| 00:00:02 | linolium | mmmm.. ogg.. :P |
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| 00:01:05 | pepie34 | obo what is the difficulty for putting the config on a file |
| 00:01:09 | pepie34 | ? |
| 00:01:22 | pepie34 | the config file must be read before the VFS is on? |
| 00:01:49 | obo | pepie34: I think that was it, but I can't remember exactly... (but it made sense when I heard it) |
| 00:02:35 | pepie34 | OK seems to be good now |
| 00:04:03 | obo | pepie34: it's worth writing a config file from the "Manage Settings" menu - sometimes the settings are reset when you upgrade |
| 00:04:28 | obo | you can just reload them afterwards |
| 00:05:00 | Trunks | Obo- I can't find the ROM for Pacman, do I have to download it myself? |
| 00:05:17 | obo | Trunks: yes - you need all 6 files |
| 00:05:19 | pepie34 | :) |
| 00:05:24 | linuxstb_ | The main hurdle was that the config sector is cached in the ATA driver and only written to disk when the disk spins up for another reason (or at shutdown). |
| 00:05:26 | Trunks | Where do I download them? :/ |
| 00:05:35 | obo | Trunks: google :) |
| 00:05:44 | Trunks | haha ok. |
| 00:05:53 | obo | see? I knew there was a good reason :D |
| 00:05:54 | Trunks | And to chargnd to pod, it's the exact same thing, righto? |
| 00:05:56 | Trunks | And to upload songs, exact same? |
| 00:06:30 | linolium | um, what does it mean if the ipod is stuck on the Disk Mode: OK to disconnect. screen? |
| 00:06:38 | obo | Trunks: you just need to copy files straight onto the device |
| 00:06:44 | Trunks | Oh ok. |
| 00:06:49 | Trunks | What's the um, file names for pacman >.> |
| 00:07:15 | obo | linolium: if the cable isn't attached, hold menu and select to reboot |
| 00:07:15 | dionoea | linolium: when plugged to the USB ? |
| 00:07:27 | Trunks | nvm got it |
| 00:07:35 | pepie34 | I know why it goes wrong |
| 00:08:04 | pepie34 | I did a dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/ipod/dummy |
| 00:08:07 | pepie34 | rm dummy |
| 00:08:20 | pepie34 | do erase as munch as i can |
| 00:08:23 | linolium | obo, thanks.. for some reason it still isn't showing up as a drive in windows... |
| 00:08:31 | pepie34 | before doing a partition compression |
| 00:09:13 | pepie34 | may be it as destroy your sector |
| 00:09:22 | pepie34 | s/as/has |
| 00:09:48 | obo | linolium: does itunes see it? |
| 00:10:38 | linolium | obo, anything tring to acces it appears to freeze up (explorer, itunes, vpod, the safely remove hardware thing) |
| 00:11:32 | obo | linolium: that's strange - how about booting it into the apple firmware on the ipod and trying again? |
| 00:11:52 | linolium | obo, sorry, how do I do thaht? |
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| 00:12:32 | obo | hold the menu key as it boots |
| 00:13:07 | linolium | it's times like these I wish it had more than 5 buttons... |
| 00:13:37 | obo | yeah, that would be handy |
| 00:20:10 | Trunks | Obo |
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| 00:20:16 | Trunks | So, wait. |
| 00:20:21 | Kalthare | Well, that's it. I'm stumped. Anyone here familiar with the ATA code? |
| 00:20:22 | Trunks | To put songs on, I just drag my folder into my ipod? |
| 00:20:24 | Trunks | Anywhere I want? |
| 00:20:38 | obo | Trunks: yup, just create whatever folder structure you want |
| 00:20:38 | linolium | nice variety of questions :P |
| 00:20:42 | Trunks | woah cool |
| 00:20:50 | Trunks | Tho that will take a while :/ |
| 00:21:36 | Trunks | Holy jesus 20 minutes. |
| 00:22:07 | linolium | that's not terribly long |
| 00:22:11 | Trunks | 30 now >.> |
| 00:22:18 | obo | ah, microsoft minutes |
| 00:22:21 | Trunks | er wtf |
| 00:22:22 | linolium | haha |
| 00:22:28 | Trunks | It says my ipod is full |
| 00:22:29 | Trunks | o_O |
| 00:22:35 | linuxstb_ | Trunks: Do you have a Nano? |
| 00:22:39 | Trunks | Yes >_> |
| 00:22:57 | Trunks | I think my songs were already on the nano |
| 00:23:13 | obo | Trunks: checkout the TagCache page on the wiki |
| 00:23:14 | linolium | yeah, with weird-ass names ;P |
| 00:23:14 | linuxstb_ | Then you may want to boot into the Apple firmware for disk mode - it's a lot faster than the emergency disk mode Rockbox reboots into. |
| 00:23:34 | Trunks | Nevermind I got it. |
| 00:23:37 | Trunks | They were in a hidden folde.r |
| 00:23:42 | Trunks | with wierd ass names, like lino says >_> |
| 00:23:52 | Trunks | kk @ linux, thanks. |
| 00:24:09 | linolium | if you want to use mp3's in both rockbox and apple firmware do they have to have weird-ass names? |
| 00:24:59 | obo | linolium: apple has a limit on the length of the path and filename - but look at the TagCache wiki page |
| 00:25:04 | Trunks | btw, obo |
| 00:25:09 | Trunks | Why aren't you a voice, hop or op >_> |
| 00:25:46 | obo | Trunks: cos I'm not that important :) |
| 00:25:49 | Trunks | haha |
| 00:25:51 | linolium | obo, will do after I get the drive to show up.. maybe restarting will fix it |
| 00:25:53 | Trunks | Well you're helpful. |
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| 00:26:04 | Trunks | damn, this nickname is registered. |
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| 00:26:21 | z0de | hi |
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| 00:26:43 | Trun | eh |
| 00:26:46 | z0de | any iAudio X5 owners in? |
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| 00:27:22 | z0de | eh? |
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| 00:34:40 | pondlife | petur: Did your recording work? |
| 00:35:20 | petur | yes, it looks ok but the gain is very low and AGC seems to be screwed up |
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| 00:35:30 | petur | I'm puzzled |
| 00:36:03 | pondlife | You may want to see if my current playback patch helps at all. |
| 00:36:36 | Kalthare | Would I be better off asking for help on the forum or the mailing list? |
| 00:36:37 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6024 - fixes some problems where stopping audio playback doesn't actually stop it all! |
| 00:36:59 | Trunksi | Thanks for all your help obo, <3 Rockbox now. |
| 00:37:10 | pondlife | I think it's almost ready for commit, but more testing is always good |
| 00:37:18 | obo | Trunksi: no problems - good to have another convert |
| 00:37:51 | petur | I had my mic-amp set to the same as usual and the iriver on +15dB and AGC safety on. Normally it ends up a bit below that due to some peaks, but now it ended with a gain _higher_ than started - this is impossible. Also the result is very low gain where as it normally almost clips. |
| 00:37:53 | Trunksi | I'll just continue idling here, another server to add to irc! |
| 00:38:53 | pondlife | Hmm, I don't know much about Rockbox recording, but that definitely sounds like an AGC bug. |
| 00:39:26 | petur | or the gain/peakmeter code |
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| 00:39:41 | pondlife | Has any of that changed recently? |
| 00:39:52 | petur | afaik, yes |
| 00:41:23 | petur | Mike Sevakis has been modifying lots of things in recording - I don't even know how it works anymore :/ |
| 00:43:01 | petur | pondlife: I know nothing about the playback code so I'll just patch my build and see if it acts up |
| 00:43:10 | pondlife | I can only see button action changes, plus http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/recorder/recording.c.diff?r1=1.134&r2=1.135 |
| 00:43:15 | pondlife | OK, that would be good |
| 00:43:28 | petur | but that's for tomorrow - bedtime now |
| 00:43:32 | pondlife | Night night |
| 00:44:20 | petur | and the important recording changes are in firmware/pcm_record.c ;) |
| 00:44:30 | * | petur falls asleep |
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| 00:51:09 | Trunksi | Is there anyway to use rockbox while my ipodnano is charging? |
| 00:51:10 | Trunksi | >.> |
| 00:51:43 | Kalthare | Trunksi: Hold down the Menu button while you connect it. |
| 00:52:29 | Trunksi | okie, thanks |
| 00:52:32 | z0de | any iAudio X5 owners here? |
| 00:52:37 | z0de | while my ipodnano is charging? |
| 00:52:37 | z0de | <Trunksi> >.> |
| 00:52:37 | z0de | <Kalthare> Trunksi: Hold down the Menu butt |
| 00:52:49 | z0de | soz for c/p |
| 00:52:53 | Trunksi | lol |
| 00:53:10 | Kalthare | Trunksi: Keep in mind, tho, it'll charge a lot slower that way. |
| 00:53:21 | z0de | so any iAudio X5 owners here? |
| 00:53:33 | Trunksi | I dont think so zode. |
| 00:53:37 | Trunksi | Um, Kalthare, it's not working :x |
| 00:53:43 | Trunksi | When do I press menu? |
| 00:54:04 | Kalthare | Just have it held down while you plug in the connector. |
| 00:54:13 | Trunksi | k |
| 00:54:32 | Trunksi | oh i see |
| 00:54:34 | Trunksi | ty |
| 00:54:55 | Kalthare | np |
| 00:55:44 | * | pondlife must sleep and dream of faster-reacting voiced files |
| 00:55:52 | Trunksi | Er |
| 00:55:55 | Trunksi | Why is it that when I play songs |
| 00:55:58 | Trunksi | Like no sound comes? |
| 00:56:18 | Trunksi | nvm |
| 00:56:41 | Trunksi | Holy shit, it's LOUD when its at max >_> |
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| 01:32:57 | ivan` | anyone have guesses as to what the battery life would be between ~160k vorbis and ~245k mp3? |
| 01:33:08 | ivan` | on the iAudio X5 which already has crap batteries |
