| 00:01:14 | Arathis | mirak_ ? |
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| 00:02:15 | Bagder | it has a 200MHz ARM9 |
| 00:02:28 | Bagder | dual-core even |
| 00:03:25 | Bagder | and it uses mplayer for video, wikipedia says |
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| 00:04:13 | Bagder | so no, that code would help us much |
| 00:04:24 | Bagder | won't |
| 00:04:28 | Bagder | aaag |
| 00:04:32 | Bagder | can't type |
| 00:04:35 | * | Bagder runs away |
| 00:04:37 | Angyrmanh10 | @ bagder: little question !!! |
| 00:04:48 | Bagder | shoot |
| 00:05:34 | Angyrmanh10 | WPs skins are now published on misticriver but i expect links are working only short period (like for my wps) could you mage a H10 section in the WPS Gallery |
| 00:05:43 | Angyrmanh10 | manage |
| 00:05:54 | Bagder | that's a wiki |
| 00:06:05 | Bagder | anyone can join in and do it |
| 00:06:09 | Angyrmanh10 | <−−- again a stipid question of me ??? |
| 00:06:20 | Angyrmanh10 | <−− again asked a stupid question |
| 00:06:39 | Angyrmanh10 | <−− again banging my head against... anything around ^^ |
| 00:07:57 | amiconn | hrrrmm... |
| 00:08:34 | amiconn | The greyscale palette in fire.c is rather strange, and the colour version is completely off |
| 00:08:49 | rboxer | ta for chat Paul - off for a hack.. |
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| 00:09:21 | amiconn | The color fire in cvs is in fact an avalanche mapped at inverse scale |
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| 00:09:37 | amiconn | That's why it starts out with white background (which should actually be black) |
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| 00:38:08 | maddog011 | one question, when you change the mi4 file on your player, will the data on player get erased as well? |
| 00:38:21 | Bagder | nope |
| 00:38:25 | maddog011 | thank you |
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| 00:40:48 | mirak_ | Arathis: using zoom is bad according to mplayer people |
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| 00:48:28 | Arathis | mirak_: but scale=x:y should be better I think |
| 00:49:02 | mirak_ | scale=-2:128 |
| 00:49:17 | Arathis | why -2 ? |
| 00:49:20 | mirak_ | or scale=160:-2 |
| 00:49:32 | mirak_ | because that's dumb command line |
| 00:49:40 | mirak_ | and written in the man |
| 00:49:42 | mirak_ | don't ask me |
| 00:49:43 | mirak_ | lol |
| 00:50:11 | mirak_ | in fact if you want it sized to multiples of 16 that shold be -10 |
| 00:50:21 | mirak_ | look at scale section in the man |
| 00:50:26 | Arathis | as far as I know -2 there only cuts of 2 lines that normaly are somehow crappy in selfcoded vidoes |
| 00:50:41 | mirak_ | that's not the number of line |
| 00:50:48 | mirak_ | that a kind of command |
| 00:50:53 | Arathis | scale with fix x and y works for me |
| 00:52:38 | Arathis | but you don't know what it actuly does? |
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| 01:00:38 | stripwax | hi all. anyone else seen that turning the hold switch ON for an ipod 5g also turns the backlight on (possibly permanently)? |
| 01:01:20 | maddog011 | wait, who said the up key doesn't work on the H10? |
| 01:01:41 | Bagder | maddog011: it didn't back when people said it didn't work |
| 01:01:47 | maddog011 | oh you fixed it? |
| 01:01:50 | maddog011 | Great job !!! |
| 01:01:58 | Bagder | Barry is the man |
| 01:02:02 | maddog011 | I know |
| 01:02:05 | maddog011 | Barrywardell |
| 01:02:07 | Arathis | and I said the video from TrueJournal on YouTube was made before it worked |
| 01:02:20 | maddog011 | That guy is a genius |
| 01:03:06 | stripwax | anyone or no-one (is it just my player that does this?) |
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| 01:07:37 | Arathis | stripwax: with rockbox? |
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| 01:09:15 | Arathis | stripwax: in rockbox you can set backlight when hold in the options. perhaps thats the problem |
| 01:09:20 | stripwax | Arathis - yes.. sorry, I guess I thought that went without saying. Recent daily and bleeding edge builds. My girlfriend is running an older build and doesn't seem to have the problem. For what it's worth, we're both running "official" (i.e. not "unofficial") builds, and I'm running the original "Black Glass" theme |
| 01:10:00 | stripwax | Arathis - oh, seriously? I must look like an idiot now. No wonder my battery life sucks with my ipod in my pocket.. |
| 01:10:19 | * | stripwax laughs |
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| 01:15:26 | mirak_ | the idct http://rafb.net/paste/results/luAkDE96.html |
| 01:15:35 | mirak_ | which doesn't work |
| 01:17:39 | stripwax | Arathis - you are a genius. I didn't even know there was such a setting, perhaps it picked up a random default when I upgraded? But happy as Larry now |
| 01:19:48 | Arathis | stripwax: glad I could help. |
| 01:19:58 | stripwax | :) |
| 01:20:59 | Arathis | btw: I'm running rockbox for only three days now. I just looked up many menus ^^ |
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| 01:21:27 | stripwax | Arathis - heh, I've been using it for almost 2 yrs ;-) |
| 01:21:35 | Arathis | :D |
| 01:24:38 | stripwax | cheers −− gnight |
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| 02:15:24 | EV|Toshiba | im back |
| 02:15:25 | EV|Toshiba | :) |
| 02:16:11 | EV|Toshiba | Btw, on this 30gb Ipod color/photo I have, on the orginal apple software, every couple weeks I get the sad ipod icon. And when I get to the apple store (about 30 mi away) the fucker decidedes to work. Any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 02:16:17 | EV|Toshiba | Because I cant get to rockbox when it does it |
| 02:17:15 | Davide-NYC | Question about future encoding formats. Will RB keep a 'less is more' attitude about what formats are supported for real-time encoding (on SW targets) or will there be more? Assumptions and predictions are also welcome. |
| 02:17:25 | EV|Toshiba | ...? |
| 02:18:48 | coob | EV|Toshiba: sounds like a problem with the ram, i suggest writing a memtest for rb/linux :) |
| 02:19:15 | EV|Toshiba | you wanna know something funny coob? I just dropped the ipod 4 feet onto tile, and now it works fine. |
| 02:19:17 | EV|Toshiba | I dont get it |
| 02:22:13 | Davide-NYC | Anybody use an IDE for hacking rockbox? If so which one? |
| 02:22:15 | coob | if there's a problem with the hd it's usually the folder/exclamation mark icon |
| 02:22:20 | coob | with the url for apple support |
| 02:22:24 | EV|Toshiba | it works everytime after I hit it on a desk or whatever... heh. |
| 02:22:36 | coob | sad ipod icon is much worse |
| 02:22:36 | EV|Toshiba | coob, its the ipod w/ a sad face and the aple url. |
| 02:22:39 | Davide-NYC | not for long it won't |
| 02:22:47 | EV|Toshiba | apple wont take it |
| 02:22:51 | coob | means the equivalent of the ipod's POST has failed |
| 02:22:55 | EV|Toshiba | shieat |
| 02:22:59 | EV|Toshiba | Any fix's? |
| 02:23:09 | Davide-NYC | buy an iriver? |
| 02:23:13 | EV|Toshiba | :) |
| 02:23:19 | coob | flog it on ebay? :) |
| 02:23:26 | Davide-NYC | ^^ good idea |
| 02:23:33 | EV|Toshiba | ;) |
| 02:23:49 | EV|Toshiba | I gotta remeber to go to compusa tomrrow, and get that 250gb internal hdd for $49.. |
| 02:24:21 | Davide-NYC | midkay: Mmmm poo-pooed my cherry patch: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5882.msg49352#msg49352 |
| 02:24:34 | Davide-NYC | EV|Toshiba: Linky please> |
| 02:24:41 | EV|Toshiba | It's in their ad. |
| 02:24:45 | EV|Toshiba | I'll see if they got it on their site., |
| 02:25:50 | EV|Toshiba | Davide-NYC, http://www.compusa.com/adproducts/product_info.asp?pfp=ADPRODUCTS&N=500458+200112&Ne=200000&Ns=display%5Fprice%7C0&product_code=338173&Pn=Caviar_SE16_250GB_Hard_Drive |
| 02:25:56 | midkay | Davide-NYC: poor guy :) |
| 02:26:30 | Davide-NYC | you mean me right? |
| 02:28:03 | Davide-NYC | EV|Toshiba: TY, really good timing. |
| 02:28:09 | EV|Toshiba | Why? |
| 02:28:13 | EV|Toshiba | Huh? im confused |
| 02:28:27 | Davide-NYC | i need a drive this weekend. This is agood deal. |
| 02:28:32 | Davide-NYC | thanks |
| 02:28:51 | EV|Toshiba | lol |
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| 02:29:00 | EV|Toshiba | I'll have my dad probley go pick one up for me tomrrow |
| 02:29:09 | EV|Toshiba | I'm going to be at school for 16 huors tomrrow,. |
| 02:30:26 | EV|Toshiba | 7am till abuot midnight. |
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| 04:57:27 | * | jhMikeS is this thing on? |
| 04:57:54 | jhMikeS | *thump* *thump *thump* |
| 04:59:55 | EV|Server | yo |
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| 05:17:37 | piroko | Is it a known issue with the 4G ipod where it reboots itself seemingly randomly, even when not playing music? |
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| 05:19:15 | BHSPitLappy | it's a known issue that batteries die |
| 05:19:35 | piroko | Haha. It's plugged in ;) |
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| 05:38:04 | webguest93 | I'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do? |
| 05:39:45 | webguest93 | I'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do? |
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| 05:40:26 | JenniferAlicarty | I'd like to contribute to the wiki regarding my experiences with a iPod 3G. Is there something special I need to do? |
| 05:43:29 | piroko | Come back at a time earlier in the day when all the helping people aren't dead. :) I mean that in all kindness. I am sorry but I am only a lowly user and I don't know the answer to your question :( |
