| 00:00:04 | belze | linuxstb: oh, my fault, i forgot to turn down the 60hz band on the equalizer as well ;) |
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| 00:00:31 | belze | but what is really weird is, that you can hear some beeps at certain levels with an enabled equalizer on a completly silent file |
| 00:00:48 | belze | encoded at ogg qualy 4,5 |
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| 00:01:57 | jhMikeS | that wasn't a comment against linuxstd I mean stB |
| 00:03:43 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: why isn't it warning about .wps files with the same problem then? why should I care? |
| 00:04:05 | Mikachu | .wps files are also excluded if they don't fit, maybe you have a very large lcd |
| 00:04:16 | jhMikeS | 160x128 x5: that's all |
| 00:04:25 | Mikachu | that is a very small lcd :) |
| 00:04:37 | jhMikeS | it has big pixels though |
| 00:05:31 | jhMikeS | Then I guess I don't know why I should care about the .rwps and not the .wps |
| 00:05:54 | Mikachu | maybe the filter doesn't know about x5 yet |
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| 00:09:45 | * | barrywardell has rockbox running on his H10 :) |
| 00:10:06 | barrywardell | buttons don't work though |
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| 00:12:23 | linuxstb_ | barrywardell: congratulations. What was the problem stopping it before? |
| 00:12:39 | barrywardell | I don't know really |
| 00:12:49 | barrywardell | I was trying to run a normal build directly |
| 00:13:01 | OolonColuphid | barrywardell: Wooooo Hooooo!!! |
| 00:13:15 | barrywardell | Instead, this time I made a bootloader which loaded rockbox like the ipod does |
| 00:13:19 | barrywardell | and it just worked |
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| 00:14:21 | barrywardell | Can I set it to play a mp3 automatically on startup? I don't have working buttons yet |
| 00:14:48 | Mikachu | there is autoresume on startup, but you have to have a playlist then |
| 00:14:53 | linuxstb_ | You should be able to. Look at the code in tree.c that starts playback of a file. |
| 00:14:54 | Mikachu | maybe if you copy some statefiles over from the sim? |
| 00:14:57 | Mikachu | or that |
| 00:15:41 | linuxstb_ | barrywardell: So you're just praying that the ipod playback code will work? |
| 00:16:02 | barrywardell | I suppose so |
| 00:16:11 | barrywardell | MrH seems to think that it would |
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| 00:17:12 | jhMikeS | tools/configure is what writes the makefile with commands so shouln't that need a little update too? |
| 00:18:55 | BockBilbo | hello |
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| 00:20:30 | ranunculoid | Can rockbox play ogg files gaplessly as well as MP3s and FLACs? |
| 00:20:41 | linuxstb_ | Yes |
| 00:20:42 | Mikachu | yes |
| 00:21:24 | linuxstb_ | barrywardell: Looking at the filetree.c and tree.c code, I think it would be easier to implement a simple button driver - with up/down and enter. |
| 00:21:53 | ranunculoid | Which is easier on battery life on a 30gig 5g ipod with rockbox, -q4.5 oggs or V0 MP3? |
| 00:22:01 | BockBilbo | anyone here knows what ubuntu package is needed to compile iPlay? while building from the source i get arm-elf-gcc:program not found ... |
| 00:22:23 | Mikachu | wrong channel |
| 00:22:42 | Mikachu | you want #ipodlinux |
| 00:22:56 | barrywardell | linuxstb: I'm starting to come to the same conclusion |
| 00:23:01 | BockBilbo | sorry |
| 00:23:17 | BockBilbo | my bad |
| 00:23:30 | BockBilbo | i tough i was on the #ipodlinux tab on xchat |
| 00:23:31 | BockBilbo | :S |
| 00:23:37 | ranunculoid | So which is better for battery in rockbox, OGG or MP3? |
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| 00:24:50 | * | jhMikeS has to crash learn some perl now |
| 00:26:11 | linuxstb_ | ranunculoid: They are more or less the same. You can test yourself by playing the file, then going into the Audio Thread debug menu and looking at the CPU boost ratio. The higher that number, the more CPU the decoding is taking. |
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| 00:26:52 | * | preglow has no beer :/ |
| 00:29:18 | preglow | woe is me |
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| 00:31:09 | jhMikeS | preglow: my sympathies |
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| 01:30:05 | sm007h | linuxstb, are you still around? |
| 01:31:22 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 01:31:30 | sm007h | I can't get that bootloader you gave me to work |
| 01:31:45 | linuxstb | What does "fdisk -l /dev/sda" display? |
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| 01:32:41 | ootput | howdy |
| 01:32:56 | ootput | i finally got around to getting rockbox on my 1st gen mini |
| 01:33:02 | ootput | gotta say i love it |
| 01:33:53 | ootput | I was wondering if there was documention on how to 'clean up' the ipod, and remove unnecessary objects |
| 01:34:26 | ootput | as I'll be using rockbox, and only rockbox, i'd like to do away with whatever I don't need |
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| 01:34:56 | Mikachu | the only needed dir is .rockbox |
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| 01:35:36 | ootput | where is the apple firmware located? |
| 01:35:54 | Mikachu | in the vast expanses of space outside the fat partition |
| 01:36:07 | ootput | heh |
| 01:36:23 | ootput | so i can safely remove non-.rockbox and non-Music dirs? |
| 01:36:28 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 01:36:38 | Mikachu | itunes music will be in ipod_control though, if you want to keep that |
| 01:36:48 | Mikachu | but probably not since it mangles the filenames |
| 01:37:10 | ootput | nah, i want to get rid of that heirarchy |
| 01:37:21 | ootput | in windows, i had to go into each music folder, and delete the contents |
| 01:37:29 | ootput | for some reason, i couldn't just delete the root music folder |
| 01:37:38 | ootput | it was pretty gay, tbh |
| 01:37:48 | ootput | and I don't know much scripting on the windows platform |
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| 01:39:39 | * | scorche wonders how deleting something could have a sexual preference.....or be happy for that matter |
| 01:40:07 | ootput | Mikachu, it looks like i have a whole bunch of dotfile dirs, too: .DS_Store ._iPod_Control ._.Trashes .Spotlight-V100 .Trashes ._.VolumeIcon.icns .VolumeIcon.icns |
| 01:40:20 | Mikachu | those look like crazy macosx files |
| 01:40:31 | Mikachu | isn't there a plugin that removes them? |
| 01:40:39 | Mikachu | rocktidy or something like that |
| 01:41:03 | * | ootput checks |
| 01:41:11 | linuxstb | disktidy IIRC |
| 01:41:17 | Mikachu | that's the guy |
| 01:41:27 | belze | why did you get an apple product in the first place when you dont like their style? ;) |
| 01:41:37 | ootput | but ._iPod_Control should be removable atm? |
| 01:41:42 | belze | there are players with much better sound-quality out there |
| 01:41:46 | Mikachu | i won mine |
| 01:41:51 | belze | ah, ok |
| 01:41:54 | ootput | belze, hand-me-down |
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| 01:42:22 | ootput | I was considering an h120 for my flac files, but then i found about this project |
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| 01:42:39 | belze | well, the h120 has much better sound quality :) |
| 01:42:48 | ootput | yeah :( |
| 01:43:01 | ootput | i'd saved up for a micro-stack, too |
| 01:43:24 | ootput | well, at least i put that cash to better use :) |
| 01:43:40 | belze | btw: i also archive my music in flac |
| 01:43:50 | belze | but for my player i convert it to ogg mostly |
| 01:44:30 | ootput | i only have a few favorite albums, so i can keep them as flac on my pod |
| 01:44:58 | belze | would be interesting to know if the very low cpu usage of flac saves more battery even though the harddisk has to spin up more often |
| 01:45:03 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:45:13 | Mikachu | maybe on flash based players |
| 01:45:18 | ootput | i haven't been able to encode any new music lately, as I'm not too familiar with Accurate ripping tools on the Linux platform |
| 01:45:29 | belze | yeah, flash players should benefit from it |
| 01:45:32 | Mikachu | ootput: cdparanoia |
| 01:45:39 | ootput | that's what you use? |
| 01:45:45 | Mikachu | otoh, flash players don't fit many flac albums |
| 01:45:51 | belze | i guess its as good as eac for win32? |
| 01:45:54 | Mikachu | i think so |
| 01:45:57 | ootput | Mikachu, is that primarily used as a backend? |
| 01:46:02 | Mikachu | i use a frontend called abcde |
| 01:46:07 | ootput | ah, ok |
| 01:46:11 | Mikachu | i have only ever ripped like 3 audio cds though :) |
| 01:46:32 | Mikachu | but i'm pretty sure cdparanoia is the best you can get |
| 01:46:38 | ootput | belze, yeah, i was looking for an eac-substitute |
| 01:46:48 | Mikachu | it also has the coolest way of telling status |
| 01:47:04 | ootput | Mikachu, is it possible to set encoder flags with abcde, say, for example, -8 for flac? |
| 01:47:10 | Mikachu | sure |
| 01:47:17 | Mikachu | http://pastebot.openbox.org/12 :) |
| 01:47:36 | Galois | uh, dude |
| 01:47:41 | Galois | cdex is the best ripping tool for win32 |
| 01:47:43 | Galois | hands down |
| 01:47:52 | belze | nope, eac is ;) |
| 01:48:03 | Galois | for linux, just use sound-juicer or cdparanoia |
| 01:48:20 | scorche | you are all wrong!...musicmatch is the best! |
| 01:48:28 | ootput | shudders |
| 01:48:31 | scorche | ok...so i couldnt say that with a straight face...so what>/ |
| 01:48:35 | ootput | it's been a while |
| 01:48:49 | ootput | is the jukebox still in production? |
| 01:48:53 | Mikachu | ootput: abcde can use cdparanoia or cdda2wav, and lame, oggenc, flac afaict |
| 01:49:11 | Galois | dongs notwithstanding, you're talking to open source advocates here, and eac loses major points for not being open source |
| 01:49:29 | ootput | cdex is? |
| 01:49:30 | belze | thats true, but it still gives perfect cdrip |
| 01:49:32 | belze | s |
| 01:49:36 | Galois | cdex is GPL |
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| 01:49:47 | Mikachu | abcde is a bash script :) |
| 01:49:48 | ootput | which lib does cdex use? |
| 01:50:12 | ootput | Mikachu, i've used bashburn in the past, but I couldn't figure out how to pass encoder flags |
| 01:50:37 | jhMikeS | Now you can have make create a rockbox folder, a rockbox-full folder, or a rockbox-fonts folder...if noone wants it I'll dispose of it but I learned a little perl all of a sudden. |
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| 01:52:14 | Mikachu | ootput: there is a .abcde.conf in your ~ that you can fiddle with |
| 01:52:32 | Galois | cdex uses paranoia |
| 01:54:21 | ootput | thanks |
| 01:54:39 | ootput | are any of you familiar with .Spotlight-V100 directory? |
| 01:54:49 | ootput | ie, can i safely remove it? |
| 01:54:52 | Mikachu | it is not relevant to the operation of rockbox |
| 01:55:47 | Mikachu | i _think_ spotlight is a searching program for osx |
| 01:56:06 | linuxstb | It is. An annoying sucker... |
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| 01:56:18 | ootput | one last one: bootex.log, and volumeicon.icns? |
| 01:56:27 | Mikachu | also sounds like osx |
| 01:56:48 | Mikachu | like i said you only need .rockbox and rockbox.ipod for rockbox |
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| 01:57:05 | jhMikeS | would anyone find it useful to just create the .rockbox folder instead of a zip file? |
| 01:57:18 | ootput | Mikachu, ok |
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| 01:58:54 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: I think I would use it, yes. |
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| 01:59:17 | Nova-A001 | there's this chipset that's used in a lot of generic mp3 players, with a homebrew scene around it |
| 01:59:22 | Mikachu | you'd have to use something like tar cp .rockbox|(cd /mnt/ipod;tar xp) to copy it there |
| 01:59:22 | Nova-A001 | can anybody remember what it is? |
| 01:59:28 | Mikachu | i don't think cp lets you merge dirs anyway |
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| 02:00:15 | ootput | why on earth can't i remove this ipod Music dir? The fat32 partition is mounted rw as a user, and for a user, me |
| 02:00:27 | ootput | i couldn't get rid of it in Windows either |
| 02:00:27 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: would you rather it just be the .rockbox folder in the build directory or make a subdirectory with the .rockbox folder and the target? |
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| 02:01:00 | linuxstb | I would like the .rockbox to be created directly in /mnt/ipod/ |
| 02:01:02 | Mikachu | ootput: what does it say? |
| 02:01:19 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: you mean straight to the player? |
| 02:01:34 | linuxstb | Yes - to anywhere the user specifies. |
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| 02:02:00 | ootput | Mikachu, rm: cannot remove `....': Read-only file system |
| 02:02:06 | Galois | fedora has this newfangled /media/IPOD mount point instead of the old /mnt/ipod |
| 02:02:06 | Mikachu | is there a single place in the code that defines "/.rockbox" ? |
| 02:02:18 | jhMikeS | hmmm...yes |
| 02:02:26 | Mikachu | if you want to have different versions installed |
