| 00:00:00 | petur | does weird things here on my h340 with latest cvs |
| 00:00:47 | aridese | i haven't seen a lot of open source code, how does rockbox stack up? |
| 00:00:56 | aridese | it seems like there's almost no comments... |
| 00:01:20 | aridese | then again, i comment every single line of my code |
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| 00:45:30 | JdGordon | anyone know a decent gui flac->ogg/mp3 encoder? cbf with the cli |
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| 00:50:30 | pixelma | morning Jd ... |
| 00:50:45 | JdGordon | hehe morning again |
| 00:50:59 | JdGordon | I feel no better than I did 2 hours ago |
| 00:51:47 | pixelma | should I wait with the report then? |
| 00:51:54 | JdGordon | na, shoot |
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| 00:54:18 | pixelma | ok.. no change with the resume position... but an observation: in current CVS the MMC activity symbol appears for a short time after rebuffering (pure playback) - amiconn explained to me that this is a sign that the resume position is written... |
| 00:54:34 | pixelma | that doesn't happen with your patch |
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| 00:55:19 | linuxstb | JdGordon: You said you didn't want the command-line, but oggenc converts directly from FLAC to Ogg/Vorbis and maintains the tags. |
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| 00:56:26 | pixelma | JdGordon: and also very important - voice doesn't work anymore (that was also the case with yesterday's patch - buffer is big enough for the voice file to fit and the voice settings are displayed correctly |
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| 00:57:22 | JdGordon | linuxstb: i know, but im too tired to think to do the whle thig properly... how do i get it to convert every .flac under ~/flac/? (and even better, copy the .ogg intot he same folder structure except under ~/ogg/ ) ? |
| 00:57:58 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok ta, voice not working is a problem |
| 00:58:23 | pixelma | and with the LCD mode "inverse" setting even weirder things are happening than with last week's patch |
| 00:58:31 | JdGordon | haha |
| 00:58:34 | JdGordon | how? |
| 00:59:04 | * | JdGordon found out that the h300 lcd can flip display on both axis' at the same time... makes for a very ineteresting display |
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| 01:00:08 | pixelma | while still in the settings screen it gets inversed correctly... go back one level - still inverted but line selector changes to pointer selector again - you can even set it to line selector again in the specific submenu... |
| 01:00:31 | pixelma | ...going back to file browser/wps - the inversion disappears... |
| 01:01:04 | pixelma | ...enter the settings again it shows that "inverse" is selected |
| 01:01:22 | JdGordon | sounds like fun :D |
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| 01:01:51 | pixelma | yup - that's what I thought :P |
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| 01:04:55 | pixelma | the font browser is ok now - also the statusbar drawing after loading a theme |
| 01:05:45 | pixelma | and the new build picked up wps/font/lang/fmr from the config.cfg correctly |
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| 01:10:54 | JdGordon | pixelma: shuold that invert option be live? or only take effec when exiting the item? |
| 01:11:47 | pixelma | it is live in current cvs |
| 01:12:19 | pixelma | (and works) |
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| 01:25:03 | JdGordon | grr... LCD Mode setting doesnt work in the sim |
| 01:25:17 | JdGordon | and voice doesnt work on my h300 also... |
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| 01:27:45 | pixelma | JdGordon: I'm not sure but I think voice was alright with the patch of December 2nd |
| 01:28:22 | JdGordon | I tihnk it was, because Im not gettin any slowness when the menu opens (which was happening when the voice was loading before) |
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| 01:29:29 | l0de | Hello sirs, has there been any progress towards rockbox on 80gb 5.5g ipods? |
| 01:30:44 | Soap | none that I am aware of, check the New Ports forum. |
| 01:31:56 | l0de | I can't access forums from my work, unfortunately. |
| 01:32:04 | l0de | But I'm sure you'd have heard if they had :\ |
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| 01:33:18 | Soap | yea, my work is like that too. |
| 01:33:41 | l0de | Anything that includes the word "Forum" seems to get filtered out |
| 01:33:44 | l0de | But I can irc ok |
| 01:33:46 | * | linuxstb works from home ;) |
| 01:34:02 | l0de | I want to put a proxy on my home computer so I can check stuff from work |
| 01:34:15 | l0de | but aren't sure how to do it on an xp system, and unwilling to learn and install linux |
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| 01:34:42 | safetydan | amiconn: if you're looking for fixed point functions try http://astroinfo.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/astroinfo/trunk/astroinfo/source/FixedPoint.c?revision=624&view=markup |
| 01:35:07 | safetydan | The code is GPL and has arm and m68k versions. |
| 01:35:34 | safetydan | The header is also important http://astroinfo.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/astroinfo/trunk/astroinfo/source/FixedPoint.h?revision=613&view=markup |
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| 01:43:17 | barrywardell | dan_a: any progress with crt0? |
| 01:43:33 | JdGordon | apart from resume info, which settings shhuold be saved every time the disk spins? (as apposed to only being saved when explicitly told to save) |
| 01:44:36 | Arathis | barrywardell: appending "/usr/local/lib" didn't help my problem btw. (compiling arm-efl-gcc with rockboxdev.sh.) got still the same error |
| 01:45:57 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Do you have xcode set up to compile Mac OS "fat binaries" (or whatever the dual-architecture binaries are called) ? |
| 01:46:47 | barrywardell | universal binaries? yes, I did last time I checked anyway... |
| 01:47:38 | linuxstb | It could be useful if you could compile ipod_fw.c (and maybe diskdump, after I add 5.5g support to it). But no rush - no-one's complained about the lack of mac-on-intel support so far... |
| 01:48:30 | barrywardell | i'll look into it. it's been quite a while since i've used xcode |
| 01:48:48 | linuxstb | I've never used it... |
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| 01:52:14 | JdGordon | pixelma: does the resume info (and other settings) get saved correclty on a clean shutdown? |
| 01:52:53 | pixelma | yes they do (as far as I could see) |
| 01:52:59 | JdGordon | ok, good |
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| 02:12:54 | barrywardell | linuxstb, dan_a: here are the changes I need to make to crt0-pp.S to get rockbox to boot with the new bootloader crt0 on my h10 - http://pastebin.ca/274887 |
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| 02:14:56 | barrywardell | the only real change necessary is invalidating the cache when the cop wakes up and making the cpu wait for the cop to be asleep |
| 02:15:00 | Plouj | so, would it be a bad idea for me to buy my (non-geeky/technical) brother an iriver and install rock box on it since it's not stable/finished/feature-complete yet? |
| 02:15:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | Depends on which iRiver you're referring to |
| 02:16:14 | Plouj | well, someone suggested that iriver h320 is similar to ipod in price and functionality (of rockbox), so that one |
| 02:16:27 | Plouj | (ipod nano) |
| 02:16:40 | Paul_the_Nerd | The functionality of Rockbox on the H320 is much more reliable than the iPods, overall |
| 02:16:58 | Paul_the_Nerd | Better battery life than the original firmware, and the music is less likely to skip while doing things |
| 02:18:09 | Plouj | ok |
| 02:18:25 | Plouj | what are the downsides of installing rockbox on h320 then? |
| 02:19:04 | Paul_the_Nerd | Rockbox doesn't play WMA files, Rockbox doesn't have video, and if it's a US H320, Rockbox removes the ability for it to play DRM'ed music (as well, switching to a firmware that supports video does that as well) |
| 02:19:46 | Plouj | and recording, I heard, right |
| 02:19:59 | Paul_the_Nerd | What about recording? |
| 02:19:59 | Plouj | considering that those features are not what my bro needs, it's good |
| 02:20:10 | Paul_the_Nerd | Rockbox has far better recording functionality than the retail firmware... |
| 02:20:16 | Plouj | oh |
| 02:20:24 | Plouj | that's not what I heard in this channel, and read on the wiki |
| 02:20:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | Where in the wiki? |
| 02:20:44 | Paul_the_Nerd | And who told you that? |
| 02:20:45 | Plouj | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverStatus |
| 02:21:30 | Paul_the_Nerd | That page is over 7 months old |
| 02:21:46 | Paul_the_Nerd | Actually, closer to 9ish |
| 02:21:55 | Plouj | yeah, I've been told that |
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| 02:22:05 | Plouj | well, I'll take you word for it then |
| 02:22:20 | Paul_the_Nerd | You could just read the manual. |
| 02:22:27 | pixelma | Paul_the_Nerd: if you read the forums and latest logs... there seem to be some problems with recording on swcodec targets atm (H3x0 and X5 seem to be affected at least) |
| 02:22:32 | Paul_the_Nerd | It covers what functionality Rockbox has on the H300, and you could decide if that's suitable to your brother. |
| 02:22:53 | Plouj | manual, eh |
| 02:22:55 | * | jhMikeS is reading the earlier logs and his head is going to explode |
| 02:22:56 | Paul_the_Nerd | pixelma: Yes, but that's not relating to the recording features, just a small glitch that occurs in long recordings, right? |
| 02:23:06 | Paul_the_Nerd | The dropped samples things? |
| 02:23:15 | Paul_the_Nerd | Or is this the "strange button combinations can cause it to freeze" one? |
| 02:23:27 | Paul_the_Nerd | Either way, it's not a matter of what Rockbox supports so much as a recent bug that'll get ironed out. :) |
| 02:23:50 | jhMikeS | You just get a spontaneous stop and 1 Dec doesn't stop? |
| 02:24:34 | pixelma | jhMikeS: to whom was the question directed at? |
| 02:25:27 | jhMikeS | pixelma: I saw some discussion in the logs. Anyone that can clarify really. x5 and H340 is the issue? |
| 02:27:48 | jhMikeS | amiconn, peter and bger were talking about it |
| 02:28:02 | pixelma | that's what amiconn reported (he did some tests) - I was there when he tried on an X5 and it seemed to occur reliably just after a non-predictable time - that's all I can say as I don't have one of those myself |
| 02:29:58 | jhMikeS | I'm just wondering if the problem actually starts on 6 Dec with the slight change in the DMA stuff |
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| 02:30:19 | pixelma | that was yesterday and today before noon (GMT) don't lnow if that was tested after your last commits |
| 02:30:25 | JdGordon | I need to zero a file, possibly fairly frequently, is it better to delete it completly or just truncate it to 0 ? |
| 02:33:10 | jhMikeS | yeah, in the 23:00's in the logs...but I'm sans x5 for a bit so can't check it out :( |
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| 02:40:06 | jhMikeS | if no peakmeters and no increase in the size/time then I suspect DMA is just stopping now (guess it was the 21:00's :) |
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| 02:43:57 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok, I think I've fixed the resume info problem |
| 02:44:07 | JdGordon | not 100% sure it wont thrash the disk again tho |
| 02:45:52 | pixelma | I first thought it sounded good but reading your second statement - I'm not so sure anymore... |
| 02:46:53 | barrywardell | dan_a: i think my crt0 and bootloader updates are good to go into CVS. do i still need to special case for 3g ipods? will I just use the existing code? |
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| 02:47:26 | jhMikeS | Why's it show starting around 21:00 on 10 Dec if it was around noon? Today's log shows only up to ~02:45 *confused* |
| 02:47:50 | pixelma | JdGordon: of course I'll test a new patch but not now - need some sleep |
| 02:48:15 | JdGordon | sure |
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| 03:02:03 | * | jhMikeS is just going to try a blind DMA adjustment as long as the H120 takes it ok and hope for the best |
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| 03:16:43 | jhMikeS | hrm, just got the stop here on H120....rrrr |
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| 03:20:39 | jba | hey jhMikeS |
| 03:20:46 | jba | you see my message in the logs? |
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| 03:22:15 | Brins0 | heya all |
| 03:22:19 | jba | basically it was a naughty yield, that wasn't yielding in the while loop at the end of audio_stop |
| 03:22:32 | Brins0 | just need to ask this before I continue... |
| 03:23:03 | Brins0 | does anyone know where to grab the archos cinema/podcast plugins? |
| 03:23:25 | Brins0 | I was told some of you experts may know |
| 03:24:11 | linuxstb | Rockbox is a replacement firmware for various mp3 players, *not* including the current Archos range.... |
| 03:24:14 | jhMikeS | jba: yeah. good to hear you found the problem |
| 03:24:22 | Brins0 | ah, k |
| 03:24:29 | Brins0 | was worth a try, thx anyway |
| 03:24:40 | jba | cool, just thought I'd FYI you |
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| 03:32:06 | jhMikeS | hmmm...DMA stop happened to me once but at 2m 39s precisely when a disk flush starts |
| 03:35:40 | jhMikeS | and a I had a complete and valid recording indicating a stop due to an error: DSR1 & 0x70 != 0 |
| 03:40:08 | barrywardell | dan_a: do you have your 3g handy for testing? |
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| 04:35:13 | pavel_ | hey |
| 04:35:45 | pavel_ | I just want to thank yall for considering trying to find firmware replacement for the zune!! |
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| 05:24:07 | DraX | is aac realtime on iAudio X5L ? |
| 05:32:01 | Paul_the_Nerd | Some AACs are, I'm not sure if all are. |
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| 05:34:35 | DraX | Paul_the_Nerd: some? |
| 05:38:23 | Paul_the_Nerd | As far as I know, very high bitrates may not play realtime, but 128kbps ones should. |
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| 05:42:18 | DraX | so are the fonts in the WPS screenshots as ugly as they look? :) |
| 05:47:39 | Paul_the_Nerd | I can't speak to the artistic tastes of various WPS authors. I use as a primary a black and white player with a text-based WPS, so it's pretty clear I'm not that concerned about aesthetics. :-P |
