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| 00:01:43 | bluebrother | there is no locale-all for my distro |
| 00:01:48 | bospaadje | what's this arm-elf-gcc compiler i need? |
| 00:02:09 | bluebrother | it's a gcc that compiles for an arm target |
| 00:02:14 | bluebrother | also known as cross-compiler |
| 00:02:21 | Zagor | bluebrother: right, but the fact that locale-all apparently fixed it (haven't tried myself) indicates the problem is a missing locale |
| 00:02:53 | safetydan | noodroog, do you have the hold switch on when you turn on your iPod? |
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| 00:03:05 | safetydan | IIRC that causes a settings reset. |
| 00:03:56 | bluebrother | hmm. /usr/lib/locale has 376 entries ... |
| 00:04:29 | Zagor | bluebrother: what is your distro? |
| 00:04:47 | bluebrother | Fedora, Core 5 currently |
| 00:05:03 | bluebrother | iconv (GNU libc) 2.4 |
| 00:05:11 | noodroog | <safetydan> noodroog, do you have the hold switch on when you turn on your iPod? |
| 00:05:13 | bluebrother | is there anything newer around? Haven't checked yet |
| 00:05:16 | noodroog | yeah i probably do it by mistake |
| 00:05:20 | noodroog | is there any way to turn that off? |
| 00:06:26 | safetydan | noodroog, no. It's a feature. |
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| 00:06:28 | Soul-Slayer | noodroog: Not as far as I know, it's used as a failsafe way to clear your config settings without being connected to a computer or anything, any corruptions without it could be a bad idea :P |
| 00:07:10 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 00:07:50 | noodroog | ah ok, thanks then |
| 00:08:20 | Soul-Slayer | Just be sure to check you have hold off before trying to boot ^^ |
| 00:09:08 | Mikachu | i have a patch that disables settings reset on hold if the headphone cable is also in |
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| 00:12:31 | noodroog | mikachu - ive not had much luck with patches so far, cant get them to compile :/ |
| 00:12:48 | noodroog | (the same erm-elf-gcc thing something mentioned above, only under cygwin) |
| 00:13:05 | Mikachu | that would be the compiler |
| 00:13:12 | Mikachu | an essential part of compiling |
| 00:13:35 | noodroog | well yeah but i have gcc and ive looked through all the cygwin packages and cant find anything called that |
| 00:13:57 | Mikachu | instead of doing that you can read the instructions on the wiki |
| 00:14:25 | bospaadje | indeed, just found this: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CrossCompiler |
| 00:14:50 | bospaadje | very helpful, especially the gentoo part (for me (gentoo-user)) :) |
| 00:15:38 | noodroog | heh, thanks |
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| 00:19:50 | bluebrother | I'm off for some sleep. If the daily manual breaks we will notice ... and if not I can find a solution on my side later |
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| 00:21:18 | n1s | safetydan: hi, just wanted to tell you that i wont have any time for the lang cleanup this week but will probably take after the weekend. |
| 00:21:30 | n1s | take a look |
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| 00:23:06 | safetydan | n1s, no worries |
| 00:24:35 | dantje | Hi. I just downloaded rockbox current for my Sansa e250 plus fonts, then unzipped both files to the root dir of the Sansa, unplugged USB and power-cycled. No visible change. Did I miss something? |
| 00:24:59 | TrueJournals | You need to download the bootloader |
| 00:25:06 | TrueJournals | Look in the manual for instructions |
| 00:25:26 | TrueJournals | ( http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-sansae200/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 ) |
| 00:25:31 | Zagor | dantje: and READ the instructions carefully! lost of sansa owners are sloppy and brick their players! |
| 00:25:57 | dantje | Ok, will do. Thanks. I'll RTFM myself in the corner... |
| 00:26:12 | TrueJournals | unfortunately... the manual's 2.2.3. Installing the boot loader section seems to be empty |
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| 00:27:15 | TrueJournals | Go here for instructions: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200Install |
| 00:27:34 | n1s | Maybe because the sansa port doesn't have sound yet no-one thought non-dev people would install it? |
| 00:27:47 | TrueJournals | lol |
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| 00:28:05 | TrueJournals | yeah, looking at the status page, it seems like the sansa port is in a VERY early stage |
| 00:28:30 | TrueJournals | dantje: you might want to hold off on installing for now... follow the port, and wait till it's actually.. well.. useable :-\ |
| 00:28:31 | dantje | Ah yes, the devenv is compiling in the other window :-) |
| 00:28:58 | TrueJournals | ah, so you are a dev? |
| 00:30:23 | dantje | Well, never did something with rockbox, but I manage to make a living of developing software... |
| 00:30:49 | TrueJournals | I see |
| 00:32:36 | heavylaythecrown | anyone here use the mpegplayer plugin for an ipod? |
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| 00:32:49 | heavylaythecrown | or know much about it.. |
| 00:33:26 | TrueJournals | not for an iPod... but I might be able to help anyway :-\ |
| 00:34:04 | TrueJournals | actually, nevermind... I gotta go |
| 00:34:06 | heavylaythecrown | well im interested.. it sounds glitchy. should i just stick to switching to the ipod firmware for now or does it work wellenough? |
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| 00:34:10 | heavylaythecrown | no! |
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| 00:36:10 | preglow | so it is possible to actually brick the sansas ? |
| 00:40:28 | scorche | Zagor: you rang me a bit ago? |
| 00:40:52 | Zagor | yeah have you looked into the cloak list yet? |
| 00:41:35 | Zagor | preglow: apparently yes. the recovery mode, ironically, allows you to really destroy it. |
| 00:41:42 | scorche | i have...i sent a mail to staff@freenode.net (staffers said that would be the easiest), but that sint know really knows for replying in a timely manner |
| 00:42:26 | scorche | s/sint know really know/isnt really known |
| 00:42:29 | scorche | eek... |
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| 00:44:13 | Zagor | well, we're not in a hurry anyway. |
| 00:47:00 | linuxstb_ | heavylaythecrown: Do you have an ipod video? |
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| 00:52:36 | zylche | isn't rockbox meant to play aac encoded sound files? :/ |
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| 00:54:44 | heavylaythecrown | linuxstb_: yes |
| 00:54:47 | safetydan | zylche, I believe so |
| 00:55:17 | zylche | ohh, and I keep getting "incompatible model" coming up, upgraded the correct model [ipod video] to the latest version |
| 00:55:21 | zylche | <.< |
| 00:56:03 | safetydan | zylche, you haven't upgrade properly then. Make sure you overwrite rockbox.ipod and the .rockbox folder |
| 00:56:36 | * | zylche removes the folder and file and re-extracts them |
| 00:56:38 | linuxstb_ | heavylaythecrown: Then forget mpegplayer, it's designed for devices without special video decoding hardware. You should stick to the Apple firmware. |
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| 00:56:51 | maretard | hey everybody, just wondering, how do you apply a patch?!? |
| 00:57:08 | TrueJournals | maretard: What OS are you running? |
| 00:57:13 | heavylaythecrown | but does mpegplayer allow me to play video on the rockbox side? |
| 00:57:24 | safetydan | maretard, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WorkingWithPatches |
| 00:57:35 | maretard | iriver h10 20gig, latest daily build of rockbox |
| 00:57:41 | maretard | sweet, thanks a bunch! |
| 00:57:49 | linuxstb_ | Yes, but not using the ipod video's video decoding hardware, so it is nowhere near as good as the Apple firmware. |
| 00:58:14 | heavylaythecrown | just out of curiosity, why isnt video supported yet? is it hard to implement? |
| 00:58:22 | maretard | oh btw, i managed to get video working on my h10, but the framerate lags behind the audio like a MOTHER |
| 00:58:31 | maretard | is there any setting i can configure for this? |
| 00:58:53 | maretard | apparently i'm supposed to apply a patch enabling my second core to decode the video, but that's why i need to apply the patch first ^_^ |
| 00:59:17 | TrueJournals | maretard: Not really.. the kernel_on_cop patch should help a little, but mpegplayer is still very buggy |
| 00:59:24 | linuxstb_ | heavylaythecrown: Assuming that you're asking why Rockbox doesn't use the ipod video's undocumented video decoding chip, it's because it's undocumented. |
| 00:59:32 | TrueJournals | You might want to change the skip frames setting in mpegplayer to On |
| 00:59:47 | maretard | i am skipping frames, but then the video is barely viewable |
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| 00:59:54 | maretard | it's like 0.5 fps T_T |
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| 01:00:22 | TrueJournals | Then the kernel_on_cop patch should help |
| 01:00:27 | heavylaythecrown | linuxstb_: does ipodlinux support video playback? |
| 01:00:29 | markun | maretard: buy a Gigabeat :) |
| 01:00:33 | maretard | ok, i'm looking at the patch manual, but how am i supposed to apply it? |
| 01:00:36 | maretard | hahahaha :D |
| 01:00:41 | linuxstb_ | maretard: You need the kernel_on_cop patch for anything like reasonable playback. |
| 01:00:45 | TrueJournals | If you want, I can make a build for you real quick (I have everything downloaded) |
| 01:00:50 | maretard | oh sweet |
| 01:01:00 | maretard | that would be awesome! |
| 01:01:00 | TrueJournals | just give me like 5 minutes... |
| 01:01:07 | maretard | coolcool, no problem! :D |
| 01:01:27 | linuxstb_ | heavylaythecrown: It has video playback similar to Rockbox - i.e. not using the ipod video's video decoder. |
| 01:01:51 | linuxstb_ | I'm not sure if the IPL video player even works on the ipod video. |
| 01:02:08 | linuxstb_ | (I think it's just the Nano and Photo/Color) |
| 01:02:23 | heavylaythecrown | linuxstb_: ok. so what is the best program to use to convert videos to an acceptable ipod format? ive had trouble in the past |
| 01:02:42 | linuxstb_ | No idea - that's not a question for #rockbox |
| 01:02:53 | heavylaythecrown | k thanks |
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| 01:09:55 | maretard | has everyone stopped talking, or has my internet timed out? |
| 01:10:05 | TrueJournals | everyone's stopped talking |
| 01:10:07 | markun | stopped talking |
| 01:10:08 | maretard | ah haha |
| 01:10:08 | bospaadje | they stopped talking |
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| 01:10:12 | maretard | lolol |
| 01:10:18 | maretard | still building, TJ? :D |
| 01:10:22 | TrueJournals | yup |
| 01:10:25 | TrueJournals | almost done |
| 01:10:28 | maretard | thanks a bunch, man |
| 01:10:56 | maretard | patching is such a big hassle when you just want to apply one and get out of the maze of manuals and infodocs safely :D |
| 01:10:56 | bospaadje | damn, i built the wrong crosscompiler |
| 01:11:11 | bospaadje | i'm in for some waiting again :S |
| 01:11:22 | maretard | without all the compilation/codewriting stuff T_T |
| 01:11:30 | TrueJournals | heh |
| 01:11:41 | TrueJournals | brb |
| 01:11:47 | maretard | haha k |
| 01:12:43 | TrueJournals | ok, back |
| 01:12:49 | TrueJournals | darn samba... |
| 01:13:04 | maretard | samba? |
| 01:13:04 | maretard | ? |
| 01:13:20 | daurnimator | hi all |
| 01:13:27 | TrueJournals | filesharing program to share files between linux and windows |
| 01:13:27 | maretard | hola |
| 01:13:31 | maretard | ahh |
| 01:13:34 | maretard | you're on linux? |
| 01:13:40 | TrueJournals | I'm using a virtual machine to compile rockbox (linux running in windows) |
| 01:13:48 | maretard | ah, i see |
| 01:13:59 | TrueJournals | so, to get files from the virtual machine to windows and give it to you... I need samba working |
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| 01:14:04 | TrueJournals | sometimes it decides to not work |
| 01:14:06 | maretard | and it's not :D |
| 01:14:13 | maretard | hehe |
| 01:14:22 | maretard | well i've gotta go eat |
| 01:14:25 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 01:14:27 | maretard | so could you zip it up and email it to me? |
| 01:14:30 | TrueJournals | yes |
| 01:14:31 | maretard | maretard@gmail.com |
| 01:14:37 | maretard | thanks a zillion, man! |
| 01:14:41 | TrueJournals | np |
| 01:14:44 | maretard | ttyl! |
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| 01:15:07 | Mikachu | TrueJournals: maybe you'd have more luck with an ftp server :) |
| 01:15:40 | zylche | weird, "Save Failed" <new line> "No Partition" appeared on my ipod just there when I was listening to song.. |
| 01:15:42 | TrueJournals | well... I have an FTP server that I can run on my machine... but I don't think I have anything for ftp in vmware |
| 01:15:50 | TrueJournals | nevermind |
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| 01:22:48 | TrueJournals | yes! It worked! |
| 01:22:49 | TrueJournals | :-p |
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| 01:36:11 | TrueJournals | GMAIL IS PISSING ME OFF |
| 01:36:17 | maretard | LOL |
| 01:36:19 | maretard | how so? |
| 01:36:57 | TrueJournals | it won't let me send you the files |
| 01:37:09 | TrueJournals | I'm going to upload them to rapidshare.com if that's OK with you... |
| 01:38:49 | TrueJournals | OK, go to http://rapidshare.com/files/14175732/RockboxKernelonCOP-Zipped.zip to get the files |
| 01:38:56 | maretard | sweet, man |
| 01:39:14 | maretard | thanks!!! |
| 01:39:18 | TrueJournals | in the zip is rockbox.zip and H10_20GC.mi4. Put H10_20GC.mi4 in your system folder, and extract rockbox.zip to the base directory of your player |
| 01:39:18 | maretard | uhh |
| 01:39:19 | TrueJournals | np |
| 01:39:23 | maretard | ah i see |
| 01:39:27 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 01:39:29 | maretard | so it's like a totally new build of rockbox |
| 01:39:35 | TrueJournals | yeah |
| 01:39:36 | maretard | what happens when i update RB though? |
| 01:39:45 | TrueJournals | then you will lose the patch :-\ |
| 01:40:03 | Soap | the you learn to patch yourself! ;) |
| 01:40:06 | maretard | T__T |
| 01:40:12 | maretard | sighhh |
| 01:40:13 | preglow | D: |
| 01:40:19 | maretard | looks like i'll be forced to join the dev horde T_T |
| 01:40:30 | * | Soap is no dev. |
| 01:40:32 | maretard | what's so good about updates anyway? |
| 01:40:36 | maretard | :D |
| 01:40:47 | bospaadje | you get new stuff |
| 01:40:56 | bospaadje | shiny! |
| 01:40:58 | bospaadje | :P |
| 01:40:59 | maretard | like...? |
| 01:41:19 | Soap | I thought you were joking about updating. |
| 01:41:19 | maretard | uhhhhh |
| 01:41:21 | maretard | truejournals |
| 01:41:26 | maretard | rockbox.zip is corrupt |
| 01:41:26 | bospaadje | uh.. new features/improvements |
| 01:41:30 | maretard | ah |
| 01:41:47 | Mikachu | it might even include the patch you're trying to use |
| 01:41:52 | maretard | sweet |
| 01:41:54 | Soap | There is stability, battery life, new pluggins, new features, better menus, what more could you get w/o a new player? |
| 01:42:14 | maretard | hahaha |
| 01:42:22 | maretard | oh well |
| 01:42:26 | maretard | i guess i'll have to learn then ^_^ |
| 01:42:40 | bospaadje | maretard, i'm doing so right now ;) |
| 01:42:51 | Soap | if you realized how recent some of the coolest things were.... |
| 01:43:00 | maretard | lke? |
| 01:43:01 | maretard | like* |
| 01:43:06 | bospaadje | In my case, it involves lots of waiting for arm-elf-gcc to finish compiling |
| 01:43:11 | maretard | ah |
| 01:43:18 | maretard | * clueless * :D |
| 01:43:35 | Mikachu | bospaadje: it's faster if you don't use -O3 ;) |
| 01:43:48 | bospaadje | i don't, i think it's -O2 |
| 01:43:50 | maretard | sigh |
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| 01:43:58 | * | bospaadje checks |
| 01:44:02 | maretard | does anyone have an IRIVER H10 20GIG that can play video with a good FPS? |
| 01:44:40 | barrywardell | maretard: i got the fps that are shown on the PluginMpegplayer page |
| 01:45:01 | maretard | holy crap |
| 01:45:04 | Soul-Slayer | Is the Kernel on COP patch still flawed? |
| 01:45:08 | maretard | dunno |
| 01:46:17 | maretard | anybody there? |
| 01:46:40 | maretard | ... |
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| 01:46:58 | maretard | well |
| 01:47:00 | barrywardell | Soul-Slayer: there are problems on the H10 |
| 01:47:05 | maretard | argh |
| 01:47:07 | barrywardell | dunno about other targets |
| 01:47:14 | maretard | what's wrong with the h10? |
| 01:47:33 | maretard | low processing power? |
| 01:47:36 | barrywardell | something to do with setting the cpu frequency |
| 01:47:39 | maretard | ah |
| 01:47:47 | barrywardell | it probably affects other targets too |
| 01:47:47 | maretard | well i've noticed that the H's tend to be weak as hell |
| 01:47:54 | maretard | rockbox actually LAGS on mine |
| 01:48:04 | barrywardell | the h10 has the same processing power as the ipods |
| 01:48:09 | maretard | really?? |
| 01:48:11 | bospaadje | hmm that pluginmpegplayer page looks promising for my ipod nano, i might try that out soon |
| 01:48:14 | maretard | wow O_O |
| 01:48:14 | Soul-Slayer | It's practically the same thing |
| 01:48:18 | maretard | well anyway |
| 01:48:19 | maretard | i g2g |
| 01:48:22 | maretard | swim team ^_^ |
| 01:48:22 | barrywardell | yes, they even have the same processor |
| 01:48:28 | Soap | KoCOP #7 still makes my ipod lag. |
| 01:48:29 | Soul-Slayer | The similarities between ipods and H10s are incredible, lol |
| 01:48:30 | maretard | i'll see if i can learn how to patch |
| 01:48:36 | maretard | i'll tty guys later |
| 01:48:39 | maretard | peace :P |
| 01:48:39 | Soul-Slayer | Goodbye. |
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| 01:49:07 | Soul-Slayer | Soap: Does it lower performance for you with the patch applied? |
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| 01:49:28 | Soap | yes, which is why I still remove 12120 and then apply KoCOP#6 |
| 01:50:22 | Soul-Slayer | And that results in an increase in performance? |
| 01:50:51 | Soap | back to where things were before 12120 |
| 01:51:17 | Soul-Slayer | Would you mind telling me what 12120 is? |
| 01:51:20 | Soap | but you should try both ways and see if KoCOP#7 causes problems. |
| 01:51:46 | Soap | SVN commit #12120, the cleanup of playback.c which broke KoCOP#6 |
| 01:51:56 | Soul-Slayer | Ahh right, gotcha. |
| 01:52:15 | barrywardell | Soap: there is one thing that I see I changed (not really intentionally) in KoCOP#7 |
| 01:52:32 | barrywardell | i put voice_thread_start in IRAM |
| 01:52:43 | barrywardell | you could try removing it and see if it changes anything |
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| 01:53:18 | Soap | just clip that one line? |
| 01:53:21 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: do you have any idea why kernel_on_cop_7 and the scrolling margins patch together would cause my H10 to just suddenly reset after debug info is shown? |
| 01:53:55 | barrywardell | Soap: just remove the IDATA_ATTR from it |
| 01:54:08 | Soap | ok |
| 01:54:31 | barrywardell | Soap: I can't see how it would make much difference, but you never know... |
| 01:55:03 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: I don't know about scrolling margins, but I know kernel_on_cop had problems with the ipod_set_cpu_frequency function |
| 01:55:29 | TrueJournals | ok, maybe I'll try removing that and see if it solves the problem.. |
| 01:55:30 | Soap | #7 makes the iPod 5th gen. bog down dramaticly, Llorean confirms on his Nano. |
| 01:55:48 | bospaadje | just curious, wat is kernel_on_cop? |
| 01:56:13 | Soul-Slayer | bospaadje: Takes advantage of the dual processors and loads the kernel from the coprocessor |
| 01:56:14 | TrueJournals | the PP5020 cpu has two cores... kernel_on_cop allows you to use both cores of the cpu |
| 01:56:29 | bospaadje | ah |
| 01:56:55 | Soul-Slayer | Currently however it seems flawed, in the way it makes things slower, completely the wrong effect |
| 01:57:31 | bospaadje | i gathered that much :) |
