| 00:00:15 | midgey34 | barrywardell: hmm, thats odd, i thought i added it, its just an empty file |
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| 00:00:26 | barrywardell | amiconn: i'm quite surprised by that. i plan to look into it |
| 00:00:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | theone: The fact that your battery only lasts a few hours at a full charge implies that it's fairly low capacity these days, somewhat old, so it's not as shocking as it could be. |
| 00:00:34 | barrywardell | at a glance, i couldn't see why |
| 00:00:34 | theone | The main thing is that after a full charge it automatically shut down after about 2 hours (restarting[when possible] displays a very low battery level) |
| 00:00:37 | * | petur spots the ByteHunter :) |
| 00:00:45 | * | amiconn is somewhat demotivated to work on rockbox atm :( |
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| 00:01:07 | petur | amiconn: ? |
| 00:01:13 | theone | Paul_the_Nerd, a bad battery? |
| 00:01:13 | barrywardell | amiconn: really i think what needs to be done is a full reworking of the power management mess |
| 00:01:29 | barrywardell | midgey34: np. just wondering |
| 00:01:34 | preglow | barrywardell: in what way is it a mess? |
| 00:01:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | theone: A proper H300 battery should last greater than 16 hours in Rockbox playing MP3s under decent conditions. |
| 00:02:02 | theone | I have also had a lot of lockups too |
| 00:02:14 | theone | that only a paper-clip reset fixed |
| 00:02:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | Are you running a recent official build? |
| 00:02:17 | barrywardell | preglow: i think it's overly complilcated in ways. the first time i looked at the code it took me a long while to figure out what's going on |
| 00:02:19 | amiconn | preglow: Look at powermgmt.c and you'll see |
| 00:02:39 | amiconn | barrywardell: It's partly because of the different charging stragies |
| 00:02:43 | amiconn | *strategies |
| 00:03:02 | preglow | ouch |
| 00:03:11 | amiconn | We have 3 battery systems and 4 levels of control for charging |
| 00:03:12 | Soap | theone: are you the one who posted that batterybench log in the forums recently? |
| 00:03:14 | theone | Paul_the_Nerd, yup: version says: 061107-1937 |
| 00:03:30 | theone | Soap, nope |
| 00:03:43 | amiconn | (a) NiMH (b) Alkaline (+ optional NiMH) (c) LiIon/LiPoly |
| 00:03:59 | barrywardell | amiconn: yes, maybe it will always be complicated because of the different hardware. i wish it were simpler though |
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| 00:04:07 | obo | preglow: I've updated the piezo patch, removing the timer |
| 00:04:14 | preglow | obo: yeah, saw, will look at when i can |
| 00:04:19 | theone | I think that was a CVS build |
| 00:04:19 | midgey34 | speaking power, my h320 shuts off randomly (seems like when the disk spins up) |
| 00:04:27 | midgey34 | does that sound like a loose connection? |
| 00:04:30 | theone | midgey, same here |
| 00:04:49 | theone | (h340 though) |
| 00:04:53 | Soap | sounds like voltage drop under load for sure. |
| 00:05:13 | midgey34 | ah, mine did it randomly a few months ago, it just became more frequent recently |
| 00:05:18 | rasher | Old battery? |
| 00:05:25 | midgey34 | completely |
| 00:05:34 | midgey34 | im planning on replacing it anyway |
| 00:05:40 | midgey34 | the battery i mean |
| 00:05:40 | amiconn | (1) no charging at all (Ondio, iFP) (2) pure hardware charging with no dedicated monitoring, only voltage (h1x0, player) (3) hardware charging with dedicated monitoring (h300, ipod 4G and up, recorder fm/v2) (4) software controlled charging (recorder v1) |
| 00:06:09 | theone | Mine is new...(to me:))...bought used on eBay |
| 00:06:25 | rasher | Sounds like replacing the battery would be a good thing to do |
| 00:06:49 | rasher | A decent battery can be had for very cheap |
| 00:07:01 | rasher | A good one for not quite as cheap |
| 00:07:13 | amiconn | barrywardell: The worst thing is that the software controlled charging algorithm is pretty sophisticated, but still doesn't perform very well |
| 00:07:17 | theone | So is mine just an isolated case? People haven't been reporting random forced shutdowns lately? |
| 00:07:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | theone: Not in the forums or on the patch tracker. |
| 00:07:38 | rasher | Not that I've noticed |
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| 00:08:29 | midgey34 | theone: theres one on the forums, plus you and i |
| 00:08:38 | amiconn | Paul_the_Nerd: Btw, why do I get "reported post" mails from time to time? |
| 00:08:44 | * | amiconn just got one today |
| 00:08:59 | rasher | Yeah, from someone who meant to press "reply", rather than report too |
| 00:09:02 | obo | amiconn: only ipod-video has CONFIG_CHARGING defined - should it be enabled for some of the other ipods? |
| 00:09:11 | Soap | I got one today also. |
| 00:09:14 | Paul_the_Nerd | amiconn, rasher: I'm not really sure why, honestly. |
| 00:09:33 | amiconn | obo: It needs testing. |
| 00:09:36 | barrywardell | amiconn: yes, i've found out the hard way how complicated the charging/power mangement system is in RB |
| 00:09:38 | Paul_the_Nerd | Apparently one of the abilities I've given devs and experts (probably the ability to delete posts) also entitles you to receive reports. |
| 00:09:39 | rasher | SMF seems like a whole barrel of strange |
| 00:09:42 | * | Paul_the_Nerd will look into that. |
| 00:10:01 | Soap | I actually don't think I have the ability to delete posts. |
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| 00:10:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | Soap: Actually, experts can only lock, I believe. |
| 00:10:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hmmm |
| 00:10:21 | Soap | or else that llorean character would be down below 1000 again ;) |
| 00:10:28 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
| 00:11:08 | theone | midgey34, are you talking about this thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7324.0 |
| 00:11:30 | midgey34 | no |
| 00:11:31 | midgey34 | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7215.0 |
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| 00:12:13 | * | Paul_the_Nerd isn't sure. |
| 00:12:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | The only power I'm unsure of is the "Moderate Board" one, which allows replies to locked topics, and may also qualify you as "moderators." I'll investigate further later and see if I can do something about not spamming y'all. |
| 00:13:11 | theone | I guess a battery upgrade is my only option for now; but it does shut down randomly - sometimes while music is playing w/o me touching anything, sometimes while in the file browser, etc.. |
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| 00:14:47 | barrywardell | amiconn: i'll have a look at what i can do to reduce the size for devices that shouldn't power off, or maybe even try to tidy up powermmgmt.c in general |
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| 00:14:56 | theone | "and if I try to start it again, I cannot got further than the Rockbox splash screen, I have to wait fifteen minutes to start the player correctly" <−−- kind of like what I originally asked (does rb recharge the battery) |
| 00:15:08 | barrywardell | i think the changes were very neccesary for LiIon players though |
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| 00:16:41 | theone | I guess new batteries aren't that bad nowadays (WRT price) |
| 00:18:07 | theone | Thanks for the advice, new battery it is |
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| 00:24:25 | barrywardell | midgey34: just using the dummy file works great. I'll commit that but leave the param.h and warnings alone if that's ok? |
| 00:24:36 | midgey34 | sounds fine |
| 00:25:22 | barrywardell | if you ever find out how to fix those warnings, i'd be glad to hear about it |
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| 00:27:12 | midgey34 | i think i has something to do with the dynamiclib flag, but i really have no idea |
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| 00:31:15 | barrywardell | i'd also love to find out why closing the simulator is so broken |
| 00:32:23 | midgey34 | it could be related to the warnings, but i dont really know |
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| 00:36:07 | barrywardell | midgey34: committed. should i leave the task open for the other two parts of the patch? |
| 00:36:30 | midgey34 | umm i dont think thats necessary, do you? |
| 00:36:57 | barrywardell | no, not really. i'll close it |
| 00:37:24 | midgey34 | yay, the commit didnt break anything |
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| 00:40:16 | barrywardell | yay |
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| 01:14:10 | JdGordon | is the middle of the scroll thing on the e200 a button? |
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| 01:14:24 | JdGordon | its marked with 5 on the sim, but doesnt act like i exect from the select button? |
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| 01:16:48 | barrywardell | JdGordon: yes |
| 01:16:48 | JdGordon | crap the gigabeats screen is huge :p |
| 01:16:59 | JdGordon | yes it is a button? |
| 01:17:03 | barrywardell | it works like a select button |
| 01:17:17 | JdGordon | ok, must be something wrong with the sim then? |
| 01:17:19 | barrywardell | the button mappings for the sansa are still pretty messed up |
| 01:18:07 | barrywardell | they need to be tested and adjusted. someone posted suggestions for an improved version on the forums |
| 01:18:22 | JdGordon | ah ok |
| 01:19:53 | JdGordon | is that the same for the h10? num 5 doesnt seem to be acting as select |
| 01:20:20 | barrywardell | there is no select on the h10 |
| 01:20:26 | JdGordon | ok |
| 01:21:03 | barrywardell | and a lot of the keymaps for the sansa were copied from the h10 as a starting point |
| 01:21:08 | * | goffa wonders if the gigabeat screen is 9:16 |
| 01:23:01 | goffa | i guess that's jumping the gun though |
| 01:23:24 | goffa | audio has to come first :)... the boys at #gigabeat seem to be making a lot of progress though |
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| 01:26:05 | JdGordon | i love how every single target seems to have different defaults in the sim |
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| 01:26:28 | pawl90 | hi there can anyone tell me how to make the dictionary on rockbox work? i cannot fin those converter files i am supposed to have |
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| 01:26:43 | barrywardell | JdGordon: what do you mean? |
| 01:27:18 | JdGordon | the ifp uses the > mark for current selection, the ipod has a much darker blue background, other small but noticable stuff |
| 01:27:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | Which iPod? |
| 01:27:49 | Paul_the_Nerd | Darker blue compared to what? |
| 01:28:12 | JdGordon | the color/photo target, compared to the other sim targets |
| 01:28:13 | pawl90 | i looked at a page on the rockbox wiki and it said get these prolog files from wordnet and run a program, i have the files from wordnet, but i don't have wn2rdf.pl or rdf2binary |
| 01:29:00 | rasher | pawl90: Those files are in the tools/ dir of the rockbox source |
