00:00:30 | webguest57 | Eventually...maybe i should stick with ipodlinux for videos |
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00:02:45 | Genre9mp3 | oh... I think I'm going to cry |
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00:09:49 | linuxstb | Off-topic question - does anyone know a Mac OS X tool which will split a WAV/AIFF file based on a cuesheet? |
00:11:09 | [g2] | linuxstb ditto on an mp3 |
00:11:40 | [g2] | linuxstb I was wondering if audacity can be command line driven |
00:12:39 | linuxstb | mp3directcut will do the job for an mp3. Not sure how it handles things like gapless though. |
00:13:29 | petur | files cut with mp3direct cut sound gapless to me |
00:13:46 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: I don't remember having gap problems using mp3directcut |
00:14:29 | linuxstb | Thinking about it, it must cut on mp3 frame boundaries, so yes, gapless shouldn't be an issue. Does it handle VBR OK? |
00:15:37 | petur | I think it does |
00:15:48 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: Can't say for sure... most files I used with were CBR but I guess there won't be any problems |
00:15:57 | petur | mine are VBR |
00:16:03 | Genre9mp3 | ah... 2nd again :/ |
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00:16:41 | petur | but it does sometimes put up a dialogbox, but I don't know if it's a warning or just information |
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00:22:35 | * | petur still doesn't know for sure if he needs to use HOST or OTG mode :/ |
00:23:20 | preglow | jhMikeS: you were wondering about something spdif yesterday? |
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00:28:38 | jhMikeS | wanted to know if you were the one because I wanted to credit you in the files I created |
00:28:44 | Terinjokes | hey, how does rockbox's last.fm feature work? |
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00:29:05 | jhMikeS | The commit is building now. See if it's acceptable. |
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00:30:01 | linuxstb | Terinjokes: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog |
00:31:17 | jhMikeS | preglow: and besides the the S/PDIF standard available? I can't find anything on line and the datasheet just says refer to IEC958-3 regarding EBURcvCChannel. |
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00:33:16 | Terinjokes | i see |
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00:37:00 | preglow | jhMikeS: haven't found a good one myself |
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00:37:13 | preglow | jhMikeS: i think i found what details i needed via the wikipedia page |
00:37:32 | jhMikeS | bummer. I really want the info. Maybe could decode dolby surround ? :P |
00:39:02 | preglow | heh |
00:39:05 | preglow | tell me if you find it |
00:39:07 | preglow | but bedtime now |
00:39:07 | preglow | later |
00:39:10 | jhMikeS | night |
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01:17:51 | jba | hi guys anyone around? |
01:17:59 | jba | linuxstb, are you awake? |
01:19:29 | jba | am trying to discover the meaning of this following snippet so i can apply it's knowledge to something i'm working on at the gigabeat port: |
01:19:38 | jba | 22.56.24 # <slimx> ld: error: no memory region specified for loadable section `.glue_7' on LD vorbis.elf |
01:19:45 | jba | 22.57.07 # <linuxstb> slimx: Fix apps/plugins/plugin.lds |
01:19:56 | jba | 22.57.43 # <linuxstb> (the best fix will be to use #ifdef CPU_ARM around the .glue sections) |
01:20:11 | jba | should that be an #ifndef or and @ifdef? |
01:20:17 | jba | #idfef |
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01:22:11 | linuxstb | jba: I am about to go to bed, but looking at apps/plugins/plugin.lds, that fix has already been applied, although not with CPU_ARM. |
01:22:30 | linuxstb | (it checks for three different ARM processors) |
01:22:32 | jba | yeah that was gonna be my next question |
01:22:54 | jba | i need to find the arm procesor of the gigabeat and add it then? |
01:23:34 | jba | linuxstb, i thought something like that was happening |
01:24:10 | linuxstb | Are you getting the same message for the gigabeat then? |
01:24:18 | jba | yeah |
01:24:30 | jba | trying to build meg-fx gigabeat target and getting that messag |
01:24:47 | jba | am relatively new to rockbox/gigabeat port, thought i dive into the first bug i found :( |
01:25:14 | linuxstb | Then I would just replace that whole #if with "#ifdef CPU_ARM". |
01:25:38 | jba | will do for now, but would love to find where the CONFIG_CPU is #defined |
01:25:42 | jba | am grepping source for that now |
01:26:09 | jba | what's the row comment character for lds files? |
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01:26:57 | jba | linuxstb, found the #define CONFIG_CPU S3C2440 in export\gigabeat.h can i just use that? |
01:27:02 | jba | or is that likely to change in the future? |
01:27:26 | linuxstb | Yes, but CPU_ARM seems a better choice. I think that line was added to plugin.lds before we had the CPU_ARM define. |
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01:28:20 | jba | aah cool then |
01:28:22 | jba | i'll use that |
01:28:30 | jba | and make sure gigabeat.h define's CPU_ARM |
01:28:41 | jba | i don't need to send a patch to the mailing list for this do i? |
01:30:09 | linuxstb | It's probably best to mention it to one of the gigabeat devs (I think markun is the only one with CVS access). Or wait until you have a number of similar small fixes, and post a patch to the patch tracker. |
01:30:15 | linuxstb | As I said, I'm about to go to bed... |
01:30:47 | linuxstb | And yes, CPU_ARM is defined for the gigabeat in firmware/export/config.h |
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01:31:03 | jba | linuxstb, thanks mate, sorry for keeping you ap |
01:31:07 | jba | up |
01:31:08 | jba | and good night |
01:31:34 | linuxstb | goodnight. |
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01:45:44 | jba | anyone know where i can get someinfo on what the .icode section in the lds file is for? |
01:55:08 | JdGordon | stuff that goes in the IRAM? |
01:55:53 | jba | i'm just trying to figure out why the gigabeat build is complaining about icode when it tries to link flac elf |
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02:01:54 | JdGordon | jba: are you #defining USE_IRAM or ICODE_ATTR anywhere? |
02:03:14 | jba | not sure |
02:03:43 | jba | it's the gigabeat port, though i don't think it is. I decided to learn more about ld than i remembered from my uni days. it's just too hazy |
02:04:34 | JdGordon | they are defined in config.h.. and they dont look like they would be defined, unless explicilty called... if your getting .icode errors, its probably undefinineg them would fix it |
02:06:30 | jba | JdGordon, are you saying that undefining them will fix it, or that they are probably not defined? |
02:06:41 | JdGordon | both... |
02:06:47 | JdGordon | if they are defined, undef them |
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02:07:26 | jba | because it seems the part of plugin.lds that has .icode in it, is inside an #if defined(IRAMSIZE) |
02:07:34 | jba | so looks like ineed to def IRAMSIZE |
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02:08:10 | jba | but i have no idea what my iramsize for the gigabeat would be |
02:08:36 | JdGordon | so, its best to tell it you have no iram at all... |
02:08:58 | JdGordon | have a look @ config.h line 285 |
02:10:10 | jba | so your saying in config-gigabeat.h i should undef USE_IRAM till we figure out the ram size we have? |
02:10:54 | JdGordon | is USE_IRAM defined at all in config-gigabeat.h already? |
02:11:10 | jba | no, not anywhere i can find |
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02:12:11 | JdGordon | what about export/config.h? |
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02:12:30 | jba | yeah it's in export/config.h but not export/config-gigabeat.h |
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02:13:03 | JdGordon | ok, in config.h, is the define ifdefed out? |
02:13:13 | JdGordon | hey aliask, guess what :D |
02:13:26 | aliask | What? |
02:13:42 | jba | hey JdGordon looks like it is deffed out yeah |
02:13:46 | jba | hey aliask |
02:13:57 | aliask | Morning! |
02:14:04 | JdGordon | im starting the settings stuff bassically from scratch and no boost thrashing yet :D and iam loading config from disk |
02:14:16 | aliask | Woo, big job - hope it goes well. |
02:14:20 | aliask | Got my gigabeat today! |
02:14:30 | jba | JdGordon, it's inside the #if !defined(SIMULATOR) ... line |
02:14:37 | aliask | I was all pissed off because they rang my doorbell when I was in the shower |
02:14:40 | JdGordon | jba: hmm... if its ifdeffed out then it shouldnt be casugin problems... maybe just remove the flac codec for the target? |
02:14:52 | jba | yeah that's the easy way out though |
02:15:06 | JdGordon | aliask: haha, excact thing happened to me a while ago, had to call the courier to get him to come back |
02:15:20 | jba | hang on, i misread, it might not be deffed out |
02:15:24 | jba | i might try deffing it out |
02:15:24 | JdGordon | pulled it apart yet so we can start porting it? |
02:15:53 | aliask | In the process now |
02:16:05 | aliask | Not sure that the harddrive connector is compatible :( |
02:16:29 | aliask | It's a ribbon cable, but I don't have any other players that have ribbon cable connectors for the harddrive. |
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03:31:33 | webguest38 | hey everyone |
03:31:39 | webguest38 | hi all |
03:32:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | scorche: That image is lovely. |
03:32:26 | scorche | thanks =) |
03:33:45 | webguest38 | how do you boot into the origional ipod os from the rockbox loader? |
03:33:54 | scorche | hold menu while booting |
03:34:01 | webguest38 | im in a hurry, thats why i didnt consult the forum |
03:34:02 | webguest38 | and thanks |
03:34:23 | webguest38 | bye |
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03:39:02 | Paul_the_Nerd | "consult the forum" rather than the manual... =/ |
03:40:38 | scorche | i know...oh well |
03:40:39 | Soap | until the download page requires a essay test on the manual... |
03:41:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | I updated the agreement you click when you join the forums to include an agreement to read the posting guidelines. |
03:42:02 | scorche | we just need to have it ask what they like most about rockbox in one word |
03:42:13 | Soap | DOOM! |
03:42:14 | scorche | and if they type games or doom, dont allow them to download |
03:42:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
03:43:17 | Soap | the "captcha" for registering should always be "iwillreadthemanual" |
03:44:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
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04:16:58 | Diznaiznongs | Hello sirs, has there been any progress on the 80gb 5.5g? |
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04:20:22 | scorche | no |
