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| 00:06:20 | Seed | hello |
| 00:06:24 | xmixahlx | hey |
| 00:06:51 | xmixahlx | so this is where we wait to pounce on preglow, huh |
| 00:07:11 | preglow | waht |
| 00:10:23 | hardeep | preglow groupies? |
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| 00:10:55 | xmixahlx | hi preglow, i was going to ask you if you had snowgoon's musepack patches still |
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| 00:15:31 | preglow | xmixahlx: why'd you want those? |
| 00:15:48 | preglow | xmixahlx: also, which patches? |
| 00:16:02 | * | amiconn spots an active hardeep |
| 00:16:34 | amiconn | hardeep: There is a small playlist related problem: |
| 00:17:35 | amiconn | It's possible to start a shuffled playlist in 2 ways, (1) by enabling shuffle and adding a folder and (2) by adding adding a folder via 'insert shuffled' |
| 00:18:20 | amiconn | But if you choose method (2), and do that directly after boot (i.e. without using the PRNG otherwise before), it always produces the same order for a certain folder |
| 00:19:15 | Seed | preglow: to attempt to compile for Linux and Windows with all of the latest improvements |
| 00:19:49 | amiconn | Obviously the PRNG isn't seeded with the tick in that case, but I think th efix isn't trivial. Somehow the seed needs to be stored in .playlist_control ... |
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| 00:20:18 | preglow | Seed: i see no reason why that shouldn't work like a charm, so go ahead |
| 00:20:27 | Seed | it doesn't :) |
| 00:20:36 | preglow | Seed: i've heard no complaints from users since i commited them |
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| 00:26:56 | spincycle | anyone have any advice - i may have bricked my iriver... |
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| 00:27:34 | BHSPitMonkey | umm |
| 00:27:35 | BHSPitMonkey | get a job |
| 00:27:38 | BHSPitMonkey | work for a week |
| 00:27:39 | BHSPitMonkey | quit |
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| 00:27:43 | spincycle | at least it has frozen and will not turn off |
| 00:27:46 | BHSPitMonkey | buy an iPod. |
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| 00:28:22 | spincycle | i would have bought one had i wanted something that does not record |
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| 00:30:53 | BHSPitMonkey | what?? |
| 00:31:00 | spincycle | I was going to the record screen and it says "couldn't load codec: /.rockbox/codecs/mp3_enc.c... |
| 00:31:08 | spincycle | and it won't power off |
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| 00:32:14 | spincycle | and it's frozen |
| 00:32:37 | spincycle | except the light will come on when I push a button |
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| 00:33:26 | spincycle | hopefully when the battery dies it will reboot okay |
| 00:33:30 | rotator | spincycle: what model? |
| 00:33:40 | spincycle | in the meantime I was hoping to get other ideas |
| 00:33:46 | spincycle | iHP-140 |
| 00:33:59 | rotator | use a paperclip in the reset hole on the bottom |
| 00:34:22 | rotator | it solves all freezes ;) |
| 00:34:22 | spincycle | i tried that, but it did not seem to purchase - i couldn't feel a button go in at all |
| 00:34:39 | spincycle | i pushed pretty hard |
| 00:35:09 | spincycle | i'll try again |
| 00:35:13 | rotator | it's a hardware reset, so either you didn't press it or it's physically broken |
| 00:35:37 | rotator | you shouldn't have to press hard at all |
| 00:38:47 | preglow | surprise for: me |
| 00:38:58 | preglow | i can use far more precision for the shelving filters than i do |
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| 00:39:00 | preglow | huzzah! |
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| 00:39:14 | preglow | rotator: hi, any flac stuff happening? |
| 00:39:16 | spincycle | okay, i found a different instrument to push it and it worked. thanks. obvious.. |
| 00:39:31 | rotator | preglow: been too busy with school lately :/ |
| 00:39:42 | rotator | so no |
| 00:40:30 | rotator | the seeking patch is more or less done, I've had one report of a short left not skipping to the beginning of the track properly |
| 00:40:41 | rotator | but I can't reproduce it so far |
| 00:40:54 | preglow | then i'd say it's ready for commit |
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| 00:41:48 | rotator | I need to look over it a bit more, there may be a little cruft left over from libflac |
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| 00:43:26 | rotator | and it unfortunately seems to suffer a bit more than other codecs when it comes to triggering the seeking backwards near the end of the track bug |
| 00:43:38 | preglow | why? |
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| 00:44:25 | rotator | seeking can overshoot the target a bit initially then need to seek backwards a few frames |
| 00:44:59 | rotator | so, from a user's perspective, even seeking forward near the end of the track can trigger the bug |
| 00:45:41 | preglow | sucks |
| 00:47:03 | rotator | yep, but not much I can do about it |
| 00:47:13 | rotator | I could change the seeking algorithm to never overshoot, but then it's too conservative and much slower |
| 00:47:23 | preglow | nah, just forget that |
| 00:47:25 | rotator | but that really not the proper solution |
| 00:47:34 | preglow | it's my understanding that metadata on buffer is going to solve that issue for good anyway |
| 00:48:15 | rotator | that's what I understand too. is lostlogic coming back to work on playback anytime soon? :> |
| 00:48:23 | preglow | he said he plans on coming back |
| 00:48:24 | amiconn | preglow: How? |
| 00:48:36 | preglow | amiconn: no idea, that's just what lostlogic says |
| 00:49:42 | amiconn | From my understanding the problem with seeking near the end of a track is that the codec is already done with it, and the codec thread switched to the next track |
| 00:49:51 | preglow | yup, that's why |
| 00:49:54 | amiconn | I can't see how metadata on buffer would change taht |
| 00:49:55 | preglow | don't ask me how it's going to solve it |
| 00:50:37 | * | preglow writes his first rockbox doxygene comment |
| 00:51:14 | rotator | are there plans to start using doxygen? |
| 00:51:23 | preglow | nope |
| 00:51:36 | preglow | i just noticed a couple of function headers i had that just look prettier when formatted like doxygen does |
| 00:51:42 | amiconn | preglow: Hehe, in fact hwcodec may have the very same problem with very low-bitrate tracks |
| 00:51:44 | rotator | heh, ok :) |
| 00:53:54 | preglow | i've found out that i use too many bits for absolutely nothing in the eq shelving filters |
| 00:53:56 | preglow | so i'll do a small update |
| 00:54:38 | markun | preglow: the wma patch will have to wait (unless someone else does it) |
| 00:54:48 | preglow | ok by me |
| 00:54:59 | amiconn | preglow: Speaking about too many bits - some part(s) in the core seem(s) to use 64 bit arithmetic including division. I wonder whether that's avoidable... |
| 00:55:27 | preglow | might be |
| 00:55:54 | preglow | what part of the core? |
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| 00:56:12 | preglow | eq.c is pretty much dependent on it |
| 00:56:36 | preglow | i'm no fixed point expert, so feel free to have a look |
| 00:57:11 | amiconn | Seems like it's dsp and eq |
| 00:57:29 | amiconn | Oh, and metadata |
| 00:57:29 | preglow | yes, like i said eq.c pretty much needs the division to maximise accurace |
| 00:57:32 | preglow | accuracy |
| 00:57:42 | markun | Why do all the codecs have two codec_api structs? (rb and ci) |
| 00:57:56 | preglow | markun: leftover stuff, and because of DEBUGF |
