00:00:00 | midgey | i didnt make any changes to emu.c |
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00:01:56 | barrywardell | i'm not sure whether it should block you committing the rest of the patch though. It could be a separate bug that I have uncovered |
00:02:18 | argonel | anyone know what the CPU frequency of an e200 is? |
00:03:02 | barrywardell | up to 100MHz i think |
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00:03:44 | perldiver | Nico_P a bit confusing |
00:03:58 | perldiver | if you have any advices that wold be great |
00:04:11 | argonel | hmm, the stock firmware seems very slow when playing a 320k file |
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00:08:49 | midkay | i'm here actually.. perldiver? did you want me? |
00:09:19 | perldiver | yes, about the brickmania menu screen... |
00:09:32 | midkay | ah yes.. i have to go right now but i can do that in about 45m. |
00:09:32 | perldiver | gigabeat target |
00:09:52 | perldiver | ok, wondered if you needed any bitmaps |
00:10:00 | midkay | gotta log off too for that time, so maybe i'll see you here in a bit.. |
00:10:03 | Nico_P | perldiver: what kind of advice ? |
00:10:05 | midkay | nah, it's under control, thanks :) |
00:10:09 | midkay | be back soon |
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00:10:27 | perldiver | Nico_P where i should paste the rej |
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00:15:28 | Nico_P | to the place where it was supposed to be (the rej indicates line numers), before or after the code that was added by the other patch at the same place |
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00:16:01 | perldiver | ok thanks |
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00:52:25 | terinjokes | ok, I'm going to give compiling rb a shot :D |
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00:55:49 | midgey | barrywardell: you available to test a patch real quick |
00:55:55 | barrywardell | yup |
00:56:04 | midgey | http://www.pastebin.ca/329714 |
00:56:27 | midgey | that probably wont fix the problem, but its worth a try |
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01:03:02 | barrywardell | midgey: doesn't make any difference unfortunately :( |
01:03:23 | midgey | darn, and here i was hoping for an easy solution |
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01:06:07 | lostlogic | so I get home and sit down to take a look at why MoB defeated me last time |
01:06:33 | lostlogic | and it all comes rushing back to me. it sucks, because it's damn near impossible to know what chunk of data to hand to the WPS |
01:07:37 | barrywardell | midgey: I find it very strange how it runs perfectly the second time i run rockboy??? |
01:08:05 | midgey | barrywardell: so do I and its annoying that I can't reproduce it in the sim |
01:11:55 | midgey | anyone know if the same bug is present in the iAudio or Nano? |
01:14:15 | * | midgey goes off to eat |
01:15:35 | Llorean | What bug? |
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01:18:56 | terinjokes | hey Thundercloud! |
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01:21:36 | Llorean | barrywardell: What bug were you and midgey discussing? I'm having a hard time finding something in the logs. |
01:22:28 | pixelma | Llorean: he said he put a lengthy comment in the trecker (about rockboy on H10) |
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01:22:37 | pixelma | err... tracker |
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01:23:43 | Llorean | pixelma: Thanks |
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01:24:46 | Sn0vv | Hello All |
01:24:59 | Sn0vv | Hello all |
01:25:49 | Sn0vv | ppl here but no one talking? |
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01:26:16 | Llorean | Sn0vv: This is a support / development channel. Talk happens when people are working on something or when people need help |
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01:26:46 | Sn0vv | oh...well i helped and donated and need some help as well |
01:27:11 | Llorean | Well go ahead 'n ask your question, and what help as may come will come. |
01:27:40 | BiptoN | barrywardell: have you run any COP builds yet? |
01:28:13 | Sn0vv | <<<ipod 30g video all the themes for my ipod type are all jumbled.......time text slightly out of alignment |
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01:28:37 | Llorean | Sn0vv: Have you downloaded the fonts package? |
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01:29:09 | Sn0vv | so each require a font or i have to download one big font package? |
01:29:22 | Llorean | "the fonts package" |
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01:31:29 | Sn0vv | I believe i am having difficulties finding that the link in the pdf led to the daily build section |
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01:32:33 | Llorean | The fonts package download is on the Daily Build page, yes |
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01:33:22 | Sn0vv | ahhhhh its small and blends in my sleepiness |
01:34:19 | XavierGr | what does MoB stands for? Metadata on Buffer? |
01:34:22 | Sn0vv | oh how i longed for the ipod to have a drag and drop type system |
01:34:41 | Llorean | XavierGr: Yes |
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01:37:41 | ibeef | hi |
01:37:51 | Sn0vv | hi |
01:38:16 | ibeef | does anybody know where i can get the ipodpatcher 0.5 source code |
01:38:21 | midkay | perldiver: ok, i'm back. |
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01:40:08 | ibeef | does anybody know where i can get the ipodpatcher 0.5 source code? |
01:40:18 | Llorean | ibeef: You asked that less than 2 minutes ago. |
01:40:59 | ibeef | sorry i got a glichy irc client |
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01:42:13 | linuxstb_ | ibeef: It's in SVN - the tools/ipodpatcher/ directory. |
01:42:30 | ibeef | thanks |
01:42:37 | ibeef | bye |
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01:43:24 | * | Llorean learns that on iPods, Rockbox Error: -5 means "You've put an iPod Video build on your nano, you fool!" |
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01:43:40 | linuxstb_ | How did Linus write that? |
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01:43:50 | Llorean | I'm not sure |
01:44:06 | Llorean | I learned it because I always type 22, then backspace and change it to 21, and forgot to do so, during configure |
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01:44:19 | linuxstb_ | Ah, "Bad checksum". |
01:44:28 | Snorglorf | Hey everyone |
01:44:56 | Snorglorf | Sorry for the stupid newb question, but I really have looked everywhere, for the past 45 minutes or so. I feel so stupid.... Where do I download the plugins? |
01:45:05 | Nico_P | perldiver: how's it with the patches ? |
01:45:07 | amiconn | grr |
01:45:08 | linuxstb_ | You don't download them. |
01:45:30 | amiconn | Viewvc doesn't like to properly display BMPs when viewing it |
01:45:30 | linuxstb_ | They're included in the main rockbox.zip. |
01:45:31 | Snorglorf | Well how do I get them? |
01:45:37 | amiconn | Viewcvs did... |
01:45:39 | Snorglorf | Oh :\ |
01:45:45 | Snorglorf | I'm confused |
01:46:38 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: I noticed that today. Maybe it's a mime-type issue though - I noticed the new bitmaps are applicate/octet-stream |
01:46:49 | amiconn | PNG works |
01:46:55 | Llorean | midgey: I can change options in the option menu without the crashes, on iPod Nano |
01:47:11 | midgey | hmm |
01:47:33 | barrywardell | Llorean: and can you exit the menu ok? |
01:47:39 | Llorean | barrywardell: Yup |
01:47:40 | midgey | i wonder what causes the bug on the H10 |
01:47:55 | Llorean | I tried changing the Display Stats option, and switching to scaled mode. |
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01:49:33 | midkay | trying a new brickmania menu, any thoughts? http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9900/brickmaniamenubg320x240rl2.jpg |
01:50:07 | barrywardell | midgey: i think a test on X5 would be quite revealing as it has the same lcd size as the H10 |
01:50:26 | midgey | you're on the 20GB right? |
01:50:30 | Llorean | midkay: Will this one actually highlight the selected option instead of looking like it's trying to highlight everything *but* the selected one? |
01:50:39 | Paprica | midkay, i dont love it |
01:50:42 | Paprica | :) |
01:51:00 | midgey | i'd be interested to see if the H10 5/6 GB has the same issue |
01:51:01 | barrywardell | yup, 20GB, 160x128. |
01:51:02 | midkay | Llorean: yes. :) Paprica: you're here! :) |
01:51:13 | Paprica | yess.. im here.. :P |
01:51:22 | Paprica | but dont have too much time... |
01:51:24 | Llorean | I do think that's pretty bland though |
01:51:33 | * | midkay ponders.. |
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01:52:48 | Llorean | midgey: Oh, and I was using the rockboy4 patch from the tracker. |
01:52:54 | midkay | would an alternate background change that? i don't really have any ideas. |
01:53:10 | Llorean | midkay: I think it's more the font choice, and the word "BrickMania" itself |
01:53:19 | midgey | Llorean: i figured as much, the pastebin one just reverted some of HCl's changes |
01:53:36 | tanq | ok so is there any real documentation besides code that tells the format of the different databases |
01:53:39 | Llorean | midkay: If you took the word Brickmania, dropped the underline, and cycled it letter by letter through the colors of bricks... |
01:53:49 | midkay | ooh :) |
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01:54:11 | amiconn | Llorean: Why do you configure every time? |
01:54:38 | * | amiconn has one build directory for every target he has, plus some extra ones for test builds |
01:55:42 | Llorean | amiconn: When I swap around patches, I wipe the build directory just to head off the rare weirdness. |
01:56:08 | amiconn | Hmm, wouldn't 'make clean' be enough in that case? |
01:56:16 | Llorean | Usually is. |
01:56:31 | Llorean | But I got into the habit of doing it for some reason. |
01:56:48 | Soap | aarrgghh - I'm probably stupid, but the latest commit breaks the latest COP patch. |
01:57:15 | Sn0vv | when the ipod says buffer full should ibe worried?? |
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01:59:06 | Sn0vv | .... |
01:59:24 | midkay | Llorean, Paprica: changed a bit... http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4290/brickmaniamenubg320x240ad3.jpg |
01:59:42 | midkay | also more how it would look with "resume game" selected from the menu, the others deselected. |
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02:00:20 | amiconn | Hmm, blackjack seems to have problems |
02:00:33 | amiconn | On H300 I only see a blank screen when starting it |
02:00:36 | Llorean | Sn0vv: It just means you've probably set your max files in folder option too low. |
02:00:46 | Llorean | You should probably organize your music better. |
02:02:15 | Soap | start giving users fancy menus in the pluggins, and they'll expect a GUI everywhere! ;) |
02:02:34 | Sn0vv | my ipod just froze |
02:02:50 | terinjokes | Soap: new advance GUI, where! |
02:02:54 | terinjokes | :D |
02:04:09 | Llorean | midkay: What you SHOULD do is expand the Menu API to include the option for a bitmap header ("Brickmania") and center aligned text. :-P |
02:04:33 | midgey | amiconn: seems to work fine here |
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02:04:38 | midkay | haha, yeah right.. :) |
02:04:49 | argonel | ok, got rid of my e250 :) |
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02:09:09 | Nico_P | ok i'm leaving |
02:09:24 | Nico_P | going on ski vacation :) |
02:09:34 | Nico_P | cu in a week |
02:09:55 | midkay | Llorean, Paprica: http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9279/brickmaniamenubg320x240av9.jpg |
02:10:12 | Nico_P | feel free to commit my ptaches :) |
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02:10:34 | midgey | midkay: it kind of reminds me of playdoh |
02:10:52 | midkay | haha. the header does to me too.. |
02:11:10 | midkay | but apparently it needs visual ... stuff! :) |
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02:11:30 | Soap | blig |
02:11:52 | Soap | bling even |
02:12:43 | Llorean | I kinda liked the black text, colorful title version |
02:13:03 | midkay | is Paprica still around? |
02:13:03 | midgey | midkay: what was wrong with the old graphics? |
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02:13:49 | midkay | midgey: nothing in particular, i just felt like trying new ones (added bonus of making the gigabeat ones easier to create). |
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02:14:54 | midkay | actually i never personally really liked the tiled tiny bright-blue bricks in the back. but i wouldn't think of changing it if Paprica wasn't totally happy with a proposed alternative. |
02:15:17 | midgey | ah ok, i think the graphics it are quite nice actually |
02:15:29 | barrywardell | BiptoN: yes, I have tried the cop patch on my H10. I think I left a comment in the tracker with my results |
02:15:41 | midkay | midgey: "the graphics" meaning.. the title screen? |
02:15:54 | midgey | yep, call me strange |
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02:17:52 | midkay | wouldn't think of it :) opinions differ. |
02:20:11 | midgey | amiconn: i just tried a fresh build on my H320 and I don't have that problem |
02:20:30 | BiptoN | barrywardell: do you have an idea of why recording may not work? |
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02:20:52 | barrywardell | it does work |
02:21:28 | BiptoN | when i bark off recording on my 4g ipod with cop it freezes |
02:21:37 | webguest81 | wheres the rockbox svn |
02:21:43 | linuxstb_ | svn.rockbox.org |
02:21:51 | webguest81 | ok |
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02:22:05 | linuxstb_ | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsingSVN |
02:22:08 | barrywardell | oh, with the cop patch. were you trying to move recording on to the cop? |
02:22:21 | BiptoN | i tried it where it was |
02:22:27 | BiptoN | and also i tried it on the cop |
02:22:37 | BiptoN | it took forever to shutdown when it was on the cop |
02:22:45 | BiptoN | froze both ways though |
02:23:20 | barrywardell | i haven't tried recording with the cop patch |
02:23:50 | perldiver | is there something can be done about the "grey'ish" screen that appears before the file browser on boot (on gigabeat at least) |
02:24:00 | barrywardell | so i'm not sure why that would be happening |
02:24:08 | linuxstb_ | BiptoN: Have you tested recording a) with a standard SVN build and b) with only the COP patch and no other changes? |
02:24:38 | BiptoN | no other change except cop on an svn build, yes |
02:24:41 | linuxstb_ | perldiver: I guess that's something to do with the bootloader splash that was implemented. |
02:25:03 | BiptoN | that cop really helps out |
02:25:17 | BiptoN | i get 2 more hours battery life with it and scaling on |
02:25:28 | BiptoN | opposed to pushin 4 hours |
02:25:41 | linuxstb_ | So you normally have no scaling? |
02:25:50 | perldiver | linuxstb well on my build from 0120 it doesnt appear for example, it does on the new one though again |
02:27:05 | perldiver | and i believe it existed before the splash as well |
02:27:34 | linuxstb_ | When exactly does it appear? Before the main Rockbox logo? |
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02:27:53 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I think he means the Toshiba progress bar loading screen |
02:27:57 | Llorean | Kinda like the Apple logo on the iPods |
02:28:16 | midkay | Llorean, Paprica: sorry to bug you, but one more. i took a look at the original again and it does have a.. dunno. a bit nicer feel to it. so i tried to more closely recreate it. http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/9612/brickmaniamenubg320x240ha5.jpg |
02:28:28 | Llorean | perldiver: Or are you talking about a brief light blue screen post-splash but before filetree? |
02:28:29 | perldiver | Llorean no not that one |
02:28:49 | perldiver | blue screen post-splash, correct |
