| 00:00:06 | * | [IDC]Dragon just made his 1st commit since a year or so |
| 00:00:20 | Lars_G | :D |
| 00:01:10 | [IDC]Dragon | would it be selfish to mention that my lastname lacks a letter, in the cvs table "who" column? |
| 00:01:26 | muesli__ | Preparation for disks >137 GB not bad :D |
| 00:01:30 | Bagder | hehe, me fix |
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| 00:01:57 | * | [IDC]Dragon gets a 160 GB tomorrow or so |
| 00:02:27 | muesli__ | i guess theres no 160gb for 1.8" so far |
| 00:02:39 | Bagder | [IDC]Dragon: 'n' added, will appear later on |
| 00:02:45 | [IDC]Dragon | safe guess |
| 00:02:59 | [IDC]Dragon | Bagder, thanks |
| 00:03:04 | Lars_G | I hope to make a contribution (very small) soon |
| 00:03:06 | Bagder | toshiba announced their 100GB 1.8" the other day |
| 00:03:20 | muesli__ | toshia... |
| 00:03:21 | muesli__ | b |
| 00:03:28 | [IDC]Dragon | lets make a raid from those |
| 00:03:30 | Bagder | it'll take ages before any mortal can get one |
| 00:03:42 | muesli__ | exactly... |
| 00:03:49 | Lars_G | I'm still waiting for 100Gb flash DAPs |
| 00:03:55 | Lars_G | I don't do HDD daps |
| 00:04:00 | muesli__ | the released the 40gb 1.8 single platter last november |
| 00:04:06 | [IDC]Dragon | usually apple is quick in following the HD manufacturers |
| 00:04:11 | muesli__ | NOW u can purchase them |
| 00:04:45 | muesli__ | Lars_G keep on dreamin and wake up 2008 ;) |
| 00:06:05 | scorche | [IDC]Dragon: ah...nice...looks like i get to do some testing...let me know how it does with your 160 if i dont test first |
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| 00:08:14 | PaulPosition | Okay, I have to leave for the evening.. |
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| 00:09:49 | PaulPosition | If anyone wants to (Linuxstb, badger, n1s, anyone really) you could have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/H10InstallationBeta which is a somewhat more up-to-date version of the install guide in the H10 manual.. I haven't finished with it (voice and such aren't copied over yet) and presentation sucks, but links and all should work and point to the right files. |
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| 00:10:11 | habana | Bagder: just after update of the cvs and prepairing a bootloader, had this error "find: apps: No such file or directory" |
| 00:10:12 | PaulPosition | Any feedback more than welcome.. And feel free to edit as you wish. |
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| 00:10:38 | scorche | well, it is a wiki ;) |
| 00:10:53 | PaulPosition | scorche - Is it? :p |
| 00:10:56 | habana | oups, bootloader doesnt need apps, of course |
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| 00:11:08 | [IDC]Dragon | scorche, do you have a big disk? |
| 00:11:13 | scorche | i do |
| 00:11:21 | scorche | as i believe i have told you before |
| 00:11:33 | [IDC]Dragon | oops, you did? |
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| 00:11:41 | scorche | no worries |
| 00:12:01 | * | [IDC]Dragon is bad about remembering people |
| 00:12:08 | Bagder | PaulPosition: quite possibly that guide could be used for Sansa installs too as they are very similar... |
| 00:12:13 | [IDC]Dragon | especially without faces |
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| 00:12:24 | scorche | that would just scare you off though |
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| 00:12:50 | joeee | anyone around to help me :( |
| 00:12:52 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, let's proceed with IRC then |
| 00:13:00 | PaulPosition | Badger - Maybe, with a few name changes here and there.. Anyway, I got to leave so I'll look at it again later. |
| 00:13:17 | PaulPosition | Good evening, morning, afternoon, whatever ... 'gents and ladies. |
| 00:13:20 | [IDC]Dragon | scorche, make a 2nd primary partition in the upper space |
| 00:13:23 | Bagder | PaulPosition: yeah, we'll see, I just wanted to mention it so that you might keep it in mind |
| 00:13:32 | joeee | hello? |
| 00:13:44 | Bagder | joeee: so ask away |
| 00:13:44 | [IDC]Dragon | you'd need to take the disk our, of course |
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| 00:13:50 | TheCollector | joeee: just ask your question |
| 00:13:55 | joeee | ah ok |
| 00:13:56 | scorche | i would? |
| 00:14:06 | scorche | ah...silly me |
| 00:14:18 | [IDC]Dragon | copy you favourite 23 GB to it, on a PC |
| 00:14:26 | [IDC]Dragon | your |
| 00:14:27 | joeee | iriver h10, I have installed rokbox already but when i boot the player up it just seems to stop at the loading screen |
| 00:15:02 | [IDC]Dragon | 'cause you can't change it over USB again |
| 00:15:26 | [IDC]Dragon | build Rockbox with HAVE_BIGLBA and HAVE_MULTIVOLUME |
| 00:15:44 | scorche | [IDC]Dragon: i will have to test later, as i need to find my 2.5 adapter, but carry on with the instructions |
| 00:15:45 | Bagder | joeee: you probably need to make sure you update both your bootloader and rockbox |
| 00:15:52 | scorche | in fact, it might be worth making a wiki page about it |
| 00:15:55 | Bagder | joeee: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/H10InstallationBeta |
| 00:16:01 | [IDC]Dragon | and voila, you can see and play from the 2nd partition |
| 00:16:08 | [IDC]Dragon | (that's it) |
| 00:16:19 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll do a wiki page later |
| 00:16:57 | scorche | does it appear transparent on the device? |
| 00:17:19 | [IDC]Dragon | transparent? |
| 00:17:58 | scorche | no noticible separation between the 2 partitions? |
| 00:18:04 | [IDC]Dragon | the 2nd partition looks like a directory, currently named <HD1> |
| 00:18:10 | scorche | ah...alright |
| 00:18:14 | Doomed | ah sweet dual boot on H10 :D |
| 00:19:16 | Doomed | btw what is rollo? |
| 00:19:20 | joeee | I use this CVS build yeah? |
| 00:19:48 | Doomed | joeee you have to update your bootloader |
| 00:20:09 | joeee | in system yes? |
| 00:20:24 | Doomed | yep |
| 00:20:59 | [IDC]Dragon | scorche, it is necessary that the 2nd partition is a primary one, too |
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| 00:21:17 | [IDC]Dragon | not an extended one, Rockbox doesn't handle that |
| 00:21:28 | joeee | so |
| 00:21:29 | joeee | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h10/rockbox_interface/images/h10-front.png |
| 00:21:35 | joeee | im seeing that screen atm |
| 00:22:15 | Doomed | do you have 20 gb? |
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| 00:22:20 | joeee | yes |
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| 00:23:36 | PaulPosition | Badger - D'you not think it might be worth it to put a small note in the 'News' directing H10 crowd to the new BL..? I don't know if it ever happened in the project's life as I haven't been around for long. :) |
| 00:24:21 | joeee | any ideas :) |
| 00:25:43 | PaulPosition | Joeee - In the link badger provided there a links to the bootloaders. It says you shouldn't have to change them, at least not often unless there's some BIG change. Well today there were BIG changes. :) |
| 00:26:07 | Doomed | yep |
| 00:27:10 | PaulPosition | joeee - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/MainH10InstallationBeta , look under Installing the Bootloader .. |
| 00:27:36 | PaulPosition | these are links to the newer ones which WILL work together with that latest build you downloaded. |
| 00:27:37 | * | [IDC]Dragon waves goodnight |
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| 00:29:26 | joeee | there is only one link yeah for 20gig |
| 00:31:04 | PaulPosition | Sorry, gave you a wrong link, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=H10InstallationBeta is the right one.. But anyway, there are links to both UMS and MTP for 5/6gb in there. |
| 00:31:23 | scorche | PaulPosition: not really...there wasnt a notice for the new apple BL either...anyone who cares that much will be watching the commit activity, and all others can wait till we "phase it in" with proper instructions in the manual and all |
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| 00:32:08 | Llorean | scorche: Though in the case of the H10, it finally received the last batch of core functionality that it should have (dual boot) while the iPod dual booted from before it played music. |
| 00:32:12 | joeee | so do i need to download both the ums and mtp loaders ? |
| 00:32:19 | PaulPosition | scorche - No problem.. Been reworking that manual entry into a wikipage (above) and when it's done I'll see if I can TeX-it and commit.. :) |
| 00:32:29 | Doomed | does the H10 use both cores? |
| 00:32:33 | Llorean | joeee: You only download the one for the device you have. |
| 00:32:45 | joeee | yeah i think i did :> |
| 00:32:59 | linuxstb_ | So it seems from that forum post that the Nano _can_ record, and even via the headphone jack? |
| 00:33:25 | scorche | linuxstb_: yeah...i considered notifying you, but i figured you would see it |
| 00:33:40 | linuxstb_ | I read petur's question about gain... |
| 00:33:41 | Llorean | linuxstb_: That's what that forum post implies to me. |
| 00:33:56 | PaulPosition | joeee- Interesting that you ask, I just noticed there really isn't steps to differentiate between MTP and UMS.. I'll add some when I get back later. :) |
| 00:34:05 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I'm about to see if I can find a mic and give it a yell. |
| 00:34:58 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: You could just try the white headphones that came with your ipod - that's how I tested the headphone jack input on my Photo. |
| 00:35:01 | PaulPosition | Joeee - If your device came with Windows Media Player on a disc, it is MTP. If it came with iRiver's own software, it is UMS. |
| 00:35:16 | joeee | alright |
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| 00:37:02 | PaulPosition | Okay, bye for real now... |
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| 00:37:25 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Whichever one I stumble across first then |
| 00:37:49 | linuxstb_ | Mine were easy to find - still in the plastic in the box... |
| 00:39:27 | Llorean | I didn't keep my box, but I kept mine for dire emergencies |
| 00:39:35 | joeee | still not working gah :p |
| 00:39:52 | joeee | so in my system i should have, h10_20GC and h10 |
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| 00:43:57 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Not a sign of response. Tried both "Line in" and "Internal Mic" since I really wasn't sure which source should be used. |
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| 00:46:02 | SUSaiyan | wait, what? you can record by putting a mic in the headphone jack on your nano? |
| 00:46:29 | linuxstb_ | SUSaiyan: So someone has claimed in the forums. It works on earlier ipods. |
| 00:46:54 | SUSaiyan | okay that im gunna try |
| 00:46:56 | linuxstb_ | But that's because the "italk" type accessories plug into the headphone jack (and the remote connector next to it). |
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| 00:47:12 | linuxstb_ | AFAIK, there is no italk for the Nano. |
| 00:47:40 | SUSaiyan | wheres the record button anyway? ^^ |
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| 00:48:18 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: I'm not sure why the text says "internal mic" - it just said "mic" last time I tested the patch... But that should be the option. |
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| 00:49:33 | * | linuxstb_ slaps peter for saying "To reduce confusion, renamed 'Mic' to 'Internal Mic'. Maybe Line In should also be renamed to Line In / External Mic" :) |
| 00:49:44 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Well the string used to say "Mic" for the H120 as well, which led to confusion as to whether it was like the "Mic" option in the iRiver firmware (just a different gain setting for the line in) or for the actual Mic. |
| 00:50:33 | yossa | so for sansa dual boot, I put the PP5022.mi4, OF.bin and rockbox.e200 into the main dir and it should work, yes? I'm a little confused by the "system" folder in the mysticriver guide |
| 00:50:50 | linuxstb_ | The headphone jack is an external mic input, so we need to make use of the lovely langv2 capabilities... |
| 00:50:57 | Llorean | linuxstb_: The .wav files created don't seem to play in Rockbox. |
| 00:51:24 | SUSaiyan | where exactly do i find the record button guys? <_< |
| 00:51:34 | Llorean | SUSaiyan: What "record button?" |
| 00:51:35 | linuxstb_ | Try the main menu. |
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| 00:53:01 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Anyway, using the mic setting, the peakmeter wobbles at a very low level, isn't empty, and as far as I can tell I can't affect it. |
| 00:53:09 | SUSaiyan | i dont see it? :/ |
| 00:53:26 | Llorean | SUSaiyan: Are you running a new enough build to have the option? |
| 00:53:31 | habana | would someone know what "rockbox error -6" means when trying to boot on my original firmware ? |
| 00:53:41 | SUSaiyan | how new does it need to be? |
| 00:53:55 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: Yes, that's what I experienced when recording wasn't working. So I don't think it's a case of being at a low level, I just don't think it's working. |
| 00:54:45 | linuxstb_ | It was only enabled for the Nano accidentally, and we decided to leave it there so someone could confirm the line-in didn't work. |
| 00:55:57 | Llorean | Well, no headphone jack recording at least (as far as I can tell). |
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| 00:58:31 | Drkepilogue | hey, i have a problem with the new bootloader for the ipod |
| 00:58:54 | linuxstb_ | habana: It means your firmware file is larger than the load buffer, which is currently set to be 10MB. Is that the case? |
| 00:59:02 | linuxstb_ | Drkepilogue: What's the problem? |
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| 00:59:28 | Drkepilogue | it can boot to the rockbox FW with no problem but when i try and boot the orginal frimware it reset and show folder with exclamation mark error |
| 00:59:50 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: Did you post on the forum, or was that someone else with the same issue/ |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:01 | Drkepilogue | i didnt post on forum |
| 01:00:07 | Drkepilogue | i just installed the new bootloader |
| 01:00:11 | linuxstb | OK. Which ipod do you have? |
| 01:00:22 | Drkepilogue | 4g photo |
| 01:00:30 | habana | linuxstb_: my OF.bin is 5.3 mo |
