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| 01:23:13 | dpassen | Anyone know why flashing the latest rockbox.iriver on an H140 results in incompatible version? |
| 01:27:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | You mean the flash plugin tells you that? |
| 01:27:46 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm *guessing* because you're running an old version of Rockbox from flash, and your flashing plugin is newer than it. |
| 01:27:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | Have you tried ROLOing into the new Rockbox.iriver first? |
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| 01:33:51 | naltrus | hi |
| 01:36:34 | markun | hello naltrus |
| 01:37:09 | naltrus | somebody knows if rockbox will support to Philips HDD6320 ? |
| 01:37:43 | markun | maybe, but we haven't found a key to decrypt the firmware |
| 01:37:59 | markun | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
| 01:39:40 | markun | we need a .bl file for you player (I don't know much about this) |
| 01:39:49 | markun | Is there such a file on it? |
| 01:39:49 | naltrus | thanks markun. I have already seen before in this page. |
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| 01:40:42 | markun | are there pictures of the chips on the HDD6320 available? |
| 01:41:08 | naltrus | but it is very difficult to find the key to decipt the firmware? |
| 01:42:51 | markun | not if you have a .bl file |
| 01:43:16 | markun | otherwise I don't know how difficult it is |
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| 01:44:16 | markun | You can ask Bagder if you come back a bit earlier (most people in europe are asleep) |
| 01:44:24 | Rudy4Pez | Haha, nice topic. |
| 01:44:31 | naltrus | and where can be found the file bl? in the device? |
| 01:44:47 | markun | maybe, I don't know |
| 01:44:57 | naltrus | thanks markun |
| 01:46:53 | markun | Without a developer with such a device there will be no port. Is there a forum of HDD63xx users where you can ask for help? |
| 01:47:40 | markun | I'm off to sleep. Good luck |
| 01:47:55 | amiconn | Trademark issues? With tetrox? |
| 01:47:59 | naltrus | ye markun |
| 01:48:07 | amiconn | Sorry I don't get it... |
| 01:48:13 | naltrus | bye markun |
| 01:48:21 | Rudy4Pez | Hey can any other image format besides .jpg be viewed in Rockbox? |
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| 02:19:30 | Soap | _Lucretia_ my reflection |
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| 02:57:42 | pagefault | the latest firmware for the h10 is outstanding thanks guys |
| 02:57:50 | pagefault | no more skipping with that latest wps |
| 02:58:10 | rigel | pagefault: can you get peak monitoring during playback? |
| 02:58:18 | rigel | i just updated |
| 02:58:20 | pagefault | sadly no |
| 02:58:22 | rigel | but havent tried it |
| 02:58:23 | rigel | damn |
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| 02:59:04 | pagefault | no skipping at all with icatcher wps though |
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| 03:00:49 | pagefault | would be nice to see the tuner supported sometime |
| 03:00:53 | pagefault | but it's not a priority |
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| 03:03:42 | rigel | hm. some of those wps files come up weird on mine |
| 03:03:49 | rigel | or did before i updated |
| 03:04:05 | pagefault | well the screen is 128x128 |
| 03:04:11 | pagefault | many players are not that size |
| 03:04:33 | rigel | oh, the icatcher comes up nicely now |
| 03:04:36 | rigel | sweet |
| 03:04:44 | Soap | that is a small screen. |
| 03:04:44 | pagefault | they need to be resized to work on the h10 |
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| 03:05:01 | pagefault | h20 is 160x128 |
| 03:05:05 | pagefault | or something like that |
| 03:05:12 | pagefault | so those theme look off |
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| 03:07:20 | pagefault | it's pretty much a beef up ipod nano |
| 03:07:27 | pagefault | it shares a lot of the same hardware |
| 03:09:16 | pagefault | iriver is hopeless with firmware though |
| 03:10:29 | rigel | why does rockbox not do usb |
| 03:10:45 | rigel | i have to put it into emergency mode when i want to transfer files |
| 03:10:47 | Soap | the USB chip isn't documented |
| 03:10:48 | pagefault | it does |
| 03:10:53 | pagefault | turn it off |
| 03:10:57 | pagefault | connect the usb |
| 03:11:00 | pagefault | then turn it on |
| 03:11:12 | rigel | emergency connection does, or yeah, using the iriver firmware |
| 03:11:19 | pagefault | or do you have a US model? |
| 03:11:22 | rigel | what usb chip is it, are there pics? |
| 03:11:26 | rigel | i have a us model, yes |
| 03:11:36 | pagefault | you should flash to euro model |
| 03:11:38 | pagefault | UMS device |
| 03:11:41 | amiconn | USB has to be done in software on the PP |
| 03:11:43 | rigel | its a 20g |
| 03:11:45 | rigel | not a 5gb |
| 03:12:06 | rigel | i can get it as a UMS by using the emergency mode |
| 03:12:12 | rigel | which is how i transfer files all the time |
| 03:12:22 | amiconn | (1) we have no USB stack in rockbox. (2) there is no documentation about how the USB part of the PP works |
| 03:12:36 | rigel | maybe an updated firmware that always uses the ums emergency shit? i never use the MTP or whatever it is |
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| 03:13:09 | pagefault | I updated my 5gb model to UMS firmware from MTP |
| 03:13:13 | pagefault | so it always boots to UMS |
| 03:13:23 | amiconn | Many other supported targets use a dedicated USB-ATA (or USB-MMC) bridge chip, which we just need to enable |
| 03:13:37 | rigel | pagefault: there is no corresponding firmware for the 20gb |
| 03:13:40 | pagefault | ahh |
| 03:13:57 | rigel | afaik |
| 03:14:01 | pagefault | that sucks |
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| 03:14:54 | amiconn | So USB on PP targets (i.e. iPods and H10) is left to the OF or emergency disk mode for now |
| 03:16:33 | pagefault | I feel your pain MTP is slow and annoying |
| 03:16:55 | rigel | pagefault: i see no point in it whatsoever |
| 03:17:04 | rigel | i dont use windows media player, on general principle |
| 03:17:16 | pagefault | it was only put there so they can sell you DRM songs |
| 03:17:20 | rigel | plus, most of my mp3s are on a server i scp to |
| 03:17:30 | rigel | with mtp, i cant change the iriver to the destination |
| 03:17:37 | rigel | right |
| 03:17:42 | rigel | i avoid drm |
| 03:19:50 | pagefault | I try to |
| 03:19:53 | pagefault | I do buy from audible |
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| 03:20:04 | pagefault | but I convert to vorbis |
| 03:20:25 | Soap | and you don't get artifacts? |
| 03:20:33 | pagefault | not really |
| 03:20:34 | pagefault | it's voice |
| 03:20:41 | pagefault | not much quality to begin with |
| 03:21:28 | pagefault | sounds pretty much like the original |
| 03:21:39 | pagefault | would be nice to have a native codec but that will probably never happen |
| 03:22:02 | rigel | anything i want i can find on giganews, pretty much |
| 03:22:24 | Soap | We don't discuss copyright infringement here |
| 03:24:12 | rigel | did i admit to infringing copyright? i wouldnt say so. |
| 03:24:55 | rigel | anyway. |
| 03:26:45 | pagefault | what do you guys use normally to sync your players |
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| 03:29:17 | Soap | I forgot how USENET was a hotbed of legit-music distribution. |
| 03:29:49 | pagefault | hah |
| 03:29:58 | pagefault | maybe alt-1920s |
| 03:30:08 | pagefault | I think the copyright on that stuff is ok |
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| 03:32:06 | Soap | sad thing is some of that has had the copyright renewed. |
| 03:32:49 | pagefault | sucks |
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| 03:34:25 | pagefault | hmm |
| 03:34:42 | pagefault | there is some stuff on archive.org |
| 03:34:47 | pagefault | cylinder transfer |
| 03:36:40 | Soap | yea, there are a lot of great concerts on archive.org also. Recent concerts by bands who allow taping. |
| 03:38:08 | pagefault | I think it's great when bands post their songs on the net first because personally thats how I find them |
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| 03:40:40 | Soap | This has wandered off topic, my bad. That's why I created #rockbox-social. Though that channel is about empty, I'd like to see it fill up and improve the signal-to-noise ratio here. |
| 03:41:19 | pagefault | ah ok sorry about that |
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| 03:44:05 | Davide-NYC | any news on WMA decoding? |
| 03:45:01 | Adam | alright i need some help and maybe some1 can help me. right now i have a video iPod with rockbox and no apple and im trying to restore apple for battery life reasons.... i have foobar and foo_pod and is there a way i can rebuild the database so when i boot into apple i will be able to navigate all my songs without making duplicates, right now ive got all my songs on my iPod in folders such as ARtist and so on |
| 03:45:25 | Soap | how do you have rockbox and no apple firmware? |
| 03:45:33 | Adam | i deleted apple firmware lol |
| 03:45:41 | Soap | ok |
| 03:45:43 | Adam | i can still boot into it, but the songs arent there because i deleted the db |
| 03:45:55 | Adam | know what i mean now? |
| 03:46:45 | Soap | as I understand, the apple database /can/ work with songs you add manually to the HD of the ipod, but is _severely_ limited as to path/filename length, so the odds are you will not be able to build the itunes database from songs you added to your player's filetree. |
| 03:47:15 | Soap | ahh, so you didn't delete the applefirmware, you just deleted all your songs from the ipod database and it's funky ipod_control folder. |
| 03:48:50 | Soap | Someone else can probably answer what the maximum filename length is for songs to be added to the itunes database, but my suggestion would be to remove all your music added "filetree" style for rockbox, and readd through foo_pod. Then when you want to use RockBox you can access those songs through tagcache instead of filetree browsing. |
| 03:48:51 | Adam | ive heard the limit is 127 characters |
| 03:48:53 | Adam | not that limited |
| 03:49:28 | Davide-NYC | *cough* UMS |
| 03:49:38 | Davide-NYC | (sorry) |
| 03:49:41 | Soap | you are right, 127 isn't /that/ limiting. I have a couple longer, but not my majority. |
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| 03:51:44 | Soap | \music\Lenny Bruce - 2004 - Let The Buyer Beware (Disc 1) (When The Good Road Is Closed, The Bad Road Will Never Be Open)\07 - Introduction To The Palladium Annie Ross What Was I Talking About.mp3 |
| 03:51:49 | Soap | wouldn't make it. |
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| 03:55:05 | Davide-NYC | anyone know anything about WMA decoding? I'm willing to do testing. |
| 03:55:17 | Davide-NYC | Who's working on it (if anyone) |
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| 04:09:03 | Adam | alright. |
| 04:09:10 | Adam | well its working halfway lol |
| 04:09:42 | Adam | when i open my iPod on iTunes all my songs are there and they play because i rebuilt the DB.... but when i try on my iPod all the songs are they but they just skip to the next one |
| 04:09:46 | Adam | they dont play |
| 04:09:53 | Adam | any ideas soap? |
| 04:10:50 | Davide-NYC | Anyone with CVS access willing to do a really simple fix? |
| 04:11:17 | Davide-NYC | the font win_crox6hbo is totally broken and should be removed |
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| 04:27:08 | buzzard | hi |
| 04:27:25 | buzzard | is anyone there |
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| 04:29:54 | Adam | yeah im here |
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| 04:31:22 | buzzard | hi |
| 04:31:25 | buzzard | is anyone there |
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| 04:31:40 | actionshrimp | (03:30:12) (Adam) yeah im here |
| 04:31:44 | buzzard | hi |
| 04:31:49 | buzzard | i have a question |
| 04:31:56 | Adam | what |
| 04:32:05 | buzzard | how do i put album art into my music |
| 04:32:19 | Adam | on rockbox? |
| 04:32:22 | buzzard | yea |
| 04:32:36 | Adam | are u using a theme that supports album art? |
| 04:32:42 | buzzard | yea |
| 04:32:47 | Adam | what theme |
| 04:33:09 | buzzard | jclix |
| 04:33:35 | Adam | well u'll need to download an id3 editing program and add the pictures to the files |
| 04:33:46 | buzzard | hhm |
| 04:33:53 | Adam | but the theme will probably require u to have the pictures a certain size first |
| 04:34:00 | Kalthare | what? I'm pretty sure that's not how it works O.o |
| 04:34:01 | buzzard | ohh |
| 04:34:07 | Adam | if they are to big or to small they might not display |
| 04:34:08 | JdGordon | album art cant be in the mp3 |
| 04:34:18 | JdGordon | it has to be cover.bmp or something in the folder |
| 04:34:26 | Kalthare | It's supposed to be a 100x100 bmp in the folder, isn't it? |
| 04:34:36 | buzzard | it dosn't intergrate like in the itunes |
| 04:34:41 | Adam | lol gordan it can be in the mp3 actually, ive got close to 600 songs like that |
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| 04:34:47 | Adam | oh alright |
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| 04:35:24 | Kalthare | Do you still need to use a patch to get album art to work? |
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| 04:35:38 | Adam | i dont know i dont bother with it |
| 04:35:40 | Adam | lol |
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| 04:39:21 | Davide-NYC | Question about WPSes: is there a way to *force* a particular font for a .wps or .rwps? |
