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| 00:12:01 | preglow | hcs: don't think so, no, but it does hang from time to time |
| 00:12:06 | preglow | then again, so does rockbox on my h120 |
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| 00:13:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | I haven't had a hang in a very long while, except with the NFS codec. |
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| 00:15:11 | petur | has been pretty stable here for some time -excep for crashes in my own code ;) |
| 00:16:37 | mirak | hi |
| 00:17:29 | Moos | salut |
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| 00:27:28 | * | birdfish just downloaded the latest daily for his x5 |
| 00:27:41 | birdfish | But where is the option to change the direction of the screen display |
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| 00:28:04 | PaulJam | try a cvs build |
| 00:28:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hm... is there something strange I might have to do to install make 3.81? I had kinda assumed it was just a ./configure, make, make install sorta dealy. |
| 00:28:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | Specifically in regards to the debian vmware image, that is. |
| 00:28:53 | birdfish | PaulJam: okay, but once I install the latest cvs, do you know where I would find the option to change the screen from displaying vertically to horizontally? |
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| 00:29:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | birdfish: A rotate is different from a flip |
| 00:29:45 | PaulJam | propably general settings => display => lcd settings (or similar) |
| 00:30:54 | birdfish | Paul_the_Nerd: tell me it does the rotate function please =) |
| 00:31:01 | birdfish | Paul_the_Nerd: flipping seems pointless |
| 00:31:25 | preglow | it doesn't rotate |
| 00:31:29 | birdfish | bah |
| 00:31:31 | preglow | rotate would need far more code than a flip |
| 00:31:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | flipping is something the LCD itself can do at no real cost, so you can just ask it the right way. |
| 00:31:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | If I understand alright |
| 00:31:56 | * | birdfish wonders what benefit a flip would provide for the x5? |
| 00:32:18 | preglow | the same as for all other targets? |
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| 00:33:09 | birdfish | preglow: excellently troll responce =) |
| 00:33:28 | * | birdfish supposes it's just a function to show off the ability that it can be done... |
| 00:33:43 | Paul_the_Nerd | Some people prefer their controls above the screen. |
| 00:33:44 | * | Paul_the_Nerd shrugs |
| 00:33:45 | scorche | it is handy when it is in, say, your pocket |
| 00:34:02 | scorche | and you dont haVE TO TAKE THE DEVICE OUT AND TURN IT AROUND |
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| 00:34:06 | scorche | errr...yeah |
| 00:34:08 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 00:34:30 | * | Paul_the_Nerd wonders if there's a flip for the H100 LCD remote. |
| 00:34:38 | petur | scorCHE |
| 00:34:56 | scorche | mahnA MAHNA |
| 00:35:14 | petur | argh |
| 00:36:08 | * | petur gives up programming after drinking beer |
| 00:36:09 | Genre9mp3 | too too toorooroo! |
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| 00:36:43 | scorche | i think of it more as doo doooooo doo doo doo |
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| 00:38:14 | preglow | birdfish: yes, i'd be the great troll in here |
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| 00:46:46 | birdfish | preglow: Just drop it dude. I realize you're a regular here. But I didn't ask for a response from someone wanting to act like a jerk. If you didn't want to help out, you should have just kept quiet. |
| 00:48:03 | preglow | birdfish: i didn't want to act like a jerk, i just think it's pretty obvious |
| 00:48:22 | birdfish | If it was obvious to me I wouldn't have asked ;) |
| 00:48:38 | birdfish | I don't carry my player in my pocket too often |
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| 00:49:58 | preglow | also, you asked the question as if the x5 might somehow have less use for the feature than other targets |
| 00:50:02 | preglow | but anyway, let's forget this |
| 00:50:23 | birdfish | great idea =) |
| 00:50:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | JdGordon: Actually, the Unsupported Builds section is only for announcing new builds. That thread really doesn't belong *anywhere* |
| 00:50:37 | JdGordon | oh.. ok |
| 00:50:49 | JdGordon | sorry :p |
| 00:50:56 | roolku | before a fight breaks out: if it is anything like on the h120, the option General/Display/LCD Setting/Upside down does not flip (i.e. mirror) the display but rotates it 180 degrees |
| 00:51:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | JdGordon: No worries. I was gonna delete the thread anyway, but figured I'd wait a little bit and see if someone might throw the guy a bone. |
| 00:51:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | I really don't like the idea of people requesting unsupported builds anyway. |
| 00:52:04 | birdfish | roolku: no fight is about to break out. everything has been resolved. but I think a flip is a 180 degree rotation |
| 00:52:11 | roolku | I do however not know if the comitted feature "X5 can flip the display." is something completely different |
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| 00:53:33 | birdfish | It's cool dude. I was mainly interested in the patch in the first place, because I had hoped that it would rotate 90 degrees so as to display (possibly) more information on the screen at once |
| 00:53:39 | roolku | then I don't understand preglow: "<preglow> rotate would need far more code than a flip" |
| 00:53:44 | birdfish | However "little" more information that would have been |
| 00:53:44 | * | Paul_the_Nerd thinks it's really two flips, one across the X axis, and one across the Y. |
| 00:53:54 | preglow | roolku: i meant a something other than 180 degree rotation |
| 00:54:03 | preglow | roolku: like a 90 degree rotation, for example |
| 00:54:12 | preglow | the number of lines on the display would change, as would the length of the lines |
| 00:54:15 | JdGordon | why do we need a y axis flip? |
| 00:54:25 | scorche | preglow: a 360 degree rotation would surely be difficult to code though... |
| 00:54:28 | preglow | JdGordon: if you want to hold the unit sideways? *shrug* |
| 00:54:31 | birdfish | wow, okay didn't mean to start this big debate over basic mathematics =P |
| 00:54:37 | preglow | i don't really know that part of the code well enough to tell you if it would be hard, though |
| 00:54:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | JdGordon: Because an X axis flip alone would leave everything reading right-to-left |
| 00:54:43 | JdGordon | preglow: isnt that 90/270 degree flip... |
| 00:54:45 | amiconn | Paul_the_Nerd: Yes, display flip mirros both X and Y |
| 00:54:46 | birdfish | Everythings cool now guys. I understand what's going on :) |
| 00:55:04 | amiconn | If it would flip only one of them, you would see a mirror image |
| 00:55:13 | preglow | indeed |
| 00:55:26 | preglow | lostlogic: awake? :> |
| 00:55:45 | amiconn | It's a feature that might only be used by a few people, but then it comes at (almost) no cost |
| 00:56:04 | preglow | i think supporting hardware features generally is a good thing |
| 00:56:32 | * | roolku is not quite sure anymore ;) |
| 00:56:34 | amiconn | The display controller does all the work, it's just a little extra code that allows to set this mode of operation |
| 00:56:57 | amiconn | Only on the ipod mini there's some extra processing necessary for doing the flip |
| 00:57:04 | roolku | okay the option upside down flips (i.e. mirrors) twice |
| 00:58:50 | amiconn | (because the display width is not an integer multiple of one pixel block, the pixels need to be shifted when flipping. But since the arm cpu seems to _love_ shifting, the extra cost isn't even measurable. Frame rates are identical for flipped vs. non-flipped.) |
| 00:59:17 | preglow | amiconn: the shift doesn't even cost anything if the shift amount is constant |
| 00:59:28 | preglow | costs one cycle if it's in a register, iirc |
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| 01:01:22 | lostlogic | preglow: ? |
| 01:01:25 | amiconn | It is constant. The decision whether to shift or not is done outside the loop (2 different loops) |
| 01:02:14 | preglow | lostlogic: yo, would you have any idea how it'd be possible to make the playback engine miscalculate buffer sizes or something when using the resampler? it seems to be doing so, and that's the cause of the clicks when upsampling |
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| 01:03:44 | lostlogic | preglow: codec_pcmbuf_insert_split_callback is your friend, but I don't see how it would matter to it whether it's up, down, or sideways sampling |
| 01:03:59 | amiconn | lol |
| 01:04:20 | * | amiconn imagines sideways sampling |
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| 01:04:55 | lostlogic | preglow: the code is pretty tightly checked so that even if the dsp misguesses, it just does a second batch of samples |
| 01:05:06 | preglow | lostlogic: it really shouldn't, i'm thinking more the fault is in dsp_input_size and dsp_output_size |
| 01:05:26 | lostlogic | preglow: that would be my guess −− and of the two, I'd guess dsp_input_size |
| 01:05:29 | preglow | i already know of one small bug in dsp_input_size |
| 01:05:32 | preglow | but it doesn't fix it |
| 01:05:38 | lostlogic | a fault in dsp_output_size shouldnt' cause a splat |
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| 01:07:52 | preglow | but if the bug is in those, it's weird that only upsample() should cause a glitch... |
| 01:08:14 | lostlogic | preglow: what if the bug is in the return value from dsp_process? |
| 01:08:22 | lostlogic | that would also cause potential stupidity |
| 01:08:41 | lostlogic | because the pcmbuf would think X was written when Y was actually written |
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| 01:14:11 | preglow | lostlogic: would it now |
| 01:14:22 | preglow | i'll have a look at it tomorrow, if time permits |
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| 01:16:37 | nuthin4nuthin | Anyone running FLAC's on an ipod color? |
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| 01:21:11 | * | linuxstb_ wonders why people join irc for 2 minutes.. |
| 01:21:48 | scorche | dont worry..it was nuthin |
| 01:21:52 | amiconn | ...and ask strange question... |
| 01:21:59 | amiconn | +s |
| 01:22:17 | amiconn | oh |
| 01:22:54 | amiconn | I just realised it might be possible to use dma for the h300 lcd update... |
| 01:23:26 | amiconn | ...with auto-align... |
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| 01:57:28 | lostlogic | amiconn: that'd be hawt, wish I still had one ;) |
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| 02:07:14 | amiconn | whoa! |
| 02:07:38 | goffa | whoa what? |
| 02:07:45 | amiconn | I get 115fps at 45MHz with DMA - but it seems that exceeds the controller specs |
| 02:07:45 | * | Genre9mp3 fells of his chair |
| 02:08:08 | amiconn | The display contents gets garbled |
| 02:08:18 | goffa | he he he.. ok |
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| 02:09:00 | preglow | what do you usually get at 45mhz? |
| 02:09:04 | amiconn | 60fps |
| 02:09:16 | Genre9mp3 | what does this practically means? |
| 02:09:49 | amiconn | It seems I have to increase the # of waitstates |
| 02:10:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | Genre9mp3: It means less time has to be wasted updating the LCD. |
| 02:10:12 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: That means we can update the H300 lcd without using much cpu power |
| 02:10:47 | Genre9mp3 | really good news then! :D |
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| 02:11:56 | amiconn | With sufficient waitstates, it probably won't update faster than with current cvs, but the cpu could do some work in the background (e.g. decode audio) while the dma controller is pumping the data into the lcd controller |
| 02:13:34 | linuxstb | Sounds like it would help mpegplayer. |
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| 02:14:07 | amiconn | Unfortunately not |
| 02:14:15 | lostlogic | amiconn: no need for faster frame rates, the point of faster peak frame rates is just to free upt eh CPU for other stuff any way |
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| 02:14:58 | amiconn | linuxstb: DMA is only possible if the data doesn't have to be converted, i.e. it won't work for lcd_yuv_blit() |
| 02:15:25 | * | linuxstb forgot we blit the data... |
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| 02:22:25 | amiconn | With in-specs waitstates, I get 100fps at 45 MHz and 133fps at 124MHz |
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| 02:24:09 | amiconn | All this is for full-screen only atm, and without yielding |
| 02:24:46 | * | amiconn first wanted to see the potential speedup with using dma |
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| 02:59:42 | preglow | amiconn: can this be done for h1x0 as well? |
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| 04:27:56 | robertjm | Does anyone know if the forums are down? I'm having problems connecting to them. All the webpage displays is DNS ERROR, literally the words. |
| 04:29:39 | goffa | i can get in there |
| 04:30:18 | robertjm | Just tried it again and its working. Must've just been a quicky outage. |
| 04:30:24 | robertjm | Thanks for checking. |
| 04:31:04 | goffa | no prob |
| 04:31:11 | robertjm | Was trying to modify the menu options that are displayed by ID3 tags. What file are those settings installed in? |
| 04:31:30 | goffa | i'm not the right guy to ask on that |
| 04:31:36 | robertjm | grin! |
| 04:36:27 | robertjm | Found my answer in the forums. Apparently I'd have to download the source and much around with recompiling it, which isn't what I planned on spending my time on tonight. Oh well. |
| 04:38:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | robertjm: You don't need to recompile to modify the custom tagnavi file |
| 04:38:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | I *think* it's named tagnavi_custom.config now, but I really don't know for sure what it was renamed to |
| 04:40:12 | robertjm | Ah, perhaps there was a change since the thread I was reading, which was from April, or so. |
| 04:41:19 | robertjm | There's a file called tagnavi.config, which is see the menus in. |
| 04:41:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | And it should say to include a custom file |
| 04:41:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | Which is the one you should create and modify. |
| 04:42:26 | robertjm | Up towards the top of the file: "Instead, you can modify "/.rockbox/tagnavi_custom.config" which will never" |
| 04:42:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | That's the file you should modify then |
| 04:43:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | Because tagnavi.config gets overwritten when you update builds |
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| 04:43:14 | robertjm | Since I don't have one in the folder, can I clone the tagnavi.config and modify as necessary? |
| 04:43:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yeah, you may need to make a few other changes, but should work well enough |
| 04:43:58 | robertjm | Cool! I'm assuming all the setting into can be found in the manual/docs? |
| 04:44:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | Not really |
| 04:44:30 | Paul_the_Nerd | The format isn't finalized, so it's not really well documented |
| 04:44:39 | robertjm | Are there any docs for the mackup of that file? |
| 04:44:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | robertjm: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache |
| 04:44:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | That's the best one, I believe |
| 04:45:51 | robertjm | That's what I was looking for. Should make for some light reading. :-) |
| 04:45:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hehehe |
| 04:45:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | Best of luck with it. |
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| 04:46:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's a pretty powerful tool, in the end |
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| 04:48:29 | robertjm | That's the beauty of it all. Configurability. And if you muck something up you can always simply reinstall (generally) without permanently messing something up. |
| 04:49:28 | robertjm | Night all. |
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| 05:14:50 | rbloveyo | why do I keep getting these "reject" earphones....one cord is longer than the other. |
| 05:15:10 | joecool | buy good headphones ffs |
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| 05:16:07 | rbloveyo | I mean with the crappy included earphones you get from daps...but this has happened more than once |
| 05:16:43 | rbloveyo | doesn't make sense that one cord is longer than the other unless your head is lopsided |
| 05:16:50 | aliask | you mean around the neck ones? |
| 05:17:09 | rbloveyo | no these are normal earphones but one cord is longer than the other |
| 05:17:19 | rbloveyo | hmm... |
| 05:17:24 | rbloveyo | neck you say |
| 05:17:30 | aliask | The longer cord is supposed to go around the back of your neck. |
| 05:17:46 | rbloveyo | lol... |
| 05:17:53 | aliask | I feel that the earphones that are equal length are crappy and cheap. |
| 05:17:59 | rbloveyo | they should say that on them! |
| 05:18:24 | rbloveyo | how do they know if you have a big or a small head though |
| 05:18:25 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'm rather indifferent between Y-cord and J-cord 'phones |
| 05:18:46 | aliask | rbloveyo: How much difference can there be... |
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| 05:19:21 | rbloveyo | or say there's a girl with a lotta hair or something |
| 05:19:45 | aliask | Well, does it reach for you? |
| 05:20:01 | rbloveyo | haven't tried "wearing" them the correct way lol |
| 05:20:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | I have long hair, and I just run the cord beneath it. But it is fairly long in most cases. |
| 05:20:32 | rbloveyo | feels odd |
| 05:20:39 | rbloveyo | I don't like this new style |
| 05:20:45 | aliask | With the "J-cord" ones you can take out your headphones and they don't fall on the ground. |
| 05:21:32 | rbloveyo | as opposed to regular earphones/headphones? |
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| 05:21:59 | aliask | Well, they just rest on your shoulders/chest rather than having to pick them up and put them in your pocket or whatever. |
