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| 00:00:41 | PaulPosition | have a nice evening/morning/drinking everyone. |
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| 00:31:58 | Terinjokes | apple has changed the error messages on the ipod |
| 00:40:13 | Soap | do go on |
| 00:41:10 | Terinjokes | there is no more sad ipod |
| 00:41:42 | Terinjokes | i'll snap a picture in a second |
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| 00:47:32 | Terinjokes | it's sad when i can't get the image with any of my cameras, it just comes out blurrly |
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| 00:54:48 | Terinjokes | http://aboveultimate.com/spader/nanoerror.jpg |
| 00:55:35 | z0de | thats out of focus. if they cant read it how can they help? |
| 00:55:47 | z0de | oh i read above. |
| 00:57:10 | Terinjokes | yeah, it says "Please use iTunes to restore" |
| 00:57:21 | Terinjokes | no it doesn't |
| 00:57:32 | Terinjokes | says "Use iTunes to restore" |
| 00:57:50 | Terinjokes | they don't say please... |
| 00:58:18 | Terinjokes | i'll have access to a better camera tonight, so if you guess want to wait a bit |
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| 01:01:18 | Terinjokes | can someone resend my wiki password to me? i forgot it |
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| 01:10:06 | Terinjokes | hrm...need to backup the firmware |
| 01:20:02 | ze | Terinjokes: no macro mode? try backing away |
| 01:20:24 | ze | without macro mode you can't get close shots in-focus |
| 01:21:47 | ze | so you back away from the subject and it has a better time focusing on it... you take advantage of the megapixels to still get a usable resolution and crop to the effectively small image area of interest |
| 01:22:53 | Terinjokes | i got 2 freaking megapixels with this camera, my good one is on my desk....just i'm not near my desk |
| 01:23:07 | ze | should be enough |
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| 01:23:27 | ze | you don't need it to be desktop size |
| 01:24:00 | ze | if its in focus, stuff can be readable even without quite enough resolution to make it truely legible |
| 01:24:47 | Terinjokes | yeah, but it's a nano, screen's a bit scratched, i tried getting a clear shot, close up, and from farther away....but this is a really cheap camera |
| 01:25:16 | Terinjokes | i don't even think the things got focus... |
| 01:25:17 | ze | actually if you take the screen resolution of the device |
| 01:25:43 | ze | you can get away with the screen area in the image having (somewhat/slightly) less resolution in the photo and still be able to read it |
| 01:26:08 | ze | Terinjokes: usually focus is a range... it has a near value and then the far value is infinity |
| 01:26:20 | ze | Terinjokes: typically |
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| 01:26:35 | ze | Terinjokes: so even if the camera can't focus, you just need to get things far enough to be past the near value |
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| 01:26:58 | Terinjokes | i'll try again in a bit |
| 01:27:20 | Terinjokes | BTW, i heard that rockbox was going to try the zune, did i hear bad news? |
| 01:28:18 | ze | i've no idea if its even important to have an image of the screen, i'm just conveying my understanding out of an academic interest and general helpfulness, along with the curiosity to see if it pans out :p |
| 01:28:30 | ze | and i've no idea about the zune, maybe search the irc logs? |
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| 01:29:05 | Terinjokes | hrm...w/e |
| 01:29:22 | Terinjokes | who cares about error messages anyways |
| 01:29:23 | ze | i never even heard of the zune untill i saw it in a bestbuy ad |
| 01:29:43 | ze | which was just like last week or so |
| 01:30:18 | ze | and i thought "wow, somebody's trying to do an ipod-killer" |
| 01:30:28 | ze | with a rip-off of ipod's styling :p |
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| 01:30:45 | Terinjokes | YES!!!!!!! |
| 01:30:52 | Terinjokes | I've finally got it! |
| 01:31:09 | Terinjokes | Rockbox works with Nano firmware 1.3!!!!! |
| 01:31:28 | ze | congrats |
| 01:31:42 | ze | i'm still waiting till i can get rockbox on my mom's 80G 5.5g ipod |
| 01:31:58 | Terinjokes | it dual-boots properly now (ie, songs appear in both OF and in Rockbox) |
| 01:32:46 | Terinjokes | now i can choose weather i want to use OF or Rockbox |
| 01:33:35 | * | Terinjokes chooses Rockbox, but other people use the ipod, so they my wish to use OF |
| 01:33:56 | Soap | I care about changed error messages if the wiki/manual needs to be updated to reflect what users will actually be asking about. |
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| 01:34:33 | Soap | I assume your install with apple firmware 1.3 was identical to the nano 1.2/video install? |
| 01:34:35 | Terinjokes | Soap, true, true...mind reseting my password on the wiki so i may update the directions for installing rockbox on nano |
| 01:34:43 | Terinjokes | sí |
| 01:34:51 | Soap | I do not have that power. |
| 01:34:59 | Terinjokes | resend the password? |
| 01:37:04 | Soap | I assume the change you are refering to is: |
| 01:37:06 | Soap | |
| 01:37:06 | Soap | TWiki > Main > IpodPort > IpodInstallation |
| 01:37:06 | Soap | Main . { Users | Groups | Changes | Index | Search | Go } |
| 01:37:06 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK Soap |
| 01:37:06 | Soap | How to install Rockbox on your iPod |
| 01:37:06 | Soap | * First, a thank you |
| 01:37:07 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 01:37:07 | Soap | * Introduction |
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| 01:37:09 | Soap | * Notes before installing |
| 01:37:11 | Soap | o Rockbox works only on FAT32 formatted iPods |
| 01:37:13 | Soap | o Music browsing |
| 01:37:15 | Soap | o Installers |
| 01:37:17 | Soap | * Warning For iPod Nano 1st gen Users |
| 01:37:19 | Soap | * Uninstallation and Upgrade instructions |
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| 01:37:21 | Soap | * Installation instructions |
| 01:37:23 | Soap | o Step 1 - Install Rockbox |
| 01:37:25 | Soap | + a) Download rockbox.zip for your iPod |
| 01:37:27 | Soap | + b) Unzip rockbox.zip to your iPod |
| 01:37:29 | Soap | o Step 2: Install the bootloader |
| 01:37:31 | Soap | + a) Download the required files |
| 01:37:35 | Soap | + b) Find your iPod |
| 01:37:37 | Soap | + c.1) (all users except iPodLinux users) Read the existing firmware partition from your iPod |
| 01:37:39 | Terinjokes | no Soap, it's the whole guide, just updates here and there |
| 01:37:39 | Soap | + c.2) (iPodLinux users only) Extract an unmodified firmware image |
| 01:37:41 | Soap | + d.1) (All users INCLUDING Video/5G) Extract the Apple firmware from your firmware partition image. |
| 01:37:45 | Soap | + d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. |
| 01:37:47 | Soap | + e) Create the new Rockbox-enabled image file containing the Rockbox Bootloader |
| 01:37:49 | Soap | + f) Install the bootloader! |
| 01:37:51 | Soap | + g) Testing |
| 01:37:53 | Soap | o Step 3 - Download and read the manual |
| 01:37:55 | Soap | o Step 4 - Enjoy Rockbox |
| 01:37:59 | Soap | * Further information about using Rockbox |
| 01:38:00 | Soap | * Recovering from a crash |
| 01:38:02 | Soap | * Installing Rockbox along with iPL Loader2 Boot Menu (UNOFFICIAL AND UNSUPPORTED!) |
| 01:38:04 | Soap | This page contains instructions for Windows users. Mac OS users should use IpodInstallationFromMacOSX. Linux users should use IpodInstallationFromLinux. |
| 01:38:09 | Soap | First, a thank you |
| 01:38:11 | Soap | The Rockbox port to the iPod has only been made possible by the hard work of the members of the ipodlinux project who have performed the difficult and time-consuming task of understanding a hardware platform with almost no available documentation. If it wasn't for th |
| 01:38:15 | Soap | whoa |
| 01:38:16 | Soap | I didn't think I selected all that. |
| 01:38:19 | Soap | sorry all |
| 01:38:20 | Soap | missing my point in the mass paste |
| 01:38:22 | Soap | d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. |
| 01:38:26 | Soap | to |
| 01:38:29 | Soap | d.2) (iPod Video/5G and Nano 1st gen with Apple firmware v1.2 or greater users only) Extract the resource image from your firmware partition image. |
| 01:38:47 | webguest13 | why cant rockbox be run on newer video ipods? will it ever be able to run on them? |
| 01:39:02 | Terinjokes | Soap, i'm going to update the whole guide, there updates i've noticed all over the place |
| 01:39:37 | Terinjokes | just, it's rejecting my user/pass as i remember it |
| 01:39:40 | Soap | webguest13: it can on the 30gig 5.5G, the problem with the 80gig is unknown, thus a timeline is unknowable, but it is highly believed it will be resolved. |
| 01:39:46 | Psiuyo | webguest13> It works on the new 30GB, just not the 80GB |
| 01:40:32 | webguest13 | Soap: Psiuyo : ok thanks |
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| 01:41:08 | webguest13 | is there going to be a vlc port for rockbox? that would truly rock |
| 01:41:23 | Terinjokes | LOL, probablt not |
| 01:41:54 | ze | i thought the problem with the 80G was that its formatted with at (unsupported) larger block size? |
| 01:42:04 | ze | or something like that |
| 01:42:04 | Soap | Though overestimates the power of a 80mhz dual core ARM processor. |
| 01:42:20 | Soap | whoa spelling. |
| 01:42:37 | webguest13 | what about a pdf viewer? |
| 01:42:54 | Soap | Have you seen the PDF viewers for PalmPilots? |
| 01:42:58 | Terinjokes | yes |
| 01:43:00 | Soap | The official one? |
| 01:43:05 | Terinjokes | no, that one sucks |
| 01:43:09 | webguest13 | soap: nope |
| 01:43:13 | Terinjokes | i have a palm TX |
| 01:43:28 | Soap | on a 320x320 screen PDFs formated for a printed (8.5x11) page stink. |
| 01:43:44 | Soap | Plucker would be a better viewer IMHO. |
| 01:44:06 | Terinjokes | there, remember my user/pass combo |
| 01:44:06 | webguest13 | i would like to see an open source operating system for the sony reader |
| 01:45:25 | webguest13 | the sony reader looks pretty worthless as is...but would have such great open source potential |
| 01:45:58 | Terinjokes | the zune looks pretty worthless as is...but would have such great open source potential |
| 01:46:26 | Soap | honking processor on the zune. |
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| 01:47:28 | webguest13 | a next generation nokia internet tablet might be worthwhile |
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| 01:47:40 | webguest13 | if they make the right decisions |
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| 01:48:37 | Terinjokes | can someone please remove that annoying message from chanserv on joining the channel? |
| 01:50:34 | webguest13 | i dont understand why some company just doesnt create a kickass portable hardware device and then have a team like rockbox design the os and drop off the specs |
| 01:52:22 | webguest13 | or like imagine micro sized pcs where you could just exchange parts |
| 01:52:47 | Terinjokes | because it's not good business since for big companies |
| 01:53:08 | webguest13 | the pc did a lot of good for business |
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| 01:56:21 | webguest13 | there would just have to be like an ibm to set a standard...or i dont see why an opensource community could draw up specs for something, give it to a coroporation with a promise that the code remains open and then just go from there |
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| 02:40:15 | Terinjokes | what's dithering? |
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| 02:42:39 | ztorm | Any expert here atm? |