04:23:23 | Diznaiznongs | :( |
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04:26:38 | scorche | you will see any progress on the forum thread |
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04:29:24 | Diznaiznongs | I checked it and it seemed hopeful, people were talking about some loader2 program and rockzilla |
04:29:29 | Diznaiznongs | but I don't know what those things are |
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06:11:30 | Steve132 | Hey...you know the mp3 data player functions in the plugin api? Where can I learn how to use them? The prototypes aren't all that helpful by themselve |
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06:18:51 | abbubezleeb | Steve132: Look in playback.c and talk.c |
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06:49:13 | daurnimator | yo |
06:50:57 | aliask | yo |
06:51:40 | Steve132 | I just looked around in playback.c and talk.c...I got some interesting information |
06:51:55 | Steve132 | but it didn't give me everything I needed |
06:52:36 | Steve132 | How does one use the api->mp3_play_data function? |
06:55:08 | abbubezleeb | If you want to play a single clip pass start and size, leaving the callback NULL. If you want to play data continuously, use the callback and make start NULL and size 0. |
06:55:48 | abbubezleeb | You callback will be called during the call to mp3_play_data and everytime more data is required. |
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06:58:26 | abbubezleeb | actually, only the pcm play and record functions make the initial call that way now that I look |
06:58:30 | daurnimator | when did JdGordon last talk? |
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06:58:56 | Bagder | daurnimator: ~5 hours ago |
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07:06:12 | newbyx86 | ahhhh |
07:06:15 | newbyx86 | the dawn of the zune cometh |
07:06:21 | newbyx86 | and when I get mine, I'm going to work at haxxoring it. |
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07:10:42 | Steve132 | so...hypothetical usage |
07:10:47 | Steve132 | I have a buffer |
07:10:52 | Steve132 | of mp3 data |
07:11:05 | Steve132 | like..only one channel..or loaded from a file or what? |
07:11:32 | Steve132 | then just call api->mp3_play_data(buffer, size, NULL); |
07:12:27 | abbubezleeb | just a buffer of mp3 data, (never actually used it) probably on a frame boundary |
07:12:33 | Steve132 | do I need to give it any information on kbps or number of channels...or... |
07:12:34 | Steve132 | ok |
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08:28:41 | diluted^ | hey how do i remove rockbox from my ipod |
08:29:28 | scorche | uninstallation instructions are right there with the installations ones in the manual |
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08:43:09 | diluted^ | uhm |
08:43:20 | diluted^ | when i restart it still shows rockbox boot loader screen |
08:43:31 | diluted^ | it loads original firmware but i dont want rockbox anything on i t |
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08:45:09 | hcs | you have to write back the original boot partition, instructions to do this should be on whatever page you were using for installation |
08:45:34 | scorche | as i said... |
08:45:51 | hcs | bears repeating |
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08:46:06 | diluted^ | so simply just making another boot partition won't do it |
08:47:07 | hcs | letting the Apple software reformat your iPod will work... not sure otherwise what you mean |
08:49:24 | diluted^ | well i didnt have the original bootpartition.bin |
08:49:42 | diluted^ | so i just ipodpatcher -r'd it |
08:49:47 | diluted^ | and didnt do the other commands |
08:50:02 | scorche | the installation procedure recommended that you keep that file... |
08:50:23 | diluted^ | hm i didnt though |
08:50:28 | diluted^ | and it still shows rockbox crap |
08:50:29 | diluted^ | ;( |
08:50:39 | diluted^ | i made another which has to be just like the one before |
08:50:46 | scorche | crap? |
08:50:57 | diluted^ | yeah like the bootscreen |
08:51:00 | scorche | you cant make another without the original file |
08:51:11 | diluted^ | eh why :| |
08:51:12 | scorche | as in rockbox is far from crap =P |
08:51:29 | scorche | now, you have to either get bootpartition.bin from someone or use the ipod restore utility |
08:51:38 | diluted^ | rockbox is battery consuming |
08:52:23 | diluted^ | and it cant charge/run at the same time |
08:52:32 | markun | you can |
08:52:37 | scorche | it can |
08:53:00 | diluted^ | hows that |
08:53:08 | scorche | hold menu while inserting the cable |
08:53:55 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_can_I_charge_the_iPod_via_US |
08:54:21 | markun | diluted^: did you try the apply updater to get rid of rockbox? |
08:54:29 | markun | apple, not apply :) |
08:54:48 | diluted^ | apple updater? |
08:54:56 | diluted^ | hmm what is that :P |
08:55:13 | markun | Don't know what it's called exactly. Their tool to update the firmware. |
08:55:23 | scorche | i think it is a part of itunes |
08:55:36 | diluted^ | hm, didnt they used to use it and don't anymore |
08:56:11 | diluted^ | it simply won't let me in iTunes |
08:56:12 | hcs | what iPod do you have? |
08:56:22 | diluted^ | the 60gb video |
08:56:36 | hcs | ah, then I can't help you with bootpartition.bin |
08:56:41 | diluted^ | :| |
08:57:01 | diluted^ | well I'll go to sleep hopefully someone will read this and be available in the morning |
08:57:12 | diluted^ | thanks guys |
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09:09:19 | JdGordon | morning amiconn, you around yet? |
09:10:50 | JdGordon | Bagder: you around? |
09:14:24 | daurnimator | i say... no |
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09:21:03 | JdGordon | w00t... the config block is going to be dumped very soon :D |
09:21:46 | * | scorche jinxes it |
09:22:00 | JdGordon | haha... dont.. please dont :p |
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10:00:12 | myzar | GENTLEMEN |
10:00:14 | myzar | i have arrived. |
10:01:26 | hcs | all your rock are belong to box |
10:02:08 | hcs | or was it more of an ATHF "GENTLEMEN"? |
10:02:35 | myzar | more of an ATHF |
10:02:40 | myzar | but nice catch on AYB |
10:02:40 | myzar | <3 |
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10:11:37 | vx | hi, are there news for the sansa port ? Did the dan_a patch permit to read all the flash ? |
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11:02:19 | JdGordon | hmm... does anyone think it is a huge deal if the config files use the full path instead of just filenames for the wps/font/background files? |
11:02:43 | JdGordon | currently only blaa.ext is saved, but i want to change it to /.rockbox/path/blaa.ext |
11:03:42 | petur | wouldn't that cause more RAM usage for config? |
11:05:10 | JdGordon | well yes, but the set_file() whould be removed, and it makes simpler code, so the little increase wouldnt be all that bad |
11:05:53 | amiconn | You would still need to check the path |
11:06:01 | JdGordon | why? |
11:06:28 | amiconn | A wps / font /whatever is only persistent if it's stored in the appropriate dir |
11:06:55 | JdGordon | only because only the filename is stored now... if im allowed to save the full path then this is no problem |
11:06:57 | amiconn | If it's stored elsewhere, it's only unsed until shutdown, and not stored in the config |
11:07:05 | amiconn | This is a feature... |
11:07:13 | amiconn | s/unsed/used/ |
11:07:28 | * | petur would rather want fixed locations for user files *outside* the .rockbox tree |
11:07:34 | JdGordon | can the feature be removed? |
11:08:02 | amiconn | I would prefer to keep it |
11:08:05 | JdGordon | I dont really want to make the settings saving/loading function any more complicated than it already is |
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11:09:30 | amiconn | Besides, storing the full path in global_settings wastes ram |
11:09:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: also, you said default_event_handler_ex is only ever called in the main thread right? |
11:09:40 | amiconn | yes |
11:10:15 | JdGordon | so its safe to use that to call the dump setting file function? because it is likely to stkOv other threads |
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11:19:56 | JdGordon | bah! done |
11:20:40 | aliask | Grats! |
11:21:32 | JdGordon | almost... |
11:21:44 | aliask | Heh |
11:21:55 | * | JdGordon wonders if it would be ok to commit the settings file part of the patch before the menu stuff goes in |
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11:40:41 | Genre9mp3 | http://www.engadget.com/2006/11/13/installing-the-zune-sucked/ |
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11:57:44 | robin24 | Hi! Can anyone help me with the Bootloader instalation on an iPod please? I'm having trouble with the ipodpatcher. |
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12:44:06 | jonah1980 | hi can anyone please please help me rockbox my ipod under linux... tried to follow the howto guide and just got stuck! |
12:44:29 | jonah1980 | did the dmesg bit to try find the ipod connection and can't see it so don't know where to go nest |
12:44:34 | jonah1980 | *next |
12:44:53 | jonah1980 | i've got ubuntu edgy |
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12:47:25 | jonah1980 | hello any help would be greatly appreciated thanks |
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12:59:55 | daurnimator | JdGordon: you there/ |
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13:01:45 | jba | hey guys, where is BUTTON_OFF actually defined? All i can see is BATTERY_OFF being defined to BUTTON_OFF in battery_bench.c |
13:01:57 | jba | but nowhere can i find BUTTON_OFF being defined |
13:02:09 | barrywardell_ | jba: for which target? |
13:02:13 | jba | any |
13:02:29 | barrywardell_ | it's in button.h, or button-target.h |
13:02:44 | jba | barrywardell_, trying to get the gigabeat to build successfully and it's complaining about BATTER_OFF not being def'ed cause BUTTON_OFF isn't def'ed |
13:02:45 | jba | tah |
13:03:53 | barrywardell_ | for the gigabeat, it would be in firmware/target/arm/gigabeat/meg-fx/button-target.h |
13:06:21 | jba | no it's not in there or in the ipod |
13:06:27 | barrywardell_ | jba: you should be looking in apps/plugins/battery_bench.c |
13:06:29 | jba | POWEROFF_BUTTON is though |
13:06:46 | barrywardell_ | you need to define buttons there |
13:06:48 | jba | barrywardell_, that's the file that won't build cause it reference's an undef'ed BATTERY_OFF |
13:07:06 | barrywardell_ | you need to define BATTERY_OFF in that file |
13:07:45 | jba | hmm, why would it not be defined? battery_bench.c isn't arch specific is it? |
13:08:04 | barrywardell_ | nope, but the button mappings are |
13:08:41 | barrywardell_ | look at how BATTERY_OFF is defined for other targets in that file and do something similar for the gigabeat |
13:09:34 | jba | I get it |
13:09:38 | jba | god damn pre-processor logic |