| 05:23:59 | rbloveyo | I guess I'm old fashioned then...I like having to pick them up |
| 05:24:13 | rbloveyo | earphones resting on your shoulders...unheard of! |
| 05:24:22 | aliask | Heh... :) |
| 05:24:37 | aliask | Well, at least you know how they're supposed to be used now |
| 05:24:57 | rbloveyo | lol, I really thought these were like factory rejects |
| 05:28:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | Someone thought it was a better way to do things |
| 05:29:05 | Paul_the_Nerd | The jury, overall, is still out, as many stand by the Y-Cord style |
| 05:33:13 | joecool | i won't even bother damaging my ears with the shit headphones they package |
| 05:33:32 | joecool | went from a pair of Shure E3c's to Shure E4's, won't be ever going back to buds again |
| 05:33:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | Some iRiver players have come with Sennheiser MX400s, which really aren't bad for buds. |
| 05:34:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | And I got a free pair of PX100s with a player from them once, though it was a promotion. |
| 05:34:30 | joecool | buds are junk from design, you can only get good sound with full cans or canalphones |
| 05:34:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | A lot of that depends on the volumes you listen at. |
| 05:35:20 | joecool | not really, you lose a great deal of sound because buds don't seal |
| 05:35:34 | Teknomancer | i like my Senn Mx400's actually |
| 05:35:40 | joecool | so if you go ANYWHERE there is sound, you are going to compensate by cranking the volume and going deaf :P |
| 05:35:53 | Teknomancer | but i havent been able to get a better Shure's here .... |
| 05:36:18 | Paul_the_Nerd | joecool: As I said, it depends on the volume you listen at. |
| 05:36:34 | Paul_the_Nerd | You're talking about going somewhere with lots of sound, not an ideal listening environment no matter what. |
| 05:36:35 | rbloveyo | what about those shure e2c/e3c/eXcs....heard those are pretty good (& damn expenseive for earbuds, but they're like isolating) |
| 05:36:42 | Teknomancer | sealing outside noise can be dangerous at times too :) |
| 05:36:55 | Teknomancer | while driving for instance, u'd want to hear the outside as well ... |
| 05:36:58 | joecool | rbloveyo: i've owned a pair of E3c's and currently own a pair of E4's |
| 05:37:01 | joecool | fucking awesome |
| 05:37:18 | rbloveyo | better than fullsize headphones? |
| 05:37:50 | joecool | depends on what you're comparing it to, but for the most part.. better then most fullsize you see in stores |
| 05:38:23 | joecool | plus they are small, don't fall out easy, and are comfortable enough to sleep in (and stay in) |
| 05:38:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yeah, but you can pretty much always get better fullsize for the same price canalphones if you shop around. |
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| 05:39:21 | joecool | i know that there are a few great fullsize cans under $100, but for E4 and up, price gets exponential comparing to fullsize cans and canalphones are the best bang for your buc |
| 05:39:21 | joecool | k |
| 05:39:38 | joecool | also, many high end fullsize cans require an amp |
| 05:39:45 | joecool | canalphones do not |
| 05:40:44 | joecool | i prefer Shures because of build quality and fit, the E4's are probably the most balanced single driver canalphone on the market |
| 05:40:59 | joecool | dual-driver and triple-driver cans cost way more, but have way better sound |
| 05:41:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | How many of them have yo utried? |
| 05:41:14 | Tempis | guh, I installed a new hd in my archos last night and it all worked, now I can't get it to turn on |
| 05:41:22 | joecool | i've tried the E5's before, not gotten my hands on the E500's yet though |
| 05:41:28 | joecool | the E5's have DAMN strong bass |
| 05:41:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | Tempis: What's it doing? |
| 05:41:42 | Tempis | nothing |
| 05:41:57 | Tempis | I hit the on button the green light comes on for a second then goes off again |
| 05:42:03 | joecool | i've not tested Etymotic or Ultimate Ears cans, they are good as well, but the build quality is kinda sucky on the Etys |
| 05:42:08 | joecool | Westones are supposed to be nice too |
| 05:42:58 | joecool | UE is probably the closest competitor to Shure... they had the UE-10 cans at $900 |
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| 05:43:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | Tempis: And how sure are you the batteries are good? |
| 05:43:14 | joecool | but the E500's from Shure are only $500 |
| 05:43:16 | Tempis | they are brand new |
| 05:43:17 | joecool | and i'm done talking.. |
| 05:43:46 | joecool | btw, if you are interested in Shure, look at earphonesolutions and i think the other one is headspace or something |
| 05:43:48 | Tempis | hmm, if I hold the on button down I get a HD error |
| 05:43:51 | Tempis | damnit |
| 05:43:55 | joecool | they both have WAY lower prices then retail |
| 05:43:55 | Tempis | it was working last night |
| 05:44:11 | joecool | E4's retail at $299, got em there at $188 :P |
| 05:44:25 | rbloveyo | "...are _only_ $500"...lol, emphasis added |
| 05:44:29 | scorche | Tempis: it sounds like the problem that plagues those devices |
| 05:44:42 | Tempis | which is what problem? |
| 05:44:50 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/repairbattery.html |
| 05:45:07 | joecool | rbloveyo: i'd say to go for the E3's or E4's if you have the money ($120 and $188 respectively if you go one of those two places) |
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| 05:45:21 | Tempis | that sounds like just what's happening |
| 05:45:31 | Tempis | ugg, soldering |
| 05:45:55 | scorche | it is quite easy |
| 05:47:36 | Tempis | I guess I need to buy a soldering iron |
| 05:47:52 | scorche | you dont have any friends that have one? |
| 05:48:09 | Tempis | nope |
| 05:48:16 | scorche | where do you live? |
| 05:48:41 | Tempis | about an hour southeast of New Orleans |
| 05:49:23 | Tempis | hmm, where's my little screwdriver |
| 05:49:45 | * | joecool bought 10 pairs of Comply foams for the E4's... should come in tommorow |
| 05:49:48 | joecool | expensive suckers |
| 05:50:07 | joecool | but i hear good things and its saving me from buying more expensive pairs :) |
| 05:51:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | Tempis: If you haven't done it by next time I'm in Baton Rouge, I'll do it for you. It'll only be like, six months. :-P |
| 05:52:39 | Tempis | heh |
| 05:53:38 | Tempis | what would you be doing in BR? |
| 05:54:43 | scorche | Tempis: well, if you want, you can mail it to me and i can do it as well |
| 05:55:02 | scorche | might be cheaper than buying an iron (although they can be fun) |
| 05:55:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | Tempis: I have family there. |
| 05:55:20 | Tempis | I'll probably try it myself |
| 05:55:23 | Tempis | ahh |
| 05:55:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | I was actually born in NO. |
| 05:55:30 | Tempis | ahh |
| 05:55:47 | Tempis | my sister lives in BR and I have a bunch of friends there as well |
| 05:56:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | Ah |
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| 05:57:37 | Tempis | you know, I was looking at that solder point last night and thought it looked funny |
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| 05:59:12 | * | Paul_the_Nerd needs to take his apart. |
| 05:59:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | It gets truly horrid battery life. |
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| 06:05:11 | * | scorche is hungry |
| 06:05:16 | * | scorche is thinking of going out just to get some free candy |
| 06:05:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 06:05:27 | JdGordon | mmmm... candy |
| 06:05:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | I didn't get a single kid knock at my door. |
| 06:05:34 | Paul_the_Nerd | But then, I think there's only one in the complex |
| 06:05:48 | scorche | i hear tons of kids outside |
| 06:06:01 | scorche | but no knocks...then again, i dont have my lights on |
| 06:06:07 | JdGordon | scare em off with the chainsaw.. :D |
| 06:06:57 | * | goffa had about 30 kids.. it was fairly cold this year though |
| 06:07:21 | goffa | about 20 degrees with a good wind on top of that |
| 06:07:22 | JdGordon | we dont have such pagon festivals here.. |
| 06:07:47 | scorche | if you are going to make the joke, at least spell pagan right ;) |
| 06:07:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 06:08:01 | JdGordon | bah, i know i cant spell... |
| 06:08:14 | JdGordon | as long as u know what i mean |
| 06:08:37 | goffa | the people at work are going to be happy.. got about 40 candy bars i'm bringing into work |
| 06:11:21 | rbloveyo | I got free donuts from dunkin donuts....even though I'm 22 |
| 06:11:35 | goffa | nice... |
| 06:11:48 | goffa | i didn't go out |
| 06:12:03 | rbloveyo | me neither, I was just grabbing coffee |
| 06:12:12 | goffa | cool |
| 06:12:17 | rbloveyo | but thought it wouldn't hurt to bring up free donuts for halloween |
| 06:12:30 | goffa | aparently it didn't :) |
| 06:15:06 | rbloveyo | hope I don't get egged....or I care more about my car getting egged than me |
| 06:16:09 | goffa | yeah.. i was giving out whole candy bars.. so i'm thinking that's good no-egg insurance |
| 06:16:29 | scorche | gah....any more of this talk and i really will go out and get some free candy |
| 06:16:34 | scorche | throw a sheet over me |
| 06:17:24 | rbloveyo | is candy a synonym for something else? |
| 06:17:27 | goffa | what's holdin you back? |
| 06:17:29 | rbloveyo | ;P |
| 06:17:57 | scorche | laziness probably |
| 06:18:10 | aliask | man, we are totally deprived in australia |
| 06:18:27 | aliask | i want free candy :( |
| 06:18:41 | goffa | you don't have sanctioned pan-handling night? |
| 06:18:52 | aliask | pan.. handling? |
| 06:19:11 | goffa | being a smart ass.. trick-or-treating |
| 06:19:23 | aliask | oh, that's saturday. |
| 06:19:47 | goffa | ah |
| 06:22:16 | goffa | it'd be cool to have a plugin on the player to encode flac to ogg |
| 06:22:47 | goffa | then i could just drag and drop tunes onto the player and encode on the go |
| 06:23:10 | aliask | It'd be slow, especially ogg. |
| 06:23:17 | goffa | yeah.. i'm sure it would |
| 06:23:21 | scorche | ah yes...i can see it now |
| 06:23:27 | scorche | *an hour later* |
| 06:23:30 | scorche | what? |
| 06:23:32 | scorche | out of battery? |
| 06:24:01 | aliask | But transcoding isn't SUCH a bad idea - we have realtime mp3 encoding, and highly efficient decoders, it probably wouldn't be THAT hard to string them together. |
| 06:25:39 | goffa | basically i just want to go to bed now... but i'm waiting for a couple of albums :) |
| 06:25:56 | goffa | that's where the idea came from |
| 06:26:04 | daurn|laptop | hi aliask |
| 06:26:12 | aliask | Howdy |
| 06:26:23 | daurn|laptop | sup |
| 06:26:36 | rbloveyo | lol |
| 06:26:38 | aliask | Not much. Spent the day at the library, so I'm bored stupid. |
| 06:26:48 | * | Paul_the_Nerd has already put in a feature request for a transcoding interface. |
| 06:26:55 | daurn|laptop | aliask: ouch |
| 06:26:58 | goffa | cool |
| 06:27:01 | daurn|laptop | i spent today bored as fucking hell |
| 06:27:04 | daurn|laptop | - at school |
| 06:27:08 | rbloveyo | lol |
| 06:27:14 | rbloveyo | do something! |
| 06:27:19 | aliask | uni? |
| 06:27:19 | scorche | aliask: i would think that at least from that, you would be bored smart |
| 06:27:23 | goffa | yay.. it finished |
| 06:27:38 | aliask | scorche: If you were closer to me, I'd buy you a beer for that. |
| 06:27:48 | aliask | Mmmm... beer |
| 06:27:53 | aliask | brb |
| 06:28:01 | daurn|laptop | mmm |
| 06:28:02 | daurn|laptop | beer |
| 06:28:12 | daurn|laptop | wish i didn't always finish it as soon as i buy it\ |
| 06:28:37 | scorche | aliask: ship it! |
| 06:28:47 | goffa | well.. i think i'm going to go to bed before i start transcoding more albums |
| 06:28:50 | goffa | night everyone |
| 06:29:05 | aliask | night |
| 06:29:22 | rbloveyo | this might be a question-asked-too-much, but is there dual-boot support on the iRiver h3xx? I see it says you just hold down record but does the original fw exactly as it should? |
| 06:29:26 | aliask | scorche: I'll send you a soggy envelope, it'll be cheaper :D |
| 06:29:32 | scorche | pfft! |
| 06:29:44 | rbloveyo | * original fw ^ work ^ exactly as it should |
| 06:29:52 | aliask | rbloveyo: Yes, it does |
| 06:30:02 | rbloveyo | cool, thanks-all I needed to know |
| 06:30:13 | daurn|laptop | aliask: you gonna buy a S60? |
| 06:30:20 | aliask | Yeah |
| 06:30:37 | aliask | Probably from that place you found, why is it so cheap? |
| 06:30:38 | rbloveyo | just got my h300 and am debating whether I should learn the iriver fw before I throw rockbox on there...but if dualboot doesn't impeded the original fw at all, even better |
| 06:30:50 | daurn|laptop | aliask: its not that chea |
| 06:30:57 | daurn|laptop | just $5 or so less than most palces |
| 06:31:01 | aliask | It's cheaper than a local s30 |
| 06:31:20 | daurn|laptop | of course |
| 06:31:28 | daurn|laptop | australia is as expensive as anything |
| 06:31:32 | aliask | :( |
| 06:31:57 | daurn|laptop | you should learn from an early age: if you buy something over $100, you can get it shipped from USA for $50 |
| 06:32:32 | daurn|laptop | FTA my ass |
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| 06:33:29 | aliask | Hrm amazon has them reasonably cheap too... wonder if they'll ship it here |
| 06:33:44 | daurn|laptop | nope |
| 06:33:54 | aliask | They won't? |
| 06:33:54 | daurn|laptop | i doubt anywhere in usa will ship here |
| 06:34:07 | JdGordon | what you trying to get? |
| 06:34:11 | aliask | Gigabeat |
| 06:34:15 | JdGordon | ah |
| 06:34:45 | daurn|laptop | well, i need to go buy a computer |
| 06:34:53 | daurn|laptop | i have no idea how much money i have |
| 06:34:59 | daurn|laptop | but i suspect i won't have any leftr |
| 06:35:07 | JdGordon | whats the best price youve found? |
| 06:35:17 | aliask | Around about $250 US |
| 06:35:22 | aliask | For an S60 |
| 06:35:33 | scorche | well, provided you pay for shipping and everything, i dont mind buying and sending it over there =) |
| 06:35:48 | aliask | That would be extremely useful scorche, I'll keep that in mind. |
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| 06:36:48 | JdGordon | http://www.shopferret.com.au/buy/mp3_players~l-p__filters-952.html $463 plus post... or is that still way more expensive than buying in US? |
| 06:36:49 | hcs | heh, I just did something similar for a German in here... |
| 06:37:41 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: add $16.75 and divde by .76 |
| 06:37:43 | aliask | JdGordon: $463 is like $360 US |
| 06:38:01 | daurn|laptop | so, $350 shipped |
| 06:38:06 | daurn|laptop | (AU) |
| 06:38:16 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 06:38:41 | * | scorche whistles |
| 06:38:56 | * | aliask considers going to get another beer |
| 06:39:26 | * | daurn|laptop wishes for a beer |
| 06:40:19 | * | Paul_the_Nerd wishes for donuts. |
| 06:40:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | Fortunately my Dunkin' is open 24-hours |
| 06:40:29 | * | JdGordon agrees with Paul_the_Nerd |
| 06:40:44 | * | scorche wishes for beer AND donuts |
| 06:40:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | Eww. |
| 06:40:52 | aliask | scorche has the right idea |
| 06:41:00 | scorche | ...and money with which to buy said items... |
| 06:41:15 | rbloveyo | at my dunkin donuts $2.39 smoothies for the month of october...damn 20 minutes left |
| 06:44:40 | rbloveyo | I see a group of goth-looking kids outside...think I'll stay in |
| 06:44:49 | JdGordon | $2.40 for a donut?? |
| 06:45:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | No, for a smoothie |
| 06:45:05 | * | scorche wonders what rbloveyo has against goths |
| 06:45:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | A half dozen donuts is like $3.00 |
| 06:45:28 | rbloveyo | a smoothie! (it's a beverage) |
| 06:45:38 | rbloveyo | goths scare me |
| 06:45:45 | JdGordon | ah, missed the smootihie word |
| 06:45:48 | daurn|laptop | rbloveyo: OH NO - goths!!! |
| 06:45:52 | aliask | The nicest person I've met is a goth. |
| 06:46:03 | daurn|laptop | you should be going out there and laughing at them |
| 06:46:04 | JdGordon | goths are funny |
| 06:46:17 | * | scorche could be considered a goth except he doesnt dress like one |
| 06:46:17 | daurn|laptop | goths are very insecure |
| 06:46:30 | rbloveyo | a couple of 'em are wearing devil horns... |
| 06:46:43 | daurn|laptop | rbloveyo: isn't it halloween? |
| 06:47:01 | rbloveyo | they're probably like that on a regular day ;) |
| 06:47:36 | daurn|laptop | any1 got falls tickets? - aliask, JdGordon? |
| 06:47:43 | aliask | I MISSED OUT |
| 06:47:50 | aliask | Got BDO though :D |
| 06:48:23 | daurn|laptop | i'm thining about summa dayze (or however you spell it) |
| 06:48:51 | aliask | Yeah me too, but I'm just not sure of the crowd it'll attract. I can deal with drunk bogans, not e'd up ravers. |
| 06:49:07 | daurn|laptop | i think ther'll be alot of coke |
| 06:49:20 | scorche | aliask: just pinch them |
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| 06:49:39 | aliask | Holy crap, 2 tickets to the falls are going on ebay for over $500 |
| 06:49:40 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: na, not my type of music |
| 06:49:49 | JdGordon | also they are fucking expensive.... |
| 06:49:59 | daurn|laptop | aliask: and i have have bids snipng them |
| 06:50:09 | daurn|laptop | i have friends that need tickets |
| 06:50:20 | daurn|laptop | - willing to pay $260 a ticket |
| 06:50:32 | aliask | Where do your friends live... toorak? |
| 06:50:39 | daurn|laptop | most are going 2 for $550 or so... |
| 06:50:51 | daurn|laptop | aliask: just how much they cost |
| 06:50:57 | scorche | holy crap...what kinda show is this? |
| 06:51:06 | daurn|laptop | i know people that have bought them for $400+ each |
| 06:51:06 | JdGordon | 3 day festival |
| 06:51:11 | aliask | It's a music festival, and it has a VERY good line up this year |
| 06:51:12 | scorche | oh |
| 06:51:30 | * | hcs looks forward to the Blip Festival |
| 06:51:48 | daurn|laptop | aliask: i was so in for summa dayze, but daft punk cancelled :( |
| 06:51:58 | * | JdGordon would have killed to get to rock am ring in germany this year |
| 06:52:19 | daurn|laptop | i can't believe basement jaxx are headlining |
| 06:52:28 | daurn|laptop | SO many better groups there |
| 06:52:44 | daurn|laptop | youth group, axwell, bobsinclair(hes too commerical though) |
| 06:53:22 | JdGordon | omg, the BDO website is fucking horrible |
| 06:53:23 | * | scorche hasnt heard of any of these groups |