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| 03:04:09 | scorche` | ztorm: just ask your question instead of asking permission ;) |
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| 03:06:23 | ztorm | Well just followed the manual installing rockbox on my 2:nd generation Ipod mini. It ended up with an error "rockbox error -1" and some more. (dont know which of it is relevant). Anyways now my computer dosnt detect the harddrive on the ipod and its rebooting constantly:) |
| 03:07:37 | scorche | well, first off enable disk mode by pressing select+play when it reboots |
| 03:08:52 | ztorm | Okay, worked :) |
| 03:09:52 | ztorm | Im guessing im missing some files in my ipod, since im not seeing any boot files |
| 03:11:22 | scorche | did you copy the rockbox.ipod file and the .rockbox folder tot he root of the device? |
| 03:11:35 | ztorm | rockbox-ipodmini2g-20061122 |
| 03:11:50 | ztorm | the entire thing? |
| 03:11:50 | scorche | that is the bootloader |
| 03:12:07 | scorche | you have to go get a daily or CVS build from the site and unzip it to the root |
| 03:12:18 | ztorm | ah okay |
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| 03:13:49 | ztorm | Everything is to be extrated to the root of the ipod? |
| 03:13:50 | Terinjokes | in a WPS, can i force rockbox back to the default font? |
| 03:14:04 | Terinjokes | rockbox.ipod should be in root |
| 03:14:15 | Terinjokes | the folder .rockbox should also be in root |
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| 03:14:44 | shrimants | hey there |
| 03:15:10 | scorche | Terinjokes: you can make it whatever font you specify... |
| 03:15:21 | Terinjokes | what's the default font called? |
| 03:15:44 | Terinjokes | and how would i call it? |
| 03:16:05 | shrimants | download the build and ceck whats in the fonts folder to begin with |
| 03:16:21 | shrimants | and that would be the default font |
| 03:16:23 | shrimants | i think |
| 03:16:51 | scorche | wrong ;) |
| 03:16:52 | Terinjokes | there is no font on a straight build |
| 03:17:02 | scorche | the default is hardcoded in |
| 03:17:07 | scorche | as with the default wps |
| 03:17:41 | Terinjokes | how can i call on that font then? if a user uses another font, then nothing appears correctly |
| 03:17:55 | shrimants | damn |
| 03:18:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:18:01 | * | shrimants kills himself in shame |
| 03:18:02 | scorche | font: /.rockbox/fonts/rockbox_default.fnt |
| 03:19:09 | scorche | put that in the mytheme.cfg under /.rockbox/themes |
| 03:19:38 | Terinjokes | it's actually /.rockbox/fonts/rockbox_default.fnt |
| 03:19:47 | Terinjokes | nvm |
| 03:19:51 | scorche | err...heh |
| 03:20:32 | ztorm | scorche many thanks for you help :) |
| 03:21:12 | shrimants | hey is it possible to delete the plugins that come with rockbox |
| 03:21:17 | shrimants | all the ipl stuff? |
| 03:21:20 | Soap | Terinjokes: dittering is the process of using randomness to create order. |
| 03:21:22 | shrimants | and would that make it run faster? |
| 03:21:25 | shrimants | i mean boot |
| 03:21:54 | * | scorche quizzically glances at Soap |
| 03:22:22 | scorche | shrimants: what do the plugins have to do with ipl? |
| 03:22:30 | Terinjokes | Soap, i already looked it up in WP, so slow :) |
| 03:22:32 | Soap | In the context of rockbox it is the process of adding a random element to the rounding of maths in the audio decoding so that a predictable set of rounding errors does not lead to audible harmonics. |
| 03:22:51 | shrimants | oh no, i meant they are found on ipl also |
| 03:22:53 | scorche | Terinjokes: yes he is =) |
| 03:23:19 | Terinjokes | shrimants, the plugins are different |
| 03:23:31 | shrimants | but can they be removed? |
| 03:23:40 | scorche | yes |
| 03:23:46 | shrimants | would it boot faster? |
| 03:23:50 | Terinjokes | no? |
| 03:23:54 | scorche | no |
| 03:23:56 | shrimants | then screw it |
| 03:23:58 | shrimants | lol |
| 03:24:08 | shrimants | i might as well have something to fiddle with in class |
| 03:24:12 | Terinjokes | the rocks are cool! |
| 03:24:14 | shrimants | if it makes no difference |
| 03:24:22 | shrimants | oh yeah, is there a sleep mode? |
| 03:24:33 | shrimants | cuz i have to keep shutting it down |
| 03:24:49 | Soap | there is no sleep mode at this time. |
| 03:24:55 | shrimants | k thnx |
| 03:25:07 | scorche | sorry, but you have to wat those couple of seconds |
| 03:25:12 | scorche | wait |
| 03:25:13 | scorche | ;) |
| 03:25:17 | shrimants | lol |
| 03:25:32 | shrimants | i was about to switch back to normal fw |
| 03:25:41 | shrimants | cuz i didnt see the tag cache view |
| 03:25:54 | shrimants | and then i realized what it does when you hold the menu button |
| 03:26:02 | shrimants | and now, screw apple default fw |
| 03:26:08 | shrimants | i dont watch movies and pics anyways |
| 03:26:13 | ztorm | Ah so nice with rockbox ^^ |
| 03:26:20 | ztorm | Off to bed now, thanks again scorche |
| 03:26:22 | scorche | pics work fine with rockbox... |
| 03:26:25 | shrimants | i n |
| 03:26:27 | shrimants | o |
| 03:26:31 | shrimants | but i dont use them |
| 03:26:31 | Terinjokes | scorche, not GIFs |
| 03:26:40 | shrimants | oh that reminds me |
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| 03:26:51 | shrimants | gotta offload pics from camera to comp |
| 03:26:53 | shrimants | brb |
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| 03:29:54 | shrimants_pictur | stupid batteries |
| 03:30:08 | shrimants_pictur | i cant wait till MIT perfects their wireless energy technology |
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| 03:30:37 | Terinjokes | grr...my theme file stopped working |
| 03:30:47 | shrimants | oh noes |
| 03:30:55 | shrimants | im using RaiderX's themeXglow |
| 03:31:28 | Terinjokes | any ideas on why the folder '.rockbox'had to start with a period |
| 03:31:40 | shrimants | i was wondering that |
| 03:31:49 | Terinjokes | soooo annoying on my mac |
| 03:31:55 | shrimants | lol macs |
| 03:31:59 | shrimants | i hate windows tho :( |
| 03:32:11 | shrimants | mac seems so shitty cuz it used to be so shitty |
| 03:32:18 | shrimants | but then you walk into the apple store |
| 03:32:19 | * | scorche ahems |
| 03:32:20 | shrimants | and you use one |
| 03:32:39 | shrimants | and then you realize that bill gates should take his dell and shove it up his a** |
| 03:32:50 | Terinjokes | you realise "wow, these things are really white" |
| 03:32:54 | shrimants | lol |
| 03:32:58 | shrimants | and then you look some more |
| 03:33:06 | scorche | and see that there are black ones... |
| 03:33:12 | scorche | and silver...\ |
| 03:33:15 | Terinjokes | there black imacs? |
| 03:33:16 | scorche | ;) |
| 03:33:19 | shrimants | and you realize "wow if i donate both kidneys and my lower half, i might be able to afford the 17 inch" |
| 03:33:39 | * | scorche notices that his ahem went unnoticed |
| 03:33:40 | * | shrimants donates both kidneys and his lower half |
| 03:33:45 | Terinjokes | what scorche? |
| 03:33:51 | * | shrimants notices scorche's ahem |
| 03:34:05 | Terinjokes | i noticed the ahem, but was wanting for some words |
| 03:34:07 | * | shrimants ignores the alleged 'ahem's connotation |
| 03:34:19 | * | scorche growls |
| 03:34:24 | * | shrimants purrs |
| 03:34:26 | shrimants | ? |
| 03:34:28 | shrimants | lol |
| 03:34:39 | * | shrimants throws meat at scorche |
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| 03:34:50 | shrimants | stop growling |
| 03:34:52 | * | scorche types /msg |
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| 03:34:58 | shrimants | oh noes |
| 03:35:05 | shrimants | secrets arent fun!!! |
| 03:35:07 | * | scorche adds chanserv |
| 03:35:09 | Terinjokes | scorche! continue |
| 03:35:20 | shrimants | (wow we got really side tracked) |
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| 03:35:51 | Terinjokes | yeah! why does rockbox need the folder to be '.rockbox' and not 'rockbox' ? |
| 03:35:51 | scorche | shrimants: thanks for noticing!...and now back to our regularly scheduled rockbox talk and silence |
| 03:36:05 | scorche | Terinjokes: it is a system thing |
| 03:36:13 | Terinjokes | who system? |
| 03:38:21 | shrimants | god what a boring chat room |
| 03:38:32 | shrimants | o well, at least its really helpful |
| 03:38:55 | Terinjokes | is there anyway of changing it? |
| 03:39:05 | shrimants | the boringness? |
| 03:39:07 | scorche | shrimants: well, this sint a social channel |
| 03:39:11 | shrimants | oh ok |
| 03:39:15 | shrimants | yeah that woyuld explain it |
| 03:39:48 | shrimants | ok then, i got all my current questions answered |
| 03:39:52 | shrimants | thanx, all |
| 03:39:54 | shrimants | later |
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| 03:39:57 | * | Terinjokes invites shrimants to other non-social channels like #wikinews |
| 03:40:34 | Terinjokes | does doom work with freedom? |
| 03:40:39 | Terinjokes | and where's iBoy? |
| 03:40:52 | scorche | this isnt ipl |
| 03:40:57 | scorche | we have rockboy |
| 03:41:10 | scorche | both questions can be answered in the wiki |
| 03:41:27 | scorche | under PluginDoom and PluginRockboy respectively |
| 03:41:48 | Terinjokes | still no nano... |
| 03:42:19 | scorche | nano doesnt support rockboy as you would see in the wiki page |
| 03:42:45 | Terinjokes | i know...i've seen that page many times |
| 03:44:31 | scorche | then why ask? ;) |
| 03:44:49 | Terinjokes | maybe a top secert beta? |
| 03:45:16 | scorche | this is open source though... |
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| 03:45:52 | Terinjokes | oh...forgot... |
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| 03:52:59 | Terinjokes | grr...doom froze up on me |
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| 04:20:09 | dubstyle | anyone awake? |
| 04:20:58 | goffa_ | me |
| 04:21:42 | webguest13 | rockboy doesnt work very well for me on ipod video |
| 04:22:17 | dubstyle | sup guys, i got a quick question about compiling if anyone has a min |
| 04:22:34 | dubstyle | im trying to "make zip" and im getting find: apps: no such file or directory |
| 04:23:01 | goffa_ | odd.. were there errors on compile? |
| 04:23:46 | dubstyle | nope, i had one but managed to fix it |
| 04:23:54 | goffa_ | what was the prob? |
| 04:24:06 | dubstyle | "the compiler you must use (m68k-elf-gcc) is not in your path" |
| 04:24:13 | goffa_ | ah |
| 04:24:41 | dubstyle | i managed to edit the bash.bashrc file to add that line about the path |
| 04:24:49 | dubstyle | that seems to let it complile without errors |
| 04:25:28 | goffa_ | yeah |
| 04:25:35 | goffa_ | it just didn't know where to find the compiler |
| 04:26:23 | dubstyle | any clue about that other error "apps: no such file or dir" |
| 04:26:41 | dubstyle | im bummed, there was a post on misticriver.net with the exact problem im having, the guy fixed it himself tho and never said how |
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| 04:27:57 | goffa_ | hmm ... stupid question.. but are you doing that in your build directory? |
| 04:28:05 | dubstyle | i am |
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| 04:28:07 | dubstyle | ahhh |
| 04:28:08 | dubstyle | is that it? |
| 04:28:30 | goffa_ | well probably not... because you should have apps in the same dir that you type that command |
| 04:29:12 | dubstyle | i see |
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| 04:29:45 | goffa_ | you did make first right? |
| 04:29:50 | dubstyle | yes |
| 04:30:05 | goffa_ | ok.. i'm just eliminating the obvious |
| 04:30:17 | goffa_ | because i don't know much about the non obvious :) |
| 04:30:23 | dubstyle | i did my make in /rockbox daily/build |
| 04:30:39 | goffa_ | ok.. that should be correct |
| 04:31:03 | dubstyle | the only thing in that dir is makefile and autoconf.h |
| 04:31:20 | goffa_ | hmm... |