| 04:39:40 | Davide-NYC | I would love to force the rwps to use sysfont |
| 04:40:08 | JdGordon | i dont think so |
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| 04:42:17 | Davide-NYC | JdGordon: bummer |
| 04:42:21 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 04:42:39 | JdGordon | although... it could be possible by hacking he coe |
| 04:42:42 | JdGordon | code* |
| 04:43:32 | Davide-NYC | please tell me more, I am very curious and am *lightly* hacking code as we type |
| 04:43:38 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 04:43:50 | Davide-NYC | what files do I look at? |
| 04:44:00 | JdGordon | gui/gwps*.c |
| 04:44:41 | Davide-NYC | that includes gwps-common? |
| 04:44:45 | JdGordon | ye |
| 04:44:56 | JdGordon | i tihnk the actual drawing code is in gwps-commin |
| 04:45:22 | Davide-NYC | I'll take a look |
| 04:45:39 | Davide-NYC | I don;t want too much, I just want sysfont forced on the remote |
| 04:46:04 | Davide-NYC | say, would you do everyone a favor and remove the wincrox6hbo font from source? |
| 04:46:16 | Davide-NYC | it's totally "F"ed up |
| 04:46:24 | Davide-NYC | and make RB look unprofessional |
| 04:46:29 | JdGordon | ha, no ill leave that to someone else |
| 04:46:29 | Davide-NYC | *makes |
| 04:46:40 | Davide-NYC | it's driving me nuts |
| 04:46:44 | Davide-NYC | haha |
| 04:46:51 | JdGordon | so dont use it? |
| 04:47:07 | Davide-NYC | that's not the point, if someone looks at that they will get a bad impression |
| 04:47:18 | Davide-NYC | I generally use sysfont |
| 04:47:30 | Davide-NYC | the font in question is actually broken |
| 04:48:00 | Davide-NYC | who do I badger? (hint) |
| 04:48:01 | JdGordon | how is it broken? |
| 04:48:06 | Davide-NYC | take a look at it |
| 04:48:28 | Davide-NYC | I think it bump up against the maximum line size or something |
| 04:48:46 | Davide-NYC | but I don;t think the lines should be allowed to become bigger, do you? |
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| 04:49:06 | JdGordon | ah that 1!! haha, yeah, its fucked :D |
| 04:49:07 | Davide-NYC | font in question = win_crox6hbo |
| 04:49:18 | Davide-NYC | please please please DUMP IT. |
| 04:49:43 | JdGordon | not up to me.. i might get in trouble for doing that... |
| 04:49:44 | Davide-NYC | blame on me |
| 04:49:49 | JdGordon | it should be fixed instead |
| 04:50:01 | Davide-NYC | urghh, who the hell needs a font that big |
| 04:50:07 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 04:50:07 | * | Davide-NYC shrugs him shoulders |
| 04:50:21 | JdGordon | you just wait.. in 2 years we will have 14 inch screens on DAPs |
| 04:50:25 | JdGordon | then you will! |
| 04:50:25 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 04:50:34 | Davide-NYC | who do I bug about this? |
| 04:50:51 | JdGordon | i dunno... i guess put it in FS |
| 04:50:57 | Davide-NYC | OK |
| 04:50:58 | Kalthare | Haha, wow, that one IS messed up. |
| 04:51:09 | JdGordon | are any others as bad? |
| 04:51:12 | Davide-NYC | no |
| 04:51:25 | Davide-NYC | it's a bug |
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| 04:54:24 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6031 |
| 04:54:27 | Davide-NYC | done |
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| 05:14:05 | _Lucretia_ | Soap: an old goth |
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| 05:32:29 | JdGordon | w000t! i got dynamic menus working :D |
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| 05:43:05 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: lemme see before I go to bed :) The menus for recording are now excessively dynamic...so will it work for that? |
| 05:43:21 | JdGordon | it shuold |
| 05:43:55 | JdGordon | i have to test on the target tho.. because all menus are treated as dynamic.. which could slow stuff down |
| 05:44:24 | jhMikeS | Any arbitrary set of items can be hidden/removed without rewriting the entire array or something? |
| 05:44:32 | JdGordon | bingo |
| 05:44:58 | JdGordon | it checks each sub item and asks if it shuold be showed.. if there is no callback then it always is |
| 05:45:22 | jhMikeS | Will each item maintain an id too instead of just a position? That would really help a lot. |
| 05:45:42 | JdGordon | what do u mean? |
| 05:46:34 | jhMikeS | Assign an id to identify the particular menu item independent of its index in the array. |
| 05:47:31 | JdGordon | the callback recieves the action and the menu's menu_item_ex struct pointer.. so it can identify itseld |
| 05:47:33 | jhMikeS | of course I can just use the string or function pointer as an id... |
| 05:48:10 | JdGordon | what im going to add is one really big callback that all dynamic items can ptut hemselves in, instead of having a new function for each |
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| 05:48:28 | JdGordon | there is no speed difference on the h300 with this hadnling so its good to go :D |
| 05:48:40 | jhMikeS | all dynamic items in the entire build? :\ |
| 05:49:05 | JdGordon | no, but ones which are just checking one vairbalae... |
| 05:49:10 | JdGordon | recording can have its own :p |
| 05:49:57 | jhMikeS | I'd like to have the option for anything at all...per module/menu/item or whatever. I'll definitely need per menu. |
| 05:51:04 | JdGordon | ok, no prob |
| 05:52:15 | jhMikeS | I'm not sure how you give a known constant to a function to id the item. I'd like to keep the initial list local...but I haven't seen anything yet I guess. :) |
| 05:53:21 | JdGordon | hmm.. just found a bad bug... :( |
| 05:54:56 | JdGordon | no, 2 big bugs |
| 05:54:58 | jhMikeS | at least you found it now instead of after numerous bug reports! :D Did a couple nasty ones in recording. |
| 05:57:22 | JdGordon | :) this is a big one.. it display the right list, but when u go into a menu item it wont acually enter the right one if the menu had any dynamic items |
| 05:57:42 | JdGordon | which was very easy to fix |
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| 05:58:15 | JdGordon | now the only problem is it doesnt like dynamic items in the top level menu |
| 05:58:56 | jhMikeS | how does the compiled size compare to before? |
| 05:59:25 | JdGordon | i checked the recorder 2 days ago and it was 8.4kb smaller, which means rombox builds again |
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| 06:04:00 | rigel | so, to run pacbox, i need to find a .rom? |
| 06:04:06 | rigel | is that how it works? |
| 06:04:22 | JdGordon | no, pacbox needs 5 (6?) special files |
| 06:04:26 | JdGordon | check the wiki for their names |
| 06:04:44 | JdGordon | sweet, dynamic menus really work now! |
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| 06:08:36 | Kalthare | Is anyone working on a 5.5G bootloader? |
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| 06:12:48 | JdGordon | Kalthare: not to my knowledge.... |
| 06:15:13 | jhMikeS | I guess, to be clearer, id like to know the actual item that was selected from a menu and not just the position- same thing for option lists. That will be possible? |
| 06:15:42 | Kalthare | linuxstb, do you still want the 5.5G boot partition? |
| 06:15:43 | JdGordon | yes |
| 06:15:59 | JdGordon | he is proably still asleep... :p |
| 06:16:06 | jhMikeS | cool! :-) |
| 06:16:12 | JdGordon | local time there is like 4 am or something |
| 06:16:18 | Kalthare | oh. :p |
| 06:16:46 | scorche | more like 6 ;)( |
| 06:17:13 | JdGordon | no, 4.. he is gmt.. |
| 06:17:22 | scorche | oh right...he isnt in sweden |
| 06:17:25 | JdGordon | or my maths is off |
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| 06:18:04 | JdGordon | Kalthare: if you can zip up the boot partition and put it on the wiki it would be helpful |
| 06:18:08 | JdGordon | or link to it or something |
| 06:18:27 | Kalthare | JdGordon: Sure. Where do I go for that? |
| 06:18:48 | JdGordon | have u got your own webspace? |
| 06:19:31 | Kalthare | well, yeah, but it's freeshell. I don't want to send a lot of traffic there. |
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| 06:20:06 | Kalthare | It's about fifteen megs, compressed. |
| 06:21:22 | JdGordon | i tinhk the wiki wont let u upload a file that big |
| 06:22:00 | Davide-NYC | I'll host it |
| 06:22:09 | Davide-NYC | wait, do I have 15 MB? |
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| 06:23:59 | JdGordon | i can host it on my uni webspace... if noone else can |
| 06:24:09 | Kalthare | Where on the wiki should it go? |
| 06:24:22 | Davide-NYC | I don;t know if I can push a file that big to my earthlink ftp server |
| 06:24:40 | Davide-NYC | is there a good way to check via ftp? |
| 06:24:43 | JdGordon | forget the wiki... send a messag e to the dev mailing list |
| 06:26:07 | Davide-NYC | gimme 4min to push a 16MB file |
| 06:26:21 | Davide-NYC | if that work I guess there'e enough space. :=P |
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| 06:30:26 | Davide-NYC | bad news |
| 06:30:31 | Kalthare | How much should I expect the file to be downloaded? |
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| 06:31:13 | Davide-NYC | I have no idea how many people receive the devlist emails |
| 06:31:32 | Davide-NYC | I would think not many, but I could be wrong |
| 06:32:01 | Kalthare | Alright, well.. I guess I'll just put it up on my cable connection |
| 06:41:21 | dilinger | yuck |
| 06:41:30 | dilinger | i tried upgrading to a nightly build from last night |
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| 06:41:57 | dilinger | i couldn't even make it through an entire song on my ipod w/out it crashing :/ |
| 06:42:17 | dilinger | so i reverted back to a nightly from june, which is reasonably stable |
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| 06:42:39 | dilinger | it crashes, but only every other album or so |
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| 06:53:02 | hcs | dilinger: what ipod do you have? |
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| 06:54:47 | dilinger | hcs: g4 greyscale |
| 06:54:53 | dilinger | er, 4g |
| 06:54:54 | dilinger | rather |
| 06:55:31 | Davide-NYC | cananyone tell me why I get a patch contains garbage error when trying to apply the wma.diff file? |
| 06:55:37 | dilinger | i'm tempted to rebuild the image w/ some debugging code to see if i can't get it to spit something out when it crashes |
| 06:55:45 | dilinger | but i severely lack time atm |
| 06:55:45 | hcs | I have a 4g color and it crashes a lot, too |
| 06:56:08 | Davide-NYC | If I look at it through a text editor I do not see clean ascii |
| 06:56:30 | Davide-NYC | do I need to use a particular switch when gunziping? |
| 06:57:00 | Davide-NYC | the file is at the bottom of this page |
| 06:57:01 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4984 |
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| 06:57:57 | scorche | dilinger, hcs: it is a known issue and why those units are denoted as "Partial" in the DeviceChart wiki page |
| 06:59:04 | hcs | understood, just commiserating |
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| 07:09:06 | hcs | The question is, is there anything we can do to help stabilize it? |
| 07:10:44 | scorche | i am not really the one to talk to about that...try linuxstb when he gets in (just a guess at a dev) |
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| 07:19:40 | Kalthare | I hope the 5.5G is similar enough to the 5G that it'll be stable when we do get it on there. :/ |
| 07:20:22 | scorche | i havent heard otherwise |
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| 07:25:37 | Kalthare | scorche: well, that's a relief. Thanks. |
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| 07:32:10 | JdGordon | any one know what the state of the h10 port is? |
| 07:32:17 | JdGordon | about the same as any other? |
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| 08:01:25 | Bg3r | JdGordon: i'm not sure whether h10 has even sound ... |
| 08:02:20 | scorche | i got the impression that it worked with the exception of a few plugins |
| 08:02:33 | scorche | with some bugs as well |
| 08:06:32 | Bg3r | ah sorry then |
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| 09:07:08 | theli_ua | anyone knows what country had 44 area code? |
| 09:07:13 | theli_ua | s/had/has |
| 09:07:33 | Pajama-B | the UK |
| 09:07:58 | theli_ua | thanks |
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| 09:11:41 | Pajama-B | I got my Iriver and it was dead :( |
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| 09:16:14 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Does pcm_record still make sure the CPU is always boosted when recording from S/PDIF (h1x0)? |
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| 09:20:03 | * | petur has the feeling the recording rework was maybe not tested enough |
| 09:20:04 | petur | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6589.0 |
| 09:20:29 | petur | now that we were finally getting some trust from tapers for using rockbox |
| 09:20:33 | Pajama-B | It said in the description that it booted and played but had a problem crashing. so I figured jsut change the firmware |
| 09:20:54 | Pajama-B | but it's completely dead. |
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| 09:22:05 | amiconn | petur: Might be a hardware glitch. Disk spinning up too slowly, or failing to seek in time. Perhaps caused by low battery |
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| 09:22:33 | Pajama-B | It gets very warm when I plug it in. |
| 09:22:46 | Pajama-B | Won't turn on at all. |