02:29:02 | Llorean | midkay: I *really* don't like blue as the selection color and yellow as the normal color |
02:29:12 | Llorean | perldiver: That's the default backdrop color before the .cfg file is loaded. |
02:29:27 | midkay | Llorean: really? that's how it is in the original.. i chose nearly-identical colors. |
02:29:36 | Llorean | midkay: Yeah, I really really don't like the original. :) |
02:29:36 | perldiver | is there way to manually edit to black lets say? |
02:29:43 | amiconn | ah |
02:29:55 | * | amiconn now knows what's going on with blackjack |
02:30:04 | midkay | Llorean: haha, ah :) vice-versa would be better, or is there something else in mind? |
02:30:11 | linuxstb_ | perldiver: You can change the default colours in lcd.h (in firmware/export I think) |
02:30:11 | amiconn | midgey: Set a backdrop image and try again... |
02:30:15 | Llorean | perldiver: if the splash were in the Core instead of the Bootloader, the splash could simply stay onscreen until after the theme is loaded. |
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02:30:33 | perldiver | linuxstb let me check |
02:30:36 | Llorean | midkay: Inversing them would work fine for me |
02:30:46 | Llorean | Err swapping |
02:30:49 | midkay | let me see how that works out.. |
02:30:59 | perldiver | Llorean yeah, i bet |
02:31:13 | Llorean | midkay: "Yellow" to me is just hard-coded as a selection color is all. |
02:31:16 | Llorean | In my brain. |
02:31:24 | linuxstb_ | Llorean: I think if you are going to have a boot splash, it needs to be as early as possible - i.e. in the bootloader. |
02:31:32 | midkay | yeah, that makes sense. :) |
02:32:04 | Llorean | linuxstb_: Since it's loaded from disk, it could be in both places. Or the core could just not draw *anything* until after the .cfg is loaded. |
02:32:32 | linuxstb_ | Sure. |
02:33:05 | Llorean | I think the latter's probably better, that flash of "default" before the theme loads on boot is kinda weird lookin' |
02:33:50 | perldiver | whats that "blue" color code? |
02:33:58 | midkay | Llorean: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7744/brickmaniamenubg320x240lj7.jpg |
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02:34:10 | Llorean | midkay: Looks okay to me |
02:34:17 | midkay | any other thoughts? |
02:34:23 | linuxstb_ | perldiver: I don't know, but you need to look for LCD_DEFAULT_FG and LCD_DEFAULT_BG (IIRC) |
02:34:33 | perldiver | looking... |
02:34:49 | Llorean | midkay: Not really. I don't play Brickmania much. :) |
02:34:55 | midkay | Llorean: ok, thanks. :) |
02:35:00 | perldiver | aha, its called *rockbox-blue* |
02:35:01 | perldiver | :P |
02:35:19 | linuxstb_ | Yes, it's one of the blues from the website. |
02:35:28 | midkay | is midgey or (especially) Paprica around to comment? |
02:36:27 | midgey | seems decent, i think Paprica should have the final say and offer suggestions |
02:36:48 | midkay | definitely... but where is he.. :) |
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02:41:58 | webguest45 | hello all |
02:42:18 | BiptoN | hola |
02:42:29 | perldiver | midgey theres something not right about that screen though |
02:42:33 | webguest45 | anyone successfully hacked that ipod nano 2nd gen firmware yet? |
02:42:39 | perldiver | midkay, i mean |
02:42:55 | linuxstb_ | webguest45: not publically. |
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02:43:19 | webguest45 | so is someone working on it or has the firmware not even been cracked yet? |
02:43:52 | linuxstb_ | I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it. |
02:44:03 | webguest45 | what the os or cracking the firmware? |
02:44:10 | perldiver | the use of lime green and yellow, probably, just one of them would be enough |
02:44:30 | linuxstb_ | webguest45: Cracking the firmware. Nothing else can happen until that does. |
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02:45:39 | perldiver | so what happened with that "infamous" mp3 file ? |
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02:53:37 | midkay | perldiver: hmm.. let me see. |
02:53:49 | midkay | do you care for either in particular? |
02:53:59 | perldiver | id go with lime |
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02:54:30 | midkay | easy fix.. |
02:54:33 | midkay | http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7312/brickmaniamenubg320x240cr6.jpg |
02:55:00 | perldiver | yes, better |
02:55:17 | midkay | any other thoughts? |
02:56:35 | perldiver | well, it's clean and simple, doesnt really need anything |
02:57:15 | midkay | ok, thanks. :) |
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03:02:30 | perldiver | ok, another color question |
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03:02:54 | perldiver | the betting window in blackjack, is it black fixed? |
03:03:00 | perldiver | or can be changed as well? |
03:03:14 | perldiver | cause all my text is white |
03:03:40 | perldiver | linuxstb that worked btw, i have a black screen now before the file browser |
03:05:02 | midkay | perldiver: same here, needs to be fixed.. (blackjack white text) |
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03:33:30 | aliask | Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but wiki comparison pages don't seem to be working at the moment. |
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05:12:08 | Llorean | Would config loading care about CR/LF? |
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05:33:08 | safetydan | Llorean, it might. As far as I can tell from the read_line function it will handle \r\n and \n but I'm not sure about just straight \r |
05:33:16 | safetydan | though I don't think any sensible system uses |
05:33:18 | safetydan | just s\r |
05:33:23 | safetydan | lousy enter key |
05:36:06 | Llorean | Just trying to figure out why the guy on the mailing list doesn't have fixed.cfg working for him. |
05:37:14 | safetydan | it's a bit of a puzzle if everything is as he says |
05:37:41 | Llorean | Yeah |
05:37:47 | Llorean | I still suspect he's using the 25th build |
05:37:54 | Llorean | Since his problem started before the 26th build was available |
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07:19:05 | webguest92 | hi i compiled ipodpatcher at the svn with DevCpp and it came up with a bunch of linking errors |
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07:20:38 | Llorean | webguest92: It used to work for me. I don't *think* it's changed since then. Lemme check |
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07:21:01 | midkay | is there any reason anybody knows of why invadrox isn't committed yet? |
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07:23:08 | Llorean | webguest92: I have no problem compiling it at all with Dev-C++ |
07:23:36 | Llorean | All you do is add ipodpatcher.c and ipodio-win32.c to a project, and tell it to compile, and that's it. |
07:23:49 | webguest92 | o |
07:24:06 | webguest92 | i compiled it just with ipodpatcher |
07:24:11 | webguest92 | no wonder |
07:24:15 | webguest92 | thanks |
07:24:26 | Llorean | That whole "win32" thing is a bit of a hint. ;) |
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07:27:47 | Llorean | midkay: Does it use a custom menu, or normal menu code? |
07:28:01 | midkay | Llorean: no menus at all. |
07:28:27 | Llorean | Dunno |
07:28:39 | midkay | it's a really well-done game. i don't think there'd be any copyright problems... (?) |
07:29:23 | Llorean | Dunno |
07:29:39 | midkay | hrm. |
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07:30:09 | midkay | the aliens look nearly/exactly the same is all (probably drawn pixel-for-pixel to look like the original).. i wonder if that poses a problem. |
07:30:22 | Llorean | Probably does. |
07:32:25 | midkay | hm, there's a clone online (flash, i think) that specifically claims that it's an unofficial clone, and it uses identical bitmaps. |
07:32:57 | webguest92 | came back with not linker errors, but errors from ipodio_win32.c |
07:33:33 | Llorean | webguest92: Well, I have no problems compiling it in Dev-C++, at all |
07:33:44 | Llorean | I downloaded and checked before I responded to you. |
07:33:49 | Soap | Llorean: regarding the long persistent settings thread in the mailing list - could his problem be one of wrong/no line endings? |
07:34:06 | Llorean | Soap: I asked that in here. I was told windows and unix line endings should both be fine. |
07:34:16 | midkay | i guess i'd better ask the committers list or something. |
07:34:18 | Soap | poop. |
07:34:20 | webguest92 | Did you use one of the revs |
07:34:26 | Llorean | webguest92: What version of Dev-C++ do you have? |
07:34:31 | Llorean | "One of the revs"? |
07:34:34 | Soap | and lack of line endings? Easy to do on a one-line .cfg... |
07:34:58 | webguest92 | 4.9.9.2 |
07:35:13 | Llorean | Soap: I don't believe my one-line test had a line ending either. |
07:35:23 | Soap | double poop |
07:35:23 | * | Llorean goes to check |
07:35:32 | Llorean | webguest92: Same version here |
07:36:02 | webguest92 | I will try again |
07:36:59 | Llorean | webguest92: You've set the project to be a win32 console app? |
07:37:00 | webguest92 | maybe its the header files got messed |
07:37:07 | webguest92 | o |
07:37:11 | webguest92 | ok |
07:37:20 | webguest92 | i set it to empty |
07:37:28 | webguest92 | forgot about that |
07:37:34 | Llorean | Soap: Just tried with a single line one, hand typed |
07:37:46 | Llorean | Soap: No problem |
07:37:52 | safetydan | single line with no line feed or carriage return should work judging from the code |
07:38:33 | Llorean | safetydan: Already confirmed it does. :-P |
07:38:42 | safetydan | too fast for me :) |
07:38:52 | Llorean | That one was easy enough to just test. :) |
07:39:36 | Llorean | My bet is either on him not actually having the build from the 26th, or having made a typo somewhere. |
07:39:36 | perldiver | invadrox isnt committed? |
07:39:44 | perldiver | how come i have it on my player hmm |
07:40:45 | safetydan | perldiver, custom build maybe? It's not in SVN |
07:40:49 | Llorean | perldiver: Ever run an unofficial build at any point? |
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07:41:02 | perldiver | i compile myself |
07:41:06 | perldiver | maybe thats why |
07:41:07 | perldiver | but |
07:41:20 | perldiver | i have no memory of patching with invadrox |
07:42:09 | perldiver | maybe it was in svn at some point? |
07:42:09 | webguest92 | i tried setting it to a console app and it came up with the same errors |
07:42:45 | Llorean | webguest92: Paste the errors into a pastebin then. |
07:43:25 | webguest92 | how |
07:43:45 | Llorean | Can you select the text and copy it? |
07:43:58 | webguest92 | yea just paste it here? |
07:44:06 | Llorean | Not here |
07:44:09 | Llorean | In a pastebin. |
07:44:11 | Mouser_X | pastebin.ca |
07:44:16 | Llorean | Like http://pastebin.ca |
07:44:20 | webguest92 | ok |
07:44:21 | Llorean | Then paste a link to it here |
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07:46:52 | webguest92 | compile log? |
07:47:18 | Llorean | If it has the error messages you're referring to, sure. |
07:47:25 | webguest92 | ok |
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07:49:42 | webguest92 | http://pastebin.ca/329995 |
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07:51:40 | Llorean | webguest92: Why is there a main.cpp? |
07:52:12 | webguest92 | when i clicked on console it came up |
07:53:10 | webguest92 | i took it out and it came with the same errors |
07:53:31 | Llorean | I didn't tell you to start a new project of that type, I just asked if you were sure that the project properties had it set as a console app |
07:53:40 | webguest92 | o |
07:53:42 | webguest92 | wait |
07:54:09 | webguest92 | file>properties? |
07:54:48 | webguest92 | o |
07:54:59 | webguest92 | yea its a win32 console |
07:55:36 | webguest92 | i need the 2 header files right? |
07:56:27 | Llorean | The project should only have the two .c files I specified in it and nothing else is necessary. |
07:57:25 | Llorean | You don't change any other settings. |
07:57:37 | Llorean | Just create a new empty project, add those two files, rebuild all, and it should work. |
07:57:44 | webguest92 | i didnt include the header files but i got the 2 header files in the directory of the 2 .c files: ipodio.h and parttypes.h |
07:58:00 | Llorean | Yes, I know you have them. |
07:58:27 | Llorean | They're necessary but they don't need to be added to the dev-C++ project. |
07:58:42 | Llorean | Honestly, I'm not so sure about your error message. |
07:58:45 | Llorean | messages |
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07:58:56 | Llorean | Have you changed the files at all? |
07:58:58 | rocko | quick question |
07:59:04 | webguest92 | no |
07:59:16 | webguest92 | ill download them all again |
07:59:16 | Llorean | And how did you download them, exactly? What tool did you use? |
07:59:19 | webguest92 | to make sure |
07:59:26 | Llorean | rocko: Ask the question? |
07:59:37 | rocko | I have a 60gb photo ipod, I wanna boot into the regular firmware |
07:59:53 | webguest92 | i just used the browser |
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08:00:04 | Llorean | webguest92: What browser... |
08:00:17 | webguest92 | ie |
08:00:53 | Llorean | So you just browsed the ViewVC stuff, and downloaded there? |
08:00:59 | webguest92 | yes |
08:01:15 | Llorean | Try using a better method |
08:01:22 | webguest92 | such as... |
08:01:29 | Llorean | Either use an actual SVN tool to check out the sources, or just download the source tarball... |
08:01:49 | webguest92 | could you suggest a SVN tool |
08:01:56 | Llorean | Alright, stop. |
08:02:03 | Llorean | Why exactly are you trying to compile your own iPodPatcher? |
08:02:47 | webguest92 | to change it a little after a good compile....but i didnt add anything before this |
08:03:47 | Llorean | Just try downloading the source tarball for now, and see if you can get that to compile. |
08:04:20 | webguest92 | where is it |
08:04:28 | Llorean | On the SVN builds page. |
08:04:34 | webguest92 | ok |
08:04:35 | Llorean | What change are you trying to make to ipodpatcher? |
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08:05:48 | webguest92 | more to the scanning abilities |
08:06:45 | Llorean | Are you a programmer? |
08:07:00 | webguest92 | little bit |
08:07:13 | webguest92 | used to be experienced |
08:07:23 | Llorean | With C? |
08:07:26 | Llorean | Or C++? |
08:07:30 | webguest92 | but ive lost so much |
08:07:43 | webguest92 | both c and cpp |
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08:09:46 | webguest92 | now im readin back up on the books |
08:14:10 | Llorean | rocko: Did you ever have an actual question, or was that statement supposed to have suggested one? |
08:14:19 | webguest92 | thank you |
08:14:27 | webguest92 | perfect compile |
08:14:30 | Llorean | rocko: Because the manual does cover how to boot into the apple firmware. |
08:14:48 | Llorean | webguest92: Generally speaking, you shouldn't trust IE with anything. |
08:15:04 | webguest92 | guess not......... |
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09:16:50 | jenkins | ok so i just installed rockbox on my 5th gen ipod video but its not booting into rockbox at all, can anyone give me some help please? |
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09:19:49 | jenkins | i keep getting the rockboc error code -1 |
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09:20:52 | Llorean | You haven't followed the full instructions as they're written in the manual then |
09:21:19 | jenkins | i followed the installation instructions exactly |
09:21:51 | Llorean | No, you didn't if that's the error message you're getting. |
09:21:56 | Llorean | Where is your Rockbox.ipod file? |
09:22:12 | jenkins | you mean on my comp hard drive? |
09:22:17 | Llorean | No. |
09:22:26 | Llorean | Did you extract a rockbox.zip? |
09:22:30 | jenkins | im running windows so i cant see where it is |
09:22:32 | jenkins | yes |
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09:22:46 | Llorean | No, windows doesn't hide any of the files we use... |
09:23:11 | Llorean | There should be a rockbox.ipod file in the root of your iPod, if you extracted rockbox.zip directly onto it. |
