r | sleepy fingers .. |
| 08:13:30 | Bg3r | amiconn: can i ask u something ? My h300 battery behaves really strange ... rb's bootloader shows for example 4.10V (nearly full), but i can't transfer 3GB (over USB2)... it just dies at some point and restarts (because of the USB connection). Is the battery the only thing to blame or there is other possibility too ? |
| 08:14:09 | amiconn | Bad contact somewhere, perhaps |
| 08:14:52 | Bg3r | but ... the battery goes down to 3.6-3.7V for example ... and after 2-3 hours rb's bootloader shows again more than 4V :( |
| 08:15:07 | Bg3r | i mean after 2-3 h turned off |
| 08:16:03 | amiconn | I don't know how long the battery will be able to feed the unit in USB mode |
| 08:16:07 | Bg3r | also, when i use the rb's usb mode, i see how the battery goes from half full (that is after it died for the first time in iriver fw), to empty in about 30 sec s ... |
| 08:16:18 | amiconn | We're still not charging with full power from USB |
| 08:16:45 | Bg3r | amiconn: i think a full battery should deal with 2-3h USB mode ... |
| 08:17:42 | aliask | Bg3r: Sounds like the battery could be dying |
| 08:17:53 | aliask | Mine did similar things, I replaced it and it works fine now. |
| 08:17:57 | Bg3r | it's only 1.5 year old ... |
| 08:18:02 | aliask | So was mine. |
| 08:18:26 | Bg3r | maybe the USB host's rb bug .. |
| 08:19:06 | Bg3r | the strange thing is that under normal usage i can get at least not so bad usage |
| 08:19:10 | Bg3r | hahaha |
| 08:19:17 | Bg3r | i'm really sleepy |
| 08:19:24 | aliask | Does it only happen in USB? |
| 08:19:28 | Bg3r | yep |
| 08:19:48 | aliask | Hrm, mine happened all the time - could be a different problem. |
| 08:20:04 | Bg3r | *the strange thing is that under normal usage (listening to a music under rb) i get over 10h for sure |
| 08:25:00 | Bg3r | aliask: so, what did your player do ? |
| 08:25:41 | aliask | Refused to turn on due to lack of voltage, then after 10 minutes of sitting doing nothing, would turn on and report 4.10V, and then die about 2 mins later. |
| 08:26:05 | aliask | I could get it running for perhaps 10 - 15 mins at a time if I was lucky. |
| 08:26:58 | Bg3r | huh :( |
| 08:27:23 | aliask | But now I get a good 20 hours with my 2200mah battery - and it wasn't too expensive, so I'm not too worried. |
| 08:30:11 | Bg3r | aliask: where did you buy it from ? ebay ? |
| 08:31:00 | aliask | Yeah, it was about $20 AUD |
| 08:31:19 | JdGordon | morning all, anyone got the archos player with the char cell screen? |
| 08:31:29 | Bg3r | amiconn: ?:) |
| 08:33:10 | Bg3r | aliask: 10x for the info |
| 08:34:24 | aliask | Bg3r: No worries, but I'm not sure that your problem is the same. |
| 08:34:37 | * | JdGordon would love to know how 10x is thanks.. |
| 08:35:13 | aliask | 10 = ten, ten + x... tenx... thank... tenx |
| 08:35:14 | Bg3r | JdGordon: imagination :) |
| 08:35:21 | JdGordon | haha |
| 08:36:08 | Bg3r | it's easier for non native speakers, i suppose ;) |
| 08:36:18 | aliask | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/itunes/asus-wl700ge-wifi-router-builtin-160gb-drive-itunes-and-bittorrent-193470.php <−−- pretty |
| 08:36:19 | Bagder | JdGordon: you need to add a really nice foreign accent while saying it with food in your mouth ;-) |
| 08:36:31 | JdGordon | i see :) |
| 08:37:13 | Rudy4Pez | I have food in my mouth... |
| 08:37:18 | Bg3r | :D |
| 08:37:27 | Rudy4Pez | It works. |
| 08:40:32 | JdGordon | ok, highly unlikly request but anyway... can someone with the charcell display target please try out http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5795 and let me know if i broke it? it compiles fine but i cant test becuase sdl is broken on my comp.. (no rush, sometime during the day would be great), thanks |
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| 08:50:23 | Jungti1234 | hi |
| 08:54:45 | aliask | Afternoon Jungti1234 |
| 08:58:15 | Jungti1234 | yep |
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| 08:59:57 | amiconn | JdGordon: I hope to find some time... |
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| 09:00:20 | JdGordon | amiconn: thanks, i wont be around all day, so if you dont no big deal |
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| 09:07:56 | LinusN | JdGordon: you think the action patch is ready for prime-time? |
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| 09:16:59 | JdGordon | LinusN: it needs more testing.. but sure.. anyway i gotta go, ty tomorow |
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| 09:25:17 | Bg3r | LinusN: morning;) |
| 09:25:26 | LinusN | hey ho |
| 09:25:38 | Bg3r | LinusN: any opinion about my [battery] problem ? |
| 09:25:54 | * | LinusN tries to refresh his memory |
| 09:26:13 | Bg3r | 08.13.30 # <= http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt |
| 09:26:41 | Bg3r | starts there |
| 09:26:45 | LinusN | ah ok |
| 09:26:56 | LinusN | i agree that it sounds like a dying battery |
| 09:27:33 | Bg3r | the strange thing is that when i use it only for listening to music, it's ok |
| 09:27:41 | Bg3r | haven't measured the uptime |
| 09:27:45 | LinusN | odd |
| 09:28:01 | LinusN | is it different if you use the rockbox usb mode? |
| 09:28:16 | Bg3r | hm, i'll investigate this .. |
| 09:28:28 | Bg3r | i usually use rb's usb mode.. |
| 09:28:36 | LinusN | i had a similar issue with one of my h300's |
| 09:28:50 | Bg3r | and ? |
| 09:28:57 | LinusN | a new battery solved it |
| 09:29:01 | Bg3r | aha |
| 09:29:18 | LinusN | it was fully charged, and then dead the next minute |
| 09:29:23 | Bg3r | what kind of battery? these 2200ma ? |
| 09:29:32 | LinusN | yes |
| 09:29:38 | Bg3r | did it die in USB mode ? |
| 09:30:00 | LinusN | i didn't use usb mode that much on that player |
| 09:30:10 | Bg3r | aha... strange |
| 09:30:16 | LinusN | my dev box |
| 09:30:40 | * | LinusN luuuuves 8051...not! |
| 09:30:54 | petur | wow... 8051 |
| 09:30:58 | Bg3r | it seems that my battery dies under heavy usage (like USB mode with HDD activity, watching videos in iriver fw after 5-10 min...) |
| 09:31:19 | LinusN | Bg3r: replace it |
| 09:31:20 | Bg3r | yesterday i used the iriver usb mode because i was charging the unit viq USB |
| 09:31:41 | Bg3r | *via |
| 09:31:49 | Bg3r | LinusN: k, thank you for the advice |
| 09:32:19 | Bg3r | i just wanted to get more opinions before starting to look for a new one |
| 09:33:07 | dwihno | Anyone got replacement parts for the shell of a recorder btw? |
| 09:33:14 | Jungti1234 | damn iriver |
| 09:33:38 | dwihno | the on-off button plastic broke yesterday, and I'm uncertain how well my glueing will keep it together :) |
| 09:35:26 | LinusN | dwihno: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SpareParts |
| 09:36:18 | dwihno | Ah. Thanks! |
| 09:36:57 | dwihno | a pretty small page indeed :) |
| 09:37:16 | aliask | Lucky you aren't looking for anything iriver. |
| 09:37:16 | linuxstb | Morning all. I changed the docs/CONTRIBUTING file last night (corrected the link to the patch tracker) - can someone update http://www.rockbox/org/docs/contributing.html ? |
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| 09:37:42 | * | linuxstb just notices it's done.... |
| 09:38:27 | * | amiconn wishes coldfire had more data registers... :/ |
| 09:38:57 | * | linuxstb doubts amiconn's wish will come true |
| 09:39:19 | * | dwihno finds a recorder 20 on ebay for 79e |
| 09:39:40 | dwihno | I wonder how many of the bidders wants to put rockbox on it... |
| 09:41:37 | aliask | I saw a random on the tram about a month ago with an archos with rockbox on it. |
| 09:42:44 | Hadaka | my archos finally died a few days ago :( |
| 09:43:15 | Hadaka | or, well, the disk died and when taking it apart, more solders came off than normal, so I think it is about time to declare it dead |
| 09:44:10 | aliask | My H300 is dying - the headphone jack is loose, I'm using the line out at the moment until I can be bothered getting in there with a soldering iron |
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| 09:45:35 | Jungti1234 | my h300 is crazy |
| 09:45:42 | Jungti1234 | http://cafe.naver.com/gahga/26 |
| 09:47:01 | Bg3r | Jungti1234: normal :) |
| 09:47:11 | aliask | Is that caused by rockbox? |
| 09:47:13 | Bg3r | rockbox messes the original iriver firmware's settings |
| 09:47:26 | Bg3r | Jungti1234: reset the settings |
| 09:47:30 | Bg3r | under General iirc |
| 09:47:40 | aliask | So they don't store the settings in eeprom? |
| 09:47:47 | Bg3r | i mean reset the iriver fw settings |
| 09:47:55 | Bg3r | it seems so |
| 09:48:04 | Bg3r | but it's strange that rockbox messes them |
| 09:48:21 | aliask | Oh well, it's not like I have much reason to use the OF any more anyway. |
| 09:49:17 | Bg3r | aliask: only video and USB host ... and usb charging maybe... |
| 09:50:06 | aliask | Host is all I use. I never really used video. |
| 09:50:37 | Jungti1234 | Bg3r: ah, really? |
| 09:50:42 | Jungti1234 | not good... |
| 09:50:45 | Jungti1234 | bad. |
| 09:51:33 | petur | there's been reports of users whose iriver fw refuses to boot |
| 09:51:43 | * | petur suspects corrupt eeprom too |
| 09:52:12 | Bg3r | petur: any progress with h300's eeprom driver ? |
| 09:52:13 | Jungti1234 | break? |
| 09:52:13 | amiconn | petur: Did you verify that theory, now that you can dump the eeprom? |
| 09:52:36 | petur | I've been doing some short trieals to adapt Slasheri's eeprom code for h300 but I can't seem to get it to work ok |
| 09:52:42 | * | theli_ua wonders if anyone had experience with Atalla NSPs and VISA DUKPT ..... |
| 09:52:45 | Jungti1234 | This problem happened two times. |
| 09:53:37 | amiconn | petur: It most likely colllides with thc pcf i2c |
| 09:53:54 | petur | amiconn: yes |
| 09:54:15 | amiconn | The 2 drivers should be merged into one. The question is how to name it |