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| 09:23:12 | Pajama-B | So should I try leaving it plugged in for awhile...? I tried resetting it... |
| 09:23:14 | petur | imho, recording stability should be treated 100x more carefully than playback stability: one glitch ruins a recording and can never be corrected |
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| 09:23:54 | petur | I'm going to test this more before actually using it on saturday to tape a show |
| 09:24:14 | amiconn | Yes, but if it's really the hd, there's not much we can do |
| 09:24:39 | amiconn | He says it was a one-off phenomenon |
| 09:24:46 | LinusN | Pajama-B: i think you have an expensive paper weight |
| 09:24:53 | Pajama-B | lol yes i agree |
| 09:25:22 | petur | amiconn: just because he replaced HDD and battery doesn't mean he says he has a crap HDD and low battery |
| 09:26:10 | petur | any glitch can be the sign of some race condition or timing issue |
| 09:27:23 | Pajama-B | i paid $90 |
| 09:27:42 | Pajama-B | I don't think there's any iriver places near me though |
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| 09:28:35 | * | JdGordon has a new 4gb 1g nano |
| 09:28:41 | JdGordon | about to install rb |
| 09:28:52 | * | JdGordon == /me's sister |
| 09:29:20 | * | petur is also wondering about http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6577.0 |
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| 09:31:29 | * | amiconn didn't try recording at all since the encoding patch went in |
| 09:31:38 | * | petur neither |
| 09:32:03 | * | petur still has a zip with the last known good recording version |
| 09:32:59 | * | amiconn usually doesn't record at all except for testing purposes |
| 09:33:20 | * | petur bought his h340 for taping |
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| 09:33:38 | petur | what a weird way of communicating ;) |
| 09:33:43 | LinusN | petur: then you should have bought a tape recorder |
| 09:33:50 | petur | har har har |
| 09:34:39 | amiconn | I will probably actually use rockbox recording (to wav) soon, just undecided about which unit I should use |
| 09:35:06 | amiconn | If the snr of the iriver is as bad for recording as it is for playback, it probably won't be a wise choice |
| 09:35:25 | * | amiconn will need analog recording |
| 09:35:28 | petur | depends on what you're recording |
| 09:35:48 | hcs | say you're recording waves crashing on a beach... |
| 09:36:03 | petur | I've done rock concerts and theatre, both were very fine |
| 09:36:26 | * | linuxstb downloads the 5.5g boot partition and confirms it's still a portalplayer firmware. |
| 09:37:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Just needs different parsing or whatever when using ipod_fw? |
| 09:37:21 | JdGordon | is it just me, or is rockbox on the nano a bit blurry? |
| 09:37:50 | Paul_The_Nerd | Never looked "blurry" to me, at least. |
| 09:38:51 | Pajama-B | petur what plaer do you have and what microphones you use? |
| 09:38:58 | Pajama-B | player* |
| 09:39:58 | petur | h340 + st9100 mic-amp + cardoids, mic amp and cardoids are made by Chris Church |
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| 09:40:18 | petur | http://stores.ebay.ca/CHURCH-AUDIO |
| 09:40:57 | Pajama-B | i have a church audio preamp, and a sony mzn-707 hoping to convert to the iriver |
| 09:41:02 | petur | I also have a pair of omni's from him but they pick up too much bass and distort during rock concerts |
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| 09:42:10 | Pajama-B | do you use a church preamp or the iriver |
| 09:42:22 | petur | I use the pre-amp |
| 09:42:29 | Pajama-B | cool |
| 09:42:39 | Pajama-B | do you have any examples of loud music |
| 09:43:08 | petur | not in WAV format... |
| 09:43:18 | Pajama-B | that's okay |
| 09:43:20 | petur | here with me I mean |
| 09:43:57 | Pajama-B | oh |
| 09:44:20 | hcs | ok, anyone want to tell me if I'm doing this right, I get a data abort at 4f394, I did an objdump on rockbox.elf, the address corresponded to "add r2, ip, 0x4000" in set_cpu_frequency |
| 09:44:23 | petur | I always record to WAV but convert to mp3 for listening |
| 09:44:28 | Pajama-B | I got some good concerts with the minidisc recorder |
| 09:44:40 | hcs | am I looking in the right place? |
| 09:44:47 | Pajama-B | but I just want another solution so I don't have to line anything in |
| 09:44:48 | JdGordon | how important is it to keep the origianal bootloader partition? it can easily be restored with the ipod software right? |
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| 09:45:14 | hcs | JdGordon: yeah, or if you make a backup you can just put it back on |
| 09:46:28 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just keep the bootpartition.bin file you get from the first step, for easiest restoration and/or installation of a new bootloader and/or retrying if something goes wrong |
| 09:48:08 | hcs | quicker question, is it even possible for an add to cause a data abort? |
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| 09:50:32 | amiconn | hcs: You probably are. (1) This addition should never cause a data abort. (2) Iirc the pc is 2 instructions (8 bytes) ahead of actual execution |
| 09:50:35 | petur | Pajama-B: here's a 320kbps VBR mp3 of a recorded song, the mics we put on the stage in front of the band: http://users.telenet.be/mieke-en-peter/dampendelijven.mp3 |
| 09:50:52 | amiconn | I mean, you're looking at _about_ the right place |
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| 09:51:26 | Pajama-B | thanks |
| 09:51:50 | petur | Pajama-B: don't worry if you don't understand the singer, they only sing in Dutch |
| 09:52:38 | Pajama-B | heh that's okay |
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| 09:52:56 | hcs | amiconn: ah, well 2 instructions up is just an or, but the previous instruction is "str r3, [r1, #32] |
| 09:53:21 | amiconn | Sounds more likely... |
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| 09:59:53 | hcs | bah, I don't know enough arm to do anything useful here |
| 10:00 |
| 10:02:31 | hcs | most of the time when it crashes it just freezes, but occasionally I'll get an error to look at... |
| 10:06:52 | DarthShrine | OMG |
| 10:07:04 | menisk_ | what |
| 10:07:08 | DarthShrine | My favourite podcast is being evil. *cries* |
| 10:07:18 | menisk_ | what podcast |
| 10:07:38 | DarthShrine | Some Triple J one. |
| 10:07:47 | menisk_ | whats it diong |
| 10:08:20 | menisk_ | is it showing an exclamation when u try to dl? |
| 10:08:28 | DarthShrine | The people on it didn't do one this week. Annoying. |
| 10:08:48 | DarthShrine | </Weirdness> |
| 10:08:52 | menisk_ | oh |
| 10:08:55 | menisk_ | meh |
| 10:09:02 | menisk_ | pwnd. |
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| 10:19:59 | mh546 | Hi! Trying to compile the Rockbox development environment with rockboxdev.sh, I get the following error message: |
| 10:20:09 | mh546 | make[3]: Entering directory `/root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc' |
| 10:20:09 | mh546 | /root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc/xgcc -B/root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc/ -B/usr/local/sh-elf/sh-elf/bin/ -B/usr/local/sh-elf/sh-elf/lib/ -isystem /usr/local/sh-elf/sh-elf/include -isystem /usr/local/sh-elf/sh-elf/sys-include -c -o crt1.o -x assembler-with-cpp ../../gcc-4.0.3/gcc/config/sh/crt1.asm |
| 10:20:09 | mh546 | as: Unbekannte Option »-big« |
| 10:20:09 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mh546 |
| 10:20:09 | mh546 | make[3]: *** [crt1.o] Fehler 1 |
| 10:20:09 | mh546 | make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc' |
| 10:20:11 | mh546 | make[2]: *** [extra] Fehler 2 |
| 10:20:13 | mh546 | make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc' |
| 10:20:15 | mh546 | make[1]: *** [stmp-multilib] Fehler 2 |
| 10:20:17 | mh546 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/build-rbdev/build-gcc/gcc' |
| 10:20:19 | mh546 | make: *** [install-gcc] Fehler 2 |
| 10:20:20 | DarthShrine | Erm, pastebin? |
| 10:20:21 | mh546 | done |
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| 10:22:08 | Ed__ | heh - compiler with german localisation |
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| 10:22:29 | JdGordon | how long does the nano take to charge? |
| 10:23:53 | mh546 | Yes, it's the compiler I get with the Debian package system. The first error message reads "as: Unknown option »-big«". |
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| 10:29:21 | theli_ua | anyone with h100 here who can test something for me? |
| 10:30:32 | linuxstb_ | mh546: It sounds like rockboxdev.sh isn't using the correct (i.e. m68k) version of as. Did you get any other error messages before that one? It looks like either the compilation of binutils failed, or the location of the binutils binaries is not in your path. |
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| 10:35:02 | JdGordon | the recent bookmarks menu item shouldnt be in the main menu if bookmarks are disabled right? |
| 10:36:13 | mh546 | oh, yes, I get the same error messages somewhat earlier in the compile process. Unfortunately, my shell's text view isn't large enough to look for even earlier errors. I'll pipe the .sh output into a file and report in some minutes. |
| 10:38:02 | theli_ua | mh546, you better export LC_ALL=C before running this cause i think not everyone understand Deutsch here |
| 10:38:47 | Ed__ | theli_ua: 'unknown option: >>-big<< |
| 10:38:53 | Ed__ | german isn't hard |
| 10:39:00 | Ed__ | (well, not if dutch is your native language) |
| 10:39:16 | theli_ua | Ed__, yeah i saw this i just not sure whether output will contain more errors |
| 10:39:56 | theli_ua | Ed__, and i've studied deutsch about 10 years ago :) |
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| 10:42:28 | mh546 | Thanks, theli_ua, I'll do so. I found an error just at the beginning of the process.: |
| 10:42:44 | mh546 | ROCKBOXDEV: extracting binutils-2.16.1 in /root/build-rbdev |
| 10:42:44 | mh546 | bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly; |
| 10:42:44 | mh546 | perhaps it is corrupted? *Possible* reason follows. |
| 10:42:44 | mh546 | I'll try to re-download. |
| 10:43:10 | theli_ua | that must be it :) |
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| 10:44:53 | theli_ua | i think i had the same error and had to download files by myself elsewhere |
| 10:45:22 | JdGordon | hell yeah :D dynamic menus kick ass |
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| 10:46:31 | * | bluebrother hates dynamic menus |
| 10:47:05 | * | theli_ua thinks of fast dynamic menus when you must move through them quickly ti catsh certain item |
| 10:47:17 | theli_ua | *to catch |
| 10:48:04 | bluebrother | I like the "dynamic" target menu when you use move to from the context menu of a file as it remembers the last used targets. |
| 10:48:33 | bluebrother | but dynamic menus in applications? Or the dynamic start menu? Bleh. |
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| 10:57:05 | pondlife | Dynamic menus could make life harder for the blind. "Press DOWN-DOWN-RIGHT..." etc. instructions may not work any more... |
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| 11:10:04 | bluebrother | a user customizable menu (like "my favorites") might be nice but not auto-rearranging menus |
| 11:14:52 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:20:04 | pondlife | amiconn: I finally got round to that small playlist.c simplification you mentioned last week: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6032 |
| 11:20:39 | pondlife | Because of the types involved I left the &audiobuf[talk_get_bufsize()] in |
| 11:23:06 | pondlife | Slasheri: I have updated my voice fix at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 - this seems to work fine with recording (on H340 at least). |
| 11:23:43 | pondlife | It's still not commit material, until some more testing has taken place. |
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| 11:26:57 | webguest74 | I have a question it does not say any install instructions but were and how do we install the fonts? I clicked on the zip file and un-zipped to desktop with no files |
| 11:27:54 | bluebrother | webguest74, put the contents of the contained folder into /.rockbox/fonts |
| 11:28:02 | bluebrother | maybe that folder is marked hidden. |
| 11:28:16 | scorche | actually, it is best to extract tot he root |
| 11:28:33 | scorche | the archive has .rockbox as its top level |
| 11:28:35 | LinusN | webguest44: the font zip contains the full path |
| 11:28:46 | JdGordon | pondlife: I would assume all blind users would use menu talking anyway, and my dynamic menus, im talking about how they are currently |
| 11:28:49 | bluebrother | scorche, just looked after that ;-) |
| 11:29:33 | pondlife | Are voice menus enabled by default? |
| 11:29:39 | JdGordon | i tinhk so |
| 11:29:41 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 11:29:46 | pondlife | OK, not a problem then |
| 11:30:22 | webguest74 | ok with the one i did zip to my desktop why no files? |
| 11:30:38 | bluebrother | webguest74, I guess the folder is marked hidden |
| 11:30:52 | webguest74 | oh ok i am on a mac just to let everyone know |
| 11:31:01 | bluebrother | aaah. |
| 11:31:24 | bluebrother | the folder starts with a dot (.rockbox), and on unix systems files starting with a dot are hidden files. |
| 11:31:35 | scorche | webguest74: just skip the desktop....extract directly to the root of your device |
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| 11:32:15 | webguest74 | oh so I just download the zip file to ipod and extract |
