| 00:00:02 | Rudy4Pez | Anyone know exactly what was done there? |
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| 00:09:52 | Senphet | does anyone know where I can find the .bmps used in the statusbar? |
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| 00:16:47 | safetydan | Senphet, ./apps/recorder/icons.c |
| 00:18:58 | Senphet | sorry, where is /apps? |
| 00:19:03 | suge | can rockbox read pdfs, or any non .txt ebooks? |
| 00:21:02 | linuxstb_ | suge: Not until someone writes such a plugin. |
| 00:21:44 | evilnick | *ahem* does anyone have a backup of a H140 flash? In my haste to check out the flashable .irver file, I didn't take a backup of mine so can't now access the iriver f/w... |
| 00:23:57 | safetydan | Senphet, that's in the rockbox source. |
| 00:24:09 | safetydan | Senphet, as far as I know, those images aren't actually separate bitmaps |
| 00:24:21 | Senphet | ahh, damn |
| 00:24:24 | Senphet | thanks for the help |
| 00:27:50 | linuxstb_ | evilnick: You don't need a backup - according to Slasheri's wiki page, you just download the .hex file from iriver, decrypt it to .bin (see the IriverBoot wiki page for links) and then flash that. |
| 00:28:22 | evilnick | linuxtb_: thanks (the part on how to decrypt was the bit I'd missed) |
| 00:28:37 | linuxstb_ | But if I was you, I would talk to Slasheri first... |
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| 01:56:59 | Senphet | don't suppose anyone knows the pixel dimensions for the rockbox_default font? |
| 01:58:29 | linuxstb | I think it's 6x8 |
| 01:59:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | If I were to guess, I'd say 6x7 or 6x8 |
| 01:59:30 | Senphet | thank you |
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| 02:45:59 | Moos | Hello ! |
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| 02:59:16 | Moos | apparently everyone sleeping, then night all |
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| 03:26:09 | daurn|laptop | yay? |
| 03:26:47 | JdGordon | yay?...? |
| 03:27:42 | daurn|laptop | i'm exicted |
| 03:27:43 | daurn|laptop | ! |
| 03:32:15 | dropandho | about wha? |
| 03:34:14 | daurn|laptop | i nearly have tv out working |
| 03:39:17 | JdGordon | kool |
| 03:39:34 | daurn|laptop | :P |
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| 03:45:54 | Virtualball | hey |
| 03:46:21 | Virtualball | I have a question |
| 03:46:42 | daurn|laptop | no you don't |
| 03:46:44 | daurn|laptop | its a statement |
| 03:47:03 | Virtualball | I put rockbox on my ipod again, last time was like 4 months ago, and i was just wondering |
| 03:47:20 | Virtualball | does anyone have a patched rockboy? |
| 03:47:39 | Virtualball | for iPod controls |
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| 03:48:19 | Virtualball | I tried to compile it myself but whenever I open a gbc rom with mine the screen just stays the off-blue color of the background. |
| 03:48:45 | daurn|laptop | tried a different rom? |
| 03:49:22 | Virtualball | yup |
| 03:49:43 | Virtualball | i know they work too, cuz of my emulator on my mac |
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| 04:39:29 | safetydan | linuxstb, you around? |
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| 04:40:54 | Jungti1234 | hello |
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| 04:48:16 | safetydan | No linuxstb. Hrm... anyone with an iPod Video want to try this? http://iocaine.org/wm8758_eq.diff |
| 04:48:27 | safetydan | Should give you control over your hardware equalizer. |
| 04:48:40 | safetydan | WARNING, not tested on actual hardware as I don't have an iPod |
| 04:49:19 | safetydan | If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. |
| 04:51:35 | BHSPitMonkey | hmm |
| 04:51:53 | BHSPitMonkey | if you built it... and my iPod was in working condition... I'd try it ;) |
| 04:52:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | Isn't that only for 5Gs safetydan? |
| 04:52:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oh, right, somehow read right over the word "video" |
| 04:53:29 | sharpe | safetydan: what are the chances it'd break into exactly two pieces? :) |
| 04:55:05 | safetydan | Paul_The_Nerd, yeah video/5g |
| 04:55:15 | safetydan | sharpe, slim to none. it's more likely to shatter :) |
| 04:55:22 | sharpe | haha. |
| 04:57:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Oooh |
| 04:57:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Can you make it explode? |
| 04:57:26 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has visions of iPodbombs. |
| 04:58:34 | * | JdGordon sends the FBI to Paul_The_Nerd's house.. :D |
| 04:59:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've been playing Dead Rising... I now look at everything and consider its zombie-slaying potential. |
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| 05:01:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, what's the context re the channel topic? |
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| 05:02:32 | JdGordon | our discussion about 12/24 hours clocks a few days ago |
| 05:02:57 | safetydan | Well if anyone does try the eq patch, let me know how it goes. Gotta go. |
| 05:02:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | And how much more than 24hrs is it? |
| 05:03:13 | JdGordon | no idea.. that was Bagder being funny.. |
| 05:03:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was hoping for a specific number. |
| 05:03:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | We could patch the Clock plugin and everything |
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| 05:17:45 | Febs | safetydan, I'll test your patch. |
| 05:31:13 | Febs | It won't compile. |
| 05:31:44 | Febs | I'm going to check out a clean copy of CVS and try again. |
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| 05:38:17 | Febs | safetydan, eq_menu.c:936: error: 'struct user_settings' has no member named 'eq_hardware_ba |
| 05:38:18 | Febs | nd1_cutoff' |
| 05:39:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Does his patch require that other patch first? I seem to recall there being one for the hardware EQ that simply used the old EQ screen. |
| 05:44:17 | Febs | Don't know. I guess we'll need to wait for Dan to come back. |
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| 06:07:51 | Moos | Hi guys ! |
| 06:08:18 | JdGordon | hey hey |
| 06:08:22 | Moos | is someone here using the bleeding edge build? |
| 06:09:46 | * | JdGordon partialluy... |
| 06:10:05 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wishes that the next iFP-799 patch would be a proper bootloader |
| 06:10:06 | Moos | can you try one thing please? |
| 06:10:23 | Moos | @JdGordon |
| 06:10:33 | JdGordon | shoot.. |
| 06:10:54 | Moos | h300 yes? |
| 06:11:16 | JdGordon | ye |
| 06:11:25 | Moos | start music playback, and look at HD activity |
| 06:11:47 | JdGordon | look for anything in particular? |
| 06:11:58 | Moos | or check the audiothread debug option and see |
| 06:12:07 | Moos | any kind of music |
| 06:12:28 | Moos | it's maybe relating to pcmbuffering |
| 06:13:02 | JdGordon | what am i lokgin for? |
| 06:13:33 | Moos | look at the HD icon during music please |
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| 06:13:50 | JdGordon | its as expected.. |
| 06:14:14 | Moos | let's the music play... |
| 06:14:32 | Moos | bleeding eedge build, right? |
| 06:15:16 | JdGordon | ye, with some patches which souldnt effect this |
| 06:16:10 | Moos | strange, here HD work quasi all time :( |
| 06:16:26 | JdGordon | brb |
| 06:16:35 | daurn|laptop | "I replaced the headlights in my car with strobe lights. Now it looks like I'm the only one moving." |
| 06:17:10 | Moos | I suspect Tomasz's last changes to have break the pcmbufering :( |
| 06:18:12 | Moos | the playback engine canot bufurize even 1 track totaly |
| 06:18:29 | JdGordon | tryed reseeting your setting? |
| 06:19:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | Moos: The changes he made are pretty small. |
| 06:21:43 | Moos | the playback/pcmbuffering is broken here with bleeding edge build, the thing is the last update I made have 4 days at least (vacancy in Morocco), and all was fine, don't know which changes... |
| 06:22:26 | * | Moos is going to check cvs logs |
| 06:22:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | You could try reverting Tomasz's changes. |
| 06:23:23 | Moos | but strange than you guys are using last cvs build and you didn't have this behaviour |
| 06:23:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm not using a latest CVS build |
| 06:23:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Let me just download one |
| 06:23:38 | Moos | ok |
| 06:25:12 | daurn|laptop | "The other day I was playing poker with Tarot cards. I got a full house and four people died." |
| 06:26:07 | Moos | is Slasheri awake by any luck? :) |
| 06:27:45 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah, there's definitely something odd with the rebuffering |
| 06:28:08 | Moos | :-( |
| 06:29:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Where is MEMORYSIZE defined, any idea? |
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| 06:29:42 | Moos | no idea, sorry |
| 06:30:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's probably something relating to all the #if MEMORYSIZE > 1 not resolving in the way he expected them to. |
| 06:30:46 | Moos | and it's 04:30 am here, don't have the courage to check which changes caused this... |
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| 06:31:05 | Moos | try and see... ;) |
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| 06:35:31 | kev_ | hi yall |
| 06:38:19 | Moos | Hi and bye :) |
| 06:38:25 | Moos | c you later |
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| 06:58:16 | * | safetydan is back |
| 06:58:25 | safetydan | must remember to compile stuff before offering it up for testing |
| 06:58:38 | daurn|laptop | .. |
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| 07:00:42 | Febs | safetydan, I can test your patch, but I'm going to bed pretty soon. |
| 07:00:44 | Jungti1234 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
| 07:00:47 | Jungti1234 | what's that? |
| 07:01:05 | Jungti1234 | graph2afcd84f898edf01807593f92d40cd2e.png manage 2.9 K 22 Jul 2006 - 17:48 UnknownUser |
| 07:01:45 | safetydan | Febs, if you can regrab it from http://iocaine.org/wm8758_eq.diff and retest that'd be cool. |
| 07:01:50 | safetydan | But don't let me keep you up. |
| 07:03:04 | Febs | That's OK, I want to try this! |
| 07:05:20 | Mikachu | safetydan: may i suggest generating patches with the option "-pud" to diff? |
| 07:05:38 | safetydan | Mikachu, whoops... meant to do that |
| 07:06:13 | safetydan | though, normally I use -buN |
| 07:06:42 | Mikachu | the important one is -u |
| 07:06:58 | ze | what about r? (or is it R?) |
| 07:07:06 | Mikachu | not needed with cvs |
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| 07:08:04 | safetydan | okay, new patch with the right command line |
| 07:08:09 | safetydan | usual place |
| 07:08:38 | Mikachu | is it the hw eq for 5g? |
| 07:08:45 | safetydan | Mikachu, yes |
| 07:08:59 | safetydan | but not having an iPod is kind of cramping my testing style |
| 07:09:04 | Mikachu | heh |
| 07:09:12 | Mikachu | can't test here, only nano |
| 07:09:36 | fatherfork | what are we talking about? |
| 07:09:42 | fatherfork | I have a 5g |
| 07:09:46 | Febs | I'm presently compiling the new patch (not the NEW new patch). |
| 07:09:51 | Mikachu | hardware equalizer |
| 07:09:54 | fatherfork | ah |
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| 07:10:10 | fatherfork | need a beta tester or something? |
| 07:10:15 | safetydan | Febs, cool, it's the same differences anyway, just a different format |
| 07:10:49 | safetydan | fatherfork, testers are welcome but should be warned that this is my first attempt at a hardware interface. And it's for hardware that I don't even own :) |
| 07:11:03 | * | Febs waits for cygwin to compile. |
| 07:11:42 | fatherfork | haha, I understand that, but i need a little more information about what you're actually doing |
| 07:11:56 | Febs | I'm doing a make zip now. Is there anything in particular that I'm going to be looking for when I try this? |
| 07:12:09 | safetydan | Febs, Sound Settings -> Equalizer -> Hardware Equalizer |
| 07:12:19 | safetydan | should give you full control over the available settings in the hardware |
| 07:12:48 | safetydan | fatherfork, if you want to test it, grab the patch from http://iocaine.org/wm8758_eq.diff compile and let me know if it works |
| 07:13:14 | safetydan | fatherfork, basically it's an interface to the hardware equalizer settings in the iPod 5G audio chipset |
| 07:13:39 | fatherfork | so it basically uses the same hardware the original iPod firmware uses? |
| 07:13:59 | fatherfork | ...making it actually work |
| 07:14:20 | safetydan | I've no idea if the original firmware made use of the hardware equalizer. |
| 07:14:31 | Mikachu | it would make very little sense to put it there if it didn't |
| 07:14:55 | fatherfork | ah, ok well you'll have to give me some time to familiarize myself with aplying and compliling patches |
| 07:15:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | "making it actually work"? |
| 07:15:51 | fatherfork | not exactly what I meant to mean to say...? |
| 07:16:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | I was wondering, because I thought the software equalizer we offered worked fine on 5g. Other than the skipping, but that's only slightly related |
