| 00:00:41 | Joely | ohhhh |
| 00:01:11 | Joely | Can i play with it barrywardell?!!? ;) |
| 00:01:37 | barrywardell | if you want |
| 00:01:43 | Joely | how much? |
| 00:01:48 | barrywardell | do you have a jtag connector? |
| 00:03:00 | barrywardell | i'm not looking to make any money off it. i got a replacement from Rockbox funds so am happy to see it go to anyone who can help the cause |
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| 00:05:20 | Joely | ahh webguest50, which side is it on? i can't find it! |
| 00:05:56 | webguest50 | Front, on the right edge. |
| 00:06:15 | Joely | ohhhh i see it now |
| 00:06:16 | Joely | cool |
| 00:06:54 | barrywardell | Joely: where are you located? |
| 00:07:21 | Joely | near chicago, illinois....couldn't you tell from my ip? |
| 00:07:22 | Joely | haha |
| 00:07:40 | Joely | oh man..i dislike my dsl service... |
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| 00:12:34 | Joely | yeah, barrywardell, it would be cool to code for one of those H10s! |
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| 00:24:39 | Joely | heh, maybe we could boot from jtag and then use usb as a storage device... |
| 00:26:22 | markun | does it have a USB host controller? |
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| 00:27:30 | Joely | oh man, was that the h300 i'm thinking of or something? where you could do p2p linkups? |
| 00:27:39 | Joely | through usb... |
| 00:29:32 | Joely | yeah usb otg i think it was |
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| 00:30:29 | barrywardell | yeah, that's the h300 |
| 00:30:33 | barrywardell | the h10 doesn't have that |
| 00:30:33 | Joely | grrr |
| 00:30:45 | Damme_Sawtooth | hello, how do I charge the rockbox and still be able to listen to music? |
| 00:31:07 | Damme_Sawtooth | aah found it, menu :) |
| 00:35:43 | Joely | wait wait.... |
| 00:35:52 | Joely | isn't the h10 a pp5020? |
| 00:36:02 | Joely | that has USB OTG |
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| 00:37:52 | barrywardell | it's pp5020, yeah |
| 00:38:12 | Joely | but? |
| 00:38:16 | barrywardell | but doesn't have otg in the stock firmware anyway |
| 00:38:25 | Joely | right, because of DRM |
| 00:38:32 | barrywardell | probably |
| 00:39:17 | barrywardell | the only connector is a proprietry connector on the bottom |
| 00:40:45 | barrywardell | how is jtag used? |
| 00:40:47 | Joely | http://www.misticriver.net/wiki/index.php/H10_Hardware_Data#Connector_Pinout |
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| 00:40:58 | Joely | sorry that didn't answer the jtag question |
| 00:41:53 | Joely | jtag is for bootloading and debugging of the initial code |
| 00:42:01 | Joely | especially with a SoC |
| 00:42:10 | Joely | (anyone else can chime in!!) |
| 00:42:31 | barrywardell | so it can be used to figure how the bootloader interfaces with the hardware? |
| 00:44:18 | Joely | i _think_ so...only ways i've used it are as a backdoor to the cpu |
| 00:44:55 | Joely | with my little fpga kit ;) |
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| 00:47:07 | ^_Ghost_^ | hey whos it goijn. |
| 00:48:01 | Joely | hello ^_Ghost_^ |
| 00:48:16 | ^_Ghost_^ | whats happenin,. |
| 00:48:27 | ^_Ghost_^ | anyone having trouble with anapod and the 1.2 firmware? |
| 00:50:43 | Joely | uhh...i've never used anapod...so i dunno! |
| 00:54:33 | ^_Ghost_^ | oh ic, itunes+horrible! anapod is great makes things so much easier |
| 00:55:06 | scorche | thats nice...this is #rockbox not #anapod |
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| 01:03:09 | Joely | you still there mr barrywardell? hehe |
| 01:03:42 | barrywardell | yeah, i'm here. but slightly distracted by other stuff |
| 01:03:52 | barrywardell | stupid real world :P |
| 01:03:58 | Joely | haha sorry |
| 01:05:13 | Arathis | real life? never heard about it.. is it worth a download? |
| 01:05:29 | scorche | Arathis: first life |
| 01:05:47 | Arathis | hm? |
| 01:06:33 | scorche | twas a joke that you didnt get apparently ;) |
| 01:07:25 | Arathis | seems so ^^ |
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| 01:31:35 | barrywardell | gotta go now. sorry i was a little distracted tonight. Joely, I'll probably be back online tomorrow if you wanna talk more H10 stuff... |
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| 02:20:14 | volt_webguest | hello rockboxers. i just bought an ipod 5g 80gb and i can't get the bootloader in. when running "ipodpatcher 1" (the ipod is disk 1) it tells me "Error reading from disk: the parameter is incorrect." |
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| 02:32:37 | volt_webguest | i'm sorry , i got disconnected, did anyone respond to my question a few minutes ago? |
| 02:34:57 | Arathis | not yet |
| 02:36:01 | volt_webguest | oh ,well i suppose that 80gb support is not available yet |
| 02:36:05 | volt_webguest | :( |
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| 02:39:22 | Arathis | volt_webguest: perhaps you should look at the forum if it is. I don't own an ipod and so didn't look for such suport |
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| 02:44:44 | volt_webguest | Arathis: I just looked at the forum and there are already a few guys on it. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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| 02:45:26 | ineedhelp | can someone help me? |
| 02:45:56 | ineedhelp | hello? |
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| 06:15:03 | helpjukebox | anyone can to help me out a sec? |
| 06:15:12 | helpjukebox | care* |
| 06:15:44 | scorche | just ask your question and it will be answered in time |
| 06:18:54 | helpjukebox | ok i have the recorder 20 (NOT v2) and the headphone jack has that annoying problem where the headphones have to be "just right" in order to get stereo sound. ive done a bit of searching and am ready to open it up and solder if need be, but i need to know what exactly i should be looking for (ive read that it may not be the jack at all, but a board thats loose). whats the process of trying to fix this? th |
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| 06:32:30 | helpjukebox | optionally, is there a way to use the "digital output" and use this to connect my headphones/car stereo |
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| 06:42:03 | midkay | helpjukebox: you might want to try posting on the forums in the hardware section ('repairing broken players' maybe) in the meantime.. |
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| 06:46:23 | helpjukebox | ok ill try that |
| 06:47:20 | helpjukebox | thanks |
| 06:49:09 | midkay | sure.. also maybe try in here in like 12 hours.. it's nighttime for a lot of people. |
| 06:49:21 | midkay | right now, i mean. |
| 06:50:05 | helpjukebox | ha should be bedtime foro me too, but this is bugging me |
| 06:50:12 | helpjukebox | ill try again tomorrow |
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| 07:08:19 | webguest62 | hi, is there a video plug in for rockbox yet? |
| 07:09:16 | webguest62 | hello? |
| 07:09:27 | midkay | yes, but there's no sound. |
| 07:09:40 | webguest62 | awww |
| 07:10:11 | webguest62 | how long do you think it will be till its a fully-fleged video player |
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| 07:11:19 | Nirok | Morning All |
| 07:11:59 | midkay | webguest62: a while.. if you want video, get a dvd player or something that's intended to play video. not a music player. |
| 07:12:27 | webguest62 | but i wanna do everything on my nano without havig to buy a proper one |
| 07:12:43 | midkay | why'd you get the nano if it didn't support video and you wanted that? |
| 07:13:29 | Nirok | Can I get advise on how to install the rockbox chess onto my Ipod 60G Video ?? |
| 07:13:29 | webguest62 | when i bought it, i didnt know about all this stuff |
| 07:13:47 | webguest62 | not that i do, i dont wanna go out and buy an ipod video |
| 07:14:00 | webguest62 | now |
| 07:14:31 | midkay | so instead of using the apple firmware for all eternity, you now have access to like 10 different codecs, a variety of games, folder/file browsing, constant new features and fixes.. and you're sad because it doesn't play video? |
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| 07:15:11 | webguest62 | yes i am |
| 07:15:17 | webguest62 | and the interface looks shit |
| 07:15:21 | webguest26 | was disconnected.. sorry .. |
| 07:15:43 | webguest26 | Looking for help installing rockbox chess on my Ipod Plz |
| 07:16:37 | webguest26 | anyone ?? |
| 07:16:39 | midkay | webguest26: so you clearly want a cool interface and flashy animations. |
| 07:16:49 | midkay | webguest26: yeah, um, you need to install Rockbox before you can play chess. |
| 07:17:02 | midkay | the first one was @ webguest62, sorry. |
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| 07:17:43 | webguest26 | np.. |
| 07:18:12 | webguest26 | so I have to install Rockbox on my ipod first ?? |
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| 07:18:25 | midkay | webguest26: yes. |
| 07:18:54 | webguest26 | kk.. let me check into that.. forgive my ignorance.. Just never installed anything to an Ipod except Music |
| 07:19:07 | midkay | no problem, the manual is helpful. |
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| 07:27:20 | volt | hey all. i have an ipod 5.5gen 80GB player. |
| 07:27:33 | volt | eagerly awaiting the 5.5G port |
| 07:27:47 | midkay | aren't we all. :) |
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| 07:30:00 | volt | quite indeed. i hate itunes |
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| 07:30:30 | volt | well actually now that i'm using it, i hate that i'm beginning to like itunes, if that makes sense |
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| 07:48:06 | Terinjokes | ok, my bootloader mysteriously broke again just know |
| 07:48:44 | Terinjokes | this is the third time this has happened, second time this week |
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| 08:04:02 | midkay | scorche. |
| 08:04:08 | midkay | msn me. |
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| 08:27:30 | daurn | quiet |
| 08:27:31 | daurn | :S |
| 08:29:17 | Terinjokes | YELL |
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| 08:32:05 | pondlife | you woke me up |
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| 08:32:35 | pondlife | zzzz |
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| 08:35:10 | pondlife | But it was just a nightmare |
| 08:35:10 | Terinjokes | wow! |
| 08:35:22 | pondlife | You had that dream too? |
| 08:35:41 | Terinjokes | no, i had a dream of a "sad ipod" |
| 08:35:57 | * | pondlife chuckles, and is not sure why |
| 08:36:12 | pondlife | Did it cry? |
| 08:36:17 | Terinjokes | ...no wait, it wasn't dream (up horror music apple loop) |
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| 08:37:57 | Terinjokes | somethings up with my ipod, every couple of days it suddenly stops working, like it won't boot-up, but every is A-OK from the computer side (ie, itunes recognises it, and see the music, shows as a drive, etc) any ideas on why this happens? |
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| 08:39:55 | Terinjokes | i'll ask tomorrow when people are actually here |
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| 09:03:07 | pondlife | LinusN: Morning! I think I'll commit my playback/voice mods later today.. Any objections? |
| 09:03:19 | LinusN | not really |
| 09:03:41 | pondlife | OK. I'm not planning on disappearing this week |
| 09:04:01 | LinusN | good |
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| 09:42:56 | preglow_ | amiconn: there's a fully functioning speex codec on the patch tracker |
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| 09:49:48 | LinusN | gah, the encoder API patch removed the sample rate setting in the WAV header :-( |
| 09:49:57 | petur | yeps |
| 09:50:01 | LinusN | that sucks |
| 09:50:12 | petur | wanted to fix but it's not easy |
| 09:50:23 | LinusN | how come? |
| 09:50:38 | petur | for WAV it can be done with a hack but the mp3 and other enc must be restarted |
| 09:51:03 | petur | the samplerate is only known at recording start |
| 09:51:18 | petur | but the encoder already runs during pre-recording |
| 09:51:25 | LinusN | aha |
| 09:51:38 | petur | so this will break pre-rec :( |
| 09:51:45 | LinusN | of course it will |
| 09:52:06 | LinusN | if you change the sample rate while prerecording, you *will* trash the already encoded data |
| 09:52:15 | petur | true |
| 09:52:21 | LinusN | not much of a choice really |
| 09:52:36 | pondlife | Hmm, maybe I shouldn't update playback.c yet... |
| 09:52:48 | LinusN | as changing the sample rate in the middle of a MP3 stream is not allowed iirc |
| 09:53:02 | petur | so no pre-recording when doing spdif with something else than WAV |
| 09:53:10 | LinusN | nah |
| 09:54:03 | LinusN | we would not allow sample rate changes, or throw away the prerecorded data when the sample rate changes |
| 09:54:07 | * | petur lacks knowledge about mp3 encoding to see the impact |
| 09:54:25 | LinusN | i.e reinit the encoder |
| 09:54:32 | petur | with spdif it is only measured when recording starts |
| 09:54:47 | markun | preglow: will you commit the speex codec then? |
| 09:55:02 | petur | because the signal may not be there when you enter rec screen |
| 09:55:06 | LinusN | so, then we simply ignore sample rate changes once the encoder is started |
| 09:55:22 | petur | huh? |
| 09:56:06 | LinusN | hmmm, we can't prerecord if we don't have s/pdif data, can we? |
| 09:56:10 | petur | can you measure a sdamplerate when the spdif source is connected but not actually playing something? |
| 09:56:18 | LinusN | no |
| 09:56:58 | petur | we may need a detection of spdif |
| 09:57:14 | petur | and start the encoder once we see data |
| 09:57:15 | LinusN | the trick is to know when the sample rate change happened |
| 09:57:47 | LinusN | if we could see exactly when it happens, we can do a file split |
| 09:58:13 | LinusN | i doubt that we would ever be able to do that, but one can still dream, eh? |
| 09:58:46 | petur | as I said, not easy ;) |
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| 10:00:14 | LinusN | how was it done before the codec api patch? |
| 10:00:25 | LinusN | i mean the spdif sample rate detection |
| 10:00:30 | petur | WAV header is written only at recording start |
| 10:00:46 | petur | spdif samplerate measured at recording start |
| 10:00:48 | LinusN | so, the spdif must be active when starting |
| 10:00:55 | petur | very much OK for WAV |
| 10:01:19 | LinusN | so prerecording was broken even before the patch |
| 10:01:33 | petur | the other option is to pre-record in WAV buffer and only start the encoder when recording starts |
| 10:01:48 | LinusN | not a bad idea |
| 10:01:50 | petur | no, why? |
| 10:02:08 | LinusN | i mean, if you entered the recording screen with no spdif active |
| 10:02:21 | petur | ah yes |
| 10:02:22 | LinusN | ah, now i see |
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| 10:02:44 | LinusN | it would store the wav data in the buffer, not knowing the sample rate, but that woudn't matter |
| 10:02:50 | petur | but I think you got the data as soon as it was connected |
| 10:02:57 | petur | yes |
| 10:03:04 | LinusN | since it checks the sample rate when starting the recording |
| 10:03:11 | petur | exactly |
| 10:03:13 | LinusN | ok, so i think we have a nice solution |
| 10:03:27 | petur | pre-rec in WAV buffer |
| 10:03:36 | LinusN | prerecording in wav only, and sample rate check when starting the recording |
| 10:03:49 | petur | it's the only solution I can think of |
| 10:03:58 | LinusN | that means that the encoder will have a lot to do in the beginning |
| 10:04:26 | LinusN | i see one problem: |
| 10:04:28 | pondlife | Does recording have to be encoded in real time? |
| 10:04:29 | petur | and we need a WAV buffer for 30s + margi |
| 10:04:39 | petur | margin even |
| 10:04:40 | LinusN | the disk spinup when loading the encoder |
| 10:04:57 | petur | make that 30s + big margin |
| 10:05:01 | pondlife | Or can it be allowed to run a little behind if there's enough WAV buffer space? |
| 10:05:21 | LinusN | it can be behind |