| 00:58:03 | amiconn | It's only one struct, but 2 pointers |
| 00:58:04 | preglow | i tried to remove much of it a while ago |
| 00:58:16 | amiconn | (or even just a #define'd alias) |
| 00:59:25 | preglow | now, to my surprise, even peaking filters waste a bit |
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| 01:02:29 | amiconn | Wow, the 64 bit division routines are >1KB of code each (signed and unsigned) on coldfire... |
| 01:02:36 | preglow | yup |
| 01:02:38 | preglow | big monsters |
| 01:02:44 | preglow | i suspect they're horrible inefficient |
| 01:04:01 | preglow | amiconn: i think those routines are written in c these days... |
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| 01:05:39 | hardeep | amiconn: sorry, was afk. regarding the problem you reported, why would the seed need to be saved in .playlist_control? in case of insert shuffled, we specify the index where the track is inserted so resume should work correctly |
| 01:07:44 | amiconn | Also when inserting a folder shuffled? |
| 01:08:53 | hardeep | amiconn: no, in that case we use the dirplay mode and the seed is saved as part of the shuffle command |
| 01:09:08 | amiconn | Hmm.... |
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| 01:09:41 | amiconn | Did you try to reproduce the effect? |
| 01:10:00 | hardeep | i was just about to. you're right about needing to set the seed, that part i will fix |
| 01:10:09 | hardeep | but it should be a pretty simple fix |
| 01:11:37 | amiconn | preglow: Even the 64 bit multiplication is sub-optimal. I have a version that needs 22 instructions and no branch, the gcc version needs 25 insns including one branch (not counting the register saving and operand fetching) |
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| 01:12:51 | preglow | amiconn: i know, did you submit that to them? |
| 01:12:58 | amiconn | No |
| 01:13:02 | preglow | you should |
| 01:13:13 | amiconn | I don't think I'll ever submit code to the gcc project myself |
| 01:13:15 | preglow | i sincerely doubt they'd care, but hey... |
| 01:14:04 | preglow | amiconn: i wonder how huge the arm 64 bit divide is... arm even needs to emulate the basic 32 bit divide |
| 01:14:14 | amiconn | I'll check |
| 01:15:12 | amiconn | 1416 bytes (signed) / 1324 bytes (unsigned) |
| 01:15:35 | preglow | not too bad |
| 01:15:47 | preglow | the coldfire one really has to be lousy then |
| 01:15:54 | amiconn | 320/272 bytes for 32 bit (s/u) |
| 01:16:58 | amiconn | Coldfire has that built in (and it even gets used since the -m5206 change) |
| 01:17:08 | preglow | yup |
| 01:18:21 | amiconn | SH1 needs less code due to its basic division support |
| 01:18:32 | amiconn | (less code than arm that is) |
| 01:18:39 | preglow | but yeah |
| 01:18:52 | preglow | does any of the code with 64 bit arithmetic run on sh1? |
| 01:19:03 | amiconn | Not in the core |
| 01:19:12 | preglow | then ok |
| 01:19:14 | amiconn | I meant the 32 bit division |
| 01:19:18 | preglow | can't say i care much then |
| 01:19:27 | preglow | we won't be rid of most of it on swcodec anyway |
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| 01:24:03 | * | amiconn wonders why spacerocks needs floating point and 64 bit multiplication .... |
| 01:24:09 | preglow | hahahahahha |
| 01:24:45 | * | amiconn greped for 'muldi3' in the .map files |
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| 01:35:17 | rotator | heh, finally got around to testing the most recent musepack commits |
| 01:35:29 | preglow | should be sweetness |
| 01:35:32 | rotator | even my q10 files no longer boost |
| 01:35:40 | preglow | i know, it rockbs |
| 01:35:47 | rotator | and seeking works great :p |
| 01:36:11 | rotator | it must be pretty competitive with mp3 now |
| 01:36:20 | preglow | 'tis indeed |
| 01:36:33 | preglow | snowgoon did wonders |
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| 01:36:48 | rotator | that he did |
| 01:37:31 | preglow | looks like we've got ourselves a new more precise fsin and fcos |
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| 01:51:39 | hardeep | amiconn: looks like that fixes the problem. resume's working fine |
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| 02:16:28 | vertic23 | hey, some party people awage? :) |
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| 02:40:17 | safetydan | preglow, did you find out what that Remez stuff was in the fixed point code I linked to yesterday? |
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| 02:55:20 | ROBO-CUT | elo |
| 02:56:10 | ROBO-CUT | any ideas how to start my ipod nano after installing rockbox? it all looked fine and then i turned it off and now i cant start it :| |
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| 03:05:53 | Soap | does it need a good charging? |
| 03:05:56 | * | Soap nods |
| 03:06:14 | Soap | Or do you just need to press the select button. |
| 03:06:27 | Soap | I'll give you 13:2 odds it is one of those two. |
| 03:08:02 | ROBO-CUT | hehe |
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| 03:08:14 | ROBO-CUT | im not sure |
| 03:08:24 | ROBO-CUT | the select button? |
| 03:08:49 | Soap | center |
| 03:08:58 | ROBO-CUT | yeah nothing happens |
| 03:09:06 | Soap | give it a good charge. |
| 03:09:09 | ROBO-CUT | and when i plug it in the usb its still all dead |
| 03:09:14 | scorche | or menu+select |
| 03:09:16 | Soap | paitence my son |
| 03:09:19 | ROBO-CUT | shouldnt it be like "dont disconnect" or something? |
| 03:09:20 | scorche | sounds like charging |
| 03:09:22 | ROBO-CUT | ok |
| 03:09:28 | ROBO-CUT | ill let it charge then hehe.. thanks |
| 03:09:36 | Soap | nanos apparently don't like the deep discharge |
| 03:09:42 | ROBO-CUT | ok |
| 03:09:51 | Soap | they act all funky |
| 03:10:01 | ROBO-CUT | hm weird |
| 03:10:18 | scorche | videos act pretty funky on low battery too |
| 03:10:21 | scorche | well, 5gs |
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| 03:34:18 | preglow | safetydan: not what it was, no, but it works just fine |
| 03:34:24 | preglow | safetydan: beats the cordic code pretty nicely |
| 03:35:21 | markun | preglow: got wma to compile now with a lot of warnings. Will work on it some more. |
| 03:35:41 | preglow | markun: cool |
| 03:35:45 | preglow | i'll go work on sleeping some |
| 03:35:57 | markun | Should do that too |
| 03:36:13 | linuxstb | markun: Do you think it's committable? |
| 03:36:18 | markun | no way |
| 03:36:54 | markun | but you can take a look at it later |
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| 03:56:50 | gopp | hey one question |
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| 03:57:01 | gopp | why does the 8 gig ipod cost the same as teh 30 gig ipod |
| 03:57:03 | gopp | ???? |
| 03:57:07 | gopp | I know hardware cost |
| 03:57:10 | gopp | but consumer wise |
| 03:57:22 | gopp | I mean consumer would benfit from 30 gig |
| 03:57:24 | gopp | if same price |
| 03:57:34 | Galois | I'd rather have the 8GB |
| 03:57:38 | gopp | why |
| 03:57:42 | Galois | it's smaller, the battery lasts longer, and it never skips |
| 03:57:56 | gopp | oh the 30 gigs skips |
| 03:58:11 | Galois | the 30 gig doesn't really skip, but it can |
| 03:58:59 | gopp | it laptop hd in that device |
| 03:59:02 | gopp | am I correct or no |
| 03:59:13 | gopp | and nano is flash based |
| 03:59:37 | Galois | the 30 GB one has a hard drive quite a bit smaller than the ones in laptops |
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| 05:19:40 | old45 | I have compressed a bunch of files using Flack Frontend and did not have a check in the ogg-flack box. If I had put a check in there would more programs be able to play my files? |
| 05:20:03 | old45 | FLAC |
| 05:20:11 | old45 | Flac |
