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| 00:00:26 | petur | Davide-NYC: trying to write an int handler for the isp1362 |
| 00:01:15 | Davide-NYC | OK |
| 00:01:18 | petur | re recording, jhMikeS is working on a patch that should also fix this |
| 00:01:22 | * | Davide-NYC has no idea what that is |
| 00:01:33 | Davide-NYC | that's good news |
| 00:01:58 | * | petur gets the feeling he doesn't know what he's doing either |
| 00:02:03 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 00:02:32 | Davide-NYC | regarding nera encoded AAC, does any of it work? (coldfire targets) |
| 00:02:35 | Davide-NYC | *Nero |
| 00:02:47 | Davide-NYC | I can't get them to playback |
| 00:02:49 | Davide-NYC | hmm |
| 00:03:39 | * | petur aborts and decides to sleep on it a bit |
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| 00:09:00 | TheWeeIrish | Ok it worked.. |
| 00:09:31 | * | ender` yawns |
| 00:09:47 | TheWeeIrish | Can i download like different fonts and backgrounds now? |
| 00:11:48 | * | lamed was messing around with nonsens today |
| 00:11:54 | lamed | good night |
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| 00:16:21 | Antr4x | Hi, can someone help me to get rockbox on my ipod mini? |
| 00:17:19 | Antr4x | ? |
| 00:17:42 | Paul_the_Nerd | Maybe if you explained what problem you're running into, so people had an actual question to answer... |
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| 00:19:34 | Kitt0s | hmmz |
| 00:19:35 | Kitt0s | :\ |
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| 00:20:42 | X-Snoop-X | Anyone know the best settings for scrolling so it gives yuthe fastest scroll with out doing Page scrool |
| 00:20:48 | X-Snoop-X | it seems slow to me |
| 00:21:15 | X-Snoop-X | i keep tweaking with the setting but i can't get it right |
| 00:21:39 | Kitt0s | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6861.0 |
| 00:21:41 | Kitt0s | :( |
| 00:23:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | Kitt0s: TagCache is focused around file metadata. While in TagCache a *single* button press takes you into the menus, where you then have options like "Browse Plugins" and the various settings. I'm not sure I understand why you think they should be moved out of the menu system and into an unrelated system. |
| 00:24:13 | Kitt0s | not moved, i was just thinking about a shortcut.. |
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| 00:26:31 | PaulJam | i don't really understand why it would be easyser to enter the menu by entering the tagcache view and navigating to the settings entry instead of just pressing the menu button |
| 00:26:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | That's what i don't get. |
| 00:28:37 | Kitt0s | i use X5L, so i my hand holds the device so i can axx only the joystick.. having to move my hand to the side to click the rec button to get to the menus kinda feels suckky to me and uncomfertable |
| 00:29:21 | Davide-NYC | New wiki page: CodecPerformanceComparison |
| 00:29:37 | Davide-NYC | Let meknow if any of it is totally unclear. (please) |
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| 00:30:19 | Antr4x | Here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation , c.1 dosent work |
| 00:30:23 | Antr4x | plz help me |
| 00:30:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | "doesn't work" doesn't describe what's happening |
| 00:30:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | What error message do you get? |
| 00:31:01 | hcs | improvements to NSF player now up, vrc6 and speed improvements |
| 00:31:23 | Antr4x | like: this driv is not an ipod |
| 00:31:25 | Antr4x | drive* |
| 00:31:42 | Paul_the_Nerd | Antr4x: Well, then maybe that drive isn't an iPod. What drive letter does your iPod show up as? |
| 00:32:06 | Kitt0s | btw, can i increase the font size? |
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| 00:32:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | Kitt0s: Yes, by browsing to a larger font |
| 00:32:27 | Antr4x | "J" i use that insteed of "N" |
| 00:32:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | J is not a number. |
| 00:32:39 | Kitt0s | yea but i use hebrew font so no big fonts :] |
| 00:32:55 | TheWeeIrish | i cant even see my songs on this |
| 00:32:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | Antr4x: The instructions say to use numbers, starting with 1, and counting up. |
| 00:32:58 | TheWeeIrish | Where are they lol |
| 00:33:32 | Davide-NYC | I feel another rant coming on. |
| 00:33:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | TheWeeIrish: If you copied them over with iTunes, they're hidden. For the easiest method, see the TagCache section of the manual |
| 00:33:52 | TheWeeIrish | Alrighty |
| 00:33:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | Kitt0s: If there are no big Hebrew fonts, that's the perfect opening for someone to make some. ;) |
| 00:34:07 | Antr4x | Paul, shall i write ipodpatcher -r J bootpartition.bin "and here the number i did in prev step? |
| 00:34:40 | Genre9mp3 | Davide-NYC: have you actually performed these tests on your H100? |
| 00:34:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | Antr4x: I have no idea what you just asked. What number from the previous step? Have you even read the instructions? It says substitute N with a number, not your drive letter. |
| 00:34:53 | Davide-NYC | I am right now |
| 00:35:19 | Davide-NYC | I'm geting great and terrible results depending on codec |
| 00:35:22 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
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| 00:35:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | Antr4x: You use the number from b) in place of N |
| 00:35:56 | Genre9mp3 | Davide-NYC: Shouldn't the results be included in the wiki page, too? (You say: Report your results to the forum thread) |
| 00:36:16 | Davide-NYC | maybe |
| 00:36:19 | Antr4x | Aha, my bad. now i think im on the right way, thx. I will ask if i get problem again |
| 00:36:22 | PaulJam | Kitt0s: doesn't unifont include hebrew glyphs? |
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| 00:36:33 | Davide-NYC | what if we wnat to run an average? |
| 00:36:49 | Genre9mp3 | An average? |
| 00:37:13 | Davide-NYC | yeah, like out of 0 testers, 4 have H1x0s and we want to average those results? |
| 00:37:25 | Davide-NYC | out of 20 testers |
| 00:37:28 | Davide-NYC | not 0 |
| 00:37:51 | Davide-NYC | thumbs way up for FLAC, MP3 and MPC so far. |
| 00:37:54 | Genre9mp3 | Wouldn't be _normally_ the same results for the users with the same targets? |
| 00:38:06 | Davide-NYC | arghh! no ogg-vorbis in the batch file |
| 00:38:34 | Davide-NYC | Genre9mp3: should be, but I am suspicious of everything |
| 00:38:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | In theory under the exact same settings, with identical files, the results can't be anything but the same unless there are bugs in the system, right? I mean results should be deterministic, no? |
| 00:39:15 | Genre9mp3 | Aslo... I expect the same results between H100 and H300 as well as between iPods |
| 00:39:34 | Davide-NYC | What about extreme fluctuation in temperature!!! |
| 00:39:41 | Davide-NYC | Nah, you guys are right |
| 00:39:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | Genre9mp3: This is not something that should be expected. |
| 00:39:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | The H100 and H300 have different overhead simply for screen updates. |
| 00:39:55 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_the_Nerd: Why not? |
| 00:40:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | So as long as the screen is active at all, the boost ratios can be different |
| 00:40:07 | TheWeeIrish | It says tag cache is not ready |
| 00:40:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | Same with iPods with any differences in hardware, because different drivers will require slightly different amounts of effort to run, there will be variance, no? |
| 00:40:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | TheWeeIrish: What steps have you done? |
| 00:41:03 | TheWeeIrish | General Settings ? File View ? Show files option to ID3 database. |
| 00:41:09 | TheWeeIrish | ? = > |
| 00:42:03 | Genre9mp3 | Paul_the_Nerd: Maybe you are right... but at least would be similar results... I can't imagine why H100 would differ a lot with H300 for example... Still it mainly depends on the processor...no? |
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| 00:42:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | Genre9mp3: With the H100 and H300 the difference will be greater, than say the iPod Color and Nano. My understanding is that the color screen is actually a considerable hindrance. |
| 00:43:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | TheWeeIrish: So.... you didn't get the part of the manual about initializing it? |
| 00:43:26 | TheWeeIrish | Oh.. ha its right above it |
| 00:43:35 | TheWeeIrish | one sec :) |
| 00:43:38 | Genre9mp3 | So you say you that H300 would be slightly worse on that, right? |
| 00:44:32 | Davide-NYC | i HAVE ON HERE AND WILL REPORT |
| 00:44:38 | Davide-NYC | sorry for caps |
| 00:45:06 | Genre9mp3 | Davide-NYC: You have both H100 and H300 to test? |
| 00:45:12 | Davide-NYC | yes |
| 00:45:41 | Genre9mp3 | nice |
| 00:45:54 | Davide-NYC | I greatly prefer the H1x0 |
| 00:46:02 | Davide-NYC | much more elegant |
| 00:47:39 | Genre9mp3 | Davide-NYC: I still believe that the results should be uploaded in the wiki and not the forums (or at least both) |
| 00:47:47 | Davide-NYC | OK |
| 00:49:27 | TheWeeIrish | So do i add songs threw Itunes? |
| 00:50:42 | Genre9mp3 | TheWeeIrish: With Rockbox? Absolutely no! Just drag 'n' drop 'em! :) |
| 00:50:59 | PaulJam | TheWeeIrish: if you don't plan to use the original firmware, you can just drag and drop the files via explorer. |
| 00:51:19 | TheWeeIrish | SO just right into the folder in my computer |
| 00:51:19 | TheWeeIrish | ? |
| 00:51:29 | Antr4x | This directory is called ".rockbox" (note the dot at the start of the name). shall i remove the dot? |
| 00:51:39 | scorche | no |
| 00:51:45 | scorche | (to Antr4x |
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| 00:51:49 | Genre9mp3 | Antr4x: Why you want to remove the dot? |
| 00:52:02 | Antr4x | Was unsure |
| 00:52:30 | scorche | if the dot wasnt supposed to be there, one would think that we wouldnt add the dot... |
| 00:56:14 | TheWeeIrish | Hey the doom plugin is not working |
| 00:56:17 | TheWeeIrish | missing wad... |
| 00:56:22 | TheWeeIrish | Do i need to download something? |
| 00:56:39 | scorche | TheWeeIrish: go to the wiki page "PluginDoom" |
| 00:56:43 | TheWeeIrish | Yeah |
| 00:56:48 | TheWeeIrish | Thanks |
| 00:56:56 | Davide-NYC | I feel another rant coming on |
| 00:57:42 | Antr4x | Ehh, isnt rockbox till for to now using itunes when add tracks and so on? |
| 00:58:07 | scorche | Antr4x: i have no idea what you just asked... |
| 00:58:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | "till for to now using"? |
| 00:58:11 | Davide-NYC | I need to host a zip file. Less than 1MB. Anyone? |
| 00:58:35 | Davide-NYC | He's saying his previously itunes uploaded files work. |
| 00:59:19 | Antr4x | I asked at a forum if its any other program to use with ipod unless itunes, and someone said rockbox |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:09 | Davide-NYC | What are the benefits of putting Rockbox on an iPod? |
| 01:00:17 | * | Davide-NYC awaits the flood |
| 01:00:43 | scorche | Davide-NYC: wiki page "WhyRockbox" ;) |
| 01:00:50 | scorche | </flood> |
| 01:01:13 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 01:01:50 | godzirra | Ok, how do you check and see if you have 2048 bit sectors on your ipod? |
| 01:02:07 | godzirra | I exchanged mine for a new one, but ipodpatcher doesn't detect it either. |
| 01:02:19 | Antr4x | I have install rockbox to my ipod now, but when i start the ipod i cant click on anything, and when i connect the ipod to the computer itunes still come up |
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| 01:03:22 | * | Davide-NYC hugs certain IRC commands |
| 01:04:12 | scorche | Antr4x: what is there to "click" on an ipod? |
| 01:04:18 | obo | godzirra: you did a fdisk -l before didn't you? |
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| 01:04:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | Antr4x: Have you actually read the manual yet? It explains how to use Rockbox to play music. |
| 01:05:45 | godzirra | obo: Ahh, right. Thanks. Sorry, I've tried so much stuff lately, I can't remember what I have and haven't done. |
| 01:06:07 | godzirra | Antr4x: when itunes comes up, click on the ipod, then click on summary (I think..) and uncheck "automatically start itunes when ipod is plugged in" |
| 01:06:11 | godzirra | or something to that effect. |
| 01:08:24 | godzirra | anyone know if anyone is closer to getting rockbox running on a 5.5? |
| 01:08:59 | scorche | godzirra: why dont you check the forum topic? |
| 01:09:02 | godzirra | obo: It seems like all the 5g's shipped now might as well be 5.5's. They all have 2048 bit sectors apparently. |
| 01:09:13 | godzirra | scorche: I have been, but I assume people talk about it in here too. |
| 01:09:19 | godzirra | I'm just eager to get away from itunes. |
| 01:09:43 | godzirra | And it can't be as easy as repartitioning the drive on the ipod, can it? |
| 01:09:44 | scorche | they do, but any developments usually go into the thread afterward |
| 01:09:51 | scorche | it isnt |
| 01:09:53 | godzirra | scorche: Got it.. thanks for the advice. |
| 01:09:56 | godzirra | I didn't think so. :/ |
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| 01:10:47 | Soap | godzirra - if itunes is all you are trying to avoid, there are many simpler options to rockbox. |
| 01:10:47 | preglow | will restorting a 5g ipod with a new itunes version also give it large sectors? |
| 01:11:02 | Soap | anapod, sharepod, yamipod, ephpod, the list goes on and on. |
| 01:11:08 | godzirra | Soap: I know, but I really -liked- rockbox. |
| 01:11:12 | godzirra | Not just the drag and drop features. |
| 01:11:18 | godzirra | I had it on my iriver h-120 for about 3 years. |
| 01:11:25 | Paul_the_Nerd | preglow: It didn't to linuxstb |
| 01:11:28 | godzirra | preglow: I don't think so. |
| 01:11:32 | linuxstb_ | preglow: No. I tried that (many times) this morning, and it stayed with 512-byte sectors. |
| 01:11:45 | godzirra | linuxstb_: All the new 5g's are 2048 bit sectors it seems :/ |
| 01:11:55 | godzirra | Either that or apple hasnt updated the serial numbers on its page. |
| 01:12:00 | preglow | godzirra: byte |
