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| 00:17:57 | * | barrywardell notices a H10 LCD patch |
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| 00:19:24 | barrywardell | i really gotta rework that LCD code. |
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| 00:24:08 | nudelyn | who can i bribe to get the album art patch into cvs? :-| |
| 00:26:04 | Davide-NYC | Is anybody using eclipse currently? |
| 00:26:36 | Davide-NYC | I want to jump out of cygwin before I get too comfortable. |
| 00:26:51 | markun | Davide-NYC: I think mirak is |
| 00:27:33 | Davide-NYC | mirak: do you know of a good tutorial to get eclipse up and winning on win32 with all the necessary crosscompilers required for Rockbox hacking? |
| 00:27:48 | Davide-NYC | *running not winning, sorry |
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| 00:28:42 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: thanks for the FM Radio menus in the Sim. |
| 00:29:27 | barrywardell | hmmm. there's no H10 operating system in flyspray |
| 00:29:47 | mirak | Davide-NYC: I use eclipse on Linux |
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| 00:30:05 | mirak | Davide-NYC: but if you use eclipse you must install CDT the C plugin |
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| 00:31:28 | Davide-NYC | mirak: I remember an eclipse/rockbox tutorial somewhere on how to get it all setup, but I can;t seem to find it now. |
| 00:32:00 | mirak | I remember it but that's not usefull anymore |
| 00:32:07 | Davide-NYC | http://www.mcintoshfamily.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rockbox/buildingInEclipse.htm |
| 00:32:12 | barrywardell | I suppose I'll just call it "Another" |
| 00:32:27 | mirak | buildin through eclipse is not usefull |
| 00:32:37 | Davide-NYC | no? |
| 00:32:37 | mirak | that's the simpler to just run make from command line |
| 00:32:54 | Davide-NYC | I'm just not that great with grep yet |
| 00:32:57 | mirak | I have configured eclipse to build but I don't even use it |
| 00:33:14 | mirak | I just use it to edit code |
| 00:33:22 | Davide-NYC | and finding things and viewing files is tedious the way I'm doing it now (using ultraedit) |
| 00:33:41 | Davide-NYC | that's what I mainly want it for, editing and stepping through code |
| 00:33:48 | mirak | eclipse is good for that with CDT. you must enable full indexing in cdt |
| 00:34:17 | Davide-NYC | OK, I try to get it up and running, if I hit a problem and you're still here I'll shout, thanks |
| 00:34:18 | mirak | maybe visual c++ is good for that also |
| 00:34:26 | Davide-NYC | open source please |
| 00:34:28 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 00:34:37 | markun | We are in the news again: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=15698 |
| 00:35:40 | * | Davide-NYC wishes the H320 had optical i/o or that the H120 had a RTC. |
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| 00:41:05 | dionoea | markun: nice review :) (although it seems that he was using a quite old build ... or wrote it some time ago) |
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| 00:43:28 | XavierGr | However, I would suggest using the latest optimized builds from www.misticriver.net. <−−- pfff :( |
| 00:44:01 | XavierGr | "optimized"! what a confusing word used for these builds.... |
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| 00:46:11 | infamis_ | jhMikeS? |
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| 01:00:11 | Soap | what is the recomended text editor for windows to do (silly) unix-style LF only text documents? |
| 01:00:54 | Soap | I never understood what the point of a LF was if you didn't return the carriage! |
| 01:01:32 | pabs | there's not much point in a carriage return either without a linefeed |
| 01:02:03 | Soap | and windows does both. |
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| 01:02:29 | Soap | the right way, IMHO. I'm trying to find a history of LF only now, to see what I am missing. |
| 01:03:42 | XavierGr | notepad2 |
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| 01:04:01 | XavierGr | it will respect the CR+LF, LF or CR |
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| 01:04:10 | XavierGr | that way you won't have a problem |
| 01:04:26 | XavierGr | there are others too |
| 01:04:45 | XavierGr | but I prefer it for its simplicity while combining syntax highlithing |
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| 01:06:03 | Soap | the two things I want, thank you. |
| 01:16:36 | gopp | what is lf |
| 01:17:40 | scorche | gopp: look in their conversation and find a word that could be condensed into "lf" |
| 01:21:20 | Soap | what bugs me, is I swear I had to manually send /both/ CR and LF to the teletypes at DuPont, and this was in Cobol, in Unix, in 198x. But Wikipedia says Unix was always LF only, so I'm missing something somewhere. (probably my mind) (sorry for the offtopic again) |
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| 01:22:46 | linuxstb_ | Soap: Read this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline |
| 01:25:05 | Soap | yea |
| 01:25:34 | Soap | sorry COBOL |
| 01:25:46 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC,infamis_: I fell asleep for a bit... |
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| 01:26:52 | jhMikeS | infamis_, infamis: does it compile for you now? |
| 01:27:32 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: You're welcome...is there anything else missing (Not that I can't check it :) |
| 01:27:45 | Davide-NYC | lemme see |
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| 01:28:40 | jhMikeS | I should probably get rid of the sample rate menu until it actually selects sample rates, no? |
| 01:28:43 | Davide-NYC | uh, the silly little 'musical note' isn;t displayed instead of the sqaure stop icon. I can live with that |
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| 01:29:04 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Did it used to be? |
| 01:29:31 | Davide-NYC | on the target it is (I believe, let me make fullzip for target with this identical CVS DL) |
| 01:30:06 | dpassen | When did behavior on iRiver H1x0 series change from not stopping music immediately when holding stop to shut down? With the button action? |
| 01:31:13 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: If I pause/unpause the radio in the sim it shows up. |
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| 01:32:17 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: cool |
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| 01:32:37 | Davide-NYC | I forgot to select a station first |
| 01:32:40 | Davide-NYC | :-P |
| 01:34:46 | infamis_ | jhMikeS, sorry I took so long, had to run out....but nope, still the same error. |
| 01:35:19 | infamis_ | I wanna try your suggestion of just building m68k-elf-gcc-3.4.6 from the source under cygwin, but can't find out where to get the source from |
| 01:35:34 | jhMikeS | errr: someone tried with version 3.4.5 and it was ok |
| 01:35:43 | jhMikeS | not on the gcc site? |
| 01:36:23 | jhMikeS | infamis_: amiconn would know since he's got it |
| 01:36:34 | infamis_ | worked on 3.4.5 cygwin? |
| 01:36:45 | jhMikeS | not cygwin but gcc 3.4.5 |
| 01:36:47 | infamis_ | I went to ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc/ and did a google search for m68k-elf-gcc source but no relevant results |
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| 01:40:17 | jhMikeS | http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/coldfire/download.html ?? |
| 01:40:47 | linuxstb_ | infamis_: There's only one version of the gcc source - you configure it for th target processor before compiling it. |
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| 01:41:40 | linuxstb_ | (and the same for binutils, which you'll need as well). Instructions for compiling are in the CrossCompiler page on the Rockbox wiki. |
| 01:42:22 | infamis_ | lol....I actually did this before |
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| 01:42:29 | mirak | Davide-NYC: what do you need optical for ? |
| 01:42:58 | infamis_ | ...under linux, that is, but since I was under cygwin, I guess I incorrectly assumed everything changes |
| 01:43:45 | Davide-NYC | for when I can afford a nice preamp, or for digital transfers from dat machine (rare) or for transfers from anything optical. |
| 01:43:48 | infamis_ | linuxstb, jhMikeS; so what's the difference between gcc source & that freescale link? |
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| 01:44:26 | jhMikeS | infamis_: It appears to be coldfire only other than that I don't know...I just did some looking myself. |
| 01:45:07 | linuxstb_ | I'm guessing it's just a custom set of compilation tools based on gcc. |
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| 01:46:17 | mirak | does H120 had an internal mic ? |
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| 01:48:45 | mirak | it would be fun to have Pang game |
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| 01:56:23 | jhMikeS | I'm going to just show 44.1 kHz in the sample rate menu for now for SWCODEC and enable the mono/stereo setting for UDA1380 (this should have been done but I missed it :) |
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| 02:07:02 | infamis_ | jhMikeS, I don't need gcc-3.4.6? only gcc-core-3.4.6? |
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| 02:12:21 | Davide-NYC | mirak: yes the H120 has an internal mic |
| 02:12:41 | infamis_ | never mind that last q |
| 02:13:04 | infamis_ | make && make install |
| 02:13:09 | infamis_ | wrong win |
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| 02:19:11 | Davide-NYC | mirak: OK, I got eclipse 3.2 and CDT 3.1 installed. Now I guess I'll need to find some time and go through the CVS tutorial |
| 02:19:24 | Davide-NYC | anothing I'm missing? |
| 02:20:08 | Davide-NYC | will it compile correctly as-is or do I need something else? (sorry if I sound so dumb, but I'm not a real programmer, I just pretend) |
| 02:20:13 | mirak | cvs is easy to use with eclipse |
| 02:20:24 | mirak | create a new CVS project |
| 02:20:37 | mirak | then convert it to standart C projet |
| 02:21:10 | Davide-NYC | default workspace OK? |
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| 02:25:32 | Davide-NYC | default module name should be rockbox-devel? |
| 02:26:05 | Davide-NYC | oh the sweetness... |
| 02:33:44 | infamis_ | jhMikeS: as: unrecognized option `-mc68020' |
| 02:36:28 | jhMikeS | infamis: huh? what are you doing? You'll probably need the assembler as well. I've never build the cross compiler myself. |
| 02:37:16 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: There should be channel selection and a sample rate menu (w/one item for now) on iRiver |
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| 02:37:55 | Davide-NYC | Much action! |
| 02:38:14 | jhMikeS | gonna look at the makefile |
| 02:38:17 | infamis_ | I downloaded gcc-3.4.6, configured with −−target=m68k-elf, and made |
| 02:38:34 | infamis_ | I meant "make"d and it's failing on this: |
| 02:39:14 | jhMikeS | infamis_: well...it's obviously possible. amiconn is proof of that but I'll try and muddle through it with you. |
| 02:39:29 | infamis_ | ./xgcc -B./ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/bin/ -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/sys-include -L/usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/../ld -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition-isystem ./include -I. -I. -I../../gcc -I../../gcc/. -I../../gcc/../include -g0 -finhibit-siz |
| 02:39:35 | infamis_ | as: unrecognized option `-mc68020' |
| 02:39:38 | infamis_ | make: *** [crtbegin.o] Error 1 |
| 02:39:46 | jhMikeS | doing what? building rockbox? |
| 02:39:59 | infamis_ | gcc 3.4.6 for m68k-elf under cygwin |
| 02:40:10 | infamis_ | ^ building gcc 3.4.6 ....etc. |
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| 02:43:37 | jhMikeS | infamis_: you went through this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler ? |
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| 02:44:51 | infamis_ | yup...but I think I found it: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:o__5AnWgAokJ:www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1999-04/msg00522.html+as:+unrecognized+option+%60-mc68020%27&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a |
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| 02:45:05 | infamis_ | I need cross-binutils |
| 02:45:26 | jhMikeS | I though it needed the as |
| 02:45:58 | infamis_ | and...cygwin.com would be conveniently down right now |
| 02:46:12 | jhMikeS | :D oh man |
| 02:46:21 | infamis_ | or maybe the version of as I have isn't cross-compilable(don't nkow if that's a word) |
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| 02:46:32 | jhMikeS | those utilities don't come with it? |
| 02:46:52 | jhMikeS | 3.4.6 should be useable on cygwin |
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| 02:47:47 | infamis_ | I have binutils....I'm guessing as is part of that package? |
| 02:47:51 | linuxstb_ | infamis: You need to compile and install binutils (cross-compiled for m68k) first |
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| 02:49:15 | infamis_ | yeah....this is beginning to sound like a "sunday" task |
| 02:51:11 | infamis_ | ah! what am I talking about...this is easy right there in the wiki it says it...lol |
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| 02:51:58 | jhMikeS | infamis_: But it's only Friday...:| |
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| 02:52:37 | infamis_ | I can wait 2 days ;) |
| 02:52:53 | jhMikeS | It'll take three! |
| 02:53:11 | infamis_ | just playing, but yeah I'm building binutils right now (with the correct target)...just that building stuff on cygwin takes forever |
| 02:53:31 | infamis_ | seems only have enough time on sundays |
| 02:53:33 | jhMikeS | why are you stuck on cygwin? I don't get it. |
| 02:54:09 | Davide-NYC | eclipse is crazy, maybe I should learn to crawl before I try to run |
| 02:54:13 | infamis_ | cause I'm on windows...and vm-whatever seems like a whole nother can of worms |
| 02:54:34 | jhMikeS | the vmware is really really simple |
| 02:54:52 | jhMikeS | It's what I use and it's worth the almost no trouble at all |
| 02:55:20 | jhMikeS | 10 times faster easy |
| 02:55:24 | Davide-NYC | vmware makes my (rather bloated) system a bit unstable. |
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| 02:55:42 | jhMikeS | you can knock down the memory after installing it |
| 02:55:51 | Davide-NYC | Proably due to the fact that various versions have been on and off of this install |
| 02:56:01 | Febs | I'm installing VMware right now on my new company laptop. I was using cygwin on my old laptop, but I figure since I'm installing from scratch here, might as well try the vmware. |
| 02:56:12 | Davide-NYC | I think it's a registry disaster issue. Too much junk. |
| 02:56:18 | jhMikeS | I had cygwin and am glad I dumped it |
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| 02:56:26 | * | scorche emits a cheer for vmware |
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| 02:56:47 | scorche | i got fed up with cygwin... |
| 02:56:54 | Davide-NYC | hmm, do we have near concensus? Linux native or VMWare, stay off the cygwin? |
| 02:56:59 | * | linuxstb_ hugs Debian |
| 02:57:03 | jhMikeS | me too...I'd never get anything done that way |
| 02:57:05 | infamis_ | cygwin is undoubtedly slow, but....for the most part I'm fine with it.... |
| 02:57:11 | * | scorche hugs linuxstb_ |
| 02:57:14 | jhMikeS | stay off cygwin... |
| 02:57:27 | scorche | err... |
| 02:57:30 | infamis_ | but RB fully embraces it on the wiki ;) |
| 02:57:45 | jhMikeS | infamis_: If you try vmware and get it to work you ask yourself "why?" |
| 02:57:57 | Davide-NYC | I can;t do the VMWare until I extricate my raid array from my workstation. |
| 02:57:58 | scorche | indeed |
| 02:58:04 | Galois | or try linux |
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| 02:58:19 | scorche | vmware *is* linux =P |
| 02:58:27 | infamis_ | what the heck do you download??? http://www.vmware.com/download/ |
| 02:58:38 | Galois | I heard qemu works in windows too |
| 02:58:44 | Davide-NYC | there's a special RB version, no? |
| 02:58:45 | jhMikeS | Aren't there supposed to be some tools for cut/paste between linux/windows a vmw? |
| 02:58:56 | scorche | Davide-NYC: there is |
| 02:59:09 | jhMikeS | infamis_: The instructions are int the wiki page too for setup |
| 02:59:23 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 02:59:36 | scorche | but yeah...after vmware, i wondered why i used cygwin... |
| 02:59:56 | Davide-NYC | It just will not play well my (admittedly strange) machine |
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| 03:00:01 | Davide-NYC | :-( |
| 03:00:33 | jhMikeS | but I have a tip: in rockbox.vmx set memsize = "32" |
| 03:00:34 | infamis_ | ...vmware ain't free???...forget about it |
| 03:00:37 | scorche | it is |
| 03:01:14 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: souldn;t frequency be samplerate? |
| 03:01:23 | infamis_ | all I see are evaluate & buy links on that download page |
| 03:01:32 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Eventually :) |
| 03:01:44 | scorche | infamis_: work off of the directions on the wiki page |
| 03:01:47 | Davide-NYC | what do you mean? |
| 03:01:53 | jhMikeS | that's what's in the lang files |
| 03:01:54 | infamis_ | never mind, guess I just need vmware player |
| 03:01:57 | scorche | and you might want to get that dl started ;) |
| 03:01:58 | Galois | vmware player is free like beer, qemu is free like GPL |