| 05:21:28 | Galois | checking ogg-flac usually reduces compatibility |
| 05:21:50 | old45 | That is not good |
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| 05:23:43 | old45 | Galos> what is the check mark do? Does it make the files ogg and flac? |
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| 05:37:42 | patbam | hi, i'm thinking of installing rockbox on a 4th generation ipod with ubuntu dapper. when i run dmesg, i see all the lines in the docs, but i also see " Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods" −− is that something to be concerned about? |
| 05:38:24 | RaiderX | ok nvm my question |
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| 07:07:25 | unperson | Hi, rockbox newbie here. I'm a bit confused, if I'm using Rockbox on a Archos Ondio (flash based) player, is it still the case that there's a seperate boot loader ROM memory to flash? |
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| 10:04:23 | Quazgaa | x5 rockbox crashed on me today ;| |
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| 11:22:08 | amiconn | Bagder: The only build server still using the problematic gcc 4.1.2 snapshot is farsan.haxx.se. So upgrading that server to the latest snapshot will get rid of the synth.c warnings in the build table |
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| 11:34:50 | markun | preglow, linuxstb: I made a patch against current cvs (with conflicts). Maybe you have more luck because my 'fixed' version doesn't work very well. |
| 11:35:13 | markun | I'm talking about the WMA patch btw |
| 11:35:48 | amiconn | Does the whole, unchanged thing work? |
| 11:36:57 | markun | I couldn't get it to compile without updating |
| 11:38:20 | JdGordon | yay! zxbox is in cvs :) |
| 11:38:29 | JdGordon | do we need to get roms/equiv for it? |
| 11:38:58 | pixelma | JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginZXBox |
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| 11:39:24 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 11:39:38 | JdGordon | i'm asuming the roms are about the same legality as gameboy roms? |
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| 11:40:28 | markun | ok, the wma2wav decoder worked in my 'fixed' version but decoding 3 seconds takes a few minutes running at 100% CPU |
| 11:41:08 | linuxstb_ | markun: Wow... |
| 11:41:41 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Spectrum games seem to be legally available here: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/ - they've gone to the effort of seeking permission from the publishers. |
| 11:41:43 | markun | linuxstb_: I might have done some things wrong while fixing the conflicts (and getting the code to compile) |
| 11:42:07 | markun | linuxstb_: btw, the test was done in the simulator |
| 11:42:21 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ah cool |
| 11:42:28 | linuxstb_ | markun: Something must be wrong then... |
| 11:42:38 | JdGordon | sim city! :D |
| 11:42:41 | markun | linuxstb_: can you take a look at it? |
| 11:43:02 | markun | most of the conflicts are easy to fix |
| 11:43:16 | linuxstb_ | markun: Yes, I will do. |
| 11:43:27 | JdGordon | http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0002937 <- if this is the game i tinhk it is... i loved it on pc! |
| 11:43:47 | linuxstb_ | JdGordon: Was the spectrum popular in Australia? |
| 11:44:02 | JdGordon | linuxstb_: no idea.. ive never heard of it before... before my time |
| 11:44:17 | JdGordon | whats the speed like on the h300? |
| 11:44:39 | markun | linuxstb_: marsdaddy used .wam as the file extension, should be .wma right? |
| 11:44:40 | linuxstb_ | It's probably slow - there's been no effort to optimise it for the Coldfires afaik. |
| 11:45:51 | linuxstb_ | markun: Yes, but Rockbox already accepts wma as a music file extension (for playlist building on iriver), so I think that's why he avoided it. He possibly wasn't aware of the "open with" viewer option. |
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| 11:48:28 | linuxstb_ | markun: You said last night that it wasn't suitable for CVS - was that just because of the warnings? Or are there other things you think are preventing it? |
| 11:49:11 | linuxstb_ | I know it doesn't work well, but I think putting it in CVS is the best way for collaborative development. |
| 11:49:19 | markun | because of the warnings and because it didn't compile without changes |
| 11:49:59 | linuxstb_ | So if someone cleaned it up to compile without warnings, then you wouldn't object? |
| 11:50:07 | markun | For example there were some problems with the typedefs of uint64_t etc which he didn't need to define himself anyway |
| 11:50:18 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I noticed those, and will remove them. |
| 11:50:31 | markun | No, I wouldn't object at all |
| 11:51:56 | perplexity | linuxstb_: the Spectrum had a reasonable userbase in Aus, I think it was much bigger in the UK. The C64, Apple ][ were a bit bigger though.. |
| 11:52:25 | proog | even though i use rockbox on my ipod almost all the time, i still use the apple firmware for watching videos. yesterday i updated the apple firmware when i installed itunes 7, and now, rockbox wont boot at all! |
| 11:52:48 | linuxstb_ | proog: You'll need to reinstall the Rockbox bootloader - upgrading the apple firmware will wipe it. |
| 11:53:12 | proog | just follow the manual again? |
| 11:53:14 | Quazgaa | can i watch gayporn on rockbox? |
| 11:53:17 | linuxstb_ | proog: Yes. |
| 11:53:42 | Quazgaa | i want to have gaysex while watching gayporn on rockbox |
| 11:53:44 | proog | thanks, linuxstb_ |
| 11:53:46 | Quazgaa | is this possible |
| 11:54:17 | markun | Quazgaa: only without sound |
| 11:54:23 | Quazgaa | haha |
| 11:54:25 | Quazgaa | yeah no joke |
| 11:55:04 | markun | Quazgaa: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 11:55:16 | markun | Quazgaa: or do you want to watch images? |
| 11:55:31 | Quazgaa | markun: do you know lots about gayporn? |
| 11:55:48 | Quazgaa | i admire expertise in any field |
| 11:55:54 | markun | no, sorry |
| 11:55:56 | * | scorche wonders where Bagder is... |
| 11:56:30 | * | markun too |
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| 11:57:38 | Quazgaa | Bagder |
| 11:57:43 | Quazgaa | that sounds like a gayporn stagename |
| 11:57:50 | Quazgaa | "Yeah, I bagder" |
| 11:57:52 | Quazgaa | well |
| 11:57:58 | Quazgaa | maybe it should be Bagdim |
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| 11:58:15 | markun | Quazgaa: about your 'crash while changing tracks at the end of the file' I think I've hearded something like that before |
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| 11:58:28 | Bagdim | yeah |
| 11:58:35 | JdGordon | .. but your a kunt so we wont bother fixing it :D |
| 11:58:44 | Bagdim | when it crashed it gave a "codec failure" message |
| 11:58:51 | Bagdim | and then froze |
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| 11:59:26 | Bagdim | spurious error message or not i dunno |
| 11:59:32 | Bagdim | was playing oggs at the time |
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| 12:07:07 | Soap | Bagder - so what device do you have, and what version of Rockbox are you running? |
| 12:07:13 | Soap | excuse me |
| 12:07:21 | Soap | Bagdim I mean |
| 12:07:44 | Bagdim | x5 |
| 12:07:47 | Bagdim | cvs 9/10 |
| 12:08:13 | Soap | on ogg? |
| 12:08:14 | Soap | hmm |
| 12:08:30 | Bagdim | yeah |
| 12:08:38 | Soap | bitrate? |
| 12:08:41 | Bagdim | most of my files are ogg |
| 12:08:51 | Bagdim | not sure if the behavior is same for other codecs |
| 12:09:00 | Bagdim | q6 i think |
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| 12:09:38 | Soap | I never skip tracks, so I can't say I've had a chance to see this behavior. |
