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#rockbox log for 2006-12-23

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10:24:09amiconnI'd say one step after the other, let's see how much we can cut down on bootbox
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10:24:26amiconnAh, logbot is there, so the server must be up :)
10:24:43*scorche hugs logbot
10:24:45[IDC]DragonI can only really cut down if I split
10:25:24[IDC]Dragonwww is back, yes
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10:26:21Topic"Merry Christmas to all! (even those who don't celebrate)" by scorche (n=scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche)
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10:28:17[IDC]Dragonnow I got flash/bootbox
10:28:33[IDC]Dragonit compiles
10:30:33amiconnI doubt that you will get below 8KB, or even near it
10:32:46[IDC]Dragonme too, but it's nice to have a challenge
10:33:13[IDC]Dragonucl compressed, that is
10:33:37[IDC]Dragonso write code that compresses well ;-)
10:36:13[IDC]Dragonthe bootloader alone is >2K
10:37:31[IDC]Dragonthe builtin minimon is a fair share of it
10:37:41amiconnBtw, out of our 3 target architectures, SH1 is the one with the most compact binary code
10:37:52amiconn(except in rare cases)
10:38:08[IDC]Dragondo you use thumb code for arm?
10:38:16amiconnColdfire is usually 5..10% larger, and arm is way larger
10:38:51[IDC]Dragonthat helps a lot, if needed
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10:42:56[IDC]Dragonwhat CPU dead the iFP have?
10:43:14[IDC]Dragon(funny typo)
10:43:47amiconnRecv1 bootbox is 31KB code, 5KB read-only data and 2.5KB iram content (ex. ibss)
10:44:10amiconniFP is arm as well
10:44:15amiconnPNX0101 iirc
10:44:33[IDC]Dragonso tomal should look for thumb
10:45:17B4gderok, server is up again
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10:45:43LloreanWe saw logbot come back.
10:46:07amiconnB4gder: Do you know the cause of the crash?
10:46:27B4gderno, the screen was all black
10:46:45B4gderthe reset button wasn't enough...
10:46:52B4gderhad to pull the plug and reinsert it
10:46:55amiconn[IDC]Dragon: The biggest problem with arm is handling the long call issue, or rather, teach gcc to correctly handle it
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10:47:14amiconnCurrently, we're compiling with -ffunction-sections to make it work properly
10:47:27B4gdercurrently the server logs "Intel ISA PCIC probe: not found." like crazy
10:47:32amiconnThat wastes some extra space due to section alignment
10:47:34B4gderit doesn't look good
10:47:59amiconn(and makes all calls long calls)
10:49:52[IDC]Dragoncu u later
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10:51:51Jeff3B4gder, that sucks
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10:53:38B4gderanyway, I think all services are back up, I'll leave it like this now and go celebrate xmas with the family now. see ya around
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11:03:30pixelmamarkun: are you around?
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11:40:14JdGordonre: topic..your 2 days early
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11:52:49scorche<B4gder> anyway, I think all services are back up, I'll leave it like this now and go celebrate xmas with the family now. see ya around
11:53:01scorche@ JdGordon
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12:52:24markunpixelma: I am now
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13:07:34fleytinHi and merry christmas to you all!
13:08:06fleytin Has anyone successfuly played midi fliles on iaudio x5?
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13:31:10amiconnfleytin: You'll need a patchset that's small enough to fit in the X5's RAM
13:31:33amiconn(which is only 16MB compared to the 32MB of the irivers where the midiplayer plugin was developed on)
13:33:36fleytinamiconn: Thank you.
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13:35:57fleytinamiconn: Any idea where can I get a smaller patchset?
13:36:02*nls_web guesses we'll see 1k open tasks inthe tracker befor 2007 :-)
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13:37:25Jeff2I turned my ipod into a arm disassembler
13:38:54*amiconn wonders how many Jeffs we'll see ;)
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13:43:09Jeff2amiconn, many more if my connection dies again
13:44:21markunJeff2: you wrote a disassembler plugin?