| 03:02:13 | scorche | haha...free like beer? |
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| 03:02:16 | infamis_ | free like beer??? |
| 03:02:23 | scorche | ...i wish |
| 03:02:24 | jhMikeS | who has free beer??? |
| 03:02:30 | infamis_ | ^what he said |
| 03:02:31 | Galois | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_beer |
| 03:02:33 | * | jhMikeS wants free beer |
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| 03:02:46 | * | Davide-NYC stupid diet - 200cal per |
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| 03:03:50 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: since we're going menu crazy, how about separating the encoding type and the bitrate? I think the recording menu is getting a little big. |
| 03:03:52 | jhMikeS | Cerveza gratis o cerveza libre <== haha |
| 03:04:16 | Davide-NYC | maybe we need to rework it to make it a bit more elegant. |
| 03:04:18 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: That's coming too...but is difficult. It's a relic from the mas codec |
| 03:04:24 | Davide-NYC | will give it some thought. |
| 03:04:33 | Davide-NYC | please define mas |
| 03:04:42 | jhMikeS | I'm working on what you're talking about now |
| 03:04:56 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:04:57 | jhMikeS | The hardware codec chip in archos players |
| 03:05:07 | * | Davide-NYC wonders what I am talking about... |
| 03:05:14 | Davide-NYC | Got it. |
| 03:05:38 | Davide-NYC | qq: if I wanted to try to mess with the WRS text formatting, what files should I be looking at? |
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| 03:06:16 | jhMikeS | I want full config screens for each format...but this is complicated because sample rates and codecs don't always fully agree so the sr selections will have to be different depending on the encoder. |
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| 03:06:57 | infamis_ | anyone with an x5? |
| 03:07:25 | jhMikeS | Some sample rates I'll use the DSP to synthesize starting with say 44100Hz and changing it to 32000Hz for mp3 for example. I can't support 32000Hz with the hw itself. |
| 03:07:36 | infamis_ | fm radio quality seems poor but don't know if it's just me |
| 03:07:37 | Davide-NYC | does this have to be implented across all platforms? |
| 03:07:37 | jhMikeS | infamis_: That's me...x5 |
| 03:08:06 | infamis_ | then again I never used it under the original cowon firmware |
| 03:08:13 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: I'll make it work on all software codec players with recording...yes |
| 03:08:36 | Davide-NYC | but not on the old archos targets (I'm thinking about UI on tiny screens) |
| 03:09:09 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: This stuff has nothing to do with archos since archos has a different playback/recording core. |
| 03:10:15 | jhMikeS | So...no for those...iRiver and x5 are the only ones with the sw encoders now anyway...maybe iPods will get it too when someone implements recording features there. |
| 03:10:16 | Davide-NYC | what targets are HW vs SW |
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| 03:10:29 | jhMikeS | HW = Archos |
| 03:10:31 | infamis_ | is vmware a layer on top of the OS? |
| 03:10:35 | jhMikeS | SW = everything else |
| 03:10:50 | jhMikeS | infamis_: It's a virtual computer |
| 03:10:57 | jhMikeS | You're really running Linux there |
| 03:10:59 | Davide-NYC | OndioFM = HW? |
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| 03:11:02 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 03:11:23 | infamis_ | but does it start before the OS or is it something started from within the OS? |
| 03:11:32 | scorche | from within |
| 03:11:33 | jhMikeS | infamis_: don't ignore my earlier tip or the machine might not start...^^^ |
| 03:11:34 | Davide-NYC | within the OS in a window |
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| 03:11:54 | infamis_ | cool.... |
| 03:12:00 | infamis_ | jhMikeS, about the memory size? |
| 03:12:01 | jhMikeS | You just double click the rockbox.vmx file and it starts in a window |
| 03:12:27 | jhMikeS | infamis_: yes |
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| 03:13:20 | jhMikeS | Mine wouldn't work right away...I have 256mb and I think it wanted almost all of that...no help on the web either about that. |
| 03:14:02 | jhMikeS | If the machine won't start due to memory, you can't get to the memory setting in the player...makes a lot of sense huh? so you gotta edit the file |
| 03:14:40 | infamis_ | I think I'll try it out tomorrow or eventually...wanna see if this cygwin compile works first though |
| 03:14:45 | scorche | the rockbox image even has samba for easy filesharing between your computer and the virtual one =D |
| 03:16:11 | infamis_ | vmware doesn't really function as a permanent solution to having linux & windows, just a temporary thing for doing stuff when you only need linux for a while? |
| 03:16:26 | jhMikeS | I just use a mapped drive |
| 03:16:30 | BHSPitLappy | or vice versa. |
| 03:17:12 | scorche | well, i havent booted into linux (on my main comp) since installing vmware... |
| 03:17:32 | jhMikeS | I wish I could run vmware on wine on vmware |
| 03:17:47 | scorche | ...why? |
| 03:17:50 | infamis_ | why? |
| 03:17:57 | jhMikeS | for the hell of it! :) |
| 03:17:59 | infamis_ | isn't wine another emulator? |
| 03:18:13 | scorche | wine is not an emulator |
| 03:18:16 | jhMikeS | yes...emulators within emulators... |
| 03:18:18 | infamis_ | or whatever the techinical name is |
| 03:18:22 | scorche | =P |
| 03:18:31 | infamis_ | simulator? |
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| 03:18:57 | Davide-NYC | recursive acronym |
| 03:19:07 | Davide-NYC | (read that somewhere) |
| 03:19:09 | scorche | The name 'Wine' derives from the recursive acronym "Wine Is Not an Emulator", although some have used the unofficial expansion "Windows Emulator". While the name sometimes appears in the forms "WINE" and "wine", the project developers have agreed to standardize on the form "Wine". The recursive acronym Wine resembles that of LAME (Lame Ain't an MP3 Encoder). |
| 03:19:33 | Davide-NYC | shouldn;t that be WINAE then? |
| 03:19:55 | scorche | many acronyms omit a for and/an/a |
| 03:20:03 | jhMikeS | prepositions don't get included |
| 03:20:06 | Davide-NYC | anybody want to help me figure out what's wrong with my eclipse install? |
| 03:20:23 | jhMikeS | or aticles: a, an, the |
| 03:20:24 | Davide-NYC | Eclipse 3.2 with CDT installed fine |
| 03:20:46 | Davide-NYC | CVS checkout no problem |
| 03:21:10 | Davide-NYC | no idea how to configure my makefile or make for that matter |
| 03:21:13 | Davide-NYC | ;-P |
| 03:21:52 | Davide-NYC | staring at a gorgeous IDE though. |
| 03:21:52 | infamis_ | tools/configure? |
| 03:21:59 | Davide-NYC | in eclipse. |
| 03:22:22 | infamis_ | you're trying to build all through the ide? |
| 03:22:36 | Davide-NYC | I would love to. Is this not possible? |
| 03:23:16 | infamis_ | why do you want an ide? |
| 03:23:29 | Davide-NYC | brb |
| 03:23:30 | jhMikeS | I'd love a rb project for MS Visual C++ |
| 03:24:00 | infamis_ | that's what I do....of course I can't build with it, but for source browsing & symbol lookup, works alright |
| 03:24:33 | infamis_ | mainly just for navigating through the source |
| 03:24:47 | scorche | curious....anyone happen to have tried source insight? |
| 03:25:03 | jhMikeS | what is it? |
| 03:25:51 | scorche | sourceinsight.com |
| 03:26:14 | scorche | when i am in windows, i usually use that...i like it |
| 03:27:01 | scorche | sad thing is, it isnt free though |
| 03:27:44 | jhMikeS | That's not free beer for sure! |
| 03:27:46 | infamis_ | yeah that is very sad for a poor college student like me |
| 03:28:05 | scorche | a company i used to work for used it, so i got it for free =) |
| 03:28:17 | scorche | but, it is a nice program (at least i think so) |
| 03:28:21 | jhMikeS | Just think how drunk you could get with that much money and then not even give a damn about Rockbox anymore. |
| 03:28:42 | billytwowilly | kde has a really good development environment thingy.. I forget what it's called. |
| 03:28:51 | infamis_ | well, gcc 3.4.6 doesn't compile.....I give up... |
| 03:29:03 | scorche | there *is* a trial version though |
| 03:29:14 | billytwowilly | that means there will be a crack... |
| 03:29:31 | scorche | but, we dont discuss illegal topics here =) |
| 03:29:32 | infamis_ | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccD10fYo.s: Assembler messages: |
| 03:29:36 | infamis_ | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccD10fYo.s:29: Error: operands mismatch −− statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored |
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| 03:30:22 | scorche | billytwowilly: KDevelop...it is pretty decent |
| 03:30:34 | scorche | but, when i am in linux, well.... <3 vim |
| 03:30:46 | billytwowilly | heh. |
| 03:30:55 | billytwowilly | so just install vim in cygwin;) |
| 03:31:07 | billytwowilly | then you have your ideal development environment in windows too;) |
| 03:31:09 | scorche | i have it in vmware =) |
| 03:31:22 | billytwowilly | oooh.. inefficient... |
| 03:31:31 | infamis_ | vim is too featured for a text-editor |
| 03:31:40 | scorche | i wonder if source insight would work in wine... |
| 03:31:50 | billytwowilly | try out kdevelop. |
| 03:31:59 | scorche | i have |
| 03:32:04 | billytwowilly | my buddy who codes described it as joygasmic. |
| 03:32:24 | billytwowilly | if you haven't tried it in the last six months you should probably try it again... I think it gets developed fairly rapidly.. |
| 03:33:00 | scorche | i am never in kde anyway (i know that isnt much of an issue, but meh) |
| 03:36:19 | billytwowilly | man, I'm so torn. |
| 03:36:25 | billytwowilly | oops. wrong channel. |
| 03:38:25 | jhMikeS | brb |
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| 03:40:49 | | Quit infamis ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 03:41:25 | infamis_ | somebody kick me? |
| 03:42:48 | | Nick infamis_ is now known as infamis (i=4511161b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-97fed4dd4fd8fd55) |
| 03:44:32 | * | billytwowilly kicks infamis |
| 03:45:26 | infamis | ouch |
| 03:46:08 | * | billytwowilly apologizes. |
| 03:46:14 | billytwowilly | sorry, couldn't resist.... |
| 03:46:52 | infamis | no need to apologize, I needed it for asking dumb questions.... |
| 03:50:04 | infamis | well, gcc still doesn't compile.... |
| 03:50:06 | infamis | I give up |
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| 03:53:46 | infamis | built binutils for target=m68k-elf, set prefix to /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6; make && make install; export PATH=/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/bin; tried to build gcc with −−target=m68k-elf −−enable-languages=c....still doesn't work |
| 03:55:10 | infamis | /usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/xgcc -B/usr/src/gcc-3.4.6/build/gcc/ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/bin/ -B/usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/lib/ -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf/sys-include -O2 -DIN_GCC -DCROSS_COMPILE -W -Wall -Wwrite-strings -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -isystem ./include -g -DIN_LIBGCC |
| 03:55:11 | infamis | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s: Assembler messages: |
| 03:55:15 | infamis | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s:29: Error: operands mismatch −− statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored |
| 03:55:18 | infamis | /cygdrive/c/DOCUME~1/infamis/LOCALS~1/Temp/ccFEyfBv.s:41: Error: operands mismatch −− statement `fmovem.l %fpcr,%d1' ignored |
| 03:55:25 | infamis | make[2]: *** [libgcc/m68040/_fixunsdfsi.o] Error 1 |
| 03:55:59 | BHSPitLappy | that's an impressive flood. |
| 03:56:05 | scorche | infamis: mind using something like pastebin in the future? |
| 03:56:31 | jhMikeS | I think there's a small patch in the wiki under building the cross compiler |
| 03:56:34 | infamis | sure if you tell me what I did wrong... |
| 03:57:03 | BHSPitLappy | you pasted a flood of text in a conversational IRC channel, for one... |
| 03:57:27 | scorche | hehe... |
| 03:57:44 | jhMikeS | That's not bad I've pasted huge long pieces of code a couple times by accident from my clipboard...I'm very careful now. |
| 03:57:46 | aliask | Perhaps try building binutils without the −−prefix |
| 03:57:53 | infamis | http://pastebin.ca/158284 ;) |
| 03:58:19 | aliask | You'll need to be root to do that though |
| 03:58:44 | infamis | aliask, I'll try that, after that I really give up...cause cygwin takes forever... |
| 03:58:58 | * | scorche cheers again for vmware |
| 03:59:11 | infamis | lol |
| 03:59:19 | jhMikeS | on some cygwin systems, the compilation of the multilibs may fail (...fmovem.l...blabla...illegal operands...). I don't know why this happens, but there is a workaround. After downloading and unpacking the gcc source code, download the patch on the bottom of this page and install it. The patch is made on gcc-3.4.3, but it might work on earlier versions too. |
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| 04:01:29 | infamis | cool, there's a 3.4.6 patch from BarryWardell on aug 10, '06...trying that |
| 04:01:41 | DanManners | I'm sorry to inturupt the conversations going on, but can someone please give me write-access to rename/delete things? I accidentally didn't hit hide file on the WPS 5G upload page, so now it's visible by everyone, and I need to fix it |
| 04:05:16 | infamis | make |
| 04:05:43 | infamis | lol that was a lot of text |
| 04:05:47 | infamis | sorry! |
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| 04:07:58 | Dunkelschub | I have a question |
| 04:09:18 | jhMikeS | make? |
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| 04:10:20 | aliask | Dunkelschub: Ask |
| 04:10:27 | DanManners | I'm sorry to inturupt the conversations going on, but can someone please give me write-access to rename/delete things? I accidentally didn't hit hide file on the WPS 5G upload page, so now it's visible by everyone, and I need to fix it |
| 04:10:31 | Dunkelschub | Does rockbox support Toshiba Gigabeat yet? |
| 04:10:41 | aliask | Nope |
| 04:10:55 | Dunkelschub | k, thanks anyway |
| 04:10:56 | aliask | Hopefully soon though, markun and his gang are working pretty hard on it |
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| 04:13:15 | billytwowilly | bah, the sansa e200 series is better;) |
| 04:13:18 | jhMikeS | vmware vmware vmware vmware vmware vmware |
| 04:14:05 | billytwowilly | vmware is a nice program. |
| 04:14:24 | * | jhMikeS cheers for clonazepam |
| 04:15:25 | jhMikeS | debian debian debian |
| 04:15:33 | aliask | DanManners: I've made the attachment hidden for you, I don't know how to give you access though, I think you might have to ask the web-admins when they come on later. |
| 04:17:34 | billytwowilly | ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu |
| 04:18:22 | Ctcp | Ping on #rockbox from jhMikeS!n=jethead7@adsl-68-73-204-53.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net |
| 04:18:22 | *** | Server message 505: 'logbot :Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )' |
| 04:19:10 | billytwowilly | hmm. |
| 04:19:20 | jhMikeS | mmhhh |
| 04:19:26 | billytwowilly | I'm not sure what you got out of the ctcp ping jhMikeS... |
| 04:19:54 | jhMikeS | nothing...just messing with commands to see what they do |
| 04:20:00 | billytwowilly | heh. |
| 04:20:06 | billytwowilly | I used to use visual irc. hurt my eyes... |
| 04:20:24 | billytwowilly | black text on a white background (or the other way around) is where it's at;) |
| 04:20:26 | Febs | DanManners, I added you to the wiki users group so you should be able to edit wiki pages now. |
| 04:22:01 | * | Febs just noticed that DanManners was already in the twiki users group. |
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| 04:22:31 | jhMikeS | billytwowilly: I guess you get alerted to pings? Does everyone? Just curious. |
| 04:23:16 | billytwowilly | yep.. |
| 04:23:28 | billytwowilly | you're pinging me dude... my irc client has to respond... |
| 04:23:43 | billytwowilly | anything with ctcp in front of it shows up.. |
| 04:23:50 | billytwowilly | you can whois though and I won't see it.. |
| 04:23:54 | jhMikeS | everyone got one |
| 04:24:53 | billytwowilly | oh.. |
| 04:24:56 | jhMikeS | Yours says "Private CTCP VERSION:" with no response |
| 04:25:03 | billytwowilly | don't do that, it is super mega lame... |
| 04:25:07 | jhMikeS | ok...sorry |
| 04:25:21 | billytwowilly | I don't care.. it's just super mega lame... |
| 04:25:29 | billytwowilly | acuna matata |
| 04:25:50 | jhMikeS | hey now...there's no malicious intent on my part...just experimenting |
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| 04:28:34 | Soap | BigMac - Have you released your WPS yet? |
| 04:28:52 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: is I want to mess with the "while recording screen" what files should I take a look at |
| 04:28:53 | Davide-NYC | ? |
| 04:29:03 | jhMikeS | recording.c |
| 04:29:20 | jhMikeS | apps/recorder/recording.c |
| 04:29:45 | infamis | I have an m68k-elf directory |
| 04:30:17 | Davide-NYC | wow, it's all in that one file huh? |
| 04:30:25 | jhMikeS | infamis: so do I...:) |
| 04:30:45 | infamis | lol...under my prefix'd /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6 directory |
| 04:31:46 | infamis | /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6/m68k-elf and it has .bin/ and lib/ |
| 04:32:04 | infamis | damn...keep forgetting those slashes makes it an IRC command |