| 01:29:07 | rasher | Also, ugh prolog |
| 01:29:58 | pawl90 | ok. thanks very much |
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| 01:41:08 | Jack__ | I'm trying to make a theme, but the progress bar on the WPS starts to duplicate itself near the end of each track. Any ideas why? |
| 01:42:03 | Nimdae | setting the end too far? |
| 01:42:18 | Jack__ | What do you mean? |
| 01:42:53 | Nimdae | you set the start and end in the line for it |
| 01:43:01 | Nimdae | i can't remember the line offhand, at work :S |
| 01:43:26 | JdGordon | anyone with a recorder/player handy? |
| 01:44:31 | Jack__ | The line I was using is '%pb|14|8|8|' but the progress bar will just run right off the screen. |
| 01:45:53 | Nimdae | i dunno then |
| 01:45:59 | Nimdae | haven't run into that problem myself |
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| 01:53:45 | Jack__ | Nimdae: I got it, that last eight was causing the problem, and should have been 168. I thought it was how many pixels from the right, and now how many from the left (I believe that's how it works) |
| 01:54:06 | Jack__ | *not |
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| 01:55:51 | rasher | So you were making a 0 pixel wide progressbar |
| 01:55:56 | rasher | That'll confuse it good |
| 01:56:22 | Jack__ | Yes, that I believe was the problem, but this was my first time trying to make a theme |
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| 02:09:09 | ipodpatcherHELP | Hello |
| 02:09:35 | ipodpatcherHELP | Can anyone help me out with ipodpatcher? |
| 02:10:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | What problem are you having? |
| 02:11:16 | ipodpatcherHELP | Hey Paul, its the same one. WHat LIVE cd where you rocomending? |
| 02:11:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | I don't really have a recommendation. |
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| 02:12:53 | ipodpatcherHELP | Well I can't get ipodpatcher to detect my ipod, What should I try to do?! |
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| 02:13:51 | Paul_the_Nerd | What sort of iPod was it? |
| 02:14:26 | ipodpatcherHELP | 4g |
| 02:14:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | Photo/Color, or Grayscale? |
| 02:14:46 | ipodpatcherHELP | $g gray scale and im on ME |
| 02:14:51 | Paul_the_Nerd | Oh, right. |
| 02:14:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | ME. |
| 02:14:53 | ipodpatcherHELP | 4G |
| 02:14:58 | ipodpatcherHELP | ME |
| 02:15:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | As I said, I'd recommend trying it on an actually modern operating system. |
| 02:15:16 | ipodpatcherHELP | You told me to use the LIVECD but there are so many |
| 02:15:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | Knoppix, then. |
| 02:15:42 | ipodpatcherHELP | okay, I'll try it out |
| 02:15:46 | ipodpatcherHELP | thanks |
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| 03:08:00 | JdGordon | can one with any target other than hxxx and ipod please test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6319 ? |
| 03:10:10 | PaulJam | JdGordon: during you button rework, did you change the behaviour that left now exits the view io ports screen? i think previously it was only exited on release of the off/stop button. |
| 03:10:45 | JdGordon | PaulJam: yes, thats possibly one of the byproducts |
| 03:11:05 | JdGordon | should that screen go back to origional button code? |
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| 03:12:26 | PaulJam | now you can't view the ADC_BUTTONS value of the left button, but i can also install an older build to find out the value. |
| 03:12:54 | JdGordon | no, i tihnk it should go back.. |
| 03:13:00 | JdGordon | thats an important screen |
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| 03:19:11 | JdGordon | does anyone know the wiki page with the pics of the different iriver remotes? |
| 03:21:18 | pawl90 | hi anyone, i am trying to make the dictionary work on my ipod, i tried to compile rdf2binary.c, i get the error "Error: c:\rdf2binary\rdf2binary.c: 70 operands of < have illegal types 'pointer to struct_iobuf' and 'int'" |
| 03:21:27 | pawl90 | it comes up twice if that makes any difference |
| 03:22:53 | JdGordon | umm... have you edited the file? |
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| 03:23:06 | JdGordon | if your on linux i can send you the compiled verison, i dnt get those probles |
| 03:23:21 | pawl90 | nope srry im windows. no havn't edited it |
| 03:23:41 | JdGordon | hmm... sorry, cant help you |
| 03:23:55 | pawl90 | the error is in the line " if (in == NULL || idx_out < 0 || desc_out < 0)" apparently |
| 03:24:07 | pawl90 | if anyone can see what is wrong with that |
| 03:25:06 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: do you have a CF card i can borrow |
| 03:25:07 | daurn|laptop | :S |
| 03:25:14 | JdGordon | nope |
| 03:25:17 | Slasheri | that does not make any sense.. |
| 03:25:24 | daurn|laptop | :( |
| 03:25:25 | Slasheri | pawl90: are you using gcc? which version? |
| 03:26:06 | pawl90 | im usin lcc |
| 03:26:12 | pawl90 | shud i have gcc? |
| 03:26:21 | Slasheri | oh, in fact it does make sense |
| 03:26:34 | Slasheri | idx_out == NULL || desc_out == NULL |
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| 03:26:40 | Slasheri | you need to fix that |
| 03:26:51 | Slasheri | that line is incorrect.. |
| 03:27:02 | pawl90 | ok. whats wrong wit it? |
| 03:27:37 | Slasheri | those fd:s are not ints but pointers to FILE struct |
| 03:27:55 | pawl90 | srry i hav no programming knowledge can u just tell me what 2 put? |
| 03:28:12 | Slasheri | if (in == NULL || idx_out == NULL || desc_out == NULL) |
| 03:28:15 | Slasheri | change it that way |
| 03:28:31 | pawl90 | cheers |
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| 03:30:11 | Slasheri | a fix committed, now trying to sleep more :) |
| 03:35:17 | pawl90 | thanks slasheri, dictionary works perfectly |
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| 04:30:58 | flyinghippo | Hm... 5.5G iPods aren't supported, are they? :\ |
| 04:31:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | No. |
| 04:31:16 | short1 | hey i got a little problem... |
| 04:31:31 | short1 | u guys ready? |
| 04:31:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's not like the text disappears after you type it if we don't read it quickly enough. |
| 04:32:01 | short1 | ok |
| 04:32:21 | short1 | well i recently downloaded the newest daily build for my jbr20 |
| 04:32:40 | short1 | and with my broken charger and all i have to charge the batteries seperately |
| 04:33:10 | short1 | and after i put them in and turned on the jbr it gave a level of 98% |
| 04:33:22 | short1 | it was like that for about 2 hours until i had to turn it off to do something |
| 04:33:39 | short1 | then after i turned it back on, my battery level was down to around 20% |
| 04:34:26 | short1 | u guys follow that? |
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| 04:34:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | Unfortunately, I don't have much knowledge about the JBR. |
| 04:35:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | But, how old are the batteries? |
| 04:35:10 | short1 | they r fairly new |
| 04:35:23 | short1 | engerizer's NIMH batteries |
| 04:35:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | And is it a JBR v1? |
| 04:35:39 | short1 | yes |
| 04:35:55 | Paul_the_Nerd | If you squeeze the bumpers does it turn off / reset? |
| 04:36:04 | short1 | no |
| 04:36:10 | Paul_the_Nerd | I've heard about loose connections, that can cause battery issues. |
| 04:36:21 | short1 | ok |
| 04:36:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | I don't know where in the wiki the page is, but there's one describing it. |
| 04:37:02 | short1 | well this just started last night after i unzipped the nov 10 build |
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| 04:37:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | Correlation does not imply causation. |
| 04:37:43 | Paul_the_Nerd | Have you rolled back to the build you had before and confirmed that it goes away? |
| 04:38:26 | short1 | not yet, i'm currently charging the batt and i downloaded today's build |
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| 04:47:17 | daurn|laptop | JoeBorn! |
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| 04:59:16 | JdGordon | sending out another ping for anyone with a few min to spare and any target other than the hxxx and ipods... |
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| 05:06:32 | daurn|laptop | PING! |
| 05:06:44 | JdGordon | hopefully you mean pong? |
| 05:06:57 | daurn|laptop | please only respond if you have a few min to spare and any target other than the hxxx and ipods |
| 05:07:07 | JdGordon | can u test a patch? |
| 05:07:15 | daurn|laptop | no |
| 05:07:24 | JdGordon | meany |
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| 05:44:46 | wehn | anyone else noticed that the logo displayed when USB is connected doesn't follow alternate screen colours anymore? |
| 05:44:59 | JdGordon | yes |
| 05:47:12 | wehn | other than that the 20061111 daily seems best yet to me. remote displays don't get mashed, lots little bugs fixed. yay! |
| 05:48:07 | JdGordon | which target? |
| 05:49:16 | wehn | h320 |
| 05:49:21 | JdGordon | k |
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| 06:06:33 | wehn | ahh. it's already on FS: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6228 |
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| 06:37:14 | homielowe | how do I load an dictionary database using dict plugin in rockbox, The wiki hasn't bee updated since deletion about dict |
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| 08:27:44 | rakslice | Is there some kind of plugin for customizing the button functions? |
| 08:28:05 | JdGordon | no |
| 08:28:06 | scorche | no |
| 08:28:41 | scorche | you can customize it all you want by opening up the source |
| 08:30:58 | rakslice | k... |
| 08:31:19 | rakslice | I'll have to scour the patch list |
| 08:31:22 | rakslice | basically I want to be able to skip to the next/previous folder in a minimal number of button presses from the playback screen |
| 08:32:18 | JdGordon | shall i assume you have an ipod? |
| 08:32:27 | rakslice | I'm using an archos jukebox recorder |
| 08:32:40 | JdGordon | on+left/right if your lucky |
| 08:33:17 | JdGordon | nope, you cant |
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| 08:34:07 | rakslice | basically if I got to the current track by navigating to it, I can do on,left,down,right,right |
| 08:38:44 | rakslice | I mean, I understand the significance of keeping backwards compatible with the stock interface... |
| 08:39:02 | JdGordon | why do we care about that? |
| 08:39:08 | rakslice | it's just that, well, if I thought the stock interface was okay, I wouldn't be using rockbox |
| 08:39:09 | rakslice | werd |
| 08:39:20 | JdGordon | roockbox is supproted on 7/8 different origioanl firmwares... |
| 08:39:29 | rakslice | right |
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| 08:59:19 | midkay | JdGordon: 7 out of 8? what? |
| 08:59:35 | scorche | i think he was saying 7-8 |
| 08:59:37 | JdGordon | 7 or 8... or something |