| 09:54:28 | petur | if I scew up I get ghost keypress and bad battery readings |
| 09:54:49 | amiconn | In the H1x0, iriver used one i2c bus for each i2c device (strange concept of a bus btw) |
| 09:55:10 | amiconn | In the H300 this is no longer the case, but they still use more than one i2c bus |
| 09:56:11 | petur | my original eeprom driver was in the pcf driver but it was unstable too. And I deleted it (/me still slaps forehead for doing that) |
| 09:56:18 | barrywardell | is there anyone around with cvs access to have a look at this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5731 |
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| 09:57:02 | barrywardell | it should only affect the h10 target and as things are in cvs at the moment the h10 target won't even build |
| 09:57:08 | * | petur likes the first line of that FS entry |
| 09:58:07 | barrywardell | most of that patch has already been added by Bagder,but there were a couple of things to fix up |
| 09:58:32 | * | barrywardell regrets putting that first line in there now |
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| 09:59:52 | Bagder | if no one else does it, I hope to do it soon |
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| 10:03:25 | barrywardell | it would be great if you could. |
| 10:07:37 | Bg3r | applies cleanly |
| 10:08:01 | Bg3r | ok, i'll commit it |
| 10:08:28 | Bagder | note that you need to remove/add some files |
| 10:08:59 | Bg3r | ah yes |
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| 10:09:32 | Bg3r | 10x for reminding me;) |
| 10:11:02 | barrywardell | thanks Bg3r. note there's also the UI-h10.bmp there to be added too |
| 10:11:46 | Bg3r | barrywardell: where can i take it from ? |
| 10:11:48 | Jungti1234 | hahaha |
| 10:11:51 | Jungti1234 | iriver's answer |
| 10:11:55 | Jungti1234 | 'If Rockbox is convenient, use Rockbox.' |
| 10:12:06 | Bg3r | Jungti1234: WHAT ? :) |
| 10:12:09 | barrywardell | Bg3r: it's on that tracker page further up |
| 10:12:30 | barrywardell | i only attached it once because it's so big and didn't change |
| 10:12:33 | Jungti1234 | and I reported bug. |
| 10:13:08 | Jungti1234 | As was so, "If isn't uncomfortable in utilization, use just." |
| 10:13:20 | Jungti1234 | crazy iriver.. |
| 10:13:23 | Bg3r | barrywardell: yeah, i saw it |
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| 10:19:33 | Bg3r | barrywardell: hms, which files should i remove? |
| 10:21:25 | barrywardell | target/arm/iriver/h10/ata-target.h |
| 10:21:35 | barrywardell | and target/arm/iriver/h10/ata-h10.c |
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| 10:30:48 | Bg3r | hm, should i commit the x11/win32 simulator parts ... |
| 10:30:58 | Bg3r | i doubt that they still work |
| 10:31:20 | barrywardell | i haven't tested them |
| 10:31:45 | barrywardell | just sdl would probably be fine. |
| 10:32:15 | barrywardell | i only added the other two for completeness |
| 10:36:36 | Bg3r | barrywardell: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-08-11%2008:35:47.html |
| 10:37:19 | barrywardell | Bg3r: yay, thanks:) |
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| 10:37:32 | Bg3r | for nothing! |
| 10:38:57 | * | barrywardell runs cvs update |
| 10:39:23 | * | Bg3r prays for green table :D |
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| 10:42:45 | Bg3r | barrywardell: ahm... |
| 10:43:05 | Bg3r | u're using C99 vars ... |
| 10:44:20 | barrywardell | oops, sorry. in which file? |
| 10:44:47 | Bg3r | or at least here http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/bootloader/h10.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup in main() |
| 10:45:05 | Bg3r | but maybe this isn't your code |
| 10:46:28 | barrywardell | ah, yes sorry. it is partially my code and partially copied from bootloader/ipod.c |
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| 10:47:32 | barrywardell | i'll fix it up. that file doesn't really do anything yet anyway though. |
| 10:48:03 | Bg3r | yep |
| 10:48:04 | Bg3r | np |
| 10:49:38 | amiconn | There are TAB chars in it as well... |
| 10:50:12 | Bg3r | ah |
| 10:51:37 | Bg3r | amiconn: which of the files ? |
| 10:51:50 | barrywardell | sorry again |
| 10:52:07 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/bootloader/h10.c?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 10:52:36 | * | barrywardell should have read the rockbox coding guidelines better |
| 10:54:07 | barrywardell | i'll check the other files for similar mistakes |
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| 10:56:08 | midgey34 | solitaire.c has an #elif for the h10 at the end of the file that I don't think should be there (added in 1.38) |
| 10:56:48 | * | barrywardell is starting to regret asking for the patch to be submitted |
| 10:58:18 | midgey34 | and the spacing doesn't match up in the top defines if that's important to anyone |
| 10:58:37 | midgey34 | those are my little nitpicks |
| 10:58:43 | Bg3r | barrywardell: heh, this could happen to anyone .. in fact it often happens in the beginning |
| 10:59:23 | Bg3r | just don't be scared :P |
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| 11:00:02 | barrywardell | Bg3r: thanks. i'm just fixing up those files for you now |
| 11:01:15 | Bg3r | i'll fix the solitaire.c ;) |
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| 11:09:08 | Bg3r | ops |
| 11:09:26 | barrywardell | have h10.c fixed up (i hope). http://pastebin.ca/126267 |
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| 11:12:45 | Bagder | red red red |
| 11:12:48 | Bg3r | and i think i have solitaire.c fscked :D |
| 11:13:18 | Bg3r | as i thought ... |
| 11:13:37 | Bunkey | any1 with ipod rockbox? |
| 11:14:54 | markun | Bunkey: having problems? |
| 11:15:06 | Bg3r | Bagder: corrected |
| 11:15:46 | barrywardell | actually, Bg3r. that updated h10.c has a few lines over 80 chars too |
| 11:15:50 | * | Bagder reminds himself that the cvs build system is way useful |
| 11:16:12 | Bunkey | ya, does it read music files from itunes update? or do i have to copy them manually? |
| 11:16:22 | Bg3r | barrywardell: ok, correct it and i'll commit |
| 11:16:34 | * | Bg3r actually hoped for a higher score ... :D |
| 11:16:39 | markun | Bunkey: it can read the itunes files with 'tagcache' |
| 11:16:51 | markun | you can also copy them manually if you don't want to use itunes anymore |
| 11:17:31 | Bunkey | cool |
| 11:17:59 | Bunkey | now i need to figure out how to install :/ |
| 11:18:03 | markun | Bunkey: did you find the manual? It also has a section about tagcache |
| 11:18:07 | * | amiconn also exceeds the 80 chars limit sometimes... |
| 11:18:11 | Bunkey | that document is so confusing |
| 11:18:22 | amiconn | When commenting inline asm, there's often no choice... |
| 11:18:23 | markun | Bunkey: you can help us make it better |
| 11:19:44 | nudelyn2 | 80 chars is a bit small these days.. do people still use original teletype terminals or something? |
| 11:19:59 | Mikachu | 80 chars is a good width |
| 11:20:03 | Bunkey | ya, i'll c what i can do......once i figure out how to install it haha |
| 11:20:10 | ze | nudelyn2: i've got 8 80x24 terms on my screen right this moment |
| 11:20:17 | Bagder | nudelyn2: we use windows you know, many windows |
| 11:20:29 | markun | Bunkey: there are some installation guides in the wiki |
| 11:20:36 | * | amiconn also thinks 80 chars is a good line length limit in general |
| 11:20:54 | * | Mikachu thinks 150 chars wide java and c++ code is not easy to read |
| 11:20:57 | markun | Bagder: some use 'screen' in a fullscreen xterm |
| 11:21:08 | nudelyn2 | i suppose that makes some sense... i write nice wide source myself... i find it makes things more readable. depends on the code ofc. |
| 11:21:25 | Mikachu | nobody sane would use a screen with many editors in it, when any decent editor supports multiple files |
| 11:21:39 | nudelyn2 | i like each line to do one thing |
| 11:22:01 | Bagder | I want to be able to have about 3 source windows next to each other |
| 11:22:12 | Bunkey | markun, is it possible to uninstall rockbox? |
| 11:22:18 | markun | Bunkey: sure |
| 11:22:32 | Bunkey | cool |
| 11:22:46 | markun | at the end of the installation instructions |
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| 11:27:51 | barrywardell | Bg3r: http://pastebin.ca/126283 |
| 11:28:03 | barrywardell | i got rid of the tabs in a couple of other files too |
| 11:30:33 | Bg3r | barrywardell: now CR/LF :) |
| 11:31:10 | * | barrywardell curses his mac |
| 11:31:21 | Bg3r | tr -d '\r' will correct this |
| 11:32:54 | Bg3r | trick (C) Bagder |
| 11:35:01 | amiconn | Sure the CR/LF isn't (C) pastebin? |
| 11:35:21 | Bg3r | amiconn: i've got the raw content ... |
| 11:35:26 | amiconn | ah |
| 11:35:35 | jhMikeS | amiconn: tried the assebly stuff for lcd_update and fps jumped up to 43 from 35.5 and my boost when playing my test ogg went from about 85% to 77%. That's so cool! |
| 11:37:37 | LinusN | nice! |
| 11:38:01 | LinusN | i suspect optimizing the pcf50606 driver will give some as well |
| 11:38:05 | amiconn | jhMikeS: How many isns do you need for unstuffing 2 pixels? |
| 11:38:10 | amiconn | *insns |
| 11:38:25 | amiconn | (including the write to the controller) |
| 11:39:12 | LinusN | this also shows that battery life isn't all about optimizing codecs |
| 11:39:15 | * | amiconn got some crazy coldfire stuff running :) |
| 11:39:18 | barrywardell | hmm. i have my text editor set to 'unix' new lines but it still uses CR+LF |
| 11:39:39 | Bg3r | amiconn: ?:) |
| 11:41:08 | jhMikeS | amiconn: first attempt 15 |
| 11:41:10 | amiconn | Bg3r: The faster greyscale update I am working on |
| 11:41:18 | Bg3r | ah |
| 11:41:51 | jhMikeS | with writes of course |
| 11:42:46 | jhMikeS | so I guess that's 11 just for unstuffing |
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| 11:43:41 | amiconn | 15? |
