| 00:00:11 | * | amiconn is now even using this setup _and_ the default wps _with_ peakmeters |
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| 00:01:15 | amiconn | Still, no skip (but the peakmeters are lagging quite a bit) |
| 00:01:24 | preglow | i think i had some ideas on how to further improve it |
| 00:01:24 | Nico_P | amiconn: so no more complaints of people saying music skips like hell with the default wps ? |
| 00:01:29 | preglow | but i can't remember them anymore... |
| 00:01:47 | amiconn | Probably due to realtime priority for the audio thread... |
| 00:02:07 | amiconn | Nico_P: I dunno; never experienced massive skipping on my mini G2 |
| 00:02:19 | amiconn | But full eq did skip before the optimised memcpy |
| 00:02:36 | preglow | the slowness of the eq on arm really annoys me... |
| 00:02:53 | amiconn | Hrm, somehow it seems the eq causes distortions (?? not 100% sure) |
| 00:03:14 | preglow | amiconn: what kind? |
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| 00:03:51 | amiconn | Hmm, hard to describe |
| 00:04:09 | preglow | as always, a sample always clears things up easier |
| 00:04:13 | amiconn | The bass is a bit distorted, although I don't have overall positive gain in any band |
| 00:04:36 | preglow | what do you mean by that? you don't have any positive gain? |
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| 00:06:06 | amiconn | I have: precut -4.0 dB, Band 1-5: +4.0/-2.0/-6.0/-3.5/+2.0 dB |
| 00:06:23 | amiconn | Frequencies: 100/310/1000/3150/10000Hz, default Q |
| 00:06:45 | preglow | does the distortion vanish when you use more precut? |
| 00:07:12 | mirak | hi |
| 00:07:12 | preglow | it's not impossible for the eq to distort at those settings, though |
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| 00:07:55 | preglow | the max amplitude in the time domain does not necessarily limit itself to the freq domain one, which is what you specify in the eq settings |
| 00:08:03 | amiconn | Is there some overshoot in the transfer function? |
| 00:08:04 | preglow | it depends on the q setting |
| 00:08:05 | linuxstb_ | mirak: Hi |
| 00:08:19 | preglow | amiconn: not in the transfer function, but in the pulse response |
| 00:08:24 | preglow | amiconn: and yes, that's what i'm talking about |
| 00:08:28 | amiconn | hmm, ok |
| 00:08:34 | preglow | amiconn: the higher the q, the bigger the overshoot |
| 00:08:49 | preglow | amiconn: a q of 0.5 should give you no overshoot whatsoever, the default q has some tiny overshoot |
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| 00:09:33 | webguest95 | I finished doing the bootloader thign and it says it should start rockbox but nothings happening |
| 00:09:57 | jamesshuang | hi everyone, just out of raw curiousity, how hard do you think it would be to implement a truetype font renderer with antialiasing on rockbox? |
| 00:10:09 | jamesshuang | it's probably utterly useless, but it sure would look nifty :-D |
| 00:10:15 | linuxstb_ | webguest95: Are you still in the Apple firmware? |
| 00:10:36 | webguest95 | yeah |
| 00:10:39 | webguest95 | idk why |
| 00:10:47 | preglow | hmm, i forgot that the q value in the eq isn't strictly the same as the usual definition for peaking filters |
| 00:10:50 | preglow | i'll need to fix that one day |
| 00:10:59 | * | preglow adds to his TODO |
| 00:11:36 | webguest95 | ??? |
| 00:11:43 | linuxstb_ | webguest95: When you disconnected your ipod, did it restart? If not, try holding MENU+SELECT for a few seconds. |
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| 00:11:52 | webguest95 | Did that |
| 00:11:55 | amiconn | preglow: Hrrm, forget this. The distortion is in the source material.... |
| 00:12:03 | preglow | \o/ |
| 00:12:09 | preglow | finally something that's not my fault :) |
| 00:12:18 | webguest95 | linux |
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| 00:12:29 | webguest95 | Can you help me to tell me what to type in code?? |
| 00:12:30 | preglow | and in a related matter, distortion in the source material is (regrettably) not very rare anymore :/// |
| 00:12:32 | linuxstb_ | webguest95: Then the bootloader didn't install. Did the ipodpatcher command give you any error messages? |
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| 00:13:00 | scorche | Llorean: having fun in the forums? |
| 00:13:04 | webguest95 | It said something about refusing to look at the dsic |
| 00:13:10 | webguest95 | Can you help me from begginning to end? |
| 00:13:50 | linuxstb_ | webguest95: Do you have a folder at the top-level of your C: drive called "Rockbox", with the files ipodpatcher.exe and bootloader-ipod?????.ipod (???? is your ipod type). |
| 00:13:57 | Alonea | ok, so I need to open up this tex file with something? |
| 00:14:36 | webguest95 | Wheres the top level |
| 00:14:45 | Soap | I like how threads/replies are killed on HydrogenAudio. "TOS#9 Violation" is the only thing left. |
| 00:14:59 | linuxstb_ | At the top... The same place the "Windows" folder is. |
| 00:15:15 | webguest95 | no |
| 00:15:41 | scorche | JdGordon: when talking about archos rombox size, it helps to say which device it is |
| 00:15:46 | webguest95 | all of its on desktop |
| 00:16:15 | JdGordon | scorche: the recorder build.... is that v1? |
| 00:16:42 | scorche | it could be |
| 00:16:52 | JdGordon | thats the one i checked with |
| 00:16:58 | scorche | if you are talking about in configure, it is |
| 00:16:58 | webguest95 | what do i do linux |
| 00:17:04 | JdGordon | ye |
| 00:17:32 | scorche | FM recorder has the largest amount to be chopped off |
| 00:17:46 | JdGordon | ok |
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| 00:17:53 | linuxstb_ | webguest95: Create a new folder called "Rockbox" at the top-level of your C: drive, and put those two files in it. |
| 00:18:01 | pixelma | Alonea: just open it with a decent text editor |
| 00:18:19 | webguest95 | there are 3 files |
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| 00:18:40 | webguest95 | bvn |
| 00:18:41 | webguest95 | nvm |
| 00:18:49 | webguest95 | now what |
| 00:19:37 | webguest95 | I have a Video iPod 30GB if that helps 5G |
| 00:20:11 | linuxstb_ | Open a command prompt, then type "cd \rockbox" (without the quotes) and press enter. |
| 00:20:39 | linuxstb_ | Then "ipodpatcher −−scan" and make a note of the number printed on the last line - it will be something like "disk device 1". |
| 00:21:13 | webguest95 | ok done |
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| 00:21:23 | bluebrother | Alonea, tex files are simple text files. Just use a text editor |
| 00:21:31 | linuxstb_ | What number was it? |
| 00:21:35 | webguest95 | 1 |
| 00:21:50 | linuxstb_ | Now "ipodpatcher 1 -a bootloader-ipodvideo.ipod" |
| 00:21:50 | bluebrother | using one with syntax hightlighting usually helps ;-) |
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| 00:22:31 | webguest95 | ok |
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| 00:23:16 | webguest95 | is it done? |
| 00:23:21 | | Quit SUSaiyan (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 00:23:28 | linuxstb_ | That's it. You've now installed the bootloader. You should now do what section 2.2.2 says in the manual - download the main Rockbox zip file, and the Rockbox fonts zip file and extract the contents directly onto your ipod. |
| 00:23:47 | webguest95 | where in my ipod |
| 00:24:00 | n1s | the root |
| 00:24:21 | linuxstb_ | Have a look in Explorer. Maybe E: |
| 00:24:23 | n1s | directly on the ipod, not in a folder |
| 00:24:45 | webguest95 | How do I do that? |
| 00:24:52 | webguest95 | on the ipod??? |
| 00:25:09 | linuxstb_ | Have you downloaded the zip files? |
| 00:25:20 | webguest95 | ya |
| 00:25:23 | webguest95 | long time ago |
| 00:25:31 | linuxstb_ | If you right-click on them, do you have an "extract to" option? |
| 00:25:45 | webguest95 | yep |
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| 00:25:59 | webguest95 | it has .rockbox and .rockbox.ipod |
| 00:26:04 | linuxstb_ | Then select that, and choose E:\ (assuming your ipod is E:) |
| 00:26:13 | webguest95 | ?? |
| 00:26:17 | webguest95 | Select what |
| 00:26:22 | Phish| | the files |
| 00:26:26 | linuxstb_ | The "extract to" option. |
| 00:26:33 | webguest95 | oh |
| 00:27:01 | webguest95 | this file already exists |
| 00:27:03 | webguest95 | ??? |
| 00:27:08 | webguest95 | Do I overwrite |
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| 00:27:32 | linuxstb_ | Yes. But it looks like you've already done this step then. |
| 00:27:45 | webguest95 | but this one is bigger?!? |
| 00:27:52 | webguest95 | the one i did now is smaller than before |
| 00:28:16 | webguest95 | ok |
| 00:28:18 | webguest95 | now what |
| 00:28:39 | linuxstb_ | Safely disconnect your ipod, and it should start Rockbox. |
| 00:28:47 | webguest95 | Safely disconnect? |
| 00:28:55 | webguest95 | Theres more than one way? |
| 00:29:21 | webguest95 | nvm |
| 00:29:41 | webguest95 | Wow! |
| 00:29:43 | webguest95 | This looks awesome |
| 00:29:59 | Mikachu | you could use scissors |
| 00:30:08 | Mikachu | that would not qualify as safely though |
| 00:30:13 | webguest95 | lol |
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| 00:30:41 | linuxstb_ | It would do if you point the scissors downwards and don't run. |
| 00:31:00 | webguest95 | How do I listen to songs? |
| 00:31:19 | Mikachu | put earphones in your ear, connect to ipod, follow steps in manual |
| 00:31:38 | linuxstb_ | Read the FAQ - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ and then the manual - http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 00:32:12 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox works differently to the Apple firmware, so it's helpful to read the documentation. |
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| 00:33:08 | webguest95 | are my songs gone? |
| 00:33:20 | n1s | no, they are hidden |
| 00:33:22 | linuxstb_ | That's answered in the FAQ. |
| 00:33:22 | webguest95 | And can I put them in with itunes? |
| 00:33:28 | | Join Soap [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) |
| 00:33:29 | linuxstb_ | And so is that... |
| 00:33:35 | webguest95 | =,= |
| 00:33:41 | n1s | look for the database in the manual |
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| 00:33:58 | Alonea | bluebrother: ok, I opened up the gigabeatf.tex and its just a bunch of newcommand stuff. |
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| 00:34:39 | n1s | Alonoea, that's the gigabeat buttons mostly |
| 00:35:34 | n1s | Alonea: what do you want to change? |
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| 00:36:00 | Alonea | n1s: So what file do I open up to edit the manual..I am sooo confused. I think I will just submit something to what I was originally thinking. I am trying to fix the gigabeat manual. Was told to go in that folder.. |
| 00:36:16 | linuxstb_ | All those files are in the gigabeat manual - normally one per chapter. |
| 00:36:25 | linuxstb_ | (well, most of them) |
| 00:37:28 | bluebrother | Alonea, what exactly do you want to change? The platform files change rarely, so in most cases you won't need to change anything there |
| 00:37:29 | n1s | Alonea: all the mauals are built from the same files, the platform file is the one specific for each player, and the other files have different sections included for different players |
| 00:38:27 | bluebrother | example: you describe the buttons for a plugin. So for the gigabeat, you would write something like |
| 00:38:50 | n1s | for example if you want to edit the main menu, open /manual/main_menu/main.tex |
| 00:38:51 | bluebrother | \opt{gigabeatf}{\ButtonDown} |
| 00:39:26 | bluebrother | this will expand to the macro \ButtonDown, which itself is defined in the plaform file, so it prints the correct value |
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| 00:40:02 | bluebrother | if the manual isn't build for the gigabeat this will get replaced by a space (which will get eliminated mostly automatically) |
| 00:41:35 | bluebrother | so you just need to open e.g. plugins/doom.tex and just add the keys like they are already in. |
| 00:42:18 | bluebrother | you can make complete blocks optional. For example, the archos players don't need a bootloader, so this section gets omitted for them |
| 00:45:13 | bluebrother | sorry, got to go now. The ManualHowto and LatexGuidelines wiki pages should explain most basics. Feel free to ask me again tomorrow. |
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| 00:51:17 | Insectoid | Anything on this Eloquence stopping generation of mp3 clips? It stops sometimes 20 files in, some times 350. |
| 00:52:02 | Insectoid | Which is rather bad as I just got a new english.lang with several new things in it and I rather need it to talk. |
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| 00:56:34 | Nico_P | someone want to have a look at my wps tokenizing code ? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4826#comment12428 |
| 00:57:09 | Alonea | n1s: ok, none of that made a word of sense. I am talking about the pdf manual for the gigabeat. it needs a little updating. So I was going to post the changes that should be made since I cant make pdfs...this button stuff..@@ |
| 00:58:06 | Febs___ | Alonea: the pdfs are made automatically. The manual is written in LaTex, and then compiled, generating the PDFs. |
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| 00:58:34 | Phish| | Soap: do you have that info on making a line-in dock connector? |
| 00:58:35 | Alonea | Febs___: Ok, but what file is the manual? |
| 00:58:43 | Febs | It is a number of files. |
| 00:58:49 | Soap | Phish|: what info do you need? |
| 00:59:03 | Soap | i used the pin-out on the ipodlinux wiki |
| 00:59:09 | Phish| | you had said you might do a quick tutorial on making them |
| 00:59:17 | Phish| | ah, i shall look that up |
| 00:59:36 | Soap | yea, I've been busy - it will be at least a week. |
| 00:59:45 | Alonea | Febs: Where would the files be at in the first place? Someone said by chapter at one point, but I dont see such a thing. |
| 00:59:46 | Febs | rockbox.tex is the main file. |
| 00:59:49 | Phish| | ok, well let me see if i can sort it out from the wiki |
| 00:59:52 | Phish| | and save you the trouble |
| 01:00 |
| 01:00:01 | Phish| | i didn't know that info was available when we last talked |
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| 01:00:32 | Febs | That file, in turn, contains instructions to input the other chapters. For example: \input{getting_started/main.tex} |
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| 01:00:56 | Febs | That line puts the file getting_started/main.tex into the manual. |
| 01:01:04 | Soap | Phish|: I forget if line-in is pins 3,4 or if line-out is 3,4. Whichever one is 5,6 - I cut 3,4 and 7,8 to make more room |
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| 01:01:40 | n1s | Alonoea: just writing a list of proposed changes is of course much better than nothing if you do not want to deal with the LaTeX stuff. Got to go to sleep now 'night |
| 01:01:42 | Soap | Phish|: I also put a slim piece of cardboard between the pins when working to prevent solder mistakes from sticking where you don't want them to stick. |
| 01:01:46 | | Part n1s |
| 01:01:55 | Phish| | ah, good idea |
| 01:01:57 | Febs | main.tex, in turn, inputs installation.tex, which is the installation instructions. THAT file inputs various other files which contain specific instructions for installing on various platofrms. |
| 01:01:58 | Alonea | ok, I will just do that n1s. night |
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| 01:02:31 | Febs | If you don't want to deal withe the LaTex, write up whatever you feel should be changed, and submit it to the patch tracker under the category "manual." |
| 01:02:43 | Phish| | yeah, 5 and 6 are line in |
| 01:02:52 | Soap | and make sure you secure the cable in the strain-relief boot, preferably with glue, to prevent twisting forces from breaking your connections. |
| 01:03:57 | Alonea | that was what I was going to originally do, but I wanted to submit a word doc, then someone said do tex and it went downhill from there. Now I see everyone uses linux or something and cannot read word docs...I was just trying to make it easy to read |
| 01:03:57 | Phish| | so then i only need pins 1,5, and 6 |
| 01:04:09 | Llorean | Alonea: .txt |
| 01:04:21 | Phish| | using pin 1 because the microphone has a power source, so i'd rather not leave that unchecked |
| 01:05:11 | Alonea | Llorean: I will. Though it throws off my my whole entire system. |
| 01:05:17 | Soap | pins 1 and 2 are connected on the ipod motherboard. |
| 01:05:18 | linuxstb_ | Phish|: Which ipod do you have? |
| 01:05:25 | Soap | make sure you verify which side is up! |
| 01:05:30 | Febs | Alonea: huh?! |
| 01:05:58 | Phish| | linuxstb: i have a 4g greyscale and a 5g 30gb |
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| 01:06:31 | linuxstb_ | Phish|: OK. I was hoping you had a Nano - I don't think anyone has done a reliable test with the Nano's line-in yet. |
| 01:06:53 | Phish| | i know a few people who have them |
| 01:07:21 | Phish| | i might be able to convince them to let me use one for a few days to try it |
| 01:07:25 | Alonea | Febs: I used to beta stories for people and they like to easily see what is generally being changed. I am pasting section number then highlighting what I am changing if its a typo or sayind add, and then what should be added. |
| 01:07:29 | safetydan | Nico_P: from a brief skim, your WPS code looks good. Short, and understandable, unlike the current mess :) |
| 01:08:13 | linuxstb_ | Is it in sync with current SVN? |
| 01:08:25 | Nico_P | safetydan: thanks :) have you given up on this ? |
| 01:08:36 | Nico_P | linuxstb_: it's not a patch, it's independant |
| 01:08:42 | Nico_P | still work in progress |
| 01:08:48 | safetydan | Nico_P, no, just had no time to really do much useful with Rockbox |
| 01:09:10 | safetydan | that, and I'm not even sure if I have commit access anymore after my mailing list mistake :) |
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| 01:09:15 | Nico_P | safetydan: so you don't mind if i try to finish this ? |
| 01:10:01 | preglow | you'd better have, you've got some eq graphing support to finish! |
| 01:10:22 | safetydan | Nico_P, I'd be extremely happy for someone to finish it |
| 01:10:33 | Nico_P | safetydan: cool, i'll try |
| 01:10:51 | safetydan | Cleaning up the WPS code is going to major win for code size and readability I hope. |
| 01:11:10 | Nico_P | I think i'm up to the task (unlike for metadata on buffer) |
| 01:12:17 | safetydan | preglow, once I figure out how to divide a two very large, very similar numbers in fixed point I'll let you know :) |
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| 01:13:21 | Soap | scorche: do you hear that? you need a line-in scorche ? |
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| 01:14:17 | Soap | Phish|: I also suggest doing some pratice runs assembling and disassembling the connectors, esp. the metal hooked clips - they are much more difficult to assemble when restrained by wires. |
| 01:15:11 | Phish| | yeah i figured as much |
| 01:15:15 | Nico_P | is there someone who knows the wps code well ? |
| 01:15:30 | Phish| | where did you get the actual plug for the other end of the connector? |
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| 01:15:37 | Phish| | to plug the mic or line-in cable in |
| 01:16:05 | safetydan | Nico_P, I don't think there's any one person that really knows the WPS code |
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| 01:16:49 | Nico_P | that's what i feared... but what i'd need would just be a quick description about what part of the code does what |
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| 01:17:07 | Nico_P | it would help a lot because the code is a real maze |
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| 01:17:24 | Phish| | Nico_P: that's an understatement |
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| 01:18:12 | HigherBeing | hi guys, I just installed rockbox on my 5g ipod, and have a little question, and wondered if u guys can help, i have 50gb of content loaded onto my ipod from itunes, can rockbox read that content? |
| 01:18:25 | Febs | Yes. |
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| 01:18:53 | Febs | At least, Rockbox can read unprotected music content. |
| 01:19:02 | Soap | Phish|: I got the plugs from other projects. |
| 01:19:08 | Febs | Use the database. |
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| 01:19:26 | HigherBeing | see i've been reading the manual, and i cant find that option for some reason |
| 01:19:30 | Phish| | Soap: rgr |
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| 01:19:30 | Nico_P | btw, i'm still hoping someone could commit my progressbar y-coord patch rewrite |
| 01:19:49 | safetydan | HigherBeing, you may find the iPod FAQ useful http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 01:19:51 | Nico_P | otherwise i'll force it in through the WPS tokenizer :) |
| 01:20:10 | Soap | why settle for progress bar having a setable Y cord. Why not give every element in the WPS a setable Y? |
| 01:20:14 | | Part hcs |
| 01:20:21 | preglow | safetydan: nah, they're actually very small and very equal :> |
| 01:20:25 | Febs | HigherBeing: as well as chapter 4.2 of the Rockbox Manual. |
| 01:20:30 | Llorean | Perhaps it's time for WPS2.0?l |
| 01:20:30 | HigherBeing | thx safetydan, imma check it out (btw sorry for bothering u guys with n00b q's lol ;) |
| 01:20:30 | preglow | like 1/2 and the like |
| 01:20:54 | Llorean | Instead of trying to "fix" the mess that exists now, reevaluate it, since it's all a pile of patches on top of what was originally a text-only system. |
| 01:21:36 | Soap | exactly - if you're breaking the "text line" layout for one element... |
| 01:22:14 | Alonea | Llorean: I know you said .txt, but would html be acceptable? |
| 01:22:45 | Llorean | Alonea: I'd imagine most people who can get to the webpage that the patch tracker is on have something that can render HTML. ;) |
| 01:23:10 | Alonea | Llorean: alright, that would be muuuch easier than .txt |
| 01:23:29 | Nico_P | Llorean: WPS 2.0 :) that's tempting but i think amiconn has viewports in mind for this |
| 01:23:58 | Nico_P | Soap: nice idea but that seems a bit out of scope for what i'm working on |
| 01:24:38 | Nico_P | or maybe i could try to redo the whole WPS system but that would require serious discussion with the devs |
| 01:24:43 | Nico_P | maybe even a new WPS code |
| 01:24:46 | JdGordon | Nico_P: I belive the idea for viewports is going t be lower down and the wps would use one or a few viewports to dispay it.. i.e it wot be wps only |
| 01:25:44 | safetydan | I think just fixing the WPS system not to reparse every time and simplifying the parser should be enough to start with |
| 01:25:46 | Llorean | Yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Viewports should be considered a separate goal than WPSes, since in theory they should just be virtual screens which could for example render the menu on half the screen while still showing a portion of the WPS viewport, or whatnot. |
| 01:26:39 | Nico_P | yeah, i didn't see viewports as something that powerful... they become much more interesting to me now :) |
| 01:27:25 | Nico_P | JdGordon: how would you feel about commiting the cuesheet patch ? is there some things you see left to do ? |
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| 01:30:55 | webguest18 | when u see ur tracks on rockbox why do most of them say untagge |
| 01:30:59 | webguest18 | untagged |
| 01:31:40 | Soap | because they are |
| 01:31:41 | Llorean | webguest18: Because they aren't properly tagged? |
| 01:31:57 | linuxstb_ | What type of files are they, and what type of tags do they have? |
| 01:32:07 | webguest18 | mp3 |
| 01:33:35 | webguest18 | know any more sites to get themes or whatever else for rockbox? |
| 01:33:52 | Llorean | webguest18: "mp3" only answers the first of linuxstb_'s two questions. |
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| 01:34:09 | webguest18 | what the hell do u mean by whattype |
| 01:34:28 | Llorean | It's not a complicated question... |
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| 01:34:44 | webguest18 | what type of tags r they? |
| 01:34:45 | Phish| | webguest18: may i suggest that you go to google, search "mp3 wiki" and do some reading about mp3s |
| 01:34:48 | webguest18 | meaning? |
| 01:34:53 | webguest18 | lol |
| 01:34:57 | webguest18 | shut up |
| 01:35:01 | Llorean | webguest18: What type of tags? ID3v1, ID3v2.3, ID3v2.4? |
| 01:35:02 | Phish| | no? |
| 01:35:06 | Alonea | Ok, on the gigabeat, when you hold down the "Menu" button a little quick menus comes up for changing the repeat mode, shuffle, and the file structure, is there an official name for it? |
| 01:35:09 | webguest18 | my ipod works fine i can see every song name |
| 01:35:11 | webguest18 | its my friends |
| 01:35:26 | Mikachu | Alonea: quick screen? |
| 01:35:30 | webguest18 | where do u find out what type of tags? |
| 01:35:37 | Llorean | webguest18: Well, if you can't answer the questions it's pretty much impossible for us to know why it doesn't work. |
| 01:35:41 | webguest18 | just click properties on it? |
| 01:35:50 | Llorean | Check in any decent tagging program. |
| 01:36:07 | Alonea | Mikachu: well, so far I did not see it in the manual. I guess Quick Screen would be ok. I shall add it to Basic Concepts. |
| 01:36:13 | Llorean | And I would strongly suggest you watch your language a little bit in here, and treat people more politely. Nobody is obligated to help you. |