| 01:57:35 | Soul-Slayer | Heh |
| 01:58:12 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: remove it from system_init() in firmware/system.c |
| 01:58:35 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 01:58:35 | Soul-Slayer | To be honest, this is the one commit I have truly been looking forward to, full performance would be great :p. |
| 01:58:45 | Soul-Slayer | Or atleast, enhanced performance. |
| 01:59:53 | Soul-Slayer | Oh curse this 6gb H10 and it's stupidly small screen... |
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| 02:00:06 | * | Genre9mp3 dances the "yet another new game plugin" dance |
| 02:00:08 | Soap | meh - it is a _music_ player |
| 02:00:17 | Soul-Slayer | True enough |
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| 02:01:14 | barrywardell | Soul-Slayer: small screen=less time spent by the cpu updating it |
| 02:01:19 | barrywardell | so it's not all bad |
| 02:01:34 | Soul-Slayer | I suppose so, yes. |
| 02:02:41 | Soul-Slayer | Has frozen out a lot of the plugins that could have been perfectly viable however, annoying, but of course, can't have everything. I am just glad it was ported to the H10 at all :p |
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| 02:03:29 | barrywardell | some people are doing work on adapting plugins to the smaller screen. there have been a few new ones recently |
| 02:03:44 | Soul-Slayer | Yes, I noticed the RockBoy one, that was a nice addition |
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| 02:05:35 | TrueJournals | yeah, I just recently saw the rockboy one too |
| 02:05:42 | TrueJournals | yay rockboy :-D |
| 02:05:47 | Soul-Slayer | Heh |
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| 02:05:56 | TrueJournals | too bad it's slow and the sound is really... messed up... |
| 02:06:03 | Soul-Slayer | Haha, yes, too true. |
| 02:06:15 | Soul-Slayer | And the text is hard to read (On the 5/6gb model that is) |
| 02:06:23 | barrywardell | Soul-Slayer: have you tried rockboy on your H10? I was hoping someone would test to see if they could reproduce my bug... |
| 02:06:26 | Soul-Slayer | But that's due to it being scaled of course |
| 02:06:31 | Soul-Slayer | Yes, I have rockboy on my H10 |
| 02:06:52 | TrueJournals | text isn't that bad to read on 20 GB |
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| 02:07:09 | barrywardell | Soul-Slayer: you get the same crash i do? |
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| 02:07:35 | Soul-Slayer | I did read through your problem, and I have no trouble changing my scaling to other options |
| 02:07:45 | Soul-Slayer | I shall try again however, give me a moment. |
| 02:08:42 | Soul-Slayer | Okay, loading ROM. |
| 02:09:06 | barrywardell | try loading a rom. entering the menu. change a settting, then back out of the menu |
| 02:09:12 | Soul-Slayer | Menu -> Options -> Changed 'Max Frameskip' to 3 max rather than 4 max |
| 02:09:15 | barrywardell | it's not just changing scaling that causes it |
| 02:09:25 | Soul-Slayer | Hit the back button... Still playing my ROM |
| 02:09:35 | Soul-Slayer | I trust you have tried other ROMs? |
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| 02:10:40 | Soul-Slayer | Re-entered options to turn that infernal racket it calls 'sound' off, hit back to leave the main menu and still playing |
| 02:10:46 | barrywardell | i tried two roms |
| 02:11:03 | barrywardell | so it's just on 20GB then |
| 02:11:15 | Soul-Slayer | Interesting... TrueJournals, you have the 20GB model I believe? Do you get this problem? |
| 02:11:18 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: have you experienced my bug? |
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| 02:11:56 | TrueJournals | no, I haven't |
| 02:12:12 | Soul-Slayer | How strange... |
| 02:12:39 | Soul-Slayer | Did you patch it yourself True, or use the mini build on misticriver? |
| 02:12:46 | TrueJournals | patched it myself |
| 02:12:51 | Soul-Slayer | Hmm |
| 02:13:15 | Soul-Slayer | Can only imagine you are both using different SVN's |
| 02:13:19 | TrueJournals | I'm building another build right now without the ipod_set_cpu_frequency as barry suggested... I'll try again when this is done |
| 02:13:24 | Soul-Slayer | And something recently messed up |
| 02:13:29 | Soul-Slayer | Okay. |
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| 02:13:31 | barrywardell | maybe it's just the two roms i have |
| 02:13:42 | Soul-Slayer | Hmm. |
| 02:13:56 | barrywardell | Soul-Slayer: it only happens the first time i run rockboy after powering on |
| 02:14:38 | Soul-Slayer | I literally powered on and went straight into a ROM to test, so I imagine it would be the same scenario you are having in this case |
| 02:14:57 | Soul-Slayer | Can only be your ROMs |
| 02:15:01 | Soul-Slayer | I think :p |
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| 02:16:24 | barrywardell | i'll try some different ones |
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| 02:17:57 | Soul-Slayer | They definitely have the .gb or .gbc extension? |
| 02:18:18 | barrywardell | yup |
| 02:18:24 | barrywardell | and they run fine otherwise |
| 02:18:30 | Soul-Slayer | Hm |
| 02:18:31 | barrywardell | well, slow, but fine |
| 02:18:39 | Soul-Slayer | Slow is to be expected I guess |
| 02:19:46 | barrywardell | until someone optimises |
| 02:20:07 | TrueJournals | I commended out the ipod_set_cpu_frequency and now scrolling is really jaggy... it'll scroll like 5 files, pause, scroll, pause... |
| 02:20:20 | Soul-Slayer | Ouch |
| 02:20:25 | TrueJournals | and it says there's disk activity... |
| 02:20:45 | TrueJournals | everything seems to be responding WAY slower... |
| 02:21:08 | TrueJournals | it's taking quite a while to boot up... |
| 02:21:31 | TrueJournals | but, the resetting bug was solved... so it seems to be something with ipod_set_cpu_frequency |
| 02:21:44 | Soul-Slayer | I must leave. Best of luck with the KoCOP and Rockboy Barry and True. |
| 02:21:56 | barrywardell | bye Soul-Slayer |
| 02:22:02 | TrueJournals | see ya |
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| 02:22:31 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: it's probably running at a slow cpu frequency now |
| 02:22:40 | TrueJournals | I would say so :-p |
| 02:22:53 | TrueJournals | it's actually loading rockboy right now... |
| 02:22:59 | TrueJournals | and loading... |
| 02:23:26 | barrywardell | i had some success when i wrote my own ipod_set_cpu_frequency based of my cpufreq4 patch |
| 02:25:10 | TrueJournals | there was somewhere in debug where I'm able to specify CPU boosting.. where is that? |
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| 02:26:44 | TrueJournals | If I go to debug −−> View HW info, it just shows a blank screen. Is that supposed to happen? |
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| 02:27:46 | barrywardell | TrueJournals: i only gives the option to boost when frequency scaling is enabled |
| 02:27:58 | TrueJournals | ah |
| 02:28:07 | barrywardell | here's the version of ipod_set_cpu_frequency() that worked for me before: http://pastebin.ca/333681 |
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| 02:28:24 | TrueJournals | thanks... I'll try that |
| 02:28:33 | barrywardell | you could try using it and putting the call back into system_init() |
| 02:29:19 | TrueJournals | I'll try... |
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| 02:34:24 | TrueJournals | ok... rebuilding... |
| 02:34:58 | TrueJournals | system.c: In function 'ipod_set_cpu_frequency': |
| 02:34:58 | TrueJournals | system.c:774: error: 'PLL_CONTROL' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:34:58 | TrueJournals | system.c:774: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
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| 02:34:58 | TrueJournals | system.c:774: error: for each function it appears in.) |
| 02:34:58 | TrueJournals | system.c:789: error: 'CLK_SRC' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:34:59 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 02:34:59 | TrueJournals | system.c:789: error: 'CLK_SRC_24MHZ' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:35:01 | *** | Alert Mode level 2 |
| 02:35:01 | TrueJournals | system.c:839: error: 'CLK_SRC_PLL' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 02:35:03 | TrueJournals | make[1]: *** [/home/user/rockbox-20070128/h10-build/firmware/system.o] Error 1 |
| 02:35:05 | TrueJournals | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 02:35:31 | barrywardell | ah, ok. you need a bit more. hang on a sec... |
| 02:35:42 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 02:37:11 | barrywardell | http://pastebin.ca/333695 |
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| 02:37:34 | barrywardell | i'm not sure if that patch will apply cleanly, but it should be easy to resolve any conflits |
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| 02:37:38 | barrywardell | conflicts |
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| 02:37:52 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 02:40:51 | TrueJournals | applied cleanly actually... except for the COP_HI_INT_STAT stuff which was already in there :-p |
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| 02:41:04 | barrywardell | cool |
| 02:41:10 | TrueJournals | ok, now it's working... |
| 02:41:24 | TrueJournals | (well, it's building) |
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| 02:47:54 | TrueJournals | building is a bit slow right now... |
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| 02:49:32 | bospaadje | i applied this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199 (fix-lcdshutdown3.patch) to the current build, it produces the error: |
| 02:49:55 | bospaadje | /home/rick/tijdelijk/rockbox-bleeding/build/librockbox.a(powermgmt.o): In function `shutdown_hw': |
| 02:49:55 | bospaadje | powermgmt.c:(.text.shutdown_hw+0x138): undefined reference to `lcd_shutdown' |
| 02:49:55 | bospaadje | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 02:50:41 | Mikachu | do you have an ipod mini 2g? |
| 02:50:50 | bospaadje | nope, ipod nano |
| 02:50:55 | bospaadje | but i have the same problem |
| 02:51:03 | Mikachu | well, then that patch isn't for you |
| 02:51:10 | Mikachu | it's a completely different lcd driver |
| 02:51:58 | bospaadje | I was hoping it would work for ipod nano as well (as was the author of the patch apparently) |
| 02:53:02 | Mikachu | well, it obviously won't work for ipod nano since the code he changed isn't even compiled for the nano :) |
| 02:53:24 | bospaadje | uh, his latest version does |
| 02:54:01 | bospaadje | "#if defined(IPOD_MINI) || defined(IPOD_MINI2G) || defined(IPOD_COLOR) || define |
| 02:54:02 | bospaadje | d(IPOD_NANO) || defined(IPOD_3G) || defined(IPOD_4G)" |
| 02:54:10 | Mikachu | no, it doenst |
| 02:54:17 | Mikachu | that ifdef is incorrect |
| 02:54:35 | Mikachu | he probably didn't notice that lcd-ipod.c has two parts, one for bw and one for color ipods |
| 02:55:03 | bospaadje | oh, so that's why it has an undefined reference |
| 02:55:10 | bospaadje | makes sense |
| 02:55:18 | Mikachu | and the colors has a completely different chip, so the same code will most likely not work there |
| 02:56:15 | bospaadje | :( |
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| 02:58:31 | bospaadje | I'll comment on the bug report mentioned above, hopefully someone will look into it |
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| 03:00:34 | TrueJournals | barrywardell: I just got the new version onto my h10, but it still seems slow... |
| 03:00:51 | TrueJournals | do I need to recompile the bootloader too? |
| 03:01:44 | barrywardell | possibly. it's worth a try. it could be that there is something in the playback.c changes either |
| 03:02:08 | TrueJournals | ok, let me do that.. |
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| 03:05:08 | bospaadje | Mikachu, thanks for the help |
| 03:05:12 | bospaadje | I'm off to sleep |
| 03:10:06 | TrueJournals | baryywardell: booting with new bootloader... and it still seems slow... |
| 03:10:34 | TrueJournals | yup, still slow, and harddrive activity icon is still like eternally on |
| 03:11:48 | TrueJournals | I gotta go right now... I'll be back in like 10 - 20 minutes |
| 03:11:52 | barrywardell | hmmm. is it only slow while reading from disk? |
| 03:12:02 | barrywardell | i'm off to sleep now |
| 03:12:11 | barrywardell | let me know if you discover anything else |
| 03:12:13 | TrueJournals | it's slow when doing everything |
| 03:12:15 | TrueJournals | ok |
| 03:12:18 | TrueJournals | see ya |
| 03:12:21 | barrywardell | bye |
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| 03:24:00 | perldiver | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6326 |
| 03:24:07 | perldiver | i concur |
| 03:24:19 | perldiver | there's an "artifact" |
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| 03:33:35 | bospaadje | hmm mpegplayerplugin works, but after some time (i'd guess about 3 mins), the audio stops, and it doesn't respond to anything but menu+select reboot. the video keeps playing though. |
| 03:34:26 | bospaadje | whatever.. need sleep |
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| 03:37:43 | adam1302 | hi does anyone know where i can download the rockboy plugin for my sansa |
| 03:37:45 | sonnybobiche | umm rockbox on my video ipod keeps freezing and not responding to control for hours. i cant even turn it off |
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| 03:38:22 | sonnybobiche | but it keeps playing music |
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| 03:39:21 | sonnybobiche | like... i can get the backlight to turn on... but i can't change the volume or skip tracks or anything like that |
| 03:39:26 | sonnybobiche | screen doesnt update |
| 03:39:40 | sonnybobiche | been happening for several builds now |
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| 03:42:39 | adam1302 | does anyone know where i can download the rockboy plugin for my sansa |
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| 03:43:11 | TrueJournals | I don't think they've ported it to sansa yet |
| 03:43:21 | TrueJournals | so you can't get it... if you could, it would come with rockbox |
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| 03:44:51 | TrueJournals | although, since there's not even audio support on the sansa port... I don't see why you'd want rockbox on it at this point... |
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| 03:47:52 | TrueJournals | your welcome... |
| 03:47:59 | TrueJournals | *you're... |
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| 03:51:54 | deejay-fuzion | hey |
| 03:51:58 | deejay-fuzion | truejournals |
| 03:51:59 | deejay-fuzion | there? |
| 03:52:14 | TrueJournals | hey |
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| 03:52:25 | TrueJournals | yeah, sorry, wasn't watching the window :-p |
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| 03:52:41 | deejay-fuzion | np |
| 03:52:46 | deejay-fuzion | read PM |
| 03:53:14 | TrueJournals | didn't get a PM... O_o |
| 03:54:02 | scorche | you have to be registered with nickserv to send a pm |
| 03:54:07 | deejay-fuzion | ok |
| 03:54:11 | scorche | unless the person you sent it to allows it |
| 03:54:11 | deejay-fuzion | now read o_O |
| 03:54:17 | scorche | which is not the default |
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| 03:54:20 | deejay-fuzion | ohh |
| 03:54:31 | TrueJournals | how do I change my setting then? |
| 03:54:41 | TrueJournals | ah, got it |
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| 04:31:50 | maretard | yo truejournals |
| 04:31:52 | maretard | you there? |
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| 04:32:22 | TrueJournals | yeah, I |
| 04:32:27 | TrueJournals | *I'm here |
| 04:32:52 | maretard | uh yeah |
| 04:32:58 | maretard | that zip file was corrupted |
| 04:32:58 | thanatonaute | Hi. I bricked my Sansa e200 after installing hebrew beta, and am trying to Mr. H's e200 tools under Ubuntu |
| 04:33:04 | maretard | NICE! :D |
| 04:33:14 | TrueJournals | hm... the whole zip file, or the rockbox.zip? |
| 04:33:19 | maretard | anyway, that zip file was corrupted, i could extract the big file but the zip file inside the zip file was corrupted |
| 04:33:21 | maretard | rockbox.zip |
| 04:33:33 | TrueJournals | hold on a second... |
| 04:33:34 | thanatonaute | I am using "gcc -o e200tool e200tool.c -lusb" to compile using the latest release of the source, but it won't compile :( |
| 04:33:39 | maretard | kk |
| 04:34:16 | TrueJournals | hmm.. you're right |
| 04:34:20 | maretard | yep ^_^ |
| 04:34:24 | maretard | unexpected end of archive |
| 04:34:29 | TrueJournals | unfortunately... I have to go right now so I can't get you a good version |
| 04:34:34 | TrueJournals | well... maybe I can |
| 04:34:34 | maretard | cool, s'all good |
| 04:34:37 | maretard | o_O? |
| 04:34:49 | TrueJournals | *goes as fast as I can...* |
| 04:34:52 | maretard | it's okay, take your time, i won't die without video hahahahaaha |
| 04:34:56 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 04:35:07 | thanatonaute | Is there a tutorial on using e200tools to unbrick Sansa e200? THANKS. |
| 04:35:34 | TrueJournals | sorry, don't know about the sansa port :-\ |
| 04:38:11 | thanatonaute | ah.. thanks :) |
| 04:38:21 | maretard | np ^_^ |
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| 04:40:26 | TrueJournals | OK, uploading GOOD rockbox.zip |
| 04:41:07 | TrueJournals | http://rapidshare.com/files/14190353/rockbox.zip - try that |
| 04:41:21 | maretard | ah sweet |
| 04:41:21 | maretard | h/o |
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| 04:41:43 | maretard | agh i hate the 30 second wait T_T |
| 04:41:45 | maretard | * grumbles * :D |
| 04:41:54 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 04:42:47 | TrueJournals | OK, well, now I gotta go |
| 04:42:57 | TrueJournals | I was just able to extract the file though, so you should have no problem |
| 04:42:58 | TrueJournals | see ya |
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| 04:43:04 | maretard | cool |
| 04:43:07 | maretard | thanks man |
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| 04:51:54 | G|iTch_ | i have a question for the gigabeat users |
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| 04:53:14 | GliTch_ | just loaded rb and it comes up to a screen that says "hold menu when booting for rescue mode" is rb loaded and what do i need to do next or did i screw up? |
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| 04:53:53 | GliTch_ | i have a question for the gigabeat users |
| 04:53:55 | GliTch_ | just loaded rb and it comes up to a screen that says "hold menu when booting for rescue mode" is rb loaded and what do i need to do next or did i screw up? |
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| 04:54:38 | GliTch_ | at the bottom it says rockbox error -1 |
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| 05:00:48 | sonnybobiche | guess you didnt extract the actual rockbox files to ur gigabeat |
| 05:01:10 | sonnybobiche | read the beginning part of the manual |
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| 06:08:24 | daurnimator | JdGordon: ping |
| 06:12:56 | KCC | daurnimator: pong |
| 06:13:11 | daurnimator | ? |
| 06:13:25 | KCC | =oD |
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| 06:45:53 | daurnimator | JdGordon: ping! |
| 06:46:50 | midkay | oh, me too: JdGordon, wake up. |
| 06:47:55 | JdGordon | hey |
| 06:48:05 | JdGordon | midkay: wake up? its 5pm here :p |
| 06:48:22 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 06:48:22 | * | JdGordon needs a better irc client than gaim |
| 06:48:25 | midkay | JdGordon: haha. |
| 06:48:32 | midkay | JdGordon: something i need to bug you about.. |
| 06:48:40 | JdGordon | shooot |
| 06:48:48 | midkay | since your cfg-file-instead-of-cfg-sector change, my hardware EQ crap is no longer saved. |
| 06:49:07 | JdGordon | oh? |
| 06:49:08 | midkay | and i have to reload a config manually to get it to go into effect, temporarily. i could fix this i guess, with fixed.cfg, but.. it's a bug nevertheless. |
| 06:49:20 | midkay | i guess you just overlooked it? |