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| 05:48:04 | piroko | Odd, now that I am playing music on my iPod (a SID file), it hasn't crashed once... |
| 05:48:20 | piroko | I had it plugged into my laptop through firewire before. Maybe that caused it... |
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| 06:48:51 | EbErT | would it be possible or practical to have a plugin that recognizes itunes playlists? |
| 06:49:41 | EbErT | because i like using itunes to set up playlists, but that's about it |
| 06:57:29 | BHSPitLappy | you'd have to have a plugin that parsed the itunesDB completely |
| 06:57:43 | BHSPitLappy | and no rockbox dev on earth would be willing to do that, I think |
| 06:59:28 | EbErT | well, if that's the case |
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| 07:01:38 | BHSPitLappy | :P |
| 07:01:50 | BHSPitLappy | it defies anyone's idea of what rockbox is there for |
| 07:02:03 | EbErT | no, that would be a dumb idea if that much is involved |
| 07:02:25 | BHSPitLappy | of course, something for this might already exist, and I could be sounding like an idiot denouncing the idea |
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| 07:12:19 | _jhMikeS_ | They're registered and linked and all |
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| 07:14:12 | jhMikeS | got it...thaks |
| 07:15:08 | jhMikeS | I need to automate that in my client |
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| 08:00:40 | theli_ua | morning |
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| 08:03:26 | Zagor | hi |
| 08:03:52 | scorche | you are up early/late |
| 08:04:14 | Zagor | not really. it's 08:00 here. |
| 08:04:26 | scorche | oh? |
| 08:04:56 | scorche | my basis for swedish time is based on when people talk in here, so that is understandable =) |
| 08:05:02 | Zagor | hehe |
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| 08:20:48 | theli_ua | its 09 am here :) |
| 08:27:51 | theli_ua | hm .. anyone with Ipod Video here who can test somethign for me? |
| 08:27:59 | theli_ua | actually test this http://theli.ho.com.ua/screen.png |
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| 08:48:34 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:49:01 | * | perplexity groans |
| 08:49:17 | amiconn | Bagder: Something is very wrong with the new build server, looks like missing crosscompilers (!?!) |
| 08:49:42 | perplexity | yeah.. mea culpa.. |
| 08:50:11 | perplexity | looks like the build script does not use the shells path, and I did not feed explicit paths into the script.. |
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| 08:55:43 | perplexity | On the upside, in the process of reconfiguring it I've sped it up 30% |
| 08:56:30 | amiconn | perplexity: Problem fixed? |
| 08:57:26 | perplexity | well, not really.. it all gets very ugly and resulted in something (probably me) blowing away the who config. So I need Bagder to change the incoming port number and re-upload acbuild.pl again.. |
| 08:57:44 | perplexity | I need a decent smack in the head actually.. |
| 08:58:03 | Davide-NYC | Mmmm: sorry about that wretched hack job. :-P |
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| 08:58:07 | perplexity | In the mean time, I've disabled it so it won't try to build anything.. |
| 08:58:11 | scorche | perplexity: i believe Zagor is around |
| 08:58:39 | Mmmm | Davide-NYC: No problem mate...you've got to start somewhere eh? |
| 08:59:00 | Mmmm | You are me a year ago :D |
| 08:59:03 | Davide-NYC | how 'bout I read a book first huh? |
| 08:59:12 | Davide-NYC | :-P |
| 08:59:22 | Mmmm | good idea |
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| 09:00:31 | Mmmm | do you want to try and fix it up or shall I just put your icons in and commit? |
| 09:01:05 | Mmmm | go on...give it a go.. |
| 09:03:26 | Mmmm | the only things you need to change are the gui_statusbar_icon_recording_info() function in statusbar.c and the icons. So start with clean CVS and only change those bits |
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| 09:06:26 | Mmmm | by the way, Davide, have you tried my countdown timer yet? |
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| 09:07:30 | theli_ua | ender`, that was arctic adventure |
| 09:07:50 | theli_ua | ender`, actually its ColecoVision emulator |
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| 09:23:18 | JdGordon | does anyone have any idea how long it would take to convert 6000 lines of c into psuedo code? |
| 09:25:25 | scorche | well, assuming an average of 15 seconds a line for someone with a good understanding of it...about 25 hours non-stop |
| 09:27:04 | scorche | ok...maybe 30 seconds...50 hours ;) |
| 09:31:37 | JdGordon | hmm... sounds good... even if it is boring work :D |
| 09:32:09 | scorche | would be best to split up between people |
| 09:32:24 | scorche | but the biggest issue is that the code constantly changes... |
| 09:34:18 | Davide-NYC | Mmmm: Sorry I had to tend to something important. |
| 09:34:49 | Mmmm | ok |
| 09:34:53 | Davide-NYC | I don;t think I'm anywhere near ready to make intelligent changes just yet, so if you want to put it the changes please do. |
| 09:34:57 | JdGordon | scorche: i ask because i was just offered to do that at an hourly rate (unknown), so soudns like i might have some spare poket money :D |
| 09:35:28 | Davide-NYC | I have not tried your countdown timer yet. I don;t really need it, but if you want me to do some testing I will no problem. |
| 09:35:32 | Mmmm | Davide-NYC: it doesnt need to be intelligent, just guess and i'll fix up any small madnesses you have |
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| 09:35:58 | Davide-NYC | Hey, if that's the case then sure! I'll stab at tomorrow and post in the forum |
| 09:36:05 | Davide-NYC | 3:40am here, I gotta sleep |
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| 09:36:13 | Mmmm | g'night... |
| 09:36:19 | Davide-NYC | later, and thanks |
| 09:36:20 | Mmmm | or morning... |
| 09:36:26 | Davide-NYC | :-P |
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| 09:44:43 | Mmmm | WOw...that's some score on the latest CVS build errors table....228! cor.... |
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| 09:53:14 | Mmmm | Is there any way to differentiate between the plain recorder and the v2 and FM recorders in the code using #ifs? (I have a patch that breaks the v2 but not the normal recorder (region FLASH is full errors)) |
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| 09:54:38 | * | jhMikeS want to know if it's ok to complain |
| 09:55:25 | jhMikeS | :) |
| 09:56:41 | | Quit mirak_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 09:56:53 | LinusN | no, complaining is not accepted here ;-) |
| 09:56:59 | jhMikeS | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
| 09:57:21 | LinusN | then we'll send you to the eternal "you have posted to the wrong forum" loop |
| 09:57:57 | jhMikeS | It's about my rb stuff...always wanting to do just "that" and then ending up doing "that and that and that and that". |
| 09:58:52 | jhMikeS | Guess it's a personal problem :) |
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| 09:59:03 | LinusN | that's not complaining, that's whining ;-) |
| 09:59:35 | LinusN | who's responsible for the fnarfbargle.com build server? |
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| 10:00:17 | * | jhMikeS is a whiner when he's revamping the recording system so much! |
| 10:00:32 | LinusN | :-) |
| 10:01:39 | * | jhMikeS thinks maybe LinusN wanted to keep him away from other stuff or keep him from annoying everyone so much! :) |
| 10:02:07 | LinusN | what took you so long to figure that out? :-) |
| 10:02:15 | perplexity | LinusN: fnarfbargle is mine unfortunately.. |
| 10:02:56 | jhMikeS | it only took long to talk about it! hehe...was on to you from the start! |
| 10:03:06 | LinusN | perplexity: you must have the path to the compilers set up correctly |
| 10:03:41 | perplexity | So it would seem.. I need Bagder to re-upload the acbuild.pl script to the machine and reconfigure the incoming port number, so I've disabled the server until we get it sorted |
| 10:04:29 | jhMikeS | Is dircache gonna keep disk hits away if just scanning directories for creating unique file name? |
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| 10:09:16 | LinusN | jhMikeS: i didn't understand the question |
| 10:09:18 | jhMikeS | hrrrmph...maybe one of those stupid Q's? I'm changing things so the disk doesn't have to spin up even when new files are started but the dirs still have to be scanned for creating the filenames...not with datetime |
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| 10:17:13 | mirak | aïe |
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| 10:21:06 | jhMikeS | ....................................... |
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| 10:23:03 | Mordov|hardlywo | HELP :) I'm having problems finding the right MK-6006 GAH I get one woith ata 5 and 8mb chache and one with ata 6 and 2mb chache i have a iriver... |
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| 10:23:47 | | Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
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| 10:26:58 | Mordov|hardlywo | http://www2.computeruniverse.net/products/e90158724.asp |
| 10:27:02 | Mordov|hardlywo | http://www.esao.de/product_info.php?products_id=114074&lid=gzh |
| 10:27:07 | Mordov|hardlywo | same name different spec |