| 11:32:55 | scorche | webguest74: you can download the zip file anywhere you wish...just direct the extraction directory to the root of your device |
| 11:33:50 | webguest74 | ok thanks vary helpfull |
| 11:34:02 | LinusN | i believe the mac way of doing things is to extract archives to the same directory as the archive |
| 11:34:11 | LinusN | extremely silly imho |
| 11:34:31 | scorche | and there is no option to change the default? |
| 11:34:33 | bluebrother | does "the mac way" include to have no other option? |
| 11:34:36 | webguest74 | so i extract it and it is a folder and inside the folder is another folder called fonts? |
| 11:34:50 | LinusN | webguest44: yes |
| 11:35:01 | LinusN | oops, tab completion :-) |
| 11:35:15 | scorche | for the second time =) |
| 11:35:19 | LinusN | saw that |
| 11:35:52 | LinusN | back when i had a mac, i had a really hard time trying to extract archives where i wanted them |
| 11:35:53 | webguest74 | what should i do? just copy the folder inside the fonts folder to ipod? |
| 11:36:18 | bluebrother | webguest74, copy the archive to the root of the ipod. Extract all files there. |
| 11:36:24 | scorche | LinusN: i am sure they have a shell command... |
| 11:36:33 | LinusN | webguest74: i think the simplest way for you would be to download the archive to the ipod and then extract it there |
| 11:36:38 | bluebrother | afterwards you can remove the archive |
| 11:36:55 | webguest74 | ok done that thanks |
| 11:37:23 | LinusN | scorche: yes, but i'm not sure that the mac has a cmdline version of unzip |
| 11:37:41 | scorche | silly macs... |
| 11:37:46 | LinusN | amen to that |
| 11:38:27 | crwl | it has |
| 11:39:07 | webguest74 | when i click on browse fonts on rockbox nothing happens? |
| 11:40:01 | bluebrother | what is "nothing"? |
| 11:40:34 | webguest74 | I get no font chocies |
| 11:41:05 | webguest74 | have to deal with this later |
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| 11:42:19 | LinusN | i think the default behaviour of the mac unzip tool is to ignore hidden folders |
| 11:42:35 | scorche | ugh....not another stupid behavior.. |
| 11:43:36 | LinusN | ah wait |
| 11:44:13 | LinusN | when he extracts fonts.zip, osx will create a folder with the same name as the zip, i.e "fonts" |
| 11:44:33 | LinusN | which contains .rockbox/fonts |
| 11:44:54 | amiconn | JdGordon: I don't think that the 'recent bookmarks' item should be hidden when the feature is switched off. Maybe there is still a list of bookmarks if the feature was enabled before... |
| 11:44:54 | LinusN | so he must still manually copy the contents to /.rockbox/fonts |
| 11:45:28 | JdGordon | amiconn: ah, thats true, ok |
| 11:47:13 | pondlife | Oops, broke the sim |
| 11:47:15 | pondlife | sims |
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| 11:48:48 | amiconn | pondlife: Yeah, archos can't talk while recording (and the hwcodec sims have no sound output at all) |
| 11:49:06 | pondlife | Correction on the way |
| 11:49:36 | pondlife | The test should have been for CONFIG_CODEC==SWCODEC |
| 11:50:16 | pondlife | Or should an Archos device still allow for talk_get_bufsize? |
| 11:50:55 | amiconn | no |
| 11:51:03 | amiconn | On archos there is no separate talk buffer |
| 11:51:29 | amiconn | The voice file is loaded into the main buffer on request, and flushed when playback needs the buffer |
| 11:51:35 | pondlife | OK, well this may actually fix a bug |
| 11:52:06 | pondlife | Although I expect talk_get_bufsize returns 0 on Archos anyway |
| 11:54:37 | mirak9 | amiconn I did some changings based on what we discussed http://pastebin.com/790451 , so now I try as much as possible to load with a movem. you might check my approach |
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| 11:56:23 | pondlife | Hmm, I get an eror building for the recorder: alpine_cdc.c:1131:15: invalid suffix "c" on integer constant |
| 11:56:32 | mirak9 | I use the byte reversing routine to be able to write a long word in one shot, I am not sure if it's worse it for writting. But I am convinced now it's faster to burst read |
| 11:56:35 | pondlife | s/eror/error |
| 11:59:25 | mirak9 | I gained some speed by doing that. Does gcc try to optimise memory reads ? |
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| 12:01:16 | LinusN | mirak: you mean combine byte reads into longs? |
| 12:01:27 | LinusN | i doubt it |
| 12:01:37 | naltrus | somebody is working in the file bl for PhilipsHDD6320? rockbox will support HDD6320? |
| 12:02:14 | LinusN | naltrus: not that i know of |
| 12:03:05 | markun | naltrus: did you check if it's on your player? |
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| 12:07:18 | naltrus | the HDD6320 player it's very closed with MTP (not UMS) and only can acces to partition of data. |
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| 12:07:57 | JdGordon | the nano charging is hardware controlled ye? its safe to hack a usb plug onto a 7.5v 1A wall charger and use that to charge it instead of a usb port? |
| 12:08:27 | LinusN | JdGordon: 7.5V sounds a little high |
| 12:08:38 | LinusN | since usb is only 5v |
| 12:08:48 | JdGordon | it says 5v-30v on the back of it |
| 12:08:56 | markun | naltrus: perhaps the hdd could be put in a USB enclosure to get to the data.. |
| 12:08:58 | JdGordon | of the nano that is |
| 12:09:36 | Hadaka | oh yeah, does rockbox work with the new ipod nano btw? |
| 12:09:47 | LinusN | no |
| 12:10:07 | Hadaka | okay - is there probably going to be a lot of porting to do? |
| 12:10:10 | LinusN | Hadaka: long time no see |
| 12:10:32 | Hadaka | LinusN: yeah, same to you - my archos finally broke down permanently :/ |
| 12:10:37 | markun | naltrus: can you open up your player and take some pictures? |
| 12:11:10 | Hadaka | and I'm drooling for an 8 GB nano atm. |
| 12:11:46 | LinusN | Hadaka: 8gb nano instead of a 20gb archos? |
| 12:12:31 | Hadaka | LinusN: well, my archos was upgraded to a 40gb - but yeah, I've gone off the idea of keeping all my mp3's on a portable device as it is prone to breaking down and I can't get big enough hard drives anyway |
| 12:12:54 | naltrus | yes. I can access to all data (music, pictures, ....) with USB. bu the player use MTP to access USB and i can't not access to the real disc and this bootloader. |
| 12:13:11 | spiorf | LinusN, do you know what has changed in new ipods? |
| 12:13:25 | LinusN | spiorf: totally new platform |
| 12:13:36 | LinusN | a samsung chipset instead of portalplayer |
| 12:14:30 | spiorf | it's a problem of porting or it is not powerful enough to, for example, play videos? |
| 12:14:36 | Hadaka | but I hear those have 256Mb of SDRAM :) |
| 12:15:31 | LinusN | spiorf: it will be very hard to port, since we have nearly no information at all about the samsung chips |
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| 12:15:42 | pondlife | Hmm, can anyone please try building a DEBUG build for the H300? |
| 12:16:00 | pondlife | It fails here; I don't think it's my fault either (for a change) |
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| 12:16:15 | spiorf | so good that i bought the OLD ipod nano |
| 12:16:22 | Hadaka | hmmh, I'll have to reconsider though... if it might be that there will be no rockbox for it for quite a while... |
| 12:16:34 | jonno | grrr... bloody comp reset when i plugged it in! |
| 12:16:42 | LinusN | Hadaka: you can make it happen :-) |
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| 12:17:12 | Hadaka | LinusN: heh, not that good in embedded stuff |
| 12:17:45 | LinusN | pondlife: h300 debug build? |
| 12:17:48 | pondlife | Yes |
| 12:18:01 | LinusN | who uses iriver debug builds? |
| 12:18:14 | * | JdGordon very occasioannly |
| 12:18:17 | Hadaka | I wonder though what the processor is really like on the new nano |
| 12:18:22 | pondlife | Well, I'd like to! |
| 12:18:23 | LinusN | i would be surprised if it worked |
| 12:18:28 | pondlife | It doesn't |
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| 12:18:59 | LinusN | my guess is that it misses the debug() function |
| 12:19:03 | pondlife | I have some very useful code for tracking wayward cpu_boosts |
| 12:19:15 | LinusN | am i correct? |
| 12:19:24 | pondlife | Plenty of errors |
| 12:19:29 | pondlife | debug_init is the first! |
| 12:19:35 | spiorf | LinusN, do you have a link with new nano specification? like chipset, ram etc |
| 12:19:43 | pondlife | main.c:298: undefined reference to `debug_init' |
| 12:19:48 | pondlife | for example |
| 12:19:52 | LinusN | the debug builds are only for serial port debugging with a cross gdb |
| 12:20:05 | JdGordon | so, if it says rated 5-30v trying a 12V powerpack shouldnt be a problem right? |
| 12:20:14 | LinusN | and i believe it only works on the archos, and maybe the ifp |
| 12:20:28 | LinusN | JdGordon: well, if it says so... |
| 12:20:29 | pondlife | I don't want to lose this code, but don't want to upset amiconn by making the binary bigger for what is essentially a debugging feature |
| 12:20:29 | tucoz | I wonder what chatzilla does each time i enter this channel. I get a "[ERROR]You need to be an operator in #rockbox to do that." |
| 12:20:49 | daurnimator | heh |
| 12:20:56 | daurnimator | chatzilla does that everywhere |
| 12:21:03 | tucoz | aha. Ok |
| 12:21:05 | pondlife | Having said that, it might be useful for general users who notice they are boosted and wantr to know why |
| 12:21:08 | daurnimator | - but i don't use it |
| 12:21:09 | daurnimator | ;) |
| 12:21:14 | LinusN | pondlife: nobody builds debug builds |
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| 12:21:21 | tucoz | I only use it when I am using windows |
| 12:21:31 | daurnimator | i use mirc in windows or kvirc in linux |
| 12:21:38 | daurnimator | - in kvirc now |
| 12:21:38 | LinusN | except for me and t0mas, and occasionally amiconn |
| 12:21:40 | pondlife | Fair enough. So I'll make this a patch for all builds... |
| 12:21:49 | LinusN | and then it is only for archos and ifp |
| 12:21:55 | tucoz | I like xchat in linux |
| 12:22:02 | * | LinusN too |
| 12:22:08 | daurnimator | have you tried kvirc? |
| 12:22:08 | amiconn | LinusN: The coldfire does have a serial port, correct? |
| 12:22:13 | LinusN | yes |
| 12:22:15 | markun | hi tucoz, you are one of the manual maintainers, right? |
| 12:22:20 | tucoz | markun: right |
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| 12:22:31 | LinusN | and the h-series have nice pads on the pcb to connect it |
| 12:22:32 | amiconn | tucoz: Did you try HydraIRC? |
| 12:22:39 | * | amiconn likes that irc client most |
| 12:22:43 | tucoz | Is that for windows? |
| 12:22:55 | amiconn | yes |
| 12:23:01 | * | LinusN goes to lunch |
| 12:23:33 | tucoz | hmm. Well, chatzilla works fine for my needs. Guess i could take a look at hydrairc |
| 12:23:41 | JdGordon | will the nano even charge if only the power pins are connected? |
| 12:23:54 | daurnimator | tucoz: try kvirc |
| 12:23:59 | daurnimator | windows & linux (i think) |
| 12:24:18 | tucoz | oh. But if it is similar to mirc, then I don't like it :) |
| 12:24:30 | xorAxAx | irssi rocks |
| 12:24:33 | xorAxAx | on every platform |
| 12:24:37 | markun | tucoz: the iriver H1x0 manual installation section assumes people are using windows |
| 12:24:44 | daurnimator | its not really like mirc |
| 12:25:02 | * | markun likes irssi too |
| 12:25:04 | tucoz | i am looking at the kvirc site now |
| 12:26:33 | amiconn | irssi is a text mode client? |
| 12:26:54 | DarthShrine | Yes. |
| 12:26:57 | tucoz | markun: ok. then we should add linux install instructions. I think we left those out at the time, because you'll have to download the source to be able to use them. |
| 12:28:56 | tucoz | We also have to add the flash section to h120/h140 manual sometime. But I think that will have to wait until the official bootloader is supporting flashing |
| 12:31:12 | tucoz | which reminds me. That is one place where the h100 and h120 differs. The h120 supports flashing atm, but the h100 does not. |
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| 12:31:15 | daurnimator_ | hmm |
| 12:31:26 | daurnimator_ | xchat is too... lacking in options? |
| 12:31:41 | tucoz | well, i am not that much of an irc user |
| 12:32:08 | tucoz | so it suits my needs |
| 12:33:24 | daurnimator_ | na |
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| 12:33:27 | daurnimator_ | i don't like it |
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| 12:33:53 | tucoz | markun: but the fwpatcher can be run from linux as well, by using wine. Maybe we should mention that |
| 12:36:10 | amiconn | Why does the h100 not support flashing? |
| 12:38:50 | tucoz | I don't know. Just thought I read that in the flashing instructions |
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| 12:39:15 | tucoz | And I do not think that Slasheri can verify that it works, without an actual h100 |
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| 12:53:46 | Arathis | just updated to the latest rockbox (H10), but tetrox is still there. oO |
| 12:54:06 | Arathis | I have tetrox and rockblox in my plugin list |
| 12:55:16 | tucoz | Arathis: if you delete .rockbox/rocks/tetrox.rock, it will be gone forever |
| 12:56:19 | tucoz | So, rockbox does not distribute tetrox anymore |
| 12:56:28 | Arathis | xD |
| 12:57:02 | Arathis | of course it's still there though only copied the new files on the player |
| 12:57:44 | Arathis | btw: what is the best way to update to a new rockbox build without deleting the configs and highscores? |
| 12:58:36 | tucoz | does the zip contain highscores? I thought those were created on target |