| 01:12:05 | godzirra | sorry... |
| 01:12:08 | godzirra | byte... |
| 01:13:05 | Paul_the_Nerd | Didn't someone say the disk actually has 512byte sectors still, but that the iPod itself is what's reporting and acting like they're 2048? |
| 01:14:12 | godzirra | I'm not sure. I remember something like that, but I can only tell you for sure what fdisk -l returns. |
| 01:14:52 | godzirra | Can anyone point me in the direction of the forums for the 5g? I'm not sure which forum I should be looking in |
| 01:15:50 | scorche | Paul_the_Nerd: yes |
| 01:17:30 | Davide-NYC | Soap: what do you suggest fothe wiki page? |
| 01:18:35 | godzirra | Anyone? |
| 01:18:51 | scorche | godzirra: there are no forums for the 5g.. |
| 01:18:57 | preglow | anyone with a h1x0 and possibility to record its output here? |
| 01:19:20 | scorche | or any other devices for that matter |
| 01:20:14 | Davide-NYC | Soap: check the page again, fixed the batch file for vorbis |
| 01:20:51 | godzirra | scorche: Where would I look to find out information about the problems for t he 5.5g and ostensibly for whenever it gets f ixed. |
| 01:20:54 | godzirra | Better? :p |
| 01:21:00 | scorche | yes ;) |
| 01:21:14 | scorche | in the "new ports" forum under the 5.5g's thread |
| 01:21:21 | godzirra | Thanks :) |
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| 01:23:18 | godzirra | Soap: any suggestions as to which one may be better than another until rockbox is working on the 5.5? |
| 01:23:53 | Davide-NYC | preglow: yes! |
| 01:23:59 | godzirra | Ok.. question. |
| 01:24:08 | godzirra | If the hard drive actually -has- normal 512 sectors like Kargath says... |
| 01:24:10 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:24:20 | godzirra | after you get the bootloader installed, shouldnt rockbox work like normal? |
| 01:24:35 | scorche | if you ahvent noticed, we use apple's disk mode |
| 01:24:56 | godzirra | So when you write to it, you have to handle the funky 2048 byte sectors since its apple's disk mode? |
| 01:25:05 | godzirra | scorche: I haven't noticed. I havent owned an ipod before :) |
| 01:25:13 | godzirra | I'd get another h-120 or an h-140 if I could find one, but I couldnt. |
| 01:25:35 | Davide-NYC | ebay! They are everywhere |
| 01:25:44 | Davide-NYC | THat's where I got mine from |
| 01:25:49 | godzirra | Yeah, I have had bad luck buying hardware from ebay though. |
| 01:25:57 | Davide-NYC | hmm |
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| 01:26:51 | Davide-NYC | preglow: what do you want to do re recording with H1x0? |
| 01:27:23 | preglow | Davide-NYC: you've got a h1x0 and can record wavs from it via optical? |
| 01:27:32 | preglow | also, you need to have retailos installed |
| 01:27:53 | Davide-NYC | urghh, right now this second? hold on |
| 01:28:14 | * | Davide-NYC looking around |
| 01:28:20 | Davide-NYC | I have retail OS |
| 01:28:36 | preglow | Davide-NYC: no hurry |
| 01:29:18 | Davide-NYC | I think my mobo might have optical out |
| 01:29:19 | preglow | i'm uploading some wavs now which i would love for you to play in retailos, then record, via optical out, the output retailos makes from each of them |
| 01:31:55 | preglow | your mobo doesn't need optical out, you need an optical in, and one that can handle 44.1 khz as well. most mobo spdif input/outputs only handle 48khz, it seems |
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| 01:34:17 | Davide-NYC | wait, you want me to record FROM retail OS optical to what? Anything that'll take it? |
| 01:34:39 | preglow | to whatever you've got that can save wavs |
| 01:34:48 | preglow | mostly pcs do that, heh |
| 01:35:14 | Davide-NYC | what about another H1x0? |
| 01:35:18 | Davide-NYC | I have two |
| 01:35:30 | Davide-NYC | but I don;t have the correct cable |
| 01:35:37 | Davide-NYC | ; |
| 01:36:33 | preglow | that would work great, but yeah, you'd need a cable, hehe |
| 01:37:21 | Davide-NYC | If I procured said cable would you want me to record said audio from OF to RB or from OF to OF? |
| 01:37:36 | Davide-NYC | What are we testing here. |
| 01:37:38 | Davide-NYC | ? |
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| 01:37:51 | preglow | rockbox, i guess, whatever can sample correctly. last i check of had some recording glitches |
| 01:37:56 | preglow | we're testing of's resampling |
| 01:38:35 | Davide-NYC | ah. so you're gonna give me WAVs at a particular samplerate and see if the the OF spits out resampled or virgin SPDIF... correct? |
| 01:39:24 | preglow | yup |
| 01:39:27 | preglow | ah, no |
| 01:39:33 | preglow | it'll resample to 44.1 in all cases |
| 01:39:36 | preglow | i just want to check out how it does it |
| 01:39:58 | preglow | i've uploaded some test wavs at http://www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/resamp/ |
| 01:40:00 | Davide-NYC | hey, recording is my #1 concern |
| 01:41:04 | godzirra | lol.. sharepod wont let you copy music to the ipod anymore, and ephpod says in big letters "May not work with new ipods" :) |
| 01:41:32 | preglow | rockbox needs a new resampler, so i'm just doing some research |
| 01:42:45 | Antr4x | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_put_my_songs_on_the_iPo i dont get that. That dont explaine how to put songs on the ipod |
| 01:42:47 | preglow | now, where's ep0ch when you need him |
| 01:43:07 | TheWeeIrish | How do i make my ipod activate disk mode? |
| 01:43:47 | scorche | Antr4x: drag and drop |
| 01:44:00 | scorche | TheWeeIrish: do you ahve rockbox on it? |
| 01:44:38 | Antr4x | scorche: To the drive? Just make a map on the ipod drive and put the songs there? |
| 01:44:55 | preglow | he's trying to get rockbox on it |
| 01:45:01 | TheWeeIrish | Yes i do scorche |
| 01:45:19 | scorche | TheWeeIrish: then just plug in the cable |
| 01:45:34 | TheWeeIrish | Well i go to my computer and it shows up for a few seconds then goes away |
| 01:45:45 | scorche | Antr4x: is the ipod coming up with a drive letter? |
| 01:46:06 | Antr4x | Yes |
| 01:46:11 | Antr4x | "J" |
| 01:46:22 | linuxstb_ | TheWeeIrish: Have you ticked the "enable disk mode" box in itunes? |
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| 01:46:29 | scorche | then drag and drop as you would any other drive |
| 01:46:39 | TheWeeIrish | Let me look |
| 01:47:02 | Antr4x | I copy a song on the drive but i cant click on the map... |
| 01:47:13 | TheWeeIrish | I dont see it linux |
| 01:47:36 | linuxstb_ | It's on the same screen as the "update" and 'restore" buttons. |
| 01:48:00 | TheWeeIrish | oh hey.. lol i didnt know there was more down there |
| 01:48:01 | Davide-NYC | *cough* iriver *cough* |
| 01:48:27 | Antr4x | Nothing happens when i click on something on the ipod! |
| 01:48:55 | scorche | Antr4x: do you mean when you click on something for example, a song or a folder? |
| 01:49:07 | scorche | from your computer? |
| 01:50:06 | Antr4x | - yes - no. when i have the ipod in my hand :P i cant click on anything. nothing happens |
| 01:51:39 | scorche | read the manual |
| 01:51:57 | scorche | please =) |
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| 02:00 |
| 02:01:55 | * | scorche emits a happy sigh |
| 02:02:01 | Davide-NYC | lol |
| 02:02:15 | Davide-NYC | can I rant for one line? |
| 02:02:20 | scorche | go for it |
| 02:02:40 | Davide-NYC | Bad things for RB IMO: |
| 02:02:51 | scorche | ok...that was your one line |
| 02:02:56 | preglow | indeed it was, rant over... |
| 02:02:57 | Davide-NYC | 1. Games (I know, unpopular gripe) |
| 02:03:09 | scorche | hey! |
| 02:03:12 | scorche | you said one! |
| 02:03:13 | Davide-NYC | 2. iPod support |
| 02:03:17 | scorche | !!!! |
| 02:03:18 | Davide-NYC | come on |
| 02:03:31 | scorche | you shouldnt have said one if you knew it wasnt going to be ;) |
| 02:03:45 | Davide-NYC | I meant it in the 16 year old way |
| 02:04:03 | scorche | eh? |
| 02:04:08 | scorche | one line means one line... |
| 02:04:25 | preglow | i think ipod support is nice for rockbox |
| 02:04:34 | preglow | but then i would, wouldn't i |
| 02:04:45 | scorche | very nice considering the lack of any documentation... |
| 02:05:06 | Davide-NYC | I never realized high CPU boosty vorbis was on coldfire! |
| 02:05:19 | preglow | now you do! |
| 02:05:34 | Davide-NYC | I sure do |
| 02:06:58 | Davide-NYC | when do you need the resultant WAVs from my optical to optical test? |
| 02:07:11 | Davide-NYC | I can have them tomorrow night |
| 02:07:12 | scorche | BTW, games is not a good gripe to have considering you only have to edit /plugins/SOURCES to get rid of them.. |
| 02:07:19 | Davide-NYC | I already do |
| 02:07:19 | scorche | or even delete the .rocks |
| 02:07:20 | preglow | Davide-NYC: whenever you've got them |
| 02:07:41 | scorche | then quit complaining =) |
| 02:07:56 | Davide-NYC | oh come on I'm just having fun |
| 02:08:00 | Davide-NYC | :-P |
| 02:08:08 | scorche | i was too until you lied about the one line thing |
| 02:08:24 | Davide-NYC | now the gloves are waaaaay off? |
| 02:08:26 | preglow | Davide-NYC: but just to make sure you've got it, all i want is for those wavs to be played back on of, then recorded as wavs some place else, via optical |
| 02:08:36 | Davide-NYC | gotcha |
| 02:08:45 | preglow | Davide-NYC: and do make sure you mark the resulting wavs with the file you played back on of when you recorded |
| 02:09:14 | Davide-NYC | iRiver OS −−> optical out −−> Digi001 −−> Name.wav |
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| 02:09:22 | preglow | aye |
| 02:09:27 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 02:09:34 | preglow | Davide-NYC: just lemme know when you've got them, no rush |
| 02:09:40 | Davide-NYC | tomorrow earliest |
| 02:09:56 | Davide-NYC | I have to go to the studio to do it and t depends on whether or not there are clients or not |
| 02:10:48 | Davide-NYC | the vorbis performance on coldfire is crap |
| 02:10:58 | Davide-NYC | well. not crap but surprising |
| 02:11:03 | Davide-NYC | bummer |
| 02:11:10 | preglow | sure, yes |
| 02:11:13 | preglow | still lots to do there |
| 02:11:23 | preglow | it's crap on arm as well |
| 02:11:52 | preglow | i think it's memory constrained, though, so it won't be easy |
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| 02:12:25 | Davide-NYC | what about the fact that I cannot play Nero encoded AAC files on my H1x0? Is that me or is that expected. |
| 02:13:21 | preglow | expected, i think, the m4a parser is very picky right now |
| 02:15:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yup |
| 02:15:22 | Paul_the_Nerd | Officially we only claim support for iTunes encoded AACs at the moment. |
| 02:15:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | Not that it's well documented that those are the only ones we claim to work with. ;) |
| 02:16:40 | preglow | argh |
| 02:16:45 | preglow | someone give me time, please |
| 02:17:10 | Davide-NYC | here ya go! |
| 02:17:17 | * | Davide-NYC give preglow time somehow |
| 02:18:30 | Davide-NYC | alright, I'm done for today. If anyone wants to contribute results to the CodecPerformanceComparison wiki page go right ahead. I think it's ready. |
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| 02:25:03 | lini | hm, smthing must be wrong with my ipod |
| 02:25:20 | lini | it was showing the empty battery icon a while ago |
| 02:25:39 | lini | nothing comes up when i plug it in |
| 02:26:27 | lini | is there any useful key combo that resets the darned thing? |
| 02:26:50 | luckz | I lack enough ipod experience to answer that. |
| 02:26:56 | sneakums | menu+select, i think |
| 02:27:05 | sneakums | you need to toggle hold, and then hold those for five or six seconds |
| 02:27:05 | lini | yep |
| 02:27:08 | luckz | it took me half an hour to figure out that the device was not dead, no, the keys were just locked the last time I had to use one |
| 02:27:15 | lini | menu + select did the trick |
| 02:27:26 | luckz | (some bitch of an executive's secretary had ordered one and it broke and we had to get her a working replacement and I had to deliver it) |
| 02:28:07 | Soap | whoa abusive language |
| 02:28:26 | lini | thanks! |
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| 02:32:32 | TheWeeIrish | Hey about the doom thing and its like the real game.. is there any other games i could get? |
| 02:32:57 | Soap | gameboy and gameboy color games. |
| 02:33:06 | Soap | but all pluggins come with rockbox. |
| 02:33:11 | TheWeeIrish | Where can i get them? |
| 02:33:18 | TheWeeIrish | What? |
| 02:33:26 | TheWeeIrish | I can get them off the website? |
| 02:33:52 | Soap | they came in the zip file (pluggins that is) |
| 02:34:02 | Soap | you need to own the gameboy games to rip the roms. |
| 02:34:12 | TheWeeIrish | i have a few |
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| 03:00:00 | luckz | I dont want to know how I'd play gameboy games on my x5. |
| 03:00:04 | luckz | sounds painful. |
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| 04:53:02 | maedhros | how does using rockbox on my ipod affect the itunes/general osx syncing? |
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| 04:55:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | maedhros: Other than the fact that you have to reformat to Fat32, it shouldn't affect it at all if you don't want it to. |
| 04:56:20 | maedhros | so the workflow would go just as with regular firmware? add songs to my playlists in itunes and "update" |
| 04:57:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, Rockbox doesn't use the iTunes database or playlists, so those playlists won't be usable in Rockbox. |
| 04:57:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | The song files will be on the iPod, but Rockbox isn't related to iTunes. |
| 04:58:40 | maedhros | so, basicly, my ipod will connect and mount as any other mass storage device? |
| 04:59:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | Not entirely |
| 04:59:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | You can still use iTunes to sync songs over |
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| 05:00:51 | maedhros | k |
| 05:00:57 | maedhros | i can get used to that. |
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| 05:01:51 | maedhros | but how does the file browsing work? Do you browse a library of tags, or do you browse according to files and paths? |
| 05:03:08 | Paul_the_Nerd | You browse according to files and paths |
| 05:03:14 | Paul_the_Nerd | But Rockbox can scan tags and build its own database |
| 05:04:19 | maedhros | so, both then- |
| 05:05:18 | maedhros | i kinda miss my old JBR |
| 05:05:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | Ah |
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| 05:14:29 | Soap | ask in #ipodlinux |
