| 00:06:33 | | Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) |
| 00:07:18 | | Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 00:08:29 | | Quit netmasta10bt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 00:18:14 | | Quit Blackfish ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 00:19:00 | | Join vx [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 00:24:38 | | Quit NickDe ("Leaving") |
| 00:25:32 | | Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 00:35:35 | | Quit ender` (" The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poly', meaning 'many', and the word 'ticks', meaning 'blood sucking parasites'.") |
| 00:41:44 | | Quit jhMikeS (Nick collision from services.) |
| 00:41:50 | | Join jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) |
| 00:59:39 | | Quit spiorf ("Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)") |
| 01:00 |
| 01:01:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:03:39 | | Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") |
| 01:10:39 | | Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") |
| 01:12:10 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
| 01:16:47 | | Quit Soap ("Leaving") |
| 01:24:04 | | Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@ip68-14-79-70.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 01:29:42 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 01:31:44 | | Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) |
| 01:31:59 | | Join Sinbios [0] (i=Sinbios@dsl-10-130-63.b2b2c.ca) |
| 01:39:08 | | Nick Caliban__ is now known as Caliban (n=ianmacd@kwark.caliban.org) |
| 01:40:59 | | Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) |
| 01:46:45 | | Quit Febs ("CGI:IRC") |
| 01:47:15 | | Quit My_Sic ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 01:51:32 | | Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) |
| 01:53:07 | | Quit Bjoern-Erik ("leaving") |
| 01:57:16 | vx | what's my m* f* name ? |
| 01:57:21 | vx | ah, vx |
| 01:57:27 | vx | lol |
| 02:00 |
| 02:03:00 | | Join netmasta10bt [0] (n=torment@pool-71-251-91-239.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:03:03 | | Quit vx ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 02:10:00 | | Quit antil33t ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 02:10:42 | | Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) |
| 02:11:28 | | Join mosh [0] (n=d@adsl-69-109-219-204.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 02:11:47 | mosh | where can i find any info on rb for ipod 5.5 |
| 02:11:58 | rasher | The forums under new ports |
| 02:14:01 | | Join ardinassac [0] (i=7c940231@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 02:14:41 | ardinassac | hello |
| 02:20:01 | | Quit ardinassac ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 02:27:03 | | Quit GolerGkA (Remote closed the connection) |
| 02:29:03 | | Quit Wett (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 02:29:24 | | Join wehn_ [0] (n=wehn@ppp98-163.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net) |
| 02:33:23 | | Quit SLuG (Nick collision from services.) |
| 02:34:06 | | Join slugmuffin [0] (n=Ryan@cpe-72-225-46-34.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 02:41:45 | | Quit matsl_ (Remote closed the connection) |
| 02:52:08 | | Join vx [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 02:53:21 | vx | i just noticed "rockbox-cvs Archives" link is not working. http://cool.haxx.se/pipermail/rockbox-cvs/ |
| 02:53:44 | vx | is there an other working link ? |
| 02:53:54 | scorche | http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html ? |
| 02:54:16 | vx | perfect. thanks ! |
| 02:58:37 | | Part Sinbios |
| 03:00 |
| 03:01:07 | | Quit funky ("leaving") |
| 03:01:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 03:10:16 | scorche | If anyone was planning on purchasing a Creative Zen Vision:M for porting: http://www.woot.com/ about 60 USD off other online prices |
| 03:13:50 | | Quit vx ("CGI:IRC") |
| 03:18:34 | | Quit slugmuffin (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 03:19:51 | preglow | k |
| 03:20:07 | scorche | actually, the window is gone |
| 03:20:24 | scorche | it was only for a short time for the "woot-off" |
| 03:21:51 | | Quit My_Sic (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 03:23:10 | | Join Landus [0] (n=Landus@70-100-181-192.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) |
| 03:25:05 | Soap | tease |
| 03:25:16 | scorche | wasnt me! |
| 03:25:49 | scorche | i missed a nice seagate 250 for 50 USD on the wootoff =( |
| 03:27:25 | jhMikeS | hmmm...how'd I get those errors if I did the build myself with none. wtf |
| 03:30:27 | | Part pixelma |
| 03:30:40 | preglow | jhMikeS: nice commit, i've wanted that for a long time |
| 03:32:28 | jhMikeS | Thanks. I'm compiling it here right now without error but I got errors on the build. That's very weird. |
| 03:32:42 | jhMikeS | Just did a clean one |
| 03:36:30 | Landus | Question. |
| 03:36:44 | Landus | I'm using an iRiver h320. |
| 03:37:05 | Landus | Is it worth shelling out the money for one of the 5th gen 80GB iPods if I'm going to put Rockbox on it? |
| 03:37:21 | scorche | well, you currently cant |
| 03:37:32 | | Join Coldtoast [0] (n=chatzill@ppp111-70.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net) |
| 03:37:40 | Landus | No bootloader patch? |
| 03:37:49 | scorche | nope |
| 03:37:54 | Landus | Why not? |
| 03:38:04 | scorche | good question |
| 03:38:23 | Landus | Is there a problem with making something to patch the ROM? |
| 03:38:36 | jhMikeS | man, this doesn't make sense. I can build those targets from scratch without error here. |
| 03:38:42 | scorche | there is a problem with the 80 GB version |
| 03:38:48 | scorche | we do not know what |
| 03:38:49 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 14 minutes and 12 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:38:49 | * | jhMikeS has to think fast |
| 03:39:49 | Coldtoast | darn red builds |
| 03:43:21 | | Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-144-239-244.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 03:43:59 | | Join ivan` [0] (i=ivan@wikipedia/ivan) |
| 03:48:22 | jhMikeS | help! |
| 03:49:06 | Terinjokes | help requested, at your service |
| 03:49:56 | jhMikeS | the red builds. they build fine here after make clean but not on the build server :-\ |
| 03:50:57 | Terinjokes | hrm, building isn't anything i do, i just grab the lastest |
| 03:53:24 | Paul_the_Nerd | jhMikeS: Are you sure you committed all changes? |
| 03:54:47 | jhMikeS | No new files involved. I'm checking that. |
| 03:55:12 | Landus | scorche: If the 80 GB version isn't supported, from what I understand the 5th gen video (40 and 60 GB) are? |
| 03:55:54 | jhMikeS | config.h is there which defines the macro that should add the function to the plugin api and it's complaining about |
| 03:56:39 | | Quit shnee (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 03:56:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | jhMikeS: config.h or plugin.h? I don't see a change to config.h |
| 03:57:02 | Paul_the_Nerd | Oh, wait, I'm blind |
| 03:57:39 | | Quit midgey34 () |
| 03:58:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | I don't see the cause either. =/ |
| 03:58:20 | jhMikeS | though I'm noticing something that should be subtely different but it should affect red |
| 03:58:31 | jhMikeS | shouldn't affect rather |
| 03:58:41 | jhMikeS | yeah, it's like CONFIG_CPU is wrong |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | Either way, there's no good reason it should build for you, but not up there, right? |
| 04:00:28 | * | Paul_the_Nerd goes to cvs update |
| 04:00:30 | jhMikeS | not that I can think of but it's fine here |
| 04:00:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | We'll see if it works or not here. |
| 04:01:01 | jhMikeS | I'll do cvs up as well and see if I get any M's |
| 04:01:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | It'll take a couple for the VM to fire up |
| 04:02:56 | jhMikeS | I got an M on audio.h but expected that one since I changed #ifdef USE_IRAM to #ifdef IRAM_STEAL which it should be...still doesn't explain it though |
| 04:03:22 | | Quit lostnihilist ("Leaving") |
| 04:04:38 | jhMikeS | maybe I should throw the one-liner up there to start a build and see if results are the same |
| 04:04:47 | Paul_the_Nerd | I just built succesfully |
| 04:04:51 | Paul_the_Nerd | successfully |
| 04:04:54 | jhMikeS | yeah, crazy |
| 04:04:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | So, um, maybe |
| 04:08:33 | | Quit blue_lizard (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 04:08:36 | | Join blue_lizard [0] (n=blue_liz@p54987B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:09:21 | jhMikeS | Wish I could see which servers did which builds instead of just the number |
| 04:09:34 | | Join TerrorByte [0] (i=4889bb7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 04:11:46 | jhMikeS | Paul_the_Nerd: Check out the build message. The next build includes parts of my previous commit. LOL wtf's happening here? |
| 04:12:15 | | Part Terinjokes |
| 04:12:22 | TerrorByte | Sup All. |
| 04:12:24 | TerrorByte | Paul. |
| 04:12:26 | Paul_the_Nerd | It looks like something's not quite reliable right now. |
| 04:12:37 | jhMikeS | maybe it'll work now |
| 04:12:47 | Paul_the_Nerd | I bet it will. |
| 04:12:53 | TerrorByte | What will? |
| 04:12:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | The build. |
| 04:15:33 | TerrorByte | Build for what? |
| 04:16:05 | | Quit [sellout] ("Freedom is for outlaws") |
| 04:17:52 | jhMikeS | yup...green again |
| 04:18:04 | TerrorByte | Huh? |
| 04:18:44 | jhMikeS | ze buildz on ze table zer |
| 04:18:55 | Soap | TerrorByte: the auto builds everytime a CVS change is commited are colour coded in a big table based on the results (errors, etc) of the auto builds. |
| 04:18:58 | scorche | TerrorByte: dont worry about it...we were just discussing irregularities during CVS commits |
| 04:20:16 | TerrorByte | Cool, understood. |
| 04:20:36 | Paul_the_Nerd | jhMikeS: I wonder what exactly happened, since it showed your changes to those files on both builds... |
| 04:21:02 | jhMikeS | I dunno. Something for Bagder to worry about :P |
| 04:21:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | Perhaps |
| 04:21:58 | jhMikeS | The changes were committed but the new versions must not have been sent to the servers that made those builds. |
| 04:24:15 | TerrorByte | Hey. |
| 04:24:27 | TerrorByte | Do gameboy games (not color) run at realtime on Rockboy? |
| 04:24:50 | jhMikeS | It's something I'll discuss with him for sure |
| 04:25:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | TerrorByte: It depends on the game and which player you have. The easiest way to know is to try it. |
| 04:26:03 | TerrorByte | Yes well there is no Rockboy on the H10. |
| 04:26:16 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, then the answer for H10 is "no" |
| 04:26:21 | TerrorByte | That's kind of why my request is there. |
| 04:26:24 | TerrorByte | Oh, thanks Paul. |
| 04:26:41 | TerrorByte | I kind of meant other players. |
| 04:26:51 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, I gave you the answer for other players |
| 04:26:53 | TerrorByte | Like the H100 and similar stuff. |
| 04:27:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | It varies dramatically |
| 04:27:07 | TerrorByte | Do ANY run at realtime. |
| 04:27:10 | TerrorByte | GB games, not GBC. |
| 04:27:12 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yes. |
| 04:27:35 | TerrorByte | And do any GBC games run at realtime? |
| 04:27:41 | Paul_the_Nerd | Dunno. |
| 04:27:49 | TerrorByte | ... |
| 04:27:53 | Paul_the_Nerd | People seem to feel the pokemon games run fast enough, but I don't know if it's realtime. |
| 04:28:11 | | Quit TerrorByte ("CGI:IRC") |
| 04:28:35 | Soap | GBC games don't run realtime on my 450 MHz AMD. I'll be pissed if they do on my ipod. ;) |
| 04:28:40 | | Join TerrorByte [0] (i=4889bb7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net/session) |
| 04:29:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | Soap: I understand with frameskipping some of them are reasonably close / playable. |
| 04:29:32 | Soap | I'm sure they are, just joking. |
| 04:29:55 | TerrorByte | Paul, do any GBC games run at realtime? |
| 04:30:11 | Paul_the_Nerd | But since I tend toward the "listening to music" side of music player owners, and since a gameboy color costs all of $8 these days, I don't really care about performance too much. :) |
| 04:30:11 | scorche | you just asked that... |
| 04:30:22 | Paul_the_Nerd | TerrorByte: Not only did you ask it, but I responded, and you responded to my response... |
| 04:30:41 | TerrorByte | Okay, I asked about GB. |
| 04:30:43 | jhMikeS | Recent CVS activity only shows the last commit and not the remainder of the previous but the table shows all of it. |
| 04:30:54 | TerrorByte | And I did ask about GBC. |
| 04:30:54 | TerrorByte | But got disconnected. |
| 04:30:57 | TerrorByte | And didn't see any messages. |
| 04:30:57 | TerrorByte | -_-; |
| 04:30:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | You asked about GBC |
| 04:31:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | I said "Dunno" |
| 04:31:03 | Paul_the_Nerd | and you said "..." |
| 04:31:03 | TerrorByte | Oh. |
| 04:31:08 | TerrorByte | Yeah I wrote both. |
| 04:31:12 | TerrorByte | But I didn't see either. |
| 04:31:22 | TerrorByte | Reconnected. |
| 04:32:05 | TerrorByte | Maybe I should go bug Barry about Rockboy on the H10. |
| 04:32:13 | Paul_the_Nerd | Why him? |
| 04:32:21 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's hardly his responsibility. |
| 04:32:31 | TerrorByte | Who's responsibility is it? |
| 04:32:37 | TerrorByte | Should be yours..... Yep. |
| 04:32:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | Whoever wants it done badly enough. |
| 04:32:52 | Paul_the_Nerd | Barry's put a lot of hard work in on things that actually affect everyone. |
| 04:32:54 | TerrorByte | Great job turning it on me. |
| 04:32:57 | TerrorByte | You're good at that. |
| 04:33:00 | | Join ObsidianX [0] (i=evilmonk@evil.pengu.in) |
| 04:33:06 | scorche | TerrorByte: it si the truth |
| 04:33:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | Pestering people to do things they don't care about doesn't get them done any sooner, but does irritate them. |
| 04:33:21 | Soap | is even |
| 04:33:34 | ObsidianX | hey, does anybody here have an untouched iPod 5g 1.2 firmware? |
| 04:33:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | For example, I don't even have an H10. If I were going to tinker with the output code on Rockbox, I'd do it for Nano |
| 04:33:42 | scorche | Soap: i noticed you didnt even try to tab-complete ;) |
| 04:33:43 | TerrorByte | Like you? |
| 04:34:02 | Paul_the_Nerd | As we can see, it's been nearly a year since Rockbox came to the Nano, and while I was either the first or second person to boot Rockbox on one, I've clearly not adapted Rockboy |
| 04:34:38 | TerrorByte | I dunno why Rockboy isn't as popular. |
| 04:34:40 | TerrorByte | I mean come on. |
| 04:34:55 | TerrorByte | It's Rockbox with like a stick added onto the 'x'. |
