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| 00:24:34 | SkramX | Sounds cool.. rockbox, that is. Going to install it on my nano soon :) |
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| 00:32:44 | Davide-NYC | Question: how can I change the default directory for storing recorded files? (H1x0) |
| 00:33:07 | Davide-NYC | I've tried every ley press and there isnothing in the manual about it. |
| 00:33:11 | Davide-NYC | *key |
| 00:34:01 | SkramX | question: how do i unmount it and then format it to FAT32? |
| 00:34:28 | SkramX | if i unmount it i cant do "dd" |
| 00:36:17 | SkramX | ill try again |
| 00:36:18 | SkramX | one sec |
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| 00:37:38 | SkramX | mark-s-computer:/Users/mark root# dd if=/Users/mark/Desktop/mbr-nano2gb.bin of=/dev/disk1 |
| 00:37:41 | SkramX | dd: /dev/disk1: Resource busy |
| 00:38:18 | ze | is disk1 the right device? |
| 00:38:22 | hcs | I think you're backwards there, you shouldn't be able to dd to it unless it *isn't* mounted |
| 00:38:41 | SkramX | one sec |
| 00:38:52 | SkramX | /dev/disk1s3 on /Volumes/Mark S’s iPod (local, nodev, nosuid, journaled) |
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| 00:39:16 | SkramX | now i can just tell it to eject (but not disconnect the cord), right hcs / ze ? |
| 00:39:46 | hcs | I suppose so, if that's what you want to do, what do you want to do? |
| 00:39:53 | SkramX | ? |
| 00:39:57 | linuxstb_ | unmount and eject are different things. You need to unmount it. |
| 00:40:16 | SkramX | Oh Okay |
| 00:40:34 | linuxstb_ | But you don't use dd on Mac OS X anyway... |
| 00:40:42 | linuxstb_ | What instructions are you following? |
| 00:40:42 | ze | oh |
| 00:40:46 | ze | osx... no wonder i was confused :p |
| 00:40:51 | ze | i was like wtf is eject :p |
| 00:41:04 | SkramX | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT3 |
| 00:41:24 | SkramX | I only have a linux laptop and OS X mac mini |
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| 00:42:42 | SkramX | linuxstb_: ? |
| 00:42:48 | linuxstb_ | You need to do "diskutil umount /dev/disk1s3" to unmount it. |
| 00:42:53 | SkramX | oh |
| 00:42:57 | hcs | linuxstb_: I found a codec-side fix that I'm going to use rather than try to fix the playback code |
| 00:43:28 | SkramX | linuxstb_: just FYI, s/umount/unmount |
| 00:43:29 | Kalthare | Hm, I put in a debugf() routine, and I'm seeing errors from the FAT code about the disk not having 512-byte sectors. |
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| 00:45:58 | linuxstb_ | SkramX: OK, thanks. There's a mistake in that wiki page then... |
| 00:46:02 | SkramX | :) |
| 00:46:04 | SkramX | uhmm |
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| 00:48:55 | SkramX | at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#e_Copy_out_the_firmware_partitio , I am stuck as the one for the ipod nano that i have is 14.5.2 and it says i need 14.5.1... big deal |
| 00:49:00 | SkramX | *? |
| 00:50:43 | linuxstb_ | That should be fine. |
| 00:51:44 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: Any idea what can be done about this? Is this gonna take a huge amount of work? |
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| 00:51:55 | linuxstb_ | But if that's the 1.2 version of the Nano firmware, you'll need to do the actual installation slightly differently to how it's described in that wiki page - Apple changed things, and that wiki page hasn't been updated. |
| 00:52:15 | SkramX | how do i know? |
| 00:52:39 | linuxstb_ | Kalthare: No, I'm not sure what needs to be done. |
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| 00:53:04 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: Okay, well, thanks. I'll keep plugging away at it and see what I can come up with. |
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| 00:54:12 | SkramX | ill have to do this later |
| 00:54:13 | SkramX | peace all |
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| 00:55:18 | Soap | SkramX - read the Windows instructions for the nano v1.2 firmware, and I think you'll figure out what to do on Mac. |
| 00:56:38 | * | amiconn wonders whether the disk really has 2048-byte sectors, or whether this is faked by the UMS driver part in the ipod. |
| 00:57:05 | amiconn | Kalthare: Is this the original partioning the ipod came with? |
| 00:57:08 | Soap | Kalthare said the partition table looks consistant with 2048-byte secots. |
| 00:57:34 | amiconn | Soap: Yes, but that partition was probably made via USB |
| 00:57:37 | Soap | (if someone is willing to PM me the issue this creates, I'm curious) |
| 00:58:01 | Kalthare | I didn't partition it manually. I formatted it with iTunes. |
| 00:58:18 | amiconn | hmm |
| 00:59:48 | * | amiconn is curious what would happen if you try to reformat the data partiton manually |
| 00:59:56 | Kalthare | I'm trying to get the debug messages from the bootloader. I hit a snag, because putting in an infinite loop seems to make GCC optimize out something important. |
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| 01:00:57 | SkramX | so i just found out i have access to a Windows laptop |
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| 01:01:15 | SkramX | all i need to do is install itunes and plug in my ipod and it will detect and format it for windows itunes? |
| 01:01:43 | Soap | ? |
| 01:01:56 | Soap | I thought you were trying to install Rockbox? |
| 01:01:58 | linuxstb_ | SkramX: Yes, Windows itunes will format it as FAT. |
| 01:02:03 | Soap | You don't need itunes in your life. |
| 01:02:03 | SkramX | okay |
| 01:02:19 | Soap | oh, sorry, I missed the part where it was an HFS ipod. |
| 01:02:25 | SkramX | Soap: first i need itunes or to myself format FAT32 |
| 01:02:26 | SkramX | right :) |
| 01:02:44 | SkramX | so I can go format it on windows then plug it into mac osx and even if itunes starts up it will stay fat32? |
| 01:02:50 | Soap | yes |
| 01:02:54 | SkramX | awesome |
| 01:02:55 | SkramX | brb :() |
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| 01:15:12 | XavierGr | hmm I think that it is about time to flash my H140 with rockbox |
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| 01:18:32 | SkramX | okay |
| 01:18:34 | SkramX | done |
| 01:18:43 | SkramX | now how do i confirm it is really FAT32 |
| 01:19:16 | linuxstb_ | Can you use it in Windows? |
| 01:19:22 | XavierGr | dpassen: I am reading the instructions right now |
| 01:19:34 | SkramX | i didnt try really |
| 01:19:40 | SkramX | but it ereased it so it should |
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| 01:23:29 | SkramX | now it wont stay on disk use mod |
| 01:23:30 | SkramX | e |
| 01:24:07 | SkramX | ok think it worked this time |
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| 01:25:42 | Soap | Many people have asked for a basic ebook/HTML/pdf viewer on Rockbox. I was thinking maybe porting a Plucker reader would be more reasonable. Not only is it opensource, it is designed from the ground up to display texts (marked up and not) on a variety of small screens colour and B/W. |
| 01:26:38 | Febs | Seems to me that would be a useful feature. |
| 01:27:16 | Soap | It was designed with the PalmPilot in mind, which I believe means it must be fixed point??? |
| 01:28:10 | ze | i'm not sure why such a thing would use floating point anyway |
| 01:29:00 | ze | or anything but intigers |
| 01:29:08 | Soap | It (plucker reader) requires conversion on the PC side of things, but I think that is very reasonable to expect, and there are plenty of official and third party conversion programs out there to sync webpages, RSS feeds, etc. |
| 01:31:21 | SkramX | ./diskdump -w /dev/disk1 rockboot.bin |
| 01:31:21 | SkramX | This command will complete quite quickly, but if you look at your iPod, you will see that the disk icon is still spinning in the corner. DO NOT disconnect your ipod yet. |
| 01:31:30 | SkramX | it has been going for at least 60 seconds for me |
| 01:31:40 | SkramX | the command that is |
| 01:31:46 | SkramX | :\ |
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| 01:36:28 | RaeNye | I'm trying to compile a .wma enabled build (x5, normal or sim) and get a "make couldn't make 'button-target.h' needed by 'libwma/wmadeci.o' " |
| 01:36:34 | RaeNye | any idea why? |
| 01:36:45 | RaeNye | (wma - FS #4984) |
| 01:37:49 | XavierGr | well I am now officially "flashed"! |
| 01:38:07 | XavierGr | it is rather easy to flash the unit |
| 01:38:12 | XavierGr | well done to Slasheri |
| 01:40:10 | SkramX | damn it something happened and i have to restore the ipid |
| 01:40:15 | SkramX | will it reformat it again? |
| 01:40:38 | dpassen | XavierGr: Love the quick boot |
| 01:41:06 | SkramX | damn it.. it is. |
| 01:41:08 | SkramX | okay |
| 01:41:14 | SkramX | i have to go reformat and do this all over again. |
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| 01:41:51 | XavierGr | dpassen: previously I had a boot up time around 5 seconds |
| 01:42:02 | XavierGr | dpassen: now it is around 4 seconds |
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| 01:44:53 | dpassen | That's it? |
| 01:46:42 | SkramX | mark-s-computer:~ mark$ diskutil unmount /dev/disk1 |
| 01:46:42 | SkramX | mark-s-computer:~ mark$ dd if=/Users/mark/Desktop/mbr-nano2gb.bin of=/dev/disk1 |
| 01:46:42 | SkramX | dd: /dev/disk1: Resource busy |
| 01:46:42 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK SkramX |
| 01:46:42 | SkramX | mark-s-computer:~ mark$ |
| 01:46:44 | SkramX | ? |
| 01:46:59 | dpassen | I haven't done any measurements, but I thought it felt like a larger improvemtn |
| 01:47:33 | SkramX | finally got it right |
| 01:50:37 | XavierGr | dpassen: well rockbox is quite fast even from disc |
| 01:50:46 | dpassen | Indeed |
| 01:51:00 | XavierGr | dpassen but I guess that there are some more advantages with dircache while from flash |
| 01:51:20 | dpassen | I hadn't even tried tagcache until I flashed, it's nice sometimes. |
| 01:52:55 | Soap | when is dircache not nice? |
| 01:53:12 | dpassen | I was talking about tagcache, I always use dircache |
| 01:53:13 | Soap | never fricking mind, you said tagcache dpassen. |
| 01:53:25 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 01:53:25 | * | Soap goes to get his eyes checked. |
| 01:55:33 | SkramX | I installed the boot loader, ejected my ipod, and it goes to an Apple screen then says that it needs to be restored |
| 01:55:37 | SkramX | L: |
| 01:55:40 | SkramX | * :\ |
| 01:55:57 | SkramX | "Use iTunes to restore" |
