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00:47:09 | antistatic | hi all |
00:48:35 | antistatic | about to install rockbox on a 1st gen nano, do i need to downgrade the firmware as it's currently 1.3 |
00:48:47 | JdGordon | no |
00:50:07 | antistatic | thanks |
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01:20:31 | Terinjokes | OK, who the member of the rockbox-users group on last.fm that listens to all this hard rock? |
01:22:14 | JdGordon | there is a rockbox-users group? |
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01:22:54 | Terinjokes | there's two, which on did you join? |
01:23:03 | JdGordon | neither yet |
01:23:31 | Terinjokes | http://www.last.fm/group/Rockbox+Users |
01:23:55 | JdGordon | whats the other one? |
01:24:43 | Terinjokes | nvm, the other one is a song, not a group (LOL) http://www.last.fm/music/Run-D.M.C./_/Rockbox |
01:29:42 | obo | Terinjokes: that'll be me (amongst others) |
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01:30:55 | Terinjokes | i think radiohead, but not much else that has played |
01:31:24 | JdGordon | i just joined.. hopefully it wont take long for some good music to get onto the group chart now :D |
01:31:40 | Terinjokes | JdGordon, I second that :) |
01:32:04 | JdGordon | <Terinjokes> OK, who the member of the rockbox-users group on last.fm that listens to all this hard rock? <- for some reason i doubt youll like my music |
01:32:18 | JdGordon | http://www.last.fm/user/JdGordy/ |
01:32:33 | Terinjokes | JdGordon, is it indie rock from UK/Australia? |
01:32:39 | JdGordon | hell no |
01:32:42 | obo | lol |
01:33:38 | obo | JdGordon: did you run a early version of the rb logging patch? |
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01:34:15 | JdGordon | no, im not useing it from rb now anyway... |
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01:34:43 | Terinjokes | Hrm, I don't a drop of blood, let alone 3 inches of it... |
01:34:43 | Terinjokes | and my interesting list....http://www.last.fm/user/terinjokes |
01:34:43 | Terinjokes | you probably don't like any of that, but hey, I got weird tastes |
01:35:02 | JdGordon | 3 inches of blood is awesome |
01:35:16 | JdGordon | melodic death meatl |
01:35:20 | JdGordon | metal |
01:37:27 | * | Terinjokes likes Anti-flag |
01:38:26 | Terinjokes | any suggestions for good WPS on the nano (because everyone loves Dark Geek ::wink:: ::wink::) |
01:38:48 | Terinjokes | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Dark_Geek BTW |
01:38:55 | JdGordon | the nano screen is too bloody small for a decent wps |
01:39:30 | JdGordon | dark geek looks good |
01:39:42 | Terinjokes | thanks :) |
01:39:55 | JdGordon | blue dream looks better tho |
01:39:58 | * | Terinjokes ported Dark Geek from the Video |
01:40:29 | Terinjokes | yeah, but Dark Geek gets more information across (and the picture is out of date....need to update it...) |
01:40:32 | JdGordon | my sister is using the jack white wps on her nano |
01:41:03 | Terinjokes | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Clix_Nano looks pretty cool |
01:41:39 | JdGordon | there arnt enough nice themes for the h300 |
01:41:45 | Terinjokes | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Jack does look pretty cool |
01:41:59 | JdGordon | i want http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/WpsIpod5g?rev=1;filename=Theme_X_Glow.png for the h300 |
01:42:04 | Terinjokes | JdGordon, any suggestions for improving the Dark Geek skin? |
01:42:19 | JdGordon | nup |
01:44:02 | Terinjokes | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300#Crossbones_for_iPod_Photo_Color whould be a cool nano port |
01:44:23 | JdGordon | nano screen is too small for it |
01:44:24 | Terinjokes | and JdGordon, the screen is pretty big :) |
01:44:40 | JdGordon | the nano screen is tiny... |
01:44:49 | JdGordon | its like 1/4 the size of the h300 |
01:44:54 | Terinjokes | FU |
01:44:59 | JdGordon | haha |
01:45:12 | Terinjokes | you make me feel insecure :( |
01:45:35 | JdGordon | just think how much more insecure youd feel if we started comparing other stuff :D |
01:45:49 | Terinjokes | like what? |
01:46:15 | JdGordon | anything? |
01:46:16 | SUSaiyan | pencils |
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01:47:38 | * | JdGordon has to finish retagging all his music |
01:47:40 | Terinjokes | mechinical. Good 'le BIC #2 (0.7mm) |
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01:48:48 | Terinjokes | Channel: any tips on compiling? |
01:49:25 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: when I'm done with changin over those menus as best I can you want a diff just posted up or sent to you? |
01:51:58 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it's back on the slow cursor trip again too btw. can't figure why atm. |
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01:54:21 | crashd | being at work at 1am is the lamest thing |
01:56:23 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: whatever... |
01:56:42 | JdGordon | if i get a chance today i tihnk im going to rewrite the menu code to work better |
01:58:45 | jhMikeS | the problem seemsed to just disappear after I added one setting in and then reappear after adding the rest :-\ |
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02:12:10 | Terinjokes | ah! all the themes for the nano suck! |
02:17:52 | Soap | then make new ones. |
02:17:59 | Soap | :P |
02:18:07 | Terinjokes | Soap: I did :) |
02:18:13 | Terinjokes | but even mine sucks |
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02:49:12 | z0de | hi |
02:49:42 | z0de | anyone here go the font helvR10.fnt on hand its no longer in the fonts pack and its required by the skin im using |
02:50:32 | rasher | I'm pretty sure it's from my site |
02:50:37 | rasher | rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/fonts/ |
02:50:57 | rasher | Either under 100dpi or 75dpi |
02:50:59 | z0de | thanks ill have a look |
02:51:06 | rasher | It's anyone's guess which one it is, try both |
02:52:04 | z0de | its in 75 |
02:52:06 | z0de | thanks :) |
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02:53:01 | rasher | It's in both |
02:53:15 | rasher | But they're different, so if the 75 one isn't what the skin requires, it'll look off |
02:53:53 | z0de | yea i saw that im checking now |
02:54:09 | z0de | the 75 looks right |
02:55:19 | Caliban_ | :se noai |
02:55:19 | Caliban_ | an:se ai |
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02:56:33 | z0de | thanks rasher |
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03:07:59 | Soap | good |
03:08:16 | scorche | you dont just CTCP ping me and dont get my wrath |
03:08:48 | scorche | and no i will not fix my horrible grammar for the above sentence |
03:10:10 | * | scorche smacks jhMikeS for being a sheep |
03:10:26 | jhMikeS | :D |
03:18:03 | jhMikeS | I think triggering should be out of SWCODEC for a bit (or at least for the menu update) since it doesn't function properly. It's currently enabled. Some needed functionality is missing. Any objections? |
03:21:40 | Soap | I object to my lack of understanding. |
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03:44:46 | Captain_Apathy | hey guys, quick question |
03:45:06 | Captain_Apathy | I downloaded a patch, now what do I do with it, just drag it in to the rockbox folder? |
03:47:48 | Soap | you need to patch the source files and recompile |
03:48:36 | Captain_Apathy | doh, any how to links? |
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03:54:01 | Soap | Captain_Apathy: there is a simple guide to compiling in the wiki, and a whole forum dedicated to it. |
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04:02:11 | Captain_Apathy | I'm on the main wiki page, what section is it? |
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04:17:24 | JdGordon | any electronic gurus herE? |
04:19:34 | scorche | JdGordon: you should know better than to ask questions like that =P |
04:19:41 | JdGordon | bah |
04:19:58 | JdGordon | this damn keyboard i just bought doesnt have caps/num lock LED's and i wanna hack them in |
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04:24:26 | scorche | if the keyboard has pads for them, then fine...if it doesnt, then it isnt worth doing |
04:24:52 | scorche | with any luck, it will because the manufacturer is too lazy and cheap to make different boards |
04:24:54 | scorche | ;) |
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04:52:33 | martian67 | my capslock is disabled and remapped to printscreen |