| 04:35:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | Because color gameboys are $8, games are 1-2, legal roms require owning the game anyway, so you're saving $8 by using it. |
| 04:35:11 | Soap | I know, I wish I could play games while at work. |
| 04:35:18 | * | jhMikeS has never tried out Rockboy |
| 04:35:24 | * | scorche hasnt either |
| 04:35:34 | scorche | nor the everpopular doom |
| 04:35:38 | * | Paul_the_Nerd tried it once, but it was during that period where you couldn't quit on H120 without a hard reset. |
| 04:36:06 | * | Soap doesn't trust DAP buttons to handle gaming usage. |
| 04:36:12 | | Quit mirak (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 04:36:16 | * | TerrorByte concurs |
| 04:36:29 | TerrorByte | Not gaming 24/7 on the damn thing. |
| 04:36:32 | TerrorByte | Just occasionally. |
| 04:36:47 | * | jhMikeS worries about laying the buttons to waste with hard gaming |
| 04:37:28 | Soap | consiering I plan on keeping my player for ~ 10 years, I don't want to wear it out. |
| 04:38:03 | TerrorByte | LOL. |
| 04:38:27 | Soap | you think I'm kidding? I _am_ on a 450 right now. |
| 04:38:44 | TerrorByte | Wow. |
| 04:38:45 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yeah, other than occasional battery and HD replacements, I want my H120 to last a good long time. |
| 04:38:50 | TerrorByte | Won't the HD just conk out by then? |
| 04:38:53 | TerrorByte | Ah. |
| 04:39:35 | scorche | i still use my archos recorder regularly as do many other people...it is pretty old |
| 04:40:34 | TerrorByte | I still would like Rockboy. |
| 04:40:42 | jhMikeS | I think even Solitaire is a bit heavy on the button use as that can be pretty intense :P |
| 04:40:46 | scorche | then do it |
| 04:41:20 | | Quit wehn_ () |
| 04:47:12 | TerrorByte | ... |
| 04:47:28 | TerrorByte | Well long weekend for me. |
| 04:51:42 | | Quit TerrorByte ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 04:52:38 | jhMikeS | Paul_the_Nerd: forgot to thank you for helping out. thanks. |
| 04:55:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, not like I really helped. :-P |
| 04:56:03 | jhMikeS | actually it did cause you checked a red build yourself so I knew it wasn't on my end |
| 04:58:42 | | Join Davide-NYC [0] (n=chatzill@user-12hdtm5.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:30 | Paul_the_Nerd | Well, either way, it's not time for Bagder-intervention |
| 05:01:13 | Davide-NYC | So my nephew drops off an iPod 4g Grayscale today for me to muck with |
| 05:01:19 | Davide-NYC | kewl |
| 05:01:25 | Davide-NYC | compiling now |
| 05:01:31 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 05:01:40 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 05:03:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | Watch out, they freeze. |
| 05:03:15 | jhMikeS | Davide-NYC: thinking about giving up the H120 for an iPod now? :P |
| 05:03:27 | Davide-NYC | no way. |
| 05:03:37 | Davide-NYC | Paul_the_Nerd: are u serious, how bad? |
| 05:03:51 | Davide-NYC | Maybe I can help! |
| 05:03:54 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
| 05:03:57 | Paul_the_Nerd | It's the CPU scaling bug. |
| 05:04:07 | | Join rudefyet [0] (n=matt@cpe-76-181-143-206.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 05:04:08 | Paul_the_Nerd | If you manually boost, or disable frequency scaling, it's fine. |
| 05:04:25 | Davide-NYC | hmm, not sure I follow |
| 05:04:47 | Davide-NYC | how do I do either of those thing? |
| 05:05:09 | Paul_the_Nerd | The first one can be achieved from the debug menu, you just increase the boost counter by one in the cpu frequency portion of the debug menu. |
| 05:05:19 | Paul_the_Nerd | The second one is accomplished by disabling a define in the build |
| 05:08:01 | | Quit gromit` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:10:32 | Davide-NYC | stupid question: how do I reboot this thing? |
| 05:10:54 | scorche | hold menu and select |
| 05:11:17 | Davide-NYC | bam! thanks |
| 05:12:51 | | Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54B16DD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:13:17 | scorche | you are welcome emeril |
| 05:13:17 | Davide-NYC | so the usb mode is still handled by retail os |
| 05:13:47 | Paul_the_Nerd | Yup |
| 05:26:11 | | Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@145.80-202-105.nextgentel.com) |
| 05:29:38 | | Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 05:32:41 | | Join erock [0] (i=erock@ip72-209-77-166.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 05:34:30 | erock | anyone have a problem with the original ipod firmware being mirrored? |
| 05:34:56 | | Join perpleXa [0] (i=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) |
| 05:35:11 | | Quit mosh ("adios") |
| 05:36:25 | erock | hello |
| 05:36:34 | erock | anyone in here for to help me with the rocking box? |
| 05:36:53 | | Join jp [0] (n=jp@c-24-19-243-187.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 05:38:21 | | Quit perpleXa (Client Quit) |
| 05:41:53 | | Join perpleXa [0] (i=perplexa@unaffiliated/perplexa) |
| 05:42:15 | | Quit perpleXa (Client Quit) |
| 05:45:33 | erock | anyone in here? |
| 05:45:35 | erock | hello |
| 05:45:38 | daurnimator | no |
| 05:45:49 | daurnimator | stop talking, i've got a headache |
| 05:46:02 | erock | this isn't very helpful at all |
| 05:47:05 | scorche | how are we supposed to help you when you have not asked a question? |
| 05:54:14 | erock | ok |
| 05:54:21 | erock | i have a greyscale |
| 05:54:23 | erock | 4g ipod |
| 05:55:07 | scorche | let me guess...freezes? |
| 05:55:12 | erock | i installed rockbox and when i switch back to regular firmware, its mirroed |
| 05:55:14 | erock | mirrored |
| 05:55:20 | scorche | ah...you |
| 05:55:37 | scorche | now what do you mean by mirrored? |
| 05:55:50 | erock | backwards |
| 05:55:53 | erock | from right to left |
| 05:56:40 | scorche | are you referring to rockbox being mirrored or the original firmware? |
| 05:57:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | Wasn't that a problem with old bootloaders? |
| 05:57:54 | Paul_the_Nerd | Or no, that was inverse colors |
| 05:58:08 | scorche | yeah |
| 05:58:16 | scorche | (to the second line) |
| 05:59:55 | Paul_the_Nerd | Is he using the Rockbox loader, or loader 2.4? |
| 06:00 |
| 06:01:02 | scorche | well, he still hasnt answered my question yet either, although i doubt it is the OR... |
| 06:01:21 | * | Paul_the_Nerd shrugs |
| 06:07:37 | Davide-NYC | is there any way to use the ipod in rockbox while charging? |
| 06:07:55 | Davide-NYC | 4g grey |
| 06:08:02 | scorche | hold menu while inserting the cable |
| 06:08:14 | scorche | and read the manual/read FAQ ;) |
| 06:08:19 | Davide-NYC | hehe |
| 06:08:57 | Davide-NYC | I guess I have to. I was trying to get around it since I've already read it twice for the H1x0 |
| 06:09:21 | scorche | well, you dont need to read the things like how tagcache works, etc |
| 06:09:54 | Davide-NYC | that didn't work at all :-) |
| 06:10:56 | Davide-NYC | compiling manula now... |
| 06:11:00 | Davide-NYC | *manual |
| 06:11:11 | scorche | uh...why? |
| 06:12:15 | Davide-NYC | why not? |
| 06:12:28 | Davide-NYC | save bandwidth on the rb servers? |
| 06:12:29 | scorche | because they are available on the site? |
| 06:12:33 | * | scorche shrugs |
| 06:12:39 | scorche | to each, their own i guess =) |
| 06:13:20 | erock | oh crap |
| 06:13:22 | erock | sorry |
| 06:13:29 | erock | i got distracated by songbird |
| 06:13:35 | | Quit erock (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 06:13:44 | * | Paul_the_Nerd wonders why people ask for help if they don't actually want it. |
| 06:14:05 | * | scorche wonders if songbrd kicked him too |
| 06:14:33 | | Join erock [0] (i=erock@ip72-209-77-166.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 06:14:42 | erock | oh crap |
| 06:14:50 | erock | i got distracted by songbird |
| 06:15:00 | Paul_the_Nerd | erock: As a general rule, if you ask for help and expect us to pay enough attention to give help, you should also pay enough attention to receive it. |
| 06:15:08 | erock | yes, i apologize |
| 06:15:19 | erock | that was very jerklike |
| 06:15:37 | Paul_the_Nerd | Anyway, is the reversing in Rockbox or Original firmware, and which bootloader are you using? |
| 06:15:42 | erock | my problem though was for original firmware |
| 06:15:48 | erock | and i am using the regular bootloader |
| 06:15:57 | scorche | wow... |
| 06:16:01 | erock | or.. whichever one the guide tells you to install |
| 06:16:13 | scorche | which guide? |
| 06:16:17 | erock | uhm |
| 06:16:25 | erock | the first link in the list of them |
| 06:16:26 | erock | at the site |
| 06:16:44 | erock | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallation |
| 06:17:00 | scorche | well, regardless, that is very odd... |
| 06:17:06 | erock | yea? |
| 06:17:10 | erock | its happened many times |
| 06:17:15 | erock | i used rockbox for a while |
| 06:17:23 | erock | then since it freezes sometimes i switched back |
| 06:17:24 | scorche | have you tried uninstalling rockbox and loading the original firmware? |
| 06:17:32 | erock | and now i decided to try it again, same problem |
| 06:17:45 | scorche | FYI: there is a temporary fix for the freezes |
| 06:17:56 | erock | oh, is there? |
| 06:18:01 | erock | i pretty much despise itunes |
| 06:18:14 | erock | since ID3 tags are terrible when i download lots of music |
| 06:18:15 | scorche | yes...the frequency scaling patch |
| 06:18:27 | erock | frequency scaling? |
| 06:18:36 | scorche | that is what i said.. |
| 06:18:47 | * | Davide-NYC ducks |
| 06:18:55 | scorche | search in the tracker for that |
| 06:18:58 | erock | yes, i don't understand the term |
| 06:19:07 | erock | or how it would fix freezing |
| 06:19:09 | erock | but i will search |
| 06:19:28 | erock | so i could try using a different loader to fix the mirror bug you think? |
| 06:19:32 | scorche | or if you are unable to compile/dont want to learn (which you really should), there is this build http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6357.0 |
| 06:20:06 | scorche | honestly, i dont know what could be causing it, although it *could* be the bootloader |
| 06:20:21 | scorche | try uninstalling rockbox and see if you still have the issue |
| 06:20:22 | Davide-NYC | I found a bug, it's not in the tracker and it's trivial |
| 06:20:54 | Davide-NYC | Delete direcory asks for a select, but acts on a Play/Pause |
| 06:21:16 | Davide-NYC | It is worthy of a bug reports? |
| 06:21:43 | Paul_the_Nerd | The language file needs to be patched. |
| 06:21:44 | scorche | no..it was probably something i screwed up with my latest patch |
| 06:21:53 | scorche | let me check |
| 06:21:53 | erock | i will try uninstall, brb |
| 06:24:39 | | Join midgey34 [0] (n=tjross@markely-164-75.reshall.umich.edu) |
| 06:24:41 | | Quit jp ("Leaving") |
| 06:25:45 | Davide-NYC | is it safe to delete this BOOTEX.LOG file? |
| 06:27:25 | erock | so this frequency scaling is an error where rockbox tries to scale the cpu for battery life and it fails? |
| 06:27:49 | scorche | it is related |
| 06:32:38 | | Quit Landus ("Leaving") |
| 06:33:49 | Davide-NYC | decides to give back the pod |
| 06:34:03 | * | Davide-NYC me no likee :-( |
| 06:36:59 | erock | ok, thanks a bunch guys, i went to that site, downloaded the scaling frequency patch, and from his site got another bootloader which loads apple firmware by default, and it isn't mirrored |
| 06:37:09 | scorche | well, looking at the keymaps, i dont see one that should have that behavior...maybe it is an issue of what lang delete calls |
| 06:37:13 | erock | now i shall test the freezing |
| 06:37:33 | scorche | erock: you mean patch and not build correct? |
| 06:38:04 | scorche | hrm....so it most likely is an issue with the bootloader |
| 06:38:45 | erock | yes, it appears to be bootloader issue, i got... the zip file with an edited build, and also a bootloader4g.bin |
| 06:39:33 | scorche | anyone happen to know where the code is for the "pop-ups" such as deleting a file, shutting down, etc are? |
| 06:41:42 | scorche | scattered i see... |
| 06:53:23 | | Quit erock (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 07:00 |
| 07:01:44 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 07:01:47 | Davide-NYC | I don;t |
| 07:01:59 | Davide-NYC | bed time |
| 07:02:06 | | Quit Davide-NYC ("Chatzilla 0.9.76 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023]") |
| 07:07:19 | | Join rudefyet_ [0] (n=matt@cpe-76-181-143-206.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 07:08:21 | | Quit rudefyet_ (Client Quit) |
| 07:10:40 | | Join putnum [0] (i=4028e01e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 07:11:11 | | Quit putnum (Client Quit) |
| 07:24:39 | | Quit rudefyet (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 07:27:47 | | Quit secleinteer (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:47 | NSplit | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit RoC_MM (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit alberink (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit Psiuyo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:27:48 | | Quit dark (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 07:29:56 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | ze [0] (i=ze@70.40.152.105) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | Psiuyo [0] (n=me@S0106000f66cdc7db.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) |
| 07:29:56 | NJoin | dark [0] (i=deviled_@microsoft.gotrooted.com) |
| 07:34:30 | | Quit RoC_MM ("Leaving") |
| 07:42:13 | | Part Paul_the_Nerd |
| 08:00 |
| 08:02:21 | | Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host198-139.pool8250.interbusiness.it) |
| 08:23:37 | | Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-252-230-67.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 08:25:47 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I tell you what happened... the build system started building in the middle of your commit. |
| 08:25:58 | amiconn | It does that from time to time, very annoying |
| 08:26:40 | * | amiconn wants atomic commits !!!1!!1 |
| 08:32:41 | | Join gromit` [0] (n=gromit@ras75-5-82-234-244-69.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:41:12 | | Quit EspeonEefi ("Leaving") |
| 08:42:05 | | Quit spiorf (Remote closed the connection) |
| 08:48:57 | | Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-240.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 08:55:39 | | Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 08:55:46 | | Quit RoC_MM (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 08:58:40 | jhMikeS | amiconn: had me going I'll tell ya :) |
| 08:59:14 | amiconn | hi |
| 08:59:35 | jhMikeS | hello |
| 08:59:46 | amiconn | Are you still looking into the idea of in-place memory swapping? |
| 08:59:57 | amiconn | Would be nice to reclaim 512KB of RAM... |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:17 | jhMikeS | yes, surely |
| 09:01:37 | jhMikeS | BTW: I had to do the memcpy in a function because some plugins use "#define memcpy rb->memcpy" which plays havoc with a macro |
| 09:01:46 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:03:49 | jhMikeS | Frankly I'd like to get rid of the voice thread altogether by using a more TSR like interface on the voice codec and push data to it. I suppose a codec could have two different interfaces. |