| 12:10:14 | ze | yeah skipping tracks towards the end doesn't sound like a typical scenario :p |
| 12:10:31 | ze | 5 seconds left "ok now i'm sick of this track" |
| 12:10:33 | ze | :p |
| 12:10:37 | Bagdim | hahaha |
| 12:10:46 | Bagdim | well it usually more like |
| 12:10:59 | Bagdim | "i dont necessarily want to listen to this track ALL DAY, but maybe one more time" |
| 12:11:03 | Bagdim | :p |
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| 12:11:11 | ze | heh |
| 12:14:08 | Soap | I'm an album type. I believe an album is a sacred collection, and should only be listened to as a whole. |
| 12:14:37 | Bagdim | yeah |
| 12:14:39 | ze | some albums are made that way |
| 12:14:45 | Bagdim | mostly when the album itself is sacred |
| 12:14:48 | ze | then again some albums are just an ad-hoc collection or tracks |
| 12:14:51 | ze | s/or/of/ |
| 12:15:46 | Bagdim | maybe in my seedy old age ive simply acquiesced to listening to less than sacred albums |
| 12:16:11 | Bagdim | in my younger days it was strictly album-through listening |
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| 12:20:04 | proog | to update rockbox (on ipod) to the newest build, do i just replace the rockbox.ipod file? |
| 12:21:35 | scorche | and the folder (in case something was added to that) |
| 12:21:37 | linuxstb | proog: No, you should unzip the entire rockbox.zip file onto your ipod. |
| 12:21:43 | proog | ok |
| 12:22:13 | linuxstb | markun: Did you get problems with the sin/cos not being found? |
| 12:22:20 | linuxstb | ^sin/cos functions |
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| 12:26:16 | markun | linuxstb: no |
| 12:26:46 | linuxstb | Did you compile for a target or just the sim? |
| 12:26:48 | markun | but I have some files complaining about AVOption not being found before I included the right header file |
| 12:27:04 | markun | I compiled it for the gb sim |
| 12:28:00 | markun | I'll try the ipod 5g |
| 12:28:29 | linuxstb | I just commented out the definition of AVOption, and that fixed those warnings. |
| 12:29:14 | linuxstb | I've just compiled for a sim, and it worked. So it's still needing floating point sin/cos functions - but those are just used to initialise a table, so we should pre-generate that table. |
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| 12:30:38 | linuxstb | BTW, I didn't look at your patch, I just took marsdaddy's tarball and copied the new files and folders to a current CVS tree, and changed the Makefiles appropriately. |
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| 12:38:05 | markun | linuxstb: he also implemented a more complex malloc. Is it needed? |
| 12:39:05 | linuxstb | Maybe - if his code is using malloc and free a lot. But we should try and get rid of all mallocs. |
| 12:39:36 | linuxstb | Trying the wma2wav plugin just gives me the following splashes (repeating): "Fail 2351", "Fail 2892", "Ret from 2010" |
| 12:41:09 | Lear | Tremor could use a better malloc... |
| 12:41:42 | linuxstb | markun: Did he change the malloc in the codeclib? If so, I didn't incorporate that in my version. |
| 12:42:27 | markun | yes, he did |
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| 12:53:47 | desowin | are there precompiled builds with scrobbler support for ipod mini 2nd gen ? |
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| 12:55:53 | webguest47 | JdGordon: have you seen this thread, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6337.0 seems you broke the viewer bookmark |
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| 12:57:09 | webguest47 | seems that you broke it at v1.32 |
| 12:58:33 | linuxstb | desowin: Have you looked in the "Unofficial Builds" forum at http://forums.rockbox.org ? |
| 12:58:33 | webguest47 | JdGordon: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/viewer.c |
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| 12:59:57 | linuxstb | markun: Once I incorporated the new malloc, it's working, but VERY slowly... |
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| 13:00:14 | linuxstb | Hopefully that's just debugging messages slowing it down. |
| 13:01:08 | amiconn | I don't expect 64bit fixed point to be fast... |
| 13:01:49 | linuxstb | On a 2.8GHz Xeon? |
| 13:02:15 | linuxstb | I'm just trying it in the sim... |
| 13:02:34 | amiconn | ah |
| 13:02:48 | desowin | linuxstb: I found this http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5695.msg47565#msg47565 but there's no mini 2nd gen build |
| 13:03:02 | linuxstb | It still needs floating point sin/cos (during initialisation), so doesn't build for the target. |
| 13:03:52 | linuxstb | desowin: You should post in that forum asking if the person compiling the builds can create a mini 2nd gen build. Or learn to compile yourself - there's plenty of documentation available. |
| 13:04:39 | desowin | I'll compile it by myself then |
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| 13:36:06 | desowin | can I get older cvs snapshots ? (audioscrobbler patch doesn't apply with newest one) |
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| 13:36:41 | Bagder | desowin: use cvs to checkout a suitable date |
| 13:38:46 | * | linuxstb wonders if a lack of inlining is the speed problem for the WMA decoder |
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| 13:48:54 | webguest72 | Any progress with the Sansa reverse engineering then? |
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| 13:53:57 | synic | hrmm... any particular reason that having the TagCache on auto update would constantly say "Tag cache is not read" when I add new files and try to browse? |
| 13:54:07 | synic | then when I reboot... /only/ the new files show up |
| 13:54:43 | Febs | Time to burst some Head-Fi bubbles: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2370172&postcount=89 |
| 13:55:56 | Soap | For those who think that merely turning on the hardware EQ improved the sound, you apparently enjoy large amounts of bass and treble boost. |
| 13:56:16 | Febs | You like that? |
| 13:56:16 | Soap | _that_ is going to send some of them into super-duper-defensive-mode. |
| 13:57:01 | Febs | That's OK. It is the truth. |
| 13:57:30 | * | Febs pictures Jack Nicholson screaming at the Head-Fiers, "you can't handle the truth!" |
| 13:57:31 | Soap | I'm waiting for some lenghty/crazy descriptions of how that can't be the case, and there was some other (obscure) explanation for what they heard. |
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| 13:58:26 | Soap | I missed the discussion on the three middle peaking filters. Why are they not working? |
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| 14:05:05 | linuxstb | Soap: No-one knows... We don't have the exact datasheet for the audio codec chip, so have been working with one that (up to now) has proved to be 100% compatible. So either those filters don't exist on the chip in the 5gs, or they are accessed differently, or there's a silly bug no-one has noticed. |
| 14:05:46 | * | linuxstb goes to read the datasheet again |
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| 14:11:42 | preglow | hahaha |
| 14:13:55 | preglow | my oh my |
| 14:14:09 | linuxstb | ? |
| 14:15:32 | Soap | Ahh, so it's not like they /were/ working and now aren't. It is that the assumption was they were working based on the assumed compatibility with the known chip, and then later discovered they weren't. |
| 14:15:50 | Soap | That's where I was confused. |
| 14:17:14 | * | safetydan looks innocent |
| 14:17:19 | safetydan | the data sheet lied I tell you |
| 14:18:34 | * | linuxstb notices wma2wav writing a logfile which is growing rapidly to 100s of MBs... |
| 14:18:46 | linuxstb | I guess that explains the lack of speed. |