| 05:47:48 | Paul_the_Nerd | They aren't antialiased, if that's what you mean |
| 05:47:55 | DraX | yeah basically |
| 05:48:33 | Paul_the_Nerd | Fonts are 1-bit, bitmapped, so antialiasing isn't really an option, nor is it considered worth bothering with. |
| 05:49:03 | DraX | understandable |
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| 06:02:12 | JdGordon | barrywardell: do you need the new crt0 tested on the nano? or already done? |
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| 06:24:30 | Mahesh | Hi every body, I have a problem with my 6GB IPOD mini 2nd generation |
| 06:25:02 | Mahesh | when i attached it to PC with USB it continuosly displays Apple and batter symbol with "!" symbol |
| 06:25:16 | Mahesh | can any body help me, what does this mean? |
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| 07:17:53 | ashes | can i reflash my old rca lyra with linux? |
| 07:20:01 | jba | hey any i300 or i100 hackers in here? |
| 07:20:14 | jba | have a question about the cyprus usb chip initialization |
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| 07:24:52 | webguest60 | ipodpatcher isn't finding the pod; ipod works and shows up as a drive in win2k - any ideas? |
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| 08:06:31 | JdGordon | anyone around who knows the voice system? I need to track down why voice is not working, the voice menus setting is set and there is an english.voice file in the proper place... where do I start looking? |
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| 08:22:02 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: You mean it stopped working in CVS? |
| 08:24:40 | * | jhMikeS might be able to get an idea with some input :) |
| 08:28:23 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:28:35 | jhMikeS | hello |
| 08:28:41 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Found my recording reports in the logs? |
| 08:29:03 | jhMikeS | yes. I know why (DMA error) but I don't know __why__ |
| 08:29:24 | amiconn | Strange thing is that it works on H1x0 |
| 08:29:44 | jhMikeS | I can make it more frequency by lower the interrupt priority. It run a few seconds and comes up with a configuration error |
| 08:29:49 | amiconn | I did not yet try to test-build for H1x0 w/o s/pdif support |
| 08:29:59 | jhMikeS | frequent |
| 08:31:07 | jhMikeS | Setting DMA1 at level3 prio 3 (not same as timers), I get DMA err: 41, DAR1: 310EC290 (pcm_buffer address), BCR1: FF000000 |
| 08:31:23 | jhMikeS | wonder why not a bus error or something |
| 08:31:49 | jhMikeS | But it's most likely due to setting it at level 6 |
| 08:32:46 | amiconn | I did a test recording of ~100 minutes on H140 y'day, which worked |
| 08:33:07 | amiconn | (line in) |
| 08:33:42 | jhMikeS | I tested right after reading the logs and it happened to me on the H120, but just once. It's definitely a DMA error from the description. |
| 08:34:00 | amiconn | You mean you got an UIE screen? |
| 08:34:15 | jhMikeS | no |
| 08:34:26 | jhMikeS | DSR1 & 0x70 type |
| 08:35:44 | jhMikeS | That type of problem will post PCMREC_STOP and stop DMA transfers |
| 08:36:13 | jhMikeS | I just found a way to make it happen reliably within a few seconds |
| 08:38:31 | jhMikeS | again I ask: why would that result in configuration errors that are supposed to occurr for alignment and size problems esp. with DMA_AA? |
| 08:38:51 | amiconn | 0x41 means bus error on destinations. That doesn't make sense.... |
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| 08:39:43 | jhMikeS | Datasheet say CE is bit 6 (0x40), no? |
| 08:39:55 | amiconn | Ah, yes |
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| 08:41:03 | jhMikeS | Datasheet also says if BCR24BIT = 1 in MPARK then bits 24-31 are supposed to be zeros, not 1s |
| 08:41:22 | jhMikeS | But I'm seeing 0xFF000000 in BCR1 |
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| 08:44:00 | amiconn | I can think of 2 possible causes for a CE even with AA. (1) Destination isn't 32 bit aligned. Iiuc this is necessary even with AA and dest size == line, because source size is 32 bit |
| 08:44:19 | amiconn | (2) BCR is zero when trying to start a transfer |
| 08:44:38 | jhMikeS | It's passed a constant from recording of 8192 bytes |
| 08:44:58 | jhMikeS | The pcm buffer is 16 byte aligned as well |
| 08:46:09 | jhMikeS | I did try starting a transfer for kicks with BCR = 0 and just got a freeze |
| 08:46:41 | amiconn | Did you check SAR and DAR when the error happens? |
| 08:47:05 | amiconn | (and DCR too, since it is now changed with |= and &= |
| 08:47:05 | jhMikeS | I just gave those numbers...see above |
| 08:47:09 | egotrippen | hey all |
| 08:47:32 | egotrippen | it's been a while since i've been here, is it alright if i ask some 'current events' stuff? |
| 08:49:30 | egotrippen | is a stable 3.0 release still a goal? or a new iriver h300 bootloader that recognizes the ac plug? |
| 08:49:54 | amiconn | I wonder whether DCR1 &= ~DMA_EEXT; in the ISR might be the problem. This isn't atomic, same as DCR1 |= DMA_EEXT; in pcm_record_more() |
| 08:50:15 | egotrippen | how's the direction of the project, and stuff? |
| 08:50:44 | jhMikeS | Might try a or_l and see |
| 08:50:53 | amiconn | You could try to replace those with and_l / or_l |
| 08:52:41 | jhMikeS | Playback has always been using |= and &= ~ as well. What would get in there and bother it anyway? |
| 08:55:52 | jhMikeS | nope, same CE bit thing |
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| 08:59:08 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering if something, because of lowering the priority, isn't getting more opportunity to clobber something. If it's that, I can't find it yet. |
| 09:00 |
| 09:00:28 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: soz, no its woring in cvs... its not working in my patch |
| 09:00:37 | JdGordon | don really know where to start looking |
| 09:02:37 | LinusN | egotrippen: i'm planning to update the bootloaders, but i am too busy atm |
| 09:03:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 09:03:51 | LinusN | i'm planning to do the rtc mod, but with a more common RTC chip with a crystal |
| 09:04:06 | LinusN | i.e not internal |
| 09:04:23 | JdGordon | h300 doesnt need an rtc mod... ? |
| 09:04:25 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: Make sure it loads the voice file for real to start with. Check talk.c out, maybe some logf-ing |
| 09:04:34 | JdGordon | ok thank |
| 09:04:35 | JdGordon | s |
| 09:04:42 | LinusN | JdGordon: who said anything about h300? |
| 09:04:56 | JdGordon | <egotrippen> is a stable 3.0 release still a goal? or a new iriver h300 bootloader that recognizes the ac plug? |
| 09:04:59 | * | jhMikeS thought there was no room in there |
| 09:05:41 | JdGordon | LinusN: oh hmm... i thought your 2 meesages were follow on... dw |
| 09:05:47 | LinusN | JdGordon: ah... |
| 09:05:52 | * | JdGordon backs away slowly |
| 09:05:58 | egotrippen | heh |
| 09:06:03 | JdGordon | that h100 rtc mod looks awesome tho |
| 09:06:07 | egotrippen | ok, thanks for the info |
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| 09:06:27 | jhMikeS | where's a link to it? |
| 09:06:35 | JdGordon | le wiki |
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| 09:06:55 | simple | hi |
| 09:06:59 | LinusN | ho |
| 09:07:03 | simple | zz |
| 09:07:31 | simple | haha |
| 09:07:57 | simple | quastion |
| 09:08:01 | simple | help me |
| 09:08:06 | JdGordon | answer |
| 09:08:08 | JdGordon | no |
| 09:08:15 | simple | plese |
| 09:08:22 | * | Bagder sighs |
| 09:08:25 | Bagder | then ASK! |
| 09:08:53 | simple | a.... very esye quastion |
| 09:08:55 | simple | plese |
| 09:08:59 | simple | a... |
| 09:09:07 | simple | easy quastion pa |
| 09:09:11 | simple | please |
| 09:09:32 | * | Bagder tries his mind reading abilities but fail |
| 09:10:03 | simple | sorry |
| 09:10:16 | egotrippen | you guys haven't implemented the ESP function yet? |
| 09:10:18 | egotrippen | jeez |
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| 09:11:40 | LinusN | simple: ASK YOUR QUESTION |
| 09:12:06 | petur | bah... yelling in the morning... yawn |
| 09:12:21 | * | LinusN needs more coffee |
| 09:13:01 | simple | a... |
| 09:13:15 | simple | ipop A/S... |
| 09:13:19 | simple | korea... |
| 09:13:45 | * | muesli__ nudges LinusN..hand some over pls! |
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| 09:14:47 | * | Bagder shakes head |
| 09:14:54 | * | jhMikeS guesses he's up schitz creek and should just set the DMA1 priority back since it works |
| 09:16:28 | LinusN | egotrippen: question is which would have been the most effective in this case, ESP or EMP |
| 09:16:51 | egotrippen | heh |
| 09:16:58 | egotrippen | i'd settle for a barrista function |
| 09:17:09 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Would be interesting to see SAR1, DAR1 and DCR1 values when the error happens |
| 09:17:19 | LinusN | i wonder, was "ipop" maybe "ipod"? |
| 09:17:29 | egotrippen | i'd guess |
| 09:17:43 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I gave 2 out of 3 them to you but I'll get them all. Gimme a minute |
| 09:17:43 | LinusN | but i don't know about the "A/S" |
| 09:17:43 | egotrippen | or maybe it was a knockoff brand, and he wondering why RB wouldn't work |
| 09:17:57 | * | petur has some Kókómjólk - or rather wished he were in a place where they had plenty of it |
| 09:18:03 | LinusN | would have made sense if Apple was a danish company :-) |
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| 09:18:34 | egotrippen | =-) |
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| 09:21:21 | amiconn | jhMikeS: 2? I only found 1: DAR1 |
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| 09:21:55 | egotrippen | so, i'm still curious... is there a desire for the 3.0 release? i kind of fell out of things when that never materialized, and when the forums changed format |
| 09:22:03 | egotrippen | what are the project goals, nowadays? |
| 09:22:14 | Bagder | egotrippen: there isn't much work on getting a 3.0 done, no |
| 09:22:31 | Bagder | the goals are still the same |
| 09:22:43 | Bagder | just no particular work done on getting a release out |
| 09:22:54 | egotrippen | ah |
| 09:23:23 | egotrippen | are there goals for more 'official' releases on other platforms? i mean, obviously the current system is working well enough for most people |
| 09:23:36 | egotrippen | i've been using a H300 build pretty much since audio started working on it |
| 09:23:45 | LinusN | goals, yes - har work to meet them, no |
| 09:23:52 | LinusN | s/har/hard/ |
| 09:23:53 | egotrippen | gotcha |
| 09:23:54 | Bagder | there's none interested in being "release manager" and I doubt we'll manage to release without that |
| 09:23:58 | jhMikeS | amiconn: hehe...I read again and realized that :) |
| 09:24:21 | Bagder | ... seeing how we failed the last time we'd have to make it differently the next time |
| 09:24:39 | petur | a bugfixing period would be good tho... I've recently started looking at some to fill up the little bits of spare time |
| 09:24:50 | jhMikeS | amiconn: DSR1: 41, SAR1: 80000074, DAR1: 310EC3A0, BCR1: FF000000, DCR1: B00E7FFF |
| 09:25:15 | egotrippen | mmmm |
| 09:26:03 | Bagder | petur: I agree an official "bug fixing period" would be a good thing |
| 09:26:29 | egotrippen | i'm.... i'm not exactly phrasing this right, but i'm kinda sorry to hear that there's not more of a concerted effort |
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| 09:26:41 | egotrippen | seems like the farther along it gets, the harder it'd be to organize |
| 09:26:48 | egotrippen | seems like the farther along it gets, the harder it'd be to organize |
| 09:26:58 | Bagder | I'm not sure about that |
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| 09:27:10 | egotrippen | sorry for the double. lag |
| 09:27:19 | Bagder | In my view, it is just about the very high goals we've had on "releases" |
| 09:27:29 | Bagder | goals that are very hard to reach and take very long time... |
| 09:27:42 | egotrippen | makes sense, yeah |
| 09:28:18 | Bagder | but also because us devs don't have a lot to win on making releases as we manage quite fine with the dailies |
| 09:28:28 | egotrippen | i just remember a main part of the push back in may was to get a bug free release, so new work wasn't built on buggy bases |
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| 09:29:06 | egotrippen | i'm not a coder, so i don't have real working knowledge of the way it goes, but |
| 09:29:17 | egotrippen | that sounded pretty good, y'know? :) |
| 09:29:22 | Bagder | I agree |
| 09:29:48 | Bagder | but our "bug fixing periods" tend to equal "only a few devs doing anything and the rest just waiting for the period to pass" |
| 09:29:55 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 09:30:27 | Bagder | (I'm not saying *I* am any better, just doing observations here) |
| 09:30:27 | terriblyinept | Meaning most devs write fairly good code with some bugs, and a few work to work out the kinks? |
| 09:30:40 | LinusN | and another problem is that the users that are supposed to test it are not running the latest version |
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| 09:31:27 | LinusN | but instead "waits until the bugs are ironed out" |
| 09:31:32 | egotrippen | eh, i'm guilty of that. i run a couple little mods that i'm not sure still apply |
| 09:31:40 | Bagder | hhehe |
| 09:32:01 | LinusN | so even if we fix bugs, we don't get the feedback we need |
| 09:32:01 | egotrippen | i keep meaning to check that, i've got a break from school coming up |
| 09:32:25 | Bagder | I'm guilty of mainly playing music non-stop from a huge playlist using a single codec... |
| 09:32:36 | terriblyinept | Would there be any means, if a user kept updated, to know what sort of things should be played with to do said testing? On the user end exclusively, of course? |
| 09:32:38 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 09:32:42 | jhMikeS | amiconn: It's interesting too that DAR1 is still at the start of the pcm chunk. Something's perhaps goofing up the size. It should be past the end of the first chunk when it BCR1 runs down. |
| 09:32:43 | LinusN | and most of the unofficial patches are kludges that will never reach cvs |
| 09:32:55 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 09:33:03 | LinusN | maybe not most, but many |
| 09:33:16 | egotrippen | one of the bigger mods i use is the 'insert albums randomly' patch |
| 09:33:26 | scorche | that was committed |
| 09:33:31 | egotrippen | oh? |
| 09:33:39 | petur | maybe we should mark such patches in the tracker as hacks that will not get in that way |
| 09:33:40 | scorche | ...i think |
| 09:33:59 | egotrippen | i knew the one from the menu, continue to random album or something was committed |