| 01:01:23 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: That's odd, I've been testing it on my Photo (well, a Color, but they're the same). |
| 01:01:35 | Drkepilogue | O_o |
| 01:01:44 | Drkepilogue | i think i should try a reinstallation.. |
| 01:01:54 | linuxstb | What was on your ipod before you did the install? |
| 01:02:05 | linuxstb | (i.e. was it clean, or did it have an old Rockbox install)? |
| 01:02:12 | Drkepilogue | uh |
| 01:02:25 | Drkepilogue | i had yesterday CVS build and the old bootloader |
| 01:02:40 | Drkepilogue | and w/e crap itune put in there |
| 01:03:36 | Llorean | Do the instructions say it should be installed on a clean iPod bootpartition, or was that not supposed to matter any more? |
| 01:03:48 | linuxstb | It _shouldn't_ matter. |
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| 01:05:53 | linuxstb | habana: If your /System/OF.bin file is only 5.3MB, then something odd is going on... |
| 01:05:57 | Drkepilogue | i reinstalled and it still cant load orginal FW |
| 01:06:29 | linuxstb | Are you able to restore your original boot partition contents? (if you kept the bootpartition.bin backup from the first time you installed Rockbox). |
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| 01:06:45 | Drkepilogue | yes |
| 01:06:56 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 01:06:56 | Drkepilogue | wait... |
| 01:06:56 | Drkepilogue | well |
| 01:07:00 | Drkepilogue | in da instruction |
| 01:07:04 | Drkepilogue | it ask me to make a backup thingy |
| 01:07:06 | Drkepilogue | i did that |
| 01:07:21 | Drkepilogue | and i can "uninstall the bootloader" |
| 01:07:28 | Drkepilogue | so go back to apple FW |
| 01:07:43 | linuxstb | How do you uninstall the bootloader? |
| 01:07:55 | habana | linuxstb: you mean .rockbox/OF.bin ? |
| 01:08:07 | Drkepilogue | the wiki page |
| 01:08:08 | Drkepilogue | e) Create a backup of your ipod's firmware partition |
| 01:08:08 | linuxstb | habana: No. |
| 01:08:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 01:08:16 | Drkepilogue | followed that step |
| 01:08:18 | habana | so i made a mistake |
| 01:09:09 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: OK. So when you restore that, do you get the Apple firmware by itself, or the old Rockbox bootloader? |
| 01:09:41 | Drkepilogue | only apple frimware |
| 01:10:44 | habana | linuxstb:cant find System. where do i placeit on my player dir ? |
| 01:11:17 | habana | let it, ill see tomorrow, too tired tonight |
| 01:11:24 | linuxstb | habana: I'm not sure. I'm just reading the source code to the bootloader, I don't own a H10. |
| 01:11:33 | Doomed | habana |
| 01:11:46 | habana | thanks. im on a sansa |
| 01:11:47 | Doomed | what are you tring to do? |
| 01:11:50 | Doomed | oh nvm |
| 01:12:17 | habana | rrrr, zzzz toooo mucchhh ttiiiireeed |
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| 01:15:58 | Drkepilogue | k, i reinstall this like 3 times now, still not working,, hmm |
| 01:16:34 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: I'm not sure what to suggest... Do you know which version of the Apple firmware you're running? |
| 01:17:28 | Drkepilogue | very very old |
| 01:17:31 | Drkepilogue | lol |
| 01:17:40 | Drkepilogue | bought it around jun 2005 |
| 01:17:47 | Drkepilogue | or something... |
| 01:17:51 | Drkepilogue | and havent upgrade.. |
| 01:17:55 | Drkepilogue | eh... owells... |
| 01:18:03 | Drkepilogue | ima see if i can install the old bootloader |
| 01:18:47 | linuxstb | A couple of other people have reported similar problems this evening. One of them running v1.1 of the Apple firmware on a 4g (greyscale) |
| 01:19:14 | Drkepilogue | yup |
| 01:19:16 | Drkepilogue | i think so |
| 01:19:23 | Drkepilogue | how cna u check |
| 01:19:26 | Drkepilogue | what version im running? |
| 01:19:36 | linuxstb | Go into the Settings -> About screen. |
| 01:19:39 | Doomed | itunes has info i think |
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| 01:19:56 | linuxstb | The ipod itself tells you as well. |
| 01:20:16 | linuxstb | I have v1.2 on mine. |
| 01:20:35 | Llorean | linuxstb: Does the bootloader just check for the present of apple_os.ipod? It just booted from it despinte the Apple_OS being in the FW partition. |
| 01:20:54 | linuxstb | Llorean: Yes, it defaults to loading the apple_os.ipod if it exists... |
| 01:20:58 | Llorean | Gotcha |
| 01:21:07 | linuxstb | Maybe that needs some thought. |
| 01:21:20 | Llorean | I was just running a test to see if I -wf bootloader.ipod, -wf apple_os.ipod and the -a bootloader.ipod everything still worked fine. |
| 01:21:43 | Llorean | Well, someone really shouldn't have apple_os.ipod unless they want to be loading from it anyway. |
| 01:21:52 | linuxstb | Drkepilogue: Can you try this bootloader? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-ipodcolor.ipod This includes some improvements committed to CVS today. |
| 01:22:13 | linuxstb | Llorean: I'm thinking you may want it there for Rolo'ing purposes in the future. |
| 01:22:57 | Drkepilogue | ill try |
| 01:22:58 | Llorean | linuxstb: True, but once that works, is there any reason to keep it in the fw partition? |
| 01:23:13 | Llorean | Other than "harder to accidentally delete" I suppose |
| 01:23:35 | linuxstb | The same reason you put rockbox.ipod in the firmware partition I guess - faster booting. |
| 01:23:59 | Lars_G | Btw this might sound stupid but how can I make rockbox load a config file by default on start? |
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| 01:24:30 | linuxstb | Lars_G: If you load a config, then they become the default settings stored in the config sector. That config sector is loaded on start. |
| 01:24:42 | Lars_G | thanks linuxstb |
| 01:24:51 | SUSaiyan | heh, funny, the new cvs build i downloaded wont boot :/ |
| 01:24:58 | Lars_G | oh |
| 01:25:03 | Lars_G | SUSaiyan: thanks for the warning |
| 01:25:16 | SUSaiyan | well, it wont boot for me anyway |
| 01:25:36 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Oops... Maybe everyone needs to upgrade their bootloaders then. |
| 01:25:52 | SUSaiyan | possibly, rolo worked though |
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| 01:27:03 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Which ipod do you have? |
| 01:27:25 | SUSaiyan | nano, 4GB |
| 01:27:50 | linuxstb | Can you try installing this bootloader? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/bootloader-ipodnano.ipod |
| 01:28:01 | SUSaiyan | another update? |
| 01:28:05 | linuxstb | Yep... |
| 01:28:42 | Llorean | linuxstb: Is that just the one I'd be running? |
| 01:28:44 | Lars_G | linuxstb: When did that one come out? it's the one announced on the list about a week ago? |
| 01:29:07 | linuxstb | Llorean: Yes, it's the current CVS. |
| 01:29:09 | SUSaiyan | what changed this time? ;) |
| 01:29:10 | Llorean | Okay |
| 01:29:33 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: The startup code, especially how Rockbox initialises the COP has changed. |
| 01:29:40 | SUSaiyan | ah |
| 01:29:57 | Drkepilogue | hmm |
| 01:30:01 | Drkepilogue | same result.. |
| 01:30:03 | SUSaiyan | darnit firefox, work with me here |
| 01:30:18 | Lars_G | good warning I was just about to compile lattest cvs. |
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| 01:31:11 | Lars_G | JdGordon: Hi, I just wanted to talk with you :) |
| 01:31:12 | * | Lars_G bows |
| 01:31:18 | JdGordon | hey |
| 01:32:13 | Lars_G | JdGordon: I want to patch metronome.c and I wonder if you used any program/script to create the sound arrays from the files, and what exact codect and file format each array is on |
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| 01:32:41 | JdGordon | i have no idea about any code in that plugin |
| 01:32:45 | Lars_G | I basically need to add an extra sound array for my patch in both formats. and I'd also like to reverse your arrays into original files to make the new file based on them |
| 01:32:45 | JdGordon | except he buttton code |
| 01:32:52 | Lars_G | ah lol. |
| 01:33:02 | Lars_G | So your name is there only for the last patch, ah ok, sorry |
| 01:33:13 | JdGordon | ye |
| 01:33:18 | Lars_G | I'll try to figure it out myself then. thanks |
| 01:36:12 | SUSaiyan | hmm, what version should the bootloader display? |
| 01:38:47 | SUSaiyan | linuxstb: ^ |
| 01:39:12 | linuxstb | It should display the date/time from about an hour ago (GMT) |
| 01:39:17 | Lars_G | lol |
| 01:39:21 | SUSaiyan | hmm, okay |
| 01:39:22 | Lars_G | so it is RECENT |
| 01:39:24 | SUSaiyan | that it didnt |
| 01:39:40 | linuxstb | So 061219-2344 I think |
| 01:39:40 | SUSaiyan | so i must have made a mistake somewhere >.> |
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| 01:39:48 | SUSaiyan | oh crap |
| 01:39:48 | Digamma | Can rockbox play OGG files/ |
| 01:39:53 | TheCollector | yes |
| 01:39:54 | SUSaiyan | i just realized something bad |
| 01:40:17 | Digamma | Once sound is working could an OGG be played on a Sansa e200 |
| 01:40:39 | Llorean | Yes. |
| 01:40:50 | SUSaiyan | ... so does anyone know how to restore a fat32 file table...? |
| 01:40:53 | linuxstb | Yes. See the SoundCodecs wiki page for details of all the audio codecs Rockbox supports. The Sansa will be the same as all the other modern (iriver/iaudio/ipod) ports. |
| 01:41:04 | Llorean | Digamma: All Rockbox supported codes should be able to be played on the e200 |
| 01:41:21 | * | SUSaiyan completely forgot he had another external hdd connected |
| 01:41:25 | Digamma | Can somone point me to a list of codecs for rockbox? |
| 01:41:43 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Huh? Did ipodpatcher write to the wrong disk? |
| 01:41:53 | SUSaiyan | no, i used dd >.> |
| 01:42:02 | SUSaiyan | you know, with scrable and stuff |
| 01:42:05 | Llorean | Digamma: You were pointed to the SoundCodecs wiki page. |
| 01:42:05 | linuxstb | That's why you should use ipodpatcher.... |
| 01:42:19 | SUSaiyan | would it like my 8mb sda1? |
| 01:42:28 | Llorean | SUSaiyan: Not to mention the new install process and new bootloader files are specifically for use with the new iPodPatcher... |
| 01:42:36 | Digamma | thanks |
| 01:43:15 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Ah, I forgot you did that. scramble creates firmware partitions incompatible with ipodpatcher... |
| 01:43:25 | * | linuxstb should fix that sometime |
| 01:44:42 | SUSaiyan | hehe |
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| 01:44:57 | SUSaiyan | so now i overwrote the first 100kb of my external hdd ^^ |
| 01:45:13 | SUSaiyan | well its first partition anyway |
| 01:45:17 | Lars_G | where's ipodpatcher? |
| 01:45:36 | Lars_G | And what's the advantage to dd? |
| 01:45:50 | Soap | 1-wiki |
| 01:45:52 | Soap | 2-SUSaiyan> so now i overwrote the first 100kb of my external hdd ^^ |
| 01:45:54 | SUSaiyan | none if you are half asleep |
| 01:46:33 | Llorean | Lars_G: The only real advantage of dd, is if you really don't want to use the Apple_OS ever, and want to trim the firmware partition to a bare minimum size. |
| 01:46:39 | Digamma | Is there anything that remotely resembles sound on the Sansa e200 |
| 01:46:53 | Lars_G | Llorean: Nah I use both rockbox and the OF |
| 01:47:03 | * | linuxstb tries to think of something that resembles sound, but isn't sound... |
| 01:47:15 | Llorean | Digamma: No, which is why it's not listed in the "Runs on" list on the front page. |
| 01:47:20 | Soap | a tree falling in the woods w/nobody around? |
| 01:47:36 | Lars_G | Llorean: Sorry to be repetitive, would you point me to the url of ipodpatcher's wiki and lattest version? |
| 01:47:38 | Digamma | I am just asking; maybe there could have been a small breakthrough with the CVS builds |
| 01:47:39 | linuxstb | Soap: That's it. Sansas have sound but only if you're not listening... |
| 01:47:54 | SUSaiyan | linuxstb: the first 100kb is just the filetable, right? >.> |
| 01:47:56 | Lars_G | nevermind I'll search the wiki |
| 01:47:59 | linuxstb | Lars_G: The IpodInstallationBeta wiki page. |
| 01:48:11 | Llorean | Digamma: You're as capable of reading the CVS log on the front page as anyone else here. Do any of those say anything about sound on an e200? |
| 01:48:14 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Thank you very much |
| 01:48:49 | linuxstb | Digamma: A breakthrough like that will be well-publicised. I don't think you'll miss it. |
| 01:48:57 | Digamma | ok |
| 01:49:30 | * | Lars_G prays ccache works |
| 01:49:55 | JdGordon | how dangerous is plugging fans into the psu with the power on? |
| 01:50:06 | Lars_G | Good question |
| 01:50:18 | Lars_G | I do not dare respond in case something happens and you blame me. |
| 01:50:24 | JdGordon | shohuold be fine right? |
| 01:50:34 | Lars_G | but I'd personally do it if I am completely sure the fan is ok and not shorted |
| 01:51:01 | Lars_G | just in case, is this a mobo fan or a molex fan |
| 01:51:24 | Lars_G | I can't guarantee your bios won't go insane if you hook a mobo fan with the machine on |
| 01:52:01 | JdGordon | molex fan, i woulndt even consider it if it was a mobo one |
| 01:52:21 | Lars_G | ok |
| 01:52:25 | Lars_G | personally, I'd do it |
| 01:52:36 | JdGordon | well me and the comp are still alive so alls good |
| 01:53:07 | Lars_G | JdGordon: Do you know who is the original author of metronome.c ? |
| 01:53:24 | JdGordon | who does the (c) message say? |
| 01:53:26 | JdGordon | probably |
| 01:53:27 | JdGordon | them |
| 01:53:59 | Lars_G | hmmm |
| 01:54:16 | JdGordon | Matthias Wientapper |
| 01:54:20 | JdGordon | whoever that is... |
| 01:54:24 | Lars_G | Matthias Wientapper |
| 01:54:30 | JdGordon | its 2yrs, 9 months old |
| 01:54:30 | Lars_G | Ah forget it I'll decypher the code myself |
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| 01:55:49 | habana-with-coff | dan_a: i reported on the forum a potential bug on sansa builds with dual boot |
| 01:55:52 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Any luck? Or are you still trying to fix your trashed hdd? |
| 01:56:17 | SUSaiyan | im trying to fix it, heh |
| 01:56:46 | JdGordon | http://www.rockbox.org/viewcvs.cgi/apps/plugins/metronome.c revision 1.18 could lead you to some helpers |
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| 01:57:14 | JdGordon | Lars_G: ^ |
| 01:57:16 | SUSaiyan | im actually amazed that this random restore app is not a virus or spyware, well as far as i can tell |
| 01:57:55 | Lars_G | JdGordon: hmm? I'll look |
| 01:58:20 | Lars_G | JdGordon: It's small but I hope this is the first patch I can contrib to rockbox |