| 06:53:35 | aliask | JdGordon: Agreed |
| 06:53:46 | daurn|laptop | scorche: go wiki |
| 06:53:47 | JdGordon | i tihnk it crashed FF |
| 06:54:11 | aliask | Damn, a lot of big names in Summerdayze |
| 06:54:30 | daurn|laptop | wow |
| 06:54:37 | daurn|laptop | BDO website IS fucked... |
| 06:54:41 | daurn|laptop | mentally |
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| 06:54:51 | daurn|laptop | you have to bite a magic mushroom to get in |
| 06:55:02 | aliask | Or click skip :) |
| 06:55:06 | JdGordon | http://www.bigdayout.com/lineup/artists.php |
| 06:55:26 | JdGordon | tool is the only decent band there.. and im not paying $120 again to see one band |
| 06:55:32 | aliask | Lineup isn't that good yet |
| 06:55:40 | aliask | But it's only first announcement |
| 06:55:46 | JdGordon | did that when metallica came, and fear factory showed up which made it sweet :) |
| 06:56:05 | aliask | JdGordon: Oh come on, come see My Chemical Romance with me |
| 06:56:17 | * | JdGordon will be able to watch it all on foxtel |
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| 06:56:34 | scorche | ew.... |
| 06:56:49 | aliask | OK JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR I WAS JOKING |
| 06:56:54 | daurn|laptop | BDO isn't bad lineup |
| 06:56:58 | JdGordon | lol |
| 06:57:07 | daurn|laptop | just... not grat |
| 06:57:11 | daurn|laptop | not enough for $115 |
| 06:57:13 | JdGordon | its at princes park this year... thats gotta suck compared to the showgrounds |
| 06:59:04 | daurn|laptop | omg |
| 06:59:13 | daurn|laptop | i think summadayze tickets are still on sale |
| 06:59:28 | JdGordon | ... changing topics.... daurn|laptop, aliask, are either of you "car" people? |
| 06:59:53 | daurn|laptop | "Car" people? |
| 06:59:53 | aliask | If I was going to buy a car I'd buy a hybrid :D |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:06 | aliask | (No, I'm not) |
| 07:00:07 | JdGordon | i need to get to the back of my radio and cant igure it out |
| 07:00:23 | JdGordon | hence the need for a car person |
| 07:00:26 | daurn|laptop | i'm not particulary a car person |
| 07:00:31 | aliask | That can be quite hard, sometimes you have to take out the whole dashboard |
| 07:00:36 | daurn|laptop | - i don't have one |
| 07:00:38 | hcs | are you, maybe, a car robot? |
| 07:00:47 | daurn|laptop | but, i will - BECOME a car person |
| 07:00:51 | JdGordon | bah.. useless... |
| 07:00:53 | daurn|laptop | its sort of genetical |
| 07:00:54 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 07:00:55 | * | JdGordon goes off to sulk |
| 07:01:22 | daurn|laptop | OW |
| 07:01:24 | daurn|laptop | FUCK |
| 07:01:30 | daurn|laptop | advise: |
| 07:01:37 | aliask | *advice: |
| 07:01:43 | daurn|laptop | do NOT jump, and land without moving or bending knees |
| 07:01:47 | daurn|laptop | it kills you |
| 07:01:51 | aliask | Why did you do that? |
| 07:01:59 | daurn|laptop | i just fell straight to the floor from the shock |
| 07:02:01 | scorche | JdGordon: take a picture of it |
| 07:02:43 | aliask | back on rockbox topics: has anybody given much thought to sdoyon's patches, they look good |
| 07:02:47 | daurn|laptop | aliask: i am EXTREMLY lazy - i didn't want to bother unbending my knees later |
| 07:02:47 | JdGordon | scorche: nothing to look at, aparently i need to push a special radio tool in behind the screws, but dont hav one |
| 07:03:01 | scorche | ah |
| 07:03:12 | JdGordon | aliask: what patches? |
| 07:03:21 | aliask | Mainly voice related |
| 07:03:24 | scorche | just go to a dealership and give one of the mechanics 10 bucks or soemthing to use the tool |
| 07:03:40 | daurn|laptop | btw, a guy i know found a strange, illegel, easy way to get money |
| 07:03:50 | daurn|laptop | he steals expresspost envelopes out of trucks |
| 07:03:55 | daurn|laptop | and sells them on ebay |
| 07:03:58 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:04:08 | daurn|laptop | - $10 a parcel ($15 retail) - in packs of 20 or so |
| 07:04:19 | scorche | huh? |
| 07:04:21 | daurn|laptop | he gets $1000 for a backpack size thing |
| 07:04:31 | scorche | >_> |
| 07:04:33 | hcs | why not just steal cash? |
| 07:04:52 | hcs | better guarded, I guess |
| 07:04:53 | aliask | Because everyone expects that. |
| 07:05:09 | daurn|laptop | cause you can hardly walk around with a bag full of cash |
| 07:05:17 | aliask | JdGordon: This one in particular http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6159 |
| 07:05:19 | daurn|laptop | - nevermind walking out of a joint |
| 07:05:32 | daurn|laptop | he just walks past the post office, grabs a box, and keeps walking |
| 07:05:37 | daurn|laptop | - cash is guarded at all tiome |
| 07:06:11 | aliask | JdGordon: PS I have no idea how to apply it... |
| 07:06:26 | daurn|laptop | ok, i'm hungry |
| 07:06:30 | daurn|laptop | what should i get :S |
| 07:06:34 | JdGordon | aliask: were you pimping that patch a while ago? i saw it, and it would probably be acceptable if it works nicely |
| 07:06:56 | aliask | Uh, maybe, I don't remember. I'll have a shot at applying it. |
| 07:06:59 | daurn|laptop | tantalize me! |
| 07:07:40 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: try the new pizza place on glenhuntly road and tell me if its any good... called yoni's or yori's or something |
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| 07:10:22 | daurn|laptop | too early for that |
| 07:10:36 | daurn|laptop | i'm thinking a bag of corn chips |
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| 07:11:30 | jdhoreotg | anyone know how to update the copy of Rockbox already on my iPod with RockBox Installer X? |
| 07:11:48 | JdGordon | just unzip the new rockbox.zip onto it |
| 07:12:11 | JdGordon | unless your bootloader is old, and i dont think there has been an update in ages to it |
| 07:12:18 | jdhoreotg | won't that overwrite my .wps' and stuff |
| 07:12:24 | jdhoreotg | and i'm runnig Loader2 |
| 07:12:27 | JdGordon | yes |
| 07:12:47 | JdGordon | the only important files are rockbox.ipod all the codecs and rocks |
| 07:12:49 | JdGordon | and viewers |
| 07:12:58 | jdhoreotg | ahh |
| 07:13:00 | JdGordon | the rest you shold be ok with leaving your old copies |
| 07:13:24 | jdhoreotg | i'll back them up just incase though |
| 07:13:53 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: you on elsternwick exchange? |
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| 07:14:11 | jdhoreotg | ...fucking .net |
| 07:14:24 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: balaclava exchange if you mean for phone... |
| 07:14:28 | daurn|laptop | ok |
| 07:14:46 | JdGordon | i think i can get adsl2+ :) |
| 07:15:50 | daurn|laptop | fuck you!!! |
| 07:15:55 | daurn|laptop | yagi it over to me :P |
| 07:16:07 | JdGordon | na :) |
| 07:16:19 | rbloveyo | anybodty with an iriver h340? |
| 07:16:30 | rbloveyo | trying to install rockbox but didn't work right |
| 07:16:33 | jdhoreotg | hehe |
| 07:16:35 | JdGordon | i got a h320.. which is close enough |
| 07:16:38 | JdGordon | wharts the problem? |
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| 07:17:03 | rbloveyo | I got the h300.hex file, ran fwpatcher, threw that on the root dir of the player, went to firmware upgrade |
| 07:17:12 | rbloveyo | that upgraded it under iRiver to 1.30eu |
| 07:17:15 | rbloveyo | but not rockbox startup |
| 07:17:15 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: This exchange has been enabled for ADSL2+ service by Chime. :D |
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| 07:17:53 | rbloveyo | never mind :) |
| 07:18:01 | JdGordon | hth |
| 07:18:14 | rbloveyo | I gues syou gotta run it twice |
| 07:18:39 | daurn|laptop | chime? |
| 07:19:02 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: i dunno.. some company i guess |
| 07:19:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | rbloveyo: Were you originally using US firmware? |
| 07:19:22 | JdGordon | adsl2+ is fairly expensive compared to cable |
| 07:19:27 | rbloveyo | yeah I guess stock us |
| 07:19:30 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: NOT AFAICS |
| 07:19:32 | daurn|laptop | only iinet |
| 07:19:45 | daurn|laptop | http://www.dslamwatch.com.au/ExchangeView.aspx?State=VIC&Exchange=Balaclava |
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| 07:19:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | rbloveyo: For some reason the US's firmware upgrade routine manages to grab the firmware without the bootloader. But then when you upgrade again, it upgrades everything |
| 07:20:29 | rbloveyo | yea that seems like what happened |
| 07:20:47 | rbloveyo | first time I ran it, I couldn't turn it on using the on button...only thing I could do was plug in the AC |
| 07:21:03 | rbloveyo | but then the new iRiver fw was active |
| 07:21:22 | rbloveyo | then I did the firmware upgrade again with the same file...after it cut off from doing the upgrade, hitting on started rockbox up |
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| 07:22:08 | pagefault | my telco just skipped adsl2+ and went fiber |
| 07:22:10 | pagefault | thank goodness |
| 07:22:14 | pagefault | enough copper |
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| 07:23:28 | pagefault | it's not as cheap as DSL though :( |
| 07:23:29 | rbloveyo | one other thing....bleeding edge & daily seem not to include fonts...and I really don't have time to compile...is there an alternate location to retrieve them from? |
| 07:23:36 | pagefault | $70 fo ra 10mbit fiber connection |
| 07:23:52 | scorche | rbloveyo: there is a fonts link on the daily builds page |
| 07:24:08 | aliask | pagefault: What's the upstream on that? |
| 07:24:12 | rbloveyo | scorche, thanks |
| 07:24:15 | rbloveyo | missed it |
| 07:24:18 | pagefault | 10/10 |
| 07:24:26 | aliask | Phwoar, nice |
| 07:25:03 | JdGordon | did u see, they want to roll out 100mbit broadband across brissy and the gold coast? |
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| 07:25:24 | pagefault | they will run the fiber to your house for free though |
| 07:25:40 | | Part jdhoreotg |
| 07:26:23 | pagefault | i'm fine right now with 5mbit DSL |
| 07:27:14 | aliask | I have decent downstream but I have a very restrictive uploading policy |
| 07:27:18 | JdGordon | 256kb/s upload is the only sucky thing about cable |
| 07:27:24 | aliask | I've already been sent a cease and desist. |
| 07:27:28 | JdGordon | kilobit |
| 07:27:38 | scorche | JdGordon: dont forget the node crap... |
| 07:27:39 | JdGordon | aliask: haha i got one also |
| 07:27:44 | rbloveyo | well, I'm good...got rockbox running so there's nothing left for me to say :) |
| 07:27:45 | aliask | Hi 5! |
| 07:27:59 | pagefault | ah |
| 07:28:00 | rbloveyo | except good night |
| 07:28:00 | JdGordon | scorche: population density is so low here that doesnt really make much difference |
| 07:28:03 | pagefault | I am at max ADSL upstream |
| 07:28:05 | pagefault | 800kbps |
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| 07:28:12 | pagefault | technology won't go any faster |
| 07:28:19 | pagefault | technology won't go any faster |
| 07:28:20 | pagefault | oops |
| 07:28:24 | pagefault | damn keyboard |
| 07:29:49 | hcs | hhooww ddoo II ttuurrnn ooffff eecchhoo?? |
| 07:30:04 | pagefault | dddduuuunnnnoooo |
| 07:30:07 | aliask | @echo off |
| 07:30:13 | scorche | off |
| 07:31:13 | pagefault | cable is pretty crappy here it drops to slow speeds in the afternoon |
| 07:31:43 | pagefault | oversubscribed |
| 07:33:05 | pagefault | nice thing about DSL is once the line cards get filled up it's full |
| 07:33:10 | pagefault | you can't add anyone else :P |
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| 07:47:12 | daurn|laptop | DAMN |
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| 07:49:20 | aliask | daurn|laptop: ? |
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| 07:53:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | Also, to give fair warning, I may be less available than usual for this month. |
| 07:54:42 | * | scorche hears the sound of a few forum-goes rejoice |
| 07:54:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 07:55:10 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's NaNoWriMo, which will take time. I'll still read every single post, but I may be even less helpful than my normal grumpy self. |
| 07:55:33 | scorche | hehe |
| 07:55:51 | * | scorche googles NaNoWriMo |
| 07:55:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | National Novel Writing Month. |
| 07:56:04 | scorche | so i see |
| 07:57:26 | BHSPitLappy | you just write a novel during the span of a month? |
| 07:57:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yup, it's only 50,000 words. |
| 07:57:50 | hcs | I signed up for that last year, never got anywhere with it. |
| 07:57:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'm already 1% done, and it's only been an hour |
| 07:58:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | I write short stories as a hobby anyway |
| 07:58:46 | daurn|laptop | my isp sucks balls |
| 07:58:53 | BHSPitLappy | a true novelist would write for writing's sake, and shun bandwagon encouraged writing gimmicks |
| 07:59:03 | BHSPitLappy | daurn|laptop, file a bug report |
| 07:59:09 | hcs | while everyone else needs some motivation |
| 07:59:27 | Paul_the_Nerd | BHSPitLappy: I do write for writing's sake, plenty, but I see this as a challenge, and it'll be fun |
| 07:59:34 | daurn|laptop | anyway |
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| 08:00 |
| 08:00:00 | * | scorche would like to see the end result |
| 08:00:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | I plan to post whatever I have. |
| 08:00:09 | scorche | what type of story? |
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| 08:00:25 | scorche | erotic novel? |
| 08:00:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | I would call it Realistic Fantasy Horror. |
| 08:00:44 | daurn|laptop | well, |
| 08:00:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | Inspired in parts by Alice in Wonderland, Sandman (by Neil Gaiman) and The Cell |
| 08:00:46 | daurn|laptop | as i was saying |
| 08:00:48 | daurn|laptop | my connection SUCKS |
| 08:01:01 | daurn|laptop | anyway, summadayze: i think i might go |
| 08:01:05 | Paul_the_Nerd | daurn|laptop: Evidenly |
| 08:01:07 | scorche | oh well...if you need any editing/input, i am here =) |
| 08:01:13 | daurn|laptop | great lineup |
| 08:01:20 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'll probably ask for comments after Chapter 1 is done |
| 08:01:43 | scorche | you should make a whole new topic in the forums for it =P |
| 08:02:02 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 08:02:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yes, because *I* should go off topic |
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| 08:02:08 | BHSPitLappy | if I wrote a book, I'd put // at the beginning of all my footnotes |
| 08:02:17 | BHSPitLappy | nobody would understand why |
| 08:02:25 | hcs | a chapter from a short story I cowrote: http://hcs64.com/mboard/forum.php5?showthread=1842 |
| 08:02:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | On a half on-topic, how many people do Folding@Home? |
| 08:02:42 | scorche | BHSPitLappy: well, now everyone in this channel would... |
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| 08:03:54 | BHSPitLappy | scorche, of course, but channel-goers around here don't fit into the category, "everybody" |
| 08:04:20 | BHSPitLappy | mmm halloween snickers |
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| 08:06:23 | * | Paul_the_Nerd guesses that's a "No" |
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| 08:25:42 | * | scorche makes a dinner consisting of canned peaches and a sandwich with nothing but bread and chips |
| 08:26:08 | JdGordon | yuk! |
| 08:26:14 | * | JdGordon is having lamb for dinner :D |
| 08:26:15 | * | daurn|laptop |
| 08:26:51 | * | daurn|laptop $chr(1) |
| 08:26:56 | daurn|laptop | arg |
| 08:27:23 | * | scorche needs to get business going so he can have a decent dinner |
| 08:28:35 | aliask | I love canned peaches. |
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| 08:29:23 | scorche | as do i...it is the highlight of my dinner |
| 08:29:40 | scorche | but i might have a dessert of cookie dough... |
| 08:29:49 | * | daurn|laptop likes canned peaches - but fresh is betterer |
| 08:29:53 | * | scorche prides himself on eating healthy |
| 08:30:40 | * | daurn|laptop doens't |
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| 08:35:09 | * | BHSPitLappy works at Wendy's |
| 08:35:26 | daurn|laptop | hahaha |
| 08:35:29 | daurn|laptop | pink! |
| 08:35:30 | * | BHSPitLappy , incidentally, hates his existence! |
| 08:37:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | Every time I hear the Wendy's I think of the song Windy by The Association |
| 08:37:39 | daurn|laptop | i think pink |
| 08:37:46 | hcs | and Wendy's has stormy eyes... |
| 08:37:54 | daurn|laptop | and a traffic light with HOT DOG written on it |
| 08:37:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | That flash at the sounds of lies. :-P |
| 08:38:14 | hcs | *fried |
| 08:38:16 | hcs | *fries |
| 08:39:25 | BHSPitLappy | you guys have excessively weird mental associations |
| 08:44:30 | aliask | Bannon! |
| 08:44:40 | scorche | =D |
| 08:45:24 | scorche | you owe me a beer for that too |
| 08:46:13 | aliask | That brings the total count to two, when you get to six I'll ship to you :D |
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| 09:05:55 | Bagder | gosh, fedora is one of the first linux distros to include my new curl version... |
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| 09:16:57 | MarkusGritsch | Hi |
| 09:17:27 | markun | hi MarkusGritsch |
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| 09:18:12 | MarkusGritsch | Some days ago I asked in the rockbox-devel mailing list if the patch "#5720 — improved meta data extraction from SID files" could be applied to CVS −− got no response :) |
| 09:18:21 | muesliii | heyho |
| 09:18:32 | MarkusGritsch | What does it take that a patch gets applied to the HEAD? |
| 09:18:54 | Bagder | that a developer takes time and energy to apply it, check it and then commit it |
| 09:19:23 | MarkusGritsch | Unfortunately that didn't happen... |
| 09:19:26 | Bagder | if you check the patch tracker you'll see that we have a HUGE backlog |
| 09:20:04 | MarkusGritsch | I see |
| 09:21:43 | MarkusGritsch | What does it take to get CVS write-permissions? :) |
| 09:22:03 | Bagder | a series of high quality patches |
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| 09:22:12 | Bagder | and shown dedication to hack rockbox |
| 09:22:22 | MarkusGritsch | ... That will never get applied ;) |
| 09:22:27 | JdGordon | or 1 big one that garentees lots of maintancece... |
| 09:22:30 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 09:22:40 | Bagder | we're >60 committers |
