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| 00:09:19 | preglow | someone tell the bugtracker to stop reminding me! |
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| 00:14:54 | XavierGr | preglow: I believe bagder sents those emails every satruday |
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| 00:28:22 | pixelma | Slasheri: I found out what caused my problems with tagcache and "insert" of a whole folder... I could give you a recipe to repeat it if you want |
| 00:29:20 | pixelma | though I don't know if it's the same on other targets |
| 00:36:27 | BHSPitMonkey | preglow, I think if you just fix all the bugs, there might not be reminders any more ;) |
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| 01:46:30 | Bunkey | icatcher theme look funny on my ipod color, how can i fix that? |
| 01:51:20 | preglow | how funny? |
| 01:51:25 | preglow | do you use the one for ipod color? |
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| 01:53:38 | Bunkey | ya i use the right 1, i can dcc u a photo |
| 01:53:49 | preglow | go ahead |
| 01:54:14 | preglow | you didn't send correctly |
| 01:54:18 | preglow | says my client |
| 01:54:41 | Bunkey | hmmm must be my router |
| 01:54:56 | preglow | if you've got a router and haven't configed it: then yes, that's it |
| 01:55:13 | Bunkey | no idea how to config it haha |
| 01:55:54 | Bunkey | anyway it look out of place.... and a pink block on bottom right |
| 01:57:38 | preglow | haha |
| 01:57:45 | preglow | then it doesn't sound like you're using the right one |
| 01:57:50 | preglow | or perhaps are missing some files |
| 01:59:00 | Bunkey | hmm, do i need any plugin for that? i just installed rockbox yesterday, didnt install any extra plugin |
| 01:59:17 | preglow | no plugins |
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| 02:02:00 | Bunkey | i'll try update rockbox, just download cvs and replace right? |
| 02:02:20 | preglow | sure |
| 02:02:27 | preglow | but i doubt that's what's wrong |
| 02:02:27 | preglow | anyway |
| 02:02:29 | preglow | i've gotta go |
| 02:02:30 | preglow | good luck! |
| 02:02:48 | Bunkey | k cya |
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| 02:13:38 | sharpe | arr. strange happenings with my compilation. |
| 02:15:48 | safetydan | hrm... I could have sworn gcc had an option to emit assembler with the C code as a comment next to each line |
| 02:16:05 | safetydan | -fverbose-asm isn't quite it |
| 02:17:55 | sharpe | wow. i fixed my problem. |
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| 05:12:38 | jn | hey the car adapter option doesnt seem to work for me.. that is for chargers correct? |
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| 05:22:17 | Bunkey | is there a way to make the text size bigger? |
| 05:34:49 | dongs | chang efonts. |
| 05:35:42 | sharpe | sounds reasonable. |
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| 05:40:37 | jhMikeS | Where is the info on programming for m68k-elf-as? I've been looking about but can't come up with much and typing "man m68k-elf-gcc" just brings up a list of options and switches. |
| 05:42:10 | jhMikeS | I meant "man m68k-elf-as" |
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| 05:50:06 | Bunkey | finally fixed icatch theme |
| 05:51:56 | safetydan | jhMikeS, what sort of information are you after? |
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| 05:54:16 | jhMikeS | safetydan: All the stuff on assembly programming, mostly how to write assebly for that assembler. The CPU prog ref has all the instructions already. |
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| 05:57:36 | safetydan | jhMikeS, What more do you need than the CPU data sheet? I can't quite see what you're missing. |
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| 06:01:33 | jhMikeS | I want to know how to declare data. More specifically jump tables in this case. |
| 06:05:13 | safetydan | jhMikeS, you probably want the gas manual, something like http://www.gnu.org/software/binutils/manual/gas-2.9.1/html_chapter/as_3.html#SEC25 |
| 06:08:26 | jhMikeS | safetydan: looks like that's probably the stuff. thanks. |
| 06:09:01 | safetydan | jhMikeS, the other thing to do is just look at the output from running the assember |
| 06:09:09 | safetydan | i.e. passing -S to gcc |
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| 06:10:33 | imphasing_ | I heard something about compressed video on Rockbox.. is this true? |
| 06:10:35 | imphasing_ | :] |
| 06:11:34 | jhMikeS | safetydan: I tried like hell with -S and couldn't get much to happen. |
| 06:12:14 | jhMikeS | imphasing_: It's in the process but very slow atm. |
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| 06:13:40 | imphasing_ | Are you using some custom codec, or is it using a pre made one? |
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| 06:15:40 | jhMikeS | imphasing_: For MPEG-2 it's just libmpeg2 I believe for now. |
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| 06:16:24 | imphasing_ | Ah.. that would probably explain why it's slow |
| 06:16:54 | imphasing_ | Right now, there's a simple compressed video player for ipodlinux that uses a really simple jpeg like compression scheme, and it can get about 12fps on an ipod nano |
| 06:17:03 | jhMikeS | Feel free to suggest something if you know what might be a better start point. |
| 06:17:04 | Mikachu | we have about 24fps on nano |
| 06:17:11 | imphasing_ | :o |
| 06:17:12 | imphasing_ | nice! |
| 06:17:24 | jhMikeS | I can get 16 in the x5 without a perfect lcd_yuv_blit |
| 06:17:34 | imphasing_ | interesting.. |
| 06:17:39 | imphasing_ | what's the compression rate like? |
| 06:17:41 | Mikachu | but no sound |
| 06:17:48 | Mikachu | it's normal mpeg2 video streams |
| 06:17:48 | imphasing_ | s/rate/ratio |
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| 06:17:55 | jhMikeS | True, no sound...:( |
| 06:17:59 | imphasing_ | Ah.. |
| 06:18:02 | Mikachu | no sound, yet |
| 06:18:11 | imphasing_ | it would probably be fast to just use uncompressed sound.. |
| 06:18:16 | imphasing_ | but then it would be bigger |
| 06:18:19 | Mikachu | we still have one unused cpu |
| 06:18:29 | jhMikeS | I think that decoder needs have unneeded crud removed first. It's too general purpose. |
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| 06:18:39 | imphasing_ | hm.. |
| 06:18:57 | Mikachu | it has x86 specific code in some places, you can probably remove that |
| 06:19:08 | Mikachu | if someone makes a portable mp3 player on x86... |
| 06:19:12 | imphasing_ | Using the second processor seems to be fairly tricky.. I think there's only 2 programs that use both in ipodlinux right now |
| 06:19:41 | imphasing_ | I think it has to do with the lack of a scheduling system in the kernel |
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| 06:19:58 | safetydan | jhMikeS, try something like this: m68k-elf-gcc -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/firmware/include -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/firmware/export -I. -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120 -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/bitmaps -I/home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/apps -Irecorder -Igui -W -Wall -O -nostdlib -ffreestanding -Wstrict-prototypes -g -m5200 -Wa,-m5249 -malign-int -mstrict-align -fomit-frame-pointer -DIRIVER_H120 -DTARGET_ID=9 -DAPPSVERSION=\"060812 |
| 06:19:59 | safetydan | -1003\" -DMEM=32 -c eq.c -S -fverbose-asm -o /home/dan/src/rockbox/build-h120/apps/eq.S |
| 06:20:11 | safetydan | change paths as appropriate of course |
| 06:20:19 | safetydan | and the source file that you want to assemble |
| 06:21:10 | jhMikeS | safetydan: I tried something like that and it was just throwing up hundreds of errors so something wasn't exactly right :). |
| 06:22:36 | jhMikeS | It had the inlude paths but it was saying all kinds of stuff wasn't defined and such. It drove me nuts. I'd like to have it output with source and hex. I think there should be a make option for that IMO. |
| 06:23:46 | jhMikeS | -fverbose-asm? |
| 06:24:05 | jhMikeS | BTW: Does that actually work for you? |
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| 06:27:28 | safetydan | jhMikeS, works just find |
