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| 00:02:58 | tucoz | Just noticed that a lot of the .fmr files found on <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FmPresetsEurope">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/FmPresetsEuropea> have that unicode marker in the beginning. Will the fmr parser handle this? |
| 00:03:34 | tucoz | Sorry for not rtfc |
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| 00:04:36 | bluebrother | tucoz, from what I can see from the code no. |
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| 00:04:47 | pixelma | bluebrother: it does |
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| 00:05:08 | bluebrother | ok, then I missed something ;-) |
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| 00:05:15 | tucoz | It can handle them? |
| 00:05:45 | pixelma | I changed most of the files because I had some umlauts in my fmr |
| 00:05:58 | tucoz | ah. ok |
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| 00:06:09 | pixelma | and then rockbox could display them :) |
| 00:06:19 | tucoz | All good then |
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| 00:06:49 | tucoz | I wasn´t sure if it was you or Cassandra who fixed that section. |
| 00:07:32 | bluebrother | still, I can't find anything that skips a bom in the fmr files. |
| 00:08:18 | tucoz | bom was the name of that byte sequence |
| 00:09:20 | bluebrother | I'm trying in the sim ... |
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| 00:10:18 | pixelma | I don't now how but if you try the berlin.fmr - I could use the umlaut for the turkish radio station for example |
| 00:11:06 | pixelma | *know even |
| 00:11:16 | bluebrother | nope, doesn't work. |
| 00:11:30 | pixelma | it's utf-8 |
| 00:11:32 | bluebrother | the first line gets ignored. |
| 00:11:49 | bluebrother | pixelma, it works fine as long as the file is utf8 without a BOM. |
| 00:12:12 | tucoz | this means that there is a lot to do with the fmr files |
| 00:12:14 | tucoz | :) |
| 00:12:43 | tucoz | and that few people use them, as i have never heard anyone complain about this |
| 00:13:00 | pixelma | I still think it wworks with the downloaded files |
| 00:13:15 | pixelma | should try though too |
| 00:13:18 | tucoz | But in the berlin.fmr, Star Fm is probably skipped |
| 00:13:26 | tucoz | but the rest is working |
| 00:13:38 | tucoz | as the first frequency read is invalid |
| 00:13:51 | tucoz | because it includes the bom |
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| 00:16:30 | bluebrother | the fmr parser should skip a bom if present. |
| 00:17:04 | tucoz | that is probably the best solution |
| 00:18:21 | pixelma | did you use a downloaded file? |
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| 00:20:36 | vertic23 | has somebody got a X5V here? |
| 00:21:27 | bluebrother | I added a bom manually to a fmr file |
| 00:22:27 | vertic23 | I have some trouble with transfer speeds via USB ...is there something wrong? |
| 00:22:34 | vertic23 | 2-6 mb/s maximum |
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| 00:26:49 | markun | vertic23: what do you get with the original firmware then? |
| 00:27:42 | vertic23 | never tried |
| 00:27:57 | tucoz | hehe |
| 00:28:12 | vertic23 | but I guess not much faster |
| 00:28:17 | tucoz | how can you say you are having trouble then? |
| 00:28:29 | amiconn | The transfer speed on X5 (and all targets which have a dedicated USB-ATA bridge) cannot depend on the firmware used. |
| 00:28:38 | vertic23 | because I think that 6 mb/s is quite slow |
| 00:28:44 | amiconn | If USB works, the disk is completely out of CPU control |
| 00:29:05 | vertic23 | good to hear |
| 00:29:11 | vertic23 | what speeds do you get? |
| 00:29:57 | tucoz | I never measured. But maybe 6MB/s or so |
| 00:30:31 | vertic23 | and those HDDs are capable of which speeds? |
| 00:31:14 | tucoz | That is when transferring music to my iriver h120 |
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| 00:31:52 | tucoz | That was just an estimate. I think an album of 60-80MB would take around 5-8 seconds to transfer |
| 00:32:24 | tucoz | but I might be wrong |
| 00:32:51 | bluebrother | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6071">http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6071a> |
| 00:32:54 | * | tucoz considers his help to be quite bad at the moment |
| 00:33:02 | bluebrother | for the fmr issue. |
| 00:33:10 | pixelma | thanks :) |
| 00:33:44 | bluebrother | does somebody want to look into it? |
| 00:40:02 | bluebrother | I should really get some sleep now. Bye. |
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| 02:20:12 | webguest08 | hi i have a 60 gig ipod rockbox wont work anyone else able to do it succsessfully |
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| 02:22:34 | scorche | i was about to tell him that no one else has been able to do it successfully either...as someone once said...rockbox is a hoax =( |
| 02:24:14 | jhMikeS | br is a hoax? Why didn't anyone say so? |
| 02:24:20 | jhMikeS | *rb |
| 02:24:53 | jhMikeS | Oh "someone once said", but I was sleeping I guess ;) |
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| 02:42:38 | DrMoreau | lo |
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| 02:44:31 | * | jhMikeS thinks standing on two legs is hard |
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| 02:44:53 | ze | jhMikeS: especially if they're wiggling |
| 02:45:01 | ze | and trying to kick you off |
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| 02:45:42 | jhMikeS | :D |
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| 03:15:48 | FruitwOOt | Hi ! |
| 03:16:25 | FruitwOOt | is it possible to see the Generation of your ipod from dmesg output ? (Linux) for example I've got Rev: 1.62 ... |
| 03:16:39 | FruitwOOt | is that mean my ipod mini is first generation ? |
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| 03:19:06 | FruitwOOt | maybe it is the firmware version |
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| 03:27:02 | Joely | hey, does anyone have a...beat up iriver H10? i kinda need one to work on making a driver for collecting information and testing for a to-be coded filesharing program. of course, i'd be willing to pay for it...it's just i need one that's not as expensive. |
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| 03:49:03 | Drkepilogue | ay |
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| 03:49:19 | Drkepilogue | i got a big problem |
| 03:49:25 | Drkepilogue | i was trying to turn on myipod |
| 03:49:36 | Drkepilogue | and it gave me a sad face ipod icon thing |
| 03:49:43 | Drkepilogue | it turned itself off |
| 03:49:49 | Drkepilogue | and i decided to listen to the back |
| 03:49:55 | Drkepilogue | turns out the HD is clicking |
| 03:50:00 | Drkepilogue | does this mean the HD id dead? |
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| 03:58:04 | bgmrk | yo yo |
| 03:58:13 | bgmrk | i gots a question |
| 03:58:31 | bgmrk | how likley is it that rockbox will come on the latest 30 GB zen? |
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| 04:00:23 | Drkepilogue | not very likly |
| 04:00:27 | Drkepilogue | most people are happy with the GUI and stuff |
| 04:00:37 | Drkepilogue | and theres no dev thats willing to work on it |
| 04:00:40 | Drkepilogue | and crack it |
| 04:01:14 | bgmrk | ok |
| 04:01:19 | bgmrk | thanx |
| 04:02:04 | bgmrk | :p |
| 04:02:51 | Joely | wait wait.... |
| 04:02:56 | Joely | from wikipedia...: |
| 04:03:00 | Joely | Most work on the TMS320 processors is done using Texas Instruments proprietary toolchain. However, lately a department at the Chemnitz University of Technology has announced that they developed preliminary support for the TMS320C6x series in the GNU Compiler Collection. |
| 04:03:30 | Joely | so you might get it if you stick around and help |
| 04:03:31 | Joely | :) |
| 04:04:09 | Drkepilogue | true, |
| 04:04:12 | Drkepilogue | but you must remeber |
| 04:04:21 | Drkepilogue | people code RB as free will |
| 04:04:39 | Drkepilogue | so even if it si possible, are the dev willing to work on it? |
| 04:05:51 | Joely | if i trick my friend into letting me borrow his zen.....hehe |
| 04:06:09 | Drkepilogue | lolz |
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| 04:14:04 | midkay | Slasheri: wake up! |
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| 04:18:58 | pagefault | bestbuy sells like no rockbox compatible players |
| 04:19:04 | pagefault | it's so upsetting |
| 04:19:23 | pagefault | I have extended warraty on my iriver if it ever breaks I will be screwed |
| 04:19:34 | pagefault | I guess I will have to demand an ipod nano or something |
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| 04:44:49 | coolego1 | well, I got rockbox on my ipod 5G, but now I can't make it boot back to the original apple firmware by turning it off and holding menu while it boots... |
| 04:45:39 | coolego1 | oh, nevermind, 15th time's the charm I guess |
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| 04:48:38 | hippie23 | any1 around? |
| 04:50:04 | hippie23 | guess not |
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| 06:31:33 | webguest53 | with the new keymappings, does Rockboy work on Ondio now? |
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| 06:42:34 | newbyx86 | im gay |
| 06:42:50 | newbyx86 | err wow. |
| 06:42:53 | newbyx86 | Ok /amsg gets the entire tab list. |
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| 07:21:27 | soul | hi |
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| 07:36:54 | rock66m | good morning |
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| 07:39:33 | daurnimator | medium |
| 07:39:37 | daurnimator | afternoon |
| 07:41:18 | rock66m | 07:27 |
| 07:41:24 | rock66m | im sitting in school |
| 07:41:26 | rock66m | 0. hour |
| 07:41:48 | rock66m | and ive got a problem with my rockbox :( |
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| 07:44:56 | rock66m | my rockbox crashes when im running the tagcache initialization |
| 07:44:59 | rock66m | at about 80% |
| 07:45:08 | rock66m | with an error and a adress number |
| 07:45:12 | Slasheri | rock66m: that is probably caused by a bad file |
| 07:45:19 | soultwister | anyone know how to increase font size |
| 07:45:29 | Slasheri | you need to find that file and send it to us or debug with simulator |
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| 07:45:52 | rock66m | how can i find it? |
| 07:46:06 | rock66m | try&error? :/ |
| 07:46:07 | Slasheri | rock66m: you can remove half of the files to see if the problem is gone |
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| 07:46:20 | Slasheri | and then restore half of that to narrow down the problem set |
| 07:46:26 | Slasheri | or do you have an iriver? |
| 07:46:31 | Slasheri | with remote |
| 07:46:36 | soultwister | my fonts are super small |
| 07:46:44 | rock66m | iriver h320 |
| 07:46:54 | Slasheri | ok, so you don't have an lcd remote.. |
| 07:46:59 | rock66m | no :( |
| 07:46:59 | Slasheri | then there isn't much choice |
| 07:47:05 | rock66m | but i want one :) |
| 07:47:11 | Slasheri | :) |
| 07:47:20 | rock66m | can i get one somewhere |
| 07:47:28 | rock66m | seperately |
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| 07:47:33 | Slasheri | or there is.. i can provide you a logf enabled build |
| 07:47:46 | Slasheri | then start tagcache initialization and go to the logf debug menu |
| 07:48:07 | rock66m | i remember, he writes down the analyzed files right? |
| 07:48:10 | Slasheri | when it crashes, you can see how far it went, but remember that it's not realtime |
| 07:48:19 | soultwister | anyone here know how to make the fonts bigger |
| 07:48:20 | Slasheri | yep, it prints the file names |
| 07:48:43 | rock66m | u need a specific bigger font |
| 07:48:51 | rock66m | then u can select it from the menu |
| 07:49:13 | soultwister | where do i get these font and where do u put them |
| 07:49:31 | soultwister | fonts sorry |
| 07:49:32 | Slasheri | rock66m: compiling a build for you now.. should be ready soon |
| 07:49:42 | rock66m | well no |
| 07:49:43 | rock66m | stop |
| 07:49:53 | Slasheri | hmm :D |
| 07:49:58 | rock66m | im actually sitting in school and have no possibility to take it home |
| 07:49:58 | scorche | soultwister: on the daily builds link, there is the fonts package for download |
| 07:50:07 | rock66m | ill try to build it on my own @ home |
| 07:50:10 | soultwister | thanks |
| 07:50:23 | Slasheri | ah, ok |
| 07:50:28 | * | rock66m didnt find the fonts THAT fast.. :/ |
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| 07:51:09 | rock66m | i had another issue about rockbox on players with possible recording |
| 07:55:36 | soultwister | thanks scorche |
| 07:55:51 | soultwister | worked |
| 07:56:13 | scorche | of course it did =) |
| 07:56:48 | soultwister | now i have one more problem my display dosnt use the whole screen |
| 07:57:08 | scorche | what device do you have? |
| 07:57:17 | soultwister | 5g 60 gig |
| 07:57:21 | soultwister | ipod |
| 07:57:37 | scorche | does it never use the whole screen or just when playing something? |
| 07:58:21 | soultwister | so far just the menu i havnt had time to check out games |
| 07:58:44 | soultwister | ti just put it on 20 minuets ago |
| 07:58:55 | scorche | what exactly do you mean by "not using the entire screen" |
| 07:59:14 | soultwister | wait a sec |
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| 08:00:11 | soultwister | my bad its fine |