| 01:34:55 | z0de | i dont think bit rate will affect bat life, unless i missunderstood your question |
| 01:36:05 | ivan` | well it would spin up less, but I think the mp3 decoder is more optimized? |
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| 01:38:07 | z0de | but on is on, i doubt software will have much inpact on a small device. the spinning might but im not sure (this is all opinon) |
| 01:38:46 | ze | z0de: its pretty well known that codec and bitrate effect battery life, afaik |
| 01:39:11 | ze | z0de: they affect drive usage of course, and also cpu usage (which also uses power) |
| 01:39:23 | z0de | ok, im new to portable audio so still learning |
| 01:39:40 | ze | higher bitrate does tend to lower the battery life |
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| 01:39:50 | ze | ogg seems to usually tend to lower it vs mp3 |
| 01:40:17 | z0de | k |
| 01:40:42 | z0de | ivan what do you think of the X5? and why didn't you get the X5L |
| 01:41:22 | ivan` | because I needed the 60GB and I just made a battery pack for it the day I got it |
| 01:41:30 | ivan` | it's a great portable |
| 01:41:46 | ivan` | I dropped it 7 feet while running and no damage except a tiny corner scratch |
| 01:42:16 | z0de | cool, any complaints? |
| 01:42:39 | ivan` | the battery life obviously sucks with rockbox |
| 01:42:57 | ivan` | but otherwise it's perfect with rockbox |
| 01:43:02 | ivan` | and you have to make your own sync solution |
| 01:43:33 | ivan` | if it had a few terabytes of flash storage and ran on UHV capacitors I'd be happier |
| 01:44:02 | ivan` | the joystick is in the wrong place |
| 01:44:08 | ivan` | the thing was made by korean lefties or something |
| 01:44:18 | z0de | im a leftie :) |
| 01:44:23 | ivan` | you're in luck then |
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| 01:45:04 | linolium | hello fellow rockboxians! |
| 01:45:11 | ivan` | rockboxers |
| 01:45:17 | linolium | err, sorry |
| 01:45:19 | z0de | im thinking about getting one. hows the sound quality, user interface, song seeking? |
| 01:45:29 | z0de | hi lino |
| 01:45:36 | linolium | anyway, can I charge my monochrome ipod over firewire in rockbox? |
| 01:47:17 | z0de | ivan, still there? |
| 01:47:21 | ivan` | yep |
| 01:47:32 | z0de | so... |
| 01:47:42 | ivan` | oh |
| 01:47:52 | linolium | yesno? |
| 01:48:00 | z0de | hows the sound quality, user interface, song seeking? |
| 01:48:15 | ivan` | the sound quality is studio quality and rockbox's crossfeed for headphones is good |
| 01:48:22 | ivan` | the cowon UI or the rockbox UI? |
| 01:48:31 | ivan` | song seeking accelerates better in rockbox |
| 01:48:34 | Soap | linolium - rockbox doesn't do charging, the apple hardware/firmware does, FW charging should work. |
| 01:48:42 | ivan` | and it works properly and bookmarks |
| 01:48:43 | z0de | rockbox as thats what i'll use |
| 01:48:54 | ivan` | I haven't used the new rockbox UI |
| 01:49:01 | ivan` | but if it's any better than this 2-month-old one |
| 01:49:06 | ivan` | it's acceptable |
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| 01:49:10 | z0de | unless you know of a reason to use cowon.. |
| 01:49:20 | ivan` | 1.5-2x as much battery life? |
| 01:49:41 | ivan` | and a warranty |
| 01:50:01 | z0de | pff just put back the cowen if theres a problem |
| 01:50:14 | ivan` | can't change bootloader without a working hdd and battery |
| 01:50:15 | ivan` | heh |
| 01:50:53 | z0de | and how hard was it to make the battery pack or could i buy one |
| 01:51:18 | ivan` | you can make one in three minutes if you are near a radioshack |
| 01:51:37 | z0de | in the uk, so nearest is a few thousand miles away. |
| 01:51:46 | ivan` | you need an adaptaplug |
| 01:51:53 | ivan` | search the iaudiophile forums |
| 01:51:59 | ivan` | i posted a photo of my completed battery pack |
| 01:52:10 | z0de | got a link? |
| 01:52:13 | ivan` | nope |
| 01:52:17 | ivan` | haven't been there in forever |
| 01:53:05 | z0de | k. thanks for anwsering my q's |
| 01:53:11 | ivan` | .np |
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| 01:53:49 | linolium | Soap: is rockbox planning on ever doing charging? |
| 01:56:52 | linolium | erm, I have it connected to my computer via firewire and I boot up to the apple firmware and it says "no battery" and shuts off... |
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| 02:18:31 | Trunksi | Wait |
| 02:18:36 | Trunksi | So charging doesn't work on the rockbox? |
| 02:21:59 | Captain_A | linuxstb:you here ? |
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| 02:28:13 | linuxstb | Captain_A: Yes. |
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| 03:54:54 | Reverie | how do you go sleepmode |
| 03:54:59 | Reverie | >_> |
| 03:55:12 | Reverie | obo? |
| 03:55:45 | pagefault_ | I wonder if the battery in my h10 is screwed |
| 03:55:53 | pagefault_ | or I just have too much stuff enabled |
| 03:56:04 | pagefault_ | it's dropping 1% like every minute |
| 03:56:15 | Reverie | lol' |
| 03:56:37 | Arathis | the battery isn't adjusted very well yet on the h10 |
| 03:56:47 | pagefault_ | I noticed that too |
| 03:56:55 | pagefault_ | but it shouldn't be dropping so fast |
| 03:57:15 | Arathis | by time we will have at least the same batterlifetime as in the iriver firmware |
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| 03:58:37 | pagefault_ | yeah I am not complaining |
| 03:58:45 | pagefault_ | just curious if my battery is screwed |
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| 04:00:19 | pagefault_ | ah fixed |
| 04:00:22 | pagefault_ | I am a moron |
| 04:00:29 | pagefault_ | I had like every option on the EQ turned on |
| 04:01:08 | pagefault_ | cfg reset fixed problem |
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| 05:01:03 | Terinjokes | hey, i'm trying to restore bootpartition.bin using diskdump, but i'm getting a input/output error |
| 05:01:34 | Terinjokes | any ideas? |
| 05:02:46 | Terinjokes | this is the second time the bootloader has stopped working and diskdump wouldn't work |
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| 05:07:55 | Soap | the bootloader stopping working out of the blue is odd. |
| 05:08:05 | baerman714 | isn't anyone gonna say hello back |
| 05:08:49 | Menisk | No. Who'd say hi to you |
| 05:08:55 | Menisk | retard |
| 05:09:33 | Soap | that's nice, Menisk |
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| 05:09:56 | Menisk | The dud stole an ipod |
| 05:10:00 | Menisk | and laughed at it |
| 05:10:02 | Menisk | cmon |
| 05:10:08 | baerman714 | found, not stole |
| 05:10:31 | Menisk | no you stole |
| 05:10:44 | midkay | what's this about. |
| 05:11:11 | Menisk | Darthshrine, where are the logs? |
| 05:11:22 | Soap | oh, I though I had /ignored that worthless fuck. |
| 05:11:31 | Menisk | show midkay the logs |
| 05:11:31 | Terinjokes | yes, and it's happened twice... |
| 05:11:46 | midkay | ah, i see it.. |
| 05:11:49 | midkay | haha. |
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| 05:12:01 | baerman714 | Give me a break i found an ipod and they say I stole it |
| 05:12:16 | Terinjokes | and i *found* a mac book pro |
| 05:12:23 | Soap | you watched a guy plug it in at the apple store, you watched him leave the room, and you pocketed it. |
| 05:12:34 | midkay | what sort of idiot.. |
| 05:12:39 | Menisk | And i found this kidney when i cut the guy open |
| 05:12:40 | DarthShrine | Menisk: On the Rockbox site.. |
| 05:12:45 | * | Terinjokes wishes he had a macbook pro |
| 05:13:26 | baerman714 | i didn't steal it i found it when someone put ti donw in the apple store |
| 05:13:39 | DarthShrine | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20060919.txt <−−- There, Menisk |
| 05:14:09 | Menisk | anyone who doesnt know what we're talking about read the link DarthShrine posted |
| 05:14:10 | Soap | I guess it's hard to /ignore someone on dialup. unless that's PPPoE |
| 05:14:17 | Menisk | just search for baerman714 |
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| 05:14:43 | midkay | baerman714: whatever you want to call it, you took it when you knew it was somebody else's.. you're not going to get any hellos here. |
| 05:14:50 | baerman714 | whats wrong with dial up |
| 05:15:01 | baerman714 | its cheaper |
| 05:15:15 | Menisk | its hellishl slow |
| 05:15:25 | Terinjokes | its so new zealand-ish (please, i mean no offense to my fellow kiwis, its in inside joke) |
| 05:15:26 | Menisk | hellishly* |
| 05:15:38 | Menisk | lol |
| 05:15:46 | baerman714 | i don't get it |
| 05:16:06 | Terinjokes | get what? |
| 05:16:11 | Menisk | because your a n00b and a theif |
| 05:16:18 | Soap | Did you get kicked off you cable internet after bragging about how you can "hack" it and steal cable internet? |
| 05:16:34 | Soap | no more feeding the troll from me. |
| 05:16:59 | Menisk | lol |
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| 05:18:08 | baerman714 | why are you guys so mean |
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| 05:18:23 | midkay | Soap: haha, that seemed pretty damn random until i decided to re-google.. |
| 05:18:41 | midkay | baerman714: that's what the guy whose iPod is now missing is and has been wondering. |
| 05:19:08 | Menisk | how about you go to the apple store and return it |
