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| 00:02:06 | jhulst | Does anyone have recommendations for a good disassembler for ARM code? |
| 00:02:16 | preglow | ida pro |
| 00:02:21 | preglow | costs $$$ |
| 00:02:32 | jhulst | I saw that, anything cheaper |
| 00:02:36 | hcs | does the demo do arm? |
| 00:02:38 | preglow | well, i use objdump..... |
| 00:02:44 | preglow | hcs: i think so |
| 00:02:46 | preglow | x86 and arm |
| 00:02:57 | jhulst | it does, but no linux support, didn't look at trying it in Wine |
| 00:03:23 | hcs | That'd be a nice project, open source IDA equivalent |
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| 00:04:54 | preglow | indeed |
| 00:04:57 | preglow | oh yes, indeed |
| 00:05:01 | preglow | i'm sick and tired of objdump |
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| 00:05:26 | jhulst | preglow: Is that the best one you've found for Linux? |
| 00:05:31 | preglow | yes |
| 00:05:37 | preglow | i haven't searched extensively, though |
| 00:05:50 | preglow | it's thoroughly crap, so there has to be something better |
| 00:06:59 | jhulst | hcs: You're open source version of Ida perhaps? http://lida.reverse-engineering.net/ |
| 00:07:17 | hcs | ooh |
| 00:07:32 | BHSPitMonkey | yo |
| 00:07:52 | jhMikeS | we'll I found one thing the gigabeat can't do is make 60fps with pacbox :\ ... so maybe there is some optimization fun with it :) |
| 00:08:01 | preglow | that doesn't do arm, does it? |
| 00:08:17 | amiconn | At least for SH there's something that's *a bit* better than objdump |
| 00:08:29 | hcs | preglow: doesn't look like it, but it'd be a good place to start |
| 00:08:58 | preglow | hcs: well, at least writing an arm disassembler is a pretty easy |
| 00:09:50 | hcs | preglow: yeah, so there's a lot of gui already done |
| 00:11:24 | preglow | antonius hellmann has already written a disassembler which could be integrated |
| 00:11:28 | preglow | if someone was thusly inclined |
| 00:11:37 | hcs | looks like it hasn't been worked on in several years (lida) |
| 00:11:42 | preglow | i don't think i have anything that needs disassembling in the near future |
| 00:14:21 | jhulst | I'm working on the Creative port and am looking around for one |
| 00:16:31 | Arathis | barrywardell: loading the original mi4 works for me too with the new BL. no white screens btw. but is it intended that when loading the OF the screen turns black with white font and the messages are not listed on the normal blue screen as before? |
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| 00:17:12 | barrywardell | Arathis: yes, that is intended. the boot messages are only shown when you hold any button |
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| 00:18:04 | Arathis | okay, than everything works fine so far :) |
| 00:18:10 | FreshPrince | hi @ all |
| 00:18:20 | Arathis | good work and thanks again barrywardell |
| 00:18:50 | barrywardell | glad it works for you :) |
| 00:19:25 | Arathis | especially loading encrypted firmwares makes it some things easier |
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| 00:19:59 | barrywardell | yes, it should make installation easier |
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| 00:25:36 | merwin | Anybody around that can give me write access on the wiki? |
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| 00:28:24 | Arathis | barrywardell: another little thing. although both cpus should be working now I running music and a plugin e.g. bubbles still causes the plugin to halt. not as much as before, but still there. video works much better though |
| 00:28:51 | barrywardell | yeah, there's a known bug with using the COP |
| 00:29:03 | barrywardell | merwin: what name did you use to register? |
| 00:29:30 | barrywardell | Arathis: Slasheri is working on a fix currently. He said he will commit it in a few days |
| 00:29:50 | merwin | barrywardell: BigRocks |
| 00:29:51 | merwin | j/k |
| 00:29:57 | merwin | JustinHeiner |
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| 00:31:06 | FreshPrince | ehm i'm new here−− i want to try rockbox.. i would to try dual boot.. that means the originall firmeware and the rockbox firmware.. and what i have to install.. the ipod video build or the rockbox boot loader.. or both? |
| 00:31:09 | FreshPrince | dont udnerstand that :( |
| 00:31:31 | Arathis | barrywardell: looking forward :) |
| 00:31:36 | barrywardell | merwin: haha. you should now have access |
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| 00:31:48 | merwin | barrywardell: Thanks. |
| 00:31:54 | FreshPrince | i've downloaded a build rockbox.zip and unzip it.. dont know if i need the rockbox boot loader too or nor.. |
| 00:31:56 | FreshPrince | *not |
| 00:32:00 | barrywardell | FreshPrince: you need to install both the bootloader and firmware |
| 00:32:04 | scorche | FreshPrince: just follow the installation instructions on the manual...it makes it dual-boot by default |
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| 00:32:27 | markun | jhMikeS: the Gigabeat LCD updates at 25fps, so pacbox as 60fps doesn't make sense anyway |
| 00:32:32 | Arathis | barrywardell: + radio and rockbox on h10 will be nearly perfect ^^ |
| 00:32:44 | FreshPrince | that means i only have to isntall the firmware? |
| 00:32:52 | FreshPrince | from |
| 00:32:55 | FreshPrince | http://build.rockbox.org/. |
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| 00:34:09 | FreshPrince | hm.. damn i dont understand that :( |
| 00:34:11 | safetydan | FreshPrince, read the installation instructions. It tells you what you need to know. |
| 00:34:21 | * | midgey recommends rbutil :) |
| 00:34:26 | FreshPrince | safetydan, already did.. my english is not very well ^^ |
| 00:34:45 | safetydan | FreshPrince, ah okay. You need both the bootloader and the firmware. |
| 00:34:54 | FreshPrince | ok |
| 00:35:07 | FreshPrince | i already unzipped the build.. now i have a .rockbox/ |
| 00:35:11 | FreshPrince | what i have to do with it? |
| 00:35:20 | safetydan | That should go on to your iPod |
| 00:35:23 | FreshPrince | move it to /mnt/ipod/ ? |
| 00:35:37 | FreshPrince | just "mv ./rockbox /mnt/ipod/ ? |
| 00:35:50 | safetydan | yes |
| 00:35:54 | FreshPrince | oh ok |
| 00:35:57 | FreshPrince | thx |
| 00:37:22 | FreshPrince | mv: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/ipod/.rockbox/langs': Operation not permitted |
| 00:37:22 | FreshPrince | mv: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/ipod/.rockbox/rockbox.ipod': Operation not permitted |
| 00:37:22 | FreshPrince | mv: failed to preserve ownership for `/mnt/ipod/.rockbox': Operation not permitted |
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| 00:37:23 | FreshPrince | hm.. |
| 00:38:27 | hcs | FAT has no ownership |
| 00:38:43 | FreshPrince | ok then i have to ignore those errors? |
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| 00:38:58 | hcs | yes |
| 00:39:02 | FreshPrince | ok :) |
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| 00:39:17 | FreshPrince | ok i try to install the bootloader |
| 00:40:05 | newbie | hey i can't get mplayer to work |
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| 00:41:02 | andrewg867 | argh |
| 00:41:24 | newbie | the mpegplayer isn't even in my plugins on rockbox i ven tried almost everything on my knowledge from http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#UsingVLC_to_encode_on_Linux_Mac |
| 00:42:03 | andrewg867 | freenode has banned my normal internet connection because I had an open proxy |
| 00:42:42 | Moos | newbie: try to look on the viewer dir |
| 00:42:54 | newbie | on rockbox? |
| 00:43:00 | Moos | on the rockbox dir |
| 00:43:03 | safetydan | newbie, the mpegplayer will never be visible in your plugins list. You just need to select or "click on" a suitable mpeg file and it will play |
| 00:43:28 | newbie | moos: where is the viewer dir? |
| 00:43:56 | newbie | safetydan: where would the mpeg file be usually located? |
| 00:44:02 | safetydan | newbie, anywhere you want |
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| 00:44:23 | Moos | viewer is one subdir of the rockbox directory |
| 00:45:19 | Moos | found? |
| 00:45:36 | newbie | safetydan: i don't get it first of all i got the VLC (downloaded) then the mplayer but i didn't do anything else? can u tell me whats the next step i must do |
| 00:46:09 | safetydan | newbie, try downloading one of the test videos and see if those play first before trying to make your own. |
| 00:46:52 | newbie | moos:i am in general settings/file view/ (am i on the right track? |
| 00:47:14 | newbie | safetydan the elephant dream 1? |
| 00:47:26 | Moos | I just read few lines agao, and discoveredthat you just wanted play files |
| 00:47:54 | newbie | i got an ipod video but i wana play video files thru rockbox |
| 00:48:08 | FreshPrince | ok installed |
| 00:48:12 | safetydan | newbie, yes |
| 00:48:15 | FreshPrince | but i can't use the dual boot loader.. |
| 00:48:17 | FreshPrince | dondt know why :/ |
| 00:48:23 | Moos | newbie:I thought you wanted to know where was localised the mpegplayer.viewer |
| 00:48:31 | newbie | safetydan: getting the file now ... |
| 00:48:49 | Moos | like safetydan said you dowload the test file |
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| 00:49:49 | Moos | and folow the instructions on the wiki, how to encode your files if you wanted to play them under rockbox (still slowly IIRC) |
| 00:50:38 | billytwowilly | hey, can rockbox play ogg vorbis and flac? |
| 00:50:42 | newbie | moos: to simplify it can u tell me how do i get to the mpeg player viewer |
| 00:50:47 | markun | billytwowilly: sure |
| 00:50:53 | billytwowilly | on the sansa? |
| 00:50:56 | Moos | hey markun |
| 00:51:02 | markun | hi Moos :) |
| 00:51:26 | markun | billytwowilly: yes |
| 00:51:28 | safetydan | billytwowilly, yes. Rockbox works the same across all supported targets. |
| 00:51:44 | safetydan | (modulo hardware vs. software codec issues of course) |
| 00:52:03 | billytwowilly | So my old archos jukebox 6000 can play ogg flac? |
| 00:52:03 | Moos | newbie: the mpegplyer is "built in" rockbox, just incode the files you videos you want depending of resolution screen of your player... folow the wiki |
| 00:52:18 | Moos | incode/encode |
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| 00:52:37 | markun | billytwowilly: ok, maybe not all :) |
| 00:52:48 | billytwowilly | sorry, had to call you on it;) |
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| 00:53:16 | safetydan | newbie, you don't need to actually directly access the mpeg player. It will start automatically when you click on a suitable video file. |
| 00:54:47 | newbie | safetydan: ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 00:55:26 | newbie | safetydan: btw this is the direct link given for elephants dream http://orange.blender.org/ and where is the file i can downlaod to test on |
| 00:55:43 | amiconn | markun: Found my question? |
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| 00:56:22 | safetydan | newbie, errr... did you rad the PluginMpegplayer page? The sample files I'm talking about are on that page. Here for example http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Elephants_Dream |
| 00:56:28 | safetydan | read even |
| 00:57:04 | Moos | all informations are always on wiki or whatever, like always |
| 00:57:07 | Moos | :( |
| 00:57:07 | Icone | hum...the link dosent work for download the sample :) ( note ) |
| 00:57:12 | chrisjs169 | i think i found a possible bug in sansapatcher |
| 00:57:13 | newbie | moos: i just downloaded the files of mplayer do i ahve to do anyrthing with it? they said something about some codes .... whcih i don't get |
| 00:57:35 | newbie | safetydan:yes i read the http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#UsingVLC_to_encode_on_Linux_Mac |
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| 00:58:08 | safetydan | newbie, that bit is only needed when you're making your own videos. The samples are already in a suitable format for you to use straight away. |
| 00:58:10 | markun | amiconn: yes, but which icons and runtime-definable chars for the player are you talking about? |
| 00:58:31 | newbie | safetydan: i have an ipod video so i take the 320 right? |
| 00:59:18 | safetydan | newbie, whatever the table says |
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| 00:59:47 | newbie | safetydan: i guess its 320 then |
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| 01:00:25 | FreshPrince | shit |
| 01:00:35 | FreshPrince | my ipod is blocked.. |
| 01:00:40 | FreshPrince | why that? what should i do? :/ |
| 01:00:51 | amiconn | markun: bookmark icon, plugin icon, folder icon, firmware icon, language icon, audio file icon, wps icon, playlist icon, text file icon, config icon, Left and right arrows and half-shaded block (cursor) for the vkeyboard, list cursor (right arrow), 'unknown' icon |
| 01:00:59 | chrisjs169 | well, i sorta noticed a different bug, but here's something: when double clicking on the windows exe for sansapatcher, if an old rockbox install is detected, it immediately aborts, closing the window |
| 01:01:00 | barrywardell | chrisjs169: what is it? |
| 01:01:06 | Icone | i have a Gigabeat...and i realy not understant how to encode file :S |
| 01:01:16 | amiconn | Furthermore, the player lcd driver allows defining up to 21 characters at runtime |
| 01:01:32 | chrisjs169 | so it just displays the quick .1 second type flash of the command prompt before closing |
| 01:01:41 | barrywardell | chrisjs169: ah, so it should really keep the window open |
| 01:01:45 | amiconn | A maximum of 4 or 8 (depending on the lcd type) of them can be shown at once |
| 01:01:57 | FreshPrince | heeeeeeelp :((( |
| 01:02:00 | newbie | ocone: same problem here |
| 01:02:17 | chrisjs169 | barrywardell, yes |
| 01:03:03 | Icone | Newbie: nice :P lolll |
| 01:03:06 | markun | amiconn: I guess you can use that unicode range yes. |
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| 01:03:37 | newbie | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#UsingVLC_to_encode_on_Linux_Mac ....... when they say in a terminal do: mencoder <input> -of mpeg -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=192 -af resample=44100:0:0 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=<bitrate> -vf scale,harddup -ofps 25 -zoom -xy <the width> -o <filename>.mpg .... where can we find this so-called terminal? |
| 01:04:09 | barrywardell | newbie: what operating system are you using? |
| 01:04:24 | chrisjs169 | just something like the others, 'press enter to exit sansapatcher |
| 01:04:34 | barrywardell | FreshPrince: what do you mean by blocked? |
| 01:04:34 | safetydan | newbie, have you got the sample video playing yet? That should still be your first step. |
| 01:04:42 | newbie | windows |
| 01:04:55 | markun | newbie: in run type "cmd" to get to the terminal |
| 01:05:11 | newbie | safetydan: its impossible to torrent it lol .. 1 seeder and the downlod havn't started yet |
| 01:05:13 | Icone | WE HAVE TO TYPE THE COMMAND :o |
| 01:05:17 | FreshPrince | barrywardell, well i did something on the ipod.. and then came up a splash screen.. colored.. animated.. after that it blocked up.. |
| 01:05:33 | Icone | all the command...omg |
| 01:05:35 | FreshPrince | and now i can't do anything.. can't reboot can't stop the ipod |
| 01:05:36 | FreshPrince | etc.. |
| 01:05:38 | safetydan | newbie, torrent? It's a direct download from the rockbox wiki page. |
| 01:05:52 | newbie | oh |
| 01:05:58 | markun | Icone: your computer probably supports a copy-paste feature :) |
| 01:06:51 | Icone | yeah...but in the CMD |
| 01:06:55 | safetydan | Icone, newbie, there's also a nice batch file you can use that's on that wiki page. That way you don't need to know about the command line. |
| 01:06:59 | Icone | the ctrl + v dosent work |
| 01:07:07 | newbie | safetydan: 4:3?? 16:9?? wats that |
| 01:07:17 | Icone | the format of the screen |
| 01:07:30 | safetydan | newbise, aspect ratios. 4:3 is what you see normally on TV. 16:9 is widescreen. |
| 01:07:32 | Icone | 4:3 = normal 16:9 = widescreen ( HD ) |
| 01:07:33 | newbie | safetydan i got all the files i needed just that i gotta know how to use them |
| 01:07:35 | barrywardell | FreshPrince: hold menu+select for a few seconds |
| 01:08:01 | newbie | safetydan: my ipod video is which? 16:9? |
| 01:08:29 | newbie | safetydan: since its a trial ithin 4:3 would be easier to test right? |
| 01:08:39 | Icone | try 4:3 |
| 01:08:40 | newbie | think* |
| 01:08:43 | safetydan | newbie, probably 4:3 but it doesn't really matter. The 16:9 video will just play with black bars at the top and bottom |
| 01:09:09 | FreshPrince | ohhhhhh ok |
| 01:09:16 | FreshPrince | now barrywardell :D thx a lot! |
| 01:09:58 | Icone | so now...if i understand, i open the root folder of VLC, i open a CMD, i past the command, type enter, and this is finishe ? |
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| 01:11:26 | newbie | safetydan: downloading now ... ok so i downlaoded VCL and used VLC-transcode.bat now what do i do next while waiting dor the download |