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13:44:43Jeff2yeah I hacked armemu disassembler into ipodloader2
13:45:07Jeff2so I could disassemble the damn flash rom (no way to get it out of my ipod so I'm gonna debug it WITH the ipod itself ) :)
13:46:25amiconnJeff2: If I had a 5.5th gen, I would try to take rockbox and dump the rom via audio
13:47:29Jeff2using the piezo or the actual audio port?
13:47:53Jeff2I could probably dump it using the piezo method right now
13:48:18Jeff2though my DAC skills are a bit lax
13:48:39amiconnActual audio
13:48:54amiconnMore reliable, faster and easier
13:50:04Jeff2I would need to study that code a bit more
13:50:18Jeff2so far I'm just hacking the hell out of ipodloader2
13:50:27Jeff2it actually has a lot of functionality
13:50:40amiconnRockbox has working pcm output, and output via biphase code should be dead simple
13:50:57amiconnDumping will take a while, but I don't think this is a problem
13:51:26Jeff2good points
13:53:57Jeff2I will definately have to try that method tomorrow
13:54:38amiconnHeh, I'm almost tempted to try that method for fun on my targets
13:57:27Jeff2I was able to dump some specific portions of the rom to the screen ... I then added the disassembler code and attached the keyboard code to it...
13:57:39Jeff2it's kind of funny what I've came up with
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13:58:05*amiconn has no idea how loader2 works
13:58:46amiconnI only know a few bits & pieces of ipl - the pieces I borrrowed when making my mini G2 work with rockbox
13:59:19amiconnImho ipl unnecessarily complicates things (and wastes resources) with their "single binary runs everywhere" philosoophy
14:00:16Jeff2the interesting thing is... all the architecture related code found in linux is also in the boot loader
14:00:40Jeff2one hell of a beefed up bootloader if you ask me
14:01:22Jeff2I've only looked at the rockbox code a little bit so far, but plan to really dive in tomrrow
14:03:22nls_webohh, SVN is coming! :-)
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14:05:24Jeff2found some biphase code
14:05:26Jeff2:) :)
14:08:10amiconnbiphase code... the method of the old home computers which saved to cassette tapes... :)
14:08:23Jeff2hrm interesting
14:08:49Jeff2upon reset of the ipod the PC is set to 0x0 which is the flash rom
14:09:18Jeff2this happens to be a jump table of vectors
14:09:28Jeff2so then it jumps again to offset 0x8000
14:09:42Jeff2it's weird how that isn't posted anywhere
14:09:56amiconnARM has the vector table at address 0, fixed
14:10:17amiconnAnd the flash rom is mapped there at boot time
14:10:49amiconnRockbox (and ipl too afaik) remaps the rom to address 0 in order to be able to its own vector table
14:10:57amiconn*to use
14:11:15Jeff2that's the part I'm confused about now
14:11:24Jeff2[root@localhost armemu]# ./armemu -D ./smallflash.bin
14:11:24Jeff2 0: ea001ffe b 00008000
14:12:01Jeff2oh wait
14:12:35Jeff2I'm confusing myself
14:12:53amiconnAnd I mean the RAM, grr
14:15:09Jeff2the other vectors are pointed to locations in iram
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14:35:16FebsSo, I used my iPod video to record last night.
14:35:24FebsIt worked. Sort of.
14:36:21FebsThe recorded signal is barely audible above the noise floor, but it is there.
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14:44:50grentisis there someone who can help me with julius build?
14:45:14grentisbecause I can found only old jbuild (30 november)
14:45:30grentisbut it doesn't work with last rockbox version
14:45:56grentis(or better...I receive always a codecs error playing music - simple mp3)
14:47:01Jeff2Febs, record using the headphone port?
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14:47:37FebsNo, the ipod video doesn't have that capability. I was using the line-in via a dock connector.
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14:49:33FebsDoes anyone have any sense of what it would take to implement the gain control on ipods?
14:50:01Jeff2no idea yet
14:50:04Jeff2just start hacking today
14:52:11FebsThe two people who could probably best answer that question are linuxstb and barrywardell. I'll try to catch them later.
