| 00:00:43 | zivan56 | dan_a: goes to the part: if(current_card == 0) |
| 00:01:13 | zivan56 | then goes to else statement: else { sd_select_bank(0); |
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| 00:02:55 | zivan56 | dan_a: seems to get out of sd_select_bank.... |
| 00:03:37 | sansadict | dan_a : received, ill test it once i will have finished downloading original firmware. |
| 00:04:33 | dan_a | zivan56: It will probably stop in one of the while loops, or possibly calling sd_send_command |
| 00:04:40 | pixelma | midgey34: is it possible to put everything in the splash (though I don't know if it will look any better) |
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| 00:07:19 | Bob7k | hi |
| 00:07:31 | zivan56 | dan_a: that's as far as I am able to debug it without reading up on specs for sd (if any) |
| 00:07:32 | netmasta10bt | dan_a: it works! sorta :) |
| 00:07:39 | Bob7k | i was wondering, is there anything for the AV500? |
| 00:07:53 | Bob7k | or just the older archos' |
| 00:08:59 | dan_a | zivan56: Without tracing it into the subroutines, can you find out which is the last line in ata_read_sectors which works? |
| 00:09:04 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: Yay! |
| 00:09:17 | midgey34 | pixelma: it's possible but it would require a fair amount of code reshuffling |
| 00:09:38 | Bob7k | whats going on? |
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| 00:11:29 | netmasta10bt | dan_a: good job! we know how to turn off the scroll led right? I might have to dig that up and see if I can't get it turn off unless there is a button press, and also tell RB not to check battery until we can actually get a status |
| 00:11:30 | dan_a | Bob7k: I don't think anything has been done for the AV500 |
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| 00:11:37 | Bob7k | aww |
| 00:11:56 | pixelma | midgey34: maybe it's not worth the effort |
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| 00:12:34 | Bob7k | i wonder if anything will ever be done with it, cuz i have some great ideas |
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| 00:12:58 | Bob7k | some might be impossible, but its just modifying the exsisting firmware |
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| 00:14:20 | dan_a | Bob7k: Have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 00:14:29 | Bob7k | ok |
| 00:15:44 | sansadict | It boots :) |
| 00:16:05 | dan_a | sansadict: Does it get as far as giving you a list of files |
| 00:16:53 | sansadict | dan_a : it list all my directory but i cant go further |
| 00:16:58 | pixelma | midgey34: btw the chosen buttons are very intuitive on Ondio - I had a harder time trying it in a H300 sim (I guess it has too many buttons for me) :) |
| 00:17:28 | sansadict | dan_a : says battery is empty (they were full) |
| 00:17:36 | Bob7k | this is way above me, looks like i might never get to hack my archos, ohwell, ill see what a few friends say about it |
| 00:17:45 | dan_a | sansadict: That is because the scroll wheel doesn't work yet. But that means that 6 and 8Gb Sansas should work |
| 00:18:12 | dan_a | And don't worry about the battery - we don't know how to check the battery level yet |
| 00:18:24 | sansadict | dan_a : and write shutting down with no effect. i stopped it with the "15 sec press" |
| 00:18:29 | zivan56 | dan_a: when I trying to print anything meaningful, it gives me squares on a line |
| 00:18:33 | zivan56 | dan_a:ex snprintf("ata_r(s:%u)(inc:%u)",start, incount); |
| 00:18:56 | sansadict | dan_a : right button doesnt seems to work |
| 00:19:32 | sansadict | dan_a : little annoying thing : i dont manage to mount it on linux anymore |
| 00:19:48 | dan_a | zivan56: Shouldn't that be snprintf(buf, sizeof(buf), "ata_r(s:%u)(inc:%u)",start,incount) ? |
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| 00:20:03 | dan_a | sansadict: No, we don't know how to use the USB yet |
| 00:20:10 | zivan56 | dan_a: err, sure, I haven't done any C is years :) |
| 00:20:31 | dan_a | zivan56: No worries! |
| 00:20:48 | sansadict | dan_a : promising |
| 00:21:21 | sansadict | i see a lot of work has been done |
| 00:21:39 | zivan56 | dan_a: strange thing now is your mi4 file doesn't get to the logo now, just the insert usb part |
| 00:23:11 | dan_a | Is that the "no partition found" message? |
| 00:23:27 | zivan56 | yes |
| 00:24:33 | dan_a | zivan56: Does everything still look OK in the original firmware? |
| 00:25:13 | midgey34 | pixelma: thats good to hear! i was hoping they weren't awkward for ondio; i think they are for other targets |
| 00:25:22 | midgey34 | pixelma: how does this look |
| 00:25:28 | midgey34 | http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6215/dump0001qu4.png |
| 00:26:06 | zivan56 | dan_a: yes, no problems at all |
| 00:26:45 | zivan56 | I couldn't get that sprintf to work, it keeps getting overwriten, and putting a clear screen before it resulted in garbage on the screen |
| 00:27:01 | preglow | \o/ |
| 00:27:16 | pixelma | midgey34: I like it better |
| 00:27:43 | midgey34 | do you think "push" should be above "you have xx" or below |
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| 00:28:59 | dan_a | zivan56: Did you do: snprintf(buffer, sizeof(buffer), "Stuff to print"); lcd_puts(0,20,buf); lcd_update(); |
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| 00:29:46 | pixelma | midgey34: it would be more logical if it was below I think |
| 00:29:54 | midgey34 | all right |
| 00:30:02 | midgey34 | dan_a: nice commit |
| 00:30:20 | dan_a | midgey34: There's more where that came from :D |
| 00:30:35 | midgey34 | \o/ |
| 00:31:05 | zivan56 | dan_a: nope, not too familiar with how rockbox does stuff, I will try it again later on, I have tons of other stuff waiting for me unfortunately |
| 00:31:36 | zivan56 | hopefully its just a small corruption in the FS somewhere |
| 00:31:40 | dan_a | zivan56: No problem. Thanks for your help so far! |
| 00:31:54 | zivan56 | dan_a: no problem, thanks for the patches :) |
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| 00:35:46 | netmasta10bt | dan_a: i changed button_scroll_down in the keymap to button_down (and up) so that works ok in the menu |
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| 00:36:31 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: I did that too - I've tried a few plugins (not Doom yet, though!) |
| 00:37:24 | netmasta10bt | agh, my music dir is hidden −− is there a way in rb to unhide it ? |
| 00:39:24 | preglow | jhMikeS: got a quick flanger going right now |
| 00:39:54 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: General Settings->File View->Show Files->All |
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| 00:41:42 | preglow | hrm |
| 00:41:55 | preglow | it grows more and more clicky with time |
| 00:43:42 | sansadict | dan_a : i see files too :) |
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| 00:43:52 | netmasta10bt | man, it boots so much faster :) |
| 00:47:09 | netmasta10bt | looks like it tried to write the config −− it made the file but didnt write anything |
| 00:50:51 | dan_a | Are you sure it didn't write anything? I've just tried saving a config file on mine, and then viewing it (by holding down play and opening it with the text editor) and that worked fine |
| 00:54:28 | netmasta10bt | i think I hit the center button, then there were numbers in the top left flipping like 01 02 01 then i couldn't do anything and i had to 15second poweroff |
| 00:54:31 | dan_a | And Tagcache seems to work... |
| 00:54:57 | netmasta10bt | let me try again |
| 00:58:08 | sansadict | * update of the database is sooo looong |
| 00:58:51 | dan_a | sansadict: On the original firmware? Or tagcache? |
| 00:59:04 | netmasta10bt | yeah it wants to save as /.rockbox/config02.cfg −− i hit the center button and then it starts like a play timer that flashes numbers 0:?? - then i can't do anything |
| 00:59:12 | sansadict | original before it reboots on rockbox |
| 00:59:52 | netmasta10bt | so its making the file, but its empty |
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| 01:01:36 | sansadict | dan_a : its weird. button 6 (on the simulator) aslo called right from the wheel doesnt work all the time. I cant go il "themes" for example. |
| 01:02:15 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: Can you go into Info->Rockbox Info and tell me how much disk space (free and used) it says you have |
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| 01:03:36 | sansadict | dan_a: ->general settings OK display OK browse fonts |blocked| |
| 01:03:38 | netmasta10bt | Dis: 3.71GB Free: 337MB |
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| 01:04:10 | dan_a | sansadict: Do you have any fonts installed? |
| 01:04:26 | sansadict | dan_a: errr, no |
| 01:04:46 | sansadict | dan_a: but cant go in plugins neither |
| 01:05:05 | dan_a | There possibly aren't on the sim. It works in the real firmware. |
| 01:05:33 | sansadict | dan_a: no i restartedon your real rockbox firmware |
| 01:05:43 | sansadict | restarted on |
| 01:05:56 | sansadict | even broken, i love it :) |
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| 01:07:20 | sansadict | number from the sim was just to well locate it (for those who drank a lot of beers) |
| 01:08:35 | sansadict | burp |
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| 01:13:38 | shrimants | hello |
| 01:13:43 | sansadict | hi |
| 01:13:53 | shrimants | so i just got rockbox for my ipod |
| 01:14:01 | shrimants | and i got all my playlists set up and junk |
| 01:14:13 | shrimants | and now i realize |
| 01:14:20 | shrimants | that the scroll speed is like insanely slow |
| 01:15:31 | PaulPosition | shrimant - There's an option for the scroll speed in settings->general->Display->scrolling |
| 01:15:37 | PaulPosition | might have a look... |
| 01:15:44 | shrimants | i just toyed with that |
| 01:15:47 | shrimants | i put it to 15 |
| 01:15:52 | shrimants | im guessing thats the fastest |
| 01:16:36 | shrimants | it seems that the scroll that its talking about |
| 01:16:41 | shrimants | is how fast text scrolls |
| 01:16:44 | shrimants | across the WPS |
| 01:16:50 | PaulPosition | arrr right. duh |
| 01:16:52 | shrimants | instead of how fast the cursor chooses the next thing |
| 01:17:01 | shrimants | its ok, i had my hopes up too |
| 01:17:02 | PaulPosition | my mistake. |
| 01:17:04 | shrimants | lol |
| 01:19:07 | shrimants | god damn tho this is SO sexy |
| 01:19:25 | shrimants | there is a patch that sets the scroll to a 4 step |
| 01:19:41 | shrimants | but i have no idea how to apply it, nor do i want to start screwing with the files like that |
| 01:19:46 | shrimants | i found the lwalk through |
| 01:20:02 | shrimants | but the commands are a foreign language to me, and i'd rather not screw with anything |
| 01:21:29 | goffa | well they are probably linux based commands |
| 01:21:38 | goffa | not that you can't patch in windows |
| 01:21:55 | goffa | you pretty much have to get the source and compile that way |
| 01:21:56 | shrimants | i no, u use cygwin with the Patch utility to patch it |
| 01:22:47 | goffa | worst case scenario is that the patch doesn't work.. and you put the daily build back on |
| 01:23:33 | shrimants | yeah |
| 01:23:35 | shrimants | good point |
| 01:24:51 | amiconn | You can enable paged scrolling in the settings |
| 01:25:22 | shrimants | would that make the scroll bar go faster? |
| 01:25:23 | amiconn | Line-wise scrolling is slow on ipod video because the lcd update is slow |
| 01:25:34 | shrimants | oh ok |
| 01:25:50 | amiconn | Paged scrolling only has to refresh the whole screen if it changes page |
| 01:26:04 | shrimants | o i alreaday have that on |
| 01:26:15 | shrimants | i stil lhave to scroll all the way down to the file tho |
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| 01:26:25 | shrimants | there is a patch for 4 step acceleration i could try |
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| 01:26:33 | shrimants | im just getting the cygwin file and util |
| 01:26:41 | amiconn | On some platforms you can also scroll by page |
| 01:27:03 | amiconn | Dunno whether this is working on ipod (i.e. there is a working button combo for it) |
| 01:27:39 | amiconn | I never use scrolling by page, line-wise was always fast enough for me on my various targets |
| 01:27:55 | amiconn | (which include an ipod but not a 5G) |
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| 01:30:56 | shrimants | bah im gonna do this later |
| 01:31:05 | preglow | keeping a flangering h120 next to oneself is really distracting |
| 01:31:13 | rasher | preglow: commit! |
| 01:31:50 | preglow | pretty testish code as of yet |
| 01:31:57 | preglow | should put in a menu with parameters and stuff as well |
| 01:32:03 | preglow | next stop: reverb |
| 01:32:09 | dan_a | preglow: What files does it touch? I'm in the middle of some Sansa commits, if you're about to commit anything |
| 01:32:25 | sansadict | dan_a: thanks a lot, i had a great moment. when would be finished builds (meaning distribuable rockbox.zip) downloadable to test often and see evolutions ? |
| 01:32:32 | preglow | dan_a: not about to commit anything at all |
| 01:32:40 | preglow | if i'll ever commit it, it's a long time off |
| 01:32:54 | dan_a | That's a relief! |
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| 01:33:19 | preglow | a sound effect plugin sounds somewhat out of main rockbox scope, heh |
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| 01:33:25 | dan_a | sansadict: When there's less things missing, and I can't say when that will be |
| 01:33:28 | preglow | unless i manage to squeeze lots of them into one plugin, that might work |
| 01:34:38 | amiconn | preglow: Not farther outside the scope than e.g. the metronome plugin |
| 01:35:06 | amiconn | But these sound effects are clearly plugin stuff, nothing for core inclusion |
| 01:35:18 | sansadict | never mind, ill come often :) |
| 01:35:46 | sansadict | bye, ut 2004 calls me (kill, kill) |
| 01:35:55 | amiconn | preglow: Did you find why it was starting to click? |
| 01:36:04 | amiconn | There's still a clicky resampler to fix... |
| 01:38:57 | preglow | amiconn: hmm, no, the problem vanished, suddenly |
| 01:39:23 | preglow | probably the naive buffering messing up |
| 01:40:01 | preglow | the clicky resampler really doesn't depend on me to fix it, i'm 99% sure it's not even a bug in my code |
| 01:40:05 | preglow | but it's on my list |
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| 01:45:38 | preglow | bedtime |
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| 01:58:03 | dan_a | Phew! All green! |
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| 01:59:47 | pixelma | dan_a: congrats (for the quick progress too)! |
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| 02:00:38 | dan_a | pixelma: Thank you! |
