| 00:00:08 | decayedcell | iPod 5G, but I can't build it if it doesn't patch |
| 00:01:25 | Soap | odd, that is the start of the second half of what I changed, I don't see what's wrong. I also built for a 5G and didn't have that error pop up. |
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| 00:02:27 | decayedcell | error whilst patching |
| 00:02:51 | Soap | I even reverted and then repatched to check. |
| 00:03:05 | decayedcell | well i just downloaded a fresh source |
| 00:03:12 | decayedcell | and i got the same error again |
| 00:03:14 | decayedcell | *baffled* |
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| 00:03:58 | Soap | shooting in the dark here - did you do a "svn up" when you got the fresh source? |
| 00:04:30 | Soap | or did you wipe your rockbox directory and get the whole thing from scratch? |
| 00:07:26 | decayedcell | wipe |
| 00:07:30 | decayedcell | then svn co |
| 00:08:05 | decayedcell | what's even more puzzling is that line 366 merely says Index: firmware/export/pp5020.h |
| 00:11:59 | Soap | Someone with more knowledge than me is going to have to set me straight. I don't see what is wrong, and it worked here. |
| 00:12:21 | decayedcell | I think I'll just try manual code injection |
| 00:14:09 | petur | hahaha I'm testing a patch for a possible issue I can't reproduce, and my fix actually causes it to happen :/ - anybody with knowledge about h300 backlight and remotes around? |
| 00:14:18 | decayedcell | -#define CPU_INT_STAT (*(volatile unsigned long*)(0xcf001000)) |
| 00:14:19 | decayedcell | -#define CPU_INT_EN (*(volatile unsigned long*)(0xcf001024)) |
| 00:14:19 | decayedcell | -#define CPU_INT_CLR (*(volatile unsigned long*)(0xcf001028)) |
| 00:14:31 | decayedcell | how come these three lines are removed in 11.3, but aren't in 11.2 |
| 00:14:41 | decayedcell | this is in pp5002.h |
| 00:15:28 | Soap | ahh poop, I know I forgot to paste something, |
| 00:15:42 | Soap | I fucked it all up |
| 00:16:48 | decayedcell | you're missing 3 lines |
| 00:16:49 | decayedcell | rofl |
| 00:17:07 | decayedcell | it just so happens if you remove the minuses from the above three lines |
| 00:17:13 | decayedcell | @@ -70,9 +70,12 @@ matches up |
| 00:17:15 | Soap | yea, 1/3rd of what needed synced |
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| 00:22:58 | decayedcell | so Soap, figured out what is missing? |
| 00:23:30 | Soap | you mean the malformed bit? |
| 00:23:39 | decayedcell | yeah |
| 00:24:08 | decayedcell | even after removing the "-" from the above three lines doesn't get rid of that malformed error hmm |
| 00:29:48 | decayedcell | done |
| 00:29:49 | decayedcell | fixed it |
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| 00:38:09 | Soap | decayedcell: I was going to ask if you wanted to try one for me. |
| 00:38:11 | Soap | but oh well. |
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| 00:41:04 | Ranbee | hi, my mum gave me her ipod video. i've never got it working though on my computer - linux. i don't know anything about ipods, but can someone tell me if rockbox works ok on a 60gig ipod video, please? |
| 00:41:12 | Soap | it does |
| 00:41:28 | Soap | decayedcell: ok, now we got that - let's do a fun one! |
| 00:41:34 | Ranbee | great, thanks, i'll try and get it all working now xD |
| 00:41:48 | Soap | #5594 needs the menu entries reworked for the new menu system. |
| 00:42:21 | Soap | and when I say reworked, I mean rewritten. |
| 00:42:41 | decayedcell | hmm |
| 00:43:27 | decayedcell | well er, how about you do the writing Soap, and uh, I'll do the testing xD |
| 00:45:47 | * | petur wonders why doing GPIO_READ while in the recording screen could cause huge backlight delays |
| 00:46:22 | decayedcell | hmm just noticed some spelling errors in the TP Diffenbach patch get_ipod_scroll_wheel_acceration_and_cps |
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| 00:55:28 | Ranbee | hi, is this the correct download for my ipod 60gb video? - http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip |
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| 00:55:37 | decayedcell | yep |
| 00:55:40 | Ranbee | thanks |
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| 00:57:40 | Soap | don't forget the fonts. |
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| 01:00:58 | Llorean | JdGordon: As far as I'm concerned, the "Menu" button should summon, and banish, the root menu. Basically, if you use the Menu button to bring up the root menu, pressing it again should return you to where you called it from. |
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| 01:01:27 | Llorean | JdGordon: Much like the settings menu worked prior to it. |
| 01:01:47 | JdGordon | hmm... i guess that could work |
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| 01:02:55 | Llorean | It's what most people expect to happen when they press menu a second time. |
| 01:05:47 | dionoea | like pressing the menu button when in the settings screen would take you back to the WPS ? |
| 01:05:53 | dionoea | that doesn't work anymore :/ |
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| 01:07:25 | Ranbee | when i unpack the fonts archive it's in a directory called .rockbox, i can't mv that .rockbox directory to the ipod root folder because i moved the other firmware directory called .rockbox there already :| so does the fonts directory go inside the .rockbox firmware directory? |
| 01:08:04 | decayedcell | you can't overwrite? |
| 01:08:20 | decayedcell | the folders inside .rockbox in the fonts package go inside the .rockbox folder on the ipod |
| 01:08:28 | linuxstb | Just unzip it directly there - i.e. "unzip rockbox-fonts.zip -d /mnt/ipod/" |
| 01:09:01 | Ranbee | decayedcell: ok thanks, i was just abit confused as it said move it to the root directory. i'll put it in the .rockbox one. thanks. |
| 01:10:12 | Kasperle | easiest would be to go to the ipod root directory, and just run "unzip /path/to/whereverthefontsare.zip" |
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| 01:22:04 | Ranbee | WHOOP i got it working XD thanks for the help :D |
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| 01:28:49 | Ranbee | im stuck in asteroids :| is there an easy way to stop playing the game and go back to the menu? |
| 01:30:09 | decayedcell | select + menu? |
| 01:31:12 | Stalwart | root menu is awesome |
| 01:31:22 | Stalwart | it's exactly what i missed in rockbox |
| 01:31:56 | Ranbee | i just killed myself. i'll try it out next time. thanks. it's great, i love it already. i'm going to try and put some podcasts on it. is there a program in linux that works well with rockbox? |
| 01:32:41 | Ranbee | i'm going to read the manual too now as well... |
| 01:33:20 | decayedcell | Soap, cop patch needs updating again haha |
| 01:33:27 | barrywardell | sorry! |
| 01:33:34 | decayedcell | nvm i'll do it |
| 01:33:37 | barrywardell | it's an easy update though |
| 01:33:47 | Soap | it was before but I managed to foul it up. |
| 01:33:56 | Soap | :( |
| 01:34:06 | Soap | least I know what I did wrong, now, though. |
| 01:36:09 | Kasperle | cop support for the ipod? |
| 01:36:22 | Soap | what are the implications of "#define CONFIG_USBOTG USBOTG_ARC" in config-ipodvideo.h ? |
| 01:36:33 | Stalwart | what's cop? |
| 01:36:42 | Soap | the CoProcessor |
| 01:38:17 | barrywardell | Soap: not much for the moment |
| 01:38:30 | decayedcell | funnily enough, some of the interrupts in the cop patch are in SVN already |
| 01:39:07 | barrywardell | that's because I just committed them, along with a load more that weren't in it |
| 01:39:11 | Ranbee | i got one last question - does the back light use alot of battery? i want to make it stay on for 10 secs instead of 5. |
| 01:39:19 | Soap | Ranbee: yes |
| 01:39:30 | Ranbee | oh, ill leave it then, thanks |
| 01:39:41 | Soap | but I don't think 5 seconds here and there will kill you. |
| 01:39:48 | Soap | (5 seconds additional) |
| 01:40:14 | Ranbee | yeap, thanks :) it's great! |
| 01:42:19 | Soap | so, barrywardell, can you (if you want to) explain what the #defines you added from IPL's wiki are supposed to/will do? |
| 01:43:22 | barrywardell | well, a lot of those address were already used in Rockbox code, but with no explanation of what they were for |
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| 01:43:52 | barrywardell | and some more will be useful in the future (eg. cop int ones) |
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| 01:44:32 | barrywardell | they don't change the resulting binary, just make the code easier to read |
| 01:46:41 | decayedcell | updated |
| 01:46:46 | Stalwart | i'd like to see ipods suspending |
| 01:46:51 | decayedcell | lol just ran another svn up seems like another update |
| 01:47:56 | Stalwart | does ipod's suspend is hardware or software? |
| 01:48:31 | Stalwart | i mean, does firmware needs to reinit all hardware to continue running after waking up? |
| 01:49:26 | decayedcell | hmm maybe it suspends to the firmware partition |
| 01:49:43 | decayedcell | e.g. the 96MB firmware partition on the 5/5.5G iPods |
| 01:49:52 | decayedcell | not all of it is used up by the firmware itself |
| 01:50:10 | decayedcell | so it might dump the current state of the iPod onto this partition iono |
| 01:52:13 | linuxstb | The ipods do three things - sleep, hibernate and power-off. Sleep just runs in a very low-power mode and hibernate writes the RAM to the firmware partition and (I assume) powers off. |
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| 01:58:08 | markun | hi HoffmannP, how's the ZVM project coming along? |
| 01:59:21 | Soap | Ok, here is the dumbest question of the year: |
| 01:59:52 | Soap | What does make veryclean do which is more or less than me just rm ing the build directory's contents? |
| 02:00 |
| 02:00:57 | JdGordon | it rm's to tools dir as well |
| 02:01:52 | Soap | dumb question #2 = what are the implications of that? |
| 02:02:40 | Soap | I normally just delete my build directory and make it again, or use a new build directory every build. I don't know how dumb that pratice is. |
| 02:02:59 | linuxstb | I rarely do a make clean. |
| 02:03:14 | JdGordon | make veryclean is almost never really needed |
| 02:03:29 | linuxstb | Only if I do things like svn revert, which will change the timestamps of the files into the past, confusing make. |
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| 02:04:42 | Soap | what do I want to do to maximize ccache? |
| 02:04:51 | Soap | s/what/which |
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| 02:06:15 | JdGordon | its either on or off isnt it? |
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| 02:07:12 | Soap | I was afraid that possibly by using a new directory every time I was "fooling" ccache |
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| 02:11:12 | Ranbee | can i make a directory called podcasts in my ipod root directory, then cp files to it after i've mounted it? or do i need to make somekind of database text file? i've never managed to get any software working with my ipod. |
| 02:11:24 | Ranbee | *copy |
| 02:11:56 | MirrorImage | I can't get my podcasts to appear in my podcast folder :< |
| 02:12:27 | MirrorImage | On my ipod |
| 02:13:07 | Llorean | Ranbee: Yes, you can just cp files over. |
| 02:13:18 | Llorean | MirrorImage: If you're referring to the retail firmware, that has nothing to do with Rockbox. |
| 02:13:21 | Ranbee | Llorean: great, thanks xD |
| 02:13:24 | MirrorImage | Oh I know. |
| 02:13:31 | MirrorImage | I was just saying. |
| 02:16:35 | HoffmannP | Ups, sorry, was lockingon other channel, have some Wlan-problems |
| 02:17:37 | HoffmannP | markun: the zvm project, hm, lets say we are developing our plan for the success but we didn't have taken any further steps. We are still in the progress of dissambeling, collecting and scanning. |
| 02:18:41 | Ranbee | thanks everyone. i can't believe how good rockbox is, i've never got my ipod working before i installed rockbox, now it works perfectly WHOOP |
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| 03:38:27 | timberwolf19 | hi, I need major help! |
| 03:38:47 | timberwolf19 | you see, I installed rockbox on an ipod video |
| 03:39:15 | timberwolf19 | now, when I disconnected, I got "loading rockbox bootloader...missing partition" |
| 03:39:44 | timberwolf19 | what do I do now? |
| 03:39:57 | MirrorImage | Well. |
| 03:40:21 | MirrorImage | If I'm the only one active, I can't be much help, but I have rockbox on my ipod video, so I'll give it a shot. |
| 03:40:29 | Llorean | timberwolf19: Which type of iPod Video? |
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| 03:41:00 | timberwolf19 | ok |
| 03:41:08 | timberwolf19 | do you have msn messinger? that would be much easier for me |
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| 03:41:38 | MirrorImage | It's just as easy, if not easier, in irc, unless you're like using a java webchat. |
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| 03:41:43 | timberwolf19 | the_conman283@hotmail.com |
| 03:42:02 | timberwolf19 | no, with a screen reader its a bit hard, it combines the things you say with the users who are logged on |
| 03:42:09 | timberwolf19 | I need a better script |
| 03:42:14 | decayedcell | this channel is logged, probably not a good idea to disclose your email here |
| 03:42:28 | MirrorImage | Bit too late for that. |
| 03:42:33 | timberwolf19 | oh err |
| 03:42:37 | decayedcell | aye lol |
| 03:42:45 | timberwolf19 | um |
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| 03:46:20 | timberwolf19 | so |
| 03:46:37 | timberwolf19 | what does it mean when you connect the ipod video to the pc, and it starts immitting beeping sounds? |
| 03:46:50 | decayedcell | must be something wrong there |
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| 03:47:15 | timberwolf19 | oh, wonderful... |
| 03:47:31 | Soap | timberwolf19, are you Tyler Wood from the mailing list? |
| 03:47:31 | timberwolf19 | I'm kinda in a minor panic, if you know what I mean... |
| 03:47:41 | timberwolf19 | yes I am |
| 03:47:58 | Soap | Llorean: timberwolf19 has a 30GB video. |
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| 03:48:30 | timberwolf19 | yes, I'm tyler wood |
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| 03:48:46 | Soap | timberwolf19: you mentioned in your last email message that you pressed play and select hoping to get it into disk mode. |
| 03:48:50 | timberwolf19 | yes |
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| 03:49:05 | timberwolf19 | I'm not sure if it did or not, but the pc gave me the sign it was connected |
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| 03:49:16 | Soap | timberwolf19: If the ipod is frozen while trying to boot Rockbox, the key-combo will not work at that time. |
| 03:49:19 | decayedcell | well if its connected |
| 03:49:25 | decayedcell | the iPod could be in recovery mode |
| 03:49:31 | timberwolf19 | well, how do I unfreeze it/reset it? |
| 03:49:32 | decayedcell | if you open iTunes you might be able to restore it |
| 03:49:41 | decayedcell | select + menu |
| 03:49:44 | timberwolf19 | I don't have itunes on this machine |
| 03:49:53 | MirrorImage | Get it. |
| 03:49:58 | MirrorImage | It'll make it a lot easier. |
| 03:50:04 | * | decayedcell nods |
| 03:50:19 | timberwolf19 | ok, hold on. let me go get the disk. as of now, it won't connect |
| 03:50:35 | * | timberwolf19 cringes in terror |
| 03:50:38 | Soap | timberwolf19: you need to press Select + Menu until the ipod resets, you should be able to feel the hard drive pause, then restart spinning when it reboots. As soon as it starts to reboot, then you press Select + Play to enter disk mode. |
| 03:50:39 | decayedcell | well using the latest iTunes would be desirable |
| 03:51:12 | timberwolf19 | er, hold on a second |
| 03:51:14 | saratoga | is there some page out there describing how the ipod retail software was originally reverse engineered by the ipl people? |
| 03:51:46 | decayedcell | saratoga maybe on the dev blog? |
| 03:51:50 | timberwolf19 | from an idle posision, the hard drive just spun up. |
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| 03:53:48 | timberwolf19 | ok, I just pressec select+play- and connected. No sound from the pc, nor is it in my computer |
| 03:55:13 | decayedcell | does it say please do not disconnect |
| 03:55:45 | timberwolf19 | I don't know, I don't have sighted assistance around... |
| 03:56:18 | decayedcell | on the actual iPod does it say please do not disconnect |