| 06:50:29 | JdGordon | which settings? |
| 06:51:10 | midkay | all the hardware eq ones. |
| 06:51:19 | midkay | gain, cutoff.. |
| 06:51:44 | JdGordon | software eqs save ok tho? |
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| 06:52:46 | midkay | i haven't tried. |
| 06:52:48 | midkay | i don't use it. |
| 06:52:58 | midkay | hardware eq is the same thing, but doesn't suck CPU. :) |
| 06:53:05 | JdGordon | hmm.... ok they apear to save coreclty here... so tey must work |
| 06:53:08 | JdGordon | hw eq tho.... |
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| 06:53:37 | JdGordon | unless #ifdef HAVE_WM8758 is wrong? |
| 06:53:46 | JdGordon | I dont see why they wouldnt work |
| 06:53:53 | JdGordon | ... mean from a quick glance |
| 06:53:59 | midkay | that seems wrong... |
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| 06:54:07 | midkay | hw eq only works on 5G as far as i know. |
| 06:54:16 | midkay | isn't that ifdef for an archos chip? |
| 06:54:48 | midkay | oh, that is right. |
| 06:54:49 | khalsa | anyone here willing to (privatly) help me with h10 non-rockbox related issues? |
| 06:54:50 | JdGordon | no... the wm is definatly right.... dunno if that is the right version tho |
| 06:55:05 | midkay | 8758 is right.. |
| 06:55:16 | midkay | http://www.rockbox.org/since25.html |
| 06:55:21 | midkay | 14 Aug 2006 10:52 |
| 06:55:58 | JdGordon | are the settings written to the config file wrongly? or not at all? |
| 06:56:03 | midkay | i mean.. you know what i'm saying, right? they aren't actually *saved* to the config file. they were saved to the config sector when it existed. |
| 06:56:22 | midkay | they load and work fine from an alternate cfg file, but they just aren't saved correctly (at all?) |
| 06:56:32 | midkay | .. in the new config file loaded at startup. |
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| 06:57:29 | midkay | hm. |
| 06:57:40 | midkay | looks to me like perhaps the gain settings are not saved, but the cutoffs are. |
| 06:59:41 | JdGordon | HA! found the possible problem |
| 06:59:47 | JdGordon | full of typos :p |
| 06:59:54 | midkay | haha. |
| 06:59:57 | JdGordon | serves me right for coding after midnight i guess |
| 06:59:57 | midkay | you clumsy. |
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| 07:00:03 | JdGordon | copy/paste errors |
| 07:00:04 | JdGordon | yeah |
| 07:00:07 | midkay | better run a spellcheck on the entire source.. :) |
| 07:00:25 | JdGordon | hehe na there is 0's instead of 4 and 3 |
| 07:00:29 | JdGordon | ill fix that now |
| 07:00:45 | midkay | cool, then i can test it. |
| 07:00:48 | JdGordon | only 3 mistakes |
| 07:02:03 | JdGordon | midkay: you want a patch? |
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| 07:02:55 | midkay | you can just commit it if you want. |
| 07:03:41 | JdGordon | I could... but if it doesnt fix all the problems there isnt any point |
| 07:03:52 | midkay | it |
| 07:03:53 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/hweqfix.patch">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/hweqfix.patch |
| 07:03:59 | midkay | it'll surely fix one, right? :) |
| 07:04:02 | midkay | *sighs* ALRIGHT alright!!! |
| 07:04:19 | JdGordon | hopefully :p |
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| 07:08:15 | midkay | erm. |
| 07:08:27 | JdGordon | no good? |
| 07:08:38 | midkay | oh, ok, never mind. |
| 07:08:48 | midkay | out of date revision i'm working with. |
| 07:09:13 | JdGordon | the first 2 changes are probably bad.... |
| 07:09:30 | JdGordon | yeah, remove the first section from the patch or it might not work correctly |
| 07:10:19 | midkay | my current revision of settings_list has like 550 lines.. the latest has like 700. |
| 07:10:47 | midkay | k, *tests* |
| 07:12:03 | midkay | works! |
| 07:12:08 | midkay | thanks. |
| 07:12:38 | JdGordon | great |
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| 07:31:30 | JdGordon | ta |
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| 08:09:17 | JdGordon | did my commit get lost on the way or something? |
| 08:10:29 | JdGordon | grr.... local source out of date :p |
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| 08:38:54 | webguest20 | Hi. What would you think about the following. There is the region setting for FM radio. What if we could put that setting into fmr-files? And it would be set if the file is loaded? Then the files would be self consistent. Like WPS files where it's possible to switch the status bar on or off. |
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| 08:53:39 | rp- | dan_a: are you there? |
| 08:57:29 | Bagder | we advance to the next level of realllly low level e200 hacks now |
| 08:57:56 | Bagder | upcoming post in the "bricked e200" thread... |
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| 09:02:10 | JdGordon | its actually been bricked? |
| 09:02:31 | rp- | great Bagder, time to write a how to for all those "i can brick my sansa" guys :) |
| 09:02:36 | Bagder | well, "bricked" is a bit of a gray area on the sansa |
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| 09:03:13 | Bagder | many sansas have been "bricked" but they guys never actually try to recover |
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| 09:03:26 | decayedcell | i have a question about the bootloader - what does it look for to boot into iPL |
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| 09:04:20 | Bagder | isn't that mentioned in the manual? |
| 09:04:37 | decayedcell | I'll have a look |
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| 09:06:12 | amiconn | Whoah, this sansa is a strange device... |
| 09:06:26 | decayedcell | 9.4. Firmware Loading |
| 09:06:26 | decayedcell | 9.4.1. Using ROLO (Rockbox loader) |
| 09:06:26 | decayedcell | Rockbox is able to load and start another firmware file without rebooting. You just “play†a file with the extension .ipod. This can be used to test new firmware versions without deleting your current version. |
| 09:06:36 | amiconn | All those pre/extra/recovery/special modes... and still brickable |
| 09:06:44 | decayedcell | that section doesn't mention iPL at all |
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| 09:09:16 | amiconn | Afaik the sansas are the only rockbox targets with reported bricks... am I wrong? |
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| 09:09:30 | Bagder | I think you're right |
| 09:09:58 | amiconn | Hmm, perhaps this one archos with broken flash rom must be counted as well |
| 09:10:46 | rp- | but it's weird how many users managed to "brick" their sansa |
| 09:10:54 | Bagder | indeed |
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| 09:11:07 | Bagder | I find it amusing that the sansa has no less than _four_ usb modes |
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| 09:11:33 | rp- | four? recovery, manufacture, normal( mtp, msc) ? |
| 09:11:49 | rp- | did i miss one? |
| 09:11:49 | Bagder | the one I just posted about is pre-manufacturing mode |
| 09:12:06 | rp- | haha know i got it :) |
| 09:12:06 | Bagder | so its pre, manu, recovery, normal |
| 09:12:13 | rp- | crazy |
| 09:12:39 | Bagder | odd design |
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| 09:13:07 | rp- | do you know if it's the same on the c200 series? |
| 09:13:16 | Bagder | no, but it seems likely |
| 09:13:35 | dan_a | rp-: I'm here now! |
| 09:14:06 | rp- | dan_a: fine, did you read the sansa port thread? |
| 09:14:18 | webguest20 | Any comments on the idea about the fmr files (see above)? Has it been discussed before? |
| 09:14:36 | dan_a | rp-: I'm just having a look |
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| 09:16:29 | rp- | dan_a: because i tested some things and wrote a debugfile in the power_off() function, and it worked |
| 09:17:37 | dan_a | Nice :D I tried using the emulator results to read the battery level, but all that did was mess the screen up |
| 09:18:19 | decayedcell_ | is it just me or are the forums not loading |
| 09:18:27 | decayedcell_ | nevermind |
| 09:18:54 | rp- | dan_a: but why would the i2c functions not work in the power_off()? |
| 09:18:56 | GodEater | decayedcell: they're always slow this time of day |
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| 09:20:07 | dan_a | rp-: I don't know - Toni says that the power_off() function is never reached |
| 09:21:07 | rp- | dan_a: hm i can't confirm that, in my tests it got called when i hold the power off button |
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| 09:21:43 | rp- | dan_a: can you try the code from toni? |
| 09:21:54 | dan_a | I'll have a play with that this evening and see if I can get it working correctly. |
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| 09:25:56 | rp- | i'll try too, when i'm at home |
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| 09:29:26 | rp- | now i'm interested if i can find some backlight code in the BL firmware or i have to disassemble the original firmwar :/ |
| 09:30:47 | dan_a | I don't remember the bootloader turning off the backlight - however MrH says that it does check if it is on. |
| 09:31:46 | webguest20 | Hmm... Nobody who travels lot listens to the radio. Ok, forget the idea. |
| 09:32:06 | webguest20 | Or I'll make a patch. That's probably the best idea :-) |
| 09:32:28 | LinusN | webguest20: now we're talking |
| 09:32:30 | rp- | i will look at it, i can also try to find out how to read out the battery, i remember some string "Battery is low" in the BL |
| 09:32:57 | dan_a | webguest20: Making a patch would be a good idea - the only targets which I have with a radio can't use it yet! |
| 09:33:59 | dan_a | rp-: If you have a look at the Sansa emulator in Flyspray, there is a file consisting of the reads and writes done to read the battery level |
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| 09:34:16 | webguest20 | LinusN: you mean you like the patch idea? But would be useful in your opinion? |
| 09:34:32 | webguest20 | would *it* be |
| 09:34:37 | rp- | how does the emulator work? didn't try it yet, can it boot the original firmware? |
| 09:34:46 | GodEater | webguest20: most patches start off by being useful to just one person - the person that writes them :) |
| 09:35:15 | dan_a | rp-: It can't boot the original firmware yet, but it can run the Sansa bootloader IIUC |
| 09:35:36 | webguest20 | GodEater: but if there's little to no chance for it to get committed I wouldn't bother |
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| 09:35:57 | dan_a | rp-: FS #6524 |
| 09:36:03 | rp- | dan_a: very nice, thx |
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| 09:36:42 | LinusN | webguest20: your idea is to be able to set the fm region in .fmr files? |
| 09:37:04 | webguest20 | LinusN: yes. Like status bar in WPS |
| 09:37:19 | LinusN | sounds like a pretty useful thing to me |
| 09:37:35 | * | dan_a goes to work |
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| 09:37:47 | JdGordon | last time you said that it got removed shortly after commiting :D |
| 09:37:51 | LinusN | makes the fmr files self-contained |
| 09:37:54 | JdGordon | @ LinusN :p |
| 09:37:57 | LinusN | JdGordon: haha |
| 09:38:04 | webguest20 | LinusN: I'm not sure whether it's really useful (who travels that much?) but logical it is (IMHO) |
| 09:38:18 | JdGordon | shouldnt be too hard to add |
| 09:38:42 | perplexity | Actually, I travel that much. I'd just never used the radio anywhere other than home coz it was always a pita |
| 09:38:46 | pondlife | LinusN: Finally we meet!! Could you take a quick look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4770#comment12612 |
| 09:39:21 | pondlife | Basically the questions are (1) should the H300 be drawing 500mA when USB charging |
| 09:39:44 | pondlife | (2) Is the reported current in Windows 2000 wrong? |
| 09:39:55 | webguest20 | Well, that regional setting is not very relevant, the entries in the fmr file are. So the benefit won't be very great. But still... That setting belongs there IMHO |
| 09:40:20 | LinusN | pondlife: it should draw 500mA in "hub mode", iirc |
| 09:41:10 | pondlife | So 100mA charging is expected in Rockbox, based on our current (aha!) knowledge? |
| 09:41:28 | pondlife | If so, I will commit this |
| 09:42:47 | pondlife | Also, it seem that http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PortPinAssignments#PCF50606_GPO is wrong - as per Massa's comment. Do you agree? |
| 09:43:15 | pondlife | i.e. GPOOD2 is USB charge enable, not GPOOD0 |
| 09:43:45 | pondlife | If so, do we know what GPOOD0 does? |
| 09:44:09 | webguest20 | perplexity: why is this a pita for you? Too much trouble to swith the fmr? Or what? |
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| 09:44:52 | webguest20 | s/swith/switch/ |
| 09:45:16 | perplexity | yeah, to be honest I just had issues shuffling things around every time I got off a plane. it's been so long since I played with it now I'm every rusty on the specifics. I just gave up on radio when I was not home. |
| 09:45:38 | perplexity | I'll sit down tomorrow and actually refresh myself on what I found was such a pain |
| 09:46:18 | tucoz | linuxstb: i saw that IPL infor is missing in the manual. The question is, should this be mentioned? I think it should, if it is not too hard to keep track of ipod linux changes. |
| 09:47:15 | tucoz | i think it would be a nice addition to describe how to use the rockbox bootloader for triple booting (rockbox, ipl, of) |
| 09:47:35 | webguest20 | perplexity: then... until then! |
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| 09:47:53 | LinusN | pondlife: another question is where the uda1380 reset is connected |
| 09:48:15 | pondlife | Indeed. Did you do the original pin traces? |
| 09:48:27 | LinusN | yes i did |
| 09:48:54 | pondlife | I did some software poking at GPOOD0, but it didn't produce any obvious effects! |
| 09:49:20 | * | pondlife kept an eye on his H340 for smoke. |
| 09:49:56 | tucoz | LinusN: i think the high pitched buzzing is back in Slasheris bootloader for the h120 |
| 09:51:15 | LinusN | tucoz: oh |
| 09:51:16 | tucoz | the occasional buzzing that is. as the fw is flashed, it only last for maybe half a second. |
| 09:52:01 | tucoz | i have noticed it two times lately, and this was after i installed the newest bootlader |
| 09:53:30 | tucoz | I remember you fixed that, some time in the summer in 2005. |
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| 09:54:53 | LinusN | pondlife: my understanding is that you don't enable charging, but you instead set the allowed current draw (hi/low) |
| 09:55:29 | Slasheri | tucoz: hmm, buzzing.. what do you mean with that? |
| 09:56:13 | LinusN | the buzzing i fixed came from resetting the UDA1380 |
| 09:56:18 | pondlife | All I can say is that GPOOD2 seems to control the charging, and that Win2K reports 100mA current draw with either setting. |
| 09:56:45 | Slasheri | ah, weird.. then that might be an issue, iirc when loading ram/rom image, uda is not reset |
| 09:57:39 | pondlife | With pcf50606_write(0x39, 0x00) the reported battery % increases during connection, without it does not (or does slowly, maybe) |
| 09:57:50 | Slasheri | but rely on rockbox doing the reset |
| 09:59:20 | LinusN | pondlife: i'll see if i can find the time to do a trace later tiday |
| 09:59:22 | LinusN | today |
| 09:59:26 | pondlife | Great |
| 09:59:45 | tucoz | Slasheri: the issue was only on some h120's, and LinusN fixed it some time during the summer of 2005. |
| 09:59:49 | pondlife | I'll keep an eye on the wiki |
| 09:59:55 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html#usbmodes |
| 10:00 |
| 10:00:11 | * | Bagder tries to sum up the weirdness |
| 10:00:22 | LinusN | tucoz: i wonder if those h120's also have the loud ticking issue... |
| 10:00:37 | tucoz | Could i check that somehow? |
| 10:01:23 | pondlife | Bagder: Hmm, so the Euro Sansa DOES have an FM tuner! |
| 10:01:26 | tucoz | That is with the remote right? |
| 10:01:30 | pondlife | I missed that. |
| 10:01:42 | pondlife | E200 is back on my list then |
| 10:01:46 | Bagder | pondlife: claimed by my contact yes, contradicted by others |
| 10:01:47 | LinusN | tucoz: yes |
| 10:02:04 | LinusN | Bagder: could be both :-) |
| 10:02:15 | Bagder | yes, it might differ |
| 10:02:20 | * | tucoz makes a mental note that he should try to find the old remote when he gets home |
| 10:02:22 | LinusN | "yes, we disable it in software, because the chip isn't mounted" |
| 10:02:30 | Bagder | hehe |
| 10:02:35 | pondlife | Or maybe some Euro ones are actually leftovers from elsewhere? |
| 10:02:43 | Bagder | I actually asked specificly if the hw was different |
| 10:02:52 | * | LinusN recalls the Archos FM/V2 story |
| 10:02:54 | pondlife | So most have no chip, but occasionally one will have. |
| 10:03:06 | Bagder | yes I figure that might be the case |
| 10:03:06 | * | pondlife reminisces |
| 10:03:12 | Bagder | perhaps the first euro ones had the chip |
| 10:03:17 | directhex|work | i've ordered my new portable player |
| 10:03:28 | LinusN | Bagder: like the archos v2 |
| 10:03:34 | Bagder | yah |
| 10:03:50 | markun | directhex|work: so, which one is it? |
| 10:04:26 | directhex|work | markun, a gigabeat f40 |
| 10:04:36 | markun | nice |
| 10:04:38 | pondlife | Can anyone describe how the Gigabeat F control works? It looks like 2 touch sliders; isn't that a bit odd to use? |
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| 10:05:09 | markun | pondlife: worked quite well in the OF |
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| 10:05:20 | directhex|work | pondlife, haven't the faintest idea. someone just recommended the gigabeat as the best rockbox platform |
| 10:05:28 | pondlife | Certainly the best CPU. |
| 10:05:46 | markun | but we just use it as a 4 direction joystick with 'select' in the middle |
| 10:05:46 | directhex|work | battery life seems good, and i like the screen |
| 10:05:48 | bluebrother | Bagder: looks like the manual builds are broken −− the timestamp shown is of yesterday |
| 10:06:05 | Bagder | bluebrother: prolly the iconv thing... |
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| 10:06:25 | tucoz | bluebrother: what would it take to convert the manual to utf8? |
| 10:06:35 | rp- | is usb msc mode implemented in some PP target? |
| 10:06:43 | bluebrother | first, make sure utf8 support is installed on all manual build machines |
| 10:06:52 | Bagder | rp-: nope |
| 10:07:06 | bluebrother | second, change the inputenc line in the preamble to use utf8x instead of latin1 |
| 10:07:15 | Bagder | rp-: but Barry has started on it a bit |
| 10:07:21 | bluebrother | and last, remove the iconv call from the makefile |
| 10:07:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 10:07:38 | bluebrother | the main issue is that utf8 support isn't part of a standard latex installation |
| 10:07:38 | Bagder | rp-: since we know from where to get "inspiration" for it (i.MX) |
| 10:07:55 | tucoz | could we add the package to the source tree? |
| 10:07:57 | bluebrother | and, afaik, it is not only a style file we could simply ship with the sources |
| 10:08:00 | LinusN | bluebrother: what do i have to apt-get? |
| 10:08:10 | rp- | Bagder: ok thx, would be the next nice think to have on the sansa |
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| 10:08:24 | bluebrother | LinusN: sorry, no idea. I |
| 10:08:29 | Bagder | rp-: indeed, and it is probably the very same for all PP targets |
| 10:08:30 | bluebrother | I'm a Fedora guy ;-) |
| 10:08:39 | pondlife | Hmm, GodEater's build machine suffers from the same (?) gcc problem as lostlogic's... |
| 10:08:45 | directhex|work | oh, is speex supported as well as vorbis? |
| 10:09:21 | Bagder | no |
| 10:09:45 | bluebrother | fedora has a package called tetex-unicode |
| 10:09:45 | Bagder | directhex|work: I believe there's speex codec in the works in the patch tracker |
| 10:10:41 | bluebrother | hmm. Just looked in the unicode package page again |
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| 10:11:27 | bluebrother | maybe we could put the files into the source tree |
| 10:11:40 | bluebrother | tucoz: can you test that out? |
| 10:12:04 | bluebrother | http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ucs/INSTALL |
| 10:12:45 | bluebrother | seems I remembered the installation stuff wrongly |