| 06:27:30 | safetydan | fine even |
| 06:27:48 | safetydan | I've been using to look at the eq code |
| 06:27:59 | safetydan | make sure you run it while your current directory is rockbox/apps |
| 06:28:43 | jhMikeS | Well...you know...I don't believe my cd was rockbox/apps! :) |
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| 06:33:21 | Harry | yo what is teh up |
| 06:34:07 | jhMikeS | safetydan: Would that be true if you're compiling something in target/ ? |
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| 06:55:33 | safetydan | jhMikeS, make V=1 should tell you what you need for target. |
| 06:57:32 | jhMikeS | Just did that and it works now at least for eq.c but that has a lot of info anyway. |
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| 07:05:03 | Dev-Hace | Hey does rockbox really play mpeg now? |
| 07:05:33 | Dev-Hace | ?> |
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| 07:10:01 | safetydan | Dev-Hace, it can play mpeg1 and mpeg2 video files (no sound though) yes. |
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| 07:10:05 | safetydan | Early days though. |
| 07:10:07 | safetydan | bah |
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| 08:29:54 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Dunno whether you still need it, but in order to see how to declare stuff for the asm, I often simply look into one of the already existing .S files |
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| 08:31:55 | amiconn | Another hint regarding jumptables: Jumptables involving a data read are slow, unless the table is in IRAM. Using a computed branch into a streak of bra.s is faster. Reason: our coldfire has an instruction cache but no data cache. |
| 08:33:25 | amiconn | And finally, regarding the usage of IRAM buffers in lcd_yuv_blit(), you can simply make these buffers auto-vars. lcd_yuv_blit() is only called by the main thread (== gui thread), and the main stack is in IRAM. |
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| 09:10:23 | Bger | morning |
| 09:12:44 | Bger | guys, don't allow your players to shut down because of low battery while in USB mode ... it seems that my disk has developed bad sectors because of this :(((( |
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| 10:36:46 | JdGordon | hey all |
| 10:38:09 | markun | morning JdGordon |
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| 10:53:38 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, interesting. It seems that it's necessary to "insert next" the tracks in reverse order to the playlist, because otherwise "insert" after "insert next" inserts track to end of the current playlist |
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| 10:57:53 | markun | Slasheri: would it be difficult to display things from tagcache in the playlist viewer? |
| 10:58:03 | markun | like track length for example |
| 10:58:12 | Slasheri | markun: hmm, shouldn't be hard |
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| 10:58:32 | Slasheri | especially if tagcache is loaded in ram, querying those things should be fast |
| 10:59:01 | Slasheri | Hmm, in fact tagcache browser could show the length also.. |
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| 11:00:03 | pixelma | Slasheri: I found out what caused my first problem with tagcache... |
| 11:00:20 | pixelma | ...I put a description here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5801 |
| 11:00:49 | Slasheri | pixelma: ah, thanks. i will have a look |
| 11:00:58 | pixelma | thanks |
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| 11:16:18 | Slasheri | pixelma: hmm, interesting.. that is definately a playlist failure, i can reproduce it too |
| 11:16:30 | Slasheri | maybe hardeep should take a look |
| 11:16:42 | pixelma | IIUC I don't have that in filebrowser mode |
| 11:16:52 | pixelma | remember even |
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| 11:21:04 | Slasheri | ah, hmm |
| 11:21:30 | pixelma | Slasheri: just tested it agian - no problems in filebrowser mode |
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| 11:30:48 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Noticed the build table? An unused variable in tagcache code... |
| 11:33:06 | Slasheri | linuxstb: ah.. fixing |
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| 11:57:04 | JdGordon | yippe :D its working! |
| 11:57:28 | safetydan | What's that then? |
| 11:57:45 | JdGordon | the setting patch, regular int values are using it now also |
| 11:57:53 | JdGordon | and should be working on al targets well noe |
| 11:57:57 | JdGordon | now even |
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| 11:59:02 | linuxstb | How does the int value settings screen work? Does it just display a long list of all the integer values? |
| 11:59:11 | JdGordon | ye |
| 11:59:21 | JdGordon | the volume list looks odd.. but works fine |
| 11:59:40 | linuxstb | I don't think that will work well on targets with slow LCD drivers, such as the ipods. |
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| 12:00:02 | JdGordon | why not? its no worse than the tree browser... |
| 12:00:12 | linuxstb | Exactly - the tree browser is slow when dealing with long lists. |
| 12:00:50 | JdGordon | its using the text callback to get the item name, so its not a large list really... |
| 12:00:58 | linuxstb | Wouldn't a slider be a better way to represent integer settings, if we're looking to improve the UI? |
| 12:01:44 | JdGordon | yes and no... |
| 12:02:22 | JdGordon | anyway, with his i think there is a fair bit of code which is uneeded anymore |
| 12:03:03 | JdGordon | .. and it the quickscreen didnt use the option_select stuff that whole file could be removed |
| 12:04:03 | linuxstb | I like the idea of using the list widget for options with a list of values, but am not convinced about using it for integers. |
| 12:04:30 | safetydan | yeah integers I'm not sure about |
| 12:04:34 | safetydan | slider definitely is an option |
| 12:04:37 | JdGordon | neither was i at first, but then i got a bit confused when there was only 1 item under the title... |
| 12:04:58 | linuxstb | In which case, use a slider? |
| 12:05:14 | JdGordon | you need to show the actual value also, but i guess that could work |
| 12:05:16 | linuxstb | That way, a user can see both the min/max values immediately. |
| 12:06:38 | linuxstb | Apart from volume, what else is an integer setting? |
| 12:06:59 | safetydan | stereo width |
| 12:07:07 | safetydan | most of the equalizer settings |
| 12:07:21 | safetydan | crossfeed |
| 12:07:31 | JdGordon | do a search for set_int in te apps folder.. there are about 30 |
| 12:07:46 | linuxstb | OK... So quite a few then. |
| 12:07:48 | JdGordon | apps/gui/select.c is redundant |
| 12:10:22 | JdGordon | making a seperate gui for the int settings wouldnt be difficult tho... |
| 12:15:28 | JdGordon | patch is http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5795 if your interested... |
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| 12:17:12 | safetydan | JdGordon, if you have the cvsutils package installed you should be able to do cvsdo remove filename |
| 12:18:05 | JdGordon | ok |
| 12:20:45 | JdGordon | woopsies :p aparently select.h is actually still neded :p |
| 12:27:05 | JdGordon | no, 1 typedef from it was.. |
| 12:27:25 | safetydan | right, time for the win32 and x11 sims to go away |
| 12:27:34 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering: Is it really nescessary to align burst reads with movem on coldfire to burst-sized boundaries? |
| 12:27:36 | JdGordon | kill them goodly!! |
| 12:28:36 | JdGordon | safetydan: do u need to add anything to cvs diff show the removed files are in the pacth? |
| 12:28:58 | safetydan | umm... it should pick them up if you've done cvsdo remove |
| 12:29:23 | JdGordon | did that, doesnt say anything about them.. |
| 12:29:37 | safetydan | odd |
| 12:29:56 | safetydan | Try adding -N |
| 12:31:09 | JdGordon | :) that got em |
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| 12:34:17 | pixelma | is there a common abbreviation of "average" shorter than "avg"? |
| 12:34:42 | JdGordon | 3 letters isnt short enough for you? |
| 12:34:57 | safetydan | pixelma, not really |
| 12:35:38 | pixelma | JdGordon: not for the rockbox_default wps and the rockbox_default font on Archos screens... |