| 10:05:28 | pondlife | Good |
| 10:05:37 | petur | don't know the current buffer sizes |
| 10:05:42 | LinusN | as log as the buffer allows it |
| 10:05:45 | LinusN | long even |
| 10:08:30 | LinusN | prerecording in wav would also conserve some battery |
| 10:08:48 | petur | no boosting |
| 10:09:04 | LinusN | exactly |
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| 10:09:16 | petur | I'd love an option to disable auto-shutdown during pre-rec |
| 10:09:21 | petur | must write it some day |
| 10:09:28 | preglow | markun: it needs some changes to fix some warnings |
| 10:09:34 | LinusN | does it shutdown during prerec? |
| 10:09:40 | preglow | commiting it is on my list of things to do first, but i'm short on time |
| 10:09:59 | petur | LinusN: it did some time ago |
| 10:10:10 | LinusN | that's really bad |
| 10:10:23 | petur | haven't checked latest cvs |
| 10:11:18 | petur | let me check... |
| 10:12:06 | theli_ua | heh ... i still can't use profiling ;( .... with profile enabled aac codec won't fit into IRAM :( |
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| 10:14:02 | LinusN | petur: a brief look at the code says that it shouldn't power off |
| 10:14:25 | petur | just tested, and indeed it doesn't. |
| 10:14:37 | petur | so this must have been fixed in the mean time |
| 10:14:42 | petur | nice to know |
| 10:15:38 | petur | I'm sure it did in the past as it almost made me miss a recording |
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| 10:19:19 | petur | LinusN: are you around tonight? |
| 10:19:29 | LinusN | not sure, can never tell |
| 10:20:11 | petur | I'm trying to an interrupthandler working for the isp1362 but I get a PDIR1FULL as soon as I enable interrupts on the isp |
| 10:20:24 | petur | s/to an/to get an |
| 10:20:45 | LinusN | sounds like you get constant interrupts |
| 10:21:00 | petur | you think that's it? |
| 10:21:06 | LinusN | possibly |
| 10:21:09 | petur | hmmmm |
| 10:21:28 | petur | I think I'm clearing them on the isp, must maybe check again |
| 10:21:56 | LinusN | hmm |
| 10:22:05 | LinusN | which gpio pin is it? |
| 10:22:18 | petur | if I configure INT2 (DC int) it crashes immediatly, even before enabling them on the isp |
| 10:22:23 | petur | GPIO5 |
| 10:22:40 | petur | and GPIO7 for INT2 |
| 10:23:15 | petur | with GPIO5 it doens't crash until I enable the ints in the HC |
| 10:23:52 | JdGordon | hey guys |
| 10:24:04 | petur | oh noes |
| 10:24:04 | LinusN | can i see the code that inits the irq controller? |
| 10:24:05 | JdGordon | does continue in a for loop do the i++ or does it get skipped? |
| 10:24:16 | LinusN | it does the i++ |
| 10:24:22 | JdGordon | ta |
| 10:24:42 | petur | LinusN: am at work now and the pastebin code I posted last week was for one day only |
| 10:24:51 | petur | so maybe tonight |
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| 10:25:50 | petur | which reminds me... got to work a bit ;) |
| 10:26:07 | JdGordon | rolo works on ipod doesnt it? |
| 10:26:14 | JdGordon | .. specifically the nano |
| 10:26:18 | scorche | no |
| 10:26:27 | JdGordon | AH, bugger |
| 10:26:33 | scorche | it can only load the firmware that is currently running iirc |
| 10:26:58 | JdGordon | damn, ok, so much for fail safe not copying over rockbox,ipod then :p |
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| 10:27:32 | petur | bah... my h340 hangs again after bootloader usb disconnect from this dell monitor. |
| 10:28:15 | petur | gtg |
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| 10:31:45 | tucoz | LinusN, what do you think of changing the web-page menu to something like this? http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html |
| 10:32:33 | tucoz | Where the bug reports link should point to a wikipage describing "How to report bugs" |
| 10:33:06 | LinusN | i like it, but not the black color :-) |
| 10:33:21 | tucoz | Rockbox orange perhaps ;) |
| 10:33:21 | scorche | tucoz: possibly tracker rather than flyspray also? |
| 10:33:28 | LinusN | i agree |
| 10:33:50 | tucoz | Maybe that is better. I don't know |
| 10:34:13 | JdGordon | help! im getting a dadat abort on the nano, the funciton its crashing in a function which is just a loop which goes through the entire settings list, ive tried dumping debug info onto the lcd, but either the data abort error clears the screen, or crashes before it gets a chance to display anything.. is there any other way to try debugging? |
| 10:34:38 | JdGordon | ... it doesnt crash in the sim which is the biggest problem |
| 10:34:42 | LinusN | JdGordon: are any of the setting entries on an odd address? |
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| 10:34:57 | JdGordon | LinusN: i have no idea |
| 10:35:05 | scorche | well, for people that are new, they at least have some chance at knowing what it is with "tracker"....same thing with knowing "browser", but not "lynx" |
| 10:35:05 | LinusN | i suggest you find out |
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| 10:36:00 | JdGordon | LinusN: how? the entire settings array isnt in the .map is it? |
| 10:36:19 | LinusN | JdGordon: make it logf the address of each entry |
| 10:36:39 | JdGordon | will the logf dump when it crashes? |
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| 10:36:47 | LinusN | why must it crash? |
| 10:37:00 | JdGordon | because it crashes as soon as it startes... |
| 10:37:06 | JdGordon | settings_reset is crashing |
| 10:37:31 | LinusN | i see |
| 10:37:52 | LinusN | well, then check the code to see if there is a possible alignment problem |
| 10:38:35 | JdGordon | would an alignment problem only affect the nano? (i dont know aboiut other ipods, but it works on hxxx and x5) |
| 10:38:44 | LinusN | it's an arm issue |
| 10:39:06 | tucoz | LinusN, some dark blue shade perhaps instead of black? |
| 10:39:12 | tucoz | or gray maybe |
| 10:39:22 | LinusN | or white with some fluff around it |
| 10:39:39 | amiconn | Wrong alignment would also crash on archos |
| 10:39:42 | LinusN | like "-= Documentation =-" |
| 10:39:50 | LinusN | amiconn: right |
| 10:40:10 | amiconn | Both SH1 and ARM enforce alignment, only coldfire allows lazy coding |
| 10:40:50 | JdGordon | ok, so what am i looking for? |
| 10:41:07 | LinusN | misaligned addresses |
| 10:41:29 | LinusN | i.e a word on a byte boundary etc |
| 10:41:42 | JdGordon | no, i mean, i've never had to do anything like this, where do i start? |
| 10:42:20 | LinusN | lemme see the code |
| 10:42:32 | JdGordon | thanks |
| 10:43:33 | amiconn | JdGordon: Btw, what is the current saving? |
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| 10:44:02 | amiconn | I am still puzzled about you saying that just re-adding proper settings strings increased size by about 7KB |
| 10:44:18 | JdGordon | amiconn: dunno... lemme check |
| 10:44:20 | amiconn | I check ed the size of read-only data in cvs settings.o |
| 10:44:39 | tucoz | LinusN, something like this then? http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html |
| 10:44:46 | JdGordon | LinusN: big paste @ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/DUyTE684.html |
| 10:44:46 | amiconn | The _whole_ rodata is only about 5KB; 2KB tables and 3KB strings |
| 10:44:53 | tucoz | I think the fluff was not neccessary |
| 10:45:52 | scorche | tucoz: possibly a break before each heading? |
| 10:46:08 | JdGordon | LinusN: the crashh is in the switch statement, becuase commenting that out made it run fine |
| 10:46:15 | tucoz | scorche, hmm, maybe. How do I do that? |
| 10:46:28 | bluebrother | tucoz, add a <br /> |
| 10:46:50 | tucoz | ah. I tried to get padding-top and padding-bottom to work, but didn't |
| 10:46:50 | bluebrother | or add a style='botton-margin:10px;' |
| 10:47:05 | * | amiconn would use css for that, given that most of the rockbox webpage layout uses css |
| 10:47:08 | tucoz | *it didn't work |
| 10:47:28 | bluebrother | also, how about making the headings italic? Would be nicer imo. |
| 10:47:39 | tucoz | I use css for the menu items, but the padding doesn't work |
| 10:47:42 | tucoz | I can try |
| 10:47:51 | JdGordon | LinusN: 1 line i forgot to paste.. #define get_pointer_to_gs(v) &((uint8_t *)&global_settings)[v] |
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| 10:48:23 | bluebrother | gtg now. I can have a look on this later if you want. |
| 10:48:56 | JdGordon | amiconn: curently 2216b saving on fmrecorder |
| 10:49:15 | tucoz | bluebrother, sure. got the italic to work btw. |
| 10:49:28 | tucoz | bluebrother, do i add style to the css? |
| 10:50:21 | JdGordon | LinusN: sorry, you probaly need http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/yUiRhH11.html also (the settings_list struct decleration) |
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| 10:53:12 | tucoz | amiconn, how would i add a spacing on top of the menu item? margin-top doesn't seem to work |
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| 10:55:03 | tucoz | Ok. the updated suggestion is here. http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html |
| 10:55:29 | scorche | tucoz: you dont have to give us the same link each time =) |
| 10:55:32 | linuxstb | tucoz: I think that's the best so far... |
| 10:55:36 | tucoz | hehe |
| 10:55:42 | tucoz | sorry scorche |
| 10:55:49 | tucoz | didn't think |
| 10:56:07 | tucoz | I'll just leave it there in case someone wants to continue :) |
| 10:56:19 | scorche | i think it is too, but i think it could still benefit from a break |
| 10:56:59 | scorche | actually, hold on...let me see how far down it goes in 800x600 |
| 10:57:18 | Mmmm | amiconn: the trigger settings screen should work now. About that trigger indicator though...where should it go? below all the gain text or below the peakmeter and above the text or should it be where the peakmeter is now? |
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| 10:58:09 | JdGordon | LinusN: i figured out which setting is causeing the crash. its id3_v1_first, i dont see why tho |
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| 10:58:30 | LinusN | is it perhaps the first bool entry? |
| 10:58:54 | JdGordon | no, its about 80 entries in... |
| 10:59:31 | LinusN | so there are many bool entries before that one? |
| 10:59:43 | JdGordon | OH... its a bool in settings.h but an int in settings_list.c... so that is proably why then |
| 10:59:59 | JdGordon | yes, plenty |
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| 11:00:28 | LinusN | ok, the type mismatch might be the problem then |
| 11:01:18 | JdGordon | is there a way to enable stricter type checking in the sim so it crashes there as well if this is the problem? |
| 11:01:45 | JdGordon | :) it works again |
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| 11:03:30 | preglow | we spam him! |
| 11:08:05 | JdGordon | how the heck do u accept in the vkeyboard on the ipod? |
| 11:10:24 | theli_ua | hold select |
| 11:10:39 | JdGordon | ah, thanks |
| 11:10:44 | JdGordon | i wasnt hold for long enoyugh :p |
| 11:10:53 | JdGordon | bluebrother: vkeyboard isnt in the manual? |
| 11:13:36 | amiconn | Mmmm: Not sure... probably where it was before the rework? |
| 11:14:35 | Mmmm | heh heh..yeah....but where was that? It's weird that it is putting it on top of the volume..The re-work shouldn't have moved it I dont think... |
| 11:15:02 | markun | amiconn: thanks for all your (and your sister's) Gigabeat fixes btw! |
| 11:15:07 | Mmmm | but there it is...h*4 for the y ordinate, smack on top of the volume! |
| 11:17:22 | tucoz | JdGordon, http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-370004.1.4 |
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| 11:18:01 | amiconn | Mmmm: I dunno; I almost never record anyway, and the the triger, umm..... |
| 11:18:02 | JdGordon | tucoz: ah ok, my bad... odd place to put it isnt it? |
| 11:18:12 | JdGordon | i was looking in advanced |
| 11:18:17 | amiconn | The source should tell... |
| 11:18:38 | daurn | theli_ua: did you port a nes emu? |
| 11:18:54 | theli_ua | daurn, no i didn't work on any :) |
| 11:19:04 | amiconn | markun: Np.... seems like very few devs actually care about fixing the plugins for the various LCDs... |
| 11:19:04 | tucoz | JdGordon, i would say it fits better in the file browser chapter, than in the advanced chapter |
| 11:19:22 | amiconn | And then my sister is interested in graphics, and also a bit of coding... |
| 11:19:35 | theli_ua | daurn, i even wasn't going to :/ |
| 11:20:12 | theli_ua | amiconn, i care for various lcds :) ... |
| 11:20:13 | Mmmm | amiconn: hmm we need to find someone who uses the trigger... There was a message on the forum about the trigger a few days ago so that person must use it...I'll try posting and asking them. |
| 11:20:57 | amiconn | theli_ua: I know... I said very few, not none :) |
| 11:21:14 | Mmmm | amiconn: the source just says h*4 which is no help...looks like it has always been on top of the volume..which of course makes no sense |
| 11:21:17 | amiconn | There's a lot more plugins to fix |
| 11:21:51 | amiconn | Mmmm: Indeed not... perhaps the bug has been there even longer, and went unnoticed? |
| 11:22:01 | Mmmm | could be... |
| 11:22:06 | amiconn | Probably since vbolume adjustment was added to the wrs? |
| 11:22:27 | Mmmm | that would make sense...but that was ages ago! |
| 11:23:14 | amiconn | Mr. Recording Trigger wasn't around for a long time... |
| 11:23:24 | amiconn | (aka kurzhaarrocker) |
| 11:24:16 | Mmmm | ahh..well, I'll ask this chap on the forum and then if he doesn't know I'll put it underneath the gain settings |
| 11:25:28 | Mmmm | will that fit on the recorder? |
| 11:25:53 | amiconn | It should... the new status line reduced wrs clutter quite a bit |
| 11:25:58 | JdGordon | is 256kbit mp3 too high quality for the nano atm? |
| 11:26:09 | amiconn | Btw, I would like the quality indicator to use a capital Q |
| 11:26:15 | amiconn | (in the status bar) |
| 11:26:33 | Mmmm | really? Ok...I thought it looked a bit too much like a 0 |
| 11:26:49 | Mmmm | M03 |
| 11:29:24 | amiconn | The lowercase q "hangs" out of the status bar |
| 11:29:43 | Mmmm | so does the upper case |
| 11:29:52 | Mmmm | that's why it looks like a 0 |
| 11:29:56 | scorche | JdGordon: i dont believe so... |
| 11:30:13 | * | theli_ua is prepairing for his first commit... |
| 11:41:33 | scorche | theli_ua: i wish you a high score =) |
| 11:42:17 | theli_ua | scorche, on initiall commit of zxbox by linuxstb i scored 0 warn and 0 err .. :P |
| 11:42:51 | scorche | theli_ua: might have a delayed reaction =P |
| 11:44:14 | theli_ua | let's see..... |
| 11:52:00 | theli_ua | hooray! |
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| 11:56:57 | ThreeM | hi there |
| 11:57:57 | tucoz | hi |
| 11:58:02 | ThreeM | can anyone give me an answer about Batterylifetime? I have Used Rockbox month ago on my iPod 4gen, but i decide to drop it cause 4hours of playtime doesn´t make me happy. |
| 11:58:18 | ThreeM | so i want to know, is this better now? |
| 11:58:25 | LinusN | the answer is that the battery life sucks and we don't yet know why |
| 11:58:48 | ThreeM | sry 4 my bad english, but i thik its understandable |
| 11:58:49 | ThreeM | hmm |
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| 11:59:31 | ThreeM | damn :) |
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| 12:00:28 | LinusN | agreed |
| 12:02:50 | ThreeM | hehe |
| 12:03:18 | ThreeM | ok thanks for the info, i will wait another 6 month than i have to come back and ask the same question :) |
| 12:04:18 | ThreeM | so good luck, and have a nice time |
| 12:04:39 | ivan` | you can always make a huge DC battery pack |
| 12:05:00 | ivan` | i think that's how a lot of us run rockbox |
| 12:05:12 | ThreeM | this soulution doesent satisfeyd me i think... |
| 12:06:47 | ThreeM | i will happy with 6-8hours of playtime but actual i can only have about 4hours of playback with rockbox...but i wont tell you any news about it :) |
| 12:10:05 | ThreeM | i mean unter rockbox the ipod does more often access the hdd insted of the original firmware...but it can be placebo effect |
| 12:11:55 | Mmmm | amiconn: about the Q/q issue....I found a screenshot with the uppercase version: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5882.0;attach=1070;image |
