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| 00:01:32 | amiconn | divs/rems and divu/remu have the same opcode after all, only the extension word is different |
| 00:01:46 | jhMikeS | amiconn: you mean REM(S/U) right |
| 00:02:02 | jhMikeS | answer my q already :) |
| 00:02:28 | amiconn | The gnu disassembler writes both versions as divsll |
| 00:02:36 | amiconn | with 3 registers |
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| 00:04:05 | kerlu | hei everyone |
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| 00:04:37 | kerlu | I have a problem here, can anyone help me ? |
| 00:05:01 | kerlu | I have an old archos Jukebox studio |
| 00:05:22 | * | jhMikeS supposes he'll detect the sample rate in SPDIF and then select the closest physically supported one to actually use for recording. |
| 00:05:44 | kerlu | the stuff is screaming "Input/output error" whan I try to write something |
| 00:05:53 | kerlu | $ echo plop > plopbash: echo: write error: Input/output error |
| 00:06:22 | kerlu | does anyone have an idea ? |
| 00:06:44 | Bagder | kerlu: file system error |
| 00:06:55 | kerlu | I saw someone has such a case in the former og files on IRC, but it got no answer |
| 00:06:59 | kerlu | well, I guess |
| 00:07:12 | kerlu | but it worked perfectly so far |
| 00:07:42 | Bagder | but linux usually make the file system read-only once it finds a fat problem and if you can write repeatedly, it hasn't done that... |
| 00:07:47 | barrywardell | any H10 5/6GB owners here to test a lcd fix? |
| 00:08:10 | kerlu | ho |
| 00:08:13 | kerlu | maybe then |
| 00:08:20 | midkay | Bagder: register and id logbot with freenode! |
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| 00:08:47 | kerlu | should I try to reformat the damn thing ? |
| 00:09:07 | kerlu | or fsck ? |
| 00:09:10 | kerlu | at least |
| 00:09:12 | Bagder | kerlu: yes, just mkfs a new |
| 00:09:18 | Bagder | well yes |
| 00:09:24 | Bagder | but the dosfsck is crap |
| 00:09:25 | Nico_P | barrywardell: i could test but i can't build right now |
| 00:09:35 | bluebrother | can someone help me with a setting issue? |
| 00:09:43 | kerlu | fsck.vfat ? |
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| 00:09:59 | bluebrother | http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/tar-themes2.patch and the .rbt files in the same folder |
| 00:10:08 | Bagder | fsck.vfat or dosfsck, I think they're the same |
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| 00:10:33 | bluebrother | rebooting always forgets the set theme −− but only on my target, in the sim it works like a charm. |
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| 00:10:59 | jhMikeS | I suppose there shouldn't be a sample rate option other than just showing "SPDIF input rate" or something in the menu |
| 00:11:05 | jhMikeS | for SPDIF in |
| 00:11:05 | barrywardell | Nico_P: barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10 |
| 00:11:19 | barrywardell | already compiled for you |
| 00:11:38 | Nico_P | barrywardell: just what i needed... thanks :) |
| 00:11:40 | Nico_P | testing now |
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| 00:12:19 | ze | what codecs can rockbox record to on iaudio x5's? |
| 00:12:37 | kerlu | well, this should work |
| 00:12:42 | kerlu | thanks Bagder |
| 00:13:08 | Nico_P | ze: MP3, WavPack and WAV |
| 00:13:30 | kerlu | ave a good nite guys |
| 00:13:40 | ze | Nico_P: cool, thanks |
| 00:13:53 | Davide-NYC | is anyone else experiencing a freeze when attempting to view non jpegs with the jpeg viewer? |
| 00:14:01 | Nico_P | barrywardell: at first view, it works fine |
| 00:14:51 | barrywardell | Nico_P: does the filelist look ok? |
| 00:14:55 | Nico_P | yes |
| 00:15:05 | Nico_P | with and without the statusbar |
| 00:15:05 | barrywardell | great, thanks for testing it |
| 00:15:53 | Nico_P | well thanks for building it for me, i was to lazy to boot linux and patch my build :-p |
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| 00:18:31 | Nico_P | barrywardell: i can see a bug with the scrollbar |
| 00:18:48 | barrywardell | can you describe it please? |
| 00:19:27 | jhMikeS | ze: wav, wavpack, mp3 atm |
| 00:19:30 | Nico_P | when i reach the last items in the list, the scrollbar acts as if the list had suddenly become longer |
| 00:19:55 | Nico_P | it doesn't seem to read the total number of items correctly |
| 00:20:04 | Nico_P | maybe it's not just with the H10 |
| 00:20:20 | barrywardell | hmm. that sounds more like a scrollbar bug than a lcd bug |
| 00:20:47 | Nico_P | i agree |
| 00:21:05 | Nico_P | i'll test on my H320 |
| 00:21:38 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: See you already answered that before :P |
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| 00:22:38 | bluebrother | no one? Too bad. |
| 00:23:19 | bluebrother | anyway, if someone wants to look into it I'll be back tomorrow. It's gotten late here. |
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| 00:24:15 | Nico_P | barrywardell: unsurprisingly it's not just on the H10, but paged scrolling solves (or hides) this problem and it's been enabled for a while on my H320 so i never noticed |
| 00:25:43 | Nico_P | btw, are you going to commit the LCD fix or are you waiting to fix it on the 20 GB too ? |
| 00:25:47 | barrywardell | i don't see a bug report in the tracker. |
| 00:25:57 | Nico_P | i'll make one if i don't find one |
| 00:26:26 | barrywardell | Nico_P: I'm not too sure. The 20GB will take longer to fix. It's a much more annoying bug. |
| 00:26:52 | barrywardell | so maybe I'll commit the current fix now and take a bit longer to do the 20GB one right |
| 00:27:05 | Nico_P | ok. is the fix you applied in the bin you gave me the same as the one in the patch on the tracker ? |
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| 00:28:11 | barrywardell | in effect, yes. but I did it differently to be more true to what's actually happening in the hardware |
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| 00:29:53 | Nico_P | also i saw you found the GPIO pin that allows to produce a click sound... does that mean it's now pretty easy to implement the click ? |
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| 00:32:05 | barrywardell | yes, it should be fairly easy |
| 00:32:13 | barrywardell | it only seems to work once though |
| 00:32:23 | Nico_P | ah |
| 00:32:41 | barrywardell | needs a bit more testing. that's why I haven't implemented it yet |
| 00:32:54 | Nico_P | ok |
| 00:33:11 | barrywardell | it was actually lorijho that found it |
| 00:33:28 | Nico_P | anyway i'm still very impressed by the pace of this port... it's pretty exciting to follow it |
| 00:35:04 | barrywardell | it's so quick because of all the ipod stuff that's there already |
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| 00:35:39 | barrywardell | and thanks to a lot of help and tips from MrH |
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| 01:12:19 | barrywardell | Nico_P: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-09-04%2023:10:33.html |
| 01:12:34 | barrywardell | i don't see the scrollbar bug you mentioned though |
| 01:13:18 | Nico_P | barrywardell: cool |
| 01:13:44 | Nico_P | for the bug to show up, you have to disable paged scrolling and enable "show current path" |
| 01:14:09 | Nico_P | then it should start showing, you can see it when you reach the end of a list |
| 01:16:56 | barrywardell | just tried that and still don't get the bug. weird |
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| 01:18:17 | Nico_P | maybe there's another setting involved |
| 01:18:41 | Nico_P | i managed to reproduce it on my two players with two different recent versions of rockbox |
| 01:19:30 | barrywardell | I set show path to full path and paged view to off |
| 01:19:58 | Nico_P | i did it with show path set to current, but i doubt it changes anything |
| 01:20:01 | Nico_P | i'll chack though |
| 01:20:08 | Nico_P | *check |
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| 01:20:28 | philly` | hi |
| 01:20:39 | philly` | can anyone help me with a problem i have with my mp3 player? |
| 01:20:55 | Nico_P | philly`: we can try |
| 01:21:07 | philly` | alright well |
| 01:21:18 | philly` | my friend gave me a Archos Jukebox Studio 20 mp3 player |
| 01:21:21 | philly` | i formatted it |
| 01:21:25 | philly` | uploaded some songs to it |
| 01:21:53 | philly` | now whenever i turn it on it just says Jukebox Ver : 5.03 and doesnt do anything |
| 01:21:57 | philly` | unless it takes forever to load |
| 01:22:06 | philly` | but before i did any of that it was working fine |
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| 01:22:22 | philly` | and whenever i connect the mp3 player to the computer it shows all the files |
| 01:22:28 | Nico_P | have you transferred the rockbox files back on the disk after formatting ? |
| 01:22:32 | philly` | i just want it to work so ican goto the gym :( |
| 01:22:41 | philly` | actually it wont allow me to transfer the .mod |
| 01:22:56 | philly` | has the i/o conflict |
| 01:23:29 | philly` | and when i format it |
| 01:23:34 | philly` | should it be quick or full? |
| 01:23:37 | philly` | or does it not matter? |
| 01:23:37 | Nico_P | it did had rockbox on it ? |
| 01:23:46 | philly` | because it was on quick |
| 01:23:52 | Nico_P | i suppose it doesn't matter but honestly i'm not sure |
| 01:23:53 | barrywardell | is anyone here who can update the files at dowloads.rockbox.org? |
| 01:23:53 | philly` | no it had the original and i tried to install rockbox |
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| 01:24:23 | philly` | and the hard drive can only be formatted in FAT32 why? |
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| 01:24:40 | Nico_P | are you sure this player supports rockbox ? i don't know much about the archos targets |
| 01:24:43 | philly` | im formatting it again |
| 01:24:45 | philly` | yes |
| 01:24:49 | philly` | it says it on the websit |
| 01:24:52 | philly` | site* |
| 01:24:55 | philly` | i downloaded it too |
| 01:25:06 | philly` | it's the Archos Jukebox Studio 20 |
| 01:25:20 | Nico_P | i don't see it on the downloads page |
| 01:25:46 | philly` | Archos Jukebox 5000, 6000 and Studio models |
| 01:25:46 | philly` | rockbox-2.5-player.zip |
| 01:25:46 | philly` | (452 KB) |
| 01:26:08 | Nico_P | oh yes, Archos Jukebox Recorder 20, is that it ? |
| 01:26:09 | philly` | and the installation cd i got from my friend says 6000 on it |
| 01:26:19 | philly` | no it just says Studio 20 on it |
| 01:26:22 | philly` | not recorder |
| 01:26:34 | ze | studio20 is what i used to have |
| 01:26:46 | philly` | i got it for free and hate it already |
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| 01:27:42 | philly` | i just need help with it |
| 01:27:43 | Nico_P | the problem probably comes from the fact that the archos.mod file isn't found at boot |
| 01:27:59 | Nico_P | but then we mus find why you can't transfer it |
| 01:28:13 | philly` | when it's done formatting i'll try again |
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| 01:29:09 | AMDBee | hey, did i read correctly that RockBox supports recording on the ipod 5th? |
| 01:29:57 | philly` | woops |
| 01:30:01 | philly` | i was doing the long format |
| 01:30:04 | philly` | now doing the quick |
| 01:30:32 | philly` | so i just extract the .zip to the mp3 player right? |
| 01:30:39 | Nico_P | yes |
| 01:31:39 | philly` | winzip says |
| 01:32:01 | philly` | Error writing to F:\archos.mod. Possible cause: disk full or system limits exceeded |
| 01:32:03 | AMDBee | hey... a little help... where's the recording button for the 5th |
| 01:32:04 | AMDBee | ? |
| 01:33:55 | Nico_P | philly`: try extracting just the .rockbox dir and see if it still says the same thing |
| 01:34:18 | philly` | it'll let the rockbox goto it |
| 01:34:20 | philly` | just not the .mod |
| 01:35:01 | ze | check to see if there's already an archos.mod |
| 01:35:13 | philly` | there isnt |
| 01:35:15 | Nico_P | ok, so maybe try to extract the .mod elsewhere then copy it by hand or maybe with another name/extension and then rename it back to archos.mod |
| 01:35:15 | ze | maybe set system and/or hidden and/or otherwise protected |
| 01:35:17 | philly` | i just formatted it |
| 01:35:21 | ze | oh |
| 01:35:26 | philly` | umm thing is |
| 01:35:31 | philly` | is i cant see the .mod extension |
| 01:35:35 | midkay | ze? :o |
| 01:35:39 | philly` | and i dont remember how to make it viewable |
| 01:35:43 | philly` | i hate windows xp home edition |
| 01:35:45 | philly` | >:| |
| 01:36:10 | linuxstb | AMDBee: I've recorded on my 5g using Rockbox, but I haven't published the code yet. You also need to build yourself a cable to access the line-in pins hidden inside the dock connector. |
| 01:36:15 | philly` | ah found the extension |
| 01:37:38 | AMDBee | linuxstb: ew |
| 01:37:43 | AMDBee | how hard is it? |
| 01:37:59 | philly` | whenever i try to copy it it says Cannot Copy archos: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error |
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| 01:38:13 | AMDBee | Dave Chapman? |
| 01:38:21 | Nico_P | philly`: this is weird |
| 01:38:26 | philly` | yes i know |
| 01:38:31 | philly` | it's really aggrivating me |
| 01:38:32 | philly` | :/ |
| 01:38:43 | philly` | how would i flash the player? |
| 01:38:59 | philly` | i tried downloading the flash file but the link is broke now |
| 01:39:08 | linuxstb | AMDBee: See here: http://ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector and also search the ipodlinux forums for threads about it. |
| 01:40:16 | linuxstb | AMDBee: Plus here: http://ipodlinux.org/Recording - the line-in recording part of that page is relevant to the 5g. |
| 01:41:11 | Nico_P | philly`: to flash the player, you apparently need a working rockbox |
| 01:41:20 | newbyx86 | lmao |
| 01:41:26 | AMDBee | ok |
| 01:42:03 | AMDBee | once I do that... what about recording capabilities? |
| 01:42:18 | AMDBee | AAC? MP3? |
| 01:42:20 | AMDBee | WAV? |
| 01:42:24 | Nico_P | philly`: have you tried the executable setup ? |
| 01:42:47 | philly` | yea |
| 01:42:50 | philly` | same problem |
| 01:42:57 | Nico_P | :/ |
| 01:43:51 | Nico_P | well the only thing i can think of is that maybe the hdd in your player has bad sectors so it may need a scandisk |
| 01:44:17 | philly` | alright |
| 01:44:35 | Nico_P | there is an option to repair bad sectors IIRC |
| 01:44:38 | philly` | i can run that through cmd prompt right? |
| 01:44:43 | Nico_P | i think so |
| 01:45:52 | philly` | IIRC? |
| 01:45:57 | linuxstb | AMDBee: Once you do that, and once I finish writing the recording code and commit it to CVS, you should be able to record in WAV, MP3 or lossless wavpack. |
| 01:46:10 | Nico_P | philly`: IIRC = if i recall correctly |
| 01:46:16 | philly` | ok |
| 01:46:28 | AMDBee | k |
| 01:46:42 | Quazgaa | any idea when X5 rockbox will have a stable release |
| 01:46:51 | AMDBee | is it the same with the ipodlinux? (do you need a external mic?) |
| 01:46:55 | Nico_P | philly`: chkdsk /R should do |
| 01:47:06 | Nico_P | (see chkdsk /?) |
| 01:47:34 | linuxstb | AMDBee: AFAIK, recording doesn't work on the 5g in ipodlinux. |
| 01:47:46 | philly` | im gonna restart |
| 01:47:50 | philly` | says i need to restart |
| 01:47:50 | philly` | brb |
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| 01:47:56 | AMDBee | oh |
| 01:48:00 | AMDBee | ... |
| 01:48:16 | AMDBee | how do you boot back into the regular OS? |
| 01:48:19 | linuxstb | AMDBee: And yes, you'll need a mic, and maybe also a pre-amp. It's line-in. |
| 01:49:32 | AMDBee | k, so.. you've actually made a mic? |
| 01:49:33 | linuxstb | AMDBee: It depends which bootloader you installed - the ipodlinux or Rockbox bootloader. For Rockbox, hold play for a few seconds to shutdown. Then press MENU to turn your ipod back on, and keep your finger pressed on MENU until you see a "loading original firmware" message. |
| 01:49:46 | AMDBee | k |
| 01:49:57 | Nico_P | barrywardell: are the keymappings on the H10 temporary or are you pleased with them ? |
| 01:49:58 | AMDBee | I just installed the rockbox bootloader |
| 01:50:02 | linuxstb | AMDBee: No, I've been recording from the line-out on my hi-fi amplifier. |
| 01:50:33 | barrywardell | Nico_P: I'm open to suggestions |
| 01:50:36 | AMDBee | so, you were able to make a successful adapter? |
| 01:50:53 | barrywardell | I made them before rockbox was even running on the H10 |
| 01:51:28 | linuxstb | AMDBee: No, someone made one for me. It's possible he'll be selling them - I'll post details when I'm closer to commiting the code to CVS. |
| 01:51:45 | AMDBee | k |
| 01:51:55 | AMDBee | thanks for your help :D |
| 01:52:03 | Nico_P | well my only reference is the H320, i don't even know the original H10 firmware (the H10 is actually my brother's so i don't use it much) |
| 01:52:40 | barrywardell | I based the keymaps off the X5. The plugins in particular could probably do with some work |
| 01:52:45 | AMDBee | so, am I correct in saying that you need to have LINUX and Windows to install the ipod linux? |
