| 00:00:04 | Bagder | yeah, that's not the proper fix to this problem |
| 00:01:13 | bluebrother | Bagder, red builds :( |
| 00:01:19 | Bagder | I know |
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| 00:01:46 | bluebrother | just the moment I updated my source tree. Too bad :( |
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| 00:03:07 | Bagder | working on a fix |
| 00:03:58 | infamis | it's a quick hack...button.h wasn't even included at all before 19:11... |
| 00:04:05 | dionoea | the cvs builds table is getting larger and larger every day ... doesn't fit on my screen now |
| 00:05:33 | Bagder | more More MORE! |
| 00:05:59 | TucknDar | only idling in here, but I take it from your conversation that the now's not the best time to update to the latest bleeding edge build ;) |
| 00:06:06 | linuxstb_ | We have a long list of potential PP5020 targets now... |
| 00:06:12 | | Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 00:06:25 | TrueJournals | Alright... who broke rockbox? :-p |
| 00:07:57 | BHSPitMonkey | I did! Got a problem with it! |
| 00:08:01 | TrueJournals | YES |
| 00:08:14 | BHSPitMonkey | and I'll do it again, and again! |
| 00:08:16 | TrueJournals | I want solitaire fixed but I can't have it because someone broke rockbox :-p |
| 00:08:41 | BHSPitMonkey | well, I don't have CVS privs, do I doubt I could have really done it ^^ |
| 00:08:51 | BHSPitMonkey | why don't you go look to the recent CVS activity for your culprit |
| 00:09:35 | TrueJournals | CVS says... |
| 00:09:36 | TrueJournals | Daniel Stenberg |
| 00:10:39 | dionoea | Bagder: i get a "Server Error" message when trying to access the wiki's main page |
| 00:10:46 | dionoea | error code is 500 |
| 00:11:10 | Bagder | what URL? |
| 00:11:25 | dionoea | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome |
| 00:11:38 | Bagder | I can view that... |
| 00:11:40 | TrueJournals | that's odd... works fine for me |
| 00:11:59 | * | dionoea presses Ctrl+Shift+r and it works ... weird ... ctrl-r didn't |
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| 00:20:13 | infamis | 500 over here |
| 00:20:22 | scorche | infamis: =) |
| 00:20:26 | infamis | 200 now |
| 00:20:41 | infamis | scorche, yeah I gave in |
| 00:22:52 | infamis | it sucks that I have to use pscp to transfer files between virtual machines though |
| 00:23:03 | infamis | since filesharing doesn't work |
| 00:23:09 | scorche | why not? |
| 00:23:20 | scorche | samba is enabled on the vmware image |
| 00:23:28 | scorche | \\debian\user |
| 00:24:24 | infamis | yeah, tried; kept saying no network provider accepts the address or whatever |
| 00:25:28 | infamis | "no network provider accepted the given network path" |
| 00:25:44 | infamis | I have filesharing and all that disabled but tried enabling services but still no go |
| 00:26:05 | infamis | no need for filesharing since I only have 1 computer |
| 00:26:26 | scorche | have you tried disabling the vmware network adapter and enabling it again? |
| 00:26:54 | infamis | hmm...never noticed these 2 new adapters |
| 00:26:59 | infamis | why do Ihave two? |
| 00:27:21 | scorche | forgot the exact reason, but i do as well |
| 00:27:39 | TrueJournals | Who will fix teh Rockbox??? |
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| 00:27:56 | maara | hi |
| 00:28:20 | TrueJournals | howdy |
| 00:28:21 | infamis | lemme see... |
| 00:28:22 | maara | only one question - is it possible to play video on roxbox on ipod video?? |
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| 00:28:41 | scorche | maara: yes |
| 00:29:39 | infamis | scorche, yeah that worked!!! |
| 00:29:49 | scorche | =) |
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| 00:30:20 | maara | realy? without any problem? :) |
| 00:30:35 | maara | and is it able to decode divx?? |
| 00:30:40 | scorche | it was probably just on a different subnet/vlan/whatever to start with |
| 00:31:25 | scorche | maara: it is a work in progress....atm, it is only able to decode a specific format...see the mpegplayer wiki page for more information |
| 00:31:43 | Bagder | maara: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
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| 00:32:33 | infamis | yeah they all are different subnets for some reason: vmnet1 on 192.168.203.1/vmnet8 on 192.168.171.1/nic (which has vmware bridge enabled) on 192.168.1.109 |
| 00:32:48 | infamis | subnet mask 24bits |
| 00:33:39 | Bagder | ok, there's still a silly dep problem in the codec makefile but I'll leave that for now |
| 00:33:41 | maara | scorche: ok thx... - i am gonna to have ipod video and i want to use rockbox on it from the begin so i have so lame questions...;) |
| 00:33:52 | Bagder | I'll just fix the borked build now |
| 00:36:00 | TrueJournals | thank you |
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| 00:45:22 | bluebrother | I've just created a patch which addresses FS #5929 −− does somebody wants to look into it? |
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| 01:00:41 | infamis | bluebrother: where's the definition of fm_emphasis? |
| 01:01:44 | * | dionoea tells infamis about "grep" |
| 01:02:23 | bluebrother | infamis, in settings.h, structure user_settings |
| 01:03:38 | bluebrother | oops, that is missing in the diff. |
| 01:03:52 | infamis | :) |
| 01:04:22 | infamis | grep was the first thing I tried ;) |
| 01:05:06 | bluebrother | seems the clean tree I tried wasn't really clean :( |
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| 01:09:37 | bluebrother | infamis, fixed version attached. |
| 01:09:55 | bluebrother | now I tried a _really_ clean tree for building |
| 01:11:47 | Davide-NYC | bluebrother: whatdoes this patch do/fix? |
| 01:12:08 | Davide-NYC | I just did a google search and came up with data that was way beyond my comprehention |
| 01:12:54 | bluebrother | radio uses this thing calles "emphasis". You just need to set it correctly, and it is different depending on your location. |
| 01:13:13 | bluebrother | like the task description says, europe uses 50us, US 75us. |
| 01:14:08 | bluebrother | haven't looked into the technical details, just how to program the tuner chip correctly ;-) |
| 01:14:58 | Davide-NYC | gotcha, what was it set to before? 75us or 50us? |
| 01:15:16 | bluebrother | afaics 50us |
| 01:15:45 | Davide-NYC | hmm so I should expect better FM! |
| 01:15:53 | Davide-NYC | (I'm in NYC) |
| 01:16:05 | bluebrother | possibly. It's not too much better but I can at least hear a difference. |
| 01:16:25 | bluebrother | like someone changing your treble value a bit. |
| 01:19:43 | Davide-NYC | kewl |
| 01:21:26 | bluebrother | anyway, gonna get some sleep. It's gotten late here. |
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| 01:39:37 | [HO]vo|t | in general, would there be any interest in my recorder v2 parts? it's the main board including lcd screen, but has poor work done on the headphone/line out jacks rendering those useless |
| 01:40:18 | scorche | if they were v1 parts... |
| 01:40:38 | [HO]vo|t | basically i'm asking if i should save them or smash them |
| 01:40:48 | [HO]vo|t | smash it or throw it away |
| 01:40:59 | Soap | it's akin to the RIAA curve on records, pre-emphasis on original CDs, and Doby-B noise reduction. You pre-boost the part of the signal most succeptable to degredation, and then de-boost at the playing end. |
| 01:43:45 | [HO]vo|t | scorche: what do you need of v1? |
| 01:44:13 | scorche | pretty much the whole board considering that the usb 2.0 components are not pin compatible |
| 01:44:31 | [HO]vo|t | i see |
| 01:45:05 | [HO]vo|t | did your direct deposit go through yet? |
| 01:45:37 | Soap | don't say it has. I haven't even gotten the application conformation postal-mail yet. |
| 01:46:04 | scorche | it either went through yesterday, or will go through monday |
| 01:46:21 | Soap | not monday, tuesday. |
| 01:46:32 | scorche | oh yeah..labor day |
| 01:46:35 | [HO]vo|t | cool - i went to the keybank myself and opened the checking account, also applied for the credit card, and i'm putting in my direct deposit request on tuesday |
| 01:46:55 | scorche | Soap: what "application confirmation"? |
| 01:47:50 | Soap | i applied online, you did in the branch, they still need a signature, so they are /supposed/ to send me a form to sign. |
| 01:47:59 | scorche | ah |
| 01:48:09 | scorche | why didnt you just ahve them fax it?....faster |
| 01:48:17 | Soap | it wasn't an option. |
| 01:48:36 | Soap | Though that is how I set up my IRA account, so obviously a fax of a signature is good enough legally. |
| 01:49:06 | [HO]vo|t | my only hope is that they don't run out of their limited quantity of ipod nanos |
| 01:49:35 | scorche | i know it is alright legally...that is why i suggested it =) |
| 01:49:43 | Soap | my hope is that they do and start shipping 2 giggers instead, for I have a feeling the 1gigger is "going down" on the 12th. |
| 01:50:01 | scorche | if possible, when you get the confirmation, call then and see if they can accept a fax of it to speed it up |
| 01:50:11 | [HO]vo|t | Soap: "going down" ? |
| 01:50:26 | scorche | as in going down for a new model? |
| 01:50:31 | Soap | I'm hopeful for a nano size increase on the 12th. |
| 01:50:37 | Soap | yea, 2,44, and 8 |
| 01:50:41 | scorche | i doubt they are going to sub out the 1 gig for the 2 gig |
| 01:50:41 | Soap | *4 |
| 01:50:51 | scorche | they would most likely apologize and give you a shuffle |
| 01:51:08 | Soap | if the part is out of stock and the 2 arrives at the same price point....a boy can dream? |
| 01:51:22 | [HO]vo|t | yeah :) |
| 01:53:44 | * | Joey_D wants a 3g mini |
| 01:53:52 | * | Joey_D is dreaming |
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| 03:06:44 | Davide-NYC | is the new recording statusbar only for SWCODEC targets? |
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| 03:20:40 | Davide-NYC | question about the ico format, what do each of the hex values represent onscreen? |
| 03:20:45 | Davide-NYC | *icon |
| 03:22:15 | dionoea | columns i think |
| 03:22:41 | dionoea | bits are read as 0 for transparent / 1 for foreground color |
| 03:22:52 | dionoea | ico is 7*6 pixels i think |
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| 03:39:40 | Davide-NYC | interesting. any way to generate bitmaps from the code? |
| 03:39:49 | Davide-NYC | rb2bmp.exe? |
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| 05:30:45 | BigMac | anyone know how to rate a song in jclix? |
| 05:32:57 | scorche | BigMac: you should know better than to ask a question about an unsupported build in here =P |
| 05:33:09 | BigMac | i know i know |
| 05:33:16 | BigMac | when will i learn:-) |
| 05:33:27 | scorche | i had hoped you did already... |
| 05:33:55 | BigMac | well I did post on the forums about it so i have learned a little |
| 05:34:01 | scorche | yup |
| 05:34:03 | scorche | i saw |
| 05:34:08 | BigMac | just thought i'd ask to see if anyone would know |
| 05:34:11 | scorche | and in the right thread...i was so proud! |
| 05:34:11 | BigMac | :-) |
| 05:34:16 | BigMac | me to |
| 05:34:38 | BigMac | i was like should this go in the button mapping thread?? |
| 05:34:44 | BigMac | then i thought wwjd |
| 05:34:49 | BigMac | and found the right thread |
| 05:34:51 | scorche | jesus being paul |
| 05:34:53 | scorche | =P |
| 05:35:00 | BigMac | yup |
| 05:35:07 | scorche | hehe |
| 05:35:45 | BigMac | its amazing how the wpses have progressed |
| 05:35:52 | BigMac | in complexity |
| 05:36:25 | BigMac | from little text ones to jblackglass |
| 05:36:29 | BigMac | its amazing |
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| 05:52:41 | JdGordon | does anyone know if you can get the english version of a translatable string if another language is being used? |
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| 06:26:42 | Davide-NYC | anybody have a minute to help a drowning icon maker? |
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| 07:29:26 | aliask | Anyone know how to get the sim to be forwarded over SSH? (X forwarding) |
| 07:30:34 | JdGordon | ssh server -X ? |
| 07:31:33 | aliask | To a windows server. I think I've got it set up... I have xming running and I use putty with X forwarding enabled, and I've enabled x forwarding on sshd, just wondering if I'm missing anything |
| 07:31:57 | JdGordon | sounds right |
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| 07:33:24 | aliask | Oh wait, I dont have SDL :) |
| 07:33:46 | JdGordon | on which comp? |
| 07:34:08 | aliask | Server, I can't compile the sim. |
| 07:34:16 | JdGordon | haha.. dill :D |
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| 07:34:51 | aliask | Well... my name *IS* Will... |
| 07:35:06 | aliask | You could make a rhyme if you were feeling creative. |
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| 07:35:29 | JdGordon | was it you who was tokenising the wps code? |
| 07:36:10 | aliask | No... was it Mmmm? |
| 07:36:25 | JdGordon | i cant rmemeber :p |
| 07:36:47 | aliask | I've been working hard on my crappy ID3 tag editor. |
| 07:36:55 | JdGordon | hows it oging? |
| 07:37:07 | aliask | It can read/write id3v1.1 tags fine. |
| 07:37:48 | aliask | But I have no idea how to prepend data to a file, so V2 tags aren't happening yet. |
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| 07:38:31 | JdGordon | cant u open with with O_APPEND or something for that? |
| 07:39:01 | aliask | Wouldn't that stick it on the end? |
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| 07:39:13 | JdGordon | oh.. prepend :p i misread |
| 07:39:54 | aliask | Anyway, the plugin itself needs more work to make it prettier, and I should be studying for exams anyway. |
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| 07:55:39 | webguest62 | excuse me |
| 07:55:49 | webguest62 | i have a question with rockbox.. |
| 07:56:11 | webguest62 | my bootloader doesnt get my ipod |
| 07:56:21 | webguest62 | but my computer does.. |
| 07:56:47 | scorche | mind rephrasing? |
| 07:56:54 | webguest62 | the |
| 07:56:59 | webguest62 | bootloeader |
| 07:57:07 | webguest62 | doesnt get my ipod |
| 07:57:20 | scorche | i heard what you said |
| 07:57:24 | webguest62 | ye. |
| 07:57:30 | scorche | what do you mean by that though? |
| 07:57:47 | webguest62 | you know bootloeader right? |
| 07:57:52 | webguest62 | loader |
| 07:58:02 | scorche | yes...i know what the bootloader is... |
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| 07:58:24 | webguest62 | when i try to do it |
| 07:58:33 | scorche | do what? |
| 07:58:57 | webguest62 | to excess to it.. |
| 07:59:05 | webguest62 | i mean. to install the rockbox |
| 07:59:12 | scorche | install the bootloader? |
| 07:59:28 | webguest62 | ye |
| 07:59:50 | webguest62 | it come out like |
| 08:00 |
| 08:00:07 | webguest62 | error unfortunatley yout idpod drive name could not be found |
| 08:00:23 | webguest62 | im stuck with this for one week. |
| 08:01:27 | webguest62 | does anyone know how to solve it..? |
| 08:01:29 | webguest62 | plz.. |
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| 08:02:09 | scorche | well, it would help if you could explain clear enough to be able to understand you =) |
| 08:02:32 | webguest62 | ok.. |
| 08:02:59 | scorche | is english your primary language? |
| 08:03:06 | webguest62 | no.. |
| 08:03:09 | webguest62 | im korean..^^ |
| 08:03:26 | webguest62 | iPod Application Manager.bat |
| 08:03:30 | webguest62 | this thing |
| 08:03:38 | webguest62 | when i open it. |
| 08:03:53 | webguest62 | and click "next" |
| 08:04:03 | webguest62 | i has to recognize my ipod |
| 08:04:10 | webguest62 | but it doesn't |
| 08:04:22 | webguest62 | even though my itune and computer does |
| 08:05:30 | webguest62 | do you understand now??; |
| 08:07:59 | webguest62 | oh.plz.; |
| 08:09:27 | midkay | what on earth is that? |
| 08:09:34 | midkay | iPod Application Manager.bat? |
| 08:09:42 | webguest62 | yes.. |
| 08:09:48 | webguest62 | do you know? |
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| 08:10:32 | webguest62 | isn't it the program to download the rockbox? |
| 08:12:48 | midkay | download the rockbox? |
| 08:12:49 | midkay | where did you get it? |
| 08:13:27 | webguest62 | from korean cafe.. |
| 08:13:35 | webguest62 | like an rockbox cafe.. |
| 08:13:47 | webguest62 | iPod Application Manager.bat? |
| 08:13:49 | webguest62 | iPod Application Manager.bat? |