| 12:36:08 | JdGordon | oh |
| 12:36:25 | pixelma | if there is ID3 information too |
| 12:37:12 | pixelma | (I mean info about the id3 version) |
| 12:37:46 | JdGordon | can you do a small icon instead of the letters? |
| 12:38:01 | JdGordon | I cant think how you could say average any shorter |
| 12:38:05 | linuxstb | pixelma: "av" would probably work. |
| 12:38:09 | pixelma | the default wps shouldn't be graphixc I think |
| 12:38:38 | linuxstb | But I don't think I would be happy with it... |
| 12:38:48 | pixelma | hmm |
| 12:40:02 | midkay | what about just using ~? like ~137kbit. |
| 12:40:19 | linuxstb | That would work. |
| 12:40:26 | pixelma | I tried that - it looks odd with the default font |
| 12:40:41 | pixelma | so I think the only solution is that the line should scroll then |
| 12:40:54 | linuxstb | Or improve the ~ character in the default font - if possible. |
| 12:41:14 | pixelma | :) |
| 12:41:57 | midkay | well, hm.. how odd exactly? ;) |
| 12:42:13 | linuxstb | Do you need the cbr/vbr indicator at all? Almost all VBR files will be a non-standard bitrate - i.e. not 128/160/192 etc. |
| 12:42:41 | midkay | might be nice to have.. |
| 12:42:52 | midkay | what about some other symbol? just like... *137kbit.. |
| 12:43:09 | linuxstb | Yes, but I'm sure there are other things missing. And a user can always customise if that info is important to them. |
| 12:43:16 | midkay | something that people will discover or read about to mean VBR. |
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| 12:43:37 | midkay | rockbox_default can't be modified unless one opens up gwps.c or whatever and extracts the code.. |
| 12:43:43 | midkay | which should be changed, IMO. |
| 12:43:52 | pixelma | I didn't invent the default screen... I just found out that the on my vbr-files the id3 version is cut off while using the default "theme" |
| 12:44:54 | midkay | and the solution becomes crystal: remove the id3 version bit. :) |
| 12:45:35 | pixelma | I already removed the brackets - still there are some pixels cut off |
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| 12:47:20 | midkay | *shrugs* then... |
| 12:54:11 | JdGordon | right, im bored again... stupid friedns being anti-sociall... what else needs some fixing in the ocdE? |
| 12:57:02 | safetydan | pull replaygain and id3 tag stuff out of firmware and in to apps |
| 12:57:44 | JdGordon | sounds like a silly place for them... why are they there anyway? |
| 12:58:31 | safetydan | historical reasons |
| 12:58:39 | safetydan | it's not as easy as it looks |
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| 13:01:45 | Triple-z | hello |
| 13:02:19 | JdGordon | allo |
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| 13:02:42 | Triple-z | how stable is rocbox for ipod video? (sorry for the noob quastions ;]) |
| 13:05:51 | linuxstb | It's very stable as in it never crashes (at least for me). But the port isn't finished - see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus |
| 13:06:58 | JdGordon | safetydan: did i miss something obvious? i just moved id3.c into apps and changed both SOURCES files and did make celan && make and it worked fine? |
| 13:07:11 | linuxstb | Did you compile for hwcodec? |
| 13:07:17 | Triple-z | battery life is good? |
| 13:07:18 | JdGordon | ah, no |
| 13:07:26 | JdGordon | is player hwcodec? |
| 13:07:28 | safetydan | Triple-z, the batter life isn't great yet... |
| 13:07:30 | safetydan | JdGordon, yes |
| 13:07:44 | linuxstb | Triple-z: Around 7-10 hours I believe - so no, not as good as the original firmware. |
| 13:07:51 | Triple-z | ok |
| 13:08:09 | Triple-z | is it UMS after you deploy rockbox or what? |
| 13:08:33 | JdGordon | HWCODEC compiled fine |
| 13:08:45 | linuxstb | The ipod always has been UMS. It's just that Apple's firmware needs the itunes database updating as well in order to find the files. |
| 13:08:57 | linuxstb | Rockbox can access the files without a database. |
| 13:09:08 | linuxstb | (or it can create its own database on the fly) |
| 13:09:08 | Triple-z | great |
| 13:09:10 | safetydan | JdGordon, sim or target? |
| 13:09:19 | JdGordon | safetydan: target... |
| 13:09:23 | Triple-z | so no need for shitty itunes |
| 13:09:25 | JdGordon | 99% sure target |
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| 13:09:47 | JdGordon | yup, tagert |
| 13:10:52 | safetydan | clean build? |
| 13:11:06 | safetydan | if it works, move on to replaygain.c then :) |
| 13:11:31 | JdGordon | safetydan: yup clean build... ok |
| 13:11:31 | safetydan | don't forget the .h files need to move as well |
| 13:11:51 | JdGordon | BAH BUM.... ok, mooving the .h breaks it |
| 13:12:22 | JdGordon | simple solution is leaving the .h in apps/export? |
| 13:13:42 | safetydan | firmware code can't/shouldn't call apps code, so if the .c file moves so should the .h |
| 13:15:35 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I tried to move id3.[ch] and related files to apps/ a while ago - I posted a comment to the dev mailing list about the problem I ran into. It's basically hard to move until the hwcodec playback engine is either moved to apps/ or merged with the swcodec playback engine. |
| 13:16:02 | JdGordon | cant or shouldnt? it didnt give any link errors which i thought was odd... but if it has no problems linking we can just do #inlcue "../apps/id3.h" cant we |
| 13:16:03 | JdGordon | ? |
| 13:16:20 | JdGordon | linuxstb: isnt there talk about redoing the playback engine again to moerge the 2 properly? |
| 13:17:31 | linuxstb | Yes, Slasheri has mentioned a desire to rewrite the playback engine. |
| 13:18:12 | JdGordon | is doing #include "../apps/id3.h" an acceptable stop-gap untill then? |
| 13:18:53 | linuxstb | I would say no. What do we gain by half-moving it? |
| 13:19:03 | linuxstb | (and breaking the golden rule) |
| 13:19:19 | JdGordon | we move both files, just 2 paths are broken... |
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| 13:21:15 | JdGordon | just depends how badly you want id3 and replaygain moved into apps |
| 13:22:04 | safetydan | not badly enough to break the rules |
| 13:23:23 | safetydan | Ah well, there's always the 111 bugs that need fixing |
| 13:24:37 | JdGordon | the replaygaim functions are not used by any code in firmaware/ anyway, s there shoudlnt be a problem moving them |
| 13:27:27 | JdGordon | is it there because it relies on the id3 stuff? |
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| 13:28:07 | linuxstb | I thought the hwcodec devices had replaygain support? |
| 13:28:22 | JdGordon | nope, its only swcodec |
| 13:28:41 | JdGordon | unless its in another file... replaygain.c isnt compiled for hwcodec |
| 13:29:11 | linuxstb | Are you sure the id3 tag parsing doesn't rely on the replaygain functions? |
| 13:30:02 | JdGordon | oh, woops.. i did the search after i moved id3.* out of firmware |
| 13:30:03 | linuxstb | id3.c calls the replaygain.c functions - so if id3.c is in firmware/, replaygain.c must be as well. |
| 13:37:00 | safetydan | though maybe they should be #ifdef'd out for hwcodec |
| 13:38:04 | safetydan | no point parsing tags that aren't used |
| 13:41:06 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5773 is funny... |
| 13:43:31 | safetydan | linuxstb, which chipsets have hardware equalizer support? |
| 13:43:36 | * | safetydan needs a #define to use |
| 13:44:25 | safetydan | ah, HAVE_WM8758 will do fine |
| 13:44:44 | JdGordon | how about HAV_HW_EQ?? |
| 13:45:52 | safetydan | well at the moment I only know of one chipset with a hardware equalizer |
| 13:46:12 | JdGordon | wasnt the idea to get away from hardware specific defines tho? |
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| 13:47:32 | linuxstb | safetydan: Yes, it's just the WM8758 at the moment. |
| 13:49:20 | JdGordon | linuxstb: the replaygain stuff in id3.c is only for swcodec also... so its only one include breaking the rule.. |
| 13:50:36 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I'm still against the idea. We may as well just wait and do it properly. |
| 13:54:25 | JdGordon | fuck.. i just removed the wrong rockbox folder :'( |
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| 13:55:42 | JdGordon | damn bloody linux and no recycle bin :'( |