| 01:56:46 | SkramX | and it doesnt mount normally either :I( |
| 01:59:35 | linuxstb_ | Did you do the extra step needed for the 1.2 Nano? |
| 01:59:42 | SkramX | Oh |
| 01:59:44 | SkramX | Nope |
| 01:59:50 | SkramX | I dont know what version I have, sorry |
| 01:59:52 | SkramX | I totally forgot |
| 01:59:55 | SkramX | what do I need ot od? |
| 01:59:57 | SkramX | *to do |
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| 02:02:41 | SkramX | i'd appreciate the help when you get a chance |
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| 02:02:54 | SkramX | thanks, linuxstb_ |
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| 02:04:12 | linuxstb_ | SkramX: As Soap said earlier, read the installation from Windows instructions - those will tell you what you need to do on your Mac. |
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| 02:16:21 | Kalthare | I just reformatted the partition with a 512-byte logical sector size, and now Linux won't even mount it. FAT: logical sector size too small for device (logical sector size = 512) |
| 02:18:12 | Kalthare | Is there a chance this quadruple-sector problem is what's giving ipodpatcher so much trouble? |
| 02:19:13 | linuxstb_ | Probably. ipodpatcher uses the Rockbox code to parse the partition table. |
| 02:21:41 | Kalthare | I'm gonna go get some food. I'll keep trying at this problem, but I really think it's bigger than me. :( |
| 02:25:45 | rigel | who even listens to the radio anyway? |
| 02:25:55 | rigel | i have an h10. it does in fact have a radio |
| 02:26:54 | rigel | looks like noones said anything about the h10 since i was jibbering about the last 3 days' builds screwing up the screen? |
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| 02:36:14 | * | RaeNye snaps his finger |
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| 02:47:45 | barrywardell | rigel: try resetting your settings |
| 02:48:49 | bgmrk | he left |
| 02:48:54 | bgmrk | apparently he can't wait for help |
| 02:49:58 | rigel | i didnt leave |
| 02:50:09 | bgmrk | oo opps |
| 02:50:16 | bgmrk | my bad |
| 02:51:02 | SkramX | Cannot open firmware image file apple_sw_5g_rcsc.bin |
| 02:51:04 | SkramX | ? |
| 02:51:36 | rigel | where do i reset them? |
| 02:51:42 | SkramX | oh |
| 02:51:44 | SkramX | mu nad! |
| 02:52:03 | rigel | and did the buttons change again? |
| 02:52:10 | rigel | the buttons are swapped it seems |
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| 02:53:26 | barrywardell | rigel: in Manage Settings in the menu |
| 02:54:19 | rigel | you need to step me through it, because i cant navigate this for shit |
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| 02:55:18 | rigel | nm, i got it |
| 02:55:29 | rigel | but "upside down" is both upside down AND mirrored |
| 02:55:34 | rigel | instead of simply upside down |
| 02:56:42 | barrywardell | yes, i know. that will be fixed |
| 02:56:47 | rigel | ok |
| 02:57:25 | rigel | any progress on the scrollpad? |
| 02:57:37 | barrywardell | no |
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| 02:57:50 | rigel | heh |
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| 03:38:51 | Captain_A | how can i run my c files |
| 03:38:56 | Captain_A | like to see if it works |
| 03:39:06 | Captain_A | or what it actually doezx |
| 03:40:33 | scorche | you would have to compile them... |
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| 03:49:11 | Captain_A | its been compiled |
| 03:49:15 | Captain_A | it is a .c file |
| 03:49:48 | scorche | that doesnt mean it is compiled... |
| 03:50:15 | Captain_A | thats what the tut said |
| 03:50:23 | Captain_A | i typed it into the compiled |
| 03:50:26 | Captain_A | then hit compile |
| 03:50:42 | scorche | what compiler? |
| 03:50:56 | Captain_A | Dev C++ |
| 03:51:04 | Captain_A | www.bloodshed.net |
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| 03:52:11 | Captain_A | so it isn't compiled? |
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| 04:05:41 | Greeko | hello |
| 04:06:03 | Captain_A | hello |
| 04:06:06 | Greeko | does anyone have RockBox installed on a Video iPod that has/had the newest firmware on it (Version 1.2) |
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| 04:23:52 | Greeko | alright |
| 04:23:54 | Greeko | thanks anyways |
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| 05:11:27 | zardoz1138 | can someone tell me how to get the Irocker wps to work |
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| 05:12:26 | zardoz1138 | hello |
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| 05:20:40 | zardoz | is anyone out here |
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| 05:23:37 | Davide-NYC | I found a bug (I think) |
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| 05:26:15 | zardoz | can someone tell me how to get he irocker wps theme to work |
| 05:26:33 | Soap | what is wrong? |
| 05:27:04 | Soap | from what you've told me, for all I know you are trying to get it to work on an Archos. |
| 05:28:47 | zardoz | soap are u responding to my question? |
| 05:29:16 | zardoz | i have an Ipod 5g |
| 05:31:58 | Soap | ok, so in what way isn't it working? |
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| 05:35:36 | hav0k | hey, how do i know where my eyepod is located? like, /dev/sda or what not |
| 05:36:11 | pagefault | what desktop environment are you using |
| 05:36:22 | pagefault | usually it's in /meda/sd<something> |
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| 05:36:27 | pagefault | and it will show up on your desktop |
| 05:36:57 | hav0k | im using gnome (ubuntu) and under /media it's ipod |
| 05:37:09 | hav0k | it's on my desktop, its mounted |
| 05:37:26 | pagefault | if you go to the desktop and type df |
| 05:37:29 | pagefault | it will tell you the mounts |
| 05:37:32 | pagefault | and where they are located |
| 05:37:36 | hav0k | okay, cooool |
| 05:37:58 | hav0k | does /dev/sdb2 sound right? |
| 05:38:07 | pagefault | that sounds right |
| 05:38:19 | hav0k | alright, cool |
| 05:38:25 | pagefault | it's completely random |
| 05:38:33 | hav0k | and is there anything else i should know outside of the instructions on the site |
| 05:38:59 | pagefault | couldn't tell you with an ipod |
| 05:39:02 | pagefault | I have an iriver |
| 05:39:07 | hav0k | and will i still be able to put stuff on it |
| 05:39:22 | hav0k | do i need any special programs or anything, or can i just move the files right to the eyepod |
| 05:39:24 | pagefault | I assume you just copy the music over |
| 05:39:40 | hav0k | okay, is that how the iriver works |
| 05:39:48 | pagefault | yes |
| 05:39:48 | hav0k | that's what i was guessing too |
| 05:39:59 | pagefault | make a folder in the root called music |
| 05:40:04 | pagefault | and put your things there |
| 05:40:11 | hav0k | do you like rockbox more than the iriver firmware? |
| 05:40:16 | pagefault | yes much more |
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| 05:40:35 | hav0k | cool, yeah, i want to change it up, and it sounded like there was alot more too it, audio wise |
| 05:40:46 | hav0k | does it have to be in my root? |
| 05:40:48 | pagefault | I finally get ogg support on my h10 |
| 05:40:51 | hav0k | cause i have it in my home directory |
| 05:41:01 | hav0k | yeah, ogg support is the main reason im doing it |
| 05:41:35 | pagefault | usually root but I would read the manual to be honest |
| 05:41:43 | hav0k | okay |
| 05:41:47 | pagefault | I have heard ipods are slightly different |
| 05:41:57 | pagefault | I don't want to brick your shiny ipod |
| 05:42:02 | hotsoda | anyone interested in the zune? |
| 05:42:24 | hav0k | im a little interested, they look pretty neat |
| 05:42:35 | hav0k | my eyepod isnt shiny |
| 05:42:41 | hav0k | and it's working kinda crappy lately |
| 05:42:54 | hav0k | it freezes like onces a day |
| 05:42:56 | pagefault | i've honestly never used one |
| 05:43:12 | hotsoda | an ipod? |
| 05:43:18 | pagefault | the UI reminds me of an old mac |
| 05:43:23 | hav0k | yeah, its a pain, so im hoping this will be better |
| 05:43:34 | hav0k | and plus, i like messing with different stuff |
| 05:43:38 | hav0k | hence, why i have linux |
| 05:43:43 | volt | i forget if it was Scorche or Shapre (I think Scorche) but whichever did the ipod thing with keybank, anything happen from that yet? |
| 05:44:01 | hav0k | huh? |
| 05:44:08 | hav0k | i need more context volt |
| 05:44:10 | pagefault | some other fellow here had ipl on it here |
| 05:44:31 | hav0k | ipodlinux |
| 05:44:49 | hav0k | yeah, i was reading somewhere that they put ipodlinux on it and then put rockbox on it, and it was supposed to be easier |
| 05:44:57 | hav0k | but i like the idea of doing it straight up |
| 05:45:04 | pagefault | with my iriver it was easy |
| 05:45:06 | hotsoda | ive used ipod linux on my 4g |
| 05:45:07 | volt | hav0k there was some offer key had in late august to early september where if you open a keybank acct you get a free ipod, just throwing that question out there to see if he's at his computer or something :) |
| 05:45:17 | pagefault | I just deleted some files and replaced the bootloader and rebooted |
| 05:45:46 | hav0k | oh |
| 05:45:51 | hotsoda | honestly the interface is a lot better than rockbox's, but it had trouble playing my mp3 files at high bitrates |
| 05:46:18 | pagefault | but I did flash it to a USB mass storage device from MTP device |
| 05:46:23 | pagefault | I hate that media player crap |
| 05:46:30 | hav0k | ah |
| 05:46:54 | pagefault | so it's like a korean h10 now |
| 05:46:56 | pagefault | but in english |
| 05:47:07 | hav0k | haha |
| 05:47:25 | pagefault | the EU has a volume limit on it |
| 05:47:29 | pagefault | thanks to some stupid french law |
| 05:47:43 | hav0k | so is it best to just follow the instructions on the site? am i supposed to format it? |
| 05:48:03 | Soap | only need to format it if it is not FAT32 |
| 05:48:08 | Soap | ie, HFS+ |
| 05:48:15 | Soap | they came in no other FS |
| 05:48:52 | hav0k | im pretty sure its already fat32 |
| 05:49:50 | hav0k | just kidding, its in vfat |
| 05:49:59 | pagefault | same thing? |
| 05:50:05 | hav0k | i dont know |
| 05:50:34 | hav0k | "windows virtual fat" |
| 05:50:39 | Soap | vfat isn't a filesystem, it is |
| 05:50:41 | Soap | yeah |
| 05:50:54 | Soap | that's cool |
| 05:50:58 | hav0k | so i should format it? |
| 05:50:59 | hav0k | no? |
| 05:51:04 | Soap | no need |
| 05:51:08 | hav0k | alright, cool |
| 05:51:12 | Soap | you can put your music wherever you want. |