04:52:40 | martian67 | its in a really annoying place |
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04:56:42 | AlbinoTux | Hey there, anyone here taking a look at the ZUne? |
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05:01:18 | goffa | there's people working on the gigabeat |
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05:01:27 | goffa | but not the zune yet |
05:01:34 | goffa | as far as i know anyway |
05:01:45 | AlbinoTux | Hmm |
05:02:08 | goffa | i think it will be supported eventually |
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05:04:08 | JdGordon | not any time soon tho most probably |
05:04:28 | goffa | yeah.. i guess i don't mean to give that impression |
05:04:43 | goffa | gigabeat will probably be a while in itself |
05:06:38 | AlbinoTux | Well, how do I go about disassembling the Zune's firmware? |
05:07:04 | AlbinoTux | Or rather, what is the process for getting Rockbox running? |
05:09:34 | JdGordon | is the firmware encrypted? |
05:10:02 | JdGordon | i tihnk the first thing that needs doin is identify the hardware, make sure there is actually a gcc which can compile for it.. |
05:10:19 | JdGordon | then you need to decrypt the firmware and figure out how to run your own code on it |
05:10:23 | JdGordon | then its "simple" :p |
05:12:57 | AlbinoTux | How do you tell if the firmware is encrypted? |
05:13:05 | JdGordon | I dont know.. |
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05:13:14 | JdGordon | try to dissasemble it? |
05:13:24 | AlbinoTux | I need an ARM dissasbler |
05:13:37 | JdGordon | you need to know arm assembly then to see if it is encrytped |
05:13:49 | AlbinoTux | couldn't find one that'll run on windows :( |
05:13:59 | AlbinoTux | Well I guess I need to disassemble it first :) |
05:14:07 | AlbinoTux | then most assemly is similar |
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05:14:34 | AlbinoTux | I mean, it'll either look like assembly or not right. Then I get a data sheet to determine the instruction set |
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05:16:12 | goffa | well.. i'm not a programmer.. but from what i gather.. certain chipsets use certain compilers |
05:16:29 | goffa | if it uses an existing chip (i'm thinking similar to the gigabeat).. that compiler could probably be used |
05:16:42 | goffa | just thinking that since i heard rumor that toshiba makes both |
05:17:37 | JdGordon | the zune is a rebranded toshiba S series isnt it? |
05:18:04 | JdGordon | the questio is weather they use a proprietry DSP which there is no free compiler for.. |
05:18:13 | JdGordon | the cpu being arm is no problem |
05:18:21 | goffa | ah |
05:19:17 | goffa | well i think the s and f use a wolfson .. |
05:19:21 | goffa | maybe that's the dac |
05:19:50 | JdGordon | might be the same chip as in the ipods.. which are bein used in rb |
05:19:54 | goffa | the people in #gigabeat know far more than i |
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05:24:27 | daurnimator | JdGordon: what beer do you drink? |
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06:00:27 | webguest70 | hello everyone |
06:00:49 | webguest70 | my question is how to set a backdrop |
06:01:53 | webguest70 | this is because the filebrowser referenced in 9.1.4 doesnt work for browsing .rockbox folder on my ipod |
06:05:43 | SoulDeaD | i think you currently cannot set manually backdrops |
06:06:09 | SoulDeaD | wps themes can set it |
06:06:34 | webguest70 | for all menus |
06:07:00 | webguest70 | hmmmm |
06:07:31 | webguest70 | it says you can do it though..... but the way it tells you to is incorrect or im just incompitent |
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06:11:20 | SoulDeaD | you cannot browse .rockbox folder |
06:11:50 | SoulDeaD | put them somewhere else |
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06:12:28 | webguest70 | ok thanks |
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06:12:37 | rasher | Set file view to display all files |
06:12:39 | rasher | And you can. |
06:13:06 | rasher | And backdrops should be in the .rockbox folder I believe |
06:13:20 | webguest70 | how do you do that |
06:13:48 | webguest70 | yea .rockbox/backdrops |
06:13:51 | SoulDeaD | general settings -> display |
06:13:56 | rasher | Menu > General Settings > File view |
06:14:12 | rasher | Show files > All |
06:14:14 | SoulDeaD | right |
06:14:47 | webguest70 | THANKS SOOOOO MUCH!!!!!! |
06:14:51 | webguest70 | sorry |
06:14:54 | SoulDeaD | np |
06:14:57 | webguest70 | im excited lol |
06:15:14 | webguest70 | cus i hate that boring white |
06:16:42 | SoulDeaD | how do you set backdrops |
06:16:52 | SoulDeaD | i cannot find anything in the menu |
06:16:56 | webguest70 | huh? |
06:17:01 | theone | anyone with an h[13]40 have an opinion about 1600mAh batteries vs. 2200mAh batteries? Ordered a 2200mAh but received a 1600mAh...trying to see if I wanna wait to get it resolved or just stick with the 1600 |
06:17:08 | webguest70 | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch9.html#x12-1890009 |
06:17:39 | webguest70 | its there 9.1.4 i beleive |
06:17:48 | theone | of course a 2200 will last longer but by how much |
06:17:52 | webguest70 | k i m out ttyl |
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08:58:14 | webguest72 | good morning |
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09:14:49 | * | dan_a loads Rockbox :D |
09:14:57 | * | wehn gazes in wonderment at 113 users, and the 3 hours that passed so quietly. Rockboxers are nice crew. |
09:15:24 | Bagder | dan_a: !! |
09:15:39 | dan_a | MrH is a genius |
09:16:00 | Bagder | we need to come up with more words to describe him, this gets repetetive :-P |
09:17:52 | merbanan | I guess the sansa port is progressing nicely ? |
09:18:05 | dan_a | I think so |
09:18:07 | dan_a | :D |
09:18:42 | scorche | hurrah! |
09:20:11 | dan_a | I think I might have a committing spree tonight, especially if I can get the bank switching in the flash driver fixed, so 6 and 8Gb models are supported |
09:22:47 | Bagder | yay |
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09:25:03 | dan_a | Right - I've made myself late for work, so I'd better go. |
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09:51:24 | webguest40 | I'm trying to find a guide for flashing H140, so far all I see is 'How to flash Archos', nothing for H140, anyone know where the h140 guide is buried, tried a search as well and that pints to mailing list |
09:52:01 | markun | webguest40: how hard did you search? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing |
09:52:09 | webguest40 | thanks |
09:55:34 | webguest40 | how hard did i search, several times, but obviously me key words weren't as good, but is it really neccessary to be so precise with key words and should it be so well hidden |
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09:57:22 | markun | webguest40: No, you are right |
09:57:23 | LinusN | webguest40: i agree - it wasn't *that* easy to find |
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09:59:17 | webguest40 | :-) |
09:59:22 | rasher | Iriver flashing isn't officially supported though, is it (ie. using an experimental bootloader)? |
09:59:44 | hasibuzi | hi everyone |
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10:00:06 | JdGordon | he LinusN, did you ever get a chance to test the remote lcd enabled bootloader? |
10:00:12 | hasibuzi | do you know a way to get rockbox working on an archos Jukebox Multimedia 120? |
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10:00:51 | LinusN | JdGordon: no, sorry - i've been swamped with work lately |
10:01:09 | JdGordon | is there any real danger it would brick it? |
10:01:28 | LinusN | hasibuzi: nobody has ported it to that platform, and i don't think it will happen soon - or ever |
10:02:18 | LinusN | JdGordon: the h100 is pretty well protected from bricking - the h300 is a little more sensitive |
10:02:49 | LinusN | rasher: no - it's not yet supported by the official bootloaders |
10:03:11 | hasibuzi | okay, thanks anyway :/ |
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10:06:36 | Slasheri | JdGordon: what kind of bootloader patch are you trying to test? |
10:06:55 | JdGordon | enable some logging to the remote lcd fr the hxxx |
10:07:07 | Slasheri | ok, can you send a diff? |
10:07:26 | JdGordon | ok |
10:07:44 | JdGordon | oh LinusN, is there any reason why the bootloader draws the the lcd twice for every update? |