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| 08:13:49 | webguest62 | iPod Application Manager.bat? |
| 08:13:51 | scorche | there are rockbox cafes?!?!? |
| 08:13:59 | webguest62 | internet cafe. |
| 08:14:05 | scorche | =( |
| 08:14:22 | webguest62 | doesnt anybody know? |
| 08:14:40 | webguest62 | it don't can anyone tell me how to install rockbox to my ipod video? |
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| 08:16:03 | scorche | webguest62: we do not support unauthorized methods of installation...if you want help with your program, contact the creator of the program |
| 08:16:16 | scorche | regulat installation methods are available on our site |
| 08:16:30 | webguest62 | can you tell me where i can contact with the creator? |
| 08:16:45 | scorche | no...i have not heard of that program |
| 08:16:58 | webguest62 | rockbox? |
| 08:17:09 | scorche | what about it? |
| 08:17:23 | scorche | i am referring to your "iPod Application Manager.bat" |
| 08:17:26 | webguest62 | you don;t know rockbox? is that what you said?;; |
| 08:17:34 | webguest62 | ok |
| 08:17:35 | webguest62 | sorry.; |
| 08:17:49 | webguest62 | then.. how did you install rockbox.? |
| 08:18:00 | scorche | the way dictated on the site |
| 08:18:04 | scorche | www.rockbox.org |
| 08:18:59 | webguest62 | thank you.. |
| 08:19:17 | webguest62 | \ how can i type this.. "\" |
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| 08:20:53 | scorche | i do not know the format of korean keyboards... |
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| 08:31:58 | dongs | what. |
| 08:33:03 | dongs | okay. |
| 08:33:08 | dongs | lol @ rockbox people pagea. |
| 08:33:32 | scorche | thats nice.. |
| 08:37:42 | dongs | does everyone who load it get a free core2duo which is needed to render that google map overlay of 1300 people? |
| 08:38:27 | scorche | are you done trolling yet? |
| 08:38:34 | dongs | nope, i havent started. |
| 08:38:39 | dongs | have you opened that page yourself sir? |
| 08:38:46 | scorche | i have |
| 08:39:02 | midkay | you're complaining because there are people on it? and if there weren't you'd complain that it was empty.. just shut it. |
| 08:39:02 | dongs | and its fast and snappy? |
| 08:39:45 | midkay | it's not fast and snappy, it's certainly usable.. |
| 08:40:32 | scorche | only takes about 12-13 seconds for it to load for me... |
| 08:40:55 | scorche | i have been to other sites that are much worse |
| 08:41:40 | dongs | digg.com? |
| 08:41:42 | dongs | ha ha ha |
| 08:42:20 | scorche | you are extremely funny... |
| 08:42:22 | scorche | done yet? |
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| 08:43:16 | webguest02 | can someone help me out? |
| 08:43:26 | webguest02 | i am having wicked probs with rockbox |
| 08:43:34 | dongs | youre not the only one |
| 08:43:38 | scorche | it would help to know what they are |
| 08:43:43 | scorche | dongs: shut it |
| 08:44:13 | webguest02 | installed the newest update..all songs are poofed...still shows a full drive..but cant find any songs |
| 08:44:25 | webguest02 | used tagcache and it updated..still wont show them |
| 08:44:35 | webguest02 | rebooted ....still no files |
| 08:45:01 | webguest02 | showing 25 gigs free on a 60 gig ipod |
| 08:45:39 | midkay | are they in the hidden iPod_Control folder? and are you in ID3 Database browse mode? |
| 08:46:37 | webguest02 | whoa...killer..slow up..first..how do i show id3 browse mode? |
| 08:47:44 | webguest02 | ok...in id3 now..but still no tunes |
| 08:47:56 | webguest02 | oh wait..updated..now..i lied |
| 08:48:03 | webguest02 | i apparently have tunes now ) |
| 08:48:11 | midkay | that's how you "use" tagcache. |
| 08:48:43 | webguest02 | cool thanks...now maybe i can get a decent theme on here |
| 08:49:08 | midkay | good luck.. |
| 08:49:09 | webguest02 | any other good websites for themes other than the rockbox-theme site? |
| 08:49:16 | midkay | the wiki and forums.. |
| 08:49:40 | webguest02 | yeah..cool..think i have what i want then..thanks ) been red in the face for an hour |
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| 08:50:25 | itsmeguys|away | hello |
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| 08:52:17 | itsmeguys|away | i need some help |
| 08:52:28 | itsmeguys|away | whenever i create a wps, it doesnt show the background i want it to |
| 08:53:54 | itsmeguys|away | it says on the screen the screen |
| 08:53:59 | itsmeguys|away | bground.bmp| |
| 08:54:00 | itsmeguys|away | 14 |
| 08:54:10 | itsmeguys|away | and then the song |
| 08:54:16 | itsmeguys|away | it is a very simple wps, i am just starting out |
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| 09:05:01 | itsmeguys|away | dw |
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| 09:07:15 | dishnecto | hey can someone help me |
| 09:07:33 | dishnecto | how can i watch videos on the rock box |
| 09:11:23 | lex | convert them to the right format and watch them |
| 09:11:39 | lex | http://files.evot.us/mpeg2encoding.txt that's for nanos |
| 09:11:44 | dishnecto | witch one |
| 09:11:53 | dishnecto | ipod format or rvf |
| 09:11:59 | lex | mpeg-2 |
| 09:12:20 | dishnecto | i did i put them in my ipod video |
| 09:12:43 | lex | then just watch them |
| 09:12:48 | dishnecto | it say's loading then nothing comes |
| 09:15:12 | dishnecto | ooh its mpeg-4 |
| 09:15:17 | lex | yep yep |
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| 09:27:56 | billytwowilly | is there any work on supporting mpeg-4/divx? |
| 09:28:10 | dishnecto | wait to play the video does it matter what theme u chose |
| 09:30:14 | lex | billytwowilly: it's not possible to decode it without the ipod video's chip |
| 09:30:22 | lex | billytwowilly: so maybe in future - only for video |
| 09:30:32 | lex | dishnecto: nope |
| 09:31:19 | billytwowilly | hmm. |
| 09:31:45 | billytwowilly | do you know if the ipod's chip just supports the avc part of the mpeg-4 spec, or does it do the other part too? |
| 09:32:29 | lex | nope :< |
| 09:32:30 | billytwowilly | hmm. looks like it should if it's muxed into mp4 properly.. |
| 09:32:49 | billytwowilly | lame. |
| 09:32:50 | billytwowilly | oh well. |
| 09:34:30 | billytwowilly | interesting. |
| 09:34:47 | billytwowilly | according to the forum there is a port of the xvid codec out for rockbox, but it's huge. |
| 09:35:24 | lex | :O |
| 09:36:15 | billytwowilly | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5841.0 |
| 09:36:32 | billytwowilly | near the bottom of the first page. |
| 09:37:14 | lex | hmm |
| 09:39:42 | dishnecto | i put a mp4- video file on root it does not work |
| 09:39:46 | dishnecto | need some help |
| 09:40:06 | dishnecto | do i need codec or somthin elzz to make it work |
| 09:40:10 | billytwowilly | it won't play.. |
| 09:40:14 | billytwowilly | it's mp4. |
| 09:40:20 | billytwowilly | needs to be mpeg2 stream |
| 09:40:23 | billytwowilly | .m2v |
| 09:40:34 | billytwowilly | ie no audio included, just mpeg 2 video stream... |
| 09:40:35 | dishnecto | yeaa thats what u use to play on a ipod |
| 09:40:36 | billytwowilly | I think. |
| 09:40:40 | billytwowilly | I've been wrong before... |
| 09:40:42 | dishnecto | mp4 format |
| 09:40:51 | billytwowilly | just ask scorche;) |
| 09:40:59 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 09:40:59 | * | scorche ahems |
| 09:41:16 | * | billytwowilly thought it was scorche anyway |
| 09:41:23 | * | billytwowilly has a bad memory for names |
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| 09:41:37 | scorche | i was one of the 2 that one occasion, yes |
| 09:41:56 | dishnecto | ok what do i use to format to mv2 |
| 09:42:04 | lex | dishnecto: apple's os plays mpeg-4s, rockbox plays mpeg-2s |
| 09:42:06 | dishnecto | m2v* |
| 09:42:07 | billytwowilly | I don't know. |
| 09:42:17 | lex | dishnecto: http://files.evot.us/mpeg2encoding.txt |
| 09:42:21 | lex | but... |
| 09:42:25 | billytwowilly | no sound... |
| 09:42:29 | dishnecto | thankz |
| 09:42:35 | linuxstb | dishnecto: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 09:42:42 | scorche | dishnecto: have you looked at the mpegplayer wikipa......yeah... |
| 09:42:50 | dishnecto | no sound then whatz the point of that |
| 09:42:56 | lex | change that scale=176:128 to scale=320:240 |
| 09:43:00 | scorche | it is a work in progress |
| 09:43:06 | dishnecto | ooh kk |
| 09:43:07 | lex | dishnecto: it started a month ago |
| 09:43:15 | dishnecto | i c |
| 09:43:22 | linuxstb | Was it that long? |
| 09:43:37 | scorche | almost |
| 09:43:47 | linuxstb | Damn, I've been neglecting it... |
| 09:43:58 | scorche | i remember that it was while i was at defcon that it happened |
| 09:46:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: The initial mpegplayer commit is dated 7 Aug |
| 09:46:54 | billytwowilly | you went to defcon? |
| 09:47:20 | billytwowilly | did you unplug the batteries to all your electronics and lock them in a safe at a bank in your home time before you went?;) |
| 09:47:54 | scorche | hah..not quite |
| 09:48:31 | billytwowilly | forcibly remove all the input devices from your laptop, pda, etc? |
| 09:49:08 | scorche | it isnt that bad...you just have to know how to secure your things...which if you dont, you dont deserve to be there anyway =P |
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| 09:50:12 | billytwowilly | heh. |
| 09:50:33 | billytwowilly | you can spot the feds because the are talking into cell phones encased in condoms... |
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| 09:51:06 | billytwowilly | holy crap. renderman was scheduled to talk. |
| 09:51:12 | billytwowilly | I know that dude. |
| 09:51:19 | scorche | as do i |
| 09:51:46 | billytwowilly | he's from my home town. Edmonton |
| 09:51:49 | billytwowilly | awesome. |
| 09:52:28 | billytwowilly | I haven't seen him in a couple years. Not since I stopped going to elug meetings. He used to idle on #edmonton-lug on here though. |
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| 10:13:18 | dan_a | linuxstb: I see you had some success with the coprocessor yesterday :) |
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| 10:16:41 | linuxstb | dan_a: Sort of... It looks like a bootloader issue. |
| 10:16:47 | dongs | hrm? |
| 10:17:04 | Bagder | dan_a: cvs [update aborted]: cannot write CVS/Entries.Backup: No space left on device |
| 10:17:20 | Bagder | on your build server |
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| 10:24:43 | linuxstb | Anyone know the maximum number of PCM samples in an MPEG audio frame? |
| 10:25:08 | Bagder | no clue here |
| 10:25:24 | billytwowilly | out of curiousity.. if I wanted to speed up the sansa e200 port who would be the best person to send a sansa e200 to? |
| 10:26:09 | Bagder | if I knew that, I'd send one too |
| 10:26:12 | dan_a | Bagder: Yes, I saw that. Can you do a "du -hs" in your ~rbclient directory? |
| 10:28:09 | Bagder | I think a problem is that the build script doesn't do make clean after a build |
| 10:28:19 | dan_a | linuxstb: I'll have a look at the IPL sources and see what they do differently |
| 10:28:21 | Bagder | so it'll gather up quite some amount of files |
| 10:28:26 | Bagder | du -sh |
| 10:28:26 | Bagder | 1.7G. |
| 10:28:32 | linuxstb | dan_a: My ~rbclient directory is 956MB |
| 10:28:36 | dan_a | Eeek |
| 10:28:50 | linuxstb | I guess ccache doesn't help either. |
| 10:28:57 | dan_a | I'd allocated a 200Mb tmpfs partition |
| 10:29:08 | Bagder | no ccache takes some 800MB by default I think |
| 10:29:19 | Bagder | I mean up to 800 |
| 10:29:35 | linuxstb | dan_a: What spec is your PC? |
| 10:29:44 | linuxstb | (CPU & RAM) |
| 10:30:32 | dan_a | Athlon XP 2400+, 512Mb RAM |
| 10:30:36 | dongs | lol, amd |
| 10:30:38 | JdGordon | morning Bagder, am i right that the sim packages are not sent back to the main server? |
| 10:30:48 | Bagder | yes |
| 10:30:56 | linuxstb | dan_a: But the good news about the COP is that it seems to work fine in Rockbox itself - I've got mpegplayer decoding video on the COP without problems. |
| 10:31:08 | Bagder | JdGordon: so if you can build sim packages fast, you're welcome! ;-) |
| 10:31:21 | dan_a | Bagder: I'll try adding a "make veryclean" to the end of the build script, if that's alright |
| 10:31:30 | Bagder | dongs: amd rocks the builds |
| 10:31:30 | dan_a | linuxstb: Excellent! |
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| 10:31:44 | Bagder | dan_a: you can't do that easily... |
| 10:31:50 | Bagder | since the master gets the zip |
| 10:31:53 | linuxstb | dan_a: The problem is that I need to run Rockbox directly - i.e. instead of a bootloader. |
| 10:31:56 | JdGordon | Bagder: do u want to try my comp again and not have any of the cross compilers in the path and see if it helps? |
| 10:32:07 | JdGordon | .. so it will only compile the sim |
| 10:32:16 | Bagder | JdGordon: I can certainly add it and we can see how it runs |
| 10:32:32 | Bagder | JdGordon: jdgordon.homeip.net still, right? |
| 10:32:43 | JdGordon | no |
| 10:35:07 | amiconn | My /home/rbclient dir is 1.5GB |
| 10:35:17 | dan_a | linuxstb: I assume that since IPL use the COP, they must know how to set it up in the bootloader, even on PP5020 |
| 10:35:35 | dongs | oh wow |
| 10:35:40 | dongs | sansa looks fucking hot |
| 10:36:17 | linuxstb | dan_a: Yes, I've looked at their code, but can't see anything different. I'm planning on trying ipodloader2 (after I change it to load Rockbox the new way) and see if that works. |
| 10:38:41 | dan_a | I'm off out now, but I'll have a look at the COP stuff and at the build script when I get back. |
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| 10:40:51 | JdGordon | Bagder: ok, im just makgin sure the rbclient can build the sim, and im testing how long it takes |
| 10:40:59 | Bagder | ok |
| 10:41:20 | Bagder | its just a few keystrokes for me to re-add you in the loop |
| 10:41:27 | JdGordon | :) |
| 10:43:19 | Bagder | dongs: its a neat thing but hard to figure out ;-) |
| 10:43:28 | dongs | what is |
| 10:43:31 | Bagder | the sansa |
| 10:43:32 | dongs | the player? |
| 10:43:37 | dongs | whats wrong with it with default firmware? |
| 10:43:42 | dongs | it seems to support drag n drop mp3s |
| 10:43:49 | scorche | it isnt rockbox =) |
| 10:43:55 | Bagder | original firmware is plain wrong ;-) |
| 10:44:06 | dongs | i bet it skips to next song in repeat1 mode hwen you click 'next track' though. |
| 10:44:15 | Bagder | I wouldn't know |
| 10:44:16 | dongs | so it cant be all that wrong. |
| 10:44:38 | scorche | haha...you are still stuck on that? |
| 10:44:44 | dongs | 'stuck'? |
| 10:44:48 | Bagder | well its lots of gui and things |
| 10:44:48 | dongs | well the bug wasnt fixed so |
| 10:44:58 | billytwowilly | dongs: the default firmware doesn't have bookmarks |
| 10:45:04 | Bagder | I bet if you like big pictures with many colors in the interface, you'll love the sansa |
| 10:45:13 | dongs | bookmarks? |
| 10:45:18 | billytwowilly | yah. |
| 10:45:19 | * | dongs has never heard/used such feature |
| 10:45:31 | * | billytwowilly listens to a lot of audio books. |
| 10:45:35 | scorche | Bagder: is anyone working on making it viable in the sim yet? |
| 10:45:36 | dongs | ah those. |
| 10:45:38 | billytwowilly | basically, a bookmark lets you save your place. |
| 10:46:01 | Bagder | scorche: dan_a said he had it running locally so I'm expecting him to commit those fixes |
| 10:46:13 | scorche | ah |
| 10:46:19 | billytwowilly | then restart later when you want to.. pretty handy when an mp3 is 5 hours long. |
| 10:46:26 | dongs | yeeh. |
| 10:46:28 | scorche | drat...i was thinking about doing that =) |
| 10:46:33 | dongs | definitely not anything I'd ever need. |
| 10:46:33 | Bagder | haha |
| 10:47:01 | Bagder | scorche: you could get the LCD going instead then ;-P |
| 10:47:05 | dongs | its a portalplayer chipset so i dont see why lunixfgts not support it |
| 10:47:12 | dongs | and therefor rockbox as well |
| 10:47:18 | Bagder | lunixfgts? |
| 10:47:27 | JdGordon | Bagder: i just did h300-sim in about the same time as byzantium.homedns.org ~300s |
| 10:47:32 | scorche | Bagder: what is involved with that? |
| 10:48:23 | Bagder | scorche: disassembling bootloader, reading asm, trying to poke around, rebuilding test firmwares to see... |
| 10:48:39 | Bagder | again and again |
| 10:48:53 | scorche | heh...that would require actually having the device i assume |
| 10:49:04 | Bagder | dongs: you don't know much about these embedded things, do you? |