| 14:19:34 | Febs | Perhaps we should change the labels on the hardware EQ from "Peak Filter 1" to "Placebo Filter 1" etc. |
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| 14:20:24 | safetydan | or more seriously, remove the menu and make them treble and bass boost/cut |
| 14:20:29 | safetydan | and on that note |
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| 14:25:07 | preglow | linuxstb: does it decode audio at all? |
| 14:25:22 | linuxstb | Yes, something is coming out... |
| 14:25:23 | preglow | linuxstb: also, did you alter markuns tree any? |
| 14:25:42 | linuxstb | I've done it independently from markun. |
| 14:26:00 | linuxstb | I just copied the new files/folders from marsdaddy's tree and added them to a current CVS tree. |
| 14:26:01 | preglow | oh |
| 14:26:06 | preglow | what about posting a patch? |
| 14:28:11 | linuxstb | I will do - I want to fix the biggest issues first though. But I think I'm there now. |
| 14:29:25 | preglow | niceness |
| 14:32:16 | linuxstb | Ah yes, disabling the debug out now means the wma2wav plugin in the sim is almost running realtime on my 2.8GHz Xeon... |
| 14:32:23 | linuxstb | ^debug output |
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| 14:34:56 | preglow | haha |
| 14:35:23 | preglow | so what you're trying to say is that it'll need some optimisation?? |
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| 14:35:50 | linuxstb | Just a tweak here and there... |
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| 14:49:42 | Jazz00006 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6536 if some one with plugin write experience could take a look at the fore me please i would be enernally greatfull :) |
| 14:50:21 | Jazz00006 | eternally greatfull* |
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| 14:57:23 | markun | linuxstb: will you also try to get of the ffmpeg stuff in the WMA decoder like you did for FLAC? |
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| 14:58:48 | markun | linuxstb: btw, we found a JTAG connector on the Gigabeat PCB! |
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| 15:02:44 | linuxstb | markun: Yes, I'll probably have a go at removing more of the ffmpeg stuff. It's harder for WMA though - it uses both the asf parser and the wma decoder. For FLAC, the container format is extremely simple, and I just wrote my own parser based on the documentation, so I didn't need that part of ffmpeg. |
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| 15:11:15 | linuxstb | preglow: Can you test that this compiles for the sim before I upload it to the patch tracker? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/wma.diff |
| 15:11:29 | linuxstb | Trying to compile for the target should fail due to lack of floating point sin/cos |
| 15:11:59 | linuxstb | There are still lots of warnings - all I've done is fix the errors. |
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| 15:13:37 | JdGordon | amiconn: re the adding the bokkmarking back into viewer.rock... are you going to do it or should i nut it out now? |
| 15:15:37 | linuxstb | preglow: I forgot a file in that patch, just uploading a replacement now... |
| 15:15:56 | linuxstb | preglow: Done. |
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| 15:21:05 | markun | JdGordon: how do you think it should work? Just create a .tmark file or something in the same folder? |
| 15:21:23 | markun | I think you could copy/reuse most of the code from bookmark.c |
| 15:22:11 | JdGordon | markun: amicons suggestion (which im gonna code coz its the easiest) is keep a lru list of past files at the end fo the config, |
| 15:22:46 | JdGordon | i tinhk after it works the config file should be changed to a text file... or atleast the preferences should be text.. even if the bookmark part is binary |
| 15:23:07 | linuxstb | How did it work in the past? |
| 15:23:33 | JdGordon | each file stored the preferences seperatly |
| 15:24:05 | JdGordon | I origionally changed it to have a default file.. whoever commited it changed it to one file.. which broke the bookmarking |
| 15:27:12 | preglow | linuxstb: where? |
| 15:27:32 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/wma.diff |
| 15:28:03 | preglow | why not on the tracker? |
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| 15:29:35 | linuxstb | preglow: I'm asking you if you can test it before I upload to the tracker... |
| 15:30:49 | linuxstb | But please wait 10 seconds, I just noticed another missing file... |
| 15:30:59 | linuxstb | OK, all good again now. |
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| 15:40:17 | JdGordon | does memcpy() complain if the size param == 0? |
| 15:42:08 | Lear | The C version doesn't... |
| 15:42:50 | JdGordon | asm? is it better if i check it first? |
| 15:45:26 | Lear | Had a quick look at the coldfire one, but it is more than 600 lines, so I can't answer that by a quick look... :) |
| 15:45:43 | JdGordon | ha ok |
| 15:47:52 | Lear | but it seems ok... |
| 15:48:27 | * | JdGordon is freeking impressed... first time ever i think my code compiled first go! |
| 15:48:37 | JdGordon | .. or i compiled the wrong folder :p |
| 15:49:59 | JdGordon | woopsies... missed the compile log.. i did get errors... |
| 15:52:30 | JdGordon | yay! segfault |
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| 15:56:09 | kernel_i386 | hehe |
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| 16:14:43 | JdGordon | does gdb not handle plugins well or something? |
| 16:14:56 | JdGordon | its refusing to stop at my breakpoints... it just says its there but continues |
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| 16:28:12 | thegeek | JdGordon : make sure there are symbols in the file |
| 16:28:12 | thegeek | also |
| 16:28:18 | thegeek | is this on linux or windows? |
| 16:29:08 | JdGordon | linux, and its the rockbox rocks... which is confusing me |
| 16:31:08 | thegeek | ;P |
| 16:31:28 | thegeek | I had that exact problem on windows, had to download the latest mingw gdb for it to work |
| 16:32:06 | * | JdGordon starting prince of persia in zxbox on h300 :D |
| 16:32:16 | JdGordon | .. taking a while to load the image tho |
| 16:32:31 | JdGordon | stuck at 33% :'( |
| 16:32:47 | linuxstb | You mean it's running at 33% speed? |
| 16:32:53 | linuxstb | Or it's stuck... |
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| 16:33:19 | JdGordon | the loading (?) screen... its a black screen with 34% at the top |
| 16:34:20 | JdGordon | Machine typeZX Spectrum 128K <- thats proably why! |
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| 16:34:46 | linuxstb | I guess so... |
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| 16:37:14 | JdGordon | i dont suppose there is railroad tycoon on the spectrum? |
| 16:39:21 | JdGordon | these hgames are older than me! |
| 16:41:25 | PaulJam | I have found two bugs in the textviewer, should i create two seperate bugreports, or should i put them in the same flyspray task? |
| 16:49:01 | * | JdGordon cant work this @ 1am! |
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| 16:59:35 | synic | anyone know about the status of this bug? I am having the same problem. |
| 16:59:37 | synic | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6236.0 |
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| 17:51:39 | PaulJam | Could someone who uses a cvs build try to reproduce a bug for me? (i'm too lazy to install a cvs build to test this) |
| 17:53:12 | PaulJam | in the radio screen navi/select brings up the stations list. if i hold navi/select on a station in this list nothing happens with my build (it should bring up a context menu) |