| 09:34:13 | egotrippen | but i like mine on the insert/insert next/etc. menu |
| 09:34:20 | scorche | ah |
| 09:34:36 | Bagder | petur: I've been toying with creating a new separate tracker to move patches that just won't get applied/committed, but I haven't yet sorted out what to call it nor how to use it... |
| 09:34:50 | Bagder | toying with the idea that is |
| 09:35:32 | petur | another idea I had was to have a textbox on the front page to enter a FS number in for quick access to the tracker |
| 09:35:39 | egotrippen | Bagder: maybe 'mods' versus 'patches'? |
| 09:35:46 | egotrippen | or 'potentials'? |
| 09:35:57 | egotrippen | that sounds like a good thing to mark |
| 09:36:16 | Bagder | yeah, but there needs to be a good definitions so that we don't just create another patch tracker and then have to deal with two instead of one |
| 09:36:27 | egotrippen | mm |
| 09:36:28 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 09:36:40 | terriblyinept | petur: I like that idea as a form of contribution, but as Bagder says, it seems troublesome to implement. Would it be worthwhile? |
| 09:37:21 | egotrippen | could it just be added as a marker on the current tracker? you'd need someone official to decide item to item, i guess |
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| 09:38:29 | LinusN | the thing is that we don't have an official standpoint on what type of patches are "cvs material" or not |
| 09:38:52 | LinusN | the idea might be very good but the implementation may suck |
| 09:39:02 | webguest20 | I have a problem under cygwin. When I execute ../tools/configure I get the following error message: './tools/configure: line 22: syntax error near unexpected token `{ |
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| 09:39:13 | egotrippen | sounds like you could use someone on the organizational end |
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| 09:39:20 | webguest20 | Any ideas why? |
| 09:39:28 | egotrippen | i dunno how you'd appoint someone to that position, but it might be worth looking in to |
| 09:39:56 | webguest20 | The line 22 in configure contains "input() {". Nothing special... |
| 09:40:27 | LinusN | webguest20: what shell are you using? is cygwin configured for DOS or UNIX line endings? |
| 09:42:16 | webguest20 | LinusN: I think it's bash. Everything worked until the last CVS update. I've built RB before without problems. |
| 09:43:06 | webguest20 | LinusN: I also tried sh < ../tools/configure −−> same error message |
| 09:43:10 | LinusN | i don't recall any changes in tools/configure lately |
| 09:43:43 | Bagder | not since Nov 27 |
| 09:44:04 | webguest20 | LinusN: yes, that disappointed me as well. How can I check which line endings are in effect? |
| 09:44:06 | Bagder | I blame cygwin somehow |
| 09:44:28 | preglow | one should always blame cygwin |
| 09:44:32 | LinusN | cygwin did mess something up with the shell lately |
| 09:45:05 | LinusN | but the configure script still works fine for me |
| 09:45:17 | webguest20 | Bagder: you may be right. I updated cygwin few days ago since I saw the message "update to make 3.81 to speed up builds" (or something like that) But IIRC I've built RB since then |
| 09:46:05 | webguest20 | Would you recomment to update it back to an earlier version? If yes then which? |
| 09:46:24 | preglow | amiconn: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5783 :) |
| 09:46:31 | Bagder | line 22 also happens to *NEVER* have changed... |
| 09:46:41 | Bagder | it is from the original 1.1 configure :-) |
| 09:47:29 | LinusN | i recommend finding out what the problem is |
| 09:47:31 | preglow | amiconn: wouldn't it be best if the core and plugins shared the same code somehow? i don't like duplicated code... |
| 09:48:31 | JdGordon | egotrippen: does that insert folders randomly patch still apply cleanly? I'd love to have it commited but the otheres here dont see the need, or something... |
| 09:48:36 | jhMikeS | preglow: agreed. more to maintain and debug imho |
| 09:49:44 | egotrippen | i don't know, i'll be able to check it soon |
| 09:49:49 | egotrippen | after finals week =-) |
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| 09:50:00 | egotrippen | i love having the functionality, i hope you can get it through |
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| 09:52:18 | JdGordon | does anyone like the idea of quickly going through the patches on FS and deciding as a group which features would never be commited, and which might be if done better, and which could go in whenever a dev has time? |
| 09:52:27 | egotrippen | it seems pretty self evident to me, RB being playlist based, that if the functionality should be included at all it should be in the context of playlist creation |
| 09:52:30 | JdGordon | cut the open patches count down |
| 09:52:44 | petur | I'd rather cut the open bugreports down |
| 09:52:51 | petur | much more important |
| 09:52:59 | JdGordon | true |
| 09:53:08 | JdGordon | but not as easy to close them |
| 09:53:14 | JdGordon | _work_ needs to be done :p |
| 09:53:18 | petur | heh |
| 09:53:33 | * | JdGordon doesnt even know where to start on most of the bugs |
| 09:53:35 | preglow | JdGordon: the patch tracker isn't only there as a middle-stage before commiting |
| 09:54:03 | JdGordon | ? |
| 09:54:05 | preglow | i think it should contain all kinds of patches people might find useful, but won't be commited anyway |
| 09:54:12 | preglow | perhaps we could make a 'wont-be-commited' flag |
| 09:54:45 | LinusN | i'd like to see the patch tracker as a to-be-committed only tracker |
| 09:55:24 | Bagder | perhaps one patches-for-inclusion and one patches-for-fun |
| 09:55:25 | LinusN | but possibly with a "useless" status (in bluebrother lingo) |
| 09:55:38 | preglow | i think we definitely should have a patches-for-fun place |
| 09:55:47 | LinusN | preglow: i agree |
| 09:55:54 | JdGordon | Bagder: I tinhk you'll find, most people would submit their patches in the -for-inclusion section... |
| 09:56:10 | Bagder | yes, I would also say that they should submit them there |
| 09:56:19 | Bagder | then we could move them over when we decide to |
| 09:56:21 | egotrippen | like i was saying, you'd kind of need someone to determine which is which |
| 09:56:23 | egotrippen | yeah |
| 09:56:49 | LinusN | there are basically two reasons why a patch wouldn't be committed: |
| 09:56:54 | JdGordon | either way.. can a category be added for "not going to be commited" untill something better is worked out? |
| 09:57:01 | LinusN | 1) We don't want the feature |
| 09:57:07 | LinusN | 2) The patch is badly written |
| 09:57:22 | egotrippen | it's the first that gets tricky though, yes? |
| 09:57:28 | JdGordon | yes |
| 09:57:33 | LinusN | the 2) case can be remedies, 1) can not |
| 09:57:34 | daurnimator | hey JdGordon |
| 09:57:38 | JdGordon | hey daurnimator |
| 09:57:43 | daurnimator | sup |
| 09:57:44 | LinusN | remedied, even |
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| 09:57:58 | JdGordon | 1) just needs some stong convincing |
| 09:58:11 | JdGordon | daurnimator: not much.. might be getting a neuros soon :) |
| 09:58:45 | daurnimator | an OSD? |
| 09:58:49 | JdGordon | ye |
| 09:58:53 | daurnimator | ok |
| 09:59:30 | daurnimator | when? :P |
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| 09:59:45 | JdGordon | bday is next month.. so around then probably |
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| 10:01:39 | egotrippen | the build i'm using has this bug, i dunno if you guys would know if it's fixed yet.... |
| 10:02:06 | egotrippen | immediately after turning the player on, if i hit 'stop' before the resumed song is fully loaded, the player locks up |
| 10:02:13 | egotrippen | on the H300 |
| 10:02:18 | JdGordon | I get that as weel |
| 10:02:20 | JdGordon | well |
| 10:02:28 | egotrippen | yeah? |
| 10:02:40 | egotrippen | it's not a huge deal, especially because i keep a pen around that can hit the button |
| 10:02:50 | egotrippen | but i was wondering |
| 10:03:44 | petur | the bug is in the tracker, there's a fix for it too |
| 10:04:32 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6317 |
| 10:06:09 | egotrippen | nice |
| 10:07:02 | jhMikeS | petur: my patch is hardly a real fix. that problem needs mucho work to really resolve. :) |
| 10:07:18 | JdGordon | that answers my questio then :p |
| 10:08:36 | jhMikeS | you'll get codec failures afterward. |
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| 10:13:31 | * | jhMikeS would like to make up a proper queue_send function which would eliminate that private queue in playback.c but is racking his brain on what could be fudging up recording DMA transfers when using a lower priority :) |
| 10:14:07 | petur | you mean like postmessage and sendmessage in the windows api? |
| 10:16:08 | jhMikeS | petur: yes, just like that so that each message is replied to with a value in turn instead |
| 10:19:00 | petur | gtg |
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| 10:19:14 | jhMikeS | right now when waiting, threads don't know who's particular message a value was set for and it could change back to a wait value during the yields even if the message posted was responded to |
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| 10:23:34 | bluebrother | JdGordon: I just realized that when the settings are saved in a file resetting them doesn't work like before. |
| 10:24:05 | bluebrother | how is this supposed to work then? Should still be possible |
| 10:24:20 | JdGordon | with cvs? |
| 10:24:28 | JdGordon | sorry, hmm |
| 10:24:36 | JdGordon | reset shhuold be working |
| 10:25:15 | JdGordon | I just reset on my h300 and it worked as expected |
| 10:25:25 | daurnimator | JdGordon: so... got anything cool i can play with? |
| 10:25:30 | daurnimator | eg, new player or something |
| 10:25:32 | bluebrother | no, with your patch. Haven't tried it but I realized that clearing the config block should work different |
| 10:25:45 | bluebrother | or am I wrong? Do you still check some cookie in the config block? |
| 10:25:47 | JdGordon | daurnimator: nup, you can play with fs 6399 tho :) |
| 10:25:56 | daurnimator | fs 6399?? |
| 10:26:01 | JdGordon | flyspray |
| 10:26:10 | JdGordon | bluebrother: hang on.. rese from the menu or on startup? |
| 10:26:19 | LinusN | JdGordon: does it work with both methods of reset, i.e the Rec-on-startup and the Reset in the settings menu? |
| 10:26:22 | bluebrother | I'm thinking of startup, not from a menu |
| 10:26:32 | JdGordon | both shhuold be wring |
| 10:26:46 | daurnimator | JdGordon: you should know i have nothign to test with |
| 10:26:54 | bluebrother | afaik the rec-on-startup simply makes the config block invalid, causing Rockbox to go back to defaults |
| 10:26:54 | JdGordon | bah |
| 10:27:10 | bluebrother | but if the settings are in a file this won't work anymore, does it? |
| 10:27:16 | JdGordon | both work correctly |
| 10:27:23 | bluebrother | hmm, ok. |
| 10:27:25 | JdGordon | no, rec-on-startup causes it to not load from disk |
| 10:27:47 | bluebrother | but that's handled in Rockbox then, not the bootloader anymore? |
| 10:27:59 | LinusN | it has never been handled in the loader |
| 10:28:08 | JdGordon | rec in the bootloader causes OF to load |
| 10:28:09 | bluebrother | it hasn't? |
| 10:28:12 | LinusN | never |
| 10:28:22 | bluebrother | ah, ok. You're right. |
| 10:28:24 | * | JdGordon has to go, back in a few horus |
| 10:28:42 | bluebrother | maybe I should get a coffee first before thinking of such stuff |
| 10:28:54 | * | bluebrother wrongly believed it was the bootloader |
| 10:29:29 | preglow | barrywardell: yo, what was up with the patch that made it not work on ipod? |
| 10:29:30 | bluebrother | sorry for the confusion |
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| 10:41:05 | amiconn | preglow: Didn't check the tracker and hence didn't see that patch |
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| 10:41:50 | amiconn | Anyway, the fsincos() in there is mostly a plain copy & paste from eq.c (with the addition that passing NULL for the cosine pointer is allowed if you don't need the cosine) |
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| 11:00:54 | jhMikeS | found the problem :) yay! |
| 11:01:12 | jhMikeS | or did I? crap |
| 11:01:55 | amiconn | markun: around? |
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| 11:03:46 | jhMikeS | rrrr |
| 11:05:06 | markun | amiconn: yes |
| 11:05:23 | amiconn | markun: The gigabeat does have an rtc, doesn't it? |
| 11:05:27 | markun | yes |
| 11:05:38 | amiconn | The sim doesn't see the #define for it... |
| 11:06:08 | markun | I know, but it's fixed in our source tree and will be ported back soon |
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| 11:20:13 | jhMikeS | the critical point is whether or not DMA interrupt priority is >= timer interrupt priority (4) anyway |
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| 11:24:13 | jhMikeS | or maybe if just greater than tick interrupts ... :\ |
| 11:26:02 | amiconn | That's the case in cvs, isn't it? |
| 11:26:44 | jhMikeS | amiconn: yes |
| 11:27:54 | amiconn | Cvs still causes those problems on H300 and X5 |
| 11:28:24 | LinusN | how often is the pcf50606 irq triggered, and which level is it? |
| 11:28:39 | jhMikeS | 3 |
| 11:28:50 | jhMikeS | it's on a tick task right? |
| 11:29:40 | jhMikeS | the only functional change to the DMA1 was putting it at 6 |
| 11:29:43 | amiconn | The pcf interrupt triggers when the first button is pressed (adc buttons only), and again when the last button is released |
| 11:30:12 | amiconn | (enabling and disabling the adc scan for main buttons) |
| 11:30:56 | jhMikeS | Of course H120 doesn't have the pcf, so why shouldn't DMA be able to run at level 3 prio 3 and timers at level 3 prio 0? |
| 11:31:33 | jhMikeS | ticks rather |
| 11:32:09 | LinusN | why should it? |
| 11:32:31 | LinusN | dma should have higher prio than timers imho |
| 11:32:32 | jhMikeS | LinusN: just in principle. I haven't seen anything about it that should be a problem |
| 11:33:13 | jhMikeS | And especially the face that it turns up a config error and not a bus error or something |
| 11:33:28 | LinusN | if you set both to 3, the dma irq can't interrupt the timer irq |
| 11:33:39 | amiconn | BCR1 is (effectively) zero when the error happens |
| 11:34:19 | amiconn | That looks like something is trying to start the dma when BCR1 is not yet set correctly |
| 11:34:21 | jhMikeS | It should have advance DAR1 by that time but hasn't, it's at the initial address |
| 11:36:17 | jhMikeS | recording always sets BCR1 to 8192 while running...so...hmmm |
| 11:39:06 | amiconn | What code calls pcm_record_more() apart from pcm_rec_dma_start() ? |
| 11:39:12 | amiconn | That one does look fishy... |