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| 03:57:44 | timberwolf19 | I don't have sighted assistance around...hold on a second. I just got some. Its a blank screen...argh! |
| 03:58:36 | decayedcell | okay so the iPod is connected to the computer now? |
| 03:59:11 | timberwolf19 | yes |
| 03:59:25 | decayedcell | k the hold menu + select for 5 seconds, wait for it to reboot |
| 03:59:40 | decayedcell | when the Apple logo comes up on the black screen, hold menu + play and see if it boots into disk mode |
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| 04:01:02 | timberwolf19 | ok, I pressed select+menu for five seconds. No hard drive spin-up... |
| 04:02:17 | decayedcell | then hold down select + menu until it reboots |
| 04:02:28 | decayedcell | if it doesn't reboot then you're in strife |
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| 04:02:58 | timberwolf19 | ok, you mean the 12:00 posision on the click wheel and the button in the middle, right, when the ipod is facing you headphone connector at the upper right-hand side? |
| 04:03:36 | decayedcell | yeah the Menu button is labelled |
| 04:03:41 | decayedcell | the select button is the middle one |
| 04:04:34 | decayedcell | yeah 12:00 position |
| 04:04:46 | decayedcell | closest to under the screen |
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| 04:08:02 | timberwolf19 | ok |
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| 04:08:23 | timberwolf19 | should it be connected to the pc? |
| 04:08:55 | decayedcell | it doesn't matter in the reboot process, however, if its connected then you can boot it into disk mode and then hopefully restore it |
| 04:09:11 | decayedcell | (that is if it reboots by holding menu + select) |
| 04:09:28 | timberwolf19 | ok, it rebooted with it disconnected from the pc. |
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| 04:09:47 | decayedcell | okay then try connecting it to the PC now and rebooting it |
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| 04:10:30 | timberwolf19 | absolutely nothing happens |
| 04:10:53 | decayedcell | that's strange, it should reboot regardless if its connected to the PC or not |
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| 04:11:51 | decayedcell | okay then, reboot it without connecting it to the PC |
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| 04:12:13 | decayedcell | when you feel the hard drive spin up, hold menu + play |
| 04:12:28 | rbrito_ | Hi there... |
| 04:12:28 | decayedcell | play is on the opposite side of the scroll wheel to the menu button |
| 04:12:51 | rbrito_ | I have two devices where I would like to try rockbox on. |
| 04:13:01 | decayedcell | then timberwolf19, connect the iPod to the PC |
| 04:13:03 | MirrorImage | Them being? |
| 04:13:18 | timberwolf19 | it works! |
| 04:13:22 | MirrorImage | : D |
| 04:13:38 | decayedcell | okay good. Now if you install iTunes, you'll be able to restore it |
| 04:13:49 | MirrorImage | He's working on that, I think. |
| 04:13:54 | timberwolf19 | ok, the ipod just beeped. |
| 04:14:00 | timberwolf19 | just one single beep. |
| 04:15:03 | rbrito_ | MirrorImage, the first one is a pretty generic MP3 with both an FM tuner and an microphone. |
| 04:15:37 | rbrito_ | MirrorImage, I can provide the dump of the player in a webserver... |
| 04:15:47 | rbrito_ | It is quite small once bzip2'ed. |
| 04:15:58 | rbrito_ | I would love if it played vorbis. |
| 04:16:32 | MirrorImage | I probably can't help you there. :/ |
| 04:16:39 | rbrito_ | It records audio in a wav format called IMADPCM, if I am not mistaken. |
| 04:17:01 | rbrito_ | MirrorImage, I am willing to take pictures of it, fiddling with it etc. |
| 04:17:24 | decayedcell | what you are essentially asking for is a new port rbrito_ :p |
| 04:18:12 | rbrito_ | decayedcell, Yes essentially, that's it... |
| 04:18:31 | rbrito_ | But I am willing to help as much as I can. |
| 04:18:56 | decayedcell | there's a checklist for submitting a port request somewhere on the Wiki I think |
| 04:19:16 | rbrito_ | decayedcell, thanks, I will check it there... |
| 04:19:16 | saratoga | its actaully instructions for porting it yourself |
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| 04:19:42 | rbrito_ | saratoga, thanks. I will try to see if it is beyond my capabilities or not. |
| 04:20:16 | rbrito_ | I have no experience trying to work in a very low level... :-( |
| 04:20:54 | rbrito_ | Anyway, changing the subject a little, would there be hope to get an iPod 2nd generation working with rockbox? |
| 04:21:16 | rbrito_ | Or is it completely out of question? |
| 04:21:49 | decayedcell | someone has to decrypt the firmware first |
| 04:22:58 | rbrito_ | decayedcell, oh, I see. I thought that it was already partially done with the work of the other iPods... |
| 04:23:16 | rbrito_ | Thanks for letting me know that the work is not that trivial... |
| 04:23:45 | decayedcell | the 2G Nano uses different firmware compared to the other iPods |
| 04:23:55 | decayedcell | all the iPods before it didn't have encrypted firmware |
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| 04:24:47 | rbrito_ | decayedcell, I am talking about the 2nd gen original iPod, not the Nano... |
| 04:26:55 | decayedcell | ah lol not sure then |
| 04:27:20 | rbrito_ | decayedcell, no problems then... Thank you very much... |
| 04:27:36 | rbrito_ | Thanks for all the help. |
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| 04:27:50 | decayedcell | timberwolf19 any luck in restoring? |
| 04:28:02 | * | timberwolf19 shakes his head |
| 04:28:07 | timberwolf19 | no |
| 04:28:35 | timberwolf19 | I got it connected. I got itunes installed, and was just about to get sighted assistance when the player started beeping, and finally disconnected itself |
| 04:28:48 | decayedcell | hm |
| 04:28:56 | Shaid | has someone dumped the encrypted firmware from the nano? |
| 04:29:59 | decayedcell | afaik nope |
| 04:30:10 | decayedcell | timberwolf19 okay then is iTunes running atm? |
| 04:30:42 | decayedcell | if its running, try disconnecting the iPod, rebooting it with Menu + Select, then putting it in Disk Mode with Play + Select |
| 04:30:53 | decayedcell | then connect the iPod to the computer and iTunes might find it |
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| 04:46:02 | saratoga | a port to the Ipod 2G wouldn't be hard, the 3G is basically the same and already sort of running |
| 04:46:20 | saratoga | its just theres no one with 2Gs left, andt he CPU is so slow it'd take a lot of optimization just to get it working |
| 04:46:36 | saratoga | at present, the 3G can't do much beyond play flac |
| 04:46:39 | saratoga | its so slow |
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| 05:40:38 | ze | /math 19.27+18.48+3.98+11+13.24+4.24 |
| 05:40:40 | ze | doh |
| 05:40:46 | ze | where'd that space come from :p |
| 05:40:54 | BigMac | Do I apply a patch before or after I ../tools/configure |
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| 05:43:56 | BigMac | and does Hunk #1 succeeded at 7 with fuzz 2. mean it worked? |
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| 05:52:41 | webguest90 | Question for anyone: If I try to compile a homemade c++ plugin for iPod, will it work? (arm-elf-gcc can compile c++ code) |
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| 06:03:46 | bonbonthejon | webguest90: If you find out, let me know |
| 06:07:00 | BigMac | http://rafb.net/p/uuTbxq62.html |
| 06:07:12 | BigMac | can anyone look at that and tell me what is going on |
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| 06:11:20 | Soap | BigMac: I am far from the man on these issues, but your final error looks like a problem with the dict you added. |
| 06:11:28 | Dirka | i have a gigabeat s60 and there was something about there being a version for it |
| 06:11:39 | Soap | Dirka: nope. |
| 06:11:42 | Soap | not the S series. |
| 06:11:48 | BigMac | Hm, how could that be so |
| 06:12:03 | Soap | I don't know - how old is it? |
| 06:12:14 | BigMac | The patch author just released it this morning |
| 06:12:15 | Soap | Perhaps something it is trying to call in the API has changed? |
| 06:12:28 | Dirka | uhh, idk, i just got it last wednsday |
| 06:12:32 | Soap | there have been commits since tis morning. |
| 06:12:56 | Dirka | is there a way to check? |
| 06:12:57 | Soap | sorry Dirka, I was talking to BigMac. |
| 06:13:05 | Dirka | oh |
| 06:13:18 | Soap | The answer to your question is simply there is no port for the S series. |
| 06:13:28 | Dirka | port? |
| 06:13:33 | BigMac | That has to be crazy for patch authors |
| 06:13:34 | bonbonthejon | Dirka: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/TargetStatus#Toshiba_Gigabeat_S_S30_S60 |
| 06:13:50 | BigMac | Your patch goes out of sync like every day |
| 06:14:00 | bonbonthejon | Dirka: the code is ported to different players |
| 06:14:11 | Soap | BigMac: I'm speculating. |
| 06:14:12 | bonbonthejon | Dirka: the site says that the S60 is in development |
| 06:14:41 | Dirka | bonbonthejon:Does that meen that theyre is a beta version? |
| 06:14:56 | scorche | no...that mans that it is in development |
| 06:14:58 | bonbonthejon | Dirka: i dont know, go to that link i sent you, thats all i know |
| 06:15:13 | Soap | BigMac: is that your only patch? |
| 06:15:29 | BigMac | Yah and I changed the bmp |
| 06:15:34 | BigMac | but that is it |
| 06:16:06 | Soap | rocklife.c failed for me tonight. |
| 06:16:16 | BigMac | lol |
| 06:16:35 | Soap | I'm guessing the same thing. But maybe someone with more knowledge than me will tell us someday. |
| 06:16:38 | Soap | ;) |
| 06:17:10 | Dirka | "New ports here means that Rockbox does not yet function properly enough to make people want to use it instead of the original firmware." ya..what does that meen |
| 06:18:05 | scorche | in otherwords, it is somewhere between not working at all and working enough to be useful |
| 06:18:11 | Soap | where did you find that quote Dirka? |
| 06:18:20 | bonbonthejon | Dirka: a new port is one where it is in development, unlike the more established ports |
| 06:18:39 | scorche | well, technically, all ports are in development |
| 06:20:09 | Dirka | ok, i see, so, is there anyone i can contact about maybe getting a beta, i am willing to try it |
| 06:20:33 | scorche | there is no beta |
| 06:20:59 | Dirka | ah |
| 06:21:08 | Dirka | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatSInfo#Other_Link |
| 06:21:32 | Dirka | this page is getting confusing, it shows random linux stuff that i dont entirely get |
| 06:22:26 | Dirka | does that linux stuff have to do with the origonal firmware? |
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| 06:22:58 | scorche | no |
| 06:24:11 | Dirka | okey....so... |
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| 06:40:23 | SG_Dirka | anyone in this forum participated in the forum post about the gigabeat? (markun, ptw419, toffe, etc..) |
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| 07:45:53 | learner | Hello, I'm looking at getting a new MP3 player, any reccomendations for what would work best with Rockbox that has a higher capacity hard drive? |
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| 07:47:46 | JdGordon | the x5 is still the most recommended i think |
| 07:47:52 | JdGordon | or the gigabeat F/X |
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| 07:55:14 | Soap | Gigabeat wins on eye-candy |
| 07:55:48 | Soap | if that is where you put your stock. |
| 07:56:35 | Llorean | Gigabeat also wins on 'If you can make it skip during playback, you're pretty darn impressive" |
| 07:57:27 | Soap | x5 can record, gigabeat can not. |
| 07:57:37 | Llorean | x5 also has FM radio, doesn't it? |
| 07:58:09 | Soap | though maybe if you plugged your guitar into an amp and pumped it up the headphone jack you could get _something_ ;) |
| 07:58:21 | Llorean | Hahaha |
| 07:58:22 | Soap | (don't take that one seriously) |
| 07:58:24 | scorche | oh boy... |
| 07:58:36 | learner | Don't worry, I'm not that dumb |
| 07:58:52 | Soap | Trust me, the disclaimer was needed. |
| 07:58:53 | learner | The x5 does have a radio, that is a nice feature |
| 07:59:31 | learner | Does the x5 dualboot as well, video support? |
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| 08:00:15 | Llorean | Rockbox doesn't really have 'working' video support yet. |
| 08:00:24 | Llorean | It can play clips of ~20mb or less |
| 08:00:53 | Llorean | And there's an unofficial Dual Boot patch for X5, the person who was working on it didn't seem to feel the urge to continue to work out the problems that were keeping it from being included |
| 08:01:02 | Soap | gigabeat will reign supreme as Rockbox video target unless a miracle comes along and does the iPod video Broadcom chip. |
| 08:01:36 | Llorean | Soap: I'm putting my money on the iPod Nano |
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| 08:05:53 | learner | The x5 looks like a good choice, are there any real reasons to go with the Gigabeat other than that it looks nice and that it is better choice for video? |
| 08:06:20 | Soap | might be cheaper. |
| 08:06:25 | Soap | has a faster processor. |
| 08:07:27 | learner | What's a faster processor going to get me? |
| 08:07:57 | Llorean | Not much right now. |
| 08:08:24 | Llorean | But in the future it could mean that if you make use of DSP effects or other things, you can stack more of them without music skipping. |
| 08:08:32 | Llorean | Or games might perform better |
| 08:09:45 | Soap | or newer more processor hungry audio codecs can be used. |
| 08:10:08 | Llorean | There aren't many audio codecs left. ;) |
| 08:15:08 | learner | The 60 gb version of the x5 comes in a BL version, is that supported? |
| 08:15:39 | Llorean | "BL"? |
| 08:16:19 | learner | yup, I can't find what that is |
| 08:16:30 | learner | I know the L is longer battery |
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| 08:16:44 | Soap | Yea, the idea of a new audio codec is a weak argument. |
| 08:16:45 | Llorean | Yeah, but the x5L is only available in 30gb |
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| 08:21:07 | learner | So is the x5BL just the extended battery for the 60 gb? |
| 08:22:01 | Llorean | Where do you see that an x5BL exists? |
| 08:23:52 | Soap | I get a lot of non-english google hits for X5DL |
| 08:24:00 | Soap | nothing for x5BL |
| 08:24:28 | learner | http://www.amazon.com/iAudio-X5-60BL-Portable-Media-Player/dp/B000CDM6A2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4/104-5217266-1447147?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1172992990&sr=8-4 |
| 08:25:15 | Llorean | learner: Judging from how I've seen amazon list electronics in the past, I'm betting on BL there meaning "black" |
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| 08:26:23 | learner | okay, thanks |
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| 08:33:27 | decayedcell__ | mm rockbox doesn't seem to want to load when running from Loader2 + loader2.cfg |
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| 08:45:43 | JdGordon | bugger... anyone know how to edit the commit message? |
| 08:45:55 | JdGordon | I forgot to put the FS# in :'( |
| 08:47:18 | Llorean | I don't believe you can |
| 08:47:40 | JdGordon | oh well :p |
| 08:48:01 | JdGordon | the last commit was to fix 6713 if anyone reads the logs and cares :p |
| 08:48:52 | amiconn | You can't atm, afaik the svn server admin would need to enable changing of commit msgs |
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| 08:50:53 | JdGordon | ok, well its no big deal |
| 08:51:17 | JdGordon | dinner time, ill check back after soup incase the build goes pear coloured |
| 08:52:21 | decayedcell__ | rofl suprise suprise iPL website down again |
| 08:52:26 | amiconn | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/nightly/en/svn.reposadmin.maint.html#svn.reposadmin.maint.setlog |
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| 09:02:33 | amiconn | JdGordon: RED |
| 09:03:23 | JdGordon | bah |
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| 09:08:34 | amiconn | Ah, the targets with only non-lcd remotes... |
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| 09:21:46 | amiconn | JdGordon: Looks like you made it worse.... |
| 09:23:24 | amiconn | HAVE_* should be checked with #ifdef ... |
| 09:24:58 | amiconn | Or rather, must be |
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| 09:34:26 | JdGordon | just keeping you on your toes :D |