| 05:51:33 | Soap | The only reason it would be more complicated than that is if you are using tagcache. |
| 05:51:43 | hav0k | tagcache? |
| 05:52:08 | pagefault | lets you browse by id3 tags |
| 05:52:13 | hav0k | oh |
| 05:52:14 | Soap | a tag-based database of tracks, much like (but not the same as) the ipod's native database view. |
| 05:52:15 | pagefault | but you need to build the db |
| 05:52:25 | hav0k | okay |
| 05:52:33 | pagefault | or wait for the player to do it |
| 05:52:39 | hav0k | so do i need to do anything before i install the bootloader? |
| 05:53:00 | hav0k | extract the apple firmware |
| 05:53:10 | Soap | follow the instructions to the letter |
| 05:53:12 | Soap | read the manual |
| 05:53:16 | hav0k | okay |
| 05:53:31 | hav0k | what do you mean by manual? the instructions |
| 05:53:32 | Soap | search the forums for any questions, that kind of thing. |
| 05:53:37 | Soap | The manual |
| 05:53:47 | Soap | not the wiki instructions, though you should start ther. |
| 05:53:49 | Soap | *there |
| 05:53:57 | Soap | There is a proper manual also. |
| 05:54:50 | hav0k | oh, okay, ill look for it... im using the instructions off the home page |
| 05:55:02 | pagefault | well good luck with it |
| 05:55:12 | Soap | Click "daily builds" link on the left side of the www.rockbox.org website, and there is a pdf manual link under each targert, and also a manual link at the bottom of the page for html formatted, etc. |
| 05:55:21 | pagefault | if you follow them you should have no problem |
| 05:55:35 | hav0k | okay |
| 05:55:36 | pagefault | just read them very carefully |
| 05:55:57 | hav0k | okay |
| 05:56:05 | hav0k | yeah dont want to mess up my ipod |
| 05:56:31 | pagefault | I wonder if it's possible actually |
| 05:56:44 | hav0k | haha, to mess up my ipod? |
| 05:56:53 | pagefault | do you do any flashing? |
| 05:57:09 | hotsoda | as long as you can mount it, you can't really brick it |
| 05:57:23 | hav0k | i dont do any flashing |
| 05:57:45 | pagefault | ah |
| 05:57:50 | pagefault | thats pretty cool then |
| 05:58:06 | * | Soap got arrested in 1985 for doing some flashing to Jodi Foster. |
| 05:58:12 | hav0k | hahaha |
| 05:58:31 | pagefault | I think i've used iriver system software restore like 3498349 times now |
| 05:58:47 | hav0k | cause of rockbox? |
| 05:58:57 | pagefault | from formatting the device |
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| 05:59:08 | pagefault | clean format |
| 05:59:18 | pagefault | install base system firmware |
| 05:59:24 | pagefault | overwrite it with rockbox |
| 05:59:29 | pagefault | have fun |
| 05:59:40 | hav0k | ill try |
| 05:59:41 | hav0k | haha |
| 05:59:48 | hav0k | i might be back on here if i get confused |
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| 06:00:02 | pagefault | the USA firmware util doesn't recognize my player anymore |
| 06:00:05 | pagefault | I have to use the asian one now |
| 06:00:08 | pagefault | I love it |
| 06:00:13 | hav0k | haha |
| 06:00:39 | pagefault | was all done on purpose though |
| 06:00:44 | pagefault | MTP is an evil protocol |
| 06:01:43 | pagefault | the MTP guys are pretty screwed when they use rockbox they have to take out the battery to sync their much with rockbox |
| 06:01:50 | pagefault | and boot in emergency mode |
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| 06:08:25 | pagefault | this is so awful converting C++ to C |
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| 06:21:38 | hav0k | hey, i was following the instructins in the manual |
| 06:21:45 | hav0k | and i got to this part about doing: |
| 06:22:01 | hav0k | dd if-/dev/sdb of-mbr.bin count-1 |
| 06:22:27 | hav0k | but it says dd: unrecongnised operand 'if-/dev/sdb/ |
| 06:22:58 | hav0k | any ideas? |
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| 06:27:08 | hav0k | anyone still here? |
| 06:27:51 | hav0k | oh, nm |
| 06:28:25 | hav0k | ha, i got a segmentation fault |
| 06:30:07 | hav0k | when im backing this stuff up, where is it puting it? |
| 06:30:25 | pagefault | uh |
| 06:30:27 | pagefault | no idea |
| 06:30:32 | pagefault | because I am ipodless |
| 06:30:38 | hav0k | oh, okay |
| 06:30:46 | pagefault | usually when I have firmware problems |
| 06:30:51 | hav0k | did you not have to extract anything? |
| 06:30:53 | pagefault | it was because the file didn't transfer properly |
| 06:30:57 | pagefault | I copied it again |
| 06:30:58 | hav0k | oh |
| 06:30:58 | pagefault | and it workd |
| 06:31:01 | pagefault | it worked |
| 06:31:16 | pagefault | so |
| 06:31:18 | pagefault | it worked |
| 06:31:22 | pagefault | try that |
| 06:31:28 | pagefault | maybe it was just a usb foobar |
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| 06:31:43 | hav0k | yeah, i dont know |
| 06:32:00 | hav0k | im just trying to figure out where this stuff got backuped to |
| 06:33:16 | hav0k | haha, oh, to my home directory, cause that's where im working from |
| 06:36:06 | pagefault | ah |
| 06:36:09 | pagefault | it worked |
| 06:36:09 | pagefault | ? |
| 06:36:10 | pagefault | haha |
| 06:36:16 | pagefault | do you have a .rockbox |
| 06:36:22 | pagefault | I have no knowledge of ipod rockbox |
| 06:37:39 | hav0k | no, i just saved the bootpartition.bin |
| 06:38:02 | hav0k | im trying to do this next step, but im getting a "Cannot open output file apple_os.bin" |
| 06:38:05 | hav0k | error |
| 06:38:47 | hav0k | hmm, i wish there was someone with ipod that could kinda point me in the right direction |
| 06:43:09 | pagefault | well someone will show up |
| 06:43:13 | pagefault | or post on the forums |
| 06:43:29 | pagefault | right now I am trying to get this SPC codec working |
| 06:43:43 | pagefault | and how to get the second ARM working on my H10 |
| 06:43:48 | pagefault | so I can play at full speed |
| 06:44:15 | pagefault | maybe it is working I am not sure |
| 06:44:23 | pagefault | it's skipping for some songs |
| 06:45:14 | hav0k | that sucks |
| 06:45:17 | pagefault | I like want to just start writing ARM assembly |
| 06:45:28 | hav0k | more power to you |
| 06:45:29 | pagefault | but that will piss off the guys with the non ARM players |
| 06:45:39 | hav0k | im not very knowledgable in code and stuff |
| 06:45:49 | pagefault | well I work on zsnes |
| 06:45:52 | hav0k | i know a little c and that's it |
| 06:45:54 | hav0k | you do? |
| 06:45:55 | pagefault | so SPC is a walk in the park |
| 06:45:58 | pagefault | yeah |
| 06:46:01 | hav0k | thats cool... i use it some |
| 06:46:16 | pagefault | not using our SPC core though since it's all x86 asm |
| 06:46:19 | pagefault | using a friend's |
| 06:46:20 | hav0k | i have zsnes and the port of snes9x |
| 06:46:39 | Quazgaa | zsnes is sweet |
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| 06:46:53 | pagefault | if I get this working right NSF is next |
| 06:46:53 | hav0k | i think it works better on linux, for me atleast |
| 06:47:15 | hav0k | oh hey Quazgaa, do you know anything about ipods? |
| 06:47:20 | hav0k | and this rockbox installation thing? |
| 06:47:33 | pagefault | I really suck at this rockbox coding thing though |
| 06:47:41 | pagefault | I am not familiar with the code |
| 06:47:43 | Quazgaa | i dont know anything about ipods |
| 06:47:47 | hav0k | ah |
| 06:47:50 | hav0k | that's cool |
| 06:47:51 | pagefault | I am just putting my code everywhere |
| 06:47:55 | pagefault | it's a mess |
| 06:49:06 | pagefault | I have no idea why no one finished the module player |
| 06:49:15 | pagefault | the library compiles perfectly once you make the folders for it |
| 06:51:08 | hav0k | switching to root did it |
| 06:51:25 | Quazgaa | heh |
| 06:51:30 | Quazgaa | now that i could have told you ;p |
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| 07:10:40 | Davide-NYC | I can;t seem to change the default recording directory |
| 07:10:47 | Davide-NYC | is this by design? |
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| 07:12:17 | aliask | Anyone familiar with editing BDF files around? |
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| 07:25:17 | pagefault | hmm |
| 07:26:13 | Kalthare | Dammit, I'm losing my stack pointer somewhere in fat_mount() :( |
| 07:32:54 | Quazgaa | Kalthare: sounds like a bad date |
| 07:36:53 | Kalthare | Quazgaa: yes, thank you, that's very damn helpful |
| 07:38:24 | ze | Kalthare: it would've been if you relaxed and laughed and let it give you pause for a moment |
| 07:38:27 | ze | :p |
| 07:43:59 | Kalthare | That's not exactly my style of comedy. |
| 07:45:38 | midkay | it amused me! |
| 07:46:01 | ze | heh |
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| 07:57:55 | RaiderX | can someone add me to the wikiuser group so i can add my theme to the theme page? |
| 07:58:22 | midkay | surely! |
| 07:58:26 | midkay | your username? |
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| 07:58:32 | RaiderX | AnthonyRussell |
| 07:58:40 | RaiderX | thanks |
| 07:59:09 | scorche | RaiderX: i added you, and said so in the forums... |
| 07:59:15 | RaiderX | i saw |
| 07:59:19 | RaiderX | but u didnt add me |
| 07:59:20 | RaiderX | :/ |
| 07:59:35 | RaiderX | i get that error and it doesnt show me in the list |
| 07:59:35 | scorche | did too >_> |
| 07:59:36 | midkay | two Ls, scorche. you put "russel". |
| 07:59:41 | RaiderX | lol |
| 07:59:44 | scorche | bah! |
| 07:59:56 | midkay | i fixed it for you. |
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| 08:00:01 | RaiderX | k thanks |
| 08:00:04 | scorche | T_T |
| 08:00:09 | RaiderX | dont worry, even i typo my own name |
| 08:00:10 | scorche | see what i mean? |
| 08:00:20 | scorche | useless and a burden on society =( |
| 08:00:26 | midkay | what, you? |
| 08:00:37 | scorche | of course! |
| 08:00:38 | RaiderX | on the other theme page it says "Athoyn Russell" |
| 08:00:43 | RaiderX | lol |
| 08:00:48 | midkay | haha. |
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| 08:24:11 | RaiderX | hey i attached my file to the wiki and it shows a box that says the attachment in it at the bottom of the page now.. how do i upload w/o getting that there? |
| 08:25:07 | RaiderX | or is is supposed ot be there? |
| 08:25:17 | RaiderX | oh wait |
| 08:25:19 | RaiderX | nvm |
| 08:25:22 | RaiderX | im stupid |
| 08:25:35 | RaiderX | had to click hide |
| 08:25:42 | RaiderX | k cya all |
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| 10:22:53 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Hello all |
| 10:23:23 | Kalthare | Hi |
| 10:23:30 | Dj_Killa_Kill | ;) Hi |