| 11:39:58 | jhMikeS | amiconn: pcm_rec_have_more in pcm_record.c. removing that call from pcm_rec_dma_start doesn't affect anything. |
| 11:40:18 | jhMikeS | It's specifically there to be called by the interrupt handler |
| 11:41:24 | jhMikeS | I should say "*replacing* that call" with direct register writes to start it |
| 11:44:54 | jhMikeS | pcm_record_more should probably be ICODE come to think of it :P |
| 11:45:28 | amiconn | nah |
| 11:46:03 | amiconn | That wouldn't change much. There's no loop in it, and it's only called once every 8KB iiuc |
| 11:51:55 | * | Genre9mp3 points to: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7638.0 |
| 11:55:36 | Bagder | afaik, we don't have any "check if this is the same already in the buffer and just skip back and re-use if so" |
| 11:57:01 | jhMikeS | amiconn: It's for use by recording/effects plugins as well so the can start the next transfer then process samples |
| 11:57:02 | Genre9mp3 | so this was the case always you say? |
| 11:57:06 | Bagder | Genre9mp3: indeed |
| 11:57:21 | Bagder | I believe there's a bug report for it too |
| 11:57:24 | Bagder | many years old |
| 11:57:40 | Genre9mp3 | aha...ok... good to know |
| 11:58:04 | linuxstb | That's my understanding as well. But if that's the case, why are people told to use a playlist larger than the audio buffer when testing battery runtime? Surely it doesn't matter? |
| 11:58:08 | jhMikeS | Even making the recording start sequence identical to the previous code still gives the same. |
| 11:58:36 | jhMikeS | amiconn: Did you try resetting DMA1 level back to 7 to see if the problem stops on the x5? |
| 11:59:33 | jhMikeS | not able to check myself atm |
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| 12:00:10 | * | amiconn neither |
| 12:01:56 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: good point. I thought that if the playlist wasn't larger than the audio buffer, the hd would never spin |
| 12:04:29 | jhMikeS | suppose I'll remove tick tasks systematically and see if there's a culprit |
| 12:05:34 | linuxstb | Slasheri: Can you confirm how the buffering currently works? i.e. is there any difference in buffering between playing (on repeat) a playlist smaller than the buffer size and a playlist larger than the buffer size? |
| 12:07:49 | Slasheri | linuxstb: hmm, afaik there shouldn't be any difference |
| 12:08:49 | Slasheri | buffering always tries to buffer as many files as possible |
| 12:14:28 | JdGordon | how does the resume info saving happen currently? is there a function other than settings_save() which causes a flush of the config block to disk? |
| 12:17:31 | Slasheri | there is playlist_update_resume_info() |
| 12:18:19 | JdGordon | that just calls settings_save(),which is what I thought... |
| 12:18:43 | JdGordon | so on a crash it is not 100% that the resume info will be current |
| 12:19:07 | JdGordon | any idea how often hat function is called? |
| 12:19:15 | JdGordon | time wise during playback i mean |
| 12:19:44 | Slasheri | hmm, always when buffering starts |
| 12:19:47 | Slasheri | (= disk spins up) |
| 12:19:56 | Slasheri | and when stopping playback |
| 12:20:10 | JdGordon | ok ta |
| 12:20:24 | Slasheri | linuxstb: is the ipod_fw.c yet working? :) |
| 12:20:28 | Slasheri | +btw |
| 12:20:43 | jhMikeS | let's see: usb.c, misc.c, backlight.c, button.c, lcd-h100-remote.c are all disabled and it's been going a couple minutes. did I miss anything? |
| 12:21:47 | Slasheri | hmm, tick_tasks are interfering with recording? |
| 12:23:01 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: it seems so |
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| 12:24:38 | jhMikeS | With all those disabled it ran awhile with DMA prio low but just pooped out. |
| 12:24:52 | jhMikeS | Before it would only run about 5s |
| 12:26:01 | jhMikeS | Are there any others on the H120? What other interrupts do we have there? |
| 12:26:14 | linuxstb | Slasheri: No, not yet... I'm thinking of writing my own replacement tool that edits the firmware partition directly, rather than all this messing around with extracting a partition image, then extracting firmware files, then rebuilding a partition image etc etc. |
| 12:26:58 | Slasheri | ok :) hmm, that sounds interesting |
| 12:28:19 | linuxstb | The problem is that I now understand what needs to be done, but ipod_fw.c is an order of magnitude more complex than it needs to be for Rockbox. |
| 12:32:54 | jhMikeS | Oops, missed adc_tick |
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| 12:46:11 | pixelma | JdGordon: reading your comment on flyspray... it's not true... there is a difference between cvs and your patch - config changes and resume position are not saved during rebuffering and you cannot ignore that because on all Archos which run on NiMH/Alkaline batteries rockbox doesn't do a clean shutdown but runs until the batteries are flat... |
| 12:46:54 | pixelma | ..(which is wanted)... |
| 12:47:14 | barrywardell | JdGordon: I'd be glad of a nano test of that patch if you have the time |
| 12:48:37 | pixelma | ...in CVS resume position gets written on every rebuffer (i.e. every minute in average) - in your patch it isn't - so in worst case I have to listen to my 40 songs or something that I heard before the batteries went dry - in cvs only the last minute or something |
| 12:49:19 | barrywardell | preglow: the main problem with the patch was "getting the high part of the execute adress" - it was ok on the h10/Sansa which runs from DRAM start, but on the iPod it runs from 5MB into DRAM |
| 12:50:33 | barrywardell | there were other problems too. eg. on the ipod the code in crt0 has to be below 0x100 to leave room for the boot table to be written there |
| 12:51:13 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Other interrupts shouldn't disturb recording |
| 12:51:37 | amiconn | Afaiu, recording is now on level 6, which is higher than most (all?) other interrupts |
| 12:52:23 | amiconn | But even if another interrupt delays the dma isr, all that might happen should be a loss of a few samples |
| 12:52:56 | Slasheri | in that case the recording fifo could also overflow |
| 12:53:05 | Slasheri | and case an another interrupt and crash |
| 12:53:13 | Slasheri | *cause |
| 12:53:24 | amiconn | Why would the recording fifo cause an interrupt? |
| 12:54:07 | Slasheri | ah, so that kind of interrupts are disabled |
| 12:54:21 | amiconn | All I would expect from an overflowing fifo is the loss of a few samples |
| 12:55:59 | pixelma | JdGordon: again testing CVS and patched version of the same source |
| 12:56:22 | jhMikeS | amiconn: well, I did disable all ticks and it's been on for 1/2 hour |
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| 13:06:49 | jhMikeS | I also left the tick interrupt going btw |
| 13:07:42 | jhMikeS | seems related to actually calling the tasks |
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| 13:12:09 | austriancoder | Hi all... i am looking for a volunteer for reverse engineering a mpeg2-decoder card firmware. |
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| 13:21:11 | linuxstb | :) Good luck... |
| 13:22:10 | Bagder | I'm assuming the amount of people idling here just waiting for a new project to reverse engineer is rather small... |
| 13:22:17 | jhMikeS | lol |
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| 13:30:45 | Bagder | btw, it seems austrianmicrosystems doesn't like me |
| 13:30:47 | jhMikeS | ICR1 = 0x8c; /* Interrupt on level 3.0 */ <== !!! huh? try level 7 |
| 13:30:57 | Bagder | no data sheet for me |
| 13:33:30 | jhMikeS | wait, never mind...i'm on the phone :P |
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| 13:35:08 | * | jhMikeS obviously can't discuss jewelry and interrupts simultaneously |
| 13:35:36 | petur | lol |
| 13:35:46 | linuxstb | Bagder: Did they reply or just ignore you? |
| 13:35:46 | Genre9mp3 | interrupted by phone |
| 13:35:53 | Bagder | linuxstb: they just ignore me |
| 13:36:10 | Bagder | I used their online form to request it |
| 13:36:29 | Bagder | our friend got it within a few days using the same thing |
| 13:36:47 | petur | I recently mailed targa.de regarding that mp3 player but they also ignored me :/ |
| 13:38:44 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Hmm, playback is still non-maskable (level 7)? |
| 13:39:04 | * | amiconn wonders what's so special about level 7 |
| 13:39:17 | JdGordon | pixelma: oh, ok, I didnt realise that... umm.. code wise there shuoldnt be a difference, so back to he drawing board i guess |
| 13:39:33 | JdGordon | barrywardell: ok, ill try to test it tommorrow |
| 13:39:56 | barrywardell | thanks |
| 13:39:57 | jhMikeS | amiconn: yep |
| 13:40:40 | jhMikeS | Having the tick interrupt going, but not calling tasks, and DMA at level 3 (prio 3) as well is going steady for about an hour though |
| 13:41:16 | pixelma | JdGordon: thanks! |
| 13:41:28 | JdGordon | pixelma: the fix I mentioned this morning (last night your time) would mean it would save every 30s or so, is tha ideal? |
| 13:42:43 | pixelma | donn't think so - it should only take advantage of "disk spinning" during rebuffer as it does now |
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| 13:43:15 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I had it working stable with level 6 and no disabled tick tasks on H140 for ~100 minutes |
| 13:43:34 | JdGordon | pixelma: do you know what logf option there are on the ondio? or is it sim only? |
| 13:43:40 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I only had the problem at level 6 one time on the H120 |
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| 13:48:51 | pixelma | JdGordon: that is tested on the real target. I don't know about logf options (amiconn?). But pondlife reported that nothing is written during rebuffer on H300 too - you can test yourself: play something, change some settings, let it rebuffer and then reset |
| 13:50:35 | JdGordon | ok, ive got a logf build on my h300 now, hopefully something fishy comes up |
| 13:51:06 | JdGordon | ok, umm... I may have just spotted the problem |
| 13:51:21 | JdGordon | if (ata_disk_is_active()) is called before doin any writing |
| 13:51:29 | JdGordon | which wold explain it |
| 13:52:53 | pixelma | cool, let me know when there is another patch to test :) |
| 13:53:00 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:53:37 | JdGordon | I'm not 100% sure how best to fix this... but at least im 99% sure the problem has ben found |
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| 13:53:39 | JdGordon | been* |
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| 13:56:09 | yewei | hi, I create a new lang file for rockbox. How can I commit it into cvs? |
| 13:56:17 | yewei | or how can I submit it |
| 13:56:21 | jhMikeS | wonder if I should check stack pointers to make sure they're actually in bounds on context swiches |
| 13:56:21 | JdGordon | put it on fs |
| 13:56:39 | JdGordon | yewei: flyspray, our patch tracker |
| 13:57:32 | * | JdGordon hopes this fix doesnt invoke endless config flushing |
| 13:57:49 | jhMikeS | that really wouldn't catch an interrupt going over would it? :P maybe just increase the size of the fullest one and see |
| 13:57:58 | yewei | JdGordon, put it on fs? |
| 13:58:17 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=4 |
| 13:58:28 | JdGordon | what language is it for? |
| 13:58:38 | JdGordon | or is it an update? |
| 13:59:48 | yewei | It for simplified chinese |
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| 14:01:25 | JdGordon | Bagder: does anything special need to be done when adding new languages? or do we just dump the .lang in langs? |
| 14:01:39 | Bagder | just add it |
| 14:01:42 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The stack check in switch_thread should catch any overflow |
| 14:01:43 | JdGordon | pixelma: so far so good. no infinite looping |
| 14:01:45 | Bagder | the file that is |
| 14:01:49 | JdGordon | ok |
| 14:01:58 | JdGordon | yewei: dcc me the file and ill commit ti |
| 14:01:59 | JdGordon | it |
| 14:02:04 | amiconn | (except if that overflow only writes 0xdeadbeef, which is highly unlikely) |
| 14:02:07 | JdGordon | unless there are objects? |
| 14:02:15 | JdGordon | objections* |
| 14:02:34 | jhMikeS | amiconn: what if something allocates a large buffer and doesn't use it all? |
| 14:03:08 | amiconn | Then all is well... |
| 14:03:36 | amiconn | I doubt any function allocates a buffer which it never uses |
| 14:04:08 | amiconn | ...and as soon as it uses it once, the overflow check will be triggered |
| 14:04:12 | jhMikeS | Even if the buffer starts say 16 bytes before the beginning of that stack buffer but only uses say 10 bytes? |
| 14:05:19 | amiconn | Hmm, then it won't be caught |
| 14:05:47 | jhMikeS | yeah, *could* be missed but I'm all on far-flung notions atm |
| 14:05:49 | Kasperle | wow. rockbox now uses canary words for stack protection? :D |
| 14:09:37 | yewei | hi JdGordon, I've uploaded the chinese-simp.lang as task 6425 |
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| 14:10:30 | JdGordon | ok, i hope my computer doesnt mangle it |
| 14:11:04 | yewei | ok. I'm a newbie. correct me, if I'm wrong. thx |
| 14:11:10 | jhMikeS | all I know is without calling the functions, DMA1 is happily sharing priority with the tick interrupt and the recording screen is running |
| 14:13:14 | JdGordon | yewei: done, thanks |
| 14:13:43 | * | Bagder tries a flyspray goto-box on the front page |
| 14:13:55 | Nico_P | could any of you point me to a nice IDE to use on linux ? |
| 14:14:06 | yewei | thanks Jd |
| 14:14:08 | Genre9mp3 | Go to FS in frontpage box! woa! |
| 14:14:35 | Nico_P | Bagder: i find it rather strangely placed.... |
| 14:14:43 | Bagder | where would you like it? |
| 14:14:45 | Nico_P | but it's a nice idea |
| 14:14:50 | JdGordon | above the search |
| 14:14:57 | Nico_P | i would have seen it near the search box |
| 14:14:59 | Bagder | in the menu? |
| 14:15:03 | LinusN | yes |
| 14:15:05 | bluebrother | I'd rather say below the search ;-) |
| 14:15:05 | Nico_P | yes |
| 14:15:09 | Bagder | okay |
| 14:15:18 | JdGordon | Bagder: can you make the search edit box for both but with a FS# button? |
| 14:15:35 | Nico_P | just above the search box seems good |
| 14:16:03 | amiconn | jhMikeS: The tick timer itself doesn't disable interrupts, does it? Some tick tasks might do that.... |
| 14:16:33 | Bagder | its just that our web pages are not made very nicely |
| 14:16:39 | Bagder | I blame zagor for that ;-) |
| 14:16:47 | bluebrother | Bagder: could the cvs table also auto-link FS#<number> entries? |
| 14:16:50 | Nico_P | so, no ideas on IDEs ? |
| 14:16:50 | JdGordon | what ever happened to the guy who was goin to redesign the whole thing? :D |
| 14:17:03 | Bagder | bluebrother: that's a good idea too |
