| 00:00:28 | Bagder | but hopefully you're right and it is next to identical to the 3g ipod |
| 00:00:48 | RayDee | i suppose this wouldn'T help me much either |
| 00:01:08 | RayDee | as long as i don't have any exact information |
| 00:01:46 | Bagder | well, you can try things the 3g way and find out |
| 00:02:20 | RayDee | sounds fair enough |
| 00:02:38 | RayDee | as lon as i don't mess with the flash i should not be able to brick it |
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| 00:05:00 | webguest52 | olah everyone! |
| 00:05:21 | RayDee | hi |
| 00:09:29 | Arathis | RayDee: did you just try searching the net for information about your players hardware? perhaps someone else already took it apart. |
| 00:09:52 | webguest52 | help: how do I ask nickserv to switch to my nickname?! |
| 00:10:16 | linuxstb | /nick newnick |
| 00:10:25 | RayDee | Arathis: didn't try yet... but the searches i did always shoed up ebay, dooyoo or other crap |
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| 00:10:41 | RayDee | maybe i just didn't have the right search terms |
| 00:11:03 | lamed | 10x |
| 00:11:45 | markun | RayDee: I also didn't find anything so far |
| 00:13:22 | lamed | there's a new cgiirc over http://cgiirc.sourceforge.net/?newsall=1 |
| 00:13:35 | RayDee | anyone knows what this is ? EasyH10 [Win32 GUI] for MDJUKE ? |
| 00:13:58 | RayDee | (mdjuke is a synonym for my player) |
| 00:13:59 | linuxstb | RayDee: One thing is different to the 3g ipod - your player has a PP502x, not the 3g's PP5002. |
| 00:14:01 | barrywardell | it just builds the database |
| 00:14:08 | crashd | it's an app that lets you generate the h10 database without the awful iriver software |
| 00:14:15 | RayDee | oh, ic |
| 00:14:17 | barrywardell | so you can search by album, artist,etc |
| 00:14:32 | crashd | very handy software if you're using iriver firmware |
| 00:14:36 | crashd | as their software is a shambling mess |
| 00:14:51 | barrywardell | it works with non iriver too |
| 00:15:15 | crashd | well, yeh, but it's kinda silly using it with non iriver ;) |
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| 00:15:44 | RayDee | i suppose it works for all players using the plp format for playlists |
| 00:16:01 | lamed | I'd like to know what's the h10 status, the IriverH10Port Current Status phrase is far from being helpful. other then still not having radio or recorder, is it working nicely? or bugs are still everywhere? (i'm asking so I could tell my friends whether they can move or not to RB) |
| 00:16:30 | barrywardell | it can probably work with all players that use mi4 firmwares |
| 00:17:01 | barrywardell | lamed: it's hard keeping that page updated, things change so ofteen |
| 00:17:16 | Bagder | lamed: it runs pretty good, your friends can easily just try it and revert if they don't think its any fun |
| 00:17:30 | lamed | hi barry, never had the time to say thanks for all of your hard work :) |
| 00:17:36 | barrywardell | it works well for me. i think it's approaching the level of the ipods, but with quite a few more bugs |
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| 00:18:54 | Arathis | lamed: a problem you might consider is that battery lifetime isn't that high as with the iriver firmware atm |
| 00:19:13 | Arathis | or did you do a wonder barrywardell since yesterday? ;) |
| 00:19:53 | barrywardell | i haven't actually ever tested the battery life and haven't heard any reports either. i just assume it will be worse |
| 00:19:57 | lamed | other then the not-implemented functions, what bugs should I expect? (I switched to RB on my h120 when entering the playlist screen while playing music got the player to freeze... and still I was thrilled :) but it's not any good for my friends then ) |
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| 00:20:49 | RayDee | markun: in case you don't know this yet... there is a updated firmware for the 420 jukebox which runs way better than the original ton my 220 |
| 00:20:51 | barrywardell | playback skips if you have a wps with peakmeters |
| 00:21:45 | RayDee | markun: http://rapidshare.de/files/30850328/Medion_420_1.5.7_Firmware.rar.html YMMV |
| 00:21:46 | barrywardell | some of the plugins haven't been resized for the screen on the 5/6GB models |
| 00:21:47 | lamed | reffering to battery life: is there a usb2go chip like there is in the h300? or that the problem accures because of high cpu usage |
| 00:22:02 | Arathis | ..or scroll very fast through the files or have a not so well set EQ running or what else could use much CPU power |
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| 00:22:13 | barrywardell | lamed: high cpu usage. we currently run the cpu at it's maximum speed all the time |
| 00:22:18 | barrywardell | but that will change soon |
| 00:23:16 | Arathis | lamed: but a good question I wanted to ask many times: is usb-to-go hardware set or a software thing that could be implemented? |
| 00:23:39 | lamed | it's hardware... |
| 00:24:10 | barrywardell | aac skips, again probably because of cpu usage |
| 00:24:11 | lamed | and you can't really do anything with the usb2 card that most player use. |
| 00:24:24 | lamed | only computer nerds play aac :DDD |
| 00:25:01 | Arathis | lamed: speaking of USB: USB support isn't there yet, but using the UMS trick without resetting the player (though RB shuts it down completly) works as known for the iriver firmware. if your friend's got a UMS player that doesn't really mater at all I think ;) |
| 00:25:23 | Arathis | too bad (usb2go) |
| 00:25:25 | Arathis | :( |
| 00:26:18 | lamed | barrywardell: I assume that a player that had to use that iriver's program could be used as a ums device drive, correct? |
| 00:27:06 | lamed | ah... whoops, slow reader |
| 00:27:07 | barrywardell | they can all be used as a ums device, but some need a 'trick' to put them into ums mode |
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| 00:28:41 | lamed | arathis: I didn't get it, what's the ums trick? |
| 00:30:54 | barrywardell | lamed: hold 'O' while the H10 starts up from a powered off state |
| 00:31:20 | barrywardell | unfortunately, the iriver fw never powers off fully, but goes into standby instead |
| 00:31:47 | barrywardell | so you have to force it to power off fully either by removing the battery or pushing the reset button with a pin |
| 00:32:51 | lamed | so, doesn't RB fw powers off fully? |
| 00:33:05 | Arathis | nope |
| 00:33:43 | lamed | then I assume you ment the iriver hardware never powers off fully? |
| 00:33:48 | Arathis | not when you shut it down. after some hours it does, but till than it's just in standby so it can easily and quick restart |
| 00:34:10 | barrywardell | Rockbox does power off fully, yes |
| 00:34:33 | barrywardell | so you don't need to worry about carrying a pin around with you :) |
| 00:34:37 | Arathis | oh, sry. misreading |
| 00:35:16 | lamed | can you shut it down from RB and then restart it with the O button - > not reseting or removing the battery? |
| 00:35:46 | lamed | (I still carry a pin with my h120, just used it!) |
| 00:35:56 | Arathis | when you shut down RB you just need to press Power an 'O' till it says "emergency connect" |
| 00:36:15 | barrywardell | lamed: yes |
| 00:36:25 | Arathis | and that while connected to the pc of course |
| 00:36:31 | lamed | ok I got you :) |
| 00:37:19 | lamed | is anyone working on the usb driver? |
| 00:37:47 | barrywardell | not yet |
| 00:38:09 | barrywardell | the same usb driver should work for the ipods and for the h10 |
| 00:38:15 | Arathis | lamed: interested in doing it ;) |
| 00:38:17 | Arathis | ? |
| 00:38:28 | barrywardell | so if someone is working on one for the ipod, we will benefit |
| 00:38:38 | barrywardell | or vice versa |
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| 00:39:50 | lamed | arathis: I wish I could program hardware matters |
| 00:41:15 | * | lamed can't get his player recognized :/ |
| 00:41:22 | Arathis | lamed: I wish I could program at all. (html and qbasic don't count ;)) |
| 00:41:48 | lamed | if you're good in qbasic you can easily learn C |
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| 00:43:06 | lamed | arathis: for how long were you into RB? |
| 00:43:12 | maddog011 | barrywardell, any new progress on the h10 firmware? |
| 00:44:02 | barrywardell | maddog011: all the time. check the cvs logs... |
| 00:44:14 | maddog011 | can u link me plz |
| 00:44:31 | Arathis | lamed: I only had some lessons in basic QB some years ago. functions and things like that were the best we did. but I don't have the time and will to learn C atm. |
| 00:44:33 | lamed | lamed's homepaged: http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 00:44:47 | lamed | ^ that's for you maddog011 |
| 00:44:54 | maddog011 | thanx lamed :D |
| 00:45:17 | Arathis | lamed: I'm just an interested user who'd likes to help :) |
| 00:46:19 | lamed | tell me about it, it was about a year and a half when I started to have a little spare time to learn C, it was about two years until my first patch was ready :) |
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| 00:46:52 | lamed | no, sorry, I calculated from the day of purchasing the player |
| 00:47:06 | RayDee | hmm, can anyone help me with setting up cygwin for cross compile for arm-elf ? |
| 00:47:36 | Soap | Am I correct in assuming RockBox "detects" USB via power being applied to the dock connector pin 23 (USB 5+), and that if I wanted to build a charging dock that didn't trigger the boot to Apple disc mode I should apply power to the firewire pins 19&29? |
| 00:47:38 | lamed | ( RayDee is going to get lots of 'use Vmware' sentences now) |
| 00:47:50 | RayDee | hmm, k |
| 00:47:54 | RayDee | hehe |
| 00:48:02 | lamed | soap: depends on the player |
| 00:48:05 | Arathis | lamed: I'd rather more like to learn PHP and MySQL as next. but I'm going to univerity from next month on so I have more important things to do first |
| 00:48:14 | lamed | soap: what player |
| 00:48:38 | lamed | nm soap |
| 00:48:50 | lamed | (ipod) |
| 00:48:51 | RayDee | so, there is a vmware image ? |
| 00:49:19 | lamed | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 00:49:42 | RayDee | thanks a lot :) |
| 00:52:04 | lamed | soap, have you searched ipodlinux for that? |
| 00:52:09 | linuxstb | Soap: It's a bug that Rockbox misdetects a power-only USB connection as a USB connection to a computer and reboots. Hopefully we'll figure it out, but Rockbox doesn't simply check for USB power. |
| 00:53:29 | Soap | ahh |
| 00:54:01 | lamed | linuxstb: i'm certin iriver's only checks for usb 5volt power |
| 00:54:06 | Soap | so if I /only/ apply power to the USB port it won't trigger the reboot? |
| 00:55:53 | lamed | were you asking me? i'm ipod clueless |
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| 00:56:39 | linuxstb | Soap: Currently yes. But hopefully not in the future. |
| 00:56:51 | linuxstb | (maybe...) |
| 00:56:58 | Siimors | hi :) |
| 00:57:38 | Soap | Now I'm confused? Currentyl it /will/ trigger? |
| 00:59:03 | linuxstb | Sorry, I've been a bit confusing. I'm just saying that yes, it probably will trigger now, but it shouldn't, and I hope we can fix that soon. |
| 00:59:53 | lamed | I'd suggest you to find the 5V pins on the charger, and find them on the usb-firewire connection as well, if you get what you think you get (pins 23,19,29, whatever you said before), then I think you will get exactly what you think. you can as well disconnect the data cable if you are afraid it will cause problems later on, but i THINK rb uses hardware's usb detection, at least on the h1x0 series, and that means t |
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| 01:00:47 | Soap | for I'm wiring up some mic amps in prep. for recording, and was going to add an (ipod) power port. |
| 01:00:54 | lamed | linuxsb: do you know how usb detection works in rb over iriver's? |
| 01:01:24 | linuxstb | No idea. It's completely different on the h1x0/h3x0 compared to the ipods and h10 though. |
| 01:02:08 | lamed | hmmm. but I still think you could never count on the data connection. |
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| 01:03:49 | maddog011 | did the mi4 file change for the H10 since the last few days? |
| 01:04:27 | Arathis | maddog011: just redownload it. it's just some KB |
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| 01:05:33 | barrywardell | maddog011: yes, it changed a small bit when the LCD changes were made |
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| 01:05:42 | maddog011 | looks identical in size |
| 01:05:50 | lamed | it looks like my 3 years old player hardrive or usb interface is diying |
| 01:06:05 | maddog011 | perhaps I don't have the same link |
| 01:06:11 | maddog011 | is it this one: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/H10_20GC.mi4 |
| 01:06:42 | maddog011 | is that the newest? |
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| 01:07:18 | Arathis | yes |
| 01:07:39 | maddog011 | thanx |
| 01:07:45 | Arathis | make a checksum. size can fool you |
| 01:07:48 | Arathis | ;) |
| 01:08:07 | lamed | bye guys |
| 01:08:11 | maddog011 | bye |
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| 01:09:50 | maddog011 | hey I have a idea, what do you think about making a skin for rockbox that reads the cover.jpg file from the directory of the artist, and displays it as a background when playing ? |
| 01:10:23 | barrywardell | maddog011: you're talking about album art. |
| 01:10:35 | maddog011 | does it exist? |
| 01:10:39 | barrywardell | there are patches available,but iirc they only work with bmp files |
| 01:11:03 | barrywardell | it will probably eventually make it into rockbox |
| 01:11:07 | Arathis | why does rockbox only support bmp at all? |
| 01:11:25 | maddog011 | yes, why only bmp... |
| 01:11:32 | barrywardell | what do you mean by at all? |
| 01:11:53 | maddog011 | in flyspray |
| 01:12:03 | Soap | the WPS system in bmp based. |
| 01:12:10 | Soap | *is |
| 01:12:29 | barrywardell | bmp is the easiest format to use. it doesn't need to be decoded or anything like that |
| 01:12:54 | Arathis | ah, ic |
| 01:13:49 | Soap | there is no need for jpg decoding in wpss, and the album art patch is just a tie into the WPS system. for the album art patch to add a jpg cover it would have to decode it itself and then add it to the WPS structure. |
| 01:14:39 | Soap | Lord, that was painful to read, sorry, I won't try to compose answers while on the phone with my mother again :( |
| 01:15:33 | maddog011 | is there any tutorial on making WPS file's? |
| 01:15:42 | Arathis | look in the RB wiki |
| 01:15:58 | maddog011 | got it |
| 01:16:01 | Soap | and the manual has a good breakdown of all the WPS tags. |
| 01:16:03 | Arathis | there are at least two. one complex and one "the easy way" |
| 01:16:08 | maddog011 | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/custom_wps_format.html |
| 01:16:09 | maddog011 | found thi sone |
| 01:16:36 | maddog011 | can I use colors ? |
| 01:16:55 | Arathis | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking |
| 01:17:08 | Arathis | if your display supports it, why not? |
| 01:17:13 | maddog011 | it does |