10:07:55 | LinusN | it does? |
10:08:28 | JdGordon | yah |
10:08:44 | LinusN | aha, i see now - totally unnecessary |
10:10:29 | LinusN | i forgot to remove the lcd_update() calls when i added the printf() function |
10:13:17 | JdGordon | Slasheri: youve got the reflasher tool if the bootloader doesnt wrk? |
10:14:02 | Slasheri | JdGordon: nope, but so far it has always worked just enough :) |
10:14:23 | JdGordon | Slasheri: oh, dont try that.. i just relaised i put the remote_lcd_init in the wrong place |
10:14:39 | JdGordon | its in the x5 part.. not iriver |
10:15:01 | Slasheri | well, unless original firmware is removed, there is the reset cookie check |
10:15:05 | JdGordon | no sorry, its there.. the patch put it in |
10:15:14 | Slasheri | so it doesn't matter if bootloader crashes |
10:15:16 | JdGordon | shuold be safe.. |
10:15:19 | Slasheri | only crt0 must succeed |
10:15:25 | JdGordon | im too chicken to flash it |
10:15:42 | JdGordon | so if the bootloader crashes you can stll get ito OF ? |
10:15:48 | Slasheri | yes |
10:15:52 | Slasheri | just hitting the reset button |
10:16:02 | JdGordon | cool, so maybe i shhuoldnt be such a chicken :p |
10:16:19 | Slasheri | you could still show the patch :) |
10:16:27 | JdGordon | didnt you get it? |
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10:16:32 | JdGordon | i sent it over irc |
10:16:39 | Slasheri | oh, i didn't notice :) |
10:16:43 | Slasheri | just a moment |
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10:20:57 | Slasheri | JdGordon: i think that should be safe to try |
10:21:03 | Slasheri | but i am worried about one thing.. |
10:21:31 | JdGordon | .... being.. ? |
10:21:32 | Slasheri | adding new features to the bootloader, such as remote lcd support, can make the bootloader too big for the 64k section |
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10:21:53 | Slasheri | i wonder if it even compiles now |
10:21:56 | JdGordon | -rw-r−−r−− 1 jonno jonno 62552 2006-11-21 20:19 rockbox.iriver |
10:21:59 | JdGordon | does compile |
10:22:08 | Slasheri | yep.. but it's very near of that limit |
10:22:39 | JdGordon | LinusN: what do you think? still safe? |
10:24:17 | Slasheri | JdGordon: i don't think the remote lcd support is any problem, but the real cause of crash might be other rockbox development |
10:24:37 | Slasheri | and the only thing to find out is to try |
10:24:42 | JdGordon | $ ../tools/scramble -iriver new.bin new.hex |
10:24:43 | JdGordon | Model H300 series |
10:24:43 | JdGordon | This doesn't look like a valid decoded iHP firmware - reason: file 'length' data |
10:26:09 | Slasheri | so you first descrambled h300.hex h300.bin, then patched it with the bootloader/iriver/bootloader.bin? |
10:26:15 | JdGordon | yes |
10:26:25 | JdGordon | following the instructio in IriverBoot |
10:27:25 | JdGordon | ... side not, what in the patching causes the 64kb bootloader.bin to increase h300.hex to nearly 4mb from 2? |
10:27:41 | Slasheri | eh, that is not right |
10:27:45 | Slasheri | how did you patch it? |
10:28:04 | Slasheri | and how is ls -la bootloader.bin? |
10:28:08 | JdGordon | descramble, then mkboot |
10:28:17 | Slasheri | please give exact commands |
10:28:46 | JdGordon | i foloowed IriverBoot excalty |
10:28:56 | Slasheri | still, copy paste what you did |
10:29:07 | Slasheri | and how did you get the bootloader.bin file? |
10:29:07 | JdGordon | oh, bootloader.elf is 3mb, so it makes snese.. |
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10:29:18 | JdGordon | compiled it |
10:29:18 | Slasheri | how did you do it? |
10:29:28 | Slasheri | ok, and then copied it from what directory? |
10:29:39 | LinusN | i have a patch to extend the h300 bootloader to 128k |
10:30:11 | JdGordon | left it were it was... then ran tool/descramble on the origioal h300.hex, then mkboot,. then scramble again |
10:30:14 | Slasheri | but that doesn't help for h100 bootloader, unless original fw is dumped |
10:30:26 | Slasheri | JdGordon: ok, where it was? |
10:30:47 | JdGordon | where was which? |
10:30:55 | JdGordon | no, im h300 |
10:31:14 | Slasheri | yes, but where was the compiled h300 bootloader? |
10:31:18 | Slasheri | and how did you compile it? |
10:31:33 | JdGordon | the usual way... target 11, bootloader comile |
10:31:43 | JdGordon | its in h300-boot/bootloader/bootloader.bin |
10:31:58 | Slasheri | i just compiled it myself and seems to be ok.. .bin file 62k |
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10:42:16 | JdGordon | LinusN: any idea why we are getting the "This doesn't look like a valid decoded iHP firmware - reason: file 'length' data" error? |
10:42:48 | LinusN | yes - the image is corrupt :-/ |
10:43:31 | LinusN | or too big |
10:43:51 | JdGordon | after adding a few calls? :'( |
10:44:52 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, do you know whether bootloaders from current cvs will work ok? |
10:45:02 | LinusN | no i don't |
10:45:05 | amiconn | (thinking of e.g. dma lcd update for H300) |
10:50:18 | JdGordon | ok, Im getting that length error with cvs also |
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11:12:38 | leftright | yay, I've jusr upgraded my AJB-R to 100gigs, formatting the HD was abitch though because it was preformatted as a 'Dynamic Disk', had to convert it to a basic disk, then to FAT32 using partition magic, swissknife was of no use |
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11:30:36 | JdGordon | ok, off topic, but any electronic gurus in here? |
11:31:04 | JdGordon | im after a very simple circuit, but im a software person.. not hardware |
11:33:03 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: circuit for what? |
11:33:29 | JdGordon | i need a circuit which will toggle an led on and off using a momentary switch |
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11:42:55 | jhMikeS | flip-flop |
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11:43:45 | woodensoul | Is anyone up and about? |
11:44:41 | woodensoul | Well regardless, someone will see this eventually I guess. I could make a bug report as well, but I wanted to see what was said here first. |
11:45:13 | Slasheri | JdGordon: i would recommend a programmable microcontroller, for example atmel avr's. Those are really simple and very efficient to program with C |
11:46:02 | woodensoul | I've found a bug with the text editor feature that causes a total freeze that can only be recovered by a hard reset. All I can say is that it's happened several times while I'm attempting to edit a long line in .wps file. |
11:47:15 | amiconn | Slasheri: Hehe, I think an c is severe overkill for such a task |
11:47:46 | woodensoul | The last time, the freeze occured when I just selected the line to edit. But there were times where the freeze didn't occur until I tried to save the changes I had made to the line. |
11:48:36 | Slasheri | amiconn: for me that would be easier to do, than to start finding a bunch of resistors, capasitors, calibrating timing etc.. compared that you could do everything by software with only few lines of code :) |
11:48:55 | amiconn | Timing? For a flip-flop |
11:48:57 | amiconn | ? |
11:49:27 | jhMikeS | not to mention the investment in programming hardware, even if you make it yourself |
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11:49:43 | Slasheri | ok, maybe for a flip-flop that might be little overkill.. but it would be easier to add features, such as automatic swhitch off etc :) |
11:49:48 | pondlife | woodensoul: Can you reproduce this with a particular text file? |
11:49:56 | amiconn | A very simple standard logic chip should do |
11:50:00 | jhMikeS | Just buy a flip flop ic and maybe you'll need an open collector power transistor at most |
11:50:29 | amiconn | Yes, and a pullup resistor for the button, and perhaps a small capacitor for debouncing |
11:50:38 | woodensoul | pondlife: The file I was editing was the the iCatcher.wps file. I could tell you what lines in the file caused to the crash too, if that would help. |
11:51:33 | pondlife | woodensoul: Please open a Flyspray bug report and note down a "recipe" that will repro the crash. Maybe attac your iCatcher.wps file too (in case the standard one gets changed in the future). |
11:51:46 | pondlife | s/attac/attach |
11:52:48 | amiconn | A 4027 should do (dual JK flip flop) |
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11:55:44 | Roy_Roger | is anyone around? |
11:56:07 | Roy_Roger | hello? |
11:56:16 | jhMikeS | no ;) |