| 01:53:06 | AMDBee | (saw a tutorial that said you needed both) |
| 01:53:17 | AMDBee | for 5g |
| 01:53:57 | linuxstb | AMDBee: This isn't the place to ask about ipodlinux, but I think you can install it solely from Windows. But it's easier if you're running Linux on your desktop. |
| 01:54:40 | Nico_P | barrywardell: i'll have a real look at the keymap code before i bother you with any long suggestions... maybe i'm just too used to my H320 :-) |
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| 01:56:26 | barrywardell | Nico_P: OK. as I said, I welcome any suggestions. |
| 01:56:30 | * | linuxstb sleeps |
| 01:56:53 | AMDBee | ok |
| 01:56:57 | AMDBee | thanks for all your help |
| 01:57:00 | AMDBee | bye |
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| 01:58:07 | TrueJournals | Umm... barry: shouldn't #define HAVE_USB_POWER be defined in the H10 config file? |
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| 02:00:57 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: shouldn't #define HAVE_USB_POWER be defined in the H10 config file (not sure if you saw my last message) |
| 02:01:31 | barrywardell | possibly. There isn't really any usb code for the h10 yet |
| 02:01:38 | barrywardell | so I haven't really looked at it |
| 02:01:55 | TrueJournals | yeah, I figured... just figured since it does charge through USB... rockbox should know it :-p |
| 02:02:48 | barrywardell | yeah, I just left it out until I had a chance to look at exactly what it does! |
| 02:03:19 | TrueJournals | ah |
| 02:03:20 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 02:08:42 | pixelma | I'm not sure at all (no coder) but I think this is only used for the Ondio since it doesn't charge via USB but is able to draw the power through USB |
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| 02:11:13 | philly` | it never worked =/ |
| 02:11:16 | ze | so anyone familiar with the iaudio x5... can that thing Actually do honest 24bit recording? |
| 02:11:22 | philly` | i give up on this stupid thing |
| 02:11:25 | philly` | anyways imma goto the gym |
| 02:11:28 | philly` | thanks for the help |
| 02:11:29 | ze | and how about the higher sampling rates too? |
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| 02:25:29 | billytwowilly | EV|Toshiba: I'm here, but not for long |
| 02:25:43 | barrywardell | thanks for the tip pixelma. I'll look into that |
| 02:26:09 | EV|Toshiba | ah o/ billytwowilly |
| 02:26:17 | EV|Toshiba | kubuntu fucked something up |
| 02:26:33 | billytwowilly | how so? |
| 02:26:36 | EV|Toshiba | I have no internet on the ubuntu machine. |
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| 02:26:54 | billytwowilly | strange. |
| 02:26:58 | billytwowilly | are you on it now? |
| 02:27:03 | EV|Toshiba | I lost power for a minute, and when the machine came back up, kubuntu was on, and i cant get it to work |
| 02:27:05 | billytwowilly | go to #kubuntu and ask for help |
| 02:27:07 | EV|Toshiba | No, im on my other machine |
| 02:27:13 | billytwowilly | go to the command line and do a sudo apt-get update |
| 02:27:24 | billytwowilly | then a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade a couple times |
| 02:27:29 | EV|Toshiba | failed |
| 02:27:54 | billytwowilly | oh yah, no internet. |
| 02:27:59 | EV|Toshiba | lol |
| 02:28:06 | billytwowilly | do a sudo ifup eth0 |
| 02:28:18 | EV|Toshiba | already configured |
| 02:28:34 | billytwowilly | do a sudo ifdown eth0 then the above |
| 02:28:43 | billytwowilly | then do an ifconfig and see what ip eth0 got |
| 02:28:50 | EV|Toshiba | ok |
| 02:29:30 | billytwowilly | I'm crazy busy right now. |
| 02:29:35 | EV|Toshiba | lol |
| 02:29:40 | billytwowilly | ask the guys in #kubuntu for help if you need further assistance |
| 02:29:45 | EV|Toshiba | k |
| 02:29:47 | billytwowilly | or #ubuntu |
| 02:30:03 | EV|Toshiba | I did ubuntu and xubuntu, neither could/would help |
| 02:30:11 | Nico_P | barrywardell: what do you think of using a short press of the power button to display the main menu ? |
| 02:31:13 | barrywardell | Nico_P: instead of rew? the main menu key had been bothering me a bit. it's a little inconsistent between the file browser and wps |
| 02:31:24 | Nico_P | i've been thinking about the keymappings and i think they mainly lack consistency between the file browser and the WPS (and the plugins too but that's secondary IMHO) |
| 02:31:35 | Nico_P | :D |
| 02:31:57 | Nico_P | yes, instead of REW |
| 02:32:00 | barrywardell | plugins were randomly chosen |
| 02:32:09 | EV|Toshiba | billytwowilly, what did you have me do yesterday? |
| 02:32:13 | barrywardell | what about the quickscreen and context screen then? |
| 02:32:23 | Nico_P | i think with that i could come up with something consistend and relatively intuitive |
| 02:32:33 | billytwowilly | apt-get update apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| 02:32:37 | barrywardell | it would be great if you could |
| 02:32:52 | EV|Toshiba | do you know how to remove kubuntu desktop? |
| 02:33:03 | Nico_P | context would be a long press on O on both screens and quickscreen a long press on <- |
| 02:33:22 | barrywardell | sounds like a promising idea |
| 02:33:29 | billytwowilly | it won't help you. |
| 02:33:36 | EV|Toshiba | shit |
| 02:33:38 | billytwowilly | what you did was you didn't finish configuring the packages |
| 02:33:40 | EV|Toshiba | lemme ask the k guys. |
| 02:33:43 | billytwowilly | do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:33:46 | Nico_P | i'll give it a little more thought and maybe boot linux to build a test version |
| 02:33:51 | * | barrywardell likes consistency |
| 02:33:54 | billytwowilly | do the above command. it might fix it. |
| 02:34:03 | EV|Toshiba | Failed |
| 02:34:19 | barrywardell | Nico_P: cool. i'm gonna grab some sleep now. I'll check back with you tomorrow |
| 02:34:23 | billytwowilly | failed how? |
| 02:34:26 | billytwowilly | pm me. |
| 02:34:34 | billytwowilly | I'll help you for 7 more minutes. |
| 02:34:40 | EV|Toshiba | ok |
| 02:34:47 | Nico_P | my main concern was about the power button... being able to use the short press would help a lot |
| 02:34:55 | Nico_P | barrywardell: ok, good night |
| 02:35:01 | barrywardell | good night |
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| 02:36:39 | webguest28 | hello I would like to ask a quick question |
| 02:36:48 | webguest28 | is anyone available? |
| 02:37:59 | Febs | You're right, that was a quick question. |
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| 02:38:06 | Febs | ;) |
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| 02:38:32 | webguest06 | hello is anyone available? |
| 02:38:45 | Febs | Just ask your question. |
| 02:38:49 | webguest06 | ok |
| 02:39:00 | webguest06 | I have a RCA Lyra mp3 player 1028 |
| 02:39:36 | webguest06 | I accidentally unplugged it from windows without safely removing...now it just goes to an RCA screen and then I have to remove the battery to get it to power off |
| 02:39:57 | webguest06 | This sounds like a firmware problem |
| 02:40:05 | webguest06 | Is there anyway to fix this? |
| 02:40:59 | | Part pixelma |
| 02:41:09 | webguest06 | i have contacted RCA support to see if they can make the firmware available |
| 02:41:35 | webguest06 | does anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:41:44 | Febs | OK, but this is #rockbox. The Lyra isn't even a Rockbox-supported platform. |
| 02:42:07 | webguest06 | I know but i figured you guys know alot about firmware |
| 02:42:13 | webguest06 | and mp3 players |
| 02:42:19 | webguest06 | what do you think? |
| 02:42:36 | webguest06 | i am desperate becuase i cant buy another mp3 player at this time |
| 02:43:47 | webguest06 | can the Rockbox app be used to upload firmware? |
| 02:43:53 | billytwowilly | no. |
| 02:43:54 | billytwowilly | lol |
| 02:44:01 | webguest06 | oh bummer |
| 02:44:07 | webguest06 | so i am screwed i guess |
| 02:44:07 | billytwowilly | you should contact rca to do an RMA on the unit |
| 02:44:29 | webguest06 | it would probably cost more to do that then buy another one |
| 02:44:42 | webguest06 | not unless they could bill me lol |
| 02:45:28 | webguest06 | well when i buy another mp3 player i am going to buy one off the supported list on the rockbox site so i can restore my firmware at any time |
| 02:46:24 | webguest06 | I've seen cheap RCA 1028 player for as low as 13 dollars |
| 02:46:39 | webguest06 | it is sad that i am to poor to buy one presently |
| 02:47:22 | webguest06 | any other suggestions or comments? |
| 02:48:23 | | Part blenderenderer |
| 02:48:28 | webguest06 | well thanks for your help guys |
| 02:48:44 | webguest06 | i saw some was going to do a port on another lyra model |
| 02:48:57 | webguest06 | do you think if he created customer firmware it might work on my player |
| 02:49:07 | webguest06 | sorry i meant custom |
| 02:50:29 | webguest06 | circket...cricket |
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| 03:01:34 | [HO]vo|t | i have an archos lcd screen (Player, Recorder, Onido) and two batteries for Jukebox/Recorder models (2200mah, 2800mah) that i'll let go for shipping. PM any questions |
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| 03:07:26 | hockyhair | hola |
| 03:07:44 | hockyhair | any major improvements for ipod-video in the last month? |
| 03:07:57 | JdGordon | thge changelog is on the site |
| 03:08:02 | sharpe | can't miss it... |
| 03:08:03 | hockyhair | last i heard there was some work being done on dual core? or something like that |
| 03:08:27 | hockyhair | i'll check it out.. how's progress going with video? |
| 03:08:42 | sharpe | it's going. |
| 03:08:59 | hockyhair | and is there any hope for cue support (mp3 cut into parts as designated by cue) |
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| 03:12:17 | sharpe | not right now. there's only a feature request on flyspray, nor is it a priority for any developer at the moment... |
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| 06:52:39 | CathodeRayTube | hello? |
| 06:53:04 | CathodeRayTube | anybody home... |
| 06:53:56 | CathodeRayTube | -_- |
| 06:55:19 | CathodeRayTube | guess il just wait... |
| 06:58:07 | scorche | if you are going to wait, at least ask the question |
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| 06:59:35 | scorche | or just leave... |
| 06:59:40 | JdGordon | ha |
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| 07:00:05 | CathodeRayTube | ok so there are people here |
| 07:00:22 | scorche | just because we dont say anything, doesnt mean we arent here |
| 07:01:51 | CathodeRayTube | well i just wanted to ask if by any chance firmware for the DMC HD500 is in the works? |
| 07:02:05 | JdGordon | nope |
| 07:02:23 | scorche | JdGordon: i was going to write an amusing and yet oh-so-subtle response |
| 07:02:26 | scorche | but you ruined it! |
| 07:02:33 | CathodeRayTube | any chance that it will be in the future? |
| 07:02:34 | * | JdGordon was also, but was too lazy |
| 07:02:38 | JdGordon | yes |
| 07:02:39 | scorche | ot likely |
| 07:02:50 | JdGordon | no, but there is a chance |
| 07:03:18 | scorche | it all depends if someone who has the skills to do so and is motivated to do so is able to get their hands on a unit |
| 07:03:39 | CathodeRayTube | do you even know wich player im talking about...its a pretty rare one i think.. |
| 07:04:03 | scorche | it doesnt matter if i know it or not..the answer is the same |
| 07:04:20 | CathodeRayTube | ok |
| 07:04:50 | CathodeRayTube | another question... |
| 07:05:14 | scorche | just ask them instead of prefacing them please....it is easier to read and takes less time |
| 07:05:49 | CathodeRayTube | dose the firmware for the ipod make it so you dont have to use itunes, like can you just drag and drop files onto it..and back off of it? |
| 07:05:56 | scorche | correct |
| 07:06:07 | CathodeRayTube | nice |
| 07:06:08 | scorche | errr.... "yes it does" |
| 07:06:35 | CathodeRayTube | did i like come in here at a bad time or somthing... |
| 07:06:41 | scorche | no |
| 07:06:47 | JdGordon | any tiome is a bad time :D |
| 07:06:47 | scorche | why do you ask that? |
| 07:06:50 | scorche | hehe |
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| 07:06:56 | CathodeRayTube | you guys dont seem verry friendly... |
| 07:07:12 | * | scorche hugs CathodeRayTube |
| 07:07:13 | scorche | better? |
| 07:07:17 | JdGordon | haha |
| 07:07:30 | CathodeRayTube | sorry for wasting your time... |
| 07:07:32 | CathodeRayTube | bye |
| 07:07:34 | scorche | you didnt |
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| 07:07:57 | scorche | JdGordon: was i too rough on the boy? =( |
| 07:08:00 | JdGordon | na |
| 07:09:00 | scorche | i kbut he seemed so hurt! |
| 07:09:20 | scorche | s/know, but/kbut |
| 07:09:47 | JdGordon | meh, dw bout it |
| 07:09:57 | * | scorche is being sarcastic |
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| 07:26:00 | CathodeRayTube | guesswhosback... |
| 07:26:21 | scorche | vanilla ice? |
| 07:26:40 | perplexity | Thin Lizzy ? |
| 07:27:17 | CathodeRayTube | anyway...my friend on another chat network sudjested that maybe if i uploaded the stock firmware for my player that maybe you guys would be motivated to work on a vershon of rockbox for it.. |
| 07:27:54 | scorche | what would give you that idea? =P |
| 07:28:02 | CathodeRayTube | would you be intrested in that or would it just be a waste of yours and my time? |
| 07:28:16 | scorche | it is extremely hard to build a firmware for a device that you dont hold in your hand |
| 07:28:26 | scorche | and i doubt that firmware is open source |
| 07:28:54 | scorche | also, that only *slightly* modifies the capability to port it....no change in motivation =P |
| 07:29:41 | CathodeRayTube | im just putting the idia out there..i dont expect anything to be done overnight..i know it takes a verry long time to develope somthing like this.. |
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| 07:30:52 | scorche | well, as i said...uploading the firmware somewhere does nothing to help your cause... |
| 07:31:49 | scorche | if you happen to have another friend that happens to have a good grasp of C, and happens to also have the player itself, you might get somewhere |
| 07:32:06 | CathodeRayTube | i dont reely have a case...the stock firmware if OK the way it is...it would be nice to play flac files but its no tthe end of the world if i cant... |
| 07:32:22 | Quazgaa | whats the player |
| 07:32:25 | CathodeRayTube | i was trying to learn C++ at one point... |
| 07:33:10 | CathodeRayTube | http://www.xclef.com/pro03_e.htm |
| 07:33:20 | CathodeRayTube | that may be old... |
| 07:33:32 | CathodeRayTube | mine has a 120 gig drive in it... |
| 07:34:34 | CathodeRayTube | anyways i just never had the time and it was pretty boring rading...i got past the "hello" tutorial and then quit.. |
| 07:34:51 | Quazgaa | heh |
| 07:35:43 | CathodeRayTube | flac is reely the only major thing that would be nice to see in it... |
| 07:36:07 | CathodeRayTube | its allredy compleatly drag n drop and has an EQ etc.. |
| 07:36:23 | CathodeRayTube | and it allredy plays ogg |
| 07:38:39 | BHSPitLappy | that's a neat looking thing. |
| 07:40:21 | CathodeRayTube | i think i have a little more respect for the ipod now that i know theres differant firmware for it...that makes it work without itunes and the drm shit.. |
| 07:42:10 | CathodeRayTube | i think they quit making it now...i bought it from digitalmind...but its not on there site anymore.. |
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| 07:45:14 | CathodeRayTube | is there anything for the creative nomad zen or whatever it is? |
| 07:45:23 | scorche | nay |
| 07:46:03 | CathodeRayTube | not possible, or nobody bothered yet? |
| 07:46:34 | scorche | bothered |
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| 07:47:34 | CathodeRayTube | you guys do this in your spare time im guessing? |
| 07:47:38 | scorche | yup |
| 07:47:53 | perplexity | I must admit, an iPod Video 60GB with Rockbox is next on my list when I can justify "upgrading" my h340.. |
| 07:48:48 | CathodeRayTube | if it werent for the 120 gig drive in mine i may have actualy bought an ipod had i known rockbox was available fo rit.. |
| 07:49:19 | scorche | i doubt i will "upgrade" until there is a better device that can hold more or equal data than my archos...or a feature is intorduced that i cant live without |
| 07:49:35 | CathodeRayTube | but my library is at about 64 gigs right now... |
| 07:49:59 | CathodeRayTube | lossless.. |
| 07:50:12 | scorche | i can live without lossless =) |
| 07:50:25 | scorche | and i do |
| 07:50:27 | CathodeRayTube | i play wav files... |
| 07:50:50 | scorche | i am able to play wavs on my archos |
| 07:51:31 | CathodeRayTube | this thing was $80 cheeper than the 60 gig ipod ...i bought the vershon without a HDD for about 150$ and put in my own 120 hitachi... |
| 07:51:45 | scorche | ok... |
| 07:52:30 | CathodeRayTube | 120gig hitachi drive* |
| 07:52:39 | scorche | i assumed that |
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| 07:53:15 | Knives | Anyone home? |
| 07:53:20 | CathodeRayTube | yes |