| 01:17:14 | maddog011 | ncie |
| 01:17:27 | maddog011 | I notice most of the default wps's were in b/w |
| 01:18:33 | Arathis | for which player? |
| 01:18:36 | maddog011 | h10 |
| 01:18:46 | Arathis | they are? oO |
| 01:18:56 | maddog011 | yea... |
| 01:19:03 | maddog011 | all b/w :( |
| 01:19:03 | Arathis | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5 |
| 01:19:16 | Arathis | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=160x128x16 |
| 01:19:22 | maddog011 | my god... |
| 01:19:28 | scorche | that is the x5... |
| 01:19:47 | Arathis | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46452 |
| 01:19:51 | Arathis | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46350 |
| 01:20:01 | maddog011 | my.... god.... its beautifull :) |
| 01:20:05 | Arathis | scorche: h10/20gb and X5 have the same display size |
| 01:20:16 | maddog011 | I got the 20gb one |
| 01:20:18 | scorche | yeah...i was thinking of the 5/6 |
| 01:20:22 | Arathis | so you can use X5 WPSs for the H10/20gb |
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| 01:21:07 | Arathis | the first MR link I posted includes the only gb WPSs I know of so far |
| 01:21:14 | LorenzoQ | hello |
| 01:21:19 | LorenzoQ | i need help |
| 01:22:18 | LorenzoQ | ipod mini 6gb, went to play a song and froze |
| 01:22:33 | LorenzoQ | how do i turn it off to restart? |
| 01:23:00 | maddog011 | awsome |
| 01:23:18 | LorenzoQ | ya |
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| 01:24:24 | LorenzoQ | anyone know how to force shutdown or anything? |
| 01:24:36 | LorenzoQ | or do i have to wait until it runs out of battery |
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| 01:25:06 | scorche | LorenzoQ: hold select and menu |
| 01:25:44 | LorenzoQ | cheers scorche that worked |
| 01:26:23 | maddog011 | hm, can I now adjust the screen contrast? |
| 01:26:30 | maddog011 | in the new rockbox? |
| 01:29:19 | barrywardell | yes |
| 01:29:29 | maddog011 | where is that option in the menu? |
| 01:30:00 | maddog011 | is it in LCD settings? because I can't find it... |
| 01:30:05 | Arathis | maddog011: if you like simple but colored themes: I'm thinking about making a WPS out of my H10 teme (http://sinlos.net/dirk/h10/Simplified%202D/preview_now-playing.png). if you have a 5/6gb it coulad also be simple scaled to that |
| 01:30:27 | barrywardell | yes, it's there. make sure you have the newest cvs version |
| 01:30:29 | maddog011 | im thinking of making a wps theme too for my H10 |
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| 01:30:36 | Arathis | :D |
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| 01:31:15 | maddog011 | it says my version is: cvs - 060909 |
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| 01:31:43 | Arathis | barrywardell: is it worth to wait some more minutes for an update? :) |
| 01:31:46 | barrywardell | when did you download it? |
| 01:31:54 | maddog011 | 5 min ago |
| 01:31:55 | barrywardell | Arathis: just one bug left |
| 01:31:59 | Arathis | :) |
| 01:32:03 | Arathis | i'll wait |
| 01:32:13 | maddog011 | http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-h10/rockbox.zip |
| 01:32:21 | maddog011 | I got it from there |
| 01:33:12 | barrywardell | it should be in LCD settings then. do you have an option for flipping the LCD? |
| 01:33:18 | maddog011 | no |
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| 01:33:30 | maddog011 | I will redownload, to make sure |
| 01:33:34 | barrywardell | it's called "Upside down" |
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| 01:35:47 | * | Arathis is holding his eyes open although he's quiet tierd |
| 01:35:53 | maddog011 | hm |
| 01:35:59 | maddog011 | the display quality is somewhat different... |
| 01:36:01 | maddog011 | on the new |
| 01:36:23 | Arathis | better or worse? |
| 01:36:42 | maddog011 | worse |
| 01:36:47 | Arathis | oO |
| 01:37:05 | barrywardell | worse in what way? |
| 01:37:06 | Arathis | *fearing to try out the new build now* |
| 01:37:19 | maddog011 | hm... ok the display now looks like |
| 01:37:25 | maddog011 | it has a worse refresh rate |
| 01:37:29 | maddog011 | kind of flickery |
| 01:38:05 | barrywardell | is that with a new build? |
| 01:38:11 | maddog011 | and when you move the scrollbar to down, I can see some lines like when you look a action scene on a crappy ripped movie |
| 01:38:17 | maddog011 | yes, that's the new build |
| 01:38:24 | maddog011 | look at it for your self |
| 01:38:48 | Arathis | maddog011: 5/6gb or 20gb? |
| 01:38:51 | maddog011 | 20 |
| 01:39:01 | * | Arathis fears again |
| 01:39:06 | maddog011 | its ok now |
| 01:39:06 | maddog011 | .... |
| 01:39:18 | maddog011 | the screen glitch dissapeared !? |
| 01:39:18 | maddog011 | ... |
| 01:39:27 | maddog011 | thjis is strange ima try to reproduce the effect |
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| 01:39:49 | barrywardell | i haven't noticed anything like that myself |
| 01:40:01 | maddog011 | it works ok now..... |
| 01:40:20 | barrywardell | maddog011: try resetting your settings |
| 01:40:21 | maddog011 | Maybe it's my brain im not sure... i will tell you if I notice it |
| 01:40:26 | maddog011 | again |
| 01:40:30 | TeaSea | Man my collection's getting to the point where it takes a while to rescan. |
| 01:40:38 | barrywardell | Arathis: barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.zip">http://www.barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.zip |
| 01:40:54 | TeaSea | Meaning upgrading amarok is usually a process I have to have a bit of spare time for :D |
| 01:40:54 | maddog011 | that the new build? |
| 01:40:58 | barrywardell | a little preview. don't go into the debug menu or you won't be able to get out |
| 01:41:08 | maddog011 | ima check it out too :D |
| 01:41:15 | maddog011 | can I ? |
| 01:41:15 | barrywardell | almost complete keymap reworking |
| 01:41:22 | barrywardell | maddog011: yes |
| 01:42:25 | Arathis | barrywardell: why can't get out of it? |
| 01:42:31 | maddog011 | hehe, does anyone notice that this player heats up occasionaly :) |
| 01:42:58 | barrywardell | Arathis: no keymaps.i can't get them to work. i blame tiredness |
| 01:43:13 | maddog011 | the sound codec's are changed ? |
| 01:43:18 | barrywardell | maddog011: it sure does. kinda explains the poor battery life |
| 01:43:18 | maddog011 | how come? |
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| 01:43:40 | barrywardell | sound codecs? |
| 01:43:47 | Arathis | I'd wait than till the keymap is evven more workable |
| 01:44:00 | maddog011 | a52.codec was different size :) |
| 01:44:17 | Arathis | barrywardell: any other changes than the keymaps in this patch? |
| 01:44:23 | barrywardell | nope |
| 01:45:04 | maddog011 | hehe barry |
| 01:45:06 | maddog011 | I can't get in the menu :) |
| 01:45:18 | maddog011 | main menu is with power button |
| 01:45:42 | barrywardell | that's what i mean by new keymaps |
| 01:46:05 | maddog011 | how do you go in the other menu? |
| 01:46:11 | maddog011 | I just figured out |
| 01:46:14 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5940 |
| 01:46:21 | Arathis | barrywardell: or is the only "bug" in the keymap that one with the dev menu? |
| 01:46:32 | maddog011 | I like this remap |
| 01:46:33 | barrywardell | yes |
| 01:47:14 | maddog011 | barry you are a genius :) |
| 01:47:30 | maddog011 | this is awsome |
| 01:47:30 | Arathis | than I'll tr being a beta-tester for now :) |
| 01:47:41 | barrywardell | the remapping was Nico_P's suggestion |
| 01:48:36 | maddog011 | hm, know what would be cool too... if you hold the right button on the directory you get to choose if you want to add the directory to queue |
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| 01:49:12 | Arathis | is there an up2date description of the general keymaps or is the one in Nico_P's first post unchanged for that? |
| 01:49:29 | maddog011 | and recursively add the directory's in that as well |
| 01:50:52 | barrywardell | it's mostly unchanged from Nico_P's suggestions and my comments below |
| 01:51:02 | barrywardell | that's the only documentation there is at the moment |
| 01:51:12 | maddog011 | lol whatsup with the upside down :D its mirrored :D |
| 01:51:27 | Arathis | btw: when I copy a new rockbox.zip content over the existing files/dirs on my player, are there any important files that could be overwritten? config files or such |
| 01:51:59 | maddog011 | had to use the mirror to return it to normal :D |
| 01:52:01 | Arathis | maddog011: wasn't that what it was supposed to be? |
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| 01:52:36 | maddog011 | its upside down/mirror? |
| 01:52:42 | maddog011 | what is it for?! |
| 01:52:54 | barrywardell | maddog011: must my new lcd code causing problems |
| 01:53:06 | barrywardell | you can change that in the lcd menu |
| 01:54:10 | barrywardell | Arathis:no files that I know of. settings are stored elsewhere |
| 01:54:28 | Arathis | k |
| 01:54:36 | maddog011 | barry im out to bed thanx so much for the build, talk to you tomorrow :) |
| 01:54:48 | barrywardell | bye |
| 01:54:53 | Arathis | wait! |
| 01:55:11 | Arathis | oh, sry. thought barrywardell was leaving :) |
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| 01:55:25 | barrywardell | i will be soon |
| 01:55:48 | Arathis | barrywardell: *what* needs to be changed regarding the LCD problems? or did I misunderstand your "you can change that in the lcd menu"? |
| 01:55:54 | Arathis | me too |
| 01:56:00 | Arathis | very soon though |
| 01:56:03 | barrywardell | the upside down problem |
| 01:56:16 | barrywardell | there's an option for "Upside down" now |
| 01:56:22 | barrywardell | only on 20GB |
| 01:56:22 | Arathis | ah, okay. thought of the problems maddog011 mentioned earlier |
| 01:56:35 | Arathis | glad to have one :) |
| 01:57:53 | Arathis | what is the quick- and pitchscreen? |
| 01:58:40 | barrywardell | try them! |
| 01:58:51 | Arathis | :) |
| 01:59:24 | Arathis | lazy bastard you ;) |
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| 02:04:32 | Arathis | barrywardell: I'll try the new version and report. but now I'm going to bed (2:04am here). good night |
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| 02:04:52 | barrywardell | me too |
| 02:04:56 | barrywardell | bye |
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| 02:29:14 | z0de | hi |
| 02:32:18 | Siimors | hi |
| 02:33:14 | z0de | im going to be getting a new mp3 player soon, any reccomendations |
| 02:34:07 | Siimors | i guess iAudio X5 is the best thing right now |
| 02:34:13 | Siimors | but don't quote me on that |
| 02:34:19 | Siimors | I'm using ipod |
| 02:34:50 | z0de | yea im trying to avoid the pod |
| 02:35:07 | Siimors | good luck :) |
| 02:35:14 | z0de | i know |
| 02:36:26 | z0de | wow the iAudio X5 looks nice |
| 02:36:36 | Siimors | and it sound good too |
| 02:36:40 | z0de | when i say looks i mean features too |
| 02:37:27 | z0de | why did you get an ipod? |
| 02:37:35 | Siimors | coz I couldn't get iAudio |
| 02:37:53 | Siimors | where I live you either get ipod or creative |
| 02:38:26 | z0de | no internet out there huh? |
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| 02:39:09 | z0de | j/k |
| 02:40:35 | Siimors | z0de: well |
| 02:40:42 | Siimors | it really isn't an option |
| 02:40:45 | Siimors | if something goes wrong |
| 02:40:53 | Siimors | I have to send it through mail to repair |
| 02:40:58 | Siimors | it costs time and money |
| 02:41:34 | z0de | i guess, where are you? |
| 02:44:20 | z0de | anyone here got any complants about the iAudio X5? |
| 02:45:39 | Siimors | im in EU, Latvia |
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| 02:46:52 | zblach | hey all |
| 02:47:01 | z0de | hi |
| 02:47:42 | zblach | anything new and exciting in the world of rockbox? |
| 02:48:41 | belze | every second! |
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| 02:50:20 | zblach | did I miss a text-alignment breakthrough? my on screen text seems to jam itself into the top-left corner of my ipod |
| 02:50:21 | z0de | hm the iAudio X5 does not have a iD3-tag database |
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| 03:00:48 | z0de | anyone here with a iAudio X5L and rockbox? |
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| 03:01:20 | Quazgaa | z0de: i just got mine from the ups man yesterday ;) |
| 03:01:32 | Quazgaa | and installed rockbox on it last night |
| 03:01:56 | z0de | hows it performing for you? im thinking of getting it |
| 03:02:34 | Quazgaa | well, the last portable music player thing i owned was a cd player from like 15 years ago, so i think its awesome |
| 03:02:38 | Quazgaa | :P |
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| 03:02:54 | Quazgaa | rockbox seems to work quite well on it |
| 03:02:58 | z0de | :) easy to navigate songs? |
| 03:03:11 | Quazgaa | yeah |
| 03:03:28 | Quazgaa | i barely peeked at the stock firmware though |
| 03:03:34 | Quazgaa | im sure its crap like everything else ;) |
| 03:03:41 | z0de | it does not have id3 support |
| 03:03:51 | Quazgaa | what doesnt? |
| 03:03:55 | ze | z0de: at all? |
| 03:04:00 | ze | or just doesn't browse by id3? |
| 03:04:00 | z0de | id3 tags. the stock firmware |
| 03:04:21 | z0de | http://www.dapreview.net/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.201 |
| 03:04:36 | z0de | Does not support any kind of ID3-tag database. Literally every player on the market, in the US at least, has this as a basic feature. An iD3-tag database is an index of music loaded on the player, sorted into lists of Artist, Albums, Tracks, Genres, Composers, etc. and built from the user-definable bits tagged on to the end of each track (the iD3 tags). |
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| 03:05:25 | ze | z0de: meh |
| 03:05:32 | ze | z0de: that style's over-rated imo |
| 03:05:37 | Siimors | z0de: wtf? |
| 03:05:38 | ze | well |
| 03:05:44 | ze | i guess its neat to have |
| 03:05:46 | ze | but not vital |
| 03:06:02 | Siimors | i think it won't work in rockbox anyway |
| 03:06:08 | Siimors | so who cares |
| 03:06:27 | ze | i think i heard something about rockbox gaining such a thing but i dunno what the status of that is |
| 03:06:30 | z0de | i though rockbox does have id3 support |
| 03:06:35 | karim | #rockbox |
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| 03:06:44 | ze | i dunno much about modern rockbox though, i'm here for historic reasons :p |
| 03:07:01 | Quazgaa | heh |
| 03:07:25 | z0de | the Rockbox music database system. Using the information contained in |
| 03:07:26 | z0de | the tags (ID3v1, ID3v2, Vorbis Comments, Apev2, etc.) in your audio files, Rockbox |
| 03:07:26 | z0de | builds and maintains a database of the music files on your player and allows you to |
| 03:07:26 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK z0de |
| 03:07:26 | z0de | browse them by Artist, Album and Genre. |
| 03:07:37 | ze | right |
| 03:07:40 | z0de | so rockbox does support id3-tags |
| 03:07:47 | Siimors | seems so |
| 03:07:48 | z0de | thats out of the manual |
| 03:07:51 | z0de | sweet |
| 03:07:53 | ze | well |
| 03:07:59 | Siimors | so you should be fine with iAudio |
| 03:08:00 | ze | thats not 'supporting id3-tags' |