| 07:16:26 | fatherfork | sure it works, it does what it says it does not, it's just not quite ready for actual full time use |
| 07:16:45 | fatherfork | does what it says it does* |
| 07:17:07 | safetydan | fatherfork, the hardware equalizer is substantially more limited than the software equalizer that Rockbox provides. |
| 07:17:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | fatherfork: The software equalizer is perfectly ready for fulltime use. |
| 07:17:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | The problems aren't in the equalizer itself |
| 07:17:34 | fatherfork | except for the skipping |
| 07:17:43 | fatherfork | right, it's in everything else that's going on |
| 07:17:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | So saying the equalizer isn't ready is wrong. |
| 07:17:55 | fatherfork | I understand that |
| 07:18:02 | fatherfork | fair enough |
| 07:18:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | The equalizer is fine. Everything else just needs work. ;) |
| 07:18:39 | safetydan | Anyone know what key to press to get the iPod simulator to actually save a config file? |
| 07:18:46 | fatherfork | I should learn all this stuff so I could help |
| 07:19:02 | Mikachu | safetydan: hold down select |
| 07:19:06 | fatherfork | I've got wps pretty much down, not that it's hard |
| 07:19:29 | safetydan | Mikachu, apparently KP5 is what I wanted which I think is button_play |
| 07:19:48 | Mikachu | that would be select then i think |
| 07:19:57 | Mikachu | if you run with the bitmap background it will have helpful text drawn skillfully on it |
| 07:20:13 | safetydan | Mikachu, actually you're right it is select, I just misread the define's |
| 07:20:39 | Febs | safetydan, the gain setting appears to be reversed. |
| 07:20:54 | Febs | Low shelf -12dB is full boost, 12db is full cut. |
| 07:21:06 | safetydan | cool, that's easy enough to fix |
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| 07:21:46 | safetydan | and of course, rereading the data sheet, that's exactly what it says |
| 07:22:22 | Febs | I assume these increments for the cutoff frequency are limited by the hardware? |
| 07:22:28 | safetydan | yup |
| 07:22:30 | fatherfork | Paul_the_nerd: about the built in equalizer; I've just not minamalist enought to use the default wps, which would help I'm sure |
| 07:22:32 | safetydan | four choice per band |
| 07:22:41 | Febs | I see what you mean about it being much more limited than the software EQ. |
| 07:22:43 | safetydan | four choices even |
| 07:22:47 | Mikachu | fatherfork: the default wps is the worst due to the peakmeters actually |
| 07:22:52 | safetydan | and the bandwidth is either wide or narrow |
| 07:22:56 | safetydan | with no definition of what that means |
| 07:22:57 | fatherfork | oh I forgot about that |
| 07:23:13 | fatherfork | crap |
| 07:25:49 | fatherfork | I could just take it out |
| 07:26:06 | Paul_The_Nerd | 's what I usually do. |
| 07:26:20 | safetydan | Febs, any popping noises when you change the eq settings? |
| 07:26:20 | Febs | The shelving filters work, but the peaking filters don't seem to be having any effect. |
| 07:26:32 | Febs | No popping noises. |
| 07:26:56 | Febs | Glitchiness when I scroll the gain up or down, but I think that is the usual scrolling glitch. |
| 07:27:26 | JdGordon | Paul_The_Nerd: are the forums ever going to be rearanged? |
| 07:27:27 | safetydan | It's interesting that it works at all as the datasheet says I should be disabling the adc/dac when I turn the eq on or off |
| 07:27:36 | fatherfork | what app do you guys use to compile this stuff? |
| 07:28:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | JdGordon: At some point, yes, I think they will. It's not gonna be fun though. But first I'd like to try to get the software updated a little bit. |
| 07:29:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | And maybe figure out why it's not sending me emails any more. |
| 07:29:05 | JdGordon | ok |
| 07:29:06 | safetydan | fatherfork, start here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevelopmentGuide |
| 07:29:49 | fatherfork | thanks |
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| 07:31:34 | safetydan | Febs, yeah silly mistake on my part, peak filters won't work at the moment |
| 07:31:44 | safetydan | or wait... |
| 07:31:45 | Febs | Good, I'm not going deaf. |
| 07:31:46 | safetydan | ignore that |
| 07:31:50 | safetydan | hrmm... |
| 07:32:01 | safetydan | no, peak filters should work |
| 07:32:29 | Febs | Both parameters of the shelving filters work as I'd expect them to, but I'm not hearing anything with the peaking filters. |
| 07:32:53 | safetydan | the datasheet has a graph of the peak filter effect. |
| 07:32:56 | safetydan | it's pretty broad |
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| 07:35:19 | Febs | Nope, I just tried -12dB and 12dB at 1.1kHz with the "narrow" filter, and there's no audible effect. |
| 07:36:30 | safetydan | okay, I'll see what I can dig up |
| 07:36:44 | safetydan | so the shelving filters work, peak filters don't. Anything else? |
| 07:37:08 | safetydan | note that the setting won't kick in until you exit the menu |
| 07:37:17 | Febs | Right. Got that. |
| 07:37:18 | safetydan | (i.e. the gain won't take affect until you exit the gain menu) |
| 07:38:02 | Febs | Just to double check, I just tried all three peaking filters at +12dB (which I guess is really -12dB right now) and the "wide" setting, and then toggled the hardware EQ setting on and off. |
| 07:38:04 | Febs | No difference. |
| 07:39:19 | safetydan | cool |
| 07:39:32 | safetydan | well, not cool, but certainly seems like there's a problem |
| 07:39:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's cool to know that something's wrong. |
| 07:40:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 07:40:32 | fatherfork | I'm reading about compiling and I just don't get it. Maybe learning this is for sometime when I'm not pulling an all-nighter. |
| 07:41:05 | safetydan | anyway, I have to go away again. Thanks for testing so far Febs. I'll see what another dev with iPod has to say about the peak filters. |
| 07:41:38 | Febs | No problem. I'll be around tomorrow and I'm happy to test further. |
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| 08:42:14 | secleinteer | hey, has any1 else noticed some serious problems with today's build for the ipod photo? |
| 08:42:29 | JdGordon | like what? |
| 08:42:30 | secleinteer | my font/wps settings arent beign saved |
| 08:42:40 | secleinteer | songs are freezing up easily |
| 08:42:49 | secleinteer | i didn't have any of these problems with the 11th's build |
| 08:43:02 | fatherfork | mine didn't load the setting I had once today |
| 08:43:07 | fatherfork | 5G |
| 08:43:16 | fatherfork | it's been fine ever other time though |
| 08:43:20 | fatherfork | every |
| 08:43:46 | secleinteer | well, i think i'll go back to the 11th's build until a few days have passed |
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| 09:32:28 | Ribs | swap your headphones |
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| 09:34:23 | _Veseliq_ | http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2461/171732261dt.jpg |
| 09:34:52 | daurn|laptop | wtf |
| 09:34:56 | daurn|laptop | is red eye off? |
| 09:34:57 | daurn|laptop | ;) |
| 09:35:28 | daurn|laptop | Ribs: lol |
| 09:35:53 | Ribs | how old is the kid with the cigerette |
| 09:35:55 | Ribs | like, 12? |
| 09:36:04 | daurn|laptop | Bunkey: you've got the ears around the wrong way :P |
| 09:36:10 | daurn|laptop | i'd say 10 |
| 09:36:15 | _Veseliq_ | ^^ |
| 09:36:17 | _Veseliq_ | rofl rofl |
| 09:36:23 | _Veseliq_ | the fat one ownz |
| 09:36:48 | Ribs | inbreeding is a terrible thing |
| 09:36:52 | Ribs | </bitch> |
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| 10:40:45 | * | linuxstb looks at the xvidcore library, and it's 10 times the size of libmpeg2... |
| 10:43:55 | BHSPitMonkey | what's mp4 (the variation the iPod Video firmware uses) look like? |
| 10:44:02 | BHSPitMonkey | @ linuxstb |
| 10:44:21 | markun | BHSPitMonkey: h264? |
| 10:45:47 | BHSPitMonkey | nah, wouldn't that be harder? |
| 10:46:28 | BHSPitMonkey | 5G's play both h.264 and MPEG-4 |
| 10:47:54 | linuxstb | The Broadcom chip inside a 5g plays h.264 - that's different.... |
| 10:48:40 | linuxstb | The video player I'm working on is generic for all Rockbox targets (with colour LCDs), so it's nothing to do with the Broadcom chip. |
| 10:49:39 | BHSPitMonkey | I know you can't use the chip, but I wonder what the format looks like from your approach. |
| 10:49:52 | Bunkey | <daurn|laptop> Bunkey: you've got the ears around the wrong way :P <−−no, i play it once on rockbox and on original fw, rockbox reversed channel |
| 10:50:48 | BHSPitMonkey | Bunkey, I think there's a setting somewhere. |
| 10:51:46 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: The quality is excellent to my eyes - encoding at around 450kbps. |
| 10:52:40 | BHSPitMonkey | the nature of my question is more about how well it could potentially be decoded, in the way you are doing them now. |
| 10:52:53 | linuxstb | By "well" you mean "fast"? |
| 10:52:58 | BHSPitMonkey | (without Broadcom acceleration) |
| 10:53:06 | BHSPitMonkey | speed is a factor, yes |
| 10:53:35 | linuxstb | What other factors are there? |
| 10:55:32 | markun | image quality, size, speed |
| 10:55:59 | BHSPitMonkey | there you go. :P |
| 10:56:29 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm just wondering if it seems likely that I would be able to switch between firmwares and watch the same files |
| 10:56:39 | markun | BHSPitMonkey: no |
| 10:56:55 | BHSPitMonkey | k |
| 10:57:41 | BHSPitMonkey | in that case, how much monetary persuasion would you figure Broadcom needs to open up their specs on that chip? |
| 10:57:47 | BHSPitMonkey | :P |
| 10:57:51 | linuxstb | The 5g is the ipod least likely to get useful video playback from mpegplayer - because of the size of the LCD. |
| 10:58:14 | BHSPitMonkey | yeah... big, slow, clumsy 5G :'( |
| 10:58:43 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: I also have to say that the Broadcom chip isn't that interesting to me - Rockbox works on many players, and only one has a Broadcom chip. And Apple will probably not be using it in any future ipods. |
| 10:59:34 | linuxstb | It's more useful for targets with small LCDs (such as the Nano), or future Rockbox targets with large LCDs but fast main CPUs such as the Toshiba Gigabeat. |
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| 11:00:24 | BHSPitMonkey | so, you don't think that rockbox should ever be a viable "replacement" firmware for the 5G? or that you would sooner leave such development to somebody else |
| 11:00:32 | JdGordon | hey linuxstb, i know you like the idea of using a slider for the integer settings, but i got them working in the list properly, and imo adding a sepearet widget for the int settings would just increase code size... if you want to try it its fs#5795 |
| 11:01:38 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: I'm just speaking personally. Many people buy their 5gs only for audio playback (it's the only large capacity ipod Apple sell), and don't care about video. |
| 11:02:29 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: But I included support for the Broadcom chip in the ipod port "to-do" list here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus |
| 11:04:22 | BHSPitMonkey | well, I don't really see why someone would spend on a car just to listen to its stereo in the driveway... but I guess that's some people's choice. |
| 11:04:37 | safetydan | linuxstb, want to try/review a patch for me? http://iocaine.org/wm8758_eq.diff |
| 11:06:56 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: As I say, there's no choice - you want to buy an ipod, you have to get a 5g. |
| 11:07:09 | BHSPitMonkey | not really |
| 11:07:34 | BHSPitMonkey | I can walk into CompUSA and pick up a 4G, color or not |
| 11:07:37 | JdGordon | yes really.. you can only get the nano or the video.. |
| 11:07:44 | JdGordon | out here anyway.. |
| 11:07:52 | linuxstb | The 5g is widely reported to have much better sound quality than the 4g. |
| 11:08:03 | linuxstb | My ears back that up. |
| 11:08:09 | linuxstb | (I have both a 5g and a Photo) |
| 11:08:16 | BHSPitMonkey | it's also widely reported to mess up headphones... and mine back THAT up :P |
| 11:08:31 | BHSPitMonkey | and I can't really tell that kind of thing |
| 11:08:46 | BHSPitMonkey | my ear is for music, not audio, if that makes sense |
| 11:09:13 | markun | BHSPitMonkey: can't you work on the broadcom video support? |
| 11:09:22 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
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| 11:10:12 | markun | perhaps it's possible to call the video playback routine directly from the OF.. |
| 11:10:22 | BHSPitMonkey | if that was a standard request to a user feature demand, save it... I never claimed someone needed to work on it, I just reacted to linuxstb say "Who cares about the 5G's features" pretty much |
| 11:10:48 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: I never said that - I just said I didn't care, and that there are also some other people like me who only ever want to use their 5g for audio. |
| 11:11:21 | linuxstb | Of course I know that there are people who bought their 5gs for video. |
| 11:11:35 | BHSPitMonkey | that's why I switched from a nano. |