| 07:53:24 | scorche | there always is.. |
| 07:53:32 | Knives | ^^ |
| 07:53:42 | amiconn | mirak_: I know what you're doing wrong so you _think_ the emac accumulators aren't cleared on entry... You're setting %macsr in the wrong way. |
| 07:54:29 | CathodeRayTube | thats a little over my head... |
| 07:54:50 | scorche | that is why it wasnt directed to you... |
| 07:55:12 | CathodeRayTube | exuse me...i have to take the browns to the superbowel... |
| 07:55:14 | CathodeRayTube | bbl... |
| 07:55:24 | CathodeRayTube | *idles* |
| 07:56:19 | scorche | Knives: did you need something? |
| 07:56:21 | JdGordon | morning amiconn, i want to be able to get the english string of any xlatable string.. is it better to slow it down and search the builtin string array for the id, or add another array for the pointers (adds 2800bytes) ? |
| 07:57:07 | amiconn | mirak_: The way you set it, all overflow flags are set immediately. Clearing the accumulators resets them to zero. What you want (since you're using integer mode is to set MACSR to 0x00000000 |
| 07:57:37 | amiconn | JdGordon: Huh? What are you trying to do? |
| 07:59:55 | amiconn | There should be no single reason to know the english string when a non-english translation is loaded |
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| 08:00:13 | JdGordon | amiconn: loading and saving the config files, I want to save space by using the lang id for strings, but always use the english string for the text file |
| 08:00:37 | amiconn | That won't work anyway |
| 08:00:42 | JdGordon | why not? |
| 08:00:53 | amiconn | Not every setting has a suitable string |
| 08:01:04 | Knives | Scorche, I needed something but now I can't seem to remember what... |
| 08:01:20 | JdGordon | yes they do.. well they will need to, but thats minor |
| 08:01:34 | JdGordon | do i sacrafise speed or space? |
| 08:02:04 | amiconn | Even if it would, adding the extra array would increase size more than what you would save by leaving out the separate strings used for settings today |
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| 08:02:37 | amiconn | ...and searching the array will be really slow |
| 08:02:56 | JdGordon | thats what im worried about.. |
| 08:03:03 | amiconn | You would then search the array (half of it on average) for every single setting... |
| 08:04:40 | JdGordon | with some cache trickery hopefully it wont be too slow... i tihnk maybe the 2400bytes extra array might work better.. |
| 08:04:41 | amiconn | And changing the english language string even slightly (correcting sub-optimal choice of words, capitalisation etc) would break that setting |
| 08:05:03 | JdGordon | another minor point :p |
| 08:05:08 | amiconn | The strings used for settings now are very likely smaller than an extra array |
| 08:06:12 | JdGordon | im hopeing to be able to put everything the settings need to be settable in 1 array, so changing it to the translatable string means the same id can be used inthe setting file and the menu and setting title, etc |
| 08:06:16 | amiconn | What is so bad with the current way? |
| 08:06:28 | * | amiconn thinks you're trying to change too many things at once |
| 08:06:39 | JdGordon | quite possibly :D |
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| 08:06:58 | * | JdGordon gtg for 10 min |
| 08:17:23 | [HO]vo|t | last time i'll post this before ebaying it/them or probably throwing them away: |
| 08:17:25 | [HO]vo|t | i have an archos lcd screen (Player, Recorder, Onido) and two batteries for Jukebox/Recorder models (2200mah, 2800mah) that i'll let go for shipping. PM any questions |
| 08:21:34 | midkay | [HO]vo|t: sounds like it may be useful to someone, might post that on the forum or something, a lot of people probably aren't around right now.. |
| 08:21:59 | amiconn | [HO]vo|t: I'd guess posting on the ml, in the forums or on the SpareParts wiki page would be better |
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| 08:26:27 | amiconn | JdGordon: Hmm, a quick count yields that there are 607 language strings atm. Adding a pointer array would add 2428 bytes. Then there are ~140 config strings (some more with eq). Assuming an average length of 15 chars for these adds up to ~2100 bytes |
| 08:27:00 | amiconn | That's about the same amount |
| 08:27:46 | amiconn | So using the english strings for config files might be size neutral, but I still think it would be a bad idea to do that |
| 08:28:58 | amiconn | Currently the strings aren't the same, even without looking at capitalisation |
| 08:29:29 | amiconn | The config strings are shorter and more technical than the actual setting |
| 08:30:08 | amiconn | But if you have an array of settings, nothing stops you from having the config strings in there. Not the english.lng strings, but today's strings |
| 08:36:12 | CathodeRayTube | hmmm... |
| 08:37:23 | CathodeRayTube | you guys are all programmers right? |
| 08:39:09 | Quazgaa | CathodeRayTube: all your phear are belong to us |
| 08:40:04 | CathodeRayTube | i was trying to learn c++ a while ago but got bored with it...and iv herd people say that its outdated...what do you think would be the best language to learn if i wanted to learn how to program? |
| 08:40:28 | Quazgaa | if you want to program in a cubicle |
| 08:40:38 | Quazgaa | learn MS visual buttsex |
| 08:40:54 | Quazgaa | if you want to write real code and real programs that might do any real people any good, learn C |
| 08:41:15 | CathodeRayTube | i herd that C# is better than C++...is that true? |
| 08:42:15 | midkay | "best language"? what do you want to do? rockbox is written in C... any programming language is a language to program in. |
| 08:42:24 | CathodeRayTube | isent C more for hardware related things like...firmware and drivers? |
| 08:42:33 | midkay | not at all. |
| 08:44:04 | amiconn | Imo the most important thing to do is to learn & understand the concepts of programming |
| 08:44:46 | CathodeRayTube | do they all basicly do the same thing, but some are just eseyer to use than others? |
| 08:44:56 | amiconn | Then learning another programming language isn't a big thing anymore |
| 08:46:51 | CathodeRayTube | are differant languages restricted to differant OSs? liek if i learn C++ can i only make programs for PC and not mac or linux |
| 08:49:32 | CathodeRayTube | im pretty much a noob when it comes to programming...sorry if these questions are stupid... |
| 08:51:49 | CathodeRayTube | mmkay well goodnight... |
| 08:52:24 | CathodeRayTube | hope to see rockbox for the xclef eventualy. |
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| 09:00:23 | rageahol | iriver h10 20gb port working nominally |
| 09:00:26 | rageahol | whee! |
| 09:00:36 | rageahol | skipping something awful though |
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| 09:09:15 | * | JdGordon back, damn sister *forced* me to go get ice cream :p |
| 09:10:51 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Is it possible when using SPDIF to not directly monitor EBU but play resampled data out on I2S? I can't seem to determine its impossibility for sure from the datasheet. |
| 09:12:21 | JdGordon | <amiconn> The config strings are shorter and more technical than the actual setting <- yes, but there is no real reason to have a different string in the menus than the config file... especially if the config files actually become more importnat (because no more config block) |
| 09:13:35 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: I'm about to make them a little more important by storing codec settings for each encoder in them. |
| 09:14:15 | JdGordon | storing there and not the config block? |
| 09:14:28 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: yes definitely |
| 09:14:46 | jhMikeS | wav_enc.codec => wav_enc.cfg |
| 09:14:53 | jhMikeS | for exmp |
| 09:14:57 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 09:15:25 | jhMikeS | otherwise nightmare city and it would use a lot of config block bytes |
| 09:19:33 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yes, you could play resampled data, but it would be significantly more involved than just feeding the ebu signal to th euda |
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| 09:21:07 | amiconn | With our current resampler it wouldn't be worth it imho |
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| 09:22:26 | keuleJ | Hello, maybe you already noticed, the forums seem to be down! |
| 09:22:27 | amiconn | Resampling for monitoring would have another (slight?) disadvantage - it would add latency |
| 09:23:26 | jhMikeS | amcionn: Just talking about for monitoring purposes so that the audio sounds about right |
| 09:23:52 | amiconn | Yes, but it's out of sync with the source then |
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| 09:23:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn: true but I'm pretty certain I can make that short enough |
| 09:24:18 | amiconn | Depending on the recording situation, it might either not matter at all, or be very annoying |
| 09:24:53 | jhMikeS | Well...the ones where the sample rates match audioclk won't need it. |
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| 09:26:16 | jhMikeS | You can of course monitor on SPDIF out as well if it must be perfect |
| 09:26:23 | amiconn | It never matches exactly....but one dropped sampled or duplcated sampe every several thousand samples is probably unnoticeable |
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| 09:27:01 | jhMikeS | How can there be gain control on SPDIF through the rec screen? or is there not? |
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| 09:27:36 | amiconn | Nope |
| 09:27:38 | jhMikeS | 48kHz recording is only gonna drop a few? |
| 09:27:59 | keuleJ | ah, I can't connect to misticriver.net, too |
| 09:28:03 | amiconn | There's no gain control for s/pdif, and it wouldn't make sense at all |
| 09:28:25 | rageahol | what unit are you people talking about |
| 09:30:05 | jhMikeS | Say 22050 would play like chipmunks for 1/2s and then go silent for 1/2s and repeast if I'm sending data at 44100 to the UDA for example |
| 09:30:23 | amiconn | ?? |
| 09:30:47 | jhMikeS | or what would happen exactly if the SPDIF in is much slower than the UDA's input sample rate? |
| 09:31:08 | amiconn | It just does what you expect |
| 09:31:23 | amiconn | Every source sample just falls into a destination time slot |
| 09:31:53 | amiconn | Feeding a 22050Hz signal to the UDA just duplicates all samples |
| 09:32:19 | amiconn | (plus or minus a few, depending whether the input signal is an exact match or not) |
| 09:32:46 | jhMikeS | ok...the current sample stays available to send to the UDA again |
| 09:33:52 | amiconn | If the input signal is 48000Hz, the extra samples are dropped |
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| 09:36:02 | mirak_ | amiconn: i try |
| 09:36:16 | jhMikeS | The UDA just picks up whatever data is on the bus at the time it need another sample then, correct? Wasn't sure how this worked. |
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| 09:37:10 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yes, almost. It's not the uda that picks the samples, but the iis tx that picks the sample from the coldfire's audio bus |
| 09:38:33 | jhMikeS | Right...I'm being imprecise again! :) IIS1 Tx gets it and then send to UDA |
| 09:41:12 | jhMikeS | Does it sound got awful or tolerable dropping say 7 samples for every 48 once every 1.1707...? |
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| 09:42:25 | scorche | amiconn: updated your ajr lately? |
| 09:42:43 | jhMikeS | I'm sure if I should show an error if the currently selected codec doesn't support the current SPDIF rate or just not allow certain codecs for SPDIF. Mostly an MP3 issue. |
| 09:43:18 | jhMikeS | any op's on which is better? |
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| 09:46:39 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Just round the incoming rate to the nearest standard rate |
| 09:47:25 | amiconn | Some source aren't exact. For instance my old DV player delivered 44097Hz sample frequency when playing a CD |
| 09:47:34 | amiconn | (on s/pdif that is) |
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| 09:48:07 | senab | is it me, or are the forums down? |
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| 09:48:14 | scorche | they are |
| 09:48:36 | stripwax | seem ok for me? |
| 09:48:45 | rageahol | barry, good job on the h10. thanks a lot. |
| 09:48:58 | senab | infact they're working, they just crawl |
| 09:49:02 | rageahol | playback skips on my 20gb though |
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| 09:49:04 | rageahol | a lot |
| 09:49:11 | scorche | hmmm...they werent a bit ago.. |
| 09:49:25 | scorche | seems like they are back up |
| 09:52:02 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that rounding is already done...but with mp3 you've only got right now 48,44,32...so if you got 8000kHz coming in just encode to 32? Maybe an exclamation point as a warning to the user "this ain't gonna sound right". |
| 09:52:31 | amiconn | The encoder doesn't support V2 and V2.5 ? |
| 09:52:47 | jhMikeS | not to my knowledge... |
| 09:52:55 | jhMikeS | very simplistic, it is |
| 09:53:58 | jhMikeS | audio_get_spdif_sample_rate picks from a list of twelve and uses the closes one |
| 09:54:36 | jhMikeS | If you're encoding to WAV I don't see any need for rounding at all |
| 09:54:59 | barrywardell | rageahol: try changing to a different theme |
| 09:55:05 | barrywardell | one without peak meters |
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| 09:58:19 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I asked Toni for some details about it, he gave some, I wanted them all, but he hasn't replied to that req. Maybe sick of me already. |
| 09:59:13 | rageahol | is that the default? |
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| 10:02:01 | rageahol | also, i think this comtroller input needs some "debounce"? |
| 10:02:06 | * | jhMikeS thinks some kind of icon (!) if the source rate is too far from ideal rate is perhaps a good idea. Makes it look like RB knows what's up. |
| 10:02:15 | rageahol | i nly know the word from context, so |
| 10:03:02 | barrywardell | rageahol: no the default theme skips. try iCatcher. |
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| 10:03:22 | barrywardell | do you mean the scrollpad needs some debounce? |
| 10:04:12 | rageahol | i think so |
| 10:04:19 | rageahol | it's all over the place on mine |
| 10:04:42 | rageahol | i touch the one direction, and it automatically goes one in the opposite direction first |
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| 10:05:07 | rageahol | or it jumps around, depending on menu |
| 10:07:02 | rageahol | oh man, this is so fucking awesome though |
| 10:07:03 | rageahol | thanks |
| 10:10:10 | barrywardell | rageahol: it seems fairly stable on mine |
| 10:10:45 | rageahol | mine is really jumpy |
| 10:10:46 | barrywardell | it doesn't work like it original firmware yet though |
| 10:10:58 | barrywardell | you need to just touch either the top or bottom |
| 10:11:14 | barrywardell | you can't just slide your finger on it |
| 10:12:10 | barrywardell | that's what I meant by "Basic" support for the scrollpad |
| 10:13:04 | rageahol | oic |
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| 10:48:10 | tucoz | isn't ROLO on ipods working now? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5621 |
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| 10:51:05 | bluebrother | tucoz: afaik it is working but broken. |
| 10:51:31 | bluebrother | meaning it can only load the same rockbox it is actually running ... iirc. |
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| 10:54:15 | tucoz | ok |
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| 10:56:36 | linuxstb | bluebrother: You're exactly right about the current state of ROLO on the ipods. |
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| 11:00:28 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Rounding makes very much sense for wav as well |
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| 11:11:56 | tucoz | amiconn: regarding spdif recording. is this the same as optical in? and in that case, will this split tracks when a new track flag is recieved? and will it also gracefully disregard the copyright flag? |
| 11:14:30 | tucoz | anyone with spdif knowledge can answer that ^^ :) |
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| 11:17:49 | tucoz | hmm. regarding the copy protection bit i see that it's just to not care if it is set. |
| 11:17:57 | amiconn | It doesn't evaluate any incoming flags, so no automatic track split |
| 11:18:18 | amiconn | ..but no scms either |
| 11:18:26 | tucoz | scms? |
| 11:19:19 | * | amiconn wouldn't know how to test automatic track split |
| 11:19:31 | amiconn | I don't even know how this flag is sent over spdif |
| 11:19:49 | jhMikeS | amiconn: You're saying rounding makes sense because something might refuse to play tracks with oddball sample rates? |