| 14:17:07 | Bagder | I'll see what I can do |
| 14:17:24 | Bagder | but first I need coffee |
| 14:17:27 | bluebrother | I'd volunteer for doing some work on the website if I had the time |
| 14:17:34 | JdGordon | Bagder: and last thing for the cvs table... make it actually use the newlines from the commit message? |
| 14:17:44 | bluebrother | but unfortunately I'm lacking the time :( |
| 14:18:06 | Genre9mp3 | JdGordon: he just made some logo proposals |
| 14:18:17 | Genre9mp3 | and vanished |
| 14:18:27 | * | bluebrother likes the old logo best ;-) |
| 14:18:33 | amiconn | JdGordon: How do you add newlines in a commit msg? |
| 14:18:34 | jhMikeS | amiconn: not sure, will check each one |
| 14:18:57 | Genre9mp3 | bluebrother: Old logo??? you mean the current one ;) |
| 14:19:02 | JdGordon | amiconn: in the text editor that opens when you commit? |
| 14:19:06 | JdGordon | or are they stripped? |
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| 14:19:10 | bluebrother | exactly ;-) |
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| 14:19:41 | * | JdGordon assumes \n's were not stripped |
| 14:19:50 | jhMikeS | amiconn: backlight.c on x5 does |
| 14:20:08 | amiconn | JdGordon: I always use -m |
| 14:20:09 | jhMikeS | reading buttons from the pcf50606 does |
| 14:20:17 | bluebrother | IIRC correctly I looked in the code once and found \n not stripped (but HTML is different on that ...) |
| 14:20:32 | JdGordon | amiconn: I got out of that habbit after bad commits :p |
| 14:20:44 | jhMikeS | Keys would go dead with the remote on x5 if it didn't |
| 14:21:38 | jhMikeS | I thought IRQs were disabled at a level <= the irq level not < |
| 14:22:01 | amiconn | It is <=, except on level 7 |
| 14:22:02 | preglow | hahaha |
| 14:22:09 | LinusN | jhMikeS: that is correct, but level 7 is special |
| 14:22:48 | amiconn | JdGordon: What does -m have to do with bad commits? |
| 14:22:55 | jhMikeS | hmmm... |
| 14:23:10 | JdGordon | commiting wrong files, when you just do cvs commit -m "blaa" |
| 14:23:16 | JdGordon | and missing files and such |
| 14:23:35 | * | JdGordon thinks ata_disk_is_active() in ata_mmc.c is wrong |
| 14:23:42 | amiconn | I always do cvs commit -m "blah" <file1> ... <fileN> |
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| 14:23:50 | jhMikeS | ok, I see on p 3-6... |
| 14:23:51 | JdGordon | returning mmc_mutex.locked; is almost backwards to ata.c |
| 14:24:29 | * | petur always right-clicks on the file/tree and uses the tortoise cvs context menu :D |
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| 14:25:06 | jhMikeS | the peakmeter code disables interrupts shortly but it seems for naught on level 7. but it's still running with that. |
| 14:25:13 | amiconn | petur: It's weird... In general I prefer a GUI over the commandline, but for CVS it's different |
| 14:25:27 | amiconn | Tortoise is too heavily integrated for my taste |
| 14:25:33 | daurnimator | o.o |
| 14:25:37 | daurnimator | i like torteise |
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| 14:26:20 | petur | I only do diff and patch on commandline, the rest is via tortoise |
| 14:26:39 | daurnimator | most things i prefer cmd line |
| 14:26:51 | daurnimator | but.... version control needs an interface |
| 14:27:22 | Genre9mp3 | Bagder: The Recent CVS activity table is a bit narrow now(?) |
| 14:27:31 | jhMikeS | I do need some sort of coherency there for the peakmeters...what to do? mask it temporarily? |
| 14:28:19 | * | linuxstb_ always previews commits with cvs diff |
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| 14:28:39 | * | petur too |
| 14:28:53 | amiconn | linuxstb: I do that as well, with cvs diff >diff.txt |
| 14:29:31 | JdGordon | does anyone dissagree that ata_disk_is_active() in ata_mmc.c shhuold always return 1 ? |
| 14:29:38 | linuxstb | Or just "cvs diff | less" |
| 14:30:16 | petur | Or just right-click and select cvs diff |
| 14:30:17 | jhMikeS | if something should always return the same value why return anything? |
| 14:30:27 | * | petur hugs tortoise cvs |
| 14:30:32 | pixelma | JdGordon: if I only knew what that means |
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| 14:30:38 | JdGordon | because its mostly a dummy function in targets which use that file |
| 14:30:40 | daurnimator | jhMikeS: to keep a standard for 1 on working |
| 14:30:51 | amiconn | JdGordon: Nope |
| 14:30:53 | linuxstb | petur: At the command-line I do "cvs diff", and then edit that command to turn it into cvs commit - no chance of mistakes... |
| 14:31:11 | amiconn | ata_disk_is_active in ata_mmc is correct the way it is written |
| 14:31:39 | jhMikeS | guess you need real returns in other impl. :\ |
| 14:31:39 | JdGordon | amiconn: the problem is that unless the rest of the code is using that funtion wrongly, it means that the disk is spinnig, and not nessacerily being written to |
| 14:31:55 | amiconn | Yes, and? |
| 14:32:06 | amiconn | The MMC is active _only_ when it's accessefd |
| 14:32:10 | JdGordon | .. so settings will only ever be written on the ondio if something else is writing at the same time as we try to save them |
| 14:32:14 | amiconn | So the implementation is correct |
| 14:32:35 | amiconn | Why does settings_save check for ata_disk_is_active at all? |
| 14:32:51 | JdGordon | to not waste a spinup incase it was called too slowly |
| 14:32:53 | amiconn | That doesn't make sense, as settings_save should only register an ata callback |
| 14:33:00 | JdGordon | all the ata callbacks should do that |
| 14:33:06 | amiconn | No |
| 14:33:45 | amiconn | In fact none of the callback registering should, that's the whole purpose of the callback handling |
| 14:34:36 | amiconn | The only exception would be an asynchronous callback, but then it's not the registering which needs to do the check, but the function that's invoked by the asynchronous callback |
| 14:34:55 | JdGordon | settign saving is async |
| 14:35:04 | amiconn | Huh? |
| 14:35:17 | amiconn | That doesn't make any sense to me.. |
| 14:35:25 | JdGordon | setting saving has to be done in the main thread because it can stkov the ata thread |
| 14:35:39 | JdGordon | so a sys event is sent to all queues, handled in default handler |
| 14:35:48 | JdGordon | which then calls the actually dumping file |
| 14:36:03 | petur | ugh |
| 14:36:05 | amiconn | That's more than ugly imo |
| 14:36:11 | JdGordon | so is_active is called, which on the ondio gives the wrong return value |
| 14:36:20 | JdGordon | I know its ugly, but it works |
| 14:36:26 | amiconn | No, the value isn't wrong |
| 14:36:40 | JdGordon | I can just skip the call on the ondio |
| 14:36:55 | amiconn | The proper fix is to check why settings_save uses so much stack, and fix that |
| 14:37:13 | amiconn | Everything else is considered an ugly hack |
| 14:37:56 | JdGordon | apart from the "fluff" which gets saved (acceptable settin values" the saving file cant be optimized very much |
| 14:38:26 | amiconn | Did you check how much stack it consumes? |
| 14:38:49 | amiconn | The 'fluff', as you call it, shouldn't have any significant effect on stack usage |
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| 14:39:29 | JdGordon | I havnt checked, but it stkov'ed on bootup when I first had it calling properly |
| 14:39:48 | JdGordon | ... unless we use this as an excuse to increase the ata stack size anyway? |
| 14:40:48 | * | jhMikeS notices a train of lengthy commit descriptions of late |
| 14:41:15 | JdGordon | makes for goot morning readin :p |
| 14:42:26 | Genre9mp3 | They seem lengthier now, too |
| 14:42:38 | Genre9mp3 | the table wasn't that narrow before |
| 14:43:47 | amiconn | For some reason the right table margin is now just left from the sponsors box... |
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| 14:45:08 | pixelma | missing some </div> or </p> somewhere? |
| 14:46:28 | linuxstb | Ouch... http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rockbox.org |
| 14:46:56 | linuxstb | Seems to be a </table> missing. |
| 14:48:11 | pixelma | there are no </p>s anymore |
| 14:48:42 | JdGordon | pixelma: ok, new patch on fs... lemme know how it goes, im goin to bed |
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| 14:55:40 | Nico_P | so... what do you guys use to code rockbox ? |
| 14:55:49 | Nico_P | i've been using kate up till now |
| 14:55:56 | LinusN | emacs |
| 14:56:13 | bluebrother | gvim |
| 14:56:13 | Nico_P | :) |
| 14:56:25 | * | petur mentions M$ DevStudio and ducks |
| 14:57:05 | petur | notepad2 is nice too (on windows) |
| 14:57:13 | Nico_P | do these support things like jumping to a definition ? |
| 14:57:22 | * | n1s nags people to say what they think of http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6421 |
| 14:57:31 | Nico_P | on windows i like notepad++ |
| 14:57:40 | Nico_P | but i'm looking for soething on linux |
| 14:58:20 | Bagder | how's the flyspray box now then? |
| 14:58:44 | petur | nice |
| 14:58:46 | Nico_P | Bagder: perfect :) |
| 14:58:54 | Bagder | goodie |
| 14:59:00 | LinusN | n1s: looks ok. needs testing on all targets though |
| 15:00 |
| 15:00:16 | n1s | LinusN: ok, anybody up for testing? |
| 15:00:29 | bluebrother | Bagder: maybe add a "search" header like the other sections? |
| 15:00:39 | n1s | has been tested for several days on h300 at least |
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| 15:07:31 | pixelma | Bagder: the wiki page doesn't look right (the left side menu is too wide) propbably there are now some <p /> on it? |
| 15:08:04 | pixelma | wiki main page that is |
| 15:08:39 | Bagder | yeps, fixed now |
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| 15:10:46 | Bagder | hm, the wiki front page and the front page do show the menus very different |
| 15:11:43 | Bagder | oh well, I'll ignore that for now |
| 15:13:14 | Genre9mp3 | hehe... evey left-side menu now seems it has it's own personality :) |
| 15:13:28 | Bagder | yeah but I ignore that too for now |
| 15:13:55 | pixelma | Bagder: on the front page there are -no- </p>s anymore and on the wiki main page I could still find <p /> - checking in a different browser now (maybe a caching problem) |
| 15:13:58 | Bagder | its mostly due to crappy building of the html files |
| 15:14:18 | Bagder | due to Zagor's fondness of doing makefiles using wildcards |
| 15:14:18 | jhMikeS | ok...having no tick tasks called and just burning CPU cycles in the tick interrupt makes the problem occur just the same ... |
| 15:16:11 | amiconn | uh-oh |
| 15:18:25 | preglow | which indicates? :> |
| 15:21:21 | * | jhMikeS is indicated to be in the Twilight Zone |
| 15:24:12 | obo | Nico_P: kscope? |
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| 15:24:46 | Nico_P | obo: never heard of it... i'll look it up |
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| 15:34:20 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Hmm, so it seems we must not mask the audio dma interrupts, because latency is obvoiusly important |
| 15:35:00 | amiconn | I wonder whether using a source size of 'line' would allow for some more latency |
| 15:35:20 | jhMikeS | I suppose that is the case, yet they keep going with one another in contention (tested in a cheap reverb plugin) |
| 15:35:37 | amiconn | It should, because the audio i/f also allows movem.l for reading |
| 15:36:06 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I tried it and it was paperclip time |
| 15:36:30 | amiconn | Manual chapter 17.5 says that dma is enabled when PDIR is full, so there should be 6 samples available |
| 15:36:40 | amiconn | odd |
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| 15:38:25 | jhMikeS | 17.5 first paragraph? |
| 15:39:37 | jhMikeS | Anything but longword source froze it |
| 15:39:55 | neOliv | Hi there. |
| 15:40:09 | neOliv | posted a theme to the forum |
| 15:40:12 | neOliv | there: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7628.0 |
| 15:41:08 | neOliv | and as bascule stated I may need more permissions to upload it the the wiki gallery |
| 15:41:10 | neOliv | o:) |
| 15:41:29 | neOliv | is he right to think I may find someone able to help here? |
| 15:42:07 | petur | neOliv: wiki name? |
| 15:42:16 | neOliv | OlivierArsac |
| 15:43:33 | petur | neOliv: done... happy wiki editing ;) |
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| 15:44:08 | neOliv | thx! THAT is fast service! |
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| 15:51:30 | Nico_P | obo: thanks for poiting me toward kscope, it's the best i've found so far |
| 15:53:38 | x1jmp | Is it possible to use some MiB of RAM in a plugin? |
| 15:54:00 | Bagder | x1jmp: if you "eat" the music buffer |
| 15:54:31 | x1jmp | Bagder: that's just around 3 MiB on my iriver |
| 15:54:38 | Bagder | what? |
| 15:54:46 | Bagder | it's more like 30 |
| 15:54:52 | x1jmp | RAM, but the h120 semms to have 32 |
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| 15:58:06 | x1jmp | ah, i misread the number of the audio buffer ;) |
| 15:58:43 | x1jmp | can it be used safely some way (when playing music)? |
| 15:59:08 | n1s | no playback has to be stopped |
| 15:59:53 | Bagder | with music, you can only use the plugin buffer |
| 16:00 |
| 16:00:02 | Bagder | which is the rest of the memory where the plugin itself is loaded into |
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| 16:02:39 | Moos | Grr...! no JdGordon around :( |
| 16:03:18 | x1jmp | could music still work, if i only use space at the end of the audio buffer? |
| 16:03:23 | Bagder | no |
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| 16:04:25 | Moos | if you read the logs JdGordon: you seems to have broken the "save settings" before shutdwon since days and days now :( no possibility to use dir/tagcache anyway cause the settings doesn't save (your ata changes) |
| 16:04:51 | x1jmp | ok, thank you |
| 16:05:10 | petur | Moos: don't they save when you rolo? |
| 16:05:30 | Moos | hi petur, didn't try |
| 16:05:38 | Moos | let's see ... |
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| 16:08:44 | Kasperle | that's interesting. i've been using the same rockbox build for one to two weeks now, and yesterday it started losing its settings |
| 16:09:00 | neOliv | petur: thx for the wiki edit permissions. first submission done. |
| 16:09:13 | neOliv | hope it will prove useful ;) |
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| 16:17:36 | jhMikeS | amiconn: is movem atomic? |
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| 16:25:03 | amiconn | Moos: This should be fixed as of 06-Dec |
| 16:25:47 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Atomic in what way? |
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| 16:27:35 | jhMikeS | amiconn: as in movem.l %d0-%d3,(%a0) will occur without interruption for example? |