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| 08:00:33 | soultwister | where do i put the doom wad |
| 08:00:52 | scorche | look in the wiki for the page "PluginDoom" |
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| 08:02:22 | soultwister | my ipod went to sleep then the fonts where small agian dang |
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| 08:12:56 | theli_ua | Morning! :) |
| 08:13:33 | theli_ua | hm ... i wonder why i wanted to say "Good news everyone!" |
| 08:15:09 | markun | wel.. what's the news? |
| 08:16:05 | theli_ua | that exactly what makes me wonder.. i have no knews :) |
| 08:16:15 | theli_ua | s/knews/news |
| 08:16:49 | theli_ua | may be i just dreamed of watching futurama on my mini :) |
| 08:17:27 | markun | :) |
| 08:20:21 | crashd | in a rush, but has anyone reported any bugs with AAC playback over the alst few days? |
| 08:20:46 | scorche | crashd: i have not seen any |
| 08:21:06 | crashd | hmmm |
| 08:21:16 | crashd | ill have to file a few when i get back from work then |
| 08:21:55 | scorche | i am speaking of forums and irc though...not flyspray...simple search can take care of that =) |
| 08:22:13 | markun | I've seen a report in the forum |
| 08:23:09 | crashd | i've got a coupla aac files that are from the same podcast, the early few load and play ok, then they start to take ages to load |
| 08:23:14 | crashd | and the latest 2 just crash rockbox |
| 08:23:18 | crashd | and im not quite sure why |
| 08:23:36 | scorche | markun: which?...i cant remember one |
| 08:23:40 | markun | <a target="_blank" href="http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6623.msg52103#msg52103">http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6623.msg52103#msg52103a> |
| 08:25:02 | scorche | ah...i wrote that one off as something with fairplay, but now that i look over it again, it could be |
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| 08:59:32 | rock66m | wouldnt it be cool if i would be able to put in my headset for my mobile phone into my rockbox and rb would automatically mute the music and i could listen to my phone over the same headspeakers/earphones?! |
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| 09:00:08 | vertic23 | it would be... =) |
| 09:18:10 | theli_ua | anyone knows how can i do somthing like " mkdir $(some command)" in windows cmd? |
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| 09:26:56 | daurn|afk | ?? |
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| 09:57:25 | ivan` | theli_ua, use cygwin |
| 09:57:42 | theli_ua | ivan`, that's not for me... i don't use windows :) |
| 09:58:16 | theli_ua | it would be easier to use pwershell or cygwin ... anyway the problem is solved already there :) |
| 09:58:23 | ivan` | ah k |
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| 11:07:27 | pondlife | lostlogic: around? |
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| 11:26:57 | pondlife | Morning petur |
| 11:27:10 | petur | yo |
| 11:27:19 | pondlife | Did you try any more recording in the last 24 hours? |
| 11:27:23 | petur | nice fixing you've been dooing |
| 11:27:30 | petur | doing even |
| 11:27:37 | pondlife | If it is fixing, and not breaking |
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| 11:27:47 | petur | no, no recording yet |
| 11:28:08 | pondlife | Just wondered. I thought that you or jhMikeS would sound the alarm if I broke it. |
| 11:28:16 | petur | ;) |
| 11:28:26 | pondlife | So I'll continue onwards until I hear bells |
| 11:29:20 | petur | Have another show to record on monday, I'm sure I'll test before then :p |
| 11:29:32 | pondlife | Please do. And not at the show. |
| 11:30:18 | petur | maybe I get some time free tomorrow... life is way too busy here atm |
| 11:31:18 | * | petur rolls away again ;) |
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| 11:39:23 | Mmmm | Is storing a 260 char string in the config block a bit too big? |
| 11:39:32 | Mmmm | (for the recording path) |
| 11:39:33 | petur | I fear yes |
| 11:39:46 | Mmmm | yeah.... I thought as much |
| 11:39:54 | petur | wait until settings are stored in cfg files |
| 11:40:03 | Mmmm | ahh well....into the REP it goes.... |
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| 11:40:38 | petur | does it even work? don't know how much space is left in the config block |
| 11:40:40 | linuxstb_ | The config block is 512 bytes... |
| 11:40:42 | linuxstb_ | (in total) |
| 11:41:29 | Mmmm | ooh, so 260 is BIG... 1 byte per char right? |
| 11:41:59 | petur | hmmm isn't it unicode? |
| 11:42:01 | linuxstb_ | Depends how it's encoded. With utf8 I think it can be up to 3 or 4 bytes. |
| 11:42:26 | Mmmm | hmmm, I'm surprised it works then.. |
| 11:42:47 | linuxstb_ | But MAX_PATH still assumes 1 byte=1 char afaik. |
| 11:42:54 | Mmmm | right! |
| 11:43:03 | Mmmm | so it must be pushing it then... |
| 11:43:38 | * | Mmmm likes to live life on the edge :D |
| 11:44:00 | linuxstb_ | Don't even think about committing such a thing to CVS though... |
| 11:44:12 | petur | hahaha |
| 11:44:13 | Mmmm | Don't worry, I won't |
| 11:44:23 | * | linuxstb_ unloads his gun |
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| 11:48:40 | Mmmm | what's scary is that you could probably hit me with that gun..you're only a few miles away! :D |
| 11:49:02 | * | Mmmm had better be careful... |
| 11:53:01 | linuxstb_ | :) |
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| 12:28:18 | tucoz | Any objections to getting rid of the favourites plugin? |
| 12:28:50 | tucoz | I consider that plugin redundant and useless as we have such a good playlist system in core rockbox |
| 12:30:00 | bluebrother | tucoz, I suggested the same some days ago ;-) |
| 12:30:31 | tucoz | hehe, I think nls also suggested it a couple of days ago as well |
| 12:30:44 | tucoz | or maybe that was you |
| 12:30:51 | bluebrother | seems like someone just needs to do it ;-) |
| 12:30:56 | tucoz | probably |
| 12:31:27 | tucoz | I can do it, but wanted to get the blessing to do so first |
| 12:36:24 | markun | tucoz: yes, I would wait for one of the oldtimers :) |
| 12:37:05 | tucoz | maybe it's someones favorite plugin |
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| 12:37:53 | linuxstb_ | Does the "playlist catalog" feature replace it? |
| 12:38:00 | markun | I also would like to delete some fonts |
| 12:38:01 | * | linuxstb_ hasn't used either |
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| 12:38:31 | tucoz | the favorites plugin just lets you select the currently playing file and adds it to a favorite playlist |
| 12:39:15 | bluebrother | the playlist catalog does basically the same but also allows you to select folders and allows to pick a playlist to save to. |
| 12:41:07 | linuxstb_ | If a user who loves the favourites plugin complained about it being deleted, what would you say to him/her? |
| 12:41:20 | tucoz | use the playlist catalog |
| 12:41:40 | linuxstb_ | Is that as easy as the favourites plugin? |
| 12:41:47 | tucoz | probably not |
| 12:41:49 | * | linuxstb_ is playing devil's advocate |
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| 12:42:06 | * | tucoz feels more and more pushed into the corner |
| 12:42:17 | bluebrother | PC: go to the context menu, select "Playlist Catalog" |
| 12:42:33 | bluebrother | Favorites: go to the main menu, plugins, select "favorites" |
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| 12:42:57 | rocknoob | hey could sum1 help me? |
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| 12:43:14 | bluebrother | PC can do more than the favorites plugin and doesn't require to load something ;-) |
| 12:43:14 | rocknoob | does anyone know where i can download rockboy? |
| 12:43:26 | bluebrother | rocknoob, it's in the rockbox distribution. |
| 12:43:32 | tucoz | markun, do you know how fonts are other character systems. Is times for instance available in arabic? |
| 12:43:52 | bluebrother | tucoz, rasher has an overview on his page. |
| 12:44:04 | tucoz | yes, but this was just a general question |
| 12:44:15 | rocknoob | erm.. wheres rockbox distribution? |
| 12:44:20 | bluebrother | ok, then I missed the point ;-) |
| 12:44:28 | markun | tucoz: I think the times from MS has arabic |
| 12:44:29 | bluebrother | rocknoob, the rockbox.zip you downloaded. |
| 12:44:36 | tucoz | not rockbox specific. do they adopt the western fonts to arabic, chinese etc |
| 12:44:43 | markun | but I have no idea what it would look like |
| 12:45:03 | tucoz | me neither. i just know you have an interest in fonts :) |
| 12:45:25 | markun | making greek glyphs in the Chicago style was already quite difficult |
| 12:45:32 | linuxstb_ | tucoz: I've just tried the playlist catalog, and deleting the favorites plugin gets my vote.... |
| 12:45:38 | bluebrother | the "common" fonts should all be available as unicode and include that glyphs. |
| 12:45:49 | markun | I have also added arabic, but didn't commit it yet because the font becomes very big |
| 12:46:00 | tucoz | linuxstb_, Ok. cool. |
| 12:46:33 | linuxstb_ | i.e. You initially select "playlist catalog", "add to new playlist" and then create a new playlist called "Favorites". After that, you select "playlist catalog", "add to playlist" and then select "favorites" from the list of playlists. |
| 12:46:53 | tucoz | yes, the plugin must be quite old |
| 12:47:03 | markun | tucoz: <a target="_blank" href="http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/nimbus-arabic.png">http://130.89.160.166/rockbox/nimbus-arabic.pnga> |
| 12:47:05 | bluebrother | bbl |
| 12:47:40 | markun | There are some right-to-left bugs.. |
| 12:48:00 | tucoz | wow, that is in rockbox |
| 12:48:14 | tucoz | did you add those glyphs? |
| 12:48:20 | markun | yes |
| 12:48:30 | tucoz | cool |
| 12:48:36 | markun | If only we had some arabic users :) |
| 12:48:58 | markun | Well, we have saab, but I didn't see him for a while |
| 12:49:11 | tucoz | no-one on rashers list? |
| 12:49:18 | markun | And he needs Chinese support too, which I won't add :) |
| 12:49:26 | tucoz | but there might be some in the western countries |
| 12:49:54 | markun | There is someone who lives in the arab emirates, but he doesn't speak arabic :) |
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| 12:50:33 | markun | ah, 2 now even, and 1 in saudi arabia |
| 12:50:42 | rocknoob | where do i get rockboy, sum1 pla help me |
| 12:51:01 | markun | rocknoob: it should be included with rockbox |
| 12:51:04 | tucoz | so your work is not futile |
| 12:51:23 | tucoz | got to go. see you |
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| 12:51:33 | markun | but I see the plugins are still not in the daily builds.. |
| 12:51:40 | * | linuxstb_ wonders why the playlist catalog creates playlists in /Playlists and not /.rockbox/playlists... |
| 12:51:59 | markun | linuxstb_: do you know something about that? |
| 12:52:14 | pondlife | rocknoob: download a build from <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml">http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtmla> |
| 12:52:28 | pondlife | Down under "Bleeding edge builds" |
| 12:52:52 | rocknoob | ok thanks |
| 12:53:25 | pondlife | linuxstb_: That should be changed |
| 12:53:47 | rocknoob | i got i two last questions : does rockboy only play gameboy and gameboy colour games? and also where do i put those roms? |
| 12:53:52 | pondlife | Along with Doom requiring a /GAMES directory , if that hasn't already been done. |
| 12:54:58 | pondlife | Do you think committing <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5903">http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5903a> would be a good idea? Being devil's advocate...? |
| 12:56:02 | linuxstb_ | markun: Yes, daily builds for Coldfire targets are broken until the gcc version on www.rockbox.org is upgraded. CVS builds are fine. |
| 12:56:32 | rocknoob | where do i put the gameboy roms on my ipod? sumone please help |
| 12:56:38 | linuxstb_ | Anywhere you want to. |
| 12:57:14 | linuxstb_ | But to keep things tidy, you could create a folder called "games", and then inside there create a folder called "Rockboy", and put them there. But it's up to you. |
| 12:57:43 | rocknoob | ok then thanks |
| 12:59:03 | linuxstb_ | pondlife: I've just had a thought about that. How about having a ".rockbox/system/" and ".rockbox/user/" folders? Everything distributed in the official builds would go in .rockbox/system/ (which would be read-only), and all config-files and user added files such as ROMs would go under .rockbox/user/ |
| 12:59:18 | pondlife | Good idea. |
| 12:59:32 | pondlife | So playlists would be user data... |
| 12:59:53 | pondlife | Easy to back up your config and not risk overwriting it when you upgrade. |
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| 13:02:04 | linuxstb_ | The complication is that the "Browse XXX" options would need to show the contents of both the user and system folders... So a user would be able to put his/her own themes in .rockbox/user/ |
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| 13:03:07 | pondlife | Of course. But that's not a big job, especially if the Browse Themes/WPS/Configs all use the same code (bit of an assumption I know).. |
| 13:03:31 | linuxstb_ | It is a big job - the "browse" option just opens the standard file browser on a particular directory. |
| 13:04:20 | linuxstb_ | Well, not that big, but it means changing the "browse" option so the it doesn't use the file browser. |