13:09:47 | jba | it's not indented so i forget about the conditionals |
13:10:48 | barrywardell_ | something like this would work http://pastebin.ca/248225 |
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13:11:42 | jba | tah |
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13:16:50 | jba | where would GIGABEAT_PAD be def'ed, to make sure it's there? |
13:17:05 | jba | in config.h |
13:17:06 | jba | found it |
13:17:28 | jba | god damn jedit grep is slow on the vmaware share |
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13:21:00 | Gnelik1111 | barrywardell_: Hi! Do you need any help in work on sansa??? |
13:21:23 | barrywardell_ | Gnelik: i'm gonna commit your improved button driver |
13:21:41 | barrywardell_ | but need your real name to add to the credits list |
13:22:52 | Gnelik1111 | Pavel Gnelitsa |
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13:24:58 | jba | it's basically a whole bunch of missing def's for the gigabeat |
13:25:02 | jba | i think i got it going forward |
13:25:04 | jba | though |
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13:26:34 | barrywardell_ | Gnelik: another thing that needs to be done at some stage is to get a normal sansa build to compile. |
13:26:59 | barrywardell_ | it's mostly just keymaps need adding for things like usb, etc |
13:27:20 | jba | barrywardell_, now i get metronome complaining about duplicate cases because METRONOME_VOL_DOWN is defined as BUTTON_UP |
13:27:25 | jba | and both of those are in the case statement |
13:27:47 | jba | am i missing something there? |
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13:29:06 | barrywardell_ | you'll probably need to define METRONOME_VOL_DOWN as some other button |
13:29:25 | markun | jba: are you making a mess of it? :) |
13:29:29 | jba | hmm, but other targs have it defined as BUTTON_UP and down |
13:29:36 | jba | markun, hey mate, just figuring it out |
13:29:46 | jba | as i said earlier mate, it seems to be a sea of missing defs |
13:30:11 | markun | strange, before I tried vadim's patch I didn't have any problems |
13:30:19 | markun | Isn't it fixed in wibbix' patch? |
13:30:25 | jba | well i did do a cvs up today |
13:30:39 | jba | wibbix said his patch mapped memory differently, so not to apply |
13:30:50 | jba | i keep fixing one def, and finding another |
13:31:19 | markun | You don't have to apply all of the path of course |
13:31:39 | jba | well i don't know enough to disern it |
13:31:44 | barrywardell_ | jba: if you just want to get it to compile, you could tell it not to compile the plugins |
13:31:46 | jba | better to try and get it working and learn |
13:32:01 | barrywardell_ | look in apps/plugins/SOURCES |
13:32:02 | jba | want to learn what it all means barrywardell_, best way is to get it to compile cleanly |
13:32:20 | jba | markun, it's complaining about one more value METRONOME_TAP, but we never def that |
13:32:26 | jba | what should I chose for it? |
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13:33:40 | jba | i have it as button_select, which is also BUTTON_PLAY |
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13:35:12 | jba | I just made it BUTTON_A for now |
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13:35:59 | jba | hey markun i got it to build cleanly now |
13:36:12 | jba | woohoo |
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14:13:50 | JdGordon | is there any reason why logf builds wouldnt display the log on the remote? |
14:14:46 | JdGordon | ok, it doesnt even think it is a logf build!!! but i enabled it in configure, and did make clean && make... twice! |
14:16:34 | Gnelik | Bagder: I am trying to do normal sansa build |
14:16:43 | Gnelik | i have corected all erors |
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14:17:08 | Gnelik | But when it doing LD rockbox.elf |
14:17:44 | Gnelik | It shows me a lot things like this main.c:(.text.init+0x424): undefined reference to `power_init' |
14:19:02 | Gnelik | Ok. Can anybody help me???? |
14:20:19 | markun | Gnelik: do you have a power_init in the power-*.c file in the target tree? |
14:21:03 | markun | Look at other targets for help |
14:21:07 | Gnelik | yes i copyed |
14:21:14 | Gnelik | most of files from h10 |
14:21:23 | markun | And did you include the files in firmware/SOURCES? |
14:21:40 | Gnelik | Nope |
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14:21:45 | Gnelik | I just found it |
14:21:48 | markun | ok |
14:21:54 | Gnelik | Thanks |
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14:26:55 | Gnelik | markun: Where are system_init and system_reboot situated?? |
14:28:03 | markun | for arm targets they are still in firmware/system.c I think |
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14:37:39 | pethern | nisk |
14:39:31 | markun | pethern: you again.. :) |
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14:42:18 | Gnelik | What can i do with it?? |
14:42:31 | Gnelik | f000000 -> 0f0004ff] overlaps section .stack [0f000148 -> 0f002147] |
14:42:31 | Gnelik | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
14:42:50 | Gnelik | > /opt/arm/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.2/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: region IRAM is full ( |
14:42:50 | Gnelik | >/home/Ïàâåë/rockbox/e200/apps/rockbox.elf section .stack) |
14:42:50 | Gnelik | >/opt/arm/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.2/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: section .cop_stack [0 |
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14:42:50 | Gnelik | >f000000 -> 0f0004ff] overlaps section .stack [0f000148 -> 0f002147] |
14:42:50 | Gnelik | >collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
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14:49:08 | pethern | m |
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14:52:42 | pethern | ni |
14:53:44 | Gnelik | markun: Can't you help me??? |
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14:58:13 | pethern | <7mdh nickserv |
14:59:15 | amiconn | ? |
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15:00:17 | JdGordon | wooot! got settings working from config.cfg 100% and fully backwards compatable |
15:02:38 | markun | Gnelik: sorry, I know very little about the linker files |
15:03:25 | markun | JdGordon: So no more settings reset after a rockbox update, right? |
15:03:42 | JdGordon | yup :) |
15:04:13 | markun | Is there a big size increase? |
15:05:11 | JdGordon | atm, there proabbly is a bit (about to do a test).. but there is alot of unused data which is going to be used for the reworked menus, so hopefully the size will drop |
15:06:22 | JdGordon | Is anyone planning on fiddling with the global_settings struct any time soon? |
15:06:47 | JdGordon | 2200byte increase on the h300 now, but with unused code.. |
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15:59:17 | Gnelik | What does it meens and what can i do with it??? |
15:59:36 | Gnelik | >/home/Ïàâåë/rockbox/e200/apps/rockbox.elf section .stack) |
15:59:36 | Gnelik | >/opt/arm/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.2/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: section .cop_stack [0 |
15:59:36 | Gnelik | >f000000 -> 0f0004ff] overlaps section .stack [0f000148 -> 0f002147] |
15:59:36 | Gnelik | >collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
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16:00:02 | Gnelik | >/opt/arm/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.2/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: region IRAM is full ( |
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16:10:16 | markun | Gnelik: I hope someone who can help you will read the logs |
16:11:15 | amiconn | It just means what it says |
16:11:34 | amiconn | (1) region IRAM is full, i.e. there is too much going to iram |
16:14:53 | Gnelik | Can i fix it? |
16:15:37 | amiconn | (2) Somehow there are overlapping (sub-)sections |
16:16:36 | amiconn | I don't know how iram is defined for the sansa, perhaps there is a mistake |
16:16:47 | amiconn | Check the linker script and the .map |
16:17:17 | amiconn | Something missing for PP5024 is quite likely |
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16:18:36 | preglow | what, the cfg patch is suddenly _bigger_ ? |
16:19:42 | preglow | heh |
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16:34:45 | webguest20 | What is the current status of the recording feature on H120? There were some messages in the forums about some possible bugs. |
16:35:10 | nls | why don't you try it? |
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16:36:03 | lowlight | preglow: do you see anything fundamentally wrong with this patch to strip ape tags? http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/strip_apetags.patch.txt |
16:36:07 | nls | I don't think there are any known bugs in recording after jhMikeS fixed the optical |
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16:42:40 | webguest20 | nls: thanks. @petur: do you agree? |
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16:44:20 | jonah1980 | hi is there anything i can use to do a disk scan on my ipod under linux to make sure there's not bad sectors etc and fix any problems? |
16:44:27 | jonah1980 | i've got rockbox installed |
16:44:48 | nls | fsck.vfat |
16:44:57 | preglow | lowlight: can't say that i do, no |
16:45:24 | jonah1980 | fsck.vfat ? how do i do that? is it safe? |
16:45:53 | nls | jonah1980, unmount it first and then run it on the device. |
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16:46:18 | nls | meh |
16:46:29 | lowlight | preglow: thanks...commit sent |
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16:49:04 | jonah1980 | hi sorry i closed the chat by accident. ok my ipod is on /dev/sdf but fsck doesn't seem to work, does it have to be ext2 cos mines fat |
16:49:34 | rasher | fsck.vfat doesn't find bad sectors |
16:49:49 | rasher | jonah1980: you need to run "fsck.vfat", not fsck |
16:50:00 | rasher | But again, fsck doesn't find bad sectors afaik |
16:50:01 | jonah1980 | basically it's a second hand ipod and i just got it, rockboxed it and just wanted to scan to make sure and fix any probs |
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16:51:12 | jonah1980 | so i just wanted to know what disk utility for linux i could use to get my ipod in good shape? |
16:54:01 | jonah1980 | any help would be greatly appreciated... i tried typing fsck.vfat /dev/sdf but that just gave me an error msg |
16:54:32 | Kasperle | linux should have a "badblocks" command |
16:55:14 | rasher | that's the one |
16:55:28 | rasher | you need to pass a partition to fsck.vfat |
16:55:33 | rasher | something like /dev/sdf1 |
16:55:35 | jonah1980 | so what would i have to type just to check the thing is ok and also then to fix it if it's not? |
16:55:36 | rasher | or whatever |
16:55:57 | rasher | you can't fix bad blocks |
16:56:13 | rasher | only find them and mark them |
16:56:57 | jonah1980 | right - but typing fsck.vfat /dev/sdf1 gets me nowhere, it says cannot open device |