| 02:02:26 | ootput | Mikachu, apparetnly i can shuffle files around, but not delete them |
| 02:02:34 | jhMikeS | Mikachu: In what code? |
| 02:02:40 | Mikachu | i just mean when you are in there digging, you could let the user change the .rockbox name too |
| 02:02:54 | Mikachu | ootput: that's funky, no idea |
| 02:03:03 | Mikachu | jhMikeS: rockbox/* |
| 02:03:17 | Mikachu | can i change it in one place, recompile and put it in /.rockbox.hello and it would work? |
| 02:03:20 | jhMikeS | Mikachu: there's a hard define that sets the rockbox directory when built |
| 02:04:09 | jhMikeS | #define ROCKBOX_DIR "/.rockbox" in setings.h |
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| 02:06:55 | ootput | hm, i may wipe the partition clean, and rsync |
| 02:07:06 | ootput | or at least re-mount it |
| 02:07:12 | jhMikeS | Then how would the booloader know which one to go to? I think having directories other than ".rockbox/" is a lot of reworking just to get started/ |
| 02:07:15 | Mikachu | i would fsck.vfat it first |
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| 02:07:28 | Mikachu | i was maybe thinking rolo |
| 02:07:32 | Mikachu | but i haven't actually tried using that |
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| 02:08:12 | Mikachu | i guess if you change the define, it's easy enough to change the makefile tooo |
| 02:08:32 | ootput | is the 320 an affordable solution yet? |
| 02:08:35 | Mikachu | or you could put the define in the makefile instead of settings.h, only one place to change |
| 02:08:57 | ootput | i mean, has all the glitz/glamor-price-affecting factors gone yet? |
| 02:09:10 | jhMikeS | Mikachu: I think I spied some other explicit instances of "/.rockbox" in the code. |
| 02:09:43 | Mikachu | maybe i'll make a patch for that that can rot in the tracker along with the rest |
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| 02:14:59 | ootput | an ipod's setup requires 2 partitions, right? one for the device, and the other for the user? |
| 02:15:01 | jhMikeS | Mikachu: I'll commit it...you mean just get rid of the explicite "/.rockbox"s? |
| 02:15:19 | Mikachu | yeah |
| 02:15:33 | Mikachu | but school starts on monday and mom has birthday party tomorrow, so possibly i will not follow up on this :) |
| 02:15:47 | jhMikeS | Maybe that was done alreay...I'm gonna look |
| 02:16:01 | jhMikeS | skuel...yech |
| 02:16:13 | Mikachu | school = university |
| 02:16:17 | Mikachu | but that's so much to type |
| 02:19:23 | jhMikeS | The recording patch in the tracker puts an end to that with codec paths anyway. |
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| 02:24:05 | sm007h | uh oh, I think I finally bricked my nano |
| 02:24:19 | Mikachu | it is very hard to do such a thing |
| 02:24:25 | Mikachu | in fact you would be the first |
| 02:24:26 | sm007h | that's good to here |
| 02:24:29 | sm007h | hear |
| 02:24:50 | sm007h | well, it's on constantly. I can't get it to go into transfer mode |
| 02:25:19 | sm007h | it's on, syas no partition found, and loading rockbox.... |
| 02:25:32 | sm007h | and neither winxp or linux can "see" it when I connect via usb |
| 02:25:33 | Mikachu | i think it's menu+select, before apple shows -> menu+left |
| 02:25:42 | Mikachu | er |
| 02:25:44 | Mikachu | select+left |
| 02:25:48 | Mikachu | or possibly select+play |
| 02:25:55 | Mikachu | one of those after resetting |
| 02:26:02 | Mikachu | that will take you to emergency disk mode |
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| 02:26:07 | sm007h | ok, it checking right now |
| 02:26:08 | KlrSpz | yo |
| 02:26:11 | sm007h | cool |
| 02:26:37 | sm007h | ?I'm in diagnostic screen |
| 02:26:44 | Mikachu | okay then it wasn't select+left :) |
| 02:26:44 | KlrSpz | on what? |
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| 02:26:50 | Mikachu | try select+play |
| 02:26:57 | KlrSpz | what are you tryin to do? |
| 02:27:14 | sm007h | let me start with what I did |
| 02:27:15 | Mikachu | i think we are trying to fix his nano |
| 02:27:35 | sm007h | I deleted all the partitions. created a tiny partition for the bootloader |
| 02:27:47 | sm007h | and then put it on and then I was giong to put the rockbox files on |
| 02:27:56 | sm007h | I don't have any apple stuff on there at all |
| 02:28:04 | Mikachu | does the rockbox bootloader load? |
| 02:28:10 | Mikachu | with the blue background and the cryptic text |
| 02:28:23 | sm007h | nothing |
| 02:28:27 | sm007h | just sits there |
| 02:28:40 | sm007h | but I think I may have gotten in with select+play |
| 02:28:45 | Mikachu | i mean just after you reboot |
| 02:28:48 | sm007h | yes indeedy doo |
| 02:29:04 | sm007h | just a blue background, says rockbox loading.... |
| 02:29:13 | sm007h | and sits there, wont turn off or anything |
| 02:29:15 | KlrSpz | you have the firmware on there? |
| 02:29:21 | Mikachu | well, that at least means the bootloader is installed right |
| 02:29:24 | sm007h | I have the bootloader |
| 02:29:25 | KlrSpz | the rockbox.ipod file? |
| 02:29:28 | sm007h | nt yet |
| 02:29:36 | KlrSpz | you need to go into diskmode and put that bad boy on there |
| 02:29:36 | Mikachu | it is a bad idea to reboot before doing that :) |
| 02:29:41 | sm007h | couldn't put it on. going to try now that I was able to get it into disk mode |
| 02:30:09 | sm007h | hahaha, I see that now ;) |
| 02:30:51 | sm007h | apple did a good job with this thing ;) |
| 02:31:19 | * | sm007h likes unbrickable toys :D |
| 02:32:42 | ryanpg_ | hrm... seem to be having trouble navigating my nano |
| 02:33:02 | sm007h | hmm, this wasn't much better |
| 02:33:14 | KlrSpz | btw devs, changing the bass/treble is fine realtime, but it appears changing the channels real time adds qquite a delay |
| 02:34:54 | jhMikeS | do most experience the blank/black screen after the bootloader? On x5 the bl was turned off first but a total reset of the lcd and backlight can be avoided...at least I know how on x5 |
| 02:34:59 | KlrSpz | i'm gunna go out to eat, i'll hit you up when i get back smooth |
| 02:35:27 | sm007h | k, I'm all fixed up now |
| 02:35:43 | sm007h | sweet, no more apple_os and an extra 80gbs of space |
| 02:35:52 | Mikachu | maybe not gb |
| 02:36:03 | sm007h | yeah, maybe not ;0 |
| 02:36:08 | sm007h | kb |
| 02:36:11 | sm007h | :D |
| 02:36:23 | KlrSpz | mb? |
| 02:36:31 | KlrSpz | 80k isn't worth messing with |
| 02:36:34 | sm007h | kb, all that for an 80kb baby |
| 02:36:40 | KlrSpz | ghey |
| 02:36:48 | KlrSpz | so the apple os is only 80k? |
| 02:36:51 | sm007h | sure why not, I know you went through and erased all your plugins you weren't using? |
| 02:36:58 | KlrSpz | yeah |
| 02:37:00 | sm007h | no, the image is only like 5mb |
| 02:37:03 | KlrSpz | but 80k isn't like much |
| 02:37:06 | sm007h | the part is 80mb for some reason |
| 02:37:09 | KlrSpz | oh |
| 02:37:10 | KlrSpz | hmm |
| 02:37:12 | KlrSpz | dolts |
| 02:37:25 | KlrSpz | ok, i'm really gone this time, bbl |
| 02:37:26 | sm007h | well then, why did you bother to clear out those plugins ;) most of them are under 80k |
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| 02:45:14 | preglow | mmm... laphroaigh |
| 02:46:13 | preglow | me night |
| 02:46:41 | jhMikeS | nighty nighty |
| 02:47:41 | | Quit Rondom ("ok, ok, I'll quit") |
| 02:48:04 | * | jhMikeS thinks single match scotch whiskey tastes like pencils |
| 02:50:03 | ryanpg_ | single malt? |
| 02:51:13 | jhMikeS | yes...laphroaigh |
| 02:51:52 | jhMikeS | or glenlivet |
| 02:55:14 | * | jhMikeS just gonna commit a quick x5 patch that keeps the BL from winking out during boot. It works perfectly. |
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| 02:56:18 | ryanpg_ | jhMikeS, do you know if anyone has tried loading the x5 firmware on an m5? |
| 02:57:10 | jhMikeS | ryanpg_: I haven't a clue |
| 02:57:27 | ryanpg_ | hrm... guess it couldn't hurt to try |
| 02:57:30 | jhMikeS | feel free :) |
| 02:57:35 | ryanpg_ | hehe |
| 02:57:54 | ryanpg_ | I'd need directions for installing the bootloader though... missing in the manual |
| 02:58:10 | jhMikeS | Same way you flash original firmware updates |
| 02:58:16 | jhMikeS | at least on x5 |
| 02:58:20 | ryanpg_ | ok cool |
| 02:58:55 | ryanpg_ | on the x5 if it "goes wrong" can you just reflash the official firmware? I mean it will still show up as a usb drive yes? |
| 02:59:08 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 02:59:17 | ryanpg_ | k, what the heck, I'll give it a shot |
| 02:59:29 | jhMikeS | good luck |
| 02:59:32 | ryanpg_ | thanks |
| 02:59:57 | ryanpg_ | different display so I'm certain it won't work though :( |
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| 03:05:36 | ryanpg_ | nope |
| 03:05:53 | ryanpg_ | firmware didn't update |
| 03:06:14 | jhMikeS | won't have the right header |
| 03:06:40 | ryanpg_ | eh |
| 03:07:02 | ryanpg_ | quite a bummer |
| 03:07:14 | ryanpg_ | m5 has lotsa potential... just like the x5 |
| 03:07:27 | jhMikeS | you're free to start a new port :) anytime |
| 03:08:02 | ryanpg_ | jhMikeS, if I had the slightest clue regarding any aspect of porting rockbox... I certainly would :) |
| 03:08:46 | ryanpg_ | I'm rather sure someone will port it eventually... the m5 is just an x5 without usb host and color display (hence no video) |
| 03:09:06 | jhMikeS | well if you have the time and inclination I suppose it's possible to get one. |
| 03:09:07 | | Quit Genre9mp3 ("I don't suffer from Rockbox psychosis. I enjoy every minute of it.") |
| 03:09:37 | ryanpg_ | yeah the inclination somewhat, the time less so |
| 03:10:01 | ryanpg_ | but the skill/knowledge would be quite difficult |
| 03:11:26 | jhMikeS | It's coldfire I take it? |
| 03:11:42 | ryanpg_ | yes |
| 03:11:44 | ryanpg_ | afaik |
| 03:12:48 | jhMikeS | flash or HD? |
| 03:13:40 | ryanpg_ | hd |
| 03:13:57 | ryanpg_ | 20gb |
| 03:14:11 | ryanpg_ | 1.8 grayscale lcd |
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| 03:16:41 | jhMikeS | hmmm...looks like a skinny gray x5 |
| 03:17:19 | ryanpg_ | yep |
| 03:18:25 | ryanpg_ | simplified version of the x5 |
| 03:19:27 | ryanpg_ | oh... no FM |
| 03:20:01 | jhMikeS | Time to take it apart and compare the bits to the x5. Make PCB scans and so forth and post it. Take the chip numbers down too and find whatever datasheets you can. |
| 03:21:24 | ryanpg_ | hrm... |
| 03:21:40 | ryanpg_ | good thing I just bought a set of jewelers screwdrivers :) |
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| 03:22:17 | ryanpg_ | jhMikeS, it's rumored someone has already done pcb scans and posted on the forum... I can't find them though |
| 03:22:22 | jhMikeS | I've never started a port on anything yet. It would be interesting and challenging to do it for a device you don't even own. |
| 03:24:09 | ryanpg_ | heh |
| 03:24:15 | ryanpg_ | almost impossible I think |
| 03:24:25 | jhMikeS | The message on the iAudio page is that no has started an m3 or m5 port yet but that was like march |
| 03:24:36 | ryanpg_ | though this would be the easiest port I'm guessing |
| 03:24:48 | ryanpg_ | in april there was a tiny discussion |
| 03:25:02 | ryanpg_ | http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-04/0185.shtml |
| 03:25:07 | ryanpg_ | though I can't follow the thread |
| 03:25:16 | ryanpg_ | the mail archive seems a bit messy |
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| 03:26:11 | ryanpg_ | seems like Wilmer van der Gaast was going to start it... but got busy or something |
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| 03:29:27 | jhMikeS | way back in april...about the time I first became aware of RB |
| 03:30:20 | ryanpg_ | yeah, april, him and RaeNye were getting started... this was before the x5 port though iiuc |
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| 03:31:42 | jhMikeS | There aren't many x5 owners around it seems much less m5 owners |
| 03:31:53 | Mikachu | isn't he bitlbee? |
| 03:31:59 | ryanpg_ | yep |
| 03:32:08 | Mikachu | funny how people i have heard about all over the oss community have some hand in rockbox :) |
| 03:32:19 | ryanpg_ | it's a fun project |
| 03:32:40 | Mikachu | it is |
| 03:32:47 | jhMikeS | It's software written for something you're not supposed to write software for...has a nice rebellious streak if you ask me. |
| 03:33:27 | ryanpg_ | yeah... the m5 is pretty great as it is... but I can't resist installing something "else" on it :P |
| 03:33:49 | jhMikeS | Cowon fw is pretty nasty and slow |
| 03:34:31 | jhMikeS | Don't know about m5 though |
| 03:34:39 | ryanpg_ | hmm... I don't think it's too bad but playing with rb on the nano definitely make me want it on the m5 |
| 03:36:06 | jhMikeS | Wanting gapless playback was what led me here...kept searching the iAudio forums for any mention that they would do it but then someone said to check out rockbox and now I'm in deep :) |
| 03:37:02 | ryanpg_ | gapless would be nice, id3 browsing would be nice, better playlists would be nice |
| 03:37:42 | ryanpg_ | oh well... in due time it will happen I'm sure |
| 03:37:54 | Mikachu | i came for the ogg, i stayed for the hooray it doesn't suck |
| 03:38:14 | jhMikeS | If there's a developer with an M5. Noone else said they had one. |
| 03:38:17 | ryanpg_ | iaudio has good file format support |
| 03:39:09 | jhMikeS | Not much compared to rockbox though. RB supports stuff I've never even seen. |