| 10:23:41 | Dj_Killa_Kill | So is any1 here good with patching RockBox? |
| 10:23:46 | Dj_Killa_Kill | I feel in the dark |
| 10:24:05 | hcs | whaddya need? |
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| 10:24:30 | Dj_Killa_Kill | sorry |
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| 10:24:44 | Dj_Killa_Kill | I need help with the DevKit, I cant find a copy |
| 10:24:55 | hcs | what os are you running? |
| 10:25:04 | Dj_Killa_Kill | WinXP Pro |
| 10:25:12 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Im new at this open code stuff |
| 10:25:19 | scorche | Dj_Killa_Kill: what "devkit" are you talking about? |
| 10:25:24 | hcs | I point you here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 10:25:36 | Dj_Killa_Kill | I got that |
| 10:25:40 | scorche | hcs: point him to VMware instead ;) |
| 10:25:53 | Dj_Killa_Kill | but the ../tools/configure comand dont work :( |
| 10:26:08 | hcs | did you check out the source from CVS? |
| 10:26:08 | scorche | ...as i said... |
| 10:26:26 | Dj_Killa_Kill | I downloaded it from the page |
| 10:26:55 | hcs | and you extracted it, and you're in something like rockbox/build? |
| 10:27:02 | Dj_Killa_Kill | rockbox-daily-20060923.tar.tar? |
| 10:27:11 | Dj_Killa_Kill | yup |
| 10:27:26 | hcs | what do you get when you run ../tools/configure? |
| 10:27:43 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Bash doesnt exist error |
| 10:28:08 | hcs | that indicates to me that you didn't set up cygwin right |
| 10:28:19 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Thats what Im thinkin |
| 10:28:34 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Do I install it in to C:/RockBox? |
| 10:28:43 | hcs | shouldn't matter |
| 10:29:09 | hcs | mine's in c:\cygwin |
| 10:29:13 | Dj_Killa_Kill | same |
| 10:29:37 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Ill try to reinstall it to see if I can recreate the error |
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| 11:05:11 | Kalthare | Okay, I think I've finally identified what's goign on with the 5.5G iPod. |
| 11:06:05 | Slasheri | PaulJam: do you have any test files to reproduce the issue with tags being incorrectly written to the changelog? |
| 11:07:43 | PaulJam | wait a moment, i can send you a file. |
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| 11:10:03 | linuxstb_ | Kalthare: So what's going on? |
| 11:10:46 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: It's like amiconn said, actually. The hard drive's actually got 512-byte sectors, but it's presented as 2048-byte sectors over the USB connection, presumably for faster transfers. |
| 11:11:25 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: So the FAT code needs to be modified to be able to handle a logical sector size of 2048 on a physical one of 512. |
| 11:12:17 | linuxstb_ | Have you looked at the FAT code? |
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| 11:12:50 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: To say the least. ;) I've been trawling through it all day. |
| 11:13:26 | linuxstb_ | Open up firmware/common/disk.c and go to line 79. |
| 11:13:32 | amiconn | Sounds like quite some work. The FAT driver currently assumes sector_size == 512, and refuses to work with any other size |
| 11:14:01 | linuxstb_ | Isn't it just a case of multiplying size and start by 4 in disk_init() ? |
| 11:14:07 | amiconn | And here it's even a mix... |
| 11:14:13 | amiconn | Nope |
| 11:14:24 | amiconn | The disk still has 512-byte sectors |
| 11:14:35 | Kalthare | linuxstb_: Actually, the partition map gets translated automatically by the iPod. |
| 11:14:42 | amiconn | Just the filesystem is laid out as if it were 2048-byte sectors |
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| 11:15:32 | amiconn | fat.c is where most (all?) of the work has to be done |
| 11:16:03 | Kalthare | I think I can handle it almost completely in fat_readwrite(). |
| 11:16:16 | amiconn | What about the FAT cache? |
| 11:16:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 11:17:05 | Kalthare | Er, does that go around it? |
| 11:17:11 | Slasheri | PaulJam: hmm, the dcc failed: |
| 11:17:17 | Slasheri | |12:16 [freenode] DCC SEND from PaulJam [84.188.210.128 port 61166]: 01_Black_Winter_Day.mp3 [5MB] |
| 11:17:20 | Slasheri | |12:16 [freenode] DCC can't connect to 84.188.210.128 port 61166 |
| 11:17:50 | PaulJam | ok then i will upload it somewhere |
| 11:17:51 | Slasheri | do you have a firewall or wrong ip address? |
| 11:17:53 | Slasheri | ok :) |
| 11:18:10 | crwl | BROAAARR |
| 11:18:15 | PaulJam | i use a router, propably it is that |
| 11:18:17 | Slasheri | morning crwl ;) |
| 11:18:21 | Kalthare | Well, I've got to get to bed soon. Unless you'd rather take care of it, I'll look into it in the morning. |
| 11:18:33 | Slasheri | PaulJam: ah, yes. that prevents dcc from working unless ports are routed properly |
| 11:18:39 | amiconn | PaulJam: You need to configure the router correctly for dcc send to work |
| 11:19:21 | crwl | Slasheri, good morning :) |
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| 11:32:40 | Rock140 | Hello? :) |
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| 11:36:17 | Slasheri | hmm, what do you think if all threads would receive SYS_POWEROFF during shutdown and after all threads have removed themselves by remove_thread(NULL), removing the last thread would poweroff the device? |
| 11:36:38 | Slasheri | that would make sure that all threads gets time to save their data |
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| 11:37:39 | markun | Slasheri: sounds great to me |
| 11:38:05 | Slasheri | at least it would be logical to poweroff when there are no more running processes left :) |
| 11:38:16 | Rock140 | Are there any users here who would listen to 20 hours non stop music on rockbox on an almost dauly basis? |
| 11:38:44 | Rock140 | because I do and it seems I have a problem nobody else has |
| 11:39:27 | amiconn | Slasheri: That would force all threads to process SYS_POWEROFF. |
| 11:39:27 | hcs | I would listen to 20 hours nonstop if rockbox would run 20 hours nonstop |
| 11:39:39 | amiconn | Not all threads have an event queue... |
| 11:40:08 | amiconn | ...and a number of threads simply doesn't care about poweroff |
| 11:40:13 | Rock140 | what do you mean if Rockbox would run 20 hours non stop? |
| 11:40:14 | amiconn | ...e.g. the USB thread |
| 11:40:26 | Slasheri | hmm.. |
| 11:40:37 | hcs | I have a 4g ipod, crashes are not unusual |
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| 11:41:24 | Slasheri | amiconn: do you think it is just better to call all shutdown functions to other threads from the main thread? |
| 11:41:26 | Rock140 | ok, that's the thing, I have a H140, which is to my knowledge, quite stable, but I still have the problem that every so often, it will crash for no reason. It's only started happening recently though |
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| 11:42:05 | Rock140 | I might start a thread about it on the forums though, not sure if this is the right place to talk about it |
| 11:42:19 | amiconn | Slasheri: What is wrong with the current poweroff handling? |
| 11:43:12 | Slasheri | amiconn: i am just trying to fix some issues it.. almost done with that (for example, tagcache sometimes hanging, audio playback doesn't stop early etc.) |
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| 11:47:59 | hcs | could someone join me in looking at the playback code for a moment? |
| 11:48:24 | hcs | meh, I'll just put the patch up and let the world decide |
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| 12:13:51 | amiconn | Slasheri: I think any module (not necessarily thread) that needs some action done on shutdown should define a corresponding *_shutdown() function |
| 12:14:54 | amiconn | All these functions would be called by the main shutdown() function. *_shutdown() functions not present on a certain target should be replaced by an empty macro. |
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| 12:17:43 | amiconn | In case there is one thread that needs to handle shutdown asynchronously (but only then!) there could be 2 shutdown functions. |
| 12:17:58 | amiconn | One would send the appropriate shutdown message and return |
| 12:18:16 | amiconn | The second one would block until the shutdown is complete. |
| 12:18:28 | amiconn | Between these 2, other shutdown functions could be called |
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| 12:31:44 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, that sounds good |
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| 13:00:45 | Bagder | now we're 62 committers |
| 13:01:36 | scorche | the family grows and grows....in more ways than one |
| 13:01:39 | linuxstb | Bagder: Let me be the last to congratulate you and Mrs Bagder :) |
| 13:01:43 | scorche | how is the newborn? |
| 13:01:50 | Bagder | thanks |
| 13:01:53 | scorche | bah! |
| 13:01:54 | Bagder | he's eating and sleeping |
| 13:01:58 | scorche | linuxstb: second to last =( |
| 13:02:27 | * | petur looks for some help in enabling GPIO interrupts on iriver h3x0 |
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| 13:04:18 | Bagder | but I'll tell you, it is amazing how you forget how small newborns are :-) |
| 13:04:33 | scorche | hehe...i havent heard a name yet |
| 13:04:49 | Bagder | Rex it is |
| 13:05:55 | scorche | he sounds like he will be a tough nerd =P |
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| 13:07:20 | Bagder | I'll make sure he finds the true way of living! ;-P |
| 13:07:47 | scorche | and what would that be? |
| 13:08:30 | Bagder | in his father's footsteps of course |
| 13:08:36 | Bagder | "look son, this is a flashing led" |
| 13:08:55 | Bagder | "and when you press this button, the CPU resets" |
| 13:09:05 | scorche | i didnt know that they had leds and CPUs back then ;) |
| 13:09:15 | Bagder | hehe |
| 13:09:28 | Bagder | I had to wait until I was a teenager |
| 13:10:27 | Hiker | hey |
| 13:10:39 | scorche | i miss the days of playing games on my apple II |
| 13:10:46 | | Part pixelma |
| 13:11:30 | Hiker | Dunno if anybody remembers the other day, but I mentioend how Fade On Pause/Top doesn't fade smoothly, it fades a bit, stays at that level, fades a bit, stays at that level then finishes fading |
| 13:11:55 | Hiker | well, it isn't just fading it seems. If I adjust the volume, it does the same thing |
| 13:12:08 | Hiker | I enabled the status bar and can actually see it pausing |