| 04:32:18 | jhMikeS | \/ |
| 04:32:23 | jhMikeS | / |
| 04:32:42 | actionshrimp | infamis -> do ctrl+enter |
| 04:32:52 | jhMikeS | infamis: type "/ping #rockbox" |
| 04:32:55 | jhMikeS | lol |
| 04:33:11 | jhMikeS | don't do it...just kidding |
| 04:33:22 | infamis | actionshrimp, must be this webclient...still went to the server instead of the channel |
| 04:33:41 | actionshrimp | ah damn |
| 04:33:43 | infamis | you said /ping #rockbox, hold on.... |
| 04:34:03 | infamis | didn't come up... |
| 04:34:31 | infamis | ok...the reason I asked is cause of this: |
| 04:34:36 | jhMikeS | infamis: so it compiled right? |
| 04:34:52 | infamis | nah...still trying.... |
| 04:35:00 | infamis | my prefix (for binutils) was: /usr/local/m68k-elf-3.4.6 |
| 04:35:04 | jhMikeS | man...you'd be using vmware by now |
| 04:35:22 | scorche | depending on your connection... |
| 04:35:49 | infamis | that gave me bin/ with m68k-elf-* files in there, for example, m68k-elf-as, -ar, -ld, etc.. |
| 04:36:17 | infamis | but inside the [prefix]/m68k-elf I have a bin/ with ar, as, ld, etc... |
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| 04:36:31 | infamis | wiki says to set path to my [prefix]/bin |
| 04:36:52 | jhMikeS | it should work as long as it's in your path right? |
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| 04:36:54 | infamis | however, if I don't set path to [prefix]/bin:[prefix/m68k-elf/bin], it doesn't compile either |
| 04:37:18 | infamis | ....[prefix]/m68k-elf/bin:$PATH I mean |
| 04:37:30 | jhMikeS | scorche: true...don't know what he's using |
| 04:38:01 | infamis | who me? |
| 04:38:08 | infamis | I just have DSL |
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| 04:39:06 | jhMikeS | infamis: so do I |
| 04:39:07 | infamis | this is my last trial at compiling, then I'm getting drunk |
| 04:40:03 | infamis | can you use vmware if you already have linux already installed on a partition? |
| 04:40:10 | jhMikeS | there's nothing inside the ar as ld etc.? |
| 04:40:20 | scorche | yes |
| 04:41:45 | infamis | inside what? come again? |
| 04:42:00 | jhMikeS | you said you had bin/ with ar as ls etc... |
| 04:42:06 | jhMikeS | ld |
| 04:42:35 | infamis | here's some ls output: http://pastebin.com/781769 |
| 04:44:27 | infamis | does that dir-structure look right? |
| 04:45:18 | [HO]vo|t | has the bug where pressing "joystick right" sometimes reacts as you had pressed "joystick center" been mentioned anywhere? |
| 04:45:29 | [HO]vo|t | sorry; on the iAudio x5 |
| 04:45:57 | jhMikeS | infamis: looking... |
| 04:46:44 | infamis | hovolt, I've noticed that too.. |
| 04:47:10 | infamis | pastebin.com is slow, I'll stick to pastebin.ca |
| 04:48:34 | [HO]vo|t | infamis: if jhMikeS has an x5 as well, i believe he mentioned the same problem last time i talked with him |
| 04:49:58 | jhMikeS | /usr/local/m68k/bin has it all on debian |
| 04:50:21 | jhMikeS | [HO]vo|t: something like that seems to happen yes |
| 04:50:48 | infamis | so you don't have an m68k-elf subdir under /usr/local/m68k, everything you see in my m68k-elf is in the previously mentioned directory? |
| 04:50:57 | jhMikeS | no |
| 04:52:03 | jhMikeS | all tools are in /usr/local/m68k/bin |
| 04:54:35 | infamis | yeah...`which as` still returns /usr/bin/as...I'm gonna just throw that stuff in the main [prefix]/bin directory....then I give up for real!! |
| 04:55:04 | jhMikeS | put it where the tools are now eh? |
| 04:55:06 | DanManners | aliask: Thank you |
| 04:55:22 | * | jhMikeS has to make some espresso...brb |
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| 04:56:24 | infamis | so far so good.... |
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| 04:58:12 | ootput | previously, when holding menu while plugging in the ac-adaptor, my ipod mini would display a little icon (resembling an electrical plug). Occasionally (that is, at this very moment) the icon is not visible. Is this a known rockbox quirk? |
| 04:58:13 | infamis | well, it worked (compiling gcc, that is)...... |
| 05:00 |
| 05:01:02 | infamis | make install put everything in /usr/local/m68k-elf though |
| 05:04:18 | infamis | well, I accomplished my task...time to reward myself by getting drunk... |
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| 05:17:31 | jhMikeS | infamis: drunk yet? |
| 05:17:45 | infamis | lol, I had to compile one mor etime!!! |
| 05:17:51 | jhMikeS | and... |
| 05:17:58 | Davide-NYC | arghh eclipse... must configure make |
| 05:18:28 | infamis | it worked...just wanted to make sure I had everything right and wasn't just guessing....now I'm building rb |
| 05:18:54 | * | jhMikeS sees so many names here of people that never say anything and are logged in about 24/7 |
| 05:18:58 | Davide-NYC | I downloaded the sripts from the rockbox <−−> eclipse howto but they are ancient... any guru want to help update them? |
| 05:19:04 | billytwowilly | heh. |
| 05:19:10 | billytwowilly | I only recently started saying anything. |
| 05:19:33 | jhMikeS | you started at least a week or so ago |
| 05:19:37 | billytwowilly | and I idle on freenode all the time because of #ubuntu and #edmonton-lug |
| 05:19:45 | billytwowilly | yah, but most of the stuff I said was mean and jerkish;) |
| 05:19:49 | infamis | ahhh!!!! I give up now..... |
| 05:20:01 | jhMikeS | que paso, infamis? |
| 05:20:07 | infamis | tools/configure w/ x5 (30).... |
| 05:20:08 | billytwowilly | overall, I'm part of the problem I think;) |
| 05:20:11 | infamis | "Using m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.6 (304)" |
| 05:20:36 | infamis | ....mp3_enc.c:2430: error: can't find a register in class `ADDR_REGS' while reloaBLAH BLAH BLAH |
| 05:20:46 | infamis | must just be cygwin |
| 05:20:54 | jhMikeS | hakuna matata! |
| 05:21:19 | jhMikeS | damn...you've got worse probs than the compiler then |
| 05:21:22 | Davide-NYC | Please someone helpme. |
| 05:22:00 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: what is eclipse? (I'm so dumb) :) |
| 05:22:11 | infamis | a cross-platform IDE! |
| 05:22:26 | Davide-NYC | eclipse.org |
| 05:23:23 | jhMikeS | infamis: but it did force me to clean up that asm which I'm happy about anyway :) |
| 05:23:32 | Davide-NYC | I mean, if I can get this thing working correctly I will write something up and toss it up on the Twiki (assuming it's easy to put stuff on the Twiki) |
| 05:23:57 | Davide-NYC | how to I paste code snippets? |
| 05:24:09 | jhMikeS | If you register...just edit or did that change since the destruction before |
| 05:25:03 | infamis | ? |
| 05:25:17 | jhMikeS | ??????????????????????? |
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| 05:25:32 | Davide-NYC | no, I meant pastebin.com |
| 05:25:32 | jhMikeS | http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/instructions.php ??? |
| 05:25:52 | jhMikeS | oh...goto pastebin.ca |
| 05:25:53 | infamis | use pastebin.ca; pastebin.com is slow |
| 05:26:02 | Davide-NYC | wow no kidding@ |
| 05:26:31 | jhMikeS | just post the url it gives you when you've pasted |
| 05:27:31 | jhMikeS | http://pastebin.ca/158419 |
| 05:27:34 | Davide-NYC | OK, check this old script for getting eclipse to build make target in cygwin... http://pastebin.ca/158417 |
| 05:28:00 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: feeling nicey nice or what? |
| 05:28:04 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 05:28:29 | Davide-NYC | I mean that script is obviously ancient |
| 05:28:57 | jhMikeS | From the days of Archos only? |
| 05:29:25 | Davide-NYC | I guess |
| 05:29:55 | * | billytwowilly is from the days of archos only and is offended by being called ancient |
| 05:30:13 | jhMikeS | billytwowilly: wasn't that like two years ago? |
| 05:30:22 | Davide-NYC | I have the eclipse IDE installed with the C/C++ plugin (called CDT) and I was able to check out CVS code. |
| 05:30:40 | jhMikeS | ok...what's broken? (did you say?) |
| 05:30:50 | Davide-NYC | I can compile with cygwin no problem, so I'm nearly there |
| 05:31:14 | Davide-NYC | I have cygwin installed in C;|cygwin and eclipse installed in C:\eclipse |
| 05:31:25 | Davide-NYC | that pipe symbol should be a backslash |
| 05:31:37 | billytwowilly | jhMikeS: I dunno..lemme think.. nope. atleast 3 years ago;) |
| 05:32:09 | jhMikeS | ok...I'm from the days of two months after getting sound on the x5 |
| 05:32:49 | billytwowilly | awe;) You're practically a rockbox virgin;) |
| 05:32:59 | * | billytwowilly used to own an archos jukebox 6000 |
| 05:33:06 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: what's broken though? why are you crying "help"? |
| 05:33:29 | Davide-NYC | I can't make from eclipse. |
| 05:33:43 | jhMikeS | I'm suprise I was granted CVS access and dev status so fast. I hadn't actually looked at RB source code till july |
| 05:33:56 | Davide-NYC | It can be done. I was done back in Sept 2003. But the script isnow broken. |
| 05:34:35 | Davide-NYC | I would love to be able to update that script, comment it up properly and then host it on the Twiki for other who want to use eclipse as their IDE |
| 05:34:57 | * | Davide-NYC wants to learn the damn thing and the only thing that hold his interest is RB. |
| 05:35:19 | Davide-NYC | check out this page: http://www.mcintoshfamily.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/rockbox/buildingInEclipse.htm |
| 05:35:25 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Man...I wish I could help but I didn't even know about it till 10 mins ago. |
| 05:36:16 | Davide-NYC | I htink it would benefit many. Jumping from editor to command line is clunky |
| 05:36:46 | Davide-NYC | can we step through code while using the simulator? |
| 05:37:03 | Davide-NYC | I'd love to see some of this stuff actually 'stepping' |
| 05:37:11 | infamis | jhMikeS, with regards to mp3_enc, do you think this error is because the output parameters specifies 3 address registers will be read/write ("+a"), but the reg clobber list lists registers that the assembler shouldn't use as those +a registers? |
| 05:37:15 | jhMikeS | I'd love to see stepping on the actual hardware |
| 05:37:20 | Davide-NYC | (took ASM 100 years ago in college) |
| 05:37:33 | Davide-NYC | it's called trampling |
| 05:37:40 | * | scorche didnt realize ASM existed back then |
| 05:37:46 | infamis | ...and there's not enough registers left? |
| 05:38:09 | infamis | I know there's a0-a7, a7=stack, so does that make the usable registers only 7 or is it less? |
| 05:38:14 | jhMikeS | infamis??: amiconn check it out and there is at least one a reg left |
| 05:38:45 | jhMikeS | It builds for me and you have 3.4.6 so I think your problems lie elsewhere. |
| 05:38:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn can build it np too on cygwin |
| 05:39:17 | jhMikeS | It only uses %a5 explicitly |
| 05:39:34 | infamis | amiconn can build on cygwin??? wtf? |
| 05:39:53 | infamis | where else can the problem lie??? |
| 05:40:01 | jhMikeS | woops wrong block |
| 05:40:04 | jhMikeS | "a2", "a3", "a4", "a5" |
| 05:40:05 | Davide-NYC | I sent the author of the eclipse/rockbox guide an email. Maybe he'll update. |
| 05:40:19 | jhMikeS | infamis: that's what he uses |
| 05:40:32 | jhMikeS | infamis: so I know it should work...and he has 3.4.6 installed |
| 05:40:45 | jhMikeS | maybe something is invoking the old tools |
| 05:41:08 | infamis | where tools=? |
| 05:41:17 | jhMikeS | You probably should use the generic /usr/local/bin/m68k |
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| 05:41:40 | jhMikeS | I have a cygwin install on my other computer that's rotting but I'll look at it. |
| 05:41:51 | sharpe | evening everyone. |
| 05:42:19 | infamis | ok, well, time for that drink...lol |
| 05:43:46 | infamis | I'm at work & have experienced this problem on both cygwin installs so tomorrow I'll completely reinstall cygwin...if that doesn't work, I really give up (how many times have I said that...!) |
| 05:44:02 | jhMikeS | you should have cygwin/opt/m68k/m68k-elf/[bin and lib] |
| 05:44:15 | scorche | give in!...install vmware already! =D |
| 05:44:25 | jhMikeS | Copy the tools to that dir |
| 05:44:36 | jhMikeS | or rather their respective ones |
| 05:44:40 | infamis | yeah the last time I compiled, I set /opt/m68k as my prefix as that's where the existing one was |
| 05:44:49 | infamis | what tools are you talking about?? |
| 05:45:12 | jhMikeS | all the tools to bin as...etc |
| 05:45:50 | infamis | oh ok\ |
| 05:45:54 | jhMikeS | /m68k/bin should contain the exe's |
| 05:46:17 | jhMikeS | just look through it and see what files go where and replace with new builds |
| 05:46:35 | jhMikeS | my cygwin has 3.4.5 is that what yours had? |
| 05:46:54 | infamis | yeah it _had_ 3.4.5, then tonight I got up to 3.4.6. |
| 05:48:00 | jhMikeS | If you have more trouble...talk to amiconn...he'll know exactly what to do. |
| 05:48:34 | infamis | yeah hopefully with a full reinstall, this stuff should work...if it does, sorry I wasted your time.... |
| 05:48:56 | infamis | but I need to go...my friends keep calling & I keep lying, saying that I'm doing something for my mother...lol |
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| 06:30:55 | Drkepilogue | hey |
| 06:31:03 | Drkepilogue | does anyone know whos is working on the ipod port? |
| 06:31:48 | scorche | there are a lot of people working on the ipod port... |
| 06:32:13 | Drkepilogue | hmm, really? |
| 06:32:41 | Drkepilogue | cuz i only saw Dave Chapman name on the wiki, so i was kinda wondering... |
| 06:33:03 | scorche | well, what speciically idd you want? |
| 06:33:20 | Drkepilogue | idd?? |
| 06:33:24 | scorche | did |
| 06:34:07 | Drkepilogue | iono, i was kind hoping some one would know who is working on the battery life od the ipods |
| 06:34:39 | scorche | no one specifically atm...we still have yet to figure out what, specifically, is causing the problem |
| 06:34:46 | Drkepilogue | or, id someone is trying to figure out what is causing the 4G ipod to crash.. |
| 06:35:35 | Drkepilogue | according to the wiki, it is some hardware not shutting down when not in use, and code optimization |
| 06:36:27 | scorche | yes, but we do not know what specifically... |
| 06:36:44 | Drkepilogue | oo |
| 06:36:46 | scorche | and yes, codec optimization and code optimizatio is always there |
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| 06:41:39 | EV|Server | Anyone have screen shots of rockbox on a ipod? |
| 06:41:45 | EV|Server | Cant find any on the website.. |
| 06:42:03 | Drkepilogue | what kind of screenshot? |
| 06:42:10 | Drkepilogue | WPS, directory? |
| 06:42:14 | scorche | EV|Server: it isnt really that important as you can change it to be how you would like |
| 06:42:38 | EV|Server | Like the main screen I guess. |
| 06:42:44 | EV|Server | I'm just trying to see how it looks like and all |
| 06:43:13 | EV|Server | now I have to figure out how to back up my songs on my ipod to this linux machine... |
| 06:43:23 | scorche | well, as for the WPS (while playing screen), here is a link with a bunch of different versions that have been user-created |
| 06:43:25 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
| 06:43:43 | scorche | assuming you meant for the 5g... |
| 06:43:58 | EV|Server | I have the photo 30gb ipod.. |
| 06:44:13 | Drkepilogue | im getting a screen dump now... |
| 06:44:56 | scorche | EV|Server: then this is the one http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300 |
| 06:45:34 | EV|Server | This is gonna be sweet.. |
| 06:46:46 | EV|Server | Can I take this ipod photo I got here, install rockbox and play videos on it? |
| 06:47:17 | scorche | we do not yet fully support video, but it is being worked on |
| 06:47:45 | Drkepilogue | heres my main screen thingy |
| 06:47:47 | Drkepilogue | er |
| 06:47:50 | Drkepilogue | cant copy link |
| 06:47:56 | Drkepilogue | Drkepilogue/?action=view¤t=dump060901-214527.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1">http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/Drkepilogue/?action=view¤t=dump060901-214527.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1 |
| 06:48:05 | Drkepilogue | it is customizable.. |
| 06:48:09 | EV|Server | Drkepilogue/?action=view¤t=dump060901-214527.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1">http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c304/Drkepilogue/?action=view¤t=dump060901-214527.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch1 |
| 06:48:11 | EV|Server | err |
| 06:48:17 | EV|Server | there we go |
| 06:48:24 | Drkepilogue | there |
| 06:48:24 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 06:48:41 | EV|Server | So its basicly a theme generator for windows? |
| 06:48:47 | EV|Server | ipod* |
| 06:48:51 | Drkepilogue | O.o |
| 06:49:09 | Drkepilogue | i think you DL the themes... and it will show in yur ipod.. |
| 06:49:15 | EV|Server | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g |
| 06:49:23 | EV|Server | jclix themes is what I wanna use.. |
| 06:49:34 | scorche | EV|Server: as i said....i gave you the wrong link |
| 06:49:43 | EV|Server | oh |
| 06:49:43 | scorche | use the one after |
| 06:51:04 | EV|Server | Whoa sweet, you guys made a knight rider theme? Thats frickin cool |
| 06:51:18 | scorche | EV|Server: most of those are user-created actually |
| 06:51:50 | EV|Server | Can I change themes inside in the ipod without using a computer? |
| 06:52:07 | scorche | as long as they are already on the device, yes |
| 06:52:18 | EV|Server | sweet |
| 06:52:25 | Drkepilogue | and properlly stored in files... |
| 06:54:01 | EV|Server | Ok, lemme figure out how to get my files off of the ipod on to this machine, then can I get some help installing rockbox on it? |
| 06:54:12 | Drkepilogue | ipod util... |
