| 00:00:06 | amiconn | That's just because the linker doesn't throw an error when the beginning of the last section still fits |
| 00:00:23 | amiconn | ...even if the end is outside the specified area |
| 00:00:40 | amiconn | (a linker bug that has always been there) |
| 00:00:45 | amiconn | Check the build log |
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| 00:00:59 | jhMikeS | that's a pretty bad bug imo |
| 00:01:25 | amiconn | Output is 308 bytes larger than max (233456) |
| 00:01:25 | amiconn | Build firmware file |
| 00:01:25 | amiconn | removing UCL file again, making it a fake one |
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| 00:02:38 | linuxstb | So are any rombox builds still working? |
| 00:03:37 | amiconn | In the beginning of 2006, all archoses could run rombox. For FM and V2 it broke some time in summer, for the V1 it broke in autumn, and for Ondio FM it broke today :( |
| 00:03:54 | amiconn | The only archoses still featuring rockbox now are the Ondio SP and the Player |
| 00:04:25 | * | jhMikeS thinks about unneeded strings again - but what a task - and adding the feature selectivity |
| 00:04:58 | amiconn | The string cleanup should bring back rombox for a while |
| 00:05:29 | jhMikeS | and give it room to grow again, like repotting a plant :) |
| 00:07:05 | amiconn | yes |
| 00:07:12 | jhMikeS | there's got to be some prioritizing of features with rombox no doubt |
| 00:07:52 | amiconn | In fact, if rombox would break because of adding cool new features, and in spite of optimising the code, it would be another thing |
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| 00:08:16 | amiconn | What pisses me off is that many of the recent code size bumps are quite unnecessary |
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| 00:08:41 | jhMikeS | like? |
| 00:09:02 | linuxstb | Maybe the code size of each build should be listed somewhere - so people can see the impact of their commits. |
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| 00:09:48 | Soap | code size primarely affects the archos line, correct? |
| 00:09:59 | amiconn | no |
| 00:10:18 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering where I can trim fat in anything I've done that would affect that or anything else. :\ |
| 00:10:32 | amiconn | It does affect them in a more obvious way because of the hard limits regarding rombox etc, |
| 00:10:42 | Soap | how does it affect the software codec ports? a reduction in buffer size? |
| 00:10:47 | amiconn | but the target with the tightest RAM restrictions is the iFP |
| 00:11:37 | jhMikeS | amiconn: what other commits of recent are bloated is what I mean. I know about the latest. |
| 00:11:49 | amiconn | I think all targets benefit from compact & efficient code |
| 00:12:27 | Soap | I don't think anyone can disagree with that, in theory. |
| 00:12:33 | amiconn | The buffer size is less important on targets with 16MB+ of RAM, but battery runtime also depends on code efficiency |
| 00:13:19 | jhMikeS | I guess for coldfire that means running the stop #2000 as much as possible? |
| 00:14:53 | Soap | so runtime detection of 2048 byte sectors was commited, but runtime detection of 64MB of memory still hasn't. What is holding that back? |
| 00:15:18 | linuxstb | That means completely reorganising how Rockbox uses memory. |
| 00:15:20 | amiconn | The detection isn't the problem. The RAM layout is |
| 00:16:22 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Ideally, threads should be sleeping as often & long as possible, and boosting shouldn't happen too often and only when the power is really needed |
| 00:16:44 | Soap | is the RAM layout discussed on the wiki, or do I need to read the code and plot memory usage on a piece of paper? |
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| 00:17:11 | amiconn | Saving space is often a question of how the function is organised, and what optimisations are applied |
| 00:17:15 | jhMikeS | shouldn't sleep_thread be used in a lot of places instead of yield then? |
| 00:18:00 | linuxstb | Soap: It's currently something like: [Rockbox][...audio buffer...][codec buffer][plugin buffer] - with Rockbox being at the start of RAM and the codec/plugin buffers being at fixed (at compile-time) addresses at the end of RAM. The audio buffer is what's left in the middle. |
| 00:18:09 | amiconn | Remember that I added support for reading 16bit and 4bit BMPs to the bmp loader (those are the features which affect monochrome targets) with practically constant code size on archos? |
| 00:18:31 | amiconn | (+4 byte in total counting my second optimisation) |
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| 00:18:39 | Soap | linuxstb: what does the 64MB patch in the tracker do? Stretch the audio buffer, or split it in two? |
| 00:18:56 | amiconn | Soap: Afaik there is no runtime detection patch |
| 00:19:03 | linuxstb | Soap: The suggestion is to change that to [codec buffer][plugin buffer][Rockbox][...audio buffer...] but no-one has stepped up to do it. |
| 00:19:08 | amiconn | The 64MB patch allows building a special 64MB build |
| 00:19:52 | Soap | I grok that amiconn. I just didn't know if all it needed was runtime detection, or if people were (rightfully) upset with how it placed the memory usage. |
| 00:22:26 | Soap | nevermind, after reading linuxstb's first comment on the tracker it makes sense now. |
| 00:24:55 | jhMikeS | we should be able to sleep threads only up till their next turn to run but that doesn't appear supported. there's always a timeout. |
| 00:25:21 | amiconn | sleep until their next turn doesn't make sense |
| 00:25:29 | amiconn | That would be identical to yield() |
| 00:25:34 | linuxstb | Soap: Only 6 months old... |
| 00:26:00 | Soap | linuxstb: I agree, I asked a silly question in hindsight. |
| 00:26:14 | amiconn | With sleep(0) you can sleep the thread until the end of the current tick |
| 00:26:19 | linuxstb | Soap: No, I meant that after 6 months, no-one has done any more work on it... |
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| 00:29:01 | jhMikeS | yield doesn't seem to put them on the list of inactive processes and execute a stop (or eq) though |
| 00:29:17 | amiconn | Of course not |
| 00:29:48 | amiconn | The scheduler only executes (and can only execute) stop if all threads are sleeping |
| 00:30:06 | jhMikeS | right, but why have to wait a min of .01s ?? |
| 00:30:18 | amiconn | But if a thread already wants to run after one scheduling round, that cannot happen |
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| 00:31:17 | amiconn | Stop halts the cpu until the next interrupt. The only interupt that is guaranteed to happen in regular intervals is the tick. |
| 00:31:43 | jhMikeS | ah so then I guess you have to expect to be out at least 1 tick |
| 00:31:59 | amiconn | Not _at least_, but in the worst case |
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| 00:32:22 | amiconn | As already mentioned, you can do sleep(0); which will sleep th ethread until th eend of the current tick |
| 00:32:43 | amiconn | ..which can be anything between nearly immediately and 10ms |
| 00:32:47 | jhMikeS | I mean, you can't count on being running any sooner |
| 00:33:01 | amiconn | correct |
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| 00:34:05 | amiconn | With th eold scheduler you could do some tricks, dunno whether that's still possible |
| 00:34:36 | jhMikeS | 10ms? could be longer if an lcd update takes place but then so can yield |
| 00:35:06 | jhMikeS | that was a big issue with doing the sound effects |
| 00:35:51 | amiconn | Yes, any thread might delay stuff further |
| 00:36:05 | jhMikeS | but they're boosted and we're cutting it _real_ close for latency |
| 00:36:12 | amiconn | Really time critical stuff requires an isr |
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| 00:42:16 | jhMikeS | that could be a way to go with those. could an interrupt be triggered from the recording handler? |
| 00:43:04 | amiconn | I don't know what you need |
| 00:43:22 | amiconn | In general it is possible to use interrupts from within plugins |
| 00:43:53 | amiconn | Preferably the plugin shouldn't bang the hardware, but rather use functions provided by the core |
| 00:44:20 | amiconn | The grayscale library, video.rock (archos) and metronome.rock use the user timer this way |
| 00:44:22 | jhMikeS | to process the sound as soon as another chunk is available from DMA and not have to wait through a screen update |
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| 00:44:48 | amiconn | Then you probably need to add the ability to register a callback in the recording isr |
| 00:45:34 | jhMikeS | there's already the DMA1 registered callback but audio can't be processed there |
| 00:45:44 | amiconn | Why not? |
| 00:46:19 | jhMikeS | Arent there only 6 samples available in the FIFO? I did try it and it just breaks up. |
| 00:46:44 | amiconn | The DMA interupt is fired at the end of the DMA transfer |
| 00:47:00 | amiconn | ...which is way longer than 6 samples (at least I hope it is) |
| 00:47:09 | jhMikeS | yes. but then you can only process a few samples and have to return |
| 00:47:16 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 00:47:52 | jhMikeS | Processing audio can take longer than the six samples it would seem |
| 00:47:58 | amiconn | You need to set up the new dma first in order to prevent fifo overrun. After that you have quite some time for processing... |
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| 00:49:33 | jhMikeS | it makes no provision for that. it's just like the playback. would need a function for that |
| 00:50:06 | jhMikeS | actually would be pretty simple to set up and no plugin hw banging |
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| 00:53:46 | amiconn | Some plugins even bang the hardware, but this is not encouraged |
| 00:54:25 | amiconn | alpine_cdc is one, and wavplay is another. They hijack interupt vectors. |
| 00:55:08 | jhMikeS | I'm thinking about what to do if the next interrupt comes and it's not done. probably spin lock until the previous one is finished |
| 00:55:15 | amiconn | But then, wavplay is a proof-of-concept preview, and alpine_cdc is a quite specialised plugin |
| 00:55:51 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Shouldn't it be locked automatically, via the interupt priority thing? |
| 00:56:11 | amiconn | (unless the recording interrupt is non-maskable, but why should it?) |
| 00:56:21 | jhMikeS | if it is, then how will the transfer start from the handler? |
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| 00:58:26 | amiconn | The handler can't be called a second time as long as it's executing |
| 00:58:27 | jhMikeS | If we've started another transfer, it will start while still in the handler, and the next interrupt from that transfer will be blocked? ok, then no worries |
| 00:59:08 | amiconn | Interrupts (at this and lower level) are reenabled by the rte instruction |
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| 01:00:04 | amiconn | ...unless it's level 7, then it's non-maskable |
| 01:00:26 | amiconn | But imho we shouldn't use level 7 for anything without strong reason |
| 01:00:34 | jhMikeS | with that, latency can be very low indeed |
| 01:01:33 | amiconn | Slightly more than one DMA block I'd think |
| 01:02:18 | jhMikeS | they're small blocks (128 samples) |
| 01:02:33 | jhMikeS | no real attempt at optimizing those things yet |
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| 01:03:16 | amiconn | Latency might go up to nearly 2* dma_block_size. Depends on how long the calulations take |
| 01:04:37 | jhMikeS | that's ok, it's 5 now, most of it to keep playback clear of the current effect block |
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| 01:10:51 | * | amiconn needs to set up a testing environment for large virtual sectors :/ |
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| 01:12:18 | ani-adom | hi |
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| 01:13:14 | ani-adom | is it possible to know id3 of the next song? |
| 01:13:16 | jhMikeS | doing things that way might even be good for playback on a mixing board style pcm buffer without another thread if the final mix point is powered by the interrupt |
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| 01:19:48 | ani-adom | mmmmmmmm |
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| 01:22:24 | linuxstb | ani-adom: Yes, a WPS can display tags from the next track. |
| 01:23:54 | pixelma | see http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS#Next_Song_Info for more info ... |
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| 01:26:27 | ani-adom | i rad this |
| 01:26:52 | ani-adom | for a few times but still i cant get it. |
| 01:26:55 | ani-adom | read |
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| 01:28:49 | ani-adom | pixelma: i dont see nthing that talks on id3. |
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| 01:30:58 | pixelma | that's related to the tags explained before: for example if you use in your wps code "%ia" to display the artist tag (ID3) of the currently playing song you have to write it "%Ia" to display the artist tag of the next song |
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| 01:33:14 | ani-adom | g. |
| 01:33:44 | ani-adom | :) |
| 01:34:39 | pixelma | JdGordon: morning ... |
| 01:34:44 | JdGordon | hey |
| 01:35:52 | pixelma | about your settings patch (on Ondio) - it seems like nothing gets saved during buffering not even playlist_control |
| 01:36:46 | JdGordon | umm, damn, ok, thanks |
| 01:36:55 | pixelma | had another shutdown when my batteries lost contact |
| 01:37:54 | pixelma | and everything was back like before (volume too) so it should be a general problem |
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| 01:52:20 | pixelma | JdGordon: could it be an Ondio problem only? |
| 01:52:51 | JdGordon | Its possible, its wierd the playlist_control isnt getting saved, because thats sperate code |
| 01:53:00 | JdGordon | is playlist_control getting saved with cvs build? |
| 01:57:58 | pixelma | last one I flashed 26.11. works (I'm not too eager to test the latest...) |
| 01:58:25 | JdGordon | was that before or after the last ata_idle fix? |
| 01:58:33 | * | JdGordon checks logs |
| 01:58:47 | pixelma | the one that caused the loop? |
| 01:59:01 | pixelma | then it was after |
| 01:59:02 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 01:59:31 | pixelma | the fix of course |
| 01:59:50 | JdGordon | ok, i got soime nivestigating todo toda then |
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| 02:07:24 | pixelma | I can rule out that the volume the files are on (MMC or internal memory) has anything to do with it (thought it was worth testing) |
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| 02:13:14 | JdGordon | by playlist_control, you mean the /.rockbox/.playlis_control file right? something is tottaly stuffed than if that isnt righting... tha doesnt use ata_idle_nofity |
| 02:13:44 | pixelma | wait a sec... had an idea (and if this is right then it is my fault) |
| 02:13:51 | JdGordon | :) |
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| 02:17:34 | pixelma | hmm... no - not my fault |
| 02:18:00 | JdGordon | damn, :p |
| 02:18:53 | pixelma | I mean the file in which current playlist and position is saved, just to clarify |
| 02:19:06 | pixelma | (used to resume) |
| 02:19:34 | JdGordon | side noe, I want to replace the current bookmark stuff with that file, so bookmarks work much better |
| 02:19:49 | JdGordon | damn this keyboard is annoying me, sorry for all the typos |
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| 02:19:59 | pixelma | sounds like a plan :) |
| 02:20:09 | JdGordon | yeah, that file shuoldnt have any problems writing to disk |
| 02:20:26 | JdGordon | its goin to be a bit of work tho, because I'm not exactly sure how it works ;p |
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| 02:22:32 | pixelma | all the playlists I created with "insert shuffled" could be bookmarked and I use this possibility more often because the Ondio doesn't have a quickscreen where I could set "playback" to shuffle easily |
| 02:22:39 | pixelma | couldn't |
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| 02:24:27 | pixelma | (if that made any sense... :/ ) |
| 02:24:35 | JdGordon | anyone know how the vkeyboard works on the player? |
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| 02:25:29 | JdGordon | yeah, my breif experimenting with bookmarks found it only lets you bookmark folder playlists.. which i tinhk sux |
| 02:26:09 | pixelma | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-player/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-330004.1.4 if it helps any |
| 02:26:28 | JdGordon | ta, exaclty what i was loking for |
| 02:26:54 | JdGordon | would that sort of keyboard work for the other targets? |
| 02:30:00 | pixelma | there's one big difference to the other targets (afair) the charcell display only lets you have a limited amount of unusual characters - so I guess that's a great difference to all the others if you think about all the accented letters |
| 02:30:17 | pixelma | and stuff like that |
| 02:31:45 | JdGordon | thats not such a big deal, because the vk lets you load your own keyboard file whih has as many accented characters as you like. It could work |
| 02:31:54 | JdGordon | Hopefully will shrink some code also :) |
| 02:33:08 | pixelma | that's definitely needed (if you read the logs...) |
| 02:34:42 | pixelma | I cannot imagine how this virtual keyboard would look like on other screens and how usable it would be |
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| 02:35:46 | JdGordon | Im thinking about how easily it would scale compared to the current one, and it wouldnt force the sysfont on the screen |
| 02:38:01 | pixelma | sorry... maybe I'm too tired to see - would all the characters be on one line then? |
| 02:38:04 | JdGordon | wow the current vk drawing code is scary :) |
| 02:39:03 | JdGordon | Im tihnking it would allow for different sets of letters, so presing up/down would go to the next set (lower case, upper case, numeric, etc) |
| 02:39:27 | pixelma | ah.. did you see the proposal in the wiki? |
| 02:39:39 | JdGordon | the qwerty keyboard one? |
| 02:39:53 | pixelma | no... http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VKeyboardDesignProposal |
| 02:41:36 | JdGordon | that looks overly complicated, and scales as badly as the current one |
| 02:42:00 | pixelma | hmm... somehow I thought it was something like what you described but it isn't so... |
| 02:42:04 | JdGordon | hardcoding the character sets would be a big watse of space also |
| 02:42:27 | JdGordon | I dont kow what im thinking just yet :p |
| 02:42:44 | JdGordon | i going to have breaky, (at 12.42pm :D ) ttyl |
| 02:42:51 | pixelma | hehe... |
| 02:43:09 | pixelma | I need some sleep though |
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| 03:00:50 | [Gino] | Does Rockbox work on the 30gb iPod's now being sold on apple.com? |
| 03:03:33 | JdGordon | partially iirc |
| 03:03:55 | JdGordon | it needs some patches which arnt in the official souce just yet |
| 03:03:59 | [Gino] | Do you know what in specific doesn't work correctly? |
| 03:04:07 | JdGordon | no |
| 03:04:15 | JdGordon | Kasperle knows about it i tinhk |
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| 03:05:12 | [Gino] | Thanks |
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| 03:15:35 | thomasg | hi. I plan to buy a iaudio x5l dap. because of the great features I would like to use rockbox, but I have heard, that the powermanagement is not yet ready. how long could I listen to music with the x5l (e.g. mp3 256kbps)? |
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| 03:21:07 | scorche | i think that the x5s have come to the stock firmware's usage now |
| 03:24:34 | thomasg | sounds good |