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| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | whew, rb sure eats up the battery −− do we know if it charges in recovery mode ? |
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| 02:07:56 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: I'm pretty sure it charges whenever it's plugged into the USB. I went for about 3 months without booting into the original firmware, and the battery didn't die on me :) |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | ah good |
| 02:07:56 | dan_a | Remember that we don't know how to read the battery level yet, so don't believe what Rockbox tells you |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | sure −− i've been trying to find a good way to turn that msg off |
| 02:07:56 | dan_a | Find out how to read the battery properly ;) |
| 02:07:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK netmasta10bt |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | ah incentive :) |
| 02:07:56 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK dan_a |
| 02:07:56 | dan_a | Does the clock on your Sansa tell you it's 2:02? |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | yeah |
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| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | never changes |
| 02:07:56 | dan_a | We can't read the RTC yet, either, then! |
| 02:07:56 | hcs | meh, it's always right once a day |
| 02:07:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | twice :) |
| 02:07:56 | hcs | ooh |
| 02:07:56 | *** | Alert Mode level 3 |
| 02:07:56 | netmasta10bt | oh there is a leading 0 .. |
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| 02:43:30 | excitatory | is it normal for transfer rates to an ipod video to be at least 4 times faster than a nano? |
| 02:43:38 | excitatory | on the same linux pc |
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| 03:08:03 | Goldeye | anyone familliar with rockbox on the h10? |
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| 03:10:09 | Goldeye | I'm having a pretty bad experience with it batterywise |
| 03:11:47 | dan_a | Goldeye: I don't know about the H10 in particular, but it is built around similar hardware to the iPod. There are a lot of things built into one of the chips which we don't know how to control - so we are probably wasting a lot of power there. |
| 03:13:32 | dan_a | If you can avoid doing things that make the disk spin, and avoid doing things that use too much CPU power (so that the CPU can be kept running at its slowest speed for more of the time) then this might help. |
| 03:13:40 | dan_a | How bad is it? |
| 03:13:59 | Goldeye | my first day with it, it died in the course of the day |
| 03:14:05 | Goldeye | maybe an hour of music |
| 03:14:20 | Goldeye | it wasn't shutting down properly from the look of it |
| 03:14:37 | Goldeye | if you shut down, does it reboot completely or go into a standby-like state? |
| 03:14:57 | Goldeye | well, I know which it was doing. but which it was supposed to is what concerns me |
| 03:16:06 | dan_a | An hour sounds a bit too short. I don't know what the iriver can do, and what we can do with the iriver, but if we can turn it off completely then we should be doing that. |
| 03:16:43 | Goldeye | when I was setting it up, if I tried turning it off it shut completely, then during this day it said shutting down, and didn't. |
| 03:17:20 | Goldeye | even so I don't know why it'd be dying in 7 hours of doing nothing. :( |
| 03:19:05 | dan_a | If it didn't turn off properly, then 7 hours battery life might be expected. Did it seem like it crashed when it was shutting down? |
| 03:19:57 | Goldeye | nope. backlight and/or lcd shut off as though by timer, and pushing any button put it right back to before I pushed power. without any reboot. |
| 03:20:22 | Goldeye | I recall seeing it still saying shutting down inbetween the button press and going back to whatever it was on before |
| 03:20:54 | dan_a | That sounds strange and wrong, but I'm afraid I don't know what to suggest to help. |
| 03:21:38 | Goldeye | might've been a fluke |
| 03:22:30 | Goldeye | does rockbox usually shut down when power is low but it's plugged in, or is that an h10 thing? |
| 03:22:54 | dan_a | If it keeps on happening, the best thing to do will be to file a bug report in http://www.rockbox.org/tracker - or try and catch barrywardell in here, but I've not seen him around for a couple of days. |
| 03:23:38 | dan_a | If it isn't charging and the power is low, then Rockbox does try to shut down. |
| 03:24:19 | Goldeye | if not, and I find some time, I might just have to do it myself :( |
| 03:24:46 | Goldeye | now, plugged in, it seems to be behaving right. :P |
| 03:25:42 | Goldeye | random question. is there an alarm plugin or anything of the like |
| 03:28:01 | dan_a | I don't know. Sorry. |
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| 03:33:38 | Goldeye | ah now it shut down well enough :P |
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| 06:08:32 | shrimants | hello everyone |
| 06:08:35 | shrimants | who is alive |
| 06:09:48 | shrimants | o...k... i guess no one |
| 06:09:51 | shrimants | poodoo |
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| 06:20:40 | jba | hey guys quick question i asked elsewhere: |
| 06:20:40 | jba | <jba> is there a file browser on the vmware dev platform |
| 06:20:42 | jba | <jba> i can't do a mv * ./newfolder; cause of the way the mv command expands wildcards |
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| 06:29:41 | jba | not love for jba in #rockbox |
| 06:31:16 | jba | wonder if i can just apt get rox filer or something |
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| 06:31:22 | * | jba googles |
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| 06:45:01 | goffa | jba: i think its rox-filer |
| 06:45:10 | goffa | but you can aptitude search rox |
| 06:45:15 | goffa | i'm probably way too late |
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| 06:46:05 | goffa | you see this jba |
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| 06:46:18 | goffa | 22:50 < goffa> jba: i think its rox-filer |
| 06:46:19 | goffa | 22:51 < goffa> but you can aptitude search rox |
| 06:46:19 | goffa | 22:51 < goffa> i'm probably way too late |
| 06:46:23 | jba | am seeing it now |
| 06:46:27 | goffa | i like thunar better |
| 06:46:33 | jba | thunar? |
| 06:46:48 | goffa | just another file manager |
| 06:46:58 | jba | goffa i accidentally changed to twm and i can't get baclk to fluxbox |
| 06:47:01 | jba | you know how to help me? |
| 06:47:07 | * | jba feels like such a noob |
| 06:47:07 | goffa | possibly |
| 06:47:18 | goffa | um.. what are you using? |
| 06:47:22 | goffa | gdm? |
| 06:47:33 | jba | the vmware development image |
| 06:47:39 | jba | what ever it uses, yeah prolly gdm |
| 06:47:44 | jba | i just select twm in the menu by accident |
| 06:48:00 | goffa | oh.. well seems like its debian based or ubuntu based |
| 06:48:12 | goffa | but you should be able to ctrl alt backspace |
| 06:48:17 | goffa | then re login |
| 06:48:22 | goffa | checking the right box |
| 06:48:26 | goffa | it should prompt you |
| 06:48:27 | jba | will try |
| 06:49:01 | jba | good xrestart didn't fir up twm |
| 06:49:03 | jba | joy |
| 06:49:21 | goffa | cool.. so you're working right again? |
| 06:49:30 | jba | except i got no http |
| 06:49:36 | jba | power went out here and blew the swtich |
| 06:49:42 | jba | changed to different machine |
| 06:49:47 | jba | got irc and gtalk but no http |
| 06:49:47 | goffa | oh |
| 06:50:01 | goffa | odd.. does irc and gtalk go by ip? |
| 06:50:11 | goffa | i guess what i mean is do you have dns |
| 06:50:19 | goffa | or is it a port 80 thing |
| 06:50:47 | jba | it's the web proxy here |
| 06:50:50 | jba | bugger |
| 06:50:53 | goffa | oh ok |
| 06:52:32 | goffa | well... if you have ssh access to another box that has web access you could use ssh as a temp fix |
| 06:52:38 | goffa | by pointing your browser's proxy to it |
| 06:52:54 | goffa | trying to think of the ssh flag |
| 06:53:10 | jba | getting the web proxy fixed here |
| 06:53:59 | jba | was in the middle of a 50MB cvs co too |
| 06:54:06 | goffa | ouch |
| 06:54:07 | jba | proxy's back |
| 06:54:09 | jba | thanks mate |
| 06:54:46 | goffa | cool.. np.. i didn't do anything |
| 06:54:53 | goffa | but now i have to research that ssh command |
| 06:54:56 | goffa | because i'm curious |
| 06:54:57 | goffa | lol |
| 06:55:17 | goffa | i use putty at work to tunnel into my home box |
| 06:55:33 | goffa | but there's an ssh command to do it too |
| 06:55:35 | RoC_MM | hold |
| 06:55:59 | jba | what's a terminal that has better font support (for larger fonts) than e-term? |
| 06:56:02 | jba | eterm is shitting me |
| 06:56:21 | goffa | um.. a lot of people swear by xterm |
| 06:56:33 | goffa | i use Terminal.. which is a wrapper for xterm |
| 06:56:35 | jba | how do i change it's font? some rc file somewhere |
| 06:56:36 | goffa | er aterm |
| 06:57:13 | goffa | um.. its called upon launch so i think you have to make an alias in ~/.bashrc |
| 06:57:37 | goffa | with Terminal though (capital t) you can do it via the menus |
| 06:57:42 | RoC_MM | jba, Konsole |
| 06:57:54 | goffa | plus its tabbed, lightweight, etc |
| 06:58:23 | RoC_MM | jba, I think ssh might have a built-in proxy of a kind, try setting putty with this port: http://www.hackaday.com/2005/08/31/how-to-ssh-http-proxy-setup/ |
| 06:58:28 | RoC_MM | or whoever was asking |
| 06:58:34 | RoC_MM | goffa |
| 06:58:41 | jba | RoC_MM, i got web proxy up, non need for ssh |
| 06:58:48 | jba | just trying to get a larger font on xterm |
| 06:58:49 | goffa | oh.. yeah.. that's to do it with putty |
| 06:58:51 | RoC_MM | oh right |
| 06:58:56 | RoC_MM | I thought you cared about security, my bad. |
| 06:59:15 | jba | rox-filer needs gtk ? |
| 06:59:18 | goffa | theres just a flag in ssh to do it on linux |
| 06:59:29 | jba | and pango |
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| 06:59:50 | goffa | i use the hackaday method at work |
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| 07:00:16 | dantheman | any aussie girls |
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| 07:01:56 | ton | hello |
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| 07:02:14 | ton | is anyone trying to work on porting creative zen vision m |
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| 07:05:31 | jba | any terms have aa? |
| 07:05:35 | jba | like vterminal? |
| 07:05:40 | ton | what? |
| 07:05:57 | jba | trying to get anti-aliased fonts on the dev platform |
| 07:06:07 | goffa | ah... fyi its -D port# for the ssh command |
| 07:06:26 | ton | u talking to me |
| 07:06:27 | ton | ? |
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| 07:08:18 | goffa | example: ssh -D 8080 goffa@192.168.0.3 |
| 07:08:32 | goffa | then you can set your browser proxy to 8080 socks5 |
| 07:09:33 | goffa | now i can forget that again .. now that i know ;) |
| 07:13:06 | jba | damn power went out again |
| 07:13:09 | jba | that's it home time for me |
| 07:13:21 | goffa | grr.. that has to suck |
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| 07:16:31 | dantheman | hi lynx |
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| 07:24:08 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: around? |
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| 07:36:28 | jhMikeS | Genre9mp3: yes |
| 07:37:28 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: Is the adjusted gray scale balance commit planned for other screens, too? |
| 07:37:40 | Genre9mp3 | or just for H100? |
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| 07:39:45 | jhMikeS | Genre9mp3: so it was a good decision you're saying? It should cover all the ColdFire grayscale targets but someone with a device really has to be convinced to make adjustment like that. |
| 07:40:58 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: all Coldfire targets = X5 remote, too? |
| 07:40:59 | jhMikeS | I won't adjust anything I can't actually look at to see if it's right |
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| 07:41:29 | jhMikeS | Genre9mp3: I had a look at the remote and it's really dependent on the viewing angle. not consistent |
| 07:41:31 | Genre9mp3 | btw... I don't have an H100 I just saw this post: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7444.msg58427;topicseen#msg58427 |
| 07:43:27 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: the commit affects only the H100 screen though, right? |
| 07:43:27 | t0dk0n | hmm, on the nov 21 daily build, on my ipod 5g; every time I start it back up, all my settings are gone (theme, wps theme, crossfeed, bass) aren't saved, like they had used to |
| 07:43:31 | jhMikeS | There was the dithering addition as well so it could be an issue. I just adjusted the two grays on the hardware only a little. |
| 07:44:24 | Genre9mp3 | ah.. so yes, it shouldn't be your commit then |
| 07:44:26 | jhMikeS | It will only change the brightness of the two levels and won't affect any pixelation, but I will look |
| 07:44:37 | jhMikeS | I' |
| 07:44:51 | jhMikeS | m sure some themes need adjusting to the dithering |
| 07:45:29 | Genre9mp3 | well yes... I'll have to adjust iCatcher... just wanted to know if this is only for H100 but maybe it's for all grayscale screens |
| 07:45:41 | jhMikeS | When I first put dithering the HiPod Dark theme showed that the background wasn't actually black but (1, 1, 1) |
| 07:46:03 | jhMikeS | amiconn then added it for everthing |
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| 07:47:35 | jhMikeS | All targets will dither bitmaps with higher depth than the display |
| 07:48:33 | Genre9mp3 | Hmmm... as I see from amiconn's commit 4bit bmps are now supported... this is good |
| 07:49:26 | Genre9mp3 | I'll may have just to only convert the bmps and not to redraw them... this will also save some wps buffer |
| 07:50:06 | jhMikeS | yes, you could preprocess them to have the four solid colors only and it won't dither |
| 07:50:57 | Genre9mp3 | well... it will still dither from 4bit... but I could handle that better |
| 07:51:40 | Genre9mp3 | anyway... I'll just have to make some tests first |
| 07:52:14 | jhMikeS | not if it only consists of colors that don't dither |
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| 08:01:11 | jhMikeS | Genre9mp3: Looking at it I think that actually is to do with me. Before all the gray levels were practically white. Now they're more even so you can see the stray pixels that should be white. |
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| 08:21:48 | Genre9mp3 | jhMikeS: It's wrong in the sim, too so I guess it does not have to do with your commit |
| 08:23:56 | jhMikeS | In part it does. It was already there like that but just less visible before. |
| 08:25:58 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:26:32 | jhMikeS | hello |