| 06:54:17 | Drkepilogue | takes yur song from yur ipod |
| 06:54:22 | Drkepilogue | and into comp |
| 06:54:28 | Drkepilogue | but gets annoying tho |
| 06:54:29 | EV|Server | in linux? |
| 06:54:38 | Drkepilogue | evey 50 song, gotta push button... |
| 06:54:56 | EV|Server | Lol, I'll be doing that alot... |
| 06:55:00 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 06:55:01 | EV|Server | Being I have 4900+ songs on it right now |
| 06:55:08 | Drkepilogue | O.O |
| 06:55:13 | EV|Server | I really need a 100gb.. |
| 06:55:13 | Drkepilogue | uh.. |
| 06:55:28 | EV|Server | I got over 11000 on the server.. |
| 06:55:32 | Drkepilogue | isnt there a program called ipod agent? |
| 06:55:35 | Drkepilogue | that does it? |
| 06:55:40 | EV|Server | Im not sure.. |
| 06:55:57 | scorche | also, we are only here if you encounter a problem with installation....directions are here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 06:56:24 | scorche | errr....wait... |
| 06:56:34 | scorche | EV|Server: will you be installing this under linux? |
| 06:56:42 | EV|Server | yes |
| 06:56:59 | scorche | then use this link =) |
| 06:56:59 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux |
| 06:57:58 | EV|Server | ok hold on, lemme get my music off the ipod first |
| 06:58:43 | scorche | if your ipod is fat32 formatted already, there shouldnt be a danger to your files...but it is always good to back up =) |
| 06:59:03 | Drkepilogue | yeah, yur music should be safe |
| 06:59:20 | scorche | no need to repeat me =P |
| 06:59:24 | Drkepilogue | scorche, can u help me with tag cache |
| 06:59:40 | scorche | if i know what the problem is... |
| 06:59:45 | Drkepilogue | well iono |
| 06:59:48 | Drkepilogue | but it doesnt work |
| 06:59:55 | Drkepilogue | i have my muc in a folder |
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| 07:00:11 | Drkepilogue | and i got to the menu... yadi ya, and initilize tagcache |
| 07:00:24 | Drkepilogue | i hear the HD spin for no more than a min |
| 07:00:27 | Drkepilogue | and it stops... |
| 07:00:45 | scorche | are you using a recent build? |
| 07:00:46 | Drkepilogue | i reboot ipod, change to view by id3 tag, but it doesnt work |
| 07:01:22 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
| 07:01:27 | Drkepilogue | yesterdays build |
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| 07:02:21 | EV|Toshiba | I need to get the music on the linux machine anyways. :) |
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| 07:05:18 | scorche | Drkepilogue: delete your tagcache files and try again |
| 07:06:18 | Drkepilogue | ok... |
| 07:06:41 | Drkepilogue | do you think |
| 07:06:57 | Drkepilogue | me having my ipod frimware songs affect it too? |
| 07:07:02 | Drkepilogue | cuz i still use the itune DB |
| 07:07:09 | Drkepilogue | form when i reboot into apple Frimware |
| 07:07:49 | scorche | well, TagCache does have some issues with AAC/MP4 files, but try again |
| 07:08:36 | Drkepilogue | i did, it only commits 4 of 3... |
| 07:08:38 | Drkepilogue | oops |
| 07:08:41 | Drkepilogue | 4 of 13 |
| 07:08:48 | Drkepilogue | i dont think i have any AAc... |
| 07:08:51 | Drkepilogue | but iono... |
| 07:09:11 | scorche | you deleted all tagcache files except tagnavi.config and re-initialized? |
| 07:09:32 | Drkepilogue | yes |
| 07:10:12 | scorche | and you sure it is done? (the disk activity icon has stopped) |
| 07:10:26 | Drkepilogue | yes |
| 07:10:31 | Drkepilogue | the HD stoped whirling |
| 07:10:35 | EV|Toshiba | GTkpod is nice |
| 07:10:38 | Drkepilogue | only takes less than 2min for some reason |
| 07:10:51 | Drkepilogue | i dont think it is normal |
| 07:10:53 | EV|Toshiba | Taken it 72 seconds to load 2190 songs |
| 07:10:59 | EV|Toshiba | of 4981 |
| 07:11:05 | Drkepilogue | ooooo |
| 07:11:06 | Drkepilogue | well |
| 07:11:07 | Drkepilogue | maybe then |
| 07:11:28 | scorche | by "HD stopped whirling" do you mean that the disk activity *icon* has stopped? |
| 07:11:34 | Drkepilogue | yes |
| 07:11:42 | Drkepilogue | and i listent o the back of the ipod |
| 07:11:44 | Drkepilogue | and no sound too |
| 07:11:47 | EV|Toshiba | lol |
| 07:11:47 | Davide-NYC | If I have applied a patch already, then subsequently made changes, but now want to create a new patch with all my changes inclusive using cvs diff command |
| 07:12:18 | scorche | Drkepilogue: have you restarted your unit? |
| 07:12:27 | Drkepilogue | shut down, yes |
| 07:12:28 | Davide-NYC | cvs diff > blah.patch |
| 07:12:36 | Davide-NYC | will that do it? |
| 07:13:11 | Davide-NYC | cvs diff -R > blah.patch |
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| 07:13:51 | scorche | Drkepilogue: well, in most cases, when it fails, it is because of bad tags, embedded album art, or aac/mp4 files |
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| 07:14:50 | scorche | other than that, you are going to have to wait until someone else comes around that can help you further |
| 07:16:54 | Drkepilogue | hmm |
| 07:16:56 | Drkepilogue | ok |
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| 07:17:12 | Drkepilogue | hwo do i no if my music have embedded art? |
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| 07:41:35 | EV|Toshiba | Tomrrow I'll install rockbox on the ipod...im too tired to do it tonight. |
| 07:42:38 | billytwowilly | it's hella easy. |
| 07:42:43 | billytwowilly | took me 8 minutes |
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| 08:26:21 | Jazz00006 | hey, in plugin writing, how would i make something like the rename menu show (u know, the one with all of the letters, and characters) |
| 08:27:03 | midkay | check keyboard.h or plugin.h.. |
| 08:27:11 | midkay | i think it's like keyboard_show() or something. |
| 08:27:25 | Jazz00006 | cheers |
| 08:27:26 | midkay | or maybe char whatever = kbd_input();.. |
| 08:28:44 | Davide-NYC | I think some ofthe fonts included in the standard font pack should be chucked. One in particular makes no sense to me. |
| 08:28:59 | Davide-NYC | win_crox6hbo |
| 08:29:05 | midkay | why that one? |
| 08:29:17 | Davide-NYC | it's so big it doesn't fit onto itself |
| 08:29:18 | midkay | oh,is it like too large? cut off? |
| 08:29:22 | Davide-NYC | yes |
| 08:29:26 | midkay | yeah... that one.. could go. |
| 08:29:31 | Davide-NYC | must go |
| 08:29:33 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 08:29:42 | midkay | well it's been around for like a couple years so... |
| 08:29:42 | midkay | :) |
| 08:29:45 | midkay | no rush, apparently. |
| 08:30:09 | Davide-NYC | I am of the opinion that there are too many too similar fonts. |
| 08:30:28 | Davide-NYC | But that one just make RB look unprofessional. |
| 08:30:45 | Jazz00006 | you mean like, 6X13,6X13B ect |
| 08:30:45 | midkay | some could be weeded out, that's certainly my thought... but i guess the other hand is that it doesn't really matter, they don't take much space... |
| 08:31:00 | midkay | Jazz00006: those are completely different and i'd say worth having.. |
| 08:31:06 | Davide-NYC | true, but that crox6hbo is actually broken |
| 08:31:17 | midkay | Davide-NYC: well, that should be deleted, of course. |
| 08:31:26 | Davide-NYC | You have CVS access? |
| 08:31:29 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 08:31:30 | midkay | but as far as "too many similar ones", as long as they work they don't cause any harm... |
| 08:31:34 | midkay | haha. technically :) |
| 08:31:40 | Davide-NYC | chuck it! |
| 08:31:42 | scorche | he has wanna-be CVS access =) |
| 08:31:57 | Davide-NYC | scorche: do the honors? |
| 08:31:58 | midkay | haha. |
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| 08:32:08 | midkay | that requires resettingup VMware.. |
| 08:32:09 | midkay | :D |
| 08:32:27 | Davide-NYC | cd .. |
| 08:32:34 | Davide-NYC | crap wrong window haha |
| 08:32:43 | Jazz00006 | :) |
| 08:32:58 | midkay | haha. |
| 08:33:11 | Jazz00006 | rb->kbd_input(filename, sizeof filename); =/ so char = rb->kbd_input(filename, sizeof filename); would work? |
| 08:33:19 | scorche | cd ../ > cd .. |
| 08:33:59 | Davide-NYC | scorche: I mean that crox6hbo font is available on all targets. You should see what it looks like on the Recorder! |
| 08:34:14 | scorche | in that case, i will |
| 08:34:27 | * | scorche unplugs his recorder from the comp |
| 08:34:40 | midkay | Jazz00006: you can't say char =.. |
| 08:34:48 | Jazz00006 | bah, u know what i mean |
| 08:34:56 | midkay | just do the first one, rb->kbd whatever. |
| 08:35:18 | midkay | no, actually.. C requires you to be pretty specific.. one typo can mean something else entirely, let alone lacking a word/variable altogether :) |
| 08:35:49 | Jazz00006 | yeah, like php with case sensetivity =S |
| 08:36:03 | Jazz00006 | im still trying |
| 08:36:23 | scorche | hmmmm... |
| 08:36:35 | scorche | seems like i do not have that font installed |
| 08:36:58 | Davide-NYC | win_crox6hbo |
| 08:37:19 | Davide-NYC | second to last on the list? |
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| 08:37:36 | Davide-NYC | penultimate? |
| 08:38:07 | scorche | oh wow... |
| 08:38:12 | scorche | needs to be removed indeed |
| 08:38:17 | Jazz00006 | how do u declare a string? |
| 08:38:29 | Jazz00006 | if possible |
| 08:39:02 | Davide-NYC | that font was broke even in the Gigabeat sim! |
| 08:39:15 | scorche | that was pretty bad... |
| 08:39:16 | Davide-NYC | *broken |
| 08:39:20 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 08:39:41 | amiconn | m0rning |
| 08:39:59 | Davide-NYC | say, if I wanted to make a patch that excluded certain fonts, what would I modify? |
| 08:40:04 | Davide-NYC | morning! |
| 08:40:53 | scorche | the fonts are a separate package... |
| 08:41:06 | Davide-NYC | if I put a linst of the font-files in fonts/FILES and comment out the ones I don't want? |
| 08:41:18 | Davide-NYC | I'm doing a make fullzip\ |
| 08:41:24 | scorche | ah |
| 08:41:27 | Davide-NYC | (generally) |
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| 08:42:05 | Davide-NYC | so I assumed that I would just explicitely list the fontfiles in FILES, but that didn;t work |
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| 08:44:15 | dpassen | amiconn: You have an H1x0 series player, right? |
| 08:44:32 | amiconn | yes |
| 08:44:56 | * | Davide-NYC H1x0 user lifts an eyebrow |
| 08:45:01 | dpassen | Do you know if the button changes made it so when shutting down the player, music doesn't stop immediately? |
| 08:45:17 | amiconn | Yes it did |
| 08:45:25 | amiconn | Some people prefer it that way |
| 08:45:31 | dpassen | Oh |
| 08:45:34 | amiconn | I'd rather have it stop immediately |
| 08:45:36 | dpassen | Me too |
| 08:45:44 | * | Davide-NYC three |
| 08:45:56 | * | Jazz00006 forth |
| 08:46:13 | amiconn | The reasoning is that if it doesn't stop immediately, you can shut down the player without looking at it |
| 08:46:28 | amiconn | Just hold stop until the music stops |
| 08:47:42 | dpassen | I suppose, it seems too minor to have a setting. |
| 08:48:24 | Davide-NYC | amiconn: I want to reduce the number of fonts installed on a make fullzip. What is the easiest approach. I will include it in my NoMoreFun.patch patch. |
| 08:48:27 | amiconn | The behaviour changed back and forth several times. First it stopped immediately. Then Slasheri made it behave like it does now. Then I changed it back to stopping immediately with some cleanup I don't remember exactly right now. The last change was then introduced with actions |
| 08:49:22 | Davide-NYC | any idea? |
| 08:49:27 | amiconn | no |
| 08:49:41 | amiconn | Why do you want that? |
| 08:49:45 | dpassen | Yes, I feel I just got used to the immediate stop. |
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| 08:50:20 | Davide-NYC | I've made myself a "no fun" patch. It removes games, WPSes (almost all) and now fonts |
| 08:50:35 | Davide-NYC | I just want RB to compile fast fast |
| 08:50:56 | amiconn | fonts are irrelevant for compilatioon |
| 08:51:10 | amiconn | (except exactly one - the sysfont) |
| 08:51:27 | Davide-NYC | shoot well nevermind then! Thanks! |
| 08:51:31 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 08:51:36 | amiconn | They only increase 'make fullzip' time, but who uses 'make fullzip' regularly? |
| 08:51:54 | Davide-NYC | the difference is only the fonts? |
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| 08:52:10 | amiconn | I always just use 'make zip', after having installed a full zip months ago |
| 08:52:43 | Davide-NYC | when making a reductive patch overwriting is not always possible. |
| 08:52:59 | Davide-NYC | I sometimes have to delete the RB dir and reinstall |
| 08:53:09 | amiconn | I never delete the .rockbox dir |
| 08:53:40 | Davide-NYC | for me it's easier than actually thinking about what I've removed and going in and doing it by hand |
| 08:53:51 | amiconn | But then I rather want my rockbox to be complete, if only for checking bug reports |
| 08:53:53 | Davide-NYC | I just delete and inflate |
| 08:54:07 | Davide-NYC | right |
| 08:54:14 | amiconn | I don't care about some compilation time |
| 08:54:38 | scorche | Davide-NYC: werent you looking for amiconn earlier about eclipse? |
| 08:54:47 | amiconn | If I'd do, I wouldn't use cygwin as my main compilation environment (I also have vmware installed) |
| 08:55:19 | Davide-NYC | Oh snap! I forgot. ;-/ |
| 08:55:24 | scorche | =) |
| 08:55:30 | amiconn | But I prefer my convenient editor on windows over the somewhat faster compilation |
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| 08:56:07 | Davide-NYC | amiconn: check out this post please: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6250.0 |
| 08:56:16 | scorche | amiconn: how can you not use that with vmware? |
| 08:56:20 | amiconn | And while that editor even works under wine, using it like that is cumbersome. Gnome doesn't show it in the taskbar when it's running... |
| 08:57:07 | scorche | amiconn: why cant you just work with it through samba? |
| 08:57:22 | Davide-NYC | man, it's 3am |
| 08:57:26 | Davide-NYC | (my time) |
| 08:57:33 | Davide-NYC | I gotta stop this maddness |
| 08:58:00 | amiconn | I have no idea what could be a good ide |
| 08:58:30 | Davide-NYC | are you familiar with eclipse? |
| 08:58:35 | amiconn | nope |
| 08:58:55 | amiconn | I do know visual basic and visual c++ IDEs. I wouldn't like to use them for projects like rockbox |
| 08:59:03 | Davide-NYC | ah, you cannot help me then. But I think you sould check it out. www.eclipse.org |
| 08:59:16 | Davide-NYC | why not? |
| 08:59:46 | scorche | oh wait...sorry...that was infamis that was looking for amiconn... |
| 08:59:53 | amiconn | I just use an editor (with syntax highligting, multiple files, integrated browser, and changed file recognition), and the commandline for building |
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| 09:00:14 | * | scorche lubs source insight |
| 09:00:21 | Davide-NYC | that's what I just started doing with eclipce and cygwin |
| 09:01:01 | Davide-NYC | I'm trying to stay multi-platform open source in my never ending quest to transition to linux |
| 09:01:13 | amiconn | Hmm, very probably I will stay away from eclipse as far as possible |
| 09:01:15 | billytwowilly | it's really easy to transition to linux;) |
| 09:01:22 | billytwowilly | request free ubuntu cd in the mail |
| 09:01:25 | amiconn | billytwowilly: hahahaha |
| 09:01:26 | billytwowilly | wait 2 weeks |
| 09:01:27 | scorche | i wish i could transition... |
| 09:01:36 | Davide-NYC | I have needs |
| 09:01:37 | billytwowilly | install in 20 minutes |
| 09:01:42 | billytwowilly | ewe. |
| 09:01:46 | billytwowilly | fez is not allowed to use linux |
| 09:01:50 | billytwowilly | he'll get the keyboard sticky |
| 09:02:01 | scorche | ... |
| 09:02:16 | billytwowilly | "I have needs" |
| 09:02:20 | amiconn | Installing linux isn't that hard. And I wouldn't even order a CD, installing from web is faster |
| 09:02:21 | * | Davide-NYC hope this doesn't degenerate... |
| 09:02:26 | billytwowilly | that's fez's catch phrase from "that 70's show" |
| 09:02:34 | scorche | thats...nice.. |
| 09:02:51 | billytwowilly | guys... you have not been indoctrinated into popular culture enough;) |
| 09:02:55 | amiconn | But what apps to use under linux is the big main question |
| 09:03:05 | Davide-NYC | I'm close |
| 09:03:10 | scorche | i have seen and laughed at "that 70's show" many times...but still.. |
| 09:03:10 | billytwowilly | what do you need still? |
| 09:03:14 | Davide-NYC | maybe 90% OSS cross-platform |
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| 09:03:30 | billytwowilly | amarok is awesome for music. |
| 09:03:38 | billytwowilly | openoffice is ok for office documents |
| 09:03:41 | Davide-NYC | digidesign pro-tools |
| 09:03:42 | billytwowilly | ... |
| 09:03:46 | billytwowilly | azureus runs on linux.. |
| 09:03:52 | billytwowilly | kaffeine plays video files... |
| 09:04:01 | scorche | ew....hate azureus... |
| 09:04:02 | billytwowilly | konversation or xchat for irc.. |
| 09:04:12 | Davide-NYC | sync my treo650? |
| 09:04:19 | amiconn | konversation is KDE, xchat works, but is ugly |
| 09:04:22 | billytwowilly | treo? that palm? |
| 09:04:31 | scorche | there are OSS for the treo (i have one) |
| 09:04:32 | Davide-NYC | yes and yes but could be no |
| 09:04:34 | * | billytwowilly runs KDe |
| 09:04:50 | scorche | and ew for kde too... |
| 09:04:53 | Davide-NYC | scorche: you sync your PIM from a treo to what under linux? |
| 09:05:06 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:05:19 | Davide-NYC | insert the word data between PIM and from |
| 09:05:24 | amiconn | Some say KDE tries to (somewhat) replicate the look & feel of windows, but I strongly disagree on that |
| 09:05:40 | billytwowilly | yah, it totally doesn't. kde is great. |