| 01:36:59 | Llorean | Alonea: It's often called the quick screen or quick menu, yes. I'd check for both of those already existing in the manual and see which is the official term. At least they ought to be in the H100, iPod, etc manuals. |
| 01:37:18 | Mikachu | i have only heard quick screen, and i think it's quick_screen() in the code |
| 01:37:35 | webguest18 | well for 1 who doesnt know about mp3;s |
| 01:37:40 | webguest18 | he was tryin to be smart |
| 01:38:06 | Mouser_X | No he wasn't. |
| 01:38:17 | Alonea | Llorean: its referred I think in this one part saying that special menues for quick acces exist, but not what they are. shall look init further to see if its named or referred to again. |
| 01:38:20 | Mouser_X | He was trying to help you figure out how to answer the question that was asked to you. |
| 01:38:24 | Febs | Alonea: The Quick Screen is described in section 5.11. It should probably also be identified in the basic concepts section. |
| 01:38:26 | Llorean | webguest18: I can pretty much guarantee you're the only person in here who doesn't know about the different versions of ID3. |
| 01:38:32 | webguest18 | about researching for mp3's? |
| 01:38:47 | webguest18 | ur prob right |
| 01:38:51 | Llorean | webguest18: His suggestion was so that you would be better capable of answering any future questions we asked you. |
| 01:38:51 | webguest18 | teach me more about that |
| 01:38:54 | Febs | It's descirbed in that section as the "Quick Menu." |
| 01:39:16 | pixelma | Alonea: it's called Quick menu in the manuals (those where it's already implemented (would be chapter 5.11 - currently missing in the Gigabeat manual) |
| 01:39:20 | webguest18 | how is it my ipod i can see all my tracks properly names |
| 01:39:23 | Llorean | webguest18: The idea is "Teach yourself". You're as capable of reading something already typed out in wikipedia as whatever I could type. |
| 01:39:24 | webguest18 | and my buddies shows untagged? |
| 01:39:28 | Alonea | yes, that chapter is indeed missing |
| 01:39:38 | Llorean | webguest18: Because his files are not properly tagged, perhaps? |
| 01:39:44 | HigherBeing | ok I've gotten further now, and have installed fubar, and the foo_pod file, but with that file foobar crashes, does any1 know ? |
| 01:39:52 | webguest18 | k and tagged meaning not named properly? |
| 01:40:01 | Llorean | webguest18: No, the filename has nothing to do with it. |
| 01:40:05 | webguest18 | ok |
| 01:40:11 | Mouser_X | webguest18: No, the ID3 tags are different. |
| 01:40:14 | Llorean | webguest18: I'm talking about the ID3 tags that hold information like "Artist" "Album" "Genre" and "Title" |
| 01:40:20 | webguest18 | ok |
| 01:40:29 | Mouser_X | Llorean can type faster than I. |
| 01:40:32 | Llorean | HigherBeing: I would suggest asking in the *foobar* support location. |
| 01:40:33 | webguest18 | when he goes to track, says all untagged |
| 01:40:45 | Llorean | webguest18: Meaning their tags are either improper, or missing. |
| 01:41:10 | webguest18 | when they play they r abbreviated i believe |
| 01:41:18 | Mouser_X | Or, a format that isn't supported. |
| 01:41:23 | robin0800 | foo_pod does not work with the latest version of Foobar2000 |
| 01:41:30 | Mouser_X | They might be APE tags, or something. |
| 01:41:30 | HigherBeing | i got .83 |
| 01:41:32 | Febs | And I don't think that foo_pod is supported in the .9.x version of Foobar. |
| 01:41:40 | Febs | Beaten to it. |
| 01:41:44 | webguest18 | what is foobar |
| 01:41:45 | Llorean | Mouser_X: APE tags on MP3 *are* improper. :-P |
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| 01:41:49 | HigherBeing | i downloaded the recommended version |
| 01:42:04 | Llorean | HigherBeing: But why are you asking about Foobar and foo_pod in #Rockbox, rather than say the foobar forums? |
| 01:42:40 | Febs | Let's back up. HigherBeing, what is it that you are trying to accomplish? |
| 01:42:41 | HigherBeing | because i figured that others here might have done the same thing i have, and know the answer to the ultimate solution since that was their goal aswell |
| 01:43:14 | robin0800 | foobars good for adding replaygain tags |
| 01:43:23 | webguest18 | meaning |
| 01:43:34 | Llorean | HigherBeing: Rockbox's goal is completely unrelated to Foobar or Foo_pod... |
| 01:43:34 | HigherBeing | I have 50gb of content transfered to my ipod via itunes, i dont feel like reloading all that, and I'm trying to use rockbox and have it sort everything correctly not in these weird f00 folders |
| 01:43:45 | webguest18 | u have to read |
| 01:43:49 | webguest18 | teach yourself |
| 01:43:52 | robin0800 | Rockbox supports replaygain |
| 01:44:00 | webguest18 | right mouser? |
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| 01:44:20 | Febs | HigherBeing: use the database. |
| 01:44:35 | HigherBeing | Febs thats what i'm trying to do |
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| 01:44:45 | HigherBeing | but i dont understand how to |
| 01:44:45 | Febs | No, you're not. |
| 01:44:57 | linuxstb_ | foo_pod won't help you with the Rockbox database... |
| 01:44:58 | HigherBeing | from what i read and understood i needed foobar to create the database |
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| 01:45:03 | Febs | Did you read chapter 4.2 of the Rockbox Manual as I suggested earlier? |
| 01:45:07 | webguest18 | here u go do this http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-350004.2 |
| 01:45:11 | HigherBeing | i read the faq |
| 01:45:20 | webguest18 | thats how u do the database |
| 01:45:40 | webguest18 | go to general settings: file view: database |
| 01:45:44 | webguest18 | load ram yes |
| 01:45:49 | webguest18 | auto update yes |
| 01:45:55 | webguest18 | initialize now |
| 01:46:22 | linuxstb_ | HigherBeing: foo_pod is used to create the database used by the Apple firmware from files you've copied manually (i.e. without using itunes) to your ipod. That's not what you want to do. |
| 01:46:34 | webguest18 | upate now. then go back to file view and select show all files and click database |
| 01:46:43 | linuxstb_ | You want to create the Rockbox database from files transferred by itunes... |
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| 01:47:05 | HigherBeing | oh |
| 01:47:14 | HigherBeing | well shit that was easy then |
| 01:47:28 | webguest18 | who u talkin to HigherBeing |
| 01:47:37 | webguest18 | where do u get more themes? |
| 01:47:47 | Mikachu | maybe you should ask u |
| 01:47:50 | safetydan | Well, HigherBeing's confusing is probably related to this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ#How_do_I_access_music_that_I_hav |
| 01:47:57 | HigherBeing | yea |
| 01:48:01 | HigherBeing | thats what i was reading |
| 01:48:09 | Febs | But that also says this: "The Rockbox equivalent to the iTunes database is simply called Database. This will build a unified database containing both the music you have transfered using iTunes and music you have just copied to your iPod's hard disk, and allow you to browse it by Artist, Album, Genre etc." |
| 01:48:22 | linuxstb_ | We should probably delete those foo_pod references - AFAIK, it's never worked reliably. |
| 01:48:31 | Febs | Agreed. |
| 01:48:36 | safetydan | webguest18, where have you looked? The only place I know of is either the forums or http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGallery |
| 01:49:25 | webguest18 | only place ive been is rockbox |
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| 01:49:27 | * | Febs tries to edit the IpodFAQ and finds that linuxstb has beaten him to it. |
| 01:49:27 | Phish| | I don't know if anyone currently here would know about this, but are there actual legal restrictions that deal with allowing rockbox to legally/properly handle Apple DRM? |
| 01:49:46 | webguest18 | yea ive been there |
| 01:49:53 | webguest18 | wish someone would make some more |
| 01:50:21 | Febs | "Someone" could be you. |
| 01:50:29 | Llorean | Phish|: Decrypting it in the US for playback would qualify as a breach of the DMCA, I believe. Even if you had a legal right to access the content, the decryption itself is still a violation. |
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| 01:50:30 | webguest18 | what does the disk spindown mean? |
| 01:50:33 | webguest18 | yea i wish |
| 01:50:36 | Febs | Or should I say, "Someone could be u." |
| 01:50:50 | Phish| | Llorean: thanks |
| 01:51:02 | Phish| | i think we had talked about this the other day |
| 01:51:08 | robin0800 | download one you sorta like and modify it |
| 01:51:13 | Phish| | tis unfortunate that this is the case |
| 01:51:15 | webguest18 | how do u modify them |
| 01:51:18 | webguest18 | what program u need? |
| 01:51:23 | linuxstb_ | Febs: I've finished, feel free to edit some more. |
| 01:51:40 | HigherBeing | how do i know when its done initializing? |
| 01:52:11 | webguest18 | ull see a cd in top right |
| 01:52:12 | webguest18 | it spings |
| 01:52:12 | robin0800 | notepad paint |
| 01:52:14 | webguest18 | it spins |
| 01:52:23 | webguest18 | when thats done its done initializin |
| 01:52:32 | HigherBeing | ah ok... |
| 01:52:47 | webguest18 | would u guys prefer putting on directory cache? |
| 01:53:23 | safetydan | webguest18, it depends on what you want. dircache makes file browsing more responsive at the cost of battery life |
| 01:53:34 | webguest18 | so it saves battery? |
| 01:53:37 | webguest18 | or no? |
| 01:53:45 | Llorean | webguest18: It saves battery if you browse a lot. |
| 01:53:51 | webguest18 | got ya |
| 01:53:52 | Llorean | If you browse the filetree, specifically, not database. |
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| 01:54:13 | webguest18 | so it doesnt hurt it to have it on? |
| 01:54:18 | linuxstb_ | Although doesn't the tagcache auto-update rely on dircache? |
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| 01:54:26 | linuxstb_ | s/tagcache/Database/ |
| 01:54:49 | webguest18 | what about disk spin down, what setting u guys recommend? |
| 01:55:06 | Phish| | webguest18: the rockbox defaults are pretty good |
| 01:55:11 | webguest18 | k |
| 01:55:20 | webguest18 | which is 5 i believe |
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| 01:55:29 | Phish| | hold on, i'll checl |
| 01:55:33 | Phish| | check* |
| 01:55:38 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I thought the dependence had been removed, but I'm not really sure |
| 01:56:23 | Phish| | webguest18: yeah, it's 5 seconds |
| 01:56:46 | webguest18 | what if u dont browse for songs a lot, is directory cache bad to have on or does it use more battery? |
| 01:58:00 | Llorean | webguest18: It can use more battery, but nobody's really sure at exactly what point it becomes better to have it disabled. Really, if you're not sure, you should probably just have it on. |
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| 01:58:23 | webguest18 | cool |
| 01:58:24 | webguest18 | i do |
| 01:58:27 | Soap | what does dir cache cost other than playback buffer? |
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| 01:58:55 | Phish| | finally |
| 01:58:57 | sk8deamon | hi i am new to rockbox and i have installed working rockbox but now i have reformated my ipod and wanted help getting this skin if possible http://pijulius.blogspot.com/2006/05/jblackglass-for-ipod-photocolor.html |
| 01:58:58 | Phish| | sheesh |
| 01:59:03 | Llorean | Soap: That's it. |
| 01:59:07 | sk8deamon | can someone help with this |
| 01:59:21 | sk8deamon | i am good at following steps instructions |
| 01:59:23 | Soap | sk8deamon: what iPod? |
| 01:59:35 | sk8deamon | ipod photo 30 gb |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:31 | robin0800 | think you need a special build |
| 02:00:43 | Soap | you can either install pijulius' unsupported (and old as Moses) build from the forums (assuming he still offers it), or (assuming he still offers the patches as they aren't in the tracker) patch a current build yourself (they are WAY out of date) or forget you ever saw that website. |
| 02:01:17 | sk8deamon | he doesnt offer the file anymore |
| 02:01:28 | sk8deamon | and i never patched anything |
| 02:01:37 | sk8deamon | so thats the problem |
| 02:01:44 | linuxstb_ | Then Soap's last option seems the only one... |
| 02:01:51 | Soap | then outside of hooking up with someone who has an old copy lying around, consider his efforts effectively dead until he comes back. |
| 02:01:52 | sk8deamon | and that skin is way too good to leave alone |
| 02:02:02 | sk8deamon | oh k |
| 02:02:30 | sk8deamon | anyone here have jBlackGlass for iPod Photo/Color working please help |
| 02:02:45 | robin0800 | senabs builds are up to date and might run that theme but dont think his builds support your iPod |
| 02:02:51 | Soap | Yelling at him (politely) to post his (even ugly and outdated) patches to the tracker is in order. |
| 02:03:03 | Soap | senab is NOT building with PiJ's patches. |
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| 02:03:28 | yipe | was that guy on 24 using rockbox on his archOS MP3 player? |
| 02:03:34 | Soap | It is a shame when code disapears because it never gets put on the tracker. |
| 02:03:40 | Phish| | does Senab's build contain the scrollwheel patch for the 5g? |
| 02:03:47 | Soap | Phish|: yes |
| 02:03:53 | * | Phish| vibrates |
| 02:04:07 | Phish| | time to download it |
| 02:04:12 | sk8deamon | well does anyone have any thing to compare to that theme |
| 02:04:17 | sk8deamon | that i can get |
| 02:04:34 | Soap | not the new methodology which is being worked on, but an older attempt to replicate the Apple FW scroll behavior. |
| 02:05:05 | Soap | as far as eye-candy, sk8deamon, there are only a handful of patches that I am aware of which are current. |
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| 02:05:30 | Phish| | your best bet is just to go with a theme that runs on the official builds |
| 02:06:07 | sk8deamon | that theme was the only reason actually i downloaded this rockbox |
| 02:06:18 | robin0800 | unless you realy like album art |
| 02:06:24 | Soap | album art, scroll margins, y-cord position progress bar, and slider progress bar. |
| 02:06:47 | robin0800 | not to mention cop |
| 02:06:56 | sk8deamon | well if someone can help me i can certainly donate some money |
| 02:06:58 | Soap | is that eye-candy? |
| 02:07:05 | Phish| | what is cop? |
| 02:07:06 | robin0800 | no |
| 02:07:16 | Phish| | i noticed senab's builds mention it |
| 02:07:24 | Soap | CoProcessor |
| 02:07:40 | robin0800 | but graphics and responce is much faster with it |
| 02:07:46 | Soap | moving the audio thread to the second core of the iPod CPU. |
| 02:08:05 | Phish| | ah |
| 02:08:32 | Soap | sk8deamon: if you are unwilling to patch - any WPS except the PiJ ones will work with Senab's build. |
| 02:09:12 | sk8deamon | see i am have no clue how to patch |
| 02:09:19 | sk8deamon | i can follow instructions |
| 02:09:37 | Soap | it will take a lot. His patches, even if you can get them, are way out of date. |
| 02:09:58 | Soap | They will require a bit of reworking to get functional again. |
| 02:10:11 | sk8deamon | the patches are on his website |
| 02:10:19 | Soap | (and from what I gather they were never _very_ functional to begin with) |
| 02:10:27 | sk8deamon | oh |
| 02:10:44 | sk8deamon | well do u know anyone good enough to rework them |
| 02:10:56 | sk8deamon | i can definetly pay like $30 |
| 02:11:17 | robin0800 | senab's build uses patches from the tracker |
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| 02:12:06 | Phish| | i'm installing senab's cop build now |
| 02:14:08 | robin0800 | I like it a lot |
| 02:14:10 | Phish| | LOL at the xbox360 theme |
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| 02:17:32 | robin0800 | Phish| do you like senab's build? |
| 02:19:22 | Phish| | havent turned it on yet |
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| 02:19:38 | Phish| | getting some senab-specific themes |
| 02:20:06 | robin0800 | from where |
| 02:20:58 | Phish| | www.rockbox-themes.org |
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| 02:26:18 | robin0800 | Thanks never seen that page before |
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| 02:38:48 | webguest75 | How do I get doom on my iPod? |
| 02:38:58 | webguest75 | I already have RockBox |
| 02:39:24 | Llorean | webguest75: I suggest you take a look at the manual... |
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| 02:42:19 | Soap | if sublime was the least bit polite I'd offer him assisstance. |
| 02:42:32 | sk8deamon | i had rockbox runing but i restarted it and now its stuck on rockbox splash screen |
| 02:42:49 | sk8deamon | any ideas |
| 02:42:51 | Phish| | sk8deamon: hold select and menu until it reboots |
| 02:42:57 | Soap | how long has it been on the splash-screen? |
| 02:43:14 | linuxstb | webguest75: The manual on the website is out of date - where it says "/games/doom/", replace with "/.rockbox/doom/" |
| 02:43:26 | sk8deamon | so far 3 mins |
| 02:44:23 | linuxstb | sk8deamon: Are you running senab's build? |
| 02:44:37 | sk8deamon | no |
| 02:44:51 | sk8deamon | the one dan_a gave me before he left |
| 02:44:51 | linuxstb | Just try resetting - hold MENU+SELECT. |
| 02:44:53 | Phish| | it's safe to delete ipod_control if i dont plan to use the apple fw, correct? |
| 02:44:56 | sk8deamon | i did |
| 02:45:08 | pixelma | Llorean: what do you think - would making the following two topics a sticky thread be of any help in the apple installation forum ("rockbox error: -1" and "how to manually boot into disk mode")? Would people read those? |
| 02:45:16 | linuxstb | Try a settings reset - turn the hold switch on as soon as you see the Rockbox bootloader appear. |
| 02:45:57 | sk8deamon | nice |
| 02:46:00 | sk8deamon | thanks |
| 02:46:01 | Llorean | pixelma: My experience is that stickies rather regularly get ignored, but I think creating one "Very Frequently Asked Question" sticky would be okay, with a link to the further IpodFAQ wiki page for the rest of the questions. |
| 02:46:02 | sk8deamon | worked |
| 02:46:06 | linuxstb | pixelma: I think we need some kind of "troubleshooting" page in the wiki or manual, and then as make as many links as we can to it. |
| 02:49:32 | Phish| | we also need someone to make a primer on WPS editing |
| 02:49:41 | Phish| | i'd devote the time if i had it :-/ |
| 02:50:09 | linuxstb | Isn't there already a simple guide to WPS writing? |
| 02:50:16 | pixelma | yes... would be worth a try. I tried to think of something because I also experienced that the forum search function is broken sometimes (not that I get the impression that many people use it :/ ) |
| 02:50:18 | Phish| | i havent seen it |
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| 02:50:31 | pixelma | there are two in the wiki |
| 02:50:48 | Phish| | oh god, why does senab's build have the default text color as orange |
| 02:50:50 | pixelma | wps guides I mean |
| 02:50:54 | Soap | pixelma: I think Llorean's point was made ;) |
| 02:51:02 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SimpleGuideToWPSMaking |
| 02:51:06 | Soap | Phish|: he doesn't. |
| 02:51:34 | robin0800 | reload a theme |
| 02:51:35 | Phish| | hmmm, that was really odd |
| 02:51:40 | Phish| | reloading my theme didn't fix it |
| 02:51:46 | Phish| | but a menu + select reboot did |
| 02:51:49 | Soap | clear your settings. |
| 02:52:10 | Soap | as soon as you see the small text "loading rockbox" put the hold switch into the on position. |
| 02:52:15 | webguest75 | I cant find out how to play doom |
| 02:52:28 | webguest75 | Where are the doom wads? |
| 02:52:55 | Phish| | wow |
| 02:52:58 | Phish| | this is broken |
| 02:53:08 | Phish| | pressing menu in any of the settings screens crashes my ipod |
| 02:53:20 | Phish| | is the cop build not intended for the 5g 30gb? |
| 02:53:21 | linuxstb | webguest75: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
| 02:53:36 | Soap | Phish|: when did you first install rockbox? |
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| 02:53:46 | Phish| | Soap: a week ago |
| 02:53:48 | Phish| | at most |
| 02:54:04 | Soap | When you boot...is it black text on a light blue background or white text on a black background BEFORE the splash screen? |
| 02:54:11 | Phish| | white on black |
| 02:54:29 | Phish| | though it wont boot at all now |
| 02:54:32 | Soap | did you reset settings? |
| 02:54:36 | Phish| | yeah |
| 02:54:54 | Phish| | oh this is cute |
| 02:55:32 | Phish| | it now doesnt get recognized by windows |
| 02:55:38 | robin0800 | did you downlad the right one ? |
| 02:55:56 | Phish| | i downloaded the most recent senab_cop |
| 02:56:26 | robin0800 | for your particular ipod i mean't |
| 02:56:34 | Phish| | yeah |
| 02:56:57 | Soap | did you download the 32MB/30GB or 64MB/60GB build? |
| 02:57:05 | Phish| | 32mb/30gb |
| 02:57:24 | linuxstb | Phish|: You should ask senab for help with his version of Rockbox... Or at least find out exactly what he's changed. Some people patch the USB behaviour for example. |
| 02:57:44 | Phish| | i'm gonna go stick it on my charger |
| 02:57:45 | webguest75 | Is there a way to change the font in your iPod? |
| 02:57:49 | Phish| | and see if that will make it boot |
| 02:58:16 | linuxstb | webguest75: Have you read the manual? |
| 02:58:21 | webguest75 | Yeah |
| 02:59:04 | linuxstb | Then you know the answer. |
| 02:59:09 | Soap | linuxstb: he has patched the USB behavior. |
| 02:59:34 | Phish| | ok, there we go |
| 02:59:34 | Soap | plugging in the cable won't cause a reboot unless you press menu while doing it - the opposite of normal. |
| 02:59:34 | webguest75 | No I dont |
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| 02:59:39 | webguest75 | Which section do I have to look at? |
| 02:59:51 | robin0800 | not that i'm certain it works |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:11 | Phish| | so is the coprocessor version not meant for the 30gb 5g? |
| 03:00:38 | Phish| | unless i've just got something screwed up....i shall try removing rockbox and installing from scratch |
| 03:00:41 | webguest75 | linux where do I find out? |
| 03:00:43 | linuxstb | Phish|: It should work on all ipods. |
| 03:01:04 | Soap | Phish|: if it were the COP patch, you would be the first one to suffer. |
| 03:01:17 | robin0800 | don't know I have a 60gb |
| 03:01:25 | linuxstb | webguest75: Section 7.3. Also make sure you installed the fonts - see section 2.2.2 |
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| 03:02:03 | Phish| | ok, it's a bug with a menu apparently |
| 03:02:12 | Phish| | it happens when you hit the menu button from the top level of the sound settings menu |
| 03:02:28 | Phish| | Undefined instruction at 0001ADC0 |
| 03:02:39 | Soap | you should report that in his thread. |
| 03:02:52 | Phish| | already on the way :) |
| 03:10:24 | Phish| | what cases do you guys use for your ipods? |
| 03:10:30 | Phish| | ipod video owners, specifically |
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| 03:11:07 | Soap | a speck case which doubles the thickness of my ipod with super-beefy rubber. |
| 03:11:28 | Soap | Phish|: see pm |
| 03:11:28 | Phish| | i have one of those for my 4g |
| 03:12:26 | Mikachu | i use my pocket :) |
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| 03:14:13 | robin0800 | iskin |
| 03:15:15 | Phish| | i'm thinking about buying one of those stupidly expensive vaja cases |
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| 03:16:26 | Mouser_X | What does Senab's build add to WPS, that the official build doesn't have (other than album art)? |
| 03:16:42 | Mikachu | i think scroll margins |
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| 03:16:54 | Mouser_X | (There was talk of Senab's build when I timed out, which is why I ask when I got back on.) |
| 03:17:03 | Mouser_X | What's scroll margins? |
| 03:17:06 | robin0800 | look at the patches on his site |
| 03:17:09 | Mikachu | you can look in the irc logs on rockbox.org |
| 03:17:37 | Mikachu | Mouser_X: it means text scrolls in a narrower region than normal, so you can have a picture beside it |
| 03:17:47 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
| 03:18:13 | Mouser_X | Thanks. |
| 03:18:31 | Mouser_X | I was just curious. I wondered if it added anything big/special. |
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| 03:19:31 | robin0800 | USB Connection Button Press (All Builds) |
| 03:19:31 | robin0800 | Scrolling Margins (All Builds) |
| 03:19:31 | robin0800 | Full Screen Startup Logo (All Builds) |
| 03:19:31 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK robin0800 |
| 03:19:31 | robin0800 | LCD Brightness Patch (All Builds) |
| 03:19:31 | robin0800 | 'The' Sort (All Builds) |
| 03:19:32 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 03:19:32 | robin0800 | 'Piezo Driver (All Builds) |
| 03:19:34 | robin0800 | COP Driver (COP Builds only) |
| 03:19:37 | robin0800 | Quick exit for Menu Screen (All Builds) |
| 03:20:08 | Phish| | LCD brightness and COP Driver are the most important two |
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| 03:20:21 | Phish| | LCD brightness should save some battery |
| 03:20:36 | Mouser_X | I'm getting a Gigabeat, so I can't use them anyway. I was simply curious. |
| 03:20:46 | robin0800 | Piezo driver is also nice |
| 03:20:54 | Mouser_X | (At least, I'm assuming he doesn't make TGB drivers.) |
| 03:21:03 | Mouser_X | *builds |
| 03:21:54 | Mikachu | the piezo is fun to play with |
| 03:22:28 | robin0800 | video & nano only |
| 03:22:46 | Phish| | what can you do with the piezo other than make it click? |
| 03:22:50 | Mikachu | beep |
| 03:23:02 | Phish| | how useful |
| 03:23:06 | Phish| | :) |