| 08:26:43 | amiconn | Genre9mp3: YOu won't save any buffer by converting the BMPs to 4 bit, as they are converted to native bitmaps on load |
| 08:26:51 | amiconn | But you will save some space on disk |
| 08:27:01 | Genre9mp3 | amiconn: ah... |
| 08:27:06 | amiconn | Hmm, not even there, but in the .zip |
| 08:27:16 | Genre9mp3 | and some load time? |
| 08:27:36 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Dithering isn't always enabled, but with the flag you introduced |
| 08:27:49 | amiconn | It's used for backdrops (main and wps) |
| 08:28:29 | jhMikeS | I understand, that's really what I meant |
| 08:32:48 | amiconn | Btw, all BMPs are now dithered on request on greyscale and colour targets, with one single exception: 15 and 16 bit BMPs on a 16 bit target |
| 08:33:31 | amiconn | Hmm, and no dithering is applied when requested to be loaded as monochrome bitmap |
| 08:35:32 | amiconn | The reason is that both 24 and 32 bit BMPs and <= 8 bit BMPs have a colour resolution of 8 bits per colour channel |
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| 08:38:09 | jhMikeS | hmmm...voice is hanging after doing lengthy recordings on h120. :/ |
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| 08:54:57 | rasher | Bagder: What do you think about automatically generated voicefiles? Of course, it'll require lame.. I don't know if that's acceptable. |
| 08:58:28 | LinusN | would be a good thing |
| 08:58:35 | LinusN | i'm for it |
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| 09:00:57 | rasher | Of course, the files are not the greatest quality |
| 09:01:00 | t0dk0n | lame is lame :) |
| 09:01:11 | rasher | But having something automatically generated would be nice |
| 09:01:55 | rasher | And it should pretty much be a question of installing lame, a TTS engine and creating a script to build them |
| 09:03:01 | t0dk0n | and that is what ipod linux is fore |
| 09:03:06 | t0dk0n | muahahaha |
| 09:03:15 | scorche | uh...not really... |
| 09:03:20 | t0dk0n | I'm sure you can auto generate without Lame |
| 09:03:21 | rasher | What on earth are you talking about |
| 09:03:31 | rasher | Do you even know yourself? |
| 09:03:49 | t0dk0n | know what, exactly? |
| 09:03:59 | rasher | What you're talking about. You're making no sense at all. |
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| 09:04:21 | t0dk0n | eh, nevermind me then |
| 09:04:38 | t0dk0n | are you talking about lame, the mp3 encoder for *nix? |
| 09:04:55 | t0dk0n | because thats where I might have got confused/lost |
| 09:05:25 | rasher | I am. |
| 09:05:26 | LinusN | i lost you when you mentioned ipod linux |
| 09:05:58 | t0dk0n | ah, to port lame, I was just mentioned that thats what ipod linux is for |
| 09:06:04 | t0dk0n | mentioning* |
| 09:06:21 | LinusN | we're not trying to run lame on the player |
| 09:06:39 | LinusN | we use it to encode the voice files on the server |
| 09:06:54 | t0dk0n | doh *facepalms* |
| 09:07:21 | t0dk0n | sorry for the confusion :) |
| 09:07:46 | LinusN | :-) |
| 09:09:36 | t0dk0n | I was thinking of something like using lame as a carnival type function (that text to voice program) to do the voice menus |
| 09:09:55 | t0dk0n | which is why I had said 'I'm sure there's other ways without using lame' or whatever |
| 09:11:48 | LinusN | is might be possible to use eSpeak for that, but it might be too cpu intensive |
| 09:12:00 | t0dk0n | hehe yeah |
| 09:12:24 | t0dk0n | but perhaps more practical, it could name the song title/artist |
| 09:12:28 | t0dk0n | if you were blind |
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| 09:16:57 | ton | hello |
| 09:17:00 | ton | anyone here |
| 09:18:06 | ton | is anyone workinging on porting creative zen visoin m |
| 09:18:50 | t0dk0n | you can port it :) |
| 09:19:29 | dan_a | Nobody who has one has started work on it... why not try doing it yourself? |
| 09:19:40 | * | t0dk0n nods |
| 09:20:45 | ton | well tell me how and i will try |
| 09:21:30 | ton | ? |
| 09:21:34 | t0dk0n | learn c, look at the source code of rockbox from CVS, figure out how to get rockbox to boot on it, implement zen's features to it with that nifty code you just learned :) |
| 09:21:58 | dan_a | ton: That's the spirit! http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort tells you a lot of the details. |
| 09:22:10 | t0dk0n | aww, or that |
| 09:22:25 | markun | ton: there are some people how want to port rockbox to one of the DM320 targets (like the vision:m) |
| 09:22:35 | markun | talk to daurnimator |
| 09:26:14 | rasher | t0dk0n: we can already speak the filenames |
| 09:26:32 | t0dk0n | oh, hadn't known that |
| 09:26:38 | rasher | Pre-created of course, same deal |
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| 09:32:12 | Kasperle | hi. |
| 09:35:56 | daurnimator | talk to me? |
| 09:37:40 | markun | daurnimator: because you have been in touch with other DM320 porters, right? |
| 09:37:48 | daurnimator | minor |
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| 09:37:56 | daurnimator | i'm not good to ask pecific questions of |
| 09:38:40 | Kasperle | i made a little patch for rockboxdev.sh, which makes it easier to use it on BSD systems, you can find it here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6340 |
| 09:39:45 | | Part t0dk0n |
| 09:40:29 | rasher | Kasperle: Wouldn't it make sense to add a test for "gmake", and if that exists, use that. If not, assume that make is gnu make (still, overrideable) |
| 09:41:04 | rasher | if [ `which gmake` ]; then make="gmake"; else make="make"; fi |
| 09:41:06 | rasher | basically |
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| 09:42:16 | Kasperle | good idea. but i don't think that syntax would work on non-bash /bin/sh |
| 09:42:19 | jhMikeS | I'm looking for a decent way of declaring symbols that need to be shared between files within a particular system (like between pcm_playback and pcm-coldfire) but shouldn't be used in general and mustn't be declared publicly. Using access functions is not an option but maintaining them invidually amongst all files that contain them can cause inconsistencies. I don't really want to add another header file and was thinking about just using a sp |
| 09:42:23 | rasher | Kasperle: Why not? |
| 09:43:00 | Kasperle | rasher: never mind. it does seem to work |
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| 09:43:17 | Kasperle | i was confused by my own shell not being /bin/sh ;) |
| 09:43:17 | rasher | oh wait.. it should probably be "`which gmake`" != "" |
| 09:45:28 | rasher | or just -n "`which gmake`" |
| 09:45:41 | Kasperle | yeah. I think I'd prefer [ -n |
| 09:46:00 | rasher | I just always forget what the various switches to [ are |
| 09:49:21 | Kasperle | ok, uploaded another version of the patch |
| 09:49:47 | rasher | I'll have a look |
| 09:51:04 | rasher | diff -u is prefered, but not important here of course |
| 09:51:05 | jhMikeS | LinusN, amiconn and anyone?? Any way you'd prefer to see that done? |
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| 10:02:16 | rasher | Kasperle: looks sane, I'll commit and take the beatings |
| 10:02:28 | Kasperle | :D alright, thanks |
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| 10:32:00 | Kasperle | btw: is it possible for me to close my own tasks on the flyspray? |
| 10:32:31 | rasher | Nope |
| 10:33:12 | Kasperle | good. that means I wasn't too dumb to figure it out ;) |
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| 10:44:12 | preglow | *yawn* |
| 10:44:22 | petur | moin ;) |
| 10:44:40 | jhMikeS | hello |
| 10:45:21 | preglow | why, hello |
| 10:45:46 | preglow | jhMikeS: got flangering going, if you didn't notice |
| 10:45:49 | preglow | things seem to work fine |
| 10:46:02 | preglow | sometimes i get some clicking, though |
| 10:47:13 | jhMikeS | I saw. Should check this out re: buffering: http://pastebin.ca/254814 |
| 10:47:35 | jhMikeS | I don't get any click problems with it. |
| 10:48:10 | preglow | ringmod? :> |
| 10:48:16 | jhMikeS | yeah |
| 10:49:41 | preglow | i'll check it out a bit later |
| 10:49:47 | bluebrother | moin moin ;-) |
| 10:50:54 | jba | anyone know why the vmware dev image is such an old linux distro? |
| 10:51:26 | rasher | Isn't it simply debian stable? |
| 10:52:02 | rasher | It wasn't intended, at first to include the kitchensink |
| 10:52:25 | rasher | So it didn't matter much what was used |
| 10:53:06 | jhMikeS | preglow: real cheapo but serves as a good example I think |
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| 11:04:30 | preglow | jba: it compiles rockbox just great and doesn't need to be updated every ten minutes |
| 11:04:55 | preglow | jhMikeS: certainly looks good |
| 11:04:58 | jba | preglow, yeah that's true, but i'm having a hard time moving folders around and stuff |
| 11:05:23 | rasher | That doens't sound like an "out of date" problem |
| 11:05:29 | rasher | What is your problem? |
| 11:05:43 | jba | for now just trying to get a decnet filer |
| 11:05:51 | jba | the version of filer in that deb repository is crap |
| 11:06:10 | preglow | jhMikeS: you ever had it skip due to multitasking? |
| 11:06:15 | jba | i have to go all over the place trying to figure out how to launch a damn file browser |
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| 11:07:00 | rasher | So upgrade the system |
| 11:07:29 | rasher | replace "sarge" with "etch" in /etc/apt/sources.list run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:07:44 | rasher | and wait for a while |
| 11:08:17 | jba | and then risk ruing the gcc env which is the whole reason i'm using this vmware image and not my ubuntu image |
| 11:08:56 | rasher | The gcc environment is entirely separate |
| 11:09:09 | rasher | And you can set it up in the ubuntu image as well |
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| 11:09:34 | jba | i did ask that earlier, is the gcc env (for arm elf) all apt-getable? or must some of it be built from source> |
| 11:09:56 | rasher | The latter |
| 11:10:21 | rasher | It's not really something that should be handled by your package manager |
| 11:10:25 | Kasperle | jba: check out tools/rockboxdev.sh in the rockbox distribution |
| 11:10:36 | preglow | must be built from source, which is deliberately done so so we don't need to have a maintainer person making packages all the time |
| 11:10:52 | rasher | Since we require specific version of the tools |
| 11:11:14 | rasher | But yeah, run rockboxdev.sh and everything Just Works |
| 11:11:46 | jhMikeS | preglow: no, it's never skipped even once |
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| 11:13:53 | preglow | jhMikeS: i did get some weird skipping that got worse with time once |
| 11:14:00 | leftright | preglow, I want to edit the wiki with regards to gapless and LAME, are the following statements true, 1) Only targets with HW decoders require the LAME -no gap switch irrespective of LAME version ?. 2) On targets with software decoders, with LAME v3.90.3 and above Rockbox has no problem decoding gapless? |
| 11:14:27 | jhMikeS | then you're probably falling behind the data rate |
| 11:14:44 | preglow | leftright: everything apart from the version number of lame i can verify as true, and that's only because i don't know |
| 11:14:59 | preglow | but a certain version did start adding the info tags we need |
| 11:15:52 | jhMikeS | Were you doing effects during the IRQ? |
| 11:16:11 | leftright | V3.90.3 was the reccomended version of LAME until recently, it has been superceeded by .97, so i assume that from 3.90.3 and above would be gapless with rockbox |
| 11:16:14 | jhMikeS | Or in the callbacks rather? |
| 11:16:18 | preglow | jhMikeS: nono |
| 11:16:23 | preglow | jhMikeS: did it pretty much like you do |
| 11:16:53 | preglow | leftright: probably, only thing i know is that lame has been doing it right for a couple of years already now |
| 11:16:57 | preglow | leftright: maybe more |
| 11:17:24 | leftright | hmm, I wonder where i can get the version info |
| 11:17:40 | preglow | leftright: i tried searching for it the other day when updating the wiki, couldn't find anything :/ |
| 11:17:40 | leftright | relative to rockbox gapless |
| 11:18:47 | leftright | but, guessing now, seeing as 3.90.3 has been the reccomended version for years it would be safe to say from 3.90.3 |
| 11:18:53 | preglow | probably |
| 11:19:02 | preglow | unless something more specific shows up |
| 11:19:56 | leftright | ok, I'll enter it as from 3.90.3 onwards |
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| 11:20:14 | leftright | hello Maeka |
| 11:20:31 | leftright | :-) |
| 11:21:56 | jhMikeS | preglow: odd, can't see any reason for skipping unless the effect can't keep up or the pointers are off somehow. :/ |
| 11:22:42 | preglow | this routine could benefit heavily from some asm, but i don't think it's that slow |
| 11:25:51 | leftright | the Archos Studio/Jukebox players are hardware decoders right ?, are there any "modern" players which use HW decoders ? |
| 11:27:26 | preglow | all archoses are |
| 11:27:31 | preglow | nope, only the archoses |
| 11:27:35 | jhMikeS | need to make sure there's a couple blockd behind where you're writing so playback doesn't transfer before you're done, that the other factor I can think of. |
| 11:27:41 | leftright | ta |
| 11:27:55 | preglow | don't want too many blocks either |
| 11:27:59 | preglow | latency needs to be low |
| 11:28:37 | preglow | i just used one and figured that should be ample for this tiny effect |
| 11:28:38 | jhMikeS | true, just enough and the right size |
| 11:29:27 | preglow | four is a wee bit much, 4*512 is 50 msec latency |
| 11:29:29 | jhMikeS | then it could start its next transfer on the one your're working on |
| 11:29:30 | preglow | more than noticable |
| 11:30:20 | jhMikeS | I didn't fine tune it that much, just cut it down a lot from the delay thing. |
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| 11:32:36 | jhMikeS | I could try dropping the samples/chunk to fairly low like 128 |
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| 11:34:47 | vx | hi all$ |
| 11:35:33 | preglow | i'll try it out myself later on |
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| 11:36:00 | preglow | ooh |
| 11:36:10 | * | preglow sees his first ever possibility to use emac with a masked parallel fetch |
| 11:36:18 | jhMikeS | yeah, 128 works too |
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| 11:36:51 | preglow | that is, i only need the masked fetch... |
| 11:38:04 | jhMikeS | I'm _still_ most unfamilar with the emac stuff...haven't had a chance to get into it :( |
| 11:38:35 | preglow | well, there's not much point to use it unless you're coding dsp |
| 11:39:12 | preglow | ah, you're writing to a different buffer than you're reading from |
| 11:39:25 | jhMikeS | something I need to teach myself since it's interesting |
| 11:40:08 | leftright | SoapIsOutOfTown: you around / |