| 09:05:45 | scorche | havent done it recently, but i know there are decent solutions...i will look it up again and get back to you |
| 09:05:59 | amiconn | KDE is way too cluttered right after installation to be intuitive, imho |
| 09:06:10 | amiconn | If I have to use linux, I prefer gnome |
| 09:06:10 | billytwowilly | not in ubuntu. |
| 09:06:22 | billytwowilly | in ubuntu they trim a whole bunch of stuff, which can be irritating. |
| 09:06:23 | * | scorche is more of a fluxbox/xfce person |
| 09:06:29 | billytwowilly | but it makes a very usuable interface |
| 09:06:36 | billytwowilly | yah.. fluxbox drives me nuts... too minimalist |
| 09:06:48 | amiconn | I tried to install ubuntu once, on my desktop. The installer crashed while booting... |
| 09:06:51 | Galois | google says http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8185 for treo 650 |
| 09:07:05 | Galois | I just installed ubuntu today, no problems |
| 09:07:12 | amiconn | Now I'm running debain on this box for quite a while |
| 09:07:17 | amiconn | *debian |
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| 09:07:38 | amiconn | It's part of the distributed build system... |
| 09:07:59 | amiconn | I have to add that it is an amd64 box, running debian-amd64 of course |
| 09:08:32 | Davide-NYC | This is what I mean, I don't mind compiling something if it's for a particular reason, but my PIM should just work. It's one of the most popular high end phones in america. |
| 09:08:58 | Davide-NYC | Plus I'm not talking Bluetooth, I just want to plug the damn thing into USB. |
| 09:09:07 | Davide-NYC | Nobody has it working as far as I know |
| 09:09:13 | Galois | if worst comes to worst, everything works in vmware except 3d graphics |
| 09:09:13 | Davide-NYC | (wierd) |
| 09:09:42 | scorche | it is a nice phone =)....there are other features i would like it to have that other phones have, but i cant complain when it was free =D |
| 09:09:43 | Davide-NYC | totally unacceptable. |
| 09:10:00 | Galois | putting windows in the vmware sandbox is a lot better than letting it run loose |
| 09:10:17 | Davide-NYC | I have to sync my phone through a virtual machine? That's just crazy to me. |
| 09:10:29 | Davide-NYC | Sorry |
| 09:10:40 | Galois | honestly, I think not using a virtual machine is crazy |
| 09:10:43 | Davide-NYC | Hey, if you write it and I can sync it to eviolution, I'll bite! |
| 09:10:52 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 09:11:03 | Galois | macos time machine is moving in the direction of a virtual machine and people love it |
| 09:11:31 | Davide-NYC | I heard parallels has zero performance hit... as if running native |
| 09:11:39 | amiconn | What I am missing most in linux is a remote desktop feature comparable to rdp |
| 09:11:53 | scorche | <scorche`> Syncing over USB |
| 09:11:53 | scorche | <scorche`> This isn't quite working. While udev creates the /dev/tty/USB1 device as well as a /dev/pilot link to it when you push the HotSync button, pilot-xfer doesn't seem to connect to it. |
| 09:11:53 | scorche | <scorche`> I had read that one person could get it to connect if you started pilot-xfer about two seconds after you pushed the HotSync button. Indeed, I had that experience as well about 25% of the time. This is very unreliable, and doesn't work at all with gpilotd. |
| 09:11:57 | Davide-NYC | that's funny cause I use UltraVNC |
| 09:12:05 | amiconn | I know there is nx/freenx, but I couldn't find any debian packages for freenx/amd64 |
| 09:12:32 | Davide-NYC | OK need to sleep. Good night all |
| 09:12:33 | amiconn | VNC isn't comparable to rdp. It's significantly slower |
| 09:12:39 | Davide-NYC | Rockbox rules, |
| 09:12:42 | Galois | virtual memory has a performance penalty as well, yet people use it |
| 09:12:50 | amiconn | (but still faster than many other, even commertial remote apps) |
| 09:12:51 | Davide-NYC | later |
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| 09:13:32 | Galois | windows has a better rdp and unix has a better ssh. I use the ssh more. |
| 09:13:57 | Galois | rdp isn't perfect either, it lacks trivialities like font antialiasing, at least until longhorn server comes out |
| 09:17:27 | amiconn | I do use ssh - sometimes |
| 09:17:51 | amiconn | I prefer a graphical environment, even for working with a shell |
| 09:18:01 | amiconn | Maybe I'm spoiled by using AmigaOS for so long |
| 09:18:13 | scorche | ssh has x forwarding... |
| 09:18:35 | amiconn | scorche: You can't honestly recommend that for remote... |
| 09:18:40 | * | billytwowilly hearts ssh x forwarding |
| 09:18:42 | amiconn | X forwarding is slooow in a LAN |
| 09:19:01 | amiconn | I'm talking about using even a modem or isdn connection |
| 09:19:22 | scorche | people still use isdn? =P |
| 09:19:30 | amiconn | Plus, it's not really a remote desktop. |
| 09:19:48 | amiconn | If you disconnect, the apps quit |
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| 09:20:05 | amiconn | scorche: Sometimes there is no other option |
| 09:20:15 | axxsa | omfg... www.groomgle.com just released a public gmail hack, lets you easily manipulate you're google page rank... who should i contact??? |
| 09:20:16 | amiconn | s/Sometimes/in some places/ |
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| 09:31:38 | Siimors | can somebody explain how to check out whether I have 64mb ram patch for ipod 5g applied? |
| 09:33:40 | billytwowilly | I don't think you can... |
| 09:33:48 | billytwowilly | looking at the rockbox page on the patch anyway... |
| 09:34:00 | billytwowilly | you would have selected the option in the build.... |
| 09:34:27 | billytwowilly | oh dude. |
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| 09:34:31 | billytwowilly | 4th comment |
| 09:34:40 | Siimors | ? |
| 09:34:49 | billytwowilly | Siimors: look in Menu|Info|Rockbox |
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| 09:35:01 | billytwowilly | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5472 |
| 09:35:45 | Siimors | billytwowilly: but I can't compile things on my computer |
| 09:35:54 | Siimors | can I get a compiled version ? |
| 09:36:09 | billytwowilly | it doesn't look like it. |
| 09:36:22 | billytwowilly | I don't have an ipod 5g. |
| 09:36:41 | billytwowilly | I am just using the search box available to you on the left side of the page at rockbox.org |
| 09:37:10 | Siimors | yeah I read the link you gave me |
| 09:37:13 | Siimors | there is a file |
| 09:37:18 | Siimors | and it looks like source |
| 09:37:23 | billytwowilly | it is. |
| 09:37:24 | leftright | amiconn: with reference to the lag in stop, I also dislike the delay in stop, I prefer the immediate stop action. The delayed action drove me crazy recently as I thought the unit wasn't responding to my button presses whilst it was on my belt |
| 09:37:45 | billytwowilly | in the comments though. it tells you where to look to see how much memory is available. |
| 09:38:13 | Siimors | billytwowilly: yeah, it says 29.301 mb free |
| 09:38:33 | billytwowilly | then you don't. |
| 09:38:42 | billytwowilly | if you haven't compiled it yourself you don't for sure. |
| 09:38:47 | billytwowilly | according to my searches.. |
| 09:38:51 | Siimors | no I haven't |
| 09:39:00 | Siimors | can somebody compile it for me |
| 09:39:02 | Siimors | PLEASE :( |
| 09:39:30 | billytwowilly | why? |
| 09:39:36 | billytwowilly | what do you need the extra ram for? |
| 09:39:41 | Siimors | i want 64mb version |
| 09:39:43 | billytwowilly | It probably isn't needed |
| 09:39:47 | Siimors | for battery life of course |
| 09:40:05 | billytwowilly | the battery life on rockbox on ipod isn't all that good anywya I think... |
| 09:40:11 | billytwowilly | use that search box to look into it. |
| 09:40:33 | Siimors | well it should be better if it can store 2x as much in ram |
| 09:40:56 | * | midkay stabs billytwowilly in the face. rapidly. with a rather large cleaver. |
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| 09:43:55 | Slasheri | hmm, i just cleaned up thread.c, removed all those different static declarations for different variables and put those in cores[NUM_CORES] struct and inside that threads[NUM_THREADS] |
| 09:45:29 | billytwowilly | midkay: so what was that random act of violence about? |
| 09:47:36 | midkay | billytwowilly: it was "about" your spreading inaccuracies and being pretty useless. why would rockbox's battery life affect the usefulness of the iPod's amount of RAM? |
| 09:48:09 | billytwowilly | I didn't say it would. |
| 09:48:28 | midkay | you said "it's bad anyways"... |
| 09:48:31 | midkay | how does that help at all? |
| 09:48:38 | billytwowilly | I said I thought the battery life on the ipod was lower than with the original firmware and then told Siimors to look it up |
| 09:48:39 | midkay | how is that even worth mentioning? |
| 09:48:57 | midkay | why should he need to look it up? it makes no difference, he just requiested a 64MB build. |
| 09:49:06 | billytwowilly | because Siimors said he wanted the extra ram to increase battery life. |
| 09:49:13 | midkay | and it would. why wouldn't it? |
| 09:49:20 | billytwowilly | I didn't say it wouldn't. |
| 09:49:22 | midkay | it'd be better than before, but who cares how that is in comparison to OF? |
| 09:49:27 | midkay | he's choosing to use rockbox. |
| 09:49:30 | billytwowilly | I just didn't think it would be that big a deal. |
| 09:49:34 | midkay | it would. |
| 09:49:40 | midkay | 2x the ram is actually quite a difference. |
| 09:49:41 | billytwowilly | because OF is what your project is measured against. |
| 09:49:53 | billytwowilly | yah, I told him to look it up because I didn't know. |
| 09:49:59 | midkay | he didn't ask for comparisons against the OF... nor measurements about our battery life.. |
| 09:50:12 | midkay | the point is that it doesn't matter and neither one of you needs to know unless he wants to. |
| 09:50:41 | billytwowilly | so you're saying it's not important for people to know their battery life will be much less with rockbox than with OF? |
| 09:50:52 | billytwowilly | that's a pretty big deal. |
| 09:51:04 | midkay | for once more, he didn't ask about how rockbox fares compared to OF. he asked for a 64MB build. |
| 09:51:11 | scorche | Siimors: ignoring billytwowilly, if you switch/skip songs a lot, it will not be better for your battery life....if you listen to flacs or songs for a while, then it will be much better |
| 09:51:35 | scorche | errr....minus the skipping part |
| 09:51:57 | billytwowilly | yah, and I didn't say I knew anything at all I said I searched the site like he could. jesus. Grow up and stop being so hostile. |
| 09:52:13 | * | billytwowilly makes a note to never try and help anyone again |
| 09:52:27 | scorche | billytwowilly: we just dont appreciate false information =) |
| 09:52:36 | midkay | that's like someone asking for "how do i download rockbox" and you saying "well you could just not install it, but you might want to install it anyways.. search the site if you want to find out how to install it." |
| 09:53:24 | billytwowilly | no, it's like someone saying "how do I do X?" where X is something listed on the site. and I search the site and point the person to help on the webpage. |
| 09:53:51 | billytwowilly | which is what happened. |
| 09:54:05 | billytwowilly | then discussing the merits of said X. |
| 09:54:07 | billytwowilly | which also happened. |
| 09:54:26 | Siimors | scorche: i'm not skipping at all |
| 09:54:27 | midkay | haha. i don't see at all how "can someone get me A" and a response saying "you might not want to do that because of Z, i don't know anything about it but you can search if you want to know about it".. |
| 09:54:29 | Siimors | and listening flacs |
| 09:55:14 | scorche | Siimors: you were a bit unclear there...mind rephrasing? |
| 09:55:18 | billytwowilly | I didn't say yo umight not want to do it. I said I thought the battery life wasn't all that good anyway so if you can't compile it yourself you may not want to worry about it. I also stated I wasn't sure, so search the site to confirm. |
| 09:55:45 | Siimors | scorche: I'm not skipping songs |
| 09:55:51 | Siimors | I just listen to albums from start to finish |
| 09:56:08 | scorche | ok...then the 64 version will do you a lot of good =) |
| 09:56:18 | Siimors | I already found a complied version |
| 09:56:26 | Siimors | it shows 60.xxx mb free in info |
| 09:56:30 | billytwowilly | by searching the site right? |
| 09:56:30 | Siimors | but there is a problem |
| 09:56:33 | * | billytwowilly rests his case |
| 09:56:50 | Siimors | which is not present on original apple firmware |
| 09:57:06 | Siimors | I hear a more or less rhytmic ticking in right channel |
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| 09:57:18 | Siimors | doesn't matter if I listen to music or just browsing |
| 09:57:25 | * | scorche is used as a proxy by midkay to stab billytwowilly thricely |
| 09:57:35 | Siimors | same if plugged in usb or running on batteries |
| 09:58:47 | scorche | Siimors: hmmm..i have not heard the "ticking" issue before for ipods....for x5s and H300s, but not for ipods... |
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| 09:59:12 | Siimors | sorry, its there |
| 09:59:14 | Siimors | its rhytmic |
| 09:59:44 | aliask | What format file? |
| 09:59:48 | Siimors | and if you listen to loud music with a lot of base |
| 09:59:53 | Siimors | its not audible |
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| 10:00:03 | Siimors | but if you stop |
| 10:00:06 | Siimors | you can hear it |
| 10:00:17 | aliask | Ah, disregard my question :) |
| 10:00:18 | Siimors | also if you listen to some piano music its in the background |
| 10:00:34 | Siimors | aliask: doesn't matter, coz its present even when nothings playing |
| 10:02:02 | Siimors | scorche: any ideas? |
| 10:02:17 | scorche | none, but i am not the person to talk to about that =) |
| 10:02:53 | scorche | i am not as familiar with the ipod ports as i am with other ports |
| 10:03:09 | Siimors | if other ports had this issue, was it solved? |
| 10:04:23 | scorche | the x5 ticking was announced not too long ago....too short for there to be any fix as of yet...there was also the issue of ticking with the irivers and remotes, but i believe that was solved |
| 10:04:51 | Siimors | ok thx |
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| 10:23:33 | Siimors | scorche: should i report this ipod issue somewhere? |
| 10:30:51 | Slasheri | hmm, i think threading performance can be increased by defining to linked lists: running and sleeping and handling sleep tick timer by threading, so we can prevent unnecessary context switches |
| 10:31:00 | Slasheri | +w |
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| 11:08:13 | JdGordon | its not moo time in sweden yet is it? |
| 11:09:46 | crwl | depends on your definition of "moo" |
| 11:10:12 | crwl | it's 11:10 (AM) there |
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| 11:20:26 | linuxstb_ | Siimors: One person has reported clicking from his ipod before. Do you have very sensitive headphones? |
| 11:21:18 | Siimors | I'm using Sennheiser HD497 32ohm |
| 11:22:06 | Siimors | they're pretty cheap |
| 11:22:13 | Siimors | low-end |
| 11:22:50 | linuxstb_ | See this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3179.0 |
| 11:23:50 | Siimors | linuxstb_: not really the problem I have |
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| 11:24:01 | Siimors | the constant clicking is even when Im not touching the wheel |
| 11:24:04 | Siimors | or doing anything |
| 11:25:06 | linuxstb_ | The poster is reporting both a constant tick, and noise when he's using the wheel. |
| 11:25:42 | Siimors | ok, so its the same problem:) |
| 11:25:43 | Siimors | sorry |
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| 11:39:22 | Siimors | linuxstb: so basicaly - no solution? |
| 11:39:29 | Siimors | for now at least |
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| 12:21:58 | * | dan_a manages to reduce compile time on his server for an H120 build from 300s to 28s |
| 12:25:01 | Bagder | whoa |
| 12:25:16 | ender` | dan_a: ccache? |
| 12:25:41 | dan_a | No, that was enabled. I killed off the 2 processes which were eating CPU, which took the build time down to 150s |
| 12:25:56 | daurnimator | hey all |
| 12:26:05 | daurnimator | Bagder: read anything lately? ;) |
| 12:26:10 | ender` | oh, haha |
| 12:26:19 | dan_a | Then I put the Rockbox source on a tmpfs partition, which brought it down to 28s |
| 12:26:37 | Bagder | daurnimator: nope and I don't expect to do it anytime soon |
| 12:26:44 | daurnimator | ok |
| 12:27:01 | dan_a | So I'm just going through the steps to let my server be a member of the build farm |
| 12:27:29 | Bagder | nice |
| 12:28:24 | dan_a | And anyone else running Linux - it's a good idea to have /home/rbclient on a tmpfs partition! |
| 12:28:43 | * | scorche dreams of a rockbox building cluster |
| 12:28:59 | Bagder | well, we do have a kind of that |
| 12:29:22 | scorche | they should dedicate Blue Gene to building rockbox |
| 12:29:34 | scorche | *click* *done* |
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| 12:30:11 | Bagder | blue gene is "only" N number of POWER CPUs |
| 12:30:26 | scorche | yes....we could do better |
| 12:30:35 | Bagder | yes |
| 12:30:43 | Bagder | and I mean it |
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| 12:31:06 | Bagder | but it would take a few more volunteers first ;-) |
| 12:31:06 | * | scorche looks up current rankings |
| 12:31:16 | scorche | with large pockets ;) |
| 12:31:21 | Bagder | eh? |
| 12:31:28 | Bagder | a single POWER is not _that_ powerful |
| 12:32:35 | Bagder | for its clock it is, but they've been left behind in the clocking race |