| 05:15:24 | ForgottenMemory | but i just want to know if its possible |
| 05:15:26 | ForgottenMemory | not how to do it |
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| 08:27:47 | vik_ | how is alarm functionality coming along? |
| 08:29:05 | hcs | at an alarming rate? |
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| 08:46:02 | Davide-NYC | does apple provide a standalone AAC encoder? |
| 08:46:33 | scorche | something wrong with ahead's? |
| 08:48:29 | Davide-NYC | well the files will not play at all on RB currently |
| 08:48:46 | * | scorche shrugs |
| 08:48:47 | Davide-NYC | but I have iTunes encoded files that will without a hiccup |
| 08:49:20 | scorche | apple is not the company that would realease a standalone encoder.. |
| 08:49:27 | scorche | -a |
| 08:52:13 | Davide-NYC | I found something call iTunesEncode but it's just a CLI for iTunes (which is a requirement) |
| 08:52:24 | Davide-NYC | maybe I can DL and tear out some DLLs |
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| 08:52:34 | Davide-NYC | I don;t want that on my machine |
| 08:52:49 | Davide-NYC | DL iTunes... that is |
| 08:53:03 | scorche | why dont you just use a different format? |
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| 09:02:35 | Davide-NYC | scorche: I'm just trying to do some testing. THat's all. I'm mainly MP# and FLAC |
| 09:02:39 | Davide-NYC | *MP3 |
| 09:02:48 | scorche | ah ;) |
| 09:03:23 | Davide-NYC | what target do you use? |
| 09:03:33 | scorche | ajbr and nano |
| 09:04:20 | Davide-NYC | if you're feeling generous maybe you want to contribute to the CodecPerformanceComparison wiki page |
| 09:05:08 | Davide-NYC | Warning: it takes some real time to complete . |
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| 09:06:05 | scorche | aye |
| 09:06:07 | scorche | i might |
| 09:06:19 | scorche | although, just on the nano |
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| 09:07:08 | scorche | that kind of test is pretty useless on the ajbr ;) |
| 09:08:47 | Davide-NYC | absolutely |
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| 09:09:03 | Davide-NYC | Maybe I shoudl mention SWCODEC targets only. |
| 09:09:14 | scorche | it should be a given... |
| 09:09:52 | scorche | especially considering that mp3 would be the only one that would even play |
| 09:10:50 | Davide-NYC | right I forgot about that. (I don't go that far back in ROckbox years) |
| 09:10:57 | scorche | and why the extra 2 columns on the chart? |
| 09:11:17 | Davide-NYC | I had an idea, then I lost it but the columns remained |
| 09:12:11 | scorche | and you cant delete them? |
| 09:12:25 | Davide-NYC | no, I'm hoping I remember what they were for |
| 09:12:34 | Davide-NYC | but I could delete them |
| 09:12:41 | Davide-NYC | You delete them! |
| 09:12:44 | Davide-NYC | ;-) |
| 09:12:59 | * | scorche sighs and hits the edit button |
| 09:13:22 | Davide-NYC | hehe thansk |
| 09:13:27 | Davide-NYC | (bit drunk( |
| 09:13:35 | Davide-NYC | going to sleep. Easy y'all |
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| 10:05:43 | arkascha | no daily builds available from rockbox.org?!? |
| 10:06:01 | hcs | it is truly the end of days |
| 10:11:27 | scorche | arkascha: what are you talking about? |
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| 10:16:43 | linuxstb | scorche: Try and download a daily build... |
| 10:17:13 | linuxstb | (today's and yesterday's are missing) |
| 10:17:23 | scorche | ah |
| 10:17:25 | scorche | so i see |
| 10:17:26 | linuxstb | arkascha: Just download the latest CVS build instead. |
| 10:17:30 | scorche | up to #6 |
| 10:17:53 | scorche | ...not that big of an issue imo (one that needs to be fixed of course, but still) |
| 10:18:46 | scorche | s/#6/the sixth |
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| 10:19:39 | * | Bagder fixes the daily builds |
| 10:20:53 | * | linuxstb compiles a Player sim to see what Rockblox looks like |
| 10:22:05 | petur | Bagder: is there something else to do to install an INT handler except for providing a function with the correct name and attribute? |
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| 10:22:29 | Bagder | I don't know actually |
| 10:22:40 | petur | who does? |
| 10:23:00 | Bagder | I'd guess on amiconn and LinusN for example |
| 10:23:51 | petur | my code behaves the same with or without my handler, so I'm thinking it's not getting called at all |
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| 10:28:37 | * | petur thinks he discovered something and waits on cygwin... |
| 10:31:24 | petur | damn... nothing :( |
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| 10:35:38 | syRN | sup guys |
| 10:36:18 | syRN | Ive actually just gotten into the ipod scene, i used to have a 2g that broken and now im purchasing a 5g 80 gig model |
| 10:37:57 | syRN | so just like the topic says how hard would it be to port a program (UsbHostFS) onto Rockbox, for those that dont know what usbhostfs is, it is a program that makes it possible to make a psp run external applications and such using a program called daxloader |
| 10:40:04 | syRN | anyone in ? |
| 10:43:23 | linuxstb | First of all, Rockbox doesn't yet run on the 80GB 5g. |
| 10:44:13 | syRN | i understand |
| 10:44:24 | syRN | but for the future ... anything running would be of benefit |
| 10:44:55 | linuxstb | What exactly does UsbHostFS do? |
| 10:45:28 | BHSPitLappy | oh noes, a PSP modder |
| 10:46:53 | syRN | ;D |
| 10:46:58 | syRN | not a modder |
| 10:47:10 | syRN | just somebody interested if this could be done |
| 10:47:22 | syRN | *stb im trying to find more info on what it exactly does |
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| 10:52:44 | syRN | stb the gist of it is routing tcp/ip protocals through the usb through a set of commands that can be seen by daxloader, from what ive seen on the pspdev network many ports of this program have been made and i have a link to the source of it aswell |
| 10:53:43 | linuxstb | Yes, but what does it do? i.e. what functionality does it implement? |
| 10:53:53 | syRN | looking |
| 10:54:04 | syRN | not much is written into the nuts and bolts of it |
| 10:57:36 | linuxstb | But anyway, Rockbox doesn't have a USB stack, or a TCP/IP stack. or a USB driver for the USB hardware in the ipod... |
| 10:58:22 | syRN | hmmm |
| 10:59:02 | syRN | i have seen software out there to make your ipod act as an external hdd run from the ipod itself |
| 10:59:58 | linuxstb | The ipod acts as an external hard drive out of the box - there's no extra software needed, you just plug it in, and it appears as a standard USB mass-storage device. |
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| 11:00:55 | syRN | hmm |
| 11:02:58 | syRN | alright then |
| 11:03:00 | syRN | i guess |
| 11:05:33 | syRN | PSPLINK comes with a USB protocol driver to talk to a PC host to create a host filing system. The |
| 11:05:34 | syRN | host filing system is exported as a new IO device hostX: (where X is 0 through 7) so once you have |
| 11:05:34 | syRN | set up the driver and the PC side then you can just access files on your PC as if they were on ms0 or |
| 11:05:34 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK syRN |
| 11:05:34 | syRN | flash0. |
| 11:08:55 | linuxstb | OK. That's different - there are plans to add USB host support in general to Rockbox, but that will probably be on the iriver H300 first. We have documentation for the USB hardware in the H300, but none for the ipod. |
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| 11:37:02 | JdGordon | evening all |
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| 11:39:08 | nls | mornin |
| 11:39:14 | petur | :) |
| 11:41:54 | linuxstb | Bagder: (or anyone) Can you remind me of the URL giving the metadata about the latest cvs/daily build? |
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| 11:48:38 | Dma-Sc | hello |
| 11:50:26 | Dma-Sc | would there be a wps tag to notify if volume is being changed? (so that a numerical value could be displayed somewhere on the screen during that volume change) |
| 11:51:39 | nls | don't thunk so... |
| 11:53:50 | Dma-Sc | ah ok, no information about something like that on the wiki wps tag page but i didn't knew if this one was totaly up to date |
| 11:54:33 | Dma-Sc | such a tag would be really interesting to have precise volume info during volume change, like in the basic info bar |
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| 12:08:12 | Lear | Hrm, why create an MP4 with what appears to be gaps in it? |
| 12:14:04 | linuxstb | What do you mean? |
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| 12:18:45 | Lear | I have this file in which there is some sort of padding between two samples (in the MP4 sense). |
| 12:19:20 | Lear | I.e., adding the size of the current sample to the start of said sample does not give you the position of the next sample. |
| 12:20:03 | Lear | That's why a file I have fails to decode. Seems like we need the stsc and stco atoms after all... |
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| 13:11:18 | Arathis | I just installed the latest CVS build and now tag-cache won't build. it says ..[1/7] when booting than goes to the menu, but when I try to go to "Artist" or so it says "tag cache not ready" :( |
| 13:15:46 | midkay | try updating and restarting again.. |
| 13:15:57 | midkay | or even re "initializing" again. |
| 13:18:49 | Arathis | midkay: I did that. I normally reset the config when I updated to a newer version of RB. than I reconfigure it and at last I reinitialize tag-cache |
| 13:19:14 | Arathis | and I did it more than once this time because of tag cache not working |
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| 13:19:16 | midkay | try doing it again, i don't know. sounds like it didn't finish.. |
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| 13:20:20 | JdGordon | mooving the usb logo to a bmp seems to have stopped the transparency in it! |
| 13:20:29 | midkay | no way! |
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| 13:20:36 | salive | I fucked up |
| 13:20:38 | salive | Terribly |
| 13:20:49 | salive | So, I was thinking |
| 13:21:03 | salive | "Why not show my girlfriend the wonders of my themed rockbox" |
| 13:21:12 | salive | "Yeah, I'll just patch in the bootloader" |
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| 13:21:32 | JdGordon | midkay: was that to me? |
| 13:21:38 | salive | At the moment that I press ENTER to patch the bootloader, I notice that it is infact my girlfriends rockbox plugged in |
| 13:21:49 | salive | Her iPod Mini |
| 13:21:55 | midkay | JdGordon: yeah. just a bit of silliness in response to your (over)reaction? :) |
| 13:21:56 | salive | Not my iPod Video |
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| 13:22:18 | salive | Before I can react, her ipod is patched with my 5g bootloader. |
| 13:22:20 | JdGordon | hehe ok |
| 13:22:36 | salive | How *dumb* is that? |
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| 13:22:52 | JdGordon | damn read_line is sloow :'( |
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| 13:23:24 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: The transparency? Isn't the bmp logo 1bpp that takes the fg/bg colours? |
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| 13:23:41 | nls | JdGordon, I think it was changed to use the native format. So making the backgound pink might work (or is that only in wps?) |
| 13:23:41 | salive | Does anyone know how to restore the original apple bootloader? |
| 13:23:43 | JdGordon | Genre9mp3: i dunno. |
| 13:24:06 | nls | Genre9mp3, it did when drawn as mono bitmap |
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| 13:24:32 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: So what you get is always black & white insted the fg/bg colours? |
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| 13:24:51 | JdGordon | ye, im not really worried about it, just lookks funny |
| 13:25:01 | Genre9mp3 | I see... |
| 13:25:25 | Genre9mp3 | Well... linuxstb has to know about this |
| 13:25:29 | linuxstb | JdGordon: The existing USB logo should be changed for all targets, so I didn't worry about transparency (for now). |
| 13:25:36 | midkay | salive: you should just be able to use the rewrite command (like patching the bootloader) with the extracted file.. |
| 13:25:49 | midkay | from the first step.. |
| 13:25:53 | linuxstb | (I mean for all targets apart from Archos and the H100 remote...) |
| 13:26:00 | salive | midkay: The thing is... |
| 13:26:14 | salive | I did not extract her stuff before I patched. |
| 13:26:28 | midkay | so what did you extract? from the 5G? |
| 13:26:40 | salive | Will the 5g extract work on an iPod mini? |
| 13:26:46 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: "pink" colour will act like transparency now? |
| 13:26:47 | midkay | no. |
| 13:26:55 | midkay | i think in this case you have to.. hm.. either perform a firmware upgrade or restore from apple's official software.. |
| 13:27:31 | salive | Currently, the ipod just hangs at the apple logo. Wont talk to the computer. |
| 13:27:57 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 13:27:57 | * | linuxstb whispers emergency disk mode |
| 13:27:59 | midkay | you have to reboot to disk mode, that is hold menu+select until the LCD clears and then hold select+play. |
| 13:28:20 | salive | ok, thanks. I didnt get that from the apple manual. |
| 13:28:45 | salive | Works like a charm. |
| 13:28:48 | salive | You are my hero. |
| 13:28:58 | midkay | they wouldn't advertise it, nah :) |
| 13:29:10 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: In the USB logo I mean |
| 13:29:32 | midkay | sure thing, just try and perform an upgrade now.. |
| 13:29:38 | preglow | David-NYC: in case you read logs, you don't need to any recording for me anymore |
| 13:29:57 | salive | Sure thing :) |
| 13:30:13 | salive | Quick Q: Salvaging the music currently on the device is impossible, yes? |
| 13:30:15 | preglow | iriver uses surprisingly nice resampling |
| 13:30:28 | linuxstb | Genre9mp3: At the moment the logo isn't being displayed with the transparent_bitmap() function - but that could be changed. |
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| 13:31:28 | midkay | salive: upgrade, not restore.. |
| 13:31:35 | salive | oooh |
| 13:31:38 | salive | <3 |
| 13:32:28 | midkay | restore would be last-resort, but upgrading - if it won't work right now - can be done regardless, iPodWizard has a utility that tricks the updater into thinking your ipod needs an update and that should restore the firmware without touching the music. |