| 11:12:48 | markun | BHSPitMonkey: maybe the ipodlinux guys will figure it out |
| 11:12:52 | BHSPitMonkey | heh |
| 11:12:56 | BHSPitMonkey | maybe |
| 11:13:24 | BHSPitMonkey | but most of the developments have been stirred up over here lately |
| 11:13:39 | BHSPitMonkey | there's a definite concentration on software over there |
| 11:14:26 | linuxstb | There's not much low-level development here either... |
| 11:14:31 | BHSPitMonkey | although the interest for figuring out all of the iPod's secrets is higher over there, as opposed to "let's just get what we want out of this" over here |
| 11:15:13 | linuxstb | I would say the main interest in the hardware "over here" is in increasing battery life. |
| 11:15:36 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm not going to get into a project comparison again, so I'll leave it there |
| 11:16:32 | BHSPitMonkey | oranges and grapefruit... |
| 11:16:33 | linuxstb | I wasn't going there either. Just saying what Rockbox people are likely to be working on. |
| 11:16:58 | BHSPitMonkey | yep- whetever that person wants the most. |
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| 11:18:20 | BHSPitMonkey | the ironic, selfish nature of all open-source |
| 11:20:15 | JdGordon | rockbox has no problems with q5 ogg on the h300 ye? |
| 11:20:35 | BHSPitMonkey | well, gnite hackers |
| 11:20:37 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Not AFAIK. |
| 11:20:43 | JdGordon | k |
| 11:20:44 | markun | BHSPitMonkey: good night |
| 11:20:45 | BHSPitMonkey | (and non-hackers, too) |
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| 11:31:43 | Hideo_Kuze | hi guys, not sure if this is wiki spam, somebody testing your system or just a mistake someone made, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome , bottom of the page |
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| 11:33:35 | Hideo_Kuze | uh oh, "UnknownUser is a reserved name in TWiki. If the UnknownUser appears, it is probably because author information for a topic could not be recovered, perhaps because a topic has been modified by a non-TWiki tool." |
| 11:33:44 | Hideo_Kuze | does that mean that the server is rooted? |
| 11:34:00 | markun | Hideo_Kuze: strange |
| 11:34:23 | Hideo_Kuze | markun: yeah |
| 11:36:17 | Owlie | Can someone tell me whether they think iPods are good or not |
| 11:36:22 | Owlie | and if not what's better? |
| 11:36:38 | Owlie | If your looking at getting something 20GB+ |
| 11:36:53 | anrdewmel | @owlie, it depends on what features you want, and how much you can spend |
| 11:37:08 | Owlie | mainly the amount of storage on it |
| 11:37:19 | Owlie | Not sure about anything else with them. |
| 11:37:40 | Owlie | and i have vouchers to use at Harvey norman >.< Not sure what i could or should buy |
| 11:37:47 | Owlie | I've only looked at iPods so far. |
| 11:37:48 | anrdewmel | well I think all (or nearly all) harddrive based daps use the same toshiba hard drive |
| 11:38:27 | anrdewmel | if you want to be able to record, or to be able to transfer photos from a digital camera on the go, then the iaudio might be what you want |
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| 11:38:49 | anrdewmel | if small size for the capacity is what you want, then the 5g video ipods are hard to go by |
| 11:39:07 | Owlie | Yeah |
| 11:39:23 | Owlie | i just want something small, with large capacity that's going to last a while. |
| 11:39:39 | Owlie | i bouht an mp3 player when they first came out, and mine was horrible. |
| 11:40:11 | anrdewmel | i expect my video ipod to last about 2 years....... |
| 11:40:24 | Owlie | it's only 5GB though right? |
| 11:40:41 | anrdewmel | no, it is 60 gb |
| 11:40:52 | Owlie | O.O wow |
| 11:41:07 | Owlie | I thought you said 5GB, must have read wrong somewhere |
| 11:41:11 | Owlie | How much was it? |
| 11:41:15 | anrdewmel | i had a 20 gbi iRiver, but its battery died, and it was full. |
| 11:41:26 | anrdewmel | i paid AUD$560 from Dick Smiths |
| 11:41:35 | Owlie | nice |
| 11:41:50 | Owlie | ooh, Your australian too? |
| 11:42:17 | anrdewmel | yep, i only put the dick smiths as I noticed you mentioned hardly normal |
| 11:42:43 | Owlie | hehe |
| 11:42:48 | Owlie | we have a dick smiths in town |
| 11:43:05 | Owlie | what part of australia are you from? (I'm from northern NSW, Lismore) |
| 11:43:05 | anrdewmel | they might be doing them for less than 560 now. |
| 11:43:20 | Owlie | pity my vouchers are only for harvey norman =( |
| 11:43:23 | anrdewmel | i am currently in tassy. but have lived in many places. i like lismore |
| 11:43:34 | Owlie | ooh, you've been here? Wow =D |
| 11:44:02 | anrdewmel | have peobably been to lismore about 15 times? |
| 11:45:02 | Owlie | =P |
| 11:45:11 | anrdewmel | i was hoping to find out how the video implementation is coming along for the ipods and if sound is around the corner, or a litte further off? |
| 11:45:57 | Owlie | Yeah, sadly i'm not one that knows alot |
| 11:46:08 | Owlie | Friend gave me the website to rockbox about 30minutes abou |
| 11:46:10 | Owlie | ago* |
| 11:46:25 | Owlie | then i noticed the IRC channel and came for infomation ^-^ |
| 11:46:57 | anrdewmel | i would not have bought an ipod without rockbox. without rockbox you need a program called itunes to put music onto your ipod and there are a number of steps you need to go through to get it off. |
| 11:47:17 | anrdewmel | i prefer to be able to just plug it in, drag and drop the music on or off it, and then play it. |
| 11:47:29 | Owlie | Yeah |
| 11:47:33 | Owlie | that was my main concern |
| 11:47:34 | anrdewmel | rockbox is the best way to do that on an iPod |
| 11:47:43 | Owlie | that and whether it was worth the money, or whether there was something better |
| 11:48:05 | Owlie | Other then ipods, what else is good for a decent music collection =P? |
| 11:48:25 | linuxstb | anrdewmel: All ipods have two ARM CPU cores, so the first thing to do is to add the infrastructure into Rockbox to use the second CPU - currently it only uses one. Once that's done, I plan to try to move video decoding to the second CPU, and start using the first CPU for audio playback. |
| 11:48:33 | anrdewmel | the only other new player worth the money, imo, is the iAudio X5. |
| 11:49:21 | Owlie | still something to do with apple isnt it though |
| 11:49:36 | Owlie | mm what about the Creative mp3 Players |
| 11:49:40 | Owlie | are they okay? |
| 11:49:41 | anrdewmel | thanks linuxstb :) i am a patient man. it is really more from interest. I dont use my dap for video, i prefer to just listen to music or lectures :) |
| 11:50:12 | anrdewmel | no, iAudio is a different company. the creative players are not bad, but I dont know a lot about them. |
| 11:50:25 | Owlie | ooh i see =O |
| 11:50:47 | anrdewmel | secondhand iRiver H320 or H340 are good, if you can find them. But their batteries will need to be replaced soon or now |
| 11:51:12 | Owlie | =( |
| 11:51:24 | Owlie | so i guess iPods are the best |
| 11:51:47 | anrdewmel | will the iaudio is as good, but a little bigger as it offers a couple of extra features. |
| 11:51:47 | Owlie | I'm going to the snow at jindgerbine on saturday next weekend, tomorrow's my only shopping chance |
| 11:51:59 | markun | anrdewmel: ipod 1/2g batteries for the irivers are very cheap |
| 11:52:00 | Owlie | =O |
| 11:52:02 | anrdewmel | have you ripped all your music yet? |
| 11:52:18 | Owlie | i ripped my CDs over the last week |
| 11:52:24 | anrdewmel | @markun, I agree, they are cheap and seem easy to put in. |
| 11:52:53 | anrdewmel | I didnt as I needed a bigger drive as well and thought 60 gb might hold the size chase at bay for a little longer :) |
| 11:53:00 | linuxstb | safetydan: I'm just about to try your EQ patch now. Have you fixed any of the problems Febs reported? |
| 11:53:02 | markun | my iriver has a 2200mAh (claimed) battery for over a year and I'm very happy with it |
| 11:53:09 | anrdewmel | @owlie, what did you rip them with and to? |
| 11:54:23 | Owlie | my computer o.o |
| 11:54:45 | Owlie | ooh i ripped them with "Free rip" |
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| 11:54:55 | Owlie | was the first thing i found and it worked |
| 11:54:57 | anrdewmel | what program, and what codec and bitrate |
| 11:55:01 | Owlie | so long as it didnt kill my albums |
| 11:55:05 | anrdewmel | ahhh, freerip.... |
| 11:55:08 | Owlie | 128 i think |
| 11:55:11 | anrdewmel | you might want to have a look at this.... |
| 11:55:17 | anrdewmel | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=14081 |
| 11:55:33 | anrdewmel | i used freerip when i first started as well. but eac is much much bettter. |
| 11:55:48 | anrdewmel | and go for vbr 0v2 |
| 11:55:56 | anrdewmel | vbr -v2 |
| 11:56:27 | Owlie | ooh i see |
| 11:56:28 | Owlie | thanks |
| 11:56:39 | Owlie | well, so long as it didnt kill my favourite CDs i was happy |
| 11:56:58 | safetydan | linuxstb, not the peak filter thing no. I can't see what's wrong. |
| 11:57:18 | safetydan | I need to work on simplifying the eq ui code a bit |
| 11:57:22 | anrdewmel | It wont. if you stick with cheap earbuds it isnt too much of a problem but if you have anything like decent headphones you will hear artifacts |
| 11:57:53 | safetydan | linuxstb, oh and that patch will still have the gain inverted. I've only fixed that locally |
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| 12:02:53 | linuxstb | safetydan: Could you upload your latest patch? I can try and work out what's wrong with the peak filters. |
| 12:03:28 | linuxstb | (or just tell me what you did for the gain if it's a simple fix) |
| 12:04:09 | safetydan | linuxstb, just change EQ_HARDWARE_GAIN_STEP to be -1 instead of 1 |
| 12:04:18 | safetydan | it's around line 854 of eq_menu.c |
| 12:04:28 | safetydan | (line number may not be accurate due to local changes) |
| 12:05:31 | linuxstb | OK, I'll do that. |
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| 12:07:36 | safetydan | linuxstb, actually, there's a new version of the patch uploaded as there was one other change to fix the inverted gain thing |
| 12:08:25 | linuxstb | Your new patch is 24390 bytes? |
| 12:08:50 | safetydan | yes |
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| 12:10:36 | safetydan | The other thing it doesn't do is disable the ADCs/DACs before enabling the EQ. The datasheet says they "must be disabled" before changing. |
| 12:12:43 | linuxstb | safetydan: Is that the EQ3DMODE bit? Or something else? |
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| 12:13:37 | safetydan | linuxstb, yup. The exact quote from page 64 if "Note: The ADCs and DACs must be disabled before changing the EQ3DMODE bit." |
| 12:14:16 | linuxstb | I don't think we need to change it - all that does is switch the EQ between the ADC or DAC. The default (i.e. what's happening today) is that the EQ is applied to the DAC path. |
| 12:15:12 | linuxstb | i.e. the default behaviour is for the EQ to be applied to the DAC path, but all the EQ settings default to a gain of 0dB. |
| 12:15:35 | safetydan | wow, I've been totally misreading that part for the past day |
| 12:15:53 | linuxstb | I misread it the first time, but read it again yesterday. |
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| 12:18:01 | linuxstb | Anyway, about to test now. Did you say I have to leave the settings screen for the changes to be applied? |
| 12:18:15 | safetydan | You just have to leave the individual setting screen |
| 12:18:22 | safetydan | i.e. back out of the gain screen and the setting is applied |
| 12:18:32 | linuxstb | OK, so it's a set of 5 screns? |
| 12:18:37 | linuxstb | ^screens |
| 12:18:41 | safetydan | pretty much |
| 12:18:57 | safetydan | It works in the simulator if you want to look at it first |
| 12:20:57 | linuxstb | I'm testing on my 5g now. The Gain settings seems badly broken. It goes in the wrong direction, and there seems no upper limit... I've gone up to 343dB, and can't make it go back down. |
| 12:21:08 | safetydan | okay... that doesn't seem right |
| 12:22:22 | safetydan | yeah okay that's broken |
| 12:23:24 | safetydan | linuxstb, quick fix, change EQ_HARDWARE_GAIN_STEP to 1 again |
| 12:23:45 | linuxstb | Why don't you just keep the gain how you had it originally, and convert the gain from -12 to +12 to the register value in the driver itself. |
| 12:25:12 | linuxstb | i.e. reg |= (12-gain) where gain is -12 to +12 |
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| 12:25:52 | safetydan | Well, I do that to show the value to the user. It does work if the step size is +1 |
| 12:27:40 | linuxstb | Why is GAIN_MIN 0 and GAIN_MAX 24, instead of -12 and +12? |
| 12:28:31 | safetydan | because that's the value range of the chip |
| 12:28:43 | safetydan | when the value is displayed to the user, it's converted to +/- 12 dB |
| 12:29:10 | linuxstb | I would say the value range for the hardware is -12 to +12, it's the register values that are in the range 0 to 24. |
| 12:29:54 | linuxstb | But that's easily converted with reg |= (12-gain) |
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| 12:30:26 | linuxstb | Wouldn't that simplify your code? |
| 12:30:29 | safetydan | okay yeah that makes sense. Also means the config files will be more easily readable |
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| 12:45:53 | preglow | so, how's the hardware eq sound? |
| 12:47:52 | safetydan | okay, new patch version, http://iocaine.org/wm8758_eq.diff 23610 bytes |