| 12:12:06 | Mmmm | see what I mean? Do you still prefer the Q? |
| 12:12:52 | LinusN | perhaps it should be an icon instead? |
| 12:15:26 | Mmmm | maybe |
| 12:16:00 | Mmmm | David-NYC: fancy making some more icons? :) |
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| 12:39:24 | pixelma | tucoz: around? |
| 12:41:45 | pixelma | I experimented with the new_rockbox.html too :) |
| 12:44:22 | linuxstb | pixelma: Do you have a link? |
| 12:44:49 | pixelma | http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.html |
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| 12:47:23 | bluebrother | pixelma, tucoz: my experiments here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/web/rockbox.html :) |
| 12:47:54 | * | Bagder likes |
| 12:49:05 | aliask | Also, the support section is above the tracker stuff, so when people are reading they'll get to that first. |
| 12:49:26 | aliask | I like it :D |
| 12:49:52 | MHen | Hi! Could I make a developer having a second look at my (essentially 4 line) patch that speeds up skipping on players with a decoder chip? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6052 |
| 12:49:53 | tucoz | I think there is too much space in bluebrother's attempt |
| 12:50:03 | tucoz | at least in my browser |
| 12:50:09 | bluebrother | hehe |
| 12:50:19 | bluebrother | but I agree it's a bit too wide spaced. |
| 12:50:23 | aliask | Perhaps remove the break between the heading and subsection? |
| 12:50:39 | tucoz | yes, that would look better |
| 12:50:42 | aliask | And left align the heading? |
| 12:50:57 | bluebrother | I like pixelma's attempt but the yellow background is a bit ... disturbing IMO. |
| 12:51:18 | pixelma | ok... I'll give it the bright blue in a few sec |
| 12:51:51 | bluebrother | I was just about suggesting that :) |
| 12:52:00 | Bagder | yeps, and "Tracker" is better than flyspray (I noticed the change just now) |
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| 12:52:28 | pixelma | there... |
| 12:52:39 | Bagder | nice |
| 12:52:41 | tucoz | much better |
| 12:52:57 | tucoz | one has to be careful with the rockbox orange colour |
| 12:53:05 | tucoz | *yellow |
| 12:53:07 | bluebrother | nice, but another idea: how about using a white font and making the bright blue only a thin line around the text? |
| 12:54:59 | linuxstb | Anyone know if it's easy to update the forums to use a new menu? Can anyone apart from Paul_The_Nerd do it? |
| 12:55:44 | Bagder | I think Jeff and Paul_the_nerd are the ones that can do it |
| 12:55:51 | tucoz | Could rockbox take over the forum hosting? |
| 12:56:39 | Bagder | Jeff registered rockbox.org and only asked to get to do the forum hosting when he gave us the domain |
| 12:56:46 | tucoz | ah |
| 12:56:58 | linuxstb | Would we want to? It only rarely has problems, and I would guess it takes a lot of bandwidth. |
| 12:57:02 | tucoz | ok. well, it works fine as it is i guess. |
| 12:57:20 | Bagder | as long as there's no major problems I think we're good this way |
| 12:57:39 | Bagder | we'll always have to rely on single persons for particular services |
| 12:57:42 | tucoz | was just curious to why they was on an hosted elswhere |
| 12:57:59 | tucoz | -bad grammar |
| 12:58:13 | tucoz | and spelling |
| 12:58:28 | Bagder | we host rockbox.org on two servers too these days, as the download server is located elsewhere |
| 12:58:47 | tucoz | I see |
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| 13:08:35 | LinusN | i can update the forums |
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| 13:11:45 | Mmmm | linuxstb: has your build server gone mad or is it me? |
| 13:13:08 | amiconn | eurgh |
| 13:13:20 | Mmmm | hmmm... |
| 13:13:30 | bluebrother | "read only filesystem" doesn't sound good ... |
| 13:14:08 | bluebrother | Bagder, the cvs page says "These are complete installation archives." Shouldn't there be an additional line saying something like "excluding the fonts, get them from the daily builds page"? |
| 13:14:19 | amiconn | Better than 'write only filesystem' ;) |
| 13:14:59 | bluebrother | ;) |
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| 13:49:56 | JdGordon | what are peoples feelings towards having a submenu under the main menu named "user menu" (or something) where the user can put their favorite menu items there? |
| 13:49:58 | * | MarcoPolo is setting up kde 4 environment on its new computer |
| 13:51:16 | aliask | JdGordon: I like the idea - it might satisfy people against the whole rework for a while :) |
| 13:51:45 | senab | just saw that libfaad has been optimized a bit, can it decode in realtime now? |
| 13:52:06 | Mmmm | senab: it can on the h140 |
| 13:52:23 | * | bluebrother agrees with aliask |
| 13:52:48 | senab | mmmm: only on coldfire then? |
| 13:52:54 | * | JdGordon didnt mention this is actually "impossible" with the current menus code, but will be very easy to add into my menu patch |
| 13:53:04 | aliask | I assumed that. |
| 13:53:05 | JdGordon | ... so checking if i should get it done? |
| 13:53:35 | JdGordon | also, any objections to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/1832 ? sounds like a bit of fun to code :p |
| 13:53:39 | Mmmm | senab: I don't know, the commit relating to it also mentions the ipods i think. But I haven't tested as I don't have one |
| 13:54:05 | senab | ahhh ok, i'm not on my home pc so i can't compile here |
| 13:54:47 | bluebrother | senab, there was some discussion on irc yesterday. IIRC it improves the ipods also to the point of making the files playable |
| 13:55:03 | senab | i'll have a look at irc logs then |
| 13:55:05 | senab | cheers |
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| 13:56:13 | senab | looks like it's playing in realtime |
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| 13:57:56 | linuxstb | senab: Yes, the libfaad optimisations help the ipod/H10 a lot as well. I would be interested to know what bitrates can now play in realtime - I only have a single 128kbps AAC file. |
| 13:58:00 | amiconn | JdGordon: We already have resume *and* bookmarks. Do we really need yet another mechanism? |
| 13:58:12 | amiconn | (note that I do not fully understand the proposal) |
| 13:58:21 | JdGordon | no, but its a bit of fun... |
| 13:58:36 | JdGordon | i tihnk he sort of wanted a way to play the playlist backwards |
| 13:58:41 | senab | linuxstb: i'll test some files now |
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| 13:59:06 | JdGordon | buggerit.. ill so the user menu instead |
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| 14:03:12 | LinusN | i don't understand the suggestion in fs1832 |
| 14:03:53 | LinusN | JdGordon: you mean add user menu to your patch? |
| 14:04:47 | JdGordon | yes |
| 14:04:59 | LinusN | i think that patch is big enough already |
| 14:05:00 | JdGordon | can someone commit something so cvs builds again? |
| 14:05:05 | JdGordon | nevaaa!!! |
| 14:05:27 | Mmmm | LinusN: fs1832 What he is saying is, if you lose your place, then start the playlist at the end and work backwards so that you still hear all of the tracks. Rubbish IMO! :) |
| 14:05:32 | senab | linuxstb: what your 128kbps raw aac / mp4? |
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| 14:05:44 | linuxstb | mp4 - Rockbox doesn't support raw AAC. |
| 14:05:59 | LinusN | Mmmm: like bluebrother would say: "useless" |
| 14:06:14 | Mmmm | yeah :D |
| 14:06:15 | senab | ahh ok, haven't tried aac in rb before |
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| 14:06:46 | bluebrother | should I add a comment "useless IMO"? ;-) |
| 14:06:55 | LinusN | :-) |
| 14:06:59 | linuxstb | senab: It also only works reliably with itunes-encoded files. But I think the mp4 parsing patch helps solve that problem - it's not in CVS, but may be in your builds. |
| 14:07:10 | Mmmm | bluebrother: do it! :D |
| 14:07:17 | bluebrother | sounds like my way of classifying requests gets kind of known to some people ... |
| 14:07:19 | obo | Hi - could someone tell me if a couple of patches that add new features are ever likely to make it in, or if they are features that aren't wanted |
| 14:07:29 | * | bluebrother asks himself if this is good or bad. |
| 14:07:33 | LinusN | obo: sure |
| 14:07:36 | linuxstb | piezo and headphone switch? |
| 14:07:41 | obo | the patches are to add audioscrobbler logging, and the headphone unplug |
| 14:07:50 | LinusN | i like headphone unplug |
| 14:07:51 | daurn | bluebrother: why does it matter if you think its useless? |
| 14:08:08 | daurn | its 1 minute of coding for a feature a few people would use |
| 14:08:58 | obo | LinusN: that one is FS 4899 - is that a sensible way of doing things? |
| 14:09:04 | senab | the ipod autopause works beautifully |
| 14:09:12 | senab | never had any problems with it |
| 14:09:20 | linuxstb | Does it pause playback or stop it? |
| 14:09:38 | obo | it pauses - with an option to resume as well |
| 14:09:55 | linuxstb | Does the idle timeout work when music is paused? |
| 14:09:59 | obo | will also rewind - someone wanted that for audiobooks |
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| 14:10:38 | bluebrother | daurn, adding lots of features that would get used by <0.1% of the users is bloat imo. |
| 14:10:40 | linuxstb | Is the rewind specific to your headphone patch? I can imagine that being useful for people who stop and then resume audiobooks using the normal method. |
| 14:10:46 | jonno | grr.... damn comp froze |
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| 14:10:54 | obo | linuxstb: it's specific to the patch |
| 14:11:21 | daurn | bluebrother: i disagree |
| 14:11:27 | LinusN | obo: it's spelled "initialised" (or "initialized") :-) |
| 14:11:40 | * | amiconn wonders who actually pauses by unplugging the headphone |
| 14:11:43 | daurn | bluebrother: just hide them in a menu |
| 14:11:45 | daurn | :P |
| 14:11:49 | amiconn | I don't unplug if I just want to pause |
| 14:12:13 | obo | amiconn: I find it useful if my ipod is burried in a pocket with hold on... |
| 14:12:29 | JdGordon | amiconn: isnt it used by when the headphones accidently get unplguged moer than using that to pause..? |
| 14:12:39 | daurn | amiconn: if the headphones fall out - you don't want the song to keep going while you plug it in again - you want it to be exactly where it left off |
| 14:12:41 | LinusN | amiconn: sometimes it's nice to have it pause if you accidentally unplug the phones |
| 14:12:50 | daurn | haha - 3 responses |
| 14:12:53 | amiconn | accidentally unplugged? How the heck should that happen?? |
| 14:12:57 | obo | LinusN: ah, oops :) |
| 14:12:58 | LinusN | amiconn: does it matter |
| 14:13:00 | LinusN | ? |
| 14:13:12 | amiconn | I just think it's a weird feature |
| 14:13:16 | obo | amiconn: it's more likely with the default ipod phones - no right angle plug |
| 14:13:20 | daurn | amiconn: easily - happens all the time when i'm walking, and earphone cord snags on a tree branch |
| 14:13:50 | daurn | or i'm trying to get my phone out of my pocket, and i accidently pull the earphones out |
| 14:14:04 | LinusN | i think it's a nice feature with little impact |
| 14:14:14 | linuxstb | The impact seems to be a new thread. |
| 14:14:28 | obo | the thread is only active if you turn the feature on |
| 14:14:37 | amiconn | A whole new thread? |
| 14:14:38 | bluebrother | Mmmm, commented :) |
| 14:14:47 | amiconn | I don't think that's necessary |
| 14:14:54 | LinusN | and new threads aren't that much of an impact with the new scheduler, is it? |
| 14:14:54 | Mmmm | I love it! :D |
| 14:15:12 | amiconn | LinusN: No, but I still think it's unnecessary |
| 14:15:23 | amiconn | Why can't it be handled as a button event? |
| 14:15:29 | obo | the earlier versions of the patch had the code burried in playback.c - that caused problems when it was rebuffering |
| 14:15:30 | LinusN | amiconn: we have a lot of "unnecessary" features |
| 14:15:44 | LinusN | ah, you mean the thread |
| 14:15:46 | amiconn | I mean the thread. The feature itself is a different matter |
| 14:15:50 | bluebrother | btw, has someone (except me) discovered slow downs in the scrolling with the new scheduler? |
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| 14:16:18 | LinusN | bluebrother: that's to be expected |
| 14:16:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Yes. What target do you use? |
| 14:16:23 | daurn | i want to get a rockbox compatible device :S |
| 14:16:30 | daurn | what do you guys suggest? |
| 14:16:41 | bluebrother | h120. The funny thing is, when backlight fading kicks in the scrolling gets faster |
| 14:17:01 | linuxstb | backlight fading boosts the CPU IIRC. |
| 14:17:03 | obo | amiconn: I couldn't get unplugging to cause an event |
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| 14:17:06 | daurn | either flash, or 60gb + |
| 14:17:52 | daurn | (and fairly cheap in comparsion to others) - if possible |
| 14:17:54 | aliask | bluebrother: The scheduler only boosts when it's really necessary (ie. for music playback) if I understand correctly. The UI (which scrolling is a part of) has a low-ish priority by the looks of it. |
| 14:18:24 | aliask | So when backlight fades the CPU has to be boosted, and thus the scrolling benefits as well. |
| 14:18:25 | bluebrother | what do the numbers actually mean? High number == low priority? Or vice versa? |
| 14:18:25 | linuxstb | daurn: The only supported flash devices are the Ondio and the old Nano. The only supported devices which come with a 60GB drive are ipods, but you can upgrade most devices to 60GB or more. |
| 14:18:54 | daurn | whats the sansa? |
| 14:18:59 | daurn | e200 - w/e |
| 14:19:07 | bluebrother | the sansa isn't supportet atm. |
| 14:19:08 | linuxstb | Sorry, the X5 has a 60GB version I think... |
| 14:19:09 | aliask | Max 8gb flash player - not supported yet. |
| 14:19:27 | daurn | hmmm |
| 14:19:34 | daurn | should i wait for ipod 5.5G? |
| 14:19:40 | daurn | (and grab an 80gb) |
| 14:20:15 | webguest30 | a wierd question: how would i decide what to put in different files if i was to split /apps/plugins/jpeg.c into a subdir and files |
| 14:20:30 | linuxstb | The 5.5G isn't supported yet, but it looks like it will be relatively easy to port - the only difference found so far is that the disk is formatted with a 2048-byte logical sector size. |
| 14:20:55 | linuxstb | The existing 5G LCD driver works fine on the 5.5G. |
| 14:21:21 | Mmmm | bluebrother: you didn't use the word "useless" once! In fact, you used the word "useful" instead! |
| 14:21:42 | bluebrother | hehe :) |
| 14:21:55 | Mmmm | :D |
| 14:22:14 | senab | linuxstb: where can you see the cpu boost ratio in rb? |
| 14:22:30 | linuxstb | In the audio thread debug screen. |
| 14:22:48 | daurn | linuxstb: how long until the port is done? |
| 14:22:53 | senab | oh ye, i was looking in cpu frequency |
| 14:23:30 | senab | itunes - 128kbits vbr 75% boost |
| 14:23:43 | daurn | linuxstb: have you read last reply to this thread?: this thread |
| 14:23:59 | aliask | linuxstb: How did you test the LCD driver on the 5.5g? |
| 14:24:00 | daurn | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=7e6bbc2c36ba0de462e05b9fca1f3da7&topic=6475.30 |
| 14:24:19 | senab | ]itunes - 160kbits vbr 80% boost |
| 14:24:29 | linuxstb | daurn: Yes. That answers your question about when the port will be done. |
| 14:24:44 | theli_ua | senab, what's wrong with that rockboy patches? |
| 14:25:03 | daurn | linuxstb: it does? |
| 14:25:08 | senab | itunes - 192kbits vbr 85% boost |
| 14:25:33 | linuxstb | daurn: Yes. Kalthare and DrMoreau are the only two people working on it, and they've posted their progress in that thread. |
| 14:26:18 | daurn | ok |
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| 14:28:22 | Slasheri | bluebrother: hmm, how did you experience the scrolling slowdown with h120. What type of file did you had playing when the slowdown occurred? |
| 14:28:50 | bluebrother | Slasheri, I believe it was an ogg file. Can check ... |
| 14:29:48 | senab | my nero mp4's aren't working, and by the look of it it's because they have an IOD |
| 14:29:53 | Slasheri | plaese check the bitrate also |
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| 14:30:03 | senab | whereas iTunes don't contain one (which is wrong) |