| 01:11:57 | jhMikeS | markun: Really? 25fps? From what I observed running it, 50 wouldn't raise any eyebrows |
| 01:11:58 | safetydan | Icone, or if you download the batch file, you just drag the video file you want to encode on top of the batch file. |
| 01:12:29 | markun | jhMikeS: what do you mean? |
| 01:12:44 | safetydan | It's amazing what you can find out when you read the documentation. |
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| 01:13:17 | jhMikeS | pacbox ran 45.somthing fps wide open and was very close to the lcd refresh rate from the motion on the screen beating slowly against it |
| 01:13:32 | Icone | safetydan, where i can download the batch file ? :S |
| 01:13:47 | jhMikeS | and clearly smoother than the 30. the game was obviously near full speed. |
| 01:13:54 | safetydan | Icone, did you read the PluginMpegplayer page? It's on there. |
| 01:13:56 | newbie | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#Elephants_Dream is the 4:3 download dead? can someone plz check |
| 01:14:33 | markun | jhMikeS: well, when I calculated the framerate from the values in the registers of the LCD controller I got 25, but maybe I made a mistake somewhere. |
| 01:15:30 | jhMikeS | I don't know, there's plugin for that. Would have to have an overlay implentation done. |
| 01:15:37 | newbie | for i pod video http://mikachu.rockbox.org/elephantsdream-q6-320x240-830kbps.mpg 4:3 |
| 01:15:42 | andrewg867 | :D I found the original PDF of the application notes on programming for the LV24000 FM chip |
| 01:15:48 | andrewg867 | http://www.sacsys.com.tw/sacweb/marcom/epaper/images/AN2400S04@.pdf |
| 01:15:51 | andrewg867 | for the record |
| 01:15:56 | jhMikeS | I could be out to lunch but it definitely looks smoother and faster than what 25 would be |
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| 01:16:29 | jhMikeS | just put pacbox wide open and look :\ |
| 01:17:21 | markun | jhMikeS: the plugin doesn't calculate the value I'm talking about.. |
| 01:18:26 | newbie | can anyone check if this link is working http://mikachu.rockbox.org/elephantsdream-q6-320x240-830kbps.mpg |
| 01:19:00 | markun | jhMikeS: that's just the number of time we can copy the rockbox framebuffer to the framebuffer which is used by the LCD controller |
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| 01:19:29 | Icone | newvie, no...its not work |
| 01:20:11 | newbie | now how do i get the file |
| 01:20:24 | jhMikeS | ok |
| 01:21:11 | newbie | can anyone tell me how to get the elephant dream video because the 4:3 video link is dead |
| 01:21:22 | safetydan | newbie, I guess you'll just have to try the tracker at http://rockbox.cleansoap.org/tracker/library.php?i=1 or maybe try one of the other video links |
| 01:21:36 | Alonea | anyone compile rockbox on linux? |
| 01:22:21 | safetydan | Alonea, yes. |
| 01:22:38 | newbie | safetydan: umm ok |
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| 01:23:21 | Alonea | safetydan: ok, I cannot get it to compile. I ran rockboxdev.sh and at the end it says make the path and I did, but yet it still says it cant find gcc-arm-elf thing. |
| 01:24:07 | safetydan | Alonea, what does "echo $PATH" say? |
| 01:24:10 | newbie | safetydan: Open a command line prompt and go to the VLC installation directory (default is C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\ ). Run the following command line:... (this thing doesn't work on cmd.exe )vlc <input> −−sout=#transcode{vcodec=mp2v,vb=600,width=<the width>,height=<the height>,acodec=mp3,ab=128,samplerate=44100,audio-sync}:std{access=file,mux=ps,url=<filename>.mpg |
| 01:24:36 | Alonea | safetydan: /usr/local/arm-elf/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:/home/alonea/jdk1.6.0/bin:/home/alonea/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
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| 01:24:52 | l0de | Rockbox on 80gb 5.5 = status? |
| 01:25:11 | safetydan | Alonea, well that looks mostly okay. Is there a gcc-arm-elf in /usr/local/arm-elf/bin on your system? |
| 01:25:25 | Alonea | safetydan: yes, I checked earlier |
| 01:25:28 | safetydan | l0de, same as it was before. If it changes, there'll be an update on the front page of the site. |
| 01:26:03 | markun | Alonea: and if you type arm-elf-gcc it cannot find the command? |
| 01:26:09 | l0de | I see this as a indicator of the imminent death of the open source movement. |
| 01:26:31 | safetydan | newbie, try just using the batch file. |
| 01:26:31 | nls | ? |
| 01:26:43 | Alonea | markun: alonea@alonea-laptop:~$ arm-elf-gcc |
| 01:26:45 | Alonea | arm-elf-gcc: no input files |
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| 01:26:56 | markun | Alonea: looks good |
| 01:27:02 | safetydan | Alonea, looks like you're all set to go and build Rockbox then. Have you actually tried it? |
| 01:27:24 | Alonea | safetydan: many times. I will try again |
| 01:27:42 | markun | Alonea: so, you run tools/configure and it can't find arm-elf-gcc? |
| 01:28:13 | Alonea | markun: ../tools/configure: 1471: arm-elf-gcc: not found |
| 01:28:20 | newbie | safetydan: i already did ...now at the mplayer part mencoder <input> -of mpeg -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=192 -af resample=44100:0:0 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=<bitrate> -vf scale,harddup -ofps 25 -zoom -xy <t |
| 01:28:38 | Alonea | markun: and the procedure is to mkdir name go into that folder and do the ../tools/configure right? |
| 01:28:51 | markun | Alonea: yes |
| 01:29:05 | newbie | safetydan:in terminal/cmd: u cannot type mencoder <input> -of mpeg -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp2:abitrate=192 -af resample=44100:0:0 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2video:vbitrate=<bitrate> -vf scale,harddup -ofps 25 -zoom -xy <t |
| 01:29:13 | safetydan | newbie, ah... I think you're misreading. The batch file should do everything you need. |
| 01:29:17 | Alonea | markun: ok, thats what I have been doing and I still get a arm-elf-gcc not found.. |
| 01:29:33 | markun | Alonea: no idea what you are doing wrong then.. |
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| 01:29:46 | safetydan | Alonea, are you doing this in the same shell/terminal as where you did echo $PATH? |
| 01:29:54 | Alonea | safetydan: yes. |
| 01:29:54 | newbie | safetydan: u mean once i clicked on VLC-transcode.bat its all done? |
| 01:30:12 | safetydan | newbie, read the words around the batch file like on the wiki page. |
| 01:30:28 | safetydan | link even |
| 01:30:29 | Icone | lol safetydan...thats because im french...:S |
| 01:30:37 | Icone | thats why i come here |
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| 01:31:01 | newbie | afetydan:which batch file r u talking about i am quite confused here = |
| 01:31:03 | safetydan | Alonea, okay you've got something very weird going on there. |
| 01:31:42 | safetydan | newbie, the sixth paragraph here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer#UsingVLC_to_encode_on_Linux_Mac which has the batch file VLC-transcode.bat. That paragraph tells you exactly what to do. |
| 01:31:52 | Alonea | safetydan: really. this completely baffles me too. I could try deleting my rockbox folder and just start over. might as well try. |
| 01:32:43 | newbie | safetydan:i am talking about the mplayer part (i already did the 6th paragraph part) |
| 01:33:07 | safetydan | newbie, those two sections are talking about two different ways to encode files. You do one, or the other. Not both. |
| 01:33:22 | safetydan | You either encode with VLC, or you encode with mplayer/mencoder. Not both. |
| 01:34:15 | newbie | safetydan: oh .. |
| 01:34:41 | newbie | safetydan: since i got VLC in how do i encode videos? |
| 01:35:25 | safetydan | newbie, have you read the VLC instructions? |
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| 01:38:01 | newbie | safetydan:A convenient way for Windows users to achieve the same result is to use VLC-transcode.bat. Simply save this file somewhere and drag&drop a video onto it and it will be transcoded using the above settings. You will probably want to edit the file to change width and height (default is 320x240). |
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| 01:38:22 | newbie | safetydan: is that really it? |
| 01:38:39 | safetydan | newbie, yes |
| 01:38:53 | newbie | ok first of all i have a kernal file on my ipod root |
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| 01:39:21 | safetydan | newbie, what does that have to do with video encoding? |
| 01:39:32 | newbie | safetydan: wat does that do? |
| 01:39:52 | safetydan | newbie, your comment about a "kernal" file on your iPod root? |
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| 01:40:06 | jhMikeS | hmmm...I figured it's time to collect the chip datasheets for gigabeat and I notice the lcd controller absent :\ |
| 01:40:08 | newbie | there is 1 there |
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| 01:40:28 | newbie | kernal VLC media bin file |
| 01:40:48 | newbie | that does nothing right? |
| 01:41:26 | markun | jhMikeS: yes, that's unfortunate. I've tried to contact Toshiba and Toshiba Matsushita many times without results |
| 01:42:04 | safetydan | newbie, I'm confused. You don't need anything on your iPod to do encoding. |
| 01:42:16 | markun | jhMikeS: but the LCD update is party done by the LCD controller in the S3C2440 |
| 01:42:25 | newbie | safetydan: all encoding is done on the PC? |
| 01:42:50 | markun | newbie: yes |
| 01:43:50 | Icone | hey newbie, do you have MSN ? :P |
| 01:43:55 | newbie | markun: so after the video is converted i can juwt put it anywhere right? |
| 01:44:01 | newbie | icone:yes |
| 01:44:19 | Icone | j okay add me :P : Crazy.Qc@hotmail.com |
| 01:44:48 | newbie | markun: put* |
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| 01:44:59 | markun | newbie: yes |
| 01:45:04 | markun | good night all |
| 01:45:11 | jhMikeS | markun: just ignoring you? how rude. better they just say "we're never gonna say" |
| 01:45:18 | newbie | markun: thx and good night |
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| 01:45:29 | newbie | safetydan: thx for everywthing |
| 01:45:50 | newbie | icone: you better add me i gotta sleep now |
| 01:45:58 | markun | jhMikeS: well, Toshiba just ignores me. I email with the linux guys at Toshiba, and they keep requesting it, but no reply from Toshiba |
| 01:46:01 | Icone | okay, whats ur msn ? :) |
| 01:46:18 | Alonea | nope...still can't find it. *big sigh* |
| 01:46:22 | newbie | icone: limpbizkit250@hotmail.com |
| 01:46:28 | Icone | perfect :) |
| 01:46:33 | markun | jhMikeS: Toshiba Matsushita (who made the module) can't give me any info because it's a custom product and because I'm not a company |
| 01:46:40 | jhMikeS | markun: are the chips on these integrated sets usually normal chips or packaged somehow without id? someone must have a smashed one around. :\ |
| 01:47:25 | safetydan | Alonea, so your steps are something like "svn checkout http://.../rockbox; cd rockbox/tools; ./rockboxdev.sh; cd ..; mkdir build-dir; cd build-dir; ../tools/configure"? |
| 01:47:28 | markun | jhMikeS: the driver IC is embedded in the glass of the LCD module. Toffe was able to read the markings, but they didn't tell us anything |
| 01:47:45 | jhMikeS | I see. |
| 01:48:51 | markun | if we want to have our own bootloader in flash we need to setup the LCD over SPI. We can just send the same bytes as the OF does, but I would prefer to have a datasheet so we actually know what we are doing.. |
| 01:48:54 | Alonea | safetydan: yes. |
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| 01:49:52 | jhMikeS | It's their choice to give it out or not I suppose...there is no can't in this case imo. |
| 01:51:29 | markun | jhMikeS: but you could try it again, maybe you have more luck |
| 01:51:36 | newbie | safetydan: i converted a mp4 to mpg and it can't be played |
| 01:51:39 | markun | or they get tired of us and give in :) |
| 01:52:00 | jhMikeS | Well, if we can get a whole army marching on 'em :) |
| 01:52:32 | jhMikeS | Make them spend more money dealing with that than what they'd lose by giving in :) |
| 01:53:11 | newbie | markun: and idea y the video i converted from mp4 to mpg doen't work? |
| 01:53:38 | newbie | no matter how many times i clicked on it on my ipod the video doesn't appear |
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| 01:54:14 | safetydan | newbie, do you get any error message? |
| 01:55:17 | newbie | safetydan: nothing at all .. i could see the file but cannot cannot watch it |
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| 01:56:26 | safetydan | newbie, that doesn't sound like you're selecting it correctly. Are you selecting it in the same way that you would select a music file to play? |
| 01:56:50 | newbie | safetydan: yes |
| 01:56:57 | markun | newbie: how did you convert it? |
| 01:57:02 | jhMikeS | or...maybe a more suble appraoch...hmmm |
| 01:57:03 | newbie | safetydan: i can play the music |
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| 01:57:38 | newbie | markun: i draggd the video file over the VLC-transcode and i get a mpg file |
| 01:57:39 | markun | newbie: btw, are you the same limpbizkit guy who kept changing his nick? |
| 01:58:00 | newbie | markun u mean my bro? |
| 01:58:06 | markun | I don't know |
| 01:58:13 | jhMikeS | markun: so everything's that it of does with the controller is known or not? |
| 01:58:35 | newbie | so how can it be solved? |
| 01:58:35 | Moos | markun: not on the bed yet? ;p |
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| 01:58:50 | markun | jhMikeS: yes, it just send a lot of bytes to it over SPI during the init of the LCD |
| 01:58:54 | markun | Moos: almost :) |
| 01:58:58 | saratoga | does anyone have a link to the images for the two partitions on the sansa? |
| 01:59:04 | saratoga | i want to try them out in the emulator |
| 01:59:07 | saratoga | buti have no sansa |
| 01:59:46 | newbie | markun, safetydan,moos: any idea y the converted mpg file cannot be played on the ipod? |
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| 01:59:57 | barrywardell | saratoga: the firmware partition is on Bagder's site |
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| 02:00:14 | barrywardell | the other partition is just a standard fat32 partition |
| 02:00:43 | markun | newbie: is the file called .mpg or .mpeg on your player? I believe windows sometimes changes the extension when you copy the file or something. |
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| 02:01:19 | saratoga | barrywardell: is it the same as the bl rom? |
| 02:01:29 | saratoga | or is there another link i'm missing |
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| 02:02:08 | barrywardell | it's on this page: http://daniel.haxx.se/sansa/e200.html |
| 02:02:18 | saratoga | thanks |
| 02:02:20 | saratoga | i must be blind |
| 02:02:35 | newbie | rofl i am also confused : look first of all the fle is mpg |
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| 02:03:23 | markun | newbie: can you hold 'select' on the file and the choose "open with" and then select the mpegplayer? |
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| 02:04:09 | saratoga | can someone suggest a good way to make a fat32 bin? |
| 02:04:24 | newbie | markun : wow a new discovery ... where did my video go its just sound now |
| 02:04:27 | saratoga | short of finding a reasonibly sized thumb drive and imaging it |
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| 02:05:14 | pozsy | hi there |
| 02:06:00 | pozsy | Is anyone here who mentors gsoc projects? |
| 02:07:00 | pozsy | first of all, i'd like to ask if it is still possible to apply, or you cannot accept more students |
| 02:07:13 | newbie | markun: b4 i converted a mp4 to mpg but now let me try an avi file ... maybe it can't convert mp4's |
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| 02:09:13 | safetydan | pozsy, the google summer of code web pages would be a better place to ask that question maybe. |
| 02:09:56 | Llorean | pozsy: It's still possible until the 24th, I believe |
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| 02:10:19 | Llorean | pozsy: March 26th even, it seems. |
| 02:10:32 | Llorean | pozsy: See http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/web/guide-to-the-gsoc-web-app-for-student-applicants |
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| 02:11:03 | JdGordo|uni | hey all |
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| 02:12:27 | sevenwords | hi everyone |
| 02:12:41 | RaRe- | hello :) |
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| 02:13:24 | JdGordo|uni | Llorean: hey, yuo missed the fun last night :) I almost bricked my sansa :p |
| 02:14:19 | ment | what does mean "bricked" in mp3 player context? :) |
| 02:14:36 | JdGordo|uni | killed it |
| 02:14:43 | hachi | it's a verb form |
| 02:14:53 | hachi | so it would be to turn the mp3 player into a brick (effective) |
| 02:14:53 | JdGordo|uni | turn it into a useless peice of plastic... |
| 02:14:57 | ment | oh, i see |