| 01:58:44 | linuxstb | habana-with-coff: Do you have an OF.bin file in the /System folder? I can't see from the source code how it can load /.rockbox/OF.bin |
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| 01:58:50 | SUSaiyan | while its scanning i mightaswell put the bootloader on the right device |
| 01:58:51 | linuxstb | Oh well... |
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| 01:59:37 | Lars_G | what the |
| 01:59:42 | Lars_G | JdGordon: THE linus? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:06 | JdGordon | _our_ linus :D |
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| 02:00:20 | Lars_G | Ah ok :D |
| 02:00:34 | Lars_G | linuxstb: ... ipodpatche is windows based? or ANSI |
| 02:00:44 | SUSaiyan | linuxstb: okay the new bootloader works |
| 02:00:49 | SUSaiyan | also, nice colors :) |
| 02:01:04 | * | JdGordon bbs |
| 02:01:07 | linuxstb | Lars_G: It's ANSI with both posix and win32 implementations of the low-level disk I/O. |
| 02:01:10 | Lars_G | No it's universal. |
| 02:01:14 | Lars_G | good |
| 02:01:26 | Lars_G | if ipodpatcher is on the main cvs I must have it already, let me check |
| 02:01:34 | linuxstb | It's been tested on Linux, BSD, Mac OS X and Windows. |
| 02:01:51 | linuxstb | Yes, it's in tools/ipodpatcher/ |
| 02:01:52 | SUSaiyan | okay so it works now |
| 02:02:00 | Soap | quick question on the recording screen |
| 02:02:04 | Soap | top bar is left? |
| 02:02:05 | SUSaiyan | now to get my hdd back in working order :/ |
| 02:02:23 | Lars_G | linuxstb: My cvs must be wrong, I have fwpatcher but not ipodpatcher, duh |
| 02:02:24 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: OK, thanks. But that's worrying - it means every ipod user will need to update their bootloader. Maybe that should be mentioned somewhere... |
| 02:02:43 | SUSaiyan | indeed |
| 02:02:43 | linuxstb | Lars_G: "cvs update -dP" |
| 02:02:55 | linuxstb | (the -d downloads new files) |
| 02:03:12 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Man, thanks for whistanding me. |
| 02:03:31 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Normally I DO tend to try and find out stuff for myself but I'm tired and it's late. thanks for the help. |
| 02:04:10 | Lars_G | Meh i think I'll edit my makefile. I'm not using doom and I don't want to spend cpu cycles compiling it |
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| 02:05:24 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Will ipodpatcher work on an ipod already using rockbox? |
| 02:09:13 | Llorean | Lars_G: It *should* |
| 02:09:36 | Lars_G | Llorean: I'm not sure, it's not recognizing the poor ipod |
| 02:09:43 | preglow | worked on mine |
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| 02:10:26 | Lars_G | Oh, sigh I pray Me doesn't has to reflash the ipod |
| 02:10:36 | Lars_G | I mean on a non-linux machine |
| 02:10:53 | Llorean | I guarantee you don't need to re-flash it. |
| 02:10:55 | linuxstb | You can make a backup of the current state with the "-r" option. |
| 02:11:13 | Lars_G | linuxboy: Neine |
| 02:11:40 | Lars_G | sudo ipodpatcher /dev/sda -r saved.bin |
| 02:11:48 | linuxstb | Do you need sudo? |
| 02:11:50 | Lars_G | [ERR] Drive is not an iPod, aborting |
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| 02:11:59 | Lars_G | With or without sudo, the outcome is the same |
| 02:12:13 | linuxstb | Try ipodpatcher −−scan |
| 02:12:25 | linuxstb | So is /dev/sda your ipod? |
| 02:12:29 | Lars_G | yes it is |
| 02:12:36 | SUSaiyan | it better be |
| 02:12:42 | SUSaiyan | it wasnt in my case >.> |
| 02:12:43 | Lars_G | [INFO] Scanning disk devices... |
| 02:12:43 | Lars_G | [ERR] No ipods found. |
| 02:12:45 | linuxstb | Then you've probably modified it. Did you repartition? |
| 02:12:47 | Lars_G | SUSaiyan: in mine it is |
| 02:13:02 | Lars_G | linuxstb: I think I have repartitioned it during the first install, yes... |
| 02:13:05 | SUSaiyan | of course ipodpatcher wouldnt do anything to it if its not an ipod |
| 02:13:12 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Which means I need to go back to factory, doesn't it? |
| 02:13:16 | Lars_G | sigh |
| 02:13:20 | * | Lars_G sighs |
| 02:13:24 | linuxstb | Or comment out some checks in ipodpatcher... |
| 02:13:48 | Lars_G | linuxstb: That I could but since it's repartitioned will ipodpatcher still be able to work with it? |
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| 02:14:12 | Lars_G | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System |
| 02:14:12 | Lars_G | /dev/sda1 1 35 68324 0 Empty |
| 02:14:12 | Lars_G | /dev/sda2 36 1023 1929564 b W95 FAT32 |
| 02:14:16 | Lars_G | that's the table on my baby |
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| 02:14:51 | linuxstb | Try commenting out the "return -1" at line 197 of ipodpatcher.c That should be harmless if you know you're accessing the right disk. |
| 02:15:04 | Lars_G | Nod I will |
| 02:16:51 | Lars_G | linuxstb: Yep seems to work well: [INFO] Ipod model: 1st Generation Nano |
| 02:17:08 | linuxstb | That's good. It means it recognises your firmware partition. |
| 02:17:15 | Lars_G | yes |
| 02:17:33 | Lars_G | And the start sector and ammount of copied sectors seems congruent with the partition table |
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| 02:18:29 | Lars_G | repaste the url of the newest nano bootloader please |
| 02:18:42 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/irc/current.txt |
| 02:18:51 | Lars_G | thanks |
| 02:18:57 | SUSaiyan | nice bootloader |
| 02:19:18 | hachi | Llorean: why did you post to that thread saying the same thing you did two days ago? I'm watching those threads for actual news, and so far half the posts have been about how to treat the thread |
| 02:19:27 | hachi | the 80gb ipod thread |
| 02:19:29 | SUSaiyan | i wouldnt put that in my firmware partition though |
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| 02:20:11 | Lars_G | [INFO] Bootloader bootloader-ipodnano.ipod written to device. |
| 02:20:23 | Llorean | hachi: I posted to it again, in place of a post that was exactly what my post says not to do. |
| 02:20:30 | Llorean | I erased a post to put mine up. |
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| 02:20:46 | Lars_G | Ok now to unzip my last compile.... |
| 02:20:51 | Llorean | I'll remove it in 24 hours, once I'm confident that the person whose post I removed has read it. |
| 02:21:51 | hachi | Llorean: is there a place to go to read the status of the 80gb one? because nobody has explained the current state... it just says 'not working'... which could mean that it starts my ipod on fire, or it locks up, or anything |
| 02:22:12 | Llorean | hachi: It does not start. |
| 02:22:15 | Lars_G | sigh my monitor is so covered in dropplets of saliva I need to clean it |
| 02:22:17 | linuxstb | hachi: Rockbox can't access the disk... |
| 02:22:36 | linuxstb | But everything else seems to work (as far as can be tested without accessing the disk) |
| 02:22:50 | hachi | everything else being... the loader? |
| 02:22:54 | linuxstb | So it just needs one breakthrough which may be 6 hours or 6 months away. |
| 02:22:56 | Lars_G | Llorean: So if I am right, once I finish my general config and audio config. i need to save it, then read it for it to be applied as default? |
| 02:23:03 | Llorean | everything else being "once the disk works, it should be as functional as all the other iPod ports" |
| 02:23:46 | Llorean | Lars_G: I don't understand the question. There is no real "default", settings just persist. |
| 02:24:05 | linuxstb | Lars_G: It's the default before you save it... |
| 02:24:12 | hachi | but rockbox depends on a loader as well, and I don't know the state of the loader either, where do you find that part out? |
| 02:24:17 | Lars_G | linuxstb: So changes SHOULD persist? |
| 02:24:27 | hachi | I mean, I think it does... you can correct me of course |
| 02:24:27 | Lars_G | Dah yes my wording was off sorry |
| 02:24:32 | linuxstb | hachi: The Rockbox bootloader is just a stripped-down version of Rockbox. So the status of both is the same. |
| 02:24:43 | hachi | ahh, okay |
| 02:24:43 | linuxstb | (they share the same drivers) |
| 02:24:48 | Lars_G | Ah the loader is based on the rockbox kernel? |
| 02:25:01 | linuxstb | Indeed. Why implement everything twice? |
| 02:25:14 | Lars_G | yes that's smart but not always possible |
| 02:25:44 | linuxstb | The smart thing is making it possible... |
| 02:25:49 | Llorean | hehehe |
| 02:26:24 | Lars_G | is it me, or codepages have become fewer in the last cvs? |
| 02:26:58 | Lars_G | Hmmm |
| 02:27:20 | hachi | final question, is it possible to get the forums to email me a copy of the post that was made, not just a message saying 'hey, check out the website', because I tend to read my email on a train... and it does me no good that way |
| 02:27:25 | Lars_G | I wonder if some hand-in-hand working on a metadata database format between rockbox and amarok would be benefical for both |
| 02:28:07 | Lars_G | I like the new bootloader background color |
| 02:28:15 | hachi | or perhaps an unpaginated view of the topic? |
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| 02:28:50 | linuxstb | Lars_G: Do you mean an application/plugin/something to convert between the two database formats? |
| 02:28:50 | Lars_G | So in conclusion do I need to save and load the config for it to persist? |
| 02:28:58 | Llorean | hachi: "paginated" is not a real word as far as I'm aware, so I'm not sure what you mean by it. |
| 02:29:07 | linuxstb | No. All settings changes _should_ persist. If they don't it's a bug. |
| 02:29:18 | Lars_G | linuxstb: I mean reach a reusable format that not only rockbox but many desktop audio players can easily work with. |
| 02:29:21 | hachi | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paginated |
| 02:29:28 | Lars_G | linuxstb: A semi std many can agree on. |
| 02:29:34 | linuxstb | One thing to make sure is that you shut down cleanly - i.e. hold PLAY/PAUSE for a few seconds, don't just reset. |
| 02:30:00 | Llorean | hachi: Okay, then no, there is no way to do what you've asked. |
| 02:30:06 | Llorean | hachi: Though there are mobile versions of the page. |
| 02:30:14 | Lars_G | Are settings copied to the settings area at change time or at shutdown time? |
| 02:30:29 | Llorean | Lars_G: Next disk spinup after they've been changed. |
| 02:30:46 | Lars_G | Llorean: My disk doesn't spins |
| 02:30:53 | linuxstb | You have a Nano? |
| 02:30:57 | Lars_G | Yes |
| 02:31:09 | Llorean | Lars_G: Yes, but when Rockbox next would spin up a disk, it's treated as if it actually did, or should be. |
| 02:31:19 | Llorean | Basically, next read or write. |
| 02:31:39 | Lars_G | Llorean: Ok so opening file for play for example should cause a "spin" and drop the config buffer into disk |
| 02:31:41 | Lars_G | ok. thanks |
| 02:31:57 | JdGordon | Lars_G: it only saves if its been told it needs to be saved |
| 02:31:59 | Lars_G | I wonder if there is any theme that is attractive and usefull |
| 02:32:18 | Lars_G | JdGordon: told how. by the user, or system |
| 02:33:25 | JdGordon | by the system |
| 02:35:15 | * | JdGordon wonders why the config_block is used and not a proper binary file instead? |
| 02:38:24 | linuxstb | JdGordon: What do you mean? I thought you would know the reasons... |
| 02:41:14 | JdGordon | what? so the whole thing can be read/written in one shot? |
| 02:42:11 | linuxstb | You're asking why the disk sector is used, and not a binary file? |
| 02:42:20 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 02:42:44 | linuxstb | My understanding was that it's because of the caching and that no-one had written the ATA callback-on-spinup thing. |
| 02:43:07 | linuxstb | So the sector was cached at the ATA level, not the filesystem level. |
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| 02:43:47 | JdGordon | ok |
| 02:44:25 | Digamma | is there anyone here who owns a Sansa e200 |
| 02:44:34 | Digamma | How do you go into recovery mode |
| 02:45:41 | linuxstb | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html |
| 02:46:00 | Digamma | thank you |
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| 02:52:14 | dewdude | is it perfectly normal for my ipod to give me the white screen saying "please restore with itunes" once in a while? |
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| 02:53:10 | Llorean | Jeeze, Sudoko and Solitaire on iPod are 25mb and 45mb respectively... |
| 02:53:35 | Doomed | the ones you buy or the rockbox? |
| 02:54:10 | dewdude | ..rockbox |
| 02:55:49 | Llorean | The ones you buy |
| 02:55:53 | Llorean | The Rockbox ones are tiny, tiny. |
| 02:56:06 | Llorean | The whole Rockbox download isn't even close to 25mb. |
| 02:56:31 | Lars_G | Llorean: horrible, sudoku should use a grid generator, not a file with preset grids |
| 02:57:52 | Llorean | Preset grids allow much more reliable difficulty control, at least |
| 02:58:16 | linuxstb | The purists will say that hand-crafted grids are the best... |
| 02:58:19 | Soap | and the ability to play the same game as your friend. |
| 02:58:52 | Doomed | good points |
| 02:59:01 | Doomed | but i dont think it should be 25 mb lol |
| 02:59:03 | Soap | purists also say $2,000 power cables... |
| 02:59:19 | linuxstb | Yes, and wooden volume knobs... |
| 02:59:29 | Lars_G | And markers for CDs |
| 02:59:41 | Lars_G | If you know that one ;) |
| 02:59:49 | Lars_G | you get a star |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:13 | linuxstb | But yes, a sudoku game takes 81 bytes to store (if you're inefficient)... |
| 03:00:23 | Lars_G | Well it does say good things you don't know that one |
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| 03:00:30 | Lars_G | altough I know it because I like to mock "purists" |
| 03:00:52 | TheRealHX | hey |
| 03:00:55 | Lars_G | hey |
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| 03:01:47 | HorizonX | anyone in here familliar with raenye's dualboot loader for the X5? |
| 03:02:27 | jhMikeS | :) lemme butt in and say, if the srand in sudoku/generator function were able to always be seeded with the same value, you'd get the same game. right now it uses the current tick to seed it. |
| 03:02:49 | * | HorizonX blinks |
| 03:03:05 | HorizonX | yeah, that's how seeding works? =P |
| 03:03:09 | * | jhMikeS just had to check it out |
| 03:03:27 | SUSaiyan | linuxstb: have you ever tried one of these restore applications? :) |
| 03:03:31 | jhMikeS | if you seed the rand with a given number, it generates the same pseudorandom sequence |