| 09:22:48 | Bagder | so obviously some passed the tests |
| 09:22:55 | Paul_the_Nerd | You just have to wave your patch in front of the right person, at the right time |
| 09:22:56 | JdGordon | Bagder: any idea how many are active? |
| 09:23:13 | LinusN | the usual 5... |
| 09:23:22 | Bagder | you can count that in the cvs log I guess |
| 09:23:33 | Bagder | it depends on how you define "active" |
| 09:23:45 | JdGordon | ok |
| 09:23:50 | Bagder | most committers only care for a limited area of the code |
| 09:25:39 | Bagder | MarkusGritsch: also, make sure the patch works fine on all targets and sims, and do get users to try it out and comment too |
| 09:25:49 | Bagder | it helps smoothen the way for it |
| 09:25:54 | JdGordon | is that a good thing or bad thing? is it better to have everyone know most of the code sort of well-enough, or everyone knowing different parts intimatly? |
| 09:26:08 | jhMikeS | A limited area of the code keeps one quite busy like it or not :P |
| 09:26:12 | Bagder | its more like how it is |
| 09:26:25 | Bagder | Rockbox is huge amounts of code, its hard to keep track of it all |
| 09:26:48 | JdGordon | .. I'm asking more generaly, instead of specifically in rockbox's case. |
| 09:26:49 | Bagder | and I honestly don't think any single person considers himself familiar with all areas |
| 09:27:09 | Bagder | I think it has to become like this when the project grows |
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| 09:36:36 | Topic | "www.rockbox.org is the place | If you are involved with the rockbox effort and do not have a cloak yet, please PM scorche." by scorche (i=ScorchE@cpe-76-171-123-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
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| 09:37:53 | Mode | "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
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| 09:45:20 | Paul_the_Nerd | LinusN: That was a typo in the email. Somehow the word "regular" got substituted by my hands in the place of "Audible" |
| 09:45:25 | * | Paul_the_Nerd has already sent the correction to the list. |
| 09:46:18 | LinusN | :-) |
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| 09:47:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | I find it odd that nobody's bothered to figure out a lossless way to unprotect audible files. |
| 09:48:23 | Bagder | yeah |
| 09:48:42 | jhMikeS | Paul_the_Nerd: say again? re: losslessly removing DRM? |
| 09:48:42 | Bagder | since they can be played stand-alone |
| 09:49:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | jhMikeS: You can do it with iTunes format DRM without exploiting the Analog Hole. |
| 09:49:31 | Paul_the_Nerd | I mean, honestly, it always *has* to be possible because it's called "Decrypting" :) |
| 09:49:42 | Paul_the_Nerd | Bagder: Not only that, but one of the formats is just an encrypted MP3. |
| 09:49:51 | Bagder | oh, even so |
| 09:50:01 | Bagder | then there's not even a sound format to figure out |
| 09:50:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | They come in 4 "qualities" and the highest is MP3 audio. |
| 09:50:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | I'm a fan of the service, because you can pay a monthly subscription and you actually get to keep the files you download. |
| 09:50:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | Significantly cheaper than simply purchasing audiobooks standalone. |
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| 09:51:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | I may move to podcasts for my "spoken word on long trips" though, since those tend to be even cheaper. ;) |
| 09:52:32 | Bagder | yeah, but the quality is also somewhat flaky at times too ;-) |
| 09:53:25 | Paul_the_Nerd | This is true |
| 09:54:38 | markun | Paul_the_Nerd: do they use ogg vorbis as well? Good for low bitrates and royalty free. |
| 09:56:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | markun: Nope, the lower bitrate formats are all common voice formats, I've been told, but I don't remember which. |
| 09:57:38 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:57:47 | Topic | "www.rockbox.org is the place | If you are involved with the rockbox effort and do not have a cloak yet (or know what a cloak is), please PM scorche." by scorche (i=ScorchE@cpe-76-171-123-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 09:57:50 | Mode | "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:58:03 | pondlife | How about if you don't know how to PM scorche...? |
| 09:58:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | markun: ACELP apparently |
| 09:58:21 | scorche | no cloak for you! =) |
| 09:58:29 | * | Paul_the_Nerd shrugs |
| 09:58:42 | markun | scorche: not for me? |
| 09:58:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 09:58:58 | pondlife | No cloak for everyone!! |
| 09:59:18 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:59:28 | Topic | "www.rockbox.org is the place | If you are involved with the rockbox effort and do not have a cloak yet (or know what a cloak is), please /msg scorche." by scorche (i=ScorchE@cpe-76-171-123-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 09:59:31 | Mode | "#rockbox -o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:59:38 | jhMikeS | :D |
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| 10:00:04 | * | Bagder giggles |
| 10:00:09 | daurn|laptop | do i get a cloak? ;) |
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| 10:00:17 | pondlife | What if you're not sure if you're involved in the rockbox efford ? ;-p |
| 10:00:21 | pondlife | effort |
| 10:00:22 | pondlife | :( |
| 10:00:32 | aliask | I think you would qualify... |
| 10:00:39 | * | daurn|laptop cloaks, swoops, decloaks, attacks pondlife, recloaks |
| 10:00:52 | LinusN | pondlife: of you are not with us, you are against us :-) |
| 10:00:52 | scorche | devs and other recognised people qualify |
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| 10:00:57 | jhMikeS | do I or am I just another visitor? |
| 10:00:58 | pondlife | Just seeing if I could get the topic even more convoluted... |
| 10:00:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 10:01:06 | scorche | of course... |
| 10:01:13 | pondlife | IRC Topics For Dummies |
| 10:01:18 | scorche | shhhh! |
| 10:01:45 | muesliii | wot happened 2 cassandra btw? still alive? |
| 10:01:48 | jhMikeS | encrypt it |
| 10:02:07 | pondlife | OK, back to business. Who knows how SDL works? |
| 10:02:13 | scorche | and to all of you that do qualify, the topic says PM me...not ask in the channel ;) |
| 10:02:22 | markun | scorche: everyone recognises dongs.. |
| 10:02:23 | scorche | errr.../msg...whatever |
| 10:02:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | No it doesn't |
| 10:02:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | :-P |
| 10:02:30 | jhMikeS | what is PM? ;) |
| 10:02:34 | Paul_the_Nerd | /msg is for n00bs |
| 10:02:42 | markun | I use /query |
| 10:03:07 | scorche | −−- scorche has changed the topic to: www.rockbox.org is the place | If you are involved with the rockbox effort and do not have a cloak yet (or know what a cloak is), please /msg LinusN. |
| 10:03:09 | jhMikeS | add: and if you don't know what PM is...just forget it |
| 10:03:16 | * | pondlife forgets it |
| 10:03:17 | JdGordon | dongs gets rockbox/unuser/shmuck :D |
| 10:03:25 | scorche | ;) |
| 10:03:51 | markun | JdGordon: I think "microsoft" should also be in there somewhere |
| 10:04:01 | aliask | What's the point of a cloak? |
| 10:04:06 | JdGordon | is he still banned? |
| 10:04:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | aliask: Just lends a little credence when you say "Yes, I'm involved" when someone asks. |
| 10:04:35 | jhMikeS | If you're part of The Federation cloaks are outlawed |
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| 10:04:48 | pondlife | Can I have a cape instead? |
| 10:04:49 | aliask | I'm supprised you're not cloaked then Paul... |
| 10:04:59 | scorche | he is on the list ;) |
| 10:05:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yeah, apparently I'm fated to be. |
| 10:05:13 | aliask | :o |
| 10:05:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | They snuck me into the credits list while I wasn't looking too. :-P |
| 10:05:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | But that was months ago |
| 10:05:19 | scorche | it also "cloaks" your hostname to prevent scary people...or so they say |
| 10:05:44 | jhMikeS | Abortion can prevent scary people too |
| 10:05:51 | LinusN | problem is that we are the scary people |
| 10:06:00 | jhMikeS | darn |
| 10:06:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | I was about to say, what if *I'm* the scary people? |
| 10:06:17 | scorche | fine...not scary people |
| 10:06:18 | pondlife | The scary people were around here last night.... |
| 10:06:22 | JdGordon | does the cloak work on hostanme or username? |
| 10:06:24 | jhMikeS | now life makes more sense |
| 10:06:35 | scorche | 31337 h4xx0rz that want to pwn joo |
| 10:06:35 | JdGordon | i mean registered username |
| 10:07:02 | aliask | oh noes my ip~ |
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| 10:22:31 | jhMikeS | Who do "IPR |= (1<<14);" if it says "The IPR is a read-only longword register." ?? |
| 10:22:39 | jhMikeS | or why rather |
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| 10:36:02 | LinusN | jhMikeS: oops |
| 10:37:23 | LinusN | where is that? |
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| 10:38:48 | jhMikeS | In pcm_playback.c and pcm_record.c |
| 10:38:59 | jhMikeS | DMA0 and DMA1 |
| 10:39:19 | LinusN | i see it |
| 10:40:11 | * | amiconn tried DMA for lcd update last night |
| 10:40:27 | amiconn | It works perfectly - as long as no playback is running :/ |
| 10:40:38 | LinusN | which platform? |
| 10:40:41 | amiconn | H300 |
| 10:40:47 | amiconn | 100fps at 45MHz |
| 10:40:58 | amiconn | (with corrected lcd waitstates) |
| 10:41:20 | Teknomancer | 100 FPS ! 8-O |
| 10:41:36 | LinusN | and what if playback is running? |
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| 10:42:53 | amiconn | Then lcd_update() only updates a few pixel lines (2..3) and stops |
| 10:43:01 | Myipod | Hello Paul_the_Nerd |
| 10:43:03 | amiconn | (I only tested full lcd_update() so far) |
| 10:43:34 | jhMikeS | LinusN: all coldfire |
| 10:44:04 | LinusN | jhMikeS: sorry, my question was for amiconn |
| 10:44:04 | markun | Teknomancer: I hope you don't think this is video playback at 100fps.. |
| 10:44:07 | jhMikeS | oh |
| 10:44:26 | Teknomancer | markun :) hehe yah |
| 10:44:34 | LinusN | funny, that IPR write is my fault, since version 1.1 of the file :-) |
| 10:44:35 | Teknomancer | i knew 100fps wasnt possible with video playback |
| 10:44:43 | markun | ok :) |
| 10:45:05 | Teknomancer | but my initial thinking was 100fps videos :D |
| 10:45:23 | barrywardell | does anyone know if someone (maybe dan_a?) is working on that nand/ata driver for the sansa? |
| 10:46:00 | markun | maybe Bagder knows |
| 10:46:11 | Bagder | yeah, dan_a works on that |
| 10:46:37 | Bagder | he said he has a version that doesn't fully work |
| 10:46:42 | Bagder | a few days ago |
| 10:46:56 | barrywardell | cool |
| 10:47:14 | Nimdae | i wish i wasn't a hardware/programming idiot :( |
| 10:47:32 | barrywardell | i was going to look at it but no point in duplicating the effort |
| 10:47:38 | jhMikeS | amiconn: what was the FPS on H300 prior? |
| 10:47:45 | scorche | Nimdae: then learn |
| 10:47:45 | amiconn | 60fps |
| 10:48:08 | LinusN | no wonder you get 100fps if you only update 3 pixel lines :-P |
| 10:48:14 | Nimdae | by the time i would be able to do anything useful, it will already be done :P |
| 10:48:25 | Bagder | barrywardell: he was gonna have a go at it some more and then either commit it or post it for help if he didn't get it to work, so I would expect either way within this week or so |
| 10:48:37 | scorche | Nimdae: im sure that there will still be something left for you to do |
| 10:48:45 | barrywardell | ok, i'll be patient then. |
| 10:48:52 | amiconn | LinusN: The 100fps are with full screen update (i.e. without playback) |
| 10:49:17 | * | amiconn wonders whether this might have to do with the ipr write |
| 10:49:38 | LinusN | or with dma priority settings |
| 10:49:47 | jhMikeS | wouldn't it ignore a write to a read only? |
| 10:50:07 | Arathis | btw: where is the difference between "options - playlist options - playlist-catalog" and "tagcache menu - context menu - playlist catalog"? cause when I go through the context menu my playlists won't apear, otherwise the do (h10, playlists either in "Playlists" folder or player root) |
| 10:50:26 | amiconn | jhMikeS: You never know what will happen if you try undocumented things |
| 10:51:31 | jhMikeS | sometimes I don't even know when they're documented :P |
| 10:52:01 | jhMikeS | MPARK? |
| 10:52:05 | Nimdae | i think for now i'll stick to just attempting themes, already spending a lot of time learning other things |
| 10:52:16 | LinusN | i would bet on dma priority problems, that the lcd dma can't be interrupted |
| 10:54:56 | Arathis | barrywardell: was the path to the playlist folder manually edited for the h10? |
| 10:55:22 | barrywardell | Arathis: no, i didn't change anhthing with playlists on the h10 |
| 10:55:35 | jhMikeS | As in try a set_irq_level ? |
| 10:57:07 | LinusN | jhMikeS: no, dma bus priority, not interrupt priority |
| 10:59:04 | jhMikeS | There's MPARK for that and what else? |
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| 11:01:22 | LinusN | the BWC field in DCR |
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| 11:03:24 | Arathis | so how is searched for the playlists in rockbox? |
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| 11:04:22 | LinusN | also, we might have to use dma0 for lcd, as it has higher prio (if it turns out that the lcd dma can't be interrupted) |
| 11:05:21 | amiconn | LinusN: I used DMA3 (lowest priority) for the LCD |
| 11:05:41 | amiconn | DMA0 and DMA1 are the only ones usable for audio, so we can't change that |
| 11:05:51 | amiconn | (unless we don't want dma for audio) |
| 11:06:18 | amiconn | However, I would expect the DMA to continue after being interrupted by a higher priority channel. |
| 11:06:55 | amiconn | The LCD is a nice field for experimentation as I am planning to use DMA2 for (word aligned) ATA DMA |
| 11:07:00 | LinusN | of course, but maybe the lcd controller can't handle it |
| 11:07:34 | LinusN | for some reason |
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| 11:11:33 | MrStein | Hi! Are FairPlay AACs supported, now that Jon "cracked" it ? |
| 11:12:13 | aliask | No. |
| 11:12:52 | barrywardell | Arathis: looks like is looks in /Playlists first |
| 11:13:51 | MrStein | aliask: any chance ? |
| 11:14:01 | MrStein | .. in(near) future ? |
| 11:14:07 | LinusN | barrywardell: huh? |
| 11:14:14 | aliask | MrStein: He's not released the code, so I seriously doubt it. |
| 11:14:16 | LinusN | barrywardell: what looks? |
| 11:14:31 | Paul_the_Nerd | MrStein: Why not just strip them yourself, and then play the DRM-free files? |
| 11:14:53 | barrywardell | LinusN: playlist_catalog.c:42 |
| 11:14:59 | Arathis | barrywardell: yes, looked it up myself. but why aren't my playlists listed in all playlist catalogs? |
| 11:15:23 | LinusN | barrywardell: ignore me |
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| 11:16:02 | MrStein | aliask: ah, I didn't know that. The bastard ! :-) |
| 11:16:06 | linuxstb_ | MrStein: IMO, removing DRM is something you should do immediately when you buy music. There's no point wasting battery in Rockbox decrypting it every time you play it. |
| 11:16:33 | MrStein | OK, thanks for the answers, I was just curious. I don't have a player (yet). |
| 11:16:37 | amiconn | pondlife: around? |
| 11:16:38 | barrywardell | Arathis: ah, it only looks there for the config file though |
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| 11:17:39 | pondlife | amiconn: Yes, just about |
| 11:18:39 | Arathis | barrywardell: where is the context menu configured? |
| 11:19:37 | amiconn | pondlife: WIll you fix the cpu frequency debug menu item so that we can test stuff at 11MHz again? |
| 11:19:55 | pondlife | There's a patch up which does this IIRC |
| 11:20:00 | amiconn | I'm not sure how to do it properly with the boost tracking stuff in... |
| 11:20:38 | barrywardell | Arathis: I think it's apps/onplay.c |
| 11:20:43 | pondlife | justr looking... |
| 11:21:03 | Arathis | barrywardell: but that sounds like the wps context menu |
| 11:21:34 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6200 |
| 11:22:05 | pondlife | May need a bit of resync, but feel free to use it |
| 11:22:18 | pondlife | I can do it tonight perhaps, but am snowed under at the mo |
| 11:22:32 | Arathis | hm, have to got. I'll look at it later |
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| 11:29:22 | jhMikeS | what was the lcd_roll ever used for anyway? |
| 11:30:41 | LinusN | the oscilloscope plugin on the archos, i believe |
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| 11:40:12 | amiconn | jhMikeS: lcd_roll was only used by the old oscillograph plugin |
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| 11:54:58 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, the original lcd_roll() utilised a hardware feature of the lcd controller. No lcd_update() or other measures were needed for rolling |
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| 12:01:27 | amiconn | However, not all lcd controller offer this feature, and even if they do, the orientation might be wrong (e.g. on h300) |
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| 12:10:38 | barrywardell | preglow: i was trying that gpio bitmasking thing but can't get it to work |
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| 12:13:08 | pondlife | amiconn: Just updated debug_menu.c - it should now restore back to default frequency like it used to. |
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| 12:17:29 | jhMikeS | oy I messed up something |
| 12:18:29 | LinusN | pondlife: the original implementation of the debug menu did not unboost, it simply set the frequency |
| 12:18:50 | LinusN | behind the back of the boosting mechanism, so to speak |
| 12:19:20 | LinusN | iirc |
| 12:20:33 | amiconn | I wonder whether it should do it the official way, i.e. unboost an then set idle mode |
| 12:20:44 | pondlife | That's what it does now |
| 12:21:01 | pondlife | Unboosts until at level 0, then sets default frequency |
| 12:21:11 | pondlife | It used to set default, not idle. |
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| 12:26:50 | amiconn | idle frequency is default, done the official way |
| 12:27:06 | * | daurn|laptop hugs Gene Krupa |
| 12:28:33 | preglow | barrywardell: no? what exactly did you try? i've made it work just fine |