| 04:32:29 | goffa_ | i think i usually make a dir in tools |
| 04:32:41 | goffa_ | like /rockbox daily/tools/build |
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| 04:32:49 | goffa_ | then run ../configure from the build dir |
| 04:33:10 | goffa_ | but i donk't know if that makes a difference |
| 04:33:44 | dubstyle | when you run configure from within the tools dir, do u run ../tools/configure or just ../configure |
| 04:33:58 | goffa_ | and um... in the dir where you have autoconf.h and the makefile |
| 04:33:59 | goffa_ | run make |
| 04:34:04 | goffa_ | not make zip |
| 04:34:42 | dubstyle | it just told me all my files are up to date |
| 04:35:04 | dubstyle | hmm |
| 04:35:07 | goffa_ | that's odd.. because it should put a ton of files in that dir |
| 04:35:12 | dubstyle | nevermind, now its doing a lot more |
| 04:35:20 | goffa_ | ok |
| 04:35:41 | goffa_ | after the make do an ls |
| 04:35:45 | goffa_ | and see if you have a bunch of files |
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| 04:36:35 | dubstyle | what player do you use? |
| 04:36:39 | dantheman | hi |
| 04:36:46 | goffa_ | i have an x5l and an h140 |
| 04:36:55 | goffa_ | and a gigabeat.. but that's not developed yet |
| 04:36:58 | dubstyle | ah tru, im using a h340 |
| 04:37:48 | goffa_ | yeah... those look nice.. people seem to like them |
| 04:37:48 | dubstyle | ok, it made "apps" "bitmaps" "firmware" dir, and then several files |
| 04:37:56 | goffa_ | ok.. now try the make zip |
| 04:37:58 | goffa_ | or make fullzip |
| 04:38:01 | goffa_ | depending |
| 04:39:31 | dubstyle | yeah, im trying to compile simple build thats updated with the CVS and is patched to use all the new .wps's |
| 04:39:46 | goffa_ | nice |
| 04:39:58 | goffa_ | yeah.. i patch mine to do the click insert and left to wps |
| 04:40:02 | goffa_ | i like both of those |
| 04:40:13 | dubstyle | ok it made an rockbox.zip but it gave me this message |
| 04:40:31 | dubstyle | zip warning:name not matched: rockbox.iriver |
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| 04:40:41 | dubstyle | zip error:nothing to do! (rockbox.xip) |
| 04:40:44 | goffa_ | do you have a rockbox.iriver in the same folder? |
| 04:40:49 | dubstyle | no |
| 04:40:56 | goffa_ | wierd |
| 04:41:09 | dubstyle | damn, so close |
| 04:41:09 | goffa_ | did id prompt you for which platform you wanted to build the device on? |
| 04:41:13 | dubstyle | yes |
| 04:41:25 | goffa_ | hmm... unzip the file |
| 04:41:26 | dubstyle | when i ran ../rools/configure |
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| 04:41:39 | goffa_ | see if it makes rockbox.iriver |
| 04:42:09 | dubstyle | nah, its just the rockbox dir that seems to be compiled |
| 04:42:26 | goffa_ | hmm... do you have rockbox.iriver on your player? |
| 04:42:30 | dubstyle | yes |
| 04:42:35 | dubstyle | think that would work? |
| 04:42:39 | goffa_ | i think it would |
| 04:42:45 | goffa_ | what i would do is this |
| 04:43:03 | goffa_ | put all the rockbox files from your player in a folder on the player for backup |
| 04:43:07 | goffa_ | then put your new build on there |
| 04:43:12 | goffa_ | see what happens |
| 04:43:23 | dubstyle | ok |
| 04:43:28 | goffa_ | if it doesn't work just move stuff back |
| 04:43:42 | goffa_ | check the build date on the splash screen |
| 04:43:48 | jba | there used to be a faq about dymaic playlists and the fact rockbox is a filesystem player |
| 04:43:52 | goffa_ | just to make sure that you updated |
| 04:43:53 | jba | cann't seem to find it anywhere |
| 04:44:05 | dubstyle | has the CVS made much improvements since auguest 1st? |
| 04:44:21 | goffa_ | dubstyle: i'd say yes |
| 04:44:41 | goffa_ | esp for my target... dunno what's been done for the 340.. that's been pretty stable for a while |
| 04:45:00 | dubstyle | the whole reason im doing this is cus the build thats already up on misticriver that i use hasnt been updated in 2 months |
| 04:45:03 | dubstyle | lol |
| 04:45:10 | goffa_ | ah |
| 04:45:34 | goffa_ | yeah.. i've gone like a whole 2 weeks without updating.. lol |
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| 04:46:02 | goffa_ | click insert was huge for me |
| 04:47:23 | dubstyle | what is that? |
| 04:47:39 | dubstyle | i havent been checking up on the updates much the last few months |
| 04:48:07 | goffa_ | well.. you can set insert as the default action in the file browser |
| 04:48:18 | goffa_ | so it will add selected track next in the playlist |
| 04:48:31 | goffa_ | without erasing your playlist and queuing current dir |
| 04:48:43 | goffa_ | its not in by default.. you have to patch |
| 04:48:57 | dubstyle | lol |
| 04:49:03 | goffa_ | the devs like the default action.. so i doubt it will be included |
| 04:49:07 | dubstyle | rockbox booted up but is givign me a million erros |
| 04:49:11 | goffa_ | lol |
| 04:49:19 | dubstyle | codecs are all off |
| 04:49:42 | goffa_ | did you do make zip or make fullzip? |
| 04:49:48 | dubstyle | make zip |
| 04:49:50 | dubstyle | ill try the other |
| 04:49:56 | goffa_ | yeah.. |
| 04:50:03 | goffa_ | dunno if it'll help.. but worth a shot |
| 04:50:23 | dubstyle | do u run linux or windows? |
| 04:50:41 | goffa_ | yep :) |
| 04:50:47 | goffa_ | linux at home |
| 04:50:48 | dubstyle | haha |
| 04:50:50 | goffa_ | windows when forced |
| 04:50:58 | goffa_ | like at work |
| 04:51:19 | dubstyle | i installed cygwin and all that shit, then i rememberd i have a suse build on this comp |
| 04:51:20 | dubstyle | haha |
| 04:51:28 | goffa_ | ha ha ha |
| 04:51:33 | dubstyle | the thought of installing all those dependancies gives me a headache tho |
| 04:51:35 | goffa_ | much nicer |
| 04:51:38 | goffa_ | yeah |
| 04:52:16 | dubstyle | damn, same studd, name not matched |
| 04:52:24 | goffa_ | hmm |
| 04:52:37 | goffa_ | nuke that dir.. and try doing it again |
| 04:52:48 | goffa_ | if that doesn't do it.. i'm not sure what's up |
| 04:53:21 | goffa_ | damn.. knock at the door.. bbl |
| 04:53:32 | dubstyle | thanks man |
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| 05:00:18 | dubstyle | do you think any patches that im using could be causing these errors? |
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| 05:02:07 | dubstyle | damn, im almost postive thats teh problem now |
| 05:02:28 | dubstyle | there was an error in the make, looks like its from the album art patch |
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| 05:13:52 | dantheman | hi lynx |
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| 05:49:28 | shrimants | hey guys |
| 05:49:37 | shrimants | im back with another question |
| 05:49:53 | shrimants | (instead of idle conversation) |
| 05:50:43 | shrimants | is there an autosync utility or file for rockbox? i know that i used to have one that was based off of an autorun.inf file or something |
| 05:50:59 | shrimants | but i have no idea what i did with it or what it was called |
| 05:52:06 | shrimants | nvm found it |
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| 07:21:11 | webguest23 | can someone help me with rockdoom ? |
| 07:21:30 | webguest23 | im trying to get it to work |
| 07:22:02 | webguest23 | it runs but i cant seem to get any buttons configured |
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| 07:32:06 | dubstyle311 | whats the point of games? |
| 07:32:08 | dubstyle311 | i dont get it |
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| 07:36:02 | webguest23 | dubstyle311: me neither...bubbles is the only one that works ok |
| 07:36:42 | webguest23 | cant even really strafe |
| 07:37:53 | webguest23 | ipods dont have enough buttons for rockboy and doom |
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| 07:50:59 | RoC_MM | I use m ipod for music |
| 07:51:06 | RoC_MM | I have a playstation 9 for games. |
| 07:51:17 | RoC_MM | it only costs 9,000 dollars |
| 07:54:40 | Nibbier | snt it just cool, oh yes it is |
| 07:55:07 | Nibbier | i remember doom port was a april fools joke once on rockbox list :) |
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| 08:56:42 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: nice work on the recorder setings :) |
| 08:57:11 | JdGordon | I havnt noticed any slowness in the menus... but ill keep an eye on it |
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| 09:03:50 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: thanks |
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| 09:04:56 | jhMikeS | now I have to make the sound_ functions work for settings with any number of parameters but for now just 1 and 2 |
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| 09:09:52 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: still need the right events sent :) I have some thoughts on what's needed there. Maybe a couple name changes and option lists should be able to hide items as well (recording source, FM Radio) while returning the index in the full list. |
| 09:11:07 | JdGordon | :) |
| 09:11:19 | JdGordon | you didnt add any more files did you? |
| 09:11:31 | jhMikeS | It could save a lot of menu code in those functions. |
| 09:11:42 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: None of my own |
| 09:11:57 | jhMikeS | Did I miss another? |
| 09:12:21 | JdGordon | no, just making sure my script to make the patch will work corectly still |
| 09:12:53 | jhMikeS | What I put up there is just a diff from CVS at the time |
| 09:13:03 | JdGordon | k |
| 09:13:39 | jhMikeS | It applied and compiled I hope (it should) |
| 09:13:52 | JdGordon | yup, all god |
| 09:13:54 | JdGordon | good |
| 09:14:52 | JdGordon | shold i bother redoing the menu code so a proper actio is sent the firs time an item is enetered and also when exited? |
| 09:16:06 | jhMikeS | I think entry and exit should be for both entry/exit of a submenu and entry/exit of setting itself |
| 09:21:19 | JdGordon | ok, all items will get REQUEST_MENUITEM before bein displayed, then ENTER_MENUITEM the first time it is enetred, and EXIT_MENUITEM on exit |
| 09:21:30 | JdGordon | bit more logical now |
| 09:21:32 | jhMikeS | Shouln't entry really be any different behavior if the menu item is another menu or a setting. And a query about each item should be sent the same way if it's an items in an option list or the items in the menuitem (ok each item in the parent). |
| 09:21:43 | jhMikeS | Should rather |
| 09:22:00 | JdGordon | everything is handled the same way |
| 09:22:05 | jhMikeS | ah |
| 09:22:21 | JdGordon | the difference is the REQUEST_ is only sent to subitems of the menu about t be enered |
| 09:22:29 | JdGordon | entered* |
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| 09:23:45 | jhMikeS | what about querying items in a list of options like whether FM Radio should be in the list of sources? That must be dynamic. |
| 09:25:22 | JdGordon | yeah, there shhuoldnt be a problem with that... |
| 09:26:42 | jhMikeS | But option list items don't have pointers. How do I know the option value being queried about like AUDIO_SRC_FMRAIO? |
| 09:28:21 | JdGordon | oh, ok, i was confused.. you need dymanic setting lists... thats can be done in a similar way, because there is a helper funcito to put together a optoin list for the settings, so it can be extended to have a calback to figure out which need to be shown and which to skip |
| 09:28:37 | jhMikeS | CB might need two parameters, if the item is a menu item, 2nd param ignored otherwise the numeric id |
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| 09:29:17 | JdGordon | maybe, lemme fix the menu stuff first, then we cn figure this out |
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| 09:31:01 | jhMikeS | All menus are submenus. A submenu consists of submenus and settings. :P |
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| 09:31:20 | jhMikeS | that's just the way I think about it |