09:23:38 | jenkins | that might be the problem |
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09:24:11 | Llorean | What might be the problem? |
09:24:17 | Llorean | You didn't extract it directly onto the iPod? |
09:24:21 | jenkins | i didnt copy it onto my ipod |
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09:24:39 | Llorean | So, yeah, the directions weren't followed fully. ;) |
09:25:20 | jenkins | ya i guess not |
09:25:24 | jenkins | thanks |
09:25:27 | jenkins | for the help |
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09:37:59 | Drkepilogue | hey, i need help installing the bootloader for the ipod 2gmini |
09:38:14 | Drkepilogue | it said that it wont install the bootloader unless it can ID it as ipod.. |
09:38:21 | Drkepilogue | and my comp only ID my mini as a HD |
09:38:26 | Drkepilogue | but itune read it just fine |
09:38:41 | Drkepilogue | how do i get my comp to read it as an ipod and not a HD |
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09:42:50 | Drkepilogue | hey, i need help installing the bootloader for the ipod 2gmini |
09:42:57 | Drkepilogue | it said that it wont install the bootloader unless it can ID it as ipod.. |
09:43:13 | Drkepilogue | but itune read it just fine, so how do u get windows to read it as an ipod??? |
09:43:34 | midkay | why can't it ID it as an ipod? |
09:43:41 | Drkepilogue | i have no idea... |
09:43:48 | midkay | did you even try? |
09:43:50 | Drkepilogue | i dont have the driver??? |
09:43:52 | Drkepilogue | yeah |
09:43:58 | midkay | just because it shows up in explorer doesn't mean it isn't an iPod. :) |
09:44:09 | Drkepilogue | it said, ipodpatcher not gonan install bootloader unless window ID it as ipod... |
09:44:35 | midkay | what command did you enter? |
09:45:02 | Drkepilogue | ipodpatcher 2 -a bootloader -ipodmini2g.ipod |
09:45:16 | midkay | where'd you get "2"? |
09:45:24 | Drkepilogue | from |
09:45:29 | Drkepilogue | ipodpatcher −−scan... |
09:45:55 | midkay | ok.. i don't remember the steps to install, but that command looks wrong to me.. the first one. |
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09:46:30 | midkay | ipodpatcher [device] -a bootloader-ipodXXXXX.ipod |
09:46:37 | midkay | you have a space in there... |
09:46:48 | midkay | between bootloader and ipodXXXXX.ipod. |
09:46:48 | Drkepilogue | ooo... |
09:46:51 | Drkepilogue | no space!!! |
09:47:00 | Drkepilogue | there |
09:47:03 | Drkepilogue | worked!! |
09:47:05 | Drkepilogue | haha thanks!!! |
09:47:11 | Mikachu | !!! |
09:47:19 | Drkepilogue | silly meh... hehe.. |
09:47:22 | Drkepilogue | ^^' |
09:47:23 | midkay | cool, no problem.. always double-check those commands.. :) |
09:47:31 | Drkepilogue | thanks |
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10:52:08 | * | linuxstb installs medios on his av340 |
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10:55:53 | Llorean | Anyone know if the Gigabeat's remote is supposed to be fully functioning? |
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11:00:32 | Llorean | linuxstb: So, how's MediOS? |
11:00:51 | linuxstb | Nice, but feels very under-developed. |
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11:01:13 | linuxstb | I think there's only 3 developers in the project, and they support 5 or 6 devices. |
11:01:18 | Llorean | Aaah |
11:01:56 | Llorean | Kinda like the S1MP3 project. I'm not sure why they're trying to tackle everything themselves. |
11:03:29 | linuxstb | I can understand why they started from scratch - their project started at a time when Rockbox only supported the Archos devices. It was _lots_ of work to make Rockbox more portable, and that work is still going on. |
11:03:51 | Llorean | Well, I was referring to S1MP3 with my "Not sure". They don't seem to have started yet. |
11:04:20 | Llorean | At least their status page indicates they're still deciding on a toolchain. |
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11:05:13 | rocko | I always liked rockbox though |
11:05:15 | linuxstb | "public domain firmware" ??? |
11:05:16 | rocko | for real. |
11:05:19 | Llorean | Does MediOS seem like something that would exist well parallel to Rb, like iPL? |
11:05:34 | rocko | my ipod was so screwed up at one point |
11:05:39 | rocko | rockbox saved it's life. |
11:05:46 | linuxstb | Yes, but (like IPL), it doesn't do anything Rockbox couldn't. |
11:06:12 | rocko | I <3 you guys to the grave |
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11:07:39 | linuxstb | But about the only thing it has that Rockbox doesn't is a NES emulator, and a Sega Master System / Game Gear emulator. It doesn't have an audio player. |
11:08:04 | desowin | and xbox360 one ;-) |
11:08:19 | Llorean | I think I'll take an audio player over an NES emulator. |
11:08:37 | linuxstb | But it does have a very different type of LCD to the other players - it has 2 video planes (YCrCb), two 256-colour bitmap planes and a cursor plane which are mixed in hardware. |
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11:08:59 | scorche | wow |
11:09:18 | Mikachu | can you change the coords of the planes, to scroll stuff aronud smoothly? |
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11:09:28 | linuxstb | Mikachu: Yes. And zoom. |
11:09:31 | Mikachu | neat |
11:09:50 | drazen | hello guys is here some one who i could talk about how to install rick box on my 30gb ipod video 5.5g ? thanks |
11:09:55 | linuxstb | I guess that's the main difference between medios and Rockbox - medios will support all that fancy GUI stuff. |
11:10:05 | Llorean | drazen: Where do you get stuck with the instructions? |
11:10:18 | thegeek | hehee |
11:10:20 | thegeek | rick box;P |
11:10:40 | drazen | hehe geek geez |
11:10:42 | rocko | Ohhh I got a question |
11:10:43 | thegeek | ;) |
11:10:48 | GodEater | damn. You need a bloody small screwdriver to get iHP-140 apart :( |
11:10:53 | thegeek | drazen: have you read the manual and the wiki? |
11:10:56 | GodEater | I thought I had one small enough, but sadly I don't |
11:10:58 | Llorean | GodEater: Yes, you do. :) |
11:10:58 | rocko | I try to play mp3s off of my xbox |
11:11:01 | rocko | xbox360* |
11:11:04 | rocko | with rockbox |
11:11:12 | thegeek | GodEater: it's not that small;P |
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11:11:19 | GodEater | I need to replace the battery in mine - it's *completely* stuffed now. Won't hold any charge at all |
11:11:34 | thegeek | I miss my h120;/ |
11:11:42 | Llorean | GodEater: My ex-girlfriend's MP3 player had screws that small, but they were the security types with the small pin in the hole, so I had to get yet another screwdriver for it. |
11:12:10 | GodEater | is your H120 done up with Torx head ones ? |
11:12:20 | GodEater | I have a T6 torx driver - but it looks like I need a T4 |
11:12:25 | GodEater | lord knows where I'll get one |
11:12:29 | Llorean | I could've sworn it was a T6... |
11:12:41 | Llorean | I know the H120 had screws I had one that fit already |
11:12:54 | thegeek | I just used small screwdrivers |
11:12:55 | GodEater | T6 is what I have and it most definitely doesn't fit |
11:12:57 | thegeek | flat ones |
11:13:03 | Llorean | But I've got a decent torx set that I already had lying around. I didn't really pay attention to which one it was. |
11:13:10 | drazen | i read the manual and it totaly confused me |
11:13:20 | Llorean | linuxstb: So, do you have a plan to tackle the software/hardware playback question? |
11:13:31 | thegeek | drazen: then I'm really not sure you should try to install rockbox |
11:13:31 | GodEater | I've got T15 down to T6 |
11:13:33 | thegeek | no offense |
11:13:33 | GodEater | but that's it |
11:13:34 | Llorean | drazen: How far can you get? |
11:13:48 | drazen | am i supose to extract the files for the instalation on my pcs hard dis or on th eipods hard disk? |
11:14:01 | Llorean | GodEater: I ordered an iPod replacement battery, but apparently I'm too clumsy to be able to get the plastic connector off. |
11:14:12 | Llorean | drazen: It tells you which files go where... |
11:14:12 | linuxstb | Llorean: The first plan is to port Rockbox as a hwcodec platform, and then take it from there. Similarly with the LCD, I'm just going to use a 2bpp bitmap mode, which happens to be an identical LCD format to the greyscale ipods. |
11:14:20 | drazen | arghhhh |
11:14:35 | drazen | it mixes C and F disks in the tutorialsss |
11:14:40 | Mikachu | it won't hurt if you only put files on the ipod |
11:14:55 | Llorean | drazen: Are you reading the PDF manual? |
11:14:55 | drazen | its diferant talking on the sites tutorial and on the pdf one |
11:15:01 | Llorean | Follow the PDF |
11:15:18 | Llorean | linuxstb: Ah, seems like a good plan. Especially if someone else finishes up the playback unification while you're busy doing other stuff |
11:15:22 | linuxstb | drazen: The C: drive refers to the hard disk in your computer, the F: drive refers to the hard disk in your ipod. (but your ipod may be something different to F:) |
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11:15:29 | drazen | i did it few times and i am allwas on rhe reboot geting error 1 |
11:15:43 | linuxstb | drazen: That's good - you're almost there. |
11:15:44 | decayedcell | that means |
11:15:44 | drazen | my ipods F |
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11:15:53 | decayedcell | you're missing the .ipod file |
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11:15:57 | decayedcell | rockbox.ipod i think |
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11:16:16 | linuxstb | drazen: Read section 2.2.2 of the manual - you need to download the rockbox.zip and rockbox-fonts.zip files. |
11:16:22 | GodEater | which iPod battery did you get Llorean ? |
11:16:49 | GodEater | if I'm going to replace the battery, I might as well get a decent one that lasts longer than the stock one |
11:16:49 | drazen | i have downloaded them |
11:16:52 | GodEater | assuming that's possible |
11:16:56 | Llorean | GodEater: I honestly can't remember any more. It's been sitting in a closet for 4 months now. :) |
11:17:05 | decayedcell | drazen: needs to be on your ipod |
11:17:09 | decayedcell | connect it to your computer |
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11:17:13 | decayedcell | make sure its in disk mode |
11:17:16 | linuxstb | drazen: Now you need to extract them onto the F: drive. |
11:17:36 | linuxstb | drazen: Making sure you you rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder at the top-level (root) of the F: drive. |
11:17:40 | Llorean | GodEater: You should be able to get a 2100mAh battery that'll work wonderfully. Just get one for a Generation 1/2 iPod and switch the positive and negative wires in the connector. |
11:17:45 | drazen | in the rockbox folder right? |
11:17:52 | linuxstb | drazen: No. |
11:17:56 | drazen | omg |
11:18:02 | decayedcell | get the rockbox.ipod file |
11:18:04 | drazen | just in the F disk |
11:18:07 | decayedcell | and put it on F: |
11:18:09 | decayedcell | then |
11:18:10 | linuxstb | There should be ".rockbox" (notice the dot at the start) folder and a rockbox.ipod file. |
11:18:15 | decayedcell | open up the zip archive |
11:18:16 | GodEater | Llorean: cool - I'll have a look for one |
11:18:19 | decayedcell | and extract the contents to F: |
11:18:23 | decayedcell | and like linux said |
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11:18:27 | GodEater | is the +ve/-ve swap hard ? |
11:18:28 | decayedcell | there'll be a .rockbox folder |
11:18:34 | decayedcell | and rockbox.ipod on F: |
11:18:41 | drazen | ok |
11:18:54 | drazen | what do i do withe the fonts? |
11:19:00 | linuxstb | GodEater: I think lots of people have done it, so I doubt it's that hard. |
11:19:15 | decayedcell | you open up the zip file |
11:19:15 | GodEater | hope not - I've got fat fingers |
11:19:20 | decayedcell | then extract it out to F: |
11:19:24 | decayedcell | like the rockbox zip file |
11:19:36 | Llorean | GodEater: I've heard it's relatively easy. I apparently just really suck at it. |
11:19:41 | decayedcell | if done correctly, it'll say .rockbox already exists |
11:19:52 | decayedcell | then say yes and it'll chuck all the font files in the right place |
11:19:57 | drazen | it want to raplace the one i have allready .rockbox folder ? |
11:20:08 | GodEater | Llorean: well if I screw it up I shall commiserate with you ;) |
11:20:10 | decayedcell | yeh |
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11:20:13 | linuxstb | drazen: It will just add the fonts to it. |
11:20:20 | The-Compiler | Hello |
11:20:28 | drazen | ooo cool i tought he wants too replace it all |
11:20:38 | decayedcell | it only says that |
11:20:43 | drazen | so is it yes or yes to alll |
11:20:43 | decayedcell | because it has .rockbox |
11:20:48 | decayedcell | yes to all |
11:20:58 | drazen | ok |
11:20:58 | decayedcell | the folder names are the same so it thinks you're replacing |
11:21:23 | drazen | good its all in side with the fonts |
11:21:32 | decayedcell | then disconnect |
11:21:35 | decayedcell | it |
11:21:37 | linuxstb | ...safely |
11:21:44 | drazen | ok |
11:21:48 | decayedcell | by right click eject.. |
11:21:54 | decayedcell | or by using the icon in the task bar |
11:22:08 | linuxstb | GodEater: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2006-11/0481.shtml |
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11:22:50 | drazen | omg i love you its working ^_^ |
11:23:05 | drazen | thanks guys |
11:23:49 | drazen | one more question is it posible to increase the font size its a bit too small ? |
11:23:57 | decayedcell | you can change the font |
11:24:00 | decayedcell | by going to um |
11:24:03 | decayedcell | General Settings i think |
11:24:06 | decayedcell | Browse Fonts |
11:24:13 | linuxstb | Press MENU to enter the main menu, then something like General Settings -> Display -> Browse fonts |
11:24:16 | decayedcell | *turns on ipod to check* |
11:24:23 | decayedcell | yeh Menu |
11:24:26 | decayedcell | then General Settings |
11:24:33 | decayedcell | Display |
11:24:35 | decayedcell | Browse Fonts |
11:24:49 | decayedcell | otherwise you can try installing a WPS that would have a nice font |
11:25:11 | GodEater | Llorean: I've ordered a 1st/2nd Gen iPod 2200mah battery |
11:25:15 | linuxstb | Yes, better option is to select "Browse Themes" and choose a new theme - maybe iCatcher. |
11:25:15 | GodEater | I'll let you know how I get on |
11:25:18 | drazen | thanks i am so happy i got it working |
11:25:23 | * | GodEater goes to find a bloody small screwdriver next |
11:25:31 | decayedcell | GodEater: any idea what the stock battery is rated at |
11:25:37 | Llorean | decayedcell: 1300 |
11:25:39 | GodEater | 1300mah |
11:25:46 | decayedcell | whoa GG lol |
11:25:47 | GodEater | according to the label on the back |
11:25:53 | decayedcell | hmm |
11:26:08 | Llorean | The 2200 will give you a playtime somewhere in the "ridiculous" range |
11:26:19 | decayedcell | well a battery bench should be enough to prove or disprove that figure |
11:26:22 | GodEater | :) |
11:26:23 | decayedcell | where did you get it from eBay? |
11:26:28 | decayedcell | or ipodmods.com or something |
11:26:28 | scorche | speaking of... |
11:26:30 | GodEater | ipoddoctor.co.uk |
11:26:41 | decayedcell | hmm |
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11:26:43 | scorche | Llorean: have you tried a bench with your gigabeat? |
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11:26:52 | decayedcell | oops |
11:26:52 | Llorean | scorche: Not yet, no. |
11:26:54 | decayedcell | wrong button |
11:26:55 | drazen | ummmmmm |
11:27:04 | drazen | how do see my songs ? |
11:27:06 | scorche | Llorean: how much did you end up finding one for? |
11:27:09 | drazen | *i |
11:27:16 | scorche | drazen: read the manual and FAQ |
11:27:20 | drazen | ok |
11:27:21 | Llorean | $160 locally from Craigslist. |
11:27:24 | linuxstb | drazen: See the Database section in the manual - I think it's 4.2 |
11:27:46 | linuxstb | drazen: The FAQ is also helpful - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
11:27:51 | decayedcell | 15~ quid |
11:27:51 | decayedcell | not bad |