16:57:12 | rasher | and are you sure /dev/sdf is the correct device+ |
16:57:51 | jonah1980 | yeah that's right when i run dmesg it shows it there |
16:57:59 | jonah1980 | i've also tried sdf1 and sdf2 also |
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16:59:28 | jonah1980 | am i typing it in wrong or something? |
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16:59:50 | jonah1980 | or is there a plugin for rockbox for disk maintenance or anything? |
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17:00:17 | rasher | You're probably typing something wrong, yes |
17:00:19 | rasher | or reading wrong |
17:00:32 | jonah1980 | also when my ipod crashes (which is has a couple of times on first day of getting it) how do i know whether it's rockbox or the second hand ipod? |
17:03:12 | markun | jonah1980: if it never crashes with the original firmware it's probably rockbox |
17:04:13 | jonah1980 | markun, that's really really good to know - it's locked up and froze a couple of times while playing and won't start or skip tracks and i've had to just reboot |
17:04:29 | lowlight | Can I get premissions to close flyspray tasks |
17:05:19 | markun | lowlight: silly feature requests? |
17:05:39 | jonah1980 | so rockbox does just crash fairly often? |
17:05:40 | lowlight | my own :) |
17:05:58 | rasher | The ape tag strip? |
17:06:10 | lowlight | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5684 |
17:06:19 | rasher | Closed |
17:06:24 | lowlight | thanks |
17:06:34 | jonah1980 | and there's no one that can help me do a scan under linux on my ipod to repair the disk or check it's ok? |
17:06:59 | rasher | I think you need Linus or one of the Stenbergs to get flyspray access |
17:08:18 | rasher | jonah1980: the "light" version is running fsck.vfat /dev/sd?? |
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17:09:33 | jonah1980 | rasher, light version? i tried running fsck.vfat /dev/sdf also tried sdf1 and sdf2 |
17:09:58 | rasher | You're doing something wrong then |
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17:10:31 | jonah1980 | also tried putting sudo infront but still no such directory or file |
17:10:40 | Nico_P | i had the same kind of problem when wanting to run fsck.vfat on my h320... |
17:10:43 | rasher | Then you're using the wrong device |
17:10:57 | rasher | is the ipod mounted currently? |
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17:11:19 | rasher | (mkfs.vfat doesn't support badblocks, so you're only solution to find and mark bad blocks is windows scandisk) |
17:11:25 | rasher | your* |
17:11:50 | rasher | ah |
17:12:01 | rasher | mkfs.vfat -c will check for bad blocks |
17:12:08 | rasher | So you're not completely out of luck |
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17:12:20 | rasher | But you'll wipe out your harddisk in the process |
17:12:27 | Psiuyo | sdX won't work since you need to scan a partition, not the device. sdX1 won't work because that's where the firmware is stored. sdX2 is what you want |
17:12:45 | rasher | But you really need to figure out the correct device |
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17:13:29 | Psiuyo | try running "fdisk -l /dev/sdX" to make sure you are looking at the correct device |
17:13:54 | jonah1980 | ah i mounted it and did it on sdf 2, all it gave me was a little rundown of how many files and clusters there were - would it says if there was a problem? |
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17:15:49 | rasher | I can't make heads or tails of that.. What does "did it on sdf 2" mean? |
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17:16:59 | markun | rasher: "did it on sdf 2" = "used /dev/sdf2" |
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17:17:22 | rasher | But which command.. |
17:17:42 | rasher | And you need to UNmount to run any of these commands |
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17:20:58 | jonah1980 | rasher, sorry i'm trying - i typed fsck.vfat /dev/sdf2 |
17:21:15 | jonah1980 | but it didn't say about bad blocks or sectors/clusters etc so i still don't know if it's in good working order or not |
17:21:30 | rasher | Again, fsck does NOT check bad sectors or clusters |
17:21:35 | rasher | only filesystem inconsitencies |
17:21:47 | rasher | Eh, except spelled right. |
17:22:36 | jonah1980 | so i can't do anything to check or mark this drive under linux? i don't have windows |
17:22:45 | rasher | [17:12] <rasher> mkfs.vfat -c will check for bad blocks |
17:22:45 | rasher | [17:12] <rasher> So you're not completely out of luck |
17:22:45 | rasher | [17:12] <rasher> But you'll wipe out your harddisk in the process |
17:22:47 | amiconn | jonah1980: What type of ipod do you have? |
17:22:55 | jonah1980 | i've got a 4th gen 20gb |
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17:23:10 | Kasperle | what's the deal with "badblocks"? doesn't it work? |
17:23:33 | jonah1980 | i thought it would let me because everytime i boot ubuntu if it's the 30th mounted time it'll do a fsck things and fix any problems, so i figured i could fix the ipod in same way |
17:23:36 | amiconn | jonah1980: So the crashes could be due to cpu frequency scaling. The problem with PP5020 is still not solved |
17:23:46 | Nico_P | rasher: what about "badblocks" ? |
17:23:57 | rasher | Kasperle: It does, but you need to pass the output to mkfs.ext2/3, mkdosfs doesn't support getting badblocks input |
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17:24:20 | rasher | eh, or fsck.ext2/3 |
17:24:34 | jonah1980 | well it's second hand and i've read a lot about screwed up hardrives and damage etc. so i just wanted to check it is in good condition and the drive isn't damaged from being unplugged without unmounting or dropped in past or corrupted etc |
17:24:34 | rasher | As far as I can tell anyway |
17:25:17 | Kasperle | i see. yeah. but if you'd only want a check for now, that'd be fine |
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17:26:15 | jonah1980 | anyway i gave it a brief inspection this morning and played a couple of tracks before i rockboxed it - but this aft it's crashed a fair amount and i only have a week to make sure it's ok before i lose my amazon gaurantee, so i figured doing a scan on it or somethng would be a good idea before the week ends and i can't return it |
17:26:18 | rasher | Hrm, it appears that fsck.vfat -t might check for bad clusters, but it's not entirely clear |
17:26:44 | rasher | To be honest, I'd find a windows machine and scandisk it |
17:26:49 | jonah1980 | yeah i just want to check it out and make sure i got a good deal |
17:27:07 | jonah1980 | but doesn't scan disk wipe your hardrive, is it safe? |
17:27:11 | rasher | Try fsck.vfat -t /dev/sdf2 |
17:27:25 | rasher | It *MIGHT* check for bad clusters |
17:27:31 | rasher | -t Mark unreadable clusters as bad. |
17:27:54 | rasher | But it might also only mark problematic clusters in case they happen to be read |
17:28:02 | jonah1980 | rasher, when i do that it says "-t requires -a or -r" |
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17:28:21 | rasher | -a is automatically fix, -r is ask |
17:28:30 | rasher | you decide |
17:28:46 | rasher | (Windows scandisk doesn't wipe your drive) |
17:28:48 | Nico_P | rasher: what about "badblocks" ? |
17:28:57 | jonah1980 | ok trying that then - i've put the r for "ask" |
17:29:11 | jonah1980 | ok it seems to be doing something or other |
17:29:14 | rasher | Nico_P: the dosfstools don't seem to support badblocks output |
17:30:05 | jonah1980 | thanks for all this help, i know i'm a pain in the rear, but i just panick sometimes and want to check this thing is good before i can't get my cash back! plus if it's crashing a bit in rockbox i don't know if it's rockbox or cos the ipod is busted! |
17:30:26 | Nico_P | so badblocks will only check for bad blocks but not do anything about it, is that it ? |
17:30:59 | rasher | Yes |
17:31:11 | rasher | it will output a list of bad blocks |
17:31:20 | jonah1980 | plus cos i use linux all my audio is mainly ogg, so i need rockbox! hehe |
17:31:20 | rasher | which you can then give to fsck.ext3 |
17:31:55 | jonah1980 | well at the moment its not giving me any progress report or anything, just still in the terminal, but i don't have a prompt anymore |
17:32:04 | jonah1980 | does that mean it's still scanning? |
17:32:12 | rasher | Probably |
17:32:27 | Nico_P | jonah1980: yes, and from my experience, it can take a while |
17:32:41 | jonah1980 | ok cool |
17:33:03 | jonah1980 | would i have been better off formatting the thing to ext2 to begin with? |
17:33:27 | evilnick | is anyone good with the tagcache config options? |
17:34:17 | rasher | jonah1980: wouldn't work with rockbox |
17:34:27 | jonah1980 | rasher, that's a shame |
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17:35:19 | rasher | It'd add a lot of complexity for very little gain |
17:35:22 | rasher | same deal with HFS+ |
17:35:42 | jonah1980 | but woudn't it be more reliable? |
17:35:57 | rasher | For a thing like a DAP, not really |
17:36:11 | rasher | Not significantly anyway |
17:36:54 | jonah1980 | how do i even know if this thing is scanning, it's not doing anything still that i'm aware of |
17:37:37 | jonah1980 | the cursor is flashing i suppose that's a good sign - roughly how long do you think it'll take? |
17:38:11 | rasher | I've never used it, so I frankly have no idea |
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17:38:40 | rasher | I wouldn't be surprised at all if it took 30 minutes or more |
17:39:17 | evilnick | Can anyone lend a hand in editing my custom tagnavi.config? |
17:39:41 | jonah1980 | wow i need to go out, and was hoping to take it with me, can i stop the thing or should i just leave it? |
17:40:08 | rasher | I doubt anything bad will happen if you stop it |
17:40:32 | jonah1980 | how do i stop it? |
17:40:33 | rasher | evilnick: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TagCache#tagnavi_config_v2_0_Syntax is all I can offer |
17:40:38 | rasher | jonah1980: ctrl+c |
17:40:55 | markun | jonah1980: first time you used linux? |
17:41:00 | jonah1980 | is scandisk on windows faster, maybe i could goto a friends house and do it |
17:41:16 | rasher | Probably not |
17:41:22 | evilnick | rasher: thanks, been looking there and its pretty difficult to understand for someone who isn't a coder. I don't think that what I have in mind is possible anyway, so far... |
17:41:43 | jonah1980 | thanks for your help, i gotta run. appreciate it |
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18:03:20 | Lynx_ | hmm, i accidentally unplugged USB of my h140 while copying, now I have *panic* mount: 0 |
18:03:28 | Lynx_ | is that a bug, or supposed to happen? |
18:11:59 | Kittt0s | if panic=0 then u shouldn't get in panic :] |
18:13:50 | Lynx_ | heh |
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18:29:21 | PaulPosition | This is NOT a request, but an inquiring mind wants to know : Could the vcard/contact patch eventually end up in cvs or is it a big No for being too 'PDA'-like? (I wanna (try to) adapt it to my H10, but I wonder wether long forgotten patches should be just that : forgotten and not changed/reuploaded).. |