| 03:08:04 | ze | thats browsing by meta-data |
| 03:08:22 | z0de | using id3-tags? |
| 03:08:25 | ze | anything that can display the meta-data 'supports id3-tags' |
| 03:08:42 | ze | BROWSING by that meta-data is a different function altogether |
| 03:08:48 | z0de | ooo |
| 03:08:59 | ze | which is what you're describing and what you just pasted from the manual about |
| 03:09:14 | ze | i'm just being anal about your terminology :p |
| 03:09:29 | ze | but its dinner time, bbiab |
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| 03:09:35 | z0de | so stock cant browse by tags and rockbox can? |
| 03:11:39 | Siimors | buy an ipod, it can browse by tags in original firmware :) |
| 03:11:46 | Siimors | personaly I think the feature is overrated |
| 03:12:34 | z0de | i dont have a problem wih folders/files i have an organsied system but would like the option |
| 03:12:59 | z0de | for tags |
| 03:13:05 | karim | Siimors, yes, it is if your files are well sorted |
| 03:13:38 | Quazgaa | i like my x5, its nifty ;) |
| 03:14:08 | z0de | oh yea! |
| 03:14:19 | Quazgaa | i wantto get a fat hard drive and drop it in there |
| 03:14:36 | Quazgaa | would it be hard to find a large(r) capacity 1.8" drive and drop it in a device like the x5 ? |
| 03:14:53 | sharpe | wow. nothing like a 10+ year old laptop on the internet via a serial connection... |
| 03:16:49 | z0de | lol sharpe |
| 03:21:05 | Siimors | karim: well, I like my files sorted in folders rather than by tags |
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| 03:22:03 | Siimors | ipod just f***s up the directory structure and puts files with crazy names and in directories named F01 F02 etc |
| 03:22:08 | Siimors | it is just sick |
| 03:23:00 | z0de | mine go: F:\Music\Artist - year - album\01 - songname |
| 03:23:49 | karim | Siimors, I don't know ipods joys |
| 03:23:55 | karim | I have an iriver |
| 03:23:58 | Siimors | I like the video feature in ipod though |
| 03:24:01 | Siimors | its pretty cool |
| 03:24:13 | karim | it kills the batteries it seems |
| 03:24:23 | Siimors | that piece of crap plays 720x306 like charm |
| 03:24:29 | karim | but I would use it some times |
| 03:24:44 | karim | I wish iriver H300 could play decent videos |
| 03:24:55 | Siimors | can it play videos at all? |
| 03:25:27 | karim | yes |
| 03:25:39 | Siimors | like 15fps :) |
| 03:25:39 | Siimors | ? |
| 03:25:40 | karim | xvid 10fps 220x176 mp3 128kbit |
| 03:25:46 | Siimors | lol |
| 03:25:48 | Siimors | 10fps |
| 03:25:52 | karim | but the device is old |
| 03:25:57 | Siimors | a quick slideshow |
| 03:25:59 | karim | 10 fps is still watchable |
| 03:26:08 | karim | no you really feel it's a movie |
| 03:26:24 | karim | but 25fps the best |
| 03:26:36 | z0de | as a gamer i disagree :P |
| 03:26:52 | Siimors | karim : ipod can do 30 |
| 03:27:01 | karim | I think I finished doom 3 with 22 fps |
| 03:27:04 | Siimors | @ 720x306 2.5mbit, AAC 160kbps |
| 03:27:21 | karim | Irivers are older |
| 03:27:31 | karim | they are something like 4 years old |
| 03:27:44 | Siimors | karim: I have an Iriver IMP-450 |
| 03:27:45 | Siimors | ) |
| 03:27:48 | Siimors | now that is old :) |
| 03:28:00 | karim | I like my iriver |
| 03:28:09 | karim | video won't be bad to have |
| 03:28:23 | karim | but I like recording |
| 03:28:28 | karim | and ogg |
| 03:28:36 | Siimors | karim: doom3 was a really bad game |
| 03:28:40 | karim | now rockbox on ipod change things |
| 03:28:51 | karim | Siimors, no it was fun |
| 03:28:52 | belze | i dont see a real reason for videos on mp3-players |
| 03:29:02 | belze | the batteries dont last long enough anyway |
| 03:29:04 | Siimors | karim: yeah, but I don't use it, coz it has this ticking noise in the background |
| 03:29:16 | karim | belze, only because they are called mp3palyers ? |
| 03:29:24 | Siimors | until the find a solution for it, I'm staying away from it |
| 03:29:27 | belze | no, because they have a small screen |
| 03:29:30 | z0de | you need a 'media' player |
| 03:29:37 | karim | Siimors, what ticking ? |
| 03:29:46 | Siimors | belze: its fine if you hook it up to tv |
| 03:29:58 | karim | belze, I have a small dick and I use it indeed |
| 03:29:59 | belze | as "fine" as vcd |
| 03:30:10 | Siimors | belze: 720x306 is no vcd :) |
| 03:30:22 | belze | but that doesnt apply to mp3players |
| 03:30:35 | belze | maybe to a device like the pmp, which has a nice. big screen |
| 03:30:50 | karim | belze, when you watch video on a small screen you are actually doing that because you can't watch it on a bigger screen |
| 03:31:20 | karim | belze, in the train it can be usefull |
| 03:31:23 | belze | of course you could, on a mobild dvd-player for example |
| 03:31:32 | belze | costs around $200 |
| 03:31:33 | Siimors | belze: 720x306 is more like dvd, actually xvids are mostly lower resolution than 720x |
| 03:31:35 | karim | that's too big |
| 03:31:50 | karim | the image quality on dvd players is really bad |
| 03:32:01 | Siimors | and xvid is perfectly watchable on >30'' TV |
| 03:32:04 | karim | on the one I seen |
| 03:32:04 | belze | not worse than an mp3-player |
| 03:32:15 | karim | yes it is worse |
| 03:32:41 | karim | the LCD screen of H300 is really good quality. |
| 03:32:49 | karim | it's just small |
| 03:33:16 | karim | if the portable dvd had same screen quality than portable computers it would be nice |
| 03:33:22 | karim | but most of the time it's not |
| 03:34:04 | Siimors | I think its ok, if u can watch full length movie per charge on a mp3 player |
| 03:34:28 | karim | batteries are cheap now |
| 03:34:30 | Siimors | I never have so much free time to watch more , and theres still battery left for a few hours of music |
| 03:34:34 | belze | i still find the screen way too small |
| 03:34:43 | belze | the resolution is only half vcd |
| 03:34:54 | belze | which wont let you see much details anymore |
| 03:35:00 | Siimors | its ok |
| 03:35:07 | karim | details doesn't matter |
| 03:35:15 | karim | sound and story really do the difference |
| 03:35:27 | belze | ehm, then you should go for audio books :) |
| 03:35:28 | Siimors | more important is the fact that it can play really detailed files |
| 03:35:37 | karim | you will enjoy more a good film on a dap screen than a shit movie on a home cinema |
| 03:35:45 | Siimors | and u can see all the details if you watch on tv |
| 03:36:07 | belze | if i want to watch a film on a tv-set i use a dvd-player |
| 03:36:12 | belze | which everyone has today |
| 03:36:12 | karim | what kind of details do you need to see ? |
| 03:36:19 | karim | belze, I don't |
| 03:36:32 | Siimors | personaly i think ipod video feature would be useless if it could play only resolutions which are described in specifications |
| 03:36:33 | Quazgaa | depends if you are watching adult movies |
| 03:36:35 | Quazgaa | details are good then |
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| 04:41:05 | BHSPitLappy | any word on that korean rockbox gpl violation |
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| 04:43:21 | ForgottenMemory | Anyone here? |
| 04:43:29 | belze | yep |
| 04:43:42 | ForgottenMemory | How do i put pacman on rockbox |
| 04:46:00 | ForgottenMemory | hello? |
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| 04:46:14 | belze | pacman? no idea |
| 04:46:42 | ForgottenMemory | yea its called pacbox |
| 04:47:18 | ForgottenMemory | anyone? |
| 04:47:29 | ForgottenMemory | well is there anyone that knows how to put any other games on rockbox? |
| 04:47:38 | BHSPitLappy | you have to get the roms for it. |
| 04:47:40 | Quazgaa | ForgottenMemory: you need the pacman arcade roms |
| 04:47:59 | ForgottenMemory | yea ok i found that out but what about half life, counter strike, so on |
| 04:48:18 | Quazgaa | heh |
| 04:48:35 | ForgottenMemory | well since you cant help me with that how do i change the font color |
| 04:48:56 | Quazgaa | read the manual |
| 04:49:02 | Quazgaa | and/or navigate the menus |
| 04:49:29 | ForgottenMemory | can anyone tell me i hate searching lol |
| 04:49:46 | Quazgaa | look for background and foreground color in the menus |
| 04:49:53 | BHSPitLappy | it's under LCD settings |
| 04:49:57 | BHSPitLappy | under display |
| 04:50:08 | BHSPitLappy | download the manual |
| 04:50:11 | ForgottenMemory | im on it wut do i do |
| 04:50:18 | BHSPitLappy | that's what it's for |
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| 04:50:29 | BHSPitLappy | umm |
| 04:50:56 | BHSPitLappy | make the foreground yellow, and the background bright purple. |
| 04:51:18 | BHSPitLappy | then listen to reggae. |
| 04:51:24 | BHSPitLappy | is that the level of instruction you need? |
| 04:51:48 | ForgottenMemory | anyone here got aim? i need some sMOR thats why |
| 04:52:19 | BHSPitLappy | you mean s'mores. |
| 04:52:26 | ForgottenMemory | no |
| 04:52:33 | ForgottenMemory | MOR backwards |
| 04:53:28 | ForgottenMemory | ?? |
| 04:53:59 | BHSPitLappy | we're all good people here... we don't condone piracy |
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| 04:54:25 | BHSPitLappy | you should find a used pacman machine for sale, and get yourself a good rom dumper. |
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| 04:54:38 | ForgottenMemory | lol ok nvm then but wut about half life do i need roms for that? |
| 04:54:57 | BHSPitLappy | you can't play half-life; you can play rockdoom, with a half-life wad |
| 04:55:17 | ForgottenMemory | yea.... how do i do that i already got rockdoom |
| 04:55:37 | BHSPitLappy | find the wad. |
| 04:55:45 | BHSPitLappy | google. |
| 04:55:46 | BHSPitLappy | forums. |
| 04:55:47 | BHSPitLappy | etc. |
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| 04:55:54 | * | BHSPitLappy done here |
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| 05:01:55 | ForgottenMemory | is it illegal to post links to wad.? or just ROMS? |
| 05:03:09 | ForgottenMemory | anyone still here? |
| 05:03:14 | BigMac | I am |
| 05:03:16 | ForgottenMemory | i got a question about wads. |
| 05:03:21 | ForgottenMemory | like which ones work and which ones doesnt |
| 05:03:24 | BigMac | ok shoot |
| 05:03:28 | BigMac | for doom |
| 05:04:03 | ForgottenMemory | i no doom wrks |
| 05:04:14 | ForgottenMemory | does final fantasy ? and duke nukem work too? |
| 05:04:22 | BigMac | you need rockdoom.wad and doom1 or doom2.wad |
| 05:04:41 | BigMac | only certain ones do |
| 05:04:46 | ForgottenMemory | yea i got that but will final fantasy wrk? |
| 05:04:46 | BigMac | not sure which |
| 05:04:51 | ForgottenMemory | duke nukem? |
| 05:04:54 | BigMac | no idea |
| 05:05:01 | ForgottenMemory | i guess ima have to try |
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| 05:08:21 | ForgottenMemory | k problems with half life |
| 05:08:35 | ForgottenMemory | im pretty sure i have doom |
| 05:08:43 | ForgottenMemory | but how come i cant play half life |
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| 05:14:36 | JdGordon | why would being able to play doom mean your could play hl? |
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| 05:19:04 | ForgottenMemory | well it sed i needed a doom wad |
| 05:20:09 | midkay | .. but why would being able to play doom mean you could play half-life? and why doesn't "some of them don't work" explain this to you? |
| 05:23:34 | ForgottenMemory | i have no clue thats wut ive read |
| 05:24:10 | ForgottenMemory | well anyways is there a way to organize the rockbox so when i play music its like the iPod |
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| 05:39:23 | BigMac | is there anyway to adjust the scroll wheel sensitivity? |
| 05:40:11 | Soap | there is a patch to do just that. |
| 05:40:25 | Soap | but the patch hasn't worked since the "recent" button updates. |
| 05:41:14 | jhMikeS | Well...the build system is hanged again after one of my updates! Crap. |
| 05:41:45 | BigMac | aw |
| 05:42:52 | jhMikeS | >:| |
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| 07:06:55 | CpuWhiz | could anyone here answer a few questions for me? |
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| 07:07:16 | BHSPitLappy | maybe |
| 07:07:29 | CpuWhiz | k, just making sure someone was awake |
| 07:09:10 | CpuWhiz | ok, i was thinking of getting a mp3 player sometime between now and christmas, and whichever i get has to work right with unicode because i listen mostly to japanese music |
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| 07:10:04 | CpuWhiz | i also run linux... anyway, i take it if i loaded rockbox i would be able to play mp3/ogg/flac with UTF-8 tags w/o a problem? |
| 07:10:13 | Soap | yes |
| 07:11:12 | Soap | let me take that back, I have had no problem with Eastern European characters. |
| 07:11:20 | CpuWhiz | ok, because i was looking at various threads about like the iAudio X5+U3 and they only do like UTF-16 on ID3v2.4 on a stock firmware |
| 07:11:39 | CpuWhiz | or something stupid like that |
| 07:11:42 | Soap | that's not adaquate? |
| 07:12:06 | CpuWhiz | well, i just want to keep my music UTF-8 |
| 07:12:56 | CpuWhiz | ok, what about unicode file names? yes, no, maybe? |
| 07:15:45 | CpuWhiz | just read your thing about eastern characters, so that still means it does utf-8 and at most i might need some different font, right? |
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| 07:16:01 | Soap | I haven't done any Japanese, as I've transliterated (SP?) all of mine. |
| 07:16:48 | CpuWhiz | have you ever tried unicode file names? |
| 07:17:07 | CpuWhiz | or does it assume some ascii like charset for the filesystem? |
| 07:19:27 | CpuWhiz | i'll move on to a easy question then, between the iAudio X5 and the iPod Video, which would u use, why, do either have any big problems, etc. |
| 07:19:45 | Soap | ipod video for one reason. |
| 07:20:01 | Soap | I know in 5 years I be able to get parts and accessories for it. |
| 07:20:24 | Soap | I'm a poor man, and I keep tech a long time. |
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| 07:20:42 | Soap | I'm still running a sub 500 mhz machine here. |
| 07:20:44 | CpuWhiz | ok, looking at the themes, am i correct in assuming the ipod has a higher resolution screen? |
| 07:21:06 | Soap | yes, which is also its downfall, in it takes more CPU to update that big screen. |
| 07:21:38 | CpuWhiz | ok, is there like some max bitrate i should be concerned about? |
| 07:22:35 | CpuWhiz | like if i played a 320kbps vbr mp3 would it start chocking (not that i can hear a difference between 192 and up) |
| 07:24:12 | CpuWhiz | choking* |
| 07:25:58 | CpuWhiz | take the PJ Blue theme as an example, it has text on the left and the iTunes icon on the right, if the song name is too long, does it overlap the icon, scroll back and forth or something else |
| 07:26:03 | Soap | I don't know, all my rips are LAME APS or OGG Q6, and I don't have trouble with either. |
| 07:26:20 | Soap | link? |
| 07:26:34 | CpuWhiz | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=320x240x16 |
| 07:26:38 | CpuWhiz | like 2/3 down the page |
| 07:26:43 | CpuWhiz | on the left side |
| 07:27:35 | CpuWhiz | simply put, what does it do with song titles that don't fit on the screen |
| 07:28:41 | Soap | scroll. |