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| 13:33:11 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: I see... and I think it's better without it because transparency would be a problem when someone uses black bg colour (at least with the current logo) |
| 13:33:24 | Genre9mp3 | This would make the logo be invisible |
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| 13:35:21 | salive | Damn, thanks midkay. Yours has probably been the most thorough and quick support I've ever gotten on an IRC channel. |
| 13:35:37 | midkay | :o glad i could help, did you get it straightened out? |
| 13:35:53 | salive | Just 15 minutes and I've already almost fixed my problem. |
| 13:36:02 | salive | Yeah, just playing with the ipod wizard thing now :) |
| 13:36:32 | midkay | haha, alright, cool. :) |
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| 14:03:59 | Kingstone | anyone working on nano 2g encryption that i can help him? |
| 14:04:54 | linuxstb | I don't believe anyone in Rockbox is. |
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| 14:06:15 | daurnimator | has someone ported to ipod 5.5g yet? |
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| 14:07:21 | linuxstb | daurnimator: No. |
| 14:07:51 | Zubzub | Apple: iPod 4th gen (grayscale and color), 5th gen (Video), 1st gen Nano and Mini 1st/2nd gen (Nano 2nd gen and Video 5.5th gen are not supported) |
| 14:19:37 | Lear | jdgordon: why do you need a faster read_line? |
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| 14:20:59 | JdGordon | Lear: im trying to get a working random folder advance working, and one thing i tried was having the list of folders as plain text in a file, which is way to sloow |
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| 14:24:09 | JdGordon | woot... it works :D |
| 14:26:33 | Genre9mp3 | haha... ScrewedForSure: "Zune will not use Microsoft's existing PlaysForSure digital rights management (DRM) software. Although media will still be offered in WMA format, the new DRM system means that music purchased from one of MS's many PlaysForSure partners will not work on the Zune device, nor will Zune-DRMed music work on 3rd party devices using PlaysForSure." |
| 14:26:55 | Genre9mp3 | I love how DRM-patents "respect" their customers... :P |
| 14:29:09 | * | JdGordon looses all faith in the rand() function in rb |
| 14:29:21 | JdGordon | the first time its run it always gives me the same unmber! |
| 14:30:11 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: I think this problem is known and has to be fixed... |
| 14:30:23 | JdGordon | anyway... is anyone around so i can c if i can finnaly commit this random folder advance patch? |
| 14:34:08 | Kingstone | does anyone know an itunesdb class? |
| 14:34:35 | Kingstone | i have one but it is not updated to latest itunes version |
| 14:35:21 | preglow | JdGordon: ehh |
| 14:35:23 | preglow | JdGordon: do you seed it? |
| 14:35:37 | JdGordon | i do now |
| 14:35:54 | preglow | no wonder you get the same number if you don't seed it |
| 14:35:59 | preglow | the random number generator in rockbox is very good |
| 14:36:24 | JdGordon | yes, but it was after a reboot each time... |
| 14:36:49 | JdGordon | unless rockbox itself doesnt seed it when it starts up |
| 14:37:57 | preglow | it doesn't |
| 14:38:01 | preglow | not as far as i know |
| 14:38:14 | JdGordon | ok then. that makes sense then |
| 14:38:16 | preglow | just grep the source code for srand() ans see |
| 14:38:37 | JdGordon | shouldnt it seed it with the current tick after init() finishes? that should be fairly random each time |
| 14:38:54 | preglow | i don't think that'll be very random, no |
| 14:39:13 | preglow | it's better to wait for some user action before seeding |
| 14:39:16 | preglow | that'll be tons more random |
| 14:39:32 | JdGordon | ok, anyway, its not really a big deal |
| 14:40:45 | preglow | the generator itself is a mersenne twister, known as one of the best random number generators |
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| 14:42:12 | JdGordon | can i commit this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2808#comment10776 |
| 14:44:16 | preglow | hmm |
| 14:44:27 | preglow | i don't want it, that's for sure |
| 14:44:38 | preglow | we really should have some voting functionality... |
| 14:45:30 | nls | JdGordon, why is the list generator in a plugin? |
| 14:45:53 | JdGordon | coz its slow and wates space if its in the rockbox bin |
| 14:46:32 | JdGordon | im going to make it more fancy, but for the time being its very boring |
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| 14:50:24 | webguest666 | JdGordon: I would definately use that random folder feature, so you have my vote |
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| 15:03:22 | Lear | Yay! Winamp encoded AAC plays (no more "Gain control not yet implemented"). :) |
| 15:03:41 | preglow | w00tness |
| 15:03:45 | preglow | what was wrong? |
| 15:04:17 | Lear | I mentioned it earlier today, but to put it short, there were holes in the file... |
| 15:04:36 | Lear | Sometimes a bit of skipping between "blocks" is needed. |
| 15:04:44 | preglow | weird... |
| 15:05:05 | Lear | Was only 28 bytes in one place for this file, but yeah... |
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| 15:07:11 | linuxstb | Lear: So those gaps are legal? |
| 15:07:21 | Lear | Hm... May need some improvement in end-of-file handling... |
| 15:08:32 | Lear | linuxstb: appears so. QT file spec says that to get the proper location of a "sample" you should use the chunk offset table. |
| 15:11:38 | linuxstb | So basically seek to each chunk, rather than going sequentially through the file? |
| 15:11:50 | preglow | well, that would be the logical approach |
| 15:11:56 | preglow | isn't that what we currently do? |
| 15:12:11 | linuxstb | No, we currently go sequentially through the file. |
| 15:12:15 | preglow | small wonder it only works for some files, then |
| 15:12:48 | preglow | i thought that was a no-no when it comes to chunk based file formats, heh |
| 15:13:03 | linuxstb | I never knew it was a chunk-based file format... |
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| 15:15:11 | linuxstb | Unless I'm misunderstanding - is the chunk offset table "stts", or something else? |
| 15:15:13 | Lear | what I do is check the current offset against the expected, and if needed, skip ahead. |
| 15:15:19 | Lear | no, stco. |
| 15:15:44 | Lear | but first you need to find out which chunk the sample is in, using the stsc table... |
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| 15:16:10 | linuxstb | Ah, two tables we currently ignore completely... |
| 15:16:12 | Lear | and sample being the QT sample, which in reality is a number of "normal" samples... |
| 15:16:45 | linuxstb | So the files it works with just have a single chunk containing the AAC data? |
| 15:17:13 | linuxstb | Do you have a URL for the QT spec? |
| 15:17:20 | Lear | Don't know really, could be that they had no gaps between the chunks. |
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| 15:17:55 | Lear | No URL. I downloaded a PDF from apple.com, I think. |
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| 15:18:29 | linuxstb | Do those 28 bytes contain anything interesting? |
| 15:18:58 | Lear | No idea. |
| 15:19:19 | Lear | Checked one file that worked before, it had multiple chunks too. |
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| 15:23:15 | barrywardell | is rockbox supposed to shut off when the battery gets below a certain level? |
| 15:23:51 | nls | on some archoses I think it does |
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| 15:25:12 | linuxstb | I think it just hasn't been calibrated for the newer targets. |
| 15:26:42 | Dma-Sc | on h120 it definitly doesn't :) |
| 15:30:13 | barrywardell | how does it decide when to shutdown? |
| 15:30:33 | barrywardell | oh h10 it doesn't and when the battery level gets really low it behaves erratically |
| 15:30:45 | barrywardell | volume jumping to max, buttons don't work, etc |
| 15:30:46 | nls | hardware poweroff on h100/300 |
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| 15:33:44 | nls | maybe the h10 doesn't have low voltage protection, how low does the battery go? |
| 15:35:18 | nls | li poly shouldn't go lower than 3v |
| 15:35:26 | barrywardell | not very low |
| 15:35:46 | barrywardell | barrywardell.net/assets/files/benchmark.png">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/benchmark.png |
| 15:35:54 | barrywardell | that should give you an idea |
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| 15:45:49 | barrywardell | i can't see any functionality in the code to shutdown rockbox when the battery gets below a certain level |
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| 15:46:30 | nls | LinusN is probably the man to ask |
| 15:46:43 | tomek__ | Hi there |
| 15:46:52 | nls | hi |
| 15:47:39 | tomek__ | I have troubles installing Rockbox to my iPod Video 30Gb |
| 15:48:01 | nls | is it the new "5.5G" |
| 15:48:20 | tomek__ | I'm using Kubuntu, so followed the instructions |
| 15:48:27 | tomek__ | no, it's a 5G |
| 15:48:36 | tomek__ | I think so |
| 15:48:37 | nls | good |
| 15:48:47 | nls | when did you get it? |
| 15:49:03 | barrywardell | nls: ok. i'll ask him when i see him online again. |
| 15:49:04 | tomek__ | and now I have a message: use itunes to restore |
| 15:49:40 | tomek__ | I get it at the begining of 2006 |
| 15:50:14 | nls | then it's most likely 5G |
| 15:50:25 | nls | and is supposed to work :-) |
| 15:51:30 | tomek__ | one thing was confusing during the installation" |
| 15:51:30 | tomek__ | tomek@tomek:~/Desktop$ ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
| 15:51:30 | tomek__ | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video |
| 15:51:30 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK tomek__ |
| 15:51:30 | tomek__ | Cannot open loader image file bootloader-video.bin |
| 15:52:11 | linuxstb | Did you download the file bootloader-video.bin ? |
| 15:53:36 | tomek__ | well... |
| 15:54:36 | tomek__ | i downloaded ipod_fw |
| 15:55:23 | linuxstb | See the first line in Step 3) in the instructions (assuming you're following the wiki page). |
| 15:55:27 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux |
| 15:56:51 | tomek__ | no, I didn't downloaded it... |
| 15:57:19 | nls | you need it |
| 15:58:13 | tomek__ | so if I repeat all the stuff, is it going to be ok? |
| 15:58:55 | tomek__ | I'm sure I need it, I just followed the online instructions for ipod Video |
| 15:59:37 | linuxstb | No, don't repeat everything. |
| 15:59:51 | linuxstb | Just download the bootloader-video.bin file and continue from step 3). |
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| 16:00:03 | tomek__ | and just went to see the the linux instructions, so I missed this |
| 16:00:23 | tomek__ | ok, thanks man, thank you so much |
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| 16:03:05 | Captian_Seawench | I was wondering why if i use themes with the jbuilds they never lok right and the text doesn't line up right |
| 16:03:32 | Captian_Seawench | I don't know what i'm doing wrong |
| 16:03:57 | Captian_Seawench | is there a tutorial I can read somewhere about themes? |
| 16:04:40 | nls | have you installed the fonts |
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| 16:04:56 | linuxstb | There are two reasons for that: 1) You haven't downloaded the fonts zip file from the Rockbox website; or 2) The theme you're using needs a custom version of Rockbox, and you're not running one... |
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| 16:06:44 | Captian_Seawench | ok |
| 16:06:52 | Captian_Seawench | I'll look for the font pack |
| 16:07:18 | jocke1s | hi. My 30Gig rockboxed ipod isnt recognized. When I connect it to any computer. I am at loss here. I have no idea how to proceed. |
| 16:07:21 | Captian_Seawench | I'm using the custom rockbox by julius or the jbuild |
| 16:07:36 | Captian_Seawench | and I know i have the files in the right place just nothing lines up |
| 16:09:46 | jocke1s | anyone? It will start up fine. And I can use it (rockbox). But since quite a while I just cant mount it on any computer. And the bad thing is It isn't even recognized so I cant format it either. |
| 16:10:14 | tomek__ | <linuxstb>: :((( It's not working... |
| 16:11:12 | Captian_Seawench | linuxstb do you know where in the site i can get the font pack? |
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| 16:13:48 | barrywardell | jocke1s: try putting it into disk mode - hold select + play as you turn it on |
| 16:15:24 | jocke1s | ok i'll try that |
| 16:16:23 | jocke1s | Ok my computer just says it wont recognize the unit |
| 16:17:44 | Captian_Seawench | i can't find the fonts package |
| 16:17:55 | Captian_Seawench | i think i may be blind |
| 16:18:00 | Captian_Seawench | :-S |
| 16:18:06 | Captian_Seawench | anyone help? |
| 16:18:12 | jocke1s | And when I boot into original firmware its the same. Can it maybe be a bad connection? |
| 16:18:29 | nls | Captian_Seawench, http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml last in the table |
| 16:18:55 | Captian_Seawench | ok |
| 16:19:01 | Captian_Seawench | thx alot |
| 16:19:40 | tomek__ | I madea big mess on my ipod... :( |
| 16:20:57 | barrywardell | jocke1s: if you can put it into disk mode and the computer still won't recognise it, then it's likely a problem with either the connection or the computer |
| 16:21:11 | tomek__ | is it possible to restore the system without itunes (i don't have windows)? |
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| 16:25:11 | jocke1s | barrywardell: Thanks. I'll order a new usb connection. It seems to be the most plausible explanation. |
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| 16:25:41 | barrywardell | probably best to try it with a different computer first to see if that's the problem |
| 16:26:00 | jocke1s | I have tried 3 different windows computers and 1 linux |
| 16:27:04 | Soap | how many different cables have you tried jocke1s? |
| 16:27:22 | Soap | nvm |
| 16:27:38 | jocke1s | Soap: Only the one that was supplied. |
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| 16:43:31 | tomek__ | can I get some help for someone, please? |
| 16:43:39 | tomek__ | from |
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| 16:47:54 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation#Uninstallation_and_Upgrade_instr |
| 16:48:08 | barrywardell | that should explain it for you tomek__ |
| 16:53:52 | tomek__ | but this is for windows, isn't it? |
| 16:54:46 | tomek__ | i don't use windows |
| 16:55:53 | barrywardell | what do you use? |
| 16:56:06 | tomek__ | kubuntu linux |