| 09:05:24 | amiconn | We'd still need 2 codecs |
| 09:06:33 | jhMikeS | true but only one thread which would make swapping single thread and much simpler |
| 09:09:56 | | Join itsmeguys [0] (n=i_aint_n@203-173-47-244.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:10:17 | | Part itsmeguys |
| 09:15:49 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 09:17:28 | | Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 09:34:48 | | Quit JoeBorn ("reboot") |
| 09:40:48 | | Join JoeBorn [0] (n=rootmeis@220.160.116.231) |
| 09:47:21 | | Join Guest52768 [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) |
| 09:47:21 | | Quit lini (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 09:51:05 | | Quit Guest52768 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 09:51:12 | | Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) |
| 09:54:26 | | Part nave7693 |
| 09:58:18 | | Join scorche` [0] (i=ScorchE@cpe-76-171-123-86.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 09:59:10 | | Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@82.193.235.34) |
| 09:59:24 | | Join aegray__ [0] (n=aegray@c-71-194-37-21.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 09:59:32 | | Quit scorche (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 09:59:32 | | Quit aegray_ (Remote closed the connection) |
| 09:59:52 | | Join Gibbed [0] (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 09:59:54 | | Quit Rick (Nick collision from services.) |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:08 | | Nick Gibbed is now known as Rick (i=rick@pool-71-108-2-183.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit alberink (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:25 | NSplit | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit secleinteer (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit Psiuyo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit dark (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:25 | | Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:01:40 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | ze [0] (i=ze@70.40.152.105) |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | Psiuyo [0] (n=me@S0106000f66cdc7db.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) |
| 10:01:40 | NJoin | dark [0] (i=deviled_@microsoft.gotrooted.com) |
| 10:04:22 | | Join nave7694 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-240.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 10:04:36 | | Part nave7694 |
| 10:09:23 | | Quit Coldtoast (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 10:11:17 | | Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-18-38-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit alberink (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | NSplit | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit secleinteer (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Strath (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Psiuyo (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit dark (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit ze (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit netmasta10bt (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit madduck (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Bagder (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit midkay (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit shattered (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit _Veseliq_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit myzar|away (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit psiborg (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit jhMikeS (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit ravon (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Lynx_ (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit daurnimator (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit courtc (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Nimdae (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit bagawk (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:30 | | Quit Nibbier (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 10:12:51 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | dark [0] (i=deviled_@microsoft.gotrooted.com) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Strath [0] (n=donat@dpc6747254230.direcpc.com) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Psiuyo [0] (n=me@S0106000f66cdc7db.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | alberink [0] (n=alberink@cc516682-b.ensch1.ov.home.nl) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | ze [0] (i=ze@70.40.152.105) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | netmasta10bt [0] (n=torment@pool-71-251-91-239.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | madduck [0] (n=madduck@debian/developer/madduck) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | ravon [0] (n=nnnravon@c-e947e455.029-28-73746f34.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Bagder [0] (n=daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | daurnimator [0] (n=fake@unaffiliated/daurnimator) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | shattered [0] (n=svs@svs.complife.ru) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | courtc [0] (n=court@c-71-199-169-45.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Nimdae [0] (n=nimmeh@71-11-210-76.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | bagawk [0] (n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | psiborg [0] (n=psiborg@flits103-221.flits.rug.nl) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | myzar|away [0] (n=myzar@66.199.227.210) |
| 10:12:51 | NJoin | Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-78-72.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 10:13:06 | | Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-240.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 10:16:56 | | Quit lini ("lini has no reason") |
| 10:20:35 | Ctcp | Version from freenode-connect!freenode@freenode/bot/connect |
| 10:27:15 | | Quit midkay (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 10:31:34 | | Part nave7693 |
| 10:32:06 | | Join Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p548352CF.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:54:56 | | Join n1s [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) |
| 10:55:32 | n1s | Any h300 users here? |
| 10:59:11 | | Quit rconan ("Leaving") |
| 10:59:36 | | Quit Blackfish ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 11:00 |
| 11:01:49 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 11:01:55 | | Join BHSPitLappy_ [0] (n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 11:03:53 | | Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 11:04:37 | n1s | oh yay hy weird 96kHz oggs play without skips now (thanks to amiconns optimisations i presume) :-) |
| 11:06:26 | | Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) |
| 11:07:21 | | Join ender` [0] (n=ender@84.52.165.220) |
| 11:08:03 | jhMikeS | n1s: preglow was the last one mucking about in the codecs iirc |
| 11:08:25 | | Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 11:08:45 | n1s | hmm, maybe I should thank him then... |
| 11:11:19 | | Join Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) |
| 11:16:43 | | Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 11:18:11 | | Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 11:22:30 | | Nick BHSPitLappy_ is now known as BHSPitLappy (n=steve-o@adsl-65-68-201-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 11:41:16 | | Join MarcoPolo [0] (n=MarcoPol@che78-2-82-227-240-106.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:00 |
| 12:02:32 | | Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) |
| 12:05:41 | | Quit XavierGr (Nick collision from services.) |
| 12:05:44 | | Join XavierGr [0] (n=xavier@ppp202-186.adsl.forthnet.gr) |
| 12:08:18 | | Quit rconan ("Leaving") |
| 12:09:33 | | Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@p54B7F021.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:09:38 | | Quit ivan` (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC has never been so good") |
| 12:12:26 | | Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:15:34 | | Quit rconan (Client Quit) |
| 12:29:23 | | Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:30:44 | | Quit jborn_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 12:30:46 | | Join jborn__ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 12:33:13 | | Join My_Sic [0] (n=MySic@m64.net81-67-5.noos.fr) |
| 12:36:39 | | Join ShiftPlusOne [0] (n=ShiftPlu@c220-237-185-125.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:37:21 | ShiftPlusOne | Heya |
| 12:38:12 | ShiftPlusOne | was wondering.... if I wanted to do some low level iPod programming.... with assembly and C.... what would be a good starting place to learn assembly? |
| 12:38:18 | ShiftPlusOne | (if anyone is there at all) |
| 12:41:58 | | Quit robfitz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 12:44:21 | | Join robfitz [0] (n=robfitz@212.2.171.8) |
| 12:49:33 | | Quit lini ("lini has no reason") |
| 12:56:57 | | Join webguest44 [0] (i=c2cefe08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 12:57:30 | | Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 12:57:58 | | Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54966286.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:58:45 | | Join lini [0] (i=pugsley@62.204.144.237) |
| 12:59:15 | pixelma | JdGordon: thankd for fixing the bubbles controls... but sorry to get on your nerves but the automatic shoot doesn't work correctly - only after the time ran out it is possible to shoot with any key. If you don't touch the player at all it stays with the "hurry" displayed |
| 12:59:26 | pixelma | thanks too :) |
| 12:59:35 | | Join webguest98 [0] (i=c2cefe08@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 13:00 |
| 13:01:51 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 13:02:26 | | Quit webguest44 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 13:03:54 | | Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) |
| 13:04:36 | | Quit webguest98 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 13:09:23 | Gnelik | dan_a_away:hi, any progress? |
| 13:14:45 | | Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@rockbox/administrator/Febs) |
| 13:17:46 | | Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@unaffiliated/daurnimator) |
| 13:18:50 | | Quit daurnimator (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 13:19:53 | | Join daurnimator [0] (n=fake@unaffiliated/daurnimator) |
| 13:20:05 | JdGordon | pixelma: sorry, im confused.. how is it suppsosed to work? |
| 13:20:44 | | Join crashd [0] (n=crashd@lostnode.org) |
| 13:23:24 | pixelma | JdGordon: first it warns you with the "hurry" splash... then after a few more seconds it fires the bubble independantly... so if you would start the game and leave the player alone you would lose after a while |
| 13:23:35 | | Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-41.net-81-220-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:23:49 | JdGordon | yeah, thats whats supposed to happen.. no? |
| 13:24:14 | pixelma | yes but it doesn't |
| 13:24:28 | JdGordon | it did in the sim... |
| 13:24:33 | pixelma | not in mine |
| 13:24:41 | | Join Blackfish [0] (n=asd@p548353EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:24:47 | JdGordon | it felt like about 10s or so.. |
| 13:24:56 | | Join funky [0] (n=repulse@84-123-28-183.onocable.ono.com) |
| 13:25:07 | pixelma | (tried Ondio-Sim, H300-Sim and on target) |
| 13:25:32 | | Quit crashd (Client Quit) |
| 13:25:37 | | Join crashd [0] (n=crashd@lostnode.org) |
| 13:25:39 | pixelma | I could have gone make myself coffee or something |
| 13:25:50 | JdGordon | ive just opened up the ondio sim.. hurry after about 5s then shoots.. |
| 13:26:02 | JdGordon | no, it looks like only the first one shoots |
| 13:26:45 | JdGordon | yeah, only the first one after a hurry gets shot |
| 13:27:14 | JdGordon | thats very odd... i didnt change any logic code.. :( |
| 13:27:24 | pixelma | here even the first one doesn't get shot |
| 13:28:27 | pixelma | and in my version before your changes everything works as it's supposed to |
| 13:30:30 | jhMikeS | Before I go to sleep I should mention I couldn't play solitaire either. Can't pick cards up or examine the deck. |
| 13:30:51 | JdGordon | i havnt touched solataire... so you shoosh :D |
| 13:30:57 | pixelma | jhMikeS: when did you last play Solitaire? |
| 13:31:09 | jhMikeS | doing it now |
| 13:31:11 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok, i must have been dreaming... its not shooting the button now |
| 13:31:24 | | Join Torchwood13 [0] (n=Torchwoo@88-105-73-35.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 13:31:36 | pixelma | I made some button changes a few weeks before so that drawing cards and so on aren't button combos anymore |
| 13:31:52 | Torchwood13 | hello all |
| 13:32:16 | pixelma | jhMikeS: I adapted to the manual by then |
| 13:32:17 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok, i tinhk i might know whats happening... |
| 13:32:27 | | Part Torchwood13 |
| 13:33:06 | pixelma | jhMikeS: http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-iaudiox5/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1310008.1.15 |
| 13:34:40 | jhMikeS | pixelma: I can't do much of anything on x5 to play it :(. That's not working now on my player. |
| 13:35:06 | JdGordon | ok, yeah, i had the wrong action for no button... |
| 13:36:16 | JdGordon | should it stop shooting automattically after the 2nd one? |
| 13:37:06 | pixelma | jhMikeS: then I don't know what's happening. My changes worked... confirmed by amiconn on his X5 |
| 13:37:34 | pixelma | JdGordon: no I don't think so |
| 13:38:21 | JdGordon | ok, ill investigate this prperly tomiirw.. im heading out now |
| 13:38:25 | jhMikeS | U/D/L/R works and somehow I giggled it around and got the deck to draw. |
| 13:39:56 | | Join _ke [0] (n=dgsiegel@e181080214.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 13:40:12 | _ke | hi |
| 13:40:47 | pixelma | jhMikeS: did you try the short and long presses? (sorry for the stupid question) |
| 13:41:52 | Gnelik | _ke: hi |
| 13:41:57 | jhMikeS | yes, trying everything. you have to be pretty fast on play to draw on the deck or it doesn't draw cards. |
| 13:42:26 | _ke | does anybody knows how to enable the modded firmware from pjulius (those for his themes).. i got "failed codec" |
| 13:43:11 | Gnelik | We don't support modede firmwares |
| 13:43:58 | _ke | DOWNLOAD jBlackGlass, but please note you'll need my latest rockbox prebuild binnary! (look for rockbox-jbuild-YYYYMMDD-$yourdevice$.tar.gz) (on: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g) |
| 13:44:14 | | Quit MarcoPolo (Remote closed the connection) |
| 13:45:10 | pixelma | jhMikeS: hmm... yes. I think it is because "hold play" has a different function. Blame amiconn it was his idea ;) |
| 13:46:20 | jhMikeS | hrm...:) |
| 13:48:21 | jhMikeS | I can't select cards and drop them. Seems to be the only thing not right. |
| 13:51:47 | pixelma | what do you mean? |