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| 14:30:45 | Slasheri | and tell me how it's possible to reproduce the issue, because if backlight fading affects the directory scrolling speed, that sounds weird |
| 14:31:39 | bluebrother | Slasheri, I can see it with ogg, ~150kbit but also with mp3, ~172 kbit (vbr) |
| 14:32:06 | Slasheri | hmm, how does it exactly happen? |
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| 14:32:14 | bluebrother | it seems not only to happen with the backlight. I change to the id3 screen and look at the path (as it's usually longer than the display width) |
| 14:32:29 | bluebrother | the scrolling sometimes is a bit "stuttering" |
| 14:32:37 | Slasheri | ah.. so you mean line scrolling |
| 14:32:57 | Slasheri | how fast do you have configured it to scroll the text? |
| 14:33:18 | bluebrother | yeah, I guess I was a bit imprecise with my wording |
| 14:33:20 | Slasheri | that is probably caused because scrolling thread have the lower system priority |
| 14:33:36 | Slasheri | you could try changing the priority higher and see if that helps |
| 14:33:50 | bluebrother | when backlight fading starts the scrolling gets smooth for that time. |
| 14:34:09 | Slasheri | yep, then it's just the priority issue and is very easily fixed |
| 14:34:23 | bluebrother | speed: 11, step size: 2 |
| 14:34:26 | Slasheri | because system threads have lower priority than the user interface |
| 14:34:32 | senab | where is the mp4 metaparser in the rockbox source? |
| 14:34:37 | bluebrother | without music playing it works as before. |
| 14:34:45 | Slasheri | senab: apps/metadata.c |
| 14:34:50 | bluebrother | how can I change the priority? Is it hardcoded in the source? |
| 14:35:02 | Slasheri | bluebrother: yep, you need to recompile |
| 14:35:16 | senab | thanks |
| 14:35:22 | senab | i'll have a look later |
| 14:35:31 | Slasheri | change the priority from PRIORITY_SYSTEM to PRIORITY_USER_INTERFACE in the lcd-h100.c (IIRC) |
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| 14:38:39 | linuxstb | senab: There is also code in apps/codecs/libm4a/ which may need changing as well. |
| 14:39:24 | linuxstb | senab: The code in get_metadata() is used for the initial parsing before the track is loaded into memory, and the code in libm4a is used by the AAC codec when playing the file. |
| 14:40:07 | linuxstb | senab: Also, are you using Lear's mp4 metadata patch from the patch tracker? |
| 14:40:56 | linuxstb | senab: If you are planning to make any changes to the mp4 parts of get_metadata(), I think it would be better to work from Lear's patch, rather than CVS. |
| 14:42:12 | bluebrother | Slasheri, changed. Still stuttering. |
| 14:42:57 | bluebrother | non that I mind too much (don't use a wps with scrolling lines) but when your wps scrolls it looks a bit ... strange. |
| 14:44:57 | bluebrother | I fear some of those eye-candy obsessed user will report this as bug. |
| 14:48:08 | Slasheri | bluebrother: did you change the both places? |
| 14:48:13 | Slasheri | the first one was for simulator only |
| 14:48:19 | Slasheri | i have now committed a fix in cvs |
| 14:48:21 | bluebrother | both? |
| 14:48:32 | Slasheri | yep, there are two create threads in the file |
| 14:48:36 | bluebrother | oh. I think I missed the other then. |
| 14:48:39 | Slasheri | :) |
| 14:48:46 | Slasheri | so you missed the real one ;) |
| 14:49:13 | bluebrother | d'oh! Should have noted the #ifdef SIMULATOR myself. Indeed, misse the real one. |
| 14:50:14 | amiconn | Slasheri: You did not catch all lcd drivers... |
| 14:50:30 | Slasheri | amiconn: not all, but those are for archos only without scheduling.. |
| 14:51:17 | amiconn | nope |
| 14:51:21 | Slasheri | s/scheduling/priorities/ |
| 14:51:24 | amiconn | lcd-recorder.c is also used for iFP |
| 14:51:35 | amiconn | ..and then there is lcd-remote-2bit-vi.c |
| 14:51:36 | Slasheri | ah, ok.. i will fix them all :) |
| 14:51:55 | bluebrother | aah, way better now :) |
| 14:53:05 | bluebrother | thanks! |
| 14:53:20 | Slasheri | great :) |
| 14:56:01 | LinusN | obo: what do you mean with "couldn't get unplugging to cause an event"? |
| 14:56:49 | obo | LinusN: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4899#comment7378 - this was just a guess from me |
| 14:57:43 | LinusN | obo: why would you want an interrupt? |
| 14:58:17 | LinusN | what amiconn and i mean is that you could do the polling in the button interrupt |
| 14:58:31 | LinusN | the same polling that you do in the thread |
| 14:58:39 | obo | LinusN: ah, okay |
| 14:59:01 | LinusN | and send SYS_PHONE_UNPLUGGED or SYS_PHONE_PLUGGED events to the button queue |
| 14:59:31 | LinusN | and then the default event handler could take care of them |
| 14:59:40 | obo | LinusN: okay, makes sense. I'll rework it tonight |
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| 15:00:03 | obo | LinusN: thanks for looking at it anyway :) |
| 15:00:13 | LinusN | you're welcome |
| 15:04:22 | amiconn | LinusN: Build server 127.0.0.1 is in need of a m68k-elf-gcc upgrade.. |
| 15:04:35 | LinusN | oh? |
| 15:05:14 | amiconn | Check the 12:45 build for H300 |
| 15:05:47 | amiconn | m68k-elf-gcc 3.4.1, and it throws an error, 'insn doesn't satisfy its constraints' |
| 15:06:02 | amiconn | 3.4.4 still has the bug, in 3.4.6 it's fixed |
| 15:06:49 | LinusN | ok, so i need to upgrade to a plain 3.4.6? |
| 15:10:07 | linuxstb | It's fixed in 3.4.5 as well - I noticed at least one build server still running that version. |
| 15:14:42 | daurn | aren't odd gcc releases |
| 15:14:46 | daurn | '"unstable" |
| 15:17:30 | * | theli_ua wonders if it worth trying to port CPC emu which notes states that you need "a fast system" .... :/ |
| 15:17:49 | daurn | theli_ua: NES |
| 15:17:50 | daurn | NOW |
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| 15:18:07 | theli_ua | daurn, i;m not really interested in NES/GG/MS :) |
| 15:18:16 | daurn | (or - neogeo, but that needs horsepower) |
| 15:18:28 | daurn | for neogeo, try porting "gngeo" |
| 15:18:48 | theli_ua | and not ... SNES/PSX/MSX/PS2/XBOX/XBOX360/GC/Neo-Geo/NeoGeo-Pocket :D |
| 15:18:59 | daurn | theli_ua: uh... why not... |
| 15:19:12 | theli_ua | i'm sure our targets won't cope with gngeo |
| 15:19:19 | daurn | oh, you could try making a dreamcast emulator ;) |
| 15:19:24 | theli_ua | he-he |
| 15:19:40 | daurn | GBA? |
| 15:19:47 | aliask | Scumm? |
| 15:20:02 | theli_ua | daurn, my only rockbox-capable device is iPod mini .... 4 colors 138x110 screen .. 5 buttons ... |
| 15:20:03 | daurn | he won't get donations |
| 15:20:03 | daurn | :P |
| 15:20:22 | daurn | theli_ua: nes..... - why don't you want nes? |
| 15:20:25 | theli_ua | ScummVM can only be usable on Video iPod i think |
| 15:20:43 | theli_ua | daurn, i miss one more button on mini for nes :D |
| 15:20:56 | markun | and gigabeat of course :) |
| 15:20:56 | daurn | ??? |
| 15:21:09 | daurn | oh |
| 15:21:13 | theli_ua | markun, oh yes ... when port will be usable ;) |
| 15:21:14 | aliask | markun: How's the gigabeat coming? |
| 15:21:21 | linuxstb | theli_ua: When was statement "a fast system" written? |
| 15:21:41 | daurn | theli_ua: scroll right/left for right left? (keep hands at top of wheel) |
| 15:21:50 | theli_ua | linuxstb, arnold's author uses 2.4Ghz development system .... he states about fast system |
| 15:21:51 | * | LinusN wants Pinball Dreams on his ipod 5g |
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| 15:22:02 | daurn | i want PSX on my watch |
| 15:22:35 | aliask | Did you know that the Nintendo DS only has a 67mhz ARM? |
| 15:22:51 | linuxstb | Plus what other chips? |
| 15:23:11 | aliask | Not sure, but they got Scumm running realtime on most games on that chip alone. |
| 15:23:37 | theli_ua | linuxstb, other cpc emulators i found once again use Marat's Fayzullin z80 emulation... |
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| 15:24:38 | amiconn | LinusN: Amiga emu? |
| 15:24:48 | LinusN | nah, the real thing |
| 15:24:59 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Should be easy to replace by a GPL'd Z80 core though. What license is the rest of the code? |
| 15:25:10 | theli_ua | linuxstb, GPL |
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| 15:28:56 | markun | aliask: When I've figured out how apps.lds works (and some small changes to crt0.S) I can try to boot rockbox for the first time |
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| 15:29:13 | aliask | Woohoo |
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| 15:29:25 | markun | I don't expect it to work, but we'll see |
| 15:29:25 | aliask | I'm really looking forward to the Gigabeat port for some reason |
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| 15:31:03 | linuxstb | markun: What CPU frequency are you running the gigabeat at during your tests? |
| 15:31:12 | markun | 296 MHz :) |
| 15:31:18 | linuxstb | And that seems reliable? |
| 15:31:37 | markun | yes, it's the default frequency |
| 15:31:49 | linuxstb | Nice. Any idea what the Toshiba firmware does? |
| 15:32:52 | markun | I think they leave it at that speed and have a instruction to disconnect the clock in the idle loop, until there is a interrupt |
| 15:34:38 | markun | linuxstb: I would really like to commit the wolfson generalisation soon. Could you test it for me on your ipod(s?) |
| 15:36:37 | LinusN | speaking of wolfson, do we have any indications at all that the 5-band hw eq is present on any ipod? |
| 15:37:28 | markun | LinusN: only on the ipod 5g I think |
| 15:37:48 | LinusN | i certainly don't have a 5-band hw eq on my 5g |
| 15:38:38 | linuxstb | So the hardware EQ doesn't work at all for you? |
| 15:38:42 | LinusN | only the shelving filters work |
| 15:39:14 | LinusN | so it's equal to a simple bass/treble setting |
| 15:39:55 | linuxstb | That seems to be what everyone says... We don't have the exact datasheet for the WM8975 though - we're just guessing from whatever publically available datasheets are on Wolfson's website. |
| 15:40:35 | linuxstb | Sorry, it's the WM8758 in the 5g... |
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| 15:43:08 | LinusN | it's funny that we have support for a 5-band hw eq that we don't even know if it exists |
| 15:43:30 | linuxstb | Adding support for it was the only way to know it doesn't exist... |
| 15:43:49 | markun | :) |
| 15:44:00 | LinusN | so what do we do now? |
| 15:44:46 | markun | remove it again and fix the bass and treble settings? |
| 15:45:54 | LinusN | gets my vote |
| 15:46:24 | linuxstb | It could be worth reviewing more Wolfson datasheets to see if there are other codecs with HW EQs, but with different documentation. But if that fails, I agree we should just use it to implement normal bass/treble. |
| 15:46:57 | amiconn | Didn't someone contact wolfson? |
| 15:46:59 | linuxstb | But it's possible Apple simple have a custom version without those filters. |
| 15:47:03 | linuxstb | ^simply |
| 15:47:22 | linuxstb | I think so, but forget the outcome... |
| 15:47:36 | linuxstb | Someone should search their local copy of the logs... |
| 15:51:08 | markun | LinusN: we are still trying to identify the LCD driver IC in the Gigabeat. From our logs: |
| 15:51:13 | markun | "2006.09.21:15:13:57 <[toffe]> there are 3 references :64a-r12 md220 and fh2185t or 65t" |
| 15:51:30 | markun | does any of those numbers ring a bell? |
| 15:52:49 | LinusN | not really |
| 15:53:36 | markun | They people who made the LCD module (http://www.tmdisplay.com/tm_dsp/en/index.html) are not really cooperating |
| 15:53:47 | LinusN | they seldom are |
| 15:53:59 | markun | First they didn't want to give me the info because it was a custom LCD module for Toshiba |
| 15:54:38 | markun | When I asked about a very similar module they didn't want to tell me because I'm not a company |
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| 15:56:35 | markun | I've now sent an email to the 'linux support desk' from toshiba. These guys also made toshiba give me their GPL stuff. They forwarded my request but told me not to be too optimistic. |
| 15:57:04 | LinusN | that sucks |
| 15:57:29 | lowlight | LinusN, linuxstb: regarding the eq...http://www.rockbox.org/irc/rockbox-20060827.txt @ 00.36.53 |
| 15:57:48 | nuidelyn | Send death threats until they reveal the details, or kidnap a high-profile employee. It's the only language hardware companies understand! |
| 15:58:23 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:58:39 | nuidelyn | TeLL uS ABout THE eQ oR WE mAIl anOTHER fingER |
| 15:58:51 | LinusN | lol |
| 15:59:06 | nuidelyn | it'd certainly get rockbox in the news :) hehe |
| 15:59:34 | LinusN | "Rockbox gives Wolfson the finger" |
| 15:59:42 | aliask | Hahahahaha |
| 15:59:44 | nuidelyn | hehehe |
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| 16:04:10 | daurn | lol |
| 16:04:15 | daurn | looks like "mall" |
| 16:04:25 | daurn | was wondering wtf you were talking about |
| 16:04:45 | daurn | - the i saw it was "mail" :P |
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| 16:12:06 | theli_ua | daurn, do you know fast, plain C, GPL z80 emulator? |
| 16:12:21 | daurn | uh |
| 16:12:25 | daurn | z81 |
| 16:13:36 | theli_ua | daurn, http://rus.members.beeb.net/z81.html ? |
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| 16:18:14 | linuxstb | theli_ua: We have three in Rockbox already... |
| 16:18:37 | theli_ua | linuxstb, o yeah.. pacbox, rockboy , zxbox |
| 16:18:51 | theli_ua | i wonder which is better :/ |
| 16:19:04 | linuxstb | It would be nice to find out, and then move it to the plugin lib. |
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| 16:20:03 | daurn | btw, theli_ua |
| 16:20:10 | theli_ua | ? |
| 16:20:16 | * | daurn points out how many buttons a zx80 has |
| 16:20:45 | theli_ua | :D |
| 16:21:14 | theli_ua | daurn, many games support cotroling with kempston joystick ... which has only one button and directions |
| 16:22:48 | amiconn | The gameboy cpu isn't plain z80 |
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| 16:24:11 | theli_ua | amiconn, yes , it has a slightly different instruction set than a standard Z80, and integrated sound generation |
| 16:25:01 | amiconn | And there's excessive bank switching support... |
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| 16:26:40 | markun | anyone here with a iaudio x5 who wants to test aac playback? |
| 16:28:00 | naltrus | Hi. there is intention to open a port for Philips hdd6320? |
| 16:28:20 | theli_ua | O_o .. just looked at rockboy's 'generic scaling' it's the same i use in zxbox .... hm ... wonder why then rockboy is not enabled for all targets ..... |
| 16:28:31 | markun | naltrus: not many hdd6320 users here probably |
| 16:28:57 | markun | naltrus: is there a support forum where you can ask if someone wants to work on a port? |
| 16:28:57 | linuxstb | naltrus: No-one with a hdd6320 has expressed any intent... Is that another PortalPlayer/mi4 device? |
| 16:29:31 | markun | linuxstb: the key for mi4decrypt is not yet known.. |
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| 16:29:51 | linuxstb | Seems it uses the PP5022... |
| 16:29:55 | Bagder | it might be possible to do as linuxstb did |
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| 16:30:05 | Bagder | to get the BL code from flash |
| 16:30:13 | markun | how? |
| 16:30:16 | markun | jtag? |
| 16:30:41 | Bagder | just reading from the flash and dumping to a file |
| 16:30:46 | Bagder | assuming that ata works |
| 16:30:47 | naltrus | how i can get the BL from flash? |
| 16:31:00 | naltrus | the device is only mtp access? |
| 16:31:02 | markun | Ah yes, we can run unencrypted firmwares.. |
| 16:31:26 | Bagder | yeah, most likely at least |
| 16:32:27 | markun | naltrus: you can buy a case to connect your 1.8" hdd to USB |
| 16:32:35 | linuxstb | Some of the people on this thread look like they are interested in hacking the hdd6320: http://forums.digitaltrends.com/showthread.php?t=10042&page=3&pp=10 |
| 16:34:00 | linuxstb | naltrus: There is no way to access the drive via UMS? |
| 16:34:02 | markun | naltrus: you can start by creating a wiki page and put some photos of the PCB there to identify the other components |