| 12:33:46 | scorche | hmmm... |
| 12:34:29 | * | Bagder worked at IBM with POWER-equipped boxes back in the early 90s |
| 12:34:41 | scorche | lets go with TSUBAME...just because they are the only ones on the top 10 with opterons =) |
| 12:34:54 | * | scorche needs to get a decent job... |
| 12:35:26 | scorche | and if i say that enough, one will fall into my lap |
| 12:38:36 | dan_a | Bagder: Could you email me the rbclient public key? |
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| 12:38:48 | Bagder | dan_a: certainly, hang on |
| 12:47:01 | dan_a | Bagder: Thank you. Where do I find the acbuild.pl script? |
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| 12:47:18 | fah | does rockbox do video at all yet? |
| 12:47:26 | Bagder | I can copy it to you if you have the rbclient public key in place |
| 12:47:32 | Bagder | it'll also verify that it works |
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| 12:47:39 | Bagder | fah: yes, somewhat |
| 12:51:19 | dan_a | Bagder: OK, that should be set up now at www.weirdo.org.uk |
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| 12:55:32 | dan_a | It showed in the logs as an authentication failure - I'll have a poke about and see what's wrong |
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| 12:58:58 | daurn|afk | arg |
| 12:58:59 | daurn|afk | wtf |
| 12:59:04 | daurn|afk | my computer keeps crashing |
| 12:59:07 | daurn|afk | more than windows |
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| 13:12:24 | * | Siimors switches back to original apple firmware |
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| 13:35:25 | webguest71 | hello |
| 13:35:39 | webguest71 | is it possible to record in the mp3 format with the iriver h3x0? |
| 13:39:19 | Febs | Yes. |
| 13:40:18 | webguest71 | im running rockbox on my iriver but he only records .wav files |
| 13:40:19 | * | Febs goes to check to see if that patch is in CVS. |
| 13:40:31 | Siimors | bastard |
| 13:40:31 | lex | he :> |
| 13:40:47 | Siimors | your iriver is an asshole |
| 13:41:02 | lex | i wonder what does my ipod record |
| 13:41:04 | Febs | webguest71, what build are you using? |
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| 13:41:16 | Jason | Hi all |
| 13:41:24 | Siimors | lex: u adress your ipod as "he" |
| 13:41:25 | Siimors | ? |
| 13:41:42 | lex | Siimors: nope :) |
| 13:41:47 | lex | it's just it |
| 13:42:01 | Jason | is there a way how to turn volume on h20 up? |
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| 13:42:53 | Siimors | lex: why are you so sure about that? |
| 13:43:08 | Siimors | maybe your ipod has his own agenda but you don't know about it yet |
| 13:43:15 | Siimors | speak to him |
| 13:43:48 | lex | hmm |
| 13:43:52 | Febs | webguest71, try a daily build from August 29 or later. |
| 13:43:59 | daurn|afk | YAY |
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| 13:44:08 | daurn|afk | i just spent 4 hours configing my tv card |
| 13:44:11 | daurn|afk | its working now!!! |
| 13:44:18 | lex | Siimors: what should i say to "him"? |
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| 13:44:46 | Jason | [13:43:41] <Febs> webguest71, try a daily build from August 29 or later. <−−- this one was for me? |
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| 13:45:08 | Jason | oh |
| 13:45:37 | Siimors | say, iPod, sing Daisy Bell |
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| 13:46:38 | Siimors | lex: and be careful if it starts to reffer to himself as HAL9000 |
| 13:47:15 | Siimors | no matter what, don't play that rockbox chess game, after that he goes crazy |
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| 13:48:06 | lex | Siimors: 8o |
| 13:48:54 | Siimors | I heard theres a voice annotation feature in rockbox |
| 13:49:03 | Siimors | someone should create Hal9000 voice like comments |
| 13:49:19 | Siimors | like when youre shutting down, it says: Just what do you think youre doing, Dave |
| 13:49:49 | lex | :) |
| 13:52:46 | Jason | Siimors: good idea |
| 13:53:05 | Siimors | Jason:) |
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| 13:54:37 | dan_a | Bagder: It was a permissions problem - should be OK now |
| 13:56:16 | Siimors | damn, someone should create HAL9000 theme |
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| 14:00:13 | Bagder | dan_a: yeps, works now |
| 14:00:39 | apo | Hm... When I play songs on my iPod, they often change to other songs during the playback, but the display still says, that it's the same song - sometimes it switches back to the first song. I assume this is due to fragmentation... Does anybody have the same problem? |
| 14:02:41 | pixelma | tucoz, hope you read the logs... I updated the rest of the drawings so that they show the logo and are equally detailed. You can find them at the usual place .../Player_logo.svg .../Recorder_logo.svg .../FmRecorder_logo.svg .../H100_logo.svg |
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| 14:06:23 | lex | hmm, can i record sound on my ipod photo? |
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| 14:27:39 | Bagder | dan_a: you have an acbuild.pl there now you should edit |
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| 14:27:46 | Bagder | bbl |
| 14:27:52 | dan_a | I'm just playing now. |
| 14:28:13 | dan_a | Trying to find out why I get "creating a DT_TEXTREL in object" warnings on sim builds |
| 14:28:26 | Bagder | weird |
| 14:28:27 | dan_a | Then I think I can volunteer my server |
| 14:28:38 | dan_a | Others have had it - especially on Gentoo |
| 14:28:48 | Bagder | you have all three crosscompilers? |
| 14:29:31 | dan_a | Yes, but my sh one doesn't have the patch applied (I think it was SH that needed a patch to GCC) |
| 14:29:46 | Bagder | yes, sh needs it |
| 14:30:24 | dan_a | So 2 of the 3 at the moment... I'll hopefully get the third set up today |
| 14:30:26 | Bagder | I'm adding you for m68k and arm for now then |
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| 14:30:42 | dan_a | Cool |
| 14:30:43 | BockBilbo | hello |
| 14:30:52 | dan_a | Hi BockBilbo |
| 14:30:55 | Bagder | dan_a: so let me know if you get sdl and sh up and I'll add them |
| 14:31:08 | dan_a | Bagder: Will do |
| 14:31:12 | BockBilbo | is there any place on the net where i could find the apple_os.bin fw file for the nano? |
| 14:31:31 | * | Bagder runs off |
| 14:31:57 | BockBilbo | Im going to replace the rockbox loader for the loader2, so if i have that i guess i could replace it without having to format the whole ipod |
| 14:32:03 | dan_a | BockBilbo: Only by extracting it from the official firmware - it is illegal for anyone other than Apple to distribute it |
| 14:32:19 | BockBilbo | :/ |
| 14:32:32 | BockBilbo | and is it illegal to send it via dcc?? |
| 14:32:33 | BockBilbo | 8-) |
| 14:32:43 | linuxstb | BockBilbo: What OS are you using? |
| 14:33:00 | BockBilbo | ubuntu |
| 14:33:17 | linuxstb | Then you should have kept a backup.... |
| 14:33:29 | BockBilbo | 8-) the problem is that it isnt my nano |
| 14:33:37 | BockBilbo | i have a backup of my 60gigs ipod |
| 14:33:53 | BockBilbo | will that backup work on the nano? |
| 14:34:00 | linuxstb | No. |
| 14:34:09 | BockBilbo | thats what i though |
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| 14:37:15 | linuxstb | dan_a: I'm about to start looking at the COP again - do you have an updated patch, or should I keep using the same as before? I saw some changes to thread.c in CVS this morning... |
| 14:38:39 | BockBilbo | linuxstb, anyway, why did u ask me about my OS and then conclude that i shoud have kept a backup? |
| 14:38:44 | dan_a | linuxstb: I've not updated it yet, and it won't apply without some work since the crt0 changes I made - I can't remember if my patch touches thread.c though |
| 14:39:15 | linuxstb | BockBilbo: Because on Windows and Mac OS you can extract the firmware from the Apple update utility. |
| 14:39:30 | linuxstb | dan_a: OK, I won't "cvs update" then... |
| 14:40:13 | BockBilbo | ohh |
| 14:40:17 | BockBilbo | i have win installed |
| 14:40:45 | BockBilbo | i could reboot, how do i do to extract the firmware from the update utility? |
| 14:40:49 | linuxstb | BockBilbo: Also, don't install the very latest Nano firmware from Apple - it doesn't work if you have either the Rockbox or ipodlinux bootloader installed. |
| 14:40:57 | linuxstb | I think 1.1.2 is the latest - so look for 1.1.1 |
| 14:41:27 | BockBilbo | mmi have the 1.1.2 installed on my 60gb ipod and rockbox works fine |
| 14:41:31 | linuxstb | BockBilbo: You can use ipodwizard to extract it from the apple update .exe |
| 14:41:39 | linuxstb | BockBilbo: It's a Nano-only issue afaik. |
| 14:41:43 | BockBilbo | ok |
| 14:41:55 | BockBilbo | is there any place to find the 1.1.1 binary? |
| 14:42:04 | linuxstb | I've no idea, sorry. |
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| 14:42:40 | BockBilbo | ok |
| 14:42:41 | BockBilbo | thanks |
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| 14:46:29 | BockBilbo | thanks a lot linuxstb |
| 14:46:32 | BockBilbo | im going to reboot now |
| 14:46:36 | BockBilbo | bye! |
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| 14:47:34 | dan_a | linuxstb: I'm just updating the patch now to work with the latest CVS - hopefully I can do that before my girlfriend arrives and demands my attention! |
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| 14:55:47 | linuxstb | dan_a: OK, I've been distracted with my Elio and a screwdriver... |
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| 14:59:45 | robin24 | Hi! |
| 14:59:56 | markun | hi robin24 |
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| 15:00:26 | robin24 | I've got a question: does anyone here use the Rockbox on the Nano IPod? |
| 15:01:09 | robin24 | No? |
| 15:01:21 | markun | some people do, not me |
| 15:01:37 | robin24 | Do you know how that works? |
| 15:01:48 | markun | what do you want to know about it? |
| 15:02:16 | robin24 | I want to know how it works in general and if the installation is difficult. |
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| 15:02:55 | markun | robin24: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 15:03:20 | markun | and http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-build.html |
| 15:05:15 | robin24 | Thanks! But I thought here are some people who have some experience with this. |
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| 15:05:52 | markun | If you wait long enough some ipod nano owners will be here |
| 15:06:16 | robin24 | Sorry, but I don't want to wait... :-) |
| 15:06:21 | markun | ok |
| 15:06:23 | robin24 | Do you use the RockBox? |
| 15:06:27 | markun | yes |
| 15:06:35 | markun | of course :) |
| 15:06:39 | robin24 | How do you like it? |
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| 15:07:15 | markun | I like it a lot, but it probably depends on what you want to do with your player |
| 15:07:23 | dan_a | linuxstb: I think I've just found the bug that was stopping the COP working |
| 15:07:45 | robin24 | So what can you do and what can't you do? |
| 15:08:29 | dan_a | No, maybe not |
| 15:08:43 | markun | You can't play WMA, no songs you bought online and have DRM |
| 15:08:58 | robin24 | That's OK. |
| 15:09:00 | markun | The battery will drain faster on the ipods right now |
| 15:09:03 | robin24 | So are you blind, too? |
| 15:09:54 | markun | No, I'm not |
| 15:10:07 | robin24 | Ah, OK. I am. |
| 15:10:13 | markun | but quite a few rockbox users are blind |
| 15:10:46 | robin24 | Sorry, I have to go now. So bye and thanks for the help! |
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| 15:24:37 | markun | linuxstb: hey, nice! |
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| 15:27:26 | preglow | linuxstb: i was wrong... 24 bit flac struggles even when boosted |
| 15:27:43 | preglow | linuxstb: even on iriver |
| 15:29:04 | preglow | boost ratio varies _a lot_ over the duration of a file |
| 15:29:21 | preglow | from easy decoding at 45mhz to skipping at 125mhz... |
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| 15:49:20 | dan_a | linuxstb: Updated COP patch at www.weirdo.org.uk/rockbox/cop.diff |
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| 15:57:32 | lex | markun: how is your gigabeat doing today? :) |
| 15:59:34 | linuxstb | dan_a_away: Thanks. |
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| 16:06:21 | mirak | I finally understood why a standart 1d idct wasn't working. |
| 16:07:01 | mirak | the reason is that in the data stream the 8x8 dct matrix have the dots arenged differently. instead of having dots 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 contiguous they are like 0 2 4 6 1 3 5 7 |
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| 16:11:57 | dionoea | hi |
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| 16:32:30 | markun | lex: but looks like vadim had the remapping code working. |
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| 17:03:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: you around? |
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| 17:28:04 | linuxstb_ | dan_a_away: I've made a little progress with the COP on my 5g. If I start Rockbox directly (i.e. put Rockbox in the firmware partition instead of a bootloader), then the COP works. But when I load Rockbox via the bootloader, it doesn't look like the COP code is being run. |
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| 17:29:08 | Siimors | wtf is COP? |
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| 17:30:01 | linuxstb_ | The second CPU in the ipods. |
| 17:30:05 | Siimors | yeah |
| 17:30:21 | Siimors | it means better battery life? |
| 17:30:35 | linuxstb_ | It probably means worse battery life.... |
| 17:30:50 | Siimors | better performance |
| 17:30:51 | Siimors | ? |
| 17:31:35 | linuxstb_ | Yes. Currently Rockbox is only using one CPU, and putting the other to sleep. |
| 17:32:28 | Siimors | and apple firmware is using both all the time? |
| 17:32:36 | linuxstb_ | I don't know. |
| 17:32:53 | Siimors | how come it achieves so good battery life with 2 cpus? |
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| 17:33:33 | linuxstb_ | a) Very well optimised codecs (and only a small number of them - Rockbox has about 12); b) Hardware documentation. |
| 17:34:06 | linuxstb_ | And probably c) A programming library to control the hardware provided by PortalPlayer. |
| 17:34:28 | carini | Is there any way to produce remote keypress in the h120 sim? |
| 17:37:55 | * | linuxstb_ is decoding and displaying video on the COP |
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| 17:43:13 | Siimors | linuxstb_: aac lc is still not supported on rockbox? |
| 17:43:20 | Siimors | I tried playing theese files and they skip regulary |
| 17:43:28 | Siimors | ALAC sounds fine |
| 17:43:47 | webguest39 | carini: i think you press 't' or 'r' to switch to remote mode |
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| 17:47:21 | carini | webguest93: That seems to change the remote type, but I don't know how to generate keypresses from the remote. |
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| 17:47:38 | Soap | [2006-09-02 11:45:21] <carini> webguest93: |
| 17:48:26 | carini | Soap: *blush* |
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| 18:46:32 | BigMac | how many battery icons can a wps have? |
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| 18:55:55 | infamis | anyone got vmware (windows + linux under vm)? |
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| 18:58:55 | bluebrother | BigMac, you mean the number of battery level steps? According to the manual 5. |
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| 18:59:14 | BigMac | shoot |
| 18:59:29 | BigMac | yes infamis |
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| 19:00:32 | infamis | ok, I already have a dual boot install of xp + gentoo, but in the docs, it keeps saying I need an image file...but I want to just access my linux partition....know how to set that up? |
| 19:02:08 | infamis | it seems you have to extract a vm image to your windows partition and it runs off that; I just want it to run my already-existing linux partition |
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| 19:03:08 | Xerion | make a virtual machine with direct access to the drive |
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| 19:05:38 | infamis | how do I make one...vmplayer can only run a vm (it seems) |
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| 19:07:38 | infamis | ...or what is the format of a .vmx file |
| 19:08:35 | dionoea | did vmware release a free util to make those files recently ? |
| 19:08:42 | dionoea | didn't |
| 19:09:18 | infamis | know the name of it? |
| 19:09:37 | infamis | "VMware Player runs any virtual machine created by VMware Workstation, GSX Server or ESX Server" |
| 19:09:50 | dionoea | no :( |
| 19:10:04 | dionoea | i know that some linux utils can create those virtual machines too |
| 19:10:39 | infamis | ok, the gsx server is free |
| 19:11:02 | dionoea | http://www.virtualization.info/2005/10/how-to-create-new-virtual-machine-with.html |
| 19:13:10 | infamis | damn the gsx server is a 150MB download...I'll try your link, dionoea |
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| 19:14:23 | dionoea | well gsx server might be better :) |
| 19:19:36 | infamis | http://www.consolevision.com/members/dcgrendel/vmxform.html |
| 19:20:49 | infamis | http://sanbarrow.com/vmxbuilder.html |
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| 19:21:57 | carini | I'm having a weird problem with global_settings. I print the address from init() and then from a function called from init(). In the called function, the address is 8 bytes before the address from init(). Anyone have an idea how to debug this? |