| 13:04:30 | preglow | does rockbox even display the .rockbox directory with default settings? |
| 13:04:34 | pondlife | No |
| 13:04:41 | pondlife | Nor should it |
| 13:04:54 | preglow | well, then it makes sense not to save user stuff in it |
| 13:05:09 | pondlife | That's why the browse options are in the menus |
| 13:05:25 | linuxstb_ | We could just rename it to "Rockbox" - would solve the problems GUI unix users have... |
| 13:05:35 | linuxstb_ | (mainly thinking Mac OS X) |
| 13:05:52 | preglow | the .rockbox dir is fine for system stuff |
| 13:05:58 | preglow | but not for games, playlists, etc |
| 13:06:04 | preglow | those should be saved in other places, if you ask me |
| 13:06:29 | preglow | mainly because .rockbox will be hidden in all default setups, both for rockbox and oses |
| 13:06:32 | preglow | apart from windows, that is |
| 13:06:48 | pondlife | I don't much seeing /GAMES /RECORDINGS /PLAYLISTS etc. in my root... |
| 13:06:55 | pondlife | don't much like... |
| 13:06:55 | nuidelyn | does rb just use . to hide things, or does it check the H attribute too? |
| 13:07:08 | amiconn | preglow: .rockbox isn't hidden on windows |
| 13:07:23 | preglow | amiconn: that's why i said "apart from windows, that is" |
| 13:07:48 | * | amiconn didn't read the 2nd lin |
| 13:07:51 | amiconn | e |
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| 13:10:05 | aliask | nuidelyn: It checks the H attribute too. |
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| 13:16:31 | theli_ua | linuxstb_, have a minute? |
| 13:18:30 | theli_ua | hm .. strange .. i've implemented direct rendering into iPod's video framebuffer .... in sim it works some times slower ..... :( |
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| 13:18:53 | linuxstb_ | I wouldn't worry about the sim... What's it like on the target? |
| 13:19:48 | theli_ua | i wanted you to test |
| 13:19:49 | theli_ua | :) |
| 13:20:06 | linuxstb_ | Test what, and on what target? |
| 13:20:34 | theli_ua | zxbox on video |
| 13:20:56 | linuxstb_ | OK, let me see what CVS zxbox is giving me... |
| 13:21:00 | theli_ua | ok |
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| 13:23:46 | theli_ua | linuxstb_, <a target="_blank" href="http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rock">http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rocka> |
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| 13:24:07 | webguest25 | hi all |
| 13:24:40 | aliask | hiya |
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| 13:25:37 | webguest25 | I've seen that in rockbox source is included 'dumb library' for mod/s3m/xm files |
| 13:25:56 | webguest25 | but why is not compiled with it? |
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| 13:28:43 | webguest20 | markun: on Rusher's page there is a map for nimbus-19. Will this font be included into the official RB font pack? |
| 13:28:59 | linuxstb_ | webguest25: I'm guessing because there's no working plugin/codec which uses it. |
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| 13:30:29 | markun | webguest20: yes |
| 13:30:32 | webguest25 | linuxstb: therefore is just a cut&paste of dumb source without any work? |
| 13:31:02 | linuxstb | webguest25: I can't remember - maybe some work has been done. |
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| 13:32:09 | webguest25 | i've found another codec based on an old player |
| 13:32:25 | webguest25 | that works fine but is only for .mod files and <486KB |
| 13:33:07 | webguest25 | better than nothing however! |
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| 13:34:57 | webguest25 | linuxstb:thanks for the feedback |
| 13:35:01 | webguest20 | markun: fine! When? Because after experimenting with different fonts and themes I've created a very simple theme that only shows artist, sing title, and progress bar. And that theme would look nice with nimbus-19 |
| 13:35:01 | webguest25 | bye to all |
| 13:35:36 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Do you have a test .rock for me? With 0 frameskip and no sound, I'm getting about 52% in Chuckie Egg. |
| 13:35:53 | theli_ua | <a target="_blank" href="http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rock">http://theli.ho.com.ua/video/zxbox.rocka> |
| 13:36:00 | theli_ua | i've already posted :) |
| 13:36:20 | linuxstb | So you have... :) |
| 13:36:34 | markun | webguest20: when Alexander Levin is happy about the font I will commit it |
| 13:36:45 | markun | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5967">http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5967a> |
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| 13:37:16 | theli_ua | linuxstb, 52% with my rock? |
| 13:37:21 | linuxstb | With CVS |
| 13:37:26 | theli_ua | ah |
| 13:38:02 | theli_ua | linuxstb, so i wonder what are the results with mine :) |
| 13:38:34 | theli_ua | linuxstb, cause in sim that causes too significant decrease in speed |
| 13:38:42 | webguest20 | markun: who is Alexander Levin? And when will he be happy? And what should happen for him to be happy? |
| 13:39:02 | markun | check the link |
| 13:39:25 | webguest20 | markun: sorry, didn't notice the next post |
| 13:39:32 | markun | np |
| 13:39:45 | linuxstb | theli_ua: 74% with your new rock and frameskip=0. 100% with frameskip=1. |
| 13:40:02 | linuxstb | But the screen is corrupted when you exit the menu... |
| 13:40:12 | theli_ua | linuxstb, hm ... so on target it's faster .... |
| 13:40:24 | theli_ua | linuxstb, corrupted in what way? |
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| 13:40:47 | webguest20 | markun: well, he's not unhappy. He's uncertain (see his last question). What do you think about the font? If you're happy I think he'll also be happy :-) |
| 13:40:59 | webguest20 | markun: and then I'll also be happy |
| 13:41:01 | markun | :) |
| 13:41:02 | linuxstb | Parts of the screen itself are not updated (between the first and third lines of text at the top of the Chuckie Egg screen), plus the border isn't cleared to black. |
| 13:41:45 | theli_ua | linuxstb, .. ah i see .... maybe a solution will be to make a copy of framebuffer and restore it after menu exit ... |
| 13:41:59 | theli_ua | not very nice though :/ |
| 13:42:10 | linuxstb | Or keep the old "full-update" function? |
| 13:42:22 | linuxstb | (I've no idea how you've changed it...) |
| 13:43:19 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i removed it |
| 13:43:27 | webguest20 | markun: so will you add your opinion to the patch? |
| 13:43:52 | theli_ua | linuxstb, now screen gets rendered here <a target="_blank" href="http://rafb.net/paste/results/w0Qhcz45.html">http://rafb.net/paste/results/w0Qhcz45.htmla> |
| 13:44:40 | linuxstb | Could you call that function on every line? |
| 13:46:03 | theli_ua | yes, i think so |
| 13:46:21 | markun | webguest20: there is a ttf Chicago font. I should probably check how they do it first |
| 13:46:31 | theli_ua | btw, linuxstb, on that paste i posted is there anything that can be made better (in terms of speed) ? |
| 13:47:38 | webguest20 | markun: ok, then I'll patiently wait |
| 13:49:03 | linuxstb | theli_ua: The loops could be written in assembler - to make use of burst-mode memory reads/write. That would probably give a noticable speedup. |
| 13:49:40 | theli_ua | linuxstb, gcc chould unroll that loops |
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| 13:51:02 | linuxstb | You could look at the assembly (try arm-elf-objdump -D apps/plugins/zxbox/filename.o) to see what it's doing. |
| 13:51:23 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i wonder i that that macros with uint64 that make such big difference on sim ... |
| 13:51:27 | amiconn | theli_ua: I still wonder why you are using 64 bit integers |
| 13:51:31 | linuxstb | But I don't think gcc will optimise those kinds of functions as well as a human could do. |
| 13:51:36 | amiconn | I would expect using 32 bit ints to be faster |
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| 13:52:38 | theli_ua | amiconn, just because original rendering uses writing 4 bytes at one time |
| 13:52:54 | theli_ua | 4 pixels |
| 13:54:46 | * | amiconn doesn't see the connection |
| 13:54:58 | theli_ua | :) |
| 13:55:36 | amiconn | You need to process the input data anyway, correct? |
| 13:55:51 | theli_ua | it was easier for me not changing original spectemu here much |
| 13:56:13 | amiconn | ???? |
| 13:56:28 | amiconn | I am just talking about the function you pasted, nothing else |
| 13:57:30 | theli_ua | what variables exactly are you talking about? |
| 13:57:36 | theli_ua | all uint64s? |
| 13:58:33 | amiconn | yes |
| 13:58:56 | amiconn | I wouldn't use 64 bit ints on a 32bit platform unless it's absolutely necessary |
| 13:59:35 | amiconn | ...and I don't see the necessity here |
| 13:59:46 | theli_ua | amiconn, originall function used int32 for representing 4pixel block .. for first test i just wanted not change it much |
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| 14:00:18 | amiconn | Yes, the _source_ pixel block contains 4 pixels in 32 bits |
| 14:00:46 | amiconn | ...but that doesn't stop you from using 32bit ints to represent the converted pixels as well |
| 14:00:57 | amiconn | You just need to convert in 2 steps |
| 14:01:14 | theli_ua | ah .. i understand what you are talking about :) |
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| 14:09:02 | ttl_work | hi everybody |
| 14:09:51 | ttl_work | yesterday installed rockbox on my Iriver H320 and i must say it rocks ! |
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| 14:19:10 | ttl_work | is it possible to play video on my H320 ? |
| 14:20:26 | linuxstb | Yes. Either 1) Use the iriver firmware; or 2) Play with Rockbox's still in development mpegplayer plugin - <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayera> |
| 14:22:23 | lex | why is the mpegplayer plugin updated so seldom now :( |
| 14:22:41 | linuxstb | Because you're not working hard enough... |
| 14:22:56 | lex | and a good add would be that rockbox would show the tags on the playlist, so if i make a playlist of my ipod_control/music, then i would see the names of the songs |
| 14:23:02 | lex | they are KCXM and so on now :p |
| 14:23:11 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then save your files with proper filenames. |
| 14:23:29 | lex | i could use the same as the apple os uses, if it would show them |
| 14:23:33 | Paul_The_Nerd | It's not Rockbox's fault that you choose to use a system that mangles your data. |
| 14:23:44 | kclaf | hehe |
| 14:23:59 | kclaf | hello ppl |
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| 14:24:05 | Paul_The_Nerd | An m3u playlist is simply a list of filenames, so that's what Rockbox displays at the moment. |
| 14:24:20 | lex | hm |
| 14:24:41 | petur | while we're bashing apple, here's something to think about for all you ipod freaks: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/">http://www.greenpeace.org/apple/a> |
| 14:24:56 | linuxstb | Can't you just use tagcache to get a list of all tracks on your player? |
| 14:25:33 | hcs | lex: something you might find useful, just yesterday I wrote an iTunesDB to Tag Cache convertor |
| 14:25:47 | kclaf | convertor ? |
| 14:26:00 | hcs | converter |
| 14:26:02 | lex | :O |
| 14:26:03 | lex | wow |
| 14:26:07 | hcs | I can never spell that right |
| 14:26:10 | kclaf | well i mean, what does it do ? |
| 14:26:16 | kclaf | rename files or.. ? |
| 14:26:19 | preglow | petur: very surprising, that, very... |
| 14:26:52 | hcs | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ConvertiTunesDBtoTagCache">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ConvertiTunesDBtoTagCachea> |
| 14:27:19 | hcs | kclaf: it generates a Tag Cache database with the same data as is in the iTunesDB |
| 14:27:50 | kclaf | ah |
| 14:28:01 | kclaf | doesnt rockbox do that already ? |
| 14:28:12 | kclaf | when it scans hard drive for mp3 files |
| 14:28:23 | kclaf | it generates the tag cache database |
| 14:28:32 | hcs | a) I don't like the scanning b) my files aren't tagged well |
| 14:29:05 | kclaf | ok |
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| 14:35:45 | Kohlrabi | lex: just run a masstagger over your files |
| 14:36:01 | Kohlrabi | whcih renames files arcording to tags |
| 14:36:11 | lex | Kohlrabi: but my apple os won't like it |
| 14:36:20 | Kohlrabi | why not? :( |
| 14:36:24 | linuxstb | Then complain to Apple about it... |
| 14:36:31 | Ed__ | i have a script that does it the other way around |
| 14:36:34 | hcs | you could then use foo_pod to regenerate the iTunesDB |
| 14:36:34 | Ed__ | i organize the files by name |
| 14:36:40 | Ed__ | just mv/cp them aroun |
| 14:36:43 | Ed__ | *around |
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| 14:36:57 | Kohlrabi | You have a script that reads filenames and writes tags by filenames? |
| 14:37:10 | Ed__ | and then i just run tagmusic 'Some.*Regexp that [match]{es, them}' |
| 14:37:16 | Kohlrabi | :) |
| 14:37:24 | Kohlrabi | I just run foobar and have all-in-one :p |
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| 14:37:40 | Kohlrabi | + mediaplay for wavpack-in-matroska |
| 14:37:44 | Kohlrabi | player* |
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| 14:37:53 | Ed__ | some small scripts around rsync that sync it to my MP3 player, laptop, jukebox :) |
| 14:38:00 | Kohlrabi | ah |
| 14:38:06 | Kohlrabi | thats good :) |
| 14:38:10 | linuxstb | What advantage does wavpack-in-matroska give you compared to standard wavpack? |