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15:28:16barrywardellFebs: shouldn't be all that difficult. have a look at wm8758.c line 240
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16:20:15emacsenhey. I got a new nano to replace my old nano (my new nano is gen 1) but the installation instructions have changed and the new one doesn't work
16:20:28emacsenit says: [INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/sdb3
16:20:28emacsen[INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes
16:20:28emacsen[ERR] Bad boot sector signature
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16:21:35emacsenanyone know what I can do about it?
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16:24:22emacsenoh! It's fscking hfs!
16:24:37emacsenI have to reformat it
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17:55:08andrewyi'm considering buying an iaudio x5l for use with rockbox. can someone tell me what "Power handling 10%" on the status page means? does the LCD not power off when not in use?
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17:56:42PaulJamthe page is propably out of date
18:04:38andrewyah, ok
18:06:13andrewycan anyone with an iaudio confirm that everything works fine? I assume it must because it's listed under the working ports on, but I want to make sure before I buy one
18:09:03PaulJami think from the targets that are still available, the X5 is the one that has the best rockbox support.
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18:10:26pixelmaI don't have an iaudio myself (but two are in the family) - the port is pretty mature and with regards to power consumption it's almost equal to original firmware (so way better than ipods for example)
18:11:22webminds there any progress on ipod power management btw
18:17:15zylchesome I assume
18:17:18SoapThe belief is that the vast majority of the "excessive" power consumption of the PortaPlayer targets is not due to a lack of optimization, but rather due to some piece of hardware turned on and sucking power when it shouldn't. Assuming that analysis is correct, you are unlikely to see incremental improvements in PP power consumption of any sizeable amount, rather a revolutionalry improvement out of the blue.
18:18:18Genre9mp3The same happened with iriver H300 targets, too
18:18:34andrewyi see
18:19:02pixelmathat was about the ipods...
18:20:10Soapsorry, yes webmind , the iPod is a PortaPlayer based machine, thus my prior statement is about the iPods (amongst others)
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18:31:42]RowaN[rockbox on my sansa.. so pretty =]
18:32:46Soap20001 A space odyssey?
18:33:11]RowaN[played by some jap orchestra of gameboys... weird stuff
18:34:54]RowaN[Fan Club Orchestra Japan - 20001: A Space Odyssey (Suite for Gameboy, Synth, and Theramin) [2005/MP3/192]
18:35:01]RowaN[to be precise
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19:00:40jac0bhello all
19:00:51jac0bi am trying to build the sansa port
19:01:43jac0bcan i just download the bleeding edge build and put that on the sansa or do i have to compile
19:02:15dan_ajac0b: I've just put these instructions up:;topicseen#msg61253
19:04:20dan_aSo no, you don't need to compile
19:04:27jac0bthanks dan_a
19:04:35jac0bmerry christmas
19:04:47dan_aYou're welcome. Merry Christmas to you too.
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19:35:59mrAshleyJust curious if there is a money-pot already started towards someone hacking the Sony NW-HD5? Is this something that might be okay to start via your forums?
19:40:58dan_amrAshley: Most of the time money doesn't help with getting a port done. Have you read yet?
19:42:04mrAshleyyeah. i'm afraid i'm not willing to sacrifice my particular unit - and i'm no longer in a country that sells them. I was hoping that there might be enough people like me who would be willing to purchase one for a clever person to break apart to do this 'list' to. :)
19:42:56dan_aAre there any ARM experts around? Maybe preglow? I'm trying playing with thumb code again, and I can get my tests to compile and run, but the resulting code is bigger than the ARM original :(
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19:43:18dan_aWhat sort of code is best helped by being in thumb mode?
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19:43:57dan_amrAshley: First off, is it upgradable?
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19:44:54mrAshleydan_a: a google search yields a sony website that mentions a NW-HD5 firmware upgrade.
19:47:27dan_amrAshley: It would help a lot if you can find out what processor it uses. If it is similar to a machine we already support, it may be relatively easy to do a port for.