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| 09:46:07 | JdGordon | should fs 6718 be closed? there is almost no chance of it being accepted (i assume) |
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| 10:05:05 | JdGordon | is there a wiki page where us non-manual ppl can put feature explanations (and stuff needing attention in the manual) that needs translating into good english? |
| 10:05:25 | JdGordon | ... and to remind whoever of what needs going in? |
| 10:06:02 | scorche | just submit a plaintext patch to the tracker |
| 10:07:37 | JdGordon | I was hoping wiki :( its less effort and less likely to be lost or forgotten about |
| 10:12:54 | bluebrother | JdGordon, for rememering the topic itself see ManualTodo |
| 10:13:38 | JdGordon | I saw that... but that page is scary :p |
| 10:13:49 | bluebrother | hehe ... it's a bit outdated |
| 10:13:55 | JdGordon | anywya.. the big thing is wrong instructions for A-B on the ipods |
| 10:14:31 | bluebrother | wrong buttons? |
| 10:15:21 | JdGordon | it says select+left or right, ipods use the 1 button version, so select sets left, then right, then resets |
| 10:15:25 | JdGordon | same for the x5 |
| 10:15:42 | bluebrother | ok |
| 10:19:53 | JdGordon | does anyone know if we have circle/oval drawing functions in the core? |
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| 10:47:09 | JdGordon | cheers bluebrother :) |
| 10:47:53 | bluebrother | it's not the attention but the time thing ;-) |
| 10:48:58 | JdGordon | anyone know what the 00:00:00 line in the clock is supposed to be? |
| 10:49:52 | bluebrother | the alarm? |
| 10:50:13 | bluebrother | at least I assumed that when I last tried it on the sim |
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| 11:35:15 | amiconn | JdGordon: The '00:00:00 line' is the counter. Kind of an integrated stop watch |
| 11:35:19 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 11:59:23 | nls | make zip |
| 11:59:27 | nls | doh |
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| 12:01:15 | bluebrother | make: *** No rule to make target `zip'. Stop. |
| 12:01:18 | bluebrother | :D |
| 12:05:51 | markun | JdGordon: do you notice how you are almost the only one increasing the rockbox binary? ;) |
| 12:06:29 | JdGordon | yeah, but ill get over it :D |
| 12:07:14 | markun | Do you think you have some things left to decrease it a bit? |
| 12:09:44 | JdGordon | not really, the last of the menus conversion will be either small inscrease or no change.. |
| 12:10:01 | JdGordon | possibly some space in redoing the tree browser to work nicer with the root menu |
| 12:10:03 | JdGordon | we'll see |
| 12:10:14 | bluebrother | hmm. Are the size values saved somewhere (apart from the ones liked on the build table)? |
| 12:10:47 | JdGordon | they are saved in log files... dunno how far back the logs go tho |
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| 12:13:46 | bluebrother | I know these file ... that's what I meant with my side note |
| 12:14:12 | JdGordon | yeah, dunno.... B4gder is the person to ask :p |
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| 12:14:44 | decayedcell | linuxstb here? |
| 12:15:25 | bluebrother | hmm. Removing this additional RAM size question for archos configures and putting it into the advanced options would be nice |
| 12:15:29 | linuxstb_ | decayedcell: Yes. |
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| 12:17:29 | decayedcell | linuxstb_ it appears that your diskmode patch is incompatible with iPL Loader 2.5d6? |
| 12:19:21 | linuxstb_ | It works for you with the Rockbox bootloader? |
| 12:19:35 | decayedcell | *testing* |
| 12:19:48 | JdGordon | anyone have any idea how a file open/save as dialog should work? |
| 12:19:52 | decayedcell | on the 5G in rockbox, as soon as you plugin the USB cable the screen goes black and the iPod freezes |
| 12:21:52 | linuxstb_ | Are you running any other patches? |
| 12:22:23 | decayedcell | kocop11.3c, pluginbacklight, my own frequency patch |
| 12:22:35 | linuxstb_ | That's the problem then - the COP patch breaks the rolo feature. |
| 12:23:21 | decayedcell | okay so, if the cop patch is updated to work with Rolo, it will be committed to SVN and it'll work with your diskmode patch |
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| 12:24:30 | * | decayedcell boots into linux |
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| 12:27:00 | linuxstb | decayedcell__: Yes, I think Rolo is now the main thing stopping the COP patch being committed. |
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| 12:45:35 | bluebrother | ok, some more work for enabling greyscale in Rockboxed for h100: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/dump_0024.bmp |
| 12:45:37 | bluebrother | comments? |
| 12:46:18 | nls | bluebrother: looks good |
| 12:47:03 | barrywardell | looks nice. I'm not sure if I like the vertical lines on the progress bar though |
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| 12:50:47 | bluebrother | just tried to mimic the progress bar of the color targets ... but unfortunately it gets heavier because of the limited number of colors |
| 12:51:25 | bluebrother | maybe using smaller stripes would be better. |
| 12:52:03 | markun | bluebrother: yes, looks good to me |
| 12:52:12 | barrywardell | i thin a solid bar would be nicer, but maybe thinner stripes would work too |
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| 12:55:23 | barrywardell | actually, I'm not even too keen on those stripes in the current version |
| 12:57:25 | nls | barrywardell: i think it was meant to recreate the texture from "box" in the logo, but I agree it look kind of odd |
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| 12:58:25 | bluebrother | better with smaller stripes? http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/dump_0025.bmp |
| 12:59:03 | bluebrother | a plain black bar looks too dark imo |
| 12:59:55 | aliask | Ya, better with smaller stripes |
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| 13:00:06 | aliask | Also, the battery looks nicer |
| 13:00:19 | bluebrother | that's only a different "fill" of the battery ;-) |
| 13:00:30 | bluebrother | but I could make that more grey |
| 13:00:33 | aliask | Yeah, that's what I meant. Does it only do that on low battery? |
| 13:00:46 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 13:01:03 | bluebrother | I guess that's to imitate the red bar of the color version. |
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| 13:01:18 | bluebrother | but the battery also looks strange to me. Let's see how to deal with that ... |
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| 13:10:48 | JdGordon | :( anyone know of any feature requests which are acceptable that are more interesting to code than code optimization? |
| 13:11:32 | nls | JdGordon: view ports? metadata on buffer? :-P |
| 13:11:41 | aliask | Porting eSpeak? |
| 13:11:44 | bluebrother | modified battery icon: http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uhcn/rockbox/dump_0027.bmp and 28 |
| 13:12:00 | bluebrother | 27 is nearly full battery, 28 nearly empty |
| 13:12:27 | bluebrother | ... but now out for food for a couple of minutes |
| 13:12:28 | JdGordon | nls: need to get amiconn to wikify his viewports idead |
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| 13:13:14 | nls | JdGordon: right, communication is A Good THing (tm) |
| 13:13:28 | JdGordon | :) yeah |
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| 13:13:50 | JdGordon | spose its time for the weekly reminder for Slasheri to wikify the shecdular :p |
| 13:17:06 | nls | JdGordon: maybe get everyone to agree on a way to do the plugin sorting, ad get that done? |
| 13:18:09 | decayedcell__ | and another nudge to get those GUI optimisations commited :D |
| 13:18:41 | JdGordon | nls: bluebrother is working on that iirc |
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| 13:18:47 | * | JdGordon quickly fixing the quickscreen |
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| 13:19:17 | nls | oooh, make the quickscreen use userfont in a nice way, that's one I want :-) |
| 13:19:58 | JdGordon | about to commit that |
| 13:20:05 | JdGordon | very easy to do... not sure why it never was done |
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| 13:20:45 | nls | JdGordon: because it looked strange with large fonts on small displays |
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| 13:20:59 | JdGordon | it forces the ui font it there are not enough lines |
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| 13:21:27 | nls | how about when the lines are too long, scroll? |
| 13:21:56 | aliask | Who wants antialiased fonts? (esp on large displays) |
| 13:22:10 | JdGordon | everyone I would guess |
| 13:22:25 | nls | and if it forces sysfont it will not fix the problem with those strings not being localizable outside latin1 |
| 13:22:42 | JdGordon | nls: i would guess that if the font was large enough that the line didnt fit then there wouldnt be enough lines anyway |
| 13:22:54 | JdGordon | that was what i was worried about :p |
| 13:23:17 | nls | JdGordon: yeah, but translated strings can be longer... |
| 13:23:42 | nls | not that I guess they should be THAT long in the quickscreen |
| 13:23:55 | aliask | Well, it's an easy enough fix, you can test the dimensions of a string and revert to system font if it's too wide. |
| 13:24:27 | JdGordon | scrolling is ok, because every text section is on a seperate lnie |
| 13:24:29 | JdGordon | line |
| 13:24:42 | nls | hmm, should I be able to enter the quicksceen from the main menu? |
| 13:25:12 | * | JdGordon is thinking about adding a user > sysfont translation table for this |
| 13:25:27 | JdGordon | and im not sure.. i thought about that a min ago |
| 13:25:33 | nls | aliask: yes but that makes them non-localizable to other codepages |
| 13:26:09 | aliask | Are you talking about if the user font doesn't support unicode? |
| 13:26:35 | * | aliask doesn't really understand codepages |
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| 13:27:07 | * | nls would be happy with nice Icons for repeat and shuffle in the quickscreen, no text for those at all :-) |
| 13:27:25 | JdGordon | na, icons are bad |
| 13:28:09 | aliask | Icons without text are bad. |
| 13:28:26 | nls | aliask: I'm not very good with the whole codepage thing either but the sysfont doesn't support the whole unicode so if a string is translated to some language using glyphs not in the sysfont it would be difficult to display the string in sysfont. |
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| 13:29:14 | aliask | Well, it's in sysfont at the moment anyway, so it'd only be making things better. |
| 13:29:39 | nls | aliask: yes, it would be better but it is only a half-fix |
| 13:29:48 | JdGordon | im going to do this properly.. hopefully remove that LANG_SYSFONT_ problem everywhere |
| 13:30:00 | JdGordon | well... make it easy to fix the offending screens |
| 13:30:42 | nls | JdGordon: I think the recording screen will be "fun" to deal with :_) |
| 13:30:47 | nls | :-) |
| 13:30:54 | JdGordon | yeah, ill stay away from that |
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| 13:35:32 | * | JdGordon wonders why some of these SYSFONTS exist |
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| 13:36:52 | wpsidea | bluebrother, an idea for your wps, I would display %pp|%pe where you have mp3 displayed below the progress bar |
| 13:37:04 | nls | JdGordon: the ones for the pitch screen will be gone with the lang cleanup :-) |
| 13:37:30 | JdGordon | and the eq settings? |
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| 13:37:39 | wpsidea | bluebrother, more meaningful than type of file being played |
| 13:37:44 | JdGordon | although, wouldnt the pitch screen have the same problem as the quickscreen? |
| 13:37:56 | markun | wpsidea, bluebrother: I think we should also talk to the guy who made the WPS in the first place.. |
| 13:39:20 | markun | wpsidea: why do you use different nicks for your questions? |
| 13:39:51 | wpsidea | i like to use different nicks, is it a problem ? |
| 13:40:05 | bluebrother | currently I only want to add greyscales for targets that support them for now |
| 13:40:34 | bluebrother | wpsidea, that's confusing −− you'll never know exactly who and what you already talked |
| 13:40:59 | wpsidea | i rewad the logs and keep track of my conversations |
| 13:41:05 | wpsidea | rewad = read |
| 13:41:21 | nls | JdGordon: Idk, but the pitch screen is drawn using the userfont, so these string should be renamed to not confuse, and that change is in the lang cleanup patch |
| 13:41:38 | wpsidea | my nick always reflects the issue/question that i'm dealing with |
| 13:41:52 | bluebrother | sure, but instead of you for example me doesn't know you are the same person all the time |
| 13:41:54 | markun | wpsidea: luckily your ip stays the same :) |
| 13:42:25 | bluebrother | so that makes it quite hard to keep track for others (and people not remembering your ip ;-) |
| 13:42:54 | wpsidea | np, i'll settle on one in future, |
| 13:43:02 | JdGordon | nls: right, but doesnt it revert to the sysfont if there isnt enough lines? |
| 13:43:46 | bluebrother | would be at least nice :) |
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| 13:43:58 | nls | JdGordon: dunno, will try it, but there are only 3 lines of actual text on that screen |
| 13:44:32 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:44:32 | bluebrother | remember that the lcd remote might have even less |
| 13:46:09 | nls | JdGordon: everything still fits on the pitch screen with a 32pixel high font, so it would be better to try a target with lower resolution screen |
| 13:46:22 | wpsidea | bluebrother, this is what i have below my progress bar %al%pc%ac%pp|%pe%ar%pr |
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| 13:47:23 | bluebrother | wpsidea, I currently don't plan changing any of the displayed information. Just fixing that big black bar at the bottom as it looks quite annoying |
| 13:47:48 | wpsidea | ah ok, thought you were looking for ideas |
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| 13:48:37 | bluebrother | no, it's not my wps ... it's "just" in svn and it doesn't look good on non-color targets at all |
| 13:48:46 | bluebrother | so I wanted to improve that a bit. |
| 13:49:41 | wpsidea | uhuh |
| 13:49:58 | wpsidea | its very cramped |
| 13:50:42 | wpsidea | but... wps are very personal anyway, mine is very simple with few graphics |
| 13:50:56 | markun | wpsidea: you could suggest it to the creator, I think he's called JustJonny (or something like that) in the forums |
| 13:51:49 | wpsidea | i'll do so, and i'll take a screen shot of mine, for what its worth |
| 13:51:57 | bluebrother | maybe keeping the black bar would work if the icons itself use more greyscales |
| 13:52:09 | wpsidea | which forum please |
| 13:52:28 | nls | the rockbox fourms |
| 13:52:49 | wpsidea | heh, i dont go there often |
| 13:55:27 | wpsidea | ah thats a wps for the gigabeat right ? |
| 13:55:31 | JdGordon | fark! this isnt going to work :'( |
| 13:55:44 | markun | wpsidea: there should be a version for all players |
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| 14:03:53 | * | bluebrother remembers zezayer is missing a rwps |
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| 14:05:57 | * | JdGordon thinks it would be fairly trivial to add fully customizable keys to rockbox |
| 14:06:32 | nls | but supporting it would not be trivial :-) |
| 14:06:52 | JdGordon | why would we need to tho? |
| 14:07:20 | JdGordon | we would still have the standard keys hardocded |
| 14:07:28 | JdGordon | and they would be the ones in the manual |
| 14:08:21 | nls | "the manuals says to press this button, but it doesn't do what it should" |
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| 14:10:01 | JdGordon | A: are you using a non standard keymap file? |
| 14:10:15 | nls | "dunno, what's that" |
| 14:10:47 | nls | anyway, I don't see the point of customizable buttons but if you really want to add it... |
| 14:11:09 | JdGordon | would be fun.. but pointless :p i know it would never get in |
| 14:12:56 | JdGordon | anyone think 5278 would be acceptable? goto start screen after X sec of idle? |
| 14:13:13 | JdGordon | actually ignore that... too much work for it :p |
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| 14:22:54 | bluebrother | I think that should get rejected. Autoswitching screens is quite a pain. |
