| 00:01:14 | ]RowaN[ | the latest sansa build seems to freeze if you spin the scroll wheel too quickly =/ |
| 00:02:54 | dan_a | ]RowaN[: The latest Sansa builds seem to freeze if you do all sorts of things |
| 00:03:13 | ]RowaN[ | oh yeah |
| 00:04:25 | dan_a | I'm looking at it (along with several other things) |
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| 01:01:02 | Soap | <delorean90> hello |
| 01:01:02 | Soap | * Mouser_X likes DeLoreans. |
| 01:01:06 | Soap | random? |
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| 01:11:42 | Soap | I'm going to try again in a second to verify - but it appears that the kernel on COP #7 patch makes my 5th gen run very slow compared to a stock build. |
| 01:12:48 | tanq | finally.. i just found the forum post about the database update failing.. |
| 01:12:53 | tanq | arg.. |
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| 01:25:02 | fiveofoh | Is there any interest in developing RockBox for smaller players like the Sansa M200 series? |
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| 01:25:27 | Soap | I made a build yesterday, right after commit #12120, and found that kernel on cop #6 no longer worked. So, instead of being a good boy and resyncing the patch I removed #12120, applied the patch, and made a build which functioned smoothly. |
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| 01:26:33 | Soap | I reapplied #12120 today, updated SVN, applied kernel on cop #7, and my ipod was running like molassas in january. |
| 01:26:49 | Hotfusion | man I hate my xp. 2 gigs of ram and if I have to many things open it wont open anything and I have ram left over |
| 01:26:54 | Hotfusion | anyway hi people |
| 01:27:00 | Soap | so I removed kernel on cop #7, recompiled, and my ipod ran fine again. |
| 01:27:25 | Llorean | Soap: Did you check the debug screen to see if the threads were supposedly on the COP? |
| 01:27:28 | Soap | wow Hotfusion. I only have 320 megs here, and no such problems. |
| 01:27:36 | Soap | Llorean: no I did not. |
| 01:27:37 | Hotfusion | my xp is weird |
| 01:27:52 | Mouser_X | So's mine, but it opens what I want. |
| 01:28:02 | Mouser_X | Uptime: 3 weeks 21 hours 15 minutes 30 seconds |
| 01:28:06 | Mouser_X | Though, I should probably reboot... |
| 01:28:06 | Hotfusion | it's like I have to many things open |
| 01:28:07 | Hotfusion | lol |
| 01:28:19 | * | Llorean points out that this is #Rockbox before OT gets too much on a roll. |
| 01:28:27 | Mouser_X | ... |
| 01:28:29 | Mouser_X | Sorry. |
| 01:28:44 | Llorean | Soap: Though it'd be odd for it to be slower with COP than without, unless something else strange is going on. |
| 01:28:48 | Hotfusion | svn done eh |
| 01:28:53 | Hotfusion | cool have to try it |
| 01:30:11 | Soap | Llorean: I am in the process of taking current svn minus 12120, plus kernel on cop #6 and doing a compile to try and narrow it down. My theory (as uneducated as theories can get) was that kernel on cop #7 wasn't synced 100% correctly, and I was trying to narrow it down to that - with all the PP commits today I thought elimination was a good idea. BUT - I should have done what you suggested. |
| 01:31:17 | Soap | For it was running more slowly with the patch than it ever did stock. It wasn't a lack-of-improvement I was seeing, rather a degredation. |
| 01:32:14 | Llorean | Maybe about half the speed? |
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| 01:34:49 | BiptoN | soap: that's odd, cop on my 4g tears it up |
| 01:34:58 | BiptoN | i'll be gettin my 5.5 30gb monday |
| 01:35:08 | BiptoN | i'll have to put that cop on there also |
| 01:35:14 | Llorean | BiptoN: With #7? |
| 01:35:31 | Llorean | Soap: Yeah, definitely degrades performance on my Nano as well, though it shows threads as being in the COP supposedly. |
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| 01:36:36 | BiptoN | lemme dbl check.... |
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| 01:38:48 | BiptoN | eeekk, nm it was koc6 |
| 01:38:55 | BiptoN | 7 just froze |
| 01:39:13 | BiptoN | VERY SLOW INDEED |
| 01:42:25 | BiptoN | with kernel on cop 7 i noticed the remaining battery time in zezayer was just a big ol' 7 or 8 digit number |
| 01:46:33 | Soap | the way I removed 12120 before was to view the diff from the front page, save the text as a .patch file, and then do a "patch -p0 -R" with the resulting text file. I don't see an easier way on the "working with SVN" wiki page, but I must believe there is an easier way. Is there? |
| 01:48:04 | Llorean | You could just have SVN output a diff between 12120 and 12119 I imagine, though I don't know the exact command you'd do to set that up. |
| 01:48:19 | dionoea | using svn merge svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk@12120 svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk@12119 . |
| 01:48:28 | dionoea | (while in your rockbox svn checkout) |
| 01:49:03 | Soap | and that, dionoea, will remove 12120? |
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| 01:50:39 | yuriks | Hmmmmmm |
| 01:50:42 | dionoea | yes. maybe you can even use svn merge -c -12120 . |
| 01:50:47 | dionoea | Soap: seems easier :) |
| 01:50:50 | dionoea | and it works |
| 01:51:04 | yuriks | I'm pondering wether to rip my multi-disk albums to separate folders/id3 or join them |
| 01:52:16 | Soap | wow, thank you very much dionoea. Just to be sure, that process will work at any time? It will work even if my SVN is no longer at 12120, but is at 12130 (for example)? |
| 01:53:02 | yuriks | ooo, SVN? What ya talking about? |
| 01:53:47 | Soap | hmm, I get "svn: invalid option character: c" |
| 01:54:47 | dionoea | Soap: yes it will work |
| 01:55:46 | Soap | reading svn merge help, should that be a -r not a -c? |
| 01:56:03 | dionoea | i have -c too here |
| 01:56:11 | dionoea | -c -rev == -r N:N-1 |
| 01:56:21 | dionoea | -c rev == -r N-1:N |
| 01:56:23 | Soap | hmm |
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| 01:56:47 | dionoea | i have svn version 1.4.2 here |
| 01:56:47 | Soap | how do I check what version of svn I have? |
| 01:56:51 | dionoea | −−version |
| 01:57:05 | Soap | that would do it. |
| 01:57:09 | Soap | 1.1.4 here |
| 01:57:19 | dionoea | that's quite old |
| 01:58:02 | Soap | I swear it is what apt-get got me, I'll see what upgrade does. |
| 01:58:15 | dionoea | using debian sarge ? |
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| 01:58:31 | Soap | yes |
| 01:58:50 | dionoea | well sarge packages will be old |
| 01:59:14 | Soap | yea, I must have installed SVN before I switched repositories to upgrade make to 3.81 |
| 01:59:20 | dionoea | 1.1.4 is latest in sarge |
| 01:59:26 | Llorean | dionoea: It's not working for me with 1.4.2 =/ |
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| 01:59:39 | Llorean | Different problem though |
| 01:59:43 | Llorean | Not enough arguments? |
| 01:59:45 | * | dionoea must have a magical svn build :) |
| 01:59:59 | dionoea | Llorean: what command line did you use ? |
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| 02:00:11 | Llorean | svn merge -c -12120 to try it out. |
| 02:00:17 | dionoea | you forgot the dot at the end |
| 02:00:19 | dionoea | '.' |
| 02:00:25 | Llorean | Ah |
| 02:00:28 | dionoea | :) |
| 02:00:44 | dionoea | you have to tell it which dir you want to apply that to |
| 02:00:51 | Llorean | Right |
| 02:01:33 | dionoea | hum, weird. If WCPATH is omitted, a default value of '.' is assumed |
| 02:01:39 | dionoea | it should have worked :/ |
| 02:01:46 | Llorean | Apparently it simply dislikes me. |
| 02:01:50 | yuriks | "stable" distributions/people should be shot |
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| 02:02:16 | dionoea | Llorean: why ? |
| 02:02:23 | yuriks | I'm having crappy bugs like these: |
| 02:02:28 | Llorean | dionoea: I dunno. If I knew why it disliked me, I could fix it. ;) |
| 02:02:29 | yuriks | http://www.nonlogic.org/wiki/index.php?title=C_From_Scratch |
| 02:02:41 | * | Soap googles how to switch from stable to unstable. |
| 02:02:44 | * | yuriks rubs chinhttp://www.nonlogic.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:C_From_Scratch |
| 02:02:48 | yuriks | err |
| 02:02:49 | yuriks | http://www.nonlogic.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:C_From_Scratch |
| 02:02:51 | dionoea | Soap: vim /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:02:58 | dionoea | change sarge/stable -> sid/unstable |
| 02:03:04 | dionoea | apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:03:58 | Llorean | yuriks: Why on Earth are you spamming that link in here? |
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| 02:06:09 | Soap | lookst like I will be updating the colinux image again. |
| 02:06:34 | yuriks | Llorean: nothing, just part of my "I hate outdated software" rant =P |
| 02:06:49 | yuriks | see how the stuff in the category doesn't shows when you come from a redirect? |
| 02:06:55 | Llorean | yuriks: Well this is a logged channel, please don't spam irrelevant links. |
| 02:07:17 | yuriks | Llorean: why does it being logged make any difference? |
| 02:07:20 | yuriks | and sorry |
| 02:07:46 | Llorean | Because many of us read through the logs to see if we've missed anything important, and the more extra stuff there is in the logs, the harder it is to find the important bits. |
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| 02:18:37 | Zagor | first test shot: http://bjorn.haxx.se/ircreader/ |
| 02:19:16 | Zagor | the random colors need to be adjusted, and some options added |
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| 02:19:52 | Zagor | font should probably be selectable too |
| 02:20:46 | Zagor | but not tonight, I'm way past my bedtime already. nighty nighty. |
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| 02:21:30 | yuriks | woo |
| 02:21:31 | yuriks | I got 2,4gb of music for 2 artists |
| 02:21:40 | yuriks | =] |
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| 02:27:45 | Soap | people should be able to donate to define their own color. |
| 02:27:47 | Soap | ;) |
| 02:27:56 | Soap | please no blue background. |
| 02:28:17 | scorche | Soap: didnt i tell you before how to change a repository? |
| 02:28:33 | scorche | and didnt you do it successfully? |
| 02:28:52 | Soap | scorche: you did, and it was enough to get the newest make, but not enough to get the newest svn. |
| 02:29:18 | scorche | ah |
| 02:29:33 | Soap | so I'll just go full-out and move to unstable |
| 02:29:54 | tchan | In case any of you need the docs on using svn −−> http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ |
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| 02:30:10 | * | yuriks is happy with Gentoo and not having to mess with all this repository kludge, YUCK! |
| 02:31:43 | Soap | believe me, scorche, I have our whole conversation logged. |
| 02:35:29 | scorche | heh.... |
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| 02:36:19 | XavierGr | nice irc reader Zagor |
| 02:37:09 | XavierGr | maybe you could add background colour to nicks too |
| 02:37:46 | XavierGr | that's what I've done to my mIRC script to colourize the developers' chat |
| 02:38:17 | XavierGr | bah he is not here.... :P |
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| 02:48:36 | dope | is there a possiblity that rockbox can brick my ipod? |
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| 02:49:16 | scorche | no |
| 02:49:44 | scorche | worst case scenario (you deviate from our instructions), you have to re-format it |
| 02:49:52 | dope | ah ok |
| 02:50:00 | dope | formatting isn't really a big deal |
| 02:50:22 | scorche | s/re-format/restore |
| 02:50:29 | scorche | but either way, all data is lost |
| 02:50:49 | dope | as long as no bricking takes place |
| 02:51:00 | scorche | it is quite hard to brick an ipod |
| 02:51:18 | dope | good :D |
| 02:51:24 | dope | my buddy almost did once |
| 02:51:49 | scorche | almost doesnt cut it ;) |
| 02:52:12 | dope | yea but it was close! |
| 02:52:17 | Llorean | How do you know it was close? |
| 02:52:29 | dope | it didn't really do much |
| 02:52:30 | Llorean | What is 'close' to bricking? |
| 02:52:37 | dope | couldn't access it |
| 02:52:44 | Llorean | Clearly he could if he could recover it. ;) |
| 02:52:45 | dope | then one day it started working |
| 02:52:55 | scorche | it either is bricked, or isnt....there are no shades |
| 02:53:16 | Llorean | We take brick to mean "non-recoverable without opening the device" |
| 02:53:18 | dope | well it was the weirdest thing cause it wouldn't function at all and then a couple days later everything was well |
| 02:53:33 | Llorean | iPods do funny things if the battery gets low. |
| 02:53:59 | dope | how do you gues feel about DRM? |
| 02:54:18 | Soap | I've heard of it. |
| 02:54:23 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't support any DRMed formats and is unlikely ever to. |
| 02:54:53 | dope | that's fine |
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| 02:55:04 | dope | does rockbox interface with itunes ok? |
| 02:55:13 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't "interface" with anything. |
| 02:55:17 | dope | cause i ues itunes for podcasts |
| 02:55:24 | dope | does it work properly with itunes |
| 02:55:32 | Llorean | Rockbox can index any audio files you've got on the player. |
| 02:55:39 | Llorean | But it doesn't have any additional podcast-specific features. |
| 02:55:46 | scorche | provided they are in a format that rockbox can read |
| 02:55:55 | dope | they should just be mp3 |
| 02:56:03 | Soap | "enhanced" podcasts might present a problem. |
| 02:56:53 | dope | enhanced? |
| 02:57:34 | Soap | those which have additional content in the metadata. |
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| 02:57:56 | dope | oh....like a picture for the screen? |
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| 02:58:34 | Soap | no - album art won't be read, but won't cause harm. There was a forum thread two months or so ago about them. I'll try to dig it up. |
| 03:00 |
| 03:00:28 | dope | i just read something about the daily builds don't have fonts? |
| 03:00:39 | Llorean | You just have to download the font archive |
| 03:02:31 | yuriks | yes, iPods do weird stuff when they get ow on battery =P |
| 03:02:32 | scorche | Llorean: would you mind if i asked Job Van Dam to remove his signature?....it is extremely annoying... |
| 03:03:04 | yuriks | like getting stuck on the iPodLinux bootloader and never getting to charge =P |
| 03:03:12 | Llorean | scorche: Yeah. We don't have an official policy. Tell him that you've gotten complaints from users that it makes threads more difficult to read. |
| 03:03:20 | Llorean | Ask him politely to remove it. |
| 03:03:20 | yuriks | haha |
| 03:03:26 | Llorean | If he objects, we can talk about creating a policy. |
| 03:03:28 | yuriks | "you've gotten complaints from users" |
| 03:03:37 | scorche | well, i am a user and it does... |
| 03:03:41 | Llorean | yuriks: I know of at least two users who've complained about it. Three if you count scorche himself. |
| 03:03:49 | yuriks | ah |
| 03:04:10 | Llorean | It's not a lie, but it doesn't tell the whole truth. And that helps keep it diplomatic for the time being. |
| 03:04:27 | yuriks | ok, now why does transferring stuff the iPod make my system slow? -_- |
| 03:04:32 | Llorean | I may be the evil dictator of the forums, but I can still try to ease things along. |
| 03:04:39 | Llorean | yuriks: Clearly your computer doesn't like iPods. |
| 03:05:04 | yuriks | maybe it's because my RAM sucks =P |
| 03:05:09 | yuriks | I need to get more ram =P |
| 03:05:16 | yuriks | 1gb rocked when I had it =[ |
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| 03:09:53 | Soap | Four |
| 03:10:21 | yuriks | Five |
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| 03:12:06 | Soap | yuriks: if transfering stuff to your ipod makes your system slow - I would look at your motherboard / USB card drivers. |
| 03:12:26 | Soap | I have very little ram, and have no system issues when transfering. |
| 03:12:32 | dope | do i need to unmount the ipod before i install the bootloader? |
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| 03:14:57 | yuriks | dope: yeah |
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| 03:15:13 | yuriks | Soap: well, it just makes it swap more, but that makes it slow =P |
| 03:15:25 | yuriks | but why it makes it swap if I still have 20mb free? =[ |
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| 03:23:37 | dope | how do i unmount the ipod |
| 03:23:50 | dope | is it sudo umount /media/ipod ? |
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| 03:28:08 | decayedcell | how do i update the Rockbox source to SVN, reverting all modified files |
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| 03:29:22 | tchan | svn revert -R . |
| 03:30:10 | yuriks | sweet, passwordless login works =D |
| 03:32:41 | * | Soap 's favorite command ^^ |
| 03:33:45 | decayedcell | hmm |
| 03:33:59 | decayedcell | even doing that I can't seem to get Barry's common bootloader patch working properly |
| 03:34:10 | decayedcell | the firmware compiles fine, but it always screws up when I compile the bootloader |
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| 03:37:28 | webguest97 | i need help. i flashed my h120 along time ago in august. never updated until now and now i get a codec error. |
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| 03:39:46 | webguest97 | i tried to reflash it but it says incompatable version. |
| 03:40:07 | Llorean | webguest97: Are you rebooting into the on-disk version before trying to flash? |
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| 03:41:07 | webguest97 | im not sure. how do i check this? |
| 03:41:49 | Llorean | You have to manually do it... |
| 03:41:59 | Llorean | Read the flashing instructions... |
| 03:43:09 | dope | i try to run the ipodpatcher but it tells me my drive isn't an ipod :( |
| 03:43:28 | webguest97 | says i have to load bootloader.iriver with the iriver_flash plugin right? |
| 03:43:33 | yuriks | wtf, this normalization is awful |
| 03:43:46 | * | yuriks re rips the cd without normalization |
| 03:43:58 | Llorean | yuriks: Remember, #Rockbox, not #RandomStuff |
| 03:44:04 | yuriks | =[ |