18:29:50 | rasher | Is it a plugin? |
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18:30:28 | PaulPosition | it is, yeah (sry..) |
18:30:37 | PaulPosition | should have mentioned it. |
18:31:10 | rasher | Well, in that case there are few things that are "big no"s |
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18:33:36 | PaulPosition | Yeah, makes sense. Pretty academic anyway, since I haven't actually built anything yet. Guess I'll wonder about spamming the tracker when I actually got something done. :p |
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19:00:25 | amiconn | PaulPosition: Most often plugins don't get included because they're limited to one or few targets without reason |
19:01:04 | amiconn | I don't think vcards/contacts are cpu intensive, so such a plugin should be all-platform |
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19:03:13 | jhMikeS | amiconn: any reason you can think of that a battery bench should end at around 3.65V? I'm kind of stumped as to why mine are and it's clearly not near the battery end. It should be able to run to 3.3V (disabling the auto poweroff) with the pcf setup out of the boot ROM (did a reg dump). |
19:03:58 | amiconn | battery_bench only saves on spinup, and the last spinup might be unsuccessful |
19:05:14 | PaulPosition | amiconn - Thanks, I'll have a look anyway, soon as I choose wether to install knoppix to disk or go with the cygwin/vmware route.. As I don't fancy ending up in any sort of credits, I'll probably just adapt to my target and let someone else consider really working on it. If not, no big loss anyway, it's just a silly plugin. |
19:05:43 | PaulPosition | Doesn't bench also saves once every hour? |
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19:05:56 | sniper6_2004 | hey umm how do i uninstall rockbox? |
19:05:58 | jhMikeS | The unit powered itself off. Can't imagine why it should fail with what I believe to be sufficient voltage. Another's X5L ran clear to 3.3V. |
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19:07:59 | amiconn | jhMikeS: If you run multiple benchmarks, you will see the end voltage jumping around significantly |
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19:08:23 | jhMikeS | No...ran two and they both end at about the same |
19:08:37 | amiconn | 3.65V is clearly sufficient, but at the time of the next rebuffer it probably dropped enough to make the disk spinup fail |
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19:09:07 | sniper6_2004 | umm i have a question for anyone who uses rockbox on an ipod |
19:09:15 | jhMikeS | Will the bench shut off the unit in that case? |
19:09:28 | Steve132 | I use rockbox on an ipod photo |
19:09:33 | amiconn | No, but the new shutdown logic probably will |
19:09:52 | jhMikeS | Bypassed it or so I thought. |
19:09:57 | sniper6_2004 | ok well i want to uninstall because rockbox doesnt let me play videos on my video ipod |
19:10:14 | sniper6_2004 | and it's pretty annoying |
19:10:15 | jhMikeS | Set the critical point to 0 |
19:10:21 | Steve132 | don't you have both firmwares on? |
19:10:42 | sniper6_2004 | i dont know i dont remember if i left it in or deleted it thats why im afraid of bricking it |
19:11:03 | sniper6_2004 | though im almost sure i left it in |
19:11:18 | Steve132 | can't you boot to something other than rockbox on boot? |
19:11:39 | newnick | if i was interested in exploring a new port, i would probably need to look into embedded programming basics if i'm not familiar w/ it already, right? |
19:12:18 | Steve132 | like... |
19:12:19 | Steve132 | ok |
19:12:21 | Steve132 | try this |
19:12:25 | PaulPosition | sniper6 - You should have been able to dualboot to apple's firmware when you want to look at vidz... |
19:12:25 | sniper6_2004 | i left the ipod control folder in |
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19:12:33 | amiconn | sniper6_2004: It's almost impossible to brick an ipod |
19:13:05 | Steve132 | yeah |
19:13:17 | amiconn | The worst thing that can happen is that you need to restore with apple's ipod updater, which will wipe the hd contents |
19:13:18 | Steve132 | you can almost always restore the original using the apple tools |
19:13:18 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
19:13:23 | Steve132 | but |
19:13:32 | Steve132 | do you have your ipod right now? |
19:13:32 | sniper6_2004 | oh yeah i sould just use the apple updater |
19:13:39 | Steve132 | no...don't do that yet |
19:13:44 | sniper6_2004 | yep |
19:13:47 | sniper6_2004 | its connected |
19:13:51 | Steve132 | ok..d/c it |
19:13:56 | jde | anyone? |
19:14:18 | sniper6_2004 | d/c? |
19:14:24 | sniper6_2004 | disconnect |
19:14:27 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
19:14:38 | sniper6_2004 | its booting up |
19:14:41 | Steve132 | ok |
19:14:43 | sniper6_2004 | booted |
19:14:45 | Steve132 | ok |
19:14:53 | sniper6_2004 | what now? |
19:16:01 | Steve132 | 1 sec |
19:16:34 | Steve132 | ok |
19:16:46 | Steve132 | hold play/pause |
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19:16:51 | Steve132 | not yet |
19:16:55 | Steve132 | not yet tho |
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19:17:09 | Steve132 | hold play/pause for 4 seconds and it should shut down |
19:17:15 | Steve132 | then, as it turns back on |
19:17:21 | Steve132 | press and hold menu |
19:17:27 | Steve132 | and keep holding it |
19:17:52 | Steve132 | until the message "Loading original firmware" comes on your screen |
19:17:57 | sniper6_2004 | its on |
19:17:58 | sniper6_2004 | wuw |
19:18:01 | sniper6_2004 | sweet@ |
19:18:02 | sniper6_2004 | ! |
19:18:06 | Steve132 | there ya go |
19:18:20 | sniper6_2004 | thx! |
19:18:31 | Steve132 | to boot back into rockbox |
19:18:44 | Steve132 | press and hold menu and the select button at the same time |
19:18:49 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
19:18:51 | Steve132 | this will cause your ipod to shutdown again |
19:18:56 | sniper6_2004 | and reset |
19:19:00 | Steve132 | yep |
19:19:03 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
19:19:05 | Steve132 | actuall |
19:19:07 | sniper6_2004 | sweet! |
19:19:15 | sniper6_2004 | yay now i dont have to kill it |
19:19:30 | sniper6_2004 | ok |
19:19:32 | sniper6_2004 | thanks |
19:20:09 | Steve132 | now that you know how to do that...take a look at this: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Loader_2 |
19:20:13 | Steve132 | thats what I use |
19:20:34 | Steve132 | it is installable by going to http://www.ipodlinux.org/Installer_2 |
19:21:09 | Steve132 | when your ipod turns on it goes into a graphical boot menu similar to grub and actually lets me choose: Apple firmware, IPL, Rockbox, Disk Mode, or Sleep |
19:22:59 | jhMikeS | hmmm...guess I'm gonna have to remove any automatic shutdown and try again |
19:23:21 | Steve132 | Ok...I have a question for anyone out there: Actually two...1st is this: Is the api->mp3_play_data() function multithreaded? Like does it start playback then return or does it block until all the data has been played? |
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19:23:34 | PaulPosition | jhmikes - if it doesn't have enough energy to spin the disk, it will be no help dude. |
19:25:12 | jhMikeS | true but it should spin. The curve shows no signs of dying and that's based on unfiltered battery voltage. 3.65V should be way more than enough. |
19:25:14 | Steve132 | secondly....where can I learn how to make a plugin start from clicking a file in the filemanager...sort of like the mpegplayer does? |
19:25:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | Steve132: For the second one, you just add the plugin (and associated extension) to viewers.config in the .rockbox folder. |
19:25:52 | jhMikeS | I'd better double check the unfiltered bit. |
19:25:58 | Steve132 | sweet...thanks |
19:25:59 | Steve132 | :) |
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19:27:53 | jhMikeS | guess it is filtered :P. If it spikes below 3.3V the pcf will power it off. should use the debounce feature. |
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19:29:39 | My_Sic | hi all |
19:29:43 | My_Sic | i need some help |
19:29:47 | My_Sic | i have a problem |
19:29:59 | My_Sic | i don"t understand |
19:30:04 | My_Sic | i compil my own rockbox |
19:30:08 | My_Sic | wwith some patch |
19:30:12 | My_Sic | it was working |
19:30:33 | My_Sic | but until i have update the source with the last cvs |
19:30:43 | My_Sic | i have codec faillure on my mp3 player |
19:31:05 | My_Sic | but i haven't modify the codec source |
19:31:26 | rasher | Did you update the rockbox.something file as well as the entire .rockbox direcotory? |
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19:32:17 | My_Sic | all the directory |
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19:37:24 | jhMikeS | suppose next I should do the smart thing and try powering up the device immediately. can't rule that out but I can't rule a lot out atm. |
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19:41:50 | jhMikeS | amiconn: was that snippet yesterday of any help to you? |
19:41:59 | amiconn | no |
19:44:57 | amiconn | I don't understand how it works, so I guess I have to come up with something usable myself |
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19:45:22 | amiconn | The bmp loader can be made significantly more compact |
19:46:19 | My_Sic | someone nos about my problem |
19:46:20 | My_Sic | ? |
19:46:32 | My_Sic | someone knows about my problem ? |
19:47:31 | jhMikeS | gimme a little bit |
19:48:12 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Actually I am pondering f-s dithering as well, but that requires one extra line buffer, and read_bmp_file() is already a stack eater |
19:48:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | My_Sic: Did you use "make zip" and then extract the archive to your player? |
19:48:33 | My_Sic | yes |
19:48:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | What player do you have? |
19:49:09 | My_Sic | ipod 60 go 5G |
19:49:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | Okay, in /.rockbox/ is there a rockbox.ipod file? |
19:49:59 | My_Sic | no |
19:50:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | Are you using any patches? |
19:50:40 | My_Sic | yes |
19:50:50 | Paul_the_Nerd | Have you tried an official build with cleared settings? |
19:50:57 | amiconn | Now that I know how f-s dithering works, I wonder why the implementations are often so slow. f-s isn't really very complex |
19:51:02 | My_Sic | Paul_the_Nerd: : http://www.wikimusique.net/patches <<< here my list of files |
19:51:10 | My_Sic | with an official build it's working |
19:51:35 | Paul_the_Nerd | My_Sic: So, try compiling an unpatched build. Then try adding one patch at a time and see which patch causes the problem |
19:51:44 | My_Sic | ok |
19:51:46 | lostlogic | Paul_the_Nerd: I'm lolling, but I won't lol at him directly. |