| 16:35:24 | markun | linuxstb: ah, and rockbox uses the UMS mode of the original firmware on the portalplayer targets, right? |
| 16:36:41 | naltrus | I need to open the device and extract the HD connect with case to access the drive via UMS? |
| 16:37:26 | * | Bagder doesn't see how scrolling can be as important as UI |
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| 16:38:48 | markun | naltrus: If the firmware only supports MTP.. |
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| 16:49:13 | theli_ua | linuxstb, it seems that zxbox optimizations did increase speed on coldfire targets :D... that strange ... because when jbgordon tested on h300 speed was the same ... |
| 16:50:00 | theli_ua | anyone with h300 here? |
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| 16:51:38 | linuxstb | naltrus: We're just guessing about UMS mode - what happens when you plug it into your computer? Can you access the disk via a drive letter? |
| 16:56:23 | Davide-NYC | Anyone want to do a super quick bugfix? |
| 16:56:24 | Davide-NYC | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6063 |
| 16:56:54 | naltrus | linuxstb: I can't access via drive letter. I need to install a plug-in to access from explorer or use wmp10 to access via MTP. In explorer when plug Philips in my computer i can see Philips HDD63XX GoGear mounted like Windows Portable Device(WPD) |
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| 17:03:20 | naltrus | linuxstb: when acces from explorer only can access to 2 dirs : "Data" and "Media". |
| 17:03:49 | linuxstb | "Data" probably gives you access to the hard drive itself. Is there a "System" directory in there? |
| 17:04:01 | linuxstb | ... with a PP5022.MI4 or similar file? |
| 17:04:16 | naltrus | linuxstb: in the dir "Data" there a dir "_System" that is empty |
| 17:06:54 | naltrus | linuxstb: when i put a firmware ".ebn" or a font ".bin" in this dir "Data\_System". when the device restart install de firmware and in the next boot the dir is empty again? |
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| 17:09:19 | linuxstb | OK... Then it needs someone to be brave and attempt to install a test Rockbox build. |
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| 17:11:45 | naltrus | linuxstb: what will can append to device with the test RockBox builds? |
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| 17:17:32 | linuxstb | naltrus: I don't understand your question. The tests will just be to try and access different parts of the hardware - e.g. writing a file to disk, accessing the LCD, trying to read the button status. |
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| 17:36:18 | naltrus | linuxstb: where i can find the test Rockbox build to install in my device? |
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| 17:38:19 | linuxstb | In CVS - you'll need to download the source and compile it yourself. |
| 17:39:26 | linuxstb | But there is no official "test build", but the "bootloader" build for the Tatung Elio TPJ-1022 is still in the testing stages. So that (or a slightly modified version of that) might run on your device. |
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| 18:12:26 | bluebrother | is there a way to show all tasks on FS that I'm watching? |
| 18:12:52 | mray | hi dudes, i just installed the new rockbox on my iRiver H320 but i suddenly can't use my buttons anymore - it seems to be "frozen" and i can't restart. is that a known issue? |
| 18:13:39 | mray | feels a little bit weird to isntall a new OS and the first thing you do is: not be able to restart :P |
| 18:13:54 | linuxstb | Sounds like it's crashed (which isn't common). Have you tried the reset button? |
| 18:14:04 | mray | yes |
| 18:14:20 | linuxstb | And then what happens? |
| 18:14:22 | mray | at least i pressed the "stop" button for quite a while |
| 18:15:04 | mray | i maanged to navigate to the directory of an album and suddenly no button shows any response on the tiny-font black-white view |
| 18:16:13 | mray | i see the list of containing songs, and on the top there is my battery, a volume icon a play icon, an arrow icon , the time and a CD icon |
| 18:16:41 | mray | wait a moment..... |
| 18:16:53 | pondlife | The CD means it's accessing disc... |
| 18:17:10 | mray | you mean "reset" button like those tiny buttons where you have to use a pencil to use them?? |
| 18:17:30 | pondlife | Yes, the small hole on the left side.under the mic |
| 18:17:35 | * | linuxstb is expecting a nice score when the latest CVS commit finishes... |
| 18:17:38 | mray | !!!!!!! |
| 18:17:50 | mray | thanks i can try that without risk hm? |
| 18:18:08 | pondlife | Yes |
| 18:18:19 | pondlife | It will power your player down, using hardware |
| 18:18:27 | pondlife | Then you can hold play to power it up again. |
| 18:18:39 | pondlife | Might be worth a CHKDSK (or whatever) |
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| 18:20:12 | * | linuxstb complains to Bagder that his build system didn't pick up the missing adx.c in the last commit :) |
| 18:22:13 | pondlife | Hmm, was that a test? |
| 18:22:27 | linuxstb | Was what a test? |
| 18:22:47 | pondlife | Missing adx.c to see if the build system would pick it up? ;) |
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| 18:23:46 | linuxstb | I don't know - RaeNye isn't around for us to ask... Guess I should email him - he probably won't notice otherwise... |
| 18:24:16 | pondlife | Oops, sorry - I thought it was your commit. |
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| 18:24:47 | linuxstb | Nope. I noticed adx.c was missing and was expecting the build system to give a nice high score... But it just gave green. |
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| 18:32:18 | preglow | eh |
| 18:32:18 | preglow | haha |
| 18:32:25 | preglow | nice |
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| 18:37:53 | webguest92 | hi, the latest Bleeding edge appears to have some files in Rock directory missing |
| 18:38:11 | webguest92 | h120 |
| 18:38:52 | linuxstb | Try the next one... |
| 18:39:05 | linuxstb | (it's building now) |
| 18:39:19 | webguest92 | ah, thank you |
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| 18:39:56 | amiconn | Bagder: The build system colouring doesn't pick up severe errors... |
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| 18:41:37 | vertic420 | is there a "calender"-function plugin or something close to that? |
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| 18:55:26 | webguest02 | stalled build |
| 18:55:43 | webguest02 | bagder ^ |
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| 19:05:28 | shriphani | guys has the ipod battery life improved ? |
| 19:07:00 | nls | not really |
| 19:07:12 | shriphani | aww |
| 19:07:18 | shriphani | i get just 8 s |
| 19:07:22 | shriphani | 8 hrs ^ |
| 19:07:35 | nls | on what kind of ipod |
| 19:08:02 | shriphani | 5g 60 gb |
| 19:08:12 | nls | 64 meg patch |
| 19:08:14 | nls | ? |
| 19:08:29 | shriphani | what patch ? |
| 19:08:56 | nls | to use all the ram |
| 19:08:59 | shriphani | is that for the ipod ? |
| 19:09:10 | shriphani | could you gimme the link please ? |
| 19:09:31 | nls | it's in the tracker somwhere |
| 19:09:59 | shriphani | hmm do i go and search at the website ? |
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| 19:10:57 | nls | click patches |
| 19:11:21 | helpjukebox20 | hi all: got a recorder 20 (not v2) with the annoying problem where the headphone jack has to be "just right" in order to get stereo sound...any idea on how to fix this? i have it disassembled now but not really sure what to look for |
| 19:11:53 | helpjukebox20 | obviously im looking at the headphone jack but what about other boards/weld points |
| 19:13:22 | shriphani | i dont see it there |
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| 19:14:42 | shriphani | theres only the ipod nano battery think there |
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| 19:16:38 | linuxstb_ | shriphani: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5472 |
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| 19:17:05 | senab | i think i've found a way of making ALL MP4's playable |
| 19:17:21 | senab | before only iTunes encodes could be played back reliably |
| 19:17:25 | shriphani | so i download that and put it in ? |
| 19:17:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:18:08 | senab | so far every Nero & FAAC MP4 now plays back |
| 19:18:42 | senab | after you put in thru MP4Box with the command line "mp4box -no-iod -no-sys" |
| 19:19:04 | shriphani | linuxstb, i see like a good 8 patches if i scroll down |
| 19:19:15 | shriphani | what do i download and where do i put it ? |
| 19:19:49 | nls | shriphani, use the latest one, apply it to a checkout of the source and compile. |
| 19:20:22 | nls | or get an unofficial build that already has it (idk wich ones though) |
| 19:20:43 | shriphani | compile using gcc ? |
| 19:20:52 | bluebrother | arm-elf-gcc :) |
| 19:21:04 | helpjukebox20 | anybody care to offer some advice/help? |
| 19:21:07 | shriphani | i suck bad at all this |
| 19:21:13 | nls | perhaps senab's build then? |
| 19:21:19 | shriphani | ok |
| 19:21:27 | shriphani | so i scroll down and get it ? |
| 19:21:38 | senab | what patch do you want? |
| 19:21:45 | nls | scroll down what? |
| 19:21:54 | nls | 64 meg |
| 19:21:57 | shriphani | the 64 meg |
| 19:22:01 | bluebrother | shriphani, see the forums on "inofficial builds" |
| 19:22:05 | shriphani | ok i downloaded it |
| 19:22:27 | senab | senab.co.uk/rockbox/">http://www.senab.co.uk/rockbox/ |
| 19:23:01 | senab | it contains a lot of other patches aswell, so have a look on the site |
| 19:23:36 | shriphani | ok thanks |
| 19:25:17 | senab | helpjukebox20: what advice do you need? |
| 19:25:40 | helpjukebox20 | got a recorder 20 (not v2) with the annoying problem where the headphone jack has to be "just right" in order to get stereo sound...any idea on how to fix this? i have it disassembled now but not really sure what to look for |
| 19:26:31 | shriphani | btw how much will my uptime shoot up by ? |
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| 19:27:03 | mirak | hi |
| 19:27:22 | nls | shriphani, depends a lot on how much you interrupt playback |
| 19:27:30 | shriphani | oh |
| 19:28:32 | shriphani | so senab i should delete the rockbox folder and unzip your's in ? |
| 19:29:00 | nls | the 64 meg patch uses the whole ram as a buffer so the disk doesn't need to spin as often but if you continually skip, load new playlists, and so on it will not have a big effect. |
| 19:29:21 | shriphani | oh' |
| 19:29:28 | senab | the 64mb patch will help, but not THAT much |
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| 19:29:44 | senab | @helpjukebox20: sorry, i've got no idea |
| 19:29:59 | senab | when that happened with my karma, i just replaced the headphone socket |
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| 19:30:22 | shriphani | so senab i should delete the rockbox folder and unzip your's in ? |
| 19:30:28 | shriphani | ahh |
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| 19:36:54 | shriphani | uh oh |
| 19:37:07 | shriphani | it says rockbox error -1 now |
| 19:38:16 | nls | did you extract the rockbox.ipod file to your ipod |
| 19:38:26 | shriphani | wait |
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| 19:39:12 | shriphani | ok its working now |
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| 19:39:53 | shriphani | i need fonts now |
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| 19:42:28 | shriphani | ok thats done it |
| 19:42:35 | shriphani | now for a good theme |
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| 19:44:41 | nls | Slasheri, here? |
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| 19:48:39 | Slasheri | nls: yep :) |
| 19:48:54 | nls | this was fixed? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5966 |
| 19:49:52 | Slasheri | nls: yes, at least one bug in the metadata parser causing that was fixed |
| 19:50:04 | Slasheri | i am not aware if there are other similar bugs as well |
| 19:50:11 | nls | should it be closed? |
| 19:50:17 | Slasheri | probably :) |
| 19:50:28 | nls | ok :) |
| 19:50:44 | Slasheri | would you like to close it? |
| 19:51:06 | nls | sure I love closing tasks ;-) |
| 19:51:10 | Slasheri | nice ;D |
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| 20:00:54 | amiconn | Bagder: ping... |
| 20:01:49 | Bagder | here, for a short while |
| 20:02:29 | nls | build hang |
| 20:03:05 | Bagder | fixing |
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| 20:05:57 | * | freqmod posts speex patch (soon) that compiles without warnings with GCC 4.0.3 on ipod |
| 20:06:06 | nls | nice |
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| 20:07:37 | freqmod | posted in tracker |
| 20:08:30 | * | jhMikeS is wondering why monitoring (DAC) would drop out on the tlv320 at 88.2 kHz but recording still works. |
| 20:09:57 | * | linuxstb notices a wavpack (lossless only) patch submitted to ffmpeg |
| 20:10:51 | * | amiconn notices jhMikeS around |
| 20:10:58 | jhMikeS | I wonder if I shouldn't at some point make sure files are created in CD frame sized chunks |
| 20:11:12 | * | jhMikeS has been very busy |
| 20:11:43 | preglow | freqmod: why did uwb mode get slower? |
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| 20:12:48 | jhMikeS | amiconn: did I miss something important over the last couple days? |
| 20:13:57 | linuxstb | It seems a recent commit broke S/PDIF recording at 48KHz... |
| 20:14:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: (1) Recording encoder patch broke s/pdif recording for anything but 44100Hz |
| 20:14:52 | jhMikeS | amiconn: which patch? |
| 20:14:57 | amiconn | (2) There might be a problem with the 'disk full' detection during recording |
| 20:15:14 | petur | see log of this morning (around 10:00) - I discussed a solution with Linus |
| 20:15:15 | freqmod | don't know |
| 20:15:36 | freqmod | updated to latest svn |
| 20:15:42 | petur | jhMikeS: the encoder framework broke it |
| 20:15:55 | * | petur runs off again - back in 15min |
| 20:15:57 | jhMikeS | huh...not like the encoders understand anything other than 44100 right now |
| 20:16:30 | linuxstb | The WAV codec should... |
| 20:16:31 | amiconn | (3) Now there is a 'recording screen' item in the radio context menu on hwcodec targets as well, which (a) shouldn't be there and (b) if called, freezes th eunit |
| 20:16:47 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: it doesn't atm |
| 20:17:12 | jhMikeS | Are these new problems because I haven't committed anything at all |
| 20:19:08 | petur | in pcm_record the WAV header used to be written with the correct sample-rate, the new code always assumes 44100 |
| 20:19:32 | petur | WAV would be a quick hack but mp3 and wv are not that easy |
| 20:19:58 | petur | possible solution is to do pre-recording only in the WAV buffer and only start the encoder at recording start |
| 20:20:31 | * | amiconn isn't sure whether problems (2) and (3) are caused by some encoding framework related change, or by Mmmm's recording screen actions |
| 20:20:50 | * | petur points to todays irc log, 10:00 |
| 20:21:00 | jhMikeS | petur: 10:00 log time? |
| 20:21:07 | * | petur really needs to run off now ;) |
| 20:21:08 | petur | yes |
| 20:21:08 | jhMikeS | the 24th? |
| 20:21:14 | petur | 25th |
| 20:21:21 | petur | *today* |
| 20:21:47 | petur | bbl |
| 20:21:52 | jhMikeS | petur: *today* is rather relative around here :) |
| 20:22:17 | amiconn | 'today' as seen by the website |
| 20:22:36 | jhMikeS | The sample rate problem will be solved for all format shortly...I've got some kinks to work out |
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| 20:22:51 | amiconn | petur: The problem with prerecording to the pcm buffer only is that the encoder needs to catch up when starting the actual recording |
| 20:23:20 | mirak | linuxstb: I am not sure I will pursue ffmpeg implementation. |
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| 20:23:26 | mirak | <mirak> The problem with libmpeg2 is that the macro blocks buffers are directly part of the destination image. So if we want to use small buffer some code need to be changed. |