| 17:56:21 | PaulJam | and another thing: when i have changed the stations list and leave the radio by pressing the stop key the screen that asks if the changes should be saved only flashes for a half second without giving the cahnce to save the preset list. |
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| 18:02:06 | Lear | What should that context menu contain? |
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| 18:11:10 | Lear | Hm.. Seems the radio screen is in need of converting to using actions... |
| 18:11:20 | Lear | At the very least for the menu callbacks. |
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| 18:41:31 | leftright | anyone with flyspray authority here ? |
| 18:42:48 | leftright | could you please change the category of bug report 6006 from Battery/Charging to Playlist |
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| 18:55:09 | leftright | Bagder, tomas, Zagor, Linus ^^ |
| 18:55:18 | leftright | thanks |
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| 19:08:29 | retro_neo | if anyone here as a video iPod, could you please test these files on it, and tell me if they play? and which one you think is best : http://cdn1.leweb2zero.tv/download/karl_704506dd99ede20.mp4 http://cdn1.leweb2zero.tv/download/karl_704506dd99ede20__2.mp4 http://cdn1.leweb2zero.tv/download/karl_704506dd99ede20__3.mp4 |
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| 19:21:36 | webguest95 | looks like the build table is hanging |
| 19:23:17 | webguest95 | hardeep, could you change the category of bug report 6006 from Battery/Charging to Playlist please, thank you |
| 19:23:34 | hardeep | webguest95: linuxstb already did |
| 19:23:42 | hardeep | webguest95: are you dunno? |
| 19:23:58 | webguest95 | thank you |
| 19:24:29 | webguest95 | seems like the function of "Insert" is little understood by many :) |
| 19:24:59 | webguest95 | yes thats me |
| 19:25:20 | hardeep | webguest95: so, you were inserting tracks one at a time into your playlist? |
| 19:25:30 | hardeep | as opposed to inserting a directory and/or playlist |
| 19:25:53 | webguest95 | intially 3 then one at a time to figure out the Insert function |
| 19:26:11 | hardeep | webguest95: how did you insert the initial 3? |
| 19:27:06 | webguest95 | Insert three consecutively |
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| 19:27:25 | hardeep | okay, then the behaviour is as expected |
| 19:27:47 | webguest95 | yes thats what I thought, but folks are fighting it :) |
| 19:28:22 | webguest95 | I started a thread in the forum, and Paul/Llorean disagrees as well |
| 19:28:24 | hardeep | yeah, i've responded to the bug report and forum post |
| 19:28:38 | webguest95 | ah cool :) |
| 19:29:05 | webguest95 | thanks for clarifying this |
| 19:30:39 | webguest95 | perhaps a good explanation of the Insert menu should be "stickied" or placed in the manual, to alleviate confusion over Insert, as not many folks understand it correctly |
| 19:31:03 | hardeep | yeah, probably a good idea |
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| 19:46:18 | obo | Slasheri: ping? |
| 19:46:45 | Slasheri | obo: pong |
| 19:47:09 | obo | hi - I'm having a problem with create_thread |
| 19:47:21 | Slasheri | hmm, what kind of problem? |
| 19:47:56 | obo | the thread is created, but under OS Stack the value is > 10000, buttons don't respond to well, and the wheel basically doesn't work anymore |
| 19:48:46 | Slasheri | how did you create the thread, and you are probably using an ipod? |
| 19:49:19 | obo | yes, an ipod |
| 19:49:21 | obo | unplug_thread_id = create_thread(unplug_thread, unplug_stack, sizeof(unplug_stack), unplug_thread_name IF_PRIO(, PRIORITY_BACKGROUND)); |
| 19:49:43 | obo | changed the return from an int to a pointer to the struct |
| 19:50:08 | Slasheri | hmm, that seems to be correct. are you creating more threads or just that one thread? |
| 19:50:14 | obo | just one |
| 19:50:18 | obo | (I hope) |
| 19:50:30 | Slasheri | because if you create more, you need to increase the max number of threads |
| 19:51:14 | obo | as declared in thread.h? |
| 19:51:30 | Slasheri | but where in the code did you call the create_thread, or do you have a patch? |
| 19:51:32 | Slasheri | yep |
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| 19:53:09 | obo | http://pastebin.ca/173201 |
| 19:55:04 | obo | created in unplug.c, which is called from settings_apply |
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| 20:00:01 | Slasheri | obo: you yield() in the thread main loop so that keeps the thread always active |
| 20:00:04 | Slasheri | you should sleep instead |
| 20:00:49 | pagefault | hey I love your firmware for my H10, I was just wondering if you guys had any themes or knew where to get any for my player it has a rather odd screen size |
| 20:00:51 | pagefault | 128x128 |
| 20:01:01 | obo | Slasheri: I was using sleep(HZ/4) - still had a very high value (priority?) in the OS Stack screen |
| 20:01:37 | petur | pagefault: there's already one in the wps galery, why not create one yourself? |
| 20:01:38 | Slasheri | obo: do you have one or two numbers in the os stack screen (in the very beginning of the line)? |
| 20:02:01 | pagefault | petur: well I am not so great with graphics, better with programming, but I will attempt :) |
| 20:02:36 | petur | pagefault: the easiest way is to tweak an existing one from another target |
| 20:03:06 | pagefault | ok |
| 20:03:21 | Slasheri | obo: the value after the thread status (one character) is the priority |
| 20:03:32 | Slasheri | it sounds very odd if it's that high |
| 20:04:03 | pagefault | again thanks a lot for your work on this firmware it is so nice to finally be able to play vorbis on this |
| 20:04:20 | obo | It's reading: *R 10420 unplug: 0% |
| 20:04:23 | Slasheri | obo: it should be 8 for PRIORITY_BACKGROUND |
| 20:04:37 | obo | yup - I can't understand what I'm doing wrong... |
| 20:04:42 | Slasheri | ok, that's interesting. At lest *R means that it's using all CPU |
| 20:04:54 | Slasheri | are all other priorities normal? |
| 20:05:16 | obo | yes, the rest look sane - a few others in state R (running??) |
| 20:05:47 | Slasheri | yep, R = running, S = sleeping, B = blocked (woken by external event) and T = blocked with timeout |
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| 20:06:17 | pagefault | is the mp3 decoding done by a hardware chip or entirely by software? |
| 20:06:38 | petur | on h10 it's in software |
| 20:07:05 | pagefault | hmm ok, the reason I ask is I am interested in writing a SPC plugin for my H10 so I can listen to SPC files |
| 20:07:16 | pagefault | so I was just trying to figure out if I will have enough power to even do it |
| 20:07:19 | obo | Slasheri: using sleep instead of yield - it responds now, but my thread isn't doing anything |
| 20:09:37 | Slasheri | do you get any compiler warnings |
| 20:10:22 | obo | nope, clean build |
| 20:10:28 | Slasheri | weird.. |
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| 20:14:27 | obo | if I remove the thread, via the menu entry, it leaves a gap in the OS Stacks screen |
| 20:15:02 | obo | create it again, it's now "S 0 unplug: 4%", and functioning |
| 20:15:36 | Slasheri | hmm, what did you do? |
| 20:16:06 | obo | just used the menu entries in the patch to remove and create the thread |
| 20:16:23 | obo | but it shouldn't have a priority of 0 |
| 20:16:40 | Slasheri | ah.. interesting |
| 20:16:55 | obo | and the first time it was created, it wasn't using any of it's stack space either |
| 20:17:30 | obo | first time was after the settings were applied at boot, from settings_apply |
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| 20:22:18 | kpfleming|laptop | anybody tried rockbox on the new 5G iPods yet? I need to replace my 60GB 4G that was stolen... and i want to get a 5G 80GB |
