| 00:00:02 | Bagder | wow, lots of them |
| 00:00:04 | linuxstb | Is that a record? |
| 00:00:06 | amiconn | I'd prefer a monochrome display though |
| 00:00:15 | Bagder | haha |
| 00:00:21 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, it is |
| 00:00:34 | preglow | i think you'd better get used to never seeing monochrome displays |
| 00:00:37 | preglow | again |
| 00:00:39 | amiconn | Bagder: Readability without draining the battery |
| 00:00:45 | jhMikeS | The patch adds 57 bytes total for archos |
| 00:00:50 | amiconn | 57?? |
| 00:00:53 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 00:00:59 | * | amiconn wonders how that could be possible |
| 00:01:03 | linuxstb | preglow: Small and cheap flash players still have mono displays... |
| 00:01:10 | jhMikeS | Just the basic player |
| 00:01:48 | jhMikeS | I'll check ondio |
| 00:01:48 | amiconn | The binary size is always a multiple of 4... |
| 00:02:00 | linuxstb | barrywardell, Bagder: Any other clever suggestions? |
| 00:02:12 | amiconn | The worst case (code-size wise) is the fm recorder |
| 00:02:15 | jhMikeS | I included the contents of the zips |
| 00:02:18 | jhMikeS | all fils |
| 00:02:27 | jhMikeS | uncompressed |
| 00:02:31 | amiconn | The main binary is what's most important |
| 00:02:36 | jhMikeS | which is what? |
| 00:02:47 | * | linuxstb can try using the reset to indicate if ata_init() returns 0 or not... |
| 00:03:04 | amiconn | It's best to compare the size of rockbox.bin |
| 00:03:15 | jhMikeS | I see archos.mod |
| 00:03:27 | barrywardell | i remember having to use fsync and a delay to make sure the file actually got written to disk |
| 00:03:27 | Bagder | linuxstb: yeah, using the reset to indicate success/failure for things perhaps |
| 00:03:29 | amiconn | Not in the zip |
| 00:04:28 | linuxstb | barrywardell: fsync? I didn't realise Rockbox had it... |
| 00:04:28 | amiconn | ajbrec.ajz (or archos.mod in case of the player) is the scrambled rockbox.bin with a small header, but for some targets (recorder v1 atm) it's unsuitable for code size comparisons |
| 00:05:03 | jhMikeS | for archos.mod: 169,510 (no patch), 169,558 (patch) |
| 00:05:18 | amiconn | There is a maximum firmware size the archos loader can load, and if we exceed that limit (which we do on recorder v1 :/) the build system makes a self-extracting version |
| 00:05:35 | amiconn | ok |
| 00:05:46 | jhMikeS | Then what should I be comparing exactly |
| 00:05:53 | barrywardell | linuxstb: well it does. the file sometimes didn't get written unless I used it and a 1 second delay |
| 00:06:09 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What works for all archos targets is the rockbox.bin size |
| 00:06:22 | amiconn | apps/rockbox.bin in the build dir |
| 00:06:27 | barrywardell | i'm not sure if they were both necessary |
| 00:06:27 | linuxstb | It seems ata_init() doesn't return 0. Now to find out what it does return... |
| 00:06:43 | amiconn | But for player, archos.mod works equally well |
| 00:06:54 | amiconn | (should be 6 bytes larger than the bin iirc) |
| 00:07:31 | Bagder | linuxstb: just make sure you verify the opposite too so that you can see that the method works |
| 00:07:36 | amiconn | barrywardell: Closing the file also syncs it |
| 00:08:23 | amiconn | Hmm |
| 00:08:57 | * | amiconn thinks the assortment of firmware files for the various targets should be explained somewhere |
| 00:09:22 | jhMikeS | for both: 169,552 |
| 00:10:12 | * | jhMikeS has to go get some dinner |
| 00:10:34 | * | barrywardell learns something new every day |
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| 00:11:55 | amiconn | linuxstb: 12 buttons is a record. 2nd place are the iriver lcd remotes (11 buttons), followed by the archos recorders (10 buttons) |
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| 00:13:38 | amiconn | preglow: Well, if the manufacturers would use colour lcds like those in the blackberry 82xx devices, they would more acceptable to me |
| 00:14:05 | | Quit tritoch (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:14:14 | amiconn | I simply want a display where I don't need to drain the battery in order to be able to read anything |
| 00:14:14 | linuxstb | Bagder: Good point - it seems that ata_init() never returns... |
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| 00:18:46 | markun | Bagder: when I try to browse to the fonts dir with the cvs browser I'm redirected to the fonts download page.. |
| 00:18:52 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/fonts/ |
| 00:19:04 | Bagder | oh |
| 00:19:42 | Bagder | fixed |
| 00:19:59 | dwihno_ | tarp: är du nöjd med buss.pl? |
| 00:20:03 | markun | thanks |
| 00:20:04 | dwihno_ | wup, sorry |
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| 00:21:00 | preglow | lastebil.pl |
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| 00:24:09 | jhMikeS | Should I CVS this thing or what? :) *getting itchy* |
| 00:25:43 | billytwowilly | if you're getting itchy I recommend you go to a doctor before you do anything else... |
| 00:26:00 | jhMikeS | I'll go to Dr. Commit then |
| 00:26:27 | billytwowilly | praise jesus. jhMikeS is cured of his horrible lack of commitment... |
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| 00:26:51 | * | Bagder likes commits |
| 00:27:14 | jhMikeS | billytwowilly: haha...but I still have a dedication problem |
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| 00:28:37 | jhMikeS | Should I start a forum thread for complaints (if any...I doubt it much now) or just wait for FS bug reports? |
| 00:29:12 | billytwowilly | yah, k, you know more about cvs than I do becuase I'm not sure what the dedication thing is... |
| 00:29:19 | mirak | what a moron !!!! |
| 00:29:25 | * | billytwowilly is ashamed that he has been out geeked |
| 00:29:27 | Bagder | jhMikeS: if there are bugs they will be reported and creep up anyway |
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| 00:29:40 | mirak | i didn't understood why my modifications weren't working |
| 00:29:55 | mirak | I was doing make and unziping to the H300 |
| 00:30:06 | jhMikeS | Bagder: I just don't wanna be banished for breaking stuff...it's a big change but seems to work very well |
| 00:30:07 | * | mirak wasn't doing make zip ... |
| 00:30:12 | mirak | lol |
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| 00:32:28 | jhMikeS | will new files be added to the tree automatically using cvs commit -m"" |
| 00:33:26 | mirak | fps improved a lot lately on the h300 |
| 00:33:45 | Bagder | jhMikeS: you need to 'cvs add' new files |
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| 00:34:02 | jhMikeS | Bagder: The new files are already added |
| 00:34:11 | mirak | +4 fps since I tried the cvs version |
| 00:34:20 | Bagder | jhMikeS: ah, the plain commits will work fine yes |
| 00:34:47 | jhMikeS | ok...up it goes...*putting on full body armor* |
| 00:34:55 | * | Bagder buckles up |
| 00:35:26 | mirak | I reassure you that it's the only day I wasn't doing make zip ... |
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| 00:35:36 | Bagder | let's see if you can beat slasher's 1000 blame points |
| 00:35:54 | preglow | have you forgotten my high score?!?! |
| 00:36:02 | Bagder | yes ;-) |
| 00:36:16 | preglow | unfortunately, so have i |
| 00:36:21 | preglow | i'll need to find it in the logs |
| 00:36:51 | Bagder | we have more builds now so there's a bigger ability to score high |
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| 00:39:17 | preglow | yet i scored so high with fewer builds |
| 00:39:35 | Bagder | pure skill |
| 00:39:53 | jhMikeS | says english.lang still seems to contain conflict indicators...I never got any that i recall |
| 00:40:08 | Bagder | +<<<<<<< english.lang |
| 00:40:12 | Bagder | +======= |
| 00:40:16 | Bagder | +>>>>>>> 1.267 |
| 00:40:35 | jhMikeS | Hmmm....I don't remember that ever coming up |
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| 00:40:51 | Bagder | they're clearly visible in the commit mail ;-) |
| 00:40:56 | jhMikeS | It also says *_enc.c was lost |
| 00:41:07 | jhMikeS | but they were added |
| 00:41:14 | Bagder | yeah, cvs says that about newly added files at times |
| 00:41:26 | Bagder | ignore it |
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| 00:41:47 | jhMikeS | I'll fix english.lang real quick |
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| 00:43:30 | mirak | I am above 27 fps with elephant dream 176*96 on the H300 by using some iram |
| 00:43:55 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 00:44:12 | mirak | I put the memory block where idct is performed in iram. |
| 00:44:29 | jhMikeS | save your settings |
| 00:44:31 | mirak | in fact that big struct should be stripped down |
| 00:45:42 | * | jhMikeS runs for cover |
| 00:47:23 | Nico_P | mirak: what fps did you get before your changes with that video ? |
| 00:47:24 | * | Bagder pats the cvs build system. nice work there |
| 00:48:13 | mirak | Nibbier: 22 something |