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| 11:20:31 | tucoz | I just remember that my old minidisc split track automatically when recording from cd->optical->minidisk |
| 11:20:52 | tucoz | which was very convenient |
| 11:21:07 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I still think WAV should have the broadest set of rates but I'm not sure what they should be exactly. |
| 11:21:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yes. In fact that's quite common |
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| 11:25:20 | preglow | amiconn: coldfire does support receiving such info, i think |
| 11:26:24 | tucoz | amiconn or anyone else interested. I think this post describes the Start_ID http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/digests/V2.400/D426#Msg4 |
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| 11:28:40 | jhMikeS | What freq measurement to you get from SPDIF if nothing is connected to it when measured? 0? |
| 11:29:39 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Do you know how hard it would be to support bit-depths > 16-bits in the various encoders? Or are they very hard-coded to 16-bit input? |
| 11:29:42 | tucoz | jhMikeS: I assume you have read this page. Otherwise, you might get some info there. http://www.epanorama.net/documents/audio/spdif.html |
| 11:30:09 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: in wav and I think wavpack not hard at all |
| 11:30:32 | jhMikeS | tucoz: no...but thanks, I will |
| 11:31:03 | * | jhMikeS think he just oughta pick up an H120 on ebay or something |
| 11:33:34 | jhMikeS | hmmm...it just says...44.1,48,32 for allowed sampling rates |
| 11:34:40 | bluebrother | jhMikeS: on my h120 I get various measured frequencies when nothing connected to spdif ... 88173Hz and 66077Hz mostly |
| 11:34:53 | jhMikeS | right now it's allowing 12 different ones. |
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| 11:36:13 | jhMikeS | sounds like things should be more restricted even though technically it's possible to receive at others. |
| 11:39:15 | preglow | the mp3 encoder probably doesn't support more than sixteen |
| 11:39:22 | preglow | bit it really doesn't matter much for the mp3 encoder anyway |
| 11:39:27 | jhMikeS | it supports those three |
| 11:40:00 | jhMikeS | with MPEG2 and 2.5...if it did those...MP3 can have 9 |
| 11:40:03 | preglow | shouldn't be too hard to hack it to support the mpeg 2 rates as well, i think |
| 11:40:05 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The only official rates for spdif are 32, 44.1 and 48 |
| 11:40:31 | amiconn | However, many spdif devices also support other rates, standard or even non-standard |
| 11:40:31 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that's what I was just saying...why allow all the other ones? |
| 11:40:37 | jhMikeS | oh..ok |
| 11:40:38 | preglow | amiconn: perhaps the recording screen should display a warning if the sample rate isn't one of the official ones |
| 11:40:59 | jhMikeS | preglow: my sentiments too! or if the encoder can't match |
| 11:41:04 | preglow | jhMikeS: yeap |
| 11:41:05 | jhMikeS | see above |
| 11:41:49 | jhMikeS | For normal recording I'll simply restrict the menus based on format |
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| 11:42:07 | preglow | format and hw caps |
| 11:42:20 | jhMikeS | yes..the intersection of sets |
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| 11:43:30 | jhMikeS | the only hw caps atm are 11025, 22050, 44100. Know of anything up and coming (iPod) that will do others? |
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| 11:44:11 | mirak2 | hi |
| 11:44:36 | mirak2 | amiconn I tryed to put 0x00000000 to mascr but it crashes the system |
| 11:45:07 | jhMikeS | movclr ?? |
| 11:45:20 | preglow | jhMikeS: ipod can do tons, afaik |
| 11:45:32 | preglow | mirak2: 0 for macsr is perfectly legal |
| 11:45:53 | preglow | you used 0x80, i think, which is just integer mode + saturation |
| 11:45:56 | amiconn | mirak2: It crashes??? |
| 11:46:06 | jhMikeS | Hmmm...I think linuxstb needs to give me a list |
| 11:46:28 | mirak2 | amiconn well rockbox crash the iriver |
| 11:46:36 | mirak2 | or the opposite |
| 11:47:06 | mirak2 | amiconn that's strange because no adress are involved |
| 11:47:12 | amiconn | Exactly |
| 11:47:44 | jhMikeS | doesn't macsr need to be saved/restored (just an thought) |
| 11:47:51 | amiconn | nope |
| 11:48:18 | mirak2 | I will try FFFF0000 |
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| 11:48:59 | amiconn | Try 0x80 |
| 11:49:10 | amiconn | Don't set the high bits |
| 11:49:46 | jhMikeS | why's it saved in switch_thread? just cause the compiler isn't aware of it? |
| 11:49:51 | amiconn | General rule for config registers: Don't set undocumented bits, or bits documented as unusef |
| 11:50:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: macsr is saved in a context switch so that threads which only need one emac mode don't need to set it everytime |
| 11:51:06 | amiconn | But in fact a number of threads use different modes in different parts of the code, and then need to explicitly set it anyway |
| 11:51:31 | mirak2 | amiconn a move.w 0x80 ? |
| 11:51:50 | mirak2 | it should be 0x8000 |
| 11:51:56 | preglow | macsr only does move.l, afaik |
| 11:52:07 | mirak2 | ok |
| 11:52:08 | preglow | no, it should be 0x80 |
| 11:52:11 | preglow | you're setting the lower bits |
| 11:52:24 | amiconn | There is only move.l to macsr |
| 11:52:45 | preglow | and never set undocumented bits unless told to |
| 11:52:53 | preglow | the manual clearly states they should be 0 |
| 11:53:24 | preglow | i know of more than one occasion where that has wrought havoc |
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| 12:01:10 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: You can look in firmware/export/wm*.h for the various samplerates ipods can record at - from 8KHz up to 96KHz. |
| 12:01:30 | * | jhMikeS likes to set undocumented bits |
| 12:01:41 | linuxstb | (and probably other targets which use those targets - the H10 and Gigabeat I think) |
| 12:01:43 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: That's all hardware? |
| 12:01:48 | linuxstb | ^those codecs |
| 12:02:10 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: What do you mean? |
| 12:02:35 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: no software resampling. I mean we could support a whole range of rated with resampling. |
| 12:02:57 | linuxstb | Yes, it's set in the hardware - so I assume it's the samplerate of the ADC. |
| 12:03:01 | jhMikeS | The only restrictions being the codecs themselves |
| 12:04:30 | jhMikeS | I like that....you just set the damn sample rate and forget it. None of the clock dividing bs. |
| 12:07:54 | preglow | word |
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| 12:16:35 | mirak2 | moving 0x80 also crash. I maybe changed something other than this without notyifinyg it |
| 12:16:38 | jhMikeS | preglow: dword! Any good reading you recommend on digital filters? |
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| 12:22:21 | preglow | jhMikeS: there's quite a lot to be read, but a good free resource is http://www.dspguide.com/ |
| 12:22:28 | preglow | it's not a cookbook, though |
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| 12:24:36 | kclaf | hi |
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| 12:44:30 | markun | hi kclaf |
| 12:45:03 | kclaf | nice that ipod has a HW eq now |
| 12:45:24 | kclaf | i don't experiment sound glitches anymore |
| 12:45:32 | kclaf | hello markun |
| 12:46:28 | markun | if only we knew how to improve the battery time.. |
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| 12:56:38 | JdGordon | WOOOOHOOOO!!! it works! |
| 12:56:56 | safetydan | JdGordon, ? |
| 12:57:46 | JdGordon | the start of massive settings overhaul :D |
| 12:57:56 | safetydan | ah, that |
| 12:57:57 | JdGordon | i can write the settings .cfg very easily |
| 12:57:59 | safetydan | sounds like fun |
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| 12:58:28 | kclaf | markun : you mean when HW EQ enabled ? or for rb on ipod in general ? |
| 12:58:30 | JdGordon | lots of fun.. except trying to decifer gcc's wonderfully helpfull warning messages |
| 12:59:10 | markun | kclaf: general |
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| 13:00:15 | preglow | JdGordon: what was the point of a settings overhaul, again? |
| 13:01:01 | JdGordon | preglow: to kill some of my spare time, to simplify the menus |
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| 13:02:14 | JdGordon | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HKrdPl68.html <- my "vision" for the config block replacement lists... nice aye :D |
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| 13:05:38 | safetydan | How do you make a gui list not wrap... ever? |
| 13:06:00 | JdGordon | you have to call limit_scroll(true) or something |
| 13:06:21 | safetydan | thought so, but doesn't seem to work |
| 13:06:39 | JdGordon | .. every time before do_synclist_button |
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| 13:06:59 | safetydan | ah, that explains why the volume still wraps then |
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| 13:09:47 | preglow | JdGordon: what does this do to binary size? |
| 13:10:31 | JdGordon | preglow: no idea.. i assume atm it will blow it out a bit.. but the idea is to replace all the menu handling as weel.. so hopefully it will shrink it there |
| 13:10:36 | JdGordon | i wont know untill its all finished tho |
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| 13:10:49 | preglow | indeed |
| 13:12:43 | safetydan | hrmm... looks like we need a "don't wrap" setting for lists |
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| 13:16:53 | amiconn | safetydan: Why that? |
| 13:17:09 | amiconn | The lists don't wrap with repeat, only with single button events |
| 13:17:53 | safetydan | amiconn, true, but it's still possible to go from -87 dB to 0 dB volume by accident |
| 13:18:09 | amiconn | Never happened to me... |
| 13:18:30 | crwl | i suppose it's more probable to go from 0 to -87, which is less troublesome |
| 13:19:25 | safetydan | it also restores the settings menu previous behaviour of not wrapping int values |
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| 13:28:28 | safetydan | it doesn't feel right to me having the volume (or any other sound setting) wrap |
| 13:28:49 | itsmeguys | indeed |
| 13:29:22 | linuxstb | safetydan: I agree with you about the wrapping. |
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| 13:31:52 | itsmeguys | guys n gals, to install fonts on rockbox, do i simply chuck em into the fonts folder? |
| 13:32:51 | barrywardell | just unzip the zip file in the root directory of your player the same as you do with rockbox.zip |
| 13:33:10 | Febs | safetydan, did you see the thread on the forums about the hardware EQ? |
| 13:33:22 | safetydan | Febs, no? |
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| 13:33:53 | itsmeguys | thankyou barry brutha |
| 13:33:56 | Febs | Turn on HW EQ. Turn off player. Turn player on. HW EQ is OFF, even if the setting says on. |
| 13:34:33 | Febs | The EQ engages once you go back and select "on" in the "Enable HW EQ" setting. |
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| 13:34:40 | safetydan | okay, has someone raised a tracker issue with that? |
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| 13:34:58 | Febs | I don't know. I'll check. I saw you were here and figured I'd point it out. |
| 13:36:06 | safetydan | Febs, cheers |
| 13:36:11 | safetydan | actually I think I know what the problem is |
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| 13:36:51 | Febs | Here's the thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6271.0 |
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| 13:37:23 | Febs | I've got to get to work, but I'll file a repot on Flyspray later (if you haven't fixed it by then ;) ) |
| 13:37:50 | Febs | repot/report |
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| 13:40:59 | safetydan | Febs, should be fixed by the time you get to work :) |
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| 13:49:20 | nobosuke | hi! I have a question ..... anybody knows the iBASS speakers? It doesn't work properly with ipodvideo with rockbox!!! |
| 13:50:05 | dj-fu | does it use the component jack on the ipod |
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| 13:50:10 | dj-fu | instead of just speaker out? |
| 13:50:24 | nobosuke | yes i think so |
| 13:50:40 | dj-fu | well, that's why. |
| 13:50:40 | nobosuke | i don't understand a lot about ipod but i modified my ipod video with rockbox |
| 13:50:50 | nobosuke | and my control remot doesnt work |
| 13:50:52 | dj-fu | rockbox doesn't support that component interface |
| 13:51:02 | nobosuke | i have to change songs with the wheel of the ipod |
| 13:51:10 | dj-fu | this is in the ipod faq on the rockbox site which you should have read when you installed rockbox tbh |
| 13:51:19 | DB42 | nobosuke: OH NO |
| 13:51:28 | nobosuke | doesnt matter! i was just answering |
| 13:51:36 | nobosuke | i can listen music but i kant control the ipod |
| 13:51:37 | DB42 | i can't even change the songs with the wheel of the ipod... (because i dont have one) |
| 13:51:46 | nobosuke | hehe |
| 13:51:54 | dj-fu | you can control the ipod |
| 13:52:11 | DB42 | and now i'm bummed to hear that next week they are only releasing an UPDATE to the 5G, and not ipod video :( |
| 13:52:22 | dj-fu | just not with the remote that plugs into the proprietary interface ;] |
| 13:52:26 | DB42 | atleast i hope the 2G ipod nano will be better |
| 13:52:34 | nobosuke | and i can't see properly the pictures with the rockbox |
| 13:52:52 | DB42 | anybody got info on the ipod nano 2G announced next week ? |
| 13:53:17 | dj-fu | meh |
| 13:53:24 | dj-fu | I just replace my nano with a sharp 903sh phone |
| 13:53:28 | dj-fu | & a 4gb miniSD |
| 13:53:30 | DB42 | heh |
| 13:53:34 | nobosuke | anybody knows where rockbox will be able to run videos on ipodvideo? |
| 13:53:45 | dj-fu | Rockbox has an mpeg video plugin |
| 13:53:48 | DB42 | i bought an SE W810I with 1GB card, which is nice |
| 13:53:51 | dj-fu | which works on the Nano (i've tested it) |
| 13:54:08 | dj-fu | I don't think anyone has even started work on using the decoder chip in the ipodvideo |
| 13:54:09 | nobosuke | and the name of plugin? |
| 13:54:18 | dj-fu | it comes default with cvs builds |
| 13:54:25 | dj-fu | but it only plays basic mpeg streams |
| 13:54:26 | dj-fu | no audio |
| 13:54:32 | dj-fu | no other video wrapped in a mpeg container etc |
| 13:54:36 | nobosuke | but how can i run this mpg |
| 13:54:48 | dj-fu | boot into Apples firmware. |
| 13:54:54 | nobosuke | ? |
| 13:55:12 | linuxstb | nobosuke: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 13:55:12 | nobosuke | i mean this plugin you told me |
| 13:55:21 | dj-fu | you just 'click' the mpeg :) |
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| 13:55:28 | DB42 | rofl :) |
| 13:55:38 | itsmeguys | good night all |
| 13:55:38 | nobosuke | danke! |
| 13:55:52 | safetydan | bah, warnings |
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| 13:56:15 | Quarryman | /i itsmeguys|sleep |
| 13:56:42 | nobosuke | everytime i update rockbox i lose all the configuration I made like language, theme, etc how can i save it |
| 13:56:43 | nobosuke | ? |
| 13:58:02 | linuxstb | nobosuke: Go into the Manage Settings options and save your settings to a .cfg file. You can then select that .cfg file in the file browser to load those settings. |
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| 13:59:05 | nobosuke | thank you! |
| 13:59:31 | safetydan | Hrmm... I wonder what the most modified file in Rockbox is? settings.c is up to 414 revisions now |
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| 14:01:23 | nobosuke | so... i can see videos without sound isn't it?¿ |
| 14:01:38 | nobosuke | and what about pictures? it works very bad.... |
| 14:01:59 | linuxstb | nobosuke: Why is the JPEG viewer bad? |
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| 14:02:53 | nobosuke | i try to see the next one |
| 14:02:58 | nobosuke | and it takes a lot of time |
| 14:03:03 | nobosuke | until it changes of picture |
| 14:03:08 | nobosuke | or it doesnt respon |
| 14:03:13 | nobosuke | and it is blocked |
| 14:03:42 | nobosuke | and then it changes when it wants |
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| 14:05:48 | nobosuke | linuxstb any solution? |
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| 14:08:10 | safetydan | Febs, that issue should be fixed now |
| 14:08:14 | safetydan | and to bed for me |
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| 14:11:00 | nobosuke | linuxstb and the picture doesn't fit allt he screen only a little box in the middle |
| 14:11:45 | nobosuke | or it says not enough plugin memory |
| 14:12:04 | nobosuke | or also too large |
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| 14:15:16 | markun | nobosuke: the only solution I can think of is to resize the image before you put it on your player |