| 03:44:19 | Llorean | webguest97: Click on the rockbox.iriver file to reboot, while in Rockbox, first. |
| 03:44:27 | Llorean | So that you've loaded the on-disk new version. |
| 03:46:57 | webguest97 | ok |
| 03:47:30 | | Part yuriks ("ok ok") |
| 03:47:56 | dope | can someone give me some help with the ipodpatcher. when i run it it says drive is not an Ipod |
| 03:47:59 | dope | and i know it is |
| 03:48:23 | Llorean | dope: What iPod is it? |
| 03:48:26 | webguest97 | that worked. i musta missed that file before |
| 03:48:28 | dope | video |
| 03:48:37 | Llorean | dope: And what's the exact command line you're running? |
| 03:48:54 | dope | ./ipodpatcher /dev/sdc2 -r bootpartition.bin |
| 03:49:04 | Llorean | /dev/sdc2 is not a drive. It's a partition. |
| 03:49:09 | Llorean | Try /dev/sdc |
| 03:49:14 | dope | crap |
| 03:49:18 | Llorean | As the instructions tell you to... |
| 03:49:35 | webguest97 | ok i have the flash version loaded |
| 03:49:44 | dope | guess i missed that |
| 03:49:51 | dope | :x |
| 03:50:06 | Llorean | People tend to assume it works the way the old version worked. |
| 03:50:16 | Llorean | Though, the old version would've used /dev/sdc1 anyway. |
| 03:50:17 | dope | well i'm not on osx |
| 03:50:22 | dope | so i skipped that part |
| 03:50:51 | dope | all good now though :) |
| 03:50:51 | webguest97 | Llorean can i flash now the way i usually have to? load bootloader.iriver from iriver_flash plugin? |
| 03:50:52 | Llorean | Which part? |
| 03:51:16 | dope | the mac osx users only part where they talk about unmounting the ipod |
| 03:51:17 | Llorean | webguest97: Is there some specific reason you're updating the bootloader? |
| 03:51:23 | dope | in there i see the numbers are partitions |
| 03:51:41 | webguest97 | no but i loaded the flash version. and then restarted the player and got the codec failure again |
| 03:51:53 | Llorean | dope: Yes, but it's generally expected that linux users know to an extent how the /dev/sda represents the device and /dev/sda1 represents the partition on the device. |
| 03:52:04 | dope | i'm still learning |
| 03:52:12 | dope | so that's something new i know now |
| 03:52:17 | Llorean | webguest97: What do you mean "loaded the flash version and then restarted the device?" |
| 03:52:40 | Llorean | All I told you to do was click on rockobox.iriver before trying to flash. |
| 03:53:02 | Llorean | If you restart after doing that, you'll go back to using the outdated copy in your flash memory, which may not work with the newest copies of the codecs on your disk. |
| 03:53:26 | webguest97 | i loaded the rockbox.iriver and it restarted. then shut off the player and then i got codec failure. how do i make it always load the new version? |
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| 03:53:47 | Llorean | webguest97: You need to flash then new version. |
| 03:53:56 | Llorean | webguest97: Have you actually *read* the IriverFlashing page carefully? |
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| 03:54:48 | Llorean | webguest97: After clicking the rockbox.iriver so that you're using the on-disk version follow either "Flashing Procedure" or "Flashing with Rombox" depending on which one you were using before. |
| 03:55:04 | dope | doesn't rockbox have themes? |
| 03:55:32 | Llorean | dope: Yes. They're discussed in the manual and can be found at the WpsGallery wiki page. |
| 03:56:00 | dope | thx |
| 03:56:21 | webguest97 | i get incompatable bootloader |
| 03:56:35 | Llorean | webguest97: What file are you trying to run with iriver_flash? |
| 03:56:36 | webguest97 | after i open rombox.iriver with iriver_flash |
| 03:56:43 | webguest97 | rombox.iriver |
| 03:56:46 | Llorean | Then you need to update your bootloader first. |
| 03:58:20 | webguest97 | ok |
| 03:59:21 | webguest97 | Llorean: ok i did both. now which do i want as default? ram image or rom image? |
| 04:00 |
| 04:00:27 | Llorean | webguest97: Um, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to tell you what you want. It's your choice. |
| 04:01:18 | webguest97 | whats the difference between ram and rom image? |
| 04:02:24 | Llorean | The RAM image is copied to ram. It'll respond slightly faster but takes up RAM. The ROM image is executed from ROM. It may be slightly slower (I'm not sure if it is, or if it'll be noticeable) but uses less total RAM. |
| 04:02:54 | webguest97 | ok ill use the rom image then. |
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| 04:06:03 | webguest97 | thank you very much Llorean. now i have to do this every time i upgrade rockbox? the flash procedure. |
| 04:06:18 | Llorean | Yep. That's the cost of running it in flash. |
| 04:06:24 | webguest59 | hey i am installing rockbox right now. i am working with command prompts and am having some trouble |
| 04:06:25 | Llorean | You shouldn't need to ever do the bootloader again |
| 04:06:32 | webguest59 | sorry for interrupting the conversation |
| 04:06:33 | Llorean | But the in-RAM and in-ROM images need to be reflashed |
| 04:06:36 | webguest59 | but |
| 04:06:39 | webguest59 | i really need help |
| 04:06:51 | webguest97 | Llorean ok but i have to open rombox.iriver with the iriver_flash plugin is all i have to do? |
| 04:07:10 | Llorean | webguest97: At a minimum, yes. You may want to do rockbox.iriver too |
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| 04:07:15 | webguest59 | whenever i enter a command it says "enter command number" |
| 04:07:36 | dope | do i extract the themes right into the theme folder? |
| 04:07:38 | webguest59 | what am i supposed to do if this part happens? |
| 04:07:45 | dope | i'd assume yes |
| 04:08:13 | Llorean | dope: Most themes include several folders, and should be extracted either to the root, or to .rockbox |
| 04:08:19 | webguest97 | Llorean ok. i didnt do rockbox.iriver this time. shoud i do it now? |
| 04:08:32 | Llorean | webguest59: That's what your command prompt says to you, exactly? A direct quote? |
| 04:08:38 | webguest59 | yes |
| 04:08:39 | Llorean | webguest97: It's not necessary. |
| 04:08:52 | dope | ah ok |
| 04:08:53 | Llorean | webguest59: What Windows are you using? Does "dir" work? |
| 04:08:59 | webguest59 | i was on the bootloader installation stage |
| 04:09:08 | webguest59 | and whenever i press enter after a command |
| 04:09:12 | webguest59 | this is what it tells me |
| 04:10:04 | webguest97 | ok then i wont. now that i got the procedure down it should be easier for me. this is my cousins player anyways and hes not a computer person |
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| 04:11:09 | Llorean | webguest59: Did you see my question? |
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| 04:11:32 | webguest59 | i'm using xp. "dir"? what does that mean? |
| 04:11:39 | Llorean | It's a command... at the command prompt |
| 04:11:44 | Llorean | It shows you the contents of the folder you're in. |
| 04:11:50 | Llorean | Without the quotes. Just dir |
| 04:11:50 | webguest59 | oh |
| 04:12:02 | webguest59 | well i'm on the first step of installing the bootloader |
| 04:12:10 | webguest59 | when shoul di type in dir? |
| 04:12:15 | webguest59 | *should i |
| 04:12:16 | Llorean | At the command prompt. |
| 04:12:23 | webguest59 | before anything else? |
| 04:12:34 | Llorean | I'm just trying to find something out, it has nothing to do with installing |
| 04:13:02 | webguest59 | ok |
| 04:13:05 | webguest59 | i typed in dir |
| 04:13:11 | webguest59 | it showed me a directory of things on my computer |
| 04:13:12 | webguest59 | but |
| 04:13:23 | webguest59 | it is still asking me to enter a command number |
| 04:13:45 | Llorean | Are the exact words "Enter a command number" ? |
| 04:13:55 | webguest59 | "enter command number" |
| 04:14:02 | webguest59 | it shows up in a white box |
| 04:14:15 | Llorean | There is something configured strangely about your computer. |
| 04:14:23 | webguest59 | hmmmm |
| 04:14:29 | webguest59 | is there anything that i can do to fix this? |
| 04:14:35 | webguest59 | maybe if i log in as somebody else? |
| 04:14:49 | Llorean | The "Enter command number" box is the result of some other software installed on it or some configuration setting. I have no way of knowing what is causing this. |
| 04:15:00 | webguest59 | ok |
| 04:15:05 | webguest59 | well this isn't good news |
| 04:15:29 | webguest59 | no ideas on what might be the type of program that is causing this? |
| 04:15:49 | webguest59 | or how to get past this? |
| 04:16:37 | Llorean | It's your responsibility to know how your own computer is set up. Considering the number of programs out there, it could be anything all the way down to something a friend of yours wrote and installed as a prank. |
| 04:16:54 | webguest59 | yeah |
| 04:16:56 | webguest59 | hmmm |
| 04:17:01 | webguest59 | that's too bad |
| 04:17:11 | Llorean | It could also simply be an aspect of windows I'm not aware of. |
| 04:17:12 | webguest59 | i wish i knew more about computer programming |
| 04:17:17 | webguest59 | yeah |
| 04:17:20 | Llorean | But Google didn't suggest anything to me immediately. |
| 04:17:27 | webguest59 | i searched it too |
| 04:17:37 | webguest59 | it seems that it is usually associated with doing certain things |
| 04:17:42 | webguest59 | in the command prompt |
| 04:17:49 | webguest59 | like while using certain programs or something like that |
| 04:20:14 | webguest59 | think i found a program that might help |
| 04:20:19 | webguest59 | prompt pal |
| 04:20:25 | webguest59 | it may help, it may not |
| 04:20:54 | webguest59 | guess i'll see |
| 04:21:47 | Soap | I'll pay you a dollar, webguest59, if you could get your thoughts on one line at a time instead of eight. |
| 04:22:08 | webguest59 | oh i'm sorry. that is how i usually type. i'll stop if you don't like it. |
| 04:26:19 | webguest59 | but the prompt pal seems to be working. i'll stay on just in case i have any more questions on the rest of the installation process |
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| 04:32:43 | decayedcell | um |
| 04:32:49 | decayedcell | i removed the bootloader |
| 04:32:57 | decayedcell | and now my ipod won't boot up at all |
| 04:33:32 | Llorean | Restore your backed up bootpartition then. |
| 04:33:53 | decayedcell | when i connect it to the computer |
| 04:33:59 | decayedcell | it doesn't recognise the device |
| 04:34:04 | decayedcell | it doesn't go into disk mode |
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| 04:36:19 | decayedcell | hmm |
| 04:36:25 | decayedcell | got it running in diagnostic mode |
| 04:36:31 | decayedcell | *crosses fingers* |
| 04:37:09 | scorche | Soap: webguest59 doesnt look like the only one with that issue =/ |
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| 04:38:27 | Soap | decayedcell: I'll pay you a dollar if you could get you thoughts on one line at a time instead of six. |
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| 04:39:26 | Llorean | decayedcell: If you can't get it to go into Disk Mode, you aren't doing it right. Disk Mode is in flash. |
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| 04:40:27 | Drkepilogue | hi |
| 04:40:31 | Chris_ | 'lo? |
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| 04:40:37 | Drkepilogue | i just install rockbox on my ipod mini2g |
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| 04:40:40 | Drkepilogue | it loads RB just fine |
| 04:40:41 | webguest59 | well i have a new question. i have installed rockbox, but now i want to upload my music database. i am confused about where to start. do i need to have my ipod connected to my computer? where do i need to go to initialize the database? |
| 04:40:48 | Drkepilogue | but it cant load the Orginal Frimware |
| 04:40:59 | decayedcell | Soap okay I'll try I'm just a bit too used to typing in MSN |
| 04:41:07 | Chris_ | webguest: the install guides do a good job explain ing that |
| 04:41:58 | Llorean | webguest59: It's in the manual. |
| 04:42:24 | Llorean | Drkepilogue: That seems to be a bug with the current version of iPodPatcher. If you have your original bootpartition.bin, try restoring that and then reinstalling the bootloader and see if it helps |
| 04:42:35 | Chris_ | how about a tough question: are Julius' builds all I need to run his themes? I've installed a ton of different builds today, including his and Senab's, and I can't get it to work still |
| 04:43:08 | Llorean | Chris_: They're Unsupported Builds. You pretty much need to ask him if you have a problem with his custom builds. |
| 04:43:17 | Chris_ | gah, go figure |
| 04:43:21 | Drkepilogue | i uninstall the bootloader and reinstall it a few times, same result |
| 04:43:40 | Llorean | Drkepilogue: "Uninstall the bootloader" is different from "Restoring the original bootpartition" |
| 04:43:48 | Chris_ | Drkepilogue: just a thought: try restoring your iPod using iTunes and reinstalling RockBox |
| 04:44:28 | Drkepilogue | hmm, Lorean, what is the difference???*i sound kinda dumb* |
| 04:44:55 | Llorean | Drkepilogue: The difference is whether you use ipodpatcher N -d, or ipodpatcher N -w bootpartition.bin... |
| 04:45:59 | Drkepilogue | i use this |
| 04:45:59 | Drkepilogue | ipodpatcher [device] -w bootpartition.bin |
| 04:46:15 | Llorean | And that bootpartition.bin was from an iPod with *nothing* installed on it, and never had been? |
| 04:46:28 | Drkepilogue | yup |
| 04:46:32 | Drkepilogue | this is the first thing i did |
| 04:46:42 | Drkepilogue | before the other step... |
| 04:46:48 | Drkepilogue | oh maybe cept for the scanning |
| 04:46:58 | Llorean | Yeah, but some people have, say, iPodLinux on it before, remove that, and then install Rockbox. |
| 04:47:11 | Llorean | Or install Rockbox, remove it, make bootpartition.bin, reinstall Rockbox with the new bootloader. |
| 04:47:54 | Drkepilogue | i just restored it via itune... |
| 04:48:03 | Drkepilogue | ima try and repeat the installation process |
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| 04:48:28 | decayedcell | Llorean nvm I booted it into disk mode |
| 04:48:29 | Llorean | Well, the newest iPodPatcher does have some bugs, so it may just be that |
| 04:48:41 | Drkepilogue | could be |
| 04:48:49 | Drkepilogue | but it works fine on my 4g color |
| 04:49:13 | Drkepilogue | unless there a newer version after the bootloader with the *set hold to load OF* |
| 04:49:26 | Llorean | Drkepilogue: I didn't say the problem was with the bootloader. |
| 04:49:31 | Llorean | I said the problem was with iPodPatcher. |
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| 04:50:00 | Drkepilogue | o |
| 04:50:22 | Llorean | And it seems to affect Minis the most, though it's shown up on 5Gs I believe when they're upgraded using -a to overwrite the old bootloader rather than restoring their bootpartition first. |
| 04:50:27 | blind | What's the name of the unofficial rockbox firmware for 4G and 5G ipods? Mine was freezing up, and someone recommended it, and now I'm trying to do my friend's iPod and I can't remember the name. |
| 04:50:43 | Soap | mikeage's is it not? |
| 04:50:51 | scorche | that ist eh author |
| 04:50:56 | Soap | for the 4th - no need on the 5th. |
| 04:50:56 | blind | mikeage, thanks |
| 04:50:57 | Llorean | blind: There's not one for 5Gs designed to reduce freeing as there's not a known freezing bug on the 5g |
| 04:51:03 | Llorean | freezing |
| 04:51:04 | scorche | but there is no *the* unofficial build |
| 04:51:06 | blind | oh, it's not for the fifth? my bad. |
| 04:51:16 | Llorean | blind: There's no frequency scaling bug on the 5G |
| 04:51:39 | blind | Well, his was freezing up so I figured I'd give him the same firmware. |
| 04:51:52 | Llorean | His 5G is freezing? |
| 04:52:03 | scorche | was he using the official build? |
| 04:52:03 | Soap | the 5th / nano are rocks. sleek, sexy, heavily marketed rocks. |
| 04:52:22 | blind | yeah, he was using the official build on a 5G and it would freeze. |
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| 04:52:34 | scorche | Soap: i think "heavily marketed" is an understatement |
| 04:52:38 | blind | The playback would work, but the screen was fucked, and you couldn't navigate. |
| 04:52:57 | Soap | solid, stable...slow...and like most garden variety rocks - lacking in the battery department. |
| 04:53:17 | Llorean | blind: You should suggest to him that he should file a proper bug report, then. |
| 04:53:28 | Llorean | Things can't be fixed if nobody ever reports them. |
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| 04:53:55 | blind | hm. well i'll have him do the daily build and see if that works. |
| 04:54:03 | blind | if not, we'll file a report. |
| 04:55:51 | scorche | blind: if you do, please describe it a bit more than "the screen was fucked" |
| 04:56:16 | scorche | and in kinder words |
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| 04:57:31 | blind | scorche: lol yeah |
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| 04:59:25 | scott666 | does anyone know a way to create an itunes db that the apple firmware can use without actually using itines? id swear i saw a link to a program somewhere on the site, but im not having any luck finding it |
| 04:59:42 | Llorean | scott666: This is #Rockbox |
| 04:59:47 | scott666 | yup |
| 04:59:53 | Llorean | Rockbox neither uses nor cares about the Apple DB |
| 04:59:59 | scott666 | im aware of that |
| 05:00 |
| 05:00:08 | scott666 | thats why i dont have an apple db |
| 05:00:19 | scott666 | id just like to be able to boot into apple and get to the music too |
| 05:00:27 | Llorean | My point is that this channel has nothing to do with using the Apple firmware |
| 05:00:28 | scorche | the point is, you are asking about things that dont apply to rockbox... |
| 05:00:42 | scott666 | im sure i saw it on the rockbox page once before |
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| 05:01:37 | scorche | i am assuming you mean the forums? |
| 05:02:03 | scott666 | no, the wiki |
| 05:02:18 | Soap | scott666: see PM |
| 05:03:56 | Llorean | Anyone use M4A with Rockbox? |
| 05:05:08 | * | Llorean thinks it's not liking files larger than either the buffer, or a certain size limit. |
| 05:05:32 | Soap | wasn't there a problem with really long aac files? |
| 05:05:38 | scott666 | (found what i was looking for: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2006-11/0486.shtml) |