| 13:53:01 | jhMikeS | all this is weird, I monkeyed around and now it's selecting and dropping cards when it wasn't before. it sort of woke up. :\ |
| 13:53:35 | pixelma | that sound weird indeed |
| 13:54:08 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Solitaire works on a charm for me on X5 |
| 13:54:10 | jhMikeS | There's no rectange to show the card is selected anymore. that's a bit confusing |
| 13:54:35 | amiconn | There is |
| 13:55:27 | jhMikeS | Where? I select the card and move away from it and it looks the same. |
| 13:55:30 | pixelma | in the sim the rectangle doesn't look right too |
| 13:56:06 | pixelma | last time I checked it was blue - and I guess that it has to do with the backdrop implementation |
| 13:56:16 | amiconn | There is a blkue rectangle that turns orange when inverted |
| 13:56:18 | jhMikeS | I know it's selected cause I have to hit play twice to go to the next card in the deck |
| 13:56:18 | pixelma | (now it is white in my cas) |
| 13:56:32 | pixelma | *case |
| 13:56:40 | amiconn | Maybe kkurbjun broke it with his backdrop change |
| 13:56:54 | amiconn | It's fine here (didn't replace plugins yet) |
| 13:57:10 | jhMikeS | I'll check sans backdrop |
| 13:57:20 | amiconn | I have it running _with_ backdrop |
| 13:57:21 | | Nick dan_a_away is now known as dan_a (n=dan-mirc@217.23.173.156) |
| 13:57:28 | | Quit ShiftPlusOne () |
| 13:57:51 | pixelma | jhMikeS: what foreground/background colours are you using (maybe it has something to do with it)? |
| 13:57:54 | amiconn | The core is new, so the plugin loader doesn't remove the backdrop, and old plugins never removed backdrops, so I have solitaire on my main backdrop |
| 13:58:47 | jhMikeS | I really don't see _any_ indicator of the selection...none. But I can select and move the card. |
| 13:59:25 | * | amiconn blames kkurbjun |
| 13:59:56 | jhMikeS | It was replaced in a full rebuild |
| 14:00 |
| 14:00:13 | amiconn | I wonder whether certain devs test changes at all :( |
| 14:00:28 | jhMikeS | lol |
| 14:00:34 | amiconn | ? |
| 14:00:56 | jhMikeS | testing changes and all...funny. I wonder too at times. |
| 14:01:09 | * | amiconn cannot see the fun in it |
| 14:01:14 | amiconn | It's rather annoying |
| 14:01:17 | Gnelik | dan_a: Hi! |
| 14:01:24 | * | jhMikeS is rather macabre |
| 14:01:57 | Gnelik | dan_a:main rockbox function seems not to start at all |
| 14:01:58 | jhMikeS | I beat the crap out of any changes I make before doing anything |
| 14:02:33 | | Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-14-248.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:02:43 | | Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d01m-195-36-140-162.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 14:02:48 | dan_a | Gnelik: Then I would suspect something in firmware/target/arm/crt0-pp.S is at fault |
| 14:03:35 | * | jhMikeS wonders why peakmeters are so much faster on a debug build |
| 14:03:51 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, had to fix some minor bugs in my bmp loader. 16 bit rgb565 didn't work at all... |
| 14:04:05 | amiconn | Now it does, and size didn't increase except on arm |
| 14:04:11 | dan_a | Gnelik: That has a lot of code that gets compiled in a normal build which doesn't in a bootloader build |
| 14:04:24 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that's the most important one! |
| 14:04:36 | amiconn | ? |
| 14:04:48 | jhMikeS | iiow the one I use :) |
| 14:04:48 | amiconn | I mean 16bit rgb _bmp_, i.e. source format |
| 14:05:05 | jhMikeS | oh, ne'er mind |
| 14:05:08 | amiconn | 16bit xrgb1555 did work |
| 14:05:21 | amiconn | I got the masks wrong, and the mmask reading as well... |
| 14:06:08 | jhMikeS | how bout adding blur, sharpening, embossing and other effects? :P |
| 14:06:11 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, for 16bit bmp to 16bit lcd, I disable dithering unconditionally. I think dithering would be counter-productive here |
| 14:06:17 | Gnelik | dan_a: it is to hard for me to understand what is writen there |
| 14:06:40 | dan_a | Gnelik: It is in ARM assembler |
| 14:06:42 | jhMikeS | I think so too |
| 14:07:39 | amiconn | Next step will be remote support, then transparency support for 2 bit targets |
| 14:07:43 | jhMikeS | won't get much good out of dithering 565->555 but who needs that anyway? |
| 14:08:11 | jhMikeS | backdrops on mono remotes? |
| 14:08:19 | amiconn | No, but on 2 bit remote |
| 14:08:20 | dan_a | Gnelik: I'll have a look and see if I can get it so that it will run main() |
| 14:09:08 | Gnelik | dan_a: I puted code from bootloader to main_app method of main.c |
| 14:09:30 | Gnelik | lcd_init_device etc. |
| 14:09:32 | jhMikeS | I'd like to see some alpha channel support starting with the USB logos so the edges can be perfect on color target |
| 14:10:26 | | Quit thegeek (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:11:24 | jhMikeS | but I know you think those thing are insane ;) but of course you didn't like the whole dithering thing at first either |
| 14:12:44 | amiconn | These 2 things are fundamentally different. Dithering happens at load time. Alpha would be while drawing |
| 14:13:07 | amiconn | If you want to bog down gfx even more, introduce (true) alpha. I won't |
| 14:13:11 | jhMikeS | yes, of course= |
| 14:13:32 | jhMikeS | what's true alpha? a four bit channel might be enough |
| 14:13:34 | amiconn | Imho 1 bit transparency is fully sufficient |
| 14:13:39 | | Join thegeek [0] (n=thegeek@s026b.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 14:14:39 | * | JdGordon back |
| 14:14:42 | amiconn | For 2 bit targets, transparency will need a mask bitmap. That's in fact already prepared a bit |
| 14:15:20 | amiconn | I'm not yet sure how to integrate this into the bitmap build system |
| 14:15:30 | jhMikeS | it's not like you have a lot of color to reserve there |
| 14:15:47 | jhMikeS | make the mask part of the format in two planes? |
| 14:16:19 | amiconn | No. I want to keep the ability to use all 4 levels for the image, independent of transparency |
| 14:16:26 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 14:16:54 | jhMikeS | one plane has the image the other the mask |
| 14:17:02 | amiconn | ? |
| 14:17:13 | | Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:17:27 | amiconn | The image is a native (2bit image), the mask will be an 1bit image |
| 14:17:41 | jhMikeS | yup, the 1bit image follows the 2-bit image |
| 14:17:43 | | Join daurn|laptop [0] (n=quae@124.243.137.107) |
| 14:18:12 | amiconn | struct bitmap already contains the necessary 2nd pointer |
| 14:18:26 | amiconn | The mask can be generated by bmp2rb (or the bmp loader), using the same convention as for colour |
| 14:18:42 | amiconn | ...i.e. pure magenta will define pixels as transparent |
| 14:19:55 | | Quit GreyFoux (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:20:24 | jhMikeS | but you can keep them in one image array rather than two. start with a bitmap with four gray shades and a magenta background and read that in in a single file |
| 14:21:51 | jhMikeS | If the 2nd pointer exists, then the mask is applied, else it's solid |
| 14:22:26 | | Quit Gnelik (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 14:23:04 | | Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) |
| 14:23:13 | * | jhMikeS think images might need tiny info headers for use by the bitmap apis |
| 14:29:40 | jhMikeS | maybe then bitmap function won't need size info passed in every call. would save stack pushes. |
| 14:29:56 | JdGordon | anyone know the bubbles code well? |
| 14:30:26 | dan_a | Gnelik: I'm looking at crt0-pp.S now to see why it doesn't boot. |
| 14:31:09 | | Part Wett |
| 14:31:13 | | Join Wett [0] (n=Wett@d01m-195-36-140-162.d4.club-internet.fr) |
| 14:32:59 | | Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.245.195) |
| 14:33:58 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: where's the author? |
| 14:34:12 | JdGordon | i dunno |
| 14:34:45 | * | amiconn wonders whether there'll be a target with a colour remote =:) |
| 14:34:55 | jhMikeS | If I weren't so tired and ready to sleep I'd learn it real quick |
| 14:34:56 | JdGordon | doesnt the x5 have? |
| 14:35:06 | pixelma | author is Adam Boot /rotator IIRC |
| 14:35:19 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I'm waiting myself...if I don't see one I'll make my own. |
| 14:35:24 | pixelma | gtg |
| 14:35:40 | jhMikeS | pixelma: bye |
| 14:35:41 | JdGordon | pixelma: wanna test my fix before going? |
| 14:36:05 | pixelma | JdGordon: sorry no time - I'm really in a hurry now |
| 14:36:09 | JdGordon | ok |
| 14:36:16 | JdGordon | i think it really works this time :p |
| 14:36:25 | | Part pixelma |
| 14:36:42 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I think we won't see one soon. |
| 14:37:12 | _ke | if i am in the tag cache, how can i exit to the main-screen? (ipod g5) |
| 14:37:18 | amiconn | Colour needs much more data transfer to the remote. Serial would be possible, but the image changes will take ages |
| 14:38:13 | amiconn | ...and a parallel connection would be a big problem for a remote |
| 14:38:23 | JdGordon | _ke: play |
| 14:39:33 | amiconn | Perhaps it would work with a dedicated serial transmitter |
| 14:39:57 | amiconn | But the wires would need really good shielding |
| 14:40:20 | _ke | JdGordon, just figured it out ;) and from the mainmenu? |
| 14:40:32 | _ke | ah menu |
| 14:40:33 | JdGordon | menu and left untill you get back |
| 14:40:34 | amiconn | main screen? |
| 14:40:45 | * | JdGordon thinks he means wps which isnt the main screen.. |
| 14:40:59 | jhMikeS | they should have always used a shielded coax cable |
| 14:41:23 | amiconn | Yeah, ticking remotes are annoying |
| 14:41:47 | amiconn | However, on iriver, most of the ticking is produced in the main unit |
| 14:43:00 | jhMikeS | amiconn: one thing I want to ask is, when you write bitbanging drivers, to get the delays right is it basically a matter of adding up the instruction execution times in the loop or does it take some experimenting to get it right? |
| 14:43:03 | amiconn | I only have one H100 remote. It ticks when connected to the H140, but not when connected to the H340 (that is, the silencing of /CS is required for the latter) |
| 14:43:37 | amiconn | jhMikeS: It's not only the execution times. It also depends on the waitstates for the port |
| 14:43:47 | amiconn | GPIO has quite a lot of wait states |
| 14:43:51 | Gnelik | dan_a:any ideas |
| 14:43:51 | Gnelik | ??? |
| 14:44:25 | jhMikeS | that info is in the datasheet I take it? |
| 14:44:47 | amiconn | Also, keep in mind that writes are buffered, but another write in the 2 cpu cycles after a write will stall the pipeline |
| 14:44:48 | dan_a | Gnelik: I can't see anything obvious, so I'm going to go through turning off the scrollwheel LED at different points until I find where it hangs |
| 14:44:54 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Not for GPIO |
| 14:45:30 | amiconn | My experiments have shown that a plain write to GPIO takes 12 (cpu) cycles, and an atomic read-modify-write takes 25 cycles |
| 14:46:45 | jhMikeS | what instruction performs does the atomic rmw? |
| 14:47:34 | amiconn | and.l / or.l / eor.l with a memory operand as destination |
| 14:47:48 | jhMikeS | k |
| 14:48:27 | amiconn | Only these instructions make it possible to modify ports without disabling interrupts |
| 14:48:44 | amiconn | ...as port bits are manipulated from various places |
| 14:50:57 | jhMikeS | I'm asking because I want to figure out how to read the ds2411. LinusN liked the idea. |
| 14:52:05 | Wett | \o/ managed to play a normal mpg file, demultiplexing it and playing the video stream only |
| 14:52:11 | amiconn | ds2411? |
| 14:52:14 | jhMikeS | The datasheet indicates certain timing ranges and I'd probably just boost the CPU to keep the delaying simplistic. |
| 14:52:21 | jhMikeS | The serial number chip |
| 14:52:39 | jhMikeS | on x5 |
| 14:52:59 | * | amiconn wonders what that chip might be good for |
| 14:53:18 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Don't boost the cpu in the driver |
| 14:53:26 | | Nick JoeBorn is now known as CashMoney (n=rootmeis@220.160.116.231) |
| 14:53:35 | amiconn | Boosting for very short times is bad |
| 14:54:08 | jhMikeS | If I can pool enough resources and decode the SN it might allow for auto configuration of the battery and other things. |
| 14:54:49 | jhMikeS | It's bad how? |
| 14:55:04 | | Nick CashMoney is now known as JoeBorn (n=rootmeis@220.160.116.231) |
| 14:55:19 | amiconn | Boosting takes several milliseconds (up to 10) until the pll relocks and the cpui is actually running at the new frequency |
| 14:55:36 | jhMikeS | I'd probably read it an cache it just once. It's 8 bytes and can be save for later use |
| 14:55:46 | amiconn | During the relock time, it's running at 11MHz |
| 14:56:04 | amiconn | Why not adjust the driver to the varying cpu clok? |
| 14:56:11 | | Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 14:56:15 | amiconn | That's what we do in numerous other places |
| 14:56:25 | jhMikeS | I know there's a delay and the PLL is bypassed but as I said, one read. |
| 14:56:42 | | Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 14:57:06 | jhMikeS | Probably would take more bytes of code to do it than to just save the number once and never read the chip again. |
| 14:57:42 | amiconn | How would that serial number allow for auto-configuration, btw? |
| 14:58:27 | jhMikeS | Don't know yet. Would have to have people report their's and what they have and see if a pattern exits that indicates a model |
| 14:59:15 | | Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") |
| 14:59:22 | _ke | hey guys, i wanted to thank you! rockbox is REALLY a cool thing, and the best: it simply works |
| 14:59:42 | jhMikeS | Would just add it to the debug screen at first under an existing screen so people can view it easily |
| 15:00 |
| 15:01:37 | jhMikeS | of course we could make them use retailos and read it from there |
| 15:01:52 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 15:03:17 | Gnelik | dan_a: Have you any progress |
| 15:04:19 | dan_a | Gnelik: Nothing yet. I'll tell you when I find something. |
| 15:04:59 | Gnelik | dan_a: Ok. I'l not worie you |
| 15:08:54 | | Quit amsys (Remote closed the connection) |
| 15:09:26 | | Join amsys [0] (n=uruz@home.amsys.cz) |
| 15:09:49 | amiconn | GPIO22; it's already in the CPU port pin assignments page |
| 15:10:00 | | Join theblatte [0] (n=theblatt@bob75-7-88-160-7-69.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:10:17 | amiconn | This 1-wire protocol is strange... |
| 15:10:29 | amiconn | They should have used i2c imho |
| 15:10:44 | theblatte | lo everybody |
| 15:10:54 | jhMikeS | yes, I know. would want to emphasize tiny for that. |
| 15:11:36 | jhMikeS | but they didn't so just gotta bit bang it. seems simple enough. |
| 15:12:09 | amiconn | YOu need to switch between in & out, and the line has a pullup |
| 15:12:20 | jhMikeS | just have to issue insruction 0x33 |
| 15:12:26 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 15:13:25 | amiconn | So I'd keep GPIO_OUT bit 22 0 all the time, and only switch GPIO_ENABLE |
| 15:14:07 | amiconn | Very similar to i2c in fact, just that it depends on timing istead of a clock line |
| 15:17:10 | | Join microw [0] (i=microw@218.18.132.178) |