| 07:29:20 | CpuWhiz | good |
| 07:30:08 | CpuWhiz | if i went crazy and wanted to use the original firmware, it's fairly easy to switch back on the ipod, right? |
| 07:30:36 | Soap | very |
| 07:30:56 | CpuWhiz | ok, i think i covered just about everthing |
| 07:30:58 | Soap | FWIW, the ipod has reduced runtime with rockbox compared to stock apple firmware. |
| 07:31:08 | CpuWhiz | i read that |
| 07:31:19 | Soap | now talk to an iaudio x5 fan, and get the balance. |
| 07:31:53 | CpuWhiz | the lowest number on the chart was like 5 hours or so and i don't plan to really use it longer then that |
| 07:31:58 | CpuWhiz | in a go that is |
| 07:32:26 | Soap | I get ~10 on my 5g 60 gigger. |
| 07:32:39 | Soap | I'm currently doing a set of comprehensive runtime tests. |
| 07:32:58 | Soap | Ogg vs MP3 with rockbox vs mp3 on stock. |
| 07:33:11 | CpuWhiz | isn't the ipod smaller (and maybe lighter) then the X5? |
| 07:33:29 | Soap | that I can't speak to, but those dimensions should be all over the intraweb |
| 07:34:56 | CpuWhiz | 4.08 X 2.39 X 0.72 (X5L) vs. 2.4 x 4.1 x .43 inches (ipod video) |
| 07:36:46 | CpuWhiz | i really hate apple and their stupid iTunes, but the iPod does look sexier |
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| 07:37:35 | CpuWhiz | does the theme only show up for that one screen? |
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| 07:41:10 | Soap | that one screen is likely 90% of what you'll see. |
| 07:41:38 | CpuWhiz | ok, and the rest is the black and white menus i see in the manual... |
| 07:41:46 | Soap | themes also can set a background photo for the file browser and menu tree |
| 07:41:54 | Soap | as well as control the font. |
| 07:42:42 | CpuWhiz | ok, about fonts, can u just drop a ttf in a specific folder, special format, what |
| 07:43:54 | Soap | there is a conversion utility out there. |
| 07:44:11 | Soap | TTFs are not directly supported. |
| 07:44:17 | CpuWhiz | ok, could u maybe link me? |
| 07:44:59 | CpuWhiz | file transfer, do i have to do some weird reboot on the ipod, will it work like a thumb drive in linux? |
| 07:46:33 | Soap | currently with Rockbox, an iPod reboots into Apple's "emergency disk mode" when attached via USB. This lets you treat it as any other UMS device. Hopefully in the future rockbox will have a USB mode of its own. |
| 07:46:56 | Soap | So yes in short to both questions. |
| 07:47:30 | CpuWhiz | ok, so is this a pain to do? |
| 07:48:37 | Soap | It is automatic. When you plug into a USB cable it reboots into disk mode. When you unplug the cable it reboots into RockBox. |
| 07:48:59 | CpuWhiz | so it's just a extra second or two as it reboots then |
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| 07:50:04 | Soap | correct |
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| 07:52:28 | FM | AAnyone here? |
| 07:53:09 | Soap | yes |
| 07:53:30 | FM | How do i get twilight wad on rockbox |
| 07:53:41 | FM | i put it in the folder addons but nothing happens |
| 07:53:43 | FM | how do i use it |
| 07:54:16 | FM | ??? |
| 07:54:20 | Soap | how much of the manual regarding doom did you read? |
| 07:54:41 | FM | well all i know is i can run doom |
| 07:54:47 | FM | i can play it |
| 07:54:54 | FM | but i wanna play the other games too |
| 07:56:28 | BigMac | manual |
| 07:56:40 | BigMac | S0ap:got a second |
| 07:56:45 | BigMac | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinInstallWithScreenShots#Step_1_Download_the_cygwin_insta |
| 07:57:01 | BigMac | I'm getting stuck on the second part 2 |
| 07:57:23 | BigMac | were you have to add http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin/ |
| 07:57:38 | BigMac | i add it and get downloads.rockbox.org |
| 07:57:46 | BigMac | which isn't that wierd |
| 07:58:07 | BigMac | but I can't find some of the items I have to check in devel |
| 07:58:44 | BigMac | woops |
| 07:58:49 | BigMac | they were out of order |
| 07:58:51 | BigMac | my bad |
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| 07:59:45 | FM | so??? |
| 07:59:53 | FM | how do i run it |
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| 08:00:03 | FM | i tried and all it does is boot me back to plugins menu |
| 08:00:20 | Soap | yea, not all of them are in alphabetical order, some are hiding at the bottom. |
| 08:00:36 | Soap | Did you read the manual and forum posts on Doom? |
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| 08:00:45 | FM | wut do u mean hiding |
| 08:02:13 | BigMac | FM:that was pertaining to me not you |
| 08:02:49 | FM | well i read the manual and posts i understood and did everything it said |
| 08:03:12 | FM | like i said when i try to run doom with twilight wad. doesnt work. tried with other wads doesnt work either |
| 08:03:18 | FM | but when i run regular doom it works |
| 08:04:21 | FM | ??? |
| 08:04:38 | Soap | I can't speak to any specific wads, but not all are compatible. |
| 08:05:07 | FM | yea but i read on forums that twilight wrks so i tried that but it didnt |
| 08:07:59 | BigMac | FM:do you have doom 2? |
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| 08:08:06 | BigMac | aww |
| 08:08:12 | BigMac | i figured out the porblem too |
| 08:08:43 | BigMac | Soap:do you remember which tutorial on compiling is the easiest |
| 08:08:48 | BigMac | not sure which one |
| 08:12:57 | JdGordon | do any players have spdif and fmradio? |
| 08:17:39 | aliask | JdGordon: H100? |
| 08:17:54 | BigMac | what is the cvs password guys? |
| 08:18:03 | aliask | Blank |
| 08:18:06 | aliask | Just press enter |
| 08:18:08 | JdGordon | aliask: ta, i thought of that 1 about 1 sec after pressing enter :p |
| 08:18:20 | BigMac | i did |
| 08:18:38 | aliask | BigMac: Are you sure you've logged in as anon? |
| 08:18:44 | BigMac | yes |
| 08:18:51 | JdGordon | anonymouse |
| 08:19:22 | BigMac | failed to open home/me/.cvspass for reading: No such file or directory |
| 08:19:27 | BigMac | anonymous |
| 08:19:37 | BigMac | that is how you spell it I believe |
| 08:19:41 | aliask | type this in "touch ~/.cvspass" |
| 08:19:44 | aliask | And run again |
| 08:20:25 | BigMac | when prompted for pass |
| 08:20:30 | aliask | No |
| 08:20:31 | BigMac | or just as a command |
| 08:20:32 | aliask | Just in the promp |
| 08:20:36 | BigMac | w/o quotes? |
| 08:20:39 | aliask | prompt even |
| 08:20:41 | aliask | Yes |
| 08:21:22 | aliask | It's strange that CVS doesn't just create the file... |
| 08:21:26 | BigMac | ok I think it worked that time |
| 08:23:02 | BigMac | k how do I know were it dl'd the3 source to in cygwin |
| 08:23:19 | aliask | It should just put it in the directory you were in. |
| 08:25:39 | BigMac | I have no idea were i am |
| 08:25:46 | BigMac | haven't cd'd anywere yet |
| 08:25:51 | aliask | "pwd" |
| 08:27:13 | aliask | (that's the command you type to find out where you are by the way) |
| 08:30:58 | aliask | JdGordon: Whatcha working on today? |
| 08:31:10 | JdGordon | still settings rework |
| 08:31:20 | JdGordon | and im trying to figure out how to add dynamic menus to it |
| 08:31:48 | * | JdGordon is going to need a small army soon to help out |
| 08:33:18 | BigMac | http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=68416 |
| 08:34:07 | BigMac | what part would I have to change to make it so if I hold the select button on the ipod video, it boots into apple os |
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| 08:38:49 | BigMac | when I cd I want to be in the rockbox-devel folder right? |
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| 08:56:13 | aliask | BigMac: How does that bootloader work? To load linux do you just press play at a menu, or hold it down while it boots? |
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| 08:59:31 | BigMac | you hold down menua while it boots up |
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| 09:01:23 | Slasheri | http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/scheduler4.patch - scheduler v4 with significant bug fixes |
| 09:01:42 | Slasheri | and more comments :) |
| 09:01:48 | aliask | BigMac: http://pastebin.ca/165851 |
| 09:02:18 | aliask | BigMac: Stick that above the first if statement - I don't know the bootloader system, so use it at your own risk. |
| 09:07:45 | aliask | Slasheri: I think that patch was made against an old cvs. There's a whole lot of unneeded stuff in there |
| 09:08:07 | Slasheri | aliask: hmm.. really? |
| 09:08:15 | Slasheri | i updated cvs just before created the patch |
| 09:08:25 | aliask | −−- apps/plugin.c16 Aug 2006 04:05:17 -00001.182 |
| 09:08:45 | Slasheri | and i have resorted the plugin api |
| 09:08:57 | Slasheri | that's why it has so many changes |
| 09:09:37 | BigMac | how do i fix something if the patching fails? |
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| 09:09:52 | aliask | Slasheri: Ah yes, now I see. Sorry. |
| 09:10:04 | aliask | BigMac: Take a look in the .rej file that was created |
| 09:10:06 | Slasheri | BigMac: make sure you start with a clean cvs without previosly applied patches |
| 09:10:24 | BigMac | malformed patch at line 59 |
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| 09:11:35 | BigMac | does it matter If hunks fail? |
| 09:11:40 | aliask | Yes. |
| 09:11:50 | BigMac | how do I fix that? |
| 09:11:51 | aliask | Malformed patch means that the patch is broken. |
| 09:12:02 | BigMac | doom scrollpatch? |
| 09:13:09 | BigMac | what about failed hunks? |
| 09:13:15 | BigMac | what do i do about them> |
| 09:13:59 | aliask | A file will be created that ends with .rej - if you read it you can see what didn't get patched right. |
| 09:14:13 | BigMac | wtf |
| 09:14:23 | BigMac | why are all my patches failing now |
| 09:14:35 | BigMac | they keep failing in hunks |
| 09:14:44 | aliask | 1) Are you applying it to clean source? |
| 09:14:59 | BigMac | and the rej just had 2 numbers |
| 09:15:07 | BigMac | yes it started as a clean source |
| 09:15:24 | aliask | Well, if you apply two patches, they may interfere with eachother |
| 09:16:09 | BigMac | i'm just applying the patches from jbuild |
| 09:16:17 | BigMac | they have to work with each other |
| 09:16:38 | aliask | What's jbuild? |
| 09:16:48 | BigMac | ipod build |
| 09:16:54 | BigMac | it has nice patches |
| 09:17:02 | BigMac | but it is missing a few i nedd |
| 09:17:05 | BigMac | need |
| 09:17:17 | BigMac | is there anyway i can start fresh |
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| 09:17:24 | aliask | Get a new cvs? |
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| 09:17:44 | aliask | Perhaps the author of jbuild made alterations to the patches to get them to work with eachother? |
| 09:17:48 | BigMac | will it overwrite what i have |
| 09:17:58 | BigMac | i'm using his patches |
| 09:19:56 | BigMac | how do i know if it is updating the source |
| 09:20:45 | aliask | What do you mean, updating the source? |
| 09:21:03 | aliask | Getting clean CVS? Applying a patch? |
| 09:21:03 | BigMac | nvm |
| 09:21:08 | aliask | k |
| 09:21:13 | BigMac | getting a clean cvs |
| 09:21:55 | BigMac | so if a hunk fails that mean i can't use the build? |
| 09:23:38 | BigMac | how do i start off with a clean source? |
| 09:24:47 | BigMac | hello... |
| 09:27:20 | aliask | If a hunk fails, the source wasn't modified for that part. |
| 09:27:31 | aliask | So if all you're getting is failed hunks, then nothing in the source has changed. |
| 09:28:08 | BigMac | ok |
| 09:28:15 | BigMac | and i get a clean source by? |
| 09:29:10 | aliask | A clean source just means an unmodified one. |
| 09:29:35 | aliask | So you can get it from CVS, or if there's a patch applied, you can make it clean by reverse applying the patch. |
| 09:29:47 | BigMac | how do i do that |
| 09:29:55 | aliask | Reverse a patch? |
| 09:30:01 | BigMac | either |
| 09:30:07 | BigMac | i want to start over |
| 09:30:13 | aliask | ....... |
| 09:30:19 | aliask | You KNOW how to get CVS. |
| 09:30:42 | BigMac | yah but it gives me errors |
| 09:31:00 | aliask | What errors? |
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| 09:32:52 | BigMac | don't rmember anymore i exited out |
| 09:35:41 | BigMac | akjldafshjlkfdsakhj |
| 09:35:46 | BigMac | I got a new source |
| 09:35:55 | BigMac | by doing the first step over |
| 09:36:15 | BigMac | and its saying I already applied this patch before |
| 09:36:21 | BigMac | and I have to keep pressing n |
| 09:36:32 | BigMac | and it keeps saying hunks ignored |
| 09:37:02 | aliask | Thats because you're note applying the patch to clean source. |
| 09:37:12 | aliask | The patch is already applied. |
| 09:37:21 | BigMac | I downloaded the new source |
| 09:37:26 | aliask | It's asking you if you want to reverse the patch. |
| 09:37:36 | BigMac | yah |
| 09:38:02 | BigMac | so what do i do |
| 09:38:19 | aliask | Well, if you want, you could say yes to all the prompts, and it would reverse the patch. |
| 09:38:52 | aliask | Or you could delete the rockbox-devel directory and re-get it, because it sounds like it didn't go correctly last time. |
| 09:42:11 | Rudy4Pez | Hey, I need a program off of SourceForge, can somebody do me a favor and compile it for me? |
| 09:44:12 | BigMac | fontforge? |
| 09:44:28 | Rudy4Pez | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=61413&package_id=57820&release_id=216417 |
| 09:47:08 | Rudy4Pez | I'm looking at it correctly, right? It need to be compiled? |
| 09:47:13 | Rudy4Pez | *needs |
| 09:48:48 | Rudy4Pez | http://www.aimsniff.com/downloads.html |
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| 10:05:10 | webguest666 | Badger, tomas, the build table has stalled |
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| 10:06:49 | Jazz00006 | how would u (in a plugin) join a string with another string? (ya im still learning the rockbox syntax) |
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| 10:07:58 | Quazgaa | where is the documentation for doom on rockbox, it appears to be absent from the x5 manual |
| 10:09:02 | Bagder | Jazz00006: using ordinary C methods |
| 10:09:23 | Bagder | Quazgaa: check the wiki |
| 10:09:49 | Jazz00006 | cheers |
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| 10:11:25 | Quazgaa | ah found it thanks |
| 10:12:43 | Slasheri | Bagder: hi, btw the new scheduler improved overall performance by about 2% (measured by watching the boost ratio while playing a q8 vorbis) |
| 10:17:54 | webguest29 | Are multiple threads allowed to wait on same queue? |
| 10:19:41 | Slasheri | no, that should never happen (i.e., multiple threads calling queue_wait(&same_queue)) |
| 10:19:53 | Slasheri | but with mutexes that is not problem |
| 10:20:09 | webguest29 | So, it's not allowed? |
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| 10:20:30 | Slasheri | if more than two mutexes tries to lock at the same time, one of them remains active until there is just one more locked mutex |
| 10:20:33 | Slasheri | no |
| 10:21:05 | Slasheri | that can be made allowed by a very simple change but i don't think that situation should ever happen |
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| 10:21:16 | Bagder | Slasheri: I'm sure you got it to improve performance, but I'm worried that you introduce complexity and add non-determinism into the scheduler |