| 11:40:10 | jhMikeS | Not needed in this case. Could have done it in place really as long as playback is clear of where I'm working |
| 11:40:26 | preglow | that would be better |
| 11:40:45 | preglow | for optimising, that is |
| 11:41:03 | jhMikeS | More of an illustration. Some effects might need one way, some another I suppose. |
| 11:41:10 | preglow | oh? |
| 11:41:20 | jhMikeS | Or not? |
| 11:41:34 | preglow | *shrug* |
| 11:41:37 | preglow | can't see why |
| 11:43:02 | jhMikeS | then I guess not but if it's ever called for then either way should be ok |
| 11:43:31 | preglow | sure |
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| 11:43:58 | preglow | just thinking that one pointer to keep in a register beats having two pointers to keep in registers |
| 11:44:36 | jhMikeS | sure. I'm gonna change it real quick to in-place. Can get rid of one chunk from the delay then. |
| 11:44:46 | jba | found it |
| 11:53:40 | jhMikeS | it's working pretty sweet in place. even my typing clicks sound pretty synced. |
| 11:57:08 | jhMikeS | could be the use of a higher priority thread for the DSP part |
| 11:58:22 | * | wehn admires the new usb connected icon :) |
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| 12:10:01 | preglow | well, if so, it doesn't matter, it should be high priority |
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| 12:13:11 | markun | but this is not to correct one. GP?DAT should be GP?CON |
| 12:13:18 | markun | and the loop is useless in that case |
| 12:13:34 | markun | oops, wrong window :) |
| 12:17:26 | jhMikeS | hmmm...I get some periodic clicking on an x5. increasing the chunk size stops it. could be the color lcd updating so much. |
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| 12:19:07 | preglow | weird |
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| 12:20:01 | jhMikeS | will try yielding less on the effects thread and more on the UI. guess low latency means timing sensitive :) |
| 12:21:07 | jhMikeS | definitely timing |
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| 12:28:53 | preglow | not surprising |
| 12:28:57 | jhMikeS | latencies will have to be adjustable in a real plugin. x5 needs output 3 ahead. a screen update takes a little more than 15ms. |
| 12:32:09 | jhMikeS | 3 chunks of 128 samples is about half the lcd_update time but works |
| 12:41:37 | preglow | 15ms, ouch! |
| 12:41:50 | preglow | and that's a fairly lowres screen |
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| 12:43:32 | jhMikeS | Wait, that's unboosted :P |
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| 12:44:24 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: hey, thanks for the patch.. is it smaller because its missing the new files? |
| 12:46:02 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it is? crap? |
| 12:46:17 | JdGordon | i dunno. i just noticed its a faur fw kb smaller |
| 12:46:27 | jhMikeS | hmmm... |
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| 12:48:02 | jhMikeS | boosted update is about 6.8ms on x5 and two chunks is 5.8ms so that of course wouldn't work |
| 12:49:35 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: you're right it's missing file...bah! |
| 12:49:43 | JdGordon | doesnt matter |
| 12:49:56 | jhMikeS | how, not? updates were in the new files |
| 12:50:08 | JdGordon | oh, well then it does :p |
| 12:50:33 | JdGordon | have you still got them? |
| 12:50:38 | jhMikeS | Boy I hope so |
| 12:51:28 | jhMikeS | yeah, still there |
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| 12:53:30 | daurnimator | JdGordon: you |
| 12:53:33 | daurnimator | *yo |
| 12:53:37 | JdGordon | hey |
| 12:54:00 | daurnimator | sup |
| 12:54:07 | JdGordon | nm u? |
| 12:54:24 | daurnimator | nm |
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| 12:58:10 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it's settings_list.(h|c) and the menus subdirectory? anything else? |
| 12:58:21 | JdGordon | nope |
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| 13:08:50 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: fixed it |
| 13:08:59 | JdGordon | ta |
| 13:16:37 | * | leftright hugs his 100gig recorder |
| 13:16:56 | leftright | flashed and everything |
| 13:17:57 | * | leftright also hugs his h140, jealousy is a bad ting |
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| 13:19:45 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: It was saving global_settings.in_recscreen and the status bar was displaying recording icons outside the screen after a restart. I removed that variable from the settings since it's not really a setting and added a function to query that like there is for radio. I just hope it didn't mean there was some more serious bug though. |
| 13:20:38 | JdGordon | ok, I had noticed that and assumed it was because the recording settings were all wrong.. if thats fixed then great :) |
| 13:20:58 | jhMikeS | sure is :) |
| 13:21:41 | JdGordon | oh, sorry for runnig off yesterday after i asked about the electronic circuit. |
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| 13:22:38 | JdGordon | _somewhere_ i have a prorammable chip and progrmmer that i could use, I like the idea of going over the top for it.. but ive just been pointed to a ciruict which looks perfect (and will cost about $2 to make) |
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| 13:31:45 | jhMikeS | some of the controllers can drive a LED directly with just a resistor. need to check the datasheet if any outputs have enough current cap. |
| 13:32:28 | JdGordon | http://www.imagineeringezine.com/PDF-FILES/4013oneshots.PDF is what i was pointed to, gonna put it tgether tomorow |
| 13:34:55 | markun | LinusN: I can't delete or update files in the wiki. Are you able to fix that? |
| 13:35:19 | LinusN | wikiname? |
| 13:35:46 | LinusN | are you talking about attachments? |
| 13:35:47 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: oneshot? thought you needed a toggle. |
| 13:35:52 | obo | JdGordon: this still for you keyboard? What happens when the OS overrides the state of the lock buttons? won't they get out of sync? |
| 13:35:52 | markun | LinusN: yes, attachment |
| 13:36:12 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: oh? the guy said the 2nd one is what i wanted. |
| 13:36:17 | LinusN | which wiki page? |
| 13:36:21 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo |
| 13:36:26 | JdGordon | obo: yeah, ill add an extra switch under the keyboard to get it back in sync |
| 13:36:36 | JdGordon | lots of empty room under it to fiddle |
| 13:36:56 | markun | But there are also files on GigabeatInfo that I want to update/delete |
| 13:36:57 | jhMikeS | right, missed the part about toggle |
| 13:37:27 | jhMikeS | that's the flip-flop thing |
| 13:37:31 | markun | LinusN: "Access check on Main.GigabeatSInfo failed. Action "rename": access not allowed on web." |
| 13:38:47 | LinusN | odd |
| 13:39:37 | jhMikeS | LinusN: didn't see my q about preferrable way to declare shared but essentially private data (like what's needed for both pcm_playback and pcm-coldfire.c)? |
| 13:39:53 | LinusN | i saw it, but i didn't see the problem |
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| 13:40:04 | LinusN | and i just came back |
| 13:41:11 | jhMikeS | It's just if you just add extern vars/functions in each source and change them, then every souce needs an update too and the declarations aren't checked against the definitions. With the pcm stuff it could be a lot of files involved. |
| 13:42:06 | LinusN | markun: did you try to rename an attachment? |
| 13:42:30 | LinusN | jhMikeS: that's what header files are for |
| 13:43:43 | jhMikeS | yes, but it's not like I want it in the general purpose pcm_playback.h and pcm_record.h. They're not to be used elsewhere. As long as you don't mind a header only for that. |
| 13:44:07 | LinusN | i don't see the problem |
| 13:44:21 | LinusN | why not have it in those -h files? |
| 13:46:04 | jhMikeS | to not encourage their use in general. I don't want to see code popping everywhere in rb looking at or modifying the data directly when it shouldn't. |
| 13:46:14 | markun | LinusN: yes, rename or delete |
| 13:47:14 | jhMikeS | suppose I could just leave a comment there |
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| 13:49:50 | LinusN | jhMikeS: yes, it's not like we are protecting us from someone |
| 13:49:55 | jhMikeS | before splitting the stuff for the target tree it was all static |
| 13:52:14 | * | jhMikeS is a total tightwad about putting things in headers for the world :) |
| 13:53:07 | petur | eager to use C++? ;) |
| 13:53:23 | * | Bagder shivers |
| 13:53:24 | jhMikeS | that would help |
| 13:53:26 | jhMikeS | :P |
| 13:53:27 | petur | hahaha |
| 13:56:11 | jhMikeS | wouldn't mind it from a merely a programming standpoint actually |
| 13:56:26 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: just put a comment in the header along the lines of "anyone using this header without explicit permissio will die a horrible gruesome death at the hands of jhMikeS... You have been warned" |
| 13:57:34 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: indeed :) |
| 13:59:20 | daurnimator | drm it |
| 13:59:37 | daurnimator | IncludeForSure ;) |
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| 14:09:12 | jhMikeS | but the temptation to just pick at the data or use an internal function instead of extending the public interface can be hard to resist...so can the urge to be authoritarian :) |
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| 14:14:13 | LinusN | "public interface"...bah |
| 14:14:50 | LinusN | the entire rockbox code is public |
| 14:15:25 | LinusN | no need for FBI programming here |
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| 14:19:22 | vx | Thanks to dan_a, i was able to test latest firmware for sansa |
| 14:19:37 | vx | are there tests that would need to be done ? |
| 14:19:45 | vx | at my level |
| 14:20:39 | vx | id like to help but dont know how to do |
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| 14:22:25 | Bagder | testing, fixing keymapping, working on the manul, answering questions |
| 14:22:34 | Bagder | are typical things non-coders can do |
| 14:22:53 | vx | thanks |
| 14:24:40 | jhMikeS | LinusN: I just like keeping things modular and readily updatable in general to minimize unexpected side effects. having the interface to something well defined seems to make tracking any problems much easier too. |
| 14:25:32 | jhMikeS | the way memory was handled is a good example |
| 14:25:57 | LinusN | i agree about that - i just meant that there is no need to invent interfaces and hide data structures if there is no actual benefit |
| 14:26:29 | LinusN | and especially not if it is anti-KISS |
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| 14:28:44 | jhMikeS | well, I'm not even sure all requests for a block of memory are properly handled yet (more are now) and will investigate it. buffer_alloc use being a possible source of difficulty |
| 14:29:03 | vx | where is located the keymap ? id like to try to fix a wrong one on my model |
| 14:29:40 | LinusN | vx: apps/keymaps/ |
| 14:30:02 | vx | thx |
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| 14:31:16 | vx | LinusN: ah, generated before make. looks like i cant change it on the .rockbox directly |
| 14:31:19 | jhMikeS | recording operated before just out of dumb luck somehow. voice was trashed from IRAM plugins and recording since there was not notification. all habits were a holdover from HWCODEC. |
| 14:31:43 | LinusN | vx: correct |
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| 14:31:59 | LinusN | jhMikeS: not very surprising |
| 14:34:30 | vx | LinusN: so it will wait tonight :/ |
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| 14:41:53 | jhMikeS | the battery patch had some things that shouldn't have been allowed to compile without warning at least...not with the effort at moving to the target tree :\ |
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| 14:50:58 | tuxianer | hi |
| 14:51:11 | tuxianer | i have a iriver h120 |
| 14:51:29 | markun | hey, me too! |
| 14:52:01 | tuxianer | my music is in root/Musik/Band/Album....and with an earlyer version of rockbox i pres plylist/insert shuffeld |
| 14:52:12 | tuxianer | but with the new version it doesnt work... |
| 14:52:16 | daurnimator | whats david bryant's nick? |
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| 14:52:25 | LinusN | tuxianer: define "doesn't work" |
| 14:53:13 | tuxianer | i go to the folder music and hold the button...then i go to playlist insert shuffeld...but no fild was insert... |
| 14:53:15 | markun | tuxianer: do you have "Recursively Insert Directories" on? |
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| 14:54:09 | tuxianer | where i can set this? |
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| 14:55:39 | tuxianer | hello? |
| 14:55:47 | markun | tuxianer: let me have a look |
| 14:56:07 | markun | playlist options |
| 14:56:23 | tuxianer | in rockbox? |
| 14:56:30 | LinusN | of course |
| 14:56:59 | theli_ua | linuxstb, ping |
| 14:57:11 | petur | tuxianer: next time write your settings to a cfg file before upgrading so that you can import all your settings again ;) |
| 14:57:14 | tuxianer | thanks now it works fine!!! |
| 14:57:46 | markun | petur: we should really move to a file based config.. |
| 14:57:59 | petur | yes |
| 14:58:06 | tuxianer | ciao |
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| 15:00:40 | * | jhMikeS can't wait to not have to reset settings anymore when switching builds |
| 15:00:49 | preglow | god, that will be nice |
| 15:00:56 | preglow | nice in the extreme |
| 15:01:31 | JdGordon | just gotta figure out how to deal with the non-volatile RAM settings and its good to go |
| 15:02:56 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: any idea about the slowness going away and then popping up again? turned out it wasn't my imagination since it spontaneously returned when working on it. |
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| 15:05:50 | JdGordon | well that was a great time to shutdown :p |
| 15:05:55 | JdGordon | saw the message just as everything was closing |
| 15:06:06 | jhMikeS | hehe |
| 15:06:18 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: no, i have actually experienced some slowness in he menus but figured it was voice loading |
| 15:06:38 | JdGordon | i dont expect to be doing much tomrowo s ill hopflly check it out then |
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| 15:12:42 | vx | its weird on my sansa, right button works sometimes but not until plugins or fonts dir |
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| 15:19:27 | jhMikeS | why does credits get build every time I build my own plugin? |
| 15:21:05 | LinusN | dependency issue, i guess |
| 15:22:31 | jhMikeS | can't figure how credits should depend on every little plugin I cook up :\ wierd |