| 20:23:45 | jhMikeS | I'm just mad that something seems wrong with monitoring 88.2kHz on the tlv320...unless I have a bum chip |
| 20:23:58 | linuxstb | mirak: Why are you not sure about ffmpeg? |
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| 20:24:20 | mirak | linuxstb: pfff, a bit to hard to do I guess |
| 20:25:02 | mirak | linuxstb: because I also need to integrate it to mpegplayer |
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| 20:26:30 | jhMikeS | Does changing the IIS config clock rate actually reclock the uda1380 to a new rate (ADC/DAC)? The tlv320 obeys it's own MCLK input always regardless of the BCLK frequency. |
| 20:27:10 | mirak | linuxstb: there are still many dependencies etcetera. It uses library for each specific aspects of mpeg and more generally signal treatment. Well even if I do some each day, it will take some long time ... |
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| 20:28:13 | linuxstb | Yes, that was my observation. Which is why I was surprised when you said the other day that you had done it... |
| 20:28:51 | linuxstb | But it seems you're making very good progress with libmpeg2 on Coldfire anyway. |
| 20:29:11 | mirak | linuxstb: well I lied ;). Well, it appeared less complex than the last time I tried, in december I guess, but I have less spare time now. |
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| 20:30:30 | mirak | I tried to incorporate directly to rockbox, but I think I should try to extract it and compile it just in C. I should do that first |
| 20:30:58 | * | jhMikeS only sees enter/leave messages for today around 10:00 |
| 20:31:10 | jhMikeS | quit/join whatever |
| 20:31:15 | mirak | linuxstb: I gained some more fps by skipping line with zeros coefs, using the same routine they use in the C code. |
| 20:32:10 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: From 09.49.48 onwards in this file: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt |
| 20:33:09 | mirak | I am not sure also what is the max translation possible for macroblocks vectors. |
| 20:33:21 | jhMikeS | linxstb: that...I'm wasn't looking at the *current* log *doh*!...I'm think "24th" :P |
| 20:33:34 | linuxstb | That's what "today" means :) |
| 20:34:23 | * | jhMikeS is laughing at his denseness :) |
| 20:35:00 | linuxstb | mirak: You could try finding a copy of iso 13181-2 - googling for "13818-2" will help... |
| 20:35:23 | linuxstb | Sorry, I mean ISO 13818-2 |
| 20:36:11 | freqmod | preglow:it seems like vq_arm4 is not included |
| 20:38:08 | mirak | linuxstb: thanks |
| 20:38:48 | mirak | linuxstb: do you know a bit mpeg 2 ? |
| 20:38:52 | jhMikeS | is this prerecording talk re: radio in particular? Prerecording should work in all formats.' |
| 20:39:34 | freqmod | now vq_arm requires that shortcuts is defined, but when you remove that requirement uwb works. (when shortcuts is defined the sound is awful) |
| 20:41:17 | jhMikeS | or just how to get spdif right? calling audio_init_recording options alone starts prerecording and the sample rate should be measure at that point. If you need a new sample rate all of a sudden just reinitialize recording if it changed |
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| 20:43:21 | mirak | The final stage of decoding is to add the prediction samples to the prediction error corrections from the inverse DCT unit and write the reconstructed samples into the frame store memory. |
| 20:43:59 | mirak | actually we need a buffer for this, before storing the frame |
| 20:44:19 | linuxstb | mirak: I'm familiar with the MPEG-2 system-layers (mainly transport streams, as used in DVB broadcasting), but nothing lower than that. |
| 20:44:41 | linuxstb | So I can't help you with your work. |
| 20:45:46 | mirak | 220*176=38720 maybe that would fit in iram for a plane buffer ... |
| 20:45:54 | jhMikeS | It would be fairly easy to add a message to have the encoder re init itself with new inputs and start over. |
| 20:46:14 | jhMikeS | To prevent a reload from disk of course... |
| 20:46:48 | mirak | seems there is a way to reduce a lot the 16k array for quantizer matrix, they told me on mplayer channel. it would cost a multiply in plus tough. |
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| 20:48:27 | barrywardell | is anyone working on moving the ipod into the target tree? |
| 20:48:42 | barrywardell | I couldn't find any bug reports on it. |
| 20:49:44 | nls | there's a patch for the 4g |
| 20:50:35 | barrywardell | ah yes, found it now |
| 20:50:46 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Apart from that patch, I don't think anyone has done any work on it. |
| 20:51:07 | barrywardell | i might give it a try. it's basically what I had to do when making the H10 port anyway |
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| 20:53:32 | jhMikeS | hmmm...am I on my own again? :) A lot of stuff will be easier as there's a way to give the encoder instructions when it picks up a chunk. |
| 20:53:58 | petur | jhMikeS: the problem is that the user may/will connect spdif while being in the recording screen, so the only valid point to measure samplerate is at recording start. |
| 20:54:40 | petur | which would remove pre-recording if you re-init at that point |
| 20:55:18 | petur | this all is just a problem with spdif of course |
| 20:56:29 | jhMikeS | petur: I don't think it's the *only* valid way...prerecorded data will be valid if spdif is already connected. |
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| 20:57:14 | petur | yes... there will only be data if spdif is connected (iiuc) |
| 20:57:26 | jhMikeS | If spdif switches all of a sudden that can be dealt with and a file split inserted. |
| 20:57:43 | petur | that's something else |
| 20:58:03 | petur | we're talking basic (pre-)recording here |
| 20:58:31 | jhMikeS | yes...I just want to get the basic thing working really well...the rest is relatively simple |
| 20:58:44 | petur | if you re-init the codec, all encoded data is dropped, right? |
| 20:59:13 | jhMikeS | petur: yes...but if you're not connected then no real data is lost anyway :\ |
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| 20:59:47 | petur | the problem starts when, during pre-recording, the user attaches and connects spdif |
| 20:59:50 | jhMikeS | I wish I had an H120 to see what it measures with no connection |
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| 21:00:06 | petur | I don't think there's a way to see if something is connected? |
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| 21:00:16 | petur | otherwise you could init on that event |
| 21:00:21 | jhMikeS | petur: what sr measurement do you get? |
| 21:00:27 | * | petur doesn't have an h1x0 either |
| 21:00:28 | jhMikeS | with no connection that is? |
| 21:00:58 | petur | I'm just bringing problems of fellow tapers up here ;) |
| 21:01:06 | jhMikeS | Will the DMA buffer even receive samples at all if the V bit is not set? |
| 21:01:24 | petur | preglow, amiconn? |
| 21:02:21 | jhMikeS | If DMA isn't receiving data, then the encoder will be idle anyway periodically check if at least one chunk encoder chunk's worth is ready. |
| 21:02:55 | jhMikeS | *one encoder chunk's worth :) |
| 21:02:56 | petur | yes, but the problem remains when to measure samplerate and init the codec |
| 21:03:27 | jhMikeS | petur: can do that anytime with a little mod |
| 21:03:53 | jhMikeS | can recheck when recording starts |
| 21:04:22 | petur | rechecking is an option, yes |
| 21:04:24 | * | jhMikeS is wondering why f wouldn't be zero with no connection |
| 21:06:10 | jhMikeS | If we could detect a valid connection then a little screen saying to connect a device would better which can be cancelled or goes away when you plug it. |
| 21:06:36 | petur | just an indication that no signal is detected would be ok |
| 21:07:26 | jhMikeS | petur: where to put that? What does the OF do? |
| 21:07:35 | jhMikeS | Can it tell? |
| 21:07:35 | petur | no idea |
| 21:07:49 | petur | but something on the status bar maybe? |
| 21:08:38 | jhMikeS | petur: man....that so cramped already! |
| 21:08:41 | * | petur repeats: no h1x0 |
| 21:09:06 | * | jhMikeS knows...:) |
| 21:09:18 | petur | maybe where the peakmeters are ;) |
| 21:09:29 | jhMikeS | Well...instead of showing sample rate...show "NC" or something |
| 21:09:37 | petur | also ok |
| 21:09:48 | petur | first you must be able to detect of course |
| 21:10:33 | jhMikeS | Where's amiconn go? He could check what the mcf5249 measures with no connection. *hello?* |
| 21:10:35 | Paul_The_Nerd | I'm sure it's possible to detect if there's a valid optical connection |
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| 21:10:52 | petur | well, first implement the measuring at record start and re-init encoder on different samplerate |
| 21:11:08 | bluebrother | jhMikeS, mcf5249 is h100, isn't it? |
| 21:11:20 | nls | it is |
| 21:11:29 | jhMikeS | all other mcf5250? |
| 21:11:35 | bluebrother | I can look the rate up in the debug menu if that helps. |
| 21:11:43 | jhMikeS | pretty much the same anyway |
| 21:11:44 | amiconn | No, only the X5 uses MCF5250 |
| 21:11:53 | * | bluebrother has an h120 but no spdif devices |
| 21:12:11 | jhMikeS | I'd like to know what it measures with nc |
| 21:12:53 | bluebrother | ok, it jumps between two values: 65951 and 88127 |
| 21:12:59 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I don't know if you've seen any of the proposed new menu layouts for www.rockbox.org, but would it be straightforward to change the menu html in the forums? |
| 21:13:30 | jhMikeS | bluebrother: hmmm.... |
| 21:13:30 | bluebrother | in the "measured freq" line |
| 21:13:46 | bluebrother | also, it shows Channel: 0 (Unspecified) |
| 21:14:03 | bluebrother | if that helps. |
| 21:14:27 | jhMikeS | bluebrother: that might |
| 21:14:28 | bluebrother | but after looking at the screen for some time I haven't seen any other than the mentioned two values. |
| 21:14:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: I didn't even know there was discussion regarding a new menu for Rockbox.org, but changing the forum to match a new site layout should be fairly straightforward now unless they do something crazy. |
| 21:14:53 | jhMikeS | I have to see where it gets the Channel: thing from. |
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| 21:15:21 | linuxstb | See here for example: http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html (there are a few other variations floating around) |
| 21:16:03 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: It's been discussed a little in IRC over the last couple of days. |
| 21:16:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Oh, that should be cake. At the moment the Forums use *mostly* copy and pasted code from Rockbox.org, including the table setup that the main site uses, so assuming that's all inside a table cell again, I should be able to just copy and paste what's there. |
| 21:16:15 | Paul_The_Nerd | Ah, yes, and I've not been around. Had a big weekend. |
| 21:16:24 | Paul_The_Nerd | And end of the week. And stuff. |
| 21:16:34 | bluebrother | jhMikeS, screendump of the spdif analyzer screen here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/dump_0001.bmp |
| 21:16:37 | crashd | should set it up for css tbh ;) |
| 21:16:46 | linuxstb | Paul_The_Nerd: I just wanted to check you had full access to all the html templates etc. |
| 21:17:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | linuxstb: Indeed I do. Updating the forums with changes at that scale should be pretty much trivial unless I do something stupid. |
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| 21:19:07 | bluebrother | bbl |
| 21:21:01 | jhMikeS | I'd like to see that on a functioning connection |
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| 21:24:06 | Davide-NYC | petur: Now that I understand how the recording directory menu works I have an objection to present. Do you think the "Current Directory" is useful? I find it really bad in that I will end up with files scattered all over. |
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| 21:24:44 | Davide-NYC | It would be better to just be able to change the recording directory and display the currently set directory on a line |
| 21:24:50 | petur | I don't know the history of that option - to be fair, I misunderstood it completely too ;) |
| 21:25:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Changing what directory you're currently in is probably a lot faster than typing in a folder. |
| 21:25:22 | petur | the problem is storing the path in the settings: soze limits |
| 21:25:23 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: I wish you could just browse for the directory. I'd like it the same as OF always. |
| 21:25:26 | Davide-NYC | From what I understand though, it changes all the time |
| 21:25:49 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Or type it in once and always use that folder |
| 21:25:53 | linuxstb | petur: That shouldn't be a problem if/when jdgordon's settings rework is committed. |
| 21:26:11 | petur | saving to cfg? |
| 21:26:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | It'd be nice if, when you clicked on "Current Directory" it saved that, and didn't dynamically update it to any new current directories. |
| 21:26:15 | Davide-NYC | I mean if your current directory was set because you just finished listening to an album, your board meeting audio is going to end up with your led zepellin |
| 21:26:20 | linuxstb | petur: Yes. |
| 21:26:20 | * | petur hasn't been following |
| 21:26:38 | petur | Davide-NYC: good choice ;) |
| 21:26:55 | Davide-NYC | yeah but bad situation! |
| 21:27:59 | Davide-NYC | check this out for a better implementation: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6064 |
| 21:28:20 | Davide-NYC | really really simple and not (what is in my opinion) totally crazy |
| 21:28:24 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 21:31:59 | Davide-NYC | petur: Can you fix this to at least be in line with the way you thought it was supposed to work? I.E. Current Directory sticks and does not follow your file browsing? |
| 21:33:03 | petur | well I don't know the history of that option and for storing the path I think it's better to wait until the new settings system is committed |
| 21:34:12 | Davide-NYC | right |
| 21:34:17 | petur | iriver 340 original firmware doesn't even give you any choice |
| 21:34:40 | linuxstb | BTW, how does the quality of iriver's mp3 encoder compare with Rockbox's? |
| 21:35:27 | petur | no idea, I barely used mp3 recording in OF and have not yet in rockbox |
| 21:35:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | I think theirs has been reported to be better than the MP3 encoder plugin in the past, but that was prior to some changes being made to it, though I don't know how much they improved it |
| 21:35:53 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or rather "we" improved it, they was a generic referring to whoever updated ours. |
| 21:36:07 | linuxstb | Yes, good things are always "we" :) |
| 21:36:50 | Davide-NYC | haha |
| 21:36:50 | petur | not "me" ? |
| 21:36:53 | petur | :p |
| 21:37:07 | Davide-NYC | bad thing are always "someone" |
| 21:37:18 | jhMikeS | did the radio keys on the x5 get fixed? they were all dead after the keymap update |
| 21:37:20 | petur | no "someone else" |
| 21:37:24 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 21:37:36 | scorche | if you look at the irc stats, forehead and himself get quite a bit of a beating |
| 21:37:44 | goffa_ | there's always "they" |
| 21:37:46 | goffa_ | :) |
| 21:38:04 | * | petur slaps scorche with something else ;) |
| 21:38:13 | * | jhMikeS 's favorite: "somone botched-up xxx" |
| 21:39:19 | Davide-NYC | so in the mean time if I want to modify the default recording directory, what files to I search through? |
| 21:39:22 | jhMikeS | What's a good price for a used H140? I think I need it for serious SPDIF development |
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| 21:39:29 | fireboxFU | hi |
| 21:39:37 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: they go for around 100 |