| 10:21:39 | Slasheri | Bagder: please check the v4 of the patch and especially kernel.c :) |
| 10:21:49 | Slasheri | it should be even more simple now ;) |
| 10:21:55 | Bagder | and where is that? |
| 10:22:11 | Slasheri | for example queue waiting and mutex locking has been simplified |
| 10:22:20 | Slasheri | and all wake_up_thread calls removed |
| 10:22:28 | Slasheri | there very a huge bunch of them |
| 10:22:33 | Slasheri | *were |
| 10:23:02 | Slasheri | Bagder: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/scheduler4.patch |
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| 10:23:47 | Slasheri | however, iram usage issue is still unsolved for archos but in otherway it should work quite well now |
| 10:25:46 | webguest29 | Isn't it more customary to have e.g. a waiter list in the mutex itself than just one global 'blocked' list? |
| 10:26:31 | Slasheri | webguest29: hmm, in fact that sounds like a good idea! |
| 10:27:34 | Slasheri | in fact that blocked list is unnecessary if we just store the thread pointer to the mutex / queue itself.. (as we do already) |
| 10:27:40 | Slasheri | so that can be removed |
| 10:29:39 | webguest29 | Yes, but you could also make it a proper list, which would allow you to get rid of the one tick sleep you have e.g. in mutex_lock(), right? |
| 10:30:42 | Slasheri | webguest29: yes, that's true. i have thinked it a long time to find a way to store multiple tasks in one mutex but never got the idea it was that simple |
| 10:30:50 | Slasheri | i will definately change that, thanks :) |
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| 10:33:48 | webguest29 | If priorities are not used, where in the running list do you put a newly woken up thread? |
| 10:34:33 | webguest29 | I think it should be inserted last. |
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| 10:35:04 | webguest29 | I.e. every already running thread should be run first. |
| 10:35:19 | JdGordon | if its jusy woken up shouldnt be inserted next? i.e wouldnt it have something to do if it was woken? |
| 10:36:03 | webguest29 | If you do this two threads playing ping-pong can monopolize the CPU, right? |
| 10:38:43 | Slasheri | hmm, but threads will not sleep/wakeup at every task switch |
| 10:39:15 | Slasheri | there can be several task switches until sleeping thread is woken up |
| 10:40:48 | perplexity | Interesting.. while testing a build server, if you run acbuild.pl remotely with no arguments it deletes the entire ~/rbclient directory ! :( |
| 10:41:27 | webguest29 | Slasheri: Yes, there can. But what if there's not? |
| 10:42:20 | webguest29 | That's what I meant woth ping-pong. The threads constantly waking up each other. |
| 10:42:28 | webguest29 | with even |
| 10:42:32 | Bagder | perpleXa: it is supposed to be given a dir to which it cds into |
| 10:42:41 | Bagder | perplexity even |
| 10:42:47 | Slasheri | hmm.. i am not sure if that can really happen |
| 10:42:51 | perplexity | indeed Bagder, I discovered that the hard way :) |
| 10:43:07 | Bagder | ssh -i privkey $ssh_port -o ConnectTimeout=15 $server "./acbuild.pl \\"$date\\" \\"$buildline\\ |
| 10:43:19 | perplexity | Just manually testing builds of *every* target remotely to find out what is goin gon.. |
| 10:43:20 | Bagder | (from the master script) |
| 10:44:36 | webguest29 | Slasheri: Ok, you seem to be designing the kernel a bit differently that I am used to. Usually we try to take care of anything that someone could try to do no matter how unlikely it might be :-) |
| 10:45:06 | perpleXa | huh? :P |
| 10:45:14 | Bagder | I think taking care of existing kernel knowledge and experience is a good thing |
| 10:45:46 | Bagder | perpleXa: just me messing with my tab completion, go back to sleep ;-) |
| 10:45:58 | perpleXa | okay :) |
| 10:46:02 | perpleXa | good luck |
| 10:46:17 | markun | webguest29: is there a specific kernel you are involved with? |
| 10:46:19 | webguest29 | It's a bit like the multiple threads waiting on same queue. It should either be documented that you are not allowed to do it or it should work. |
| 10:46:34 | * | Bagder agrees with webguest29 |
| 10:46:57 | webguest29 | markun: Mostly a proprietary RT OS we use at work. I kind of maintain it. |
| 10:49:13 | Slasheri | webguest29: true, but how should it work if more than one thread listens to a queue? Should only one of the threads get the queue events or both get them? At least original kernel delivered events only one thread and with the new kernel that situation is not allowed to happen |
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| 10:50:40 | webguest29 | I would say only one of them gets the event. But I don't really care. If everybody agrees that it is not supported, it's ok. I just noticed that your code does not support it. |
| 10:54:40 | webguest29 | Oh, and I mean one thread would get some specific event. Different events could go to different waiters. |
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| 11:02:37 | JdGordon | why is the P2ID macro giving me "error: invalid operands to binary -" ?? |
| 11:04:53 | JdGordon | woops.. not P2ID, P2STR |
| 11:06:21 | JdGordon | no, it is P2ID |
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| 11:16:54 | nls | Is doom working on all swcodec targets now? |
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| 11:22:13 | Quazgaa | is support for sound/multiplexed mpegs in the works for mpegplayer? |
| 11:22:47 | linuxstb | Of course. |
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| 11:23:34 | Quazgaa | groovy |
| 11:24:28 | linuxstb | nls: Looking at the source it looks like Doom is compiled for every Colour target (apart from the Gigabeat) and all 2bpp greyscale targets. So yes, all swcodec targets apart from the gigabeat. |
| 11:24:45 | Quazgaa | should buy the mplayer devs some nice portable players and encourage them to help on that ;p |
| 11:25:33 | nls | linuxstb, ok thanks :) |
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| 11:46:44 | Quazgaa | hmm |
| 11:46:51 | Quazgaa | i managed to crash doom |
| 11:46:56 | nls | :-) |
| 11:47:03 | Quazgaa | heh |
| 11:47:29 | Quazgaa | thatd be cool if it played the midis ;) |
| 11:47:40 | nls | indeed. |
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| 11:56:24 | JdGordon | do any taregts other than archos save settings to non-volatile ram? |
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| 12:14:09 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Not currently afaik. |
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| 12:15:08 | * | JdGordon wonders why he is being asked if my settings rework allows for it then.. |
| 12:17:38 | linuxstb | I assume because we want Rockbox to do it on other targets. |
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| 12:18:10 | Lear | And isn't there work being done towards that on Iriver platforms? |
| 12:18:22 | linuxstb | Yes - there's an eeprom driver now. |
| 12:18:37 | JdGordon | hmm.. is that the dirvers/eeprom*.h files? |
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| 12:33:33 | maddog011 | hey barry welcome |
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| 12:37:33 | lorijho | hi guys |
| 12:43:42 | * | JdGordon has got 99 h300 settings exporting to config.c=fg :D |
| 12:44:01 | JdGordon | only about 50 more :) |
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| 12:51:48 | preglow | anyone here tried the 5g hw eq? |
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| 12:59:20 | webguest29 | Should queue_post() wake up any waiters on the queue? |
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| 13:03:04 | iwantanimac | Hi all, just wondering if anyone could give me write access to the Wiki? My wiki Name is GeoffStokes. |
| 13:08:18 | Quazgaa | so put an m2v on my X5 and when i try to play it it says "buffering..." and sits there for a little bit then drops back out to the file navigator or whatever |
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| 13:12:19 | JdGordon | short is 16bits on all our targets correct? |
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| 13:14:48 | barrywardell | iwantanimac: done (i think) |
| 13:15:12 | iwantanimac | thanks barry! |
| 13:15:18 | barrywardell | JdGordan: it is on ARM targets anyway |
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| 13:16:51 | JdGordon | does gcc start new struct items every 4 bytes? i ask because will adding an extra 2 to a char[] actually add 4 becuase of gcc? |
| 13:18:03 | barrywardell | JdGordon: I'm having a button action problem. can you have a look? |
| 13:18:19 | JdGordon | sure |
| 13:18:40 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5940 |
| 13:18:50 | barrywardell | i'm revising the H10 keymaps. |
| 13:19:03 | barrywardell | Everything works fine except some of the debug screens |
| 13:19:35 | barrywardell | none of the keys work in them. |
| 13:19:37 | Lear | jdgordon: depends on what follows and the alignment rules of the target. |
| 13:19:42 | JdGordon | debug screen uses the settings context which may stuff it up |
| 13:19:58 | JdGordon | Lear: its a simple struct with only the short and then char[] |
| 13:21:05 | Lear | jdgordon: then a sizeof should increase by 2, I think. |
| 13:21:39 | JdGordon | so it will pad the short to 4 bytes? |
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| 13:22:33 | Lear | Huh? What do you mean? Example please. :) |
| 13:22:59 | JdGordon | barrywardell: ye, debug uses context_settings, so u need std_cancel, std_ok, std_next, _std_prev, and _settings_[inc/dec] |
| 13:23:12 | Quazgaa | what mplayer line would be good to encode a dvd track to something rockbox will play |
| 13:23:20 | barrywardell | JdGordon: yes, I noticed that. Normally BUTTON_LEFT would be ACTION_STD_CANCEL, but settings changes BUTTON_LEFT to be ACTION_STD_PREV. |
| 13:23:39 | Quazgaa | this is what i tried that doesnt seem to work: mencoder dvd://3 -nosound -vf scale -zoom -xy 160 -o psf-3.m2v -ovc lavc -mpegopts format=mpeg2:vframerate=15 |
| 13:23:48 | JdGordon | the debug actins all need work.. they didnt really "fit" well :p |
| 13:24:03 | barrywardell | i tried making BUTTON_POWER be ACTION_STD_CANCEL. it works if I put it in the standard context, but not if i put it in the settings context |
| 13:24:21 | Quazgaa | ah n/m i see theres an example on the wiki |
| 13:24:28 | linuxstb | Quazgaa: I'm guessing that generates a .avi file - which you've just named "psf-3.m2v" |
| 13:24:41 | linuxstb | Are you running Linux? |
| 13:25:06 | linuxstb | If you type "file psf-3.m2v", that should tell you the real filetype of the file. |
| 13:25:07 | JdGordon | Lear: struct {short s, char c[32]}, so does gcc compile it to the short being 4 bytes then the 32 byte chars so 36bytes, or does it make it 2bytes and 32bytes for 34? |
| 13:26:58 | Lear | jdgordon: I'd think that would be 34, since bytes normally are byte-aligned. Might not be true for all targets though. |
| 13:27:05 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Why do you care? |
| 13:28:13 | JdGordon | linuxstb: for the sake of 2 bytes * how ever many array items there will be... |
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| 13:33:05 | barrywardell | JdGordon: any thoughts on why putting my button in the standard context but not in the setting context works? |
| 13:34:33 | JdGordon | barrywardell: umm.. can u upload the actual keymap.c for me please? i cant tell from just the patch |
| 13:34:50 | JdGordon | .. it shouldnt make a difference... |
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| 13:35:44 | barrywardell | JdGordon: http://pastebin.ca/165954 |
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| 13:38:05 | JdGordon | barrywardell: hmm... odd.... sorry cant help you there |
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| 13:39:46 | barrywardell | JdGordon: i just spotted something. if i use: { ACTION_STD_CANCEL, BUTTON_LEFT, BUTTON_NONE }, for the standard context it works |
| 13:40:48 | JdGordon | thats not what u actually want tho? is it? |
| 13:41:44 | JdGordon | hang on.. whats the problem? you want to use left for cancel? |
| 13:42:28 | Quazgaa | linuxstb: you know if there is a way to set the framerate for lavc? |
| 13:42:43 | barrywardell | left for cancel, long left for quickscreen |
| 13:43:00 | barrywardell | my point is that removing the BUTTON_REL fixes the debug menu problem |
| 13:43:55 | linuxstb | Quazgaa: I think you want -ofps. Are you encoding from PAL or NTSC? |
| 13:44:26 | JdGordon | barrywardell: ok, if its fixed then cool... |
| 13:44:36 | * | JdGordon tihnks debug screens need their own contexts... |
| 13:45:06 | barrywardell | the only problem is now, long left triggers both cancel and quickscreen |
| 13:45:56 | Quazgaa | linuxstb: that seems to be working |
| 13:46:28 | Quazgaa | whichever one is used inthe US ;p |
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| 14:26:16 | barrywardell | looks like there is a problem with the build system |
| 14:30:41 | JdGordon | fire whoever coded it! |
| 14:31:54 | perplexity | heh, and it's not my fault this time.. <wipes sweat from brow> |
| 14:33:15 | JdGordon | ping Bagder |
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| 14:38:02 | JdGordon | yikes... ive been asked to convert a c prgram to psuedo code so it can eventually be converted to c... cept it was origionally COBOL... the file is horrible! |
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| 14:41:12 | Soap | do you still have the original COBOL? |
| 14:41:41 | JdGordon | i dont, and it wouldnt make it any easier for me.. |
| 14:42:09 | Soap | ahh, but it is one of the two languages I am actually good at. |
| 14:42:18 | JdGordon | ha |
| 14:43:17 | Soap | I sit here trying to learn C and Rockbox by playing-along-at-home, then a chance shows up...and is dashed. |
| 14:44:22 | JdGordon | hehe, sorry mate |
| 14:45:46 | JdGordon | crazy cde has $ in half the function and variable names? |
| 14:45:48 | JdGordon | code* |
| 14:46:16 | JdGordon | and it uses an unhealthy amount of global variables :p |
| 14:50:25 | Arathis | barrywardell: tried the new keymaps. they work fine so far. much more intuitiv |
| 14:50:32 | barrywardell | great |
| 14:50:37 | barrywardell | that was the goal :) |
| 14:51:00 | barrywardell | let me know if you have any comments/suggestions |
| 14:51:31 | Arathis | but I miss a buton to jump back directly to the "main" of a menu as in the iriver fw where you can hold left and get back to the main screen. |
| 14:52:05 | Arathis | and btw I can't find the LCD on/off option. |
| 14:52:32 | Arathis | and the options for "hold" don't seem to work either |
| 14:52:38 | Arathis | or I misunderstand them |
| 14:52:58 | Arathis | also the invert option isn't there for me |
| 14:53:44 | Arathis | and some things I don't know you are responsable for or can fix them:0 |
| 14:53:53 | Arathis | -0 |
| 14:54:31 | barrywardell | i agree a button to jump back would be nice |
| 14:54:47 | Arathis | when pressing play in the text editor to accept what you made there it affects playback. it pauses playback in fact. |
| 14:55:31 | barrywardell | ah, ok. plugin keymaps aren't donne yet! |