| 15:23:05 | LinusN | what makes you think it depends on your plugin? |
| 15:23:57 | jhMikeS | In some way or with something that gets changed every time I change even one character of my source it gets built |
| 15:24:06 | * | preglow flanges |
| 15:24:12 | jhMikeS | woot! |
| 15:24:13 | LinusN | preglow: k000l! |
| 15:24:23 | * | jhMikeS ringmods |
| 15:24:57 | jhMikeS | preglow: ready for a pastebin? I want to check it out. |
| 15:25:08 | preglow | soonish |
| 15:25:21 | preglow | just gotta clean up some hacks |
| 15:26:05 | preglow | did you do something fancy as part of your inplace processing thing? |
| 15:26:10 | jhMikeS | no |
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| 15:27:08 | jhMikeS | You mean a fancy effect or some programming thing? |
| 15:27:19 | preglow | no, just if you did any big changes to the code |
| 15:27:28 | preglow | that was somehow important, heh |
| 15:28:01 | jhMikeS | no, just determined that the delay from the effect output to the playback must be greater than the lcd_update time :) |
| 15:30:42 | jhMikeS | wait, start pcm_play_data before starting the thread was important so that the thread pointer didn't get ahead of the record pointer |
| 15:31:04 | jhMikeS | or the recording rather |
| 15:31:14 | preglow | just pastebin what you've got :> |
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| 15:35:42 | jhMikeS | http://pastebin.ca/254956 |
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| 15:43:04 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Credits changes every time as it depends on the build time |
| 15:49:35 | preglow | hrm, something just broke |
| 15:50:07 | jhMikeS | uhoh :( |
| 15:50:40 | preglow | just get white noise, now |
| 15:52:34 | preglow | bah, think i've got it |
| 15:53:43 | preglow | also, i want malloc in the pluginlib, please! |
| 15:54:31 | preglow | uh, what |
| 15:54:38 | preglow | it sounds like i'm listening to the radio :> |
| 15:55:14 | jhMikeS | I changed it cause I got sick of talking into the mic to test some stuff |
| 15:55:39 | preglow | ahaha, right |
| 15:55:45 | preglow | i thought it was my delay making white noise |
| 15:55:46 | jhMikeS | I hope it's radio with effects though |
| 15:56:24 | preglow | might be, too hard to hear with the reception |
| 15:56:28 | preglow | i'll just switch it back |
| 15:56:48 | preglow | what do i need to change? everything that says _FMRADIO to _MIC ? |
| 15:57:07 | jhMikeS | yeah |
| 15:57:27 | jhMikeS | don't need the SRCF_FMRADIO_PLAYING either ;) |
| 15:57:36 | preglow | figured out |
| 15:58:05 | preglow | pcm_set_rec_source, rec_set_source |
| 15:58:06 | preglow | haha |
| 15:58:10 | preglow | enough to have me confused |
| 15:58:38 | preglow | yeah, effect's working now |
| 15:58:49 | preglow | just add a quick modulation source and pastebin it |
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| 15:59:13 | jhMikeS | The H120 can have a smaller delay (one less chunk) |
| 15:59:26 | ScHlAuChi | hello |
| 15:59:50 | preglow | jhMikeS: it's good as it is |
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| 16:00:21 | ScHlAuChi | just a short question about the iriver rockbox - is it possible to change the "start" buttons? |
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| 16:00:28 | jhMikeS | preglow: you want me to or you are going to? I'm just using the A441 |
| 16:00:46 | jhMikeS | or I just don't get what you meant :P |
| 16:00:57 | preglow | ? |
| 16:00:58 | preglow | haha |
| 16:01:00 | preglow | get what? |
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| 16:01:57 | jhMikeS | "<preglow> just add a quick modulation source and pastebin it" <−− asking me to? |
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| 16:02:01 | preglow | nono |
| 16:02:04 | jhMikeS | ok |
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| 16:02:27 | preglow | www.pvv.org/~thomj/rockbox/flanger.c |
| 16:02:30 | preglow | just a quick demo |
| 16:02:43 | preglow | just a pretty widely modulated delay |
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| 16:03:49 | preglow | a bit of feedback |
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| 16:05:01 | jhMikeS | compiling... |
| 16:06:19 | preglow | oh, and how do i stop rockbox from idle shutdowning? |
| 16:08:06 | preglow | and btw, i guess the easy way of configuring the plugins would be to let them use the recording screen settings, but i guess it'd be cumbersome to exit the plugin to switch from mic to line in |
| 16:08:11 | jhMikeS | haha...sweet |
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| 16:08:58 | My_Sic | Hi all |
| 16:09:18 | preglow | switch the top for loop line of delay_process to: |
| 16:09:19 | preglow | d->delay = (441 << 15) + par_lfo(&trilfo)/160; |
| 16:09:25 | jhMikeS | yeah, it's running without any click at all |
| 16:09:26 | preglow | and the feedback term from 6/10 to 8/10 |
| 16:09:32 | preglow | and you'll have a genuine flanger effect |
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| 16:12:08 | preglow | finally, after speaking about it for years, an audio effect |
| 16:13:04 | jhMikeS | yes, that's the sound :D |
| 16:13:33 | My_Sic | i have a problem with rockbox |
| 16:13:34 | ScHlAuChi | just a short question about the iriver rockbox - is it possible to change the rockbox "startup" buttons? |
| 16:13:44 | My_Sic | data abort with some mp3 tracks |
| 16:14:01 | My_Sic | and just this files |
| 16:14:09 | preglow | a lot of dsp is really practical in fixed point |
| 16:14:12 | preglow | like generating lfos |
| 16:14:33 | preglow | i think i'll start adding a menu to this thing |
| 16:15:01 | petur | ScHlAuChi: what iriver and what startup button? |
| 16:15:13 | My_Sic | always the same data abort at 000310DC |
| 16:15:38 | jhMikeS | how can I speed the lfo up a bit? |
| 16:15:40 | ScHlAuChi | iHP140 - basically when you press start it starts rockbox - when press satrt+record the original firmware - is there a way to reverse that? |
| 16:15:56 | petur | ScHlAuChi: no |
| 16:16:11 | ScHlAuChi | as i use the original firmware more due to SRS |
| 16:16:13 | preglow | jhMikeS: "struct lfo trilfo" line, 0xffffffff/44100*freqinhertz |
| 16:16:30 | petur | ScHlAuChi: unless you build you own bootloader, which is highly unrecommended |
| 16:16:36 | preglow | jhMikeS: you see i've divided it further to get 4 hz |
| 16:16:41 | preglow | ehh, 0.25hz |
| 16:16:43 | petur | SRS sucks, btw ;) |
| 16:16:48 | ScHlAuChi | i like it ;) |
| 16:16:52 | spug | what's SRS? |
| 16:16:59 | My_Sic | someone can help me ? |
| 16:17:02 | ScHlAuChi | or does RB have soemthign compareable? |
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| 16:17:06 | jhMikeS | yes, it's very slow |
| 16:17:11 | Bagder | ScHlAuChi: yes, eq |
| 16:17:12 | petur | some (distorting) audio effect |
| 16:17:29 | ScHlAuChi | Bagder: guess i never tested it thoroughly enough ;) |
| 16:17:40 | preglow | eq isn't really comparable |
| 16:17:40 | ScHlAuChi | however the killer feature forme to stay with rockbox isnt in yet |
| 16:17:44 | ScHlAuChi | MOD file support |
| 16:17:51 | preglow | ScHlAuChi: there is a patch for that |
| 16:17:52 | ScHlAuChi | i saw the flyspry version but couldnt get it to work |
| 16:17:55 | ScHlAuChi | yeah |
| 16:18:00 | preglow | it doesn't take everything |
| 16:18:40 | ScHlAuChi | i downloaded that version on flyspry - but didnt start for me - so i reverted back |
| 16:18:53 | ScHlAuChi | or is there a way to add mod support to the latest version via this "patch" ? |
| 16:18:55 | preglow | what do you mean it didn't start? |
| 16:19:05 | preglow | well, that is the only way to add mod support to rockbox... |
| 16:19:35 | ScHlAuChi | i dont remember it exactly but there was soem error message with that version and it did shut down |
| 16:19:43 | ScHlAuChi | some |
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| 16:21:13 | My_Sic | please help me |
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| 16:22:01 | Bagder | My_Sic: if it happens with the most recent CVS version, file a bug report and provide a problematic for a dev to investigate |
| 16:22:12 | Bagder | a problematic song |
| 16:23:40 | My_Sic | no it's not from the most recent cvs |
| 16:23:52 | My_Sic | it's an rockbox build by myself |
| 16:24:02 | My_Sic | but i have just adding some little patch |
| 16:24:10 | My_Sic | like use 64mb on my ipod ... |
| 16:24:26 | Bagder | My_Sic: if plain CVS works fine then your patch is the one to blame I'd say |
| 16:24:27 | My_Sic | no patch modify the sound file |
| 16:24:47 | My_Sic | i haven't try with the cvs version |
| 16:24:51 | My_Sic | i will |
| 16:25:00 | My_Sic | but it's very strange |
| 16:25:17 | My_Sic | the audio buffer, when i play a song increase normally |
| 16:25:39 | My_Sic | and at a moment, it's come back to a few value (like 5mb buffering) |
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| 16:25:54 | My_Sic | and some sec after i have a data abort |
| 16:26:01 | godzirra | If you're using firefox, and you had access to a page yesterday, but for some reason today that page isn't there, is there anyway you can find that page in your cache or something to look at it again? |
| 16:26:33 | Bagder | godzirra: quite possibly, just scan through your local cache |
| 16:26:43 | godzirra | Thats the problem... I can't seem to -find- a local cache |
| 16:27:32 | Bagder | in ls -l ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.qfz/Cache/ |
| 16:27:37 | Bagder | in my case |
| 16:27:39 | godzirra | where would the local cache be? This is on a windows box... |
| 16:27:56 | godzirra | I haev the mozilla/firefox/something.default/ directory |
| 16:27:59 | godzirra | but inside it there isn't a Cache |
| 16:28:33 | petur | godzirra: about:cache |
| 16:29:46 | jhMikeS | I like the lfo at 10HZ...boing |
| 16:29:55 | ScHlAuChi | preglow: guess my mistake was that i downloaded those expermiental firmwares |
| 16:29:59 | godzirra | Thanks |
| 16:30:33 | godzirra | hrm |
| 16:30:36 | godzirra | it only matched a binary file |
| 16:30:44 | preglow | jhMikeS: hehe |
| 16:30:58 | preglow | jhMikeS: but yeah, i think i'll just add a settings menu to it |
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| 16:32:58 | godzirra | If its an https site, it doesnt save it i nthe cache at all does it ? :/ |
| 16:33:10 | petur | most probably not |
| 16:33:27 | My_Sic | no (for more security) |
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| 16:33:45 | godzirra | Yeah, I figured. |
| 16:33:46 | godzirra | sigh. |
| 16:33:53 | godzirra | I just want to look at the exact page I had open yesterday :/ |
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| 16:34:54 | My_Sic | if it's an https you have to wait that the site works again |
| 16:35:04 | My_Sic | if not maybe google cache |
| 16:35:19 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Btw, the greylevels are too dark now on my H140 even with contrast = 27 |
| 16:35:29 | jhMikeS | x5 should be about the max latency to worry about |
| 16:36:11 | preglow | jhMikeS: should we worry about the screen updating anyway? i don't think we should keep the buffer position counters in ordinary plugins, heh |
| 16:36:12 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I'll think I'll to rethink that. on my H120 they're way too light. |
| 16:37:42 | PaulPosition | Hmm.. Menu->info->debug->io gives me nice readings of the buttons/scrollpads values for my H10.. Is there a way to log that? The ADC on the H10 is incredibly noisy and it makes the scrollpad jumpy like its not even possible. I would like to try and have a look at those values, document myself on filtering and *maybe* help a bit at last.. |
| 16:37:46 | godzirra | My_Sic: It is. :/ |
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| 16:37:56 | jhMikeS | preglow: not so much if you're not going to do any live update on the screen. I'd leave at least some gap though. And no, the buffer counters were for debugging purposes |
| 16:38:03 | My_Sic | sorry |
| 16:39:00 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I suppose user adjustability is needed there. |
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| 16:41:37 | ScHlAuChi | preglow: those flyspry patches - can they be applied on daily builds - or would i have to compile them in myself? |
| 16:42:28 | n1s | ScHlAuChi: You need to compile |
| 16:42:42 | ScHlAuChi | gah;) |
| 16:43:09 | ScHlAuChi | guess that isnt as easy to do right? |
| 16:43:38 | n1s | It's not very hard if you follow the instructions in the wiki |
| 16:43:44 | ScHlAuChi | ok |
| 16:43:48 | Gnelik | I hate Winsow$ |
| 16:44:00 | Gnelik | :) |
| 16:44:00 | Gnelik | Hi people! |
| 16:44:04 | Gnelik | Windows |
| 16:44:06 | n1s | 'lo |
| 16:44:42 | ScHlAuChi | hmm anyone here who would be able to compile it for me? ;) |
| 16:47:04 | jhMikeS | amiconn: the 120 and 140 actually have the same panel too (not just same chip)? if so, sounds like they vary quite a bit |
| 16:49:33 | amiconn | They vary, that's normal |
| 16:49:54 | amiconn | The h120 and h140 have _identical_ hardware apart from the harddisk and the case |
| 16:51:29 | n1s | Does anyone have any thoughts on splashing some kind of message when loading a theme or config file and wps/font/backdrop etc is not found instead of just silently failing? |
| 16:51:37 | jhMikeS | hmmm...doesn't sound like very tight tolerance on it. I'm just wondering what to do if it's settable. They levels work closely with contrast and there should be a scale visible when setting things. |
| 16:52:19 | n1s | silently failing to load the missing thing that is, not the config |
| 16:58:59 | Gnelik | Did anyone see Barry Wardell |
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| 17:00:43 | bluebrother | n1s: I once had such a thing when I was working on theme archives |
| 17:01:02 | n1s | stil have it? |
| 17:01:17 | bluebrother | at least for the fonts it would be nice so the users recognize they haven't installed the fonts pack ;-) |
| 17:01:45 | bluebrother | not sure ... but it shouldn't be hard if it's only splashing for fonts |
| 17:01:58 | n1s | yeah and backdrops when they try to load one that doesnt fit |
| 17:02:35 | bluebrother | but that would be worth a patch |
| 17:02:48 | bluebrother | unfortunately I'm pretty busy atm |
| 17:03:04 | bluebrother | maybe I get around looking into the code again at the weekend. |
| 17:03:23 | n1s | can you point me in the right direction (where are the settings applied?) |
| 17:04:11 | preglow | jhMikeS: i guess just one update will kill any latency that is too short, yes |
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| 17:04:30 | preglow | 15 msec latency isn't too bad, but still more than i'd like |
| 17:05:00 | bluebrother | settings_load_config in apps/settings.c |
| 17:05:15 | n1s | thanks, I'll have a look |
| 17:06:11 | bluebrother | if(font_load(value){...} |
| 17:06:36 | bluebrother | should be sufficient to add a else { gui_syncsplash(...); } |