| 03:03:37 | Lars_G | The CD marker is this, for a while in the horrid "Audiophile" magazine, a special marker was advertised, which you used to mark the external circunference of CDs, in theory it avoided laser refraction and dissipation, eliminating read errors. |
| 03:03:50 | linuxstb | SUSaiyan: Are you talking about your trashed disk? |
| 03:03:55 | SUSaiyan | yes :) |
| 03:04:11 | linuxstb | No, luckily I've never had the need. |
| 03:04:12 | Lars_G | That's because rands are not based on real randomness but on a mathematical formula. |
| 03:04:15 | SUSaiyan | it managed to find all my files ;) |
| 03:04:21 | HorizonX | lol |
| 03:04:33 | Lars_G | There ARE real random ics but I doubt makers will put one in a DAP |
| 03:04:33 | SUSaiyan | but to restore, you need the full version :D |
| 03:04:34 | HorizonX | those are the type of people that buy monster-branded speaker cablw |
| 03:04:35 | SUSaiyan | i love that |
| 03:04:36 | HorizonX | cable* |
| 03:04:42 | Lars_G | HorizonX: exactly |
| 03:04:44 | jhMikeS | so if you could select a game number, you could play the same game :P |
| 03:05:05 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: I look forward to the patch :) |
| 03:05:22 | SUSaiyan | okay anyway, im going to sleep now, cant save the recovered files untill thursday anyway |
| 03:05:23 | Lars_G | Well see you all. it's nice to know the channel is not made entirely of pedants :) |
| 03:05:24 | * | Lars_G bows |
| 03:05:25 | Lars_G | be well |
| 03:05:49 | Lars_G | I wonder if it'd be mad to add reiserFS to rockbox, lol |
| 03:05:56 | Lars_G | possibly, since the OF will never read it |
| 03:06:00 | linuxstb | Feel free... |
| 03:06:04 | linuxstb | Why run the OF? |
| 03:06:17 | Doomed | an option |
| 03:06:20 | Lars_G | linuxstb: I have reasons to. for example currently rockbox lacks good m4b support |
| 03:06:27 | Lars_G | See you latter |
| 03:06:30 | HorizonX | what player are you guys talking about? |
| 03:06:40 | Doomed | ipod i assumr |
| 03:06:44 | Lars_G | I'd like to add m4b support but that's a latter, bigger patch let me begin with the metronome |
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| 03:07:13 | * | Llorean thought M4Bs were primarily just M4As marked to be known as audiobooks. |
| 03:07:26 | * | HorizonX thought that too |
| 03:07:59 | Doomed | same |
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| 03:08:28 | Doomed | If you name your file m4b then your AAC file will be "bookmarkable" and have chapter |
| 03:08:55 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: it seems like an easy do but my head is in the playback code like quicksand :) |
| 03:09:17 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: And Rockbox needs you to stay there :) |
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| 03:10:27 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: why? so I don't bother anyone else? :P You know I like getting my hands in everone's pie. |
| 03:11:01 | linuxstb | :) I mean the playback code can always do with improving... |
| 03:11:23 | * | linuxstb realises it's 2.11am and goes to bed |
| 03:11:59 | * | jhMikeS usually realizes it's 2.11am and has lunch :) |
| 03:13:20 | * | JdGordon realises in fact it is 1.13pm and thinks your all nuts :p |
| 03:14:29 | * | Soap just made his first recording on his iPod. |
| 03:14:38 | JdGordon | congrats |
| 03:14:45 | Soap | I'm very excited. |
| 03:14:58 | Soap | but have lots of reading to do. |
| 03:15:55 | Soap | line-out from one ipod into line-in on another sounds pretty good. |
| 03:17:54 | JdGordon | my ~/rockbox folder is 435bm! |
| 03:18:08 | JdGordon | 435mb even |
| 03:18:21 | jhMikeS | begamytes? |
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| 03:19:34 | HorizonX | LOL |
| 03:19:45 | HorizonX | begamytes ftw (and didn't mean for caps lock there) |
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| 06:37:28 | dixon_sxe | alguien me puede ayudar a instalar en mi ipod rockbox o linux? |
| 06:38:24 | TheCollector | Habla ingles? |
| 06:39:09 | dixon_sxe | ammm |
| 06:39:35 | dixon_sxe | someone that help me to install ipod linux o rockbox? |
| 06:39:45 | TheCollector | I probably can |
| 06:39:53 | dixon_sxe | yes |
| 06:39:55 | dixon_sxe | :) |
| 06:39:58 | TheCollector | what kind of ipod? |
| 06:40:05 | dixon_sxe | i have a ipod video 3g |
| 06:40:14 | dixon_sxe | sorry 30 gb |
| 06:40:41 | dixon_sxe | can you help me? |
| 06:41:06 | TheCollector | I think so |
| 06:41:12 | dixon_sxe | :O |
| 06:41:22 | dixon_sxe | have you msn? |
| 06:41:37 | TheCollector | no |
| 06:43:12 | TheCollector | dixon_sxe: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta |
| 06:43:17 | TheCollector | have you seen that? |
| 06:43:54 | dixon_sxe | yes |
| 06:44:21 | TheCollector | what are you having trouble with? |
| 06:46:45 | dixon_sxe | when i down the programs |
| 06:47:09 | dixon_sxe | and when i programing in cmd |
| 06:48:09 | TheCollector | using ipodpatcher? |
| 06:48:53 | dixon_sxe | yes |
| 06:49:06 | dixon_sxe | well when i run the ipod |
| 06:49:12 | dixon_sxe | don't chek nothing |
| 06:49:39 | TheCollector | I don't understand |
| 06:49:47 | TheCollector | have you installed the bootloader? |
| 06:50:01 | dixon_sxe | no |
| 06:50:21 | TheCollector | ok |
| 06:50:56 | dixon_sxe | what programs i down? |
| 06:51:04 | TheCollector | for linux, correct? |
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| 06:51:23 | dixon_sxe | tes |
| 06:51:24 | dixon_sxe | yes |
| 06:51:39 | TheCollector | x86? |
| 06:52:06 | dixon_sxe | ok |
| 06:52:09 | TheCollector | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-linux32x86/ipodpatcher |
| 06:52:11 | dixon_sxe | i down this program |
| 06:52:30 | TheCollector | yes |
| 06:52:39 | TheCollector | and download this bootloader: |
| 06:52:41 | TheCollector | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod |
| 06:53:22 | dixon_sxe | ok |
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| 06:54:02 | dixon_sxe | what will i do with http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ipodpatcher-linux32x86/ipodpatcher? |
| 06:54:15 | TheCollector | you'll run it in a second |
| 06:55:17 | TheCollector | dixon_sxe: is your ipod drive mounted? |
| 06:56:06 | dixon_sxe | is a |
| 06:56:26 | dixon_sxe | yes |
| 06:56:40 | dixon_sxe | but i have a computer windows no mac |
| 06:56:56 | TheCollector | oh - I thought you ran linux |
| 06:57:33 | dixon_sxe | nono |
| 06:57:38 | dixon_sxe | i install linxu |
| 06:57:54 | TheCollector | rockbox is not linux |
| 06:58:20 | TheCollector | ipodlinux is a different project |
| 06:58:48 | dixon_sxe | :O |
| 06:58:57 | dixon_sxe | well i want the ipod linux |
| 06:59:00 | dixon_sxe | xD |
| 06:59:05 | TheCollector | ok |
| 06:59:31 | TheCollector | you need to look here if you want it: |
| 06:59:33 | TheCollector | http://ipodlinux.org/Main_Page |
| 06:59:46 | TheCollector | I do not know how to install ipodlinux |
| 06:59:59 | dixon_sxe | well i saw that |
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| 07:00:39 | Llorean | This is not the iPodLinux channel, so it's the wrong place to ask for help with it anyway. |
| 07:00:45 | TheCollector | right |
| 07:00:51 | TheCollector | use #ipodlinux |
| 07:02:17 | dixon_sxe | tanks |
| 07:03:32 | TheCollector | you're welcome |
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| 07:53:40 | * | myzar licks scorche |
| 07:54:54 | scorche | heh...you wouldnt be licking me if you knew what i was slacking on doing... |
| 07:58:07 | myzar | SCORCHE |
| 07:58:13 | scorche | what? |
| 07:58:22 | myzar | YOU MARCH RIGHT UP TO YOUR 80 GIG IPOD AND GET TO DEBUGGING |
| 07:58:23 | JdGordon | scorche: you have the powaa!! ban he mofo |
| 07:58:26 | myzar | or heads will roll |
| 07:58:32 | myzar | ;p |
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| 07:58:39 | scorche | i dont have one |
| 07:58:44 | myzar | lol |
| 07:58:46 | myzar | ;\ |
| 07:58:52 | myzar | well, uhh. |
| 07:59:03 | myzar | i still less than 3 you |
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| 08:01:14 | scorche | lovely |
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| 08:07:57 | scorche | heh...that |
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| 08:08:15 | scorche | and why would i ban myzar?...i get licks! |
| 08:08:30 | JdGordon | and rabbies :D |
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| 08:17:58 | lex | yay i'm 14 now |
| 08:18:50 | JdGordon | birthday bashings!!! |
| 08:19:09 | lex | ;o |
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| 08:25:39 | lex | nothing more |
| 08:25:48 | lex | or grub.conf, depends on your distribution |
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| 09:17:51 | petur | take that for licking :p |
| 09:18:39 | scorche | mahna mahna |
| 09:19:04 | petur | do doooo do do do |
| 09:19:35 | webguest20 | I don't know whether this has been discussed before so forgive my ignoranceif it has. With the new (well, not so new anymore) action code in place, we could easily implement a "key reference" feature. |
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| 09:20:08 | webguest20 | I mean: press a special key and a list of all possible keys with their meaning would be displayed. |
| 09:20:34 | scorche | the only way that would be implemented would be in a plugin |
| 09:20:47 | webguest20 | To do that, we should add a short description for every action. |
| 09:20:48 | scorche | but honestly, i would rather people just read the manual |
| 09:21:08 | scorche | it isnt *that* tough/complex |
| 09:21:50 | webguest20 | scorche: I know the keys in the screens I use often. But e.g. in the screen where I type file name I feel unsure. |
| 09:21:59 | petur | a kepmap help plugin isn't such a bad idea |
| 09:22:25 | scorche | the text editor? |
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| 09:26:26 | webguest20 | scorche: no, I mean e.g. the case when I save the settings and have to type in the file name |
| 09:26:46 | scorche | yeah...the text editor/virtual keyboard |
| 09:27:21 | petur | webguest20: create a feature request in the tracker (if there's not onle like that already). I'm all for it. |
| 09:27:23 | webguest20 | scorche: ah... I thouth this is the line editor and that there's a separate text editor plugin |
| 09:28:06 | webguest20 | petur: I also don't know if one exists. That's why I asked about an earlier discussion |
| 09:28:10 | scorche | also, some people are looking at making a type of reader plugin that would also allow us to put the whole manual on the device if wished |
| 09:28:21 | scorche | webguest20: there is a search function |
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| 09:28:34 | amiconn | scorche: The text viewer already exists |
| 09:28:59 | petur | scorche: a full manual is a bit overkill, a quick help would be nice |
| 09:29:02 | scorche | amiconn: i was referring to the one that could parse pdfs/html |
| 09:29:16 | amiconn | hahaaa, pdf |
| 09:29:27 | scorche | petur: i know...just saying...although, i agree with a quick help guide, and that has been mentioned before |
| 09:29:34 | GodEater_Web | do iPod ATA devices normally report themselves as removeable media ? |
| 09:29:38 | webguest20 | scorche: port ghostscript to RB? |
| 09:29:39 | * | scorche winks at amiconn |
| 09:29:45 | amiconn | That will be a real challenge for the reader... the screen is way too small for pdf |
| 09:30:07 | GodEater_Web | sorry - ignore that - counted wrong |
| 09:30:32 | scorche | pdf > html > device possibly...i never got into the discussions of that plugin though |
| 09:31:09 | webguest20 | I searched for "key map" and found two entries. But they are not about a key map. So I'll probably file a feature request, later. |
| 09:31:43 | amiconn | GodEater_Web: Here's my commented version: http://amiconn.dyndns.org/ata_identify_5.5G.txt |
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| 09:38:33 | GodEater_Web | amiconn : thanks :) |
| 09:39:26 | amiconn | Word 2 (specific configuration) is less special than one might think |
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| 09:39:35 | GodEater_Web | you've no comment against 59 |
| 09:39:53 | amiconn | The MK2006GAL (iaudio X5) gives the same value |
| 09:40:06 | GodEater_Web | and multiple sectors work on that I assume ? |
| 09:41:12 | amiconn | word 59 == 0 is normal before set_features sets the corrent number of multisectors |
| 09:41:21 | linuxstb | Would an ata_identify dump from my MK6006GAH be helpful? (60GB ipod Color) |
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| 09:41:42 | amiconn | At least it can't hurt. |
| 09:41:49 | GodEater_Web | yeah - I'd be interested to see that |
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| 09:42:11 | linuxstb | OK, I'll do it now. |
| 09:42:12 | * | amiconn dumped the config of his MK2006GAL (probably same firmware as the MK6006GAH - same generation) |
| 09:42:38 | lachlan | i think it would be great if there was a version of the manual viewable on the player |
| 09:42:47 | linuxstb | When in the process should I do it? |
| 09:43:05 | Bagder | lachlan: feel free to work on that |
| 09:43:13 | GodEater_Web | same point I did it |
| 09:43:27 | lachlan | stating my opinion doesnt equate to me volunteering to make one |
| 09:43:28 | GodEater_Web | actually it doesn't matter |
| 09:43:35 | amiconn | A dump from a 30GB G5.5 would be interesting as well |
| 09:43:41 | GodEater_Web | it just has to be done after the identify() call |
| 09:43:54 | linuxstb | So I should do it in ata.c ? |
| 09:43:57 | GodEater_Web | yeah |
| 09:44:08 | GodEater_Web | although, if you're feeling generous |
| 09:44:15 | GodEater_Web | you could do me two :) |
| 09:44:26 | GodEater_Web | one before set_features() and set_multiple_mode() |
| 09:44:34 | linuxstb | Can you send me a patch? I'm a bit busy... |
| 09:44:37 | GodEater_Web | and one after - but you'd have to call identify() again after those two |
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| 09:44:58 | GodEater_Web | gimme a mo |
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| 09:46:30 | amiconn | GodEater_Web: You could try to take another identify dump after set_features() and check whether any of the features actually get set |
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| 09:47:02 | GodEater_Web | I tried that yesterday - but I only checked the odd word here and there - I'll roll my sleeves up and do a full one again today |