| 02:15:00 | newbie | markun,moo,safetydan: any ideas how do i solve thi problem |
| 02:15:56 | Llorean | JdGordo|uni: I've never gotten mine even to a point I need e200tool, Recovery Mode is the worst I've gone. |
| 02:16:20 | sevenwords | I'm almost done with a new wps for the Gigabeat F and would like to hear what you guys think. It's my 1st attempt. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9456.0 |
| 02:16:30 | RaRe` | i want to firmware flash my player but i have a bad feeling ill brick it so i leave it be for now :P |
| 02:17:08 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: is it fully back to normal now? |
| 02:17:10 | RaRe` | i like it sevenwords its a nice theme |
| 02:17:27 | JdGordo|uni | Llorean: dont dd /dev/zero to the 20mb parititon or you will need to :p |
| 02:17:32 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: yep, all good now |
| 02:18:08 | barrywardell | phew! |
| 02:18:21 | JdGordo|uni | yeah |
| 02:18:32 | sevenwords | Thank you RaRe |
| 02:18:44 | RaRe` | anyone had a play around with the k5 |
| 02:18:51 | RaRe` | your selcome sevenwords |
| 02:18:55 | newbie | sevenwords: is your theme u linked downloadable =P |
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| 02:21:16 | Projectwhat | hello |
| 02:21:23 | Projectwhat | is rockbox linux |
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| 02:21:40 | Llorean | No |
| 02:21:42 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni and Llorean: can you guys test the bootloader so that we can start providing sansapatcher builds? |
| 02:21:49 | sevenwords | Not yet, still waiting for ok from the artist to use his artwork. |
| 02:21:53 | barrywardell | the current svn bootloader |
| 02:22:05 | sevenwords | I may want to add icons as well. |
| 02:22:06 | newbie | oh |
| 02:22:09 | Llorean | barrywardell: Sure, I'll give it atest. |
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| 02:22:19 | Llorean | It may be 5 or 10 minutes |
| 02:23:01 | newbie | hey can anyone tell me how do i convert using VLC for videos because when i convert only sound appears |
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| 02:23:14 | Llorean | newbie: Have you tried playing the converted file on your computer? |
| 02:23:21 | RaRe` | you should do different colour bg sevenwords :) |
| 02:23:23 | RaRe` | http://www.arach.net.au/~rarebreed/mov/blue.jpg |
| 02:23:29 | RaRe` | http://www.arach.net.au/~rarebreed/mov/orange.jpg |
| 02:23:31 | RaRe` | etc |
| 02:23:36 | newbie | lorean: i did |
| 02:23:59 | Llorean | newbie: And? |
| 02:24:06 | barrywardell | Llorean: no rush. I'm going to sleep shortly, so I'll just check the logs in the morning |
| 02:24:24 | newbie | lorean:and only sounds come out only whereas in my ipod its unselectable (cannot play it but i can see the file on rockbox tho) |
| 02:25:14 | Projectwhat | is rockbox linux??? |
| 02:25:23 | Projectwhat | confused |
| 02:25:35 | Galois | rockbox is not linux |
| 02:25:38 | safetydan | Projectwhat, nope. |
| 02:25:41 | sevenwords | I like the blue a lot :) But who knows, maybe I can add different color variations with the zip when I have it finished. |
| 02:25:45 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: not for 5 hours or so... but i will.... |
| 02:25:55 | RaRe` | sounds good sevenwords |
| 02:25:59 | JdGordo|uni | I put on svn + usb patch and had no problems last nuight |
| 02:26:24 | Projectwhat | <safetydan> then what is it |
| 02:26:40 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: dan_a fixed the lcd driver crashing and flickering today |
| 02:26:40 | Llorean | Projectwhat: It's Rockbox. |
| 02:26:51 | newbie | Llorean: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer and look You will probably want to edit the file to change width and height (default is 320x240). |
| 02:26:52 | Llorean | Projectwhat: It's coded mostly from scratch, and not based on anything. |
| 02:26:52 | safetydan | ProjectWhat, does the rockbox front page not tell you enough? |
| 02:27:04 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: and there were a good few other changes to the bootloader today too |
| 02:27:07 | Llorean | newbie: Yes, I know that. The batch file there works fine for me. |
| 02:27:09 | Projectwhat | didnt feel like reading |
| 02:27:16 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: but no rush. I'll check the logs in the morning |
| 02:27:21 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: cool :) |
| 02:27:23 | Soap | Projectwhat: if you won' |
| 02:27:23 | Llorean | newbie: I asked you, what happens when you try to play the files on your iPod on your computer. |
| 02:27:26 | newbie | llorean: hmmm ... wats wrong with mine? |
| 02:27:30 | Soap | t read - we won't talk. |
| 02:27:34 | Llorean | newbie: Did you change the framerate? |
| 02:27:36 | safetydan | Projectwhat, well it's amazing what you can learn when you make your own effort to read things. |
| 02:27:42 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: usb detection breaks your mac's usb so you reboot that? or the sansa? |
| 02:27:46 | Projectwhat | <Soap> huh |
| 02:28:00 | newbie | ipod: its unselectable on computer it has no pic but have sounds |
| 02:28:04 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: i end up having to reboot my mac. it's very annoying |
| 02:28:05 | Llorean | Projectwhat: If you can't be bothered to read the information we've provided, why should we be bothered to answer your questions? |
| 02:28:10 | Galois | I mean, considering that the discussion in this channel needs to be read in order to be understood, it's not a good sign if you don't read |
| 02:28:10 | newbie | rean framerate? |
| 02:28:20 | Llorean | newbie: What do you mean unselectable on the computer? |
| 02:28:23 | Projectwhat | cuz this is the irc |
| 02:28:27 | Llorean | newbie: And "rean"? |
| 02:28:32 | Soap | Projectwhat: there is about nothing more insulting you can say than "I'm too lazy to read, so I asked other people to spoon-feed me." |
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| 02:28:46 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: maybe its doing the check too quickly? |
| 02:28:47 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: no usb devices work until i reboot. |
| 02:28:55 | Llorean | Projectwhat: What does this being the IRC have to do with anything. This is a channel for questions not answered in the documentation. That's where there's the link in the channel topic. |
| 02:28:55 | Galois | and especially if the spoon-feeding involves a written communication medium |
| 02:29:22 | newbie | lorean:and only sounds come out only whereas in my ipod its unselectable (cannot play it but i can see the file on rockbox tho) |
| 02:29:35 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: i don't think it's that. i think it's that we're enableing the usb controller without fully setting it up first |
| 02:29:43 | newbie | sounds come out when i play on my com |
| 02:29:47 | Projectwhat | <soap> I've have been trying to fix my PC for the past 2-3 days. Just got ubuntu and was rocky at first. I anint got time to read |
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| 02:30:00 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: so does the mac usb die if you plug it in with rockbox running? |
| 02:30:06 | Soap | everyone here has a life too, Projectwhat. |
| 02:30:08 | Llorean | newbie: If only sound comes out, VLC isn't encoding the video part of it. You need to seek help from VLC support if your VLC is not working properly, as it's not Rockbox software, it's just a tool we suggest you use because it works for us. |
| 02:30:13 | barrywardell | yes, it's not specific to the bootloader |
| 02:30:25 | JdGordo|uni | ah ok then |
| 02:30:30 | newbie | llorean oh |
| 02:30:35 | Soap | If you don't have time to read you don't have time for Rockbox. It's not food, air, or water. Stop insisting your time is more valuable than ours. |
| 02:30:38 | Llorean | Projectwhat: If you haven't got time to read, then wait until you do have time. We haven't got time to bother with people who think their time is more important than ours. |
| 02:30:39 | Projectwhat | <soap> obviously not or u wouldnt be spending ur whole time in an IRC |
| 02:30:56 | newbie | llorean: i didn't set the frame rate |
| 02:31:02 | Llorean | Projectwhat: This is the DEVELOPMENT channel, we get work done here. |
| 02:31:10 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: so basically I think your usb detection in the bootloader is ready to go once usb_detect() itself is fixed |
| 02:31:17 | Llorean | newbie: What is the original frame rate of the file? Try manually setting it to 15 in the .bat |
| 02:31:35 | Projectwhat | <Llorean> then why are u in an IRC |
| 02:31:35 | newbie | how do i do that? |
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| 02:31:49 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>go get that work done |
| 02:32:04 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>rather thatn just sittin around on ur butt |
| 02:32:07 | Llorean | Projectwhat: Work on Rockbox. Please, try to employ the brain. |
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| 02:32:22 | Llorean | This is where development discussion occurs, as well as technical support for our users. |
| 02:32:25 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>What exacly do u do |
| 02:32:28 | Llorean | But we require that you read the documentation first. |
| 02:32:29 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>huh |
| 02:32:37 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>besides answers questions |
| 02:32:41 | Llorean | That's why there's a link in the channel topic with the guidelines for this channel. |
| 02:32:45 | newbie | projectwhat: go and get a life and read the manual |
| 02:32:54 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>exacly |
| 02:33:01 | Projectwhat | <Llorean>thats all u do |
| 02:33:12 | Soap | bye bye Ben |
| 02:33:18 | Alonea | Projectwhat: stop being lazy and read like everyone else had to. no exceptions. no "special" people. |
| 02:33:18 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: do we know whats actually wrong with usb_detect() or is that completly undocumented? |
| 02:33:40 | JdGordo|uni | shouldnt it work the same as the ipods? or do they crash your mac also? |
| 02:33:51 | markun | Projectwhat: what do you want to know about rockbox? |
| 02:33:58 | Llorean | Projectwhat: I answer questions that deserve to be answered, administer our forums, test and develop the software, and work on the manual. |
| 02:34:03 | newbie | projectwhat: read the manual and u'll know the things well |
| 02:34:33 | newbie | llorean: hey my VCL isn't fully in english? |
| 02:34:47 | Projectwhat | <markun> Ahh some of the other people helped me out but the got all ticked |
| 02:34:54 | Projectwhat | rofl |
| 02:34:54 | newbie | lorean: it has some wierd windings lol |
| 02:34:54 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: all PP devices do. |
| 02:35:16 | Projectwhat | Later noobs |
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| 02:35:59 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: there is documentation in the freescale i.mx31 reference manual |
| 02:36:06 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: and a linux driver |
| 02:36:06 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: ok, then why have this detecion in the ipod bootloader and not in sansa? |
| 02:36:13 | JdGordo|uni | just be careful your in OF already :p |
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| 02:36:32 | barrywardell | is it in the ipod bootloader? |
| 02:36:41 | newbie | hey how do i change my VCL it english not hyroglphs |
| 02:36:53 | newbie | in* |
| 02:37:06 | Llorean | newbie: It's VLC, and as I said, it's not our software. Please if you have questions about it specifically ask in the appropriate place. |
| 02:37:15 | Alonea | thank kami...I hate rude people. I can understand bad day and being slightly on edge, but that was starting to irk my senses. |
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| 02:37:26 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: 99% sure it is... |
| 02:37:34 | newbie | llorean: ok but please don't enter vcl.com |
| 02:37:35 | Alonea | ok, markun, I redid it all again and now it says to make path to a different place. |
| 02:37:46 | Alonea | markun: Make your PATH include :/usr/local/sh-elf/bin:/usr/local/m68k-elf/bin:/usr/local/arm-elf/bin |
| 02:37:49 | barrywardell | I can't see it in bootloader/ipod.c... |
| 02:37:53 | Llorean | newbie: VLC, I've said this a few times now. NOT VCL. |
| 02:38:08 | newbie | llorean ok thx |
| 02:38:10 | markun | Alonea: well, then you have installed all 3 crosscompilers |
| 02:38:21 | Alonea | markun: ^___^ |
| 02:38:38 | Alonea | markun: ok, how do I do the export path thingie again? |
| 02:38:40 | Llorean | Alonea: As far as I'm concerned, "a bad day" doesn't excuse "I don't care if you have rules, I choose not to accept them." :) |
| 02:39:07 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: Oh, then it probably boots into rb, then rolos the OF? |
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| 02:39:13 | Llorean | barrywardell: Does Rockbox currently shut down on USB insert on Sansa? |
| 02:39:35 | JdGordo|uni | Llorean: not yet.. but it should, like you suggested |
| 02:39:38 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: yes, I think so |
| 02:39:39 | Alonea | Llorean: yeah. and I mean bad day as in be a bit short with people, not completely disregard what people say and be an *insert bad name here* |
| 02:39:55 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:39:55 | * | barrywardell wishes we just had a rockbox usb driver |
| 02:39:58 | Llorean | JdGordo|uni: With this bootloader, if it did, we'd have the same kind of "USB Support" the iPods have, very useful. |
| 02:40:18 | Llorean | barrywardell: The bootloader seems good so far. Several reboots with and without USB, and the CRC is staying consistent. |
| 02:40:43 | Llorean | barrywardell: Quick question: It'll look for rockbox.e200 in /.rockbox/? |
| 02:40:45 | barrywardell | i'm pretty sure I fixed the crc problem |
| 02:40:50 | Llorean | Oh wait |
| 02:40:51 | Llorean | Nevermind |
| 02:40:51 | * | JdGordo|uni wishes along with barrywardell |
| 02:40:56 | Llorean | Just noticed the newest build is like that automatically. |
| 02:40:57 | Llorean | FINALLY |
| 02:41:26 | barrywardell | Llorean: it looks for rockbox.mi4 first in /.rockbox/, then in /, then it looks for rockbox.e200 in /.rockbox/, then in / |
| 02:42:03 | Alonea | markun: safetydan: ok, this seems a bit different. I scrolled up and there was some more stuff. http://pastebin.ca/404493 |
| 02:42:34 | JdGordo|uni | barrywardell: .mi4 is used on all pp? or just e200 and h10? |
| 02:42:53 | barrywardell | all pp except for ipod |
| 02:43:05 | barrywardell | so just e200 and h10 for now |
| 02:43:07 | JdGordo|uni | do we really want to reuse the extensions? |
| 02:43:18 | Llorean | The USB detection in the bootloader isn't wholly reliable |
| 02:43:22 | Llorean | Or is it gone from this version? |
| 02:43:32 | barrywardell | it hasn't been added yet |
| 02:43:44 | Llorean | Ah, well it should be. :) |
| 02:43:49 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: I'm not sure |
| 02:44:31 | Llorean | barrywardell: This bootloader is at least far, far more reliable than the previous one that loaded the OF from the boot partition. Many reboots now, and everything seems good. |
| 02:44:37 | barrywardell | JdGordo|uni: it won't load a rockbox.mi4 that's not for its model |
| 02:46:34 | JdGordo|uni | ok |
| 02:47:10 | barrywardell | it's still open for debate until we release a bootloader I guess |
| 02:47:28 | barrywardell | but not now - now is sleep time! |
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| 02:53:50 | webguest20 | can anyone tell me where i can get rockboy for my ipod 5G??? |
| 02:54:17 | saratoga | rockboy comes with rockbox |
| 02:54:32 | billytwowilly | rockboy? |
| 02:54:41 | webguest20 | where is it.... cuz i cant find it when i check lugins |
| 02:54:46 | saratoga | its not a plugin |
| 02:54:48 | webguest20 | plugins* |
| 02:54:55 | webguest20 | where is it then???? |
| 02:55:12 | saratoga | i believe its loaded automatically whenever you try to load a gameboy rom |
| 02:55:24 | saratoga | i don't know where its actually stored |
| 02:55:39 | webguest20 | ok... then can anyone tell me where to get some gameboy or gameboy colour roms??? |
| 02:55:51 | saratoga | download them from the games you purchased |
| 02:56:08 | webguest20 | how do i do that??? |
| 02:56:37 | saratoga | google it |
| 02:56:52 | webguest20 | ok.... thx |
| 02:57:45 | webguest20 | here's a good site if anyone is looking for roms..... - http://www.gameboyroms.org/main.php?platform=Gameboy |
| 02:57:58 | Llorean | webguest20: No, we don't mean google "Gameboy Roms" |
| 02:58:08 | Llorean | webguest20: Downloading them is infringing copyright law. |
| 02:59:04 | webguest20 | ok then what did you mean???? |