| 10:27:09 | Mordov|hardlywo | ARGH |
| 10:27:18 | theli_ua | linuxstb, have a minute? |
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| 10:30:53 | jhMikeS | hmm...the conversations are slow today |
| 10:32:47 | Mordov|hardlywo | can someone tell me if the 8mb mk6006gah will work on my iriver? |
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| 10:37:15 | Babbelaar | Hey I was wondering if i could get some help? |
| 10:37:18 | jhMikeS | <Mordov|hardlywo> I can't...if that helps. |
| 10:37:33 | Mordov|hardlywo | hehe :) |
| 10:38:40 | Mordov|hardlywo | seems like the mk6006gah comes in different versions.... does anyone know if all iriver players uses 2mb buffer? |
| 10:38:59 | bluebrother | Babbelaar: if you don't ask nobody can help you ... so just ask |
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| 10:39:17 | Babbelaar | o d/l the daily build and that other thing but i don't have a .rockbox directory file? |
| 10:39:38 | bluebrother | you need to unzip the daily build to your player. |
| 10:39:48 | bluebrother | what OS you're using? |
| 10:40:05 | Babbelaar | OSX |
| 10:40:11 | Babbelaar | OS meaning? |
| 10:40:16 | bluebrother | I guess it hides the folder. |
| 10:40:17 | * | jhMikeS wonders what happened to LinusN...maybe said "to hell with him!" ;-) |
| 10:40:22 | bluebrother | Operating System. |
| 10:40:26 | Babbelaar | for Mac? |
| 10:40:48 | bluebrother | OSX is BSD based, so I guess it does like linux −− hiding all files starting with a dot. |
| 10:41:02 | Babbelaar | Cause i boot up rockbox and it says "no .rockbox directory" |
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| 10:41:14 | bluebrother | ah, ok. That's a bit different. |
| 10:41:22 | Babbelaar | what do i then lol? |
| 10:41:27 | bluebrother | can you locate the folder in the zip? |
| 10:41:37 | Babbelaar | which folder? |
| 10:41:39 | bluebrother | on linux you can use "ls -a" on the command line |
| 10:41:42 | bluebrother | the .rockbox folder. |
| 10:42:01 | Babbelaar | last time all i got was that rockbox.iriver file |
| 10:42:04 | Babbelaar | when it was unzipped |
| 10:42:06 | linuxstb | Babbelaar: If you're happy with the command-line, just download the .zip and then type "unzip rockbox.zip -d /Volumes/IPOD/" - replacing "IPOD" with the name of your ipod. Look in the /Volumes directory to see what it's called. |
| 10:42:22 | linuxstb | Ah sorry, I assumed you had an ipod.... |
| 10:42:30 | Babbelaar | nup im using an Iriver |
| 10:42:36 | linuxstb | But it's the same command - replace "IPOD" with the name of your iriver. |
| 10:43:25 | Babbelaar | i don't get it sorry |
| 10:43:27 | linuxstb | I'm sure there must be a GUI way to do it (e.g. telling Finder to show hidden files), but all I know is the command-line. |
| 10:43:36 | * | jhMikeS needs to make that create .rockbox on your device make option yet... |
| 10:43:46 | theli_ua | linuxstb, can you please test something on Video for me? |
| 10:44:02 | linuxstb | Sure. |
| 10:44:05 | LinusN | jhMikeS: i'm a little busy right now, so i can't pay full attention to irc |
| 10:44:16 | jhMikeS | yes you can find hidden files in finder |
| 10:44:46 | jhMikeS | LinusN: Just messin' with ya... B-) |
| 10:45:46 | * | jhMikeS doesn't want to be in trouble...(:( |
| 10:46:22 | * | LinusN 's wife is having her gall bladder removed as we speak |
| 10:46:50 | jhMikeS | LinusN: Omg...ok...didn't know that. I'm sorry she's not well. |
| 10:46:58 | LinusN | how could you know |
| 10:47:13 | LinusN | i'm still at work, there's nothing i can do to help anyway |
| 10:47:37 | jhMikeS | LinusN: I know what that kind of situation is like very well. |
| 10:55:22 | Babbelaar | ha i d/l rockbox |
| 10:55:26 | Babbelaar | now what? =\ |
| 10:56:14 | jhMikeS | softly stoke the bits |
| 10:56:20 | jhMikeS | stroke |
| 10:56:46 | Babbelaar | lol |
| 10:57:19 | Babbelaar | how do i d/l them themes |
| 10:57:21 | jhMikeS | unzip to your player's hd so .rockbox is in the root...it's a hd player right? |
| 10:57:31 | Babbelaar | It is in the root |
| 10:57:50 | Babbelaar | I took the zipped file to my windows computer and everything worked swet |
| 10:57:55 | Babbelaar | yeh its an HD player |
| 10:59:25 | jhMikeS | From the theme page? There's plenty of resources for that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 10:59:42 | mirak | http://rafb.net/paste/results/luAkDE96.html this is idct.c for coldfire. Can anyone test that ? |
| 10:59:50 | bluebrother | Babbelaar: you can also try http://www.rockbox-themes.org |
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| 11:00:55 | mirak | the first dot of the 8x8 blocks seems to have a problem exept on the I frame decoding. any ideas what's wrong apreciated. Other than this the I frames seems to decode well. a pause can let you see that |
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| 11:01:18 | dave | hi, can anyone spare 2/3 mins to help a h10 rockbox newbie? |
| 11:01:49 | jhMikeS | mirak: not in my head...but I can try it out on x5 |
| 11:02:01 | Babbelaar | ty :) so much |
| 11:02:13 | mirak | I really did what I could. I ported the C algorithm to octave/matlab, and manage to have the same output result with my code. |
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| 11:02:28 | jhMikeS | mirak: Why the dots? |
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| 11:02:53 | mirak | jhMikes yes it should work as it, just CPU_COLDFIRE macro is needed. |
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| 11:04:53 | dave | ok, i have a 20gb iriver, i have downloaded the latest build, copied over the .rockbox folder, the rockbox.h10 file to my player.. rebooted and nothing.. goes straight into the existing f/w can anyone help me? |
| 11:04:59 | jhMikeS | mirak: for this test or for later? |
| 11:05:13 | mirak | jhMikes that's the question. I don't know why this happens. by the way if I use idct_row in asm and idct_col in C and vice versa it works as expected. however when I enable the two asm functions it creates this error on the upper left pixel for the P frame. And this error propagate along the other P frames. |
| 11:05:51 | jhMikeS | building... |
| 11:05:59 | mirak | jhMikeS that macro is enabled if you have a coldfire CPU. so I think you don't have to modify anything |
| 11:06:04 | markun | Mordov|hardlywo: it should only have 2MB http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/spec/hdd/mk6006.htm |
| 11:06:36 | jhMikeS | yes...x5 is coldfire |
| 11:06:39 | dan_a | dave: Have you installed the bootloader? I don't have an H10 myself, but that sounds like it could be the problem |
| 11:07:17 | dave | dan_a thanks for that, i have just noticed the bootloader instruction.. i am sych a newbie.. please excuse me! i will try that and hopefully it will work |
| 11:07:19 | dave | thanks :) |
| 11:07:51 | dan_a | dave: No problem - we're all newbies sometime at something! |
| 11:07:56 | Babbelaar | Is there anywhere it tells you how to put a theme into your iriver? |
| 11:08:29 | jhMikeS | mirak: I thought you meant it needed the macro put in it...;P |
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| 11:10:09 | * | jhMikeS 's debian is starting to show filedates in the future |
| 11:10:11 | dave | excellent, its working... this is going to take some getting used to! how far from the completetion is the h10 port? i am using daily build so assume its still in development? |
| 11:11:03 | LinusN | gtg |
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| 11:11:31 | C_D | does anyone have a iriver h3xx and notice the metronome plugin makes a distorted noise every now and the |
| 11:11:32 | C_D | n |
| 11:11:58 | jhMikeS | testing... |
| 11:12:23 | mirak | so ? |
| 11:13:21 | jhMikeS | I see the dot appear, grow, then a normal image at the what I believe is the intra frame |
| 11:14:11 | jhMikeS | It's all near where there's motion |
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| 11:14:26 | Mmmm | C_D: I have an H1xx and it is merrily ticking away at the moment with no distortion |
| 11:14:44 | C_D | my makes some distorted ticks every now and then :/ |
| 11:15:03 | Mmmm | ooh...no, it just made a weird beeping noise |
| 11:15:31 | jhMikeS | Must not be decoding correctly in the area uncovered by the moved blocks...my guess |
| 11:16:15 | jhMikeS | the more a block moves the bigger the discolored area |
| 11:17:28 | dan_a | dave: The H10 port has only had sound for about a week. barrywardell and lorijho are making big steps forward pretty much every day. |
| 11:18:09 | Mmmm | C_D: yep, definitely something up there....if you put it all the way up to 400 bpm it beeps fairly often and it even loses the beat every now and then... |
| 11:19:06 | C_D | yeah |
| 11:19:48 | Mmmm | C_D: my god, that was a relief when I switched it off...feel like my head is throbbing.... |
| 11:20:28 | * | theli_ua wonders do we have officiall rockbox speaker or something ...... |
| 11:21:43 | C_D | haha |
| 11:22:13 | dave | well kudos to barry & lorijho their work is greatly appreciated :) i have a problem tho i think, it now starts and I am able to browse the menus, but i cant seem to see any music? on the first menu i have playlists, and text but the rockbox option seems to have an X next to it? maybe i am missing something! |
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| 11:25:52 | mirak | jhMikes yes |
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| 11:26:06 | markun | dave: if you turn on your h10 rockbox should be in the file browser |