11:57:01 | woodensoul | pondlife: Will do. |
11:57:03 | Roy_Roger | i got a question, well two actually |
11:58:32 | Roy_Roger | how much space does rockbox take up in the ipod? |
11:58:50 | woodensoul | about 2 inches I think |
11:58:56 | Roy_Roger | cause me ipod is saying its takeing like 13 gigs |
11:58:59 | markun | maybe 5MB? |
11:59:11 | Roy_Roger | which seems a lil high, could i just be getting false reading? |
11:59:26 | ender` | run a chkdsk on it |
11:59:37 | Roy_Roger | actually, i think i know what it is |
11:59:46 | Roy_Roger | is there a way i can play mp4's |
11:59:58 | Roy_Roger | i forgot i added my intunes library, so its in there twice |
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13:41:00 | lilkid | wondering if someone could help me sorry if it's a bit unrelated to rockbox, how can i disable ipod disk mode without itunes? theres something you hold while you plug in the usb wire to the ipod but i can't remember, i read it in a rockbox manual but i can't find that page again |
13:43:36 | lilkid | anyone? |
13:43:44 | markun | sorry, don't have an ipod |
13:44:03 | lilkid | okie thanks anyway |
13:44:05 | bluebrother | no idea. Maybe searching the ipl website / wiki / forum helps |
13:44:35 | Galois | press menu?? |
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13:59:58 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: I attached the revision to the wiki page |
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14:18:01 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I just tried loading a wrong sized backdrop and it said "Backdrop Failed" as expected but it left garbage from the failed bitmap in the backdrop buffer. |
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14:23:49 | amiconn | jhMikeS: That's not easily avoidable. The backdrop code should clear the backdrop in such a case |
14:24:48 | amiconn | If the bmp itself isn't defective and not too big for the buffer, the bmp loader will load it fine, even if it isn't the right size for a backdrop |
14:24:59 | jhMikeS | amiconn: personally, I'd try to reload the previous image and if that fails then clear it. |
14:25:36 | amiconn | You can't reload the previous image, unless it was stored in /.rockbox/backdrops |
14:26:21 | jhMikeS | well, if it was then you can attempt it otherwise not. |
14:26:42 | amiconn | You don't know whether it was |
14:27:10 | amiconn | global_settings.backdrop_image (?) stores the last permanent backdrop image |
14:27:29 | amiconn | Possible temporary backdrop filenames are stored nowhere |
14:27:30 | jhMikeS | ah, I get it |
14:28:27 | jhMikeS | Just fail if the dimensions don't match and not even try loading? |
14:28:42 | amiconn | You only know the dimensions _after_ loading |
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14:29:43 | amiconn | A related question is how to handle backdrops on X5. |
14:29:48 | jhMikeS | Can do something to check the header and abort it. |
14:30:01 | jhMikeS | What's wrong with them on x5? |
14:30:14 | amiconn | Have only one "Set as backdrop" option and let the loader decide whether it's for main or remote? |
14:30:32 | amiconn | What if we have a target with 2 lcd with identical resolution? |
14:30:36 | jhMikeS | Guess you'll have to check the size and depth :P |
14:30:43 | amiconn | ??? |
14:30:48 | jhMikeS | Guess not the depth |
14:30:50 | amiconn | The depth is irrelevant |
14:31:17 | amiconn | Or have 2 optios "Set as backdrop" and "Set as remote backdrop"? |
14:32:46 | jhMikeS | hmmm |
14:34:07 | jhMikeS | If you don't want to check anything automatically then I guess that's the only way |
14:34:53 | jhMikeS | probably the way with the fewest suprises too |
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14:38:28 | webmind | hmm, hello, anyone know if it's possible with rockbox on the ipod to listen and charge at the same time ? |
14:38:31 | bluebrother | btw, is there a reason there is no "browse backdrops" menu entry? |
14:39:29 | webmind | nm |
14:40:46 | amiconn | bluebrother: It would be slightly confusing, because "set as backdrop" is not the default action for BMP files |
14:41:23 | bluebrother | hmm. What is the default action on bmp files? Haven't seen any other. |
14:44:38 | jhMikeS | It should just view it like a jpeg does. If in Browse Backdrops, special handle it and set it as a backdrop. |
14:44:45 | amiconn | There isn't one yet. There should be a bmp viewer |
14:46:13 | jhMikeS | should be viewers for maybe gif and png |
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14:47:33 | amiconn | The problem with bmp, gif, png, ... is that downscaling is way more difficult than for jpeg |
14:48:09 | amiconn | ...so it's quite challenging to make a viewer that works well with restricted memory |
14:48:30 | jhMikeS | how's that the case? |
14:48:35 | preglow | you need to interpolate |
14:48:39 | preglow | and scale |
14:48:58 | jhMikeS | yeah. why's that easier for jpeg? |
14:50:21 | preglow | you just skip using the high freq coefficients and scale in the same operation as resynthesising |
14:50:55 | preglow | it even yields a better quality picture, since frequency components that would alias are not used in the first place |
14:53:35 | jhMikeS | So you low pass filter it |
14:53:40 | preglow | in essence |
14:53:42 | preglow | perfect lowpass |
14:54:40 | preglow | but the trick is only using the frequency coefficients which are applicable, and then using them to synthesise a lower resolution picture tile |
14:54:43 | * | jhMikeS still awaits the chorus/flanger |
14:55:16 | preglow | do you, now |
14:55:21 | jhMikeS | ;) |
14:55:23 | preglow | i might put in a further stab either today or tomorrow |
14:55:35 | jhMikeS | cool |
14:55:38 | preglow | depends what i'm doing this afternoon |
14:56:05 | preglow | major coding lies in just getting playback/recording going, the effect itself should be fairly straight forward |
14:56:47 | jhMikeS | had a feeling that would be a stick point to coordinate that. sounds like reusable lib material ones it's worked out. |
14:56:55 | preglow | indeed |
14:57:33 | preglow | not really sure how to do it yet either |
14:57:40 | preglow | easiest would probably be some kind of double buffering scheme |
14:58:15 | preglow | would be easier if i could count on playback and recording being synchronised :> |
14:58:40 | preglow | i guess it might even be possible to hook that up |
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15:00:09 | jhMikeS | they should stay in sync once started if they never break. guess you have to allow for a little relative slop |
15:03:04 | jhMikeS | I might try the four circular buffer pointers myself and see |
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15:05:03 | preglow | which ? |
15:09:01 | jhMikeS | Have a queue that get written at one end with data in and the other end gets read out to playback put your changes in between them. |
15:10:30 | jhMikeS | leaves room for variations in startup too |
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15:32:00 | preglow | erhm, queue? that sounds very non-array-ish |
15:32:05 | preglow | unless you want to do a lot of copying |
15:34:53 | jhMikeS | non-arrayish? why? could be done as an array with fixed sized block |
15:36:21 | preglow | hmm, yeah |
15:36:24 | preglow | i misunderstood |
15:38:12 | preglow | well, yeah, that might work well |
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15:38:16 | preglow | no idea how to pull that off, though |
15:38:19 | preglow | need to read up some more on the api |
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16:10:50 | jhMikeS | hmmm...look like I'll have a little debugging to do |
16:13:05 | preglow | oh? |
16:21:25 | jhMikeS | lockup trying to record data which is weird. maybe just a dumb mistake or something |
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16:25:16 | jhMikeS | alignment :P |
16:25:35 | jhMikeS | Should use DMA_AA flag for recording |
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16:40:55 | preglow | jhMikeS: trying out playback/recording? :> |
16:42:15 | PaulPosition | What exactly are Hunks? I'm trying to apply a patch and 7 of them fails, seemingly when they try to change bmp.c file.. But looking at the .patch, I see only 4 lines which are supposed to get added and none removed.. Going to try adding 'em by hand but still I'd like to know.. |
16:42:35 | jhMikeS | preglow: yes |
16:43:05 | jhMikeS | just trying to record something and play it right back out with a delay |