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| 10:13:25 | tucoz | no, i am not at home right now |
| 10:13:50 | tucoz | i can try it out this evening |
| 10:14:00 | tucoz | btw, VirtualBox works great |
| 10:14:17 | tucoz | feels really snappy. |
| 10:15:50 | GodEater | pondlife: yes it does - and until gentoo fix their GCC build - there's nothing I can do about it |
| 10:16:05 | bluebrother | did you manage to use the shard folder thing on VirtualBox? |
| 10:16:24 | LinusN | iconv: illegal input sequence at position 6664 |
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| 10:17:44 | pondlife | GodEater: Sorry, was just noticing - thought this might become a more widespread issue :( |
| 10:18:19 | pondlife | It only affects the sim builds, right? |
| 10:18:39 | pondlife | Maybe a nasty hack to the build system to mark some servers as non-sim only? |
| 10:19:02 | LinusN | no nastyness needed |
| 10:19:17 | LinusN | we have support for that |
| 10:19:26 | tucoz | bluebrother: i haven't tried |
| 10:19:32 | tucoz | bbl |
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| 10:20:05 | GodEater | pondlife: no problem - it's just I don't intend to replace my native gcc with one from outside the portage tree |
| 10:20:13 | GodEater | and yes it only affects the sim builds |
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| 10:20:30 | pondlife | So if you're fed more non-sim and less sim builds, we can all be happy |
| 10:20:51 | GodEater | if the yellow in the build table bothers you that much - then yes ;) |
| 10:21:08 | LinusN | let's ban all gentoo servers :-) |
| 10:21:17 | Bagder | actually, all the red build bother me a whole lot more |
| 10:21:21 | Bagder | builds |
| 10:21:22 | pondlife | Me too |
| 10:21:28 | LinusN | and amiconn :-) |
| 10:21:28 | pondlife | I remember the days of ALL GREEN |
| 10:21:30 | Bagder | and I mostly blame amiconn ;-) |
| 10:21:46 | Bagder | I want those builds disabled or stripped |
| 10:21:49 | JdGordon | why not disable sim builds for the naughty servers? |
| 10:21:55 | LinusN | speaking of that, how's the langv2 patch these days? |
| 10:22:00 | JdGordon | you want my server for suim builds? |
| 10:22:54 | LinusN | all your servers are belong to us |
| 10:24:41 | Bagder | we could even re-introduced the nasty cpp hack to fix the warnings |
| 10:25:04 | Bagder | it would of course need to be even hairer to properly detect the gcc versions |
| 10:25:30 | Bagder | hairy hairyer ? |
| 10:25:37 | pondlife | Anyone know if the langv2 patch going to fix the red builds, or is there still further work there? |
| 10:25:41 | LinusN | Bagder: :-) |
| 10:25:42 | Bagder | tricky word ;-) |
| 10:25:44 | JdGordon | can you build a gcc for 32bit x86 on 64bitx86? |
| 10:25:45 | bluebrother | hmm, seems I got utf8 working here. Now something different is breaking :-/ |
| 10:25:56 | LinusN | bluebrother: lovely :-) |
| 10:26:20 | bluebrother | looks like I'll need to uninstall the unicode stuff at home tonight to test it. |
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| 10:26:40 | Bagder | pondlife: even it it would fix the current reds, it would only be a tiny matter of time before they break again |
| 10:27:04 | Bagder | there's no future in craming everything in on the archos flashes |
| 10:27:12 | LinusN | Bagder: amen to that |
| 10:27:21 | Bagder | it is only amiconn who thinks that |
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| 10:28:18 | Bagder | so the question is, would archos users still like to flash rockbox? if so, we need to make feature-stripped one for flash |
| 10:28:34 | Bagder | i.e a different build |
| 10:28:35 | amiconn | It's still possible to flash rockbox |
| 10:28:36 | pondlife | Didn't tagcache/database already get stripped from rombox? |
| 10:28:57 | amiconn | I see no point in stripping down rockbox in order to make rombox fit |
| 10:29:04 | JdGordon | can we do a few different builds (weekly) for rombox so people who want different stuff excluded can still be happy? |
| 10:29:13 | Bagder | amiconn: then we stop building it? |
| 10:29:40 | amiconn | Either it fits as-is, or it doesn't |
| 10:29:51 | amiconn | But I still think that it's possible to make it fit |
| 10:29:54 | Bagder | and it doesn't... |
| 10:30:01 | LinusN | amiconn: ...for now... |
| 10:30:49 | Bagder | and clearly it being "possible" still has left the red builds in there for ages |
| 10:31:13 | Bagder | since obviously not many care |
| 10:31:27 | JdGordon | ... or just stop it making the table red on rombox failure? |
| 10:31:42 | Bagder | then what would the point be to build it? |
| 10:31:49 | amiconn | [IDC]Dragon does, and he has a stripped-down bootbox, which just needs to be committed |
| 10:32:14 | Bagder | I thought you just said a stripped-down version was pointless? |
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| 10:32:25 | LinusN | Bagder: of *bootbox* |
| 10:32:29 | Bagder | ah |
| 10:32:32 | amiconn | *bootbox*, not rockbox |
| 10:32:34 | * | Bagder gets confused |
| 10:32:43 | LinusN | Bagder: "gets" :-) |
| 10:32:43 | amiconn | And it only strips things not needed in bootbox |
| 10:32:56 | LinusN | Bagder: you have always been confused |
| 10:33:03 | amiconn | I think that keeping down binary size is a good thing in general, not only for archos |
| 10:33:14 | bluebrother | wow. tetex 1.0 installation on my old box. That is _really_ outdated |
| 10:33:21 | Bagder | LinusN: it was from "very confused" down to just "confused" ;-) |
| 10:33:31 | * | amiconn reminds of the iFP build, which has to work with 1MB ran - including codecs... |
| 10:33:44 | Bagder | amiconn: sure, but red builds in the table does not help that |
| 10:33:44 | amiconn | s/ran/ram/ |
| 10:33:48 | scorche | pondlife: no...just added a ifdef for it so it can easiely be taken out |
| 10:34:39 | LinusN | amiconn: the iFP will have to be stripped in many ways |
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| 10:36:21 | LinusN | still, the stripped bootbox together with langv2 will buy us some time |
| 10:36:30 | amiconn | LinusN: Of course, but keeping an eye on efficient coding helps in keeping things that need to be stripped to a minimum |
| 10:36:35 | LinusN | until we hit the barrier again |
| 10:36:58 | amiconn | LinusN: Archos rockbox will have to become a bit more modular in the future, it seems |
| 10:37:05 | perplexity | which reminds me, is it possible to build a h300 bootloader again? last I tried the object was too large |
| 10:37:15 | LinusN | perplexity: i have a patch for that |
| 10:37:31 | amiconn | Some parts have to be taken out of the core (or rather, not introduced in the first place) |
| 10:37:36 | perplexity | cool :) |
| 10:37:53 | amiconn | The pcm codec is one such thing |
| 10:38:40 | LinusN | i'm not holding my breath for the pcm codec |
| 10:40:49 | safetydan | LinusN, still work to do on langv2, just not as much time to work on it |
| 10:41:04 | LinusN | sounds familiar :-) |
| 10:41:18 | safetydan | pondlife, the patch might get recorder under the limit but the other targets will need more work |
| 10:42:05 | * | amiconn is curious how much the settings menu rework will save |
| 10:42:37 | XavierGr | Linus: Do you have any idea why some H300s fail to connect on USB bootloader mode? |
| 10:42:49 | perplexity | ooooo like mine |
| 10:42:52 | pondlife | OK, just wondering |
| 10:43:09 | JdGordon | amiconn: hopefully enough to at least to make rombox build again... |
| 10:43:18 | pondlife | Mine never works in USB bootloader mode |
| 10:43:23 | XavierGr | mine too |
| 10:43:32 | LinusN | XavierGr: not really, but if the theory about GPOOD2 is true, that might be the reason |
| 10:43:40 | pondlife | I was hoping to put some debugging in - normal USB is very reliable. |
| 10:44:28 | * | JdGordon should get coding.. but so cbf tonight :p |
| 10:44:29 | XavierGr | It is just strange why it works on normal mode and not in USB mode |
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| 10:44:45 | XavierGr | (bootloader mode) |
| 10:45:06 | pondlife | Must be some kind of initialisation issue. |
| 10:45:15 | * | JdGordon 's h300 connects maybe 80% of the time... annoying when it just plain refuses to connect |
| 10:45:52 | XavierGr | I want to play with the bootloader but I am way too afraid if I do something stupid |
| 10:45:52 | perplexity | I've not had mine connect ever, no matter what the host machine or OS.. not that it worries me |
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| 10:46:53 | amiconn | LinusN: There's also the emergency park click in H300 bootloader usb mode... |
| 10:47:13 | LinusN | amiconn: could be related |
| 10:47:13 | amiconn | Bootloader usb works everytime for me, but the click is nasty |
| 10:47:39 | JdGordon | and the click on the outputs on bootup |
| 10:49:29 | safetydan | okay, with current svn and the latest langv2 cleanup patch we're 1348 bytes larger than max for recorder builds |
| 10:50:12 | JdGordon | I rekon 1.3kb should be easy to get from the settings rework.... |
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| 10:51:06 | amiconn | safetydan: Please tell me when you're done with the langv2 itself. Need to change talk.c a bit then |
| 10:51:50 | safetydan | will do |
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| 10:53:25 | JdGordon | has any work been done on seeing if speex will work? |
| 10:56:27 | linuxstb | tucoz: I'll try and add something to the manual for booting IPL. I agree we should mention it, but it's really only useful for advanced IPL users - normal users will just use the IPL GUI installer which installs the IPL bootloader (which can also boot Rockbox). |
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| 10:59:13 | safetydan | JdGordon, I think there's a patch in the tracker for that |
| 10:59:14 | Llorean | linuxstb: Should the bootloader look for linux.bin and then linux.ipod when you hold Play, that way you can have a ROLO-able image that'll still work on bootup? |
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| 11:00:13 | LinusN | amiconn: do you think we should adapt dynamically for 1-sector clusters, or just stay with 1-sector caching on the ondio? |
| 11:01:50 | LinusN | (btw, my patch is now capable of the N*M scheme we discussed yesterday |
| 11:01:51 | amiconn | I think we should either stay with 1-sector caching on all targets, or check cluster sizes to decide how many sectors to cache |
| 11:02:07 | amiconn | (1-sector meaning physical ata sectors here) |
| 11:02:19 | amiconn | The 1-sector cluster problem is not limited to the Ondio |
| 11:02:26 | LinusN | true |
| 11:02:44 | LinusN | ok, so we dynamically adapt to the physical sector size then? |
| 11:02:48 | amiconn | (and btw, the duplicated dir entries were not the problem on the internal flahs, in case you didn't analyse the image yet) |
| 11:03:12 | amiconn | I mean, they were not related to the single-sector cluster problem |
| 11:03:14 | webguest61 | i love rockbox :-) |
| 11:03:26 | amiconn | The internal flash has 2K clusters |
| 11:03:28 | webguest61 | to all who have contributed to it, i thank you |
| 11:03:30 | LinusN | webguest61: me too :-) |
| 11:03:50 | webguest61 | much is the pity i'm programming inept so am no assistance whatsoever :-( |
| 11:04:23 | bluebrother | webguest61: feel free to help out with the manual ... |
| 11:04:31 | bluebrother | or with knowledge in the forums |
| 11:04:57 | webguest61 | yes, must help others...... |
| 11:05:04 | webguest61 | must convert them to rockbox...... :-) |
| 11:05:37 | bluebrother | advise them to read the manual ;-) |
| 11:06:09 | webguest61 | manual not good for gigabeat yet. how do i help write it ? |
| 11:06:37 | bluebrother | are you familiar with latex? |
| 11:06:54 | webguest61 | ummm, you getting kinky on me ???? :-P |
| 11:07:09 | bluebrother | no. The manual is written using latex. |
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| 11:07:40 | whotheh3llam1 | ahhhh |
| 11:07:43 | bluebrother | but it's not that hard if you only want to extend / correct existing sections |
| 11:07:53 | amiconn | LinusN: On hdd targets, it might be useful to read sector pairs (of course only when there are no single-sector clusters) on 512 byte physical sector targets |
| 11:07:54 | whotheh3llam1 | how/where ???? |
| 11:08:02 | whotheh3llam1 | do i get started ? |
| 11:08:12 | bluebrother | so the best way to help with it would be working with the latex sources and submit patches |
| 11:08:48 | bluebrother | as a starting point read http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ManualHowto |
| 11:09:16 | whotheh3llam1 | ahhh, just found that :-) |
| 11:09:35 | LinusN | amiconn: yes, it's a performance issue too. however, i have not seen a measurable difference between 1 and 2 sector caching |
| 11:09:45 | amiconn | LinusN: So basically it sounds like an idea to check the cluster size and then cache either 1 or 2 sectors. Should automatically work on the G5.5, because clusters cannot be smaller than sectors |
| 11:10:48 | LinusN | amiconn: yes |
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| 11:15:39 | linuxstb | Llorean: Or when rolo is working 100%, we could just remove IPL support from the bootloader... |
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| 11:34:35 | amiconn | LinusN: Did you find the problem which caused the duplicated entries in the dir list? |
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| 11:35:23 | LinusN | amiconn: it might very well be fixed with my latest patch |
| 11:35:33 | LinusN | wanna try? |
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| 11:39:35 | jhMikeS | LinusN: it fixes the problem when I saw duplicate filenames occasionally in the recordings directory? |
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| 11:41:25 | pondlife | lostlogic: Have a look at the last comments on http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6095 if you get a chance... |
| 11:41:55 | amiconn | LinusN: Can't do that now, but (hopefully) tonight |
| 11:42:05 | pondlife | lostlogic: Oops, I meant http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755#comment12907 |
| 11:42:06 | decayedcell_ | concerning FS6095... I also tested it on my friends 5G Video, appears to work fine |
| 11:42:11 | JdGordon | amiconn: LinusN: did you guys see the message on the mailing list about te changes to the menu code for the new settings stuff? |
| 11:42:36 | amiconn | LinusN: Btw, your old patch (the buggy one) decreased code size on archos (though only a little bit) |
| 11:43:15 | GodEater | LinusN: I'll test yuor patch if you want ? |
| 11:43:26 | amiconn | JdGordon: I agree with Bagder that you use too many macros which purely hide away stuff for no reason. That also goes for the settings list |
| 11:43:42 | amiconn | ...e.g. GS(blah) -> global_settings.blah |
| 11:43:45 | amiconn | why? |
| 11:44:05 | JdGordon | it makes it much easier to read (imo) |
| 11:44:24 | bluebrother | ... and much more complicated for people who haven't written it |
| 11:44:27 | decayedcell_ | pondlife if you revert to one revision before the playback.c mod and patch rockbox with cop 6 you should find that it works properly |
| 11:44:40 | amiconn | For me it makes the stuff harder to read |
| 11:44:54 | bluebrother | in other words: harder to maintain |
| 11:45:03 | pondlife | decayedcell_: Hmm, I don't have a COP on my H300. |
| 11:45:06 | decayedcell_ | I suspected it was playback.c because the cop diff modifies that file, and no other svn commits have |
| 11:45:21 | JdGordon | well... either its lots of macros.. or in the case of the settings_list, lots of typecasts and {}'s |
| 11:45:21 | pondlife | It's only 2 lines extra isn't it? |
| 11:45:43 | pondlife | decayedcell_: If you comment out those 2 lines, I assume all is well again? |
| 11:45:53 | decayedcell_ | hmm |
| 11:46:00 | decayedcell_ | *checks SVN history* |
| 11:46:20 | pondlife | i.e. the filebuf += CODEC_IRAM_SIZE; filebuflen -= CODEC_IRAM_SIZE; |
| 11:46:30 | decayedcell_ | No its 12120 |
| 11:46:36 | decayedcell_ | I was right earlier http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/playback.c?r1=12119&r2=12120 |
| 11:46:58 | pondlife | Hmm, 12120 is only comment changes and code police.. allegedly |
| 11:47:29 | decayedcell_ | Well if you check the changes... |
| 11:47:38 | * | pondlife is checking right now |
| 11:48:04 | decayedcell_ | I don't see how a few extra lines could break the cop entirely though |
| 11:48:13 | pondlife | decayedcell_: Which are the new lines? |
| 11:48:23 | pondlife | Is it the inline stuff? |
| 11:48:57 | decayedcell_ | highlighted in green on the right side |
| 11:49:00 | decayedcell_ | is the extra stuff |
| 11:49:20 | pondlife | Do you have crossfade enabled? |
| 11:49:27 | decayedcell_ | nope |
| 11:49:37 | decayedcell_ | I never have crossfade enabled, just replaygain |
| 11:49:51 | decayedcell_ | but even with the cop patch that didn't slow it down |
| 11:50:40 | pondlife | Try commenting out the new call to codec_gapless_track_change().. |
| 11:50:59 | decayedcell_ | and then applying cop 7? |
| 11:51:14 | pondlife | Whatever you were doing that broke it before? |
| 11:51:31 | pondlife | i.e. comparing like-for-like |
| 11:51:34 | decayedcell_ | well up to 12119 with cop 6 cop was working fine |
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| 11:51:46 | pondlife | OK, so stick with cop 6 |
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| 11:52:14 | pondlife | And 12120 with that line removed. |
| 11:52:31 | decayedcell_ | well, if I just downloaded 12119 revision playback.c, wouldn't that be the same as commenting out the changes |
| 11:52:48 | pondlife | Yes, but I thought you'd already tried that. |
| 11:52:58 | decayedcell_ | yeah 12119 worked fine |
| 11:53:07 | pondlife | Next up is to work out *which* particular line is causing the problem. |
| 11:53:17 | decayedcell_ | ah okay which line then |
| 11:53:51 | decayedcell_ | 1835 + 1842? |
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| 11:56:59 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell would you have any idea of which line could be causing the cop problems http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/playback.c?r1=12119&r2=12120 |
| 11:57:23 | barrywardell | i had a quick look, but I don't know playback.c very well, so I'm not sure |
| 11:57:45 | barrywardell | i haven't even run KoCOP#7 myself yet! |
| 11:57:47 | jhMikeS | pondlife: You just reminded me about that buffer thing I wanted to address but I see it's been gotten to :) |
| 11:58:18 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell well I've already tested it, and it lags. It was perfectly fine with revision 12119 playback.c and cop 6 |
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| 12:00:38 | barrywardell | decayedcell_: there aren't may lines in 12120 that actually change the code. most only change comments |
| 12:00:58 | barrywardell | so i suggest pondlife's recommendation of going through them one by one |
| 12:01:02 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell well there is the crossfade stuff, that appears to be the only change |
| 12:01:34 | decayedcell_ | okay so which one should I comment out, and which character do I use, '/' ? |
| 12:02:18 | scorche | "//" before the line to comment out |
| 12:03:27 | decayedcell_ | I would imagine that the cop 6 diff would need to be modified too |
| 12:04:53 | barrywardell | use cop7 |
| 12:04:59 | barrywardell | with 12120 |
| 12:05:01 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell cop 7 is just cop 6 but with the code patched in different locations right |
| 12:05:05 | decayedcell_ | yeah okay |
| 12:05:09 | barrywardell | yes |
| 12:05:21 | barrywardell | remove the two new static inline functions |
| 12:06:26 | pondlife | decayedcell_: Sorry, phone rang |
| 12:07:11 | decayedcell_ | int crossfade_mode = global_settings.crossfade; this too? |
| 12:07:17 | pondlife | Not yet |
| 12:07:26 | pondlife | That can be the 2nd part |
| 12:07:27 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 12:07:33 | decayedcell_ | so just static inline void codec_gapless_track_change(void) |
| 12:07:40 | decayedcell_ | and static inline void codec_crossfade_track_change(void) |
| 12:07:54 | decayedcell_ | and adding // between the comments |