| 13:55:53 | lamed | hello everyone :) |
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| 13:56:15 | ze | JdGordon: don't blame the OS for your mistakes :p |
| 13:56:21 | JdGordon | haha :'( |
| 13:56:31 | daurnimator | hi all |
| 13:57:22 | ze | besides, there are some recycle-binish solutions if you're really a klutz |
| 13:57:49 | lamed | anyone against FS #5182? |
| 13:59:05 | daurnimator | i HATE FD#5182 |
| 13:59:12 | daurnimator | FS is ok |
| 13:59:13 | daurnimator | ;) |
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| 14:00:17 | lamed | huh? I wrote FS |
| 14:00:18 | linuxstb | lamed: Is that page up/page down or something else? |
| 14:00:57 | lamed | linuxstb: that's changes horizontal screen scrolling to hold left/right instead of a key combo such as ON+left/right |
| 14:01:04 | daurnimator | i'm just ranting |
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| 14:07:43 | linuxstb | lamed: Doesn't that conflict with moving up and down the directory levels by holding left/right? |
| 14:07:53 | webguest36 | I installed rockbox for my GF on her nano and she doesn't like it, how do I uninstall it without having to DL the ipod restore utility ( I'm on windows XP) thanks!! |
| 14:08:30 | linuxstb | webguest36: The installation instructions (IpodInstallation) have uninstallation instructions at the very start. |
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| 14:09:00 | webguest36 | linuxstb: thanks |
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| 14:10:36 | webguest36 | ipodpatcher -w 5 bootpartition.bin |
| 14:10:39 | webguest36 | ;-) |
| 14:11:13 | linuxstb | Yes - assuming your ipod is still drive 5. |
| 14:11:17 | webguest36 | yea it is |
| 14:11:34 | webguest36 | rockbox is cool but, on the nano it cuts battery life like in half |
| 14:11:39 | linuxstb | You can then also delete the rockbox.ipod file and .rockbox folder. |
| 14:12:30 | webguest36 | oh yea, I had forgot about those thanks |
| 14:16:05 | webguest36 | has anyone else noticed how bad the battery life on the nano is ? |
| 14:16:29 | S0ap | everybody knows the battery life is less than stock on all the ipods. |
| 14:16:55 | webguest36 | I could live with less than stock, But I mean it is like un believably bad |
| 14:17:10 | webguest36 | It's alot better on my ipod video |
| 14:17:39 | S0ap | percentage wise, it should be the same between the models. |
| 14:17:44 | S0ap | (roughly) |
| 14:17:56 | webguest36 | oh yea? |
| 14:18:06 | webguest36 | maybe it's because on the nano it is using tag cache? |
| 14:18:26 | linuxstb | People are getting around 8 hours playback on a Nano I think. |
| 14:18:36 | webguest36 | im not getting near that |
| 14:18:47 | linuxstb | What kind of files are you playing? |
| 14:18:52 | webguest36 | mp3 |
| 14:18:55 | excitatory | i definitely get that.. |
| 14:19:01 | excitatory | ogg -q 6 |
| 14:19:34 | linuxstb | High bitrate mp3? |
| 14:19:53 | S0ap | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime |
| 14:20:31 | webguest36 | nah |
| 14:20:35 | webguest36 | like 128? |
| 14:20:49 | linuxstb | So what runtimes are you getting? |
| 14:20:56 | S0ap | how much eyecandy did you turn on? |
| 14:21:15 | S0ap | Also, were you using peakmeters, EQ, replaygain, etc? |
| 14:21:31 | webguest36 | that was my next Q i have been using alot of colored themes |
| 14:21:31 | excitatory | i definitely do not even get 4 hours with tag cache on though.. |
| 14:21:41 | webguest36 | no peakmeters, eq or replay gain |
| 14:21:47 | webguest36 | ahh so tagcache is the culprate? |
| 14:22:08 | linuxstb | All tagcache should do is take up a few hundred KB of the audio buffer. I wouldn't expect that to half the runtime. |
| 14:22:11 | webguest36 | thing is since i converted from apple all my music is random file names and I need a database to see what the hell msuic I have |
| 14:22:35 | thouters | any devs here who know where to change a few things to lock the gui into the while playing screen forever (for use on an ipod nano with broken lcd) |
| 14:23:18 | excitatory | i hate tagcache..no offense.. it takes forever to update, sucks battery.. and not only that..but as far as i can tell, it doesn't even have dynamic playlist options.. (with the standard file view, i can be playing an album, then quick queue some other one up on the fly before the currently playing one stops) |
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| 14:23:51 | linuxstb | excitatory: How do you know it sucks battery? |
| 14:25:04 | excitatory | um.. well, not only does the wiki mention it, but it's obvious.. on first boot after it commits the db, there's always a significant chunk of battery life missing on the battery indicator.. |
| 14:25:07 | webguest36 | Too be honest on my nano I don't really need any of the rockbox features and the thing I love about my nano is the great battery life so It looks like no rockbox on the nano for me |
| 14:25:23 | excitatory | file mode, it reports near 100 percent for the first two hours |
| 14:25:44 | preglow | webguest36: if you don't need rockbox features, then why are you even contemplating it? |
| 14:25:58 | excitatory | heh, funny.. i couldn't live w/out it.. all my music is flac or ogg |
| 14:26:00 | webguest36 | I have used it in the past I enjoy the games some times but it's not a necessity |
| 14:26:20 | webguest36 | preglow: and i was using it until about 10 minutes ago ;-) |
| 14:26:51 | preglow | linuxstb: btw, is the second core "enabled" these days? |
| 14:27:25 | excitatory | not to mention i can't stand the gaps in between tracks using the apple firmware.. and let's not get into the nasty itunesdb you have to deal with.. but that's just me.. and so i guess i'm partial ;D |
| 14:28:10 | webguest36 | I love Itunes |
| 14:28:15 | preglow | god, it's crap |
| 14:28:19 | webguest36 | only program I like better than it for music is amarok |
| 14:28:25 | webguest36 | but i don't use linux anymore |
| 14:28:27 | preglow | i hate it even more than pink headbands |
| 14:28:57 | S0ap | my computer is too slow for itunes. |
| 14:28:59 | webguest36 | every girl crazy about a sharp dressed man |
| 14:29:18 | webguest36 | i have a sony vaio p4 with ht @ 3ghz 2gb ram |
| 14:29:40 | dan_a | preglow: Second core is not enabled - but now it is put to sleep by the main Rockbox program, not by the bootloader |
| 14:29:56 | preglow | dan_a: no, not enabled as such, no, but it is in a sleep loop, yes? |
| 14:30:13 | webguest36 | anyone here use bitpim / qpst on their cellphone ? |
| 14:30:21 | dan_a | preglow: That's correct |
| 14:31:29 | preglow | goodie |
| 14:32:03 | dan_a | preglow: Check cop_main() in main.c to see what's happening with the second core |
| 14:33:34 | webguest36 | man tool - no quarter is an amazing song |
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| 14:35:35 | preglow | mantool |
| 14:35:40 | excitatory | heh, what a loser |
| 14:35:48 | preglow | sounds like penis slang to me! |
| 14:35:50 | excitatory | itunes, and 128k mp3 |
| 14:35:52 | excitatory | pfff |
| 14:36:12 | excitatory | ;) |
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| 14:46:38 | lamed | how do I make a splash that disapears if the user press a button? |
| 14:47:36 | lamed | is it doable? |
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| 14:48:14 | lamed | (i think it is only if I count the time from the calling function and let it handle the keypress) |
| 14:48:43 | * | lamed slaps everybody... |
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| 14:54:20 | mortal | hello, does someone here know of the inner workings of a creative zen nano plus |
| 14:54:29 | mortal | I have one and I managed to fuck the fs up |
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| 14:56:19 | markun | mortal: no creative zen owners in here I think |
| 14:59:13 | preglow | logically enough, since rockbox doesn't run on it |
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| 15:04:46 | mortal | is it possible somehow to restore the fs? |
| 15:04:51 | mortal | without sending it to creative? |
| 15:05:16 | markun | mortal: why are you asking that here? |
| 15:06:11 | thegeek | because there is a lot of people that know a lot about the technical side of mp3 players here? |