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| 14:55:50 | Arathis | also the highlightcolor for the text editor sho8ld be adjustable because for my bg color it's more like eye cancer now |
| 14:56:06 | barrywardell | the lcd on/off is part of backlight |
| 14:56:47 | barrywardell | invert is suported by the lcd driver but there isn't an option to set it yet |
| 14:57:10 | Arathis | and I noticed that noting that writes files askes if to overwrite an existing file |
| 14:58:13 | Arathis | and my bg color was green when I first started the player after copying the new .rockbox folder over there |
| 14:58:15 | barrywardell | is the "hold" problem you are referring to the backlight on hold setting? |
| 14:58:23 | Arathis | yes |
| 14:58:43 | Arathis | btw: is there a bugtracker for rockbox? |
| 14:58:47 | barrywardell | Arathis: reset your settings. |
| 14:58:54 | Arathis | i did ;) |
| 14:58:58 | Arathis | just wanted to name it |
| 14:58:58 | barrywardell | yes: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker |
| 14:59:40 | Arathis | ah, great. cause i wanted some information about the WPS bg bug (that backgrounds aren't deleted automaticaly |
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| 15:00:27 | barrywardell | i'll fix the hold problem now... forgot it existed! |
| 15:00:27 | Arathis | barrywardell: where exactly should the lcd on/off option be? |
| 15:00:53 | barrywardell | the lcd turns on/off automatically when the backlight turns on/off |
| 15:00:55 | Arathis | on lcd options > backlight i can only adjust the shotdown time for the backlight |
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| 15:01:15 | Arathis | okay,. that works than |
| 15:01:51 | webguest54 | bagder, the build table has stalled again |
| 15:02:04 | barrywardell | it's obviously hard to see that it works because the backlight is off, but i've checked it and it definitely does |
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| 15:02:59 | Arathis | holding it against the light can do so. an experiance i gathered with the backlight bug in the iriver firmware ;) |
| 15:03:44 | barrywardell | yes, that's how I tested that it works |
| 15:05:59 | Arathis | noticed a little bug in RB right away: when i access the playlist catalog through the context menu my playlists aren't listed. only when i go through the menu (playlist options > playlist catalog) they show up. |
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| 15:11:07 | Arathis | am i right that there isn't any external program to generate tagcache so far? |
| 15:11:11 | daurn|afk | hi all |
| 15:11:18 | daurn|afk | ah |
| 15:11:19 | daurn|afk | no |
| 15:11:26 | daurn|afk | wrong channel/time |
| 15:15:18 | Lear | jdgordon: In cobol, there are no local variables. Remember, this is an old language. :) |
| 15:15:22 | barrywardell | Arathis: i think there was mention of one before |
| 15:15:51 | JdGordon | ah |
| 15:19:07 | linuxstb | Arathis: The songdb.pl script in the tools/ directory in the Rockbox source might work. I think it only supports mp3 and ogg vorbis though. |
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| 15:19:42 | Arathis | thats enough for me. thanks linuxstb |
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| 15:26:26 | * | jhMikeS busted the build system again...seems to have a penchant for that. |
| 15:27:15 | barrywardell | Arathis, the hold thing is fixed in cvs |
| 15:27:28 | Arathis | cool |
| 15:27:33 | jhMikeS | what's the hold thing? |
| 15:27:52 | Arathis | does the build system work again or do i need to download cvs? |
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| 15:28:23 | jhMikeS | It's back up now but CVS isn't affected |
| 15:28:39 | Soap | How do I leave comments in the Wiki? I don't want to clutter the page with details people probably don't want to see, but I don't want to loose said details. |
| 15:28:51 | Soap | just #Comment? |
| 15:29:03 | Soap | *lose |
| 15:29:10 | Arathis | barrywardell: i think the new keymaps could be uploaded too. or is the dev menu bug still existing or you too ansatisfied with the keymaps till now? |
| 15:29:22 | barrywardell | jhMikeS: backlight on hold wasn't working on h10 |
| 15:29:51 | barrywardell | Arathis: they are there already! |
| 15:30:16 | jhMikeS | What was wrong? It is a feature I added...curious as to why. |
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| 15:32:09 | barrywardell | it just wasn't enabled (it was commented out). |
| 15:32:15 | jhMikeS | ah |
| 15:32:44 | jhMikeS | I added that to the remote backlight too so others should test that on non-x5 |
| 15:32:58 | dfsgdfsg | hi, i wonder if my ipod nano is compatible with rockbox , on the website it says rockbox is compatible with ipod nano generation 1 and 2 but how can i know what generation my ipod is ? |
| 15:33:28 | z0de | anyone here with an iAudio X5(L) and rockbox? |
| 15:33:30 | jhMikeS | One observation: When you are in menus and you turn a hold switch on, the lock icon isn't being updated |
| 15:33:46 | jhMikeS | .........:-)........... |
| 15:33:57 | Quazgaa | z0de: yeah i still have my x5, havent thrown it away since last night ;p |
| 15:34:28 | Quazgaa | quite a sweet little machine i'd say |
| 15:34:32 | * | jhMikeS thinks we should all put our x5's in a pile and burn them! |
| 15:34:39 | z0de | lol, i was hoping for someone whos had one a bit longer to see if they had any problems |
| 15:34:46 | Soap | dfsgdfsg - RockBox works with all Nanos out there currently. |
| 15:34:56 | z0de | why jhMikeS |
| 15:35:08 | jhMikeS | z0de: kidding |
| 15:35:12 | Lear | jhmikes: btw, that occasional failure of building the Rec 8MB target happens when an older version of gcc is used. |
| 15:35:16 | z0de | heh |
| 15:35:16 | barrywardell | jhMikeS: the original code for the H10 wasn't working properly anyway so I copied it from the X5 code :) |
| 15:35:37 | jhMikeS | barrywardell: ahhh...good choice :) |
| 15:35:50 | Quazgaa | z0de: well ive explored most of the functionalities i think, and it works great |
| 15:36:00 | barrywardell | jhMikeS: the lock icon does get updated for me on the menu |
| 15:36:06 | Quazgaa | i was playing pacman and doom earlier that was pretty cool :p |
| 15:36:06 | jhMikeS | my rec button kinda sticks a bit sometimes |
| 15:36:14 | z0de | doom rolf |
| 15:36:57 | Quazgaa | yeah it actually looks quite nice on the x5 :) |
| 15:36:58 | jhMikeS | barrywardell: don't move the cursor or anything...just flick the hold switch |
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| 15:37:20 | Quazgaa | my porn looks pretty nice on it too |
| 15:37:22 | z0de | hows the joystick for navigation |
| 15:37:33 | z0de | and can it show album art |
| 15:37:34 | barrywardell | jhMikeS: yep, still works for me |
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| 15:37:45 | Quazgaa | joystick is OK |
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| 15:37:54 | jhMikeS | barrywardell: you're using what H10? |
| 15:38:02 | barrywardell | yes, H10 20GB |
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| 15:38:17 | Quazgaa | well theres a picture viewer |
| 15:38:38 | jhMikeS | something to investigate...on x5 it's not getting updated properly...or wasn't |
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| 15:39:06 | barrywardell | maybe it has been fixed |
| 15:40:03 | jhMikeS | barrywardell: maybe you fixed it? ;) |
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| 15:40:56 | linuxstb | dfsgdfsg: There is only one generation of Nano - where on the website does it say there are two? |
| 15:41:27 | barrywardell | i doubt i did. i only changed the button-h10.c file |
| 15:41:55 | barrywardell | something is very wrong if that also affected the x5 :P |
| 15:43:17 | jhMikeS | Lear: it failed on Rec 8MB on the build system, not for me personally so couldn't be my gcc version |
| 15:43:46 | Quazgaa | any chance of recording 24bit and/or 96khz wav on the x5 ? |
| 15:44:25 | kratos | is there a feature to shuffle all files on a h120 into a playlist and not only the files in a specific directory? |
| 15:44:26 | jhMikeS | Quazgaa: not a chance for 96khz...you you'd get 88200 at best |
| 15:44:40 | Quazgaa | 882 would be neat :) |
| 15:45:02 | Lear | jhmikes: Yes, I was refering the the build system. That server uses gcc 3.3.x something, which is a bit old (the script even warns about it). |
| 15:45:04 | dfsgdfsg | linuxstb |
| 15:45:19 | dfsgdfsg | Apple: iPod 4th gen (grayscale and color), 5th gen (Video), Nano and Mini 1st/2nd gen |
| 15:45:32 | Arathis | barrywardell: made a little timecheck for the H20. startup time ~ 4s | time till battery stops blinking ~ 48s | time till battery is full ~ 1m45s (but my battery isn't fully loaded (about 73%) |
| 15:45:45 | jhMikeS | Quazgaa: As for bit depth...I'll check that real quick... |
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| 15:46:31 | Arathis | by stairing at the battery status I noticed that it slows down when "charging" (filling up the icon) |
| 15:46:33 | Quazgaa | how hard would it be to support the extra sampling rate / bit depth ? |
| 15:47:18 | linuxstb | iloveOOv: The "1st/2nd gen" only refers to the Mini. |
| 15:47:20 | jhMikeS | Quazgaa: Coldfire can do 16,18 and 20 |
| 15:47:32 | Quazgaa | weird |
| 15:47:36 | iloveOOv | linuxstb> ok |
| 15:48:20 | iloveOOv | linuxstb> i just had my ipod yesterday, im a noobie |
| 15:48:23 | iloveOOv | xD |
| 15:48:34 | jhMikeS | Quazgaa: The sampling rate would be easy but the bit depth thing more difficult...you'd just have to pad to 24 or something |
| 15:48:56 | linuxstb | iloveOOv: I can see how that list can be confusing. |
| 15:49:06 | Arathis | does rockbox use shuffle or random playback algorithm? |
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| 15:49:26 | Arathis | would be neat to choose that for oneself |
| 15:49:29 | JdGordon | shuffle... |
| 15:49:39 | Quazgaa | jhMikeS: ah ok, well at least the output would be more useable then ;) |
| 15:50:17 | Arathis | JdGordon: too bad. why is shuffle so popular? I like random more :( |
| 15:50:50 | Soap | why you say shuffle, Arathis, you are speaking of a non-true-random which advoids playing the same song twice? |
| 15:50:58 | Soap | *avoids |
| 15:50:59 | JdGordon | there isnt really a difference.... shuffle works better in rb because the way the playslists are stored |
| 15:51:54 | JdGordon | it is possible (i tinhk) to add "random" random mode.. but its not worth the effort... |
| 15:52:25 | jhMikeS | why is shuffle not true random...reording of a list can indeed be perfectly random |
| 15:52:36 | jhMikeS | *reordering |
| 15:53:42 | jhMikeS | It's the same as pulling out random cards from a deck and not replacing them |
| 15:53:52 | barrywardell | Arathis: the battery readings are not to be believed just yet. they need to be calibrated |
| 15:53:59 | * | Soap is still looking for the RockBox definition of "Shuffle", a nebulous term at best. |
| 15:54:26 | JdGordon | rockbox shuffle just reorders the playlist somewaht randomly... |
| 15:54:50 | Lear | jhmikes: it's not the randomness that's the difference, with shuffle, you don't put the cards back, with random you do. |
| 15:54:52 | JdGordon | iirc it goes through evey item and replaces it with another item in the array.. so the 1 track could be moved more than once |
| 15:54:56 | Soap | ahh, so all songs are played once before one repeats. |
| 15:55:01 | Lear | and rockbox does the shuffle. |
| 15:55:03 | Arathis | Soap: as far as I know shuffle jumps a random number of titles from the now playing one and random jumps to a random title in the list by choosing a random titlenumber out of the whole list titleamount. but yes, a random playlist avoiding to play the same title is what I'm searching for. |
| 15:55:05 | JdGordon | unless shuffle repeat is on.. |
| 15:56:16 | Soap | Arathis - that is the "Foobar" def., and I grok what you are asking for, I just don't think "Shuffle" is universaly accepted to mean that. |
| 15:56:26 | Arathis | barrywardell: I know. just wanted to gove a clue how long it actualy takes to the actual lifetime to be "correct" |
| 15:56:44 | JdGordon | shuffle is the perfect word for how rockbox random works... because it does just that |
| 15:56:44 | barrywardell | yeah, thanks. hopefully it will help |
| 15:58:09 | Soap | JdGordon - My Sony (home) CD player calls it Shuffle, and doesn't repeat...whereas my Sony (car) CD player calls it shuffle and will repeat. |
| 15:58:22 | JdGordon | its a sooneee! |
| 15:58:36 | Soap | yea, let's not talk about that. |
| 15:58:39 | Soap | :( |
| 15:58:40 | jhMikeS | Lear: yes...my point exactly :) but replacement/nonreplacement are both "random" |
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| 16:01:50 | jhMikeS | if repeat one is on you can't skip to another song unless that's been fixed too |
| 16:03:31 | JdGordon | thats how its supposed to work tho? |
| 16:03:37 | JdGordon | s/?/! |
| 16:04:42 | jhMikeS | It would be nice to repeat the _current_ song but be able to go to the next and have that one repeat |
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| 16:11:26 | JdGordon | bed time for me |
| 16:11:27 | JdGordon | cyaz |
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| 16:14:30 | Arathis | does anybody know what/why rockbox is searching when you start a track from tagcache? |
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| 16:20:51 | Slasheri | Arathis: it needs to build a playlist and find the selected track's filename |
| 16:21:03 | Slasheri | Arathis: if you load tagcache to ram, that should be seamless |
| 16:21:42 | webguest83 | hey anyone, I have an H10 6GB , and I want to know which folders to replace with a theme file |
| 16:22:38 | Arathis | Slasheri: I *do* load to RAM, but it takes some seconds to search anyway :( |
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| 16:24:49 | Slasheri | Arathis: hmm, do you have dircache enabled? |
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| 16:39:31 | Arathis_ | Slasheri: did you get my last question? i had a big lag here |
| 16:39:55 | Slasheri | 17:22 < Arathis> Slasheri: I *do* load to RAM, but it takes some seconds to search anyway :( |
| 16:40:00 | Slasheri | that was the last i got.. |
| 16:40:09 | Slasheri | and then i asked if you had dircache enabled |
| 16:40:28 | Arathis_ | didn't get that one |
| 16:40:51 | Arathis_ | no, dircache isn't anabled. i think it's also known for freezing the player on the h10 |
| 16:42:29 | Arathis_ | Slasheri: there isn't any possibility to call the tagcache creation status? |
| 16:42:38 | Arathis_ | that was my last question |
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| 16:43:25 | Slasheri | Arathis_: you can check the debug menu and view tagcache info there |
| 16:44:10 | Arathis | progress: -1% (5161 entries) |
| 16:44:54 | Arathis | Slasheri: weird status |
| 16:46:54 | Arathis | when i restart the player it says "creating tagcache (x/13)" |
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| 16:47:47 | Slasheri | ok, that sounds normal |
| 16:47:57 | Slasheri | then it should work |
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| 16:48:25 | Arathis | dircache is only usefull for the browser or also for tagcache creation? |