| 16:56:17 | barrywardell | ipodpatcher works on linux too |
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| 16:57:50 | barrywardell | or maybe not... |
| 16:58:01 | BigMac | Alright hi |
| 16:58:23 | BigMac | I haven't touched the plugins in a long time on my 5g |
| 16:58:29 | BigMac | then i was bored this morning |
| 16:58:38 | BigMac | and I decided to play doom |
| 16:58:40 | barrywardell | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromLinux |
| 16:58:49 | barrywardell | step 3 will work |
| 16:59:05 | BigMac | But I turn it on, and there seems to be no backlight in doom anymore |
| 16:59:13 | tomek__ | i followed all the install instructions, but forgot to download bootloader-vide.bin |
| 16:59:20 | BigMac | so you can barely see anything |
| 16:59:20 | barrywardell | but make sure you use the original bootloader.bin |
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| 17:00:12 | tomek__ | I tryed |
| 17:00:18 | tomek__ | but, nothig |
| 17:00:20 | BigMac | Any idea what is wrong? |
| 17:00:50 | barrywardell | tomek__: you should be able to do "dd if=bootpartition.bin of=/dev/sda1" |
| 17:01:31 | barrywardell | if you have the bootpartition.bin file from step 2 |
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| 17:04:53 | tomek__ | yes, i have it |
| 17:05:23 | tomek__ | i did all the stuff from step 3 again... nothing changed |
| 17:06:19 | tomek__ | after this i deleted all and tryed again from the begining... |
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| 17:06:49 | tomek__ | and now I have a BIG mess now |
| 17:06:53 | barrywardell | are you sure your ipod is /dev/sda? |
| 17:07:06 | tomek__ | yes, sda |
| 17:07:18 | barrywardell | does your ipod still boot the original firmware? |
| 17:07:27 | tomek__ | not sdb (like in the instructions) |
| 17:07:55 | tomek__ | no, just "conect to itunes to restore" |
| 17:09:12 | tomek__ | maybe i have to restore the original firmware by itunes and try again from the begining... |
| 17:14:27 | barrywardell | have you put it into disk mode? |
| 17:15:11 | barrywardell | nvm |
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| 17:15:39 | barrywardell | you're probably best to try find a computer with itunes on it and restore then start again |
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| 17:19:43 | linuxstb | tomek__: Do you still have the _very first_ bootpartition.bin you created? |
| 17:23:14 | tomek__ | not the very first... |
| 17:24:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:24:40 | maedhros | quick: I'm installing rockbox on my 2G mini, when formatting under os x, is MS-DOS FS the same as FAT32? |
| 17:25:34 | tomek__ | thank you very much, I have to go out, now... |
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| 17:29:45 | Lear | Annoying... High-bitrate (256 kbits) iTunes AAC fails... Anyone knows if that used to work? |
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| 17:41:20 | Lear | Yep, it did (on target at least)... |
| 17:44:21 | jhMikeS | couldn't there be a version of the build server you can run on your own machine that will run through the builds like the web one does? This would help for checking every build before committing. Could even run on a personal web server. |
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| 17:51:29 | maedhros | any particular reason my bootpartition.bim is now a 100MB and increasing? when running diskdump? |
| 17:51:39 | maedhros | *bin^^ |
| 17:52:37 | maedhros | I have a feeling diskdump is dumping my whole 4GB HDD... |
| 17:52:40 | jhMikeS | interesting too that files are compiled in a bootloader build that shouldn't be like pcm_record.c |
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| 17:54:04 | maedhros | this is just going soooo wrong |
| 17:54:23 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: Is your ipod FAT32 or HFS format? |
| 17:54:35 | maedhros | its FAT32 |
| 17:54:48 | webguest26 | how long does it take for a user name to refresh if it says im already logged on? |
| 17:55:08 | webguest26 | i got disconnected |
| 17:55:34 | maedhros | 266MB, yeah, diskdump is just copying everything off it. |
| 17:55:51 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: Then stop it (CTRL+C). |
| 17:56:12 | maedhros | linuxstb_: already done |
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| 17:57:53 | linuxstb_ | Can you copy and paste the diskdump command you typed? |
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| 17:58:16 | maedhros | sure |
| 17:58:33 | maedhros | linuxstb_: ./diskdump -r /dev/disk2 bootpartition.bin |
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| 17:59:15 | linuxstb_ | And /dev/disk2 is definitely your ipod? |
| 17:59:24 | maedhros | yup |
| 17:59:58 | maedhros | [INFO] Reading partition table... |
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| 18:00:11 | O11|bed | Hey everyone |
| 18:00:16 | maedhros | gives me a size(MB) 3905 |
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| 18:00:25 | maedhros | can only be the ipod |
| 18:00:48 | O11 | I just wanted to quickly ask about how people organise their songs as I am reorganising my mp3s at the moment.. |
| 18:00:58 | jhMikeS | linuxstb_: I that the warning in screens.c what you've been concerning with (I WAS you right?) |
| 18:01:06 | O11 | what't best format to have the track number in in the tag? |
| 18:01:17 | O11 | 01, 02, 03 or 1, 2, 3? |
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| 18:01:30 | O11 | which one plays in the correct order? |
| 18:01:31 | San2 | 01, 02 |
| 18:01:33 | San2 | etc |
| 18:01:36 | O11 | ok |
| 18:01:51 | O11 | San2: how do you do your filenames? |
| 18:02:00 | O11 | 01. songname.mp3? |
| 18:02:10 | jhMikeS | mirak: how goes it? |
| 18:02:18 | San2 | music/artist/album/01 songname.mp3 |
| 18:02:28 | mirak | jhMikeS: hi |
| 18:02:30 | mirak | jhMikeS: ffmpeg ? |
| 18:02:37 | O11 | San2: nice.. thanks.. |
| 18:02:54 | jhMikeS | mirak: ffmpeg ? Any progress? |
| 18:02:54 | linuxstb_ | jhMikeS: That sentence didn't make any sense... |
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| 18:03:18 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: And the first partition is shown at around 80MB? |
| 18:03:26 | maedhros | linuxstb_: is there something wrong with the partitioning? |
| 18:03:28 | mirak | jhMikeS: I didn't touched it much, but I am in the process of stripping down the PC version. |
| 18:03:34 | jhMikeS | Is is that warning in screens.c on H300? You were talking about the bitmap formats |
| 18:03:36 | maedhros | yeah, what's that about? |
| 18:03:48 | jhMikeS | /Is is/Is it |
| 18:03:49 | maedhros | i'm starting to think i'm missing a partition |
| 18:04:11 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 18:04:11 | * | jhMikeS is having a terrible time typing today |
| 18:04:15 | maedhros | disk utility tells me I only got _one_ partition on the disk |
| 18:04:28 | O11 | San: what about track and album names..? do you have each word with a capital letter? |
| 18:04:57 | [San] | yes |
| 18:05:00 | O11 | ..even its and ands..? |
| 18:05:20 | mirak | jhMikeS: if you are interested I can post the tarball on the tracker, so anybody interested can strip it a bit when he have time |
| 18:05:34 | O11 | [San]: thanks =) |
| 18:05:58 | [San] | depends, if it is a long song name and it has its and ands in it they will be lowercase, but in a short songname they would be uppercase |
| 18:06:11 | jhMikeS | mirak: yeah stripping sounds good when you're not strapped :) I'm neck deep in recording atm. :P |
| 18:06:28 | mirak | jhMikeS: actually the problem of ffmpeg is how the libavutil is designed and how mpeg codecs are using it. |
| 18:06:29 | linuxstb_ | jhMikeS: Yes. My proposed fix was to change all the lcd_*_bitmap functions (mono, native, main LCD, remote LCD) to have the same prototype (using void* for the bitmap), but amiconn didn't like that idea. |
| 18:06:48 | jhMikeS | linuxstb_: why? |
| 18:07:05 | linuxstb_ | I'm not sure. |
| 18:07:40 | jhMikeS | If you give it the wrong data it just won't work and you'll know to fix it immediately...so I don't see much problem |
| 18:08:08 | mirak | jhMikeS: some functions are common to all mpeg decoders, and the methods from libavutil are choosed at run time according to the codec class. |
| 18:08:35 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: That's normal for disk utility to think there's only one partition. Technically it's correct, the first partition (containing the ipod firmware) is marked as type 0, which means "Empty". That's why diskdump is needed - it lets you read/write that partition. |
| 18:08:39 | jhMikeS | mirak: codec class? you mean MPEG1/MPEG2 etc? |
| 18:09:34 | maedhros | linuxstb_: but diskdump obviously doesn't do that... |
| 18:09:38 | mirak | jhMikeS: hum, wider than that. h261,h262,h263,h264, all microsoft codecs, wma and such. |
| 18:09:52 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: For you, no. But afaik, it's worked for everyone else... |
| 18:10:13 | linuxstb_ | How did you convert your ipod to FAT32? |
| 18:10:13 | O11 | does anyone use Mp3tag? |
| 18:10:34 | maedhros | and the one partition that shows up in disk util takes all the space of the disk... |
| 18:10:45 | O11 | I can't get freedb to work....... =( |
| 18:11:00 | jhMikeS | mirak: that's the "etc." part :) |
| 18:11:01 | maedhros | linuxstb_: using disk util to format... |
| 18:11:05 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: Does diskdump list one or two partitions? |
| 18:11:16 | maedhros | linuxstb_: Only the one |
| 18:11:29 | linuxstb_ | Then you didn't follow the conversion instructions... |
| 18:11:46 | mirak | jhMikeS: so you can have a macroblock decoding method common to all codecs, and with a bunch of if then else all refering to a different method inside libavutil struct. |
| 18:12:24 | maedhros | linuxstb_: what instrucions... ? |
| 18:12:43 | mirak | so just commenting unused ifthenelse is not even enough, you need also to strip down libavutil struct. |
| 18:12:43 | linuxstb_ | The ones in the wiki on the Mac OS X installation page. |
| 18:13:11 | * | jhMikeS is sitting compiling his patch on about a dozen configuration...*yawn* |
| 18:13:48 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: I'm guessing your ipod doesn't work at the moment either? |
| 18:14:04 | maedhros | linuxstb_: don't really know, havent tried |
| 18:14:08 | maedhros | linuxstb_: anyway, would it work to manually make an "empy" partition |
| 18:14:09 | mirak | jhMikeS: but it seems only rockbox devs have to complain of that. I think we are the only one to try to strip the code. They once suspected me of trying to steal ffmpeg code and break gpl licence |
| 18:14:44 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: If you can... Easiest way is just to download a ready-made partition table from that wiki page. |
| 18:15:11 | maedhros | linuxstb_: mmkay, you have an url to that page? |
| 18:15:24 | jhMikeS | mirak: Does the license say it has to be complete? Isn't the corrent credit any inclusion of the GPL enough so that you are "free to modify"? |
| 18:15:29 | linuxstb_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
| 18:15:43 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: What instructions were you following? |
| 18:16:14 | jhMikeS | /corrent/correct /any/and |
| 18:16:33 | linuxstb_ | jhMikeS: The license is (I think) a mixture of GPL and LGPL, so it's fine for us to copy and paste parts of it into Rockbox. |
| 18:16:49 | maedhros | linuxstb_: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodmini2g/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-100002.2.2 |
| 18:17:12 | * | jhMikeS is wondering if there's any way to make make make warnings errors |
| 18:18:02 | jhMikeS | that's the first sentence I've typed correctly all day =:) ^^ |
| 18:18:03 | O11 | [San]: do you have cover art in your album folder? |
| 18:18:05 | linuxstb_ | maedhros: OK - more info is obviously needed there (as the second note says). |
| 18:19:00 | O11 | [San]: and if you do what do you call your image file? |
| 18:20:10 | O11 | and what's the Finder.dat file? |
| 18:20:27 | mirak | jhMikeS: I have no idea. Some guy just went a bit paranoid and didn't liked I was saying that ffmpeg was badly designed if you want to have small code out of it. |
| 18:20:42 | mirak | jhMikeS: I mean small binary. |
| 18:22:04 | mirak | jhMikeS: idealy we shouldn't need to modify the code, but that's not how it is :D |
| 18:24:05 | preglow | jhMikeS: -Werror? |
| 18:24:22 | maedhros | linuxstb_: ty, used the bin-image, seems to be going better. gonna follow the wiki-guide now... |
| 18:24:49 | O11 | anybody know? |
| 18:24:53 | jhMikeS | preglow: if it would pass that throught make -Werror would be cool |
| 18:25:16 | linuxstb_ | O11: I think you just call it "cover.bmp" |
| 18:25:20 | jhMikeS | mirak: just cause you bruised his ego or something? |
| 18:26:08 | jhMikeS | iPod-video is giving me a "no rule to make button-target.h" |
| 18:26:42 | jhMikeS | iPod went to the target tree didn't it? |
| 18:26:45 | mirak | jhMikeS: well, that's a part of it, but he just didn't understood we could need to have really small binary code. |
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| 18:27:05 | O11 | linuxstb_: when I used the automatic tagging thing in Mp3tag it asked if I wanted to put the cover art in the tag.. I said yes.. is that actually possible? |
| 18:27:17 | [San|] | hhhm, did I ping? |
| 18:27:32 | preglow | mirak: i think ffmpeg is actually working on modularising the code so that you can exclude all codecs you don't want to |
| 18:27:35 | preglow | which will be sweet |
| 18:28:01 | jhMikeS | When we have 2.4Ghz portable player with 300GB hard drives and 1GB of fast burst mode RAM it won't matter much! :) |
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| 18:28:29 | O11 | [San]: do you know what the finder.dat file is? "when I used the automatic tagging thing in Mp3tag it asked if I wanted to put the cover art in the tag.. I said yes.. is that actually possible?" |
| 18:28:37 | mirak | jhMikeS: that's just not how they intent ffmpeg to be used for. in fact only the core mpeg video part is really compact. I am not sure if it's a relic of the originating code. The other codecs, like vorbis and most of the other codecs etcetera are not as much imbricated, and the make file just simply don't build the object file. |
| 18:29:16 | linuxstb_ | mirak: ffmpeg's aim is to reuse as much code as possible. Which for them is good, but for us is bad... |
| 18:29:34 | barrywardell | jhMikeS: yes, I moved the iPod into the target tree, in target/ipod |
| 18:29:42 | jhMikeS | fork fork fork |