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| 09:01:24 | * | JdGordon is > < <-that close to giving up on the settings rework |
| 09:02:00 | midkay | is that to scale? |
| 09:03:20 | JdGordon | its to _a_ scale... |
| 09:05:36 | JdGordon | scorche: can you test http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6319 on your recorder? |
| 09:07:08 | scorche | sure...but one question about that patch... |
| 09:07:53 | scorche | if navi/select/whatever applies change but doesnt exit dir, will hitting left after that cancel that change? |
| 09:08:02 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:08:15 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 09:08:19 | scorche | alright |
| 09:08:26 | JdGordon | morining amiconn |
| 09:08:41 | amiconn | What purpose serves "apply but not exit" wrt settings? |
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| 09:08:53 | amiconn | Most settings are 'live' |
| 09:09:17 | JdGordon | there was a big discussion on the dev ml, that option was the most acceptable |
| 09:09:23 | amiconn | Imho Left, Right and Select/Navi/Play should all do the same |
| 09:09:35 | scorche | i would assume it would be nice for EQ on/off and music related items of that nature |
| 09:10:56 | amiconn | For most settings, pressing Select/Navi would have exactly _no_ effect |
| 09:11:10 | JdGordon | not with this patch... |
| 09:11:24 | amiconn | That'd be major irritating |
| 09:11:39 | JdGordon | all the settings are the same with this... they dont get applied untill selecte d(they sstill talk correclty) |
| 09:11:48 | JdGordon | just use right and it selects and exits |
| 09:11:50 | amiconn | aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! |
| 09:12:09 | JdGordon | reply to the dev ml then... |
| 09:12:16 | amiconn | hrrmmm :(( |
| 09:12:18 | * | JdGordon is happy putting in options for the options |
| 09:12:27 | amiconn | urgh :((( |
| 09:13:52 | * | amiconn gets severely pissed and wonders where the simplicity of rockbox vanished :( |
| 09:14:19 | scorche | i would think back-cancel select-accept would be much easier and more intuitive |
| 09:14:28 | * | JdGordon thinks amiconn should go back to bed for another few hours and have a proper sunday morning sleep in :p |
| 09:14:44 | amiconn | Hey, it's already past 9 am |
| 09:15:05 | JdGordon | I didnt get out of bed till 10.30 this morning :D |
| 09:15:07 | amiconn | E.g. not having the volume change live anymore (or bass or treble or...) makes these settings very unintuitive |
| 09:15:34 | amiconn | I mean _veerrrryy_ unintuitive |
| 09:15:57 | amiconn | Same goes for lcd brightness, contrast.... |
| 09:16:28 | scorche | i didnt see anything about it changing to not live... |
| 09:17:08 | amiconn | What would be the point of "aceept but not leave" then? |
| 09:17:24 | amiconn | It wouldn't do anything, as simply moving to that line already sets the option |
| 09:18:07 | amiconn | Same goes for leaving with Left and live settings |
| 09:18:28 | scorche | i dont see a point for it honestly |
| 09:18:41 | midkay | i still think leaving needs to be left. |
| 09:18:46 | scorche | as do i |
| 09:18:52 | amiconn | The few settings which are not live are like that for a reason. They require a reboot, or restart of playback, or sth like that |
| 09:19:03 | amiconn | So even for those "a |
| 09:19:11 | amiconn | ccept but not leave" makes no sense |
| 09:19:15 | midkay | i frequently cancel out of settings accidentally. it makes a lot more sense to use left as "this is good, go back to the menu" and something more cancel-like such as OFF/STOP/MENU to cancel. |
| 09:19:26 | scorche | i like the back-cancel select-accept as i said...it seems simplest |
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| 09:19:46 | amiconn | I agree with midkay here |
| 09:19:48 | midkay | back-cancel? not back-accept and leave? |
| 09:20:23 | scorche | well, simplest assuming cancelling is needed |
| 09:20:27 | amiconn | Left isn't really associated as cancel, _because_ most settings are live |
| 09:21:02 | midkay | right, i think settings should stay live, left should be "accept and leave" (as well as select). it's more intuitive to have stop or off or menu as cancel. |
| 09:21:22 | midkay | it's like leaving a menu.. left means "go back", but not "forget what i did here". |
| 09:21:45 | midkay | entering and leaving setting screens should be just like navigating the menus.. in and out, up and down. |
| 09:21:50 | amiconn | Ever since Left became cancel, I often find myself setting the same setting twice... because I set it, then leave with Left .... ARGH! I didn't want to revert!!, enter again, set it, and the have to force myself to use the illogical button |
| 09:22:09 | midkay | amiconn: exactly the same here. i don't know why it hasn't been changed back yet. |
| 09:22:10 | JdGordon | ditto |
| 09:22:24 | scorche | ditto as well...i have just gotten used to it i guess |
| 09:22:30 | Slasheri | hmm, for some situations it might be nice for settings not to be stored on disk unless explicitly told so. That would make it possible to set some settings for the current session only and after restart, everything would be back again |
| 09:22:34 | midkay | it shouldn't be "in and out" for the menus and then "in and in" for the settings. |
| 09:23:11 | amiconn | Maybe the point here is that Left shouldn't be cancel _because_ settings are live, so as it is now, it doesn't act as "cancel" but rather as "revert", and that's what is illogical |
| 09:24:30 | amiconn | If we want it to be consistent, Right (and perhaps even Select) don't need to do anything |
| 09:24:40 | midkay | amiconn: yeah... if you're browsing like a sound menu, you set it how you want to hear it and think "okay, this is what i want, i'm done here" and you want to go *back*, you don't really think of saving it since you're already listening to it. if you don't like the change then you're thinking of "cancel" or "revert" and that comes pretty natural as OFF or STOP. |
| 09:25:02 | scorche | i agree |
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| 09:25:17 | amiconn | At least Right because with Right you enter something in the menu tree... and the individual setting already is the deepest level, so you can enter something there |
| 09:26:21 | amiconn | I never accepted settings with Right before... now I'm forced to |
| 09:26:24 | midkay | indeed.. i think select can save as well in case people want to do that (much like select will enter you into a submenu or setting screen or directory).. using select=save isn't entirely, well, consistent (could be taken to mean 'go deeper') but some people may prefer that. |
| 09:26:41 | amiconn | yes |
| 09:26:44 | midkay | i know select=save has been there for several years at least. |
| 09:27:11 | amiconn | Correct (other than that it is Play on recorders, but that button has the same placement) |
| 09:27:23 | midkay | right. |
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| 09:28:48 | midkay | so i think realtime setting applying in conjunction with left = "leave this setting screen, i set it how i want it" and select="i'm ok with this" (both being the same functionality) and off/stop/menu being "cancel out, i don't like this" is how it should really be. |
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| 09:43:28 | amiconn | midkay: Almost, but in fact the function of Left could be described as 'Get out of here, I'm done' only, absolutely consistent with the rest of the menu tree |
| 09:43:49 | amiconn | Left doesn't change the setting because it already changed before due to the live nature of the settings |
| 09:43:50 | midkay | fine way to put it. |
| 09:44:44 | amiconn | What would be in fact debatable is the function of Off/Stop to revert. This now actually executes 2 functions at once: revert _and_ get out of here |
| 09:45:31 | amiconn | But I think it's more convenient this way (and cancel/revert is imho a rare operation compared to leave it as I set it) |
| 09:46:24 | midkay | that's true.. |
| 09:54:09 | Slasheri | hmm, just found a vorbis files crashing on the target but can't crash it on simulator to get the backtrace.. |
| 09:54:13 | Slasheri | -s |
| 09:57:04 | * | amiconn just had an idea concerning button actions in plugins |
| 09:57:59 | amiconn | Afaiu, the main problem is that plugins may both want to specify their own contexts _and_ reuse standard core contexts... |
| 09:58:04 | Slasheri | I05:DivX0 at 0x32F0AA2E, but there is not near that location in vorbis.map |
| 09:58:51 | amiconn | so we need a way to allow for both. The core uses context IDs, but we cannot use centrally defined IDs for plugins. |
| 09:59:13 | amiconn | So what about reusing the virtual pointer idea currently used for the language IDs? |
| 09:59:45 | amiconn | A button ocntext ID would be a plain ID if it falls into a certain, small address range, otherwise it would be a literal pointer |
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| 10:00:17 | amiconn | So plugins could both use the core contexts by using the IDs, and define their own contexts and use the address |
| 10:01:49 | amiconn | We cannot simply use pointers for all contexts because it would break plugin compatibility with every tiny core change (or we would have to export all core contexts via the plugin api) |
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| 10:20:44 | JdGordon | amiconn: that could work... |
| 10:20:57 | JdGordon | the bigger problem with the plugins is the lack of generic actions like the core has |
| 10:21:27 | JdGordon | I tihnk we could easily add the directions for all targets, but other buttons are problematic |
| 10:21:54 | JdGordon | I thought about going clockwise around each target giving each button a letter, but realised that wouldnt work well |
| 10:24:44 | amiconn | Button actions in plugins surely aren't that helpful for consistency across plugins, for this to work the plugins have too much differing needs |
| 10:25:52 | amiconn | But I think using contexts (even if every single plugin has its own context) might still be helpful: it separates the target specific button handling from the actual actions |
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| 10:27:03 | amiconn | In fact there is only one context that is worth sharing between several plugins imho, and that is the "Move Left/Right/Up/Down, Zoom In/Out" context |
| 10:28:13 | amiconn | Hmm, in fact a bunch of simple plugins won't need own contexts |
| 10:29:34 | JdGordon | one thing I started playing with was having a sepearte action handler in the plugin lib, with the basic directions as a context, then each plugin would add its own contexts and reuse others' if they would work... then instead of using the LAST_LIST__NEXT_LIST() macro, the plugin aciton handler would use an array of contexts passed to it by the plugin.. does that makes sense? |
| 10:29:51 | JdGordon | I tinhk that would make it generic enough to not be too much of a hassle |
| 10:30:02 | JdGordon | and powerfull enough for it to work... |
| 10:31:38 | JdGordon | that might be impossible to keep keymaps from conflicting with eachother tho... maybe not... |
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| 10:33:00 | amiconn | The separate handler might work... |
| 10:33:34 | amiconn | ...but in fact using the virtual pointer idea might not even increase the core action handler code size. |