| 12:07:54 | pondlife | You'll need to reinstate the original function calls to pcmbuf_set_position_callback() etc. |
| 12:08:03 | barrywardell | put back the code starting line with if(global_settings.playlist_shuffle) |
| 12:08:43 | decayedcell_ | its probably easier if you comment it out for me then send the file :p |
| 12:08:43 | pondlife | jhMikeS: Which buffer thing did I remind you of? |
| 12:09:08 | pondlife | Got to go shortly I'm afraid |
| 12:09:29 | decayedcell_ | pondlife thats fine, barrywardell can you do it? |
| 12:09:40 | decayedcell_ | I'm not at all familiar with C |
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| 12:09:52 | LinusN | JdGordon: i agree with Daniel, we should keep the macros to a minimum |
| 12:09:52 | decayedcell_ | or any programming language bar BASIC >< |
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| 12:10:25 | barrywardell | decayedcell_: i'll give you a version of playback.c to test |
| 12:10:48 | jhMikeS | pondlife: the problem after the call to buffer_alloc and not adjusting the pointer and size. I've known about it and was gonna fix it but got all distracted recently. |
| 12:10:48 | pondlife | barrywardell: Thanks |
| 12:10:57 | pondlife | Aha |
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| 12:13:25 | decayedcell_ | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5755#comment12911 confirmed by Steve... so I guess its just line by line then |
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| 12:14:19 | JdGordon | LinusN: I agree also, but really think these should be exceptions |
| 12:15:07 | LinusN | i believe in having the code "in your face" |
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| 12:15:26 | * | GodEater coughs and points LinusN to his volunteering for patch test duty statement from earlier |
| 12:15:30 | barrywardell | decayedcell_: http://pastebin.ca/334116 |
| 12:15:34 | LinusN | but in this case, it might perhaps serve a purpose |
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| 12:16:36 | JdGordon | ... unfortunatly, even with the macros its going to be messy, but at least it will be slightly easier to follow than without them |
| 12:16:57 | LinusN | that of course depends on what you are trying to follow |
| 12:17:15 | LinusN | GodEater: the bootloader? |
| 12:17:42 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell: it appears that system.c has been modified recently |
| 12:17:46 | GodEater | your ata / fat patch |
| 12:17:48 | JdGordon | im talking about settings_list.c atm |
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| 12:18:04 | GodEater | I noticed you said to amiconn you thought you'd got the duplicte entries sorted ? |
| 12:18:18 | decayedcell_ | hmm actually I'll get rid of the other patches oops |
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| 12:18:25 | LinusN | GodEater: ah yes |
| 12:18:57 | GodEater | does it require FS #6549 applied seperately ? |
| 12:19:27 | LinusN | GodEater: i /msg:d you |
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| 12:24:34 | jhMikeS | I'm sure why the objection to macros in the settings struct since they'd be rather tedious declarations otherwise and worse to change if the element format is altered for some reason. |
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| 12:24:47 | jhMikeS | not sure rather |
| 12:25:34 | LinusN | jhMikeS: which is why i said it might serve a purpose in this case |
| 12:26:17 | jhMikeS | I wouldn't say "might" in this case :-) |
| 12:26:20 | daurnimator | JdGordon: what time do you finish each day? |
| 12:26:21 | LinusN | :-) |
| 12:26:34 | pondlife | 4am-6am, isn't it? |
| 12:26:40 | pondlife | ;) |
| 12:26:45 | JdGordon | daurnimator: uni? dont know yet, timetable doesnt come out till late feb |
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| 12:29:49 | LinusN | this is the type of macro that i dislike: |
| 12:29:52 | LinusN | #define GS(a) &global_settings.a |
| 12:29:57 | LinusN | totally unnecessary |
| 12:30:13 | LinusN | and non-kiss |
| 12:30:27 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell: still the same thing |
| 12:30:32 | JdGordon | thats because you like 80 char wide lines :p |
| 12:30:43 | daurnimator | JdGordon: i started 12 today, so i got a hell of a lot less time now |
| 12:33:29 | * | jhMikeS likes 77 char wide lines because all Microsoft example code does it :P |
| 12:33:45 | * | pondlife likes lines to go as long as they need to |
| 12:33:57 | pondlife | But then I do now have dual monitors!! |
| 12:34:04 | pondlife | (As of yesterday) |
| 12:34:13 | LinusN | so the lines can span two screens? wow! |
| 12:34:23 | JdGordon | no, thats too wide |
| 12:34:23 | jhMikeS | I don't have enough desk space for that or I would |
| 12:34:23 | pondlife | ;) |
| 12:34:28 | barrywardell | decayedcell_: ok. only one other thing changed. try this: http://pastebin.ca/334130 |
| 12:34:38 | JdGordon | 100ish should be the max... |
| 12:34:43 | pondlife | Nah, it gets hard to follow after about 150 |
| 12:35:17 | pondlife | I like line breaks for a better reason than an arbitrary number of chars |
| 12:35:21 | decayedcell_ | barrywardell alright I'll try it tommorrow, need to sleep. I'll email the results |
| 12:35:26 | barrywardell | k |
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| 12:35:35 | JdGordon | i have a line down the window at 80chars, i still have about 20lines worth of whitespace now |
| 12:35:46 | JdGordon | ... and im on a low res |
| 12:36:29 | JdGordon | anyway, back to figuring out this damn type cast |
| 12:37:28 | jhMikeS | pointers again? |
| 12:38:09 | JdGordon | yeah |
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| 12:44:19 | * | jhMikeS sees he left a comment in pcm_record.c about threading and the audio recording functions that's totally untrue now. |
| 12:45:57 | JdGordon | that wouldnt be the only untrue comment in the code... |
| 12:46:09 | JdGordon | the description of bmp_load (i tihnk) is wrong also |
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| 12:50:38 | jhMikeS | I hate it when I put in notes, fix the problem and forget to remove the note. Probably should refrain unless extremely important in some fundamental way. |
| 12:52:16 | GodEater | time for lunch... |
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| 12:54:10 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: still better to forget about the note than not fixing the problem... |
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| 13:00:17 | JdGordon | alrighty, how do i typecast to an array of char*'s inside a struct? ive been doing {(int[]){{blaa}}} (int* is whats actually requested) which has worked for everything else, but t wont work when it wants a char* |
| 13:00:31 | JdGordon | castng to void* wouldnt even work |
| 13:01:11 | JdGordon | grr... bloodu typical... i get it as soon as i ask :p |
| 13:01:20 | JdGordon | I was missing the unsigned :p |
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| 13:03:38 | JdGordon | sweet, it works |
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| 13:11:23 | Mikachu | jhMikeS: put in notes with #warning, that way you can't miss them :) |
| 13:12:13 | jhMikeS | Mikachu: haha...neither will anyone else :) |
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| 13:15:50 | JdGordon | Mikachu: thats proabably a good idea tho... |
| 13:16:06 | JdGordon | i mean, they arnt compile warnings.. so its not soo bad, and are helpful |
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| 13:17:42 | amiconn | JdGordon: They would still colour the build table yellow |
| 13:17:50 | JdGordon | so? |
| 13:18:09 | JdGordon | even more reason to make it like that... it forces people to remember and fx these problems |
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| 13:19:26 | * | jhMikeS will just use #error when he _really_ means it |
| 13:20:46 | JdGordon | well... thats going a bit extreme :p |
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| 13:29:03 | JdGordon | daurnimator: whats the archos model you have? |
| 13:29:24 | daurnimator | gmini 402 |
| 13:29:30 | daurnimator | why? |
| 13:30:03 | JdGordon | talking to a friend about it |
| 13:30:36 | daurnimator | o.o |
| 13:34:20 | * | JdGordon hates writing tech docs :( especially in wiki format |
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| 13:45:08 | LinusN | i wish slasheri could document the new scheduler in the wiki |
| 13:46:49 | preglow | well, at least he's said he's going to do it! |
| 13:46:52 | preglow | five, six times |
| 13:47:52 | JdGordon | maybe he forgot how it works... |
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| 14:13:42 | JdGordon | OK, I've started documenting the upcoming changes... can someone please have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SettingsRecode#Order_of_calls_to_the_menu_callb and let me know if that order of callback calls sound right? |
| 14:13:59 | JdGordon | I mean, thats what happens, but does it need changing? |
| 14:14:21 | JdGordon | ... ignore the rest of the page... its not done |
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| 14:18:39 | GodEater | dammit. Stone Sour are playing in London in March and all the tickets are gone already. |
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| 14:20:19 | directhex|work | i managed to get tickets for Air in march |
| 14:20:32 | directhex|work | although it was a slightly dodgy site, and i don't have any actual tickets yet... |
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| 14:21:22 | GodEater | none on ebay even |
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| 14:25:53 | directhex|work | they still have tickets for the other venues. could you make it to brum? |
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| 14:33:39 | directhex|work | bouncing |
| 14:33:44 | directhex|work | like a jack russel terrier |
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| 15:06:57 | GodEater | Llorean: I'm absolutely loving the gigabeat |
| 15:07:13 | GodEater | I'd definitely recommend it. |
| 15:07:39 | perldiver | :) |
| 15:07:46 | Llorean | It's no H120, but as a device for simply playing music from an HD it's quite good. |
| 15:08:16 | GodEater | my new H140 battery showed up yesterday too |
| 15:08:24 | GodEater | but the screwdriver didn't =/ |
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| 15:08:32 | Llorean | Frustrating |
| 15:08:33 | directhex|work | GodEater, good, i ordered one last night |
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| 15:08:53 | GodEater | somewhat - I've hunted round here at work too, and we only go down to T6 |
| 15:11:07 | GodEater | out of curiousity - did you change the theme on your GB Llorean? And if so - which did you go for ? |
| 15:11:21 | Llorean | Normally I make my own rather basic theme. |
| 15:11:31 | Llorean | But I stumbled across one in the gallery I very much like. |
| 15:11:35 | GodEater | I'm using Cabbie |
| 15:11:39 | Llorean | Yup |
| 15:11:43 | GodEater | yeah - it's very good |
| 15:11:43 | Llorean | I made a few changes to it. |
| 15:11:48 | GodEater | shame he didn't use the real RB logo |
| 15:11:52 | GodEater | but otherwise it's pretty bool |
| 15:11:54 | Llorean | I actually kinda like that logo. |
| 15:11:54 | GodEater | *cool |
| 15:12:05 | Llorean | Though in the menu I moved it to be rotated like the "Gigabeat" words. |
| 15:12:20 | GodEater | it's not bad I suppose - just unoffical |
| 15:12:22 | Llorean | And I added a entry showing where I was in the playlist, as well as numeric battery and volume, to it. |
| 15:12:27 | Llorean | an entry |
| 15:13:26 | bluebrother | woot! Got the utf8 manual working. Now I need to make it in a clean way |
| 15:14:17 | Llorean | Woo |
| 15:15:48 | Llorean | bluebrother: I haven't looked at how the tex is structured, but do you think it'd be reasonably possible for me to hack together a manual build that includes all the various player specific bits, text only (plus the general bits)? |
| 15:16:18 | Llorean | Or would a very lot of stuff end up repeating that way? |
| 15:16:50 | Llorean | I mean, I assume it's structured so you're not rewriting the same stuff for different players, but I don't know how well that'd translate into a giant mishmash. |
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| 15:22:18 | gook | A question for the initiated: why is radio.c in the recorder subdir? |
| 15:22:46 | Llorean | gook: Because the "recorder" subdir for a while meant "things with bitmap screens" if I recall. Though I'm not sure on this one. |
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| 15:24:34 | gook | Llorean: but this is not true anymore, right? So it would be logical to move it one level up. |
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| 15:24:58 | l_r | hello |
| 15:25:06 | l_r | how can i turn off the ipod? |
| 15:25:25 | l_r | i am not in rockbox, i am in the apple firmware fors some reasons |
| 15:25:32 | l_r | i have to reboot this thing |
| 15:25:39 | l_r | to enter rockbox again |
| 15:25:54 | Llorean | gook: No, it would be logical to move it to target tree, I assume. |
| 15:26:04 | Mikachu | l_r: hold menu+select |
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| 15:26:14 | Mikachu | l_r: or wait 36 hours |
| 15:26:33 | l_r | 36 hours? |
| 15:26:38 | Mikachu | maybe it's 24 |
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| 15:27:03 | Llorean | l_r: The Apple firmware can't be shut off normally. You either wait for it to go to deep sleep, or you restart with Menu+Select |
| 15:27:07 | Llorean | Waiting for Deep Sleep takes a long time. |
| 15:27:10 | l_r | ok done |
| 15:27:14 | gook | Llorean: I meant radio.c. It's for many platforms I think. |
| 15:27:28 | l_r | thanks |
| 15:27:33 | Llorean | gook: And? |
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| 15:29:15 | gook | Llorean: I thought under the target you have many subdirs (one for each platform). Should radio.c be copied then? |
| 15:30:20 | Llorean | gook: Well, perhaps just /drivers. I'm really not very solid on the source organization. |
| 15:30:30 | Llorean | But my understanding of target tree was that things that are hardware specific ended up there in the end. |
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| 15:31:28 | Llorean | Remember: This is far from my area of expertise, very far. |
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| 15:32:51 | gook | Llorean: but radio.c contains both kind of code. It should be splitted into platform specific and 'general' parts |
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| 15:33:15 | Llorean | gook: I never said it shouldn't be split. |
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| 15:34:49 | gook | I also never said you did :-) |
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| 15:35:25 | gook | But I say: it should! |
| 15:35:57 | Llorean | "Target Tree" isn't really just the /target folder, it includes splitting the files I believe. Again, working on my understanding of it, it's making sure that the general-purpose files are more separate from the hardware specific bits, and less ifdefs are scattered throughout firmware files. |
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| 15:38:05 | amiconn | radio.c is not firmware code |
| 15:38:31 | Llorean | Well, that settles it then. |
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| 15:39:38 | gook | amiconn: but as of now, it contains some HW specific #if's |
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| 16:44:51 | Luis07 | Will there be a Rockbox for the iPod Nano 2nd Generation? I was just curious, and I can't find any news |
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| 16:46:58 | perl|work | invadrox makes the player unresponsive to any buttons, including power off, after the backlight fade (gigabeat target) |
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| 16:48:24 | perl|work | hey midgey |
| 16:48:36 | midgey | hello |
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| 16:48:43 | perl|work | did you commit the invadrox? |
| 16:48:52 | midgey | no, that was midkay |
| 16:48:55 | perl|work | ah |
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| 17:00:51 | GodEater | any other gigabeat owners recommend a case for one ? |
| 17:01:02 | GodEater | can not do |
| 17:01:39 | * | GodEater managed to drop his (first day of ownership!) at the gym and scared himself when it wouldn't come back on. |
| 17:02:06 | directhex|work | place it inside a used sock. decreases chances of theft too! |
| 17:02:33 | GodEater | and makes using it a real pleasure |
| 17:04:01 | perl|work | well |
| 17:04:07 | perl|work | i use apple grey sock |
| 17:04:08 | perl|work | :P |
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| 17:08:56 | perl|work | GodEater no good cases were ever made |
| 17:10:19 | perl|work | http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-MEG-F40-Gigabeat-FlexiSkin-Low-Profile/dp/B000G2UGPQ |
| 17:10:56 | perl|work | this one is very "industrial" but does the job |
| 17:11:01 | GodEater | I just ordered a silicone skin from some uk site |
| 17:11:17 | perl|work | same one i posted? |
| 17:11:21 | GodEater | looks very similar ;) |
| 17:11:44 | GodEater | the first site I looked at was charging $23!!!! |
| 17:11:46 | perl|work | yeah i doubt theres something else silicone for gigabeat |
| 17:11:51 | GodEater | I want diamond plating for that amount |
| 17:12:12 | KCC | Check out the Tech-Nohm case |
| 17:12:25 | GodEater | http://www.i-nique.co.uk/ |
| 17:12:26 | KCC | i've got one, its a pretty good case |
| 17:12:28 | KCC | bulky though |
| 17:12:29 | GodEater | that's where I ordered from |
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| 17:28:01 | GodEater | markun or toffe around ? |
| 17:28:53 | perl|work | both away |
| 17:29:03 | perl|work | maybe i can help? |
| 17:29:22 | GodEater | oh it's just a question on the manual |
| 17:29:45 | GodEater | I noticed last night when I was doing my install, after I'd done the bootloader section, turning it off wasnt' enough (at least, not using the power button) |
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| 17:30:04 | GodEater | I just wondered if it was worth inserting that as a step into the manual |
| 17:30:20 | GodEater | otherwise it just stayed in the Toshiba fw |
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| 17:30:36 | perl|work | i always thought the step with flipping the battery switch is in the manual |
| 17:30:37 | directhex|work | GodEater, i want the gigabeat manual to be spot-on by friday! |
| 17:30:54 | perl|work | at least its on the gigabeat wiki page |
| 17:31:04 | GodEater | from the manual : "2.4. Running RockboxRemove your player from the computer’s USB port.Unplug any connected power supply and turn the unit off. When you next turn the unit on, Rockbox should load. When you see the Rockbox splash screen, Rockbox is loaded and ready for use." |
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| 17:31:13 | GodEater | that's all it says |
| 17:31:25 | perl|work | thats strange |
| 17:31:31 | * | GodEater waits to be struck by lightning for pasting in the channel |
| 17:32:26 | perl|work | yep, its missing the battery switch step |
| 17:32:46 | GodEater | so that *is* required then |
| 17:32:52 | GodEater | it wasn't just me |
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| 17:33:33 | perl|work | it is very much required |
| 17:33:43 | GodEater | thought so - I just wanted to check |
| 17:34:01 | GodEater | can you do the change yourself, or do you want me to submit a patch ? |
| 17:35:19 | GodEater | also (having just read the wiki port page rather than the manual) if the latest bootloader is dated the 18th, then it still hasn't made it to download.rockbox.org - since I'm using one from the 17th |
| 17:35:23 | webguest20 | What happens to the hidden disc sector after updating to a RB version where settings are stored in cfg files? Can the sector be removed so that there will be no tracks of RB if I delete RB specific files? |
| 17:37:18 | perl|work | GodEater bootloader in bootloader.zip dated 18th was made during some late night hours |
| 17:37:28 | perl|work | so technically its 17th but was added on 18th |