| 10:49:51 | Bagder | btw, does IPL work on anything non-ipod yet? |
| 10:50:05 | JdGordon | Bagder: i mean 200s |
| 10:50:09 | scorche | not that i know of |
| 10:50:34 | amiconn | Bagder: I guess they won't render their name inappropriate ;) |
| 10:50:47 | amiconn | s/won'T/don't want/ |
| 10:50:49 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:51:17 | Bagder | they should've gone "pplinux" ;-) |
| 10:51:29 | scorche | Bagder: happen to know of things to do if one does not have the device? |
| 10:52:05 | Bagder | scorche: nah, then there's basically fixing the simulator and then making sure the keymapping all over is sensible |
| 10:52:17 | JdGordon | amiconn: did u see my email a few days ago? |
| 10:52:37 | scorche | =( |
| 10:53:13 | scorche | i guess i could work on keymapping.. |
| 10:53:23 | Bagder | JdGordon: so what's your host name, let's give it another test |
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| 10:54:00 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu, but ive reformatted since then so i need the pubkey and acbuildpl script again |
| 10:55:04 | dongs | billytwowilly: sounds like sandisk contracted some rockbox developers to do a port, whcih will be closed-sores, the developers were/will be paid a fair amount to keep their mouths shut, and to avoid possible stink about GPL violations. more news as it becomes available. |
| 10:55:06 | scorche | awww...my cat loves me...another mouse for me to throw out |
| 10:55:37 | billytwowilly | lol |
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| 10:55:40 | billytwowilly | dong is hilarious |
| 10:55:43 | Bagder | dongs: you're always full of crap |
| 10:55:47 | scorche | he was |
| 10:55:55 | scorche | but recently, he has just been annoying |
| 10:56:01 | dongs | thats the impression i get after reading the sansa thread on rockbox forums. |
| 10:56:09 | dongs | just putting two and two together. |
| 10:56:17 | Bagder | yeah, using your twisted mind |
| 10:56:24 | scorche | together to get 3... |
| 10:56:24 | dongs | incorrect. |
| 10:56:25 | dongs | bbl |
| 10:57:36 | Bagder | dongs: I am the guy who's in contact with SanDisk |
| 10:57:42 | Bagder | I think I know what's going on |
| 10:58:02 | Bagder | or possibly they're all just voices in my head |
| 10:58:06 | scorche | wait a tic...he used the term "closed-sores"....how uncharacteristic of him |
| 10:58:21 | * | billytwowilly bets on insanity |
| 10:58:26 | scorche | i thought he loved closed source.. |
| 10:58:36 | billytwowilly | heh |
| 10:58:44 | billytwowilly | I thought you meant he usually has open sores |
| 10:58:49 | Bagder | he's just one of our channel trolls |
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| 10:59:31 | amiconn | JdGordon: I read it now. The a-b repeat actions missing for recorder is clearly a mistake introduced with actions. A-B repeat was possible on recorders before |
| 10:59:49 | amiconn | I didn't notice because I never actually use a-b repeat |
| 10:59:54 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 11:00:44 | amiconn | The lastbutton variables should of cause be removed where they are no longer needed |
| 11:01:14 | JdGordon | so then i really dont know where the dead code you suspect is... |
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| 11:06:33 | dongs | Bagder: so how much are they paying you to keep from making a working port? :D |
| 11:06:37 | dongs | or is that under NDA too |
| 11:06:57 | Bagder | actually, I'm thinking of banning you |
| 11:07:01 | dongs | i see |
| 11:07:11 | dongs | well, im off until something new happens with rockbox on ipod |
| 11:07:16 | Bagder | to stop your stupidness from showing here |
| 11:07:38 | Bagder | I can't be much more open about the SanDisk connection |
| 11:07:47 | Bagder | and you know that |
| 11:08:11 | JdGordon | yay! ban him :D |
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| 11:21:26 | Slasheri | hehe, now it's possible to see sleeping and running tasks marked in the debug menu.. :) |
| 11:21:32 | Slasheri | new scheduler almost ready |
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| 12:10:04 | JdGordon | does anyone here have the non-lcd remote for the irivers? |
| 12:18:09 | * | bluebrother spotted a broken black h120 on ebay |
| 12:19:29 | Slasheri | hmm, this new debug menu is nice. It shows initially that dircache is active, then tagcache and finally all threads except codec thread are in sleep |
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| 12:21:24 | preglow | Slasheri: new scheduler? |
| 12:21:54 | Slasheri | preglow: basically, or it uses now two separate two-way linked lists for running and sleeping processes |
| 12:22:06 | preglow | hah |
| 12:22:11 | preglow | i've been thinking about that myself |
| 12:22:37 | Slasheri | i think will commit that as soon as i have verified it wont break everything |
| 12:22:55 | Slasheri | at least iriver seems to be working very fine |
| 12:23:29 | amiconn | Slasheri: Your thread.c change yesterday was mostly for the better. It reduced binary size. The only slightly worse change it did was to increase iram usage (now the whole struct is in iram). |
| 12:23:30 | preglow | how will it affect performance/code size? |
| 12:23:34 | JdGordon | isnt the picth screen relativly new?? why the hec wasnt it done with the multi-screen api!!? |
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| 12:23:51 | preglow | JdGordon: timid didn't get that far before vanishing |
| 12:24:00 | linuxstb | JdGordon: The pitch screen existed on the Archos devices |
| 12:24:02 | amiconn | Nothing breaks in mainline builds because of this, but it might break debug builds on archos (debug builds need slightly more iram) |
| 12:24:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, sounds good :) that's true that iram usage was slightly increased.. |
| 12:24:15 | JdGordon | oh ok.. i guess i know what ill fix tonight then :p |
| 12:24:36 | amiconn | It's only 128 bytes, but then the whole iram on SH7034 is only 4KB... |
| 12:24:44 | Slasheri | preglow: performance should be little better with the new scheduler as unnecessary context switches have been eliminated. but i haven't verified that yet |
| 12:24:53 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, that's bad |
| 12:25:00 | amiconn | I still wonder what you're trying to achieve with a new scheduler |
| 12:25:06 | Slasheri | at least the new scheduler would increase iram usage even more |
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| 12:25:28 | amiconn | The current scheduler is small, simple, stable and predicatble |
| 12:25:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: have u thought about doing a slimmed down version of rockbox for bootbox? i.e without tagcache/ab/pitch screens to get it under size again? |
| 12:25:50 | amiconn | JdGordon: ?? |
| 12:25:56 | Slasheri | amiconn: priorities could be nice to add it.. that would eliminate audio skipping if background processes does not yield often enough |
| 12:26:17 | JdGordon | bootbox for the FM so the bin is small enough again |
| 12:26:26 | Jason | is somebody working on that iriver h20 lcd bug? |
| 12:26:34 | amiconn | Bootbox already is a slimmed-down verison |
| 12:26:47 | JdGordon | oh.. |
| 12:26:47 | linuxstb | Jason: I believe there's a patch in the patch tracker to fix it. |
| 12:26:51 | amiconn | It's essentially what the bootloader is for iriver etc builds |
| 12:27:30 | amiconn | Hmm, you perhaps mean rombox |
| 12:27:58 | JdGordon | yes, thats probably what i mean |
| 12:28:04 | amiconn | It wouldn't make sense to trim that |
| 12:28:05 | Jason | linuxstb: where can i find that patch tracker? |
| 12:28:30 | bluebrother | Jason, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker |
| 12:28:49 | amiconn | Rombox was introduced to save RAM when running rockbox. If one has to sacrifice features for that, he probably wouldn't want to run it that way |
| 12:28:51 | bluebrother | or have a look at the menu on the homepage −− "patches" |
| 12:28:53 | Jason | thank you |
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| 12:30:15 | amiconn | Slasheri: Other threads not yielding often enough is a design problem in those threads, not in the scheduler |
| 12:30:45 | amiconn | Making the scheduler more complicated to work around that is a step in the wrong direction imo |
| 12:30:48 | Jason | nothing like that there |
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| 12:31:53 | Slasheri | amiconn: not excactly. For example if tagcache yields quite often and with high bitrate audio files are skipping, we would need to significantly sacrifice tagcache performance and yield even more often for audio not to skip |
| 12:32:18 | Slasheri | and it's not possible to know how often yielding is enough |
| 12:32:22 | Slasheri | because that will vary |
| 12:32:46 | JdGordon | so the new schedular can kick off naughty threads? |
| 12:33:17 | Slasheri | JdGordon: it just wont give cpu time to threads until higher priority threads are in sleep |
| 12:33:21 | amiconn | Priorities will introduce a whole bunch of problems while very probably it won't solve the skipping problems |
| 12:33:34 | Slasheri | so yield() wouldn't call necessary all threads |
| 12:33:36 | JdGordon | Slasheri: ah, ok |
| 12:33:42 | amiconn | You can't give the UI thread a low priority since if you do, the UI will feel sluggish |
| 12:34:15 | amiconn | But the UI thread is most often the cause of skipping because of not yielding often enough |
| 12:35:35 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, i will do some testing to see if it would (not) work |
| 12:35:40 | amiconn | If you introduce absolute priorities the way it sounds, you can easily starve threads, which must not happen |
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| 12:36:55 | preglow | it's worth a try |
| 12:37:09 | JdGordon | cant you up the ui thread's priority if it does start getting starved? |
| 12:38:28 | amiconn | The starving is more problematic for background threads. The ui thread has to be set to a high priority anyway because of the ui feeling sluggish otherwise |
| 12:38:37 | Slasheri | hmm, in fact we need to choice between UI becoming sluggish when buffer is running out or audio skipping |
| 12:39:02 | Slasheri | i don't think it's possible to satisfy both |
| 12:39:10 | JdGordon | sluggish ui would proablby be better... |
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| 12:42:09 | Slasheri | hmm, one way to do it could be to set codec threads priority at runtime above the ui thread if buffer is getting really slow |
| 12:42:18 | Slasheri | and set it back when buffer is safe again |
| 12:42:59 | perplexity | JdGordon: still after someone with an iriver non-lcd remote ? |
| 12:43:20 | JdGordon | perplexity: ye, does the quick and pitch screens both work correclty? |
| 12:43:35 | perplexity | dunno.. let me compile cvs and test.. |
| 12:43:41 | JdGordon | cheers |
| 12:46:56 | amiconn | Slasheri: One possible problem with priorites: Let there be 2 threads, A and B. A has a high priority, B a low priority. Thread A starts an action (e.g. via message) that needs to be executed by thread B and then yields and waits for thread B to return the result, but A doesn't call sleep() because it wants to continue immediately when the result is ready. |
| 12:47:31 | amiconn | What will happen? The scheduler won't run thread B because thread A has a higher priority and didn't go to sleep, so A will wait forever |
| 12:47:40 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, that's true indeed.. |
| 12:48:00 | amiconn | Only one example from the priority can of worms... |
| 12:49:53 | amiconn | A very similar problem arises with mutexes |
| 12:50:03 | Slasheri | but mutexes do sleep |
| 12:50:12 | preglow | absolute priorities won't work |
| 12:50:16 | preglow | that's for certain |
| 12:50:54 | amiconn | Ok, if mutexes do sleep, they shouldn't cause that problem |
| 12:52:08 | Slasheri | amiconn: in fact all kernel calls sleep (if those can block) |
| 12:53:15 | amiconn | Yes, queue_wait() does as well |
| 12:53:36 | amiconn | But not all communication is done via kernel calls iirc |
| 12:53:37 | JdGordon | screen->width is in chars or pixels (for non char cell screens) ? |
| 12:55:41 | JdGordon | damn, it looks like its in pixels.. |
| 12:55:42 | bluey- | http://ultrasonic-ringtones.com/ <- how serios is that thing :P ? |
| 12:55:59 | thegeek | 1000% |
| 12:56:03 | amiconn | JdGordon: How could that be in chars (for bitmap displays)? |
| 12:56:36 | JdGordon | for some reason i thought you could get the width in chars to make things easier :p |
| 12:58:38 | perplexity | JdGordon: help :) I can get into the pitch screen with the remote play button held down, I can do what I think is the correct behaviour altering the pitch.. I can't get out again with the remote |
| 12:59:20 | fah | does iboy work on rockbox on the nano yet? |
| 12:59:57 | linuxstb | fah: iboy is an ipodlinux application. |
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| 13:00:46 | fah | oh.. rockboy i meant then. sorry. |
| 13:01:12 | amiconn | JdGordon: You simply can't give a bitmap display's width in chars. Font sizes can vary, and then there are proportional fonts... |
| 13:01:23 | JdGordon | perplexity: stop doesnt do it? |
| 13:01:35 | perplexity | There is no stop button on the remote.. |
| 13:01:42 | JdGordon | amiconn: ye, i guess that makes sense... |
| 13:01:45 | linuxstb | fah: Then no, no Nano user has made it work yet. |
| 13:01:54 | JdGordon | i must have thought it was initialized again after a font change |
| 13:02:31 | JdGordon | perplexity: is there a mode button on the remote? |
| 13:02:49 | perplexity | nope.. play. ff, rew, vol+, vol-, hold |
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| 13:07:12 | JdGordon | perplexity: is there only one non-lcd remote for iviers? |
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| 13:08:15 | perplexity | JdGordon: Not sure, I only know the one I have.. came with my 3x0. I'd like to get my hands on an LCD remote, but too lazy to search e-bay :) |
| 13:08:33 | bluebrother | JdGordon, afaik there is only one non-lcd remote. |
| 13:09:03 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:09:43 | amiconn | hmpf |
| 13:10:04 | * | amiconn just had that odd playback start bug happening again on h140 |
| 13:10:23 | JdGordon | perplexity: does the quick screen work correclty? |
| 13:10:31 | JdGordon | apart from not being able to exit.. |
| 13:10:52 | perplexity | JdGordon: how do I get into it ? (I've got TFM in front of me but can't find it) |
| 13:11:08 | amiconn | Sometimes trying to start playback loads the wps, starts buffering etc but actual playback doesn't start and the wps doesn't advance, even though it's not paused |
| 13:11:20 | JdGordon | perplexity: hold a-b on the main unit.. |
| 13:11:33 | amiconn | Sometimes stopping and restarting helps, but this time I had to reboot |
| 13:11:36 | bluebrother | amiconn, I have this behaviour after a usb connection |
| 13:12:04 | bluebrother | the audio thread shows pcm empty while the codec is filled. |
| 13:12:06 | perplexity | JdGordon: yes, it appears to work correctly.. I figured if I could edit it on the remote I must have been able to get into it on the remote.. |
| 13:12:23 | bluebrother | in my case only rebooting helps |
| 13:12:30 | JdGordon | no, its not setup to.. i guess not enough buttons |
| 13:12:57 | perplexity | JdGordon: it's pretty bereft of function actually.. but it does enough to poke it in yer pocket.. |
| 13:13:09 | JdGordon | perplexity: all 3 funcitons on the quickscreen work? |
| 13:13:17 | perplexity | JdGordon: yep |
| 13:13:20 | JdGordon | the code suggests that repeat mode doesnt |
| 13:13:23 | JdGordon | but ok.. |
| 13:14:52 | JdGordon | perplexity: can i send u a new keymap fie to try? |
| 13:15:18 | perplexity | JdGordon: sure.. if you are lucky, my dcc might even work :) |
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| 13:15:47 | JdGordon | i dont tinhk mine does tho, email in pm? |
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| 13:19:12 | Lear | Annoying... The encoders break the profile builds. |
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| 13:20:06 | Lear | Adding a call to codec_init would be needed. Anyone who knows if that could cause problems? (Don't see how myself, but...) |