| 11:43:54 | * | amiconn is curious how that looks :) |
| 11:44:12 | LinusN | sounds like a lot for 2 pixels |
| 11:44:23 | amiconn | no |
| 11:45:15 | jhMikeS | "no" as it "It's all wrong you blithering idiot!" or "no" as in not alot? |
| 11:45:17 | amiconn | It's faster than my first attempt (with pen & paper) |
| 11:46:04 | jhMikeS | What's the best you could do all together? |
| 11:46:24 | amiconn | 18 insns for 2 pixels including writes |
| 11:48:14 | Bunkey | markun, im in gcc403 folder, and there r heaps of version, what should i get for my g4 ipod? |
| 11:48:36 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Ok you're curious? Mind if I post it? |
| 11:48:45 | * | LinusN is curious too |
| 11:48:45 | jhMikeS | right here right now? |
| 11:48:48 | Bagder | Bunkey: run the rockboxdev.sh script |
| 11:49:02 | markun | markun: do you want to compiler your own version? |
| 11:49:17 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Don't paste more than 10 lines. Freenode will ignore you until you stop again |
| 11:49:20 | Bagder | markun: talking to yourself again? ;-) |
| 11:49:23 | * | barrywardell has to go to the dentist |
| 11:49:27 | markun | damn :) |
| 11:49:35 | * | amiconn had that happen once |
| 11:49:36 | jhMikeS | I'll start at the first long (one at a time) |
| 11:49:37 | barrywardell | Bg3r: i'll update that when I get back |
| 11:49:38 | LinusN | barrywardell: have fun!!! |
| 11:49:44 | jhMikeS | swap %d1 |
| 11:49:49 | Mikachu | maybe you should use pastebin? |
| 11:49:52 | markun | Bunkey: why do you want to compile it yourself? |
| 11:49:54 | jhMikeS | move.l %d1,%d0 |
| 11:50:00 | Mikachu | it's not easy to read code on moving irc |
| 11:50:06 | Bg3r | LinusN: haha dentist fun :D |
| 11:50:06 | jhMikeS | lsr.l #8,%d0 |
| 11:50:07 | LinusN | jhMikeS: use pastebin |
| 11:50:20 | Bunkey | hmm |
| 11:50:31 | jhMikeS | don't know how to do that in windows here |
| 11:50:44 | Bagder | jhMikeS: goto http://pastebin.ca/, paste code, show url |
| 11:50:55 | markun | Bunkey: you can of course, but if it's your first time using rockbox maybe a bit too much efford |
| 11:50:56 | Bunkey | badger, where can i get rockboxdev.sh? |
| 11:51:06 | LinusN | Bunkey: it's in cvs |
| 11:51:06 | Bagder | Bunkey: in the rockbox tools dir |
| 11:51:11 | markun | Bunkey: which installation guide are you using? |
| 11:51:47 | Bunkey | this 1 http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 11:51:51 | markun | Bunkey: did you look here? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 11:52:20 | jhMikeS | what content type? |
| 11:52:23 | Bunkey | ya, then i go into ipodport page...... |
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| 11:52:45 | Bunkey | step 1 is compile bootloader.....where i stuck |
| 11:53:14 | LinusN | why do you need to compile your own? |
| 11:53:36 | Bagder | step 1 is very seldom to build a bootloader |
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| 11:53:41 | Bunkey | no idea, im following the instruction on web....lol |
| 11:53:55 | jhMikeS | should I expire it in a hour or what? |
| 11:54:02 | LinusN | jhMikeS: sounds good |
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| 11:55:05 | jhMikeS | The name/title is what exactly? |
| 11:55:23 | LinusN | anything, just a subject line |
| 11:55:33 | LinusN | i guess |
| 11:55:57 | jhMikeS | http://pastebin.ca/126311 |
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| 12:00:41 | Mikachu | 11:55:58 <jhMikeS> http://pastebin.ca/126311 |
| 12:00:50 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Looks quite interesting... |
| 12:01:23 | amiconn | I have another idea which won't save an instruction, but will save code size -> always good because cache size is limited |
| 12:01:47 | amiconn | (and if you put it in iram, iram is limited as well) |
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| 12:03:03 | jhMikeS | paste it up |
| 12:03:10 | amiconn | Yes |
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| 12:06:10 | amiconn | http://pastebin.ca/126319 |
| 12:06:18 | * | amiconn really likes eor/xor |
| 12:08:21 | LinusN | clever |
| 12:08:42 | amiconn | My new greyscale drawing uses a ton of eor/xor trcikery |
| 12:09:44 | * | jhMikeS shouldda seen that one! :) |
| 12:10:14 | amiconn | On arm, it's possible to rotate 4 8x8 bit "blocks" (stored in 8 registers) with just 48 instructions |
| 12:11:17 | amiconn | With rotate I mean the least significant bits of each of the 8 registers are put in the low byte of the first reg., the 2nd bits are put in the low byte of the second reg. etc. |
| 12:12:24 | amiconn | (in case someone remembers, it works similar to my geek bitswap, only more advanced) |
| 12:14:25 | jhMikeS | did you just modify mine or was that what you came up with? So close, they are. |
| 12:14:34 | amiconn | I did just modify |
| 12:15:00 | jhMikeS | I'm gonna test drive it |
| 12:15:19 | amiconn | I'd do one cosmetic change: switch lines 13 and 14 |
| 12:15:38 | amiconn | (saw that only after posting) |
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| 12:15:55 | amiconn | Looks nice to have the move.w evenly spaced :) |
| 12:16:58 | jhMikeS | :) Very cubist of you |
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| 12:18:53 | LinusN | it's unfortunate that they used bit 1 for decoding RS |
| 12:19:08 | LinusN | if they had used a higher bit, we could have used move.l |
| 12:19:40 | amiconn | Yeah, same mistake as iriver did |
| 12:20:03 | amiconn | We could even have used movem.l and the fast write mode :( |
| 12:20:53 | jhMikeS | you mean HWM? |
| 12:21:26 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:22:44 | jhMikeS | My understanding is that it wont work with AM=1 |
| 12:23:31 | Bunkey | how can i boot into rockbox??? i've done install on ipod |
| 12:24:09 | Mikachu | hold select+menu for 5 seconds |
| 12:24:59 | Bunkey | cool im in |
| 12:25:59 | amiconn | jhMikeS: True, but then we can't use HWM anyway |
| 12:25:59 | | Part LinusN |
| 12:26:09 | Bunkey | theres a cross infront rockbox menu? and i cant get into that...why? |
| 12:26:30 | amiconn | If we could, we could flip the framebuffer as well |
| 12:26:38 | Mikachu | it's not a menu, it's the rockbox.ipod file probably |
| 12:26:43 | amiconn | ..so that we could update with AM=0 |
| 12:27:17 | Bunkey | mikachu, i guess so, so how can i get into rockbox from here? |
| 12:27:35 | amiconn | You are in rockbox.. |
| 12:27:36 | jhMikeS | I'm don't really understand why A1 interferes with it. I thought the address of the first byte was what's on the A bus |
| 12:27:44 | jhMikeS | got another .5 fps BTW |
| 12:28:14 | Bunkey | o ok... so thats the interface :P |
| 12:29:13 | Bg3r | Bunkey: i suppose u're in filetree mode now |
| 12:29:48 | Bunkey | ya i think so |
| 12:30:20 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Switch lines 13 and 14? It's a habit from x86 assembly to prevent stalls. |
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| 12:30:45 | Mikachu | will gcc reorder asm instructions to optimize or just use them as is? |
| 12:30:46 | jhMikeS | That's not an issue with Coldfire? |
| 12:31:01 | Mikachu | and when i say gcc i mean gas or something |
| 12:31:24 | amiconn | Mikachu: It uses asm as-is |
| 12:31:47 | amiconn | jhMikeS: It shoudln't be an issue on coldfire, but I like symmetry :) |
| 12:32:15 | amiconn | Coldfire uses a write buffer; I don't know how to predict the exact timing |
| 12:33:18 | jhMikeS | I still don't know why A1 would interfere with HWM. Care to explain? Please! :) |
| 12:33:49 | amiconn | Yes. For HWM you have to keep /CS down, i.e. write in one go |
| 12:34:02 | amiconn | The only instruction which allows this is movem.l |
| 12:34:41 | amiconn | ..but movem.l increments the address while writing |
| 12:34:52 | amiconn | (otherwise it wouldn't make sense in memory) |
| 12:35:07 | jhMikeS | So why can't you write a long to bus? I thought only the first byte address was on the bus. |
| 12:35:20 | amiconn | The bus is 16bit... |
| 12:35:23 | jhMikeS | Yes |
| 12:35:44 | jhMikeS | I'm thinking burst writes when you have the bit set in the config |
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| 12:35:53 | amiconn | The lcd controller address space doesn't use bursts |
| 12:36:00 | preglow | Mikachu: gas doesn't ever do that, afaik |
| 12:36:16 | amiconn | I'm not sure whether this would even work though... |
| 12:36:28 | jhMikeS | I tried and it just froze |
| 12:36:54 | Bunkey | should i set 'load to ram' on or 'auto update'?? |
| 12:37:28 | Bagder | read the fine manual |
| 12:37:43 | Bunkey | i did |
| 12:37:55 | jhMikeS | So move.l doesn't keep CS down |
| 12:40:18 | amiconn | It does... _if_ it can burst |
| 12:41:52 | amiconn | See MCF5249UM.pdf page 129 (line write burst with one waitstate) |
| 12:42:31 | jhMikeS | you can't write 36bits in a move.l anyway. |
| 12:42:54 | jhMikeS | Never mind...I'm tired |
| 12:42:56 | amiconn | Ahem, I mean movem.l does... |
| 12:43:05 | amiconn | move.l does burst, but only 2 words |
| 12:43:20 | amiconn | For the lcd controller, you have to send multiples of 4 words |
| 12:43:33 | amiconn | (H300 too) |
| 12:43:58 | amiconn | ..but with 4 words, movem.l also doesn't burst, so you have to send 8 words |
| 12:44:37 | barrywardell | Bg3r: I can't find those CR's at all |
| 12:45:01 | Bg3r | barrywardell: i allready commited the diff |
| 12:45:18 | barrywardell | ah, ok thanks. that explains it |
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| 12:47:59 | barrywardell | Thanks again Bg3r. Hopefully my next patch will be more painless! |
| 12:48:22 | Bg3r | hehehe |
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| 12:52:47 | jhMikeS | Can't you just reconfigure temporarily and set GPIO28 to low? |
| 12:54:08 | amiconn | No. As soon as you do, the lcd controller will interpret any data on the bus until you set it high again |