| 03:23:12 | Mikachu | it's especially fun when you make it beep as a function of your finger's position on the scroll wheel |
| 03:23:22 | Mikachu | instant crap viola |
| 03:23:41 | Phish| | haha well the viola as an instrument is crap anyway |
| 03:23:55 | Phish| | so i think all you really need to say is instant viola |
| 03:23:59 | Mikachu | if you made it constrained to real notes, it would be more of a crap piano |
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| 03:25:54 | StarScream | hi guys, was just following the instructions on this page |
| 03:25:54 | StarScream | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-h300/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 |
| 03:26:08 | StarScream | and i was wondering if you can patch the firmware without a windows machines |
| 03:26:12 | Soap | I think the piezo provides a very nice feedback. |
| 03:26:14 | StarScream | as i do not have one |
| 03:26:28 | Mikachu | except you can't hear it when you're listening to music ): |
| 03:26:33 | Mikachu | :) rather |
| 03:26:36 | Soap | you have your music too loud. |
| 03:26:37 | robin0800 | so do I |
| 03:26:52 | Mikachu | clicking in the phones would be more useful |
| 03:27:01 | Mikachu | also some people have those in-ear things that filter out everything |
| 03:27:36 | Soap | I do, and even with 12db of isolation I can hear the piezo when my ipod is on my desk. |
| 03:27:45 | robin0800 | That wouldn't be the piezo the would it |
| 03:27:46 | Mikachu | sure, indoors |
| 03:28:07 | ze | only 12db? |
| 03:28:10 | ze | thats not that good |
| 03:28:16 | ze | my senn's give like 32db or somesuch :p |
| 03:28:23 | Soap | no they don't |
| 03:28:27 | Soap | whatever they claim |
| 03:28:40 | Soap | solid earplugs don't give but thatmuch |
| 03:28:50 | ze | oh they've over-ear, not earplugs |
| 03:28:54 | ze | hd280's |
| 03:28:57 | Phish| | well it's definitely a bug in senab's build |
| 03:29:03 | Phish| | as a fresh install still does the same |
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| 03:29:48 | ze | though i have to admit, their isolation's fallen off as a function of the springyness wearing out and them no longer acting as a clamp on my head heh |
| 03:29:52 | Soap | I still don't buy the number - that's better than my shooting earpads. |
| 03:30:18 | Soap | and they are quite a big heavier and thicker than hd280s. |
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| 03:30:47 | ze | well ya know such a number is glib anyway |
| 03:30:52 | ze | no matter what its on |
| 03:31:10 | ze | i doubt there's any that have the specified attenuation accross the whole audible frequency spectrum |
| 03:31:15 | Soap | well, for hearing protectors it is tested by the govt. |
| 03:31:31 | Soap | no - for hearing protectors it is the minimal attenuation. |
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| 03:32:59 | ze | they must use interesting materials to block out frequencies that need several-foot-thick stuff to block out in traditional soundproofing |
| 03:33:25 | Mikachu | especially those you hear through your skull |
| 03:34:03 | Mikachu | do any of them implement active sound cancelling? |
| 03:34:30 | Stoned4Life | q: what files are safe to delete after installing rockbox to the iPod? |
| 03:34:39 | Soap | I'm sure there is a lower limit to their claimed coverage - but look at a box of plugs some day - most all list their attenuation at 5 or 6 frequencies across the spectrum, and the number claimed on the box is the lowest of those. |
| 03:34:49 | Stoned4Life | for example, ._IPod_Control, etc. ? |
| 03:35:01 | Mikachu | ipod_control contains all the music you copied over with itunes |
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| 03:35:02 | Soap | Mikachu: I'm too poor for the active ones. |
| 03:35:04 | ze | Soap: ah |
| 03:35:10 | Mikachu | i was just wondering if they existed |
| 03:35:31 | NuclearDog | Stoned4Life: If you don't have any music put on there with iTunes, you can delete everything except .rockbox and rockbox.ipod. |
| 03:35:31 | Stoned4Life | so all I need on my ipod after installing rockbox is the .rockbox folder and .rockbox_ipod? |
| 03:35:31 | ze | Soap: yeah i'm sure senn's claim isn't up to the standards of hearing-protection products |
| 03:35:38 | Stoned4Life | err, rockbox.ipod* |
| 03:35:46 | Stoned4Life | okay, thanks |
| 03:35:58 | Mikachu | you can put rockbox.ipod in .rockbox if you want to further tidy it up |
| 03:36:01 | Mikachu | (but not in any other folder) |
| 03:36:25 | ze | Soap: hell, they're not even compliant with hearing-protection laws and make a point in the manual that its up to you to keep the db from them at safe levels for your ears :p |
| 03:36:37 | Stoned4Life | that helps, thank you guys. really looking forward to playing all my flac music on this |
| 03:36:58 | Soap | did you say flac? |
| 03:37:01 | Soap | oh no. |
| 03:37:12 | Stoned4Life | oh.. no? |
| 03:37:15 | Soap | Rockbox only supports FLAK. |
| 03:37:17 | ze | heh |
| 03:37:18 | Stoned4Life | =P |
| 03:37:25 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 03:37:26 | ze | is that one of them new kodecs? |
| 03:37:32 | Soap | lol |
| 03:37:35 | Stoned4Life | hah |
| 03:37:36 | Mikachu | am i the only one who didn't get that joke? |
| 03:37:50 | Phish| | yeah, similar to wavepak |
| 03:37:54 | Phish| | they're really bleeding edge |
| 03:37:56 | Mouser_X | I saw it as a very poor joke. Not much to get. |
| 03:37:59 | Stoned4Life | anyhting's better than aak |
| 03:38:06 | ze | heh |
| 03:38:12 | Soap | yes, a poor joke, thank you kind Mouser_X |
| 03:38:17 | Phish| | that one actually made me lol |
| 03:39:03 | Mikachu | i have another bad joke then |
| 03:39:08 | Mikachu | rockbox doesn't work, it wroks! |
| 03:39:30 | Phish| | dont quit your day job |
| 03:39:30 | Mouser_X | lol |
| 03:39:45 | Mikachu | i'm a student :) |
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| 03:44:25 | webguest80 | hello everyone |
| 03:44:49 | Mouser_X | Everyone isn't here right now. |
| 03:44:55 | Mouser_X | I can take a message if you'd like. |
| 03:45:00 | Mouser_X | ( :P ) |
| 03:45:17 | webguest80 | Good attempt at a joke :-) |
| 03:45:26 | Soap | Phish|: tell senab which build (date, target, size) you are using. |
| 03:45:43 | Soap | Everybody|away −−-> |
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| 03:46:08 | webguest80 | I was just wondering how the development on rockboy is going on for the H10 |
| 03:46:18 | jba | debauched_slot1: just tried rockbox svn build with the fwimg01.dat you put on the wiki |
| 03:46:20 | Phish| | Soap: target? |
| 03:46:25 | jba | and my machine won't boot rockbox proeprly |
| 03:46:59 | jba | It Says Loding Rockbox... and instead of going to screenshot and file browser it prints Rockbox Loaded on a new line |
| 03:47:02 | Soap | 4G / 5G - he makes more than one build - and you haven't told him A-what build you are using or B - what device you are using. |
| 03:47:13 | jba | and does nothing else. It still responds to power button though ? |
| 03:47:33 | Phish| | Soap: it's posted in a thread with the title 5/5.5g 2007/01/13 build |
| 03:48:00 | jba | debauched_slot1: recall that I use a gigabeat X30, not an f series |
| 03:48:12 | Soap | he makes 6 different builds. |
| 03:48:14 | jba | gotthardt: hey dude, you using the latest firmware with your giga? |
| 03:48:23 | Phish| | Soap: it's posted in a thread with the title 5/5.5g 2007/01/13 build |
| 03:48:24 | Soap | and you have an error to report with one of them. |
| 03:48:28 | Phish| | it's a build-specific thread |
| 03:49:12 | Soap | opic: iPod 5/5.5G Video & *Nano* |
| 03:49:29 | Phish| | edited |
| 03:49:51 | Phish| | the 30gb is considered 5.5g as well now, correct? |
| 03:49:56 | webguest80 | Does anyone know how the development on rockboy is going on for the H10? |
| 03:50:10 | Soap | Phish|: COP build or not? |
| 03:50:14 | Phish| | COP |
| 03:50:24 | Soap | tell senab. |
| 03:50:52 | Phish| | edited again |
| 03:50:53 | Soap | try the non-COP build and see if the same thing happens. |
| 03:51:01 | jba | oh well |
| 03:51:12 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 03:51:12 | * | jba hopes when i get home to build from source things will be better |
| 03:51:25 | Soap | try his previous build (he has (had?) an archive) and tell him if the error happens there also. |
| 03:52:35 | robin0800 | have you seen the warning about the bootloader for the COP builds |
| 03:52:37 | | Part webguest80 |
| 03:52:44 | Phish| | yeah |
| 03:52:49 | Phish| | used the most recent bootloader |
| 03:54:35 | robin0800 | is cop running on yours |
| 03:54:51 | Phish| | it doesnt appear to have anything to do with cop |
| 03:54:55 | Phish| | it occurs in the non-cop version as well |
| 03:55:02 | Phish| | i'm testing a few prior builds now |
| 03:55:48 | robin0800 | I think its probably one of the patches |
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| 04:02:04 | Phish| | yeah, it's one of the versions after his build on jan 6th |
| 04:02:36 | Phish| | trying the last one now |
| 04:02:57 | debauched_slot1 | jba: you still there? |
| 04:03:28 | midgey | barrywardell: ping |
| 04:03:31 | debauched_slot1 | I'd like to kick you a build that I've done - there have been weird reports of problems with the SVN builds all day, including some with iPods |
| 04:03:40 | scorche | Soap: you rang? |
| 04:04:22 | Soap | probably twice since you've been gone. |
| 04:04:43 | scorche | i see twice in one line |
| 04:05:10 | Soap | well, I'm known for that. |
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| 04:05:57 | Soap | Phish|: how can I try to reproduce the crash? |
| 04:06:13 | Soap | do anything and go to the sound settings menu? |
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| 04:06:52 | voltagex | how do I need to encode my files for the latest mpegplayer? |
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| 04:07:14 | Phish| | Soap: just go to the sound settings menu and hit the menu button |
| 04:07:22 | Soap | voltagex: mpeg2 at native or lower resolution, 44.1 audio mpeg3 |
| 04:07:28 | Phish| | it'll give you an error message and disable the backlight |
| 04:07:48 | voltagex | native for the player? |
| 04:07:48 | Soap | Phish|: that's what I thought - I do a lot of patches in common with Senab, and I can't crash that way. |
| 04:07:49 | skateboard0924 | Hello people |
| 04:07:49 | voltagex | woo upscalng too |
| 04:07:57 | Phish| | 070106 doesn't crash |
| 04:08:09 | Phish| | and it has no relation to COP, as both editions do it |
| 04:08:09 | voltagex | gah, can't remember what the res is for my h340 |
| 04:08:12 | Soap | Phish|: set the backlight to 15 and see if it still crashes. IF you feel like frickin with it anymore. |
| 04:08:30 | * | voltagex goes digging through the wiki |
| 04:08:57 | Phish| | yeah, still crashes |
| 04:09:15 | Soap | just curious, as that backlight dimming patch has a lot of conflicts. |
| 04:09:25 | voltagex | seems like I want 176x96 |
| 04:09:33 | voltagex | because it can do 26fps |
| 04:09:33 | Soap | for example, doom won't work right if the brightness isn't set for 15. |
| 04:10:19 | Phish| | well i'm just going to patch back to the latest cop build for now and forget about it |
| 04:10:26 | Phish| | everything else appears to work |
| 04:10:43 | voltagex | is there an easy way to get a build environment for os x? |
| 04:10:43 | Phish| | by that i mean i havent done anything else yet that makes it crash |
| 04:10:48 | voltagex | I have the developer tools |
| 04:12:13 | Soap | voltagex: vmware image is probably the easiest way |
| 04:12:21 | voltagex | o.O |
| 04:12:30 | voltagex | wouldn't that slow the build down horribly? |
| 04:13:32 | Soap | you're not building openoffice. |
| 04:13:33 | voltagex | crap, I'm speed limited at te moment so that file is far too big |
| 04:13:37 | voltagex | true |
| 04:18:50 | skateboard0924 | I have an iriver H10 20 GB, and whenever I play doom, when I press a switch or anything like that, it either freezes or goes back to the plugin menu |
| 04:19:01 | skateboard0924 | Does anyone know how to solve this problem? |
| 04:19:22 | Phish| | get an ipod :-x |
| 04:19:34 | Phish| | honestly though, no i dont :( |
| 04:19:45 | skateboard0924 | No way... I hate ipoo's (no offence) :-) |
| 04:20:00 | Mouser_X | Get a Gigabeat. |
| 04:20:03 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 04:20:13 | Mouser_X | Actually, no. |
| 04:20:15 | skateboard0924 | It's ok... thanks anyway, maybe someone out of these 100 people online might be able to help :P |
| 04:20:22 | Mouser_X | Doom doesn't run on the Gigabeat yet. |
| 04:20:28 | robin0800 | I love em with Rockbox |
| 04:20:39 | Phish| | and i hate iOverPricedRiverThatCopiedTheiPodNamingScheme |
| 04:20:51 | Phish| | but that's not what's important |
| 04:20:57 | Phish| | :) |
| 04:21:02 | skateboard0924 | they never copied it... didn't iriver come out before ipods? |
| 04:21:11 | skateboard0924 | Excuse me if i'm wrong |
| 04:21:28 | Phish| | who knows |
| 04:21:32 | Phish| | probably |
| 04:21:37 | Phish| | but they're still expensive |
| 04:21:40 | robin0800 | who cares |
| 04:21:41 | Phish| | though quite nice |
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| 04:22:27 | robin0800 | not with itunes and apple software |
| 04:23:06 | Phish| | i think it's a given that itunes is garbage |
| 04:23:10 | Phish| | that's why we use rockbox :) |
| 04:23:18 | skateboard0924 | Amen Phish :-) |
| 04:24:02 | Phish| | does iRiver no longer make jukeboxes? |
| 04:24:36 | skateboard0924 | Umm... I don't believe so. They're mostly coming out with those clix style/ big video players |
| 04:24:39 | voltagex | rockbox discontinued the H3xx, idiots |
| 04:24:50 | voltagex | I was hoping for a H380 |
| 04:24:59 | Phish| | that doesnt make them idiots |
| 04:25:14 | jba | debauched_slot1: am now |
| 04:25:16 | jba | was in a meeting |
| 04:25:28 | Phish| | release too many builds for too many different players and suddenly you've got to support more than you can handle |
| 04:25:33 | jba | kick away |
| 04:25:39 | skateboard0924 | H10 is a jukebox player |
| 04:25:41 | jba | i'm on web client, so not sure if you can pm me |
| 04:25:51 | Phish| | skateboard0924: that's unfortunate that they gave up on jukebox-style players |
| 04:26:00 | Phish| | that form-factor is the most popular |
| 04:26:02 | skateboard0924 | Yes, you can still pm people |
| 04:26:12 | voltagex | whoa, mpeg-mpeg encoding is fast on the core duo |
| 04:26:17 | Phish| | and the clix just doesnt have enough storage |
| 04:26:21 | jba | not if you not registered on freenode though |
| 04:26:31 | skateboard0924 | voltage: What player are you using? |
| 04:26:42 | voltagex | h340 |
| 04:26:56 | skateboard0924 | nice |
| 04:27:18 | voltagex | hope I get decent FPS |
| 04:27:26 | voltagex | it's got a nice screen |
| 04:27:29 | voltagex | not too bad for videos |
| 04:27:34 | skateboard0924 | I can't wait for rockboy support on the H10 along with full video w/ audio support |
| 04:27:53 | voltagex | can't wait for rockboy to get decent FPS :P |
| 04:28:01 | Phish| | how much does that thing cost, voltagex? |
| 04:28:12 | skateboard0924 | haha, true, but at least you have it available |
| 04:28:16 | voltagex | can't wait for rockbox to be supported on a super-player so I can have an N64 emulator |
| 04:28:23 | voltagex | Phish|: $400 from ebay |
| 04:28:29 | skateboard0924 | The price would have gone down by a lot now |
| 04:28:30 | Phish| | wow..... |
| 04:28:33 | skateboard0924 | what??? |
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| 04:28:43 | skateboard0924 | Dude, you got ripped off ha |
| 04:28:48 | voltagex | lol |
| 04:28:53 | voltagex | $400 a year ago |
| 04:29:01 | skateboard0924 | oh... well still |
| 04:29:15 | Phish| | a year ago you could buy a 60gb ipod video for less than that |
| 04:29:17 | skateboard0924 | I got my H10 20 GB about a year and a half ago and it was 300 |
| 04:29:25 | voltagex | now I want a gigabeat |
| 04:29:34 | voltagex | Phish|: stfu ;) |
| 04:29:45 | Phish| | :) |
| 04:29:49 | skateboard0924 | the only thing out that even compared to the H10 was the ipod photo, which wasn't that great at the time |
| 04:30:03 | skateboard0924 | So thats why I bought the H10 :-) |
| 04:30:08 | Phish| | well at least you dont own a zune :) |
| 04:30:18 | voltagex | lol, zuned |
| 04:30:31 | voltagex | any plans for rockbox on zune? |
| 04:30:33 | voltagex | zockbox :P |
| 04:30:38 | skateboard0924 | nope... I read an article on it |
| 04:30:38 | Phish| | LOL |
| 04:30:50 | skateboard0924 | eww... that name sounds ugly |
| 04:30:51 | Phish| | the zune was....ok at best |
| 04:30:59 | Phish| | until the iPhone was previewed |
| 04:31:08 | skateboard0924 | Yea, there was just a huge hype about it |
| 04:31:17 | skateboard0924 | iPhone is too much money |
| 04:31:34 | Phish| | not to mention it wont be iPhone when it gets released |
| 04:31:37 | Phish| | Cisco owns the name |
| 04:31:42 | skateboard0924 | Plus, most people are saying, "Why get an iPhone when I already have an mp3 player and a cell phone?" |
| 04:31:51 | Phish| | and they sued apple 3 days after the product first premiered |
| 04:31:54 | skateboard0924 | Yea, I heard they are getting sued or something like that? |
| 04:32:00 | skateboard0924 | ha, you beat me to it |
| 04:32:03 | skateboard0924 | :-) |
| 04:33:33 | skateboard0924 | How's the gigabeat? |
| 04:33:51 | Phish| | seems to me to be the exact same thing as the zune |
| 04:34:02 | Phish| | except not ugly |
| 04:34:04 | voltagex | whoa, new USB graphic |
| 04:34:21 | Insectoid | How small is Flac compared to ogg? |
| 04:34:31 | voltagex | all we need now is some non sucky themes as default |
| 04:34:59 | Soap | Insectoid: FLAC will be larger than vorbis, as vorbis is lossy and FLAC is lossless. |
| 04:35:05 | skateboard0924 | I want more themes for my H10! |
| 04:35:12 | Phish| | Insectoid: FLAC gives you better audio quality, but at a much larger file size |
| 04:35:15 | Mikachu | flac is usually half size of uncompressed wav |
| 04:35:37 | jba | debauched_slot1: you there? |
| 04:35:45 | Mikachu | ogg is a tenth or so at reasonable bitrates |
| 04:35:45 | voltagex | aaaaaaaaargh |
| 04:35:47 | Insectoid | I think I'll go for ogg then, as I had to go from avi to wav first. |
| 04:36:01 | voltagex | getting "Incompatible version" with my mpeg file |
| 04:36:02 | Soap | why not MP3? |
| 04:36:05 | voltagex | what does that mean? |
| 04:36:14 | Insectoid | ogg's smaller. |
| 04:36:21 | Soap | o |
| 04:36:21 | Soap | k |
| 04:36:21 | Mikachu | never encode to mp3 if you don't have to |
| 04:36:47 | Mikachu | voltagex: that is probably a message about the plugin rather than the file.. |
| 04:36:48 | Soap | yea, never encode with the most mature encoder and most supported format. |
| 04:36:55 | voltagex | Insectoid: pass the crackpipe, ogg and mp3 are very comparable at the same bitrate |
| 04:36:58 | Insectoid | Why don't the voiced menus use oggenc? |
| 04:37:19 | Mikachu | of course you can compare them, and you'll find ogg is better |
| 04:37:21 | Mikachu | :) |
| 04:37:21 | Mikachu | good night |
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| 04:37:56 | robin0800 | good night |
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| 04:38:40 | Soap | all the HA listening tests have showed very small to no quality difference between vorbis and MP3. |
| 04:38:55 | Soap | you trade one set of problem samples for another. |
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| 04:43:12 | Soap | nice process of elimination on the crash, Phish|. |
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| 04:48:48 | voltagex | :( only 16.4 fps |
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| 04:55:31 | Nik | where is the part about dual booting in the manual? |
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| 04:58:27 | Nik | or how do i do it? |
| 05:00 |
| 05:01:44 | Nik | anyone know? |
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| 05:05:33 | Mouser_X | Have you tried the hold button? |
| 05:05:48 | Mouser_X | (Turn on HOLD while booting) |
| 05:05:50 | Nik | will that do it? |
| 05:05:53 | Nik | ok |
| 05:05:54 | Mouser_X | It might. |
| 05:06:00 | Mouser_X | It does for some models. |
| 05:06:08 | Mouser_X | Others do it another way. |
| 05:06:17 | Nik | oh i have a ipod video |
| 05:06:23 | Mouser_X | That helps. |
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| 05:06:35 | Mouser_X | It's possibly why no one answered you. |
| 05:06:44 | Mouser_X | Yes, try turning on HOLD while booting. |
| 05:06:50 | Nik | shit |
| 05:06:54 | Nik | it just cleared everything off |
| 05:07:00 | perldiver | [23:06] <Nik> oh i have a ipod video |
| 05:07:05 | perldiver | [23:06] <Mouser_X> It's possibly why no one answered you. |
| 05:07:10 | perldiver | HAHA |
| 05:07:15 | perldiver | (sorry) |
| 05:07:21 | Mouser_X | Heh, I didn't mean it that way. |
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| 05:07:28 | Nik | thanks man |
| 05:07:33 | Mouser_X | Also, sorry about the settings. |
| 05:07:51 | Nik | dont worry about it |
| 05:07:54 | Nik | anyone else know how to do it? |
| 05:08:17 | Mouser_X | Menu+play? Menu+select? |
| 05:08:19 | perldiver | its in ipodvideoFAQ btw |
| 05:08:24 | Mouser_X | I know it's in there somewhere.. |
| 05:08:33 | Mouser_X | Ah, now there's an idea! |
| 05:08:37 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 05:08:45 | * | Mouser_X doesn't own an iPod... |
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| 05:08:54 | Mouser_X | Probably not the best person to ask... |
| 05:08:56 | Mouser_X | Sorry. |
| 05:08:59 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 05:09:01 | perldiver | Shut the device down by holding PLAY/PAUSE. Then, press MENU or SELECT to boot the iPod. Immediately after doing this, turn on the HOLD switch. |
| 05:09:11 | Nik | ah ok |
| 05:09:13 | Nik | thanks perl |
| 05:09:17 | perldiver | np |
| 05:09:17 | Mouser_X | I was close... |
| 05:09:27 | Nik | haha yea except for the part where i deleted everything off of it |
| 05:09:27 | perldiver | helpful page: |
| 05:09:28 | perldiver | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 05:09:37 | Nik | thanks perl, i was looking for that |
| 05:09:50 | perldiver | somehow people miss it all the time |
| 05:09:50 | Mouser_X | You didn't delete everything off of it. It only reset your stuff. |
| 05:09:55 | Nik | oh ok |
| 05:09:57 | Mouser_X | Settings=gone. Data=not |
| 05:10:06 | Nik | excellent, my pokemon is still here ;D |
| 05:10:16 | Mouser_X | (I don't see how it could have removed all that data so quickly.) |
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| 05:10:23 | Michaellee | hey |
| 05:10:54 | Michaellee | could i have some help installing rockbox on an ipod mini 2g? |
| 05:11:14 | Mouser_X | Probably not. |
| 05:11:19 | Michaellee | lol |
| 05:11:35 | Michaellee | well i installed it but now when it boots, i just get the apple logo |
| 05:11:46 | Michaellee | and a folder that displays a url |
| 05:12:06 | * | Mouser_X knows there's 2 iPods that aren't supported. He's check to see which those are. |
| 05:12:14 | Mouser_X | The 80 GB is one of them. |
| 05:12:21 | Michaellee | i tried the select+menu then select+play and got to disk mode |
| 05:12:24 | Michaellee | it isnt 80g |
| 05:12:29 | Mouser_X | I think it's the 2g Nano that's not supported. |
| 05:12:39 | Michaellee | 4gb |
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| 05:12:59 | Mouser_X | Yes, I can see now that the iPod Mini 2g is supported. |
| 05:13:01 | Mouser_X | Sorry. |
| 05:13:06 | Michaellee | now that im at the disk mode screen, it just says ok to disconnect |
| 05:13:09 | ckahz | |
| 05:13:09 | Michaellee | no problem |
| 05:13:17 | Mouser_X | However, I haven't any idea how to go about installing it, or fixing broken installations. |
| 05:13:30 | Michaellee | ah ok |
| 05:13:37 | Michaellee | umm who could i contact for that? |
| 05:13:52 | Mouser_X | Someone else? |
| 05:13:52 | ckahz | Kim Hyun Chal nim |
| 05:14:12 | Mouser_X | It looks like you'll have to wait for someone else to respond. |
| 05:14:17 | Michaellee | ah ok |
| 05:15:13 | jba | slotho? |
| 05:16:03 | scorche | Michaellee: run disk scan |
| 05:16:12 | scorche | or dosfsck if you are on linux |
| 05:16:59 | Michaellee | im on windows |
| 05:17:03 | Michaellee | kk |
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| 05:19:36 | nixphoeni | how does rockbox set up interrupt handlers? |
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| 05:19:59 | nixphoeni | i can't seem to figure it out |
| 05:20:26 | lotto996 | my nano w/ rockbox just froze up :( and I cant get it to reset, any suggestions? |
| 05:20:52 | Insectoid | And the reset combination doesn't work? |
| 05:20:56 | lotto996 | Ive tried plugging it into my pc, and nothing happens :( |
| 05:21:04 | lotto996 | I dont know the reset combination |
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| 05:21:21 | Insectoid | Happy Monday |
| 05:21:22 | lotto996 | i looked through my rockboxipodnano.pdf manual and I couldnt find anything |
| 05:21:41 | Insectoid | um um |
| 05:21:45 | Insectoid | Well what's wrong with it? |
| 05:22:16 | lotto996 | I ran "star" in the plugin menu on accident, meant to run Starfield, and it froze at that screen and isnt responding |
| 05:23:23 | Insectoid | toggle hold on, then off, then hold down menu and hit select. |
| 05:23:36 | Insectoid | hold down menu and select that is |
| 05:24:17 | lotto996 | akaias: weeeee |
| 05:24:24 | lotto996 | oops, just weeeeeee |
| 05:24:27 | lotto996 | thx alot |