| 18:31:16 | mirak | linuxstb_: yes. I think though with ifdefs they could for exemple reference in the structs in libavutil only the methods used by the codecs needed. |
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| 18:31:57 | mirak | well it wouldn't be enough, since object code would be built ... |
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| 18:34:11 | Captain_A | Anyone know if apples warranty covers LCD damage |
| 18:34:17 | Captain_A | not physical damage |
| 18:34:38 | Captain_A | but things like blobs of like grey colors |
| 18:34:43 | jhMikeS | metaphysical damage yes |
| 18:34:57 | Captain_A | Ok |
| 18:35:08 | Captain_A | so what would I need to get one back |
| 18:35:38 | jhMikeS | Captain_A: don't listen to me...I'm being smartass :) |
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| 18:37:16 | Captain_A | aww |
| 18:37:22 | dimatter | lo all. |
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| 18:38:09 | jhMikeS | Captain_A: suppose you could read the warranty |
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| 18:38:31 | dimatter | where does rockbox read cover art ? as in , should it be a .jpg file within the dir or cover.bmp/cover.jpg or song_name.jpg ? .... |
| 18:39:23 | nls | rockbox doesn't read cover art |
| 18:39:33 | Captain_A | cover.bmp if you have the patch applied |
| 18:39:58 | dimatter | and it's going to be for the whole folder , ye ? |
| 18:40:04 | jhMikeS | I like that patch...why's it not in CVS or some version of it? |
| 18:40:06 | Captain_A | yessuh |
| 18:40:23 | Captain_A | because there is still some kinks in it supposedly |
| 18:40:51 | jhMikeS | hmmm...sounds like a project if I have the time :) |
| 18:41:43 | Davide-NYC | Any changes in the AAC or WMA codec of late? |
| 18:41:46 | dimatter | why cant it just read the covers from mp3's like iTunes does >:( |
| 18:42:00 | jhMikeS | it's not iTunes? |
| 18:42:07 | Davide-NYC | nobody has done the work |
| 18:42:18 | jhMikeS | iBox |
| 18:42:20 | linuxstb_ | The Apple firmware doesn't read from tags either. |
| 18:42:21 | nls | jhMikeS, the current patch allocates a buffer for the covers even if it isn't used and thus eats a bit of audio buffer for everyone, the plan is to put all metadata and covers in the audio buffer iirc |
| 18:42:50 | linuxstb_ | nls: Are you sure it still does that? |
| 18:43:14 | nls | no, but that's what i've heard |
| 18:43:19 | * | Davide-NYC wonder why anyone cares about covers at all |
| 18:43:25 | nls | from tou probably ;-) |
| 18:43:31 | jhMikeS | nls: is the structure of the audiobuffer still "shaky"...rather I mean no consistent way to define its contents? |
| 18:43:31 | nls | tou/you |
| 18:43:56 | linuxstb_ | I think that's how the first version worked, but now it's more memory efficient. |
| 18:44:23 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: I like pretty graphics. I would like to add some real color to the color ports. |
| 18:44:25 | nls | with full metadata on buffer? |
| 18:44:41 | jhMikeS | There shoul be headers describin each element |
| 18:44:42 | linuxstb_ | I see any major reasons against committing the album art patch itself. The problem is that it now relies on a bitmap resizing patch which isn't ready for CVS. |
| 18:44:50 | Davide-NYC | I guess I'm just a miserable minimalist |
| 18:45:42 | jhMikeS | Make a parakeet not a sparrow :P |
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| 18:46:31 | dimatter | what about video-playback ? are there video codecs as well as audio ? |
| 18:46:46 | jhMikeS | dimatter: not as of yet |
| 18:46:52 | dimatter | =( |
| 18:47:25 | jhMikeS | dimatter: video's no small feat on some players. ask mirak |
| 18:48:07 | * | jhMikeS is suprised he can record files faster than they can play back :) |
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| 18:49:52 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: how is the recording patch coming? |
| 18:49:53 | jhMikeS | nls: what do you mean "full metadata" anyway? |
| 18:50:18 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Sitting here compiling for a lot of player to make sure it's ok before posting |
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| 18:51:05 | jhMikeS | I haven't done cvs up today and always fear the worst when I'm about to |
| 18:51:24 | Davide-NYC | when was the last time you did a cvs up? |
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| 18:51:49 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: two days? |
| 18:52:04 | jhMikeS | here it goes... |
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| 18:52:40 | jhMikeS | no conflict...whew |
| 18:52:40 | * | Davide-NYC crosses fingers |
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| 18:53:31 | jhMikeS | I want to put most of that pcm_record.c code into a middle layer and leave the DMA stuff in pcm_record.c for the purpose of having a recording callback interface...full duplex and all |
| 18:53:56 | linuxstb | Shouldn't the DMA stuff be moved into target/coldfire ? |
| 18:54:01 | jhMikeS | But that's for a little later :) Next move |
| 18:54:14 | linuxstb | And the generic stuff kept in pcm_record.c ? |
| 18:54:41 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: probably...it should be an input version of pcm_playback.c |
| 18:54:57 | linuxstb | pcm_playback.c could do with a similar split as well... |
| 18:56:10 | preglow | indeed |
| 18:56:43 | * | linuxstb wonders if Rockbox will be around when he retires... |
| 18:58:40 | jhMikeS | maybe just have pcm.c that does the basic tranferring of audio? |
| 18:59:00 | Rincewind | if there are DAPs there will be rockbox :-) |
| 18:59:56 | jhMikeS | If I'm daring enough I might get voice running during recoring itself...hmmm |
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| 19:00:02 | preglow | linuxstb: i'm just hoping to get filthy rich soon |
| 19:01:08 | jhMikeS | preglow: If it has anything to do with what I'm doing pleeeeeeease send a check my way? 0:-) |
| 19:01:09 | linuxstb | preglow: Good luck with that. |
| 19:01:55 | Rincewind | hm, I get a strange error message with cvs up: "cvs: cannot WSACleanup: WinSock was not initialized" |
| 19:02:15 | Rincewind | can someone say what this is about? |
| 19:02:18 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: I guess I post the update in a couple if you want to play around |
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| 19:03:07 | * | jhMikeS is gonna double-check that |
| 19:03:41 | linuxstb | Rincewind: Have you asked google? Sounds like a windows networking problem. |
| 19:04:26 | preglow | we need to switch to svn before i explode from all this confusion when i type 'svn commit' in rockbox and don't udnerstand why it doesn't work!!!"# |
| 19:04:51 | amiconn | evenin' |
| 19:04:54 | jhMikeS | I think setting the WSPLL will be enough if the datasheet is informative enough |
| 19:05:22 | jhMikeS | amiconn: gutenabent =) |
| 19:05:44 | Rincewind | you mean guten Abend ^^ |
| 19:06:09 | ender` | preglow: alias svnc="if [ -d CVS ]; then cvs commit; elif [ -d .svn ]; then svn commit; else echo what; fi |
| 19:06:16 | linuxstb | Anyone know if pointer arithmetic on void* pointers is legal C? gcc doesn't complain, and appears to treat them the same as char*. |
| 19:06:17 | jhMikeS | ahh...my Deutch is practilly nonexistent :) |
| 19:06:29 | preglow | amiconn: got some wavs of of resampling here |
| 19:06:37 | preglow | amiconn: they do a pretty good job |
| 19:06:53 | jhMikeS | preglow: resampling with what? |
| 19:06:57 | amiconn | linuxstb: pointer arithmetic on void* is a gcc extension |
| 19:07:00 | Rincewind | nice to see something vagualy familiar here, though :) |
| 19:07:01 | jhMikeS | mit was? |
| 19:07:01 | preglow | jhMikeS: OF, retailos |
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| 19:07:46 | amiconn | They clearly state it in the gcc manual |
| 19:07:47 | jhMikeS | wish we could all have 32000 for FM Radio recording |
| 19:07:56 | Rincewind | ah, cvs update is working now! It just needs a few minutes before anything happens |
| 19:08:06 | amiconn | Hmm, speaking about FM radio, who did the region patch again? |
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| 19:08:20 | skruwilus | is the rockboy avalible for the iaudio? |
| 19:08:26 | amiconn | There's a bug, FM radio doesn't remember the station anymore |
| 19:08:27 | nls | amiconn, bluebrother did |
| 19:08:42 | amiconn | At least on Ondio FM and X5 |
| 19:08:51 | linuxstb | amiconn: Thanks. So it's probably a bad thing to do... |
| 19:08:59 | jhMikeS | amiconn: For me I had to have the correct region selected cause it would forget if your station wasn't in the current region |
| 19:09:10 | skruwilus | and are there non offical plugins? |
| 19:09:18 | skruwilus | if so then where? |
| 19:09:18 | Davide-NYC | back, was on the phone |
| 19:09:20 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The region is correct |
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| 19:09:50 | jhMikeS | hmmm..then...I switched to USA/Canada from Europe and it remembered |
| 19:10:13 | skruwilus | anyone? |
| 19:10:27 | Davide-NYC | hey, could it be that a H1x0 and a H3x0 have different boost ratios for the same track? |
| 19:10:27 | jhMikeS | beuhler, beuhler? |
| 19:10:29 | skruwilus | rockbox and more plugins, is that possible for the iaudio? |
| 19:10:41 | amiconn | I am using Europe (of course), and it didn't remember the selected frequency. Tried several times, and pixelma did the same |
| 19:10:44 | preglow | Davide-NYC: get my message? i don't need you to record anything anymore |
| 19:10:44 | Davide-NYC | skruwilus: I do not think so |
| 19:10:52 | amiconn | Davide-NYC: Yes, sure |
| 19:10:56 | Davide-NYC | preglow: I didn;t |
| 19:10:57 | skruwilus | Davide-NYC: about what? |
| 19:10:58 | Davide-NYC | OK |
| 19:11:03 | preglow | Davide-NYC: now you did :) |
| 19:11:08 | amiconn | Boost ratio on H300 will be slightly higher |
| 19:11:09 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Then I guess the problems vary with region |
| 19:11:14 | preglow | hope you didn't go to any trouble |
| 19:11:15 | Davide-NYC | what is the verdict? |
| 19:11:17 | Rincewind | skruwilus: to add unofficial plugins you need to find them in the patch tracker and compile the rockbox source with them |
| 19:11:18 | Davide-NYC | Not yet |
| 19:11:27 | preglow | Davide-NYC: verdict is iriver do a good job |
| 19:11:33 | preglow | a better one than i would have expected |
| 19:11:42 | skruwilus | Rincewind: oh, so there are no precompiled ones then? |
| 19:11:44 | Davide-NYC | it's the best DAP ever |
| 19:11:45 | preglow | and i don't think we have enough cpu to do an equally good job |
| 19:11:57 | Davide-NYC | how is that possible? |
| 19:12:09 | preglow | our decoders aren't as fast as theirs |
| 19:12:14 | skruwilus | so the only good plugin is doom? |
| 19:12:16 | skruwilus | heh |
| 19:12:39 | Rincewind | no, because the plugins have to be compiled with the version of rockbox they are runnin with . |
| 19:12:47 | preglow | anyway, i need to go beat myself in the face with a stick |
| 19:12:48 | preglow | brb |
| 19:12:49 | skruwilus | ah ok |
| 19:12:51 | amiconn | petur: What irq handler did you want to install exactly? |
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| 19:13:01 | linuxstb | skruwilus: And there are also about 20 different players Rockbox runs on... |
| 19:13:08 | amiconn | Perhaps the interrupt isn't reserved with weak aliasing... |
| 19:13:14 | skruwilus | players? |
| 19:13:20 | linuxstb | So it's easier for people to just submit them to Rockbox for inclusion. |
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| 19:13:31 | Rincewind | skruwilus: have you tried solitaire or tetrox? |
| 19:13:39 | skruwilus | yeah i have |
| 19:13:40 | linuxstb | skruwilus: Different makes and models of MP3 players... |
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| 19:13:48 | skruwilus | ah yeah |
| 19:13:55 | skruwilus | no i dont mean it sucks or anything |
| 19:13:55 | Rincewind | jewels is great, too |
| 19:14:04 | skruwilus | its better then the orginal firmware |
| 19:14:14 | * | petur discovers the notification of his irc client no longer works |
| 19:14:14 | skruwilus | some bugs here and there still very good |
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| 19:14:28 | petur | amiconn: GPI5 |
| 19:14:37 | skruwilus | what about the gameboy thing |
| 19:14:38 | lamed | hello |
| 19:14:39 | amiconn | Hmm, lemme check |
| 19:14:44 | skruwilus | is that not avalible for iaudio? |
| 19:14:45 | Davide-NYC | I've been looking for an iTunes encoder that does not require me to install iTunes (to generate AAC files for testing) does anyone know of such a beast? |
| 19:15:25 | linuxstb | skruwilus: No, I don't think anyone has adapted it for the X5's LCD and button layout yet. |
| 19:15:37 | skruwilus | aww |
| 19:15:40 | lamed | can the x5 amplify line in jack to microphone level? |
| 19:15:40 | skruwilus | same thing with doom |
| 19:15:49 | skruwilus | there are a fwe buttons you cannot map |
| 19:15:56 | skruwilus | i cannot strafe nor use the map |
| 19:16:00 | linuxstb | skruwilus: This page lists all the plugins, and which players they work on: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
| 19:16:14 | petur | amiconn: petur/isp1362.patch">http://users.telenet.be/petur/isp1362.patch |
| 19:17:09 | lamed | two questions about the iaudio x5: can the x5 amplify line in jack to microphone level?, and could you use the USBOTG to connect to mass storage devices such as players? (or is it somehow only allowed for cameras) |
| 19:17:09 | Davide-NYC | again: could it be that a H1x0 and a H3x0 have different boost ratios for the same track? Everything was done the same. THe only difference being the target. |
| 19:17:14 | * | jhMikeS wonders if a long record press might be used to flush all recorded data immediately. Don't know how it's assinged on other SWCODEC targets |
| 19:17:40 | Davide-NYC | please define "flush" for me. |
| 19:17:51 | petur | lamed: there's a lot of work that needs to be done for usbotg |
| 19:18:01 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: The two players use the same set_cpu_frequency function |
| 19:18:19 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Write the buffered data to disk |
| 19:18:38 | Davide-NYC | In what instance would this be useful?> |
| 19:18:40 | lamed | petur: on original fw |
| 19:19:09 | nls | Davide-NYC, the h300 has slower display updates |
| 19:19:09 | petur | lamed: usbotg should support UMS devices |
| 19:19:24 | Davide-NYC | nls: I suspect the display is the cause. |
| 19:19:33 | Davide-NYC | %5 diff in FLAC |