| 14:15:34 | linuxstb | (which is what itunes does...) |
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| 15:13:44 | Nico_P | barrywardell: you there ? |
| 15:14:32 | Nico_P | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5940 |
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| 15:21:45 | barrywardell | Nico_P: I'm here now |
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| 15:22:14 | barrywardell | just in the middle of writing a couple of observations |
| 15:24:13 | barrywardell | NIco_P: just posted my comments there now |
| 15:32:46 | Nico_P | barrywardell: OK, i'll answer with a comment |
| 15:37:36 | amiconn | How many buttons are there on the H10, and how are they labeled? |
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| 15:38:24 | barrywardell | 6+scrollpad+hold |
| 15:38:36 | barrywardell | rew, play, ff, power |
| 15:39:16 | barrywardell | <- or left, O or right |
| 15:39:16 | mirak2 | amiconn bits 8 to 11 are used by emac on the MACSR register |
| 15:39:29 | amiconn | Yes, and? |
| 15:39:51 | mirak2 | amiconn they are used to set the overflow flag for acc0 to 3 |
| 15:39:55 | amiconn | They are the overflow/saturation bits, that's why you have to keep them at zero when setting the mode |
| 15:40:28 | amiconn | Otherwise you _set_ them to overflown, which makes subsequent caluclations not work |
| 15:40:39 | amiconn | Clearing the accumulators resets these bits |
| 15:40:40 | mirak2 | 0x080 is same than 0x00000080 ? |
| 15:40:47 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Where are the buttons? I can only see two on this photo: http://www.itreviews.co.uk/graphics/normal/hardware/h766.jpg |
| 15:40:51 | amiconn | yes of course |
| 15:41:03 | mirak2 | yes I am dumb |
| 15:41:38 | Nico_P | linuxstb: REW, FF and PLAY are on the right side |
| 15:41:56 | Nico_P | power is on the left side (you can almost see it) |
| 15:43:17 | * | amiconn thinks this button pad is rather hard to work with |
| 15:44:13 | Arathis | linuxstb: you can see them at the uisim image: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/uisimulator/sdl/UI-h10.bmp?rev=1.1&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 15:44:19 | Arathis | hold is on top btw |
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| 15:46:17 | linuxstb | Arathis: Thanks. |
| 15:46:28 | linuxstb | I agree - it doesn't look Rockbox-friendly. |
| 15:46:51 | barrywardell | it actually works quite well with Rockbox |
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| 15:47:09 | unomystEz | i think i just fried my ipod nano, won't turn on now |
| 15:47:41 | linuxstb | unomystEz: Try holding SELECT and MENU together for a few seconds. |
| 15:48:08 | unomystEz | oh nice |
| 15:48:12 | unomystEz | wtf |
| 15:48:18 | unomystEz | haha, is that some feature of rockbox? :) |
| 15:48:36 | linuxstb | No, it's a hardware reset build into the ipods. |
| 15:48:38 | unomystEz | oh nice, rockbox looks very nice |
| 15:48:48 | unomystEz | linux: ah, the machine probably locked up |
| 15:49:03 | unomystEz | hmm, if i could only code on my nano now |
| 15:49:06 | unomystEz | or read ebooks |
| 15:49:07 | unomystEz | =p |
| 15:49:41 | linuxstb | If your ebook is a plain text file, you can read it in Rockbox. |
| 15:49:48 | unomystEz | heh |
| 15:50:18 | unomystEz | is there a fast way to convert my mp3s from itunes format to plain mp3s? |
| 15:50:37 | linuxstb | I don't understand - an MP3 is an MP3... |
| 15:50:55 | unomystEz | sorry, i mean.... itunes stores the music in another format |
| 15:51:19 | linuxstb | itunes will store it in whatever format you tell it to - MP3, AAC, ALAC, WAV, AIFF.... |
| 15:51:34 | unomystEz | oh really |
| 15:51:38 | unomystEz | ok |
| 15:51:52 | unomystEz | sorry, i'll spend some time to get acquainted with it.. just can't find my music that's all |
| 15:52:24 | linuxstb | When itunes copies files to your ipod, it will rename them to silly names and put them in the iPod_Control folder. |
| 15:52:35 | unomystEz | ah i see |
| 15:52:36 | Nico_P | barrywardell: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5940#comment9954 |
| 15:52:43 | linuxstb | This folder is marked "hidden", and by default Rockbox doesn't show hidden folders. |
| 15:53:26 | linuxstb | unomystEz: This is all explained in the FAQ: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 15:53:30 | unomystEz | just wanna see the sound quality quickly... |
| 15:53:36 | unomystEz | ok i'll check it. thanks |
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| 15:54:30 | barrywardell | Nico_P: I agree with all your comments. What about rearranging the layout of the quickscreen? Would that be difficult to achieve? |
| 15:54:50 | webguest34 | H140, solitare, how do I mov a Ace from the 3 drawn cards to its space ? |
| 15:55:45 | webguest34 | rec button selects the drawn card but I cant figure out how to move the ace to its proper place |
| 15:56:11 | bluebrother | webguest34, double-click it. |
| 15:56:32 | JdGordon | holy crap!!!! my whole setttings/menu revam works! |
| 15:56:33 | Nico_P | barrywardell: i'm not really sure |
| 15:56:40 | webguest34 | I have tired double clicking Navi, no go |
| 15:57:29 | Nico_P | barrywardell: i'll have a look at it, it should be too hard to do |
| 15:57:33 | barrywardell | looks kinda like it's hardcoded in there |
| 15:57:36 | Nico_P | *shouldn't |
| 15:57:44 | Nico_P | ah |
| 15:58:13 | barrywardell | we'd probably need a new gui_quickscreen_draw() |
| 15:58:52 | webguest34 | anyone ?, re: moving ace to its proper place ? |
| 15:59:34 | pixelma | webguest34: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h100/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1120008.1.14 |
| 15:59:36 | bluebrother | webguest34, just tried −− works for me. |
| 15:59:56 | webguest34 | you double click navi ? |
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| 16:00:16 | DB42 | any chance for a rockbox for RIO CARBON ?!?: ) |
| 16:00:17 | DB42 | :) |
| 16:00:41 | bluebrother | you have an ace on the drawn cards and want to move it to the final stack? Yes, I can double click it. It gets moved. |
| 16:01:38 | webguest34 | ok lets swap players then 'cause my is briken then :) |
| 16:02:07 | bluebrother | mine is "only" a h120, you're really sure you want to do that? ;-) |
| 16:02:29 | webguest34 | heh upgrade it with a single platter and we'll talk |
| 16:03:15 | webguest34 | ah select than navigate the cursor onto the ace, got it thanks |
| 16:03:18 | PaulJam | the new animation when you win in solitaire is nice, but unfortunately the sound stops while the animation is shown (on h300 with mp3 playing) |
| 16:03:37 | bluebrother | I guess I'll just stick with mine for now. And when money comes in get a different for more development fun ;-) |
| 16:03:58 | Nico_P | barrywardell: indeed changing gui_quickscreen_draw should do, we just need to add a couple #ifdefs and write a different version for the H10 |
| 16:04:26 | webguest34 | I've got my beady eye on something called Trelstor Vibez, it uses sigmatels/RIO os |
| 16:04:40 | webguest34 | Trekstor Vibez |
| 16:04:43 | barrywardell | Nico_P: yes, we could possibly just change PUTS_CENTER, etc. for the H10 |
| 16:05:50 | PaulJam | what is the nick of Antoine Cellerier on irc? |
| 16:05:55 | Nico_P | barrywardell: yes, if you want i can try to do it and i'll include it in my keympa patch |
| 16:06:16 | merbanan_ | PaulJam: dionoea |
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| 16:06:38 | Nico_P | it's not really top priority for the port ;-) |
| 16:06:44 | PaulJam | thanks |
| 16:06:45 | barrywardell | Nico_P: yes, please. I'm using my H10 with your new keymaps now. Apart from the few things I mentioned in my coment, they really work well |
| 16:07:09 | barrywardell | maybe not top priority, but very nice to have! |
| 16:07:23 | Nico_P | :) |
| 16:07:55 | Nico_P | i'll also try to include consistent plugin keymaps |
| 16:08:15 | Nico_P | and btw, do you have an idea why PGUP and PGDN don't work ? |
| 16:09:09 | barrywardell | the plugins probably need a good bit of work. not just keymaps, but the text sometimes refers to things like 'Press Rec' and we don't even have a rec key |
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| 16:12:07 | barrywardell | I can't see why PGUP and PGDN aren't working |
| 16:14:21 | JdGordon | is the cvs server down? |
| 16:16:39 | JdGordon | cvs diff is taking ages to even start... |
| 16:16:40 | JdGordon | ? |
| 16:20:51 | perplexity | WRT /topic, does anyone have an estimate of the monthly bandwidth consumed running a BuildServer? |
| 16:21:46 | amiconn | dionoea: More solitaire bugs.... |
| 16:23:45 | JdGordon | perplexity: mostly upstream bandwidth... ~1.5mb/build |
| 16:24:22 | amiconn | Except simulator builds, which consume neglectible bandwidth |
| 16:25:43 | perplexity | and rebuilds every time there is a cvs commit ? |
| 16:26:38 | JdGordon | the only network traffic is syncing cvs, upload the build (not sim/boot), and some minor overhead to talk to the build server |
| 16:27:27 | perplexity | hrm.. Ok, I've got a server.. it ain't all that quick Pentium-M 1.5G with 512M ram, but I get 3.5 MB/s each way :) |
| 16:28:53 | PaulJam | dionoea: would it be possible to yield or something while the bouncing cards are shown in solitaire? because on h300 the music pauses shortly after the animation starts. |
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| 16:37:01 | amiconn | PaulJam: Oh right... it doesn't yield at all :( |
| 16:37:38 | amiconn | So it would even stop the music on archos when the buffer runs empty. Might happen depending on how long one watches the bouncing cards |
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| 16:47:24 | Bagder | perplexity: if you can build the biggest simulator in less than 200 secs, you have an interesting server ;-) |
| 16:47:53 | perplexity | I'll set it up and test it Bagder, which is the biggest simulator ?? |
| 16:48:06 | amiconn | I guess any swcodec sim will do |
| 16:48:14 | amiconn | (ipod, iriver, iaudio, gigabeat...) |
| 16:48:25 | Bagder | yeah,swcodec color screen |
| 16:48:43 | amiconn | Do you think colour matters? |
| 16:48:50 | linuxstb | Make sure it includes Doom, Pacbox and the other big plugins. |
| 16:48:50 | perplexity | does the ssh daemon have to be on port 22 ? |
| 16:48:54 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps... for doom and rockboy |
| 16:49:22 | Bagder | perplexity: no, we can probably manage other ports as well |
| 16:49:55 | amiconn | perplexity: Choose an swcodec sim with large colour display (e.g. h300, ipod photo, or ipod video) |
| 16:50:03 | perplexity | groovy, in which case I'll set something up and run some tests in the next couple of days.. just got this shiny new server and it's sitting there twiddling it's thumbs.. |
| 16:50:09 | perplexity | I'll do that amiconn |
| 16:50:40 | Bagder | and make sure you have ccache installed |
| 16:50:51 | perplexity | yeah, I will do for sure.. |
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| 16:56:28 | Davide-NYC | Question: Do the Archos targets have hold buttons? |
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| 16:58:08 | linuxstb | Davide-NYC: I don't think so. But Rockbox has a software hold - a combination to enter/leave hold mode. |
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| 17:00:38 | Davide-NYC | linuxstb: is 'software hold' instantiated by a button combo, if so does it exist for all targets, or just the targets that lack physical hold buttons. |
| 17:00:40 | Davide-NYC | ? |
| 17:01:12 | linuxstb | I would expect it to be there for all targets without a physical hold switch. |
| 17:01:32 | * | Davide-NYC urghh building manual |
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| 17:14:52 | mirak2 | amiconn, I should re-set macsr after a moveclr ? |
| 17:19:49 | mirak2 | ping |
| 17:20:06 | mirak3 | pong ! :D |
| 17:32:08 | amiconn | no |
| 17:32:20 | amiconn | The emac mode is persistent |
| 17:32:35 | amiconn | Just set it once at the start of your routine |
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| 17:34:45 | mirak2 | I still have this artifacts :-/ they appears mostly in the upper left corner, then propagate |
| 17:35:23 | markun | mirak2: is the framerate improving a lot? |
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| 17:35:51 | mirak2 | not a lot |
| 17:35:58 | mirak2 | idct is not the only thing to slow |
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| 17:36:26 | mirak2 | I got a visible performance boost by putting the block on which idct is performed in iram |
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| 17:40:35 | mirak2 | markun actually the function calls are separated |
| 17:41:09 | mirak2 | I will make the row and cols in the same function. it should be faster |
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| 17:51:44 | preglow | mirak2: sounds like you're messing up the dc coefficient |
| 17:52:00 | preglow | that's coded predictively, so the error would spread |
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| 17:53:58 | XavierGr | is it possible to read raw incoming data from a specific port on my computer? (I mean is there a program for that) |
| 17:54:52 | preglow | netcat? |
| 17:56:10 | XavierGr | hmm letme check |
| 17:56:39 | XavierGr | any windoze alternatives? |
| 17:57:03 | XavierGr | let me search |
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| 17:58:24 | preglow | dunno about windows |
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| 18:01:20 | XavierGr | netcat is ported on windows too |
| 18:01:26 | XavierGr | now let's see... |
| 18:02:19 | mirak2 | preglow the thing is that _row in asm works fine with the C version, and vice versa, but not both in asm |
| 18:07:51 | mirak2 | shouldn't I use integer mode ? |
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| 18:08:07 | mirak2 | 0xA0 |
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| 18:13:33 | preglow | yes you should |
| 18:13:40 | preglow | integer mode is just 0x0 in macsr |
| 18:16:51 | mirak2 | bit 6 to 0 means signed mode, but you sure bit 5 doesn't need to be 1 to be in integer mode ? |
| 18:17:14 | mirak2 | the pdf says S/U and F/I . |
| 18:17:53 | mirak2 | I guess first symbol equals bit to 0 and the other bit to 1 |
| 18:17:53 | mirak2 | 0/1 |
| 18:18:03 | preglow | well, the fact that flac decoding seems to work does indicate that i am right |
| 18:20:49 | mirak2 | there is an error in the pdf manual |
| 18:21:38 | preglow | i suggest you check out the movclr instruction documentation to understand those flags |
| 18:21:38 | mirak2 | anyway that also doesn't resolve the problem I have if I don't put 0 in the acc before doing anything, even when doing moveclr |
| 18:21:56 | mirak2 | ok |
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| 18:26:31 | mirak2 | preglow well there is nothing revolutionary |
| 18:26:34 | mirak2 | in thos flags |
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| 18:35:02 | dionoea | amiconn: ? |
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| 18:37:32 | amiconn | dionoea: If you send a card from the remains stack to the final stack using the shortcut, the cursor disappears |
| 18:38:04 | amiconn | And then there is a bad bug in th ecard animation, spotted by Paul_Jam: It doesn't yield at all... |
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| 18:38:28 | dionoea | it also disapears if the remains stack is empty and you move the cursor to it i think |
| 18:38:52 | dionoea | i'll add some yielding |
| 18:39:07 | dionoea | would yielding once at the begining of each card be enough ? |
| 18:40:10 | amiconn | How do you mean that? |
| 18:40:24 | amiconn | You need to yield quite often on swcodec targets |
| 18:40:40 | amiconn | Depending on target, >100 times per second |
| 18:41:14 | amiconn | In this case it's probably better to sleep a tiny bit after each animation step, e.g. by replacing button_get(false) with button_get_w_tmo(1) |
| 18:42:43 | dionoea | i don't want to sleep ... it'll slow it down which definitively isn't a good idea on some ipods |
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| 18:43:41 | amiconn | What's better, skipping (or stopping) music, or slower animation? |
| 18:44:03 | dionoea | stopping music :D |
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| 18:48:07 | preglow | Lear: are those all the changes in tremor svn??? |
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| 18:49:51 | Lear | preglow, those 3 yes. But the one in ogg.h isn't in that file in svn... |
| 18:50:17 | Lear | sorry, misread you, preglow. :) |
| 18:50:41 | Lear | those are the ones I've seen on the svn mailing list, at least. It was a while ago... |
| 18:51:54 | preglow | i don't think we'll see too many tremor changes |
| 18:52:05 | preglow | it isn't really meant as a finished decoder anyway |
| 18:52:27 | preglow | anyone know what's the shiznit when it comes to linux cd ripping these days? |
| 18:52:42 | Lear | particularly so for the lowmem branch... |
| 18:52:49 | dan_a | preglow: Personally I use Konqueror on KDE |