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| 12:30:49 | barrywardell | preglow: GPIOL_OUTPUT_VAL = ((0x100 | 0) << 5); turns off all bits of GPIOL |
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| 12:33:27 | preglow | barrywardell: does it nwo |
| 12:33:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: whats the story with sh and target tree? |
| 12:33:53 | preglow | barrywardell: i've only tried it on two ports, though, and that'd be the nano backlight ports |
| 12:33:57 | preglow | barrywardell: what target is this? |
| 12:34:00 | barrywardell | h10 |
| 12:34:12 | barrywardell | PP5020 |
| 12:34:55 | barrywardell | i wonder what happens if I try it with a different address for GPIOL (add 0x800 or something) |
| 12:35:07 | preglow | barrywardell: on nano, that's got nothing to say |
| 12:35:15 | preglow | anyway, perhaps this isn't a pp5020 feature |
| 12:35:59 | barrywardell | i'll test it on my gf's ipod color when i get a chance |
| 12:36:25 | barrywardell | i think that's pp5020 too |
| 12:47:58 | PaulJam | JdGordon: have you already looked at the scrollbar issue when list-titles are enabled? |
| 12:48:13 | JdGordon | PaulJam: no |
| 12:48:22 | JdGordon | it was only a small fix wasnt it? |
| 12:49:19 | PaulJam | yes |
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| 12:52:02 | PaulJam | apps/gui/list.c line 359 : replace "display->nb_lines" with "lines" |
| 12:52:45 | JdGordon | that works 100% ? |
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| 13:04:46 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: you going to laneway? |
| 13:04:53 | JdGordon | laneway? |
| 13:06:26 | daurn|laptop | http://www.moshtix.com.au/record.asp?leventid=10278 |
| 13:07:14 | JdGordon | sounds interesting... what type of music are the bands? ive never heard of any of them |
| 13:07:30 | aliask | Indie... alternative |
| 13:07:59 | JdGordon | damn shame, its on saturday.... |
| 13:08:27 | aliask | And it's $80 |
| 13:08:50 | JdGordon | do they block off the lanes in the city or something? |
| 13:09:06 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: they block caledonican lane |
| 13:09:11 | daurn|laptop | set up a stage at one end |
| 13:09:16 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 13:09:20 | daurn|laptop | entry @ the other |
| 13:09:25 | daurn|laptop | and a lounge on the side |
| 13:09:33 | daurn|laptop | meant to be really good |
| 13:10:09 | daurn|laptop | god, falls tickets are hard |
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| 13:11:03 | daurn|laptop | outbid on 4 |
| 13:11:08 | daurn|laptop | 4 still open |
| 13:12:02 | daurn|laptop | some going for $300 each |
| 13:12:02 | daurn|laptop | :S |
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| 13:16:38 | daurn|laptop | aliask: what music do you like? |
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| 13:18:53 | aliask | daurn|laptop: Alternative, Rock, Hip-hop (esp. Australian), Dance, House, Trance, Chillout, Contemporary Classical, with the occasional acoustic track and a particular soft spot for Trip-Hop |
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| 13:22:48 | daurn|laptop | lol |
| 13:22:52 | daurn|laptop | thats about everything |
| 13:23:10 | daurn|laptop | damn, lost another auction |
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| 13:24:14 | aliask | I hope these people are satisfied by their purchase... |
| 13:24:28 | aliask | I bet the sellers are :) |
| 13:24:51 | daurn|laptop | heh |
| 13:25:07 | daurn|laptop | i know people that have sold theirs for $350+ |
| 13:25:20 | daurn|laptop | then bought more for $250 or so |
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| 13:26:28 | daurn|laptop | eg of auction: 190045283650 |
| 13:26:35 | JdGordon | another satisfied customer :D |
| 13:26:35 | daurn|laptop | arg |
| 13:26:41 | daurn|laptop | my keyboard is broken |
| 13:26:41 | daurn|laptop | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2-x-FALLS-FESTIVAL-TASMANIA-TICKETS_W0QQitemZ190045283650QQihZ009QQcategoryZ113783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 13:26:44 | JdGordon | 2 targets to move |
| 13:27:59 | aliask | Do people do this for a living? It's pretty lucrative |
| 13:28:26 | JdGordon | whats the markup they are getting? |
| 13:28:30 | daurn|laptop | its called scalping |
| 13:28:32 | JdGordon | its btw illegal :p |
| 13:28:48 | aliask | Yeah, I know... but I never realised the profit margin was so high |
| 13:29:00 | * | JdGordon has a freeking massive blow fly flying around his room |
| 13:29:08 | aliask | Oh that's the worst |
| 13:29:12 | daurn|laptop | buy them @ release for $120 a pop |
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| 13:29:22 | JdGordon | fark |
| 13:29:23 | daurn|laptop | sell them 2 months later @ $260 a pop |
| 13:29:39 | daurn|laptop | its not bad |
| 13:29:40 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 13:30:41 | daurn|laptop | theres one there i want to get |
| 13:30:52 | daurn|laptop | 4 tickets i think will go for $1000 |
| 13:30:59 | daurn|laptop | - split them up |
| 13:31:08 | daurn|laptop | give 2 to friends for $275 each |
| 13:31:11 | daurn|laptop | one for myself |
| 13:31:14 | daurn|laptop | sell the other |
| 13:31:52 | JdGordon | if I do cvsdo add a new folder, then do cvs diff -uN why does it not go into the new folder and get the new files there? |
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| 13:39:11 | JdGordon | Bagder: does Tomal use a different name on flyspray, or is he not in the developers grounp or sometihng? |
| 13:39:25 | Bagder | I don't know |
| 13:39:34 | JdGordon | damn, ok |
| 13:44:36 | pondlife | I could really do with someone who understands the PCM output looking at the sim's sound.c... |
| 13:45:42 | pondlife | If http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6267 can be resolved, I can continue... but I'm stuck |
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| 13:47:43 | aliask | I've created a single patch file (hope it applies right) for sdoyon's massive patch to voice splash screens at FS #6159, I really think that it should be committed (if the code looks good). |
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| 13:48:11 | JdGordon | aliask: yay, point me to it? |
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| 13:48:15 | aliask | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6159 |
| 13:48:22 | JdGordon | :p |
| 13:48:41 | aliask | My patch is a bit dodgy because for some reason CVS diff wasn't working |
| 13:48:54 | * | JdGordon gets a clean cvs tree |
| 13:49:36 | * | JdGordon currnetly has 6 trees.. and im not sure what is in 5 of them :p |
| 13:49:50 | * | pondlife had something similar once |
| 13:50:10 | pondlife | ...but realised that it was too many trees for my limited time. |
| 13:50:39 | JdGordon | the biggest problem is doing a checkout is about 50mb! |
| 13:50:42 | JdGordon | and a bit slow |
| 13:50:58 | aliask | I keep a clean cvs locally so I only have to cvs update |
| 13:51:21 | JdGordon | i tried doing that.. but it didnt work :p |
| 13:51:25 | pondlife | I keep 2 trees, one CVS and one experimental |
| 13:51:30 | JdGordon | aliask: you wernt joking about diff being wierd :p |
| 13:51:48 | aliask | Ya |
| 13:52:29 | aliask | Does it apply cleanly though? |
| 13:52:42 | JdGordon | yeah, had to use p2.. but it worked |
| 13:52:47 | pondlife | Who's the pcm_ daddy? Seriously. |
| 13:53:11 | aliask | Not me! |
| 13:53:13 | * | aliask runs |
| 13:53:33 | JdGordon | aliask: ill do a proper cvs diff and upload that to make things easier |
| 13:53:58 | JdGordon | ... that is... unless it doesnt co-operate |
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| 13:57:07 | JdGordon | the patch is boring... the first half of it is just changing str() to ID2P() :p |
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| 13:58:49 | JdGordon | aliask: do you know why he has commented out 6 of the main menu items? |
| 13:59:01 | aliask | Oooops |
| 13:59:05 | aliask | That's mine |
| 13:59:15 | aliask | They're not useful for an ipod with no screen :) |
| 13:59:24 | JdGordon | ... |
| 13:59:48 | JdGordon | anything else you accidently changed? |
| 13:59:56 | aliask | Shouldn't be |
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| 14:01:10 | JdGordon | ok, no big deal.. ive removed that part from the patch |
| 14:01:29 | Kitt0s | éöö |
| 14:01:29 | Kitt0s | hmm |
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| 14:02:14 | Kitt0s | anyone uses the custom display width things? because when i go in the FM Radio on my X5 the display goes back to the normal |
| 14:03:28 | aliask | JdGordon: Please update the patch |
| 14:03:34 | aliask | On flyspray |
| 14:03:37 | JdGordon | is there any speed difference with indexing and using pointer arithmatic on arrays? |
| 14:03:58 | Kasperle | why do you require registration to use the bugtracker btw? |
| 14:04:05 | JdGordon | aliask: ok |
| 14:05:03 | aliask | i'm going to sleep, thanks JdGordon |
| 14:05:13 | JdGordon | gnite |
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| 14:10:02 | JdGordon | Bagder, LinusN, anyone else... objections to 6159? the patch is farily clean, adds a tiny drop of overhead for spoken screens, but not a significant amount (i tihnk) |
| 14:10:31 | LinusN | JdGordon: see my comment |
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| 14:11:15 | PaulJam | Kasperle: i think the main reason for the registration is, that you get notified if someone adds a comment to your task (for example when a dev needs additional information) |
| 14:11:20 | JdGordon | ah, you commented while i had it open |
| 14:11:42 | JdGordon | main_menu.c was a mistake, its fixed in the patch i uploaded.. i tihnk ill delete aliask's verison |
| 14:12:38 | * | JdGordon thinks cond_talk_idarray() looks a bit funny |
| 14:13:43 | JdGordon | specifically long *id = ids; createing an extra vairable because the parameter variable name is plural? |
| 14:14:21 | LinusN | looks unnecessary |
| 14:14:31 | JdGordon | it is |
| 14:14:33 | LinusN | could be because the argument is supposed to be const |
| 14:16:08 | LinusN | and the queue variable should be a bool |
| 14:16:40 | LinusN | no need for parenteses around id++ |
| 14:16:54 | JdGordon | they are nice to have tho |
| 14:18:51 | LinusN | because? |
| 14:19:18 | JdGordon | because, when your half asleep, its easier to see the () instead of tryoing to remeber precendece |
| 14:19:26 | JdGordon | its not like they add to actual code size |
| 14:19:53 | LinusN | no they don't, but they add to fear, uncertainty and doubt :-) |
| 14:20:07 | * | JdGordon thinks they would decrese them |
| 14:20:28 | LinusN | because then you will never learn the operator precedence |
| 14:21:35 | JdGordon | I'd still rather add them in and not need them, instead of trying to debug the damn code because they are not there |
| 14:22:15 | LinusN | makes the code harder to read, if you ask me |
| 14:22:20 | LinusN | but that's me |
| 14:22:29 | JdGordon | ok |
| 14:22:58 | JdGordon | changing topics... any idea how many bytes the english.lang file would need for the lang buffer? |
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| 14:23:25 | LinusN | when i see lots of parentheses, i tend to think (1) this guy doesn't know C, or (2) what is special about this code, why does he need parentheses? |
| 14:23:57 | LinusN | JdGordon: i'm not worried about the lang buffer, i'm worried about the voice file |
| 14:24:12 | JdGordon | I always put unnescacery parenthases around big if staements |
| 14:24:19 | JdGordon | yeah, I know.. changing topic... |
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| 14:24:53 | JdGordon | I tinhk its silly to impose a huge buffer on people who never use translation, and it keeps increasing because of the greeek language |
| 14:24:53 | daurn|laptop | woot |
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| 14:25:00 | daurn|laptop | i'm connected STRAIGHT |
| 14:25:08 | daurn|laptop | though my modem |
| 14:25:13 | daurn|laptop | never done this before |
| 14:25:16 | LinusN | JdGordon: huge? 21k? |
| 14:25:23 | daurn|laptop | - my compy is wide open to the world |
| 14:25:24 | JdGordon | well... umm... |
| 14:25:31 | JdGordon | compared to english.lang? |
| 14:25:32 | daurn|laptop | JoeBorn: hi ;) |
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| 14:26:54 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: english lang is almost 10KB |
| 14:27:18 | JdGordon | k |
| 14:27:40 | JdGordon | so 11kb that could be used by the codec... :p |
| 14:28:06 | LinusN | 11kb mp3, almost a second of audio wasted |
| 14:28:12 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:28:24 | Genre9mp3 | the second largetst lang file is russian which is 15KB but it hasn't been updated for months |
| 14:29:12 | godzirra | sigh. I cna't find an X5 for less than like $250 bucks :/ |
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| 14:31:52 | daurn|laptop | buy an S60! |
| 14:32:08 | LinusN | a volvo? |
| 14:32:16 | Genre9mp3 | haha |
| 14:32:21 | daurn|laptop | a gigabeat |
| 14:32:42 | JdGordon | the voice buffer is stolen from the codec buffer isnt it? |
| 14:33:28 | LinusN | yes |
| 14:33:41 | JdGordon | so whats the prolem with a large voice file? |
| 14:33:46 | LinusN | less than 1.5MB on the archos |
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| 14:33:53 | JdGordon | ah |
| 14:34:04 | JdGordon | those bloody archos again! :p |
| 14:34:08 | LinusN | yup :-) |
| 14:34:23 | Genre9mp3 | the voice files are actually encoded in mp3 format? |
| 14:34:49 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:34:50 | JdGordon | but we were going to hit the brick wall soon anyway for them right? |
| 14:35:17 | * | JdGordon doesnt know how voice works, so if this sounds stupid, ignore me... |
| 14:35:28 | Genre9mp3 | I wonder when speex gets supported if we could benefit by that |
| 14:35:33 | JdGordon | actually.. just ignore that |
| 14:35:35 | Genre9mp3 | ta least for the swcodec |
| 14:35:39 | daurn|laptop | /ignore JdGordon |
| 14:35:41 | Kasperle | PaulJam: I see. Having to register everywhere these days is a tad annoying though :/ |
| 14:35:42 | JdGordon | i was gonna make a suggestion, but it was stupid :p |
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| 14:36:26 | lostlogic | speaking of using ram for things I don't use... |
| 14:36:34 | lostlogic | *disables dircache and tagcache in his personal build* |
| 14:36:35 | LinusN | someone should create a voice file from that patch and see where we land |
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| 14:36:51 | * | JdGordon doesnt know how to |
| 14:37:35 | JdGordon | could the voice files, in theory, so id 1-X is in lang.voice.1 and X-Y is in lang.voice.2? |
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| 14:38:28 | JdGordon | this way the voice files wouldnt be held to a total size |
| 14:38:41 | Bagder | it would be bad |
| 14:38:44 | JdGordon | It would be annoying having to swap between te 2 files tho |
| 14:38:48 | Bagder | yes |
| 14:40:46 | JdGordon | is there a way to create the voice files on linux? the wiki only says windows, unless im blind |
| 14:41:34 | JdGordon | Bagder: I understand it would be bad, but if that is the only way voice could fit in the archos, I tihnk its better than nothing... this wouldnt be needed for SWCODEC |
| 14:42:12 | Bagder | I doubt Archos users would agree |
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| 14:42:32 | JdGordon | why should they hold the rest of us back? |
| 14:42:33 | Bagder | I think they'd rather just not have every word voiced, like now |
| 14:42:55 | Bagder | uh? I didn't say they should |
| 14:43:02 | JdGordon | sorry, im half asleep |
| 14:43:20 | JdGordon | if words can be skipped from the .voice then awesome |
| 14:43:28 | Genre9mp3 | would target-specific voice files have any sense? |
| 14:43:31 | * | JdGordon doesnt use voice, but likes the idea |
| 14:43:38 | Bagder | Genre9mp3: they already are/can be |
| 14:43:43 | Genre9mp3 | ah |
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| 14:45:22 | godzirra | daurn|laptop: why wold I buy an S60? work isnt even happening on the S series gigabeat I haer. |
| 14:45:29 | godzirra | I can spell. sigh. |
| 14:45:37 | Bagder | daurn is our least faithful rockboxer |
| 14:45:41 | godzirra | Ahh. |
| 14:45:56 | Bagder | but I agree with you |
| 14:46:02 | godzirra | I'm a fairly faithful rockboxer. At the moment i'd settle for something with drag and drop via usb ;p |
| 14:46:04 | daurn|laptop | i want more tarets |
| 14:46:07 | Bagder | why pick a non-rockbox target, unless you intend to work on a port |
| 14:46:10 | daurn|laptop | *targets |
| 14:46:12 | daurn|laptop | :P |
| 14:46:14 | * | godzirra nods at badg |
| 14:46:16 | godzirra | bagder |
| 14:46:25 | godzirra | damn nick complete not knowing what I mean and listening to what I type. |
| 14:46:33 | godzirra | sorry. Its a bit early here. ;p |
| 14:46:46 | * | Bagder has 3 Rockbox targets, and three Sansas that aren't targets (yet) ;-) |
| 14:47:01 | godzirra | I'd love to make a port of rockbox on a lot of devices, but I don't have the faintest clue how I'd start. I'm not at all strong in C. |
| 14:48:12 | godzirra | *sigh* Windows is killing me. It keeps stalling at 34 minutes left. |
| 14:48:27 | daurn|laptop | left till...... |
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| 14:49:01 | godzirra | YES! It went past it. |
| 14:49:06 | godzirra | stupid error on a BATTERY for a desktpo. |
| 14:49:06 | godzirra | sigh. |
| 14:49:11 | godzirra | reinstaling |
| 14:49:19 | godzirra | I PQ-Magicked my primary drive together |
| 14:49:22 | godzirra | and xp hated it |
| 14:50:38 | leftright | Bagder: the "on" and "Off" buttons on my black AJB-R are very floppy, are your buttons also floppy on your AJBR ?, trying to determine whether this is standard |
| 14:51:00 | Bagder | yes they are |
| 14:51:29 | leftright | ah so thats standard, ok i got my unit from sbay today and easn't sure, thanks |
| 14:51:33 | godzirra | I love my H120.. sigh. IF I could get an h120 with a color screen and more hard drive space I'd be in heaven. |
| 14:51:52 | preglow | eh, do people have choice of wav bitrates in current builds? |
| 14:52:12 | Genre9mp3 | godzirra: H100 with colour screen? |
| 14:52:39 | godzirra | Genre9mp3: huh? |
| 14:53:00 | godzirra | Yes, what I want doesn't exist, to my knowledge ;) |
| 14:53:03 | Genre9mp3 | <godzirra> I love my H120.. sigh. IF I could get an h120 with a color screen and more hard drive space I'd be in heaven. |
| 14:53:20 | Genre9mp3 | well the closest to that would be...guess... H300 |
| 14:53:37 | godzirra | Except the h300 is totally different, at least layout/button wise. |
| 14:53:38 | daurn|laptop | say, h340? |
| 14:54:00 | godzirra | And I'm really picky, so i'd have to see one before I buy one. Which is why I still havent bought one ;) |
| 14:54:21 | Genre9mp3 | you can't have all in life... :P |
| 14:54:31 | blue_lizard | dont forget that the h300 series is skinnable |