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| 16:28:09 | Moos | amiconn: that what I thought too, but it seems that the bug is still here, I use one yesterday night build |
| 16:28:59 | terriblyinept | Odd question, and maybe I'm a bit too concerned with how things function, but is anyone aware of how a dualboot for the H10 would work? |
| 16:29:06 | Moos | amiconn: no possibility to use dircache or database correctly since few days now, frustration here :( |
| 16:29:26 | amiconn | database works fine here |
| 16:30:50 | Moos | here, if I don't activate db, it show me "-1" in the db debug screen for the progress, then, it canot do commit steps |
| 16:31:40 | Moos | I discovered this annoying bug unfortunatly, in turning off the dircache option, and since canot use the chaches anyway :( |
| 16:31:40 | x1jmp | Is there any flash based device which runs rockbox? |
| 16:31:41 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I don't know |
| 16:32:04 | Bagder | x1jmp: archos ondio, ipod nano, sandisk sansa possibly in the future |
| 16:32:16 | amiconn | ...and Iriver iFP 7xx |
| 16:32:23 | amiconn | (also not yet playing music) |
| 16:32:46 | Moos | amiconn: can you enable the dircache thing for see the bug? |
| 16:33:01 | Moos | like I know you don't use it :) |
| 16:33:10 | x1jmp | how fast is the flash storage in comparison to ram? |
| 16:33:20 | amiconn | You cannot compare them |
| 16:33:41 | amiconn | Mass storage flash isn't directly addressable like ram or flash eprom |
| 16:33:50 | petur | and it has limited write cycles |
| 16:34:16 | amiconn | Access speed depends on the interface, mostly |
| 16:35:00 | x1jmp | adn how long does it take until the first bytes of data arrives after a request (HDD players need some seconds to spin the disk up)? |
| 16:35:47 | jhMikeS | amiconn: can't find any info either but it seems like a burst couldn't be interrupted or it would screw up |
| 16:36:46 | Bagder | x1jmp: what request? |
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| 16:37:58 | x1jmp | Bagder: When I want to read a file on a HDD which is not spinning it needs a few seconds until I get the data, how fast are flash devices in that case? |
| 16:38:08 | Bagder | milliseconds |
| 16:38:28 | Bagder | or possibly less |
| 16:38:40 | x1jmp | ok |
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| 16:56:17 | barrywardell | terriblyinept: dualboot on the H10 will give the option to load either Rockbox or the Original Firmware on startup by holding a button as it boots |
| 16:57:54 | terriblyinept | barrywardell: *nods* I understand the concept. I understand you're the developer? I was actually wondering, if you had the time, about what the strategy for getting dualboot running is? A patched version of the H10 firmware with the Rockbox bootloader attached, or something else? |
| 16:58:21 | barrywardell | I have a working version running myself |
| 16:58:52 | barrywardell | at the moment it just boots a decrypted version of the H10 firmware that's in a file on disk |
| 17:00 |
| 17:00:07 | barrywardell | So, the Rockbox bootloader replaces the H10 firmware (stored in a mi4 file) and then loads either rockbox.h10 or OF.bin from disk |
| 17:01:37 | terriblyinept | How was the decryption managed? Did you do that on your own? |
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| 17:03:03 | Bagder | terriblyinept: H10 uses the mi4 file format which was cracked by our friend using the name MrH |
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| 17:05:09 | terriblyinept | terriblyinept: Good, good. Do you foresee any minor problems, past the point of implementing the dualboot, with using a decrypted version of the H10 firmware? |
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| 17:06:22 | terriblyinept | barrywardwell: Pardon me for all the questions. |
| 17:12:22 | barrywardell | not really |
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| 17:12:57 | barrywardell | it should be possible to even use a normal H10 firmware without having to decrypt it first |
| 17:13:16 | barrywardell | and just get the Rockbox bootloader to decrypt it |
| 17:13:32 | amiconn | Argh, LinusN left... |
| 17:13:51 | barrywardell | terriblyinept: sorry for the delayed response |
| 17:14:28 | terriblyinept | barrywardell - I wanted to thank you for your work for porting Rockbox to the H10. If there's anything I can do on the user end, or learn about to contribute as a developer, leave me a message. I'm headed out for now. I'm getting an H10 today, I believe the 5G model, in the mail. |
| 17:16:00 | terriblyinept | barrywardell - (I've worked with Rockbox on the H10 already; not yet on the 5G, though.) |
| 17:16:26 | barrywardell | the best thing you can do is testing and reporting problems. there's loads of information about starting to contribute as a developer in the wiki |
| 17:16:51 | terriblyinept | barrywardell - Thanks! Have a great day. |
| 17:17:38 | * | amiconn found something very suspicious regarding CACR |
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| 17:21:15 | preglow | what? |
| 17:24:42 | amiconn | Check firmware/target/coldfire/crt0.S line 174 and firmware/target/coldfire/system-target.h line 137, and the MCF5249UM.pdf page 84 |
| 17:24:54 | amiconn | The invalidate bit is bit 28, not bit 24 |
| 17:25:43 | amiconn | Bit 9 also doesn't match the comment |
| 17:27:18 | preglow | do we have any trouble that might be caused by this? |
| 17:29:25 | markun | amiconn: does it make sense to have CPU_DEFAULT = 100MHz? I don't see an easy way to clock it any lower. |
| 17:30:04 | preglow | the crystal freq is 100mhz??? |
| 17:31:44 | markun | No, 16.9MHz |
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| 17:32:26 | markun | but the timing for the LCD depends on HCLK which depends on FCLK (CPU clock) |
| 17:32:49 | markun | I will read the datasheets a bit more, maybe I missed something |
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| 17:37:57 | Slasheri | amiconn: i see there is CINV bit but it's not told what bit that is, weird |
| 17:38:42 | amiconn | Oh |
| 17:38:59 | Slasheri | the bit 28 (CPDI) does not look the correct one either |
| 17:39:06 | amiconn | true |
| 17:39:18 | amiconn | Looks like I confused the missing CINV and CPDI |
| 17:41:12 | amiconn | The SCF5250 manual shows bit 24 is indeed CINV |
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| 17:53:07 | barrywardell | linuxstb: I think i have a universal binary ipod_fw for you. I can only test on my ppc mac though |
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| 17:55:14 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Nice. Give it to Bagder so he can put it on download.rockbox.org (I can't test on Intel either - we'll soon know if there are problems). |
| 17:56:32 | barrywardell | http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/ipod_fw |
| 17:57:21 | barrywardell | I think Bagder is away at the moment, so I'll point him to that file next time I see him |
| 17:57:34 | linuxstb | What was involved in compiling it? |
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| 17:59:34 | barrywardell | make an xcode standard command line project, in project settings make sure to use the universal target SDK (in general settings), and set architectures to "ppc i386" in build settings. |
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| 18:03:13 | linuxstb | OK. I should probably upgrade to a recent xcode and try it. |
| 18:04:29 | barrywardell | yes, you need a fairly recent version - i have 2.3 |
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| 19:28:01 | PaulPosition | duh.. Nevermind, a typo on my part :blush: |
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| 19:59:17 | piquadrat | hi everybody. I'm trying to apply the latest scrobbler.patch, but there are several rejects. Someone got a build for iAudio X5 with scrobbler? |
| 19:59:38 | petur | scrobbler is in the cvs version |
| 19:59:50 | petur | just enable it in the settings |
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| 20:00:16 | petur | General -> playback -> Last.fm |
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| 20:00:24 | piquadrat | ah, cool, didn't know that |
| 20:00:46 | * | pixelma points towards http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LastFMLog |
| 20:01:43 | piquadrat | awesome! Thank you! |
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| 20:04:35 | vertic23 | hey, I got some problems with my player (iAUDiO x5v) |
| 20:04:48 | vertic23 | it stucks when I try to play mp3 ...nothing happens - frozen |
| 20:04:54 | vertic23 | yesterday everything was fine |
| 20:06:10 | petur | did you update rockbox inbetween? |
| 20:06:14 | vertic23 | no |
| 20:06:28 | vertic23 | I still got a CVS daily build from 9-22-2006 |
| 20:06:44 | vertic23 | should I try doing a new one? |
| 20:06:58 | petur | or reset your settings |
| 20:07:14 | vertic23 | ...how do I do that |
| 20:07:39 | vertic23 | doing the reset button on the player? |
| 20:07:50 | petur | no |
| 20:08:11 | petur | hold rec while rockbox starts I think |
| 20:08:39 | vertic23 | ah okay |
| 20:08:55 | petur | or menu -> manage settings |
| 20:08:58 | vertic23 | I'm doing scandisk atm ...after that I'll try |
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| 20:21:38 | vertic23 | ok |
| 20:21:43 | vertic23 | won't work... at all |
| 20:21:56 | vertic23 | how to proceed |
| 20:22:05 | vertic23 | maybe I'll try a new daily build? |
| 20:22:37 | vertic23 | fuck ...hopefully my player isn't fucked up |
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| 20:25:22 | Mongey | Any french people here? |
| 20:26:28 | Nico_P | Mongey: yes |
| 20:26:28 | * | Mongey waits |
| 20:26:32 | Mongey | :o |
| 20:26:37 | Mongey | wanna help me out? |
| 20:26:43 | Nico_P | sure |
| 20:26:50 | Mongey | im doing a project on french Tv stations |
| 20:27:18 | Mongey | so i was wondering what the main tv station is |
| 20:27:32 | Mongey | and what type of shows are on it |
| 20:27:58 | Nico_P | I'd say the main station is TF1 |
| 20:28:12 | Nico_P | even though it's not the best ^^ |
| 20:28:17 | vertic23 | how do you update the daily build? |
| 20:28:26 | vertic23 | do I delete .rockbox? |
| 20:28:38 | vertic23 | and then put the latest on it again? |
| 20:28:44 | Nico_P | Mongey: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TF1 |
| 20:28:45 | vertic23 | or how do I update rockbox |
| 20:29:09 | n1s | vertic23: copy a new build on top of your old |
| 20:29:16 | Nico_P | vertic23: you just unzip your new version in the root of your DAP, overwriting everything |
| 20:29:22 | vertic23 | okay |
| 20:29:28 | Mongey | Nico_P: thanks |
| 20:30:21 | vertic23 | and now I am fixed hopefully :P |
| 20:31:16 | Nico_P | Mongey: you should also have a look at "France Télévisions"... it's the public stations |
| 20:31:22 | Nico_P | very important too |
| 20:31:35 | Mongey | what about TV5 ? |
| 20:31:37 | * | petur returns |
| 20:31:43 | vertic23 | wb petur |
| 20:32:29 | Nico_P | TV5 is only available on digital TV, so it's not very popular |
| 20:32:32 | vertic23 | aight... new daily build fixed it! |
| 20:32:38 | vertic23 | I am so happy |
| 20:32:42 | petur | weird |
| 20:32:44 | vertic23 | which theme are you using |
| 20:32:55 | petur | icatcher |
| 20:32:56 | Mongey | ty so much |
| 20:32:58 | Mongey | :D |
| 20:33:01 | Mongey | gtg |
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| 20:36:21 | vertic23 | petur is this one available for my X5V? |
| 20:36:43 | petur | it should be, it comes with the default install |
| 20:36:48 | vertic23 | ah |
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| 20:37:14 | Genre9mp3 | s/should be/is |
| 20:37:32 | vertic23 | hehe |
| 20:37:35 | vertic23 | yeah got it.. |
| 20:37:40 | * | petur points to Genre9mp3 and whispers 'creator' |
| 20:37:43 | vertic23 | it's Browsing .wps files, right? |
| 20:37:54 | * | Genre9mp3 hides |
| 20:38:59 | vertic23 | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/data/160x128x16/S3TUP_05.png <−−- |
| 20:39:06 | vertic23 | I wish it would look like this here |
| 20:39:12 | vertic23 | but the text is all over the right side |
| 20:39:24 | petur | vertic23: browse themes |
| 20:39:39 | vertic23 | well... I just "activated" this theme |
| 20:39:50 | vertic23 | and.. the "text"-part is way too much right |
| 20:39:58 | vertic23 | so I can't read what I am listening etc. |
| 20:40:22 | petur | how long before you'll make your own custom wps? :) |
| 20:41:08 | vertic23 | hehe, well.. it should work, right? |
| 20:41:16 | vertic23 | because it's for my player... |
| 20:41:26 | vertic23 | hmm, maybe it has been updated.. checking... |
| 20:41:33 | petur | some themes require unofficial builds or patched builds |
| 20:41:46 | vertic23 | ah.. wait.. it needs another font |
| 20:41:54 | vertic23 | uwe_prop |
| 20:42:05 | vertic23 | is it on it already (in general) |
| 20:42:16 | petur | did you install the fonts |
| 20:42:31 | vertic23 | yea |
| 20:42:37 | vertic23 | got it ...should work ... |
| 20:42:42 | vertic23 | just checked that |
| 20:42:51 | vertic23 | but still the "aspect-ratio" is kinda wrong |
| 20:42:56 | petur | then make sure you use the theme to install, not the wps |
| 20:43:13 | petur | theme = wps + other settings like font |
| 20:46:16 | vertic23 | hmm, and where can I do it... or _how_? |
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| 20:46:25 | vertic23 | I'm not sure if I know what you are talking about |
| 20:46:46 | petur | just a sec |
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| 20:48:05 | petur | strange, font is included and the theme has theme cfg file and wps file |
| 20:48:48 | vertic23 | hmm |
| 20:48:51 | petur | what's the problem really? |
| 20:48:59 | vertic23 | do you want me to make a photo -g- |
| 20:49:17 | vertic23 | all the id3 stuff - and battery display is way too much right |
| 20:49:20 | vertic23 | so I can't read it |
| 20:49:34 | vertic23 | it's like this "Battery: 7" |
| 20:49:44 | vertic23 | Battery: 70% would be the whole info |
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| 20:50:08 | vertic23 | ..but after the 7 the LCD display is ending -g- |
| 20:50:31 | petur | can you manually select the font he mentions? |
| 20:50:39 | vertic23 | how do you mean? |
| 20:50:42 | vertic23 | manually |
| 20:50:46 | vertic23 | I know I got this font |
| 20:51:34 | petur | and did you unzip the whole theme onto your player (theme and wps dir)? |
| 20:51:54 | petur | and then selected it by using 'browse themes'? |
| 20:52:06 | vertic23 | yeah |
| 20:52:22 | vertic23 | no |
| 20:52:25 | vertic23 | actually not.. :P |
| 20:52:29 | vertic23 | I did browse .wps :P |
| 20:52:34 | petur | ah |
| 20:52:35 | vertic23 | where is browse themes |
| 20:52:36 | petur | wrong |
| 20:52:52 | petur | go to menu |
| 20:52:55 | petur | there it is |
| 20:53:07 | vertic23 | omg.. |