| 02:59:31 | Llorean | Look for either homebrew ROMs that are freely distributable, or find out how to get the files off the gameboy games you already own. That's what google was recommended for. |
| 02:59:41 | saratoga | you asked how to copy a rom from a game, i suggested you search google |
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| 03:00:01 | Llorean | Man, I can't believe people are saying Rockbox on Sansa isn't loud enough.. |
| 03:01:11 | saratoga | maybe they've got really hard to drive headphones? |
| 03:01:17 | Llorean | It's possible |
| 03:01:32 | saratoga | i know people say stuff like that abou tthe ipods occasionally |
| 03:01:41 | Llorean | Well they're saying we aren't as loud as the OF |
| 03:01:43 | saratoga | with mine, i listen at 1 tick in the retail firmware |
| 03:01:50 | saratoga | as in one pixel from mute |
| 03:01:57 | saratoga | stupid IEMs |
| 03:02:06 | Llorean | Yeah, that was too loud for me in many cases in the Apple firmware, and that was before I got my in-ear phones. :) |
| 03:02:08 | Llorean | I'm a very quiet person |
| 03:02:17 | saratoga | is yours as loud as retail? |
| 03:02:36 | Llorean | My Sansa? I'm not sure. |
| 03:02:40 | Llorean | Lemme see if I can test easily |
| 03:02:59 | saratoga | well its no big deal |
| 03:03:04 | saratoga | i haven't ordered one yet |
| 03:03:13 | saratoga | so it'll be a bit before i'm too concerned |
| 03:03:42 | Llorean | Well, when Rockbox says 0dB, I think it really is 0dB, so Rockbox gets as loud as you should go |
| 03:03:45 | Llorean | Yeah, the OF does go louder. |
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| 03:03:54 | Llorean | I think similar to the +6 on the iPods. |
| 03:05:21 | Llorean | Rockbox definitely gets a bit quieter than the OF on sansas, at least. |
| 03:07:30 | Llorean | saratoga: Scratch that, I'm bad at estimating. Side by side with the same file, it looks like the Sansa caps in the -10ish range. |
| 03:07:51 | Llorean | I just didn't realize this file was so loud naturally |
| 03:08:35 | Llorean | But then the Sansa's got a lot of work to go. It's ridiculously unresponsive compared to my Nano. |
| 03:14:33 | munroe | It's nearly impossible to do anything while music is playing |
| 03:16:17 | RaRe` | just phoned samsung and their tech dealer, they both told me they cant help me with a firmware update, greedy money grabbers |
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| 03:19:27 | JdGordo|uni | Llorean: do you want to try getting reboot on usb working? |
| 03:19:46 | JdGordo|uni | I tihnk its a very simple change |
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| 03:27:51 | nikosapi | Is there a way to monitor rockbox svn commits (via rss, irc, email, etc)? |
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| 03:29:03 | Llorean | nikosapi: There's an RSS feed (which isn't great, but it works) or a mailing list. |
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| 03:31:30 | nikosapi | Llorean: I can't seem to find the rss feed... Could you please point me to it? |
| 03:32:23 | Llorean | nikosapi: http://rss.gmane.org/gmane.comp.systems.archos.rockbox.cvs |
| 03:33:18 | nikosapi | Thanks!! :-) |
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| 03:54:52 | Alonea | ok, after I did rockboxdev.sh, this is what it reported. Is this abnormal any? it seems different from the last time i did it. http://pastebin.ca/404493 |
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| 03:56:36 | Llorean | Alonea_: Different how? |
| 03:57:12 | Alonea_ | Llorean: ok, sorry, my irc has gone screwy. On the pastebin it says to install a couple things. what do I do about that? |
| 03:57:28 | Llorean | The part where it says to make your PATH include certain things? |
| 03:57:51 | Llorean | That'll depend on your Linux Distro / Shell. Google's your best bet there (not something I'm terribly familiar with) |
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| 03:58:25 | Alonea_ | Llorean: the path stuff I have done. |
| 03:59:05 | Alonea_ | its the install in /usr/local/arm-elf that I dont understand |
| 03:59:16 | Llorean | I think that just means that that's where the install is in. |
| 03:59:28 | safetydan | Alonea, it just means that's where it's installed. |
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| 04:00:57 | Alonea_ | safetydan: ok. |
| 04:02:02 | Alonea_ | curses...it still wont bloody compile. |
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| 04:02:44 | Llorean | Alonea_: arm-elf-gcc −−version reports? |
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| 04:03:40 | Alonea_ | Llorean: arm-elf-gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 |
| 04:03:47 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
| 04:04:26 | Llorean | Alonea_: Which build are you trying that's failing, and how's it failing? |
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| 04:04:48 | Alonea_ | Llorean: i am just trying to do ../tools/configure |
| 04:05:33 | safetydan | Alonea_, is there anything different about your environment? Are you using bash as your shell for example or something else? |
| 04:06:11 | Llorean | And where exactly are you running it from? |
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| 04:07:57 | Alonea_ | safetydan: yeah, I have bash, always have. On Kubuntu |
| 04:09:14 | safetydan | Alonea_, just checking as some distros do funny things with the default shell sometimes |
| 04:09:23 | Alonea_ | safetydan: tis ok. |
| 04:12:08 | Alonea_ | safetydan: whats the normal way you would export a path? maybe the path didn't goto the right files or something... |
| 04:12:55 | safetydan | export PATH=/usr/local/arm-elf/bin:$PATH |
| 04:13:18 | safetydan | either type that at the prompt or add it to your .bashrc |
| 04:13:57 | Alonea_ | safetydan: ok..and..nope. |
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| 04:37:27 | crazyslip | i really messed my ipod up, i need some help |
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| 04:39:44 | Llorean | crazyslip: What'd you do? |
| 04:40:27 | crazyslip | deleted files off the drive |
| 04:41:00 | Llorean | That's very, very vague. |
| 04:41:10 | crazyslip | all the rockbox files |
| 04:41:18 | Llorean | Then re-extract a rockbox.zip to it. |
| 04:41:43 | crazyslip | when i connect it back into the usb is doesn't show up |
| 04:41:57 | Llorean | Just use the dual boot to go into the original firmware. |
| 04:42:09 | crazyslip | how do i do that? |
| 04:42:22 | Llorean | When did you first install Rockbox? |
| 04:42:30 | crazyslip | today |
| 04:42:37 | Llorean | Okay, turn off your iPod. |
| 04:42:47 | Llorean | Then, when you turn it on, immediately turn on, and leave on, the Hold switch |
| 04:45:42 | crazyslip | got it, thanks |
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| 04:50:04 | TCK | is there a new bootloader or something? |
| 04:50:22 | TCK | always thought you had to hold menu on startup for the original firmware |
| 04:57:48 | Llorean | TCK: Since the backdrop on the bootloader turned black, you could also use Hold, which is easier for a lot of people. |
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| 05:16:35 | sid | I installed rockbox on my 5th generation ipod video(30 gig) in January.. is there any changes worth upgrading for? |
| 05:17:46 | sid | I installed the latest trunk in mid january, not the stable version. |
| 05:18:23 | aliask | sid: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 05:18:39 | sid | thanks aliask |
| 05:18:52 | aliask | Add to that a bunch of bugfixes and optimisations. I can't see any reason why you wouldn't want to update. |
| 05:20:07 | aliask | sid: You will also need to update the bootloader if you update the build - however its dead simple nowdays. |
| 05:21:06 | sid | aliask: I'm on GNU/Linux(debian), which guide should I use? |
| 05:23:13 | Llorean | sid: Always the one in the manual... |
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| 05:47:56 | TCK | [04:18] <aliask> sid: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 05:48:12 | TCK | is there a way to get any major changes sent to email? |
| 05:51:15 | aliask | TCK: Not that I know of. Unless the wiki has some kind of notify feature |
| 05:51:15 | safetydan | TCK, the major changes page is updated by hand. So not really. |
| 05:53:46 | billytwowilly | TCK: that's awesome. I didn't know about the major changes page. |
| 05:53:51 | Overand | wait, update to the latest bootloader? yike |
| 05:54:05 | Overand | (on portalplayer/ipod) |
| 05:54:26 | Overand | I installed using a previous version (not as automated) of the bootloader - should i restore to stock firmware with that first? |
| 05:54:27 | billytwowilly | also, rockbox appears to be getting awesome;) Last.fm/audioscrobbler support is awesome |
| 05:54:41 | Llorean | Overand: Not necessary. |
| 05:54:48 | safetydan | "Getting" awesome? It's been awesome for years :) |
| 05:54:50 | Overand | Llorean: neat! |
| 05:55:19 | billytwowilly | heh. You have to keep in mind that the last time I used it with any seriousness was on my archos jukebox 6000 |
| 05:56:33 | billytwowilly | that would be.. 4 + years ago? |
| 05:56:53 | billytwowilly | first or second year university anyway. |
| 05:57:33 | billytwowilly | now I'm watching because my ipod mini is about to give up the ghost and I want to replace it with something that isn't an ipod because I primarily listen to audio books and the bookmarking function in an ipod is infuriating. |
| 05:59:28 | billytwowilly | the only feature that was really nice about the ipod with audiobooks is the faster setting for playing audio faster. |
| 05:59:39 | billytwowilly | I don't believe rockbox has that yet. |
| 06:00 |
| 06:00:09 | Llorean | Rockbox can play them faster, but it does so just by actually playing the file faster, so you have a pitch increase. |
| 06:00:32 | billytwowilly | yah, that's too bad. |
| 06:01:03 | billytwowilly | that was a nice feature of the ipod, but the bookmarking features in rockbox more than make up for that. I can probably reencode the audio book to play faster anyway. |
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| 06:29:14 | Overand | Oh, this new version is pretty rocking, no pun intended. |
| 06:29:32 | Overand | It's been months since I updated, glad to have dual-proc support on the ipod |
| 06:30:18 | Overand | feels like the buffering behavior is different, but that's tough to tell |
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| 06:37:08 | TCK | I'd update if my web was faster than 1kb/s |
| 06:37:17 | TCK | looks like I'll have to wait till tomorrow |
| 06:37:21 | Overand | TCK: that's too bad. |
| 06:37:26 | * | JdGordon just saw something interesting in the sansa lcd driver! |
| 06:37:38 | Overand | I mean, the navigation menu has icons now, maybe it was supposed to before and i had a hosed install, heh |
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| 06:38:24 | TCK | still, that dual-proc might explain why I can't currently go further than the 03-04-07 build without major crashes |
| 06:38:39 | TCK | I've seen the new nav menu |
| 06:38:52 | TCK | I mostly updated for spc support though :) |
| 06:41:37 | Overand | I was running an unofficial build for a while for NSF support |
| 06:41:43 | Alonea_ | guess I will try to get rockbox to compile again tomorrow..there has to be sometime I am missing |
| 06:42:31 | Alonea_ | night |
| 06:42:32 | safetydan | TCK, if it's crashing with newer builds, you need to update your bootloader |
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| 06:42:57 | TCK | indeed |
| 06:43:18 | TCK | wasn't aware of the new bootloader until tonight |
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| 06:52:16 | daniel1234 | would anyone be able to help me with cygwin |
| 06:52:20 | Overand | safetydan: might there be a way to change rockbox so it checks the bootloader version on startup, and if it determine that it's running a too-old one, it won't procee? |
| 06:52:32 | Overand | daniel1234: i can help with cygwin in a very basic fashion, but there may be someone here who's better. |
| 06:52:35 | Overand | what do you need? |
| 06:53:53 | JdGordon | dan_a: ping? |
| 06:54:28 | safetydan | Overand, possibly, but it's relatively rare that a new bootloader is actually required so I don't think it'd be worth the effort. |
| 06:54:38 | daniel1234 | Overand if you could help me that would be great I have it installed but I can do everything up to selecting normal build I get a warning error do you know what I should |
| 06:54:52 | daniel1234 | do after that |
| 06:55:08 | Overand | I'm afraid I don't entirely understand the question, sorry. |
| 06:55:15 | Overand | Are you following a guide for using cygwin to compile rockbox? |
| 06:55:34 | Llorean | Overand: It wasn't supposed to _require_ a new bootloader, just perform better if the new bootloader was present, but it didn't end up working quite right. |
| 06:55:55 | daniel1234 | when I type N after selecting my player I get a warning message if you want I can send the message I get |
| 06:55:57 | Overand | Llorean: ah, well, that's too bad. Oh well! |
| 06:56:09 | Overand | daniel1234: use pastebin if it's more than one line |
| 06:56:16 | Overand | but iI probably can't help you, unfortunately |
| 06:56:32 | Overand | unless it's like 'a suitable compiler could not be found' |
| 06:56:58 | Overand | i've never used the cygwin build scripts, i wasn't even aware such an animal existed -i just happen to be a cygwin user in general |
| 06:57:36 | daniel1234 | ok after I install cygwin and select the packages is there something else I should do |
| 06:59:01 | Overand | Sorry, I can't help. |
| 06:59:26 | daniel1234 | OK then I will try the dev mailing list |
| 06:59:37 | safetydan | daniel1234, try putting the error message in pastebin so we can see it |
| 07:00 |
| 07:00:26 | daniel1234 | do you want me to just paste it in here |
| 07:01:39 | safetydan | only if it's short (i.e. less than two lines) |
| 07:02:05 | safetydan | otherwise, go to http://pastebin.ca and paste it there, then copy the URL they give you here |
| 07:02:45 | daniel1234 | can you send that url again |
| 07:03:20 | safetydan | http://pastebin.ca |
| 07:03:28 | Overand | i think it's time to pass out |
| 07:03:35 | Overand | Good luck, daniel1234 |
| 07:05:56 | daniel1234 | for some reason my screenreader won't read the url is it http://pastebin.c |
| 07:08:05 | safetydan | daniel1234, ah okay, I didn't realise you were using a screenreader. Just paste the warning message here |
| 07:11:18 | daniel1234 | this is the error I get ../tools/configure: line 1471: m68k-elf-gcc: command not found |
| 07:11:18 | daniel1234 | WARNING: The compiler you must use (m68k-elf-gcc) is not in your path! |
| 07:11:18 | daniel1234 | WARNING: this may cause your build to fail since we cannot do the |
| 07:11:18 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK daniel1234 |
| 07:11:18 | daniel1234 | WARNING: checks we want now. |
| 07:11:44 | daniel1234 | this is after I type N to select normal build |
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| 07:13:50 | daniel1234 | does anyone know what my problem is |
| 07:14:57 | JdGordon | Llorean: copying a .fmt file in recovery mode formats the 2gb partition and doesnt touch the booloader right? |
| 07:15:23 | Llorean | JdGordon: Yes, or at least that's what it did for one of our forum users. |
| 07:15:24 | safetydan | daniel1234, to fix that error you need to have the compiler on your path. How did you install Cygwin? Did you use the instructions from here http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CygwinDevelopment |
| 07:16:48 | daniel1234 | I used the instructions on the screen shots page and selected all the packages it said to could I put this in my path some how |
| 07:17:18 | sweatingsocialst | llorean: for VLC can u tell me the settings u changed so u can also canvert the videos ... and if u said to ask VLC support i already did but the support was deader than a corpse |
| 07:17:21 | Llorean | JdGordon: The file there was an empty file named sansa.fmt |
| 07:18:14 | JdGordon | I decided to just use mkefs.vfat :p |
| 07:18:15 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: The file posted there actually works for people, which is why it's posted. All I added was setting mine to 25 fps, for my Nano. |
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| 07:19:14 | JdGordon | Llorean: do you think there is any point putting nvram.bin in the 20mb partition instead of the other part? |
| 07:19:23 | sweatingsocialst | lorean: ok i'll check on thier forums to see wat they got |
| 07:20:22 | Llorean | JdGordon: Not off the top of my head, at least. |
| 07:20:48 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 07:20:48 | * | JdGordon wishes the wps guys would get some nice sansa ones up already :p |
| 07:21:31 | khalsa | Thanks For Rockbox, it makes my day go by so much easier! |
| 07:22:10 | Llorean | JdGordon: I can wait on the WPSes, the Sansa still doesn't really feel particularly usable to me. The UI is ridiculously slow. |