| 13:12:37 | Lear | I've seen "uneven" response sometimes since the new scheduler was added. Maybe the same problem here... |
| 13:12:45 | Hiker | I'll mov emy finger at an even pace aroudn the wheel and can see the volume % change, pause, change, pause |
| 13:12:51 | Hiker | ok |
| 13:13:07 | Hiker | I acutally had something interesting happen today actually |
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| 13:13:56 | Hiker | I went into the debug menu and somehow, CPU boot ration was "stufk" at 100%. I left the debug menu and he volume fading was perfect |
| 13:13:56 | stripwax | (how hard can what be?) |
| 13:14:44 | Hiker | lear: I know the wheel is being responsive cos it works perfectly in the file menu. It's the actual volume part that does the pausing |
| 13:15:07 | scorche | Bagder: well good luck with the little one...we are awaiting his first port =) |
| 13:15:22 | Bagder | :-) |
| 13:15:46 | * | linuxstb wonders if 3.0 will be released before Rex's first port... |
| 13:15:57 | Lear | hiker: I'd guess it is the ui thread that doesn't get enough cpu time in some situations. More likely to happen during playback. |
| 13:16:21 | Hiker | yeah. It really looks that way |
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| 13:16:43 | stripwax | Lear/Hiker - the new scheduler should fix that, when it's finished. |
| 13:16:43 | Hiker | it happens 100% of th etime, btw. the volume pausing and fading |
| 13:16:52 | Hiker | crossfade is unaffected tho |
| 13:17:00 | Hiker | ok. cool |
| 13:17:06 | Hiker | I'll let you know if it does |
| 13:17:15 | Lear | stripwax: just a question of tweaking the prioritization, I guess. |
| 13:17:26 | Hiker | I have an iriver but I;ve not updated rockbox on that for a few weeks. I don't really use it much any more |
| 13:17:27 | stripwax | Lear - sort of |
| 13:17:42 | Hiker | so I dunno if it happens on that as well |
| 13:17:56 | linuxstb | I thought the new scheduler was finished, but the problem is the slow codecs on the ipod... i.e. with the old scheduler, music would have paused instead of the UI? |
| 13:17:58 | Hiker | has anybody else using different targets to the ipod nano mentioned it? |
| 13:19:06 | petur | can somebody tell me why this code to enable isp1362 irq causes I40:PDIR1FULL http://pastebin.com/792480 |
| 13:19:08 | stripwax | linuxstb - hm, that would make sense. didn't realise the new scheduler was in cvs yet. I'll try writing a memcpy and memmove for arm.. |
| 13:19:36 | linuxstb | earHertz already did a lot of work on memcpy for ARM - but he's disappeared now... |
| 13:19:57 | stripwax | linuxstb - when you say 'a lot of work' - what does that mean exactly? (is there one, or isn't there? :-) |
| 13:20:28 | linuxstb | Yes, there's on on earHertz's hard drive... I don't think he ever posted his code. He posted a few forum messages with benchmarks. |
| 13:21:02 | Bagder | I recall him basing it on the linux code, but with some tweaks of his own |
| 13:21:03 | stripwax | i'll go check the fora |
| 13:21:19 | Bagder | as linux has asm versions for arm |
| 13:21:45 | stripwax | yep |
| 13:22:08 | linuxstb | stripwax: Do you have an ipod now then? |
| 13:22:15 | stripwax | hrm, can't find any posts about it. |
| 13:22:27 | stripwax | linuxstb - yep, v5g |
| 13:22:35 | linuxstb | It's probably in the old forums and hasn't been moved. Are in the developers group on the forums? |
| 13:22:45 | linuxstb | ^Are you in... |
| 13:23:12 | stripwax | 'Developers group'? - not sure what that means, so probably not :-( |
| 13:23:15 | scorche | linuxstb: he is not on the staff page |
| 13:23:58 | scorche | linuxstb: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5223.0 |
| 13:24:20 | linuxstb | scorche: Yes, plus a few others. I'll move them... |
| 13:24:31 | scorche | alright |
| 13:24:35 | linuxstb | Not sure where though.... |
| 13:24:36 | stripwax | thx |
| 13:24:49 | Lear | Anyone who knows if "$(PROFILE_OPTS)" was deliberately left out of the libfaad makefile, or if just never got added? |
| 13:24:52 | scorche | hehe...that is why i gave you a link |
| 13:25:12 | scorche | i would suggest either compiling or general |
| 13:25:26 | linuxstb | I'll just stick them in the "Getting Started and Compiling" forum - I think of that as the forum for development... |
| 13:25:27 | scorche | i would go with general myself |
| 13:25:30 | linuxstb | Ah :) |
| 13:25:34 | scorche | hehe |
| 13:25:45 | scorche | or compiling forum works =P |
| 13:26:40 | linuxstb | Ah, just found a patch :) |
| 13:26:48 | stripwax | great! |
| 13:28:00 | linuxstb | If you search for memcpy, you should now find all his threads... |
| 13:28:26 | linuxstb | The third hit (code review requested) contains some code. |
| 13:28:45 | stripwax | got it. thanks! |
| 13:29:03 | linuxstb | But it looks like he did a lot more work after posting that patch... |
| 13:30:01 | stripwax | yeah .. :-( |
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| 13:33:08 | stripwax | wow, the C implementation shows up very badly in the graphs. |
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| 13:41:21 | petur | can somebody tell me why this code to enable isp1362 irq causes I40:PDIR1FULL http://pastebin.com/792480 |
| 13:43:25 | PaulJam_ | I was just wondering, wouldn't it be a good idea to make the size of the font cache target specific? since the updates to the nimbus 12 font i had the problem, that the disk was often spinning up while browsing menus or the filetree (with dircache enabled) |
| 13:44:03 | linuxstb | Lear: I've got a feeling profiling didn't work in libfaad. m68k-elf-gcc struggled to compile it normally (various internal compiler errors). |
| 13:44:07 | Lear | Neat. Seems to have fixed an ICE on a profiling build of libfaad by re-introducing a slightly modified inline asm function that was said to provoke an ICE... :) |
| 13:44:46 | Lear | linuxstb: i.e., with profiling enabled on libfaad. So yes, there was a reason it was disabled... |
| 13:44:46 | markun | PaulJam_: it would be even nicer if it could be configured from the menu |
| 13:44:54 | PaulJam_ | for me increasing the font cahche fixed it (or at least i think that it was that that i did) and i don't think a few KB less audiobuffer don't hurt that much. |
| 13:45:08 | linuxstb | PaulJam_: Why target-specific? It just sounds to me like the font cache is too small in general. |
| 13:48:24 | Lear | on 2 MB targets one might want to avoid any increase... |
| 13:48:27 | PaulJam_ | linuxstb: i thought target specific, because of targets that dont have much memory |
| 13:48:53 | Lear | and there seems to be a need to check memory usage on those targets. |
| 13:49:48 | PaulJam_ | but i prefer it to be user configurable in the menu, like markun suggested |
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| 13:51:06 | markun | amiconn: there he is! :) |
| 13:51:18 | Mmmm | uh oh... |
| 13:51:23 | petur | hahaha |
| 13:51:34 | Mmmm | It's fixed now so hopefully he's feeling better |
| 13:51:49 | markun | don't count on it :) |
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| 13:53:29 | Mmmm | I got it working nicely for the irivers but when I was doing the keymaps for the other targets, I forgot to put the new context in them! |
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| 13:53:38 | Mmmm | stupid eh? |
| 13:54:31 | linuxstb | Lear: Does your question about libfaad mean you're thinking about doing some work on it? |
| 13:56:03 | Lear | linuxstb: maybe. want to get a profile run on it at least, to see if I could find some nice spot to look closer at... |
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| 14:02:42 | petur | can somebody explain to me why PDIR1FULL happens when something goes wrong somewhere else? |
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| 14:15:21 | petur | why would or_l(0x10000000, &INTPRI5) generate a PDIR1FULL and or_l(0x00100000, &INTPRI5) not? Both are interrupts attached to GPIO pins... |
| 14:16:37 | petur | unless PortPinAssignments is wrong and something else is attached to GPIO 7 |
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| 14:17:58 | * | petur walks outside to get some fresh air |
| 14:23:29 | petur | nobody? |
| 14:26:57 | linuxstb | Anyone know what SBR is in the AAC decoder? Do we need it? |
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| 14:27:58 | Lear | SBR is used in HE-AAC. |
| 14:28:17 | Lear | So you need it, to (fully) decode some low-bitrate files. |
| 14:28:38 | linuxstb | What about PS ? |
| 14:29:01 | Lear | Also part of HE-AAC, I believe (it's parametric stereo). |
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| 14:30:10 | Lear | HE-AACv1 adds SBR, HE-AACv2 also adds PS. |
| 14:31:32 | linuxstb | Removing the SBR and PS code reduces aac.codec to about 95KB on Coldfire (from over 200KB). |
| 14:32:13 | Lear | Quite a difference... |
| 14:34:10 | linuxstb | Have you tried any HE-AAC files in Rockbox? |
| 14:36:19 | Lear | Nope. |
| 14:36:57 | linuxstb | I'm guessing they are more CPU intensive than LC-AAC? |
| 14:37:01 | Lear | Not many files will play anyway, so I haven't looked much for tht kind of files. |
| 14:37:20 | linuxstb | So what do you think about ripping out that code? |
| 14:38:19 | linuxstb | BTW, what file did you get the ICE in when enabling profiling? |
| 14:38:43 | Lear | Some low-bitrate files will sound worse (or not play at all), so I'm not so sure about it. For flash devices, support could be nice. |
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| 14:39:07 | Lear | sbr_hfgen.c |
| 14:39:27 | linuxstb | You could try disabling SBR in common.h |
| 14:39:53 | Lear | But using a slightly modified version of the asm MUL_C fixed that. |
| 14:41:20 | linuxstb | So you've got MUL_C working? |
| 14:44:20 | Lear | Btw, you don't happen to know which fft tables are the most commonly used in cfft.c? |
| 14:44:23 | Lear | Yep. |
| 14:45:10 | linuxstb | No, I don't know. |
| 14:45:20 | linuxstb | Which version of gcc? |
| 14:45:24 | Lear | 3.4.6. |
| 14:46:47 | amiconn | The aac size reduction would probably help to reduce the codec buffer size - if vorbis wasn't as large as it is... |
| 14:47:00 | amiconn | It's the second-largest codec after aac |
| 14:47:05 | Lear | But vorbis isn't that large, is it? |
| 14:47:12 | amiconn | It's almost the same |
| 14:47:19 | linuxstb | About 100KB |
| 14:47:30 | amiconn | You have to compare the whole memory size it occupies, not only the loadable part |
| 14:47:53 | linuxstb | True. Plus I think vorbis is one of the heavy malloc users as well. |