| 12:59:31 | tucoz | I just unzip the rockbox.zip to the root of my player. But I keep a config that i run when the config block is changed. |
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| 13:30:01 | Pezcore | Hi, i read somewhere that i could just remove all folders from my ipod, including the music folder, only leave rockbox on there, and then copy the music folder back onto my ipod, would that work? |
| 13:31:15 | LinusN | why would you do that? |
| 13:31:32 | markun | LinusN: to get rid of the itunes mess |
| 13:31:46 | LinusN | ah |
| 13:31:49 | markun | I guess |
| 13:31:59 | markun | Pezcore: yes, should work |
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| 13:32:02 | Pezcore | i read it on some forum, would it work though? |
| 13:32:04 | Pezcore | alright |
| 13:32:11 | Pezcore | can i still add songs with my iTunes though? |
| 13:32:30 | Pezcore | without removing rockbox ect. |
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| 13:34:21 | Pezcore | and do i just copyu the rockbox.ipod file onto the ipod as well as the .rockbox folder |
| 13:34:31 | markun | just extract the whole zip |
| 13:35:05 | Pezcore | and delete all other folders? apart from music, which i'll copy back onto it when rockbox is um..installed? |
| 13:35:26 | markun | Well, doesn't iTunes require this music folder? |
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| 13:36:03 | Pezcore | i think so, which is why i'm curious if i can still add songs and such with iTunes after i've installed it, or if itunes will delete it itself |
| 13:36:21 | markun | you probably can't add new songs with iTunes |
| 13:36:53 | Pezcore | oh well, how do i control rockbox though? |
| 13:36:57 | Pezcore | on my ipod itself? or? |
| 13:37:09 | markun | control? |
| 13:37:23 | Pezcore | well, yeah, to add all those fancy themes and whatnot |
| 13:40:44 | mirak9 | does gcc try to optimise loads from memory with movem ? |
| 13:41:49 | mirak9 | for exemple if you have a[0] a[1] a[2] access close in the code |
| 13:42:18 | Pezcore | the guy on the forum just said "i installed rockbox this morning in 7 minutes. i deleted all the directories that the apple firmware had put on there and just left the one rockbox dir and moved my music over. moving my music was the longest part." |
| 13:43:03 | markun | Pezcore: you can also not delete your forlders and put rockbox on it |
| 13:43:18 | Pezcore | markun: i just did that, but um...how do i make it all fancy? |
| 13:43:18 | markun | then use tagcache (chech the manual) to play your music |
| 13:43:48 | DarthShrine | Pezcore: Download or make themes and use them. |
| 13:44:18 | Pezcore | i couldn't really find a manual on the site =/ |
| 13:44:31 | markun | Pezcore: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 13:44:38 | Pezcore | thanks |
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| 13:48:31 | JdGordon | how long does the nano need to charge before something shows on the screen after the battery is completly flat? |
| 13:48:55 | Bg3r | 30 min ? |
| 13:49:01 | Bg3r | (just guessing) |
| 13:49:09 | Bg3r | shouldn't be more |
| 13:49:30 | JdGordon | hmm... it was plugged into usb for 4 hours and got nothing... i rigged up a AC charger for it and thats been going for 20min and still nothing :'( |
| 13:49:50 | Bg3r | :( |
| 13:49:58 | Bg3r | i don't know then .. |
| 13:50:08 | JdGordon | brand new aswell... i had just enough batt to install rb and thats it :p |
| 13:50:14 | * | bluebrother wonders if it's really that hard to find the "documentation" link on the website |
| 13:50:50 | JdGordon | yes, actually it is...! |
| 13:51:44 | bluebrother | :( |
| 13:52:13 | JdGordon | which i had actually checked already.. and the only thing in the faq re batt is http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#My_battery_doesn_t_last_as_long which is not what oim asking |
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| 13:57:05 | Hadaka | some new nano internal pictures: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/ipod-2g.ars/4 |
| 13:58:08 | Hadaka | I wonder how fast the samsung ARM chip is then |
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| 14:00:22 | Hadaka | and I wonder what on earth is the apple sound chip |
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| 14:04:49 | markun | Hadaka: might be something like this: http://www.samsung.com/products/semiconductor/SystemLSI/DigitalMedia/OpticalASSP/OpticalPlayer/MP3/SA58700/SA58700.htm |
| 14:05:00 | markun | the CPU, not the sound chip |
| 14:06:49 | Hadaka | markun: hmh, could be |
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| 14:12:06 | JdGordon | menus are 80% finished recoding :D |
| 14:13:19 | PaulJam | Slasheri: i have a question about the export/import function of TagCache: what happens if i change the genre of some files? will the playcount/autoscore be reset for those files when i update or reinitialize the Tagcache? |
| 14:16:11 | Mordov|hardlywo | todays question :) I am thinking abaout soldering two vires from the usb plug to my power inpott plugg on my h-120 to get USB charging without having to use a two plug cable... can anyone se a reason not to?? |
| 14:18:16 | LinusN | Mordov|hardlywo: 1) You might damage the USB circuits in the other end |
| 14:18:42 | LinusN | 2) you might damage things if you connect both the charger and the usb connector |
| 14:19:12 | Mordov|hardlywo | wouldn't it be just as dangerous with a "normal" usb charger? reason 1 this is |
| 14:19:19 | LinusN | Mordov|hardlywo: yes |
| 14:19:46 | pondlife | LinusN: could you try the updated patch on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 and see if recording monitoring works with it.. it seems ok on my H300 (lovely feedback!), but I don't use recording so am not certain what is normal. |
| 14:19:57 | Mordov|hardlywo | I recon that aslong as the bateries is in parralell the only thing increasing is the amp potensial.. |
| 14:20:03 | LinusN | i don't use recording either :-) |
| 14:20:17 | pondlife | Fair 'nuff! |
| 14:20:35 | pondlife | But if you could compare against yesterday's test that would be good |
| 14:21:10 | LinusN | Mordov|hardlywo: well, in case (2) you will power the USB bus with your charger, and i'm not sure you want that |
| 14:22:18 | Mordov|hardlywo | tthat is a good point ;) |
| 14:23:11 | Mordov|hardlywo | ok thanks :) now I don't have to figure out a whay to safly att wires to the smal USB backside ;) |
| 14:23:18 | Mordov|hardlywo | add |
| 14:23:29 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:24:45 | Mordov|hardlywo | I am waiting for a new Hdd and I'm getting resless ;) already buildt a carholder :) |
| 14:25:07 | Mordov|hardlywo | think I have to make a usb charger aswell... nice for traveling |
| 14:25:48 | Mordov|hardlywo | and I have added silicon to the navi button.... yhink the only mod that is left (and sain) is the battry exchange |
| 14:31:44 | bluebrother | hmm, isn't the favorites plugin somewhat outdated? |
| 14:31:53 | LinusN | it should probably be deleted |
| 14:32:03 | bluebrother | afaics the same functionality can be obtained with the playlist catalog |
| 14:32:09 | LinusN | yup |
| 14:32:28 | bluebrother | then I won't bother with the missing screenshots for it :) |
| 14:32:32 | LinusN | don't |
| 14:35:01 | Bg3r | wow ... the new nanos have 256MB RAM ?? |
| 14:35:01 | * | amiconn still doesn't know how the playlist catalog works |
| 14:35:38 | JdGordon | hmm... with my menu rework, its not immediatly obvious if a menu item is a setting, or if it goes into another menu... does anyone think an icon for the current chosen option would work? |
| 14:35:51 | JdGordon | Bg3r: 256mb chips are cheaper to make than 64mb? |
| 14:36:31 | Bg3r | i doubt it |
| 14:37:07 | bluebrother | JdGordon, how about that multi-line settings approach? Had some positive feedback the time it worked |
| 14:37:08 | JdGordon | anywho.. apart from that minor problem.. my changes are finished.. anyone game to test a patch? |
| 14:37:15 | JdGordon | ? |
| 14:37:42 | JdGordon | the showing the value in the menu? |
| 14:38:19 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 14:38:33 | pondlife | Just put a > at the right-hand side if there's a sub-menu? |
| 14:38:40 | JdGordon | i dont think that would look good |
| 14:38:45 | JdGordon | pondlife: maybe that could work |
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| 14:38:57 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5833 |
| 14:39:03 | pondlife | So no > would indicate end of line = setting.. |
| 14:39:21 | bluebrother | I liked that pretty much. Maybe extend it to the complete menu? |
| 14:39:28 | JdGordon | pondlife: that doesnt work well when the item names are as long as the screen is wide |
| 14:39:34 | pondlife | True |
| 14:39:38 | pondlife | Or wider! |
| 14:39:45 | pondlife | Assuming scrolling will happen |
| 14:39:49 | JdGordon | bluebrother: i thought there was a fair bit of objection to that |
| 14:40:10 | pondlife | You'd need to have a one char margin at the right in that case... not simple |
| 14:40:12 | bluebrother | iirc the only objection was the fact that the settings now have a setting ;-) |
| 14:40:35 | bluebrother | but imo it makes the menus look much better, especially on targets with a big screen. |
| 14:40:36 | JdGordon | bah, my changes make adding more settings painfully simple.. so bring em on :D |
| 14:40:45 | pondlife | I don't like 2 lines per setting |
| 14:40:50 | JdGordon | it should be v easy to adapt that to this tho |
| 14:41:18 | JdGordon | how about a radio button sort of icon next to settings? |
| 14:41:20 | bluebrother | at least he had a nice solution to the setting vs submenu |
| 14:41:48 | JdGordon | i mean, in the setting screen it shows radio buttons, in the menus it shows nothing |
| 14:41:51 | pondlife | Are there any screenshots of patch 5833 around? |
| 14:42:04 | bluebrother | and at least I liked it to see the value of a setting without going into the setting itself |
| 14:42:06 | JdGordon | the forum thread has, probbly old ones tho |
| 14:42:28 | pondlife | Ah, the forum - that place I rarely visit.... |
| 14:42:38 | JdGordon | wise man :D |
| 14:42:52 | * | JdGordon is slightly worried about this nano still not turning on... |
| 14:43:44 | bluebrother | pondlife, http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5881.msg45572#msg45572 |
| 14:43:50 | LinusN | pondlife: seems to work |
| 14:44:10 | pondlife | bluebrother: Thanks |
| 14:44:14 | pondlife | LinusN: Thanks |
| 14:44:53 | pondlife | I quite like the output from 5833, although I prefer teh current, sparse look. |
| 14:45:42 | pondlife | Ah, I really don't like the 2 lines per option one |
| 14:45:48 | bluebrother | the nice thing was that you could turn it completely off |
| 14:46:21 | LinusN | i like the 2-line approach best |
| 14:46:22 | * | pondlife reads the forum thread |
| 14:46:52 | LinusN | mainly because it works on all screen sizes |
| 14:47:31 | pondlife | Not too nice on the remotes though |
| 14:47:58 | pondlife | Also you effectively halve the vertical screen size when searching for an option |
| 14:48:08 | pondlife | Which is most of the use of menus. |
| 14:48:51 | LinusN | yes, but if you try to cram both the name and the value on one line, it will look terrible on small lcd's, or with a large font |
| 14:49:08 | pondlife | Well, I prefer not to do that either |
| 14:49:35 | pondlife | The current menu is better IMHO |
| 14:49:45 | JdGordon | are the icons 6 verticle x 8 horizontal pixels or the other way around? |
| 14:50:12 | pondlife | An icon would be a good solution - although I would have icons turned off personally :-) |
| 14:50:20 | * | pondlife is Mr. Text Mode |
| 14:50:41 | LinusN | icons are badness imho |
| 14:50:55 | JdGordon | why? the space is there for them anyway |
| 14:50:59 | pondlife | Yes, but compatible with the tree view |
| 14:51:01 | JdGordon | it might look ok |
| 14:51:22 | JdGordon | it needs _something_ there is no way to tell which is a sub menu and which is a setting |
| 14:51:39 | pondlife | I'd quite like to integrate the tree, tagtree and settings into one structure somehow, but that's another story. |
| 14:51:40 | JdGordon | the difference from now is that the menus have a title also now |
| 14:51:51 | pondlife | So does the tree |
| 14:51:57 | pondlife | Or rather it can |
| 14:52:32 | JdGordon | ye, but what im saying is that currently the menus dont have a title, but settings do, so you know your in a setting if the title is there.. with my patch tjere is a title in both... |
| 14:52:56 | LinusN | JdGordon: where's the patch? |
| 14:53:19 | JdGordon | on the wiki in 2 min, let my just up the latest |
| 14:53:34 | pondlife | wiki? Surely you mean Flyspray ;-0 |
| 14:54:04 | JdGordon | no, wiki while its a WIP |
| 14:54:25 | pondlife | Good idea, or it may get committed too early :-[ |
| 14:54:36 | JdGordon | LinusN: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MenuSettingsRecoding |
| 14:54:42 | * | pondlife officially forgives Slasheri |
| 14:55:08 | LinusN | JdGordon: boooh: |
| 14:55:11 | LinusN | -settings_menu.c |
| 14:55:11 | LinusN | -sound_menu.c |
| 14:55:11 | LinusN | +//settings_menu.c |
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| 14:55:11 | LinusN | +//sound_menu.c |
| 14:55:39 | JdGordon | ye, its WIP.. ill obviously clean it up before i submit it as the finished product |
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| 14:56:00 | amiconn | Imho 2 lines per setting are a big waste of screen estate, settings at the right are ugly on large screens and really ugly on small screens, and they won't work properly with long (==scrolling) menu items |