| 07:22:52 | * | JdGordon just got a data abort playing in the tree with no music going! |
| 07:23:49 | JdGordon | in wakeup_thread :( |
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| 07:36:31 | JdGordon | Llorean: do you remember what we agreed on one of the buttons yesterday or the day befpre? |
| 07:39:14 | Llorean | Not really, sorry |
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| 07:57:10 | JdGordon | Llorean: any objection to adding a setting to allow the backlight to always be on in plugins? |
| 07:57:22 | sweatingsocialst | llorean: since i can't use VLC to convrt can i use other programs like xilisoft? and what r the formats that the ipod can read so i can watch them? |
| 07:58:46 | Llorean | JdGordon: i thought plugins already had the ability to override backlight to always on if they wanted it? |
| 07:59:03 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: The PluginMpegplayer describes what the format needs to be. |
| 07:59:13 | JdGordon | they can.. but give the user an option to control it in every plugin |
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| 07:59:25 | * | JdGordon started playing sudoku again and its iritating me |
| 07:59:47 | sweatingsocialst | a while ago somebody told me MLC and mpegplayer its the same thing so i don't ahve the mpegplugin |
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| 08:00:14 | Llorean | JdGordon: Heh. Since we have options for backlight normally, on hold, and when power is in, I don't see any reason "In plugins" shouldn't be there, so long as it doesn't change the backlight behaviour while TSR ones are running. |
| 08:00:35 | JdGordon | forgot about tsr plugins... |
| 08:00:36 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: I have no idea what MLC is. But please, just read that wiki page. |
| 08:01:17 | Llorean | JdGordon: Also, "Properties" might behave funny, though I don't know how noticeable that'd be. |
| 08:01:37 | JdGordon | meh :p |
| 08:01:53 | * | JdGordon checks battry bench |
| 08:02:40 | sweatingsocialst | Llorean: its VLC btw and if u mean http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer wikipage i already tried it for the mplayer it has things i don't understnad at all |
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| 08:02:54 | JdGordon | Llorean: works fine |
| 08:03:11 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: mpegplayer is the plugin, and is completely different from VLC, which is just a program for converting or playing videos on a computer. |
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| 08:04:41 | sweatingsocialst | ok so i got the mpegplayer (is this the plugin)? |
| 08:05:29 | Llorean | "mpegplayer is the plugin" |
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| 08:07:56 | sweatingsocialst | llorean: so ok i got the mplayer downloaded but do i paste it on my ipod root? |
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| 08:09:13 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: You're not supposed to download anything to use mpegplayer... |
| 08:09:31 | Llorean | I have no idea what you even downloaded. |
| 08:10:03 | Llorean | If you actually mean "mplayer", that's a tool for encoding, like VLC. |
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| 08:10:41 | scorche | midkay: bout time |
| 08:10:48 | midkay | oh dear! |
| 08:11:22 | JdGordon | Llorean: ah, we agreed rec could be cancel didnt we? |
| 08:11:42 | sweatingsocialst | ohh so i got it all wrong then .... mplayer is for convrting like VLC but theplugin is different ? any link on how i can get it |
| 08:12:34 | midgey | mpegplayer is included with rockbox, you just "play" a video in the correct format and it loads |
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| 08:13:00 | Llorean | JdGordon: I'm of the opinion that it's a good button for Cancel, yes. |
| 08:13:54 | * | JdGordon wonders how long untill we get an arm-and-not-pp targets |
| 08:14:30 | amiconn | JdGordon: We already have 2 of them... |
| 08:14:35 | Llorean | JdGordon: iFP-7xx and Gigabeat. |
| 08:14:52 | JdGordon | oh :p hmm |
| 08:14:59 | JdGordon | I thought they all were... |
| 08:15:48 | sweatingsocialst | wat format can rockbox play |
| 08:16:10 | midgey | read the SoundCodecs page on the wiki |
| 08:17:14 | Llorean | sweatingsocialst: And if you're asking about video, I've already told you what page to read several times. |
| 08:18:30 | amiconn | JdGordon: I don't like the new setting for backlight in plugins |
| 08:19:01 | amiconn | This has almost nothing to do with the core; a plugin should offer this setting if it's wanted and makes sense |
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| 08:19:36 | amiconn | It would also be more flexible this way, as you could use different settings per plugin |
| 08:19:42 | JdGordon | hmm... only because it uses so much space I tihnk ill revert |
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| 08:21:38 | amiconn | The functions to do this could be put in the plugin lib, so plugins don't need to reinvent the wheel, although it should only be a little code |
| 08:22:34 | JdGordon | ah crap... I overwrote the diff :'( is there a wa to get it from svn without doing a new checkout at the old date? |
| 08:23:34 | B4gder | svn diff -r1 -r12222 > moo |
| 08:23:43 | B4gder | or similar at least |
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| 08:25:23 | JdGordon | cheers :) |
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| 08:36:52 | noNickFound | greetings! |
| 08:37:02 | aliask | Hiya |
| 08:37:14 | noNickFound | ops. got a bad nick :) |
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| 08:38:12 | std|denis | that's better |
| 08:39:29 | std|denis | i got a question 2 devs: am i correctly understand rockbox arch. that all its api are fixed and can't be changed at runtime? |
| 08:39:49 | B4gder | yes |
| 08:40:18 | std|denis | and there's no way to add some loadable service module? |
| 08:40:23 | std|denis | it's a pity :( |
| 08:40:32 | B4gder | ? |
| 08:40:49 | B4gder | in what way is a module an API? |
| 08:41:02 | std|denis | it is all about playing a music from the plugin :) |
| 08:41:15 | B4gder | yes? |
| 08:41:58 | std|denis | i'm under deep influence of miranda's expansibility :) |
| 08:42:11 | JdGordon | std|denis: rockbox's plugin api is quite a bit less powerful than mirandas :p |
| 08:42:16 | B4gder | I don't even know what miranda is |
| 08:42:19 | std|denis | yeah |
| 08:42:25 | std|denis | B4gder: Miranda IM - IM client |
| 08:42:34 | std|denis | GPLed |
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| 08:44:00 | * | B4gder won't go into how he doesn't understand a comparison between a IM client on a host with rockbox on a DAP... |
| 08:44:36 | std|denis | i started to digging rockbox yesterday. i've been hoping before, that it is a bit more flexible inside |
| 08:44:51 | B4gder | more flexible to be able to do what? |
| 08:45:13 | bluebrother | to make coffee! |
| 08:45:18 | bluebrother | *g* |
| 08:45:25 | std|denis | to extend it with additional modules without recompilation of kernel |
| 08:45:36 | aliask | std|denis: That's what plugins are for :) |
| 08:45:55 | bluebrother | it's an embedded device, not a PC ... |
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| 08:46:34 | std|denis | bluebrother: PocketPC is an embedded device too ;) |
| 08:46:44 | Llorean | Not in the same context. |
| 08:46:45 | B4gder | arguable ;-) |
| 08:47:00 | B4gder | and pocketpc is an OS, not a device |
| 08:47:01 | JdGordon | std|denis: plugins are given full control (well almost) of the DAP, you can do anything... but only 1 can be running at any one time |
| 08:47:19 | Llorean | Besides, that sort of "extensibility" doesn't make sense without a reason for it. |
| 08:47:21 | bluebrother | anyway, it's a music player |
| 08:47:33 | * | bluebrother goes voting for "remove doom" once again :) |
| 08:47:47 | JdGordon | hell no! |
| 08:47:53 | Llorean | It doesn't make much sense to look for a solution when you haven't come up with the problem it's supposed to solve yet. :) |
| 08:47:56 | Dyne | Can someone tell me what key translates into the "pitch" menu on the Sansa? I know on my Archos JukeBox FM it was the middle button, but I can't figure it out on my e240 |
| 08:48:01 | scorche | bluebrother: lets keep bubble though =) |
| 08:48:05 | bluebrother | remove doom! remove doom! |
| 08:48:15 | bluebrother | scorche: bubbles is ok ;-) |
| 08:48:29 | bluebrother | but the only game I really like is jewels |
| 08:48:35 | * | GodEater isn't a fan of doom either |
| 08:48:38 | Llorean | Oh, speaking of Jewels. |
| 08:48:49 | Llorean | Could someone try something on their Gigabeat for me to confirm it's not some quirk of mine? |
| 08:48:54 | GodEater | sure |
| 08:49:04 | Dyne | Hey guys, How's it going? |
| 08:49:06 | * | bluebrother thinks doom attracts too much people only because of doom |
| 08:49:13 | Llorean | Start music playing back, then run Invadrox, quit, and run Jewels, save game, and quick. |
| 08:49:18 | * | GodEater agress with bluebrother |
| 08:49:43 | * | B4gder likes the concept of having doom, but has so far never even started it :-) |
| 08:49:43 | std|denis | sure, the great benefit of rockbox is opensource and nightly builds. so if someone did an improovement, noone will wait for several month or years :) |
| 08:50:14 | GodEater | Llorean: how do I save game ? |
| 08:50:21 | aliask | Dyne: Hold select and press up |
| 08:50:42 | Llorean | GodEater: Hold the center of the cross to pop up the menu. |
| 08:50:42 | Dyne | Thanks aliask |
| 08:50:48 | std|denis | i still have no idea how to play an audio file from a plugin.. :( |
| 08:50:52 | aliask | No worries :) |
| 08:51:08 | GodEater | Llorean: okay - what was supposed to happen ? ;) |
| 08:51:30 | Llorean | GodEater: Data abort. |
| 08:51:35 | GodEater | not here |
| 08:51:37 | B4gder | GSoC application #4 has arrived |
| 08:51:42 | Llorean | B4gder: So I saw. |
| 08:51:48 | * | GodEater is still listening to his tunes |
| 08:52:06 | scorche | B4gder: do we need more mentors? |
| 08:52:07 | Llorean | GodEater: Okay, I'll mark it down as a quirk of mine. I haven't tried to reproduce it, but it's happened every time I've accidentally run Invadrox when trying to get to Jewels. |
| 08:52:27 | Dyne | I've had my E240 Data Abort on boot :( |
| 08:52:32 | midgey | Llorean: no problems here either |
| 08:52:46 | Llorean | midgey: Okay, thanks. |
| 08:52:58 | Llorean | There's probably some other factor into it then. |
| 08:53:03 | GodEater | Llorean: I'm on a build from yesterday if that matters |
| 08:53:04 | B4gder | scorche: the more the better, but I think we currently mostly need the mentors to put their attention to the applications and post comments/evals/mentor-offers |
| 08:53:04 | amiconn | Llorean: I would try it on my mini if only invadrox were available for mini |
| 08:53:30 | amiconn | I don't see a reason why invadrox shouldn't be possible on mini |
| 08:53:44 | * | Llorean has evaluated 3 of the 4, commented on 2. |
| 08:53:46 | scorche | B4gder: well, if you do need more, let me know |
| 08:54:03 | Llorean | amiconn: I don't see why not either. Was the coder just not thorough? |
| 08:54:13 | amiconn | probably |
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| 08:54:28 | B4gder | the more volunteering mentors we get, the more appropriate mentor can be appointed to each application |
| 08:54:34 | amiconn | I think somewhat smaller graphics than for the other greyscale targets are needed |
| 08:54:57 | GodEater | B4gder: are the "applications" the ones at the bottom of the wiki page? |
| 08:55:00 | scorche | B4gder: so was that a hint to go and apply? |
| 08:55:06 | * | amiconn definitely won't register with google |
| 08:55:14 | Llorean | GodEater: They're at the actual summer of code page. |
| 08:55:16 | JdGordon | B4gder: did you accept my mentor application? |
| 08:55:17 | GodEater | ah |
| 08:55:32 | * | JdGordon wonders what student applications Llorean is talking about |
| 08:55:32 | B4gder | scorche: I think so :-) |
| 08:55:43 | B4gder | JdGordon: go mentor_home and you'll see... |
| 08:56:14 | JdGordon | where? |
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| 08:57:16 | Llorean | http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html |
| 08:57:51 | * | JdGordon wonders if he missed, or ignored an important email :'( |
| 08:58:39 | Llorean | Be aware when "evaluating" that it's cumulative, not an average. |
| 08:58:56 | Llorean | If four people evaluate one as 2, and three evaluate another as 2, the one with four people evaluating it rates higher. |
| 08:59:27 | B4gder | JdGordon: they don't send emails on that, you're supposed to check |
| 08:59:33 | JdGordon | oh |
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| 08:59:56 | B4gder | and recheck since applications also get added without notice |
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| 09:00:14 | JdGordon | lame! |
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| 09:05:19 | * | petur slaps firefox _hard_ |
| 09:07:02 | JdGordon | how does gsoc work? do all projects which are accepted by the devs get accepted by google? or do they choose which they want to pay for? |
| 09:07:02 | * | scorche hears firefox yell, "Harder!" |
| 09:07:17 | * | petur obeys |
| 09:07:30 | scorche | this is getting dirty... |
| 09:07:33 | ShaunES | Grm. Is there a way to patch rockbox to only go into USB mass storage mode if you hold select, rather than having to hold it when you want it to remain in rockbox? |
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| 09:08:03 | Llorean | ShaunES: Yes, you could write a patch to do that. |
| 09:08:06 | scorche | ShaunES: there is |
| 09:08:16 | scorche | Llorean: isnt there already one in the tracker? |
| 09:08:23 | Llorean | JdGordon: They decide how many they're going to assign to each mentor organization. |
| 09:08:46 | Llorean | scorche: Maybe? It may have been rejected, and exceedingly out of date. |
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| 09:11:44 | lachlan | hey GodEater, do you need any rbutil testing done now? |
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| 09:17:19 | scorche | wow....i was not aware of the amount of money that google provides for the GSoC |
| 09:18:07 | * | petur is just in for the t-shirt :-p |
| 09:18:12 | * | JdGordon also :D |
| 09:18:31 | JdGordon | should have probably asked first... but http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/SummerOfCode#Development ? |
| 09:18:35 | lachlan | how much do they provide? |
| 09:18:36 | scorche | well, i was referring to the 4.5k USD given tot eh student |
| 09:18:40 | GodEater | lachlan: not currently - my dev environment for building a completely static rbutil isn't finished yet |
| 09:19:00 | lachlan | GodEater: ok |
| 09:19:01 | petur | JdGordon: didn't you try Triple Karmeliet recently? How was it? |
| 09:19:21 | JdGordon | not yet... my friends dont like the idea of the price :p |
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| 09:19:47 | * | GodEater guesses petur and JdGordon are talking about beer... |
| 09:19:48 | petur | oh |
| 09:20:00 | petur | *bingo* |
| 09:20:34 | aliask | Caramel beer? |
| 09:20:46 | bascule | Can someone explain to me what 'low-latency' mode actually is? Following a couple of items on the forum recently, it seems to explain a problem I had a while back, but I don't understand the concept... :( |
| 09:21:07 | * | JdGordon back soon |
| 09:21:31 | LinusN | bascule: it means to do the audio dsp processing as late as possible, with low latency |
| 09:21:43 | scorche | wow...4.5k...maybe i should have applied as a student ;) |
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| 09:22:07 | aliask | scorche: Nothing stopping you :) |
| 09:22:28 | GodEater | scorche: yeah - 4.5k back when I was a student would have been awesome |
| 09:22:38 | GodEater | shame google didn't exist then |
| 09:22:39 | LinusN | bascule: so audio setting changes take effect as soon as possible |
| 09:22:55 | bascule | LinusN: thanks. So unrelated to buffering, then? |
| 09:23:06 | LinusN | bascule: not unrelated at all |
| 09:23:35 | LinusN | we have two buffers, the audio buffer with the compressed audio, and the PCM buffer with the decoded audio |
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| 09:23:48 | LinusN | the low latency patch affects the PCM buffer |
| 09:23:57 | t0dk0n | Is brightness implemented into the current build for ipod video 5g? |
| 09:24:03 | bascule | LinusN: OK, so why does it appear to be switchable, rather than always on? or always off? |
| 09:24:34 | LinusN | bascule: the low latency mode affects the cpu usage |
| 09:25:03 | bascule | LinusN Thanks, I think I've got it now :) |
| 09:25:07 | LinusN | oki |
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| 09:26:34 | midkay | t0dk0n: no, it isn't. |
| 09:26:49 | midkay | there's a patch on the tracker for it but it isn't in SVN for some reason. |
| 09:27:14 | t0dk0n | yeah, I'm using an unsupported build... but I was thinking of updating to the current build if it was |
| 09:27:15 | t0dk0n | thanks ;P |