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19:51:23mrAshleydan_a: do you have any idea how I might go about finding that? I'm just googling for it, and I'm coming up with nothing.
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19:53:49dan_amrAshley: Google - see if you can find a review that mentions its processor, see if you can find a site with pictures of one which has been taken apart. Possibly try and find a cheap broken one which you can take apart.
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20:08:13karimwas there anywork on usbhost for H300 ?
20:08:50karimI was wondering also if anyone talked about Picture Transfer Protocol for cameras
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20:12:51dan_akarim: AFAIK, there has been no more work than is documented at
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20:13:39VillanovagemCan anyone help my with the installation of RockBox on my 60gb Video iPod?
20:14:07dan_asweetgirl: Hi!
20:14:28VillanovagemI'm having trouble with my installation
20:14:33dan_aVillanovagem: Tell us what problems you are having.
20:14:53VillanovagemI'm using Windows, so i followed the Command Prompt instructions
20:15:00Villanovagemand when i did the ipodpatcher −−scan
20:15:05Villanovagemmy computer found my device
20:15:12Villanovagemhowever, there was not a "number"
20:15:22Villanovagemthe instructions say remember the number it shows
20:15:45Villanovagemthis is what i get
20:15:47VillanovagemC:\rockbox>ipodpatcher −−scan
20:15:59Villanovagem[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
20:16:05Villanovagem[INFO] Ipod found - Video - disk device 1
20:16:05dan_aVillanovagem: I've just had a look at the forum thread...
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20:16:27karimhum the usb on the go port is usb 1.1 or 2.0 ? in fact if it's only 1.1 that's make it barely usable with a lot of pictures on the SD card
20:16:55dan_aVillanovagem: Look carefully at the last line you pasted on here.
20:17:08Villanovagemdo i just need the 1?
20:17:10Villanovagemis that it?
20:17:19dan_aVillanovagem: Yes :)
20:17:37dan_akarim: I *think* that all USBOTG is usb 2.0
20:17:39Villanovagemi'm so sorry, thanks very much
20:17:51dan_aVillanovagem: No problem
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20:18:00Villanovagemi was under the impression it was a multiple digit number, for some odd reason
20:18:05Villanovagemthanks for your help
20:19:40PaulJamon h300 the usbotg port is only 1.1
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20:20:32karimis it possible to plug a card reader in the on the go port of H300 ?
20:21:16muesli__err oui!
20:22:58karimok, so maybe that's not worth the trouble of coding ...
20:23:21muesli__no..since its usb1.0 its useless at all
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20:24:52dan_amrAshley: This might help a bit:
20:26:04mrAshleycheers dan_a. i was nearish some photos... but it was all surrounding the harddisk. :P
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20:26:26dan_amrAshley: And here:
20:29:32karimmuesli__, dan_a said it was usb 2.0
20:29:58karimbut as far as I remebered it was 1.0
20:30:12karimanyway SD card are big enough now
20:30:28karimand screens of cameras are bigger than the H300 screen
20:30:29muesli__its 1.0 for sure as it lays here in front of me
20:30:41dan_akarim: I was wrong
20:30:49muesli__it says usb1.1 host
20:30:49karimdan_a, bwaah !
20:31:00mrAshleydan_a: is an IC7001 a processor?
20:31:20karimtransfering 1 gygabyte woud take 6 minutes
20:31:29Soapuntil SD cards are 60GB, they aren't "big enough" compared to a DAP.
20:31:29karimhem 10 minutes even
20:32:07karimSoap, yes but considering the transfer speed do you think it's worth ?
20:32:22karimwell anyway if anyone manage to code that why not
20:32:22dan_amrAshley: I think so - it looks like it has 2 separate ARM processors. There is some documentation for the chips on the Sony site. If you can find register level documentation, that would help
20:32:27karimthat's still a feature
20:32:34muesli__karim ive heard it needs 15mins for 256mb...