| 10:34:11 | amiconn | Today there is this custom context bit... which becomes superfluous with virtual pointers |
| 10:34:26 | JdGordon | it would add 1 if() which is nothing... but wouldnt that mean we couldnt group all the keymaps together nicely? |
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| 10:34:49 | amiconn | In case a core action handler needs a custom context, it would just use a plain pointer like a plugin would |
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| 10:36:14 | amiconn | Why wouldn't it allow to group contexts together (apart from that I don't know where you want to group 'em)? |
| 10:37:16 | JdGordon | well, i guess if they were grouped together (i.e in the plugin lib) there might be less work to change over each plugin.. |
| 10:37:21 | JdGordon | and i guess so |
| 10:37:47 | amiconn | Ok, but why would the virtual pointer idea not allow to do this? |
| 10:38:23 | JdGordon | no, i guess it would.. but could you point from one list to another like you can with the contexts now? |
| 10:38:36 | amiconn | Yes of course |
| 10:38:59 | JdGordon | ok then, i guess it could work |
| 10:39:03 | amiconn | This next_list pointer would be such a virtual pointer as well |
| 10:41:39 | JdGordon | ... possible problem... if (button&BUTTON_REMOTE) context |= CONTEXT_REMOTE; is done before checking the context.. this could be moved under, but anyway, with virtual pointers you have to put the remote and main keymaps together.. is that a problem? |
| 10:41:48 | amiconn | In the core, this would even give you the choice whether you link the contexts via their IDs or their address |
| 10:41:48 | JdGordon | remmeber there are 3 different hxxx remotes.. |
| 10:42:13 | amiconn | hmm |
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| 10:42:46 | amiconn | Good question |
| 10:42:51 | amiconn | Need to think about it |
| 10:43:01 | JdGordon | no, i tihnk id rather stay with the context ids, the action stuff in the core already has provisions for a function to return the button list from a pointer |
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| 10:54:07 | JdGordon | hmm.... the bubbles plugin looks like an easy one to convert and choose a best mothod.. except it only uses left/right/shoot and start |
| 10:55:24 | JdGordon | btw, when moving plugins to actions, i tinhk it would be good to get them to use the multi-screen api at the same time |
| 10:55:37 | JdGordon | ... and langv2 :p |
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| 11:07:25 | amiconn | The multi-screen api isn't very usefull for most of the plugins |
| 11:08:10 | amiconn | Most of those which can deal with multiple screens already do so |
| 11:09:08 | amiconn | for some it's not possible, for others it doesn't make sense |
| 11:09:37 | amiconn | Either way, many plugins use graphics, and these graphics need adjustment for every lcd |
| 11:10:11 | amiconn | The multi-screen api is about widgets which auto-adapt to the various resolutions and depths |
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| 11:13:36 | amiconn | Plugins using the grayscale library are a very special case. Even though it would be technically possible to implement a remote grayscale library for the iriver remote, it wouldn't be possible to run both the main and remote grayscale overlay at once (but that would be the situation on H1x0) |
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| 11:15:57 | amiconn | We only have one user timer... :/ |
| 11:17:38 | JdGordon | ok.. |
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| 11:18:50 | JdGordon | so then back to actions.. which way do we want to do? using context ids we dont need any change to the core. |
| 11:19:46 | JdGordon | and where wold the best place to put a generic directions list? plugins/directions |
| 11:19:50 | JdGordon | _keys.c ? |
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| 11:32:46 | Gnelik | Hi!!! |
| 11:35:08 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 12:13:43 | Gnelik | Why calculator on sansa e200 sim has wrong size |
| 12:13:59 | Gnelik | not full width |
| 12:14:05 | desowin | "QT4 app to upload .scrobbler.log or Ipod OF song databases." <- what that 'Ipod OF song databases.' mean ? |
| 12:14:15 | desowin | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog |
| 12:14:16 | JdGordon | Gnelik: probably it hasnt been configured for it yet |
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| 12:14:52 | JdGordon | desowin: i assume it means it can upload your songs listened to in th apple OS as well as ou r .scrobbler.log |
| 12:15:14 | Gnelik | It use |
| 12:15:14 | Gnelik | REC_WIDTH |
| 12:15:27 | Gnelik | Ha |
| 12:15:27 | Gnelik | i found it |
| 12:15:32 | desowin | yeah, I wrote QTScrobbler :P but that description is quite strange for me |
| 12:15:41 | JdGordon | oh, haha |
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| 12:24:04 | JdGordon | hey barrywardell, does BUTTON_SCROLL_UP/DOWN generate _REPEAT events? |
| 12:24:50 | barrywardell | yes, at the moment anyway it just works like BUTTON_UP/DOWN |
| 12:24:58 | JdGordon | ok, great |
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| 12:48:14 | XavierGr | I fully aggree with amiconn on the options buttons. I always accept settings with left! Pushing right to go back is somewhat weird and most of the times I have to reenter the setting menu to apply my change. |
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| 12:49:25 | JdGordon | :'( i wish the people that objected would go to the mailing list where the discussion is happening |
| 12:50:12 | Bagder | I'd say that if people don't object on the list, we can ignore them |
| 12:50:13 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: add me, too on that list :p |
| 12:50:45 | Bagder | the dev list *HAVE* to be a central dev resource |
| 12:50:53 | JdGordon | Bagder: :) |
| 12:50:53 | n1s | That's one of the fun comunication problems around here, some people whing on irc others whining on the ml and some others in the forum |
| 12:51:25 | Genre9mp3 | so isn't IRC for discussion on such things? I don't quite get it |
| 12:51:34 | * | XavierGr goes to the list! |
| 12:51:37 | JdGordon | the ml is 100x better than irc purely because discussion can continue without having to wait till people are online |
| 12:51:49 | Genre9mp3 | wooo... some XavierGr action! |
| 12:51:56 | Bagder | and not all *can* use IRC all the time |
| 12:51:58 | XavierGr | but I think I have already said my preference on the list |
| 12:53:00 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: I agree... the ml is more appropriate for discussing such things... and opinions don't get lost through tons of logs |
| 12:53:47 | JdGordon | Bagder: i dont think you have replied to the thread... whats your opinion on the matter? |
| 12:54:25 | Genre9mp3 | but you cannot just ignore the fact that many people object on IRC (generally speaking) |
| 12:54:32 | Bagder | JdGordon: I don't have time |
| 12:54:37 | Bagder | so I'm neutral |
| 12:54:50 | JdGordon | :) |
| 12:55:56 | JdGordon | oh, is langv2 actually ready for plugins yet? |
| 12:56:12 | Bagder | well, the syntax is there to allow it |
| 12:56:20 | Bagder | but not a lot more |
| 12:56:41 | JdGordon | does anyone actually know what still needs to be done? |
| 12:57:04 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/langv2 |
| 12:57:09 | Bagder | that's the old "plan" |
| 12:57:25 | JdGordon | Jens brought up the topic of actions in plugins and i figured it would be a good time to try getting langv2 going in them also |
| 12:57:26 | XavierGr | yup I just found my reply in the ml :) |
| 12:58:31 | * | JdGordon sees XavierGr's reply, its unfortunalty very outvoted tho :p |
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| 12:58:41 | barrywardell | JdGordon: your settings changes work fine for the H10 |
| 12:58:51 | JdGordon | thanks |
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| 12:59:39 | JdGordon | wb amiconn, ive got a patch for actions in bubbles, and apart from 1 warning i tihnk it works ok |
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| 13:02:32 | daurn|laptop | JdGordon: do you have a CF or SD card? |
| 13:02:49 | JdGordon | i have a few sd's i tihnk |
| 13:02:58 | JdGordon | by I, i mean my dad |
| 13:03:18 | daurn|laptop | could i borrow one for 30mins? - which in reality is 2 days |
| 13:03:18 | barrywardell | JdGordon: are you planning on adding that delay to show confirmation? i just tried it with a HZ/10 delay and it feels a lot better, especially for new users. |
| 13:04:11 | JdGordon | barrywardell: well, i dont know if that patch will even make it in... but if it goes in I will add it |
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| 13:05:18 | JdGordon | daurn|laptop: whatcha need it for? |
| 13:06:00 | daurn|laptop | updating firmware on my neuros OSD |
| 13:06:11 | barrywardell | JdGordon: also, the e200 mapping looks OK. I wouldn't worry about it too much anyway since the e200 doesn't even have a working port yet and most of the button mappings will need to be redone anyway.. |
| 13:06:23 | JdGordon | k |
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| 13:21:54 | Gnelik | barrywardell: i posted normal mapping for e200 in its forum |
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| 13:22:31 | barrywardell | Gnelik: yes, I noticed that. but haven't tried them yet. I will try them now |
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| 13:24:17 | Gnelik | barrywardell:it's like normal e200 firmware do |
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| 13:26:37 | JoeTermini | hey folks, i got a problem with compiling |
| 13:26:52 | JoeTermini | when i try to use the make command, i get "clock skew" errors |
| 13:27:00 | JoeTermini | and "your build may be incomplete |
| 13:27:07 | JoeTermini | i have a 5g ipod |
| 13:27:14 | JoeTermini | ive tried making clean |
| 13:27:34 | JoeTermini | and reconfiguring |
| 13:27:39 | JoeTermini | and rebuilding it |
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| 13:27:47 | JoeTermini | im using cygwin |
| 13:27:48 | rasher | I've seen "make -v" been mentioned, but I don't know what it does |
| 13:27:58 | rasher | huh |
| 13:28:01 | rasher | that'd just version :D |
| 13:28:03 | JoeTermini | it tells me the version of cygwin |
| 13:28:18 | JoeTermini | 3.81 |
| 13:28:28 | JoeTermini | its |
| 13:28:33 | JoeTermini | *its built for i686-pc-cygwin |
| 13:28:39 | JoeTermini | thats what it says |
| 13:28:51 | rasher | I wonder if Bagder is around |
| 13:30:53 | JoeTermini | im trying to build it again... |
| 13:31:05 | JoeTermini | so far so good |
| 13:31:11 | JoeTermini | aw crap |
| 13:31:46 | JoeTermini | "make[2]: Warning: File `/cygdrive/c/cygwin/home/terminikids/... has modification time 1.2 s in the future |
| 13:31:51 | JoeTermini | 1.2 seconds |
| 13:31:52 | JoeTermini | comeon |
| 13:32:11 | JoeTermini | would an alternative to cygwin work? |
| 13:33:30 | obo | you could try the vmware image |
| 13:33:54 | rasher | Haha, are they only warnings though? Or does the build break? |
| 13:34:22 | JoeTermini | what |
| 13:34:25 | JoeTermini | break? |
| 13:34:42 | rasher | Does the build not complete? |
| 13:34:47 | JoeTermini | it tells me clock skews, build may be incomplete, |