| 15:17:18 | | Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 15:17:57 | | Part microw |
| 15:19:28 | | Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-18-38-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 15:19:41 | | Quit Bjoern-Erik (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 15:22:17 | jhMikeS | that's why I don't wanna deal with variable cpu speed. could read it once during a period when the cpu is already guaranteed boosted |
| 15:28:37 | jhMikeS | of course no interrupts either to mess it up |
| 15:29:17 | amiconn | Hmm, seems that backdrop bug isn't reported on flyspray |
| 15:30:11 | amiconn | Ok, committed |
| 15:31:28 | jhMikeS | new bmp loader? will check it out. |
| 15:33:33 | amiconn | Hope it doesn't break on colour arm targets. |
| 15:34:02 | jhMikeS | so I'll see my 24-bit backdrop dithered to 565? |
| 15:34:06 | amiconn | It shouldn't as the loader part is the same for all targets now (everything is converted to XRGB8888 first) |
| 15:34:09 | amiconn | yes |
| 15:34:24 | | Quit Gnelik ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 15:35:13 | jhMikeS | alpha channel? |
| 15:35:32 | amiconn | ? |
| 15:35:57 | jhMikeS | what's the extra 8 for? just unused atm? |
| 15:36:20 | amiconn | Unused, as defined by 32 bit BMP |
| 15:36:45 | amiconn | The new loader doesn't use more ram than the old one |
| 15:37:02 | jhMikeS | how is the backdrop allocated and when? |
| 15:37:08 | amiconn | We need to reserved LCD_WIDTH*4 bytes anyway for a line buffer, because of 32 bit bmp |
| 15:37:20 | amiconn | These buffers are on stack |
| 15:37:48 | jhMikeS | The line makes sense on the stack but where and how is the bitmap stored? |
| 15:37:49 | amiconn | The backdrop buffer is static afaik. Native format of course |
| 15:38:13 | theblatte | hi there, i'm trying to install the rockbox bootloader on my h320 (purchased yesterday :p), but it's a US one, and i keep upgrading to the patched firmware with no result :/ |
| 15:38:18 | jhMikeS | It could use buffer_alloc but would have to use audio_get_buffer first |
| 15:38:22 | amiconn | That's outside of the loader. The loader just gets passed a pointer to a buffer and the maximum size |
| 15:38:37 | theblatte | well, there is one result: it now says "Can't Found DRM key" on bootup |
| 15:38:49 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Why? |
| 15:39:06 | jhMikeS | if no backdrop, no buffer. use it for audio |
| 15:39:13 | amiconn | Either you reserve it all the time, then a static buffer is easier |
| 15:39:32 | amiconn | Or you reserve it only when there is a backdrop - but then loading a backdrop would stop playback |
| 15:39:47 | jhMikeS | true, but it's pretty easy and reliable to use memory now |
| 15:40:02 | | Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) |
| 15:40:24 | jhMikeS | it's the playback stopping that I don't like but would only happen one time. then the buffer can be used over and over. |
| 15:40:45 | amiconn | gtg |
| 15:40:57 | jhMikeS | later...I'm going to bed |
| 15:41:05 | wehn | theblatte, do you have rockbox (as well as the bootloader) installed? with only the bootloader, it just starts stock firmware. |
| 15:41:17 | theblatte | wehn: yes i installed rockbox too |
| 15:41:42 | spug | with only the bootloader, it also just starts stock firmware |
| 15:41:54 | spug | so both the bootloader and rockbox have to be installed correctly |
| 15:42:02 | theblatte | after compiling cvs, i did make fullzip and then cd /mnt/iriver && unzip |
| 15:42:49 | wehn | and now you have a.rockbox directory and iriver.rockbox? (i think it's called) |
| 15:43:21 | theblatte | hum, just in case i'm wrong, i'm not supposed to see anything new if only the bootloader is installed? |
| 15:43:25 | theblatte | wehn: yes |
| 15:44:13 | theblatte | i thought the new bootloader was supposed to write something e.g. rockbox before booting even stock firmware |
| 15:44:23 | wehn | theblatte, yep. with only the bootloader you probably won't see any difference, appart from the bootloader usb mode (which doesn't work yet IIRC) |
| 15:44:34 | theblatte | ok |
| 15:44:55 | * | theblatte checks whether rockbox is correctly installed or not |
| 15:45:32 | theblatte | i do have a .rockbox directory at the root of the iriver |
| 15:46:12 | wehn | and the iriver.rockbox there, or in root? |
| 15:46:26 | theblatte | in root |
| 15:46:27 | Soap | six of one, half dozen of the other. |
| 15:47:15 | wehn | so with the player off, try plugging in a usb cable. it should fireup and say something about usb bootlo0ader mode in a small font |
| 15:47:37 | theblatte | k |
| 15:47:42 | | Join Rondom [0] (n=Rondom@p54AEE3AA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:48:15 | wehn | (thats just to test if it was flashed correctly with rb bootloader) |
| 15:48:22 | theblatte | wehn: nope, it just says "connected data" with the usual picture |
| 15:49:00 | wehn | sounds like you need to try repatching the firmware with the rockbox bootloader, then flashing again. |
| 15:49:08 | | Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 15:49:18 | theblatte | well, the firmware in / is already the patched one |
| 15:49:25 | theblatte | i checked the md5 |
| 15:49:53 | wehn | but if it was, i think it wouldn't use the iriver firmware in response to plugging in a usb cable when off |
| 15:50:00 | theblatte | i saw on the forum that sometimes you need to flash twice to make it effective, but now it's something like my 5th try :) |
| 15:50:01 | wehn | ? |
| 15:50:40 | theblatte | i agree, i don't think the bootloader is properly installed |
| 15:50:53 | wehn | sure the patched firmware has the filename the iriver flasher expects? maybe it's just reflashing the base, rather that patched firmware |
| 15:51:15 | theblatte | hum, it's h300.hex, as said in the manual |
| 15:53:07 | wehn | hmm, tricky. don't know of any particular other issues you may have run into... |
| 15:53:07 | | Quit Kitt0s ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 15:53:25 | theblatte | okay :/ |
| 15:53:34 | * | theblatte retries the firmware upgrade |
| 15:54:11 | theblatte | wehn: on the rockbox forum, there's a topic in which a guy explains he had to flash the firmware twice to make the upgrade effective |
| 15:54:30 | wehn | i guess you may try a fresh from virgin firmware, patch (use the exe patcher), compare md5s. delete virgin fw file, and patch new fw. |
| 15:54:54 | spug | dumb question: you have performed the firmware upgrade from inside the iriver firmware? |
| 15:55:09 | spug | i.e flash |
| 15:55:35 | theblatte | hum, i did "firmware upgrade" in the iriver menu |
| 15:56:52 | wehn | (not a suggestion, just a question) can you use international firmware on a american h300? |
| 15:57:17 | theblatte | wehn: i've got the same question :) |
| 15:57:29 | theblatte | on the iriver website, they say you can't though |
| 15:57:38 | Soap | you can, but you lose the ability to play protected WMA |
| 15:57:44 | wehn | i've got an intertnational one. |
| 15:57:52 | | Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") |
| 15:58:19 | theblatte | hum, maybe i'll try to patch with a international firmware then |
| 15:58:25 | * | wehn has never seen a protected WMA in the wild |
| 15:58:35 | theblatte | as i really don't care about protected wma ;) |
| 15:59:24 | Gnelik | Litle question, can't we port png and jpg libs to rockbox |
| 15:59:44 | Gnelik | and allow their using all ower firmware |
| 15:59:45 | Gnelik | ? |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:13 | spug | theblatte: your H300 is american? |
| 16:00:14 | Bagder | we can |
| 16:00:57 | Gnelik | but? |
| 16:01:13 | theblatte | spug: yes |
| 16:01:51 | theblatte | iriver.com says "-. Device purchased in the US is NOT compatible with this firmware."... |
| 16:02:10 | spug | that's just their official stance |
| 16:02:16 | spug | you can use any firmware on it |
| 16:02:17 | theblatte | k |
| 16:02:35 | spug | but you'll lose the ability to play protected WMA files |
| 16:02:35 | spug | forever |
| 16:02:40 | | Quit NickDe (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 16:03:03 | theblatte | let's go for the 1.29 then |
| 16:03:20 | spug | there should be no problems with patching the american firmware with the rockbox bootloader, so i'm not sure if you'll have more luck with the international firmware ... but go ahead and try if you don't need DRM support |
| 16:03:31 | Soap | a lot of people on Mystic River swear by the Korean firmware. |
| 16:03:38 | theblatte | spug: i think i've already lost it anyway: since my first trying to upgrade the firmware, the box prompts "can't found drm key" at bootup |
| 16:03:47 | spug | ah |
| 16:03:49 | | Join NickDe [0] (n=nicholas@198.7.232.64) |
| 16:03:49 | spug | okay |
| 16:04:11 | theblatte | i'm trying the korean one right now |
| 16:04:41 | | Quit SUSaiyan (Connection reset by peer) |
| 16:05:15 | | Join SUSaiyan [0] (n=susaiyan@cc84863-b.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) |
| 16:05:50 | theblatte | done patching, md5 ok |
| 16:06:02 | Gnelik | Another question what fo do you put bmp's into code? |
| 16:09:01 | dan_a | Gnelik: I think that if we put jpg and png libs in, it would increase the size of the core, which would take away RAM that we use for buffering files (to use the HD as little as possible - so saving battery) |
| 16:09:34 | theblatte | hum, firmware upgrade worked! |
| 16:09:45 | theblatte | it now says version is 1.29k |
| 16:09:46 | dan_a | There are some bmp's in the code so that they can be displayed even when we can't talk to the disk |
| 16:09:53 | theblatte | but still no rockbox... |
| 16:10:14 | theblatte | urgh, the menu are in korean now |
| 16:10:22 | Soap | ok, well after doing any firmware upgrade you need to reinstall the bootloader, do you not on Iriver? |
| 16:11:25 | theblatte | that already was the patched firmware, so the bootloader is inculded, right? |
| 16:13:13 | theblatte | included* |
| 16:13:23 | Gnelik | dan_a:sansa question: does it execute main method or no? |
| 16:14:49 | Gnelik | Very last |
| 16:14:54 | dan_a | Gnelik: It isn't. It's obviously getting stuck in crt0-pp.S, but I can't find where |
| 16:15:04 | | Quit _ke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 16:15:05 | | Quit mirak (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 16:15:30 | Gnelik | huh, I'm not so stupid that i think. |
| 16:16:28 | Gnelik | dan_a: but in BOOTLOADER mode it does, so we need to find thing that it does there |
| 16:16:49 | dan_a | That's right. |
| 16:20:04 | | Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-41.net-81-220-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:20:46 | Gnelik | bl main |
| 16:20:53 | Gnelik | it seem to run main |
| 16:21:00 | theblatte | actually, i used the intructions from the wiki (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBoot), is it allright? |
| 16:21:30 | dan_a | Gnelik: It *should* run main, but for some reason it is not getting that far. |
| 16:21:49 | theblatte | and i'm running linux, so i went through the descramble/mkboot/scramble thing |
| 16:30:33 | | Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484996A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:30:55 | | Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 16:31:06 | | Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 16:31:13 | | Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 16:34:01 | | Quit [g2] ("Leaving") |
| 16:40:06 | | Join [g2] [0] (n=g2@nslu2-linux/g2) |
| 16:47:46 | | Quit pagefault (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 16:47:53 | | Join KN|stiff [0] (n=phhome@p54B7DDBE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:51:28 | | Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) |
| 16:51:32 | | Join PaulPosition [0] (n=noneofye@modemcable156.246-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:54:30 | | Join matsl [0] (n=matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) |
| 16:54:47 | | Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) |
| 16:57:34 | | Join jborn_ [0] (n=jborn@dsl017-022-247.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:57:34 | | Quit wehn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 17:00 |
| 17:01:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:02:12 | | Join RogerBacon [0] (n=RogerBac@bas3-sherbrooke40-1177645788.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:06:19 | | Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) |
| 17:06:56 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 17:09:16 | | Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) |
| 17:09:54 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 17:10:43 | dan_a | OK, I'm confused. On the Sansa, trying to make a normal Rockbox build the boot process fails in crt0-pp.S - it dies trying to do "b pad_skip" |
| 17:11:16 | | Quit secleinteer (Excess Flood) |
| 17:11:53 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=scl@70.230.161.101) |
| 17:13:27 | | Quit jborn__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 17:17:04 | | Quit theblatte ("leaving") |
| 17:17:13 | | Join |Rincewind|^afk [0] (i=uoP1W69y@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 17:18:46 | | Nick |Rincewind|^afk is now known as |Rincewind| (i=uoP1W69y@nat-wh-1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 17:23:27 | Gnelik | dan_a:Maybe |
| 17:23:35 | Gnelik | Chip cpecific? |
| 17:24:28 | dan_a | It shouldn't be - it's just a branch, which shouldn't be complicated at all! |
| 17:25:11 | Gnelik | but it is |
| 17:26:45 | dan_a | Oh, wait - there's a load of rubbish being added into the code |
| 17:28:20 | Gnelik | In crt0-pp? |
| 17:29:13 | dan_a | In the compiled binary, there's things that shouldn't be there. |
| 17:29:43 | Gnelik | Maybe we didn't defined something? |
| 17:30:14 | dan_a | No, it's not that. It's to do with making the MI4 file |
| 17:32:18 | Gnelik | mi4code bug? |
| 17:32:45 | dan_a | Gnelik: In crt0-pp, where it says ".space 50*4", change that to ".space 100*4" |
| 17:33:02 | Gnelik | thats all? |
| 17:34:03 | dan_a | That's not the right way to fix it, but it gets things a bit further along |
| 17:34:25 | Gnelik | maybe make a ¹øàâóà, |
| 17:34:31 | Gnelik | #ifdef |
| 17:34:33 | Gnelik | ? |
| 17:34:49 | dan_a | I think so |
| 17:36:20 | Gnelik | Wow |
| 17:36:31 | Gnelik | I had a ellow screen |
| 17:36:35 | Gnelik | :) |
| 17:37:14 | dan_a | :) I've got a white screen at the moment - I still don't think it's getting to main() though |
| 17:38:01 | Gnelik | Why then we have different colour? |
| 17:38:18 | Gnelik | I aded a lot of different lcd code in main method |
| 17:38:46 | | Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:39:03 | dan_a | I've changed main too - to make it do a lot less. |
| 17:41:33 | dan_a | It's being very strange - it might be getting to main, I'm not sure yet. I'm just doing some more tests. |
| 17:41:58 | | Quit daurn|laptop (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 17:42:06 | | Quit daurnimator (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 17:49:17 | | Quit _Veseliq_ (Remote closed the connection) |
| 17:52:08 | | Quit Psiuyo (Client Quit) |
| 17:52:22 | Gnelik | post your progress in e200 thread, gona go now |
| 17:52:41 | | Join Psiuyo [0] (n=me@S0106000f66cdc7db.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 17:52:49 | | Join _Veseliq_ [0] (n=veseliq@195.85.215.210) |