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| 00:48:30 | mirak | it lacks an average with a number of frame to do the timing |
| 00:49:01 | Nico_P | what bitrate is your file ? |
| 00:49:09 | jhMikeS | error in powermgnt.c for FM boot. Should add an #ifndef BOOTLOADER eh? |
| 00:49:10 | mirak | don't know |
| 00:49:19 | jhMikeS | For fm radio that is |
| 00:49:26 | Nico_P | because i get much higher fps than 22 |
| 00:49:28 | mirak | Nico_P: but it's smaler than the screen |
| 00:49:49 | mirak | Nico_P: the problem is that the fps fluctuates to much |
| 00:49:50 | Bagder | jhMikeS: yeah, the bootloader should hardly have radio stuff... |
| 00:49:59 | Nico_P | yeah i used the same one, 176x96 |
| 00:50:59 | Nico_P | isn't it the average framerate that's displayed ? |
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| 00:51:07 | jhMikeS | Why has the FM always been getting "Flash is full" all week? |
| 00:51:20 | Sivart0 | hello people :) |
| 00:51:25 | Bagder | because nobody has fixed it |
| 00:51:28 | jhMikeS | Bagder: What about audio_status() call for bootloader |
| 00:51:39 | mirak | Nico_P: frame rate per second |
| 00:51:47 | mirak | Nico_P: it fluctates a lot |
| 00:52:02 | mirak | my asm thing doesn't work :-/ I don't know why |
| 00:52:10 | Bagder | time for some good old-fashioned sleep |
| 00:52:29 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I tried the mpegplayer again and this time it was doing 15.6 |
| 00:52:39 | jhMikeS | Bagder: g'night |
| 00:52:51 | Nico_P | "This option displays the average number of frames decoded per second" |
| 00:53:04 | preglow | bhargh, i don't mention the actual score number in the logs! |
| 00:53:21 | Nico_P | that means it tends to fluctuate less and less |
| 00:53:27 | mirak | is there a way to replace something like "pointer->field" by just "field" using a #define ? |
| 00:55:16 | pixelma | jhMikeS: [00:05:21] <amiconn> There is a maximum firmware size the archos loader can load, and if we exceed that limit (which we do on recorder v1 :/) the build system makes a self-extracting version |
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| 00:57:57 | mirak | if you have a struct bla { int i; int16_t bla[64] ; int j} will there be 64 consecutive words between &i and &j ? is there a way to make ->bla a somewhere to iram ? |
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| 00:58:44 | Sivart0 | im having problems installing rockbox =/ |
| 00:59:19 | Sivart0 | err |
| 00:59:47 | jhMikeS | pixelma: The error has been up for some time...it's not my cause...I'm aware of the constraints on certain devices. |
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| 01:00:11 | * | linuxstb does the ATA driver dance |
| 01:00:27 | dan_a | Well done linuxstb! |
| 01:00:28 | Sivart0 | i have it installed, but the appleOS cant find the songs |
| 01:00:31 | barrywardell | linuxstb: what was the problem? |
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| 01:00:44 | jhMikeS | Another build should start soon to fix the FM Boot problem |
| 01:00:53 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I'm not quite sure... |
| 01:00:59 | pixelma | jhMikeS: I didn't say it was caused by you but should answer your question... |
| 01:01:20 | * | barrywardell has had that experience quite a few times |
| 01:01:29 | dan_a | Sivart0: Do you mean that the songs which were there before have now disappeared in Apple OS? |
| 01:01:40 | Sivart0 | yes |
| 01:01:46 | Sivart0 | its never done that before |
| 01:02:00 | dan_a | Can you still see them in Rockbox? |
| 01:02:03 | Sivart0 | yes |
| 01:02:16 | jhMikeS | pixelma: I understand it so I know know why you repeated that again...I asked -why- to mean, "what was added that caused it in particular" if anyone knew. |
| 01:02:44 | jhMikeS | pixelma: Just wanting to know the details...that's all. |
| 01:03:50 | pixelma | ok sorry then :) |
| 01:03:56 | * | jhMikeS is happy to see everything else green though :) |
| 01:03:56 | dan_a | Sivart0: That sounds to me like maybe your iTunes database has got corrupted - it shouldn't be anything which Rockbox has done which has caused that |
| 01:04:23 | Sivart0 | it only does it when i install the bootloader |
| 01:05:03 | amiconn | Bagder: I wonder why it spits 'region flash is full' for the fm but not the v2 |
| 01:05:27 | amiconn | The binaries should be identical - and both builds were made on the same build server (!) |
| 01:05:39 | * | jhMikeS is waiting for the FM Boot update build to start...why so long? |
| 01:06:10 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, th e'region flash is full' is a different thing than the archos loader limit. |
| 01:06:34 | jhMikeS | amiconn: too much data for the flash memory right? |
| 01:06:41 | amiconn | It happens when building rombox, i.e. a binary variant that can be run directly from flash |
| 01:06:48 | jhMikeS | Archos loader limit is in it's boot ROM right? |
| 01:07:02 | amiconn | The archos flash rom is 256KB |
| 01:07:06 | preglow | woot |
| 01:07:12 | * | preglow encodes mp3s |
| 01:07:19 | amiconn | That has nothing to do with the archos disk loader. It only applies to flashed boxes |
| 01:07:39 | * | preglow wants mono recording too |
| 01:07:43 | linuxstb | barrywardell: There seems to be two problems: 1) calling yield() (which happens in ata.c) seems to cause a freeze; and 2) The auto-detection of partitions doesn't seem to work (the Elio doesn't have a partition table) |
| 01:07:44 | jhMikeS | ok...unless I had an Archos I don't think I'll fully understand that |
| 01:07:45 | preglow | does the mp3 encoder support that? |
| 01:08:08 | jhMikeS | mp3 encoder itself supports VBR (i think), all bitrates, stereo/mono. |
| 01:08:15 | jhMikeS | Mono is explicitly supported |
| 01:08:26 | amiconn | 256KB minus the flash loader minus bootbox (our failsafe backup boot) leaves 232KB (player) resp. 228KB (all other archoses) for flashing rockbox itself |
| 01:08:30 | jhMikeS | Sample rate not yet |
| 01:08:55 | amiconn | The fmr version has grown beyond that... |
| 01:09:26 | jhMikeS | So you load what you can in flash and get the rest from disk? |
| 01:09:33 | amiconn | nope |
| 01:09:34 | preglow | jhMikeS: sample rate will need more work for sure |
| 01:09:42 | preglow | but this looks just great |
| 01:10:01 | jhMikeS | Thank Toni too |
| 01:10:16 | jhMikeS | It's 44100 for now. |
| 01:10:22 | amiconn | If the unit is flashable _and_ the user decides to flash it, the whole core resides in flash |
| 01:10:28 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 01:10:30 | amiconn | Super-fast boot time |
| 01:10:44 | jhMikeS | How much flash is on the x5? |
| 01:10:52 | jhMikeS | 4MB? |
| 01:11:06 | jhMikeS | But that boots so damn fast anyway |
| 01:11:06 | amiconn | The only things loaded from disk are the music (of course, hehe), plugins, fonts etc |
| 01:11:15 | amiconn | Damn fast? |
| 01:11:28 | amiconn | X5 boot is a bit better than iriver, but for me it's slow... |
| 01:11:30 | jhMikeS | Booting rb on x5 is pretty quick |
| 01:11:42 | barrywardell | linuxstb: a bit unusual not having a partition table. is there just one partition? |
| 01:11:43 | jhMikeS | Can't wait what 5sec if that? |
| 01:11:46 | amiconn | On archos, boot time is 3.5 .. 5 seconds |
| 01:12:06 | amiconn | That is, from pressing On to playing music |
| 01:12:14 | amiconn | ...with resume on startup enabled |
| 01:12:37 | preglow | jhMikeS: totally sweet, this |
| 01:13:04 | amiconn | What annoys me most about the disk boot isn't the boot time itself (it's not _that_ long), but the fact that you can't pre-press buttons |
| 01:13:30 | jhMikeS | I'8s |
| 01:13:34 | amiconn | Usually I don't have resume on startup enabled because it might be that I have to switch settings before resuming |
| 01:13:38 | jhMikeS | 8s if not scanning disk |
| 01:13:45 | jhMikeS | prewglow: thanks |
| 01:14:09 | amiconn | But if I know that I want to resume I can tap On-On with rockbox in flash, and it will resume |
| 01:14:11 | preglow | anyway, isn't the wavpack average bitrate lower than 900k/s? |
| 01:14:14 | jhMikeS | amiconn: :D you need your music NOW I guess |
| 01:14:23 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Yes - it's a so-called "superfloppy" |
| 01:14:46 | amiconn | jhMikeS: No, but in car it's annoying to wait for the pathetic bootloader |
| 01:14:46 | jhMikeS | preglow: It's not quite accurate is it? |
| 01:15:24 | jhMikeS | amiconn needs his music NOW in the car NOW! :D |
| 01:15:33 | linuxstb | barrywardell: The GPIO dumps are interesting - seems the button driver will be straightforward... |
| 01:15:33 | amiconn | Either I have to wait explicitly, or doing other things in between (like starting the engine) I have to deal with the jukebox twice |
| 01:15:56 | jhMikeS | amiconn: You drive with headphones on? |
| 01:16:14 | amiconn | Nope, with the unit plugged to my car stereo's aux input |
| 01:16:41 | Sivart0 | this is starting to bug me >< |
| 01:16:41 | jhMikeS | amiconn: mine doesn't have one :( |
| 01:16:41 | barrywardell | linuxstb: luck you! |