| 05:19:35 | Menisk | they probably have the contact number for who evers ipod it is when they came and asked where t is |
| 05:19:42 | midkay | what's the saddest part is that there's not really any way to get it back to the guy, i mean so many people have iPods.. |
| 05:19:47 | midkay | that's possible, yeah. |
| 05:19:56 | baerman714 | but i like it |
| 05:20:02 | midkay | though if it's stolen it's probably not gonna be returned.. |
| 05:20:36 | Menisk | wel in baermans hands hell no |
| 05:20:43 | midkay | "hey, i stole this iPod a few days ago when a guy left it here.. well.. it was fun to mess with but I thought I should return it.. so, here.. thanks." |
| 05:21:16 | Menisk | wait sec while i call the police... |
| 05:21:19 | Menisk | :P |
| 05:21:24 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:21:36 | baerman714 | ha you dont even know where i live |
| 05:21:52 | Menisk | ... |
| 05:22:07 | Menisk | i know I hate you |
| 05:22:34 | baerman714 | I found an ipod, big deal |
| 05:23:06 | Menisk | stole |
| 05:24:09 | Soap | I know close enough to where you are in Penn. |
| 05:24:14 | baerman714 | whos the channel op? |
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| 05:24:23 | Soap | Close enough to know which store you were most likely at. |
| 05:25:34 | baerman714 | baerman no one here wants you so why dont you F**K OFF |
| 05:25:54 | Menisk | exactly |
| 05:26:06 | Menisk | your random enough to pay your self out? |
| 05:26:28 | baerman714 | Im trying to impersonate 1 of you guys |
| 05:26:59 | Menisk | great impersonation |
| 05:27:10 | Menisk | now take the advice and get lost |
| 05:27:19 | baerman714 | fine asshole |
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| 05:28:08 | Soap | First time he was here his address was from Pennsylvania, this time it was from Australia. |
| 05:28:29 | Soap | Fist time it was on a cable internet service, this time it was on a PPP connection. |
| 05:28:32 | Menisk | wtf |
| 05:29:13 | Menisk | thats wierd |
| 05:30:17 | Menisk | he too much of an idiot too spoof |
| 05:30:56 | aliask | or use proxy |
| 05:31:07 | Menisk | yet |
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| 05:31:12 | Menisk | yer* |
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| 05:37:35 | Terinjokes | freenode rejects proxies, no? |
| 05:38:21 | Soap | nah, but this channel blocks some (all?) tor outlets. |
| 05:38:39 | Terinjokes | lol, he told himself to F**K OFF...what an idiot... |
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| 05:38:58 | Terinjokes | ah...i like TOR, slow as hell....but useful |
| 05:39:00 | Soap | Menisk = baerman714 |
| 05:39:41 | Terinjokes | copying over my music, again |
| 05:40:39 | DarthShrine | Soap: He's not. |
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| 05:41:45 | Terinjokes | tagcache is in the .rockbox right? |
| 05:41:54 | Soap | DarthShrine - they had the same IP address |
| 05:42:16 | DarthShrine | Soap: Serious? Haha. I know Menisk in person though. |
| 05:42:45 | Terinjokes | makes since, the whole F**K OFF thing, typed in the wrong window i guess... |
| 05:43:59 | midkay | haha. |
| 05:46:16 | Terinjokes | the songs finally copied over... |
| 05:48:05 | Terinjokes | and tagcache is updating... |
| 05:48:28 | DarthShrine | Copying songs over USB 1.1 is terrible. |
| 05:48:49 | Terinjokes | yeah, and 500MB...in disk-mode....ah! |
| 05:49:11 | * | Soap plays a mournful violin. |
| 05:49:20 | Terinjokes | a small collection, but still painful |
| 05:49:46 | DarthShrine | I copied about 1.5GB. Unfun. |
| 05:51:10 | Terinjokes | gtg |
| 05:51:10 | Soap | my ipod has a punch-card reader. |
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| 05:51:54 | DarthShrine | O_o |
| 05:52:24 | synic | hrmm, you could probably fit all 3 chords of a John Denver song on a punch card |
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| 07:12:11 | ivan` | which codec decodes mp3? |
| 07:15:07 | ivan` | well mpa or mpc or a52 apparently |
| 07:15:14 | Bagder | mpa |
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| 07:17:41 | ivan` | ah thanks |
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| 08:36:08 | sai | hi ppl! |
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| 08:36:56 | sai | hey does anyone know how to switch from rockbox to apple firmware? |
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| 08:37:25 | scorche | sai: read the FAQ |
| 08:37:32 | sai | cause i need help :'( |
| 08:37:50 | sai | ok im a noob... please guide me to the faq |
| 08:38:02 | scorche | documentation link on the side |
| 08:38:26 | sai | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg |
| 08:38:27 | sai | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg |
| 08:38:43 | sai | this? |
| 08:38:51 | scorche | uhhh.. |
| 08:38:56 | scorche | on the side of rockbox.org |
| 08:39:10 | sai | roger :D |
| 08:41:27 | sai | erm it doesnt tell me how to change to apple firm from rockbox |
| 08:41:59 | sai | could sum1 tell me how? i think i might have forgotten to install something |
| 08:42:20 | scorche | huh? |
| 08:42:28 | scorche | it should boot into rockbox by default |
| 08:43:18 | sai | ya i know but i wanna go bak to apple firmware how do i do tht? |
| 08:43:41 | scorche | restart your device |
| 08:44:08 | sai | by holding menu+middle button? |
| 08:44:22 | scorche | yes |
| 08:44:49 | sai | ya did tht, then wat? |
| 08:45:08 | scorche | then your device shouldt restart |
| 08:45:19 | sai | lolz ya |
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| 08:45:36 | sai | and it restarts back into rockbox |
| 08:45:58 | scorche | as it should |
| 08:46:26 | scorche | unless you hold menu to boot into apple |
| 08:46:29 | sai | nooooooo but i wanna go to apple firmware. how do i do tht? |
| 08:47:03 | scorche | sai: i just told you how...and told you where the instructions are to do that |
| 08:47:20 | sai | i held menu button it still same. goes to this screen with shuffle on and off, show all files or not and repeat on and off |
| 08:47:36 | sai | srry im laggin thts y i talk slow |
| 08:48:01 | scorche | because you have to hold menu while booting the device...did you read the FAQ at all? |
| 08:48:11 | scorche | and talk in english please |
| 08:48:25 | sai | ok |
| 08:49:00 | sai | i am srry tht when u answer something i ask the same question |
| 08:49:23 | scorche | is it really so hard to put the "o" and "a" in there? |
| 08:49:23 | sai | this is beause i am lagging due to the fact that i am sharing my computer with sum1 |
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| 08:49:55 | sai | OK I am sorry that i answer slowly! |
| 08:50:13 | sai | oops forgot a capital I?!?! |
| 08:50:17 | scorche | you seem to be fine... |
| 08:50:31 | scorche | i never said you have to capitalize...just speak english |
| 08:50:32 | sai | lol lemme try this |
| 08:50:53 | sai | okok, anyways thanks for the help :D |
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| 08:53:06 | sai | ok im still having trouble, i booted my ipod (menu+middle button) and then just held the middle button but it did not go to apple firmware,stayed on rockbox |
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| 08:53:28 | scorche | keep trying and be sure to hold your finger still |
| 08:54:55 | sai | OMG IT WORKED. THANKS SCORCHE YOU ARE A LIFESAVER! |
| 08:55:03 | sai | tyty |
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| 09:00:39 | sai | hey does anyone know of a good site to download ipod 5g games? |
| 09:00:53 | scorche | all are included |
| 09:01:14 | scorche | unless you want pacman roms, or gameboy roms |
| 09:01:19 | sai | is that all u can get? |
| 09:01:32 | scorche | or extra doom wads i guess |
| 09:01:46 | sai | yea my doom doesnt work |
| 09:01:56 | sai | how could i get doom? |
| 09:02:07 | scorche | read its page in the wiki |
| 09:02:23 | sai | wikipedia? |
| 09:02:27 | Quazgaa | you can play gameboy roms in rockbox? |
| 09:02:37 | scorche | Quazgaa: yes |
| 09:02:45 | scorche | sai: rockbox's wiki of course... |
| 09:02:55 | sai | lolz |
| 09:03:05 | Quazgaa | sai: dude, dont do that |
| 09:03:16 | Quazgaa | :P |
| 09:03:22 | sai | do wat? |
| 09:03:24 | Quazgaa | thats like sitting down at a poker table and crossing your legs |
| 09:03:25 | Quazgaa | "lolz" |
| 09:03:31 | scorche | seriously...it makes me want to reach through the screen and punch you |
| 09:03:33 | sai | ok |
| 09:03:46 | sai | geez everyones commenting on how i type |
| 09:04:07 | scorche | because this isnt a social channel...this is a support channel |
| 09:04:23 | sai | ok then :'( |
| 09:06:46 | sai | getting gameboy roms to play on rockbox hard? |
| 09:07:37 | scorche | it typically requires expensive equipment to transfer your games |
| 09:07:50 | scorche | there are also some homebrew games that you can get legally |
| 09:08:26 | sai | ok if its expensive then dont worry |
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| 12:18:38 | nls | Does anyone like the idea of having an option in the context menu of files and folders in the file browser that searches the playlist for said files and removes them? |
| 12:19:32 | dj-fu | seems a bit superfluous imo |
| 12:19:40 | dj-fu | how often would it be used, really? |
| 12:20:42 | ze | once for every file? :p |