| 17:53:06 | | Quit Gnelik ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 17:54:12 | | Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) |
| 17:55:04 | | Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) |
| 17:59:43 | | Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF75B0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:00 |
| 18:04:42 | | Join Blackfish` [0] (n=asd@p548359F8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:05:23 | | Quit Soap ("Leaving") |
| 18:07:09 | | Quit mirak (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 18:07:57 | | Join TeaSeaLancs [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.172.236) |
| 18:08:58 | | Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@cpe-65-189-128-141.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 18:09:21 | | Join powr-toc [0] (n=r@84-51-129-124.rickmo645.adsl.metronet.co.uk) |
| 18:10:21 | | Join Id2ndR [0] (n=ubuntu@laf31-2-62-34-88-193.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 18:12:13 | | Join GreyFoux [0] (n=greyfoux@APoitiers-256-1-14-248.w90-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:14:56 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 18:15:53 | | Quit |AhIoRoS| ("Abandonando, see you http://ahioros.homelinux.net") |
| 18:17:20 | | Quit amiconn (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:17:20 | NSplit | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 18:17:20 | | Quit rigel (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:17:20 | | Quit crwlll (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:17:20 | | Quit hcs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:17:20 | | Quit jaebird (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:17:21 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 18:19:17 | NHeal | kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
| 18:19:17 | NJoin | rigel [0] (n=rigel@dsl092-248-194.sfo4.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:20:38 | | Quit Blackfish (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 18:21:55 | NJoin | crwlll [0] (n=crawlie@kekkone.kekkola.jyu.fi) |
| 18:22:01 | | Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 18:23:52 | | Join Kitt0s [0] (n=Kaa@87.68.3.32.cable.012.net.il) |
| 18:28:01 | | Join hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) |
| 18:28:01 | NJoin | jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) |
| 18:29:03 | | Join Criamos [0] (n=Criamos@p5493402F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:34:59 | | Quit hcs (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:34:59 | | Quit jaebird (kornbluth.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
| 18:35:03 | | Join Steve132 [0] (i=84aa2957@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 18:35:14 | Steve132 | Het |
| 18:35:16 | Steve132 | Hey |
| 18:35:21 | NJoin | jaebird [0] (n=jae@53-89.netblk-69-41-89.coolaccess.net) |
| 18:35:28 | Steve132 | Does anyone have any sources from iPodlinux? |
| 18:35:38 | NJoin | hcs [0] (n=agashlin@rockbox/contributor/hcs) |
| 18:35:38 | Steve132 | any older ones? |
| 18:35:57 | n1s | Why do you come here to ask about ipl? |
| 18:36:27 | | Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 18:37:22 | Steve132 | 'Cause typically I get a better answer in here about things than I do from any of the ipl team. |
| 18:37:24 | | Quit powr-toc ("Leaving") |
| 18:37:57 | Steve132 | I wanted to read the source of their video player module...and it seems to have been removed from both cvs and subversion. |
| 18:38:41 | Steve132 | If it's off topic, my apologies. ignore it and I will go look elsewhere |
| 18:39:48 | | Join TeaSea [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.12.210) |
| 18:40:30 | | Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host55-142.pool8250.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:41:33 | | Join Ribs [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) |
| 18:52:31 | | Quit TeaSeaLancs (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 18:52:45 | | Join j1mc [0] (n=j1mc@adsl-75-22-198-27.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 19:00 |
| 19:01:57 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:03:36 | | Quit TeaSea (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:05:26 | | Quit midgey34 () |
| 19:06:49 | | Join mirak [0] (n=mirak@ip-41.net-81-220-108.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:10:09 | | Join amiconn_ [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 19:10:40 | | Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) |
| 19:11:52 | | Quit Id2ndR ("Parti") |
| 19:13:51 | | Quit Steve132 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
| 19:17:15 | | Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 19:25:52 | | Quit RogerBacon ("Quitte") |
| 19:28:37 | | Quit amiconn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:28:37 | | Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 19:35:52 | | Join pagefault [0] (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) |
| 19:43:20 | | Join Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@241.80-202-109.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:44:01 | | Nick Ribs2 is now known as Ribs (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) |
| 19:44:15 | | Join Gnelik [0] (n=Miranda@193.110.17.4) |
| 19:48:03 | | Quit Arathis ("[rl_bot quit]") |
| 19:48:11 | | Quit anathema (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
| 19:50:21 | | Quit Febs (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 19:51:14 | | Join TerrorByte [0] (i=4889bb7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ginnypig.net/session) |
| 19:52:08 | Gnelik | dan_a: where does it hang's up now? |
| 19:53:37 | dan_a | Gnelik: It's getting to main() - but something is wrong in there. I'm taking a bit of a break at the moment. |
| 19:56:17 | Gnelik | We cant draw to lcd now? |
| 19:56:55 | dan_a | it doesn't look like it. |
| 19:57:28 | Gnelik | and sroll backlight isnt working to |
| 19:57:52 | dan_a | we can turn that on and off in main() |
| 19:58:23 | Gnelik | Greate, then we can begin debuging |
| 19:59:56 | Gnelik | dan_a: cant we just init lcd befour all, like we do in bootloader |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:04 | Gnelik | and use it for debuging |
| 20:00:10 | dan_a | you can try that |
| 20:00:12 | | Quit TerrorByte ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 20:00:12 | | Quit GreyFoux ("Le vrai danger, c'est quand les hommes penseront comme les ordinateurs") |
| 20:00:44 | Gnelik | dan_a:I'l do it but tomorow |
| 20:00:56 | dan_a | cool :) |
| 20:01:01 | Gnelik | its 22:00 at my place now |
| 20:01:32 | Gnelik | bye |
| 20:01:37 | dan_a | See you later |
| 20:01:42 | | Quit Gnelik (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:13:14 | | Quit n1s ("Leaving.") |
| 20:13:41 | | Part j1mc ("Leaving") |
| 20:14:43 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
| 20:17:07 | | Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:27:54 | | Join Ribs2 [0] (n=freenode@91.84.8.218) |
| 20:29:16 | | Quit lee-qid ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com") |
| 20:32:39 | | Join Febs [0] (n=chatzill@207-172-204-33.c3-0.rdl-ubr4.trpr-rdl.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 20:33:03 | Soap | I updated http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus to reflect the fact that pp5020 iPods are not stable, but am lacking in details if someone has anything to add... |
| 20:35:12 | | Quit Ribs (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
| 20:40:12 | | Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-144-237-235.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:40:27 | Terinjokes | is it possible to have more then one IDv3 tag in a file? |
| 20:41:52 | Soap | I've seen more than one tag in a file before. It is not proper. |
| 20:43:03 | Terinjokes | will rockbox read them? ie, i have audio books split into chapters, if i combinde the file into one, it keeps all the id tags, so will rockbox read and display each one, or only the first |
| 20:44:12 | Soap | that I don't know. A proper mp3 joiner should strip the metadata when doing that anyways. |
| 20:44:36 | Terinjokes | i use terminal, so it just combinds the files ;-) not very proper ;-) |
| 20:44:41 | Soap | since the ID3v1 tag is at the front and the ID3v2 tag is at the end (or do I have that reversed). |
| 20:45:09 | rasher | That's reversed, yes |
| 20:45:20 | rasher | (v2 can be at the end, but it's rarely done) |
| 20:45:40 | Terinjokes | hrm, i'll just see for myself ;-) |
| 20:45:43 | | Part Terinjokes |
| 20:46:20 | | Quit rigel (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:48:40 | rasher | You can also have a v2 both at the start and end of the file, but that's just looking for trouble |
| 20:49:47 | | Quit Wett (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 20:54:25 | | Quit anathema () |
| 20:56:53 | | Join yipe [0] (n=yipe@12-218-163-227.client.mchsi.com) |
| 20:57:43 | | Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) |
| 20:57:50 | yipe | is the daily build what your average user should be using, or are there more stable releases somewhere? it seems like yesterday's build is totally unstable, I can't listen to music for more than five minutes without it freezing up |
| 21:00 |
| 21:02:00 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:03:27 | | Quit |AhIoRoS| (Remote closed the connection) |
| 21:04:14 | | Quit KN|stiff (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 21:08:13 | | Join |AhIoRoS| [0] (n=ahioros@201.224.122.227) |
| 21:08:52 | spug | yipe: the daily build is the most stable for non-Archos players |
| 21:09:36 | spug | however, they still might be unstable, like you experienced with yesterday's build, because bugs might be introduced every day, and fixed every day |
| 21:10:51 | Soap | what device yipe? |
| 21:12:05 | yipe | ipod |
| 21:12:12 | Soap | which generation?> |
| 21:12:15 | yipe | video |
| 21:12:38 | Soap | really? Total freeze on music playback? What type of audio files? |
| 21:12:46 | yipe | mp3 |
| 21:13:29 | yipe | the playlist keeps playing, but I can no longer affect anything, I can't change the music or look through menus or turn up the volume or any of that |
| 21:13:37 | Soap | Try a different daily build. I've never had a freeze during playback on my 5th generation. |
| 21:13:53 | Soap | and you are sure the hold button isn't (partially) on? |
| 21:13:54 | yipe | the only thing that works is the hard reset from holing menu and select |
| 21:13:59 | yipe | positive |
| 21:14:27 | yipe | oh, the backlight will come on as well, if I press something, the blacklight comes on, but nothing else happens |
| 21:15:07 | Soap | So if you press menu twice nothing happens after the backlight comes on the first time you press menu? |
| 21:16:38 | yipe | yeah |
| 21:17:31 | yipe | I'm putting today's build on it |
| 21:17:53 | yipe | it seems lately like the builds have been a bit worse everyday, for the past week or so |
| 21:18:46 | yipe | http://webcast.berkeley.edu/courses/archive.php?seriesid=1906978333 |
| 21:18:53 | yipe | those are the files I'm trying to listen to |
| 21:21:21 | | Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) |
| 21:22:57 | | Quit pagefault (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 21:27:03 | | Join Martian67_ [0] (n=Martian6@S0106001839504413.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 21:27:21 | Martian67_ | any idea how to fix a rovckbox reboot loop on an ipod? |
| 21:29:18 | Martian67_ | it fails to load rockbox |
| 21:29:26 | Martian67_ | and then trys to load apple firmware |
| 21:29:34 | Martian67_ | ad nasuem |
| 21:29:53 | Martian67_ | is anyone at all awake? |
| 21:30:34 | yipe | I had that problem once |
| 21:30:43 | Martian67_ | what did you do? |
| 21:31:40 | | Join CriamosAndy [0] (n=Criamos@p54932A19.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:32:09 | Martian67_ | yipe? |
| 21:32:11 | yipe | basically what had happened to me was that I totally borked the install, my solution was to use apple's itunes to restore my ipod to it's original state, then reinstall rockbox |
| 21:32:39 | yipe | Martian67_, I'm disabled, and can't type very fast, please be patient with me |
| 21:32:39 | Martian67_ | but my ipod wont go into usb mode |
| 21:32:49 | | Join Strogg [0] (n=user@205.150.199.219) |
| 21:33:16 | Martian67_ | because it dosent get past the rockbox bootloader |
| 21:33:32 | yipe | oh, did you try plugging in the USB cable, and then holding menu and the center button, until it reboots? it should at that point reboot into the disk mode |
| 21:33:56 | Martian67_ | ah |
| 21:33:58 | Martian67_ | thnx |
| 21:33:58 | yipe | or you could hold play and center, and that should force disk mode |
| 21:34:05 | yipe | during the reboot |
| 21:34:18 | yipe | stick around and tell me if it works |
| 21:34:23 | Martian67_ | yep |
| 21:34:31 | Martian67_ | i have the orginal firmware image already |
| 21:34:41 | Martian67_ | thanks a ton for that combo yipe |
| 21:34:59 | yipe | is it working now? |
| 21:35:14 | Martian67_ | no |
| 21:35:17 | Martian67_ | but i got it into disk mode |
| 21:35:21 | Martian67_ | i can fix it now :) |
| 21:35:22 | yipe | oh good |
| 21:35:30 | Martian67_ | i was scared that wouldnt be possible :( |
| 21:35:41 | Martian67_ | and it would keep rebooting forever :P |
| 21:35:42 | yipe | those are two I use a lot, center + menu to reboot, and center + play to get disk mode |
| 21:35:49 | yipe | I was worried when it happened too |
| 21:36:12 | | Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p54965C33.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:36:23 | Martian67_ | all is well now :) |
| 21:36:27 | yipe | hey soap, I loaded the newest daily build, and I froze up again |
| 21:36:36 | yipe | Martian67_, I'm glad ت |
| 21:36:43 | Martian67_ | whoa |
| 21:36:45 | Martian67_ | what is that |
| 21:36:47 | yipe | the podcasts from my school seem to be giving me a problem |
| 21:36:55 | Martian67_ | ت |
| 21:37:02 | Martian67_ | thats messing up my xchat |
| 21:37:17 | yipe | oh, that's the yipe-ological symbol of happiness |
| 21:37:47 | yipe | it's arabic, two dots over a curve, in other words a smiley face |
| 21:37:57 | yipe | it makes a soft t in arabic |
| 21:38:15 | | Quit Criamos (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:38:39 | Martian67_ | i only see one :/ |
| 21:38:55 | Strogg | Can you compile a plugin by itself and copy it over to your player or do you have to build an entire firmware image? |
| 21:38:55 | Martian67_ | xchat sucks at unicodee |
| 21:39:46 | yipe | which linux are you using? I use ubuntu which uses UTF-8 for everything as far as I know |
| 21:39:53 | Martian67_ | i dont :) |
| 21:40:03 | Martian67_ | i use slackware >_> |
| 21:40:23 | yipe | I know I have a friend who uses slackware, and he has to change over to UTF-8 as soon as he installs |
| 21:41:18 | | Join perpleXa [0] (n=perpleXa@unaffiliated/perplexa) |
| 21:41:42 | Martian67_ | yipe: how do i get out of diskmode? |
| 21:41:50 | yipe | I like ubuntu because I work with several languages, and it just makes everything much easier for me to use a linux that expects that as a default, as opposed to having to teach linux to think in other languages before I can do anything |