| 05:05:49 | Soap | regardless of size, but related to actual length? |
| 05:05:58 | Llorean | scott666: That's the mailing list. |
| 05:06:09 | scott666 | yes it is |
| 05:06:15 | Llorean | Soap: ~6 hours in this case. |
| 05:06:32 | Soap | that's a long file ;) |
| 05:07:21 | Llorean | 's an audiobook. I didn't feel like burning my Audible copy to CD and reripping, so I *cough* tried an alternative. ;) |
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| 05:12:03 | * | Llorean wishes there were some way to enforce actual *reading* of the manual, rather than selective skimming. |
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| 06:37:43 | decayedcell | has anybody got ipodpatcher 0.6 to compile? |
| 06:42:53 | Llorean | People aren't really supposed to be playing with 0.6 |
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| 06:58:33 | Llorean | decayedcell: That being said, I have no problem compiling what's in CVS right now |
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| 07:02:59 | decayedcell | Llorean what version of GCC are you using |
| 07:03:48 | Llorean | decayedcell: Whatever comes with the most recent version of Bloodshed Dev-C++ 4.9.9.2, I just tried it in windows. |
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| 07:04:17 | Llorean | decayedcell: 3.4.2 |
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| 07:07:16 | webguest02 | my ipod has frozen and i don't know what to do to unfreeze it. i changed from one song to another and it just froze. i have tried rebooting it, turning it off, all kinds of things. none of these have worked. it won't respond when i plug it into my computer via usb cable or into my ipod dock. i just installed rockbox tonight and until now it has been working fine. is there anything else that i can do to fix it |
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| 07:07:43 | webguest02 | if it means anything, my database is set up on ram, not disc |
| 07:08:11 | Llorean | webguest02: Turn on Hold, turn off Hold, hold Menu+Select for 20ish seconds, if this does not work, repeat. It will work eventually but if you wiggle your fingers too much it may fail. |
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| 07:10:01 | webguest02 | thank you very much. i was a little worried there for a second |
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| 07:16:00 | bton | hello |
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| 07:16:44 | bton | any1 there |
| 07:17:16 | Llorean | Yes. Did you have a question? |
| 07:18:26 | bton | hi |
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| 07:18:54 | bton | im kida working on trying to crack creative zen vision m firmware could anyone help? |
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| 07:20:59 | bton | do u know how to figure out the checksum |
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| 07:28:09 | bton | any there |
| 07:30:13 | Mouser_X | Yes. |
| 07:30:20 | bton | could u help |
| 07:30:23 | Mouser_X | Chances are that those who can help you aren't here. |
| 07:30:33 | bton | im kida working on trying to crack creative zen vision m firmware could anyone help? |
| 07:30:33 | Mouser_X | While I am here, I can't help. |
| 07:30:39 | bton | kk |
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| 09:09:37 | mitch04 | hey |
| 09:09:39 | mitch04 | any1 there |
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| 09:25:46 | Lear | jdgordon: just curious, but why call settings_save in settings_load_config? |
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| 09:33:40 | mitch04 | hey can anyone help me please? |
| 09:36:19 | Llorean | Depends on what problem you're having |
| 09:36:24 | Llorean | Nobody knows everything. |
| 09:37:39 | mitch04 | ok umm trying to do creative zen vision m you know anything about checksum |
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| 09:39:28 | Llorean | Nothing that you'd find useful, I'm sure |
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| 10:04:29 | ConstructingGod | hey |
| 10:05:10 | ConstructingGod | does rockbox have a shuffle mode where once one song is played it won't play that song again untill all the remaining songs in that playlist have been played at least once? |
| 10:05:24 | Llorean | That's what shuffling a playlist *does* |
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| 10:05:32 | Llorean | It's kinda the definition of "shuffle" |
| 10:06:03 | ConstructingGod | .... no some shuffle will repeat a played song before playing another song that hasn't been played (in the same playlist) |
| 10:06:34 | JdGordon | no.. thats random play.. rockbox doesnt do that |
| 10:06:35 | Llorean | That's not a proper shuffle then. |
| 10:06:38 | JdGordon | rockbox does a shuffle |
| 10:06:46 | Llorean | That's technically a mis-named Random as JdGordon said. |
| 10:06:46 | Mikachu | you can shuffle the playlist, and you can play in shuffle mode, they're two different things |
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| 10:07:01 | ConstructingGod | wtf |
| 10:07:26 | ConstructingGod | putting all the technical defiitions aside |
| 10:07:34 | ConstructingGod | will rockbox do what my question asked? |
| 10:07:41 | Mikachu | yes |
| 10:07:49 | ConstructingGod | ok how do i set it up to do so |
| 10:07:56 | JdGordon | just enable shuffle mode |
| 10:07:56 | ConstructingGod | because i have 2 shuffle modes in my player |
| 10:08:03 | ConstructingGod | which one |
| 10:08:05 | JdGordon | from the playback menu |
| 10:08:12 | JdGordon | there is only 1 shuffle mode in rb |
| 10:08:15 | Mikachu | easiest is to go to the quickscreen and select Shuffle |
| 10:08:16 | safetydan | There is only one shuffle in rockbox |
| 10:08:16 | ConstructingGod | the one under repeat or the one under shuffle on/off? |
| 10:08:26 | safetydan | Repeat? That's about repeating the whole playlist |
| 10:08:52 | JdGordon | repeat shuffle is something different.. that means shuffle the playlist when its finished and start again |
| 10:08:53 | safetydan | if repeat is on, and you reach the end of the playlist, it will start again at the beginning |
| 10:08:55 | ConstructingGod | so the regular shuffle mode (on the left side) is the one I want to mess with? |
| 10:09:33 | JdGordon | bingo |
| 10:09:38 | ConstructingGod | and that won't playback any songs already played on that playlist right? |
| 10:09:59 | Llorean | Nope |
| 10:10:05 | Llorean | I do believe it describes it in the manual. |
| 10:10:05 | ConstructingGod | thank you! |
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| 10:10:43 | ConstructingGod | now if only i have a time machine life would be perfect |
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| 10:14:49 | KillerX12 | i need help with my 30 gb ipod video |
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| 10:15:04 | safetydan | ask, and maybe ye shall receive |
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| 10:15:51 | tucoz | Zagor: in case you read the logs. It would be nice if your script made a href out of the links posted in the channel. |
| 10:16:33 | KillerX12 | when i put movies/music videos on my ipod...they try 2 load but cant/dont |
| 10:16:58 | Mikachu | is this really a real name? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DaurnImator |
| 10:17:11 | tucoz | what kind of musc and movies is that? what formats is it |
| 10:17:28 | JdGordon | Comment: Sorry - but i refuse to give out my name |
| 10:17:46 | Mikachu | ah |
| 10:17:47 | KillerX12 | i already converted them 2 mpeg4 |
| 10:17:59 | Mikachu | but clearly the signup page says that you must |
| 10:18:23 | tucoz | KillerX12: rockbox can not play mpeg4 |
| 10:18:30 | JdGordon | yeah, ill kick him off twikiusersgroup :D |
| 10:18:37 | KillerX12 | ooooo |
| 10:18:45 | KillerX12 | oops |
| 10:18:49 | JdGordon | actually... na someone else can |
| 10:18:52 | Bagder | daurn is mr paranoia clearly |
| 10:18:56 | KillerX12 | wut does it play |
| 10:19:13 | Mikachu | it's sort of silly that he's on the ircnicks page, Daurnimator = DaurnImator, o rly? |
| 10:19:22 | Llorean | Bagder: There's a message for you in the forums. All caps thread. :) |
| 10:19:22 | safetydan | KillerX12, mpeg2 |
| 10:19:23 | Bagder | haha |
| 10:19:32 | Bagder | lucky me |
| 10:19:44 | tucoz | Is it PluginMPEGPlayer the page is called? |
| 10:19:49 | Bagder | silly persons |
| 10:19:54 | Mikachu | MpegPlayerPlugin |
| 10:20:00 | Mikachu | i think |
| 10:20:33 | tucoz | KillerX12: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 10:20:38 | Mikachu | ach |
| 10:20:40 | tucoz | hehe |
| 10:20:48 | Bagder | Llorean: I'll refrain from replying, yours is good enough |
| 10:21:23 | Llorean | I just found it slightly entertaining. You're sneaky, getting on his local network like that. |
| 10:21:25 | Bagder | I should fix that passwd thing one day |
| 10:21:32 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:21:54 | Bagder | I've always thouht |
| 10:21:59 | Bagder | thought it self-explaining |
| 10:22:05 | Bagder | but clearly it isnt to many |
| 10:22:48 | KillerX12 | thx tucoz |
| 10:22:55 | Bagder | I get emailed and blamed for all sorts of hacking attempts due to that... |
| 10:24:04 | Mikachu | haha |
| 10:24:18 | tucoz | KillerX12: you can read about the supported audio formats here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SoundCodecs#Current_status |
| 10:24:42 | Mouser_X3 | (Though, that page could use an update, as I recall.) |
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| 10:25:23 | Llorean | Bagder: Clearly you're clever enough to get into all kinds of interesting places, but silly enough to leave your email behind once you leave. |
| 10:25:35 | Bagder | hehe indeed |
| 10:26:11 | Bagder | I guess these people think they're clever when they manage to find tracks back to the "hacker"... |
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| 10:28:19 | amiconn | morning |
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| 10:30:16 | JdGordon | any ideas why im getting i/o device errors on my nano? dud hardware or maybe something else? |
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| 10:39:21 | webguest65 | hi, I'm trying to make a patched version of rockbox (rtc for h120). I downoaded a daily tarball, extracted it, applied the patch, and made a build dir. but when I tyoe "../tools/configure" I get a "permission denied" message. what am I doing wrong? |
| 10:39:36 | webguest65 | *type |
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| 10:42:40 | NineTeen67Comet | Hello .. I'm interested in snagging an X5 (What's the diff between X5/X5L/X5?) .. but I would like to play with Rockbox on it. Does anyone know if you can watch video playing on the X5 on a TV via the audio/vid out when using Rockbox? |
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| 10:43:05 | Bagder | NineTeen67Comet: X5L is and X5 with large battery, X5V is an X5 without FM tuner |
| 10:43:11 | Bagder | s/is and/is an/ |
| 10:43:33 | Bagder | NineTeen67Comet: and no, X5 has no TV-out |
| 10:43:46 | NineTeen67Comet | aha .. guess I'll seek the X5L then .. never have enough battery .. (I've got an A2 that I love, but I want a little lighter smaller to run with) .. |
| 10:44:04 | Bagder | the X5L has something around 30 hours run-time |
| 10:44:09 | NineTeen67Comet | Any A2 Rockbox in the works? |
| 10:44:14 | Bagder | nope |
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| 10:44:48 | NineTeen67Comet | Bummer .. I'm always looking to hack my stuff .. :) |
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| 10:45:01 | Bagder | NineTeen67Comet: then start the port! ;-) |
| 10:45:49 | NineTeen67Comet | Bagder: grin .. there is actually limited work there via the iaudiphile.net forums I found .. not much functionality, but he got it to boot via Linux Kernel .. I'm no programmer (yet) .. so I'm little or no help there .. |
| 10:46:14 | JdGordon | shit! is there any way to revert a accidental svn revert? :'( |
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| 10:46:34 | Mikachu | JdGordon: see if you have any *.mine files |
| 10:46:59 | JdGordon | *phew* I was in the wrong source tree :p |
| 10:47:02 | Bagder | NineTeen67Comet: the A2 uses the same chipset as a wide range of other players, so you could join forces with other hackers of such similar players |
| 10:47:03 | JdGordon | my chages are safe |
| 10:47:05 | Mikachu | hehe |
| 10:47:17 | Bagder | NineTeen67Comet: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TexasInstrumentsTMS320 |
| 10:47:47 | Bagder | perhaps the best lead being ArchOpen and Neuros |
| 10:49:14 | JdGordon | does anyone know what the story with the unused functions in menu.c is? |
| 10:49:27 | webguest65 | did anyone notice my question? |
| 10:49:41 | JdGordon | put_cursorxy, menu_movedown/up and a few others |
| 10:49:59 | webguest65 | about geting permission denied from ../tools/configure? |
| 10:50:00 | Mikachu | webguest65: chmod +x configure |
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| 10:50:21 | Bagder | webguest65: and a general advice is to first make sure you can build unpatched |
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| 10:51:02 | webguest65 | Mikachu: thanks! |
| 10:51:11 | webguest65 | Bagder: ok... |
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| 10:52:58 | amiconn | JdGordon: menu_moveup & menu_movedown aren't unused: they are exported to the plugin api |
| 10:53:22 | JdGordon | amiconn: yes, but nothing actually calls them |
| 10:53:38 | JdGordon | 2 other functions in menu.c is called only by radio.c |
| 10:53:38 | amiconn | put_cursorxy indeed looks like it's unused, maybe it's a remnant from before the gui list code |
| 10:54:03 | hcs | I'm interested in making the wiki viewer usable on other targets, it is tied to the iPod input scheme right now, is there a generalized set of button defines I could use? |
| 10:54:35 | amiconn | Depends. |
| 10:54:40 | Mikachu | there's a wiki viewer? |
| 10:54:48 | hcs | in development |
| 10:55:06 | hcs | 4755 |
| 10:55:36 | hcs | all I need is "up", "down", "select" and "menu" |
| 10:55:44 | amiconn | If you use button actions, this should be possible, but only a very few plugins use the actions concept, and experience has shown that unlike in the core, plugins don't profit from the actions concept too much |
| 10:55:51 | Mikachu | sort of useless on a nano, but cool nonetheless |
| 10:56:02 | amiconn | There are simply too many different needs |
| 10:56:11 | hcs | and possibly "back", though that could be in the menu |
| 10:56:38 | hcs | well, I'll have a look at how the text viewer does it |
| 10:57:19 | NineTeen67Comet | Thanks Bagder .. I'm at that link now looking around a little .. |
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| 10:58:01 | amiconn | hcs: What are the ram requirements of this plugin? |
| 10:58:28 | | Part NineTeen67Comet |
| 10:58:48 | hcs | let me check, I only wrote the UI bit |
| 10:59:40 | Mikachu | having a portable wikipedia is sort of like the hitchhikers guide |
| 10:59:53 | Mouser_X | That's what I was thinking... |
| 10:59:56 | hcs | yeah, it's handy |
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| 11:00:05 | Llorean | Handy, but not reliably accurate. |
| 11:00:06 | hcs | mostly just for trivia purposes, though |
| 11:00:14 | Llorean | Very H2G2 |
| 11:00:23 | Mouser_X | Indeed. |
| 11:00:40 | Llorean | It'd be kinda neat of H2G2 had an easily parsed dump |
| 11:00:40 | Mikachu | h2g2.com never really took off |
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| 11:01:12 | Llorean | Yeah |
| 11:01:22 | Llorean | It's been around quite a while too. |
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| 11:02:04 | hcs | yeah, I recall that a while before wikipeida, my reaction was more "this could be funny" than "this could be useful" |
| 11:02:05 | Llorean | I'm pretty sure it actually predates wikipedia.com at least |
| 11:02:27 | Llorean | I thought "This could be interesting" in a "It'll be entertaining, but it'd be nice if there was useful content too" |
| 11:02:51 | Llorean | How big are the portable wikipedia dumps? |
| 11:03:19 | hcs | 2.4 GB, iirc |
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| 11:06:57 | hcs | looks like it uses around 300k |
| 11:07:40 | Llorean | Uses 300k? |
| 11:07:47 | Llorean | Is that the plugin size? |
| 11:08:11 | hcs | that's I think what it gets from the plugin buffer |
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| 11:10:50 | hcs | on another subject, is anyone around with a coldfire target who'd like to tell me how the spc patch runs after I've put some stuff in iram? |
| 11:11:03 | hcs | I'm looking at you, XavierGr |
| 11:11:34 | midgey | hcs: not fullspeed here |
| 11:11:40 | midgey | on an h320 |
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| 11:12:02 | hcs | I understand, I use no iram, I'm working on that now, could you test it in a few minutes? |
| 11:12:25 | midgey | eh, im actually on my way to bed, its 0500 here |
| 11:12:32 | hcs | same here :) |
| 11:12:35 | hcs | but I just got up |
| 11:12:44 | midgey | :) |
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| 11:27:00 | hcs | whoa,how big is the IRAM on the h1xx? |
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| 11:29:46 | hcs | ah, mn |
| 11:29:48 | hcs | *nm |
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| 11:31:04 | XavierGr | hcs: you asked for me? |
| 11:31:34 | hcs | yes, I have an h1xx build that I'd like you to try, or I could send you the patch |
| 11:32:02 | XavierGr | better send me the patch to compile it for H300 (which is more intensive than H100) |
| 11:32:07 | hcs | ok |
| 11:32:18 | XavierGr | but I can test it on H100 too |
| 11:33:17 | XavierGr | are you uploading the patch somewhere? |
| 11:33:28 | hcs | on the tracker now |
| 11:33:37 | amiconn | H100 and H300 should perform the same regarding codecs |
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| 11:34:34 | XavierGr | amiconn: maybe, but still... H300 has colour so I always have in the back of my head that H100 runs a little faster |
| 11:34:44 | XavierGr | though I might be completely wrong |
| 11:36:04 | amiconn | Depends. If there are not many graphical operations, it doesn't matter |