| 14:48:33 | Lear | Indeed. Some files currently require some 600 KB... |
| 14:48:33 | amiconn | On coldfire, aac occupies 387332 bytes. vorbis occupies 331820 bytes |
| 14:48:46 | amiconn | That's binary + bss |
| 14:49:22 | amiconn | The malloc buffer is separate, and a thing I would really like to get rid of |
| 14:51:52 | Lear | Would be nice, but quite a bit of codec work required for that... |
| 14:52:08 | linuxstb | If you remove SBR and PS, the AAC codec occupies 126760 bytes (plugin_end_addr = 0x32f1ef28 |
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| 14:58:29 | amiconn | If vorbis.codec can be made smaller as well, we might be able to reduce the codec buffer to 256KB |
| 14:58:44 | amiconn | No. 3 size-wise is mpc.codec |
| 14:58:58 | amiconn | 162512bytes |
| 14:59:32 | Lear | Vorbis uses a fair amount of bss data to reduce the need for malloc (and avoid stack overflows)... |
| 14:59:35 | pondlife | Any mileage in allowing the user to configure codec buffer sizes? For people who only use MP3 for example... Obviously this would result in codec failure if they tried to use a larger one.... |
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| 15:01:25 | amiconn | The codecs are statically linked, so configurable buffer won't work |
| 15:01:38 | pondlife | Of course... |
| 15:02:39 | amiconn | Those who are able to compile could do it themselves, by reducing the codec buffer size and not building those codec which don't fit |
| 15:02:48 | pondlife | That's what I do |
| 15:03:02 | pondlife | Well, the former at least |
| 15:03:34 | amiconn | It's not that important for me to do that, even though I never use anything else than mp3 during normal use |
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| 15:04:33 | linuxstb | What about combining the codec and codec-malloc buffers, and then reducing the combined size? |
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| 15:05:38 | amiconn | But there is an different optimisation that could be done without changing the codec loader itself - the swap buffers for voice<->main codec could be allocated with buffer_alloc, only occupying the size for swapping mpa.codec |
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| 15:06:43 | amiconn | The necessary values are stored in the codec header |
| 15:08:27 | amiconn | The other option would be a statically linked voice codec, only leaving the iram swap |
| 15:09:10 | pondlife | But would that waste a little space on non-voiced configurations? |
| 15:09:44 | linuxstb | Yes, but I wouldn't object to it if it helped make the voice code simpler and more reliable. |
| 15:10:06 | pondlife | Me too, but the swapping would still be needed |
| 15:10:16 | pondlife | That's the main problem |
| 15:10:27 | amiconn | Yes, but iram only |
| 15:10:50 | pondlife | Yes, but still need the corresponding locking etc. |
| 15:10:51 | amiconn | ...and with a dedicated memswap() routine, only one buffer would be needed instead of two |
| 15:11:23 | pondlife | We should do that anyway |
| 15:11:31 | amiconn | The swapping could go away if we had a codec that's efficient without using iram |
| 15:11:37 | amiconn | ...or only very little iram |
| 15:11:40 | pondlife | Speex? |
| 15:11:59 | amiconn | The very little iram would be what the core currently leaves unused |
| 15:13:09 | pondlife | How well does MP3 decoding work without IRAM. Mono and low bitrate of course. |
| 15:13:24 | pondlife | Anything like realtime? |
| 15:13:40 | * | amiconn doesn't know |
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| 15:13:53 | amiconn | For voice, 12 or 16kHz mono are sufficient |
| 15:13:54 | linuxstb | What samplerate are the voice files? i.e. do they need to go via the DSP layer? |
| 15:14:03 | amiconn | They do |
| 15:14:10 | amiconn | Current voice files are 12kHz |
| 15:14:10 | pondlife | Which SWCODEC target is slowest? |
| 15:14:18 | linuxstb | Which I guess benefits from having the output samples in IRAM. |
| 15:14:52 | amiconn | On h1x0, the core currently leaves ~600 bytes of iram unused |
| 15:15:01 | linuxstb | pondlife: ipods are probably the slowest, but removing IRAM usage won't make a big difference. Coldfire is the one that needs testing without iram. |
| 15:15:07 | amiconn | h300 has >6300 bytes, x5 even more |
| 15:15:14 | pondlife | Aha, I have one of those!! |
| 15:15:53 | amiconn | But I guess that if we need some more iram for the voice codec, overall iram usage could be reviewed and some iram reclaimed |
| 15:16:00 | pondlife | Why do we not use all of the IRAM? |
| 15:16:26 | pondlife | It still needs adding to the config.h files I guess |
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| 15:20:52 | amiconn | Mmmm: FM seems to work now on Ondio. Thanks. |
| 15:21:09 | amiconn | But the trigger screen still doesn't work 100% on Recorder |
| 15:21:38 | Mmmm | amiconn: no? what doesn't work? |
| 15:22:06 | Mmmm | you cant test the trigger on the sim so i'm working blind there! |
| 15:22:15 | amiconn | You can select settings and change values, but you can't leave it properly without cancelling |
| 15:22:24 | amiconn | Off leaves & cancels, that's correct |
| 15:22:37 | amiconn | Play accepts and leaves - and immediately re-enters |
| 15:23:36 | amiconn | There is also a bug in the archos recording screen observed by pixelma, which I wasn't able to reproduce though |
| 15:24:07 | amiconn | The trigger should show on the recording screen when it's enabled - it did for her but not for me |
| 15:24:12 | Mmmm | ok.. I'll have a look at the trigger...What's the recording screen bug? |
| 15:24:43 | amiconn | But when it shows up, it shows on the same line the volume setting is placed on, i.e. overlays it. |
| 15:25:09 | Lear | linuxstb: removing ALLOW_SMALL_FRAMELENGTH and perhaps LD_DEC would make AAC a bit smaller... Not sure what they mean though. |
| 15:25:09 | Mmmm | So it does show up, but in the wrong place? |
| 15:25:19 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if this is a good idea, but how about moving the IRAM swapping into the kernel? i.e. the codec thread and voice codec thread would both share the same area of IRAM, and the kernel would take care of the swapping. |
| 15:25:30 | amiconn | Looks rather strange, see here: http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/Screendump.bmp |
| 15:25:47 | amiconn | Yes, but somehow it didn't show up for me... |
| 15:26:02 | amiconn | Maybe it has to do with some trigger setting, will investigate |
| 15:26:19 | Mmmm | amiconn: sounds like the trigger doesn't take into account the line variable |
| 15:26:35 | Mmmm | which came about when the AGC was implemented |
| 15:27:11 | amiconn | Hmm, sounds likely |
| 15:27:14 | amiconn | Gtg now |
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| 15:27:38 | Mmmm | should the trigger just be displayed directly below the gain settings? damn... |
| 15:28:02 | linuxstb | Lear: I'm just attracted by the idea of ripping out as much of libfaad as possible - to make it easier to understand and hence optimise. |
| 15:30:05 | Lear | Hm.. LD ought to be low-delay AAC, which I doubt is used in the iTunes or Nero encoders. :) |
| 15:33:32 | Lear | Removing SSR_DEC should be pretty safe too. |
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| 15:45:37 | ScHlAuChi | hello |
| 15:46:14 | ScHlAuChi | just a short question - since i updated the rockbox version on my iriver - rockbox doesnt seem to work anymore. |
| 15:46:22 | markun | which player? |
| 15:46:28 | ScHlAuChi | iHP 140 |
| 15:46:38 | ScHlAuChi | when the firmware starts it says "-5" at the end |
| 15:46:46 | ScHlAuChi | and then jumps to tthe original firmware |
| 15:47:21 | markun | -5 is checksum erro |
| 15:47:23 | markun | r |
| 15:47:43 | ScHlAuChi | i already did windows checkdisk on the drive to make sure its ok - no errors found |
| 15:47:47 | markun | sounds like a corrupt rockbox.iriver |
| 15:48:23 | markun | can you download rockbox again? (or from another day) |
| 15:48:29 | ScHlAuChi | sure |
| 15:48:33 | markun | Or do you install from source? |
| 15:49:15 | ScHlAuChi | i always use daily builds |
| 15:49:19 | Lear | Could be you installed the wrong version too. |
| 15:49:21 | ScHlAuChi | i dont compile them myself |
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| 15:51:24 | ScHlAuChi | hmm would could be is that when i directly move the contents from the zip file tot he iriver |
| 15:51:34 | ScHlAuChi | windows copys them to the TEMP fodler first |
| 15:51:43 | ScHlAuChi | maybe it copys the wrong files from there |
| 15:51:50 | ScHlAuChi | i will directly copy the latest |
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| 15:52:40 | ScHlAuChi | there we go |
| 15:52:50 | ScHlAuChi | it was Windows fault :P |
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| 15:53:06 | ScHlAuChi | when i directly copied the files it worked |
| 15:55:40 | ScHlAuChi | guess for MOD support i need to use the flyspry version |
| 15:56:03 | aliask | markun: What program do you use to add glyphs to BDF fonts? |
| 15:57:31 | ScHlAuChi | thanks for the help - bye |
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| 16:02:41 | markun | aliask: fontforge |
| 16:03:13 | aliask | I tried using fontforge, but after I saved, convbdf wouldn't touch it, saying it was corrupt. Do you have to save with particular settings? |
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| 16:04:37 | aliask | Specifically "Error: EOF on file" and then "Error reading font header". |
| 16:04:57 | markun | aliask: you must save with File -> Generate Fonts |
| 16:05:15 | aliask | Ah, that may be it, I was just hitting control+s |
| 16:09:21 | aliask | Damn, it looks like I just lost all my changes to this font. |
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| 16:21:14 | pondlife | Any voice users out there fancy another patch to test? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 is updated to fix a CPU boosting issue. |
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| 16:22:53 | Ninjab3ar | anyone? |
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| 17:40:46 | petur | what's required to install an isr? |
| 17:42:31 | petur | is this enough to direct GPI5 to my isr? void GPI5(void) __attribute__ ((interrupt_handler, section(".text"))); |
| 17:43:49 | petur | bagder? amiconn? |
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| 17:53:39 | ShadowdogMU | I need a new game to play. |