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19:51:53 | lostlogic | gah, except that I'm retarded |
19:51:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | :) |
19:52:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | Curse of the internet |
19:52:14 | lostlogic | My_Sic: sorry, if you're using a patched build... I kinda think you're on your own :) |
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19:53:26 | My_Sic | Paul_the_Nerd: : how to clean all source with the cvs ? |
19:53:28 | jhMikeS | fs dithering is horrible on large differences in depth without some other perturbation in the filter. |
19:53:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | My_Sic: I don't know the best way. |
19:54:00 | My_Sic | ok |
19:54:14 | lostlogic | My_Sic: probably easiest to just download the source tarball from the cvs builds page |
19:54:25 | My_Sic | ok |
19:55:01 | lostlogic | assuming that the FILES files have all been updated properly :\? |
19:55:15 | My_Sic | it's can take several hours to identify which patch cause fail |
19:56:04 | lostlogic | My_Sic: you only have 5 patches, should be pretty straight forward? |
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19:56:20 | lostlogic | My_Sic: and you can probably eliminate the blackjack plugin patch |
19:56:24 | realm | hi everyone |
19:56:37 | realm | does anyone have any themes they are willing to share? |
19:56:49 | My_Sic | yes but it's take more than 10 min to compil my rockbox due to an very odl pc |
19:56:54 | realm | i just installed rockbox and would like to add a theme |
19:57:17 | lostlogic | My_Sic: you shouldn't need to do a clean build each time. |
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19:57:24 | realm | if it's too much of a hassle dont worry about it, thanks anyways |
19:57:36 | My_Sic_[fr] | yes i know but i have a very very very old pc |
19:57:38 | Paul_the_Nerd | realm: See the WPS Gallery in the wiki |
19:57:47 | realm | ok, thanks |
19:57:49 | lostlogic | My_Sic_[fr]: I see :( |
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20:04:47 | lowlight | would anyone object if we no longer compile the dumb lib? |
20:04:55 | lowlight | it's not used for any of the codecs |
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20:06:47 | lowlight | preglow: you still following this forum topic...http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7229.0 |
20:07:20 | lowlight | guy says 48kHz aac's play to slow but when resampled to 44.1 they play fine. |
20:07:45 | lostlogic | lowlight: did you have a metadata on buffer patch at some point? |
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20:08:17 | spug | just got my new H320 in the mail! |
20:08:39 | My_Sic_[fr] | lucky man you are |
20:08:48 | lowlight | lostlogic: nothing that work. |
20:08:59 | lowlight | -ed |
20:09:14 | bluebrother | can the h120 hardware do 48 kHz recording? |
20:09:18 | lostlogic | lowlight: kk, have any insights that you learned from the process that you'd like to share before I next attempt it? |
20:10:02 | bluebrother | I think to remember the h120 being incapable but I can't find anything to verify that ... |
20:10:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | bluebrother: I'd heard it can handle 20/48 |
20:10:08 | Paul_the_Nerd | I think |
20:10:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | Or was it 16/48 OR 20/44? |
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20:10:55 | realm | where can i find instructions to install a theme? |
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20:11:02 | lowlight | lostlogic: no...I had experimented with it by changing the metadata functions to write directly to the buffer rather than the id3.id3v2buf[] |
20:11:06 | amiconn | bluebrother: The h1x0 and h300 hardware can record at 11, 22 and 44kHz |
20:11:19 | amiconn | Only s/pdif can record at other rates |
20:11:36 | realm | where can i find instructions to install a theme? |
20:11:42 | bluebrother | amiconn, thanks. |
20:12:54 | My_Sic_[fr] | realm it's easy : just unzip in your .rockbox directory |
20:13:06 | realm | oh ok |
20:13:11 | realm | onto the ipod right? |
20:13:18 | jhMikeS | amiconn: http://pastebin.ca/248517 |
20:13:23 | My_Sic_[fr] | yes on the .rockbox directory on you ipod |
20:13:35 | My_Sic_[fr] | then you just have to load it in the menu |
20:13:41 | realm | sweet thanks |
20:13:48 | My_Sic_[fr] | you welcom |
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20:15:29 | realm | htye My_Sic what's your favorite theme dude? |
20:15:52 | realm | *hey |
20:15:54 | My_Sic_[fr] | "night theme" because it's don't use battery |
20:16:02 | My_Sic_[fr] | but i have change the color to red |
20:16:09 | My_Sic_[fr] | the color of text |
20:18:31 | realm | i love rockbox already man. this dual boot thing kicks so much ass |
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20:19:03 | realm | how am i supposed to load this on my ipod? |
20:19:07 | realm | i dont see an option for it |
20:19:21 | realm | oh nvm |
20:19:46 | My_Sic_[fr] | i haven"t understand to load a theme or the apple firmware ? |
20:19:54 | My_Sic_[fr] | (sorry i'm french) |
20:20:02 | realm | to load a theme |
20:20:07 | realm | it says "loading" but doesnt do anything |
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20:20:40 | realm | does it need to reboot? |
20:20:44 | My_Sic_[fr] | no |
20:20:53 | My_Sic_[fr] | it isn't normal |
20:20:55 | realm | it just wont load the theme |
20:21:03 | realm | it stays with the black and white one it came with |
20:21:24 | My_Sic_[fr] | what theme do you want to load ? |
20:21:38 | realm | Theme_X_Glow |
20:22:02 | realm | ok im gonna try again |
20:24:15 | realm | ok it works |
20:24:18 | realm | wow this is sweet |
20:24:29 | My_Sic_[fr] | yes some theme are very nice |
20:24:43 | My_Sic_[fr] | what was wrong ? |
20:26:24 | realm | i didnt unload the theme properly |
20:26:31 | My_Sic_[fr] | ok |
20:26:34 | realm | i had to empty each file into each corresponding folder |
20:26:46 | realm | i just unzipped into my ipod lol |
20:26:54 | Nimdae | heh |
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20:29:15 | titusac | moin |
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20:33:19 | PaulPosition | Will the bash script rockboxdev.sh check for my current gcc compiler before downloading and installing another one? anyone knows..? |
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20:35:50 | Nimdae | no |
20:35:56 | Nimdae | it installs a secondary install |
20:36:04 | Nimdae | but i believe it just installs the cross compilers |
20:36:54 | Nimdae | so if you're worried about inadvertantly replacing your system compiler, it doesn't as far as i can see |
20:37:05 | titusac | sry guys but I'm not able to find descramble file to decode my iriver-firmware |
20:37:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | titusac: Why are you trying to manually descramble it? |
20:37:59 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
20:37:59 | * | bluebrother should get some time to look into the tarred themes stuff again ... |
20:38:17 | PaulPosition | nimdae - Actually I was worried about disk space :p But I'll have a try and see, thanks :) |
20:38:23 | bluebrother | titusac, usually fwpatcher is sufficient. Is there any reason you're trying it the hard way? |
20:38:53 | titusac | mhh i'm using linux |
20:38:58 | Nimdae | about ~150 mb of space for all 3 cross compilers |
20:39:10 | * | Paul_the_Nerd wonders if FWPatcher.exe works in ReactOS |
20:39:11 | rasher | descramble is in the tools/ dir of the rockbox source |
20:39:15 | PaulPosition | Ohhh, that's good enough then, thanks for the info. :) |
20:39:18 | bluebrother | titusac, you can run fwpatcher using wine |
20:39:29 | bluebrother | otherwise run "make" in the tools source dir. |
20:39:38 | rasher | can you even do that anymore? |
20:39:47 | rasher | nope |
20:39:57 | rasher | make descramble |
20:40:54 | titusac | bluebrother, i think i will try running make |
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20:41:15 | rasher | You will have to "make descramble" |
20:41:23 | rasher | Make on its own triggers an error |
20:41:34 | rasher | (for reasons I do not understand) |
20:41:55 | Nimdae | well, the wiki explains that you should create a build directory and compile in there |
20:42:07 | Nimdae | probably to keep the binaries separate from everything else |
20:42:10 | bluebrother | rasher, because you should run make from outside the source dir |
20:42:21 | bluebrother | I guess you'll also need scramble ;-) |
20:42:39 | rasher | But don't the tools end up in tools/ anyway? |
20:42:41 | Nimdae | make scramble |
20:42:43 | Nimdae | err |
20:42:55 | bluebrother | yes, but the default target simply drops an error message |
20:42:57 | titusac | sry to viewing the sources was the next entry on my todo list |
20:43:03 | Nimdae | i hate when i type in the wrong window |
20:43:22 | rasher | bluebrother: which is why I don't quite understand - why not let the tools be built that way? |
20:43:28 | rasher | s/why/what/ |
20:44:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | rasher: So that people don't run configure within tools? It's just an extra layer of safety precautions, I think... |
20:44:01 | bluebrother | for the tools this is indeed a question ... |
20:44:03 | spug | does anyone know if H320 no longer ship with remotes? i got two sets of earphones instead of the non-LCD remote |
20:44:16 | rasher | Paul_the_Nerd: I believe that is already checked in the configure script |
20:44:38 | Paul_the_Nerd | rasher: I dunno. |
20:44:41 | rasher | (that you're not running from the same directory as configure is in) |
20:44:52 | rasher | [rasher@gaia tools]$ ./configure |
20:44:52 | rasher | WEEEEEEEEP. Don't run this configure script within the tools directory. |
20:45:16 | Nimdae | WEEEEEEEP? |
20:45:18 | Nimdae | lol |
20:45:20 | Paul_the_Nerd | Hahaha |
20:45:55 | bluebrother | a weeping computer? |
20:45:58 | amiconn | rasher: It's rather obvious why you can't just run 'make' in tools |
20:46:11 | rasher | Why then? |
20:46:12 | amiconn | The required tools differ by target |
20:46:30 | rasher | But "make" in tools could simply build everything |
20:47:08 | amiconn | ...so you never have to build all of them unless you compile for the majority of targets |
20:47:15 | amiconn | perhaps |
20:47:26 | rasher | (this is what was done previously) |
20:47:42 | rasher | I don't really understand the reasoning behind this |
20:48:03 | rasher | What should Nimdae do? If he has no desire to build Rockbox, but simply needs the tools |
20:48:21 | rasher | I guess it's "make scramble descramble etc" |
20:48:25 | jhMikeS | amiconn: hope that pastebin helps. could barely read my crummy code from years ago myself :P |
20:48:43 | Nimdae | well |
20:48:52 | Nimdae | at the very least it should provide the available make targets |
20:48:54 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I hope so. Would be nice to have a 16x16 matrix as well though (for dithering to mono) |