| 13:34:49 | JoeTermini | so yes |
| 13:35:10 | rasher | I don't know, there have been a couple of mentions of this |
| 13:35:23 | rasher | if you wait around for a bit, I'm pretty sure someone will be able to help you |
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| 13:36:41 | JoeTermini | aight |
| 13:36:44 | rasher | JoeTermini: is your clock in fact set correctly? |
| 13:36:54 | cA1mAn | hello, is mp3 albumart display (.jpg and embedded in mp3 tag) supported in rockbox for iPod 5G? |
| 13:36:55 | JoeTermini | my system clock? |
| 13:36:58 | JoeTermini | yeah |
| 13:37:17 | JoeTermini | (that yeah was to both questions) |
| 13:37:30 | rasher | cA1mAn: Not in the official Rockbox, but there's a patch to add albumart display in the tracker |
| 13:37:59 | JoeTermini | get a custom build |
| 13:38:20 | JoeTermini | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6934.90 |
| 13:38:34 | cA1mAn | rasher: also jpg and embedded? |
| 13:38:40 | JoeTermini | oh wait |
| 13:38:43 | JoeTermini | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6934.0 |
| 13:38:49 | JoeTermini | there you go |
| 13:38:59 | rasher | cA1mAn: no. Just bmp |
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| 13:39:17 | cA1mAn | rasher: :-( pretty useless for me |
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| 13:39:44 | rasher | Can't you just convert to bmp and/or extract the embedded album art? |
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| 13:42:17 | cA1mAn | rasher: well it's possible, but i think it's not too hard to make the patch for jpg, so i will bravely wait :-) |
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| 13:43:02 | JdGordon | ping amiconn? |
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| 13:47:22 | barrywardell | Gnelik: your keymap looks quite good |
| 13:47:31 | barrywardell | a couple of changes i would make though: |
| 13:48:12 | barrywardell | AB should use power+left/right imho |
| 13:48:19 | Gnelik | barrywardell:Thanks |
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| 13:48:58 | amiconn | JdGordon: ...pong |
| 13:49:17 | JdGordon | you wanna have a look at this bubbles patch? |
| 13:50:03 | amiconn | Busy with other stuff atm |
| 13:50:10 | amiconn | target tree mainly |
| 13:50:12 | barrywardell | Gnelik: I also think play should bring you to the WPS |
| 13:50:22 | barrywardell | and long play should stop playback |
| 13:50:54 | JdGordon | amiconn: ok, fs#6320 when you do have time |
| 13:51:00 | JdGordon | are you moving all of sh across? |
| 13:51:15 | Gnelik | What to do with PG_UP and PG_DOWN |
| 13:51:16 | amiconn | It's impossible to move everything at once |
| 13:51:25 | Gnelik | barrywardell |
| 13:51:28 | amiconn | Atm I am working on moving the 1 bit bitmap lcd code |
| 13:51:32 | JdGordon | not impossible.. just painful :p |
| 13:52:02 | amiconn | That one is shared between archos and ifp |
| 13:53:03 | barrywardell | Gnelik: they're necessary, but more of a convenience. i suggest rec+scroll up/down. what do you thing? |
| 13:53:25 | barrywardell | think* |
| 13:53:46 | amiconn | JdGordon: I prefer doing this by module rather than by target |
| 13:54:00 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:54:11 | Gnelik | Good idea |
| 13:54:22 | amiconn | The ata transfer routines are another area... |
| 13:55:31 | Gnelik | barrywardell Keyboard map needs changes to |
| 13:55:59 | Gnelik | ACTION_KBD_DONE - BUTTON_UP |
| 13:56:11 | Gnelik | ACTION_KBD_SELECT - BUTTON_SELECT |
| 13:59:03 | barrywardell | ok, i'll change that here |
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| 14:02:31 | barrywardell | Gnelik: i think power should be used to exit pitch and quick screens |
| 14:05:48 | barrywardell | and power should exit the keyboard too |
| 14:06:24 | Gnelik | barrywardell: yes |
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| 14:07:24 | Gnelik | left defination ACTION_NONE, BUTTON_LEFT|BUTTON_REL |
| 14:07:31 | Gnelik | in quick screen |
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| 14:18:44 | barrywardell | Gnelik: what do you think about the bookmark screen? i was thinking rec for delete since it shouldn't be too easy to do by accident. also, power to exit to be consistent with the other screens? |
| 14:19:20 | rasher | See this is how things should've been done for the h1x0 as well. Instead, we |
| 14:19:25 | rasher | 're now left with this mess |
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| 14:19:46 | Gnelik | barrywardell: it would be great |
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| 14:34:35 | My_Sic | Stop the screen screen on ipod could significantly increase the duration of the battery? |
| 14:35:18 | amiconn | no |
| 14:35:29 | amiconn | A little bit perhaps, but not significantly |
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| 14:37:35 | barrywardell | Gnelik: do you think RIGHT should be ACTION_STD_OK as well as/instead of SELECT? |
| 14:37:42 | My_Sic | ok |
| 14:38:06 | barrywardell | it's hard to tell in the sim |
| 14:38:52 | Gnelik | its hard to push it sometimes |
| 14:39:03 | barrywardell | true |
| 14:39:17 | barrywardell | so not instead of. how about as well as? |
| 14:39:17 | Gnelik | and i dont think somebodey will use it |
| 14:39:37 | barrywardell | i'll leave it alone until we can test it on a real sansa |
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| 14:43:59 | Gnelik | barrywardell: how do the work with ata drv going?? |
| 14:44:15 | barrywardell | i made some progress last night |
| 14:44:36 | barrywardell | solved the problem we were having reading the csd/cid |
| 14:44:52 | barrywardell | now we can properly detect the size of the flash on the sansa |
| 14:45:10 | barrywardell | but bank switching still doesn't work yet |
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| 14:49:58 | Gnelik | Did you rtry to run Rockbox |
| 14:50:04 | Gnelik | with 4 gb |
| 14:50:11 | Gnelik | without swiching |
| 14:50:12 | joetermini | any ideas |
| 14:50:12 | joetermini | when i try the "make" command when im compiling, i get "clock skew detected" and "build incomplete" |
| 14:50:18 | Gnelik | barrywardell: |
| 14:50:21 | joetermini | i have a 5g ipod |
| 14:50:31 | joetermini | ive tried make clean |
| 14:50:40 | joetermini | not much is working |
| 14:50:42 | barrywardell | Gnelik: i only have an 8gb |
| 14:50:53 | barrywardell | haven't tried running Rockbox yet |
| 14:51:08 | barrywardell | it doesn't even compile properly yet |
| 14:52:25 | joetermini | ... |
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| 14:52:53 | joetermini | any ideas for the clock skew? |
| 14:53:34 | obo | joetermini: from your forum post, it seems to be just warnings - have you tried doing a "make install" afterwards and running the sim? |
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| 14:54:16 | obo | joeTermini: from your forum post, it seems to be just warnings - have you tried doing a "make install" afterwards and running the sim? |
| 14:54:52 | JoeTermini | ive tried making a sim and the build |
| 14:54:58 | JoeTermini | i get clock skew on both |
| 14:55:08 | linuxstb | JoeTermini: Are you using a FAT32 partition? |
| 14:55:11 | JoeTermini | yes |
| 14:55:21 | rasher | JoeTermini: have you tried to go ahead and attempt to run the sim? |
| 14:55:26 | linuxstb | Do you have an NTFS partition you can use? I recall someone saying it's a FAT issue. |
| 14:55:34 | JoeTermini | i cant make the sim |
| 14:55:35 | JoeTermini | um |
| 14:55:35 | rasher | The clock skew is just a warning, it might still work |
| 14:55:39 | JoeTermini | i dont have an ntfs |
| 14:55:50 | JoeTermini | but it also says build incomplete |
| 14:55:52 | linuxstb | Something to do with FAT only having a 2 or 3 second filetime accuracy. |
| 14:56:00 | obo | no, it says it *might* be incomplete |
| 14:56:29 | JoeTermini | oh yeah |
| 14:56:39 | JoeTermini | ill try running the sim |
| 14:58:01 | JoeTermini | just ran the make command... |
| 14:58:21 | JoeTermini | lots of .5 seconds in the future |
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| 14:58:51 | obo | okay, ignore those... run make install afterwards, then try running rockboxui |
| 14:59:48 | JoeTermini | k |
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| 15:05:12 | JoeTermini | OK: so i ran the sim, and now the sim shows a blank box with the top bar of rockbox |
| 15:05:20 | rasher | That's the sim |
| 15:05:21 | JoeTermini | (which has the volume, battery exc |
| 15:05:33 | JoeTermini | ya |
| 15:05:40 | rasher | you may run it with −−background to get an image of the player with buttons named |
| 15:05:40 | JoeTermini | it ran, but nothings there |
| 15:05:50 | rasher | What did you expect to be there? |
| 15:06:02 | JoeTermini | i thought it would have all the options |
| 15:06:08 | JoeTermini | ive never gotten the sim to work |
| 15:06:10 | rasher | IT does, if you enter the menu |
| 15:06:18 | rasher | It behaves like Rockbox does |
| 15:06:27 | JoeTermini | i got that |
| 15:06:27 | rasher | This is the screen you see the first time you start Rockbox |
| 15:06:40 | rasher | now try rockboxui −−background |
| 15:06:44 | rasher | should be slightly helpful |
| 15:07:16 | JoeTermini | aaaahhhh |
| 15:08:06 | JoeTermini | so when i get the same sort of errors when i make the actual build, i can ignore them |
| 15:08:19 | rasher | More than likely |
| 15:11:59 | JoeTermini | im compiling a test build now |
| 15:12:06 | JoeTermini | how do i get the sim to run that build |
| 15:12:10 | JoeTermini | does it automatically do it |
| 15:12:18 | JoeTermini | uh oh |
| 15:13:37 | rasher | The sim doesn't run a build. |
| 15:13:49 | rasher | The sim is a build itself |
| 15:13:56 | JoeTermini | oh |
| 15:14:05 | JoeTermini | so when i patch it, i make sim |
| 15:14:13 | Gnelik | barrywardell: When you start simulator is RB logo inverted??? |
| 15:14:14 | rasher | yeah |
| 15:15:06 | barrywardell | yes |
| 15:15:07 | JoeTermini | alright, guys, thanks a ton |
| 15:15:20 | JoeTermini | though ill probably be back cuz something will go wrong |
| 15:15:29 | barrywardell | should be easy to fix though |
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| 15:17:36 | JoeTermini | oh, another question |
| 15:18:01 | JoeTermini | when i implement a patch, and i get failed hunks, im supposed to change the files manually right? |
| 15:18:10 | JoeTermini | how do i know what to put where |
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| 15:19:13 | JoeTermini | and when i get a patch off the tracker, sometimes it will include a .c or a .h file |
| 15:19:18 | JoeTermini | where do i put those |
| 15:19:23 | JoeTermini | i know .c is a rock |
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| 15:24:42 | JoeTermini | when i get failed hunks when patching, how do i know where to manually patch |
| 15:24:44 | JoeTermini | like, what line |
| 15:24:45 | Gnelik | barrywardell: will you commint new keymap to cvs, if not give me a new version plz/ |
| 15:25:12 | barrywardell | yes, i will commit it. just one more problem to fix first |
| 15:25:34 | barrywardell | the listtree_scroll stuff |
| 15:25:46 | Gnelik | What is it? |
| 15:26:57 | barrywardell | there are two possibilities depending on a setting |
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| 15:27:32 | barrywardell | holding left can either bring you back to the root directory or scroll text that is too long for the screen |