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| 11:37:09 | amiconn | H300 *used* to be a couple of percents slower due to the button polling, but thanks to using a special feature of the pcf50605 this is no longer true |
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| 11:38:07 | amiconn | (jhMikeS found that feature in the datasheet and implemented it for X5, and I backported it to H300) |
| 11:38:14 | XavierGr | hcs: I am compiling now, I will let you know |
| 11:38:18 | hcs | thanks |
| 11:39:10 | hcs | hm, my ipod usb cable is disintegrating from heavy use |
| 11:39:22 | XavierGr | gee I hate it that my H300 is one among those that have a problem with the USB bootloader mode... |
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| 11:41:11 | predius | hey gu, how far into the ipod 5.5 is rockbox? |
| 11:41:33 | XavierGr | hcs: it seems to be considerably faster |
| 11:41:53 | hcs | ...but still not fast enough? |
| 11:42:00 | XavierGr | in the last version 10 seconds would be playbacked in 20 |
| 11:42:03 | XavierGr | now it is more like 15 |
| 11:42:10 | hcs | hm |
| 11:42:28 | XavierGr | don't tell my you've run out of ideas!! :( |
| 11:42:40 | hcs | one unfortunate aspect is that a lot of variables are in a large global structure, which won't fit in IRAM |
| 11:42:54 | hcs | I might be able to pick out some of the heavily-used ones |
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| 11:43:59 | XavierGr | I have to say that quality is top notch :) |
| 11:44:19 | XavierGr | even better from the mp3 rips I have from Galbadia hotel |
| 11:44:25 | hcs | blargg is quite good at this |
| 11:44:41 | dan_a | predius: 30Gb works. We've worked out the technical problems with the 80Gb model, now we just need to implement them in a way that doesn't break support for the other players |
| 11:45:20 | XavierGr | hcs: so is it realtime now on ipods? |
| 11:45:31 | predius | dan_a: and battery life? |
| 11:45:49 | hcs | XavierGr: for almost everything, yes |
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| 11:45:59 | Mikachu | hcs: if we're talking about the nsf player, i noticed some nsfs play back fine at pitch 200% while some struggle at normal speed |
| 11:46:10 | dan_a | predius: I guess it will be the same as the other iPods: about 50% of the original firmware at the moment. |
| 11:46:38 | hcs | Mikachu: we're talking about the SPC player, which device do you notice this on with NSF? |
| 11:46:43 | Mikachu | ah |
| 11:46:46 | Mikachu | on my nano |
| 11:46:55 | hcs | hm |
| 11:47:07 | hcs | can you recall any in particular? |
| 11:47:13 | Mikachu | i don't remember which one it was, i can see if i find it |
| 11:48:28 | Mikachu | ah, indiana jones |
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| 11:49:00 | hcs | I almost certainly have it, I'll check it out |
| 11:49:00 | Mikachu | the first subtrack |
| 11:49:39 | Mikachu | seems to be the same with other subtracks |
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| 11:50:37 | XavierGr | it would be cool to see midi integrated with the playback system just like spc and nsf |
| 11:51:00 | XavierGr | though I guess the patchset is difficult to handle with the playback code |
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| 11:58:56 | hcs | XavierGr: want to try another? |
| 11:59:17 | XavierGr | sure |
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| 11:59:37 | XavierGr | tell me when uploaded |
| 11:59:41 | hcs | up |
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| 12:00:37 | Llorean | Bagder: You here? |
| 12:00:42 | hcs | er, cpufreq3.patch is in there by accident, will only affect iPods anyway |
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| 12:00:48 | hcs | well, PP5020 |
| 12:02:17 | midkay | Llorean: let me get one of your "opinion" things. :) |
| 12:02:51 | midkay | flat black: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1893/clockdigits320x240x16yi6.png |
| 12:02:53 | midkay | beveled: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/24/clockdigitszf9.png |
| 12:03:19 | Llorean | midkay: Does the Clock override the currently set backdrop? |
| 12:03:26 | midkay | it will. |
| 12:03:29 | Llorean | Alright. |
| 12:03:51 | Llorean | The beveled ones look nice. Not my personal thing, but I think people will like them. |
| 12:04:15 | midkay | i'd considered allowing it, but i can't really stand transparent-thus-aliased bitmaps.. especially on like big text. |
| 12:05:09 | Llorean | I don't really think any of the current plugins should really allow custom backdrops |
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| 12:05:43 | midkay | ah, well i was actually thinking about custom (user's set) colors.. |
| 12:05:49 | midkay | but same problem.. ugly, aliased bitmaps. |
| 12:05:54 | Llorean | Yeah |
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| 12:06:20 | XavierGr | hcs: OMG I want to kiss you!!! It is realtime! :D |
| 12:06:40 | hcs | excellent |
| 12:07:03 | XavierGr | it sounds and plays perfectly without gaps |
| 12:07:14 | XavierGr | 70% boost ratio so far |
| 12:07:15 | hcs | well, it won't be that way for every track, I assure you |
| 12:07:20 | hcs | lots of variation between SPCs |
| 12:07:32 | hcs | Uncharted Waters 2 has been the slowest I've seen on iPod so far. |
| 12:07:35 | XavierGr | do you know some very intensive ones? |
| 12:07:39 | XavierGr | h okay |
| 12:07:52 | hcs | (awesome music, too, highly recommended) |
| 12:08:34 | hcs | now I've got to see how this affects iPods, if it is damaging I'll have to make that whole thing conditional |
| 12:09:16 | XavierGr | what kind of magic did you use? |
| 12:09:22 | hcs | IRAM |
| 12:09:32 | XavierGr | heh magic indeed |
| 12:10:03 | hcs | I'm glad it worked so well |
| 12:10:35 | XavierGr | now I will test uncharted waters 2 too |
| 12:10:54 | XavierGr | but I think Castlevania 4 spc tracks are quite intensive |
| 12:11:14 | hcs | Mast in the Mist was the one I noticed first |
| 12:12:56 | iwantanimac | what've you got working realtime? MIDI (I looked at the log - that's my best guess) |
| 12:13:05 | hcs | SPC, SNES music |
| 12:13:17 | iwantanimac | ah. |
| 12:13:21 | iwantanimac | cool |
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| 12:14:12 | XavierGr | hcs: which track number is Mas in the Mist? Because the archive I downloaded has strange names |
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| 12:14:33 | hcs | uw2-03 in the set I got from snesmusic.org |
| 12:14:50 | XavierGr | hmm never checked that site |
| 12:15:02 | XavierGr | I use galbadia hotel for all my game music |
| 12:15:03 | hcs | it is as close to HVSC as it gets for SPC |
| 12:15:06 | XavierGr | (and anime) |
| 12:16:09 | hcs | hmm, actually seems to be running better, if anything, now |
| 12:16:30 | XavierGr | uncharted waters new horizons is the game? |
| 12:16:39 | hcs | yes |
| 12:17:02 | hcs | Dai Koukai Jidai 2 |
| 12:17:20 | Mikachu | try zophar.net |
| 12:17:39 | XavierGr | what kind of game is that rpg? |
| 12:17:44 | hcs | Mikachu: as good as zophar's collection is for some things, snesmusic.org is pretty much definitive |
| 12:18:01 | hcs | XavierGr: sailing, trading, piracy |
| 12:18:23 | JdGordon | anyone wanna talk about the upcoming menu changes? I want to run the new and old code together... does it sound ok to put the new menus in apps/menus/ and slowly remove code from apps/*_menu.c ? |
| 12:19:54 | XavierGr | hcs I got a rsn file, is that an archive type file? |
| 12:20:11 | hcs | XavierGr: yes, it is just a renamed RAR |
| 12:20:19 | XavierGr | ah okay |
| 12:21:29 | Mikachu | hm, the sd3 spcs i have are inverted, i wonder if these are better |
| 12:21:45 | XavierGr | sd3? |
| 12:21:50 | Mikachu | seiken densetsu :) |
| 12:21:52 | XavierGr | seiken densetsu? |
| 12:21:53 | XavierGr | lol |
| 12:21:54 | XavierGr | haha |
| 12:21:55 | Mikachu | aka secret of mana 2 |
| 12:22:07 | XavierGr | secret of mana 1 was my best rpg in snes |
| 12:22:33 | Llorean | Calling it Secret of Mana 2 is a misnomer since then what would you call Seiken Densetsu 1? |
| 12:22:41 | XavierGr | with my cousin (Genre9mp3) we were playing hours and hours when we were youngsters |
| 12:22:46 | hcs | Final Fantasy Adventure for GB |
| 12:22:51 | Mikachu | what hcs said |
| 12:23:11 | Mikachu | seiken densetsu 2 is secret of mana |
| 12:23:27 | XavierGr | I still feel very nostalgic when I listen to Secret of Mana music |
| 12:23:37 | Mikachu | you should play sd3 then |
| 12:23:41 | Mikachu | there is a fan translation |
| 12:23:53 | XavierGr | I played Seiken Densetsu 3 on an emulator (ZSens) |
| 12:23:57 | XavierGr | yeah it was quite good |
| 12:24:00 | Mikachu | ah |
| 12:24:26 | hcs | XavierGr: spc21 is up, there shouldn't be any change for you so you don't have to bother with it |
| 12:25:08 | XavierGr | It was fun to play secret of mana with 2 players over the net using zsnes' net play |
| 12:25:28 | XavierGr | hcs: I can assure you now that all tracks are realtime on H300 |
| 12:25:28 | Mikachu | nah, this one is also inverted, probably the same rip |
| 12:25:43 | XavierGr | even the one you mentioned |
| 12:25:53 | hcs | video game chat would probably be better located in #rockbox-community (just a note to get people into #rockbox-community) |
| 12:25:58 | hcs | XavierGr: great! |
| 12:26:09 | Mikachu | it's such a bother to change channels when a conversation slowly drifts :) |
| 12:26:17 | XavierGr | eh? there is a #rockbox-community channel? |
| 12:26:21 | scorche | so is #rockbox-community taking off? |
| 12:26:27 | hcs | scorche: er, no |
| 12:26:35 | hcs | but I bring it up whenever I can |
| 12:26:43 | scorche | well, at least it is doing beter than the last attempt |
| 12:28:13 | hcs | Mikachu: which indiana jones was it that you sent? |
| 12:28:32 | XavierGr | hcs: are you going to commit it anytime soon? |
| 12:28:35 | Mikachu | i don't know, the file is just indianajones.nsf |
| 12:28:52 | Mikachu | if the tags don't say what game it is, i have no idea |
| 12:29:00 | hcs | hm, you're right, Last Crusade is playing very poorly |
| 12:29:18 | hcs | time to bust out the profiler |
| 12:29:51 | hcs | XavierGr: I'll be posting on the forum asking for more testers soon, I'd like to hear of it tested on a few more targets before even suggesting it for SVN |
| 12:30:37 | hcs | it does play beautifully, though, doesn't it |
| 12:30:54 | Llorean | hcs: 21 is the latest version? |
| 12:31:01 | hcs | Llorean: yes |
| 12:31:47 | XavierGr | it is now playing for 10 minutes without any kind of glitches |
| 12:31:55 | JdGordon | scorche: put rockbox-community in the topic... might help it |
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| 12:32:14 | Mikachu | what's the bug number for spc? |
| 12:32:23 | DataGhost | http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ga/2007/ga070128.gif |
| 12:32:24 | DataGhost | :) |
| 12:32:36 | Mikachu | ah found it |
| 12:32:36 | hcs | Mikachu: 6542 |
| 12:32:38 | scorche | JdGordon: but that is off-topic =P |
| 12:32:46 | Mikachu | i usually don't have luck with the search function |
| 12:33:47 | Mikachu | there's also a 2727 |
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| 12:34:21 | hcs | that's quite old |
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| 12:34:30 | Mikachu | yeah, but it's still open |
| 12:35:06 | hcs | well, we still don't have 7z, though I wouldn't consider it at all likely |
| 12:35:40 | Mikachu | zip or rar or .tar.gz would probably help the same amount |
| 12:35:50 | Mikachu | but it's not like spc archives take a lot of space in the first place |
| 12:36:05 | Mikachu | .gym are worse :) |
| 12:36:16 | hcs | using any compression would require a major reworking, unless you stuff it in the codec |
| 12:36:31 | Mikachu | yeah, especially for more than one file per archive |
| 12:36:52 | hcs | and as we know the handling for that is not too good |
| 12:38:25 | hcs | interestingly, we're using the library first suggested in 2727 |
| 12:38:43 | Llorean | hcs: It seems to have a little problem with file lengths. |
| 12:39:12 | hcs | Llorean: please do continue |
| 12:39:40 | Llorean | hcs: Well, for example the very short "The players have gone to sleep at the inn" sound from FFVI ("Nighty Night" it seems to be titled") is about 6 seconds... shows a track length of 2:55 |
| 12:40:21 | hcs | I'm only reading the "basic" tags in the header, there's a whole different tagging system that sticks extra data at the end of the file |
| 12:40:43 | hcs | all sets from snesmusic.org seem to be tagged correctly with the basic tags |
| 12:40:48 | Llorean | hcs: So if a file is improperly tagged it could show up with a length of either 2:55 or 3:05? |
| 12:41:00 | Llorean | These seem to be the two lengths I get on the files. |
| 12:41:30 | hcs | oh, those are the default times |
| 12:41:56 | Llorean | Default? |
| 12:42:00 | Mikachu | goof troop plays fine on ipod nano |
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| 12:42:37 | Mikachu | Llorean: spc tracks don't have lengths |
| 12:42:48 | Mikachu | it's just a small program written for the sound chip on the snes |
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| 12:43:12 | hcs | the default is 3:05, 2:55 might result from junk in that field |
| 12:43:18 | Llorean | Mikachu: Well, about half of mine seem to have defined lengths, and the other half are 2:55 or 3:05. Would it be possible to detect when there are no more instructions to perform? |
| 12:43:28 | mattzz | Is it just me or is archos build broken (/sh-elf/bin/ld: region FLASH is full)? |
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| 12:43:41 | Llorean | So even if the time remaining was improper it could move on to the next track? |
| 12:43:46 | hcs | Llorean: yes, I should be able to add silence detection, as there was for NSF |
| 12:44:01 | Bagder | mattzz: http://build.rockbox.org/ shows them broken... |
| 12:44:15 | Llorean | Anyway, other than that, which is more my bad files than anything, everything seems fine here. |
| 12:44:21 | hcs | great |
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| 12:44:27 | mattzz | Bagder, should have looked. Another stupid one... |
| 12:44:36 | Llorean | hcs: Gigabeat is what I've just tested on, since iPods and Hxxxs seemed covered. |
| 12:44:50 | hcs | ah, no fair, it's worked on gigabeat since day 1 |
| 12:45:02 | Bagder | mattzz: its the v2 and fm problem that has grown to also include the plain recorder now |
| 12:45:07 | hcs | Llorean: you can enable echo processing and gaussian filtering, too, if you want |
| 12:45:07 | Llorean | hcs: Yes, but it's good to know you haven't broken it. |
| 12:45:43 | Llorean | hcs: I can test on H100 and iPod Nano too, but if it works on any iPod, it works on the Nano, and the Hxxx seems done as well. |
| 12:45:56 | hcs | I'll try to find an iAudio guy |
| 12:46:01 | Llorean | Bagder: How would you feel if I suggested some changes to the "Download" category of the menu? |
| 12:46:44 | Bagder | Llorean: I'm all for improvements! |
| 12:47:04 | JdGordon | the new menus are going to be paniful to bring in :'( |
| 12:47:18 | Llorean | Bagder: I was thinking "Release" "Current Build" (which would be the SVN builds page) and "Extras" (A page containing a link to the daily fonts, a doom.zip containing rockdoom.wad and freedoom.wad or doom1.wad, and a link to the WPS Gallery) |
| 12:47:37 | Llorean | Bagder: Then, moving the current Daily Builds page to a link on the actual SVN Builds page entitled simply "Archived Versions" |
| 12:47:41 | mattzz | Bagder, I am currently working on a little memory monitor, would that be of some help for the development process? |
| 12:48:11 | Bagder | Llorean: I like it |
| 12:49:12 | Llorean | I think it'd simplify for people what to download, and maybe even reduce "Where do I find the fonts" and "Where do I download Doom" questions. |
| 12:49:27 | Llorean | Especially if the doom wads are already in a /.rockbox/doom folder structure in the zip. |
| 12:49:28 | Mikachu | hcs: it doesn't seem to compile if i undef NOINTERP or ECHO |
| 12:49:44 | Mikachu | Spc_Dsp.h: In function âDSP_run_â: |
| 12:49:44 | Mikachu | Spc_Dsp.h:597: error: âstruct Spc_Dspâ has no member named âramâ |
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| 12:49:59 | hcs | Mikachu: ah, darn, I'll have to fix that up |
| 12:50:26 | decayedcell | barrywardell: your patch appears to be working on my 5.5G Video |
| 12:50:39 | markun | Llorean: any maybe the "releases" page should direct people to the SVN builds instead of the daily |
| 12:51:02 | decayedcell | barrywardell: however your latest v7 cop patch causes lots of lag |
| 12:51:02 | Bagder | markun: "current build" would be the svn builds, yes |
| 12:51:02 | Mikachu | hcs: it sounds sort of like an old LP, is that because of no interpolation? |
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| 12:51:59 | Mikachu | hcs: also the waterfall backround noise in one of the sd2 files sounds wrong :) |
| 12:52:18 | hcs | Mikachu: some of the crackle you hear is from the linear interpolation used in the DSP, and again in rockbox to resample from 32KHz to 44.1Hz |
| 12:52:28 | Mikachu | hcs: "Always Together" |
| 12:52:42 | hcs | I'll check it out, but there's likely not much I can do |
| 12:53:01 | Mikachu | it would be nice if someone fixed setting sample rates on ipods, i think someone said it was settable at least |
| 12:53:48 | Mikachu | and by fix i mean implement |
| 12:54:17 | hcs | blargg talked about implementing a better resampler |
| 12:55:23 | markun | Mikachu: Do you know which clocks are available to the wolfson DAC in the ipods? |
| 12:55:35 | Mikachu | no idea |
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| 12:56:12 | markun | The Gigabeat can choose from a 24MHz and 16.9MHz clock to make all but 1 supported rockbox frequencies |
| 12:56:32 | hcs | it's a shame that I have to mutilate these SPCs to see how they work with default length... |
| 12:56:44 | markun | if the ipods only have the 24MHz you can still make everything, but the 44.1kHz ones will be a bit off |
| 12:56:55 | Llorean | markun: Is the Gigabeat's remote supposed to be functioning properly yet? |
| 12:57:25 | markun | Llorean: well, right now it only works as intended in the WPS |
| 12:57:27 | hcs | markun: what do we run it at now? |
| 12:57:34 | Llorean | markun: It works pretty well in the menus too |