| 01:16:51 | barrywardell | are all the buttons readable from GPIO? |
| 01:17:39 | jhMikeS | preglow: It wasn't my size guess for the WavPack...that's on the list of tweaks though. |
| 01:17:46 | amiconn | I chose my car stereo with aux in being a must-have |
| 01:18:05 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I don't know yet - the first two buttons I tried seem to be, 10 more to test. |
| 01:18:08 | preglow | jhMikeS: i think i'd drop the bitrate and just call it lossless, or something |
| 01:18:09 | jhMikeS | Mine's still stock Inifiniti from 1999 |
| 01:19:06 | jhMikeS | preglow: I think the expected bit rate range should be there maybe 10th - 90th percentile to give a clue? |
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| 01:19:24 | [PUUsH] | hi guys :> |
| 01:19:38 | [PUUsH] | i have a problem :/ |
| 01:19:48 | jhMikeS | preglow: At least it's working and not bombing out your player. What are you using? |
| 01:20:07 | [PUUsH] | are there any german or only english? :( |
| 01:20:24 | jhMikeS | Hay alemanes, si. |
| 01:20:41 | jhMikeS | :) |
| 01:20:42 | [PUUsH] | who can help me by updating my x5 |
| 01:21:08 | belze | i am german |
| 01:21:09 | belze | why? |
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| 01:21:16 | jhMikeS | [PUUsH]: Did you read the wiki yet? It should be explained there. |
| 01:21:45 | pixelma | Sivart0: maybe it's the same problem... http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5190.0 |
| 01:22:46 | [PUUsH] | download the bootloader x5_fw.bin and upload on the x5 in firmware |
| 01:23:14 | [PUUsH] | then i upload the unzipped files in root |
| 01:23:30 | Sivart0 | AHH! |
| 01:23:33 | Sivart0 | sysinfo >_> |
| 01:23:38 | Sivart0 | i bet |
| 01:23:43 | [PUUsH] | then i shut down |
| 01:24:30 | [PUUsH] | charging begins..i turn off the usb and x5 closed :( |
| 01:25:08 | [PUUsH] | what is wrong? |
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| 01:27:38 | Sivart0 | or was the sysinfo thing for ipod linux? <_< |
| 01:29:41 | preglow | jhMikeS: h120 |
| 01:29:42 | [PUUsH] | come on guys |
| 01:30:35 | preglow | tried mic and radio recording, mp3 and wv |
| 01:30:35 | preglow | works just dandy |
| 01:31:57 | preglow | hmm |
| 01:32:01 | preglow | why does the codec decide when to boost? |
| 01:32:07 | preglow | encoder codec, that is |
| 01:33:34 | barrywardell | if I have a C function that takes 4 arguments (int) and call it from asm, do r0-r4 get passed as the arguments? |
| 01:34:07 | barrywardell | i mean r0-r3 |
| 01:37:23 | Sivart0 | anyway, thanks alot :) |
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| 01:47:13 | preglow | barrywardell: yes |
| 01:47:36 | barrywardell | i thought so, thanks. |
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| 01:48:26 | preglow | the first four params work like that, the rest are stacked |
| 01:49:10 | barrywardell | i think i've found the four params used by the mi4 then |
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| 01:51:34 | webguest60 | vvvvvvvvv |
| 01:52:24 | barrywardell | setting them still doesn't let the OF start though. there must be more to it |
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| 02:07:40 | lostlogic | blargh, track skipping WPS display is broken again, I had it working fine and then people went and changed stuff. |
| 02:07:56 | lostlogic | I mean I'm sure he fixed the bug he was fixing, but he also made other things worse |
| 02:07:59 | lostlogic | regressions are bad |
| 02:08:19 | scorche | lostlogic: revived from the dead? |
| 02:08:26 | scorche | =) |
| 02:10:02 | lostlogic | never dead, just... well I discovered this amazing thing called "the outdoors" ;) |
| 02:10:34 | scorche | and how was this "outdoors" thing amazing? |
| 02:10:54 | lostlogic | it's pretty great −− otherwise how would it keep me from coding rockbox??? |
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| 02:23:07 | [HO]vo|t | does anyone else have a problem with Rockbox/iAudio x5 where sometimes on the wps a "joystick right" will bring you to the file browser? |
| 02:23:37 | * | amiconn also observed occasional button glitches on X5 |
| 02:23:49 | amiconn | Same thing as on H300, only less often |
| 02:24:03 | [HO]vo|t | it probably happens to me once every 10 or so song changes |
| 02:24:57 | amiconn | I observed it while zooming and panning around with mandelbrot. Occasionally it resets to default |
| 02:25:12 | [HO]vo|t | lostlogic: what problem is it that you fixed and got broken? |
| 02:25:58 | amiconn | H300 and X5 use the same hardware for buttonreading: the PCF50605 ADC |
| 02:26:23 | [HO]vo|t | oooh coincidence? i think not |
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| 02:35:47 | Sivart0 | hello people ^_^ |
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| 02:37:02 | Nico_P | has anyone had a look at FS #5856 — Demystify Color ? it's quite good... |
| 02:38:18 | [HO]vo|t | hmmm what is that |
| 02:39:27 | Nico_P | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5856 |
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| 02:41:55 | Sivart0 | hey, will rockboy ever be available on the ipod nano version? |
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| 02:48:02 | jhMikeS | I them too...try exiting FM Radio screen but leave the radio running...the next keypress will be eaten |
| 02:49:00 | [HO]vo|t | jhMikeS: when i exit FM Radio the radio plays until i pick a song in the File Browser |
| 02:49:56 | [HO]vo|t | i assume "will be eaten" = "does nothing" ? |
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| 02:59:48 | jhMikeS | HO]vo|lt: To shut the radio down you need a power key press (for x5). What's the general name for that one? |
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| 03:07:09 | [HO]vo|t | jhMikeS lets call it a power slide :) i did that, and i think it still played radio as i was browsing for a song to play |
| 03:08:18 | jhMikeS | Is this new behaviour? |
| 03:10:51 | jhMikeS | [HO]vo|t: Since the commit I mean...my x5 works correctly. |
| 03:11:20 | [HO]vo|t | well i have the CVS from yesterday |
| 03:11:32 | [HO]vo|t | thats about it, and i dont even think i can repeat the behavior |
| 03:12:13 | jhMikeS | hmmmm....try the latest |
| 03:12:19 | jhMikeS | What are you running? |
| 03:14:16 | [HO]vo|t | cvs-060827 (is that what you mean?) |
| 03:14:50 | jhMikeS | I just added my update today about a couple hours ago |
| 03:15:15 | jhMikeS | It's the 28th here btw |
| 03:15:52 | [HO]vo|t | i see, i'll get it |
| 03:16:01 | jhMikeS | ?? |
| 03:16:17 | [HO]vo|t | i'm confused, lol. nevermind :) |
| 03:16:30 | jhMikeS | latest one up ther |
| 03:16:43 | jhMikeS | I mean what device? |
| 03:16:56 | [HO]vo|t | iAudio x5 |
| 03:17:15 | jhMikeS | Then this should run well |
| 03:17:20 | jhMikeS | me too |
| 03:18:19 | [HO]vo|t | if you have it handy, run a playlist and press joystick right about 20 times to skip forward 20 or more songs and tell me if rockbox brings up the file browser |
| 03:18:26 | [HO]vo|t | this happens to me a lot |
| 03:18:52 | jhMikeS | I don't have one handle but I guess I'll make one real quick |
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| 03:19:24 | [HO]vo|t | well you could also play just about any song |
| 03:19:48 | [HO]vo|t | anything that would give away a "joystick right" being interpreted as a "joystick press" by rockbox and/or the hardware |
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| 03:24:07 | jhMikeS | It just saves playlist to the dang root...what's with that? |
| 03:25:27 | jhMikeS | It just happened to me. Went to file browser... |
| 03:26:09 | jhMikeS | Says (no file!) then goes to browse mode |
| 03:27:25 | jhMikeS | I've seen confusion when playing some of the plugin like bubbles. There's more strange mistaken keys elsewhere. |
| 03:29:11 | ShadowdogMU | Anyone got a good website idea? |
| 03:32:49 | [HO]vo|t | jhMikeS: What happened? |
| 03:33:00 | [HO]vo|t | jhMikeS: Coming out of radio? |
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| 03:37:26 | jhMikeS | [HO]vo|t: It exits the radio, that's all. Just like it should...I don't know what happened in your case but if you can't reproduce it at all I don't know other than to say it probably mistook the power switch for the rec button. |
| 03:39:14 | jhMikeS | That's never happened to me. |
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| 03:40:02 | jhMikeS | I got the midi player to work...sort of...by removing the IRAM buffer just like Doom was fixed. |
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| 04:32:40 | BigMac | anyone here know what i need in the wps code to add album art |
| 04:32:56 | BigMac | and im guessing xy coordinates |
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| 05:04:48 | [HO]vo|t | BigMac: _probably_ not possible if you're saying you want an album art to show up on your WPS, all WPS images should be preloaded and have to be in your wps/<wpsname> folder and you can have max 64 of them if i remember correctly |
| 05:12:57 | BigMac | hmm |