| 09:48:23 | GodEater_Web | linuxstb: re: patch - I'm probably the wrong person to ask for that: a) I can't do a nice one against the CVS tree from work, b) I've not got around to writing any routines to write the thing to disk since I can't - so my patch will just have lots of lcd_puts() in it |
| 09:49:14 | linuxstb | GodEater_Web: OK, no problem. Just to confirm, I should dump the ata_identify before and after the call to set_features() ? |
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| 09:50:29 | * | linuxstb notices some nasty ^M characters around the new BIGLBA code |
| 09:51:40 | LinusN | i think BIGLBA should be LBA48 |
| 09:52:01 | Bagder | we can tell Jörg's been out of the loop for too long ;-) |
| 09:52:23 | LinusN | let's revoke his cvs access :-) |
| 09:52:32 | LinusN | that'll teach him |
| 09:52:34 | GodEater_Web | linuxstb: after the call to set_multiple_mode() would be the best |
| 09:53:06 | * | linuxstb removed CR characters from ata.c |
| 09:54:57 | LinusN | i think we should rename biglba to lba48 |
| 09:55:16 | LinusN | since that is the common term for it |
| 09:55:21 | Bagder | yes |
| 09:55:34 | GodEater_Web | yep |
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| 10:03:14 | markun | Bagder: I thought I had merged the gigabeat code to the rockbox cvs to be committed, but the resulting bootloader left my gigabeat unusable. |
| 10:03:23 | markun | will have to open my player to recover |
| 10:03:40 | Bagder | :-/ |
| 10:04:07 | markun | When I find the problem I will commit and you can add the gigabeat to the build table |
| 10:04:25 | Bagder | indeed! |
| 10:05:04 | markun | Could the bootloader also be on the download page or do you think we should put a working one in a wiki page? |
| 10:05:04 | * | myzar waves at Bagder |
| 10:05:17 | myzar | hey linuxboy ;] |
| 10:05:33 | myzar | er, linuxstb ;p |
| 10:05:43 | linuxboy | myzar: hey |
| 10:05:54 | Bagder | markun: we have all the other bootloaders on the download site |
| 10:06:04 | markun | myzar: why were you banned from other channels? |
| 10:06:12 | Bagder | to avoid the risk of someone editing the bootloader file in wiki |
| 10:06:18 | petur | markun: can't guess? |
| 10:06:29 | markun | I can, that's why I was asking :) |
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| 10:07:45 | markun | Bagder: can't find them. Which page are they on? |
| 10:10:21 | linuxstb | Bagder: What do you think about including the mi4 decryption in the bootloader and/or rolo? |
| 10:13:53 | linuxstb | Bagder: I've also updated the ipod bootloaders to include yesterday's crt0-pp.S commit - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodbootloaders.tgz |
| 10:14:00 | * | linuxstb suspects Bagder isn't here... |
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| 10:15:25 | GodEater_Web | hmm |
| 10:15:35 | GodEater_Web | the only difference I've seen so far is in word 128 :( |
| 10:15:46 | GodEater_Web | which starts with a value of 0 |
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| 10:15:53 | GodEater_Web | and then becomes 9 after set_features() |
| 10:18:19 | myzar | i don't know, markun |
| 10:18:23 | myzar | i think XBMC is gone back to efnet |
| 10:18:31 | myzar | and as for ##C++, i think they banned me for my BNC |
| 10:18:40 | myzar | and how it changes my name to myzar|away when i'm away |
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| 10:18:58 | myzar | or not... it's still there |
| 10:19:30 | myzar | i guess i'm just hated ;\ |
| 10:19:40 | markun | yes, probably |
| 10:19:58 | markun | What's BNC? |
| 10:20:36 | Bagder | linuxstb: yes, I would prefer the decryption being made by us and not premade with mi4code |
| 10:20:49 | Bagder | markun: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ |
| 10:20:52 | GodEater_Web | BNC is an irc proxy |
| 10:21:04 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: that is the result of the freeze_lock() |
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| 10:23:50 | GodEater_Web | well the important one, which would seem to be 88, seems unchanged |
| 10:24:12 | GodEater_Web | it still seems to say that UDMA4 is selected |
| 10:24:49 | LinusN | hmmm, set_features() doesn't seem to do the right thing |
| 10:26:00 | GodEater_Web | we do attempt to do three things in there right ? Power saving, acoustice managements, and PIO mode? |
| 10:26:15 | LinusN | this is not right: if (identify_info[features[i].id_word] & (1 << features[i].id_bit)) |
| 10:26:23 | GodEater_Web | no ? |
| 10:26:34 | LinusN | it is always false |
| 10:26:40 | GodEater_Web | er |
| 10:26:49 | GodEater_Web | it doesn't return false for the PIO command |
| 10:26:51 | GodEater_Web | I checked |
| 10:27:00 | GodEater_Web | it does for the first two though |
| 10:27:47 | GodEater_Web | at least, it doesn't appear to - although I confess I'm not sure quite what it's doing. "<<" is a bitshift isn't it ? |
| 10:27:51 | LinusN | ah, ignore me |
| 10:28:06 | LinusN | me silly |
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| 10:30:38 | markun | gotthardt from #gigabeat noticed CONFIG_CHARGING was misspelled as "CONFIG_CHARING" in firmware/powermgmt.c |
| 10:31:05 | * | [IDC]Dragon feels guilty about ata.c |
| 10:31:27 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: what does word 64 say? |
| 10:31:51 | GodEater_Web | 0x3 |
| 10:32:37 | [IDC]Dragon | what was wrong, is there anything different with cvs about CR chars? |
| 10:32:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I've been using msdev as always |
| 10:33:44 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: and word 53? |
| 10:33:53 | GodEater_Web | 0x7 |
| 10:33:55 | linuxstb | [IDC]Dragon: The lines you had changed had CR/LF line-endings, but the rest of the file (and all other files in Rockbox CVS) have a LF line-ending. |
| 10:34:13 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: ok |
| 10:34:19 | GodEater_Web | does msdev even support saving with only LF ? |
| 10:34:42 | [IDC]Dragon | is that "new"? (as in, less than 2 years) |
| 10:34:49 | Bagder | nope |
| 10:35:01 | linuxstb | What CVS client do you use? Cygwin? |
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| 10:35:11 | [IDC]Dragon | tortoise |
| 10:35:42 | [IDC]Dragon | I use the same toolchain since ages, so I wonder |
| 10:36:09 | webguest99 | As webguest-20 disappeared, I've stepped in and added the feature request about the key map (plugin?). |
| 10:36:21 | petur | tortoise is not to blame, your editor probably is... |
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| 10:38:50 | [IDC]Dragon | msdev can work with LF only, and leaves it intact. However, I'm not sure about newly inserted lines |
| 10:39:39 | petur | msdev can't handle lf only |
| 10:39:51 | petur | at least it can't here |
| 10:40:02 | [IDC]Dragon | I use VC6 |
| 10:40:25 | petur | 2003.net at home iirc |
| 10:40:59 | GodEater_Web | what's the difference between the three PIO settings you can select with SET FEATURES ? |
| 10:41:10 | LinusN | the timing |
| 10:41:36 | LinusN | and handshake with IORDY |
| 10:42:16 | LinusN | we need to find out if SET FEATURES works at all |
| 10:42:30 | GodEater_Web | open to suggestions for things to try :) |
| 10:42:57 | [IDC]Dragon | I'll change biglba to lba48 tonight, per request ;-) |
| 10:43:25 | [IDC]Dragon | in our case, it's rather lba32 though... |
| 10:45:02 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: try this: disable the code that updates the PIO mode in the table |
| 10:45:21 | LinusN | [IDC]Dragon: not protocol wise |
| 10:45:29 | [IDC]Dragon | i know |
| 10:45:36 | GodEater_Web | LinusN: you mean in set_features() ? |
| 10:45:40 | LinusN | yes |
| 10:46:01 | GodEater_Web | and then what ? |
| 10:46:03 | [IDC]Dragon | but we don't want longlongs in the file code now, do we? |
| 10:46:16 | LinusN | no |
| 10:46:32 | LinusN | it's fine as it is |
| 10:46:56 | LinusN | GodEater_Web: then we will select the default PIO mode instead of a specific one |
| 10:46:56 | [IDC]Dragon | 2 terabyte to wait for |
| 10:47:40 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox 64 bit enterprise edition :-) |
| 10:47:41 | GodEater_Web | ah - so just leave it commented, and do nothing else ? |
| 10:49:08 | LinusN | exactly, this line should be commented: |
| 10:49:09 | LinusN | features[3].parameter = 8 + pio_mode; |
| 10:51:25 | GodEater_Web | right - well that still doesn't work with CMD_READ_SECTORS, I'm putting CMD_READ_MULTIPLE back |
| 10:51:59 | LinusN | i'm more interested in what the identofy info says |
| 10:52:18 | GodEater_Web | you want the whole lot again ? |
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| 10:53:54 | LinusN | only the info about the current transfer mode |
| 10:55:04 | GodEater_Web | 88 again ? |
| 10:56:00 | LinusN | and 63 |
| 10:57:47 | GodEater_Web | 63 is 0x7, 88 is 0x101F |
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| 11:01:30 | GodEater_Web | that's completely unchanged |
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| 11:04:33 | LinusN | the IDNF bit is still set, right? |
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| 11:05:35 | GodEater_Web | didn't check |
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| 11:07:03 | LinusN | as far as i can see, dma can still be selected without any problems |
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| 11:08:34 | GodEater_Web | Status : 0x50, Error:0x1 |
| 11:09:07 | LinusN | which command? read_sectors? |
| 11:09:14 | GodEater_Web | yep |
| 11:09:19 | GodEater_Web | oh sorry |
| 11:09:26 | GodEater_Web | read multiple |
| 11:09:51 | GodEater_Web | but in ata_read_sectors() |
| 11:13:50 | LinusN | status=0x50 and error=0x01 doesn't look like an error to me |
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| 11:14:26 | GodEater_Web | yeah - I just realised I put the output in the wrong place - sorry :( |
| 11:14:31 | GodEater_Web | bear with me |
| 11:14:40 | GodEater_Web | I left it after the mutex_unlock() |
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| 11:15:37 | GodEater_Web | Status :0x59 and Error: 0x10 |
| 11:15:54 | GodEater_Web | that's right after the status read in read_sectors() |
| 11:16:13 | LinusN | ok, i'd like you to use READ_SECTORS instead |
| 11:16:19 | GodEater_Web | ok |
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| 11:17:01 | GodEater_Web | same result |
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| 11:21:43 | s4mur4j3n | hum, anybody feeling like trying to help a boor bastard? just tried to install rockbox and now my Ipod nano can't get passed the apple logo during booting.. :/ |
| 11:22:01 | s4mur4j3n | (1st gen, CVS Build was used) |
| 11:24:15 | s4mur4j3n | the only thing it responds to is holding down Menu Select and such reboot it.. but it still doesn't go any further then showing the apple logo |
| 11:24:46 | GodEater_Web | s4mur4j3n: which install method did you use ? |
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| 11:25:26 | s4mur4j3n | the old ipodpatcher+ipod_fw, as a video as the manual described it |
| 11:25:39 | s4mur4j3n | rockbox-ipodnano-20061220.pdf |
| 11:25:44 | s4mur4j3n | that specific one |
| 11:25:58 | s4mur4j3n | (should have the 1.3 fw for my ipod nano |
| 11:27:11 | GodEater_Web | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta <−− try that one |
| 11:27:53 | s4mur4j3n | if the damn thing would ever boot anything I´d love to, but its stuck at showing the apple logo :/ |
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| 11:28:44 | s4mur4j3n | and when I reboot it, it stops at the same stage as before.. showing the apple logo |
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| 11:29:00 | diemos | hello. |
| 11:29:20 | Bagder | s4mur4j3n: restart with the instructions in the URL mentioned above |
| 11:29:29 | linuxstb | s4mur4j3n: Force it into disk mode by holding SELECT+PLAY as it's booting. |
| 11:30:05 | linuxstb | Bagder: Did you see my updated set of ipod bootloaders? |
| 11:30:07 | s4mur4j3n | oh, THANK YOU! :D |
| 11:30:13 | diemos | anyone know if rockbox is out for Zune? |
| 11:30:26 | linuxstb | Bagder: http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/ipodbootloaders.tgz |
| 11:30:42 | Bagder | diemos: it isn't, no one even works on that |
| 11:31:07 | s4mur4j3n | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta is it the same as the bootloaders there? |
| 11:31:14 | diemos | Bagder, that's too bad, I'd really like to see it. |
| 11:31:31 | Bagder | diemos: then join in and make it happen! |
| 11:31:33 | linuxstb | diemos: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NewPort |
| 11:32:13 | Bagder | linuxstb: done! |
| 11:32:13 | diemos | Ha, the most i've done was some crappy bash scripting. |
| 11:32:15 | linuxstb | s4mur4j3n: I don't understand your question. You just follow the instructions on that page, downloading the files it tells you to. |
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| 11:32:27 | linuxstb | Bagder: Thankyou. |
| 11:32:46 | s4mur4j3n | linuxstb: the question was as following, the link you gave me with a set of bootloaders, is it the same as the ones found on http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationBeta ? |
| 11:32:49 | diemos | linuxstb, i really do wish i could program, but alas I can't. |
| 11:33:27 | linuxstb | s4mur4j3n: I didn't give you that link, I gave it to Bagder so he could update the files linked to from the IpodInstallationBeta page. So yes, they are now the same files. |
| 11:33:32 | s4mur4j3n | ah |
| 11:33:35 | s4mur4j3n | =) |
| 11:33:59 | s4mur4j3n | sorry, haven't had any breakfast yet =P my brain ain't working as it should =) |
| 11:34:14 | linuxstb | no problem. |
| 11:34:23 | linuxstb | Give your brain some coffee. |
| 11:34:36 | GodEater_Web | talking of breakfast - it's long past time I made the Seattle based world domination organisation a bit richer |
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| 11:49:04 | diemos | if only i knew how to code... |
| 11:49:07 | diemos | /sigh |
| 11:49:20 | * | diemos goes and buys a C book. |
| 11:51:45 | petur | coding is only part of it |
| 11:53:56 | linuxstb | For a Zune port, you'll need to find out what encryption and other forms of hacking protection MS are no doubt using, and find ways around them. |
| 11:57:50 | diemos | encryption for what? you know MS+Encryption is a really good combination |
| 11:57:59 | GodEater_Web | and if it's anything like the job they've done on the Xbox360, it's bloody near impossible to get through |
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| 11:58:28 | diemos | actually the zune developers are fairly open with the product |