11:27:52 | drazen | thanks guys once more you really helped my , have a nice day or night where ever you are |
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11:29:31 | * | GodEater hopes the screwdriver arrives at the same time as the battery |
11:29:52 | decayedcell | you ordered a self install kit? |
11:29:57 | GodEater | yep |
11:29:59 | GodEater | well |
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11:30:06 | GodEater | I ordered a battery without the fitting service |
11:30:10 | GodEater | if that's what you mean |
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11:30:11 | Llorean | scorche: I'm rather liking it. I wanted a 40gb player anyway, my original plan had been to get a new drive for the H120, but a new player was hard to resist since I was already spending some money. |
11:30:32 | decayedcell | GodEater: and that means you get a screwdriver with the battery? |
11:30:48 | scorche | Llorean: and from what it looks like, it is a nice unit |
11:31:07 | GodEater | decayedcell: no ordered it seperately |
11:31:15 | GodEater | from a completely different site |
11:31:19 | decayedcell | lol |
11:31:21 | decayedcell | where? |
11:31:22 | Llorean | scorche: Honestly, at this point if someone asked me what Rockbox to buy, I'd say F40 is a solid choice. |
11:31:38 | GodEater | mobilefun.co.uk |
11:31:45 | Llorean | Though it'll be nicer once a few minor irritations are gone: The backlight fading is constant right now, and there's a major quirk with the remote |
11:31:55 | scorche | Llorean: aye...if i were to upgrade though, it would likely be an archos 304 though |
11:32:01 | GodEater | my F40 should turn up soon too |
11:32:16 | Llorean | For some strange reason, if the main unit has Hold set, if you change volume on the remote, it gets queued up, and when you take hold off, the volume finally changes. |
11:32:33 | decayedcell | GodEater: 2200 is the highest one you could find for the 1-2nd Gen right haha |
11:32:33 | Llorean | Meanwhile Pause works, with about a 2-second delay. |
11:32:40 | GodEater | decayedcell: yep |
11:32:49 | linuxstb | scorche: 304? |
11:33:06 | decayedcell | and ipoddoctor has the highest |
11:33:09 | decayedcell | for all models? |
11:33:13 | scorche | linuxstb: or 404....i forgot which device, but the one you are working on is in my head =P |
11:33:17 | * | decayedcell interested in longer battery life |
11:33:54 | GodEater | decayedcell: no idea - I only wanted a new battery for the H140 |
11:33:59 | GodEater | I've not bothered looking anywhere else |
11:34:23 | Llorean | GodEater: I think I've heard of them going up to 2650, maybe. |
11:34:39 | Llorean | But there's been some question of the highest capacity ones not quite fitting. |
11:34:44 | GodEater | I could drive to Scotland and back on that! |
11:35:19 | decayedcell | 2650 Oo |
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11:36:55 | Mikachu | what voltage are the batteries? |
11:37:05 | decayedcell | 3.7V |
11:37:10 | decayedcell | for the 1-2 Gen i think |
11:37:34 | Mikachu | so about 35.3kJ |
11:38:04 | GodEater | think I bought my original set of torx heads for chipping my xbox |
11:38:19 | GodEater | just a shame they don't go down to T4 |
11:39:51 | decayedcell | Mikachu: thinking of heating a coffee or something hehe |
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11:40:13 | Mikachu | no, just interested in how much energy it contains, not those random numbers they're labeled with :) |
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11:40:51 | decayedcell | R 12121 Shiny new Minesweeper color bitmaps. |
11:40:53 | decayedcell | lol... |
11:41:00 | Mikachu | nice rev number |
11:41:07 | decayedcell | hmm no SVN Bot on this channel |
11:41:15 | drazen | hi guys i have just one more question, how do i start the ipod software ? |
11:41:25 | decayedcell | shut down the ipod in rockbox |
11:41:28 | decayedcell | by holding on Play |
11:41:33 | Mikachu | drazen: you already said "just one more", how can we trust you this time? :P |
11:41:37 | decayedcell | then to run the apple firmware |
11:41:44 | decayedcell | press menu/select |
11:41:46 | decayedcell | and hold on to menu |
11:41:56 | decayedcell | keep holding until it says Loading original firmware... |
11:42:05 | decayedcell | takes a couple shots to get it right |
11:42:16 | scorche | drazen: i told you before to read the manual and FAQ....do it please |
11:42:22 | scorche | decayedcell: half right |
11:42:25 | drazen | is it posible to make th eapple one start by just turning on the ipod and the rock box one by menu/select? |
11:42:28 | Llorean | decayedcell: With the modern bootloader, you can just turn on the ipod, then immediately turn on the hold switch. |
11:42:31 | Mikachu | drazen: no |
11:42:31 | scorche | decayedcell: there is a much easier way... |
11:42:40 | * | decayedcell is listening |
11:42:44 | Mikachu | drazen: everyone wants to use rockbox by default |
11:42:57 | scorche | decayedcell: see Llorean's line |
11:43:01 | Llorean | drazen: If you can program, it's an easy change. But the official version works that way, because Rockbox is for people who actually want to use Rockbox. |
11:43:13 | drazen | ok |
11:43:15 | linuxstb | drazen: Normally the Apple firmware doesn't fully shutdown your ipod, it just sleeps. So if you shutdown in the Apple firmware, when you next turn it on, it should just wake up in the Apple firmware. |
11:43:21 | drazen | thanks once more |
11:43:26 | drazen | bye guys |
11:43:36 | drazen | have fun ^_^ |
11:43:51 | decayedcell | bugger |
11:43:52 | decayedcell | lol |
11:43:56 | decayedcell | but |
11:44:05 | decayedcell | it keeps rebooting my ipod when it gets to loading original firmware... |
11:44:05 | Mikachu | decayedcell: please try to form coherent sentences |
11:44:15 | decayedcell | okay then sorry |
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11:44:27 | Llorean | decayedcell: What model iPod do you have? |
11:44:37 | decayedcell | 30GB 5.5G Video |
11:44:40 | linuxstb | decayedcell: Does it do that with both the Hold switch and the MENU option? |
11:45:13 | * | decayedcell testing |
11:46:08 | decayedcell | linuxstb: yes |
11:46:22 | decayedcell | but I don't recall this happening in previous versions |
11:47:11 | scorche | linuxstb: how well do you think it would be able to handle various codecs with its comparatively slow processor? (ignoring mp3 of course) |
11:47:12 | linuxstb | decayedcell: I think it's an ipodpatcher bug. You need to restore a clean firmware partition image to your ipod and then run ipodpatcher again. |
11:47:34 | decayedcell | hmm okay |
11:47:49 | linuxstb | scorche: I'm only interested in FLAC myself, and that should be fine. I think other codecs will struggle though unless we start using the DSP. |
11:47:57 | desowin | [11:44:07] <decayedcell> it keeps rebooting my ipod when it gets to loading original firmware... <- are you using COP patch ? |
11:48:05 | decayedcell | would it possibly have anything to do with LinusN's ATA fixes as per FS6549 |
11:48:13 | decayedcell | desowin: yes i'm using cop 6 patch |
11:48:22 | desowin | it acts the same here |
11:48:26 | decayedcell | desowin: but it was fine a few days ago |
11:48:30 | scorche | linuxstb: what about ogg? (just a prediction of course) |
11:48:33 | linuxstb | decayedcell: I'm guessing you upgraded your ipod using ipodpatcher though, without removing the old bootloader? |
11:48:50 | decayedcell | linuxstb: I upgraded both rockbox firmware and bootloader at the same time |
11:49:13 | linuxstb | scorche: High bitrate vorbis struggles on the ipods, so it will definitely struggle on the av300. The CPU will be slower as there is no cache, and a limited (32KB) amount of IRAM. |
11:49:19 | Llorean | decayedcell: The firmware wouldn't be able to prevent Apple OS from loading, but an improperly installed bootloader would easily explain it. |
11:49:21 | scorche | linuxstb: also, is there more or less overhead with that screen? (i am not that well versed in controlling the lcd) |
11:49:40 | scorche | no cache?...hmph |
11:50:37 | linuxstb | scorche: It's less overhead than most targets - there is no lcd_update() function to call, you just tell the LCD controller where in SDRAM the various video buffers are. |
11:51:04 | * | dan_a has another theory about what might cause the PP5020 lockups with boosting |
11:51:17 | Llorean | dan_a: New theories are good things! |
11:51:50 | * | linuxstb waits.... |
11:53:54 | dan_a | There is a 2ms delay after changing the PLL to allow it to settle, but we don't turn off IRQs while we change the PLL. The IRQ handler can have a different clock source to the normal code, and we never set that. If an interrupt happens in those 2ms, it could be running using the PLL clock while it is unstable |
11:54:23 | dan_a | Does that sound like a viable theory? |
11:54:40 | Mikachu | if you turn off interrupts, can you miss button presses? |
11:54:46 | Mikachu | (better than locking up i guess) |
11:56:11 | dan_a | I guess the only thing to do is patch and find out! |
11:56:15 | GodEater | I could live with a missed button press for 2 whole ms |
11:56:55 | Mikachu | it's obviously no problem if it gets picked up after 2ms, i mean if it's missed completely it could get annoying |
11:57:37 | GodEater | I still think you'd be pretty unlucky to miss a button press inside of a 2ms gap |
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11:57:48 | GodEater | I imagine my presses last longer than 2ms |
11:58:00 | linuxstb | dan_a: I'm pretty sure I've tried disabling interrupts, but please try again. You may also need to disable the FIQ, but if you do that, you'll get audio glitches when the CPU speed changes... |
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11:58:22 | dan_a | The better solution is to use hcs's approach, which seems to work for me. He sets the PLL once, and just switches between the 24MHz clock and the PLL |
11:58:47 | linuxstb | It would be nice to confirm interrupts are the problem though. |
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11:59:42 | linuxstb | I liked hcs's patch, but 24MHz is too slow for most codecs. |
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12:00:01 | linuxstb | (I think it's fine for FLAC though...) |
12:00:21 | dan_a | We should be able to use a 33MHz clock instead of 24MHz, but I've not managed to make that work yet |
12:00:28 | Llorean | If we get COP working better, 24mhz might not be so bad any more. |
12:00:48 | Llorean | Or 33 for that matter. |
12:01:33 | dan_a | I did manage to get the 32kHz clock to work, but the interface was... erm... sluggish. |
12:02:06 | Llorean | Somehow I imagine that's a bit of an impressive understatement. |
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12:03:01 | dan_a | Yep ;) |
12:04:15 | GodEater | lack of TLA knowledge alert!! Someone care to enlighten me on what PLL and FIQ stand for ? |
12:04:44 | dan_a | GodEater: PLL is a type of clock (Phase Locked Loop) |
12:04:45 | scorche | www.wikipedia.com =) |
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12:05:01 | scorche | (saves the embarrassment) |
12:05:10 | GodEater | I have no shame :) |
12:05:11 | linuxstb | GodEater: FIQ is the fast interrupt on ARM processors. |
12:05:32 | Mikachu | is the q queue? |
12:06:01 | Mikachu | wikipedia was not helpful, Fédération Internationale des Quilleurs (FIQ) or International Bowling Federation |
12:06:13 | GodEater | heheh |
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12:06:59 | buzzzzzzz | hi guys, where can i download rockboy ? |
12:07:17 | scorche | buzzzzzzz: you dont need to |
12:07:24 | scorche | if your player supports it, you have it |
12:07:46 | buzzzzzzz | i have video ipod |
12:07:58 | buzzzzzzz | is it in plugins? |
12:08:05 | scorche | then you have it...i suggest you read the manual for usage |
12:08:20 | decayedcell | i thought the read the manual line was going to kick in somewhere |
12:08:59 | buzzzzzzz | i have rockbox and rock paint but no rockboy? |
12:09:07 | buzzzzzzz | *blox |
12:09:12 | Mikachu | buzzzzzzz: did you read the manual already? |
12:09:19 | buzzzzzzz | yes |
12:09:19 | scorche | that was fast.. |
12:09:21 | GodEater | clearly not |
12:09:39 | buzzzzzzz | it just says the rock boy version and the playing comands |
12:09:49 | buzzzzzzz | i have the pdf manual |
12:09:53 | scorche | it also describes what a viewer |
12:09:54 | scorche | is |
12:10:00 | scorche | as compared with a plugin |
12:10:18 | Mikachu | buzzzzzzz: if you have a .gb file on your ipod, how do you think you start the game? |
12:10:27 | buzzzzzzz | why it isnt explaind in the plugin sextion of the rockboy ? |
12:10:37 | scorche | buzzzzzzz: because it isnt a plugin... |
12:10:42 | buzzzzzzz | *section |
12:10:44 | scorche | please just read it again |
12:10:52 | buzzzzzzz | oh ok |
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12:13:03 | Mikachu | how come all the silly users are from australia? :) |
12:13:16 | * | scorche look at JdGordon |
12:13:25 | Mikachu | the inverse statement may not be true |
12:13:31 | scorche | s/look/looks |
12:13:55 | JdGordon | hmm? |
12:14:27 | JdGordon | which silly user was aussie? |
12:14:28 | GodEater | merry belated australia day btw JdGordon |
12:14:35 | aliask | yay australia day! |
12:14:39 | fejfighter | it was australia day yesterday give us a rest were still hungover |
12:14:45 | Mikachu | buzzzzzzz and the one before him |
12:14:52 | * | JdGordon did absolutly nothing yesterday :p |
12:15:06 | aliask | aww |
12:15:10 | aliask | not even a barbeque? |
12:15:11 | GodEater | I managed to celebrate it (hangover and all) and I'm not even australian ;) |
12:15:15 | JdGordon | nup not even |
12:15:21 | JdGordon | well done |
12:15:22 | fejfighter | in true aussie fashion jdGordon -relax |
12:15:25 | aliask | listen to the hottest 100? |
12:15:26 | GodEater | thanks ;) |
12:15:28 | JdGordon | exactly! |
12:15:40 | JdGordon | aliask: im a metal ead.. i stay clear of the radio |
12:15:45 | scorche | depends on how you define aussie fashion... |
12:15:55 | decayedcell | fejfighter its what 10:20 now lol |
12:16:00 | decayedcell | how can you still be hungover |
12:16:03 | fejfighter | yeah i know |
12:16:15 | fejfighter | kickon till teh next day :P |
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12:16:49 | aliask | Yeah, there aren't many metal stations at all, JJJ is the closest, and it's barely it at all. |
12:17:12 | fejfighter | I just got my fix at trivium, i know not everyone likes them but it was good |
12:17:38 | JdGordon | did they play their new cd? |
12:17:50 | * | JdGordon cant stand it... their old stuff is 100x better |
12:17:59 | fejfighter | not all of it, like 3 songs, it felt like a short set |
12:18:15 | fejfighter | played heaps of ascendancy so it was good |
12:18:54 | * | decayedcell eyes silly users from Australia comment :p |
12:19:20 | fejfighter | hmm we may have taken over now... |
12:19:42 | decayedcell | well theres still 128 odd of other people in this channel |
12:19:59 | fejfighter | but the aussies have spoken up |
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12:20:11 | decayedcell | and become 'active' |
12:20:31 | fejfighter | true |
12:20:49 | decayedcell | and before this happened |
12:21:00 | decayedcell | they were getting into hardcore talk about PLLs and stuff |
12:21:15 | freqmod | Hello, i have messed up my partition table. Could someone with linux and an ipod send me the output of fdisk /dev/<ipod> : p (to print the table)? |
12:21:21 | scorche | well, that IS what this channel is for... |
12:21:35 | freqmod | (ipod 5g, video 30 GB) |
12:21:37 | Mikachu | freqmod: there are mbr sectors for all ipods on rockbox.org |
12:21:38 | decayedcell | yes I was trying to say |
12:21:42 | freqmod | thx |
12:21:52 | decayedcell | that us aussies blabbering about something else wasn't entirely appropriate |
12:22:04 | decayedcell | given the level of technical talk that was going on |
12:22:32 | fejfighter | yep sorry |
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12:23:00 | freqmod | do you know where? |
12:23:08 | freqmod | mikachu: ^ |
12:23:17 | * | fejfighter goes to create a aussie and rockbox irc channel |
12:23:29 | JdGordon | there is rockbox-community already |