| 14:54:45 | Bagder | skinnable? |
| 14:54:45 | godzirra | skinnable? |
| 14:54:47 | preglow | jhMikeS: yo, the wav bitrate is 1400kbps even if mono is selected |
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| 14:55:11 | Genre9mp3 | blue_lizard: I guess you're talking about the InSkin mod |
| 14:55:16 | godzirra | no idea what that is |
| 14:55:23 | blue_lizard | Genre9mp3: sorry but yes exactly |
| 14:55:33 | godzirra | thats ok. im off to breakfast. |
| 14:55:34 | * | godzirra waves. |
| 14:56:14 | Genre9mp3 | I like how my h340 looks like... I would never rip it's skin off! |
| 14:56:22 | blue_lizard | me too |
| 14:56:40 | blue_lizard | but it is an option and some people may use that |
| 14:57:05 | blue_lizard | and it is a good way to meke the device unique |
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| 14:57:15 | Genre9mp3 | well... it wasn't meant as an option actually.. |
| 14:57:29 | blue_lizard | like rockbox? |
| 14:57:40 | Genre9mp3 | heh |
| 14:57:52 | Genre9mp3 | I mean from iriver |
| 14:58:11 | blue_lizard | the iriver people shurely newer wanted to make a device where alternative software would run |
| 14:58:30 | daurn|laptop | why don't they make the h340 anymore? |
| 14:58:36 | blue_lizard | but a comunity found the way to make that option |
| 14:58:41 | Genre9mp3 | Companies should start want that! ;) |
| 14:59:03 | blue_lizard | because the design of the h300 series is outdated |
| 14:59:19 | daurn|laptop | they didn't even replace it :S |
| 14:59:29 | daurn|laptop | its STILL better than other players |
| 14:59:31 | Genre9mp3 | because the iriver people are out of their minds |
| 14:59:38 | blue_lizard | and afaik they got some problems |
| 14:59:47 | godzirra | Thats why they have the h10 now :/ |
| 14:59:49 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: the h10 is supposedly the h300 replacemtn |
| 14:59:49 | Genre9mp3 | blue_lizard: problems? |
| 14:59:50 | godzirra | because they're all insane. |
| 14:59:56 | godzirra | JdGordon: riiiight. |
| 14:59:56 | blue_lizard | with drm and made some contracht with m$ |
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| 15:00:12 | blue_lizard | i read something about that in their forum some time ago |
| 15:00:21 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: h10 is in 40gb? |
| 15:00:31 | Genre9mp3 | up to 20gb |
| 15:00:32 | JdGordon | 20g |
| 15:00:42 | daurn|laptop | shouldn't we be gettin MORE capacity with age, NOT less |
| 15:00:42 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 15:01:02 | Bagder | NEXBlack! |
| 15:01:06 | LinusN | indeed! |
| 15:01:12 | Bagder | http://www.telechips.com/product/p_023.htm |
| 15:01:22 | * | JdGordon wants to buy a iriver clix and port rb to that :) |
| 15:01:25 | LinusN | next victim |
| 15:01:52 | Bagder | JdGordon: go ahead, don't let us stop you |
| 15:01:53 | Genre9mp3 | clix? eeeeew |
| 15:01:53 | blue_lizard | it would be really interesting if and how the rockbox can be ported to zune |
| 15:02:03 | JdGordon | Bagder: after exams :) |
| 15:02:09 | godzirra | I would totally buy a zune if rockbox was ported to it. |
| 15:02:17 | Genre9mp3 | NEXBlack? |
| 15:02:25 | daurn|laptop | i would buy an S60 |
| 15:02:28 | blue_lizard | that would be really a punch in the face og m$ |
| 15:02:31 | Bagder | Genre9mp3: yes, http://www.frontierlabs.com/ |
| 15:02:33 | daurn|laptop | - it IS the zune, with a 60gb hdd |
| 15:02:44 | JdGordon | no wifi! |
| 15:02:47 | daurn|laptop | and no wifi :P |
| 15:02:51 | Bagder | it isn't, just close |
| 15:03:10 | daurn|laptop | but, i don't see rockbox using wifi anyway |
| 15:03:12 | LinusN | www.frontierlabs.com is such an inaccessible flash orgy |
| 15:03:31 | Genre9mp3 | indeed |
| 15:03:37 | preglow | i don't even have flash |
| 15:03:38 | Bagder | I don't see wifi as the biggest problem with a zune port ;-) |
| 15:03:38 | preglow | the gods be thanked |
| 15:03:39 | LinusN | i though iriver.com was bad |
| 15:03:41 | preglow | i'd rather not visit such sites |
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| 15:04:14 | preglow | a welcome side effect being that i also can't waste time on youtube |
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| 15:04:35 | godzirra | Flash for site navigation is FRACKING EVIL! |
| 15:04:47 | Genre9mp3 | a jog dial and a function button? that's all? |
| 15:05:03 | JdGordon | try playing doom with that! :D |
| 15:05:04 | * | preglow smells bsg |
| 15:05:11 | Bagder | well, there's a range of tcc760 and similar targets, so a first port would be nice |
| 15:05:17 | godzirra | Mmmmmbsg. |
| 15:05:31 | * | Bagder runs off |
| 15:05:37 | Genre9mp3 | argh.. the site is awful indeed! |
| 15:05:48 | JdGordon | 1am... bed time |
| 15:05:50 | JdGordon | gnite all |
| 15:05:51 | godzirra | everytime it loads something, its below the fold. |
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| 15:05:55 | godzirra | horrible site design |
| 15:05:57 | godzirra | night jd |
| 15:06:40 | godzirra | Ew. AA's? |
| 15:06:44 | godzirra | Thats so 1990's. |
| 15:06:56 | LinusN | that's so wonderful |
| 15:06:59 | blue_lizard | and so expensive too |
| 15:07:05 | godzirra | I dunno. I can't stand non rechargables anymore. |
| 15:07:13 | godzirra | And dont give me teh spiel about how I can get rechargable AA's ;p |
| 15:07:24 | LinusN | was just about to :-) |
| 15:07:28 | godzirra | I figuerd ;) |
| 15:07:42 | blue_lizard | no get the rayovac recharger unit |
| 15:07:45 | godzirra | I've decided that compaq laptop keyboards suck. i really don't type this bad. |
| 15:07:51 | godzirra | badly. |
| 15:07:53 | blue_lizard | the you can recharge batteries |
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| 15:07:55 | godzirra | Or maybe its just early... |
| 15:10:12 | preglow | LinusN: arm? dual core? |
| 15:10:21 | LinusN | AA is nice because you can find new batteries in just about any store, no need to carry a charger and look for outlets when you run out of juice |
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| 15:10:41 | amiconn | hmpf |
| 15:10:47 | amiconn | JdGordon left... |
| 15:11:20 | amiconn | Most space saving potential for archos voice lies in langv2 |
| 15:11:36 | amiconn | ...and device specific voice files created from that |
| 15:11:42 | LinusN | true |
| 15:12:03 | blue_lizard | LinusN: you still have the 1.5V - 1.2V problem |
| 15:12:21 | amiconn | There's a lot of features in the langfiles which are plain impossible on archos, and should neither be included in .lng nor .voice for them |
| 15:12:37 | * | amiconn should check out Bagder's patch :/ |
| 15:12:38 | LinusN | yes, if the unit isn't properly designed |
| 15:13:04 | blue_lizard | some devives are designet that way |
| 15:13:28 | blue_lizard | there is even a posibillity to avoud the usage of rechargables in another way |
| 15:13:31 | amiconn | blue_lizard: Devices _properly_ designed for primary cell operation have to work within a range of 1.0..1.5 V per cell |
| 15:14:13 | amiconn | So there shouldn't be anything that stops you from operating such devices from rechargeables |
| 15:14:20 | blue_lizard | amiconn: that may be your opinion but must not be the opinion ofthe hardware developer |
| 15:14:41 | amiconn | It's not just my opinion |
| 15:15:05 | amiconn | It's a technical guideline established decades ago |
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| 15:19:48 | amiconn | At least the archos guys seem to know this rule. The Ondio runs from 3 AAA cells, and it operates down to ~2.7V |
| 15:22:20 | blue_lizard | 3x1.2=3.6 or have i misunderstood something? |
| 15:23:24 | amiconn | yes |
| 15:23:38 | amiconn | So it's perfectly possible to operate the Ondio from rechargeables |
| 15:23:43 | amiconn | I do that all the time |
| 15:24:08 | blue_lizard | i had some devices where the voltage was the most important |
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| 15:24:34 | blue_lizard | the device give up after some time but the batteries were still very well usable in an lamp |
| 15:25:08 | blue_lizard | with rechargables the device gave up even sooner |
| 15:25:30 | blue_lizard | but if your archos works that nice |
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| 15:28:04 | amiconn | Primary cells not completely used up by a device doesn't necessarily imply the device is improperly designed. It also depends on how much current the device needs |
| 15:28:41 | amiconn | The voltage of primary cells tends to drop under load, especially towards the end of their life |
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| 15:46:54 | pondlife | "You may have tried to use a naughty URL to interact with the database backend using SQL injection. If this is true, go to the corner and think about your actions. When you return, please do not do it again!" - lol |
| 15:49:01 | Febs | Does anyone have any idea what "move to next folder" option the guy on the user list is asking about? |
| 15:49:39 | pondlife | It's an option where playback will automatically play the next folder when one folder finishes. |
| 15:50:02 | pondlife | Not sure how it interacts with non-folder playlists or tagcache. |
| 15:50:08 | Febs | Right, but last I checked, that was called "Auto change directory." |
| 15:50:17 | pondlife | Yep |
| 15:50:27 | Febs | We haven't called it "move to next folder" for a long time. |
| 15:50:29 | preglow | i think it was called move to next folder ages ago |
| 15:51:43 | Febs | In fact, that change may have been made before there was even a build available for the nano. |
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| 15:52:25 | preglow | mno, don't think so |
| 15:53:28 | preglow | november 2005 |
| 15:53:50 | preglow | nano port existed then, but hadn't done so for a very long time |
| 15:54:20 | Febs | In any event, he also claims not to have the pause on headphone unplug option, which was added Sep 26, so I suspect he is using an older build. |
| 15:55:04 | preglow | oh yes |
| 15:55:18 | preglow | if he calls it "move to next folder", it's very, very old |
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| 15:56:14 | * | preglow supposes he should write a manual entry on dithering soon |
| 15:56:28 | Febs | 13 November 2005: new label for "move to next folder" option: "Auto change directory" |
| 15:56:43 | Kitt0s | 31 Oct 19:49Jens Arnoldfirmware/export/config-iaudiox5.h 1.40 X5 can flip the display. |
| 15:56:45 | Kitt0s | FIANLY! |
| 15:57:24 | nls | preglow, please do, saw your explanation in the forum and that was very good. :-) |
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| 15:59:13 | preglow | i also suppose i should refine the dithering logic to not apply it when it's not needed, but i'd need to add some new codec flags for that |
| 15:59:32 | amiconn | preglow: E.g. for 16bit lossless data... |
| 15:59:40 | preglow | amiconn: when you don't use effects |
| 15:59:50 | amiconn | Ah, that too |
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| 16:00:02 | preglow | amiconn: no, that in combination with 16 bit lossless data |
| 16:00:10 | amiconn | yes |
| 16:00:19 | preglow | since eq and crossfeed are high precision |
| 16:00:36 | amiconn | Hmm, might be hard to implement, e.g. when crossfading between 2 lossless 16bit tracks and no other effects applied |
| 16:00:41 | nls | It's always nice when people that wrote the code and actually know what a feature does writes some documentation instead of someone else semi guessing ;-) |
| 16:00:41 | preglow | but anyway, to do this, i need to make the codecs able to tell dsp their true sample precisionm |
| 16:00:47 | preglow | nls: yes, i agree |
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| 16:01:31 | preglow | amiconn: also, all lower bit depths should not be dithered as well, but i don't think we'll see data at lower than sixteen bits too often |
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| 16:02:07 | preglow | amiconn: did you test out the dithering, btw? |
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| 16:03:01 | preglow | bah, i've put the dithering option between sq eq and hw eq entries |
| 16:03:08 | preglow | i'll fix that later |
| 16:03:51 | preglow | nls: do we currently add labels to all sections whether it's needed or not? |
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| 16:05:48 | nls | i _think_ we add them on a when needed basis... |
| 16:07:20 | nls | but then the whole thing is a mess with different sectioning, i think some of the settings use \subsubsection or somesuch and are expandable and some use itemize... *goes to check* |
| 16:07:21 | sIRwa2pda | hello. does anyone know if its posible to run a jukebox rec. on usb power. instead of batteries? |
| 16:07:33 | preglow | i'll just go read the guidelines |
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| 16:11:43 | amiconn | sIRwa2pda: nope |
| 16:12:11 | preglow | do anyone think i should throw in a line explaining the specs of the dithering in the manual for those interested, or should i just assume they'll look in the source? |
| 16:12:33 | preglow | a lot of audiophiles can't read source, so i think i'll do so |
| 16:12:42 | petur | I'd put it in the manual |
| 16:12:56 | nls | sounds like a good idea |
| 16:13:22 | petur | it stesses the fact that we're paying attention to audio quality |
| 16:13:29 | petur | stresses even |
| 16:14:03 | preglow | yeap |
| 16:14:10 | sIRwa2pda | tnx <amiconn> could find anything on forum. (still browsing) |
| 16:17:22 | sIRwa2pda | could = couldnt. |
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| 16:22:59 | sIRwa2pda | because batteries give 4.8V and usb can give 5V. |
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| 16:23:49 | sIRwa2pda | maybe if i solder the usb conector to the battery connector. |
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| 16:30:58 | l_r | hello |
| 16:33:24 | petur | wow |
| 16:33:33 | l_r | hello |
| 16:33:46 | * | petur just read the log of last night about h300 lcd update using dma |
| 16:34:15 | l_r | currently i have the apple firmware and rockbox in dual boot. i wonder if it's possible to install ipod linux as third choice.. |
| 16:35:31 | petur | god that frontierlabs site is horrible |
| 16:35:32 | amiconn | petur: Read this morning's log as well... there might be a serious problem |
| 16:38:34 | petur | oh :( |
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| 17:06:22 | lostlogic | woah, disabling dircache caused what sounds like misalignment of the buffers... |
| 17:06:25 | nls | amiconn, LinusN did some h300 lcd-dma stuff that got reverted see cvs history for 21 Dec 00:52 |
| 17:06:48 | nls | anyways off to get seriously messed up ;-) |
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| 17:16:33 | lostlogic | wtf, how would disabling dircache cause the pcmbuf to be misaligned?! |
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| 17:56:37 | lostlogic | nope ,I was just retarded, it was something else I'd messed with and forgotten about. |
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| 18:20:36 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: I wanted to ask about the BRP as my week is getting hectic and wanted to do some scheduling for testing |
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| 18:20:57 | Davide-NYC | are you 'close' or has something 'come up'? |
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| 18:21:36 | Davide-NYC | afk for 3 min |
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| 18:22:43 | * | petur thought it was called MRP, not BRP :D |
| 18:25:07 | lostlogic | what's a MRP or a BRP? |
| 18:25:39 | petur | 'M'onster recording patch <-> 'Big' recording patch |
| 18:26:06 | lostlogic | ah |
| 18:26:12 | Davide-NYC | back |
| 18:26:36 | Davide-NYC | petur: I have been asking for a line in the WRS display showing input source |
| 18:26:51 | petur | I know |
| 18:26:51 | Davide-NYC | do you agree with this? would you help me hget it "in' the WRS? |
| 18:27:17 | Davide-NYC | FMRec and Line-In rec during recording look identical |
| 18:28:04 | petur | I agree, yes, but wanted to work on other things tonight |
| 18:28:25 | Davide-NYC | Cool. All I wanted to know was whether others thought it a good idea |
| 18:28:41 | petur | lostlogic: last version of that patch is at 418KB |
| 18:28:52 | Davide-NYC | Mwahahaha |
| 18:29:07 | Davide-NYC | I must go. |
| 18:29:11 | petur | Main reason is he let his editor cleanup trailing whitespace |
| 18:29:17 | Davide-NYC | No answer form jhMikeS |
| 18:29:20 | Davide-NYC | :-( |
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| 18:40:03 | theshado1 | Ok the instructions for the iRiver H10 (5Gb) are incomplete... it says to copy the H10.mi4 file to the system directory, then it says to actually install the firmware download the version you want (Current/Daily/CVS) but doesn't mention any thing else... and now when I start the H10 its telling me to go to the iriver website to get the restore tool. |
| 18:40:08 | theshado1 | Can anyone help me? |
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| 18:55:17 | lostlogic | TheShadowx: just download the zip file of the version you want and extract it to the player |
| 18:55:34 | lostlogic | (I'm guessing, because I've never used an H10, but that's how it works on othe rplayers) |
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| 19:06:47 | pondlife | lostlogic: Don't suppose you have any further idea why playback shutdown causes a queue overflow? I'm about to have a look. |
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| 19:09:35 | lostlogic | pondlife: nothing's come to mind |
| 19:09:45 | pondlife | Just wondered, no worries. |
| 19:10:12 | lostlogic | I'm just enjoying my cache-free audio (since I never really browse the tree and I don't use tagcache, yay #ifdefs!) |
| 19:10:29 | pondlife | Booo! Less testing! |
| 19:10:41 | pondlife | I don't use Rockbox, but I do test it! |
| 19:10:46 | lostlogic | pondlife: from what continent hail thou? |
| 19:10:48 | lostlogic | haha! |
| 19:10:56 | pondlife | Europe |
| 19:11:05 | pondlife | Eng-er-land |
| 19:11:24 | lostlogic | hehe :) gotcha −− so you rockbox in your after and before work hours mostly? |
| 19:11:40 | pondlife | Yes. Although work hours have been rather long recently. |
| 19:11:54 | pondlife | If I get up at 6am, I can get some hacking in |
| 19:12:25 | lostlogic | jeepers. |
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| 19:12:40 | pondlife | :) |
| 19:12:53 | lostlogic | (I get up at 6 often, but that's to go work out, not to hack rockbox most of the time) |
| 19:12:57 | pondlife | Wooah, total sim crash! |
| 19:13:25 | pondlife | Its last words were "Restarting playback" |
| 19:13:34 | lostlogic | I'm still intrigued by your sim testing −− I have used the sim only to find bugs in the sim really :-\ |
| 19:13:57 | pondlife | It's prettty good for playback. No good for pcmbuf or timing stuff though |
| 19:14:09 | lostlogic | nod |