| 12:20:49 | ze | at most |
| 12:20:49 | ze | heh |
| 12:20:57 | nls | I actually find it quite useful because i often add my whole music dir to a shuffled playlist and then I don't want to listen to a specific artist. |
| 12:21:14 | Quazgaa | nls: stop listening to crappy music |
| 12:21:39 | ze | nls: oh you mean like "remove this album" "remove this artist" sort of deal? |
| 12:21:56 | ze | my karma's got that... and i do use it from time to time |
| 12:22:11 | nls | ze yeah like that but for folders |
| 12:22:34 | ze | well my karma's all id3-based, so yeah as applicable for the browsing scheme |
| 12:22:43 | dj-fu | might be more applicable to thte tag browser |
| 12:23:03 | ze | dj-fu: it'd be just as applicable to either, i'd say |
| 12:23:07 | nls | I made a quick and dirty patch that works but wonder if it's interesting for anyone else. |
| 12:23:12 | ze | unless you have your directory structure really lame |
| 12:23:13 | ze | heh |
| 12:23:24 | Soap | the danger of a "remove this artist" command is that you might break a VA album. |
| 12:23:41 | ze | we are also just talking about removing it from the playlist |
| 12:23:44 | ze | not the actual files |
| 12:23:49 | ze | nls: right? |
| 12:23:50 | ze | heh |
| 12:23:56 | nls | yep |
| 12:24:00 | Soap | ahh |
| 12:24:02 | Soap | nvm |
| 12:24:36 | nls | maybe I'll try and clean it up ant put it in the tracker |
| 12:24:38 | dj-fu | perhaps have it create a new playlist with said files removed? |
| 12:25:18 | dj-fu | or have a no-play playlist |
| 12:25:21 | dj-fu | or something. |
| 12:26:12 | nls | dj-fu, it removes them from the current playlist so if you want to keep it like it was, just save it first :-) |
| 12:26:25 | dj-fu | ah |
| 12:26:33 | dj-fu | so it doesn't actually cull a .pls or .m3u or whatever. |
| 12:26:38 | dj-fu | just uses the in-memory one? |
| 12:26:44 | nls | yep |
| 12:26:55 | dj-fu | oh ok, that's cool; |
| 12:27:03 | dj-fu | so it removes a particular mp3 file, or a particular filetype |
| 12:27:22 | dj-fu | this is where I think using the tag browser would be better |
| 12:27:28 | nls | a file or files in a folder (from the playlist, not the actual files) |
| 12:27:29 | dj-fu | then you can chop a whole artist out |
| 12:27:37 | dj-fu | ah |
| 12:27:43 | dj-fu | i get ya now. |
| 12:27:49 | dj-fu | yep, sounds cool |
| 12:27:51 | nls | :) |
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| 14:13:38 | Lear | linuxstb: A 160 kbps AAC track now decodes at ~70% boost on coldfire. |
| 14:17:18 | Lear | And that's with -O rather than -O2 I just realized... :) |
| 14:17:54 | Lear | (According to FAADOPTS at least...) |
| 14:18:01 | nls | nice, not that I use aac but anyways ;-) |
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| 14:30:36 | linuxstb | Lear: Nice work. What did you do? |
| 14:31:40 | Lear | IRAM shuffling, so I don't know how much that affects the arm build... |
| 14:31:54 | Lear | But I managed to undo a bunch of the changes I did... :( |
| 14:32:11 | Lear | Some of it is easy to fix at least. |
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| 14:33:17 | linuxstb | If you want to post a patch, I'll be happy to see what the effect is on ARM. |
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| 14:36:18 | Lear | I can do that. |
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| 14:44:29 | pondlife | Can anyone explain why the pitch screen +/-2% options are only kept while the button is held down? |
| 14:44:39 | pondlife | I assume this is deliberate. |
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| 14:46:16 | aliask | pondlife: It's to beatmatch two tracks |
| 14:47:37 | pondlife | How does this help? Sorry - I'm probably being dumb |
| 14:49:37 | pondlife | It only allows you to go temporarily up or down by 2%. I'd think that (a) you'd want to progress and (b) 2% might be too large a jump |
| 14:50:10 | bluebrother | pondlife, this is when the beat is a bit away. Then you can make playback a bit faster until it matches. |
| 14:51:00 | pondlife | Ah, so to get a working range for finer adjustment, right? |
| 14:51:10 | aliask | Yeah, say the tempo is perfect for both tracks, you just need the beats to happen at the same time. |
| 14:51:23 | pondlife | Gotcha |
| 14:51:46 | pondlife | Thanks - I learn something (or 2 things) new about Rockbox every day |
| 14:52:35 | pondlife | Pitch is useful for getting the CPU to boost a bit!! |
| 14:55:33 | aliask | And it's fun to play with! |
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| 15:36:11 | Lear | linuxstb: see patch 6058. |
| 15:39:00 | Lear | Gah, the MUL_C asm causes problems for m68k-gcc 3.4.4 (3.4.5 is ok). |
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| 16:07:34 | nls | anyone knows if current cvs is ok for recording? |
| 16:07:57 | markun | petur should know |
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| 16:08:44 | nls | but he's not here .( |
| 16:08:47 | nls | :( |
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| 16:15:24 | linuxstb | Lear: Good news - your libfaad optimisations help on the ipod as well. My 128kbps test file needed 100% boost, and the PCM buffer was never more than about half full. With your patch, it's playing at around 65boost with the PCM buffer staying full. |
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| 16:18:00 | nls | seems there's leftover button defines in gwps.h.... |
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| 16:30:47 | Captain_A | linuxstb:what version of linux do you use? |
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| 16:37:15 | senab | obo? |
| 16:37:19 | senab | you here? |
| 16:39:01 | senab | lini, how about you? |
| 16:39:47 | obo | hi senab |
| 16:40:01 | senab | afternoon obo |
| 16:40:19 | senab | just a quick question regarding the piezo patch |
| 16:40:48 | Captain_A | hi senab |
| 16:40:58 | senab | i've been using it (freqmods mod) along with the lcd brightness patch and they're conflicting somehow |
| 16:41:18 | senab | the piezo will only work if the lcd brightness is set to 15 (100%) |
| 16:41:42 | senab | looking at the patch, i can't see how they're conflicting |
| 16:42:03 | obo | not using the same variable names? no conflicts in the menu files themselves? |
| 16:42:30 | senab | nope, the piezo works fine if i use your old driver, so it's got something to do with the timer |
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| 16:42:46 | obo | ah... yes - they both use the timer |
| 16:44:02 | senab | so i'm guessing there's no way round it |
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| 16:47:10 | obo | not that I know of.. but I don't know alot about the usec timer |
| 16:47:36 | senab | aaah, no worries, i'll just use your old driver for now |
| 16:47:41 | senab | cheers |
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| 16:48:07 | senab | hey captain_a |
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| 18:27:30 | Lear | linuxstb: might as well apply it then... |
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| 18:30:23 | Lear | linuxstb: do you have any opinions about making it LC AAC only? (the other variants aren't in common use, afaik.) |
| 18:31:54 | Soap | doesn't nero only encode HE AAC? |
| 18:34:50 | Lear | if you use a low enough bitrate yes. |
| 18:35:18 | Lear | But in this case, LC AAC doesn't exclude the HE support. |
| 18:36:37 | Lear | "LC only" in this case means disabling of Main AAC, LTP, SRS, LD, DRM and similar "rarely" used features. ;) |
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| 18:41:08 | tucoz | linuxstb, I changed your suggestion a tiny bit. What do you think? http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html |
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| 18:42:26 | bluebrother | hi tucoz |
| 18:42:30 | tucoz | hi |
| 18:42:45 | bluebrother | how about removing those "bugs", "feature requests" and "patches" completely? |
| 18:42:59 | bluebrother | FS has quick links to those. I think a simple FS link would be sufficient. |
| 18:43:32 | tucoz | hehe, yes. But then we would get questions like, where do we post bugs/patches |
| 18:43:36 | tucoz | don't you think? |
| 18:43:51 | bluebrother | and we could answer: use FS :) |
| 18:44:39 | tucoz | Maybe you are right. |
| 18:45:07 | bluebrother | and users who really want to submit reports would (a) simply try and look what FS is or (b) look in the wiki on how to do |
| 18:45:23 | tucoz | I think that the heading "flyspray" could confuse people enough not to use it as a supportchannel |
| 18:45:46 | bluebrother | "bugs" is a dangerous buzzword IMO |
| 18:46:05 | bluebrother | users tend to scream "bug!" simply when something isn't working the way they want to. |
| 18:46:11 | tucoz | yes. so i've noticed by the hard working tracker maintainers |
| 18:46:25 | tucoz | (by the amount of mails i get from flyspray) |
| 18:47:15 | bluebrother | see this mail of mine: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2006-07/0038.shtml |
| 18:47:44 | bluebrother | (the last part) |
| 18:49:02 | bluebrother | we should really discuss a tracker policy on rb-dev. I'll have more time for that in about 2 weeks. |
| 18:49:06 | tucoz | Yes, I agree. But the situation is better now right? 1000 open tasks? |