12:23:52 | scorche | how is that turning out anyway? |
12:24:02 | JdGordon | there is 4 of us in there now |
12:24:08 | * | JdGordon only just joined tho |
12:24:16 | Mikachu | freqmod: not exactly |
12:24:33 | Llorean | freqmod: The Installation from OSX page. |
12:24:36 | scorche | JdGordon: so slightly better than the last attempt? =P |
12:24:38 | Llorean | Go through IpodInstallationBeta |
12:24:43 | freqmod | ok |
12:24:49 | Llorean | Look for the converting to Fat32 bit |
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12:28:01 | linuxstb | freqmod: http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ (for the MBRs) - just "dd" it to (for example) /dev/sda, then unplug your ipod and reattach so Linux re-reads the partition table. |
12:28:08 | freqmod | done |
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12:28:36 | freqmod | however it seems like my fat fs is damaged too :(, well well, i have most of the files on my pc |
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12:33:14 | decayedcell | how do I unlock a SVN directory |
12:33:23 | decayedcell | svn: Can't open file 'firmware/target/arm/archos/.svn/lock' |
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12:35:10 | barrywardell | decayedcell: i read your comments on fs about my bootloader changes |
12:35:24 | barrywardell | but i'm able to build for the ipods you mentioned just fine here... |
12:35:39 | decayedcell | hmm |
12:35:50 | barrywardell | which version of the patch did you use? did you patch against clean svn? |
12:35:57 | decayedcell | V6 |
12:36:07 | decayedcell | i have also the cop 6 patch |
12:36:22 | decayedcell | currently i'm nuking my rockbox source |
12:36:25 | decayedcell | and downloading a fresh copy |
12:36:43 | barrywardell | can you test with v6 against a clean svn when you get a chance? |
12:36:49 | decayedcell | sure no problem |
12:37:00 | decayedcell | it builds the normal build fine |
12:37:07 | decayedcell | it just has trouble when building the bootloader |
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12:40:34 | barrywardell | that's strange. must be the cop6 patch |
12:40:39 | decayedcell | also barry, I believe the cop 6 patch is broken from revision 12120 |
12:40:48 | barrywardell | i'm gonna update that now :) |
12:40:50 | decayedcell | playback.c appears to be modified |
12:40:53 | decayedcell | cheers |
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12:46:08 | fejfighter | i must be missing something, where is /what number is the cop patch |
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12:46:58 | linuxstb | fejfighter: Scroll down the page on flyspray - you'll see various versions of the patch, the last one is v6. |
12:46:59 | decayedcell | FS5755 |
12:47:18 | decayedcell | barrywardell says he's updating it right now |
12:47:25 | decayedcell | so I'd wait for v7 xD |
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12:48:06 | fejfighter | thanks, i just want to read it for the moment |
12:49:24 | fejfighter | llinuxstb: i just didnt know where the page was, have no problem with the comments and adding new versions in comments |
12:50:47 | fejfighter | and in the end, i find out that i have alread seen that page, now know what cop means, and realise it doesnt affect me in the slightest |
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12:51:17 | decayedcell | fejfighter what player do you have |
12:51:43 | fejfighter | H300 |
12:52:08 | decayedcell | cool |
12:52:39 | fejfighter | yeah, not affecting me now, possibly in the future though |
12:53:21 | decayedcell | upgrading to an ipod maybe? |
12:53:58 | fejfighter | might get one for my bro, or when i decide that the h340 is too bulky |
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12:54:56 | fejfighter | geez im hoples today off topic again :( |
12:55:08 | decayedcell | hmm arm-elf-ar: Command not found |
12:55:13 | decayedcell | anyone have an idea lol? |
12:55:28 | linuxstb | Either you haven't installed the compiler, or it's not in your PATH. |
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13:06:59 | rp- | bx r2; will change to thumb mode depending on the value in register r2? |
13:07:12 | decayedcell | configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
13:07:16 | decayedcell | bloody hell |
13:07:25 | decayedcell | just took one step back >< |
13:07:39 | Mikachu | yep, australians |
13:07:46 | decayedcell | >< |
13:07:55 | decayedcell | either that |
13:08:04 | decayedcell | or the CrossCompiler instructions aren't AustralianProof |
13:08:31 | Mikachu | as soon as you make instructions australian proof, they invent a better australian |
13:08:32 | dan_a | rp-: It will branch to the address in R2, and change to thumb mode if that address isn't 32 bit aligned (I think) |
13:08:55 | decayedcell | haha |
13:08:56 | rp- | dan_a: thx |
13:09:08 | decayedcell | anyway barry it looks like i'll only be able to compile tomorrow |
13:09:20 | decayedcell | unless I boot into Windows |
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13:09:24 | decayedcell | but I need to sleep |
13:09:27 | barrywardell | decayedcell: i can provide a compiled version if you want to test that;) |
13:09:43 | fejfighter | i thought the instructions were aussie proof, use rockboxdev.sh |
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13:09:57 | decayedcell | fejfighter i like doing it the hard way |
13:10:19 | decayedcell | theres one problem with the script |
13:10:27 | fejfighter | what? |
13:10:33 | decayedcell | theres a check to see if you have the gcc etc files already |
13:10:38 | decayedcell | and if you do have them it'll stop downloading |
13:10:52 | decayedcell | however, before that it checks if theres build-rb and those directories |
13:10:59 | decayedcell | and if they are there it'll want you to nuke them |
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13:11:14 | decayedcell | so technically you can't put predownloaded gcc and stuff into those folders to skip the downloading process |
13:11:25 | fejfighter | how is that a problem, if they are corrupted delete them |
13:11:34 | decayedcell | they're not corrupted |
13:11:42 | fejfighter | mm ok, it worked for me |
13:11:48 | decayedcell | its just annoying to sit here waiting for it to download |
13:12:06 | decayedcell | the script needs to be modified to not go into the loop i described earlier |
13:12:18 | decayedcell | so yes it probably would be better if i just ran the script |
13:12:24 | decayedcell | but i need to learn how to build the toolchain manually |
13:12:30 | decayedcell | well i don't need to i just want to :p |
13:12:46 | decayedcell | anyway night all |
13:12:52 | fejfighter | goonight |
13:12:53 | decayedcell | barry email it to me |
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13:13:07 | Mikachu | decayedcell: do you have CFLAGS set in your environment? |
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13:16:57 | JdGordon | how badly should I try to save space? http://rafb.net/p/gk15I990.html < char* desc there is not used when the void* variable is used, but that option is probaly going to be used 80% of the time |
13:17:08 | JdGordon | should i bother trying to move it somehow? |
13:18:22 | rp- | dan_a: do you know what address 0x7000C000 is doing on the sansa? |
13:18:46 | Mikachu | JdGordon: you could make them a union |
13:18:47 | Mikachu | ? |
13:18:50 | dan_a | rp-: It sounds familiar, let me just check |
13:19:11 | rp- | dan_a: it's near the I2C controller i think |
13:19:51 | lostlogic | pondlife: linuxstb: I've posted some initial design thoughts on the wiki for MoB |
13:20:14 | pondlife | Cool |
13:20:24 | pondlife | Will take a look later this afternoon |
13:20:41 | dan_a | rp-: firmware/drivers/i2c-pp5020.c:#define IPOD_I2C_BASE 0x7000c000 |
13:20:44 | lostlogic | it's kinda a hybrid of what I did before, what lowlight's done and things added based on discussions. |
13:21:24 | barrywardell | dan_a: that #define should probably be moved to pp5020.h... |
13:21:49 | rp- | would be bad, cause my first look was at the .h file |
13:21:52 | Mikachu | Bagder: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebChanges TWiki Installation Error |
13:22:02 | dan_a | barrywardell: Yes, and the C code into the target tree |
13:22:13 | rp- | dan_a: i think the power of of the sans is done by i2c then |
13:22:18 | rp- | +f |
13:22:22 | JdGordon | Mikachu: well, the char* is needed for every case except the vairable.. so putting it in the union wont help |
13:22:24 | dan_a | I'm not touching any code until my hangover goes away though |
13:22:47 | Mikachu | JdGordon: i know, i had another thought but then i realized that wouldn't work either |
13:23:12 | JdGordon | im thinking about putting each of those union options into a struct * and putting that char in each.. but that will be annoying |
13:23:13 | barrywardell | dan_a: haha. i can move it-no hangover here! |
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13:23:15 | Mikachu | JdGordon: you could have a separate struct type for each of the cases in the union |
13:23:33 | JdGordon | snap :p |
13:23:42 | rp- | is there some example in the rockbox code on how to use the i2c bus? |
13:24:09 | rp- | i guess in the ipod code :) |
13:24:47 | dan_a | rp-: Can you tell if it's talking to I2C address 0x70? |
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13:25:02 | dan_a | The iPod touchwheel is on the I2C bus |
13:25:19 | barrywardell | rp-: the h10 rtc code has it...firmware/drivers/rtc/rtc_e8564.c |
13:25:48 | lostlogic | h300 rtc as well |
13:27:02 | barrywardell | rp-: and the code in pcf50605.c |
13:27:17 | rp- | dan_a: yes i think so, i'm disassembling the bootloader and there is a output "system shutdown" then a 2sec wait and after that it seems there is something done with the 0x70.. address |
13:27:26 | rp- | barrywardell: thx |
13:27:42 | JdGordon | are structs packed by default in rockbox? or are they aligned somehow? |
13:28:56 | dan_a | rp-: 0x70 is the I2C address of the AS3514 - which has the power controller built in. It would be really good if we could get software power off working |
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13:30:39 | rp- | dan_a: a very good, i hope we get the datasheets, it looks like many things are done by the AS3514 |
13:30:46 | JdGordon | amiconn: do you know if 2 shorts will work out the same size as 1 int? |
13:30:53 | JdGordon | ... in a struct |
13:31:38 | dan_a | rp-: It sounds like you're getting fairly close even without the datasheet |
13:32:50 | rp- | dan_a: if i can get behind, what in de registers is and what i have write to them... i will try a little bit |
13:33:44 | rp- | dan_a: by the way i don't think the backlight is controlled by any GPIO, i tried most of them out and i had no results |
13:34:35 | dan_a | rp-: I've just been looking over old mails, and the backlight is controlled by the AS3514 - so it will be an I2C command to turn it off |
13:35:04 | rp- | i thought that |
13:36:03 | dan_a | Have you had a look at the Rockbox function pp_i2c_send_bytes? |
13:36:17 | rp- | is it possible that the cpu could be slowed down by any GPIO port? |
13:36:24 | rp- | looking at it right now |
13:39:31 | barrywardell | rp-: i experienced slowdown when changing some GPIO on my H10. i don't think it was the cpu though. it only happened during disk access |
13:43:24 | rp- | barrywardell: i can't say if it was the cpu speed, but the lcd update was very slow and any input with the wheel |
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13:45:25 | barrywardell | i don't think cpu speed would be controlled by gpio. it's probably something else, but i could be wrong |
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13:47:37 | JdGordon | pointers arent 16bit on all targets are they? that would make things easy :p |
13:55:24 | linuxstb | pointers aren't 16-bit on any of the current targets. |
13:56:41 | JdGordon | I know... if they were i could fiddle |
13:58:27 | JdGordon | is this trcut going to be ineffienct to access? http://rafb.net/p/r2sDTL20.html |
13:59:20 | JdGordon | the 2nd union s what im really worried about... it makes the whole thing 4 bytes smaller, but adds the struct for maybe 30% of menu items |
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14:00:48 | Kitt0s | where can i get help for ipod ?:\ non-rockbox related |
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14:06:00 | linuxstb | Kitt0s: Maybe ilounge.com |
14:07:32 | linuxstb | barrywardell: I hope your COP patch was synced to SVN, not CVS... |
14:08:02 | barrywardell | linuxstb: haha, yes. synced to cvs |
14:08:13 | barrywardell | i mean svn |
14:08:22 | linuxstb | :) |
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14:14:58 | d16174l4n63l | curiousity, anyone on developing for the Sansa e200 on? |
14:15:01 | Kitt0s | when i push both the next and previous button on ipod.. and hold it for a few seconds.. should it give me some diagnostics window or something? |
14:15:22 | barrywardell | d16174l4n63l: yes |
14:16:20 | JdGordon | when space is reserved for a const'ed struct, is it just the sum of the vars? or is it + ..? |
14:16:25 | d16174l4n63l | got a couple min for me to pick your brain barry |
14:16:46 | barrywardell | go ahead. |
14:16:46 | JdGordon | barrywardell: force him to change his nick first :p |
14:18:38 | d16174l4n63l | I've had this nick for year man 8)... Anyway, so I have been checking out the refrence documentation for the current Sansa buld mainly just playing with the graphics. The guide say 16, however when I modded the origional firmware with HMOD. It seems to accept 24 bit color <== Mostly a theme'r these daydays. Is that an imposed limit of RockBox which I think is really awsome BTW, or is it more or less th |
14:20:18 | barrywardell | H3Mod accepts 24 bit color, but converts it to 16 bit for use on the Sansa |
14:20:33 | barrywardell | so it's an imposed limit of the lcd in the Sansa |
14:21:14 | d16174l4n63l | I see, that makes alot of sense. |
14:24:37 | d16174l4n63l | so H3MOD makes the conversion over to 16. This has beena puzzle for me, I bought a sansa e250 and after doing some H3MOD stuff with it, and working on a new bookmark set for the current firmware, It definitly holds the illusion of 24 bit when you get down to the images it uses 8) |
14:25:12 | d16174l4n63l | and Yes I have RB as my maina nd am just tweaking for now out of curiousity. Can't wait for play support |
14:26:24 | d16174l4n63l | well, anyway I am at work and all TYVM for the answer. Hats off to you developers out there. I may come back soon 8) cheers! |
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14:52:04 | Womble2 | Bug 6513, "the keys don't work on h10" - closed because apparently it's a "support question" |
14:52:22 | Womble2 | Well, I have the same bug/question. Is there an answer? |
14:54:00 | Arathis | Womble2: Do you have the latest RB version and Bootloader? .... And hold deactivated? ;) |
14:54:06 | barrywardell | Womble2: do the keys not work at all? |
14:55:32 | Womble2 | Arathis: Latest, yes. |
14:55:37 | Womble2 | barrywardell: None - not even power. |
14:55:58 | barrywardell | does anything happen when you switch hold on/off? |
14:56:01 | Womble2 | and it's not on hold |
14:56:31 | Womble2 | no, no change |
14:56:52 | barrywardell | does the backlight stay on all the time? or does it change when you press a button? |
14:57:08 | Womble2 | It seems to stay on. How soon should it turn off? |
14:57:42 | Womble2 | Actually, let me correct myself, it's actually stopping at the flash screen. There's no folder view. |
14:57:49 | Arathis | Womble2: standard backlight shutdown time is 5s |
14:58:15 | Womble2 | Then it's staying on. |
14:58:17 | barrywardell | what screen has it stopped at? |
14:58:24 | barrywardell | what does it say on the screen? |
14:58:28 | Womble2 | The one with the Rockbox logo. |
14:58:45 | Womble2 | "Ver: CVS-061218" (yes, I know, but that's what was in the "latest" zip file) |
14:59:05 | barrywardell | where did you download the file from |
14:59:10 | barrywardell | you need a newer version |
14:59:27 | Womble2 | http://download.rockbox.org/daily/h10_5gb/rockbox-h10_5gb.zip |