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| 13:24:30 | JdGordon | hey, sound works in the sim! |
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| 13:29:22 | daurn|laptop | hey all |
| 13:30:24 | perplexity | JdGordon: I can now exit the quick menu with a single press on play/pause. The +/- 2% temp pitch bend no longer functions and it takes a long press of play/pause to exit the pitch screen |
| 13:31:26 | perplexity | JdGordon: the vol+/- buttons used to pitch bend and the |< >| buttons used to +/- 2%, now the vol do nothing and the |< >| pitch bend.. |
| 13:31:49 | JdGordon | ok, fixed |
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| 13:42:49 | * | preglow kicks flac |
| 13:43:02 | aliask | Take that! |
| 13:51:12 | amiconn | preglow: ? |
| 13:51:32 | amiconn | I thought you like how well flac is working in rockbox? |
| 13:51:57 | preglow | amiconn: i did, until i tried 24 bit flacs |
| 13:52:10 | preglow | amiconn: it struggles at 125 mhz at the worst parts in the file. |
| 13:52:11 | preglow | ... |
| 13:52:58 | preglow | i'll try making a 64 bit wide lpc routine when i'm home again |
| 13:53:24 | amiconn | Hmm. What's the point in playing 24bit flac anyway? |
| 13:53:34 | amiconn | The audio hw only outputs 16 bits |
| 13:53:49 | preglow | because the file is 24 bit |
| 13:53:56 | preglow | i don't transcode my music unless i absolutely hve to |
| 13:53:59 | preglow | have to |
| 13:54:03 | amiconn | Hmm |
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| 13:54:16 | preglow | this isn't my own rip, of course |
| 13:54:16 | * | amiconn thinks storing music in 24bit is a waste |
| 13:54:25 | amiconn | For production it's another thing. |
| 13:54:38 | preglow | it's a high quality rip of a rare vinyl, so the ripper probably wanted to make it as high quality as he could |
| 13:54:47 | preglow | i understand the notion |
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| 13:55:39 | amiconn | preglow: I bet it's 96kHz as well? |
| 13:56:01 | preglow | amiconn: nope, actually it's 44.1khz |
| 13:56:04 | preglow | which is a bit weird... |
| 13:56:09 | daurn|laptop | i wish all music was in 24bit - 96kHz |
| 13:56:09 | | Part kex |
| 13:56:16 | daurn|laptop | and i had a faster net connection |
| 13:56:21 | preglow | i'm just fine with 16 bit 44.1khz |
| 13:56:48 | groug | I don't know if it's the good place to ask questions about compiling rockbox |
| 13:56:56 | * | daurn|laptop wonders why the warez groups still (mostly) use 128kbps 44khz |
| 13:57:40 | preglow | they don't |
| 13:57:58 | daurn|laptop | they don't? |
| 13:57:58 | Galois | 128k vorbis is actually pretty good |
| 13:58:14 | amiconn | Hmm, that reminds me |
| 13:58:33 | amiconn | I should do a comparison test vorbis vs. mp3 in rockbox |
| 13:58:45 | preglow | amiconn: you mean for quality? |
| 13:58:49 | amiconn | I have one album as vorbis. It sounds muddy |
| 13:59:01 | preglow | what bitrate/encoder? |
| 13:59:15 | amiconn | ...but it has a higher bitrate than average lame −−preset standard encoding |
| 13:59:17 | amiconn | s |
| 13:59:30 | preglow | all vorbis files should be tagged with the encoder used |
| 13:59:33 | amiconn | I don't know the encoder, got it as vorbis. Bitrate is ~230kbps |
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| 13:59:53 | Slasheri | hmm, now running rockbox with relative priority based scheduler and testing :) |
| 13:59:56 | amiconn | preglow: Hmm, how can I check that? |
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| 14:00:01 | Galois | lame is the best of the mp3 encoders. it's hardly fair to compare the best mp3 with an unknown vorbis encoder. |
| 14:00:06 | preglow | amiconn: all players i know of displays it |
| 14:00:18 | preglow | amiconn: usually in the metadata screen |
| 14:01:15 | preglow | man, flac sucks for 24 bit audio |
| 14:01:24 | preglow | it compresses badly as well |
| 14:01:53 | bluebrother | you can find the encoder in the first bytes of the file. |
| 14:01:54 | banan | Galois: what vorbis encoder are you talking about ? |
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| 14:02:10 | preglow | Galois: there's only one vorbis encoder |
| 14:02:16 | amiconn | preglow: deliplayer doesn't display that kind of info |
| 14:02:23 | preglow | Galois: but there is plenty of material around encoded with old versions |
| 14:02:27 | Galois | aotuv beta 4 is the one that all the tests use |
| 14:02:51 | Galois | I use aotuv beta 4.51 |
| 14:02:52 | bluey- | is it true that the latest aotuv beats musepack ? |
| 14:02:53 | bluebrother | e.g. I have here "libVorbis I 20040629" starting at 0x7b in the file |
| 14:02:56 | Galois | yes |
| 14:03:15 | preglow | amiconn: just hexedit the file |
| 14:03:19 | preglow | amiconn: it's in the tag info in the start |
| 14:03:27 | Galois | the official, xiph.org vorbis encoder is aotuv beta 2 |
| 14:03:40 | bluey- | another reason to switch in the feature from musepack to vorbis |
| 14:03:42 | amiconn | libVorbis I 20030909 |
| 14:04:06 | preglow | amiconn: that should be decent |
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| 14:04:12 | Galois | it isn't decent |
| 14:04:33 | preglow | why not? |
| 14:04:39 | Lear | That |
| 14:04:47 | Lear | 's Vorbis 1.0.1... |
| 14:04:48 | Galois | I mean, it's probably better than any 2003-era lame version, but things have progressed a lot |
| 14:04:55 | preglow | not in high bitrates |
| 14:05:05 | Galois | aotuv is all about high bitrates |
| 14:05:07 | preglow | all the aotuv stuff is low bitrate improvements |
| 14:05:08 | Galois | and low bitrates |
| 14:05:10 | Galois | no nonononono |
| 14:05:18 | preglow | anyway |
| 14:05:30 | Galois | see guruboolez tests, those are 130 and 160 kbit |
| 14:05:31 | preglow | the 1.0.1 encoder is what i've been using for yonks |
| 14:05:35 | preglow | and it sounds completely decent |
| 14:05:54 | Galois | at the high bitrate margins with super picky listeners 1.0.1 loses a lot |
| 14:06:19 | amiconn | Well, the files I have here don't sound decent, and the bitrates are 220..230kbps |
| 14:06:31 | Galois | beta4 breaks through the roof at 130kbit, beats out even aac and musepack |
| 14:06:32 | amiconn | Maybe it's the original source though |
| 14:06:39 | preglow | amiconn: are you able to compare with the cd |
| 14:06:40 | preglow | ? |
| 14:06:45 | amiconn | nope |
| 14:06:54 | preglow | anyway |
| 14:07:01 | amiconn | But that's what I should do - encode a known CD and compare |
| 14:07:03 | preglow | if you're doing a comparison, you'll do that anyway |
| 14:07:04 | Slasheri | hmm, seems to work well. Audio buffer stays full while background processes are fighting for cpu time |
| 14:07:19 | preglow | Slasheri: how's the gui feel? |
| 14:07:39 | Galois | aotuv is two separate sets of tuning improvements, one for low bitrates, one for high bitrates |
| 14:07:53 | Galois | it may not even be fair to call them tuning improvements anymore, since a lot of the core code has changed too |
| 14:07:58 | Slasheri | preglow: currently it has the highest priority, so it's fast. But i will need to try out next what happens when the ui is the cause of skipping |
| 14:08:15 | * | preglow hands slasheri an ipod |
| 14:08:22 | amiconn | Slasheri: What about usb monitoring, power management etc? |
| 14:09:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: those have all the same priority, and because of the relative priority scheduling (priority == highest_priority || (current_tick - cores[CURRENT_CORE].running->last_run > priority * 10)), all threads gets some cpu time |
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| 14:18:24 | preglow | wavpack's lossy mode is actually quite nice |
| 14:19:11 | preglow | but i'm out, later |
| 14:19:31 | Galois | woah, aotuv is out of beta now |
| 14:19:34 | Galois | I must have missed it |
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| 14:36:12 | Slasheri | preglow: uh.. now i would seriously want an ipod because i can't make the UI so busy that audio would skip :P |
| 14:36:31 | Slasheri | even vorbis Q8 now doesn't skip no matter what i do |
| 14:36:44 | Slasheri | before that skipped very easily |
| 14:37:42 | daurn|laptop | Slasheri: buy an archos gmini 402 |
| 14:37:42 | daurn|laptop | ;) |
| 14:37:55 | daurn|laptop | maybe even a 404 |
| 14:38:07 | daurn|laptop | - but you'd need to find an exploit for that |
| 14:40:39 | Slasheri | preglow: playback buffer stays full, UI does not lag, q8 vorbis plays on background, tagcache is loading database from disk to ram and playlist cache control thread reads filenames for 5000 files while i try to put some load to the UI |
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| 14:43:19 | deadhead | hi dudes, is there any devel here? :D |
| 14:43:51 | daurn|laptop | yes |
| 14:43:56 | daurn|laptop | but they are idle |
| 14:43:57 | daurn|laptop | ;) |
| 14:44:27 | deadhead | lol |
| 14:45:19 | deadhead | well couple of days ago I talked with Bagder about a bug I had on my ipod mini 2g with last cvs versions of rockbox |
| 14:45:27 | deadhead | I thought it was a bug |
| 14:46:04 | deadhead | instead looks like they changed something in the way preferences are stored in config files |
| 14:46:22 | deadhead | it has been enought to recreate the config file |
| 14:46:36 | deadhead | and now everything work flawlessly |
| 14:46:43 | Slasheri | preglow: not to mention that disk stayd spinned up for almost eight minutes but at least playback didn't skip (it would have skipped all the time normally) |
| 14:47:58 | dionoea | Slasheri: i can try on an ipod while playing xobox if you want |
| 14:48:13 | deadhead | in the specific my problem was that I cannot hear nothing from the player even if the display was ok . It has been enough to recreate the conf file |
| 14:48:17 | Slasheri | dionoea: hmm, interesting. i can create a patch soon |
| 14:48:37 | Slasheri | but first really need to simulate the ui lag somehow.. |
| 14:48:43 | Slasheri | +o |
| 14:48:46 | Slasheri | +i argh |
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| 14:49:23 | dionoea | Slasheri: add a for( i=0; i<1000000; i++); loop somewhere in the ui code :) |
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| 14:50:07 | Slasheri | dionoea :D i will probably do that :P |
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| 15:18:45 | Slasheri | hmm, i will create a patch about the priority scheduling to the tracker.. it needs to be tested on all targets before committing |
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| 15:21:00 | Slasheri | in fact priority scheduling is enabled only for software codec players |
| 15:27:58 | perplexity | nah, just commit it and see if it breaks ;) |
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| 15:34:40 | dionoea | Paprica: ? |
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| 15:49:21 | Paprica | yes :) |
| 15:52:08 | dionoea | Paprica: did you see my comments on you chopper game patch ? |
| 15:52:26 | Paprica | mm no |
| 15:52:38 | Paprica | sec |
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| 16:15:52 | JdGordon | Slasheri: have u tested on h300? |
| 16:16:14 | Slasheri | JdGordon: nope, i have only h140 |
| 16:16:21 | Slasheri | but i am now simulating ui lag |
| 16:16:28 | Slasheri | it seems to work well then also |
| 16:16:39 | JdGordon | ok, if u want me to test h300 i can |
| 16:17:00 | Slasheri | ui becomes slightly sluggish when pcm buffering overrides the ui priority when it finds that buffer is critically low |
| 16:17:14 | Slasheri | good, i will create a patch soon |
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| 16:18:43 | dionoea | so rockbox is now going to have mutexes and thread priority ... hehe |
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| 16:21:24 | perplexity | I guess it's not that far away from dual core support then.. |
| 16:22:56 | JdGordon | :'( someone found open source jumpman, but its bloody nasm so i cant port it :'( is there any nasm->c convertors? |
| 16:23:24 | perplexity | it'd likely be quicker and easier to re-write it.. |
| 16:24:06 | JdGordon | if i had that and captain comic i would be in heaven :D |
| 16:25:13 | pill | captain comic !! |
| 16:25:15 | pill | <3 |
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| 16:28:56 | ep0ch_ | any kind devs fancy commiting the startup behaviour patch? The patch maintainer is getting fed up maintaining it: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5049#comment9903 |
| 16:29:22 | mirak | anyone did asm on coldfire ? I am wondering how I can determine if doing MAC a,b,acc0 MAC a,b;acc0 MAC a,b,acc1 MAC a,b;acc1 can be optimised by interlacing the register, for exemple doing instead MAC a,b,acc0 MAC a,b;acc1 MAC a,b,acc0 MAC a,b;acc1 |
| 16:30:00 | mirak | I am wondering if any parallelisation can be done |
| 16:31:09 | carini | JdGordon: You around? |
| 16:31:16 | JdGordon | i r |
| 16:31:35 | Lear | mirak: don't think so... you should avoid doing a move from acc to reg immediately after a mac if possible, though. |
| 16:32:30 | mirak | I am ogliged to do one at some point |
| 16:32:50 | Lear | amiconn: didn't you work on fast replacement mul and/or div for gcc? did you write any such for coldfire? |
| 16:33:22 | mirak | but I do a mac on acc0 acc1 acc2 acc3 then move to acc0 acc1 acc2 acc3. is that ok ? |
| 16:33:28 | JdGordon | carini: i am, but not for long... wassup? |
| 16:33:58 | carini | I saw your h120 remote keymap fix for the quickscreen and it looks to have undid the change that was recently made. |
| 16:34:05 | carini | Looks like lcd and nonlcd are swapped? |
| 16:34:25 | carini | left is rew but right is bitrate? |
| 16:35:10 | Lear | mirak: you mean move from (as in e.g., moveclr %acc0,%d0)? Such moves stall if done immediately after a mac. |
| 16:35:17 | mirak | Lear: what as he done ? something like replace mul d0,d1 with mac d0,d1,acc0 move acc0,d1 ? |
| 16:35:46 | carini | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5893 |
| 16:35:53 | mirak | moveclr acc0,d1 |
| 16:35:56 | JdGordon | carini: i only changed it for the non-lcd remotes... i dont tihnk i effected the other remotes |
| 16:36:06 | Lear | that doesn't improve things... mul use the same multiplier hardware as the mac... |
| 16:36:27 | carini | It looks like the lcd and non-lcd definitions for the h1xx are swapped. |
| 16:37:34 | carini | Plus, cancel was changed from MODE to ON on the lcd remote |
| 16:37:57 | * | JdGordon checking what ive done |
| 16:38:44 | carini | I just checked it in the sim and it's definitely changed. |
| 16:38:54 | JdGordon | ok, fixing |
| 16:39:09 | carini | (I used http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4905 to test it in the sim.) |
| 16:39:14 | carini | Thanks |
| 16:39:51 | mirak | Lear: the mac uses one cycle |
| 16:40:08 | mirak | Lear: on words at least, and 3 on long words |
| 16:40:35 | JdGordon | carini: the iriver keymap file is too bloody big which is why the mistake :p |
| 16:40:36 | mirak | Lear: mul uses 4 |
| 16:40:56 | carini | JdGordon: I feel ya |
| 16:41:15 | mirak | Lear: unless I misunderstand you can save 2 cycles by going through a mac and a move |
| 16:41:25 | mirak | for words at least |
| 16:41:32 | Lear | I'm quite sure I've read that at least on emac CPUs, the same hardware is used for mul and mac... |
| 16:41:33 | carini | I only care because I almost drove off the rode the other day trying to figure out how to leave the quickscreen from the remote :-) |
| 16:41:41 | JdGordon | haha |
| 16:42:00 | mirak | there are instructions times in MCF5249UM.pdf |
| 16:43:50 | mirak | in a mac.l takes also one cycle. the msac.l takes 3 |
| 16:43:59 | Lear | I just looked at the user manual for the MCF5249. It doesn't include instruction timings, but state that the emac instruction set includes mulu and muls. |
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| 16:45:07 | mirak | you mean as functionality or internaly ? |
| 16:45:25 | JdGordon | carini: do u want to test my fix? make ssure i got it right? the h100 lcd remote works fine here |
| 16:45:35 | carini | Sure. |
| 16:46:25 | Lear | Wait a minute, the manual do contain instruction timings... |
| 16:46:54 | mirak | Lear: don't know, I have read everywhere on coldfire asm tutorials how MAC was wonderfull because it did things in just 1 cycle |
| 16:48:28 | Lear | Mul is a little slower, but I have a feeling that mul is internally treated very much like mac followed by a move... |