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| 17:06:59 | jhMikeS | preglow: pretty much |
| 17:08:02 | webguest666 | is it my imagination or is the H120/140 series missing from the bleeding edge downloads ? |
| 17:08:53 | webguest666 | Studio is also mising |
| 17:08:59 | obo | and ipod 3gs |
| 17:09:16 | jhMikeS | preglow: you can probaly just pick a latency based on HAVE_LCD_COLOR or something. Add one more for that. |
| 17:09:56 | webguest666 | several archos players are missing |
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| 17:11:32 | obo | infact everything built by Slasheri's new bulid server is missing |
| 17:11:49 | webguest666 | Slasheriiiiiiii |
| 17:12:33 | webguest666 | :-) |
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| 17:13:50 | obo | No wonder it's so quick if it's not uploading anything |
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| 17:20:33 | Gnelik | Any ideas :/opt/arm/lib/gcc/arm-elf/4.0.2/../../../../arm-elf/bin/ld: cannot find -lmadcollect2: ld returned 1 exit status??? |
| 17:22:07 | bluebrother | libmad missing? |
| 17:22:40 | Gnelik | Yep |
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| 17:36:20 | preglow | how i hate, hate, hate coding menus |
| 17:42:56 | jhMikeS | i think the recording start should be right before the playback start since that biases towards lengthening the latency instead of shortening it when cutting things close. |
| 17:45:43 | jhMikeS | not too significant though unless logf is being used or something and the DMA stuff is logged |
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| 17:47:56 | spug | are the settings supposed to get overwritten/reset when i install a new daily= |
| 17:47:57 | spug | ? |
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| 17:52:42 | n1s | spug sometimes |
| 17:53:02 | spug | okay |
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| 17:58:20 | Slasheri | oh.. how is the upload system working? |
| 17:58:28 | Slasheri | does it use rsync or something like that? |
| 17:58:42 | spug | cvs? |
| 17:59:28 | Slasheri | nope, cvs is used only for downloading new files |
| 17:59:54 | obo | AFAIK it's scp |
| 18:00 |
| 18:00:22 | Slasheri | ok, and scp is called from client side? |
| 18:00:37 | obo | no, I think by the build server itself |
| 18:00:38 | Slasheri | rsync should be really used.. that would be a _way_ faster than scp |
| 18:00:43 | Slasheri | ah, weird |
| 18:01:49 | Slasheri | ok, if ssh port is opened from build server itself, then i need to allow that.. |
| 18:01:55 | Slasheri | i have a strict network border firewall |
| 18:02:11 | obo | as in - the master server sends out the jobs, then scps the results back afterwards |
| 18:02:52 | Slasheri | now ssh should be allowed |
| 18:03:18 | Bagder | why would rsync be faster than scp? |
| 18:03:24 | Bagder | the package is completely new |
| 18:03:43 | Slasheri | Bagder: couldn't the old package to be copied first on the master server side? |
| 18:03:52 | Slasheri | then uploading to that package using rsync is _very_ fast |
| 18:04:10 | Bagder | what old package? |
| 18:04:18 | Slasheri | the previous build |
| 18:04:31 | Slasheri | so something like that: |
| 18:04:43 | Bagder | it would make a very complicated script |
| 18:04:54 | Slasheri | master$ cp rockbox-full-n01.zip rockbox-full-n02.zip |
| 18:05:17 | Slasheri | client$ rsync -az rockbox-full-n02.zip master: |
| 18:05:23 | Slasheri | i don't think that is very complicated |
| 18:05:30 | Bagder | I beg to differ |
| 18:05:38 | Slasheri | hmm? |
| 18:05:41 | Bagder | the servers build very different build each times |
| 18:05:49 | Bagder | only the job to find the "old" build is tricky |
| 18:05:53 | obo | how well does rsync work with zip compressed files? wouldn't the contents change too much for rsync to be useful? |
| 18:06:01 | Bagder | and would depend on previous things in a way the current system doesn't |
| 18:06:13 | Slasheri | it doesn't matter which old one it's. It only matters that it's for the same architecture |
| 18:06:22 | Slasheri | rsync is quite smart at spotting the differences |
| 18:06:27 | Bagder | yes, but it would also have to exist on the server |
| 18:06:41 | Slasheri | on the master server? of course |
| 18:07:04 | Bagder | and that would be tricky |
| 18:07:16 | Slasheri | i have always used rsync at transferring rockbox-full.zip over network and usually there has been a lot of changes |
| 18:07:17 | Bagder | to figure out what build you have that is old and have that same old one on the server |
| 18:07:24 | Slasheri | and the transfer takes something like 2s at max |
| 18:08:11 | Slasheri | hmm, i don't see how that is tricky if the packages has been previosly uploaded to the server.. the package can be anything |
| 18:08:20 | Bagder | I'm not arguing that rsync is bad, I'm just saying that changing the script to do this is not what I intend to work on |
| 18:08:23 | Slasheri | rsync takes care at updating it with the right content |
| 18:08:48 | Bagder | sure, but different servers do different builds each time |
| 18:08:55 | Bagder | the server would need to backtrack what the server did the last time |
| 18:09:00 | Bagder | and be sure to keep that old version around |
| 18:09:21 | Slasheri | no |
| 18:09:25 | Slasheri | old version is not needed |
| 18:09:39 | Slasheri | rsync does not generate a diff from old files |
| 18:09:56 | Slasheri | it calculates checksums and determines at runtime what chunks to transfer |
| 18:09:59 | Slasheri | and how |
| 18:10:23 | Bagder | yes, but in order to not have to send the whole file, it sends changes to an existing one |
| 18:10:37 | Bagder | right? |
| 18:11:22 | obo | just the last build, doesn't need to be the last build done by that particular server? |
| 18:11:54 | Bagder | they do differ somewhat so it would have to be the same server |
| 18:12:29 | obo | different gcc versions etc? |
| 18:12:43 | Bagder | yeah, and the lame different version strings thing |
| 18:12:49 | Bagder | that sets the local time |
| 18:13:34 | preglow | the manual makefile sits _really_ badly with dash |
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| 18:14:46 | preglow | should echo "\n" result in a newline? |
| 18:15:06 | obo | should result in 2... unless you use echo -n ?? |
| 18:15:09 | preglow | bash doesn't think so, but dash and zsh does |
| 18:15:39 | preglow | /bin/echo doesn't either |
| 18:16:23 | leftright | damn but Helles is a verdamt goetes bier |
| 18:16:29 | preglow | leftright: which helles? |
| 18:16:50 | leftright | er Lagerbier Hell |
| 18:17:36 | leftright | Augustinerbrau Munich |
| 18:17:36 | preglow | several beers called that too |
| 18:17:41 | preglow | ahh, yes |
| 18:17:44 | preglow | that is a nice helles |
| 18:17:54 | leftright | verryy tasty |
| 18:18:19 | preglow | had it once, courtesy of the german neighbour i had |
| 18:18:43 | leftright | in comparison South African beers are atrocious |
| 18:20:01 | preglow | no one who knows how echo should behave here? :/ |
| 18:21:22 | crwll | i think only echo -e "\n" should result in a newline |
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| 18:21:51 | preglow | ok, so dash and zsh are buggy |
| 18:21:58 | preglow | how nice |
| 18:23:13 | Slasheri | Bagder: no, rsync never sends to complete file unless it's really necessary |
| 18:23:45 | Bagder | yes, but that requires that there's a common base to diff on |
| 18:23:51 | Slasheri | i am not exactly sure how rsync does the comparing, but the file on the server and client can be totally different |
| 18:23:53 | Bagder | diff/apply |
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| 18:24:15 | Bagder | ah |
| 18:24:21 | Slasheri | but rsync uses checksumming on both sides to replace necessary portions of the destination file so they became identicasl |
| 18:24:25 | Slasheri | -s |
| 18:24:49 | | Part n1s |
| 18:24:50 | Slasheri | rsync even shows the obtained speedup after transfer |
| 18:25:06 | Slasheri | usually that can be very high, something like 10x or 100x compared transferring the complete file |
| 18:26:04 | ToyKeeper | rsync doesn't always transfer in chunks like that... it often operates in whole-file mode. |
| 18:26:24 | foolsh | hi all im having trouble installing the cygwin packages from the http://download.rockbox.org/cygwin/ repositories follow these instructions http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment i get to the part after adding the "User URL" when i look for package Devel - * they are not there only the sdl package |
| 18:26:49 | ToyKeeper | It's quite often faster to transfer the entire file than to checksum pieces and send only what's different. |
| 18:27:43 | foolsh | never mind fixed have to uncheck hide admin packages |
| 18:30:06 | sedchiro | Hi All, I am having some trouble to compiling since the november 19th daily source. I am getting many error lines with the file rdf2binary.c like this one "rdf2binary.c:24:23 error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory". The files are there in /firmware/include/ So someone have an idea |
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| 18:33:28 | Bagder | sedchiro: that is a local tool so it should use yout native compiler's sys/types.h |
| 18:33:39 | Bagder | ie not the one in firmware/include |
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| 18:41:37 | sedchiro | thank you for the info Badger |
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| 18:44:33 | excitatory | is it normal for transfer rates to an ipod video to be at least 4 times faster than a nano? |
| 18:44:49 | excitatory | (via amarok, if that matters) |
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| 18:45:24 | sedchiro | Badger : But what I found very weird, it's that I didn't change nothing in my compiler setting, I just download a new daily source? |
| 18:45:37 | obo | excitatory: sounds about right if you're letting the nano reboot into disk mode when you connect it |
| 18:45:54 | obo | excitatory: if you boot it into the appleos the nano will transfer much faster |
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| 18:48:30 | excitatory | i was thinking perhaps because of the flash vs. harddrive issue.. |
| 18:49:14 | excitatory | obo: well, diskmode is quite slow, but even running the apple os, the video screams in comparison to transferring to my nano |
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| 18:50:52 | obo | excitatory: I don't know how much of a difference flash vs. hdd makes... |
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| 19:15:05 | lowlight | preglow: are the values for CPU_INT_STAT and CPU_HI_INT_STAT typos in export/pp5020.h? Seems so according to http://ipodlinux.org/PP5020 |
| 19:16:56 | peschmae | I've been trying to build the sansa target (Normal build, gcc 4.1.1) it stops with the sudoku plugin: |
| 19:17:29 | peschmae | OBJCOPY sudoku.rock |
| 19:17:29 | peschmae | arm-elf-objcopy: there are no sections to be copied! |
| 19:18:25 | peschmae | Now I've been trying to find the exact commands it's running but the build system seems quite complicated |
| 19:18:45 | peschmae | There is however no sudoku.rock |
| 19:19:49 | peschmae | so the point OBJCOPY is making is right |
| 19:22:26 | excitatory | i think everyone here would really appreciate this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2103572733595127047 |
| 19:22:34 | preglow | lowlight: i don't know what they are, but they work |
| 19:22:50 | preglow | lowlight: should probably be changed back, feel free to do it :) |
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| 19:23:12 | lowlight | peschmae: look in plugins/sudoku/SOURCES |
| 19:24:42 | peschmae | hmm, sansa, and what does that tell me? |
| 19:25:24 | lowlight | tells you it's not being build for sansa |
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| 19:26:14 | peschmae | Right, that's ok with me. No need for sudoku. But how do I make it ok for the build system as well? |
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| 19:27:46 | lowlight | preglow: like *I* know what values to use :) |
| 19:28:27 | preglow | lowlight: just do what the values below them do |
| 19:28:45 | preglow | it doesn't matter anyway, pp internal addresses are aliased all over the place |
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| 19:29:14 | dan_a | peschmae: That's strange - it works for me with a clean CVS checkout. Where and when did you get the Rockbox source? |
| 19:29:41 | peschmae | From cvs, quite a while ago, but updated this evening |
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| 19:34:38 | dan_a | peschmae: Have you tried doing a "make clean" and then running tools/configure again? |
| 19:35:28 | peschmae | yes, of course |
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| 19:38:18 | dan_a | It looks like maybe apps/plugins/SUBDIRS is the key to this - but I don't understand why things work for me and not for you! |
| 19:41:22 | peschmae | Yes, finished building now with a #ifndef around the sudouk in the SUBDIRS file |
| 19:45:53 | peschmae | Just checked with a fresh cvs checkout - is the same; nothing wrong with my updating. |
| 19:47:07 | spug | whoo boy, the battery's drained fast when i transfer files |
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| 19:54:16 | dan_a | peschmae: I'll get that fixed ASAP |
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| 20:12:14 | amiconn | LinusN: ping... |
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| 20:21:05 | lowlight | I need some arm assembly help |
| 20:24:54 | lowlight | someone help me decipher this http://pastebin.ca/255217 |
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| 20:28:11 | preglow | it loads a byte from 0x6000d13c, shifts it left 29 times, shifts it right 31 times, then jumps to the result |
| 20:28:15 | preglow | weird |
| 20:28:42 | preglow | ah, no, no |
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| 20:28:47 | preglow | it's the return value |
| 20:28:55 | preglow | it returns to whatever called it with that as the return value |
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| 20:29:07 | preglow | it just extracts a bit |
| 20:29:50 | PaulPosition | is that some weirdo way to round out a value? (not that it matters as I understand sh!t all about programming..) |
| 20:29:55 | PaulPosition | ..just curious. |
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| 20:30:03 | Larsie | hi |
| 20:30:19 | lowlight | ok. easier with a mask. |
| 20:30:26 | preglow | basically the same as (valueat0x6000d13c & 0x00000004) >> 2 |
| 20:30:27 | preglow | afaik |
| 20:30:38 | preglow | it's done that way on arm for efficiency reasons |
| 20:31:20 | amiconn | GIPO_L bit 2 |
| 20:34:01 | peschmae | dan_a, thanks btw; it displays some weird characters on my sansa's screen now. Seems I'll have to start looking at the code one of these days ;-) |
| 20:34:47 | lowlight | cool...GPIOL bit 2 = USB plugged in |