20:49:31 | amiconn | I also wonder about the differences between the standard ordered matrix and the magic square matrix |
20:49:49 | amiconn | Some articles say that magic square give less diagonal stripes |
20:49:49 | jhMikeS | that's just the matrix I pasted yesterday |
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20:50:20 | amiconn | Ah, so the 16x16 matrix would be the raw matrix from that code? |
20:51:03 | jhMikeS | yes |
20:51:13 | amiconn | k |
20:51:23 | jhMikeS | really, we could just store that one and rescale it to whatever is needed atm |
20:55:16 | titusac | anyone an idea which filesystem is used by roxbox? |
20:55:26 | rasher | Fat32 |
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20:55:44 | titusac | wunderfull thnx |
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20:56:50 | Nimdae | interesting... |
20:57:12 | Nimdae | i built the ipod video target on 2 different boxes and one had a ton of warnings |
20:57:42 | Nimdae | the other did not |
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20:58:44 | Kasperle | different gcc versions? |
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21:00:18 | Nimdae | one is using ccache, the other is not, the one using ccache had the warnings |
21:00:34 | Nimdae | disabled ccache and warnings gone |
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21:02:23 | titusac | wow it's been working |
21:02:28 | titusac | i never expect this |
21:02:41 | titusac | + have |
21:02:46 | Nimdae | ? |
21:03:14 | titusac | i installed rockbox the first time :) |
21:03:29 | Nimdae | ah |
21:03:39 | Kittt0s | then you should get a lolypop! |
21:04:16 | markun | titusac: congratulations! Which player? |
21:04:25 | titusac | ihp_140 |
21:04:36 | titusac | thank you |
21:04:49 | markun | nice players (mine is only a H120) |
21:04:55 | Nimdae | i was surprised how easy it is to install |
21:05:06 | titusac | me too |
21:05:33 | Nimdae | hah, my linuxb ox here at home takes 6min30sec to compile rockbox for ipod video, linux box at work 1min43sec |
21:05:37 | titusac | wow much faste than the old firmware |
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21:06:22 | markun | titusac: somewhere in the menu you can enable dircache. It makes browsing a lot faster. |
21:06:40 | markun | Or is it enabled by default now? |
21:06:55 | Nimdae | i thought i read somewhere that it wasn't recommended to enable it |
21:07:02 | Nimdae | i could be wrong ;) |
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21:07:17 | rasher | markun: not yet I believe |
21:07:22 | tomal | Does anyone know why some codecs store codec_api pointer in two variables: ci and rb? |
21:07:36 | markun | Nimdae: I've used it for many months now |
21:08:20 | Nimdae | i haven't really messed with it so i can't say anything about it, heh |
21:08:35 | rasher | I'm working on convincing everyone that dircache should be on by default |
21:08:44 | * | markun is all for it |
21:08:55 | markun | only on targets with enough RAM of course |
21:09:00 | Nimdae | i can't find the setting now :( |
21:09:05 | rasher | tomal: Might just be a convenience thing, from when the codecs were regular plugins |
21:09:16 | rasher | markun: Yeah, I think it should be default when MEM > 8mb |
21:09:29 | preglow | tomal: just old code, mainly |
21:09:50 | preglow | yes, what rasher said |
21:10:45 | Nimdae | ah, found it |
21:11:34 | Nimdae | it'd be nice if scrolling with the clickwheel was faster :( |
21:11:35 | markun | Nimdae: you will have to reboot |
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21:12:05 | Nimdae | i already did |
21:12:12 | Nimdae | scrolling with the clickwheel is just slow in general |
21:12:33 | Nimdae | it appears to be tied to cpu speed |
21:12:43 | Nimdae | because it scrolls a lot faster when the cpu kicks up to 75mhz |
21:13:19 | Nimdae | or at least when it's buffering, causing high disk activity |
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21:13:39 | Nimdae | maybe it's yielding a lot mroe during that time |
21:14:38 | Nimdae | nope, it's not just when it's buffering from disk |
21:14:52 | titusac | mhh the radio doesn't work |
21:15:58 | markun | titusac: you don't get any sound? |
21:16:17 | titusac | i don't |
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21:17:19 | tomal | I want to save memory by putting codec's bss and iramcopy in the same place. The codec would copy iram and clear bss at initialization. |
21:17:50 | tomal | It will work unless codec is initialized (run from the very beginning) more than once after it's loaded. |
21:18:25 | tomal | I don't think it may happen, but I may be wrong. Anyone knows? |
21:20:36 | titusac | is there an operation system on rockbox |
21:21:21 | rasher | Rockbox is an operating system. |
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21:22:52 | realm | how do i access the file browser? |
21:22:56 | realm | im using an ipod |
21:22:57 | bluebrother | I'd rather call it a firmware ... |
21:22:59 | realm | x5 |
21:23:16 | bluebrother | realm, you are in the file browser as default view (as long as you didn't change that) |
21:23:27 | realm | i dont see that |
21:23:35 | realm | and i didnt change it |
21:23:40 | realm | i just finished installing the firmware |
21:23:41 | bluebrother | describe "don't see" a bit more ... |
21:23:51 | realm | what i see on my main screen when i boot is: |
21:23:57 | realm | Calenders |
21:23:58 | realm | contacsts |
21:24:00 | realm | music |
21:24:01 | realm | notes |
21:24:04 | bluebrother | you start up in the file browser. Per default only supported files get shown. |
21:24:12 | realm | photos |
21:24:17 | realm | rockbox |
21:24:24 | bluebrother | i.e. iPod_Control (the main itunes folder) doesn't get shown as it is hidden. |
21:24:26 | realm | thats what my menu looks like when i boot |
21:24:51 | rasher | realm: that's the contents of your ipod's harddisk |
21:24:53 | bluebrother | that's not a menu. It's the browser. Change the view to "all" and you'll see the ipod folders |
21:25:14 | bluebrother | rasher, sure? "contacts" in the context menu? |
21:25:37 | realm | im not sure what it is, this is what i see after i finish installing the firmware |
21:25:46 | realm | and 100% im in rockbox not in the ipod |
21:25:48 | rasher | bluebrother: I don't understand |
21:25:53 | realm | im using a theme and everything |
21:26:05 | realm | i just dont see how to access the file browser |
21:26:36 | bluebrother | rasher, sorry. Mixed up "contents" and "context". |
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21:27:35 | realm | im so confused lol |
21:27:39 | realm | is this not what everyone sees after finishing the installation? |
21:27:57 | bluebrother | it is. |
21:28:04 | realm | its similar to the main menu of the apple firmware but much smaller and with a file looking icon next to it |
21:28:22 | realm | so how do i access the file browser? |
21:28:28 | rasher | You are in the file browser |
21:28:31 | rasher | this is the file browser |
21:28:50 | bluebrother | realm, I suggest you to read this: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-230003.1.3 |
21:28:50 | rasher | Those are directories and files on your ipod |
21:28:53 | realm | i dont see a way to look through the files on my ipod though |
21:29:05 | realm | they dont look like directories or files |
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21:29:15 | realm | they look like a menu |
21:29:19 | bluebrother | how does a directory "look"? |
21:29:33 | realm | its almost exactly like the apple firmware meny |
21:29:37 | realm | but smaller |
21:29:40 | realm | *menu |
21:29:57 | bluebrother | yeah, the default font is pretty small on devices with bigger resolution. |
21:30:11 | bluebrother | I suggest using iCatcher as theme as a start. |
21:30:30 | PaulPosition | indeed... Don't forget that folders are like a tree, branching out to subfolders and files. Without a fancy Aqua look with icons, folders could look just like what you're seeing y'know. |
21:30:43 | rasher | realm: Your music files are in a folder called "Ipod_Control", which is hidden by default |
21:30:51 | realm | ok then lets say they are folders dude |
21:31:00 | rasher | They are. Trust us. |
21:31:02 | realm | my question is why cant i look at the folders that are on my ipod? |
21:31:08 | rasher | You are looking at them. |
21:31:18 | realm | can i access the music from the apple firmware? |
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21:31:31 | rasher | realm: Those are in the (hidden) Ipod_control foler |
21:31:32 | rasher | folder |
21:31:38 | rasher | With stupid names |
21:31:40 | markun | preglow: would be nice to record radio and play it back through the DSP.. |
21:31:44 | PaulPosition | You sure will be able to, but you'll need to unhide the folder. I don't know macOS enough to help with that though. |
21:31:45 | realm | is there a way to see them? |
21:31:49 | SoulDeaD | realm you can but the original firmware puts all files in one directory and obfuscates their names |
21:32:07 | rasher | realm: go into the meny, and enter "General settings > file browser > show files > all" |
21:32:08 | realm | im on windows not on macOS |
21:32:12 | bluebrother | realm, read this short section: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodcolor/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-160002.4 |
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21:32:17 | realm | ok |
21:32:18 | realm | i did read it blue |
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21:32:43 | PaulPosition | oh sorry, realm. thought you were on a mac. |
21:32:44 | preglow | markun: yeah, i believe that is on someone's agenda too :> |
21:32:57 | realm | yo rasher i dont have "file browser" only "file view" |
21:33:08 | preglow | Ãpower consumption of the radio would go up drastically, thiugh |
21:33:20 | markun | preglow: I never use radio, but I really missed crossfeed when I tried it just now |
21:33:30 | realm | oh ok that worked nevermind rasher |
21:34:18 | realm | shit i see what you're saying now....i dont see the file names of my music |
21:34:42 | bluebrother | realm, read the section on tagcache |
21:34:50 | realm | k |
21:34:50 | preglow | markun: by no means impossible anyway, perhaps it'll happen now that we've got a proper recording interface |
21:35:05 | realm | is that the link u last sent? |
21:35:07 | preglow | which reminds me i should code that effects plugin to see if it works |
21:35:37 | bluebrother | yes, and the previous also mentioned it. |
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21:36:13 | bluebrother | or just download the pdf manual and look into the "browsing and playing" chapter. |
21:36:30 | Jriffle | anyone interested in buying my MEGF40 40 beater ? |
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21:36:46 | realm | oh ok |
21:36:49 | titusac | i cant decide wich theme i want |
21:37:31 | bluebrother | titusac, what means "can't decide"? Does something not work or is it simply you being indifferent? |