| 18:49:24 | bluebrother | I'd like to have only ~500 open tasks. |
| 18:49:45 | bluebrother | having 1000 open tasks −− who keeps track of them all? |
| 18:50:03 | tucoz | I think we should be able to close tasks that we are not able to reproduce, and that have been silent for a certain amount of time. |
| 18:50:10 | bluebrother | and, more important: IMO this "help" keeping devs away from using FS on a regularly basis. |
| 18:50:45 | bluebrother | indeed. Tasks opened 2002 and having no more comments aren't useful anymore imo. |
| 18:51:05 | bluebrother | and as I said some times already: if there is really an issue someone will open a new task :) |
| 18:51:24 | tucoz | Yes |
| 18:51:51 | tucoz | the fact that the amount of junk tasks overshadows the real tasks is a problem |
| 18:51:55 | bluebrother | I really hope to address this in ~2 weeks. |
| 18:52:09 | bluebrother | need to pass my last exam first. |
| 18:52:30 | tucoz | But maybe a simple restructuring of the menu could help users on their way to support |
| 18:52:47 | tucoz | oh. then you are finished with school? |
| 18:53:06 | bluebrother | surely. I like the proposion, but I'd rather not have "bug" on the front page |
| 18:53:16 | tucoz | hehe, i know what you mean |
| 18:53:29 | bluebrother | no, after that I need to write my diploma thesis. Then I'm finally finished |
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| 18:53:55 | bluebrother | (man, I'm getting old *g*) |
| 18:53:55 | tucoz | What grade is that thesis for? |
| 18:54:23 | bluebrother | diploma of electrical engineering |
| 18:54:32 | * | bluebrother hopes this is the correct english term |
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| 18:54:58 | tucoz | Probably :) Good luck with the studying then |
| 18:55:07 | bluebrother | leo translates it as "graduate engineer" |
| 18:55:29 | bluebrother | thanks. |
| 18:55:48 | tucoz | got to go cook some food. see you later |
| 18:56:30 | bluebrother | cu |
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| 19:05:45 | t0mas | hi |
| 19:05:59 | t0mas | funny question... how do I exit the I/O debug screen on an ipod nano? |
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| 19:08:39 | obo | prev button |
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| 19:25:01 | DrMoreau | i patched ipodpatcher to use the 2048b/sectors for the 5.5g ipods.. it can pull and rewrite the fw image now. |
| 19:25:45 | midkay | DrMoreau: wow, cool.. does Rockbox run, have you tried that? |
| 19:25:51 | DrMoreau | no not yet |
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| 19:25:56 | DrMoreau | i need help with that |
| 19:26:22 | fredxor | i have a question about rockbox with an ipod |
| 19:26:48 | fredxor | if i use rockbox, do i have to use itunes to transfer my music, or can i just do it through windows explorer? |
| 19:26:49 | DrMoreau | is anyone currenty working on the 5.5g bin? |
| 19:26:50 | Soap | DrMoreau - that's like saying you can fly the space shuttle but not drive a car ;) |
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| 19:27:14 | midkay | haha. i'm sure it's happened before! |
| 19:27:29 | midkay | fredxor: windows explorer works fine.. that's rockbox's default system. |
| 19:27:34 | midkay | drag+drop file structure. |
| 19:27:35 | fredxor | awesome |
| 19:27:38 | fredxor | thanks midkay |
| 19:27:43 | fredxor | just what i'm looking for |
| 19:27:47 | DrMoreau | or fly the space shuttle but cant stand at the news conference afterwards |
| 19:27:56 | midkay | np. |
| 19:28:14 | fredxor | soap - i can fly better than i can drive |
| 19:28:42 | fredxor | there's less to hit, but i still have had 2 almost collisions |
| 19:28:49 | fredxor | luckily, i had an instructor with me |
| 19:31:18 | DrMoreau | i tink ipod_fw may need a patch to deal with the difference in padding size, not sure tho |
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| 19:33:57 | DrMoreau | still getting just the dark apple... |
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| 19:35:33 | DrMoreau | anyone know what the padding bytes are for in IPP? |
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| 19:39:39 | linuxstb_ | DrMoreau: Yes, I think ipod_fw.c needs an update as well.... |
| 19:41:55 | linuxstb_ | tucoz, bluebrother: Regarding having a link to "bug reports" on the front page - I would quite like to keep it, but instead of linking directly to flyspray, it could link to an "how to report bugs" wiki page. I'm thinking of something like mplayer's page: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/bugreports.html |
| 19:45:03 | linuxstb_ | DrMoreau: Does your patch to ipodpatcher require the user to know the sector size, or does it detect it? |
| 19:45:28 | nls | tucoz, I definately like the manual link on the front page. |
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| 19:52:15 | DrMoreau | i hardcoded it to 2048 |
| 19:52:34 | DrMoreau | it was previously coded to 512 |
| 19:55:05 | bluebrother | linuxstb_, just read that mplayer page. I really like that attempt. |
| 19:55:09 | tucoz | nls, it was linuxstb's idea. I just changed the font somewhat |
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| 19:55:53 | bluebrother | especially the introduction to the topic on the mplayer page is nice. |
| 19:55:57 | tucoz | Ah, very good idea to link to a howto instead of a direct link to the bugreport |
| 19:56:05 | nls | tucoz, ok but I think it's a very good idea since people seem to have trouble finding the manual with the current layout |
| 19:56:14 | tucoz | yes, i agree |
| 19:57:05 | bluebrother | I really don't understand why people don't find the manual. It's linked directly below the daily builds ... |
| 19:57:23 | tucoz | I don't think people expect to find a daily built manual |
| 19:57:45 | linuxstb_ | I've done a little googling, and it looks like the DriveGetFreeDiskSpace function (!!) gives you the logical sector size for a drive. This looks like it needs a drive letter though, not the disk device number... |
| 19:57:50 | nls | you only see what you expect to see.. |
| 19:57:55 | linuxstb_ | ^That was to DrMoreau... |
| 19:58:05 | bluebrother | hehe. Indeed. |
| 19:58:42 | bluebrother | users tend not wanting to see a manual as this would imply reading it (and this means some kind of work ;-) |
| 19:58:48 | tucoz | Does flyspray require registration when you open a task? |
| 19:59:05 | tucoz | bluebrother, hehe |
| 19:59:11 | tucoz | you are right |
| 19:59:28 | bluebrother | FS requires registration including a valid mail address. |
| 19:59:31 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: IMO, the current problems with flyspray are caused by 1) No clear links to the support channels on the Rockbox home page; 2) No description about what what the bug tracker is for. |
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| 20:00:41 | bluebrother | indeed. IMO there is also 3) users who are kind of lazy, but this is something we can't do anything about. |
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| 20:03:19 | linuxstb_ | bluebrother: Are you sure FS requires registration before opening a task? It never used to. |
| 20:04:12 | bluebrother | yes. The anonymous submissions got stopped some time ago |
| 20:04:30 | DrMoreau | linuxstb - can you send me the info on that? |
| 20:05:05 | bluebrother | funny, the registration form http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/register denotes the mail address not as required field but states you need to get a confirmation code. |
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| 20:05:53 | linuxstb_ | DrMoreau: Just google for DriveGetFreeDiskSpace - but as I said, you'll also need to find the drive letter for the ipod... |
| 20:06:25 | bluebrother | linuxstb_, did you have a sf account before? Those got imported (according to wiki page, and this was the thing that happened to my account too) |
| 20:06:46 | DanManners | Yo People, DanManners here |
| 20:06:46 | DanManners | um |
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| 20:06:54 | DanManners | could someone show me how to add someone to the wiki list |
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| 20:07:39 | DrMoreau | google says "Your search - DriveGetFreeDiskSpace - did not match any documents. " |
| 20:07:42 | tucoz | DanManners, you add them to this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TWikiUsersGroup |
| 20:07:45 | bluebrother | DanManners, wiki list? You mean editing the wiki? |
| 20:08:01 | bluebrother | ah, got it :) |
| 20:08:03 | DanManners | ya |
| 20:08:29 | linuxstb_ | DrMoreau: Sorry, it's "GetDiskFreeSpace" |
| 20:08:51 | tucoz | DanManners, you want to get added to the list? |
| 20:09:01 | tucoz | sorry |
| 20:09:02 | tucoz | you are |
| 20:09:36 | DrMoreau | oic thx |
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| 20:11:25 | DanManners | noo |
| 20:11:26 | DanManners | umm |
| 20:11:29 | DanManners | I want to add my friend |
| 20:11:31 | DanManners | because he made a wps |
| 20:11:34 | DanManners | for the iPod 5g |
| 20:11:41 | DanManners | and i don't know how to add him |
| 20:11:52 | DanManners | can you just tell me how? |
| 20:11:55 | tucoz | DanManners, just add his wikiname to the page i linked |