| 11:26:43 | jhMikeS | I hoped my observations helped...I can't really understand the code so quickly so I can't say if I see any errors... |
| 11:27:18 | mirak | but you see like me the I frame decoded well |
| 11:27:29 | jhMikeS | indeed |
| 11:28:12 | markun | mirak: probably an accuracy problem then, don't you think? |
| 11:28:22 | mirak | I also agree theer is a problem when the blocks are moving |
| 11:29:02 | jhMikeS | It's in the direction of the motion...like it's not being filled at the oposite side |
| 11:29:32 | mirak | markun the strange thing is that only the upper right pixel have an issue |
| 11:29:52 | mirak | then the issue spreads |
| 11:30:17 | mirak | about an accuracy problem there is different case |
| 11:30:39 | jhMikeS | I'm not sure about that |
| 11:31:09 | mirak | in the code, they add 2048 and 65356. I came to the conclusion that this was equivalent to add 0,5 to the final matrix. They do that early to have less additions to do |
| 11:31:10 | dave | hmm... strange.. i try to click on Xrockbox and it just says "loading" |
| 11:31:42 | dave | and nothing happens? but i can click on playlists and text and it goes into that folder? I must be doing something wrong?! |
| 11:31:45 | mirak | but in the C code even when I remove this two values, there is not as much degradation. |
| 11:32:02 | jhMikeS | there's more spread of the error when moving left or up |
| 11:32:10 | mirak | what happens is that the image fades to green taints |
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| 11:32:54 | jhMikeS | It looks like Chistmas lights :) multicolor |
| 11:33:04 | mirak | I also tryed to correct this issue in the asm code by adding the right value. but there is still that upper left dot issue |
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| 11:36:00 | amiconn | mirak: Sorry that I didn't look at the idct stuff yet. I want to see mpegplayer speedups too, but then I also want to do so many other things... |
| 11:37:31 | mirak | about a precision issue, I processed the C algorithm into matlab, and also tryed with the matrix multiplication and also with cosin like the theoric formula. I manage to make them have almost the same output. The difference is really minimal and I don't think this could lead to this degradations. |
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| 11:39:20 | mirak | amiconn well I am a bit frustrated to be so close and not see what's wrong. once this idct is done I will do other parts in asm. maybe I should start to work on other parts, waiting for a solution for idct |
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| 11:44:50 | linuxstb | mirak: Are you seeing much of a speed-up with your ASM code yet? (ignoring the bugs) |
| 11:53:52 | amiconn | mirak: What was the speedup when putting the idct block in iram? I'd like to know the speedup (vs. cvs) with idct block in iram, with asm idct, and with asm idct + iram |
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| 12:02:49 | mirak | linuxstb yes it's faster. But the most improvement is speed is by putting the DCTblock into iram. I get 4-5 fps in plus |
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| 12:05:04 | mirak | idct in asm gives something like 0,7 fps in plus. I think with full idct in asm it can go faster, because it reduce the need to do 15 moves * 3 to store the coefs, and also 5 moves to init the MACSR |
| 12:05:21 | mirak | plus the function calls and the for loops |
| 12:06:22 | mirak | the optimal speedup would be to put all the mpeg2 struct into iram. but one array is a bit to big |
| 12:06:39 | preglow | don't expect too much from an asm idct |
| 12:06:43 | mirak | 16k to compute the dequantisation |
| 12:06:51 | preglow | the motion estimation step will be more imortant on coldfire |
| 12:06:53 | preglow | thanks to the slow ram |
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| 12:08:23 | mirak | it would be nice to have some kind of dynamic iram. where we could reuse it instead of fixing it. maybe giving some temp data array the adress it could do the trick if they are not called at the same time |
| 12:10:00 | mirak | the same adress |
| 12:10:03 | mirak | I meant |
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| 12:13:09 | preglow | well |
| 12:13:31 | preglow | if we're gonna use audio codecs together with video, we have no spare iram |
| 12:13:54 | preglow | but i guess there could be a way |
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| 12:14:29 | preglow | we'd need a new set of I*_ATTR defines that put all iram that is unused after a frame next to each other |
| 12:14:46 | preglow | some iram data is just used during processing |
| 12:14:48 | preglow | not after |
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| 12:18:06 | linuxstb | How about some kind of "alloca" function - so a function can temporarily claim some IRAM which must be freed before the function exits? |
| 12:19:30 | mirak | does the rockbox kernel really needs that much iram ? |
| 12:19:58 | Bagder | the kernel speed is slightly more important than the video player... |
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| 12:20:19 | mirak | bagder video or audio |
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| 12:20:39 | Bagder | I don't think we lack iram for audio very much, do we? |
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| 12:21:35 | mirak | what I mean is that the loss of speed for the kernel would probably not be as noticeable as the gain of speed for audio or video codecs |
| 12:21:41 | mirak | or even plugins |
| 12:21:50 | mirak | that's a question |
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| 12:22:24 | mirak | when you see that putting the dtblock in iram can make you gain 5 fps that makes wonder |
| 12:22:37 | Bagder | I'm saying that the functions that run 99% of the time are the important ones |
| 12:22:54 | Bagder | i.e kernel, lcd and the central drivers |
| 12:23:09 | Bagder | including audio codecs |
| 12:23:18 | mirak | I am asking, I don't know kernel |
| 12:23:41 | Bagder | well, you can easily measure by moving out things from iram and compare |
| 12:23:56 | Bagder | that's actually the only sensible way to tell anyway |
| 12:24:14 | preglow | linuxstb: sure, yeah, and there _is_ some potential for iram reuse |
| 12:24:28 | preglow | linuxstb: like for example the pcm output buffer |
| 12:25:07 | amiconn | linuxstb: Afaik we can use alloca() in rockbox, as it just allocates on stack. And the stack is in IRAM for the main thread... |
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| 12:25:52 | preglow | not everything runs in the main thread |
| 12:26:12 | linuxstb | So one option might be to increase the stack size for codecs and plugins, and take that away from the standard IRAM assignment? |
| 12:26:21 | linuxstb | And then make the codecs use the stack more... |
| 12:26:51 | linuxstb | But that could get nasty if not done carefully... |
| 12:26:53 | preglow | eh |
| 12:26:57 | preglow | no, don't do that |
| 12:27:01 | amiconn | The codecs run in the codec thread, and the codec stack is also in iram |
| 12:27:02 | preglow | that for one wouldn't let us reuse iram |
| 12:27:16 | preglow | not easily, at least |
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| 12:41:32 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i got response from ColEm author |
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| 12:46:36 | Bagder | perplexity: I've copied a new acbuild.pl script to your server |
| 12:46:48 | perplexity | ta.. I'll make sure the path is correct this time.. |
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| 12:48:46 | Bagder | ok |
| 12:55:15 | theli_ | linuxstb, unfortunately we won't have colecovision emulator :( |
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| 13:13:31 | webguest57 | What happend to RockBox? Hardly a "core" commit in the last few days. |
| 13:14:57 | dan_a | At a guess, real life has intervened. |
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| 13:41:42 | aliask | Does rockbox edit the playcount ID3v2 tag when music is played? |
| 13:42:16 | Bagder | nope |
| 13:42:23 | aliask | Hmm |
| 13:42:40 | aliask | ID3v2 is so much more complicated than v1. |
| 13:43:06 | Bagder | yes |
| 13:43:33 | Bagder | but on the other hand, v1 was too simple |
| 13:43:38 | * | aliask is glad he got ID3v1 writing done before tackling v2. |
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| 14:04:47 | moda | hey guys, can anyone tell me, is rockbox on the ipod the same as rockbox on the h3xx? |
| 14:04:54 | Bagder | yes it is |
| 14:05:03 | moda | like, does it behave the same etc? |
| 14:05:12 | Bagder | yes, as far as possible |
| 14:05:33 | moda | mk, so i should have no problem going from a rbed h340 to an rbed ipod? |
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| 14:06:54 | aliask | Once you get used to the different buttons, it's pretty painless. |
| 14:06:54 | moda | speaking of which, is there an ipod equivalent to misticriver? |
| 14:06:58 | linuxstb | moda: Maybe an important difference for you is that battery life on the ipods in Rockbox is less than the official firmware. On the H340, I think most people get longer life in Rockbox now compared to the original firmware. |
| 14:06:58 | moda | yea |
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| 14:07:08 | aliask | moda: The whole internet? |
| 14:07:10 | linuxstb | moda: I guess ilounge.com is the equivalent... |
| 14:07:43 | moda | linuxstb: i get ~5hours anyway on either rb or iriver firmware, so it doesnt really matter :p *kicks battery* |