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| 03:41:14 | ryanpg_ | no doubt rb would be better |
| 03:41:49 | | Part pixelma |
| 03:42:06 | ryanpg_ | hrm... it'd be cheaper for me to buy a dev an m5 than it would to buy an x5 ;) |
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| 03:52:56 | * | jhMikeS is hoping the build system doesn't crash after his commit this time |
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| 04:02:12 | * | jhMikeS is happy that it worked |
| 04:07:36 | aliask | The recording patch? |
| 04:08:55 | * | aliask sees the CVS log and realises what's going on... |
| 04:09:50 | jhMikeS | aliask: no just a little thing for the lcd |
| 04:10:07 | aliask | Ya |
| 04:11:14 | jhMikeS | I want to get rid of that "pop" at the same point too. |
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| 04:20:58 | dada | http://www.djdada.dl.am RnB/HipHop Songs to Download & Musicclips! check it out ;) |
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| 04:22:25 | dada | http://www.djdada.dl.am RnB/HipHop Songs to Download & Musicclips! check it out ;) |
| 04:22:44 | Mikachu | hooray spamming |
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| 04:26:44 | saratoga | i get this error when I try and build for the 3G w/ profiling |
| 04:26:46 | jhMikeS | aliask: got the message on your attempt with the recording patch...I replied to the email so I don't know where it ended up |
| 04:27:11 | saratoga | plugins/doom/doom.elf section .bss is not within region PLUGIN_RAM |
| 04:27:14 | jhMikeS | aliask: The progess bar thing is the only thing that suprises me |
| 04:27:19 | aliask | aliask: I think the mailing list for the Tracker eats the replies |
| 04:27:29 | aliask | *jhMikeS: |
| 04:27:33 | jhMikeS | :D |
| 04:27:37 | aliask | :P |
| 04:27:48 | jhMikeS | I'll put it up on FS then |
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| 04:28:36 | jhMikeS | I don't think I should have to have all features in place to commit it...just no major bugs |
| 04:28:55 | aliask | I'm looking into the progressbar thing in pcm_record.c |
| 04:29:01 | aliask | But no luck so far... |
| 04:29:03 | jhMikeS | I'll add the features (like frequency)... |
| 04:29:18 | jhMikeS | There shouldn't be one...just peakmeters |
| 04:29:30 | aliask | Can you see what I'm talking about? |
| 04:29:39 | aliask | ie. Are they on the x5 too? |
| 04:29:52 | jhMikeS | no...on x5 this was working quite beautifullly |
| 04:30:02 | aliask | I'll see if I can grab a screenshot |
| 04:30:08 | jhMikeS | You did a full fw update right? |
| 04:30:31 | jhMikeS | The WV codec is slow and yes the codecs boost the CPU as soon as they start. |
| 04:30:41 | aliask | I replaced the .codecs and the rockbox.iriver file, is that enough? |
| 04:31:35 | jhMikeS | I think so...just make a zip and do it again...reset your settings too |
| 04:31:56 | jhMikeS | You patched the latest CVS, no? |
| 04:32:24 | jhMikeS | I did increment the configuration version for that |
| 04:32:37 | aliask | Yes, I grabbed a clean cvs. |
| 04:34:23 | jhMikeS | It turns out it went to 50 between my changing it and someone's update. Now it should be 51 |
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| 04:35:13 | saratoga | is there someway i can disable trying to build doom? i'm not seeing it in the SOURCE files |
| 04:35:24 | Mikachu | it's in SUBDIRS |
| 04:36:01 | aliask | jhMikeS: Clearing the settings and replacing the entire build worked, I just don't know which did it. |
| 04:36:14 | jhMikeS | no more progress bar? |
| 04:36:25 | jhMikeS | probably the settings |
| 04:37:21 | aliask | Aye, well that's the biggest issue with it out of the way. |
| 04:37:44 | jhMikeS | Make sure you test all the inputs mic,line,FM Radio |
| 04:38:05 | jhMikeS | I don't know if you have SPDIF or not |
| 04:38:14 | aliask | H300 doesn't have it, so I can't check. |
| 04:38:22 | aliask | But I've checked FM and Mic |
| 04:38:25 | aliask | Both work fine. |
| 04:38:31 | jhMikeS | cool... |
| 04:38:38 | jhMikeS | No line? |
| 04:38:46 | saratoga | thanks |
| 04:38:53 | saratoga | odd that there was a problem with doom |
| 04:38:58 | saratoga | it shouldn't even be built on the 3G |
| 04:39:31 | aliask | Just went and fetched my line in cable, I'll check it now. |
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| 04:42:30 | aliask | Line in works fine. |
| 04:43:12 | aliask | This patch is excellent though, now I can leave my mp3 player on overnight recording radio shows and not worry about disk space. |
| 04:44:48 | daurn|laptop | o.o |
| 04:44:49 | jhMikeS | go ahead and give it workout |
| 04:45:15 | ryanpg_ | lostlogic, hey right-on with your thoughts on "control" :) |
| 04:48:14 | * | jhMikeS is very controlling |
| 04:49:18 | * | aliask lunches |
| 04:49:35 | jhMikeS | aliask: be sure to leave a good comment there after lunch :) |
| 04:51:10 | * | jhMikeS goes to shower and rejoin the "ranks" of human-like scent. *not THAT bad really* |
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| 04:58:40 | Drkepilogue | hey ppls |
| 04:59:05 | Drkepilogue | just wonder, what kind of work and info will it need to make rockbox compatable with the ipod remore(4g ones) |
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| 05:01:15 | saratoga | what does this line actually do in codec.c: |
| 05:01:17 | saratoga | #define sim_codec_close(x) |
| 05:03:55 | saratoga | nevermind, i guess it would just remove that function call from the code |
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| 05:21:18 | michaelconner | hi |
| 05:21:33 | michaelconner | got a question re: the button remapping thing that's been going on in cvs... is this something that an end user would notice or is it just re-written code? |
| 05:21:59 | Febs | Both, but mostly re-written code. |
| 05:23:09 | michaelconner | i've been playing around with my first new cvs build in a couple of months (5g ipod) −− didn't notice anything immediately different. maybe it'll surprise me. |
| 05:24:35 | daurnimator | MUST.... TERMINATE..... Sarah, no, michaelconner |
| 05:24:45 | michaelconner | heheh |
| 05:25:44 | michaelconner | cool... keep up the good work, folks... |
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| 05:29:06 | Drkepilogue | on the main page, it said something about the first attempt on quickstart |
| 05:29:19 | Drkepilogue | does that mean booting up RB quickier?? |
| 05:29:46 | Soap | 'cause it is SO slow now. |
| 05:29:59 | Drkepilogue | ... |
| 05:30:05 | Drkepilogue | im nto saying it is slow... |
| 05:31:21 | Drkepilogue | im just not sure about its funtion |
| 05:31:23 | scorche | Drkepilogue: not quite sure myself, but if you notice, the change was made to the manual |
| 05:32:07 | Drkepilogue | hmm |
| 05:32:12 | Drkepilogue | didnt notice that |
| 05:32:23 | scorche | Drkepilogue: check the diff |
| 05:35:47 | Drkepilogue | ok |
| 05:35:47 | Drkepilogue | i see |
| 05:35:51 | Drkepilogue | not sure what changed... |
| 05:35:53 | Drkepilogue | but eh... |
| 05:36:13 | Drkepilogue | can u help em on this tho, saw i want to get a code started for ipod remote support |
| 05:36:18 | Drkepilogue | how would i go attempt this |
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| 05:37:47 | Drkepilogue | hey paul, u there? |
| 05:38:26 | sharpe | No, he has his IRC client automated to log in at this time. |
| 05:38:31 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 05:38:33 | Drkepilogue | xd |
| 05:38:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | :-P |
| 05:38:36 | Drkepilogue | xD |
| 05:38:40 | Drkepilogue | rawr |
| 05:38:56 | Drkepilogue | this some sorta suto respond thing now? |
| 05:39:20 | Paul_The_Nerd | Of course. |
| 05:39:29 | Drkepilogue | ah ic ic |
| 05:39:36 | Drkepilogue | owells |
| 05:39:40 | Drkepilogue | ill ask quetion at a later time |
| 05:39:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | I have created a complex series of scripts to pick up key words such as "auto" and combinations such as "ipod" and "not" and "work" and respond with generic replies that sound somewhat like me. |
| 05:40:08 | Drkepilogue | u sure have alot of time on yur hands... |
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| 05:40:13 | sharpe | And that reference the general urls to the manual and wiki. |
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| 05:41:24 | sharpe | That would be really strange if he believed that... |
| 05:42:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 05:43:26 | jhMikeS | :D |
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| 05:54:23 | Febs | Paul_The_Nerd, here's one that your script could have taken care of: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6128.0 |
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| 05:57:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hehehe |
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| 05:58:55 | scorche | Febs / Paul_The_Nerd: did one of you move a post into the old general forums? |
| 05:59:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | It may have been me |
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| 06:00:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: It should be fixed |
| 06:00:34 | scorche | it is |
| 06:01:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | It was me. |
| 06:01:58 | Febs | So I just got a PM from the author of the thread I linked to above asking "in what way does my subject have nothing to do with Rockbox?" |
| 06:02:36 | scorche | heh...in what way *does* it? |
| 06:03:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, he's added that he has Rockbox installed now. |
| 06:04:02 | * | Paul_The_Nerd has now answered his question successfully. |
| 06:05:15 | Febs | Something tells me he won't like the answer. |
| 06:07:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, that's what he gets for saying he knew how to fix it in Apple OS. :) |
| 06:08:13 | Febs | :) |
| 06:08:36 | scorche | lol...nice answer |
| 06:08:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's truthful. |
| 06:08:46 | scorche | i know |
| 06:08:50 | scorche | which makes it all the better |
| 06:09:53 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: curious, what kind of phone *do* you have? |
| 06:10:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: Cingular 2125, also known as the HTC Faraday |
| 06:10:59 | Febs | I think I'm going to change my signature to say something like, "Please explain your problem clearly. My crystal ball is broken." |
| 06:11:06 | * | Paul_The_Nerd grins |
| 06:11:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: It was kinda a desperation purchase. It cost a bit more than I wanted to pay for just a phone, but I needed one that day, I needed one that isn't a clamshell design, and my choices were that, or pay a little MORE for a phone without the PDA functions, but with iTunes instead. |
| 06:12:07 | scorche | ick...rckr? |
| 06:12:13 | scorche | or v3? |
| 06:12:35 | scorche | PDA functions on a phone are quite nice though |
| 06:12:52 | scorche | i used to hate carrying a phone around and my T3 |
| 06:13:14 | Febs | The combination of PDA and phone is essential for me. |
| 06:13:25 | scorche | same |
| 06:13:35 | scorche | i ended up sitting on my T3 |
| 06:13:54 | scorche | and the same time, i believe my wallet emitted some sound |
| 06:14:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, I used to use an old HP Jornada 568. |
| 06:14:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | Back before the HP/Compaq stuff. |
| 06:14:46 | scorche | but, recently, someone i know was getting a new phone, so i was able to get a new phone (his was broken, so i warranty-ed it), and so i now have a treo 650\ |
| 06:15:02 | scorche | i would much rather have a different pda/phone, but you cant argue with free |
| 06:15:14 | Febs | My wallet screamed in pain the day I dropped my Treo on the pavement and cracked the LCD. |
| 06:15:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Free is certainly an acceptable price. |
| 06:15:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ouch |
| 06:15:50 | scorche | yeah..i got my T3 when it was $400 |
| 06:15:57 | scorche | and the top model |
| 06:16:28 | scorche | should have gotten it at CompUSA...their extra warranty covers the screen and accidental damage |
| 06:17:26 | Febs | I found a service plan at Franklin Covey that covers screen damage. |
| 06:17:41 | scorche | handy thing to have.. |
| 06:18:45 | scorche | i am loving the treo though....sooooo much better than a cheap audiovox phone that verizon had for free when signing up for a new plan |
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| 07:51:42 | Crackerizer | Hell, I've checked the source. there is nothing wrong. but i still get the lcd-bitmap.c:29: error: `UI_LCD_BGCOLORLIGHT' undeclared error. |
| 07:51:53 | Crackerizer | Hello, |
| 07:51:58 | Crackerizer | not hell :) |
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| 08:00:02 | amiconn | Crackerizer: YOu're trying to build the sim? For what target? |
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| 08:06:28 | * | amiconn experienced a really strange playback quirk on his H140 :( |
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| 08:07:07 | ootput | does rockbox (in the default setup) consume more battery power than apple's firmware on an ipod mini? |