| 16:48:49 | Slasheri | Arathis: if dircache is enabled, it should half the time it takes to build the tagcache db |
| 16:48:59 | Slasheri | so it's very useful for tagcache also |
| 16:49:31 | Arathis | too bad barryisn't here cause i realy don't know if it still freezes the player :/ |
| 16:50:27 | seeker | hi all... can someone tell me if there has been some recent improvements on power managemnt on the x5 port? |
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| 16:55:00 | seeker | or to ask another way: is power consumption on x5 comparable with original firmware? |
| 16:56:37 | Arathis | Slasheri: the busy icon in the statusbar is also an indicator if tqagcache has ended or not. just works if nothing else is using the hd though ;) |
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| 16:59:26 | Arathis | Slasheri: got the busy icon thing? i'm quite laggy today :( |
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| 17:03:09 | d1ry4n | What is the status of a Sansa port (e200)? |
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| 17:06:16 | dan_a_away | d1ry4n: Difficult! We've not managed to write to the LCD yet, which is the first step towards being able to find out how to make other things work. |
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| 17:10:07 | d1ry4n | Is Sandisk helping? |
| 17:13:42 | dan_a | I believe they provided us with a couple of players including a developers' model, but they can't tell us a lot of things which we need to know either because they don't know or they are under a non-disclosure agreement. |
| 17:14:50 | Soap | that is the nicest thing I have heard about Sandisk's participation. |
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| 17:15:08 | Slasheri | Arathis: yeah, but i don't have that busy icon at all because iriver has a real hd led :) |
| 17:15:09 | * | dan_a should be a diplomat! |
| 17:17:57 | dan_a | d1ry4n: We've now got three people working on the port, but any help is always appreciated :) |
| 17:18:23 | Arathis | Slasheri: the icon is a RB thing, what has that todo with the iriver hardware? or was it just deleted from the code for your player? (h1x0 i asume?) |
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| 17:26:08 | webguest13 | is there someone working on recording for ipod? |
| 17:27:09 | markun | I don't think there is |
| 17:29:20 | d1ry4n | dan_a: what specifically is the diffuculty with the LCD. Don't know where to start, or something in particular? |
| 17:29:27 | markun | webguest13: are you interested in doing it? |
| 17:31:13 | webguest13 | no i dont know how to program :( |
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| 17:32:08 | dan_a | d1ry4n: We think we know how to make it work, but it doesn't. We're just missing something - maybe are some steps which we need to do which we haven't done yet. It's just a matter of keeping on trying |
| 17:34:48 | d1ry4n | Dan_a: good luck! I'm not an LCD expert or I would put in some effort. I would just be in the way. I do have other embedded experience so I might be able to help in another area. Is there a to do list for Sansa or rockbox in general? |
| 17:37:58 | Soap | FWIW, linuxstb IS working on recording on the ipod. |
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| 17:41:30 | dan_a | d1ry4n: The Sansa list is on the forums at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3225.165 - the things that need doing in Rockbox are either in the Wiki, in Flyspray (our bug/patch/feature request tracker) or in people's heads ;) |
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| 17:43:01 | Arathis_ | Bagder: any progress on the building system for CVS? :( |
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| 17:48:45 | d1ry4n | Dan_a: Thx. I'll see what I can do to help. I also need to set up a dev environment for this. I'm serious about contributing, but admit I am a bit new (read as slow!). |
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| 17:50:57 | Soap | woohoo my 5G iPod Battery Benchmark test is going stronger than I expected. I'm at the 11 hour mark currently playing -APS mp3s, and that's on a stock build w/o the 64MB patch to decrease hard drive spinups. |
| 17:50:59 | dan_a | So am I - I only really started coding a couple of months ago. Fortunately, I find Rockbox code very easy to understand (in the places I've been looking, at least.) There is a lot of information on how to get started with developing in the wiki |
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| 18:19:13 | linuxstb | Soap: Are you planning to benchmark the Apple firmware as well? |
| 18:21:00 | * | ender` yawns |
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| 18:35:09 | thegeek | has there been any progress on the sandisk port lately? |
| 18:36:06 | linuxstb | Scroll up and read what dan_a said about 90 minutes ago.. |
| 18:36:10 | karim | linuxstb, what options do I have do debug asm ? |
| 18:36:24 | linuxstb | Not many... |
| 18:37:00 | karim | okay |
| 18:37:09 | karim | still haven't found that bug ... |
| 18:37:31 | karim | can it be done with a bdm ? |
| 18:37:44 | linuxstb | Do you have an equivalent C function to your troublesome ASM function? |
| 18:37:55 | karim | linuxstb, that's what I was going to do |
| 18:38:14 | karim | shouldn't take long |
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| 18:38:38 | karim | should I try to copy cat the asm code |
| 18:38:51 | karim | or just do what the algorithm is supposed to do ? |
| 18:39:02 | linuxstb | Have other people looked at your ASM code? |
| 18:40:17 | karim | I think amiconn did |
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| 18:40:30 | linuxstb | Generally, I would debug ASM just by reading the source code and hoping the bug jumps out... Commenting it heavily will help as well. |
| 18:40:31 | karim | linuxstb, Lear does |
| 18:41:21 | karim | well the disturbing thing is that it partially works. the key frames are decoded fine. |
| 18:41:46 | linuxstb | I don't know how well you've commented your code, but if you add comments saying what you think the code should be doing, it would be easier for others to spot any bugs. |
| 18:42:04 | karim | but the next frame after and in the zone where there is moving, a dot at the (0,0) pixel (upper left pixel) appear, and the error propagate on the image. |
| 18:42:12 | dionoea | i'm curious. What are you coding in assembler karim ? |
| 18:42:18 | iloveOOv | hi, is it possible to run the game "monkey island" on an ipod nano with rockbox (i think ive read it somewhere but im not sure if i ve really read it or if its my minds creation xD) |
| 18:42:21 | karim | the dot appear on each 8x8 intra block |
| 18:42:32 | karim | wich are moving |
| 18:42:40 | karim | dionoea, idct |
| 18:42:53 | dionoea | nice :) what CPU are you doing that for ? |
| 18:42:55 | karim | iloveOOv, there is monkey island ?? |
| 18:43:01 | karim | dionoea, coldfire |
| 18:43:04 | dionoea | :( |
| 18:43:09 | iloveOOv | karim i dont really know |
| 18:43:27 | dionoea | how much performance increase do you get ? |
| 18:43:57 | karim | around 1 fps |
| 18:44:02 | iloveOOv | nobody heard about it? |
| 18:44:04 | karim | but that's not optimal |
| 18:44:34 | karim | I want to have the full idct of one block into the same asm function. also we don't use iram to it's best |
| 18:44:35 | markun | iloveOOv: you could ask in #scummvm if they think a dual ARM 75MHz is fast enough |
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| 18:44:56 | iloveOOv | to run monkey island? |
| 18:45:03 | markun | it should be possible to play it on the gigabeat |
| 18:45:16 | Arathis | markun: but first rockbox would nead to handle scummv or dos at all, or not? |
| 18:45:18 | markun | (after the rockbox port and if we port scummvm) |
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| 18:45:41 | markun | well, scummvm will work a lot better than a DOS emulator.. |
| 18:45:42 | Arathis | :) |
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| 18:46:29 | iloveOOv | btw what is the best site to download ipod games? |
| 18:46:40 | markun | is there a site for ipod games? |
| 18:46:53 | iloveOOv | oO dont know |
| 18:46:57 | Arathis | would be great to have scummv running with rockbox. as well as a c64 emulator. but Monkey Island would be not much fun I think, cause the screens are to smal to read the text |
| 18:47:24 | Arathis | iloveOOv: or do you mean games for rockbox on the ipod? |
| 18:47:40 | markun | Arathis: well, you could play the adventures that have Talkie versions.. |
| 18:47:46 | iloveOOv | rockbox games are all on the rockbox webiste |
| 18:47:48 | iloveOOv | i think |
| 18:47:50 | iloveOOv | no? |
| 18:48:10 | * | linuxstb downloads scummvm and sees a C++ application... |
| 18:48:17 | markun | linuxstb: hm, yes.. |
| 18:48:39 | linuxstb | Not fun... |
| 18:50:22 | markun | iloveOOv: maybe it's possible with ipodlinux: http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9208 |
| 18:51:59 | Arathis | markun: the only MI titles with sound where 3+4, but 4 was 3d. |
| 18:52:37 | markun | but you can play DOTT or S&M |
| 18:53:11 | iloveOOv | ipodlinux doesnt work with ipod nano actually |
| 18:54:18 | markun | I'm pretty sure it does.. |
| 18:54:20 | linuxstb | It does - when they say "unsupported" it just means it hasn't been released officially. So a similar status to Rockbox for the ipods. |
| 18:58:54 | Arathis | s&m would be great to play on withrockbox :D |
| 18:59:05 | iloveOOv | i fear to use an "unofficial" stuff :) |
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| 18:59:39 | nls | would scummvm need to be rewritten entirely (to C) to work with rockbox? |
| 18:59:56 | Arathis | i think so |
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| 19:00:26 | Arathis | or at least converted. I don't know how much C++ differs |
| 19:00:48 | nls | then I think we can stop dreaming because that is a HUGE task |
| 19:03:36 | linuxstb | An alternative approach would be to make C++ code run in Rockbox, but I've no idea how hard that would be... |
| 19:05:16 | BHSPitLappy | they did that in podzilla2, through the use of a module |
| 19:05:38 | coob | it depends what parts of c++ scumvm uses.. |
| 19:05:38 | BHSPitLappy | I suppose it wouldn't be so similar here... |
| 19:05:48 | karim | is it possible to combien MACROS. for exemple let's say I have #define MA1(a,b) a*b; #define MA2 MA1(2,3) |
| 19:05:54 | karim | combine |
| 19:06:35 | karim | well you see what I mean ? |
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| 19:22:38 | merbanan | linuxstb: I think the c++ in scummvm is quite clean from special c++ things |
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| 19:33:01 | [San] | when you are in the recording screen maby you could have a little logo or something telling you what source you are recording from. It might already be implemented but I havent checked the latest build. |
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| 19:49:29 | barrywardell | is the build system still broken? |
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| 19:51:23 | * | barrywardell pings Bagder |
| 19:51:37 | * | Bagder already gave it a kick |
| 19:53:57 | barrywardell | thanks |
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| 20:05:37 | Arathis | seams to work again Bagder. thanks! |
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| 20:05:55 | Bagder | I'll fix the automatic "fix" script one of these days |
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| 20:06:13 | Bagder | bbl |
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| 20:07:28 | Arathis | Bagder: only the "(in 6mins 31secs)" doesn't change at all. but if it will build I'm fine with this |
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| 20:07:52 | Bagder | it does change based on previous build times |
| 20:08:15 | Arathis | ah, okay |
| 20:08:35 | Bagder | its moving average over the last 4 builds |
| 20:08:55 | Bagder | now I am off... |
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| 20:09:34 | Coldtoast | howdy |
| 20:10:56 | Coldtoast | I reckon.... there should be a volume limit option in rb as there is in the Apple ipod firmware. Dunno if it's just these earphones but MAN can I pump it up loud |
| 20:11:04 | Arathis | barrywardell: and the battery status flickers at the last bit. probably just because it drains so fast to actualy say it is 70% or 73% now. (an appendix for my time test some hours ago. you were off before I could write it ;) ) |
| 20:11:52 | barrywardell | what do you mean by the last bit? |
| 20:11:53 | Coldtoast | btw.. brilliant job on the vmware debian image :) just compiled rb with the album art patch using vmplayer |
| 20:12:50 | Arathis | barrywardell: when the status reaches the actual battery capacity. |
| 20:13:23 | barrywardell | ah, ok |
| 20:17:52 | Arathis | barrywardell: instead of resetting the settings after updating to latest CVS can I just load my saved ones? |
| 20:18:30 | barrywardell | i'm not sure if that will work. what you can do, is save your settings, reset them and then load your saved settings again |
| 20:19:19 | Arathis | oaky |
| 20:19:20 | BigMac | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060910-140749.jpg |
| 20:19:23 | Arathis | *okay |
| 20:19:28 | BigMac | http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/anarchyluvsme/dump060910-140703.jpg |
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| 20:19:54 | BigMac | can someone tell me how I could fix my pbar in the first one to look like the second one? |
| 20:21:55 | Arathis | barrywardell: btw I didn't have had problems with dircache 'cause I hadn't enabled it yet. I just thought I heared about it on the channel |
| 20:22:10 | Lear | bigmac: decrease height a little, then move box (in the background image?) to match. |
| 20:22:40 | barrywardell | well I don't know of any dircache problems anyway. |
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| 20:26:49 | Arathis | I'll look for it |
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| 20:34:05 | maddog011 | Arathis, any new builds? |
| 20:34:18 | Arathis | doesn't seem so :( |
| 20:34:23 | Soap | BigMac - not having seen the WPS code or your images, it appears you need to make the "border" or "frame" of the progress bar bitmap in the first example larger, so that it fully covers all the parts of the progress bar you don't want to see. If I had to guess, I'd say (regarding again the first example) the bitmap is nothing more than a white frame around a transparent inside. You need to either enlarge the white frame so that it fully surrounds the prog |
| 20:34:27 | maddog011 | is the last one, we used last night ? |
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| 20:34:42 | Arathis | Bagder: cvs.html still says "Build expected to complete around 18:10:10 (in 6mins 31secs)" |
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| 20:35:31 | barrywardell | yeah, looks like the build system is still broken |
| 20:35:59 | barrywardell | that latest change by me isn't important for anything but the bootloader anyway |