| 19:23:08 | dionoea | infamis: nice links :) |
| 19:23:31 | infamis | yeah if I knew how to use 'em though...lol |
| 19:23:45 | dionoea | the first one doesn't look too hard to use |
| 19:24:04 | dionoea | you'll need to install windows or linux in the virtual machine afterwards |
| 19:24:08 | dionoea | but that's not hard :) |
| 19:24:29 | infamis | that's the thing though...already got everything intsalled already |
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| 19:30:25 | bluebrother | carini, I had something like that too. |
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| 19:31:32 | carini | bluebrother: Did you ever figure it out? |
| 19:31:43 | bluebrother | I was able solving that by moving my variable (char array) to a different place in the user_settings struct ... but I consider this only as a workaround |
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| 19:33:18 | bluebrother | see also the logs, 2006-08-31 starting at about 15:42 −− LinusN and amiconn had the idea of some structure packing issue. |
| 19:35:19 | carini | bluebrother: Yeah, I worked around it by copying my setting to a file-local variable and using that instead of global_settings. But, also a work-around. |
| 19:35:43 | carini | Seems weird that the address would change due to a function call, though. |
| 19:36:32 | bluebrother | after that I ran into another weird issue. Seems my new setting gets stored and read correctly but on the target settings_apply() fails on that value. |
| 19:36:55 | bluebrother | looking into the settings sector on disk reveals that it at least gets written correctly. |
| 19:42:07 | carini | Hmm... For me the settings was still okay at the end of settings_apply(). In fact, that was my work-around. |
| 19:42:23 | carini | What do LinusN and amiconn mean by "struct packing"? |
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| 19:43:07 | bluebrother | as far as I understood the issue it is about the placement of the structure elements in memory |
| 19:43:18 | infamis | I gave in, I'm just going to download the 7z RB vmware image .... |
| 19:43:30 | bluebrother | the funny thing was that in my case the value was 8 chars off in the h120 sim. |
| 19:43:39 | bluebrother | but in the h300 sim it was 4 chars of. |
| 19:43:45 | infamis | seems you have to already have a host to create a new vmware image |
| 19:43:55 | infamis | from within gsx server console, that is |
| 19:44:28 | carini | Yes, that is weird that it would be different for the two targets. |
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| 19:47:14 | carini | I guess what seems really weird to me is that the address is different in main.c and my file (scrobbler.c). |
| 19:54:21 | bluebrother | same for me :( |
| 19:56:51 | carini | found it! |
| 19:58:10 | carini | When main includes settings.h, user_settings includes backlight_on_button_hold, but when my file includes settings.h, that element is not included. |
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| 20:01:23 | Massa | Hi everybody! |
| 20:02:14 | carini | Yup, fixed it :-) |
| 20:03:28 | Massa | Did anybody have a look at my token based WPS parser which I posted at the end of safetydans flyspray entry FS #4826? I would like to get some feedback before I continue... |
| 20:03:28 | bluebrother | carini, how that? |
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| 20:03:52 | carini | Include button.h in settings.h. |
| 20:04:15 | carini | That way, HAS_BUTTON_HOLD is defined by anyone including settings.h. |
| 20:04:37 | carini | Otherwise, the user_settings struct definitions are different if the file doesn't include button.h |
| 20:06:47 | bluebrother | hmm. Pretty nasty. |
| 20:07:06 | carini | Had to diff the preprocessor output to find it. |
| 20:07:45 | bluebrother | hadn't looked at that ... |
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| 20:08:42 | carini | I'll add a patch to flyspray. Hopefully, someone will commit it soon. |
| 20:08:55 | infamis | wtf I got k-lined |
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| 20:09:48 | linuxstb__ | carini: Nice find. I had a feeling it could be something like that. So the fix is just to include button.h in settings.h? If so, I can commit it now. |
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| 20:10:04 | carini | linuxstb: Yup. |
| 20:10:38 | carini | Hey, while you're committing, would you be interesting in committing my patch to add remote keypresses to the sim? ;-) |
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| 20:11:20 | * | bluebrother points to FS #5903 also ;-) |
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| 20:12:38 | bluebrother | damn, sim doesn't come up ... maybe sound device blocked? |
| 20:12:41 | * | bluebrother makes clean |
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| 20:15:54 | * | linuxstb is having a bad ADSL day... |
| 20:16:20 | lex | linuxstb: can i record sound on my photo? :o |
| 20:16:44 | lex | and if i can, where |
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| 20:22:03 | linuxstb | carini: Committed, thanks again. Sorry, I don't have time to look at real patches atm. |
| 20:22:11 | infamis | for Samba to work (on rb linux through vmware), I gotta enable file sharing in windows xp, correct? |
| 20:22:21 | carini | linuxstb: No problem. Thanks for committing the fix. |
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| 20:22:46 | linuxstb | lex: In theory yes, but I haven't committed the code to CVS yet. My recording code also needs finishing and re-syncing to the current CVS. |
| 20:22:57 | lex | :( |
| 20:23:12 | * | bluebrother just typed "poweroff" in the wrong terminal :( |
| 20:24:15 | lex | he :p |
| 20:24:28 | xNibbler | ohoh |
| 20:24:33 | lex | i accidentally shut down two servers instead of my own computer |
| 20:24:53 | lex | "halt" "oops, let's try again" "halt" "oops" :p |
| 20:25:08 | lex | but at the third time i managed to shut down my computer |
| 20:29:01 | Galois | use the power button instead of the command line to invoke a local shutdown... |
| 20:29:36 | infamis | "no network provider accepted the given network path" when typing \\debian\user from windows xp... |
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| 20:31:25 | bluebrother | the machine I wanted to shut down is to old to handle the power button via acpi ... |
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| 20:32:42 | bluebrother | ok, let's see if this fixes my problem on the target ... |
| 20:32:51 | * | bluebrother crosses fingers |
| 20:32:53 | infamis | d |
| 20:33:15 | carini | linuxstb: How long does it take the commit to show up? |
| 20:34:21 | bluebrother | \o/ |
| 20:34:53 | * | bluebrother does another try ... |
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| 20:35:34 | bluebrother | damn. Just worked on the first try :( |
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| 20:36:01 | bluebrother | at least, one of two problems fixed. |
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| 20:43:53 | infamis | that rockbox people map kills my computer lol..too many damn users! |
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| 20:45:42 | infamis | there's no terminals in vmware rockbox |
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| 20:52:20 | infamis | jhMikeS, you're gonna like this: I moved over to vmware with the provided debian/rockbox image file....and guess what...SAME ERROR!!! lol |
| 20:53:40 | Xerion | a bit late but you can use this to make a vm for vmware player: http://www.easyvmx.com/ |
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| 20:54:28 | infamis | thanks Xerion, I'll try that out sometime in the future |
| 20:54:52 | infamis | http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/6883/damnerrorzj9.jpg |
| 20:56:35 | bluebrother | infamis, are you trying to build logf-enabled? |
| 20:57:23 | infamis | damn, you beat me to it! I just figured it out too! |
| 20:57:33 | bluebrother | I had this some days ago, try adding -fomit-frame-pointer to GCCOPTS in the makefile |
| 20:57:35 | infamis | but yup, just did a non-logf & it worked |
| 20:58:20 | infamis | damn bluebrother and all this time I thought it was cygwin/or m685k-elf-gcc-3.4.5 |
| 20:58:50 | bluebrother | back in a couple of minutes |
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| 21:01:23 | lex | is there coming a support for ext2/3 filesystem(s) to the rockbox? |
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| 21:04:41 | infamis | so, in the configure script, just have to add $GCCOPTS = "$GCCOPTS $GCCOPTIMIZE" (inside of whichdevel()) |
| 21:04:48 | infamis | if they selected logf |
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| 21:06:59 | infamis | bagder maybe? is there a reason why we don't want optimization for logf? |
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| 21:10:25 | infamis | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20051001.txt |
| 21:10:26 | infamis | "09.53.45 # <amiconn> Using frame pointers might make debugging easier. No reason other than that, methinks" |
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| 21:10:49 | infamis | "09.55.40 # <amiconn> For logf() builds it's definitely unnecessary to have frame pointers" |
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| 21:11:32 | linuxstb | carini: Sorry, my commit failed and I didn't notice. I've now really committed it... |
| 21:11:44 | carini | :-) thanks |
| 21:13:10 | linuxstb | lex: No-one has expressed any interest in implementing any new filesystems. But that doesn't mean it will never happen. |
| 21:13:44 | lex | ext would be so much better than fat |
| 21:13:49 | lex | it's free too |
| 21:14:17 | linuxstb | Not convenient for Windows or Mac OS users though... |
| 21:14:32 | lex | i'm using ext3 right now on windows actually |
| 21:14:36 | lex | with ext2fsd |
| 21:14:59 | linuxstb | Yes, but I'm sure it wasn't convenient... You won't be able to use your DAP with any Windows PC you find. |
| 21:15:10 | lex | hmm |
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| 21:15:49 | telliott_ | What |
| 21:15:57 | bluebrother | lex, is there a good way to use ext2 on windows? The driver I use behaves badly on removable drives −− I need to unmap them before disconnecting |
| 21:16:09 | lex | bluebrother: ext2fsd works great |
| 21:16:17 | telliott_ | What's the best 120 gig drive for my Archos V1 recorder? |
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| 21:16:29 | lex | bluebrother: but you need to mount the drivers manually - type mount hdnumber partitionnumber letter: to the command line |
| 21:17:03 | bluebrother | hmm, I'm using the ifs driver from fs-drivers.org |
| 21:17:17 | lex | a working reiserfs driver would be great |
| 21:17:29 | bluebrother | correct me, fs-driver.org |
| 21:17:44 | lex | hmm |
| 21:18:04 | lex | ext2fsd works fine, i can play hl2 from a ext3 partition like from any ntfs partition |
| 21:18:27 | holysmokes | Can anyone give me a hand here? My player won't turn on after it's been rockboxed. |
| 21:18:35 | bluebrother | will mapped drives work if I disconnect them before removing the drive letter? I.e. is it sufficient to unmount the drive? |
| 21:18:54 | linuxstb | holysmokes: What player? |
| 21:19:00 | holysmokes | X5L |
| 21:19:03 | lex | hmm you mean a removable drive? |
| 21:19:15 | lex | i have only tried with my s-ata hds :o |
| 21:19:31 | linuxstb | holysmokes: Sorry, I know nothing about the X5. |
| 21:19:42 | lex | now i'll go to eat |
| 21:19:48 | holysmokes | thanks anyway |
| 21:20:12 | bluebrother | lex, yes, usb drive. Is it correct the driver can convert codepages? |
| 21:20:32 | infamis | holysmokes, I have an X5... |
| 21:20:40 | lex | bluebrother: i don't know... :) |
| 21:20:44 | bluebrother | as the driver I'm currently using uses windows codepage for the filenames, messing with the utf8 filenames of the disk ... |
| 21:20:45 | lex | bluebrother: look at the page |
| 21:20:52 | infamis | holysmokes, what happens when you turn it on? |
| 21:20:58 | bluebrother | I guess I'll need to give it a try. Thanks :) |
| 21:21:10 | lex | http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:21:33 | lex | Tasks to do next step for 0.26: |
| 21:21:33 | lex | 1, codepage / read-only attributes support per mounting |
| 21:21:34 | lex | :o |
| 21:21:59 | lex | it's a pretty old project but it works |
| 21:23:29 | holysmokes | @infamis -> I cannot turn on the player. I've tried resetting. Nothing happens when I connect to power adapter and nothing happens when I connect via USB\ |
| 21:24:26 | infamis | ouch... |
| 21:25:05 | infamis | so no charging indicator when pluggin in AC? sounds pretty bad |
| 21:25:31 | infamis | as that is stuff rockbox does not mess with |
| 21:25:56 | holysmokes | yeah nothing happens. i was playing music while connected to a computer and all of a sudden it just shutdown for no apparent reason |
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| 21:26:31 | infamis | are you hesitant to open it up? |
| 21:26:41 | infamis | the charging & usb is still handled by cowon, even with rockbox installed |
| 21:27:10 | infamis | first thing I'd do is grab a meter over the battery |
| 21:27:16 | linuxstb | holysmokes: So it was still working after you installed Rockbox? |
| 21:27:27 | holysmokes | yes it worked for a week |
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| 21:28:01 | holysmokes | i wouldn't know what to look for if i opened it up |
| 21:28:33 | linuxstb | Is it still under warranty? |
| 21:29:25 | holysmokes | yes. doesn't rockboxing void warranty? |
| 21:30:10 | infamis | most likely...that's why when I sent mine back cause the dock connector had a short in it, I reinstalled the original Cowon firmware |
| 21:30:49 | infamis | when I got it back they had installed a new version of firmware on there, meaning that they probably had it on |
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| 21:31:52 | holysmokes | so if I can't turn the x5 back to the original firmware, I'm pretty well screwed. |
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| 21:32:24 | infamis | ...if they discover the problem... |
| 21:32:53 | infamis | it might be a hardware problem, which they fix, and when they discover something called "rockbox"...they'd already fixed it so, ... |
| 21:34:57 | holysmokes | true |
| 21:35:37 | infamis | they might just fix it (if it's a hardware problem), and reflash just-because...before they even discover rockbox |
| 21:36:45 | infamis | when does your warranty expire? I think we have a 1-year period? |
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| 21:41:06 | holysmokes | Yeah it's one year. I can't exactly remember when I bought it but I'm still in the period. |
| 21:41:23 | holysmokes | I've emailed tech support and I'll just wait to hear from them |
| 21:44:40 | infamis | ok, they'll probably direct you here: http://jetdb.jetaudio.com/RMARequest/Request.aspx |
| 21:46:24 | holysmokes | oh nice. how is their response time with these issues? |
| 21:48:31 | Slasheri | hmm, this looks promising. i just added linked lists for running and sleeping processes to the thread scheduler. Now unnecessary context switches have been eliminated, wake_up_thread() call completely removed and list handling should be quite efficient (need to do some sort of performance testing soon). It should be also trivial now to add the priorities later |
| 21:50:46 | infamis | pretty good; I've RMA'd mine twice so far! I shipped mine to them & they got it on 8/11/06, they shipped it back 8/14/06 and I it was delivered back to me on 8/18/06 |
| 21:51:23 | infamis | so about 1 week turnaround time (I shipped fedex ground, they did ups ground; I'm chicago, they're california) |
| 21:51:53 | holysmokes | yeah that's impressive. What paperwork needs to go with the player? |
| 21:53:32 | infamis | all I had with it was my invoice from eCost.com and when they accept your rma, you'll get an email with the title "Your RMA request is accepted." which tells you to print it out & send it back with the device. |
| 21:54:01 | infamis | and just make sure you throw the rma# on the outside of the box, and that was it |
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| 21:56:11 | ghode|afk | Slasheri: does that mean anything good for the end user? |
| 21:56:22 | holysmokes | ok sweet ill go dig for my reciepts. |
| 21:56:29 | holysmokes | i really appreciate your advice man |
| 21:56:39 | holysmokes | you didn't need to help |
| 21:56:59 | infamis | no problem...hope it gets fixed soon...and when it does, make sure you throw rockbox back on... |
| 21:57:29 | holysmokes | ha not going to lie, ill have to think about that one |
| 21:57:35 | Slasheri | ghode|afk: it should give slightly better performance and battery usage, but probably so small that user wont notice it |
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| 21:58:45 | infamis | did you say you would have to think about putting rockbox back on???!!? just playin, do what you feels best... |
| 21:58:56 | infamis | *feel is best |
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| 22:00:25 | linuxstb | Slasheri: So why do it? :) |
| 22:01:54 | Slasheri | linuxstb: it probably makes the code more readable/understandable and makes it easier to add some nice features to the threading in future |
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| 22:04:33 | webguest93 | Does the current RB kernel 'halt' when idle? Or busyloop? |
| 22:04:48 | Slasheri | yep, it puts cpu in sleep mode |