| 16:50:40 | mirak | don't know, I though it was wired diferently inside the chip |
| 16:51:56 | mirak | I remember having done chip wireing and pipelining in univ, but that's far. |
| 16:52:23 | mirak | Lear: do you know what the indirect access with 3 parmaters can be used for ? |
| 16:53:00 | Lear | not sure what you mean there... |
| 16:53:07 | mirak | 2.2.7 indirect access mode with scale factor |
| 16:54:58 | Lear | E.g., index an array in a struct, where you have a pointer to the struct? |
| 16:55:18 | Lear | Not something one uses that often perhaps... |
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| 16:55:30 | Slasheri | JdGordon: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/scheduling.patch |
| 16:55:34 | Slasheri | please try out :) |
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| 16:55:45 | mirak | Lear: in fact I maybe need it but I am not sure |
| 16:55:46 | Slasheri | and somebody with an ipod could check out that patch also |
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| 16:56:09 | JdGordon | Slasheri: getting |
| 16:56:19 | Slasheri | JdGordon: nice :) |
| 16:56:33 | JdGordon | ill put it on and use it tomorow and let you know how it goes |
| 16:56:33 | Slasheri | and please report back ;) |
| 16:56:44 | Slasheri | great :) |
| 16:56:45 | JdGordon | 1am here almost falling asleep :p |
| 16:56:48 | dionoea | Slasheri: what should i check ? |
| 16:57:01 | dionoea | playback ? plugins ? |
| 16:57:12 | mirak | Lear: I have that 8x8 word block. I need to get 4 words in the column i from index 0 to 3 and store them in register d0-d1 |
| 16:57:17 | Slasheri | dionoea: you could try if it solves audio skipping when browsing a lot with ui or something like that |
| 16:57:35 | * | dionoea never had audio skipping when browsing (ipod) |
| 16:57:43 | dionoea | maybe i'm not using the right file formats |
| 16:57:44 | mirak | Lear: I am wondering if I can do that in just one movem |
| 16:57:49 | Slasheri | oh.. but then you could try if it breaks anything |
| 16:57:54 | dionoea | but i have audio skipping in some plugins |
| 16:57:58 | dionoea | maybe it'll fix it |
| 16:58:01 | Slasheri | preglow: could you try that also? =) |
| 16:58:11 | Slasheri | yes, it might do that |
| 16:58:18 | Lear | mirak: sounds like it. |
| 16:59:19 | mirak | movem.w (0, a0, 8,4),d0-d1 ??? |
| 16:59:34 | * | dionoea needs to checkout a clean trunk |
| 16:59:56 | mirak | hum something like movem.w (0, a0, 4,8),d0-d1 |
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| 17:00:33 | mirak | it seems powerfull |
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| 17:01:29 | mirak | movem.w (0, a0, 4,16),d0-d1 |
| 17:01:33 | BigMac | Mashed Potatoes |
| 17:02:00 | Lear | Hm.. Not quite, more like "movem.w (0, a0, d2.l*4), d0-d1", but it was long ago I used it... :) |
| 17:02:07 | BigMac | do i need to have tag cache running to use the rating feature in the runtime database? |
| 17:02:31 | Slasheri | BigMac: yep, you do |
| 17:03:00 | Lear | Sorry, "*2" if you want word indexing, and assuming d2 contains element number. |
| 17:03:20 | BigMac | awww |
| 17:03:29 | BigMac | I have my music in root |
| 17:03:32 | BigMac | in a folder |
| 17:03:38 | BigMac | which is way easy |
| 17:03:52 | BigMac | and i already have all 800 songs tagged and album arted |
| 17:03:57 | BigMac | boo |
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| 17:05:41 | mirak | Lear: that's not clear if we can use registers in it. |
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| 17:06:05 | Lear | mirak: it is used in the coldfire asm in the flac decoder. |
| 17:06:37 | Lear | mirak: the mode has displacement, address register and offset register, plus optional scaling of the offset register. |
| 17:06:42 | Lear | that much I'm sure of. |
| 17:07:08 | Lear | And you don't have to specify the displacement if it is 0. |
| 17:10:29 | stripwax | BigMac - why "boo"? tagcache enabled is not the same as id3 viewing mode. and what's that got to do with your files being tagged & album arted? |
| 17:10:50 | Lear | bbl |
| 17:11:16 | mirak | Lear: in wich file is it ? |
| 17:11:38 | Lear | coldfire.s. |
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| 17:11:55 | ep0ch_ | Slasheri: your patch modifies apps/plugins/iriver_flash.c which doesn't exist? |
| 17:12:09 | stripwax | BigMac - you can still use your folders, and album art. |
| 17:12:13 | BigMac | wait so If i enable cache I don't have to view in Tag Cache Id3 stripwax(I remember I had to last time I did this) |
| 17:12:22 | Slasheri | ep0ch_: ups.. it shouldn't touch that.. but it doesn't exist? |
| 17:12:29 | Slasheri | it should exist in the fresh cvs |
| 17:12:35 | BigMac | oh so I just have to have a database on the player |
| 17:12:37 | ep0ch_ | hmmm |
| 17:12:40 | BigMac | not use it though? |
| 17:12:46 | stripwax | BigMac - I think so |
| 17:13:05 | stripwax | i could well be wrong - |
| 17:13:33 | stripwax | try it? |
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| 17:14:29 | ep0ch_ | just done cvs up -dPC and there is no iriver_flash.c in plugins.... |
| 17:14:49 | Slasheri | hmm, lets see |
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| 17:15:28 | Slasheri | ep0ch_: Repository revision: 1.4 /cvsroot/rockbox/apps/plugins/iriver_flash.c,v |
| 17:15:31 | Slasheri | there is |
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| 17:15:44 | ep0ch_ | wierd! |
| 17:15:52 | Slasheri | try to fetch a clean cvs :) |
| 17:16:06 | ep0ch_ | yes its been a while :) |
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| 17:16:47 | dionoea | Slasheri: haha, i still have audio skipping when playing xobox (a lot less than before though) on ipod video |
| 17:17:21 | dionoea | well it skipped only once |
| 17:17:24 | dionoea | can't reproduce |
| 17:18:36 | dionoea | launching the fireplugin completely forze the audio thread it seems |
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| 17:18:59 | stripwax | dionoea - I think fire just doesn't yield as much as it should |
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| 17:23:40 | Slasheri | dionoea: it seems fire doesn't yield at all |
| 17:23:49 | Slasheri | so scheduling cannot fix that |
| 17:23:54 | dionoea | it yields in the button loop |
| 17:25:01 | dionoea | but overall the patch does reduce skipping |
| 17:25:06 | dionoea | which is nice |
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| 17:25:42 | dionoea | woops, my ipod froze in mandelbrot |
| 17:27:22 | dionoea | it unfroze for like 1/2 sec ... still waiting. Does the sleep/wake code make sure that all threads get waken up at sometime ? |
| 17:28:17 | Slasheri | dionoea: yes |
| 17:29:07 | Slasheri | but it seems there are still some problems with the patch |
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| 17:46:26 | ep0ch_ | Slasheri: is it just me or is track buffering realllllllyyyly slow while audio is playing with the scheduling patch? |
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| 17:49:15 | ep0ch_ | and my player doesnt want to shut down hehe |
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| 17:53:51 | ep0ch_ | but boost ratio seemed to be a good 3% lower |
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| 18:13:55 | infamis | dionoea, fire always freezes playback on mine |
| 18:14:21 | toed | is there a patch or something that lets me seek like with the original ipod firmware? |
| 18:14:24 | infamis | oops, a little late |
| 18:14:30 | toed | i.e. center then scroll |
| 18:16:43 | nls | Slasheri, Tagcache question: on archos the auto update will never detect deleted files as there is no Dircache? |
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| 18:17:07 | Soap | toed - no patch, but there is an older feature request for this. |
| 18:17:11 | Soap | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5379 |
| 18:18:12 | toed | ah, well I'm sure it'll appear with time, thanks |
| 18:18:41 | Slasheri | nls: true, that would be too slow |
| 18:19:53 | nls | ok thanks, trying to make the tagcache chapter in the manual a little bit more correct. |
| 18:20:30 | nls | Is the increasing of max files in browser still needed to see the end of a very long list. |
| 18:20:33 | nls | ? |
| 18:21:21 | Slasheri | nls: that depends, for example showing complex entries containing sorting/entry count limiting that is necessary |
| 18:21:32 | Slasheri | without it either an error message is displayed or items are not sorted |
| 18:22:50 | nls | ok I will leave that note in. |
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| 18:35:32 | amiconn | dionoea: around? |
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| 18:37:09 | dionoea | amiconn: ? |
| 18:37:29 | dionoea | new solitaire bugs ? :) |
| 18:37:48 | amiconn | Not new bugs, no |
| 18:38:09 | Slasheri | dionoea: ah! fire no longer halts playback :) |
| 18:38:12 | Slasheri | it just slows down :D |
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| 18:38:23 | dionoea | Slasheri: did you make it yield more often ? |
| 18:38:30 | Slasheri | no, i fixed the scheduling =) |
| 18:38:36 | amiconn | The invisible card is fixed, so playability is restored :) |
| 18:38:42 | dionoea | :D |
| 18:38:42 | Slasheri | hmm, i will upload a new patch soon.. |
| 18:38:47 | amiconn | There are some graphical glitches though |
| 18:38:54 | Slasheri | amiconn: could you try that patch to see if it breaks archos? |
| 18:39:01 | Slasheri | (will upload it shortly) |
| 18:39:02 | dionoea | Slasheri: i won't have time to test the new patch today. Tomorrow maybe |
| 18:39:06 | Slasheri | ok :) |
| 18:39:07 | dionoea | amiconn: where ? |
| 18:39:27 | dionoea | on greyscale targets ? |
| 18:39:40 | amiconn | Target independent |
| 18:39:58 | amiconn | (1) The bug I already described yesterday: If the draw stack becomes completely empty, it reappears. Slightly irritating |
| 18:40:20 | dionoea | ow ... indeed. I'll fix that ASAP |
| 18:40:53 | Slasheri | and mandelbrot works nice also, it just draws the screen slower when buffer is critical (UI priority overridden by the codec) |
| 18:41:59 | dionoea | amiconn: what's (2) ? |
| 18:42:56 | amiconn | (2) When the cursor is placed on the remains' stack when there is no card, and then a card is drawn, the cursor disappears |
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| 18:44:30 | dionoea | hum ... that shouldn't happen |
| 18:45:35 | amiconn | (3) (just discovered) Sometimes it's impossible to pick a card from the column. Couldn't reproduce it yet... |
| 18:46:34 | amiconn | (4) (easy one) The help texts refer to drawing 3 new cards, but solitaire now has selectable draw one / draw three |
| 18:46:49 | dionoea | i'm not fixing (4). drawing 1 card is cheating :) |
| 18:46:54 | amiconn | huh? |
| 18:47:02 | dionoea | too easy |
| 18:47:11 | * | amiconn always plays solitaire in draw one mode |
| 18:47:38 | * | dionoea never would even think about using draw one mode |
| 18:48:13 | Slasheri | amiconn: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/scheduling.patch |
| 18:48:31 | Slasheri | amiconn: please try out :) priority based scheduling is enabled only for software codec targets |
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| 18:49:02 | Slasheri | amiconn: and the improved debug menu now displays running tasks marked with * and priorities |
| 18:49:09 | amiconn | Slasheri: Another plugin causing high UI load is cube.rock when enabling "turbo mode" |
| 18:49:31 | Slasheri | amiconn: great, i will try that. How can i enabled turbo mode? |
| 18:49:49 | amiconn | Just press Navi, and you'll see... |
| 18:50:18 | Slasheri | nice, lets see.. i will start playing a q8 vorbis on background :) |
| 18:50:19 | amiconn | It just yields once between 2 frames instead of sleeping (in normal mode) |
| 18:50:46 | amiconn | All these high-load plugins don't influence playback on archos |
| 18:51:22 | dionoea | (1) should be fixed (untested) |
| 18:51:36 | dionoea | (2) should be fixed too (hoping that i didn't trigger other bugs) |
| 18:51:37 | amiconn | That's because the mpeg thread has very little work to do. Just rebuffer every now and then, and process user requests like skip, pause etc |
| 18:51:54 | dionoea | (3) can't reproduce -> wont fix |
| 18:52:01 | dionoea | (4) ... ok, i'll fix it |
| 18:52:05 | amiconn | Feeding the MAS is done via DMA, and an ISR sets up the next DMA block on request |
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| 18:52:26 | amiconn | Yeah, fixing (4) is just replacing "3 new cards" with "new card(s)" |
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| 18:52:53 | Slasheri | amiconn: works great, no skipping at all :) but cube skips a lot :D |
| 18:53:00 | dionoea | and next i need to code a flipper for rockbox |
| 18:53:21 | Slasheri | amiconn: at first it spins very fast, then it slows down and only spins a few times in second |
| 18:54:05 | Slasheri | and even that varies on how hard the current position of the vorbis is to decode |
| 18:54:29 | Slasheri | when there is just silence, it spins faster ;) |
| 18:54:53 | amiconn | dionoea: Btw, I discovered that the final stacks are reachable with the cursor (up/down while on the remains' stack, on X5). I guess it's on purpose, but it isn't obvious from the help texts |
| 18:54:57 | Slasheri | and without turbo spinning, it spins smoothly |
| 18:55:17 | amiconn | In normal mode, cube does a sleep(4) between 2 frames iirc |
| 18:55:33 | dionoea | amiconn: that's on purpose... and the key mapping was better with the old archos layout |
| 18:56:01 | amiconn | Yes, with the draw stack, remains stack and final stacks on the right |
| 18:56:51 | amiconn | Remapping that to left/right would be more intuitive, but less convenient when mvoing around for normal actions |
| 18:57:11 | dionoea | that's exactly what i though |
| 18:57:13 | amiconn | It's not that one needs to reach the final stacks often |
| 18:57:25 | dionoea | once in every 50 games i'd say |
| 18:58:12 | amiconn | Perhaps it could be documented in the wiki / manual. |
| 18:58:18 | dionoea | it could :) |
| 18:58:22 | amiconn | Hmm, in fact it should |
| 18:58:40 | amiconn | I wonder how the old layout would look on the larger LCDs |
| 18:58:58 | dionoea | the new layout is better |
| 18:59:11 | dionoea | with the old layout you couldn't see the 3 cards that were drawn |
| 18:59:15 | amiconn | The old layout had more space for long columns |
| 18:59:16 | dionoea | only the upper one showed |
| 18:59:26 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
| 18:59:50 | perplexity | Slasheri: have you a link to the current sched patch please ? |
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| 19:00:01 | amiconn | The margins could be tweaked a bit more on the larger LCDs |
| 19:01:33 | dionoea | they could. I'll let someone else do that |
| 19:01:59 | amiconn | Currently the columns block is left adjusted. There is space between each 2 columns, but there's no left margin, only right margin |
| 19:02:24 | amiconn | Likewise, the draw stack does have a left margin, but the final stacks stick to the right |
| 19:02:36 | dionoea | didn't i change that earlier today ? |
| 19:02:51 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps I have a version from before that running here... |
| 19:03:59 | infamis | perplexity: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/scheduling.patch ? |
| 19:04:11 | perplexity | ta.. |
| 19:04:34 | amiconn | Another thing that can be improved are the large suits shown on the empty final stacks. Archos doesn't use larger versions at all, and the larger versions on colour targets are looking strange |
| 19:04:45 | amiconn | I know whom to ask about this one :) |
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| 19:05:36 | dionoea | amiconn: strange ? they look fine to me :) (seriously) |
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| 19:06:00 | amiconn | dionoea: On which target? |
| 19:06:12 | amiconn | They are looking strange on H340 and X5 to me |
| 19:06:15 | dionoea | i tested on recorder / h1x0 and h3x0 |
| 19:06:20 | dionoea | sims |
| 19:07:24 | dionoea | did you forget to run make clean a long time ago ? (like 3 weeks ago or something) |
| 19:07:44 | amiconn | I did a full rebuild including reconfiguring today |
| 19:07:49 | dionoea | hmmm |
| 19:08:33 | amiconn | Heart and Spades are looking fine, but the diamond looks squeezed horizontally, and Club looks completely strange |