| 05:13:08 | BigMac | no |
| 05:13:15 | BigMac | the album art patch |
| 05:13:39 | BigMac | it checks the album for cover.bmp |
| 05:13:58 | BigMac | and if it is 100x100 and a bmp then it shows it |
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| 05:51:27 | BigMac | how do i apply a patch to the sim? |
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| 06:05:36 | rotator | BigMac: huh? patches are patches, apply them to the source then compile |
| 06:07:19 | BigMac | in the simulator? |
| 06:07:27 | BigMac | were is the source in the sim |
| 06:07:38 | rotator | no, you use the source to build the sim |
| 06:07:44 | BigMac | and were is everyone tonight btw |
| 06:07:55 | rotator | dunno *shrugs* |
| 06:08:39 | BigMac | sigh well if anyone finds out then tell me otherwise ill be working on the graphical aspect |
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| 06:35:03 | rotator | jhMikeS: new flac seeking patch, if you wouldn't mind testing again :) http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5892 |
| 06:35:53 | rotator | or anyone else is welcome to test, for that matter, the more the merrier |
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| 06:47:53 | BigMac | anyone here use the ipod sim? |
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| 06:57:52 | BigMac | i wish this wps would move along quicker |
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| 07:26:19 | EbErT | I tried uploading about 8 songs at once onto my ipod, then have them recognized by tagcache in rockbox |
| 07:27:04 | EbErT | i used "update", which instead of adding the songs, replaced everything that was on there with only those 8 |
| 07:27:33 | EbErT | is this feature still not working correctly? should i just initiate tagcache every time? |
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| 07:53:27 | EbErT | where do you put the fonts folder? under .rockbox correct? |
| 07:53:50 | Bagder | if you get the fonts zip, unzip it root as it already contains the folders |
| 07:54:00 | Bagder | unzip it _in_ root even |
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| 07:54:16 | EbErT | ok |
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| 07:54:40 | BigMac | badger got a sec? |
| 07:54:43 | EbErT | do you have an answer to this? |
| 07:54:57 | EbErT | I tried uploading about 8 songs at once onto my ipod, then have them recognized by tagcache in rockbox |
| 07:54:57 | EbErT | [01:27am] EbErT: i used "update", which instead of adding the songs, replaced everything that was on there with only those 8 |
| 07:54:57 | EbErT | [01:27am] EbErT: is this feature still not working correctly? should i just initiate tagcache every time? |
| 07:55:01 | Bagder | BigMac: perhaps, just ask |
| 07:55:48 | BigMac | ok first off in the ipod sim shouldn't 8 or the up arrow be menu? |
| 07:56:27 | EbErT | up is menu yes |
| 07:56:28 | BigMac | 2 how do i set a scroll margin |
| 07:56:36 | BigMac | not working that way |
| 07:57:23 | BigMac | and 3 is their anyway to move pbar up and down> I've tried all the coordinates and one of them changes the horizontal |
| 07:57:29 | BigMac | but nothing else changes |
| 07:58:15 | Bagder | 1) no idea 2) call the proper function I guess 3) it is line-based afair |
| 07:58:39 | Bagder | EbErT: afaik it works correctly and not you should not have to do it every time |
| 07:58:50 | Bagder | personally I've never even used tagcache though |
| 07:58:56 | EbErT | ok |
| 07:59:05 | EbErT | well, it wouldn't work for me for the longest time |
| 07:59:20 | EbErT | now it works almost correctly |
| 07:59:31 | EbErT | cheers for that miika guy, he looks like he's done a lot |
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| 08:00:03 | Bagder | he certainly has |
| 08:00:31 | BigMac | hmm |
| 08:00:41 | BigMac | ok so i can't use my sim anymore |
| 08:01:00 | BigMac | and i can't get my pbar to the right spot |
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| 08:03:38 | daurnimator | hi all |
| 08:03:56 | daurnimator | Bagder: did you read those things? |
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| 08:04:24 | Bagder | I've only had a very quick look |
| 08:04:47 | Bagder | thanks a lot for them btw |
| 08:04:52 | daurnimator | np |
| 08:05:13 | daurnimator | i just want to see projects such as rockbox go as far as possible |
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| 08:11:04 | daurnimator | make sure that people that can be aided by it get it |
| 08:11:14 | Bagder | I certainly will |
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| 08:15:41 | BigMac | ok anyone here that has expierience with wps |
| 08:15:46 | BigMac | making |
| 08:15:58 | BigMac | im gettin really perturbed |
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| 08:27:33 | EbErT | what bit size do the backdrop bmp's have to be? |
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| 08:30:20 | BigMac | 24 |
| 08:30:47 | BigMac | well i'm going to post on the forum then off to bed |
| 08:31:05 | EbErT | sorry you're having trouble with wps's |
| 08:31:18 | EbErT | keep at it tho, we need more clean ones |
| 08:31:25 | BigMac | yah its alright |
| 08:31:52 | EbErT | you making them for ipodvideo? |
| 08:32:13 | BigMac | well the odds are far against me since this is my first wps and i have 3 days left to finish it and from what it seems nobody has ever encountered my problems before yes |
| 08:32:25 | BigMac | before. yes |
| 08:32:46 | EbErT | 3 days to finish eh |
| 08:33:26 | BigMac | yup |
| 08:33:36 | BigMac | then back to the whole school jive |
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| 08:49:13 | Davide-NYC | Does anyone know what this is all about? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6152.0 |
| 08:49:35 | Davide-NYC | Is it true? Do we have real-time encoding? |
| 08:49:44 | Bagder | yes |
| 08:49:52 | Davide-NYC | I'm going to faint |
| 08:50:40 | Bagder | Mike's worked hard on getting Toni's patch in and adjusted |
| 08:51:16 | Davide-NYC | If this commit passes muster I will *never* have to boot into iriver firmware ever again. |
| 08:51:24 | Davide-NYC | halleluyah (or whatever) |
| 08:51:27 | LinusN | mike is now officially the Rockbox employee of the week |
| 08:51:33 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 08:51:45 | Bagder | hehe |
| 08:51:48 | daurnimator | mike? |
| 08:52:11 | LinusN | his picture hangs here in the entrance hall of the main office |
| 08:52:21 | Davide-NYC | employee? |
| 08:52:25 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 08:52:30 | daurnimator | LinusN: your hallway? |
| 08:52:31 | daurnimator | :P |
| 08:52:50 | LinusN | :-) |
| 08:53:28 | Bagder | The hallway of Rockbox Inc, the multi-million-dollar company secretly running all this |
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| 09:11:25 | Davide-NYC | I saw a mention of a Bootloader v7 on the forums. Does this have anything to do with the iriver H1xx? |
| 09:12:40 | LinusN | i have no idea what bootloader v7 is |
| 09:13:39 | LinusN | i release the iriver bootloaders, and i'm only at 6 |
| 09:14:15 | Davide-NYC | that is what I thought, thank you. FYI here is the mysterious post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6164.0 |
| 09:14:27 | Davide-NYC | No idea what they're talking about |
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| 09:17:16 | LinusN | i saw that one too |
| 09:17:25 | LinusN | and i ignored it silently |
| 09:17:29 | Davide-NYC | hehe |
| 09:18:20 | Davide-NYC | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6164.0 |
| 09:18:26 | Davide-NYC | I replied. |
| 09:18:50 | * | Davide-NYC I'm ridiculously happy about real-time encoding |
| 09:18:58 | Davide-NYC | good night |
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| 09:21:40 | crwl | real-time what, ooh |
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| 09:53:27 | daurnimator | when will zagor be about? |
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| 09:58:32 | preglow | why's the fm build still broken? |
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| 10:05:12 | preglow | safetydan: hi |
| 10:05:35 | preglow | done any more fiddling around with eq plotting? :) |
| 10:06:16 | safetydan | preglow, yo, and no not yet |
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| 10:07:34 | preglow | i did a bit more fiddling around with it |
| 10:07:39 | preglow | but the lower eq band will cause us troubles |
| 10:07:55 | preglow | we don't have enough precision to calculate the graph by far |
| 10:07:59 | preglow | that's why it looks so weird |
| 10:08:02 | safetydan | I did read that in the logs |
| 10:08:27 | preglow | the division is more or less x/x |
| 10:08:37 | preglow | but thanks to roundoff, one of the numbers will be a few bits off |
| 10:08:52 | safetydan | ah... kind of hard to get that right |
| 10:09:11 | preglow | i think the solution is for me to just calculate the graphing functions for the eq filters specifically |