| 18:53:03 | Lear | cdparanoia, and a frontend of some sort? |
| 18:53:16 | preglow | Lear: had a look at the lowmem branch? would it make sense to incorporate some of it? |
| 18:53:39 | Lear | I have, actually, but for other reasons, you could say... |
| 18:54:02 | Lear | It is a different approach to decoding, that changes a fair bit of tremor, so it isn't that easy to port. |
| 18:54:08 | preglow | right |
| 18:54:33 | bluebrother | how about abcde? I like it for encoding cds ;-) |
| 18:54:49 | barrywardell | Bagder: did you get my email earlier with the new bootloaders? |
| 18:54:51 | Lear | The idea is (as far as I've understood it at least) to not fully decode everything upfront, to save memory. But it means chasing tables during decode, which is quite slow for us. |
| 18:55:15 | Lear | But the reason for the slowness is more of a guess from my side, never did any real tests to verify that... |
| 18:56:11 | Slasheri | hmm, what do you think if i just commit the new threading and see the feelings? :) |
| 18:57:12 | * | dionoea votes for it (so he can give it a try) |
| 18:57:36 | bluebrother | does AGC work on MASCODEC? |
| 18:58:10 | Slasheri | and if it causes more trouble than benefits, it should be easy to revert that, or disable the priority scheduling |
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| 19:00:31 | amiconn | Slasheri: DO you have a solution for the iram issue on sh1? |
| 19:00:39 | Slasheri | amiconn: nope :/ |
| 19:00:45 | Slasheri | at least not yet |
| 19:01:03 | Arathis | barrywardell: does wma decoding work for the h10? |
| 19:01:03 | Bagder | barrywardell: got them, haven't done my part just yet |
| 19:02:31 | dan_a | Slasheri: Did you see my comment yesterday about moving add_to_list and remove_from_list in IRAM? |
| 19:02:49 | Slasheri | dan_a: yes, i am still wondering about that. How did you do it? |
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| 19:03:03 | Slasheri | because switch_task is already in IRAM and add_to_list is defined inline.. |
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| 19:04:21 | markun | Arathis: in rockbox or the iriver firmware? |
| 19:04:47 | lowlight | preglow, Lear: At one point I hade Tremor low mem + Sandvall's fft patch working on my h140. |
| 19:04:58 | preglow | lowlight: observations? |
| 19:05:04 | Lear | lowlight: me too. quite slow though. |
| 19:05:06 | dan_a | Add in prototypes for them with the ICODE_ATTR macro. Perhaps the optimizer is deciding not to inline add_to_list? Or maybe I was mistaken, but the UI felt a lot more responsive. |
| 19:05:19 | lowlight | preglow: slow |
| 19:05:34 | preglow | lowlight: the fft patch, btw, is it any good? |
| 19:05:38 | lowlight | but not many optimizations |
| 19:05:56 | Lear | Porting that FFT patch could be nice, unless it requires too much iram for the tables... |
| 19:05:56 | Slasheri | dan_a: hmm, interesting.. |
| 19:06:06 | Strogg | Say.. does rockbox have a pdf viewer? hehe |
| 19:06:12 | Slasheri | dan_a: i have no way to test ui responsiveness with iriver :/ |
| 19:06:33 | Strogg | It'd be wicked to be able to view ebooks on my ipod. hehe |
| 19:06:53 | markun | Strogg: no |
| 19:06:56 | Lear | preglow: when running Tremor lowmem on a PC, the FFT patch made it ~30% faster, iirc. |
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| 19:07:16 | lowlight | preglow: I don't remember my observations on Tremor low mem with and without fft |
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| 19:07:36 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, does ICODE_ATTR on archos anything? |
| 19:07:37 | Strogg | Bummer. |
| 19:07:38 | barrywardell | Bagder: OK. it's only a minor change anyway. would it also be possible to get the H10 manual on the manual builds page? |
| 19:08:00 | markun | preglow: http://130.89.160.166/sandvall-tremor.patch |
| 19:08:17 | barrywardell | Arathis: wma doesn't work with Rockbox at all. someone was working on it, but there hasn't been any progress for a while |
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| 19:09:09 | dan_a | Slasheri: I must have been mistaken - add_to_list doesn't have it's own section in the disassembly of thread.o, so it must have been inlined. Sorry! |
| 19:09:51 | Arathis | barrywardell: oh, right. I seem to have mixed up some lines in the wiki so I saw "WMA Decoding | Yes" |
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| 19:11:21 | Lear | Btw, preglow, when digging around on Freescale a bit, I saw implementations of sin, cos, and a bunch of other stuff, using the emac. Don't know how accurate they are, but they were fairly short, like a dozen instructions or thereabouts. |
| 19:11:26 | Slasheri | dan_a: hehe, weird.. i am still wondering how did you notice the performance increase :) |
| 19:12:00 | preglow | Lear: probably mclaurin approximations |
| 19:12:04 | preglow | Lear: you got an url for me? |
| 19:12:39 | dan_a | Slasheri: Button presses didn't feel like they took as long to get a response while playing MP3s. |
| 19:12:56 | Lear | It was based on doing a couple of iterations of that series, so some sort of approximation, yes. I'll see if I can find an url. |
| 19:13:33 | lowlight | Lear: did you try an asm fft? It was my understanding that that would give the greatest benefit. |
| 19:14:25 | preglow | lowlight: as ffts don't exactly grow on trees for these platforms |
| 19:14:28 | preglow | asm, that is |
| 19:14:40 | Lear | lowlight, no, didn't get that far. Tried replacing the JMULT in the patch with an emac instruction or two, but that had very little effect. |
| 19:14:57 | Lear | Freescale has one. Don't know what kind of license though... |
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| 19:15:27 | preglow | yeah, one, fixed size, using mac, not emac |
| 19:17:18 | dan_a | Slasheri: I've just checked, and thread.o has the same md5sum whether you define add_to_list and remove_from_list as ICODE_ATTR or not. Sorry for wasting your time |
| 19:17:22 | Slasheri | i am also wondering that maybe it could be possible to move cpu_boosting at least partially inside scheduler: it would boost cpu if cpu usage has been at 100% for a certain time or there is a task with realtime priority (codec running at critical pcm buffer) |
| 19:17:34 | Slasheri | dan_a: ok, no problem :) |
| 19:18:06 | amiconn | Slasheri: Not a good idea |
| 19:18:13 | preglow | i don't think so either |
| 19:18:21 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, probably not :) |
| 19:18:38 | amiconn | A thread might not be sleeping because it's waiting for some result from an i/o port |
| 19:18:49 | Lear | preglow: This should be it: http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/CFLMOPM.pdf |
| 19:18:51 | amiconn | Waiting at maximum clock isn't exactly efficient ;) |
| 19:19:00 | Lear | Have some problems accessing it right now though. |
| 19:19:26 | Slasheri | hehe.. but is there that kind of threads that just yield waiting for io? |
| 19:19:55 | preglow | Lear: damn, never saw that, cheers! |
| 19:21:13 | Lear | This also sounds interesting: http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/DSPLIBUM.pdf |
| 19:21:45 | preglow | indeed... |
| 19:21:50 | Lear | But it might just be documentation for code you have to register to get. |
| 19:27:27 | mirak | I already asked but I was wondering if doing a mac acc0 mac acc0 macc acc1 macc1 could be slower than doing mac acc0 mac acc1 macc acc0 macc1 |
| 19:27:52 | mirak | Lear: they talk about pipelining in your doc. |
| 19:29:04 | Lear | mirak: don't see how, really. not read anything to suggest it would be faster at least. |
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| 19:29:47 | mirak | ok |
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| 19:33:30 | preglow | mirak: i don't even understand what you've written |
| 19:36:22 | mirak | mac acc0; mac acc0; mac acc1; mac acc1 |
| 19:36:33 | mirak | mac acc0; mac acc1; mac acc0; mac acc1 |
| 19:37:02 | mirak | interlacing the instructions |
| 19:38:09 | SanAlmighty | hey, should I fully charge my new battery and then fully discharge it before I use it generlly like everyday use? |
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| 19:38:50 | [San] | or can I just charge it and then use it? |
| 19:39:03 | preglow | mirak: doesn't matter how you do it |
| 19:39:11 | preglow | at least that's my understanding |
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| 19:43:07 | preglow | Lear: i think the second doc you pasted has code that's available for all |
| 19:43:20 | preglow | Lear: hmm, but as far as i can remember, that used only mac mode |
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| 19:53:33 | Arathis | are there any benchmark stats for the h10 with rockbox? like battery lifetime or other speedy things compared to the original firmware? |
| 19:53:36 | preglow | Lear: do we want to use gcc4 for coldfire? |
| 19:54:14 | Lear | Don't ask me. :) I've been using it for a couple of days though... |
| 19:55:42 | preglow | just wondering if there's any point |
| 19:56:04 | preglow | no reason to kill performance for the compiler we should use if we don't want to be using gcc4 anyway |
| 19:57:03 | lowlight | linuxstb: How do I interpret what's written to gpio.txt and framebuffer.bin? |
| 19:57:32 | Lear | could be nice to use 4.0.3 for all targets... |
| 19:57:45 | preglow | Lear: last i checked, gcc4 was said to make inferior code on gcc4 |
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| 19:58:50 | Lear | didn't see any huge difference in vorbis decode. and size-wise the difference is small (slightly smaller for rockbox.iriver). it doesn't seem too bad... |
| 19:58:59 | preglow | tried gcc 4.1? |
| 19:59:45 | Lear | Not yet... But I probably will soon. |
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| 20:02:25 | preglow | if we're gonna go gcc 4, we might as well go 4.1 |
| 20:02:39 | Lear | Anyway, any performance impact of my change is small. |
| 20:03:47 | Lear | According to wiki, 4.1.0 can't build Rockbox properly... |
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| 20:15:17 | Slasheri | hmm, i have made now the scheduler even more advanced/efficient |
| 20:15:26 | Slasheri | it separates now running, sleeping and blocked tasks |
| 20:15:48 | Slasheri | no task switching even in kernel queue / mutex loops to check the condition |
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| 20:16:20 | Slasheri | kernel just wakes up the task when it receives an even in the queue |
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| 20:17:45 | LinusN | Slasheri: is a more advanced kernel really what we want? |
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| 20:19:33 | Slasheri | LinusN: Hmm.. i think efficiency in the threading is always a good thing, and in some way it makes to code cleaner because processes are separated in logical lists |
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| 20:20:07 | linuxstb_ | lowlight: Are you talking about the files written by the Elio bootloader? |
| 20:20:14 | Slasheri | but i still have to do more testing with that |
| 20:20:30 | DB42 | anybody here involved in the team that cracked the H320 or other player's firmware's encryption ? |
| 20:20:54 | dionoea | DB42: that would be MrH. Nobody (except Bagder maybe) knows who he is |
| 20:21:08 | lowlight | linuxstb_: yes and no...they were written by an Olympus m:robe MR-100 :) |
| 20:21:15 | LinusN | Slasheri: i'm just worried that the scheduler won't be KISS anymore |
| 20:21:22 | linuxstb_ | lowlight: So you're starting a new port? |
| 20:21:26 | DB42 | i'm trying to find out how to find my rio carbon's encryption |
| 20:22:03 | dionoea | DB42: i guess that you could send the bootloader and firmware files to Bagder so he can forward them to MrH. Check his webpage about mi4 files |
| 20:22:07 | Slasheri | LinusN: hmm, i have still tried to keep it as simple as possible.. but maybe i will drop that blocked process separating if it looks like it could become complex (currently it's still very simple addition to the code) |
| 20:22:22 | DB42 | what is the bootloader files ? |
| 20:22:31 | dionoea | DB42: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 20:22:32 | DB42 | i mean how do i access them... |
| 20:23:04 | preglow | Slasheri: i don't really think your current scheduler code is very complex |
| 20:23:04 | dionoea | if your player is mi4 based of course :) if it's something else ... that won't be very helpfull i guess |
| 20:23:11 | preglow | it's not as simple as possible anymore, of course |
| 20:23:11 | lowlight | linuxstb_: maybe :) |
| 20:23:12 | dionoea | .mi4 and .rom files can be found in updates |
| 20:23:13 | amiconn | mirak: How should that kind of interlacing have an effect on execution times? All those instructions use the same single emac unit. |
| 20:23:28 | LinusN | Slasheri: i must agree that your addition is pretty straightforward |
| 20:23:55 | DB42 | dionoea: my update has only one .bin file |
| 20:23:59 | * | amiconn thinks that Slasheri must be a linked list addict |
| 20:24:05 | DB42 | i think they have their own closed system |
| 20:24:05 | preglow | linked lists are good |
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| 20:24:21 | Slasheri | amiconn :D linked lists are just handy :) |
| 20:24:22 | dionoea | DB42: hum ... ok. Well you might want to ask experienced people here about it |
| 20:24:34 | mirak | amiconn: if you say it |
| 20:24:35 | lowlight | we need linked lists for the track_info |
| 20:24:37 | DB42 | i am w8ing for them to talk to me :) (dont know people here) |
| 20:24:49 | preglow | lowlight: were you the one with the metadata on buffer patch? |
| 20:25:02 | amiconn | linked lists can be useful, yes. But in some places they're just overkill imho |
| 20:25:09 | Slasheri | amiconn: and i have seen linked lists used often in small realtime kernels :) |
| 20:25:16 | mirak | amiconn: I interlaced anyway, that's more readable |
| 20:25:44 | preglow | amiconn: sure, like everything else, but they're a logical choice in this context |
| 20:26:40 | lowlight | preglow: yes, but I haven't gotten any further than when I last spoke on the subject. |
| 20:26:57 | markun | DB42: in the OSX update I see a file called rio-carbon-tnt-v1.43.lok |
| 20:27:07 | markun | perhaps it's the same as your .bin file |
| 20:27:48 | DB42 | how is OSX releated to rio carbon ?!? |
| 20:28:15 | markun | http://www.rioaudio.com/support/rio/product.asp?prodID=215 |
| 20:28:38 | DB42 | ahh, i see |
| 20:28:51 | DB42 | the rio carbon firmware is a .bin file which is embeeded as a resource in the rio updater .exe |
| 20:29:10 | DB42 | it uses sigmatel, not portalplayer h/w |
| 20:29:13 | DB42 | so i dont think it's mi4 |
| 20:29:33 | DB42 | but the firmware (.bin) file is encrtyped in some XOR fashion |
| 20:29:52 | DB42 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_Carbon |
| 20:30:51 | [San] | anyone else getting codec failure on the latest H300? |
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| 20:30:56 | amiconn | dionoea: If you want to speed up card animation on ipods (and colour targets in general), don't do a full lcd_update() after every step. |
| 20:31:12 | amiconn | Instead, lcd_update_rect() just the area of the new-drawn card |
| 20:31:16 | dionoea | amiconn: good idea |
| 20:31:45 | amiconn | That should give more than enough room even for sleeping one tick inbetween |
| 20:31:55 | amiconn | ...without making the animation slower than it is now |
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| 20:35:24 | markun | DB42: which Sigmatel chip is in the Carbon? |
| 20:35:42 | DB42 | http://www.reed-electronics.com/eb-mag/article/CA603499.html?industryid=43314 says it's the 3500 family |
| 20:36:31 | amiconn | Lear: Do you mean gcc 4.0.3 for coldfire? |
| 20:37:03 | Lear | yes |
| 20:37:54 | mirak | would their be a way to disable UMS even when the cable is plugued but the device is umounted ? |
| 20:38:04 | amiconn | LinusN: What do you think about changing the iram splitting between core and codecs/plugins on X5 a bit? |
| 20:38:22 | amiconn | 64K/64K would ensure all core iram to be dma capable |
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| 20:39:46 | LinusN | sure |
| 20:40:09 | senab | can you do a CVS against the whole rockbox-devel folder? |
| 20:40:15 | senab | *CVS diff... |
| 20:40:21 | LinusN | yes |
| 20:40:40 | senab | can you tell me the command Linus? thanks |
| 20:40:47 | LinusN | cd rockbox-devel |
| 20:40:50 | LinusN | cvs diff -u |
| 20:40:55 | DB42 | markun: tells you anything ? |
| 20:41:00 | markun | no |
| 20:41:28 | senab | will create a diff for the whole folder though, i thought i'd have to select the files by using -u |
| 20:41:42 | LinusN | the -u is to get a unified diff |
| 20:41:44 | amiconn | LinusN: In fact that should be possible with no other chages, and it would even keep backward compatibility for codecs & plugins |
| 20:41:51 | senab | infact ignore me, yep just though what the -u does |
| 20:41:57 | senab | thanks linus |
| 20:42:00 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 20:42:17 | markun | DB42: google tells me it's used in many players, but I can't find any information on the architecture of this chip |