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| 03:45:54 | [Gino] | Can you charge an x5 while it is running Rockbox, I mean while it is turned on... I read you can't, but I don't know if that got fixed... |
| 03:46:27 | [Gino] | Or any significant problems with the x5(l) running Rockbox? |
| 03:49:58 | [Gino] | Oh, does it support video playback? |
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| 04:44:54 | Canadian | ok i need some help with my Iriver H10 |
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| 04:48:45 | mick_linux | how can i convert my HFS formatted ipod to Fat32 on debian? |
| 04:48:54 | mick_linux | i've umounted the nano |
| 04:49:11 | mick_linux | cfdisk doesn't show it at all |
| 04:49:33 | mick_linux | i'm wondering what the best way would be to accomplish this |
| 04:49:44 | mick_linux | and please don't tell me to rtfm :-P |
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| 05:03:31 | [ | can anyone help me quickly with an Iriver H10, just put RockBox on and cant find the genaral settings menu... |
| 05:04:26 | jba | hit menu button |
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| 05:05:33 | [ | which is which button? (sorry for being stupid with this....) |
| 05:05:52 | jba | hmm not sure, different on each player |
| 05:06:21 | [ | ok, ill play around with it... |
| 05:06:22 | [ | found it, power button |
| 05:06:35 | jba | might be power button |
| 05:06:44 | jba | or try using the sliding selector, that might activate menu |
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| 05:12:39 | [ | thanks mate i got it all working |
| 05:12:45 | jba | what was it ? |
| 05:12:52 | jba | aah power button |
| 05:13:21 | [ | yes |
| 05:13:25 | jba | how is bubbles plugin on the h10? am trying to convince a workmate to change firmware on it |
| 05:13:37 | [ | ...? |
| 05:14:14 | [ | like i said i JUST downloaded it and dont know how to use it, did reseach on it as a whole but not on useage |
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| 05:19:39 | mick_linux | how can i convert my HFS formatted ipod to Fat32 on debian? |
| 05:20:04 | mick_linux | any linux/*bsd info would be helpful |
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| 06:08:48 | z35 | mick_linux: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html#SEC6 i believe that should help... I am not certain if it is the best way, you can also try to mount it using the hfs driver... |
| 06:09:27 | mick_linux | i can mount w/ hfs+ atm |
| 06:09:34 | mick_linux | i just want it to be fat32 ;) |
| 06:09:39 | mick_linux | i'll check it out |
| 06:12:23 | mick_linux | "You can now unplug the iPod and pray ;)" |
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| 06:12:47 | mick_linux | no freakin way i'm reading that |
| 06:12:51 | mick_linux | ;) |
| 06:12:52 | dantheman | hi |
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| 06:39:07 | dantheman | hi perplexa |
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| 07:45:02 | amiconn | Morning... |
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| 07:51:30 | Slasheri | morning |
| 07:51:54 | amiconn | Slasheri: Sorry for the ranting last night, in case you read the logs |
| 07:52:38 | amiconn | But the more I think about it, the more I think the current implementation for large virtual sectors is the wrong approach and should be reverted |
| 07:52:54 | amiconn | Some points: |
| 07:53:17 | amiconn | (1) file.c shouldn't be touched at all. Virtual sectors is a fat only thing and should stay in fat.c |
| 07:53:41 | Slasheri | Hmm, but file.c uses directly sectors as unit when measuring things |
| 07:53:52 | amiconn | Yes, and one sector is still 512 bytes |
| 07:54:14 | amiconn | (2) None of the sector buffers should need enlarging. The virtual sectors are what their name says - virtual. |
| 07:55:05 | amiconn | The sector buffers are mainly there because a sector is the smallest addressable unit in the ata protocol |
| 07:55:14 | Slasheri | but then, how fat driver could handle reading and writing if sector size is not enlarged? |
| 07:55:30 | amiconn | Like it does without your commit |
| 07:55:51 | amiconn | The fat specifies cclusters, and a cluster is usually also multiple sectors |
| 07:55:56 | Slasheri | and all the cache stuff in fat etc.. |
| 07:56:17 | Slasheri | that would require quite major change to the driver to support different sector size without changing the units |
| 07:56:18 | amiconn | I tend to see large virtual sectors as an extension to clusters |
| 07:56:41 | amiconn | I think the changes needed are smaller than what you committed |
| 07:57:02 | Slasheri | hmm |
| 07:57:24 | amiconn | I think the instability you mentioned is just because putting multiple 2KB buffers on the stack |
| 07:57:49 | amiconn | The main stack is 8KB in total, and the individual thread stacks are similar or smaller |
| 07:58:00 | * | amiconn wishes Zagor were here... |
| 07:58:07 | amiconn | He's Mr. fat.c |
| 07:58:45 | Slasheri | ok, if you think it can be implemented better by not changing sector size, feel free to revert the commit |
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| 08:05:19 | amiconn | I'm a bit undecided. I think that implementing another way is easier when working from the status before the commit, but otoh reverting would mean to back out G5.5/30 support |
| 08:05:37 | amiconn | Bagder? |
| 08:09:56 | amiconn | Slasheri: We could even support all possible virtual sector sizes then. Valid sizes are quite limited: 512, 1024, 2048 and 4096 |
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| 08:11:13 | Slasheri | amiconn: at the moment we support 512, 1024 and 2048 on fat level |
| 08:11:47 | amiconn | Yes, but that's with enlarged buffers, and with file.c knowing about it |
| 08:11:54 | Slasheri | yes.. |
| 08:14:54 | Slasheri | at looking fat.c, i see it would take quite a massive change to do it the other way.. but if you see it's even easier, great :) |
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| 08:34:19 | amiconn | Slasheri: Why do you think so? |
| 08:36:07 | Slasheri | i am not sure, just got "the feeling" |
| 08:37:54 | * | amiconn wonders whether the original implementation of the fat driver even already had large virtual sector support |
| 08:38:39 | amiconn | I remember Zagor speaking about fat.c being cut down from something |
| 08:40:24 | amiconn | Slasheri: Btw, afaics there are 2 buffers in fat.c which can be PHYSICAL_SECTOR_SIZE instead of MAX_SECTOR_SIZE |
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| 08:42:14 | amiconn | (1) The one in fat_mount(), because the bpb is always 512 bytes (including the signature) |
| 08:43:40 | Tyronemaskell | morning all |
| 08:43:53 | Tyronemaskell | where can i find themes |
| 08:43:59 | Tyronemaskell | if thats what you call them |
| 08:44:02 | amiconn | (2) The one in update_fsinfo() |
| 08:44:53 | EbErT | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 08:45:04 | EbErT | right there, Tyronemaskell |
| 08:45:05 | Tyronemaskell | thank you |
| 08:45:19 | EbErT | there called wps (while playing screens) |
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| 08:46:21 | Tyronemaskell | the only problem i have these days is that i need to convert my wma to mp3's any ideas pls |
| 08:46:26 | amiconn | EbErT, Tyronemaskell: Rockbox also knows themes, which include wps and some more settings |
| 08:46:42 | amiconn | (font, colours, backdrop) |
| 08:46:53 | EbErT | you mean already installed |
| 08:47:03 | EbErT | oh, right |
| 08:47:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, true. i just wanted to be sure at first no buffer overflows happens |
| 08:47:13 | amiconn | Another source is http://www.rockbox-themes.org/ |
| 08:47:13 | EbErT | those are themes and wps, mixed in |
| 08:48:27 | Tyronemaskell | how do i convert wma files |
| 08:48:33 | amiconn | Slasheri: Btw, afaics all we need is the secmult thing, then supporting large virtual sectors shouldn't be a problem with 512-byte sector buffers |
| 08:49:09 | EbErT | google it, you just need a program |
| 08:49:10 | Slasheri | amiconn: sounds good if that can be done |
| 08:49:17 | EbErT | try versiontracker.com |
| 08:51:30 | scorche | Tyronemaskell: transcoding is always a bad idea...how did you aquire the material? |
| 08:51:58 | Tyronemaskell | i got the songs from a friend |
| 08:52:17 | scorche | well, i would suggest re-ripping the material if you can |
| 08:52:24 | Tyronemaskell | and ive always gotta boot into the iriver firmware to play the wma tracks |
| 08:52:46 | Tyronemaskell | i can re-rip the stuff |
| 08:53:03 | Tyronemaskell | ranscoding is always a bad idea...how did you aquire the material? why is it not a good idea |
| 08:53:18 | Tyronemaskell | meant to say i cant re-rip the stuff |
| 08:53:32 | Tyronemaskell | and transcoding |
| 08:53:32 | Tyronemaskell | hehhe |
| 08:54:16 | scorche | because you will always experience a loss in quality |
| 08:54:48 | Tyronemaskell | like a serious loss |
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| 08:55:29 | scorche | well, that varies between one's definition of "serious loss" |
| 08:55:31 | Tyronemaskell | ive found that i can make an audio cd from the wma files but then i need to re rip from the cd what a mission |
| 08:55:45 | scorche | that is transcoding |
| 08:56:37 | Tyronemaskell | ok i see |
| 08:57:11 | Tyronemaskell | how do i remove the current installed wps and themes ? |
| 08:57:27 | scorche | just delete the files |
| 08:57:34 | scorche | you cannot remove the default one though |
| 08:58:19 | Tyronemaskell | cool |
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| 09:00:30 | Tyronemaskell | :-) |
| 09:02:05 | Tyronemaskell | ok so if i cant re-rip and i wanna transcode whats a good program to use |
| 09:03:50 | scorche | dbpoweramp |
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| 09:10:13 | webguest20 | I recently noticed that the background in the splash messages on H120 got more dark grey, it's even hard to read. When was it changed? It was very light grey before. |
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| 09:15:04 | webguest20 | Hello petur. IIRC you have an H340. Do you also have difficulties reading splash messages? Or is the problem H120 specific? Or is it just me? (see msg above) |
| 09:15:19 | * | petur reads log |
| 09:15:43 | petur | ah that will be h1x0 related |
| 09:16:18 | petur | jhMikeS changed lcd gamma which may have caused this... amiconn may know more |
| 09:17:38 | webguest20 | amiconn: are you here? |
| 09:17:54 | petur | :) |
| 09:18:01 | * | jhMikeS is ready for sleep but will suggest lightening the contrast |
| 09:18:22 | petur | goodnight jhMikeS |
| 09:18:37 | * | petur just got up and arrived at work ;) |
| 09:18:39 | jhMikeS | 'night - will lurk |
| 09:20:36 | webguest20 | petur: do you know jhMikeS well? Will he actually DO it when he says "suggest"? :-) |
| 09:21:08 | petur | I haven't met any of the devs if that's what you mean ;) |
| 09:21:41 | petur | the contrast thing has been talked about before, it'll get fixed |
| 09:21:49 | linuxstb | mick_linux: You should be able to adapt the Mac OS X instructions for converting to HFS+ to other Unixes - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT3 |
| 09:22:09 | mick_linux | that doesn't exist on linux |
| 09:22:13 | mick_linux | only freebsd |
| 09:22:20 | mick_linux | *bsd actually |
| 09:22:21 | linuxstb | What doesn't exist? |
| 09:22:31 | mick_linux | mkfs_msdos |
| 09:22:37 | mick_linux | afaik |
| 09:23:00 | linuxstb | mkfs.msdos exists. |
| 09:23:04 | webguest20 | petur: ok, I'll wait then |
| 09:23:14 | mick_linux | and fat32 / vfat formatting on linux is flaky at best, so i may just try it in wine ;) |
| 09:23:17 | linuxstb | Or mkdosfs, or mkfs.vfat (I think they're all the same). |
| 09:23:28 | rasher | Never brought me any trouble |
| 09:23:31 | linuxstb | It's worked fine for me. |
| 09:24:06 | linuxstb | It's the fsck which I think is unreliable/non-existent on Linux. |
| 09:24:34 | jhMikeS | webguest20: one more thing. H120 or H140? Just try move the contrast lighter and see. |
| 09:26:11 | scorche | "Or is the problem H120 specific?" |
| 09:26:21 | jhMikeS | for my and some others H120 the setting is perfect. maybe the LCDs really vary greatly. |
| 09:26:22 | mick_linux | cfdisk exists :-P |
| 09:26:25 | webguest20 | jhMikeS: H140 actually. I set the contrast so that the text is as black as possible but the screen is not grey |
| 09:26:41 | rasher | Looks too dark on my ihp120 |
| 09:26:51 | scorche | hrm...you said it was originally a 120...oh well |
| 09:27:15 | rasher | Well, h120 is the modelname rockbox uses for h120/h140, so that's understandable |
| 09:27:33 | scorche | yeah...just saying =) |
| 09:27:33 | jhMikeS | amiconn has an H140 and says it's too dark. preglow and I have H120s and found it better...hmmm |
| 09:28:09 | jhMikeS | but the default contrast needed to be one lighter (27 not 28) |
| 09:28:43 | jhMikeS | looks like a setting is in order in order to make it work for everyone. |
| 09:29:01 | jhMikeS | ok nighty night |
| 09:29:31 | rasher | Still looks a bit on the dark side to me |
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| 09:29:57 | webguest20 | IIRC the contrast is set to 27 or 28 (default setting). The screen (e.g. file browser) looks nice, just the splash msgs are too dark |
| 09:30:33 | jhMikeS | A scale of solid gray bars should look even (0, 85, 170, 255) |
| 09:30:57 | * | petur sends jhMikeS to bed |
| 09:30:59 | rasher | Maybe the splashes just need to be light grey background? |
| 09:31:48 | jhMikeS | If the bars are even, things should all be readable as they are for me. The grays need to be set for each user for the best possible image. |
| 09:32:56 | * | jhMikeS has been sent to bed and is about to pass out anyway :) |
| 09:38:28 | webguest20 | jhMikeS: do I understand right that solid greys are possible at 0, 85, 170, and 255? What value is used now? |
| 09:38:51 | petur | ssshhhh let him sleep |
| 09:52:05 | Tyronemaskell | dbpoweramp does not convert wma files ?????????? |
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| 09:54:47 | scorche | it will, but this discussion is more suited to a PM |
| 09:55:02 | Tyronemaskell | looks like it might work heheheh |
| 09:55:22 | Tyronemaskell | ive installed some codecs |
| 09:56:50 | scorche | sorry if i was being too subtle...by the above message, i meant that discussion about that particular program does not belong in this channel |
| 09:57:18 | Tyronemaskell | no probs hehehe |
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| 10:04:04 | Tyronemaskell | got it too work thanx again |
| 10:06:02 | amiconn | Bagder: ping... |
| 10:06:08 | * | Bagder pongs |
| 10:07:00 | amiconn | Ah :) |
| 10:07:03 | Tyronemaskell | another question |
| 10:07:08 | * | linuxstb fails to find a win32 API call to get the sector size for a disk - only for a drive letter... |
| 10:07:11 | amiconn | Bagder: Do you know if and when Zagor will be around? |
| 10:07:32 | Tyronemaskell | does running a colour backround and wps use more battery |
| 10:07:41 | Bagder | amiconn: he's not around much these days since on a paternaty leave full-time, so he's kept busy by his son |
| 10:09:40 | amiconn | Hmm :/ |
| 10:10:09 | petur | Urrrghh... just heard a glitch in my recording - the missing samples probnlem isn't fixed yet. Or maybe I should defrag my disk.... :( :( |
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| 10:14:24 | * | petur reopened the bug report in the tracker |
| 10:14:49 | Tyronemaskell | does running a colour backround and wps use more battery |
| 10:15:13 | petur | not really |
| 10:15:59 | petur | a busy wps (peakmeters) can cause some more cpu activity |
| 10:19:48 | amiconn | ...and a bitmap intensive wps will take longer to load |
| 10:20:17 | petur | true |
| 10:25:35 | webguest20 | Is a WPS with elapsed/remaining time and the progress bar "busy"? |
| 10:25:48 | petur | nah |
| 10:26:16 | preglow | ugh |
| 10:26:20 | preglow | that's not good |
| 10:27:33 | webguest20 | preglow: should it be considered busy? Or what do you mean? Not easy to follow (implicit) threads here :-) |
| 10:27:50 | preglow | webguest20: talking about the recording glitches, heh |
| 10:28:32 | webguest20 | preglow: aha! |
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| 10:34:53 | petur | AAAARGH.. and another glitch (two in a row this time) |
| 10:36:03 | preglow | petur: what do they look like? |
| 10:36:29 | petur | haven't looked at the waveform, just listening to the recording |
| 10:36:48 | petur | the recording jumps a few seconds further |
| 10:38:34 | petur | seeking is borked too... seeked backwards to get the exact timestamp and ended up further in the file (it's one big WAV, 1GB). Tried to seek back 5 minutes as I huessed that is where the glitch was and it just froze |
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| 10:42:59 | petur | preglow: this 'double' glitch is in fact a 2 second part that is present twice. A 2 second part is written over by a previous part. |
| 10:43:26 | petur | like skipping back 2 seconds, except that after replaying those two seconds it moves on to where it should have been |
| 10:43:55 | preglow | hahaha |
| 10:44:00 | preglow | a glitch++, then |
| 10:44:13 | * | petur doesn't think this is funny |
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| 10:44:50 | * | preglow finds most things funny |
| 10:44:54 | preglow | keeps me from killing myself |
| 10:44:59 | petur | the last two shows I recorded are thrashed. I now have 0% trust in recording code |
| 10:46:08 | ze | try transferring and decoding or using an mp3fixer.. i've had recordings (way back in archos days) that seemed screwed up get fixed by that |
| 10:46:13 | preglow | but the fact that entire buffers got repeated probably does indicate quite nicely what the bug is |
| 10:46:14 | petur | I'll probably check out some CVS code from this summer (before jhMikeS touched it) and use that as production code |
| 10:46:43 | blue_lizard | hi petur |
| 10:46:53 | blue_lizard | thx for your comment for my patch |
| 10:46:58 | preglow | i've pretty much always said that tapers should use a knows safe version of rockbox until something even more known and safe comes along |
| 10:47:08 | * | petur scratches memory |
| 10:47:10 | blue_lizard | unfortunately i have not understood the two last sentences |
| 10:47:13 | preglow | the code was pretty nice during the summer, i think |
| 10:47:20 | blue_lizard | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6310 |
| 10:47:46 | blue_lizard | ant therefore i dont know how to react |
| 10:47:48 | preglow | finding bugs suck when doing something you can't redo two minutes later |
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| 10:49:22 | petur | blue_lizard: what is there you don't understand? |
| 10:50:11 | blue_lizard | I had no choice but to move the file/dir property to a plugin because of the wasted binary size <- what does that mean for me? |
| 10:50:25 | blue_lizard | what does that meat at all? |
| 10:50:57 | petur | your code will never get committed because it will add too much to the binary with little needed functionality |
| 10:51:15 | [Gino] | I'll just ask this again... I asked last night and got no answers... Can you charge an x5 while it is running Rockbox, I mean while it is turned on... I read you can't, but I don't know if that got fixed...Also, does Rockbox support video playback (on the x5) and are there any significant problems with the x5 running rockbox? |
| 10:51:37 | petur | if the whole fileoperations went into a plugin, nobody would bother that it is bigger just to show more info |
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| 10:51:58 | preglow | not a bad idea, the disk access needs to be done anyway |
| 10:52:41 | petur | File/Dir properties would have added 1500 bytes for a non-critical and not often used thing, same goes for file and dir operations |
| 10:52:53 | blue_lizard | could this plugin be called from the kernel or does the user explicitely call the plugin instead of the build in function? |