| 20:12:24 | DanManners | okay |
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| 20:12:34 | DanManners | thanks |
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| 20:15:02 | DanManners | I did |
| 20:15:04 | DanManners | that's it? |
| 20:15:15 | tucoz | yes, after you save it should be fine |
| 20:15:54 | tucoz | You have to be a member of that group to be able to edit the wiki, and by adding a wiki-name to that list, you will be added to the group. :) |
| 20:16:30 | DanManners | okay |
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| 20:20:27 | bluebrother | I just noticed that the OldPluginsIndex page is empty again ... |
| 20:20:36 | * | bluebrother votes for removing the favorites plugin |
| 20:20:47 | nls | burn it! |
| 20:20:52 | nls | and snake |
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| 20:43:51 | linolium | heey, I am in the filelist of rockbox but all my files start with things like "Third Eye Blind - Some Album - " and then the track number and name. Is there any way to cut off all the front stuff so I don't have to scroll to each one to see what the name is? |
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| 20:45:27 | linuxstb | linolium: You can either bulk-rename your files (I'm sure others can suggest applications to do that) or use Rockbox's tagcache feature to view files by their tags rather than the filenames. |
| 20:46:46 | linolium | linuxstb: how easy is it to hack the source code and recompile? |
| 20:47:28 | linuxstb | This easy: −−-> <−−- |
| 20:47:57 | linolium | ... I don't speak arrow |
| 20:48:28 | Lear | If you're not reasonably familiar with (C) programming, it is a little harder than that... :) |
| 20:48:36 | linuxstb | How easy depends on your skill - which I don't know... But if you're familiar with C programming and compiling in general, then I would say it's easy. |
| 20:49:10 | linolium | ok.. I am thinking something like "if all files in a directory start with x characters, don't show them in menu" |
| 20:49:35 | linuxstb | You should search the patch tracker - I have a feeling someone may already have written such a patch. |
| 20:49:47 | linolium | that would be nice.. |
| 20:50:02 | linuxstb | Although it will be old, so may need adjusting for the current source. |
| 20:50:26 | linolium | um, this may be a stupid question, but is the code the same for all platforms, or is it forked for each one ..? |
| 20:50:37 | linuxstb | It's one source tree. |
| 20:50:57 | linolium | does it compile for each one based on bits of specific code? |
| 20:51:10 | nls | linolium, you could probably hack the function that hides files starting with a period... |
| 20:51:49 | linuxstb | Yes. Which files are compiled for a particular build is controlled by the SOURCES files in each directory, plus #ifdefs within the files control the actual code. |
| 20:52:31 | linolium | does that end up being mostly the low-level stuff? |
| 20:54:25 | linuxstb | Mostly, yes. |
| 20:54:55 | linuxstb | But the high-level code needs to adapt to the hardware - mono/colour LCD, LCD size, the number of available buttons etc. |
| 20:55:40 | linolium | sounds like a massive undertaking |
| 20:56:23 | linuxstb | Rockbox is almost 5 years old now and we have over 200 people in the CREDITS file who have contributed in some way... |
| 20:57:19 | linolium | I just wish it supported battery charging and firewire on my monochrome ipod |
| 20:58:16 | linuxstb | The ipod port is new, as you probably know, and there are not many people working on any low-level stuff. |
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| 20:58:33 | linuxstb | So you would be more than welcome... |
| 20:58:51 | linolium | I wish I had the skills.. |
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| 21:01:24 | linuxstb | Lear: Looks like it was my build server which failed on the H100 build. I'm running 3.4.4 - did you say it compiled fine on 3.4.6? |
| 21:01:54 | Lear | Yes. 3.4.5 is fine too. |
| 21:02:12 | linuxstb | Yes, just noticed that. I guess we need to make 3.4.5 the minimum version then... |
| 21:04:40 | linuxstb | I'm upgrading now. |
| 21:05:03 | linuxstb | Have you tried any higher bitrate AAC files? |
| 21:05:41 | Lear | Only 192 kbps. I only have like 3 files that actually play... |
| 21:05:52 | Lear | That one played too, with a little higher boost ratio. |
| 21:07:46 | linuxstb | Are you running CVS or your metadata parsing patch? |
| 21:07:56 | linuxstb | I'm assuming you never committed that? |
| 21:08:33 | Lear | No, it isn't committed, but I do use it locally. |
| 21:08:51 | Lear | Ouch, lots of warnings... |
| 21:09:10 | Lear | A little more interested in finishing it up now though... |
| 21:09:37 | Lear | I thought I had fixed that warning... |
| 21:10:28 | linuxstb | Wait a few minutes until you commit again though - give me chance to upgrade my gcc. |
| 21:10:35 | linuxstb | (it's compiling now) |
| 21:11:00 | Lear | Ah, forgot to reapply that fix... |
| 21:11:25 | linuxstb | In fact, it's done.. |
| 21:11:42 | Reverie | Anyone know if there's an easy way to install Ipod linux how that I have rockbox installed? |
| 21:12:39 | linuxstb | The only easy way is to use the IPL installer - which I expect requires you to uninstall the Rockbox bootloader first. |
| 21:13:23 | linuxstb | But after you install IPL using their installer, you simply need to unzip rockbox.zip to your ipod, and the IPL bootloader will detect it and give you a menu option for it in the boot menu. |
| 21:14:10 | MHen | Hi! Could I make a developer having a look at my (essentially 4 line) patch that speeds up skipping on players decoder chip? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6052 |
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| 21:16:44 | linuxstb | MHen: Is that specific to the Player, or all Archos (i.e. hwcodec) devices? |
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| 21:18:18 | MHen | That sould be all devices that use mpeg.c, i.e. all with CONFIG_CODEC != SWCODEC, i.e. all Archos. |
| 21:19:42 | amiconn | The approach looks a bit odd |
| 21:19:49 | MHen | I don't know how much impact this change would have on other devices than the Ondio (which I own). But here, I can reduct responsiveness (when skipping at the very beginning of the song) from a few seconds, say 5 to 0.5. |
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| 21:20:21 | amiconn | Yeah, Ondio 'disk' reading is quite slow (but it's as fast as it can go) |
| 21:20:46 | MHen | Or let's say from 3 to 0,5. |
| 21:20:51 | amiconn | MHen: I would think that it would be better to handle the case within the mpeg thread itself |
| 21:22:19 | MHen | You mean, the thread should scan the whole queue, look if there is any skip command in it and then discarding all unnecessary reads? |
| 21:22:56 | MHen | Scanning the whole queue every time would be quite time consuming. I'd say that deleting these reads when inserting the skip is fine. |
| 21:23:17 | Ed__ | is it me or did Hotmail get worse the last couple of days? |
| 21:23:30 | Ed__ | Hotmail doesn't even send In-Reply-To headers with mails anymore |
| 21:23:44 | amiconn | MHen: Scanning the whole queue would be weird, no. |
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| 21:24:40 | MHen | And inserting the skip at the beginning ("overtaking the reads") would mess up things. |
| 21:24:53 | amiconn | 'skip' could set a flag somewhere that the disk loader part could check, |
| 21:25:29 | amiconn | and if the loader finds this flag set, it could stop the load operation and quench all MPEG_NEED_DATA events |
| 21:25:51 | amiconn | Same thing could be done for 'stop', btw |
| 21:28:54 | MHen | Do you think I should it rewrite that way and update the patch that way or should I ask for a second opinion on that matter? |
| 21:32:54 | markun | amiconn: can you take a look at this? http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/fontbuffer.patch |
| 21:33:11 | markun | I want to make the fontbuffer size configurable |
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| 21:52:05 | _eckobar_ | hi guys |
| 21:52:06 | _eckobar_ | ! |
| 21:52:25 | Joely | hello! i'm just wondering for a flash based media player that rockbox supports....which is the best supported? |
| 21:52:42 | Joely | would that be the ipod nano? or is there something cooler? |
| 21:53:18 | MHen | first, you have to define "best". ;-) |
| 21:53:29 | bluebrother | afaik the only flash based devices that are supported are the nano and the ondio. |
| 21:53:48 | bluebrother | except then new nano |
| 21:55:04 | _eckobar_ | following problem: flashed my ipod video with current version of rockbox ... everything is working fine ... great work men ... BUT ... i have bought me a power socet adapter for direct loading my battery without pc .... when i connec to power socket, pod recognize usb connection restarts .... recognize usb connection ... restart and so on .... BUG ??? |
| 21:56:09 | Reverie | Hey |
| 21:56:11 | Reverie | I have a question. |
| 21:56:21 | Reverie | Why is it when I use rockbox, It shows Ipod_Control, rockbox.ipod, etc files? |
| 21:56:26 | Reverie | How do I hide them. |
| 21:56:39 | dionoea | long click on menu |
| 21:56:49 | dionoea | then change it to only display supported files or media files |