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| 12:48:25 | safetydan | fixes the gain issue and disables the equalizer by setting the gain to 0 for all bands |
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| 13:03:34 | safetydan | preglow, Febs tried it out but didn't have any comments about quality. Possibly because the peak filters aren't working. Shelf filters did the job though. |
| 13:08:19 | preglow | cool |
| 13:09:10 | linuxstb | safetydan: I can't test now, I'm about to walk out of the door. But I'll try it in a couple of hours when I get back. |
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| 13:09:33 | safetydan | linuxstb, righto |
| 13:09:42 | linuxstb | bbl. |
| 13:09:49 | safetydan | sorry about the mess earlier. Must learn to test compile first. |
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| 13:39:41 | safetydan | ah well sleep time |
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| 14:09:35 | loco | hi, i've got a possibly stupid c question. is there a way to get a substring out of a string, let's say the 3rd to the 5th characters for example? |
| 14:09:46 | daurnimator | of course |
| 14:09:53 | daurnimator | - go google for a bit |
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| 14:12:23 | JdGordon | loco: something like &string[index] with give the substring |
| 14:12:51 | loco | oh, great, thanks a lot. |
| 14:13:00 | petur | JdGordon: that will give you index to end of string |
| 14:13:08 | petur | not n to m |
| 14:13:24 | loco | yeah, that's perfect. |
| 14:14:15 | JdGordon | petur: i took that to be what he wanted... |
| 14:15:13 | petur | no, he asked for taking a substring, like 3rd to 5th char. Yours will work if the sting is only 5 chars long ;) |
| 14:15:20 | loco | yes, indeed, it is. i should have formulated it unambiguously. |
| 14:16:23 | JdGordon | ok, well u need to then set the char after the last one you want to '\0' |
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| 14:17:23 | loco | no, the the &string[index] way was exactly what i looked for. |
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| 14:17:37 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:17:56 | * | petur creeps back under his rock |
| 14:18:02 | loco | i want to implement the clause_ends_with for tagcache. |
| 14:18:14 | loco | i hope slasheri doesn't mind. ;) |
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| 14:19:43 | JdGordon | <Slasheri> Im gonna start doing clause_ends_with for TC later in the week... take this as a warning that I will personally kill anyone who attempts it before im finished!... |
| 14:19:48 | JdGordon | from earlier today... |
| 14:20:01 | loco | oops... |
| 14:20:05 | JdGordon | :D |
| 14:20:10 | * | JdGordon is such a funny bugger |
| 14:20:30 | XavierGr | TC? |
| 14:20:31 | loco | gnaa.. i knew, i searched the logs... |
| 14:20:42 | petur | Tag Cache |
| 14:20:47 | XavierGr | clause_ends_with? |
| 14:21:05 | JdGordon | usually a full stop... :p |
| 14:21:14 | XavierGr | heh sorry for the stupid questions.... |
| 14:21:25 | * | JdGordon has had too much sugar today |
| 14:21:50 | loco | was there coffee in it at least? ;) |
| 14:22:03 | JdGordon | i dont drink coffeee |
| 14:22:26 | loco | oh. |
| 14:22:53 | Slasheri | loco: oh, that would be great if you do :) |
| 14:22:56 | Slasheri | JdGordon: haha :D |
| 14:23:08 | loco | yeah, i love "makes pointer from integer without a cast" warnings. ;) |
| 14:23:27 | loco | Slasheri: i'll try at least. |
| 14:25:01 | loco | Slasheri: i also tried to implement a not operator, but it seems, i didn't do it the way you intended it to be done. |
| 14:25:39 | Slasheri | loco: hmm, how did you try to do it? did you got it working? |
| 14:26:01 | Slasheri | i haven't had yet time to think about how to implement it |
| 14:26:15 | loco | slasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5805 |
| 14:27:06 | Slasheri | loco: oh, that looks great |
| 14:27:33 | Slasheri | i will commit that |
| 14:27:37 | loco | but i saw the enum modifier thing, so i thought, you'd want to do it that way. |
| 14:27:44 | loco | really? cool. :D |
| 14:27:56 | JdGordon | 3 different ways for doing not? |
| 14:28:17 | Slasheri | yes, never mind that.. it just was there as a reminder to start working with the not operator one day |
| 14:28:31 | Slasheri | but that implementation looks fine, maybe even better. at least it's clean |
| 14:28:43 | loco | well, it's simple. ;) |
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| 14:33:41 | Slasheri | loco: committed |
| 14:33:55 | loco | great |
| 14:34:09 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 14:49:29 | * | JdGordon is bored |
| 14:50:07 | loco | cool, then explain me, why i don't seem to be able to use the logf function. ;) |
| 14:50:23 | JdGordon | because u need to enable it in configure |
| 14:50:30 | Slasheri | loco: hmm, do you have iriver player? |
| 14:50:32 | loco | i already have |
| 14:50:49 | loco | yes, but i'm talking about the simulator right now. |
| 14:50:58 | JdGordon | in the sim use DEBUGF |
| 14:51:09 | Slasheri | ah, it might not work with simulator as well.. |
| 14:51:11 | loco | (whose build system i don't understand anyway ;) ) |
| 14:51:20 | Slasheri | i am not sure if the debug menu includes the logf/logfdump options |
| 14:51:33 | Slasheri | but the simulator remote display should work fine |
| 14:51:33 | loco | there is no debug menu... |
| 14:51:40 | Slasheri | however, you can use printf from simulator |
| 14:51:42 | JdGordon | if your in the sim DEBUGF is fine, as it outputs to stdout |
| 14:51:54 | loco | ok, i'll try that. thx |
| 14:58:52 | loco | hmm... warning: implicit declaration of function ‘DEBUGF’ |
| 14:59:44 | JdGordon | ignore it |
| 14:59:49 | JdGordon | or #include "debug.h" |
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| 15:00:29 | loco | thx. sorry for the stupid questions. |
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| 15:00:57 | JdGordon | nono... rememebr there are no stupid quesions.... |
| 15:01:20 | loco | but i've already got another one. ;) when working with the sim, after having changed code, what am i supposed to do in the simulator directore? just a make install? |
| 15:01:24 | JdGordon | .. just stupid people |
| 15:01:25 | JdGordon | :D |
| 15:02:02 | JdGordon | if your just playing in the apps/ foilder then u dont need to do anything except make |
| 15:02:20 | JdGordon | if your playgin in a plugin or codec u need to opy it manually into archox/.rockbox./... |
| 15:02:38 | loco | oh, make, not make install. |
| 15:02:43 | JdGordon | ye |
| 15:02:49 | loco | confusing. ;) |
| 15:03:55 | loco | omg... apropos "stupid people", the logf-thing didn't work, because i put it after the return statement... shame on me... |
| 15:04:44 | JdGordon | hahaha |
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| 15:05:33 | loco | oh, before the return, it works fine... damn... ;) so, still bored? |
| 15:06:09 | JdGordon | yup |
| 15:06:42 | loco | hmm. go program something. ;) |
| 15:06:53 | JdGordon | ye, but thats the problem.. what? |
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| 15:07:17 | loco | hmm, some solution for the tagnavi.config overwriting problem. |
| 15:07:25 | juxtap | how's the slow-me-down feature coming? :p |
| 15:07:43 | JdGordon | already done |
| 15:08:03 | JdGordon | patch has been on fs for ages |
| 15:08:19 | JdGordon | that waas to loco... |
| 15:08:27 | loco | oh, ok. |
| 15:08:44 | JdGordon | just waiting for Slasheri to commit it.. hint hint.. nudge nudge.... :p |
| 15:08:49 | loco | eer... should ends_with also be implemented for numeric values? |
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| 15:11:42 | * | JdGordon 's maths is off somewhere :'( |
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| 15:11:57 | Slasheri | loco: hmm, probably not |
| 15:12:13 | loco | oh, i hoped you'd say that. |
| 15:12:27 | Slasheri | at least i can't think any use for that |
| 15:12:37 | loco | well, then i've got the patch done. |
| 15:12:44 | Slasheri | hehe :D |
| 15:12:54 | loco | yeah, but we could do it just because we CAN. ;) |
| 15:13:20 | loco | should i put it on fs? |
| 15:13:45 | Slasheri | yes, or you can also dcc it for me |
| 15:13:50 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5456 ... |
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| 15:14:27 | loco | Slasheri: err. i can... what? ;) |
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| 15:14:53 | Slasheri | loco: use irc dcc send feature to send the file :) |
| 15:16:34 | loco | doesn't work. fs. |
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| 15:17:34 | loco | Slasheri: done: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5806 |
| 15:17:52 | Slasheri | loco: thanks, i will check that soon |
| 15:18:05 | loco | i hope this one won't segfault anyhow... |
| 15:18:11 | Slasheri | watching macgyver from tv first ;) |
| 15:18:17 | loco | lol |
| 15:18:23 | loco | hf |
| 15:19:00 | loco | gfc |
| 15:19:11 | Mikachu | tma |
| 15:22:06 | tucoz | Anyone know why neither firefox or ie lets me download the bootloader.iriver file from the iriverflashing wiki? |
| 15:22:50 | Mikachu | how are they not letting you? |
| 15:22:54 | tucoz | firefox opens up the file in the browser, and ie only creates a file with size 30 instead of 60 |
| 15:22:55 | tucoz | kb |
| 15:23:05 | Mikachu | try rightclicking and save as in firefox |
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| 15:24:02 | tucoz | but if I rightclick, firefox wants to save the wikipage (iriverflashing.htm) |
| 15:24:35 | loco | JdGordon: got something for you: implement a full pathname filter for tagcache. ;) |
| 15:25:16 | tucoz | hmm, I think the file got saved after all. It only wanted to save it as htm. |
| 15:29:42 | JdGordon | loco ? |
| 15:30:13 | loco | JdGordon: yeah, i thought, you were bored. ;) |
| 15:30:15 | tucoz | Could someone confirm that this md5 sum is right for the bootloader.iriver from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing 06D5A6E217B58E4141BF8D7D7B79D33B |
| 15:31:07 | Mikachu | tucoz: it is |
| 15:31:14 | Mikachu | well, i get the same when i download it at least |
| 15:31:19 | tucoz | Mikachu: thanks |
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| 15:31:32 | Slasheri | tucoz: that is correct, please add it to the wiki page |
| 15:31:46 | tucoz | Slasheri: ok. Will do |
| 15:31:54 | JdGordon | loco: i mean, explain.. |
| 15:32:20 | JdGordon | isnt the point of TC to deal with the tags.. not the filenames? |
| 15:32:56 | loco | JdGordon: well, there is also a filename filter. |
| 15:33:47 | loco | JdGordon: but i mean a filter, that lets you filter on the full location of the file. then you could use clauses like filename !^ "/audio books" or something like that. |
| 15:36:41 | JdGordon | i have no idea abou the TC code.. but point me in the right direction and ill have a look |
| 15:37:05 | loco | that's also my problem. ;) |
| 15:37:39 | JdGordon | Slasheri: would TC even be able to theoretically do that? |
| 15:40:03 | preglow | Slasheri: what's up with the internal_eeprom.bin file? |
| 15:40:45 | tucoz | Ah, finally rid of the iriver fw :D |
| 15:41:31 | tucoz | clever to use rec+play to load from disk. Nice Slasheri |
| 15:45:22 | dropandho | what exactly is the advantage to flashing the irivers? |
| 15:45:33 | dropandho | i know archos had reallly slow boottime with the orig FW |
| 15:45:42 | dropandho | but the iriver boots up pretty quick as is |
| 15:45:59 | JdGordon | loco: i can guess how to put it in.. but unless you can tell me where the tags are compared it would be done with a massive memory waste |
| 15:46:27 | loco | JdGordon: what do you mean by "compared"? |
| 15:46:55 | JdGordon | umm... i mean, where are the conditions actually checked? |
| 15:47:32 | tucoz | dropandho, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing#Replacing_original_firmware |
| 15:47:42 | tucoz | a list of advantages there |
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| 15:48:22 | JdGordon | hang on... filename is there already... so full path should just be extending that |
| 15:48:23 | JdGordon | no? |
| 15:48:44 | loco | yeah, i think so, but i didn't yet manage to find out how. |
| 15:49:28 | dropandho | tucoz- sorry, don't know how i missed that one...thanks! |
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| 15:51:04 | JdGordon | can the filename be checked in tagnavi.config atm? |
| 15:51:39 | loco | yes, there is a working filename filter. but it only checks.. well... the file's name |
| 15:53:17 | JdGordon | ok, this is above me... |
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| 16:10:55 | Slasheri | preglow: currently data in the internal_eeprom.bin file is not read by any code |
| 16:11:14 | Slasheri | preglow: however, i think original firmware automatically resets the eeprom when it finds it to be invalid |
| 16:13:01 | Slasheri | loco: hmm, what if clause->str is longer than str? |
| 16:13:12 | Slasheri | loco: please add a boundary check to the patch, then it should be fine |
| 16:13:43 | preglow | Slasheri: why is it a file at all? |
| 16:14:04 | Slasheri | preglow: hmm.. what it should be then? |
| 16:14:18 | Slasheri | because it's dump of the eeprom memory content.. |
| 16:14:19 | preglow | i'm really just wondering how it got created :) |
| 16:14:29 | Slasheri | ah, dump rom memory creates that :) |
| 16:14:33 | preglow | it does? |
| 16:14:35 | Slasheri | yes |
| 16:14:42 | preglow | ah, right, i did do one of those |
| 16:14:42 | Slasheri | i have added it there |
| 16:14:43 | preglow | that's right |