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| 20:37:04 | mithyron | evening folks ... im a total total n00b −−- owner of a archos AV500 for less than a day :) From what I read on the site this device is not yet supported .. is that right ? |
| 20:37:36 | maddog011 | mithyron, not atm unfortunatly |
| 20:37:43 | mithyron | ah well .. |
| 20:37:55 | mithyron | thanks for the reply maddog011 |
| 20:38:14 | maddog011 | np :) |
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| 20:38:37 | Soap | BigMac - Ahh, but that is a JBuild specific WPS is it not? If so doesn't one of his patches allow you to change the height of the progress bar? If so then you need to do that. |
| 20:39:28 | Arathis | barrywardell: is the commit regarding the settings problem? |
| 20:40:02 | maddog011 | hm, what about the recording function of the h10 |
| 20:40:48 | maddog011 | is that tough to make? |
| 20:41:49 | barrywardell | no, there is no real settings problem as such. it's just that my lcd commit added a couple of extra settings (Upside down) and contrast. Whenever settings are added like that, I think it is necessary to reset the settings like that |
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| 20:42:35 | Arathis | so your last commit (bootloader) hasn't anything todo with that? |
| 20:42:35 | barrywardell | maddog011: haven't looked into it yet. there is work done for recording on the ipod. once that is complete, adapting it for the H10 should be fairly simple |
| 20:43:08 | maddog011 | I compiled the code from the cvs today, and had some look at it... |
| 20:43:09 | barrywardell | Arathis: nope. it just allow the bootloader to build again. my previous commit caused the build to fail |
| 20:43:13 | maddog011 | its complicated as f*** |
| 20:43:36 | maddog011 | but im trying to figure out what's what, gj for the comments |
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| 20:44:27 | maddog011 | its documented preety well, I noticed ur not as sloppy as I am |
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| 20:51:19 | barrywardell | yes, there's a lot of code in Rockbox, and it takes quite a while to figure out how it all fits together |
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| 20:56:23 | BigMac | wasn't someone working on recording for the ipod? |
| 20:57:58 | barrywardell | yes, linuxstb apparently has it working somewhat. but i think he said it still needs more work |
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| 21:04:34 | BigMac | Is there a patch available? |
| 21:05:02 | linuxstb | Not yet. Which ipod do you have? |
| 21:05:23 | Febs_ | Note to self: when editing the manual, edit the manual files in rockbox-devel/manual, NOT in rockbox-devel/manualbuild/manual. |
| 21:05:51 | * | Febs_ accidentally overwrote some work today. |
| 21:06:28 | linuxstb | Febs_: I know I should read the manual, but as you're here, I'll ask. Do the ipod installation instructions in the manual tell users to keep a safe backup of their bootpartition.bin file? |
| 21:07:01 | BigMac | 5g |
| 21:07:01 | Febs_ | One second, I happen to have that file open. I'll check. |
| 21:07:46 | Febs_ | linuxstb: yes. |
| 21:07:46 | linuxstb | BigMac: You'll need to build a cable to give you access to the line-in pins in the dock connector before you can record on a 5g anyway. |
| 21:08:03 | linuxstb | Febs_: Good, thanks. |
| 21:08:22 | BigMac | How complicated would that be |
| 21:08:32 | BigMac | and do you/anyone have a guide on how to do it |
| 21:08:37 | Soap | BigMac - and build/buy a mic amp if you want to record with most microphones. |
| 21:08:37 | Febs_ | linuxstb: And since *you're* here, I'll ask rather than looking this up: |
| 21:08:49 | Febs_ | Is this the right command to restore the ipod bootloader to original: ipodpatcher -r \emph{N} bootpartition.bin |
| 21:08:58 | Febs_ | (ignore the emph) |
| 21:09:04 | BigMac | Soap:mic amp? |
| 21:09:06 | Soap | BigMac http://ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector |
| 21:09:09 | linuxstb | BigMac: http://ipodlinux.org/Recording and http://ipodlinux.org/Dock_Connector (and probably search the IPL forums...) |
| 21:09:50 | linuxstb | Febs_: No, "-r" is read. You want "-w" to write that backup back to the ipod. It should be the same command as the one at the end of the instructions to write rockboot.bin. |
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| 21:10:15 | Febs_ | I'm glad I asked. So it's: ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin |
| 21:10:41 | linuxstb | Yes. |
| 21:10:41 | barrywardell | linuxstb: any chance of a recording patch so I can have a look at getting it working with the H10? |
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| 21:11:50 | amiconn | hrrrrmphh!!! |
| 21:11:53 | linuxstb | barrywardell: My code won't apply to current CVS any more - there have been a lot of recording changes since I worked on it. I'll try and resync it as soon as I can and post to the patch tracker. |
| 21:12:04 | barrywardell | cool, thanks |
| 21:12:04 | amiconn | Zagor should really update his darn build server |
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| 21:13:08 | amiconn | (and we have a hanging build again, grmph) |
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| 21:19:54 | Soap | The 5th gen iPod's Hardware EQ is fully in CVS now, is it not? Can I remove that entry from the wiki to-do list? |
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| 21:27:13 | linuxstb | Soap: I would say so. |
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| 21:31:26 | BigMac | linuxstb:http://ipodlinux.org/images/thumb/f/f8/100px-Homemade_Stereo_Microphone_Parts.jpg |
| 21:31:34 | BigMac | thats what i have to make |
| 21:32:26 | BigMac | ? |
| 21:33:37 | linuxstb | Maybe, I can't see anything in that tiny picture... |
| 21:34:08 | BigMac | http://ipodlinux.org/images/e/e8/Homemade_Stereo_Microphone_Parts.jpg |
| 21:34:10 | BigMac | better/ |
| 21:35:41 | linuxstb | Do you have a link to a webpage explaining the picture? |
| 21:36:15 | linuxstb | But yes, that looks right - you'll at least need a cable like the one you can see in the right of the picture. |
| 21:36:25 | BigMac | http://ipodlinux.org/Recording |
| 21:36:32 | BigMac | Oh just the cable? |
| 21:36:38 | BigMac | what about those boxes? |
| 21:38:02 | linuxstb | That cable will give you access to the line-in on your ipod. You can then plug any line-level source into it. If you want a mic, you'll need a pre-amp to increase the levels to line-level - one of those boxes looks like it could be a pre-amp to do that, and the other box in the mic itself. |
| 21:38:04 | Arathis | still no new builds .. :( |
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| 21:38:59 | barrywardell | Arathis: there won't be any new builds until Bagder comes back and fixes the problem |
| 21:39:16 | BigMac | Ok so if I make the cable, i can use my computer mic? |
| 21:39:20 | Arathis | didn't notice he wasn't there |
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| 21:42:16 | BigMac | I hope I don't need those boxes, because they are rather bulky and don't look too user friendly |
| 21:42:28 | BigMac | when I could just buy an iTalk |
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| 21:48:55 | BigMac | linuxstb:you there |
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| 22:09:08 | larsm | hi, when i try to build rockbox in windows with cygwin i get this error: http://davidn.de/userdata/File/lars/bilder_hp/haupt/fehler.png |
| 22:10:32 | larsm | i installed cygwin like discriped in SimpleGuideToCompiling |
| 22:11:22 | Soap | BigMac - the fool who put that mic amp in a metal junction box was just silly. |
| 22:11:47 | Soap | That box has got to weigh at least 1/4 pound alone. |
| 22:12:01 | larsm | please help! |
| 22:13:13 | petur | larsm: you already did make clean and configure again? |
| 22:13:24 | BigMac | Soap:is there an actual guide that will show me how to make this |
| 22:13:29 | BigMac | with actual steps |
| 22:13:29 | Soap | BigMac - you should be able to fit a stereo (twin) opamps in a 35mm (photographic) film can and then wire that plastic can inline with your cable. |
| 22:13:37 | BigMac | not just a picture with no description |
| 22:13:50 | Soap | google microphone op-amp line-in |
| 22:14:00 | BigMac | will do |
| 22:14:01 | larsm | i always delete everything and unpack rockbox again when i got an error |
| 22:14:09 | Soap | or wait for me to publish my schematics when I'm done. |
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| 22:15:22 | webguest41 | Soap: would you mind mentioning to A_O that there is a H140 for sale at mistic http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46557 |
| 22:15:42 | Soap | I was planning on building a 1/8" jacks right into the ipod-dock connectors, to make them more compact, w/o need for that dongle cable shown in the photo you linked. |
| 22:16:01 | Coldtoast | I have a H140 I no longer use actually |
| 22:16:13 | Soap | webguest41 - when he's back on line? |
| 22:16:37 | webguest41 | yep, he's looking for a H140 |
| 22:16:43 | BigMac | Soap:none of them have any guides |
| 22:16:44 | Soap | will do |
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| 22:16:53 | webguest41 | and I'm not online at the moment either |
| 22:17:02 | Soap | BigMac - then browse Barns&Noble. |
| 22:17:17 | barrywardell | larsm: you probably need a coldfire assembler |
| 22:17:19 | Soap | You can find plenty of books with op-amp plans there. |
| 22:17:29 | larsm | where can i get that? |
| 22:17:56 | Soap | I'd give you more details, but I only know what I'm looking for, I have yet to find out specificly how I am going to do it. |
| 22:18:25 | BigMac | Soap:no dice |
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| 22:19:00 | Soap | no dice? |
| 22:19:19 | BigMac | nothing on there |
| 22:19:21 | barrywardell | actually scrap that idea. i see it already compiled some asm |
| 22:20:03 | larsm | im am able to compile it for h120, but it fails for my h340! |
| 22:20:51 | BigMac | Soap:nothing came up |
| 22:21:14 | Lear | larsm: one option is to do a cvs checkout; the source archive isn't complete for the h3x0 target... |
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| 22:21:18 | Soap | There are sooo many electronic project books at bookstores and libraries, I'd suggest looking there, but if you want hand-holding you are going to need to wait until I get a final design going. |
| 22:21:59 | BigMac | No I don't want hand holding |
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| 22:22:03 | Soap | Nothing came up because you were searching book titles, not at the physical library physically looking through the project books. |
| 22:22:03 | BigMac | I just want a guide |
| 22:22:21 | barrywardell | larsm: is there a file called lcd-as-h300.S in firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/h300? |
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| 22:22:50 | linuxstb_ | larsm: I assume you downloaded the source .tar.bz2 file? |
| 22:23:07 | larsm | no the file is not there |
| 22:23:19 | barrywardell | there's your problem |
| 22:23:21 | spiorf | hi, the mpeg player works only with video with the same size as the screen? |
| 22:23:23 | BigMac | Its rather hard for me to believe that there is no guide on the net for this |
| 22:23:28 | barrywardell | it's not in firmware/FILES |
| 22:23:34 | linuxstb_ | barrywardell: See my latest CVS commit. |
| 22:23:40 | larsm | i tryed daily and cvs archive |
| 22:24:19 | linuxstb_ | larsm: It was missing - it should be in the next cvs build download. Or you can just checkout the source from CVS yourself. |
| 22:24:20 | barrywardell | haha. you're quicker than me |
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| 22:24:59 | larsm | i searched the whole file, there is no file lcd-as-h300.* |
| 22:25:26 | larsm | i've never used cvs, il try... |
| 22:25:35 | barrywardell | larsm, it's not in the zip file you downloaded |
| 22:25:40 | larsm | no |
| 22:25:46 | barrywardell | it will be in the next version of that file |
| 22:25:48 | barrywardell | and in cvs |
| 22:26:08 | larsm | thats great, thanks! |
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| 22:26:45 | Soap | BigMac - http://www.geocities.com/ferocious_1999/md/micpreamp2.html |
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| 22:27:09 | leftright | first ggogle hit for an mini amp kit and only 19.95 http://www.montek.com/cart/product.php?productid=26908&cat=414&bestseller |
| 22:29:33 | linuxstb_ | spiorf: The mpegplayer should handle different size videos to your screen, but it won't scale them. |
| 22:30:26 | spiorf | linuxstb_, which format are supported? |
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| 22:31:22 | linuxstb_ | MPEG-1 and MPEG-2. Currently only raw video streams - no audio. |
| 22:32:17 | Arathis | spiorf: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 22:32:29 | spiorf | thanks |
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| 22:33:02 | larsm | is there any chance to get scummvm running on h3x0? |
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| 22:33:36 | larsm | (the old lucas arts adventures) |
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| 22:37:02 | linuxstb_ | dionoea: "char" is unsigned on ARM processors - so your latest CVS commit probably breaks solitaire... It at least generates a warning. You should explicitly use "signed char" if that's what you need, but in most cases, just using "int" is better. |
| 22:37:39 | dionoea | humm ... i'll add signed then |
| 22:37:51 | Arathis | does the build system work again? oO there is no buildtime .. |
| 22:38:14 | Bagder | no build time? |
| 22:38:24 | Bagder | "5mins 51secs" is time |
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| 22:41:35 | Coldtoast | hey. is it possible ont he WPS to set the vertical position of %pb? |
| 22:42:23 | Lear | hm.. time to upgrade the sh1 compiler on lillebror? |
| 22:43:37 | Bagder | yeah, zagor's box |
| 22:43:44 | Bagder | I've disabled sh on his server for now |
| 22:44:40 | BigMac | deal Soap? |
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| 22:49:07 | quiksilver | hi all |
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| 23:07:17 | Arathis | had a lag, anything important the last half hour? |
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| 23:10:56 | Arathis | Bagder: sry, if you answerd before, but does the build system work again or not? |
| 23:12:23 | quiksilver | yes i believe it works now |
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| 23:42:05 | Davide-NYC | Can 'Power' and 'Hold' actions be invoked in the Simulator? |
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| 23:42:37 | Davide-NYC | As in the hold switches and ac-adaptor being virtually plugged in? |
| 23:44:25 | Bagder | I don't think so |
| 23:45:52 | Davide-NYC | Would that be of any use to anyone? |
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| 23:46:54 | Davide-NYC | What about selectable remotes with appropriate keymappings when there are multiple remotes available? |
| 23:47:21 | Davide-NYC | (thinking iRiver H1xx and H3xx series in particular) |
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