| 08:07:15 | amiconn | yes |
| 08:07:28 | ootput | amiconn: significantly more? |
| 08:07:43 | amiconn | Depends a bit though - on the mini g2 it's not that bad |
| 08:08:03 | ootput | what's the best way to go about reducing this power consumption? |
| 08:08:10 | amiconn | Rockbox still needs a lot of codec optimisation for ipod |
| 08:08:19 | ootput | oh |
| 08:08:56 | ootput | rockbox ipod power |
| 08:09:06 | amiconn | You can save some power by using other codecs than mp3 |
| 08:09:10 | ootput | err, ^ @ google window |
| 08:09:20 | ootput | yeah, i'm using flac |
| 08:09:35 | amiconn | flac is one of our most efficient codecs |
| 08:10:16 | amiconn | But since it has to load from disk more often, battery runtime will never be as good as with a more compressed formats - provided the codec for the latter is also well optimised |
| 08:10:40 | amiconn | Currently, ogg vorbis is more efficient on ipod than mp3 |
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| 08:10:52 | Galois | or you could just use a flash based disk |
| 08:11:05 | ootput | the iriver products? |
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| 08:11:54 | [HO]vo|t | hello is there a known problemon the iAudio x5 where a "joystick right" press is registered as a "joystick center" press, or may it be my hardware? |
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| 08:14:36 | killa909 | hey gus |
| 08:14:39 | killa909 | guys |
| 08:14:50 | ootput | not particularly |
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| 08:15:30 | killa909 | yo any TERMINAL nerds around to help me out? I really need some help in OS X |
| 08:17:03 | killa909 | really? |
| 08:17:15 | killa909 | i got so much help here the other day |
| 08:17:24 | killa909 | thats really disappointing |
| 08:17:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | Well, among other things, this isn't an OS X support channel. |
| 08:17:55 | killa909 | right |
| 08:17:59 | scorche | your patience is something to be looked up to as well |
| 08:18:05 | killa909 | lol |
| 08:18:10 | killa909 | by my clock i waited 2 minutes |
| 08:18:21 | scorche | wow...a whole 2 min...impressive |
| 08:18:25 | killa909 | good points by both |
| 08:18:42 | killa909 | you know the feeling when something is wrong with your cpu and its just unbearable |
| 08:19:19 | killa909 | well... |
| 08:19:26 | killa909 | that would be an understatement of how i feel |
| 08:19:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yeah. It's when I seek support in the proper places, so I can get help quickly that is actually effective. |
| 08:20:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Asking for help with OS X in a channel that's dedicated to an MP3 player operating system is like signing onto XBox live and asking random people for tips in the new Zelda game. |
| 08:20:05 | killa909 | listen Paul, the only thing thats changed on my machine in the last couple days is this |
| 08:20:28 | ootput | hm, is it worth saving up for an iriver 320? or should i go with a similar ipod offering? |
| 08:20:42 | ootput | or even get a hold of a 120 instead |
| 08:21:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | ootput: Depends on how much you want the hardware differences. |
| 08:21:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | killa909: "this" contains no information that tells me what actually changed. |
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| 08:21:28 | killa909 | it implies, Rockbox |
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| 08:22:26 | Paul_The_Nerd | killa909: Since Rockbox isn't a change you apple to a computer in ANY way, it doesn't imply Rockbox in the slightest. |
| 08:22:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | apply, rather than apple |
| 08:22:52 | amiconn | apple isn't completely wrong in this case ;) |
| 08:23:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Heh |
| 08:23:23 | killa909 | alright, vagaries aside, after the installation process I noticed this problem |
| 08:24:04 | killa909 | regarding volumes on my computer, and some odd invisible representation of them on my hard disk |
| 08:24:16 | killa909 | not an alias, but a representation |
| 08:25:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Again, Rockbox doesn't make any changes to your host system. |
| 08:25:36 | killa909 | Paul, I realize that |
| 08:25:41 | sharpe | Unless you, mistakingly made those changes yourself. |
| 08:26:01 | killa909 | which, I am admitting may very well have possibly happened |
| 08:26:10 | killa909 | although I find it relatively doubtful |
| 08:26:16 | killa909 | its still possible |
| 08:26:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's the only thing that could've happened. |
| 08:26:34 | killa909 | okay |
| 08:26:39 | killa909 | so, I made a mistake |
| 08:26:55 | killa909 | cause I cant tell the difference between cd and ls |
| 08:26:57 | killa909 | sue me |
| 08:27:17 | killa909 | now I have a problem, and I was hoping that some kind soul MIGHT take a few minutes to go over it with me |
| 08:27:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | A) You haven't actually explained very clearly at all what the problem is. |
| 08:27:54 | killa909 | paul, are you offering your services? |
| 08:28:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | B) Because the problem actually has to do with your operating system, and not Rockbox, even if you caused the problem by making a mistake in the Rockbox install, you're most likely to get good help by going somewhere dedicated to OSX support |
| 08:28:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | There are *very* few OSX users in here. |
| 08:28:19 | killa909 | point taken |
| 08:28:26 | killa909 | and this i know |
| 08:28:29 | sharpe | Strange, eh? |
| 08:28:36 | killa909 | but, Im not sure where else to go, honestly |
| 08:28:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | My whole point all along has been that you're quite unlikely to get good help here, because this isn't where the experts you need are. |
| 08:29:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | I would suggest trying to come up with an effective way to describe your problem, the googling for appropriate keywords. |
| 08:29:24 | killa909 | the problem is relatively simple... |
| 08:31:00 | killa909 | somehow, a ghost folder representing my volumes was created or activated in the cpu's consciousness... so lets say when a program creates a file, like my web browser saving a file, azureus downloading a torrent, etc the files are saved in an invisible folder... |
| 08:31:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | killa909: http://macosx.com/tech-support/ask/ <−− Maybe here? Claims to be free Mac OS-X tech support. |
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| 08:31:50 | Doomed | hey |
| 08:32:09 | sharpe | killa909: For all intensive purposes, I'd suggest you use OS instead of CPU... |
| 08:32:48 | killa909 | its, "intents and purposes" point taken... true it is the OS |
| 08:34:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | As I've said, it's highly unlikely you'll even find an OS X user here at any given point in time. Asking the questions here is just delaying your actually getting an answer from an effective source. |
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| 08:34:12 | killa909 | I really think the nature of the problem is more well suited to a chat type forum, rather than a BBS |
| 08:34:42 | sharpe | killa909: Well, that's not really up to us, now is it...? |
| 08:34:49 | killa909 | nope... |
| 08:34:57 | killa909 | stab in the dark |
| 08:34:58 | Doomed | i use osx |
| 08:35:01 | Doomed | osx86 |
| 08:35:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Again, even if it's more suited to chat, asking in the wrong place isn't going to make the wrong place more suited to answer your question. |
| 08:35:30 | Doomed | anyway im having trouble updating this source to the latest cbs |
| 08:35:32 | [HO]vo|t | Paul_The_Nerd you are active in this channel like 24/7 go to bed man :) |
| 08:35:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 08:35:56 | killa909 | I was, in fact, given good support in the installation process in this channel |
| 08:36:14 | [HO]vo|t | killa909 that's because you were installing rockbox, not troubleshooting osx :/ |
| 08:36:18 | Doomed | osx user trying to put rockbox on ipod ? |
| 08:36:30 | killa909 | Doomed, no |
| 08:36:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: OSX user who has non-Rockbox problems seeking help. |
| 08:36:38 | Doomed | lol |
| 08:36:42 | killa909 | AKA, dont help < |
| 08:36:44 | Doomed | why come in here? |
| 08:36:49 | killa909 | okay okay |
| 08:37:13 | killa909 | Ill say this, last night while frustrated with my computer, playing Chess on the ipod was quite consoling |
| 08:37:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | I mean, I'm not trying to be mean. |
| 08:37:35 | Doomed | k so i have this source dl, now im in cgywin but i cant get it to be updated |
| 08:37:41 | Paul_The_Nerd | But I honestly can't help, and I know many of the other people in here probably can't either, so I'm just trying to direct you to some better ideas. |
| 08:37:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: "can't get it to be updated"? |
| 08:38:08 | Doomed | to the latest cvs |
| 08:38:24 | killa909 | alright guys |
| 08:38:26 | killa909 | goodnight |
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| 08:38:48 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: If you're downloading the source archive, don't you just download the newest one and extract it, and compile there?' |
| 08:38:52 | Doomed | http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/remartinelli/html/rockbox.html |
| 08:39:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | We can't support his source. Any reason it may not compile could be something he's changed. |
| 08:39:48 | Doomed | ok |
| 08:39:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | As well it would actually be illegal to download from him in the USA |
| 08:40:12 | Doomed | but i dont need to compile before i update the source right |
| 08:40:14 | Doomed | why is that? |
| 08:40:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | Because he's distributing copyrighted arcade ROMs with it. |
| 08:40:44 | Doomed | lol which? |
| 08:40:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Pacman. |
| 08:41:07 | Doomed | o |
| 08:41:14 | Doomed | its not listed |
| 08:41:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | It is included, though. |
| 08:41:27 | Doomed | in the source too>? |
| 08:41:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | I don't know. |
| 08:41:35 | sharpe | I doubt it. |
| 08:41:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doesn't seem like something you'd include with a source-only build. |
| 08:41:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or rather non-build |
| 08:41:55 | Doomed | yeah |
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| 08:42:04 | Paul_The_Nerd | Either way, for problems with his source, contact him. |
| 08:42:13 | Doomed | but i dont need to compile to update with the cvs correct? |
| 08:42:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you're downloading source, the whole purpose of source is to be compiled. |
| 08:42:49 | Doomed | yes |
| 08:43:05 | Doomed | but i want to update it to the latest cvs, since his is a month old |
| 08:43:14 | sharpe | Oh well. Pretty sure I should have gone to sleep a few hours ago. |
| 08:43:19 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then apply the same patches he does. |
| 08:43:22 | sharpe | Goodnight. |
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| 08:43:30 | ghode|afk | does anyone know how i can find out what files are causing my tagcache building to fail? |
| 08:43:40 | Doomed | so i guess i cant just combine? |
| 08:44:01 | Slasheri | ghode|afk: how does it fail? |
| 08:44:17 | Slasheri | any particular file shouldn't cause tagcache build to fail |
| 08:44:36 | Paul_The_Nerd | Doomed: There's not really an easy way, no. |
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| 08:44:46 | Doomed | damn ok |
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| 08:45:27 | * | Doomed wishes that guy made one giant patch |
| 08:46:00 | Galois | it wouldn't help |
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| 08:46:10 | Doomed | why |
| 08:46:31 | Galois | if you can't patch his rockboxsource.zip up to cvs, then neither would you be able to patch cvs up to his giant patch |
| 08:46:48 | Doomed | i get to cvs up -dP |
| 08:46:49 | Doomed | then nothing |
| 08:47:05 | Doomed | dunno if im logging in wrong or i have to make that rockbox-devel folder |
| 08:47:10 | ghode|afk | Slasheri: looking at the debug menu it gets to file 377 then my player freezes |
| 08:47:14 | Galois | that's not normal. normally cvs will give you a failure message when it fails. |
| 08:47:25 | ghode|afk | I have to then reboot it (ipod 5g) |
| 08:47:32 | Galois | I suggest trying cvs _without_ funky patches and make sure it works normally first |
| 08:47:41 | Slasheri | ghode|afk: ah, so it completely freezes. then the metadata reader has a bug |