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| 15:28:12 | barrywardell | you can either have it set to scroll the text with a hold of left/right or with left/right+another button |
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| 15:40:21 | amiconn | Bagder: Is there any time frame for switching to svn? |
| 15:40:47 | amiconn | I would like to move more stuff to target tree, things which are already separated |
| 15:41:17 | amiconn | But by doing this now we would lose the history... |
| 15:41:31 | amiconn | I mean things like lcd-ipodvideo.c |
| 15:45:00 | barrywardell | Gnelik: i gotta go now. here's the latest keymap i have: http://pastebin.ca/246671 |
| 15:45:42 | barrywardell | the problems with listtree_scroll and also backspace on the keyboard need to be fixed, then i will commit it |
| 15:47:20 | Gnelik | Bakspace is down maybe? |
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| 15:47:50 | Gnelik | barrywardell |
| 15:54:54 | barrywardell | yes, sounds reasonable |
| 15:54:57 | barrywardell | gotta go |
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| 17:12:27 | tkdydwk | I want to know if somebody with a "virgin" iAUDIO X5 made a HD image and maybe, just maybe found a deleted file "TEST.BIN" somewhere;) |
| 17:12:56 | tkdydwk | the original firmware seems to search this, maybe even for execution, so I'm very curious. |
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| 17:31:56 | michaelconner | hello... I ran battery_bench on my mini 2g ipod overnight −− has anyone noticed battery_bench not being necessarily accurate? i got about 15 hours of actual playback, whereas the battery_bench.txt stopped recording at 10h39s. |
| 17:33:08 | obo | how many tracks did you set it to loop through? |
| 17:33:42 | michaelconner | about 20. 2 albums' worth of −−preset standard MP3 (lame 3.92, I believe) |
| 17:35:26 | obo | so more than 32 mb then... |
| 17:35:36 | michaelconner | yeah, definitely |
| 17:36:37 | michaelconner | the last entry said that it had 6% left |
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| 17:45:43 | blue_lizard | hello all |
| 17:45:52 | blue_lizard | how do i avoid such things? |
| 17:45:54 | blue_lizard | * Home |
| 17:45:54 | blue_lizard | * News |
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| 17:45:54 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK blue_lizard |
| 17:45:54 | blue_lizard | o Premium-Zone betreten |
| 17:45:54 | blue_lizard | o PREMIUM-Passwort vergessen? |
| 17:45:55 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 17:45:55 | blue_lizard | o PREMIUM-Benutzer werden |
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| 17:46:43 | blue_lizard | damed |
| 17:46:45 | blue_lizard | really sorry |
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| 17:48:34 | blue_lizard | implicit declaration of function `gui_bitmap_scrollbar_draw' |
| 17:48:39 | blue_lizard | how do i avoid that? |
| 17:53:38 | linuxstb | You need to #include the .h file that defines that function. |
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| 17:54:25 | blue_lizard | that make things even vorser because its is only an warning |
| 17:54:34 | blue_lizard | but if i include the h file i get |
| 17:54:37 | blue_lizard | gui/scrollbar.h:27: error: redeclaration of enumerator `VERTICAL' |
| 17:55:23 | blue_lizard | in the file i work on there is even no "VERTICAL" |
| 17:55:52 | blue_lizard | it also complaina about redeclaration of enumerator `HORIZONTAL' |
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| 17:56:05 | blue_lizard | i use HORIZONTAL but i dont redeclare it |
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| 18:01:20 | linuxstb | gcc doesn't lie - somehow VERTICAL is being declared twice... Do you also include widgets.h ? |
| 18:02:11 | linuxstb | Or does gcc tell you where the previous definition was? |
| 18:05:06 | blue_lizard | > grep -R VERTICAL * | grep "\.h" |
| 18:05:07 | blue_lizard | gui/scrollbar.h: VERTICAL = 0x0000, /* Vertical orientation */ |
| 18:05:07 | blue_lizard | gui/scrollbar.h: * - orientation : either VERTICAL or HORIZONTAL |
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| 18:05:07 | blue_lizard | plugins/doom/r_defs.h: ST_VERTICAL, |
| 18:05:07 | blue_lizard | recorder/widgets.h: VERTICAL = 0, |
| 18:06:30 | blue_lizard | i am not including widget.h but it seem some other file includes it |
| 18:08:23 | blue_lizard | i include plugin.h which includes widget.h |
| 18:08:30 | blue_lizard | what a mess |
| 18:08:35 | linuxstb | Are you writing a plugin? |
| 18:09:05 | blue_lizard | no i am working on onplay.c which is part of the core |
| 18:09:18 | blue_lizard | and i was not the guy inserting that include |
| 18:09:43 | linuxstb | Ah, OK. onplay.c launches plugins, so I guess that's why plugin.h is included. |
| 18:10:28 | blue_lizard | error: `PLUGIN_USB_CONNECTED' undeclared <- seems so i i comment it out |
| 18:12:12 | linuxstb | Seems that the scrollbar function in recorder/widgets.c is only used in one place - the audio thread debug screen... |
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| 18:14:54 | linuxstb | Ah no, it's also exported in the plugin API and used in a few plugins. |
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| 18:19:22 | blue_lizard | would it be possible to use the same declaration for both purposes? |
| 18:19:40 | blue_lizard | at least vertical is declared to 0 on both places |
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| 18:56:08 | amiconn | blue_lizard, linuxstb: Maybe that there are two scrollbar implementations now? If so, one should go, as it would be a waste of space... |
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| 19:04:52 | blue_lizard | amiconn: i don't think so, i belive thah HORIZONTAL and VERTICAL are defined at two places for two purposes |
| 19:05:32 | blue_lizard | if they would share the same values an single definition should be enough |
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| 19:40:44 | voyeur | wich kernel is rockbox based on ? close to GNU/Linux ? |
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| 19:41:10 | rasher | voyeur: it's not based on anything, it's written from scratch |
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| 19:41:20 | voyeur | k |
| 19:41:25 | ze | FAQ hit |
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| 20:09:20 | ender` | haha |
| 20:10:59 | k0oba | hello all, i need the help of someone after reading the manual i am not sure how to format my old archos jukebox 6000 with rockbox firmware iinstalled anyone would have 2 minutes to help me to do it without doin any mistakes? thx for teaching a noob :) |
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| 20:12:06 | WalterEgo | Why do you need formatting? |
| 20:12:20 | k0oba | because i wanna clean verything |
| 20:12:25 | k0oba | i wanna make it empty |
| 20:12:45 | k0oba | i thought it could be good for it |
| 20:12:48 | k0oba | to format |
| 20:13:17 | k0oba | after so much time of upload delete... |
| 20:13:22 | WalterEgo | I don't know much about the archos, can't help much.. Does the manual suggests you do? |
| 20:14:15 | k0oba | delete the archos.mod file. // delete the .rockbox folder |
| 20:14:15 | k0oba | and its contents. Turn the Archos off. |
| 20:14:15 | k0oba | Turn the player back on and the original Archos software will load. |
| 20:14:46 | k0oba | am afraid to do this :/ |
| 20:14:50 | k0oba | lol |
| 20:15:10 | k0oba | need a confirmation u see |
| 20:15:14 | k0oba | ;) |
| 20:15:18 | WalterEgo | I'd rather go with the instruction and delete only the .rockbox folder.. |
| 20:15:26 | _Veseliq_ | http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ |
| 20:15:50 | WalterEgo | Formatting will remove anything from the disk, even original system files from Archos... |
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| 20:16:36 | k0oba | yeah |
| 20:16:43 | k0oba | that what i thought too walt |
| 20:18:00 | k0oba | but rockbox manual says this |
| 20:18:02 | WalterEgo | Since I don't know the target, I can't tell if its gonna boot AT ALL after a disk format.. Better you go and post on the forums.. Needs some patience waiting for an answer but at least, you'll have a REAL answer.. |
| 20:18:03 | k0oba | mmm |
| 20:18:15 | WalterEgo | The part you quoted says DELETE not FORMAT. |
| 20:18:24 | WalterEgo | You can't format a directory/folder. |
| 20:18:47 | k0oba | yeah u right man |
| 20:19:53 | k0oba | well am gonna try to look deeper in the web |
| 20:19:56 | k0oba | to check |
| 20:20:08 | k0oba | thx for answers m8 |
| 20:21:31 | WalterEgo | good luck |
| 20:21:37 | k0oba | :) |
| 20:21:54 | k0oba | need a reboot |
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| 20:34:51 | barrywardell | dan_a: have you tried my improved nand driver? |
| 20:35:11 | barrywardell | it finally reads type 2 responses properly |
| 20:35:17 | dan_a | barrywardell: Not yet - I've only just got in! I'm having a look at the differences now. |
| 20:36:13 | barrywardell | we basically have to read 9 16-bit words of response and ignore the first and last 8-bits |
| 20:37:04 | dan_a | I wonder how the OF gets away with only reading 8 words, then. Still, if it works for us, then that's a good thing :D |
| 20:38:23 | dan_a | I think you've used a bit more space than you need to in the tSDCardInfo structure |
| 20:39:41 | barrywardell | the last half word is a checksum, which the OF probably just ignores |
| 20:40:34 | barrywardell | oops, yes. that should be 4, rather than 9 |
| 20:40:44 | dan_a | I've ignored the checksums so far, but I think I should probably calculate them and retry if the values don't match |
| 20:40:48 | barrywardell | i mean 4 rather than 8 |
| 20:42:03 | dan_a | I'm just testing it now... |
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| 20:43:34 | dan_a | I get a capacity of just over 2,000,000,000 bytes. Looks good to me :D |
| 20:44:52 | DarkDaemon | hiya |
| 20:45:18 | barrywardell | dan_a: it should be the same as the output of dmesg |
| 20:45:26 | DarkDaemon | is there a page that compares rockbox to ipod linux? |
| 20:46:22 | dan_a | DarkDaemon: I don't think so. iPod Linux puts Linux on your iPod, Rockbox attempts to be the best audio player firmware that there is. We have different goals. |
| 20:46:38 | DarkDaemon | ah ic |
| 20:46:43 | rasher | I think there's a short comparison on the IpodLinux page |
| 20:47:11 | DarkDaemon | so i'm getting a new ipod video 80bg black |
| 20:47:26 | DarkDaemon | whould i use rockbox or wait for ipod linux to support it? |
| 20:47:30 | DarkDaemon | should* |
| 20:47:41 | n1s | rockbox doesn't support it yet |
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| 20:48:23 | DarkDaemon | ic |
| 20:48:40 | DarkDaemon | hypotheically: lets say both ipl and rockbox supported it |
| 20:48:45 | DarkDaemon | whiich one should i use? |
| 20:48:58 | * | n1s looks at the channel name ;-) |
| 20:49:01 | rasher | Whichever suits you |
| 20:49:12 | rasher | or both |
| 20:49:21 | DarkDaemon | 0o0o0 both? |
| 20:49:55 | DarkDaemon | so if i am in a gaming mood i use ipl and if i am in a music mood i can use rock box? |
| 20:50:08 | rasher | Yes |
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| 20:50:20 | DarkDaemon | ic |