| 19:08:47 | dionoea | dionoea/solitaire.png">http://people.videolan.org/~dionoea/solitaire.png |
| 19:08:50 | dionoea | does this look strange ? |
| 19:09:01 | amiconn | yes |
| 19:09:05 | dionoea | hmm ... ok |
| 19:09:32 | amiconn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suit_(cards) |
| 19:09:41 | infamis | ahh...we got a 'make install' for the sim now... |
| 19:10:00 | dionoea | do we have 1000x1000 LCDs to play solitaire ? :) |
| 19:10:37 | dionoea | well they have smaller versions in the page. I'll let you change those if you want. |
| 19:12:18 | amiconn | Of course we don't have such large displays, but then the small versions shown on the cards are looking better than the large ones imho |
| 19:12:44 | ghode|afk | dionoea: you mentioned before that you don't get any skipping with the ipod 5g, is this even with using the scroll wheel a lot? |
| 19:13:07 | dionoea | ghode|afk: i don't have very long lists ... which might explain why i don't get skipping |
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| 19:13:49 | dionoea | i don't know if the fact that i use vorbis and not mp3 most of the time also changes anything |
| 19:14:11 | ghode|afk | ah ok |
| 19:14:51 | ghode|afk | i'm using the itunes folder structure, so in tagcache the lists are huge... about 4-5 mins to scroll from one end to the other |
| 19:14:54 | amiconn | Slasheri: If you change the plugin api in a backwards incompatible way, you are obliged to do two things: |
| 19:15:16 | ghode|afk | this pretty much empties the audiobuffer and i get loads of skipping/tracking skipping |
| 19:15:28 | amiconn | (1) Bump the MIN_API_VERSION to be the same as the API_VERSION. |
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| 19:16:06 | dionoea | (2) is far worse :) |
| 19:16:22 | amiconn | (2) Since the api isn't backwards compatible anyway, sort the api to restore proper grouping. |
| 19:17:01 | amiconn | I.e. put the functions that were added at the end since the last incompatible change into the group where they belong (lcd to lcd, sound to sound etc) |
| 19:19:15 | amiconn | Some more remarks: |
| 19:19:46 | Slasheri | ah, yes. i will do that :) |
| 19:20:07 | amiconn | (1) Why did you change the sleep_thread() mechanism? With cvs, sleep_thread() can take less than one tick, since there are other interrupts than just the timer |
| 19:21:13 | Slasheri | amiconn: i did that because i wanted to move sleep tick counting to the scheduling and prevent unnecessary task switching |
| 19:21:14 | amiconn | (2) Are you sure that taking out that bunch of wake_up_thread() won't break the threading? It can easily leave the scheduler in sleeping stae |
| 19:21:24 | Slasheri | do you mean that sleep_thread(0) should work too? |
| 19:21:31 | amiconn | Slasheri: Sleep isn't always in ticks, that's on purpose |
| 19:21:53 | amiconn | Sometimes it's enough to just sleep until the next interrupt |
| 19:22:01 | Slasheri | amiconn: no, the scheduler works now in different way and it no longer requires wake_up_thread |
| 19:22:19 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah.. then sleep_thread(0) should do the old behaviour |
| 19:22:50 | amiconn | (3) You're carrying around the priority argument on archos even if it's unused |
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| 19:23:15 | amiconn | Maybe there's a macro somewhere; didn't read the whole patch yet |
| 19:23:51 | Slasheri | true.. i just thought the code might be more readable without defining a bunch of #ifdefs. But now as you mentioned it, defining a macro sounds like a better solution |
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| 19:23:54 | amiconn | (4) In battery_bench.c you're using a literal priority. Is that on purpose? |
| 19:24:07 | amiconn | create_thread() could be a macro |
| 19:24:14 | Slasheri | ups, no. i will fix that also |
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| 19:26:44 | Slasheri | amiconn: btw, did you already tested it? :) |
| 19:26:52 | amiconn | Hmm, making the whole function call a macro is a nice solution in a totally different place as well :) |
| 19:27:01 | amiconn | No |
| 19:27:04 | Slasheri | hmm :) |
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| 19:29:28 | San | I got a 2200mAh battery for the H300 today |
| 19:29:40 | San | :) I'm gonna install it tomorrow |
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| 19:31:38 | infamis | is it possible to send logf output over usb in real-time, say to a host computer? |
| 19:31:42 | amiconn | Slasheri: Your last commit causes YELLOW |
| 19:32:17 | amiconn | infamis: (1) Only on targets with USBOTG (2) if you write the necessary USB stack first |
| 19:33:09 | infamis | so it is possible, ok, I'll do some research then |
| 19:33:35 | infamis | I just need to see logf output in realtime |
| 19:33:42 | amiconn | It's impossible atm, and depending on your target might be never possible |
| 19:33:50 | infamis | x5? |
| 19:34:00 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, fixing |
| 19:34:02 | amiconn | X5 will be HARD |
| 19:34:11 | amiconn | The USBOTG chip is undocumented |
| 19:34:22 | infamis | lol...I give up before I even start then |
| 19:34:41 | infamis | oh well, back to just dumping logf to disk every 20 calls |
| 19:34:48 | amiconn | The first target that is likely to see USBOTG support will be the H300, since it uses a documented USBOTG chip |
| 19:35:15 | amiconn | It's still required to write the USB stack, which is a major task |
| 19:35:35 | infamis | any RE'ing being done on the Cowon firmware yet tha tyou know of? |
| 19:35:47 | infamis | regarding USBOTG |
| 19:36:17 | amiconn | When that is working, it _might_ be possible to implement USBOTG on X5 and ipod by reverse engineering |
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| 19:39:41 | infamis | is there any other approach I can use to get logf output? |
| 19:39:48 | infamis | w/o an lcd |
| 19:39:55 | infamis | I mean remote |
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| 19:45:59 | amiconn | infamis: Dumping to disk or viewing in the debug menu |
| 19:46:15 | Slasheri | amiconn: hehe, that plugin api hasn't been sorted for some time it seems :D but i am almost finished with that now ;) |
| 19:46:19 | amiconn | YOu don't need to dump every 20 calls. The logf buffer is 1000 lines iirc |
| 19:46:59 | amiconn | Slasheri: It wasn't sorted since the last MIN_API_VERSION bump |
| 19:48:09 | amiconn | That's how it works. During normal extension we are keeping backwards compatibility for 3rd party plugins by adding entries at the end and only bumping API_VERSION |
| 19:48:46 | amiconn | But if the api is changed in an incompatible way, we have to bump MIN_API_VERSION, and that gives us the chance to sort the api |
| 19:49:04 | amiconn | The create_thread() parameter change is backwards incompatible |
| 19:49:11 | Slasheri | yep, true |
| 19:50:11 | dionoea | except on targets which don't need the change :) |
| 19:50:30 | amiconn | Yeah, but do you really want to split versions? |
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| 19:51:00 | amiconn | dionoea: The new margins are better |
| 19:51:43 | infamis | amiconn, but dumping every X calls is not realtime...like if there's an infinite loop I'll miss output |
| 19:52:04 | amiconn | dionoea: Hmm, the help function is wrong on H300 |
| 19:52:06 | dionoea | can't you dump in the logf( ) call ? |
| 19:52:38 | infamis | yeah...that's what I'm doing now, but is bad IMO & not effective as I need it to be unless I dump every single logf call |
| 19:52:41 | Slasheri | amiconn: btw, do you think it should be ok to commit that new scheduler when problems have been fixed? |
| 19:52:58 | dionoea | amiconn: the help thing needs to be changed anyways ... asking the user to find combos himself isn't very nice |
| 19:53:09 | amiconn | Slasheri: I still need to test |
| 19:53:27 | Slasheri | yes, testing first of course |
| 19:55:07 | amiconn | My main concerns are: (1) It should work stable even in rare conditions. (2) The CPU sleep should work properly. It saves _a lot_ on archos, and is the reason why only rockbox reaches the battery runtime archos promises for the Ondio. (3) It shouldn't increase binary size on archos |
| 19:56:04 | Slasheri | amiconn: i think cpu sleep should work now better with the new scheduler and it should save power even more |
| 19:56:12 | amiconn | oh? |
| 19:56:29 | Slasheri | yes, at least in theory.. but i haven't done any real testing with that |
| 19:57:17 | Slasheri | but binary size will probably increase a bit |
| 19:57:45 | infamis | even dumping logf lines still have to view the file either off-device or in the text-editor |
| 19:58:08 | infamis | not effective when trying to debug something that crashes the player |
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| 20:00:02 | amiconn | |AhIoRoS|: Please stop that |
| 20:01:13 | amiconn | dionoea: There is no main help text at all on both X5 and H300, and on H300 the A-B buttons says REC: in its help text |
| 20:01:16 | |AhIoRoS| | amiconn: so sorry, i remove away option :-) |
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| 20:13:55 | totoetlititi | hi all! |
| 20:14:30 | lodesi | bt |
| 20:14:35 | totoetlititi | I have a big problem to cross compile in my mac using UIsimulator... |
| 20:14:36 | lodesi | oops.. sry |
| 20:15:00 | totoetlititi | I always have the fatal message:"Unsupported system: Darwin, fix configure and retry" |
| 20:15:03 | totoetlititi | .... |
| 20:15:52 | infamis | you don't crosscompile for the sim... |
| 20:15:59 | totoetlititi | yes... |
| 20:16:14 | totoetlititi | I can't compile with the UIsimulator... |
| 20:16:22 | totoetlititi | but I can cross compile for my ipod ! |
| 20:16:41 | infamis | the sim runs on your computer's native architecture |
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| 20:18:27 | totoetlititi | in the tools/configure I had a "case $uname in CYGWIN), Linux),FreeBSD), and darwin) |
| 20:18:32 | San | would it be ok to charge a new battery for the first time through USB? |
| 20:19:12 | totoetlititi | but now in the new tools/configure I have juste for Cygwin, linux and Freebsd... nothing for Darwin, why ? |
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| 20:20:58 | amiconn | Hmm, seems Bagder overlooked it when changing configure |
| 20:21:04 | infamis | maybe it's unsupported now? |
| 20:21:17 | infamis | somebody else with the same prob: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-03/0066.shtml |
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| 20:21:26 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, i tried to declare create_thread as a macro but that will create a problem with plugins |
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| 20:22:46 | Slasheri | unless we use something like PRIORITY(PRIORITY_SYSTEM) as the last parameter everywhere (without the last ,) |
| 20:22:57 | Slasheri | but i am not sure if that's pretty |
| 20:23:37 | amiconn | Oh? |
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| 20:24:05 | amiconn | The macro doesn't get evaluated when used like rb->CREATE_THREAD(blah, blubb, priority); |
| 20:24:06 | amiconn | ? |
| 20:24:21 | Slasheri | hmm, just a moment |
| 20:24:59 | Slasheri | plugin.c:267: error: `create_thread' undeclared here (not in a function) |
| 20:25:18 | Slasheri | because macro can't be a function pointer |
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| 20:25:57 | amiconn | Hmm, it's not chained... |
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| 20:26:18 | amiconn | It would mean that we'd need another CREATE_THREAD macro for plugins |
| 20:26:55 | amiconn | ...that would be used like that: CREATE_THREAD(rb, blah, blubb, priority) |
| 20:26:57 | Slasheri | ah, yes.. now i got an idea |
| 20:27:58 | amiconn | We could also use an IF_MV2() like mechanism |
| 20:28:09 | amiconn | ...but that's looking rather ugly |
| 20:28:18 | Slasheri | yep, i was thinking about that also :) |
| 20:28:52 | amiconn | The PRIORITY macro can take the comma inside its parameter list |
| 20:29:27 | Slasheri | ah, true. i will change that |
| 20:29:35 | amiconn | That's why the multivolume macro is called IF_MV2(). It takes 2 arguments, the second being an emty argument created by using the comma |
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| 20:30:11 | amiconn | IF_PRIO(, PRIORITY_SYSTEM) would be the equivalent |
| 20:31:10 | Slasheri | hmm, that sounds nice |
| 20:31:20 | Slasheri | at least i could use that in the function declarations |
| 20:31:34 | Slasheri | and the macro when calling functions |
| 20:31:49 | amiconn | Or also just the IF_PRIO macro |
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| 21:01:34 | totoetli1iti | hi, when I compile rockbox for UIsimulator, I have an error with "LD rockboxui": |
| 21:01:50 | totoetli1iti | "/usr/bin/ld: ~/rockbox-devel/buil-dir/apps/lang.o bad magic number (not a Mach-O file)" |
| 21:01:57 | totoetli1iti | Why ? |
| 21:02:02 | totoetli1iti | What does it mean ? |
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| 21:25:38 | linuxstb | dan_a_away: I've just tried a sim build with your COP patch, and create_thread_on_core() doesn't seem to be implemented. |
| 21:26:08 | mirak | ah ! |
| 21:26:17 | mirak | I finally managed to do the idct_row |
| 21:26:21 | mirak | in asm |
| 21:26:32 | linuxstb | congratulations |
| 21:26:36 | mirak | amiconn: I have some doubts about the registers beeing cleared |
| 21:26:45 | mirak | tha ACCX |
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| 21:34:37 | * | linuxstb doesn't like it when things work in the sim but not on the target |
| 21:35:05 | sharpe | linuxstb: problems, or just meaningful thoughts? |
| 21:36:03 | linuxstb | I'm trying to get audio playback in mpegplayer, but libmad seems to be freezing on me and never returning from the mad_decode_frame() function. But it's working in the sim... |
| 21:36:17 | infamis | keymap-x5.c's button_context_yesno has action_yesno_accept as button_select, but the lang strings specify "play to confirm...any other to cancel" |
| 21:37:01 | infamis | shouldn't it be button_play instead? |
| 21:37:31 | sharpe | linuxstb: well, if anything you can fork development off of rockbox and use the sim/mpegplayer as a new media player... |
| 21:37:53 | linuxstb | sharpe: I'm sure the mplayer and vlc people will be scared... |
| 21:38:39 | linuxstb | Although it seems that plugins can't play audio in the sim anyway... I'm just decoding the audio, not playing it. |
| 21:38:59 | * | linuxstb should try and fix that |
| 21:39:12 | sharpe | well, chances are that they're not as close to being run on a dap than the mpegplayer fork. :) |
| 21:40:27 | amiconn | infamis: The lang string needs fixing |
| 21:40:41 | * | amiconn would like to have Select as accept on ipod as well |
| 21:40:45 | infamis | most other keymaps have button_play though |
| 21:40:56 | amiconn | Iriver has Navi |
| 21:41:56 | amiconn | The fact that it is Play on most keymaps is because Archos had it on Play, as Play is the centre button of the cursor "cross" on archos recorders |
| 21:42:38 | amiconn | ...and it's convenient to have accept on the same button as the select function |
| 21:42:55 | sharpe | well. i'm off, good day everyone. |
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| 21:43:05 | infamis | alright never mind...just wondering why delete_file never worked for me |
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| 21:43:10 | amiconn | Then langv2 was introduced, but not may devs cared enough to change the strings per target |
| 21:43:16 | amiconn | s/may/many/ |
| 21:43:39 | TrueJournals | Hey, is anyone currently trying to fix the broken H10 build? |
| 21:43:44 | infamis | ...unless I hit the wrong button on purpose |
| 21:44:14 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: How is it broken? Looks fine here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 21:44:30 | mirak | amiconn: are you sure that all accumumators are cleared ? |
| 21:44:35 | amiconn | mirak: Yes |
| 21:44:45 | amiconn | If not, there must be a bug somewhere |
| 21:44:46 | TrueJournals | linuxstb: It seems to be fine... but if you try to boot into it, it either freezes at the end of the bootloader, at the logo screen, or when you change menus |
| 21:45:12 | mirak | amiconn: seems there is, because if I don't clear idct_row is garbeled |