| 21:39:39 | Davide-NYC | Us |
| 21:39:40 | fireboxFU | i am up to setup rockbox on my ipod |
| 21:39:42 | fireboxFU | nano |
| 21:39:51 | Paul_The_Nerd | Davide-NYC: They tend to go for closer to $150-$200 don't they? |
| 21:39:53 | petur | Davide-NYC: apps/recorder/recording.c I think |
| 21:39:58 | goffa_ | jhMikeS: under $200 |
| 21:40:03 | goffa_ | like around $190 |
| 21:40:04 | fireboxFU | but i cannot find out which firmware and which generation i have... can u help me? |
| 21:40:07 | linuxstb | fireboxFU: Is it a new aluminium Nano, or the old plastic one? |
| 21:40:07 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Check ebay and two were doing about 149 or something |
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| 21:40:10 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: dont get the H140, get the H120, |
| 21:40:27 | fireboxFU | aluminium down and upside plastic |
| 21:40:27 | Moos | jhMikesS: x5 remote keymap had changed since RaeNye last commit |
| 21:40:48 | goffa_ | Davide-NYC: i heard you couldn't put a massive hd in the 120 |
| 21:41:00 | fireboxFU | linuxstb is the 2nd generation? |
| 21:41:04 | Davide-NYC | yeah, but 30GB if you do mostly recording is plenty |
| 21:41:16 | jhMikeS | The keymap for radio didn't work at all a few days ago |
| 21:41:18 | jhMikeS | on x5 |
| 21:41:32 | jhMikeS | will check it again soon |
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| 21:41:43 | goffa_ | true.. i guess i like the extra storage :) |
| 21:41:51 | linuxstb | fireboxFU: Does it look like this? http://images.apple.com/ipodnano/images/indexfallingnanos20060912.png |
| 21:42:01 | Moos | jhMikesS: mmm commited things IIRC |
| 21:42:14 | jhMikeS | So...H140 has crappy case but H120 better case/less storage? |
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| 21:42:52 | fireboxFU | linuxstb, no never seen those :) it is white and below metallic and upside white crystal |
| 21:43:20 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: that's why I should pick H120 over 140? ^^ |
| 21:43:25 | Moos | jhMikesS: did you notice than the audio mute isn't working yet for TLV, I thought you fixed this but not yet apparently |
| 21:43:28 | linuxstb | Then it sounds like the old (1st generation) Nano - so Rockbox should be fine. |
| 21:44:13 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: H120 is less money, smaller chassis (feels better in the hand) and otherwise identical to the H140 |
| 21:44:16 | fireboxFU | and how i find out which firmware i have? |
| 21:44:23 | fireboxFU | it is used i got it today |
| 21:44:30 | Moos | oops, red build for X5 :( |
| 21:45:00 | jhMikeS | Moos: I might have noticed it in passing but the vol should just be set to zero for mute and that's all. |
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| 21:45:58 | * | amiconn is back |
| 21:46:05 | petur | woohoo |
| 21:46:06 | jhMikeS | Moos: There's no real mute function on tlv. Is there a mute function now in RB? |
| 21:46:11 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What do you want to know about s/pdif reception? |
| 21:46:11 | jhMikeS | \o/ |
| 21:46:22 | Moos | jhMikesS: how? there is always audio vol even at 0 |
| 21:46:23 | jhMikeS | amiconn: how to detect it's presence |
| 21:46:33 | amiconn | Iirc the dma receives data, but if it's not valid, the data is dropped |
| 21:46:48 | jhMikeS | Moos: Seting volume to -73 should mute it. |
| 21:46:54 | amiconn | Currently we use the V (validity) flag to detect a proper signal, |
| 21:47:05 | amiconn | but not all sources set the V bit correctly |
| 21:47:23 | fireboxFU | i have a 1st gen ipod nano, but how do i know if i have firmware 1.2 or any other? |
| 21:47:23 | Moos | jhMikesS: let's test it... |
| 21:47:30 | amiconn | (e.g. the archos). I had it working without the V bit, with a really tiny change |
| 21:47:31 | jhMikeS | amiconn: so we need a better way than that...would DMA even pick up samples with NC? |
| 21:47:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | jhMikeS: Shouldn't -73 be -73, rather than "nothing"? |
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| 21:48:07 | jhMikeS | Moos: Why would the volume go silent when setting it to the min if it didn't work? |
| 21:48:24 | jhMikeS | Paul_The_Nerd: Anything less than the min is still muted |
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| 21:48:27 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: Does your iPod Nano have the Nike features? |
| 21:48:50 | TonyJolley | Hello all. I need permission to add a modified wps to the wps gallery wiki page |
| 21:48:57 | tucoz | linuxstb: check the link now |
| 21:49:05 | * | jhMikeS really hopes he can get 88.2 monitor working on tlv320 |
| 21:49:07 | Davide-NYC | petur: I did not find the lines of code defining the default recording directory. Anyone happen to know where they are? I want to change the default recording directory. |
| 21:49:07 | tucoz | maybe that is overkill |
| 21:49:09 | fireboxFU | please help me: i have a 1st gen ipod nano, but how do i know if i have firmware 1.2 or any other? |
| 21:49:22 | Moos | jhMikesS: sound never muted even at -73 |
| 21:49:33 | jhMikeS | amiconn: how is the actual internal sample rate of the uda1380 set? |
| 21:49:48 | amiconn | Umm, I dunno |
| 21:49:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: I already asked you a question about it. It would look better if you read responses to you, rather than simply repeating your question. |
| 21:49:59 | jhMikeS | Moos: I turn the volume to zero when listening to anything and it's silent. |
| 21:50:25 | amiconn | I can confirm that mute doesn't work on X5 |
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| 21:50:41 | pixelma | Mmmm: thanks for fixing the OndioFM radio screen :) but I think I still found a missing keymap: if you get the "Disk is full" splash you aren't able to "continue with pressing 'off' "... (nor pressing something else) |
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| 21:50:55 | Moos | depending on your headphone I assume, here I can listenning to music yet |
| 21:50:56 | scorche | tucoz_: not sure what others think of it, but i would rather have "home" gone considering you can just click on the banner right above it |
| 21:51:01 | Moos | yes amiconn |
| 21:51:03 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Why are you asking about the uda, btw? I thought you were interested in s/pdif behaviour? |
| 21:51:24 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Setting the IIS rate doesn't change the frequency that the tlv320 works at internally and I wonder if the same goes for uda. |
| 21:51:30 | jhMikeS | amiconn: all of the above :) |
| 21:51:37 | amiconn | ugh... |
| 21:51:49 | Moos | amiconn: have you got X5 now? |
| 21:51:55 | Mmmm | pixelma: you mean you get a freeze and can't do anything? |
| 21:52:00 | * | amiconn wonders whether he will ever be able to get back to his own coding :/ |
| 21:52:11 | amiconn | Moos: Yes, quite a while ago |
| 21:52:17 | jhMikeS | If I had a device myself (I'm thinking about buying one) I'd have my q's answered quickly as they are on x5 |
| 21:52:19 | Moos | wee !!! :) |
| 21:52:31 | fireboxFU | please help me: i have a 1st gen ipod nano, but how do i know if i have firmware 1.2 or any other? :((( |
| 21:52:39 | jhMikeS | The H120 uses uda and has SPDIF so that would square it all off |
| 21:52:43 | linuxstb | tucoz_: I think I prefered the previous one.. |
| 21:52:58 | pixelma | Mmmm: yes the splash appears and you can't get out - tried with a build of 21st September and there it works |
| 21:53:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: Why should we bother to help you if you ignore responses to you anyway? |
| 21:53:02 | * | Moos preferes his X5 than his h140 for his daily using |
| 21:53:10 | tucoz_ | scorche: yes I can remove that one |
| 21:53:15 | tucoz_ | linuxstb: me too |
| 21:53:39 | Mmmm | pixelma: ok...thanks for reporting, I'll take a look and see what I can do... |
| 21:53:47 | TonyJolley | Can anyone here give me "change" permission to the iAudio X5/iRiver H10 20 GB wps gallery? |
| 21:53:53 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I won't bug you then...go code...I'll dig into the uda datasheet and hope the samplrate setting works. :) |
| 21:53:56 | scorche | tucoz_: i still think a simple brake before each category would be simplest and best looking |
| 21:54:03 | linuxstb | TonyJolley: Yes, I'll do it.... |
| 21:54:08 | scorche | s/brake/break |
| 21:54:13 | fireboxFU | Paul_The_Nerd ? you responded? |
| 21:54:15 | fireboxFU | sorry |
| 21:54:18 | TonyJolley | Thanks |
| 21:54:19 | fireboxFU | lets see |
| 21:54:22 | scorche | fireboxFU: a couple of times... |
| 21:54:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I'm just looking at pcm_record.c and trying to remember the little bit I was into it back then... |
| 21:54:44 | fireboxFU | ok |
| 21:54:47 | linuxstb | TonyJolley: You should be OK now. |
| 21:54:49 | fireboxFU | whats a nike feature? |
| 21:55:32 | Moos | is the x5 build is really broken? or bug script? |
| 21:55:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: It's the feature that allows you to use it with the Nike accessory. I believe there's an option relating to it in the menus |
| 21:55:34 | jhMikeS | Even though audio_set_sample_rate sent data at 11/22/44 the tlv was always running at 44100 but now I fixed that :) |
| 21:55:41 | amiconn | Looks like the UDA is clock master... |
| 21:55:56 | jhMikeS | yes...they both are currently for recording |
| 21:56:09 | jhMikeS | tlv must remain that way |
| 21:56:57 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: Go into Settings->Main Menu and see if there is an option under that for Nike+iPod. It should be right after Extras and Clock |
| 21:57:19 | fireboxFU | ok wait |
| 21:57:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | I've always wondered why people say "wait" when you're typing to them. As if somehow the words will vanish if you're going too fast. :) |
| 21:58:08 | fireboxFU | lol |
| 21:58:15 | Mmmm | pixelma: ok, I see the problem...Give it a go in 10 minutes or so :) |
| 21:58:32 | pixelma | nice :) |
| 21:59:32 | amiconn | hrmph |
| 21:59:41 | jhMikeS | I haven't actally committed a change to pcm_playback.c yet though...maybe I should 'cause it works and doom sounds better too |
| 21:59:42 | tucoz_ | scorche, linuxstb: check now. I increased the top margin |
| 21:59:45 | fireboxFU | Paul_The_Nerd there is no option in main menu called "Nike+iPod" |
| 21:59:54 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/HardwareSchematics/audio.pdf doesn't show where SYSCLK is connected |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:07 | fireboxFU | Paul_The_Nerd there comes stopclock |
| 22:00:15 | scorche | tucoz_: a bit more imo |
| 22:00:20 | tucoz_ | oki |
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| 22:00:59 | tucoz_ | better? |
| 22:01:13 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: That's what's immediately after Clock? Then your version is older than 1.2 |
| 22:01:36 | fireboxFU | okay, thats good for rockbox not? then i can skip one step in the installation of bootloader |
| 22:01:57 | amiconn | jhMikeS: SYSCLK is used to clock the UDA in the iriver (but I'm not sure from which source). The ratio is fixed, SYSCLK == 256 * fs |
| 22:02:14 | scorche | tucoz_: good...only thing left to say is that "more..." looks odd |
| 22:02:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: It really doesn't matter for Rockbox. Yes, you skip that one part of that step, but all it affects is whether the retail firmware will work properly. Rockbox really doesn't care. |
| 22:02:29 | tucoz_ | scorche: I also tried to right align. That looked ...strange |
| 22:02:42 | scorche | i can imagine |
| 22:02:56 | scorche | try "...more" just for the heck of it |
| 22:03:07 | fireboxFU | okay, i spit on the retail firmware :) lol |
| 22:03:12 | amiconn | 256* 44100Hz == 11289600Hz - the base clock of the system... |
| 22:03:29 | fireboxFU | Paul_The_Nerd, tyvm and sorry if i spammed a little bit |
| 22:03:39 | tucoz_ | scorche: done |
| 22:04:22 | scorche | tucoz_: maybe change it to "index"? |
| 22:04:29 | linuxstb | "...more" is just weird... |
| 22:04:57 | tucoz_ | yes. index is probably better |
| 22:04:58 | pixelma | that was my attempt: http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.html |
| 22:04:59 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Hmm, from teh datasheet it looks like the ratio can be switched: 256/384/512/68 * fs |
| 22:05:01 | tucoz_ | maybe doc.index? |
| 22:05:12 | amiconn | But 384 and 768 won't give useful sample frequencies |
| 22:05:26 | scorche | tucoz_: i was thinking something like that, but that is too cryptic |
| 22:05:43 | amiconn | And forget about recording at 88.2kHz on iriver (analog) - the UDA ADC is specced for 8...55kHz |
| 22:05:46 | jhMikeS | amiconn: so you'll have 44100 and 22050 |
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| 22:06:09 | jhMikeS | I'll set the cap flags for each player accordingly |
| 22:06:34 | tucoz_ | scorche: index _looks_ better. but is it? |
| 22:06:40 | amiconn | If I knew where the SYSCLK signal comes from... |
| 22:07:05 | jhMikeS | amiconn: if it's anything like the x5 it's right from the xtal oscillator |
| 22:07:14 | amiconn | S/PDIF is good for all sample rates, 8 to 96kHz |
| 22:07:17 | jhMikeS | It's call MCLK on tlv |
| 22:07:25 | amiconn | I even tested that |
| 22:07:28 | scorche | tucoz_: up to others...that is what i came up with...much better than more |
| 22:07:30 | jhMikeS | amiconn: spdif will pick from master list |
| 22:07:34 | amiconn | Hmm, MCLK can be selected... |
| 22:07:56 | jhMikeS | MCLK...MCLK/2...that's how I get 22050 |
| 22:08:11 | tucoz_ | I think it is. If is after all a subcategory under documentation |
| 22:08:17 | Davide-NYC | question: what is a good #ifdef to specifiy just iriver H1x0 targets? |
| 22:08:21 | jhMikeS | Aready have x5 working for that...even 88.2 but no monitoring (goes dead) |
| 22:08:26 | scorche | and it is an index....wiki and manual links |
| 22:08:34 | tucoz_ | exactly |
| 22:08:56 | tucoz_ | the brave souls will click that link and be enlightend |
| 22:08:58 | * | jhMikeS wonder's what gives on the tlv with 88.2 *pounding fist* |
| 22:09:21 | scorche | or skip it and go stright to forums where we tell them to go there |
| 22:09:35 | tucoz_ | yeah, aka the shortcut |
| 22:09:53 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Hmm, MCLK1 and MCLK2 can be set to FXTAL, FXTAL/2, FXTAL/3 and FXTAL/4 |
| 22:10:17 | * | amiconn summons LinusN |
| 22:10:22 | tucoz_ | I like pixelma's suggestion as well |
| 22:10:31 | scorche | what was his? |
| 22:10:36 | tucoz_ | hers |
| 22:10:42 | tucoz_ | http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.html |
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| 22:11:07 | scorche | heh...we dont get many of those 'round here ;) |
| 22:11:15 | pixelma | heh :) |
| 22:11:54 | tucoz_ | but maybe it should be white in stead of black text? |
| 22:11:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | tucoz_: I'd change more to simply "Documentation Index" since that's what it is. |
| 22:12:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | But that'd be two lines. =/ |
| 22:12:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Hm |
| 22:12:12 | tucoz_ | But that is such a long word |
| 22:12:26 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: and it is already under the documentation category |
| 22:12:31 | Davide-NYC | that's nicew and clear |
| 22:12:35 | Davide-NYC | I like |
| 22:12:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: Does it even need to be there? |
| 22:12:56 | Paul_The_Nerd | If you click the Wiki link you see "Documentation Index" on the page it brings you to. |
| 22:13:18 | tucoz_ | I often click that link from the menu |
| 22:13:41 | Davide-NYC | Can I edit a feature request on the tracker? |
| 22:13:44 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: i guess it doesnt have to be, but it is a link that is used a lot..people will be confused and that is another click and hunting to introduce |