| 05:25:23 | lotto996 | I was worried I would get the frozen app burned into my screen, because I just charged the battery and it would take awhile for it to run out |
| 05:25:44 | lotto996 | buuut that worked Insectoid , soooo thanks! + 5 Stars for you! |
| 05:26:04 | lotto996 | bye |
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| 05:27:00 | Michaellee | lol im swear im gonna change to linux one of these days |
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| 05:27:25 | Michaellee | it said |
| 05:27:31 | Michaellee | 'windows was unable to complete disc check' |
| 05:29:41 | Michaellee | after i ran disc scan |
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| 05:40:30 | rUiSu | hi :) one cuestion, how do i register muself so i can atach a wps? |
| 05:42:53 | Michaellee | I posted my problem on the forums, thanks for the help guys. |
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| 05:57:03 | rUiSu | hello? |
| 05:57:12 | sid | I have 5.5 generation iPod video, 30 gig... which url do I want for setting up rockbox? |
| 05:58:21 | Mouser_X | I'm going to guess the one that refers to the iPod video, maybe? |
| 05:58:27 | sid | Mouser_X: where? |
| 05:58:39 | Mouser_X | In the manuals. |
| 05:58:51 | Mouser_X | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 05:59:51 | sid | thanks |
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| 06:26:23 | sid | "If you wish to use speech support you will also need a language file, available from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VoiceFiles. For the English language, the file is called english.voice. When it has been downloaded, unpack this file and copy it into the lang folder which is inside the /.rockbox folder on your player. Voice menus are turned on by default. See section 7.7 for details on voice settings." |
| 06:27:10 | sid | Mouser_X: There is no /.rockbox/lang directory, there is /.rockbox/langs; do I put the english.voice file there? |
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| 06:30:47 | rUISu | hi, I would like to upload a WPS for the Gigabeat port, can someone give me "permission to edit"? |
| 06:35:27 | midgey | barrywardell: when you get this, please try out task #6539 on your sansa |
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| 06:41:57 | HigherBeing | hey guys, have u tested rockbox with one of iHome radios? |
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| 06:47:55 | combrains | iHome? |
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| 06:49:48 | combrains | can anyone tell me why Suse 10.2 sees my GB as a camera instead of a usb mass storage device? |
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| 06:52:01 | sid | Where am I supposed to put music on my iPod? |
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| 06:52:15 | combrains | anywhere |
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| 06:52:51 | combrains | thats the beauty of RB |
| 06:52:51 | voltagex | sid: if it's anything like rockbox on the H3xx then anywhere. |
| 06:54:01 | sid | I think rhythmbox tries to look for the iTunes database file crap, and if it doesn't find it...I can't transfer music to my rockbox |
| 06:54:18 | voltagex | I doubt it |
| 06:54:49 | sid | I'm pretty sure.(this is what the rhythmbox developers from #rhythmbox on irc.gnome.org told me) |
| 06:54:49 | voltagex | can't you just use nautilis or another file manager? |
| 06:55:14 | sid | voltagex: I guess, I can just do cp -r; but I'm trying to set this up for my gf so it's nice and user friendly |
| 06:55:26 | sid | I wonder her to be able to go into rhythmbox and transfer music easily |
| 06:55:31 | voltagex | sid: use a gui filemanager |
| 06:55:34 | voltagex | that's easy. |
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| 06:55:46 | HigherBeing | does rockbox have an alarm funtion? |
| 06:56:12 | sid | voltagex: I guess. But she can't sift through music as easily in nautilus as she can in rhythmbox |
| 06:56:19 | voltagex | true |
| 06:56:20 | sid | rhythmbox shows all the id3 tag information etc |
| 06:56:25 | voltagex | try amarok or something |
| 06:57:28 | scorche | HigherBeing: on the device that can support it, yes |
| 06:57:33 | scorche | devices |
| 06:58:49 | HigherBeing | well i got an 5g ipod |
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| 06:59:11 | HigherBeing | I got a ihome ipod alarm radio... and I'm trying to make sure it alarms me with the ipod |
| 06:59:21 | HigherBeing | but i'm not sure how to set it up |
| 06:59:58 | HigherBeing | when i set the alarm on the ihome radio, it tries to make the ipod start playing, but i guess it doesnt recognize the command, and instead starts the buzzer that i cant hear for shit in the morning |
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| 07:15:10 | scorche | Rockbox will not work with the ihome units |
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| 07:54:00 | perldiver | finally news on the main page |
| 07:54:02 | perldiver | http://www.mygigabeat.com/ |
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| 08:03:03 | Jsunu | oh hey perldiver, images greater than 16 bit are not support by gigabeat right? |
| 08:03:29 | perldiver | you mean album art? |
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| 08:04:20 | Jsunu | no, the images that make up the wps, like the background, progress bar etc |
| 08:05:30 | perldiver | ah, yes, 16 bit |
| 08:05:41 | perldiver | not more than that |
| 08:05:49 | Jsunu | :( |
| 08:06:08 | perldiver | why :( ? |
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| 08:06:59 | Jsunu | trying to make another wps and it looks horrible with 16 bit |
| 08:07:17 | Insectoid | Call me stupid, but what do I do with a .diff? I'm fine with .patches, but do I have to pass something funny to patch for diffs? |
| 08:07:28 | professional | Its sad to so rockbox falling into the same trap as most open source developing, which is that current software isn't fully developed and De-bugged before moving onto another project, I refer specifiaclly to the start of the AV3xx target when the ipod and other platforms are still buggy, including older targets, this to me typifies open source and its sad to see rockbox isn't excempt from that disease, The |
| 08:07:29 | Jsunu | oh well thanks for the help |
| 08:07:58 | Mouser_X | Jsunu: When I downgraded to 8-bit, it looked fine. Try changing the settings. It might decrease the colors better. |
| 08:08:20 | Jsunu | yeah, probably less gradients |
| 08:08:45 | professional | LinusN: ^^^ |
| 08:08:49 | | Part professional |
| 08:09:06 | scorche | and he leaves before i respond...pfft! |
| 08:09:40 | Mouser_X | professional: What you are completly ignoring, is the fact that the people developing for separate platforms, are doing just that. They're *not* developing for other platforms, nor did they start on other platforms, and it's not likely that they'll move to other platforms. |
| 08:09:41 | Jsunu | thats weird, i saved an image as a 32 bit bmp and it works on the gigabeat :/ |
| 08:09:57 | Mouser_X | Like, in the hardware? |
| 08:10:00 | Jsunu | yup |
| 08:10:05 | Mouser_X | Huh. |
| 08:10:08 | perldiver | Jsunu ha i just read 24 bit is supported |
| 08:10:12 | perldiver | wasnt aware of that |
| 08:10:14 | Jsunu | lol |
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| 08:10:22 | Jsunu | 32 bit apparently works too |
| 08:10:28 | Mouser_X | It said it wasn't supported, where I was reading the stuff... |
| 08:10:29 | Jsunu | maybe it will cause problems down the road |
| 08:10:38 | Mouser_X | Size issues, for one. |
| 08:10:50 | Jsunu | yeah, probably wont load images properly |
| 08:11:08 | Mouser_X | You can only load 16,000 KB of BMPs, total, as I recall. |
| 08:11:34 | Mouser_X | So, you could have 16,000 1 KB images, and it'd be fine (theoretically). |
| 08:11:47 | Jsunu | true |
| 08:11:54 | Mouser_X | Or, 4 4,000 KB images... |
| 08:12:05 | Mouser_X | Obviously, you get the idea. |
| 08:12:13 | daurnimator | not quite? |
| 08:12:14 | Jsunu | im going to try to make a wps chock full of 32bit images |
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| 08:12:18 | Mouser_X | Just saying, watch your size. |
| 08:12:18 | JdGordon | i tink your numberd are wrong... there isnt 16mb of bmp buffer |
| 08:12:29 | Mouser_X | D'oh. |
| 08:12:32 | daurnimator | could you load 3 5333KB images? |
| 08:12:33 | perldiver | well i saw 24 bit support was a patch once |
| 08:12:34 | Mouser_X | Yah, that's not what I meant. |
| 08:12:39 | Mouser_X | I meant 400 |
| 08:12:47 | JdGordon | and the wps loads a max of 26 images anyway |
| 08:12:50 | perldiver | cant really find anything on if it was committed or not |
| 08:12:55 | daurnimator | JdGordon: i'm bored. - any ideas what to do |
| 08:13:01 | daurnimator | nightlife sucks on a monday |
| 08:13:10 | JdGordon | aaww.... na, im bored too |
| 08:13:38 | Insectoid | flite. flite. do flite |
| 08:13:41 | Mouser_X | JdGordon: For your WPS thing, make it so that I can define the location of everything, in pixel coordinates. |
| 08:13:41 | Insectoid | ra ra ra |
| 08:14:12 | Mouser_X | I find it very annoying that I have to rely on spacing to place text fields. |
| 08:14:44 | Mouser_X | And then, on top of that, I can't even specify what size they are. |
| 08:14:55 | Mouser_X | So, add that in as well. |
| 08:14:57 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 08:15:07 | daurnimator | JdGordon: i'd goto a movie, but theres nothing on |
| 08:15:24 | perldiver | why, its so fun to space the things out Mouser_X :P |
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| 08:15:40 | Mouser_X | That is a lie. |
| 08:15:45 | Mouser_X | :P |
| 08:16:29 | Mouser_X | Especially when it won't sit where I expect it to be (it doesn't fit in the text field I have built [out of graphics] for it). |
| 08:16:51 | Mouser_X | (It's too high, and I can't move it down, or it's too low.) |
| 08:17:14 | Mouser_X | I think someone might need to recode the WPS stuff... |
| 08:17:24 | * | Mouser_X knows no coding at all... |
| 08:17:25 | Mouser_X | :( |
| 08:17:42 | scorche | then learn |
| 08:17:51 | Mouser_X | Yes, that'd be the wise thing to do. |
| 08:18:03 | Mouser_X | I never professed to be wise though... |
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| 08:38:32 | Insectoid | extern const struct opt_items trig_durations[TRIG_DURATION_COUNT]; |
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| 08:39:27 | Insectoid | bloody thing |
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| 08:44:44 | BHSPitLappy | hey all. |
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| 09:01:28 | Zagor | FYI: viewvc now works again |
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| 09:15:45 | combrains | hello gotthardt |
| 09:15:54 | gotthardt | hi |
| 09:16:03 | combrains | whats news? |
| 09:16:22 | gotthardt | im trying to get the left and right channels to behave |
| 09:16:44 | combrains | in what sense? |
| 09:16:59 | gotthardt | the left and right channels switch sometimes |
| 09:17:30 | combrains | oh - I thought that that was fixed |
| 09:18:00 | gotthardt | nope - |
| 09:18:12 | gotthardt | at least mine still does it! |
| 09:18:38 | combrains | I cant say that Iv'e noticed it - when does it happen? |
| 09:20:06 | gotthardt | random - pause-play or sometimes on start |
| 09:20:25 | gotthardt | Some songs are noticable - but most you dont notice |
| 09:20:54 | gotthardt | I have a test track which makes it obvious |
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| 09:22:21 | combrains | have you got the track up somehwere? I would like to try |
| 09:23:01 | combrains | I have quite a few tracks that use hard left/right panning and I cant say that I have noticed |
| 09:23:08 | gotthardt | i got it off of: http://www.4horsemen.net/binkster/tracks/track01.zip |
| 09:23:13 | GodEaterWeb | anyone around that can make my new thread on the iPod install forum sticky ? |
| 09:23:31 | combrains | thanks |
| 09:23:49 | BHSPitLappy | anyone here good with WPS's? |
| 09:24:01 | BHSPitLappy | anyone awake, I should say... |
| 09:24:43 | combrains | BHSPitLappy, have you looked on the wiki for your player? |
| 09:25:34 | BHSPitLappy | well, I'm particularly wondering just what visual functions are the rewind and fast forward icons for |
| 09:26:07 | combrains | I don't follow? |
| 09:27:18 | BHSPitLappy | WPS's tend to have icons in them for "<<" and ">> |
| 09:27:19 | BHSPitLappy | ..." |
| 09:27:31 | BHSPitLappy | I don't really get what they're used for |
| 09:27:51 | BHSPitLappy | I get that the Play icon is displayed when the song is playing, Pause is displayed when the song is paused... |
| 09:28:13 | combrains | likewise for ff and rw |
| 09:28:20 | BHSPitLappy | are these other ones just displayed when you're fast-seeking through a song? |
| 09:28:29 | BHSPitLappy | hmm |
| 09:28:58 | BHSPitLappy | then it's odd, how they're usually placed to the sides of the Play/Pause/Stop icon |
| 09:29:20 | combrains | it depends on how the WPS has been coded |
| 09:29:35 | BHSPitLappy | I just mean, design-wise. |
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| 09:30:33 | BHSPitLappy | so there's no real reason to have them located separately from the Play/Pause button, other than to mimic media players on a computer |
| 09:31:31 | combrains | gotthardt, I see what you mean |
| 09:32:12 | gotthardt | its gotta be fixed |
| 09:33:01 | combrains | its not random though - it happens on every pause/resume |
| 09:33:20 | gotthardt | hmm mine does and then doesnt.... |
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| 09:33:36 | gotthardt | or some times does.. random on mine |
| 09:33:45 | combrains | I think it may be left over from the reversal bug that we had on stop |
| 09:34:13 | gotthardt | ? What was the solution to that? |
| 09:34:41 | combrains | I dunno - you fixed it I think... |
| 09:34:46 | * | combrains can't code |
| 09:34:55 | gotthardt | heh - maybe i didnt...! |
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| 09:35:59 | combrains | maybe its a logic error - somthing not being reset? |
| 09:36:12 | GodEaterWeb | hehe - I think Llorean was starting to lose his patience in the forums last night too |
| 09:36:18 | GodEaterWeb | I'm glad it's not just me |
| 09:36:25 | gotthardt | maybe - i havent found it yet |
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| 09:38:22 | webguest77 | hey guys |
| 09:40:02 | webguest77 | I installed rockbox succesfully on my iPod, I already installed a custom build (one supporting the 2nd CPU), some themes and games. |
| 09:40:06 | | Quit kubiix ("Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org") |
| 09:40:14 | webguest77 | but I need some help regarding the bootloader |
| 09:40:23 | webguest77 | anyone? |
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| 09:43:16 | combrains | your right gotthardt, it is random. I can't seen to replicate it accurately in any shape |
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| 09:44:32 | gotthardt | thx for confirming |
| 09:44:41 | combrains | your welcome:P |
| 09:45:20 | combrains | sorry I can't be of more help |
| 09:45:44 | gotthardt | you have been helpful |
| 09:48:25 | combrains | I don't know if this is coincidence but I have come across a patter a couple of times now |
| 09:48:45 | combrains | if the player is stopped and you then start the test file... |
| 09:49:25 | combrains | you press pause, then play, pause, play, pause, play and bang - you have a reversal |
| 09:49:43 | gotthardt | hmm |
| 09:49:48 | combrains | then it seems to revers every time you pause/unpause after that |
| 09:49:58 | gotthardt | thx |
| 09:50:23 | combrains | I will try and verify now - knowing my luck it probably won't work :P |
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| 09:51:12 | combrains | grrrr, I hit A to stop then played the file, pause, then play and WHAM! |
| 09:53:30 | combrains | does this help: if you hit pause halfway through a word then hit play, if it reverses you can hear the end of the last word on the oppisite side |
| 09:53:51 | combrains | which sugests that it reverses on play and not on pause |
| 09:54:02 | gotthardt | ah good |
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| 09:55:54 | combrains | yes, if it it reverses i can hear the 'eft' of left on the right when I hit play |
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| 10:00:57 | gotthardt | cool |
| 10:10:10 | combrains | BTW: did you see my question about suse? |
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| 10:11:20 | gotthardt | no |
| 10:11:31 | combrains | it sees my gb as a camers |
| 10:11:38 | combrains | *camera |
| 10:11:52 | gotthardt | it must have the VID:PID logged incorrectly |
| 10:12:08 | combrains | can I cahnge that? |
| 10:12:09 | gotthardt | or shares it with a camera |
| 10:12:40 | gotthardt | you have to change that and recompile in the core USB - i think |
| 10:12:54 | combrains | I have suse in a VM and the only USB device I have connected is my GB |
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| 10:13:05 | gotthardt | type dmesg |
| 10:13:17 | gotthardt | what usb vid:pid do you get? |
| 10:13:29 | Mikachu | preglow: have you tried freemat? just saw it on freshmeat, might be useful or something |
| 10:13:34 | combrains | one sec - lemme start the VM |
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| 10:24:39 | combrains | usb1-1 new device found: idVendor=0930 idProduct=0009 |
| 10:25:19 | gotthardt | so someone said that a camera was vendor 930 and pid 9 |
| 10:25:27 | gotthardt | might be a mistake |
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| 10:26:27 | gotthardt | you need to find the source for the usb modules and then: grep -R 930 * |
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| 10:27:38 | combrains | is this as in kernel source? |
| 10:27:57 | enko | Hello people |
| 10:27:59 | * | combrains is somewhat of a linux noob |
| 10:28:19 | gotthardt | combrains: yes |
| 10:28:34 | gotthardt | 0930 is toshiba |
| 10:29:33 | enko | Can someone talk to me in private. It's about whether rockbox works on the iitronics imp-11 mp3 player |
| 10:31:01 | scorche | it doesnt |
| 10:31:46 | enko | ok. Thanks for the help |
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| 10:49:16 | linuxstb_ | GodEaterWeb: I've stickied your thread, but IMO it would be better as a link to a wiki page - so others can edit it. |
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| 10:51:54 | jba | hey gang |
| 10:51:58 | dune2 | gotthardt: the VID:PID is the gigabeat original one ?? |
| 10:52:41 | dune2 | gotthardt: because, on the http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids, I don't see 0009 product ..... |
| 10:52:41 | jba | hey guys |
| 10:52:53 | * | jba builds from svn to see if that will boot |
| 10:53:01 | gotthardt | hi jba |
| 10:53:01 | GodEaterWeb | linuxstb_: I can't edit the wiki atm - my password went awol, and neither Bagder nor LinusN have had a chance to reset it for me |
| 10:53:10 | gotthardt | bedtime for me here... |
| 10:53:13 | jba | hey gotthardt, how goes? |
| 10:53:22 | GodEaterWeb | besides, there's nothing stopping people adding their own comments |
| 10:53:44 | gotthardt | ok - im trying to fix the left-right channel swap - i think its in the i2s now |
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| 10:55:27 | gotthardt | dune2 i think is orig since we dont replace it just sence it and 'move aside' while the usb bridges to disk |
| 10:57:19 | jba | gotthardt, left/right switch, didn't know there was one |
| 10:57:42 | gotthardt | its random - and for most songs you dont notice |
| 10:58:07 | dune2 | gotthardt: ha ok, I've looked at the list but I did not found another more generic (and well-known) productID of toshiba which is Usb-Mass-Storage .... (for easyer OS detection as UMS) |
| 10:58:57 | gotthardt | jba play this and press pause-play http://www.4horsemen.net/binkster/tracks/track01.zip |
| 10:59:18 | jba | gotthardt, do you really need the test case? |
| 10:59:26 | gotthardt | i do |
| 10:59:37 | jba | okay will do |
| 10:59:45 | jba | one sec just did make very clean on bootloader and rb |
| 10:59:48 | jba | leme get that working firs |
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| 11:05:13 | jba | hey guys, FYI, rockbox built from svn on my dev platform worked fine |
| 11:05:28 | jba | i also updated the bootloader which is larger than the one attached to the gigabeat wiki page |
| 11:06:13 | linuxstb_ | Which version of binutils do you have? (e.g. type arm-elf ld -v) |
| 11:06:20 | linuxstb_ | arm-elf-ld -v |
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| 11:07:11 | jba | GNU ld version 2.16.1 |
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| 11:07:23 | jba | gotthardt, i get left out of the left speajer, and right out of right speaker |
| 11:07:37 | jba | aahaah |
| 11:07:45 | jba | if i pause in the middle, then the left stream comes out the right speajer |
| 11:07:47 | jba | hmmm |
| 11:07:58 | debauched_slot1 | jba: the build on the web page did not work and the one you did locally does? |
| 11:08:08 | jba | debauched_slot1, yep |
| 11:08:21 | debauched_slot1 | yes, there have been a few reports of that, also for ipods |
| 11:08:26 | markun | debauched_slot1: could you test and maybe commit http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6519 ? |
| 11:08:32 | markun | bon jour btw :) |
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| 11:08:52 | gotthardt | hey markun |
| 11:09:00 | jba | hey hey markun man |
| 11:09:17 | jba | debauched_slot1, how effective is the change in battery curves ? |
| 11:09:20 | jba | that's why i updated |
| 11:09:26 | debauched_slot1 | markun: where do I get the wads? |
| 11:09:53 | debauched_slot1 | jba: I took it from one of the more recent runs. Needs more testing. |
| 11:09:59 | markun | debauched_slot1: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
| 11:10:04 | jba | hey gotthardt if i pause and resume, the left/right is transposed, but if i do it a second time, the speakers don't transpose back |
| 11:10:05 | Jakeworld | is anyone else having problems with the newer ipod builds? |
| 11:10:17 | debauched_slot1 | but it should be more closer to in range; if anything I think it errs on the cautious side now |
| 11:10:18 | Jakeworld | i can't get anything to load above january 12 |
| 11:10:29 | gotthardt | jba i have found it to be random |
| 11:10:42 | jba | hmm |
| 11:10:47 | jba | also i have pause to fade |
| 11:10:51 | jba | that might be it? |
| 11:10:57 | markun | linuxstb_: I don't agree with "professional" that adding more ports is bad for rockbox |
| 11:11:06 | gotthardt | maybe you can find a pattern |
| 11:11:18 | jba | that sample is too short |
| 11:11:26 | gotthardt | true |
| 11:11:40 | jba | shit you're right |
| 11:11:47 | jba | the switch worked on the second pause this time |
| 11:11:48 | jba | hmm |
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| 11:13:05 | amiconn | markun: Adding more ports is good in general - as long as these ports are really worked on |
| 11:13:12 | linuxstb_ | markun: I don't know what you're talking about... |
| 11:13:20 | amiconn | The Elio port seems almost abandoned, for instance... |
| 11:13:58 | linuxstb_ | I admit that... Although is it better to remove it or leave it? There seems a tiny bit of interest in the Elio port on the Forums. |
| 11:15:16 | markun | linuxstb_: I was talking about something I read in the logs by someone with the nick "professional" |
| 11:15:27 | linuxstb_ | This morning? |
| 11:15:28 | amiconn | Well, my opinion is that the purpose of adding ports is to bring them up to a usable state |
| 11:15:39 | gotthardt | jba - taking off fade seems to make things better for my testing - thats a good lead |
| 11:15:39 | amiconn | Otherwise they should be removed again to reduce clutter |
| 11:16:00 | jba | gotthardt, np, let me verify |
| 11:17:03 | jba | gotthardt, nope, i still managed to confuse it |
| 11:17:25 | jba | off the start pause half way through the first "left" and the "right" comes through the left speajer |
| 11:17:37 | gotthardt | i have a little different pause i wrote - this seems to work |
| 11:17:43 | jba | hmm |
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| 11:17:56 | gotthardt | it might start wrong but it is fixed for the pause-play |
| 11:18:23 | Jakeworld | oh well... i guess january 12 is apparently the only working build for now |
| 11:18:44 | markun | Jakeworld: did you update the bootloader? |
| 11:18:55 | Jakeworld | has it been updated recently? |
| 11:18:59 | gotthardt | void pcm_play_pause_pause(void) |
| 11:19:01 | gotthardt | { |
| 11:19:02 | gotthardt | INTMSK |= (1<<19); |
| 11:19:03 | Jakeworld | i've used the newest i can find |
| 11:19:04 | gotthardt | while (IISCON & (1<<7)) ; |
| 11:19:05 | markun | Jakeworld: yes |
| 11:19:10 | gotthardt | void pcm_play_pause_unpause(void) |
| 11:19:12 | gotthardt | { |
| 11:19:14 | gotthardt | INTMSK &= ~(1<<19); |
| 11:19:23 | Jakeworld | i'm using the december 20 version |
| 11:19:28 | hcs | yay, got spc playing |
| 11:19:33 | debauched_slot1 | markun: jakeworld has an ipod |
| 11:19:44 | gotthardt | waits for the FIFO to empty |
| 11:19:45 | debauched_slot1 | I STILL think the build server is generating bad builds |
| 11:20:04 | markun | debauched_slot1: oops :) |
| 11:20:28 | jba | debauched_slot1, i agree |
| 11:20:34 | markun | Jakeworld: ignore me, thought you were talking about a gigabeat |
| 11:20:37 | Jakeworld | ya, i understand there can be issues with the ipod especially, i was just wondering if anyone knew better, but I'm fine with an older build for now |
| 11:20:50 | Jakeworld | no prob, thanks for trying |