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| 20:50:51 | DarkDaemon | so whats different about the 80gb video? |
| 20:50:55 | DarkDaemon | tht it cant be supported? |
| 20:52:44 | rasher | the harddisk is strange |
| 20:53:34 | DarkDaemon | anything i can do to help? |
| 20:53:41 | DarkDaemon | i know a few programming languages |
| 20:53:45 | rasher | no idea, to be honest |
| 20:54:28 | DarkDaemon | aight kool |
| 20:54:33 | DarkDaemon | thanx alot for the help |
| 20:54:47 | DarkDaemon | i think i will wait till ipl and rockbox support the new iods |
| 20:54:49 | DarkDaemon | ipods |
| 20:54:51 | DarkDaemon | then i will buy one |
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| 20:56:15 | dan_a | barrywardell: It matches up with the dmesg output. |
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| 20:56:48 | barrywardell | great, now i just need to figure out why it crashes when initializing the bank switching |
| 20:58:50 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 20:58:53 | dan_a | I'd look at the line "while((STATUS_REG & FIFO_FULL) == 0) {}" |
| 20:59:37 | dan_a | We're a bit unsure on when the FIFO_FULL bit gets set, so maybe replacing that with udelay(100) will help |
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| 20:59:59 | barrywardell | i'll try it, thanks |
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| 21:01:40 | DarkDaemon | lol back |
| 21:01:50 | DarkDaemon | forgot to ask u guys one thing |
| 21:02:17 | DarkDaemon | whts it called when u use a sponge thing to scratch stuff on to the back of ur ipod |
| 21:02:39 | DarkDaemon | i was looking at it a month or so ago and now i forgot the name |
| 21:03:33 | goffa | you mean like a marker? |
| 21:03:39 | DarkDaemon | no |
| 21:03:42 | WalterEgo | uh?? scratch *what* off the back of the ipod? |
| 21:03:42 | DarkDaemon | something brushed |
| 21:03:49 | goffa | you mean like etch? |
| 21:04:08 | * | amiconn now has a backdrop on his h140 :) |
| 21:04:10 | Paul_the_Nerd | The brushed steel look? |
| 21:04:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | amiconn: Uhwha? |
| 21:04:21 | DarkDaemon | something like this |
| 21:04:22 | DarkDaemon | : |
| 21:04:23 | DarkDaemon | http://members.optusnet.com.au/brushedipod/mm/stationery/VertPic/ipod13s.jpg |
| 21:04:33 | DarkDaemon | the pic i saw, the guy had a flame look going |
| 21:04:35 | n1s | grayscale eyecanyeh! |
| 21:04:43 | n1s | candeh dammit! |
| 21:04:45 | goffa | ah.. paul was right |
| 21:04:54 | WalterEgo | Darkdeamon - That's what Paul meant with brushed steel.. |
| 21:05:07 | DarkDaemon | so its called brushed steel? |
| 21:05:14 | * | DarkDaemon is such a nub |
| 21:05:14 | DarkDaemon | XD |
| 21:05:16 | goffa | unless you mean like the ipod, apple logo, and 20gb... that's etching |
| 21:05:21 | goffa | but the rest is brushed steel |
| 21:05:30 | WalterEgo | That's the name of the 'style', yes. |
| 21:05:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | amiconn: So what, using grayscale lib, or just using the lighter shade of gray primarily? |
| 21:05:51 | DarkDaemon | oh ok |
| 21:05:55 | DarkDaemon | kool |
| 21:05:55 | DarkDaemon | ty |
| 21:06:05 | DarkDaemon | http://www.ipodwizard.net/wiki/images/thumb/1/13/Brushed-flames.jpg/200px-Brushed-flames.jpg |
| 21:06:06 | amiconn | Paul_the_Nerd: The latter. |
| 21:06:07 | DarkDaemon | OH SNAP |
| 21:06:08 | DarkDaemon | i found it |
| 21:06:12 | k0oba | io WalterEgo am tring something ... i hope it will work |
| 21:06:14 | amiconn | The grayscale lib is a no-no in the core |
| 21:06:16 | k0oba | ;) |
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| 21:08:16 | * | Paul_the_Nerd tries to think how he'd use backdrops on grayscale. |
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| 21:09:04 | DarkDaemon | so is doing something like this safe |
| 21:09:05 | DarkDaemon | ? |
| 21:09:05 | DarkDaemon | http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/45/0000009945/82/img2b7314959qonc9.jpeg |
| 21:09:21 | rasher | Depends what you mean by safe |
| 21:09:30 | DarkDaemon | does it void warrenty? |
| 21:09:48 | rasher | Good question, really |
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| 21:10:11 | DarkDaemon | rofl |
| 21:10:12 | rasher | I'm sure they'd like to say that you've modified your ipod, but frankly, it's just a lot of scratches |
| 21:10:15 | rasher | I don't know |
| 21:10:27 | DarkDaemon | it looks so cool |
| 21:11:28 | senab | has anyone got any idea why this is happening when i try and compile? "make: *** [all] Error 2" |
| 21:11:45 | rasher | You need to supply some more output (leading up to that error) |
| 21:12:02 | senab | i'm just uploading a terminal log now |
| 21:12:08 | barrywardell | what's the best way to deal with an integer larger that 32-bit? |
| 21:13:15 | linuxstb | Just define it as int64_t or uint64_t |
| 21:14:06 | senab | log: senab.co.uk/log.txt">http://www.senab.co.uk/log.txt |
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| 21:14:17 | * | k0oba seomeone know what to do with a |
| 21:14:20 | senab | it was working the other day... |
| 21:14:21 | * | k0oba .ajz file |
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| 21:14:46 | n1s | k0oba: put it on jour archos? |
| 21:14:50 | n1s | your |
| 21:15:18 | rasher | senab: try make veryclean |
| 21:15:24 | linuxstb | senab: Try doing a "make clean" in the tools/ directory. Also, make sure you've done a "cvs update" in there - some new files were added. |
| 21:15:40 | k0oba | i format my archos now and site archos sas to copy and paste firmaware .aos and what i download from site is a .ajz |
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| 21:15:54 | k0oba | wtf |
| 21:17:12 | senab | nope, still not compiling |
| 21:17:25 | k0oba | Copy and paste the downloaded firmware (.AOS file) to your ARCHOS device. and the downloaded firmware is ajb6000_v5.07a.ajz ... what can i do ? n1s u know ? |
| 21:17:47 | rasher | senab: and you have run cvs update for your source dir? |
| 21:17:58 | n1s | k0oba: afaik it is supposed to be .ajz but why put of back on? |
| 21:18:04 | goffa | should be fine |
| 21:18:13 | senab | i do a cvs update everytime i compile |
| 21:18:14 | goffa | http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=AJZ |
| 21:18:15 | linuxstb | senab: Try "make V=1" - that may give you more output. |
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| 21:18:48 | barrywardell | linuxstb: thanks. is there any way for snprintf to work with ints bigger than 32-bit? |
| 21:19:04 | senab | it's stopping on this: make -C /home/chris/rockbox/firmware OBJDIR=/home/chris/rockbox/build5g/firmware |
| 21:19:10 | linuxstb | barrywardell: The Rockbox implementation probably doesn't support 64-bit ints... |
| 21:19:29 | k0oba | n1s if i have formatted the archos disk there is no more firmware inside right ? |
| 21:19:46 | rasher | senab: cvs update -d |
| 21:20:20 | n1s | k0oba: the archos firmware is in flash and not on the disk, you should be fine after a format, just copy rockbox to the disk :-) |
| 21:20:22 | senab | hmmm, i was using cvs up -dP to update anyway |
| 21:20:31 | k0oba | oki |
| 21:20:40 | rasher | Don't know |
| 21:20:56 | linuxstb | senab: Is it just the 5g build that's not working? Have you tried others? |
| 21:21:17 | senab | dunno, i'll try some others now |
| 21:21:37 | rasher | Did you try to make veryclean? |
| 21:21:46 | k0oba | n1s u think i can copy all the lil files i did backup before formatting included the .rockbox folder and the archos.mod and others ? |
| 21:21:58 | senab | rasher: yes i tried a veryclean |
| 21:22:14 | senab | it's just the 5g |
| 21:22:16 | * | k0oba sorry to bother with my shitty player |
| 21:22:27 | rasher | senab: Do you have any patches? |
| 21:22:33 | rasher | .. applied |
| 21:22:45 | n1s | k0oba: If i understand you cotrrectly: yes ;-) |
| 21:22:53 | senab | yes, but its not even getting to the patched files yet |
| 21:23:09 | senab | it's compiling a ipod mini now |
| 21:23:18 | rasher | Try with a fresh checkout anyway.. |
| 21:23:26 | senab | thats what i'm going to do |
| 21:24:12 | n1s | the forum seems really shakey... |
| 21:24:29 | senab | shakey? |
| 21:24:43 | n1s | goes down almost every day... |
| 21:24:54 | DarkDaemon | hey if i brush my ipod into a flame design |
| 21:24:57 | n1s | or is it just me? |
| 21:25:01 | DarkDaemon | can u change it to another design later? |
| 21:25:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | DarkDaemon: This channel is mostly about the Rockbox firmware... not so much about iPods, or external mods |
| 21:25:35 | DarkDaemon | ok |
| 21:25:36 | DarkDaemon | srry |
| 21:25:38 | DarkDaemon | i will stop |
| 21:25:43 | WalterEgo | DarkDaemon - Well, probly not unless you buy some sort of laque and repaint it. |
| 21:25:54 | WalterEgo | (and it might be risky business) |
| 21:26:19 | DarkDaemon | ic |
| 21:26:22 | DarkDaemon | thanx alot |
| 21:26:25 | DarkDaemon | for all ur help |
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| 21:28:18 | senab | is it me or is the rockbox server a bit slow tonight? |
| 21:29:52 | k0oba | n1s works perfectly before archos empty i had 3,5 Go Free now after format i got : 5,58 Free space thx m8 for ur assistance ;) |
| 21:30:01 | * | k0oba happy |
| 21:30:04 | n1s | np |
| 21:30:07 | Paul_the_Nerd | senab: Rockbox, or forums.rockbox? |
| 21:30:21 | senab | the cvs server |
| 21:30:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | Ah |
| 21:30:45 | senab | its took me 5 mins for a fresh checkout so far, and it still hasn't finished yet |
| 21:30:54 | senab | oh well lol |
| 21:30:59 | linuxstb | Are you using "-z3" ? |
| 21:31:07 | senab | yep |
| 21:31:28 | senab | am i doing something wrong then? |
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| 21:32:24 | k0oba | c u next year thanks rockbox developperz |
| 21:32:26 | k0oba | :) |
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| 21:34:43 | senab | we're done.... finally lol |
| 21:35:44 | linuxstb | senab: No, -z3 is fine. www.rockbox.org and cvs.rockbox.org are on the same server, with a 2Mbit/s connection, so it does get slow occasionally. |
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| 21:37:04 | senab | 2mbit? that is a bit slow, are the forums hosted on that too? |
| 21:37:29 | rasher | Nope |
| 21:37:40 | rasher | forums.rockbox.org is a different server on a different line in a different location |
| 21:37:44 | rasher | very different, in short |
| 21:38:09 | rasher | The 2mbit line copes surprisingly well most of the time |
| 21:38:25 | senab | i was gonna say, 2mbits for a www, forums and cvs server = oh dear |
| 21:38:36 | senab | and ftp i'm guessing |
| 21:38:47 | rasher | Ftp? |
| 21:38:49 | mattvt | hey anyone know anything about installing rockbox on the h10? |
| 21:38:55 | mattvt | i can't get mine to start in ums mode |
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| 21:39:16 | rasher | There's also download.rockbox.org, which is on a fat pipe |
| 21:39:19 | senab | scrap ftp, i was talking crap |
| 21:39:48 | senab | is anyone any good at bash shell scripts? |
| 21:40:07 | rasher | Decent, what's your problem? |
| 21:40:10 | WalterEgo | matt- What steaps have you taken? |
| 21:40:20 | WalterEgo | steps. |
| 21:40:32 | mattvt | just followed the manual |