| 15:06:34 | thegeek | I daresay that if I had an issue with _any_ player I would try a quick question here before sending it in;P |
| 15:06:45 | markun | :) |
| 15:06:54 | markun | Me too probably |
| 15:06:54 | thegeek | ;) |
| 15:06:56 | thegeek | hehe |
| 15:08:03 | lamed | I'd better ask again... I'm writing a (simple) function that's /* displays a splash for a given time, aborting if a key is pressed */. am I doing something that's already possible? |
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| 15:09:58 | linuxstb | You could call splash with whatever parameters make it return immediately, and then call the get_button_w_tmo() function. |
| 15:10:33 | lamed | yepp, that's the idea |
| 15:10:47 | lamed | i was wondering whether i'm missing something else |
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| 15:22:56 | senab | say i've created a shell file, is there any simple way of outputting a log file? |
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| 15:25:51 | linuxstb | Just do "./myscript.sh &> logfile" |
| 15:27:11 | senab | oh crap ye, why didn't i think of that? i was thinking of sort of echo command |
| 15:27:16 | senab | thanks linuxstb |
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| 15:40:56 | * | lamed committing FS #5182 |
| 15:43:59 | linuxstb | lamed: 14.07.43 # <linuxstb> lamed: Doesn't that conflict with moving up and down the directory levels by holding left/right? |
| 15:44:37 | preglow | does it indeed seem like it |
| 15:44:39 | lamed | ah, I answered to something totally different beforehand, sorry... |
| 15:45:27 | preglow | what's up with switching from 3*HZ to HZ*3 ? |
| 15:47:06 | lamed | try it, it won't affect at all. just as a prove of concept - up until now if you held right on a folder you quickly ended up selecting the first file in the max depth folder. (and why is that prooving it won't conflict with directories? because up until now you wouldn't ever use long presses on left and right) |
| 15:47:23 | linuxstb | I use it to move back to the root quickly. |
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| 15:48:20 | linuxstb | Which was the main complaint against the "left in root goes to WPS" request. |
| 15:49:05 | lamed | preglow: just looked like the correct styling |
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| 15:50:38 | preglow | there is no correct styling, people are free to format their source files as they want |
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| 15:50:51 | preglow | with the few limitations in CONTRIBUTING, that is |
| 15:53:49 | lamed | linuxstb: what could I say... like many other commitments, I've been trying to raise discussion about changing those keybinds for many many times, including forums & the mailing lists. I have had consent that one button operations are better from a bunch of guys, but none the less, we could scroll back if you find it inappropriate. |
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| 15:54:46 | linuxstb | lamed: I started to discuss it an hour ago when you said you were about to commit it... |
| 15:56:18 | lamed | hey, I don't blame you for nothing! I missed your second question, I thought I already answered it :) |
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| 15:58:03 | linuxstb | If others think it's worth sacrificing the ability to quickly move through the file browser, then I don't feel strongly enough about it to argue. So lets just wait and see what others say now it's committed. |
| 15:59:29 | preglow | ahh, you can keep it pressed as it is now |
| 15:59:31 | preglow | i didn't know that |
| 15:59:52 | lamed | that's a fine idea. I remember amiconn, & linusn approving it for sure, and I think bagder & preglow as well but I very might be mistaken. |
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| 16:00:54 | lamed | preglow? like: dislike; |
| 16:01:51 | preglow | i don't really feel very strongly about it |
| 16:02:00 | preglow | avoiding two button presses is undeniably good |
| 16:02:12 | linuxstb | I also never use the horizontal scrolling, so don't gain anything by the patch. But I agree ON+LEFT/RIGHT is awkward on the h1x0. |
| 16:02:33 | preglow | Slasheri: does flashed rockbox work more than thirty seconds now? |
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| 16:02:41 | preglow | thirty minutes... |
| 16:03:00 | linuxstb | preglow: I didn't know there was an issue... But I've only had my h1x0 flashed for a few days. |
| 16:03:39 | * | JdGordon back.. miss me?? :p |
| 16:03:52 | lamed | of course |
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| 16:07:27 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5338 ?? |
| 16:08:44 | * | preglow feels stupid for not having rockbox flashed... |
| 16:09:01 | JdGordon | why? |
| 16:09:10 | preglow | just remember slasheri saying there was an issue where it would lock up after thirty minutes or so |
| 16:09:11 | JdGordon | doesnt flashing it mean there is more chance of bricking it? |
| 16:09:48 | preglow | JdGordon: indeed, yes |
| 16:10:13 | JdGordon | right.. so why fell stupid for not? |
| 16:11:16 | preglow | it's not hardcore!"!¤!! |
| 16:11:22 | lamed | hehe |
| 16:11:24 | JdGordon | oh... i see.... |
| 16:11:42 | lamed | jdgordon: how things are going with your patch? |
| 16:11:51 | JdGordon | which one in particular? |
| 16:11:58 | JdGordon | im trying to get about 5 commited :p |
| 16:12:26 | lamed | I only know about 5338, which you have asked me to commit :) |
| 16:12:40 | JdGordon | its ready to go... |
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| 16:15:07 | lamed | (I told you, I get flames all the time none the less I try to discuss my submittons first...) are you managing to get people in favor of it? |
| 16:15:40 | JdGordon | safetydan thought i needed more whitespace.. but noone has said they dont want it... |
| 16:17:47 | lamed | what are your other patches? |
| 16:19:11 | JdGordon | 5782, 5623 (Linus likes that one but said he wants someone elses opionon on it..), 2808 |
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| 16:22:09 | lamed | why's mmmm never around?! |
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| 16:26:02 | lamed | jdgordon: I'm not sure, but I think 5782 can only confuse, but anyways that's out of my turf actually. |
| 16:26:51 | JdGordon | meh, ye, i got sick of having to do the $ifdefs.. Bagder liked it so hopefully he'll commit it.. one day... :p |
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| 16:29:52 | Slasheri | preglow: it should work just fine as currently we use the ram image |
| 16:30:17 | Slasheri | preglow: if you would like to try, you can find the tested bootloader image here: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/bootloader.iriver |
| 16:30:31 | Slasheri | the flash plugin includes crc checksum of that file |
| 16:31:10 | Slasheri | preglow: to restore original fw, you either can use the rom dump feature before flashing, or convert an original ihp_120.hex to ihp_120.bin and use that |
| 16:31:49 | Slasheri | linuxstb: btw, did you upgrade to the latest bootloader? |
| 16:32:04 | Slasheri | linuxstb: the older one had a problem with eeprom timing and the new one should be faster also |
| 16:32:04 | linuxstb | No, not yet. |
| 16:32:23 | linuxstb | I'll charge my h140 and do it later today. |
| 16:32:29 | Slasheri | sounds good :) |
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| 16:32:49 | preglow | Slasheri: what do you mean use the ram image? |
| 16:32:50 | Slasheri | and you no longer need any patches to do that, recent cvs should work fine |
| 16:32:54 | linuxstb | Will that be the last time? ;) |
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| 16:33:03 | Slasheri | preglow: that is the same rockbox.iriver file that is loaded from disk |
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| 16:33:15 | Slasheri | so the image is not linked and ran directly from flash |
| 16:33:28 | Slasheri | only rom images had that issue with playback |
| 16:34:07 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hehe, the current bootloader should be quite stable :) |
| 16:34:25 | preglow | Slasheri: ah, right, so the only thing that's really different is that we load the image from flash instead of from disk |
| 16:34:33 | Slasheri | preglow: true |