| 11:21:22 | debauched_slot1 | jba: there have been a number of reports of issues loading rockbox, across more than one platform |
| 11:21:55 | jba | sloth i should have tried the latest bootloader from my svn with the version of the rockbox.gigiabeat on the build server |
| 11:22:32 | debauched_slot1 | jba: bet it fails. though I have not looked |
| 11:22:43 | markun | gotthardt, debauched_slot1: did anyone try if video playback with audio works at 200MHz? |
| 11:22:48 | debauched_slot1 | I knew the new bootloader would be a problem but hopefully we will not have to do this again |
| 11:22:52 | gotthardt | not i |
| 11:23:01 | debauched_slot1 | nor I |
| 11:23:33 | * | jba has he first 11 episodes of heroes on his gigabeat at the same time |
| 11:23:48 | gotthardt | nice |
| 11:24:02 | debauched_slot1 | very addictive show there |
| 11:24:16 | jba | yeah it is, specially since it hasn't even came out in the .au yet |
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| 11:24:40 | jba | gotthardt / debauched_slot1, you guys done with me for now? getting tired |
| 11:24:57 | gotthardt | heh - i gotta go to - thanks jba |
| 11:25:07 | jba | glad to have been of assistance |
| 11:25:17 | jba | night mate |
| 11:25:21 | debauched_slot1 | all set, thanks and good night all |
| 11:25:25 | w1ll14m|work | sleep wel ;) |
| 11:25:30 | w1ll14m|work | well* |
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| 11:28:21 | linuxstb_ | markun: I think someone tested mpegplayer and it was only giving around 29fps for a 320x240 video if you remove the frame limiting. So it would probably struggle at 200MHz. |
| 11:31:01 | markun | linuxstb_: didn't think of that test. the 16:9 version of Elefants Dream gives about 39fps |
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| 11:34:04 | Febs | linuxstb_: do you know whether the "20GB 4G Ipod" listed here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodInstallationFromMacOSX#Convert_an_iPod_from_HFS_to_FAT3 is the correct partition table for a 20GB photo? |
| 11:37:05 | BHSPitLappy | can someone explain the Progress Bar aspect of WPSs to me, please? |
| 11:37:20 | BHSPitLappy | I can't for the life of me understand its conventions |
| 11:39:20 | amiconn | The strange thing is that behaviour isn't consistent |
| 11:39:36 | BHSPitLappy | (@me?) |
| 11:39:56 | amiconn | I didn't observe hanging boot on ipod yet, but problems switching to diskmode seem to come and go |
| 11:40:21 | amiconn | ...even when building on the very same machine, with no changes to the usb related code inbetween |
| 11:40:51 | linuxstb_ | Febs: It's probably worth a try, but I wouldn't guarantee it. It depends if the hard drives have exactly the same geometry. |
| 11:41:17 | linuxstb_ | markun: If you do some tests on the Gigabeat, can you add them to the PluginMpegplayer wiki page? |
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| 11:42:47 | BigBambi | Slasheri, there? |
| 11:42:56 | markun | linuxstb_: ok |
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| 12:06:16 | * | petur asks tvelocity to stop the script |
| 12:06:27 | tvelocity | k sorry |
| 12:07:03 | hcs | is anyone around who might be interested in guiding my NSF player into SVN? |
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| 12:33:19 | senab | does anyone know is it safe to delete the dir 'build-rbdev' after installing the cross compiler? |
| 12:33:28 | JdGordon | very |
| 12:33:36 | senab | thought so |
| 12:33:43 | senab | just wanted to make sure |
| 12:33:59 | JdGordon | and the tmp dir |
| 12:34:22 | JdGordon | Bagder: you around? |
| 12:34:57 | senab | had to do it via sudo though |
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| 12:35:17 | JdGordon | it had root privelages when it was run... |
| 12:35:36 | senab | that was making me think you couldn't delete it |
| 12:35:57 | senab | then i thought it need root proviledge to install |
| 12:36:13 | senab | well thats freed up 500mb |
| 12:36:17 | JdGordon | :) |
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| 12:47:37 | senab | i've made a deb of wxwidgets 2.8, do you think it's worth putting it on the rbutil page? |
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| 12:57:47 | linuxstb_ | senab: Some .deb packages for Ubuntu dapper are available here: http://apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/ - I don't know if they would work with Debian though. |
| 12:58:22 | senab | they're only for dapper though |
| 12:58:39 | senab | there are some for edgy64 but not 32 |
| 12:59:52 | senab | the dapper ones would probably work though |
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| 13:06:36 | norbusan | Hi all! Is there some devel around which knows the power.c stuff? |
| 13:08:57 | linuxstb_ | It's best to just ask your question and see if anyone can answer. |
| 13:09:34 | norbusan | Ok, you may know the problem with "Always connected to power source" players. There are only a few of them, but they cannot be turned off properly. |
| 13:09:51 | norbusan | http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46307 |
| 13:10:03 | norbusan | and http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=26516) |
| 13:11:14 | norbusan | Now in the first link I sent there is a patch which helps those guys (and breaks for others). I volunteered to build a rockbox bin file for those guys and wanted to include the patch, but it does not apply at all, and searching through the source code showed no traces at all of the code changed. So I am lost. This is the patch: |
| 13:11:24 | norbusan | −−- rockbox-bleeding/firmware/drivers/power.c 2006-08-29 00:39:28.000000000 +0200 +++ rockbox-devel/firmware/drivers/power.c 2006-09-06 14:35:00.000000000 +0200 @@ -109,8 +109,10 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_CHARGING bool charger_inserted(void) { -#if defined(IRIVER_H100_SERIES) || defined(IRIVER_H300_SERIES) +#if defined(IRIVER_H100_SERIES) return (GPIO1_READ & 0x00400000)?true:false; +#elif defined(IRIVER_H300_SERIES) + return charging_st |
| 13:11:34 | Llorean | Pasting a patch into the channel isn't really a good idea. |
| 13:11:35 | norbusan | Uuups, damned c&p ... |
| 13:12:12 | Llorean | Are you having trouble finding charger_inserted, I'm guessing? |
| 13:12:19 | norbusan | It is really simple, it changed only for H300 the return (GPIO1_READ & 0x00400000)?true:false; to return charging_state(); |
| 13:12:36 | norbusan | Thats all. Unfortunately there have been quite a lot of changes in the power.c file ... |
| 13:12:49 | linuxstb_ | You probably want to look in the target-tree code - firmware/target/coldfire/iriver/h300/ |
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| 13:13:21 | linuxstb_ | The target-tree directories are relatively new, and code is being slowly migrated there. |
| 13:13:33 | norbusan | Ahhhh ... thanks, found it .... |
| 13:14:04 | norbusan | I will make a build for those stucked with this problem. It seems to be some hardware problem or whatever. I does not cost me much to do a build ... Thanks. |
| 13:14:09 | linuxstb_ | If you fix your patch, you should post it to the patch tracker - developers won't find it hidden on the misticriver forums... |
| 13:14:29 | norbusan | Well as said, it breaks for ALL OTHER H300 users! |
| 13:14:44 | Llorean | We're in Popular Science1 |
| 13:14:49 | Llorean | That's why there's all the new people!. |
| 13:15:01 | linuxstb_ | Is it a bug in Rockbox, or a hardware failure the patch works around? |
| 13:15:47 | linuxstb_ | i.e. does the original firmware also have problems on those devices? |
| 13:15:51 | norbusan | hardware failure it works around: with this patch if the battery is fully charged the iriver firmware believes that the player is disconnected and turns off. after this it turns on automatically into the original firmware. |
| 13:16:02 | norbusan | yes, the original firmware also has this problem. |
| 13:16:15 | linuxstb_ | Ah, OK. |
| 13:16:27 | GodEaterWeb | Popular Science 1 ? |
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| 13:16:33 | norbusan | Its just that otherwise you cannot turn off the player without a paperclip |
| 13:16:34 | Llorean | GodEaterWeb: Typo. |
| 13:16:39 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: Is the article online? |
| 13:16:51 | GodEaterWeb | that was going to be my next question :) |
| 13:16:52 | Llorean | linuxstb_: It's in the print magazine in the How 2.0 section, I'm about to go digging |
| 13:17:11 | linuxstb_ | What an odd section name... |
| 13:18:06 | * | Llorean shrugs |
| 13:18:14 | Llorean | Doesn't look like it's on the site |
| 13:18:31 | Llorean | I imagine it'll show up at some later date, say once next issue is in the stands or something |
| 13:18:45 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it looks like that kind of site. |
| 13:19:08 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Someone mentioned the article in our Forums. |
| 13:19:11 | Llorean | I haven't seen it yet. |
| 13:19:30 | Llorean | I'm going to be about 5 feet from a Newsstand that has it in about 6 hours, so I'll probably pick one up and see what I have to look forward to. |
| 13:19:52 | scorche | I was about to mention that |
| 13:20:02 | scorche | I have it in front of me |
| 13:20:31 | * | GodEaterWeb wonders if they botched the install instructions in the article |
| 13:20:38 | scorche | they did |
| 13:20:52 | GodEaterWeb | can we write them a stinging email rejoinder then ? :) |
| 13:21:03 | scorche | and it is rated Easy -|−−- Hard |
| 13:21:04 | GodEaterWeb | RTFM kind of thing but in longer words |
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| 13:21:23 | GodEaterWeb | scorche: well it *is* easy - but only if you've got the right instructions! |
| 13:21:40 | linuxstb_ | scorche: What devices do they focus on? |
| 13:21:48 | GodEaterWeb | I'm guessing iPod |
| 13:21:54 | scorche | !. Download the Rockbox software for your audio player at rockbox.org/download (the site provides detailed instructions) |
| 13:21:55 | GodEaterWeb | given the number of posts there in the forum :) |
| 13:21:58 | scorche | all devices |
| 13:22:06 | GodEaterWeb | oh lord |
| 13:22:15 | Llorean | scorche: Is this the 01/07 issue or is PopSci one of those magazines where you've got 02/07 in your hands already? |
| 13:22:16 | GodEaterWeb | best gear up for the bricked H1xx threads then |
| 13:22:29 | scorche | then it says connect the player so it appears as a disc rather than a media device |
| 13:22:32 | Llorean | GodEaterWeb: H100s are hard to brick. |
| 13:22:38 | linuxstb_ | I thought 03/07 would be out by now.... |
| 13:22:41 | scorche | Llorean: 2/07 |
| 13:22:46 | Llorean | Well, they're ridiculously brickable, but they're hard to brick with our install method. |
| 13:22:56 | scorche | then extract the zip |
| 13:23:04 | scorche | wait wait...here is the kicker! |
| 13:23:11 | * | GodEaterWeb is on tenterhooks |
| 13:23:22 | scorche | 4. Go to rockbox.org/twiki to add new functions |
| 13:23:37 | GodEaterWeb | oh dear... |
| 13:24:02 | scorche | then on the side under the heading Play games and more: |
| 13:24:35 | scorche | Go to rockbox.org/twiki to get PacMan and other classics, as well as a text editor and screensavers. |
| 13:24:58 | GodEaterWeb | well thank you very much inaccurate magazine of the year 2007 |
| 13:25:04 | linuxstb_ | That seems a unique collection of inaccuracies though... |
| 13:25:33 | GodEaterWeb | it's like the writer got halfway through and then couldn't be bothered to finish it |
| 13:25:41 | * | Llorean repeats his wish that magazines actually contacted a project before writing about it. |
| 13:25:52 | GodEaterWeb | get to stage X, and then go bother these people for more stuff because I can't be bothered to explain any more |
| 13:25:54 | scorche | then under the heading Watch Movies: Download Mpegplayer at (the wiki link again) to convert just about any video to a viewable format. To see photos, get a plug-in called Jpeg. |
| 13:26:22 | linuxstb_ | Do they get anything right? |
| 13:26:36 | Llorean | Oh dear. |
| 13:26:45 | Llorean | Instructions somewhere that actually SAY mpegplayer must be downloaded.\ |
| 13:26:49 | GodEaterWeb | who's going to write them the stinky email ? |
| 13:27:01 | Llorean | GodEaterWeb: If you don't mind, I'd really like to do it. |
| 13:27:06 | linuxstb_ | Someone just forward this IRC log... |
| 13:27:07 | GodEaterWeb | not at all |
| 13:27:11 | Llorean | I'm definitely picking up an issue later today |
| 13:27:19 | GodEaterWeb | it's a magazine from your great nation - not mine :) |
| 13:27:34 | Llorean | And I plan to write a full, well spoken description of not only what they got wrong, but the tech support nightmare it's going to cause us. |
| 13:27:37 | scorche | Fine-Tune Audio: Adjust a song's bass, treble, balance and even pitch - or use the karaoke function to mute vocals. |
| 13:27:46 | scorche | they dont even mention the EQ or crossfade... |
| 13:27:46 | GodEaterWeb | although in general I find US magazines far more informative than UK ones |
| 13:27:55 | GodEaterWeb | I stopped buying the linux ones here - they're dreadful |
| 13:27:56 | Llorean | I want to, if at all possible, explain to them the *damage* not only to our ability to provide support, but possibly to user's players, their misinformation could cause. |
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| 13:28:20 | scorche | Llorean: post versions in the ml so we can all enjoy =) |
| 13:28:25 | GodEaterWeb | we have a Karaoke function ? |
| 13:28:31 | GodEaterWeb | that's a new one on me |
| 13:28:48 | bluebrother | Llorean: is the article available online? |
| 13:28:48 | Llorean | bluebrother: Not that I could find. |
| 13:28:48 | scorche | bluebrother: not yet |
| 13:28:56 | scorche | that is why i am typing the article...heh |
| 13:29:03 | bluebrother | ah :) |
| 13:29:04 | GodEaterWeb | scorche: could you scan it ? |
| 13:29:10 | Llorean | scorche: Aye, when I send the email, I'll forward it. |
| 13:29:11 | scorche | sure |
| 13:29:33 | bluebrother | maybe we should add a BadArticlesAboutRockbox page ;-) |
| 13:29:40 | GodEaterWeb | hehe - yeah |
| 13:29:42 | scorche | oh...and apparently the archos devices can do EVERYTHING an iPod can do |
| 13:29:51 | GodEaterWeb | or another box next to sponsors : "Not helped at all by these people" |
| 13:30:05 | Genre9mp3 | GodEaterWeb: the Karoke function removes all sound that is the same in both channels |
| 13:30:17 | GodEaterWeb | neat - I'll have to read up on that one |
| 13:30:47 | scorche | i need to find the power cord to my scanner... |
| 13:30:53 | * | GodEaterWeb 's typing fingers are sore after the lengthy 80G post he made on the forums |
| 13:31:18 | Llorean | GodEaterWeb: I'm not entirely sure the karaoke function works on many targets right now, though |
| 13:31:41 | GodEaterWeb | well my only working target is my battery deficient H140 so I've not had a chance to actually USE rockbox for months :( |
| 13:32:49 | amiconn | Llorean: Karaoke should work on all targets |
| 13:33:00 | GodEaterWeb | not that I'd have used the Karaoke function - I'm not proud of my singing voice :) |
| 13:33:15 | GodEaterWeb | and I get on well with neighbours currently |
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| 13:33:37 | Llorean | amiconn: I remember for a while it wasn't working on SWCodec, and I didn't remember if that ever got fixed. |
| 13:33:49 | Llorean | amiconn: If it is, then good. :) |
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| 13:35:52 | scorche | found the power cord...just a sec while i scan it in |
| 13:37:09 | amiconn | Llorean: preglow implemented stereo width which also makes karaoke working months ago |
| 13:37:45 | Llorean | amiconn: Ah, I didn't know the two were related. Thank you. |
| 13:37:57 | amiconn | Karaoke is basically a stereo width of infinity |
| 13:41:57 | GodEaterWeb | amiconn: http://www.t13.org/Documents/UploadedDocuments/technical/d98102r2.pdf <−− has a possible explanation of having bits 7-0 set to zero on word 47 in the 80G's identity info. It looks like historically this indicated read/write multiple was disabled. |
| 13:43:41 | scorche | here is the article so none of you go out and buy the issue: http://download.yousendit.com/69A90F00608FD2AF |
| 13:44:13 | scorche | sorry about the size...i just wanted to get it in |
| 13:44:26 | GodEaterWeb | thanks scorche :) |
| 13:45:16 | GodEaterWeb | good lord - is that it ? One page ? |
| 13:45:40 | scorche | yup |
| 13:45:53 | scorche | about a third, really |
| 13:45:56 | GodEaterWeb | Are there any targets which *don't* include a zip file in the download ? |
| 13:46:06 | scorche | no |
| 13:47:12 | GodEaterWeb | so their "if the download includes a .zip file" is completely superfluous and misleading |
| 13:47:41 | scorche | or just them covering themselves because they didnt do any research |
| 13:48:01 | GodEaterWeb | which they clearly didn't |
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| 13:50:01 | scorche | they could have just copied WhyRockbox and had a better article |
| 13:51:21 | scorche | Llorean: if you missed the link above... |
| 13:52:18 | Llorean | scorche: I've read the article |
| 13:52:28 | Llorean | I'm now trying to find contact details for Associate Editor Doug Cantor |
| 13:52:47 | scorche | they also say in here that the ety8 wireless IEMs have better-than-wired sound quality... |
| 13:53:08 | bluebrother | "if the download included .zip files" |
| 13:53:10 | bluebrother | LOL |
| 13:53:20 | bluebrother | wow, that acticle is really bad. |
| 13:53:44 | scorche | haha...i totally missed that he was the associate editor |
| 13:53:50 | bluebrother | one could think RB enables you to record from the radio even on ipod ... only they don't have a radio |
| 13:54:01 | Llorean | scorche: I only discovered that by stumbling across his name in their "What the editors want for Christmas" of a few years back. |
| 13:54:14 | markun | Llorean: I try to talk only about non rockbox stuff in #gigabeat. Hardware mods etc |
| 13:54:50 | Llorean | markun: That's fine. As I said, the only real request I have is that no matter how easy the question is, tell them they should come here first if it's a Rockbox question, so they get in the habit of asking here first. :) |
| 13:55:04 | petur | Llorean: I think you'd better write to his superior... |
| 13:55:23 | scorche | Llorean: yeah..i was just going to say CC it to someone above him |
| 13:55:33 | Llorean | petur: So far the only contact point I've found that's even *remotely* close is the "Letters to the Editor" column, which isn't exactly what I want. |
| 13:56:06 | scorche | i see Editorial Director: Scott Mowbray and Executive Editor: Michael Moyer |
| 13:56:15 | | Part norbusan |
| 13:56:53 | Llorean | scorche: Contact information for either of those somewhere? Are you looking at a webpage? |
| 13:57:08 | petur | he seems to be on LinkedIn but not open to receiving anything |
| 13:57:27 | scorche | Llorean: no...the required part by law on the magazine |
| 13:57:42 | Llorean | scorche: Ah, gotcha. |
| 13:57:59 | scorche | there is popsci.com/customerservice , but i dont know where that will take you |
| 13:58:29 | Llorean | scorche: Issues for customers, like subscription status |
| 13:58:40 | scorche | thought so |
| 13:58:46 | scorche | but you never know... |
| 13:58:51 | Llorean | I checked. |
| 13:59:37 | Llorean | I'm somewhat astonished they managed to pack that many support nightmares in that little space. |
| 13:59:39 | bluebrother | gtg |
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| 14:00:16 | scorche | it almost like they would have to try to achieve that level |
| 14:00:29 | scorche | s/it/it is |
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| 14:00:34 | Genre9mp3 | This article contradicts to the term "Science" that this magazine has in title... pity |
| 14:02:04 | scorche | Genre9mp3: a shame they used boxes instead of iCatcher, eh? ;) |
| 14:02:20 | Genre9mp3 | haha |
| 14:02:55 | hcs | they could have openly stated it can be installed on iPods... but then there'd be a lot more misdirected people |
| 14:03:12 | Llorean | hcs: They did mention briefly that there's an iPod version |
| 14:03:34 | hcs | ok, my mistake |
| 14:03:58 | hcs | this is why I'm not an editor |
| 14:04:00 | Llorean | But the article does sound like it's not for iPods overall. |
| 14:05:20 | Genre9mp3 | Does anyone remember this thread? : http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=7383.0 |
| 14:06:10 | Llorean | Genre9mp3: And you found me my first email address. |
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| 14:09:04 | scorche | Genre9mp3: perhaps we should have baited him into checking things other than details that were not used for the article =/ |
| 14:09:38 | linuxstb_ | I see he never came back to the forums after that post... |
| 14:09:58 | linuxstb_ | I mean after his last post. |
| 14:10:07 | Genre9mp3 | To tell you the truth, judging from the question he made I thought he was working on a more detailed article... but unfortunately this wasn't the case |
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| 14:10:21 | linuxstb_ | Maybe it started that way, but was heavily cut. |
| 14:10:29 | scorche | and it was a person other than the listed author |
| 14:10:40 | scorche | intern gathering details maybe |
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| 14:11:28 | scorche | honestly, i am happy it wasnt longer |
| 14:12:05 | petur | :) |
| 14:12:07 | Llorean | http://pastebin.ca/317272 |
| 14:12:17 | Llorean | How's that look for contacting the "Fact Checker" from the wiki? |
| 14:12:21 | Llorean | Err forums |
| 14:12:40 | scorche | that was quick |
| 14:12:49 | Llorean | I haven't sent it yet. |
| 14:13:31 | scorche | how are you sending it? |
| 14:13:43 | Llorean | By email to the gmail address for Bill from the forums. |
| 14:13:50 | linuxstb_ | s/lead/led/ (in the first paragraph) |
| 14:13:59 | Llorean | Even if he's not an intern there now, he might have useful contact information |
| 14:14:04 | linuxstb_ | (or am I wrong?...) |
| 14:14:17 | scorche | Llorean: unable to find any other contact info for the other 3 people named? |
| 14:14:35 | scorche | linuxstb_: you are correct |
| 14:14:36 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I think you're right. |
| 14:14:42 | Llorean | scorche: Not so far, no. |
| 14:15:16 | hcs | *but also do not, on first line (still dealing with plural) |
| 14:15:26 | hcs | er, second line |
| 14:15:36 | scorche | Llorean: the "great influx of a question" sentence sounds odd...rephrase? |
| 14:16:03 | Llorean | hcs: Changed it to a new sentence replacing "But" with "It" |
| 14:16:33 | Llorean | scorche: create a "great increase in a type of a questions "? |
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| 14:17:37 | scorche | makeyour plurals agree, and that sounds better |
| 14:18:10 | Llorean | type of question |
| 14:18:12 | Llorean | There |
| 14:19:13 | Llorean | Alright, I'm sending it, hopefully I can get a little more useful information as to who to contact next. |
| 14:19:30 | Llorean | While bad articles are one thing, this one shows no signs of real research at all. |
| 14:19:35 | * | scorche hopes he comes back with a useful response |
| 14:19:54 | Llorean | I fully expect it to come back with a "Dude, I don't work there any more" |
| 14:20:10 | GodEaterWeb | or "So what? I still got my cheque" |
| 14:20:32 | * | scorche places his bet on a response that doesnt give other contact addresses to cover one's bottom |
| 14:21:14 | scorche | GodEaterWeb: he is more likely to type check ;) |
| 14:21:43 | GodEaterWeb | probably :) |
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| 14:22:24 | GodEaterWeb | but I'm not compromising my spelling to keep you the fellas on the wrong side of the Atlantic happy :) |
| 14:22:25 | Llorean | scorche: If he says "I can't give away X's email address" I'll say "Then please forward my email to him." |
| 14:23:04 | scorche | i was expecting something more along the lines of "i'll take care of this...dont worry...etc" |
| 14:23:14 | scorche | and then him not |
| 14:23:48 | Llorean | Possible |
| 14:24:01 | Llorean | I'm tempted to hunt for a contact phone number for the PopSci officies. |
| 14:26:05 | GodEaterWeb | shouldn't that be printed in the magazine ? |
| 14:26:21 | Genre9mp3 | I have lost faith on PC mags... I remember once buying a greek PC mag because it was coming with a 100+ page guide titled "The Ultimate Hack/Tweak guide for iPods" (free translation). I bought it because I expecting at least something about Rockbox... well, there wasn't a single page for Rockbox on that "Ultimate" guide..pffff |
| 14:26:40 | Llorean | GodEaterWeb: Probably |
| 14:26:46 | scorche | it isnt |
| 14:26:51 | scorche | i see a fax though |
| 14:26:56 | scorche | and an address |
| 14:27:15 | Llorean | Hmph |
| 14:27:37 | scorche | there is a number for the customer service line |
| 14:27:49 | Llorean | I doubt that'd be too useful though. |
| 14:27:54 | * | Genre9mp3 assumes that Popular Science is indeed a poular mag (?) |
| 14:28:01 | scorche | might as well give it an effort |
| 14:28:07 | scorche | Genre9mp3: it is |
| 14:28:12 | Llorean | Genre9mp3: It's widely enough read for me to be genuinely worried about the impact of this. |
| 14:28:22 | Genre9mp3 | I see... |
| 14:28:37 | Llorean | scorche: I'm going to pick up a copy of the magazine myself anyway, so I'll probably try all of the contact information in it when I do. |
| 14:28:55 | scorche | no need to waste the 4$... |
| 14:29:44 | Llorean | Nah, I wanted to give it to my dad. He'll end up terribly excited that Rockbox is in it, so it'll be a fun little thing to do. |
| 14:29:52 | scorche | ah |