| 09:27:33 | midkay | ah, ok.. no problem. |
| 09:28:23 | t0dk0n | I guess I could always compile the current build with the brightness patch |
| 09:29:12 | t0dk0n | night |
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| 09:31:16 | JdGordon | dan_a: you around? |
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| 09:31:45 | SliMM | hello |
| 09:32:01 | SliMM | do i have the min and max macros defined in rockbox? |
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| 09:35:05 | LinusN | SliMM: yes, in system.h |
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| 09:35:33 | SliMM | and can i use them in a plugin? |
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| 09:36:19 | thewho | I think we should introduce two constants (OFF and ALWAYS) for backlight_timeout. The magic with set_timeout(1) is not very nice. Or, even better, change the API so that it works with real values instead of index (as amiconn proposed). But constants would be a first step towards readability. |
| 09:38:26 | JdGordon | thewho: yes :D |
| 09:40:12 | JdGordon | bluebrother: have you tryed reproducing the wps nothing to resume bug since the commit? |
| 09:40:25 | thewho | JdGordon: can you explain why menu.c depends on root_menu.c? (The opposite direction is OK IMHO.) Was it a deliberate design or did it "just come so?" |
| 09:40:47 | JdGordon | it does? |
| 09:40:58 | JdGordon | oh.. probably the root_menu_ vairable |
| 09:41:11 | JdGordon | that should be in root_menu.h tho... |
| 09:41:14 | * | JdGordon checks |
| 09:42:03 | JdGordon | bbs |
| 09:42:53 | LinusN | SliMM: yes |
| 09:43:01 | thewho | JdGordon: not only the variable but also the special values GO_TO_xxx |
| 09:43:03 | SliMM | thanx |
| 09:43:17 | LinusN | SliMM: they are called MIN() and MAX() |
| 09:43:30 | SliMM | k |
| 09:45:22 | SliMM | do i have gradient functions in the plugin api? |
| 09:46:19 | aliask | Nope |
| 09:46:42 | aliask | But I think there is an implementation in rockpaint |
| 09:47:11 | JdGordon | thewho: yeah, its all needed... the GO_TO_ defines are standard return values for various functions.. |
| 09:47:28 | JdGordon | the variable is needed because the generic menu handler isnt good enough for the root menu.. |
| 09:48:52 | thewho | JdGordon: ok, so that could be made a topic for the SoC. Menu rework. |
| 09:49:29 | std|denis | LinusN: are there disadvantage of replacing of monolite api struct with a several separated ones and the service-manager on top? |
| 09:49:31 | JdGordon | the menu system already needs rework? ;'( |
| 09:49:51 | SliMM | if i have some code, but it isn't a patch, where's the right place to show it? |
| 09:49:55 | JdGordon | std|denis: you mean how miranda does it? it wouldnt work.... |
| 09:50:09 | std|denis | JdGordon: why? |
| 09:50:10 | LinusN | std|denis: what are you talking about? |
| 09:50:40 | std|denis | JdGordon: besides i think about different method. not call-by-string-alias |
| 09:51:01 | LinusN | SliMM: for general review, or for inclusion in rockbox? |
| 09:51:03 | JdGordon | plugins arnt used as "services"... |
| 09:51:07 | B4gder | std|denis: you still haven't explain what you want to achieve |
| 09:51:11 | SliMM | both :) |
| 09:51:12 | B4gder | explained |
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| 09:52:13 | LinusN | SliMM: for discussion, i suggest using for example http://pastebin.ca/ |
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| 09:52:24 | LinusN | SliMM: for inclusion, use the patch tracker |
| 09:52:35 | SliMM | ok |
| 09:52:39 | std|denis | LinusN: currently we have single plugin_api struct. so if we neeed to add some new service functions, we probably shift a bytes inside that struct. so we break a binary compatibility |
| 09:53:03 | LinusN | std|denis: yes? |
| 09:53:12 | JdGordon | function address are used.. and yes, they go at the end so we dont break compatibility... |
| 09:53:23 | JdGordon | not that it really matters.. they are all recompiled on every change anyway |
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| 09:54:19 | LinusN | std|denis: is your goal to make a more stable plugin api, for third-party plugins? |
| 09:55:02 | fourbissime | hi there. i've just installed rockbox. all my filenames are encoded in unicode, so are the tags. the tags are displaying fine, but not when I browse the files. |
| 09:55:13 | std|denis | LinusN: main idea is to make rockbox customizable with 3rd-party loadable modules/plugins |
| 09:55:17 | JdGordon | enable a unicode font fourbissime |
| 09:55:59 | LinusN | std|denis: the rockbox plugins are more like separate applications than plugins |
| 09:56:35 | B4gder | std|denis: feel free to work on such a concept, but be aware that we will accept very little overhead since at least I don't see a very big benefit |
| 09:57:13 | B4gder | it is very easy to recompile with an up-to-date rockbox |
| 09:57:22 | std|denis | i'm not ready to give you an example of a really useful service module |
| 09:57:24 | fourbissime | that is done. well, I guess, for I use "unicatcher" skin and the tags are well displayed. |
| 09:57:49 | JdGordon | you need the unifont tho |
| 09:57:55 | JdGordon | did you extract rockbox-fonts.zip? |
| 09:58:00 | fourbissime | yes |
| 09:58:01 | LinusN | fourbissime: what is your default codepage? |
| 09:58:07 | std|denis | B4gder: sure. they could be compiled statically, but how could i give a plugin new service? for example audio-player interface |
| 09:58:26 | fourbissime | LinusN: utf-8 |
| 09:58:28 | B4gder | give a plugin a new "service" ? |
| 09:58:34 | B4gder | you rebuild the plugin |
| 09:58:37 | markun | fourbissime: very weird |
| 09:58:51 | markun | usually the files would show up fine but not the tags |
| 09:58:53 | JdGordon | std|denis: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 09:58:58 | markun | instead of what you are describing |
| 09:59:08 | fourbissime | I don't have those little "square" characters. I have the "several weird character display" kind of bug |
| 09:59:34 | markun | fourbissime: which OS were you using the copy the files? |
| 09:59:44 | fourbissime | gentoo linux, 100% unicode |
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| 10:00:07 | LinusN | fourbissime: so it's pure unicode and not utf-8 then? |
| 10:00:08 | markun | fourbissime: because I know you can screw it up with some mount option |
| 10:00:30 | fourbissime | well, all my files are supposed to be encoded in utf-8 |
| 10:00:32 | std|denis | JdGordon: B4gder: as i said yesterday, i want to make e-book [audio+text] plugin. so i need some kind audio-player |
| 10:00:51 | fourbissime | I plugged my iriver back to see if the filenames are displaying well, and it is the case. |
| 10:00:51 | LinusN | fourbissime: this is weird, since fat-32 filenames are unicode... |
| 10:00:58 | fourbissime | in my term, everything is fine. |
| 10:01:03 | B4gder | std|denis: so why not write a plugin/viewer and be fine with it? |
| 10:02:06 | std|denis | B4gder: do you advise me to make my own code for loading appropriate codec and do all these analysing stuff by the "hands"? |
| 10:02:12 | B4gder | no |
| 10:02:22 | B4gder | that stuff should be done by the core |
| 10:02:36 | B4gder | you would write a viewer, and use the API to control stuff like audio |
| 10:02:50 | std|denis | B4gder: yep. but i can't see any api for audio playback |
| 10:03:04 | std|denis | i found the code in apps\playback.c |
| 10:03:14 | SliMM | is there a gradient function in the plugin api? |
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| 10:03:28 | JdGordon | std|denis: if a function you need is not there, add it to the api in apps/plugins.* |
| 10:03:31 | B4gder | std|denis: well, then the solution is to add API calls for audio playback |
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| 10:04:08 | scorche | isnt there already? there are plugins such as the WAV viewer, etc |
| 10:04:19 | B4gder | yeah, I thought so too |
| 10:04:42 | LinusN | std|denis: which format is the e-book files you are talking about? |
| 10:04:43 | markun | fourbissime: I see too options with vfat mounting: codepage and iocharset |
| 10:04:45 | scorche | so then the answer would be to "look harder" |
| 10:05:04 | fourbissime | by the way, I didn't use the unicode-aware iRiver firmware. could it be the cause of the problem ? |
| 10:05:14 | LinusN | fourbissime: no |
| 10:05:34 | std|denis | LinusN: it's custom format. text + attributes + mp3 packed together into a single file |
| 10:05:56 | B4gder | and last I heard, mpegplayer also had sound... |
| 10:05:59 | fourbissime | well, got to go. thanks for the input. I'll search again later. bye |
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| 10:06:38 | std|denis | scorche: WAV viewer == wavplay.c ? |
| 10:06:53 | LinusN | std|denis: i see, so the plugin/viewer would have to separate the audio from the text and play it |
| 10:07:15 | std|denis | LinusN: yes |
| 10:07:20 | LinusN | std|denis: looks like you could have a look at how the mpegplayer does it |
| 10:07:27 | markun | LinusN: this last post might solve his problem: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=3871.0 |
| 10:07:36 | std|denis | LinusN: something like karaoke :) |
| 10:07:57 | LinusN | std|denis: yeah :-) |
| 10:08:08 | LinusN | std|denis: is this a common format? |
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| 10:09:34 | bluebrother | JdGordon: it seems to be fixed on the mini. Strangely I still get the issue on the h120, but there might be something strange with the installation. |
| 10:09:51 | bluebrother | My battery is running flat and I don't have the charger with me, I'll recheck this later |
| 10:12:10 | std|denis | LinusN: i found that kind of book on PC. it is a learning book. english texts with translation and audio track by native speaker of English. i like that idea so i want to port the shell application to mobile platforms - rockbox and pocketpc/smartphone |
| 10:12:56 | std|denis | LinusN: i didn't heard about the open formats on that things |
| 10:15:46 | LinusN | sounds like a fun thing though |
| 10:16:50 | std|denis | B4gder: sure, i could write the api manager, but it will break almost all current plugins. so it will take too much time without any really great advantage, except a more clear sourcecode :) |
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| 10:17:21 | LinusN | std|denis: i don't get it, all you do is recompile the plugins |
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| 10:17:35 | B4gder | std|denis: I don't understand your point at all |
| 10:18:23 | LinusN | from what i gather, this is not much different from the mpegplayer plugin |
| 10:19:05 | std|denis | i'll make a sketch to show you my ideas. i'll make a topic on the forum, when it will be ready ;) |
| 10:19:12 | BigBambi | Sansa people, is this possible hardware wise: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9441.15 |
| 10:19:21 | BigBambi | Someone claiming rockbox blew his earphones |
| 10:19:33 | LinusN | std|denis: the question remains: why? |
| 10:19:34 | B4gder | ... over and over and over again |
| 10:19:42 | B4gder | BigBambi: I doubt it |
| 10:19:52 | BigBambi | B4gder: I doubted it to |
| 10:20:03 | B4gder | but he seems convinced |
| 10:20:07 | BigBambi | But he is saying it repeatedly in any thread that it remotly applies to |
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| 10:20:18 | BigBambi | I didn't want to say stop if it was possible |
| 10:20:24 | std|denis | LinusN: why simple recompilation won't help? |
| 10:20:58 | B4gder | BigBambi: I guess it is theoretically possible, but when he's the single person it has happened to, it makes it less likely to actually be rockbox's fault I'd say |
| 10:21:03 | LinusN | std|denis: yes, if you change the api struct (by adding functions), all you need is recompile the plugins |
| 10:21:05 | BigBambi | I agree |
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| 10:21:58 | barrywardell | there is over-current protection built into the sansa to avoid exactly that kind of thing |
| 10:22:48 | BigBambi | OK, on a different topic - gigabeat bootloader. If you turn the unit on with the remote but with the main unit hold switch on, settings are reset. When the check for hold to reset settings is done, is it possible to tell whether it was remote or main unit that was used to power on, and only reset settings if the corresponding hold switch is on, and not the other |
| 10:23:10 | BigBambi | I often have the main unit in my pocket with hold on and turn on with the remote, thereby resetting settings |
| 10:23:32 | BigBambi | barrywardell: So we can tell him he is likely wrong? |
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| 10:25:05 | barrywardell | BigBambi: i think it is unlikely, however the overcurrent protection is kicking in quite a bit so I guess it is theoretically possible |
| 10:25:53 | barrywardell | BigBambi: i think he he probably wrong |
| 10:26:48 | BigBambi | OK - I didn't want to say shut up, it can't be when it *might* be, but he is spreading quite a scare story quite vociferously (sp?) |
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| 10:30:07 | pondlife | Could a fault result in a DC output on some devices, or are they all likely to be protected against that? |
| 10:30:23 | pondlife | i.e. outputting with a DC offset at least |
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| 10:30:56 | BigBambi | markun: around? |
| 10:31:02 | markun | yes |
| 10:31:53 | BigBambi | did you see my question about the gigabeat bootloader? |
| 10:32:44 | markun | BigBambi: the reset combination should be changed |
| 10:32:59 | BigBambi | To holding a different button say? |
| 10:33:05 | markun | yes |
| 10:33:17 | BigBambi | OK, I'll sit tight till then |
| 10:33:32 | BigBambi | It shows the value of "write .cfg"! |
| 10:34:19 | BigBambi | Markun: Would a flyspray task help if I open one? |
| 10:35:40 | markun | BigBambi: yes (and check if there isn't already a patch to fix it) |
| 10:35:48 | BigBambi | OK, will do |
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| 10:37:07 | barrywardell | markun, BigBambi: what about just not resetting if the remote is conected? can we detect if the remote is connected? |
| 10:37:35 | SliMM | can anyone take a look over some code pls? |
| 10:37:40 | markun | why not just change the button combination? |
| 10:37:56 | BigBambi | I don't mind either - I'm just searching flyspray atm |
| 10:38:22 | SliMM | please? |
| 10:38:25 | B4gder | SliMM: many of us are reading code all the time. Are you referrig to anything in particular? ;-) |
| 10:38:31 | barrywardell | markun: I don't know. just that hold is a hard one to do by accident |
| 10:38:46 | markun | barrywardell: not really |
| 10:38:57 | SliMM | yes, some of my code. i don't know why it's not working |
| 10:39:11 | B4gder | then I think you should consider first telling us where it is |
| 10:39:17 | markun | I like to turn on my Gigabeat, turn on hold and put it in my pocket |
| 10:39:50 | BigBambi | I can't find anything existing, so I'll create a bug report on flyspray, and put both these suggestions in it |
| 10:39:58 | barrywardell | markun: true, so what button would you like it changed to? |
| 10:40:51 | markun | barrywardell: A maybe? |
| 10:41:03 | SliMM | http://www.pastebin.ca/404859 |
| 10:41:05 | SliMM | and |
| 10:41:06 | SliMM | http://www.pastebin.ca/404864 |
| 10:41:20 | barrywardell | or a combination of buttons to make it harder to do by accident? |
| 10:41:29 | barrywardell | like A and hold on? |
| 10:41:56 | SliMM | i'll give u a link to a screenshot in a minute |
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| 10:42:30 | B4gder | SliMM: nit #1: don't write code in a .h file |
| 10:42:40 | SliMM | k |
| 10:42:48 | SliMM | but why not? |
| 10:43:21 | B4gder | because C is written in .c files by tradition |
| 10:43:34 | BigBambi | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6876 |
| 10:43:54 | BigBambi | There you go |
| 10:44:39 | BigBambi | barrywardell: On the H1x0, you hold record just after turning on to reset, and I've never done that by mistake in a couple of years of use now, so I think just a simple combination would be fine |
| 10:44:55 | B4gder | ... so its just a matter of doing it like people are used to so that it doesn't give surprises, and header files are meant to be able to be included by several files etc |
| 10:45:08 | barrywardell | ok, in that case I think A would be the best option |
| 10:45:37 | SliMM | i'll change the extension |
| 10:45:43 | BigBambi | Anyway, I've put the task up there for when someone is feeling bored..... |
| 10:46:34 | SliMM | http://stereo3d.adpeach.com/scrshot.png |
| 10:46:38 | SliMM | here it is |
| 10:48:16 | dan_a | JdGordon: I'm around now |
| 10:49:27 | Shaid | I use to always turn my ipod on hold when it was in my pocket or bag. |
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| 10:49:39 | Shaid | and then I would just turn it on blindly when needed it |
| 10:49:48 | Shaid | and I'd usually reset my settings because hold was on. |
| 10:50:10 | Shaid | so I'm against hold for resetting settings too, but from a different target :P |