| 20:34:55 | dan_a | peschmae: No problem. What kind of weird characters? It should start up with a list of files on your drive. |
| 20:35:09 | lowlight | ^ for my Olympus MR-100 |
| 20:35:14 | n1s | How can I prevent a splash from splashing over another splash? |
| 20:36:11 | peschmae | dan_a, oh, hmm, no, that's no file list; i'll have to look again to see what characters |
| 20:36:46 | Larsie | any progress on the scroll wheel in the sansa? |
| 20:37:38 | dan_a | Larsie: Not yet (unless anybody else has been quietly working on it) |
| 20:37:48 | Larsie | couldn't it be that the that a bit on one of the GPIO's changes so quickly that you can't see it? maybe we need to keep a log of it for a short moment? |
| 20:38:17 | Larsie | -the |
| 20:38:35 | lex | why the 5.5G development is so freezed? :( |
| 20:38:36 | dan_a | It could be, or possibly it isn't connected to the GPIO. I don't think it will work the same way as the other buttons. |
| 20:38:42 | lex | i can't wait to get rockbox to my 5.5G |
| 20:38:48 | lex | with the apple os |
| 20:39:00 | peschmae | dan_a, it shows the GPIO (A-L) and ADC (1-4) |
| 20:39:02 | Larsie | I also read something about OPTO ports on the portal player website |
| 20:39:17 | Larsie | which can be used for more than 2 axis |
| 20:39:26 | peschmae | But then maybe I did not install something it needs. I have probably not yet read all the docs. |
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| 20:40:20 | dan_a | peschmae: You've built a bootloader build. It shows those to help us work out what they do. You'll see some of them change on their own, some of them change when you press buttons, and some of them change if you do other things |
| 20:40:21 | Larsie | but they are connected to GPIO aswell |
| 20:40:51 | amiconn | Larsie, dan_a: The opto ports are where the ipod scroll wheel is hooked up as well |
| 20:41:11 | Larsie | :) |
| 20:41:26 | amiconn | (except mini g1) |
| 20:41:30 | dan_a | Larsie: What somebody could do at some point is make a build where any bit that changes on the GPIOs gets highlighted. |
| 20:41:34 | peschmae | dan_a, yes, how I originally understood this; but then I did not get a mi4 file from the normal build |
| 20:41:40 | peschmae | so i figured I was wrong.. |
| 20:41:41 | Larsie | but I think the sansa scrollwheel is a lot simpler that the ipod one |
| 20:42:01 | Larsie | just a button right and left everytime it 'clicks' |
| 20:42:05 | Larsie | and=or |
| 20:42:26 | dan_a | peschmae: Do you have mi4tool in your path? I guess you must have to make the bootloader build |
| 20:43:41 | * | dan_a doesn't understand the build system yet |
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| 20:44:12 | n1s | amiconn: since you're the lcd man :-) how do I prevent a splash from being diplayed on top of another one? |
| 20:44:22 | amiconn | You can't |
| 20:44:50 | amiconn | ...other than in the calling code of course |
| 20:45:16 | n1s | bummer, was making the settings splash an error when trying to load a non existant font |
| 20:45:52 | n1s | but it get splashed under the "Settings Loaded" thing and that doesn't look very nice, any ideas? |
| 20:45:56 | Larsie | does ATA work in the bootloader build aswell? |
| 20:46:06 | Larsie | ehh |
| 20:46:06 | dan_a | Larsie: It should do |
| 20:46:11 | Larsie | ok |
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| 20:46:55 | Larsie | I'll try to make some kind of thing to make it log changes when I press a certain button for a second or so |
| 20:47:11 | peschmae | dan_a, not really afaict |
| 20:47:28 | peschmae | dan_a, btw it says on your hp that rockbox now uses scramble (which is in the tools dir) |
| 20:48:05 | Larsie | I mean, it starts when I press that certain button, well never mind, I could better start programming right now :) |
| 20:49:19 | peschmae | dan_a, oh, yes, that seems to be right for the bootloader but not for the rockbox build part |
| 20:49:54 | peschmae | Just didn't see the error message in the output. |
| 20:50:01 | lowlight | can't the sansa's use the debug > ports menu to see the gpio values? |
| 20:50:46 | Larsie | yes it does, but I think we can't see the change of the scroll wheel because it's too fast |
| 20:53:04 | lowlight | can you read the adc? that's apparently how the h10 scroll pad works. |
| 20:53:42 | pixelma | n1s: you are working on the manual, too, right? |
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| 20:54:02 | dan_a | lowlight: Not yet |
| 20:54:08 | n1s | pixelma: yep, a little bit at least ;-) |
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| 20:54:24 | pixelma | Since you are the only one around atm... today I noticed that there are threes different styles of referring to the direction keys in the button tables (i.e.: up /down : up, down : direction keys)... do you know what would be the preferred way? |
| 20:55:47 | n1s | yes I've seen that to (and I am probably to blame for some of them) but I don't know of a general preferred way but I like the up/down etc most |
| 20:55:58 | n1s | *too |
| 20:56:29 | lowlight | preglow: is LDR R2, =0x6000D034 ; SUB R2, #0x14 ; the same as LDR R2, =0x6000D020 ? |
| 20:57:19 | n1s | Was kind of waiting for the actions for plugins to get done before trying to tackle those buttonmaps for now... |
| 20:57:44 | pixelma | n1s: me, too with the addition that I like to have a space before and after the splash (there are both versions too) to distinguish between the "On/Off" button and different buttons |
| 20:57:55 | pixelma | slash of course |
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| 20:58:15 | n1s | yes the space is nicer |
| 20:58:35 | preglow | lowlight: well, yeah |
| 20:58:49 | preglow | lowlight: but why'd you wanna do that? |
| 20:59:11 | preglow | oh, right, disassembly |
| 20:59:41 | lowlight | I don't...just trying to understand the Olympus MR100 bootloader |
| 20:59:44 | amiconn | No, it's not |
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| 21:00:12 | pixelma | n1s: so I will first concentrate on correcting everything except plugins in the Ondio manual... and leave the rest to you ;) |
| 21:00:32 | amiconn | LDR R2, =0x6000D034 loads the contents from address 0x6000D034 |
| 21:01:04 | preglow | no, it loads the constant 0x6000d034 from some arbitrary memory address as an offset from pc |
| 21:01:14 | amiconn | Really? |
| 21:01:17 | preglow | where the compiler makes the offset |
| 21:01:26 | preglow | well, yeah, i'm almost sure |
| 21:01:39 | amiconn | Hmm, that's a confusing way to write it... |
| 21:01:42 | preglow | almost because i haven't done arm as in a little while |
| 21:01:54 | preglow | hmm, perhaps |
| 21:02:05 | amiconn | Hmm, now I think you're right |
| 21:02:14 | preglow | but yeah, afaik, = before a constant means "put this constant in the literal pool, then create a pc relative offset to it" |
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| 21:02:44 | lowlight | so LDRB R1, [R2] loads the value of R2 into R1, right? |
| 21:02:51 | amiconn | nope |
| 21:03:07 | preglow | it loads the byte at address r2 to r1 |
| 21:03:27 | preglow | mov r1, r2 would do what you said |
| 21:03:40 | amiconn | Not exactly... |
| 21:03:45 | amiconn | Bah |
| 21:03:48 | preglow | ? |
| 21:03:51 | * | amiconn can't think today |
| 21:03:54 | preglow | hehe |
| 21:03:56 | preglow | i know the feeling |
| 21:04:14 | preglow | i've just fixed two "bugs" caused by me being what seems like unconcious while coding |
| 21:04:25 | amiconn | arm is often plain confusing |
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| 21:04:32 | preglow | hm |
| 21:04:44 | preglow | i don't really think so |
| 21:04:44 | preglow | never had much trouble with it |
| 21:04:45 | preglow | but like i've said, my first asm language was x86 |
| 21:05:01 | amiconn | Mine was Z80 :) |
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| 21:05:43 | preglow | i actually never touched asm on my c64 |
| 21:05:52 | preglow | which really was my only programmable machine before the pc |
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| 21:09:30 | webguest07 | hmm, the h120/140 is issing from the bleeding edge builds, as well as some Archos targets |
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| 21:09:44 | webguest07 | issing=missing |
| 21:09:48 | lowlight | preglow: help me out here...http://pastebin.ca/255276 |
| 21:10:20 | lowlight | is that similar to GPIOD_OUTPUT_VAL |= 0x40; |
| 21:10:42 | lowlight | similar in concept anyway |
| 21:10:50 | webguest07 | Bagder LinusN Zagor, any ideas on the missing targets on the Bleedign edge downloads page |
| 21:11:51 | lowlight | i think Slasheri fixed his servers...probably just needs a commit to start another build. |
| 21:12:46 | webguest07 | thanks |
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| 21:14:11 | amiconn | lowlight: I'd say that it does GPIOA_OUTPUT_VAL |= 0x3F; |
| 21:14:24 | amiconn | The R4 load doesn't seem related |
| 21:15:24 | lowlight | amiconn: thanks, that's what I thought (R4 is used later) |
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| 21:25:25 | dan_a | Does anybody know if the H10 bootloader can boot the original firmware? |
| 21:25:38 | PaulPosition | dan - nope, not at this moment.. |
| 21:25:58 | dan_a | Darn - I was going to try stealing it for the Sansa! |
| 21:26:43 | PaulPosition | Barry didn't think it worthwhile to develop that.. I understand he'd rather find a way to allow recording and FM tuner than work on a workaround. :) |
| 21:26:56 | Lear | Interesting... Some code I just wrote apparantly makes the sim restart/reset in an interesting way. :) |
| 21:27:31 | dan_a | PaulPosition: How do H10 users get back to the original firmware, then? |
| 21:27:36 | lowlight | PaulPosition: you try pressing left at boot? |
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| 21:27:55 | PaulPosition | UMS/disk mode and rename the system file. |
| 21:28:29 | PaulPosition | Yeah, left press gets a rockbox error -1 warning.. |
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| 21:32:53 | shrimants | hello, is anyone here |
| 21:33:02 | Larsie | hi |
| 21:33:06 | Larsie | well I am :P |
| 21:33:13 | shrimants | do you know how to patch? |
| 21:33:24 | Larsie | patch < file |
| 21:33:33 | Larsie | or create a patch? |
| 21:33:34 | shrimants | whats < file mean |
| 21:33:44 | shrimants | like i type patch < |
| 21:33:50 | shrimants | and then the name of the patch or the name of the file? |
| 21:33:54 | Larsie | you type "patch <" and after that the filename |
| 21:34:05 | shrimants | ok |
| 21:34:21 | shrimants | and i need to be in the directory of the patch AND the file, right? they gotta be in the same place? |
| 21:34:28 | lowlight | PaulPosition: have you tried what the comment says in bootloader/h10.c before load_iriver() |
| 21:34:50 | Larsie | I always put the patches in the root of my source directory |
| 21:35:20 | Larsie | sometimes you need to do "patch -p1 < filename" if it can't find the files to patch |
| 21:35:32 | shrimants | ok lemme try this |
| 21:36:00 | PaulPosition | lowlight - Gonna have a look.. Up till now, the (rare) times I had to go back to OF I used to delete and rename the h10.m14 file from the rockbox UI.. :p |
| 21:36:15 | PaulPosition | But of course I can't get back to rb. |
| 21:38:50 | shrimants | do i need the rockbox source to patch? or do i need the latest daily build? |
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| 21:44:26 | shrimants | fuck it i give up |
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| 21:44:31 | shrimants | later |
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| 21:45:58 | dan_a | Gosh. That sort-of worked! |
| 21:46:35 | dan_a | I've just booted the decrypted Sansa OF using a modified h10 bootloader |
| 21:47:16 | PaulPosition | nice! (well, I guess :p ) |
| 21:48:07 | dan_a | The only problem is, the buttons don't work... and it's not been recognised as a USB device :( |
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| 21:53:05 | Deef | Hmm |
| 21:53:15 | antipasti | buildzip.pl: 11: =..: not found |
| 21:53:34 | Deef | How can I get the Playlist Catalog to refer to a directory other than /Playlists? |
| 21:53:39 | antipasti | can someone explain me more ? |
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| 21:56:30 | netmasta10bt | antipasti: did you run make tar or something or buildzip.pl directly ? |
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| 22:00:48 | n1s | yay it actually works :-) (without 3 splashes on top of each other) |
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| 22:11:33 | PaulPosition | lowlight - Thanks for the tip about bootloader/h10.c ... It doesn't work (craps out with a warning about missing system files) but it's much closer to completion than I ever thought it would. Wish I understood something, anything, about programming anything else than vb and php. :p |
| 22:12:54 | dan_a | PaulPosition: If you can do VB and PHP, you can do anything else |
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| 22:13:26 | PaulPosition | Well, I guess I meant 'if I understood anything that doesn't have a nice API'.. :p |
| 22:13:59 | PaulPosition | Though plugins are in the realm of the possible. |
| 22:14:31 | dan_a | I wish I knew why the checksum on my rockbox.e200 file was being calculated incorrectly :( |
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| 22:20:38 | low_light | amiconn, preglow: simple question for you...what's the difference "LDRB R1, [R2]" and "STRB R1, [R2]" |
| 22:22:15 | dan_a | The first loads r1 with the byte at the address in r2. The second stores the byte in R1 to the address in r2 |
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| 22:26:03 | dan_a | Woohoo! I just booted Rockbox using a Rockbox bootloader! |
| 22:26:16 | goffa | congrats |
| 22:26:41 | low_light | dan_a: I think I understand |
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| 22:26:55 | dan_a | goffa: That's the easy bit... booting the original firmware using the Rockbox bootloader is the challenge |
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| 22:27:24 | dan_a | low_light: The first reads memory into a register, the second writes a register into memory |
| 22:28:59 | low_light | ok. Seems like this bootloader does a lot of unnecessary loading & storing |
| 22:28:59 | goffa | ah |
| 22:30:21 | * | low_light check for a "Black Friday" sale on Sansa's |
| 22:31:58 | low_light | hmmm...e250 for $100 |
| 22:32:40 | dan_a | low_light: Normally there will be something done to R1 between the load and the store. |
| 22:33:09 | goffa | what kind of storage does the sansa have? |
| 22:33:16 | Bagder | nand flash |
| 22:33:47 | Bagder | (NAND being kind of obvious these days) |
| 22:36:03 | Seed | anyone with H320 here? |
| 22:39:16 | petur | h340 |
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| 22:41:00 | desbo | hey |
| 22:41:08 | SoulDeaD | hi |