| 14:38:13 | Kohlrabi | I tried the iRiver sync once |
| 14:38:16 | Kohlrabi | Was broken iirc :) |
| 14:38:25 | Ed__ | i just rsync to my h340 - works like a charm :) |
| 14:38:31 | Kohlrabi | linuxstb: I can put file sinto the matroska |
| 14:38:37 | Kohlrabi | files into* |
| 14:38:46 | mirak13 | I don't know any application that would think a library with a dap on UMS. |
| 14:38:46 | Kohlrabi | cd-ocovers, text, log, cues, iso |
| 14:38:50 | Kohlrabi | Whatever I like |
| 14:38:59 | Kohlrabi | And still have a single file with chapters |
| 14:39:12 | linuxstb | What's wrong with just using your normal filesystem and putting all the files in a directory? |
| 14:39:26 | Kohlrabi | And I can just extratct the cue and the stream and burn a 1:1 copy of the CD |
| 14:39:33 | Kohlrabi | I don't like that |
| 14:39:37 | mirak13 | ping |
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| 14:39:53 | Kohlrabi | one medium = 1 file |
| 14:39:55 | * | linuxstb will never understand why people make life complicated for themselves... |
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| 14:39:57 | Kohlrabi | I like that |
| 14:40:13 | Kohlrabi | it's not more complicated than having multiple files lying around |
| 14:40:16 | linuxstb | one medium = 1 folder |
| 14:40:20 | Kohlrabi | yep |
| 14:40:25 | Kohlrabi | I have that for my vorbis files |
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| 14:40:58 | Kohlrabi | matroska is a convenient way to have a 1:1 backup of your CDs |
| 14:41:06 | Kohlrabi | imho :) |
| 14:41:08 | linuxstb | It's just that you need special tools to put things in and take them out - if you just put them in a folder, you wouldn't need anything special. |
| 14:41:21 | mirak14 | linuxstb, I just drag and drop, however there are some situations where it's not practical, for exemple, my music is stored as Artist>Albums>Songs . So if I want just one album and keep the Artist>Albums>Songs also on the dap, then I must create manually the artist folder, before putting the album |
| 14:41:30 | Kohlrabi | ya |
| 14:41:42 | mirak14 | and for a song you must create two folders |
| 14:41:44 | Kohlrabi | I COULD write a noncompliant cuesheet and use multiple files |
| 14:42:00 | Kohlrabi | don't like that |
| 14:42:03 | Paul_The_Nerd | Or since the files are lossless, you could say "as long as my burner is any good I don't need a cuesheet" |
| 14:42:13 | Kohlrabi | hm? |
| 14:42:19 | Kohlrabi | That's not the point :) |
| 14:42:34 | Kohlrabi | Withoout cuehsheet I lose info about gaps |
| 14:42:54 | Kohlrabi | So it's the same music, but not the same CD |
| 14:43:00 | Kohlrabi | Just call me a fanatic ;) |
| 14:43:32 | Paul_The_Nerd | Do you actually have CDs that use nonstandard gaps other than 'gapless'? |
| 14:43:41 | Kohlrabi | hm? |
| 14:44:03 | Kohlrabi | If I take the multiple files |
| 14:44:06 | Kohlrabi | I have no gaps |
| 14:44:20 | Kohlrabi | If I burn them it's gapless (or 2 sec. gaps with nero) |
| 14:44:25 | Kohlrabi | whatever I like |
| 14:44:36 | Kohlrabi | with cuesheet it's defined how long they are |
| 14:44:54 | Kohlrabi | it's just for backup purposes |
| 14:44:58 | linuxstb | So there's a difference between gaps and silence at the start/end of the WAV files? |
| 14:45:30 | preglow | a cd gap doesn't have to be silence |
| 14:46:17 | hcs | "put away your girly magazines" |
| 14:46:38 | Kohlrabi | I actually have multifile backups of CDs |
| 14:46:45 | Kohlrabi | whcih are annoying |
| 14:47:03 | Kohlrabi | I have to convert every track according to cuesheet name |
| 14:47:05 | Kohlrabi | to wav |
| 14:47:10 | Kohlrabi | to burn it with EAC |
| 14:47:26 | Kohlrabi | it's much more convenient to have a range and cue |
| 14:47:37 | Kohlrabi | no hampering with names |
| 14:47:39 | linuxstb | preglow: So what is a "gap" if it's not silence? |
| 14:48:05 | preglow | linuxstb: in the cd world, it's just a gap between tracks that doesn't really belong to any of the tracks |
| 14:48:12 | preglow | called pregap, i believe |
| 14:49:16 | linuxstb | So it's "played" when transitioning between tracks, but not if you skip to the start of a track? |
| 14:49:20 | preglow | yup |
| 14:49:38 | preglow | and the track time of the track before it does not include the gap |
| 14:49:47 | Kohlrabi | normally it's used to hide tracks |
| 14:49:53 | Kohlrabi | hidden tracks :) |
| 14:49:55 | preglow | i can see my cd player actually counting backwards from the gap time to 00:00 when the gap is reached |
| 14:49:58 | linuxstb | So are they common? (apart from hidden tracks) |
| 14:50:01 | preglow | at 00:00 the next track starts |
| 14:50:04 | preglow | oh, very common |
| 14:50:21 | preglow | for hiding tracks, they're usually set as a pregap to the first track |
| 14:50:21 | Kohlrabi | whenever -xx:xx appears on your player |
| 14:50:29 | preglow | which many players don't support |
| 14:50:39 | linuxstb | So why don't audio formats have a "pre-gap" tag for players to use? |
| 14:50:47 | Paul_The_Nerd | And couldn't a ripper rather easily include the pregap either at the end, or the beginning of, a song file if you wanted a truly lossless copy that was still multiple files? |
| 14:50:49 | preglow | dunno |
| 14:51:05 | preglow | sure |
| 14:51:10 | preglow | the end of a track would be best |
| 14:51:16 | mirak14 | aren't the pregap extracted ? |
| 14:51:19 | hcs | Paul_The_Nerd: yeah, and I know at least EAC does, several ways |
| 14:51:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | hcs: My point just relates to Kohlrabi's whole using the desire to preserve the gaps as a reason he uses that awkward setup. |
| 14:51:56 | ttl_work | where can i download the plugins, i want to install the jpeg plugin |
| 14:52:03 | linuxstb | Are there postgaps as well, or just pregaps? |
| 14:52:30 | linuxstb | ttl_work: It's already installed - just click on a .jpg file in the file browser. |
| 14:52:45 | markun | Kohlrabi: will you add matroska support to rockbox? Or do you just use Ogg Vorbis on you player? |
| 14:53:02 | Kohlrabi | I use vorbis for portable :( |
| 14:53:05 | theli_ua | amiconn, you meant something like this? <a target="_blank" href="http://rafb.net/paste/results/i75MAw59.html">http://rafb.net/paste/results/i75MAw59.htmla> |
| 14:53:17 | theli_ua | linuxstb, can you test one more build for me? :) |
| 14:53:26 | Kohlrabi | Besides, I don't really have a clue how to write the code |
| 14:53:44 | Kohlrabi | markun: are you, too, interested in matroska-support? |
| 14:53:47 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Sure. Same URL? |
| 14:53:57 | markun | Kohlrabi: not really, just wondering |
| 14:53:58 | mirak14 | I tried to do an album in a matroska container once, the extension was .oga or something like, but it crashed all the players. I wanted to preserv the track structure of an disck |
| 14:54:01 | Kohlrabi | ah, OK :) |
| 14:54:08 | markun | I only use it for video |
| 14:54:12 | Kohlrabi | yep |
| 14:54:25 | ttl_work | linuxstb: i thought it was not because there are only 2 files in the /.rockbox/rocks directory |
| 14:54:32 | theli_ua | linuxstb, yes just updated ... this one uses int32 |
| 14:54:59 | linuxstb | ttl_work: Try downloading the latest "cvs build" for your player. There are problems with today's and yesterday's "daily builds". |
| 14:55:17 | markun | linuxstb: maybe that should be the topic |
| 14:55:28 | Kohlrabi | maybe I will use wavpack lossy for portable, if it saves battery and performs well on ABX |
| 14:55:31 | mirak14 | linuxstb, I couldn't find a way to make libmpeg2 use iram buffers for macroblock decoding |
| 14:55:34 | ttl_work | linuxstb: oh ok :) |
| 14:55:37 | linuxstb | markun: I don't have that power... |
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| 14:57:33 | theli_ua | linuxstb, that one should alsa redraw screen upon menu exit |
| 14:58:02 | theli_ua | *also |
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| 14:58:47 | linuxstb | theli_ua: It's about the same - 74%. But yes, the screen redraw is fine after using the menu. |
| 14:59:35 | theli_ua | linuxstb, strange ... sim is much faster when using int32 :(\ |
| 14:59:39 | preglow | someone implement an audio/video shared iram scheme! |
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| 15:03:18 | linuxstb | I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but I've been thinking a little about the idea of adding IRAM swapping in the kernel. i.e. multiple threads can claim the plugin IRAM, and the kernel will swap when necessary when taskswitching. But that would mean ensuring the switching doesn't happen too often... |
| 15:04:22 | petur | virtual iram? |
| 15:04:50 | petur | as long as we don't start using a pagefile and swap to disk ;) |
| 15:06:35 | preglow | linuxstb: a malloc() like iram allocating function for arrays that can be reused between calls to different components would be easy to implement and work good if used with care |
| 15:06:51 | preglow | stuff like the output buffer and internal buffers |
| 15:06:57 | amiconn | theli_ua: Yes, something like that. I _believe_ there's another possible optimisation, but I'm not sure. I'd have to check the arm assembly for both your version and my modification in order to see which one is better |
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| 15:12:53 | mirak14 | it's really very ressource consumming to have a memory management similar to malloc ? |
| 15:13:44 | preglow | it's unecessary |
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| 15:15:21 | theli_ua | amiconn, what is your modification? |
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| 15:15:49 | amiconn | theli_ua: Do the shift before the masking. Then you can use the same mask for all |
| 15:16:04 | amiconn | It probably doesn't matter on arm, but maybe it does on coldfire |
| 15:16:14 | mirak14 | preglow it wasn't my question |
| 15:16:22 | theli_ua | amiconn,i can't test this :) |
| 15:16:27 | amiconn | I.e. instead of (qbyte)(x) & (qbyte)0xff000000) >> 24 |
| 15:16:57 | amiconn | use ((qbyte)(x) >> 24) & 0xff |
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| 15:20:17 | theli_ua | this should speed this up? |
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| 15:21:26 | amiconn | It _might_ |
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| 15:23:29 | preglow | smaller constants are always good anyway |
| 15:23:36 | preglow | and common constants are always good for sure |
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| 15:27:57 | amiconn | preglow: Yes, but it might be that it has no effect on arm (though it shouldn't make it worse either) |
| 15:30:34 | theli_ua | so now i need put scaling into this and test it on h300 :/ |
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| 15:32:00 | preglow | amiconn: probably no effect on arm, no, but it will certainly not be any slower |
| 15:32:05 | preglow | and we've got more platforms than arm |
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| 15:32:50 | Kasper | crowded here :) |
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| 15:34:59 | Kasper | can i ask a minor question regarding rockbox? |
| 15:35:25 | midkay | of course. |
| 15:35:55 | Kasper | well, i am quite new to it (just installed rockbox) and there should be some plugins in rockbox |
| 15:36:05 | Kasper | by default in the folder 'rocks' |
| 15:36:10 | Kasper | but that folder is empty? |
| 15:36:16 | linuxstb | Try downloading the latest "cvs build" for your player. There are problems with today's and yesterday's "daily builds". |
| 15:36:53 | Kasper | I'll try, be right back with you |
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| 15:38:37 | RaeNye | aloha |
| 15:39:19 | RaeNye | I think there might be a bug with new playback/voice code regarding crossfade. |
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| 15:39:57 | RaeNye | Whenever I enable crossfade the DAP freezes (sim crashes as well, but only after skipping a song)... |
| 15:40:16 | RaeNye | [x5, current cvs, also a few days ago cvs] |
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| 15:42:41 | RaeNye | pondlife: any idea why that might happen? |
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| 15:48:15 | theli_ua | linuxstb, btw 74% without frameskip is way good ... because without frameskip it tries to render 50fps ( using frameskip 1 and getting 25 fps is enough i think) ... maybe sometime i won't need cpu boosted all the time ;) |
| 15:50:03 | Kasper | ok, cvs was too hard for me. Downloaded daily build of 24 sept and that one has plugins :) |
| 15:52:02 | tucoz | Kasper, just download it from here <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml.">http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml.a> It's equally simple as the dailies. |
| 15:52:23 | tucoz | On the bottom of the page is a similar table to that of the daily builds page |
| 15:53:53 | Kasper | bleeding edge builds you mean? |
| 15:54:16 | tucoz | yes |
| 15:54:52 | tucoz | The cvs builds were formerly know as bleeding edge. |
| 15:54:56 | Kasper | aah ok, i saw those but the line "They are updated on every source change" scared me |
| 15:55:18 | Kasper | i thought it might contain bugs |
| 15:55:28 | tucoz | You were right |
| 15:55:31 | tucoz | they can |
| 15:56:03 | tucoz | but don't be scared because of that. If the first line is green for your target, then it's usually ok |
| 15:56:13 | Kasper | nice :) |
| 15:56:14 | Kasper | it was ok |
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| 15:56:34 | Kasper | i noticed the difference in size for the daily builds though |