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| 12:55:36 | jhMikeS | Even if control is not given up in any way...no interrupts, etc.? |
| 12:56:03 | amiconn | It might be possible when all code runs in iram while gpio28 is low, and you disable interrupts |
| 12:56:20 | amiconn | Ugly, but might even work... |
| 12:56:57 | jhMikeS | You can't do a dword with the 9-bit interface anyway. |
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| 12:57:18 | jhMikeS | But I guess that not the point. |
| 12:58:07 | jhMikeS | The literature only says data is committed to gram every four write cycles...nothing about bursting even thought they use that word. |
| 12:58:48 | jhMikeS | I guess you don't have to wait around while it writes to internal memory and that's it. |
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| 13:00:46 | amiconn | You're right... it might even be possible :) |
| 13:01:02 | amiconn | The point is that we can lower the number of waitstates with HWM=1 |
| 13:07:53 | jhMikeS | Ok, you flip the buffer now what? _All_ graphics operations have to be rotated too. |
| 13:08:00 | jhMikeS | I mean "rotate" |
| 13:08:14 | amiconn | It's flipping by the diagonal |
| 13:08:25 | amiconn | And yes, all gfx operations need to be rotated |
| 13:08:40 | jhMikeS | yes...same as 90deg |
| 13:08:46 | amiconn | no |
| 13:08:57 | amiconn | ..and for optimum performance the internal 16bit bitmap format needs to be flipped as well |
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| 13:09:09 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 13:09:26 | amiconn | That's in fact not difficult; I did this for the grayscale lib when porting it to ipod |
| 13:09:52 | * | amiconn probably wrote >90% of all lcd drawing code in rockbox :) |
| 13:10:26 | amiconn | I think it's worth to try and see whether this will work at all first |
| 13:10:43 | amiconn | If it does, then the flipping works can be done |
| 13:11:34 | amiconn | It might be however that it decreases lcd_yuv_blit() performance... |
| 13:11:59 | jhMikeS | true...can't just say to hell with that |
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| 13:13:24 | markun | btw, is this the manual you were talking about when you said "that document is so confusing" http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
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| 13:13:25 | amiconn | Well, lcd_yuv_blit() could use AM=1 and HWM=0 |
| 13:13:34 | markun | oops |
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| 13:14:32 | amiconn | lcd_update(_rect) would still profit, and video is not the main application of a dap |
| 13:14:38 | jhMikeS | If you flip on diagonal, then you have to go right to left to get 90deg |
| 13:14:59 | jhMikeS | Music videos are not? Seems like it fits to me :) |
| 13:15:15 | amiconn | A dap is primarily a dap, not a video player |
| 13:15:29 | Bagder | jhMikeS: noooo, we're too old for music videos ;-) |
| 13:15:47 | amiconn | ..but as I said, the lcd_yuv_blit() performance problem can be solved relatively easy |
| 13:16:03 | amiconn | Just that it can't use HWM |
| 13:16:19 | jhMikeS | It's not a doom machine either but that damn solitaire was addicting while in Puerto Rico. It also was used for unloading my camera since I had no comp |
| 13:16:22 | amiconn | So we would have lcd_yuv_blit() like now, and lcd_update faster |
| 13:16:53 | * | amiconn thinks that's a good deal... if it works |
| 13:17:28 | jhMikeS | I tried switching HWM on/off and it seemed to stick on and misbehave afterward. I'm not sure what was going on though. |
| 13:18:12 | amiconn | According to the datasheet you need to set the gram address after switching, and you have to obey the multiple-of-4 rule |
| 13:18:42 | jhMikeS | Where does it say explicitly that in the HD66773R doc that you have to keep CS low? or is that implied in the timing diagram. I'm new to reading that stuff. |
| 13:19:12 | jhMikeS | It says it inserts dummy writes if the address window is not aligned. |
| 13:20:29 | jhMikeS | You do set the address on x4 and it's makes up the misalignment with 1,2 or 3 dummy writes. |
| 13:20:46 | amiconn | _you_ have to provide the dummy data |
| 13:21:04 | jhMikeS | # = (Address - window x address) |
| 13:21:10 | jhMikeS | huh? |
| 13:21:12 | amiconn | And it doesn't say you have to keep CS low |
| 13:21:27 | jhMikeS | You were saying that earlier |
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| 13:22:40 | amiconn | Yes, I thought that was a requirement |
| 13:22:58 | amiconn | ..but it doesn't seem to be |
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| 13:25:06 | jhMikeS | It talks about dummy write but if you have to do it...I stared at it awhile and could not find and explicit procedure |
| 13:25:21 | amiconn | Yeah, it's ambiguous |
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| 13:27:43 | jhMikeS | Written in splendid Engrish. Philips docs are much clearer. |
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| 13:31:54 | Bagder | argh how I don't like debugging serial drivers with only the same serial connnection |
| 13:32:34 | jhMikeS | I'm also wondering about using the write masking for osd. Mask the VUY blit and then use the screenbuffer for the osd which only needs to be redrawn when it changes. Need 2560 bytes. |
| 13:33:50 | * | jhMikeS 's puts the cart before the horse quite often |
| 13:34:40 | * | amiconn doesn't understand |
| 13:35:39 | jhMikeS | Use the compare register for masking. It would have to be set every 16 pixels |
| 13:36:02 | amiconn | What should that be ggod for? |
| 13:36:03 | amiconn | *good |
| 13:36:26 | jhMikeS | So you can draw displays "over" the video |
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| 13:37:03 | jhMikeS | 1280 bytes for a 1-bit mask not 2560 |
| 13:39:14 | amiconn | "The write mask function is available with 8/16-bit interface modes" |
| 13:39:34 | amiconn | The X5 uses the 9.bit mode... |
| 13:39:58 | amiconn | And it would be 2560 byte for 1-bit masks |
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| 13:43:43 | jhMikeS | Somewhere I remember some qualifier being mention...could be wrong |
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| 13:45:34 | jhMikeS | It just says "available" in HWM=1 but "Available in 8/16 bit interface" when HWM=0 |
| 13:47:07 | amiconn | My quote is from page 46 |
| 13:47:26 | jhMikeS | Try 69 |
| 13:49:39 | amiconn | Odd... |
| 13:50:05 | amiconn | Page 74 again says "only 8/16-bit interface modes" |
| 13:51:46 | jhMikeS | I wonder which parts is the errata |
| 13:54:36 | jhMikeS | But if p. 69 is right, it's n/a in YUV with without HWM anyway. :) |
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| 13:59:35 | jhMikeS | It doesn't say "only", just "is available" |
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| 14:00:15 | * | jhMikeS is feeling a bit like a lawyer |
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| 14:18:17 | jhMikeS | Is the $Id in a new file updated automatically? |
| 14:19:01 | petur | yes |
| 14:19:35 | jhMikeS | Should it be $Id<blank> at first? |
| 14:19:42 | amiconn | &Id$ |
| 14:19:46 | jhMikeS | ah |
| 14:19:48 | amiconn | Sorry, $Id$ |
| 14:20:30 | jhMikeS | I called it lcd-as-x5.S. lcd-x5.S didn't seem to work right |
| 14:21:06 | amiconn | lcd-x5.S cannot work, because there's also an lcd-x5.c |
| 14:21:10 | jhMikeS | .o conflict? |
| 14:21:16 | amiconn | yes |
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| 14:23:37 | amiconn | Hrmph! |
| 14:24:40 | amiconn | Who did these in-plugin menus?? |
| 14:25:17 | amiconn | markun: Fixing warnings is good, but 0 is as wrong as is NULL |
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| 14:25:30 | markun | amiconn: what should it have been? |
| 14:25:31 | amiconn | The correct id for 'no voice clip' is -1 |
| 14:25:48 | markun | ok, I'll fix it |
| 14:25:50 | amiconn | Otherwise all these items will say the very first voice clip |
| 14:25:56 | amiconn | I'll double-check |
| 14:26:04 | markun | ok, thanks |
| 14:26:34 | amiconn | Nah, I am wrong it seems |
| 14:29:16 | amiconn | markun: I still have to check struct opt_items, but in pacbox.c you changed too much |
| 14:29:40 | amiconn | In strcut menu_item the second parameter _is_ a pointer |
| 14:29:50 | amiconn | (to a function, and NULL when unused) |
| 14:29:57 | markun | oops |
| 14:30:46 | markun | shall I fix it or do you want to do it? |
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| 14:32:21 | amiconn | Yes, and in opt_items the second parameter is the voice_id, which should be -1 for 'no voice' |
| 14:32:35 | amiconn | Please fix when possible |
| 14:33:46 | markun | if it need to be -1 after all what was "Nah, I am wrong it seems" ? |
| 14:34:06 | amiconn | I confused struct menu_item and struct opt_item |
| 14:34:23 | markun | ok |
| 14:34:25 | amiconn | Some plugin authors obviously trapped into that too |
| 14:34:34 | amiconn | See rockdoom.c ... |
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| 14:34:58 | amiconn | But I wonder what warnings your change fixed. The build table didn't show anything... |
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| 14:35:53 | markun | amiconn: it only happened during the sim build |
| 14:36:19 | amiconn | The build system does build sims as well... |
| 14:36:37 | petur | in fact, the warnings are only for sims |
| 14:37:34 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 14:37:50 | amiconn | I don't see the difference between the top two lines |
| 14:38:08 | amiconn | (except the gcc 4.1.x warnings jumping around) |
| 14:38:36 | markun | amiconn: perhaps some FreeBSD specific problem |
| 14:38:44 | markun | and I think gcc was correct to complain |
| 14:38:52 | markun | or warn at least |
| 14:39:25 | amiconn | Maybe it has to do with how NULL is defined |