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15:00:12 | barrywardell | what bootloader did you download. that might need to be newer too |
15:00:26 | Womble2 | http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/iriver/H10.mi4 |
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15:01:27 | Womble2 | Is it possible that the files for download aren't being updated properly? |
15:01:27 | Arathis | What player exactly do you have? 5/6GB? MTP/UMS? |
15:01:37 | Womble2 | H10 6GB with UMS firmware. |
15:02:46 | Arathis | The path you used for download seems to be out of date. At least since rockbox uses SVN the path is http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-h10_5gb/rockbox.zip |
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15:03:36 | Arathis | The best way is to go through the main page and click "SVN builds" or at least "daily builds" |
15:04:09 | Womble2 | http://www.rockbox.org/daily.shtml links to the file on download.rockbox.org |
15:04:52 | barrywardell | Womble2: can you try the build that Arathis pointed out and see if it works? |
15:05:01 | Womble2 | Yes, I'm trying it |
15:05:21 | Womble2 | How about the H10.mi4 file? |
15:06:21 | barrywardell | i can provide an up to date one if the other rockbox build doesn't work |
15:06:36 | Womble2 | Works! |
15:07:01 | Womble2 | Well thanks a lot. It's just that index page that's broken. |
15:07:12 | barrywardell | sounds like the daily build isn't getting updated |
15:08:59 | Arathis | oh, didn't noticed it was a daily build .... |
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15:19:05 | barrywardell_ | what do people thing about adding a portalplayer directory to the arm target tree? |
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15:26:33 | tanq | what is portalplayer? (i guess that question automatically throws out my vote) |
15:26:41 | tanq | heh |
15:27:24 | tanq | chipset? |
15:27:37 | barrywardell_ | chipset used in ipod, h10, sansa |
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15:27:58 | tanq | hence the PP prefix.. i didn't know what it stood for. |
15:28:35 | barrywardell | yes |
15:30:38 | tanq | its sounds like a good idea, but would you alsa create dirs for each unique vendor's chips? |
15:31:11 | tanq | s/alsa/also/ |
15:31:44 | rp- | is there a difference between ADD R1, R0, #0 and MOV R1, R0 ? |
15:31:55 | rp- | i'm talking about ARM asm |
15:32:00 | tanq | I wish my ipod would die so i would be forced to buy a new player.. |
15:32:24 | rp- | is the ADD maybe faster? |
15:32:36 | barrywardell | tanq: there are already dirs for iriver, ipod, sansa |
15:33:28 | barrywardell | Bagder: the build table doesn't deal too well with moved files |
15:35:20 | tanq | barrywardell: i meant for the suppliers chips not for the hardware that uses it. |
15:36:10 | tanq | s/hardware/higher assembly part/ |
15:36:20 | barrywardell | tanq: i guess we would. pp is the only one that is needed for the moment though |
15:38:14 | tanq | man i want to put a color lcd in my 4g, but my hard drive seems to be struggling at times. That together equals a new player.. |
15:38:26 | tanq | but the harddrive just won't die... |
15:38:28 | tanq | heh. |
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15:39:18 | barrywardell | have you tried dropping it from a tall building ;) |
15:39:46 | tanq | no.. |
15:40:00 | tanq | it's a thought though.. |
15:40:22 | tanq | I can get that warning folder a lot that tells you to go to apple support. |
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15:41:01 | tanq | dmesg usually gives me some error about FAT: filesystem panic after a while |
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15:41:38 | hcs | panic on the danceplatter |
15:41:55 | tanq | heh |
15:42:11 | Mikachu | maybe you should run fsck.vfat on it |
15:42:21 | foolsh | barrywardell: any luck finding out what causes the e200 to "freeze" I can confirm that the build from 1/23/07 does not freeze, I reversed the changes made by Nils Wallménius at 23 Jan 15:43 concerning powering down the disk,I'll keep crawling up the committs till i find it either way |
15:42:43 | tanq | Mikachu: the problem is deeper than that. |
15:43:25 | foolsh | barrywardell: but it still freezes |
15:43:39 | tanq | i've fsck'd the disk a dozen times.. it will fix some things temporarily. I'm pretty sure the drive is bad. |
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15:44:29 | tanq | Mikachu: I had ipodlinux installed on this a long while back way before the 4g ipod was supported. And I'm pretty sure some events that occurred during that use caused it. |
15:44:37 | pondlife | lostlogic: around? |
15:44:50 | barrywardell | foolsh: dan_a was working on it |
15:44:52 | tanq | actually i'm not even sure if the 4g is supported by that project yet.. |
15:46:17 | barrywardell | foolsh: we suspect the freeze only happens on aligned writes |
15:46:51 | foolsh | barrywardell: from the optimized ata driver? |
15:47:05 | foolsh | i thought the e200 didn't use that |
15:47:23 | barrywardell | foolsh: no, the current one in svn. there's a suspect lcd_update() in there |
15:47:27 | barrywardell | which slows it down to a crawl |
15:47:36 | barrywardell | making it feel like it has frozen |
15:47:47 | barrywardell | but it's actually just running very very slowly |
15:47:48 | tanq | Slasheri: do you have any documentation for the database formats? |
15:48:45 | foolsh | barrywardell:I noticed the scroll wheel light going out and then on when you move it so I knew it was not "locked" up |
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15:50:51 | barrywardell | foolsh: i suspect the problem was always there |
15:51:19 | barrywardell | but we only noticed when jdgordon moved settings from into a file |
15:51:52 | barrywardell | from the config block |
15:53:02 | lostlogic | pondlife: yes |
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15:53:34 | foolsh | Barrywardell: I can reproduce it by "playing" a mp3 and skipping to the next track then back and next and so on till it stops Ahh I thought that might be it! |
15:54:19 | barrywardell | foolsh: i suspect anything that causes the settings to be written to file might reproduce it |
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15:54:59 | Slasheri | tanq: checking the structures in tagcache.c should give a good idea (just ignore the temporary commit file structures) |
15:55:24 | Slasheri | tanq: i have also written a description to the forums a long time ago, that could be useful too |
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15:58:23 | pondlife | lostlogic: I've looked at the updated wiki page - there still seems to be a bit of data duplication going on. Would it be possible to reduce the number of structures at all? |
15:59:13 | pondlife | Also, does "next track to be read" mean next track to be buffered, or next track to be played? |
15:59:23 | pondlife | I assume "to be played". |
15:59:29 | lostlogic | buffered |
15:59:39 | lostlogic | what data appears duplicated? |
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16:00:34 | pondlife | The currently playing track data - isn't that guarenteed to be available on buffer? |
16:00:41 | lostlogic | no |
16:00:47 | pondlife | Ah, long tracks ;) |
16:00:48 | lostlogic | remember, tracks can be longer than the buffer |
16:00:49 | lostlogic | right |
16:00:50 | lostlogic | :) |
16:01:02 | pondlife | Sorry - heavy night last night |
16:01:08 | lostlogic | lol |
16:01:33 | lostlogic | I already had my one 'heavy night' for the month a couple weeks ago :-P |
16:01:52 | pondlife | Why have seperate structures for ID3 and track info? |
16:02:13 | pondlife | And why store for the previously played track? |
16:02:15 | lostlogic | pondlife: because the id3 one can be dynamically sized (as per lowlight's patch) and the tracks one cannot really |
16:02:29 | lostlogic | need the previous track for the time period after codec has finished before the wps transitions |
16:02:39 | pondlife | Gotcha |
16:02:59 | Mikachu | what happens if the codec decodes two tracks before the wps transition? |
16:03:07 | lostlogic | Mikachu: I kill you. |
16:03:11 | Mikachu | okay |
16:03:14 | Mikachu | :D |
16:03:21 | lostlogic | Mikachu: not a situation I'm prepared to handle just now |
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16:03:48 | lostlogic | if some people wouldn't make their pcm buffers the size of the moon it wouldn't be a very likely situation at all. |
16:03:51 | lostlogic | :-D |
16:04:27 | Mikachu | for a flash device it's the logical split |
16:04:35 | lostlogic | yes yes yes, so you keep saying |
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16:04:58 | Mikachu | well, i didn't mean to start anything, and i'll happily change back if i have to |
16:05:08 | lostlogic | Mikachu: :) just givin' you shit |
16:05:17 | pondlife | What advantage does a large PCM buffer give? |
16:05:27 | Mikachu | no skipping when zooming through lists |
16:05:35 | Mikachu | unless you're very dexterious |
16:05:37 | lostlogic | Mikachu: Nothing's comin' to mind that would let me do MoB and safely handle your case. |
16:06:00 | Mikachu | are you guaranteed it won't happen with your split? |
16:06:04 | Mikachu | that's all i really meant |
16:07:03 | lostlogic | Mikachu: no, not guaranteed, for crossfaders, the buffer can be (15 max? at least 8max) seconds long which could contain a whole track in some situations |
16:07:54 | Mikachu | maybe it could just stop decoding until the prev struct is free to overwrite |
16:08:02 | Mikachu | hypothetically |
16:08:20 | lostlogic | that sounds fairly reasonable. |
16:09:00 | pondlife | Could that kill gaplessness with short tracks? |
16:09:18 | lostlogic | shouldn't impact gapless, afaik |
16:09:46 | lostlogic | would kill crossfade with tracks that are shorter than the total fade buffer needed |
16:10:19 | pondlife | Crossfade is currently flaky anyway, but I'd very much hope to make it bulletproof in the new version. |
16:10:28 | lostlogic | you're working on a new version? |
16:10:38 | pondlife | :) |
16:10:45 | pondlife | Not me |
16:10:47 | lostlogic | Mikachu: go ahead and mention that potential problem and solution on the wiki page so we don't forget it. |
16:10:59 | Mikachu | okay |
16:11:15 | lostlogic | pondlife: Have you written a proposed design for this new version? |
16:11:22 | Mikachu | what section should it go in? |
16:11:30 | pondlife | Not at all... I'm hoping the wiki can get to that point though |
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16:11:38 | lostlogic | Mikachu: just put it on the SoftwareCodecPlayback page somewhere |
16:11:49 | pondlife | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoftwareCodecPlayback |
16:11:50 | Mikachu | i figured that much out already :) |
16:11:56 | lostlogic | bagh |
16:11:56 | pondlife | Sorry :) |
16:12:02 | lostlogic | wherever you want then :-P |
16:12:43 | pondlife | Anyway, currently a manual track skip to an unbuffered track will gap and not crossfade, right? |
16:13:06 | pondlife | Could there be any mileage in delaying the skip until the required new track is buffered? |
16:13:08 | lostlogic | pondlife: yes, disk spin and all |
16:13:14 | lostlogic | pondlife: not IMO |
16:13:17 | pondlife | So the skip is slower, but the music doesn't stop. |
16:13:25 | lostlogic | but then I don't use that feature |
16:13:30 | lostlogic | so I don't know what people are trying toa chieve with it |
16:13:53 | pondlife | Party music in my case |
16:14:01 | lostlogic | ah |
16:14:08 | lostlogic | yes, I can see the benefit there. |
16:14:45 | pondlife | Seamlessness/gaplessness/stability are my top 3 requirements |
16:15:35 | lostlogic | well that could introduce a lot of problems :( what happens when you are skipping from a > buffer size track to a new track? you hafta truncate the long track on the buffer X distance from the current read point, start reading the new track into that area and fire up the codec on the new track, then execute the crossfade skip |
16:16:02 | pondlife | Indeed, don't worry about it. I was getting hypothetical. |
16:16:06 | lostlogic | hehehe |
16:16:08 | lostlogic | I mean I do like the idea |
16:16:21 | lostlogic | but it's not feasible until we've locked down the playback interfaces a lot more to make it 'safe' for that |
16:16:40 | pondlife | Indeed. That's why I want to concentrate on simplicity. |
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16:19:42 | lostlogic | ok, so here's a related proposal then: _all_ writes to compressed buffer variables are done in one file and on one thread. The codec thread instead of writing to these directly only maintains it's position relative to the current track start, the buffer file and thread can read the current track and offset information when needed to update the buffer available information |
16:19:54 | lostlogic | s/it's/its/ |
16:20:08 | pondlife | Yes |
16:20:22 | pondlife | That would be the BUFFERING process |
16:20:49 | pondlife | I think it's important to seperate these things. |
16:21:14 | lostlogic | and do you then think that that should get a separate thread / queue from teh 'audio' thread which handles the UI events and passes them serialized to the codec? |
16:21:54 | pondlife | Yes. The UI relates to the PLAYBACK stuff; the buffering should just be happening as a service to the playback. |
16:22:18 | pondlife | I see the buffering as a little squirrel, madly gathering data |
16:22:30 | lostlogic | while true, this involves a third playback related thread and I hate context switches with a passion |
16:22:34 | pondlife | Then sleeping for a long time |
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16:22:55 | lostlogic | 'course we could actually make it a short lived thread that is only alive during buffer fill. |
16:23:09 | pondlife | Why not leave it to sleep? |
16:23:17 | pondlife | That shouldn't be too inefficient. |
16:23:17 | lostlogic | well same thing, I suppose |
16:23:43 | pondlife | The voice stuff - do you agree with it being removed and using it's own dedicated codec? |
16:23:55 | lostlogic | no, not enough IRAM space |
16:24:30 | lostlogic | but on the other hand yes |
16:24:52 | pondlife | Pity. I was hoping a voice codec (limited sample frequency) could run without IRAM. |
16:25:02 | pondlife | What's the slowest SWCODEC target? |
16:25:07 | lostlogic | hmm, it might could. |
16:25:10 | lostlogic | ipod video atm |
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16:25:20 | Mikachu | isn't ipod3g slower? |
16:25:25 | lostlogic | Mikachu: sorta |
16:25:38 | pondlife | I mean on pure decoding - not UI updating. |
16:25:38 | lostlogic | the processor is slower, but the screen updates are so much less costly that it runs faster IIRC |
16:25:56 | Mikachu | do you really have to draw on the whole screen? :) |
16:26:22 | lostlogic | _currently_ with only 1 core working then ipod 3g is probably slowest |
16:26:23 | pondlife | It would be so nice to have playback.c only include playback code (all buffering and voice moved elsewhere) |
16:27:03 | pondlife | I only have an H300, that's pretty fast relatively, isn't it? |
16:27:09 | lostlogic | yeah, but that involves some quite complex things, including codec rewinding so that we can do pause in the playback code and not the pcm code |
16:27:13 | dan_a | If you want any experiments doing to see what the 3g is capable of, just ask |
16:27:29 | lostlogic | pondlife: yes, for raw decoding it's pretty tough. |
16:27:45 | pondlife | The pause mods can be seperate from the rest of it |
16:27:55 | pondlife | Leave that alone for now I reckon |
16:29:12 | lostlogic | anyhow, rather than talking, I think I'm going to try to start coding MoB, after that I think the next task is to split out the buffering onto YetAnotherThread |
16:29:18 | lostlogic | not sure what would be next. |
16:30:37 | barrywardell | dan_a: did you see my 3g commit just there? i wonder if there's a bug in i2c-pp5002.c line 154? |
16:31:42 | tanq | so... am i better of recopying my 7000 files to my ipod with the original filename/directories than having rockbox create a database |
16:31:47 | Mikachu | Bagder: something odd with the frontpage for commit 12123 |