| 14:56:02 | JdGordon | icons are 8 hiegh by 6 wide btw :p |
| 14:56:14 | amiconn | The > at the right will suffer from the same problem |
| 14:56:33 | amiconn | ...but I would like it if it's possible |
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| 14:56:55 | LinusN | JdGordon: you're still using LANG strings? |
| 14:56:56 | pondlife | I imagine a > on the right that just results in scrolling happening one char earlier |
| 14:57:11 | pondlife | And only affects that one row |
| 14:57:15 | amiconn | The > will scroll as well |
| 14:57:28 | pondlife | I'd rather it was fixed at the right |
| 14:57:37 | JdGordon | LinusN: yes, like i said.. WIP.. i still think that should eb the way to go tho... |
| 14:57:41 | pondlife | i.e. the scroll-zone is just including the text |
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| 14:57:46 | * | JdGordon is being stubborn :p |
| 14:57:56 | amiconn | Yeah, but the current scrolling implementation doesn't allow to specify a right margin |
| 14:58:06 | pondlife | I never said it would be easy :-) |
| 14:58:09 | amiconn | That will change with viewports... |
| 14:58:22 | pondlife | OK, maybe allow > to scroll for now |
| 14:59:04 | LinusN | JdGordon: so you actually think it's a good idea with a settings format that gets incompatible when the language strings change? |
| 14:59:05 | amiconn | We have no > right now, so I don't think it's necessary to introduce it |
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| 14:59:26 | pondlife | I agree - wait until after viewports for that |
| 14:59:34 | * | bluebrother still likes the two-lines approach best |
| 14:59:41 | JdGordon | LinusN: yes, how often are the english versions changed? (dont want to argue this now..) |
| 14:59:57 | LinusN | ok then |
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| 15:00:17 | pondlife | amiconn: Please can you quickly check my pointer arithmatic at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6032... |
| 15:00:29 | * | LinusN stops reviewing the menu patch |
| 15:00:56 | JdGordon | :( can you try it out? let me know if the usage is ok? |
| 15:01:01 | JdGordon | even if the code isnt perfect atm |
| 15:01:03 | Slasheri | PaulJam: nope, it will not reset. Currently only file path is used to connect the runtime data to correct file. But that will be improved in future to look into tags also |
| 15:01:06 | pondlife | Hmm, why is it "arithmEtic" but "mathemAtic" .... |
| 15:01:16 | Slasheri | pondlife: hmm |
| 15:02:28 | pondlife | hmm? |
| 15:02:39 | PaulJam | Slasheri: ok, thanks for the info. (i wasn't sure, because the changelog contains the tags too.) |
| 15:02:41 | pondlife | Hmm, too many hmms.. |
| 15:02:43 | Slasheri | 15:54 * pondlife officially forgives Slasheri |
| 15:02:45 | Slasheri | that :D |
| 15:02:48 | pondlife | Just joking |
| 15:02:51 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 15:03:02 | Slasheri | i have been busy at work if you mean that your voice patch |
| 15:03:05 | pondlife | Just don't do it again |
| 15:03:10 | Slasheri | =) |
| 15:03:39 | pondlife | Yep. You can make up for it by testing the new one and not committing it. |
| 15:03:56 | Slasheri | sure, i will try later today |
| 15:04:09 | pondlife | Although I suspect jhMikeS has a larger rework up his sleeve |
| 15:04:29 | pondlife | But this one Works For Me |
| 15:04:29 | Slasheri | hehe, in the last time you had the wish that i commit your playback patch soon ;) |
| 15:04:30 | * | _jhMikeS_ is checking the logs to see if there's any discussion about something he messed up |
| 15:04:37 | pondlife | Nope |
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| 15:05:20 | pondlife | Nothing messed up, but you may want to test out http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 - not much changed from yesterday |
| 15:05:47 | pondlife | Since then I've also removed those USB swaps and all seems well too. |
| 15:05:52 | jhMikeS | pondlife: rework...rather big...sw recording. |
| 15:05:59 | pondlife | Good luck |
| 15:06:12 | jhMikeS | thanks...is there something I should know? |
| 15:06:31 | lowlight | JdGordon: nobody liked the look of radio buttons for settings a few weeks ago when I talked about it...I've done checkmarks instead: http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/settings_selected_icon.bmp |
| 15:06:39 | amiconn | jhMikeS: [09:16:13] <amiconn> jhMikeS: Does pcm_record still make sure the CPU is always boosted when recording from S/PDIF (h1x0)? |
| 15:06:42 | LinusN | JdGordon: calling file functions in the ATA callback seems risky at best |
| 15:06:55 | jhMikeS | amiconn: yes |
| 15:07:23 | JdGordon | lowlight: have u done the patch or just the mockup? |
| 15:07:24 | jhMikeS | The only change yesterday was pcmrec_callback |
| 15:07:55 | pondlife | jhMikeS: Only that I'd like you to confirm that the playback.c mods in 6024 don't break recording. |
| 15:08:09 | JdGordon | LinusN: yes, thats probably why it has crashed on me a fwe times, im hopegin another set of eyes can see a safer way to do this |
| 15:08:38 | amiconn | lowlight: Rockbox has a checkbox widget for a very long time... just no code seems to use it |
| 15:08:44 | jhMikeS | pondlife: np |
| 15:08:48 | pondlife | Cheers |
| 15:08:53 | LinusN | the current approach works because it is a single raw sector write |
| 15:08:58 | JdGordon | the ata_callback_count variable should stop it calling itself over and over again, as well as the array will eventually be all nULL... |
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| 15:09:16 | jhMikeS | Can I reproduce the voice bug with a one-song playlist? |
| 15:09:36 | LinusN | jhMikeS: set repeat=none and play the last song in a dir |
| 15:09:53 | jhMikeS | Auto change dir off too right? |
| 15:09:57 | LinusN | yup |
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| 15:10:08 | JdGordon | lowlight: nice naming scheme :D i found the patch.. im gonna try it |
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| 15:11:09 | lowlight | JdGordon: it may not apply cleanly now. |
| 15:11:19 | JdGordon | 3/7 failed :'( |
| 15:12:17 | pondlife | jhMikeS: yes |
| 15:12:47 | pondlife | Just let it play to the end - I have a 5 second recording to test with |
| 15:13:22 | LinusN | pondlife, jhMikeS: i can't reproduce the voice bug with the latest patch |
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| 15:14:02 | pondlife | Nope, I'm pretty sure it resolves the bug (by not swapping when audio_codec_loaded=false), but does it break recording at all? |
| 15:14:16 | pondlife | I can make a recording and monitor ok, but am not sure of the subtleties |
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| 15:14:40 | jhMikeS | just want to make a valid comparison...won't take long |
| 15:14:49 | pondlife | Also, only tried mic - not SPDIF for example |
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| 15:16:41 | mirak9 | jhMikes, this benchmark http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:sfymR-7AAQwJ:lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2004-August/028021.html+ffmpeg+libmpeg2&hl=fr&gl=fr&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a suggest that ffmpeg is faster than libmpeg2. Also maybe without using b frames for encoding we can decode faster |
| 15:16:55 | preglow | like using mjpeg? |
| 15:17:02 | preglow | that'll wreak havoc on the compression ratio |
| 15:17:02 | JdGordon | lowlight: cheers.. that looks much better :) |
| 15:17:19 | preglow | forget it, you said b frames, not p frames |
| 15:17:43 | preglow | we can definitely decode faster without b frames, but they do some times help compression ratio a bit |
| 15:19:42 | jhMikeS | yep the voice bug is there...now for the patch. |
| 15:22:07 | markun | mirak9: why do you use google cache for that? |
| 15:22:20 | lowlight | JdGordon: glad you made it work :) |
| 15:22:41 | JdGordon | only needed tiny fixes to compile |
| 15:24:05 | mirak9 | markun google is faster often |
| 15:24:35 | mirak9 | preglow no, you would have to use only i frames to have something like mjpeg |
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| 15:24:57 | preglow | mirak9: know, know |
| 15:25:03 | markun | mirak9: interesting that libmpeg 0.3.1 is faster than 0.4.0b |
| 15:25:03 | mirak9 | preglow p frames takes preceding image, and b frames before and after |
| 15:25:33 | preglow | mirak9: know, know, i just misread what you said |
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| 15:28:24 | mirak9 | preglow well my goal is to reach 25fps plus sound. wav sound will do, so I don't bother about size that much as long as it's below 2G :D |
| 15:28:30 | jhMikeS | pondlife: ok...I see both bug are fixed (no freeze entering recording) but now Mic recording is not working at all. I don't think your change has anything to do with it. My cvs up showed a change to recording.c. |
| 15:28:51 | preglow | mirak9: with mpeg2 we'll reach that plus an ordinary codec |
| 15:28:55 | preglow | no problem |
| 15:30:05 | jhMikeS | pondlife: I remove your patch and confirm for Mic. |
| 15:30:14 | jhMikeS | *I'll |
| 15:30:58 | pondlife | Hmm, the recording change was me, but only affects the sim |
| 15:31:35 | pondlife | I was attempting to simulate recording better, but no joy yet |
| 15:33:26 | pondlife | Neither mod should affect Mic recording.. and it's working ok here (H340 inbuild mic) |
| 15:33:28 | jhMikeS | patch removed and now I have mic back |
| 15:33:32 | pondlife | ?? |
| 15:33:37 | jhMikeS | I'll try one more time |
| 15:34:59 | mirak9 | preglow no problem ?? well I lack of ideas right now to optimise |
| 15:35:15 | preglow | mirak9: use more iram |
| 15:35:20 | preglow | look at the motion estimation |
| 15:35:32 | mirak9 | I know some work can be done on motioncompensation, that's the next candidate from profling analysis, but I really understand nothing to the code in this file |
| 15:36:01 | mirak9 | there are to much macros |
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| 15:37:52 | jhMikeS | There is still a problem if voice menus are enabled |
| 15:38:00 | jhMikeS | Or actuall there is now |
| 15:38:03 | pondlife | Do you find it works second time |
| 15:38:13 | jhMikeS | I have to let voice stop first |
| 15:38:18 | pondlife | mp3_play_stop should be waiting for voice to stop |
| 15:38:23 | jhMikeS | then the mic starts up |
| 15:39:44 | JdGordon | *cough* http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6595.0 |
| 15:39:51 | jhMikeS | If I enter the screen in the middle of a clip recording doesn't work for mix |
| 15:39:53 | jhMikeS | mic |
| 15:40:21 | mirak9 | preglow I am not sure if mpeg2 works on y u v planes speratly or at the same time. if it's separately maybe having one buffer plane could help, but it would be big 220*176, around 16k |
| 15:41:12 | pondlife | Do you call anything that should stop voice? |
| 15:41:43 | preglow | hmmm, i wonder how much iram the core uses now |
| 15:41:47 | pondlife | Ah - voice_stop... |
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| 15:45:36 | amiconn | mirak: I would be interested in a couple of frame rate numbers, preferably with our "official" test video (elephant's dream) |
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| 15:46:01 | RaeNye | aloha |
| 15:46:17 | jhMikeS | pondlife: yead it's in recording.c |
| 15:46:27 | amiconn | If you can, test with actual screen output (i.e. the call to lcd_yuv_blit()) disabled |
| 15:46:28 | jhMikeS | RaeNye: ahola |
| 15:46:46 | pondlife | voice_stop doesn't actually wait for voice to stop |
| 15:47:02 | amiconn | Frame rate with cvs, with asm idct, with idct block in iram, and with both |
| 15:47:11 | pondlife | It probably should! |
| 15:47:18 | jhMikeS | I calls mp3_play_stop or whatever, right? and that wait...dang I wrote it |
| 15:47:43 | pondlife | And I may have removed a wait loop a while back |
| 15:47:52 | pondlife | Not in this patch though |
| 15:48:16 | jhMikeS | probably but it used to hang if it did |
| 15:48:56 | * | jhMikeS is getting senile |
| 15:50:42 | mirak9 | preglow I did some modifications on idct_add and idct_copy , they use burst mode reading as much as possible, the gain is substential. |
| 15:50:59 | RaeNye | can you record and play simultaneously (on any target)? |
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| 15:51:32 | jhMikeS | pondlife: what does the yield during Q_AUDIO_PLAY do for anything? |
| 15:51:33 | preglow | RaeNye: on iriver, yes |
| 15:51:44 | amiconn | RaeNye: On coldfire: yes, theoretically |
| 15:51:45 | preglow | RaeNye: only target i know for sure can do that |
| 15:51:51 | amiconn | Nobody tried so far afaik |
| 15:52:02 | amiconn | On archos: no |
| 15:52:08 | amiconn | On iPod: Don't know |
| 15:52:29 | preglow | amiconn: people have tried so far, yes |
| 15:52:38 | RaeNye | There's a numerous applications that need a PCM recording/playback interface that is not file based |
| 15:52:45 | preglow | at least hubbel told me it worked |
| 15:53:13 | preglow | RaeNye: hell yes, i'm planning to do that myself once the recording interface is exposed to plugins and i have time |
| 15:53:20 | RaeNye | FS #2566 (use player as a DSP / amplifier) |
| 15:53:38 | RaeNye | some old FS about implementing fax/modem |
| 15:53:45 | preglow | hahaha |
| 15:53:56 | preglow | that would kinda rock |
| 15:53:58 | RaeNye | answering machine FS (not on tracker yet...) |
| 15:54:32 | RaeNye | I found GPL sources for a software implementation, but it has floating point. |
| 15:54:45 | RaeNye | could use EMAC ops though |