| 20:42:21 | amiconn | The core uses ~43.7KB of IRAM on X5 |
| 20:42:27 | DB42 | :( |
| 20:42:52 | markun | Ah, it's called STMP3500 |
| 20:43:16 | senab | infact lately i've been reading the todo pages, and saw viewports, what exactly will they do (hopefully)? |
| 20:43:31 | DB42 | markun: thats a system ona chip, yeah? |
| 20:43:39 | dionoea | senab: they'll be like windows i think |
| 20:43:47 | markun | DB42: yes |
| 20:43:57 | DB42 | an ARM cpu ? |
| 20:44:03 | markun | No idea |
| 20:44:08 | amiconn | Iirc it's motorola 56K based |
| 20:44:11 | amiconn | No gcc |
| 20:44:12 | senab | dionoea: like cells in a table? |
| 20:44:26 | DB42 | amiconn: the STMP3500 ? |
| 20:44:28 | amiconn | yes |
| 20:44:32 | dionoea | no, like windows on your computer's display |
| 20:44:44 | DB42 | what about the prospects of hacking it's firmware encryption ? |
| 20:44:52 | DB42 | i just need to find the font table to add hebrew support :) |
| 20:44:59 | dionoea | amiconn: are you the person doing the viewports thing ? |
| 20:45:03 | mirak | amiconn: is it really profitable to have the core in iram ? |
| 20:45:11 | amiconn | ?? |
| 20:45:23 | mirak | well rockbox data |
| 20:45:27 | mirak | I don't know what is in |
| 20:45:31 | markun | DB42: just sell it and get a rockbox capable player :) |
| 20:45:41 | rageahol | thats no fun |
| 20:45:43 | DB42 | markun: nah, it rocks as-is i just need hebrew support in the font atble |
| 20:45:45 | amiconn | dionoea: Yes, I am planning the viewports thing |
| 20:45:58 | rageahol | i am overjoyed at the new h10 port |
| 20:46:08 | markun | rageahol: we noticed ;) |
| 20:46:10 | dionoea | amiconn: ok, great :) |
| 20:46:17 | dionoea | senab: you now know who to ask :) |
| 20:46:31 | senab | dionoea: thanks |
| 20:46:35 | DB42 | it's one of the first micro players, and it's firmware TOTALLY rocks, it has everything :) |
| 20:46:52 | senab | amiconn: what's the main purpose of the viewports then? |
| 20:46:53 | dionoea | it can't rock without rockbox support |
| 20:47:03 | linuxstb_ | DB42: Is it gapless? |
| 20:47:14 | markun | crossfeed? |
| 20:47:19 | dionoea | games? |
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| 20:48:11 | amiconn | senab: The main purpose is to make gui layout easier. Today, many places need to check for conditions and adapt position themselves |
| 20:48:47 | markun | linuxstb_: what's this guy talking about? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6328.0 |
| 20:48:51 | amiconn | ...e.g. the list widget needs to know whether the status bar (and/or button bar on recorders) is enabled, and change placement of elements accordingly |
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| 20:49:04 | DB42 | linuxstb: nop :) |
| 20:49:07 | DB42 | but it's pretty fast |
| 20:49:19 | amiconn | With viewports, it becomes much easier to deal with that |
| 20:49:49 | dionoea | will viewports also restore the background lcd data when closed ? |
| 20:50:13 | mirak | in idct.c #if !defined(CPU_COLDFIRE) && !defined(CPU_ARM) |
| 20:50:26 | amiconn | Viewports should also help adding true hebrew/arabic support to lists (right adjusted text and scrollbar at the right for rtl scripts) |
| 20:50:31 | amiconn | dionoea: Nope |
| 20:50:34 | dionoea | k |
| 20:50:35 | mirak | should it be an OR instead of a AND ??? |
| 20:50:37 | amiconn | They won't back-buffer |
| 20:50:41 | mirak | shouldn't |
| 20:50:53 | amiconn | mirak: Nope |
| 20:51:20 | mirak | hup yep |
| 20:51:24 | amiconn | Then the condition would always be true |
| 20:51:31 | markun | mirak: !a && !b is the same as !(a || b) |
| 20:52:10 | amiconn | dionoea: Back-buffering would pretty much require dynamic memory allocation, a thing that we don't want in rockbox |
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| 20:52:54 | mirak | markun: yes I know. (I shouldn't say I know :) ) |
| 20:53:00 | | Part byti1 |
| 20:53:19 | amiconn | They will just make a sub-rectangle of the lcd behave like the whole thing, i.e. (0,0) will be the top-left corner, and clipping ensures no drawing to exceed the viewport boundaries |
| 20:53:23 | arj | to anyone who has contributed anything to rockbox. Thanks for a really great piece of software! |
| 20:53:33 | dionoea | amiconn: ok |
| 20:54:40 | amiconn | They will also have a few associated properties, like fg/bg colour, text alignment, draw mode, font (and perhaps later also font style) |
| 20:56:01 | senab | sounds good amiconn |
| 20:57:16 | DB42 | so, anybody has tips on how to work around the rio carbon? |
| 20:59:13 | markun | DB42: what made you think it's a XOR based encryption? (I'm not saying it isn't) |
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| 21:00:56 | DB42 | markun: since i (with a help from people of here amognst other) see a pattern in the .bin file (you can d/l it and check) |
| 21:01:03 | DB42 | and when i XORed it, lots of places turnde to 0s |
| 21:02:05 | markun | XORed it with what? |
| 21:02:25 | DB42 | with the pattern in the end of the file |
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| 21:02:40 | mirak | amiconn: the image is at some point well decoded, I can see it by doing a pause. I think I frames are fines. But I noticed that the (0,0) dot, so in the upper left corner, is darkened just after that iframe, and it get worth and worth. It's like if (%[block]) takes the value 0 at some point. |
| 21:02:52 | DB42 | i even wrote a generic XORing program :) http://tom.zickel.org/code/xorit.c |
| 21:04:19 | mirak | but I don't see how it can happen in the two functions I did. maybe a problem with clobbered registers, or a wrong move. |
| 21:04:49 | mirak | http://rafb.net/paste/results/QOFUWc65.html |
| 21:06:20 | DB42 | IDCT nice |
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| 21:08:11 | mirak | in mpeg2_decoder_s structure you have contigously declared int16_t dc_dct_pred[3];int16_t DCTblock[64] ATTR_ALIGN(64); maybe the preceding array is cleared to far at some point |
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| 21:09:51 | DB42 | markun? |
| 21:10:29 | markun | yes? |
| 21:10:52 | DB42 | you just asked for general info ? :) |
| 21:13:00 | DB42 | "Registration for the Google Code Jam 2006 is officially closed. " NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
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| 21:29:09 | Febs | linuxstb: I see you're reading that forum thread by one of our satisfied customers. Is there any difference in the button handling code for the mini compared to other ipods? (excepting, obviously, the 3g) |
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| 21:32:24 | linuxstb_ | Febs: AFAIK, the driver for the 2nd gen mini is the same as all the later ipods. So if Rockbox is still working on the Nano, 5g etc, it should be fine on the mini 2nd gen. |
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| 21:33:14 | Paul_The_Nerd | Could it simply be that there's a typo in the button action/context stuff? |
| 21:33:54 | lowlight | linuxstb_: From the mrobe mr-100: gpio.txt = C0 3F F7 B7 AF FF 50 00 9B ED FE 10 |
| 21:34:21 | lowlight | linuxstb_: and how do I know the memory address of the framebuffer? |
| 21:35:01 | dionoea | black magic should be able to tell you that |
| 21:35:35 | linuxstb_ | lowlight: You don't know the address of the framebuffer... That address may not even be right for the Elio. |
| 21:36:07 | linuxstb_ | lowlight: I used the gpio.txt to see what buttons were attached to GPIO pins - so try booting with different buttons held down, and see if the GPIO values change. |
| 21:36:37 | linuxstb_ | lowlight: Do you know what hardware is inside the mrobe? |
| 21:37:24 | Febs | linuxstb_: thanks, that's what I thought. |
| 21:37:51 | linuxstb_ | Paul_The_Nerd: Maybe - but does Rockbox still work fine on your Nano? |
| 21:38:16 | linuxstb_ | The mini definitely shares the same action mappings as the Nano - they are the same for all ipods. |
| 21:38:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah |
| 21:38:52 | Paul_The_Nerd | So, everyone should have this if anyone does |
| 21:39:04 | lowlight | linuxstb_: PP5020. Unfortunately there's a metal frame soldered onto the board to hold the battery and drive that obscures several of the chips. Don't know about the lcd either. |
| 21:39:25 | lowlight | if things are promising I might buy a broken one on ebay to disassemble. |
| 21:40:20 | lowlight | actually, mine has a broken headphone jack, so I might need parts anyway. |
| 21:40:31 | LinusN | i thought the m-robe players were all dm320 |
| 21:41:31 | lowlight | The mrobe mr-500 is. |
| 21:41:35 | Febs | Paul_The_Nerd: I wonder if the guy installed the wrong build. That was going to be my next question to him. (It probably would have taken about 4 questions to get an answer, but whatever.) |
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| 21:41:54 | linuxstb_ | Febs: That's very possible - the two minis have different button drivers. |
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| 21:43:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | Febs: You may want to ask that then. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets indignant about you asking him that, though. |
| 21:44:02 | Febs | Thanks, but I've wasted enough time on him. For what it's worth, I think that it was me he was calling a pretentious asshole, not you, given that he referred to the "forum mod" button. |
| 21:44:15 | Febs | Maybe we need a new badge! |
| 21:44:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 21:45:07 | Davide-NYC | Guys I a tiny bit confused. Making icons for Mmmm. He told me to make them 7 pixels tall. Isn't the statusbar 8 pixels tall? |
| 21:45:44 | Paul_The_Nerd | Davide-NYC: I think the 8th one is a blank row on the bottom. |
| 21:45:59 | Paul_The_Nerd | Of the bar |
| 21:46:05 | Davide-NYC | The system font fits, and letters like "Q" go all the way down |
| 21:46:10 | * | Paul_The_Nerd shrugs |
| 21:46:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | Dunno. |
| 21:46:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | Febs: I'd assumed that I was the pretentious asshole for telling him that he'd lost all sympathy from me for simply using the wrong process. |
| 21:47:31 | Davide-NYC | I think if I am making bitmaps for overlay they should be 8 pixels tall to conform to the system font height... anyone have an idea? |
| 21:47:52 | pixelma | Davide-NYC: all icons in tha statusbar are 7 pixels high (made 2 myself)... |
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| 21:48:22 | Davide-NYC | OK, I'm going with 7. |
| 21:48:24 | Davide-NYC | thanks' |
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| 22:04:17 | Niacin | interesting |
| 22:06:17 | LinusN | yes, isn't it? |
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| 22:09:51 | preglow | is indeed |
| 22:14:54 | pixelma | this left-right-scrolling thing is annoying... it interferes with the file context menu on Ondio every other build and can't be set in a menu... :/ |
| 22:16:54 | preglow | i still think it should be reverted |
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| 22:18:39 | pixelma | gets my vote obviously |
| 22:19:08 | Arathis | which of the rockbox "standard" themes don't have peak meter? |
| 22:19:25 | barrywardell | iCatcher doesn't |
| 22:20:08 | Arathis | and barrywardell: is there a way to just straight back to the WPS by hitting a button anywhere in the menus? (H10) |
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| 22:20:47 | barrywardell | there is work underway to change the buttons to be more intuitive |
| 22:21:01 | barrywardell | i'm not sure if it works already, but play will do that |
| 22:21:10 | Arathis | good to here |
| 22:21:50 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5940 |
| 22:21:56 | Arathis | btw how can I disable fading in? I thought I did that before |
| 22:21:59 | barrywardell | that's the revised keymap proposal |
| 22:22:27 | Arathis | barrywardell: I read it in the IRC some hours ago when Nico_P called you for this |
| 22:23:11 | Arathis | but rockbox really .. rocks! :D |
| 22:24:08 | Arathis | but I think I'll wait till radio, recording are included and some optimizations where made. |
| 22:24:20 | Niacin | Interesting |
| 22:24:24 | Niacin | preglow here? |
| 22:25:01 | preglow | yeah |
| 22:25:40 | Arathis | for example the battery lifetime and the battery status. I thought my battery was low when first running rockbox. especially because the backlight time was 5seconds and I thought it shut down by himself :) |
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| 22:27:08 | barrywardell | it seems to take a few seconds before the battery level is shown properly. Untill then it reads empty. 'm not too sure why that happens. must look into it |
| 22:27:09 | Bagder | barrywardell: h10 manual(s) added |
| 22:27:32 | Niacin | what the status of serial i/o in rockbox? |
| 22:27:46 | barrywardell | great, thanks. In that case I'll direct Arathis to the manual for his fading question :) |
| 22:28:05 | Bagder | everyone likes a good "rtfm" ;-) |
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| 22:28:33 | Arathis | barrywardell, Nico_P: would it be possible to inlcude pressing <- long to go back to the main menu as in the iriver firmware? |
| 22:28:36 | linuxstb_ | Niacin: On what device? |
| 22:28:59 | Niacin | sorry i should of been more specific |
| 22:29:03 | Niacin | the 5g video ipod |
| 22:29:12 | Arathis | barrywardell: haha. face your responsibilities! |
| 22:29:16 | Arathis | :P |
| 22:29:26 | linuxstb_ | Niacin: AFAIK, no-one has done any work on it. |
| 22:29:45 | barrywardell | Arathis: add it as a suggestion to the bug report. It's all open to debate at the moment |
| 22:30:22 | Arathis | Bagder: so why again did I install the whole latex things to make the manual from CVS? ... :rolleyes: |
| 22:30:43 | Bagder | Arathis: to be able to make corrections/updates and submit patches? |
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| 22:31:14 | Arathis | if I had the time and knowledge about latex..perhaps |
| 22:31:31 | Bagder | if you check the files, you'll see that it isn't _that_ magic |
| 22:31:35 | barrywardell | is it normal rockbox behaviour for the battery level to read empty for the first minute or so? or is that a H10 bug I need to look at? |
| 22:31:43 | Arathis | rockbox is so freaking fast :D (at least compared to the iriver firmware..) |
| 22:32:09 | preglow | barrywardell: h10 bug |
| 22:32:17 | Niacin | linuxstb I'm not that familiar with rockbox. What sort of compatibility does it have with Linux? |
| 22:32:20 | barrywardell | :( |
| 22:32:37 | Niacin | I mean i was about to start reversing the 5g serial port for Linux |
| 22:33:04 | Niacin | Is it going to be complex to port? |
| 22:33:06 | Bagder | Niacin: Rockbox is a completely separate thing we no connection to Linux |
| 22:33:11 | Bagder | with no |
| 22:33:15 | Niacin | i understand that |
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| 22:33:31 | Niacin | maybe i explained this wrong. My fault |
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| 22:34:28 | Niacin | this is interesting on the site |
| 22:34:31 | Niacin | Every night at 6am CET |
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| 22:34:36 | Arathis | barrywardell: just noticed that when sliding through my songs while playing music the music stops playing periodly. just as with a theme with peak meter. probably the same issue |
| 22:34:36 | Niacin | Daily builds |
| 22:35:04 | barrywardell | yes, probably the cpu can't keep up |
| 22:36:29 | Bagder | Niacin: yeps, we like offering many builds ;-) |
| 22:36:31 | Arathis | barrywardell: is CPU frequency scaling enabled in todays builds? |
| 22:36:40 | amiconn | preglow: (one-button horizontal scrolling) Revert it completely, add a proper option on targets where it makes sense, or another solution? |
| 22:36:58 | barrywardell | Arathis: nope, it's still disabled |
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| 22:38:14 | preglow | amiconn: i wouldn't like another option, that's for sure |
| 22:38:19 | preglow | but i don't like how it works now either |
| 22:38:43 | amiconn | Well, you don't even experience the most annoying effects on your targets |
| 22:38:52 | preglow | sure |
| 22:39:04 | amiconn | On ipod etc, it 'just' makes navigation somewhat sluggish |
| 22:39:21 | amiconn | On Ondio, it completely blocks access to the context menu |
| 22:40:14 | amiconn | Other opinions regarding one-button horizontal scrolling? |
| 22:40:46 | Jason | i like that one button horizontal scrolling |
| 22:40:57 | * | amiconn is tempted to remove it, leaving only the button-combo version for targets where it's possible |
| 22:41:12 | Jason | that was what i wanted since i got my h20 |
| 22:41:29 | Arathis | when starting a file from the list a poup shows up searching for something and counting. what is this for? preload or something? |
| 22:41:52 | amiconn | But maybe I am biased - I don't see the benefit in horizontal scrolling at all, even on small lcds |