| 22:07:33 | TrueJournals | I put rockbox on my H10 when it came out... and I enjoy playing solitare... but it seems that on one card mode, the first card you draw from the pile becomes "invisible" |
| 22:07:41 | TrueJournals | is this a problem with the plugin or the H10 port? |
| 22:07:48 | linuxstb | Which H10? |
| 22:07:52 | bluebrother | TrueJournals, this is a problem with the plugin. |
| 22:07:55 | TrueJournals | 20GB |
| 22:08:10 | TrueJournals | bluebrother: thanks... think it will be fixed? |
| 22:08:13 | bluebrother | dionoea was working on that IIrc |
| 22:08:27 | dionoea | yeah :) |
| 22:08:28 | bluebrother | I guess so but don't ask me when ;-) |
| 22:08:36 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 22:08:36 | dionoea | i'll commit the fix today |
| 22:08:37 | TrueJournals | thanks |
| 22:08:46 | bluebrother | wow, nice :) |
| 22:08:48 | TrueJournals | love Rockbox by the way :-p |
| 22:09:02 | * | linuxstb wonders which timezone dionoea is in |
| 22:09:17 | * | bluebrother guesses GMT+1 |
| 22:09:36 | * | linuxstb calculates 110 minutes left of today then |
| 22:09:39 | dionoea | bluebrother is right |
| 22:09:54 | bluebrother | woot! Did I win something? |
| 22:10:14 | dionoea | sure! you win a free copy of rockbox |
| 22:10:25 | bluebrother | damn, I already have that. |
| 22:10:27 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 22:10:31 | bluebrother | hehe :) |
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| 22:13:11 | telliott_ | I found a great deal on a 120 gig drive. What do you guys think of HITACHI Travelstar 4K120 HTS421212H9AT00 |
| 22:13:52 | infamis | oh no |
| 22:14:02 | Galois | that's like deathstar |
| 22:14:16 | infamis | karma....karma....karmaaaaaaa |
| 22:14:25 | infamis | ...which I miss |
| 22:15:09 | bluebrother | I used quite some IBM / Hitachi drives without any failures |
| 22:15:48 | BigMac | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=6801 |
| 22:15:57 | BigMac | can someone help me with that |
| 22:16:05 | BigMac | it isn't displaying my battery |
| 22:16:10 | infamis | I'm probably exaggerating but the hitachi travelstar was the death of Rio |
| 22:16:13 | BigMac | it stays on batt 3 |
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| 22:16:29 | Galois | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deskstar |
| 22:16:50 | BigMac | if you can give me a different line that may work better i'd be very appreciative |
| 22:16:52 | infamis | "The paste specified (#6801) doesn't exist." ..... |
| 22:17:08 | bluebrother | BigMac, the link gives a nice "Warning: Cannot use a scalar value as an array in /home/nmp/public_html/paste.php on line 190" |
| 22:17:19 | telliott_ | bluebrother: What hard drive are you using now? |
| 22:17:22 | BigMac | ill check it out h/o |
| 22:17:31 | BigMac | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=68013 |
| 22:17:38 | BigMac | better? |
| 22:18:43 | BigMac | or any other optimization would be helpful |
| 22:18:49 | telliott_ | Any problems using a drive as large as 120 gigs on a V1 recorder? |
| 22:18:58 | BigMac | i want to use scroll margins to make it look like vlc |
| 22:19:14 | BigMac | but can't because then it couldn't be used with the cvs |
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| 22:20:24 | bluebrother | telliott_, TOSHIBA MK8025GAS −− but I used a Hitachi drive for over 2 years in that machine |
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| 22:20:59 | bluebrother | I replaced it for space reasons, and there wasn't a suitable drive from Hitachi available the time I changed it. |
| 22:22:09 | telliott_ | Cool. Newegg has that drive for about $100. Looks like a great deal. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822145114 |
| 22:22:22 | BigMac | so no help anyone? |
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| 22:23:36 | bluebrother | BigMac, your link only gives an error thus no way to have a look at your current work |
| 22:24:01 | bluebrother | woops, missed the second link. |
| 22:24:12 | BigMac | yah check that out |
| 22:24:36 | lex | good night -> |
| 22:27:16 | bluebrother | BigMac, looks fine to me. |
| 22:28:04 | telliott_ | I'm hoping to keep my V1 recorder going till high capacity (At least 30GB) flash players are out and affordable. |
| 22:28:46 | telliott_ | It wasn't that long ago that 128 meg flash players were expensive. |
| 22:29:20 | bluebrother | it's always kinda annoying to see how prices on computer stuff are dropping |
| 22:30:32 | Bagder | linuxstb: LordOfThePings in the forum most probably has a 010301 header, as one the 722 mi4 on my page is a such |
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| 22:37:34 | infamis | bluebrother...lol, stay annoyed, more for me! |
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| 22:43:51 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: I'm sure that's true. It's odd that he appears to have identical hardware to me though, and the pp5020.mi4 installed on my player is the same as the one in the latest official firmware upgrade. |
| 22:44:13 | Bagder | linuxstb: but I have a mi4 upgrade for the 722 that is a 010301 |
| 22:44:35 | Bagder | so it might be that your HW aren't identical |
| 22:45:31 | telliott_ | Anyone else using a 120 gig hard drive in an Archos? |
| 22:45:46 | Bagder | telliott_: many do |
| 22:46:37 | linuxstb_ | The box my player came in says both P722 and TPJ-1022 on it - I think he must be using the P722 firmware, and I'm using the TPJ1022 firmware. |
| 22:46:55 | Bagder | sounds like a reasonably theory |
| 22:48:39 | linuxstb_ | That's going to be a pain if users can have both v2 and v3 bootloaders in the same hardware... |
| 22:50:15 | Bagder | yes, and the 722 even seems like it used to be 010201 but is upgradable to 010301 |
| 22:50:35 | linuxstb_ | It seems that if I go to www.eliohome.com and select "products", I'm only given the TPJ-1022 option. If I instead select "support", I'm only given a P722.. |
| 22:50:44 | Bagder | weird |
| 22:50:52 | | Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 22:50:59 | linuxstb_ | With two different firmware download pages... |
| 22:51:53 | linuxstb_ | The P722 is newer though - December 2005 compared to June 2005 for the TPJ. |
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| 22:53:48 | Davide-NYC | What targets does Mmmm's new recording statubar affect? |
| 22:54:07 | Davide-NYC | Just SWCODEC targets, or also the older archos targets? |
| 22:54:13 | webguest68 | Hi there! |
| 22:54:17 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 22:54:30 | TrueJournals | hi |
| 22:54:42 | webguest68 | I have no idea how this works here... |
| 22:54:57 | TrueJournals | lol, installing rockbox, what rockbox is, or what? |
| 22:55:02 | linuxstb_ | webguest68: You type, other people either ignore you or reply... |
| 22:55:30 | Davide-NYC | I get a compile error on X5 sim on make |
| 22:55:31 | webguest68 | I just wanted to upload my new created WPS to the rockbox wiki |
| 22:56:18 | webguest68 | ... and then they said that I have to ask for permission... |
| 22:56:32 | Davide-NYC | Can anyone tell me what this means? |
| 22:56:33 | webguest68 | anyone know how this works? |
| 22:56:34 | Davide-NYC | AR+RANLIB /home/Administrator/rockbox-devel/sim.X5/libcodec.a |
| 22:56:35 | linuxstb_ | What is your wiki name? |
| 22:56:35 | Davide-NYC | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `button-target.h', needed by `/home/Administ |
| 22:56:37 | Davide-NYC | rator/rockbox-devel/sim.X5/apps/codecs/vorbis.o'. Stop. |
| 22:56:38 | Davide-NYC | make[1]: *** [build-codecs] Error 2 |
| 22:56:40 | Davide-NYC | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 22:57:23 | webguest68 | my wiki name is AlexanderJaudas |
| 22:59:42 | linuxstb_ | webguest68: You should be good to go. |
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| 23:00:06 | webguest68 | oh, thank you very much !!! |
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| 23:00:45 | webguest68 | ... because I'm realy proud that I was able to create a WPS .... :-) |
| 23:01:50 | TrueJournals | what player did you create a WPS for? |
| 23:02:01 | infamis | Davide-NYC, what were your configure options? |
| 23:02:16 | infamis | builds fine for me (x5, devel: logf+sim) |
| 23:02:20 | Davide-NYC | target 30 (X5) simulator and sdl |
| 23:02:41 | webguest68 | I made a WPS for the iPod Nano |
| 23:02:48 | TrueJournals | ah ok... |
| 23:02:49 | Davide-NYC | confused, what is devel: logf+sim |
| 23:02:52 | TrueJournals | darn :-p |
| 23:03:20 | Davide-NYC | infamis: using cygwin on winxppro sp2 |
| 23:03:27 | infamis | when you choose (D)eveloper, it asks what options you want (logf/debug/simulator/profiling) |
| 23:03:39 | infamis | (D) instead of (S)imulator |
| 23:03:48 | Davide-NYC | I'll try that |
| 23:04:06 | webguest68 | sorry, but I have no idea how this IRC chat thing works... So... thanks again and good bye! |
| 23:04:12 | infamis | hold on I'll just try the normal way |
| 23:04:20 | Davide-NYC | wait, I get the sim running, but I still wanted to report that error |
| 23:04:25 | TrueJournals | see ya webguest68 |
| 23:04:31 | linuxstb_ | webguest68: It works exactly how you just used it... |
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| 23:06:22 | infamis | hey Davide-NYC (scorche would like this)...you should just use vmware instead of cygwin.... |
| 23:06:31 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 23:06:40 | infamis | I recently moved over, and I did ask myself the "why" question brought up last night |
| 23:06:45 | Bagder | Davide-NYC: I get the problem too... |
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| 23:07:04 | Bagder | odd |
| 23:07:23 | Davide-NYC | badger, the sim works though... but that error saying something about target buttons has me conserned |
| 23:07:32 | Davide-NYC | (sp?) |
| 23:07:38 | Davide-NYC | concerned |
| 23:07:59 | * | Davide-NYC wonder what he actually learned in high school, let alone college |
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| 23:08:49 | Davide-NYC | sorry to repeat myself, but when I build archos sims I do not see the new status bar in the 'WRS'. Is this by design? |
| 23:08:53 | infamis | ahh...settings.h was updated....I was using old cvs stuff |
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| 23:09:12 | infamis | get the error now too |
| 23:09:24 | Davide-NYC | it's contageous |
| 23:10:10 | linuxstb_ | So it was my commit that broke the sim? |
| 23:10:47 | Bagder | I think it might've been that |
| 23:10:48 | infamis | seems like it |
| 23:11:04 | Davide-NYC | so far I've only seen that error on the X5 sim |
| 23:11:12 | Bagder | but its not clear to me exactly why... |
| 23:11:31 | Davide-NYC | so far built FMRec, H120cd .. |
| 23:12:20 | * | Davide-NYC wished for an app that would track eye movement and focus application windows accordingly |
| 23:12:26 | Bagder | the problem seems to be that button.h includes button-target.h for target_tree devices, even when built as sim |
| 23:13:37 | Bagder | hm, no |
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| 23:15:09 | nicox | hello? |
| 23:15:19 | Bagder | now I see it |
| 23:15:34 | Bagder | the target_tree include paths are not properly passed on when the dep-files are generated |
| 23:15:50 | nicox | can anybody help me with the installation of rockbox on a Elio TPJ-1022 ? |
| 23:16:13 | Bagder | nicox: rockbox doesn't work on that yet, we only have early testings going on |
| 23:16:18 | Davide-NYC | no error for a H320 sim build |
| 23:16:36 | Davide-NYC | I think it's X5 in particular? |
| 23:16:38 | Bagder | no, that's not a target_tree platform |
| 23:16:58 | nicox | really not working, or is the first test okay? |
| 23:17:07 | nicox | can i try the first test version? |
| 23:17:12 | nicox | how can i try? |
| 23:17:26 | Davide-NYC | badger: trying to help but am unsure of what target_tree platform is? |
| 23:17:37 | linuxstb_ | We can read some of the buttons, and read/write to disk. Nothing is displayed on the LCD. |
| 23:17:55 | Bagder | Davide-NYC: its the new way of storing device/platform-specific code in the firmware source code tree |
| 23:18:17 | Bagder | nicox: build a rockbox bootloader for it |
| 23:18:23 | Bagder | and join in the fun |
| 23:18:25 | Davide-NYC | what target have had their data stored this way so far? |
| 23:18:31 | Davide-NYC | . |
| 23:18:38 | Bagder | Davide-NYC: x5, h10, gigabeat, etc |
| 23:18:49 | Bagder | basically the newest ones |
| 23:18:51 | Davide-NYC | building gigabeat sim as we type! |
| 23:18:56 | nicox | how can i build a bootloader for it? |
| 23:19:13 | Bagder | nicox: get the code, build a cross-compiler, run tools/configure and make |
| 23:19:53 | Davide-NYC | nicox: watch out these guys are serious and this stuff is addicting! I could compile a pile of dirt 2 months ago |
| 23:20:01 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 23:20:22 | Davide-NYC | No I got me a no fun patch and made a change to the Twiki! Woot. |
| 23:20:26 | * | dionoea has 40 minutes left to start working on solitaire |
| 23:20:57 | * | TrueJournals thinks dionoea should hurry up >:O |
| 23:21:01 | TrueJournals | just kidding of course |
| 23:21:03 | infamis | dionoea, you're supposed to be working on it, not playing it |
| 23:21:04 | linuxstb_ | dionoea: Just pretend you're Australian - you're day is about to begin. |
| 23:21:11 | linuxstb_ | ^your |
| 23:22:17 | nicox | hm... i will try to get the cross compiler working, and will try the bootloader |
| 23:22:20 | Davide-NYC | badger: error on Gigabeat sim build. you are on the right track. |
| 23:22:29 | Bagder | yeps, I see the problem |
| 23:22:34 | Bagder | fix coming up, testing it now |
| 23:22:44 | dionoea | linuxstb_: hehe :) |
| 23:23:13 | linuxstb_ | dionoea: You broke the golden rule - never estimate release dates. |
| 23:23:31 | dionoea | i don't know if you people read about this on slashdot, but it's amazing! http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/tic-tac-toe-playing-lego-robot |
| 23:23:35 | Davide-NYC | infamis: I'm stuck with cygwin until I find the time to extricat my raid array from my workstation into a dedicated fileserver. |
| 23:23:38 | infamis | linuxstb_, ain't that the truth |
| 23:23:47 | dionoea | linuxstb_: i'm estimating "start working on it" dates :) |
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| 23:24:18 | linuxstb_ | 22.08.36 # <dionoea> i'll commit the fix today |
| 23:24:33 | infamis | Davide-NYC, forget about all that crap, grab you a generic disk drive & throw vmware on it! |
| 23:25:02 | dionoea | i never said that |
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| 23:26:51 | Davide-NYC | I need to remove the RAID controller. |
| 23:27:13 | Davide-NYC | remove it from my workstation. That is what's causing the problem |
| 23:28:12 | infamis | jhMikeS, error that I thought was cygwin was cause there's no more address registers left unless you disable the frame-pointer, in which you gain an extra address register (4 address registers listed in clobber list + 3 for read/write operands + frame pointer = 8 registers, but we only have 7 usable since a7 is stack) |
| 23:28:47 | Bagder | that's no cygwin's fault, that's gcc |
| 23:28:55 | infamis | exactly |
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| 23:29:17 | infamis | we _originally_ thought it was a cygwin problem |
| 23:29:54 | infamis | so jhMikeS, just use one less address register ;) |
| 23:30:21 | infamis | with some manual asm optimization.... |
| 23:31:20 | Bagder | fix committed |
| 23:31:32 | infamis | I would do it but I'm not adept at m68k asm |
| 23:33:07 | nicox | is there a chance to get the display working ? if there is a chance, when do you know a source is availabable? |
| 23:33:45 | infamis | bagder, fix works on my side |
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| 23:34:14 | dionoea | amiconn: which bug am i supposed to fix btw ? |
| 23:34:16 | TrueJournals | I'm not sure (I don't develop) but I think the fastest way for them to figure out how to get the LCD working would be to open the player up and figure out how it's hooked up |
| 23:34:22 | TrueJournals | (that was to nicox) |
| 23:34:24 | Bagder | nicox: there is a chance but its not possible to know when or if it will be working |
| 23:34:27 | dionoea | or TrueJournals ? |
| 23:34:50 | Bagder | TrueJournals: not really, the way is rather to disassemble the bootloader/firmware |
| 23:35:00 | TrueJournals | dionoea: When you have it set to "Draw one card", the first card you draw from the stack (everytime) is invisible |
| 23:35:05 | TrueJournals | Oh, my bad :-p |
| 23:35:07 | nicox | there are some pics on wiki!? |
| 23:35:10 | dionoea | Draw one card is cheating |
| 23:35:15 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 23:35:19 | TrueJournals | it's still a bug :-\ |
| 23:35:38 | dionoea | that why i never noticed that bug :) |
| 23:35:47 | TrueJournals | lol |
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| 23:39:12 | Bagder | now that screwed up builds... |
| 23:39:34 | infamis | lol, I wasn't going to say it |
| 23:39:50 | Bagder | 470 points to me |
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| 23:45:48 | Siimors | getting solitare to work properly is priority number 1 , of course |
| 23:45:56 | infamis | bagder, don't know why, but a #ifdef SIMULATOR before #include "button.h" in settings.h works for sim & normal builds |
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| 23:53:23 | telliott_ | I just purchased the HITACHI Travelstar 4K120 120 gig drive for about $104 (with shipping) from newegg. Thanks for your help. |
| 23:56:35 | dionoea | crap, i commited 4 minutes too early |
| 23:58:17 | Bagder | shame on you! |
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