| 14:07:55 | moda | ilounge doesnt seem to be very busy tho |
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| 14:08:54 | linuxstb | moda: Huh? Have you visited their forums? Almost a million posts... |
| 14:09:11 | linuxstb | Over 100,000 members... |
| 14:09:47 | linuxstb | But generally people there seem to love itunes and their ipods, and hate Rockbox... |
| 14:09:53 | moda | yea, maybe its just the times im visiting, but whenever i go there, there is only like 10 people or less veiwing each forum |
| 14:10:00 | moda | why do people hate rockbox? |
| 14:10:05 | Bagder | ? |
| 14:10:26 | Bagder | which people? |
| 14:10:42 | moda | <linuxstb> But generally people there seem to love itunes and their ipods, and hate Rockbox... |
| 14:10:45 | linuxstb | The usual cosmetic complaints mostly and also simply the fact that they like their ipods the way they are. |
| 14:10:56 | moda | ah |
| 14:11:14 | Bagder | Apple zealots prefer Apple |
| 14:11:47 | linuxstb | But I can understand Rockbox not being very useful to people who choose to use Itunes - especially if they buy music and videos from there. |
| 14:12:14 | moda | hmph. people buy music now? |
| 14:12:21 | moda | ;) |
| 14:13:03 | linuxstb | Maybe saying that they hate Rockbox is a bit strong - there just seems to be no interest in it. |
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| 14:13:27 | Bagder | yeah, and lots of people saying they don't use it since it looks ugly ;-) |
| 14:13:30 | moda | the only complaint I have with rockbox is the menus arent exactly intuitive, and could do with some "prettying up" |
| 14:13:49 | moda | RB looks good on wps, just not everywhere else :p |
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| 14:15:14 | linuxstb | I agree Rockbox could benefit from a little prettying up - just simple things like a better-looking status bar, a larger default font, a minimal use of colour and a nice default WPS would drastically change the first impression people get when trying Rockbox. |
| 14:15:26 | Bagder | yeps |
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| 14:16:03 | moda | for each build for each platform there needs to be a differant default theme and wps |
| 14:16:39 | Mordov|hardlywo | whish: to get the sleep timer option a bit closer to the start of the menue :) I use it several times a day and I have to go all the way to system to find it :) |
| 14:17:36 | Bagder | everyone wants their favourite options moved |
| 14:17:50 | linuxstb | Is there anything else similar to the sleep timer, which is more an "action" rather than "setting"? |
| 14:17:55 | aliask | I have to agree though, sleep timer is especially poorly placed. |
| 14:18:05 | linuxstb | But sleep-timer isn't really an option. |
| 14:18:07 | aliask | RTC alarm? |
| 14:18:10 | * | Bagder never used the sleep timer |
| 14:18:11 | Mordov|hardlywo | but all the way into system option I feel is verry unintuitive :) |
| 14:18:44 | aliask | Mordov|hardlywo: If you feel like compiling at all, I wrote a patch which chanes the menu structure - sleep timer is nearer to the top. |
| 14:19:10 | Mordov|hardlywo | :) I have forgotten how to do it :) |
| 14:19:13 | * | linuxstb never used the sleep timer either |
| 14:19:32 | Mordov|hardlywo | radio and sleep timer I feel is actions that have no natural place in the menu |
| 14:19:34 | linuxstb | Is the sleep timer something you set once, and then it's forgotten next time you start Rockbox? |
| 14:19:47 | Mordov|hardlywo | no you have to sett it everytime you use it |
| 14:19:57 | linuxstb | Yes, that's what I mean. |
| 14:20:10 | linuxstb | So I agree it shouldn't be inside a settings menu. |
| 14:20:57 | * | preglow uses the sleep timer from time to time |
| 14:21:21 | Mordov|hardlywo | a patch witch made it posible to change buttons and menue would be nice :) |
| 14:21:29 | theli_ua | i didn't know we have such timer :/ |
| 14:22:20 | moda | oh choosing a new mp3 player is pissing me off :| |
| 14:22:48 | preglow | get a h1x0 and be done with it |
| 14:22:56 | preglow | best thing to hit the earth since the plow |
| 14:22:58 | moda | I have a h340 and it sucks |
| 14:23:06 | preglow | that's why i said h1x0 and not h3x0 |
| 14:23:16 | linuxstb | What sucks about the h340? |
| 14:23:26 | moda | id rather have colour and have a brick then be stuck in grayscale land :p |
| 14:23:50 | moda | because its freaking huge, the battery sucks (its on its 3rd battery) and i think my hdd is going to die anytime soon (3rd hdd too) |
| 14:24:15 | Mordov|hardlywo | the battry on my h-120 is still doing fine :) 2,5 yeares now |
| 14:24:18 | moda | and the headphone jack is fully fucked, (thorpy says) |
| 14:24:25 | aliask | My H340 wore a hole in my pants pocket recently - I attribute this to its epic fatness. |
| 14:24:27 | preglow | battery sucks? |
| 14:24:28 | preglow | it's great |
| 14:24:34 | preglow | i get over twenty hours on a chrage |
| 14:24:38 | aliask | Same |
| 14:24:38 | moda | i get 5 hours if im lucky |
| 14:24:47 | linuxstb | I think you must just be unlucky - I can't recall anyone else complaining about battery or disk problems with the irivers... |
| 14:25:05 | linuxstb | Or maybe I just don't read misticriver enough... |
| 14:25:18 | aliask | Battery problems - yes. I've had to replace mine, and I've heard a few people experience similar problems |
| 14:25:20 | Mordov|hardlywo | I have a disk problem :) (started when I lost my player from a bigh hight ;) |
| 14:25:36 | moda | o rly? this is my 3rd replacement, once due to battery and headphone jack, once due to battery alone and once due to a fully fucked hdd, and yes you dont read misticriver enough :p |
| 14:25:45 | moda | im just getting sick of my h340 |
| 14:26:01 | linuxstb | The iaudio X5 seems well-liked... |
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| 14:26:13 | moda | 10fps video and unintuitive input control and brickness ftw :| |
| 14:26:38 | moda | long fingernails + h340 controls = fail |
| 14:27:25 | amiconn | The h300 buttons are mushy, but I still prefer them over the ipod's annoying wheel thing |
| 14:27:39 | Mordov|hardlywo | looks like you need a iPod, those things nevver fail and are so userfriendly ;) |
| 14:28:09 | * | theli_ua wonders if anyone here knows some platform to emulate on rockbox which have about 4 colors small screen resolution... doesn't use much cpu power, have about 4 buttons and have GPL compatible emulator written in plain C and with portability in mind |
| 14:28:17 | moda | so what other mp3 players are there than the ipod, iriver cbfed releasing anything new, and creative (never ever - friend has had 7 creatives, all dead :|) |
| 14:28:47 | Mordov|hardlywo | sandisk |
| 14:28:48 | linuxstb | moda: As I just mentioned, the iaudio X5 |
| 14:29:17 | moda | 15fps is totally better, and the sheer rareness of them in australia :| |
| 14:29:48 | aliask | You'd get much better framerates in rockbox for video I think. |
| 14:29:50 | Bagder | the higher fps rate is basically due to the smaller screen |
| 14:29:55 | amiconn | moda: If you want video so much, get a pmp instead |
| 14:29:59 | * | aliask mumbles something about no sound. |
| 14:30:05 | linuxstb | Or the ipod and the Apple firmware and itunes... |
| 14:30:12 | amiconn | Video on a dap is not much more than a gimmick imho |
| 14:30:19 | moda | amiconn: nah, i want something mp3 player sized with video :p |
| 14:30:42 | Bagder | that's probably ipod video then |
| 14:30:48 | moda | :( |
| 14:31:02 | linuxstb | Or a gigabeat with Rockbox... |
| 14:31:05 | moda | toshiba gigabeat s or zen vision m (its a creative gah) |
| 14:31:16 | Bagder | rockbox is far away from the creatives |
| 14:31:48 | aliask | Plus the Vision M has this stupid scrollpad which is really hard to use (IMO) |
| 14:32:04 | moda | the thing that annoys me about the gigabeat is that its Microsoft centred, so it relies on wma and wmv and wma-drm |
| 14:32:08 | moda | i hate drm |
| 14:32:12 | moda | drm is stupid |
| 14:32:19 | aliask | You don't have to use it. |
| 14:32:31 | amiconn | It can be fun to code video support, and it's even possible to watch movies on a screen as small as the archos recorder/ondio lcd, but in order to enjoy video, it needs larger displays than those found in DAPs |
| 14:32:33 | moda | but its taking over manufactors focus's |
| 14:32:38 | Mordov|hardlywo | if you are goin got use rockbox you don't have to think abaout the codec... |
| 14:32:48 | amiconn | That explicitly includes the ipod video, imho |
| 14:33:45 | moda | an ipod + 4.3"+ 16:9 screen would be sufficient :p |
| 14:33:56 | moda | but pmps are muchu expensive :| |
| 14:34:27 | moda | and nonpocketable |
| 14:34:46 | linuxstb | moda: I'm sure Apple will oblige in the future. |
| 14:35:01 | moda | im sure they will |
| 14:35:04 | amiconn | Archos 604 has a 4.3" 16:9 lcd |
| 14:35:14 | amiconn | But AV700 is better - 7" lcd |
| 14:35:15 | aliask | As much as I hate rumours, I think a new iPod is overdue. |
| 14:35:28 | linuxstb | You could always attach the video-out on an ipod to an external LCD screen.... |
| 14:35:46 | moda | the iaudio a2 looks alright, but its fucking $700 :| |
| 14:36:06 | moda | aliask: sept 12 :) |
| 14:36:08 | moda | maybe |
| 14:36:21 | aliask | Is there some press conference or something? |
| 14:36:46 | moda | something, keynote speech in the US, and an apple venue in paris |
| 14:37:03 | aliask | Sounds about right. |
| 14:37:06 | linuxstb | Yes, some kind of movie-themed event I think. Rumours are that Apple will start selling full-length movies via ITMS for $14.99. |