| 14:39:59 | * | amiconn has a 131KB diff across just 2 source files... |
| 14:40:20 | markun | amiconn: can you double check: http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/opt_items.patch |
| 14:43:11 | jhMikeS | amiconn: You can clobber A0,A1,D0,D1 but must restore all other regs, right? |
| 14:43:38 | amiconn | right |
| 14:44:11 | markun | amiconn: shall I commit it? |
| 14:45:09 | amiconn | markun: Looks good to me |
| 14:45:40 | amiconn | In fact the only plugin which had opt_item right was viewer.c ... and now I remember that I fixed viewer.c back then |
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| 14:52:10 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i\ve updated zxbox .... http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5400 |
| 14:52:54 | amiconn | theli_ua: In case you're still considering the grayscale lib for H1x0, you'll be pleased that there will be a faster grayscale update function soon |
| 14:53:11 | amiconn | I'll just perform some speed tests |
| 14:53:22 | Mikachu | isn't miklos szeredi the fuse guy too? |
| 14:54:33 | theli_ua | amiconn, i've implemented grayscale support... it can be disabled though ... so both grayscale and 2bpp can be defined for grayscale targets |
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| 15:05:28 | theli_ua | Mikachu, i don't know ... though Miklos helped me a lot with porting :) |
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| 15:20:23 | * | theli_ua is playing Bomb Jack on his mini |
| 15:20:50 | theli_ua | :( ... if only minis have a bigger screen i would be happy :( |
| 15:21:49 | amiconn | Then it would no longer be a mini... |
| 15:22:12 | theli_ua | ok... same size screen but smaller pixels :D |
| 15:24:01 | theli_ua | are there any optimizations for grayscale lib on ipod targets planned? :( |
| 15:24:20 | amiconn | yes |
| 15:24:44 | amiconn | In fact ipod should see the biggest speedup... |
| 15:24:57 | theli_ua | can't wait to see :) |
| 15:25:18 | theli_ua | who is working on this? amiconn, you? |
| 15:25:23 | amiconn | yes |
| 15:25:34 | theli_ua | cool |
| 15:27:23 | theli_ua | btw, anyone tried http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5400 .. i have some free from work time now and if anyone has some feedback .... |
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| 15:45:51 | Jungti1234 | Rockbox is receiving attention in Korea. :) |
| 15:46:20 | amiconn | theli_ua: Refreshing a full-screen greyscale bitmap in a loop went from 14.2 to 26.1 fps on mini! Wee! :) |
| 15:46:49 | Jungti1234 | iriver, ipod, iaudio, gigabeat, yepp ...... |
| 15:47:25 | amiconn | The gain on recorder is considerably less, but still there: 3.4 -> 4.0 fps |
| 15:47:35 | amiconn | About to the H1x0... |
| 15:47:41 | amiconn | s/the/test/ |
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| 15:55:52 | preglow | amiconn: what're you doing? |
| 15:56:27 | theli_ua | amiconn, congratulations :) |
| 15:56:40 | amiconn | preglow: Learning to love arm asm :) |
| 15:57:27 | theli_ua | amiconn, are you going to commit anytime soon? :) |
| 15:57:51 | amiconn | preglow: I've implemented a faster algorithm for the grayscale library update functions. It performs especially well on arm |
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| 15:58:26 | amiconn | That's partially because arm loves to bitshift, but also because of the data cache I guess |
| 15:59:03 | amiconn | In fact the speedup on H1x0 is moderate, even less than on archos |
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| 16:00:36 | amiconn | H1x0: +8%, Archos: +17%, iPod mini: +83% |
| 16:02:13 | markun | amiconn: impressive |
| 16:02:45 | Bagder | whoa |
| 16:02:48 | amiconn | Very visible in doom... |
| 16:03:03 | aliask | Was vorbis floor 0 floating point at some stage? |
| 16:03:46 | aliask | Sorry, I'm kinda new to this sort of thing... |
| 16:04:45 | preglow | hah |
| 16:05:00 | preglow | aliask: tremor has always been fixed point |
| 16:05:24 | aliask | Hrm, ok... there goes that theory. |
| 16:05:30 | preglow | amiconn: it does take some time to learn how to exploit the arm properly |
| 16:06:40 | amiconn | The gain is not due to improper use arm arm features in the old implementation, it's because of a new algorithm |
| 16:06:42 | Mikachu | after that you learn how to use the opposable thumbs |
| 16:07:19 | amiconn | This algorithm is just especially elegant on arm |
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| 16:13:18 | MadDog011 | barrywardell: mail ? |
| 16:14:41 | * | petur patiently awaits a BOFH episode on El Reg |
| 16:14:41 | barrywardell | not today :( |
| 16:14:45 | MadDog011 | daaaaaaamn :( |
| 16:15:26 | barrywardell | have to wait for next week. The remainder of the patch was added to CVS today though |
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| 16:16:56 | barrywardell | so that's some progress anyway |
| 16:17:07 | MadDog011 | I guess :| |
| 16:18:58 | barrywardell | at least they haven't contacted me to ask how i broke it! |
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| 16:19:35 | MadDog011 | hahahha :) |
| 16:19:39 | MadDog011 | yea, u think they r gonna replace it |
| 16:19:41 | MadDog011 | or fix it? |
| 16:22:16 | barrywardell | dunno. my brother broke his a while ago and they fixed it. took about two weeks from when he sent it to when he got it back |
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| 16:28:07 | amiconn | Asm monster is there... |
| 16:29:21 | MadDog011 | Silent Hill DVDRIP OUT !!! |
| 16:29:25 | MadDog011 | w00t !!!! |
| 16:30:04 | Snyper | Asm monster? |
| 16:30:08 | Mikachu | the comment in lcd-x5.c says YCrCb 4:2:0 but references YCbCr at wikipedia, which is it? |
| 16:30:51 | amiconn | Try looking up YCrCb in wikipedia and see what happens |
| 16:30:52 | Snyper | amiconn: Just out of sheer curiousity, is your name in anyway a reflection of where you work? Like maybe AMI? (American Megatrends Inc)? |
| 16:30:59 | amiconn | nope |
| 16:31:13 | Snyper | Just wondering because my brother works there |
| 16:31:16 | amiconn | ami stands for Amiga (the computer) |
| 16:31:20 | Snyper | gotcha |
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| 16:32:21 | RaeNye | Aloha |
| 16:33:00 | Bg3r | amiconn: and the ...conn part ? |
| 16:34:40 | RaeNye | where does logf() save its output? |
| 16:34:50 | Bagder | in a memory buffer |
| 16:35:13 | RaeNye | and how can I tell it to flush it to HDD? |
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| 16:35:22 | Bagder | in the debug menu iirc |
| 16:35:58 | RaeNye | (I'm working on the PCF50606 thingy, but currently pcf_read() doesn't work so I have no ADC -> no button control except ON) |
| 16:36:16 | Bagder | hehe |
| 16:36:45 | RaeNye | is there some function that flushes it that I can call directly, say, on device poweroff? |
| 16:37:32 | Bagder | logfdump |
| 16:38:50 | * | RaeNye hates printf() debugging |
| 16:39:03 | amiconn | Do you have a remote? |
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| 16:39:52 | RaeNye | not yet, snail mail is kinda slow. Does logf() affects the remote? |
| 16:40:05 | Mikachu | you can display it there iirc |
| 16:40:14 | amiconn | If you do a logf build, the logf() output is shown on the remote |
| 16:40:29 | amiconn | ..in parallel to being logged of course |
| 16:40:41 | RaeNye | effective... |
| 16:41:25 | amiconn | Yeah, just don't use logf() excessively from time critical isrs |
| 16:41:36 | amiconn | May hang; had that when debugging recording on iriver |
| 16:42:35 | RaeNye | so the right place to call logfdump() would be sys_poweroff() or shutdown_hw() ? |
| 16:43:03 | amiconn | How do you shutdown if you have no button control? |
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| 16:43:47 | RaeNye | ON button is GPIO-based |
| 16:44:19 | RaeNye | i can also flick it to turn on BL when BL timer shuts it down :) |
| 16:44:38 | amiconn | Ah ok, on==off on X5 |
| 16:45:02 | RaeNye | isn't on==off on other platforms as well? |
| 16:45:03 | _FireFly_ | depending on the hw status i guess |
| 16:45:14 | _FireFly_ | not on h1x0 |
| 16:45:27 | _FireFly_ | play == on and hold stop == off |
| 16:45:28 | amiconn | ..and neither on archos recorders nor player |
| 16:45:41 | amiconn | The Ondio has on==off |
| 16:46:22 | RaeNye | but deciding which button is OFF is just a software issue, right? |
| 16:46:40 | amiconn | On some targets, yes |
| 16:47:15 | amiconn | The archos targets have hardware poweroff which still works when the firmware is frozen |
| 16:47:51 | RaeNye | H300/X5 too (via PCF50606) |
| 16:48:17 | amiconn | Imho that's a better design than the irivers, where you have to carry a small pin in order to reset the unit if the firmware hangs |
| 16:48:51 | amiconn | Ah, so probably we should program the PCF to do hardware shutdown after a long enough timeout (say, 10 seconds) |
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| 16:49:41 | amiconn | The (relatively) newer archoses (fmrecorder, recorder v2 and Ondios) have a 10-second hardware timeout |
| 16:49:49 | RaeNye | it's not programmable; if it detects a 8-seconds ON press that is not acknowledged, it shuts down |
| 16:50:05 | RaeNye | (on x5) |
| 16:50:27 | amiconn | 8 seconds would be ok imho |
| 16:50:27 | RaeNye | h300 has pcf as well... doesn't it? |
| 16:50:31 | amiconn | yes |
| 16:51:22 | Slasheri | on h1xx with runtime stat gathering enabled & dircache & tagcache & rockbox in flash, it takes usually over 10s to shutdown |
| 16:51:35 | amiconn | Unfortunately the early archos units (player and recorder v1) have a 1..2 seconds timeout which is too short to intercept. We still do software shutdown, just not the way it's written in the of manual |
| 16:56:29 | RaeNye | it *can* be acknowledged, but that's risky on the can't-shutdown-at-all side |
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| 17:00:03 | rosethornn | hello? |