| 20:53:27 | vertic23 | hmm but still this theme sucks -g- |
| 20:53:35 | petur | rofl |
| 20:53:36 | vertic23 | because he doesn't scroll the titles.. |
| 20:53:50 | vertic23 | so I only can read the first x letters of a title.. bah |
| 20:54:09 | petur | ah, that's because standard rockbox doesn't do scrolling and margins together |
| 20:54:17 | vertic23 | hmm |
| 20:54:21 | vertic23 | okay |
| 20:54:29 | petur | come back next year ;) |
| 20:54:34 | vertic23 | I see :P |
| 20:54:43 | vertic23 | with my old silk theme it worked anyway |
| 20:55:42 | vertic23 | DancePuffDuo rocks =) |
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| 20:55:49 | vertic23 | but now he took the gay orange... |
| 20:56:06 | petur | hahaha |
| 20:56:25 | petur | some themes don't reset everything |
| 20:56:47 | vertic23 | wah |
| 20:56:48 | vertic23 | sucks :P |
| 20:58:18 | vertic23 | ok |
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| 20:58:26 | vertic23 | I love my mp3 player again =) |
| 20:58:41 | vertic23 | today was the first day without it |
| 20:58:48 | vertic23 | it was horrible |
| 20:59:28 | * | petur wonders where the cfg files are in cvs |
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| 21:01:51 | linuxstb | petur: I think they're generated from wps/WPSLIST |
| 21:01:51 | pixelma | IIUC they are generated from the wps-files and WPSLIST |
| 21:02:02 | pixelma | haha :) |
| 21:02:09 | linuxstb | Scary... |
| 21:02:14 | petur | linuxstb wins |
| 21:02:57 | n1s | does databox, work with the current database? |
| 21:03:25 | n1s | we build it but it includes database.h from the old database... |
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| 21:04:40 | linuxstb | No, I don't think it works. I think it's left in case someone wants to adapt it for the database formally known as tagcache. |
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| 21:05:10 | n1s | will anybody cry if I disable building it (not deleteing) |
| 21:05:20 | tucoz | I talked with HCl about it some time ago |
| 21:05:32 | linuxstb | I won't. I wouldn't even cry if you deleted it (CVS remembers...) |
| 21:05:47 | petur | macho! |
| 21:05:52 | preglow | linuxstb: time to delete libFLAC? :-) |
| 21:05:53 | tucoz | I think we agreed (sort of) that it is safe to delete it |
| 21:06:22 | tucoz | I can not remember when this discussion was though. |
| 21:06:35 | n1s | ok, I'll do it |
| 21:06:42 | tucoz | Is dumb still built? |
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| 21:07:55 | linuxstb | preglow: I don't think we'll ever want the decoder, but what about encoding? |
| 21:09:32 | preglow | linuxstb: been a while since i encoded a flac, but i think i remember concluding it's not entirely realistic |
| 21:09:50 | preglow | but if we ever do do encoding, let's please use flake or something instead of libflac, i hate libflac :> |
| 21:10:39 | linuxstb | flake is floating point... |
| 21:10:51 | linuxstb | Or at least, uses some floating point. |
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| 21:11:04 | preglow | so does libflac |
| 21:11:11 | preglow | the entire lpc deal is floating point based, afaik |
| 21:11:26 | preglow | hmm, or no, i might be thinking about something else |
| 21:11:41 | linuxstb | I thought the libFLAC issue with encoding were the wide use of 64-bit integers. |
| 21:11:49 | preglow | yeah, that's what i remembered too |
| 21:12:36 | preglow | but can't just whoever does encoding recommit it? i don't know what i think about keeping code around in cvs "in case it's needed" |
| 21:12:47 | preglow | i'd also like to remove dumb for the same reason |
| 21:12:54 | amiconn | Hehe, I had to use some trickery in bounce.c to avoid using 64 bit ints |
| 21:13:13 | linuxstb | preglow: Well, I can't bring myself to do it, but wouldn't shout if you did. |
| 21:13:25 | * | tucoz notices a new search box on rockbox.org. Nice :) |
| 21:13:44 | amiconn | The cordic fsincos has nice precision, but the angle argument spanning the full 32 bit range isn't very handy |
| 21:13:54 | preglow | amiconn: why not? i find that extremely handy |
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| 21:14:24 | preglow | it's very precise, and you get free phase wrapping if you do calculations on the argument |
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| 21:15:15 | barrywardell | PaulPosition: i've got an updated bootloader patch. crossfeed and pitch adjustments now work. and it works on ipod color. were there any other problems that you noticed? |
| 21:15:21 | amiconn | You cannot do a full circle in N steps without roundoff problems if you don't either go 64 bit for intermediates or take special care and process the remainder (as I did) |
| 21:16:02 | preglow | amiconn: what format would you prefer it to be in? |
| 21:17:28 | amiconn | Hmm, and the free phase wrapping isn't exact iiuc |
| 21:17:47 | amiconn | The comment says 0..0xffffffff equals 0..2*pi |
| 21:17:56 | preglow | not exactly true |
| 21:18:00 | amiconn | ...so 0x100000000 is slightly more than 2*pi |
| 21:18:07 | preglow | 0xffffffff is _almost_ 2pi, if i remember |
| 21:18:09 | preglow | correctly |
| 21:18:16 | amiconn | It says so in the comments... |
| 21:18:26 | preglow | the comments weren't changed for the new implementation, obviously |
| 21:18:47 | preglow | but anyway, i don't know, the new sincos is done by safetydan, and i don't know how it works |
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| 21:19:17 | amiconn | "phase has range from 0 to 0xffffffff, representing 0 and 2*pi respectively." |
| 21:19:34 | preglow | not even true for the old implementation |
| 21:19:42 | preglow | so that's not completely accurate, no |
| 21:20:03 | preglow | unless my recollection is far off, 0xffffffff will be 2*pi - 1/0xffffffff |
| 21:20:36 | preglow | but anyway, that sincos is intended more for dsp than anything else |
| 21:20:51 | preglow | in what form would you prefer the argument to be? |
| 21:21:29 | amiconn | Not 100% sure, but certainly something that leaves room for multiplication without overflowing 32 bits |
| 21:21:39 | preglow | that would be way too imprecise for dsp |
| 21:21:47 | preglow | two different implementations would probably be a good idea |
| 21:21:55 | amiconn | hmm |
| 21:22:00 | preglow | the other sin/cos implementation i am thinking of putting in also uses the very same argument format |
| 21:22:21 | preglow | https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/astroinfo/trunk/astroinfo/source/FixedPoint.c <- this one |
| 21:22:35 | preglow | it's more precise, and might even be faster than the current one |
| 21:24:04 | amiconn | Forget the m68k asm in there |
| 21:24:09 | petur | regarding http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6010 : would http://pastebin.ca/275786 be a solution that is too simple? Hard menu recursion protection |
| 21:24:15 | amiconn | It's not coldfire compatible |
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| 21:25:57 | preglow | amiconn: i'm not talking about that |
| 21:26:02 | preglow | amiconn: i'm talking about the generic c |
| 21:26:22 | preglow | amiconn: the m68k asm is worthless for us anyway, it assumes a 16 bit multiplier, and we've got a better one |
| 21:26:47 | tucoz | would it be ok if we stopped building dumb? |
| 21:26:51 | preglow | tucoz: hell yes |
| 21:26:52 | amiconn | Why would we need 2 sin/cos implementations? |
| 21:26:55 | preglow | tucoz: i'd even like to delete it |
| 21:27:02 | preglow | amiconn: this one would replace the one we've got |
| 21:27:04 | tucoz | hmm. that could be arranged |
| 21:27:16 | lowlight | tucoz: here...http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/remove_dumb.patch.txt |
| 21:27:17 | preglow | amiconn: like i said, it's more accurate, perhaps faster, and probable smaller in code size |
| 21:27:25 | tucoz | lowlight, hehe |
| 21:27:26 | amiconn | It's more accurate? |
| 21:27:26 | tucoz | ok |
| 21:27:29 | preglow | amiconn: yup |
| 21:27:31 | lowlight | been sitting on that |
| 21:27:32 | amiconn | Interesting... |
| 21:27:43 | preglow | amiconn: i'm almost 100% sure, i wrote a small test program |
| 21:28:18 | tucoz | lowlight, i think my local copy is equal as your patch :) |
| 21:28:33 | Lear | Anyone ever heard of Cygwin being much slower on some computers? And if so, what it might be caused by? |
| 21:28:38 | lowlight | preglow: you might as well remove libflac. if someone wants to make an encoder then then they should start with the newer 1.1.3 |
| 21:28:42 | amiconn | preglow: Smaller and faster is always good, and if it's more precise as well... |
| 21:28:51 | preglow | amiconn: btw, i tested the sin/cos routines separately, not the sincos combined one |
| 21:28:59 | amiconn | But somehow I doubt it's smalkler, the current one is very compact already |
| 21:29:13 | preglow | amiconn: yeah, that's just a guess i have, i've yet to see if it's true |
| 21:29:29 | amiconn | Even on SH it's just ~160 bytes code and 128 bytes table data |
| 21:29:37 | amiconn | Arm and coldfire are smaller |
| 21:30:31 | * | linuxstb remembers you can't delete directories in CVS... |
| 21:30:32 | amiconn | SIze doesn't matter that much here |
| 21:31:05 | preglow | \o/ |
| 21:31:09 | amiconn | linuxstb: But they should be pruned if they're empty and you cvs up -dP |
| 21:31:13 | amiconn | ? |
| 21:31:22 | * | preglow mutters "svn" |
| 21:33:12 | tucoz | amiconn, i think that is correct |
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| 21:34:06 | tucoz | at least the empty manual directories gets pruned by -dP |
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| 21:35:18 | amiconn | It's the -P which does this |
| 21:35:23 | tucoz | ok |
| 21:35:36 | * | linuxstb commits the death of libFLAC |
| 21:35:39 | donutman | hello, sorry to be a pain in the a** for asking, but ive not kept up with rockbox progress for a while and want to find something out quick- do you have video with sound and/or radio on the h10 yet? |
| 21:36:17 | preglow | no |
| 21:36:44 | * | preglow spits on libFLAC's remains |
| 21:37:06 | linuxstb | I feel so much lighter now... |
| 21:37:27 | preglow | linuxstb: do dumb in the same go? |
| 21:37:44 | linuxstb | No, just FLAC. I know nothing about dumb. |
| 21:38:07 | lowlight | dumbs not used |
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| 21:38:13 | preglow | still compiled, isn't it? |
| 21:38:16 | tucoz | only built |
| 21:38:17 | tucoz | yes, it is |
| 21:38:24 | linuxstb | preglow: Good point... |
| 21:38:46 | preglow | so removing that will actually have some practical benefit as well, heh |
| 21:38:50 | * | linuxstb leaves the pleasure of dumb to someone else |
| 21:39:14 | preglow | ah, that was the nicest cvs update i've seen in a while |
| 21:39:24 | lowlight | here...http://www.geocities.com/m_arigo/rockbox/remove_dumb.patch.txt |
| 21:39:33 | lowlight | and then remove the directory |
| 21:39:48 | * | tucoz can do that, in case no one else wants to |
| 21:39:58 | lowlight | go ahead |
| 21:40:04 | preglow | go ahead |
| 21:40:06 | * | preglow goes brb |
| 21:40:15 | tucoz | aight |
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| 21:40:57 | amiconn | http://www.rockbox.org/cvsmod/chlog-2006-12-11%2020:35:56.html <== huh? |
| 21:41:15 | linuxstb | amiconn: I was just looking at that... |
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| 21:44:30 | PaulPosition | Barrywardell - Hi... Say, is that last e200-dualboot-v2 patch specific to e200? (ie, did you erase the dualboot code for H10s?) |
| 21:44:40 | * | Genre9mp3 wonders why someone would leave his telephone number in a mailing list... |
| 21:44:56 | barrywardell_ | no, it should apply to the h10 too |
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| 21:45:43 | tucoz | hmm. to remove dumb, i'll have to first delete all the files locally, and then cvs remove them right? |
| 21:45:49 | PaulPosition | barrywardell - Gives me a rockbox error -1, but I might have f*** something.. Rockbox loads fine though. |
| 21:46:12 | barrywardell | it expects the file to be called OF.bin now, rather than Original.mi4 |
| 21:46:15 | * | n1s likes when everybody rates the severity of 'their' bugs as 'high' or 'critical' :-/ |
| 21:46:28 | barrywardell | tucoz: yes |
| 21:46:38 | PaulPosition | barrywardell - Ah, should have looked at the code I guess. Thanks, I'll try that. :) |
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| 21:47:19 | PaulPosition | barry - Still decrypted and beheaded? |
| 21:47:36 | tucoz | barrywardell, do you know if it is possible to do this recursively and with wild cards? |
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| 21:47:58 | barrywardell | PaulPosition: yup. thee only change is renaming the file |
| 21:48:28 | amiconn | barrywardell: Why not use <insertfavouritename>.sansa the same way as the rockbox binaries? |
| 21:48:28 | PaulPosition | Thanks. :) And how is that Sansa port going? A friend of mine just ordered three of 'em for the whole family.. :p |
| 21:48:36 | barrywardell | tucoz: not sure. i think cvs does accept wildcards |
| 21:48:46 | amiconn | The header could indicate that this is the original firmware and needs special treatment |
| 21:48:57 | amiconn | The same file could then be used to rolo the of |
| 21:49:03 | tucoz | barrywardell, thanks. i'll see what google says. |
| 21:49:50 | barrywardell | good point amiconn. i'd left the header out for simplicity up to now |
| 21:50:06 | barrywardell | but it would definitely be good to keep it eventually |
| 21:51:01 | PaulPosition | barrywardell - Works great, albeit frighteningly fast to load the OF, much faster than, well, the OF on itself. :o |
| 21:51:28 | n1s | heh :-) |
| 21:51:40 | PaulPosition | thanks :D The crossfeed and pitch don't freeze anymore either, very well done. |
| 21:52:15 | barrywardell | wow, great! possibly faster because it doesn't need to be decrypted by the player |
| 21:52:35 | linuxstb | Anyone here with win2k and an ipod? |
| 21:53:31 | amiconn | Hmm, .mi4 files are loaded from disk and decrypted every time? Or are they loaded once and then flashed? |
| 21:53:36 | PaulPosition | barrywardell - Makes a lot of sense yes. :thumbsup: |
| 21:54:52 | barrywardell | amiconn: decrypted every time on the H10. they're flashed on the Sansa, but I'm not sure if they're decrypted first. |
| 21:57:21 | petur | amiconn: any problem with preventing main menu recursion the hard way? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6010 patch at the bottom. Or isn't life this simple? |
| 21:59:33 | amiconn | This is just the main menu itself, right? |
| 21:59:41 | petur | yes |
| 21:59:57 | amiconn | I can't imagine we want the same menu active 2 times |
| 22:00 |
| 22:00:05 | amiconn | I think that should work |
| 22:00:09 | petur | ok |