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| 17:38:03 | GodEater | ah - so I'm using the right bootloader then - but not with the splash ? |
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| 17:39:10 | perl|work | spash comes separately in a .raw file you put in /root |
| 17:39:45 | GodEater | I see that from the wiki |
| 17:39:52 | perl|work | (hence its .zip file) |
| 17:40:02 | GodEater | yep understood |
| 17:40:27 | GodEater | playing devil's advocate here - wouldn't it make sense to have the zip file include the gbsystem\fwimg folder structure ? |
| 17:40:43 | GodEater | although I suppose that could mean a use would overwrite the original firmware before he renamed it |
| 17:40:58 | perl|work | yeah people might end up screwing the whole thing |
| 17:42:50 | perl|work | ill ask someone with write access from #gigabeat to modify the manual |
| 17:43:44 | GodEater | hmmm |
| 17:43:51 | GodEater | anyone know where the dircache get's stored ? |
| 17:45:38 | perl|work | tcd files? |
| 17:46:34 | GodEater | no that's the database |
| 17:46:46 | GodEater | dircache seems to be broken here |
| 17:46:46 | perl|work | ah |
| 17:47:20 | GodEater | if I turn the player on with it enabled - it says rockbox loaded, and the the screen goes blank, the backlight switches off, and then nothing else happens. |
| 17:47:46 | GodEater | I wonder if that's a result of the patch LinusN did this mornign |
| 17:47:50 | amiconn | The dircache doesn't get stored on disk |
| 17:48:04 | amiconn | (except on H1x0 when rockbox is in flash) |
| 17:48:13 | GodEater | right |
| 17:48:42 | GodEater | so I wonder what's going on there then |
| 17:48:55 | GodEater | the first reboot after you enable it it works fine |
| 17:49:02 | perl|work | GodEater always worked on mine |
| 17:49:08 | GodEater | you get the "scanning disk" message |
| 17:49:13 | GodEater | but if you then power off and back on |
| 17:49:20 | GodEater | you get the symtoms I describe above |
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| 17:49:43 | GodEater | and you have to boot with hold on to clear settings to get it to work again |
| 17:49:58 | ppeom | Hi all.. |
| 17:50:08 | perl|work | GodEater i balme patches |
| 17:50:12 | perl|work | blame* |
| 17:50:16 | GodEater | hehe |
| 17:50:25 | ppeom | blame patch? |
| 17:50:28 | GodEater | I'm just re-building the fw again without that patch to see if it helps |
| 17:51:12 | ppeom | Can edit Start menu charactet position ? |
| 17:51:23 | perl|work | invadrox crashes the player after you quit the plugin btw, GodEater |
| 17:51:33 | perl|work | only battery flip helps |
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| 17:52:18 | GodEater | not even tried that |
| 17:53:09 | GodEater | amiconn: so explain to me how it works then ? Does dircache scan your disk every time you boot ? |
| 17:53:24 | amiconn | Yes. |
| 17:53:39 | GodEater | I wonder why it works once and not subsequently then |
| 17:53:58 | amiconn | At first boot after enabling, it scans in the foreground. After that it knows the necessary buffer size |
| 17:54:18 | ppeom | Who's know gigabeat.. |
| 17:54:22 | amiconn | Subsequent boot use this information in order to reserve the buffer beforehand, and then scan in the background |
| 17:54:46 | GodEater | so it does store *something* somewhere then |
| 17:54:56 | GodEater | i.e. the size of the req'd buffer |
| 17:54:59 | amiconn | Yes. Just the buffer size |
| 17:55:06 | GodEater | and where does that live ? |
| 17:55:28 | amiconn | The buffer gets allocated with some extra space to adjust to changed content |
| 17:56:16 | amiconn | It's part of the global status, i.e. nvram.bin as long as there is no other nv storage |
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| 17:57:30 | amiconn | I never use dircache myself, so I don't know what could be the problem here |
| 17:58:01 | GodEater | well as I was saying earlier |
| 17:58:10 | GodEater | I tested LinusN's latest fat patch this morning |
| 17:58:18 | GodEater | I was wondering if it could have anything to do with that |
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| 17:58:45 | GodEater | I've just replace that rockbox.gigabeat with one that doesn't include the patch |
| 17:58:51 | GodEater | and the problem appears to have gone away |
| 17:59:16 | GodEater | I'll just test again to make sure |
| 17:59:48 | GodEater | yep - definitely gone |
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| 18:01:02 | amiconn | Maybe the fat patch breaks dircache somehow? Dircache is pretty low-level.... |
| 18:01:04 | GodEater | I'll just put it back again to make sure that was the problem and not some other lame thing I'd done |
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| 18:02:24 | GodEater | does ROLO work on igabeat ? |
| 18:02:37 | perl|work | nope |
| 18:03:03 | GodEater | a mundane reboot then ;) |
| 18:03:07 | GodEater | yep |
| 18:03:11 | GodEater | it's definitely that |
| 18:03:21 | GodEater | won't boot properly now |
| 18:03:32 | GodEater | well - bootloader works - but rockbox won't now |
| 18:03:40 | GodEater | shame - poor LinusN :( |
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| 18:05:36 | GodEater | right - I've got to shoot home |
| 18:05:39 | GodEater | chat later chaps |
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| 18:12:12 | barrywardell | that sansa emulator really is great! |
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| 18:20:06 | Mikachu | hcs: have you seen http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6603 ? |
| 18:21:10 | hcs | nope, thanks for pointing it out |
| 18:21:21 | lowlight | barrywardell: what's needed to get the sansa emu to work? |
| 18:22:07 | hcs | Mikachu: looks like a straightforward float to fixed conversion, which I had intended to do but didn't care about N106 to get around to... |
| 18:22:11 | lowlight | just crashes for me :( |
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| 18:24:51 | Genre9mp3 | hcs: I was curious... do you plan to adapt other Nintendo formats in the future? like GBS or USF? |
| 18:25:29 | Genre9mp3 | hcs: great work with NSF and SPC btw :) |
| 18:27:28 | hcs | Genre9mp3: I'm considering GBS, but I think the best strategy for that might be to get blargg an iPod and let him do it :) |
| 18:28:07 | Genre9mp3 | hehe |
| 18:28:59 | hcs | USF... is not likely |
| 18:29:43 | Genre9mp3 | to much processing power needed? |
| 18:29:47 | bkuhn | Hey, do any of the developers working on the 80GB port still need the donation of an 80GB model? |
| 18:29:48 | Genre9mp3 | too |
| 18:29:54 | bkuhn | 80GB 5.5 ipod, I mean. |
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| 18:30:44 | hcs | Genre9mp3: Yeah. Even the best players available only run on x86, and would still be too slow if they could magically be transformed into exactly equivalent ARM |
| 18:31:35 | Genre9mp3 | hmmm... so I guess this applies for all PSF based formats, right? |
| 18:32:05 | hcs | no, PSF itself I think is feasible |
| 18:32:14 | hcs | GSF also |
| 18:32:46 | Genre9mp3 | PSF would rock in rockbox! :) |
| 18:33:46 | hcs | I have no intention of working on it myself any time soon. |
| 18:34:52 | Genre9mp3 | well, sure... its better to have SPC in SVN first :) |
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| 18:35:16 | Genre9mp3 | anyway gtg |
| 18:35:19 | Genre9mp3 | cheers |
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| 18:50:13 | tucoz | does anyone know what sdl package i should apt-get in debian to be able to compile the sims? |
| 18:50:48 | XavierGr | hmm |
| 18:51:00 | XavierGr | tucoz: have you installed X? |
| 18:51:06 | tucoz | no, not yet |
| 18:51:21 | XavierGr | in order to make the sim run I think you need that |
| 18:51:24 | tucoz | i am building a virtual machine for VirtualBox |
| 18:51:32 | Mikachu | probably something like sdl-dev and sdl, possibly "lib" too |
| 18:51:45 | XavierGr | yeah what Mikachu said |
| 18:52:09 | XavierGr | but I am almost certain that when I built the VMWare image the sim couldn't run without X |
| 18:52:22 | tucoz | ok. i thought i only needed the sdl-dev package, but i guess i need sdl to be able to run it :) |
| 18:52:34 | Mikachu | you need sdl to link it too |
| 18:52:35 | tucoz | yes, i will have to install x to run it |
| 18:52:39 | bluebrother | sdl-dev should require the sdl package |
| 18:52:53 | tucoz | right. that is probably true |
| 18:53:29 | tucoz | it's really cool. I wonder if i should see how quick i can compile a rockbox build in this vm |
| 18:54:06 | bluebrother | tucoz: I want to add the ucs package files to svn but I'm not sure about the license |
| 18:54:21 | tucoz | what was the link again? |
| 18:54:25 | bluebrother | afaiu you need to distribute everything |
| 18:54:27 | bluebrother | sec. |
| 18:54:42 | bluebrother | which would include lots of unneeded stuff |
| 18:54:54 | bluebrother | http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/ |
| 18:55:00 | tucoz | thanks |
| 18:55:18 | bluebrother | looks like I'll manage to put everything in a different folder ... |
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| 18:55:49 | bluebrother | but the question is: do I need to put everything from the package there? Or can I use only the files I need? |
| 18:56:04 | Mikachu | - A distribution may split the package into smaller packages, as long |
| 18:56:04 | Mikachu | as this fact is visible to the user and the user may easily install |
| 18:56:04 | Mikachu | the complete UCS package (e.g. by installing all small packages). |
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| 18:56:33 | bluebrother | right. But I don't want to create a package, I want to use parts of it |
| 18:56:50 | bluebrother | i.e. the most except what's needed to rebuild some files and other addons |
| 18:57:34 | Mikachu | just put the full package in the wiki somewhere |
| 18:57:46 | tucoz | I guess you could simply state what you have done in a documentation file when you upload it |
| 18:57:52 | bluebrother | so do I need to consider it as a package and add everything? |
| 18:58:16 | bluebrother | I wanted to add a README file to the new folder and add some information where to get the complete package |
| 18:58:26 | tucoz | Like README.rockbox |
| 18:58:30 | bluebrother | but the license made me doubt if that is sufficient |
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| 18:58:51 | bluebrother | and of course add the license file for ucs there too |
| 18:58:58 | Mikachu | you could ask him |
| 18:59:05 | tucoz | my initial thought is that the license is quite flexible |
| 18:59:40 | Mikachu | what kind of space do these extra files take? |
| 18:59:49 | tucoz | i haven't read the LaTeX Project Public License though |
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| 19:00:20 | bluebrother | 3.6MiB |
| 19:00:33 | barrywardell | lowlight: it ran for me. i think you need a full dev environment with debugger, etc to get the most out of it though |
| 19:01:03 | bluebrother | if I want to add everything that _might_ be needed (i.e. all definition files) I get 2.2MiB |
| 19:01:15 | bluebrother | so adding all other files doesn |
| 19:01:20 | bluebrother | doesn't add too much |
| 19:01:53 | tucoz | no. it's not that bad. maybe you should ask one of the old-timers for their opinion? |
| 19:02:15 | bluebrother | you mean Rockbox old-timers? Might be a good idea |
| 19:02:19 | tucoz | yes |
| 19:02:39 | bluebrother | ok, I'll do that later. |
| 19:02:49 | bluebrother | gtg now, back in half an hour or so. |
| 19:02:54 | tucoz | see you |
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| 19:32:14 | bluey- | hey, anyone can recommend me some inear phones for 100?? |
| 19:32:28 | bluey- | how are the ultimate ears super.fi 3? |
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| 19:32:36 | Febs | This isn't really the right place for that inquiry. But I'd recommend Westone UM-1. |
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| 19:33:22 | bluey- | do you have them? |
| 19:33:40 | Febs | Yes. |
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| 19:34:53 | bluey- | how stable are they? my last one had a crappy cord which broke several times (panasonic hje70) |
| 19:35:12 | * | amiconn wonders what currency '??' means |
| 19:35:42 | Febs | Bluey: I've haven't had a problem with them. I suggest, however, that you look to http://www.head-fi.org for recommendations. |
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| 19:36:04 | bluey- | thanks for the link |
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| 19:49:16 | tucoz | amiconn, you decide what currency you want the price to be in :) |
| 19:49:19 | GodEater | We definitely need to get Llorean some larger boots |
| 19:49:41 | amiconn | 100 SEK perhaps? ;) Quite cheap then |
| 19:49:46 | tucoz | or 100 Bhat |
| 19:50:13 | tucoz | i think that's about 20 SEK |
| 19:50:30 | GodEater | 100 Yen ? |
| 19:51:21 | tucoz | I wonder, should i keep the vm without X. I.e. strictly for compiling etc |
| 19:51:21 | amiconn | Otoh, if it were 100 EUR, or even 100 GBP... |
| 19:52:29 | amiconn | tucoz: I also thought about building a minimalistic vmware vm for rockbox |
| 19:52:50 | tucoz | this feels really fast. Actually, it feels equal to my other terminals |
| 19:52:50 | GodEater | or 100 CYP |
| 19:53:06 | amiconn | Plain console, just the crosscompilers, samba, plus a windows crosscompiler, so the vm could build windows sims |
| 19:53:29 | tucoz | yep. I think i'll go that route, and see how well that works |
| 19:53:52 | XavierGr | well I don't think that you will gain much more except the size of the image |
| 19:54:21 | tucoz | i have little (or none) experience with samba. Do i install samba in the vm, to be able to access windows files? |
| 19:54:41 | amiconn | Iirc rasher added autodetection of the cross-win-sdl case, i.e. if the build system finds the win32 sdl includes in the path, it should build windows sims |
| 19:54:48 | GodEater | installing samba in the VM will give your windows install access to the filesystem in the VM |
| 19:55:04 | bluebrother | tucoz, did you manage to get the shared folders working? |
| 19:55:07 | tucoz | ok. thanks |
| 19:55:10 | XavierGr | "IF" your windows system is set up correctly |
| 19:55:15 | tucoz | hehe, i started from scratch |
| 19:55:22 | GodEater | making sure the vmware kernel supports smb or cifs will allow connections the other way |
| 19:55:22 | tucoz | i do not know yet |
| 19:55:25 | XavierGr | that means that you will have to make sure that the network services are on (server etc) |
| 19:55:28 | GodEater | which I think is tidier myself |
| 19:55:35 | GodEater | and certainly requires less faffing about |
| 19:55:43 | GodEater | and will make your image smaller still |
| 19:55:54 | GodEater | samba is a sledgehammer to crack a nut in this case I think |
| 19:56:01 | XavierGr | tucoz keep in mind that you will need the latex packages to build manuals |
| 19:56:13 | tucoz | yep. i'll add them |
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| 19:57:57 | XavierGr | tucoz: for some needed packages check the wiki here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 19:58:18 | tucoz | thanks :) |
| 19:58:41 | XavierGr | of course not all are needed for basic compile |
| 19:59:37 | tucoz | no. but i want to be able to compile the stuff there is to compile |
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| 20:00:27 | tucoz | bbl |
| 20:00:50 | * | amiconn wonders what's necessary to build debian packages. Same question for cygwin packages |
| 20:02:12 | bluebrother | tucoz, wanna try a possible utf8 fix? |
| 20:02:59 | bluebrother | apply http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/pastebin/36 and unpack the ucs package from http://www.unruh.de/DniQ/latex/unicode/unicode.tgz to the manual folder (so it becomes a subfolder ucs/) |
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| 20:07:38 | tucoz | sure |
| 20:07:39 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 20:12:40 | Simpson | Ok. I've been trying to use the mpeg player on my Gigabeat, but it doesn't seem to work. I know that it doesn't rebuffer right now, but I can't get it to show any video whatsoever. First, I download the 425MB .avi file and then I installed VLC. I then also downloaded the .bat file, dragged and dropped the .avi onto the .bat and it made a new file, which I put onto the Gigabeat. The only problem is when I try to play it, it says buffering, and then nothing h |
| 20:13:02 | Simpson | The 425 Elephant's Dream video I mean |
| 20:13:04 | Simpson | 425MB* |
| 20:14:33 | Soul-Slayer | Simpson, the bat file on the manual is broken, it encodes to a .m2v still, the file type used by older versions of mpegplayer |
| 20:14:47 | Soul-Slayer | Unless you mean a different bat file, in which case it may have something to do with the size of the file |
| 20:14:51 | Simpson | Ah. |
| 20:15:07 | Simpson | No, you're right it's .m2v |
| 20:15:15 | Simpson | Is there any way to convert it correctly? |
| 20:15:22 | Simpson | A new .bat file? |
| 20:15:36 | tucoz | bluebrother, i am doing something wrong. i get patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input. |
| 20:15:49 | tucoz | after i run patch < p.diff |
| 20:15:54 | Soul-Slayer | A new .bat file has yet to be created - I do know of a third part tool that seems to work for me however. Hold on |
| 20:16:05 | bluebrother | maybe it's because of the missing @@ pastebin eats |
| 20:16:19 | tucoz | where is that? |
| 20:16:19 | bluebrother | (the yellow lines) |
| 20:16:28 | tucoz | ok |
| 20:16:29 | toffe | Simpson : why don't you try the version of elephant dream of the wiki ? |
| 20:16:41 | Soul-Slayer | http://misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=51189 Courtesy of TrueJournals, you will want the 'Full version with all codecs' |
| 20:16:57 | bluebrother | I should find out how to modify pastebin to not eat @@ at the beginning of a line ... |
| 20:17:07 | Simpson | Thank's soul-slayer |
| 20:17:14 | Soul-Slayer | No problem. |
| 20:17:17 | Simpson | toffe: I also want to convert other files :) |
| 20:17:34 | Soul-Slayer | Does anyone know if barrywardell is around? I am wondering if he managed to get RockBoy working in the end |
| 20:17:35 | Simpson | What's the input file have to be? |
| 20:17:47 | barrywardell | i'm here now |
| 20:17:48 | Soul-Slayer | Covers most extensions, I think he listed them |
| 20:17:50 | Soul-Slayer | Aha, hello |
| 20:17:58 | Soul-Slayer | Any luck? |
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| 20:18:11 | tucoz | bluebrother, should i add a @@ in front of those lines? |
| 20:18:21 | bluebrother | yep. |
| 20:18:44 | bluebrother | for some strange reason pastebin uses them to recognize lines to highlight and also removes them |
| 20:18:46 | barrywardell | i haven't tried the latest version yet |
| 20:18:47 | Soul-Slayer | Simpson: Supported file types are *.mov *.mpg *.mpeg *.avi *.wmv *.rm *.flv and *.m4v |
| 20:18:59 | Mikachu | tucoz: you want to click "download" |
| 20:19:03 | barrywardell | and didn't hear from TrueJournals if he has the same bug |
| 20:19:11 | tucoz | aha |
| 20:19:18 | Simpson | I just read, thank you. |
| 20:19:27 | Mikachu | "To highlight particular lines, prefix each line with @@" |
| 20:20:37 | dan_a | barrywardell: Do you have any ideas about what might be causing the Sansa lockups? |
| 20:20:41 | tucoz | bluebrother, i have to do this later. i have to get my daughter to sleep. |
| 20:21:02 | bluebrother | sure |
| 20:21:10 | barrywardell | dan_a: I haven't really looked at the flash driver, but it seemed to always happen on writes |
| 20:22:10 | dan_a | barrywardell: I'm getting them while scrolling up and down the screen now. |
| 20:22:18 | barrywardell | dan_a: also, you may have noticed I added the power off for the sansa. but now I'm wondering if we're better off doing it like this: http://pastebin.ca/334616 |
| 20:22:21 | barrywardell | both ways work |
| 20:23:20 | dan_a | The new way is more in line with how we believe the AS3514 to work |
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| 20:23:40 | dan_a | But if the current way works, why change it?! |
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| 20:24:02 | dan_a | I'm starting to wonder if it's the LCD driver that hangs. |