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| 11:58:59 | LinusN | afaik, zune is little more than a branded gigabeat |
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| 11:59:48 | diemos | well they've already got a number of small hacks out |
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| 12:00:20 | webguest17 | what's this? did i miss any information concerning the rockbox gigabeat ports? |
| 12:00:56 | diemos | Recognize it as a removable drive, upgrade storage space, free song transfers from person to person |
| 12:01:06 | webguest17 | (gigabeat=gigabeat/zune) |
| 12:01:25 | diemos | I'm just hoping that with Zune's cool wifi feature that you can eventually be able to surf with it. |
| 12:01:50 | diemos | Or.. throw linux on it and be able to set it up as a little wifi FTP or something like that |
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| 12:05:22 | diemos | but IMO, gigabeat has more features that i'd like to see in the Zune. |
| 12:07:17 | webguest17 | I'm sorry, but can someone tell me if any recent gigabeat port progress news came up tonight? |
| 12:07:54 | scorche | webguest17: http://www.hack.id.au/files/gigabeat/irc/gigabeat/ |
| 12:08:47 | webguest17 | scorche: thank you |
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| 12:21:53 | paloema | hi |
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| 12:22:49 | paloema | quick question, probably been asked a thousand times...wanna test rockbox for my ipod 5g, can i change back to normal ipod-control when i want to? |
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| 12:25:25 | diemos | you mean, install rockbox, test it out, and if you don't like it go back to regular iPod firmware? |
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| 12:26:41 | paloema | correct |
| 12:26:41 | Slasheri | paloema: yes, you can |
| 12:27:03 | Slasheri | just reboot the ipod and turn on hold switch |
| 12:27:11 | Slasheri | or with an older bootloader, hold down the play button |
| 12:27:32 | paloema | is it that easy? |
| 12:27:36 | Slasheri | yes |
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| 12:27:43 | Slasheri | then it boots the apple os |
| 12:27:57 | paloema | but by default it still loads rockbox then? |
| 12:28:14 | Slasheri | correct, but only if you have resetted your ipod |
| 12:28:27 | Slasheri | normally apple os never turns off the player |
| 12:28:39 | Slasheri | unless it has been left long time unused |
| 12:28:58 | paloema | and can i completely remove rockbox too? |
| 12:29:04 | Slasheri | yes |
| 12:29:29 | paloema | great. |
| 12:29:42 | paloema | another question: sleep timer is integrated in rockbox? |
| 12:30:11 | Slasheri | correct, after the specified idle time, rockbox shuts off |
| 12:30:12 | paloema | so i could turn on music and ipod is going to sleep after e.g. 60 minutes? |
| 12:30:33 | Slasheri | hmm, i think that feature is implemented too.. |
| 12:30:36 | Slasheri | but i have never used it |
| 12:30:43 | paloema | hm...idle time...if i hear an audiobook that is 10 hours |
| 12:30:46 | diemos | paloma: Rockbox > regular firmware, and i've known about it all of one hour |
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| 12:31:20 | paloema | and i want to hear only one hour...so does that work? |
| 12:31:46 | paloema | diemos: what do you mean? sorry, dont understnd |
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| 12:32:45 | GodEater_Web | has someone deleted the old 5.5G thread from the forums ? Or has it been moved ? |
| 12:34:06 | paloema | does someone know if sleep timer is working as i want it? or does it only work with after idling? |
| 12:36:26 | paloema | cause thats for me main reason to switch |
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| 12:37:20 | GodEater_Web | if that's the only reason I wouldn't bother |
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| 12:37:39 | PaulJam | on h300 you have a sleep timer that can be set in 5 minute steps to up to 5 hours. and since this feature is not hardware dependant i guess it is available on the other players too. |
| 12:38:28 | paloema | PaulJam: yeah. read that on manual too. but i am kind of confused if it stops then while playing or only after playing stopped |
| 12:38:42 | paloema | but second case wouldn't make too much sense i guess |
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| 12:39:46 | PaulJam | the sleeptiner (shutdown after x minutes) and the idle shutoff (schit down after x minutes of inactivity) are separate options. |
| 12:41:13 | paloema | great |
| 12:41:18 | paloema | thats i wanted to know |
| 12:41:30 | paloema | thanks PaulJam |
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| 12:42:30 | paloema | last question: is there a way to start original firmware by default and only start rockbox on demand? |
| 12:42:40 | amiconn | hi [IDC]Dragon :) |
| 12:43:13 | amiconn | LinusN: Maybe it's target dependent, but set_features() seems to work on at least some targets |
| 12:43:38 | amiconn | Remember, adding the PIO setting solved problems with certain HDs on archos |
| 12:43:59 | PaulJam | paloema: i think there exists an unofficial bootloader that starts the original firmware by default. and afaik this is possible whith the loader2 from ipodlinux too. |
| 12:44:38 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: 3.5" HDDs aren't that far away from breaking the 2TB barrier |
| 12:44:50 | PaulJam | (but those soulutions are not officially supported by rockbox) |
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| 12:47:00 | paloema | ok |
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| 12:48:25 | paloema | damn...my wife took ipod away for work :-\ |
| 12:48:38 | paloema | have to test later then... |
| 12:49:16 | linuxstb | GodEater_Web: I locked the old 5.5g thread, but it was still visible after I did that. But I can't find it now either... |
| 12:49:58 | | Nick Everybody|away is now known as Everybody (n=everybod@harpo.demon.co.uk) |
| 12:51:19 | GodEater_Web | linuxstb: bugger - there was still some useful info in there |
| 12:51:33 | [IDC]Dragon | hi Jens! |
| 12:52:42 | linuxstb | GodEater_Web: Hopefully someone can revive it... |
| 12:52:52 | [IDC]Dragon | I'd like a 2TB disk, indeed |
| 12:52:57 | linuxstb | (I don't have those kinds of rights on the forums) |
| 12:53:33 | [IDC]Dragon | no Rockbox-able devices with 3.5", afaik |
| 12:54:59 | GodEater_Web | fingers crossed |
| 12:55:04 | [IDC]Dragon | BTW, the ata driver carries some duplicate code, for read and write |
| 12:55:22 | amiconn | Take an archos board, a 2.5"->3.5" adapter, and a custom case... |
| 12:55:40 | [IDC]Dragon | I could clean that up, if we allow one more function call depth on stack |
| 12:56:03 | amiconn | Btw, you can change the contents of the secondary partition from within rockbox itself |
| 12:56:29 | [IDC]Dragon | yes, sure, it's not read only |
| 12:56:36 | amiconn | There is cut/copy/paste, which should also work with folders |
| 12:57:06 | amiconn | The LBA48 extension is less code than I expected... |
| 12:57:37 | amiconn | The only thing you need a PC for is creating the partitions |
| 12:57:47 | amiconn | (unless someone creates an fdisk plugin) |
| 12:58:48 | linuxstb | Creating the partition should be trivial IIUC. It's the formatting to FAT32 which is a little more work. |
| 12:58:58 | [IDC]Dragon | rockbox can cut/copy/paste ? |
| 12:59:03 | amiconn | yup |
| 12:59:11 | amiconn | Check the context menu... |
| 12:59:28 | [IDC]Dragon | last thing I was aware of is delete |
| 12:59:41 | * | [IDC]Dragon has no box at hand |
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| 13:00:02 | GodEater_Web | linuxstb: the start / size figures reported by ipodpatcher are in decimal yes ? |
| 13:00:06 | [IDC]Dragon | will that work across partitions? |
| 13:00:14 | amiconn | Yes it should |
| 13:00:19 | amiconn | On Ondio it does |
| 13:00:31 | amiconn | So one can update Rockbox on Ondio without a PC |
| 13:00:33 | [IDC]Dragon | great, so we need no norton commander plugin |
| 13:01:04 | amiconn | Just put the Update on an MMC, take it to the Ondio, and copy it to the internal flash |
| 13:01:23 | [IDC]Dragon | can it unzip? ;-) |
| 13:01:30 | amiconn | nah. |
| 13:01:42 | amiconn | But an unzip plugin shouldn't be too difficult |
| 13:02:53 | [IDC]Dragon | so we could really need an fdisk+format plugin, then you don't have to take the disk out |
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| 13:03:55 | [IDC]Dragon | and copy 23 GB with Rockbox internal cut+paste... |
| 13:04:17 | amiconn | I don't think that taking out the disk is a problem, since you have can do it before installing the disk. |
| 13:04:47 | amiconn | But the more interesting part is that you wouldn't need a 2.5"->3.5" adapter |
| 13:05:07 | [IDC]Dragon | true |
| 13:05:27 | amiconn | Copying might take a while, but I don't think this is a problem |
| 13:05:44 | [IDC]Dragon | depends on the power supply |
| 13:05:50 | amiconn | Hooking up the unit to the charger might be a good idea though |
| 13:06:47 | [IDC]Dragon | and to a good one, the stock charger may be too weak for sustained disk activity |
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| 13:09:37 | amiconn | With fully charged batteries and today's NiMH capacities, I wouldn't expect problems |
| 13:09:59 | * | amiconn uses 2700mAh cells in his recorder and player |
| 13:10:31 | [IDC]Dragon | it's not a matter of batteries, on the long run the charger has to supply all the power for the disk |
| 13:11:31 | amiconn | The charger won't supply more than 350mA |
| 13:12:12 | amiconn | It just slows down discharge when the disk is constantly running, but today's NiMH cells are good for several hours of disk activity |
| 13:12:39 | * | amiconn would expect 6..7 hours from his cells without using the charger |
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| 13:14:11 | amiconn | Mhm, maybe somewhat less, as the current draw depends on whether the disk is just spinning or actually accessing data |
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| 13:14:52 | amiconn | My old video runtime test with the disk constantly spinning got 4 hours out of the stock batteries |
| 13:15:27 | Slasheri | with disk accessing data, the powerconsumption is times larger |
| 13:15:37 | Slasheri | over 500 mA on iriver |
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| 13:17:49 | * | [IDC]Dragon wonders about these lines in ata.c: |
| 13:18:01 | [IDC]Dragon | if ( count == 256 ) |
| 13:18:09 | [IDC]Dragon | SET_REG(ATA_NSECTOR, 0); /* 0 means 256 sectors */ |
| 13:18:16 | [IDC]Dragon | else |
| 13:18:19 | amiconn | Yes, I wondered the same yesterday |
| 13:18:25 | [IDC]Dragon | SET_REG(ATA_NSECTOR, (unsigned char)count); |
| 13:18:39 | [IDC]Dragon | the last one should do it all |
| 13:18:52 | amiconn | ANDing with 0xff removes the need to check for 256 |
| 13:19:04 | [IDC]Dragon | the cast alone should do it |
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| 13:19:16 | amiconn | (and casting to (unsigned char) should do that) |
| 13:19:22 | [IDC]Dragon | or could some C obscurity spoil it? |
| 13:19:42 | Slasheri | it would be better to do the ANDing for readability |
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| 13:20:45 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon: I'm not sure whether we can always trust the cast |
| 13:21:09 | [IDC]Dragon | ok, let's AND it |
| 13:21:14 | amiconn | On archos it should work even without the cast, as ATA_NSECTOR is defined as *(volatile unsigned char*) |
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| 13:21:27 | amiconn | ...but that wouldn't work on the coldfire targets |
| 13:21:36 | [IDC]Dragon | a smart compiler would eliminate that, I hope |
| 13:22:16 | amiconn | In such cases I usually check what gcc actually produces |
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| 13:25:40 | LTjake | Hello all. When i go to the "Write .cfg file" menu, if i press play to save the file, nothing seems to happen. Anyone else experience that? |
| 13:26:57 | petur | you mean no file gets written? |
| 13:27:45 | LTjake | well, yes, but it doesn't even return me to the menu again. it just sits there. (doesn't freeze, the button just doesn't seem to do anything) |
| 13:28:07 | LTjake | urr "well, yes" meaning, no the file isn't written :) |
| 13:28:51 | petur | strange... just checked here and I get the 'Settings Saved' splash |
| 13:29:09 | petur | what device? |
| 13:29:40 | LTjake | ipod mini 1g |
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| 13:29:57 | LTjake | using rockbox nightly from 12/15 (w/ cpu freq patch) |
| 13:30:18 | petur | hmmm don't know the keymapping of ipods |
| 13:30:24 | amiconn | That's a build before the vkeyboard button change |
| 13:30:41 | amiconn | Then you need to accept with LongSelect |
| 13:30:58 | theprodukkt | hey, wouldnt a rss feed for the cvs changes be a nice feature? |
| 13:31:16 | LTjake | amiconn: ah-ha! that did it. |
| 13:31:33 | amiconn | If you update to current build, then it's Play |
| 13:31:35 | LTjake | amiconn: holding the middle button for just over 1 second seemed to save things. |
| 13:31:43 | LTjake | okay. thanks! |
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| 13:33:13 | LTjake | there's a new build on mikeage.net, so i'll give that a whirl. |
| 13:34:33 | Nico_P | JdGordon: have you seen my latest patch (v3) ? |
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| 13:35:30 | JdGordon | Nico_P: yeah, having trouble connecting my h300 to the comp, so i havnt tried it yet |
| 13:35:33 | JdGordon | but it looks good |
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| 13:36:42 | Nico_P | JdGordon: have you made any progress on yours ? |
| 13:37:13 | JdGordon | nope |
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| 13:37:21 | JdGordon | i got windows installed, so been playgin games instead |
| 13:38:05 | petur | what's the connection? |
| 13:39:04 | JdGordon | well, linux is shit for games... |
| 13:39:47 | XavierGr | I disagree |
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| 13:40:01 | XavierGr | I've found some crazy free games on linux |
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| 14:30:15 | barrywardell | linuxstb: what do you think about the nano recording? could it be like the color/4g and need a gpio bit enabled? |
| 14:32:43 | barrywardell | Bagder: now that we have support for dual booting on the Sansa, do you think we should have a bootloader for download like with the H10? |
| 14:33:16 | barrywardell | or is the one on the build table OK? |