| 22:01:44 | * | amiconn hopes the main menu doesn't have more than one return path |
| 22:02:03 | tucoz | brb |
| 22:02:11 | petur | no it doesn't |
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| 22:07:32 | amiconn | The menu recursion hard-crashes on recorder |
| 22:07:41 | amiconn | I04: IllInstr |
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| 22:09:47 | amiconn | If I go back after 4 recursions, it does a different thing. First it displays all files in plugins (as if it would be 'show all'), and after leaving everything, the red led starts flashing quickly, with the buttons frozen |
| 22:10:05 | petur | hehe |
| 22:10:22 | petur | for me it also showed all plugins, but with the extensions flashing |
| 22:10:35 | preglow | haha |
| 22:10:42 | amiconn | Yes, because the H300 doesn't have a LED it could flash ;) |
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| 22:12:54 | petur | hmmm... the buildserver ate my commit |
| 22:13:01 | Cassandra | Gods - CVS, how I hate thee. Let me count the ways .. |
| 22:13:10 | preglow | hahaha |
| 22:13:19 | Cassandra | Nope, no time. Someone please help me create a new directory under the root. |
| 22:13:25 | petur | small Gods? |
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| 22:13:41 | * | petur thinks tortoise again |
| 22:13:52 | Cassandra | More momegs, really. |
| 22:13:52 | amiconn | petur: Ipod is less spectacular. Most of the time simply freezes (but also does the show all thing) |
| 22:13:59 | Cassandra | And Eris. It's bound to be her fault. |
| 22:14:32 | Cassandra | And even if it isn't, she'd be upset if she didn't get blamed. |
| 22:15:04 | * | bluebrother notices dumb got removed |
| 22:15:18 | Nico_P | what is dumb ? |
| 22:15:18 | * | tucoz wonders where linuxstbs commit did go |
| 22:15:27 | tucoz | a .mod .s3m etc library |
| 22:15:41 | bluebrother | tucoz, you're too fast for me ;-) |
| 22:15:41 | petur | ah.. there it is... seems to be busy evening for the server ;) |
| 22:16:01 | tucoz | bluebrother, did you want to do that? |
| 22:16:02 | PaulPosition | wtf? Really? I could listen to, like, demo-compo music from 15 years ago with that?? :o |
| 22:16:04 | Cassandra | What do you mena "no such file or directory, you pissant piece of software. |
| 22:16:20 | tucoz | PaulPosition, but dumb was not working |
| 22:16:28 | PaulPosition | Ah. lol, okay. |
| 22:16:31 | PaulPosition | :p |
| 22:16:35 | bluebrother | tucoz, no, I was referring to the answer |
| 22:16:35 | tucoz | PaulPosition, only the lib was committed. but no codec was written |
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| 22:16:49 | tucoz | aha |
| 22:17:04 | * | bluebrother is a bit tired. |
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| 22:17:40 | Cassandra | Why is it complaining that I can't add to CVSROOT/Emptydir? I don't want to do that. |
| 22:18:08 | petur | computers tend to do what you ask them, not what you want them to do :p |
| 22:19:23 | linuxstb | Cassandra: Are you trying to create a new top-level module in CVS? |
| 22:20:53 | godzirra | So whats the status on the gigabeat F series? |
| 22:21:09 | Cassandra | linuxstb, yes. |
| 22:21:12 | bluebrother | btw, what's the state of that mod codec in the tracker? Mod support would be great |
| 22:21:13 | markun | godzirra: we're close to having audio playback |
| 22:21:20 | Cassandra | Please, tell me how to make it happen. |
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| 22:21:25 | markun | godzirra: better come to #gigabeat for more info |
| 22:21:57 | tucoz | bluebrother, i have listened to mods on my h120. but that was before it was committed to cvs. |
| 22:22:08 | tucoz | i would assume that it works |
| 22:22:10 | Cassandra | Before I gnaw off my own (or worse) someone else's arm. |
| 22:22:24 | bluebrother | was committed? dumb? |
| 22:22:38 | tucoz | oh. maybe the mod patch was never commited |
| 22:22:44 | godzirra | markun: awesome. |
| 22:22:45 | tucoz | i thought it was |
| 22:22:48 | bluebrother | or do we have a mod codec in cvs? |
| 22:23:09 | bluebrother | I believe we don't, but I'm a bit out of sync currently |
| 22:23:19 | Genre9mp3 | isn't there a mod patch somewhere? |
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| 22:23:28 | bluebrother | yes, in the tracker |
| 22:23:33 | linuxstb | Cassandra: I normally create an empty directory somewhere on my hard disk, "cd" into it, then use the "cvs import newdir vendor version" command. Where newdir is the name of the directory that will be created in CVS, and I've never understood what vendor and version should be - I normally use something like "cvs import newdir dave start" |
| 22:23:34 | Cassandra | bluebrother: maybe you should check yourself into CVS. |
| 22:23:38 | tucoz | Genre9mp3, yes. But i thought that was committed. But I was probably wrong |
| 22:23:58 | Cassandra | linuxstb, I'll try that. ta. |
| 22:23:58 | bluebrother | hehe ... but I fear someone else is doing changes to me |
| 22:24:04 | Genre9mp3 | no.. only sid was commited a while ago |
| 22:24:21 | linuxstb | Cassandra: You then do a "cvs co" for your newly created directory, and then add files in there as normal. |
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| 22:24:24 | tucoz | right. i mixed those up. |
| 22:24:27 | Nico_P | tucoz: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5241 |
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| 22:25:10 | Genre9mp3 | this mod patch is not based on dumb btw |
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| 22:25:57 | tucoz | bbl |
| 22:26:14 | linuxstb | Cassandra: BTW, I'm working on a rewrite of ipodpatcher which should make its incorporation into your installer a breeze. The aim is that it will do what ipod_fw does as well, so a single command like "ipodpatcher 1 bootloader-nano.bin" will do the install... |
| 22:28:37 | Cassandra | linuxstb, cool. I've already designed how to fit it all into the installer in my head. |
| 22:29:20 | Cassandra | I was holding off on that anyway while waitng for the toolchain to settle down again. |
| 22:29:42 | Cassandra | Erm, the command claimed it worked. Don't know where it thinks it imported it to though. |
| 22:30:16 | Cassandra | Oh no, it's just a new module. Wonder why there were no logs. |
| 22:30:57 | linuxstb | Maybe the emails only fire on certain modules - Bagder will need to add rbutil. |
| 22:31:08 | linuxstb | But it's there: http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/rbutil/ |
| 22:32:17 | * | linuxstb spots CRLF line terminators..... |
| 22:33:17 | amiconn | linuxstb: Shouldn't it be possible to find ipods automatically instead of probing those numbers? |
| 22:33:46 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm sure it is, but I don't trust myself... |
| 22:34:01 | Cassandra | linuxstb: bugger. |
| 22:34:12 | linuxstb | But I agree that should definitely be added at some point. |
| 22:35:03 | amiconn | Only problem would be if more than one ipod is connected |
| 22:35:04 | Cassandra | I'll have to figure out a way of doing that for the installer anyway. |
| 22:35:53 | bluebrother | the ipl installer2 has some ipod autodetection |
| 22:36:15 | linuxstb | This page seems to be a good approach, but I don't think anything implements it yet: http://ipodlinux.org/Device_Information |
| 22:36:39 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I thought that was broken now that Apple have removed the SysInfo file from the ipod_control folder... |
| 22:37:12 | bluebrother | I had a short look into it, and from what I understood they parsed some information from the partition table |
| 22:37:49 | bluebrother | but as I don't have an ipod I couldn't test it |
| 22:38:11 | linuxstb | But that's for later, first priority is to get it working with manual detection. |
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| 22:38:52 | Cassandra | Step back a moment. How does a human work out which PhysicalDevice is the Ipod? |
| 22:38:54 | linuxstb | I also don't develop on windows, so my first job is porting ipodpatcher to Unix... |
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| 22:39:11 | Cassandra | It's the removeable storage with a small boot partition and a data partition. |
| 22:39:21 | Cassandra | We ought to be able to codify that somehow. |
| 22:39:47 | obo | USB product and vendor IDs may work... |
| 22:40:04 | obo | for make/model detection |
| 22:40:24 | Cassandra | obo: That might be as |
| 22:40:32 | Cassandra | sensible approach too, yes. |
| 22:40:37 | linuxstb | I just don't want to get it wrong and be responsible for trashing someone's hard drive... So I've just made it the user's final responsibility so far. |
| 22:41:00 | linuxstb | But there are already a lot of checks in ipodpatcher to make sure it's writing to an ipod. |
| 22:41:13 | linuxstb | (and the new version will have even more) |
| 22:41:37 | linuxstb | i.e. it will modify the firmware partition in-place, so if there isn't one there, it won't do anything. |
| 22:42:19 | * | linuxstb waves goodbye to dumb |
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| 22:43:49 | linuxstb | Is anyone else just receiving the dumb CVS emails, or is it just my email being slow? |
| 22:44:12 | Cassandra | I had them not too long ago. |
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| 22:45:11 | lowlight | tucoz: you forgot FILES too |
| 22:45:17 | tucoz | ooops |
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| 22:47:15 | tucoz | and thanks for telling me |
| 22:51:03 | petur | amiconn, Slasheri: dircache setting saving is still not ok (as Moos said). After scanning is done the first time, the subsequent shutdown doesn't spin up the disk and as such doesn't save the dircache size. |
| 22:52:31 | Cassandra | Unix line delimiter is lf, right? |
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| 22:53:42 | preglow | aye |
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| 22:55:10 | * | n1s wonders why rbutil files are versioned 1.1.1.1... |
| 22:58:29 | Cassandra | n1s - me too. Strange are the ways of CVS. Best not to ask. |
| 22:58:37 | n1s | indeed |
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| 23:03:57 | Cassandra | Arrr! Now why can't I delete a file? |
| 23:04:10 | Cassandra | "remove requires write access to the repository" |
| 23:04:34 | Cassandra | Erm, but I put the code in there in the first place. Doesn't that rather imply that I may have write access? |
| 23:05:52 | n1s | "Strange are the ways of CVS" :-P |
| 23:07:23 | * | petur gives format_display() in gwps-common.c a puzzled look |
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| 23:25:29 | Cassandra | It's going to be one of those nights, isn't it? |
| 23:26:23 | petur | better quit early then |
| 23:27:11 | Esoterik | Hey all , was just wondering if anyone could help for a sec? :P |
| 23:28:38 | Esoterik | Im trying to get my ipod 5.5 setup with a rockbox build but so far in trying to find the number assigned to my ipod i have no luck... can anyone tell me what im doing wrong if i give a run through of what ive done or havnt done so far? |
| 23:28:38 | petur | why not just ask the question |
| 23:29:22 | petur | better find an ipod expert in here :) |
| 23:29:27 | Esoterik | ive got all files in the need location , i see my ipod in my computer , but i ran ipodpatcher 0-26 and nothing |
| 23:29:33 | Esoterik | >< |
| 23:29:42 | Bagder | Esoterik: 80GB? |
| 23:29:46 | Esoterik | 30gb |
| 23:30:05 | Bagder | then I figure it should work... but I'm not the ipod expert either |
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| 23:30:32 | bluebrother | iirc 5.5G 30GB still needs a patched ipodpatcher |
| 23:30:47 | bluebrother | but no ipod experience here. |
| 23:31:39 | Esoterik | Ahh.. so thats what i forgot / missed... im gunna find one and give it another go :P |
| 23:33:35 | Cassandra | Well, I've got WinCVS talking to the repository, and everything in in the manner it's supposed to be in. I think that counts as a win. |
| 23:33:43 | Cassandra | I should probably stop there. |
| 23:34:02 | Cassandra | Oh, bagder, can you add the rbutil module to the notification system please? |
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| 23:34:28 | tucoz | is that module possible to check out now? |
| 23:34:39 | petur | WinCvs? better than tortoise cvs? |
| 23:35:00 | Cassandra | petur: No idea. I don't normally use CVS under windows. |
| 23:35:06 | Cassandra | It's kind of ... monolithic. |
| 23:35:23 | Cassandra | And seems to gratuitously use services. |
| 23:35:38 | Cassandra | Also not user friendly. But this *is* CVS we're talking about. |
| 23:35:50 | petur | tortoise cvs intergates nicely into the explorer |
| 23:36:05 | Cassandra | That sounds better then. |
| 23:36:19 | petur | http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ |
| 23:36:46 | tucoz | i found out that it was in fact easy to "delete" a directory tree with cvs. Just cvs remove -f <dir>/* ; cvs commit |
| 23:37:20 | tucoz | But i found that out after i had done the recursion manually :/ |
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| 23:38:19 | petur | and if we _ever_ switch, there's http://sourceforge.net/projects/tortoisesvn :D |
| 23:38:27 | scorche | hehe |
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| 23:38:56 | Everybody|away | bye |
| 23:38:57 | Cassandra | petur: Right after someone implements track seeking, I expect. |
| 23:39:15 | tucoz | audible track seeking? |
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| 23:40:05 | tucoz | as far as i know, track seeking is implemented already |
| 23:40:15 | * | petur sends himself to bed |
| 23:40:15 | tucoz | at least for the codecs i use |
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| 23:41:22 | bluebrother | I had a look in wincvs quite some while ago ... and went straight to tortoisecvs. Still cervisia isn't as good :( |
| 23:41:32 | linuxstb | Esoterik: Which version of ipodpatcher are you using, and which version of Windows? |
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| 23:42:39 | Esoterik | Linuxstb: i got it to work :D... i had the wrond HDD not to mention the wrong patcher... but all is well so far thanks |
| 23:43:09 | linuxstb | Did you use ipodpatcher v0.4? |
| 23:43:11 | bluebrother | hmm, I should also get some sleep |
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| 23:43:47 | Esoterik | umm i got it from Psiuyo's build or link i should say , im not sure what the build is... |
| 23:44:17 | linuxstb | So that's the unofficial version... The latest official version should have worked as well. |
| 23:45:19 | Esoterik | oh well thats good to know... it was probably just the fact i had the wrong root folder to begin with but i changed both at the same time |
| 23:48:53 | Cassandra | tucoz: with audio, I meant. |
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