20:32:52muesli__but pls go ahead and prove the opposite ;)
20:33:01Soapkarim: How is it not? When the alternative is to carry 60 gigs of SD cards....
20:33:01karimso that's not worth unless you are in the desert or something
20:33:24mrAshleydan_a: sorry that just went over my head i think. 'register level documentation' ?
20:33:40karimand even in the desert I am sure a H300 battery couldn't handle 1 hour of hard drive rotation to many times
20:33:50Soapsolar charger.
20:34:07dan_amrAshley: It tells you what values to write to what addresses to do certain things.
20:34:09Soapbit overkill, don't you think?
20:34:16karimsmall laptop
20:34:53Soapkarim: when you are carrying 80 pounds of water on your back, and spending hundreds of dollars to get gear which saves ounces, I don't think a laptop is ideal.
20:34:56mrAshleydan_a:... oh.
20:35:06karimSoap, anyway someone got to code this. and I think that probably buying a sdcard to USB adatpter would be less hassle
20:35:16muesli__wot about tranfering/caching 32mb - turn on hdd/write/hdd off -start
20:35:43karimmuesli__, yes it could save
20:36:14mrAshleydan_a: (for clarity that was me really not sure what you've asked for and even more so how to go about getting it)
20:36:15karimisn't there hard drive to sdcard adapter ?
20:36:28karimif you see what I mean
20:36:41karima hard drive with a sdcard format plug
20:36:57karimanyway I am not going to go in the desert soon
20:37:45karimis rockbox lacking of coders this times or are people more busy with doing ports ?
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20:41:56mrAshleydan_a: that pdf you directed me to. it seems to have logic things (paths?) of the chips.. is that what you're looking for?
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20:42:32Soapjust the processor type would be the first thing to know.
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21:03:54linuxstbJeff2: I read earlier that you've been disassembling (I assume) the contents of the flash in the 80GB 5.5g. Have you checked if the flash contents are the same as a 30GB?
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21:12:51mrAshleyMerry Christmas everyone! :-) xx
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21:18:03jac0bI get an error when trying to boot my sansa
21:18:40jac0brockbox error: -1
21:19:02jac0bcan anyone tell me what that means?
21:19:29LloreanIt means that the rockbox.e200 file was not found in the device's root.
21:20:02jac0boh okay
21:20:28jac0bhow do I get it to restart
21:21:26jac0bdo i have to take the battery out?
21:22:55dan_ajac0b: Hold down the power button until it turns off
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21:23:39jac0boh okay I thought I had to hold the center button for it to restart
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21:33:35GodEaterdo I see someone with some arm assembly skills has taken on the problem with the 80G too now ?
21:35:56linuxstbYou appear to have just missed him...
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21:40:01GodEateryeah so I saw
21:40:12GodEaternot much I can do to help him mind you - just offer moral support :)
21:42:02linuxstbSomeone needs to compare a dump of the 30GB's flash with the 80GB. i.e. dump it to disk from the bootloader on a 30GB, link that dump into the bootloader binary, and then do a comparison in the bootloader running on an 80GB.
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21:44:54GodEaterthat doesn't sounds like a fun job
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21:46:55linuxstbIt's not that hard. Just something like write(fd,0,512*1024*1024); will dump the flash to a file. You then need to link it into the bootloader (e.g. convert it into a C char array), and then do a byte-by-byte comparison.
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21:47:40GodEaternot *hard* perhaps - but a lot of work methinks
21:47:44linuxstb(I can't remember if it's 512KB or 1MB though, probably 1MB....)
21:48:07linuxstbWhich part?
21:48:10GodEaterwhat if they turn out to be the same ?
21:48:19GodEaterthe converting to a c char array sounds like a lot of work
21:48:29linuxstbThen we don't need to worry about dumping the 80GB's flash.
21:48:30GodEaterperhaps I'm not thinking about it hard enough
21:49:01GodEaterI still strongly suspect the PIO modes on that disk are buggered
21:49:15GodEaterand someone's going to have to get their hands dirty and work out how to do DMA
21:49:50GodEaterI find it telling that DMA is enabled be default on both the 60G and the 80G
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21:53:09barrywardelldan_a: what is the status of your kernel on cop patch?