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16:51:07 | jhMikeS | yea it's working \o/ |
16:51:24 | jhMikeS | more of an echo with the mic feedback |
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17:00:48 | preglow | woot! |
17:01:13 | preglow | post the code somewhere when done? i'm gonne have a look after catching a flick later |
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17:02:20 | jhMikeS | was just gonna pastebin it for you |
17:02:53 | jhMikeS | is that ok or should I put it on flyspray? |
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17:07:10 | jhMikeS | a little quirk with starting playback...doesn't start the first time after boot |
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17:07:34 | jhMikeS | have to stop it and run it again then it works |
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17:13:15 | preglow | heh |
17:13:33 | preglow | jhMikeS: pastebin sounds nice |
17:13:54 | jhMikeS | ok gimma a sec |
17:16:57 | preglow | ooh, mpegplayer patch |
17:17:37 | jhMikeS | http://pastebin.ca/254185 |
17:18:00 | preglow | any idea what causes the quirk? |
17:18:36 | jhMikeS | not yet...still thinking |
17:21:16 | preglow | woah, this does allocate quite a few chunks |
17:21:50 | jhMikeS | just used the numbers from recording. adjust it to needs |
17:21:54 | preglow | ah, yes, but that's just part of the delay functionality |
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17:23:23 | jhMikeS | watch your ears if you try it. it sets all the volumes to zero :P |
17:23:38 | jhMikeS | or 0 and +20 |
17:24:21 | preglow | heh, always do when it comes to sound programming, so don't worry |
17:24:25 | preglow | had too many white noise sessions |
17:24:54 | preglow | this mic needs a bad ass amount of amp anyway |
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17:27:10 | preglow | what player did you try this on? |
17:28:51 | preglow | doesn't work very well here |
17:28:53 | preglow | h120 |
17:29:47 | jhMikeS | x5 |
17:29:53 | preglow | just locks up my player |
17:29:57 | jhMikeS | hmm |
17:30:00 | preglow | nothing on screen, lcd stays |
17:30:03 | preglow | backlight, i mean |
17:30:31 | jhMikeS | different codec chip so maybe needs some adjustments |
17:30:49 | jhMikeS | I'll try it on the 120 |
17:30:52 | preglow | apparently, heh |
17:32:58 | jhMikeS | did you do a CVS update? there's a change I committed that you must have |
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17:33:43 | fnord__ | hi |
17:34:01 | fnord__ | i've got a g5 ipod and tried yesterdays build |
17:34:05 | fnord__ | but it does not boot |
17:34:15 | n1s | when did you get it? |
17:34:20 | fnord__ | last thing i see on the screen is "loading rockbox..." |
17:34:35 | n1s | did you install rockbox? |
17:34:49 | fnord__ | i did as described in the manual |
17:34:56 | fnord__ | partitions are there |
17:34:57 | linuxstb | fnord__: Has it worked in the past? |
17:35:00 | fnord__ | no |
17:35:04 | fnord__ | it was my first try |
17:35:34 | n1s | but did you unzip rockbox (.rockbox folder and rockbox.ipod file) |
17:35:34 | linuxstb | Is it a 30GB or 60GB 5g? |
17:35:39 | fnord__ | 30 |
17:36:04 | fnord__ | partition table seems to be ok |
17:36:22 | preglow | jhMikeS: you know, i didn't. .... |
17:36:22 | fnord__ | i have a vfat on the second partition |
17:36:27 | linuxstb | Did you convert your ipod from HFS to FAT32? |
17:36:41 | fnord__ | its fat32 |
17:36:52 | preglow | sorry about that, going at it again now |
17:36:56 | fnord__ | i trashed my original firmware |
17:36:57 | linuxstb | fnord__: Yes, but did you convert it? |
17:37:16 | fnord__ | i dont think so |
17:37:24 | linuxstb | Was it working with the Apple firmware before you tried to install Rockbox? |
17:37:29 | preglow | i wonder if this is the bug i had when i last gave it a try |
17:37:51 | fnord__ | yes, it worked. but the applefirmware seems to be gone |
17:37:57 | fnord__ | there is no bootmenu |
17:38:05 | jhMikeS | I added DMA auto alignment to recording transfers |
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17:38:18 | preglow | jhMikeS: even works the first time around here, no need to start again |
17:38:27 | preglow | works like a charm |
17:38:28 | bluebrother | fnord__, which bootloader are you using? The Rockbox one doesn't have a menu |
17:38:40 | fnord__ | so it's the rockbox one |
17:38:45 | fnord__ | i tried ipodlinux before |
17:38:50 | fnord__ | which had one |
17:39:04 | bluebrother | so it's the Rockbox one because you installed that or because you don't get a menu? |
17:39:10 | jhMikeS | excellent |
17:39:21 | fnord__ | i guess |
17:39:35 | fnord__ | yes, it says "rockbox bootloader" |
17:40:26 | preglow | jhMikeS: does seem like an abundance of chunks, heh, takes ages to traverse through them |
17:41:27 | jhMikeS | preglow: true, but I just needed something working not tuned :) |
17:41:40 | linuxstb | fnord__: Does your ipod freeze with the message "loading Rockbox..." or does something else happen? |
17:41:50 | fnord__ | it freezes after that |
17:42:07 | preglow | jhMikeS: but sure as hell, i'll see what i can do with this thing |
17:42:17 | preglow | when i come back |
17:43:13 | preglow | haha, so it's the internal mic being used |
17:43:17 | preglow | the quality isn't as sucky as it seemed |
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17:43:32 | jhMikeS | preglow: shouldn't be any worse than normal |
17:43:39 | preglow | i just thought it sounded really bnad |
17:43:43 | preglow | turns out it doesn't |
17:45:04 | fnord__ | linuxstb: maybe that merging step went wrong |
17:45:24 | fnord__ | is it important to have a proper apple-firmware to run rockbox? |
17:46:19 | preglow | hah |
17:46:26 | preglow | the usb logo looks really messed up here |
17:47:00 | jhMikeS | haven't seen it on 2 bit yet |
17:47:18 | preglow | it's just a jumble |
17:47:23 | jhMikeS | for me too |
17:47:23 | preglow | perhaps something messed up during update here |
17:47:33 | preglow | mok |
17:48:22 | jhMikeS | I only updated one line of one file so don't look at me |
17:49:21 | preglow | sure, no |
17:49:27 | preglow | it probably didn't work when they got replaced |
17:49:31 | preglow | pixelma: any ideas? |
17:49:42 | jhMikeS | it loads backdrops allright |
17:50:42 | jhMikeS | there's a contrast setting and lcd driver adjustment that gives a more even grayscale |
17:51:22 | jhMikeS | ...for h120 but never committed it. Don't know if others would find it more pleasing like I do. |
17:51:59 | preglow | i'd be glad to try it out |
17:52:39 | jhMikeS | the grays are all very, very light on H120 |
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17:54:51 | pixelma | preglow: did you do a make clean before - I experience these garbled bitmaps when there was one which is then replaced by another in a different size |
17:55:13 | PaulPosition | One question guys.. : cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@www.rockbox.org:/cvsroot/rockbox co -D '2006-11-20 23:30' rockbox −− Is that relative to MY timezone or something or is there some 'official cvs time' or something? |
17:55:31 | pabs | relative to the server |
17:55:35 | linuxstb | PaulPosition: I would guess it's the time on the CVS server |
17:56:24 | jhMikeS | preglow: change line 131 of lcd-h100.c to lcd_write_command_ex(LCD_CNTL_GRAY_SCALE_PATTERN, 0x43, -1) and set contrast to 27. Try a gradient image, is almost perfectly linear. |
17:56:41 | PaulPosition | Hmm, thanks... Now to find why that patch wouldn't apply.. Oh well. :P Another occasion to start learning some more. |
17:56:55 | preglow | pixelma: will try |
17:57:07 | linuxstb | Mmm... From the cvs man page: "The date is interpreted as being in the local timezone, unless a specific timezone is specified." |
17:57:31 | PaulPosition | owww, do I get man pages through vmware (silly me should have tried. duh.) |
17:57:32 | PaulPosition | thanks. |
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18:01:04 | n1s | pixelma: New usb logo works fine here on H300 (with make clean) looks nice :-) |
18:02:22 | preglow | pixelma: yeah, that was it, looks, smooth as hell now :) |
18:03:05 | jhMikeS | yes, they look beautiful |
18:03:23 | pixelma | many thanks :) |
18:03:33 | jhMikeS | have to try the H120 with a make clean |
18:05:04 | jhMikeS | ok, that's better. it's not showing as transparent though or is that yet to be implemented? |
18:05:47 | preglow | jhMikeS: think i agree with you |
18:05:48 | pixelma | on greyscale? there is no transparency yet |