| 15:54:56 | amiconn | Hahaaaa - implement a soft modem using the audio i/f, and the connect the iriver to the internet... |
| 15:55:16 | preglow | RaeNye: that would rock pretty badly, actually |
| 15:55:16 | preglow | hahaha |
| 15:55:24 | RaeNye | guitar tuner |
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| 15:55:59 | pondlife | jhMikeS: Not certain, but it is needed or voice can take over completely. |
| 15:56:10 | mirak9 | amiconn would be intersting to have profiling working. |
| 15:56:19 | pondlife | Maybe the queue with timeout should be waiting longer than 0 ticks |
| 15:56:24 | amiconn | Profiling should work on coldfire... |
| 15:56:28 | pondlife | That would probably be neater |
| 15:56:29 | * | amiconn never used it though |
| 15:56:37 | RaeNye | I think I'll open a generic FS on having portable PCM record/playback API and have it as a requirement for all these. |
| 15:56:56 | pondlife | queue_wait_w_tmo(&voice_queue, &ev, 0); -> queue_wait_w_tmo(&voice_queue, &ev, 5) or somesuch |
| 15:57:27 | RaeNye | amiconn: no internet... would you like script kiddies to buffer-overflow your /DAP/ |
| 15:57:36 | mirak9 | amiconn well when I tried h300 was crashing when starting mpegplayer plugin. |
| 15:57:45 | RaeNye | also I don't want to have tcp/ip stack code ;-) |
| 15:59:03 | mirak9 | amiconn maybe linuxstb could implement a time based benchmark. something like playing 30 seconds then stopping, showing fps. |
| 15:59:40 | pondlife | jhMikeS: I think I've fixed the mic problem. |
| 15:59:49 | pondlife | Nothing was calling pcm_play_stop |
| 15:59:58 | pondlife | pcmbuf_play_stop() even |
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| 16:01:07 | pondlife | If you add 3 lines into voice_stop(), after the call to mp3_play_stop: |
| 16:01:10 | pondlife | while (voice_is_playing) |
| 16:01:10 | pondlife | yield(); |
| 16:01:10 | pondlife | pcmbuf_play_stop(); |
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| 16:02:59 | jhMikeS | why should mp3_play_stop now do that? |
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| 16:03:22 | pondlife | Not mp3_play_stop |
| 16:04:16 | jhMikeS | I know...was wondering why mp3_play_stop doesn't wait |
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| 16:04:51 | pabouk | theli_ua: I have tried your new zxbox build with 4bpp driver for h100s but it is not much faster unfortunately. 72% with frameskip 5. |
| 16:04:53 | jhMikeS | gonna test that out now though |
| 16:05:19 | theli_ua | pabouk, almost the same that with grayscale? strange :( |
| 16:05:42 | LinusN | mp3_play_stop must not wait |
| 16:05:59 | pondlife | But voice_stop must |
| 16:06:55 | pabouk | theli_ua: yes, not much faster :( In fast mode it is 79% |
| 16:08:02 | theli_ua | pabouk, what target do you have? h100 or h120 ? |
| 16:08:06 | LinusN | pondlife: or rather, audio_resume() must not wait or yield |
| 16:08:20 | jhMikeS | yes, it fixes it |
| 16:08:27 | LinusN | pondlife: because it is called in interrupt context |
| 16:08:36 | RaeNye | speaking of zxbox, does it emulate every opcode separately? |
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| 16:09:26 | RaeNye | (and is the main CPU emulation even a bottleneck?) |
| 16:09:50 | pondlife | OK, I'll update the patch |
| 16:10:04 | pabouk | theli_ua: h120, I have also noticed that the speed value slowly changes. i.e. it grows from 55% to 66% during 30 seconds and then it goes down again. |
| 16:11:06 | theli_ua | pabouk, i'm sorry, but are you sure you're using my build? where did you put zxbox.rock ? |
| 16:11:55 | theli_ua | theli_ua, sorry... i see you can use play button now .. so that states you're using mine |
| 16:12:06 | jhMikeS | LinusN: we need important notes about context in the comments IMO. :) |
| 16:12:18 | pabouk | theli_ua: Yes, I am sure. It has 4 shades of grey now :) and the play button works. |
| 16:12:32 | jhMikeS | pondlife: remove my comments from voice_stop too since it is being "globally addressed" |
| 16:12:45 | pondlife | OK |
| 16:12:59 | pondlife | I assume I need the test in still. |
| 16:13:10 | pondlife | i.e. the current_codec test |
| 16:13:47 | jhMikeS | Well...can't post a message to it unless it is. You'll just have a stale message later. |
| 16:14:04 | pondlife | Yes, and the yield loop may never end! |
| 16:14:17 | pondlife | Which would be more of a problem |
| 16:14:39 | theli_ua | pabouk, please, try http://theli.ho.com.ua/zxbox.rock (it has alternative way of passing the z80 processor |
| 16:14:39 | theli_ua | data to the z80 instruction emulation functions) |
| 16:15:19 | * | jhMikeS senses a need for rethinking the whole process...so messy, it is. |
| 16:15:35 | * | LinusN agrees |
| 16:15:42 | LinusN | gtg |
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| 16:16:07 | RaeNye | is the Z80 emulation the bottleneck? |
| 16:16:11 | * | pondlife agrees too |
| 16:16:34 | theli_ua | RaeNye, we are trying find this out ;) |
| 16:17:23 | RaeNye | what's the speed percentage w/o writing anything to screen? |
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| 16:18:40 | RaeNye | I thought yesterday about one dynamic recompilation feature that could be implemented without much complication |
| 16:18:59 | RaeNye | more for rockboy, but could work for any emulator |
| 16:19:07 | theli_ua | RaeNye, well ... i can have 100% with 25fps (frameskip 1) on mini *with* screen output |
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| 16:20:05 | RaeNye | what is the mini's cpu freq? |
| 16:20:39 | RaeNye | are you 100% boosted? |
| 16:20:42 | amiconn | RaeNye: There are beginnigs of dynamic recompilation for rockboy in CVS |
| 16:20:56 | amiconn | HCl did it, for coldfire |
| 16:20:58 | theli_ua | RaeNye, yes full-time boost |
| 16:21:11 | amiconn | It's not yet working - too few opcodes actually implemented |
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| 16:21:37 | RaeNye | I'll have a look. real dynamic-comp, with a subset of C compiler backend !? |
| 16:21:51 | pabouk | theli_ua: The speed did not change... |
| 16:22:13 | theli_ua | pabouk, :( , doesn't have any effect on arm target too :( |
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| 16:22:42 | RaeNye | I just thought of performing some online liveness analysis to avoid updating unnecessary flags/registers |
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| 16:24:10 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 updated |
| 16:24:22 | pondlife | Late lunch time |
| 16:25:20 | RaeNye | pondlife: just when I was about to check the pervious version on my X6 ... |
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| 16:27:55 | theli_ua | pabouk, redownload http://theli.ho.com.ua/zxbox.rock please.. it has now no screen output |
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| 16:32:59 | jhMikeS | are mutexes granted ownership in the threads waited on them now? |
| 16:33:13 | pondlife | RaeNye: Can you check the new one then? |
| 16:33:13 | jhMikeS | *in the order* |
| 16:33:29 | RaeNye | pondlife: compiling. |
| 16:34:30 | pondlife | I've found a bug already. |
| 16:34:40 | pondlife | But it's almost there |
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| 16:34:56 | RaeNye | what should I check exactly? |
| 16:34:57 | pondlife | Report back on Flyspray, I've got to eat.. |
| 16:34:58 | pabouk | theli_ua: The screen output seems to be disabled completely so I do not see the speed measurement :) |
| 16:35:19 | RaeNye | that recording generally works? with/without voice? |
| 16:35:28 | theli_ua | pabouk, oops |
| 16:35:35 | pondlife | Just make sure it doesn't crash , mainly! Recording and voice are the likely problem areas |
| 16:35:54 | RaeNye | OK, will report. |
| 16:36:05 | pondlife | But going into recording screen can crash if the voiced filename is still being read out, I know about that one - so have a pin handy |
| 16:36:30 | RaeNye | X5 usually doesn't need a pin for reset |
| 16:36:33 | theli_ua | pabouk, i've fixed this, redownload please |
| 16:36:45 | RaeNye | long (7-sec) OFF tends to work |
| 16:37:02 | pondlife | Useful! |
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| 16:43:34 | pabouk | theli_ua: The highest speed shown was 85% but the value settled at 80% - pretty close to 79 in fast mode |
| 16:44:07 | theli_ua | pabouk, so is speed close to one with screen output? |
| 16:44:51 | JdGordon | haha, doom on the nano is retarted :D |
| 16:45:01 | pabouk | theli_ua: yes |
| 16:46:21 | JdGordon | no rockboy ont he nano? :'( |
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| 16:48:00 | JdGordon | screen too small is it? |
| 16:49:06 | theli_ua | JdGordon, just none adopted rockboy for it |
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| 17:15:29 | mego | Hi all! Im thinking about buying the iriver U10. Has there been any discussion about porting rockbox to that thingy? |
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| 17:17:00 | fatherfork | can someone give me a brief overview of viewports? |
| 17:19:23 | Arathis | Bagder: why does the cvs building system lag sometimes? |
| 17:19:53 | Arathis | for example the last build is 10:00 but the last change in cvs was 14:55 |
| 17:22:32 | amiconn | Commits for the manual don't trigger a rebuild |
| 17:22:49 | amiconn | It wouldn't make sense |
| 17:25:01 | Arathis | amiconn: oops. didn't see they were for the manual. thanks |
| 17:27:53 | mirak9 | I am not sure to understand why compensation of the motion is needed |
| 17:29:11 | mirak9 | ok that's the oposite term of estimation for compresson |
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| 17:46:54 | mirak9 | The coder subtracts the motion-compensated prediction from the source picture to form a 'prediction error' picture. The prediction error is transformed with the DCT, the coefficients are quantised and these quantised values coded using a VLC. |
| 17:47:37 | mirak9 | huhu, only the pixel errors are coded |
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| 17:49:00 | mirak9 | then at decoding, you just add the differences to the previous frame |
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| 17:52:15 | markun | mirak9: don't you transform the previous frame before you add this difference? |
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| 18:02:57 | RaeNye | mirak9: could you arrange your FS #5995 such that if DEBUG is #defined then coldfire asm optimizations would be disabled? |
| 18:04:00 | RaeNye | I tried to do that but am not sure when #ifdef CPU_COLDFIRE is used for asm optimizations and when not. |
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| 18:28:41 | RaeNye | bye |
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| 18:40:21 | HCl | dynarec is fun, when it works |
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| 18:47:40 | mirak | markun: transform to what ? |
| 18:48:14 | MuggU | cam i use both firmwares with the iriver h10? |
| 18:49:23 | mirak | markun: I don't know. I guess the block is translated then the error correction is done |
| 18:49:34 | mirak | by adding the errors |
| 18:49:34 | Arathis | MuggU: you cannot switch them/dual boot if you mean that |
| 18:50:15 | MuggU | hm.. will this work in the near future? |
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| 20:10:45 | moozooh | hi guys. a quick question for those who do some analog recording with their H300s. what would be better to get, an AA-driven 600 Ohm mic, or a passive 600 Ohm mic? which of them will be driven better, or there's no difference? |
| 20:12:38 | petur | an active mic or mic+preamp will give a higher signal, which is better because too much gain on h3x0 will introduce noise |
| 20:12:53 | petur | all depends on what you record of course |
| 20:13:11 | petur | if it's loud sounds, a plain mic will do too |
| 20:14:04 | * | petur runs off ("bbl") |
| 20:14:49 | moozooh | well, i need an all-purpose stereo mic that would be more tolerant to loud sounds than H300's default one. when i tried recording some live show, it sounded like a sheet of paper tearing up on all the loud sounds (especially bass attacks) |
| 20:16:42 | moozooh | even with very low gain value set on the player, my mic clipped just by itself (nothing really surprising, though). |
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| 20:23:24 | rretzbach | uh oh |
| 20:23:26 | rretzbach | :((( |
| 20:23:47 | rretzbach | my mp3 player's hdd is just making weird noises. |
| 20:23:50 | rretzbach | Is it dead? |
| 20:24:52 | rretzbach | Its three years old and was used every day. |
| 20:24:58 | nls | could be, does it work? |
| 20:25:17 | rretzbach | rockbox just started, but I could do anything, now it doesnt boot :> |
| 20:25:25 | rretzbach | Well it boots |
| 20:25:35 | rretzbach | hmmm |
| 20:25:38 | rretzbach | wait |
| 20:25:45 | rretzbach | I had that some time ago |
| 20:25:47 | rretzbach | the akku!!! |
| 20:25:52 | rretzbach | maybe it's getting old |
| 20:26:12 | rretzbach | lol yes |
| 20:26:17 | rretzbach | Sorry to trouble me and you. |
| 20:26:25 | nls | batteries? |
| 20:26:34 | rretzbach | Whoa I just feared I have to buy a new player. |
| 20:26:43 | rretzbach | The batterie was empty. |
| 20:26:55 | nls | good :) |
| 20:27:07 | rretzbach | The hdd just started to run and went offline right away. |
| 20:27:10 | rretzbach | Several times. |
| 20:27:14 | rretzbach | So i was in ph33r |
| 20:28:58 | Davide-NYC | moozooh: you need a powered mic. |
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| 20:30:12 | moozooh | Davide-NYC: you mean a battery-driven? yeah, that's what i was going to buy. |
| 20:30:28 | Davide-NYC | yes |