| 10:53:12 | petur | we need a place to put these 'overlays' |
| 10:53:26 | petur | I put mine in as a viewer but that's just a workaround |
| 10:53:42 | preglow | i think a couple of more plugin category directories would be pretty nice too |
| 10:53:44 | petur | blue_lizard: it can be called from the main code |
| 10:53:47 | preglow | list is getting big |
| 10:54:07 | petur | blue_lizard: look at how I added the file/dir properties |
| 10:54:21 | blue_lizard | petur: thx i will look at it |
| 10:54:40 | bluebrother | [Gino]: have a look at the PluginMpegplayer wiki page |
| 10:54:53 | Bagder | [Gino]: and yes it charges while Rockbox runs |
| 10:55:07 | Bagder | and no, there are no "significant" problems |
| 10:55:45 | bluebrother | isn't the x5 charging also hardware? I don't see a reason why it shouldn't work as long as charging is in hardware |
| 10:56:11 | [Gino] | Thanks guys, one more question. ;) Can you change the wallpaper, or does it depend on the theme you are using? |
| 10:56:22 | preglow | it's independent, just do 'set backdrop', afaik |
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| 10:56:49 | [Gino] | Not sure, but Iread it doesn't charge correctly while it is turned on and running Rockbox. |
| 10:56:51 | [Gino] | Thanks preglow |
| 10:57:25 | petur | [Gino]: copy the correct bmp into /.rockbox/backdrop, browse to it and from the context menu select 'set as backdrop' |
| 10:57:44 | petur | or something like that |
| 10:58:13 | [Gino] | Thanks petur |
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| 11:03:15 | Tyronemaskell | ive got a problem |
| 11:03:36 | Tyronemaskell | my screen went all dark when i loaded a theme ? |
| 11:04:52 | Tyronemaskell | any help ? |
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| 11:05:38 | bluebrother | Tyronemaskell: maybe it has black background and the foreground color is also black? |
| 11:05:54 | Tyronemaskell | heheh you might be right |
| 11:06:33 | bluebrother | or the theme is broken, your fg color was set to black and the theme didn't set it some something different |
| 11:06:33 | ze | if so i bet menu options light up black when you select them too |
| 11:06:55 | bluebrother | black on black might be hard to read ;-) |
| 11:07:32 | * | bluebrother in fact got a book with a cover printed white on white some years ago, but as this was a different surface it was still readable |
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| 11:07:49 | ze | yeah people've done that with black on black too |
| 11:07:52 | ze | for books and cds |
| 11:07:59 | ze | and its like one is matte and the other glossy |
| 11:08:04 | ze | or the like |
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| 11:08:42 | * | bluebrother remebers to have seens something similar on a CD |
| 11:09:15 | bluebrother | it's a nice idea especially for an art exibition |
| 11:09:15 | [Gino] | Oh, found another question... If a theme has album art, can you turn it off, or does it have to be on if it's in the theme? |
| 11:09:30 | bluebrother | album art is unofficial. No idea |
| 11:09:46 | rasher | Maybe it's a Disaster Area stunt-ship theme |
| 11:10:26 | petur | 42 |
| 11:10:36 | [Gino] | Oh yeah, I forgot you needed th albumart patch... I wonder if the theme would still work without the patch and just not show the album art... |
| 11:11:04 | bluebrother | just try it ... I'm not sure if the tag will be shown or not |
| 11:11:21 | bluebrother | but I guess the theme will have some elements somewhere off |
| 11:12:16 | [Gino] | Well, I will, but I don't even have the DAP yet. ;) I'm trying to figure out what I should get. |
| 11:12:28 | Tyronemaskell | any way you can select more than one file for deletion |
| 11:12:42 | petur | preglow , jhMikeS: petur/glitch.wav">http://users.telenet.be/petur/glitch.wav - glitch is about 13 seconds into that clip |
| 11:12:59 | n1s | Tyronemaskell: no |
| 11:13:15 | markun | multiple selection would be nice for many things |
| 11:13:56 | Tyronemaskell | ok some themes have backrounds then when i load another theme the old backround still stays how do i get rid of it ? |
| 11:14:23 | n1s | "clear backdrop" in the lcd settings |
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| 11:14:37 | preglow | bluebrother: i've got a cd cover printed white on white, but the one layer with gloss so you can read it at an angle, heh |
| 11:14:47 | Tyronemaskell | thanx |
| 11:15:35 | preglow | petur: pretty annoying glitch too |
| 11:15:49 | petur | tell me about it :/ |
| 11:16:18 | * | petur wonders if his disk may be to fragmented and this may cause it |
| 11:16:24 | petur | *too |
| 11:16:32 | preglow | well, at least you can see if it is |
| 11:16:36 | preglow | there's gotta be a tool for that |
| 11:16:46 | preglow | fat isn't exactly known for handling fragmentation graciously |
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| 11:17:04 | petur | there's aout 6GB free on it though |
| 11:17:11 | petur | *about |
| 11:17:19 | preglow | sure, but it may be fragmented as hell |
| 11:17:24 | preglow | so i'd at least do a check and see |
| 11:17:43 | preglow | sounds a bit unlikely anyway |
| 11:18:15 | Tyronemaskell | do i have to delete each theme one by one ? |
| 11:18:32 | petur | well if saving the file takes too much time, the PCM buffer would overflow? Or rather not, as DMA would be halted and recording stopped |
| 11:19:07 | petur | must be encoder buffer overflow |
| 11:19:16 | petur | or overwriting |
| 11:19:21 | preglow | maybe |
| 11:19:29 | preglow | jhMikeS will probably have a better explanation |
| 11:19:56 | Tyronemaskell | lol another question is there anyway i can view the themes on my pc |
| 11:20:05 | preglow | Tyronemaskell: yes, with a rockbox simulator |
| 11:20:40 | Tyronemaskell | lol where do i find that ? |
| 11:21:02 | n1s | you'll have to build it from source |
| 11:21:14 | bluebrother | there are unofficial builds on rasher's site |
| 11:21:21 | bluebrother | rasher.dk/rockbox |
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| 11:22:34 | Tyronemaskell | build it from source ? |
| 11:22:43 | Tyronemaskell | not you talking french |
| 11:23:10 | linuxstb | Any Windows using ipod owners want to test a new version of ipodpatcher? I need both normal and 5.5g users... |
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| 11:23:42 | linuxstb | http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodpatcher-0.4.zip |
| 11:23:44 | n1s | Tyronemaskell: if you're on windows you can get it here (as bluebrother said) rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/">http://rasher.dk/rockbox/simulator/ |
| 11:23:55 | bluebrother | Tyronemaskell: from what do you want to build the sim otherwise? |
| 11:24:20 | scorche | linuxstb: looking for anything in particular? |
| 11:24:21 | bluebrother | building the sim from fresh air obviously won't work ;-) |
| 11:24:22 | webguest26 | on a besond 'un français ? |
| 11:24:23 | linuxstb | Hopefully that ipodpatcher should detect the sector size used. |
| 11:24:41 | linuxstb | So if you've got an old ipod, it should say "512" and work as normal. |
| 11:25:01 | linuxstb | But it's completely untested, so be careful... |
| 11:25:12 | linuxstb | (although reading from the disk should be harmless) |
| 11:25:39 | preglow | so, now we've the installer will break the filesystem before rockbox itself can? :> |
| 11:25:42 | scorche | ah...just want to gather results from reading and not writing? |
| 11:25:44 | preglow | s/we've// |
| 11:26:26 | linuxstb | scorche: No, writing needs testing. But obviously, test reading first... |
| 11:27:25 | linuxstb | preglow: Glad to see you have faith in my blind programming. |
| 11:28:30 | preglow | just following up on amiconn's recent bout of fs code paranoia, heh |
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| 11:31:04 | rasher | Speaking of (almost).. Anyone want to give this a stamp of approval? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6358 - FS #6358 — Check for illegal chars on filename creation |
| 11:31:30 | preglow | so, aren't we supposed to be releasing rockbox 3.1 now? |
| 11:32:05 | Slasheri | oh, just got my iriver motherboard back :) |
| 11:32:56 | linuxstb | preglow: No, a month ago... |
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| 11:33:30 | scorche | linuxstb: all is well here |
| 11:33:33 | scorche | nano |
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| 11:33:58 | preglow | rasher: at least i can see nothing wrong with it |
| 11:34:19 | Tyronemaskell | how does simulator work ? |
| 11:34:21 | rasher | I'm just scared of committing anything to the fat code |
| 11:34:29 | preglow | rasher: understandable |
| 11:36:32 | Tyronemaskell | anyone ? |
| 11:36:37 | preglow | Tyronemaskell: try it out |
| 11:36:40 | preglow | it's like using rockbox |
| 11:37:01 | * | petur swears a bit at UPS |
| 11:37:26 | amiconn | rasher: I would prefer holding that back a bit |
| 11:37:40 | amiconn | Not because I don't trust it, but because of the variable sector size thing |
| 11:38:54 | rasher | amiconn: Don't quite get how they relate, but it's your call |
| 11:39:21 | Tyronemaskell | but how do i get it to work |
| 11:39:38 | amiconn | Both touch fat.c, and I think the current implementation is the wrong approach |
| 11:39:57 | rasher | Tyronemaskell: Did you download the sim from my site? |
| 11:40:10 | bluebrother | Tyronemaskell: just run it. There's also some documentation in the wiki (UiSimulator) |
| 11:40:23 | linuxstb | scorche: Thanks. So I assume it displays the sector size as 512? Did you test writing? |
| 11:40:34 | scorche | i did |
| 11:40:50 | scorche | it displays sector size on any drive i tell it to read from |
| 11:41:06 | linuxstb | Good. All I need now is a 5.5G owner... |
| 11:42:27 | |[Gino]| | Do you install plugins after installing |
| 11:42:38 | |[Gino]| | Rockbox, or while you're installing? |
| 11:42:47 | bluebrother | |[Gino]|: no. Plugins are part of the installation archive |
| 11:43:24 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Will you be patching ipod_fw.c for the 5.5G? |
| 11:43:31 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, sure :) |
| 11:43:52 | Slasheri | what did you do to it? |
| 11:44:05 | Slasheri | i was trying to get OF loading but didn't succeed with that yet |
| 11:44:06 | linuxstb | Nothing... I haven't touched it. I've just fixed ipodpatcher.exe |
| 11:44:13 | linuxstb | (for Windows users) |
| 11:44:22 | Slasheri | oh, but i don't have windows.. |
| 11:44:28 | |[Gino]| | So I take it, there are no "extra" plugins and all of them are installed by default? |
| 11:44:34 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I hear some people use it though. |
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| 11:46:06 | amiconn | I suppose linux can create fat partitions with larger sectors than physical? |
| 11:46:38 | rasher | Linux can create all sorts of strange stuff, so why not |
| 11:46:59 | rasher | But I don't actually know. |
| 11:47:04 | bluebrother | except from 3rd party plugins that are not part of the official rockbox distribution (but in most cases you'll need to compile those yourself), yes. |
| 11:47:08 | amiconn | This would be great for testing large sector support... |
| 11:47:23 | rasher | -S logical-sector-size |
| 11:47:23 | rasher | Specify the number of bytes per logical sector. Must be a power of 2 and greater than |
| 11:47:26 | rasher | or equal to 512, i.e. 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384, or 32768. |
| 11:47:43 | amiconn | Greater than 4096 isn't part of the official standard |
| 11:47:53 | preglow | what rasher said, then |
| 11:47:56 | preglow | 'strange' |
| 11:48:00 | rasher | It seems Linux is not much interested in the official standard |
| 11:48:34 | amiconn | I'll repartition one of my targets then in order to test |
| 11:48:47 | amiconn | I also have an extra disk I could throw in |
| 11:48:49 | bluebrother | I'd call that rather "allows the (experienced) user to do stuff outside of the standart ;-) |
| 11:48:51 | rasher | See, allowable characters in filenames, size of filenames and no doubt many other things |
| 11:48:57 | bluebrother | *standard |
| 11:49:17 | bluebrother | for testing you could also create a filesystem in a file |
| 11:49:23 | rasher | Standards should be followed. Even when they're limiting. |
| 11:49:29 | rasher | Really |
| 11:49:34 | * | bluebrother agrees |
| 11:49:38 | amiconn | bluebrother: Yes, and there is even fat test code that does that |
| 11:49:43 | petur | I'm sure that if Microsoft would do this another explanation would be given to it :p |
| 11:50:02 | amiconn | But testing on the real thing is better imho, because it tests limitations not present on the host |
| 11:50:06 | bluebrother | mkfs.vfat <options> /path/to/my/filesystem-file.img |
| 11:50:27 | |[Gino]| | bluebrother: All of the plugins on the PluginIndex wiki page are included right? |
| 11:50:36 | bluebrother | |[Gino]|: yes |
| 11:50:40 | amiconn | (like the inability to do misaligned accesses, stack size limit etc) |
| 11:50:40 | linuxstb | |[Gino]|: Yes, but not all work on all targets. |
| 11:50:59 | bluebrother | except for targets that don't support it (but you can also see that on that page) |
| 11:51:02 | * | amiconn summons Zagor |
| 11:51:13 | bluebrother | e.g. the h100 don't have mpegplayer etc. |
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| 11:52:47 | scorche | Summon Failed. |
| 11:53:42 | |[Gino]| | K, Thanks |
| 11:56:03 | n1s | Does anyone object to this? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6382 |
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| 12:01:19 | rasher | amiconn: How is it not the right approach by the way? |
| 12:05:38 | amiconn | Check this morning's log... |
| 12:05:53 | rasher | amiconn: Ah, you meant the large sector thing, not my patch? |
| 12:05:59 | petur | or yesterdays rant :) |
| 12:08:40 | amiconn | rasher: yes |
| 12:09:16 | * | linuxstb needs someone with rights to delete attachments from the twiki (Bagder?) |
| 12:09:28 | Bagder | what/where? |
| 12:09:44 | linuxstb | Almost everything on the IpodInstallation page - the files you moved to download.rockbox.org |
| 12:12:05 | Bagder | what files should I keep around? |
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| 12:14:42 | linuxstb | The files not on download.rockbox.org are bootloader-color-nodefault.bin, loader.bin, ipodloader.conf, ipod_fw_5.5g.exe but they all infringe the GPL.... (apart from ipodloader.conf - a config file for ipodloader2) |
| 12:15:10 | linuxstb | i.e. people have added them to our wiki without source. |
| 12:15:29 | linuxstb | (loader.bin is the IPL bootloader) |
| 12:15:47 | Bagder | and the .conf would makes more sense as a plain wiki text, since it is 6 lines of plain text... |
| 12:17:09 | linuxstb | I'll replace the link to loader.bin in the page to a link to IPL's website so that people can download the files directly from them. |
| 12:17:15 | linuxstb | So delete loader.bin |
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| 12:23:47 | Slasheri | linuxstb: ah, it's possible to eject /dev/sda on linux while ipod disk mode to cause it spin down hd and charge faster |
| 12:25:02 | Bagder | ok, only two files left there now |
| 12:25:13 | Bagder | is anyone using the ipod_fw_5.5g ? |
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| 12:37:46 | linuxstb | Bagder: It's linked to in the installation guide on the first page of the 5.5G "New Ports" thread, so I guess people are using it. |
| 12:38:24 | Bagder | ok, let's leave it there for now then |
| 12:38:31 | linuxstb | But there's no info about the source, so you could delete it for that reason - it's not our code. |
| 12:38:43 | Bagder | true |
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| 12:44:22 | _Veseliq_ | http://195.85.215.210/drive1/bestseparationletter.jpg |
| 12:45:43 | * | scorche wonders what divorce has to do with rockbox....or even FOSS ;) |
| 12:47:34 | _Veseliq_ | (: |
| 12:47:38 | _Veseliq_ | just some fun guys |
| 12:48:03 | scorche | fun?...what is this "fun" you speak of? |
| 12:49:24 | scorche | also, if you have very overzealous admins, NSFW |
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| 13:02:32 | tychver | mildly amusing, I find it a little bit too crass |
| 13:03:02 | tychver | not that I'm not fond of some crassness, I just didn't think it was that funny |
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| 13:12:35 | petur | hahaha... 'Toshiba Gigabeat brunch' |
| 13:12:42 | petur | yummie |
| 13:13:18 | petur | (taken from http://www.zune-online.com/news/zune/rockbox-and-zune-walking-together.html ) |
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| 13:19:04 | rasher | petur: That's a really good article. |
| 13:19:40 | rasher | As a "what is Rockbox" introduction |
| 13:19:58 | Bagder | genre9mp3 wrote it |
| 13:20:03 | Gnelik | Hi |
| 13:20:13 | petur | yes, it's not bad |
| 13:20:21 | Bagder | ... and I proof-read it before it went public |
| 13:20:28 | petur | rofl |
| 13:20:49 | Bagder | an "inside job" ;-) |
| 13:21:42 | rasher | Ah. That would explain the accuracy... |
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| 13:22:58 | rasher | Hrm.. I really think rockbox.* should be moved into .rockbox |
| 13:23:25 | rasher | People seem to think they have to click it |
| 13:23:35 | rasher | (example, latest post on the ml) |
| 13:23:47 | Gnelik | If i'l teke some memory from sound buffer how can i free it?? |
| 13:24:19 | linuxstb | Gnelik: You can't... The memory is freed when your plugin exits. |
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| 13:25:20 | linuxstb | Also, you don't want to use the audio buffer if you can avoid it - it will mean that playback is stopped. |
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| 13:27:05 | linuxstb | Gnelik: Do you know approximately how much memory you will be using? |
| 13:27:36 | markun | petur, rasher, Bagder: and this guy read some things in the article that are just not there: http://crunchgear.com/2006/11/29/rockbox-for-zune-coming-soon/ |
| 13:28:21 | Gnelik | linuxstb: not more than 100kb |
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| 13:28:30 | linuxstb | markun: He must know something (or someone...) we don't. |
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| 13:29:38 | linuxstb | Gnelik: Try to use arrays of a fixed size instead of allocating things using malloc. |
| 13:31:18 | linuxstb | markun: I assume there's no wi-fi in the Gigabeat S? |
| 13:31:46 | Gnelik | linuxstb: It'l be not to eaasy for me |
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| 13:32:21 | * | amiconn always found static arrays way easier than malloc |
| 13:32:24 | linuxstb | Gnelik: But that's basically what you'll need to do. You then replace pointers with indexes into that array. |
| 13:33:55 | Gnelik | Can't i just make malloc that will return a pointer to some array item??? |
| 13:34:53 | markun | linuxstb: correct |
| 13:36:32 | markun | Gnelik: there are some simple malloc implementations in the code. |
| 13:37:43 | markun | linuxstb: I posted a comment to nuance his story a bit, but it doesn't show up on the site. Maybe he first needs to approve it. |
| 13:38:57 | linuxstb | Gnelik: I would also suggest writing your code outside of Rockbox first (i.e. a small standalone C program). That will be easier to test and debug. |
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| 13:42:43 | petur | ? |
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| 13:43:27 | yw | hi |
| 13:43:46 | yw | can the rockbox codec run on sansa e200 now? |
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| 13:44:33 | Gnelik | yw: We can't play any sound now |
| 13:44:37 | yw | anyone know how to do the translate for the rockbox? |
| 13:44:56 | lamed | yw: how do yoy mean |
| 13:44:56 | yw | I want to add a simpilified chinese lang for rockbox |
| 13:45:03 | lamed | sec |