| 10:09:59 | preglow | _might_ even end up a bit faster |
| 10:10:43 | safetydan | Which basically sounds like something that's out of my area of expertise :) |
| 10:11:23 | preglow | a pity, the general plotter would work for almost all filters |
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| 10:13:43 | preglow | the functions will probably depend on lots of nasty trig functions |
| 10:13:45 | preglow | feh |
| 10:14:48 | preglow | OR we could use floating point :-)))))))) |
| 10:16:12 | safetydan | floating point... the solution to, and cause of, all lifes problems |
| 10:17:12 | markun_ | preglow: Tremor emulates floating point |
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| 10:21:10 | markun | preglow: in sharebook.c |
| 10:21:28 | markun | Is there a forum admin around? |
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| 10:29:57 | preglow | markun: gcc can do that for me |
| 10:31:04 | markun | that's true |
| 10:34:51 | preglow | but no, there's probably a better way |
| 10:34:57 | preglow | i'm just not used enough to fixed poitn |
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| 11:15:25 | webguest91 | Hi. There's a Wiki page 'IriverFlashing' which says that the original firmware can be overwritten by RB (not officially released though). But then I lose the OF forever. |
| 11:15:53 | webguest91 | What do you think about just swapping the OF and RB? I.e. RB is loaded from flash and OF from disk? |
| 11:17:06 | webguest91 | Since I use RB all the time this would reduce startup time. But from time to time I still use the OF (WMA playback) so it would be nice if it would be retained. |
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| 11:19:18 | markun | webguest91: Slasheri tried it but didn't get it to work so far |
| 11:21:05 | webguest91 | markun: Ah, Ok. I suspected I wouldn't be the first to come up with the idea :-) But nice it would be! |
| 11:22:52 | LinusN | the OF is not designed to be run from disk |
| 11:23:26 | LinusN | so it requires a lot of tricks and patching to make it so |
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| 11:24:05 | webguest91 | LinusN: is it designed to run from RAM? The bootloader could load it to RAM then and execute from there. |
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| 11:25:13 | LinusN | it's designed to boot from flash |
| 11:25:13 | amiconn | preglow: The fmrecorder build isn't completely broken, but rockbox grew too large (despite my rambling about the necessity to code efficiently) for rombox being possible on fm and v2. Now the linker complains |
| 11:25:25 | LinusN | webguest91: it then copies itself from flash to ram |
| 11:25:52 | amiconn | The fix would be to cut down code size (more efficient coding, cutting out dead code introduced by acions etc) |
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| 11:29:42 | webguest91 | LinusN: mmm... So we have to come up with a trick to outrule that. But during loading, the OF surely checks some control sums etc. So no chance? |
| 11:30:56 | webguest91 | LinusN: if the bootloader would recreate exactly the same situation (=state) that exists after the OF has copied itself to RAM... |
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| 11:31:03 | preglow | the solution would be a separate archos fork! :V |
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| 11:32:14 | webguest91 | LinusN: ...or does the OF check the flash contents after it's loaded into RAM? Then chances are bad. |
| 11:33:13 | Slasheri | webguest91: the problem is that we don't know how to load it to ram and how the hardware must be initialized |
| 11:33:17 | Slasheri | that is not a simple thing to do |
| 11:34:03 | amiconn | preglow: That wouldn't be a solution, but a bad workaround |
| 11:34:07 | Slasheri | i have tried to read the disassembled OF boot section but that doesn't look very good |
| 11:34:33 | preglow | amiconn: i wasn't exactly serious |
| 11:35:27 | webguest91 | Slasheri: couldn't a memory/CPU snap shot be made? Just after the OF booted? |
| 11:36:30 | webguest91 | Slasheri: that way you'll know what it should be (and only that matters) and not how it's reached. |
| 11:38:33 | Slasheri | webguest91: hmm, in theory yes. but still that doesn't tell everything, for example how the periprehal hardware should be initialized |
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| 11:39:19 | preglow | amiconn: so there's redundant code around since introducing actions? |
| 11:39:20 | Slasheri | and i don't have the bdm interface to do that |
| 11:40:18 | webguest91 | Slasheri: yes, a full snapshot should be made, including all the peripheral HW. But in theory, a state of a computer system is completely defined by its memory state (including CPU registers etc). |
| 11:40:23 | amiconn | preglow: The way actions are implemented now, there are case ACTION_xxx: code paths with can't be triggered on some targets |
| 11:40:36 | amiconn | ...because of lack of buttons or other reasons |
| 11:40:42 | amiconn | This is dead code... |
| 11:40:48 | webguest91 | Slasheri: but if it's too hard/expensive, I'm fine with the current situation. |
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| 11:41:29 | preglow | amiconn: how can that be solved? |
| 11:41:32 | preglow | more ifdef hell? |
| 11:42:50 | amiconn | I think that actions can be made conditional. Some ifdefs are needed for that, I wouldn't call it hell. |
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| 11:43:01 | amiconn | Just #ifdef ACTION_xx |
| 11:43:07 | amiconn | case ACTION_xx: |
| 11:43:11 | amiconn | ... |
| 11:43:15 | amiconn | break; |
| 11:43:17 | amiconn | #endif |
| 11:43:38 | JdGordon | noo... its nicer if its linked to a HAVE_BLAA instead of the action code.. |
| 11:43:41 | preglow | all ifdefs are hell, heh |
| 11:43:50 | * | amiconn disagrees |
| 11:43:54 | JdGordon | that way it can be ifdefed out more easily throughout the code |
| 11:44:02 | amiconn | This only applies to very few actions |
| 11:44:30 | JdGordon | did the actions put alot of unnecacey code into archos? |
| 11:44:43 | tucoz | Just read that linuxstb made some progress on the elio. looks like the tatung elio is exactly the same thing as the asono elio. |
| 11:44:50 | jhMikeS | preglow: any good resources you know of on a digital brick wall filter? |
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| 11:44:59 | amiconn | The action stuff increased code size on archos by several KB |
| 11:45:32 | amiconn | I would have expected a shrink, because all the distributed button loop code is not simplified... |
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| 11:45:55 | jhMikeS | amiconn: how is it possible to get 11025Hz from the tlv320? I don't see it...you can divide the clock by 2 for 22050 and that's it. |
| 11:46:06 | amiconn | So the only explanation I can think of is dead code |
| 11:46:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I don't know... didn't look at the tlv320 datasheet closely yet |
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| 11:46:52 | amiconn | Iirc the only option for uda1380 is 44.1kHz |
| 11:48:07 | jhMikeS | With a 11.2896 MHz clock you can choose 8.021,44.1,8.021,44.1,88.2 with CLKIN 0 or /2 with CLKIN 1 |
| 11:48:47 | preglow | amiconn: then why didn't it shrink? |
| 11:48:54 | preglow | jhMikeS: depends how design you want to use |
| 11:48:57 | preglow | jhMikeS: iir? fir? fft? |
| 11:49:35 | JdGordon | amiconn: i tihnk its the actual keymap lists which killed the bin size |
| 11:49:43 | preglow | jhMikeS: only way to easily make a "brick wall" filter is by doing fft filtering or windowed sinc fir filter design |
| 11:49:47 | jhMikeS | If I want 11025 I have to use something to remove all f above 5512.5 |
| 11:49:50 | amiconn | I doubt it.... the keymaps are 12 bytes per entry |
| 11:50:08 | amiconn | Even 100 different actions would mean 1200byte |
| 11:50:11 | jhMikeS | Before downsample from 22050 |
| 11:50:20 | amiconn | The increase is significantly more than that |
| 11:50:50 | jhMikeS | preglow: I don't know what type...fast is good though...been looking around but with the simple /2 something should be easier |
| 11:51:25 | preglow | jhMikeS: you should look for halfband filters |
| 11:52:01 | jhMikeS | and then what? throw out every other sample or average them? |
| 11:52:44 | preglow | once you have removed all high frequency content, you just decimate |
| 11:52:49 | preglow | that is, throw away samples |
| 11:53:06 | preglow | averaging is also a type of filter |
| 11:53:21 | preglow | a very poor one, which will destroy the nice frequency response you've made with a brickwall filter, heh |
| 11:53:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: by how much are we over? |
| 11:53:57 | preglow | jhMikeS: anyway, a brickwall filter isn't possible. what you need to do is sacrifice a couple of hundred hz around the new nyquist frequency so you can use a more realistic filter |
| 11:54:16 | jhMikeS | Could achieve other rated < 44.1 with decimation |