21:53:39*linuxstb was just looking at the current cop code as well...
21:54:06linuxstbBut in terms of trying to get rolo to work properly.
21:54:46LloreanAre we still at "threads don't seem to be moving, or are running on both"?
21:54:53*barrywardell wonders how he can tell if the kernel on cop is really working.
21:55:06barrywardellit seems to be working on my h10 but i'm not sure
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21:58:55LloreanSeems to me like it'd be something difficult to test.
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22:00:57Jeff2linuxstb, sorry didn't see your message
22:01:21Jeff2linuxstb, I haven't checked the 30gb image flashrom.bin yet since I haven't been able to find it dumped online yet.
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22:02:56Jeff2I'd be willing to try your comparison method though linuxstb
22:03:25Jeff2interestingly it seems there are 2 vector tables upon bootup in the flashrom... one at 0x0 and one at 0x8000
22:04:39donfedehello, we are trying to apply the recording enhancements patch to the latest CVS ... but are getting a failure on hunk 30 (recording.c)
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22:06:57barrywardelldonfede: which patch are you referring to?
22:08:23Lloreanbarrywardell: There's a patch actually called the "recording enhancements pack"
22:09:13LloreanThere's a build associated with it too, actually the only build I haven't wedged into the unofficial builds section, mostly because overall it seemed to be a test-bed for features aiming at CVS inclusion, rather than an attempt at a parallel user build like most of them are.
22:10:00barrywardellah, right
22:11:09Lloreandonfede: But, your questions regarding the REP should be asked to those who provide/maintain it, so, wherever you got it from.
22:11:23linuxstbJeff2: You'll need to find a volunteer with a 30GB 5.5g with the same firmware version that you are running. There are a few such users around here I think, so maybe one will volunteer to dump their flash.
22:11:31donfedebarrywardell: this patch ... from this forum
22:12:18donfedebasically most of it has been commited, except for a few small things ... (user font, histogram patch, ...)
22:12:53linuxstbbarrywardell: Try creating a thread that's constantly incrementing a variable (in IRAM, to avoid caching problems), and then displaying that in a thread on the main CPU. If possible, avoiding any calls to yield() in both threads.
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22:13:40barrywardelllinuxstb: ok. i'll try that now...
22:16:09barrywardelldonfede: it doesn't look like that failed hunk is a big deal. it's just an empty line!
22:16:30Jeff2linuxstb, right
22:16:45Jeff2linuxstb, Haven't ran into one here yet with a 30gb yet...
22:16:51donfedebarrywardell: we're reviewing the code ourselves right now (still a bit green in that arena) ... thanks for the vote of support :)
22:17:41barrywardelldonfede: there's also a failed hunk in english.lang but that should be fairly easy to fix i think
22:17:55Jeff2anyone got a ipod 5.5G 30gb here? heh
22:18:22bagawkWould it not be good to start hacking away at coding up a DMA mode, even if it is a different problem with the 80gb disk, the efforts I would not think were a waste
22:18:40donfedebarrywardell: for us (redwood and donfede, me) we got ... 1 out of 30 hunks FAILED −− saving rejects to file apps/recorder/recording.c.rej
22:19:04Jeff2bagawk, I do'nt even know where to start when it comes to DMA
22:19:29barrywardellthe one in recording.c is irrelevant, but you'll need to apply the english.lang changes manually
22:19:35Jeff2I was gonna look at the flashrom.bin to see if I could determine how either pio or dma transfers are bing initiated.