18:05:53 | jhMikeS | ah |
18:06:09 | jhMikeS | preglow: about the gray level adjustment? |
18:06:19 | preglow | yea |
18:06:52 | jhMikeS | I have a corner to corner gradient and it's perfectly balanced with that. Should I commit the one liner? |
18:07:24 | preglow | well, i can't imagine why a linear grayscale palette would not be needed |
18:07:28 | preglow | so it's definitely fine by me |
18:07:48 | jhMikeS | I guess I'd set the default contrast to 27. Is that what you set? 28 is too dark then. |
18:08:05 | preglow | set it to 27, yes |
18:08:06 | preglow | from 29 |
18:08:16 | preglow | which is default, i guess |
18:10:24 | fnord__ | ok |
18:10:29 | fnord__ | i am a step further |
18:10:31 | fnord__ | i guess |
18:10:43 | fnord__ | i installed ipodlinux-bootloader |
18:10:49 | fnord__ | and loaded rockbox |
18:11:09 | fnord__ | i get the logo, and a menu, which lets me select rockbox |
18:11:21 | fnord__ | then, there's some text about rolo |
18:11:29 | fnord__ | and then there is the menu again |
18:11:38 | thegeek | anyone know if there has been any progress with the 5.5G 80gb ipod and those disk controller/block problems? |
18:11:50 | n1s | fnord__ that's the file browser |
18:12:12 | fnord__ | :-) |
18:12:16 | fnord__ | i figured out |
18:12:18 | preglow | i'm oute, back later tonight |
18:12:27 | fnord__ | after pressing menu, i got some stuff to select |
18:12:35 | fnord__ | ... now, where's doom ;-) |
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18:22:22 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Default contrast 27 is too bright on my h140 |
18:22:29 | amiconn | I use 28 all the time |
18:23:38 | amiconn | If you change the default contrast, you need to recalibrate the grayscale library's gamma table as well |
18:24:13 | Hazer | I recently acquired a iPod Photo, installed Rockbox and everything is running fine.... just one small question. I've tried looking for a "playlist creator" with no success so far. Is there an automated utility that can be used? I'd rather not tag 10gb of MP3's by hand if I can avoid it. ;) |
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18:27:38 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that's what I did. they're each one darker |
18:28:58 | obo | Hazer: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#MP3_Tagging_Organization |
18:30:55 | Hazer | obo: I found that list and grabbed Tag&Rename (most of my MP3 collection was self-ripped back in the late 90's without ID3 tagging) but I don't see that any of those would actually create a .m3u file that I can drop on the Pod that will have all the music in the playlist.... |
18:31:21 | amiconn | jhMikeS: What 'each one'? |
18:31:28 | pixelma | slasheri's new server (?) is causing red builds... |
18:31:42 | amiconn | The grayscale lib gamma table is a mapping table for all 256 possible source levels |
18:31:56 | jhMikeS | each gray scale pattern |
18:32:12 | amiconn | _grayscale library_ |
18:32:21 | jhMikeS | didn't mess with the lib |
18:32:31 | Slasheri | ah, the path must be incorrect.. |
18:32:32 | Slasheri | checking |
18:32:38 | amiconn | You need to if you change the default contrast |
18:32:57 | amiconn | Besides, a contrast of 27 doesn't yield clear black for me |
18:33:52 | Slasheri | eh, m68k-elf-gcc is really missing.. rockboxdev.sh must have failed then, because there are all the other files.. |
18:33:55 | Slasheri | i will check soon |
18:34:00 | obo | Hazer: if you just want a giant list containing everything, you can enable the option to "Recursively insert directories" and insert the folder containing your music, directly on your ipod |
18:34:04 | jhMikeS | give it a test and see what it looks like maybe should be a little different on 140? |
18:34:13 | amiconn | It's the same LCD |
18:34:41 | amiconn | The individual panels are all a little different, that's normal |
18:35:27 | Hazer | Hrm... I'll have to check that when I finish charging it. After everything has been edited I can hand edit the file to create additional 'sub-lists' from there.... but getting the master list of a couple of thousand songs was going to be a pain. |
18:36:12 | jhMikeS | looked excellent here and for preglow |
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19:25:34 | fnord__ | hmm |
19:25:47 | fnord__ | i copied doom1.wad to /games/doom/ |
19:25:53 | fnord__ | but the plugin does not find it |
19:25:57 | fnord__ | whats wrong? |
19:27:29 | fnord__ | rockdoom.wad, i guess |
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19:40:32 | Gnelik | dan_a: Hi! |
19:40:46 | n1s | wow... iriver released a new firmware for the h300 with minesweeper and some sort of limited otf playlist (!) (and this player has been out of production for about a year...) |
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19:41:28 | dan_a | Gnelik: Hello |
19:42:06 | Gnelik | dan_a: You rock! |
19:42:22 | Gnelik | ;) |
19:42:46 | dan_a | MrH rocks. I just test the things he suggests! |
19:42:58 | netmasta10bt | whats news from mrh? |
19:43:37 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: He found out why we couldn't boot a normal build of Rockbox on the Sansa (amongst other things) |
19:43:55 | netmasta10bt | ah very good |
19:43:58 | Gnelik | dan_a: What is our first point for now |
19:44:05 | Gnelik | ??? |
19:44:21 | Gnelik | Usb, power? |
19:45:25 | netmasta10bt | that was the e200_5 patch? |
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19:45:53 | dan_a | Gnelik: USB would be very useful - it would mean we didn't have to go to the original firmware to copy files over. Working out how to dual-boot would be good. Sound would make Rockbox do what it is meant to ;) Dual-booting would make going back to the OF easy. |
19:46:07 | dan_a | There's lots of work to be done cleaning up the code for the drivers |
19:46:31 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: It's e200_6, which I've not added to the tracker yet |
19:46:53 | dan_a | (I'm tempted to commit it without putting it in Flyspray) |
19:47:11 | dan_a | Oh, and I've got to get 6/8Gb disk access working |
19:47:15 | netmasta10bt | oh so its in good shape already, can't wait to take a look at it |
19:49:22 | dan_a | It's not brilliant - the scroll wheel doesn't work yet, so you can't go up and down in menus, and it tells you that the battery is empty after a minute's use |
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19:52:33 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: What Sansa do you have? |
19:52:45 | netmasta10bt | 4gig |
19:53:31 | dan_a | OK, then e200_6 should work for you. It's going on the tracker as we speak... |
19:53:56 | netmasta10bt | cool, i'll give it a whirl |
19:55:47 | fnord__ | hmm, the ipodrockbox themes look weired |
19:56:01 | dan_a | For some reason the full build isn't compiling for me - but "make bin" works. |
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19:58:15 | netmasta10bt | applied cleanly −− building now |
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19:58:29 | dan_a | Oh, and I must remember to add ATA callbacks to the NAND driver |
19:58:34 | netmasta10bt | well a slight offset in configure |
19:59:15 | dan_a | I think I'm probably working against about a 2 day old CVS |
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20:00:46 | Chain` | Hello can someone help me ? my english isnt that good. |
20:02:32 | dan_a | Chain`: Tell us your problem, and someone who knows how to help will |
20:02:44 | netmasta10bt | dan_a: make bin works, but im having a hangup on the ogg codec −− prolly something on my system |
20:03:16 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: No, I have that too. Something to do with IRAM which I haven't figured out yet. |
20:03:32 | Chain` | i installed rockbox on my ipod Foto (20GB Edition) all the nice extras works fine even doom, but it lags on playing mp3s... |
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20:05:49 | dan_a | Chain`: That is a known problem on the iPods. Change your theme to one which doesn't have the volume level meters |
20:08:26 | Slasheri | hmm, it seems i can't compile m68k-elf support for the new xen.ihme.org build server |
20:08:29 | Slasheri | ../../gcc-3.4.6/gcc/libgcc2.c:1277: internal compiler error: in do_SUBST, at combine.c:447 |
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20:08:37 | Slasheri | compiler fails with an internal error.. |
20:09:23 | Chain` | thanks but where do i do that ? |