| 11:54:59 | jhMikeS | preglow: I fairly understand it's an ideal...but the idea is sharp cutoff and not many samples needed to do it hopefully. |
| 11:55:17 | preglow | jhMikeS: for sharp cutoff, we've talking a several hundred samples long filter |
| 11:55:26 | preglow | by "brickwall" |
| 11:55:42 | jhMikeS | That's not too bad really. |
| 11:56:03 | jhMikeS | Too much to put right in DMA1 I think |
| 11:56:20 | preglow | what's this for anyway? |
| 11:56:42 | linuxstb_ | jhMikeS: The UDA1380 driver seems to support 11.025KHz - see pcm_set_frequency() in firmware/pcm_playback.c. It's used by both Doom and Rockboy. |
| 11:57:24 | jhMikeS | Well that's the UDA1380 but the TLV320 I don't think so |
| 11:57:38 | preglow | uda1380 almost certainly supports 11025 |
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| 11:58:13 | jhMikeS | For the UDA 1380 there's nothing to do then except set 'n' go |
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| 11:58:59 | preglow | jhMikeS: so you're talking realtime on target here |
| 11:58:59 | preglow | ? |
| 11:59:03 | jhMikeS | But it's different for slave/master mode |
| 11:59:06 | jhMikeS | preglow: yes |
| 11:59:08 | preglow | then i'd say forget brickwall, no way in hell you can do that |
| 11:59:18 | jhMikeS | preglow: recommendation? |
| 11:59:27 | preglow | a several hundred samples long fir filter is _very_ long in this context |
| 11:59:40 | preglow | jhMikeS: iir filters or high order interpolators |
| 11:59:46 | jhMikeS | For recording |
| 11:59:57 | preglow | couldn't you use the ordinary rockbox resampler for this? |
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| 12:00:29 | preglow | it's very crappy now, of course, but it being used for recording as well should definitely spur some efforts to improve it, heh |
| 12:00:33 | jhMikeS | maybe |
| 12:00:59 | jhMikeS | Could be able to synthesize a whole host of rates then no? |
| 12:01:05 | preglow | sure |
| 12:01:28 | preglow | it has to solve the very same problems you're facing now anyway |
| 12:02:05 | jhMikeS | In master mode, the TLV is the clock source so I think you're stuck |
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| 12:02:48 | fah | anyone else have a problem with dual-booting rockbox/appleOS and songs not showing up in appleOS anymore? |
| 12:03:11 | linuxstb_ | fah: Do you have a Nano? |
| 12:03:49 | jhMikeS | I'll check out pcm_set_frequency and see if I get any "aha"s. ;) |
| 12:04:11 | fah | linuxstb; yes |
| 12:04:27 | fah | is there an issue with the nano? |
| 12:04:43 | linuxstb_ | fah: Then yes - it's a known problem with the latest Apple firmware. I don't think anyone knows of a solution apart from to downgrade to an older version of the firmware. |
| 12:04:55 | linuxstb_ | ^older version of the Apple firmware |
| 12:05:13 | fah | ahh.. right on. thank you very much linuxstb. you saved me much work. ;) |
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| 12:14:43 | tucoz | preglow, do you know how to set the A and B marks on the nano? |
| 12:15:02 | preglow | nope |
| 12:15:04 | preglow | never done it on any platform |
| 12:15:05 | tucoz | :) |
| 12:15:39 | jhMikeS | I think you can use slave mode to record...that would make 11025 possible w/o processing. Could be wrong. :\ |
| 12:16:05 | tucoz | hmm. a guy yesterday tried all sorts of combinations to do this. And also tried with the context menu. wonder if it is possible at all. |
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| 12:23:30 | LinusN | jhMikeS: does the tlv320 have an internal oscillator? |
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| 12:27:11 | jhMikeS | LinusN: No...it uses that crystal |
| 12:27:32 | jhMikeS | doesn't it? |
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| 12:29:07 | jhMikeS | no it's got XTI/MCLK, XTO, CLKOUT |
| 12:29:48 | jhMikeS | you can divide it by 2 and that's all |
| 12:30:03 | jhMikeS | 22050 is simple for master mode |
| 12:30:09 | LinusN | yup |
| 12:30:38 | jhMikeS | If I can record in slave mode, I'll use the coldfire's audio clock |
| 12:30:47 | jhMikeS | or a combination |
| 12:31:20 | jhMikeS | What's the clock frequency (/1) for the CF audio clock? |
| 12:32:25 | LinusN | 44100Hz I believe |
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| 12:33:21 | jhMikeS | Oh wait it says Audio Clk is normally 16.93 Mhz... |
| 12:33:30 | LinusN | lemme check |
| 12:34:00 | jhMikeS | CAn use divided SYSCLOCK for SCLK output and LRCK output |
| 12:35:37 | LinusN | MCLK is either 11.2896MHz or 11.2896/2 |
| 12:38:14 | jhMikeS | The CPU uses that crystal? |
| 12:39:54 | LinusN | the cpu uses the 11.2896MHz oscillator, yes |
| 12:41:27 | jhMikeS | On the CPU I have more divide settings |
| 12:44:57 | LinusN | you should be able to set 11025 using the IIS clock dividers |
| 12:45:35 | jhMikeS | That's where my head is going...but you need slave mode for recording then |
| 12:45:54 | LinusN | you need slave mode for both playback and recording |
| 12:46:03 | jhMikeS | They use master mode right now |
| 12:46:15 | LinusN | really? |
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| 12:46:20 | jhMikeS | See tlv320.c if you don't believe |
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| 12:46:43 | jhMikeS | That limits sample rates to 44.1 or 22.05 of course |
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| 12:51:09 | LinusN | jhMikeS: hmmm |
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| 12:52:38 | jhMikeS | I think something will get worked out here...maybe use the resampler for other rates. |
| 12:53:21 | LinusN | guess so |
| 12:54:28 | fah | copying a backup of .rockbox over one on the ipod sure takes a long time |
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| 13:01:13 | preglow | if you do, just be aware it's horrible quality |
| 13:01:26 | preglow | someone should fix it |
| 13:01:38 | preglow | i don't feel very inclined towards the task right now |
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| 13:04:10 | jhMikeS | preglow: as long as I can get the basic rates done I'll be happy to have it working for now and it won't be needed. |
| 13:04:32 | jhMikeS | preglow: what is the quality problem btw? |
| 13:05:41 | preglow | jhMikeS: the fact that i use plain linear interpolation for resampling |
| 13:06:07 | jhMikeS | oy... |
| 13:06:43 | jhMikeS | no polyphase? |
| 13:07:04 | preglow | no, just linear interpolation |
| 13:07:12 | preglow | i just tossed it together to get resampling working at all |
| 13:07:50 | preglow | i don't really care about resampling myself, most my stuff is either 44.1 or 48khz |
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| 15:08:04 | lorijho | Hi |
| 15:08:45 | lorijho | which players support alarm as in apps/alarm_menu.c ? |
| 15:11:30 | lorijho | what purpose have the alarms that can be set in apps/alarm_menu.c Wake from RTC? or Play Sound on alarm ? |
| 15:11:53 | JdGordon | i tinhk only the archos recorder can do alaram |
| 15:11:57 | JdGordon | and i think its for wake up |
| 15:12:11 | JdGordon | i could be very wrong tho |
| 15:12:41 | lorijho | JdGordon: Hi |
| 15:12:58 | linuxstb_ | lorijho: I think it's the Recorder v2 and FM Recorder. It's not been ported to the newer players yet. The H300 and Ipods (at least) should be capable of it. |
| 15:13:03 | linuxstb_ | (probably the X5 as well) |
| 15:13:09 | lorijho | linuxstb_: Ok I see |
| 15:13:28 | lorijho | linuxstb_: I am working on RTC of H10 and has alarm registers aswell |
| 15:13:32 | linuxstb_ | And yes, it's for wakeup from RTC. |
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| 15:13:47 | linuxstb_ | Does that have a pcf50...something? |
| 15:14:00 | lorijho | linuxstb_: nope an epson rtc |
| 15:14:39 | lorijho | linuxstb_: the H10 firmware doesn't support wake from rtc alarm, but it could probably be done |
| 15:14:47 | linuxstb_ | I've no idea about that... I just know the pcf chips can do it. |
| 15:15:12 | lorijho | linuxstb_: oh yeah right the pcf deal with power aswell |
| 15:15:26 | lorijho | the epson RTC_E8564 doesn't |
| 15:18:40 | lorijho | so is also no code in rockbox for RTC alarm controlled fm recording or similar, as seen e.g. in the H10 firmware |
| 15:21:57 | lorijho | for now reading and setting RTC date and time works for H10. I will send a patch to barrywardell so he can commit that to cvs |
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| 15:27:41 | lorijho | I having trouble with make. If I don't include i2c-pp5020.h in rtc.c gcc says "warning: implicit declaration of function ..." for the functions from i2c-pp5020.h called from rtc.c |
| 15:28:17 | lorijho | when I include i2c-pp5020.h make says that there are no rules to make ic2-pp5020.h |
| 15:28:48 | Bagder | "ic2-pp5020.h" ? |
| 15:28:58 | Bagder | or "i2c-pp5020.h" |
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| 15:29:56 | lorijho | Bagder: ah thx you pointed me to the typo. It now works as expected :) |
| 15:30:01 | Bagder | :-) |
| 15:32:13 | daurnimator | lol |
| 15:32:25 | daurnimator | typos are the devils handmaidens |