16:32:10 | pondlife | lostlogic: Maybe split the buffering first? That would make development of MoB easier I'd think |
16:32:27 | dan_a | barrywardell: Not seen that yet - after your PP5020 commit I've been looking at unifying the 2 drivers. |
16:32:30 | pondlife | But you are Mr. Buffering, so I'll defer to your knowledge! |
16:33:14 | barrywardell | dan_a: i was thinking they could be unified. the pp5020 one seems more complete |
16:33:27 | dan_a | barrywardell: What's wrong with line 154? |
16:33:50 | barrywardell | it's enabling device 0x2, rather than 0x100 which i think it should be |
16:34:02 | barrywardell | compared to the pp5020 code |
16:34:18 | lostlogic | pondlife: I think it goes both ways, doing the first one is going to hurt but the latter will be easier for the knowledge and refactoring achieved in the first. |
16:35:57 | dan_a | I was looking at the wrong line 154... It doesn't look right, but the I2C seems to work |
16:36:40 | pondlife | lostlogic: I take it the attachments to the wiki page are now redundant? |
16:36:46 | lostlogic | or obsolete |
16:36:47 | barrywardell | it's probably already enabled by the bootloader (the apple bootloader) |
16:36:57 | lostlogic | and buffer split first it is, btw ;) |
16:37:15 | pondlife | Just seemed to make sense to clear the decks a bit! |
16:37:28 | Mikachu | thread_create(squirrel); |
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16:40:18 | dan_a | barrywardell: There's a line in i2c-pp5020.c that looks odd to me: "outl(0x80 | (0 << 8), 0x600060a4)" |
16:41:51 | barrywardell | dan_a: yes, I noticed that. I just left it as is since I don't know what that address does |
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16:42:35 | barrywardell | dan_a: i was thinking about moving all the *-pp.c files to a portalplayer subdir in the target tree. what do you think? |
16:44:32 | dan_a | It would make sense to keep them together |
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16:49:53 | rp- | dan_a: i was able to identify the most part of the i2c code in the original bootloader, but not where the data is sent and more import what data |
16:51:06 | lostlogic | can someone tell me what queue send is compared to queue post and what a queue sender list is? |
16:52:11 | dan_a | rp-: At a guess, the I2C code you've found will be a subroutine. It will probably get arguments (passed in the registers with R0 being the first argument) telling it either the data to send, or a pointer to the data |
16:53:05 | rp- | dan_a: yes, i'm looking at this, i think the arguments are stored on the stack |
16:54:59 | barrywardell | rp-: the first four arguments are stored in registers r0-r3. any further arguments are on the stack |
16:55:24 | lostlogic | so queue send blocks until the message is picked up by the recipient, cool. |
16:55:32 | rp- | ok i'll have a look at that |
16:56:39 | rp- | does someone have a good arm asm reference? |
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17:05:11 | dan_a | barrywardell: That isn't a bug - without the "DEV_EN |= 0x2;" audio doesn't start playing |
17:06:07 | barrywardell | dan_a: ok. still seems a bit strange though |
17:06:08 | dan_a | rp-: I've been using the ARM instruction set: http://www.security-protocols.com/resources/ARM/QRC0001H_rvct_v2.1_arm.pdf |
17:07:11 | dan_a | barrywardell: In better news, with a couple of changes i2c-pp5020.c works perfectly for the PP5002 |
17:07:12 | rp- | ahh great, thank you dan_a |
17:08:34 | rp- | dan_a: is the i2c_init() somewhere called in the current sansa code? or should i just call it before i want to send data? |
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17:13:13 | barrywardell | dan_a: great. go ahead and combine them if you hangover allows it ;) |
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17:15:59 | dan_a | barrywardell: A decent lunch and a few cups of tea have sorted that out, so I'll commit soon :) |
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17:23:56 | dan_a | rp-: i2c_init() is called from apps/main.c |
17:26:06 | rp- | ok thx |
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17:36:31 | michaelconner | hi all... curious how to flash rombox on an h120? instructions in the wiki seem to be archos-exclusive. |
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17:41:05 | dpassen1 | michaelconner: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IriverFlashing |
17:42:16 | michaelconner | aha! thanks, did not see that one. much appreciated. |
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17:47:28 | mots | hi, is hibernation or sth like that possible on H300? |
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17:49:38 | Slasheri | lostlogic: queue_send is synchronous and queue_post asynchronous |
17:49:45 | michaelconner | thanks again... it definitely does boot faster that way. nice work. |
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17:59:14 | jenkins | ok i put in the wad files on my 5th gen ipod and im getting error messages saying it cant find CBRICK CREB CTAN and so on. has anyone seen this before and can help? |
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18:10:15 | Sn0w | huh |
18:10:35 | Sn0w | what 5th generation ipod you gotjenkins |
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18:11:25 | barrywardell | dan_a: I wonder if that 0x2 is needed for i2s rather than i2c (looking at the ipodlinux pp5020 page) |
18:12:06 | Sn0w | barrywardell: what you just said sounded so confusing to me Lol |
18:13:29 | jenkins | the video snow |
18:13:34 | dan_a | barrywardell: That would make sense. |
18:14:23 | Sn0w | jenkins which video ipod |
18:14:32 | Sn0w | 30 60 80 |
18:14:32 | jenkins | sn0w 30 gig |
18:15:14 | Sn0w | hmmm could not say what happened since i am new i did the rocedure with noe errors |
18:15:42 | jenkins | which ipod do you have? |
18:15:50 | Sn0w | 30g ipod video |
18:16:01 | jenkins | where did you get the files from? |
18:16:21 | Sn0w | daily files latest |
18:16:23 | dan_a | barrywardell: I'll leave that code as it is for the moment, but commit the combined driver |
18:16:37 | jenkins | i mean the doom wad files |
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18:16:58 | barrywardell | dan_a: ok. |
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18:17:54 | Sn0w | doom |
18:17:56 | Sn0w | lol |
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18:18:11 | Sn0w | never tried that since i have xbx 360 |
18:18:33 | jenkins | thats what i was talking about in the first place :) |
18:19:05 | Sn0w | .....see what happens when you get so excited over your birthday you get sick like me and confused...must be old age |
18:20:33 | Sn0w | I donated.....I have only but one problem with rockbox |
18:20:53 | Sn0w | I iwsh it would boot up more neatly |
18:21:08 | dan_a | Sn0w: What do you mean? |
18:21:43 | Sn0w | after the apple symbol goes away it does a boot up code or something |
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18:22:44 | dan_a | It tells you a lot of information that is very useful when it doesn't boot... that goes away after a second or so, though! |
18:22:54 | Sn0w | true |
18:23:09 | Sn0w | dan a I am just very picky thats all its a bad habit I have |
18:23:24 | webguest22 | is there are "credits" or about page for the developers of rokbox |
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18:24:47 | Sn0w | rockbox is great and I love how i can drag and drop now on my ipod without more software bein needed......anapod does not work properly and itunes will not work on my computer period |
18:25:27 | dan_a | webguest22: The credits file shows who has helped Rockbox, either by development or other means (http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/CREDITS?view=markup) |
18:26:28 | Sn0w | i have to test though if rockbox can play video properly |
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18:27:15 | Mouser_X | It can't. |
18:27:30 | Mouser_X | At least, video support is, at best, incomplete. |
18:27:58 | Sn0w | really? |
18:28:23 | Mouser_X | Yes. |
18:28:31 | Mouser_X | It can't rebuffer the videos. |
18:28:47 | Mouser_X | It'll only play the video for as long as it has it in RAM. |
18:28:56 | Mouser_X | Once it empties the RAM, that's it. |
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18:29:12 | Mouser_X | Also, it doesn't sync audio and video properly. |
18:29:33 | Mouser_X | (You can get pretty close if you turn on frame skip, and frame limits though.) |
18:30:06 | Sn0w | i notice rockbox does push the ipod to its limit |
18:30:23 | Sn0w | i figured playin video would be hard for it |
18:31:19 | Mouser_X | That's not the problem, really. It plays the files, and audio syncing is possible. |
18:31:30 | Mouser_X | It's just not implemented yet. |
18:31:43 | Mouser_X | Someone needs to go and complete it. |
18:31:49 | Sn0w | we will see soon enough i am uploading a video |
18:31:57 | Mouser_X | What format? |
18:32:10 | Mouser_X | Rockbox only supports MPEG 1 or 2. |
18:32:22 | Sn0w | mpeg correct demnsion specifically for the ipod video 30g |
18:32:34 | Mouser_X | Ah. |
18:35:30 | Sn0w | nope |
18:35:33 | Sn0w | does not work |
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18:37:41 | Mouser_X | Read the Wiki. It'll tell you more specifically what format is needed. |
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18:42:11 | Sn0w | Ok i found something talking about mpeg play back |
18:42:45 | Sn0w | unfortunatly ppl on this site dont like to say hey here is the file you need download it here and apply it like this |
18:43:39 | Sn0w | i am surrounded by links and i dunno what i need |
18:44:13 | dan_a | Sn0w: You need to be on the PluginMpegPlayer page. |
18:44:29 | Sn0w | but i think the file cop.diff is what i need |
18:45:45 | Mouser_X | That's not the case. |
18:46:03 | Mouser_X | If you have a new build, you don't need to apply any patches. |
18:46:19 | Mouser_X | (A diff is a patch) |
18:46:26 | dan_a | Sn0w: You don't *need* a patch for mpeg playback. If you want to improve performance, you need to apply kernel_on_cop_7.diff from http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755 |
18:46:58 | dan_a | If you don't know how to apply a patch, then look at WorkingWithPatches |
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18:56:03 | Sn0vv | no easy instructions on how to get mpeg playback working |
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19:02:24 | Sn0w | this kinda stuff in open source coding makes me wanna go back to factory firmware |
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19:03:02 | Sn0w | .... |
19:03:06 | Mikachu | Sn0w: you mean wanting to use a feature before it's done? |
19:03:36 | mattzz | dan_a, is this bug in the flash driver (locking up after 20 seconds) on the sansa a serious one? |
19:04:24 | dan_a | mattzz: I don't know if the locking up bug is in the flash driver. There are serious bugs in the flash driver, though. |
19:04:57 | mattzz | dan_a, hm, currently it makes development on the target kind of hard ;-) |
19:05:16 | Sn0w | I mean applying the feature |
19:06:26 | dan_a | mattzz: I'll look in to it. |
19:07:02 | mattzz | dan_a, thanks, that would be really great. |
19:07:45 | mattzz | dan_a, I am happy about the fact that there is some kind of flash driver existing anyway - good job |
19:07:47 | Sn0w | so how do i get the mpeg playback feature working |
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19:09:05 | barrywardell | dan_a: does removing the lcd_update not fix it? or are there other problems? |
19:10:34 | dan_a | barrywardell: The lcd_update has been there since I committed writing. However, it doesn't pass amiconn's stress test (either before or after the change) |
19:11:22 | barrywardell | ah, that's not good |
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19:12:21 | dan_a | But I think that is a different problem to the hanging - like I say, that line will have been in the driver for months |
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19:13:56 | dan_a | I guess something could have changed to cause more writing than normal |
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19:17:05 | barrywardell | dan_a: my theory is that it's jdgordon's settings change |
19:17:14 | barrywardell | writing to a file instead of the config block |
19:17:47 | dan_a | barrywardell: Sounds logical |
19:17:50 | mattzz | that could explain the timing of the hang |
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19:20:13 | dan_a | Then I'll test getting rid of the lcd_update, see whether that fixes the hangs, and commit if it does. That will leave other bugs in the driver though |
19:20:50 | mattzz | are the other bugs known (in terms of flyspray entries) ? |
19:21:05 | dan_a | mattzz: No |
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19:23:53 | foolsh | no removing lcd_update does not work i've tried that |
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19:24:43 | dan_a | foolsh: It doesn't cure the hangs? I had to put a nop in to make writing work |
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19:25:38 | foolsh | my filesystem got currupted too but that my have come from all the rewrites of .rockbox |
19:25:48 | foolsh | had format |
19:25:57 | foolsh | had to* |
19:28:22 | * | foolsh is a novice though hasn't wrote a program in 10 years |
19:29:35 | dan_a | How do I force the hang to happen? |
19:31:45 | foolsh | I can get it to hang by playing a mp3 and skipping to the next song then back then forward and so on but this could come from something to do with the audio not supported or read a doc then goto the menu then back to the doc |
19:32:02 | foolsh | and so on |
19:32:28 | foolsh | its like increased disk access starts the hang |
19:32:56 | dan_a | Oh, yes, I see |
19:34:10 | barrywardell | i forced the hang by trying to delete a file |
19:34:38 | mattzz | amiconn, u there? |
19:34:47 | * | foolsh is glad he could help hang the e200 but must get some sleep he has to go to work tonight |
19:37:42 | mattzz | linking prob on archos recorder: region FLASH is full |
19:38:00 | mattzz | (/home/mattzz/rockbox-dev/rockbox/archos-build/apps/rombox.elf section .rodata) |
19:38:23 | mattzz | I dont need the rombox |
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19:48:23 | dan_a | It's not the lcd_update line |
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19:51:01 | dan_a | No, wait, perhaps it is... |
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19:59:13 | dan_a | mattzz, barrywardell: I've committed what I think fixes the lockups. Can you let me know if you are still seeing them |
19:59:31 | mattzz | dan_a, sure, I will check |
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20:02:40 | barrywardell | dan_a: i2c-pp5020.h and i2c-pp5002.h are identical now... |
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20:03:12 | dan_a | barrywardell: I'd missed that - do you want to fix, or shall I? |
20:03:32 | barrywardell | i'll leave you to do it. i have to go out now. |
20:04:18 | dan_a | OK |
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20:11:40 | midgey | eh, whats the first line of the header supposed to say (on a plugin)? $Id: $ or something else? |
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20:13:56 | mattzz | dan_a, still hangs |
20:14:21 | dan_a | mattzz: darn |
20:14:48 | mattzz | dan_a, wheel light control is sill working though |
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20:22:43 | mattzz | Argh, snprintf is different in simulator... should have known that. |
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20:35:41 | Brunellus | w00t. |
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20:52:51 | dan_a | Llorean: Seen this yet? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=8478.0;topicseen |
20:53:41 | Llorean | dan_a: I assume that's the link I've already deleted |
20:53:44 | Llorean | We have a new problem user |
20:54:05 | dan_a | It is/was the Pacbox one |
20:54:23 | Llorean | Yeah |
20:54:42 | Llorean | I already deleted a post of his asking for help finding pacbox ROMs that worked. |
20:54:52 | Llorean | I tried to explain to him that asking for ROMs is not allowed in our forums. |