| 19:19:39 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: Battery going low...you don't wanna lose anything...paranoid...you recorded someone saying something that absolutely must not be lost. :) |
| 19:19:57 | Davide-NYC | I am currently of the opinion that that is overkill. |
| 19:20:12 | Davide-NYC | An auto-magic version of that would be cool, but not user instantiated |
| 19:20:20 | jhMikeS | It's so easy to do though...a keymap and a function call |
| 19:20:27 | lamed | pertur:hmm... but I just remembered iirc x5 isn't a dual boot. anyways, what about amplifying the line in level? |
| 19:20:37 | Davide-NYC | how a battery reading and function call? |
| 19:20:42 | petur | I think there's a patch for x5 dual-boot |
| 19:21:02 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: could queue that on interrupt |
| 19:21:26 | jhMikeS | The PMU gives warnings before shutting down iirc |
| 19:21:34 | lamed | ... and the other part of my question? (because I think it can't and I must make sure) |
| 19:21:59 | Davide-NYC | 'queue on interrupt' is currently over my head, but if it's a negligeable CPU hit I say do it and document it. Otherwise noone will know how cool it is. |
| 19:22:04 | Davide-NYC | Safety first! |
| 19:22:05 | petur | lamed: I don't know - don't have an x5 |
| 19:22:50 | jhMikeS | It has an option to start each file right away if you're paranoid instead of delaying it |
| 19:23:26 | Davide-NYC | you mean start writing each file to disk right away? |
| 19:23:27 | jhMikeS | Just thinking one step further though...we need options to have certain options |
| 19:24:21 | Davide-NYC | Useablility is important though. Too many option confuse people. I agree, an option for options would be a good compromise. |
| 19:24:33 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: As soon as the codec finishes the first chunk it flushes everything out to that first chunk which starts the file on disk |
| 19:24:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:24:49 | lamed | 10x. I guess it can't beacuse otherwise they would have state this off. I'm just trying to decide between x5, h3x0 and ipod now that my h120 is dead. (hd) I think h340 is the best although a bit humongous, but too expensive. (anyone found any good deal on thouse?) |
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| 19:24:53 | jhMikeS | Rockbox beginner mode/advanced mode? |
| 19:25:14 | jhMikeS | I say do wizard dialogues? heh |
| 19:25:41 | Davide-NYC | Do we have a map of all the menus? |
| 19:25:56 | Davide-NYC | Like a visual guide to the menu structure? |
| 19:26:11 | Davide-NYC | That would help me think. |
| 19:26:38 | Davide-NYC | Wait! I was supposed to propose something to you jhmikes. But I can;t remember what it was. Do you? |
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| 19:27:58 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: You're proposing to me ? ;P |
| 19:28:02 | Davide-NYC | LOL |
| 19:28:22 | * | Davide-NYC goes to the IRC logd |
| 19:28:25 | Davide-NYC | *logs |
| 19:28:32 | jhMikeS | I remember something |
| 19:28:41 | jhMikeS | patch going up |
| 19:28:57 | Captain_A | sweet |
| 19:29:04 | Captain_A | they put in the rockboy patch |
| 19:29:08 | Captain_A | woot |
| 19:29:15 | Davide-NYC | it was this exact issue about too many options. The way to organized the diff encoding settings |
| 19:29:18 | Captain_A | I can now play pokemon |
| 19:29:23 | Captain_A | Yay nostalga |
| 19:29:29 | * | Davide-NYC urghh |
| 19:29:37 | Davide-NYC | just kidding |
| 19:29:40 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 19:30:50 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: What day was it? |
| 19:31:38 | Davide-NYC | 20061003 |
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| 19:31:43 | Davide-NYC | but I never came up with anything |
| 19:31:53 | Davide-NYC | so I still owe you a recording menu design |
| 19:32:00 | Davide-NYC | soon, I promise |
| 19:32:05 | jhMikeS | I still cant get away from the format dominating samplerates and channels otherwise you might have to change the format if you set the samplerate to something the current format can't handle...then what? |
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| 19:32:22 | Davide-NYC | I understand the limitations and constraints |
| 19:32:29 | Davide-NYC | It's just a presentation issue |
| 19:32:40 | Davide-NYC | again, let me think about it and I'll get back to you/. |
| 19:32:44 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 19:32:52 | amiconn | Davide-NYC: [19:17:10] <Davide-NYC> again: could it be that a H1x0 and a H3x0 have different boost ratios for the same track? <= [19:10:50] <amiconn> Davide-NYC: Yes, sure |
| 19:33:19 | jhMikeS | I hope it doesn't mean redoing absolutely everything from scratch! This has been worked on a couple months already! *crying* |
| 19:33:26 | Davide-NYC | no noa |
| 19:33:40 | Davide-NYC | just prob a matter of nesting a menu |
| 19:33:49 | Davide-NYC | is that impossible? |
| 19:33:54 | jhMikeS | No |
| 19:33:57 | Davide-NYC | K. |
| 19:33:59 | jhMikeS | Already am doing that |
| 19:34:03 | Davide-NYC | I gotta go |
| 19:34:06 | Davide-NYC | back later |
| 19:34:07 | jhMikeS | Cya |
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| 19:34:26 | amiconn | petur: What should that patch do? I see the important things are #if 0 'd |
| 19:34:41 | amiconn | ...and GPI5 disables itself on first call |
| 19:35:24 | amiconn | Hmm, and I wonder where interrupt controller 1 gets initialised |
| 19:35:37 | amiconn | ...i.e. where INTBASE gets set |
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| 19:40:59 | amiconn | petur: You are setting the wrong GPIO_INT_EN bits... |
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| 19:45:26 | petur | am I? |
| 19:45:54 | petur | I have no time atm, maybe later tonight |
| 19:46:29 | petur | and my client no longer notifies me when my nick is written :( |
| 19:49:35 | amiconn | petur: or_l(0xA000, &GPIO_INT_EN); /* GPI0 5 and 7 L-H (bits 5, 7) */ |
| 19:49:48 | amiconn | 0xA000 are *never* bits 5 and 7... |
| 19:52:03 | jhMikeS | petur: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6106 |
| 19:52:08 | jhMikeS | v2 |
| 19:52:10 | amiconn | But I also have the suspicion that Interrupt controller 1 isn't initialised |
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| 19:59:22 | jhMikeS | Is it possible to delete a comment from flyspray so I can combine it with a previous one? |
| 20:00 |
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| 20:00:36 | petur | you can edit it |
| 20:00:57 | petur | I mean, edit a comment |
| 20:01:23 | jhMikeS | I know I can edit...can I get rid of it by say making it empty? Id like it in the first list I posted. |
| 20:02:46 | petur | don't know, ask a flyspray guru ;) |
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| 20:03:54 | jhMikeS | blanking it makes it less noticeable...maybe I need greater privelidges :\ |
| 20:04:41 | Rincewind | If it just one comment, I could delete it for you |
| 20:05:10 | jhMikeS | 6106 - the last blank one...I guess they think I'm gonna go around deleting stuff or something :) |
| 20:05:14 | Rincewind | I have those privileges (although I don't need them normally) |
| 20:05:44 | jhMikeS | Thank would be nice - thanks |
| 20:05:52 | Rincewind | could you post a full link, I'm lazy :) |
| 20:05:59 | petur | amiconn: RE GPIO_INT_EN, the comment is wrong, I changed it afterwards to H->L |
| 20:06:09 | * | petur runs off for a while |
| 20:06:18 | petur | back in 30 min |
| 20:08:22 | Rincewind | jhMikeS: sorry I can't delete a comment, I can only edit comments and delete attachements |
| 20:09:23 | * | amiconn wonders why petur tries to wake up the ISP with reset... |
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| 20:11:34 | jhMikeS | Rincewind: same here |
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| 20:12:57 | Slasheri | http://bilder.vgb.no/9667/img_44441d3f4764e.jpg |
| 20:13:04 | Slasheri | hehe, that's quite useful indeed ;) |
| 20:13:12 | * | jhMikeS has a lot of anxiety about that sr switching for uda |
| 20:13:39 | linuxstb | Slasheri: :) |
| 20:14:00 | Rincewind | Slasheri: ^^ |
| 20:14:10 | Slasheri | :D |
| 20:14:11 | jhMikeS | I'd probably just that stuck in my nose somehow |
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| 20:16:14 | Genre9mp3 | Slasheri: It's nice for reboot! :) |
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| 20:17:21 | jhMikeS | Thought I burned up my x5 a couple time...once messing up the PLL settings and another forget to init something and scribbling all over memory...it got real warm and wouldn't start up for a minute or so. Reset didn't work either. It seems ok but damn I was worried. |
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| 20:23:44 | skruwilu1 | anyone who can help me? |
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| 20:24:02 | Rincewind | maybe, just ask |
| 20:24:45 | skruwilu1 | well i did |
| 20:24:59 | skruwilu1 | i changed a theme |
| 20:25:04 | skruwilu1 | or downloaded a theme |
| 20:25:09 | skruwilu1 | and when i tryed to use it |
| 20:25:14 | skruwilu1 | my i audio went all black |
| 20:25:18 | skruwilu1 | how do i change theme |
| 20:25:21 | skruwilu1 | are there any config files |
| 20:25:43 | linuxstb | You probably need to reset your settings - I think you hold RECORD as it's booting. |
| 20:25:51 | skruwilu1 | oh |
| 20:27:07 | skruwilu1 | thanx |
| 20:27:08 | skruwilu1 | :D |
| 20:27:09 | skruwilu1 | yay |
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| 20:39:20 | petur | amiconn: resetting it was my first try, of course there must be a nicer way. Just talking to it didn't help tho |
| 20:40:17 | amiconn | Guess why I put a todo there... |
| 20:40:40 | Rincewind | that would be a nice feature for our voice engine ^^ |
| 20:40:40 | amiconn | My driver doesn't set the otg wake up conditions |
| 20:40:54 | amiconn | Waking the DC isn't difficult |
| 20:41:13 | petur | re initing the interrupt controller, you mean the secondary, right? |
| 20:41:21 | amiconn | yes |
| 20:41:35 | amiconn | Where is INTBASE set? I didn't find it |
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| 20:41:39 | petur | we're interested in the HC of course |
| 20:42:38 | petur | \firmware\export\mcf5249.h(214):#define INTBASE (*(volatile unsigned char *)(MBAR2 + 0x16b)) |
| 20:42:54 | amiconn | Yes, but where is it set? |
| 20:43:03 | amiconn | That's just the definition |
| 20:43:07 | petur | ah yes |
| 20:43:14 | amiconn | crt0.S doesn't set it either |
| 20:43:25 | petur | hmmm... that must be it |
| 20:43:33 | amiconn | (where the #defines from mcf5249.h aren't used) |
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| 20:45:11 | amiconn | The default value for INTBASE is 0x00, meaning that a gpio 5 interrupt loads vector 37 (TRAP5) instead of the intended 64+37 (GPI5) |
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| 20:48:53 | * | petur finds the correct crt0.s :) |
| 20:49:27 | amiconn | ? |
| 20:49:38 | amiconn | firmware/target/coldfire |
| 20:49:43 | petur | didn't know it moved to target-tree |
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| 20:55:48 | Lear | Hmm... 44 kbps AAC sounds surprisingly good (apart from not being realtime). |
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| 20:58:26 | petur | amiconn: which coldfire datasheet contains the assembler overview? |
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| 21:00:13 | petur | amiconn: nevermind, got it |
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| 21:14:47 | petur | amiconn: why the +1 in move.l #MBAR2+1,%d0 ? |
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| 21:16:30 | * | amiconn points petur to MCF5249.pdf pages 9-4..9-6 (138..140) |
| 21:16:51 | * | petur starts reading |
| 21:17:19 | petur | sorry for being a beginner re assembly and low level programming |
| 21:17:49 | amiconn | In short: bit 0 is the validity bit and must be set |
| 21:18:11 | petur | thanks |
| 21:18:42 | petur | ok, now I see it... |
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| 21:31:27 | [IDC]Dragon | hello Rockbox, quiet tonight... ;-) |
| 21:35:57 | Moos | hello Mr. Dragoon |
| 21:36:17 | [IDC]Dragon | no oo |
| 21:36:27 | amiconn | Wow, Mr. [IDC]Dragon himself :) |
| 21:36:44 | [IDC]Dragon | yes! |
| 21:36:49 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens |
| 21:37:10 | [IDC]Dragon | how's the Ondio backlight? |
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| 21:42:19 | [IDC]Dragon | wrong question, amiconn seems to hide, sorry |
| 21:42:46 | pixelma | it's still... outside.. ;) |
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| 21:43:07 | [IDC]Dragon | so, prod him |
| 21:43:30 | preglow | amiconn: do you think resampling accuracy might be an option worth having? |
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| 21:44:24 | jhMikeS | preglow: why ask that question? ;) My ears crave antialiasing. |
| 21:44:41 | preglow | i can make a very slow resampler if i really want to, heh |
| 21:44:46 | preglow | battery might suffer |
| 21:45:00 | jhMikeS | why slow? What sort? |
| 21:45:43 | preglow | well, if i'm going to match what iriver does in their firmware and still want to maintain the flexibility we currently have, then it'll be slow |
| 21:45:52 | * | petur has a working GPI5 interrupt :o) |
| 21:45:58 | preglow | petur: what was wrong? |
| 21:45:59 | jhMikeS | is their's slow too? |
| 21:46:08 | preglow | jhMikeS: probably, it's a pretty long fir filter |
| 21:46:19 | petur | preglow: as amiconn said, intbase wasn't set |
| 21:46:32 | preglow | petur: i've got intbase set in my local tree :> |
| 21:46:32 | petur | so all vectors mapped to those of the primary controller |
| 21:46:33 | jhMikeS | What sort of ratios? |
| 21:46:35 | preglow | perhaps i should have commited that |
| 21:46:42 | petur | grrrr |
| 21:46:53 | preglow | i didn't really know if it works, though |
| 21:46:56 | preglow | what did you set it to? |
| 21:46:57 | Moos | preglow: little question: is it hard to code bass in software way ( I think to device like iaudios with no bass support hardware)? |
| 21:47:02 | petur | 64 |
| 21:47:12 | preglow | Moos: well, no |
| 21:47:16 | * | [IDC]Dragon suspends |
| 21:47:17 | preglow | Moos: there already is teh equaliser that does that |
| 21:47:31 | preglow | petur: then i should have commited it... |
| 21:47:39 | Moos | preglow: oh ok |
| 21:47:54 | preglow | Moos: if you mean ordinary bass boost control |
| 21:48:08 | preglow | i also set spurvec, i see |
| 21:48:33 | jhMikeS | preglow: It's a fir decimator? (I'll stop bugging :P) |
| 21:48:35 | Moos | are all those archoses bass option hardware? |