20:10:11 | amiconn | Slasheri: Ooooolld problem :) |
20:10:21 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, do you know a fix? =) |
20:10:27 | Slasheri | should i try with older compiler? |
20:10:30 | Slasheri | gcc 4.1 fails |
20:10:57 | dan_a | Chain`: Go to the main menu (by pressing "menu",) then select "browse themes" |
20:10:57 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
20:11:04 | amiconn | Scroll all the way down |
20:11:15 | amiconn | m68k-elf-gcc should be 3.4.6 and nothing else |
20:11:25 | amiconn | 4.x makes worse code |
20:11:31 | Chain` | Thanx :P found allready, i just didnt imagined that it could be that easy . |
20:11:43 | Slasheri | amiconn: yes, but that is compiling the m68k-elf compiler |
20:11:54 | Slasheri | and i though rockboxdev.sh should do it correctly |
20:12:06 | amiconn | It obviously doesn't |
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20:12:19 | amiconn | I wouldn't know, I've built all my crosscompilers manually |
20:13:05 | amiconn | Btw, that failure isn't in the host gcc. It's in the intermediate cross-compiler (xgcc) that is used to build the full one |
20:14:15 | Lear | Slasheri: On 64-bit Linux? |
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20:14:47 | Lear | I'm pretty sure I've seen that error, don't quite remember when though... |
20:15:00 | Slasheri | Lear: yep, athlon 64 dual core |
20:15:03 | amiconn | Slasheri: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler , last appended file |
20:15:20 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, nice =) |
20:15:21 | amiconn | I am running an amd64 build server myself... |
20:15:28 | Slasheri | then i will try it |
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20:16:51 | Quelsaruk | hi all |
20:20:01 | amiconn | hola |
20:21:11 | Slasheri | |This patch will fix the m68k-elf builds on AMD64 machines. But don't use it, |
20:21:11 | Slasheri | |because it is unclear if the assertion or the code calling do_SUBST is at |
20:21:11 | Slasheri | |fault. You have been warned. |
20:21:20 | Slasheri | hehe, well i don't have an option :) |
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20:22:29 | Slasheri | amiconn: do you think it should work correctly? |
20:22:45 | n1s | Slasheri: I use it and it works fine |
20:23:13 | Slasheri | ok, great |
20:23:14 | n1s | On 64 bit ubuntu edy eft (Pentium D dual core) |
20:23:22 | amiconn | [20:15:20] <amiconn> I am running an amd64 build server myself... |
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20:23:53 | amiconn | I compared several coldfire builds built-on-amd64 vs. built-on-x86 |
20:23:59 | amiconn | They were binary identical |
20:24:11 | netmasta10bt | hmm I disabled the tremor build and got everything to compile |
20:25:02 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: It sounds like you're about to say "but..." |
20:25:18 | netmasta10bt | i prefixed a but :) |
20:25:24 | netmasta10bt | no tremor |
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20:26:10 | dan_a | I wouldn't worry too much about Tremor not working yet. |
20:26:30 | dan_a | After all, *sound* doesn't work at the moment! |
20:26:46 | netmasta10bt | yeah −− no doubts −− just a weird error though |
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20:28:09 | dan_a | I know. Hopefully I'll work it out soon. After all, how hard can it be? |
20:28:19 | n1s | :-D |
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20:29:49 | corynthe | hi , proud members of the rockbox academy ! |
20:30:27 | netmasta10bt | :) −− bootloader doesn't compile now :-/ |
20:31:14 | dan_a | Oops. I'll fix that when I've finished my tea |
20:31:22 | dan_a | Hi, corynthe! |
20:35:09 | corynthe | congrat to mrH, dan_a for sansa :) |
20:35:37 | dan_a | Thank you |
20:36:32 | corynthe | dumb question: if a rom as nemesis for zx80 works on the simulatior, it should work on the real beast ? |
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20:37:36 | corynthe | i went crazy when discovering http://www.worldofspectrum.org/games/ for oooooooold games i loved :) |
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20:38:38 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, patch didn't help.. compiler still failing with that internal error |
20:39:02 | amiconn | Clean rebuild? It worked here... |
20:39:10 | Slasheri | oh, i patched it wrong |
20:39:28 | Slasheri | (needed to manually apply the patch and forget to comment the abort()) |
20:39:54 | Slasheri | ok, now it seems to compile better :) |
20:39:57 | amiconn | Why manually? |
20:40:43 | Slasheri | patch didn't apply cleanly, there were some minimal syntax changes |
20:40:58 | amiconn | Uh? The patch is for 3.4.6 sources... |
20:40:59 | Slasheri | but now it compiled.. :) |
20:41:10 | Slasheri | yep, i have 3.4.6 too |
20:41:13 | Slasheri | interesting |
20:41:17 | amiconn | odd... |
20:42:02 | amiconn | Btw, it should be easy to fix the (one-time) warning your box threw (regarding sh2d) |
20:42:09 | amiconn | I am looking into that |
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20:43:12 | Slasheri | amiconn: i am not sure why it throw the .rej file, probably identation issue |
20:43:35 | amiconn | sh2d.c:444: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different size |
20:43:35 | amiconn | sh2d.c:444: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size |
20:43:47 | amiconn | Casting a pointer to int won't work properly on amd64... |
20:43:57 | Slasheri | hmm |
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20:44:30 | amiconn | Hmm, does inttypes.h exist in a standard (host-) gcc install? |
20:44:44 | Slasheri | checking |
20:45:07 | Slasheri | /usr/include/inttypes.h |
20:45:12 | Slasheri | yep, it should exist |
20:45:16 | amiconn | goodie |
20:45:36 | amiconn | Then I'll use the correct integer type for pointers |
20:47:25 | mirak | hello ! |
20:47:55 | amiconn | Hmm, it's stdint.h |
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20:58:43 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: I've fixed both of those problems |
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21:00:35 | netmasta10bt | hey cool −− i was trying to figure out the define thing in kernel.c |
21:01:28 | dan_a | That line should read: #if !defined(CPU_PP) || !defined(BOOTLOADER) |
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21:08:51 | * | z0de is so sexy |
21:09:22 | * | z0de 's elitness brings all the nerds to the yard |
21:13:44 | netmasta10bt | you got tremor working too ? |
21:15:45 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: Edit firmware/export/config-e200.h and add the line "#define ICODE_ATTR_TREMOR_NOT_MDCT |
21:15:48 | dan_a | " |
21:19:08 | netmasta10bt | ahh −− thx 4 u'r help |
21:19:29 | dan_a | No problem :D |
21:23:21 | corynthe | what choice to build the sansa ? Build (N)ormal, (D)evel, (S)imulator, (B)ootloader, (M)anual, (V)oice? (N) |
21:23:41 | corynthe | N D ? |
21:24:55 | dan_a | corynthe: Remembering that it's in development at the moment, and lots of things don't work - either B or (with the patch in Flyspray) N |
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21:25:43 | corynthe | thanks, i know bould like too see the logo by myself :) |
21:25:56 | netmasta10bt | mi4code isnt in cvs is it ? |
21:26:03 | netmasta10bt | required for the build i think |
21:26:26 | corynthe | know bould = know but would like |
21:27:05 | corynthe | ah, ver my knowledge |
21:27:11 | corynthe | over |
21:28:17 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: I hadn't realised that it wasn't. It's at http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/mi4.html |
21:28:52 | netmasta10bt | yeah i have it −− just letting crynthe know |
21:30:44 | corynthe | is it needed to install the firmare ? |
21:31:30 | netmasta10bt | you need it to sign the firmware |
21:31:31 | corynthe | btw i have warnings with configure |
21:31:42 | corynthe | netmasta10bt: ok |
21:35:57 | corynthe | :( cant find a arm-elf-gcc |
21:36:05 | corynthe | for ubuntu |
21:36:22 | netmasta10bt | theres a script in the tools dir called rockbox-dev |
21:36:24 | hcs | the build script works well |
21:36:42 | netmasta10bt | er rockboxdev −− it will download and compile the compiler for u |
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21:37:02 | corynthe | thankc |
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22:12:57 | Davide-NYC | jhMikeS: what's that patch v27.1 on the wiki? |
22:13:07 | Davide-NYC | the menu recoding one |