| 21:45:56 | amiconn | Every mac streak is obliged to use movclr for fetching the result, this will clear the accumulator in parallel |
| 21:46:01 | TrueJournals | I have a feeling the broken-ness has to do with the CVS commit at 3 Sep 16:20 ("Fixed cpu incorrectly unboosted at boot." not sure... this is just a hunch...) |
| 21:46:11 | mirak | amiconn: and I only changed on function, I am 100% sure of clearing |
| 21:46:47 | amiconn | Then we need to search for the place that forgets to clear accumulators |
| 21:46:55 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: Maybe. It seems the PP5020 (not PP5021/2) targets still have occasional problems with cpu boosting. barrywardell is the only developer with a H10 though afaik. |
| 21:47:00 | mirak | amiconn: I use a move to acc also but at the end of the function I do also a movclr |
| 21:47:24 | mirak | amiconn: yes. that must be a in the core os |
| 21:47:30 | TrueJournals | linuxstb: so we just have to wait till barry figures how what's wrong and he fixes it? |
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| 21:47:40 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: Or help him... |
| 21:47:46 | mirak | amiconn: I can't tell wich threads are running |
| 21:47:54 | TrueJournals | If I could do that... I would :-p |
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| 21:48:05 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: One thing you can do, even if you can't program is to confirm exactly which CVS commit broke it. |
| 21:48:20 | TrueJournals | How can I figure that out? |
| 21:48:42 | linuxstb | Check out the source code from CVS at different points in time, compile and test them. |
| 21:49:12 | linuxstb | Or checkout the latest source, and undo the change to the source that you think broke it. |
| 21:49:17 | TrueJournals | lol.. I'll have to figure out how to compile |
| 21:49:20 | infamis | use: cvs update -D mm/dd/yyyy |
| 21:49:44 | infamis | hh:mm |
| 21:50:00 | TrueJournals | Just so you know... I know nothing about computer programming... only web programming :-p |
| 21:50:38 | amiconn | TrueJournals: At least you could try the dailyy builds and find out which day it broke |
| 21:51:14 | TrueJournals | The problem with that is that the last daily build for the H10 is from 8/30 |
| 21:51:20 | amiconn | Hmm, something is wrong with the H10 dailies (!) |
| 21:51:26 | TrueJournals | yup :-p |
| 21:51:32 | * | amiconn summons Bagder, the master of build system |
| 21:52:22 | * | linuxstb notices an absence of Swedes in the channel |
| 21:52:24 | TrueJournals | Also... I had another idea... since we now have a listings of all the PortPinAssignments for the H10 (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments#iriver_H10) would it be possible for someone to make a plugin, or commit a CVS change to allow you to monitor all of the ports? |
| 21:52:32 | TrueJournals | That way, we could figure out scroll up from scroll down |
| 21:52:48 | * | Lear wonders what linuxstb is thinking about |
| 21:52:49 | amiconn | Debug->View I/O Ports |
| 21:53:08 | TrueJournals | that doesn't really seem to list all of them like the PortPinAssignments page does though... |
| 21:53:15 | linuxstb | Lear: In general? |
| 21:53:17 | infamis | ...and see what numbers change |
| 21:53:22 | infamis | when you press the button |
| 21:53:31 | infamis | probably a single bit is being toggled |
| 21:53:36 | Lear | linuxstb: no, just about that comment about Swedes... |
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| 21:54:16 | TrueJournals | but wouldn't there be a way to just monitor say GPIOA port pin 0? |
| 21:54:18 | linuxstb | Lear: Sorry, I obviously forgot where you live... I'm talking about the Swedes that can do things with the servers. |
| 21:54:19 | amiconn | TrueJournals: It should show GPIO_A thru GPIO_L |
| 21:54:35 | Lear | :) |
| 21:54:41 | amiconn | This way you have everything that's listed on th eport pin page |
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| 21:55:20 | TrueJournals | but then how do you figure out what's port pin 1 and what's port pin 5? Sorry, I'm just trying to figure out exactly how this works :-p |
| 21:55:39 | amiconn | Each port pin is one bit in the byte read from the port |
| 21:56:06 | linuxstb | Seems that pcm_play_data works perfectly in the sim, but it's just #ifdef'ed out... |
| 21:56:16 | linuxstb | (in the plugin API) |
| 21:56:18 | BigMac | how come the rating feature isn't working |
| 21:56:32 | BigMac | i've listened to dani california three times |
| 21:56:36 | Lear | He, rockbox.elf on iriver doesn't contain a single divs or divu instruction... :) |
| 21:56:37 | TrueJournals | amiconn: So, I believe the default value for all of them is FF (nothing), if it changes to say FC... that would be port pin 3? |
| 21:56:41 | BigMac | and no stars show up |
| 21:56:56 | BigMac | I'm no in id3 viewing mode though |
| 21:57:05 | infamis | truejornals, that's 2 bits... |
| 21:57:46 | TrueJournals | so FC would be port pin 2? |
| 21:57:50 | infamis | 0Ch=1100b; 0Fh=1111b |
| 21:58:22 | infamis | if it went from FF to FE (1110), that's pin 0; if it went from FF to FD (1101), that's pin 1, etc... |
| 21:58:33 | TrueJournals | o |
| 21:58:34 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 21:58:40 | TrueJournals | was forgetting about pin 0 :-p |
| 21:59:49 | infamis | 0 is the most important number out there! without it, the world would be a crazy place |
| 21:59:55 | Soap | BigMac |
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| 22:00:03 | infamis | then again 'without it' wouldn't exist... |
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| 22:00:25 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 22:00:30 | Soap | Song rating (%rr in WPS) is not the same as song playcount (%rp in WPS) |
| 22:01:08 | Soap | You said you /played/ "Dani California" three times, but IIRC you are using %rr in your WPS. |
| 22:03:56 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: I've been away from my computer since yesterday |
| 22:04:05 | TrueJournals | =-O |
| 22:04:11 | TrueJournals | glad to see you back |
| 22:04:11 | barrywardell | just read about the broken build now |
| 22:04:23 | dan_a_away | linuxstb: create_thread_on_core doesn't exist in sim builds? Ah - the sim uses its own threading code from a different file. |
| 22:04:26 | barrywardell | i'm gonna test it on my h10 and see what happens |
| 22:04:31 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 22:05:43 | Soap | and jClix uses %rr, not %rp |
| 22:06:20 | linuxstb | dan_a_away: Yes, so when I exported it via the plugin api, it wasn't found in the sim build. |
| 22:06:46 | dan_a_away | linuxstb: I'll get that fixed |
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| 22:08:16 | [HO]vo|t | anyone need parts for a v2 recorder? |
| 22:10:27 | infamis | I'll take a hard drive |
| 22:10:42 | TrueJournals | I just noticed something weird... On the wiki, it says that GPIOC and GPIOD are supposed to change together when the scroll pad is used... it also says GPIOC is supposed to be default F7 |
| 22:11:22 | TrueJournals | When I go into my View I/O ports, GPIOC is FF and does not change with the scrollpad, and GPIOD is DD and changes to FD with the scrollpad |
| 22:13:26 | Lear | Anyone with m68-elf-gcc 3.4.x installed? If so, could you run it with the argument −−target-help and see if the option "-m5206e" is included? |
| 22:14:15 | TrueJournals | However, I did look in the rockbox code a bit... and it seems to look for both GPIOC and GPIOD to change... so is there a bug in the View I/O Ports page? |
| 22:14:29 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: That's strange. I'll look at it again |
| 22:14:39 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 22:15:12 | infamis | Lear, yes, on 3.4.6 (linux) |
| 22:15:51 | linuxstb | Lear: Yes on 3.4.4 (Linux) |
| 22:16:19 | infamis | http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/6907/asdfdv8.jpg |
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| 22:21:41 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: I'm trying latest cvs here with no new problems |
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| 22:22:57 | tucoz | anyone using emacs around? sometimes i press ctrl-pgdown or something like that, and the left border gets filled with arrows pointing left. Do you know what this is, and how to 'get back' to the code? |
| 22:22:58 | Lear | linuxstb: Interesting... For our targets, using that instead of "-m5200" should generate noticably better code. Happens with gcc 4.0.3 at least. |
| 22:23:27 | Lear | Haven't actually tried running it yet though (still building...). |
| 22:24:21 | tucoz | that is, i can get back to the code buffer by selecting it in the menu, but i wonder what kind of mode that is |
| 22:24:35 | dan_a | linuxstb: I've committed what I think should fix the sim problem - can you confirm it's OK |
| 22:24:39 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: really? That's odd... let me try again... |
| 22:24:48 | tucoz | nevermind. ctrl+pgup got me back !??! |
| 22:25:08 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: delete the .rockbox directory and rockboxl.h10 before extracting the rockbox.zip |
| 22:25:14 | Lear | tucoz: jumped a "page" to the right (not an emacs user, so I'm guessing...)? |
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| 22:25:34 | tucoz | maybe. Now i know what triggers it at least |
| 22:25:36 | TrueJournals | lol... seems to be building a new version right now... |
| 22:26:49 | TrueJournals | ok... downloading... |
| 22:27:17 | tucoz | pixelma, nice work on the images |
| 22:27:31 | tucoz | i committed them yesterday (in case you didn't know) |
| 22:27:33 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: the changes in the new build won't affect the h10 |
| 22:27:57 | TrueJournals | doesn't work |
| 22:27:57 | pixelma | thanks :) |
| 22:28:09 | TrueJournals | just froze on rockbox logo screen |
| 22:28:18 | TrueJournals | Version: 060903-2223 |
| 22:28:47 | TrueJournals | trying again... |
| 22:29:04 | TrueJournals | froze on rockbox boot loader (all the text that's supposed to show up showed up) |
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| 22:30:00 | TrueJournals | just reset with same result |
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| 22:32:39 | barrywardell | i'll build a version before the frequency scaling change you mentioned |
| 22:32:54 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: what model do you have? |
| 22:33:03 | linuxstb | dan_a: I get a warning: thread-sdl.c:64: warning: implicit declaration of function 'create_thread' |
| 22:33:20 | TrueJournals | I have a 20GB |
| 22:33:30 | linuxstb | dan_a: Seems I'm not alone... http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 22:33:56 | linuxstb | dan_a: And you also need to define remove_thread_on_core()... |
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| 22:35:41 | TrueJournals | hey, Angryman... you're having the same boot problems with the CVS of rockbox, right? |
| 22:35:49 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10 |
| 22:35:57 | TrueJournals | ok, I'll try it |
| 22:35:59 | Angryman_h10 | Yep |
| 22:36:01 | dan_a | linuxstb: Take 2 coming up... |
| 22:36:05 | barrywardell | that's a version without the cpu frequency changes |
| 22:36:47 | Angryman_h10 | I setup cygwin again (better folders) and tried to compile with verion 1.36 bt i now got an missing arm-elf-gcc error |
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| 22:37:28 | barrywardell | Angryman_h10: what model do you have? |
| 22:37:35 | Angryman_h10 | 5GB 6GB |
| 22:37:50 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: that version you sent me seems to be fine |
| 22:38:03 | barrywardell | so it's a cpu boosting issue |
| 22:38:16 | TrueJournals | Appears so.. |
| 22:38:29 | TrueJournals | If I look in the CPU Frequency under the debug menu, it says: |
| 22:38:33 | barrywardell | it's weird because I have no problems with my 20gb and cvs version |
| 22:38:48 | TrueJournals | Frequency: 30000000 |
| 22:38:48 | TrueJournals | boost_counter: 0 |
| 22:38:49 | Angryman_h10 | Barry could you give me a tip with the arm-elf error??? I need to set a path in cygwin for that and cant remember how? |
| 22:39:12 | Angryman_h10 | when time ^^ |
| 22:39:20 | linuxstb | Angryman_h10: You can edit /etc/profile (or c:\cygwin\etc\profile from Windows) |
| 22:39:48 | Angryman_h10 | so i dont have to set the path each time |
| 22:40:08 | barrywardell | linuxstb: you mentioned problems with cpu boosting. does that still affect the ipods too? |
| 22:40:13 | linuxstb | Not if you edit /etc/profile (or a local .bash_profile in your user's home directory). |
| 22:41:12 | linuxstb | barrywardell: There are unexplained freezes which seem to be attributable to cpu boosting. I've never been able to recreate it reliably enough to try and investigate it though. It seems to only affect PP5020 ipods (not PP5021/PP5022) |
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| 22:41:51 | dan_a | linuxstb: The sim doesn't seem to have a remove_thread(). Is that right? |
| 22:41:54 | linuxstb | barrywardell: You'll make lots of 4g ipod owners happy if you can track it down though. |
| 22:42:04 | linuxstb | dan_a: It doesn't? I've no idea... |
| 22:42:48 | linuxstb | dan_a: It looks like in the plugin API (without an #ifndef SIMULATOR) |
| 22:43:24 | TrueJournals | linuxstb: so it seems that Angryman and I are experiencing something no one can explain? |
| 22:43:45 | linuxstb | dan_a: Ah, it's a dummy function in uisimulator/common/stubs.c |
| 22:44:10 | Angryman_h10 | export PATH=/home/linus/sh1/bin:$PATH <−− Is that what ive got to write in the profile ?? |
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| 22:44:43 | linuxstb | Angryman_h10: No - replace "/home/linus/sh1/bin" with wherever your arm-elf-gcc is installed. |
| 22:44:53 | Angryman_h10 | ah ok |
| 22:44:56 | amiconn | tucoz: There are 2 errors related to the new images in the manual: |
| 22:45:02 | dan_a | linuxstb: Thanks. I've not looked inside the sim code before - the threading things at least are scattered all through it! |
| 22:45:21 | linuxstb | dan_a: "grep -r remove_thread uisimulator" is your friend. |
| 22:45:28 | amiconn | (1) In the recorder v1 manual, the Left button isn't marked at all |
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| 22:46:08 | amiconn | (2) In the FM Recorder manual, the play button has a line pointing to it, but the text is missing |
| 22:46:15 | * | linuxstb curses libmad and goes to watch some TV |
| 22:46:19 | tucoz | amiconn, thanks. I'll fix that |
| 22:46:54 | TrueJournals | I gotta go |
| 22:47:02 | TrueJournals | hope somone can figure out this problem X-| |
| 22:47:08 | barrywardell | linuxstb: what about kernel.c:397 |
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| 22:47:19 | barrywardell | should that be |= instead of =? |
| 22:47:46 | pixelma | tucoz: while your at it there's another tiny tiny glitch in the recorder drawing, I'm fixing it right now |
| 22:47:55 | tucoz | oh. ok |
| 22:48:04 | barrywardell | bah. just missed him |
| 22:49:57 | Angryman_h10 | Thx linuxstb that worked perfect |
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| 22:50:46 | dan_a | barrywardell: The TIMER1_CFG line? |
| 22:50:56 | barrywardell | yes |
| 22:51:28 | barrywardell | in system.c:1262 it mentions TIMER1_CFG too |
| 22:52:29 | dan_a | I think the TIMER1_MASK line doesn't look right |
| 22:52:53 | barrywardell | sorry,that's what I meant |
| 22:53:06 | barrywardell | a broken timer could definitely be causing a lock up |
| 22:53:48 | dan_a | I'm surprised it doesn't affect all iPods, though |
| 22:54:17 | pixelma | tucoz: updated Recorder_logo.svg - the problem was just in the pdf (and eps) again - but almost not noticeable |
| 22:54:26 | barrywardell | does it only affect PP5020 models? |
| 22:55:05 | amiconn | I wonder whether the Ondio's On/Off button should be renamed to Power |
| 22:55:39 | Lear | Neat. With gcc 4.0.3, -m5206e cuts rockbox.iriver with 2.5 kB and reduces boost on an ogg test track by about 2 percentage points. |
| 22:55:50 | amiconn | On/Off just sounds cumbersome, and on the X5 we also call that combined button Power |
| 22:56:02 | Lear | Oh well, enough testing of that by me for today... |