| 20:22:35 | Ribs | kpfleming|laptop, works okay here |
| 20:22:52 | Ribs | if you liked rockbox on your 4G, you'll like it on your 5G |
| 20:24:01 | kpfleming|laptop | cool |
| 20:24:04 | Bagder | and the new ones are referred to as 5.5G |
| 20:24:08 | kpfleming|laptop | it's only been a few days, and i am depressed :-( |
| 20:24:13 | kpfleming|laptop | ok, 5.5G it is |
| 20:24:30 | Ribs | do 5.5G ones work with rockbox? |
| 20:24:41 | petur | no |
| 20:24:55 | petur | most probably not |
| 20:25:05 | Ribs | are the changes major? |
| 20:26:04 | petur | no idea... |
| 20:26:06 | kpfleming|laptop | ok, so that was my real question... i was referring to the 5.5G models |
| 20:26:23 | Bagder | nobody has tried Rockbox on one yet afaik |
| 20:26:31 | Bagder | and no Rockbox dev has one |
| 20:26:33 | Slasheri | obo: did you try increasing the MAXTHREADS? |
| 20:26:53 | Slasheri | obo: check also the returned unplug_thread_id->priority |
| 20:26:58 | Slasheri | that should be correct at least |
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| 20:27:28 | obo | I'll try that - but just launched the battery_bench plugin, and that thread was created okay |
| 20:28:22 | kpfleming|laptop | ok, i guess i'll take the plunge :-) |
| 20:29:31 | Slasheri | obo: well, i found the problem what might have been wrong.. there was a small bug in remove_thread |
| 20:30:06 | Febs | Slasheri: I've run my 5G for 6 minutes with both crossfeed and software EQ and no skips. |
| 20:30:17 | Slasheri | obo: update to the current cvs and try again |
| 20:30:29 | obo | Slasheri: okay, will do |
| 20:30:34 | Febs | However, scrolling is extremely slow. |
| 20:31:05 | Slasheri | Febs: sounds good, unfortunately i can't do much for the scrolling issue without actual ipod |
| 20:31:20 | Slasheri | Febs: but is the scrolling initially normal and then suddenly slows down? |
| 20:31:23 | Slasheri | if so, that sounds normal |
| 20:31:36 | Slasheri | without slowing it down, audio would skip |
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| 20:33:04 | Febs | Yes, normal scrolling for a few entries and then slowness. |
| 20:33:19 | Slasheri | ok, good |
| 20:33:50 | Slasheri | but maybe the problem might be that the wheel needs to be read more often, and ui thread is not the correct place to do the reading |
| 20:34:16 | Slasheri | because i think ui should start "skipping" but not actually freeze |
| 20:34:38 | Febs | Gotta run. I can test more for you later if it's helpful. |
| 20:34:42 | Slasheri | at least it does that on iriver |
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| 20:38:13 | obo | Slasheri: I think I'm going mad..... |
| 20:38:25 | obo | gui_syncsplash(HZ*2, true, "%d", unplug_thread_id->priority) |
| 20:38:33 | obo | unplug.c:61: error: 'struct thread_entry' has no member named 'priority' |
| 20:40:49 | Slasheri | eh.. |
| 20:41:02 | Slasheri | then that's _really_ weird :D |
| 20:41:02 | obo | yeah, that was my response |
| 20:41:17 | Slasheri | did you include "thread.h"? |
| 20:41:38 | obo | first include |
| 20:42:15 | Slasheri | hmm, what are the priorities for other threads in the debug menu? |
| 20:43:39 | obo | they look okay - all between 4 and 8 |
| 20:44:08 | obo | afk - 15 min |
| 20:46:06 | Slasheri | obo: please try make clean |
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| 20:59:07 | obo | Slasheri: been doing that. It seems to be a issue with the include order - thread.h missing some includes? |
| 20:59:27 | NotAnother | hi all ! i've a little question : |
| 20:59:35 | Slasheri | obo: ah, try include "config.h" first |
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| 21:00:29 | NotAnother | with foobar on my computer i usually give a rating to my song on the tag %rating% from 0 to 5 and it seems that rockbox can't read this tag |
| 21:00:40 | NotAnother | is there another way to read the rating of my music ? |
| 21:00:49 | obo | Slasheri: nope - I didn't have that included to begin with, and still breaks |
| 21:01:17 | NotAnother | because the way autorating rate the music isn't very good (maybe just for me) |
| 21:01:56 | Slasheri | obo: hmm :/ weird that it even compiles |
| 21:02:32 | obo | it doesn't with unplug_thread_id->priority in the code |
| 21:10:21 | obo | Slasheri: adding #include "config.h" to thread.h seems to fix it |
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| 21:12:02 | Slasheri | obo: interesting |
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| 21:16:12 | Slasheri | probably it's then necessary to add that include in thread.h |
| 21:16:30 | Slasheri | what do others think, is it a good idea to include config.h in header files? |
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| 21:24:49 | * | petur spots a div by zero :] |
| 21:31:21 | petur | this is weird... isn't power_history[] updated anymore? |
| 21:31:32 | petur | ah now it is... |
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| 21:32:45 | carlsanman | Anyone here? |
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| 21:33:02 | petur | no ;) |
| 21:33:06 | petur | 125 bots |
| 21:33:12 | KOAP | Really. |
| 21:33:15 | petur | unless you are one too |
| 21:33:17 | KOAP | Someone has too much time on their hands. |
| 21:33:25 | KOAP | Im not a bot *clank* |
| 21:33:32 | KOAP | Is anyone else active? |
| 21:33:40 | * | petur hasn't (too much time) |
| 21:34:25 | KOAP | Is there a trivia bot in here? |
| 21:35:39 | * | petur fixes a div by zero :] |
| 21:36:00 | dionoea | ehlo |
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| 21:37:06 | dionoea | nice ... the threads thing was commited :) |
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| 21:43:32 | lamed | hello |
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| 21:45:54 | NotAnother | hi all ! i've a little question : |
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| 21:46:27 | NotAnother | with foobar on my computer i usually give a rating to my song on the tag %rating% from 0 to 5 and it seems that rockbox can't read this tag ; is there another way to read the rating of my music ? ; because the way autorating rate the music isn't very good (maybe just for me) |
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| 21:50:41 | KOAP | W/e |
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| 22:01:48 | lamed | does someone in here knows the new keymap system? |
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| 22:03:23 | dionoea | the Action stuff ? |
| 22:07:05 | lamed | yeah. I'm trying to figure out why there are two button rows in every table. |
| 22:08:02 | lamed | mmm, that's the _Pre button and stuff |
| 22:08:31 | dionoea | yep |
| 22:09:32 | lamed | could you explain accuratly? I think the second row is the _PRE button check |
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| 22:10:22 | dionoea | first col is the action's id, 2nd col is the button and 3rd is the pre button |
| 22:10:35 | dionoea | if you don't need a pre button you put BUTTON_NONE |
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| 22:11:49 | lamed | figures |
| 22:11:51 | lamed | tt |
| 22:12:19 | lamed | I wonder why haven't he used the original button tables. did he re-do everything from scratch? |
| 22:13:36 | dionoea | most of it was from scratch i think. But button mapping should be the same as before. |
| 22:13:57 | lamed | no, I see lots of flucks |
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| 22:27:31 | DTeam | hi |
| 22:28:04 | dionoea | hello |
| 22:30:50 | DTeam | does rockbox work on nano 2G ? |
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| 22:32:02 | linuxstb_ | DTeam: Almost definitely not. |
| 22:32:48 | DTeam | ok :( |