| 14:23:09 | bluebrother | especially when you think of blind people ... |
| 14:24:24 | timberwolf19 | hmmm, ok, I'm experiencing a bit of, uh, technical difficulty here |
| 14:25:35 | bluebrother | care to share details? |
| 14:25:44 | timberwolf19 | I *thought* I charged my ipod up, I plugged it into the pc. I did that last night- but I guess it wasn't charging. But, I booted it into disc mode just now, needing to restore it with itunes, and it started beeping on me..beepbeeep. Then, right when I clicked restore, it apparently disconnected itself from the pc. Little help, please |
| 14:26:38 | bluebrother | no idea ... maybe someone else does |
| 14:26:43 | timberwolf19 | ipod video, 30 gb, I just bought it yesterday so am guessing its a 5.5 g? |
| 14:27:12 | timberwolf19 | is it supposed to charge when its in disk mode? |
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| 14:32:01 | timberwolf19 | nobody has any idea? |
| 14:32:21 | timberwolf19 | oh, another thing- it beeps when I disconnect it from the pc.. |
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| 14:34:39 | ethernal | uhm. hi! i am stupid. i wiped my partition table and now ipodpatcher won't regognize it as an ipod any more. clever huh? any ideas? thank you |
| 14:35:21 | bluebrother | restore using the apple restoration tool |
| 14:35:43 | ethernal | i can't wine the latest itunes, and the old itunes won't regognize it as an ipod :/ |
| 14:35:46 | ethernal | (im under linux) |
| 14:36:03 | timberwolf19 | btw, where cdo I go in itunes to allow the ipod to be a removable disc? |
| 14:36:22 | timberwolf19 | preferances somewhere? |
| 14:36:23 | ethernal | timberwolf19: somewhere in the settings there is a thingy for "show files on ipod" or something to that effect |
| 14:36:28 | timberwolf19 | ah |
| 14:36:36 | timberwolf19 | ok, hold on, I'll look for taht |
| 14:36:39 | timberwolf19 | er that |
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| 14:36:59 | ethernal | timberwolf19: or boot it in disk mode.. (holding down play and center wheel at the same time) |
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| 14:39:15 | timberwolf19 | I looked in the preferences diologue and couldn't find anything... |
| 14:39:28 | ethernal | timberwolf19: there is an option to show files on the ipod, i am sure of it. |
| 14:39:40 | timberwolf19 | er |
| 14:39:52 | timberwolf19 | is it something like show files in windows explorer? |
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| 14:41:47 | ethernal | timberwolf19: suppose so, i dont have itunes available at the mom |
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| 14:42:23 | timberwolf19 | ok |
| 14:42:36 | timberwolf19 | I'll keep looking, while my ipod (hopefully) charges |
| 14:43:46 | ethernal | i give up, i won't fix this under linux... i'm off to try and restore it on a windows xp machine insteda. thanks for all help! |
| 14:43:49 | ethernal | *quit |
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| 14:50:29 | bluebrother | bbl |
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| 14:57:25 | pixelma | hmm... bluebrother just left - hopefully he reads the logs... I've fixed the battery level problem for the Archos-version (also removed the annoying additional spaces) of Rockboxed. And by looking at it I believe that code for displaying the battery level icons for all the other versions can be simplified greately. |
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| 15:39:28 | timberwolf19 | hi |
| 15:39:49 | timberwolf19 | can someone who has an ipod video w/ rockbox chat with me privately? |
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| 16:47:14 | Juice^ | off topic question, on motherboards that has 2x ddr and 2x ddr2 slots, does the ddr2 slots support use of ddr ram? i want to use 4xddr |
| 16:47:49 | perplexity | nope.. |
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| 16:48:19 | Juice^ | ok thx |
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| 16:50:03 | dionoea | hi barrywardell |
| 16:50:15 | barrywardell | hi |
| 16:50:24 | barrywardell | how is the reading going? |
| 16:50:27 | dionoea | i'm kind of lost with all the usb code :) |
| 16:50:44 | barrywardell | i know exactly how you feel!!! |
| 16:50:54 | barrywardell | is there anything in particular you want me to explain? |
| 16:51:22 | amiconn | barrywardell: your 23:37 commit yesterday uses C99 variable declaration... |
| 16:52:01 | barrywardell | amiconn: oops. hadn't even noticed that. I'll fix it up now |
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| 16:56:51 | Ranbee | hi, can someone tell me how to get out of that number game? i just looked it up it's called Sudoku. i don't like it! |
| 16:57:33 | Ranbee | omg i just did it. i was stuck in it for about 5 minutes lol |
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| 17:39:27 | barrywardell | dionoea: still there? |
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| 17:43:38 | tim66 | barrywardell,amiconn:any reason we can't use -ansi or -std=c89 (and -pedantic if it's not already there) to catch these C99 declarations? |
| 17:43:59 | amiconn | Because we do want a number of C99 features |
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| 17:44:12 | amiconn | ...e.g. designted initializers |
| 17:44:18 | amiconn | *designated |
| 17:45:04 | barrywardell | just curious...why do we allow certain C99 features and not others? |
| 17:45:28 | amiconn | We use those features which have a real advantage |
| 17:46:16 | amiconn | Mixing declarations with code doesn't, might be confusing and/or cause a mess |
| 17:46:56 | barrywardell | ok, thanks. i can definitely see how mixing declarations could be confusing |
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| 17:48:35 | inteliwasp | how can i recharge a critically drained 4G ipod? |
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| 17:53:39 | inteliwasp | how can i recharge a critically drained 4G ipod? |
| 17:54:04 | Kasperle | inteliwasp: i assume you've tried connecting it to a running PC? |
| 17:54:44 | inteliwasp | yes, but by the time the disk mode comes up, it resets abruptley |
| 17:54:57 | Kasperle | odd |
| 17:55:04 | DataGhost | have you waited a long time (weeks/months) after you got the 'low battery' message? |
| 17:55:19 | inteliwasp | well it was drianed to the point of cutoff |
| 17:55:25 | inteliwasp | no |
| 17:55:40 | Kasperle | i've found it sometimes helps to connect earphones to the ipod if it refuses to wake up |
| 17:55:43 | DataGhost | that's done by the electronics, to prevent the battery from discharging too low (because li-ion can't be recharged under a certain point) |
| 17:55:47 | DataGhost | so that's not it then |
| 17:56:08 | DataGhost | try attaching it to a powered usbhub (not attached to a computer), as I assume you don't have a wall charger? |
| 17:56:22 | inteliwasp | the other night i tried to charge it with my wall charger in the original firmware and the cable was bad |
| 17:56:26 | DataGhost | when it goes into diskmode, it'll spin the harddrive... maybe it can't charge fast enough to cope with that |
| 17:56:47 | inteliwasp | DataGhost: yes thats right |
| 17:57:15 | DataGhost | are you using windows? does it detect the iPod? |
| 17:57:22 | inteliwasp | do you think it can get a charge in diag mode? |
| 17:57:29 | DataGhost | oh. lol. yes |
| 17:57:34 | * | inteliwasp is useing linux |
| 17:57:35 | DataGhost | I forgot about that but it'll charge :) |
| 17:57:39 | DataGhost | in linux it could be done too |
| 17:57:44 | inteliwasp | i'll try that |
| 17:57:53 | DataGhost | try ejecting the iPod ASAP... was what I was going to suggest |
| 17:57:59 | DataGhost | but you could use diag mode for that, I guess |
| 17:59:54 | inteliwasp | it's too far gone for the diag mode... and it wants to reset into regular mode when i plug in power |
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| 18:00:07 | DataGhost | hm? what do you mean.. what does it do then? |
| 18:00:23 | inteliwasp | it abruptly shuts off |
| 18:00:52 | DataGhost | strange, because when I start my 4G in diagmode, the harddrive abruptly shuts off |
| 18:01:03 | DataGhost | so that should actually let you continue |
| 18:02:01 | inteliwasp | lithium ion batteries have a special circuit that prevents severe drain and i am at that point |
| 18:02:29 | DataGhost | yes I know, if it drains further than that it'll be unrecharable |
| 18:02:36 | DataGhost | but since it's not been a long time, you should be able to revive it :/ |
| 18:03:04 | inteliwasp | actualy, it's to prevent fireres :) |
| 18:03:16 | DataGhost | eh? |
| 18:03:33 | DataGhost | that's new to me |
| 18:04:01 | DataGhost | all that I know is that a li-ion battery should *NEVER* be completely discharged because it's not possible to recharge it after that |
| 18:04:05 | DataGhost | but fire? |
| 18:06:17 | web-taz | hey |
| 18:06:28 | inteliwasp | oh sorry i was thinking of punchureing it |
| 18:06:41 | web-taz | can someone help me priting an inskin for h300? |
| 18:06:51 | Ranbee | i can't unmount my ipod in linux :( i get this error - 'An application is preventing the volume 'IPOD' from being unmounted.'can i delete the .hal-mtab-lock to fix it? |
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| 18:08:04 | inteliwasp | Ranbee: type sync |
| 18:09:18 | inteliwasp | in a terminal i mean |
| 18:09:26 | Funkmon | I've got a question that's been gnawing at me |
| 18:09:29 | inteliwasp | then try to manualy unmount |
| 18:09:44 | Funkmon | Why exactly, can't Rockbox work for 5.5g 80 gigs? |
| 18:09:48 | Funkmon | iPods. |
| 18:10:45 | Stalwart | Funkmon: they have fucked up hdd controller |
| 18:11:19 | Funkmon | Oh. |
| 18:11:26 | Funkmon | Okay |
| 18:11:41 | Ranbee | hi, inteliwasp i get this at a root shell - umount: /media/IPOD: device is busy |
| 18:12:42 | Ranbee | i try eject too and that failed. i might just pull it out :| |
| 18:12:54 | inteliwasp | Ranbee: type lsof /media/ipod |
| 18:13:23 | inteliwasp | dont pull it out, it's a good way to damage it or corupt files |
| 18:14:21 | inteliwasp | Ranbee: what do you get from the lsof command? |
| 18:14:32 | Ranbee | i love isof, but it says this BTW it's called icepod - No such file or directory |
| 18:14:46 | Ranbee | lsof /media/icepod |
| 18:14:47 | Ranbee | lsof: status error on /media/icepod: No such file or directory |
| 18:15:03 | Ranbee | it's capitals ill try that |
| 18:15:10 | inteliwasp | are ou sure it is icepod? |
| 18:15:27 | Ranbee | lsof /media/ICEPOD |
| 18:15:27 | Ranbee | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 18:15:28 | Ranbee | nautilus 4374 iceni60 cwd DIR 8,34 4096 1 /media/ICEPOD |
| 18:15:43 | Ranbee | so it's nautilus |
| 18:16:09 | inteliwasp | any windows open or in the sidebar? |
| 18:17:59 | Ranbee | thanks for the help inteliwasp :) i killed nautlius lol and it unmounted now |
| 18:18:30 | inteliwasp | no problem now i just need to fix my ipod now :) |
| 18:18:41 | BigMac | anyone admin over at mistic river? |
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| 18:21:50 | lostlogic | can the gigabeat record at all? |
| 18:23:00 | BigMac | no |
| 18:23:41 | BigMac | Nico_P: Are you the authorof the album art patch |
| 18:23:41 | lostlogic | hmm, unfortunate. are there any 60gb+ targets that we support recording on? |
| 18:23:49 | Nico_P | BigMac: yes |
| 18:24:03 | BigMac | lostlogic: I think the 60 gb Ipod does |
| 18:24:35 | lostlogic | how to connect a mic on the ipod? |
| 18:24:42 | BigMac | Nico_P: Is it back in sync with cvs/does it use the bmp resize patch again which I believe was also out of sync |
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| 18:25:07 | Nico_P | currently it's in sync with svn but without bmp resize |
| 18:25:09 | BigMac | lostlogic:Go to the rockbox forums>recording>recording on ipod |
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| 18:25:35 | lostlogic | k |
| 18:25:38 | BigMac | Nico_P: Oh so all coverart have to be scaled to the size you want to use? |
| 18:25:52 | Nico_P | BigMac: yes, or smaller |
| 18:25:57 | Soap | lostlogic: mic to preamp to line-in on ipod dock. |
| 18:26:13 | Soap | lostlogic: or mic to headphone jack on ipod 4th generation. |
| 18:26:34 | BigMac | Nico_P: Ever going to use bmp resize again? |
| 18:27:12 | Nico_P | i'll try to have a look at it but i'd like to use a method that could be accepted in SVN |
| 18:27:47 | BigMac | Yeah that would be optimal, but it just lets you be a little bit lazier because it auto scales |
| 18:28:05 | lostlogic | Soap: ah, damn. I might hafta get an X5 or HX40 and upgrade the drive to have a player with proper recording. |
| 18:29:15 | BigMac | Nico_P: So what is currently keeping it out of the SVN? |
| 18:29:31 | Nico_P | BigMac: metadata on buffer :) |
| 18:29:42 | Nico_P | or the lack of |
| 18:29:55 | BigMac | Ah. |
| 18:30:14 | Soap | recently there has been talk of dropping the MoB requirement as MoB is nowhere in sight and AA can be retooled if/when MoB happens. |
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| 18:30:29 | BigMac | Nico_P: Well this is the only patch that I have wanted to use since the day I installed rockbox |
| 18:30:46 | markun | lostlogic: there is support for digital recording on the dock connector, but we have to build a custom dock first to use it. |
| 18:30:52 | Nico_P | Soap: i did't knwo that... when did it happen ? |
| 18:30:55 | Soap | Nico_P: I have a suspicion that the climate is becoming right for you to fight for the patch. |
| 18:31:07 | Nico_P | Soap: cool :) |
| 18:31:11 | Soap | Nico_P: there have been rumblings on IRC the last few weeks. |
| 18:31:43 | Nico_P | back when cusheet wasn't committed i felt there was a possibility |
| 18:32:03 | BigMac | Soap: Didn't dan_a say he would commit kocop to SVN like a wekk ago |
| 18:32:31 | Nico_P | but then i thought album art was too much without MoB |
| 18:33:00 | lostlogic | Has there been talk of a DevCon, because a DevCon would be a good time to work on MoB and/or AAoB |
| 18:33:05 | Soap | BigMac: dan_a has probably been busy. I stayed up too late last night to have a good memory, but I believe a stumbling block in adoption of current KoCOP code was discussed. |
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| 18:33:35 | lostlogic | markun: so no toshiba sanctioned hardware supports recording? |
| 18:33:50 | BigMac | Soap: Ok good because that would be saddening to see a patch like that never be included either |
| 18:34:04 | Soap | oh, it will get included. |
| 18:34:14 | roolku | Nico_P: is there a reason you support so many alternative syntaxes for the album art WPS tag? |
| 18:34:29 | Nico_P | roolku: what alternative syntaxes ? |
| 18:34:30 | roolku | Nico_P: I can only see this leading to confusion |
| 18:34:56 | Nico_P | roolku: i agree it's a bit complicated... most of it is due to the resizing |
| 18:35:06 | roolku | Nico_P: for example a -, r and R are possible values for right alingned |
| 18:35:10 | Soap | I was trying to teach myself the menuing code last night, as that is why the scroll_wheel_acceleration code is out of sync. It hasn't been touched since jdgordon's major menu overhaul. |
| 18:35:13 | roolku | aligned |
| 18:35:39 | Nico_P | roolku: all this part (the resizing and alignment) was done by Massa |
| 18:35:40 | markun | lostlogic: I don't know about the Gigabeat S and V |
| 18:36:02 | lostlogic | markun: I meant accessories for the F or X. |
| 18:36:25 | roolku | Nico_P: might be worth deciding a single syntax |
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| 18:36:33 | Nico_P | yes |
| 18:37:04 | roolku | Nico_P: when it gets committed I mean |
| 18:37:22 | Nico_P | i agree... it's a bit too complicated |
| 18:37:41 | BigMac | Soap: Is that your way of saying you are looking into picking up that patch? |
| 18:37:49 | Soap | no |
| 18:37:56 | BigMac | doh |
| 18:38:10 | Soap | Trying to teach myself how things work. |
| 18:38:33 | Soap | If I successfully sync it, bonus, if not still a good lesson. |
| 18:38:36 | roolku | bottom/top aligned is even worse with 5 possible values: +bBlL/-tTrR :) |
| 18:39:13 | BigMac | Soap: Well if you sync it give me a holler because I would love to use that patch again |
| 18:39:43 | BigMac | Right now I have 4 patches I want to apply but three aren't working |
| 18:39:46 | Soap | IF, and that is a big IF, I sync it I would post it to the tracker. Sign up to watch the thread. |
| 18:39:54 | Soap | What 3 aren't working? |
| 18:40:22 | BigMac | That being Scrolling Accel, KOCOP, and Stardict |