| 16:14:49 | preglow | ok then |
| 16:14:52 | Slasheri | :) |
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| 16:16:11 | petur | Slasheri: on h3x0 the original firmware doesn't seem to care about corrupt eeprom settings which is a pita |
| 16:16:47 | Slasheri | petur: hmm, that sounds bad |
| 16:17:01 | Slasheri | petur: btw, you should try the new eeprom driver, old code had some timing issues |
| 16:17:33 | petur | There are even reports of h3x0 that refuse to boot original firmware - it locks up |
| 16:17:47 | petur | I'll try your new code later today if I find the time |
| 16:18:20 | petur | I want to find out how the eeprom gets corrupted by rockbox |
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| 16:19:02 | Slasheri | hmm, maybe there could be a problem with the pcf driver and software i2c implementation |
| 16:19:18 | petur | can't be much else... |
| 16:19:21 | Slasheri | something like bit shifts and data gets written to eeprom |
| 16:19:47 | Slasheri | because i have found out the eeprom chip is _very_ strict the bus works as the specs says |
| 16:22:16 | * | linuxstb disassembles his new mp3 player |
| 16:25:11 | loco | Slasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5806. like that? |
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| 16:26:33 | Mikachu | you could save the string length in a variable so you don't calc it twice |
| 16:28:20 | loco | alright |
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| 16:36:18 | Massa | Hi everybody! |
| 16:36:33 | petur | hey |
| 16:36:55 | Massa | Somebody here with knowledge about WPS parsing? |
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| 16:37:30 | Massa | Especially about handling of wps_data_preload_tags? |
| 16:38:52 | Massa | the whole handling is really strange - and I wanted to know if there is a reason why it is as it is....????! |
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| 16:43:06 | loco | Mikachu: do i have to do that variable thing? i'm afraid i'm too stupid. ;) |
| 16:43:33 | illogic-al | hi, i'm having problems getting rockbox to start on an H300 |
| 16:44:07 | petur | what problems? |
| 16:44:14 | illogic-al | I patched the firmware (1.28) and installing the rockbox files but it doesn't boot up (anymore) |
| 16:44:43 | illogic-al | it goes straight to the iriver screen |
| 16:44:50 | Massa | Nobody with knowledge about WPS parsing? |
| 16:45:07 | petur | illogic-al: you flashed it correctly? |
| 16:45:42 | illogic-al | petur: yeah, it was at 1.30 before, i patched it and the md5sum is correct |
| 16:46:02 | petur | do you see the bootloader? |
| 16:46:08 | illogic-al | but it goes from the charging... screen, directly to iriver. |
| 16:46:12 | illogic-al | petur: nope |
| 16:46:31 | loco | Mikachu: i'm not too familiar with programming anymore. where would i define those variables? right at the beginning of the function? but then they will be allocated regardless of whether i'll need them later, won't they? |
| 16:47:12 | petur | the bootloader doesn't do charging yet and will boot straight into iriver fw. start it without external power |
| 16:47:20 | Massa | loco: what do you want to do? |
| 16:47:42 | illogic-al | petur: i can't. there is no power otherwise |
| 16:47:52 | petur | flat battery? |
| 16:47:57 | illogic-al | yeah |
| 16:48:08 | petur | charge it first a bit in iriver |
| 16:48:24 | petur | Linus is working on a new bootloader to handle this |
| 16:48:28 | illogic-al | and it _was_ working last night while in charge mode. |
| 16:48:42 | illogic-al | petur: the battery doesn't seem to hold a charge |
| 16:48:50 | loco | Massa: there's a strlen that gets calculated twice and Mikachu suggested to keep it in a variable, but i don't really know how to do that anymore. :| |
| 16:49:03 | Massa | loco: where? |
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| 16:49:38 | loco | Massa: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5806 |
| 16:50:11 | petur | illogic-al: Li-ion batteries don't like deep discharges. How old is the battery anyway? |
| 16:50:46 | illogic-al | petur: don't know. got it from e-bay last year. |
| 16:50:59 | illogic-al | the battery wouldn't charge so I bought an X5 instead :-) |
| 16:51:19 | illogic-al | but I lost that recent;y so I decided to see if rockbox could bring any life back to this thing. |
| 16:51:44 | petur | ah so you want to use the h340 with bad battery and rockbox? |
| 16:51:49 | petur | on ac power |
| 16:52:13 | illogic-al | yup |
| 16:52:19 | Massa | loco: in C (not C++) you're only allowed to define variables at the beginning of a "{" |
| 16:52:38 | petur | illogic-al: ask LinusN about the new bootloader when he's around |
| 16:52:48 | illogic-al | petur: cool |
| 16:53:02 | Massa | loco: and they can be used inside the "{" "}" pair... |
| 16:53:25 | illogic-al | petur: i'd actually never thought about the battery being bad. This is a US unit and when I got it, it was flashed with the EU firmware. |
| 16:53:30 | Slasheri | loco: committed, i did small modifications to the code |
| 16:54:03 | illogic-al | I thought that caused the problems and just using rockbox would fix whatever problems it was having. |
| 16:54:12 | loco | oh, fine, i was just about to despair. ;) |
| 16:54:19 | illogic-al | seemed to work last night, 'cept the battery still didn't charge :-) |
| 16:54:24 | xorAxAx | Massa: not in ansi C99 |
| 16:54:40 | petur | illogic-al: must be bad battery, using US or EU firmware doesn't matter |
| 16:55:01 | petur | get a cheap replacement form ebay ;) |
| 16:55:09 | Massa | xorAxAx: so you say in C99 it's allowed to define variables anywhere like in C++? |
| 16:55:10 | petur | s/form/from |
| 16:55:19 | illogic-al | petur: can't i get one from circuit city instead :-) |
| 16:55:27 | xorAxAx | Massa: yep |
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| 16:55:53 | xorAxAx | but you can just use them after you defined them |
| 16:55:59 | petur | illogic-al: I don't care where you buy the battery :p |
| 16:56:01 | xorAxAx | (as opposed to algol) |
| 16:56:32 | Massa | and we use the compiler in C99 mode? |
| 16:56:38 | illogic-al | heheh |
| 16:56:58 | illogic-al | alright thanks for the info. I'll open this up and see what type of battery i need. |
| 16:57:18 | xorAxAx | Massa: no idea |
| 16:57:34 | Massa | to be honest, I always use braces to define temporary used variables ;) |
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| 16:59:01 | Massa | Another thing: what's wrong with the USB charging patch for H300 (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4770)? |
| 16:59:21 | Massa | Or what's the reason it does not get comitted to CVS? |
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| 16:59:59 | loco | hehe, nice one slasheri. ;) |
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| 17:00:10 | Slasheri | loco :) |
| 17:00:28 | Slasheri | loco: btw, strstr and strcmp works differently as you probably noticed |
| 17:00:48 | Slasheri | (return value is different) |
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| 17:02:13 | loco | err... |
| 17:03:00 | petur | Massa: I don't think there's anything wrong with that patch. Don't know why it's still sitting there |
| 17:03:00 | Slasheri | strcasecmp returns 0 when strings match, and strcasestr returns non-zero (the pointer where strings match) |
| 17:03:19 | loco | oh, yeah, i see. |
| 17:04:09 | loco | i'll never learn the way you use "booleans" in c. ;) |
| 17:05:01 | loco | ok, gtg, thanks for your help and bye for now. |
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| 17:05:30 | Massa | petur: yeah - I also don't know, so I asked here and at the dev mailinglist -maybe somebody knows :-p |
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| 17:07:24 | Massa | petur: have you ever programmed something WPS related (a new tag or so)? |
| 17:08:03 | petur | nope, just some small (obviuos) bugfixes |
| 17:08:11 | petur | obvious too |
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| 17:10:06 | Massa | that's too bad - I could need some help :-( |
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| 17:10:36 | petur | no time now anyway - later maybe |
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| 17:12:23 | preglow | what's the most common way to sign extend an n bit number in c? |
| 17:13:12 | Massa | preglow: explain a bit more |
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| 17:18:11 | preglow | Massa: i've masked a three bit signed number out of a bitfield and want to sign extend it to 32 bits |
| 17:18:43 | preglow | Massa: only quick way i can think of right now is (bleh << 29) >> 29, but that might not always work |
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| 17:30:21 | Massa | preglow: the only other solution that came to my mind currently is something similar to ~((bleh << 29) - 1) - but I'm a bit rusty and don't know if it's correct ;) |
| 17:30:29 | Febs | illogic-al, if you charge the battery for 3 hours or so and it still doesn't hold a charge, it likely needs to be replaced. |
| 17:30:55 | Massa | I have to leave now - maybe I'll come back later - see you... |
| 17:31:06 | illogic-al | Febs: yeah, i needs to be. I just never thought of that till last night. |
| 17:31:12 | illogic-al | a year after getting it :-) |
| 17:31:51 | Febs | Read this: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=34257 |
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| 17:33:24 | Slasheri | preglow: hmm, why (blen << 29) >> 29 should even work? |
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| 17:33:37 | Slasheri | *bleh, but never mind |
| 17:34:44 | Slasheri | preglow: or you just want to get rid of the sign bit? |
| 17:36:27 | preglow | Slasheri: because left shift is not guaranteed to be arithmetic |
| 17:37:06 | preglow | i misread |
| 17:37:19 | preglow | i basically want to copy the sign bit to all the unused bits |
| 17:37:24 | preglow | which is what sign extension is |
| 17:37:43 | Slasheri | ah |
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| 17:49:57 | illogic-al | I'm planning on getting this battery ofr 1st/2nd gen ipods. It should be fine right? |
| 17:49:59 | illogic-al | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16855999007 |
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| 18:23:12 | preglow | amount of targets in configure really is starting to look like something |
| 18:23:24 | preglow | freqmod: anything new on the speex front? |
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| 18:44:02 | * | Febs is about to take the plunge and install Linux. |
| 18:45:16 | preglow | ouchouchouchouch |
| 18:45:42 | preglow | speex on h120 :/ |
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| 18:47:23 | A_M | this is what I'm currently working on: http://web.telia.com/~u16106552/menusettings.png |
| 18:47:24 | A_M | Settings display in menus (right-aligned). Is this something people would like to see as a patch and/or in CVS? |
| 18:48:44 | preglow | sure |
| 18:48:50 | preglow | a patch couldn't hurt |
| 18:49:05 | linuxstb | A_M: I quite like it. But how well does it work on smaller LCDs, or with large fonts - i.e. when the settings name needs to scroll? |
| 18:49:23 | linuxstb | The contents of the remote on that screenshot doesn't look ideal... |
| 18:50:05 | A_M | yeah, currently strings merge to the left when they overlap |
| 18:51:12 | Febs | Obviously that is something that would need attention, but I do like the concept. |
| 18:51:55 | A_M | imo it's not really a big deal if the actual changing of settings is still on a separate screen. but I'd like to have it so the settings editing is (as an option) done within the menu as well. and in that case it could become annoying. |
| 18:53:25 | Febs | Right now, the 'right' button and select button have the same function in menus (at least on the platforms that I'm familiar with). Perhaps that button could be used to scroll through the settings. |
| 18:53:50 | Febs | The left/back button needs to be used to navigate to previous menu though. |
| 18:54:29 | preglow | arghghg |
| 18:54:30 | preglow | i hate malloc |
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| 18:57:49 | A_M | Febs: hmm... would that really be an improvement over how changing settings currently is handled? I was thinking of leaving that as it is, just update the menu instead of the separate page when in "set" mode... |
| 18:58:56 | preglow | man, speex is heavily non-realtime on coldfire |
| 18:59:11 | Febs | For settings that have a small number of options, it could save several keystrokes. |
| 18:59:49 | Febs | For example, in the equalizer menu, it would allow the user to toggle the eq on or off with a single button press, rather than 3. |
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| 19:00:04 | A_M | Yeah, you're right. |
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| 19:00:38 | Febs | Of course, there may well be disadvantages that I'm not thinking of. I'm pretty much just thinking out loud here. |
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| 19:00:48 | A_M | well so am I :) |
| 19:01:06 | preglow | only disadvantage i can think of is the fact that strings will collide |
| 19:01:06 | A_M | I'm not really familiar with the different controls on different platforms. On which platforms are there multiple keys that do the same thing in the menus? |
| 19:01:32 | preglow | but all in all i'd say this approach is something i've missed anyway |