| 17:00:45 | amiconn | Slasheri: Why does it take so long? |
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| 17:02:27 | Slasheri | amiconn: i am sure it can be optimized a bit. Currently storing the runtime data of the buffered tracks can take a few seconds, and after that player dumps the dircache and tagcache images to the disk |
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| 17:03:08 | Rosethornn | how do I uninstall rockbox from a third gen iPod and revert back to the iTunes firmware? |
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| 17:03:46 | linuxstb_ | Rosethornn: Have you kept a copy of the bootpartition.bin from when you installed it? |
| 17:04:14 | Rosethornn | yes |
| 17:04:34 | linuxstb_ | Then you just need to write that file back to your ipod's firmware partition. |
| 17:04:41 | Rosethornn | that's the problem |
| 17:04:49 | Rosethornn | it's decided it won't be friends with my computer. |
| 17:05:15 | Mikachu | you know you can hold menu to start the apple firmware at bootup? |
| 17:05:41 | Rosethornn | whenever I plug it in, it flashes 'do not disconnect' twice (which is the normal 'connection is in place' text), then 'ok to disconnect', which usually only happens when you go to eject it. |
| 17:05:59 | Rosethornn | so there's no time for the computer to even recognise it's there before it automatically ejects. |
| 17:06:07 | Rosethornn | so I reboot the ipod, same thing happens. |
| 17:06:13 | Rosethornn | repeat x infinity. |
| 17:06:25 | Mikachu | have you tried the emergency disk mode? |
| 17:06:28 | linuxstb_ | Have you forced it into disk mode? http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations |
| 17:06:40 | _FireFly_ | does ist also happen when you boot into the apple fw? |
| 17:06:56 | Rosethornn | it should already be, I've got a tonne of stuff I put on there and took to a friend's house |
| 17:06:58 | Rosethornn | but I'll try |
| 17:07:41 | Rosethornn | boot mode combo does nothing |
| 17:07:52 | Rosethornn | I'll try it with the ipod firmware |
| 17:08:05 | Mikachu | according to that page you can brick your ipod by rebooting after a firmware upgrade during the flashing |
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| 17:09:39 | Rosethornn | brick? |
| 17:09:54 | Rosethornn | and anyway, now it's running the normal firmware |
| 17:10:03 | Rosethornn | but refuses to notice that's it's plugged into a computer |
| 17:10:05 | Mikachu | turn it into something you can only use to build a house |
| 17:10:10 | RaeNye | umm, I get the impression that my alternate pcf50606_write() doesn't work as well :(( |
| 17:10:22 | RaeNye | grr argh. |
| 17:10:34 | Rosethornn | when I replug the connection, it notices it for a couple of minutes, never comes up on the computer, and then goes back to ignoring the PC completely. |
| 17:10:35 | Rosethornn | nice. |
| 17:10:50 | Rosethornn | it doesn't even want to charge from it |
| 17:10:52 | Mikachu | tried another usb port on your computer? |
| 17:10:52 | Rosethornn | despite needing it |
| 17:10:55 | Rosethornn | yep |
| 17:10:57 | Rosethornn | not the pc |
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| 17:13:18 | Rosethornn | so is there any way for me to save my ipod from being screwed over? |
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| 17:14:17 | Rosethornn | I'll try another *cable*, just in case. |
| 17:15:48 | Rosethornn | ok, it's not the cable |
| 17:16:45 | RaeNye | well, bye for now. |
| 17:16:54 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
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| 17:21:01 | Rosethornn | so, any help guys? |
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| 17:23:31 | Jungti1234 | why? |
| 17:23:40 | Jungti1234 | hm |
| 17:25:13 | Rosethornn | why what? |
| 17:25:44 | linuxstb_ | Rosethornn: Obvious question, but have you tried rebooting your PC? Or if possibly trying a different PC? |
| 17:25:59 | Rosethornn | I'll reboot the PC.. |
| 17:26:02 | Rosethornn | brb |
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| 17:26:20 | * | linuxstb_ found a way to get rid of troublesome questions... |
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| 17:31:06 | Rosethornn | rebooting made no difference |
| 17:33:54 | Rosethornn | so does this mean my iPod is completely busted now? :/ |
| 17:34:02 | linuxstb_ | My only other suggestion is to charge it for a while, then try again. Forcing ipods into disk mode should always work - unless there is a hardware problem. I've never had any problems with mine, no matter what I've done to it... |
| 17:34:37 | Rosethornn | I tried forcing it into disk mode |
| 17:34:46 | Rosethornn | by pressing << + >> at the reboot |
| 17:34:50 | Rosethornn | nothing happened. |
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| 17:35:02 | Rosethornn | it's 75% charged |
| 17:35:23 | linuxstb_ | Is it plugged into your computer when you're trying to force it into disk mode? |
| 17:35:30 | Rosethornn | yes |
| 17:35:44 | Rosethornn | this has happened before, on 2 seperate computers, but those times after I rebooted/yelled at it half a dozen times, it worked for a little while. |
| 17:35:46 | linuxstb_ | Are you pressing the combination quickly enough? |
| 17:36:00 | Rosethornn | as quick as I can, and as quick as it takes for any other combination |
| 17:36:17 | linuxstb_ | What about diagnostics mode? |
| 17:36:39 | Rosethornn | what is/how do I do that? |
| 17:36:59 | linuxstb_ | It's on the same page I linked you to earlier: http://ipodlinux.org/Key_Combinations |
| 17:37:09 | Rosethornn | sorry, I lost my logs when I rebooted |
| 17:37:58 | Rosethornn | no effect |
| 17:37:59 | linuxstb_ | It's exactly what the name suggests - it allows you to perform various hardware tests. |
| 17:39:13 | linuxstb_ | Apart from this, is your ipod working OK? |
| 17:39:17 | Rosethornn | yes |
| 17:39:20 | Rosethornn | it's all fine |
| 17:39:34 | Rosethornn | I had it taken in once, about 3 months ago to get the clickwheel working again |
| 17:39:46 | Rosethornn | but its never done this with the original firmware |
| 17:40:27 | Rosethornn | it's just automatically disconnecting from the PC. |
| 17:40:44 | Rosethornn | if I leave it alone, it treats it like a power socket and nothing else |
| 17:40:59 | Rosethornn | but whatever I do, it won't accept that its plugged into a PC |
| 17:43:06 | linuxstb_ | Sorry, I've got no more idea... |
| 17:43:11 | Rosethornn | ok, in disk mode it saiys 'disk mode' at the top |
| 17:43:21 | Rosethornn | but still says 'ok to disconnect' on the screen |
| 17:43:33 | Rosethornn | even though I a) don't want to and b) didn't do anything to suggest I did. |
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| 17:45:37 | suge | Hey i just bought a video ipod. I would love to install rockbox, but it seems like rockbox doesn't support video playback. Can rockbox dual boot with the apple firmware so I can still watch videos |
| 17:45:40 | suge | ? |
| 17:46:04 | Jungti1234 | yep |
| 17:46:46 | suge | thanks.. is dual booting the correct term I should search for on the wiki? |
| 17:47:27 | Jungti1234 | perhaps ipod is Menu + Select key |
| 17:47:44 | suge | ok.. thanks. I think i found a thread on the forum |
| 17:47:52 | Jungti1234 | :) |
| 17:48:19 | Rosethornn | I guess it's a good thing I just got a DS, they can do mp3s and ogg with the right software. |
| 17:48:29 | Jungti1234 | suge: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 17:48:53 | suge | ty |
| 17:53:15 | Mikachu | suge: the default install procedure lets you dual boot |
| 17:54:06 | suge | yeah this is cool stuff.. can't wait till the ipod gets here. $199 for 30gb video refurb... Same warranty as if I bought it new |
| 17:55:42 | suge | with tag cache, can i dump all my mp3s into one folder, and be able to automatically browse by artist/genre? Im not the most organized person, so i probably won't do /artist/album/song storage |
| 17:55:53 | Rosethornn | I think rockbox, ipodlinux, etc voids your warranty..? |
| 17:56:03 | Mikachu | suge: assuming your tags are organized |
| 17:56:31 | suge | Rosethornn, you can always reformat it back to the propper apple firmware |
| 17:56:41 | Mikachu | not if it breaks before you have the chance |
| 17:57:04 | suge | :-/ is that possible? |
| 17:57:11 | Rosethornn | yes |
| 17:57:14 | linuxstb_ | suge: Yes - if you have proper tags. |
| 17:57:14 | suge | i thought the emergency mode was a low level feature |
| 17:57:22 | suge | thanks |
| 17:57:23 | Mikachu | i mean if the hardware breaks |
| 17:57:35 | linuxstb_ | suge: It is. I've never heard of anyone not being able to enter it - unless there's a serious hardware problem. |
| 17:57:36 | Mikachu | you would have to try really hard to break it by software |
| 17:57:40 | suge | but rockbox shouldn't effect the hardware right? |
| 17:57:44 | rconan | it doesnt |
| 17:57:44 | suge | oh ok |
| 17:57:50 | rconan | the chances are very slim |
| 17:58:10 | Rosethornn | is my USB thing a possible hardware malfunction? |
| 17:59:51 | rconan | Rosethornn: unlikely |
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| 18:00:31 | linuxstb_ | rconan: So what's the problem then? |
| 18:00:42 | rconan | i dont know actually |
| 18:00:46 | linuxstb_ | :) |
| 18:00:58 | Rosethornn | -.- |
| 18:01:11 | rconan | ill rephrase that |
| 18:01:26 | rconan | if it is a hardware malfunction it's unlikely that rockbox could have caused it |
| 18:03:30 | Rosethornn | hm |
| 18:03:35 | Rosethornn | well I doubt that it is |
| 18:03:39 | Rosethornn | since it charges fine |
| 18:03:49 | Rosethornn | and it was working yesterday |
| 18:04:12 | rconan | im not fully aware of what the problem is because i only joined the channel after you started talking |
| 18:04:31 | Rosethornn | ipod, 3rd gen, refuses to recognise computer, even in disk mode |