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| 20:24:06 | bluebrother | tucoz, when you come back, the same as diff here: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/utf8fix.diff |
| 20:24:13 | barrywardell | because we're changing more than necessary |
| 20:24:21 | barrywardell | dan_a: i think you might be right |
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| 20:24:27 | barrywardell | i've got a freeze here |
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| 20:24:40 | barrywardell | but the backlight on the wheel still comes on and off as it should |
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| 20:24:53 | barrywardell | indicating rockbox is still running |
| 20:24:54 | dan_a | I'm going to disable writing in the flash driver, and see if that helps. |
| 20:25:02 | barrywardell | just not updating the lcd... |
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| 20:25:38 | barrywardell | dan_a: any ideas about waiting for the dma to finish before starting another lcd update? |
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| 20:26:10 | Soul-Slayer | Sorry to interrupt Barry, but is there any updates/progress/other news on the KoCOP patch? |
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| 20:26:56 | dan_a | Soul-Slayer: See FS #5755 |
| 20:27:00 | Soul-Slayer | Thanks. |
| 20:27:21 | barrywardell | i tested both 6 (with SVN 12119) and 7 (with current SVN) and they both felt the same on my h10. but then the cop patch isn't really working on the H10 without changing the frequency scaling too. |
| 20:27:59 | dan_a | barrywardell: Logically, we should be able to just monitor the GPIO pin for the LCD update, but Rockbox has hung every time I've tried to do it that way |
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| 20:29:56 | barrywardell | has it definitely hung? or does the lcd just not update? ie. does the scroll wheel light still work? |
| 20:30:39 | dan_a | Last time I tried, the scroll wheel hadn't been worked out, so I don't know. |
| 20:31:01 | barrywardell | would be worth trying again now in that case... |
| 20:31:35 | dan_a | I get a hang (with scroll wheel light working) after a few seconds with writing disabled in the ATA driver |
| 20:31:55 | barrywardell | ok, so it's not that |
| 20:32:48 | Simpson | Whoa. When I played the movie, it was FAST! |
| 20:32:55 | Simpson | Anyway to slow that sucker down... |
| 20:33:32 | linuxstb_ | Go into the mpegplayer menu and enable Limit FPS and Skip Frames. |
| 20:34:26 | amiconn | barrywardell: If it hangs but things like backlight etc still react, it's very probably the main thread hanging in some endless loop that yields |
| 20:34:40 | lex | linuxstb_: is the rockboy so slow on ipods because of the slow lcd driver? |
| 20:35:08 | linuxstb_ | Not all ipods have slow lcd drivers. |
| 20:35:15 | lex | what about 5.5G |
| 20:35:34 | linuxstb_ | I've no idea what the bottleneck is in rockboy. |
| 20:35:40 | lex | :o |
| 20:35:47 | lex | what about doom then |
| 20:35:47 | barrywardell | amiconn: the backlight handling is in the button driver (it's a button backlight), but I assume the same reasoning applies |
| 20:36:00 | lex | or just because of the megahertzes |
| 20:36:01 | Simpson | The video still plays too fast in the player, even with skip frames and limit fps on. |
| 20:36:08 | Simpson | Just the way it is right now? |
| 20:36:50 | linuxstb_ | Does the video play at the correct speed in a PC video player? |
| 20:37:09 | Simpson | Let me check. |
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| 20:39:03 | Simpson | Yes. |
| 20:39:09 | Simpson | The video plays correctly on PC |
| 20:39:35 | barrywardell | hmmm. the power_off() no longer gets called when it crashes. is that handled in the main thread? |
| 20:40:03 | linuxstb_ | Simpson: Double-check that Limit FPS is still enabled. |
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| 20:40:46 | Simpson | Yup |
| 20:40:48 | Simpson | Still on. |
| 20:41:00 | Simpson | Let me convert another video and see if it changes. |
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| 20:48:48 | tucoz | bluebrother, works great |
| 20:49:02 | Simpson | Ok, newly converted video works fine. |
| 20:49:09 | Simpson | Audio's in sync. |
| 20:49:14 | Simpson | Framerates good. |
| 20:49:25 | Simpson | Wish you coul adjust volume though.... |
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| 20:51:06 | tucoz | bluebrother, when editing the manual when it is using ucs, do we also save the source files as utf-8 then? |
| 20:51:13 | Redbreva | can anyone help me get Manual compilation working...? I have installed tetex-base tetex-bin and tetex-extra, corrected the strange s character in credits, but still cannot get the manual to compile (output can be seen here http://www.rockbox-themes.org/error.html ) |
| 20:51:54 | Redbreva | OS = Ubuntu 6.1 in VMWare in case that is important |
| 20:52:01 | tucoz | yep |
| 20:52:13 | tucoz | Redbreva, ubuntu uses dash instead of bash |
| 20:52:43 | tucoz | that is, /bin/sh is pointing to dash instead of bash |
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| 20:52:56 | Redbreva | tucoz: Sorry - not sure what you mean by that |
| 20:53:03 | tucoz | Redbreva, you mean ubuntu 6.10 right? |
| 20:53:08 | Redbreva | yep |
| 20:53:44 | tucoz | i do not remember the syntax, but you could change the symlink /bin/sh to point to bash instead of dash |
| 20:53:45 | Danselky | Hey guys, I was looking through all the manuals for WPS coding, and I couldn't find anything about changing the font color for the WPS only... is it possible at all? |
| 20:54:04 | Danselky | Font color and size |
| 20:54:06 | Mikachu | no |
| 20:54:15 | tucoz | Redbreva, could you do: ls -l /bin/sh ? |
| 20:54:19 | tucoz | without the ? |
| 20:54:29 | Danselky | I like bigger fonts for the menus, but lots of info on the WPS |
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| 20:55:07 | linuxstb_ | Setting SHELL=/bin/bash in the Makefile should work. |
| 20:55:16 | tucoz | ok, that is better |
| 20:56:39 | Danselky | no one knows? |
| 20:56:44 | Redbreva | bin/sh -> dash |
| 20:57:07 | Redbreva | Whereablouts in make - anywhere? |
| 20:57:25 | linuxstb_ | Danselky: Mikachu already answered - you can't. |
| 20:58:52 | tucoz | Redbreva, my guess is at the top somewhere |
| 20:58:54 | perl|work | invadrox makes the player unresponsive to any buttons, including power off, after the backlight fade (gigabeat target) |
| 20:59:36 | tucoz | or do you set export SHELL=/bin/bash? |
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| 21:00:09 | linuxstb_ | I think just SHELL=/bin/bash near the top should work. |
| 21:00:42 | linuxstb_ | If the Makefile is using bash-isms, then we should probably add that in SVN. |
| 21:01:02 | linuxstb_ | (or remove the bash-isms) |
| 21:01:12 | Redbreva | hmm, tried both - neither option seemed to make a difference |
| 21:01:24 | linuxstb_ | Which Makefile? |
| 21:01:45 | Redbreva | the one inside the manual_video build folder |
| 21:02:02 | bluebrother | tucoz, not necessarily −− except for the credits we don't use characters outside of ASCII, and the lower characters are identical to utf-8 |
| 21:02:21 | bluebrother | but, if we happen to use extended characters, we need to use utf8 for them then |
| 21:02:32 | bluebrother | unless we write them as latex control sequences |
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| 21:02:46 | tucoz | ah, so those will still work |
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| 21:02:59 | bluebrother | yeah. No other changes necessary |
| 21:03:03 | tucoz | great |
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| 21:03:46 | bluebrother | that's the great thing about utf8 |
| 21:04:04 | Danselky | Damn, sorry and thank you. |
| 21:04:09 | linuxstb_ | Redbreva: Can you try changing the one in the main manual directory? |
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| 21:05:36 | barrywardell | dan_a: did you say before you had done some work on the sansa fm radio? |
| 21:05:54 | Soul-Slayer | barrywardell: Are there any combinations of SVN and KoCOP patch that do infact increase performance? |
| 21:05:58 | dan_a | barrywardell: I've not got far with it |
| 21:06:49 | Redbreva | linuxstb_: Great!! SHELL=/bin/bash in the manual directory did the job ;-) Thanks |
| 21:07:01 | barrywardell | dan_a: i have a tuner on my sansa so i was just curious |
| 21:07:02 | tucoz | then we should commit that imo |
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| 21:08:15 | dan_a | barrywardell: The radio is a bit mad. It looks like to tune it you write a random value to the tuner and then measure what frequency that gives you, and go up or down based on that. |
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| 21:08:49 | linuxstb_ | That sounds more than a "bit mad". |
| 21:09:20 | barrywardell | that sounds crazy |
| 21:09:26 | dan_a | I'm *sure* I'm missing something fundamental, but haven't figured out what yet. |
| 21:09:27 | Soul-Slayer | What an... Effective... System o.0. |
| 21:09:45 | Mikachu | wouldn't you only need to do that once, then you know how the "random" value relates to the freq? |
| 21:10:06 | Soul-Slayer | Unless it's randomised each boot...? |
| 21:10:24 | Soul-Slayer | Where would the logic in that be o.0. |
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| 21:11:05 | dan_a | I guess so - or at least measure the highest and lowest frequencies, and see if the tuning is linear and work from there |
| 21:11:28 | Redbreva | Strange, I seem to have a fully formed .pdf manual, but I got an error at the end of the compilation - /bin/sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected |
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| 21:12:09 | Redbreva | make[2]: *** [rockbox-build.pdf] Error 2 |
| 21:12:18 | BiptoN | where's the install instructions for the 5.5 30gb? |
| 21:12:34 | tucoz | maybe there is another Makefile that needs fixing |
| 21:12:45 | tucoz | as it calls /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash |
| 21:13:03 | Redbreva | perhaps I need to leave it in the build dir makefile too |
| 21:13:55 | tucoz | and if that does not work, try the Makefile.pdflatex |
| 21:14:09 | tucoz | in the manual dir |
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| 21:17:24 | Redbreva | tucoz: Thanks - that was indeed the solution... both makefile and makefile.pdflatex in the manual dir needed SHELL=/bin/bash at the top... manual has now built to completion without errors... |
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| 21:18:04 | tucoz | cool. thanks for the help with the bug-hunting |
| 21:18:12 | Redbreva | ;-) |
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| 21:26:32 | tucoz | bluebrother, should we commit the fix to be able to build the manual on ubuntu 6.10? |
| 21:27:01 | tucoz | we have to expect people to have /bin/bash though |
| 21:28:38 | linuxstb_ | Do we know what dash isn't happy with?? |
| 21:29:36 | tucoz | hehe. you want to go for that route instead of the quick hack |
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| 21:30:53 | tucoz | it is definitley better to find that out, albeit more work |
| 21:31:03 | * | linuxstb_ adds SHELL=/bin/dash to his Makefile |
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| 21:31:42 | GodEater | dash... ? |
| 21:31:55 | tucoz | debians shell |
| 21:32:04 | GodEater | they need their own shell ? |
| 21:32:17 | tucoz | something to do with licenses probably |
| 21:32:24 | tucoz | and, it's a lot leaner than bash |
| 21:33:01 | tucoz | "A difference between dash and bash is the echo command : you can't escape characters : "\\n" always print a newline with dash, whereas it prints "\n" with bash." |
| 21:33:07 | Lear | Ubuntu changed to dash (for bin/sh) because it was smaller and faster. |
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| 21:36:28 | linuxstb_ | Hmm.. Seems dash wants echo "\\\newcommand" to output "\newcommand" |
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| 21:37:18 | linuxstb_ | The same in bash gives \\newcommand |
| 21:37:30 | tucoz | exactly what i pasted ^^ ;) |
| 21:38:18 | linuxstb_ | Ah, you meant that you can't escape characters in bash? |
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| 21:38:53 | tucoz | hehe, i am not sure after i read that again |
| 21:39:22 | linuxstb_ | The -e option to the bash echo will enable interpretation of escape codes. |
| 21:40:11 | linuxstb_ | But yes, dash doesn't have a -e option, and interprets escape codes by default. |
| 21:40:18 | tucoz | i see |
| 21:41:01 | * | linuxstb_ curses latex's use of \ |
| 21:41:32 | tucoz | is it possible to fix the makefiles then? |
| 21:42:33 | linuxstb_ | Maybe by avoiding echo and using a different command |
| 21:42:47 | tucoz | cat perhaps? |
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| 21:46:45 | HardDisk_WP | disconnecting...good night |
| 21:46:58 | linuxstb_ | How could cat help? |
| 21:48:04 | GodEater | I would just ask our Ubuntu user's nicely to install bash as another part of the toolchain |
| 21:48:29 | GodEater | trying to accomodate too many other configurations is a recipe for a nasty headache for someone IMHO |
| 21:49:21 | tucoz | linuxstb, i am not sure actually |
| 21:49:44 | linuxstb_ | The problem is that if we force the Makefile to use /bin/bash, it breaks building on systems with other (but compatible) shells, and no bash. |
| 21:50:32 | GodEater | which systems are those / |
| 21:50:33 | GodEater | ? |
| 21:50:52 | Bagder | mac os x and freebsd etc I guess |
| 21:50:57 | linuxstb_ | Does cygwin always install bash? |
| 21:51:09 | GodEater | they don't use bash ? |
| 21:51:16 | linuxstb_ | Mac OS X has always come with bash, and since about the 2nd version bash is the default shell. |
| 21:51:18 | tucoz | then we can tell them to symlink /bin/bash to their shell |
| 21:51:21 | Bagder | ok |
| 21:51:46 | GodEater | I was going to say. The last time I used OSX I could have sworn it was a bash shell! |
| 21:51:54 | tucoz | is there an alternative to echo then? |
| 21:52:14 | linuxstb_ | Maybe /bin/echo, I don't know how common that is though. |
| 21:52:27 | linuxstb_ | (rather than the echo built into the shell) |
| 21:52:49 | GodEater | I have a /bin/echo |
| 21:53:16 | barrywardell | is there a function already in rockbox to convert unix time to the time format used by timefuncs.c? |
| 21:53:23 | GodEater | it's help text apparently doesn't recommend it's use |
| 21:53:30 | GodEater | it says "use your shell's implementation" |
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| 21:53:49 | GodEater | or rather "your shell's implementation usually supercedes" |
| 21:53:56 | barrywardell | actually, i want to convert seconds since 1-jan-1980 to the right format |
| 21:54:57 | GodEater | so not a unix time then |
| 21:55:18 | GodEater | that would be a unix time plus about ten years of seconds |
| 21:55:25 | barrywardell | no, 10 years off |
| 21:55:40 | barrywardell | i guess there's probably not... |
| 21:55:59 | GodEater | I don't even know if there's such a thing in libc |
| 21:56:03 | GodEater | let alone rockbox |
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| 21:56:21 | dan_a | The seconds, minutes and hours should be easy |
| 21:56:35 | Bagder | well, the time diff from 1-jan-1970 to 1-jan-1980 is fixed... |
| 21:57:04 | Bagder | so with libc it would be easy I mean |
| 21:57:22 | GodEater | there's a good reason I'm not a professional programmer anymore :) |
| 21:57:28 | Bagder | hehe |
| 21:57:40 | GodEater | other people are much better at it than me |
| 21:57:51 | Bagder | 315532800 seconds is the diff |
| 21:57:57 | barrywardell | Bagder: true. i could just add 10 years in seconds if there's already a function in rockbox. i don't see one though. would it be useful to have, or will i just do it in the rtc driver? |
| 21:58:42 | Bagder | do it in the driver for now, and if someone else wants to use it later we can move it out |
| 21:58:50 | Bagder | imo |
| 21:59:00 | barrywardell | k |
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| 21:59:59 | GodEater | does anyone know the mah figure for a default gigabeat F40 battery btw ? |
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| 22:01:09 | linuxstb_ | Back to the manual, I can think of 3 options: 1) Tell dash users to change /bin/sh; 2) Add SHELL=/bin/bash to the Makefiles; or 3) Use /bin/echo |
| 22:01:35 | barrywardell | at least setting the clock will be easy. there's already mktime in timefuncs.c :) |
| 22:01:35 | sonnybobiche | ok so i have found a serious bug in the video ipod version of rockbox |
| 22:01:44 | sonnybobiche | but nobody seems to want to hear about it |
| 22:02:04 | Bagder | sonnybobiche: there's a bug tracker you know |
| 22:02:12 | sonnybobiche | i did not! |
| 22:02:18 | sonnybobiche | excellent where to? |
| 22:02:21 | Bagder | check the left-side menu of the site |
| 22:02:46 | sonnybobiche | well... |
| 22:03:01 | sonnybobiche | i thought that was just like... reports of known bugs |
| 22:03:03 | Bagder | "bug reports" it says |
| 22:03:06 | sonnybobiche | i feel a bit silly now |
| 22:03:13 | Bagder | hehe |
| 22:03:54 | hcs | Bagder: I'm going to be committing a change suggested by a patch on FS soon, should I just ask for it to be closed or might I get that permission on FS? |
| 22:04:11 | hcs | FS #6603, btw |
| 22:04:13 | Bagder | hcs: tell me your FS name and I'll give you the superpowers |
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| 22:04:50 | hcs | Bagder: AdamGashlin |
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| 22:05:30 | Bagder | now you can close |
| 22:05:38 | hcs | huzzah |
| 22:06:11 | hcs | just gotta wait for the build tests to finish here |
| 22:06:19 | * | GodEater wonders whether sonnybobiche will search and see if his bug is already logged |
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| 22:07:53 | perl|work | GodEater 850mah i believe |
| 22:08:05 | GodEater | only 850 ? |
| 22:08:12 | GodEater | wow |
| 22:08:30 | GodEater | and what battery life are people getting ? |
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| 22:09:34 | tucoz | linuxstb, i like 2) best |
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| 22:11:52 | perl|work | GodEater up to 20 hours |
| 22:12:11 | GodEater | that is outstanding from an 850mah battery |
| 22:12:28 | ]RowaN[ | guys i used mi4code to decrypt sansa 1.03 firmware.. but when i try and dualboot into it, it just hangs on the Refresh Database screen. Is that normal? time for recovery mode perhaps.. |
| 22:12:50 | sonnybobiche | report submitted! |
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| 22:13:07 | Bagder | ]RowaN[: I don't think we've heard that before, no |
| 22:13:35 | ]RowaN[ | bugger |
| 22:13:56 | sonnybobiche | is there a particular build of rockbox that gets more attention than any other? |
| 22:13:58 | ]RowaN[ | it should work ok? |
| 22:14:29 | ]RowaN[ | im not sure what i should name the mi4 file i copy over when in recovery mode.. i gather 1.03 looks for firmware.mi4 instead of pp5022.mi4. i dont want to double brick my sansa =] |
| 22:14:32 | Bagder | ]RowaN[: I'm not sure if anyone tried with 1.03 before |
| 22:14:51 | Bagder | firmware.mi4 afaik |
| 22:14:59 | ]RowaN[ | here goes nothing.. |
| 22:15:24 | Bagder | and putting a bad mi4 on it in recovery mode does not brick it |
| 22:16:17 | Bagder | I would expect using the wrong file name just will make the player ignore the file |
| 22:16:34 | Bagder | but who knows |
| 22:16:59 | ]RowaN[ | ookkk.. recovery mode is not giving me the recovery mode screen |
| 22:17:19 | sonnybobiche | gah my bug was already reported, but there seems to be a slight variation |
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| 22:18:08 | ]RowaN[ | ladies and gentlemen we have a brick |
| 22:18:19 | Mikachu | congratulations |
| 22:18:38 | * | hcs prepares the 21-bootloader salute |
| 22:19:29 | Bagder | ]RowaN[: e200tool time... |
| 22:19:54 | Bagder | http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html#usbmodes |
| 22:20:58 | Zagor | you can never have too many usb modes :) |
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| 22:21:46 | Bagder | exactly |
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| 22:22:30 | ]RowaN[ | AH..... |