| 18:40:41 | Soap | KoCOP was synced 3 times last night after you went to bed. |
| 18:40:41 | BigMac | The only one working is Album art I think |
| 18:40:52 | BigMac | After 2 am? |
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| 18:41:22 | roolku | BigMac: I have stardict working...maybe I should upload it to the tracker |
| 18:41:43 | Soap | likely. I synced it locally, then fuxored up the patch I uploaded, then decayedcell fixed my mess and synced it twice more. |
| 18:41:51 | BigMac | That would be sweet roolku |
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| 18:42:10 | BigMac | Wow well I will try applying it now |
| 18:42:23 | inteliwasp | what are the curent hdd players that are compatable with rockbox? |
| 18:42:44 | BigMac | should I re download the svn, I didn't see any major updates for the ipod |
| 18:44:59 | Soap | inteliwasp: www.rockbox.org |
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| 18:45:26 | BigMac | roolku, holler when you upload |
| 18:45:28 | Soap | inteliwasp: they are listed on the front page. Only the iPod nano is a flash player of the current, fully working, targets. |
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| 18:45:41 | roolku | BigMac: okay done. let me know if there is a problem |
| 18:45:56 | BigMac | ok will do |
| 18:45:59 | roolku | BigMac: (only tested for gigabeat atm) |
| 18:46:13 | inteliwasp | so i cant get a new rockbox compatable player now right? |
| 18:46:13 | pearldiver | does anyone have a fix for this one by any chance? |
| 18:46:15 | pearldiver | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/2954 |
| 18:46:24 | BigMac | Ok well I will tell you if it works on the 5g |
| 18:46:51 | lostlogic | doesn't rockbox work on the 30gb iPod 5.5g? |
| 18:47:08 | markun | lostlogic: yes, it does |
| 18:47:15 | lostlogic | inteliwasp: get a 30gb ipod |
| 18:47:43 | BigMac | Nico_P: according to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3045 , your patch needs a resyncing |
| 18:47:45 | markun | or buy a non supported player and start a port ;) |
| 18:48:05 | Nico_P | BigMac: that's possible, i'll upload my local version |
| 18:48:06 | lostlogic | or you can find some new toshiba meg-f series... not in production, but still available some places |
| 18:48:07 | Soap | You can buy an iPod 30GB new, 60GB refurbushed, an iAudio X5 new, a Gigabeat (possibly) new. |
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| 18:48:12 | pearldiver | BigMac that one works |
| 18:48:28 | lostlogic | inteliwasp: in short stop being alarmist :-P |
| 18:48:31 | pearldiver | at keast it did a day ago |
| 18:48:34 | pearldiver | least* |
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| 18:48:46 | markun | inteliwasp: what kind of player were you looking for? |
| 18:48:59 | BigMac | pearldiver: then why is there a comment saying it is out of sync |
| 18:49:07 | pearldiver | i have no idea |
| 18:49:19 | pearldiver | i compiled with it a day ago |
| 18:49:40 | BigMac | alright I will try it anyway |
| 18:49:46 | inteliwasp | a hard driver player with atleast 20GB and hopefully not ipod... it that or buy a new battery |
| 18:50:20 | pearldiver | now the scroll margin patch needs an update |
| 18:50:21 | markun | inteliwasp: do you care for a nice screen, recording, fm radio? |
| 18:50:29 | BigMac | roolku: oh I have to apply both patches? |
| 18:51:16 | inteliwasp | nice screen would be nice not necciary the others are a bonus |
| 18:51:32 | markun | perhaps we should make a rockbox DAP buying guide comparing the most important features and average battery time |
| 18:51:46 | lostlogic | markun: that does sound like a very good idea |
| 18:52:18 | markun | lostlogic: now of course I gave you the idea I was volunteering for it :) |
| 18:52:29 | roolku | BigMac: no, dict is enough (the other is just an entry in the main menu) but hang on a second, I have messed up the path in the dict.patch |
| 18:52:58 | BigMac | ok just give me a hooha |
| 18:53:11 | lostlogic | markun: I'll make a stab at it on the wiki and then hopefully others will help. |
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| 18:53:32 | markun | lostlogic: ok, I'll take a look and try to add some useful stuff when you are done |
| 18:53:48 | bluebrother | hmm. Is there a reason why the trigger screen is completely different to the other menus? |
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| 19:04:29 | roolku | BigMac: okay, this one should work now :) |
| 19:04:37 | BigMac | ok |
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| 19:07:10 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 19:11:59 | BigMac | roolku: Does fuzz matter? |
| 19:14:05 | BigMac | Nico_P and pearldiver : Hunk #3 FAILED at 2476. on the patch |
| 19:14:20 | pearldiver | that's interesting |
| 19:14:56 | BigMac | everything else succeded with some fuzz |
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| 19:15:27 | Nico_P | BigMac: are you using an up-to-date version ? |
| 19:15:28 | roolku | BigMac: only in rare cases. |
| 19:15:38 | Soap | I assume (this is really a query) that fuzz means it matched by neighboring lines and not line #s? |
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| 19:15:54 | Nico_P | BigMac: of the rockbox source, that is |
| 19:16:01 | Nico_P | and do you have other patches ? |
| 19:16:17 | BigMac | Nico_P: Just dled a few minutes ago |
| 19:16:26 | pearldiver | im trying now |
| 19:16:28 | BigMac | Yah KOCOP and Stardict |
| 19:16:41 | BigMac | none use the files you used though |
| 19:16:48 | roolku | Soap: that is my understanding |
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| 19:17:00 | pearldiver | BigMac works here |
| 19:17:06 | pearldiver | applied with no errors |
| 19:17:21 | Soap | did you revert out earlier failed attempts BigMac ? |
| 19:17:22 | Nico_P | same here after having reverted |
| 19:17:37 | BigMac | ? |
| 19:17:45 | pearldiver | ah |
| 19:17:48 | pearldiver | actually |
| 19:17:49 | Soap | from the rockbox directory do a "svn revert -R ." |
| 19:17:50 | pearldiver | no |
| 19:17:52 | pearldiver | :P |
| 19:17:58 | pearldiver | Hunk #3 FAILED at 2476 |
| 19:18:01 | pearldiver | is here as well |
| 19:18:04 | Soap | or not |
| 19:18:04 | Nico_P | pearldiver: huh ? |
| 19:18:45 | BigMac | Soap: I tried doing an -R on the patch but it says failed on that line still |
| 19:19:11 | Soap | BigMac: which is the svn command for reverting back to "stock" svn, removing changes. -R means chase recursively through the directories, the . means start in current directory. |
| 19:19:12 | Nico_P | i don't understand, my tree is clean according to svn status |
| 19:19:49 | Nico_P | pearldiver, BigMac: in which file is hunk #3 ? |
| 19:20:05 | pearldiver | metadata.c |
| 19:20:15 | Soap | BigMac: I don't know how well patch can remove failed patches, that's why I always svn revert. Might very well be a waste on my part. |
| 19:20:16 | BigMac | yup |
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| 19:20:52 | BigMac | ok Soap , so cd into the directory of the failed patch, and do a revert? |
| 19:21:10 | Soap | no, the command I pasted should be done from the rockbox directory. |
| 19:21:25 | BigMac | ok so I will have to reapply all patches |
| 19:21:28 | BigMac | k |
| 19:21:30 | Soap | but pearldiver confirms your results, so that doesn't appear to be the problem. |
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| 19:21:57 | BigMac | Soap: Well if it doesn't work I would rather just remove it from the build |
| 19:22:50 | BigMac | so I can revert and it will put it all back to stock? |
| 19:23:09 | Nico_P | i don't get it ... : svn revert -R apps/ firmware/ then svn update then the patch applies fine |
| 19:23:10 | Soap | yes, just like a fresh svn checkout. |
| 19:23:26 | * | amiconn just read the first signs of life of the M5 bootloader on the LCD :D |
| 19:23:45 | pearldiver | Nico_P fails here |
| 19:23:45 | linuxstb_ | Hurray, another port :) |
| 19:23:46 | Soap | Nico_P: are you on SVN 12593 or newer? |
| 19:24:01 | Nico_P | Soap: 12596 |
| 19:24:23 | Soap | and BigMac / pearldiver are you on 12593 or newer? |
| 19:24:32 | pearldiver | the latest |
| 19:24:33 | BigMac | Soap: Oh that is cool, it only revert't take as longs what I patched so it doesn |
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| 19:24:58 | BigMac | I am on 12595 |
| 19:25:07 | Soap | BigMac: and reverting is kinder to Rockbox's bandwidth than wiping the whole rockbox directory and checking it out again ;) |
| 19:25:14 | Nico_P | pearldiver: could you revert apps and firmware to make sure ? |
| 19:25:43 | pearldiver | Nico_P just did |
| 19:25:50 | pearldiver | same, fails |
| 19:26:04 | dan_a | BigMac: Just reading your question from earlier, I had planned to commit KoCOP earlier this week, but RoLo doesn't work with it at the moment. Once someone works out how to fix that, I'll commit |
| 19:26:19 | Nico_P | :( |
| 19:26:59 | Nico_P | pearldiver: you are using the version of the patch i just posted on the tracker, aren't you ? |
| 19:27:09 | pearldiver | ha |
| 19:27:10 | pearldiver | no |
| 19:27:12 | pearldiver | hold on |
| 19:27:13 | * | dan_a applauds amiconn |
| 19:27:17 | BigMac | Nico_P: You just updated? |
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| 19:27:22 | Nico_P | yes |
| 19:27:27 | BigMac | I am using one from like february |
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| 19:27:31 | Soap | linuxstb: M5 = X5 minus FM and colour? |
| 19:27:32 | BigMac | that could be why |
| 19:27:39 | Nico_P | BigMac: that's why indeed |
| 19:27:48 | Nico_P | i assumed you saw my updated, sorry |
| 19:27:53 | amiconn | Soap: Almost. M5 = X5 minus FM, colour and USB OTG |
| 19:28:24 | Soap | ahh. Things woth sacraficing in my mind. I might need to look into that. |
| 19:28:26 | Nico_P | BigMac, pearldiver: with the updated patch you'll be fine |
| 19:28:39 | Nico_P | i have to go, bbs |
| 19:28:58 | pearldiver | thanks |
| 19:29:01 | pearldiver | it works |
| 19:29:06 | BigMac | yup |
| 19:29:08 | BigMac | bye |
| 19:29:17 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: How are you running code? Did the X5 bootloader (minus LCD driver) work? |
| 19:29:21 | barrywardell | dan_a: how does kocop break rolo? |
| 19:29:41 | amiconn | linuxstb: Yes, and I also already have a working M5 lcd driver :) |
| 19:29:58 | amiconn | (did that before even trying to run the bl) |
| 19:30:28 | Soap | BigMac: _that_ is the issue I heard last night. KoCOP and RoLo. |
| 19:30:54 | dan_a | barrywardell: I changed Rolo on PP targets so that the COP got rebooted at the same time as the CPU, with a couple of wait loops to make sure they are synced. It seems that the COP now refuses to play nicely |
| 19:31:06 | BigMac | What is RoLo, or should I go look it up |
| 19:31:43 | dan_a | BigMac: It is what means you can load a firmware from a file from inside Rockbox |
| 19:32:01 | BigMac | ah cool |
| 19:33:46 | barrywardell | dan_a: have you tried using the mailboxes at all? |
| 19:34:55 | BigMac | Well this is a really good feeling |
| 19:35:21 | BigMac | I have been trying to be able to compile since I started using rockbox, and now I am doing it |
| 19:35:29 | BigMac | I feel all tingly inside |
| 19:35:33 | dan_a | barrywardell: I've had a brief go, with mixed results. It doesn't seem like you can use them in the same way as an IDATA variable for passing data |
| 19:36:21 | dan_a | I even tried restarting the COP from inside an interrupt triggered by a mailbox write, and that didn't work |
| 19:37:02 | barrywardell | dan_a: that's what I was going to suggest |
| 19:37:29 | barrywardell | i found some mailbox stuff in the sansa of, but haven't got as far as figuring out what it does yet |
| 19:37:37 | dan_a | I'll have another try doing it that way, in case there is something I missed |
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| 19:38:41 | BigMac | roolku: Still around? |
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| 19:40:46 | barrywardell | dan_a, linuxstb: also, I noticed when I was getting rid of the inl/outl stuff that according to ipodlinux, the ide seems to need to be configured differently depending on cpu frequency |
| 19:41:08 | linuxstb_ | Yes, I noticed that in your commit. I've no idea what that's about... |
| 19:41:36 | * | dan_a wonders if that is why amiconn's asm optimised read/write failed on the 3G |
| 19:41:41 | barrywardell | i must remember to do some tests and see if it affects the crashes at all |
| 19:42:54 | linuxstb_ | The COP patch seems to fix the crashes for me. |
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| 19:43:48 | barrywardell | last time I tried, they didn't. maybe I should test again |
| 19:44:50 | barrywardell | also, the addresses for CPU_INT_STAT and CPU_HI_INT_STAT seem odd, but maybe it doesn't matter because of external memory aliasing? |
| 19:46:18 | barrywardell | one last thing I noticed was in system_init(), they don't seem to be the right addresses for disabling irqs |
| 19:46:20 | dan_a | barrywardell: It looks wrong to me, too, but the memory (even for mmapped I/O, I think) does seem to wrap around |
| 19:47:14 | dan_a | barrywardell: Do you know what the INT_STAT addresses are for? |
| 19:47:44 | lostlogic | Rockbox Battery life on the iAudio X5 is comparable to that on the OF, right? |
| 19:47:46 | roolku | BigMac: yes |
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| 19:48:45 | BigMac | Once I download this massive dictionary and extract it to my ipod, do I just select it like a viewer |
| 19:48:52 | BigMac | or is it a plugin I have to load |
| 19:48:52 | barrywardell | dan_a: I think external memory does wrap around, so adding an integer multiple of the memory size gives the same location in memory (although mmapping might affect how it's cached, etc) |
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| 19:49:40 | roolku | BigMac: you browse to the *.idx file and press select (or the equivalent on ipod) |
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| 19:49:48 | barrywardell | dan_a: i thought they are used for checking the status of interrupts, although I have found places in the sansa of where they are written to |
| 19:50:21 | dan_a | barrywardell: I've done tests which show that the caching does only work on the base address, not on the aliassed address |
| 19:50:48 | amiconn | Rockbox boots fine on M5; playback doesn't work yet (but doesn't hang either, it pretends to play but you don't hear something) |
| 19:50:55 | amiconn | Backlight doesn't work yet |
| 19:51:13 | dan_a | So INT_STAT is the interrupt status, and COP_INT_STAT is the interrupt status with the COP interrupt mask applied? |
| 19:51:41 | * | linuxstb_ looks on ebay and doesn't see any M5s... |
| 19:51:51 | barrywardell | dan_a: that's my understanding at least |
| 19:52:35 | amiconn | linuxstb: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Cowon-iAudio-M5L-20-GB-LONG-PLAY-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ270076287463QQihZ017QQcategoryZ73839QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem |
| 19:53:17 | x1jmp | BigMac: Do you have success using dict? |
| 19:53:25 | BigMac | oh yah and do you know if there is a torrent of this up yet? because if not I can put it up on my desktop 24/7 if you want to link to it in the tracker |
| 19:53:29 | nls | heh, "Color Sound" in grayscale :-) |
| 19:53:47 | BigMac | x1jmp: wouldn't know yet, got another hour or 2 left to dl the file:P |
| 19:54:03 | BigMac | x1jmp: it compiled fine with roolku's update though |
| 19:54:30 | lostlogic | markun: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuyersGuide thoughts? |
| 19:54:41 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: Did you say the M5 has no FM? |
| 19:54:47 | amiconn | yes |
| 19:55:11 | x1jmp | BigMac: I just saw his patch, maybe someone can explain the reference to memcpy in the plugin...? |
| 19:55:31 | linuxstb_ | amiconn: OK, this site says the opposite - http://www.goaudio.co.uk/cowon-iaudio-m5-20gb-specification.html |
| 19:55:45 | barrywardell | dan_a: so we just need to add DRAM_SIZE to a variable's address to make it not cached? |
| 19:56:11 | markun | lostlogic: looks pretty nice! Will you continue to work on it, or shall I try to extend it? |
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| 19:57:37 | Soap | linuxstb: http://www.cowonamerica.com/products/iaudio/m5/m5_m3.html |
| 19:58:27 | x1jmp | BigMac: In the meantime you can try a smaller dictionary, you can get them directly from the stardict website or use one from mine (http://timo-horstschaefer.de/files/Rockbox/stardict/dicts/) |