| 13:45:14 | yw | sec? |
| 13:45:20 | linuxstb | yw: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles |
| 13:45:33 | lamed | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LangFiles |
| 13:45:42 | yw | thanks. |
| 13:45:42 | lamed | heh |
| 13:46:00 | * | linuxstb wins! |
| 13:48:04 | yw | if I made the lang file, can I commit it into the cvs directly? |
| 13:48:28 | lamed | only if you have committers access |
| 13:48:30 | * | lamed win |
| 13:48:34 | lamed | s |
| 13:48:54 | lamed | #rockbox @ Freenode stats by Jonas Häggqvist reports I'm asking too much quesions too many times. (or that i'm stupid). I shell stop using question marks from now on. |
| 13:49:47 | petur | it says I'm aggressive but that won't stop me from slapping my forehead again :) |
| 13:50:55 | lamed | I've used "really" 699 times during this year's june! |
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| 13:51:26 | petur | read the statistics again |
| 13:51:59 | lamed | peutr: do you also get "Is Shachar Liberman stupid or just asking too many questions? ... Another old yeller was Shachar Liberman, who shouted 9.4% of the time! ..." as the third result when you google your name (question mark) |
| 13:53:10 | petur | heh |
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| 13:54:03 | lamed | bagder: around? |
| 13:54:42 | Bagder | yeah |
| 13:56:42 | lamed | bagder : http://www.mail-archive.com/rockbox-dev@cool.haxx.se/msg02011.html : I've figured if it's gpl'd and you can distribute it freely, then It may use trademarks, as trademarks are for commercial purpose. I'm sorry it took me 2 month to respond... |
| 13:57:21 | Bagder | you confuse matters |
| 13:57:36 | amiconn | "Poor forehead, nobody likes him/her. He/She was attacked 3 times" |
| 13:57:51 | petur | :D |
| 13:57:52 | Bagder | lamed: they can indeed have trademarks that would make it impossible to ship something even if it is GPLed |
| 13:58:28 | lamed | that's a cruel world we're living in. |
| 13:58:34 | linuxstb | Also, GPL doesn't mean non-commercial |
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| 14:00:55 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, is there something special to do in order to make the COP running? (other than just defining NUM_CORES 2 etc.) |
| 14:01:00 | amiconn | rasher: Is there a reason why your irc stats only list the realnames for some of the nicks? |
| 14:01:12 | amiconn | All mentioned nickas in the top stats are known... |
| 14:01:52 | bluebrother | btw, who is forehead? Haven't seen him in the channel :-P |
| 14:02:05 | rasher | amiconn: I did the configure a while ago, and set realnames for all the nicks I could find |
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| 14:02:32 | petur | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcNicks |
| 14:02:43 | bluebrother | LOL |
| 14:02:54 | * | petur slaps forehead for real this time |
| 14:03:01 | bluebrother | petur, beware slapping forehead. He may strike back |
| 14:03:09 | bluebrother | ... too late ;-) |
| 14:03:10 | forehead | Ouch! :) |
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| 14:04:51 | lamed | did any of you see the new zune player by microsoft (question mark) |
| 14:04:52 | linuxstb | Slasheri: The COP support isn't working properly AFAIK. |
| 14:05:13 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Check dan_a's patches on flyspray - I think there's one there which isn't committed. |
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| 14:05:44 | Slasheri | ah, ok thanks |
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| 14:07:11 | hsaliak | hello , i am trying to install rockbox on my ipod nano from netbsd |
| 14:08:52 | Bagder | and... ? |
| 14:09:32 | hsaliak | i am trying to translate the instructions for linux into something bsd, now it says sdb1 is the firmware partition for linux, however i see 2 partitions only in netbsd, sd0d and sd0e, in netbsd the d partition always represents the full disk, so i have extracted the mbr from that |
| 14:10:06 | hsaliak | now the firmware.. , has any user done such things from freebsd or any other bsd before? im sure there have been? |
| 14:10:48 | Bagder | I know people have used freebsd at least |
| 14:11:18 | Tyronemaskell | one question pls if i load a new theme do i need to load the wps file too ? |
| 14:11:48 | hsaliak | yes if this works surely ill put something in the wiki |
| 14:11:53 | hsaliak | brb |
| 14:11:54 | linuxstb | hsaliak: The Mac OS X instructions are probably closer to BSD than the Linux ones. |
| 14:14:02 | markun | in FreeBSD my players show up as da0 |
| 14:15:32 | hsaliak | linuxstb: cool ill take a look at that |
| 14:16:28 | linuxstb | The question is if bsd gives you a device node for partitions of type 0 (which means "empty"). On Linux you do, but on Mac OS X you don't - so on Mac OS X you need the diskdump tool which accesses the first partition via the "whole disk" device node. |
| 14:17:49 | hsaliak | linuxstb: it doesnt give me the device node. but i have access to the "whole disk" sd0d . |
| 14:18:18 | hsaliak | so ill use diskdump , i'd have to compile it for netbsd though |
| 14:18:22 | hsaliak | thanks! |
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| 14:31:20 | szyewei | hello |
| 14:33:42 | Tyronemaskell | sorry to be a pain but where cani get fonts from |
| 14:34:46 | Tyronemaskell | lalalal |
| 14:34:58 | rasher | The daily builds page |
| 14:35:25 | nudel | http://www.google.com/search?q=rockbox+fonts ? |
| 14:35:28 | Tyronemaskell | you guys know toooooooooooooooo muck |
| 14:35:33 | Tyronemaskell | you guys know toooooooooooooooo much |
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| 14:36:23 | Gnelik | linuxstb:if i am using array i need to control free calls.. |
| 14:36:34 | Gnelik | I can't understand how to implant it |
| 14:40:31 | bluebrother | Tyronemaskell, the manual has answers to about all your questions ;-) |
| 14:41:48 | linuxstb | Gnelik: The idea is to rewrite the code so it doesn't need to use free. |
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| 14:44:49 | szyewei | can the rockbox dualboot on sansa? |
| 14:46:00 | Gnelik | yep |
| 14:47:17 | Gnelik | linuxstb: still can;t understand how to implant it, i am to stupid |
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| 14:48:45 | barrywardell | szyewel; it can, but you need a new version of crt0-pp.S which isn't in CVS yet |
| 14:49:28 | barrywardell | szyewei* |
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| 14:51:20 | barrywardell | here's a working version of crt0-pp.S http://pastebin.ca/266901 |
| 14:51:30 | barrywardell | it only builds a working bootloader though |
| 14:51:33 | barrywardell | not normal build |
| 14:52:20 | hsaliak | hello, is the diskdump mentioned in the ipod nano manual a similar utility to dd? I am trying to install from a BSD. It seems the diskdump is a 3rd party util? |
| 14:53:21 | linuxstb | diskdump was written (by me) specifically to access ipods from Mac OS to install Rockbox. |
| 14:54:16 | hsaliak | ah ok so the 'diskdump' utils i found by googling are some other diskdumps with the same name then |
| 14:54:31 | hsaliak | linuxstb: i'd be grateful if you could point me to the source |
| 14:54:42 | linuxstb | It should be on the Mac OS X install page, next to the binary. |
| 14:56:46 | linuxstb | hsaliak: There's a link to it in the table of file attachments at the bottom of that page. |
| 14:57:46 | hsaliak | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodnano/rockbox-buildch2.html im following this |
| 14:57:55 | hsaliak | sorry i know im being a bit silly here |
| 14:58:23 | linuxstb | And that doesn't mention the source? (tut, tut...) |
| 14:58:30 | linuxstb | The page I was referring to is here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX |
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| 15:03:21 | hsaliak | linuxstb: ok, cool got it and compiled |
| 15:03:46 | hsaliak | the first partion about 78MB , about right? |
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| 15:06:14 | hsaliak | yes it tallies |
| 15:06:16 | hsaliak | thanks |
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| 15:12:38 | hsaliak | linuxstb: worked like a charm so far! |
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| 15:18:13 | linuxstb | bluebrother: (and other manual authors) The ipod installation parts of the manual give links to binaries for ipod_fw, ipodpatcher and diskdump, but it doesn't mention that they are GPL'd, or gives directions for obtaining the source. I can understand you not wanting to clutter the manual, but I think that info should be there somewhere. |
| 15:18:18 | szyewei | % |
| 15:18:23 | linuxstb | Another questions is if the manual also contain a copy of the GPL and links for obtaining the Rockbox source? |
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| 15:23:21 | n1s | Why would we need to include the gpl in the manual? I do think instructions for getting the source will be nice though? |
| 15:24:11 | linuxstb | It's the license that lets people use Rockbox... |
| 15:24:28 | n1s | We do ship COPYING in the zip files... |
| 15:25:55 | amiconn | Isn't the gpl included in the manuals? I remember that this was the case with the old manuals... |
| 15:26:07 | linuxstb | I was just thinking the same... |
| 15:26:33 | rasher | Hm, the gfdl is |
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| 15:28:11 | bluebrother | in fact I already thought about adding the GPL itself to the manual. We have the GFDL, why not also add the GPL? |
| 15:29:10 | bluebrother | That should also make that issue clear, especially if we add a small paragraph that stated the manual to be gfdl and Rockbox itself gpl |
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| 15:36:02 | hsaliak | thanks linuxstb i have loaded rockbox onto my ipod nano from netbsd |
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| 15:36:22 | szyewei | q |
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| 15:38:51 | linuxstb | What happened to the old (2.5) manual? The word "manual" on the download page in this sentence "We have a very nice manual written by Christi Scarborough." is a link to the (new) RockboxManual wiki page, with no mention of the old version. |
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| 15:40:25 | n1s | linuxstb: was there ever a 2.5 manual released? |
| 15:40:38 | bluebrother | I think the old manual was 2.4 only. |
| 15:40:49 | bluebrother | but I suggested putting that to the download page as well |
| 15:40:49 | linuxstb | Maybe not, maybe 2.4 was the last... But in any case, the old manual seems to have vanished. |
| 15:41:11 | n1s | www.rockbox.org/manual/manual.pdf is for 2.1 |
| 15:41:16 | bluebrother | as the current "new" manual is quite different to the old version 2.5 |
| 15:41:54 | n1s | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.pdf |
| 15:42:06 | linuxstb | There are lots of links to RockboxManual, telling people there are manuals for specific releases there... |
| 15:42:22 | linuxstb | So maybe just add an "Old manuals" download section on that page. |
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| 15:43:38 | bluebrother | IMO having the old manual on the download page (which covers the latest release) would be good. |
| 15:44:16 | linuxstb | Although it seems there wasn't a 2.5 manual... |
| 15:45:31 | * | bluebrother is out for a while |
| 15:47:01 | Bagder | looks like barrywardell is coming closer to working dual-boot on the h10 |
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| 15:47:52 | barrywardell | yup, I have it working now :) |
| 15:48:05 | Bagder | that's very nice news indeed |
| 15:49:51 | barrywardell | so now it works both on Sansa and on H10 :) It would be good to know if the changes to crt0-pp.S work for the iPods too |
| 15:50:18 | linuxstb | What did you need to do? |
| 15:53:34 | barrywardell | http://pastebin.ca/266901 |
| 15:53:45 | barrywardell | that's the version for a bootloader written by dan_a |
| 15:54:18 | barrywardell | http://pastebin.ca/266949 |
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| 15:54:29 | barrywardell | and there's a version for a normal build |
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| 15:56:15 | barrywardell | it just makes sure only the CPU clears the BSS, gives the cpu and cop separate stacks, makes the BL run from IRAM so it's not overwriting in SDRAM and flushing the cache as appropriate |
| 15:56:20 | barrywardell | i think |
| 15:57:17 | linuxstb | That should all be fine on the ipod. The BL is already copied to IRAM, and I can't see how flushing the cache could hurt. |
| 15:57:24 | preglow | doesn't sound it differs too much from what we already do |
| 15:57:28 | preglow | yes |
| 15:57:44 | linuxstb | s/could/will not/ ... |
| 15:58:13 | linuxstb | (ignore that s//....) |
| 15:58:15 | preglow | hahaha |
| 15:59:00 | * | linuxstb heads towards the machine generating black liquid |
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| 16:00:04 | Bagder | yeah, a large stout clears your head ;-) |
| 16:00:42 | barrywardell | it's not all that different |
| 16:01:01 | preglow | hahahah |
| 16:01:21 | * | Bagder goes away to cook lasagna |
| 16:01:51 | * | preglow tries forgetting about stouts as quickly as he can |
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| 16:03:01 | half_dead | hello |
| 16:03:12 | half_dead | any one alive in here |
| 16:03:22 | Genre9mp3 | no... we are all dead |
| 16:03:47 | Genre9mp3 | you are the only one half_dead ;) |
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| 16:04:52 | petur | jhMikeS: awake? |
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| 16:06:30 | half_dead | hehe |
| 16:06:45 | half_dead | can some one help me finding out th ehitachi default hd password |
| 16:07:38 | half_dead | while i search and try out i came onur web site |
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| 16:09:23 | Genre9mp3 | petur: forehead seems that came here for a revenge!!! :P |
| 16:09:41 | petur | half_alive: http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html |
| 16:09:42 | preglow | would anyone happen to know if 'inline' also implies 'static' for a function? |
| 16:09:54 | amiconn | preglow: No it doesn't |
| 16:09:59 | preglow | amiconn: thought so, thanks |
| 16:11:28 | preglow | amiconn: would you also happen to know what is the correct order of keywords? static inline or inline static? |
| 16:11:43 | preglow | doesn't look like it matters for gcc |
| 16:11:50 | amiconn | Shouldn't matter |
| 16:12:18 | half_dead | help |
| 16:12:19 | amiconn | (but for some reason I would always write static inline) |
| 16:12:30 | petur | half_dead: http://www.rockbox.org/lock.html |
| 16:12:40 | half_dead | k |
| 16:12:41 | half_dead | let me check there |
| 16:12:50 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, me too, inline static looks weird for some reason i can't quite explain |
| 16:13:07 | half_dead | i tryed that already |
| 16:13:16 | petur | half_dead: 'The password is all spaces' |
| 16:13:16 | preglow | probably just sounds better ;) |
| 16:13:34 | half_dead | all i know is it high protected and i tryed every pass out which i do set none of em works :(( |
| 16:13:52 | half_dead | so think maybe default master pass from hitachi could help |
| 16:15:00 | petur | no idea, sorry |
| 16:15:16 | half_dead | In High security mode, you can unlock the disk with either the user or master password, using the "SECURITY UNLOCK DEVICE" ATA command. There is an attempt limit, normally set to 5, after which you must power cycle or hard-reset the disk before you can attempt again. |
| 16:15:27 | half_dead | how do i use the ata cmd´s` |
| 16:15:54 | half_dead | and how do i hard rest it ?? |
| 16:16:21 | * | forehead slaps petur |
| 16:16:36 | preglow | hahaha |
| 16:16:39 | Genre9mp3 | hehe |
| 16:16:42 | * | petur didn't see that one coming |
| 16:17:30 | Genre9mp3 | forehead's reveng-a! |
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| 16:18:48 | petur | Genre9mp3: "Toshiba Gigabeat brunch" ? |
| 16:18:58 | petur | feeling hungry? |
| 16:19:12 | amiconn | Mjamm :) |
| 16:19:22 | Genre9mp3 | petur: This paragraph isn't written by me actually! :P |
| 16:19:28 | barrywardell | Bagder, linuxstb: what do you think about splitting crt0-pp.S into separate bootloader and non-bootloader files? There are only a few lines not ifdef'ed in the current version (and they're mostly the lines that had to be rearranged. |
| 16:19:44 | Genre9mp3 | petur: Also, the sub-headings aren't mine, too |
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| 16:23:29 | preglow | barrywardell: as long as it leads to very little code duplication, at least it's fine by me |
| 16:23:40 | half_dead | can any one help ??? |
| 16:23:46 | half_dead | finding out default pass ? |
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| 16:28:00 | barrywardell | i'll try to combine the two files I have again and see how it looks. |
| 16:28:01 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I'm in favour as well. I especially #ifdefs with a lot of code inside them (i.e. more than a few lines). |
| 16:28:10 | linuxstb | ^especially dislike |
| 16:28:16 | * | linuxstb needs more stout |
| 16:28:46 | barrywardell | i would prefer separate files two. there will be some code duplication, but hopefully not much |
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| 16:28:55 | half_dead | A value of 0xFFFE means the Master password is unchanged. |
| 16:29:07 | half_dead | nice so far |
| 16:29:12 | half_dead | mine is there to |
| 16:29:21 | half_dead | i need default pass |
| 16:29:34 | half_dead | 3 month search till i came here |
| 16:29:36 | half_dead | help |
| 16:29:43 | linuxstb | Also, do we need those STUB tests in crt0-pp ? Isn't that just for the iFP gdb builds? |
| 16:30:40 | barrywardell | i was wondering about that. and also when is the DEBUG stuff used? |
| 16:31:08 | linuxstb | half_dead: Locked disks haven't been a Rockbox issue for about 3 or 4 years I think - which is why you're not getting much help... |
| 16:31:40 | half_dead | :( |
| 16:31:44 | half_dead | can u do ?? |
| 16:32:05 | linuxstb | No, I've no idea... But hang around, maybe someone will appear who can help. |
| 16:32:18 | half_dead | aight |
| 16:33:59 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Again, probably only on the iFP debug builds. |
| 16:34:52 | barrywardell | the iFP doesn't use a PP chip, does it? |
| 16:34:59 | linuxstb | No, a different ARM. |
| 16:35:31 | linuxstb | "PNX0101" |
| 16:40:49 | markun | linuxstb: I would like to generalise the DAC drivers a bit. I would like to call the functions dac_* because codec_* might be a bit confusing although it is more correct. |
| 16:40:52 | markun | what do you think? |
| 16:41:17 | linuxstb | They are also ADCs... |
| 16:41:25 | markun | yes, I know |
| 16:41:33 | markun | well, not all of them |
| 16:41:58 | amiconn | adac ;) |
| 16:42:02 | linuxstb | I remember having this conversation before and I think someone suggested audiohw_ |
| 16:42:13 | markun | ok, I'll go with that |
| 16:42:32 | linuxstb | But yes, I agree with the idea, and also agree codec_ is confusing. |
| 16:42:34 | amiconn | (German automobile club) |
| 16:42:52 | markun | amiconn: ah yes :) |
| 16:44:11 | amiconn | But yes, codec is confusing and dac is incorrect, hmm... |
| 16:45:20 | markun | and just audio_ is not very specific |
| 16:45:54 | linuxstb | hwcodec? |
| 16:46:13 | barrywardell | linuxstb: DEBUG builds don't even compile for H10 and iPod. and STUB builds are only an option for iFP |
| 16:46:23 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Yes, that's what I thought. |
| 16:46:37 | markun | linuxstb: might confuse people with the MAS, don't you think? |
| 16:46:58 | linuxstb | Couldn't we use the same name for MAS functions? |
| 16:47:01 | amiconn | audiocodec_ , but that's pretty long... |
| 16:47:30 | linuxstb | markun: Sorry, you meant confusion with HWCODEC/SWCODEC... |