| 18:04:40 | linuxstb_ | Time to go. Good luck Rosethornn. |
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| 18:04:51 | Rosethornn | it recognisees it for 3 seconds, before happily announcing that it's now 'ok to disconnect' |
| 18:05:15 | Rosethornn | the pc doesn't see anything at any point in this |
| 18:05:46 | Rosethornn | it used to see it as a shadowy 'Q drive' that contained nothing, but now it's stopped even showing that. |
| 18:06:41 | Rosethornn | is there any way to remove rockbox without connecting to a PC? |
| 18:07:02 | rconan | no |
| 18:07:13 | Rosethornn | >_> |
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| 18:09:37 | Rosethornn | wow |
| 18:09:45 | Rosethornn | it's suddenly started recognising it |
| 18:10:34 | Rosethornn | I just replugged it into the original USB slot (that hadn't been working before, the one I had was the alternative already), in disk mode, and it started seeing it. |
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| 18:11:03 | Rosethornn | I think I'll wait until rockbox is a bit more advanced. ^^; |
| 18:11:25 | rconan | Rosethornn: i seriously doubt rockbox had anything to do with it |
| 18:12:02 | Rosethornn | Well it never happened until I started using rockbox |
| 18:12:15 | Rosethornn | and on the bugs page there are near-identical reports |
| 18:16:11 | markun | Rosethornn: well, perhaps we cause the problem then after all. Can you link me to the bug report? |
| 18:16:22 | Rosethornn | one sec.. |
| 18:16:55 | Rosethornn | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4753 is very similar |
| 18:17:43 | markun | Rosethornn: I don't think USB problems on the ipod and the irivers are related |
| 18:17:53 | markun | but who knows |
| 18:18:00 | Rosethornn | that's true |
| 18:18:06 | Rosethornn | anyway, thanks for your help |
| 18:18:19 | Rosethornn | and putting up with my whining. I was just scared it would never work again. ^^; |
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| 18:18:24 | Rosethornn | cya |
| 18:18:25 | markun | :) |
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| 18:36:45 | Terinjokes | i just a quick question, I got rockbox already on my nano, and i want to update to the latest version, how would I install? |
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| 18:39:53 | Mikachu | Terinjokes: just unzip rockbox.zip |
| 18:40:12 | Terinjokes | and move the .ipod and .rockbox to the nano right? |
| 18:40:22 | Mikachu | it's better if you unzip them there directly |
| 18:40:43 | Terinjokes | hrm, why? |
| 18:40:52 | Mikachu | merging subdirs isn't fun in explorer |
| 18:41:05 | Terinjokes | i don't use explorer ;-) |
| 18:41:21 | Mikachu | it's not fun with mv either |
| 18:41:47 | Terinjokes | you could have told me earlier |
| 18:41:56 | Mikachu | told you what earlier? |
| 18:42:41 | Terinjokes | nvm, i just realised i can unzip directly to the ipod, creates a rockbox directory |
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| 18:48:51 | XavierGr | Does the X5 now has the same battery time with the original firmware |
| 18:48:53 | XavierGr | ? |
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| 18:50:25 | markun | XavierGr: I've seen people in the forum claim it's about the same |
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| 19:04:39 | Terinjokes | your right, it deleted my themes |
| 19:04:59 | Mikachu | ? |
| 19:09:03 | Terinjokes | when i moved the .rockbox directory....oh well |
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| 19:09:25 | Mikachu | right, that's why you wanted to unzip it to your ipod |
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| 19:51:22 | Jungti1234 | markun |
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| 19:56:41 | SeanAUS | i have a question, would it be possible to implant, currently you can turn off the backlight on the ipod, but why not have it turn off the display altogether? |
| 19:58:27 | netmasta10bt | how would u know it was on? |
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| 20:01:41 | SeanAUS | the music is playing |
| 20:01:50 | SeanAUS | duh! though i see your point |
| 20:03:24 | Mikachu | yes, it's possible |
| 20:03:29 | Mikachu | it's done for some other players |
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| 20:05:29 | SeanAUS | i'm just saying, because it seems my battery doesn't last very long (rockbox or ipod) |
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| 20:45:46 | XavierGr | markun: nice |
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| 20:45:58 | XavierGr | any specific commit about it? |
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| 20:57:21 | Damme_ | hello! :) I have tried to find on your site, but cannot, ipod video, does it support video yet? mp4? |
| 20:57:31 | linuxstb | no |
| 20:58:04 | SeanAUS | no |
| 20:58:12 | linuxstb | There's a video player (mpeg1/mpeg2) in development, but that's not specific to the ipod video, so it doesn't use the video hardware specifically. |
| 20:58:15 | Damme_ | ok, :) too bad else I would change today! too bad I dont have time to code too =/ working too much now |
| 20:58:41 | SeanAUS | so i can expect video on my nano in a few years ;-) |
| 20:58:48 | Damme_ | hehe |
| 20:59:07 | SeanAUS | Damme_ you can always go back to the apple firmware to watch the videos |
| 20:59:14 | Damme_ | true |
| 20:59:28 | linuxstb | SeanAUS: Sooner than that on the Nano I hope. Rockbox's video player can already play video at around 24fps-25fps on the Nano (but no audio yet). |
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| 20:59:35 | tucoz | hello |
| 20:59:36 | _Veseliq_ | http://www.jengajam.com/r/End-Of-The-World |
| 20:59:52 | tucoz | I saw something funny in a store today. http://www.kickmusic.no/ehandel/BilderImp/803/486rockboxstor.jpg |
| 20:59:54 | Damme_ | I'll check it out then I get the time :) itunes suxxors so that's why I wanna change firmware so I can copy with my favorite filemanager |
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| 21:00:12 | tucoz | The funny part is that the logo/colours are somewhat similar |
| 21:00:14 | SeanAUS | it takes like 5 seconds to switch |
| 21:00:15 | SeanAUS | normally it takes me 5 seconds to figure out "hold" is on ;-) |
| 21:00:15 | SeanAUS | oh, cool! can i beta test that then? |
| 21:01:14 | linuxstb | SeanAUS: You already have it installed if you've got a current Rockbox build. See here for info: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 21:01:29 | SeanAUS | i have today's CVS (1155 i think) |
| 21:01:36 | linuxstb | Then you have it. |
| 21:01:52 | Damme_ | that's kind of cool , how does it look to use ipod video's video hardware ? any specs you guys found out ? :) |
| 21:02:12 | linuxstb | Damme_: Nothing at all. About all we know is the name of the chip. |
| 21:02:35 | Damme_ | oh, damn, well a long research infront of you then /= |
| 21:02:38 | SeanAUS | is it a viewer? |
| 21:02:49 | linuxstb | SeanAUS: Yes - just click on a .m2v file in the file browser. |
| 21:03:24 | linuxstb | As that wiki page says, it only plays back raw video streams at the moment. |
| 21:03:42 | linuxstb | (using one of the ipods two ARM cores) |
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| 21:06:17 | SeanAUS | i don't have any videos in .m2v atm...i would convert, but trying really hard to rescue a dead drive atm |
| 21:07:20 | SeanAUS | bbl |
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| 21:07:43 | pixelma | Slasheri around? |
| 21:09:17 | * | linuxstb just had an odd email from Sourceforge - someone had requested to take over one of my projects and I had 14 days to say no, otherwise the takeover would go ahead... |
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| 21:15:06 | Damme_ | linuxstb BCM2722 <−− that's the decoder right ? |
| 21:15:16 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 21:15:57 | Damme_ | they are used is some mobile-phones, I have a friend that work at a ericsson, he may be able to get some documents ;) |
| 21:16:17 | preglow | we'll see... |
| 21:17:10 | linuxstb | Damme_: There is a firmware for it in the ipod's firmware partition (the rcrs file you created during the install). This is a FAT16 disk image (maybe with a small header at the start), and that shows some interesting looking files. But AFAIK, that's about as far as anyone has got trying to understand it. |
| 21:18:34 | Damme_ | linuxstb cool, maybe something to dig into :) i'm kind of boored during work , so I could try something :P need a projekt to work with too :) |
| 21:19:15 | Damme_ | I'm a guard with free computer access :P all I need to do is stay awake .. :P |
| 21:19:42 | Slasheri | pixelma: yes |
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| 21:25:01 | pixelma | Slasheri: I have a problem with using tagcache on my Ondio (bleeding edge build)... |
| 21:26:29 | pixelma | ...if I want to add for example a album by "long press" on the "folder" then playlist -> insert last I get an error message... |
| 21:27:09 | pixelma | oops... now it worked |
| 21:29:15 | pixelma | sorry :) |
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| 21:30:21 | linuxstb | Damme_: If you're looking for things to do, there's a to-do list for the ipod port here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus |
| 21:30:43 | Damme_ | linuxstb ok :) |
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| 21:43:28 | Slasheri | pixelma: hmm :) |
| 21:43:45 | pixelma | Slasheri: but when I chose "insert next" on an album while playing music the track order is the wrong way round (starting with track 14...ending with 1) |
| 21:43:59 | pixelma | for example |
| 21:44:17 | pixelma | that doesn't happen with "insert last" |
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| 21:50:56 | Damme_ | hmm ipod emulator ? ;)) dont think that exist though: P |