| 19:14:26 | pondlife | And it's in need of a fix for pcm pausing which is stopping me working on the voice-while-paused stuff. |
| 19:15:23 | pondlife | If you can fix http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6267 then you will be a total hero. |
| 19:15:31 | pondlife | Well, even more than normal. |
| 19:15:35 | lostlogic | hah. |
| 19:15:49 | lostlogic | I'll try to look at it today or tomorrow (which usually means this ewekend) |
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| 19:16:06 | pondlife | The fix is probably to crib the normal SWCODEC pcm code across and fiddle into a sim-shaped hole. |
| 19:16:26 | lostlogic | hopefully can be done more simply than that |
| 19:17:01 | pondlife | True, but I don't like to simulate at a higher level than needed. There's too much sim-only code. |
| 19:17:30 | pondlife | The sim should start when we poke at ports, not before. |
| 19:17:37 | lostlogic | mm |
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| 19:20:16 | lostlogic | this channel is not nearly juvenile enough... "he said 'poke at ports', heheeh". |
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| 20:08:53 | amiconn | Yay! |
| 20:09:08 | * | amiconn found the LCD DMA problem in conjunction with playback |
| 20:09:18 | pondlife | Tell us more |
| 20:09:24 | amiconn | Frame rate now down to "only" 91fps, but working stable... |
| 20:09:39 | petur | \o/ |
| 20:10:14 | amiconn | Now on to implemeting partial update with dma (requires dma isr) |
| 20:10:46 | pondlife | lostlogic: The crossfade setting crash is caused by the exiting codec queuing an unwanted Q_AUDIO_STOP in the middle of playback restarting. |
| 20:10:55 | amiconn | The problem was that the dma transfer needs to be explicitly finished (by setting DSRn to 1) |
| 20:10:59 | kaspar | hello |
| 20:11:19 | kaspar | where do I find the microphone driver code on the x5? |
| 20:11:35 | pondlife | lostlogic: I have a band aid, which is a safe fix, but introduces another global boolean, just for this purpose, so not overly keen to commit it. |
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| 20:12:56 | amiconn | It looks like if that isn't done, preparing the new transfer starts it prematurely, so it uses incorrect register contents depending on the timing (other dma channels active etc) |
| 20:13:29 | pondlife | Would this discovery perhaps be relevant to recording at all? |
| 20:13:49 | amiconn | Hmm, but fire.rock now stops playback on H300 |
| 20:13:56 | amiconn | Does that also happen with cvs? |
| 20:14:03 | * | petur tries |
| 20:14:12 | * | pondlife does too |
| 20:14:33 | petur | yes |
| 20:14:49 | pondlife | Too slow, but yes here too |
| 20:14:53 | petur | noty enough yields it seems |
| 20:15:05 | petur | now skipping alot |
| 20:15:06 | amiconn | Okay, so it's not a problem caused by lcd dma :) |
| 20:15:29 | amiconn | Other plugins with heavy lcd updating are working fine while playback |
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| 20:15:43 | amiconn | (tested plasma and oscilloscope in scrolling mode) |
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| 20:26:35 | petur | aaargh... |
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| 20:26:50 | * | petur finds out why his interrupts no longer worked |
| 20:26:55 | petur | bloody typo |
| 20:27:57 | AdamKili | hey if i update a 5G iPod (not 5.5) to the latest Apple firmware, will it affect the installation of rockbox? (I havn't put it on yet) |
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| 20:28:54 | petur | worst case you need to reinstall the rockbox bootloader |
| 20:29:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | Actually that's the only case. :) |
| 20:30:05 | AdamKili | so Apple's newest firmware doesn't cause compatibility issues, it's the 5.5G iPod's slightly different hardware that does. No need to worry since I have a 5G iPOd |
| 20:30:09 | AdamKili | right? |
| 20:30:43 | * | petur doesn't know at all |
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| 20:33:10 | AdamKili | can anyone else confirm before i update my 5G? |
| 20:33:41 | hcs | I can't confirm, but I haven't heard of any problems. |
| 20:34:12 | AdamKili | ok good |
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| 20:35:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | AdamKili: The 5.5G is actually the same hardware, other than the disk, but it's actually the fact that the software is slightly different from the firwmare update they have you download. |
| 20:35:23 | hcs | ack |
| 20:35:43 | Paul_the_Nerd | Updating the firmware on your own is fine though |
| 20:42:28 | lostlogic | darnit, pondlife left |
| 20:45:33 | petur | yes, he tends to do that from time to time ;) |
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| 20:49:43 | TheShadowx | Alright... I've decided that I will forever use Rockbox :P |
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| 20:50:13 | lostlogic | TheShadowx: :) |
| 20:50:38 | sunlord | hmm, I can't seem to find rockboot.bin |
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| 20:52:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | sunlord: It's not in the folder you made it in? |
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| 20:55:11 | sunlord | forget it, I think the manual on the website was better than on pdf |
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| 21:03:57 | sunlord | my 3g is so mongo, can't charge via usb |
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| 21:07:45 | AdamKili | i know this isn't really the place to ask, and that RockBox has games, but do u guys know if theres way to get free games for Apple's firmware? Just wondering if someone's done it |
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| 21:17:55 | Kitt0s | wich file in the CVS is the fm radio ? |
| 21:18:16 | Kitt0s | nvm |
| 21:18:17 | Kitt0s | :] |
| 21:18:23 | AdamKili | how does dual-booting rockbox work? i read somewhere about holding the menu button, so does it automatically go to Apple's firmware unless you hold the Menu button? |
| 21:18:37 | hcs | vice versa |
| 21:19:04 | hcs | boots up into rockbox normally |
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| 21:23:33 | dan_a | barrywardell: Are you around? |
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| 21:23:39 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: Are you around? |
| 21:23:45 | barrywardell | yes |
| 21:24:20 | Link2999 | nebody mind helpin me out wit my ipod thing |
| 21:24:33 | dan_a | I saw in the logs that you might be interested in seeing where I'm up to with the Sansa flash driver - would you like me to mail it to you? |
| 21:25:23 | barrywardell | yes please :) |
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| 21:26:19 | Davide-NYC | Link2999: just aska specific question |
| 21:26:29 | Link2999 | is it worth it? |
| 21:26:36 | Davide-NYC | that is not specific |
| 21:26:36 | Link2999 | j/w |
| 21:26:42 | barrywardell | dan_a: my nick at gmail |
| 21:26:55 | | Quit menosm (Success) |
| 21:27:03 | dan_a | With a dot in it? |
| 21:27:17 | Link2999 | idk if id wanna replace my firmware |
| 21:27:25 | Paul_the_Ner1 | Link2999: Your iPod thing is "is it worth it"? |
| 21:27:26 | barrywardell | yes,sorry, barry.wardell |
| 21:27:38 | Paul_the_Ner1 | Why not read the WhyRockbox page and see if you want the features it offers. |
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| 21:27:39 | barrywardell | although i think gmail ignores the dot anyway |
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| 21:27:42 | Link2999 | nah i wanna know if i should replace it |
| 21:27:56 | Link2999 | pros an cons basicly |
| 21:28:03 | Link2999 | ill check it out i guess |
| 21:28:10 | PaulJam | Link2999: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox |
| 21:28:30 | Link2999 | k |
| 21:28:49 | barrywardell | yeah, gmail ignores the dot so barrywardell would be fine either |
| 21:28:58 | PaulJam | and rockbox is dualboot, so you can still use apple os |
| 21:29:15 | Link2999 | k thats good |
| 21:29:45 | Link2999 | any estimate on how long this should take >__> theres like so many instructions |
| 21:30:01 | sunlord | I hit rockbox in the browser and loading... comes up in a split second then disapears and nothing happends |
| 21:30:07 | Link2999 | nm^ |
| 21:30:07 | Link2999 | 1 page |
| 21:31:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | sunlord: i take it you haven't actually read how to use it in the manual? |
| 21:31:31 | Lear | sunlord: when you're in rockbox, re-starting it doesn't help much. :) |
| 21:31:37 | sunlord | i'm doing it as we speak :P |
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| 21:32:20 | sunlord | but in the pdf its "make an overview over the menu here" |
| 21:32:42 | sunlord | "include an overview of the menu structure here" |
| 21:33:04 | sunlord | in rockbox-ipod3g-20061101.pdf |
| 21:33:15 | bascule | Hi, anyone here able to help me with a VMware problem? |
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| 21:33:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | sunlord: It should still tell you what button to press to get into the menu. Or you could guess, and tap the menu button. :-P |
| 21:36:45 | blue_lizard | bascule: maybe if you tell what your problem is somebody could help |
| 21:37:01 | blue_lizard | normally nobody would ask you what the problem is |
| 21:37:37 | sunlord | I don't find my music :P |
| 21:38:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | sunlord: If you copied it over using iTunes, I suggest reading about Tag Cache, either in the manual or the TagCache wiki page |
| 21:38:43 | Lear | Could be in a hidden folder. Tell Rockbox to show all files. |
| 21:38:47 | sunlord | I used xplay |
| 21:39:01 | Link2999 | sorry im a noob when it comes to these things but what does this mean? "Next, create a folder on the computer’s hard drive and download the following file to that folder".... does it just mean create a folder in the ipod folder or to the desktop or what? |
| 21:39:24 | blue_lizard | no on the computer |
| 21:39:31 | blue_lizard | as it says |
| 21:39:31 | Link2999 | what drive |
| 21:39:44 | blue_lizard | the drive of bill gates if posible |
| 21:39:51 | blue_lizard | if not use one of yours |
| 21:39:51 | Link2999 | any? |
| 21:39:52 | Link2999 | irdk |
| 21:40:09 | bascule | OK, I installed VMware smoothly, but the '\\debian\user' virtual drive has not been created. How can I either set it up, or mount my windows drives in VMware? |
| 21:40:14 | Paul_the_Nerd | Seriously, it doesn't say because it doesn't matter. |
| 21:40:20 | barrywardell | dan_a: i'm going out for an hour or so. i'll check my mail when I get back :) |
| 21:40:20 | Link2999 | k |
| 21:40:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | bascule: Are you running VMWare? |
| 21:40:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | Like, is the image active? |
| 21:40:38 | bascule | yes |
| 21:40:44 | blue_lizard | '\\debian\user' is not adrive |
| 21:40:52 | dan_a | barrywardell: no problem :) |
| 21:40:55 | blue_lizard | it is a share of the virtual computer |
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| 21:41:06 | bascule | I know how to find it, it's just not being recognised |
| 21:41:29 | blue_lizard | open explorer and type in \\debian |
| 21:41:36 | bascule | when i ran VMware, it flashed up that it could not find/setup the home drive |
| 21:41:47 | bascule | i think that's the problem |
| 21:42:02 | blue_lizard | so th eimage is not running |
| 21:42:19 | bascule | ? |
| 21:42:46 | blue_lizard | i really dont want to be offending |
| 21:42:58 | blue_lizard | but if you are not even able to get that ding to run |
| 21:43:10 | blue_lizard | what do you want with the rockbox sources? |
| 21:44:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | bascule: Have you tried going through the Network Neighborhood? |
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| 21:44:56 | bascule | blue_lizard: i've run the compile, the rockbox.zip is sitting waiting in the build folder, but i cannot access from windows |
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| 21:45:42 | blue_lizard | open explorer and type in \\debian |
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| 21:46:48 | bascule | blue_lizard: from IE 'windows cannot find '\\debian'' |
| 21:46:59 | blue_lizard | no IE |
| 21:47:07 | blue_lizard | windows explorer the filemanager |
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| 21:48:19 | bascule | yes, i know, it should work from IE, but I've also done it from start>run... with the same result |
| 21:48:42 | bascule | for some reason VMware has not set up the \\debian path |
| 21:49:12 | blue_lizard | do you have an ip adress inside vmware? |
| 21:49:14 | bascule | i'm happy just to either mount a windows drive from within VMware, or set it up again |
| 21:49:35 | bascule | blue_lizard: how do I check? |
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| 21:49:43 | blue_lizard | ifconfig -a |
| 21:49:50 | blue_lizard | as root if possible |
| 21:50:19 | blue_lizard | i dont use the vmware image and therefore dont know exactly waht is installed and what not |
| 21:50:34 | blue_lizard | but debian is not that complicated if it runs |
| 21:51:14 | bascule | neither ifconfig or ipconfig work, unknown command |
| 21:51:35 | ender` | try ip addr |
| 21:51:41 | hcs | /sbin/ifconfig |
| 21:52:12 | bascule | 'bash :ip :command not found :( |
| 21:54:07 | Link2999 | in the 1st or 2nd step in what program do u press start - execute |
| 21:54:15 | * | [IDC]Dragon does a cvs update since 5 month... |
| 21:54:18 | bascule | can't find sbin |
| 21:54:51 | Link2999 | Locate the player by opening a command window. You can do this by clicking “Startâ€, “Execute†and typing cmd. Press Enter to execute that command. Now change directory to the folder you created and run the following commands: |
| 21:54:56 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: Be prepared for the shock ;) |
| 21:55:43 | [IDC]Dragon | probably I need a newer gcc? |
| 21:55:53 | Lear | Possibly... |
| 21:56:16 | amiconn | For sh1? Sure, we practically require _rockbox patched_ gcc 4.0.x now |
| 21:56:31 | [IDC]Dragon | patched? |
| 21:56:46 | amiconn | You can compile with older (and unpatched) gcc, but the binaries will then end up even larger (no -Os possible) |
| 21:56:57 | amiconn | Yes, to work around an sh-elf-gcc bug |
| 21:57:17 | amiconn | I'm not up to fixing gcc the right way, but the patch works reliable |
| 21:57:33 | [IDC]Dragon | I still have 3.3.5 |
| 21:57:40 | [IDC]Dragon | your patch? |
| 21:58:35 | * | amiconn points towards The Friendly Rockbox Wiki :) |
| 21:58:36 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 21:59:02 | [IDC]Dragon | ;-) |
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| 21:59:52 | petur | TFRW = TRFW? |
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| 22:00:03 | petur | euh RTFW |
| 22:00:28 | amiconn | lol |
| 22:01:10 | TheShadowx | LOL |
| 22:01:40 | * | TheShadowx has the sudden flash of a bash.org quote |
| 22:02:13 | * | petur observes how the philips usb code starts without printing errors :D |
| 22:02:31 | * | amiconn is fighting with coldfire dma and interrupts |
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| 22:05:12 | SpooForBrains | hello all |
| 22:06:51 | * | [IDC]Dragon compiles with his old toolchain... |
| 22:07:47 | [IDC]Dragon | it's bitching about gnu make < 3.81 |
| 22:07:53 | petur | hahaha |
| 22:07:56 | SpooForBrains | I wonder if anyone has any info on whether Rockbox will run on the PSP in any form? |
| 22:08:00 | * | petur was expecting that |
| 22:08:00 | [IDC]Dragon | what'll be better then? |
| 22:08:08 | petur | 3.81 |
| 22:08:17 | * | ender` yawns |
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| 22:08:34 | [IDC]Dragon | I mean, what features does that introduce? |
| 22:08:51 | petur | SpooForBrains: *maybe* the sim (SDL) ? |
| 22:09:20 | Paul_the_Nerd | [IDC]Dragon: Faster build times |
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| 22:09:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | At least, I think so |
| 22:10:00 | SpooForBrains | petur: yeah, the only reference on the web says pretty much that ... |
| 22:10:02 | linuxstb_ | SpooForBrains: No, it won't run, but you could port it - either natively (completely replacing the PSP's operating system), or port the "ui simulator" to run under the original OS. |
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| 22:10:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | Porting the UI simulator is probably the better bet. |
| 22:10:52 | dan_a | Paul_the_Nerd: Is there a problem with the forums at the moment? |
| 22:11:13 | petur | seems like ti |
| 22:11:17 | petur | *it |
| 22:11:18 | Paul_the_Nerd | Seems to be the hosting |
| 22:11:33 | linuxstb_ | Who/what is SMF? |
| 22:11:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Simple Machines Forums |
| 22:11:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | The software we run |
| 22:11:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | But MisticRiver isn't responding either. |
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| 22:13:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | At least ours gives some sort of useful message. |
| 22:13:29 | Paul_the_Nerd | Or if not useful, at least a message |
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| 22:14:11 | blue_lizard | wha would anybody put effort into porting rockbox to psp? |
| 22:14:22 | AdamKili | how do i make fonts bigger? |
| 22:14:46 | petur | menu -> browse fonts |
| 22:14:48 | dan_a | They seem to be different problems - misticriver's DNS doesn't resolve for me, but the forums have a problem with the database. Of course, if the database is at misticriver.net, that would explain the problem. |
| 22:15:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | blue_lizard: If you can only afford one portable device, period, the PSP isn't actually a bad choice just for the multifunctionality of it, but the audio format support is quite a bit lacking |
| 22:15:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | dan_a: MisticRiver provides the hosting for our forums. |
| 22:16:01 | blue_lizard | i understand but i dont see the psp as an reasonably acceptable mp3 player |
| 22:16:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | blue_lizard: So what you're saying is, if they can only buy one thing, and have bought the PSP, they should just give up and accept it? |
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| 22:16:55 | blue_lizard | nno but for the psp there are other projects that help playing mp3s |
| 22:16:58 | * | Lear notices the cloak in the topic... |
| 22:17:30 | * | petur peeks from under his cloak... *BOO* |
| 22:17:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | blue_lizard: And how many of them do as much as Rockbox already does, though, including format support etc? |