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| 14:37:42 | amiconn | barrywardell: The cvs auto-built bootloaders aren't available for download |
| 14:38:28 | barrywardell | ah yes. got mixed up there for a second |
| 14:38:45 | amiconn | This is a safety feature, preventing users from downloading potentially non-working bootloaders |
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| 14:39:58 | amiconn | iPod and X5 are relatively brick-proof even when installing resp. flashing a non-working bootloader, but on other targets a non-working bootloader can be dangerous |
| 14:40:28 | amiconn | ...namely iriver H1x0 and H300 |
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| 14:42:26 | barrywardell | non-working on Sansa is relatively safe, although I have heard of at least one case of bricking |
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| 15:07:29 | Gnelik | Grr can't find pucman.zip |
| 15:07:52 | hcs | it's dead simple with google |
| 15:08:13 | Gnelik | No result |
| 15:08:30 | Gnelik | I have thought that google cut's results |
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| 15:09:14 | hcs | for one thing, it is puckman.zip |
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| 15:20:08 | JagMan | does anyone have some dencrypted firmware for the h10 20gig so i can use it in the double bootloader |
| 15:20:56 | JagMan | barrywardell: are you there? |
| 15:21:11 | barrywardell | yes, i'm here |
| 15:21:39 | JagMan | i have a quick question a bout your progress on the h10 buld |
| 15:21:54 | barrywardell | ask away? |
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| 15:23:19 | Bagder | barrywardell: I think we should provide a sansa bootloader for download |
| 15:23:20 | JagMan | how hard was it to get the firmware going and when is the radio projected to comealong |
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| 15:23:48 | barrywardell | Bagder: agreed. I'll email you my one that definitely works |
| 15:24:01 | Bagder | great |
| 15:24:54 | barrywardell | JagMan: a lot of the work was done already for the iPods, so it was probably easier than most ports |
| 15:25:22 | barrywardell | radio shouldn't be all that difficult |
| 15:26:08 | barrywardell | probably a bit easier now that i've done stuff with recording |
| 15:26:19 | JagMan | three more and i am done 1. how hard would it be to get rockboy going |
| 15:26:25 | barrywardell | i can't predict how long it will be |
| 15:27:00 | JagMan | 2. what h10 do ya have 5(mtp/ums)/6/20 gb |
| 15:27:20 | barrywardell | 1. the problem with rockboy is just the screen size. the H10 lcd is smaller than the gameboy's so we need to either scale it down, or cut off a few pixels from the top and bottom |
| 15:27:27 | barrywardell | 2. 20GB MTP |
| 15:27:57 | JagMan | 3. and do ya have a dencrypted version of the 20 gigsfirmware so i can finaly use your gloryus dual boot loaderr |
| 15:28:08 | JagMan | evil mac ibook |
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| 15:28:57 | JagMan | hard to type with it |
| 15:29:39 | barrywardell | JagMan: check your pm |
| 15:29:58 | JagMan | i cant it closed on me |
| 15:30:26 | JagMan | it wont let me speek |
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| 15:31:31 | JagMan | i have no problem telling you out here but is it ok to |
| 15:32:24 | barrywardell | ok, give me your email address, but be warned that this channel is logged so your address will be on the rockbox site. |
| 15:32:46 | JagMan | fine with me... i just be in rockboxes history |
| 15:32:57 | JagMan | jagman0@hotmail.com |
| 15:34:03 | JagMan | and if it would help during x-mas i hope to get a500 gig hard drive that i can use to host dencrypted firmare versions so people can be lazy |
| 15:37:16 | barrywardell | hopefully we will eventually just be able to use encrypted firmwares |
| 15:37:40 | Bagder | yeah |
| 15:37:58 | Bagder | it'd be nicer to use the originals unmodified |
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| 15:39:11 | dan_a | It will make upgrading to a newer OF easier as well |
| 15:39:20 | JagMan | yup |
| 15:39:28 | JagMan | but for the time being |
| 15:39:48 | Bagder | and it is "just" a matter of storing the key and adding TEA decryption code |
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| 15:39:56 | JagMan | unless thats gona happen in thenext few days |
| 15:39:57 | * | dan_a spots a cheap 6Gb H10 on eBay |
| 15:40:25 | barrywardell | Bagder: bootloader sent |
| 15:40:32 | Bagder | got it |
| 15:41:36 | barrywardell | dan_a: oooh |
| 15:42:54 | dan_a | In fact, there's quite a few. That makes me suspicious. |
| 15:42:58 | JagMan | barrywardell: send it i have to move |
| 15:43:02 | JagMan | cya |
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| 15:46:17 | ctaylorr | hi. I was wondering if I could get write access to the wiki. I noticed that the keybindings for the simulator are a bit out of date, and wouldn't mind updating the list (to at least include x5 bindings). |
| 15:46:36 | LinusN | what is your wikiname? |
| 15:46:48 | ctaylorr | ChrisTaylor |
| 15:46:50 | Bagder | barrywardell: it is now present in http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/ |
| 15:47:23 | barrywardell | great, thanks |
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| 15:47:49 | LinusN | ctaylorr: done |
| 15:48:00 | ctaylorr | LinusN : Thanks. |
| 15:48:09 | LinusN | thank you for contributing |
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| 15:49:27 | ctaylorr | how could one not. rockbox is great. |
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| 16:01:09 | technoboy_ | any sansa e200 developers here? |
| 16:02:56 | Bagder | just ask and see if anyone can answer |
| 16:03:59 | technoboy_ | i'd like to know what the progress is with getting the sound going |
| 16:04:07 | technoboy_ | on the e200 |
| 16:04:17 | Bagder | progress is announced when achieved |
| 16:04:28 | Bagder | its not like anyone is holding such things secret |
| 16:04:48 | technoboy_ | well i'm thinking of doing some work on it |
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| 16:05:08 | technoboy_ | so reverse engineering ppl have been doing would be great info for me |
| 16:06:28 | redondos | [Stupid question alert] How can I go back to the WPS when I've switched to the File browser? (ipod nano) |
| 16:06:53 | redondos | I am really trying here... but nothing seems to work. |
| 16:07:18 | GodEater_Web | is any music actually playing ? |
| 16:07:21 | redondos | Yes. |
| 16:07:35 | GodEater_Web | and have you read the manual ? |
| 16:07:38 | redondos | I know thw WPS doesn't exist when music is nto playing. |
| 16:07:48 | redondos | Yes. I have and I am right now. |
| 16:08:24 | redondos | Oh... |
| 16:08:32 | redondos | "play" does the trick. |
| 16:08:45 | redondos | See, I alerted about the stupidity of my question. |
| 16:08:46 | redondos | Thanks. |
| 16:08:49 | lowlight | play goes to the while "playing" screen |
| 16:09:11 | dan_a | technoboy_: The guy doing the reverse engineering says that he thinks that the codec is an AS3515 - but we haven't got hold of a datasheet for it yet. |
| 16:09:18 | redondos | Yes, thank you very much lowlight. |
| 16:10:09 | dan_a | technoboy_: A lot of the reverse engineering info can be found at http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html |
| 16:10:22 | technoboy_ | thanks i'll check that out |
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| 16:11:42 | PaulJam | lowlight: but some people expect play to "play" the selected file, so it is not _that_ logical. it took me a while to get used to this behaviour of rockbox. |
| 16:12:19 | GodEater_Web | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus <−− needs updating with info on the 30GB 5.5G |
| 16:16:51 | lowlight | PaulJam: I suppose...either way it would take you to the wps |
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| 16:33:13 | dan_a | barrywardell: I've had a look at FS #6455, and I think it would probably be a good idea if all the register #defines were relative to the base address - that will make porting easier if we get any i.MX31 targets |
| 16:33:16 | GodEater_Web | linuxstb: are there some words somewhere on how to build / convert loader2 into a .ipod format file for use with the new ipodpatcher ? |
| 16:33:53 | dan_a | barrywardell: Oops, I should have said that *before* you committed it! |
| 16:33:57 | barrywardell | dan_a: yes, you're probably right. |
| 16:33:59 | barrywardell | haha, yes |
| 16:34:05 | barrywardell | 2 minutes too late |
| 16:34:11 | barrywardell | it can easily be changed though |
| 16:34:42 | netmasta10bt | dan_a: ams wants an nda for the as3515 ds :-/ |
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| 16:37:30 | dan_a | netmasta10bt: I guessed that they would, otherwise it would have been on their website. Did you tell them that you wanted it to write an open source driver? |
| 16:37:52 | netmasta10bt | no |
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| 16:38:06 | LinusN | funny, they haven't even replied to my request |
| 16:38:20 | Bagder | not to mine either, after I got a phone call |
| 16:38:35 | netmasta10bt | they asked if I would sign and they would send the form if so |
| 16:38:44 | LinusN | i didn't even get a call, only total silence |
| 16:38:55 | Bagder | LinusN: I didn't get any reaction either until I mailed them |
| 16:39:08 | LinusN | what is it with those people? do they want to sell chips or not? |
| 16:39:32 | Bagder | "just wanted to make sure it wasn't for a hobby project" the guy told me |
| 16:39:44 | dan_a | I might ring their UK sales office while I'm off work over Christmas and see if they can help |
| 16:39:49 | netmasta10bt | :) −− i sent from my work email adress −− which is in the cellular comp. |
| 16:40:17 | LinusN | i can't see what harm it would cause to let people know how to use their components |
| 16:41:02 | LinusN | my guess it that they lose sales because of this |
| 16:41:24 | dan_a | Maybe it's part of their agreement with PortalPlayer? Not that that makes much sense to me either... |
| 16:41:29 | LinusN | you just check out another manufacturer that treats their potential customers better |
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| 16:44:37 | barrywardell | dan_a: do you think the usb driver should be separated from the pp code completely? |
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| 16:45:05 | Margot | hey |
| 16:47:02 | Margot | is here any firmware coding geek around? |
| 16:47:29 | barrywardell | which targets have properly working USB? |
| 16:47:32 | dan_a | barrywardell: Ideally, yes - we *know* that other chips have the same USB in |
| 16:47:56 | dan_a | Margot: Some. Ask your question, anyone who can answer will! |
| 16:48:51 | Margot | well |
| 16:48:55 | barrywardell | dan_a: true |
| 16:49:02 | Margot | the problem is that i don`t have any exact question |
| 16:49:17 | Margot | but i wanted to start making myself a firmware for electronic devices |
| 16:49:25 | Margot | and i need a guide of what to start |
| 16:49:27 | barrywardell | I'll aim for that if I ever figure out how to write some USB code |
| 16:49:30 | thegeek | hehehe |
| 16:50:08 | Margot | any advices? |
| 16:50:34 | Margot | what knownledge should i gain? |
| 16:50:36 | dan_a | barrywardell: I think for now it should be safe enough just to mark any references to the PP-specific registers as such. |
| 16:51:46 | barrywardell | i don't know if there is anything PP-specific apart from the base address |
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| 16:52:25 | dan_a | barrywardell: Any 0x7000XXXX or 0x6000XXXX addresses are, AFAIK |
| 16:52:35 | JagMan | Hey berry you still there |
| 16:52:58 | JagMan | Barrywendell: are you here |
| 16:53:14 | barrywardell | dan_a: ah, yes. forgot about that |
| 16:53:18 | Gnelik | Wow! 195% in zxbox |
| 16:53:18 | barrywardell | JagMan: yes |
| 16:53:19 | Gnelik | :) |
| 16:53:34 | barrywardell | JagMan: I emailed you |
| 16:53:44 | JagMan | i cant get to my account... is there a nother way to get a copy |
| 16:54:27 | JagMan | or do i have to w8 untill i get home |
| 16:55:03 | JagMan | and i am on pc now so |
| 16:55:32 | barrywardell | you can just download a compiled version of mi4code and decrypt yourself. it's very easy. |
| 16:56:12 | JagMan | ill try that |
| 16:56:17 | JagMan | hope it works |
| 16:57:55 | dan_a | Hmmm... searching for AS3515 throws up a result on the Freescale site - I wonder if they have it embedded into any of their processors in the same way as the USB is |
| 16:58:34 | barrywardell | that would be helpful |
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| 16:59:34 | dan_a | Helpful, although I'm not holding out too much hope! |
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| 17:04:10 | dairy_milk | Complete noob here but is this datasheet for as3515 any good? http://www.datasheetarchive.com/datasheet.php?article=3881345 |
| 17:06:00 | LinusN | no, not really, it's only a product brief |
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| 17:06:43 | JagMan | jackpot |
| 17:06:46 | JagMan | it worked |
| 17:06:54 | JagMan | now to test it |
| 17:07:03 | JagMan | cya in 2 min |
| 17:07:06 | JagMan | w8 |
| 17:07:08 | Nico_P | LinusN, Bagder: how do you feel about cuesheet support ? Am I wasting my time integrating it in the core ? |
| 17:07:16 | JagMan | how do ya acess the of |
| 17:07:23 | JagMan | what button |
| 17:07:24 | LinusN | no, i don't think you're wasting time |
| 17:07:25 | barrywardell | hold left on boot |
| 17:07:33 | JagMan | ty |
| 17:07:35 | JagMan | cya |
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| 17:07:58 | Nico_P | LinusN: cool.. I was afraid you'd say it's a feature that shouldn't be in the core |
| 17:08:37 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 17:08:51 | LinusN | i want cuesheet support, especially if it can be extended to support other multi-chapter container formats |
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| 17:09:30 | Nico_P | LinusN: the way I did it, I'm pretty confident it can be extended quite easily... have you had a look at the patch ? |
| 17:09:40 | LinusN | nope, sorry |
| 17:09:58 | Nico_P | well, when you have time, it's on the tracker ;) |
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| 17:11:31 | JagMan | three things: one it was ez, 2 Barrywardell you are a god of programing, and 3 tell paulposition that the 20 bl hese hosting works |
| 17:11:34 | JagMan | cya |