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| 18:02:46 | gigadelic | hey I have a quick question. I misselected something on one of the menus, and my ipod is frozen on a screen, and I cant get rid of it. What do I do? |
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| 18:03:43 | gigadelic | nvm |
| 18:03:53 | gigadelic | i misunderstood the faq |
| 18:04:01 | gigadelic | thanks alot, and keep up the good work :D |
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| 18:12:21 | petur | aaargh |
| 18:12:30 | markun | what's wrong? |
| 18:12:46 | petur | I don't get my interrupt routine working |
| 18:13:21 | petur | as soon as I enable the interrupts of the isp1362 chip, I get I00: |
| 18:14:12 | petur | so I'm configuring something wrong :( |
| 18:19:04 | petur | wow, looks like these guys have a problem... http://pastebin.ca |
| 18:19:16 | petur | and pastebin.com is dead slow |
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| 18:21:34 | petur | if any knowledgable person is reading: http://rockbox.pastebin.co.uk/1814 |
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| 18:37:58 | * | petur gives up.... |
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| 18:38:48 | Mmmm | are you giving up already?? tut tut.. ;) |
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| 18:41:46 | petur | feeling better already |
| 18:42:15 | Mmmm | lol |
| 18:42:16 | * | pondlife gave up earlier - I think I need lostlogic to help with his idea for http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5082 |
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| 18:44:26 | * | petur hopes recording code is stable - got a gig to tape tonight |
| 18:44:59 | pondlife | My advice is to make sure you don't have voicing enabled. |
| 18:45:22 | petur | will do |
| 18:45:50 | petur | done |
| 18:45:55 | pondlife | Who's the tagcache expert? Slasheri? |
| 18:46:03 | petur | yeah |
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| 19:41:28 | Moos | Hello here |
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| 19:48:24 | volt | I have a question. Is there a way to use an iPod with Rockbox without using iTunes and assorted Mac software? |
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| 19:51:07 | Soap | yes |
| 19:51:30 | Soap | The default behavior of Rockbox is to simply manage your music through "file tree" browsing. |
| 19:52:14 | Soap | Simply put your music in a directory (or more) of your choice and browse to it as in any other file manager and play it from there. |
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| 19:56:59 | volt | Thanks Soap |
| 19:59:56 | Arathis | barrywardell: any further success while testing/adjusting the battery ? |
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| 20:00:13 | barrywardell | Arathis: see my cvs commit a few minutes ago! |
| 20:00:27 | barrywardell | it could probably do with being calibrated for 5/6GB models though |
| 20:00:47 | mh546 | Hi! Can anyone explain to me the difference between bool playing and bool is_playing in mpeg.c? |
| 20:02:11 | Arathis | barrywardell: whoops! I checked the page like one minute before your commit ^^ |
| 20:02:29 | Arathis | sry for asking than |
| 20:02:35 | Arathis | I'll try it out |
| 20:03:10 | barrywardell | what model do you have? |
| 20:03:18 | Arathis | 20gb |
| 20:04:36 | barrywardell | ah, ok. we need to find someone with a 5gb to check if the battery levels are read ok |
| 20:05:21 | Arathis | Perhaps when it's posted at misticriver there'll show up some |
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| 20:09:47 | Arathis | barrywardell: battery status check seems to work fine. but is it possible to directly show the current level instead of counting up? or is that related to the battery scan results? |
| 20:10:28 | barrywardell | what do you mean by counting up? |
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| 20:12:07 | Arathis | it doesn't directly shw the current status, but the battery icon fills up by time up to the actual battery level |
| 20:12:43 | Arathis | as before your commit. just a bit faster |
| 20:13:20 | barrywardell | it should start at the correct level now |
| 20:13:36 | Arathis | it doesn't for me |
| 20:13:38 | barrywardell | what happens if you try starting up again? |
| 20:13:46 | barrywardell | ie turn off, then back on |
| 20:16:55 | Arathis | barrywardell: same thing. it starts at 7% and goes up to 20% (my battery level though I didn't charge it) |
| 20:17:27 | Arathis | I reset and load my previously saved config after updating rockbox |
| 20:19:25 | barrywardell | that's weird. it works fine for me |
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| 20:20:11 | barrywardell | but my battery level is almost full |
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| 20:20:48 | Arathis | using the cvs build from 17:50 GMT btw |
| 20:20:54 | Arathis | not selfcompilied |
| 20:21:04 | Arathis | I'll try charging it to full |
| 20:21:55 | barrywardell | please do and see if works better then |
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| 20:51:16 | barrywardell | hmm. Arathis: i'm experiencing the same problem, but only when i have power connected |
| 20:51:36 | Arathis | had it unplugged |
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| 21:01:11 | t0mas|laptop | hm... is rockbox for the ipod multi-boot with the original firmware? |
| 21:01:34 | t0mas|laptop | like the iriver is... |
| 21:01:34 | Bagder | yes |
| 21:01:40 | t0mas|laptop | what buttons to use? :) |
| 21:01:51 | Bagder | no idea |
| 21:02:12 | t0mas|laptop | hihi, same problem as I have... not looked at the ipod builds for a long time? :) |
| 21:02:47 | Bagder | I don't have an ipod and thus I never really catch the little details in the ipod builds |
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| 21:03:34 | barrywardell | Arathis: can you try this and see if it works for you: http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/rockbox.h10 |
| 21:16:27 | Arathis | barrywardell: I charged it a bit. now it seems to work. (bat at ~35%) |
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| 21:17:37 | Arathis | or not. battery is at 43%. So it started at the last known level before shutdown and reached up to current one |
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| 21:20:04 | barrywardell | is that with the rockbox.h10 i linked above? |
| 21:20:15 | Arathis | no. with the old one |
| 21:20:26 | Arathis | I'll try the new one now |
| 21:20:32 | barrywardell | do, please |
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| 21:25:49 | Arathis | barrywardell: still the same |
| 21:26:25 | barrywardell | I'll have to look at it some more then |
| 21:27:35 | barrywardell | we're probably still not reading the ADC properly |
| 21:30:36 | Arathis | barrywardell: btw: with your rockbox.h10 I0 have an option for color inversion, but not with the one from the beeding edge build |
| 21:31:21 | barrywardell | oh, yes. I added it in my local version. I'll probably add it to cvs soon |
| 21:31:39 | Arathis | thanks! |
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| 22:15:27 | obo | Landus: ping? |
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| 22:17:16 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Good Afternoon All |
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| 22:17:42 | Dj_Killa_Kill | I got cyg going, and I was able to complie myifirst file ever |
| 22:17:45 | Dj_Killa_Kill | lol |
| 22:18:13 | Dj_Killa_Kill | but now when I run the patch command, it asks me what file to patch :( It doesnt say |
| 22:20:01 | obo | what patch command are you using? do you have a -p option in there? |
| 22:20:17 | Dj_Killa_Kill | -p0 |
| 22:20:55 | ivan` | are there any implementations of track ratings in rockbox? |
| 22:21:05 | ivan` | or at least some way to display an integer to the right of the filename? |
| 22:21:32 | obo | try other values - 1 upwards - it depends on how the patch was created - how many levels need to be stripped off |
| 22:21:57 | Dj_Killa_Kill | cant find file to patch at input levlv 165 |
| 22:22:17 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Ill try that though, hopefuly it will gain me some sucsess |
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| 22:29:47 | Dj_Killa_Kill | Sorry about bein a n00b and thanxs for you patience. But when I put the command * patch −−binary -p1 customline.patch * in and it goes right to the next line with no error, but then not confirming anything, is it safe to say it worked? |
| 22:30:43 | obo | I thought it listed the number of hunks... but I could be wrong |
| 22:30:52 | obo | you shouldn't need the binary option |
| 22:31:14 | obo | you can try it again with the −−dry-run option - it should complain if the files have already been patched |
| 22:31:16 | Kalthare | I think it only lists hunks if some of them didn't work. |
| 22:31:30 | Kalthare | It ought to list the files, tho. |
| 22:32:01 | obo | it does if you turn on verbose mode... |
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| 22:33:12 | Dj_Killa_Kill | kk, I patched another file and I see the hunk sucsess list |
| 22:33:23 | Dj_Killa_Kill | i think that might of been file spisific |
| 22:47:21 | pondlife | Hmm, is there an archive of older daily builds anywhere |
| 22:47:35 | pondlife | I'm thinking from the start of August onwards |
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| 22:50:49 | linuxstb_ | pondlife: You'll need to compile yourself from cvs. |
| 22:51:54 | pondlife | OK, just hoping to look into the reports on the ML that there was a fast-responding voice build or 2 in the middle of August. |
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| 23:08:15 | Trunks[x] | Hi. |
| 23:08:18 | Trunks[x] | Is anyone here who can help me? :P |
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| 23:08:39 | Landus | I know this isn't the best channel for this question, but someone here should know the answer. |
| 23:09:33 | Landus | If a motherboard only supports 266/333/400MHz DIMM sticks, I can't put in a DIMM stick that runs at anything above 400MHz, right? |
| 23:11:00 | obo | DDR1?? You should be able to - you might need to manually clock the speed in the BIOS |
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| 23:11:20 | Landus | No. It's DDR2. |
| 23:11:50 | Landus | I'm still looking at hardware, but I faintly recall something about not being able to excede clock speeds with DDR2 RAM. |
| 23:12:06 | Landus | Least I think I do, hence the asking. |