| 14:37:08 | moda | bloody archos players are $900+ wtfh |
| 14:37:29 | linuxstb | Plus an upgrade to the video ipods. |
| 14:37:35 | aliask | That would be a good time to launch the real "Video iPod" then. |
| 14:37:58 | moda | there were some rumours that they couldnt get the touchscreen thing working properly etc :| |
| 14:38:01 | linuxstb | I'm interested to know if it will be another Broadcom/PP device, or if it will be the first using the new Samsung chip. |
| 14:38:31 | moda | if they release a new player, how soon would it be able to run rb? depending on what chip it uses? |
| 14:38:35 | aliask | It's been long enough since they annouced the partnership to have worked out a device using a samsung chip. |
| 14:38:53 | Bagder | moda: it is impossible to tell |
| 14:39:04 | moda | If they released something with a slightly bigger screen, increased battery life and 40gb single/80gb dual, id be content with that |
| 14:39:06 | moda | true Bagder |
| 14:39:51 | linuxstb | moda: That's even assuming anyone tries... I think the IPL people would probably be interested in it as well though. |
| 14:41:02 | moda | id much rather use rb than ipl |
| 14:41:22 | mirak | amiconn yes a gimmick and challenge |
| 14:41:47 | linuxstb | moda: If IPL started working on the new ipods, Rockbox would be able to steal their code and probably be working within a few days... |
| 14:41:47 | mirak | in fact doom is probably the most extreme case of gimickness |
| 14:42:07 | linuxstb | moda: Similarly the other way around... |
| 14:42:15 | moda | ? |
| 14:42:37 | Bagder | have the ipl guys done anything on the h10? |
| 14:42:45 | moda | as long as it plays mp3, flac and ogg, im happy :) |
| 14:42:49 | moda | and looks even remotely good |
| 14:43:19 | preglow | Bagder: it's not an ipod, is it |
| 14:43:25 | linuxstb | Bagder: Nothing at all AFAIK. When the idea of porting IPL to other DAPs has been mentioned, I've only ever seen people say "IPL is only for ipods". But maybe that's just the users talking... |
| 14:43:34 | Bagder | ok |
| 14:44:15 | preglow | ipodlinux seems pretty dead to me |
| 14:44:29 | preglow | the only svn commits i see are graphics related |
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| 14:44:58 | aliask | I find it really hard to find anything much about that project - it's really de-centralised. |
| 14:45:11 | * | linuxstb was about to say the same as aliask... |
| 14:45:21 | preglow | one of their biggest problems |
| 14:45:28 | preglow | it doesn't really feel like they have a community going |
| 14:45:54 | linuxstb | They seem to be outnumbered by about 10,000 users for every developer... |
| 14:46:00 | tucoz | hi, i wonder if anyone here knows how to sync the clock in vmware. I only suspend it when I close the wmware-player, so the clock is not set (like it is when you boot linux) |
| 14:46:03 | preglow | an area in which we are doing really well, if you ask me |
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| 14:47:34 | tucoz | to frase that question differently, is there some script or command to run in linux to sync the clock (to what the hardware clock says)? |
| 14:48:01 | preglow | ehm, can the clock not be synced to the hw clock? |
| 14:48:03 | Bagder | hwclock |
| 14:48:33 | Bagder | but that time problem is something vmware-related and not really linux-related |
| 14:48:45 | tucoz | preglow: the xubuntu vmware clock says 4:21 AM |
| 14:49:06 | tucoz | Bagder: thanks. |
| 14:49:20 | Bagder | "rdate ntp.lth.se" |
| 14:49:24 | Bagder | :-) |
| 14:50:00 | tucoz | rdate ntp.lth.se |
| 14:50:00 | linuxstb | I use ntpdate - any difference to rdate? |
| 14:50:02 | tucoz | sorry |
| 14:50:28 | preglow | ntp is a bit newer and better, afaik |
| 14:50:35 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:51:02 | Bagder | rdate is however dead simple and available on all unixes |
| 14:51:59 | moda | sigh |
| 14:52:04 | Slasheri | ideally there should be ntp server/daemon running on the machine to keep the clock accurate |
| 14:52:19 | Slasheri | better than 1ms accuracy with ntp over internet connection is possible |
| 14:52:56 | Bagder | yeah, the rfc mentions nanosecond accuracy iirc |
| 14:53:05 | Bagder | in theory |
| 14:53:55 | Bagder | personally I'm fine within being +- few seconds |
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| 14:54:27 | preglow | whatever ubuntu does for me is more than probably just fine |
| 14:55:21 | amiconn | tucoz: You need to run the vmware toolbox (requires X). It has an option to sync the clock with the host |
| 14:55:59 | tucoz | amiconn: ok. |
| 14:58:34 | tucoz | amiconn. that option was set. but the clock isn't synced |
| 14:59:15 | moda | should i install macosx on my pc? |
| 14:59:38 | moda | hrm |
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| 15:02:30 | markun | moda: btw the Gigabeat S is not likely to get rockbox support soon. We are working on the F (and X) |
| 15:02:55 | linuxstb | markun: What's the status? |
| 15:03:06 | moda | yea |
| 15:03:38 | markun | linuxstb: we are more or less waiting for vadim's mmu work before we can finish the bootloader and play with interrupts |
| 15:05:25 | markun | I've also got rid of the warnings in the bootloader build, but introduced a few new ones :) |
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| 15:06:00 | markun | linuxstb: did you take a look at the patch to move the ipod photo to target tree? |
| 15:06:37 | linuxstb | No. Do you have a link? |
| 15:07:16 | linuxstb | markun: It's OK, I've found it - #5890 |
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| 15:18:59 | theli_ua | linuxstb, btw, so whats with zxbox? |
| 15:19:22 | preglow | did lear mention whether he tried out gcc 4.1? |
| 15:20:09 | daurnimator | and there they saw a rock |
| 15:20:12 | daurnimator | it wasn't a rock |
| 15:20:16 | daurnimator | it was a rock lobster! |
| 15:20:22 | daurnimator | Rock lobster! |
| 15:20:29 | daurnimator | RocK LobSTer! |
| 15:20:42 | preglow | yes |
| 15:21:03 | daurnimator | rock looooooooooooooooooooobbster! |
| 15:21:09 | daurnimator | he was in a jam |
| 15:21:16 | daurnimator | he was in a giant cluam! |
| 15:22:14 | scorche | HERE COMES A BIKINI WHALE!!! |
| 15:22:42 | daurnimator | baken potatoes, baken in the sun |
| 15:22:59 | Bagder | did this turn into #weirdo ? |
| 15:23:04 | daurnimator | chased by a catfish |
| 15:23:04 | scorche | no |
| 15:23:11 | dan_a | #B-52s, I think... |
| 15:23:15 | scorche | just #B52sFanclub |
| 15:23:19 | daurnimator | :P |
| 15:23:57 | Bagder | I'll join #dontknowwhatB52isanddontcare |
| 15:24:03 | scorche | =O |
| 15:24:12 | scorche | 80s new wave band |
| 15:24:25 | Bagder | hey, "dontcare" |
| 15:24:25 | daurnimator | YOU DON"T KNOW THE B52s???? |
| 15:24:31 | Mordov|hardlywo | not exactly new wave |
| 15:24:34 | daurnimator | :P |
| 15:24:43 | scorche | yeah....i am a bit miffed about the dont care part |
| 15:25:15 | scorche | what kind of music *do* you listen to? |
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| 15:26:07 | scorche | Mordov|hardlywo: wikipedia defines them as new wave as well |
| 15:29:00 | moda | [23:19] <theli_ua> linuxstb, btw, so whats with zxbox? <−−−− wtf is it? |
| 15:29:15 | scorche | zx spectrum emulator |
| 15:29:30 | theli_ua | moda, http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5400 |
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| 15:30:12 | Siimors | hi there |
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| 15:30:41 | dan_a | Hi |
| 15:31:01 | Siimors | I know this probably isnt the place for my questions, but I can't any info in google |
| 15:31:18 | Siimors | has anyone used Mediacoder software? |
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| 15:33:52 | tucoz | Siimors: not that i have used Mediacoder software, but what is the question? |
| 15:33:57 | Siimors | a sec |
| 15:34:16 | tucoz | so that someone might be able to answer that |
| 15:34:57 | Siimors | tucoz: the question is |
| 15:35:42 | barrywardell | well, iriver are sending me back my unfixed H10... |
| 15:36:05 | Siimors | I have an ipod, and I want to convert all my ape>flac library to apple lossless and aac lc, I don't want to use free aac encoders but rather prefer itunes encoder, I have the Itunesencode.exe program which allows to convert flac from others programs, like foobar, which doesn't work for me as it should |
| 15:36:10 | barrywardell | shipped today by ups |
| 15:36:11 | scorche | barrywardell: oh?...i hadnt heard the latest news on it...why is it unfixed? |
| 15:36:21 | barrywardell | voided warranty |
| 15:36:33 | scorche | what did they say? |
| 15:36:38 | barrywardell | they wanted the charge as much to fix it as a new one costs |
| 15:36:57 | Siimors | I read theres a itunesencode support in mediacoder, I can find the settings for the codec, but whenever I try to browse the path for itunesencode.exe it never saves the settings, also I can't choose them in codec list when encoding |
| 15:37:21 | dan_a | barrywardell: What was wrong with it? A dead HDD? |
| 15:37:21 | tucoz | Siimors: i heard the encoder from ahead is really good |
| 15:37:27 | barrywardell | yeah, dead hdd |
| 15:37:44 | Siimors | tucoz: yeah, I have it too, but I heard that itunes is better |
| 15:37:49 | barrywardell | so now i have 1 and a half h10s :) |
| 15:37:51 | scorche | what did they say as a reason for the voided warranty? |
| 15:37:53 | Siimors | when dealing with AAC LC |
| 15:37:55 | dan_a | What sort of drives does it take? |