| 12:57:38 | markun | hcs: 24 I believe |
| 12:57:47 | Llorean | markun: My concern was just when the main unit is on Hold, and the remote isn't. There's some real strangeness there. |
| 12:58:00 | Llorean | Is that supposed to be working? |
| 12:58:05 | markun | Llorean: yes, that's because of the "LCD Power off" feature |
| 12:58:40 | markun | Llorean: if you disable it in the menu it will also work with the backlight off |
| 12:58:47 | markun | with hold on even |
| 12:58:47 | Llorean | Ah, okay |
| 12:58:59 | Llorean | Why does the LCD Power Off prevent the remote from working fully? |
| 12:59:31 | markun | because it also goes to some other screen to prevent screen updates or something. Didn't look at the code yet. |
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| 13:00:23 | Llorean | Ah, gotcha |
| 13:00:27 | Llorean | Just curious. :) |
| 13:00:51 | Llorean | I was more or less curious if it was something that may be fixable, or if that was just a set cost for using the poweroff feature. |
| 13:01:31 | markun | it's fixable. I think sloth was working on it but he took things a bit too personal when his splash screen commits weren't appreciated |
| 13:01:39 | markun | I haven't seen him in a while |
| 13:01:54 | markun | If only people would communicate more.. |
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| 13:02:13 | Llorean | Always a problem |
| 13:03:14 | XavierGr | hcs: seeking doesn't seem to work right |
| 13:03:28 | hcs | XavierGr: yes, it is intentionally nonfunctional |
| 13:03:36 | XavierGr | really? |
| 13:03:41 | hcs | if you seek backwards it restarts the track, otherwise it is ignored |
| 13:04:00 | hcs | seeking may be implemented, but wasn't my first concern (which was speed_ |
| 13:04:07 | XavierGr | of course |
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| 13:06:17 | Bagder | that sansa emulator sounds mighty cool... |
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| 13:07:24 | Llorean | Aye, it is nifty sounding. |
| 13:10:33 | markun | hcs: does it have looping like SID? |
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| 13:10:54 | JdGordon | what the heck does dwarf2_read_address: Corrupted DWARF expression. mean in gdb when I try to print a variable? |
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| 13:11:23 | Mikachu | i think the dwarf doesn't like the arm-elf |
| 13:11:30 | g33 | does rockbox support recording on irivers? |
| 13:11:35 | hcs | markun: the tracks play as they will for the length specified in the header, unless repeat = one in which case the track is allowed to play forever |
| 13:11:38 | * | Llorean resist suggesting his THAC0 is too low. |
| 13:11:57 | JdGordon | Mikachu: its the sim build... |
| 13:11:59 | n1s | g33: yes at least on h1xx/h300 not sure about h10 |
| 13:12:10 | g33 | cool |
| 13:12:19 | markun | hcs: wouldn't plugins make more sense for such audio formats? |
| 13:12:31 | g33 | does it have level meters, so you can see that the signal isnt too low or clipping? |
| 13:13:02 | n1s | g33: take a look in the manual and all will be clear :-) |
| 13:13:05 | markun | hcs: or if it is a plugin right now please tell me to shut up :) |
| 13:13:09 | Bagder | Llorean: would you be able to provide such a doom.zip for the extras page? |
| 13:13:13 | hcs | markun: no, I'd like to have 'em in a playlist, it is in a codec |
| 13:13:16 | Bagder | (http://www.rockbox.org/extras.html) |
| 13:13:39 | markun | hcs: yes, but a playlist if neverending songs? |
| 13:14:02 | scorche | Bagder: if he cant, i can |
| 13:14:05 | g33 | im too l33t to rtfm ^^ |
| 13:14:06 | hcs | markun: typically one would not do that, repeat = 1 does that with any format anyway |
| 13:14:09 | Bagder | nice |
| 13:14:25 | markun | hcs: ah, I thought it was a repeat = 1 option in the header.. sorry |
| 13:14:43 | scorche | g33: then enjoy not receiving any help... |
| 13:14:54 | mattzz | Bagder, how about linking extras to a wiki page? |
| 13:14:57 | g33 | \ö/ |
| 13:15:26 | Bagder | mattzz: yeah, that works for me |
| 13:15:39 | Llorean | Bagder: Gimme just a moment. |
| 13:15:50 | mattzz | Bagder, if there is no need for a strict content control that should work |
| 13:16:01 | mattzz | (in terms of illegal links/uploads of roms etc.) |
| 13:16:18 | scorche | mattzz: we patrol our wiki well |
| 13:16:35 | mattzz | scorche, ;-) |
| 13:16:39 | Bagder | and if we want to control packages to remain untouched, we host them on the download server |
| 13:16:46 | Bagder | instead of wiki |
| 13:16:52 | mattzz | Than it should work. |
| 13:17:08 | mattzz | Bagder, did you get my question regarding the memory monitor/editor? |
| 13:17:33 | Bagder | mattzz: got it, and I'm sure some people can get good use out of it |
| 13:17:54 | Llorean | Bagder: Can I attempt to DCC it, or will it be a wiki page, or what? Using freedoom it's ~6.8mb |
| 13:18:20 | mattzz | Bagder, OK - just wanted to make sure, that there is no one in place yet. |
| 13:18:33 | Bagder | let's have the wording in the wiki, and I can put the doom zip on the dl server |
| 13:19:46 | Bagder | ExtraDownload or RockboxExtras or ? |
| 13:20:05 | Llorean | I like RockboxExtras |
| 13:20:20 | bluebrother | Llorean, do you think putting a "if you have never done this and are not willing to put quite an amount of time into it stop here" at the top of the SimpleGuideToCompiling / WorkingWithPatches will help for the noob-patching-problems? |
| 13:20:43 | mattzz | RockBoxExtraDownloads? |
| 13:21:24 | mattzz | or ExtraDownloadsForRockbox ... |
| 13:21:26 | Llorean | bluebrother: "Before you begin, be aware that this process can require a decent amount of time and technical knowledge and should not be attempted by a casual user, but rather by those intending to invest time in development" maybe? |
| 13:21:33 | * | mattzz has to cool down |
| 13:21:52 | * | scorche hands mattzz a block of ice to sit on |
| 13:22:12 | bluebrother | Llorean, yes. Better worded than my try ;-) |
| 13:22:13 | * | Mikachu puts an empty bucket under mattzz's chair |
| 13:22:23 | * | mattzz is making a zizzzling noise |
| 13:22:39 | bluebrother | but I was simply thinking if that would help those "how to install (*sic*) patches" questions in the forums |
| 13:22:53 | Llorean | I really don't know. |
| 13:23:05 | Mikachu | maybe people think patches do not require compiling because one install step is called "ipodpatcher" |
| 13:23:10 | Llorean | Considering how blatantly people can ignore bold red text at the start of the ipodinstallation, you might need a blink tag. |
| 13:23:23 | bluebrother | maybe they think it because MS usually ships binary patches. |
| 13:23:45 | Mikachu | you could probably form a complete windows installation from their patches :) |
| 13:23:52 | scorche | and many other companies put out binary patches as well |
| 13:24:14 | bluebrother | and those people patching software to override installation restrictions / license etc. use binary patches as well |
| 13:24:23 | Llorean | I think most people ask about how to use patches *before* they get to the simple guide to compiling page |
| 13:24:30 | bluebrother | in fact, except for the open source world patches are usually binary |
| 13:24:47 | Llorean | The most common question isn't "how do I apply patches" or "What do I do with them" so much as "Where do I download them to?" |
| 13:24:58 | bluebrother | sure, but it could help keeping them away from actually trying it after they read the first lines of the page |
| 13:25:11 | bluebrother | instead of repeatedly asking about the same stuff |
| 13:25:36 | Llorean | Yeah, I think something like that belongs there. A disclaimer of sorts |
| 13:26:23 | Bagder | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxExtras |
| 13:26:28 | Bagder | feel free to improve |
| 13:28:42 | bluebrother | hmm, the "releases" download page lists the daily builds also and is missing the old 2.4 manual. Intended? |
| 13:31:25 | bluebrother | Llorean, do you think we can keep this as a first version? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 13:31:40 | Bagder | well I don't know where any 2.4 manual is... |
| 13:31:54 | Llorean | bluebrother: We can hope that'll help |
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| 13:32:09 | bluebrother | ok. I add that line to the SimpleGuide also. |
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| 13:32:36 | JdGordon | woo :) my menu code is finally working |
| 13:32:36 | scorche | Bagder: if you need one, i have one from a long time ago...(i discovered it on my computer a couple days ago while digging through ancient folders) |
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| 13:35:34 | Bagder | ok, testing new menu on the front page |
| 13:35:58 | Bagder | the svn build page would need some description |
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| 13:37:30 | Llorean | It probably doesn't need much. |
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| 13:38:33 | Llorean | "Below the table are builds of Rockbox containing all of the changes found on the front page changelog. If builds are not currently showing, wait 5-10 minutes and then refresh the page, or download an older build from the Archived Daily Builds(link) page" |
| 13:38:34 | Mikachu | "Rockbox for Fonts" looks odd |
| 13:39:00 | Bagder | hehe, yeah |
| 13:39:01 | scorche | heh |
| 13:39:06 | Bagder | but I've ignored that |
| 13:40:12 | Redbreva | Current Build & Extras are on the same line in the side menu of the extra's page |
| 13:40:25 | Bagder | yes, I fixed that now |
| 13:40:31 | Redbreva | ok ;-) |
| 13:40:39 | Llorean | Bagder: I don't think the (link) needs to be included in the actual link. ;) |
| 13:40:50 | Bagder | haha |
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| 13:41:48 | amiconn | The 'current build' page is still missing the side menu |
| 13:42:03 | Bagder | not on the front page |
| 13:42:18 | Bagder | I've not made it "global" yet |
| 13:42:30 | Bagder | and by tradition that will take a week ;-) |
| 13:42:37 | bluebrother | hehe |
| 13:42:42 | bluebrother | traditions are nice ;-) |
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| 13:45:31 | Bagder | we can now point to an "official" rockbox wad package |
| 13:45:32 | XavierGr | Bagder: What do you think about adding a wiki search box in the front page? |
| 13:45:55 | Bagder | yeah, I've been thinking about that as well |
| 13:46:15 | Bagder | maybe later, family time coming up now... |
| 13:46:16 | scorche | I would rather have a title entry box than a search box |
| 13:46:16 | XavierGr | it would be sweet to not have to click on the wiki link each time I search for something specific :P |
| 13:46:47 | Mikachu | don't you people have bookmarks? :) |
| 13:48:11 | Llorean | I just type site:www.rockbox.org/twiki into my google search box... ;) |
| 13:48:37 | scorche | hence why i would rather have a title entry box |
| 13:48:42 | Mikachu | you can make a search box for that in firefox |
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| 13:51:07 | muesli__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nNA8t5eVM&NR just to keep u guys motivated (looks like somewhere in scandinavia huh?) |
| 13:51:17 | desowin | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199 can anyone check if my patch is ok ? I think it should be applied in svn fast and I don't know if it's all right |
| 13:51:42 | Mikachu | muesli__: haha that's the swedish version of american idol |
| 13:52:16 | muesli__ | i knew it ;-) but we have similar weirdos ;-) |
| 13:52:18 | scorche | ...and completely offtopic |
| 13:53:21 | Mikachu | desowin: you probably need some more ifdefs for calling lcd_shutdown? |
| 13:53:38 | Mikachu | or is it defined for all other targets already? |
| 13:53:50 | Mikachu | (which seems unlikely since it wasn't called before) |
| 13:53:56 | desowin | are there coding guidelines ? |
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| 13:59:50 | scorche | desowin: yes...see the DOCS folder |
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| 14:10:51 | mattzz | how can I get size information about the currently used font in a plugin? |
| 14:11:22 | mattzz | font_get and font_getstringsize are working on a given font |
| 14:11:54 | Mikachu | use them on FONT_USERFONT or something like that |
| 14:13:50 | mattzz | Mikachu, how do I find out about the currently used font? |
| 14:14:06 | Mikachu | that's what i just said |
| 14:14:15 | Mikachu | i just don't know the exact name to use |
| 14:14:49 | mattzz | Mikachu, you mean there is already something like FONT_USERFONT available? |
| 14:14:54 | Mikachu | yes |
| 14:15:08 | mattzz | Mikachu, ah, ok. will grep font.h ;-) |
| 14:15:14 | XavierGr | http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110083483658&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting |
| 14:15:20 | XavierGr | oops this link came too big |
| 14:15:45 | XavierGr | now this is what I call a big collection |
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| 14:16:43 | tucoz | Bagder: the 2.4 is still available from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.pdf |
| 14:17:06 | tucoz | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.txt |
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| 14:17:14 | mattzz | Mikachu, did you mean FONT_UI? |
| 14:17:21 | Mikachu | that sounds likely |
| 14:17:35 | tucoz | and http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/pub/Main/RockboxManual/rockbox-manual-2.4.zip for the open office files. |
| 14:17:48 | mattzz | Mikachu, dammit, I thought that was the default rockbox font... |
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| 14:18:04 | tucoz | (the links are hidden in the wiki history for RockboxManual) |
| 14:18:05 | Mikachu | mattzz: that is probably FONT_FIXED or SYS |
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| 14:18:21 | amiconn | mattzz: font_getstringsize() is mainly an internal function, because the current font might be different on main & remote |
| 14:18:22 | mattzz | Mikachu, you are right. FONT_UI does the trick. Thanks! |
| 14:18:43 | amiconn | You are supposed to use lcd_getstringsize() and lcd_remote_getstringsize(), respectively |
| 14:18:47 | Mikachu | heh, it was SYSFIXED |
| 14:19:03 | webguest63 | can someone please help me put rockbox on my 2nd gen nano? |
| 14:19:16 | Mikachu | webguest63: no |
| 14:19:23 | dan_a | webguest63: No - the 2nd gen nano isn't supported yet |
| 14:19:33 | webguest63 | oh i see.. thanks |
| 14:19:43 | amiconn | Those 2 don't have a font argument, but work on whatever is currently selected for this lcd |
| 14:20:18 | mattzz | amiconn, I want to find out about how many rows of text can be displayed. I will use lcd_getstringsize() than. |
| 14:20:44 | webguest63 | what about ipodlinux? can the 2nd gen nano run it? |
| 14:20:55 | scorche | no |
| 14:21:18 | webguest63 | oh crap.. thanks anyway |
| 14:21:48 | desowin | if Apple would be more developer friendly on iPods .... |
| 14:21:51 | tucoz | webguest63: the hardware in the 2nd gen nano is completely different than the 1st gen |
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| 14:22:51 | hcs | should I be able to determine if I'm not building for a gigabeat by doing #ifndef TOSHIBA_GIGABEAT_F ? |
| 14:22:54 | webguest63 | i see... |
| 14:24:40 | n1s | hcs: yes that should work |
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| 14:27:17 | amiconn | hcs: Checking for specific models should be kept to an absolute minimum. Check for features instead, wherever possible |
| 14:27:41 | hcs | amiconn: ok, where's the "beefy processor" feature defined? |
| 14:28:03 | XavierGr | lol |
| 14:28:12 | webguest63 | where can i get half life and CS for the ipod running rockbox or ipl? are they just skins for idoom? |
| 14:28:18 | Mikachu | you can check for cpu frequency |
| 14:28:32 | hcs | Mikachu: cpu frequency on the gigabeat is defined at 16MHz |
| 14:28:48 | Mikachu | that's not my fault :P |
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| 14:29:29 | amiconn | It's not a fault, it's correct for targets which do scaling, provided this is the lowest freq possible in rockbox |
| 14:29:52 | amiconn | Check CPUFREQ_MAX instead |
| 14:30:13 | scorche | webguest63: they are add-ons, and you will find them yourself |
| 14:30:34 | webguest63 | scorche: where? |
| 14:30:38 | scorche | google |
| 14:31:19 | webguest63 | are they generic add ons for all doom ports? |
| 14:31:48 | scorche | it depends what doom you are running |
| 14:32:03 | scorche | if that version supports add-ons |
| 14:32:40 | webguest63 | ok ill go check google. thanks |
| 14:36:07 | desowin | is there any better way to #ifdef all iPods than #if defined(IPOD_3G) || defined(IPOD_4G) || defined(IPOD_MINI2G) || .... ? |
| 14:36:46 | XavierGr | only ipods or portaplayer based targets? |
| 14:36:52 | Mikachu | you want to use the same ifdef as the one that determines if your lcd function gets included |
| 14:37:13 | n1s | #idef IPOD_ARCH maybe... |
| 14:37:19 | n1s | #ifdef even |
| 14:41:02 | desowin | or better it would be to ifdef all targets that have Renesas HD66753 Graphics LCD Controller/Driver ? |
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| 14:47:12 | g33 | hm the clipping light when recording doesnt work? |
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| 15:01:44 | midkay | hrm.. quick coding question. |
| 15:02:21 | midkay | if i have an int year = 2007.. any quick way to split that up into seperate ints? i can get the "2" by year/1000 and the "7" by year%10.. what about the zeros? |
| 15:03:27 | midkay | ah. think i got it. |
| 15:03:33 | Mikachu | + and - |
| 15:03:42 | midkay | hm? |
| 15:03:53 | Mikachu | int thousand = 2007/1000 |
| 15:04:08 | Mikachu | int hundred = (2007-thousand*1000) / 100 |
| 15:04:24 | Mikachu | (not guaranteeing it's the best way) |
| 15:04:42 | midkay | hrm. |
| 15:04:47 | midkay | testing this method.. |
| 15:06:34 | midkay | yeah, it works.. |
| 15:06:57 | midkay | year%1000 = thousands.. |
| 15:07:02 | midkay | wait. |
| 15:07:11 | midkay | year/1000 = thousands. :) |
| 15:07:13 | midkay | year%1000/100 = hundreds.. |
| 15:07:17 | midkay | year%100/10 = tens.. |
| 15:07:22 | midkay | year%10 = ones. |
| 15:07:28 | amiconn | ugh, lots of unnecessary divisions |