| 23:12:38 | obo | not sure - I haven't had a huge amount to do with DDR2 |
| 23:12:43 | linuxstb_ | Reverie: What's the problem? |
| 23:13:35 | obo | Landus: the issue you were having with the scrobbler patch - were the timestamps in the .scrobbler.log file correct? |
| 23:13:49 | Landus | Uh. |
| 23:14:00 | Landus | I didn't check. The've been correct every other time. |
| 23:14:27 | obo | are you setting a manual offset with the perl script? |
| 23:14:46 | Landus | No. The logfile. |
| 23:15:19 | obo | huh? you're changing the values in the log? |
| 23:15:39 | Landus | If you change the #TZ/UNKNOWN to #TZ/GMT-5, it'll send the offset as -5 GMT. |
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| 23:16:57 | obo | same as if you set -t 5 on the command line |
| 23:17:06 | Landus | Yeah. |
| 23:19:08 | obo | how far out are they? |
| 23:19:27 | Landus | The times? |
| 23:19:33 | obo | yup |
| 23:19:45 | Landus | If I send them as soon as I get home from school, my profile on Last.fm says I listened to them 3 hours ago. |
| 23:19:57 | Reverie | Oh well, there's no problem. |
| 23:19:59 | Reverie | I installed rockbox. |
| 23:20:01 | Landus | But if I keep it running during the night, then send them when I wake up, the times are correct to the dot. |
| 23:20:04 | Reverie | I'm just wondering- is there anyway to dual? |
| 23:20:13 | Landus | Reverie: What DAP do you own? |
| 23:20:17 | Reverie | Like use the original firmware (apple?) and rockbox? |
| 23:20:19 | Reverie | Ipod Nano 4gigs |
| 23:20:27 | Landus | Hrm. There might. |
| 23:20:27 | Reverie | So I could easily switch between two. |
| 23:20:27 | obo | it's dual boot by default |
| 23:20:30 | Reverie | Oh. |
| 23:20:32 | Landus | I know I can on my Iriver. |
| 23:20:33 | Reverie | How do I switch back? |
| 23:20:35 | obo | hold menu as it boots |
| 23:20:40 | Landus | ^ |
| 23:20:42 | Landus | There you go. |
| 23:20:53 | Reverie | Didn't work >_> |
| 23:20:54 | obo | you need to start holding it down right from the point it boots - even before the apple logo |
| 23:21:00 | obo | :) |
| 23:21:27 | Reverie | Oh, I see. |
| 23:21:27 | Reverie | Thanks. |
| 23:21:34 | Reverie | But, is there a way to make the original default? |
| 23:21:39 | Reverie | And rockbox you have to hold menu? |
| 23:22:13 | obo | yes - you can either change the bootloader code yourself, or use loader2 from the ipodlinux project (to get a gui boot menu) |
| 23:22:33 | Reverie | Ehh... I've tried ipodlinux like 20 times and all times I've screwed up haha. |
| 23:22:38 | Reverie | That's why I went to rockbox. |
| 23:22:46 | Reverie | And it worked on my 1st try, so I'm happy |
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| 23:23:34 | tucoz | Landus: Crucial has a great memory finder tool, that will help you see what types of ram your mobo supports |
| 23:23:45 | Landus | It isn't mine. |
| 23:23:48 | Landus | It's one I'm building. |
| 23:23:53 | Landus | For someone. |
| 23:23:56 | Landus | $1,500 cap. |
| 23:24:02 | Landus | I'm going to make this think a tank. |
| 23:24:07 | Landus | Using nVidia SLI technology. |
| 23:24:20 | tucoz | Landus: they even have a support service, where you get to chat with one of their support guys |
| 23:24:25 | tucoz | Landus: ok |
| 23:24:44 | Landus | Irritatingly, the motherboard I planned on using supports only 266/333/400MHz DIMM sticks. |
| 23:25:00 | Landus | DDR2 RAM. |
| 23:25:17 | tucoz | Ok, just thought that they might be able to answer you directly. They helped me a week or so back |
| 23:25:29 | Landus | The DDR2 sticks that's SLI certified don't run below 650Mhz. |
| 23:25:38 | Landus | Minimum. |
| 23:25:42 | tucoz | i see |
| 23:25:50 | Landus | Usually, they're running at 800 or 900Mhz. |
| 23:26:13 | obo | 266/333/400 are DDR1 speeds |
| 23:26:40 | tucoz | ddr2 come in 333 and 400 iirc |
| 23:26:53 | Landus | obo: That's what I thought. |
| 23:27:06 | Landus | I think there's something wrong with the page for the mobo. |
| 23:27:15 | obo | what chipset/processor is it? |
| 23:27:26 | Landus | Unless it's not meant to support SLI certified RAM. |
| 23:27:41 | Landus | I can do even better and give a link. |
| 23:27:49 | tucoz | see you |
| 23:27:50 | Landus | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2191582&Sku=E145-2005 |
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| 23:28:25 | obo | socket 939 is DDR1 - the memory controller is on the CPU |
| 23:28:43 | Landus | 939 is DDR1? |
| 23:28:47 | obo | yes |
| 23:28:55 | Landus | Oh. |
| 23:28:56 | obo | AM2 is DDR2 |
| 23:29:01 | Landus | Ah well. |
| 23:29:05 | Landus | Not a big deal. |
| 23:29:17 | Landus | Just'll use regular DDR1 sticks. |
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| 23:31:08 | Trunks | eh, stupid internet. |
| 23:31:16 | Trunks | Anyways, I'm really confused on this whole rockbox thing, haha. |
| 23:31:27 | Trunks | Any guides, I couldn't find em on .. : How to use Rockbox + skinning it? |
| 23:31:33 | Trunks | Plus the advantages to rockbox. |
| 23:32:08 | ze | did you try rockbox.org? |
| 23:32:11 | obo | Check the WPS pages on the wiki, and the WhyRockbox link off the main page |
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| 23:32:59 | Trunks | Yeah, I have >_>. |
| 23:33:07 | Trunks | Kay, and um, anyone have the cleardabst2 skin? |
| 23:33:10 | Trunks | It's not on the website. |
| 23:33:12 | Trunks | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpodNano/cleardabst2.zip |
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| 23:41:23 | Trunks | So what CAN the rockbox do >_> <_< |
| 23:41:28 | Trunks | I just installed a skin :D |
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| 23:46:25 | Trunks | oic, plugins. I will continue to ask questinos then figure them out myself! |
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| 23:46:43 | linolium | hey... I feel really stupid, but I opened up the snake2 plugin and now I can't figure out how to close it |
| 23:48:04 | Trunks | better then me, I don't even know WHERE to download the plugins |
| 23:48:05 | Trunks | >.> |
| 23:48:16 | obo | linolium: which platform? |
| 23:48:26 | obo | Trunks: you've already got them |
| 23:48:32 | Trunks | Really? |
| 23:48:34 | linolium | obo: 4th gen grayscale ipod |
| 23:49:03 | obo | linolium: try holding select and menu (quickly, if you hold it for > 4 seconds it'll reset) |
| 23:49:37 | Trunks | Yep it works @ obo. |
| 23:49:41 | linolium | ah, thanks |
| 23:49:47 | Trunks | And, I just realized I did have the plugins, haha |
| 23:49:47 | obo | Trunks: press menu, then goto browse plugins |
| 23:49:52 | Trunks | Yep, I got it, thanks obo! :D |
| 23:49:56 | obo | Trunks: you might want to check the manual out :) |
| 23:50:02 | Trunks | Yeah, I am reading it, haha |
| 23:50:05 | Trunks | Thanks :P |
| 23:50:11 | linolium | ok, and another thing.. I tried just connecting it up through firewire and it isn't showing up as a mass storage device in windows... do I have to do something to get it to work? |
| 23:50:16 | Trunks | But, if I wanted to play doom or um pacman, I need to download things, rightie? |
| 23:50:49 | obo | rockbox doesn't detect firewire (it's a bug) - you'll need to reboot and entire the apple firmware, or disk mode |
| 23:51:10 | obo | Trunks: yes - check the wiki pages for each plugin - they'll tell you what you need |
| 23:51:15 | Trunks | okie. |
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| 23:51:30 | linolium | obo, what is disk mode? |
| 23:51:35 | Trunks | Thanks again |
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| 23:51:54 | obo | hold select and play as it boots - you'll need to hard reboot it (by holding select and menu) to exit |
| 23:52:16 | Trunks | It's black and white. |
| 23:52:19 | obo | yes |
| 23:52:22 | Trunks | Should say Disc mode IIRC. |
| 23:52:50 | linolium | I wasn't evenr aware you could get back into the apple firmware with it installed |
| 23:53:13 | obo | you can remove the apple firmware if you really feel like it, but the default is to dual boot |
| 23:53:56 | linolium | one more thing.. in the apple firmware when you turn it off it just goes into sleep mode.. can I get rockbox to do the same thing or does it have to boot down/up every time? |
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| 23:54:27 | obo | it has to boot each time - the apple firmware puts it into a hibernation mode, without really powering it off |
| 23:54:31 | pepie34 | is the latest ipod-video daily build broken? |
| 23:54:37 | Trunks | Oh, and I still can't seem to find this, is there any EASY way to make it so the apple firmware is the normal booting? |
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| 23:55:13 | obo | Trunks: the only methods I'm aware of is to change the source code of the bootloader, or use IPLs loader2 |
| 23:55:25 | Trunks | Do you know how to change the source code? :o |
| 23:55:26 | pepie34 | can have nothing but a black screen when booting seems to be font probleme |
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| 23:55:30 | Trunks | Or do I have to figure that out myself? |
| 23:55:45 | obo | pepie34: tried clearing the settings? boot with the hold switch on |
| 23:56:00 | pepie34 | (I have remove .rockbox and rockbox.ipod again and again) |
| 23:56:13 | obo | Trunks: check the SimpleGuideToCompiling (I think..) on the wiki |
| 23:56:15 | pepie34 | where is the settings file? |
| 23:56:17 | linolium | when you turn it off is it normal for one line on the LCD to stay and slowly fade away? |
| 23:56:24 | Trunks | kk, obo |
| 23:56:29 | pepie34 | i supossed it was in .rockbox |
| 23:56:32 | obo | pepie34: you don't need to remove them - just overwrite with the newer version |
| 23:56:51 | pepie34 | yes but where is the settings file |
| 23:56:55 | pepie34 | ? |
| 23:57:00 | obo | there is no config file - the settings are held on an otherwise unused sector of the hard drive |
| 23:57:12 | pepie34 | :( |
| 23:57:24 | obo | just boot with the hold switch on - that will clear the settings |
| 23:57:30 | pepie34 | ok |
| 23:57:56 | pepie34 | i don't think it is a good idea to keep settings like this |
| 23:58:11 | obo | linolium: I think that's normal on the 4Gs - it won't do any harm, but it's something that needs fixing |
| 23:58:14 | pepie34 | It is one hour i look trought the file tree for this file |
| 23:58:19 | pepie34 | :( |
| 23:58:27 | obo | pepie34: there is a work in progress to move to config files |
| 23:58:50 | pepie34 | ok |
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