| 14:30:31 | scorche | I just got the magazine today (more probably yesterday), so hopefully we can wait a few before we see the impact |
| 14:30:47 | scorche | in the mail that is |
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| 14:32:46 | scorche | my parents dont approve of me "wasting my time" with Rockbox... |
| 14:33:16 | Llorean | Honestly, I doubt that "fact checker" will respond, since it's pretty clear my point is how poorly the facts were checked. |
| 14:33:30 | scorche | Llorean: hence my guess |
| 14:33:45 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: Have you sent it yet? |
| 14:33:59 | Llorean | Then again, it's possible that the current article doesn't resemble what he worked on at all, in which case he might out of spite. |
| 14:34:06 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Yes. |
| 14:34:15 | Llorean | I'm still looking for better contact addresses though. |
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| 14:34:34 | linuxstb_ | Ah, OK. I was going to suggest simply asking him for a contact, without telling him your grievances... |
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| 14:34:46 | KCC | Congrats on Rockbox making it into Pop. Mech.! |
| 14:35:02 | GodEaterWeb | it made it there too ? :) |
| 14:35:03 | KCC | Regardless of any blatant factual errors. |
| 14:35:06 | GodEaterWeb | or did you typo |
| 14:35:27 | KCC | ahh yes, pop. sci. |
| 14:35:30 | KCC | same type of magazine |
| 14:35:35 | KCC | hah, apologies |
| 14:39:07 | DataGhost | hey |
| 14:39:12 | DataGhost | ata7 spec = 393-page document? |
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| 14:39:19 | DataGhost | or is it bigger? |
| 14:39:19 | GodEaterWeb | thereabouts |
| 14:39:24 | DataGhost | ah ok then I found it :P |
| 14:39:34 | GodEaterWeb | 370 pages |
| 14:39:39 | GodEaterWeb | you need Volume 1 |
| 14:39:46 | DataGhost | yea it's volume 1 |
| 14:39:48 | GodEaterWeb | Volume 2 and 3 aern't relevant to rockbox |
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| 14:40:04 | GodEaterWeb | Project 1532D - Revision 4b is the latest one |
| 14:40:26 | DataGhost | oh yeah I see it stops at 370 pages |
| 14:40:34 | DataGhost | including the toc etc it's 393 |
| 14:40:36 | GodEaterWeb | then you have the right document :) |
| 14:40:41 | DataGhost | :) |
| 14:40:53 | GodEaterWeb | enjoy - it's enthralling reading |
| 14:40:53 | DataGhost | is it available for free? or did I find a 'free' version |
| 14:40:56 | DataGhost | hehe |
| 14:41:00 | GodEaterWeb | it's availble for free |
| 14:41:03 | GodEaterWeb | from www.t13.org |
| 14:41:14 | GodEaterWeb | under "Projects" |
| 14:41:18 | DataGhost | then I'll need to have my eyes checked |
| 14:41:33 | DataGhost | duh |
| 14:41:39 | DataGhost | I was looking under "standards" |
| 14:41:47 | GodEaterWeb | that's where I started |
| 14:41:54 | GodEaterWeb | took me AGES to find it :) |
| 14:42:09 | GodEaterWeb | you want "Last drafts" |
| 14:42:36 | DataGhost | quote = rfc1855: Sometimes a person who asks you for help (or clarification) will send another message which effectively says "Never Mind". |
| 14:42:43 | DataGhost | let's hope the guy I pm'ed knows that |
| 14:42:44 | DataGhost | :P |
| 14:43:08 | GodEaterWeb | I think, however the link under those "Last drafts" is broken |
| 14:43:13 | GodEaterWeb | it only points to Volume 3 |
| 14:43:28 | GodEaterWeb | you'll need to massage it manually to get Volume1 (by changing v3 in the filename to v1) |
| 14:44:02 | GodEaterWeb | right - I'm out to lunch.... |
| 14:44:51 | DataGhost | I can manage that yes :P |
| 14:44:55 | DataGhost | Guess I do have an older one |
| 14:45:18 | DataGhost | this one is 'sold to' someone, 2005/10/27 |
| 14:45:22 | DataGhost | and not for resale |
| 14:45:29 | DataGhost | :) |
| 14:45:29 | KCC | do mediamonkey and rockbox get along in terms of synchronizing your device? |
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| 14:46:40 | markun | in the mygigabeat forums some people are using rockbox and mediamonkey |
| 14:46:59 | KCC | heyy markun! |
| 14:47:07 | markun | hi :) |
| 14:47:27 | KCC | youre the first person i remember working on the gigabeat |
| 14:47:33 | KCC | i salute you, hahaa |
| 14:47:55 | markun | Yes, I was the first person |
| 14:48:19 | markun | in the beginning it was just me an gtkspert in #gigabeat |
| 14:48:31 | DataGhost | oh revision 4b is from 2004 :) |
| 14:48:41 | DataGhost | the date on the website is something else |
| 14:48:46 | KCC | youve done amazing work, let me tell ya |
| 14:48:49 | KCC | hows france? |
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| 14:52:56 | FRiZzO | Good morning folks |
| 14:53:15 | * | petur checks his watch and yawns anyway |
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| 14:54:01 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: you can always find him in #zsnes if you feel so... |
| 14:55:11 | preglow | it's the same guy? |
| 14:55:17 | Genre9mp3 | yes |
| 14:55:31 | preglow | cool |
| 14:55:36 | preglow | i just see someone posted an spc player patch |
| 14:55:41 | preglow | so i was wondering what happened to his plugin |
| 14:55:43 | hcs | that's mine |
| 14:56:00 | hcs | he uploaded it just before the crash |
| 14:56:08 | preglow | he said his ran realtime on ipods too |
| 14:56:19 | preglow | hcs: crash? |
| 14:56:20 | hcs | myeah... well, he hasn't been forthcoming with it |
| 14:56:25 | hcs | server crash |
| 14:56:28 | preglow | not very forthcoming, no |
| 14:57:16 | hcs | I'm just getting track lengths working now |
| 14:58:57 | FRiZzO | You guys have done an excellent job on RockBox, just have to figure it out now :) |
| 14:59:02 | linuxstb_ | hcs: What are the memory requirements for your codec? (I assume it's a codec?) |
| 14:59:14 | KCC | an SPC plugin?! rockbox just keeps gettin better and better... |
| 14:59:24 | hcs | linuxstb_: which codec? |
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| 15:00:05 | linuxstb_ | Your spc player. |
| 15:01:36 | linuxstb_ | I mean does it have issues with playing large files? |
| 15:01:48 | * | linuxstb_ has no idea how big spc files are. |
| 15:01:49 | hcs | spc files are all the same sizd |
| 15:01:52 | hcs | *size |
| 15:01:55 | hcs | a little over 64k |
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| 15:02:31 | FRiZzO | can I ask what SPC is? |
| 15:02:37 | DataGhost | probably exactly 64k hcs? :) |
| 15:02:41 | DataGhost | according to wikipedia |
| 15:02:47 | DataGhost | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPC700_sound_format |
| 15:02:50 | FRiZzO | tnx |
| 15:02:52 | DataGhost | or is it something different? |
| 15:02:53 | DataGhost | :) |
| 15:03:02 | DataGhost | 65535 bytes probably :P |
| 15:03:05 | hcs | DataGhost: nope, a tad more, for saving registers and header info |
| 15:03:13 | DataGhost | oh |
| 15:03:38 | hcs | but the bulk of it is the RAM, which is exactly 64k |
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| 15:04:08 | amiconn | For such files we don't have the non-streaming file wrap problem |
| 15:04:28 | amiconn | As they are so smal, the codec can copy them to the remainder of the codec ram |
| 15:04:38 | hcs | yeah |
| 15:04:58 | goffa | so... do i have to sync with svn to get source? or is there a source tar now that we've moved? |
| 15:05:21 | preglow | they're exactly 64kib |
| 15:05:35 | linuxstb_ | hcs: Do spc files always contain exactly one song? |
| 15:05:40 | preglow | yes |
| 15:05:50 | hcs | though they may contain sound effects :) |
| 15:06:18 | linuxstb_ | So is anything about them not Rockbox-friendly? Infinite looping? |
| 15:06:37 | hcs | many can loop infinitely |
| 15:06:40 | DataGhost | probably, considering it's game-audio |
| 15:06:43 | DataGhost | just like mod etc |
| 15:06:53 | preglow | most loop by default |
| 15:07:02 | hcs | I have that enabled when in repeat one mode |
| 15:07:06 | preglow | but there's is metadata (id666, i think) available |
| 15:07:11 | preglow | which can say how long the track is |
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| 15:07:49 | DataGhost | I'm gonna get myself some lunch :) |
| 15:08:06 | hcs | at the moment I'm only reading the metadata which is within the 256 byte header |
| 15:08:20 | preglow | most players handle tracks with no tags by using a default song length |
| 15:08:22 | preglow | so should we |
| 15:08:23 | hcs | which contains the length and fade for most |
| 15:08:56 | hcs | ok, at the moment I have those defaulting to forever but a default length would be fine, what do you suggest? |
| 15:09:05 | preglow | no idea |
| 15:09:05 | linuxstb_ | Does the codec output at 32KHz? |
| 15:09:08 | hcs | yes |
| 15:09:10 | preglow | 3-4 mins or somethinf |
| 15:09:17 | preglow | should be enough for two loops |
| 15:09:42 | KCC | is there a page for the SPC plugin? |
| 15:09:45 | * | preglow sings the good resampler blues |
| 15:09:59 | linuxstb_ | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6542 |
| 15:10:02 | hcs | yeah, I'm trying not to notice the resampler... |
| 15:10:30 | hcs | there's a resampler in the code but I have it commented out now, I'd like to get it working on iPods first |
| 15:10:39 | linuxstb_ | The gigabeat should be capable of native 32KHz output, once the playback engine is adapted for such things... |
| 15:10:45 | hcs | oh, cool |
| 15:11:01 | linuxstb_ | Only the Coldfire targets have the 44.1KHz limit. |
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| 15:11:32 | linuxstb_ | I'm pretty sure 32KHz is supported by all the WM codecs... |
| 15:11:47 | markun | linuxstb_: are you sure? |
| 15:11:56 | preglow | you should never have to worry about resampling in a codec |
| 15:11:59 | preglow | just output whatever you want |
| 15:12:32 | linuxstb_ | markun: No.... Does the Gigabeat use the WM codecs differently to the ipods? |
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| 15:14:04 | BigBambi | Slasheri, ping |
| 15:14:20 | markun | linuxstb_: In the table for supported freqs for our clock are only the 44.1kHz multiples and divisions |
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| 15:14:45 | preglow | think i'll go ahead and msg pagefault |
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| 15:16:57 | hcs | new patch up, didn't get to the default timing, got to get some sleep |
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| 15:20:37 | markun | linuxstb_: or is it possible to switch to the 'usb mode'? |
| 15:20:46 | markun | I'm talking about page 33 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/uploads/documents/en/WM8751.pdf |
| 15:20:58 | PaulJam | little question, is 15 fps a valid framerate for mpeg2? |
| 15:21:20 | hcs | damnit, I turned off the backlight on my tgb by mistake... |
| 15:21:24 | Mikachu | PaulJam: i think so |
| 15:21:25 | linuxstb_ | PaulJam: Unofficially, yes. |
| 15:21:49 | Mikachu | why can't it be an arbitrary fraction? |
| 15:22:04 | linuxstb_ | It can be, but the specs restrict the valid framerates. |
| 15:22:24 | linuxstb_ | There is a "frame duration" (any number of 27MHz ticks) for each frame. |
| 15:23:02 | Mikachu | it can vary? |
| 15:24:10 | linuxstb_ | MPEG streams are designed to be random access streams, so I think information like that is stored in each individual frame header. But I don't know if it's allowed to change in the same stream. |
| 15:24:25 | Mikachu | ah right |
| 15:25:29 | goffa | so is the only way to get source off the daily builds page? or is there a way to get it off the svn page? |
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| 15:27:04 | markun | goffa: yes, daily builds |
| 15:27:27 | Mikachu | i think the cvs builds page used to have a source tarball too |
| 15:27:29 | goffa | ok.. so no way to get newest source other than waiting for tomorrow? |
| 15:27:38 | Mikachu | you can of course use svn to get it |
| 15:27:39 | goffa | it did at one point |
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| 15:28:08 | goffa | haven't done that... should probably learn how |
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| 15:30:24 | linuxstb_ | markun: I'm not sure how the clocking works, but I know that the full range of frequencies are accessible for the PortalPlayer targets. Of course, the clocks may be different in the gigabeat and prevent it. |
| 15:31:12 | goffa | hoping libsvn-dev is the ubuntu package i need |
| 15:31:25 | linuxstb_ | Is there a package just called "subversion" ? |
| 15:31:34 | linuxstb_ | That's what it is called in Debian. |
| 15:31:34 | goffa | didn't see one |
| 15:31:50 | goffa | ah |
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| 15:32:37 | goffa | getting now |
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| 15:34:37 | goffa | ok.. so now to get the source via svn, what do i do? |
| 15:34:40 | linuxstb_ | PaulJam: If you're re-encoding NTSC (30000/1001 = 29.97fps) material, don't choose 15fps, try and use 15000/1001 (14.985fps). |
| 15:34:44 | linuxstb_ | See the topic |
| 15:34:48 | goffa | ah |
| 15:35:23 | PaulJam | linuxstb_: thank you, i will try that. |
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| 15:38:06 | debauched_slot1 | markun: IIRC, we used to clock using USB mode, so I think it is an option |
| 15:38:19 | debauched_slot1 | gotthardt would know better than I since he fixed the sampling |
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| 15:40:49 | PaulJam | this framerate does not work, mencoder gives an error: MPEG1/2 does not support 15000/1001 fps |
| 15:41:07 | Mikachu | i think exactly 15, not 14.99 |
| 15:41:25 | PaulJam | 15 works |
| 15:41:34 | Mikachu | you can't just change the fps in mencoder if the source fps is different |
| 15:41:42 | Mikachu | it will lose a/v sync |
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| 15:42:15 | PaulJam | i thought that is what the "-ofps" option is for |
| 15:42:28 | Mikachu | hm, maybe it can |
| 15:42:38 | Mikachu | try it and see |
| 15:43:06 | Mikachu | i know the man page says "can be different from that of the source material" but i suspect they are referring to when you're using a filter which drops or adds frames |
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| 15:47:17 | markun | debauched_slot1: ok, that's good to hear. |
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| 15:53:00 | linuxstb_ | Mikachu, PaulJam: These seem to be the framerates ffmpeg/mencoder allows: http://www.pastebin.ca/317331 |
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| 15:54:22 | DerPapst | this Project 1532D Volume 1 - Revision 4b document is makeing my head hurt :-/ |
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| 15:55:08 | PaulJam | thank you |
| 15:55:32 | linuxstb_ | Mikachu, PaulJam: Ignore what I've been saying previously, the fps is not arbitrary in an mpeg video stream, it's from a lookup table... libmpeg2 confused me. |
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| 15:55:52 | linuxstb_ | libmpeg2 has the same lookup table as I just posted from ffmpeg. |
| 15:56:01 | Mikachu | i suspected that when i saw 15/1 listed twice |
| 15:56:06 | linuxstb_ | And me... |
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| 16:02:03 | goffa | hmm.. getting data abort, stuff going on with the lcd, and choppy audio on latest build on my gigabeat |
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| 16:02:40 | markun | goffa: and you updated the bootloader? |
| 16:02:47 | goffa | markun: yes |
| 16:03:15 | markun | I compiled the bootloader and rockbox from source, you too? |
| 16:03:29 | goffa | yes.. did make fullzip |
| 16:03:37 | goffa | and bootloader, you mean rockbox.gigabeat right? |
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| 16:03:48 | markun | no, I mean FWIMG01.DAT |
| 16:03:56 | goffa | oh... no then |
| 16:04:06 | goffa | that's probably my prob |
| 16:04:10 | goffa | didn't know we had to do that now |
| 16:04:26 | goffa | um... there a guide i can look at on doing the bootloader? |
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| 16:04:53 | markun | goffa: make a new build dir and choose B in tools/configure |
| 16:05:02 | markun | (after selecting the gigabeat) |
| 16:05:08 | goffa | ok |
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| 16:17:38 | tchan | Is there a restriction in the ipod 4G simulator that only allows a certain number of themes to be installed? I was trying out some new WPS from rockbox-themes.org in the simulator but it refuses to display the "Britten" WPS.... |
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| 16:18:54 | goffa | that seemed to fix things markun |
| 16:19:03 | tchan | refuses to display, as in the choice for britten is not even included in the Browse Themes list |
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| 16:19:32 | goffa | well.. not totally |
| 16:19:42 | goffa | like when i make a playlist |
| 16:19:48 | goffa | and the number counts up |
| 16:19:55 | goffa | the old text isn't erased from the screen |
| 16:20:14 | goffa | but the new text updates |
| 16:20:27 | goffa | creating black blobs where its counting up (as opposed to a number) |
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| 16:23:41 | markun | goffa: try to clean out your build dir and rerun configure before make (and make zip) maybe that helps |
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| 16:24:59 | goffa | ok.. i'll try that again |
| 16:25:07 | KCC | can somebody send me the Gigabeta Rockbox simulator? the site seems to be down |
| 16:27:42 | linuxstb_ | tchan: Have you tried it on a real 4G? There shouldn't be any limitations like that. |
| 16:28:38 | amiconn | Hrmpf |
| 16:29:12 | amiconn | This optimisation for gigabeat bitmaps looks buggy, and unnecessarily limited |
| 16:29:46 | amiconn | It looks like it should optimise solid drawing, but draws fg only for mono bitmaps |
| 16:30:14 | amiconn | Furthermore, the code should work on all 16-bit-lcd arm targets, not only gigabeat |
| 16:30:32 | markun | amiconn: I hope sloth is reading the logs |
| 16:30:39 | tchan | linuxstb_: Haven't tried it yet on a real 4G. My real 4G is on a fedex truck and will be here Thurs. :( |
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| 16:32:29 | amiconn | [16:20:02] <goffa> the old text isn't erased from the screen |
| 16:32:29 | amiconn | [16:20:22] <goffa> but the new text updates |
| 16:32:29 | amiconn | [16:20:34] <goffa> creating black blobs where its counting up (as opposed to a number) |
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| 16:32:55 | amiconn | ^^ signs of implementing DRMODE_SOLID wrong |
| 16:33:15 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Are there similar asm optimisations any other LCD formats? |
| 16:33:22 | amiconn | No, not yet |
| 16:34:13 | amiconn | And I wonder why they're deemed so imprortant by the gigabeat people |
| 16:34:41 | amiconn | I guess there are other things to fix which don't work properly yet. Drawing is just a little slower w/o optimisation |
| 16:34:44 | markun | amiconn: ask them |
| 16:35:15 | linuxstb_ | Is Greg in .au ? |
| 16:37:00 | markun | linuxstb_: USA I think |
| 16:37:26 | markun | no sure |
| 16:37:41 | goffa | i'm rebuilding.. got 2 phone calls |
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| 16:40:58 | linuxstb_ | tchan: There is no theme .cfg file included with the britten WPS. You'll need to use the "Browse WPS" option to choose the wps, and then Browse Fonts to choose the font. |
| 16:41:09 | linuxstb_ | (assuming you got it from rockbox-themes.org) |
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| 16:41:19 | goffa | grr.. phone again |
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| 16:43:34 | Soap | bluebrother: do you have a second? |
| 16:43:35 | tchan | linuxstb_: thanks. Yes, I did get it from rockbox-themes.org |
| 16:45:50 | bluebrother | Soap: just came back |
| 16:46:23 | Soap | I'm afraid I know the answer to this question, but do you edit the latex manual files by hand? |
| 16:46:35 | bluebrother | sure. |
| 16:46:51 | Soap | The answer I'd like to hear is "There is this awesome GUI editor...." |
| 16:46:55 | bluebrother | so you want a nicer editor than wordpad? ;-) |
| 16:47:03 | bluebrother | ok. You could try texmaker |
| 16:47:28 | bluebrother | http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/ |
| 16:47:33 | Soap | I'll look into that, thank you. |
| 16:47:49 | bluebrother | or TeXmacs, but I don't know how good this works |
| 16:47:58 | bluebrother | especially with our macro stuff |
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| 16:48:12 | bluebrother | http://www.texmacs.org/ |
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| 16:48:40 | bluebrother | ah, seems that evolved to some latex-export-thingy |
| 16:48:43 | Soap | I guess that brings up another question - what pitfalls do I need to look out for regarding the macros then? |
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| 16:49:24 | GodEaterWeb | Soap: There's always LyX |
| 16:49:24 | bluebrother | have you read the ManualHowto and LatexGuidelines pages? They should contain the most important stuff |
| 16:49:29 | linuxstb | I don't think a gui editor would work well - unless everyone used the same one. I would imagine it would make lots of unwanted changes. |
| 16:49:31 | GodEaterWeb | that's a GUI Editor |
| 16:49:48 | GodEaterWeb | www.lyx.org |
| 16:49:53 | bluebrother | the code produces by LyX is ... not too nice |
| 16:50:17 | bluebrother | so I'm pretty sure it won't work in a useful way for the Rockbox manual |
| 16:50:22 | GodEaterWeb | *shrug* - it's the only GUI editor I know of though |
| 16:50:36 | Soap | ahh, that is a good point linuxstb, I'll spend more time getting comfortable with the markups then. |
| 16:50:36 | bluebrother | but if you're doing something else maybe it's worth a look. |
| 16:51:03 | bluebrother | Haven't looked at LyX for a couple of years (mostly since I learned LaTeX myself ;-) |
| 16:51:06 | GodEaterWeb | why don't we use DocBook ? |
| 16:51:07 | Soap | I guess I was thinking GUI=DiveRightIn, but... |
| 16:51:30 | bluebrother | GodEaterWeb: I think because originally we had OOo. And there's a converter to LaTeX. |
| 16:51:38 | linuxstb | GodEaterWeb: Know a good free formatter for docbook? |
| 16:51:41 | goffa | hmm.. getting same thing on create playlist |
| 16:52:01 | GodEaterWeb | linuxstb: Nope - I always did that by hand |
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| 16:52:14 | GodEaterWeb | but it's a sight easier than doing LaTeX by hand IMHO |
| 16:52:22 | bluebrother | GodEaterWeb: now do that nightly on the rockbox build server ;-) |
| 16:52:27 | linuxstb | GodEaterWeb: I mean formatting/processing docbook to generate PDF. |
| 16:52:33 | GodEaterWeb | oh |
| 16:52:38 | GodEaterWeb | there's a tool chain to do that |
| 16:52:47 | bluebrother | latex is quite easy when you are used to it as long as you don't want to do special stuff |
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| 16:52:52 | GodEaterWeb | I've not done it for a while |
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| 16:52:58 | GodEaterWeb | but it worked well from what I recall |
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| 16:54:01 | linuxstb | GodEaterWeb: But I think the choice was made by the person who decided to do the work - i.e. someone said "shall I convert the manual to latex?" and we all said yes, good idea. |
| 16:54:24 | GodEaterWeb | linuxstb: that's more the answer I was looking for :) |
| 16:55:24 | preglow | isn't docbook xml? |
| 16:55:29 | preglow | *shiver* |
| 16:55:35 | Soap | I don't want to do special stuff, just lots of minor tweaks. |
| 16:55:35 | GodEaterWeb | docbook is either xml or sgml |
| 16:55:36 | linuxstb | preglow: sgml originally, now there's an xml version. |
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| 16:55:38 | GodEaterWeb | depending on which version you use |
| 16:55:56 | linuxstb | preglow: But xml is good for documents - easy to transform into other formats. |
| 16:55:57 | GodEaterWeb | I only ever used the SGML version - it was much easier to find tools to work with it |
| 16:55:58 | preglow | equally unreadable anyway |
| 16:56:05 | bluebrother | as long as you only do special stuff I think it's mostly copying the way it's currently done, and that should be fairly easy |
| 16:56:09 | GodEaterWeb | and Latex is readable ? |
| 16:56:15 | GodEaterWeb | yuk |
| 16:56:25 | bluebrother | GodEaterWeb: it is :-P |
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| 16:56:30 | GodEaterWeb | if you say so |
| 16:56:47 | bluebrother | it's like doxygen style for comments: once you get used to it it gets quite nice |
| 16:57:05 | GodEaterWeb | it's something else that's on my "never learn to do this" list |
| 16:57:18 | GodEaterWeb | I understand the need in the scientific community |
| 16:57:26 | GodEaterWeb | but not for publishing software manuals |
| 16:57:34 | bluebrother | and reading formulae is really easier than in some try to do it in ASCII-Art |
| 16:58:00 | GodEaterWeb | I've noticed a distinct lack of formulae in the RockBox manual |
| 16:58:10 | bluebrother | hehe |
| 16:58:17 | bluebrother | should I add some? |
| 16:58:27 | GodEaterWeb | not for the sake of it please |
| 16:58:27 | linuxstb | Yes, fill out that EQ section... |
| 16:58:29 | bluebrother | :) |
| 16:58:56 | preglow | what makes docbook more suited than latex anyway? |
| 16:59:03 | GodEaterWeb | nothing |
| 16:59:14 | bluebrother | btw, doxygen can run latex to print formulae ... I used that once. The comment looks a bit weird but the documentation is great |
| 16:59:14 | preglow | and mind you, i'm not latex's biggest fan |
| 16:59:16 | GodEaterWeb | if the choice had been mine - I wouldn't have used either |