| 15:07:49 | Mikachu | it's not exactly something in an inner loop |
| 15:08:01 | * | midkay reads up, wondering where amiconn proposed his bette solution.. |
| 15:08:02 | amiconn | Nah, not lots, bu tsome extra ones |
| 15:08:18 | amiconn | Mikachu's method needs 4 divisions, yours needs 6 |
| 15:09:23 | midkay | not sure i even get his... |
| 15:09:36 | amiconn | year/1000 <= #1 |
| 15:09:46 | amiconn | year%1000/100 <= #2 and #3 |
| 15:09:54 | midkay | (2007-thousand*1000) / 100 -> (2007 - 2*1000) / 100 -> (2007 - 2000) / 100 -> 7 / 100? |
| 15:10:02 | amiconn | year%100/10 <= #4 and #5 |
| 15:10:07 | idnar | I think divmod might be the best way to go |
| 15:10:19 | amiconn | year%10 <= #6 |
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| 15:10:51 | idnar | http://rafb.net/p/zzXEmW34.html (Python code, but it shouldn't be hard to port it to any other language) |
| 15:11:27 | Mikachu | would be nice if you could just do year & 9000 :) |
| 15:11:35 | midkay | mm.. |
| 15:12:18 | midkay | i think i'd prefer a bit less efficiency for something shorter and much more understandable (to me..) |
| 15:12:21 | amiconn | If you just need base 10 and it's a long number, you could (mis-)use snprintf |
| 15:13:52 | amiconn | char buf[8]; snprintf(buf, sizeof buf, "%07d", year); |
| 15:14:23 | midkay | i don't see what that will do.. |
| 15:14:50 | amiconn | Then you can read out: ones=buf[6]-'0'; tens = buf[5]-'0'; hundreds = buf[4]-'0'; thousands = buf[3]-'0'; |
| 15:15:03 | amiconn | It's not very elegant, but it should work |
| 15:15:33 | * | midkay stares |
| 15:15:41 | mattzz | amiconn, nice one ;-) |
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| 15:16:28 | midkay | i'll stick with (in comparison) simpler, inline calculations.. thanks, though. |
| 15:16:58 | amiconn | In practise I would use Mikachu's method |
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| 15:18:53 | Mikachu | why are we extracting these digits in the first place? |
| 15:20:40 | mattzz | here is another one: I want to toggle a value by pressing a button a long time (BUTTON_SELECT | BUTTON_REPEAT). If the value has toggled I do not want further toggling. |
| 15:21:12 | mattzz | What is the best way to do that? |
| 15:22:33 | amiconn | Use a _PRE |
| 15:22:41 | Mikachu | check if the previous button press was BUTTON_SELECT |
| 15:23:29 | mattzz | Thanks. |
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| 15:27:07 | mattzz | what works, works ;-) |
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| 15:40:16 | webguest15 | Hi there |
| 15:40:38 | webguest15 | is there anyone here =D |
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| 15:41:22 | dan_a | Hi webguest15 - most people here stay quiet until they see something that they want to respond to |
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| 15:42:46 | webguest33 | Allright.. ( still same guest ) |
| 15:43:13 | webguest33 | I have some questions about rockbox.. I searched the entire internet, forums etc but i can't find it.. |
| 15:43:23 | webguest33 | Could you help me ? |
| 15:43:43 | dan_a | Ask the questions - if I can't help you, maybe someone who can will answer |
| 15:43:43 | mattzz | go ahead |
| 15:43:54 | webguest33 | thanks .. |
| 15:44:20 | webguest33 | I got an ipod 5G ( video ) .. and installed with Ipod linux , Rockbox and the normal Apple OS |
| 15:44:48 | webguest33 | Its just when I turn on my ipod, automaticly rockbox opens.. |
| 15:45:31 | dan_a | webguest33: The rockbox bootloader goes into rockbox unless you are telling it not to. |
| 15:45:34 | webguest33 | First when i used the center button and the menu button, my ipodloader opened.. Do you know how to get rockbox into the loader |
| 15:46:12 | webguest33 | How can I set the apple OS to the normal loader, like the "first"loader.. |
| 15:47:39 | webguest33 | The only way to choose between rockbox, ipodlinux, and apple os for me is center −−> menu ... and then quick the menu button, thats when I come into the ipodloader.. When I dont do anything automatic rockbox opens. How do I change it ?? |
| 15:48:42 | dan_a | webguest33: Using the Rockbox bootloader, you can't. You might be better off with Loader2 from ipodlinux (which gives you a configurable menu) - but we can't help you with that |
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| 15:50:05 | webguest33 | I thought I installed the Loader2 from ipodlinux.. I allready "insert"the rockbox into the loader.. But i want the loader to appear when i turn on my ipod.. Now automatic my rockbox opens.. You can't help me with this either? |
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| 15:51:03 | dan_a | It sounds like the Rockbox bootloader has been installed after loader2 - install loader2 again and you should be fine :D |
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| 15:51:45 | desowin | any iPod user can check if http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199 works ? |
| 15:52:04 | webguest33 | Allrighty, So its like installing ipod linux again with bootloader 2 ? |
| 15:53:00 | dan_a | webguest33: Yes, but you've already got the rest of iPodLinux on there, so you only need to put Loader2 on there. |
| 15:53:25 | mattzz | amiconn, maybe you can help me once more: What is the preferred way of printing text inversed mode? |
| 15:53:45 | webguest33 | yeah I see the wikipod site, but I think its way to difficult! I allready tried that once... |
| 15:54:17 | webguest33 | Is this right: I just dropped the .rockbox and the rockbox.ipod files on ma ipod dik |
| 15:54:49 | n1s | webguest33: yes if you already had loader2 that should be enough |
| 15:55:15 | n1s | sp it seems your problem is with the ipodloader... |
| 15:55:17 | n1s | so |
| 15:55:50 | desowin | it's ifdefed but when tried to compile rockbox for iRiver H10, it poped up "powermgmt.c:(.text.shutdown_hw+0x128): undefined reference to `lcd_shutdown'" :/ |
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| 16:00:23 | webguest33 | hmmm |
| 16:00:30 | webguest33 | there is one way to get it work |
| 16:00:40 | Mikachu | there are many ways |
| 16:00:48 | webguest33 | center and menu.. and then again menu.. then the ipodloader appears.. |
| 16:00:55 | webguest33 | But its just not the right one.. |
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| 16:01:05 | webguest33 | but anyway thanks for your help.. =D |
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| 16:01:13 | webguest33 | I'm gonna try some.. |
| 16:01:17 | webguest33 | Bye |
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| 16:01:35 | nom2 | hello |
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| 16:39:04 | ppeom | hi all |
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| 16:52:33 | Mikachu | hcs: i can confirm ipods are too slow for gaussian interp :) |
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| 17:25:08 | Soap | ok, I feel shamed for asking this, as I've done it before...but I'm getting a "-bash: rockboxdev.sh: command not found" when trying to run rockboxdev.sh from inside the tools folder. I used chmod to allow the file to execute...now I'm at a loss. |
| 17:26:48 | perplexity | is . in your path? tried ./rockboxdev.sh ? |
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| 17:27:02 | Soap | oh go |
| 17:27:03 | Soap | god |
| 17:27:22 | Soap | yea, that was it. :( |
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| 17:37:26 | markun | hi mirak |
| 17:37:36 | markun | planning to work on video again? |
| 17:38:24 | mirak | markun: hi, how are you ? |
| 17:38:47 | markun | fine, thanks :) |
| 17:41:34 | mirak | hum it's strange it's like charging from usb doesn't work anymore on the H300 ... |
| 17:41:49 | mirak | on rockbox or iriver firmware |
| 17:42:38 | markun | sounds like a HW problem then |
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| 17:43:39 | fasmaie | markun: The cpu scaling improved my battery time by about 45 mins. Repeated twice |
| 17:44:00 | fasmaie | markun: on the gigabeat |
| 17:44:25 | markun | fasmaie: yes, I remember |
| 17:45:20 | fasmaie | markun: Sorry, I saw you mention perldiver's lower times to someone else, I just wanted to make sure he understood that the effect of CPU scaling is not fully documented yet |
| 17:45:30 | fasmaie | :) |
| 17:45:45 | fasmaie | On the gigabeat, at least |
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| 17:49:09 | mattzz | can somebody help me with the lcd_puts() function? |
| 17:49:42 | mattzz | I dont want the parts right of the given position being erased |
| 17:50:18 | mirak | markun: it seems to work now, strange ... |
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| 17:50:32 | markun | mirak: so, what about video? |
| 17:51:07 | mirak | it's all about time |
| 17:51:46 | mirak | well what I started was trying to port ffmpeg mpeg2 |
| 17:52:17 | mirak | because it seemed easier to optimise and understand than libmpeg2 which is unmaintened |
| 17:52:59 | toffe | Hello |
| 17:54:21 | markun | mirak: and xvid |
| 17:54:52 | mirak | nobody looked at this patch |
| 17:55:20 | mirak | it was ugly anyway |
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| 17:58:46 | mirak | markun: xvid I don't know |
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| 18:00:37 | toffe | mirak : talk with dune2 and twins when they are connected, they seems interested on working on the mpegplayer |
| 18:01:28 | dune2 | hey all !! |
| 18:01:34 | dune2 | hey mirak :) |
| 18:03:19 | dune2 | mirak, we are looking in main loop of mpegplayer with twins, to insert buffer[0] & buffer[1], to preload next chunck of data while playing previous one .... |
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| 18:04:52 | dune2 | midkay: but as I begin to do that ... I had mistake in mpeg2_decode and mad_decode, as they works with pointer independant of "buffer" ... and cannot be updated with indexed buffer |
| 18:05:01 | mirak | dune2: sorry you should ask to linuxstb__ |
| 18:05:11 | dune2 | ooops sorry midkay ... it was for mirak :) |
| 18:05:22 | dune2 | mirak: ok :) |
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| 18:05:41 | mirak | I only worked on the idct part in asm |
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| 18:06:19 | dune2 | ok |
| 18:06:22 | finny | how to put rock on sansa e250 i need help |
| 18:06:32 | finny | rockbox |
| 18:06:54 | barrywardell | have you followed http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Install |
| 18:07:53 | finny | thanks |
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| 18:27:09 | Viele-baeren | hello |
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| 18:28:50 | webguest50 | hea.. could I ask something?? |
| 18:29:07 | webguest50 | Does one of you guys know how to get Apple Os work on ma ipod.. |
| 18:29:29 | webguest50 | I got a dual boot with rockbox ipodlinux and apple os .. but os doesnt work anymore.. Any suggestions? |
| 18:32:17 | bluebrother | what bootloader are you using? |
| 18:32:37 | bluebrother | I think there was an issue some time ago, but only for some ipod series. |
| 18:32:50 | bluebrother | already tried installing the latest Rockbox bootloader? |
| 18:33:50 | webguest58 | no boot loader |
| 18:34:03 | webguest58 | ? |
| 18:34:27 | webguest58 | need help |
| 18:34:29 | webguest50 | eha am sorry |
| 18:34:33 | webguest50 | thought no-one was there |
| 18:34:40 | webguest50 | Ehh Am using the bootloader 2 |
| 18:34:51 | webguest50 | and got ipod linux and rockbox installed ( dual boot ) |
| 18:35:00 | webguest58 | how to get sansa on rockbox |
| 18:35:33 | Soap | root |
| 18:35:44 | Soap | oops |
| 18:35:45 | webguest50 | How do I replace/reinstall my ipod apple os .. ? |
| 18:36:37 | barrywardell | webguest58: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Install |
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| 18:43:59 | webguest50 | Please.. someone/ |
| 18:44:20 | bluebrother | webguest50, there is no bootloader2. There is loader2 from the IPL people |
| 18:44:41 | bluebrother | if there are problems with that we can't help you here. I suggest trying the latest Rockbox bootloader |
| 18:45:23 | webguest58 | need help installing rockbox on sansa e250 |
| 18:45:54 | barrywardell | webguest58: i directed you to our installation guide. does that not work for you? |
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| 18:46:34 | webguest50 | Allright I mean loader 2... But its the apple OS what does not work. =/ |
| 18:47:45 | barrywardell | webguest50: loader2 is made by ipodlinux people, not rockbox. i recommend you ask in #ipodlinux about it |
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| 18:48:05 | bluebrother | afk |
| 18:49:02 | webguest58 | can any one make a video on youtube how to do this plz |
| 18:49:31 | | Part Viele-baeren ("Ich verlasse euch nun leider, bis dann!") |
| 18:50:43 | n1s | webguest58: The sansa port is not intended for general use yet (it doesn't have audio!) but is more for developers right now, if following the insatt instructions is too difficult I recomend you to wait until it matures a bit more... |
| 18:51:10 | n1s | - insatt |
| 18:51:13 | webguest50 | mm allright |
| 18:51:15 | webguest50 | thanks anyway |
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| 18:53:43 | spug | oops, dropped my H300 in the floor :( |
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| 18:53:56 | spug | i need a cradle :( does the H340 cradle/dock work for the H320? |
| 18:55:09 | n1s | spug: I don't think it fits as well, but i guess it should work... |
| 18:55:44 | spug | hmm, okay |
| 18:55:52 | spug | thanks |
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| 19:04:21 | m6arate | on maxween's applied patches page, http://members.a1.net/maxwen/rockbox/patched-20070112-1050.htm, it says bmpresize requires version 1.28 of bmp.c. What does this mean and how can I get it? I am trying to make a custom build. |
| 19:07:10 | n1s | it's an old revision of bmp.c look in the cahangelog for one of amiconns changes that added support for several formats among other things |
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| 19:08:25 | w1ll14m | WTF |
| 19:08:35 | HardDisk_WP | o_O |
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| 19:09:32 | w1ll14m | WTF it'ds a noob |
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| 19:09:48 | Wiwie | ban him pls |
| 19:09:49 | w1ll14m | time for a kick ... it's a web irc noob |
| 19:09:55 | mattzz | script kiddie alert?! |
| 19:10:01 | w1ll14m | fgsf is i=54381711@gateway/web/cgi-irc/irc.jpgclan.com/x-5bb5bbdec8e97c63 * [54381711] CGI:IRC user on http://irc.jpgclan.com/ |
| 19:10:03 | Mikachu | Name: dslb-084-056-023-017.pools.arcor-ip.net |
| 19:10:03 | Mikachu | Address: 84.56.23.17 |
| 19:10:28 | w1ll14m | damn... there goes the log 2 MB's up |
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| 19:10:35 | Mikachu | Bagder, anyone? |
| 19:10:44 | HardDisk_WP | he's quitted... |
| 19:10:47 | Mikachu | ah |
| 19:10:48 | Mikachu | i ignored |
| 19:10:49 | w1ll14m | i see.... |
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| 19:11:11 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, how did you get the IP? |
| 19:11:17 | Mikachu | top secret |
| 19:11:30 | Mikachu | function hexip() { a=$(for a (`echo $1 | sed -r 's/(..)(..)(..)(..)/\1 \2 \3 \4/'`) {hextodec $a}|xargs|sed s/\ /./g); hostx $a } |
| 19:11:34 | Mikachu | % hexip 54381711 |
| 19:11:49 | HardDisk_WP | that bash? |
| 19:11:54 | Mikachu | zsh |
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| 19:12:22 | Mikachu | i figured he might get scared if i pasted his ip :) |
| 19:12:22 | goffa | hmm... anyone know what happened to #ifdef HAVE_TC_RAMCACHE? |
| 19:12:30 | goffa | seems to have been removed from settings.c |
| 19:12:34 | w1ll14m | mikachu:whahhaah |
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| 19:12:46 | Kitt0s | lol |
| 19:12:52 | m6arate | haha |
| 19:12:52 | barrywardell | Arathis: do you have a H10 5GB? |
| 19:12:57 | goffa | and that in turn broke a patch that i use |
| 19:12:59 | w1ll14m | mikachu:i would :) maybe this channel is full of hackers.. he'll be dead |
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| 19:13:34 | Mikachu | getting yours is easier, just /whois ;) |
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| 19:13:45 | Arathis | barrywardell: no. a 20gb |
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| 19:14:13 | caitsith_2 | Could I get write permission to my wiki account DamienGood. I intend to contribute battery life benchmarks. |
| 19:14:15 | w1ll14m | mikachu: i know, but i haven't done anything to let you guys get my ip ;) |
| 19:14:29 | w1ll14m | and if so, ll just replace my nic in my gateway and i have a new ip :) |
| 19:14:36 | barrywardell | Arathis: ah, ok. i wanted someone to test midgey's rockboy patch on a 5gb to see if they get the same bug i do |
| 19:14:42 | w1ll14m | just sucks, i have to change a bunch of DNS names |
| 19:14:53 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, where is hextodec? |
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| 19:14:59 | midgey | barrywardell: we're searching for an x5 tester as well |
| 19:15:05 | Arathis | barrywardell: what bug do you get? |
| 19:15:06 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, doesnt seem to be in a debian pkg? |
| 19:15:11 | Mikachu | HardDisk_WP: it's a shell function i just pasted |
| 19:15:14 | barrywardell | midgey: Moos tested for me |
| 19:15:20 | barrywardell | he couldn't reproduce it |
| 19:15:21 | Mikachu | anyway you can calculate it by hand too if you want |
| 19:15:23 | midgey | oh? |
| 19:15:27 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, you only pasted hexip() |
| 19:15:35 | Mikachu | HardDisk_WP: oh okay |
| 19:15:52 | w1ll14m | the hexip looks intresting.... |
| 19:15:56 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, same for hostx |
| 19:15:58 | Mikachu | function anytoany () { echo $(( [#$3] $2#$1 )) ;:|sed 's/.*#//' } |
| 19:16:01 | Mikachu | function dectohex () { anytoany $1 10 16 } |
| 19:16:05 | midgey | seems strange that the issue is only occurring on the h10 |
| 19:16:09 | Mikachu | hostx is just a command, you can use host instead |
| 19:16:14 | Mikachu | but i didn't intend to be this much off topic |
| 19:16:40 | bluebrother | caitsith_2, done. |