| 15:32:51 | lorijho | another question, regarding that I never saw rockbox running on anything else than H10_5GB. When the statusbar is enabled the first line of every menu or file tree is hidden behind the statusbar |
| 15:33:10 | lorijho | normal behaviour or a possible h10 lcd code problem ? |
| 15:33:21 | Bagder | sounds like a code problem |
| 15:33:42 | lorijho | Bagder: I'll mention it to barrywardell then |
| 15:33:45 | lorijho | thx |
| 15:38:00 | amiconn | lorijho: The alarm is for archos recorder fm and v2, and also for the recorder v1 with a hardware mod. It's only for wake-up (use in conjunction with resume on startup) |
| 15:38:21 | daurnimator | does anyone here know of any cool upcoming mp3 players |
| 15:38:34 | daurnimator | that have a high possibility of being rockbox'd |
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| 15:39:38 | Bagder | no particular upcoming models have higher possibilities than others afaics |
| 15:39:55 | linuxstb_ | New models with documented CPUs seem rare though... |
| 15:40:41 | tucoz | linuxstb_, as you might know. the context menu didn't contain a set A,B item (on the ipods) |
| 15:40:51 | daurnimator | well... any cool players, that it isn't IMPOSSIBLE to get rockbox on |
| 15:40:51 | daurnimator | ;) |
| 15:41:20 | Bagder | basically none are impossible |
| 15:41:37 | daurnimator | s/IMPOSSIBLE/hard |
| 15:41:40 | Bagder | haha |
| 15:41:45 | Bagder | all targets are hard |
| 15:41:52 | tucoz | but a gcc cross compiler is probably something that is necessary? |
| 15:41:56 | daurnimator | s/hard/extremly hard |
| 15:42:07 | Bagder | non-gcc targets are hardest, yes |
| 15:42:11 | tucoz | hehe |
| 15:42:13 | Bagder | but they're very rare these days |
| 15:42:21 | Bagder | and I don't see any upcoming ones like that |
| 15:42:43 | Bagder | I see ARM dominate |
| 15:43:02 | tucoz | what was the issue with the gmini? was that compiled with arm? |
| 15:43:17 | Bagder | the early gminis are calmrisc based |
| 15:43:32 | Bagder | which is a 16bit cpu-core that isn't supported by gcc |
| 15:43:40 | Bagder | at least not without jyp's hard work |
| 15:44:03 | tucoz | aha. i thought i remembered that i had read something about that |
| 15:44:25 | daurnimator | jyp worked hard to make it non gcc? |
| 15:44:27 | daurnimator | ;) |
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| 15:45:09 | tucoz | btw, i got an answer from gcc.org yesterday (regarding the manuals licence) |
| 15:45:25 | Bagder | you mean gnu.org? |
| 15:45:34 | tucoz | ah, hehe. yes |
| 15:46:01 | tucoz | quote "At the very least, the LaTeX, along with any and all documents generated from it, should be licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License." |
| 15:46:25 | tucoz | "The screenshots that accompany it should ideally be licensed under the GNU FDL as well, to make your licensing simple." |
| 15:46:49 | tucoz | does this mean we have to mention somewhere that the source itself is also GFDL? |
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| 15:47:09 | tucoz | like in the rockbox source code. |
| 15:47:24 | daurnimator | FDL? |
| 15:47:46 | tucoz | yes. |
| 15:48:08 | tucoz | I meant the source to the manual |
| 15:48:19 | lorijho | amiconn: yup got it |
| 15:48:48 | tucoz | as far as i see it, the screenshots are gpl as they are made with rockbox. |
| 15:48:56 | daurnimator | g'night all |
| 15:49:10 | tucoz | good night |
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| 15:53:54 | Hansmaulwurf | btw |
| 15:54:04 | Hansmaulwurf | heute the wire season3 bekommen :) |
| 15:54:14 | Hansmaulwurf | wopps |
| 15:54:17 | Hansmaulwurf | wrong channel |
| 15:57:58 | preglow | word |
| 15:58:19 | Bagder | that to me? |
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| 16:03:27 | linuxstb_ | tucoz: I thought there were reasons we didn't want the GFDL? |
| 16:04:54 | tucoz | yes, i know. but as it is gfdl, i wanted to know _what_ this covered |
| 16:06:11 | tucoz | as i feel the source is in a gray area atm |
| 16:07:25 | amiconn | The screenshots are not necessarily gpl. They are made with rockbox, but they aren't code |
| 16:08:19 | tucoz | this has to be mentioned somewhere, right? |
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| 16:18:07 | tucoz | amiconn, ah. misunderstood you. |
| 16:18:43 | tucoz | so the screenshots could be GFDL as well |
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| 16:25:34 | maddog011 | lol that script has too many dots :) |
| 16:26:08 | maddog011 | oh nice |
| 16:26:12 | maddog011 | im the only one from serbia :D |
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| 17:24:57 | BigMac | you guys see julius' new wps? |
| 17:27:40 | crashd | url? |
| 17:27:53 | BigMac | http://pijulius.blogspot.com/2006/08/jclix-rockbox-themes-ipod-video.html |
| 17:28:42 | crashd | does look pretty sweet eh |
| 17:29:06 | BigMac | that it does |
| 17:29:25 | BigMac | its amazing how he completly made every pixel to look like the iclix |
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| 17:46:16 | Coldtoast | hi all. is the battery on the ipod nano really 1300mAh? |
| 17:46:50 | Coldtoast | I have it set to the lowest capacity but I never get a full batt indicator on the wps |
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| 17:47:19 | Coldtoast | assuming the nano is lower than 1300 so the batt display is never goign to show full. would that be right? |
| 17:48:50 | Lear | No, capacity is for run-time estimation. Battery level is taked from voltage. |
| 17:49:58 | Coldtoast | hmmm. ok |
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| 17:50:19 | Coldtoast | must be something a bit wrong with this WPS I'm using then I'd say |
| 17:50:55 | Lear | Could be... |
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| 18:18:03 | BigMac | can you make the battery icon transparent? |
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| 18:51:42 | BigMac | anyone here |
| 18:51:43 | mirak | ola |
| 18:51:48 | BigMac | hi |
| 18:52:06 | BigMac | mirak you have any experience with wps making |
| 18:52:27 | mirak | none |
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| 19:05:28 | BigMac | my m2v keep saying buffering and staying there |
| 19:05:39 | BigMac | no way to exit out accept a hard restart |
| 19:06:16 | linuxstb_ | How did you create it? What size is it? |
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| 19:08:08 | mirak | as the forum been lost or something one day ? |
| 19:08:09 | linuxstb_ | mirak: No, but not all the old posts have been moved into the new forums. |
| 19:08:32 | BigMac | vlc |
| 19:08:37 | BigMac | and not sure |
| 19:08:40 | mirak | ah ok, I was looking for a post about profiling |
| 19:08:46 | BigMac | its like a 20 second vid |
| 19:09:07 | linuxstb_ | I'll have a look for it... |
| 19:11:01 | BigMac | so any ideas what is wrong linuxstb_ |
| 19:11:48 | mirak | linuxstb_: the old one is accessible ? |
| 19:11:48 | linuxstb_ | mirak: Is this the post? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2039.0 |
| 19:11:48 | linuxstb_ | mirak: Only to forum moderators... |
| 19:11:49 | mirak | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=2052.0 it was that one |
| 19:11:49 | linuxstb_ | mirak: I've just moved it. |
| 19:11:49 | mirak | thanks |
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| 19:12:07 | DanManners | Anyone online? |
| 19:12:40 | BigMac | I am |
| 19:13:33 | BigMac | anyone here using jclix yet? |
| 19:14:06 | linuxstb_ | BigMac: The only time I've had mpegplayer crash on me is when I've tried to play a large (e.g. 640x480) video |
| 19:14:06 | mirak | what was the fps ? |
| 19:14:07 | linuxstb_ | None - it refused to play... |
| 19:14:07 | linuxstb_ | It's probably just not correctly checking for when malloc fails. |
| 19:14:07 | mirak | mmm |
| 19:14:07 | DanManners | Can I inturrupt quickly for a moment? |
| 19:14:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK linuxstb_ |
| 19:14:07 | linuxstb_ | You just have :) |
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| 19:14:07 | linuxstb_ | What's the problem? |
| 19:14:11 | DanManners | Umm, I can't seem to figure out how the new iPod 5G theme works |
| 19:14:13 | DanManners | with the patches and such |
| 19:14:21 | DanManners | tha'ts what I"m asking about lol, jclix |
| 19:14:29 | | Part Coldtoast |
| 19:14:37 | DanManners | Do you have to patch that yourself? or do you just download it |
| 19:14:52 | DanManners | Because my patcher is all wonky |
| 19:15:08 | DanManners | *cygwin |
| 19:15:10 | DanManners | is wacky |
| 19:15:11 | DanManners | i mean |
| 19:15:24 | mirak | linuxstb_: in slice.c try this, define static int16_t DCTblock[64] IDATA_ATTR; then replace all decoder->DCTblock by just DCTblock |
| 19:15:33 | BigMac | DanManners he has a build out |
| 19:15:42 | DanManners | Alright, do you know where? |
| 19:15:43 | BigMac | you have a 60 gb or a 30 |
| 19:15:47 | DanManners | 30 |
| 19:15:57 | mirak | linuxstb_: I got 3-5 fps in plus on the H300 |