| 16:47:34 | half_dead | Police kill N.C. student accused in Playstation 3 robbery |
| 16:47:37 | markun | yes |
| 16:47:50 | half_dead | http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/local/16160745.htm |
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| 16:48:51 | markun | I'll just start. Can always do a search and replace in the patch |
| 16:50:46 | markun | still no audio on the Gigabeat btw :( |
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| 16:53:47 | preglow | any clues? |
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| 16:54:50 | linuxstb | markun: What's the status apart from audio playback? |
| 16:55:19 | markun | preglow: not really, but maybe just something stupid I overlooked. someone else will work on it this week. |
| 16:55:50 | * | preglow looks forward to the next gentlemen mail :) |
| 16:56:16 | * | Genre9mp3 wonders about markuns test mp3 |
| 16:56:21 | linuxstb | Are you implementing audio in a similar way to the PP targets? i.e. with a FIQ? |
| 16:56:38 | markun | linuxstb: buttons, backlight, power management, plugins all work very nice |
| 16:56:56 | linuxstb | Tried mpegplayer? |
| 16:56:57 | preglow | markun: how much is commited? |
| 16:56:59 | markun | we have some problems with USB but they are almost fixed |
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| 16:57:30 | markun | linuxstb: it gives me a data abort when I play a file > 9MB and just freezes after the 1st frame for smaller files. |
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| 16:57:45 | markun | We need to slow down the gameboy emu a bit :) |
| 16:57:59 | preglow | haha, i forgot about the ridculously fast cpu |
| 16:58:01 | preglow | i want one :> |
| 16:58:11 | markun | perhaps a linear scaling will fix that :) |
| 16:58:45 | markun | preglow: well, it's not too fast, but there are some things to improve |
| 16:59:46 | Genre9mp3 | I suppose rockboy runs realtime on the Gigabeat? |
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| 17:00:54 | linuxstb | Does the gigabeat have IRAM? |
| 17:01:55 | markun | yes, 4KB :) |
| 17:02:02 | markun | pretty useless |
| 17:02:12 | preglow | but it does have a cache, yes? |
| 17:02:19 | preglow | have you tested decoding speed yet? |
| 17:02:23 | markun | but enabling the cache made the gigabeat about 1000x faster |
| 17:02:55 | markun | preglow: no, trying to play a song just freezes rockbox |
| 17:03:00 | linuxstb | You could test the mp3/wavpack encoders (if they're still there). |
| 17:03:11 | markun | yes, I will |
| 17:03:11 | preglow | would be very interesting... |
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| 17:08:07 | markun | wav2wv is about 490% realtime. I'll test on my iriver. |
| 17:08:09 | * | forehead slaps petur again |
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| 17:08:19 | petur | hey |
| 17:08:26 | Gnelik | :) |
| 17:08:27 | markun | :) |
| 17:08:40 | Gnelik | kick and run |
| 17:09:21 | Gnelik | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7561.msg59302#msg59302 can anyone help me to potr it, i am trying to do this a whole day!!! |
| 17:09:52 | preglow | petur: gotta start kicking forehead |
| 17:10:11 | preglow | markun: well, that's decent... |
| 17:10:19 | preglow | markun: what clock do you run at now? |
| 17:10:30 | markun | 296MHz |
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| 17:10:49 | petur | preglow: nah, I think I'll have some fine beer tonight :p |
| 17:11:12 | markun | iriver gives about 195% realtime |
| 17:11:36 | preglow | so will i, and i've got a bottle of very nice chocolate stout waiting for consumption |
| 17:11:53 | preglow | markun: definitely decent |
| 17:12:09 | * | petur doesn't like those special fuit and chocolat beers |
| 17:12:22 | preglow | i think arm performs worse at wavpack encoding than coldfire |
| 17:12:30 | markun | a good thing the ipods are so slow. With only gigabeats noone would work on ARM optimisations.. |
| 17:13:03 | linuxstb | I hope you're only going to clock it at 75MHz - it's unfair otherwise. |
| 17:13:04 | petur | markun: you know of any shop selling F60? |
| 17:13:13 | preglow | petur: it's around 10% and doesn't really taste much chocolate, heh |
| 17:13:24 | preglow | it does however taste great |
| 17:13:29 | markun | linuxstb: and make a turbo_boost() function? |
| 17:13:42 | preglow | several boost levels! |
| 17:14:40 | markun | almost every question I see on mygigabeat I want to answer with "just wait for rockbox, it will fix this" |
| 17:14:46 | linuxstb | Does the Toshiba firmware do anything that needs such a CPU? |
| 17:15:00 | markun | It has flashing dots in the WPS! |
| 17:15:03 | zylche | send you details to the fbi? |
| 17:15:31 | markun | linuxstb: but no, nothing they do needs a fast CPU |
| 17:15:44 | markun | besides running linux |
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| 17:15:57 | linuxstb | And nothing Rockbox does needs it either... (yet) |
| 17:16:11 | zylche | except extreme gaming :P |
| 17:17:19 | Genre9mp3 | video playback would be an "easy" task on Gigabeat, though |
| 17:19:40 | markun | Doom froze after "initialising graphics engine" but I didn't debug |
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| 17:29:31 | PaulPosition | I've seen a few builds using a so-called 'colorised-sudoku' patch/diff.. Of course, it's not on flyspray.. anyone ever seen that somewhere? |
| 17:30:36 | petur | checked MR? |
| 17:30:51 | petur | or our own forum? |
| 17:31:53 | PaulPosition | Yeah,. but no such luck. It's not bad though, will force me to go check in the source and see if it's trivial (or not) to do it.. |
| 17:31:57 | linuxstb | I thought amiconn (and/or pixelma) made such a patch? |
| 17:32:27 | linuxstb | I remember testing such a build a while ago. |
| 17:32:40 | pixelma | well I made coloured graphics for it - I just don't remember how "open" that became |
| 17:33:02 | PaulPosition | It's said to be Ashen from MR, but seems he hasn't been logging there for a month, and there's no mention of it on their forums. |
| 17:33:21 | linuxstb | Possibly a patch made independently from pixelma's then. |
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| 17:33:42 | PaulPosition | Ahh, might well be. |
| 17:34:27 | pixelma | linuxstb: amiconn asked you about it here - it wasn't put elsewhere |
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| 17:37:35 | PaulPosition | pixelma - I'm looking at getting a board where I can see the cells (the grid), as right now I get only one big blank square. I guess it shouldn't be too hard even for a newb.. (well, one could hope!) |
| 17:41:21 | pixelma | sorry.. what did you do and what do you want to do? |
| 17:41:47 | PaulPosition | pixelma - nevermind :) |
| 17:42:00 | PaulPosition | was more like thinking aloud |
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| 17:46:52 | linuxstb | PaulPosition: But anyway, whoever distributes those builds should be making the source available... |
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| 17:55:45 | petur | pondlife: are there known seeking bugs? |
| 17:56:19 | pondlife | AFAIK, only when seeking near the end of a track, and the decoder has moved onto the next track. |
| 17:56:30 | pondlife | But I may be out of date |
| 17:56:39 | petur | in that case I found a new one |
| 17:56:55 | pondlife | ? |
| 17:56:58 | Gnelik | Do ARM support'sfloating point ariphmetics? |
| 17:58:15 | linuxstb | The ARMs in the currently support Rockbox players don't. |
| 17:58:22 | linuxstb | ^supported |
| 17:58:55 | linuxstb | I mean there is no hardware support, but gcc will generate software floating-point code for you. |
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| 18:00:32 | Pikcc | rockbox won't let me shut down my 4g ipod while it's charging, it stays booted up the entire time. any way around it? |
| 18:01:04 | petur | pondlife: in a large WAV (1GB but shouldn't be related) somewhere in the middle playing, I just held 'left' to seek back 10 seconds in the file. Instead of resuming playback it continued quite a bit further in the file. Trying to seek back again seemed to do nothing at all. At one point it even froze. |
| 18:01:31 | petur | I had it several times so it should be fairly reproducable |
| 18:01:56 | linuxstb | Pikcc: That's a hardware feature. It needs to be on to charge. |
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| 18:02:21 | Slasheri | hehe, that's not even funny, LinusN flashed back my iriver with just the original iriver fw without rockbox bootloader at all :D |
| 18:02:38 | petur | rofl |
| 18:03:09 | Pikcc | Ah. |
| 18:03:15 | Pikcc | Will it shut down when fully charged? |
| 18:03:33 | linuxstb | No. |
| 18:04:22 | pondlife | petur: Sounds like an overflow? Maybe try an old version...? Pop it on Flyspray either way... |
| 18:04:58 | petur | sure |
| 18:05:01 | pondlife | I just booted H340 RetailOS and all my LCD settings were odd. Weird colours etc, nothing you can set up intentonally. |
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| 18:05:11 | petur | known issue |
| 18:05:19 | pondlife | Ah, how come? |
| 18:05:31 | petur | rockbox corrupts the eeprom on h3x0 |
| 18:05:42 | pondlife | I'm testing JDGordon's patches, not likely to be that then. |
| 18:05:43 | pondlife | ? |
| 18:05:53 | petur | I even have a good copy on my webspace to hand out to people who get stuck |
| 18:06:18 | pondlife | I just reset defaults and it seemed ok. Luckily I could read the screen I guess. |
| 18:06:18 | petur | sometimes it's so bad that iriver fw refuses to boot |
| 18:06:39 | Lear | What is the eeprom used for (by Rockbox)? I mean, Rockbox can't just do that by accident, right? |
| 18:06:47 | petur | nothing atm |
| 18:06:49 | pondlife | Do we have EEPROM writing code at all? Or is it a sideeffect. |
| 18:07:07 | petur | we do have now but the issue was there before |
| 18:07:19 | pondlife | OK, so very likely a side effect of some other i/o. |
| 18:07:28 | Lear | There's code for the H1x0 series at least, don't know if it is enabled by default... |
| 18:07:38 | petur | the only reason h3x0 has eeprom writing code was to help out somebody who got stuck |
| 18:07:54 | amiconn | Slasheri: around? |
| 18:08:21 | petur | the h3x0 eeprom write code is in the debug menu at the bottom and just writes back a whole file |
| 18:08:22 | amiconn | zylche: asquare? ;P |
| 18:08:32 | zylche | :P |
| 18:08:47 | petur | but the eeprom and pcf share the i2c lines |
| 18:09:51 | amiconn | petur: Thinking about the mysterious eeprom corruption bug? |
| 18:10:10 | * | amiconn has no idea what his original H300 fw does. |
| 18:10:20 | amiconn | Didn't use it for months... |
| 18:10:31 | petur | amiconn: [18:05] <pondlife> I just booted H340 RetailOS and all my LCD settings were odd. Weird colours etc, nothing you can set up intentonally. |
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| 18:11:15 | * | petur enters it by accident if he forgets to power on before inserting charger |
| 18:11:49 | petur | and (don't dare to mention it) usbotg |
| 18:12:20 | petur | gtg - back later |
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| 18:13:32 | pixelma | pondlife: I am testing JdGordon's menu settings patch also on my Ondio and it seems like something prevents writing playlist (and resume position, settings changes) during rebuffer so everything is lost when the batteries went flat before I return to file browser - is there any possibility that you can test whether it is only a problem on Ondio? |
| 18:17:27 | pondlife | Do you mean if you edit a playlist? |
| 18:18:35 | Slasheri | amiconn: yes |
| 18:19:00 | Slasheri | amiconn: btw, do you think i should commit the rom support for h1xx (just got the unit back, should be working soon)? |
| 18:19:08 | pondlife | I also went into my OF by pluggin in the charger... The charging screen was in very odd colours!! |
| 18:19:11 | amiconn | Slasheri: I was thinking a bit more about the virtual sector stuff |
| 18:19:38 | amiconn | Now I think that implementing it without increased sector buffers is not only possible, but in fact nearly trivial... |
| 18:19:45 | pixelma | pondlife: no... that happens during normal playback (so resume position won't be right and settings a changed while music was playing) |
| 18:20:02 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, that sounds great |
| 18:20:19 | amiconn | We just need to calculate secmult in fat_mount, and then multiply it into the cluster size and a few other size/position values |
| 18:20:25 | amiconn | After that we can forget about it... |
| 18:20:30 | pondlife | pixelma: I haven't noticed that, but may not have tried. Will check. |
| 18:20:41 | Slasheri | hmm.. might be working |
| 18:21:33 | amiconn | I will set up a test disk with large virtual sectors (with linux) and try my idea |
| 18:21:43 | amiconn | Then I'll provide a patch for you to test :) |
| 18:21:47 | Slasheri | nice :) |
| 18:21:50 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 18:22:16 | amiconn | Well, you're the only "full dev" (to say so) with a G5.5 ... |
| 18:22:49 | * | linuxstb repeats his call for a 5.5g owner with Windows to test the latest ipodpatcher |
| 18:23:11 | Slasheri | linuxstb: i might be able to test that soon |
| 18:23:21 | amiconn | Does anyone know how to fetch a certain state from cvs, with multiple files but not all? |
| 18:23:23 | Slasheri | now i am home and have one windows machine too |
| 18:23:51 | amiconn | Hmm, probably just cvs up to a sticky date in one working copy and then move the files over... |
| 18:23:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: just fetch the individual single files? |
| 18:24:02 | Slasheri | from a certain date |
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| 18:30:39 | Slasheri | hmm.. iriver fw says it's H115 version but unit is H140.. |
| 18:30:56 | Slasheri | maybe linus accidentally flashed the H110 firmware.. |
| 18:31:10 | Slasheri | at least firmware upgrade doesn't seem to work |
| 18:32:06 | n1s | isn't the hex called something different for h110/115? |
| 18:32:41 | Slasheri | yes.. just wondering if it's enough to rename the hex file from ihp_120.hex to ihp_110.hex |
| 18:33:06 | n1s | try it ;-) |
| 18:33:18 | Slasheri | hmm, probably not.. need to patch the h120 bootloader with h110 hex file |
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| 18:37:55 | barrywardell | Slasheri: the usb click of death fix you did for the iPod would be useful on H10 too. I just added ata_sleepnow() to usb_enable(). is that right? |
| 18:37:57 | amiconn | Can't you flash an unpatched ihp_120.hex before? |
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| 18:38:29 | Slasheri | barrywardell: ah, sounds correct. Just add sleep(HZ*2); before the poweroff too |
| 18:38:35 | Slasheri | amiconn: how? |
| 18:38:41 | * | n1s wonders why we build one manual for h110/115 and one for 120/140 when they're the same... |
| 18:38:57 | amiconn | Slasheri: By renaming it to ihp_110.hex ? |
| 18:39:02 | Slasheri | i don't think i can flash h120 firmware when the fw thinks it's h110.. |
| 18:39:13 | Slasheri | but there is the model flag? |
| 18:39:16 | Slasheri | well, i will try |
| 18:39:25 | amiconn | Is there? I don't know |
| 18:39:39 | Slasheri | i think i saw that in the firmware patcher utility.. |
| 18:39:42 | amiconn | Best would be to ask LinusN probably... |
| 18:40:38 | Slasheri | Linus just wanted some challenge so i could brick it again ;D |
| 18:45:27 | barrywardell | ok, thanks Slasheri |
| 18:45:28 | pondlife | pixelma: Just tried a skip, skip, shutdown during playback with the settings patch and it remembered my place perfectly. Does that cover your case? |
| 18:45:32 | Slasheri | amiconn: yep, didn't work. There seems to be a model flag |
| 18:45:57 | preglow | so he's given your h140 a new personality, how nice! |
| 18:46:03 | bluebrother | n1s: those manuals are the same. |
| 18:46:04 | Slasheri | :D |
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| 18:46:22 | Slasheri | preglow: or he wanted to be sure i won't brick it again -> no chances to install rockbox ;) |
| 18:46:37 | n1s | bluebrother: yes that's what i meant but why do we build two of them? (on the manual page) |
| 18:46:38 | Slasheri | well.. i will now try patching the firmware "incorrectly" and flashing that |
| 18:46:41 | bluebrother | just look at the links |
| 18:46:45 | amiconn | The h140 thinking to be a h115 shouldn't cause major problems, but the optical in/out won't work properly |
| 18:46:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: optical out seems to be always on |
| 18:47:01 | bluebrother | there are only two links (to the same file) as it's the same table as for the daily builds |
| 18:47:02 | Slasheri | at least the led is |
| 18:47:10 | n1s | oh so we have two links nex to each other pointing at the same thing :-) |
| 18:47:12 | amiconn | It should be on when you set it to off and vice versa |
| 18:47:19 | Slasheri | ah, hehe |
| 18:47:54 | bluebrother | exactly ;-) Easier than dealing with user complaints because the manuals are the same but the builds different ... |
| 18:48:04 | pixelma | pondlife: not exactly I guess - with stopping playback and shutdown there's no problem - but when the unit shuts itself off because of low battery |
| 18:48:07 | amiconn | (and because of that it probablywon't work at all. The led will be on when you set it to off, but the firmware thinks it's off and doesn't send data) |
| 18:48:12 | lowlight | pondlife: ever get a chance to look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6317? The bug was identified, but I don't know the best solution. |
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| 18:49:18 | pixelma | pondlife: although it had chances to write it during rebuffering |
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| 18:50:31 | Slasheri | amiconn: ok, now trying to flash h110 hex with h120 bootloader |
| 18:50:59 | Slasheri | at least it does something now :) |
| 18:51:35 | Slasheri | amiconn: worked, i have rockbox again o/ |
| 18:52:04 | Slasheri | now iriver feels so much better than ipod.. |
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| 18:54:29 | lowlight | I've been thinking that maybe playback be easier of the there wasn't a separate codec thread, but rather, the playback engine just calls a function like codec_decode(buf) whenever it needs more data? |
| 18:55:06 | pondlife | lowlight: If we can simplify it then yes, that would be very good |
| 18:55:24 | pondlife | Sorry, haven't actually looked at playback.c in about a month now :( |
| 18:56:01 | Slasheri | lowlight: that sounds rather complex.. how codec could handle all events etc. |
| 18:56:13 | * | pondlife thinks there must be a good reason for a seperate codec thread. |
| 18:56:39 | pondlife | I assume the events would be handled by the audio thread only.. |
| 18:57:02 | Slasheri | lowlight: hmm, ah.. now i see what you mean |
| 18:57:07 | lowlight | Slasheri: how more complex...let the playback engine handle all events |
| 18:57:17 | pondlife | Voice? |
| 18:57:28 | Slasheri | still, buffering needs to be done simultaneously with decoding |
| 18:57:42 | Slasheri | and that is the main thing for audio thread to do.. |
| 18:58:10 | pondlife | Maybe the split should be buffering/playback...? |
| 18:58:12 | lowlight | where's your new buffering api? |
| 18:58:33 | Slasheri | lowlight: haven't had time for that.. |
| 18:58:54 | Slasheri | and playback engine seems to have stabilized a bit |
| 18:58:54 | pixelma | pondlife: I don't know but maybe the low battery handling that got commited a while ago prevents such a sudden shutdown on H300 now |
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| 18:59:57 | lowlight | I was thinking that video could also use the playback engine then too...playback would just push some data to the video codec and direct it to the lcd instead of the dsp |