| 15:56:45 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Ah, in which case it will never manage more than about 74% anyway - 36.5fps is the maximum the Rockbox lcd driver can handle... See <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LcdFrameRate">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LcdFrameRatea> |
| 15:56:50 | tucoz | Kasper, much difference? |
| 15:57:12 | Kasper | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=iaudiox5">http://www.rockbox.org/dl.cgi?bin=iaudiox5a> |
| 15:57:21 | Kasper | including the plugins it is twice as big |
| 15:57:21 | theli_ua | linuxstb, oh ... so that 74% was limited by lcd speed? |
| 15:57:21 | markun | Kasper: yes, all the plugins are missing |
| 15:57:28 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Yes :) |
| 15:57:34 | theli_ua | gosh |
| 15:57:37 | theli_ua | cool |
| 15:57:39 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Which is why we saw no improvement. |
| 15:57:44 | Kasper | (by the way: how to exit the oscillator plugin?) :) |
| 15:57:53 | markun | Kasper: but they are included in the cvs builds |
| 15:58:05 | Kasper | didn't know |
| 15:58:19 | Kasper | i'll install the cvs version right now then :) |
| 15:58:23 | tucoz | Kasper, power |
| 15:58:39 | tucoz | <a target="_blank" href="http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-build.html">http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-build.htmla> |
| 15:58:45 | Kasper | thank you tucoz :) |
| 15:58:49 | tucoz | html manual for the x5 ^^ |
| 15:59:01 | tucoz | you can find a pdf as well: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml">http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtmla> |
| 15:59:19 | Kasper | i have the pdf |
| 15:59:42 | Kasper | but can't remember i read that you use the power button to exit the plugin |
| 15:59:43 | tucoz | ok. the content is the same for both |
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| 16:00:08 | mirak14 | what is the indicator to know that the frames are totally displayed ? |
| 16:01:06 | Kasper | any advice which plugin i absolutely should see? :D |
| 16:01:32 | tucoz | Kasper, mandelbrot? |
| 16:01:34 | tucoz | hehe |
| 16:01:40 | theli_ua | zxbox! :D |
| 16:01:48 | linuxstb | Sudoku, Pacbox and mpegplayer... |
| 16:02:10 | Kasper | I'll try :) |
| 16:02:15 | theli_ua | sudoku rocks |
| 16:02:29 | aliask | Solitaire and sudoku have saved me many a time. |
| 16:02:38 | tucoz | Kasper, there are screenshots for all (almost) plugins here: <a target="_blank" href="http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-940008.1">http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-940008.1a> |
| 16:02:39 | Kasper | that will be a nice plugin when i'm travelling by train :D |
| 16:02:56 | Kasper | or when i'm at school ;) |
| 16:03:07 | Kasper | bubbles ofcourse :) |
| 16:03:15 | Kasper | my favorite linux game (besides x-moto) |
| 16:03:24 | RaeNye | bye |
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| 16:07:00 | Kasper | when i try to load doom it says I05: at 31F0723E |
| 16:07:08 | Kasper | is that a memory error? |
| 16:08:25 | tucoz | Yes, but you need to install some wads before you run doom |
| 16:08:43 | Kasper | i did i think :) |
| 16:08:47 | tucoz | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDooma> |
| 16:08:57 | Kasper | in rootfolder i created: games/doom |
| 16:09:06 | theli_ua | linuxstb, if there is such boost on Video should i consider implementing dynamic cpu boosting? |
| 16:09:08 | Kasper | then rockdoom.wad or something |
| 16:09:39 | tucoz | did you install a game also? |
| 16:09:46 | tucoz | like freedoom |
| 16:10:08 | tucoz | or some doom wad you onw |
| 16:10:12 | tucoz | own |
| 16:10:16 | theli_ua | tucoz, should it say "missing game wad" or something if he didn't? |
| 16:10:20 | Kasper | i don't think so :) |
| 16:10:26 | Kasper | i'll try freedoom |
| 16:10:36 | Kasper | wow, i like the plasma plugin! |
| 16:11:06 | tucoz | theli_ua, it _should_ but i don't know if it does :) |
| 16:11:22 | Kasper | it doesn't :) |
| 16:11:32 | linuxstb | theli_ua: It could be worth testing without IRAM - so we don't have to stop music playback on ipods. |
| 16:11:41 | linuxstb | Unless you're using the audio buffer RAM? |
| 16:11:52 | theli_ua | linuxstb, how then i would output sounds? |
| 16:12:20 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i'm using but i can easily change that |
| 16:12:21 | linuxstb | You wouldn't... Unless someone adds a way to mix it with the main audio... |
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| 16:12:52 | linuxstb | Personally, I would prefer to listen to music than have the noises from the spectrum games... |
| 16:12:53 | Kasper | hmmm....i get the same error when trying to open pacbox :/ |
| 16:13:05 | theli_ua | linuxstb, i doubt zxbox would run nice simultaneously with playback |
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| 16:13:30 | linuxstb | It would do when we can use the second CPU.... |
| 16:13:45 | bluebrother | what's the state of the menu on the rockbox webpage? |
| 16:13:45 | linuxstb | Or it may even work now with an easy codec like FLAC... |
| 16:13:48 | theli_ua | linuxstb, btw what's the status of this? |
| 16:13:58 | theli_ua | of second cpu support |
| 16:14:12 | linuxstb | I never managed to get dan_a's patch working on the PP5020. |
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| 16:14:20 | tucoz | bluebrother, I think people are positive towards a change. lack of time is probably the state, don't you think? |
| 16:14:39 | bluebrother | possibly ;-) |
| 16:14:46 | theli_ua | linuxstb, but he is working on it? or anyone else? |
| 16:14:58 | tucoz | given that bagder just had an increase in family members |
| 16:15:01 | bluebrother | I was just reminded of this as I have the intention to have a support issue on the tracker again :( |
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| 16:15:11 | linuxstb | theli_ua: dan_a doesn't own a PP5020 device (he has a 3G ipod with PP5002), and I've given up for now... |
| 16:15:19 | theli_ua | :( |
| 16:15:38 | bluebrother | in a week I'll try to come around writing some more detailed introduction on how to report "bugs" |
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| 16:15:57 | theli_ua | linuxstb, and do ipl people make use of it? |
| 16:15:58 | linuxstb | tucoz, bluebrother: I think we should agree on one of the proposals, and then try and convince Bagder to make the change... (and Paul_The_Nerd to change the forums). |
| 16:16:16 | tucoz | linuxstb, I think pixelma's looks best |
| 16:16:24 | bluebrother | agreed. On which do we agree? ;-) |
| 16:16:27 | Kasper | nvm the error, i really should start reading things before trying them :) |
| 16:16:27 | linuxstb | tucoz: I would be happy with that as well. |
| 16:16:38 | bluebrother | I'm ok with that too. |
| 16:16:43 | * | Paul_The_Nerd agrees |
| 16:17:20 | linuxstb | theli_ua: Yes, some IPL applications use it. |
| 16:18:14 | tucoz | here is the link, in case it was forgotten <a target="_blank" href="http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.html">http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/HTML/new_rockbox.htmla> |
| 16:18:15 | linuxstb | theli_ua: The problem is that the "cop_main()" function (which should be the entry point for the COP) is never being called, and I can't work out why. |
| 16:18:52 | tucoz | bbl |
| 16:19:26 | Kasper | like the VU meter as well :) |
| 16:19:33 | amiconn | linuxstb: Do you have an updated bootloader installed? |
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| 16:26:40 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. I did some tests in the bootloader, and the COP was running there, but it didn't seem to be running (or at least running the code I expected it to be running) in Rockbox itself. |
| 16:27:55 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Regarding the 3g "playback pauses" bug report - the 3g is a lot slower than later ipods, and I don't think there's any circumstances where you can get realtime mp3 playback yet. Hence dan_a's work on the COP. |
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| 16:29:16 | bluebrother | ok. Maybe the FAQ should get extended? |
| 16:29:37 | linuxstb | Yes, there's not much info on the 3g port. But then again, we only have one developer and a handful of users... |
| 16:32:06 | theli_ua | what is the reason we have "daily builds" .. i can't see any ... why just leave only cvs builds? |
| 16:32:39 | Paul_The_Nerd | Daily Builds are stored as an archive |
| 16:32:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | They're convenient of a bug shows up in the most recent CVS build, or if a new feature causes major bugs for a week, or something similar |
| 16:33:08 | theli_ua | ah ... i see |
| 16:33:23 | theli_ua | maybe just remove links to them from the main site? |
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| 16:33:55 | Paul_The_Nerd | I personally think that there could just be a "Download" page, with links to the CVS builds, the Daily Fonts/Manual, and an Archives link on that page to the dailies. |
| 16:34:12 | tHEkIND[IriverH1 | hello |
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| 16:34:18 | Paul_The_Nerd | Then the BuildTable could be linked off of that page too. |
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| 16:34:51 | tHEkIND | re |
| 16:35:01 | Kasper | alright, gotta go |
| 16:35:05 | Kasper | seeya |
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| 16:35:20 | tHEkIND | I found some bugs on rockbox |
| 16:35:21 | Kasper | thanks for the help btw :) |
| 16:35:30 | theli_ua | or we just can rename "CVS builds" to "Latests buids" so that "cvs" won't scare people and we won't have such reports as <a target="_blank" href="http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6723.0">http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6723.0a> |
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| 16:36:34 | Paul_The_Nerd | theli_ua: That sort of thing needs to be known about though. Bugs in aspects that people don't use would still be bugs. |
| 16:36:38 | theli_ua | tHEkIND, have you checked bug tracker whether they are already known and if no why didn't you report them there? |
| 16:36:52 | tHEkIND | I already get one on the tracker |
| 16:36:58 | tHEkIND | This is WPS problems |
| 16:37:08 | bluebrother | tHEkIND, you're sure it is actually a bug? |
| 16:37:16 | theli_ua | Paul_The_Nerd, well ... i can't see any reason why people should prefer daily :) |
| 16:37:25 | tHEkIND | He, yes :D, they aren't critical |
| 16:37:55 | tHEkIND | I know you have a lot to do, i'm just asking |
| 16:38:05 | tHEkIND | if someone could fix quickly that: |
| 16:38:05 | tHEkIND | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6056">http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6056a> |
| 16:38:07 | bluebrother | we get quite some "bugs" on the tracker that aren't bugs at all these days which decreases the usability of flyspray |
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| 16:39:15 | tHEkIND | I'll check 2 other bugs on a official release to be sure and i'll post them, it's not a lot: %fn don't show the first letter |
| 16:39:31 | bluebrother | what does %fn do? |
| 16:39:34 | tHEkIND | Filename |
| 16:39:47 | tHEkIND | I use it on a wps when changing song |
| 16:39:56 | tHEkIND | And when ID3 tags are not preloaded |
| 16:40:01 | bluebrother | really? haven't noticed something like this ... |
| 16:40:19 | tHEkIND | Will try on an official release, but i got this problem |
| 16:40:54 | Paul_The_Nerd | tHEkIND: The preloaded images / text thing has been around and known about for a while. It's not likely to be fixed terribly soon, as it's not necessarily a priority compared to a lot of things |
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| 16:41:46 | tHEkIND | yeah that's why i was just asking, i want to create a wps with a lot of effect and this bug restricts me to do it, but i know you have a lot to do |
| 16:41:48 | tHEkIND | np |
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| 16:42:26 | tHEkIND | okay, the filename: It's only when you're fast changing the file |
| 16:42:35 | philipptr | does someonw know a better channel to ask questions about my broken ipod or should i just continue my thread in the forum (I thought it would be easier over irc) |
| 16:42:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | tHEkIND: You said you haven't tested that with an official build. |
| 16:43:01 | tHEkIND | The 1/2s when the ID3 tags aren't preloaded, if you show %fn |
| 16:43:06 | tHEkIND | Yeah i'll do it now |
| 16:43:26 | tHEkIND | but the other one with preloaded pictures tested on official :D |
| 16:43:37 | Paul_The_Nerd | tHEkIND: Yes, as I said, that one is well known. |
| 16:43:49 | philipptr | well, I will just ask and if nobody answers leave again :D |
| 16:43:54 | tHEkIND | The preloaded pictures? |
| 16:44:21 | tHEkIND | okay |
| 16:44:26 | tHEkIND | A while = months? |
| 16:44:27 | tHEkIND | ?? |
| 16:44:28 | tHEkIND | ^^ |
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| 16:44:52 | linuxstb | philipptr: I don't read the forums very much - what's the problem? |
| 16:45:16 | philipptr | I get the !folder icon when turning my ipod on, and couldnt read with it from windows (until today it somehow changed and i could save my mp3s) |