| 22:17:38 | blue_lizard | it is like porting rockbox to native i386 |
| 22:17:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | blue_lizard: Have you *seen* the UISimulator? |
| 22:17:55 | blue_lizard | nono |
| 22:18:01 | blue_lizard | not for development |
| 22:18:11 | blue_lizard | for playing the mp3s |
| 22:18:35 | blue_lizard | i use the simulator to begin to write for rockbox |
| 22:18:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | And how many of the PSP audio apps offer the format support and audio functionality of Rockbox? |
| 22:19:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | petur: Have they begun handing them out? |
| 22:19:17 | Paul_the_Nerd | BTW, Forums seem to be back |
| 22:19:50 | petur | no idea... there was a round of handing out some time ago |
| 22:20:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | petur: Ah, couldn't remember if you'd had one before, I don't pay attention to things. :-P |
| 22:20:09 | petur | *looks at scorche* |
| 22:20:46 | SpooForBrains | Paul_the_Nerd: "a bit lacking"? No ogg/flac/pretty much anything but MP3 support, no playlists to my knowledge, no shuffle ... |
| 22:20:54 | SpooForBrains | or rather, no shuffle between albums |
| 22:21:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | SpooForBrains: I tend toward the understatement. The PSP is a game system with DAP functionality anyway, it was an afterthought whether Sony pretends it isn't or not. |
| 22:22:25 | blue_lizard | i understand the psp hardware more as an video device and not as an audio one |
| 22:22:52 | SpooForBrains | blue_lizard: even in that regard, Sony have managed to cripple it |
| 22:22:57 | blue_lizard | quite reverse to the h300 as an example |
| 22:23:16 | blue_lizard | where i dont find it usefull for playing videos |
| 22:23:25 | SpooForBrains | still, it's a beautiful piece of engineering and it COULD be so much better |
| 22:23:32 | blue_lizard | but thats maybe because my eyes are to bad |
| 22:23:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | blue_lizard: And yet people watch video on it, because it's the only pocket sized thing they have with video playback. |
| 22:24:11 | * | petur wonders how linuxstb is coming along with sound in video playback ;) |
| 22:24:49 | amiconn | Yay! Partial update working w/ DMA |
| 22:25:14 | amiconn | But, lcd_update() @ 124MHz is now slower than wiithout DMA, due to the increased # of waitstates |
| 22:25:22 | amiconn | Need to experiment... |
| 22:25:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | petur: I think that it should just be enabled, damn the slowdown, and let everyone switch to asking when we'll optimize it rather than when we'll implement it. |
| 22:25:28 | petur | duh |
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| 22:25:47 | SpooForBrains | also, has anyone in here had any experience with nextway's D-cube? |
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| 22:27:37 | AdamKili | petur: i select browse fonts but it doesn't do anything. do i need to install some fonts? |
| 22:27:56 | petur | yes, download from daily builds page |
| 22:30:46 | bascule | quit |
| 22:30:49 | bascule | exit |
| 22:30:55 | petur | rotfl |
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| 22:31:31 | SpooForBrains | heh, he got there in the end |
| 22:31:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Does anyone else hear a word sounding vaguely like "waffle" every time they see "rofl" rather than imagining laughter? |
| 22:31:54 | * | SpooForBrains raises hand |
| 22:31:57 | hcs | yes, and the 't' in there confused me |
| 22:32:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | t is old school |
| 22:32:22 | SpooForBrains | "loll" is the same |
| 22:32:35 | * | petur doesn't like to get reminded he's getting old |
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| 22:32:53 | SpooForBrains | regular IRC does bad things to my vocabulary |
| 22:33:14 | SpooForBrains | I know I've been online too much when I start SAYING "sigh" instead of actually sighing |
| 22:33:26 | ender` | haha |
| 22:33:28 | petur | waffle |
| 22:33:39 | ze | SpooForBrains: actually i used to do that, long before i got on irc |
| 22:33:45 | SpooForBrains | and I caught a yawn over IRC once |
| 22:33:53 | ze | heh |
| 22:34:01 | SpooForBrains | someone typed *yawn* and damn my eyes, i caught it |
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| 22:35:20 | * | Paul_the_Nerd is tempted to 'waffle' any time he would laugh now. |
| 22:35:56 | * | ender` yawns all the time :) |
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| 22:36:44 | * | [IDC]Dragon just flashed an oversized rombox into his 512k flash :-) |
| 22:37:17 | [IDC]Dragon | and I'm test driving how rockbox is like, these days |
| 22:39:25 | amiconn | \: |
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| 22:41:16 | amiconn | Funny how everything becomes roughly half-size when feeding the data into the lcd controller too fast |
| 22:41:45 | [IDC]Dragon | what happenend to the fonts? |
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| 22:41:53 | amiconn | ? |
| 22:42:03 | [IDC]Dragon | none are in the zip |
| 22:42:14 | amiconn | They're included when making fullzip |
| 22:42:24 | [IDC]Dragon | ah, ok |
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| 22:42:43 | [IDC]Dragon | any other "bonus"? |
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| 22:44:52 | amiconn | Wow, 170fps @ 124MHz with 4 waitstates >:-) |
| 22:45:35 | [IDC]Dragon | what are you working on? DMA for which display? |
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| 22:46:39 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: DMA for the H300 LCD |
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| 22:47:04 | sunlord | omg how fucked scrolling is :\ |
| 22:47:20 | Davide-NYC | amiconn: 170fps? |
| 22:47:28 | [IDC]Dragon | to have LCD blit parallel to MPEG decoding? |
| 22:47:32 | amiconn | Yes, and 106fps at 45MHz |
| 22:47:48 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: No, no yielding while doing the dma |
| 22:48:01 | amiconn | That seems to hang rockbox under certain conditions |
| 22:48:02 | Davide-NYC | Is that not amazing? |
| 22:48:53 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: And besides, we can't use DMA for MPEG blitting (as that does YUV->RGB on the fly) |
| 22:49:45 | [IDC]Dragon | teach that to the DMA! |
| 22:49:53 | amiconn | haha |
| 22:50:43 | Moos | wow incredible stats amiconn ! |
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| 22:51:11 | Moos | will that be adaptable to others targets in the futur? |
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| 22:51:59 | amiconn | Perhaps h1x0 (with little benefit), definitely not the X5 |
| 22:52:01 | [IDC]Dragon | didn't Linus say DMA is impossible, because of some hardware design stupidity? |
| 22:52:20 | Moos | amiconn: ok |
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| 22:54:34 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: High-speed RAM write isn't possible due to hardware design |
| 22:54:57 | amiconn | DMA is possible, but for some reason it looks like Linus believed the coldfire only has 2 DMA channels |
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| 22:55:17 | amiconn | It actually has 4 of them, just only 2 can be used as audio DMA |
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| 22:55:50 | amiconn | The 4th channel will be put to good use for ATA DMA soon :) |
| 22:56:23 | amiconn | (and that is possible for all coldfire targets, but only for aligned transfers) |
| 22:56:27 | [IDC]Dragon | woot |
| 22:57:11 | Moos | indeed |
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| 22:57:25 | [IDC]Dragon | the settings became strange, with a scrolling list of e.g. dB values |
| 22:58:02 | amiconn | It's a bit strange at first, but I actually like the list |
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| 23:01:59 | * | Davide-NYC likes the list as well |
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| 23:04:19 | * | petur discovers jello biafra visits Belgium next week |
| 23:04:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:04:45 | petur | too bad it's only spoken word |
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| 23:07:16 | * | Genre9mp3 doesn't like the lists :/ |
| 23:07:52 | Davide-NYC | Actually I'd like to ammend my comment above: |
| 23:07:57 | * | Davide-NYC doesn't mind the lists |
| 23:08:23 | amiconn | This lcd update speed is outright amazing.... |
| 23:08:36 | * | amiconn just optimised the partial update, getting rid of the isr |
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| 23:09:34 | * | scorche looks at petur |
| 23:10:15 | | Join topbloke [0] (i=top_blok@adsl-75-5-36-54.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:10:25 | Genre9mp3 | "The 4th channel will be put to good use for ATA DMA soon" does this mean that there is room for optimizing ATA, too? |
| 23:10:26 | * | petur looks away again |
| 23:10:34 | Genre9mp3 | for coldfire targets that is |
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| 23:11:02 | bgmrk | hey hey |
| 23:11:10 | petur | my my |
| 23:11:27 | petur | rockbox will never die |
| 23:11:32 | bgmrk | duh |
| 23:11:36 | bgmrk | ok so.... |
| 23:11:39 | bgmrk | pac box... |
| 23:11:43 | bgmrk | where do i get it? |
| 23:11:48 | Genre9mp3 | long live Rockbox! |
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| 23:11:56 | bgmrk | pacbox..meaning...bacman |
| 23:11:58 | bgmrk | pacman |
| 23:12:02 | petur | bgmrk: you mean the roms? |
| 23:12:16 | petur | sorry, we can't help you |
| 23:12:17 | bgmrk | i thinks that what i need to se packman |
| 23:12:26 | petur | ever tried google? |
| 23:12:28 | bgmrk | grrr i was afraid of that |
| 23:12:34 | bgmrk | just search pacman roms? |
| 23:12:41 | bgmrk | cause i dun get alot when i do that |
| 23:12:45 | petur | don't ask, it's illegal |
| 23:12:52 | topbloke | hey i run rockbox on a jbr20 with 2650 mah batteries and they last a real short time. is this a bug? |
| 23:13:01 | bgmrk | what about...a private chat.. |
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| 23:13:18 | petur | can't be bothered :) |
| 23:13:18 | Genre9mp3 | bgmrk: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginPacbox |
| 23:13:25 | bgmrk | hah fine |
| 23:13:31 | bgmrk | thanx genre |
| 23:13:37 | scorche | topbloke: no...it is probably the problem that affects practically all of those units at one time or another |
| 23:13:49 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/repairbattery.html |
| 23:13:51 | Genre9mp3 | bgmrk: It just says what you need :P |
| 23:14:03 | bgmrk | let me take a look |
| 23:14:11 | topbloke | what problem is that |
| 23:14:20 | topbloke | i bought the batts recently |
| 23:14:21 | scorche | look at the link |
| 23:14:28 | AdamKili | what's replaygain? |
| 23:14:53 | topbloke | o i didnt see that |
| 23:14:54 | scorche | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replaygain |
| 23:14:55 | scorche | ;) |
| 23:15:23 | topbloke | It shuts down or reboots when you squeeze the bumpers - mine does this |
| 23:15:32 | scorche | yeah |
| 23:15:45 | scorche | following those instructions should fix it |
| 23:17:42 | topbloke | my headphone jack is also wonky |
| 23:17:48 | topbloke | do u have a guide on that |
| 23:18:23 | scorche | no |
| 23:18:30 | barrywardell | dan_a: looking at your code, why do you do line 236? |
| 23:18:46 | topbloke | this thing is giving up the ghost |
| 23:19:00 | topbloke | whats a better (cheap) platform the at runs rockbox well |
| 23:19:08 | scorche | depending on what you mean by "wonky", you will probably be fine with just getting a new jack and soldering it in place of the old one |
| 23:19:15 | bgmrk | think ne1 could make the sims for use with rockbox? |
| 23:19:33 | Genre9mp3 | scorche: Why not soldering the existing one? |
| 23:20:12 | scorche | topbloke: go to the wiki page DeviceChart and pick one ;) |
| 23:20:18 | Genre9mp3 | nevermind... just re-read what you've written |
| 23:20:29 | Genre9mp3 | I missed the "depending" part ;) |
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| 23:20:36 | scorche | of course ;0 |
| 23:20:59 | barrywardell | dan_a: also line 251, why do you write 8 instead of 0? |
| 23:20:59 | total-newbie | good night everybody... |
| 23:21:14 | dan_a | barrywardell: The RCA is returned in the high 16 bits. Though when we use it, it's always shifted left 16 bits... |
| 23:21:41 | Genre9mp3 | scorche: And also you are the cloak-master... I have to be nice to you :P |
| 23:22:17 | scorche | the list says to PM me ;) |
| 23:22:18 | topbloke | but do they all run well or just a proof of concept |
| 23:22:23 | barrywardell | dan_a: OK, I understand. what about writing 8 instead of 0? |
| 23:22:25 | scorche | s/list/topic |
| 23:22:26 | dan_a | And line 251 will be... erm... because I'm daft! |
| 23:22:35 | barrywardell | just a mistake? |
| 23:23:04 | barrywardell | that doesn't seem to have any effect |
| 23:23:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | topbloke: Really, if you want one that is running fairly well, I'd suggest the H100 (NOT H10) series, H300 series, or X5 series |
| 23:23:51 | petur | scorche: s/PM//msg :p |
| 23:24:02 | amiconn | Any H300 owner around who wants to try a patch? |
| 23:24:04 | dan_a | barrywardell: just a mistake, and it doesn't seem to make any difference. |
| 23:24:11 | petur | amiconn: yups |
| 23:24:28 | barrywardell | OK, thanks. I'll get back to reading the code now:) |
| 23:24:31 | scorche | petur: hush you! |
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| 23:25:58 | amiconn | amiconn.dyndns.org/h300_lcd_dma.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/h300_lcd_dma.diff |
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| 23:26:57 | amiconn | ~75% speedup at 11 MHz and 45 MHz, ~24% speedup at 124MHZ |
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| 23:29:09 | petur | amiconn: just building a cvs version with test_fps before trying the patch |
| 23:29:23 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox boot takes forever |
| 23:29:33 | [IDC]Dragon | (could be the theme) |
| 23:29:50 | amiconn | Theme loading takes forever if it contains bitmaps |
| 23:29:53 | [IDC]Dragon | what happened to my 3 sec startup |
| 23:29:56 | [IDC]Dragon | ? |
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| 23:30:21 | amiconn | Load a proper theme (i.e. without bitmaps) and startup will be almost as fast as before |
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| 23:30:51 | AdamKili | what setting makes the music pause when scrolling a lot? |
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| 23:31:52 | amiconn | petur: As you're way more interested than me, could you try recording? |
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| 23:32:38 | petur | yup - if cygwin manages to build in time ;) |
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| 23:32:56 | amiconn | LCD DMA shouldn't disturb recording as DMA3 has lower prio than DMA1, but better make sure... |
| 23:33:16 | petur | yes |
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| 23:37:02 | bgmrk | whats the link to plugins |
| 23:37:15 | bgmrk | can't find it |
| 23:37:21 | scorche | all plugins are invluded in rockbox |
| 23:37:25 | scorche | included |
| 23:37:34 | bgmrk | i no....but i'm doing some reading |
| 23:37:38 | bgmrk | and i lost the stupid link |
| 23:37:43 | bgmrk | and i can't find it on their site |
| 23:38:07 | scorche | what site? |
| 23:38:13 | bgmrk | rockbox.org |
| 23:38:26 | ste | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginIndex |
| 23:38:32 | ste | ? |
| 23:38:36 | bgmrk | oo nvm |
| 23:38:40 | bgmrk | just found it |
| 23:38:42 | bgmrk | thanx though |
| 23:39:00 | ste | u're welcome :) |
| 23:40:24 | ste | is there anyone here using amarok to feed ogg files into a rockboxed iPod Video 5g? |
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| 23:42:22 | bgmrk | what else can a person add to rockbox? |
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| 23:42:46 | * | petur waits for the doom wads question |
| 23:43:11 | ste | bgmrk: toxic mp3s inherited from friends :) |
| 23:43:19 | bgmrk | ... |
| 23:43:26 | bgmrk | a special kind of mp3 files? |
| 23:43:27 | petur | how about music? |
| 23:43:31 | bgmrk | got that |
| 23:44:46 | ste | bgmrk: I just wonder if amarok can feed mp3 using its "multimedia device" tab, or I simply create a folder and manually put the files there (via shell or Nautilus) |
| 23:44:59 | ste | bgmrk: sorry, ogg |
| 23:46:25 | bgmrk | lol |
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| 23:47:11 | ste | bgmrk: :P |
| 23:48:14 | bgmrk | i'll update rockbox...and see what other things i can change |
| 23:50:41 | bgmrk | umm yea..updating.... |
| 23:50:44 | bgmrk | how do i do that? |
| 23:50:57 | bgmrk | :) |
| 23:51:05 | petur | unzip a build onto your player |
| 23:51:25 | bgmrk | sounds easy enough |
| 23:51:33 | petur | it is |
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| 23:54:14 | * | petur grabs one of his mics |
| 23:54:25 | * | Davide-NYC wonders why |
| 23:54:35 | petur | dma patch test |
| 23:54:35 | ste | ok, I'm listening to the first ogg of my 30 GB collection... :) |
| 23:54:43 | amiconn | petur: LCD updates are glitch free for you as well? |
| 23:54:46 | bgmrk | ogg? |
| 23:54:46 | ste | rockbox simply *ROCKS* |
| 23:54:59 | ste | bgmrk: yup |
| 23:55:04 | bgmrk | whats that? |
| 23:55:05 | petur | amiconn: yes but haven't done more than browsing |
| 23:55:13 | petur | speeds are nice tho |
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| 23:56:00 | petur | 11MHz: 15->27 45MHz: 60.5->105.5 124MHz: 137.5->171 |
| 23:56:06 | ste | bgmrk: http://www.vorbis.com/ |
| 23:56:11 | Davide-NYC | Has the VMWare image been updated with make 3.81? |
| 23:56:16 | dwihno | How fast does the x5 boot the rockbox firmware? |
| 23:56:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: No. |
| 23:56:59 | bgmrk | ste: ty ty |
| 23:57:07 | Davide-NYC | I have to reinstall and start from scratch so I was hoping... |
| 23:57:09 | amiconn | The lcd controller access timing is out of specs with that patch (cvs uses even more out of specs values, but since the cpu transfers aren't as closely together, it didn't matter as well) |
| 23:57:31 | Paul_the_Nerd | Davide-NYC: It's not really a big deal that it's still using 3.8 |
| 23:57:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | 3.80 |
| 23:58:00 | amiconn | If we want to stay within specs, we'd get 91fps at 45MHz, and 130fps at 124MHz (with the dma patch, without it it would of course be slower than with current cvs) |
| 23:58:13 | Davide-NYC | I will need to find instructions for DLing Unzipping, running config scripts and compiling after I get the VMWare back up |
| 23:58:26 | Davide-NYC | (refering to make3.81 |
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