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| 20:00:04 | dan_a | barrywardell: We might need to make sure that nothing within that 16 byte aligned page is cached either |
| 20:00:37 | x1jmp | roolku: did you also compile for ARM when you got the undefined reference? |
| 20:00:41 | linuxstb_ | Soap: Thanks, I found that. |
| 20:02:32 | * | barrywardell has lots of tests to do! |
| 20:02:54 | BigMac | anyone use ubuntu here? |
| 20:04:22 | lostlogic | markun: I gotta do some paying weekend work now, so have at. |
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| 20:05:14 | nls | BigMac: yes |
| 20:05:57 | BigMac | nls: Anyway to install something so that archive manager can open 7 zip, or do I have to install 7 zip |
| 20:06:53 | nls | BigMac: dunno, never used 7zip |
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| 20:11:04 | BigMac | arrgggg |
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| 20:11:54 | linuxstb | BigMac: Just try "apt-get install p7zip" |
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| 20:12:11 | roolku | x1jmp: gcc sometimes uses memcpy or memset when initialising variables |
| 20:12:25 | nls | yeah, p7zip is available in synaptic too, I don't see the problem really... |
| 20:12:39 | BigMac | I already have installed it using "sudo apt-get instal p7zip-full" |
| 20:12:40 | roolku | x1jmp: I can't remember either arm or coldfire3 |
| 20:12:46 | roolku | -3 |
| 20:13:55 | markun | can anyone give an estimation for the 'average' runtime with a X5 and X5L ? (for the BuyersGuide wiki page) |
| 20:14:13 | markun | runtime using rockbox of course.. |
| 20:15:23 | linuxstb | Is there an IaudioRuntime wiki page? |
| 20:15:41 | linuxstb | No. |
| 20:17:27 | markun | lostlogic put 16 hours for the Gigabeat F, I know we can get a few hours more, but think this is a realistic average |
| 20:17:46 | robin0800 | is the ipod 64 mb patch commited? |
| 20:17:51 | linuxstb | No. |
| 20:18:15 | robin0800 | well it is brocken now |
| 20:18:55 | robin0800 | won't compile with latest build |
| 20:19:40 | robin0800 | have posted comment in tracker |
| 20:19:43 | markun | robin0800: can you fix it? |
| 20:20:02 | robin0800 | no not clever enough |
| 20:20:20 | linuxstb | markun: I don't think the "5G" video ipod should be listed as currently available. |
| 20:20:26 | BigMac | anything wrong with this syntax linuxstb: 7z x freedict_eng-deu.7z |
| 20:20:53 | linuxstb | BigMac: I think that should work. |
| 20:21:16 | robin0800 | linuxstb why? |
| 20:21:44 | linuxstb | robin0800: Why what? |
| 20:21:52 | amiconn | linuxstb: I plan to check this myself anyway |
| 20:22:25 | markun | linuxstb: I'm not sure what we should list here. We also recommend H1xx players to people sometimes.. |
| 20:22:27 | linuxstb | amiconn: I think that site was just wrong - none of the other sites (including Cowon's) say there is FM. |
| 20:22:29 | robin0800 | why should it be listed as not available? |
| 20:22:30 | BigMac | linuxstb: this is what I get http://rafb.net/p/PR587z78.html |
| 20:22:47 | linuxstb | robin0800: Because Apple only sell the 5.5gen versions now. |
| 20:23:20 | markun | linuxstb: the X5 doesn't have FM? Why did I think that.. |
| 20:23:21 | linuxstb | markun: I think that page should also list all the discontinued players. |
| 20:23:32 | markun | linuxstb: yes, I agree |
| 20:23:35 | linuxstb | markun: I'm talking about the M5. |
| 20:23:40 | markun | ah, sorry :) |
| 20:23:49 | linuxstb | amiconn's port of the day... |
| 20:23:57 | lostlogic | linuxstb: I was trying to list players that are readily available either new or through ebay and its ilk but not players who are difficult to find period. |
| 20:24:06 | x1jmp | BigMac: I already heard of this issue, it was posted on the stradict thread... but I don't know what it is as it works for me :) |
| 20:24:22 | robin0800 | this is in the buying guide and your not commenting on operation |
| 20:24:29 | BigMac | wait is it just that file x1jmp ? |
| 20:24:57 | robin0800 | are they not availble refurbished by apple? |
| 20:25:48 | markun | amiconn: is it better to have a loop do "if (x) y = true;" or "y |= x;"? |
| 20:25:50 | x1jmp | BigMac: not sure, maybe it's even a misconfiguration of my page, try to download it with wget |
| 20:26:08 | markun | ||= even |
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| 20:27:37 | BigMac | is there an option to build a sim that can be run on windows? |
| 20:27:46 | BigMac | **linux |
| 20:29:08 | * | dan_a curses himself for being an idiot |
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| 20:29:26 | unicornpower | hey guys |
| 20:29:30 | markun | hi unicornpower |
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| 20:29:39 | unicornpower | how come when i change the language in rockbox, it is all squares |
| 20:29:46 | unicornpower | |
| 20:30:04 | dan_a | RoLo with the kernel on cop patch works fine - I'd just commented it out for everything except the 3G (the one target it won't work for) |
| 20:30:08 | unicornpower | i tried changing the codepage, but that didn't matter. |
| 20:30:36 | markun | unicornpower: you need a font which supports the language |
| 20:30:39 | barrywardell | dan_a: lol. so does that mean kocop is good to go? |
| 20:30:49 | unicornpower | :( Where do i get one? |
| 20:31:10 | markun | unicornpower: did you download the font pack from the 'extra' download page? |
| 20:31:24 | unicornpower | oh i didn't even notice that. :D brb |
| 20:31:43 | amiconn | Subtle difference of M5 and X5: Play and Rec buttons are swapped electronically... (!) |
| 20:31:46 | dan_a | barrywardell: I think so - I'm just scared of committing it, now! |
| 20:31:54 | markun | unicornpower: this helps: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UnicodeFonts |
| 20:32:06 | lostlogic | dan_a: do it, we use a VCS for a reason ;) |
| 20:32:07 | amiconn | The mechanical keypad arrangement is exactly the same |
| 20:32:32 | bluebrother | oh, found a nice bug |
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| 20:33:32 | bluebrother | if you call the credits plugin using the "Version" entry in the menu and quit it before the logo disappears the title is drawn using sysfont until you press any key |
| 20:33:41 | barrywardell | dan_a: go for it! |
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| 20:37:12 | unicornpower | Thank you markun. :D |
| 20:37:15 | unicornpower | it works now |
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| 20:41:22 | bluebrother | hmm. Is there a reason loading a new language does stop playback? |
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| 20:45:19 | BigMac | x1jmp: that would be a no on the working thing and I hope that the menu patch is causing all the spinups because I keep hearing it spin up like every 5 seconds |
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| 20:47:56 | Lear | bluebrother: it loads a new voice file, and in order to do so, it needs to re-allocate buffer space. |
| 20:48:23 | Lear | Thought the code could probably be more clever, and only stop playback when necessary, and automatically restart it if needed. |
| 20:48:33 | BigMac | Soap: What was that command again to update svn? |
| 20:48:41 | Soap | svn up |
| 20:48:45 | Lear | svn update? :) |
| 20:48:48 | BigMac | whoops |
| 20:48:53 | BigMac | I meant revert |
| 20:48:55 | bluebrother | oh −− so it does use some kind of dynamic memory? Or does that use the playback buffer? |
| 20:49:01 | x1jmp | svnrevert |
| 20:49:05 | x1jmp | svn revert |
| 20:49:08 | bluebrother | I thought the language buffer was static |
| 20:49:23 | BigMac | No it was something like svn -r . |
| 20:49:41 | amiconn | Backlight works :) |
| 20:49:43 | bluebrother | svn -r <revision> gets the specified revision number |
| 20:49:50 | Lear | bluebrother: Playback buffer is used, yes. See buffer_alloc. Language buffer is static yes, voice file buffer, no. |
| 20:50:04 | BigMac | and x1jmp , do you get often spinups with your patch on your dap |
| 20:50:17 | Soap | svn revert -R . (if from the rockbox directory) |
| 20:50:17 | BigMac | I have a feeling that it is the menu thing though |
| 20:50:20 | bluebrother | ah, so it's because of the associated voice file? |
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| 20:51:03 | Lear | Yes. That voice file is always loaded, if present. |
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| 20:51:37 | * | Soap doesn't understand what "if [ -z "$memory" ]; then" is checking. Feel free to ignore me, seriously. |
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| 20:51:39 | bluebrother | that means if I remove the voice file I get more playback buffer space? |
| 20:51:51 | Lear | Yes. |
| 20:52:04 | bluebrother | oh. Good to know :) |
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| 20:52:45 | x1jmp | BigMac: Unfortunately I currentliy have no hdd which could spin up in my dap, so most testing I do is in the sim. I've only seen the plugin on an X5 for s hort time and didn't notice spinups |
| 20:53:11 | BigMac | ok then it must be the root menu patch |
| 20:54:15 | x1jmp | BigMac: the root menu does nothing more the current root menu does not |
| 20:54:29 | BigMac | huh? |
| 20:54:45 | x1jmp | BigMac: When exactly do the spinups occur? |
| 20:55:29 | BigMac | if I change a directory , when I move at all on the vkeyboard |
| 20:55:51 | x1jmp | BigMac: The root menu is an official part of rockbox now, the dict root menu patch only adds an entry |
| 20:56:05 | Soap | BigMac: do you have dircache turned on? |
| 20:56:19 | Soap | I'm willing to be you lost your settigns. |
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| 20:56:59 | DataGhost | lol |
| 20:57:09 | DataGhost | they're (ab)using you! as an excuse! |
| 20:57:12 | DataGhost | "im not a noob, as i succesfully downloaded rockbox." |
| 20:57:13 | DataGhost | :D |
| 20:57:32 | BigMac | Soap: Not unless it turned itself on |
| 20:57:48 | DataGhost | (using loader2, so it's really just a matter of copy-paste-autodetect) |
| 20:57:55 | Soap | turn on dircache - reboot - I bet your spinups will be gone. |
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| 21:03:36 | BigMac | Does it always slow down load time? |
| 21:05:14 | nls | BigMac: Yes, unless you have a romboxed h100 it will have to scan the disk on every boot, but it shouldn't take long. |
| 21:05:27 | nls | make install -j |
| 21:05:32 | nls | gah! |
| 21:06:00 | BigMac | Hmm well I am thinking of just removing stardict because it is still spinning up |
| 21:07:12 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 21:07:25 | * | dan_a goes for it... |
| 21:07:42 | roolku | Lear: thanks - should have thought of it myself |
| 21:10:28 | * | bluebrother just looks into menu.h ... *blargh* |
| 21:10:48 | x1jmp | BigMac: dict itself is just a plugin, it controls the spinup when it is run, but the settings are restored afterwards |
| 21:11:02 | roolku | BigMac: there are no extra spinups because of stardict |
| 21:11:19 | nls | any gigabeaters here that can come up with a good button combo for swithching to Morse mode in the vkeyboard? |
| 21:11:52 | BigMac | well there has to be because when using a clean build, and one with just that patch spinups increased by a lot |
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| 21:13:04 | nls | ah, llorean you might know a good buttoncombo for the gigabeat to switch to morse mode in the vkeyboard |
| 21:13:21 | roolku | BigMac: can you be more precise? when are there spinups when there weren't any previously? |
| 21:13:48 | Soap | robin0800: I _think_ I fixed FS #5472 964MB patch) |
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| 21:13:52 | BigMac | I really can't, they are quite sporadic |
| 21:14:12 | Llorean | nls: I don't know which keys aren't yet used in the VKeyboard, honestly. I think the gigabeat has enough keys that you could just give it a single key, rather than a combo, maybe + or - |
| 21:14:29 | BigMac | Onlything I can say is that when I move down one line in like file browser, It spins up |
| 21:14:40 | Soap | and directory cache is on? |
| 21:14:46 | BigMac | yup |
| 21:15:11 | Llorean | And is the dircache ACTIVE? |
| 21:15:20 | nls | Llorean: ah, yes forgot about those, but isn't markun going to do the global volume control thing for them, maybe I should let him deal with it when he does that... |
| 21:15:22 | Llorean | You can have the setting to "On" but it not be running for one reason or another |
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| 21:15:41 | roolku | nls: yes, I would prefer to use them for global volume as well |
| 21:15:53 | BigMac | It said something about it on startup Llorean |
| 21:15:56 | piercedb0i | Hey Room. |
| 21:16:02 | Llorean | BigMac: "Something" is very vague. |
| 21:16:26 | nls | roolku: so, can ypu come up with a good combo? would menu+select work? |
| 21:16:27 | * | roolku leaves user support to the experts... |
| 21:16:44 | Llorean | nls: Well, other than that, I don't know which keys do what in the vkeyboard. |
| 21:16:53 | * | dan_a breathes a sigh of relief |
| 21:17:20 | Llorean | BigMac: Check in the debug menu to make sure it says the directory cache is active |
| 21:17:30 | Llorean | Then, if it definitely is, see if those strange spinups happen |
| 21:17:47 | nls | Llorean: ok, I'll go with menu+select then for now. |
| 21:18:03 | roolku | nls: the key combos for the virt keyboard are not useful anyway...it shuts down when you move the cursor |
| 21:18:11 | BigMac | Llorean: Yes and yes |
| 21:18:30 | Llorean | BigMac: You had one happen in the last 30 seconds? |
| 21:18:32 | nls | roolku: the line cursor? |
| 21:18:38 | amiconn | bbl |
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| 21:18:42 | BigMac | Yup |
| 21:19:02 | roolku | nls: yes, left and right are power+left/right |
| 21:19:12 | nls | roolku: for how long can you hold down power before it shuts down? |
| 21:20:06 | roolku | nls: I seem to remember it is 3s ? |
| 21:20:58 | roolku | nls: not long enough to go to the beginning of a filename |
| 21:21:02 | Llorean | BigMac: And you're using the dict.patch from the patch tracker, and NO other changes to Rockbox? |
| 21:21:24 | BigMac | yup |
| 21:21:32 | Llorean | Then what you're describing is impossible. |
| 21:21:36 | Soap | I think a note needs to be made that everybody on the old ipod bootloader needs to upgrade their bootloader. |
| 21:21:44 | BigMac | It is happening |
| 21:21:53 | Soap | (with dan_a's commit) |
| 21:22:03 | Llorean | BigMac: dict.patch does not modify ANY files in the rockbox core. |
| 21:22:04 | nls | Soap: they don't HAVE to iirc |
| 21:22:18 | Llorean | BigMac: Any change to core behaviour is because of a setting you've changed, or some other thing you've done. |
| 21:22:31 | Soap | I thought the old bootloader didn't initalize the COP properly? |
| 21:22:45 | BigMac | hmm well that is a possiblility but why would I have not experienced it before |
| 21:22:50 | nls | Soap: yes, but I think me added some kind of detection for that |
| 21:22:58 | Llorean | Soap: the old bootloader doesn't, but then the new Rockbox just won't use the COP if it's not initialized. |
| 21:23:06 | nls | maybe dan_a can inform us? |
| 21:23:14 | dan_a | Llorean is correct |
| 21:23:18 | Soap | sorry |
| 21:23:29 | Llorean | BigMac: Track down how to reproduce exactly what's happening, by using default settings first, and maybe you'll figure it out. |
| 21:23:41 | Llorean | Soap: We still should tell people to upload. |
| 21:23:59 | Llorean | dan_a: Actually, you should've included a splash each boot saying "Your bootloader is out of date, please upgrade" :-P |
| 21:24:06 | BigMac | I think I updated the bootloader already, anyway to check? |
| 21:24:14 | dan_a | Soap: That's fine - that behaviour has only been in the patch about a week, but it was one of my personal prerequisites for committing |
| 21:24:24 | saratoga | just noticed the COP was commited |
| 21:24:27 | saratoga | congrats dan |
| 21:24:32 | saratoga | been a long 6 months :) |
| 21:24:48 | dan_a | BigMac: Update your Rockbox to the latest SVN, see if there are threads on both cores and if audio plays |
| 21:24:49 | Llorean | BigMac: Generally you should try to keep track of these things. Is the background of your bootloader black? |
| 21:25:18 | dan_a | saratoga: Thanks - I'll get it working on the 3G ASAP since that was why I started it in the first place! |
| 21:25:57 | BigMac | yup Llorean |
| 21:26:04 | saratoga | ha |