| 21:57:51 | Reverie | kk |
| 21:58:04 | Reverie | Is there anyway to play Roms? <_< |
| 21:58:07 | Reverie | On a nano? |
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| 21:59:31 | dionoea | Roms like gameboy roms ? |
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| 22:00:01 | Reverie | Yeah. |
| 22:00:22 | Reverie | And if I wanted to install like ... ipod linux would I have to uninstall rockbox? |
| 22:03:30 | amiconn | w0w |
| 22:03:46 | amiconn | The gcc team is actually fixing bugs... |
| 22:04:13 | Lear | And it affects us? |
| 22:04:43 | * | amiconn received some mails concerning the bug when building m68k-elf-gcc on amd64 |
| 22:05:12 | amiconn | Latest cvs should build on amd64 without kludge |
| 22:05:20 | petur | bah.. the new recording code is fixed 44100 even for spdif.... what a stupid bug to make... |
| 22:05:47 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6061 |
| 22:06:11 | markun | amiconn: what do you think of a variable font buffer? |
| 22:06:31 | amiconn | What problem would it solve? |
| 22:06:40 | * | amiconn didn't notice any font related problems |
| 22:07:00 | markun | continuous disk spinning for korean users for example |
| 22:07:13 | amiconn | hmm... |
| 22:07:44 | amiconn | How does the code calculate the necessary size of the font buffer? |
| 22:08:31 | markun | I don't know what you mean. What is there to calculate? |
| 22:08:46 | amiconn | How big the buffer should be... |
| 22:09:53 | markun | It should be big enough to fit at least 1 glyph. You can make it as big or small as you want. |
| 22:10:05 | amiconn | User settable option? |
| 22:10:19 | markun | Yes, just like the other things in the 'limits' menu I think |
| 22:10:25 | markun | But that's not in my patch yet |
| 22:10:27 | amiconn | hmm... |
| 22:10:32 | * | amiconn doesn't lik ethe idea |
| 22:10:44 | * | markun thought you wouldn't :) |
| 22:11:08 | markun | Can you tell me why? |
| 22:11:40 | markun | Because it adds another option? |
| 22:11:48 | amiconn | Well, the directory and playlist buffer limits are relatively straightforward, and even these already caused confusion |
| 22:12:05 | amiconn | How should an average user know how large the font buffer should be? |
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| 22:13:07 | amiconn | Ihmo that's way too technical to be useful |
| 22:13:36 | markun | Do you think the koreans should compile their own rockbox version with a different MAX_FONT_SIZE? |
| 22:13:43 | amiconn | nope |
| 22:14:12 | amiconn | If you find a way to estimate the necessary font buffer size, it might be helpful |
| 22:14:44 | amiconn | People not understanding what these limit values are often set weird values, then wonder why things don't work as expected |
| 22:15:24 | nls | couldn't the font format be extended to contain the neccesary buffersize? |
| 22:15:38 | amiconn | We had several reports in the past where both the dir limit and the playlist size were set to max., and then people complained why rockbox rebuffers every few seconds, or why voice doesn't work |
| 22:15:45 | amiconn | (archos, obviously) |
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| 22:16:02 | markun | I would say it depends on the number of most commonly used glyphs and the size of the glyphs in the font you use |
| 22:16:29 | amiconn | yes |
| 22:16:44 | amiconn | Maybe base it on the font size & codepage |
| 22:17:02 | amiconn | But what happens if you change the buffer size during playback? |
| 22:17:07 | markun | I could add some font statistics to the debug menu for example |
| 22:17:18 | markun | You can't |
| 22:17:41 | markun | You need to reboot for all the limits options to work, right? |
| 22:17:57 | amiconn | Yes, currently |
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| 22:19:14 | markun | I see no problem with that. It's much nicer than a fixed and arbitrary MAX_FONT_SIZE |
| 22:20:55 | Reverie | Hey |
| 22:21:10 | Reverie | anyone here know how I can play songs on my regular apple ipod nano, and rockbox at the same time? |
| 22:21:14 | Reverie | Like, the 'original' firmware. |
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| 22:21:51 | Reverie | Someone :( |
| 22:22:00 | markun | Reverie: I don't understand what you want |
| 22:22:07 | Reverie | Like, I want to run songs on rockbox |
| 22:22:13 | Reverie | and the 'original' ipod. |
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| 22:22:35 | markun | add them with iTunes and use TagCache |
| 22:22:56 | Reverie | k sec |
| 22:22:58 | Joely | hmm what i want to do is use an ipod nano as a _firewire_ boot drive for my laptop..would this be possible with rockbox? |
| 22:23:07 | markun | Or what do you mean by 'at the same time'? |
| 22:23:48 | markun | Joely: what does it have to do with rockbox? |
| 22:24:21 | Joely | well i'm wondering if the lack of firewire support for the nano is because of firmware or drivers |
| 22:24:50 | Joely | and if it's firmware....would rockbox fix this? |
| 22:25:49 | markun | rockbox doesn't even have a USB driver for the nano, so if you can't use firewire rockbox will not fix that |
| 22:26:09 | Lear | And I wonder if the nanos even have a firewire port... |
| 22:26:22 | Joely | well through the dock connector... |
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| 22:27:36 | markun | Joely: according to this site the nano doesn't support firewire: http://playlistmag.com/reviews/2005/09/ipodnanoaccessories/index.php |
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| 22:29:09 | Lear | Apparantly you can charge it via a firewire cable (at least the new nanos). |
| 22:29:50 | Joely | markun, right, but i want to make a forth driver for my ppc based laptop to interface to an ipod nano through the dock<->firewire cable...and i just need to know about the firmware side of the ipod nano |
| 22:30:03 | Joely | i need a driver on the other side |
| 22:30:10 | Joely | so i guess it's a no? |
| 22:31:15 | markun | I guess so, but let me check a bit more |
| 22:32:02 | Joely | i mean, if this sounds cool to someone for rockbox, i could try to help make a driver like that... |
| 22:32:17 | Joely | just wanted to make sure the work wasn't already done before |
| 22:32:22 | markun | What is the reason you can't use USB btw? |
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| 22:32:51 | Joely | because those are filled with my mouse and other peripherials ;) |
| 22:33:10 | markun | Joely: look here: http://ipodlinux.org/Generations |
| 22:33:27 | markun | The nano doesn't have the TSB41AB1 like the other iPods |
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| 22:34:23 | Joely | ohhh it doesn't have the physical layout needed for it...ok |
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| 22:35:50 | petur | wtf... backlight stays on when you switch on HOLD in the recording screen |
| 22:36:59 | petur | no wonder my battery dropped 25% during a 1:30 hour recording yesterday evening |
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| 22:42:29 | petur | can somebody explain what the setting of Backlight (On Hold Key) means? And what use this has? |
| 22:43:34 | nls | if you set it to off backlight goes off when you switch hold on, on does the opposite, normal is supposed to just do the timeout |
| 22:43:36 | midkay | i think it means what happens to the backlight when hold is switched on.. |
| 22:44:05 | nls | but normal does light up the backligtht when you toggle hold (and it then times out) |
| 22:44:11 | petur | why would enybody want backlight on when hold is on? to use it as a flashlight? |
| 22:44:24 | petur | anybody even |
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| 22:44:52 | nls | idk, just another option for the heck of it, we have some pretty strange options... |
| 22:44:58 | markun | petur: I also can't imagine |
| 22:45:21 | petur | I'd rather want an option to switch on backlight on keypress even with hold on |
| 22:45:31 | petur | for monitoring purposes |
| 22:45:45 | nls | dont think it's possible on most devices (?) |
| 22:46:17 | nls | like hold electrically disconnecting buttons. |
| 22:46:19 | petur | don't know... are there any devices with a hardware key lock? |
| 22:46:41 | nls | not sure but I think at least some are |
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| 22:51:56 | nls | speaking of options I was thinking of combining the recording screen on startup with the resume on startup with something like startup action with the choice of recording, resume, and possibly others. Any thoughts? |
| 22:52:27 | nls | ...too something... |
| 22:52:36 | nls | into even |
| 22:53:01 | petur | to be combined with a system to perform stuff at boot because of alarm |
| 22:53:49 | petur | the framework I mean, not user option(s) |
| 22:54:12 | nls | So there is alarm support coming? |
| 22:54:19 | petur | or maybe do the recording as a user option too |
| 22:54:52 | petur | I think LinusN is looking at it |
| 22:55:24 | nls | but maybe you want different things happening when you star manually and when alarm wakes it up. |
| 22:55:38 | petur | yes |
| 22:56:11 | petur | you could make it start recording at manual boot and/or alarm ;) |
| 22:56:20 | amiconn | The biggest problem is probably what to do when the alarm time approaches and the unit is already on |