| 09:31:39 | JdGordon | thats how its supposed to work |
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| 09:32:40 | JdGordon | grrr.. back in a bit |
| 09:33:30 | webguest37 | is there something wrong with my browser that i dont see several targets in the CVS downloads page |
| 09:33:43 | kwinchee | Hello |
| 09:34:03 | kwinchee | can someone help me out |
| 09:34:12 | kwinchee | with an Iriver H340 |
| 09:34:17 | webguest37 | just pose the question |
| 09:35:45 | webguest37 | Bagder morning |
| 09:36:00 | JdGordon | webguest37: a few are missing here also |
| 09:36:05 | Bagder | obviously something failed |
| 09:36:10 | JdGordon | nope |
| 09:36:12 | JdGordon | clean table |
| 09:36:24 | Bagder | well, I bet something failed |
| 09:36:27 | webguest37 | ah then its not my browser, thanks |
| 09:37:19 | kwinchee | I have a h340 that has corrupt firmware and i need to reflash it execpt the player its self dose not pick up the harddrive |
| 09:37:32 | kwinchee | but i can acsess the hdd in usb |
| 09:37:49 | kwinchee | can i reflash the firmware from a serial cable |
| 09:38:02 | webguest37 | replace the firmware files on your player and try to reflash |
| 09:38:46 | webguest37 | are you running rockbox or original firmware |
| 09:39:15 | dubstyle311 | yo guys, has the cvs been improved a lot since the beginning of augest? |
| 09:39:27 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/biew/Main/MajorChanges |
| 09:39:35 | rasher | eh |
| 09:39:37 | dubstyle311 | 404 |
| 09:39:38 | kwinchee | when im in the players OS it will not find thee hard drive and just tells me i have oooo files so i cant reflash the player that way |
| 09:39:52 | rasher | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 09:40:12 | dubstyle311 | thanks |
| 09:41:01 | webguest37 | kwinchee, if you can make a backup of your files do so, then try and load ALL firmware files to your player, then try to reflash your player |
| 09:42:30 | webguest37 | kwinchee, if it still cant read the files, the reformat the hard drive, use the original OS's format option if you can, if not then try swissknife, ensure that you format to FAT32 |
| 09:43:02 | petur | webguest37: he just said he can't access the disk from OF |
| 09:43:20 | webguest37 | just covering all the bases |
| 09:44:02 | petur | webguest37: is the disk ok? when accessed over USB, can you chkdsk it? |
| 09:44:05 | jhMikeS | Not sure if I should revert the grayscale intensity change I did and do a more thorough treatment to make it user adjustable. It works well for some and not others and too dark is worse than too light. |
| 09:44:40 | kwinchee | the disk over usb is 100% i have been using it as a portable hdd |
| 09:44:54 | kwinchee | what is the best chkdsk to use |
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| 09:45:37 | petur | no idea, I usualy stick with what M$ offers |
| 09:46:00 | BHSPitLappy | eww |
| 09:46:07 | kwinchee | is ther a way to directley flash it witha serial cabl |
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| 09:46:13 | petur | no |
| 09:47:29 | petur | You could by using a BDM wiggler as LinusN used that to develop/test the bootloader (iirc) |
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| 09:48:08 | kwinchee | ??? how so |
| 09:49:25 | petur | you'd need to solder a connector to the board and also need extra hardware - don't know the details there |
| 09:49:52 | kwinchee | dose ne 1 |
| 09:50:24 | petur | LinusN knows |
| 09:53:33 | kwinchee | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments#iRiver |
| 09:54:04 | kwinchee | theses r the pinnous but wat to do with them |
| 09:54:28 | petur | more like this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverBDM |
| 09:55:51 | rasher | kwinchee: You can't flash with a serial cable, it needs much more "advanced" hardware |
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| 09:57:00 | petur | kwinchee: it would cost you $199 so I'd forget about that route... |
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| 10:00:29 | kwinchee2 | so what can i do |
| 10:00:45 | kwinchee2 | could i buy a new mother board |
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| 10:01:31 | petur | did you check misticriver? There are lots of reports about 0000 files, maybe some have a clue? |
| 10:01:41 | petur | also, does rockbox work? |
| 10:01:50 | kwinchee2 | no |
| 10:02:05 | petur | get an error? |
| 10:02:19 | kwinchee2 | i took it off rite befour it happened to play with the new firmware |
| 10:02:52 | kwinchee2 | but the new firmware worked for a few days |
| 10:02:58 | petur | take it off? |
| 10:03:12 | rasher | Do you still have the Rockbox bootloader installed? |
| 10:03:28 | kwinchee2 | yer |
| 10:04:05 | kwinchee2 | sry i put it back on like 4 days ago the new firm ware go boring so i went back th 1.29k |
| 10:04:24 | kwinchee2 | but it eorked up untill yester day |
| 10:04:48 | petur | flash doesn't normally corrupt itself just like that |
| 10:05:00 | petur | try resetting settings in iriver |
| 10:05:52 | petur | or reset iriver settings from within rockbox, I can give you an EEPROM settings file |
| 10:06:29 | kwinchee2 | HOW ??? i wont rede the hdd so it cant bootinto rockbox |
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| 10:07:00 | petur | so you say you can access the disk over USB but rockbox won't load? |
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| 10:09:29 | kwinchee2 | ok if it is pluged into usb and i lode up the player into iriver firm it dosenot see the hdd and i get 0000 files but if i view the hdd in my computer in can see the files |
| 10:10:05 | kwinchee2 | so its just a portable hdd now |
| 10:12:21 | rasher | So it's simply a problem with the iriver firmware? |
| 10:12:55 | rasher | Can you use Rockbox instead? |
| 10:13:15 | kwinchee2 | no |
| 10:13:20 | rasher | Why not? |
| 10:13:34 | kwinchee2 | it gives me an error |
| 10:13:51 | rasher | When, and which error? |
| 10:16:06 | kwinchee2 | it wont rede the files on thee hdd and dose nothing |
| 10:16:20 | rasher | Does nothing? |
| 10:16:28 | petur | kwinchee2: from searching the misticriver forum, I think you should really check the disk. attach it to usb, in windows right-click the drive -> properties -> tools -> Check Now |
| 10:18:24 | kwinchee2 | it completes with no errors |
| 10:20:00 | petur | this somehow doesn't make sense at all. Did you reformat it? It should be FAT32 |
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| 10:21:26 | kwinchee2 | i no it is fat32 |
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| 10:22:42 | petur | kwinchee2: when diskchecking, did you let it check for bad clusters? |
| 10:22:55 | kwinchee2 | yes |
| 10:26:45 | petur | can you remember what error rockbox gave? |
| 10:30:03 | kwinchee2 | no |
| 10:30:05 | kwinchee2 | sry |
| 10:30:41 | rasher | Can you try putting Rockbox back on? |
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| 10:30:58 | rasher | If you still have the bootloader installed, it should just be a matter of unzipping the latest build |
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| 10:37:19 | kwinchee2 | im not sure i have thee bootloder on it i may have flaashed to clean 1.29k |
| 10:38:53 | petur | if you connect usb while it is powered off, what screen do you get? |
| 10:39:23 | petur | if it says 'bootloader usb mode' you got the rockbox bootloader on |
| 10:40:13 | rasher | Anyway, can't you flash again? |
| 10:40:49 | petur | rasher: he just said he can't access the disk from OF |
| 10:41:04 | rasher | It might still be able to read the firmware file |
| 10:41:07 | * | petur hears strange echoes :p |
| 10:41:07 | rasher | Possibly |
| 10:41:08 | kwinchee2 | nothing |
| 10:41:21 | petur | nothing what? |
| 10:41:31 | kwinchee2 | it stays back then after a few min will start charging in iriver firm |
| 10:41:48 | petur | so no rockbox bootloader |
| 10:41:55 | petur | still in warranty? |
| 10:42:51 | kwinchee2 | no its 2years old |
| 10:43:28 | amiconn | LinusN: ping... |
| 10:45:52 | JdGordon | does anyone think the settings patch is ready for serious final testing before commit? the only thing off the top off my head which doesnt work as cvs is no-volatile settings and the h300 doesnt use them so i cant tes the code I've done for it... |
| 10:46:33 | kwinchee2 | what can i do i love my h340 so much |
| 10:46:47 | rasher | kwinchee2: Have you tried flashing a firmware? |
| 10:47:13 | kwinchee2 | yes nothing happens |
| 10:47:23 | * | petur is convinced the flash has nothing to do with the issue |
| 10:47:40 | kwinchee2 | i go to up firm and selectit and it just goes back to the menue |
| 10:48:09 | petur | reset settings to default? |
| 10:48:24 | kwinchee2 | it has to because i can acsee all the files over my computer just not through the player |
| 10:48:30 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Were you suggesting I revert those changes for the gray levels yesterday? I have no problem doing that and can come up with a better solution. |
| 10:48:44 | kwinchee2 | done it like 50 times nothing happens |
| 10:49:23 | petur | kwinchee2: I'd try to get it repaired somewhere... |
| 10:49:46 | kwinchee2 | i dont have ne money |
| 10:50:13 | kwinchee2 | im thinking of selling the hdd from it and buying a h10 |
| 10:51:20 | kwinchee2 | i love the 340 such beautiful sound thay actualy can offer a match to my senhiser audiophiles |
| 10:55:16 | kwinchee2 | ?? |
| 10:56:38 | * | scorche wonders how a DAP can pose a decent "match" to headphones... |
| 10:56:44 | petur | sorry, not much we can do I'm affraid |
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| 11:08:22 | markun | scorche: I read somewhere that one of the sony DAPs has a very good DAC+amp. Also the Kendwoods supposedly sound very good. |
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| 11:27:44 | LinusN | amiconn: pong |
| 11:28:10 | petur | pang.... |
| 11:29:32 | LinusN | kaching! |
| 11:29:38 | LinusN | poff! |
| 11:30:16 | rasher | See, this is why the "ping" method is a bad idea. Now if amiconn had said something, LinusN could have answered already |
| 11:30:17 | amiconn | Packet loss: 67%, average round trip: 2650 seconds |
| 11:30:37 | petur | hahaha |
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| 11:33:43 | petur | more like 2656 to be exact |
| 11:34:03 | * | petur stops wasting time and gets back to work |
| 11:35:48 | jhMikeS | amiconn: ok, I'll ask yet again :) do you think it wise for me to revert the gray level change? |
| 11:36:09 | amiconn | I'm undecided |
| 11:36:21 | jhMikeS | ok, just give word |
| 11:36:51 | amiconn | The old greyscale mapping was a little too bright. The new one is clearly too dark,on my H140 |
| 11:37:29 | jhMikeS | I figure until something better is done, too light is better than too dark when you have black text |
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| 11:42:52 | LinusN | it was about time that the percent vs dB discussion came to life again, i've missed it :-) |
| 11:43:19 | petur | :) |
| 11:45:05 | rasher | LinusN, Bagder: What needs to be done to enable automatic voice building? Anything I can help with? |
| 11:45:27 | LinusN | rasher: how ready are the scripts? |
| 11:46:08 | rasher | LinusN: They're included in the build system right now. Just run configure, select voice, make and you should have a voice file |
| 11:46:31 | rasher | (assuming nothing went wrong) |
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| 11:46:57 | LinusN | any issues with installing the tts system, for example festival? |
| 11:47:06 | jhMikeS | % vs. semitones: semitones |
| 11:47:30 | LinusN | jhMikeS: :-) |
| 11:48:07 | markun | rasher: about the languages.. If you build a esperanto voice with "speak -v eo" and some strings are missing it will fall back to english and they will sound wrong of course. |