| 10:50:13 | SliMM | so, why isn't the code working? |
| 10:50:24 | BigBambi | Shaid: That is slightly seperate though - I'm talking about having the gigabeat off with hold on, but resetting in error when turning on from the remote |
| 10:50:26 | B4gder | SliMM: given a quick look, it isn't easy to see what's working or not or what it is supposed to do |
| 10:50:41 | BigBambi | Shaid: Ah, I see what you mean |
| 10:51:14 | SliMM | it is supposed to draw 2 identical squares, but using different methods |
| 10:51:17 | BigBambi | I'm not too bothered, but I overall prefer the record+play combination on my H1x0 to the hold switch system on my gigabeat |
| 10:51:28 | SliMM | the first square is drqwn pixel by pixel |
| 10:51:45 | SliMM | the second one was supposed to be drawn line by line |
| 10:54:06 | JdGordon | dan_a: hey, a while a go i made a quick plugin to dump the lcd reg's before and afte an lcd update... anyway, after your lcd commit yesterday the reg 5 will get the value 6000003e which I hadnt seen before |
| 10:54:16 | JdGordon | dunno if thats usefull at all... but letting you know |
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| 10:55:48 | dan_a | JdGordon: That's... odd. I'm guessing it's because I stop and start the DMA now and maybe one of those bits tells us that something's in progress... or finished. I want documentation! |
| 10:55:53 | LinusN | SliMM: you mean that the second one is so tall? |
| 10:56:15 | SliMM | i mean the second one isn't at all |
| 10:56:29 | SliMM | it should be semi-transparent pink |
| 10:56:33 | JdGordon | dan_a: :) is there any tests that could be done to figure out if that bit does anything? |
| 10:56:52 | SliMM | over the green gradient |
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| 10:57:55 | dan_a | JdGordon: Probably... but not that I can think of before I've had the first coffee of the day |
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| 10:58:30 | JdGordon | hehe ok :) |
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| 10:58:47 | Siltaar | Hello |
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| 11:00:19 | Siltaar | is someone here knowing if emulators are using the total host CPU speed, or a fraction of this speed, corresponding to the emulated device ? |
| 11:00:54 | LinusN | Siltaar: it all depends on the emulator |
| 11:01:03 | B4gder | Siltaar: there's no universal answer to that |
| 11:01:27 | B4gder | it also depends on exactly the level of emulation, and on what level |
| 11:01:36 | B4gder | uhm, oddly put |
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| 11:02:51 | Siltaar | so, is it possible to script some actions in the simulator, in order to make "scientific" measurment of the speed of each emulators ? |
| 11:03:05 | Siltaar | (of the emulator for each target) |
| 11:03:14 | B4gder | are you referring to the rockbox simulators? |
| 11:03:19 | Siltaar | yes |
| 11:03:23 | JdGordon | the sim isnt supposed to be used as an emulator.. its to get the ui working.... |
| 11:03:27 | B4gder | they're simulators, not emulators |
| 11:03:39 | B4gder | and no, they don't match the target speeds at all |
| 11:03:49 | LinusN | SliMM: you forget to set the foreground color in lcd_fillrect_halpha() |
| 11:05:00 | SliMM | u've got a point.. |
| 11:05:32 | SliMM | :P |
| 11:06:37 | Siltaar | B4gder, ok thanks, and for the scripting ? (I would be glad to be able to launch rockboxui with some scripted actions (as launch one particular module and then close everything) in order to make some "time" measurments...) |
| 11:06:54 | SliMM | what do you think about this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaolin_Wu's_line_algorithm |
| 11:06:57 | SliMM | ? |
| 11:06:58 | Siltaar | (for school report purpose...) |
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| 11:07:10 | B4gder | Siltaar: there's no such features today |
| 11:08:39 | B4gder | SliMM: should work with your alpha code, right? |
| 11:09:01 | SliMM | after i make lcd_drawpixel_alpha :P |
| 11:09:11 | B4gder | hehe, yes |
| 11:09:34 | SliMM | but i still have problems.. it doesn't draw that square |
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| 11:09:52 | SliMM | can you see the unifor-filled rectangle in the picture? |
| 11:09:58 | SliMM | uniform* |
| 11:10:43 | Siltaar | B4gder, maybe I could drive it adding function calls somewhere in a the right C src file ? |
| 11:10:58 | SliMM | the green onethat starts from within the second rectangle |
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| 11:11:52 | B4gder | Siltaar: well yes you can modify it by changing the source code... |
| 11:12:12 | B4gder | but I'm not sure I follow exactly what you want |
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| 11:14:27 | linuxstb | barrywardell: How are things with the sansa bootloader and sansapatcher? |
| 11:15:02 | barrywardell | Llorean and JdGordon were doing testing last night |
| 11:15:30 | barrywardell | I think current SVN is ready for testing |
| 11:15:34 | JdGordon | seems to be working fine |
| 11:15:57 | barrywardell | would be nice to include JdGordon's usb stuff too |
| 11:15:59 | JdGordon | the bootloader anyway.. I havnt tested an svn sansapatcher.. |
| 11:16:43 | barrywardell | JdGordon: how about using the old usb_detect() that doesn't try to differentiate between a computer and charger? that doesn't cause problems on the mac and may be more reliable |
| 11:17:01 | JdGordon | which old one? |
| 11:17:33 | barrywardell | linuxstb: there was one reported "bug" with sansapatcher. double clicking on windows when an old rb bl is installed doesn't keep the window open |
| 11:18:26 | barrywardell | JdGordon: the one from r11823 |
| 11:18:26 | JdGordon | barrywardell: I assume you mean removing the "usbstatus2 = (UDC_PORTSC1 & PORTSCX_CURRENT_CONNECT_STATUS) ? true : false;" line? |
| 11:18:50 | barrywardell | JdGordon: it's the dr_controller_run() that is causing problems |
| 11:19:27 | linuxstb | barrywardell: Yes, I read that in the logs. I'll have a look. |
| 11:22:11 | barrywardell | linuxstb: anyway, I think we're just about ready for a first sansapatcher release |
| 11:22:30 | JdGordon | barrywardell: shoudl all this usb code work on the h10 also? |
| 11:23:00 | JdGordon | linuxstb: have you got a sansapatcher for linux compiled? or how d i compile it? |
| 11:23:01 | linuxstb | barrywardell: OK - do you have a bootloader binary? I'll fix that bug, and then build a set of binaries. |
| 11:23:02 | * | amiconn notices the weird alpha blending idea popped up again :/ |
| 11:23:19 | B4gder | alpha blending is fun! |
| 11:23:24 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Just copy the bootloader PP5024.mi4 file into the rbutil/sansapatcher/ directory and type make. |
| 11:23:26 | barrywardell | JdGordon: the h10 of uses mtp usb mode, so no |
| 11:23:31 | amiconn | Forget it, way too cpu intensive for our targets (*perhaps* except gigabeat) |
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| 11:24:03 | B4gder | amiconn: right, but playing movies on 1bit LCD screens is "useful" |
| 11:24:11 | amiconn | linuxstb: Hmm, mpegplayer links against libmad? |
| 11:24:18 | JdGordon | barrywardell: hmm.. using the old usb_Detect didnt work.. |
| 11:24:24 | JdGordon | detection failed |
| 11:24:29 | amiconn | B4gder: That's not cpu intensive. And it's not core stuff |
| 11:24:41 | B4gder | who said alpha blending is core? |
| 11:24:57 | linuxstb | amiconn: Yes. |
| 11:24:59 | jhMikeS | lol...emac emac emac, and it should be core ;) |
| 11:25:04 | B4gder | haha |
| 11:25:33 | amiconn | Hmm, looks like I would have to take a closer look into the mpegplayer source in order to understand how libmad works |
| 11:25:41 | barrywardell | linuxstb: barrywardell.net/assets/files/sansapatcher/PP5022.mi4">http://barrywardell.net/assets/files/sansapatcher/PP5022.mi4 |
| 11:25:57 | JdGordon | linuxstb: quick equest for sansapatcher... can you make it so running with -a and no filename will use the PP5022.mi4 in the pwd ? |
| 11:26:16 | B4gder | having alpha functions will be great for the plugin lib |
| 11:26:23 | B4gder | and allow cooler-looking games etc |
| 11:26:27 | JdGordon | barrywardell: I thought the rockbox. file was giong to be renamed to .mi4? its still .e200 ere? |
| 11:26:35 | JdGordon | here even |
| 11:26:43 | linuxstb | amiconn: I'm not very happy with the quality of the code in the current state, so be gentle on me... |
| 11:27:16 | barrywardell | JdGordon: it is going to be |
| 11:27:24 | JdGordon | oh good :) |
| 11:27:34 | barrywardell | we need a new working bootloader before we can make the change though! |
| 11:27:55 | linuxstb | JdGordon: No, I can't do that - I've never seen a program assume filenames for input like that... |
| 11:28:09 | jhMikeS | rockbox I think does need some stuff for appearance and I think if done right, eye catching things can help useability |
| 11:28:12 | JdGordon | someone has to go first... :D |
| 11:29:34 | * | jhMikeS just doesn't like a gaudy orgy of graphics effects for their own sake |
| 11:29:34 | amiconn | linuxstb: I need to find a way to hack this into video.c ... |
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| 11:35:59 | JdGordon | B4gder: do we know anything about the microsd port? |
| 11:36:59 | dan_a | JdGordon: We know which GPIO pin goes active when you plug in a microsd card, but that's it AFAIK |
| 11:37:20 | JdGordon | ok |
| 11:41:00 | amiconn | dan_a: Since the internal flash uses sd protocol as well, I guess the micro sd slot is just connected to the same bus |
| 11:41:34 | amiconn | So the driver needs to learn card selection, and then multivolume+hotplug shouldn't be a problem |
| 11:42:53 | dan_a | amiconn: That sounds sensible. I guess the first step would be to see if I get multiple responses to an ALL_SEND_CID, then? |
| 11:45:33 | JdGordon | why is the write timeout so much shorter than the read timeout? |
| 11:45:49 | JdGordon | shouldnt it be the other way around? |
| 11:47:16 | dan_a | I can't remember - either a typo, or that is what the standard says it should be |
| 11:48:07 | JdGordon | 5HZ and 0.5HZ? |
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| 11:49:33 | * | JdGordon wonders if the mSD slot is bank 2, for pure simplicity's sake in the code |
| 11:50:06 | JdGordon | seen as the biggest chips atm are 4gb and sansa will put 2 in.. |
| 11:51:35 | JdGordon | $25 for a 1gb mSD card... might pick one up tomorow |
| 11:52:09 | linuxstb | amiconn: It would be nice to be able to use the codecs in plugins, but then there's the problem of IRAM. But for video.c, I assume you won't need IRAM for the video parts. |
| 11:52:35 | amiconn | correct |
| 11:52:57 | linuxstb | Currently the audio API available to plugins is extremely low-level - the plugin provides the "get_more" callback which is called from the DMA/FIQ interrupt. |
| 11:54:02 | linuxstb | Is hwcodec similar, in terms of what plugins can do with mp3 data? |
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| 11:59:12 | toni1 | dan_a: I enabled frequency scaling on the sansa. But the audio codec seems to switch between mono/stereo, any idea? |
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| 12:00:37 | dan_a | toni1: None yet. I've been testing different IIS formats, and I can get better stereo but with clipping, but I've not managed perfect sound yet |
| 12:01:12 | dan_a | Can you run the OF in your emulator yet? Could you see what it sets the IISCONFIG register to? |
| 12:01:59 | toni1 | dan_a: No, the of seems to be dependent on the cop, which is not yet working there |
| 12:03:22 | toni1 | dan_a: I checked the LCD_REG_5, it seems to be set/unset on every lcd scanline (14700/sec) |
| 12:03:36 | toni1 | bit 29 that is |
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| 12:04:12 | toni1 | which makes 66Hz update, do you think it's realistic? |
| 12:04:38 | dan_a | I have no idea, I'm afraid |
| 12:05:21 | toni1 | and another question: does anybody know, wether dma interfers with normal data access, or is it hardware dependent? |
| 12:06:32 | toni1 | If the theory on switching dma on/off with LCD_REG_6 is correct, then I did get no data throughput difference on dma on/off |
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| 12:09:23 | markun | amiconn: I don't think alpha blending is impossible. Did you see this demo of the hotdog engine of ipodlinux? http://yorgle.cis.rit.edu/mirror/hotdog1.mp4 |
| 12:10:05 | markun | SliMM: perhaps also interesting for you: http://www.ipodlinux.org/Hotdog |
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| 12:12:06 | SliMM | markun: interesting, but porting it's quite difficult for me |
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| 12:15:15 | markun | SliMM: I'm not saying you should port it, but perhaps you can get some inspiration from it or just talk to slowcoder if you have some questions |
| 12:15:31 | SliMM | yup |
| 12:15:36 | SliMM | i certanly will |
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| 12:19:32 | linuxstb | Sansa users - latest sansapatcher with Barry's latest bootloader is here - http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/sansapatcher.zip |
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| 12:21:28 | FreshPrince | hi ;) |
| 12:22:27 | JdGordon | linuxstb: works fine here |
| 12:22:35 | JdGordon | so we arnt getting usb detection on release? |
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| 12:25:14 | markun | hi FreshPrince |
| 12:25:32 | FreshPrince | hi markun :) |
| 12:25:39 | linuxstb | JdGordon: My opinion is that we should not try to get everything into the first release - the important thing is to get people using sansapatcher, and once they do the first install that way, upgrading the bootloader will be trivial, even for our most clueless users. |
| 12:29:40 | GodEater | linuxstb: famous last words ;) |
| 12:29:45 | pixelma | B4gder: not a big deal but with the new server (I suppose) the order of the files on http://www.rockbox.org/irc/listlogs.pl is all messed up (if it's not your part you could at least redirect it to the right person easier ;) ) |
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| 12:36:46 | amiconn | markun: I didn't say it's impossible, but it's very likely way too slow to use it for font rendering. Plus the already often mentioned problems regarding font size and format wrt alpha |
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| 12:45:16 | GodEater | so amiconn, what do you have against google ? |
| 12:47:01 | amiconn | GodEater: I use google as a search engine, and it's fine for that. But google already concentrates too many services imho, so I decided to stay away from any goolge services that require registration |
| 12:47:33 | GodEater | you don't think they're up to the job ? |
| 12:49:23 | markun | amiconn: I'm not so sure if we want alpha blending either, but it's fun to play with :) |
| 12:49:37 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Can you test something with sansapatcher? If you install the new bootloader (the one in my zip file) the old way (i.e. copying it to the FAT32 partition and booting into the OF), does sansapatcher still detect it as an old installation? |
| 12:50:12 | * | linuxstb would like to see what alpha-blending/anti-aliased fonts would look like |
| 12:50:55 | * | aliask too |
| 12:52:54 | B4gder | pixelma: I'll give it a poke soonish |
| 12:53:35 | amiconn | GodEater: No, I think they've already collected so much information that they can put them into relations I don't want |
| 12:54:01 | GodEater | amiconn: so you're a tad paranoid ? |
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| 12:54:54 | amiconn | I wouldn't call that paranoid |
| 12:55:11 | GodEater | bad choice of words |
| 12:55:59 | markun | "vorsichtig" perhaps? |
| 12:57:00 | * | GodEater will only worry when the men in dark trench coats from google knock on his door at 4am |
| 12:57:05 | preglow | amiconn: lots of other mp3 players have anti-aliased fonts, so why shouldn't we be able to do it? |
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| 12:57:39 | linuxstb | preglow: With full unicode support, customisable backdrop, multiple fonts etc etc? |
| 12:58:33 | * | GodEater would be keen to know about this amazing mp3 player too |
| 12:59:00 | preglow | linuxstb: pfffft! |
| 12:59:31 | linuxstb | But I would like to see someone implement it before rejecting it... |
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| 13:00:32 | linuxstb | It's obviously a trade-off between performance and quality, so I need to see it in action on real targets. |
| 13:02:22 | amiconn | Do you have a solution for the font format? |
| 13:03:43 | markun | amiconn: I'm still working on the new font code btw |
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| 13:09:03 | JdGordon | linuxstb: whats the old way again? just copy it onto the disk right? |
| 13:09:13 | JdGordon | should I uninstall rb frist? |
| 13:11:29 | markun | does anyone know how to generate a random number between 0 and x (I could use random % (x + 1) but the chances for the outcomes will not be equal, right?) |