| 22:13:49 | Paul_The_Nerd | "online docs"? |
| 22:13:50 | Davide-NYC | I can;t figure out how to do this. |
| 22:14:03 | scorche | worse imo |
| 22:14:16 | * | jhMikeS is taking some notes |
| 22:14:21 | tucoz_ | It's hard to fit Documentation under Documentation |
| 22:14:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Just "index"? |
| 22:14:33 | linuxstb | Davide-NYC: What do you want to change? It probably needs more rights than you've got... |
| 22:14:42 | scorche | pixelma: mind getting rid of "home" on your version? |
| 22:14:47 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: that is what i suggested |
| 22:14:58 | amiconn | s/more.../Index/ |
| 22:15:02 | Davide-NYC | rather than adding more feature requests I want to change http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6064 |
| 22:15:18 | tucoz_ | amiconn: http://www.ii.uib.no/~martina/new_rockbox.html |
| 22:15:23 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: I think index works for me. |
| 22:15:30 | Davide-NYC | To be titled: User selectable (static) recoding directory. |
| 22:15:31 | tucoz_ | and anyone else |
| 22:15:38 | Davide-NYC | *recording |
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| 22:16:00 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: I assume by removing home you just mean the word, and not the link that includes the picture? |
| 22:16:04 | scorche | index seems to be the way to go indeed |
| 22:16:07 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: yes |
| 22:16:12 | scorche | redundant |
| 22:16:22 | Terinjokes | hey, i'm on the ipod nano and my bootloader keeps breaking, this is the second time this week |
| 22:16:27 | scorche | and most websites have the banner linking to home, so it isnt unintuitive |
| 22:16:36 | linuxstb | We need to be careful it's still accessible for screenreaders - i.e. have the proper alt/title text for the image. |
| 22:16:41 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Which MCLK does the X5 use? |
| 22:16:53 | jhMikeS | amiconn: MCLK? I don't see an MCLK on the uda diagram and there's only one for the tlv - XTI/MCLK |
| 22:17:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | Terinjokes: "breaking" doesn't give us much description on what's happening. |
| 22:17:15 | amiconn | The 5249 has 2 MCLK outputs, MCLK1 and MCLK2 |
| 22:17:22 | tucoz_ | linuxstb: looks like the alt for the image is Rockbox Logo |
| 22:17:40 | Paul_The_Nerd | That can be changed to "Rockbox.org homepage" or something. |
| 22:17:45 | amiconn | They are drawn as NC on the cpu schematics part, but it just means the schematics aren't complete... |
| 22:17:57 | Terinjokes | it boots and works, then later in the day, when i got to listen to music, i get a sad ipod |
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| 22:18:14 | * | amiconn summons LinusN again |
| 22:18:32 | * | petur tells amiconn that LinusN isn't here |
| 22:18:36 | scorche | well, i am off to play racquetball...if there is anything else, just reference my name and i will check back =) |
| 22:18:56 | pixelma | scorche: try again |
| 22:19:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | Terinjokes: And this is without doing anything with it? Do you hook it up to a computer during that time or anything? |
| 22:19:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: good question then...I imagine the oscillator is hook up to the MCLK(1 or 2) and MCLK together...playback wouldn't work without dropping duping samples then using the mcf as the master since the clocks aren't synchronous on the tlb |
| 22:19:34 | scorche | pixelma: images broken? |
| 22:19:44 | Terinjokes | nope |
| 22:19:46 | tucoz_ | pixelma:I think i like your version better. I give up :) |
| 22:19:47 | amiconn | MCLKn are outputs of the coldfire... |
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| 22:19:52 | linuxstb | Terinjokes: Sounds like a possible hardware fault. Have you tried restoring and just using the Apple firmware for a few days to see if you get a similar issue? You should test the Apple firmware by doing a reset (i.e. MENU+SELECT) quite often. |
| 22:20:07 | Paul_The_Nerd | pixelma: Is there any reason the words are mostly lowercase other than the fact that the original has them so? I at least think it might look better capitalized. |
| 22:20:21 | pixelma | scorche: not for me... |
| 22:20:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | pixelma: 'tis broken for me as well |
| 22:20:36 | Terinjokes | i reinstalled apple everything friday, and yesterday it broke again |
| 22:21:05 | scorche | Paul_The_Nerd: you could see it as a sentence too with the first word (category) capitalized and others not...valid way of organizing |
| 22:21:08 | jhMikeS | amiconn: ok...you said "outputs" not "inputs"...now I'm curious...maybe other rates are workable then instead of using the divider in the tlv |
| 22:21:10 | Terinjokes | but, i guess i can go a few days without rockbox (plus i get cover art....) |
| 22:21:18 | pixelma | Paul_The_Nerd: no - I just took linuxstb's proposal... |
| 22:21:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | scorche: That's a long sentence full of nouns. |
| 22:21:29 | scorche | hehe |
| 22:21:53 | tucoz_ | pixelma: your directory new_rockbox-Dateien/ is missing |
| 22:21:54 | * | jhMikeS goes to mcf datasheet |
| 22:21:57 | tucoz_ | or i can not access it |
| 22:22:01 | scorche | pixelma: i like yours a bit better as well |
| 22:22:06 | scorche | but i really need to get going... |
| 22:22:11 | amiconn | jhMikeS: MCLKn can be set to output FXTAL, FXTAL/2, FXTAL/3 and FXTAL/4 as I said earlier |
| 22:22:11 | tucoz_ | have fun |
| 22:22:21 | amiconn | The oscillator is part of the MCF |
| 22:22:30 | Paul_The_Nerd | The only reason I comment on capitalization is "Index", "CVS builds" and "IRC", ignoring Index since it was just added, those latter two seem out of place. |
| 22:22:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn: then what's the 11.2896 Mhz oscillator for then on the x5? |
| 22:23:03 | amiconn | ...and if the UDA/TLV is clocked from MCLK, it should be possible to record at 44100, 22050 and 11025 Hz |
| 22:23:16 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Ehum, for the coldfire? |
| 22:23:41 | tucoz_ | bye |
| 22:23:41 | jhMikeS | amiconn: for the audio only or the whole thing? |
| 22:23:42 | amiconn | Okay, that wasn't precise enough... |
| 22:23:44 | | Part tucoz_ |
| 22:23:47 | amiconn | For the whole thing |
| 22:24:16 | amiconn | The CPU clock is derived from the 11289600Hz base clock via the PLL |
| 22:24:25 | jhMikeS | amiconn: makes sense |
| 22:24:41 | * | amiconn fiddled quite a bit with the PLL |
| 22:25:17 | * | petur walks off for a while |
| 22:25:19 | jhMikeS | If I want to know which MCLK it uses I'll just fiddle with the one or the other till I get an effect |
| 22:25:28 | amiconn | Theoretically, we should be able to record at 14700Hz as well - doesn't sound like it would be useful though |
| 22:25:59 | amiconn | w8 |
| 22:26:14 | pixelma | Paul_The_Nerd: fixed |
| 22:26:15 | jhMikeS | amiconn: just thinking that myself :) |
| 22:26:49 | pixelma | Paul_The_Nerd: of course I could capitalise it, too |
| 22:26:52 | jhMikeS | can do 5512.5 as well ;P |
| 22:27:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | pixelma: It doesn't make a huge difference to me. I'm quite aware aesthetic tastes differ anyway. |
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| 22:28:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Yeah, and 7350 ;P |
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| 22:32:15 | pixelma | Paul_The_Nerd: tried it... |
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| 22:37:10 | Paul_The_Nerd | pixelma: I honestly don't know which I prefer now. Heh. |
| 22:37:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | Either way, though, yours looks rather nice. |
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| 22:38:47 | pixelma | hehe.. thanks |
| 22:40:02 | pixelma | Paul_The_Nerd: I wanted to send you a PM in the forums but it might be quicker here... |
| 22:40:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | Yes? |
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| 22:41:34 | Mmmm | Davide-NYC: Are you about? |
| 22:41:58 | Davide-NYC | I am |
| 22:42:00 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 22:42:12 | Davide-NYC | How can I help the effort |
| 22:42:21 | Mmmm | how are your icon making skills feeling at the moment? |
| 22:42:34 | Davide-NYC | um crap as usual |
| 22:42:41 | Davide-NYC | but I'm game |
| 22:42:43 | Davide-NYC | what do you need |
| 22:42:43 | Mmmm | nah..they're great |
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| 22:43:25 | Mmmm | well, amicon doesn't like the lowercase q, I don't like the uppercase Q so I thougt aybe we could try out some icons instead |
| 22:43:43 | Davide-NYC | for the archos targets/ |
| 22:43:51 | Mmmm | in fact Linus thought |
| 22:43:54 | Mmmm | yep.. |
| 22:44:13 | Davide-NYC | No prob, IIRC I already had something cookin |
| 22:44:23 | Mmmm | that's what I like to hear :D |
| 22:45:24 | Davide-NYC | where do you want my wretched attempts to be uploaded to? |
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| 22:55:17 | bluebrother | someone with a player around who can give a clue on FS #6060? |
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| 22:56:05 | bluebrother | to me it seems the pitch keys have been forgotten in the player keymap but I can't check ... |
| 22:56:25 | Bagder | Recorder, not player... |
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| 22:56:49 | fireboxFU | again em: a noob questioN: how can i turn off my ipod nano with rockbox? |
| 22:56:53 | bluebrother | ah, right. |
| 22:57:16 | Paul_The_Nerd | fireboxFU: Hold Play/Pause |
| 22:57:21 | Bagder | bluebrother: but I haven't run rockbox on my recorder for months so I'm not the one to tell |
| 22:57:48 | fireboxFU | Paul_The_Nerd, thanks so much |
| 22:57:52 | fireboxFU | runs very nice |
| 22:58:21 | Paul_The_Nerd | We're all fond of it. |
| 22:58:30 | bluebrother | hmm, seems like I was looking in the wrong keymap file. |
| 22:58:35 | fireboxFU | rockblox is the best :) haha and snake !!! |
| 22:58:46 | bluebrother | but then I don't understand why it doesn't work. |
| 22:59:34 | linuxstb | Bagder: Do you know if it's intentional that I can't move/delete attachments in the wiki? I tried to delete the ipod bootloaders and the other files from IpodInstallation, but get "access denied". |
| 22:59:49 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:03 | Bagder | Zagor and Linus have done most of the wiki fiddling |
| 23:00:45 | linuxstb | OK. I'll try to catch one of them. |
| 23:02:09 | MHen | Hi! Was it a deliberate decision to store the bookmark file for a directory outside that directory? I would like the bookmark file for /dir1/1.mp3 and /dir1/2.mp3 to reside in the directory /dir1/ (maybe called /dir1/.bmark). That makes copying things around much easier than having the file calles /dir1.bmark |
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| 23:04:05 | Nik1 | hi to everybody out there |
| 23:04:44 | bluebrother | MHen, create a playlist in the same directory and play that. Then bookmarks get stored along with the playlist (as <playlistname>.bmark) |
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| 23:05:03 | Nik1 | I've got a problem with the installation on a ipod nano |
| 23:05:08 | Nik1 | which is: |
| 23:05:28 | Nik1 | i'm running ubuntu linux and wan't to compile the firmware |
| 23:06:39 | Nik1 | but i get errors about almost every function in the ipod_fw.c file |
| 23:06:54 | bluebrother | Nik1, can you paste them into a bin? |
| 23:06:54 | Nik1 | I tried gcc 3.4 an gcc 4.0 |
| 23:06:55 | Nik1 | same result |
| 23:07:01 | linuxstb | Have you installed the "build-essentials" package? (I think that's the name) |
| 23:07:06 | Nik1 | yes |
| 23:07:18 | Nik1 | I usually compile my kernel and so |
| 23:07:48 | linuxstb | As bluebrother said, can you paste the errors to somewhere like http://pastebin.ca/ ? |
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| 23:09:20 | Nik1 | I'm pasting atm ;) |
| 23:09:28 | MHen | bluebrother: Yes, I could do that. But creating a playlist with just all songs in the same order is a bit of a weird workaround. I would like to change the default behaviour. But before I submit a bug, I wanted to know if someone needs this feature as it is at the moment. Maybe to do is the way it is was a deliberate decision. |
| 23:09:57 | Nik1 | http://pastebin.ca/182235 |
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| 23:10:14 | bluebrother | MHen, if you want to add this do it as a feature request ;-) |
| 23:10:15 | Nik1 | sorry it's german, as my os is |
| 23:11:00 | bluebrother | Nik1, what's the compiler call? |
| 23:11:11 | bluebrother | MHen, afaik you can't change that behaviour. |
| 23:11:39 | Nik1 | the command I issue? |
| 23:11:43 | linuxstb | MHen: Firstly, ".bmark" won't be visible unless users have enabled "show all files". The problem is then to choose a filename to use. |
| 23:11:43 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 23:11:47 | MHen | bluebrother: I meant "submit a patch", not "bug", sorry |
| 23:11:55 | bluebrother | np :) |
| 23:12:20 | bluebrother | but when moving / copying folders you can catch those bookmark files using wildcards easily. |
| 23:12:30 | Nik1 | gcc -o ipod_fw ipod_fw.c |
| 23:12:36 | Nik1 | did you mean that? |
| 23:12:48 | Nik1 | (I suppose not ...) |
| 23:13:14 | bluebrother | yes, I meant that. |
| 23:13:31 | bluebrother | gcc is complaining in the first line about ipod_fw not found. This shouldn't happen. |
| 23:13:39 | linuxstb | Nik1: Yes, I think he meant that. Are you sure you included the "-o" ? The first error message is "gcc: ipod_fw: No such file or directory" which would happen if you typed "gcc ipod_fw ipod_fw.c" |
| 23:14:04 | linuxstb | But the rest of the error messages mean that you don't have all the standard .h files. |
| 23:14:13 | bluebrother | you can even try simply "gcc ipod_fw.c" (the output will then get called "a.out") |
| 23:15:13 | MHen | linuxstb: Yes, I know. If I could choose, I'd prefer not showing bookmark files in the file browser, only having them accessible through the bookmarks menu. But I see that mixing playlist.bmark and directory/.bmark would make things inconsistent. |
| 23:15:49 | Nik1 | mmmh, I try this |
| 23:16:13 | bluebrother | but as linuxstb said, you are also missing some header files. |
| 23:16:22 | Nik1 | I now get basicly the same error |
| 23:16:44 | linuxstb | Do you have the file /usr/include/stdio.h ? |
| 23:16:52 | Nik1 | i'll check |
| 23:17:14 | Nik1 | nope |
| 23:17:47 | bluebrother | on my system that's part of glibc-headers (but I'm not on ubuntu, so I guess it's called different on your system) |
| 23:17:59 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:18:18 | linuxstb | It's libc6-dev in Debian - so maybe the same in Ubuntu. |
| 23:18:45 | Nik1 | mmmh, wait a second |
| 23:18:57 | MHen | bluebrother: copying /dir1/* and /dir1.bmark with regexp would of course be possible, but nothing can compare to drag&drop of a whole directory |
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| 23:19:51 | Nik1 | last week I didn't take so much care issuing a couple of commands (as root) and I fear I messed the /usr directory up "a bit" |
| 23:20:13 | Nik1 | break your linux (tm) |
| 23:20:14 | bluebrother | Nik1, you can compile with "LANG=C gcc -o ipod_fw ipod_fw.c", this will make messages appear in english |
| 23:20:30 | Nik1 | ok thanks |
| 23:21:08 | Nik1 | ok thanks for help guys |
| 23:21:47 | Nik1 | i copied the files of the "include" at the rigth directory and now it works again |
| 23:21:48 | Nik1 | !!! |
| 23:22:36 | Nik1 | have a nice evening/day/night wherever u are |
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| 23:38:30 | mirak_ | amiconn: hey, are you there ? |
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| 23:56:34 | amiconn | mirak: yes |
| 23:58:37 | mirak | I read in coldfire manual that there was a 2 cycle stall for move when you do stores. Do you know this ? |
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