| 11:48:11 | rasher | LinusN: Installing festival or flite should Just Work in Debian. The only problem is that you need lame as well |
| 11:48:38 | LinusN | ok |
| 11:48:40 | rasher | markun: Yeah, I'm a bit unsure about what to do with languages.. |
| 11:48:54 | rasher | English is the only language that works out of the box right now |
| 11:49:56 | * | LinusN looks away |
| 11:50:19 | LinusN | : what are you talking about? |
| 11:50:33 | rasher | markun: Do you think that the configure script should autodetect which options are needed for the TTS or something? |
| 11:50:51 | petur | LinusN: lookie here: http://www.rockbox.org/cvs.shtml |
| 11:51:12 | markun | rasher: I don't know how it should be done |
| 11:51:21 | LinusN | : h120 and h140 are identical |
| 11:51:35 | rasher | h120 is missing as well |
| 11:51:54 | petur | and several archosses |
| 11:52:10 | LinusN | in the daily build? |
| 11:52:30 | rasher | markun: Yeah, me neither, really. The only automatic way would be to have a list of which options are needed for the various TTS supported I guess |
| 11:52:41 | rasher | (for each language supported) |
| 11:53:08 | obo | LinusN: Slasheris new server wasn't allowing the master build server to scp the results back - he's changed the firewall since |
| 11:53:22 | markun | rasher: and is it possible to have a different TTS for the selected language and english fallback strings? |
| 11:53:32 | LinusN | obo: oh |
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| 11:54:08 | rasher | markun: I think that'll be problematic. I'm not sure genlang tells us that it's falling back on defaults. But it'd be nice if that was possible for sure. I'll put it on my todo list |
| 11:54:15 | rasher | defaults=english |
| 11:55:27 | * | jhMikeS would find it helpful to target/ a few of the audio_* functions...just a few |
| 11:55:46 | LinusN | obo: so they should be back as soon as someone commits something? |
| 11:55:52 | obo | AFAIK |
| 11:55:56 | LinusN | allright |
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| 11:57:10 | LinusN | the daily build is still there is you can settle for that |
| 11:57:17 | LinusN | s/is/if/ |
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| 11:57:50 | rasher | Or someone could just commit something |
| 11:59:10 | rasher | Hrm, turns out there is a bug with voice building |
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| 12:01:59 | rasher | Fixed.. |
| 12:03:10 | rasher | Let's see if the builds work now |
| 12:04:05 | jhMikeS | it's thanksgiving here in the states today so I guess it's the rare occasion where I get really trashed :) |
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| 12:10:33 | pondlife | linuxstb: Don't suppose you had your FAT disk label disappear a second time, or any other clues on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5217 ? |
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| 12:46:07 | obo | same problem with the builds again :( |
| 12:47:05 | Slasheri | hmm, builds still missing? |
| 12:47:25 | obo | yup - from xen |
| 12:47:44 | Slasheri | how did you check that? |
| 12:48:21 | obo | going through the cvs builds page - checking the build log for the targets against the missing builds at the bottom of the page |
| 12:49:25 | obo | also, the buildmaster log has entries like: "Warning: couldn't get zip from rbclient@xen.ihme.org/build-fmrecorder" |
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| 12:49:43 | Slasheri | oh! |
| 12:49:48 | Slasheri | now i know |
| 12:50:01 | Slasheri | zip package was not installed, argh.. fixed now =) |
| 12:51:25 | obo | hehe |
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| 12:59:13 | luckz | obo! |
| 12:59:16 | luckz | I desire to flame you :D |
| 12:59:33 | * | obo is now worried |
| 13:00 |
| 13:00:09 | luckz | rockscrobbler always causes me slight issues in submittance. either it submits things I did not listen to, or it does not submit things I did listen to,.. and what it always does is somehow breaking submittal of tracks then actually played on my pc, for like 20 minutes |
| 13:00:31 | luckz | which gets me the good old |
| 13:00:31 | luckz | Some tracks you submitted have not been added to your profile for the following reason: |
| 13:00:35 | luckz | Spam protection triggered: You submitted a track dated earlier than your last submission. |
| 13:00:42 | luckz | well |
| 13:00:45 | luckz | the last.fm patch, I guess |
| 13:01:00 | luckz | rockscrobbler the perl cutie isn't really doing much |
| 13:01:07 | luckz | it just.. submits what the log tells it to |
| 13:01:22 | luckz | but I, lazy bum, like to refer to the whole process as rockscrobbling. |
| 13:02:28 | obo | okay... where to begin... I guess checking the .scrobbler.log file |
| 13:03:08 | luckz | I think the scrobbler.log nowadays actually contains files I just started to play in the moment I shut down the X5 or so |
| 13:03:43 | obo | Is that missing tracks? Is the S/L status being set correctly? |
| 13:03:58 | luckz | the S/L status is, I assume, being set wrongly for some tracks |
| 13:04:09 | obo | okay... the second version of the patch here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6213 |
| 13:04:24 | obo | will help with the S/L status for the last track |
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| 13:04:57 | luckz | so that was a known issue? |
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| 13:05:09 | obo | only for the last track... |
| 13:05:20 | obo | there shouldn't be any problems with S/L status for other tracks. |
| 13:05:43 | luckz | is that in any binary builds? |
| 13:05:52 | obo | The other known issue is missing first tracks when resuming, or from new playlists |
| 13:05:58 | obo | nope, just as a patch |
| 13:06:23 | obo | I'm going to need the help of a playback guru to fix the first track problem. |
| 13:11:40 | petur | pondlife: No idea how to repro the missing disklabel. Knowing that would give the solution too I think. I've once checked the fat code but only found another unrelated bug. I actually started looking at that code again yesterday but real life aborted it as usual. |
| 13:11:57 | luckz | mh, single-click enqueue sounds nice. |
| 13:15:42 | pondlife | petur: Those mystery 3.0-bugs bug me. |
| 13:16:05 | pondlife | We know about the rewind at track end and bootloader bugs, but not the other 2. |
| 13:17:09 | petur | I've got a commecial fat implementation at home to verify our code against, but the past two weeks have been very busy :/ |
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| 13:18:16 | pondlife | It could be that it has been fixed, or it's actually a bug in something else - Windows/iTunes...? |
| 13:18:38 | obo | pondlife: any hints on where to look for this problem? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5495#comment11698 |
| 13:19:43 | pondlife | obo: Not really, I'd see if I could repro it in the simulator I think, then put extra logfs in the track buffer/unbuffer code. |
| 13:19:56 | pondlife | This is the unbuffer callback, right? |
| 13:20:18 | LinusN | one question: is the audio code supposed to send a trackchange event when starting a track? |
| 13:20:29 | obo | no, it's the track_changed callback |
| 13:20:48 | luckz | heh |
| 13:20:57 | luckz | obo: I just noticed I did not set my X5 to wintar time :D |
| 13:21:01 | pondlife | I'm amazed how resume on startup is so problematic - it should just be the same as a simulated press of the play button once we've booted, but it seems to be more complicated. |
| 13:21:17 | pondlife | i.e. it's a UI thing, not a playback thing |
| 13:21:18 | luckz | maybe I should just keep it constant and force time offset in perl |
| 13:22:19 | obo | LinusN: I have no idea - could I get away with changing the way that callback works, since the scrobbler code is currently the only thing that uses it? |
| 13:22:43 | pondlife | The buffering code in playback is busted at the moment if the track buffer wraps. Either play an album with lots of short/mono/low bitrate tracks, or make a build with MAX_TRACK set to 3 or 4. Things start to go very screwy. |
| 13:23:07 | LinusN | we should first define what the track_changed event is supposed to mean |
| 13:23:09 | pondlife | e.g. wrong ID3 info displayed, buffering runs forever (playback continues, hard disk never stops) |
| 13:23:21 | LinusN | pondlife: wonderful |
| 13:24:09 | pondlife | Like I said, all developers should run with #define MAX_TRACK 4 and use the device :( |
| 13:24:31 | pondlife | It's probably unrelated to the callback bugs, but maybe .... |
| 13:24:54 | pondlife | One day I'll have time to get back in there, but that day is not today. |
| 13:25:41 | LinusN | again: is the playback code supposed to call the calback when starting the first track, or only when changing track? |
| 13:27:36 | Slasheri | that callback was originally meant to be called when track is changed, but i am not sure how it works now |
| 13:28:49 | Slasheri | but track_buffer callback should be called always when new tracks are loaded to the buffer |
| 13:30:26 | LinusN | so i guess the code works as intended, but we might have to change it to accomodate the scrobbler functionality |
| 13:31:06 | obo | or add a new callback/function just for first tracks? |
| 13:32:23 | LinusN | well, it should be quite simple to redefine the meaning of the callback |
| 13:32:30 | * | obo could do with a archos so he can see if those act in the same way |
| 13:32:54 | LinusN | track_start or something |
| 13:33:30 | LinusN | the transition from no track to first track could be considered a track change as well |
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| 13:34:01 | obo | what else is the track_changed bool in playback.c tied into? |
| 13:34:01 | robfitz | case 12: s = "Additional Driver, Charge"; break; |
| 13:35:28 | Slasheri | obo: it's used only for updating the wps |
| 13:36:05 | obo | completely separate from the callback? |
| 13:36:29 | Slasheri | well, callback should set the flag to true |
| 13:36:29 | LinusN | yes |
| 13:37:38 | LinusN | the callback is used by the runtime database |
| 13:37:58 | obo | which isn't compiled anymore? (the one from database.c) |
| 13:38:05 | LinusN | hmm, does that mean that you can't use the runtime db and scrobble at the same time? |
| 13:38:09 | Slasheri | runtime db uses only buffer and unbuffer event callbacks |
| 13:38:49 | LinusN | audio_set_track_changed_event(&rundb_track_change); |
| 13:39:04 | Slasheri | hmm, that is obsolote then |
| 13:39:06 | obo | database.c isn't in apps/SOURCES |
| 13:39:15 | LinusN | true |
| 13:39:31 | jhMikeS | always that durn playback.c |
| 13:39:40 | Slasheri | new runtime db is in tagtree.c |
| 13:39:53 | LinusN | i won't mind adding a callback call when starting playback too |
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| 13:53:52 | LinusN | is he for real? :-) |
| 13:53:58 | LinusN | price less |
| 13:54:20 | LinusN | Genre9mp3: time for you to update GoldenQuotes |
| 13:54:32 | LinusN | "I got rockbox because i expect more out of them, and i have a right to expect more" |
| 13:54:36 | obo | "i have a right to expect more" |
| 13:54:41 | LinusN | :-) |
| 13:54:41 | Genre9mp3 | "Now make me proud and make these updates i ask for done ASAP" << how about this? |
| 13:54:51 | obo | both, I should think :) |
| 13:54:58 | Genre9mp3 | There are tons of golden quotes in there! |
| 13:55:13 | Bagder | "i have a right to expect more" |
| 13:55:29 | * | Bagder sends out his team of hit-men |
| 13:55:36 | Genre9mp3 | haha |
| 13:55:49 | bluebrother | "include pacman rom with release" |
| 13:55:54 | bluebrother | LOL |
| 13:56:35 | markun | LinusN: he refuses to use rockbox if we don't add radio support!! http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=48632 |