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| 08:47:59 | Slasheri | ghode|afk: do you have an iriver player with the remote? |
| 08:48:20 | ghode|afk | yes h140 somewhere, dont know where the remote is though :/ |
| 08:48:46 | Slasheri | because with a logf build you could be able to find that file.. or using the simulator |
| 08:48:47 | Doomed | hm im thinkin im just fking up somewhere |
| 08:48:48 | Doomed | later |
| 08:49:26 | ghode|afk | anyway i can get one for my ipod? |
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| 09:08:23 | Crackerizer | Sorry, i'm back. |
| 09:08:23 | Crackerizer | amiconn: 3g ipod. |
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| 09:10:32 | Crackerizer | test message. |
| 09:12:30 | amiconn | Slasheri: Do you have an idea what might cause the following bug? I resumed a playlist, which worked correctly. But a few minutes later playback just stopped, and then resume told me "Nothing to resume" although the playlist did definitely not end for real. |
| 09:12:36 | amiconn | H140 |
| 09:12:50 | Crackerizer | amiconn: sorry, i'm back. |
| 09:13:05 | Crackerizer | amiconn: i built it for 3g ipod. |
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| 09:13:45 | amiconn | Hmm, no 3G sim in the cvs builds. Maybe the UI defines are missing for 3G |
| 09:14:09 | amiconn | I'll check as soon as my targets builds will finish |
| 09:14:51 | amiconn | What's the backlight colour of a 3G? White? |
| 09:15:15 | Crackerizer | Ah, There is no UI definitions for 3g. |
| 09:15:22 | Crackerizer | white, yes. |
| 09:15:52 | amiconn | Ok, so I'll just copy the colour from the mini build. |
| 09:16:20 | Crackerizer | amiconn: when will you commit to the cvs? |
| 09:16:20 | * | amiconn ponders replacing the UI bitmaps which are currently made from scans by versions made from the SVGs |
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| 09:27:55 | Crackerizer | where is the rockbox API page? |
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| 09:35:50 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, that sounds weird |
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| 09:49:38 | amiconn | Slasheri: Hmm, looks like it was my fault. Didn't notice shuffle was enabled (!) |
| 09:52:28 | amiconn | Weird eh! |
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| 10:22:03 | amiconn | Hmm, there is a somewhat serious problem in the action stuff :/ |
| 10:22:56 | amiconn | get_action() returns the same value (ACTION_NONE), regardless whether an unassociated button was pressed or it returns from a timeout |
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| 10:24:08 | amiconn | So it's impossible to make requests with automatic timeout work properly, at least without tracking time separately. |
| 10:24:25 | amiconn | I guess the latter is not the intention of the action stuff... |
| 10:26:36 | amiconn | There's another problem - I can't see an easy way to have plugins add their own contexts. |
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| 10:41:11 | Massa | Hi everybody! |
| 10:41:44 | Massa | Anybody here who wants to discuss token based WPS parsing? |
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| 10:47:44 | Crackerizer | where is the rockbox api page? |
| 10:47:57 | Crackerizer | any reference? |
| 10:48:15 | daurn|laptop | rockbox.org/api |
| 10:48:18 | daurn|laptop | j\k |
| 10:48:19 | midkay | can't you search the wiki? what exactly are you looking for? |
| 10:49:13 | linuxstb_ | Crackerizer: There's no single "API page". There's some documentation for developers in the wiki, but otherwise you can either read the source or ask specific questions here. |
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| 10:50:41 | dan_a | linuxstb_: Any luck with the COP yet? |
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| 10:58:31 | Crackerizer | linuxstd_: i'm trying to trace the rockbox's code. it is better to know where a function is. |
| 10:58:49 | JdGordon | evening all |
| 10:58:53 | daurn|laptop | hi |
| 10:59:03 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: australian? |
| 10:59:08 | JdGordon | yup |
| 10:59:14 | daurn|laptop | yay! |
| 10:59:19 | Massa | Somebody here who wants to discuss some problems I have with token based WPS parsing? I need some ideas ;) |
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| 11:00:02 | Massa | Hi JdGordon - BTW, here it is nearly noon :-p |
| 11:00:27 | JdGordon | ye.. well.. dont look forward to the rest of the day.. nothing special : |
| 11:01:22 | Massa | I'm currently working on a whole new WPS parsing concept - actually I made good progress, but now I've some problems with conditionals and tags inside conditionals. |
| 11:01:51 | JdGordon | there is a token based wps patch on FS.. have u seen it? |
| 11:02:25 | Massa | There are two, and I looked at both - I used safetydans version as base - but now it changed a lot :) |
| 11:02:47 | JdGordon | :) |
| 11:03:04 | dan_a | amiconn: I can't get test_gray2 to work. If I run the plugin then press "select" without adjusting the wheel, nothing happens, and I can't exit with menu. If I restart and adjust the wheel a small amount, wait 30 seconds and then press select, nothing happens. |
| 11:03:22 | Massa | I need an idea how to store tags inside other tags (conditionals effectively - normally I would use a tree but I don't have the memory for that!? |
| 11:03:43 | JdGordon | why not? |
| 11:04:18 | JdGordon | you cant just point to a spot in an array? |
| 11:04:43 | Massa | Currently I just have an array of tokens which are just straight forward. The array has a fixed maximum size. I could change it to be a pointer list - but how do create and delete nodes without memory management? |
| 11:05:37 | Massa | So you mean each array element could have a pointer to the next tag? |
| 11:06:01 | JdGordon | ye, either that, or just build a tree of pointers into your array |
| 11:06:16 | JdGordon | which is bassically the same as malloc() anyway, but with a static buffer |
| 11:06:44 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: No, not yet. |
| 11:07:42 | Massa | Or maybe have two arrays - one with the tokens and their data and one which contains just pointers to the first array and represents the logical structure. |
| 11:08:00 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 11:08:24 | Massa | Wouldn't it make it again to complicated to understand? One of my goals was to make the WPS parsing more understandable for other developers... |
| 11:08:55 | JdGordon | depends how you did it.. but yes... but no worse than it is now tho? |
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| 11:09:40 | Massa | I hope not :) - at least it will be much much easier to implement new tags. |
| 11:11:02 | JdGordon | well then thats good isnt it? |
| 11:11:05 | Massa | I currently use an array of a fixed structure with all available tags. It contains the tagname, the number of parameters as "normal" tag, the number of parameters as "conditional" and some function pointers for parsing, preload action and loading action. |
| 11:11:41 | Massa | Most of the tags use a default parsing function - only a few (e.g. the RTC tag) need their own parsing function. |
| 11:14:39 | Massa | Every tag has it's necessary action functions (either only preloading, like "%xl" or only loading, like "%xd" - or maybe both, if needed). The action functions are used to do the "work" of the tag and will be called automatically by the parsing code. |
| 11:15:16 | Massa | So I hope adding a new tag means to add a new entry to the "all_tags" array and implement the action functions - that's it! |
| 11:16:04 | JdGordon | sounds good |
| 11:16:36 | JdGordon | rememebr.. if it ends up increasing the binary size.. fudge the results, or dont mention it untill its commited :D |
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| 11:18:01 | Massa | Of course I will not say anything about the binary size - until I'm sure it's smaller than now (which I doubt) ;) |
| 11:18:12 | JdGordon | :D |
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| 11:23:37 | JdGordon | Bagder: you know how you didnt like that dummy item i had in the menu struct? I figured out a way so its usable.. so no more naughty buggers :D |
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| 11:30:12 | JdGordon | sweet! this works |
| 11:30:22 | JdGordon | we can now exit from any submenu straight back to the wps |
| 11:32:30 | Massa | Cool :D |
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| 11:43:32 | amiconn | dan_a: odd... |
| 11:43:37 | * | amiconn rechecks the code |
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| 11:44:47 | JdGordon | does anyone know if it is possible to use __VA_ARGS__ but put something between each arg? |
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| 11:45:58 | amiconn | JdGordon: I don't think that's possible |
| 11:46:18 | JdGordon | i doubt i t alsoo, but better ask and make sure :p |
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| 11:46:34 | amiconn | JdGordon: There's a problem that prevents making the shutdown screen on recorder v1 work properly with actions... |
| 11:46:47 | JdGordon | oh? |
| 11:46:49 | amiconn | Check the log startin 10:22 |
| 11:46:54 | amiconn | *starting |
| 11:47:09 | JdGordon | k |
| 11:47:34 | amiconn | We need to be able to distinguish between ACTION_NONE and a timeout |
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| 11:48:09 | JdGordon | oh, yes, Ive been meaning to fix that.. I wanted to change it to ACTION_TIMEOUT and keep ACTION_NONE sepearete.. but keep forgetting |
| 11:48:26 | amiconn | Addding e.g. ACTION_TIMEOUT should be simple, but it might influence other places. |
| 11:48:32 | amiconn | That needs checking |
| 11:48:39 | JdGordon | i dont think it will be too difficult.. |
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| 11:49:00 | amiconn | The other problem is that I can't see how it would be possible to use special contexts in plugins |
| 11:49:01 | JdGordon | I tinhk its just a matter of replacing _NONE with _TIMEOUT on most screens |
| 11:49:32 | amiconn | Not replacing... both actions can be returned, and need either the same or different handling |
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| 11:50:17 | amiconn | If I add the changes you suggested, the shutdown screen works for shutdown, but it doesn't disappear automatically if I don't want to shutdown |
| 11:50:35 | JdGordon | the way I statred doing that for plugins was put a whole list of standard lists (one for directions, one for actions), then the plugin would pass an array of these lists in the order it wants them checked and the plugin lib would take care of that.. it worked, but I accidently deleted the fles |
| 11:50:36 | amiconn | That's where the timeout action is needed |
| 11:51:18 | amiconn | dan_a: Does scrolling back & forth work in test_gray2? |
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| 12:09:49 | Crackerizer | amiconn: hello, is codes for 3g ipod updated? |
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| 12:12:23 | dan_a | amiconn: I'm not quite sure. It seems to, but that might be my imagination |
| 12:12:48 | amiconn | Scrolling back & forth should change the moving black "block" on the display |
| 12:13:07 | amiconn | Change the way it moves, that is |
| 12:14:37 | * | JdGordon kicks self for being so brilliaant! |
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| 12:35:49 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: would you like to have a look at m4a that generates an endless loop inside the metadata parser? |
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| 12:39:30 | JdGordon | :'( no one wants to comment on my menu reworking code |
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| 12:41:10 | Crackerizer_b | I did copy the UI profile of 4g for 3g ipod, they have the same lcd size. but i dont know about the others. |
| 12:42:49 | Crackerizer_b | and i use the same ui image as 4g. (dumb?, but i dont have a 3g picture.) |
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| 12:49:35 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: Sure. There's a patch on the patch tracker which should improve the m4a parsing - it's about time I had a look and committed it. |
| 12:49:39 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: in fact the file works with xine but not with mplayer.. mplayer generates same problem as rockbox: "FATAL: EOF while searching for sequence header." |
| 12:49:47 | Slasheri | ah, that sounds good |
| 12:49:54 | Slasheri | linuxstb_: do you have dcc? |
| 12:50:10 | linuxstb_ | It's worked in the past... Give it a shot. |
| 12:50:57 | Slasheri | works well :) |
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| 12:51:25 | linuxstb_ | I'm jealous of your 210KB/s upload... |
| 12:51:46 | daurn|laptop | o.o |
| 12:51:49 | daurn|laptop | 210kb/s |
| 12:51:54 | daurn|laptop | thats 21* time |
| 12:51:56 | daurn|laptop | mine |
| 12:52:15 | linuxstb_ | Slasheri: Works fine in my version of mplayer - which is a very recent SVN version (a week or two old). |
| 12:52:37 | linuxstb_ | But it does say "MOV: missing data (mdat) chunk! Maybe broken file..." |
| 12:52:43 | Slasheri | interesting.. then i have older version of it |
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| 12:57:20 | dan_a | amiconn: The block is scrolling very quickly, so I can't tell if it is working or not |