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| 19:00:21 | pondlife | pixelma: I've never risked a low battery situation really. I don't know if I'd expect it to save in such a situation, hard disk writing should be avoided if you're about to die. |
| 19:01:35 | pondlife | lowlight: I like the idea, but speak to lostlogic before doing much on it! I'm sure there must be a reason we didn't do this before. |
| 19:02:20 | pixelma | well I meant that it didn't save during all the rebuffer periods before - but maybe there's no way to test for you because it will always save before a shutdown |
| 19:03:25 | lowlight | pondlife: I'm not doing much more than thinking :) |
| 19:03:28 | amiconn | pondlife: There's an easy way to test sudden shutdown on iriver: just use the reset button |
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| 19:05:14 | lowlight | amiconn: how does playback work for archos...does the playback engine just "push" data to the decoder? |
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| 19:05:36 | pondlife | One reset later - I confirm it does not save track or position!#] |
| 19:05:47 | amiconn | The MAS signals that it needs data via an interrupt |
| 19:06:02 | pondlife | pixelma: Do you want me to update Flyspray, or have you? |
| 19:06:02 | amiconn | The isr enabled or disables the dma accordingly |
| 19:06:12 | thomasg | I plan to buy a iAudio X5L DAP. If I install rockbox on it, will I miss the BBE features? And how's the sound of rockbox in comparison to the original fw? |
| 19:06:20 | amiconn | The end-of-dma interrupt fetches the next chunk |
| 19:06:57 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, can i "jmp %d0" or does it need to be "jmp %a0" register? |
| 19:06:57 | pixelma | pondlife: haven't so far - I guess it would be easier for you to explain it (I'm not very good at it today) |
| 19:07:24 | pondlife | I will do now |
| 19:07:44 | pixelma | thanks :) |
| 19:08:21 | pondlife | Hmm, I may not have had any rebuffering... probably didn't. actually.. |
| 19:08:26 | pondlife | I'll just retest |
| 19:08:30 | lowlight | markun: is the gigabeat f10 supported in your port? |
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| 19:09:22 | * | amiconn dissects his recorder to put his test HDD in |
| 19:09:23 | pondlife | I'm also getting 100% boost.. |
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| 19:11:22 | XavierGr | w00t for Slasheri that finally has his H140 working! :D |
| 19:11:38 | XavierGr | Slasheri: You must write a book on your H140 flashing adventures :P |
| 19:11:42 | Slasheri | XavierGr: yep, now i try to be more careful not to brick it again :D |
| 19:11:48 | Slasheri | hehe :D |
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| 19:13:45 | pondlife | Anyone else testing the settings patch on a target with CPU boost? I find that just starting up leaves CPU boosted,... now to try an unpatched CVS build. |
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| 19:14:29 | preglow | Slasheri: btw, now that you've got an ipod, do you have any ideas on how to improve ui handling? |
| 19:14:47 | Slasheri | preglow: yes, i have two ideas in mind |
| 19:15:00 | Slasheri | preglow: at first need to get the COP working |
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| 19:15:45 | Slasheri | and after that UI would have the highest priority on its own core, and when there are multiple wheel events in queue, cpu would get boosted |
| 19:17:06 | Slasheri | preglow: and i seem to get a lot of data aborts and other kind of problems |
| 19:17:16 | Slasheri | problems i never had with iriver |
| 19:18:03 | preglow | Slasheri: it's no secret that the ipod still lags somewhat behind in stability, no |
| 19:18:13 | preglow | Slasheri: even the cpu freq switching is giving us headaches like that |
| 19:18:21 | Slasheri | hehe, true |
| 19:18:33 | Slasheri | btw, is there a key combination to switch on the morse mode on ipod? |
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| 19:18:41 | Slasheri | using that click wheel for typing is horrible :D |
| 19:18:52 | preglow | Slasheri: i have absolutely no idea, i don't use the keyboard often enough too bother learning morse |
| 19:18:59 | preglow | as a matter of fact, i don't use it at all :> |
| 19:19:24 | Slasheri | i use it for searching with the database |
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| 19:20:04 | preglow | ah, i don't use the database |
| 19:20:09 | Slasheri | and in general, clickwheel needs serious improvements |
| 19:20:16 | preglow | indeed, no secrets |
| 19:20:25 | Slasheri | it should react to speed of motion, not the amount |
| 19:20:29 | preglow | i'd like some acceleration |
| 19:20:51 | amiconn | Slasheri: Afaik, morse mode is only enabled for irivers |
| 19:20:52 | preglow | i think it should work like it does in retailos |
| 19:20:56 | preglow | it's the one thing apple does right |
| 19:21:00 | Slasheri | amiconn: ah, ok |
| 19:21:17 | Slasheri | hehe, i didn't use the retailos at all.. |
| 19:21:19 | amiconn | Imho it should be there for all targets |
| 19:21:34 | Slasheri | just booted it and patched rockbox.. :) |
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| 19:21:47 | * | amiconn also didn't use apple retailos on his mini G2 :) |
| 19:21:50 | preglow | it should be there for all targets |
| 19:21:59 | preglow | if i were to use the keyboard, i'd learn morse code for sure |
| 19:22:17 | amiconn | Yes, even though it will probably also break rombox |
| 19:22:39 | amiconn | This is a real feature |
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| 19:22:42 | preglow | i used retailos a tiny bit before rockbox ran on ipods |
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| 19:23:08 | preglow | amiconn: do you have a list of specific code that can be optimised for size? |
| 19:23:40 | amiconn | I think there are many places which could benefit from optimisation |
| 19:23:42 | Slasheri | and now i got the whitenoise and all kind of cripplecracks again |
| 19:23:50 | Slasheri | need to reboot ipod to get rid of it |
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| 19:23:56 | preglow | well, sure, but a list would be cool |
| 19:23:59 | preglow | Slasheri: never got that |
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| 19:24:09 | amiconn | Bookmarking is one of the first that come to mind |
| 19:24:12 | Slasheri | preglow: i have got that everyday :/ |
| 19:24:16 | preglow | Slasheri: how/when? |
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| 19:24:34 | Slasheri | hmm, in fact might be related to crossfade |
| 19:24:40 | preglow | ahh, that might explain it |
| 19:24:40 | preglow | i never use that |
| 19:24:47 | Slasheri | i got it almost always after skipping tracks |
| 19:24:55 | * | preglow uses perhaps 1% of rockbox, heh |
| 19:24:59 | Slasheri | :D |
| 19:25:04 | amiconn | Tagcache (ahem, database) might be another, at least Slasheri said so iirc |
| 19:25:17 | preglow | most of my own code that i run is probably codec based |
| 19:25:46 | preglow | the code i like to deal with isn't even included in rombox |
| 19:25:55 | amiconn | Sure? |
| 19:26:04 | amiconn | The resampler is, on H1x0 |
| 19:26:29 | amiconn | But that one won't break any time soon |
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| 19:26:54 | preglow | ah, i don't think of the h1x0 one as rombox |
| 19:26:55 | * | amiconn suddenly wants 512KB ROMs ... |
| 19:27:11 | Gnelik | double i; |
| 19:27:11 | Gnelik | i=i+(1/plot.x_mod) |
| 19:27:32 | Gnelik | but it rounds |
| 19:27:49 | amiconn | Try 1.0 instead of 1 |
| 19:28:16 | petur | euh? we don't do float, don't we? |
| 19:28:24 | preglow | then plot.x_mod is an integer |
| 19:28:33 | preglow | petur: i think it can be excused in a function plotter |
| 19:28:43 | amiconn | petur: Not in the core. Plugins can (but preferably shouldn't) |
| 19:28:46 | petur | ah well |
| 19:28:46 | preglow | doing that in fixed point is a bloody nightmare |
| 19:29:35 | Gnelik | amiconn: Tnx. It works. |
| 19:30:13 | Gnelik | Is float do much speed dec. |
| 19:30:23 | preglow | Gnelik: oh boy, yes |
| 19:30:33 | preglow | Gnelik: but unless you're insane, you don't have much of a choice |
| 19:30:46 | Gnelik | In %? |
| 19:30:53 | preglow | many thousand, probably |
| 19:31:07 | Gnelik | ho ho |
| 19:31:09 | preglow | floating point is emulated in software |
| 19:31:18 | Gnelik | i know |
| 19:31:24 | preglow | it's _very_ slow |
| 19:31:38 | preglow | but like i said, for a function plotter, just use it |
| 19:31:43 | Gnelik | but if i need it |
| 19:31:53 | Gnelik | must i implant it myself |
| 19:32:05 | Gnelik | using int? |
| 19:32:10 | preglow | no |
| 19:32:19 | Gnelik | but it won't be to fast alsow |
| 19:32:29 | preglow | but keep in mind that pow/sqrt/etc does not exist |
| 19:32:38 | preglow | you pretty much only get +, -, / and * |
| 19:32:58 | Gnelik | i have downloaded math lib |
| 19:32:59 | amiconn | Doesn't gcc provide a math lib? |
| 19:33:04 | Gnelik | in C |
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| 19:33:20 | preglow | amiconn: probably not impossible, but i don't know if it's built by default |
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| 19:33:37 | amiconn | Perhaps we need a linker option |
| 19:33:39 | Gnelik | it implant all this but i dont know if it will work |
| 19:33:40 | preglow | amiconn: libm is what's supposed to be used anyway, and that's not bundled with gcc |
| 19:33:51 | amiconn | Oh, it's not? |
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| 19:34:26 | * | amiconn didn't dela with such stuff so far |
| 19:34:29 | amiconn | *deal |
| 19:38:44 | preglow | well, i don't think it is |
| 19:38:49 | preglow | i'm not exactly an expert in the field myself |
| 19:38:59 | preglow | the only time i've used libm has been on computers |
| 19:40:13 | amiconn | Slasheri: Using my simple idea shaves off more than 1KB of code on SH1. Now I hope it will work... |
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| 19:49:23 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, interesting |
| 19:50:03 | * | linuxstb spots libm.a in /usr/local/arm-elf/lib/ - so it must be part of either binutils or gcc... |
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| 19:51:01 | * | linuxstb was looking at the wrong ARM compiler and should be ignored |
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| 19:52:12 | amiconn | Wow, rockbox.zip is less than half the size of rockbox-full.zip |
| 19:52:19 | amiconn | (for recorder that is) |
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| 20:00:09 | * | amiconn installs dosfstools |
| 20:01:06 | * | Slasheri verifies bootloader now many times before flashing on iriver :) |
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| 20:02:22 | Slasheri | btw, rockbox logo looks great on black background on ipod |
| 20:03:08 | Slasheri | black ipod, dark screen and blue texts :) |
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| 20:10:26 | amiconn | mkfs.vfat -S 2048 /dev/sdc1 |
| 20:10:28 | amiconn | :) |
| 20:10:40 | amiconn | copying contents... |
| 20:12:03 | jhMikeS | man, wtf is with Cowon. they give a number for obtaining service and then just refer you to the website with an automated message and hang up. bastards. |
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| 20:15:15 | amiconn | W00t! Seems to work at the first try :D |
| 20:15:25 | n1s | :-) |
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| 20:17:48 | bluebrother | amiconn: shouldn't you have used -F 32 also for mkfs.vfat? At least for me this is still required to get FAT32 |
| 20:18:05 | amiconn | Not if the partition is large enough |
| 20:18:13 | amiconn | I use a 10GB disk for testing |
| 20:18:22 | amiconn | (single partition) |
| 20:18:52 | n1s | amiconn: does the larger sectors affect performance? |
| 20:19:10 | amiconn | The way I implemented them now: not at all |
| 20:20:19 | bluebrother | hmm. I once tried that on a large disk and it created FAT16 for me, so I was only able accessing ~2GiB |
| 20:20:39 | amiconn | Once the partition is mounted, everything works with 512 byte physical sectors |
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| 20:20:55 | amiconn | bluebrother: Maybe that was an old mkfs.vfat |
| 20:21:22 | Kasperle | Slasheri: :) i'm using rockbox and the "Black" wps on my black ipod |
| 20:21:42 | xamox | Is there a way to reset my rockbox. For some reason I can copy files to/from my rockbox on my iPod nano, but for some reason when I try to play a song it locks up and reboots. It didn't do this at first and now for some reason it's doing it |
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| 20:24:48 | bluebrother | maybe. I was still under the impression it's still needed. |
| 20:25:13 | bluebrother | xamox: you can reset the settings by enabling the hold switch upon boot |
| 20:25:40 | xamox | bluebrother: alright, thx I'll give it a try. |
| 20:25:40 | rasher | Specifies the type of file allocation tables used (12, 16 or 32 bit). If nothing is specified, mkdosfs will |
| 20:25:43 | rasher | automatically select between 12 and 16 bit, whatever fits better for the filesystem size. 32 bit FAT (FAT32 |
| 20:25:47 | rasher | format) must (still) be selected explicitly if you want it. |
| 20:26:00 | rasher | Sorry about the extra spaces |
| 20:26:33 | xamox | bluebrother: awesome, that fixed it thx! |
| 20:27:01 | rasher | Could be the manpage is inaccurate. Wouldn't be the first time that happened. |
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| 20:27:40 | amiconn_ | rasher: My mkfs.vfat auto-selected fat32... |
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| 20:28:03 | bluebrother | rasher: that was why I was still under the impression it's needed |
| 20:28:22 | rasher | amiconn: Must be smarter than the manpage thinks |
| 20:28:44 | amiconn | I am running debian testing/unstable, up to date |
| 20:29:08 | amiconn | Still not really new: |
| 20:29:11 | rasher | testing or unstable? |
| 20:29:18 | amiconn | A mix |
| 20:29:29 | rasher | I see. |
| 20:29:36 | amiconn | mkfs.vfat -v −−> mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 20:30:29 | amiconn | My man page says the same as yours. |
| 20:30:30 | |[Gino]| | <New question>Does the microphone on the X5 work with Rockbox and can you still record from the line in on the subpack? |
| 20:30:47 | rasher | Newest there is. |
| 20:31:05 | rasher | The Debian packager is also upstream maintainer it seems. |
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| 20:47:12 | bluebrother | strage. I'm just playing a ogg vorbis file and my wps tells it's flac :o |
| 20:48:10 | petur | talk about compression ;) |
| 20:48:29 | rasher | Or a wps that hasn't been updated to the new codec order. |
| 20:48:38 | rasher | (there's a new codec order, right?) |
| 20:48:59 | n1s | yes |
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| 21:01:51 | amiconn | Hehe, windows doesn't like virtual sectors different from physical sectors |
| 21:02:43 | preglow | hahaha |
| 21:02:57 | amiconn | "The disk in drive G isn't formatted" |
| 21:03:15 | amiconn | It is formatted, and linux doesn't have problems reading / writing it |
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| 21:04:12 | bluebrother | rasher: that might be the cause. Haven't noticed before ... will check later |
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| 21:10:27 | jhMikeS | petur: the glitch is exactly 41 chunks long so I can see it's related to encoder output OR DMA input. Did you have prerecord on? I'd like to know the exact sample indexes these occurred at. |
| 21:10:52 | petur | pre-rec = 30s |
| 21:11:26 | petur | I'll open the original and hunt for the exact position |
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| 21:11:41 | jhMikeS | That might tell me if it's related to buffer wrapping or what not |
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| 21:12:11 | petur | you saw my last comment in the tracker? |
| 21:12:13 | Cassandra | bagder - you around - I carelessly forgot my CVS password |
| 21:12:17 | unleet | hey Paul. |
| 21:12:19 | petur | heya Cassandra |
| 21:12:23 | * | bluebrother decides to finally leave his working desk at uni |
| 21:12:36 | Cassandra | linuxstb, heya. ;) I was never really gone in spirit.:) |
| 21:12:38 | rasher | Cassandra: Did you get the mail I forwarded to you |
| 21:13:18 | unleet | anybody have a clue why I cant access rockbox settings on my H10 20gb? |
| 21:13:22 | Cassandra | rasher - yeah. |
| 21:13:34 | unleet | i click "rockbox" and it does nothing |
| 21:13:42 | Cassandra | as it happened, I've been playing about with the installer again. |
| 21:13:43 | amiconn | Hi Cassandra :) |
| 21:13:48 | bluebrother | unleet: you never click "rockbox" |
| 21:13:53 | amiconn | Any news from AT&T? |
| 21:13:55 | Cassandra | It's still not what I'd call finished, but it works. |
| 21:14:03 | bluebrother | that's the firmware itself and it will reload rocbox |
| 21:14:05 | unleet | So, that does nothing? |
| 21:14:36 | bluebrother | it reboots (but I don' |
| 21:14:36 | Cassandra | amiconn - nah. They totally ignored the letter. After I spend 5 quid sending it inernational recorded too. :( |
| 21:14:46 | bluebrother | t know if that's still working on h10) |
| 21:14:47 | amiconn | :( |
| 21:14:53 | bluebrother | this is intended behaviour |
| 21:15:00 | unleet | Ok. |
| 21:15:33 | bluebrother | unleet: please have a look at the manual. There is a quick start section which should answer most usual problems / questions |
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| 21:15:49 | jhMikeS | memcpy can take 0 for a size right? |
| 21:16:03 | unleet | Ohh. Very sorry. |
| 21:16:38 | * | bluebrother is in the process of leaving |
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| 21:17:21 | amiconn | Slasheri: Ready to test something? :) |
| 21:17:40 | petur | jhMikeS: do you have enough with one glitch location or what do you need? |
| 21:18:39 | jhMikeS | I know both glitch locations in the sample. Would like to know them from the start of the recording (0 based) |
| 21:18:53 | petur | ok, I get those two |
| 21:18:59 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: You could check the source in firmware/target/coldfire/memcpy-coldfire.S |
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| 21:19:35 | amiconn | Slasheri: amiconn.dyndns.org/fat.diff">http://amiconn.dyndns.org/fat.diff |
| 21:19:37 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: thanks. I'll have to make sure of that since 0 can be passed during record |
| 21:19:47 | Slasheri | amiconn: hehe, testing soon :) ipod just charging (battery totally empty) |
| 21:20:10 | amiconn | I moved the definition of MAX_SECTOR_SIZE to config-ipodvideo.h |
| 21:20:32 | amiconn | disk.c is changed a bit against cvs to try all powers of 2 from 512 to MAX_SECTOR_SIZE |
| 21:21:21 | amiconn | file.c and fat.h are back to before the commit, as is fat.c, with the added changes |
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| 21:21:40 | amiconn | Works like a charm with fat32 on recorder, 2048 byte virtual sector size |
| 21:21:51 | amiconn | Didn't test fat16 yet, but will do |
| 21:21:51 | jhMikeS | petur: and as a reference what's the total length of the recording in samples? |
| 21:22:26 | amiconn | Slasheri: Btw, did you check where the config sector ends up? Shouldn't be a dangerous place, but better check... |
| 21:23:03 | amiconn | Hopefully the config sector will be gone soon (as soon as the remaining problems in JdGordon's patch are fixed) |
| 21:23:23 | petur | just a sec, I'm still figuring out were the glitches are. I can hear them but finding the sample boundary isn't that easy ;) |
| 21:23:40 | jhMikeS | petur: in your clip, the first is at 617672 and the second at 701640 |
| 21:23:56 | unleet | Lol my rockbox is stuck in a plugin |
| 21:24:19 | petur | that won't help, I don't know at what offset I took the clip (was at work in a hurry) |
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| 21:24:43 | petur | unleet: correction: you are stuck in a plugin |