22:16:15 | Davide-NYC | my man where you at? |
22:16:17 | Davide-NYC | :-) |
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22:24:12 | preglow | amiconn: a proper bugfix has been checked in the gcc 4.2 (for 64 bit m68k) |
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22:34:41 | preglow | w00t, realtime effects! |
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22:39:42 | Goldeye | heya. anyone familliar with rockbox on the h10? |
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22:55:58 | netmasta10bt | so I got rockbox built for the sansa... I'm guessing I need to copy the .rockbox dir over b4 I flash and then it will work? |
22:56:27 | netmasta10bt | granted w/o sound and everything |
22:56:37 | dan_a | Try it and see! |
22:56:47 | netmasta10bt | ok I'll have to wait till i get home :) |
22:56:54 | netmasta10bt | no cable here |
22:57:13 | dan_a | You'll get to the menus, but up/down doesn't work. |
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22:58:29 | netmasta10bt | well thats cool enough −− i haven't got to play w/ rockbox at all yet |
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23:00:28 | fnord__ | is rockboy already in the distro, or do i have to get it from another source |
23:00:29 | fnord__ | ? |
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23:04:19 | linuxstb_ | fnord__: It's included - just select a .gb or .gbc file in the file browser to start it. |
23:04:54 | sansadict | mecdrole: hahahaha |
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23:08:29 | Terinjokes | ah, that explains all the weird jpop and nature songs that i've last.fm has been recommonding me |
23:09:21 | Terinjokes | At the top of my dashboard it says they are having problems today...kinda sucls |
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23:12:04 | t0dk0n | If I do 'initialize now' accidentally a second time, all it does is rewrite the tagcache, right? |
23:12:09 | t0dk0n | or will it mess anything up? :P |
23:13:02 | Terinjokes | it rewrites the tagcache (sorta like update) |
23:13:17 | t0dk0n | ah okay |
23:13:24 | |Rincewind| | but you lose your playcount data |
23:13:29 | t0dk0n | aww, damn |
23:13:31 | t0dk0n | thanks ^_^ |
23:14:28 | preglow | linuxstb_: tried out the mpegplayer patch? |
23:15:09 | amiconn | preglow: I know that there was a fix checked in to gcc cvs at some point, but we don't want gcc 4.x for coldfire yet, do we? |
23:15:11 | Terinjokes | i tried mpegplayer, froze up my 'pod |
23:15:19 | preglow | amiconn: just thought about backporting the fix |
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23:17:19 | dan_a | The cube plugin is all flickery on the Sansa - it looks like I need to do more work on the LCD driver. But for now I'm going to bask in the happy glow of having run a plugin. |
23:17:33 | sansadict | :) |
23:18:24 | amiconn | dan_a: I'm a bit late, but congrats for your Sansa progress! :) |
23:18:39 | dan_a | amiconn: Thank you! |
23:18:44 | amiconn | Did you get the bank switching right meanwhile? |
23:18:44 | linuxstb_ | preglow: I've read it, but haven't tried it. The patch doesn't seem to do very much at the moment, but it's good that someone else is working on it. |
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23:19:20 | dan_a | I don't know. It works switching from bank 0 to bank 0, but I can't test any more than that. |
23:20:44 | dan_a | Should I commit drivers which still need lots of work (e.g. error handling)? Or hold off until that work has been done? |
23:21:29 | amiconn | I guess it's up to you |
23:21:47 | preglow | linuxstb_: well, it doesn't require you to create raw streams anymore |
23:21:49 | amiconn | cvs is mean for collaborative work |
23:22:12 | amiconn | ...but then many parts of rockbox tend to be the area of only a few, if not one, developer |
23:22:16 | preglow | dan_a: commit often |
23:22:25 | preglow | i'd say just put it in |
23:22:29 | amiconn | *is meant, of course |
23:22:59 | amiconn | The first version of the Ondio mmc driver was also far from perfect |
23:23:08 | sansadict | buildzip.pl gives me errors with a file missing "autoconf.h" on the script execution. Can it be an error due to the cvs ? |
23:23:14 | amiconn | Iirc it couldn't even write at all |
23:23:29 | dan_a | I think I'll go for it :) |
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23:24:28 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/drivers/ata_mmc.c Check the commit messages for version 1.7 ff |
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23:27:27 | duncanmv | anyone knows if rockbox works in this machine or its clones? http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite/Typhoon-baladeur-MP3-9994/ |
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23:29:04 | zivan56 | dan_a, congrats on getting rockbox to boot on the sansa :) |
23:29:13 | dan_a | Thank you! |
23:33:15 | zivan56 | I tried getting it to boot on my 2gb sansa, but it stops in disk.c at "No partition found, trying to mount sector 0." I probably need to debug fat.c to see why (returns mounted = 0) |
23:33:36 | zivan56 | cygwin is acting up so I can't do a debug build, heh |
23:33:45 | dan_a | zivan56: Which version of the patch are you using? |
23:34:03 | zivan56 | the latest _6 |
23:35:47 | dan_a | I can send you some pre-built .mi4s, if you want to test? |
23:35:51 | zivan56 | sure |
23:36:51 | sansadict | i feel lost. Could someone give me the few lines needed to build a fresh B from cvs downloader dir ? |
23:37:10 | sansadict | downloaded dir |
23:38:32 | sansadict | "I can send you some pre-built .mi4s" could you for me too ? |
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23:41:20 | dan_a | sansadict: What model Sansa do you have? |
23:42:03 | sansadict | dan_a : 6gb |
23:42:06 | dan_a | zivan56: I've sent you a whole rockbox.zip - it has an mi4 file in it. |
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23:44:38 | sansadict | im toooo dumb, dont manage to build |
23:44:40 | dan_a | sansadict: Can you let me know your email address? PM me on the forum if you don't want to put it on here |
23:44:46 | zivan56 | dan_a: didn't get it. How big was it approx? |
23:45:14 | dan_a | zivan56: 3Mb |
23:45:21 | sansadict | bistouri at geeeemêêêêêl |
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23:46:18 | sansadict | but, to reverse to older firmware (official one) ? |
23:46:21 | zivan56 | ah, god it |
23:46:27 | zivan56 | *got |
23:47:04 | midgey34 | pixelma: have you had a chance to look at the newest version of blackjack on the ondio? |
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23:48:12 | zivan56 | dan_a: Still the same result unfortunately. I don't see any error messages, just the logo and nothing else. |
23:48:31 | zivan56 | dan_a: the only reason I saw that message was due to me putting lcd_puts everywhere... |
23:49:57 | Goldeye | anyone awake familliar with rockbox on the h10? |
23:50:03 | dan_a | sansadict: You will need a copy of the original firmware, which is an .mi4 file. |
23:51:26 | dan_a | zivan56: The problem is very likely to be in ata-e200.c - you could try seeing if ata_read_sectors is running correctly |
23:52:40 | zivan56 | dan_a: any way to stop rockbox execution eaasily? panic()? |
23:53:05 | sansadict | dan_a : god, ive seen on a recent link here the european .mi4 so no trouble. |
23:53:16 | dan_a | zivan56: I just use "while(1) {}" |
23:53:21 | zivan56 | dan_a: I put a lcd_puts under that function, but never actually see it |
23:53:30 | zivan56 | dan_a: good idea :) |
23:53:34 | dan_a | sansadict: OK - there's an email on its way to you |
23:54:08 | sansadict | Where do i have to put the file to change the firmware (im on linux with sansa mounted) |
23:54:24 | sansadict | dan_a : thanks a lot |
23:54:26 | pixelma | midgey34: yes I did even on target :) I like it much better now, but the evaluation of the round is a bit strangely aligned still (meaning "You have xx" is left aligned the rest is centered) |
23:54:28 | dan_a | zivan56: Does ata_init() work correctly? |
23:54:41 | dan_a | sansadict: In the root of the Sansa |
23:54:56 | midgey34 | pixelma: you think that should be center aligned? |
23:55:35 | sansadict | ok |
23:57:03 | pixelma | midgey34: that's hard to say because it also refers to "dealer" and "player"... |
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23:57:19 | zivan56 | dan_a: it gets through ata_init |
23:57:53 | midgey34 | hmm |
23:58:31 | pixelma | I have no idea about it atm but it looks a bit strange |