| 21:40:43 | senab | basically i want to take a patch rockbox using all the patches in a directory |
| 21:40:44 | linuxstb | senab: As rasher said, it works fine most of the time. |
| 21:41:00 | mattvt | hit the reset button, connect the usb, hold the next button and turn it on, still holding the next button until it boots to the usb connected screen |
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| 21:41:14 | senab | i wrote a shell script for cygwin months ago but kinda deleted accidentally |
| 21:41:19 | mattvt | but it still boots in mtp mode |
| 21:42:12 | WalterEgo | Forget about 'next' button.. |
| 21:42:20 | WalterEgo | It should be the -O- button |
| 21:42:34 | WalterEgo | Next as in menu navigation, not next as in FastForward |
| 21:42:54 | WalterEgo | You also.. The one just right of the scrollpad. |
| 21:43:02 | mattvt | ah ah |
| 21:43:03 | mattvt | ok |
| 21:43:24 | WalterEgo | try and ask again if it doesn't work :) |
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| 21:43:37 | mattvt | nope, that worked |
| 21:43:38 | mattvt | thanks |
| 21:43:44 | WalterEgo | :) Np |
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| 21:48:14 | barrywardell | i wonder if the naming of prev and next should be changed in the H10 manual. it can be quite confusing |
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| 21:48:46 | WalterEgo | Left and Right maybe? |
| 21:49:32 | mattvt | i would have called the buttons on the front back and enter |
| 21:49:39 | mattvt | and the ones on the side prev and next |
| 21:49:46 | WalterEgo | How are they name in the original fw's manual? |
| 21:49:52 | grrraham | Hi. If anyone out there's got a mo, trying to get doom running. Got .wad in /games/doom ......... |
| 21:50:18 | mattvt | not sure...i'd look but dont know where mine is |
| 21:50:52 | WalterEgo | Cancel and Select, just checked... Don't like that nomenclature anymore though.. :p |
| 21:52:10 | grrraham | :) |
| 21:52:26 | linuxstb | grrraham: Do you have both rockdoom.wad and doom.wad? |
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| 21:53:36 | grrraham | just doom1.wad in /games/doom/ |
| 21:54:46 | grrraham | hold on |
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| 21:58:00 | grrraham | linuxstb: thankyou. very impressive!! |
| 21:58:22 | mattvt | i think having the guide on page 15 of the manual higher up would avoid the "next" confusion - or at least a reference to it in the ums boot instruction section |
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| 22:06:08 | tkdydwk | ehyoo, it seems I've been searching in all the wrong places. |
| 22:06:21 | tkdydwk | so... see you all |
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| 22:30:23 | smp501 | How come when I plug it in with the wall adapter, it goes to disk mode and reboots forever (5G)? |
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| 22:30:47 | n1s | because you don't hold down menu button |
| 22:30:48 | rasher | you need to hold down something when you plug the wall adapter |
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| 22:31:24 | BHSPitMonkey | told you. |
| 22:33:42 | smp501 | thx! |
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| 22:45:14 | senab | just compiled rockbox |
| 22:45:45 | senab | now when i try and view directorys they're not in alphabetical order |
| 22:45:55 | senab | has anyone else noted this? |
| 22:46:03 | rasher | Did you perhaps change the sorting order? |
| 22:46:27 | senab | is there a sorting order setting? |
| 22:46:42 | rasher | Yup, under file view |
| 22:46:51 | senab | oh ye, silly me |
| 22:47:01 | senab | dunno how that got changed |
| 22:47:24 | senab | i'm having a bit of mental block tonight, forgive me lol |
| 22:47:25 | senab | :) |
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| 22:48:51 | senab | hmmm seems some of the default settings are a bit wrong |
| 22:48:56 | senab | eq is on by default |
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| 22:50:01 | petur | senab: building a patched version? |
| 22:50:20 | senab | yep, but only wps patches |
| 22:50:41 | petur | one of the patches maybe added some settings without changing the config block version |
| 22:50:49 | petur | reset the settings by hand |
| 22:50:53 | senab | true |
| 22:51:33 | senab | i like the new menu header with the level up directory at the top |
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| 22:55:43 | senab | has the keypress enables backlight only setting been taken out |
| 22:55:50 | senab | *? can't see it anywhere? |
| 22:55:53 | petur | no |
| 22:56:27 | senab | i'm looking in the wrong menu, woops |
| 22:56:30 | petur | LCD Settings |
| 22:57:10 | senab | found it, cheers |
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| 23:13:33 | Kitt0s | can i install windows vista on my x5? |
| 23:14:17 | rasher | As in, using the X5 for a harddrive? |
| 23:14:42 | Kitt0s | lol no nvm :D |
| 23:15:56 | Soap | Vista might be hard, I have a working port of XP, not ready post it yet to the tracker, but I could make a video. |
| 23:16:15 | dan_a | lol |
| 23:16:58 | Bagder | you can use my "Rockbox running on X movie construction kit" |
| 23:17:13 | Bagder | soon for sale in a shop near you |
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| 23:18:05 | smp500 | How do I set the tag cache to not look at the stuff used by the iTunes DB |
| 23:18:15 | smp500 | Now i have double everything |
| 23:18:46 | scorche | you have to delete the itunes DB |
| 23:19:41 | rasher | someone should make a general non-device specific simulator version with configurable screensize. And lirc input support. Please? |
| 23:20:35 | amiconn | Bagder: Got my question (log 15:40)? |
| 23:20:37 | Soap | I'm confused smp500 - You have songs added by itunes, AND songs copied over into the filetree? |
| 23:21:08 | Bagder | amiconn: no there's no time frame afaik |
| 23:21:21 | amiconn | hmm :\ |
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| 23:22:07 | scorche | went to a wedding 2 days ago as best man...i wore my rockbox shirt =D |
| 23:22:22 | Bagder | that's the spirit! ;-) |
| 23:22:22 | scorche | now everyone who see the wedding pictures will see rockbox.org =P |
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| 23:24:40 | cinic | I need help with installation of rockbox |
| 23:25:05 | rasher | What's the question |
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| 23:25:59 | cinic | 1 minutes please :) |
| 23:26:16 | cinic | I speak french is not easy for me to talk english:P |
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| 23:27:16 | amiconn | grrrr |
| 23:27:42 | Seed | splitland |
| 23:28:04 | cinic | I installed rockbox but my ipod posts me a message : Use Itunes to restore |
| 23:28:12 | rasher | At least irssi detects it and only shows one line for the split, and one for the join. |
| 23:28:42 | cinic | help me please :-) |
| 23:29:31 | markun | cinic: doesn't the ipod work anymore? |
| 23:29:43 | Soap | cinic: It appears you made a mistake installing the bootloader. |
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| 23:30:40 | cinic | Markun: Not, it functions but I cannot go on rockbox because it posts unceasingly since the installation of rockbox: Use itunes to restore |
| 23:31:41 | cinic | Soap: How can I repair my error? |
| 23:31:59 | Soap | cinic: If you were a good boy and only made one mistake you can do the command: |
| 23:32:07 | Soap | ipodpatcher -w N bootpartition.bin |
| 23:32:35 | cinic | Ok |
| 23:32:39 | Soap | replacing the "N" with the number for your ipod you discovered in step 1B of the instructions. |
| 23:32:58 | Soap | This will restore your stock bootpartition to the ipod. |
| 23:33:18 | cinic | I will test that |
| 23:33:59 | Soap | If you were not a good boy, and corrupted not only the boot partion of your ipod, but also your bootpartion.bin file, you will need to either use itunes to restore your ipod (does this cause him to lose his music?) or get a proper bootpartition.bin file from someone else. |
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| 23:34:45 | cinic | ok |
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| 23:36:01 | cinic | 2 minutes please.. |
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| 23:37:59 | Soap | going outside for a smoke cinic, brb |
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| 23:38:49 | tempi | Hi. anyone here who has worked on the new iPod 5.5G to make it work with rockbox? |
| 23:39:06 | cinic | I have to test the order |
| 23:40:07 | cinic | Soap: The menu principal of my ipod is become again like front. Is Rockbox installed? |
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| 23:44:43 | Soap | ok cinic, I don't quite follow what you just said. |
| 23:46:14 | cinic | I did what you said to me and maintaining my ipod to be started again and it is become again like front |
| 23:46:38 | cinic | I did what you said to me and **now my ipod to be started again and it is become again like front |
| 23:46:54 | rasher | I don't understand "become again like front" |
| 23:47:10 | cinic | I'm not good in english :S |
| 23:47:12 | hcs | like new? |
| 23:47:15 | Soap | like new? |
| 23:47:30 | markun | cinic: rockbox doesn't look the same a the original apple firmware |
| 23:48:12 | cinic | 2 minutes |
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| 23:49:35 | cinic | my ipod is become again as usual |
| 23:49:51 | markun | cinic: yes, so it's not loading rockbox |
| 23:50:01 | Soap | good, now you need to try to do the bootloader again. |
| 23:50:06 | cinic | okay |
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| 23:50:39 | Soap | you should never need to run ipodpatcher -r N bootpartition.bin again. |
| 23:50:55 | Soap | since your bootpartition.bin file is apparently in good shape. |
| 23:51:00 | Soap | what ipod do you have? |
| 23:51:17 | cinic | Ipod Nano |
| 23:51:20 | cinic | 1Go |
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| 23:53:05 | cinic | Soap: I am ready to make the next stages with you |
| 23:53:30 | Soap | what install instructions are you using? |
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| 23:54:02 | cinic | http://www.01net.com/editorial/331334/musique/ajoutez-des-fonctions-a-votre-ipod/ |
| 23:54:42 | Soap | ahh, I can't read any languages save Latin and English, so I can't confirm the validity of those instructions. |
| 23:55:08 | hcs | my French isn't very good but I'll take a look |
| 23:55:14 | Soap | I'm willing to bet, though, that they don't take into account the changed install instructions for the Nano with Apple Firmware 1.2 |
| 23:55:19 | cinic | am of Quebec in Canada |
| 23:55:22 | cinic | I |
| 23:55:24 | Soap | as I bet that is where your install failed. |
| 23:55:51 | cinic | okay |
| 23:55:55 | Soap | What number did you discover your ipod to be in step 1B? |
| 23:56:28 | cinic | 1 |
| 23:57:04 | amiconn | hrmph |
| 23:57:07 | Soap | do you have a copy of bootloader-nano.bin? |
| 23:57:43 | amiconn | Someone broke the nice ibss exclusion from the binary... and this went undetected for quite some time |
| 23:58:03 | cinic | I don't understand |
| 23:58:06 | cinic | copy?? |
| 23:58:14 | hcs | Soap: it only has information about the firmware for the 5g video, not the extra for the 1.2 nano |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).