| 16:46:01 | Paul_The_Nerd | tHEkIND: Feel free to work on it yourself if you have the time, but it's really not a major concern to many people. |
| 16:46:06 | linuxstb | OK, I found your forum post. Yes, it looks like you've physically broken it... |
| 16:46:07 | philipptr | when i try to save the firmware that is on the ipod i get a read error, when writting it seams to work but doesnt change anything |
| 16:46:31 | Paul_The_Nerd | philipptr: I suggested to you in that thread, I believe, to back up your music and try restoring, but that the iPod is most likely physically broken. |
| 16:46:54 | tHEkIND | Paul: I never worked on this language so i'm useless to do that. I contribute creating WPS ^^ |
| 16:47:01 | philipptr | I just thought i could remove the rockbox usb mode before sending it to apple ;) |
| 16:47:17 | Paul_The_Nerd | Rockbox doesn't have a USB mode. |
| 16:47:22 | Paul_The_Nerd | And, restoring would do that. |
| 16:48:17 | philipptr | well restoring didnt change it, and Im pretty sure that since I installed rockbox i had 2 usb modes (the normal one and one that has smaller icons different loading grafics and different font) |
| 16:48:42 | Paul_The_Nerd | philipptr: Are you suggesting that I'm lying to you? |
| 16:48:45 | linuxstb | They're both Apple disk modes - the "emergency disk mode" and the "regular one" |
| 16:48:48 | philipptr | no |
| 16:48:52 | tHEkIND | ^^ |
| 16:48:54 | philipptr | its only what i see |
| 16:48:58 | Paul_The_Nerd | As linuxstb said, they're both Apple modes. |
| 16:49:02 | philipptr | ah very good thanks |
| 16:49:12 | philipptr | i thought it was from rockbox |
| 16:49:18 | philipptr | it looked so rockbox-ish |
| 16:49:20 | philipptr | ;) |
| 16:49:25 | Paul_The_Nerd | We actually say in many places in our documentation that Rockbox has no USB mode on iPod |
| 16:50:06 | linuxstb | If you follow Apple's instructions for forcing your ipod into disk mode (hold SELECT+PLAY whilst booting), you get to the emergency disk mode. That's what Rockbox reboots you into as well. |
| 16:50:11 | philipptr | so well i think the only thing i can do is sending it in right? (ipod is empty now, but i still get the folder icon) |
| 16:50:12 | Paul_The_Nerd | I never really thought it looked very Rockboxish, since it's just a black and white clone of the normal disk mode screen. |
| 16:50:42 | tHEkIND | where are sources of rockbox ??? |
| 16:50:53 | bluebrother | tHEkIND, see the website. |
| 16:50:59 | philipptr | ipod by default had a very simple theme with small font and black and white, thats why I associated it with rockbox ;) |
| 16:51:02 | Paul_The_Nerd | tHEkIND: On the same downloads pages as the software itself. |
| 16:51:08 | tHEkIND | okay |
| 16:51:41 | tHEkIND | okay found it |
| 16:54:15 | tHEkIND | is it c or c++ ? |
| 16:54:24 | bluebrother | c |
| 16:54:31 | tHEkIND | ok |
| 16:54:33 | bluebrother | see the docs folder |
| 16:54:51 | tHEkIND | thx |
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| 17:01:34 | philipptr | does someone know what actually causes the firmware to show the folder icon? or are there many things that lead to it? |
| 17:02:11 | tHEkIND | You can disable the folder's icon |
| 17:03:11 | philipptr | the one with the exclamation mark? if so: what happens instead? |
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| 17:21:56 | markun | jungti is becoming good friends with iriver. They keep giving him players to review: <a target="_blank" href="http://jungti1234.netcci.net/blog/index.php?pl=51">http://jungti1234.netcci.net/blog/index.php?pl=51a> |
| 17:23:54 | linuxstb | markun: They obviously don't read what he says about them in #rockbox then... |
| 17:29:10 | markun | :) |
| 17:29:29 | markun | linuxstb: I think he calmed down after he received the E10 for free :) |
| 17:30:06 | markun | but he's probably still a pain in the ass for the support helpdesk. Last time they told him to just install rockbox instead of complaining about missing features ;) |
| 17:30:15 | pondlife | lol |
| 17:31:50 | linuxstb | Did he ask them if that would void his warranty? |
| 17:31:58 | Kohlrabi | Wellm, if it hadn't been for rockbox I wouldn't have bought their hardware :) |
| 17:32:09 | pondlife | Me too |
| 17:32:27 | linuxstb | I think that goes for most people here. |
| 17:32:35 | Kohlrabi | still, I'd prefer the H120 over any iPod |
| 17:32:44 | Kohlrabi | Now taht iPod support is in :) |
| 17:32:59 | Kohlrabi | which boosted rockbox alot obviously (userbase-wise) |
| 17:34:31 | Kohlrabi | do the new iRivers play vorbis? |
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| 17:50:50 | markun | Kohlrabi: yes <a target="_blank" href="http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/clix-2GB.aspx">http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/clix/clix-2GB.aspxa> |
| 17:52:14 | Kohlrabi | ah k |
| 17:52:17 | Kohlrabi | thx |
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| 18:11:38 | soultwister | where do u put your mp3 |
| 18:13:33 | soultwister | anyone here |
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| 18:15:21 | soultwister | wow its dead in here |
| 18:15:30 | daurn|afk | yes |
| 18:15:34 | daurn|afk | yes it is |
| 18:15:54 | soultwister | where do u put your mp3 files |
| 18:16:39 | soultwister | on rockbox |
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| 18:17:08 | Siku | music\artist\ |
| 18:17:14 | markun | soultwister: you can put your music anywhere |
| 18:17:26 | soultwister | ah ok thanks |
| 18:17:55 | Siku | there's very nice manual available |
| 18:18:02 | Siku | you should take a look at it |
| 18:18:24 | soultwister | ya i went through it could not find what i was looking for |
| 18:18:50 | soultwister | im duel booting |
| 18:19:10 | soultwister | its sees my music on other firmware |
| 18:19:48 | soultwister | what sucks is that i havent found a way to play by gener |
| 18:19:56 | soultwister | gender |
| 18:20:08 | linuxstb | genre? |
| 18:20:17 | soultwister | ya thats it |
| 18:20:38 | linuxstb | Try "tagcache" - it's documented in the Rockbox manual. |
| 18:21:00 | soultwister | ok |
| 18:21:03 | soultwister | thanks |
| 18:21:17 | Siku | there's also a wiki article available |
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| 18:36:18 | Kohlrabi | .oO(I only want male artists in my playlist) :D |
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| 18:44:10 | lostlogic | I do not like the new scheduler. the music skips less perhaps, but everything else seems less responsive. |
| 18:44:42 | tHEkIND_ | which one? |
| 18:45:32 | lostlogic | the new thread scheduler that was committed a week or two or three ago |
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| 18:49:15 | preglow | lostlogic: i agree somewhat |
| 18:49:34 | preglow | the scheduler itself is nice, but i'm not convinced the priority handling is good |
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| 18:51:28 | lostlogic | preglow: ahhh, yeah, I didn't look at the code _at all_ only speaking about how the user experience feels. |
| 18:52:00 | Slasheri | hehe, i wouldn't wonder at all that lostlogic doesn't anything made by me ;) |
| 18:52:09 | Slasheri | +like |
| 18:53:02 | lostlogic | Slasheri: :-P we do seem to have diametrically opposed views on the creation of software |
| 18:53:06 | preglow | lostlogic: the scheduler itself minimises unnecessary task switches, but the priority handling really makes using an ipod a nightmare |
| 18:53:12 | Slasheri | but iriver works fine, so unless i got an ipod i can't do much for that |
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| 18:53:20 | Slasheri | lostlogic: i see |
| 18:53:48 | preglow | Slasheri: well, there's not much you can do but optimise, and that we can all do |
| 18:54:06 | preglow | the problem is in the use of priorities in the first place, audio is prioritised over ui, and that's that |
| 18:54:12 | preglow | and it has to happen a lot on ipod |
| 18:54:30 | preglow | and the use of the wheel makes it really noticable |
| 18:55:01 | soultwister | im so new at this i need some advice i did the tag cache thing now where do you go to view it by genre |
| 18:55:03 | lostlogic | exactly |
| 18:55:35 | lostlogic | I wanted to eat my fingers when I was trying to navigate to a new song pretty far down a list... but hte music never skipped |
| 18:56:10 | soultwister | im having trouble navigating to view my mp3 files to choice by genere or artist |
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| 18:56:30 | markun | soultwister: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache#Initialize_Now">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache#Initialize_Nowa> |
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| 18:57:40 | soultwister | ya i initialized now where do i go to see them |
| 18:57:47 | mirak | how can I say make to build all files .c ? |
| 18:58:48 | tHEkIND_ | -> I'm trying to fiw a little bug for me :D (cause nobody want to do it), and i'm wondering how i can compile .c, .h files to use it on the simulator??? |
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| 18:59:41 | mirak | there is a problem on scale organic and enhanced, it doesn't replace windows at the right place |
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| 19:00:47 | mirak | sorry, wrong channel |
| 19:01:33 | bluebrother | tHEkIND_, just use the configure script and run make |
| 19:01:43 | soultwister | i did it |
| 19:01:48 | bluebrother | also, see the SimpleGuideToCompiling wiki page |
| 19:02:01 | bluebrother | soultwister, change the file view to "ID3" |
| 19:02:13 | tHEkIND_ | okay |
| 19:02:18 | tHEkIND_ | bug |
| 19:02:19 | tHEkIND_ | but |
| 19:02:21 | tHEkIND_ | heuu |
| 19:02:26 | tHEkIND_ | I'll see the wiki |
| 19:03:23 | bluebrother | ? |
| 19:03:33 | soultwister | you guys i aprciate the manual but some of you had to struggle to figure out things cause this is all new to some of us who started and with your knowledge its easier learn from someone whos been there |
| 19:06:01 | soultwister | ya bluebrother i did that and it worked thanks |
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| 19:09:21 | bluebrother | soultwister, it's tedious explaining things again and again. Please have a look in the manual and wiki first. |
| 19:09:37 | markun | soultwister: perhaps you can help to improve the manual |
| 19:09:54 | bluebrother | if you don't understand it afterwards come back and ask for clarification −− this also helps us to find sections in the manual that need improvement. |
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| 19:10:22 | bluebrother | it's a bit tricky writing a manual for something you know already pretty good ;-) |
| 19:12:36 | tHEkIND_ | How long rockbox exists? |
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| 19:14:24 | tHEkIND | I've seen 2 pages on a magazine of "How to installe rockbox on your ipod" (french) |
| 19:15:08 | bluebrother | Rockbox has been in development since 2001 (says the manual) |
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| 19:15:25 | tHEkIND | And the site's design never changed ? :P |
| 19:15:31 | bluebrother | don't know. |
| 19:15:41 | tHEkIND | 2001 you made great job on only 5 years ^^ |
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| 19:30:37 | MHen | What happens with submitted patches? Do they have to stay a minimum time open for comments? Or do I have (after there was a positive feedback for my patch) to ask somewhere for it to be committed (e.g. here)? |
| 19:32:41 | bluebrother | MHen, they stay around until some dev looks at it. |
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| 19:34:12 | soultwister | how do you use patches |
| 19:34:24 | bluebrother | soultwister, what do you mean by "use"? |
| 19:34:38 | linuxstb_ | patches are changes to the Rockbox source code - so you apply a patch to a copy of the source code and then compile. |
| 19:34:45 | bluebrother | patches are differences to source files. You apply them to the source and recompile |
| 19:34:48 | soultwister | well they are for you rockbox right |
| 19:35:10 | soultwister | ah so i have to have linux to use them |
| 19:35:33 | bluebrother | no. You can compile rockbox using cygwin if you want to. |
| 19:36:08 | MHen | bluebrother: And it depends on the mood of the devs if and when they look at one? |
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| 19:36:52 | bluebrother | MHen, it depends on a couple of things. Like if the patch is considered useful and suits into rockbox. |
| 19:36:56 | soultwister | where can i get more plugins |
| 19:39:02 | mirak | linuxstb: $(SRC:%.c=$(OBJDIR)/%.o) you do that do compile a full directory, what does it do exactly ? |
| 19:39:24 | tucoz | soultwister, there might be some that you can compile in the tracker |
| 19:39:32 | crashd | hmm, im having some real troubles with various aac files on a cvs build from this morning |
| 19:39:49 | MHen | bb: I had a "I think we could commit it right away." comment on my patch two days ago and wondered what was happening to it. Then I saw patches that are more than three years old, with the author adapting it a year or so to the current CVS status and then simply giving up. |
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| 19:44:20 | bluebrother | that sometimes happens. At least it is useful keeping contact to the devs on irc |
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| 19:47:20 | MHen | Is there a day or time when it's most likely some devs (that have a spare minute or two) are around? |