| 19:01:43 | A_M | So, any suggestions on what better handling when text is wider than screen might be, instead of the current merging and scrolling? Truncating the description to fit the current value on screen doesn't seem much better... |
| 19:02:18 | preglow | scrolling just the first string would probably be best |
| 19:02:25 | preglow | but that's not possible |
| 19:02:58 | A_M | yup, already looked into that, would require almost an entire rewrite of scrolling code I guess. (not something I'd want to do) |
| 19:04:53 | preglow | it's on our list anyway |
| 19:05:01 | preglow | but it requires a lot of other code to be done properly |
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| 19:48:22 | RaeNye | Would any X5 user like to test the superior PCF50606 driver I've finally managed to get working? I'd like another opinion before committing it... |
| 19:50:01 | RaeNye | It's #5808 if anyone wants it. |
| 19:50:05 | RaeNye | I'll be off. |
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| 20:27:33 | Massa | Hi everybody, I'm back again. |
| 20:30:35 | linuxstb | Does anyone know of any Linux tools to analyse a FAT16 disk image? |
| 20:31:49 | preglow | analyse how? |
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| 20:32:13 | Spida | linuxstb: hexdump? sleuthlit? |
| 20:32:42 | linuxstb | I bought myself a new MP3 player today - a no-name (Logik) 1GB MP3 player with DAB radio. |
| 20:33:07 | jhMikeS | I've got assembly lcd_update(_rect) routines on FS for x5 (#5807). No yuv yet thought but that will come soon. |
| 20:33:32 | preglow | mp3 player with dab radio? |
| 20:33:33 | preglow | not bad |
| 20:34:11 | linuxstb | Mounting it in Linux gives me an 884MB FAT16 disk (no partition table), and I've dd'ed a copy of it to my hard disk. |
| 20:34:57 | linuxstb | The odd thing is that it came pre-loaded with some music. If I do "madplay diskimage.bin", then madplay skips through some rubbish, and starts playing some music. But according to Linux, the disk only contains two tiny config files, nothing else. |
| 20:35:22 | * | jhMikeS notices RaeNye doesn't seem to stick around much. |
| 20:36:02 | Massa | linuxstb: maybe it has several partitions? |
| 20:37:18 | linuxstb | A cool feature is that it can record DAB radio as you're listening, and give you the ability to pause/rewind the radio (but sadly, not save the recording). This works for up to 1hour of a 192kbps, which I calculate to be about 82MB. So that (along with the FAT overhead) probably fills up the 1GB FLASH. |
| 20:37:35 | linuxstb | Massa: There's no partition table... |
| 20:38:34 | Massa | linuxstb: no "official" one - but maybe it does uses some "build in" table? |
| 20:38:53 | linuxstb | But my real problem is I can't find the firmware on the device, and no updates on the web... |
| 20:39:44 | linuxstb | Massa: Maybe, but when I mount the image, it tells me it's an 884MB disk. |
| 20:41:15 | linuxstb | So it's a valid 884MB FAT16 disk image, but full of data with no directory entries... The device also supports MTP (as well as UMS), so I'm guessing it hides the MTP-transferred files somewhere in the FAT16 disk image. |
| 20:42:09 | linuxstb | Ah, dosfsck is listing some files... |
| 20:42:13 | Massa | sorry to be ignorant - but what is MTP and UMS? |
| 20:43:19 | linuxstb | MTP is the method used by Windows Media Player (and maybe other software) to sync music to a portable device. UMS is the standard USB Mass Storage we know and love - all Rockbox devices use UMS. |
| 20:43:32 | linuxstb | Seems there is a directory on my disk called "\/:*?"<>" |
| 20:44:33 | Massa | Oh - I didn't know about MTP and I didn't know that the short form of "USB Mass Storage" is UMS :$ |
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| 20:44:55 | preglow | linuxstb: cool |
| 20:45:04 | preglow | linuxstb: so it's got the capability to rip the raw stream then, i assume |
| 20:45:58 | linuxstb | Yes, it seems that way. |
| 20:46:19 | preglow | how much was it? |
| 20:46:21 | linuxstb | But there seems to be a major bug in the original firmware - it can't tune into the BBC's DAB multiplex... |
| 20:46:41 | Mikachu | don't you usually write "static inline" instead of "inline static"? |
| 20:46:59 | preglow | Mikachu: well, i do |
| 20:47:03 | preglow | but i dont think it matter |
| 20:47:27 | linuxstb | preglow: 99 UKP - it seems to only be sold by the Dixons/Currys high-street chain: http://www.currys.co.uk/product.php?sku=152043 |
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| 20:49:23 | Massa | Mikachu: I think most people write "static inline" instead of "inline static" |
| 20:49:43 | Mikachu | it was in reference to http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/tagcache.c.diff?r1=1.52&r2=1.53 |
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| 20:51:37 | Massa | Is now anybody here with knowledge in WPS parsing, especially about wps_data_preload_tags? |
| 20:54:15 | uski | linuxstb: maybe you got a refurbished unit, previously used by someone and reformatted in the factory by only rebuilding the FAT ? |
| 20:55:12 | linuxstb | uski: No, I've solved the mystery now. There's a directory with a deliberately illegal name - \/:*?"<> - which contains all the interesting files. |
| 20:55:18 | uski | oh ok |
| 20:55:23 | uski | interesting |
| 20:56:00 | uski | i suppose you'll start investigating whether you can run your own code on the unit or not ? ;) |
| 20:57:01 | linuxstb | I need to satisfy my curiousity... |
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| 20:58:40 | preglow | linuxstb: opened it? |
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| 21:00:02 | linuxstb | Yes. It's got a telechips TCC773L - 120MHz ARM9, but no datasheet that I can see... |
| 21:00:33 | Massa | Still nobody with knowledge in WPS parsing here :( |
| 21:00:48 | uski | linuxstb: have you found any firmware upgrade utility & firmware binary ? |
| 21:01:13 | linuxstb | uski: Not yet. I haven't even found the manufacturer... Although it's possibly designed by telechips themselves. |
| 21:01:27 | preglow | bhah, telechips |
| 21:01:32 | preglow | still |
| 21:01:37 | preglow | that's not half bad |
| 21:02:07 | uski | why not contacting telechips ? (/me dreaming) |
| 21:02:46 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if I'll keep it yet - as I said earlier, the firmware seems to refuse to tune into the BBC's DAB radio multiplex - and that's the main reason I bought it.... |
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| 21:02:59 | uski | haha, on telechips website you need an id/password to get the datasheets |
| 21:03:16 | linuxstb | Yep, noticed that... |
| 21:03:45 | preglow | linuxstb: any reason why it should refuse that? |
| 21:03:58 | preglow | as in anything special with that particular multiplex? |
| 21:04:15 | preglow | btw, what bitrate do dab broadcasters usually use? |
| 21:04:47 | Ribs | 128k, I believe |
| 21:04:55 | * | Ribs checks |
| 21:05:18 | Ribs | "128kbps stereo" according to my DAB system |
| 21:05:41 | linuxstb | preglow: I've no idea... In the UK, most music stations are 128kbps. A couple are 160kbps or 192kbps. |
| 21:06:06 | preglow | ugh, 128kbps |
| 21:06:23 | Ribs | it sounds pretty good, actually |
| 21:06:28 | preglow | well, it's ok |
| 21:06:30 | Ribs | a lot better than FM, very clear |
| 21:06:31 | preglow | but could be better |
| 21:06:41 | TeaSea | 128kbps in WHAT though? |
| 21:06:41 | TeaSea | mp3? |
| 21:06:42 | Ribs | well, my experience of 128k mp3 files is 'urgh' |
| 21:06:44 | preglow | mp2 |
| 21:06:46 | linuxstb | Ribs: A lot better than bad FM. It doesn't touch good FM though. |
| 21:06:51 | TeaSea | Owch |
| 21:07:00 | TeaSea | What the fuck is the world's obsession with mp2 and mpeg2? |
| 21:07:07 | preglow | they're just now starting to introduce dab radio in norway |
| 21:07:13 | Ribs | linuxstb, well, it's clear enough for me to think it can't get much better |
| 21:07:15 | TeaSea | mpeg2 should never have been kept on for a DVD compression format. |
| 21:07:17 | preglow | i really wish they'd go with some other standard |
| 21:07:23 | Ribs | I can enjoy it without worrying about it, put it that way :) |
| 21:07:27 | preglow | TeaSea: it's not even mpeg2, it's mpeg1 layer 2 |
| 21:07:40 | TeaSea | preglow: Ow |
| 21:07:49 | preglow | TeaSea: a codec that's been around for probably fifteen years |
| 21:08:26 | uski | i suppose it's easy enough to encode/decode for cheap DSPs |
| 21:08:28 | preglow | some other digital broadcasting systems with more efficients codecs exist |
| 21:08:29 | preglow | like drm |
| 21:08:34 | preglow | as in digital radio mondioale |
| 21:08:38 | preglow | mondiale too |
| 21:09:00 | preglow | uski: yeah, but todays dsps can decode aac without even breaking a sweat |
| 21:09:01 | uski | a friend of mine is working with mpeg2 encoders and they are having problems encoding high definition streams in mpeg2 in real time |
| 21:09:05 | preglow | even the cheaper ones |
| 21:09:10 | uski | yea but encoding is hard |
| 21:09:13 | preglow | you don't even need a dsp, just a cpu |
| 21:09:20 | uski | and they have to encode in real time |
| 21:09:24 | linuxstb | uski: Which country is that? |
| 21:09:27 | uski | linuxstb: France |
| 21:09:33 | uski | why ? |
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| 21:09:40 | uski | i don't think we are using pre-1980 technologies |
| 21:09:42 | uski | ;) |
| 21:09:55 | uski | or maybe it was mpeg4 i'm not sure actually |
| 21:09:58 | linuxstb | Odd, all of Europe is broadcasting HD in MPEG-4. |
| 21:09:59 | uski | hmm |
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| 21:10:19 | uski | yea could be mpeg4 |
| 21:10:30 | preglow | encoding hd mpeg4 in realtime sounds like it'd need a kickass computer doing the number crunching |
| 21:10:44 | uski | they did it, but it was not easy |
| 21:10:50 | linuxstb | It could well be MPEG-4 - I was watching the BBC's high-definition (MPEG-4) coverage of the world cup, and the picture was very poor compared to their pre-recorded broadcasts. |
| 21:11:02 | uski | yea |
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| 21:11:13 | preglow | nothing pleases me more than a shitty encoded broadcast |
| 21:11:15 | uski | they did it for Rolland Garros tennis cup |
| 21:11:19 | preglow | makes me miss analogue broadcasting |
| 21:11:42 | uski | something that i find stupid is that they made INTERLACED HD |
| 21:11:53 | preglow | god, yes |
| 21:11:59 | uski | interlacing is one of the worst thing that can happen to a stream |
| 21:12:03 | preglow | retarded is the word you're looking for |
| 21:12:20 | uski | i thought that they would get rid of that ASAP, so when I heard of HD I thought it was no longer interlaced... |
| 21:12:34 | uski | big mistake, they happily interlaced all the formats |
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| 21:12:57 | Massa | linuxstb: you do know a lot of most things in Rockbox - I need your advice ;) |
| 21:13:14 | linuxstb | It's not all interlaced - there's both 720p and 1080i formats. But in Europe, 1080i does seem to be the most popular... |
| 21:13:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | The first HD cable box I received from my cable company ONLY output at 1080i |
| 21:13:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Independent of what the channel was broadcast in. |
| 21:13:34 | uski | linuxstb: interesting |
| 21:13:49 | linuxstb | Massa: I know nothing about WPS parsing... |
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| 21:14:25 | Massa | lwhen I change the behaviour of wps_data_preload_tags - would it have a chance to get comitted? |
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| 21:15:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Wouldn't that kinda depend on what you make the new behaviour? |
| 21:17:18 | Massa | Currently a WPS line will be send to wps_data_preload_tags-function; if that function detects one of the preload tags the whole line will be removed from further parsing. |
| 21:18:03 | Massa | If it does not directly detect a preload tag it will put the whole line in the format_buffer for later "normal" parsing. |
| 21:19:10 | Massa | Because of that behaviour currently tags which are handled by the wps_data_preload_tags function must be the only tag in a line and must start at the beginning of the line. |
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| 21:20:33 | Massa | Actually I want to know if there is a reason why the preload tags got removed from the format_buffer... |
| 21:20:47 | Bger | Massa: i really don't think u should put any efforts in this |
| 21:21:06 | Massa | BGer: why not? |
| 21:21:26 | Bger | the current wps parsing algo should be gone soon (at least i hope so:)) |
| 21:21:41 | Massa | Bger: who is working on it? |
| 21:22:05 | Bger | noone atm, but the idea is to switch the wps to viewports ... |
| 21:22:05 | linuxstb | If anyone is interested, here is what "dosfsck -l" says is on my MP3 player's FAT16 partition. Linux itself only shows me the CONFIG directory: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/dirlist.txt |
| 21:23:10 | Massa | Bger, I know the idea - but somebody must have a deeper sight on what's planned and make it real ;) |
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| 21:23:36 | * | BHSPitMonkey will paypal someone 10 bucks if they can successfully recover my iPod's partitions without losing anything, via ssh |
| 21:23:37 | BHSPitMonkey | lol |
| 21:25:13 | Massa | Currently I have a problem with the album art parsing - and to fix it I'll try to make the parsing of the preload tags bettter... |