| 13:56:42 | Genre9mp3 | ohoh... our master is dissapointed... "...by tommorow or even this weekend would be great, but im sick of lollydolling around on this site, waiting for a good release." |
| 13:56:49 | petur | "Now make me proud and make these updates i ask for done ASAP, by tommorow or even this weekend would be great,..." |
| 13:57:01 | bluebrother | he _refuses_ to use Rockbox? Great :) |
| 13:57:16 | rasher | markun: I think we must please this man at once. We can't risk losing him! |
| 13:57:30 | Genre9mp3 | he is a Quote Goldmine! ;) |
| 13:57:48 | bluebrother | Genre9mp3: someone should tell him that ;-) |
| 13:57:54 | markun | "Are you guys just haters against Iriver software that you sacrifice features just to have something that looks a little different and in my opinion worse on your machine." |
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| 13:58:12 | rasher | markun: No way he said that. |
| 13:58:18 | rasher | I refuse to believe it. |
| 13:58:26 | markun | :) |
| 13:58:34 | * | bluebrother goes looking if there is something like the "Merkbefreiung" in english |
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| 14:00:00 | rasher | So anything happening on the wma front? |
| 14:00:27 | markun | It keeps getting better "...why release something so garbadge." |
| 14:00:33 | jhMikeS | "...and i have a right to expect more..." ?!?!?!?! |
| 14:00:54 | jhMikeS | like it's an entitlement :\ |
| 14:01:02 | rasher | "Get a brain and stop saying people are whining when they are simply asking where certain features are from the real product." |
| 14:01:11 | bluebrother | maybe we should put a "these are no releases!" on the daily page. Big red blinking letters ... |
| 14:01:22 | rasher | Nah, don't bother |
| 14:01:22 | bluebrother | just for guys like him |
| 14:01:25 | rasher | Most people get it. |
| 14:01:30 | bluebrother | hehe, indeed. |
| 14:01:59 | rasher | No reason to ugly up the pages and add a disconcerting disclaimer just for the occasional dork. |
| 14:02:04 | markun | bluebrother: he has an answer for that too.. "Wait for the real release, this release or "Up dating product" as the makers like to say cause their too good for it to be called just a release like other real makers make of it." |
| 14:02:05 | jhMikeS | shops at Kroger too, maybe I'll see 'im :) |
| 14:02:10 | Genre9mp3 | GoldenQuotes updated... |
| 14:02:20 | bluebrother | I wasn't too serious about that red letters ;-) |
| 14:03:42 | bluebrother | too bad, there doesn't seem to be an english equivalent to a Merkbefreiung |
| 14:03:49 | markun | Genre9mp3: what, you quoted him only 2 times? :) |
| 14:04:10 | Genre9mp3 | markun: feel free to add more! :) |
| 14:04:38 | LinusN | nah, he doesn't deserve it |
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| 14:05:11 | rasher | bluebrother: What does it mean? I see Merk, and befreiung, but I cannot make any sense of it. |
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| 14:06:55 | bluebrother | it's a thing from the german usenet. You get a release ("Befreiung") from noticing ("merken") anything for a specified time |
| 14:07:53 | bluebrother | it's designed like those official authorithy letters |
| 14:08:02 | markun | rasher: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkbefreiung |
| 14:08:19 | rasher | Ah, I was reading Merk as in mark |
| 14:09:58 | bluebrother | "A Merkbefreiung is a fictive document that releases the recepient from the usually assumed duty to notice something or remember earlier parts of the discussion |
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| 14:14:10 | webguest47 | hello |
| 14:14:29 | webguest47 | dont manage to build for sansa |
| 14:15:02 | webguest47 | could someone provide me the zip build ? |
| 14:22:06 | markun | webguest47: I could try to buils it, but is rockbox even working on the sansa yet? |
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| 14:24:08 | Genre9mp3 | just to quote dan_a about the Sansa port status |
| 14:24:12 | webguest47 | markun: yes, it works partially |
| 14:24:16 | Genre9mp3 | "you can build Rockbox and boot it, and there is a read/write driver for the disk. At the moment, there are many things missing so it is suitable for people able to help with development, but not for people just wanting to try it out." |
| 14:24:39 | webguest47 | i dont want to try it by participate |
| 14:24:51 | webguest47 | dan_a gave me a previaous build |
| 14:25:09 | webguest47 | "but participate" |
| 14:25:20 | markun | webguest47: where do you get stuck when building rockbox? |
| 14:26:13 | webguest47 | it gives errors about ")" with gnu-elf-arm |
| 14:27:00 | webguest47 | with ubuntu, i added binary from gnuarm.org |
| 14:27:46 | markun | webguest47: try tools/rockboxdev.sh to compile your own compiler |
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| 14:28:13 | markun | If you want to participate you need a working compiler anyway |
| 14:34:34 | webguest47 | markun: Thanks, didnt test that |
| 14:37:28 | webguest47 | markun: wow, too easy ! |
| 14:38:28 | webguest47 | excuse me but : how to make PATH include ? |
| 14:40:18 | JdGordon | 40mi late.. rofl at the MR post |
| 14:44:32 | markun | webguest47: it might be in ~/.bashrc |
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| 14:45:52 | webguest47 | markun: big thanks |
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| 14:52:38 | amiconn | There's still a ton of cvs builds missing, even after the rebuild due to rasher's commit |
| 14:52:42 | amiconn | Slasheri !! |
| 14:53:10 | obo | amiconn: he was missing zip - there hasn't been a commit since that was installed |
| 14:53:30 | JdGordon | haha.. was it Slasheri's new comp stuffing everything up? |
| 14:55:01 | LinusN | yup |
| 14:55:16 | * | amiconn wonders why people don't test... |
| 14:55:30 | amiconn | 'make zip' should have thrown an error on this box |
| 14:55:50 | Genre9mp3 | on a side notice... could we make the daily/cvs build pages a bit prettier by using the svgs that we use in the manuals? |
| 14:57:18 | Genre9mp3 | well... maybe jpgs made out of the svgs |
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| 15:03:44 | rasher | That'd probably look nicer |
| 15:04:08 | rasher | Shame you can't reliably use transparent pngs |
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| 15:11:47 | Genre9mp3 | rasher: You mean because of different browsers? |
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| 15:11:56 | Genre9mp3 | (about the transparent pngs) |
| 15:12:08 | rasher | Genre9mp3: More specifically, because of IE |
| 15:12:23 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 15:12:56 | Genre9mp3 | shame indeed |
| 15:13:28 | Genre9mp3 | a blue-ish background would do the trick |
| 15:14:21 | bluebrother | actual IE can handle 1bit transparency in pngs in most cases |
| 15:14:51 | bluebrother | I just would ignore it looking crap for users with broken browsers |
| 15:14:52 | rasher | Yeah, but it's not easy to create 1-bit transparent pngs from vector sources |
| 15:15:40 | rasher | I suppose the best option is to create an image with a rockbox-blue background |
| 15:15:41 | bluebrother | hmm. Isn't it possible converting the vector graphic to png, and then convert that to 1bit alpha using ImageMagick? |
| 15:16:32 | Bagder | sounds likely |
| 15:16:53 | rasher | Probably, but it's likely to look awful |
| 15:17:08 | Bagder | yeah |
| 15:17:32 | rasher | Either go for alpha-transparent pngs and ignore IE, or render against a blue background |
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| 15:21:51 | jhMikeS | you have to do transparent png differently on IE but it can work |
| 15:22:30 | * | bluebrother hates IE |
| 15:22:59 | rasher | jhMikeS: That's a horrible hack at best |
| 15:23:00 | bluebrother | especially because it is broken in that many ways |
| 15:23:27 | bluebrother | you could use gif ;-) |
| 15:23:41 | rasher | Well, everything gif can do, png can do (in IE as well) |
| 15:23:59 | rasher | Not animation, obviuosly |
| 15:24:27 | bluebrother | does transparency work that flawlessly with IE than with gif? |
| 15:24:45 | bluebrother | haven't used gif for ages, but I mostly don't care about IE |
| 15:25:04 | rasher | I don't think there are any important hiccups with 1-bit transparency |
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| 15:26:31 | rasher | Guess I was wrong. |
| 15:27:31 | bluebrother | bbl |
| 15:27:57 | jhMikeS | rasher: did they improve the situation in ie7? i haven't checked. |
| 15:28:32 | rasher | No idea |
| 15:29:15 | rasher | And it looks like 1-bit is broken as well in many situations. Not quite sure what it means, but I've managed to create working 1-bit transparent pngs |
| 15:29:30 | jhMikeS | rasher: yup, just checked it |
| 15:29:53 | jhMikeS | http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/pngtrans/ |
| 15:31:20 | rasher | And here http://www.schaik.com/pngsuite/pngsuite_trn_png.html |
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| 15:32:25 | jhMikeS | they look ok here |
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| 15:32:55 | rasher | Not in ie6 |
| 15:33:14 | petur | nope, it sucks in IE6 |
| 15:33:16 | rasher | And that's simple 1-bit transparency |
| 15:33:44 | rasher | I wonder how it looks if you force the IE trick |
| 15:33:54 | jhMikeS | ie7 is fixed apparently |
| 15:34:57 | n1s | anyone with a h300 here? |
| 15:35:05 | petur | yes |
| 15:35:40 | n1s | petur what does your battery percentage show after a full charge? |
| 15:36:05 | n1s | mine shows 91% after the semi-recent changes to power management. |
| 15:36:06 | jhMikeS | rasher: ie trick. the image filter works. i have a start page on my computer that uses it. |
| 15:36:06 | petur | sometimes 100%, sometimes a little less |
| 15:36:36 | n1s | petur, what is the max voltage you get? |
| 15:37:15 | petur | n1s: haven't actually monitorred that and it's not full now (and no charger with me here) |
| 15:37:57 | n1s | petur, ok just trying to figure out if my battery has aged that much or if the calibration is off. |
| 15:38:30 | petur | sorry, I don't look at it so closely... |
| 15:38:57 | rasher | jhMikeS: Yeah, I was wondering how it'd look if applied to all of the pngs on the test-page. To see how complete *that* implementation is |
| 15:40:11 | petur | n1s: currently at 4.05V - 87% |
| 15:40:52 | jhMikeS | i could try it out but it does work with just a normal 24+8 bit image |
| 15:44:24 | jhMikeS | were you planning on using 64 bit RGBA? ;) |
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| 15:54:43 | rasher | IE still fails a bunch of tests, even when using the AlphaImageLoader hack. |
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| 16:02:11 | jhMikeS | As long as it doesn't fail in the needed ways |
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| 17:32:42 | chaebi | hi, I've got a problem. I' m trying to access the microphone of my x5 with rockbox. Recently, there was some recording functionality added to the plugin api. I tried to use it, but I hardly had any success. I just don't get any data. I wonder if there is anything special I should know? I wonder if you could help me? |
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| 17:49:35 | jhMikeS | chaebi: mine works fine but the plugin api doesn't have any working audio gain control yet. should change real soon. |
| 17:51:06 | jhMikeS | chaebi: can pastbin an example of using the functions real quick. I just got to changing some things cause I wasn't quite happy with it and it was missing the gain control. |
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| 18:22:30 | Nimdae | happy thanksgiving, if you're american :P |
| 18:23:04 | Nimdae | and i am thankful for rockbox :) |