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| 19:53:07 | bluebrother | no, but most devs are located in europe afaik |
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| 19:59:41 | soultwister | can u play videos |
| 19:59:50 | soultwister | mp4 |
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| 20:00:54 | MHen | bb: thanks |
| 20:01:02 | soultwister | 5g 60 gig |
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| 20:05:13 | freqmod | Rockbox only supports mpeg1&2 experimentally, if you want to play mp4 videoes you have to boot the apple firmware |
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| 20:06:47 | soultwister | how about fm radio do you getr that |
| 20:10:12 | lostlogic | Hmm, I think we might need to rethink our "throw away wheel events if the application isn't listening for them right now" policy on the ipod |
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| 20:10:31 | lostlogic | that might help the UI feel with the current scheduler and priorities |
| 20:11:24 | Slasheri | hmm, i "knew" something must be wrong with the wheel driver / ui |
| 20:11:28 | obo | didn't earhertz have a scrolling patch that helped? |
| 20:13:19 | mirak | does anyone know how to compile all object files from a source folder without writting each file ? |
| 20:13:30 | mirak | in the make |
| 20:14:31 | preglow | Slasheri: it's not wrong, it's just different |
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| 20:14:48 | preglow | before, the ui used to queue up a zillion wheel events if something was being done while you tried to use the wheel |
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| 20:15:10 | preglow | that's why i killed other queued wheel events if a new one arrived |
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| 20:18:14 | lostlogic | yeah, it's much better this way than the way it was |
| 20:18:24 | lostlogic | but... seems like it could be even better. |
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| 20:21:57 | lostlogic | it might feel intuitive to the user if we allow queueing of wheel events even when the UI is not listening if the user releases and resumes touching the wheel. |
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| 20:22:14 | Slasheri | hmm.. maybe the driver could queue events and when user stops moving the wheel, queue would be cleared |
| 20:23:02 | lostlogic | I can't remember if we have a 'wheel released' event |
| 20:24:24 | MHen | Is there are reason why the fading in/out is done in gui/gwps-common and not inside the mpeg thread? |
| 20:27:35 | lostlogic | hrm? |
| 20:27:43 | lostlogic | which fade? |
| 20:27:45 | linuxstb_ | The fade-on-stop. |
| 20:27:51 | lostlogic | ooh, the volume one |
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| 20:28:01 | lostlogic | beats me. |
| 20:28:02 | linuxstb_ | I noticed that the other day and thought it was an odd place for it... |
| 20:28:03 | deoa | hi |
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| 20:28:52 | bipak | i get an error while compiling cvs for the ihp120 :( |
| 20:29:09 | linuxstb_ | in tns.c ? |
| 20:29:14 | bipak | right |
| 20:29:28 | linuxstb_ | Upgrade your gcc to at least 3.4.5 (preferably 3.4.6) |
| 20:29:41 | linuxstb_ | (m68k-elf-gcc) |
| 20:29:52 | bipak | ah ok :) |
| 20:30:00 | bipak | 3.4.4 is on my system |
| 20:30:15 | bipak | thanks |
| 20:30:31 | mirak | SLIBAVUTIL= $(wildcard libavutil/*.c) I do that to get the .c file list in libavutil, seems it doesn't work in the make |
| 20:31:02 | senab | i'm a bit of a noob on linux, i'm just installing the cross compiler, at the bottom it says i've got to include something in my PATH |
| 20:31:06 | senab | how do i do this? |
| 20:31:39 | mirak | export PATH=$PATH:/local/mk68/bin |
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| 20:31:50 | mirak | and you put that in .bashrc |
| 20:31:56 | mirak | or .bash_profile |
| 20:32:05 | senab | either? |
| 20:32:23 | mirak | the adress should be something like /usr/local/m68k-elf/bin |
| 20:32:30 | mirak | depends the compiler |
| 20:33:19 | mirak | in .bashrc export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin |
| 20:33:46 | senab | thanks |
| 20:34:05 | senab | anywhere in the file? |
| 20:34:41 | mirak | put it at the end |
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| 20:36:21 | senab | works perfectly, thanks |
| 20:36:52 | senab | seems to be compiling much quicker on linux than cygwin |
| 20:37:08 | scorche | cygwin is slooooow =) |
| 20:38:10 | senab | i can tell now |
| 20:38:30 | senab | i suppose it's because its having to emulate the posix commands |
| 20:38:32 | scorche | which is why i gave up on it and use vmware for my windows box |
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| 20:38:44 | senab | i'm dual booting |
| 20:39:10 | senab | i'm starting a computer science degree at uni so it makes sense to get used to linux |
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| 20:39:28 | scorche | i usually dont want to boot into linux on my main box though (though it is a dual boot system)....if i am in linux, i go to one of my other comps =) |
| 20:39:37 | obo | senab: install ccache, it gets even faster then for rebuilds |
| 20:40:16 | senab | thanks obo |
| 20:40:53 | senab | is it reliable in detecting changes? |
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| 20:41:09 | obo | most, if not all the build servers use it... |
| 20:41:37 | senab | ahhh, i was wondering how my compile builds in 30seconds |
| 20:41:49 | senab | *how they compile.... |
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| 20:49:50 | daishiman | Hi all |
| 20:50:27 | daishiman | I need a player recommendation. Does anyone have experience with iPods and iAudio X5Ls? |
| 20:52:10 | senab | yep, i've got an ipod |
| 20:52:51 | senab | what do you want to know? |
| 20:52:56 | daishiman | I want to know how the Rockbox firmware stacks up against the default iPod firmware |
| 20:53:12 | scorche | the area in which it lacks, is battery life |
| 20:53:12 | senab | the bad thing with rockbox is the battery life |
| 20:53:14 | daishiman | on features and usability |
| 20:53:17 | scorche | winner! |
| 20:53:26 | daishiman | how bad is bad? |
| 20:53:28 | linuxstb_ | They are about as different as two firmwares can be... |
| 20:54:02 | senab | but the audiences of the firmwares are different |
| 20:54:11 | daishiman | are we talking under 5 hours? |
| 20:54:22 | daishiman | i know that they're extremely different |
| 20:54:28 | senab | no, for my 5g 30gb i get about 8hours |
| 20:54:53 | daishiman | that'd qualify as good enough for me |
| 20:55:12 | daishiman | how does it go on the aesthetics side? |
| 20:55:13 | senab | which will only improve as times goes on and optimizations are made |
| 20:55:20 | daishiman | considering good theming, of course |
| 20:55:26 | amiconn | scorche, senab: The cygwin slowness ist most likely caused by the windows filesystem layer. Microsoft SFU suffers from the same problem (although it's _a bit_ faster than cygwin) |
| 20:55:28 | mirak | test : |
| 20:55:28 | mirak | @echo $(wildcard ./libavcodec/*) |
| 20:55:40 | mirak | this line doesn't list the .c files, I do'nt know what to do |
| 20:55:47 | mirak | in a make file |
| 20:55:57 | senab | daishman: as in the physical looks? or the software? |
| 20:56:06 | amiconn | The presence of an on-access virus scanner doesn't make it better... |
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| 20:56:26 | daishiman | senab: i mean how the GUI handles, how the menus look |
| 20:56:27 | senab | amiconn: i don't use an antivirus |
| 20:56:43 | senab | in the original firmware or rockbox? |
| 20:57:01 | daishiman | rockbox |
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| 20:57:09 | daishiman | let me explain my original dilemma |
| 20:57:35 | senab | all rockbox displays are the same GUI, except some have bigger screens and display more colours |
| 20:57:45 | daishiman | i was previously looking at an iAudio X5L for the features and capabilities, especially the ability to record, the FM, and the support for Ogg and FLAC |
| 20:57:58 | daishiman | radio and recording i can live without |
| 20:58:24 | daishiman | however after the last iPod update, the 30 gig model was looking juicy, especially considering video playback and screen size |
| 20:58:33 | daishiman | however i'll be damned if i have to use iTunes |
| 20:58:39 | daishiman | i'm a linux user |
| 20:58:43 | hcs | gtkpod |
| 20:58:55 | senab | that doesn't support videoes does it? |
| 20:58:58 | daishiman | and even so, iTunes looks bloated and ugly |
| 20:59:04 | daishiman | the point was |
| 20:59:06 | hcs | er, no videos, right |
| 20:59:14 | daishiman | i was then looking at the rockbox features |
| 20:59:25 | daishiman | including gapless and format support |
| 20:59:53 | senab | the latest original ipod firmware supports gapless playback aswell |
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| 21:00:43 | linuxstb_ | Probably not with gtkpod though - IIUC, it using data in the itunesdb for gapless. |
| 21:00:56 | amiconn | Bagder: around? |
| 21:01:42 | senab | the video capabilites on the original firmware are pretty decent now |
| 21:02:08 | senab | it now supports 640x480 MPEG-4 SP, which looks good when connected to the tv |
| 21:04:19 | lex_ | senab: it supports a video with 2Mbps bitrate and more :p |
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| 21:04:26 | lex_ | so it's at least a dvd-quality |
| 21:04:42 | senab | sort of... |
| 21:04:50 | linuxstb_ | Not quite - DVD is 720x576... |
| 21:05:00 | lex_ | but it can play it too i guess |
| 21:05:22 | senab | the RCA tv out adaptor on the ipod only has 240 lines, so it's still a bit crap |
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| 21:05:43 | Paul_The_Nerd | I wouldn't use an iPod to watch videos on a TV anyway. |
| 21:05:46 | daishiman | sorry, got dced |
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| 21:06:34 | daishiman | so, what would you gain and lose from going to rockbox? |
| 21:07:20 | senab | on the ipod you'd lose proper video support. battery life |
| 21:07:46 | senab | but these will improve |
| 21:08:04 | daishiman | i know, I've seen the changelogs. my god do things speed up. |
| 21:08:21 | senab | you'd also lose the tv-out feature and accessory connections |
| 21:08:53 | daishiman | i wouldn't be using them anyway |
| 21:09:07 | senab | but for audio playback, then rockbox is king |
| 21:09:16 | daishiman | what would I lose on interface aesthetics? |
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| 21:09:43 | daishiman | the other thing I wanted to know was what was up with the dynamic playlist feature |
| 21:09:45 | senab | errr, the menu system is the most aesthetic looking |
| 21:10:03 | senab | *is not.... |
| 21:10:12 | daishiman | even themed? |
| 21:10:31 | senab | you can set the background and the font for the menu system |
| 21:10:51 | senab | but the WPS (playing screen) you can theme it much more |
| 21:11:21 | senab | have a look at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5ga> |
| 21:11:25 | senab | for some examples |
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| 21:12:04 | LennyK | Hey everyone... I can't seem to get A-B repeat to work and I've done it before. H140, trying play + right/left. Any ideas? |
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| 21:13:56 | daishiman | looks pretty nice |
| 21:14:09 | daishiman | wish there were some menu screenshots though |
| 21:14:15 | bluebrother | LennyK, you need to set repeat mode to a-b first. Have you done that? |
| 21:14:25 | daishiman | for the record, i don't really care much for aesthetics. i¿m just curious |
| 21:14:55 | LennyK | bluebrother, I sure have! |
| 21:14:56 | senab | daishiman: have a look at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/blackGlass_screenshot_backdrop.png">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/WpsIpod5g/blackGlass_screenshot_backdrop.pnga> |
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| 21:15:14 | senab | thats the menu system, you can change the font, and the background |
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| 21:15:57 | bluebrother | LennyK, works for me. Current cvs build. |
| 21:17:16 | daishiman | looks decent |
| 21:17:43 | daishiman | no issues there. |
| 21:17:55 | bluebrother | daishiman, there is a wiki page with some screenshots |
| 21:18:06 | bipak | linuxstb_: next problem... gcc 3.4.6 does not compile :( |
| 21:18:16 | bipak | configure: error: No support for this host/target combination. |
| 21:18:16 | bipak | make: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 |
| 21:18:22 | daishiman | I'm wondering whether i should buy the 30 gig iPod or the iAudio X5L. they're at the same price |
| 21:18:29 | bluebrother | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenShots">http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ScreenShotsa> |
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| 21:23:43 | linuxstb_ | bipak: What options did you pass to configure? |
| 21:24:51 | linuxstb_ | It should be something like ../gcc-3.4.6/configure −−target=m68k-elf −−enable-languages=c −−prefix=/usr/local/m68k-elf |
| 21:25:00 | bipak | −−target=m68k-elf and −−prefix=/usr/local, but i found that −−enable-languages=c should do the thing |
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| 21:25:05 | linuxstb_ | (use the same prefix as your existing install) |
| 21:25:12 | bipak | ah ok :) |