| 21:25:25 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: what has happened to it? |
| 21:25:57 | Bger | btw, just to warn all of you again... DON'T allow your player's battery to go flat while in USB mode, especially if u're writing something onto it |
| 21:26:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | If the problem is that preload tags need to be on their own line, why not just put them on their own line? |
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| 21:27:06 | preglow | linuxstb: nice directory name... |
| 21:27:16 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, my partition table's all out of whack |
| 21:27:20 | Bger | linuxstb: are these mp3 files clean mp3 streams |
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| 21:27:52 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: that is a result, not a cause |
| 21:28:02 | Massa | Paul_The_Nerd: because I need to make some initial parsing for the album art, just to detect if a album art tag or its conditional tag is used inside the WPS. |
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| 21:28:44 | BHSPitMonkey | you didn't specify that much, Mikachu ... anyway, I did a "Update" with the apple updater, and then my Linux partition became invisible (it still existed, but the partition table just showed one big FAT32 partition swallowing it up) |
| 21:28:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | I imagine as long as whatever you do doesn't break existing WPSes, and provides an actual benefit, then it'll probably be okay. |
| 21:29:08 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, so I ran testdisk, and it tried to recover it, and now it's more messed up |
| 21:29:12 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: so you have ipl and rockbox on it? |
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| 21:29:26 | BHSPitMonkey | yep |
| 21:29:44 | BHSPitMonkey | and I really don't want to lose the contents of my FAT partition |
| 21:29:59 | BHSPitMonkey | I know they're there, but you can't see them... |
| 21:30:08 | Mister_X | Hey, can anyone help me with my Nano? It's acting funny after installing rockbox, I want to get rid of the rockbox partition, reflash to my applefirmware, and try again. |
| 21:30:25 | preglow | Mister_X: how is it acting funny? |
| 21:30:28 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: i see, and you're sure the updater didn't format it or anything? only repartitioned? |
| 21:30:41 | Massa | Paul_The_Nerd: well - I'll try, but I don't want to investage more effort if it does not have any chance to get comitted... |
| 21:30:43 | Mister_X | Well, instead of booting into the original firmware, it just .. dosen't |
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| 21:30:51 | Mister_X | it always goes into rockbox no matter what |
| 21:30:59 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, no, the updater just updates the firmware (and apparently jacks with the partition table), and the Restore function formats it |
| 21:31:05 | linuxstb | Bger: Yes, they seem to be. If I do "madplay diskimage.bin", madplay will skip through the rubbish and find some MP3 data to play. |
| 21:31:13 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: hm, okay |
| 21:31:15 | BHSPitMonkey | Mister_X, hold MENU while it's starting |
| 21:31:20 | Mister_X | Did that |
| 21:31:22 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: you sort of have to know exactly how it was partitioned before |
| 21:31:26 | BHSPitMonkey | Mister_X, the timing is tricky |
| 21:31:29 | Massa | Actually I didn't want to have a deeper look at the albumart until the viewports have been comitted ;) |
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| 21:31:30 | Mister_X | I know |
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| 21:31:45 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, testdisk actually detects the partition locations somewhat |
| 21:31:45 | Mister_X | I'm familiar with it, but the only way to get it to work is to use the ipodupdater.. |
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| 21:31:52 | Mister_X | Then I lose the rockbox. |
| 21:32:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Massa: Well, you still haven't really said what you're going to have it *do* so it's not like someone here who has commit can say "Yes, I will commit changes you make, even though I don't know what they are, how well written they will be, and any side effects they may have." |
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| 21:32:11 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: i would recommend dumping /dev/sda to a file, and then experiment on the file |
| 21:32:12 | Mister_X | I've had it working on another now broken nano. Know about the tricky timing. But I think the thing is messed up.. |
| 21:32:33 | Mister_X | because, transfers to the device are super slow, and I can't get it to boot original firmware, ever. |
| 21:32:34 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, if only I had the hard drive space :S |
| 21:33:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: Does it ever say "Loading original firmware"? |
| 21:33:03 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: what ipod is it? |
| 21:33:13 | Mister_X | It tries. but then just jumps into the rockbox |
| 21:33:16 | Massa | Paul_The_Nerd: I want to do two things: first I want extend the parsing in wps_data_preload_tags so that it also detects tags which don't start on the first column. |
| 21:33:16 | BHSPitMonkey | Mister_X, on the nano, hardware diskmode is usb 1.1, and firmware diskmode is 2.0 |
| 21:33:16 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: Have you tried repartitioning in the same way you had it before? |
| 21:33:18 | Mister_X | It does say it yes. |
| 21:33:35 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, 30gb 5G |
| 21:33:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: It sounds like you may have improperly created the bootloader. |
| 21:33:44 | Mister_X | I think it's partition tables are screwed up. I think I may have tried to partition it twice. (install rockbox twice) |
| 21:33:50 | Mister_X | maybe yeah |
| 21:33:52 | Mister_X | Hmm |
| 21:33:52 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: did you partition it exactly as the ipl install instructions said? |
| 21:33:56 | Mister_X | Yep |
| 21:34:01 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb, I don't know that I could nail the cylinder values, etc |
| 21:34:03 | Mister_X | uh.. I did that twice |
| 21:34:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: Why did you do it twice? |
| 21:34:29 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the problem right there. |
| 21:34:31 | Massa | Paul_The_Nerd: Second I don't want it to automatically remove the detected tags from the format_buffer - maybe a return value which tells it to remove it... |
| 21:34:35 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, the partition table was like this, [empty][ fat32 ~30gb ][linux] |
| 21:34:39 | Mister_X | Ah sorry, responding to the wrong folks.. (I go as cartoonmonkey on the web) |
| 21:34:55 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: i think there are exact numbers on their wiki |
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| 21:35:12 | Mister_X | Paul: I don't know.. wasn't thinking. It was late.. |
| 21:35:20 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, I didn't use exact numbers. I did it at a time before that was documented that way, anyways. |
| 21:35:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Massa: Well, as I said, as long as it doesn't break existing WPSes, and is actually beneficial, it'll probably get accepted. Nobody can guarantee it will. |
| 21:35:42 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: i see |
| 21:35:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: Well, that's what caused your problem. And I doubt you have the bootpartition.bin from the *first* time. |
| 21:35:58 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: but i think as long as you have the start of the fat partition right, the end doesn't really matter |
| 21:35:59 | Mister_X | Paul: Yep, that's it. |
| 21:36:07 | Mister_X | Argh! |
| 21:36:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: THought it's *possible* that if you just write the bootpartition.bin from the second time back, it'll work as it's supposed to, as that would theoretically only have the one bootloader in it. |
| 21:36:46 | BHSPitMonkey | Mikachu, yeah, I think I'm gonna try and recreate the oversized FAT situation, then I'll have my files at least |
| 21:36:46 | Mister_X | So.. I wonder if I downgrade my ipodupdater to an older version, it will blow away all my rockbox partitions.. |
| 21:36:50 | BHSPitMonkey | I'm fine with the linux one being lost |
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| 21:37:14 | Mikachu | BHSPitMonkey: i am guessing you put the partition on a block boundary, so there are only a couple of values to try |
| 21:37:38 | Mikachu | on the nano, the firmware partition is 10 blocks by default |
| 21:37:40 | Mister_X | Paul: I dunno man.. tried that.. it functions.. but everything is slow.. like 1/2 usb 1.0 speeds on transfers |
| 21:37:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Mister_X: Tried what? |
| 21:38:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | What does transfer speed have to do with booting into the Apple OS? |
| 21:38:17 | Mister_X | Tried just putting the bootpartition.bin from the 2nd time back again |
| 21:38:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | We were discussing why your ipod cannot boot into Apple OS. |
| 21:38:55 | tommeyer | Hi, I was trying to build the cross-compilers using rockboxdev.sh, and when I tried to build all, on two completely different Linux systems (an older Slackware, and a SUSE 10.1 box), it ended up not working in the same part (I think libcrt). However, just building ARM worked fine. Any ideas? |
| 21:39:30 | Mister_X | Paul: Yes, but it can, if I use ipodupdater.. everything is fine. I can then again apply the bootpartition.bin for rockbox from my 2nd try.. but then rockbox works, no original apple firmware. |
| 21:39:53 | Mister_X | And very slow transfer speeds |
| 21:40:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | You aren't answering the questions I'm actually asking. |
| 21:40:13 | Mister_X | Oh oh |
| 21:40:13 | tommeyer | More info: it died building the arm compiler, when building "all", but built it fine by itself. |
| 21:40:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | I never asked anything about the Apple updater. |
| 21:40:33 | Mister_X | Tranfer speed.. is normal usb 2.0 when I'm in the apple OS, when in rockbox, it is very very slow. |
| 21:40:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you use the Apple Updater to restore the Apple OS, then you should start the *whole* process over again. Don't reuse files |
| 21:40:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | You're NEVER transferring in Rockbox |
| 21:40:45 | Mister_X | ah |
| 21:40:46 | Mister_X | ok |
| 21:40:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox reboots into Emergency Disk Mode |
| 21:40:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Which on the iPod Nano is very slow |
| 21:41:11 | Mister_X | but looking at the drive using the manager tool in xp.. after updating Ipod using the updater, that rockbox partition is still there. I can see it.. |
| 21:41:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | What Rockbox partition? |
| 21:41:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox doesn't require a special partition... |
| 21:41:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | All you do is install the bootloader, and copy some files |
| 21:42:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | And to install the bootloader, you need to be working with a *clean* bootpartition.bin |
| 21:42:10 | Mister_X | but.. dosen't it create an 80 gig partition or so? |
| 21:42:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | We've already established that the one from your second attempt *wasn't* clean. |
| 21:42:19 | Mister_X | right |
| 21:42:21 | Mister_X | ok ok |
| 21:42:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | Also.... 80 gigs? |
| 21:42:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | What player do you have that has that much storage? |
| 21:43:18 | Mister_X | er.. sorry |
| 21:43:24 | Mister_X | 80 MB |
| 21:43:28 | Mister_X | I just mistyped |
| 21:43:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | That's the apple firmware partition |
| 21:43:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's always there. |
| 21:43:40 | Mister_X | ahhh |
| 21:43:43 | Mister_X | ok thanks paul |
| 21:43:55 | Mister_X | I'm a cartoonist and animator.. a tiny bit slow with the hardware |
| 21:44:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | After using the updater, delete *all* .bin files you have except bootloader-nano.bin |
| 21:44:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then start the process over for creating rockboot.bin |
| 21:44:57 | Mister_X | cool |
| 21:44:59 | Mister_X | thanks for the help |
| 21:45:24 | Mister_X | I just bought a Creative Zen vision M, swearing I'd never buy another apple product. .(ipod) |
| 21:45:29 | Mister_X | and the zen is very cool.. |
| 21:45:40 | Mister_X | but I hadn't realized.. how featherlight the nano is |