| 22:42:04 | pixelma | and how can one implement such a feature if it cannot be set on the unit (only by using .cfg which I cannot even edit when I can't reach the file context menu...)? |
| 22:42:38 | Jason | i would like to see that the cursor would stay in the midle of screen |
| 22:42:40 | Niacin | Bagder every night at 6am ? |
| 22:42:44 | * | amiconn avoids miles-long filenames |
| 22:42:48 | Niacin | i think it should be every night at 6pm no? |
| 22:42:57 | preglow | amiconn: have can you not see the benefit? |
| 22:42:59 | Bagder | why? |
| 22:43:03 | preglow | i never use it, but i can see the benefit |
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| 22:43:32 | Niacin | I guess youre not familiar with English |
| 22:43:46 | Bagder | ?? |
| 22:43:53 | * | Arathis looks elephants dream on his H10 is *really* amazed! |
| 22:44:18 | Jason | yes... i was amazed with that video too |
| 22:44:43 | Jason | but i would like to encode some videos, sice VLC is not working allways as it should |
| 22:44:51 | Jason | *transcode |
| 22:45:06 | dionoea | did you try forcing fps to something else when it failed ? |
| 22:45:19 | Jason | nope |
| 22:45:28 | Jason | i used that .bat file |
| 22:45:47 | Jason | and sometimes there are just funky colors |
| 22:45:51 | Strogg | I have a .cat file. |
| 22:46:06 | * | Strogg inserts 2bit humour and wanders off again. |
| 22:46:32 | Arathis | Jason: I watched it before on my pc ans was amazed about the video. *now* I'm amazed about rockbox :) |
| 22:46:45 | dionoea | Jason: does it also have funky colors when you play the .m2v file in VLC ? |
| 22:46:50 | lowlight | grrrr...the battery on my mrobe mr-100 won't hold a charge anymore...just when I was figuring out the button code |
| 22:47:00 | Jason | dionoea: dont know |
| 22:47:06 | lowlight | I wonder if an ipod mini battery would work |
| 22:47:35 | Arathis | just waiting for sound and the ability to use forward and rewind to search the video as a music file |
| 22:47:35 | Jason | dionoea: wait i will take a look |
| 22:47:36 | Bagder | lowlight: you fiddling with mrobe? |
| 22:48:36 | Jason | dionoea: yes on vlc there are those funky colors too |
| 22:48:45 | dionoea | weird :) |
| 22:48:51 | Jason | yep |
| 22:48:55 | lowlight | Bagder: yes...using the Tatung Elio bootloader |
| 22:49:03 | dionoea | and the original file playsback fine on VLC ? |
| 22:49:09 | Bagder | ah, cool. a PP-based thing... |
| 22:49:14 | Jason | dionoea: yes |
| 22:49:22 | Arathis | barrywardell: found a solution for the fading poblem here :D |
| 22:49:48 | barrywardell | in the manual? |
| 22:50:06 | Jason | dionoea: and sometimes i get only a m2v file with sound and no picture |
| 22:50:49 | Arathis | barrywardell: yes. it was Fade On Stop/Pause I overlooked |
| 22:51:03 | Arathis | to much menus for a little iriver user ^^ |
| 22:51:17 | Jason | lol and now there is a video where on h10 are funky colors but in vlc nothing |
| 22:52:52 | Arathis | is there a "video progress thread" in the forum? I'd like to know when sound is available :) |
| 22:53:03 | * | barrywardell likes having a H10 manual now |
| 22:53:24 | * | Arathis too |
| 22:53:41 | Bagder | aha, I even had an mrobe mi4 on my page |
| 22:53:54 | * | Bagder is getting senile |
| 22:54:37 | Arathis | barrywardell: battery lifetime *really* needs to be optimized as I see it (if possible and you have time enough). I nearly can see how it drains out of power :( |
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| 22:55:28 | Arathis | okay, I watched a video, that may have needed some more power than the music |
| 22:55:37 | Hey | After installing Rockbox and playing with it for a few days, i noticed low battery life (only 6 hrs on my X5L) |
| 22:55:38 | Arathis | but even before that |
| 22:55:39 | barrywardell | Arathis: AFAIK it's a problem that affects all PortalPlayer devices that Rockbox supports |
| 22:56:02 | barrywardell | also disabling cpu frequency scaling will probably affect the battery badly |
| 22:56:10 | markun | Niacin: are you talking about serial i/o to talk to ipod accessories? |
| 22:56:16 | Hey | Then reinstalled cowon firmware and am down to 3 hours now :( |
| 22:56:30 | Arathis | so you can blame it on the other devs and the people at PortalPlayer for now :P |
| 22:56:36 | Arathis | just kidding |
| 22:57:15 | barrywardell | blame it on the portalplayer people for not letting us have documentation :) |
| 22:57:29 | Arathis | okay, point taken |
| 22:57:41 | Jason | barrywardell: they cant give you documentation?? |
| 22:57:47 | Jason | *the |
| 22:58:01 | barrywardell | you have to sign a NDA to get it |
| 22:58:09 | amiconn | dionoea: Yet another solitaire bug :( On X5, it's impossible to stop the card animation... |
| 22:58:25 | dionoea | seriously ? |
| 22:58:28 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:58:36 | dionoea | QUIT / DRAW should work |
| 22:58:37 | amiconn | The only way is to force a shutdown |
| 22:58:43 | amiconn | It doesn't |
| 22:58:52 | dionoea | or maybe i hadn't commited that yet |
| 22:59:01 | Jason | barrywardell: those **** :) |
| 22:59:31 | markun | Hey: how old is your rockbox build? |
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| 22:59:40 | Arathis | barrywardell: what's an NDA? oO |
| 22:59:51 | dionoea | amiconn: Power or Play don't quit ? |
| 22:59:59 | amiconn | Nope, no button does |
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| 23:00:20 | amiconn | Another strange thing is that the 'default' background colour in the menu looks different from the real default background (observed both on H300 and X5) |
| 23:00:41 | Hey | was build from August 3rd |
| 23:00:43 | barrywardell | Arathis: Non-Disclosure Agreement. |
| 23:00:49 | Jason | Arathis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement |
| 23:00:52 | Hey | then august 5th i uninstalled it again |
| 23:00:56 | markun | Hey: I think you should be able to get between 14 and 24 hours playback: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5204.0 |
| 23:01:00 | dionoea | amiconn: rb->lcd_set_background( LCD_DEFAULT_BG ); |
| 23:01:01 | dionoea | rb->lcd_set_foreground( LCD_DEFAULT_FG ); |
| 23:01:05 | amiconn | Hmm, now it works... strange |
| 23:01:06 | dionoea | how can that be different ? |
| 23:01:07 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:01:19 | * | amiconn re-checks on H340 |
| 23:01:24 | Hey | i know.. i used to have about 12 - 15 hrs playing OGG and FLAC and mp3 @ 320 but with rockbox came down to 6 hrs only |
| 23:01:41 | Hey | then after reinstalling cowon firmware down to 3 hrs only |
| 23:01:52 | amiconn | really odd |
| 23:01:59 | markun | so it's your battery.. |
| 23:02:13 | Hey | looks like... but why ? strange no ? |
| 23:02:20 | markun | Yes, weird |
| 23:02:35 | markun | How old is your X5L? |
| 23:02:35 | Arathis | barrywardell: so even if we would sign an NDA and get the docs it would only help us if we would keep this part of the source out of public? :/ |
| 23:02:46 | Hey | slightly more than a year so no more warranty :( |
| 23:03:17 | markun | Is it easy to find a new battery? |
| 23:03:39 | Hey | havent really looked yet, i was hoping someone could tell me that i did something wrong and how to fix it... |
| 23:03:48 | barrywardell | Arathis: yes, exactly. |
| 23:03:55 | markun | For my iriver H120 I was able to buy a very cheap ipod 1/2g battery. |
| 23:04:25 | Hey | maybe i should use my insurance... |
| 23:04:35 | Jason | barrywardell: rockbox could sign that NDA :) |
| 23:04:51 | Bagder | Jason: it wouldn't help us |
| 23:04:56 | Jason | oh |
| 23:04:59 | Hey | "yes sir, it just fell out of my hand and right underneath that bus-tyre..." |
| 23:05:03 | Bagder | since using the knowledge in public code is disclosure |
| 23:05:41 | Bagder | so we can't sign NDAs and then use that knowledge to write Rockbox code |
| 23:05:48 | markun | Hey: http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10538&page=3 |
| 23:05:58 | dionoea | or you can do so and go in prison :) |
| 23:06:28 | Bagder | hm, yes we can have one person do that and we can then all promise to send that person post cards while he serves time! |
| 23:06:28 | markun | Hey: sorry, check page 1 |
| 23:06:50 | dionoea | Bagder: that'd be neat :) I'll send a postcard |
| 23:06:50 | * | Arathis thinks MrH has a documentaion for PortalPlayers and so could provide barry with this very helpful tips ^^ |
| 23:06:54 | Bagder | hahaha |
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| 23:07:33 | Hey | Thanks markun: i saw that before but I have 2 left hands... electronics is definitely not my thing |
| 23:08:10 | Jason | Bagder: you would sign it and you wouldnt make that part open source :) |
| 23:08:30 | Arathis | and on every postcard we ask about a solution for problem X. that way he'd be busy :D |
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| 23:09:32 | Arathis | Jason: that way Bagder would need to code really much 'cause no one else could do it |
| 23:09:46 | Arathis | would't be the best way, right |
| 23:09:55 | Jason | im just thinking loud |
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| 23:11:55 | Arathis | at least *that* is still alowed in most parts of our beloved planet |
| 23:12:49 | barrywardell | Nico_P: i made another couple of comments on the keymaps |
| 23:13:59 | amiconn | dionoea: On H300, exiting the animation works... |
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| 23:14:56 | amiconn | ..although with a strange glitch: Pressing stop makes the backlight go off for a fraction of a second, the animation stops, then the disk spins up and finally the menu appears |
| 23:15:06 | amiconn | I wonder why th edisk spins up there... |
| 23:15:13 | dionoea | .cfg writing i think |
| 23:15:19 | dionoea | but that shouldn't be needed |
| 23:15:25 | dionoea | i noticed that too yesterday |
| 23:15:43 | Arathis | so, barrywardell , what are the *main* issues on the H10 to do? :) |
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| 23:16:41 | dionoea | amiconn: hum, it's not configfile_save .... except if that waits for the plugin to exit to actually write to the disk |
| 23:16:57 | barrywardell | radio, recording, better scrollpad, better keymaps, cpu frequency scaling, make plugins work on smaller 5/6 GB screen, better battery life,... |
| 23:17:17 | Jason | a lot of work |
| 23:17:26 | barrywardell | and of course the manual |
| 23:18:21 | dionoea | amiconn: maybe the disk spin up is because the file browser list needs to be updated after plugin execution ? (i really don't know rockbox internals well enough) |
| 23:18:30 | preglow | are the "do not post in these" forums supposed to stay visible? |
| 23:18:34 | Arathis | barrywardell: thinking about the dualboot problem: as far as I read with RoLo it should be possible to load the original firmware out of rockbox, right? |
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| 23:19:59 | Davide-NYC | Found a bug in FM screen. Saving FM presets requires two NAV presses on an H120. Do I bother reporting it? |
| 23:20:08 | barrywardell | i was thinking about that myself too. I imagine if we can get dualboot working, we can also do it within Rockbox. It's fairly low down on that list of priorities though |
| 23:20:46 | lowlight | preglow: if you want to try: http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/Tremor-lowmemfft.zip (I think it still works) |
| 23:20:51 | Arathis | But when doing this the boot freezes with the same message like when a wrong mi4 was found or even none at all. |
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| 23:22:26 | preglow | i wonder if marsdaddy is every going to show up again |
| 23:22:37 | preglow | ever, even |
| 23:22:56 | Arathis | barrywardell: didn't try it myself so I'm not sure about the boot freeze. but when that's how it is I suppose the problem just is that the mi4 isn't where it should or has the wrong name. so a script renaming the rockbox mi4 to something else and the iriver mi4 back to the right name could do it. |
| 23:23:15 | barrywardell | dual boot doesn't work at all yet. I have made some progress with it |
| 23:23:25 | barrywardell | I think it's more complicated than that |
| 23:23:32 | Arathis | but I don't know if rockbox needs the mi4 after booting |
| 23:23:34 | markun | lowlight: I get a 'page not found' |
| 23:23:52 | Arathis | feared that :( |
| 23:24:15 | barrywardell | there are certain values (in cpu registers) set by the iriver bootloader and then read the the iriver mi4 |
| 23:24:47 | Arathis | so a reboot is needed. |
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| 23:24:53 | barrywardell | i have tried finding and setting these values just before loading the iriver firmware, but haven't got it working yet |
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| 23:25:28 | Arathis | ? |
| 23:25:55 | barrywardell | the short answer is I don't know. I haven't spent much time on it and won't for a while longer until the other problems are sorted |
| 23:26:22 | lowlight | markun: try now |
| 23:26:32 | Arathis | didn't want to push you |
| 23:26:45 | amiconn | dionoea: The disk spins up when returning from the animation to the plugin's menu... |
| 23:26:50 | markun | lowlight: now it works |
| 23:27:06 | amiconn | And btw, leaving the animation works on archos, but the animation is too fast (!) |
| 23:27:42 | Arathis | barrywardell: on the other hand when most issues are solved on rockbox we won't need the iriver firmware at all and dualboot wouldn't be a problem any more. |
| 23:27:57 | dionoea | amiconn: even with the button tmo ? |
| 23:28:03 | amiconn | cvs |
| 23:28:07 | barrywardell | Arathis: i will look at the dual boot issue at a later date, but I would rather have rockbox at a level that the iriver firmware isn't ever needed :D |
| 23:28:34 | barrywardell | should have read your message before saying the same thing! |
| 23:28:35 | Arathis | me too |
| 23:28:40 | Arathis | :D |
| 23:28:44 | Arathis | np |
| 23:29:02 | dionoea | amiconn: well i guess that the animation needs device specific tweaking. I can't really test that in the sims i guess |
| 23:29:31 | amiconn | I think with the tiny sleep and partial update only, we don't need specific tuning |
| 23:29:42 | dionoea | we already have those |
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| 23:29:49 | dionoea | unless my commit didn't make it |
| 23:30:01 | amiconn | Ooops, didn't notice... |
| 23:30:04 | * | amiconn will check |
| 23:30:07 | dionoea | :) |
| 23:31:02 | dionoea | the Rec 8MB compile error is weird ... is that build server dependant too ? |
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| 23:31:55 | amiconn | dionoea: It is.... someone needs to wake up in Sweden ;) |
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| 23:32:31 | amiconn | Bagder: lillebror.haxx.se is still running an old, unpatched sh-elf-gcc |
| 23:32:45 | Bagder | aha |
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| 23:35:14 | Bagder | that's zagor's box |
| 23:35:25 | Bagder | I mailed him about it |
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| 23:40:08 | dionoea | does the card bouncing anim work better on archos now ? |
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| 23:49:17 | amiconn | dionoea: Still rather fast... |
| 23:49:24 | amiconn | I'll test on H300 and X5 as well |
| 23:49:31 | dionoea | k |
| 23:49:38 | amiconn | There's another bug associated with the vanishing cursor |
| 23:49:42 | Arathis | barrywardell: are the keys for zooming images in the imageviewer already set? |
| 23:49:56 | amiconn | If the cursor has vanished, the button shortcut doesn't work either |
| 23:50:03 | dionoea | amiconn: i just commited something which might fix some of those bugs |
| 23:50:05 | dionoea | not sure |
| 23:50:15 | * | barrywardell has never used the imageviewer |
| 23:50:25 | dionoea | time to go sleep now :) I'll be back tomorrow afternoon i guess |
| 23:50:30 | barrywardell | I think I set them, but never tested them so they might be crappy |
| 23:50:49 | amiconn | dionoea: Do you have pending solitaire changes? |
| 23:50:52 | dionoea | no |
| 23:50:58 | amiconn | I'd like to commit some changes as well |
| 23:51:03 | dionoea | go ahead :) |
| 23:51:08 | amiconn | k, thanks |
| 23:51:17 | Arathis | at least i didn't find out which is for zooming. touchstrip dowsn't do anything though |
| 23:51:23 | dionoea | then i can say that the bugs are due to your commits :D |
| 23:51:33 | amiconn | hehe |
| 23:51:38 | amiconn | Mostly gfx work |
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| 23:53:05 | barrywardell | Arathis: if you have cvs downloaded, look in apps/plugins/jpeg.c |
| 23:53:35 | barrywardell | and feel free to post suggestions for changes in the keymap bug report |
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| 23:57:43 | Arathis | nope. I have a bleeding edge build. downloaded it about six hours ago |
| 23:58:26 | Arathis | but I have a CVS (rockbox-all) from yesterday or the day before. |
| 23:58:44 | barrywardell | that's fine. look in there |
| 23:58:51 | barrywardell | rockbox-all |
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