| 20:31:47 | moozooh | sadly, there's only one mic available here that is not that bad, has stereo output, AA battery power and still doesn't cost that much. it's settled, then, thanks. |
| 20:32:31 | petur | moozooh: I had the same problem (clipping due too bass-heavy music) and got a pair of cardoids + micamp |
| 20:33:45 | moozooh | too little time for me to search for a micamp, and i don't have the knowledge to assemble one myself. :\ |
| 20:34:13 | petur | try to find out the SPL they can handle before you buy! |
| 20:34:22 | hcs | any idea how I can test resuming with the simulator? |
| 20:35:25 | petur | moozooh: I've wasted money trying to go for cheaper mics, only to find out they couldn't handle the soundpressure |
| 20:36:46 | moozooh | petur: hmm, good point. i'll search for the exact specs of that mic now. |
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| 20:47:35 | moozooh | i'm thoroughly amazed. not only doesn't Philips give the specs on their own microphones, i can't even find the microphones section other than in the russian section of the site. %) |
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| 21:11:31 | mirak | uint32_t tmp = (uint16_t) (block[0] >> 1); |
| 21:11:31 | mirak | tmp |= tmp << 16; |
| 21:11:53 | mirak | I am trying to traduce that in asm. |
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| 21:20:02 | mirak | ok forget that. I am writting non consecutive words |
| 21:20:55 | webguest40 | How come my battiery keeps going so fast any options in rockbox to save battiery. In appls os ipod my battiery last longer much better |
| 21:22:50 | nls | well lots of options affect battery life but the ipods have significantly shorter batterylife in rockbox. |
| 21:24:01 | nls | And the reason for that is not all clear but a theory is that some hardware is left on while it should be switched off if anyone knew how |
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| 21:25:06 | nls | webguest40, have you changed any settings from default? |
| 21:25:11 | nls | oh |
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| 21:32:46 | dionoea | hello world |
| 21:33:01 | nls | hello dionoea :) |
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| 21:36:47 | petur | grrr... when recording, it takes almost 3 seconds between a keypress and the backlight going on |
| 21:37:01 | petur | (recording in wav) |
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| 21:38:48 | moozooh | petur: the whole internet is silent on the SPL value for that mic, the only thing i've found is its sensitivity value (stated as "-45 dB"), but i suppose it's not the same thing. |
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| 21:39:50 | petur | maybe you can try asking at http://www.taperssection.com but they're more into high-end gear |
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| 21:46:35 | * | petur is looking at some very weird waveforms |
| 21:47:07 | mirak | damn I gained 1 fps |
| 21:47:16 | mirak | with a tweak on idct |
| 21:47:32 | nls | isn't that good? |
| 21:47:34 | mirak | I use the same shortcut they use in the C version |
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| 21:48:13 | mirak | nls: yes |
| 21:48:52 | nls | so how's the fps on 224x178 nowadays? |
| 21:49:43 | nls | *224x176 |
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| 22:01:56 | mirak | nls: it reachs 25.0 when the guy put is head out of the water reflection in the intro generic |
| 22:02:10 | mirak | and can go down to 22 or 23 |
| 22:02:38 | mirak | hem that's on 224*128 |
| 22:02:46 | mirak | 224x176 is more around 18 |
| 22:02:50 | nls | That's nice :) |
| 22:03:36 | nls | and btw is the screen fast enough? eg. do you see the difference between say 15 and 20 and 25 fps? |
| 22:03:56 | mirak | it seems it doesn't go below 23.2 for 224x176 |
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| 22:04:17 | mirak | nls: yes on smaller videos it goes at 45 fps |
| 22:04:43 | mirak | 160x96 runs at 46 fps |
| 22:05:14 | mirak | the screen is really not the limit |
| 22:06:14 | nls | there was some speculation a while ago that the h300 screen was too slow to do faster video than the 10fps that the OF does. |
| 22:06:53 | nls | does mpegplayer have frame limiting? |
| 22:07:05 | nls | or rather framerate limiting? |
| 22:08:44 | nls | seems it does, nice |
| 22:09:06 | mirak | in fact this speculations were blown after seeing doom |
| 22:09:20 | mirak | at least for me |
| 22:09:31 | nls | right, never tried doom myself |
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| 22:17:43 | LeBankieR | hello all |
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| 22:46:33 | moozooh | petur: i've made a post at the taperssection.com, waiting for replies (not that they would affect my decision under these circumstances, but it's nice to at least be infirmed). thanks for your help. |
| 22:46:50 | moozooh | informed* |
| 22:47:48 | petur | good |
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| 22:49:16 | moozooh | in any case, such a mic is much better than the default one. |
| 22:49:28 | * | webguest76 jumps around. |
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| 23:05:09 | sharpe | i'm back? |
| 23:06:13 | bluebrother | seems |
| 23:06:31 | sharpe | indeed. |
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| 23:20:18 | bgmrk | ok i need help! |
| 23:20:50 | bgmrk | ne1 home? |
| 23:21:09 | petur | depends |
| 23:21:22 | bgmrk | on what? |
| 23:21:31 | bgmrk | :p |
| 23:21:41 | petur | if we can read your text |
| 23:21:49 | petur | :p |
| 23:22:05 | bgmrk | haha |
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| 23:22:09 | bgmrk | well i asumme u can |
| 23:22:13 | bgmrk | ANYWAys |
| 23:22:37 | bgmrk | some basic questions...cause i've been trying to get this to work for the past few nights |
| 23:22:44 | bgmrk | does rockbox need linux on ipod? |
| 23:22:55 | petur | no |
| 23:23:02 | petur | just the bootloader |
| 23:23:08 | bgmrk | ok |
| 23:23:25 | bgmrk | and...is there a BASIC step by step guide to get this all to work..and what to download |
| 23:23:29 | bgmrk | and where to put what |
| 23:23:35 | petur | yes - see wiki |
| 23:23:40 | petur | ipodport |
| 23:23:40 | bgmrk | ok |
| 23:24:27 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort |
| 23:25:00 | bgmrk | ahhh ty |
| 23:25:50 | bgmrk | i can switch between rockbox and apple firmware right? |
| 23:26:47 | hcs | yes |
| 23:27:24 | mirak | is moving a registry to another considered a store or is it only when you move to memory ? |
| 23:27:39 | bgmrk | kk....and....i assume it supports the newest update for 5g ipod? |
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| 23:28:11 | hcs | that I don't know, I only have a 4g |
| 23:28:38 | bgmrk | oo ok |
| 23:29:09 | bgmrk | well if ne1 in here has a 5g ipod....does rockbox work with newest update? or should i downgrade? |
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| 23:31:29 | bgmrk | o well i'll just try it woithout downgrading :P |
| 23:31:49 | linuxstb_ | bgmrk: Yes, afaik Rockbox works with the latest update. |
| 23:32:28 | bgmrk | ok ty |
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| 23:33:05 | bgmrk | is it ok to put it into diskmode b4 i connect it... |
| 23:34:06 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it makes no difference. |
| 23:34:43 | bgmrk | ok |
| 23:36:17 | hcs | is there any point in all these i=CODEC_ERROR; goto exit; things, why not just return CODEC_ERROR? |
| 23:37:14 | bluebrother | bgmrk, try http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 23:37:58 | mirak | linuxstb: is moving a registry to another considered a store or is it only when you move to memory ? They say in the manual that a store stalls the store for 2 cycles. |
| 23:38:13 | markun | hcs: don't understand that as well |
| 23:38:39 | markun | hcs: in wav.c both methods are used even |
| 23:38:39 | linuxstb_ | hcs: I'm guessing it's historical. I agree it makes no sense. |
| 23:38:47 | mirak | linuxstb: page 64 in MCF5249UM.pdf |
| 23:38:52 | bgmrk | grrrrr |
| 23:39:20 | bgmrk | when i type in ipodpatcher 0 in cmd...it says drive is not an iPod aborting..... |
| 23:39:33 | bgmrk | i have it set to C:\rockbox |
| 23:39:41 | bgmrk | and i have the ipodpatcher.exe in that folder |
| 23:39:53 | bluebrother | then I guess 0 is the wrong number. |
| 23:40:06 | hcs | linuxstb_: I was thinking maybe to consolidate the function exit stuff, but it doesn't really take up much space |
| 23:40:18 | bgmrk | grrr ok 1 sec..think i got it |
| 23:40:24 | linuxstb_ | mirak: I've never done Coldfire ASM, but I've always thought a store was by definition a copy from register to memory. |
| 23:40:38 | bluebrother | the procedure is described in the manual. |
| 23:40:57 | bgmrk | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 23:41:01 | bluebrother | you need to find out the correct number of your player. This is mostly try-and-error. |
| 23:41:08 | bgmrk | thats what i'm using to install |
| 23:41:23 | linuxstb_ | bgmrk: What drive letter does your ipod appear as in Windows? |
| 23:41:33 | bgmrk | g |
| 23:41:44 | bgmrk | ooo |
| 23:41:46 | bgmrk | i get it... |
| 23:41:52 | bgmrk | 7 |
| 23:42:05 | bgmrk | nope didn't work |
| 23:42:19 | bluebrother | I'd also suggest you to read the pdf manual. At least when rockbox is running. |
| 23:42:26 | bgmrk | ok |
| 23:42:29 | linuxstb_ | Just follow the instructions - start with 0 and work up... |
| 23:43:01 | bluebrother | linuxstb_, what is that number reflecting? The hard drive number windows addigns in the disk manager? |
| 23:43:42 | bluebrother | *assigns |
| 23:44:29 | linuxstb_ | Something like that.. I don't know how Windows does things. |
| 23:45:19 | bluebrother | I thought you wrote ipodpatcher ... |
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| 23:46:04 | linuxstb_ | I did... |
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| 23:46:47 | bgmrk1 | grrr |
| 23:46:53 | linuxstb_ | Copy-and-paste coding... I took the raw disk access routines from a different application, combined them with some of Rockbox's disk handling code and came up with ipodpatcher. |
| 23:47:11 | bgmrk1 | ok soo i reacher ipodpatcher 26...and still nothing...and my ipod is set as a drive |
| 23:47:24 | bluebrother | ah, ok. |
| 23:47:42 | bgmrk1 | ne suggestions |
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| 23:47:50 | bluebrother | ne? |
| 23:47:57 | bluebrother | what does this mean? |
| 23:48:03 | bgmrk1 | any |
| 23:48:07 | bgmrk1 | sorry i use to much slang |
| 23:48:20 | bgmrk1 | i'll try to use full words |
| 23:48:33 | bluebrother | most users in this channel aren't native english speakers ... (like me) |
| 23:48:53 | bluebrother | hmm. You could try looking for the ipod in the disk manager |
| 23:48:58 | amiconn | bgmrk: Yes, the number reflects the hard drive number in the disk manager. Not the drive letter |
| 23:49:07 | bgmrk1 | ok |
| 23:50:07 | bgmrk1 | got it!! |
| 23:50:07 | bgmrk1 | haha |
| 23:50:24 | amiconn | drive letters are for partitions (and since Win2000, they are optional). Disk numbers are for physical disks |
| 23:51:21 | bluebrother | drive letters are optional? How can I access a drive without a drive letter? |
| 23:51:50 | dionoea | you can mount drives like on linux with NTFS i think |
| 23:52:19 | linuxstb_ | ipodpatcher uses the name "\\.\PhysicalDriveN" (where N is the drive number) to access the drive. |
| 23:52:21 | bluebrother | I know of that mount possibility, but does this work for drives without a letter? I thought that drive still needed a letter. |
| 23:52:25 | dionoea | (i'm not sure if it's NTFS related ... or just windows XP) |
| 23:52:32 | amiconn | You can mount a drive into an (NTFS) folder |
| 23:52:42 | amiconn | The parent drive needs to be NTFS |
| 23:52:43 | mirak | linux in ubuntu is going to use the UUID of disk. this way you can change the channel or master/slave |
| 23:53:00 | bluebrother | ah, nice. I still thought this needed an additional drive letter. |
| 23:53:02 | amiconn | The mounted drive can be NTFS or FAT, doesn't matter |
| 23:53:33 | preglow | does anyone know if gcc ever reduces a sin() call to a simple sin assembly instruction on targets that support it? |
| 23:53:39 | preglow | i just had a look at libm and nearly vomited |
| 23:53:45 | linuxstb_ | bgmrk1: So is it working now? |
| 23:53:48 | amiconn | The founding NTFS feature is called reparse points, and can be used for other neat stuff than just mounting disks |
| 23:55:20 | bgmrk1 | ok so i did everything in step 1... |
| 23:55:47 | bgmrk1 | last line i see is rockboot.bin: no such file or directory |
| 23:55:50 | bgmrk1 | is that good? |
| 23:56:00 | mirak | amiconn: does the 2cycle stall after a store reminds you something ? |
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| 23:56:07 | bgmrk1 | this is after typing in "ipodpatcher -w N rockboot.bin |
| 23:56:08 | bgmrk1 | " |
| 23:56:50 | bluebrother | the ipodpatcher -w line? |
| 23:57:05 | bgmrk1 | yea |
| 23:57:17 | bgmrk1 | and i disconnected my ipod and it didn't restart :S |
| 23:57:32 | linuxstb_ | No, that message isn't good... |
| 23:57:45 | bgmrk1 | o dear... |
| 23:57:53 | bgmrk1 | so should i start over? |
| 23:57:58 | bgmrk1 | whiping my ipod yet again |
| 23:58:03 | linuxstb_ | No. |
| 23:58:05 | dionoea | your ipod is *dead* |
| 23:58:05 | bgmrk1 | ok |
| 23:58:07 | dionoea | hahaha |
| 23:58:08 | bluebrother | did the ipod_fw step before produce any errors? |
| 23:58:12 | * | dionoea hides |
| 23:58:17 | bgmrk1 | not that i saw |
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