| 19:16:00 | BigMac | http://pijulius.com/julius/rockbox/rockbox-jbuild-20060829-ipodvideo.zip |
| 19:16:12 | DanManners | every time I install it |
| 19:16:20 | BigMac | linuxstb_: how long does it usually take to buffer |
| 19:16:25 | DanManners | I have to reinstall Rockbox |
| 19:16:27 | mirak | linuxstb_: don't know if the ipod can benefit from this |
| 19:16:30 | DanManners | so I don't know if that's just me |
| 19:16:31 | DanManners | or not |
| 19:16:32 | DanManners | I dunno |
| 19:16:57 | DanManners | it doesn't work with the sim either |
| 19:16:58 | DanManners | that I have |
| 19:17:06 | BigMac | i have never had that problem |
| 19:17:29 | DanManners | It just gives me this error: |
| 19:18:27 | DanManners | Rockboxui.exe - Bad Image |
| 19:18:27 | DanManners | The application or DLL D:\Documents and Settings\Dan\Desktop\ipod-video-sim-w32\archos\_temp_codec1.dll is not a valid Windows image. Please check this against your installation diskette. |
| 19:18:40 | DanManners | About 30 times |
| 19:18:55 | DanManners | In other words, the sim recognizes it as a Codec Failture |
| 19:19:01 | DanManners | and then closes after 30 or so times |
| 19:19:12 | BigMac | ive only used the sim for wps making |
| 19:19:24 | DanManners | well, this would count as a wps test |
| 19:19:32 | DanManners | In a sense |
| 19:19:41 | DanManners | but like |
| 19:19:54 | DanManners | I overwrite everything |
| 19:20:00 | DanManners | is that what I'm supposed to do? |
| 19:20:09 | DanManners | or just drag the rockbox.ipod onto the Hard drive |
| 19:20:25 | mirak | linuxstb_: is there a way to have a fps average at the end of playtime ? |
| 19:22:32 | DanManners | ya, now the sim just plain isn't working |
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| 19:28:52 | DanManners | Hello? |
| 19:28:56 | fatherfork | hello |
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| 19:29:13 | DanManners | i guess I just lagged |
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| 19:32:10 | bluebrother | Slasheri, you're in? |
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| 19:36:56 | linuxstb_ | mirak: I'll try it on the ipod, but I'm not sure if it will help much. If you want to display the FPS at the end, it should be straightforward to add it. |
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| 19:37:43 | mirak | at the end or a per minute fps to have something more stable to benchmark |
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| 19:44:59 | mirak | linuxstb_: the main loop is es_loop ? |
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| 20:03:27 | amiconn | linuxstb_, mirak: Iirc the fps display is the average across all frames played so far - so it gets more precise with playback time |
| 20:04:56 | BigMac | - |
| 20:04:59 | BigMac | .−−−−−−−−−−−− |
| 20:05:58 | lowlight | In lieu of viewports, I've made patch that allows you to scroll only portion of a WPS line based on where you put the %s. |
| 20:06:08 | lowlight | If anyone want's to test: http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/ |
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| 20:10:51 | BigMac | wwjpd? |
| 20:11:32 | BigMac | so anyone besides me have jclix running on their ipod? |
| 20:12:19 | mirak | hum I am trying to use profiling ... |
| 20:15:28 | mirak | I put the main entry point ( es_loop )in between rb->profile_thread(); and rb->profstop(); |
| 20:15:53 | markun | BigMac: probably not |
| 20:16:10 | mirak | but it stalls when running a video |
| 20:16:44 | mirak | I have read the TECH doc |
| 20:18:35 | mirak | if I remove them it still doesn't work |
| 20:19:41 | mirak | linuxstb_: you tried a profile build for mpegplayer ? |
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| 20:21:15 | BigMac | markun:why? |
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| 20:21:57 | BigMac | hey while a good amount of people are here? how can i make some parts of the wps tranparent? |
| 20:24:31 | markun | BigMac: it just seams eye candy is not a very high priority for most devs |
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| 20:25:31 | BigMac | markun:its not i eyer candy its j candy :-) |
| 20:26:46 | mirak | markun: you know profiling ? |
| 20:27:16 | BigMac | well its lunch time |
| 20:27:27 | Slasheri | bluebrother: hi, now i am :) |
| 20:28:50 | lowlight | BigMac: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS and search for "transparent" |
| 20:31:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 20:31:01 | * | Paul_The_Nerd wonders why Julius spends all his time working on things that are only applicable to his themes, instead of trying to push in a direction toward more universal solutions. |
| 20:33:04 | BigMac | monopoly |
| 20:33:15 | BigMac | he wants everyone to have to use his themes |
| 20:33:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I personally think they're silly.\ |
| 20:34:08 | Paul_The_Nerd | But then I'm not a fan of trying to make my player look like another sort of player. |
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| 20:35:49 | amiconn | mirak: I've just committed a fix for profiling which affected both coldfire and pp |
| 20:35:57 | BigMac | i like it |
| 20:36:03 | BigMac | but that is your opinion |
| 20:36:07 | amiconn | (shouldn't have caused a hang though, but the profiling tick frequency was wrong) |
| 20:36:08 | mirak | amiconn: pp ? |
| 20:36:16 | amiconn | portalplayer |
| 20:36:16 | mirak | ok |
| 20:36:22 | BigMac | paul have you ever codded a wps |
| 20:36:26 | BigMac | or anyone here |
| 20:36:39 | mirak | amiconn: are there any how to for profiling ? |
| 20:36:43 | BigMac | whoever has speak up because i got a question |
| 20:36:48 | BigMac | coded |
| 20:37:14 | mirak | from what I understood I need just to put the mainloop between rb->profile_thread(); and rb->profstop(); ? |
| 20:37:17 | amiconn | mirak: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SourceProfiling |
| 20:37:39 | mirak | amiconn: ok it's the same than TECH |
| 20:37:50 | amiconn | aha |
| 20:37:55 | * | amiconn never tried profiling |
| 20:38:27 | mirak | in fact I am not sure if gcc does everything or if I need to do some stuff for each function |
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| 22:52:43 | billytwowilly | hmm. so I mount my ipod mini, transfer songs over and the songs get deleted when I unmount... how do I fix this? I didn't see anything in the manual... |
| 22:53:13 | Bagder | I've never heard that one before |
| 22:54:12 | billytwowilly | well, when I plug the usb cable in some funky apple stuff starts. |
| 22:54:29 | billytwowilly | I think it's the apple firmware deleting stuff that isn't in its database |
| 22:55:24 | billytwowilly | where do you keep your music in your ipod? |
| 22:55:35 | Bagder | I don't have one |
| 22:56:17 | billytwowilly | hmm. |
| 22:56:20 | BigMac | i just place it in the root |
| 22:56:27 | billytwowilly | it didn't delete a folder I put in there now. |
| 22:56:35 | * | billytwowilly goes to remount it and put music in the folder |
| 22:57:37 | BigMac | yah then just pop it all in there |
| 22:57:56 | billytwowilly | k, so it deleted the music I put in that folder... but the directory is still there. |
| 22:57:58 | billytwowilly | weird. |
| 22:58:09 | billytwowilly | hmm. maybe it doesn't like () in the dir name |
| 22:59:39 | billytwowilly | k, weird. doesn't like () in file names/dir names. strange |
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| 23:10:25 | BigMac | anyone here still? |
| 23:12:42 | * | Bagder is here, right here in my room |
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| 23:13:44 | muesli|delhi | havin a bud..watching the game... |
| 23:13:50 | idnar | heh |
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| 23:15:59 | BigMac | in my wps i have no idea why but the prograss bar keeps getting smaller and smaller |
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| 23:18:23 | Siimors | well it can't get smaller than 1px |
| 23:18:37 | BigMac | i fugured it out |
| 23:18:40 | BigMac | yayness |
| 23:18:43 | Siimors | so u should be fine |
| 23:18:44 | Siimors | :) |
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| 23:19:02 | imoett | hi guys |
| 23:19:18 | imoett | any1 know how to modify creative zen M? |
| 23:19:37 | imoett | i need to adjust the mic volume to make better quality for recording |
| 23:19:44 | imoett | any1 have any idea? |
| 23:19:45 | Bagder | we know its a tms320-based one |
| 23:20:05 | imoett | im sorry |
| 23:20:09 | imoett | can u explain more? |
| 23:20:23 | Bagder | but hey for weird stuff that is not rockbox I advice you to find a zen m forum instead |
| 23:20:35 | Bagder | this is a channel for Rockbox-related stuff |
| 23:20:37 | imoett | oh^^ |
| 23:20:40 | imoett | i c |
| 23:20:48 | imoett | sorry for that |
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| 23:22:05 | muesli|delhi | Bagder play nicely to our guests ;) |
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