| 21:25:48 | linuxstb_ | So does that mean you can't compile g++ for m68k? |
| 21:26:42 | bipak | it worked now with "−−enable-languages=c" :) |
| 21:27:00 | bipak | g++ was build now |
| 21:28:27 | LennyK | bluebrother - I think I got it. When you put in a point, do you press play then quickly press left/right, or do you hold play when you're getting to the spot and then 5 secs later press left/right? |
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| 21:30:43 | bipak | rockbox built as well linuxstb_ :] thanks for helping |
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| 21:33:28 | bipak | yeah, its possible to record direct in mp3 now. i love rockbox :) |
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| 21:35:26 | bipak | what does "precrecord time" mean? |
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| 21:36:41 | LennyK | well anyway in terms of a-b repeat is seems that you cannot hardly any amount of time between when you press play and when you press left/right of the sync point doesn't register |
| 21:37:22 | LennyK | *cannot have hardly* |
| 21:37:31 | bluebrother | LennyK, I usually hold play, then left / right |
| 21:37:47 | bluebrother | but not as holding for several seconds |
| 21:37:59 | LennyK | I can't get the start point to sync unless it's almost simultaneous |
| 21:38:35 | bluebrother | sorry, no ideas anymore. |
| 21:38:51 | LennyK | thanks for helping. is there a way to clear the in/out points? |
| 21:38:57 | bluebrother | as I said, it works for me. But usually I don't use a-b. |
| 21:39:20 | bluebrother | none I know of (except switching to a different repeat mode) |
| 21:40:17 | LennyK | yeah I ususally stop and restart the file. i found something in the mail archive that said the original patch had play+stop to clear the points but I couldn't get it to work |
| 21:41:01 | LennyK | ok well that's enough to get me going. thanks |
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| 22:01:04 | bipak | lol rockbox has a pitch function now... you guys are crazy. some weeks ago i dreamed of a feature like that for DJing :) |
| 22:01:25 | preglow | we've had that feature for years |
| 22:01:52 | bipak | but not on ihp, right? |
| 22:02:18 | preglow | we've had it on ihp for a very good while |
| 22:02:26 | preglow | a year or so |
| 22:02:28 | bipak | oh.. lol |
| 22:02:52 | bluebrother | I can remember discovering that feature on h120 about a year ago ... so it's quite a while |
| 22:03:07 | bipak | ok then im blind |
| 22:03:07 | bipak | :) |
| 22:03:14 | preglow | it's probably longer than a year |
| 22:03:21 | preglow | i can't remember when i implemented it anymore |
| 22:03:30 | bipak | hehe :) |
| 22:04:10 | bluebrother | but the documentation became better the last year, so it isn't as hard to find as those times ;-) |
| 22:04:28 | bipak | but the record to mp3 feature was not implemented a long time ago, or didn't i see the feature too? |
| 22:04:38 | bluebrother | that's pretty new. |
| 22:04:43 | bipak | ok :> |
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| 22:05:09 | bluebrother | couple of weeks, but there was a patch flying around on FS for quite some time. |
| 22:05:37 | bipak | is there a documentation for rockbox->ihp, or only a doc for the whole rockbox firmware? |
| 22:05:59 | bluebrother | the manual is build for each target separately but from the same sources. |
| 22:06:07 | bipak | oh :D |
| 22:06:10 | bipak | nice |
| 22:06:11 | bluebrother | so there is a manual specific to the h100 series |
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| 22:06:55 | bluebrother | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml">http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtmla> in case you haven't found it already |
| 22:07:04 | lostlogic | in shocking news, I still think that having the track change GUI update on the wrong thread makes it look worse, not better. |
| 22:07:15 | lostlogic | but this may be another case of the ipod looking different than the HXXX |
| 22:07:17 | bipak | rockbox makes the ihp alot more precious :) |
| 22:07:42 | bipak | thanks bluebrother |
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| 22:08:45 | bluebrother | too bad the h100 and h300 series get more and more difficult to get hands on. |
| 22:09:26 | bipak | last week i recorded a dj-set of me with the original firmware. and after i checked what it has recorded i saw that it recorded only 100mb :\... commercial shit |
| 22:09:32 | webguest25 | With the new Rockboy keymappings, does that mean that it finally works on Ondio? |
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| 22:10:45 | bluebrother | OF is strange ... whenever I boot into the iriver fw it shows ~40MB free space while I have ~1.5GB |
| 22:11:00 | bipak | lol :) |
| 22:11:38 | bluebrother | once Rockbox wouldn't boot after that anymore because I made a short recording ... seems like it trashed my filesystem :( |
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| 22:12:16 | bipak | oh :( |
| 22:12:27 | obo | Can someone close <a target="_blank" href="https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4865">FS #4865a> please? |
| 22:12:38 | bluebrother | coding Rockbox is way more fun than using the OF :D |
| 22:12:49 | bipak | ive installed a new battery to my ihp yesterday. now it has 2,2Ah :D |
| 22:13:12 | bipak | hehe |
| 22:13:15 | bluebrother | obo, done. |
| 22:13:23 | obo | thanks bluebrother |
| 22:13:36 | bluebrother | bipak, I did this some time ago, but now the performance is equal to the original one :( |
| 22:13:50 | bluebrother | cheap ebay crap :( |
| 22:14:14 | bipak | hmm yes my one is also from ebay.. |
| 22:14:20 | bipak | the one for ipods |
| 22:14:33 | bipak | we'll see how long it works |
| 22:14:37 | bipak | hopefully it wont explode |
| 22:14:38 | bipak | :)) |
| 22:14:42 | bluebrother | hehe |
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| 22:15:08 | bluebrother | that exploding batteries got quite a few people nervous. |
| 22:16:19 | Rudy4Pez | Is #4899 in CVS yet? |
| 22:16:23 | bipak | oh yes... alan cox thinkpad exploded last week or so... |
| 22:16:47 | obo | Rudy4Pez: yes |
| 22:17:05 | Rudy4Pez | Is it only for Nano? |
| 22:17:18 | obo | nope - for all ipods |
| 22:17:24 | Rudy4Pez | Sweet. Thanks. |
| 22:18:09 | bipak | is there a page for more rockbox themes? |
| 22:19:00 | bluebrother | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox-themes.org">http://www.rockbox-themes.orga> and the wiki wps pages |
| 22:19:13 | bipak | :D |
| 22:19:41 | bluebrother | on the ltp mailing list some guy got quite nervous by the news of alan cox thinkpad :o |
| 22:21:03 | bipak | ltp? linux thinkpad? *g* |
| 22:21:08 | bluebrother | yeah |
| 22:21:11 | bipak | ah :) |
| 22:21:25 | bluebrother | I've linux running on a thinkpad ;-) Works like a charm |
| 22:21:30 | bipak | booooooom |
| 22:21:31 | bipak | ;) |
| 22:21:38 | bluebrother | nooo! |
| 22:21:39 | bluebrother | hehe |
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| 22:23:13 | bipak | you should take a backup ;) |
| 22:23:50 | bluebrother | by bying a backup thinkpad? |
| 22:23:59 | bipak | lol :) |
| 22:24:24 | bluebrother | as Thinkpads aren't Thinkpads anymore this is indeed an option. If only they were cheaper. |
| 22:24:33 | LennyK | hey bluebrother I figured out how to clear a-b points. hit play+navi (quickly). also check out this <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6078">http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6078a> |
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| 22:26:56 | bipak | uuuh i want a color display.. that themes are alot more interessting *g* |
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| 22:28:12 | bluebrother | LennyK, thanks for noting. Clearing the a-b points isn't documented at all ... |
| 22:29:45 | bipak | ok, im going to bed now.. cu later |
| 22:29:53 | bluebrother | bye |
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| 23:28:20 | amigan | Hrm. The recent commit that fixes the x5 remote hold switch and play button issue...does this affect the bootloader as well? |
| 23:28:42 | amigan | Because (as expected) it still boots even when the hold switch on the remote is down. But I'm using the dual boot with the OF. |
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| 23:30:11 | soultwister | is it possible for fm raDIO |
| 23:31:23 | midkay | is what possible for FM radio? |
| 23:34:08 | soultwister | rockbox |
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| 23:34:27 | midkay | is rockbox possible "for FM radio"? it doesn't make any sense. |
| 23:34:38 | soultwister | fm radio for rockbox |
| 23:34:41 | tucoz | soultwister, you might wanna tell us what your target is? |
| 23:34:42 | markun | soultwister: listen to radio? |
| 23:34:45 | midkay | it has an FM Radio feature if your player supports radio.. |
| 23:35:03 | soultwister | bummer mine dosent |
| 23:35:04 | tucoz | s/target/player |
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| 23:35:12 | tucoz | ipod? |
| 23:35:27 | midkay | soultwister: well, we can't just magically make your player tune into some radio stations :) |
| 23:35:40 | Soap | speak for yourself |
| 23:36:08 | midkay | what, me? |
| 23:36:10 | soultwister | i know it would be cool if u could |
| 23:36:41 | Soap | yes you midkay. |
| 23:36:46 | soultwister | and how they took out rockboy out |
| 23:36:51 | midkay | Soap: what's that supposed to mean? |
| 23:37:00 | Soap | It means I'm magic. |
| 23:37:07 | soultwister | why did they take out rockboy |
| 23:37:12 | tucoz | soultwister, if the tuner hardware is missing, then it's impossible without some sorts of external tuner |
| 23:37:15 | midkay | nobody took out rockboy, why do you ask? |
| 23:37:32 | soultwister | well its not on my build |
| 23:37:40 | Soap | But seriously, soultwister, a FM receiver is a hardware device which can't be emmulated in software. You need a physical receiver, antenna, tuner, etc. |
| 23:37:47 | tucoz | soultwister, did you download a daily build? |
| 23:37:48 | markun | soultwister: the daily builds are a bit broken |
| 23:37:57 | markun | use the cvs build |
| 23:38:12 | soultwister | yes |
| 23:38:22 | tucoz | then do what markun says |
| 23:38:22 | soultwister | daily build |
| 23:38:38 | soultwister | dont you have to compile cvs |
| 23:39:07 | tucoz | no, go to the cvs page, and browse down to where it says "bleeding edge builds" |
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| 23:39:27 | soultwister | ok |
| 23:40:12 | soultwister | then what do i do with it |
| 23:40:49 | tucoz | the same as you do with the daily |
| 23:41:21 | soultwister | ok |
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| 23:41:35 | tucoz | it's the same contents. The daily gets built once a day, and the cvs builds at every commit to cvs |
| 23:41:52 | tucoz | that is why we call it bleeding edge :) |
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| 23:43:09 | soultwister | different name then all the other files rockboy.c |
| 23:44:36 | tucoz | i don't understand, but something is wrong when the daily zip files are made. the plugins are not included for some reason |
| 23:44:53 | tucoz | they are however included in the cvs builds |
| 23:47:09 | Soap | so, if you really wanted you could download a CVS which coincides with the build picked to be the daily, and...well, I guess you gain nothing. |
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| 23:49:17 | soultwister | thoes buids dont support my ipod |
| 23:49:36 | soultwister | those |
| 23:49:46 | soultwister | builds |
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| 23:50:38 | hcs | hmm, with a black background I can't read the splash screens, the text of which seems to be always black |
| 23:51:43 | tucoz | soultwister, what ipod do you have? |
| 23:51:48 | soultwister | bummer |
| 23:52:16 | tucoz | all the supported ipods are to be found there |
| 23:52:45 | markun | soultwister: so, which one do you have? |
| 23:53:07 | soultwister | 5g ipod 60 gig |
| 23:53:10 | soultwister | video |
| 23:53:19 | markun | <a target="_blank" href="http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip">http://www.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zipa> |
| 23:53:39 | soultwister | its on daily builds but not cvs builds |
| 23:53:43 | tucoz | it is |
| 23:53:57 | tucoz | it's right in front of me on the cvs page |
| 23:54:03 | tucoz | called ipodvideo |
| 23:54:10 | soultwister | thanks |
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| 23:55:43 | soultwister | dude rockboy isnt in that zip u gave me |
| 23:56:02 | tucoz | it is |
| 23:56:16 | tucoz | but you wont find it if you select "browse plugins" |
| 23:56:41 | soultwister | ok i looked in rocks directory no rockboy |
| 23:56:51 | tucoz | hmm |
| 23:57:03 | petur | isn't it a viewer? |
| 23:57:06 | soultwister | where do i find it then |
| 23:57:27 | soultwister | no its a emulator for gameboy |
| 23:57:41 | petur | it's in .rockbox/viewers |
| 23:57:50 | soultwister | hmm |
| 23:57:56 | mirak | ahah I felt like I was trolling on ffmpeg channel when I asked them why libavcodec is not even sorted at least in audio and video codecs |
| 23:58:11 | soultwister | your right |
| 23:58:22 | markun | soultwister: just click on a .gb rom file |
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| 23:58:50 | soultwister | ok ill try |
| 23:58:54 | markun | mirak: what did they reply? |
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