| 22:22:50 | ]RowaN[ | the rockbox Help page gives instructions for accessing MANUFACTURING mode under the heading "Recovery mode" |
| 22:23:04 | ]RowaN[ | on this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SansaE200TroubleShooting |
| 22:23:22 | ]RowaN[ | whats the process for recovery mode? |
| 22:23:38 | Bagder | see the url I pasted |
| 22:23:47 | Bagder | and about 7 lines down |
| 22:23:47 | ]RowaN[ | ah hold record |
| 22:23:55 | ]RowaN[ | got recovery mode yay! =] |
| 22:25:14 | ]RowaN[ | thanks bagder |
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| 22:25:24 | ]RowaN[ | just to clarify, that page i pasted is giving the wrong instructions under "Recovery Mode" title |
| 22:25:32 | Bagder | I've fixed it now |
| 22:25:37 | ]RowaN[ | cool |
| 22:25:50 | ]RowaN[ | and my dad said i would amount to nothing! |
| 22:25:50 | Xaar | hi |
| 22:26:00 | Bagder | :-) |
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| 22:26:43 | preglow | bah |
| 22:26:57 | preglow | i wish pagefault would have uploaded that bloody spc player of his |
| 22:27:08 | Xaar | i have a ask, with rockbox, can i use itunes for synchronate music of my computer to ipod 30gb 5.5 ? |
| 22:27:19 | Bagder | hcs: remember to ask for his name (FS #6603) and add it to the credits |
| 22:27:22 | TrueJournals | Xaar: if you use iTunesAgent you can |
| 22:27:26 | TrueJournals | (http://ita.sf.net) |
| 22:27:27 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: have you seen hcs patch? |
| 22:27:37 | Xaar | thank i go to seek this |
| 22:27:47 | TrueJournals | no problem |
| 22:28:03 | preglow | Genre9mp3: no... but he did talk about it, and it sounded nice |
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| 22:28:23 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: FS #6542 |
| 22:28:24 | hcs | Bagder: hm, ok, is there any way to contact him besides asking on the task? |
| 22:28:40 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: It's realtime and works pretty well |
| 22:28:41 | Bagder | hcs: nope, not if no other info has been given |
| 22:28:55 | Bagder | ir |
| 22:28:57 | Bagder | or |
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| 22:29:06 | Bagder | well, his email is available on his account page |
| 22:29:12 | Bagder | at least to me |
| 22:29:19 | preglow | Genre9mp3: pagefault said he had it going with all bells and whistles realtime on an ipod |
| 22:29:37 | Bagder | ... but that's probably only because I'm an admin |
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| 22:30:14 | preglow | Genre9mp3: doesn't that codec disable echo and interpolation and stuff to make it realtime? |
| 22:30:16 | hcs | Bagder: yeah, I don't have it |
| 22:30:33 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: hcs is here so you better ask him |
| 22:30:35 | Genre9mp3 | :) |
| 22:31:09 | hcs | preglow: we use linear interpolation now, but yeah, echo disabled on ipod |
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| 22:31:27 | hcs | and with that nearly everything is full speed |
| 22:31:40 | hcs | with echo there'd be a few that don't quite make it |
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| 22:32:00 | preglow | hcs: at 32khz? |
| 22:32:07 | hcs | preglow: yeah |
| 22:32:09 | Genre9mp3 | preglow: Also, if you are _that_ interested on pagefault's never submited patch... a "/whois pagefault" gives me "pagefault on #zsnes" ;) |
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| 22:32:51 | preglow | Genre9mp3: i know, and i've msged him, never got an answer |
| 22:33:02 | hcs | preglow: he claims to have lost it |
| 22:33:09 | preglow | hcs: well, that solves that, then |
| 22:33:18 | Genre9mp3 | hmmm.. weird |
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| 22:33:24 | Xaar | hum a another ask TrueJournals with itunesagent, i cant take my *.mp3 same as itunes original or edit my older playlist created by the real itunes? |
| 22:33:39 | preglow | people should post patches earlier |
| 22:34:02 | hcs | indeed, I know I like to post things as soon as they're working, before even |
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| 22:38:11 | preglow | the gaussian interpolation is table based, yes? |
| 22:38:18 | TrueJournals | Xaar: With ita, you can sync all your .mp3 files, but you cannot sync playlists I don't believe... I'm not really quite sure... |
| 22:38:38 | hcs | preglow: yes, and you can easily enable it when building the patch if you want to check it out |
| 22:38:57 | hcs | that and echo are controlled by preprocessor defines at the top of spc.c |
| 22:39:33 | Xaar | i think too of it's only for sync playlist into a hdd same as a usb key or other ^^ |
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| 22:39:59 | preglow | hcs: i'll give it a listen |
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| 22:41:19 | ]RowaN[ | hmm my sansa isnt showing up as a drive anymore, from OF usb connection. maybe my poor pc needs a little reboot.. its had a busy day |
| 22:41:24 | hcs | preglow: linear interpolation also uses sample caching which helps out as well |
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| 22:41:48 | preglow | hcs: sample caching as it caches a sample after having interpolated it at a specific pitch? |
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| 22:42:09 | hcs | preglow: no, just caches the decoded samples from BRR |
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| 22:43:18 | preglow | hcs: what's with putting the source files straight in codecs/ ? |
| 22:43:57 | hcs | preglow: blargg did that... I had it all in one file but he split it back out, and I was too lazy to make a subdirectory |
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| 22:50:58 | Xaar | good night all + |
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| 22:51:29 | preglow | hmm |
| 22:51:37 | preglow | there's some scratching here that doesn't sound too nice |
| 22:51:48 | preglow | i wonder if that's the resampler... |
| 22:51:58 | preglow | it is... |
| 22:52:42 | preglow | ooh, ff6 soundtrack |
| 22:52:47 | preglow | this deserves a whiskey |
| 22:54:02 | preglow | what's with the super long fading? rockbox does its own fading |
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| 22:55:37 | preglow | hcs: but it does sound decent, yes |
| 22:55:47 | hcs | preglow: er, fading... I read tags |
| 22:56:01 | preglow | h1x0 with echo and gaussian interpolation and it does skip from time to time, though, that needs fixing |
| 22:56:04 | preglow | hcs: i mean fading on pause |
| 22:56:43 | preglow | sweet lord, this resampler really, really needs fixing |
| 22:57:16 | hcs | preglow: well, echo and gaussian interpolation is disabled on anything but gigabeat builds, by default, the fading is slow because so much cpu is being used the fader doesn't get a lot of time |
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| 22:57:42 | ]RowaN[ | for anyone interested, here is the latest windows binary of mi4code http://rapidshare.com/files/14314056/mi4code_0.9.31-beta__January_25_2007_.zip.html |
| 22:57:43 | preglow | really now |
| 22:57:48 | preglow | that's pretty slow |
| 22:58:01 | ]RowaN[ | use at your own risk =] |
| 22:58:04 | hcs | that's why I have fade on pause disabled |
| 22:58:10 | Bagder | ]RowaN[: thanks |
| 22:58:16 | preglow | i have that too, but my settings seem to be reset |
| 22:58:18 | ]RowaN[ | np |
| 22:58:22 | preglow | hmm |
| 22:58:29 | preglow | dsp doesn't seem to be optimised at all |
| 22:59:12 | hcs | spc dsp? |
| 22:59:28 | preglow | yes |
| 22:59:36 | preglow | my dsp is at least somewhat optimised :) |
| 22:59:45 | hcs | any improvements I'd be glad to consider |
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| 23:00:19 | preglow | the fir filter at least is bEGGING for some nice emac asm |
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| 23:00:57 | hcs | oh, well, I'd rather avoid that, and I don't consider the fir to terribly important anyway |
| 23:00:59 | preglow | this thing is structured really badly for optimising, though |
| 23:01:01 | hcs | class now, later |
| 23:01:02 | preglow | it does A TON of stuff per sample |
| 23:01:21 | preglow | the fir is important, it does a ton of memory acceses |
| 23:01:39 | hcs | (as in, I can just throw it out and it doesn't bother me) |
| 23:02:06 | preglow | it would me |
| 23:02:28 | hcs | I look forward to checking out your improvements, bye |
| 23:02:39 | preglow | this dsp loop really is structured badly :/ |
| 23:03:06 | preglow | oh, you won't see any anytime soon, but perhaps in a couple of days |
| 23:03:07 | preglow | bye |
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| 23:07:43 | tucoz | bluebrother: i got virtualbox running with shared folders |
| 23:08:10 | tucoz | bluebrother: it only works if you download the proprietary build |
| 23:09:33 | tucoz | to use it, you install the virtualbox guest additions. that is on a iso in the program installation that you mount and run a script from (from within the vm) |
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| 23:20:03 | bospaadje | ok i got a question about the bug tracker, I'm having a problem similar to the one described in here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5199, but on my ipod nano |
| 23:20:24 | bospaadje | I was told that, because it has a colour screen, the fix will probably be completely different |
| 23:20:36 | bospaadje | should I open a new bug report for this? |
| 23:20:52 | Bagder | no, submit a comment in the existing one about it |
| 23:21:10 | bospaadje | ok, done that already |
| 23:21:47 | bospaadje | i just wondered, cause it mentions in the original bug report specifically the player it involves (mini2G or something) |
| 23:22:10 | * | preglow hugs rockbox |
| 23:22:45 | preglow | you can't beat esoteric format support |
| 23:24:21 | Mikachu | you're closing in on xmms |
| 23:24:34 | preglow | but xmms is crap |
| 23:24:52 | bospaadje | indeed |
| 23:24:54 | Mikachu | i mean in the esoteric format support department, it was not meant as an insult :) |
| 23:25:17 | preglow | Mikachu: it automatically becomes an insult when mentioned in a context apart from how much xmms sucks |
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| 23:25:32 | preglow | even then it's sketchy |
| 23:25:55 | preglow | sweet lord, this resampler is capable of some heavy-duty clicking |
| 23:25:56 | Mikachu | in that case i change my statement to {} |
| 23:26:15 | * | preglow summons people knowledgable about playback.c |
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| 23:29:11 | Mikachu | you missed |
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| 23:29:23 | TrueJournals | Hey, if anyone here was waiting for a newer version of the kernel_on_cop patch... I just made one and I'd like other people to test it |
| 23:29:47 | TrueJournals | Hard to say if it works or not... seems to be working fine for me though... |
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| 23:31:53 | Mikachu | you just changed yield() to sleep(HZ)? |
| 23:31:59 | preglow | if the resampler would suddenly stop clicking, this spc plugin is pretty decent as is |
| 23:32:17 | * | Mikachu hugs interdiff |
| 23:32:41 | Soul-Slayer | TrueJournals, I would love to test it for you, one little problem though... You couldn't compile me a H10 5gb version could you :$? |
| 23:33:43 | TrueJournals | Soul-Slayer: I'll do that right now... give me just a second... |
| 23:33:54 | Soul-Slayer | Thanks a lot. |
| 23:34:12 | TrueJournals | np |
| 23:34:39 | preglow | what does kernel_on_cop do again? put a kernel on the cop as well? |
| 23:34:50 | TrueJournals | yes |
| 23:34:57 | preglow | do we need a fully fledged kernel there? |
| 23:34:57 | Soul-Slayer | Not 'as well', but instead, I believe |
| 23:34:58 | Mikachu | i think it puts the kernel on the cop |
| 23:35:01 | Mikachu | not a |
| 23:35:01 | TrueJournals | and it enables audio playback on the cop instead of the main core |
| 23:35:08 | preglow | why would we want to put the kernel only on the cop? |
| 23:35:21 | TrueJournals | well, it's on both |
| 23:35:29 | TrueJournals | I'm not sure about the specifics :-\ |
| 23:35:30 | Soul-Slayer | So as to free up a processor for other tasks |
| 23:35:32 | Mikachu | i think linuxstb has something to do with it |
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| 23:36:42 | preglow | i still think using the second core for the codec only is pretty much what we want |
| 23:36:52 | preglow | but then again, i'm not involved in it at all |
| 23:37:02 | TrueJournals | it is... but I think we need a kernel on the second core to do that |
| 23:37:08 | TrueJournals | like I said, I'm not quite sure... |
| 23:37:13 | Mikachu | running the lcd and codec on separate cores would seem the smart thing to do |
| 23:37:28 | Soul-Slayer | Currently, the COP just sits there doing nothing. Pretty much anything running on it has to be a step forward :p |
| 23:37:43 | TrueJournals | it does that... lcd = core 1, codec = core 2 |
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| 23:38:39 | preglow | TrueJournals: then i don't see the need for a kernel on it |
| 23:38:50 | Soul-Slayer | I'm sure there is reasoning behind it |
| 23:38:55 | TrueJournals | Like I said... I'm really not quite sure about why |
| 23:39:04 | Soul-Slayer | Would have to speak to someone like barrywardell or linuxstb I guess |
| 23:39:12 | Zagor | the reasoning could be "it's good in case we want to do something else in the future" |
| 23:39:14 | TrueJournals | exactly |
| 23:39:22 | Zagor | ...which would not be a good reason |
| 23:39:29 | TrueJournals | lol |
| 23:39:35 | Mikachu | swedish logic |
| 23:39:41 | Zagor | KISS logic |
| 23:39:53 | Zagor | don't add code you don't use today |
| 23:40:24 | TrueJournals | I'm actually not quite even sure that at this point the kernel runs on the cop... it might just be the audio codec. With recent patches if I go to view OS stacks, I just see the codec on the second core... nothing else |
| 23:40:31 | Mikachu | i vaguely remember something about irqs only going to the main cpu, or something |
| 23:40:58 | Bagder | that could possibly be controlled somehow |
| 23:41:03 | preglow | inded |
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| 23:41:08 | preglow | i'm sure it can |
| 23:41:14 | Bagder | I hacked on a dual-core thing recently that could do it that way |
| 23:41:55 | preglow | i'm 99% certain i speaked to the ipl people about that |
| 23:42:08 | TrueJournals | Soul-Slayer: I'm zipping up the two files, I'll upload them to rapidshare.com and give you the link, OK? |
| 23:42:14 | preglow | lots of the reg addresses have separate addresse for cop and cpu anyway |
| 23:42:23 | preglow | well, some, at least |
| 23:42:31 | Soul-Slayer | Sure thing. Two files? |
| 23:42:32 | XavierGr | ah preglow, and I was wondering what all these clicks on SPC files are... |
| 23:42:42 | preglow | XavierGr: that's the resampler, tell it i said hi |
| 23:43:00 | TrueJournals | two files: rockbox.zip (rockbox itsself), and H10.mi4 (new bootloader... not quite sure if you need it.. I think you do though) |
| 23:43:01 | XavierGr | but I thought it was coming from the SPCs because I have some ripped SPCs that click too |
| 23:43:09 | preglow | XavierGr: they really shouldn't |
| 23:43:17 | Soul-Slayer | Aha, okay |
| 23:43:17 | Mikachu | an spc is just a memdump, not a recording |
| 23:43:51 | Soul-Slayer | I'll just remove my current rockbox setup |
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| 23:44:03 | XavierGr | preglow: beats me |
| 23:44:14 | TrueJournals | It's uploading... |
| 23:44:16 | XavierGr | when the resampler is going to get better :P |
| 23:44:28 | XavierGr | ^+? |
| 23:44:52 | TrueJournals | Soul-Slayer: http://rapidshare.com/files/14320116/56-cop-rockbox.zip |
| 23:44:55 | preglow | when someone figures out what's wrong with it |
| 23:45:07 | TrueJournals | Put H10.mi4 in your system folder and extract rockbox.zip to the root of your H10 |
| 23:45:11 | preglow | i've had looks at the resampler code itself, and i can't find anything wrong |
| 23:45:16 | preglow | i suspect it's in playback.c the error is |
| 23:45:19 | TrueJournals | let me know how it works |
| 23:45:24 | Soul-Slayer | Okay, I'll take it from here, thank you. |
| 23:45:31 | TrueJournals | no problem |
| 23:46:51 | XavierGr | I wish the plaback system was somewhat more stable... |
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| 23:49:22 | Soul-Slayer | Right, first off this bootloader isn't working, so I'll try it with my old one again |
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| 23:50:03 | TrueJournals | hm... the first bootloader I made for my H10 didn't work either |
| 23:50:03 | Soul-Slayer | Okay, were in. How would you like me to test it? |
| 23:50:16 | TrueJournals | does it seem to be running at normal speed? |
| 23:50:34 | Soul-Slayer | Scrolls up and down this list of my root directory fine, yes |
| 23:50:34 | TrueJournals | Test it by playing a music file and trying to play a game like jewels... see if the music pauses at all |
| 23:50:42 | Soul-Slayer | Okay, hold on |
| 23:51:42 | JohnyTheHess | good evening to you all. I would lilke to speak to someone who is familiar with using rockbox on the sandisk sansa series 250? hope I have that right. I have the 8 gig and would like to know if before loading the files if I need to put it in to a specivic mode and if theer is a shortcut to do this? this was not specified in the manual. |
| 23:52:17 | Soul-Slayer | Very interesting... Let me try running Jewels without playing music |
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| 23:52:30 | TrueJournals | does the music pause when playing music? |
| 23:53:01 | Soul-Slayer | No, and Jewels appears to run at full speed too, atleast I think so, thats why I am testing it without music |
| 23:53:12 | TrueJournals | in that case, it seems that my patch works well :-D |
| 23:53:22 | Soul-Slayer | Yep, Jewels runs same speed with and without music |
| 23:53:32 | TrueJournals | one more thing... |
| 23:53:32 | Zagor | woo, check this out: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/tailreader.pl?date=20070131 |
| 23:53:36 | Soul-Slayer | I'll try it with the 'Plasma' plugin, that always lagged like crazy when I ran it with Music, hold on |
| 23:53:40 | Zagor | I just need to make it autoscroll too |
| 23:53:56 | Mikachu | ajaxy |
| 23:54:03 | preglow | Zagor: oooh, snappy |
| 23:54:29 | Soul-Slayer | Plasma still runs jumpily it seems |
| 23:54:33 | Zagor | Mikachu: yeah you'd think so, but this is actually plain http. |
| 23:54:37 | TrueJournals | When you still have music playing, go to the rockbox menu, go to Info > Debug > View OS stacks, see if it says (1) B 4 codec at the bottom (well, at least make sure it says (1) before codec) |
| 23:54:45 | Soul-Slayer | Ok |
| 23:55:28 | Soul-Slayer | It flashes between |
| 23:55:28 | Soul-Slayer | (1) *R 4 codec: 93% |
| 23:55:28 | Soul-Slayer | (1) S 4 codec: 93% |
| 23:55:33 | Soul-Slayer | But definitely has that (1), yes |
| 23:55:38 | TrueJournals | cool |
| 23:55:45 | TrueJournals | then I would say my patch works well :-D |
| 23:56:05 | Soul-Slayer | Well done :p |
| 23:56:05 | tchan | I wanted to know if a used iriver h320 is worth upgrading (battery and hard drive) to run rockbox on it ? A friend is willing to sell his player cheap (bad battery). |
| 23:56:07 | Soul-Slayer | Where was the problem? |
| 23:56:15 | TrueJournals | I duno |
| 23:56:17 | Soul-Slayer | Lol |
| 23:56:21 | TrueJournals | I just resycned kernel_on_cop_6 |
| 23:56:28 | Soul-Slayer | Interesting |
| 23:56:34 | TrueJournals | maybe barry left out something in kernel_on_cop_7 or something... |
| 23:56:40 | Soul-Slayer | Quite possibly |
| 23:56:45 | TrueJournals | anyway, I gotta go for now... I'll be back later |
| 23:56:53 | Soul-Slayer | Okay then, well done :P. See you around. |
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| 23:58:13 | JohnyTheHess | ?``Good evening can anyone tell me if I need to put the sansa sandisk player in a particular mode for loading the rockbox files and if theer is a shortcut to doing this rather then using the menus? |
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