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| 13:14:19 | amiconn | dan_a: Hmm, odd. The block scrolling very quickly does mean my frequency estimation is quite a bit off. So the grayscale lib's display quality would profit from correcting it. |
| 13:15:07 | amiconn | I wonder what could be wrong with the buttons - the plugin is even hard-codec for ipods. No CONFIG_KEYPAD checks at all |
| 13:15:58 | dan_a | You said it might lock up if I scrolled too far - could it be locking up because of the frequency estimation being too far out? |
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| 13:19:18 | amiconn | I doubt it. In that case, the grayscale plugins should also lock up. They use half the frequency - but update the whole screen, while test_gray2 only updates 1/4 of the screen |
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| 13:31:31 | daurn|laptop | yoyoyoyo |
| 13:31:54 | preglow | yoyoyoyo wassupwassupwassup |
| 13:32:08 | XavierGr | hahaha |
| 13:32:18 | Bger | lolololol |
| 13:32:54 | daurn|laptop | kekekekeke |
| 13:37:38 | amiconn | Hmm, does doom work in the sim for anyone? |
| 13:37:48 | amiconn | It doesn't want to start here at all |
| 13:37:59 | amiconn | Tried both X5 and H120 |
| 13:38:01 | amiconn | sims |
| 13:39:48 | linuxstb_ | I'm sure it worked in the past for me.. Try a colour ipod or H300 sim. |
| 13:40:31 | linuxstb_ | In fact, it must have worked - I'm sure I implemented the sim version of the "doom tick". |
| 13:42:10 | amiconn | Yes, I know that it has worked in the past. |
| 13:42:28 | amiconn | It also worked in cygwin, which does now fail |
| 13:42:56 | amiconn | Running in gdb displays: |
| 13:42:57 | amiconn | warning: LDR: LdrRelocateImageWithBias() failed 0xc000007b |
| 13:43:03 | preglow | amiconn: sims don't work at all for me |
| 13:43:16 | amiconn | ...and some other addresses when I try to run doom |
| 13:43:29 | amiconn | preglow: oh? |
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| 13:45:33 | amiconn | doom is the largest simulator plugin by far. >1MB |
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| 13:47:42 | rretzbach | Hi. |
| 13:49:27 | markun | hi rretzbach |
| 13:49:58 | rretzbach | Can you please tell me how do I check, whether my rb version is up-to-date? |
| 13:50:32 | daurn|laptop | cvs update |
| 13:50:54 | markun | rretzbach: rockbox is updated all the time |
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| 13:51:52 | rretzbach | Is it easy to compile rb in win32? |
| 13:52:15 | preglow | amiconn: sdl sound problems |
| 13:52:26 | preglow | which i'm unable to understand |
| 13:52:35 | preglow | sdl sound works just fine here, but not in the rockbox sim |
| 13:52:44 | amiconn | Then it should still work w/o sound |
| 13:53:05 | preglow | nope |
| 13:53:12 | preglow | it hangs whenever something sound happens |
| 13:53:18 | amiconn | sdl and the various linux sound implementations are a mess |
| 13:53:25 | preglow | it's got nothing to do with that |
| 13:53:32 | preglow | sdl sound works, as i said |
| 13:53:34 | amiconn | I had to experiment for quite a while until I got it working |
| 13:53:34 | preglow | just not with the sim |
| 13:54:04 | amiconn | (and I have no gnome system sounds now - not that important though) |
| 13:55:03 | preglow | first thing i do is switch those off anyway |
| 13:55:04 | preglow | i hate system sounds |
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| 14:00:09 | XavierGr | I agree with preglow on that |
| 14:00:20 | XavierGr | system sounds are very annoying at times |
| 14:00:55 | amiconn | Annoying or not - it should be possible to make them work together with other sound output |
| 14:01:35 | amiconn | ...but the Linux way of having a dozen different, incompatible techniques to do the same things seems to get in the way |
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| 14:04:53 | XavierGr | I agree with amiconn on that. Linux on sound just suck a little bit |
| 14:06:12 | preglow | it does indeed |
| 14:06:24 | preglow | everything but alsa and jack should just be thrown away |
| 14:06:43 | preglow | and that's pretty much what's happening, so lucky us |
| 14:07:12 | preglow | but it's not really a problem, if you've got a well set up distro, things should just work |
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| 14:07:26 | amiconn | Well, if alsa were capable of serving more than one sound source at once, it would be okay |
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| 14:07:59 | Mikachu | amiconn: it can |
| 14:08:15 | amiconn | Mikachu: It definitely can't do that here |
| 14:08:28 | amiconn | ...on 2 different systems |
| 14:08:36 | Mikachu | but you either need a) a soundcard capable of hardware mixing and alsa driver support or b) not use the oss interface (ie /dev/dsp) |
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| 14:09:25 | preglow | amiconn: it can here |
| 14:09:26 | preglow | easily |
| 14:09:28 | preglow | it's driver dependant |
| 14:09:33 | amiconn | I have set up sdl to use alsa. That works - until I enable gnome's esd (which afaik also uses alsa) |
| 14:09:39 | preglow | amiconn: and if you use the plughw outputs, it does mixing in software as well |
| 14:09:45 | Crackerizer | how to build .rockbox directory? or i need to create it manually? |
| 14:10:04 | preglow | amiconn: that's not really any different from what windows does |
| 14:10:10 | preglow | it's also driver dependent |
| 14:10:14 | amiconn | It is different from windows |
| 14:10:23 | preglow | no, it's not |
| 14:10:33 | amiconn | I never encountered problems with playing several sounds at once on windows |
| 14:10:36 | preglow | using some sound cards, i can't use the same interface in windows |
| 14:10:39 | preglow | no, YOU didn't |
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| 14:10:52 | preglow | i also have no problems with multiple apps using alsa |
| 14:11:03 | amiconn | How do you set that up?? |
| 14:11:09 | preglow | use a soundblaster live |
| 14:11:13 | preglow | and it works out of the box |
| 14:11:25 | amiconn | I've seen dozens of windows systems with all kinds of sound hardware |
| 14:11:27 | Mikachu | i think dmix should also work out of the box, but since i have an sblive i haven't checked |
| 14:11:28 | preglow | also, like i said, if you use the plughw: outputs of alsa, it'll mix in software |
| 14:12:04 | amiconn | Why isn't it set up that way out of the box? |
| 14:12:16 | preglow | it's up to the applications what they use |
| 14:12:20 | preglow | and the app codecs are torn, it seems |
| 14:12:26 | preglow | some software uses plughw by default, some hw |
| 14:12:53 | preglow | it's very nice, if you ask me. this way the user himself gets to choose whether to use the quick or the slow sound card interface |
| 14:12:57 | Mikachu | can't you specify the default in .asoundrc? |
| 14:13:02 | preglow | Mikachu: maybe |
| 14:13:15 | preglow | s/app codecs/app coders/, btw |
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| 14:16:48 | Crackerizer | can uisimulator run on linux? does it need fat file system? |
| 14:18:03 | Crackerizer | i just built it successful. i put the .rockbox folder to where rockboxui is. but rockboxui shows there is no .rockbox folder.. |
| 14:18:23 | amiconn | The simulated root is the archos/ directory |
| 14:18:26 | Bger | Crackerizer: put it in the archos subfolde |
| 14:18:27 | preglow | Crackerizer: unzip rockbox.zip into archos( |
| 14:18:30 | preglow | archos/ |
| 14:18:35 | preglow | ok, you probably got the point now |
| 14:18:37 | amiconn | And you don't need to create .rockbox manually, just 'make install' |
| 14:18:53 | * | preglow didn't know about make install |
| 14:18:59 | Crackerizer | thank you. |
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| 14:23:45 | amiconn | preglow: 'make install' is just 'make fullzip' followed by unzipping to archos/ |
| 14:24:12 | daurn|laptop | yay |
| 14:24:19 | daurn|laptop | nes emulation at its best |
| 14:24:36 | JdGordon | :'( bloody 1100 bytes |
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| 14:25:36 | amiconn | hrmpf |
| 14:25:55 | amiconn | The H300 sim crashes on linux when it wants to output voice |
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| 14:29:55 | pixelma | tucoz: around? |
| 14:30:01 | tucoz | yep |
| 14:30:37 | amiconn | It's mpa.codec that segfaults.... also when trying to play mp3 tracks |
| 14:31:27 | amiconn | Strangely it works on cygwin |
| 14:31:40 | preglow | there's a bug in mpa.codec still for 64 bit systems |
| 14:31:46 | preglow | at least i haven't fixed it |
| 14:32:06 | amiconn | That's probably the cause then |
| 14:32:50 | preglow | i haven't even found it, actually |
| 14:32:56 | preglow | it was a bit elusive |
| 14:33:13 | amiconn | It segfaults in synth_full, synth.c line 998 |
| 14:37:29 | preglow | it does? i didn't get that clear a message |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | [Switching to Thread 1166059872 (LWP 2700)] |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | 0x00002aaaaac18ea0 in synth_full (synth=0x2aaaaad2e880, frame=0x2aaaaad32740, |
| 14:40:12 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK amiconn |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | nch=1, ns=36) at synth.c:998 |
| 14:40:12 | amiconn | 998 pcm[-sb] = SHIFT(MLZ(hi, lo)); |
| 14:44:30 | preglow | i hope that's a gcc bug |
| 14:44:34 | preglow | what type is sb? |
| 14:44:42 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 14:44:42 | * | preglow remebers he can check himself :> |
| 14:45:01 | preglow | as i thought |
| 14:45:04 | preglow | it's an unsigned int |
| 14:45:11 | preglow | that'll break on 64 bit systems |
| 14:45:24 | Mikachu | can you have negative stuff in []? |
| 14:45:27 | preglow | sure |
| 14:45:36 | preglow | problem is, that's not negative on 64 bit systems |
| 14:45:40 | preglow | it's very positive |
| 14:45:44 | Mikachu | i see |
| 14:46:05 | amiconn | That's no gcc bug then |
| 14:46:25 | preglow | nope |
| 14:46:30 | amiconn | doom seems to have a similar problem |
| 14:46:42 | amiconn | It freezes on 64bit linux, but works on 32bit linux |
| 14:48:27 | amiconn | preglow: Shouldn't it work if it's first cast to int (or long) and then negated? |
| 14:48:50 | preglow | probably |
| 14:48:54 | preglow | better would be to alter the type |
| 14:49:02 | preglow | make it signed, if possible, or an unsigned long if not |
| 14:49:08 | amiconn | Hmm, maybe not if the number is supposed to be negative before negating |
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| 14:52:04 | amiconn | It seems to only ever run from 15 to 0, so int should be ok |
| 14:54:07 | amiconn | Now it crashes at a different point... |
| 14:54:20 | preglow | that kind of 64 bit bug is my favourite |
| 14:54:23 | preglow | i see it all the time |
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| 14:55:26 | amiconn | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 14:55:27 | amiconn | [Switching to Thread 1166059872 (LWP 4334)] |
| 14:55:27 | amiconn | 0x00002aaaaac12336 in mad_frame_decode (frame=0x2aaaaad32740, |
| 14:55:27 | amiconn | stream=0x2aaaaad326c0) at frame.c:451 |
| 14:55:27 | amiconn | 451 if (decoder_table[frame->header.layer - 1](stream, frame) == -1) { |
| 14:56:19 | preglow | these bugs should probably be reported to the libmad author as well |
| 14:56:24 | preglow | if no one has already |
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| 15:03:50 | amiconn | preglow: Same kind of mistake, only less obvious.... |
| 15:04:40 | amiconn | Hmm, not really |
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| 15:05:24 | amiconn | print frame.header->layer |
| 15:05:35 | amiconn | $1 = 3319614278 |
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| 15:46:13 | ranunculoid | What exactly is the "boost ratio" in the audio thread? Do lower values here mean less cpu usage? |
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| 15:46:20 | Mikachu | yes |
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| 15:47:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Basically the processor alternates between boosted and unboosted, and the ratio represents what percentage of the time it's having to stay boosted. |
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| 15:51:54 | preglow | _ARRRRRGGHGHGG_ |
| 15:52:20 | amiconn | Hmm. It's the sound what makes doom hang on X5. With sound disabled it works |
| 15:52:46 | preglow | linux just _HUNG_ |
| 15:52:47 | preglow | very pretty |
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| 15:53:20 | Mikachu | oh no, doomsday is here |
| 15:53:50 | ranunculoid | Thanks Paul_The_Nerd. Is there an audioscrobbler plugin for rockbox by any chance? (That'd be so cool) |
| 15:54:02 | preglow | and worse yet, my complete browser tab history of about twenty tabs _vanished_ |
| 15:54:03 | preglow | bagh |
| 15:54:33 | preglow | i'm willing to bet it's fucking csound being the idiot |
| 15:54:41 | Mikachu | no nvidia or such? |
| 15:54:59 | Mikachu | hm, does csound run with realtime privs? |
| 15:55:38 | belze | ranunculoid: that would only be possible on a few platforms, as you need a rtc for that |
| 15:56:44 | Mikachu | does it _have_ to know when you played it? |