| 21:24:57 | petur | unless it crashed |
| 21:25:13 | * | linuxstb is often stuck in the puzzle plugins |
| 21:25:22 | unleet | None of the buttons are exiting the plugin. I shall reset. |
| 21:25:23 | amiconn | petur: Hmm, is there a tool that can compare 2 files and find the place where the smaller one was cut from the bigger one? |
| 21:25:44 | amiconn | something like strstr() as a tool |
| 21:25:51 | petur | never heard of... |
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| 21:29:17 | Slasheri | amiconn: hmm, looks interesting. but i will test it tomorrow, need to go sleeping soon :/ |
| 21:29:28 | amiconn | Hmm :/ |
| 21:29:32 | linuxstb | Bagder: Can you put http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodpatcher-0.4.zip in http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ and also extract ipodpatcher.exe from the zip file and put that in the same place (replacing the previous version). |
| 21:29:36 | * | amiconn wants rombox on Ondio FM back |
| 21:29:49 | Slasheri | amiconn: well, i can give a quick try to it |
| 21:29:53 | Slasheri | just to see if it works |
| 21:30:09 | Slasheri | but don't have time to do real testing now :/ |
| 21:30:34 | Slasheri | patch applied fine, compiling now |
| 21:31:04 | mick_linux | rasher: no email yet :( |
| 21:31:17 | rasher | mick_linux: It's Cassandra who just joined |
| 21:31:29 | pixelma | unleet: what plugin? (maybe you can find the button mappings in the manual, too - though I have to admit that the H10 manual is a bit incomplete yet) |
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| 21:31:50 | amiconn | Slasheri: I'll do some testing with fat16 as well, both standard and non-standard sector size... |
| 21:32:07 | Lars_G | What woudl you dudes think if I said I'd like to find a coherent way to mash the three views together? (playlist, browser, tag database) |
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| 21:32:47 | linuxstb | Sounds desirable to me. |
| 21:32:49 | * | petur thinks virtual directories again |
| 21:32:58 | markun | I have sound!! |
| 21:33:14 | linuxstb | Real, proper, continuous sound? |
| 21:33:18 | petur | wooooooot |
| 21:33:26 | amiconn | w000t! |
| 21:33:31 | * | linuxstb goes to fridge to celebrate |
| 21:33:31 | markun | white noise, but I used a white noise generator :) |
| 21:34:25 | * | petur checks e-bay again for an F60 |
| 21:34:27 | * | amiconn is listening to music from his 2048-byte-virtual-sector-recorder for quite a while now |
| 21:34:34 | linuxstb | I think you need music playback for a gentlemen (and ladies) email though... |
| 21:34:37 | Lars_G | Btw little question, what is different in a m4b over a m4a file? afaik DRMed files are .m4s right? |
| 21:34:50 | markun | linuxstb: yes, but I was too excited to keep it to myself :) |
| 21:34:54 | linuxstb | :) |
| 21:35:04 | courtc | char *strstr(const char *haystack, const char *needle) { const char *h, *n; do { while (*haystack && *haystack != *needle) ++haystack; if (*haystack) { h = haystack; n = needle; while (*(++n) && *(++h) && *h == *n); if (!*n) return haystack; } } while (*haystack); return 0; } |
| 21:35:12 | * | courtc shrugs |
| 21:35:21 | lowlight | markun: is the F10 the same hw? can the hd be swapped? |
| 21:35:35 | courtc | coded in irc, no warranty. |
| 21:36:04 | mick_linux | rasher: where? nick? |
| 21:36:09 | rasher | mick_linux: Cassandra |
| 21:37:16 | linuxstb | Lars_G: I think m4p is protected, m4b is an audiobook and m4a is normal. I don't know what Apple do differently with m4b files though. |
| 21:37:28 | markun | lowlight: yes, but because it's single platter that max size is limited |
| 21:37:58 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Nod, I'll see if ffmpeg has any docs on the differences, I wonder if we/I can make m3b work on the rockbox |
| 21:38:09 | lowlight | size of the case? |
| 21:38:15 | mick_linux | rasher: oh, duh :) |
| 21:38:27 | * | mick_linux waves to Cassandra |
| 21:38:53 | Lear | Isn't m4b "enchanced" AAC, with bookmarks and such? And m4p is protected? |
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| 21:38:56 | Slasheri | amiconn: works fine :) |
| 21:38:59 | Lars_G | oh Cassandra, I wonder wether it's the singer or the witch |
| 21:39:01 | amiconn | Nice :) |
| 21:39:01 | Slasheri | at least audio plays and so on |
| 21:39:11 | Slasheri | i think you can commit it :) |
| 21:39:21 | Lars_G | Lear: You must be correct, since this m4b comes from a "podcast" with marks in it. |
| 21:39:23 | amiconn | Saving .plylist_control etc should also work |
| 21:39:32 | amiconn | * .playlist_control |
| 21:39:36 | Slasheri | amiconn: yep, works |
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| 21:39:48 | Lars_G | Say |
| 21:39:53 | Lear | Lars_g: Then it should play in Rockbox, as long as it isn't too long... :) |
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| 21:40:12 | amiconn | I added a note for struct bpb (locally), as it no longer holds raw values if bytspersec != 512 |
| 21:40:12 | Slasheri | amiconn: nice that you spot it was trivial to implement ;) |
| 21:40:13 | Lars_G | if i don't get track numbers in the title when I browse by artist but I do when I browse by album, I guess I could fix it on my naviconf.cfg file right? |
| 21:40:20 | Slasheri | i wouldn't have thought that |
| 21:40:35 | Lars_G | Lear: it doesn't it bails with a "codec" error, and I even had to rename it on player for it to be recognized. |
| 21:40:44 | amiconn | I think it's so little code now that all targets can keep it |
| 21:41:08 | amiconn | This way someone could make his rockbox target appear unformatted to windows ;) |
| 21:41:09 | Lear | Lars_g: Likely too long then. Like 75 minutes or more? |
| 21:41:27 | * | n1s testbuilds manuals |
| 21:41:27 | amiconn | I'll still perform the fat16 tests |
| 21:42:30 | Lars_G | Lear: 46 minutes or so |
| 21:42:33 | amiconn | Slasheri: Sometimes I need to be beaten to implement something. If it's worth the effort, I might come up with a clever solution ;) |
| 21:42:49 | petur | jhMikeS: what tool did you use to get the samples position? audacity won't tell me now that I'm on the spot it's 1:34:17.470 for point 1 |
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| 21:43:17 | lowlight | any velvet underground fans?...http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WARHOL_W0QQitemZ300054910309QQihZ020QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300054910309 |
| 21:43:28 | Lear | Lars_g: hm... 46 minutes should be fine. You do need a recent build for it though. |
| 21:43:37 | linuxstb | lowlight: Yes, I heard about that.... |
| 21:43:51 | Lars_G | Lear: I thought I had it... well I have to build a patched build anyhow so I'll take the opportunity to do it |
| 21:44:03 | Slasheri | amiconn: hehe :) |
| 21:44:16 | jhMikeS | petur: cool edit pro. I can work in sample indexes and zoom to sample level to see the glitches |
| 21:44:34 | amiconn | I'll look into coldfire ata dma next. Might have a nice effect (aligned access only, unfortunately) |
| 21:44:38 | lowlight | linuxstb: maybe a copy will show up on dime ;) |
| 21:45:00 | Lear | Lars_g: well, if you haven't updated in the last 24 hours, it isn't new enough... |
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| 21:45:09 | Lars_G | HAHAHA |
| 21:45:16 | Cassandra | I think I missed something again. |
| 21:45:18 | Lars_G | Lear: Well wait for me I don't have an ARM cross yet |
| 21:45:26 | Cassandra | This channel is too fast moving for my old brain. |
| 21:45:40 | Cassandra | Did someone just call me a witch, or what? ;) |
| 21:45:42 | markun | lowlight: yes, because of the size of the case |
| 21:45:42 | Lars_G | Cassandra: old brains are better! |
| 21:46:00 | markun | lowlight: but the F40 is relatively cheap |
| 21:46:03 | Cassandra | Lars_G, well, it's the only one I've got. |
| 21:46:05 | Lars_G | Cassandra: that was me, I wondered whether it was Cassandra Willson the singer, or Cassandra the famous witch |
| 21:46:21 | petur | jhMikeS: position 2 = 1:34:19.120 don't know if that helps |
| 21:46:22 | Cassandra | Prophetess, really. |
| 21:46:24 | linuxstb | markun: Is the F series still being manufactured? |
| 21:46:30 | Cassandra | And yeah, it's after her. |
| 21:46:53 | Lars_G | Cassandra: Nice. And yes you're right prophetess. |
| 21:47:04 | Lars_G | Cassandra: She was the one doomed never to be taken seriously, wasn't she? |
| 21:47:16 | markun | linuxstb: I don't think so |
| 21:47:17 | Cassandra | I prophesy a new version of the much delayed Rockbox installer. |
| 21:47:26 | jhMikeS | petur: So, prerecording was full when you started it? |
| 21:47:39 | petur | that I cannot tell |
| 21:47:41 | Cassandra | Lars_G, yes. Don't f*** with Apollo. He's a right bastard. |
| 21:47:48 | Lars_G | Cassandra: meh what for? it's still easier to install than Ipod Linux |
| 21:48:02 | jhMikeS | and what does "29 fragments" mean if there's nothing audible? |
| 21:48:16 | Lars_G | Cassandra: Most of them where bastards... I remember the grief triton gave to poor odysseus while going home |
| 21:48:16 | Cassandra | Come to think of it, not f***ing with Apollo was what got her into trouble in the first place, so maybe that's not a great idea. |
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| 21:48:28 | markun | linuxstb: always the same story with rockbox.. finished by the time the player is out of production. |
| 21:48:31 | rasher | Cassandra: I have added a personal wishlist on DesktopTools, which I made ages ago. |
| 21:48:48 | petur | jhMikeS: fragments as in file fragments on disk (relating to disk fragmentation |
| 21:48:54 | Cassandra | rasger: I |
| 21:48:55 | * | amiconn builds rockbox for recorder with fat16 support |
| 21:49:00 | XavierGr | markun: are we going to see the usuall "Gentlemen we have sound" mail anytime soon? :D |
| 21:49:13 | Cassandra | rasher, I'll check it out, but I'm done for today. Spent most of today working on it. |
| 21:49:14 | petur | jhMikeS: pre-rec was probably full |
| 21:49:29 | amiconn | markun: Not entirely true... the X5 is still being manufactured afaik |
| 21:49:39 | markun | amiconn: yes, also the ipods, right? |
| 21:49:43 | Lars_G | Anyhow thanks for rockbox |
| 21:49:46 | amiconn | yes |
| 21:49:46 | Cassandra | I hate uploading stuff to the wiki. You never know if it's working/ |
| 21:49:56 | linuxstb | Although we now only support one of the current ipods... |
| 21:50:02 | markun | XavierGr: probably |
| 21:50:11 | amiconn | But only the G5.5 and Nano G2 |
| 21:50:13 | Lars_G | Btw I also bought a Griffin itrip for the nano, I wonder how hard it'd be to reverse eng and implement the serial driver for the CPU and the protocol for remote control once and for all.... |
| 21:50:23 | amiconn | ...and we only support the G5.5/30 so far |
| 21:50:24 | Lars_G | Maybe if I can put a sniffer in between the devices... hmmmm |
| 21:50:30 | jhMikeS | petur: I should be able to round those number to chunk indexes |
| 21:50:54 | * | petur doesn't slap forehead this time, but audacity |
| 21:50:59 | linuxstb | Lars_G: The protocol is more or less known (see the IPL wiki page). The problem is the serial driver. |
| 21:51:18 | amiconn | Hrmpf |
| 21:51:28 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Yes, the odd part is that if this is a common arm arch the serial should be known, unless they're using an off-chip driver... hmmm |
| 21:52:10 | * | amiconn now needs to install rockbox via linux, as windows doesn't like the partition |
| 21:52:30 | Lars_G | amiconn: ??? using mac type partition? |
| 21:52:46 | amiconn | nope |
| 21:52:55 | Lars_G | I personally preffer FAT32 with DOS type partition, since it allows me to use the ipod in linux, mac and windows |
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| 21:53:26 | amiconn | FAT32 using 2048 bytes per virtual sector |
| 21:53:44 | amiconn | Testing code intended for G5.5, and I don't have one myself |
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| 21:53:58 | * | petur formats his h340 to defrag it |
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| 21:54:19 | amiconn | petur: Why not defrag it for real? |
| 21:54:38 | petur | too slow |
| 21:55:22 | jhMikeS | hmmm those times round to a 35-37 chunk span, not 41. |
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| 21:56:06 | preglow | amiconn: also, defrag seldom completes with a completely defragmented drive |
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| 21:56:34 | petur | format + copy again goes faster and with better success, imho |
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| 21:57:02 | jhMikeS | petur: don't suppose I could get a copy of the recording in total could I? |
| 21:57:46 | petur | jhMikeS: 1.02 GB :( |
| 21:58:14 | petur | and first glitch is only at 42 minutes |
| 21:58:58 | jhMikeS | ok everything from the start to the last glitch would be enough. maybe flac encode or even ogg and it should hurt it. |
| 21:59:02 | jhMikeS | shouldn't |
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| 22:00:10 | petur | what tool shall I get to encode to flac (windows)? <−− /me lazy |
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| 22:01:08 | jhMikeS | I just have the command line tool downloaded from the site |
| 22:01:25 | petur | mono is ok? |
| 22:01:29 | petur | saves 50% |
| 22:01:58 | jhMikeS | lemme check |
| 22:02:26 | amiconn | Hey, what's a gig? ;) |
| 22:02:48 | jhMikeS | yeah, actually makes the glitches more visible |
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| 22:05:34 | jhMikeS | I have to run to the post office, be back in an hour or so. |
| 22:06:23 | PaulPosition | Anyone knows where does the api 'functions' ->lcd_hline() and lcd_vline() take their colour from? Can't understand why sudoku would draw me white lines on a white board making the grid invisible... |
| 22:07:03 | amiconn | They use the foreground colour the same way as all other graphics primitives |
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| 22:07:53 | PaulPosition | still, the theme's config has them set as Fore-FFFFFF and back-000000... |
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| 22:08:08 | n1s | ffffff==white |
| 22:08:17 | PaulPosition | arr. |
| 22:08:21 | PaulPosition | :o |
| 22:08:53 | n1s | set them your self in the plugin |
| 22:09:50 | lowlight | jhMikeS: wanna fix a playback.c error? |
| 22:09:53 | PaulPosition | n1s - Hmmm.. I'm not very familiar with variable's scope in C... |
| 22:10:06 | PaulPosition | But I'll have a look, thanks. |
| 22:10:32 | lowlight | jhMikeS: line 3562, the "else" is #if'ed out |
| 22:11:27 | jhMikeS | lowlight: ok, will have a look when I get back, gotta run |
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| 22:12:55 | n1s | PaulPosition: rb->lcd_set_foreground(COLOR_BLACK); |
| 22:13:19 | n1s | or maybe LCD_BLACK |
| 22:14:10 | PaulPosition | n1s - Thanks, I'll try that... Is there any way to get back to theme's default on exit? Or is it automagic? |
| 22:16:57 | lowlight | jhMikeS: ok...actually it would be clearer if just the inner "if ( (ev.id == SYS_TIMEOUT)..." statement was #if'ed |
| 22:17:13 | amiconn | PaulPosition: It's automagic |
| 22:17:29 | PaulPosition | amiconn - Thanks for the tip. :) |
| 22:17:58 | * | amiconn now listens to music from a 2048-byte-vsector FAT16 partition |
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| 22:19:27 | * | Slasheri runs advanced rom loader bootloader on h140 without bricking it :) |
| 22:19:32 | Slasheri | now a good time to go sleeping |
| 22:19:37 | amiconn | Hehe :) |
| 22:19:47 | Slasheri | tomorrow it's hard to choose which one player to pick up with :) |
| 22:19:52 | amiconn | Expect a commit while you're sleeping :) |
| 22:19:58 | Slasheri | hehe :) |
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| 22:28:34 | Cassandra- | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
| 22:28:51 | Cassandra- | Install till your little hearts burst. |
| 22:28:57 | Cassandra- | I expect it's full of bug. |
| 22:29:06 | unleet | Ive searched and cannot find backdrops for download. Any suggestions? |
| 22:29:07 | Cassandra- | Bugs even. |
| 22:29:32 | Cassandra- | Get better at searching? Stop looking? |
| 22:29:42 | XavierGr | unleet: make some on your own |
| 22:29:47 | Cassandra- | Or did you want *helpful* suggestions? |
| 22:29:56 | XavierGr | unleet: it is quite easy |
| 22:30:11 | XavierGr | unleet: just find a picture you like and crop it on your player's resolution |
| 22:30:19 | unleet | I tried but the I cannot access my music. Ill read some documentation. |
| 22:30:26 | unleet | then* |
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| 22:30:29 | * | petur wonders if it's wise to put exe's in the wiki |
| 22:30:51 | dionoea | unleet: are you sure that you're setting the bmp as backdrop and not editing it with some plugin ? |
| 22:30:59 | Cassandra- | petur: Maybe not. |
| 22:31:12 | unleet | Yes |
| 22:31:25 | lowlight | add with an md5sum |
| 22:31:37 | unleet | It shows the picture but I cannot see anything else. |
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| 22:32:04 | dionoea | unleet: if you press up once and down once after setting the picture do you see a toolbar ? |
| 22:32:08 | dionoea | (just to make sure) |
| 22:32:28 | unleet | nothing |
| 22:33:06 | rasher | Cassandra-: I see I can still select Rockbox Stable version by navigating with the arrow-buttons |
| 22:33:32 | pixelma | unleet: did you choose "set as backdrop" or did you only "click" on the bmp |
| 22:34:26 | unleet | set as backdrop |
| 22:34:46 | TommyTott | my ipod is dead.. 2 days ago, i couldnt start it, it just showed the " :( " picture, but now it wont start at all.. help.. |
| 22:34:57 | rasher | Charge it. |
| 22:35:24 | dionoea | TommyTott: did you try plugin it to some charger / usb ? |
| 22:35:30 | unleet | Download the ipod firmware back to it. |
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| 22:35:42 | Cassandra | rasher - hmm - not so good. |
| 22:35:49 | TommyTott | but, if i have the charger in, shouldt it start?? cause i have it in charger now, but nothing happens |
| 22:36:19 | TommyTott | do it have to be in the charger for å long time if the battery is flat before something will happen?? |
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| 22:36:31 | unleet | Can you send the old ipod firmware back to it? |
| 22:36:44 | TommyTott | now it wont start at all |
| 22:36:47 | dionoea | TommyTott: usually 5 to 10 minutes i'd guess (well you still see something on the screen though) |
| 22:36:52 | dionoea | when charging using usb |
| 22:37:02 | TommyTott | i now charge inn wall |
| 22:37:46 | unleet | When charging with usb, do you see a plug icon? |
| 22:38:02 | TommyTott | no. not now.. 2 days ago, i did |
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| 22:38:31 | unleet | Your battery is dead then. |
| 22:38:49 | TommyTott | :( |
| 22:39:22 | TommyTott | its little used.. had it for some time, but not used so much.. |
| 22:39:45 | TommyTott | but it has been a little while since last time |
| 22:39:50 | dionoea | try keeping it plugged in for like 1 full day |
| 22:40:00 | dionoea | then you'll know for sure |
| 22:40:35 | TommyTott | if nothing happens, i should know in one hour?? |
| 22:40:41 | unleet | pixelma my backdrop works now. |
| 22:41:01 | unleet | The bg color was black, as in text black so i saw nothing |
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| 22:43:24 | unleet | Probably an hour is best |
| 22:43:47 | unleet | If nothing happens, the battery is most likely dead. |
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| 22:45:00 | TommyTott | the last post here, does this include ipod also?? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6287.msg53506#msg53506 |
| 22:45:14 | unleet | Let me have a look. |
| 22:47:16 | unleet | That is a very good idea. If you could charge it seperate it might do something. |
| 22:48:03 | TommyTott | oki.. but i dont know how to do that, so.. dont even know how to open the ipod.. |