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| 22:00:35 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hi, here is the new bootloader (improved eeprom drivers and hold switch detection): http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/bootloader.iriver (06d5a6e217b58e4141bf8d7d7b79d33b bootloader.iriver) |
| 22:00:50 | Slasheri | linuxstb: newest cvs can be used to flash that |
| 22:01:28 | Slasheri | (just make sure to add iriver_flash.c into apps/plugins/SOURCES) |
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| 22:09:21 | pixelma | Slasheri: and in filebrowser mode the whole album gets inserted in the right order, too |
| 22:09:44 | Slasheri | pixelma: hmm, interesting |
| 22:10:10 | Slasheri | probably sorting is not done at all.. i will see if it's easy to fix that |
| 22:10:42 | pixelma | nice :) |
| 22:10:55 | Slasheri | yep, sorting is currently ignored |
| 22:10:57 | amiconn | It almost looks like 'insert next' on a tagcache "sub-dir" calls 'insert next' for each individual track internally |
| 22:11:22 | Slasheri | amiconn: yep, that is correct |
| 22:11:41 | Slasheri | i don't know any other way to insert bunch of tracks from tagcache to the playlist |
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| 22:12:42 | Slasheri | and tracks are unsorted because entries are not buffered to any list so they could be sorted |
| 22:12:51 | amiconn | How does filetree handle it? |
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| 22:13:25 | Slasheri | hmm, it probably reads entries directly from the tree buffer.. i will check that |
| 22:14:02 | amiconn | Also, an idea: If you split 'insert next' on a folder differently, you can work around the problem |
| 22:14:27 | amiconn | Only the first track needs to use 'insert next' internally, all others should then use 'insert' |
| 22:14:46 | amiconn | (iiuc) |
| 22:14:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, there is a function playlist_add() i didn't notice before |
| 22:15:01 | amiconn | I don't know the actual code, and hardeep isn't here... |
| 22:15:07 | Slasheri | that might be better to use |
| 22:15:15 | Slasheri | hmm, in fact no.. |
| 22:15:32 | Slasheri | because it doesn't know anything about position or queue flags |
| 22:16:49 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm.. currently it isn't possible to insert folders recursively and independently because that would be very slow tagcache search to do |
| 22:17:34 | amiconn | Well, I don't think we need recursive insert |
| 22:17:36 | Slasheri | now we just need to do one tagcache search that will insert all selected sub-folders to the playlist, unfortunately all entries unsorted |
| 22:17:58 | amiconn | Yes, but the tagcache lists are pre-sorted |
| 22:18:23 | amiconn | The problem only exists with 'insert next' on a folder |
| 22:18:32 | Slasheri | yes, true.. hmm, maybe we could pre-load the list to the buffer and sort it there.. just like tagcache browser does |
| 22:18:34 | amiconn | ..because it switches the whole order |
| 22:18:46 | Slasheri | however, sorting doesn't work if max entries in a dir limit is reached |
| 22:19:19 | amiconn | Please, not too much extra code... |
| 22:19:42 | amiconn | Rombox is already broken for fmrecorder & recorder v2 :( |
| 22:19:44 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, true. so we should insert only the first track with "insert next" and all following tracks as "insert" |
| 22:19:52 | amiconn | Yes, internally |
| 22:19:58 | Slasheri | that shouldn't involve much new code because it's already there |
| 22:20:45 | Slasheri | so after that inserting a single folder should have the right order |
| 22:22:32 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, in fact entries are already pre-loaded and sorted.. (i was looking the wrong function). So only necessary change would be to internally remove the "next" from commands |
| 22:23:07 | amiconn | Yes, except the first one |
| 22:24:19 | Slasheri | yep |
| 22:24:32 | pixelma | Slasheri: another question... what does "Auto update" do on Archos targets? (because I read in the wiki that it doesn't work if dircache isn't enabled) - I'm investigating tagcache for the first time today |
| 22:24:54 | Slasheri | pixelma: without dircache it only detects new files (not deleted ones) |
| 22:25:11 | Slasheri | and is slightly slower than with dircache |
| 22:25:44 | Slasheri | and will eat more battery at startup |
| 22:26:00 | pixelma | not on Ondios I guess ;) |
| 22:26:08 | amiconn | Not that much, no |
| 22:26:10 | Slasheri | oh, ondios should be really fast |
| 22:26:36 | Slasheri | in fact those players wouldn't benefit much from the dircache |
| 22:26:42 | amiconn | Reading the flash still uses more battery than no access, but it's significantly less than a hard disk needs |
| 22:29:17 | pixelma | Slasheri: yes it's so fast that I was confused by the splashscreen that appears when you enter a sub-dir |
| 22:29:32 | pixelma | in tagcache |
| 22:30:09 | Slasheri | hehe :) that splash screen is displayed only when tagcache operates from "disk" because usually there is slight delay to wait :D |
| 22:30:58 | amiconn | Hmm, the splash updates periodically |
| 22:31:17 | amiconn | Could it be made time dependent, so that it only pops up after, say, 1 second? |
| 22:31:56 | Slasheri | hmm, possible. But if disk is just spinning up, it might be harder to display it when search blocks |
| 22:32:01 | * | preglow suddenly remembers his accelerated arm crossfeed |
| 22:32:04 | amiconn | Or just after the first update period instead before |
| 22:32:34 | amiconn | Hmm, true |
| 22:33:18 | amiconn | @all: How fast is tagcache on (filled up) nano? |
| 22:33:39 | * | amiconn should test on Ondio with 4GB MMC |
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| 22:59:57 | dwihno | darn. rombox is too big to fit :( |
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| 23:12:14 | TeaSea | Hey guys, did the patch for the X5 so it switches off the USB-OTG chip get integrated into CVS? |
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| 23:12:34 | Bagder | yes |
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| 23:14:15 | amiconn | dwihno: We can disable tagcache in ram for archos. Reclaims almost 2KB, and will make rombox fit (tighly) on fm/v2 |
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| 23:14:34 | amiconn | I already have that locally, and would like opinions... |
| 23:15:19 | dwihno | amiconn: not on rec20? :) |
| 23:15:31 | amiconn | On rec20 it fits with cvs |
| 23:15:37 | dwihno | nope |
| 23:15:41 | dwihno | I tried the bleeding edge |
| 23:15:46 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 23:15:56 | amiconn | Built yourself? |
| 23:16:15 | dwihno | nope |
| 23:16:30 | dwihno | File too big. Won't fit in chip. |
| 23:17:31 | amiconn | Oh, you probably have a stone-age flash image. See here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BootBox |
| 23:17:47 | dwihno | sounds reasonable |
| 23:18:07 | dwihno | Living in the stone age is still pretty swell ;D |
| 23:18:14 | dwihno | every single KB counts! |
| 23:18:20 | amiconn | I recommend a full flash upgrade |
| 23:18:26 | dwihno | The watermark is too high btw. |
| 23:18:44 | amiconn | What watermark? |
| 23:18:48 | dwihno | buffer refill |
| 23:18:56 | dwihno | a personal opinion |
| 23:19:16 | dwihno | (no, I have no extra buffring configured) |
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| 23:31:49 | dwihno | has there been any discussions on using configuration files only instead of the sector stuff? |
| 23:32:16 | amiconn | yes |
| 23:32:31 | amiconn | That's one of the many things I'd like to look into |
| 23:32:31 | XavierGr | slasheri is it possible to flash the H100 now? (I mean from a cvs build) |
| 23:34:48 | dwihno | amiconn: I'll buy you a beer once it's implemented ;) |
| 23:35:13 | dwihno | Thanks to the U.S "Beer for code" program |
| 23:35:16 | dwihno | :) |
| 23:35:30 | * | amiconn prefers german beer |
| 23:36:39 | dwihno | I prefer dutch beer |
| 23:36:57 | dwihno | stout = not my cup of tea |
| 23:37:33 | pixelma | right that's not tea ;) |
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| 23:39:01 | dwihno | there we go. bootboxed and romboxed. |
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| 23:45:34 | dwihno | honestly I have to say that audio sounds better on recorder, compared to ipod g5 |
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| 23:46:14 | windowsrefund | hi |
| 23:46:48 | windowsrefund | I've got an older build of rockbox on my nano and am wondering how I might upgrade to the latest daily build |
| 23:46:50 | * | ToyKeeper wonders if anyone would consider making the volume go lower than -73dB |
| 23:47:00 | Mikachu | windowsrefund: just unzip the newest rockbox.zip from the cvs builds page |
| 23:47:40 | windowsrefund | nice |
| 23:47:45 | Mikachu | (to your ipod) |
| 23:47:50 | ToyKeeper | I just encountered a song which, even at -73dB, is uncomfortably loud when heard via my E3C headphones. |
| 23:48:18 | Mikachu | you can normalize your songs so they're all at the same perceived loudness |
| 23:48:34 | ToyKeeper | ReplayGain? |
| 23:48:52 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 23:48:53 | ToyKeeper | Is there a way to store the gain outside the actual song files? |
| 23:49:02 | Mikachu | i don't think so |
| 23:49:16 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. |
| 23:49:27 | Mikachu | but i think the 73dB is a hardware limit |
| 23:50:17 | ToyKeeper | Oh, I thought it was doing soft volume... the original fw (X5) went from 0 to 40, instead of -73 to 6. |
| 23:52:08 | Mikachu | that is at least the case on ipods |
| 23:52:44 | Mikachu | i guess you could enable the eq and just use the precut |
| 23:53:24 | ToyKeeper | Oops, locked up. Heh. |
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