20:55:30 | Llorean | His professional opinion on whether it's illegal and whether or not we should allow it was roughly 'It's the internet dude. They just appear out of air. Why the heck does it matter?' |
20:56:00 | dan_a | That's... incredible. |
20:57:15 | Llorean | He asked how people are supposed to get ROMs, I politely explained that they can be obtained from arcade boards, and that the websites that host them are illegal in many places, and anyway we don't allow discussion. Then I said "Where do you think the sites get them, do they flout in out of the air?" |
20:57:20 | Llorean | His response was: "they do just float in the air stupid." |
20:57:25 | Llorean | And that is a direct quote. |
20:58:20 | dan_a | I would have been tempted to point him towards a site selling butterfly nets, then |
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20:58:53 | Mouser_X | lol |
20:58:57 | Llorean | He's banned, but he already seems to be using a proxy, so he's likely to be back under a new username. |
20:59:04 | Llorean | Though he did threaten to leave for iPodWizard.net. |
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20:59:36 | gop | hey |
20:59:39 | gop | is thier any means to get |
20:59:47 | gop | internet radio in the car |
20:59:49 | gop | live |
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21:00:25 | Llorean | gop: What does that have to do with Rockbox? |
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21:01:24 | desowin | rockbox doesn't support internet connection ....... yet ;-) |
21:01:35 | gop | oh |
21:02:20 | Llorean | Not to mention there aren't any devices within its current scope that would have their own connection to the 'net. |
21:03:09 | Soap | if rockbox can pull ROMs out of the air, Shirley it can pull IP packets out of the air. |
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21:04:39 | dan_a | I've been toying with the idea of starting a port to the Sharp Zaurus so that we have something we can use an IP stack on. |
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21:32:20 | midgey | dan_a: red build |
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21:33:19 | dan_a | midgey: Thank you |
21:33:50 | midgey | just protecting you from the wrath of amiconn :) |
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21:49:02 | mattzz | gotta go, c u |
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22:03:51 | * | Bagder fixed the front page table |
22:04:39 | dan_a | Bagder: It looks like there might be a build server hung too |
22:05:08 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
22:05:19 | dan_a | (at least, the current build seems to be taking a long time) |
22:05:30 | Bagder | done now |
22:05:41 | Bagder | but indeed 809 seconds... |
22:07:30 | dan_a | A long time when you want to be sure that all the red you introduced is gone |
22:07:46 | Bagder | hehe |
22:08:13 | Bagder | its hard to image there once was a time we had no commit builds... |
22:09:27 | Mikachu | i'm not sure it's not my fault, but with svn and cop7 i had very slow menus, it went away when i unpatched cop7 again (had cop6 before) |
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22:14:58 | tucoz | Bagder, sorry for stressing the svn server today. i was gathering statistics for statsvn. in case you are interested, i could send you my cache-file. |
22:15:32 | Bagder | since Mikachu took the elephants, we have plenty of bandwidth to play with ;-) |
22:15:43 | bluebrother | oh, will we get a nice svn statistics page? |
22:15:53 | bluebrother | ;-) |
22:16:26 | tucoz | unfortunatley i have no hosting of my own, but i can mail the cache file for someone to try |
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22:17:29 | bluebrother | when I'm finished with uni in a couple of months I need to look how I can get webspace then ... |
22:17:42 | bluebrother | but currently my space is pretty limited :( |
22:18:14 | tucoz | the stats pages is ~17MB |
22:18:30 | bluebrother | urgh. Too big :( |
22:18:31 | tucoz | lots of images |
22:19:05 | tucoz | zipped ~5Mb |
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22:21:35 | bluebrother | maybe I should setup a server at home ... |
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22:27:47 | bluebrother | btw, any interesting results from statsvn? |
22:28:04 | tucoz | bagder is the top developer |
22:28:15 | Bagder | wooo |
22:28:24 | tucoz | with linuxstb as a runner up, and amiconn third |
22:28:33 | * | Bagder changes a lot of whitespace... :-P |
22:28:56 | tucoz | this is mainly .c and .h files. and with .lang scripts etc included |
22:29:00 | Bagder | quantity, not quality has always been my lead words |
22:29:04 | tucoz | hehe |
22:29:07 | bluebrother | *g* |
22:29:21 | bluebrother | maybe I should change to that too ... :P |
22:30:16 | tucoz | but the whitespace changes improves the qualitey of the source files |
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22:32:06 | bluebrother | hmm. This file not found thing when building the manual is ... a bit strange. |
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22:33:00 | tucoz | yes. but look in the generated makefile. you see that TOOLSDIR is pointing to the platform directory for some reason |
22:33:23 | bluebrother | yes, noticed that. Strangely it seems I can only reproduce this on my old machine. |
22:33:35 | bluebrother | but I need to try on the other one later |
22:33:50 | tucoz | bbl |
22:35:17 | bluebrother | hmm, I can quite easily fix that by not using TOOLSDIR |
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22:37:05 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/rockbox/svn/ |
22:37:34 | Bagder | that's tucoz statsvn stuff |
22:37:52 | Llorean | Wow, 2006 showed a lot of growth |
22:38:37 | dan_a | I imagine the irivers and ipods helped with that |
22:38:59 | Llorean | Well, it doubled in the number of lines of code, from the looks of it. |
22:39:02 | bluebrother | nice |
22:39:16 | Llorean | With over 100,000 added in Aprilish? |
22:39:21 | Bagder | codecs |
22:39:24 | Llorean | Did we add a big codec... |
22:39:25 | bluebrother | wow, contributed LOC. |
22:39:25 | Llorean | Right. |
22:40:10 | Bagder | April 2006 was over 250000 loc |
22:40:15 | bluebrother | hehe. Developer of the month for January 2002 :) |
22:40:16 | Zagor | meh, apps/lang: 207416 lines of code |
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22:40:37 | Zagor | no wonder you win, bagder :-) |
22:40:38 | Bagder | yeah, that seems like I've gotten a lot of lang stuff on me |
22:40:44 | decayedcell | anyone know how to install multiple versions of GCC |
22:40:53 | decayedcell | and then switch between these versions |
22:40:59 | Bagder | decayedcell: just change install path |
22:41:02 | ender` | install each into it's own prefix |
22:41:05 | Bagder | and edit PATH accordingly |
22:41:13 | decayedcell | so when compiling |
22:41:18 | tucoz | excluded stuff is: *.wps, www/*, *.bmp, *.tex. *.png, *.svg, *.pdf and *.bdf |
22:41:24 | decayedcell | just do a export PATH= |
22:41:27 | decayedcell | and that should work |
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22:41:51 | Soap | april 2006 was the language adds |
22:42:04 | tucoz | markun is the champion if .bdf is included |
22:42:08 | Bagder | tucoz: *.lang should probably be excluded too |
22:42:14 | tucoz | probably |
22:42:30 | dan_a | It seems I do 1/4 of my commits at 1am - but never on a Friday. |
22:42:45 | Bagder | the langs along are 250000 lines |
22:42:52 | Bagder | a bit misleading |
22:42:57 | tucoz | i can generate a new one |
22:43:22 | Soap | 53,000 lines of .lang rework by amiconn on the 1st, and 177,000 lines on the 3rd by bagder |
22:43:22 | Bagder | please do |
22:43:41 | bluebrother | seems I'm most active on tuesdays |
22:43:53 | Soap | and does the scipt differentiate between changed lines and added lines? |
22:44:07 | Bagder | I don't think so |
22:44:12 | Soap | the monthly breakdowns list everything as a "change" |
22:44:23 | Bagder | true |
22:44:28 | tucoz | you can read about the script here. http://svn.statsvn.org/statsvnwiki/index.php/UserManual |
22:44:37 | Soap | but the graphs appear to count them as adds |
22:44:39 | bluebrother | I'm a bit surprised to not see my most activity in the manual module |
22:44:50 | tucoz | .tex is excluded |
22:44:57 | bluebrother | hehe, the addition of the manual credits in doc/ |
22:45:03 | bluebrother | aah. |
22:46:19 | bluebrother | would be awesome if that stat would now also link to viewvc |
22:46:22 | * | bluebrother dreams |
22:46:41 | tucoz | bluebrother, it can |
22:46:47 | decayedcell | whats the difference between the core GCC package and the full one |
22:46:51 | tucoz | but not now |
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22:47:03 | Bagder | decayedcell: a lot of different languages added in the full one, iirc |
22:47:08 | bluebrother | stats are nice, but it's nothing important ... |
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22:47:23 | decayedcell | but only the core one is required because it has C and C++? |
22:47:50 | bluebrother | if you only need c and c++ the core is sufficient (afaik) |
22:47:59 | tucoz | Bagder, uploaded |
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22:49:25 | Bagder | that pushed me down to forth |
22:49:37 | Bagder | and dave hit the roof |
22:50:03 | Zagor | exclude plugins! ;-P |
22:50:10 | Bagder | hahaha |
22:51:09 | Bagder | so friday is my favourite commit day |
22:51:19 | Bagder | around 14 |
22:51:43 | Zagor | I find my 15:00 commit peak rather interesting. It's quite pronounced. |
22:52:19 | bluebrother | now my favorite commit day is thursday around midnight :) |
22:52:43 | Bagder | the time is probably GMT ? |
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22:54:11 | tucoz | Bagder, do you want one with viewvc links? ;) |
22:54:33 | Bagder | sure! |
22:55:56 | Zagor | I'm toying with the idea to write an irc log reader, with a bit of css and js to make it easier to read (colored nicks, idented text, highlight selected people etc). Has anyone seen anything like that? |
22:56:07 | tucoz | Yes. hold on |
22:56:17 | bluebrother | Zagor, I wrote something like that some time ago |
22:56:35 | Bagder | Zagor: sounds like something we could use |
22:56:36 | bluebrother | simply colors the logfiles a bit. |
22:56:51 | Zagor | bluebrother: is it viewable somewhere? |
22:56:58 | amiconn | Hmm, the 'file types' table is missing a separate line for .S |
22:56:58 | Bagder | and having the long lines not force you to scroll horizontally... |
22:57:09 | tucoz | Zagor, the logs for ubuntu use something like that |
22:57:10 | Zagor | Bagder: exactly. lots of neat little options. |
22:57:19 | Zagor | tucoz: do you have a link? |
22:57:23 | tucoz | a perl script i think |
22:57:26 | Soap | perhaps remove the joins/parts too? |
22:57:28 | tucoz | i am looking for it |
22:57:34 | Zagor | Soap: yes, optionally |
22:57:36 | Bagder | Soap: yeah |
22:57:42 | bluebrother | Zagor, not yet. Give me some minutes ... |
22:58:04 | amiconn | Hahaaa, wavplay.c is in the top ten of largest files |
22:58:42 | amiconn | Most of that is just giant array definitions |
22:58:52 | Bagder | apps/tree.c has most revisions |
22:59:07 | tucoz | Zagor, example http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-devel-2006-05-01.html |
22:59:20 | tucoz | Zagor, http://freshmeat.net/projects/irclog2html.pl/ |
22:59:45 | Llorean | Soap: I always search for my parts to know where to start reading the logs, at least. |
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23:00:03 | Soap | that's not a bad idea at all. |
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23:00:10 | tucoz | it does not work right out the box for the rockbox logs though. should be a simple fix though. |
23:00:22 | tucoz | Bagder, uploaded |
23:00:34 | Soap | and freenode apears to be stable again. Netsplits really made a mess of the logs for a while there. |
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23:00:53 | Zagor | tucoz: I'd like to make it more advanced anyway (on-the-fly user adjustable) |
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23:01:06 | Zagor | but that should be a good starting point |
23:01:54 | Bagder | linus has two users on the top-10... :-) |
23:01:55 | bluebrother | Zagor, http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/irc-highlight/ |
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23:02:29 | bluebrother | the log file is hard coded atm. But that is only because I stopped working on it at some point |
23:02:39 | amiconn | tucoz: Hmm, does the script allow to merge developer names if they are in fact one and the same person? |
23:03:15 | Bagder | linus would climb to #3 |
23:03:34 | amiconn | yup |
23:05:09 | tucoz | amiconn, not sure. that would be useful though |
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23:05:46 | tucoz | doesn't look like it is possible |
23:05:52 | Zagor | Heh, I've never noticed the logbot time format is hh.mm.ss. uuuugly! :) |
23:06:13 | Bagder | crazy authors |
23:06:29 | amiconn | hehe |
23:08:05 | tucoz | afk |
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23:08:32 | bluebrother | Zagor, in case you're interested in the source: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/irc-highlight/index.phps |
23:08:44 | bluebrother | haven't worked too hard on it ;-) |
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23:09:08 | decayedcell | *** The command 'gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c' failed. |
23:09:09 | decayedcell | man... |
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23:09:27 | Zagor | bluebrother: thanks, but I think I'll start from scratch. neither of those two scipts are very advanced so the benefit of doing it my way from scratch outweighs it. |
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23:09:47 | amiconn | hmpf |
23:10:12 | bluebrother | sure. You could add cool stuff like displaying the real name for developers as name property |
23:10:34 | bluebrother | didn't remember it was _that_ short ;-) |
23:11:24 | Zagor | :-) |
23:11:31 | amiconn | dan_a: I wonder what's up with the sansa disk driver that it doesn't pass the stress test. |
23:12:15 | bluebrother | I planned to add a search field that would highlight all messages containing that string at once. Never did it though |
23:12:17 | amiconn | All the targets I have do pass it, also with further increased data size |
23:12:21 | dan_a | amiconn: I don't know. It gets quite a way before it hits a problem. |
23:13:35 | amiconn | I what way does it fail, btw? |
23:13:42 | amiconn | s/I/In/ |
23:13:46 | dan_a | It dies with a compare error. |
23:14:04 | amiconn | In the beginning, or after comparing for some time? |
23:14:18 | dan_a | After quite a long time |
23:14:35 | Zagor | nicks can't contain space, can they? |
23:14:40 | * | amiconn wonders whether the writing or the reading is at fault |
23:16:13 | * | amiconn also wonders how difficult it would be to add exact error position reporting, together with the (pseudo-random) write and read chunk sizes and alignments |
23:17:38 | amiconn | The plugin helped me in finding one bug in my asm optimised transfer routines for arm - but that bug happened in the very beginning for unaligned transfers |
23:17:55 | amiconn | Just using a hex editor was enough |
23:18:00 | dan_a | I'd like to know the exact sector it's comparing. |
23:18:25 | amiconn | The plugin doesn't know about the sector, it uses plain file operations |
23:18:25 | dan_a | I'd be surprised if it was read errors because they should show up in other things |
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23:20:14 | dan_a | (for example, I'd imagine that the Doom wad would not load correctly) |
23:21:10 | decayedcell | ugh looks like another reformat and reinstall for me lol |
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23:40:11 | decayedcell | has anyone tried the patch in FS6357? sounds interesting |
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23:52:57 | * | Bagder introduces a new irc log index page |
23:54:02 | Zagor | we've got one or two logs now... |
23:54:33 | Bagder | amen |
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