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| 22:41:54 | desbo | i wonder if anyone could help me with a problem i'm having with my ipod 3g... just installed rockbox and it's working fine on the ipod, but connecting it to the pc (xp/usb) gives me device not recognised |
| 22:42:50 | dan_a | desbo: Rockbox can't use the USB yet - you'll have to use disk mode or the original firmware to copy files over. |
| 22:43:12 | desbo | right |
| 22:43:18 | desbo | how can i use disk mode? |
| 22:43:25 | low_light | later all |
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| 22:44:40 | habana | "Rockbox can't use the USB" is it general for all devices ? |
| 22:45:02 | Bagder | no |
| 22:45:26 | Bagder | it varies over the various targets |
| 22:46:20 | dan_a | desbo: Shutdown Rockbox by holding Play, then turn your iPod on while pressing the right combination of buttons. I can't remember which ones you have to press, but Google should help ;) |
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| 22:48:12 | PaulPosition | Anyone understand .mi4 files? I'm trying to understand this statement : "This function expects a file called "/System/Original.mi4" on the player. It should be decrypted and have the header stripped using mi4code." .. Now I could decrypt the h10.mi4 file but how about stripping header? The 'hexdecode -s' seems to be made for .bl files not mi4.. |
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| 22:49:33 | dan_a | PaulPosition: mi4code decrypt -s <infile> <outfile> |
| 22:49:35 | Bagder | mi4code decrypts |
| 22:50:26 | PaulPosition | Oh really? lemme try, I thought -s only applied to 'mi4code hexdec'... |
| 22:50:55 | desbo | oh yeah, thanks dan |
| 22:51:05 | dan_a | you're welcome |
| 22:51:53 | dan_a | Bagder: I'm getting somewhere with a real bootloader, only the original firmware goes all weird when I boot it. |
| 22:52:29 | Bagder | sounds like barry's experiences when trying that on the h10 ones... |
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| 22:53:42 | dan_a | It's not crashed, because the scroll wheel lights up if I turn it, and then the light goes out a bit later. |
| 22:53:47 | Osevents33 | Am I here? |
| 22:53:52 | preglow | Osevents33: apparently |
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| 22:54:04 | Osevents33 | Weeho" |
| 22:54:09 | preglow | Osevents33: though it depends on your philosophical view of things |
| 22:54:18 | Osevents33 | Then Im nowhere |
| 22:54:19 | petur | rofl |
| 22:54:22 | Osevents33 | no... |
| 22:54:37 | Osevents33 | w |
| 22:54:38 | Osevents33 | here |
| 22:54:42 | Osevents33 | Yes I am |
| 22:54:49 | preglow | let's just pretend you are |
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| 22:55:04 | habana | or jut drunk ;) |
| 22:55:04 | preglow | it simplifies communication with us who also might not be here |
| 22:55:09 | Osevents33 | Are you hving sum fun disc here? =) |
| 22:55:11 | SoulDeaD | Osevents33 you are there |
| 22:55:14 | SoulDeaD | i am here! |
| 22:55:15 | SoulDeaD | :) |
| 22:55:17 | Osevents33 | You got me!!! |
| 22:55:25 | Osevents33 | No, not drunk really... yet, ... |
| 22:55:27 | Osevents33 | I thinkg |
| 22:55:31 | Osevents33 | ggg |
| 22:55:45 | * | Bagder says nothing |
| 22:55:49 | Osevents33 | A 15 of age scotish |
| 22:55:49 | habana | think different lol |
| 22:55:51 | preglow | Bagder: you're not even here |
| 22:55:52 | SoulDeaD | Osevents33 when you drink you don?t think |
| 22:56:08 | Osevents33 | with a .... some beer b4 that.. |
| 22:56:11 | preglow | well, that went quickly |
| 22:56:13 | Osevents33 | Lituanian |
| 22:56:26 | Osevents33 | Li... how the h to spell that.. |
| 22:56:57 | SoulDeaD | ho ho ho :) |
| 22:57:06 | Osevents33 | Where are you from, amigos and amigas(?)? |
| 22:57:17 | SoulDeaD | we?re from everywhere |
| 22:57:25 | habana | paris france |
| 22:57:26 | Osevents33 | thats the spirit |
| 22:57:33 | Osevents33 | Paris! |
| 22:57:35 | petur | Osevents33: http://rasher.dk/rockbox/people/ |
| 22:57:38 | habana | no !paris |
| 22:57:44 | Osevents33 | Denmark! |
| 22:57:57 | habana | spam spam spam ! |
| 22:57:58 | SoulDeaD | sofia, bulgaria |
| 22:58:13 | Osevents33 | I also wanna spam! |
| 22:58:28 | habana | http://dormrf.free.fr/blog/index.php/2006/09/20/166-spam-spam-spam |
| 22:58:31 | PaulPosition | Is there a Hilton hotel in Paris? I'd feel yucky-yeach sleeping there... :o |
| 22:58:46 | Osevents33 | Go to my site: hpppT/???.yxxi.cåm/pornograffi |
| 22:58:51 | habana | lol, paris hilton is too slim |
| 22:58:52 | Osevents33 | Wiiiiiiih! |
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| 22:59:06 | Mode | "#rockbox +o Bagder " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 22:59:21 | habana | it the original viedo from monty python |
| 22:59:36 | habana | where spam word come from (would) |
| 22:59:38 | Osevents33 | Ah, yeah I remember |
| 22:59:40 | Osevents33 | =) |
| 22:59:44 | Osevents33 | :-) |
| 22:59:46 | Osevents33 | ;-) |
| 22:59:50 | Osevents33 | ;-P |
| 22:59:52 | Osevents33 | ;-p |
| 22:59:54 | Osevents33 | :-p |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:01 | Osevents33 | Why..... does it not |
| 23:00:14 | Osevents33 | Whischhhskyey |
| 23:00:15 | Bagder | stop it |
| 23:00:37 | Osevents33 | ok, sorry. Just wanted to test wich... you know |
| 23:01:00 | Bagder | this is #Rockbox, you're free to discuss anything related to Rockbox |
| 23:01:20 | Osevents33 | What is related to Rockbox? |
| 23:01:21 | habana | Bagder: sorry, did we make too much noise for your children ? sorry. i hope we didnt wake them |
| 23:02:01 | habana | rockbox.org ! |
| 23:02:08 | habana | are you lost here ? |
| 23:02:24 | Osevents33 | I know one thing to contribute... co... with... Im swedish |
| 23:02:37 | PaulPosition | Osevent - Actually, Monty Python's 'The Holy Grail' features the 'Neeeeee!' guys, not the wiiiii guys (that's nintendo). |
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| 23:03:15 | Osevents33 | Anyway, I have today seen the worst video ever. And of course I found it among swedish vids. |
| 23:04:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 23:04:33 | Osevents33 | The song is alright but the video is... do they have to make people think swedish people are retarded... |
| 23:04:52 | * | preglow arms bagder with +o |
| 23:05:01 | Kick | (#Rockbox Osevents33 :Bagder) by Bagder!n=daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder |
| 23:05:56 | PaulPosition | Well, well... As I thought, there's no way to boot into OF on the h10, though with a beheaded/unencrypted mi4 it (seems to) go pretty close to getting in. Yeah it's no use as I can't even begin to understand what happens but it makes me feel like an adventurer.. |
| 23:06:08 | PaulPosition | I guess I need to go outside and buy myself a clue... or a life. :p |
| 23:06:20 | Bagder | I hear life's are overrated |
| 23:06:25 | Bagder | lives even |
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| 23:06:51 | preglow | clues are cheaper |
| 23:06:52 | PaulPosition | lol |
| 23:06:57 | dan_a | Lives are for people who haven't got computers yet |
| 23:06:59 | obo | PaulPosition: do you have any problems accessing the debug menus on the H10s? |
| 23:07:44 | PaulPosition | Nope, but I use an old build... why? |
| 23:07:55 | dan_a | PaulPosition: What happens when you try to boot the OF? We need dual boot for Sansa, until we know how to work the USB |
| 23:08:23 | obo | I wrote a new debug menu to try and help someone solve an issue they had, and they said that any debug menu they entered locked up... |
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| 23:11:51 | PaulPosition | dan - Well, last I tried it went through rockbox splash and a 'loading iriver firmware' message then showed the iriver's splash screen and froze with the backlight on. |
| 23:12:40 | PaulPosition | Just tried again twice.. Once it hung during the rockbox boot. Second went like the first time, up to the iriver's screen. |
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| 23:13:00 | dan_a | If I boot without the USB plugged in, it seems to be working... until I plug the USB in |
| 23:13:01 | PaulPosition | So it's not something 'exact' or consistent. |
| 23:13:16 | PaulPosition | didn't try with usb... |
| 23:14:23 | PaulPosition | lol.. With usb connected it went to UMS/disk-mode as if I pressed right instead of left. :o |
| 23:15:10 | dan_a | Hah. I can do everything but play music or use the USB :( |
| 23:15:14 | dan_a | I wonder...... |
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| 23:15:42 | PaulPosition | With the OF ?? Jeez, that's almost a success! |
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| 23:17:11 | dan_a | I suspected it might be something to do with the coprocessor, but it doesn't look like it is. |
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| 23:18:17 | PaulPosition | obo - is that debug menu in cvs or is that a patch? I might try and test for you, that's about all I can do to help. |
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| 23:19:18 | obo | PaulPosition: they were reporting that it locked up even in a clean cvs build |
| 23:21:59 | PaulPosition | obo - downloading and installing to target.. I'll tell you how it goes. |
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| 23:26:29 | PaulPosition | obo - Well 'view io ports' works wonder... Do you by any chance remember the button combination to get back from there? |
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| 23:26:50 | obo | PaulPosition: I think it's left to back out of the debug screens |
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| 23:27:28 | obo | PaulPosition: thanks for testing |
| 23:27:48 | PaulPosition | obo -well that's just clean, latest cvs... |
| 23:28:18 | obo | yup, they reported both clean and patched had the same problem... so I've got no idea what was going wrong at their end :) |
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| 23:29:09 | PaulPosition | Well I can't find the combination to go back, but os stacks shows just fine and it hasn't frozen either.. |
| 23:29:44 | z0de | .me has a question |
| 23:29:47 | * | z0de has a question |
| 23:30:09 | PaulPosition | z0de - that's a nice statement... Now for the question? |
| 23:30:11 | PaulPosition | ;) |
| 23:30:20 | z0de | how do you make rockbox play music fastwarded instead of doing ministeps |
| 23:30:56 | z0de | ive found the option but if i click i go to the speed selection which i can change but it doesnt remember that i changed from ministeps |
| 23:31:04 | z0de | i have an x5l btw |
| 23:32:36 | midkay_ | fastwarded? ministeps? speed selection? |
| 23:33:29 | PaulPosition | z0de - sorry, I for one don't know.. You want to hear the music faster or what? Speed selection (actually, acceleration) is for seeking faster into the file but I don't think there exist any sort of 'pitch x 600%' speed setting, no. |
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| 23:34:34 | midkay_ | we have a pitch screen, if that's what you mean, z0de.. i don't know where you got "fastwarded" or "ministeps", though. |
| 23:34:39 | z0de | nope thats not what i want |
| 23:34:51 | z0de | ill list the menu options i used to get to the bit i mean |
| 23:34:56 | z0de | 1min |
| 23:35:04 | midkay_ | FF/RW speed/accel? |
| 23:35:19 | z0de | thats the one |
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| 23:35:24 | midkay_ | i thought those weren't what you wanted... what's your question then? |
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| 23:36:12 | PaulPosition | You won't get a continuous stream of sound from FFWD if that's what you mean. |
| 23:36:26 | z0de | oh |
| 23:36:36 | z0de | so i cant make them sound like chipmunks? |
| 23:36:47 | midkay_ | haha. you can kinda with the pitch screen.. |
| 23:36:50 | PaulPosition | z0de - You can, with the 'pitch' option. |
| 23:37:18 | z0de | i just wanted an easer way to find a part in a song without knowing time stamps |
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| 23:37:56 | midkay_ | ah, well, sorry, there is no way to do that right now. |
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| 23:38:19 | z0de | thats fine |
| 23:38:23 | PaulPosition | Sorry, that was cool in the good ol' time of the walkman (press play and ffwd) but I don't know of an mp3 player that does this.. |
| 23:38:44 | z0de | neither do i, but this is rockbox |
| 23:38:47 | z0de | :) |
| 23:39:23 | z0de | do you think it would be possible? |
| 23:40:34 | midgey34 | does someone want to close this? |
| 23:40:35 | midgey34 | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6228 |
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| 23:40:53 | midgey34 | pixelma's new logos should have fixed that |
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| 23:41:25 | PaulPosition | I have no idea, z0de. But have a look at the pitch screen, see how far you can push it maybe it helps you anyway. |
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| 23:42:12 | z0de | its not really pratical to adjust pitch just to find that cool solo |
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| 23:43:31 | pixelma | midgey34: it looks like someone closed it 20 minutes ago :) |
| 23:43:48 | midgey34 | woah, someone must have to same idea as me |
| 23:43:55 | * | midgey34 is bug hunting |
| 23:44:01 | z0de | i do have 1 other negative observation of rock box:if you set the skip-buffer to a minute you have to wait a minuite before doing any fast forwarding after turnining it on. |
| 23:45:47 | z0de | hmm problems gone away now |
| 23:47:07 | z0de | otherwise rockbox is a great bit of software |
| 23:47:09 | Soap | that is not what the anti-skip buffer is for |
| 23:47:13 | PaulPosition | 1 minute anti-skip?? What do you do, 100-meter hurdles running? |
| 23:47:20 | PaulPosition | ;) |
| 23:47:28 | z0de | i know Soap but its an issue i found |
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| 23:48:14 | Soap | can you reproduce that observation with a variety of settings in the anti-skip buffer? |
| 23:48:20 | z0de | im trying to now |
| 23:49:58 | z0de | like i said before it seems to have gone away |
| 23:51:08 | z0de | i did 1min to fix a different issue but it didnt work. when playing music if i then do a long scroll thorugh my album list the playback will stop untill i stop scrolling. this is repatable |
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| 23:53:18 | PaulPosition | Yeah, at one point it goes to the end of the buffer.. I guess if it kept buffering as much as you keep ffwd'ing it'd eat your batteries in a moment. dunno, I'm not technical enough to really understand. |
| 23:53:40 | PaulPosition | maybe this is nonsense. |
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| 23:56:09 | z0de | that was my though to so i hoped by increasing the anti skip buffer i could get around it |
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