| 19:16:52 | barrywardell | midgey: yes, strange indeed. would be nice to see if it affects other h10 models too |
| 19:17:51 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, still dont work, you pasted dectohex instead...and using host instead hostx didnt work |
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| 19:18:09 | mattzz | Sansa: Data abort at 01F80248 ?! |
| 19:18:20 | Mikachu | HardDisk_WP use your imagination :) |
| 19:18:47 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, i am no 13337 scr1pt0r :D |
| 19:18:59 | barrywardell | mattzz: what were you doing at the time? |
| 19:19:13 | Mikachu | if dectohex is 10 16, what do you think hextodec is? |
| 19:19:18 | mattzz | barrywardell, playing with a memory monitor plugin I am currently writing. |
| 19:19:28 | | Quit Soap (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
| 19:19:36 | Mikachu | and you can echo $a instead, that'll just give you the ip, no hostname |
| 19:19:44 | mattzz | barrywardell, do you know some interesting memory areas to look at (cpu_config, timer, etc.)? |
| 19:19:56 | mattzz | barrywardell, happened while paging around |
| 19:20:06 | w1ll14m | mikachu, realy i don't understand :) |
| 19:20:39 | barrywardell | mattzz: do you mean addresses of hardware components? firmware/export/pp5020.h is a start |
| 19:20:58 | barrywardell | and http://ipodlinux.org/PP5020 |
| 19:21:35 | mattzz | barrywardell, that was exactly what I was looking for - thanks |
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| 19:23:30 | HardDisk_WP | Mikachu, works. 1337! |
| 19:24:10 | mattzz | barrywardell, yay, it works! I can see the GPIO space in real time ;-) |
| 19:24:27 | barrywardell | mattzz: have you s |
| 19:24:36 | barrywardell | seen the i/o ports debug screen? |
| 19:25:07 | Mikachu | HardDisk_WP: a simpler version is |
| 19:25:17 | Mikachu | ping `hextodec thenumber` |
| 19:25:24 | Mikachu | but i consider that cheating |
| 19:25:28 | mattzz | barrywardell, sure. I was just looking for some interesting memory space to look at. |
| 19:26:48 | * | mattzz can also watch timer registers online now ;-) |
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| 19:31:23 | w1ll14m | mikachu: how do you call a function in zsh ? |
| 19:31:47 | Mikachu | just type the name of it |
| 19:32:27 | w1ll14m | ok |
| 19:32:59 | barrywardell | mattzz: that could be a useful plugin. is there a patch somewhere? |
| 19:34:02 | mattzz | barrywardell, not yet, I am still testing. I can send a pre-release if you want. |
| 19:34:43 | barrywardell | i'll wait till it's ready |
| 19:34:53 | mattzz | good choice ;-) |
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| 19:40:37 | mattzz | is the usage of BUTTON_REC in plugin allowed? |
| 19:40:59 | mattzz | plural, plugins |
| 19:41:27 | mattzz | In terms of coding style / policies... |
| 19:41:33 | w1ll14m | Mikachu: can't figure out howto get hextodec to work.. maybe just to noobish ;) |
| 19:41:54 | w1ll14m | Ok, diner is ready so ll see you later guys :) |
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| 19:42:48 | n1s | mattzz: It's used in lot's of plugins. |
| 19:43:11 | mattzz | OK, just wanted to be sure. |
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| 19:44:58 | amiconn | mattzz: (in case you didn't find out yourself): In order to print inverted text, set the drawmode to include DRMODE_INVERSEVID beforehands |
| 19:46:16 | mattzz | amiconn, thanks for the reply. I used |
| 19:46:17 | bluebrother | what's the different thing on the "pure" model of the h10? |
| 19:46:19 | mattzz | rb->lcd_set_drawmode(DRMODE_COMPLEMENT); |
| 19:46:19 | mattzz | rb->lcd_fillrect(sel_col*fw*2, sel_row*fh+fh-1, fw*2, 1); |
| 19:46:29 | barrywardell | bluebrother: no fm radio |
| 19:46:45 | mattzz | amiconn, to draw a inverted rect. |
| 19:46:47 | bluebrother | ah. Don't need that anyway. |
| 19:47:03 | bluebrother | I'm watching one at ebay, but surprisingly there are no other bidders ... |
| 19:47:51 | amiconn | mattzz: Just lcd_set_drawmode(DRMODE_SOLID|DRMODE_INVERSEVID); and then print your text |
| 19:48:09 | amiconn | No need to complement rectangles |
| 19:48:43 | mattzz | amiconn, I see. |
| 19:49:32 | mattzz | amiconn, do you have any idea what happened to the recorder builds? why has the firmware grown so much? |
| 19:49:32 | amiconn | If you use DRMODE_COMPLEMENT the way you do, it will look different from using DRMODE_INVERSEVID unless your foreground and background colours are exact complements |
| 19:50:20 | amiconn | Featuritis, and many devs not caring about binary size :( |
| 19:51:10 | amiconn | All recorders are now too big for rombox (for quite a while, even though the 'red' for the v1 started just a few days ago) |
| 19:51:44 | amiconn | The builds don't turn red immediately when they become too big, this is a linker quirk |
| 19:52:32 | mattzz | I think rombox has been too big for quite some time for the recorders. But this keeps me from compiling regular rockbox firmware images |
| 19:52:37 | amiconn | The linker doesn't complain as long as the start of a section still fits into the memory area, even though the end might already be past the end |
| 19:53:09 | amiconn | mattzz: It doesn't. That's the reason why archos rombox is linked at the end of the build process |
| 19:53:44 | amiconn | An error there leaves you with ordinary rockbox and all plugins already built |
| 19:54:00 | mattzz | ajbrec.ajz - right, there it is.... |
| 19:54:04 | amiconn | I have and use a recorder myself |
| 19:54:21 | bluebrother | wasn't the menu rework supposed to cut the binary size? |
| 19:54:38 | amiconn | bluebrother: Yes. Menu rework isn't in yet |
| 19:55:03 | bluebrother | so it's like text configuration increased the size, menu rework will decrease it again? |
| 19:55:37 | amiconn | Text configuraton decreased binary size a little, but one preparation for the settings rework increased it |
| 19:56:10 | bluebrother | ah. Haven't followed the exact differenct between text configuration and menu rework recently |
| 19:56:48 | amiconn | 26 Jan 05:45Jonathan Gordon "Add 4 settings which were somehow missed during the conversion to config.cfg. Adds the LANG_ id for each setting to get them ready for the upcoming menu changes" |
| 19:57:11 | amiconn | The added LANG_IDs triggered the red for recorders |
| 19:58:46 | Mikachu | i saw some places in the code that do things like |
| 19:58:56 | Mikachu | static const char[] no = "no"; |
| 19:58:59 | | Quit pyrokenx () |
| 19:59:08 | Mikachu | and then no is used in the code, but using "no" and no variable takes up less space |
| 19:59:24 | Mikachu | at least when i made a small test program natively |
| 19:59:44 | amiconn | It depends on target, gcc version and optimisation level |
| 20:00 |
| 20:00:08 | amiconn | If you need "no" more than once, gcc includes it multiple times when not optimising |
| 20:00:28 | Mikachu | but rockbox always uses at least -O1 doesn't it? |
| 20:00:34 | amiconn | It does |
| 20:01:26 | amiconn | The static variable just helps gcc in case it misses the string identities |
| 20:01:42 | amiconn | Don't conclude from building for arch. X to arch. Y |
| 20:01:51 | amiconn | Results can be wildly different |
| 20:02:17 | * | amiconn still doesn't like that sh-elf-gcc aligns strings to 32 bit boundaries |
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| 20:02:55 | amiconn | I found no switch to turn this off... |
| 20:03:12 | webguest72 | Hey all |
| 20:03:58 | webguest72 | I was wondering if it's possible to sync my iPod with rockbox to a new computer without wiping it out |
| 20:04:07 | webguest72 | or at least having to reinstall rockbox |
| 20:04:33 | webguest72 | I mean, sync using iTunes |
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| 20:05:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 20:07:24 | bluebrother | I don't know how itunes will behave, but as long as you don't update the firmware there shouldn't be a problem |
| 20:07:41 | bluebrother | if itunes decides to update the firmware you'll need to reinstall the bootloader |
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| 20:10:15 | Hotfusion | im starting to like emusic |
| 20:10:44 | webguest72 | Okay |
| 20:11:01 | webguest72 | So as long as I don't update the firmware |
| 20:11:26 | markun | Hotfusion: what is it? |
| 20:12:38 | webguest72 | So is it safe then to copy the entire contents of the iPod to a folder on my Hard drive, sync it, then move all of it back? |
| 20:12:52 | * | amiconn found a bug in the new config writer |
| 20:13:29 | amiconn | The 'id3 tag priority' setting doesn't use the correct option srings, making old config files incompatible |
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| 20:15:11 | n1s | Is anyone against removing the stuff in powermgmt.c that changes backlight and spindown times when the battery level is low? |
| 20:18:14 | n1s | afk for a while but will read replies later ;-) |
| 20:20:06 | bluebrother | webguest72, I guess so unless itunes does something with your database file |
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| 20:52:03 | TrueJournals | Hey |
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| 20:57:05 | mattzz | http://www.rockbox.org/docs/contributing.html is a dead link on |
| 20:57:07 | mattzz | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches#Submitting_A_Patch |
| 20:57:19 | mattzz | Where should it point to? |
| 21:00 |
| 21:00:47 | linuxstb | Maybe the docs/CONTRIBUTING page in SVN - http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/docs/CONTRIBUTING |
| 21:02:36 | mattzz | OK, thanks. Page is updated |
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| 21:08:48 | TrueJournals | I have a really strange problem... I just built rockbox and the version number is coming out 20r12131M-070128... this doesn't seem like a right version number... plus, if I try to boot, it shows the debug text and just resets |
| 21:09:02 | TrueJournals | any ideas? |
| 21:09:16 | Mikachu | the 20 is strange |
| 21:09:49 | barrywardell | what debug text does it show? |
| 21:10:08 | TrueJournals | It's hard to tell... it goes too fast... there's not a way to pause it is there? :-p |
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| 21:11:12 | barrywardell | try getting the latest svn. i just added a 5 second pause |
| 21:11:46 | dionoea | wow, the AMS thing is awesome :) Are they paying the plane tickets too ? :p |
| 21:12:13 | TrueJournals | Rockbox boot loader |
| 21:12:13 | TrueJournals | Version: 20r12131M-070128 |
| 21:12:13 | TrueJournals | iriver H10 20GB |
| 21:12:13 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK TrueJournals |
| 21:12:13 | TrueJournals | HTC42...(more numbers) |
| 21:12:13 | TrueJournals | Partition 0: 0x0C 19077 MB |
| 21:12:14 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:12:14 | TrueJournals | Loading Rockbox... |
| 21:12:16 | TrueJournals | Length: 734B4 |
| 21:12:18 | TrueJournals | (some more stuff... can't tell past there) |
| 21:12:33 | TrueJournals | Ah! It just decided to boot after resetting about 20 times |
| 21:13:15 | dan_a | Partition type 0x0C doesn't look right |
| 21:13:54 | linuxstb__ | barrywardell: Did you test those sleep() functions? I didn't think the portalplayer bootloaders had sleep() implemented. |
| 21:14:05 | amiconn | dan_a: Uh, why? |
| 21:14:26 | amiconn | Partition type 0x0c is FAT32 LBA, that sounds correct |
| 21:14:27 | dan_a | Oh, no, 0x0C is LBA mapped FAT32. I'd just not seen it before |
| 21:14:59 | barrywardell | linuxstb__: it works on my sansa. i'll test on my h10 now... |
| 21:16:50 | TrueJournals | I'll try updating my build with the latest SVN |
| 21:20:17 | TrueJournals | can I update SVN? just do svn update? |
| 21:21:02 | barrywardell | linuxstb__: you're right. sleep just freezes on my H10 |
| 21:21:43 | linuxstb__ | You can just replace them by calls to udelay(5000000). |
| 21:22:02 | linuxstb__ | Does the Sansa bootloader enable interrupts? |
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| 21:22:16 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
| 21:22:39 | barrywardell | my plan exactly. |
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| 21:24:58 | Arathis | barrywardell: do I need a new bootloader now? |
| 21:25:16 | barrywardell | no, you don't need one |
| 21:25:29 | barrywardell | the changes are quite small - mostly just better error messages |
| 21:26:24 | mattzz | barrywardell, I just committed my memory monitor/editor patch to fs. |
| 21:26:37 | barrywardell | mattzz: great. i'll take a look at it |
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| 21:43:05 | barrywardell | linuxstb__: i changed it to udelay. hopefully the bootloader behaviour is to your liking, ie. not failsafeing to jumping to apple-os at the start of dram |
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| 21:45:31 | n1s | wow, we're now only two tasks (read useless feature requests :-P) from 1k in FS |
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| 21:46:59 | linuxstb | barrywardell: It looks good to me. |
| 21:47:08 | barrywardell | cool. i'm off then |
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| 21:47:40 | Soap | what are the system preresiquites for rockboxdev.sh? I just saw the error "*** The command 'cc -o confters -g conftest.c' failed. *** You must set the enviromental variable CC to a working compiler. |
| 21:48:30 | dionoea | don't you have gcc installed ? |
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| 21:49:50 | Soap | Didn't realize I needed to, the wiki page for building the cross compilers didn't say I needed to. |
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| 21:50:10 | dionoea | well you need something to build them with :) |
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| 21:50:34 | Soap | hey! for all I knew the script did it ALL ;) |
| 21:50:54 | linuxstb | What OS are you running rockboxdev.sh in? |
| 21:50:57 | Soap | or it would fail gracefully at the start with a "You idiot! You have no gcc!" |
| 21:51:04 | Soap | linuxstb: linux. |
| 21:51:12 | linuxstb | Which flavour? |
| 21:51:20 | Soap | latest debian |
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| 21:51:58 | linuxstb | Try "apt-get install build-essential" |
| 21:52:16 | Soap | I just did apt-get install gcc - was that a mistake? |
| 21:52:22 | dionoea | no |
| 21:52:26 | linuxstb | No, but you may need more than just gcc. |
| 21:52:46 | Soap | ok, thank you. I feel like such a fool. |
| 21:53:37 | dionoea | :) |
| 21:55:17 | rp- | i have a arm asm question, http://rafb.net/p/hOKrfl41.html <−− what value does R0 hold after the LDR command? |
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| 21:55:45 | Soap | I'm trying to rebuild a colinux enviroment from scratch. I had previously simply updated Jdgordon's prior effort, but I am shocked by how much smaller the archive is for the VMWare image, I figured I might have some cruft, so I started from scratch. |
| 21:55:55 | rp- | de addition from r0 and r4? |
| 21:56:46 | linuxstb | Yes - it's R0 := R0 + R4 |
| 21:56:55 | rp- | thx |
| 21:57:12 | linuxstb | You may find the "arm quick reference" helpful - google for it. |
| 21:57:50 | rp- | i have it, but i wasn't sure if such a statement makes sense or if it is valid |
| 21:58:02 | BiptoN | rp-: http://www.heyrick.co.uk/assembler/index.html |
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| 22:03:58 | tucoz | XavierGr: around? |
| 22:05:23 | tucoz | XavierGr: i wanted to ask what you used to build the vmware image |
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| 22:05:44 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 22:06:17 | amiconn | rp-: After the LDR, ro holds the 32 bit value stored at loc_FFFE, whatever the is |
| 22:06:42 | amiconn | The disassembler seems to do more than it should; loc_FFFE is a data location, not an instruction |
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| 22:09:02 | tucoz | bbl |
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| 22:09:44 | rp- | amiconn: thought that too, but how do i know if it's code or data? |
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| 22:10:12 | amiconn | Well, it's loaded by ldr, hence it's data |
| 22:10:46 | rp- | makes sense ;) |
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| 22:24:37 | tucoz | does anyone else know if there are free tools to build a vmware image? |
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| 22:28:40 | * | tucoz should learn to read. the vmware server is free. :) |
| 22:29:10 | rp- | amiconn: when i'm at thumb mode does ldr r0 only load 16bit? |
| 22:29:16 | BiptoN | you can use tools from qemu |
| 22:29:59 | amiconn | No, why should it? |
| 22:30:02 | tucoz | BiptoN, i'll check it out. thanks |
| 22:30:11 | BiptoN | sure thing |
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| 22:30:21 | BiptoN | are you on windows or *nix? |
| 22:30:29 | Mmmm | ooh err...svn... do I have to check out an entirely new source or can I update my previous cvs ones? |
| 22:31:03 | rp- | just a guess, should have checked the reference before asking |
| 22:31:11 | amiconn | You have to do a fresh checkout |
| 22:31:20 | Mmmm | ok, ta |
| 22:31:23 | tucoz | BiptoN, linux |
| 22:31:31 | BiptoN | good |
| 22:31:32 | BiptoN | ;) |
| 22:31:37 | bluebrother | tucoz, there is VirtualBox around. It's free since a couple of days |
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| 22:31:51 | tucoz | bluebrother, what is that? |
| 22:31:55 | bluebrother | I tried it, looks like it's similar to vmware. |
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| 22:32:02 | tucoz | oh. great |
| 22:32:07 | bluebrother | the only problem was the shared folder, didn't get that working |
| 22:32:14 | bluebrother | http://www.virtualbox.org |
| 22:32:18 | tucoz | thanks |
| 22:32:27 | bluebrother | they released it as GPL some days ago |
| 22:32:50 | bluebrother | can't build a vmware image, but for my requirements it might be a good replacement |
| 22:32:58 | bluebrother | once I get that shared folders working |
| 22:33:00 | tucoz | vmware's eula is quite a long read |
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| 22:35:30 | amiconn | rp-: Google for ddi0100e_arm_arm.pdf |