| 21:48:42 | preglow | jhMikeS: it is |
| 21:48:52 | preglow | Moos: archos can't do any sound stuff in software, so yes |
| 21:49:02 | Moos | silly me :) |
| 21:49:12 | preglow | jhMikeS: i mean fir interpolator |
| 21:49:17 | preglow | jhMikeS: for decimation it uses an iir filter |
| 21:49:54 | jhMikeS | ?? I thought you just upsampled with zeros in between or it's something else? |
| 21:50:14 | preglow | jhMikeS: well, that's one way of upsamling, but then you need a post-filter |
| 21:50:14 | petur | preglow: http://pastebin.ca/195066 |
| 21:51:26 | preglow | petur: not really necessary do do that in crt0, is it? |
| 21:51:28 | preglow | i do it in system.c |
| 21:51:39 | jhMikeS | yeah...but their using one for upsample another for downsample? |
| 21:51:41 | preglow | INTBASE = 64; SPURVEC = 1; |
| 21:51:47 | preglow | jhMikeS: indeed |
| 21:52:03 | petur | preglow: ok |
| 21:52:31 | preglow | petur: just thinking it's nice to not put something in asm unless you need to, but i don't know if you need to, so |
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| 21:52:51 | preglow | also, i don't know why i use 1 for SPURVEC :/ |
| 21:53:00 | amiconn | SPURVEC = 1 is probably a bad idea |
| 21:53:10 | * | petur looks up SPURVEC ;) |
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| 21:54:02 | amiconn | Vector 1 isn't a real exception vector, it's the start address |
| 21:54:45 | amiconn | So a spurious interrupt would reboot the device with no chance to get an idea why |
| 21:54:47 | preglow | isn't it offset by intbase? |
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| 21:55:36 | amiconn | Doesn't look like it |
| 21:56:03 | preglow | then it's obviously wrong, yes |
| 21:56:05 | amiconn | "The SPURVEC register contains the interrupt vector number that is fed when a spurious interrupt event occurs on the secondary interrupt controller." |
| 21:56:14 | petur | page 9-12 says it contains an interrupt vector number |
| 21:56:20 | petur | yes :) |
| 21:56:23 | amiconn | 'vector number' sounds like it's used verbatim |
| 21:56:32 | preglow | but spurvec should be set |
| 21:56:56 | petur | amiconn: don't think so, it's only 8 bit |
| 21:57:16 | preglow | petur: sorry for not commiting that :/ think i've had it hanging around since i did spdif recording |
| 21:57:47 | amiconn | petur: It's a vector into the table |
| 21:58:11 | petur | preglow: where do you configure it then? system_init() ? |
| 21:58:20 | preglow | petur: yup |
| 21:58:30 | petur | or do you want to commit it? |
| 21:58:41 | preglow | go ahead |
| 21:59:06 | amiconn | Looks like we should set SPURVEC = 24 |
| 21:59:30 | amiconn | irqname[] is "Spurious" |
| 21:59:38 | amiconn | *irqname[24] even |
| 21:59:59 | jhMikeS | All the vectors with names need their labels set. Not even divide by zero has a label like "divx0" |
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| 22:00:06 | petur | there's also a typo in irqname[] for GPI0 (it's GPIO0) |
| 22:00:47 | jhMikeS | petur: That's input-only |
| 22:01:20 | petur | i mean the GPI0 int vector |
| 22:01:35 | petur | GPI0, GPI1,... |
| 22:02:11 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Divide by zero will never fire on our coldfires |
| 22:02:22 | amiconn | It's only valid on fpu-equipped coldfires |
| 22:02:32 | jhMikeS | amiconn: it happened with wavpack |
| 22:02:41 | jhMikeS | It's #7 ? |
| 22:02:52 | amiconn | No, # 5 |
| 22:03:04 | amiconn | # 7 is reserved |
| 22:03:10 | jhMikeS | guess I forgot |
| 22:03:25 | petur | another q: if I implement GPI5, should I add extern void GPI5(void); above the table? or will the linker find the reference itself? |
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| 22:04:16 | amiconn | petur: Guess what default_interrupt (GPI5); does? |
| 22:04:19 | jhMikeS | Someone got it in wavpack and I looked it in the table and it was divx0...I also got a #7 in wavpack |
| 22:04:25 | amiconn | #define default_interrupt(name) \ |
| 22:04:25 | amiconn | extern __attribute__((weak,alias("UIE"))) void name (void) |
| 22:05:03 | petur | sorry, don't know the syntax |
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| 22:05:39 | Lear | Power outages are annoying... :) |
| 22:05:41 | jhMikeS | It's always Wavpack with the difficulties...grrr |
| 22:05:43 | amiconn | The purpose of default_interrupt() is to define the function as extern, with a weak alias to UIE() |
| 22:05:59 | petur | ok, thanks for explaining that |
| 22:06:14 | Quazgaa | why does anyone care about wavpack anyway |
| 22:06:15 | amiconn | So if some module defines GPI5(), it is used. Otherwise the pointer points to UIE() |
| 22:07:10 | Lear | Wavpack is nice. I use it for CD backups. |
| 22:07:15 | jhMikeS | Quazgaa: seems many like to use it |
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| 22:09:12 | jhMikeS | It records quite smoothly now with the patch but what a pain to do. You can record in rt what playback chokes on. : |
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| 22:12:25 | jhMikeS | What's it mean when you get I00? Initial stack pointer exception? Somehow doesn't make sense. |
| 22:12:57 | amiconn | I00 might be a spurious interrupt, as SPURVEC isn't set... |
| 22:13:27 | amiconn | Hmm, can't be |
| 22:13:40 | amiconn | In this case UIE() wouldn't be called... |
| 22:13:58 | jhMikeS | I've seen I00 alot at times |
| 22:14:21 | amiconn | I've seen it too |
| 22:18:10 | petur | ok if I commit setting intbase and spurvec? |
| 22:19:01 | jhMikeS | Wierd I did a deliberate /0 and get a PDIR2FULL |
| 22:19:11 | amiconn | Gah, the datasheets are clear as mud once more :( |
| 22:20:05 | jhMikeS | Wonder if I'll get something else in different context |
| 22:22:27 | amiconn | Hmm, typos in both MCF5249.pdf and SCF5250.pdf |
| 22:22:36 | amiconn | Other sources are more precise |
| 22:26:10 | jhMikeS | heh...messed-up datasheets. When will it end? *cough* |
| 22:27:10 | amiconn | I just wanted to double-check the vector readout in UIE(). Looks like it's correct |
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| 22:31:30 | jhMikeS | hmmm...always seem to get the PDIR2FULL when dividing by zero even if DMA isn't running. Must be "spurious". |
| 22:31:54 | petur | jhMikeS: try with new CVS code now |
| 22:33:11 | jhMikeS | arigh |
| 22:33:32 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I was wrong... integer division by zero does cause a divx0 exception... |
| 22:33:42 | jhMikeS | Why am I getting PDIR2FULL?!?? |
| 22:33:56 | Kalthare | I seem to have managed to get Rockbox working on my 5.5G.. |
| 22:34:09 | amiconn | PDIR2FULL is anothe roften-observed exception... |
| 22:34:27 | * | petur read that as 'rotten' |
| 22:34:48 | Soap | whoa Kalthare. |
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| 22:35:03 | amiconn | flip('r', ' ') |
| 22:35:05 | jhMikeS | I'm doing the divx0 without any DMA transfer start so...? |
| 22:35:32 | Kalthare | It sure ain't easy to set up. But I'm using an unmodified daily build. |
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| 22:35:54 | Soap | do tell |
| 22:37:53 | Kalthare | I formatted the FAT partition for 512-byte sectors. The Linux kernel can't access that, but mtools can, so I used that to load stuff onto the partition. Then I hex-edited the partition table, and made a new entry with quadrupled start and length values, so Rockbox could find it. And it works. |
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| 22:38:26 | Kalthare | Well, I'll test it more fully after I'm done loading my music onto it. |
| 22:38:37 | tidav | hi everyone |
| 22:39:34 | Kalthare | heya |
| 22:39:51 | tidav | i've just installed rockbox on a 5G ipod |
| 22:39:59 | tidav | but can't have my itrip work :( |
| 22:40:27 | tidav | i've found only one thread on forum, about this |
| 22:40:38 | tidav | seems itrip won't work, at least for now? |
| 22:41:21 | jhMikeS | Hmmmm...still PDIR2FULL when /0 |
| 22:42:25 | jhMikeS | at 00000000 btw |
| 22:42:39 | Kalthare | Dunno what the itrip is.. |
| 22:43:51 | tidav | dock connector to allow you to listen to your ipod on fm receiver |
| 22:44:36 | Kalthare | Hm. Well, I can't help with that, myself −− sorry. |
| 22:44:48 | tidav | thanks anyway |
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| 22:44:54 | tidav | i'll keep on searching on forums |
| 22:45:02 | tidav | :) |
| 22:45:39 | Soap | tidav - any accessory which uses more than the line-out, line-in, usb, or power from the dock connector won't work with rockbox. |
| 22:45:59 | tidav | ooh i see... thank you Soap |
| 22:46:20 | Soap | The serial accesory communications have not been implemented (or even reverse-engineered IIRC) |
| 22:46:49 | Soap | and I believe the itrip gets at least a "start" command from the ipod over the serial data link, if not more. |
| 22:47:09 | tidav | mmm... |
| 22:47:35 | tidav | ok then... |
| 22:47:42 | tidav | maybe in the future |
| 22:47:48 | tidav | i guess i'll juste have to wait |
| 22:48:03 | tidav | thanks a lot for all this infos |
| 22:48:19 | tidav | (and sorry for my bad bad english :)) |
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| 22:48:36 | tidav | have to go now; see ya all |
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| 22:49:31 | jhMikeS | pizza time... |
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| 22:58:40 | Kalthare | So I guess my solution isn't really useful except that it shows that the sector size really is the only problem. |
| 22:59:03 | Soap | is your solution repeatable? |
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| 22:59:25 | Kalthare | I don't see why it wouldn't be. |
| 22:59:34 | amiconn | Kalthare: Do you know whether windows can access the specially perepared partition? |
| 22:59:35 | Soap | then it sounds useful to me. |
| 22:59:51 | Kalthare | amiconn: Haven't tried yet. |
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| 23:04:20 | Kalthare | Nope. Windows says it's not formatted. |
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| 23:10:49 | Kalthare | Really, I don't think this brings us any closer to a general solution. |
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| 23:19:49 | amiconn | Kalthare: It does at least tell that the virtual sector size is indeed the only problem |
| 23:20:06 | amiconn | Can you actually play music (transferred with mtools)? |
| 23:20:50 | Kalthare | amiconn: Yeah. It's working fine. Menu seems sluggish, but that's the new scheduler, right? |
| 23:22:14 | Paul_the_Nerd | Most likely |
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| 23:39:07 | petur | jhMikeS: your recording patch doesn't apply to current CVS |
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| 23:46:25 | pepie34 | hi |
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| 23:46:56 | pepie34 | I have understand that the rock format file is a elf binary? |
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| 23:47:21 | Kitt0s | elf? |
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| 23:47:41 | pepie34 | I mistake? |
| 23:48:02 | pepie34 | elf like elf, coff, pe, mach-o... |
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| 23:48:11 | petur | I don't thinks so |
| 23:48:26 | amiconn | .rock (and .codec) are raw binaries, with a lttle header |
| 23:48:36 | amiconn | elf would be major overkill |
| 23:48:45 | pepie34 | why? |
| 23:48:56 | pepie34 | dimension |
| 23:48:58 | pepie34 | ? |
| 23:49:13 | pepie34 | on ti92, we used coff |
| 23:49:19 | amiconn | (1) rockbox doesn't have (and doesn't want) dynamic memory allocation |
| 23:49:41 | pepie34 | so we can do dynamic linking |
| 23:49:59 | amiconn | (2) Handling .elf would be very complex |
| 23:50:13 | pepie34 | (not shared library just dynamic link with relocation process) |
| 23:50:13 | amiconn | We don't do and don't need dynamic linking |
| 23:50:24 | amiconn | Rockbox isn't linux, and doesn't want to be |
| 23:50:26 | pepie34 | well... |
| 23:50:53 | pepie34 | it is not about being linux... |
| 23:50:53 | amiconn | Well, perhaps we'll do relocation, one day... |
| 23:51:02 | pepie34 | it is just for relocation |
| 23:51:24 | pepie34 | it will simpler for example for plugins |
| 23:51:33 | amiconn | why? |
| 23:51:44 | pepie34 | (you don't have to pass the whole plugin api on a struct |
| 23:51:45 | amiconn | Imho it can't get any more simple than loading to a fixed address |
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| 23:52:32 | pepie34 | and you can't have plugin exposing a new api to other plugin |
| 23:52:35 | amiconn | What does the plugin api have to do with the plugin loader? |
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| 23:53:27 | amiconn | No, you can't run 2 plugins at once anyway, and I can't see how this would be possible without dynamic memory allcoation, which we don't do, and don't want |
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| 23:54:44 | pepie34 | if you can do relocation, you doesn't have to do the plugin_api struct things |
| 23:54:48 | amiconn | And btw, we don't pass the whole struct, just a pointer to it |
| 23:55:01 | amiconn | ????? |
| 23:55:16 | pepie34 | yes i know, but it makes the plugin writting quite ugly |
| 23:55:21 | Bagder | that's not just relocation you're talking about, but a full dynamic linking of symbols |
| 23:55:28 | pepie34 | no |
| 23:55:48 | pepie34 | I have mistaken about one plugin exposing api to an other plugin |
| 23:56:13 | amiconn | That's not possible, and not needed. I already said that |
| 23:56:15 | pepie34 | i was more talking for example about loading, say, a graphic library |
| 23:56:21 | amiconn | Only one plugin can be loaded at a time |
| 23:56:37 | pepie34 | if a plugin need it |
| 23:56:41 | Bagder | and we don't do shared libraries, we use static libs |
| 23:56:53 | pepie34 | this is not shared this is just relocation |
| 23:57:07 | Bagder | "loading, say, a graphic library" ? |
| 23:57:10 | Bagder | we do that already |
| 23:57:15 | Bagder | using static libs |
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| 23:57:40 | petur | we know everything at compile time already, no relocation required |
| 23:57:58 | Bagder | we waste some file space but gain simplicity |
| 23:58:07 | amiconn | petur: Well, we might want simple relocation to handle different memory sizes |
| 23:58:16 | pepie34 | let say i write a sdl library for games but i don't that code in the core firmware |
| 23:58:27 | Bagder | pepie34: again, we already have this |
| 23:58:35 | amiconn | (thinking ipod video 60GB vs. smaller models, and perhaps also archoses with 8MB mod) |
| 23:58:52 | amiconn | pepie34: Then you link it to the plugin(s) that use it, statically |
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