| 21:42:06 | yipe | center + menu to reboot again, after you've unmounted of course |
| 21:42:13 | Martian67_ | no dice |
| 21:42:24 | Martian67_ | nm |
| 21:42:26 | yipe | did you remove the cable? |
| 21:42:44 | Martian67_ | haha |
| 21:42:48 | Martian67_ | rockbox works :) |
| 21:42:53 | yipe | yay! |
| 21:44:12 | Martian67_ | its really not so great however :( |
| 21:44:16 | Martian67_ | how do i play muzak |
| 21:44:50 | yipe | have you never used rockbox before? |
| 21:45:01 | Martian67_ | nope |
| 21:45:11 | yipe | use the center button and the wheel to look through the menus, find your music, and hit center or play |
| 21:45:25 | Martian67_ | all i have is |
| 21:45:29 | Martian67_ | Calendars |
| 21:45:31 | Martian67_ | Contacts |
| 21:45:33 | Martian67_ | Notes |
| 21:45:35 | Martian67_ | Rockbox |
| 21:45:52 | yipe | okay, you have to load your music onto your rockbox |
| 21:46:09 | Martian67_ | i have music on there |
| 21:46:17 | yipe | reconnect the cable, and just click and drag your music from your hard drive, to the ipod |
| 21:46:33 | yipe | the music loaded with the ipod software isn't accessible with rockbox |
| 21:47:01 | yipe | well... it is, but not in a useful way, apple's firmware renames all the files with names like "ddf7djhy3" |
| 21:47:18 | | Join EnterUserName [0] (n=dave@pdpc/supporter/student/GeekZoid) |
| 21:47:19 | Martian67_ | yes but im not even getting that :/ |
| 21:47:19 | Strogg | ironically enough, that's exactly why I installed rockbox |
| 21:47:41 | yipe | load it again! |
| 21:48:04 | yipe | Strogg, it's getting difficult for me to type, can you help him? |
| 21:48:06 | Martian67_ | ah i see |
| 21:48:14 | Martian67_ | yipe: got it |
| 21:48:18 | Martian67_ | does it support folders? |
| 21:48:25 | Strogg | Martian67_: yeah |
| 21:48:47 | Strogg | Martian67_: you can treat it like a usb disk now and just drag over whatever you want |
| 21:48:56 | Martian67_ | cool |
| 21:49:03 | Strogg | then you want to play music.. just navigate to that directory and select a song.. |
| 21:49:17 | Martian67_ | much more logical than shitty intunes db |
| 21:49:20 | Martian67_ | *itunes |
| 21:49:29 | Martian67_ | i heard rockbox has issues with using alot of batery |
| 21:49:30 | Strogg | much more free |
| 21:49:30 | Martian67_ | true? |
| 21:49:50 | Strogg | I wouldn't say alot more. I still get decent battery life |
| 21:50:02 | Strogg | the apple firmware will have better batterylife though |
| 21:50:20 | Strogg | they don't want to tell anyone their code-fu that they used to get the good battery life out of the hardware |
| 21:50:26 | Martian67_ | how much "better"? |
| 21:50:40 | Martian67_ | b/c i have 5.5g |
| 21:50:44 | Martian67_ | i cant switch between the 2 :( |
| 21:50:59 | Strogg | ohh.. hrm I have an ipod disk version.. 30g |
| 21:51:34 | Strogg | still.. I plug in my ipod every other day I guess.. |
| 21:51:58 | | Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
| 21:52:04 | Strogg | the only thing that really eats the crap out of the battery is playing games. hehe |
| 21:52:25 | | Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF62D2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:53:54 | Martian67_ | heh |
| 21:53:54 | Martian67_ | :) |
| 21:54:05 | yipe | I disagree actually |
| 21:54:24 | yipe | I get battery life that's shorter by an hour or two actually |
| 21:54:24 | Strogg | hrmmm about? |
| 21:55:01 | yipe | when I switched to rockbox I also had to start taking my USB cable to school, so I could recharge during free time |
| 21:55:06 | Martian67_ | does rockbox support ipod remotes? |
| 21:55:49 | Strogg | yipe: rough estimate.. I'd say I get hrmmm 4-5 hours battery life |
| 21:56:00 | Strogg | hard to estimate.. maybe as much as 6-8 |
| 21:56:01 | | Join manisavirus [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 21:56:06 | yipe | that's about what I would say |
| 21:56:24 | Martian67_ | nope no remote support :'( |
| 21:56:52 | Strogg | it fits in your pocket.. what use is a remote? |
| 21:57:06 | Martian67_ | holy jeusus it makes the ipod ALOT louder |
| 21:57:48 | * | Strogg updates his firmware |
| 21:57:51 | Martian67_ | Strogg: i was just wondering :( |
| 21:58:50 | yipe | more important then it fitting in your pocket, you can't use it unless you're connected to it with a short length of wire, it's impossible to get away from it |
| 21:59:59 | yipe | why would you need a remote or waldo to control something that's already always within a few feet of you? |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:20 | Strogg | I suppose you could plug it into your stereo.. |
| 22:00:27 | yipe | .... you win :P |
| 22:00:40 | Strogg | but then.. that's what my computer is for. hehe |
| 22:00:43 | | Join mrfatcatt [0] (i=mrfatcat@ool-457b75a6.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:01:12 | mrfatcatt | guys i have installed rockbox on my iriver h340, its great but i want to see my album art when i play a song...what do i have to do to get it going??????? |
| 22:01:42 | markun | mrfatcatt: I think there are some unofficial builds in the forum with album art support |
| 22:02:31 | spug | or you can compile your own build with the patch included |
| 22:02:41 | spug | there's a compiling guide on the forums |
| 22:02:57 | Strogg | I've been working on compiling lately.. haven't had a lot of luck yet |
| 22:03:36 | mrfatcatt | i dnt think i want to compile |
| 22:04:14 | spug | then you'll have to find an unofficial guide that includes the patch |
| 22:04:22 | spug | check out the unofficial builds section of the forums |
| 22:04:34 | spug | what device do you have? |
| 22:06:42 | mrfatcatt | h340 iriver |
| 22:07:15 | spug | oh yeah, sorry, i missed it when you mentioned it up there |
| 22:07:26 | | Join anathema [0] (n=none@cpc3-bele3-0-0-cust660.belf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:07:59 | blue_lizard | mrfatcatt: http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=38915 |
| 22:09:07 | | Join RoC_MM [0] (i=dragon@c-66-177-58-16.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:09:12 | | Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:09:55 | | Quit RoC_MM (Client Quit) |
| 22:10:24 | mrfatcatt | thanks |
| 22:10:43 | Soap | Martian67_: despite what yipe told you, you can access all the songs iTunes put on your iPod. Read the manual about tagcache. |
| 22:10:52 | blue_lizard | of course you maybe need the extra and the fonts packages |
| 22:10:55 | Soap | it is a database of songs based on their tags, works well. |
| 22:10:59 | Martian67_ | Soap: will latest build work on a 5.5? |
| 22:11:01 | blue_lizard | and a wps too |
| 22:11:03 | yipe | oh that's right, I'm sorry |
| 22:11:16 | Martian67_ | or do i need to add 5.5 patches>? |
| 22:11:25 | Soap | Martian67_: There is a thread in the forums:new ports section about the 5.5g. |
| 22:14:12 | mrfatcatt | hehe so many builds |
| 22:14:21 | mrfatcatt | i guess i goto the 6ths page to get the latest build |
| 22:14:35 | Martian67_ | how do i use plugins ? |
| 22:14:41 | blue_lizard | mrfatcatt: wrong |
| 22:14:52 | blue_lizard | New version will always be here |
| 22:14:59 | blue_lizard | click on that and you have it |
| 22:15:38 | blue_lizard | 2.9.35 is the newest |
| 22:15:39 | | Quit mirak (Remote closed the connection) |
| 22:15:58 | Martian67_ | oh nm |
| 22:16:00 | mrfatcatt | good to know |
| 22:16:48 | | Quit perpleXa ("Leaving") |
| 22:17:35 | | Quit Siku () |
| 22:21:49 | mrfatcatt | how do u run a .patch file? |
| 22:22:26 | blue_lizard | we simply dont run .patch files |
| 22:22:45 | mrfatcatt | apply then |
| 22:23:03 | blue_lizard | patch -p0 < $filename |
| 22:23:08 | blue_lizard | sometimes p1 |
| 22:23:33 | mrfatcatt | where do i type that ..sorry im new at this |
| 22:24:02 | blue_lizard | is the build i gave you not good enough? |
| 22:24:29 | mrfatcatt | i just installed it |
| 22:25:03 | blue_lizard | it already has all the patches that you need |
| 22:25:17 | Strogg | hrmmm weird.. the CVS is missing a couple directories that the daily tarball has |
| 22:25:24 | blue_lizard | patches are not for you, believe me |
| 22:25:26 | Strogg | no wonder I couldn't get it to build.. |
| 22:26:09 | Bagder | Strogg: really? |
| 22:26:16 | Bagder | I find that hard to believe |
| 22:26:25 | Bagder | what dirs? |
| 22:26:30 | mrfatcatt | where my files dont show but the folders so, mabey i have to rebuild the tag cache |
| 22:26:37 | Strogg | Bagder: uisimulator |
| 22:26:52 | | Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484996A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:26:53 | Bagder | then you checked out a module without the sim |
| 22:27:11 | Strogg | also bootloader, flash, gdb as well.. |
| 22:27:16 | Bagder | the same |
| 22:27:27 | Bagder | all those are in CVS |
| 22:27:32 | Strogg | no worries.. I just copied the cvs command from the wiki.. it's not my SCS of choice.. |
| 22:27:38 | Bagder | as the daily builds are built plainly from the CVS sources |
| 22:28:46 | Strogg | " cvs -z3 -d:pserver:username@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co rockbox", right? |
| 22:29:07 | rasher | That gives you enough to build rockbox on target |
| 22:29:08 | Bagder | if you want the lot I think rockbox-devel is the module for you |
| 22:29:10 | Bagder | iirc |
| 22:29:25 | Strogg | Ahh.. ok. that would explain it |
| 22:29:45 | Strogg | I'm just trying to get familiar with it all.. eventually I want to write a viewer plugin |
| 22:39:00 | mrfatcatt | i put in the lastest kosh build but cant see album art..anyone have any ideas? |
| 22:40:11 | spug | are you using a wps that supports album art? |
| 22:40:40 | mrfatcatt | i ran icatcher theme |
| 22:41:01 | mrfatcatt | installed rb-exp-2.9.35 |
| 22:41:07 | mrfatcatt | ran icatcher theme |
| 22:41:41 | mrfatcatt | iCatcher-MisticBlc |
| 22:42:19 | Strogg | I'm trying to build a simulator version of the daily tarball, and I'm missing a file "rockboxlogo.h" that's included from apps/recorder/icons.h |
| 22:42:19 | mrfatcatt | should it work |
| 22:42:23 | mrfatcatt | mabey ill just reinstall |
| 22:42:56 | PaulPosition | You'll need to go have a look at wps gallery and choose one theme that supports album_art. You'll also need to create bitmap files of your album covers, rockbox doesn't support embedded album art à la iTunes. |
| 22:42:59 | rasher | Strogg: which target? |
| 22:43:07 | Strogg | rasher: Ipod video |
| 22:43:20 | Strogg | Option #22, I believe. |
| 22:43:34 | mrfatcatt | i used wmp for my album art |
| 22:43:45 | mrfatcatt | so i beieleve theres invisable .bmp files for it |
| 22:43:55 | rasher | Do they have the right name? |
| 22:44:04 | rasher | (album.bmp I believe?) |
| 22:44:35 | PaulPosition | I think it's rather cover.bmp. |
| 22:45:16 | rasher | Okay, I've only ever used it once, a long time ago |
| 22:45:20 | PaulPosition | I don't use mediaplayer so I can't say but I remember it creating .jpg ... dunno. |
| 22:45:34 | mrfatcatt | hmm |
| 22:45:45 | mrfatcatt | mabey if off |
| 22:45:56 | mrfatcatt | my mp3 have this AlbumArt_{F2DAE1E4-0858-42AF-AFD3-C0FAF057B869}_Large.jpg |
| 22:46:01 | mrfatcatt | for there art work |
| 22:46:06 | PaulPosition | right. |
| 22:46:09 | rasher | That won't work at all |
| 22:46:21 | mrfatcatt | well |
| 22:46:29 | mrfatcatt | if u tag a amp3 in musicmatch or wmp |
| 22:46:35 | mrfatcatt | it makes it a jpg |
| 22:46:46 | spug | you'll need a bmp |
| 22:46:50 | mrfatcatt | so why read it as a bmp |
| 22:46:51 | rasher | jpgs won't work, you need to convert them |
| 22:46:55 | PaulPosition | You need to make them bitmaps, using photoshop, irfanview, whatever.. And better make them smaller, like 128x128 pixels or something. |
| 22:47:08 | mrfatcatt | bahh |
| 22:47:12 | mrfatcatt | why |
| 22:47:14 | | Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) |
| 22:47:20 | mrfatcatt | everything is jpeg |
| 22:47:27 | rasher | Because we don't want a jpeg decoder in the core |
| 22:47:29 | mrfatcatt | is there a plug in to read jpegs instead |
| 22:47:35 | rasher | No |
| 22:47:55 | rasher | It's not terribly hard to run a mass-converter and it saves Rockbox a mountain of trouble |
| 22:47:58 | mrfatcatt | yeah but for comnpitablity everything is the other not bmp |
| 22:47:58 | PaulPosition | because jpegs are compressed and need to be decompressed. As Rockbox is a work-in-progress made from reverse-engineering all sorts of things, some optimisation NEEDS to be done before it could decode mp3 and jpegs all at the same time without a hiccup. |
| 22:48:03 | mrfatcatt | im not trying to argue |
| 22:48:08 | mrfatcatt | but it doesnt make any sense |
| 22:48:14 | rasher | It makes perfect sense |
| 22:48:15 | blue_lizard | album art is 75*75 or 100*100 .bmp only |
| 22:48:17 | PaulPosition | Since it's a MUSIC player first, well the jpeg decoding is like postponed for ..well a long time. |
| 22:48:20 | | Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:48:21 | Bagder | it makes sense to me |
| 22:48:22 | rasher | Offload the hard work to the pc |
| 22:48:34 | rasher | (decompressing and resizing) |
| 22:48:45 | Bagder | you want it resized anyway, so the format change doesn't really add anything |
| 22:49:40 | mrfatcatt | so why doesnt wmp make there files bmp instead of jpeg |
| 22:49:42 | amiconn | There is a plugin that shows jpegs |
| 22:49:56 | Bagder | mrfatcatt: ask its authors |
| 22:50:04 | mrfatcatt | bmps are uncompressed so there generally larger file size right |
| 22:50:09 | rasher | mrfatcatt: Because wmp runs on a pc, and jpegs are handier since it's basically free anyway |
| 22:50:11 | PaulPosition | Because WMP doesn't run anymore on 75mhz machines but on pentium 3ghertz |
| 22:50:19 | spug | mrfatcatt: not much difference in 100x100 |
| 22:50:23 | amiconn | Well, jpegs as _album_ art make some sense, as they're compressed |
| 22:50:42 | amiconn | However, what doesn't make sense at all is embedding "album" art in tags |
| 22:50:56 | mrfatcatt | i see |
| 22:51:04 | mrfatcatt | how does itunes do it then |
| 22:51:14 | PaulPosition | It does, and unless some zealot thinks it *should* not be part of rockbox, I don't see why it wouldn't be at one point... It's just not for tomorrow. (right?) |
| 22:51:15 | mrfatcatt | with a jpeg as well or bmp |
| 22:51:35 | rasher | amiconn: If I only keep a single song from an album, I'd rather have it embedded. For a full album, a jpeg in the same dir is preferred |
| 22:51:35 | Bagder | well, the album art is not even in rockbox yet |
| 22:51:44 | amiconn | mrfatcatt: Afaik itunes converts the file before putting it on the ipod |
| 22:51:50 | Martian67_ | amiconn: nope |
| 22:52:03 | mrfatcatt | all i ulitmatly want is some sort of organization wherre i getting my info tags, art , and im able to view all the correct info in the media player and the iriver mp3 player |
| 22:52:06 | Martian67_ | it just gets renamed |
| 22:52:08 | amiconn | I can't tell for sure because I never touched itunes |
| 22:52:22 | mrfatcatt | without converting everything differnt ways |
| 22:52:55 | mrfatcatt | also now in vista |
| 22:53:12 | mrfatcatt | the songs in the windows viewer is showing the albumn art too |
| 22:53:14 | mrfatcatt | whihc is new |
| 22:53:23 | mrfatcatt | and i havent quite figure out how thats working |