| 15:56:58 | ranunculoid | belze: Which platforms is it possible on and how do I know if I have an rtc :D |
| 15:57:03 | Bger | preglow: sysrq ? |
| 15:57:14 | linuxstb_ | ranunculoid: Does Rockbox display the time in the top-right corner? |
| 15:57:25 | ranunculoid | Yup |
| 15:57:26 | belze | Mikachu: yes |
| 15:57:30 | linuxstb_ | Then you have an RTC. |
| 15:57:43 | ranunculoid | real-time clock |
| 15:57:45 | ranunculoid | cool |
| 15:57:50 | linuxstb_ | I think it's just the iriver h1x0 that doesn't. |
| 15:58:09 | Mikachu | speaking of rtc, whatever happened to the calendar plugin? |
| 15:58:23 | pixelma | linuxstb_: and the Ondio ;) |
| 15:58:35 | amiconn | And the player |
| 15:58:36 | ranunculoid | So does one actually exist or was that just a hypothetical prerequisit? |
| 15:58:49 | belze | ranunculoid: none exists so far |
| 15:58:54 | ranunculoid | :( |
| 15:59:05 | Mikachu | that isn't exactly true |
| 15:59:11 | Mikachu | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5166 |
| 15:59:57 | belze | oh, sorry then |
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| 16:51:03 | amiconn | Ahahaha, seems I've found the cause for doom hanging with sound on X5 |
| 16:51:17 | amiconn | It is pure luck that it works on iriver. |
| 16:51:20 | PaulJam | " for the battery level, the first enum is used when the level is unknown" - i'm not sure if i understand that correctly. under what circumstances would the batterylevel be unknown? |
| 16:51:43 | amiconn | The coldfire has two SRAM blocks, only one of which is DMA capable. |
| 16:52:24 | amiconn | The MCF5249 (irivers) has 64KB (DMA) + 32KB (non-DMA), split into 48KB for core and 48KB for plugin usage. |
| 16:52:40 | amiconn | Result: The first 16KB of plugin IRAM is DMA capable, the rest is not |
| 16:53:14 | amiconn | But the SCF5250 has 64KB (DMA) + 64KB (non-DMA), split into 80KB for core and 48KB for plugin usage |
| 16:53:28 | amiconn | Result: all plugin IRAM is incapable of DMA |
| 16:53:48 | amiconn | Now doom places the sound 'mixbuffer' in IRAM - and sound playback uses DMA... |
| 16:53:48 | Lear | pauljam: don't ask me, battery_level can apparantly return -1 sometimes... :p |
| 16:53:58 | Mikachu | maybe for the sim? |
| 16:54:11 | Mikachu | or new ports where battery reading isn't implemented, like ipods 3 months ago |
| 16:55:55 | * | amiconn prepares to prove his theory |
| 16:58:13 | Genre9mp3 | I can't understand that either (about the first enum of battery level) |
| 16:58:19 | PaulJam | so then i guess i can savely ignore the first enum and leave it blank. thanks. |
| 16:58:29 | Lear | It appears it can actually only be -1 very early on (or not yet implemented). The -1 check was present before in the WPS code, so I just moved it to a better place. |
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| 16:59:04 | amiconn | It used to be -1 for the first minute after boot, in order to let the battery level readout stabilise before displaying it |
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| 17:00:08 | * | amiconn would like to split IRAM differently on X5 than it is now |
| 17:00:31 | Genre9mp3 | But now, after that commit, battery indicatiors in WPS have changed behavior |
| 17:01:06 | Lear | A little, yes. They show a bit too high, but it's not that bad, is it? |
| 17:01:11 | Lear | And it is easy to fix. |
| 17:02:11 | amiconn | Yay! My theory was correct! :-) |
| 17:03:45 | Genre9mp3 | Well, I don't think it's good idea to the let the user know that he has "enough" battery while this is not the case... |
| 17:03:50 | markun | amiconn: good catch |
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| 17:05:23 | karim | hello |
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| 17:05:45 | Genre9mp3 | Lear: Can this be fixed to the old behavior easily? |
| 17:06:52 | Lear | Well, yes, but the old wasn't really correct either. If the level was -1, the wps would show full battery... |
| 17:07:22 | markun | karim: hi |
| 17:07:35 | markun | are you mirak? |
| 17:08:39 | karim | yes |
| 17:08:45 | Lear | Oops, just realized it will handle the -1 case incorrectly... :) |
| 17:08:57 | PaulJam | Genre9mp3: i guess you only have to replace every occurance of "%?bl<" with "%?bl<|" in every wps. |
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| 17:09:56 | Lear | Or add a proper image... |
| 17:10:13 | Genre9mp3 | PaulJam: Do you think that altering all these wps is a good idea for the users? |
| 17:10:20 | Lear | (No, it will be handled correctly, but in the "wrong" way... :) ) |
| 17:11:34 | PaulJam | Genre9mp3: i think at least the wps that are in cvs should be adapted to the new syntax. |
| 17:12:43 | Genre9mp3 | Most of the wps represent the battery with 4 steps. Now you get 1 out of 4 even at 1% while before you would get none out of 4 |
| 17:12:54 | Genre9mp3 | PaulJam: And what about other wps? |
| 17:13:39 | Genre9mp3 | I mean it would be better if we could avoid this... |
| 17:14:09 | Genre9mp3 | If there's a way to implement this -1 correctly without "break" all the wps |
| 17:14:42 | Lear | Not with dynamic enums, no... |
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| 17:15:36 | Lear | Btw, before the change, there were actually 6 battery levels... |
| 17:15:58 | Genre9mp3 | Lear: How many battery levels are now? |
| 17:16:24 | pixelma | as I understand you can have as many as you like |
| 17:16:30 | Lear | As many as there are images, minus one. |
| 17:16:54 | Genre9mp3 | ok |
| 17:17:32 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS should be updated for people to know |
| 17:19:19 | Genre9mp3 | So it's actually %?bl<-1|0|1|2|...|N> now, right? |
| 17:20:51 | Lear | Yes. |
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| 17:22:40 | Genre9mp3 | And the volume? %?pv<0|1|2|...|N> (there isn't -1 there, right) ? |
| 17:23:33 | Lear | Correct. (I'm editing the Wiki right now, btw) |
| 17:24:15 | Genre9mp3 | Lear: Oh... I was asking to change it myself... but yes. It's better you do it. :) |
| 17:25:14 | PaulJam | Lear: while you are editing, you could remove the "A-B (Archos only so far)" from the description of the %mm tag. |
| 17:25:32 | Lear | You mean the "archos only" part? |
| 17:25:42 | PaulJam | yes |
| 17:26:00 | amiconn | Most targets have A-B repeat nowadays, but not all |
| 17:27:16 | PaulJam | oh, i thought all softwarecodec targets have a-b repeat. |
| 17:27:28 | pixelma | but the wps tags don't distinguish between targets who have that or not |
| 17:28:21 | amiconn | PaulJam: It depends on the number ov available buttons, not on codec |
| 17:28:31 | amiconn | Archos recorder was the first to have A-B repeat |
| 17:28:38 | amiconn | s/ov/of/ |
| 17:29:29 | pixelma | oh ok it's the last entry... so you could leave it out (for the Ondio) |
| 17:29:57 | pixelma | in the enum part I mean |
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| 17:32:27 | Lear | Ok, wiki updated, with the "mm" fix. |
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| 17:58:09 | daurn|laptop | so |
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| 17:58:17 | daurn|laptop | who can port rocbox for me? |
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| 18:58:37 | Rob2222 | Is there a reason, why there is no /font dir in the daily builds anymore? |
| 18:58:46 | Ribs | yes |
| 18:58:51 | Ribs | it's a seperate download these days |
| 18:58:56 | Soap | fonts=big |
| 18:59:12 | Soap | and not updated enough to justify a new download every day. |
| 18:59:32 | Rob2222 | ah ok. roger |
| 18:59:59 | Rob2222 | so fnt files are not out of date ;) |
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| 19:05:26 | BockBilbo | hello |
| 19:06:41 | markun | hi |
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| 19:09:08 | BockBilbo | is there any app for win or linux to build the tag cache from a pc instead of making it with rockbox? |
| 19:09:22 | BockBilbo | aqui hay un ejemplo de uso |
| 19:09:22 | BockBilbo | http://www.litoweb.net/pfn2/ |
| 19:09:35 | BockBilbo | yo lo q he hecho ha sido cambiarle el css |
| 19:09:38 | BockBilbo | xa q se adapte a mi web |
| 19:09:52 | BockBilbo | la instalacion es sencilla |
| 19:09:54 | Soap | BockBilbo - there is no such app, and this is an English only channel |
| 19:10:02 | BockBilbo | o my bad.. wrong channel |
| 19:10:03 | BockBilbo | :S |
| 19:10:08 | BockBilbo | Soap, isnt there? |
| 19:10:53 | BockBilbo | mmm Soap and do you think that its possible to do it? |
| 19:11:12 | BockBilbo | i think it will be very usefull |
| 19:11:15 | Soap | It is possible |
| 19:11:38 | * | Genre9mp3 wonders if the simulator can do such a thing |
| 19:11:57 | PaulJam | didn't someone adjust the script for the old TagDb to work with tagcache? |
| 19:12:03 | markun | Genre9mp3: probably |
| 19:12:11 | Soap | it is more properly refered to as a UI simulator, is it not Genre9mp3? |
| 19:12:56 | Soap | markun - I didn't realize the simulator ran such code, I thought it stoped at interface level stuff. |
| 19:13:13 | markun | Soap: I used it to test some tagcache stuff |
| 19:13:20 | BockBilbo | mmm |
| 19:13:21 | BockBilbo | ok |
| 19:13:21 | Genre9mp3 | Soap: You can run plugins in the sim as well |
| 19:13:26 | Soap | I was wrong! |
| 19:13:27 | BockBilbo | so i might do a little script on python |
| 19:13:49 | BockBilbo | is tagcache fully documented on the wiki? |
| 19:15:59 | Genre9mp3 | BockBilbo: Are the info here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache enough for you? |
| 19:16:57 | BockBilbo | mmm i guess |
| 19:17:03 | BockBilbo | i will have to take a look |
| 19:17:22 | BockBilbo | ive already made an script to access to the mp3 id3 tags |
| 19:17:29 | BockBilbo | so this shouldnt be hard |
| 19:17:29 | Genre9mp3 | That's why I gave you the link ;) |
| 19:18:09 | Genre9mp3 | BockBilbo: So you plan to make that app you asked for? |
| 19:18:39 | BockBilbo | i guess |
| 19:18:44 | BockBilbo | but like in a month or so |
| 19:18:50 | BockBilbo | i have to do some exams before |
| 19:18:51 | BockBilbo | ;) |
| 19:19:12 | BockBilbo | though, im only going to make it for mp3 files |
| 19:19:25 | Genre9mp3 | Well, best of luck on that then... I guess :P |
| 19:19:28 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
| 19:19:41 | BockBilbo | if someone then wants to add some ofther feature, he'll have the code available |
| 19:19:47 | BockBilbo | :) |
| 19:19:48 | BockBilbo | well |
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| 19:19:52 | BockBilbo | im leaving |
| 19:19:56 | BockBilbo | thanks! |
| 19:19:57 | BockBilbo | bye! |
| 19:20:02 | Genre9mp3 | bye |
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| 19:21:27 | rotator | bah, the seeking algorithm in libflac is braindead, time to come up with a better one... |
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| 19:26:44 | linuxstb_ | rotator: Seeking in FLAC is much easier with seektables... |
| 19:27:07 | rotator | i'm have sample-accurate seeking almost done ;) |
| 19:27:19 | rotator | s/i'm/i |
| 19:27:28 | PaulJam | BockBilbo: in case you read the log, on june 28. hardeep committed a change to the songdb.pl to support tagcache: " Re-adding songdb.pl with support for tagcache. Works with mp3 and has partial support for ogg." |
| 19:27:55 | rotator | i'm adapting the libflac routines to work with out ffmpeg implementation |
| 19:28:43 | rotator | the main problem is with files without seektables, the libflac algorithm works, but it's sloooooow |
| 19:30:22 | linuxstb_ | I wish Josh had just made seektables compulsory in FLAC files... |
| 19:30:42 | linuxstb_ | Compared to the size of a FLAC file, a 1-second seektable is insignificant. |
| 19:30:47 | rotator | it would make things much easier |
| 19:32:35 | rotator | right now libflac makes a best guess jump into the file, then traverses frame by frame until it hit the target |
| 19:32:52 | rotator | and sometimes the guess is off by hundred of frames |
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| 19:33:19 | rotator | for long files without a seektable, that is |
| 19:33:24 | linuxstb_ | And doesn't it walk through all the frames individually in order to find the right one? |
| 19:33:48 | rotator | yes, which is very slow if it's off by a lot |
| 19:34:01 | linuxstb_ | IIRC, the sync-bytes that mark a frame header can also appear in the middle of a frame... |
| 19:34:13 | rotator | and worse if it's guess overshoots and need to walk backwards |
| 19:34:29 | linuxstb_ | All these things made be not even attempt to implement seeking outside the seekpoints. |
| 19:34:42 | rotator | yep, i already have the frame sync algorithm implemented |
| 19:35:07 | rotator | now you can jump to any offset and sync to the next frame |
| 19:35:52 | rotator | just a few bugs left then i think i'll have something ready to commit |
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| 19:37:14 | Genre9mp3 | Wow...730 rockbox users already |
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| 19:38:23 | rotator | on rasher's map, i take it? |
| 19:38:36 | rretzbach | Is there a way to sort a playlist by filepaths? |
| 19:38:46 | Genre9mp3 | rotator: yes |
| 19:38:47 | rotator | haha, the map takes a while to load now |
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| 19:40:35 | preglow | i wish there was some way to mask out selected groups |
| 19:40:45 | preglow | like only seeing devs, etc |