| 16:34:45 | preglow | sounds good |
| 16:34:48 | Slasheri | and with flashed rockbox we also hibernate dircache & tagcache |
| 16:34:49 | preglow | think i'll give it a whirl |
| 16:34:55 | Slasheri | that gives about 3s boost to boot time |
| 16:35:10 | Slasheri | because the eeprom memory is used too |
| 16:37:12 | preglow | for what? |
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| 16:37:59 | Slasheri | preglow: eeprom contains a flag if disk is intact from changes |
| 16:38:13 | Slasheri | preglow: when entering for example bootloader usb mode, that flag is cleared |
| 16:38:30 | Slasheri | and that enables the possibility to hibernate dircache for faster booty |
| 16:38:31 | Slasheri | -y |
| 16:38:44 | Slasheri | hmm.. i should write a wiki page about flashing |
| 16:38:58 | leftright | Slasheri: is your flash routine user selectable, |
| 16:39:57 | Slasheri | leftright: hmm, what do you mean with that? |
| 16:40:04 | leftright | nevermind, you're going to write it up :) |
| 16:40:20 | preglow | haha, i like the fact that rasher's add button doesn't work |
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| 16:41:58 | Slasheri | leftright: it works as a plugin, and you can use it as "open with..." for following type of files: "/rockbox.iriver", "/bootloader.iriver", "/ihp_120.bin", "/internal_rom_000000-1FFFFF.bin" |
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| 16:42:33 | Slasheri | plugin automatically detects the file type and performs necessary checks |
| 16:42:52 | leftright | Slasheri: thnaks, I'll wait for detailed instructions before fiddling with this |
| 16:42:56 | preglow | Slasheri: i just flash bootloader first, then rockbox.iriver? |
| 16:42:57 | Slasheri | for example it's not possible to flash rockbox.iriver unless compatible bootloader has been flashed before |
| 16:43:12 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, you can't do the other way :) |
| 16:43:22 | Slasheri | preglow: and do you have h120/h140? |
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| 16:43:33 | Slasheri | because it might not work correctly on other players |
| 16:43:50 | preglow | h120 |
| 16:43:56 | Slasheri | good, should work fine |
| 16:44:00 | preglow | we'll see :P |
| 16:44:04 | Slasheri | :D |
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| 16:47:59 | XavierGr | Slasheri: what happened to you military obligation, is it over now? |
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| 16:48:30 | Slasheri | XavierGr: almost, 22. it will be all over forever! :) |
| 16:48:50 | XavierGr | 22 days? |
| 16:49:00 | Slasheri | no, 22.8. :) |
| 16:49:07 | XavierGr | ah nice |
| 16:49:10 | Slasheri | hmm, 11 days :) |
| 16:49:17 | XavierGr | it seems like a century |
| 16:49:24 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 16:49:52 | XavierGr | be a good citizen then (as we say in our country when someone ends his military enlist) |
| 16:50:57 | XavierGr | So I heard that you are going to rewrite the playback engine? |
| 16:51:02 | XavierGr | is that true? |
| 16:51:42 | Slasheri | hmm, i would like to if i have enough time to do that :) |
| 16:52:10 | Slasheri | at least partially separate the buffering system |
| 16:52:42 | XavierGr | it would be the 3rd time that someone will write it agian. (and you had the first call :D) |
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| 16:55:42 | preglow | Slasheri: that was most certainly faster. thanks for helping me get rid of reatilos :) |
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| 16:57:52 | XavierGr | preglow: are you crazy? now you can't playback wma files!!! (sarcasm) |
| 16:58:34 | linuxstb | I only have one wma file, and the original firmware won't play it because it's 48KHz... |
| 16:58:45 | idnar | heh |
| 16:58:56 | idnar | I have zero wma files, and I very much hope that number will never increase |
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| 17:00:17 | XavierGr | I don't have wma files |
| 17:00:33 | xorAxAx | other people have wma files, but i happily transcode them :) |
| 17:01:08 | linuxstb | So I think we're unanimous - the original firmware has no use at all on the h1x0 :) |
| 17:01:33 | preglow | linuxstb: can't play because it's 48khz??? remarkable |
| 17:01:45 | preglow | linuxstb: their dsp subsystem seems to be heavily intertwined in their codec system |
| 17:02:29 | linuxstb | I guess so. I'm pretty sure it didn't play 48KHz vorbis either when I tried, but I think a later firmware fixed that. |
| 17:02:43 | preglow | it does play 48khz wav and mp3, at least |
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| 17:06:44 | Terinjokes | can anyone help me out trying to use Plugin MpegPlayer? |
| 17:07:07 | Slasheri | preglow: nice you got it working :) |
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| 17:07:34 | linuxstb | Terinjokes: What's the problem? |
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| 17:08:12 | Terinjokes | well, on the plugin page, it gives a code to put into terminal, but that code doesn't seem to work |
| 17:08:23 | linuxstb | You mean the vlc command? |
| 17:08:44 | Terinjokes | yeah |
| 17:09:10 | linuxstb | What's the error? |
| 17:09:21 | Terinjokes | i've ran it from the home folder, in applications, inside the VLC.app, everywhere i can think of |
| 17:09:21 | Terinjokes | hold on |
| 17:09:26 | linuxstb | I mean what's displayed on the screen? |
| 17:09:33 | linuxstb | So you're on a Mac? |
| 17:09:44 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:09:59 | Terinjokes | yes |
| 17:09:59 | Terinjokes | -bash: vlc: command not found |
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| 17:11:17 | linuxstb | You need to locate the vlc executable, and then enter the full path to it. A slow way would be to enter the command "find / -name vlc" |
| 17:12:17 | Terinjokes | i've ran it from applications, and from withen the VLC folder (ie. /VLC.app/Contents/MacOS |
| 17:13:10 | linuxstb | You may need to type ./vlc - by default Unix shells normally don't look in the current directory for programs. |
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| 17:13:28 | Terinjokes | hrm, well running the find now |
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| 17:18:42 | Slasheri | preglow: in fact dircache hibernation didn't work but should be fixed in latest cvs |
| 17:19:15 | Slasheri | -> faster boot |
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| 17:26:00 | SeanAUS | ok, um pastebin is acting up |
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| 17:33:15 | Terinjokes | http://pastebin.ca/127943 |
| 17:33:35 | Terinjokes | thats what i get when i try to convert |
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| 17:36:06 | Febs | Amazing how many compiler errors you can create by using (} instead of {}. |
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| 17:39:46 | Terinjokes | ah, window froze....brb |
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| 17:40:30 | Terinjokes | so, no answer to my question? |
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| 17:41:20 | KaPooT | if i put rockbox on my iPod, do i still have to use iTunes? |
| 17:41:26 | Terinjokes | no |
| 17:41:36 | KaPooT | it just works fine in disk mode? |
| 17:41:41 | Terinjokes | yeah |
| 17:41:44 | KaPooT | sweet |
| 17:41:55 | KaPooT | i hate iTunes |
| 17:42:18 | KaPooT | do i need to keep iTunes installed or anything? |
| 17:42:31 | Terinjokes | in fact on my ipod (nano) itunes won't even work with the ipod (then again, i'm on mac, so it is looking for a mac formatted ipod...) |
| 17:42:49 | Terinjokes | if you want to use itunes, you need it install, but other wise, no |
| 17:43:06 | KaPooT | k good, iTunes is a pretty sh!tty piece of software, i want nothin to do w/ it |
| 17:43:25 | Terinjokes | i love itunes, i don't know what your talking about |
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| 17:44:03 | KaPooT | to copy mp3's to a media player should not require nearly as bulky an interface |
| 17:44:10 | KaPooT | or a windows service (two for that matter) |
| 17:44:24 | Terinjokes | the ipod does not require itunes |
| 17:44:41 | KaPooT | well whenever i plug it in ... itunes comes up |
| 17:44:48 | S0ap | Not trying to steer you away from RockBox, but there are many capable itunes alternatives. |