| 22:33:46 | dionoea | Apple chip ? :) |
| 22:34:28 | dionoea | could that still be portal player ? or did apple design a new SOC ? |
| 22:34:37 | Bagder | samsung |
| 22:36:12 | dionoea | brand new chip ? |
| 22:36:31 | Bagder | not currently supported by us at least |
| 22:36:44 | DTeam | why does it not work ? have they changed many hardware ? |
| 22:37:00 | Bagder | DTeam: they changed the lot pretty much |
| 22:37:18 | DTeam | :s |
| 22:37:27 | linuxstb_ | It's the biggest change since they launched the ipod... |
| 22:37:39 | Bagder | so it will take a new port effort |
| 22:37:40 | DTeam | that's bad i wanted to try rockbox so much |
| 22:38:03 | dionoea | well you can start working on the rockbox port :) |
| 22:38:20 | linuxstb_ | Or buy an old Nano, or any of the other players Rockbox supports |
| 22:38:25 | Bagder | we want hires scans of the internals to start with! |
| 22:39:00 | linuxstb_ | And a copy of the firmware... |
| 22:39:06 | DTeam | lol i don't have much money |
| 22:39:09 | dionoea | Bagder: pics are available on ipod linux wiki i think |
| 22:39:20 | Bagder | good pics? |
| 22:39:29 | dionoea | pretty good ... not spectacular |
| 22:39:33 | dionoea | i'll give you the link |
| 22:39:43 | linuxstb_ | Pictures of chips with Apple logos and part numbers aren't that useful though... |
| 22:39:57 | Bagder | they just link to ilounge |
| 22:40:19 | dionoea | right... not good enough then ? |
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| 22:40:22 | Bagder | no |
| 22:40:33 | Captain_A | markun here |
| 22:40:34 | dionoea | what details would you need ? |
| 22:40:35 | Bagder | you can't see many chip details there |
| 22:40:39 | Captain_A | or any gigabeat users |
| 22:40:50 | Bagder | dionoea: as many markings as possible of all chips etc |
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| 22:46:58 | fannay | Hello? |
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| 22:47:49 | linuxstb_ | Febs: I see no-one has replied to your hw eq post on head-fi... |
| 22:48:53 | fannay | Hello. Does anyone know a tutorial on how to install rockbox if you already have ipodlinux and the new bootloader? Please help |
| 22:49:10 | dionoea | unzip the zip file to you fat partition's root |
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| 22:49:16 | dionoea | and that should be it i guess :) |
| 22:49:27 | dionoea | maybe you need to add an entry to the ipodlinux boot loader |
| 22:50:11 | fannay | Umm I dont know how to do that. Is there a tutorial about that sort of stuff? |
| 22:50:28 | linuxstb_ | No, the loader will auto-detect rockbox.ipod - unless you've created a config file for the bootloader, in which case you probably know how to add a Rockbox entry.. |
| 22:50:49 | linuxstb_ | fannay: Just unzip rockbox.zip to your ipod, and that should be enough. |
| 22:51:06 | dionoea | else you can use http://www.google.com/search?q=dual+boot+rockbox+ipodlinux :) |
| 22:51:09 | Captain_A | i've been thinking that the bootloader would be a good idea |
| 22:51:25 | Captain_A | but i have< 30 gb space left on my hdd |
| 22:51:27 | DTeam | is there a way for me to skin my nano 2g ? (cutom firmware) |
| 22:51:46 | Captain_A | and have like 28 gb of files on my pod |
| 22:51:46 | fannay | Thank you :] |
| 22:51:50 | fannay | will try now |
| 22:52:09 | dionoea | DTeam: considering the fact that it's been less than a week since they released those ... i doubt it :) |
| 22:52:19 | DTeam | ^^ |
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| 22:54:05 | Captain_A | anyone think they could ballpark how much i'd get on ebay for a 2 month old 5g, minor scuffing on the back andno screen scratches, an iblaster orb that is also < 2 months old, a car charger, wall charger, ipod-tv cable, original box and sync cable? |
| 22:54:20 | fannay | So I dont need to install anything just need to place the rockbox.zip file in my iPod root? |
| 22:54:36 | dionoea | unzip it :) |
| 22:54:45 | fannay | Oh ok thanks |
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| 22:59:28 | Febs | linuxstb, I think that people are too busy debating whether lossless compression sounds different from .wav, and what jitter sounds like. |
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| 23:00:05 | linuxstb_ | The big issues... |
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| 23:07:47 | arow | hello |
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| 23:12:47 | arow | is there any way i can use my remote control delivered by my docking station (Ipod nano) |
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| 23:15:12 | dionoea | arow: the infra red remote ? |
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| 23:18:36 | arow | yes |
| 23:19:21 | dionoea | well it's not possible to use it yet. But i'd love to know how to do it. Unfortunately i only have the dock but no remote so it's kind of hard to test here :( |
| 23:20:03 | dionoea | (paying 40 euros for the remote is kind of ... expensive) |
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| 23:24:47 | arow | i understand |
| 23:25:07 | arow | but my docking station was only 30 euro :) |
| 23:25:39 | dionoea | wasn't it 40 ? |
| 23:25:52 | arow | nope, its not the apple one |
| 23:26:07 | dionoea | oh, ok |
| 23:26:19 | arow | but the volume up and volume down does work |
| 23:26:39 | arow | the rest doesn't function, although it does respond on it |
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| 23:31:34 | fannay | Im back, I did what you said to unzip rockbox.zip into my ipod root but it doesnt appear in my bootloader |
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| 23:32:39 | * | jhMikeS wonders if the topic is about Viagra |
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| 23:41:53 | * | petur reads the global notice and suddenly feels very cold |
| 23:42:04 | petur | I ride my bike to work every day |
| 23:42:13 | dionoea | ouch :/ |
| 23:42:20 | Bagder | scary indeed, yes |
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| 23:47:50 | scottder | When will rockbox support the 2G Shuffle? |
| 23:48:03 | Bagder | shuffle? |
| 23:48:08 | Bagder | never |
| 23:48:11 | scottder | kiddin ;) |
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| 23:49:13 | scottder | I want Doom on shuffle! |
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| 23:49:34 | dionoea | hehe :) |
| 23:50:55 | * | scottder is holding out for whatever 8gb flash player works first :) |
| 23:51:22 | Bagder | both are still far away |
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| 23:52:31 | * | scottder is patient :) |
| 23:52:53 | linuxstb_ | Can't you put a CF card in an ipod mini? |
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| 23:53:32 | jhMikeS | guess we're not going to have simple ints for thread ids anymore even though nothing should prevent it. don't know why the thread_entry must be public in nature. |
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| 23:54:25 | petur | feel free to change... |
| 23:54:59 | Bagder | I don't see why an int or a pointer matters |
| 23:55:51 | petur | you're exposing what it is pointing to |
| 23:56:15 | Bagder | true, but I don't see the harm in that here |
| 23:56:16 | jhMikeS | IMHO those structures should only be directly manipulated by thread apis...besides declarations of the thread "id" are more tedious...suppose I like things hidden |
| 23:56:32 | petur | aka HANDLE |
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| 23:57:32 | jhMikeS | Thread functions can cast it back to a pointer variable...I doubt gcc would generate any actual code to do it. |
| 23:58:21 | jhMikeS | Maybe I'm just full of stupid hangups?? |
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