| 21:26:15 | saratoga | i guess it'll probably be most useful on the 3g given how slow it is |
| 21:27:02 | BigMac | Wait dan_a , you just commited it? |
| 21:27:13 | piercedb0i | I had a question.. Aside from taking my nano apart( Its a 2g) can I help move development along in any way? |
| 21:27:27 | dan_a | BigMac: Yes, just 2 minutes ago |
| 21:27:52 | BigMac | Doh, but is it the same as patch kocop11.3c.patch? |
| 21:28:32 | dan_a | BigMac: Possibly not - it is the latest patch that I did plus the changes needed to apply it to the latest SVN |
| 21:28:42 | BigMac | mannn |
| 21:28:45 | BigMac | alright |
| 21:28:53 | BigMac | so I better svn up |
| 21:29:22 | roolku | x1jmp: I think I have a bug for you - selected Wiki in the english wikipedia, selected wiki-source from the list and my characters were overwritten with random data...let's see if i can reproduce it |
| 21:32:56 | BigMac | Has menu quick exit been commited to svn yet or who made the patch |
| 21:33:19 | nls | BigMac: It is a part of the new menu stuff |
| 21:33:25 | bluebrother | I believe the new Rockbox menu does that |
| 21:33:29 | dan_a | piercedb0i: I think the only thing which will help at the moment is decrypting the original firmware, or at least finding out how to run our own code. |
| 21:33:57 | BigMac | AH cool thanks |
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| 21:34:16 | BigMac | What about play taking you to the wps from aywhere |
| 21:34:29 | nls | that too |
| 21:34:55 | Llorean | BigMac: Out of curiosity, is it too hard to just look at the changelog? |
| 21:35:08 | nls | ok, any gigabeat owner wants to test Morse mode or should I just commit it without getting it tested on target? ;-) |
| 21:35:21 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Nice commit :) |
| 21:35:40 | BigMac | Llorean: No I guess not |
| 21:35:42 | linuxstb_ | We have problems with 4g greyscale and mini users though... |
| 21:35:54 | dan_a | linuxstb_: Thanks! I've documented my kernel changes too! |
| 21:36:40 | roolku | x1jmp: nope can't reproduce it... |
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| 21:37:15 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: What happens if someone has an old bootloader? Does Rockbox just use the main CPU? |
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| 21:38:25 | bluebrother | can gui_synclist get updated frequently with changed entry values? |
| 21:38:26 | dan_a | I think my short term solution for the 4G greyscale/mini users would be to provide a prebuilt bootloader using GCC4.1.1, and a big fat comment in the sources saying that this is still an unsolved problem |
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| 21:39:03 | dan_a | Old bootloaders will use the main CPU for everything, but I've not added a splash screen or anything like that to warn people that they ought to upgrade |
| 21:39:07 | Soap | too bad dan_a didn't get a "cool" revision # like 12666 |
| 21:39:28 | dan_a | I was going for 12600, but just missed |
| 21:40:38 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: What changes do you need to make to bootloader/ipod.c ? Disable checking for apple_os.ipod? |
| 21:41:11 | x1jmp | roolku: btw what happens when you select 'WikiSource'? |
| 21:41:53 | Soap | and 12601 was prime |
| 21:42:15 | nls | dan_a: I think the plugin and codec api versions should be bumped. |
| 21:43:10 | dan_a | linuxstb_: No, it's just the check for the 'portalplayer' string. That means that with my bootloader anyone who has deleted their OF from the firmware partition and doesn't have an apple_os.ipod, if they try to boot into the Apple OS will get a reboot loop instead of an error message - I think that's an acceptable risk |
| 21:43:30 | dan_a | nls: I thought I'd done it... but maybe they've been bumped in SVN since I did that |
| 21:44:09 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Did you try moving the memcmp to earlier in the code? |
| 21:44:10 | nls | ah, yes I think jhMikeSdid it yesterday, so it's probably not too important |
| 21:45:28 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Or even testing for an in-RAM retailos first, and then checking for apple_os.ipod second? |
| 21:46:24 | dan_a | linuxstb_: I did. It doesn't seem to be the memcmp itsself that causes the problem, but Llorean said that we used to have problems if we were using "if"s to decide what to boot from - I think it could be related to that again |
| 21:46:40 | dan_a | I've not tried the in-RAM test first. |
| 21:47:17 | dan_a | It doesn't boot apple_os.ipod with a stock bootloader, even though the memcmp shouldn't be run at all |
| 21:48:11 | roolku | x1jmp: the first time all the character bitmaps were overwritten with random data and became unreadable, the second time I got the article as expected |
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| 21:49:51 | dan_a | Hmmm... if I'm bumping the API versions, do I need to bump the min API versions for all targets or just for dual core ones? |
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| 21:50:10 | robin0800 | soap just got a make all error 2 what ever that is with your patch |
| 21:50:25 | Soap | robin0800: one sec |
| 21:50:52 | nls | dan_a: I think we stick with one version number for all |
| 21:51:35 | Soap | robin0800: where did it spit out the error? |
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| 21:52:08 | Soap | I only tested doing "make bin" so I assume the change I made messed up plugins or codecs? |
| 21:52:45 | robin0800 | $ make |
| 21:52:45 | robin0800 | make[1]: `rdf2binary' is up to date. |
| 21:52:45 | robin0800 | make[1]: `convbdf' is up to date. |
| 21:52:45 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK robin0800 |
| 21:52:45 | robin0800 | make[1]: `scramble' is up to date. |
| 21:52:45 | robin0800 | make[1]: `ipod_fw' is up to date. |
| 21:52:46 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 21:52:46 | robin0800 | make[1]: `bmp2rb' is up to date. |
| 21:52:48 | robin0800 | make[1]: `codepages' is up to date. |
| 21:52:50 | robin0800 | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 21:52:55 | Llorean | Please don't spam the channel with pastes. |
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| 21:53:20 | robin0800 | sorrey |
| 21:54:16 | Soap | I get past that part when doing a normal "make" |
| 21:54:57 | robin0800 | I did enter 60gb hard drive |
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| 21:55:36 | bluebrother | robin0800, please use a pastebin |
| 21:55:57 | Soap | Rob222241: yes, I did here too. |
| 21:56:23 | robin0800 | don't know what that is |
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| 21:56:34 | x1jmp | roolku: The plugin only uses lcd_puts to draw to the display, the random data can hardly come from the plugin. |
| 21:57:23 | x1jmp | roolku: But you just made me finding another bug, which is fixed now :) |
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| 21:58:37 | roolku | x1jmp: it looked more like a buffer overflow overwriting the bitmap data for the fonts - could have been coincidence. Still scary |
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| 22:00:56 | * | dan_a pops out for 20 minutes - but is watching for reports of problems caused by r12601 |
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| 22:01:48 | Soap | I'll admit I don't understand the full implications of the change I made. I changed the line in the ipod video definition to "memory=2" so that the changed configure. file would trigger the question, when you answer the question it should correctly set memory regardless, so I'm not sure what problems it could cause. |
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| 22:02:51 | Soap | I don't know why it is working for me and not you. I reverted, updated, then applied the patch, and did my test compiles. |
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| 22:04:52 | nodrog | hey my rockbox installation seems to have just messed up, when i turn it on i get a 'no partition found' message, can anyone help? |
| 22:05:36 | Soap | but robin0800 I am willing to believe I messed up again. |
| 22:05:41 | Llorean | nodrog: And Rockbox worked before? |
| 22:05:52 | Llorean | robin0800: Were you building in a new build folder? |
| 22:06:10 | nodrog | yeah it was working fine, i just connected it to my pc to copy some files across and now its screwed up |
| 22:06:28 | Llorean | nodrog: Have you tried scandisk, or some other means of checking the filesystem? |
| 22:06:59 | nodrog | not yet, i wasnt sure if i should reinstall it |
| 22:08:15 | roolku | Soap: what patch are you talking about? |
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| 22:11:20 | Soap | 5472 - 64MB selection for ipod video. |
| 22:11:36 | Soap | the recent changes to configure. broke it |
| 22:12:29 | nodrog | so should i run scandisk on this then? |
| 22:12:39 | nodrog | will windows scandisk work with whaatever file system it is? |
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| 22:13:00 | Soap | my full make is up to minesweeper.c with no errors. |
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| 22:13:47 | BigMac | I thought switching on hold during boot up clears your settings |
| 22:14:07 | Llorean | BigMac: Depends on when you switch on hold |
| 22:14:11 | Soap | it should, if you do it as soon as you see "loading rockbox" |
| 22:14:14 | linuxstb_ | It does. But it also tells the bootloader to start the apple firmware. |
| 22:14:21 | Soap | not before, as that will boot apple OS. |
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| 22:15:04 | webguest53 | what does ipodpatcher do with an already rockboxed ipod? |
| 22:15:05 | BigMac | ah ok |
| 22:15:05 | linuxstb_ | You can turn it on as soon as you see the bootloader messages - the bootloader checks the hold switch status once, before it starts writing text on the screen. |
| 22:15:54 | roolku | Soap: I'll have a look (since I broke it). Would it be okay to add it as an option in the advanced menu (like for the 8Mb Archos builds)? |
| 22:16:25 | Soap | roolku: you're asking the wrong person. |
| 22:16:34 | linuxstb_ | webguest53: Whatever you ask it to do. |
| 22:16:58 | linuxstb_ | If you tell it to install a bootloader it will, replacing any existing bootloader. |
| 22:17:27 | Soap | I had it on my "watch list" because I own a 60GB iPod video. My runtime tests have shown it offers little to no reward and possible risk, so I stopped using it. I mearly tried to fix the patch as a learning exercise. |
| 22:17:30 | webguest53 | ok, so when it moves images it doesnt move the old bootloader it overwrites it |
| 22:18:03 | linuxstb_ | If the new bootloader is larger than the old one, it will still need to move images. |
| 22:18:36 | webguest53 | ok thanks, I just wanted to know if i had two rockbox bootloaders installed |
| 22:19:35 | Soap | roolku: I would be interested in what the implications of my hackish fix are, though. |
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| 22:19:58 | linuxstb_ | roolku: I don't think it belongs in the advanced menu, as it's not a hardware mod - 64MB of RAM is standard on the 60GB and 80GB video ipods. |
| 22:20:41 | nodrog | i cant connect the ipod at all to the computer now |
| 22:21:05 | nodrog | whenever i reboot or plug it in it just goes to the no partition found screen |
| 22:21:09 | roolku | linuxstb: you are right - so it should be done as an additional target? |
| 22:21:19 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: Is it in disk mode? |
| 22:21:50 | roolku | linuxstb: otherwise we get get an additional prompt for memory size (which I thought was undesirable) |
| 22:22:03 | nodrog | it says 'press menu select for reboot, or select+play for diskmode' |
| 22:22:05 | linuxstb_ | roolku: Ideally it should be detected at runtime, so we only have to offer one build for both versions of the video. But that's not trivial. |
| 22:22:08 | nodrog | but nothing happens when i do select-play |
| 22:22:09 | midkay | i haven't been keeping up with the usual complaints recently.. but has anybody mentioned that Rockbox sounds totally different lately? (on my iPod 5G at least.) |
| 22:22:38 | Soap | you mean the French accent all my albums have now midkay? |
| 22:22:50 | midkay | haha. not that. :D |
| 22:22:52 | Llorean | midkay: Have you tried resetting your settings, there was some strangeness with the EQ getting bad defaults. |
| 22:23:09 | midkay | Llorean: hmm.. i'll try that. i'm using the hardware EQ though.. and I have been for months. |
| 22:23:26 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: http://www.google.com/search?q=ipod+disk+mode |
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| 22:24:50 | roolku | linuxstb: yes - I just thought I would fix the patch since I changed the configure - I don't have an ipod |
| 22:24:58 | nodrog | ok its in diskmode linuxstb |
| 22:25:10 | nodrog | however its just connected as a 'removable disk' and i cant actually access it |
| 22:25:24 | nodrog | it says its not formatted |
| 22:25:28 | midkay | Llorean: hmm.. still doesn't seem quite the same. |
| 22:25:59 | Llorean | midkay: Anything happen to your ears recently? ;) |
| 22:26:24 | midkay | Llorean: haha. hope not! :) i'll try an older build to be sure. seems like it might have come around the time of "software tone controls". |
| 22:26:33 | midkay | not that they should be related, i think.. |
| 22:26:35 | Llorean | Which shouldn't be enabled for 5G, I thought. |
| 22:26:40 | linuxstb_ | roolku: Yes, they probably should be separate builds, with separate names - e.g. ipodvideo32 and ipodvideo64 |
| 22:26:50 | midkay | right.. which is why i'm a little confused. |
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| 22:30:41 | midkay | Llorean: it's a pretty subtle difference.. but i think I can hear it between today's and feb 2nd's build. let me compare once more.. |
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| 22:32:29 | DataGhost | is there anyone in here running ipodlinux on a 5G+? (the ipodlinux channel isn't that alive right now :P) |
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| 22:35:13 | nodrog | linuxstb - is reinstalling rockbox likely to fix the file system? |
| 22:35:17 | nodrog | also will i lose the stuff i have on it? |
| 22:37:07 | midkay | Llorean: i'm pretty positive that the latest build has a different sound... wider/more spread out if you will. there have been lots of sound-related changes over the past four weeks so I have no idea if/which one may have changed it. |
| 22:37:45 | Llorean | midkay: I haven't noticed it, but it may be iPod or even 5G specific maybe. |
| 22:38:26 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: No, Rockbox installation won't fix your filesystem. |
| 22:38:42 | midkay | Llorean: hmm.. not seeing any complaints about it anywhere. but these are songs i've heard hundreds of times.. i can tell the slightest difference. :) maybe i can find someone else to see... or maybe just live with it. :) |
| 22:38:49 | Soap | midkay: wasn't there a change to how crossfeed works (if you have that on) |
| 22:38:55 | nodrog | hm, how do i fix the file system then? :/ |
| 22:39:09 | Llorean | nodrog: Did you ever do that scandisk I recommended? |
| 22:39:11 | midkay | Soap: i'm not using it.. |
| 22:39:35 | nodrog | i'll do it now |
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| 22:40:39 | nodrog | The type of the file system is RAW. |
| 22:40:40 | nodrog | CHKDSK is not available for RAW drives. |
| 22:40:42 | nodrog | thats what i get |
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| 22:41:19 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: Exactly what did you do before it stopped working? Sounds like your partition table is corrupted. |
| 22:41:39 | nodrog | i was just copying files from the ipod to my computer, then it stopped working |
| 22:42:03 | Llorean | nodrog: Did you Eject before unplugging? |
| 22:42:06 | BigMac | Which DAP is the one that has you can add a bigger hdd and battery to |
| 22:42:12 | Llorean | BigMac: Most of them. |
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| 22:42:46 | BigMac | Really? So on an X5 I could? |
| 22:43:33 | Llorean | I believe that replacing the battery isn't really possible on the X5L at least, I'm not sure on the regular one. |
| 22:43:46 | Llorean | The HD is probably replaceable though. |
| 22:43:51 | Llorean | On either model. |
| 22:44:06 | nodrog | can i just somehow format the ipod? |
| 22:44:38 | midkay | hmm.. anybody know why this hasn't been committed? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5591 |