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| 17:14:37 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: I think it should be in the core as well but nothing added to playback.c to support it. I'm really looking to remove awareness of things like that from the engine itself. I think playlists should just be generalized into something that handles all the audio programs that are run out (not sure show to put it). |
| 17:15:15 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: did you look at the patch ? i don't add much to playback.c |
| 17:16:40 | Nico_P | actually I added 4 lines to it ;) |
| 17:18:20 | jhMikeS | yes, looking now. somehow it might be better as a feature of playlists since they're really that. I'd like playback.c to just be a dumb "here's some files you have to play, play them" thing. No awareness of directories or playlists or anything higher level. A clean heirarchy UI->playlist (any type)->audio->pcm buffer->pcm driver. |
| 17:19:32 | Nico_P | in the code I try to consider a cuesheet like a link to an audio file, with additional information about it |
| 17:20:09 | jhMikeS | Though I don't object to a registered callback that hands important audio events to anyone registered. Just not to be hardcoded to another module. |
| 17:21:11 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: have you discussed all this with lostlogic ? he was the one reworking the playback engine some time ago, then kinda disappeared... |
| 17:22:27 | Nico_P | ... or at least stopped working on the engine |
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| 17:22:49 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: no, haven't discussed it. I've been told about it being a third attempt, but don't care to just attempt it. I don't intend features left out, not even on a prototype. |
| 17:23:21 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: so you're currently working on it, is that what you mean ? |
| 17:23:25 | jhMikeS | yes |
| 17:23:37 | Nico_P | that's good to hear :) |
| 17:24:31 | jhMikeS | It really needs simpifying and should be doable. The WPS will call through playlist APIs, playlist will work with the audio system. Any higher level part of the stack can be left out and the rest used independently. |
| 17:25:19 | jhMikeS | So that probably means some work on playlist.c for the most part. The WPS was easy to redirect. |
| 17:26:04 | Margot | f~jhMikeS: may i speak with u in p.m ? |
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| 17:26:06 | jhMikeS | playlist.c and playback.c more accurately. don't know what it means for mpeg.c yet |
| 17:26:13 | jhMikeS | Margot: sure |
| 17:26:20 | lowlight | barrywardell, dan_a: here's some usb code from the m:robe bootloader (don't know what it does) |
| 17:26:30 | lowlight | ^ http://pastebin.ca/286344 |
| 17:26:32 | Margot | p.m me then :) coz i didn`t registered nick yet |
| 17:26:44 | Margot | if u don`t mind :) |
| 17:27:47 | jhMikeS | Margot: I just did. see it? |
| 17:28:11 | Margot | ya |
| 17:28:22 | barrywardell | lowlight: great. did you base the address comments off of usb-target.h? |
| 17:28:27 | Margot | Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) |
| 17:28:30 | Margot | :/ |
| 17:29:07 | jhMikeS | hmmm...even if a registered user initiates it? odd |
| 17:29:16 | lowlight | barrywardell: yeah, usb-target.h |
| 17:29:38 | Margot | yeah |
| 17:29:41 | Margot | it is |
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| 17:29:45 | barrywardell | lowlight: ha |
| 17:29:50 | Margot | u`re at any other irc network? |
| 17:29:54 | Margot | like efnet? |
| 17:29:58 | jhMikeS | no |
| 17:29:58 | barrywardell | have you seen the freescale document describing the hardware? |
| 17:30:22 | Margot | could u join ? linknet or efnet |
| 17:30:33 | Margot | coz here we ain`t gonna speak |
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| 17:30:38 | Margot | except the main channel |
| 17:30:50 | jhMikeS | doesn't registering here take like 2 seconds? |
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| 17:31:58 | jhMikeS | one minute... |
| 17:32:38 | lowlight | barrywardell: no...it's probably beyond my abilities |
| 17:32:55 | * | lowlight is a chemical/materials engineer |
| 17:34:14 | markun | Just came back from HCl's funeral. I wished his family strength, also from the rockbox team. |
| 17:34:19 | jhMikeS | can't seem to resolve efnet host names |
| 17:35:28 | Margot | it starts to be innoying |
| 17:35:36 | markun | His father gave a very nice speech and also talked about rockbox and would like to thank the people who wrote him from all over the world. |
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| 17:36:28 | jhMikeS | got one |
| 17:37:09 | jhMikeS | Margot: any particular efnet channel? |
| 17:37:13 | Margot | no |
| 17:37:22 | Margot | just p.m me |
| 17:37:27 | Margot | with same nick i have |
| 17:37:30 | Margot | now |
| 17:37:46 | Nico_P | Margot: are you french ? |
| 17:37:55 | Margot | not really |
| 17:37:57 | Margot | that`s just bnc |
| 17:37:58 | Margot | :D |
| 17:38:11 | Nico_P | "bnc" ? |
| 17:38:18 | Margot | ah |
| 17:38:57 | jhMikeS | crap, forgot how to do that |
| 17:39:26 | Margot | http://www.psybnc.at/ |
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| 17:40:12 | Nico_P | ok |
| 17:40:25 | Nico_P | because Margot is a french name |
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| 17:48:11 | Margot | maybe |
| 17:48:18 | Margot | i didn`t thought of it |
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| 18:03:22 | dan_a | lowlight: That looks like some kind of initialisation routine, from what I've seen of the data sheet so far |
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| 18:20:51 | barrywardell | lowlight: does this look like reasonable pseudo code for that pastebin http://pastebin.ca/286412? |
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| 18:35:20 | DerPhil | hi. is there a crack or something to unlock the volume of rockbox?? |
| 18:35:45 | thegeek | there is no volume limitation |
| 18:35:52 | DerPhil | 6 dB? |
| 18:36:45 | thegeek | I'm not sure, but I think equalizer might have something to do with that |
| 18:37:54 | DerPhil | hm lets have a look |
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| 18:39:31 | DerPhil | i dont think so |
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| 18:47:25 | lowlight | barrywardell: looking over it... |
| 18:48:49 | lowlight | barrywardell: should the first line check if bit 0 is 0? UOG_ENDPTSETUPSTAT << 31 gives bit 0? |
| 18:49:19 | Nico_P | i've just made a little patch to fix the display of A-B repeat markers whith progressbars that don't use the full screen width |
| 18:49:42 | Nico_P | is someone here to commit it or should i post it to the tracker |
| 18:49:43 | Nico_P | ? |
| 18:49:55 | lowlight | barrywardell: and line 3 is wrong "UOG_ENDPTSETUPSTAT = UOG_ENDPTCOMPLETE" (my comment was wrong) |
| 18:50:33 | hcs | if I submitted a patch to make the confirmation screen on ipods say "play = yes" instead of "select = yes"... would it get in, or is there a conscious decision to keep this confused? |
| 18:51:06 | lowlight | barrywardell: that part was LDR r3, [r2,#0x2C]; STR r3, [r2,#0x2C] which seems to do nothing |
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| 18:58:25 | barrywardell | lowlight: oops, yes. replace bit i by bit (31-i) everywhere and it should be ok |
| 18:58:41 | lowlight | barrywardell: the logic seems ok except for the bit checks and I don't know about those 3 load then store to the same location |
| 18:59:09 | barrywardell | it could be that it just has to read from that address to make the hardware do something |
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| 19:06:20 | lowlight | barrywardell: more usb stuff...not too interesting...stack setup maybe? http://pastebin.ca/286463 |
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| 20:28:06 | natemic | can anyone give me some help? |
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| 20:29:07 | natemic | ive got a 4th gen ipod that i converted a while back to rockbox, but havent used it in a while, i get it back out and all the stuff is in order on the drive (if i plug it in i can see all my flac music on the rockbox folders) but for some reason i cannot get it to boot with the rockbox interface |
| 20:29:16 | natemic | it wont respond to me hard resetting it, it seems |
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| 20:49:48 | natemic | anyone out there? |
| 20:50:03 | * | hcs nods, I can hear you |
| 20:50:14 | * | ctaylorr as well. |
| 20:50:19 | natemic | ha, ive got a quick question for anyone really |
| 20:50:20 | hcs | I have no answer to your problem, though |
| 20:50:46 | natemic | is there a way to make my 4th gen ipod not capable of booting with the ipod interface |
| 20:51:25 | natemic | i hate apple so much |
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| 20:51:40 | ctaylorr | there are many ways. but most would prevent rockbox from booting as well. |
| 20:51:55 | hcs | hm, never heard that one... you can build a custom bootloader without that functionality |
| 20:52:00 | natemic | not quite what i was hoping for, haha |
| 20:52:20 | hcs | disk mode is independent, though |
| 20:52:30 | natemic | is there any other keys that i can press or hold while it is rebooting to make it boot rockbox |
| 20:52:53 | natemic | every once in a while i can get the ipod to reset then the little apple comes up and i cant get it to boot back with rockbox |
| 20:53:12 | hcs | the little apple is a lower level bios than we deal with |
| 20:53:31 | natemic | ? |
| 20:54:39 | hcs | there will always (unless someone feels brave about rewriting it) be that bit of code in flashram (or whatever the ipod has) that loads the firmware from the hard drive |
| 20:55:01 | natemic | i understand now |
| 20:55:15 | natemic | damn, and i have to drive 18hrs tonight now without music, lol |
| 20:55:18 | hcs | when rockbox won't boot, setting the hold switch on while it boots might help |
| 20:55:27 | hcs | it'll reset the settings, in case that was the issue |
| 20:55:28 | natemic | i will try that right now |
| 20:56:31 | natemic | unsuccessful, damn |
| 20:56:57 | hcs | what does happen? it tells you it can't load and proceeds into the apple firmware? |
| 20:57:46 | natemic | im thinking about starting from scratch, what happens is that i cant even get the rockbox bootloader to start up |
| 20:58:09 | natemic | yet when i connect it to my pc all the files are there in the proper places and it worked a few months ago which is slightly strange |
| 20:58:24 | hcs | oh, have you updated the ipod with iTunes since? |
| 20:58:33 | natemic | no |
| 20:58:44 | hcs | then I have no idea |
| 20:58:46 | natemic | i literally havent touched it, it was in a drawer for a month |
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| 22:55:17 | relaxed | Why does the rockbox bootloader sometimes load apple's firmware? Anyway to stop this? |
| 22:55:31 | relaxed | 5.5gen 30gig ipod |
| 22:56:09 | ThePhil | it should only start the apple firmware when you have lock switched on |
| 22:56:20 | ThePhil | oh no sry, when you have "HOLD" on |
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| 22:57:10 | relaxed | ThePhil: Ok, thanks for the info. I don't recall that ever happening with my nano. |
| 22:58:03 | PaulPosition | relaxed - Unless I'm mistaken, it used to be the press of some button, like select or menu, during power-on. It's been moved, I think, to the hold switch a few days ago. |
| 22:59:20 | relaxed | Is there anything I can do to stop this from ever happening? |
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| 23:16:39 | drumstar07 | hey guys |
| 23:16:48 | drumstar07 | can some one help me with rockbox |
| 23:17:24 | ctaylorr | please go ahead and ask your question. someone will answer if they can help. |
| 23:17:46 | drumstar07 | k well i have rockbox installed on my ipod video.. it works its just that doom |
| 23:17:56 | drumstar07 | doesnt work it says its missing base wad |
| 23:18:13 | drumstar07 | and my paint isnt working ether |
| 23:19:14 | markun | drumstar07: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
| 23:19:34 | drumstar07 | i did all that stuff |
| 23:19:46 | drumstar07 | when i open the games folder nothin shows up |
| 23:20:58 | markun | drumstar07: so you installed 2 wad files? |
| 23:21:20 | markun | rockdoom.wad + one of the others? |
| 23:21:34 | drumstar07 | i think.. are u just supposed to put them in a games folder? |
| 23:21:37 | drumstar07 | on the ipod |
| 23:21:41 | markun | yes |
| 23:21:47 | drumstar07 | then yes i did |
| 23:21:50 | markun | /games/doom/ |
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| 23:21:56 | drumstar07 | yep |
| 23:22:45 | markun | so which files do you have in games/doom/ ? |
| 23:23:35 | drumstar07 | rockdoom.wad |
| 23:23:42 | markun | and? |
| 23:23:51 | drumstar07 | and the other one it said to download |
| 23:23:59 | drumstar07 | doom1.wad |
| 23:24:04 | markun | ok, then I don't know |
| 23:24:18 | drumstar07 | its cool thanks for trying thou |
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| 23:24:59 | drumstar07 | it werid thou cause i open the games folder then doom then nothin shows up |
| 23:25:19 | drumstar07 | i used the rockbox x installer.. is there anything wrong with that |
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| 23:26:55 | markun | drumstar07: rockbox only shows supported files (mostly audio) by default |
| 23:27:08 | markun | somewhere in the display settings you can change that (file view) |
| 23:27:32 | drumstar07 | k |
| 23:28:03 | drumstar07 | yay!! i got it to work.. so now how do u play it? its just showing someone else playin it |
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| 23:34:40 | _ke | does anybody of you uses rockbox AND ipodlinux? |
| 23:35:51 | drumstar07 | how do start a game of doom on rockbox |
| 23:35:57 | drumstar07 | what button do u push |
| 23:39:03 | ctaylorr | Hi. Is there any commonality among forum, flyspray and wiki ids? |
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| 23:55:18 | BetaCookies | How do I make a theme default? |
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| 23:57:16 | ctaylorr | If it's in the .rockbox directory, the setting should remain across reboots. |
| 23:57:25 | BetaCookies | well it doesnt :| |
| 23:58:28 | PaulPosition | Betacookies - I've heard of some themes/builds not sticking through the first reboot and needing to be set a second time.. Didn't investigate though... |
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