| 22:56:22 | dan_a | barrywardell: I haven't noticed any random lockups on the 3G. Or at least, the ones I have seen I thought I'd caused. |
| 22:56:28 | barrywardell | dan_a: yellow build table |
| 22:56:35 | pixelma | amiconn: but it is not only used as "Power"... |
| 22:56:43 | dan_a | barrywardell: Working on it :) |
| 22:57:16 | barrywardell | cool, just wanted to make sure you noticed it |
| 22:57:30 | amiconn | No, but it's just how we call the button. On X5 Power is also not only used for powering on/off |
| 22:58:15 | carini | Anyone use the "tags" makefile target? |
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| 23:01:12 | TrueJournals | barry, you still here? |
| 23:01:45 | barrywardell | yes |
| 23:02:24 | TrueJournals | Can you make another "custom" rockbox build for the 20 GB for me without the CPU boosting CVS Commit mentioned earlier, and instead of having the scroll bar always go down, have it always go up? |
| 23:02:44 | tucoz | pixelma, thanks. I'll commit them now. |
| 23:05:49 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: download that file again. it's updated |
| 23:05:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:06:06 | TrueJournals | what was the link? |
| 23:06:35 | Angryman_h10 | Barry can i help you in any way in my freetime like (testing a row of numbers throug mybe theres a golden hit or just stopping spamming you ;-) |
| 23:06:42 | barrywardell | barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10 |
| 23:06:58 | Jason | barrywardell: is somebody workin on that lcd bug on H20? |
| 23:07:20 | barrywardell | Jason: yes, I am. I think I understand the problem |
| 23:07:29 | barrywardell | now I just have to write up a fix |
| 23:07:39 | Jason | barrywardell: oh thank you :D |
| 23:08:45 | TrueJournals | sweet :-D |
| 23:08:52 | TrueJournals | (on the LCD fix) |
| 23:09:09 | barrywardell | Angryman_h10: just keep testing the new cvs builds and let me know of any new problems that arise |
| 23:09:34 | Angryman_h10 | is there a update for the 5GB model |
| 23:09:36 | Angryman_h10 | ? |
| 23:09:42 | Angryman_h10 | so i will check it now |
| 23:09:44 | Angryman_h10 | ^^ |
| 23:10:25 | TrueJournals | AH-HA! |
| 23:10:38 | TrueJournals | One time, I went into the debug menu and accidentally changed boost_counter to 0 |
| 23:10:48 | TrueJournals | using your up patch to change it to one makes the CVS work! |
| 23:10:49 | TrueJournals | g2g |
| 23:10:51 | | Part TrueJournals |
| 23:11:57 | barrywardell | Angryman_H10: did you by any chance do the same thing as TrueJournals in the debug menu? |
| 23:12:16 | Angryman_h10 | No i sut downloaded the latest cvs |
| 23:12:19 | Angryman_h10 | just |
| 23:12:39 | Angryman_h10 | It hung up immediatly after the new install |
| 23:13:00 | Angryman_h10 | removed now the lines by myself and it works |
| 23:13:01 | barrywardell | had you ever been in the cpu frequency screen in the debug menu? |
| 23:13:05 | Angryman_h10 | no |
| 23:13:21 | Angryman_h10 | Those things i dont touch ^^ |
| 23:13:43 | preglow | Slasheri: did you post a patch for the scheduler? |
| 23:14:21 | barrywardell | Angryman_h10: barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10 |
| 23:14:28 | barrywardell | i mean barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10_5gb">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10_5gb |
| 23:14:32 | Angryman_h10 | ^^ |
| 23:14:39 | barrywardell | try that (rename it to rockbox.h10 though) |
| 23:15:08 | barrywardell | it's the same as i gave TrueJournals but compiled for 5gb instead |
| 23:16:22 | Angryman_h10 | seems to work |
| 23:16:23 | Angryman_h10 | ^^ |
| 23:16:39 | Angryman_h10 | but goes up now ^^ Doesnt matter ^^ |
| 23:16:55 | Angryman_h10 | up down who cares ^^ |
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| 23:19:31 | barrywardell | I think I'll disable frequency adjusting for now then |
| 23:19:57 | Jason | barrywardell: and when do you think that lcd bugfix will be avalaible? |
| 23:20:22 | barrywardell | Jason: hopefully in the next few days |
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| 23:20:38 | Jason | woot |
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| 23:20:53 | Anna | hi |
| 23:21:00 | barrywardell | the 5gb lcd bug is solved, so I'll commit that fix tonight |
| 23:21:12 | Anna | i have some question |
| 23:21:32 | Anna | when i boot to original ipod 5g firmware all settings reset |
| 23:21:37 | Anna | it's normal? |
| 23:22:30 | Angryman_h10 | Barry could you point me rto the jpegviewer plugin??? I am searcing it and cant find it in CVS |
| 23:22:43 | dionoea | in apps/plugins |
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| 23:23:18 | Angryman_h10 | got it^^ |
| 23:23:35 | pixelma | dionoea: thanks for fixing solitaire :) but I have one last suggestion... |
| 23:23:39 | BigMac | how do I use the rating feature |
| 23:23:44 | dionoea | pixelma: go ahead :) |
| 23:23:52 | BigMac | the manual only gives it as numeric constants |
| 23:24:02 | barrywardell | Angryman_h10: can you download that file again and test. I've updated it with frequency adjusting disabled |
| 23:24:02 | BigMac | but i do not see it anywere on my wps |
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| 23:24:30 | Anna_ | sorry i lost my connection |
| 23:24:44 | Angryman_h10 | download from CVS or your link ??? |
| 23:24:47 | pixelma | ...regarding the "shortcuts" (for example long press right on Ondio). They were chosen for your old layout and aren't intuitive anymore... |
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| 23:25:12 | TrueJournals | I'm back |
| 23:25:15 | barrywardell | my link |
| 23:25:39 | Angryman_h10 | ok |
| 23:25:48 | Anna_ | when i boot in apple os all settings reset, it's normal? |
| 23:26:14 | TrueJournals | Angryman: did you try the fix that worked for me? |
| 23:27:06 | dionoea | pixelma: what keys would you change ? |
| 23:27:21 | Anna_ | hi, before u said that solve a lcd issuer in 5g. which? |
| 23:27:29 | Angryman_h10 | @Barry: Works fine !!! |
| 23:27:49 | Angryman_h10 | @ Anna 5G iriver_H10 |
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| 23:28:41 | Anna_ | hehehe ok |
| 23:28:53 | TrueJournals | Angryman_h10: what did you have to do to get yours to work? |
| 23:29:08 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: same thing |
| 23:29:19 | TrueJournals | sweet :-D |
| 23:29:26 | pixelma | dionoea: just like you can see it on the board, for example it is now "Hold Left - Put the card from the top of the remain's stack on top of the cursor" - should be "Hold Down" IMO because you put the card below the remains stack |
| 23:29:36 | Anna_ | no idea for what all my settings in ipod 5G reset all time? |
| 23:29:38 | TrueJournals | I wonder if that would solve the problems with the iPod 4g talked about in here before... |
| 23:29:46 | Anna_ | i try to search in forums, but not luck |
| 23:29:54 | Jason | and is there any progress with the touchpad driver for h10 series? |
| 23:30:29 | dionoea | pixelma: can you provide a patch ? :) |
| 23:30:32 | Angryman_h10 | Jason come on... you already can see that barry works like hell... it will come on day^^ |
| 23:30:42 | Angryman_h10 | one |
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| 23:30:45 | Angryman_h10 | day |
| 23:30:55 | Jason | Angryman_h10: im not saying that he should work harder |
| 23:31:02 | barrywardell | the problem is it's not really a proper solution. disabling cpu frequency adjusting is far from ideal |
| 23:31:04 | TrueJournals | Jason: barry didn't say anything about a touchpad driver... but he did mention that he knew what was causing the LCD problems ;-) |
| 23:31:05 | Angryman_h10 | i didnt wanted to say that^^ |
| 23:31:16 | Jason | im happy that rockbox is booting on h10 |
| 23:31:19 | Angryman_h10 | ^^ |
| 23:31:21 | Jason | im just asking |
| 23:31:43 | Angryman_h10 | ok^^ |
| 23:31:51 | barrywardell | i'm going to try a few ideas to get the touchpad working today |
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| 23:31:55 | Jason | TrueJournals: oh i know the solution for lcd driver? |
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| 23:32:17 | Jason | shite... reading stupid things |
| 23:32:21 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: But could it be that the people who have the crashes have cpu frequency adjusting disabled? (I'm sure you don't know about this... and I may be wrong) |
| 23:32:53 | TrueJournals | Jason: Barry said he knew what was causing the LCD driver problems, and just needs to write code to fix this... |
| 23:33:32 | barrywardell | dan_a: what do you think about changing that = to |=? |
| 23:33:42 | Jason | TrueJournals: i know... and also i was asking about that touchpad... if somebody made a progress with it |
| 23:33:44 | barrywardell | should I commit a fix? |
| 23:34:22 | dan_a | barrywardell: I don't know enough to say either way. |
| 23:34:25 | TrueJournals | Jason: As far as we know, no progress has been made... but I did stumble across something weird in the I/O ports.. |
| 23:34:53 | barrywardell | Jason: there are only two of us working on the H10 port. It's all just trial and error with the touchpad so there's no way to tell when we will happen across the solution |
| 23:34:54 | Jason | TrueJournals: thats good :) |
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| 23:35:19 | senab | evening people, just a quick question |
| 23:35:20 | TrueJournals | the wiki says that GPIOD and GPIOC should both change when touching the touchpad, but only GPIOD seems to change... |
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| 23:35:33 | TrueJournals | so, that may be a step closer to solving the touchpad mystery |
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| 23:35:41 | barrywardell | dan_a: I'll leave it for now and ask linuxstb when he gets back |
| 23:35:43 | TrueJournals | or it may just be nothing we need to worry about :-\ |
| 23:35:48 | senab | you know you've got wget to download files, is there a similar util to upload to ftp? |
| 23:36:17 | Jason | TrueJournals: i would use rockbox even if only down would work :) |
| 23:36:18 | TrueJournals | senab: no offense... but what does that have to do with rockbox??? |
| 23:36:49 | TrueJournals | I agree with you Jason... there's nothing really major I've needed up for (except for changing volume :-\) |
| 23:36:56 | senab | because it's to do with my build environment, and i want my script to automatically upload the builds to webspace |
| 23:37:21 | TrueJournals | ah |
| 23:37:22 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 23:37:33 | pixelma | dionoea: no (I know it's a pity) - just followed your instructions to tell you about this in IRC ;) |
| 23:38:22 | Jason | TrueJournals: in the worst case you could use the fastforward and rewind button for navigation thru menus :) |
| 23:38:42 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 23:38:59 | dionoea | pixelma: pfff |
| 23:39:53 | Jason | and the touchpad will be some sort of enter or advanced menu |
| 23:40:45 | TrueJournals | heh... well, interesting idea if we never figure this thing out :-p |
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| 23:40:54 | TrueJournals | I think we'll get it soon though :-) |
| 23:41:48 | Jason | i will pray for you two :) |
| 23:42:04 | TrueJournals | lol, I don't develop rockbox :-p |
| 23:42:12 | TrueJournals | I just try to help as much as I can :-\ |
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| 23:42:23 | TrueJournals | I believe is Barry and Badger working on the actual code |
| 23:42:27 | TrueJournals | *it's |
| 23:42:45 | * | Bagder just pretends to do things |
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| 23:43:15 | barrywardell | only myself and lorijho actually have H10s |
| 23:43:25 | Jason | i will pray for whoever works on h10 rockbox :) <−−- FIXD |
| 23:43:39 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 23:43:49 | markun | Bagder: to help people choose a font I'm working on this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeFonts |
| 23:43:49 | Angryman_h10 | @ TrueJournals do you have any problems displaying folders??? I always have to switch to display all in the filters |
| 23:43:56 | markun | From where should I link to it? |
| 23:44:08 | Bagder | the h10 rockbox is of course 95% or so generic rockbox |
| 23:44:30 | Bagder | markun: very good question, I don't know ;-) |
| 23:44:38 | markun | Maybe you can also put a link in /fonts |
| 23:44:40 | TrueJournals | Angryman_h10: From what I know, the default setting will show everything except hidden folders. If you want to see hidden folders, you have to switch to display all |
| 23:44:47 | barrywardell | and probably another 4% generic portalplayer |
| 23:45:15 | dionoea | the touchpad is only 1% ?!? |
| 23:45:18 | Angryman_h10 | I unhided the folders several times but they get hidden each time again |
| 23:45:20 | Bagder | markun: /fonts take you to the font package download page these days |
| 23:45:25 | Bagder | but sure I can |
| 23:45:43 | markun | Or maybe I should rather link to /fonts |
| 23:45:46 | barrywardell | Bagder: have you noticed that the H10 daily builds don't get updated? |
| 23:45:51 | Bagder | yeah |
| 23:45:52 | markun | will think a bit more about it |
| 23:46:00 | Bagder | barrywardell: I think I've fixed that |
| 23:46:05 | Bagder | a permission thing on the server |
| 23:46:07 | barrywardell | cool, thanks |
| 23:46:10 | TrueJournals | Angryman_h10: The folders go back to hidden, or your setting goes back to default? |
| 23:46:35 | barrywardell | dionoea: lots of small changes. the touchpad and lcd are the only big things |
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| 23:46:42 | TrueJournals | also barrywardell: did you ever look into what I found in the View I/O Ports? |
| 23:46:58 | barrywardell | you mean with gpioc? |
| 23:47:02 | TrueJournals | yeah |
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| 23:47:11 | barrywardell | it's on my list of scrollpad tests to do |
| 23:48:04 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 23:48:04 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 23:48:10 | Angryman_h10 | @ Barry... i get a Data abort message now while displaying jpgs didnt happen before |
| 23:49:33 | * | barrywardell has never viewed a jpeg on his h10 |
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| 23:50:14 | Angryman_h10 | ? ^^ Really it worked before ^^ |
| 23:50:19 | Bagder | what's a jpeg? ;-P |
| 23:50:23 | TrueJournals | jpeg viewer works fine here.. |
| 23:50:27 | TrueJournals | Did you do anything weird? |
| 23:50:31 | Angryman_h10 | no |
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| 23:50:36 | TrueJournals | Can you send me the jpeg you tried to open? |
| 23:50:44 | Angryman_h10 | Its with evryone |
| 23:51:19 | barrywardell | Angryman_h10: post a bug report. I'll get to it once this scrollpad is working :) |
| 23:51:29 | Angryman_h10 | ok^^ |
| 23:51:30 | TrueJournals | send me one of them... like I said, works fine for me... |
| 23:52:15 | TrueJournals | (send it to aimjournals@gmail.com) |
| 23:52:38 | dionoea | omg, you pasted your email address on an IRC chan |
| 23:52:51 | TrueJournals | I know |
| 23:52:54 | TrueJournals | I don't really care |
| 23:53:00 | TrueJournals | my e-mail is all over the internet |
| 23:53:04 | TrueJournals | :-p |
| 23:53:37 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:53:39 | TrueJournals | would you rather I said aimjournals[at]gmail[dot]com? |
| 23:53:47 | * | billytwowilly wonders just how big TrueJournals' penis is by now |
| 23:54:09 | Angryman_h10 | True Journals... it doesnt depen on the files... i tested now several different ones... it always says Data abort at 00014248 |
| 23:54:24 | TrueJournals | lol... that's why I like gmail... it filters out spam :-p |
| 23:57:13 | Angryman_h10 | TrueJournals whioch model do you have ??? |
| 23:57:53 | TrueJournals | 20 GB |
| 23:57:56 | TrueJournals | OH! |
| 23:57:59 | TrueJournals | Didn't think about that |
| 23:58:06 | TrueJournals | you have a 5 or 6, right? |
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| 23:58:35 | Angryman_h10 | yes |
| 23:58:44 | TrueJournals | that's probably why :-p |
| 23:58:55 | markun | linuxstb: this is probably the Elio chip with AZU on it (same as iriver h1xx) http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/bq24022.pdf |
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