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| 22:45:02 | Llorean | midkay: Waaaaaaaaaaaaay out of sync last I heard? |
| 22:45:19 | Llorean | Like, out of sync to the extent where it's almost better to just rewrite it. |
| 22:45:22 | midkay | shouldn't be too hard to update, i think.. pretty simple change, at least that's what I assumed. |
| 22:45:23 | Llorean | Except he vanished. |
| 22:45:35 | midkay | haha. typical. |
| 22:45:39 | Llorean | I'd heard that some change had made it really hard to resync, but I could be wrong. |
| 22:45:40 | midkay | very short patch file.. |
| 22:45:46 | Llorean | I never actually looked myself. |
| 22:46:02 | linuxstb_ | I think Slasheri has been looking at doing similar optimisations. |
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| 22:46:51 | midkay | i remember it giving a pretty huge scrolling improvement.. |
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| 22:47:51 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: Yes, you could try reformatting it - just make sure you select FAT32. Or see if itunes can restore it. |
| 22:48:28 | nodrog | i really dont want to lose the data on it :/ |
| 22:48:31 | nodrog | ok i'll donwload itunse |
| 22:48:40 | Soap | midkay: did that one alone give the large improvement or 5594 - the one he did with scroll wheel acceleration? |
| 22:48:57 | Llorean | nodrog: Reformatting or Restoring will lose all data on it. |
| 22:48:58 | linuxstb_ | nodrog: Can you still access the data? |
| 22:49:36 | midkay | Soap: that one alone.. it's not hard to see why. only redrawing two lines versus 12 or 16 or more.. browsing was much snappier. |
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| 22:50:42 | nodrog | <linuxstb_> nodrog: Can you still access the data? <−− no |
| 22:50:47 | nodrog | i cant access the drive at all |
| 22:51:28 | linuxstb_ | But it's in disk mode now? |
| 22:51:28 | nodrog | <Llorean> nodrog: Reformatting or Restoring will lose all data on it. <- is there any chance itunes can fix it without wiping it all? |
| 22:51:33 | nodrog | yeah its in disk mode |
| 22:51:53 | Llorean | nodrog: No, there's no change of iTunes being able to fix it without wiping. |
| 22:51:55 | Llorean | nodrog: Did you Eject before unplugging? |
| 22:51:58 | linuxstb_ | No, itunes always does a destructive restore. |
| 22:52:06 | nodrog | Llorean - no |
| 22:52:28 | nodrog | it messed up before i disconnected though |
| 22:52:43 | nodrog | as in it wasnt able to access it, then i disconnceted, and saw it wouldnt load |
| 22:53:19 | Soap | midkay: looking at them I see where I was wrong. I was thinking 5594 included 5591, but it only includes 5526 - his scroll wheel acceleration API |
| 22:53:52 | nodrog | hm, so if itunes wont help should i just format it manually? |
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| 22:54:19 | midkay | Soap: ah. i didn't even look at 5594 or anything else, because i know that 5591 is the one that sped up scrolling for me. :) |
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| 22:58:58 | Llorean | jhMikeS: You present? |
| 22:59:20 | pixelma | Does somebody know in what currency the prices that are listed in the "BuyersGuide" wiki page are supposed to be? I guess $ but I'm not sure |
| 22:59:31 | nodrog | shall i format this ipod? :/ |
| 22:59:53 | jhMikeS | Llorean: si |
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| 23:00:04 | Llorean | jhMikeS: Voiced recording seems to be broken on the H120. |
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| 23:00:33 | Llorean | jhMikeS: There's at least two people in the mailing list reporting consistent hard (I think) freezes. |
| 23:00:49 | jhMikeS | Llorean: voiced? you mean mic in? |
| 23:01:21 | Llorean | Voiced as in "while using a voice file" |
| 23:01:29 | Llorean | Though in this case, the mic is the input too. |
| 23:01:42 | Llorean | For at least one of the two, the other didn't give much information in regards to what he's doing. |
| 23:01:59 | jhMikeS | always voice :\ that crap never stops |
| 23:02:36 | jhMikeS | My mailing list stuff must be messed up still |
| 23:02:42 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Rolo isn't working at all on my Color with latest SVN |
| 23:02:49 | midkay | pixelma: looks like USD.. although I don't personally think that page is too useful at the moment. |
| 23:03:31 | midkay | pixelma: it lists some specs.. but that's pointless because if you want to know this stuff you should check the much more comprehensive DeviceChart. a page on the functionality/usability status on each target might be handy though (like the Subjective discussion section). |
| 23:03:37 | dan_a | linuxstb_: Let me just check I didn't commit the idiotically broken version |
| 23:03:47 | pixelma | thanks - and I agree. I just thought that it shouldn't give false information |
| 23:04:01 | jhMikeS | Llorean: I've had problems with hard freezing when the backlight fades occassionally. |
| 23:04:20 | midkay | pixelma: good idea. :) |
| 23:05:59 | dan_a | linuxstb_: Hmmmm, the code looks right. Does RoLo hang at "Executing...". and do you have a main and a codec thread on the COP? |
| 23:06:02 | Llorean | jhMikeS: I'll try to find out if it happens at backlight fade. |
| 23:06:21 | Soap | roolku: thank you for the proper fix. What was the verdict on my hack? Or did you even look? |
| 23:06:22 | pixelma | midkay: :) I'll add the currency and a link to the device chart - and then probably forget about it ;) |
| 23:06:26 | jhMikeS | Llorean: please guide me to the proper thread. I see I'm gonna have to fix up my mailing list stuff. |
| 23:06:36 | midkay | pixelma: haha. sounds like a plan! :) |
| 23:06:45 | Llorean | jhMikeS: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-03/0162.shtml |
| 23:06:46 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Yes and Yes |
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| 23:07:19 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Does it work for you? |
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| 23:08:20 | dan_a | linuxstb_: It did, but I made a couple of tweaks to make the 3G OK before committing. They shouldn't have broken it, but I'll just double check |
| 23:08:57 | linuxstb_ | I also had some patches which _shouldn't_ have affected it. I'm just trying a clean build now. |
| 23:09:29 | jhMikeS | If it has anything to do with menu updates I may have a clue...will investigate. |
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| 23:09:54 | roolku | Soap: You added your code to a section that I had marked for deletion. :) Seemed to be okay otherwise from a cursory glance |
| 23:10:21 | Llorean | linuxstb_: How do I get a RoLo-able image of the disk mode, for example? |
| 23:10:28 | dan_a | linuxstb_: I also compiled using the wrong version of GCC (4.1.1 instead of 4.0.3) so I'll check that too |
| 23:11:06 | linuxstb | Llorean: I wrote a program to extract them - let me upload it to the IpodFlash wiki page.... |
| 23:11:29 | Llorean | Thanks |
| 23:11:30 | amiconn | Yeehah! Time for a "ladies & gentlemen" email :D |
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| 23:11:45 | pixelma | \o/ |
| 23:11:47 | nls | :-D |
| 23:12:02 | amiconn | Teh M5L is playing music |
| 23:12:05 | nls | second fastest rockbox oprt ever? |
| 23:12:09 | roolku | nls: there is a slight problem with the way you have enabled morse-input: The auto-repeat is broken in a funny way :) |
| 23:12:28 | amiconn | nls: I've beaten my own record by 1 hour :) |
| 23:12:39 | nls | amiconn: nice! |
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| 23:12:51 | roolku | amiconn: congrats :) |
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| 23:12:58 | nls | roolku: That's why I wanted someone to test it :-P |
| 23:13:00 | Llorean | dan_a: I can confirm, it hanged on executing Rockbox.ipod |
| 23:13:03 | nls | but what happends |
| 23:13:04 | Llorean | With RoLo |
| 23:13:13 | dan_a | amiconn, nls: Which one was as quick? (Well done, amiconn!) |
| 23:13:23 | amiconn | 9 hours from getting hold of the unit to music playing |
| 23:13:34 | amiconn | dan_a: The mini G2 took me 10 hours |
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| 23:14:11 | amiconn | This time it was mostly a question of checking for #ifdef IAUDIO_X5 and add the M5 there |
| 23:14:12 | roolku | nls: the easy solution is to remove the second ACTION_KBD_BACKSPACE line and lose the auto-repeat for backspace all together (which would be a shame) |
| 23:14:21 | midkay | amiconn: congrats! what are the major differences between X5/M5? are there many/any? |
| 23:14:42 | amiconn | (and of course writing the lcd driver, but this is basically the H100 lcd driver with the M5 port addresses) |
| 23:14:51 | midkay | ah, a grayscale LCD.. |
| 23:14:54 | pixelma | greyscale screen / no FM (?) / no USB otg |
| 23:14:55 | amiconn | yup |
| 23:15:09 | amiconn | Same controller as the H1x0, but physically different panel |
| 23:15:11 | pixelma | but: no need to use the subpack |
| 23:15:21 | midkay | interesting.. is it as slow as the H100 LCD? :) |
| 23:15:30 | amiconn | (slightly smaller, but significantly faster) |
| 23:16:06 | midkay | that's nice to hear. 160x128? |
| 23:16:12 | pixelma | yes |
| 23:16:19 | midkay | very nice. :) |
| 23:16:22 | amiconn | Now I have to clean up the tree (I've duplicated many files from X5 which are essentially identcal), then commit |
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| 23:16:49 | midkay | and add it to our ever-growing list of "rockbox runs on the following models" :) |
| 23:16:51 | * | bluebrother sees another manual coming ... |
| 23:17:08 | amiconn | bluebrother: Not many differences, really. Same keypad etc |
| 23:17:13 | * | pixelma gets to work editing the svg... |
| 23:17:31 | dan_a | linuxstb_, Llorean: Confirmed here as well. Sigh. |
| 23:17:32 | linuxstb | Llorean: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFlash |
| 23:17:37 | bluebrother | sure, it's basically combining x5 and h100 manual a bit ;-) |
| 23:17:48 | amiconn | Hmm, maybe I'll wait with the commit until tomorrow. Then I can hopefully provide a correct sim background as well |
| 23:17:52 | bluebrother | but it needs to be done. Someone give me some free time! |
| 23:18:19 | nls | roolku: You'll have to describe it more clearly, it works perfectly in the sim and I don't have a gigabeat |
| 23:18:32 | pixelma | bluebrother: what needs to be done? The platform file - what else? |
| 23:19:09 | bluebrother | not exactly sure −− adjusting some optionals most likely |
| 23:19:29 | bluebrother | and one or two new screenshots because of the missing fm radio |
| 23:19:37 | Llorean | linuxstb: Cool, thanks |
| 23:19:41 | bluebrother | btw, the x5 has a radio, hasn't it? |
| 23:19:48 | pixelma | yes it has |
| 23:20:27 | linuxstb | Llorean: On the Nano, you'll also get a "logo.ipod" file, which is a bit pointless, but the bootloader stores the Apple logo as if it was an application image. |
| 23:20:42 | roolku | nls: I haven't actually tried it yet, but from looking at the action definition, a backspace happens on either the repeat or the release event |
| 23:20:55 | linuxstb | Llorean: The video ipods also have a firmware which presumably runs on the Broadcom chip. |
| 23:21:12 | roolku | nls: so you press - nothing happens, you wait it starts deleting, you let go it deletes one more than you wanted |
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| 23:22:07 | nls | roolku: ah, yes but repeat delete is hardly precise anyway because it is really fast :-) |
| 23:23:01 | jhMikeS | man, I think I'm gonna allow the H120 keyboard to select the text so I can move the cursor just like the x5...and allow the current way that I hate too. |
| 23:23:07 | roolku | nls: I think power+A might be a better option since power is used for combinations already |
| 23:23:58 | * | roolku tries to parse what jhMikeS just said :) |
| 23:24:48 | Llorean | Scroll up/down onto the line that the filename is? |
| 23:24:50 | jhMikeS | pressing the joystick and the power button combo to move the cursor is just awkward. I just want to select the line and move the cursor with the joystick. Both ways can be functional at the same time really. |
| 23:25:02 | * | Llorean is all for that. |
| 23:25:18 | roolku | sounds good |
| 23:30:41 | nls | roolku: ok, commited changed button combo now :-) |
| 23:31:12 | jhMikeS | I was complaining cause I had to rename my voice file. I have to update it though but the old one causes no freeze. |
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| 23:35:40 | roolku | nls: cheers :) (I was wrong about the extra delete - the release event had a pre-condition) |
| 23:36:06 | BigMac | Build (S)DL version? (S) |
| 23:36:12 | BigMac | What is the difference |
| 23:36:19 | Llorean | dan_a: At least one person is reporting Data Aborts on the 5G w/ COP enabled. |
| 23:36:32 | roolku | BigMac: there used to be other options, now there is only one |
| 23:36:43 | bluebrother | that's a leftover from the times when there was a separate x11 and w32 version |
| 23:36:52 | Llorean | roolku: The other options are still there, I believe, just hidden. |
| 23:36:54 | dan_a | Llorean: Thanks, I'll look into it |
| 23:37:03 | Llorean | dan_a: I don't know if he has the newest bootloader yet, though |
| 23:37:15 | BigMac | hmm It says I need to install sdl? |
| 23:37:20 | Llorean | dan_a: It's a user in the forums who's frequently driven me up the wall with his inability to provide coherent answers, etc. |
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| 23:37:48 | BigMac | Llorean: Me:x? |
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| 23:38:50 | BigMac | I'll take that as a yes... |
| 23:39:08 | Llorean | BigMac: Did you mention a data abort regarding the 5G, because that's what I was talking to dan_a about, if you'd paid attention |
| 23:39:12 | Llorean | It's pretty clear I'm not referring to you. |
| 23:39:51 | BigMac | I just tabbed in and you were talking to me so I figured it was a logical connection |
| 23:40:05 | roolku | Llorean: true, I doubt they will still work though (W32 & X11) |
| 23:40:40 | Llorean | roolku: Probably not, no. |
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| 23:41:46 | BigMac | How do I install sdl, it is not covered in the guide |
| 23:42:30 | Llorean | BigMac: If you installed Cygwin as per the guide, or if you used the VMWare image, I believe both include SDL. |
| 23:42:44 | BigMac | I am on Ubuntu |
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| 23:44:18 | saratoga | the ubuntu package manager can install sdl |
| 23:44:27 | saratoga | load it up from the start menu thing, and then search for sdl |
| 23:44:31 | saratoga | takes about 30 seconds |
| 23:46:21 | BigMac | I just tried the terminal route, didn't think to use synaptic |
| 23:48:08 | roolku | nls: power-a works fine :) |
| 23:48:25 | nls | roolku: good, thanks for testing :-) |
| 23:49:33 | nls | BigMac: install the package called ibsdl1.2-dev and you should be fine |
| 23:49:51 | nls | libsdl1.2-dev obviously |
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| 23:50:44 | saratoga | this is shaping up to be a good week |
| 23:50:49 | saratoga | first COP gets commited |
| 23:50:57 | saratoga | and maybe we'll get the sansa docs on friday |
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| 23:51:11 | saratoga | which means i'd get to order a sansa on saturday |
| 23:51:15 | nls | it's only 4 minutes left of the week here |
| 23:51:29 | saratoga | haha |
| 23:51:35 | saratoga | well, good 7 days then |
| 23:51:43 | saratoga | depending on time zone |
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| 23:52:08 | pixelma | nls: I think your clock is a few minutes off ;) |
| 23:52:16 | linuxstb_ | What's the situation with FM on the Sansa? Is it only the US models that have the necessary hardware? |
| 23:53:29 | Llorean | linuxstb_: I believe so, yes. |
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| 23:54:31 | * | dan_a can't figure out how he had RoLo working earlier |
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| 23:57:43 | linuxstb_ | dan_a: Is it possible that rolo_restart() executes (and hence clears cpu_message) before the COP wakes up and notices that it's set? |
| 23:58:20 | BigMac | If I applied patches to the source, and built the sim, will it apply those patches to the sim? |
| 23:58:47 | Llorean | Yes |
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