| 17:45:01 | Terinjokes | Apple just wants you to believe that, in fact there are MANY applications that well move songs to the ipod |
| 17:45:13 | Terinjokes | your probably got Real Player installed |
| 17:45:28 | KaPooT | Real Player is another p.o.s. |
| 17:45:34 | Terinjokes | i agree |
| 17:45:48 | S0ap | If itunes pops up whenever you plug in your ipod, and you hate itunes, you are not "master of your domain" |
| 17:45:59 | KaPooT | i've come to terms with the fact |
| 17:46:00 | XavierGr | omg the mpegplayer in H300 is rather slow? |
| 17:46:03 | XavierGr | omg the mpegplayer in H300 is rather slow |
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| 17:46:06 | Terinjokes | then uninstall itunes, and use something else |
| 17:46:32 | Terinjokes | rockbox isn't going to stop itunes from opening |
| 17:46:44 | KaPooT | i just want something that works correctly in disk mode 100% |
| 17:47:02 | Terinjokes | what do you mean by that? |
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| 17:47:22 | KaPooT | where my iPod acts just like a thumb drive (jump drive etc.) nothing more, no software interface |
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| 17:47:34 | dropandho | hey guys...was wondering if there is anywhere that i can read about the EPROM stuff |
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| 17:47:50 | dropandho | i see lots of work for the EPROM...but no clue what it does. |
| 17:47:59 | metanick | Hi folks. I am about to install rockbox on my new IAudio X5. I have placed the x5_fw.bin file from the dual-bootloader on the wiki in my FIRMWARE directory and unzipped the 20060812 build zipfile into the player's root directory. Now I just disconnect the usb, power off and power on, correct? I just want to be sure I'm not about to brick my new player. =:\ |
| 17:48:00 | Terinjokes | well, KaPooT, rockbox uses the same drive mode the orginal ipod firmwire uses |
| 17:48:08 | S0ap | KaPooT - If you uninstall itunes and use rockbox you can do that, but even with itunes you can use your ipod as a simple drive. |
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| 17:48:23 | KaPooT | iTunes has got to go |
| 17:48:54 | * | Terinjokes doesn't see why people hate itunes, is itunes better on the mac or something? |
| 17:49:35 | Febs | If I do a cvs commit directory_name, will it commit all of the changes in that directory, or do I need to specifically list in the cvs commit command the files that have changed. |
| 17:50:58 | KaPooT | i just want to plug the dam thing in then be able to drag / drop mp3's and m3u's |
| 17:51:17 | Terinjokes | oh, then use rockbox |
| 17:51:50 | Terinjokes | though you might want to organise them a bit something Music/Artist Name/Album Name/Song Name |
| 17:52:05 | KaPooT | yea i'm big on organizin it my way |
| 17:52:15 | Terinjokes | or whatever your why is |
| 17:52:17 | KaPooT | i have a decent mp3 collection to begin with |
| 17:52:27 | Terinjokes | KaPooT, what ipod are you using? |
| 17:52:33 | KaPooT | nano 2 gig |
| 17:52:39 | Terinjokes | black? |
| 17:52:44 | KaPooT | of course |
| 17:53:00 | Terinjokes | hey, same one as me, my i suggest a theme? |
| 17:53:14 | KaPooT | thats what i'm here for, to talk about this before it goes down |
| 17:53:34 | dropandho | anyone know the advantages to this EPROM work? |
| 17:53:38 | Terinjokes | the default themes are UGLY |
| 17:53:52 | Terinjokes | i suggest this one, i think it goes with the rest of the nano |
| 17:53:53 | Terinjokes | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Neeon_Nano_Black |
| 17:54:12 | KaPooT | so, if i put rockbox on, drag drop folders of mp3 + m3u works fine? |
| 17:54:33 | Terinjokes | yep, so does many other formats, OGG Vorbis for example |
| 17:54:51 | KaPooT | excellent |
| 17:55:08 | KaPooT | ty |
| 17:55:13 | Terinjokes | np |
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| 17:56:27 | Terinjokes | and with rockbox, your nano plays video, or at least thats what they tell me, i can't get it to work |
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| 17:57:49 | KaPooT | lol, i cna live w/ just mp3s |
| 17:58:43 | S0ap | good man, for video 'tis silly. |
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| 18:01:42 | Terinjokes | i still can't encode transcode the video correctly...grm |
| 18:02:32 | Terinjokes | i just get stuck with a useless file no player on my computer can open |
| 18:03:42 | Terinjokes | gtg |
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| 18:11:50 | loco | hey, may i suggest a possible solution to the exclude-files-from-tagcache-problem? |
| 18:12:18 | Kohlriba | Does anyone have experience with wavpack lossy on rockbox? |
| 18:12:37 | Kohlriba | does it have a higher power consumption than vorbis on encoding? |
| 18:12:45 | loco | what about introducing a "filename" filter? this information is available in the cache anyway, isn't it? |
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| 18:14:12 | loco | then, you could use clauses like Music filename ? ^ "/music" or something like that. |
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| 18:18:04 | loco | or filename ? !^ "/recordings", given someone implements the not operator. ;) |
| 18:25:20 | linuxstb | loco: But that still means that tagcache indexes the whole disk? |
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| 18:26:51 | loco | yes, it does. that makes it still possible to have another setting in the config file that lets you browse the "evil files". |
| 18:29:41 | linuxstb | But it doesn't help if the evilness is the existing of thousands of files you never want to view in tagcache - such as the High Voltage SID Collection. |
| 18:30:27 | linuxstb | So I think both are ideas are useful - a way to filter by filename, and a way to limit the files tagcache indexes. |
| 18:30:48 | loco | oh, you mean it's a waste of memory. |
| 18:31:07 | linuxstb | And a waste of time indexing them in the first place - there are 32000 files in the HVSC. |
| 18:31:55 | loco | well, but that should happen only once. |
| 18:32:31 | linuxstb | But as you said, it's a huge waste of memory. |
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| 18:33:14 | loco | of course, i didn't take this into account. but i think it would be a nice feature anyway. |
| 18:34:24 | linuxstb | I agreed with you. |
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| 18:35:59 | loco | hm, maybe i'll try and write a patch for that one tomorrow. i just hope, my programming skills aren't gone at all. ;) |
| 18:39:32 | loco | hm, i just found the example title !^ "crap" in the recent version of tagtree.c. but the ! operator doesn't yet work, does it? |
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| 18:42:04 | evilnick | can anyone explain exactly how to flash my iRiver h140? I keep getting "incompatible bootloader" |
| 18:42:35 | Slasheri | evilnick: i am just writing a wiki page for this.. you need to upgrade bootloader first |
| 18:42:45 | Slasheri | http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/bootloader.iriver |
| 18:42:55 | Slasheri | here you can find a compatible and tested bootloader |
| 18:43:06 | evilnick | fantastic! |
| 18:43:40 | dropandho | i'd be curious to know how many folks download rockbox builds |
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| 18:43:53 | dropandho | do we have any ideas on that? |
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| 18:47:54 | AlexBepple | Would some of the fellow users be kind enough to grant me write privileges for the TWiki? |
| 18:49:47 | sharpe | AlexBepple: sure... |
| 18:50:23 | Slasheri | evilnick: did you got it working? |
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| 18:50:59 | evilnick | Slasheri: yes, thankd for the link to the bootloader.iriver |
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| 18:51:05 | evilnick | thankd = thanks |
| 18:51:07 | Slasheri | evilnick: nice :) |
| 18:51:23 | AlexBepple | @sharpe: Thank you. |
| 18:53:42 | sharpe | there you go... |
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| 19:46:53 | webguest03 | how do i control the horizontal control steps, i.e. how do i just get it to horizontally scroll one step to the right |