| 18:26:34 | jhMikeS | Nimdae: thanks. and same about rb |
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| 18:41:01 | Gnelik | HI! |
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| 18:55:45 | Gnelik | Hi Dan! |
| 18:55:55 | dan_a | Hello |
| 18:55:59 | Gnelik | How are you?? |
| 18:56:22 | dan_a | I'm well. Frustrated that I can't make the bootloader work properly! |
| 18:56:47 | Gnelik | What is the problem? |
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| 18:57:56 | dan_a | Using the H10 bootloader as a start, I can boot the original firmware, but it doesn't work properly. Some bits hang if you plug the USB in, and it doesn't play music |
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| 19:03:09 | dan_a | Gnelik: Have you seen the end of the CREDITS file? |
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| 19:05:02 | Gnelik | Yep |
| 19:05:10 | Gnelik | Thanks %) |
| 19:05:29 | Gnelik | But i difnt do to much |
| 19:05:34 | Gnelik | *didnt |
| 19:06:55 | Gnelik | dan_a: Any progress with other parts like buttons and so on? |
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| 19:07:58 | dan_a | Gnelik: No. I figured out how to see if the scrollwheel is attached to the GPIO, though, so I might try that when I have some spare time |
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| 19:09:21 | Gnelik | dan_a: I cant understand why i saw GPIO changing one time but can't reproduce it |
| 19:10:19 | Gnelik | When scrooling the whell |
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| 19:18:02 | Gnelik | dan_a:When you will finish the bootloader could we use dualboot? |
| 19:19:20 | dan_a | That's the whole point. I didn't want to have to change the firmware to copy a new .rockbox folder across, and then change again to test it |
| 19:19:49 | Gnelik | Yep it's a problem |
| 19:19:53 | Gnelik | :) |
| 19:21:50 | amiconn | Shouldn't that be possible without dual-boot, i.e. with a rockbox bootloader that just boots rockbox? |
| 19:22:36 | dan_a | amiconn: Not until we know how to use the USB. Recovery mode only writes .mi4 files to the special recovery partition |
| 19:23:00 | amiconn | eurgh |
| 19:23:15 | dan_a | I know |
| 19:23:16 | amiconn | Do the .mi4 files get flashed? |
| 19:23:33 | dan_a | They do. |
| 19:23:44 | amiconn | The ipod does at least have a full featured disk mode |
| 19:23:55 | amiconn | (apart from the slowness on nano and 5g) |
| 19:24:44 | dan_a | I think the H10 is similar to the iPod - you can boot into a UMS mode independent of the firmware |
| 19:25:10 | amiconn | Perhaps. I dunno whether the H10 has 2 modes |
| 19:25:46 | amiconn | The ipod has 2 disk modes, emergency disk mode in the apple bootloader and another one in the main firmware |
| 19:26:14 | amiconn | On the older ipods both modes seem to be identical in speed; on nano and 5g they are not |
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| 19:29:33 | dan_a | Anyway, unless someone works out how to drive the USB, or I get a copy of "Understanding Disassembled Firmware For Dummies" for Christmas, I need to work out what's going wrong in the bootloader. |
| 19:30:44 | amiconn | I'm almost sure USB is implemented in software on the PP5024 the same way as on the other PP targets |
| 19:31:00 | amiconn | So in order to do our own USB, we actually need 2 things. |
| 19:31:16 | amiconn | (1) we need to know how the USB port hardware can be accessed |
| 19:31:41 | amiconn | (2) we need an USB stack (device side), implementing the mass storage class |
| 19:33:11 | * | amiconn prefers the archos and the coldfire-based targets with their dedicated usb-ata bridge |
| 19:33:36 | preglow | god, yes |
| 19:35:21 | rasher | Now if those two are achieved, and someone implements usb-sound, that'd be the moment where the ipod way gets interesting |
| 19:35:33 | rasher | PP way, I guess. |
| 19:35:57 | amiconn | 2 of the coldfire targets also have usb host capability |
| 19:36:22 | rasher | Can they act as slave as well? |
| 19:36:52 | amiconn | The H300 usbotg controller can act both as host and slave |
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| 19:37:27 | amiconn | But there would be no point in acting as a slave, as it only achieves full speed, not high speed |
| 19:37:27 | Gnelik41 | dan_a: I figured out how to see if USB is connected |
| 19:37:42 | rasher | amiconn: You could act as a usb sound card |
| 19:37:53 | amiconn | The X5 usbotg controller docs aren't publicly available |
| 19:37:57 | rasher | (I've seen requests for that on the tracker, if I'm reading things right) |
| 19:38:12 | rasher | In conclusion: Many hardware manufacturers suck |
| 19:38:37 | amiconn | H300: Philips ISP1362 - docs available |
| 19:38:47 | dan_a | Gnelik41: It's one of the GPIO pins, isn't it? |
| 19:39:02 | Gnelik41 | GPIO_B |
| 19:39:08 | Gnelik41 | FF inserted |
| 19:39:12 | Gnelik41 | EF out |
| 19:39:20 | amiconn | X5: ALi M5636 - secret docs |
| 19:39:44 | rasher | I really wonder what on earth the point of keeping docs secret is. |
| 19:40:08 | rasher | It seems childish. |
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| 19:41:01 | dan_a | rasher: It gives people hacking the device a bigger sense of acheivement when something - anything - works |
| 19:41:19 | amiconn | ahaha |
| 19:41:30 | dan_a | PP keep their docs secret to make me happier |
| 19:41:59 | Gnelik41 | :))) |
| 19:42:02 | preglow | hahah |
| 19:42:47 | Gnelik41 | Do they give Docs t ochip byers? Maybe we will buy one? |
| 19:43:13 | Gnelik41 | :) |
| 19:43:34 | amiconn | I guess you'd have to buy 1000+ in order to get the docs |
| 19:43:47 | amiconn | Even then you'll have to sign an NDA |
| 19:44:45 | Genre9mp3 | dan_a: nice excuse for hiding your masochism :P |
| 19:45:16 | Gnelik41 | hahhah |
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| 19:45:17 | dan_a | The impression I get is that they give out a software development kit to the device makers, so the docs would just say "To use the USB port, call the function use_usb()"... which is no good to us. |
| 19:45:39 | dan_a | Genre9mp3: hehehe |
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| 19:46:09 | Gnelik41 | dan_a: but reversment of one libluary is esier that the whole firmware |
| 19:46:13 | Gnelik41 | ??? |
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| 19:51:01 | dan_a | Gnelik41: To people who can do reverse engineering, probably! |
| 19:51:22 | Gnelik41 | dan_a but not for us |
| 19:51:24 | Gnelik41 | %) |
| 19:52:13 | dan_a | To me, translating a book in a foreign language and translating a chapter of a book in a foreign language are equally as difficult! |
| 19:52:28 | amiconn | If that is indeed the case, it should be possible to spot common parts between ipod, h10 and sansa firmware |
| 19:52:37 | amiconn | These would be the parts that come with the sdk |
| 19:52:43 | Gnelik41 | dan_a:Is there more than 16 GPIOS? |
| 19:52:56 | Gnelik41 | In sansa |
| 19:53:52 | Gnelik41 | dan_a: I think backlight is some of GPIOS too |
| 19:53:55 | dan_a | Gnelik41: Look in firmware/export/pp5020.h - those are the ones we know about so far. |
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| 19:59:40 | Gnelik41 | dan_a: if i'l send different signals to GPIOS could it kill something? |
| 19:59:50 | * | dan_a does the happy dance of the right setting tweaked |
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| 20:00:30 | Gnelik41 | dan_a THUMB_UP |
| 20:00:32 | habana | hi all ! |
| 20:00:32 | Gnelik41 | ! |
| 20:01:07 | dan_a | Gnelik41: Possibly... but I've not killed anything yet. If you send signals towards the GPIOs used in the LCD controller, using the pins that are enabled for output, you should be safe (I think!) |
| 20:01:20 | habana | i dont know yet why but CONGRAT dan_a ! |
| 20:01:23 | dan_a | I've got dual boot! |
| 20:01:38 | Gnelik41 | dan_a:Give me the source %) |
| 20:01:42 | Gnelik41 | To try |
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| 20:02:40 | habana | For those who believe in oe God, please pray for a sucessful make compiler under linux, i NEED to see evolutions on my sansa. |
| 20:02:44 | Gnelik41 | paste at pastebin |
| 20:02:57 | habana | I've got dual boot! clap clap :) |
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| 20:04:43 | habana | tools/rockboxdev.sh is the best way to obtain gnu-arm on linux ? |
| 20:04:55 | Gnelik41 | The best |
| 20:05:02 | Gnelik41 | And the esyest |
| 20:05:06 | dan_a | Gnelik41: There's some unrelated changes in here too. http://pastebin.ca/256086 |
| 20:05:16 | habana | l'etsa go ! |
| 20:06:25 | habana | thanks |
| 20:06:36 | dan_a | You need to make /.rockbox/OF.bin, using "mi4code decrypt -s <original firmware.mi4> OF.bin" and you need to make a normal build and put rockbox.e200 in / on the Sansa |
| 20:07:02 | dan_a | Then you hold left to boot to OF. |
| 20:08:13 | dan_a | I've not worked out why I'm getting the checksum on rockbox.e200 wrong, and I need to play around with the line that disables the cache to make it boot Rockbox quicker before I commit it. |
| 20:09:19 | amiconn | You're flushing the cache after loading rockbox.e200? |
| 20:11:12 | dan_a | amiconn: No... disabling it before loading either firmware. Rockbox boots (quicker) with it enabled, OF half works. Well, I *think* I'm disabling it |
| 20:11:54 | Gnelik41 | patch isnt working |
| 20:12:28 | Gnelik41 | Waiting for CVS |
| 20:12:32 | Lear | Now what? I have a 32 kHz file and a 48 kHz file and both play too slow. Wonder what's wrong with my new code... :) |
| 20:12:57 | preglow | hmm |
| 20:12:59 | preglow | metadata weirdness |
| 20:13:00 | preglow | ? |
| 20:13:16 | Lear | Yes, but the ID3 viewer shows the right value... |
| 20:13:22 | preglow | well, nice |
| 20:13:28 | dan_a | I need to do some Real Life-ing this evening, but I'll get the bootloader in tonight. |
| 20:13:41 | dan_a | Step 2 will be to make it boot .mi4 files. |
| 20:14:10 | amiconn | RoLo for OF? |
| 20:14:29 | Lear | And the same files work just fine in the simulator. |
| 20:14:32 | Genre9mp3 | OFLo |
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| 20:14:43 | dan_a | amiconn: If possible |
| 20:15:09 | amiconn | That's what RoLo can do on archos - load both rockbox and OF, the same way as the ROM OF can load another one from disk |
| 20:15:47 | rasher | It'd be nice if I could do that on h120 |
| 20:15:59 | dan_a | I'll make it happen on Sansa then. And then see if I can make it work on iPod. |
| 20:16:12 | amiconn | What would you need the OF on H1x0 for? |
| 20:16:36 | rasher | amiconn: For the occasional time when I mess up Rockbox (such as forget to update codecs) |
| 20:16:39 | amiconn | I can understand that one wants OF on H300 or X5 (for usbotg) |
| 20:16:41 | dan_a | If any of the H10 guys are interested, lines 699-704 on that pastebin were the key to making the OF boot |
| 20:17:17 | rasher | Or I load a broken build just before leaving home |
| 20:17:42 | rasher | But yeah, it's not as good reasons as on h300 and x5 |
| 20:17:43 | amiconn | Then don't do that... |
| 20:17:46 | rasher | I try! |
| 20:18:05 | amiconn | If the build is broken, it will likely not have a working RoLo either... |
| 20:18:19 | amiconn | ...and then there already is dual boot in the bootloader |
| 20:18:37 | rasher | Yeah, but then I would have flashed Rockbox |
| 20:18:59 | rasher | Oh well |
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| 20:20:07 | habana | if i dont want to double boot for the moment, i just have to not add latest dan_a's patch ? |
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| 20:36:58 | webguest01 | hi, what are those red builds for X5, Mike Sevakis? |
| 20:37:40 | jhMikeS | don't think it's me. the files were included in the update and SOURCES and it builds fine here |
| 20:37:57 | webguest01 | then is it a build server thingy? |