| 15:38:02 | barrywardell | i'm willing to donate the broken one to rockbox |
| 15:38:12 | barrywardell | hitachi 1.8" zif-connector |
| 15:38:21 | tucoz | ok |
| 15:38:46 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH10HardwareComponents#Seagate_ST1_5_6Gb_Hitachi_HTC426 |
| 15:38:56 | tucoz | Siimors: have you read this page? http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/MediaCoder_HOWTOs |
| 15:39:48 | tucoz | or their wiki in general: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| 15:40:26 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I guess that's different to the Elio's hard drive? It's another Hitachi Travelstar, but the DK14FA-20 |
| 15:40:27 | Siimors | tucoz: yes, but for some reason the Itunesencode tab doesn't show up in the list |
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| 15:40:50 | amiconn | linuxstb: 'FA' means ZIF connector iirc |
| 15:41:14 | tucoz | they have an official support forum as well |
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| 15:41:42 | Siimors | tucoz: no info on my problem, I tried several different versions, can't find the itunesencode tab in any of them |
| 15:42:19 | barrywardell | linuxstb: looks like that's a 'legacy' model |
| 15:42:19 | scorche | Siimors: then why dont you ask about it in the forum yourself? |
| 15:42:26 | daurn|afk | funky little shack |
| 15:42:30 | daurn|afk | funky little shack, yeah! |
| 15:42:49 | daurn|afk | everybodys movin, everybodys grovvin baby |
| 15:42:57 | tucoz | eeeww. b52's. yuck |
| 15:42:59 | scorche | daurn|afk: too mainstream and overplayed.. |
| 15:43:04 | Siimors | scorche: I could, but I decided to ask here, because the answer could take days, maybe you have an alternative for massive FLAC > AAC encoding? |
| 15:43:05 | linuxstb | barrywardell: The connector looks like this: http://www.backoffice.be/picts/I246999.jpg |
| 15:43:11 | daurn|afk | still a great tune ;) |
| 15:44:23 | tucoz | Siimors. maybe you should give the ahead encoder a shot. According to the hydrogenaudio, it produces excellent quality |
| 15:44:35 | barrywardell | ok, no that's different. mine looks like this: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/c4k60_slim/c4k60_slim_eis.htm |
| 15:44:49 | Siimors | tucoz: looks like it is my only option |
| 15:44:50 | scorche | Siimors: if you insist on itunes encoder, you can use dbpoweramp |
| 15:44:59 | barrywardell | it's kinda hard to make out, but the connector is kinda like the ones used for LCDs |
| 15:45:38 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I see - yes, definitely different. |
| 15:45:56 | barrywardell | i think you could build an ide adapter if you had the right connector for the zif end |
| 15:46:48 | linuxstb | In any case, it's probably most useful for a dev who doesn't already have a portalplayer device. |
| 15:47:54 | barrywardell | "CE = CE interface connector (ZIF type)" |
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| 15:48:25 | amiconn | ah |
| 15:49:34 | barrywardell | anyway, if anyone is interested, it's up for the taking when i get it |
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| 16:01:05 | mirak | if I want to profit of coldfire 5206e builds, do I need to rebuild gcc ? |
| 16:01:15 | mirak | or is that a configure parameter ? |
| 16:01:24 | Bagder | just rerun Rockbox's configure |
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| 16:43:09 | webguest14 | hey |
| 16:43:10 | webguest14 | can someone give me a hand |
| 16:43:19 | webguest14 | I installed rockbox, its great |
| 16:43:40 | webguest14 | can someone guide me how to use the ipod with my computer again and / or use the apple firmware |
| 16:44:06 | linuxstb | webguest14: Start here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 16:45:04 | webguest14 | many thanks linuxstb |
| 16:45:12 | webguest14 | was looking at the wrong faq |
| 16:47:09 | webguest14 | do I have to use the Apple firmware to be able to use the ipod as a disc |
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| 16:50:47 | nudelyn2 | webguest14: when you plug the USB cable in, unless you hold a button so it just charges, then rockbox reboots into apple's disk-mode firmware. |
| 16:52:11 | webguest14 | hmm it doesn't seem to work that way for me, I have to do it manually |
| 16:52:19 | webguest14 | I am using 3G though off firewire |
| 16:52:53 | nudelyn2 | I don't know much about RB on a 3G ipod, sorry |
| 16:53:06 | webguest14 | no probs :-) |
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| 16:56:34 | linuxstb | webguest14: The ipod FAQ was written with the 4G and later ipods in mind - so some of it may be wrong for the 3G. |
| 16:57:03 | linuxstb | But yes, as you've discovered you have to manually enter disk mode on the 3G ipods (and any ipod if you're using firewire - only USB is detected). |
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| 17:26:30 | Arathis | I noticed WPSs with backdrops often don't delet these when switching back to another WPS without backdrop. is it possible to do that automatic? an option like "backdrop=false" or so in the config of the WPSs without backdrops which would do that would be great. deleting them manualy is quite disturbing though |
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| 17:32:10 | Madcow | Hi I cannot search in .flac files on the X5. Is this a know problem??? |
| 17:34:48 | linuxstb | Madcow: It means your FLAC files don't have seektables. Did you encode using dbpoweramp? |
| 17:35:45 | linuxstb | You can add seekpoints using metaflac - something like "metaflac −−add-seekpoint=1s *.flac" |
| 17:36:20 | webguest14 | am I correct in saying M4a files are not supported |
| 17:36:24 | linuxstb | Someone is working on a patch to seek in FLAC files without seekpoints, but it will always be slower than seeking in a file with seekpoints. |
| 17:36:25 | webguest14 | unprotected MP4 files |
| 17:36:34 | linuxstb | webguest14: No. |
| 17:37:28 | Madcow | Okay thanks. it did indeed encode it with dbp amp. |
| 17:38:39 | Arathis | so no possibility to automaitcaly clear backdrops when the WPS doesn't support one? |
| 17:38:54 | linuxstb | Arathis: Not until someone fixes the bug. |
| 17:39:55 | Arathis | oh, it's as bug. good to know. is there a detailed bugreport or something about it? |
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| 18:20:07 | Arathis | linuxstb_: really no bugreport or something for the backdrop/WPS bug? |
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| 19:15:21 | Dan1 | hey guys |
| 19:15:33 | Dan1 | can someone help, i think i've really screwed up my ipod |
| 19:15:54 | Dan1 | I have screwed up the bootloader in some way |
| 19:15:58 | Dan1 | It works but only in disk mode |
| 19:16:07 | Dan1 | in any other mode, the folder icon pops up |
| 19:16:26 | Dan1 | i have tried formatting it over and over in FAT32, HFS, you name it. |
| 19:16:46 | Dan1 | Tried restoring the apple firmware, the restore go's well on my mac until it comes out of disk mode |
| 19:17:07 | Dan1 | When I plop the ipod on my XP pc, it blue screens the whole computer |
| 19:17:33 | Dan1 | is there an easy way to restore the bootloader? |
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| 19:18:28 | Dan1 | damn, noone there? |
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| 19:21:06 | Dan1 | hey merbanan can you help |
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| 20:03:35 | themaster | hello |
| 20:03:45 | themaster | is here a admin? |
| 20:05:15 | themaster | because i am the admin from rockbox-lounge.com and i gets post about the name rockbox, from a advocate |
| 20:06:01 | rageahol | wtf is rockbox-lounge |
| 20:06:20 | scorche | type it in and find out... |
| 20:07:33 | themaster | the advocate ask me in this letter why i use this name rockbox? |
| 20:08:51 | themaster | my problem is i must find out what we can do... |
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| 21:01:20 | preglow | haha |
| 21:01:22 | preglow | trademark issues... |
| 21:03:04 | Febs | Eh? |
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| 21:03:26 | Zagor | preglow: ? |
| 21:03:45 | scorche | preglow: what? |
| 21:06:01 | preglow | 20:00 |
| 21:07:06 | Ribs | aka "an hour ago" if you're not in his timezone :> |
| 21:07:13 | preglow | bleh |
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| 21:08:24 | Zagor | preglow: I'm contacting him to see if I can help |
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| 21:08:59 | preglow | i was wondering if that'd bite us |
| 21:09:04 | preglow | tons of people using that name around |
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| 21:09:26 | * | EV|Server is back (gone 16:00:40) |
| 21:10:03 | preglow | EV|Server: good to know |
| 21:11:38 | EV|Server | Sorry, its not supposed to be in this room |
| 21:12:01 | EV|Server | It does that when I wake it up... |
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| 21:14:11 | * | linuxstb_ wonders if he should give up on marsdaddy and start a wma port... |
| 21:14:15 | | Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
| 21:15:27 | preglow | linuxstb: mail him |
| 21:15:31 | preglow | as in email |
| 21:15:54 | linuxstb | Good idea, I'll do that now. |
| 21:16:51 | preglow | if he doesn't answer, then just go ahead |
| 21:17:32 | linuxstb | I don't know his email address though... I could send him a PM on the forums, but he hasn't visited them since July. |
| 21:18:15 | preglow | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984 |