| 21:45:50 | Mister_X | and how much I loved rockbox |
| 21:45:56 | Mister_X | crossfade..etc. |
| 21:45:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 21:46:00 | Mister_X | SoooOOoo |
| 21:46:08 | Mister_X | The Zen is going up on Ebay today. |
| 21:46:09 | Mister_X | haha |
| 21:46:30 | Mister_X | It is cool that it has video out, and can play XVID / Divx right out of the box though. |
| 21:46:32 | ToyKeeper | Hmm. I haven't worked on my rockbox theme for a couple weeks. Maybe I should just release it. |
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| 21:47:02 | Mister_X | You should |
| 21:47:20 | Mister_X | I've been using the WMP 11 blackice theme |
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| 21:47:38 | ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/tmp/TKX5b-5.png |
| 21:47:42 | Mister_X | has anyone compiled a version for the nano that includes albumart yet? |
| 21:47:53 | ToyKeeper | I haven't done anything with the volume or battery graphics yet. |
| 21:48:18 | Mister_X | Whoa that's crazy looking! Pretty cool.. Like that zigzag. |
| 21:48:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | ToyKeeper: While not my thing, I have to say I like the fact that at least *I* can't recognize it as being modelled after some software MP3 player or DAP that I'm familiar with. |
| 21:48:31 | Mister_X | I should do a cartoon version too. |
| 21:48:42 | Mister_X | Hey how hard is it to make a theme? |
| 21:48:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pretty easy |
| 21:48:48 | ToyKeeper | I tried making some volume images, but ran into some sort of size limit in rockbox. |
| 21:48:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | See the CustomWPS wiki page. |
| 21:48:50 | Mister_X | Hmm... |
| 21:48:53 | Mister_X | Ok |
| 21:48:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, "easy" is a relative term |
| 21:49:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | It seems very overwhelming at first. |
| 21:49:08 | BHSPitMonkey | anyone here have a 30GB 5G? |
| 21:49:09 | Paul_The_Nerd | But take a little time and it's really a lot less bad than it looks |
| 21:49:12 | Mister_X | I wish I could do a little animation for it too. |
| 21:49:17 | Mister_X | Hmm |
| 21:49:28 | Mister_X | Looks like a nice little project for me in the future.. |
| 21:49:28 | ToyKeeper | Themes are pretty easy... just make a layout for the text, and then use some sort of image program to draw graphics around them. |
| 21:49:40 | Mister_X | Awesome.. think I'm gonna try it. |
| 21:50:07 | ToyKeeper | I'd recommend a vector graphics program like illustrator or inkscape, but that's just my preference. |
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| 21:50:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | The *easiest* solution is to do all of the text first, take a screendump, and then use that as a layer in a drawing program to get coordinates and draw your backdrop. :) |
| 21:50:24 | Mister_X | Oh yeah inkscape is great! |
| 21:50:28 | Mister_X | Using that on my tablet pc |
| 21:50:37 | ToyKeeper | Paul_The_Nerd: Yeah, exactly. :) |
| 21:50:58 | Mister_X | Xara has a really nice little vector app too |
| 21:51:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | People seem to think it's a *challenge* to get the text and graphics to line up, but they're always doing them separately. |
| 21:51:05 | Mister_X | forget what it's called |
| 21:51:28 | Mister_X | You seen Synfig? |
| 21:51:48 | Mister_X | http://www.synfig.com/ |
| 21:52:02 | Mister_X | Not necessarily a drawing app.. but meant for making animated films. |
| 21:52:26 | Mister_X | Got it running on xp.. although setting up Ubutnu 64bit soon to try it on. |
| 21:52:44 | Mister_X | That and a 64bit Blender3D compilation.. |
| 21:52:49 | Mister_X | :-) |
| 21:52:56 | ToyKeeper | Blender wouldn't be a bad tool for rockbox themes. |
| 21:53:48 | Mister_X | No I'd think you could do some very cool stuff with it |
| 21:54:48 | ToyKeeper | I used it to make web site themes a long time ago... it worked pretty well except that I have absolutely no graphic design skills. :) |
| 21:55:11 | ToyKeeper | Design by random dabbling doesn't work so well... |
| 21:55:23 | Mister_X | haha |
| 21:55:43 | Mister_X | I dunno.. there's a lot of cool "generative" design programs out there that do cool stuff algorythmically.. |
| 21:56:19 | Mister_X | http://www.auto-illustrator.com/ |
| 21:56:27 | Mister_X | Check that crazy program out |
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| 22:01:01 | ToyKeeper | I made the background I'm using with Fyre... fun program to play with. |
| 22:01:57 | ToyKeeper | Oh, oops. I haven't made ff/rw/stop/pause icons yet. |
| 22:02:03 | ToyKeeper | I should probably do that. |
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| 22:12:37 | Mister_X | Dude that Fyre program is cool! |
| 22:12:43 | Mister_X | Rendering an animation with it now |
| 22:13:08 | BHSPitMonkey | anyone here have a 30GB 5G? if you could be so kind as to pastebin your fdisk -l output, that'd be really great |
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| 22:16:47 | freqmod | Hello does anybody else get an uninitialized tag cache when loaded into ram after a few songs on ipod? |
| 22:17:31 | Mister_X | I wish I understood the tag cache.. |
| 22:17:33 | Mister_X | haha |
| 22:17:40 | Mister_X | I'm new-ish to the rockbox |
| 22:17:42 | Mister_X | sorry man |
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| 22:39:10 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: Do you still need the fdisk -l output from a 30GB 5g? |
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| 22:42:41 | ToyKeeper | Well, I'll add it to the wiki once I've added the missing icons, but for now, it's available elsewhere: |
| 22:42:42 | ToyKeeper | http://toykeeper.net/rockbox/themes/ |
| 22:43:00 | ToyKeeper | screenshot: http://toykeeper.net/rockbox/themes/gfx/TKX5b-5.png |
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| 22:47:20 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb, yes please |
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| 22:50:29 | RaeNye | Aloha |
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| 22:51:08 | Rednifre | hi there. |
| 22:51:36 | dionoea | hello |
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| 22:53:17 | Rednifre | Maybe you can give me an advice. I'm thinking about buying an mp3-player. The iRiver 300 series seems to have a nice screen, but the description says nothing about video playback. I don't know much about rockbox, but does it have video playback and would it work on a H300? |
| 22:53:19 | amiconn | ...should I stay or should I go... |
| 22:53:59 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: The original, unmodified partitions? |
| 22:54:44 | dionoea | 40 kbps/sec internet is horrible ... |
| 22:55:20 | amiconn | FOr irc it's sufficient :) |
| 22:55:50 | dionoea | kind of :) |
| 22:56:17 | qwm | wow amiconn, you actually smiled. :) |
| 22:56:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rednifre: Rockbox is just beginning to have video support, though right now it's without audio, and quite slow. |
| 22:56:49 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: http://pastebin.ca/129985 |
| 22:56:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rednifre: The international version of the original firmware supports 10fps video playback I believe. |
| 22:56:53 | BHSPitMonkey | linuxstb, original is what I'm hoping for |
| 22:57:01 | BHSPitMonkey | thanks |
| 22:57:01 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: That's the original. |
| 22:57:07 | BHSPitMonkey | thank you |
| 22:57:32 | * | preglow just baked the nicest bread seen this side of the moon |
| 22:57:39 | qwm | got a photo of it, preglow ? |
| 22:57:40 | preglow | taking orders! |
| 22:57:41 | linuxstb | Give us a slice... |
| 22:57:42 | qwm | and smell sample. |
| 22:57:47 | Rednifre | Hm. What should I buy if I want video playback? The Video iPod is so expensive... |
| 22:57:48 | qwm | oh, i'll order one then. |
| 22:58:00 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: Does the Sansa do video? |
| 22:58:01 | qwm | Rednifre: the ipod nano. ;) |
| 22:58:09 | preglow | in about twenty minutes, i'll be having a stomach ache |
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| 22:58:16 | qwm | hehe preglow |
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| 22:58:56 | * | linuxstb has managed to salvage the hidden files from his MP3 player, but no sign of any firmware files... |
| 22:58:56 | Bagder | linuxstb: it does |
| 22:59:07 | Bagder | but not any particularly good |
| 22:59:15 | Rednifre | can the ipod nano play videos? |
| 22:59:23 | Rednifre | or do i need ipod linux for that? |
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| 22:59:36 | BHSPitMonkey | how would I find out WHAT is making a resource/device busy? (ipod) |
| 22:59:38 | linuxstb | So, how do you port Rockbox to a device with no available firmware upgrades from the manufacturer, and no sign of a firmware on the disk? |
| 22:59:39 | freqmod | rednifre: with ipodlinux, but only uncompressed |
| 22:59:40 | amiconn | hrrrmph! |
| 22:59:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Yeah, it does. |
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| 23:00:17 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: Are you in Linux? |
| 23:00:26 | BHSPitMonkey | yes |
| 23:00:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I hear it's only MJPEG. You have to put stuff through this media converter it has (which oddly enough won't recognize the format it converts TO so you can't back them up on the PC and use it to sync them back later) |
| 23:00:41 | Rednifre | Hm, so the best choice for a cheap video player would be an iPod nano with rockbox and linux? |
| 23:00:57 | linuxstb | BHSPitMonkey: Then "lsof | grep /dev/sde" might work (replace sde with the drive) |
| 23:01:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rednifre: Sandisk Sansa is probably a better choice than that, if you're not looking for guaranteed Rockbox support. |
| 23:01:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Sansa e200 series rather |
| 23:01:31 | freqmod | no, uncompressed video would fill up a 4 gb ipod nano with a few music videoes |
| 23:01:57 | linuxstb | There's a new compressed video player for the Nano now in IPL, but I've no idea how good it is. |
| 23:01:59 | Rednifre | What do you mean "uncompressed"? No DivX? |
| 23:02:14 | Bagder | Rednifre: uncompressed as in no compression as in far from divx |
| 23:02:40 | freqmod | rednifre: .wav sound and a series of .bmp images |
| 23:02:46 | Rednifre | uah! |
| 23:02:52 | Bagder | but you should expect to transcode anyway |
| 23:02:54 | Rednifre | that sounds not good |
| 23:03:03 | Bagder | no matter what I mean |
| 23:03:35 | Rednifre | What's the best choice, if I want guaranteed rockbox support AND video? |
| 23:04:06 | preglow | ipod 5g? |
| 23:04:24 | Bagder | then there is no other player than ipod video |
| 23:04:35 | Rednifre | no cheap alternative? |
| 23:04:38 | Bagder | no |
| 23:04:38 | linuxstb | What about the X5? |
| 23:04:44 | Bagder | no other do video any good |
| 23:04:48 | Rednifre | whats with the nano? |
| 23:04:50 | Bagder | X5 does 13-15 Fps |
| 23:04:59 | Bagder | with a supertiny screen |
| 23:05:04 | Rednifre | no problem |
| 23:05:11 | Rednifre | hmm |
| 23:06:03 | linuxstb | There is a work-in-progress video player in Rockbox (video only, no sound), and that's performing best on the Nano so far. So it seems feasible Rockbox might have video playback on the Nano at some point. |
| 23:07:17 | Rednifre | ...ANd there is iPod Linux... Maybe the nano is the best choice |
| 23:08:18 | Rednifre | Did someone tried the blind interface? I'm not blind, but I like the idea of operating rockbox without looking on the screen (like while driving). How good is the blind interface? |
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| 23:13:26 | Bagder | about this good −−-> <−−- |
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| 23:14:23 | apo` | Rednifre: You mean voice stuff? |
| 23:14:33 | apo` | I like it |
| 23:15:10 | apo` | Except for the fact that I had to record all artist and album names myself coz there's a lot of non-English stuff :P And I don't like my voice |
| 23:16:26 | Rednifre | How does it work? Does it say something like "You are in the main menu. Press play to enter playlist menu"? |
| 23:17:01 | Rednifre | What will I hear, if I just switched it on and want to start a specific play list? |
| 23:17:35 | apo` | You hear the the line you've selected |
| 23:17:57 | Rednifre | ok |
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| 23:51:28 | RaeNye | bye |
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| 23:52:09 | linuxstb | If anyone's interested, here's my research so far on my MP3/DAB player: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/logik/ |
| 23:53:09 | preglow | so, you're keeping it, then? :P |
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| 23:56:33 | Bagder | linuxstb: 512MB? |
| 23:56:49 | qwm | raise your hand if you're a guacamole lover. |
| 23:57:10 | Bagder | linuxstb: the samsung chip is a nand flash |
| 23:57:40 | Bagder | if its a 1GB |
| 23:58:17 | Bagder | "K9K8G08U1M-YCBO 1G " |
| 23:58:32 | Bagder | at least according to this weird page: http://www.fuzing.com/vli/000680273322/Nand_flash_memory_and_CF_card |
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