| 22:53:29 | rasher | And this concerns Rockbox... how? |
| 22:53:33 | blue_lizard | thats the miracly |
| 22:53:45 | blue_lizard | only billyboy knows how it works |
| 22:53:48 | | Quit rconan (Remote closed the connection) |
| 22:53:49 | mrfatcatt | just a easy workable format, thats it |
| 22:54:14 | mrfatcatt | so how would u recommend updateing 40 gigs of music |
| 22:54:19 | PaulPosition | mrfatcatt - I thought albumArt was the shnittz, particularly now that itunes offer the superb coverflow.. But I'll be damned if I ever look at the art on my Digital Audio Player, so I stopped caring for the small bitmaps. |
| 22:54:19 | mrfatcatt | to bmp |
| 22:54:52 | rasher | I would use "find" and "convert", but since you're on Windows, I have no idea. |
| 22:54:59 | mrfatcatt | lol |
| 22:55:02 | rasher | Except to install the windows versions of those tools. |
| 22:55:05 | mrfatcatt | superb coverflow?? what do you mena |
| 22:55:07 | mrfatcatt | mean |
| 22:55:47 | | Join rconan [0] (n=richard@82-46-100-113.cable.ubr08.azte.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 22:56:09 | spug | how much more battery does album art suck anyway? |
| 22:56:09 | PaulPosition | bwaah, nothing important, just a new view in the latest itunes where you browse by covers.. |
| 22:56:41 | PaulPosition | spug - probably not much, it has to load the backdrop and the 20some images people use in the WPS, one more isn't a big deal I'd think. |
| 22:57:14 | mrfatcatt | itunes tagging sucks |
| 22:57:24 | mrfatcatt | u cant even pick the right tag in itunes |
| 22:57:30 | Strogg | I wish there was a way to turn your display off when the hold button is on. That'd rock. |
| 22:57:32 | mrfatcatt | at least in music match u can look it up |
| 22:57:37 | mrfatcatt | whihc is important |
| 22:57:44 | mrfatcatt | because if u tagg old jazz records |
| 22:57:48 | mrfatcatt | there are mutiable versions |
| 22:58:00 | mrfatcatt | it doens really matter with newwer music but older music yes |
| 22:58:11 | mrfatcatt | when there are revisions so i dont use itunes for that reason |
| 22:58:38 | spug | Strogg: can't you? |
| 22:59:00 | spug | in the display settings you can set the timeout for the display when the hold button is on |
| 22:59:02 | * | Strogg checks for a new option in the config menu |
| 22:59:05 | spug | i have it to "off" |
| 22:59:18 | spug | when i turn on hold, the display is turned off |
| 22:59:30 | Strogg | oooh nice. I just updated my firmware today.. that was on my wishlist for a while. hehe |
| 22:59:40 | spug | :) |
| 22:59:40 | rasher | Strogg: Ipod Video sim builds fine for me |
| 22:59:57 | rasher | From daily tarball |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:04 | amiconn | PaulPosition, spug: It depends on when / how often album art is loaded |
| 23:00:12 | Strogg | rasher: hrmm wonder what I'm doing wrong.. |
| 23:00:22 | Strogg | spug: are talking about display or backlight? |
| 23:00:38 | spug | amiconn: so if i shuffle my entire music folder, it'll probably use a lot more than just listening to consecutive albums |
| 23:00:46 | amiconn | If it causes a spinup per track, it will suck quite some extra power, but if it is clever, you're playing albums and it loads only once per album it shouldn't be noticeable |
| 23:00:53 | mrfatcatt | rockbox cant play doom, but not decode jpeg album art..how weird |
| 23:01:00 | spug | Strogg: hmm, backlight, but the two are the same on my device |
| 23:01:04 | spug | i guess not on all |
| 23:01:15 | mrfatcatt | can play doom |
| 23:01:25 | spug | mrfatcatt: the two aren't related at all |
| 23:01:46 | rasher | mrfatcatt: Not really, Doom was a port and is a plugin, albumart loading will be part of the core, so has some entirely different limits |
| 23:01:47 | Strogg | spug: yeah.. I have mine set the same way.. backlight turns off when the hold button is on |
| 23:01:58 | PaulPosition | mrfatcatt - can play doom. can decode jpegs. can'T decode jpegs on the fly while listening music without as much as a hiccup. SINCE IT IS A MUSIC PLAYER, music playing is priviledged. that all. |
| 23:01:58 | Bagder | rockbox can decode jpeg the same way it plays doom |
| 23:02:04 | spug | Strogg: aha :/ |
| 23:02:04 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:02:05 | Bagder | in a plugin |
| 23:02:40 | amiconn | mrfatcatt: There is one fundamental difference. Playing doom stops the music. Showing album art with stopping music wouldn't make sense |
| 23:02:41 | Strogg | spug: I suppose the LCD doesn't really use that much power without the backlight.. but.. hehe |
| 23:03:01 | spug | Strogg: yeah. everything that saves power is awesome ;) |
| 23:03:25 | mrfatcatt | i see |
| 23:03:36 | mrfatcatt | i like the the differnt points u guys make |
| 23:03:44 | | Join rotator [0] (n=e@rockbox/developer/rotator) |
| 23:04:55 | amiconn | Besides, rockbox is mainly a music player firmware. Album art is just a gimmick imho |
| 23:05:01 | Bagder | this may sound weird, but we _have_ thought about a few things when rockbox turned out like this |
| 23:05:45 | amiconn | If someone comes up with a nice way to integrate album art handling, i.e. battery and memory saving, compact and flexible, why not? |
| 23:06:00 | amiconn | But there are way more important things to do |
| 23:06:05 | spug | yeah |
| 23:06:13 | blue_lizard | like saving the whales? |
| 23:06:20 | spug | mrfatcatt: you can perhaps write a patch if you want to |
| 23:06:23 | * | Strogg crosses fingers |
| 23:06:43 | mrfatcatt | i just grew up on albums, where it was fun to check out the work and info |
| 23:07:08 | mrfatcatt | also, im a jazz musicians so alot of the info(musicians, studio info) is embbed in old album work |
| 23:07:09 | blue_lizard | shure and just grew up with lps |
| 23:07:12 | mrfatcatt | personally ect |
| 23:07:19 | rasher | Well, you won't be checking out a lot on a 100x100 bitmap |
| 23:07:28 | blue_lizard | what do i now with the small album "art" pictures? |
| 23:07:28 | mrfatcatt | true |
| 23:07:37 | Strogg | Bagder: weird. I found the problem... |
| 23:07:44 | mrfatcatt | things is in wmp the art is invisabe |
| 23:07:51 | Strogg | Woo! successful build |
| 23:07:54 | * | Strogg does a dance. |
| 23:07:58 | mrfatcatt | and is just copied over when u copy a full ablum folderr anyways |
| 23:07:58 | rasher | Strogg: What was the problem? |
| 23:08:17 | amiconn | But when it comes to embedded album art: it's a waste. Storing the same cover 10 or more times as embedded jpeg probably takes even more space than storing it one time as small bmp |
| 23:08:36 | amiconn | ...with the embedded version harder to decode |
| 23:08:52 | blue_lizard | probably not |
| 23:08:59 | Strogg | rasher: Bagder: when I ./configure'd, when it prompted for my rootdir and I gave it, it put my $HOME in the Makefile as ROOTDIR... and when I make'd, the path to the tools directory was wrong.. |
| 23:09:06 | blue_lizard | because of course then every song gets an different cover art |
| 23:09:21 | rasher | Strogg: It prompted you for your rootdir? That's something gone weird already |
| 23:09:27 | amiconn | blue_lizard: Then it's no longer album art |
| 23:09:30 | rasher | It usually manages to find it automatically |
| 23:09:38 | blue_lizard | amiconn: it was an joke |
| 23:09:38 | Strogg | rasher: Bagder: it uses the tools to generate the .h file I imagine, which was missing kuz the tools directory wasn't there. |
| 23:10:09 | Bagder | yeah, because $HOME is not the root it wanted |
| 23:10:18 | Bagder | maybe we should improve the question |
| 23:10:38 | Strogg | oh I know. I put in my root dir.. /home/jean/rockbox/src/rockbox-daily |
| 23:10:47 | rasher | Which reminds me.. |
| 23:10:49 | amiconn | Bagder: Btw, is there a more convenient way for cvs checkouts? |
| 23:11:03 | Strogg | Bagder: but for some reason deep in the Makefile, it ignored me and just used my $HOME instead. |
| 23:11:12 | rasher | Bagder: Why is the rootdir guessing done as it is? Why not simply use the path of configure? |
| 23:11:22 | Strogg | I could dig into the Makefile and try and see.. but my Makefile syntax fu is rather weak.. |
| 23:11:25 | amiconn | Right now I checkout the dirs individually, because with the mdoule thing I get an extra directory I do not want |
| 23:11:33 | amiconn | *module |
| 23:11:45 | rasher | Bagder: That is, rootdir=`dirname $0`../ |
| 23:11:45 | Bagder | rasher: it should be fixed, but once upon the time the script was written to allow tools/apps/firmware etc to be in separate places |
| 23:12:07 | rasher | Ah |
| 23:12:16 | Bagder | amiconn: so checkout the dir/module first and then move the subdirs |
| 23:12:26 | amiconn | Furthermore I never know which module includes which dirs |
| 23:12:29 | Bagder | I find it weird to not have the sources in a dir |
| 23:12:50 | rasher | amiconn: how about cvs -z3 -d:pserver:${USER}@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co -d "newcheckout" rockbox |
| 23:12:52 | Bagder | amiconn: so that's a documentation issue, I believe it is somewhere in the wiki |
| 23:12:53 | amiconn | Bagder: I _do_ have them in a dir, but with a name _I_ gave it |
| 23:12:59 | Bagder | amiconn: so name it |
| 23:13:11 | Bagder | with -d or just rename it after checkout |
| 23:13:35 | PaulPosition | Hey cvs experts.. Say I download sources, apply a few patches before getting lots of failed hunks on patch #7 and I want to go back, is there a function to retreive only what I changed (I use to delete and re-download the whole source but it sucks for mine and ROCKBOXs' bandwidth..) ?? |
| 23:13:37 | * | rasher has a "checkoutinto" script |
| 23:13:44 | Strogg | Anyway... I think it's a bug somewhere in the configure script.. (where is far beyond me).. |
| 23:14:18 | amiconn | rasher: "rockbox" doesn't include everything. Iirc it doesn't even include all necessary dirs for target builds (maybe it's fixed now, dunno) |
| 23:14:23 | Bagder | PaulPosition: you can undo any local changes by "diff -u file | patch -p0 -R" |
| 23:14:24 | rasher | Strogg: I found it |
| 23:14:34 | Strogg | rasher: wicked! |
| 23:14:34 | rasher | amiconn: then use rockbox-devel |
| 23:14:44 | * | Strogg buys rasher a beer and a pie |
| 23:15:04 | PaulPosition | yeah, but often times patch -r will give failed hunks too, leave a lot of rejects files behind and such so I presume it didn't really 'unpatch' well... But for what I know, maybe it did. |
| 23:15:11 | rasher | Strogg: Try changing line 545 of configure to rootdir=`input` |
| 23:15:12 | Bagder | I mean "cvs diff" btw |
| 23:15:34 | Bagder | PaulPosition: the "cvs diff | patch" thing won't fail |
| 23:15:47 | Bagder | but sure, you may get some .rej and .orig files left |
| 23:15:55 | Bagder | if you did the patching with the patch tool |
| 23:15:58 | PaulPosition | oh, but they mean nothing? |
| 23:16:10 | Bagder | they're just there for your information |
| 23:16:12 | rasher | Bagder: Isn't that simply a typo in configure, line 545? |
| 23:16:13 | Strogg | rasher: ahh. nice. |
| 23:16:35 | PaulPosition | Well sorry Badger for my 9 downloads yesterday.. ;) |
| 23:16:39 | Bagder | rasher: yes indeed it is |
| 23:16:41 | rasher | Strogg: Does that fix the problem you had? |
| 23:16:46 | rasher | Bagder: shall I fix? |
| 23:16:55 | Bagder | PaulPosition: we'll put that on your tab then sir? ;-P |
| 23:16:59 | Strogg | rasher: lemme test another build. I imagine it will though |
| 23:17:01 | Bagder | rasher: please do |
| 23:17:06 | | Quit Blackfish` ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.03 :: www.XLhost.de )") |
| 23:17:27 | Strogg | wow.. my first contribution hehe. I think I should go eat a cookie now. :) |
| 23:17:29 | rasher | I'm surprised it's been this long without anyone banging their head on that |
| 23:17:50 | Bagder | it shows how often people build out of the documented way ;-) |
| 23:17:58 | * | amiconn wonders what typo rasher is talking about |
| 23:18:07 | amiconn | firmdir=`input` |
| 23:18:10 | Strogg | rasher: most people probably build in the src dir, I bet. hehe |
| 23:18:10 | rasher | amiconn: it's asking for the root dir, but assigns it to firmdir |
| 23:18:17 | | Quit BHSPitLappy (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:18:27 | rasher | which seems.. broken |
| 23:18:28 | amiconn | I never had to answer that question manually... |
| 23:18:44 | Bagder | Strogg: not really, the script searches quite all over the place for it automaticly |
| 23:19:15 | Strogg | maybe my dev environment is just a little odd. hehe |
| 23:19:16 | rasher | Yeah, I really think that whole block should just be changed to rootdir=`dirname $0`/.. |
| 23:19:31 | rasher | Since that should always be the root dir |
| 23:19:39 | rasher | As things are now, anyway |
| 23:19:46 | PaulPosition | nomenclature... blah. :p |
| 23:20:13 | Strogg | Using source code root directory: /home/jean/rockbox/src/rockbox |
| 23:20:16 | Strogg | woo! |
| 23:20:44 | rasher | Not it'd better build correctly as well |
| 23:20:53 | Strogg | it's still building, but it's passed the point where it errors. Looks good. |
| 23:20:59 | Strogg | rasher: Bagder: Thanks a bunch :) |
| 23:21:36 | * | Bagder bows |
| 23:21:45 | rasher | You're most welcome |
| 23:26:04 | | Quit amiconn (" reboot, brb") |
| 23:29:01 | | Join nave7693 [0] (n=evan@adsl-69-110-7-240.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 23:29:54 | | Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@rockbox/developer/amiconn) |
| 23:40:18 | rasher | Bagder: replacing the rootdir guessing and asking with the rootdir=`dirname $0`/../ allows me to build from anywhere without having to manually specify my source dir.. Can you think of any downsides to using that? |
| 23:40:30 | Bagder | nope, go for it! |
| 23:41:26 | | Quit My_Sic (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 23:42:02 | | Join getdow [0] (i=58a10615@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/session) |
| 23:45:18 | | Join Terinjokes [0] (n=spader@adsl-144-237-235.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:45:21 | Terinjokes | heya! |
| 23:45:47 | spug | hi |
| 23:46:07 | Terinjokes | i really love Rockbox ;-) |
| 23:50:54 | | Quit mrfatcatt () |
| 23:50:59 | spug | me too! |
| 23:52:45 | Terinjokes | i really love the Last.fm log, so cool :-) |
| 23:53:10 | | Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@adsl-68-20-215-80.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 23:53:10 | | Quit manisavirus ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
| 23:53:43 | spug | Terinjokes: yeah, me too. it's my main reason for using rockbox ;) |
| 23:54:19 | getdow | Last.fm log ? |
| 23:54:45 | getdow | what s that ? |
| 23:55:05 | spug | a log of all your played songs that can be submitted to http://last.fm |
| 23:55:21 | Terinjokes | I guess i have to code something to make uploading the log easier in MacOSX, speaking the file is hidden (i made a system link in my Music folder that points at it, make it a tad bit easier to upload, and made a shell script to turn around and delete it..) |
| 23:55:28 | getdow | nice ! didnt know that |
| 23:57:11 | getdow | my main interest is in the gameboy and zx emulators :) |
| 23:57:35 | Terinjokes | hrm, still no nano support... |
| 23:57:58 | Terinjokes | spug, whats your last.fm namer? |
| 23:58:50 | spug | Spug |
icon identifies that the person is a core developer (has commit access).