| 22:48:25 | unleet | Look in the forums under the section "Hardware" |
| 22:48:30 | TommyTott | i know theres problably an tutorial on the net |
| 22:48:31 | unleet | Might help. |
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| 22:48:54 | unleet | Should find something |
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| 22:49:53 | preglow | woot |
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| 22:50:03 | preglow | anything else left for proper 5.5g support now? |
| 22:50:13 | unleet | I may have found you something. |
| 22:50:17 | amiconn | Yes, figuring the 80GB ata issues |
| 22:50:24 | amiconn | *figuring out |
| 22:51:10 | amiconn | But for the 30GB model I would simply say it's supported at the same level as the old G5 |
| 22:51:11 | unleet | This has pictures on how to replace the ipod battery |
| 22:51:13 | unleet | http://www.ipodbattery.com/ipodinstall.htm |
| 22:51:25 | TommyTott | thanks |
| 22:51:34 | bluebrother | rasher, what do you think about (a) hiding the rockbox.{iriver,ipod,...} file in the "supported" view or (b) making the "music" view the default? |
| 22:52:00 | amiconn | preglow: That's all that was needed: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/firmware/drivers/fat.c.diff?r1=1.127&r2=1.131 |
| 22:52:13 | amiconn | (plus the multiple mount checks in disk.c) |
| 22:52:36 | dionoea | bluebrother: you should only hide the default one (in case people want to load another file named rockbox.ipod stored in another directory) |
| 22:52:44 | unleet | Not guarunteeing success. Thats just to replace the battery |
| 22:52:46 | dionoea | or even better, hide only the loaded one (if that's possible) |
| 22:52:57 | bluebrother | hmm. That's an idea. |
| 22:53:18 | bluebrother | it's mainly the problem users tend to "click" on that "rockbox folder" |
| 22:53:29 | TommyTott | unleet: i see.. dont have any powersource to charge it like that, so.. |
| 22:53:47 | bluebrother | but as the database view also only shows music files I thought about simply making the music files view the default |
| 22:53:56 | unleet | I bet you could either buy one or........ |
| 22:54:18 | unleet | Depending on the battery connection |
| 22:54:24 | amiconn | bluebrother: 'music' was the default view long ago. People comlained... |
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| 22:54:45 | bluebrother | it was? Oh. |
| 22:54:52 | amiconn | yep |
| 22:54:55 | bluebrother | why did they complain? Seems more logical to me. |
| 22:55:38 | TommyTott | the problem is that I discovered this problem 2 days ago.. and im gooing to thailand on thursday.. so i dont have so good time.. thats the problem.. |
| 22:55:50 | preglow | hrnmrmr |
| 22:55:52 | preglow | what the hell |
| 22:55:56 | preglow | i switched dircache on |
| 22:55:58 | preglow | then shut down |
| 22:56:01 | preglow | then started again |
| 22:56:04 | preglow | and it had not taken effect |
| 22:56:15 | unleet | I see well umm... Short notice makes a bit of a problem. |
| 22:56:27 | preglow | it was forgotten, i see... |
| 22:56:30 | unleet | Unless you can wait till after you come back. |
| 22:56:39 | preglow | ehhh... |
| 22:56:43 | preglow | i can reproduce it easily |
| 22:57:01 | amiconn | bluebrother: Umm, this was changed in June 2005. There should be some hints on the ml |
| 22:57:56 | preglow | also for other options, what the hell |
| 22:58:37 | TommyTott | unleet: well, seems like i have noe other choise.. But now i dont have any music on the plane.. :( |
| 22:58:56 | Kasperle | oh. forum is down? |
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| 22:59:39 | preglow | could someone please try to reproduce this? clear settings. reboot rockbox, enable dircache, then hold stop until it shuts down |
| 22:59:43 | preglow | the settings are not saved |
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| 23:00:02 | unleet | Laptop? Cd player? Other Mp3? |
| 23:00:08 | preglow | also does the same for any other option, apparently |
| 23:00:18 | rasher | preglow: You need to exit the menu |
| 23:00:35 | Soap | petur wonders if it's wise to put exe's in the wiki |
| 23:00:43 | unleet | I just received 2 free 125 mb mp3 players + speakers from Office depot for purchasing large amounts for work. |
| 23:00:48 | preglow | rasher: what menu? the menu the option is in? |
| 23:00:54 | Soap | can the uploading of .exe files be limited to only a select few wiki members? |
| 23:00:55 | TommyTott | dont have either of those.. :P |
| 23:01:02 | rasher | preglow: The main menu. Settings are only saved when exiting the menu, it seems. |
| 23:01:04 | Soap | There are a lot of unvetted people with wiki access. |
| 23:01:08 | preglow | rasher: well, that's... |
| 23:01:21 | unleet | No CD player? |
| 23:01:31 | TommyTott | CD, whats that?? :P |
| 23:01:34 | rasher | preglow: amiconn says it's always been like that |
| 23:01:35 | unleet | you can get one for 10-20$ at walmart. |
| 23:01:38 | unleet | lol |
| 23:01:46 | unleet | I have tons of Cd's for my car. |
| 23:01:50 | preglow | rasher: i still say it's pretty weird behaviour |
| 23:01:59 | TommyTott | i have a computer in my car.. :P |
| 23:02:03 | unleet | Too lazy to remember the iriver transmitor thing |
| 23:02:04 | rasher | preglow: Or I may have read him wrong. I've been known to do that |
| 23:02:19 | amiconn | rasher: No, you're right |
| 23:02:23 | unleet | Install rockbox in your car :D |
| 23:02:30 | rasher | preglow: I'd expect settings to be saved when I exit the single submenu as well |
| 23:02:38 | TommyTott | Computer, 7" touch screen, gps, centrafuse frontend.. |
| 23:02:41 | amiconn | It's always been lik ethat, and it's a good idea to do it like that in general |
| 23:02:49 | preglow | amiconn: i'd love to hear why |
| 23:02:54 | preglow | it's annoying and illogical |
| 23:03:14 | unleet | Wish my accord had something that nice. |
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| 23:03:44 | TommyTott | install it.. my car didnt have it.. www.mp3car.com |
| 23:03:48 | * | bluebrother failed to find something on the ml |
| 23:04:00 | TommyTott | www.centrafuse.com |
| 23:04:23 | unleet | I'll take a look. |
| 23:04:26 | unleet | Price Range? |
| 23:05:25 | TommyTott | hmm.. depends of what specs you want.. mine, about 800usd.. but i live in norway, and here its expensive |
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| 23:05:41 | TommyTott | so in the us, less i would think |
| 23:05:58 | preglow | petur: what kind of mic do you use, btw? |
| 23:06:04 | TommyTott | you use a normal computer.. only the psu is special.. for 12V |
| 23:06:29 | unleet | Expensive |
| 23:06:34 | goffa | i'm liking aux in better |
| 23:06:40 | goffa | just hook up one of the players |
| 23:06:50 | unleet | Look up "PhatBox" I think it is. I want that. |
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| 23:07:12 | TommyTott | then you dont have all you music, gps navigation, radio, movies ect |
| 23:07:19 | petur | preglow: a pair of cardoids and a mic-amp inbetween |
| 23:07:27 | goffa | yeah.. watch the road ;) |
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| 23:07:47 | TommyTott | goffa: thats borning.. :P |
| 23:07:54 | goffa | he he he |
| 23:08:08 | Soap | drifting quite a bit offtopic. |
| 23:08:41 | petur | preglow: but the recording quality is not good, I couldn't get good mic placement and got too much bass and almost no vocals/guitar |
| 23:08:45 | goffa | so.. when's rockbox going to get gps? |
| 23:08:48 | goffa | j/k |
| 23:08:48 | preglow | petur: it's not bad either |
| 23:08:49 | goffa | :) |
| 23:09:02 | unleet | Need a chip in your mp3 player for gps. |
| 23:09:12 | TommyTott | unleet: the PhatBox seemed hard to navigate.. all that music, and no other indication that a number |
| 23:09:12 | unleet | Im sure it can be done. |
| 23:09:13 | goffa | i know.. i was just kidding |
| 23:09:13 | amiconn | goffa: The idea isn't even new... |
| 23:09:35 | unleet | I only want music though. I dont need internet and crap too. |
| 23:09:38 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon once wanted to connect a gps module to his archos recorder |
| 23:09:39 | goffa | maybe i'm stuck inside the box.. but HOW? |
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| 23:09:44 | amiconn | (via serial i/f) |
| 23:09:54 | Soap | serial NEMA output from a good GPS. |
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| 23:10:11 | Soap | though most of the recent consumer ones only do USB. |
| 23:10:16 | goffa | yeah |
| 23:10:22 | goffa | usbotgps ;) |
| 23:10:27 | petur | preglow: preamp = http://cgi.ebay.ca/CHURCH-AUDIO-ST-9100-STEREO-MICROPHONE-PREAMP_W0QQitemZ260034413751QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3281QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:10:27 | unleet | Solder a gps chip onto your mp3 player and pretend like "hey my mp3 has a gps!" |
| 23:10:34 | bluebrother | sure they don't simply use a serial to usb converter? |
| 23:10:42 | goffa | probably do |
| 23:11:02 | jhMikeS | petur: back. have a link? |
| 23:11:09 | Soap | bluebrother: the garmin etrex series, I believe, has no serial at all. |
| 23:11:10 | TommyTott | my ipod still dosent show anything.. :( |
| 23:11:18 | petur | jhMikeS: got my PM ? |
| 23:11:23 | unleet | Wait exactly 1 day. |
| 23:11:25 | bluebrother | I mean inside ;-) |
| 23:11:29 | unleet | Keep it plgged in |
| 23:11:35 | unleet | plugged* |
| 23:11:36 | jhMikeS | sorry didn't see it there covered up |
| 23:11:46 | n1s | TommyTott: tried select+menu for about 30 sec? |
| 23:12:06 | goffa | would be fun to take a player geocaching |
| 23:12:07 | unleet | His battery is dead. |
| 23:12:21 | petur | preglow: mic = http://cgi.ebay.ca/STEREO-MICROPHONE-PREAMP-4-MINIDISC-MD-EDIROL-MP3_W0QQitemZ260060113823QQihZ016QQcategoryZ3281QQcmdZViewItem (or maybe the previous version of it) |
| 23:12:37 | goffa | don't know that it would be any less cumbersome than having a gps and a player though |
| 23:12:45 | TommyTott | hahahahahhahahahha.. it started.. |
| 23:12:47 | TommyTott | wft |
| 23:12:49 | TommyTott | YEY |
| 23:12:49 | n1s | unleet: yes but some of those ipods with dead batteries behave strangely when they are charged again |
| 23:12:51 | unleet | Really? |
| 23:12:54 | TommyTott | yes |
| 23:13:02 | unleet | Woah thats messed up. |
| 23:13:03 | petur | preglow: prices are a bit better for taperssection.com members ;) |
| 23:13:39 | TommyTott | it works.. now i just have to charge, and then try to get the orginal firmware in.. |
| 23:13:44 | petur | jhMikeS: speed will be lowish, thank my IPS |
| 23:13:49 | amiconn | goffa: The advantage of a dap is still the huge disk space. You could store tons of detailed maps on them |
| 23:13:52 | unleet | Thats goo to hear. |
| 23:14:03 | petur | should get 30KB/s peak |
| 23:14:13 | TommyTott | n1s: Thanks a lot.. :D |
| 23:14:26 | n1s | np :-) glad it worked out |
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| 23:15:00 | TommyTott | but, if i dont have the orginal backup files, how do i get the orginal firmware back?? |
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| 23:15:06 | goffa | amiconn: good point |
| 23:15:14 | Soap | TommyTott: the apple restore tool. |
| 23:15:27 | Soap | or, I can send you the bootloader.bin for a 5th gen. |
| 23:15:27 | n1s | but it will wipe the ipod clean |
| 23:16:37 | TommyTott | oki.. then i will see if i have to transfer the music first |
| 23:16:45 | TommyTott | i think i have the 4th gen.. |
| 23:17:13 | TommyTott | yes, i have |
| 23:17:24 | jhMikeS | playback.c 3562 is #ifdefed out? Not for MEM > 8 |
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| 23:17:45 | TommyTott | arent there any way of doing it without wipe it clean?? |
| 23:18:10 | Soap | find someone to send you the 4th gen bootloader.bin file. |
| 23:18:20 | jhMikeS | my checkout is a couple days behind though. was sort of hesitant to update with any ata problems present. |
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| 23:18:40 | TommyTott | Anyone who has it?? |
| 23:19:12 | TommyTott | i think rockbox has a potensial, but my version has a lot of bugs i think |
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| 23:21:36 | Soap | TommyTott: you know there is an unofficial build for the 4th generation ipods which prevents the random crashes. |
| 23:21:39 | jhMikeS | petur: says about 7hrs !! :P |
| 23:21:45 | Soap | ASSuming that is your chief complaint. |
| 23:21:56 | petur | I'll leave the pc on this night :) |
| 23:23:00 | jhMikeS | hope my ISP doesn't drop the connection. seems to happen every evening and have to reboot (AT&T after SBC takeover) |
| 23:23:16 | petur | jhMikeS: I hope you use a client that can resume |
| 23:23:27 | jhMikeS | it should |
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| 23:23:40 | TommyTott | soap: i havent checked for å while, but the biggest problem i have, is that when i scroll the music, it scrolles to fast.. suddenly im at the bottom.. if i try to scroll up, it goes to the top.. |
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| 23:24:49 | petur | jhMikeS: should get a bit faster now, cpu and disk are idle again :) |
| 23:25:12 | TommyTott | can i fint the bootloader file on the rockbox site?? |
| 23:25:29 | TommyTott | or isnt it worth searching?? |
| 23:25:30 | * | jhMikeS wonder's if Cowon is gonna stall and try and screw him on his warranty |
| 23:25:37 | Soap | no, it's not exactly kosher to distribute I believe, as it is Apple' |
| 23:25:42 | Soap | s bootloader. |
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| 23:25:52 | jhMikeS | petur: Cranking at 18.2kB/s |
| 23:25:57 | TommyTott | oki |
| 23:26:15 | TommyTott | hmm, how can i find it?!? |
| 23:27:00 | petur | jhMikeS: strange, it's going out here at around 30KB/s with a small dip from time to time |
| 23:27:45 | linuxstb_ | TommyTott: If you didn't keep a backup, then you'll need to use itunes to restore. But your scrolling problem sounds like you're using an unofficial/experimental version of Rockbox |
| 23:28:39 | petur | jhMikeS: anyways... off to bed, gotta get up early tomorrow :/ |
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| 23:29:20 | TommyTott | linuxstb: i did, but my laptop crashed, so i dont have it anymore.. but maybe i should try to install a new rockbox version.. but can you guys help me find the best for my ipod?? im not shure about all the different versions |
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| 23:31:16 | linuxstb_ | Probably this one: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6357.0 - the only patch it includes is the one that disables CPU frequency scaling, which still seems unstable on the 4g. |
| 23:31:18 | TommyTott | i have a ipod 20gb photo |
| 23:31:42 | TommyTott | that may not be 4th gen?? or?? |
| 23:31:45 | Lars_G | I have a nano 2Gb 1G |
| 23:32:08 | Lars_G | hmmm if I remember correctly, iPod photo was 4G but I'm not %100 sure |
| 23:32:40 | TommyTott | on rockbox.org, the grayscale says 4th gen.. |
| 23:33:05 | TommyTott | i dont know if the color and grayscale is different else than the screen |
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| 23:33:41 | Soap | photo is the 4th gen |
| 23:33:53 | Soap | there is a 4th gen grey, and a 4th gen colour/photo |
| 23:34:21 | Soap | and I hope both of your players have GB capacity, Gb would be a rip off. |
| 23:34:47 | Lars_G | hehehe true |
| 23:34:55 | Lars_G | Yes, afaik 5G is iPod video |
| 23:35:25 | Soap | correct |
| 23:36:06 | TommyTott | then it was how to install the new build.. long time since i did this |
| 23:36:54 | Soap | unzip it onto your player, overwriting the existing files. |
| 23:37:35 | TommyTott | oki.. then i try |
| 23:37:43 | * | Lars_G falls face first on the floor frozen as a ice cube and shatters |
| 23:38:43 | mirak | hi |
| 23:38:51 | bluebrother | the ripoff is that it's GB and not GiB (and windows pretending GiB to be GB) |
| 23:39:18 | TommyTott | hmm, where is the bootloader located on my ipod?? |
| 23:39:26 | mirak | does anyone had crash on wav playing with H300 recently ? |
| 23:39:59 | mirak | I failed a wav recording of a live show also |
| 23:39:59 | Lars_G | bluebrother: Gb vs. GB is a bigger much bigger lose than GiB over GB |
| 23:40:11 | Lars_G | TommyTott: In a private partition |
| 23:40:22 | Lars_G | TommyTott: And there's also the initial loader which is in rom/flash |
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| 23:40:37 | bluebrother | indeed, but with bigger drives that GB vs. GiB gets quite some amount |
| 23:40:48 | Lars_G | bluebrother: But I understand you well, people handling GiB as GB pissess me off to no end |
| 23:41:12 | bluebrother | even Rockbox doesn't do it correctly :( |
| 23:41:14 | rasher | Rockbox does this. |
| 23:42:18 | rasher | bluebrother: Patch! |
| 23:42:23 | rasher | Config option! |
| 23:42:38 | rasher | In fact, this is probably set in the language file |
| 23:42:46 | rasher | I should quietly change it in dansk.lang |
| 23:43:27 | rasher | I guess the voice file whould say "gibibyte" as well. |
| 23:43:37 | bluebrother | english.lang should start doing it |
| 23:43:40 | rasher | Which is.. annoyingly stupid. |
| 23:44:01 | bluebrother | gibibyte is stupid? |
| 23:44:14 | rasher | Well, saying it aloud is |
| 23:44:24 | rasher | The word is just.. not good |
| 23:44:39 | preglow | beats confusion |
| 23:44:49 | rasher | Yeah, that's true. |
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| 23:45:08 | bluebrother | well, at least the word itself makes sense. And there are words that are way more worse as words |
| 23:45:13 | Soap | there are some truths the general public is not ready for. |
| 23:45:28 | bluebrother | in germany you say "handy" for mobile phone. *That* is really crap |
| 23:45:29 | Soap | I believe the mere existance of gibibyte is one of those truths. |
| 23:45:46 | preglow | bluebrother: sweet lord, that's cheesy |
| 23:46:20 | bluebrother | the funny thing is the germans going to some english speaking country and not knowing that difference ... |
| 23:46:34 | jhMikeS | preglow: don't know if you ever saw this: http://www.dspdimension.com/src/smbPitchShift.cpp . Maybe want to give a look? |
| 23:47:14 | Bagder | bluebrother: I can acknowledge that a german I met looked very surprised when I told him it isn't called like that in english ;-) |
| 23:47:35 | preglow | jhMikeS: i think i've seen it, and i think it does phase vocoding |
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| 23:47:44 | bluebrother | I simply call mine "phone" and quite a few looked really strange at me when they realize I'm referring to my mobile |
| 23:47:44 | preglow | yes, indeed |
| 23:47:49 | preglow | i don't want to code a fast fft :/ |
| 23:48:27 | jhMikeS | no, why? just the code or it's just too cpu intensive? |
| 23:48:35 | preglow | jhMikeS: both, really |
| 23:48:39 | bluebrother | I'm pretty sure that word was intended by one of those marketing guys that have no idea about the technical stuff they are advertising |
| 23:48:43 | preglow | jhMikeS: it'll probably suck down a very decent amount of cpu anyway |
| 23:50:06 | jhMikeS | I might find it fun to try it out myself and learn something important in the process anyway. |
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| 23:50:15 | preglow | jhMikeS: might not take too long to get it going, though, if you've already got a fixed point fft/ifft |
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| 23:53:24 | jhMikeS | I'll probably have to make it up just from the math itself. I don't have anything readily available but that will be beneficial in learning. |
| 23:55:24 | preglow | jhMikeS: don't expect too much from it, though. while it doesn't have as obvious transient artifacts as the time domain one, it does smear them quite badly |
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| 23:58:51 | TommyTott | unleet: here?? |
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