| 22:56:29 | petur | yes |
| 22:57:13 | petur | hahaha that WAV header format sucks |
| 22:57:24 | amiconn | huh? |
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| 22:57:46 | petur | looking to fix a bug in recording |
| 22:58:08 | petur | samplerate is hardcoded 44100 |
| 22:58:23 | petur | header mod code was removed |
| 22:58:31 | Joely | hey, hehe i have some questions still >< one about the firewire issue....one about rockbox in general! i don't know too much about the firewire standard...but is it _possible_ to emulate firewire through the dock connector in software or by just carrying a few data traces together (within a little dock connector accessory!) and also...are there any companies selling rockbox modified ipods/archos etc? |
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| 22:59:46 | amiconn | It would only be possible if there's a firewire phy present on the board |
| 22:59:53 | amiconn | ...which I doubt |
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| 23:00:28 | Joely | i'm saying could you put in an accessory on the dockport with firewire phy? |
| 23:00:29 | Joely | haha |
| 23:00:33 | Joely | i want to make something |
| 23:00:34 | Joely | and i'm bored |
| 23:00:59 | petur | why don't you try to make a TV-out that connects to the headphone socket :p |
| 23:01:04 | amiconn | Anyway, in order to support usb and/or firewire within rockbox, we need (a) thorough knowledge about the PP <-> usb/firewire interfaces (no docs), and (b) someone to write an usb/firewire stack |
| 23:01:07 | amiconn | (device side) |
| 23:01:14 | petur | or join that thread in the forum... |
| 23:01:48 | Joely | i can try to write a usb/firewire stack!!! haha i have nothing to do i probably would too |
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| 23:02:44 | Joely | and what do you mean no PP <-> usb/firewire interfaces? doesn't linux have drivers for PP(P?) over usb/firewire? |
| 23:03:00 | amiconn | PP = portalplayer |
| 23:03:03 | Joely | ohhhhhh |
| 23:03:03 | Joely | ok |
| 23:03:05 | Joely | sorry |
| 23:03:07 | Joely | i'm new to this! |
| 23:03:35 | amiconn | Portalplayer == system-on-a-chip with dual ARM7TDMI core and lots of integrated interfaces |
| 23:03:43 | amiconn | There are no public docs/data sheets |
| 23:04:15 | amiconn | (Portalplayer is also the company making the portalplayer SoCs) |
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| 23:07:01 | Joely | are there any programs that PP has released like a public sdk that someone might be able to cleany reverse engineer? |
| 23:07:02 | bluebrother | markun, amiconn, how about "protecting" the limits menu entry with a warning that splashes up upon entering that setting folder? |
| 23:07:23 | bluebrother | like "change this settings only if you know what you are doing, otherwise keep out" |
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| 23:20:54 | Joely | hmm so has anyone found any JTAG off of the PP SoC? |
| 23:21:20 | Joely | or anything exciting hardware wise? haha i'm wondering i should go out and buy one to play with :-D |
| 23:22:06 | petur | Bagder has a sansa with JTAG I think |
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| 23:25:23 | markun | Joely: you can buy a Toshiba Gigabeat (F or X) :) It has a JTAG connector |
| 23:27:56 | Joely | hmm so which is it i buy?? gigabeat or sansa!?!? |
| 23:28:14 | amiconn | The gigabeat isn't PP |
| 23:28:21 | Joely | haha yeah i know that |
| 23:28:39 | Joely | i'm not THAT much of a newbie :) |
| 23:29:08 | Joely | but isn't the sansa? |
| 23:29:12 | markun | Joely: sansa has flash, the gigabeat a hdd |
| 23:29:13 | Joely | it's pp5022? |
| 23:29:31 | markun | pp5024 I think |
| 23:30:03 | markun | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox-sandisk-connection.html |
| 23:30:25 | Reverie | Hey guys |
| 23:30:30 | Reverie | I got a few questions, could someone help me? |
| 23:30:38 | markun | just ask |
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| 23:30:55 | Reverie | Kay |
| 23:31:34 | Reverie | First, I'd like to listen to my songs using the original 'firmware' (Like not rockbox, the original ipod stuff) how do I do this? I currently just have a folder named songs in my ipod nano that can be read and listen to music through rockbox only. |
| 23:31:50 | Reverie | Second, how do I have an option or something that lets me use the original first, and then boot up Rockbox if I do something special? |
| 23:32:09 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_to_start_the_original_Apple |
| 23:32:33 | markun | for the second question: install the bootloader from ipodlinux |
| 23:32:56 | Reverie | I don't have to install ipodlinux? |
| 23:32:58 | Reverie | just the bootloader? |
| 23:33:01 | markun | yes |
| 23:33:04 | Reverie | kk |
| 23:33:05 | * | barrywardell still has a spare H10 with a broken hdd... |
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| 23:33:49 | markun | Reverie: http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 |
| 23:33:58 | Reverie | kay :o |
| 23:34:06 | Reverie | but um, that first thing isn't what I wanted exactly |
| 23:34:15 | Reverie | I want something that just loads up the original apple RIGHT away |
| 23:34:20 | Reverie | And I have to do something special to get rockbox |
| 23:34:27 | Reverie | Like, I mean the exact opposite of what it is right now |
| 23:34:37 | Joely | barrywardell: i guess i'm not gonna be the first one to get my hands on your lovely little piece of hardware :-/ sigh...today is the first day! |
| 23:34:51 | Reverie | btw, when I used that loader thing, i got an error :/ |
| 23:35:20 | linuxstb_ | Reverie: You can set a default firmware and a timeout in Loader2. That wiki page should describe the config file options. |
| 23:36:40 | Reverie | Wait, so question |
| 23:36:43 | Reverie | I just download that installer |
| 23:36:45 | barrywardell | well i don't know how much use it would be to anyone without a hdd anyway |
| 23:36:48 | Reverie | Run it, and it's done? |
| 23:36:48 | Reverie | nothing more? |
| 23:37:30 | markun | Reverie: just try it |
| 23:37:34 | linuxstb_ | I don't know about the IPL installer, but you can just downloader the bootloader itself and install it the same way you installed the Rockbox bootloader (just replace bootloader-xxxx.bin with loader.bin). |
| 23:37:38 | Reverie | I did, Nothing happens >_> |
| 23:37:39 | markun | if it doesn't work you can also ask in #ipodlinux |
| 23:38:05 | Reverie | k |
| 23:38:45 | Joely | barrywardell, what's the interface of the hdd? |
| 23:39:13 | barrywardell | it's zif. i think it's specific to hitachi drives |
| 23:39:37 | barrywardell | but it looks like it's standard ide with a special connector |
| 23:39:53 | barrywardell | so you could build an adaptor if you really wanted |
| 23:40:18 | Joely | ohhhhh!! hehe that would be fun...but are there any more ports on it? |
| 23:40:33 | Joely | maybe we could get some nonstandard external hookup for it |
| 23:40:34 | Joely | haha |
| 23:40:34 | petur | amiconn: in the past, the spdif samplerate was measured just before recording start, but with the encoding framework, this should be done in audio_set_recording_options(). Any problems with that? |
| 23:41:18 | amiconn | It can't be done before recording start |
| 23:41:32 | Reverie | Where can I get the loader.bin file? |
| 23:41:32 | amiconn | I mean earlier than just before the start |
| 23:41:46 | amiconn | The input signal might not even be present yet |
| 23:41:47 | petur | I meant before recording to disk |
| 23:42:05 | petur | ah yes... enter rec screen, then connect |
| 23:42:54 | linuxstb_ | Reverie: On the Loader_2 wiki page - under "Getting It" |
| 23:42:57 | petur | boy, this is not going to be easy to fix in the encoder framework :( |
| 23:42:59 | Reverie | k ty |
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| 23:46:33 | petur | one solution would be to do pre-recording purely in the WAV buffer and re-init the codec at recording start |
| 23:47:31 | petur | or even only run the codec during actual recording |
| 23:49:55 | Reverie | Ah, thanks I got it. |
| 23:50:03 | Reverie | But it doesn't ahve rockbox listed on the options to choose <_< |
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| 23:50:27 | Joely | hey barrywardell...do happen to have an JTAG or a RS232 connection on the H10? |
| 23:51:07 | * | petur sees that pre-recording is purely in WAV buffer... phew |
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| 23:52:11 | barrywardell | Joely: sorry was a little distracted elsewhere there. I don't know of any jtag or RS232. There are board scans http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverH10Info |
| 23:53:04 | Reverie | Barry, do you know how to have rockbox as a option to choose? |
| 23:53:15 | Reverie | I just installed Loader 2 |
| 23:53:23 | Reverie | I don't really understand the instructions <<; |
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| 23:53:37 | Reverie | http://ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 <- Near the middle it says something about Rockbox. |
| 23:54:26 | * | petur discovers he saw wrong :( |
| 23:56:19 | barrywardell | i don't know anything about Loader 2 |
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