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| 19:48:07 | webguest03 | the horizontal scroll feature os pretty unuseable as it is now, if one can't incrementally scroll horizontally |
| 19:48:24 | Slasheri | here should be initial documentation about the flashing plugin http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing |
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| 19:53:35 | webguest03 | what on earth is the point of the horizontal scroll feature if the scroll steps aren't user slectable ? |
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| 20:27:46 | sharpe | ahah. i've got it. i know what i'm going to work on for rockbox. |
| 20:27:59 | dropandho | whats that? |
| 20:29:01 | sharpe | eh, a general compressed format viewer. like for zip, tar, bz2, gzip, etc. |
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| 20:32:29 | sharpe | although i'll doubt there will be much interest in it, i'll do it anyway... |
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| 20:46:19 | linuxstb | sharpe: What do you mean by viewer? What are you going to do with the files once you uncompress them? |
| 20:48:30 | sharpe | linuxstb: to tell you the truth, i have no idea. i was just somehow reminded of that one plugin i horribly made, thought that i might try for one that actually works. i also don't see if there would be a need for a plugin such as this, afterall, who really needs to open a zip on their player? |
| 20:49:25 | linuxstb | Exactly... |
| 20:49:51 | sharpe | well. back to thinking of an idea. |
| 20:50:21 | linuxstb | How about a C64 emulator? |
| 20:51:05 | sharpe | hmm. sounds familiar. |
| 20:52:40 | sharpe | or maybe some obscure computer used for mainly games that didn't have a keyboard to emulate... |
| 20:53:28 | linuxstb | Atari 2600? |
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| 20:54:25 | sharpe | haha. why did i never think of that? |
| 20:54:50 | linuxstb | You're too young... |
| 20:56:19 | sharpe | it's not that... it just never crossed my mind to emulate the atari... i have played one though... |
| 20:58:42 | linuxstb | Seems it has a 6507 CPU, which is a cut-down 6502, running at 1.19MHz. Shouldn't be troublesome to emulate. |
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| 21:00:38 | sharpe | yeah, i just read about that. also the graphical output shouldn't be hard at all, like the problems with speed i had with the C64 emulator, only like 160x192 pixels. |
| 21:01:05 | sharpe | which i could never fit the entire screen for the c64 on the ipod's screen anyway. |
| 21:03:36 | sharpe | or something like that. |
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| 21:07:46 | sharpe | the great question: port an emulator, or write it from scratch? |
| 21:08:37 | niskel | has anyone encountered a situation where rockbox freezes on an iPod and makes a loud continuous buzzing tone from the device itself? |
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| 21:09:09 | sharpe | i might have once. |
| 21:09:31 | niskel | I am getting it now (not from the official build though) |
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| 21:09:56 | sharpe | have you tried resetting your ipod? |
| 21:10:06 | niskel | yes |
| 21:10:16 | niskel | it happens every time I boot |
| 21:10:19 | niskel | gets to the menu |
| 21:10:25 | niskel | I press a button and it freezes |
| 21:10:31 | niskel | and makes the buzzing sound |
| 21:10:51 | linuxstb | Which unofficial build is it out of curiousity? |
| 21:10:56 | niskel | Senab |
| 21:11:12 | linuxstb | I've never heard of it before. |
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| 21:11:23 | niskel | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4342.0 |
| 21:11:32 | niskel | senab.co.uk/rockbox/">http://www.senab.co.uk/rockbox/ |
| 21:11:41 | linuxstb | Sorry, I mean I've never heard of your problem before - I know about Senab's build. |
| 21:11:45 | niskel | oh |
| 21:12:23 | linuxstb | Which ipod do you have? A hard disk one I assume? |
| 21:12:31 | niskel | 60GB 5G |
| 21:13:04 | linuxstb | If you reboot to the Apple firmware, is your ipod still working OK? |
| 21:13:17 | niskel | how do i do that? reboot with menu button down? |
| 21:13:39 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 21:13:53 | linuxstb | Have you just installed Rockbox, or do you never use the Apple firmware? |
| 21:14:12 | niskel | I put rockbox on the first day I got it |
| 21:14:18 | niskel | never had a use for apple firmware |
| 21:14:46 | niskel | Original firmware works fine |
| 21:14:58 | linuxstb | :) You could try resetting your Rockbox settings - turn the hold switch on as Rockbox is booting. |
| 21:15:49 | niskel | is that not the same as deleting the .rockbox folder? |
| 21:15:54 | sharpe | not at all. |
| 21:16:11 | linuxstb | No - Rockbox settings are stored in an otherwise unused disk sector between the partition table and the first partition. |
| 21:16:28 | linuxstb | (it's a long story.....) |
| 21:16:34 | sharpe | haha. |
| 21:16:40 | niskel | ... strange place for it |
| 21:16:46 | niskel | that fixed it |
| 21:16:48 | linuxstb | (it's a long story.....) |
| 21:17:13 | linuxstb | Sounds like it was probably the piezo patch in Senab's build going horribly wrong. |
| 21:17:25 | sharpe | that would be my guess... |
| 21:17:26 | niskel | okay |
| 21:17:34 | niskel | what is the piezo patch? |
| 21:17:39 | linuxstb | So perfectly harmless. |
| 21:18:00 | linuxstb | The piezo is the buzzer inside your ipod that the apple firmware uses to give you an audible click when using the wheel. |
| 21:18:13 | linuxstb | The piezo patch in Senab's build tries to do the same in Rockbox. |
| 21:18:15 | niskel | okay, yeah I was using that |
| 21:19:03 | linuxstb | It's always a good idea to reset your settings if you switch between official and unofficial Rockbox builds. |
| 21:19:38 | niskel | That is what I assumed I was doing when deleting the .rockbox folder |
| 21:19:39 | niskel | so yes |
| 21:19:41 | niskel | makes sense |
| 21:20:08 | niskel | also explained why I was always somehow accidentaly deleting all my settings |
| 21:20:16 | niskel | unplugging from usb with hold on |
| 21:21:02 | xorAxAx | heh |
| 21:21:12 | linuxstb | If you go into the Manage Settings menu, you can export your settings to a .cfg file. You can just click on that file to load them if they are ever lost. |
| 21:21:25 | linuxstb | (.cfg files are text files, and survive the settings format changing) |
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| 21:22:09 | niskel | one other question. is there a way in linux to have it say it is safe to unplug the device? |
| 21:22:21 | niskel | I always unmount and eject but it still says not to disconnect |
| 21:23:37 | linuxstb | I always just unmount and then pull the plug. I can't even see what's on the screen... |
| 21:23:41 | * | ender` yawns |
| 21:24:44 | sharpe | linuxstb: think i should just port an emulator? |
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| 21:32:49 | linuxstb | sharpe: I don't care how you do it, as long as you finish it this time :) |
| 21:33:18 | linuxstb | Are there any GPL'd emulators suitable for porting? |
| 21:35:00 | niskel | http://stella.sourceforge.net/ maybe |
| 21:35:26 | sharpe | haha, as long as i finish it... |
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| 21:38:23 | sharpe | stella is written in c++... |
| 21:38:35 | niskel | :\ |
| 21:38:37 | linuxstb | Ah, lots of fun then... |
| 21:38:46 | linuxstb | Too easy otherwise.# |
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| 21:40:18 | niskel | http://atari800.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:40:24 | niskel | for a few atari models |
| 21:40:27 | niskel | C and GPL |
| 21:41:01 | niskel | with some added ASM for fun :) |
| 21:42:12 | sharpe | ah, but no atari 2600. |
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| 21:45:14 | KaPooT | am i retarded, or is there no easy to find link to the skins page |
| 21:48:00 | KaPooT | well ... i found it |
| 21:48:03 | KaPooT | its certainly buried |
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| 21:57:27 | Hansmaulwurf | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing <−−- is eeprom flashing of rockbox save? |
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