| 16:59:16 | preglow | but it's the best thing i've seen thus far |
| 16:59:18 | GodEaterWeb | but it wasn't |
| 16:59:26 | linuxstb | GodEaterWeb: What would you have used? |
| 16:59:35 | GodEaterWeb | I'd have stuck with OOO :) |
| 16:59:46 | GodEaterWeb | but I'm not doing the job |
| 16:59:53 | GodEaterWeb | so I'm happy to leave the decision to someone else |
| 16:59:53 | linuxstb | And automatically generated 20 different manuals? |
| 16:59:54 | preglow | ooo ? |
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| 17:00:10 | bluebrother | Openoffice.org |
| 17:00:17 | preglow | oh, that's rather ill-suited |
| 17:00:28 | preglow | output often looks like shit, and you'd have to write all manuals separately |
| 17:00:46 | GodEaterWeb | like I said : it wasn't my decision, so you can all be very glad :) |
| 17:01:04 | bluebrother | I can't think of anything that is better suited for our needs than Latex. If someone knows better feel free to tell me :) |
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| 17:01:40 | * | bluebrother notices a ThinkPad |
| 17:01:47 | preglow | i would very much love for latex to handle fonts better |
| 17:01:50 | ThinkPad | ;) |
| 17:01:53 | preglow | if that was fixed, i'd love latex |
| 17:02:18 | goffa | i notice my screen not refreshing issue when i have show current directory enabled and the current dir attempts to scroll left-right |
| 17:02:32 | goffa | also |
| 17:02:44 | goffa | which i'm thinking is the same bug as when creating a playlist |
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| 17:03:34 | kyp | im sure u get this question a lot. but i was wondering if rockbox will ever work on 80gb ipods? |
| 17:03:34 | ThinkPad | would rockbox run on my Archos GMini XS100? :) |
| 17:03:42 | bluebrother | ThinkPad: no |
| 17:03:58 | ThinkPad | bluebrother: why (technically)? |
| 17:04:11 | bluebrother | nobody has ported it |
| 17:04:26 | ThinkPad | but from the hw side it would possibly run? |
| 17:04:27 | bluebrother | don't know about the hardware. Maybe the wiki has some information about that |
| 17:04:32 | ThinkPad | k |
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| 17:04:50 | amiconn | goffa: This is a bug in the gigabeat lcd optimisation, check the log from ~35 mins ago |
| 17:05:26 | bluebrother | ThinkPad: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/NonArchos#Gmini_120_SP_220_XS200 |
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| 17:06:03 | bluebrother | not sure if they are similar to the xs100 |
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| 17:07:15 | ThinkPad | bluebrother: Yeah, I just found it |
| 17:07:17 | ThinkPad | thanks :) |
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| 17:11:21 | goffa | oh ok amiconn |
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| 17:39:42 | KCC | Explosivo in the #gigabeat channel posted... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8RoMWB4wg |
| 17:39:52 | KCC | worth watching, maybe even including a link on the Rockbox page? |
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| 17:45:57 | GodEaterWeb | http://www.ce-ata.org/ <−− comments anyone ? |
| 17:46:01 | toffe | I had something strange yesterday : I load my gigabeat with a lot of mp3 and when I wanted to play them, it gave me an error codec failure on any file I wanted to play |
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| 17:46:20 | toffe | I switch off and on and it is ok ?? any idea ? |
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| 17:48:04 | Soap | if Soap had his way all Rockbox videos would be removed from youtube. |
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| 17:52:32 | preglow | if preglow had his way, all videos would be removed from youtube |
| 17:52:44 | preglow | bloody piece of shit website |
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| 17:54:39 | Soap | Those videos attract people who want eye-candy, and expect eye-candy given to them NOW! |
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| 18:24:27 | midgey | barrywardell: updated version of #6539 |
| 18:28:58 | KCC | wow, no love for youtube |
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| 18:34:24 | bluebrother | someone running os x here? |
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| 18:36:36 | BigBambi | Slasheri, if you read the logs - I have noticed a small problem with bootloader 7 pre 3 - you cannot turn on with the remote - regardless of position of either hold switch, it says hold is on and turns off again. From main unit is fine. |
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| 18:38:27 | muesli__ | new bootloader for h3xx coming soon? |
| 18:40:55 | Slasheri | BigBambi: hmm, weird. Do you have the normal lcd remote? |
| 18:40:59 | Slasheri | for me it works fine |
| 18:41:41 | BigBambi | yep |
| 18:41:51 | BigBambi | odd |
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| 18:42:19 | Slasheri | hmm, maybe we read the hold switch status too early then.. |
| 18:42:30 | BigBambi | It worked OK before I put the new bootloader on, so a hardware problem would be a coincidence! |
| 18:42:33 | Slasheri | and on your player adc converter has not stabilized yet |
| 18:42:52 | BigBambi | Could be - it doesn't take long at all to decide hold is on |
| 18:43:07 | BigBambi | It is very repeatable as well, I've tried it quite a few times |
| 18:43:35 | BigBambi | Message comes up almost as soon as backlight |
| 18:45:01 | Slasheri | hmm, it would be nice to hear from others how many people has that issue with that bootloader |
| 18:45:15 | Slasheri | probably just a very short delay would fix that |
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| 18:45:38 | BigBambi | I'm not terribly confident fiddling with bootloader code myself :) |
| 18:46:24 | BigBambi | However, if you could point me where to look I can try - although I guess a changed bootloader would also need a new flashing plugin for the CRC |
| 18:46:29 | Slasheri | hmm, maybe i could provide a test build for you to test.. but i don't have time right now, tomorrow altought tomorrow would be fine :) |
| 18:46:42 | Slasheri | yep, correct |
| 18:46:52 | BigBambi | fine by me, i can handle using the main unit power on for now |
| 18:47:02 | Slasheri | :) |
| 18:47:13 | BigBambi | Would be keen to test though, let me know whenever you have time (no rush!) |
| 18:47:32 | Slasheri | i will :) |
| 18:47:41 | BigBambi | cheers :) |
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| 18:54:51 | barrywardell | midgey: those sansa plugin patches look fine now :) |
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| 19:00:46 | * | Soap is sorry for killing the forums. |
| 19:01:12 | bluebrother | midgey, the manual should now build on os x again (hopefully) |
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| 19:21:06 | sk8 | does anyone have the jBlackGlass theme working |
| 19:21:34 | sk8 | for ipod photo 30gb |
| 19:21:37 | sk8 | http://pijulius.blogspot.com/2006/05/jblackglass-for-ipod-photocolor.html |
| 19:21:40 | sk8 | thats the link |
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| 19:24:11 | Soap | His patches are way out of date. |
| 19:24:56 | Soap | Ironicly (as many people think of him and iPods) Mysticriver has probably more current info on his patches than anyplace else. |
| 19:26:16 | perldiver | why album art and margin scrolling patches are not being included in svn builds? |
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| 19:26:33 | perldiver | people ask about them all the time and they seem to work OK |
| 19:26:59 | bluebrother | gtg now. bbl |
| 19:27:00 | Soap | But he has stoped (for the time being?) working on them, and they will take a lot of work to get back current. The person who is willing to invest this time will be praised by all lovers of eye-candy, but realize eye-candy is what it is and you will understand why most of the core team hasn't lifted a finger to work on them (not to mention PiJ's failure to post to the tracker, the ugliness of the patches themselves, blah blah blah.) |
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| 19:27:49 | perldiver | ha |
| 19:27:57 | sk8 | well PiJ did an awesome job with the theme |
| 19:28:04 | sk8 | i mean it looks amazing |
| 19:28:12 | sk8 | but he doesnt help with it |
| 19:28:16 | sk8 | i contacted him |
| 19:28:26 | sk8 | but he doesnt respond |
| 19:28:27 | Soap | I wouldn't either. |
| 19:28:32 | sk8 | he was on AIM |
| 19:28:34 | Soap | Read his build thread. |
| 19:28:41 | sk8 | where is that |
| 19:28:43 | Soap | He offered up these for free |
| 19:28:48 | sk8 | can u send the link please |
| 19:29:03 | Soap | and the gall of people. DEMANDING more and more from him was sad. |
| 19:29:26 | Soap | in the unsuported builds forum. |
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| 19:31:14 | sk8 | how do u use the patches |
| 19:31:17 | sk8 | found |
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| 19:31:49 | sk8 | and when u upload music what format does it have to be |
| 19:32:06 | sk8 | .acc or other forms k |
| 19:32:17 | sk8 | like .wma |
| 19:32:25 | linuxstb | Almost any format is supported by Rockbox. Major exceptions are wma, rm and ape |
| 19:32:44 | sk8 | so no .wma |
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| 19:37:17 | amiconn | hrrrm |
| 19:37:45 | * | amiconn needs one more register than there are in the coldfire |
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| 19:38:13 | * | petur suggests amiconn tapes one to the side of the chip |
| 19:38:30 | linuxstb | apt-get install extra-register |
| 19:38:47 | amiconn | No network on the iriver ;( |
| 19:39:06 | linuxstb | Oh well... |
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| 19:42:58 | * | Slasheri wonders when we need to implement tcp/ip :) |
| 19:43:06 | Slasheri | i hope the time comes, with wlan.. |
| 19:43:33 | perldiver | http://pijulius.com/julius/rockbox/rockboxlogo.320x98x16.bmp |
| 19:43:34 | linuxstb | I'm sure eventually one target will get usbotg working... |
| 19:43:34 | perldiver | ha |
| 19:43:40 | perldiver | never saw that one before |
| 19:44:21 | Soap | very similar to the one Senab uses. |
| 19:44:34 | * | XavierGr pings petur for USBOTG support :P |
| 19:45:13 | Slasheri | perldiver: not bad :) |
| 19:45:25 | petur | maybe I'll have some RB time starting mid-february :( |
| 19:45:36 | perldiver | yes, could appeal to eye-candy loving masses :P |
| 19:45:55 | Slasheri | that could be the boot logo :P |
| 19:46:08 | Mikachu | my boot logo http://mikachu.ath.cx/rockboxlogo.176x54x16.bmp |
| 19:46:44 | perldiver | lol |
| 19:46:52 | Slasheri | :D |
| 19:47:23 | perldiver | Soap does senab builds use it as a logo or a similar picture? |
| 19:47:32 | Soap | bootlogo |
| 19:47:57 | Slasheri | does the bootloader use a logo too? that would be nice especially for ipods -> long boot time |
| 19:48:09 | Slasheri | unless there are errors, then those would be displayed |
| 19:48:25 | perldiver | Slasheri yeah theres a patch for that |
| 19:48:29 | Soap | PiJ had one he was working on, but it is also old. |
| 19:48:33 | Mikachu | i changed my bootloader to not print anything, so the Apple apple shows right up until my wormeaten apple |
| 19:48:51 | Slasheri | Mikachu: sounds good too |
| 19:49:01 | Mikachu | i tried to make holding left show the text, but it's flakey at best |
| 19:49:06 | perldiver | Soap what about this page then |
| 19:49:07 | perldiver | senab.co.uk/rockbox/">http://www.senab.co.uk/rockbox/ |
| 19:49:18 | perldiver | that seems to be updated |
| 19:49:41 | Soap | Senab's stuff is current, I thought we weretalking about pijulius? |
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| 19:53:01 | perldiver | isnt senab using pj's patches? sorry im not really ipod side of things but thinking of putting rockbox to my g5, its laying around doing nothing |
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| 19:54:27 | perldiver | maybe you'd like to know guys, gigabeat hit 21 hours playback time |
| 19:54:30 | Soap | no he is not. |
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| 19:57:36 | perldiver | Soap oh i see |
| 19:57:48 | perldiver | pj's works are great though |
| 19:59:25 | Slasheri | i will commit the improved scrolling for iriver someday soon |
| 19:59:30 | Slasheri | *ipod |
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| 20:00:29 | Mikachu | does anyone have the code? *paranoid* |
| 20:02:10 | perldiver | whats wrong with the scrolling now? |
| 20:02:28 | Soap | takes forever to scroll through long lists. |
| 20:03:18 | Soap | I have to nest my albums to get to the bottom in a reasonable amount of time. |
| 20:03:21 | FRiZzO | wow, thats what I want is there a setting to set speed of the scroll? |
| 20:03:37 | perldiver | does it freeze and resolve? |
| 20:04:07 | Soap | I have /music/<artist>/<year> - <album>/<track#> - <track title>.mp3 now |
| 20:04:36 | FRiZzO | is it cause im using the database view? |
| 20:04:38 | Soap | I'd _much_ rather have /music/<artist> - <year> - <album>/<track#> - <track title>.mp3 |
| 20:04:43 | FRiZzO | or is it just something that is still the works to make it faster |
| 20:05:03 | linuxstb | Soap: I have your current layout, and prefer it. |
| 20:05:34 | Slasheri | perldiver: just try it and you _will_ see =) |
| 20:05:51 | Mikachu | Soap: you mean the middle right? you can wrap to get to the end :) |
| 20:05:54 | Slasheri | it works horrible |
| 20:05:59 | perldiver | Slasheri ha i never use my g5 |
| 20:06:25 | Soap | point Mikachu. |
| 20:06:46 | Slasheri | FRiZzO: do you have a 5G? |
| 20:10:16 | FRiZzO | yeah. |
| 20:10:49 | FRiZzO | Yeah sorry I didn't mention that I have a Ipod video 60gig |
| 20:11:47 | FRiZzO | I'm trying to figure this stuff out, I love it so far! flac files sound so good |
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| 20:11:59 | FRiZzO | I can blast them in my truck |
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| 20:32:42 | barrywardell | midgey: do you have commit access or do you want me to commit those patches? |
| 20:33:00 | midgey | i dont have commit access |
| 20:33:14 | midgey | i added sudoku if you hadnt noticed |
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| 20:33:16 | barrywardell | ok, i'll commit them so |
| 20:33:23 | barrywardell | i'm testing sudoku now :) |
| 20:33:23 | midgey | ok |
| 20:33:28 | midgey | :) |
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| 20:44:22 | midgey | barrywardell: would now be a good time to pester people about getting commit access? |
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| 20:44:40 | midgey | or at least attempt to get blackjack committed ;) |
| 20:45:18 | dan_a | midgey: What flyspray# is blackjack? |
| 20:45:52 | midgey | #5664 |
| 20:46:24 | barrywardell | midgey: I think Bagder is the one to talk to about that |
| 20:46:42 | midgey | barrywardell: ok |
| 20:47:57 | linuxstb | dan_a: Planning on committing blackjack? |
| 20:48:01 | Nico_P | is it possible to get the logf output in the sim ? |
| 20:48:23 | linuxstb | Are you running it in Windows or Linux (or something else) ? |
| 20:48:32 | Nico_P | linux |
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| 20:48:59 | dan_a | linuxstb: Having a look at the code - I think midgey should be allowed to commit it, though ;) |
| 20:49:06 | linuxstb | On an iriver sim, (and maybe others...), it should appear on the remote's LCD... |
| 20:49:17 | linuxstb | Otherwise use DEBUGF, and that will just write to the console. |
| 20:50:22 | Nico_P | linuxstb: yeah, i know about DEBUGF, but there's already a lot of info in logf i'd like to see... and also DEBUGF already prints a lot of info and i'd like to print a big one so I thought maybe logf would be better |
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| 20:50:43 | Nico_P | and the remote lcd seems to show what it would IRL |
| 20:50:55 | linuxstb | Nico_P: It should be easy to hack the logf function to write the output to the terminal. |
| 20:51:15 | Nico_P | so currently it's not stored anywhere ? |
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| 20:51:59 | linuxstb | Yes, it's stored in the logf buffer. |
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| 20:52:28 | linuxstb | It seems it's already setup for writing the output - if you define __PCTOOL__... |
| 20:52:36 | linuxstb | Look in firmware/logf.c |
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| 20:53:14 | linuxstb | And just add #define __PCTOOL__ at the top - just after #ifdef ROCKBOX_HAS_LOGF |
| 20:53:24 | Nico_P | ok, thanks |
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| 20:57:32 | GodEater | amiconn: are you around ? |
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| 20:58:09 | barrywardell | midgey: i think for sudoku toggle maybe we could use scroll up/down |
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| 21:07:07 | rUISu | Hi, I would lie to upload a WPS for the Gigabeat port, do I need permision to upload? I get this −−-+ Access Denied |
| 21:08:16 | linuxstb | Have you created a wiki account? |
| 21:08:29 | FRiZzO | What font size you guys find the best on ipod 5g? |
| 21:08:40 | linuxstb | The sytem font, 5x6... :) |
| 21:08:46 | linuxstb | ^system |
| 21:08:47 | FRiZzO | heeh. |
| 21:08:54 | linuxstb | And 5x8.... I can't type any more. |
| 21:09:19 | FRiZzO | makes me feel old :) |
| 21:09:27 | linuxstb | In fact, I think it's 6x8, but I should stop... |
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| 21:12:25 | rUISu | linuxstb: yes |
| 21:12:33 | rUISu | LuisPeregrina |
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| 21:17:38 | linuxstb | rUISu: You now have write access. |
| 21:17:43 | preglow | The iPhone is running an optimised but full version of OS X that weighs in at “considerably less” than half a GB |
| 21:17:46 | preglow | jeez laweez |
| 21:17:49 | rUISu | tahnks you very mucho :) |
| 21:17:55 | linuxstb | preglow: lol |
| 21:18:24 | perldiver | was there any interest ever in porting scummvm to rockbox? |
| 21:18:33 | preglow | the apple engineers have to be snorting finest-grade cocaine |
| 21:18:46 | linuxstb | perldiver: There was a forum thread about it, but I don't think it progressed beyond that. |
| 21:19:07 | perldiver | linuxstb yes im looking now, it has 2 posts in 2005 |
| 21:19:19 | linuxstb | I'm sure there was a more recent one. |
| 21:19:46 | Zagor | preglow: with their flash deal, they can afford the extra space :) |
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| 21:20:51 | preglow | but how bloody necessary can it possibly be |
| 21:21:20 | Zagor | "apple" and "necessary" shouldn't be used in the same sentence |
| 21:21:25 | dan_a | I used to have a phone with an OS that weighed in at *considerably* less than half a GB |
| 21:21:39 | markun | perldiver: I would be interested |
| 21:22:06 | linuxstb | perldiver: I must be mistaken, searching doesn't find a longer or more recent thread than that one... |
| 21:22:31 | linuxstb | Unless it was deleted in the forum reorganisation... |
| 21:22:37 | Genre9mp3 | how scummvm would be possible on such small screens? |
| 21:22:55 | dan_a | perldiver, linuxstb: I remember that thread. I think the conclusion was that since scummvm was in C++ it would be challenging to port it. |
| 21:23:03 | perldiver | Genre9mp3 good question |
| 21:23:20 | linuxstb | There's also a flyspray task - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4930 |
| 21:23:46 | perldiver | but some games might look ok |
| 21:23:47 | markun | Genre9mp3: on a 320x240 screen a lot of the games will look fine |
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| 21:24:00 | the_conley | markun: has any code been written for gigabeat S yet? |
| 21:24:06 | markun | no |
| 21:24:13 | the_conley | :( |
| 21:25:04 | markun | there was only a linux on the Zune hoax |
| 21:25:42 | the_conley | Is anyone working on the S? |
| 21:25:48 | linuxstb | markun: Is that confirmed as a hoax now? |
| 21:26:23 | markun | linuxstb: the thread was removed and the main programmer was seen on other forums asking for programming tutorials I believe |
| 21:26:35 | linuxstb | :) |
| 21:26:41 | Genre9mp3 | linuxstb: Has all the hoax characteristics IMO |
| 21:26:57 | linuxstb | Genre9mp3: I agree. |
| 21:27:26 | markun | They were mainly looking for graphics people. That's the most important thing if you port linux of course :) |
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| 21:29:27 | Genre9mp3 | about the ScummVM... ok, even if there's no problem on 320x240 screens and even if you can emulate the mouse, how about the keyboard? |
| 21:30:00 | markun | Genre9mp3: for the savegames? |
| 21:30:10 | perldiver | why do you need the keyboard? |
| 21:30:24 | Mikachu | scummvm doesn't use keyboards |
| 21:30:32 | Mikachu | except for typing save game names, but you can generate those |
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| 21:31:58 | Genre9mp3 | Ok.. I only have played Monkey Island and Broken Sword and that wasn't much to tell you the truth... I thought that you needed the keyboard as well to play |
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| 21:32:30 | muesli__ | Genre9mp3 did u find the 4th t-shirt? |
| 21:32:35 | perldiver | i dont remember much keyboard use in those except for bringing menus |
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| 21:33:20 | Mikachu | you can use the keyboard as shortcuts for the buttons in the toolbar |
| 21:33:36 | Genre9mp3 | muesli__: huh? If you are refering to the games... it's a long time ago.. I don't have a clue! :) |
| 21:33:39 | goffa | well quest for glory used keyboards quite extensively |
| 21:33:44 | GodEater | linuxstb: see that most recent comment in #ipodlinux |
| 21:33:45 | GodEater | ? |
| 21:33:47 | goffa | at least hero's quest did.. before it was qfg |
| 21:34:12 | muesli__ | Genre9mp3 ;-) just asked the poisened dogs ;) |
| 21:34:21 | muesli__ | (poodles) |
| 21:34:57 | perldiver | scummvm doesnt support sierra titles |
| 21:35:16 | goffa | ok.. was thinking it did |
| 21:35:23 | linuxstb | GodEater: Yes... |
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| 21:35:47 | Mikachu | i play fate of atlantis every couple of years, for nostalgia :) |
| 21:37:00 | GodEater | that was an awesome game :) |
| 21:37:48 | rUISu | Why am i getting this "?" at the end of my wps? is that normal for the ps you upload? |
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| 21:40:32 | perldiver | rUISu interesting wps |
| 21:41:07 | rUISu | :) |
| 21:41:38 | GodEater | it seems the ipodlinux kernel's ATA driver can read *something* from the 80G ipod's drive |
| 21:42:13 | n1s | rUISu: because it's CamelCase twiki thinks it's a WikiWord (don't remember how to tell it that it's not) |
| 21:42:29 | rUISu | <nop>? |
| 21:42:49 | rUISu | oh god, its true :P its camelcas:Pe |
| 21:43:46 | rUISu | there :) |
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| 21:50:59 | BiptoN | linuxstb: is there a patch for the memcpy or what not you added? |
| 21:51:51 | linuxstb | I didn't add memcpy, but it's in SVN now. |
| 21:52:55 | BiptoN | no patch than? thanks |
| 21:53:06 | BiptoN | svn? |
| 21:53:09 | BiptoN | diff from cvs? |
| 21:53:16 | linuxstb | SVN has replaced CVS. |
| 21:53:32 | linuxstb | They are both version control systems. |
| 21:54:04 | BiptoN | ahh IC |
| 21:54:05 | BiptoN | thanks |
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| 21:56:10 | maxwell | Hi there, first of all rockbox is doing amazing on my iaudio x5l, it's just brilliant! Love the fact that i now can easily record lossless audio! |
| 21:57:09 | maxwell | But I've got a problem with the clix theme, just installed the one for x5 but the fonts are displaced |
| 21:57:22 | n1s | maxwell: did you install the fonts? |
| 21:57:30 | maxwell | Actually everything is displaced |
| 21:57:35 | maxwell | Yeah |
| 21:57:42 | n1s | does the theme require patches? |
| 21:57:46 | maxwell | The one of csv and the ones in the package |
| 21:57:56 | maxwell | Just a second, I'll have a look again |
| 21:59:06 | Genre9mp3 | maxwell: It's either that you missing the fonts or the wps requires one or more patches |
| 21:59:27 | maxwell | Yeah, some other themes don't work either |
| 21:59:34 | maxwell | Just checking what i made wrong |
| 21:59:39 | maxwell | Or what I'm missing |
| 21:59:40 | Genre9mp3 | and I'm almost sure that the Clix theme requires patches |
| 21:59:44 | pixelma | or both (and I think the clix needs some patches) |
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| 22:00:38 | maxwell | It says "Make sure you have the latest patched build for this to work!"...which Patches exactly? |
| 22:01:29 | maxwell | Found one |
| 22:01:32 | maxwell | Thanks guys (: |
| 22:02:47 | maxwell | Deary me, think that this is the wrong one http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5370 |
| 22:03:13 | n1s | that's just another wps |
| 22:03:35 | maxwell | Yeah |
| 22:04:00 | maxwell | I'm just running the latest CVS, so I should have the latest patches, right? |
| 22:04:21 | maxwell | Or what exactly does he mean by "Make sure you have the latest patched build for this to work"? |
| 22:04:42 | Genre9mp3 | If its the latest CVS then it's not the _latest_ :P |
| 22:05:07 | Genre9mp3 | probably means that he is providing a custom build in the forums |
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| 22:06:22 | maxwell | That's rubbish, I feel like a complete Idiot after beeing searching the whole forum. But I'll try again, thanks |
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| 22:07:07 | Genre9mp3 | try the Unsupported Builds section |