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| 19:41:17 | preglow | why are there devs listed i've never heard of anyway? :> |
| 19:42:24 | rotator | hooray, there are finally users on the map within 100 miles of me! |
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| 19:44:58 | markun | preglow: wibbix is one of the gigabeat porters |
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| 19:46:00 | Angyrmanh10 | Hi everybody... Anyone in here who could answer a short WPS related question ?? |
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| 19:59:28 | pill | hi |
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| 20:00:12 | pill | i'm wondering if i should flash rockbox into RAM |
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| 20:07:22 | San | hey |
| 20:07:29 | San | whats an ATA -71 error? |
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| 20:10:57 | markun | San||Away: "set_multiple_mode() - not RDY" |
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| 20:11:10 | ootput | hi guys, how do i navigate the 'save .cfg' screen? I can input/delete chars fine, but how do i save the file itself (ipod mini) |
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| 20:14:06 | markun | San: when do you get that error? |
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| 20:17:04 | rretzbach | I love rockbox, tho I just have an ihp 120 it's awesomely great and totally incomparable to the default firmware's features. |
| 20:17:26 | rretzbach | I just wanted to say that :) Thank you. |
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| 20:21:32 | belze | rretzbach: yes, i also use it on an iriver |
| 20:21:46 | rretzbach | This sounds like you got one of the h300 series. |
| 20:22:35 | belze | no, i have the h110 |
| 20:22:47 | belze | or as it was called earlier iHP-100 |
| 20:23:10 | lex | heh |
| 20:23:11 | rretzbach | Ahh. So it's the same as mine. |
| 20:23:16 | lex | i just bought a 300GB hd for 45 euros :) |
| 20:23:19 | belze | almost |
| 20:23:24 | belze | nice deal |
| 20:23:36 | rretzbach | lex small enough for the mp3 player? ;) |
| 20:23:39 | lex | rretzbach: yeah :p |
| 20:23:50 | lex | it was so cheap so i had to buy it |
| 20:24:00 | lex | it will replace my 60GB IDE maxtor :p |
| 20:24:10 | rretzbach | So your "yeah" was a lie? |
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| 20:24:24 | lex | maybe it was |
| 20:24:33 | lex | but s-ata is not connectable to my ipod |
| 20:24:33 | rretzbach | You intentionally manipulated me? |
| 20:24:37 | lex | but my IDE maxtors would be |
| 20:24:42 | lex | something like that |
| 20:24:48 | rretzbach | Tho nice deal. |
| 20:25:09 | rretzbach | But an mp3 player with >=100GB would be nice too |
| 20:25:23 | lex | and it has a guarantee to the year 2010 |
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| 20:25:45 | lex | yep |
| 20:25:54 | lex | but 20GBs is enough for my musics |
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| 20:26:10 | rretzbach | I think there will be some development in the next 4 years in the storage device branch. |
| 20:26:18 | rretzbach | lex, same here |
| 20:26:31 | lex | :) |
| 20:26:47 | lex | rretzbach: http://www.engadget.com/2005/03/14/the-300gb-ipod-and-you/ take a look at that ;) |
| 20:26:54 | rretzbach | There is a limit to how many tracks you like simultaneous. |
| 20:27:00 | lex | but you might need a good power source for the hd |
| 20:27:07 | rretzbach | trve |
| 20:27:24 | lex | the hd could suck the ipod so dry in a few minutes |
| 20:28:20 | rretzbach | hrhr |
| 20:29:03 | rretzbach | So beside buying the external iHDD you need an iCrank? |
| 20:30:40 | lex | :P |
| 20:30:45 | lex | yea |
| 20:30:52 | rretzbach | ;) |
| 20:31:09 | lex | and iCable, iBattery, iCase, iTape... |
| 20:31:19 | rretzbach | I just found out, after using rockbox for ~5months how to change themes :\ |
| 20:31:25 | lex | :D |
| 20:31:29 | rretzbach | I just changed the on playing wps :\\\\ |
| 20:31:37 | rretzbach | But there are WHOLE themes. |
| 20:32:08 | rretzbach | Now I have a reason to setup the development env. |
| 20:32:17 | rretzbach | I'll make my own wps. |
| 20:32:34 | Febs | You don't need a development environment to make a WPS. |
| 20:32:38 | lex | so do you have an ipod? photo or 4g? |
| 20:32:42 | rretzbach | Febs: Yes. |
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| 20:32:58 | rretzbach | lex, ihp 120 |
| 20:33:04 | Soap | setting up the dev enviroment simply for making WPSs is kind of overkill. |
| 20:33:08 | lex | ;o |
| 20:33:18 | rretzbach | Soap: I thought about writing a plugin too. |
| 20:33:46 | rretzbach | But "overkill" hmmm. I think I might learn something by doing so. |
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| 20:35:32 | rretzbach | And I have colinux already installed. |
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| 20:37:10 | ootput | hi guys, how do i navigate the 'save .cfg' screen? I can input/delete chars fine, but how do i save the file itself (ipod mini) |
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| 20:38:36 | ootput | ah, nvm, hold center button |
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| 21:12:41 | old45 | trying to understand rockbox on my H120, to empty the recycled folder; do I do it on my CP through the USB and windows exploer or can I do it from the player. |
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| 21:15:26 | old45 | I have installed one daily build and I see one hex file in the recycled folder, can I delete the hex file and will the next daily build also move a hex folder to the recycled folder? |
| 21:15:32 | evoGage | hi people I need help with TagCache |
| 21:16:38 | old45 | I think they are all taking a nap |
| 21:17:15 | evoGage | looks like it or that they are lazy lol |
| 21:17:16 | Bger | old45: that hex file (i bet it's the patched iriver fw with the rockbox bootloader) is probably moved to the recycled folder when u've deleted it |
| 21:17:28 | Bger | evoGage: ask |
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| 21:17:55 | exec182 | hy |
| 21:18:41 | evoGage | i'll explain anyway, I'm having problem with TagCache completing building the libery. It'll like do its job for about 1min and then the iPod'll freeze requireing a reboot |
| 21:19:12 | San | hey |
| 21:19:16 | San | (11:07:27) (San) whats an ATA -71 error? |
| 21:19:16 | San | (11:07:37) (San) i |
| 21:19:17 | San | (11:07:27) (San) whats an ATA -71 error? |
| 21:19:17 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK San |
| 21:19:17 | San | (11:07:37) (San) i |
| 21:19:21 | San | whats an ATA -71 error? |
| 21:19:27 | San | i got it while it was connected to USB on the H300 |
| 21:19:36 | San | its about the 3rd time I got it in 2 months I got it |
| 21:21:08 | old45 | Bger> do I delete the rechcled files with the CP or with the palyer? I assume anything in there is safe to delete. |
| 21:21:24 | Bger | yes |
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| 21:21:33 | rotator | San: <markun> San||Away: "set_multiple_mode() - not RDY" |
| 21:21:37 | rotator | from earlier |
| 21:21:50 | Bger | this "Recycled" folder is the recycle bin for this drive |
| 21:22:00 | old45 | OK |
| 21:22:38 | old45 | I have not figured out how to delete with the player H120 |
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| 21:22:57 | old45 | I can delete with cofidance in windows |
| 21:23:06 | San | ty rotator |
| 21:23:45 | Bger | San: u're Sanitarium @ MR, yep ? |
| 21:23:55 | San | yes |
| 21:23:56 | old45 | strange that it does not show in windows exploer when I has show all hidden files selected |
| 21:24:33 | Bger | San: hm, can u recommend some eye-candy WPS-es for standard (CVS) builds (H3xxx) |
| 21:24:39 | old45 | I can see it in windows xp recycle folder alsong with all files I have deleted from my pc |
| 21:24:54 | San | yeah, sure |
| 21:24:56 | Bger | old45: yep, that's normal |
| 21:25:41 | old45 | thanks |
| 21:25:41 | San | you want them now or whenever? |
| 21:25:48 | Bger | now :) |
| 21:25:52 | San | ok |
| 21:26:02 | San | Artic_Desert is nice |
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| 21:26:40 | San | any of the Ajants are good |
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| 21:27:45 | San | Green Player |
| 21:28:09 | San | *GreenNew v1.2 |
| 21:28:14 | San | thats the actual name ^^ |
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| 21:28:35 | San | want more? |
| 21:28:43 | Bger | searching for these atm :) |
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| 21:29:33 | San||Away | i am pinging alot today |
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| 21:29:34 | San||Away | :( |
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| 21:29:49 | San | did you get any of thoes i posted? |
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| 21:31:03 | Bger | still searching for the first one |
| 21:31:23 | San | i'll have a look aswell |
| 21:31:36 | XavierGr | wow Bager is in MisticRiver! :D |
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| 21:32:03 | Bger | :P |
| 21:32:12 | San | http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=452411&postcount=187 |
| 21:32:34 | San | or this is the newer version: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=462254&postcount=192 |
| 21:33:05 | Bger | San: ty, but it seems this requires the album art patch.. |
| 21:33:28 | San | oh, ok |
| 21:33:36 | San | this one doesn't: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=393467&postcount=85 |
| 21:34:25 | Bger | ty :) |
| 21:34:37 | San | this one looks good aswell: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=390708&postcount=79 |
| 21:35:00 | Genre9mp3 | Bger: http://www.misticriver.net/showpost.php?p=396431&postcount=93 (Arctic Desert) |
| 21:35:17 | San | ah, you found it |
| 21:35:18 | San | :) |
| 21:35:29 | Bger | :)) |
| 21:35:39 | Bger | this one is beautiful :) |
| 21:36:00 | San | yeah, I love it |
| 21:36:28 | Bger | Genre9mp3: ty too |
| 21:36:44 | San | I just need to find somewhere which sells 2200mAh batterys and doesn't cost a fortune to ship to Ireland and then I can use it |
| 21:36:47 | San | :) |
| 21:37:09 | Bger | ah, u have problems with your battery too ? |
| 21:37:23 | San | yeah, only getting 4 hours now |
| 21:37:39 | San | and to make it worse the charging plug is broken aswell |
| 21:37:40 | Bger | mine is slowly dying ... |
| 21:37:42 | San | the pin in it broke |
| 21:37:46 | Bger | ah |
| 21:37:51 | San | but I have a new one coming |
| 21:38:05 | San | I have to charge via usb and thats a pain |
| 21:38:15 | Bger | i can imagine ... |
| 21:38:45 | Bger | i'm waiting for my visa card to buy a battery .. |
| 21:39:25 | San | you gonna get the 2200mAh? |
| 21:40:22 | Bger | yep, but i'll probably go for the NuPower one ... |
| 21:40:35 | Bger | or was it newertech |
| 21:40:44 | San | the iPod one? |
| 21:40:50 | San | for 29.99? |
| 21:40:50 | Bger | yeah |
| 21:40:53 | San | ah |
| 21:40:59 | San | i was looking at that too |
| 21:41:14 | San | but it is30$ to ship it to me |
| 21:41:45 | Bger | hm? iirc it's ~ $24 to Bulgaria |
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| 21:42:28 | San | yeah? |
| 21:42:33 | San | still, I think it is too much |
| 21:42:47 | Bger | yep... |
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| 21:43:00 | San | there is anoter company |
| 21:43:05 | San | *another |
| 21:43:29 | Bger | hmmm? what company ? |
| 21:43:33 | San | Cameron Sino i think |
| 21:43:48 | San | but they dont have prices on their website, IIRC |
| 21:43:59 | Bger | http://www.cameronsino.net/ ? |
| 21:44:20 | San | yes |
| 21:44:53 | Bger | http://www.cameronsino.net/mp3-iriver.htm |
| 21:45:10 | San | yup |
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| 21:46:31 | Bger | hm, do you happen to remember whether the 2200 ipod battery fits into the player without removing the blue HDD "protectors" ? |
| 21:46:58 | San | i think it does |
| 21:47:08 | San | have a look at Denny's tutorial on MisticRiver |
| 21:47:17 | San | i'm not sure though |
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| 21:48:11 | belze | Bger: i replaced mine on the h110 and it fits perfectly, so it should also work on the h3xx |
| 21:48:43 | San | http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=48052&doy=26m8 |
| 21:48:45 | Bger | belze: good to hear, 10x |
| 21:48:46 | San | that looks good |
| 21:49:59 | XavierGr | San: the error you reffered to is at firmware/drivers/ata.c |
| 21:50:53 | XavierGr | lines 1981, 396, 1769 |
| 21:51:03 | XavierGr | though I don't understand what it means |
| 21:51:09 | San | i didn't mess with the code though |
| 21:51:26 | San | it is an old-ish~ daily build |
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| 22:57:26 | blx | can't wait to try this project out! |
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| 23:21:00 | blx | markun, an iAudio X5L is on it's way |
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| 23:31:26 | * | ender` yawns |
| 23:32:41 | karim | Bger no it doesn't fit |
| 23:33:49 | karim | san I bout it on http://www.batteryupgrade.com/product_detail.php?productId=18292211 |
| 23:34:06 | karim | the shiping cost is included in the price |
| 23:34:31 | karim | hum maybe if you are not in europe or US it's different ? |
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