| 22:36:04 | webguest96 | rockboxers: I think I must be doing something wrong in the registration process for Flyspray. (Bug and Feature request.) I input a username/email addy select email. Then click send code. |
| 22:36:28 | webguest96 | I haven't received an email in the past week. Have done this a few times to no avail. |
| 22:36:48 | dionoea | what version of arm do the pp chips implement ? |
| 22:36:50 | n1s | webguest96: can you try with another email adress |
| 22:37:09 | tucoz | webguest96, or ask Bagder for help :) |
| 22:37:33 | n1s | anyway goodnight fellows |
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| 22:38:46 | tucoz | bluebrother, i was thinking about a possibility to create a quick-start manual as a separate download (.pdf) where we only ship the introduction chapters. |
| 22:39:01 | rp- | amiconn: thx |
| 22:39:06 | amiconn | dionoea: The PP chips feature 2 ARM7TDMI cores, which are arm V4T |
| 22:39:10 | bluebrother | hmm. You think it's worth the work? |
| 22:39:12 | tucoz | like a getting-started, where plugins etc are left out |
| 22:39:34 | tucoz | i do not think it's that hard. we could opt out the references as a start |
| 22:40:02 | bluebrother | it shouldn't be too much work, but I'm not sure it's worth it. |
| 22:40:16 | bluebrother | as the idea was to make the later chapters somewhat an optional read |
| 22:40:17 | tucoz | it's just an idea. but i think 144 pages stops a few people from downloading it |
| 22:40:29 | bluebrother | hehe. Right. |
| 22:40:41 | dionoea | amiconn: so definitively not ARMV6 compatible i guess ? |
| 22:40:52 | amiconn | nope |
| 22:40:59 | bluebrother | so we could add a file that simply defines a FULL symbol |
| 22:41:18 | bluebrother | and include that file if it's present, so the platform file gets somewhat extended |
| 22:41:24 | dionoea | too bad :( mru just commited an ARMV6 IDCT to ffmpeg |
| 22:41:40 | tucoz | yep. and define a quickstart \def |
| 22:42:06 | tucoz | where the \ref's are left out |
| 22:42:15 | bluebrother | \IfFileExists{type.tex}{\input{type.tex}{} |
| 22:42:47 | bluebrother | hmm, that would break all "see <reference>" stuff |
| 22:43:11 | tucoz | i am thinking of the frontpage, install bootloader, install rockbox, and the chapter with the key-reference image is |
| 22:43:40 | tucoz | we could do \nopt{quickstart}{see \reference..} there |
| 22:44:03 | tucoz | makes the "code" a bit messier though |
| 22:44:08 | bluebrother | I'm not sure if I like the added complexity |
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| 22:44:59 | bluebrother | IMO we can call it code. In some way we are programming the output ;-) |
| 22:45:14 | tucoz | yes, we are. tex is turing-complete after all |
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| 22:46:42 | tucoz | i just wanted to hear if it is worth the effort to see what comes out of it (when i feel i got the motivation to do it) |
| 22:46:42 | amiconn | dionoea: It depends on what instructions this idct actually uses. Maybe it can be adapted |
| 22:46:56 | bluebrother | we could try it ... |
| 22:47:33 | tucoz | the problem as you say, is the added complexity |
| 22:47:34 | Mikachu | amiconn: i had a thought earlier, just a theoretical question for now. if one huffman-decoded a jpg, could "large" jpg files be viewed then? ie not needing to fit in ram |
| 22:47:38 | bluebrother | maybe by simply stripping down a set of local copies, and uploading them |
| 22:47:49 | Mikachu | amiconn: iirc you said that was the step that required the mem storage |
| 22:47:50 | bluebrother | and look if the users like it |
| 22:48:01 | dionoea | amiconn: i think that already had a ARMV5TE (whatever that is) implementation. So i guess that big parts are V6 specific |
| 22:48:07 | tucoz | good idea |
| 22:48:13 | bluebrother | if they do we can add the option to svn later |
| 22:48:17 | dionoea | i can post a link to a patch if anyone is interested though |
| 22:48:30 | bluebrother | and by a simple hack we could ignore stuff like broken references. |
| 22:48:47 | bluebrother | simply add a front page that states it as experiment ;-) |
| 22:48:50 | tucoz | hehe |
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| 22:51:15 | tucoz | hopefully, we'll get a default theme soon other than the current, so that we can add prettier screenshots. |
| 22:51:21 | saratoga | hello |
| 22:51:41 | bluebrother | btw, I played around with a shipped themes chapter in the appendix a while ago |
| 22:51:43 | saratoga | is it possible to allocate local function variables in IRAM or do they need to be declared as static |
| 22:52:00 | bluebrother | Didn't like the current state, but I think it would be a good addition |
| 22:52:01 | saratoga | basically i don't understand how IRAM allocation is handled |
| 22:52:03 | amiconn | dionoea: True, esp. since the commit msg. says SIMD |
| 22:52:42 | tucoz | it might be good, yes. |
| 22:52:59 | dionoea | amiconn: and that's not available on the pp chips ? (/me doesn't have a clue) |
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| 22:55:03 | amiconn | Hmm, ffmpeg has an arm v4 idct |
| 22:55:13 | * | amiconn wonders whether we're using it |
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| 22:56:15 | linuxstb | amiconn: No, we're not. |
| 22:56:58 | Mikachu | i'm still not used to the logs, that confuses me every time :) |
| 22:57:04 | dionoea | :p |
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| 22:58:17 | linuxstb | saratoga: Local function variables are on the stack, and plugins run in the main thread, and the main thread's stack is in IRAM. |
| 22:59:00 | saratoga | oh |
| 22:59:15 | saratoga | so if something is just given automatic scope, it is in the iram anyway? |
| 22:59:48 | linuxstb | What do you mean by automatic scope? |
| 22:59:59 | saratoga | err automatic or whatever its called |
| 23:00 |
| 23:00:06 | saratoga | when you say "int x" |
| 23:00:14 | saratoga | within a function |
| 23:00:25 | saratoga | sorry, my c is really rusty |
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| 23:00:37 | linuxstb | Yes, variables declared within a function are on the stack - hence in IRAM. |
| 23:00:48 | linuxstb | Unless you declare them static. |
| 23:01:19 | saratoga | then i'm confused about the profileing results posted for dct32 |
| 23:01:30 | saratoga | its just a long series of adds and muls for local variables |
| 23:01:33 | amiconn | linuxstb: Any special reason why we don't? |
| 23:01:38 | saratoga | how are those not in the IRAM? |
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| 23:01:56 | linuxstb | amiconn: ffmpeg's MPEG decoder is different to libmpeg2. I'm sure it could be ported, but no-one has looked at it. |
| 23:01:57 | BiptoN | does anyone know off the top of their heads what files need to be editted to add a new function in the quickscreen? |
| 23:02:02 | saratoga | or if they are, then why does that code give so many cache misses |
| 23:02:28 | linuxstb | Was the profiling on the iFP7xx? |
| 23:02:33 | saratoga | yeah |
| 23:02:48 | saratoga | i believe it has 64k of IRAM right? |
| 23:02:51 | amiconn | Meh, I forgot we don't use ffmpeg for video |
| 23:03:24 | linuxstb | mirak was looking at porting ffmpeg's decoder, but I'm not sure he got anywhere with it. |
| 23:03:25 | Mikachu | at least on x86 ffmpeg is a lot faster than libmpeg2 |
| 23:03:47 | dionoea | Mikachu: err ... you're sure it's not the other way arround ? |
| 23:03:56 | linuxstb | That's not surprising - ffmpeg is heavily optimised for x86. |
| 23:04:11 | mirak | linuxstb: no I did not finished, no time |
| 23:04:50 | TrueJournals | Hey, anyone know how to get wine working on the VMWare image? |
| 23:04:54 | mirak | dionoea: libmpeg2 is not maintained anymore since many years, ffmpeg2 still have some coding going |
| 23:05:03 | Mikachu | TrueJournals: isn't that like ... sort of stupid? |
| 23:05:09 | bluebrother | wine inside of the image? |
| 23:05:15 | TrueJournals | lol, I guess |
| 23:05:34 | TrueJournals | OK then... different question |
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| 23:05:44 | dionoea | http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2004-August/028021.html (ok, ffmpeg wins :p) |
| 23:05:52 | TrueJournals | is there any way to easily get a webbrowser (like Firefox) working in the VMWare image |
| 23:06:14 | Mikachu | if you ever run firefox in wine i will come to your house and kill you |
| 23:06:23 | bluebrother | install firefox? |
| 23:06:26 | | Quit robin0800 ("For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.") |
| 23:06:31 | Mikachu | and i mean that in a kind way |
| 23:06:37 | bluebrother | btw, doesn't the image have a browser installed already? |
| 23:07:25 | TrueJournals | bluebrother: it has text-based browsers... I'd like a visual browser |
| 23:07:57 | bluebrother | ever tried links? When running in xterm you can even click ;-) |
| 23:08:08 | bluebrother | apt-get install firefox? |
| 23:08:08 | Mikachu | TrueJournals: try apt-get firefox |
| 23:08:13 | Mikachu | is that the command? |
| 23:08:14 | bluebrother | or iceweasel? |
| 23:08:15 | TrueJournals | let me try that... |
| 23:08:29 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: I'm not sure what's in the vmware image, but try "apt-get install mozilla-firefox" |
| 23:08:59 | bluebrother | maybe apt-cache search firefox to find the package name ... |
| 23:09:00 | * | amiconn doubts that the vmware image knows about firefox, let alone iceweasel |
| 23:09:10 | bluebrother | but I stopped using apt some years ago |
| 23:09:18 | amiconn | Iirc the vmware image is debian stable, aka debian outdated |
| 23:09:51 | bluebrother | stable? Oh. |
| 23:10:25 | TrueJournals | the problem is... anytime I try using apt-get, it just gives me dependency errors |
| 23:10:32 | Mikachu | can't you add stuff to sources.list or something? |
| 23:10:35 | Mikachu | <- never used debian |
| 23:10:37 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: Why do you need a web browser in vmware? What's wrong with just using Windows? |
| 23:10:51 | bluebrother | download the binary version of mozilla ... |
| 23:11:04 | TrueJournals | linuxstb: it would be easier to download patches directly into the image instead of downloading them to windows, then using SAMBA to transfer them to VMWare |
| 23:11:07 | bluebrother | did that for testing a year ago. Worked fine |
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| 23:11:20 | bluebrother | you can always wget it |
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| 23:11:25 | linuxstb | TrueJournals: Can't you just download them to //debian/user ? |
| 23:11:50 | linuxstb | wget doesn't play well with the patch tracker. |
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| 23:12:06 | Mikachu | it just doesn't rename the files |
| 23:12:10 | TrueJournals | I duno, never really tried... I think it'd still be easier to just do everything inside the image instead of having to switch between the image and windows... |
| 23:12:21 | Mikachu | TrueJournals: you don't have to run the image fullscreen |
| 23:12:28 | Mikachu | just treat it like a window |
| 23:12:42 | Mikachu | iirc vmware can ungrab the mouse when you go near the edge |
| 23:12:44 | bluebrother | hmm. Just tried, worked fine for me |
| 23:12:59 | bluebrother | you need to enclose the url in " |
| 23:13:00 | TrueJournals | I'm not running it fullscreen.... but I don't have a very fast computer |
| 23:13:06 | w1ll14m|away | mikachu: press ctrl+alt and vmware is released |
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| 23:13:17 | Mikachu | yeah but automatically is better :) |
| 23:13:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: And what is the downloaded file called? |
| 23:13:31 | amiconn | The vmware image is pretty minimalistic. If someone wants to do all rockbox development inside linux, it would be better to run a complete linux installation in a vm |
| 23:14:02 | TrueJournals | I just want a "normal" web browser... |
| 23:14:06 | w1ll14m | amiconn: or just setup a full featured linux system |
| 23:14:08 | amiconn | But such a vm image will become rather large, very hard to ship |
| 23:14:13 | w1ll14m | on an stand alone computer |
| 23:14:17 | bluebrother | the same way it appears on the tracker page |
| 23:14:34 | amiconn | w1ll14m: Perhaps, but it depends on the hardware, and what other programs you need /want to use |
| 23:14:38 | Mikachu | bluebrother: it doesn't save with the correct filename |
| 23:14:47 | bluebrother | it does for me. |
| 23:14:49 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I always get files called something like "index.html?getfile=13135" |
| 23:14:50 | Mikachu | hm |
| 23:14:58 | bluebrother | Maybe it's a different version of wget |
| 23:15:02 | Mikachu | i have 1.10.2 |
| 23:15:05 | w1ll14m | amiconn: true i own a few computers so i dedicated on to rockbox and it's stuff :) |
| 23:15:06 | Mikachu | i doubt they removed the feature |
| 23:15:11 | * | amiconn recommends curl instead of wget |
| 23:15:16 | Mikachu | ;) |
| 23:15:41 | Mikachu | it just printed the file to stdout |
| 23:15:42 | bluebrother | that's my output: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/pastebin/35 |
| 23:15:49 | amiconn | w1ll14m: I also run a linux machine, but believe it or not, I prefer windows for rockbox development, in spite of cygwin being slow |
| 23:15:50 | linuxstb | amiconn: Can you make curl act like wget by default - i.e. save to a file instead of stdout? |
| 23:16:19 | * | w1ll14m seems like he dousn't know the difference between curl and wget |
| 23:16:30 | w1ll14m | doesn't ;) |
| 23:16:35 | Mikachu | w1ll14m: don't tell Bagder that |
| 23:16:37 | Bagder | linuxstb: -O (uppercase the letter o) |
| 23:16:48 | w1ll14m | mikachu:whahah why not > |
| 23:16:49 | w1ll14m | ? |
| 23:17:00 | Mikachu | Bagder: that still called the file '?getfile=13135' |
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| 23:17:18 | Bagder | Mikachu: yes, since it picks the name off the rightmost part from the URL |
| 23:17:26 | Bagder | not from any received headers |
| 23:17:28 | Mikachu | the server sends a Content-Disposition: filename=mem_mon.patch, can you use that? |
| 23:17:36 | Bagder | although they say recent (cvs) wget does that |
| 23:17:49 | Mikachu | hopefully stripping any slashes first :) |
| 23:18:05 | w1ll14m | Mikachu: it seems to have a difference in url to file handling :) and i know bagder has done much work on curl ;) |
| 23:18:11 | * | linuxstb upgrades to wget 1.10.2 |
| 23:18:17 | Mikachu | linuxstb: it doesn't help :) |
| 23:18:22 | Mikachu | 23:15:02 <Mikachu> i have 1.10.2 |
| 23:18:25 | bluebrother | with curl I get a file called ?getfile=11877 |
| 23:18:32 | Bagder | no, you need a later version than 1.10.2 |
| 23:18:43 | w1ll14m | with wget it's indet.html?getfile=xxxxx |
| 23:18:52 | bluebrother | GNU Wget 1.10.2 (Red Hat modified) on my box |
| 23:19:00 | Mikachu | crazy red hat, that explains it |
| 23:19:01 | w1ll14m | index* |
| 23:19:05 | Bagder | Red Hat modified is the key there |
| 23:19:13 | linuxstb | Indeed. |
| 23:19:24 | bluebrother | it is? Good to know. |
| 23:19:24 | Mikachu | i almost forgot to apply my wget-penisprogress.patch |
| 23:19:28 | bluebrother | at least a modification I like ;-) |
| 23:19:30 | * | amiconn never used wget, and only played with curl a little |
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| 23:20:27 | amiconn | curl -o <filename> should do the trick |
| 23:20:31 | * | w1ll14m just found out that his local time is 23:20 and it is sunday, he jumps away from the computer and lights his last sigaret for today and switches off his monitor |
| 23:20:37 | w1ll14m | sleep well dudes :) cya later |
| 23:20:41 | Mikachu | amiconn: of course, you can just rename the file after too |
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| 23:21:02 | Bagder | my main reason for letting -O remain as it is, is that it makes it predictable |
| 23:21:15 | Mikachu | 23:21:11 (235 KB/s) - `mem_mon.patch' saved [9988/9988] |
| 23:21:17 | Mikachu | hooray |
| 23:21:44 | mattzz | great plugin, by the way ;-) |
| 23:21:49 | bluebrother | patched version? |
| 23:21:55 | Mikachu | i fetched svn |
| 23:22:01 | bluebrother | ah :) |
| 23:25:04 | bluebrother | my package seems to got installed by a recent update. Built on 10th Jan. That explains some things ... |
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| 23:25:34 | Bagder | wget is left with no developers during long times |
| 23:25:41 | Bagder | which makes the distros patch it a lot |
| 23:26:22 | Mikachu | there is a fun mistake to make with wget, if you say wget -o filename it saves log output to filename, it's -O to specify filename :) |
| 23:26:33 | Mikachu | </random> |
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| 23:34:54 | bluebrother | 1k-1 open tasks in the tracker ... |
| 23:35:13 | Mikachu | yeah you people suck on closing tasks :) |
| 23:35:56 | bluebrother | hmm ... wasn't aware I was put into the "task closer" section of the KnowledgeMap ;-) |
| 23:36:08 | Mikachu | i didn't mean you specifically |
| 23:37:14 | Mikachu | you should be less shy about closing tasks nobody's ever going to finish |
| 23:37:51 | Mikachu | you can probably close this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3031 |
| 23:38:54 | bluebrother | hehe ... the main issue is currently my limited time |
| 23:39:09 | Mikachu | that's a task i opened, i don't think it applies anymore |
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| 23:44:50 | bluebrother | Bagder, is there any specific reason Jabber notifications to be disabled in FS? Would be a nice thing. |
| 23:45:02 | Bagder | no specific, no |
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| 23:45:21 | Zagor | bluebrother: it's just because I haven't set it up |
| 23:45:58 | bluebrother | ah, ok. Then I'll wait patiently for the day this feature gets available :) |
| 23:47:01 | bluebrother | having a better search in FS would be more important to me |
| 23:47:29 | Zagor | well that's a job at quite another level... |
| 23:47:53 | Zagor | you probably want to discuss that in #flyspray instead :) |
| 23:49:33 | bluebrother | hehe ... looks like they are coming closer to a new release. |
| 23:51:24 | bluebrother | the upcoming version looks quite impressive |
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