21:37:46 | bluebrother | if it "doesn't work" make sure to install the fonts package |
21:38:07 | titusac | oh sry i make a fault |
21:40:32 | realm | ok i just read about the tag cache bluebrother |
21:40:33 | realm | im initialising it now |
21:40:42 | realm | will that allow me to see files by tag? |
21:40:46 | rasher | Yes |
21:41:06 | realm | all the files that are affected by the apple firmware as well? |
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21:42:43 | realm | ok its working now but i can only view the name of the song when i select it to be played, not when im browsing |
21:42:43 | realm | is this correct? |
21:43:00 | realm | or does it require a reboot? |
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21:45:08 | realm | sorry if im bothering you guys :\ i really am reading this stuff before im asking questions |
21:45:41 | realm | i rebooted and it commited the tag cache but when i browse i still dont see the filenmes |
21:46:22 | bluebrother | realm, tagcache doesn't show filenames, it shows the files' tags instead |
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21:46:46 | bluebrother | I believe it's the same way the apple firmware allows browsing. |
21:46:52 | realm | sweet!!!! |
21:46:55 | realm | i got it to work |
21:47:07 | realm | its browsing by id3 |
21:47:17 | realm | i just didnt set it in file view yet |
21:47:20 | realm | wow i love this program....rockbox...rocks! lol |
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21:48:32 | realm | ok im done bugging you guys lol |
21:48:37 | realm | im extremely happy now |
21:48:39 | bluebrother | try to take the time reading through the manual. It explains quite a lot (even if it's incomplete) |
21:48:53 | realm | yea i downloaded it so i have a copy |
21:49:03 | realm | is there a way to put the manual on your ipod? |
21:49:09 | realm | or is it not able to read PDF's? |
21:49:24 | bluebrother | you can put it on but currently there is no way displaying pdf's |
21:49:39 | bluebrother | you can build yourself a txt version and read that on the device. |
21:49:46 | jhMikeS | amiconn: there? steered you wrong on the raw matrix for mono. each value should be div 2 for mono. just use: raw_mtx_element >> target_depth for any depth at all. |
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21:49:57 | rasher | bluebrother: on that subject, is there any way to make the filenames more meaningful? |
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21:50:18 | bluebrother | filenames of the manual? |
21:50:21 | rasher | Yeah |
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21:51:54 | bluebrother | we could trick it a bit to get something like manual-ch1.html |
21:52:52 | bluebrother | I agree that rockbox-build.html is a bit ... strange. |
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21:54:00 | bluebrother | but renaming would break quite a couple of links ... of course this could get handled by mod_rewrite. |
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21:59:22 | * | petur wonders why the latest commit includes a 'goto' statement? |
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22:05:26 | lostlogic | gotos are sometimes the correct way to handle things |
22:05:50 | lostlogic | and almost definitely so in this case |
22:06:03 | rasher | fwpatcher has a bunch |
22:06:20 | rasher | I felt like I had landed in the 60s |
22:06:35 | rasher | But it's not terribly confusing or horrible, really |
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22:12:57 | lostlogic | there are definitely times when I curse java's lack of goto, or at least break-to-label. |
22:13:45 | petur | sorry, never used it since gwbasic |
22:13:57 | petur | never needed it, too |
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22:17:06 | Mmmm | with a goto is code skipped inbetween? |
22:17:18 | petur | like a jump |
22:17:27 | Mmmm | yeah...ahh... |
22:17:45 | Mmmm | it never goes back? |
22:17:51 | petur | I call it the lazy programmers statement |
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22:18:27 | petur | I have already done projects wher break and continue were banned |
22:18:36 | Bagder | gosh |
22:18:42 | petur | yup |
22:18:49 | Bagder | people come up with the weirdest rules |
22:19:00 | petur | pharmacy industry |
22:19:01 | rasher | break and continue |
22:19:02 | rasher | Jesus |
22:19:09 | rasher | I can see banning goto.. |
22:19:32 | ze | er, doesn't that implicitly ban switch statements? |
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22:19:52 | petur | lol, no it was allowed in switch statements |
22:19:58 | petur | *only* there |
22:20:06 | ze | ah |
22:20:12 | Bagder | they should've banned statements in general ;-) |
22:20:16 | ze | :p |
22:20:17 | Bagder | simpler code |
22:20:19 | Bagder | ;-) |
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22:20:38 | pixelma | anyone who's interested in the new usb logos I made... http://home.infocity.de/m.arnold/temp/usblogos.png comments are welcome. I'm especially interested in opinions of Archos users - to know if they also want a new one :) |
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22:20:45 | Bagder | I did several projects where including from include files was banned |
22:20:53 | petur | I later had to review some code of them and found a 5000 line constructor of a class... |
22:20:58 | Bagder | pretty annoying |
22:21:03 | Bagder | haha |
22:21:22 | petur | had much fun writing the review ;) |
22:22:11 | petur | they run inspection systems at some very big companies so better check up on those pills before taking them ;) |
22:22:29 | realm | i just have to say again....i love rockbox this thing kicks so much ass |
22:22:51 | realm | whoever wrote this program is awsome |
22:23:04 | realm | do they take donations? |
22:23:10 | petur | yes |
22:23:11 | rasher | Certainly |
22:23:14 | rasher | www.rockbox.org |
22:23:17 | realm | im gonna have to donate some cash |
22:23:19 | petur | paypal |
22:23:20 | realm | cool |
22:23:58 | preglow | pixelma: i think they look nice |
22:24:13 | preglow | definitely better than what we have |
22:24:20 | petur | indeed |
22:24:29 | * | petur drops of his chair |
22:24:30 | rasher | Agree. |
22:24:40 | realm | most people are probably using this for the ipod x5 right? |
22:24:48 | petur | nah |
22:24:50 | Genre9mp3 | pixelma: Very nice work! :) you certainly get my vote... I think we should change Archos, too.. it's better than the old one and we have to keep it consistent |
22:25:00 | preglow | realm: there really isn't a "most people", all kinds of people using all kinds of players drop in |
22:25:15 | realm | oh alright |
22:25:17 | preglow | and i donÃ't get a feeling ipod people are what we get the most of anyway |
22:25:38 | petur | maybe most questions, not most users ;) |
22:25:50 | realm | hey guys can u tell me what your favorite theme for ipod x5 is? |
22:26:01 | realm | im looking through some themes right now |
22:26:02 | rasher | I think 5G is what you mean |
22:26:12 | realm | oh ok |
22:26:47 | realm | whats your favorite themes guys? |
22:27:38 | preglow | don't use any |
22:27:47 | preglow | i remember using something called "tango" something on the nano, though |
22:27:49 | preglow | which looked nice |
22:29:24 | preglow | pixelma: i don't really know how the archos usb graphics look, but i don't it looks any better. commit! ;) |
22:29:31 | preglow | s/don't/doubt |
22:29:33 | preglow | i suck |
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22:30:28 | bluebrother | pixelma, great logos |
22:30:35 | rasher | I would imagine it looks like it does on all targets now? |
22:30:44 | realm | hey guys what do i do with the .psd file in the theme folders for ipod g5? |
22:30:49 | preglow | rasher: yeah, now that you say it, so would i |
22:30:54 | realm | its not setup like the last theme i installed |
22:31:07 | preglow | psd? |
22:31:10 | preglow | isn't that a photoshop file? |
22:31:12 | realm | yea its for the theme |
22:31:14 | realm | turntable2 |
22:31:24 | rasher | That's not used for the theme |
22:31:32 | realm | no .psp is a photoshop file i believe |
22:31:33 | petur | realm: the psd is probably the source of the gfx, don't put it on your ipod |
22:31:33 | realm | its not? |
22:31:34 | rasher | it's just there becausse the author felt like providing it |
22:31:38 | realm | ok |
22:31:45 | rasher | psp is paint shop pro. psd is photoshop |
22:31:47 | realm | thanks |
22:31:54 | realm | ohhh ok |
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22:32:49 | pixelma | rasher: yes it does but it does look a bit different on its screen as it has non-square pixels (that's why it looks strectched in the preview) |
22:33:18 | pixelma | the new usb logo I mean.. |
22:33:18 | rasher | Ah, didn't think of that |
22:33:46 | petur | hmmm... transparency :) |
22:33:56 | My_Sic | i don't understand i have apply my patch one by one all woring |
22:34:12 | My_Sic | and the rockbox compiled by me working on my ipod |
22:34:29 | My_Sic | i haven't now "faillure codec" |
22:36:15 | petur | you need to copy everything, not just the rockbox.ipod file |
22:36:22 | petur | -> make zip |
22:36:32 | petur | and unzip that |
22:37:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | petur: He was having that error before. I *think* he's saying he doesn't now. |
22:37:55 | petur | ok |
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22:42:10 | My_Sic | i have done all (before and now), i don't know why the rockbox fail |
22:42:36 | My_Sic | it isn't due to any unzip or copy problem |
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22:48:55 | PaulPosition | tagcache_1.tcd, tagcache_1.tcd ... tagcache_8.tcd Should I delete the 'extra' databases? |
22:49:19 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Thanks. |
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22:56:31 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, regarding your idea of using a 32 bit framebuffer and dma for the lcd update: one major drawback would be that all native bitmaps would be twice as large |
22:57:06 | amiconn | (rockbox logo, usb logo, maybe icons one day...) |
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22:58:35 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I know cause I had to add a new format to bmp2rb :) |
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23:00:30 | jhMikeS | That's why "slow bitmaps" that need color conversion to be drawn could be used instead for ones that are rarely used. that's pretty small code to do really. |
23:02:29 | amiconn | Wouldn't really save much space |
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23:11:58 | jhMikeS | using 18bits packed instead of 32? Would save almost 44% at the limiting case...good for the logos since they're large. |
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23:46:24 | amiconn | 18 bits? That'll be a nightmare to convert... |
23:46:35 | amiconn | I thhoguh you meant 24 bits |
23:46:41 | amiconn | *thought |
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