| 22:08:25 | maxwell | Ha, no, think I've found the patches |
| 22:08:41 | maxwell | Thanks guys, to blind to see the right link (: |
| 22:08:46 | Redbreva | Try ipodfoo.blogspot.com/">http://ipodfoo.blogspot.com/ to get a nClix wps with matching custom build... |
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| 22:10:08 | GodEater | I think I'm going to need an experience linux hacker for this |
| 22:10:11 | pixelma | I thought nClix is for the nano? (not the X5) |
| 22:10:14 | maxwell | There's a special build that comes with all needed patches http://rockbox.webhop.org/ |
| 22:10:19 | GodEater | the ipl ide driver is WAY more complex than ours =/ |
| 22:11:26 | GodEater | you can even see in DerPapst's screen shots that it's read the partition table though |
| 22:12:28 | linuxstb | GodEater: If I was you, I would just try to hack the kernel, to try and get more debugging output from it. |
| 22:12:37 | GodEater | yeah I will |
| 22:12:48 | GodEater | but it's going to take me a while to work out which bits to hack :) |
| 22:13:11 | GodEater | my C is going to have to get a lot better |
| 22:14:40 | GodEater | it's also tougher to get a nice snapshot of the ipl code at work |
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| 22:19:30 | maxwell | Where to copy these patches? |
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| 22:20:23 | markun | maxwell: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
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| 22:29:22 | Zagor | I was toying with the idea of giving putting all patches in svn branches instead of/in addition to flyspray. sort of like twiki for patches. |
| 22:29:51 | Zagor | it would allow people to cooperate on big patches more easily |
| 22:31:22 | dan_a | Zagor: That sounds pretty good. Can you pull changes from trunk into the branches? |
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| 22:31:48 | Zagor | dan_a: yes |
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| 22:32:19 | sk8 | hey guys |
| 22:32:23 | Zagor | the new subversion server can restrict access to specific paths, so patch owners would not be able not modify anything else |
| 22:32:24 | sk8 | back again |
| 22:32:51 | sk8 | Julius's theme JBlackGlass theme is working he helped me out |
| 22:33:04 | sk8 | and no patches needed |
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| 22:33:23 | dan_a | Zagor: How about custom build builders - would they be able to pull several branches into one? (Erm... I guess I should RTFM!) |
| 22:33:44 | sk8 | dan_a: remember me sk8deamon |
| 22:34:00 | Zagor | dan_a: Good question. I don't know. |
| 22:34:09 | dan_a | sk8: I do - I'm glad you got it working! |
| 22:34:21 | sk8 | :) |
| 22:34:29 | dan_a | Zagor: Can I start the "migrate to git" requests yet? |
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| 22:34:52 | Zagor | dan_a: haha |
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| 22:35:09 | * | amiconn_ thinks trying to do the second step before the first isn't wise |
| 22:35:12 | Mikachu | i think you should use <insert obscure vcs here> |
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| 22:35:18 | fasmaie | Does anyone know if runtime data is functional at this time? |
| 22:35:23 | Mikachu | amiconn: you mean ??? before collect underwear? |
| 22:36:10 | amiconn | I mean that there are still numerous scripts and other things to fix due to the svn transition |
| 22:37:15 | amiconn | build table: diff links not working, side menu, styles (also for subpages) |
| 22:37:35 | amiconn | frontpage: since 2.5, last 4 weeks not working |
| 22:37:44 | pixelma | diff links work again... |
| 22:38:01 | amiconn | Styles in viewvc |
| 22:38:33 | amiconn | Tthe ones in the build table don't |
| 22:39:08 | amiconn | Oh, and the redirect to the new build table is *ugly* |
| 22:39:21 | maxwell | Sorry guys, got another question: how can I enable the display of album artwork? the covers are saved in the tags... |
| 22:39:29 | Zagor | amiconn: haha, since when do you care more for style over substance? ;) |
| 22:39:36 | petur | heh |
| 22:39:52 | amiconn | Zagor: The ugliyness is related to e.g. load times |
| 22:39:53 | Mikachu | maxwell: you can't! |
| 22:40:25 | maxwell | And if i use .jpg files instead? |
| 22:40:41 | amiconn | Click ... "This stuff is now here" ... wait ... build table displays |
| 22:40:52 | Mikachu | i think they have to be .bmp, and you still have to use a patched build |
| 22:41:00 | amiconn | And no side menu to directly select another section |
| 22:41:30 | maxwell | Got a patched build |
| 22:41:50 | amiconn | The viewvc bug with author names > 10 chars is also irritating |
| 22:43:24 | Zagor | well, there is a reason we say the transition is still in progress |
| 22:43:35 | amiconn | yes, sure |
| 22:44:29 | amiconn | My comment "doing the second step before the first" was related to the branches idea vs. the not even finished transition |
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| 22:52:39 | webguest46 | can someone plz help |
| 22:52:50 | webguest46 | I cant find out how to add songs with Rockbox on |
| 22:52:59 | webguest46 | I wanna listen with rockbox |
| 22:53:03 | webguest46 | where i put songs |
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| 22:53:14 | preglow | webguest46: on the player |
| 22:53:15 | preglow | anywhere |
| 22:53:22 | webguest46 | o |
| 22:53:28 | webguest46 | do i make a music folder |
| 22:53:33 | preglow | webguest46: like i said, anywhere |
| 22:53:33 | webguest46 | .rockbox/music |
| 22:53:38 | webguest46 | ??? |
| 22:53:44 | preglow | webguest46: preferably not in .rockbox, but hey, if you really want to |
| 22:53:47 | dan_a | webguest46: If you want. Anywhere. |
| 22:54:00 | preglow | as long as you remember where it is |
| 22:54:02 | preglow | i use /Music |
| 22:54:09 | webguest46 | thats it? |
| 22:54:12 | preglow | that's on my ipod at least |
| 22:54:13 | petur | most do I think |
| 22:54:28 | preglow | on my ordinary, i just stuff music straight on the root, with categories like Rock, Electronic, etc |
| 22:54:36 | preglow | eh, s/ordinary/h120/ |
| 22:54:46 | preglow | i think i'd like a h140 now |
| 22:54:49 | preglow | i'm ready to upgrade |
| 22:54:59 | petur | /music/A/Artist/Album/song.mp3 here |
| 22:55:02 | preglow | i've got a feeling i'll miss this thing when it breaks |
| 22:55:14 | preglow | /Genre/Artist/Album here |
| 22:55:42 | preglow | my nano is small enough that i just put everything straight in /Music |
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| 22:56:44 | Llorean | Alright, Senior Editor at PopSci responded to me, we're gonna see about getting some things fixed for the web version of the article. |
| 22:56:44 | petur | that reminds me of looking again for that 80GB disk, my 40GB is full :( |
| 22:57:02 | preglow | Llorean: anything up? |
| 22:57:05 | Llorean | preglow: Pardon? |
| 22:57:14 | preglow | Llorean: is anything up? |
| 22:57:32 | preglow | which article? |
| 22:57:35 | Llorean | Well, there was an article on Rockbox in Popular Science. |
| 22:57:42 | preglow | oh? cool |
| 22:57:46 | preglow | and inaccuracies? :/ |
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| 22:57:56 | Llorean | It had some rather significant errors (pointed to the Archos 2.5 download page, and told people they needed to download both mpegplayer and jpeg viewer) |
| 22:58:09 | preglow | got an url of some kind for this? |
| 22:58:28 | Llorean | It's only in the print version at the moment, I think someone scanned it in our forums. Lemme find that |
| 22:58:48 | petur | preglow: search todayslog for scan00 |
| 22:58:51 | preglow | okies |
| 22:58:53 | Llorean | preglow: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=8201.0 |
| 22:59:20 | preglow | petur: that yielded what you just said :PP |
| 22:59:22 | preglow | Llorean: thanks |
| 22:59:26 | Llorean | It's really not that bad, but those last two points about mpeg and jpeg are gonna create a storm of "Where do I download" posts considering how many readers they have. |
| 22:59:41 | petur | frrrr |
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| 22:59:52 | Llorean | Hopefully at least getting that fixed before the web version of the article goes up will help a little bit. |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:38 | preglow | still, the publicity is cool |
| 23:01:01 | Llorean | Very |
| 23:01:08 | Llorean | They have a lot of readers. |
| 23:01:21 | preglow | indeed |
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| 23:02:18 | webguest46 | Where are the songs in iTunes put? |
| 23:03:20 | preglow | haha |
| 23:03:26 | preglow | rockbox.org/twiki is obviously the place to be |
| 23:03:39 | dan_a | webguest46: In a hidden folder called iPod_Control\Music |
| 23:03:43 | Llorean | preglow: Aye, they said they shortened it to that for space, and felt users could find their way from there. |
| 23:03:44 | fasmaie | webguest46: uaually in /User/'youruername/Music/iTunes .....or something like that |
| 23:03:53 | fasmaie | usually, even |
| 23:04:12 | dan_a | webguest46: iTunes gives your songs odd names, though |
| 23:04:23 | preglow | Llorean: then i'd rather use plain rockbox.org |
| 23:04:38 | fasmaie | dan_a: Not on the computer |
| 23:04:55 | fasmaie | at least, not i my case |
| 23:04:57 | fasmaie | in |
| 23:05:16 | linuxstb_ | Doesn't itunes have an option to not copy files when you import them? |
| 23:05:28 | dan_a | fasmaie: I was guessing that webguest46 was talking about on the iPod - based on his/her earlier messages |
| 23:05:36 | Llorean | preglow: Well, those links may end up removed entirely, since all of them are for downloading things that don't exist. |
| 23:05:53 | fasmaie | dan_a: sorry about that |
| 23:05:57 | preglow | still, all good, i'd say |
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| 23:06:11 | preglow | i really wouldn't have expected to see rockbox mentioned in popular science |
| 23:06:14 | webguest46 | Can I have a video as a background? |
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| 23:06:15 | dan_a | fasmaie: It's OK - I might have been mistaken :D |
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| 23:06:30 | MadCow | Hey can somebody help me with a compiling problem? |
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| 23:07:27 | linuxstb_ | webguest46: You can have one frame from a video as a background. |
| 23:07:27 | dan_a | MadCow: If it's Rockbox... |
| 23:07:27 | Llorean | preglow: I knew it was coming, because one of their fact checkers asked on the forums how much disk a typical install takes up, and mentioned it'd be running in February's issue. |
| 23:07:46 | preglow | Llorean: they have fact checkers, posh! |
| 23:07:46 | MadCow | dan_a: what's that supposed to mean? |
| 23:08:08 | preglow | that's more than your run-of-the-mill publication does these days :P |
| 23:08:20 | linuxstb_ | I guess that means they have lawyers... |
| 23:08:21 | Llorean | preglow: I'm kinda hoping they don't pay 'em much. Heh. |
| 23:08:28 | preglow | though i may be somewhat biased after reading norwegian newspapers |
| 23:08:41 | dan_a | MadCow: If your problem is with compiling Rockbox, then this is an appropriate place to ask, and someone will help you (me if I know how) |
| 23:08:46 | MadCow | oh OK |
| 23:08:59 | webguest46 | Is it possible to add a normal game to Rockbox? |
| 23:09:04 | webguest46 | Like Stepmania |
| 23:09:04 | preglow | webguest46: normal? |
| 23:09:17 | preglow | well, sure, just fire up your editor and start coding |
| 23:09:18 | webguest46 | Something that isnt .rock but you change it to |
| 23:09:24 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox can't run WIndows applications, if that's what you mean. |
| 23:09:31 | webguest46 | darn |
| 23:09:34 | * | n1s loves that people are actualy submitting patches for the manual :-) |
| 23:09:39 | preglow | n1s: i love it |
| 23:09:45 | webguest46 | Then can you customize the keyboard? |
| 23:09:54 | MadCow | I built a Gigabeat sim and compiled a normal build perfectly, but whenever I try to run a plugin with it it gives me an "Invalid ELF header"error |
| 23:10:01 | Llorean | n1s: I love the ones that are like "Here, I made this game work on this target and update the manual for it too" |
| 23:10:08 | Llorean | Patches that aren't specifically too the manual, but include it. |
| 23:10:11 | preglow | n1s: it tickles me greatly that converting the manual to latex worked as intended |
| 23:10:19 | n1s | yeah those are nice |
| 23:10:33 | Mikachu | what was it before? |
| 23:10:42 | preglow | openoffice, afaik |
| 23:10:46 | n1s | preglow: indeed |
| 23:12:29 | n1s | webguest46: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/LoadableKeyboardLayouts |
| 23:12:54 | DataGhost | linuxstb_ you might want to go to the ipl channel |
| 23:12:59 | DataGhost | I just got ipl working on a 5.5G 80GB |
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| 23:13:05 | n1s | nice |
| 23:13:10 | MadCow | cool |
| 23:13:10 | DataGhost | thx :) |
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| 23:13:17 | LinusN | nice |
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| 23:13:43 | bluebrother | so ... the interesting question is: what was the problem? |
| 23:13:48 | dan_a | DataGhost: Is it 100% working? The picture on the thread looks like it's booting but not working properly |
| 23:13:58 | DataGhost | there is another picture? |
| 23:14:03 | DataGhost | that's settings -> about |
| 23:14:08 | DataGhost | it doesnt see my music partition yet |
| 23:14:14 | DataGhost | but I only changed the starting sector |
| 23:14:18 | DataGhost | not the ending sector |
| 23:14:22 | DataGhost | maybe it thinks it's invalid |
| 23:14:28 | DataGhost | but I've got podzilla working :) |
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| 23:15:17 | linuxstb_ | DataGhost: So after all this time, IPL's ATA driver works fine? |
| 23:15:27 | MadCow | just in case nobody saw what I wrote before: |
| 23:15:27 | DataGhost | I guess so, yes |
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| 23:15:28 | MadCow | I built a Gigabeat sim and compiled a normal build perfectly, but whenever I try to run a plugin with it it gives me an "Invalid ELF header"error |
| 23:15:41 | MadCow | what the hell does "Invalid ELF Header" mean? |
| 23:15:45 | DataGhost | I'm using a kernel snapshot from a few days ago linuxstb_ |
| 23:16:01 | Llorean | MadCow: It means exactly what it says... the ELF Header is invalid (or absent but expected to be there) |
| 23:16:03 | DataGhost | 2007-01-06-kernel.bin |
| 23:16:06 | DataGhost | i'll put that in my post too |
| 23:16:10 | linuxstb_ | MadCow: Did you copy the plugins from a normal build into the sim? |
| 23:16:22 | MadCow | Yea |
| 23:16:42 | linuxstb_ | Delete them, and type "make install" in your sim build directory instead. |
| 23:16:52 | MadCow | OK thanks |
| 23:17:05 | MadCow | I thought that sim and normal build were interchangable |
| 23:17:25 | petur | nah... different cpu ;) |
| 23:17:28 | linuxstb_ | Far from it. The sim is compiled to run on your PC (e.g. x86), and the normal build runs on the target (e.g. ARM) |
| 23:17:54 | * | bluebrother just reads barrywardell commited a patch to cvs ;-) |
| 23:17:54 | linuxstb_ | Plus all the other differences... It's a simulator, not an emulator. |
| 23:18:14 | MadCow | I know, I wasn't thinking |
| 23:18:26 | MadCow | well now it works, thanks |
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| 23:20:58 | linuxstb_ | DataGhost: The IPL kernel very rarely changes, so I'm sure older versions would work fine as well. |
| 23:21:19 | DataGhost | well ok |
| 23:21:28 | DataGhost | but I just put it in there if at all relevant :) |
| 23:21:58 | LinusN | DataGhost: your screenshots show plenty ot ATA errors |
| 23:22:15 | DataGhost | hm? the old ones I guess :) |
| 23:22:24 | DataGhost | that was before I changed the partition table |
| 23:22:25 | debauched_slot1 | MadCow: this is running the Sim or running GB plugins on the GB? |
| 23:22:27 | Llorean | LinusN: I'd say the fact that iPL got loaded at all is a good sign considering we couldn't even access the disk in the pass. |
| 23:22:29 | Llorean | past. |
| 23:22:48 | DataGhost | that first screeny was without any userland LinusN |
| 23:23:01 | DataGhost | and the error I see on there was before it read the partitiontable I guess |
| 23:23:13 | LinusN | i mean these shots: http://web.inf.tu-dresden.de/~s5242253/80gb_ipod/index.html |
| 23:23:20 | DataGhost | oh, those are not mine :) |
| 23:23:24 | DataGhost | and I got them too, yes |
| 23:23:32 | DataGhost | with the old partitiontable |
| 23:23:46 | DataGhost | with 32120 instead of 128520 |
| 23:23:51 | DataGhost | as starting sector |
| 23:24:13 | LinusN | so you can read the partition table? |
| 23:25:15 | LinusN | we didn't even get that far |
| 23:26:19 | webguest46 | How do I listen to the songs in my iPod using Rockbox? |
| 23:26:32 | LinusN | webguest46: with your headphones :-P |
| 23:26:40 | Llorean | webguest46: By one of the many ways described in the manual. |
| 23:26:56 | linuxstb_ | Or the IpodFAQ wiki page. |
| 23:26:59 | webguest46 | ... |
| 23:27:05 | webguest46 | cant find in the manual |
| 23:27:05 | Llorean | That's a handy page too, yes. |
| 23:27:10 | webguest46 | and they are so hard to understand |
| 23:27:25 | Llorean | webguest46: Since we wrote the manual, do you think we'll be any easier to understand? |
| 23:27:38 | webguest46 | Yeah |
| 23:28:01 | Llorean | I'm afraid I'm going to have to question whatever logical progression took you to that point. |
| 23:28:02 | * | bluebrother just reads VirtualBox to become open source |
| 23:28:20 | Llorean | webguest46: If you can't find it in the manual, how do you know that those instructions are hard to understand? |
| 23:28:22 | webguest46 | k I put a folder called music on the top of my ipod and with music inside |
| 23:28:22 | dan_a | webguest46: Can you tell us *what* in the manual is hard to understand, so that we can make it better? |
| 23:28:32 | bluebrother | maybe that would be a nice thing like the vmware image |
| 23:28:38 | webguest46 | Where is it? |
| 23:28:46 | Llorean | webguest46: Have you looked at the index? |
| 23:28:50 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 23:28:50 | webguest46 | Where? |
| 23:28:53 | webguest46 | ... |
| 23:28:55 | Llorean | In the manual... |
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| 23:29:01 | webguest46 | I mean in my iPod |
| 23:29:05 | bluebrother | theres a prominent link on the left side of the website |
| 23:29:06 | Bagder | weirdly enough, it is called 'manual' in the menu of the web site |
| 23:29:27 | bluebrother | why should it be on your ipod if you haven't downloaded it? |
| 23:29:45 | Llorean | webguest46: I thought you knew where the manual was. You said it was confusing. |
| 23:30:42 | webguest46 | .... If I put the songs in a folder called Music on the top of my iPod where are they when I turn on Rockbox? |
| 23:30:57 | Llorean | webguest46: Rockbox doesn't move them, they're still there. |
| 23:31:09 | webguest46 | Then how will I listen to them? |
| 23:31:21 | Llorean | webguest46: Read. The. Manual. |
| 23:31:25 | bluebrother | by seleting a file and pressing "select" |
| 23:31:25 | linuxstb_ | The first screen you see in Rockbox (unless you've changed a setting) is the file browser. You just browse to a file and select it. |
| 23:31:43 | dan_a | webguest46: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 23:31:50 | linuxstb_ | Rockbox will then play all the files in that folder, starting with the one ou selected. |
| 23:31:52 | * | bluebrother remembers that great golden quote by Bagder some days ago ... |
| 23:31:59 | webguest46 | Okay. |
| 23:32:00 | webguest46 | Thanks |
| 23:32:08 | MrRocks | Hi |
| 23:32:10 | webguest46 | At least SOME of the staff memberes are useful. |
| 23:32:21 | Llorean | webguest46: Why do you outright refuse to read the manual? |
| 23:32:21 | MrRocks | I have just one question, not to bug you too much |
| 23:32:27 | webguest46 | I already did |
| 23:32:30 | webguest46 | I just can find it |
| 23:32:32 | webguest46 | cant |
| 23:32:45 | Llorean | webguest46: So, did you look at the table of contents? |
| 23:32:46 | webguest46 | Tons of times |
| 23:32:52 | MrRocks | Is there work being done to port rockbox to the 2nd Gen ipod? |
| 23:32:52 | w1ll14m | is it possible to use the audio out as an alternative for headphone jack (can adjust volume like normal jack) |
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| 23:32:58 | Llorean | webguest46: Specifically, what about chapter 4's title suggested it WASN'T about how to play music? |
| 23:33:04 | linuxstb_ | MrRocks: Assuming you mean the 2nd Generation Nano, No. |
| 23:33:20 | webguest46 | I didnt understand it |
| 23:33:31 | Llorean | webguest46: You said you couldn't find it. |
| 23:33:37 | Llorean | Now you say you didn't understand it. |
| 23:33:51 | webguest46 | ... |
| 23:33:52 | MrRocks | linuxstb: Yes, I meant that. Thanks. :( |
| 23:33:55 | webguest46 | I read it. |
| 23:33:58 | Llorean | I'm a little confused. |
| 23:34:02 | Llorean | What couldn't you find then? |
| 23:34:12 | dan_a | webguest46: Can you tell us what was hard to understand, and now that you know what to do how we could have written it clearer? |
| 23:34:14 | webguest46 | I read it but if I couldnt understand it then how could I be sure it was what I needed ? |
| 23:34:32 | bluebrother | I don't understand this problem. |
| 23:34:38 | webguest46 | The Manual can use more examples |
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| 23:35:16 | w1ll14m | Llorean: is it possible to use dock connector audio out as an alternative for headphone jack so you can adjust the volume the same way as headphone jack ? |
| 23:35:33 | Zer0 | does anyone know wut formats of music are supported for rockbox |
| 23:35:45 | Bagder | wut formats? |
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| 23:35:51 | Bagder | it mainly plays music formats |
| 23:35:51 | Zer0 | .wma |
| 23:36:03 | Zer0 | .mp3 |
| 23:36:03 | Zer0 | stuff like taht |
| 23:36:07 | Zer0 | .wma doesnt work |
| 23:36:09 | Llorean | w1ll14m: With a few source code changes, yes. |
| 23:36:19 | davidsmind | what DB settings are optimal for the Iriver h10 20gig? |
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| 23:36:28 | Bagder | Zer0: read the SoundCodecs wiki page for all the details |
| 23:36:40 | davidsmind | does load to ram stop all hard drive based caching? |
| 23:36:43 | Llorean | davidsmind: Depends greatly on how you use it. Whether you want it in RAM or not depends on how much you browse. |
| 23:36:51 | Zer0 | Badger: got a link please |
| 23:36:54 | davidsmind | lots of files, it's gonna be full |
| 23:37:01 | davidsmind | 20 gigs worth of oggs |
| 23:37:06 | Bagder | no I don't, you can get it as easy as I can |
| 23:37:20 | davidsmind | some browsing |
| 23:37:22 | scorche | Zer0: go to the wiki, and then type SoundCodecs in the box at the top...it isnt hard |
| 23:37:25 | Llorean | davidsmind: "How much you browse" as in "How often you move around the database view" |
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| 23:37:32 | davidsmind | Llorean: a lot |
| 23:37:37 | Zer0 | k |
| 23:37:38 | Zer0 | ty |
| 23:37:39 | Llorean | davidsmind: You should do it in RAM then |
| 23:37:53 | davidsmind | will that NOT load into the hd? |
| 23:38:00 | w1ll14m | Llorean: can you give me some hints i should look for ? |
| 23:38:08 | Llorean | w1ll14m: I honestly have no clue. |
| 23:38:17 | w1ll14m | Llorean: to bad :) thanx anyway ;) |
| 23:38:37 | Llorean | davidsmind: It still gets stored on the HD, but when Rockbox is running it stays in RAM so the disk doesn't need to spin up for you to be able to browse. |
| 23:39:30 | davidsmind | How long does DB initialization take usually? These are probably questions that should be in the h10 faq... |
| 23:39:39 | davidsmind | for 300+ files |
| 23:40:18 | davidsmind | hrmm...I don't think this is working. It's been over 3 minutes now, and it still says db not ready |
| 23:40:24 | Llorean | davidsmind: Nobody's timed it reliably yet. |
| 23:40:30 | Llorean | You shouldn't be trying to use it while it's initializing |
| 23:40:37 | Zer0 | no results found |
| 23:40:39 | davidsmind | is there a way to get a progress meter |
| 23:40:45 | Llorean | davidsmind: When disk activity stops. |
| 23:40:52 | Llorean | And you do have to shut down and start up afterward. |
| 23:41:08 | Zer0 | SoundCodecs yealds no results |
| 23:41:13 | scorche | Zer0: we included the capitalization the way we did for a reason |
| 23:41:24 | Bagder | SoundCodecs is there |
| 23:41:24 | Zer0 | nvm |
| 23:41:26 | Zer0 | sorry |
| 23:41:26 | Zer0 | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs |
| 23:41:30 | Zer0 | got it |
| 23:41:32 | davidsmind | [14:40] <Llorean> And you do have to shut down and start up afterward. |
| 23:41:33 | davidsmind | aaah |
| 23:41:34 | Zer0 | tried google |
| 23:41:46 | davidsmind | but only after initilization |
| 23:41:52 | Llorean | davidsmind: Yes, initialization must complete. |
| 23:41:53 | scorche | why didnt you just do what i said? |
| 23:42:12 | davidsmind | but then updating doesn't require a reboot right? |
| 23:42:55 | Llorean | davidsmind: I don't really know any more, honestly |
| 23:46:21 | w1ll14m | I'm gonna sleep :) cya later guys |
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| 23:52:44 | scorche | Bagder: i have some free time...how does one go about building mi4code into a windows binary? |
| 23:53:57 | scorche | as in, is there an option for gcc or something? |
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