| 21:18:17 | preglow | respond to that |
| 21:18:19 | preglow | that' |
| 21:18:24 | preglow | that'll send him a mail |
| 21:20:28 | preglow | at least there's a high probability of that working than the forum messager |
| 21:20:41 | preglow | which has email notification off by default, i think |
| 21:21:22 | linuxstb | Yes, I'll do that - I notice from the history that he's still subscribed to notifications. |
| 21:23:07 | preglow | having a wma codec would be very nice |
| 21:23:22 | preglow | if only to avoid all the nagging |
| 21:27:26 | | Join Steel2 [0] (i=d99d8f39@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 21:28:19 | Steel2 | I have a question about the Sansa E250. Any experts present? |
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| 21:31:18 | Steel2 | Here goes: I've tried the decipher the disassembled Sansa e200 BL code in order to find out how the LCD works (e.g. the framebuffer address) with no luck. 0x14700000 does not seem to work. |
| 21:31:23 | Steel2 | Any ideas? |
| 21:31:46 | preglow | i think the sansa dudes are away right now |
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| 21:34:19 | dan_a | Steel2: Some of the GPIO ports seem to be related to the framebuffer, and some addresses around 0xc2000000 too. |
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| 21:35:35 | Steel2 | Thanks, Dan. Do you know if it's like the Ipods with no real memory framebuffer? |
| 21:38:35 | preglow | probably |
| 21:40:45 | linuxstb | From what I've heard, I think it is different to the ipods - i.e. there is a part of SDRAM mapped as a framebuffer. But I could be wrong about that... |
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| 21:41:07 | Terinjokes | hey, i'm Vo Spader, and I've been in here a few times, i |
| 21:41:23 | Terinjokes | i'm requesting write permissions on the wiki |
| 21:41:33 | linuxstb | Are you a spammer? |
| 21:42:13 | Terinjokes | no, uploading a skin, and pointing a few things out on InstallIpodMacOS, or whatever its name is |
| 21:42:36 | Terinjokes | IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
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| 21:42:50 | linuxstb | You should be good to go... |
| 21:42:56 | Terinjokes | ok, thanks |
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| 21:45:20 | Terinjokes | do i have to have a ".rockbox" in my zip if i have "wps" and "theme" in the zip's root? |
| 21:46:19 | scorche | yes |
| 21:46:35 | preglow | linuxstb: nicety, let's hope he responds |
| 21:46:52 | scorche | oh wait...are you talking about uploading? |
| 21:47:13 | Terinjokes | yes |
| 21:48:14 | scorche | then no |
| 21:48:27 | Terinjokes | ok |
| 21:48:57 | Terinjokes | lol, going from MediaWiki to TWiki is, should i say, interesting |
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| 21:55:44 | webguest70 | how do i use a wps |
| 21:55:54 | webguest70 | i mean, how do i put it on the ipod |
| 21:56:37 | Terinjokes | what OS are you running? |
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| 21:58:13 | Terinjokes | you should just be able to drag the folders into the ".rockbox" directory on your ipod |
| 21:58:34 | webguest70 | xp |
| 21:58:46 | webguest70 | so i just drag the entire folder into the rockbox dir? |
| 21:58:52 | webguest70 | how do i use it once i do that |
| 21:59:21 | Terinjokes | what WPS are you downloading? |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:19 | webguest70 | the ipod5g |
| 22:00:35 | webguest70 | so i guess i need the patches and how to use those too |
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| 22:02:22 | Terinjokes | are you installing http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#iPod_Theme_for_iPod_5G |
| 22:02:24 | Terinjokes | ? |
| 22:02:54 | webguest70 | yes |
| 22:03:14 | webguest70 | no, i pod vision \ |
| 22:03:24 | webguest70 | with album art |
| 22:04:05 | Terinjokes | ok |
| 22:05:04 | Terinjokes | ok so you dragged "backdrops", "fonts", "themes", and "wps" to your ".rockbox" on your ipod video, right? |
| 22:05:10 | webguest70 | yes |
| 22:05:20 | webguest70 | i just unzipped it to .rockbox |
| 22:05:38 | Terinjokes | ok...unplug your ipod and boot it up so your at the main screen |
| 22:05:53 | webguest70 | what about the patches that it says that i need |
| 22:06:38 | Terinjokes | i don't believe those are official, so i can't support them |
| 22:06:44 | webguest70 | ok |
| 22:06:53 | webguest70 | so, i have the ipod open to the main screen |
| 22:07:03 | Terinjokes | hit the menu button |
| 22:07:08 | webguest70 | k |
| 22:07:16 | Terinjokes | then go to "browse themes" |
| 22:07:21 | webguest70 | ok |
| 22:07:23 | webguest70 | ahhh |
| 22:07:26 | webguest70 | much better |
| 22:07:30 | Terinjokes | and select ipod vision |
| 22:08:06 | webguest70 | ok, and to add music to ipod, do i just drag and drop music folders and files into data directory |
| 22:08:10 | Terinjokes | now, rather it looks right when playing, I don't know, but i'm sure there are install instructions for the patchs |
| 22:08:33 | Terinjokes | yes, or, if you prefer use itunes |
| 22:09:03 | Terinjokes | or real player, or any of the ipod applications |
| 22:09:10 | webguest70 | ok |
| 22:13:48 | Terinjokes | any other questions? |
| 22:16:31 | Steel2 | linuxstb: According to Daniel the e200 framebuffer is mapped at 0x14700000, but it doesn't seem to work. |
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| 22:22:28 | webguest70 | no thanks, i really appreciate |
| 22:22:30 | webguest70 | it |
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| 22:23:17 | Terinjokes | hey sharpe |
| 22:23:24 | sharpe | Hi? |
| 22:26:31 | Terinjokes | you know, i envy the ipod video users |
| 22:26:38 | sharpe | Why's that? |
| 22:27:00 | Terinjokes | they get all the cool themes |
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| 22:29:02 | sharpe | :) |
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| 22:33:31 | sharpe | Well, I put a semi-interesting use to a very old laptop of mine... |
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| 22:36:51 | Terinjokes | and what that? |
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| 22:39:04 | sharpe | Turned it into a sort of non-portable remote for media player classic... |
| 22:39:42 | Terinjokes | ah, ok |
| 22:39:52 | sharpe | Good ole serial cables... |
| 22:40:08 | Terinjokes | i have a question, anyone know how to downgrade the ipod nano to version 1.1? |
| 22:40:20 | Terinjokes | 1.2 broke stuff |
| 22:41:15 | Terinjokes | i'm here http://www.apple.com/ipod/download/ but can't find it |
| 22:42:14 | Terinjokes | nevermind |
| 22:42:27 | sharpe | Glad to help. |
| 22:42:29 | Terinjokes | sharpe, still got those cables...lol, where did mine go? |
| 22:42:36 | sharpe | Hmm? |
| 22:42:45 | Terinjokes | sharpe, yep, telepathy always works ;-) |
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| 22:46:15 | Terinjokes | crap...apple removed the download |
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| 22:49:45 | dionoea | hi |
| 22:49:49 | Terinjokes | hi |
| 22:51:41 | Terinjokes | anyone have "iPod Updater 2006-03-23"?? |
| 22:52:37 | sharpe | Terinjokes: http://www.ipodwizard.net/showthread.php?t=7369 |
| 22:53:00 | Terinjokes | lol, i'm already on that forum, looking for a mac version ;-) |
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| 22:55:22 | Terinjokes | take you softpedia ;-) |
| 22:56:07 | Terinjokes | which means i get to stare at a progress bar again today, after frying my nano yesterday and bringing it back |
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| 23:02:11 | Terinjokes | i have a question, if i downgrade my nano, should i extract apple_os.bin from the installer i'm using, or the most up-to-date apple installer? |
| 23:02:23 | dionoea | i'm thinking about doing some kind of an animation when moving cards in solitaire (if it doesn't slow it too much). Would that be too much ? |
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| 23:09:02 | Terinjokes | i think it would go over the top |
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| 23:09:41 | Terinjokes | if it makes my music skip or drain my battery that is, overwise, i could careless |
| 23:10:06 | dionoea | i'll give it a try |
| 23:10:10 | dionoea | see how it looks |
| 23:12:00 | Terinjokes | cool |
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| 23:13:52 | Bagder | we just got a fresh sansa hacker signed up |
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| 23:14:08 | Bagder | but still no LCD :-/ |
| 23:15:21 | preglow | what about the jtag board? |
| 23:15:33 | preglow | shouldn't that ease re a good bit? |
| 23:15:43 | dionoea | what about the patent infringement thing ? :) (or just copyright infringement?) |
| 23:16:14 | Bagder | preglow: yeah, but me and Linus have had our lives too full of crap since we got it so we haven't had the time to play jtag on it |
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| 23:16:57 | preglow | Bagder: then what about giving it to someone with the time? |
| 23:17:16 | Bagder | I'd do that if someone volunteers |
| 23:17:48 | preglow | i don't even know who does sansa hacking, heh |
| 23:17:52 | preglow | i've got my plate full anyway |
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| 23:21:16 | Soap | I'm going to do some new runtime tests this weekend on my iPod 5th gen. I think I should be given a loaner. 30+ hours w/o it will make me cry. |
| 23:21:19 | preglow | :/ |
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