| 20:38:03 | jhMikeS | most likely |
| 20:38:33 | webguest01 | then I can dowload the cvs build w/o problems? |
| 20:38:54 | jhMikeS | not a build with errors, no |
| 20:39:06 | webguest01 | oh :( |
| 20:39:21 | jhMikeS | the source should be fine if that's what you mean |
| 20:39:33 | amiconn | The errors occured on 2 different build servers |
| 20:39:47 | obo | weird - now linuxstbs server has the same "Warning: couldn't get zip" message, and missing iriver builds |
| 20:39:51 | webguest01 | not the source (don't have dev env here), just the build |
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| 20:40:19 | amiconn | Most were on linuxstb.rockbox.org, but one on xen.ihme.org |
| 20:40:41 | amiconn | obo: Those warnings are due to the failed build |
| 20:40:42 | jhMikeS | has to be a server, the files were added and are in SOURCES. I can compile all that |
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| 20:41:03 | amiconn | Bagder: around? |
| 20:41:04 | obo | amiconn: yup - me being stupid - sorry |
| 20:41:32 | jhMikeS | I can do a small update to a comment and initiate another build |
| 20:41:43 | webguest01 | please do |
| 20:41:51 | Lear | I'm about to commit something though. |
| 20:42:05 | jhMikeS | k |
| 20:42:05 | Lear | Give me ten minutes or so. |
| 20:42:58 | webguest01 | Lear: what will your commit for? |
| 20:43:30 | jhMikeS | tell me, cause I still wanna correct the tiny oversight :) |
| 20:43:40 | Lear | Why not wait and see? :p |
| 20:44:04 | jhMikeS | aright, just thinking I could combine it with yours |
| 20:44:28 | Lear | If you really want to commit, just do it... |
| 20:45:15 | jhMikeS | mostly to just see if it goes differently :\ |
| 20:47:18 | Lear | Ok, checked in. |
| 20:48:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-11-23%2019:47:25.html Seems like th ebuild system ssplit your commit in 2 |
| 20:48:53 | amiconn | Happens from time to time, and it's annyoing... |
| 20:48:54 | jhMikeS | again? happening alot lately |
| 20:50:10 | jhMikeS | use to hang on me now it split my stuff...hrm |
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| 20:51:56 | jhMikeS | now I can't recall if the last split I got involved new files or not |
| 20:53:46 | webguest01 | red builds fixed |
| 20:54:10 | petur | \o/ |
| 20:54:15 | jhMikeS | :) |
| 20:55:11 | jhMikeS | what changed lately that would make splitting more likely? |
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| 20:57:39 | jhMikeS | probably nothing much, I'm just rolling snakeyes more :P |
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| 20:59:10 | * | preglow chants SVN! |
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| 21:04:32 | * | lostlogic chants git |
| 21:04:41 | jhMikeS | preglow: there's no double setting of the source now |
| 21:04:55 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 21:06:33 | patrickvox | hi guys |
| 21:06:52 | patrickvox | anyone able to view .lit or .pdf files on IPOD-5G ? |
| 21:07:51 | amiconn | Iceweasel and Icedove, what a naming crap |
| 21:08:50 | rasher | I don't see it. |
| 21:08:58 | rasher | Firefox and Thunderbird are better? |
| 21:10:24 | amiconn | They are well known |
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| 21:13:48 | lostlogic | my firefox calls itself Bon Echo, not sure where that came from |
| 21:14:15 | Lear | I think you're using an old alpha, or possibly beta... |
| 21:14:27 | Lear | It was a code name during development. |
| 21:14:29 | rasher | amiconn: But debian is not allowed to use them under acceptablle terms. |
| 21:14:40 | rasher | I think Iceweasel and Icedove are better names |
| 21:14:44 | lostlogic | ah, then Gentoo's just chosen to dodge the patent thing by using the development names |
| 21:14:46 | rasher | It makes it more clear that they are related |
| 21:15:11 | preglow | jhMikeS: cool |
| 21:15:22 | Lear | Patent? Trademark, you mean (or possibly copyright)... |
| 21:15:54 | amiconn | Other linux distros don't seem to have problems with the firefox name |
| 21:16:11 | rasher | This is because MoCo is a bunch of whiny bitches |
| 21:16:57 | jhMikeS | preglow: and you can set the input gain too. doesn't work through sound_set it turns out |
| 21:16:58 | rasher | And Debian is not willing to compromise their principles to meet the demands from them |
| 21:17:10 | rasher | But this is severely OT, and Ill shut up now. |
| 21:17:51 | preglow | amiconn: other distros don't take their main principles so seriously as debian |
| 21:17:59 | markun | patrickvox: no |
| 21:18:26 | preglow | firefox/tbird really can't be handled as free software as long as those logos/names are in use, so debian fixed it |
| 21:18:37 | preglow | pretty much agree completely with it as well, mozilla are acting up |
| 21:19:38 | amiconn | Ahahahaha |
| 21:20:19 | amiconn | After upgrading from firefox 1.5 to iceweasel 2.0, the first start shows the page "You've updated to the latest version of Firefox" |
| 21:20:21 | amiconn | rofl |
| 21:20:32 | preglow | obviously a thorough patch, haha |
| 21:21:44 | rasher | Yeah, someone went grepping and failed to pick up on the fact that it'll visit that url |
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| 21:23:23 | patrickvox | markun: do you think that will be in future features ? |
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| 21:25:05 | markun | patrickvox: they are not planned, but who knows, maybe some day someone will write a viewer for them. |
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| 21:25:18 | patrickvox | ahh, like a 'plugin' ? |
| 21:25:21 | markun | yes |
| 21:26:05 | patrickvox | ahh ok |
| 21:26:21 | patrickvox | i was so h appy to switch over from the itune to rockbox |
| 21:26:27 | patrickvox | i hated the database on itune |
| 21:26:33 | patrickvox | takes forever to copy files |
| 21:26:43 | patrickvox | whereas on rockbox, i can just copy my folders of mp3 over and voila, it's done |
| 21:26:54 | markun | patrickvox: can you program a little bit? |
| 21:27:03 | patrickvox | yes, i'm learning php :-) |
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| 21:27:36 | markun | if you want to contribute to rockbox you can learn C after that |
| 21:27:44 | patrickvox | ahh, like gnu-c ? |
| 21:27:58 | patrickvox | i would love to contribute to rockbox |
| 21:28:02 | markun | well, ehh.. just C |
| 21:28:04 | patrickvox | i can learn c in 24 hours |
| 21:28:55 | patrickvox | how good i will be, god knows |
| 21:29:08 | markun | the GNU C compiler doesn't only compile "GNU C" :) |
| 21:29:48 | patrickvox | are you a contributor/developer for rockbox ? |
| 21:30:09 | markun | yes |
| 21:30:35 | patrickvox | that's cool |
| 21:30:38 | patrickvox | you sounds pretty cool |
| 21:30:44 | patrickvox | where are u from |
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| 21:59:03 | kwinchee2 | coz i wanna bum fuk u |
| 21:59:33 | Flavius | hi all |
| 21:59:49 | Flavius | I just intalled rockbox on a 5.5g ipod |
| 21:59:53 | markun | kwinchee2: wrong window? |
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| 22:00:10 | patrickvox | Flavius: did it work ok? i thought 5.5G wont work on rockbox ? |
| 22:00:17 | Flavius | now when I try to play doom it freses at the begining |
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| 22:00:39 | Flavius | yes, it worked, but the apple os is gone now and can't be booted |
| 22:00:53 | Flavius | and it only works for the 30G one |
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| 22:01:13 | Flavius | now, how could I unblock it? |
| 22:01:14 | patrickvox | 30gig is 5G |
| 22:01:20 | patrickvox | 5.5G is the 80gig |
| 22:01:31 | Flavius | nope, mine is 5.5g |
| 22:01:44 | patrickvox | how do you determine if 30gig is 5.5G ? |
| 22:01:57 | patrickvox | the only 5.5G i know is the 80gig version...the 30/60GIG are 5G |
| 22:02:10 | Flavius | according to the Apple site the last 3 letter from the serial nr indicate if you have a 5.5. and I have one |
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| 22:02:25 | patrickvox | ahhh |
| 22:02:27 | Flavius | as far as I know, 5.5 come in 30 and 80g |
| 22:02:39 | patrickvox | ok, that's cool to know, my bad |
| 22:02:58 | Flavius | yeah, I was pretty impressed that it worked. |
| 22:03:09 | Flavius | but now i have a frozen doom :( |
| 22:03:15 | patrickvox | you can adjust it |
| 22:03:18 | patrickvox | let me give u a link |
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| 22:12:14 | Flavius | anyone can help me with a frozen domm on ipod 5.5g? how to "reset" it? |
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| 22:13:47 | obo | Flavius: flicking hold on and off again will bring up the menu in doom - if it's really frozen, you'll need to hold select+menu to reboot |
| 22:15:23 | Flavius | the controls don't respond. but ofter plugging in and out the ipod it started again. thanks! |
| 22:15:36 | Flavius | any ideeas as to why doom freezes? |
| 22:17:22 | preglow | sweet, sweet lord |
| 22:19:13 | Flavius | damned, it's broken again! |
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| 22:20:18 | t0dk01 | scheisse, I need help installing the bootloader on my brothers ipoD |
| 22:21:03 | t0dk01 | ./ipod_fw -g video -o rockboot.bin -i apple_os.bin bootloader-video.bin |
| 22:21:03 | t0dk01 | Generating firmware image compatible with iPod video |
| 22:21:03 | t0dk01 | Cannot open loader image file bootloader-video.bin |
| 22:21:42 | linuxstb_ | Download it. |
| 22:22:01 | t0dk01 | download what, exactly? |
| 22:22:20 | linuxstb_ | The loader image file bootloader-video.bin |
| 22:22:31 | linuxstb_ | The link should be at the start of the install instructions. |
| 22:22:36 | t0dk01 | ah alright |
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| 22:23:43 | t0dk01 | ahh, thanks, thats what I had forgot |
| 22:23:44 | t0dk01 | lol |
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| 22:34:12 | t0dk01 | cool, got it to work |
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| 22:42:35 | d0gmaz | i have an ipod nano v2 there is no rockbox port but is there an good opensource alternative wich does support the v2 nano? |
| 22:42:49 | preglow | no |
| 22:43:00 | preglow | if there were, you would have rockbox for nano v2 by now |
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| 22:43:28 | d0gmaz | damn |
| 22:43:42 | d0gmaz | is it going to be ported? |
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| 22:43:49 | rasher | Probably |
| 22:44:21 | rasher | But it might take a long time |
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| 23:29:01 | * | petur waves a magic wand and hopes the dB versus % mails go away |
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| 23:30:19 | preglow | god, yes |
| 23:30:25 | preglow | how is it possible to generate such an amount of mails over it |
| 23:30:27 | jba | so i didn't know you could concatenate strings in c like this somefunction("string first part" "string second part") |
| 23:30:54 | jba | is that ansi, the specific version that the rockbox dev platform uses? |
| 23:31:01 | Bagder | ansi it is |
| 23:31:08 | Bagder | even pre-ansi iirc |
| 23:31:17 | jba | wow, you lorn something new every day. It was trhowing me off |
| 23:31:27 | jba | it's used mainly with macro's in rockbox, but still |
| 23:32:09 | jba | Bagder, (g before the d?) does it ony work with string literals? |
| 23:32:23 | Bagder | yeps, only strings |
| 23:32:51 | jba | so not char arrays and such, thought so. would have to be a compile time thing |
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| 23:35:27 | preglow | anyone know what kind of aac files rockbox can currently play? |
| 23:35:33 | preglow | obviously, it can't play the ones i've got |
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