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22:21:12GodEaterJeff2, if it's using PIO I'll be thoroughly gobsmacked - I've tried pretty much everything I (and several other people) can think of to make that work - and it just doesn't want to play nice
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22:24:36donfedebarrywardell: we reviewed the recodording.c , and yes, it appears to be completely benign (a missing line) ... we're now looking at english.c
22:25:26barrywardellyou should be able to just add the stuff to english.lang manually at the end
22:26:40donfedebarrywardell: we had success applying the english.c patch (working on a debian sid system) ... it gave us one Hunk #4 succeeded at 10677 with fuzz 1 (offset 218 lines). ... but that "sounds" ok :)
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22:44:57barrywardelldonfede: yes, "sounds" like it would probably fine
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22:47:20Gravedigg154is it always this quiet
22:47:43GodEatershhhh :)
22:47:46LloreanIt's not a discussion room. Usually conversation happens when something specific is being discussed / worked on.
22:48:01LloreanRather, not a conversation room.
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22:51:50donfedebarrywardell: it compiled well , and we're running it now :-D
22:52:07donfededonfede: next week, we'll start work on getting the splitedit patch to work on the iriver 320
22:57:06donfedebarrywardell: ok, game over for tonight. thanks again for your help (from donfede and redwood) :-D
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22:58:01Jeff2GodEater, any suggestions you can lend on the dma stuff? I think I might be in over my head
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23:19:26Bagderhey ho
23:22:25linuxstbOnly for iriver? :)
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23:22:45BagderI've only run the script manually so far, on single targets
23:23:11linuxstbHow long does it take to generate?
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23:23:27Bagderwith my re-use hack, it flies
23:23:52Bagderbut clearly they're pretty much identical
23:23:59Bagdersince the file sizes match
23:24:24Bagderyeah, the voice script now optionally produces mp3 files in a common dir
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23:24:32Bagderand can re-use phrases from there for new runs
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23:24:50linuxstbSo not much work at all then...
23:25:07Bagdernope, the first shot took about 3 minutes on the download server
23:25:17Bagderand subsequent runs take a few seconds
23:27:03Bagderbut I'll admit I haven't listened to them ;-)
23:27:31barrywardelllinuxstb: i tried your suggested experiment. looks like it's updating the counter (assuming I've done it right)
23:27:36linuxstbWhat do you think about removing the date from the filenames in the latest daily builds (for rockbox itself, fonts and now voice)? I tried to link directly to the fonts file from the IpodInstallationBeta page, but obviously couldn't...
23:27:46linuxstb(that was to Bagder)
23:28:02Bagderyeah, I could update a symlink on all new builds
23:28:18linuxstbbarrywardell: That's good. I'm sure the crt0.S rewrite helped improve things.
23:31:35barrywardelllinuxstb: especially since last time i tried the cop patch rockbox had trouble even booting!
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23:38:02barrywardelllinuxstb: it also looks like the thread is only running on the cop :)
23:38:35LloreanSo we may have COP support working to an extent now?
23:39:12barrywardelli think so. i'll post an updated patch for others to test
23:42:27linuxstbWhat will be needed to rolo the H10 original firmware? Is it more complicated than just loading the image to the correct location in RAM and branching to it?
23:43:18barrywardellthat should work. that's all the bootloader does.
23:43:37barrywardell(loads to DRAM_START, then branches there)
23:44:08linuxstbSame as the ipods then. So I'm guessing the COP needs to branch there as well, at the same time...
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23:54:01[IDC]DragonHi Bagder, I have a GPL question
23:54:23[IDC]Dragona while ago I was looking on the Sonos system
23:54:29[IDC]Dragondo you know it?
23:55:18[IDC]Dragona streaming client, a bit like the squeezebox
23:55:36[IDC]Dragonturns out it uses Linux internally
23:55:46[IDC]Dragonbut is a closed system
23:55:53Bagdervery common...
23:56:16[IDC]Dragonis there a way to "force" these guys to open up?
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23:56:38Bagderwell, they're obliged to provide the GPL parts
23:56:57Bagderbut you'll find that they only give you code to the kernel and bootloader etc
23:57:01Bagderstuff you already have
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23:57:18Bagderall the candy are made are proprietary kernel modules
23:57:24Bagderand you won't get the code to those
23:57:46[IDC]Dragonon opened system would be a start
23:58:44[IDC]DragonI've raised the question to their forum:
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