| 13:12:02 | markun | maybe it's good enought.. |
| 13:12:19 | B4gder | pixelma: list is now sorted. Would you like the newest on top or at the bottom? |
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| 13:14:07 | pixelma | hmm... don't care that much as DownThemAll could filter it even when unsorted... I believe before it was newest on top though I'm not sure |
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| 13:14:55 | linuxstb | JdGordon: I think it's just copying the PP5022.mi4 file to the root and then starting the OF. But I think for this test, it would be good if you could install the OF first, then install the Rockbox bootloader - so that the special copy of the OF that sansapatcher makes is overwritten. |
| 13:15:00 | B4gder | ok, newest on top it is |
| 13:15:03 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ah crap.. forgot to copy the OF.bin file :( |
| 13:15:16 | linuxstb | Oops... |
| 13:15:25 | JdGordon | recovery mode.. here I come :D |
| 13:16:49 | * | JdGordon gets the wiki page open before trying again :p |
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| 13:18:47 | pixelma | B4gder: thanks :) |
| 13:19:04 | B4gder | it only worked before by pure accident |
| 13:19:14 | pondlife | Does it seem that the ipod Data Aborts (and other lockups?) have been resolved since the COP has been in use? |
| 13:19:21 | B4gder | probably because the files were listed in order of creation or similar |
| 13:19:25 | * | pondlife wants to close Music Playback bugs... |
| 13:20:07 | B4gder | pondlife: it makes sense to ask if they still occur, and close them if they don't or we don't get responses to the question |
| 13:20:13 | pondlife | Will do. |
| 13:22:41 | JdGordon | linuxstb: yes, it instslled with sp fine |
| 13:23:11 | JdGordon | no it didnt... |
| 13:23:17 | JdGordon | cant get into OF |
| 13:23:27 | * | pondlife hugs the "My last search" button... |
| 13:23:31 | JdGordon | and debug messages are goig to fast to read |
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| 13:26:17 | JdGordon | linuxstb: or the PP5022.mi4 file is stuffed.... |
| 13:27:10 | linuxstb | So after installing the bootloader the old way, sansapatcher attempted its own install? |
| 13:27:25 | JdGordon | yeah, had no problems installing it.. but it didnt work |
| 13:27:39 | linuxstb | OK, that's a bug in sansapatcher - it shouldn't allow you to do that. |
| 13:27:47 | JdGordon | trying one last time... |
| 13:27:52 | JdGordon | ok |
| 13:28:09 | JdGordon | its not checking to make sure the OF is in the disk? |
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| 13:29:28 | amiconn | rrrr |
| 13:29:32 | pondlife | ssss |
| 13:29:46 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ok, i have only the of installed and the OF.bin... just install it with sp? or try again the old method? |
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| 13:34:30 | amiconn | rrrrrrrr |
| 13:34:42 | * | pondlife refuses to be silly |
| 13:35:19 | * | amiconn wonders what's up with his provider today |
| 13:36:14 | LinusN | maybe google is DoS:ing them to punish you for your statements earlier? :-) |
| 13:36:24 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Can you now install the new Rockbox bootloader using the old method? After that, run sansapatcher and just see if it gives you the option to install. |
| 13:36:55 | JdGordon | thats what i did before.. and it gave the option, and did the install |
| 13:37:01 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Because your Sansa's firmware partition will contain only the rockbox bootloader and no OF, sansapatcher should be refusing to operate on it. |
| 13:37:05 | JdGordon | well i assume it did the installl... it didnt say it failed |
| 13:37:29 | pondlife | Or maybe Google is just operating that chip they put into your brain to make it appear (to you) that your provider has problems. |
| 13:37:49 | JdGordon | your not wearing your tinfoil hat? |
| 13:37:56 | B4gder | I run rockbox on my chip |
| 13:37:57 | pondlife | Or lead helmet? |
| 13:37:58 | linuxstb | JdGordon: OK, then it's a bug - I'll investigate. Your sansa will probably have two bootloaders installed now... |
| 13:38:03 | LinusN | i have my foil hat on to protect me from that |
| 13:38:27 | JdGordon | linuxstb: you want me to investigae the hidden partition? or too late coz im back on OF only |
| 13:39:44 | linuxstb | JdGordon: No, it's OK, I know what's going on now. |
| 13:39:51 | JdGordon | :) |
| 13:40:08 | JdGordon | ok, ill install rb the old way again to test out your fix... |
| 13:42:00 | JdGordon | damn the OF is slow to boot compared to rb :p |
| 13:43:17 | jhMikeS | preglow: there? |
| 13:44:15 | JdGordon | linuxstb: ok, just had a look at the firmware partition, it has the OF there from before... |
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| 13:47:27 | JdGordon | does the OF use xml in its loader?? |
| 13:47:35 | JdGordon | isnt xml really bad for embedded systems? |
| 13:52:43 | LinusN | not necessarily bad, only really silly :-) |
| 13:53:33 | B4gder | that's what happens when they listen too much to buzzwords from the sales people |
| 13:53:50 | B4gder | enter java and web services next |
| 13:53:59 | LinusN | ajax!!! |
| 13:54:46 | B4gder | i bet the use some pre-existing lib/tool that just happens to use xml |
| 13:54:57 | B4gder | they use |
| 13:55:58 | pondlife | Gecko for Rockbox?? |
| 13:56:54 | LinusN | /kick pondlife |
| 13:56:56 | JdGordon | there is a microsoft link in the OF |
| 13:57:08 | B4gder | that's for the drm stuff I believe |
| 13:57:18 | B4gder | there's cert-related things around it, isn't it? |
| 13:57:45 | JdGordon | yeah |
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| 14:00:49 | JdGordon | linuxstb: if you want me to test something tomorow shoot me an email or ill just read the logs.... |
| 14:00:52 | JdGordon | im going to bed |
| 14:00:53 | JdGordon | cyaz |
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| 14:01:48 | * | linuxstb just lost his tester... |
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| 14:08:30 | dan_a | Is anyone familiar with programming SD stuff? I'm trying to figure out how to talk to multiple cards on one bus, and I'm not sure if what I'm doing is nearly working or completely wrong |
| 14:09:17 | Webgiest | I just have a simple question, In the current build today for the e200 there was no rockbox.e200 file just the .rockbox folder is this OK? |
| 14:10:40 | dan_a | Webgiest: rockbox.e200 has been moved inside the .rockbox folder |
| 14:11:36 | Webgiest | dan_a: not sure but i think your double buffer commit broke mpeg playback not that it really worked 100% to begin with but now it just says "buffering" and you can hear audio. |
| 14:12:06 | dan_a | Webgiest: I'll check that out |
| 14:12:14 | Webgiest | dan_a ok .e200 got moved should install a new bootloader |
| 14:12:30 | Webgiest | or will it find it it's self? |
| 14:12:44 | dan_a | The bootloader looks inside .rockbox already |
| 14:12:53 | Webgiest | ok thanks |
| 14:13:14 | Webgiest | btw great job! |
| 14:13:23 | dan_a | Thank you! |
| 14:18:20 | amiconn | dan_a: I guess that double buffering requires some changes in lcd_yuv_blit() |
| 14:18:33 | amiconn | That one doesn't call lcd_update() |
| 14:18:42 | dan_a | amiconn: Yes, it's writing to the wrong buffer |
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| 14:50:24 | preglow | jhMikeS: am now |
| 14:52:12 | jhMikeS | preglow: hey. I'd like you to just do a quick double check on my crossfeed instruction reordering to make sure I didn't goof something. It looks and sounds ok. |
| 14:56:52 | jhMikeS | oh, and how critical is the delay line length in this? Would 16 vs. 13 samples work? I'm guessing it's supposed to be the delay from one side of your head to the other. |
| 14:57:26 | preglow | eh |
| 14:57:40 | preglow | why do you wonder about the delay length? thinking about just using a mask? |
| 14:58:23 | preglow | that would break future multiple sample rate support |
| 14:58:41 | preglow | and changing from 13 to 16 might very well not be a good idea sound-wise either |
| 14:58:52 | preglow | would most certainly break people's settings |
| 14:59:00 | preglow | i can double check, sure, patch somewhere? |
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| 15:03:21 | jhMikeS | ok, won't worry about the length then. will pastebin or patch if you actually want to hear it. |
| 15:04:51 | jhMikeS | eh? well I'm just thinking this crossfeed should correspond to physical variables if it's to simulate something. |
| 15:05:02 | preglow | i don't use it myself, so wouldn't know if sounds changed :> |
| 15:05:27 | preglow | the 13 sample delay depends on your head size |
| 15:05:47 | jhMikeS | right, so we should have a head size setting? :P |
| 15:05:50 | markun | it's find for my head :) |
| 15:05:53 | markun | fine |
| 15:05:53 | preglow | it's the time difference between sound from one speaking arriving at the ear on the same side and the other side |
| 15:06:19 | jhMikeS | thought so :) |
| 15:06:42 | preglow | ideally, yes, but the guy who designed the algo said one should be able to compensate to some degree with the other params |
| 15:06:54 | markun | great, rockbox just crashed.. |
| 15:07:13 | preglow | problem is, if we're going to have a head size setting, we'd pretty much need a fractional delay to accurately represent the settings |
| 15:07:50 | preglow | which would lead to further colouration of the sound, and also lots more calculation in the innerloop |
| 15:08:19 | jhMikeS | http://www.pastebin.ca/405056 |
| 15:08:58 | jhMikeS | one sample's not very much distance |
| 15:09:48 | jhMikeS | yeah, I love the mask though |
| 15:09:57 | jhMikeS | not the movie |
| 15:09:59 | preglow | not very much distance, no, but at those small delay levels, it's a big difference in sound colouration |
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| 15:11:22 | preglow | a difference of several hundred hz |
| 15:11:35 | preglow | and anyway |
| 15:11:45 | preglow | if you depend on the mask, you can't adjust it at all for other sample rates |
| 15:11:54 | preglow | meaning you have a crossfeed that sounds wildly different at different sample rates |
| 15:11:57 | preglow | not very useful |
| 15:12:19 | preglow | as it is, it's still going to sound somewhat different since we'll have to round the delay time off, but it won't be too bad |
| 15:12:52 | preglow | haha, you've started jumping through hoops to avoid the emac stall? :) |
| 15:13:08 | jhMikeS | of course :) |
| 15:13:19 | jhMikeS | not too many though and freed a register doing it |
| 15:14:01 | jhMikeS | I'm still wigging about the memory requirements of high samplerates at 32bits :o |
| 15:14:07 | preglow | isn' lea.l 8(%a0), %a0 |
| 15:14:17 | preglow | isn't lea.l 8(%a0), %a0 better done as addq.l #8, %a0? |
| 15:14:21 | preglow | or doesn't addq take address regs? |
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| 15:14:45 | jhMikeS | where'd I use lea? |
| 15:14:52 | preglow | forget that |
| 15:14:56 | preglow | i'm reading the old code, hahaha |
| 15:15:00 | jhMikeS | that's gone |
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| 15:15:06 | preglow | i'm a bit tired |
| 15:15:11 | jhMikeS | ah |
| 15:16:21 | preglow | but yes, it looks good to me |
| 15:16:33 | preglow | but like i said, i'm not very awake |
| 15:16:36 | jhMikeS | cool, thanks |
| 15:17:23 | jhMikeS | and yeah, the lea.l 8(%a0), %a0....you're right about that but that's moot now |
| 15:18:21 | jhMikeS | there's plenty of hoops jumped in the whole update and I think that's where it ends |
| 15:19:14 | jhMikeS | I just need dsp_upsample to not have redundant loading and all should be good |
| 15:19:20 | jhMikeS | downsample even |
| 15:23:10 | jhMikeS | I guess freeing the register is also what's needed for variable delays anyway |
| 15:23:35 | preglow | all you need is to load a6 from some place instead of calculating it |
| 15:23:42 | preglow | ahh, no |
| 15:24:00 | preglow | a reg free would of course help, yes |
| 15:25:35 | jhMikeS | I'm not really sure about freeing two which would be better for that |
| 15:26:05 | jhMikeS | actually I could |
| 15:26:25 | preglow | just reloading it from mem wouldn't be a too horrible either |
| 15:26:30 | preglow | stack's in iram after all |
| 15:27:01 | jhMikeS | true, but the movem can just be two moves using d4 twice |
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| 15:29:00 | Webgiest | is dan_a still around? |
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| 15:30:03 | linuxstb | Webgiest: Can anyone else help? |
| 15:30:14 | dan_a | Webgiest: I am for 10 minutes |
| 15:30:55 | Webgiest | if the boot loader looks in the .rockbox folder for rockbox.e200 should i delete the old one from the root directory? |
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| 15:31:28 | B4gder | yes |
| 15:31:29 | linuxstb | Yes |
| 15:31:41 | Webgiest | Thank you all very much |
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| 15:35:00 | std|denis | hmm.. i thought that nested functions aren't allowable in C.. |
| 15:35:17 | GodEater | which begs the question, which firmware file is read first by the bootloader ? |
| 15:35:28 | B4gder | GodEater: the .rockbox one |
| 15:35:45 | * | GodEater is enlightened |
| 15:36:01 | GodEater | a bit anyway |
| 15:36:03 | GodEater | :) |
| 15:36:08 | linuxstb | GodEater: The bootloaders have been doing that for more than a year - to prepare for this day... |
| 15:36:11 | std|denis | test_sampr.c broke that ignorance.. |
| 15:36:36 | GodEater | linuxstb: I think I'd have failed my "Certified Rockbox Engineer" exam in that case :) |
| 15:36:49 | B4gder | no dimploma for you! |
| 15:36:57 | GodEater | curses - back to studying |
| 15:36:57 | markun | linuxstb: was the Gigabeat bootloader fixed? |
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| 15:37:39 | GodEater | markun: fixed in what way ? |
| 15:37:48 | linuxstb | markun: I think someone did that a month or so ago - so it was just the initial bootloader that didn't check both locations. |
| 15:37:56 | markun | ok |
| 15:38:25 | linuxstb | But I guess there are a large number of users still using that bootloader - meaning they are not actually upgrading when upgrading... |
| 15:38:59 | GodEater | very probably |
| 15:39:48 | B4gder | they'll find out soon enough |
| 15:39:53 | B4gder | when the codecs no longer work |
| 15:40:23 | markun | ah yes :) |
| 15:40:28 | jhMikeS | this isn't a news item? :P |
| 15:40:47 | GodEater | yeah, it probably should be |
| 15:40:51 | B4gder | no, we believe in mind reading |
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| 15:40:56 | GodEater | hehe |
| 15:41:05 | jhMikeS | I prefer that |
| 15:41:21 | linuxstb | Checking the logs for bootloader/gigabeat.c, it was roolku on the 3rd March who changed the bootloader to look in .rockbox first. |
| 15:41:47 | GodEater | what changed between then and the 12th then ? |
| 15:41:49 | * | jhMikeS still had one that didn't and had to recover |
| 15:42:13 | linuxstb | GodEater: Nothing afaics. I guess no-one released a binary until then. |
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| 15:42:25 | GodEater | wow - we're so lazy :) |
| 15:42:33 | linuxstb | Too busy playing Doom... |
| 15:42:40 | GodEater | of course - silly me |
| 15:42:42 | B4gder | the sticker in my forehead says "lazy" |
| 15:42:52 | GodEater | "in" your forehead ? |
| 15:43:03 | B4gder | in on, whatever :-) |
| 15:43:06 | GodEater | hehe |
| 15:43:21 | GodEater | I wondered if it was on the inside so you could read it when you were asleep or something |
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| 15:55:47 | * | linuxstb completes the google mentor application form |
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| 15:57:42 | markun | preglow: how about you? |
| 15:58:23 | preglow | yeah, why not |
| 15:58:51 | jac0b | has there been any headway on the low volume of the sansa? |
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| 16:00:14 | preglow | and now about the t-shirt size! |
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| 16:03:41 | * | preglow wishes the mentorship came with a crate of hoegaarden |
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| 16:05:13 | preglow | there |
| 16:05:22 | preglow | now all that's left is for bagder to refuse my application :> |
| 16:05:37 | toffe82 | in rockbox utilities, you cannot update the bootloader for the gigabeat F because the fwimg01.orig already exist. You can only install it on a new gigabeat with no rockbox |
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| 16:05:50 | toffe82 | it is a problem if the bootloader changes after |
| 16:06:00 | linuxstb | I assume all email get sent to my google mail account? There doesn't seem to be a box to enter email addresses... |
| 16:06:51 | B4gder | they don't seem to send many mails, but yes they will send them to the gmail account |
| 16:06:53 | toffe82 | all the other options are ok |
| 16:06:58 | B4gder | but there's a forward setting |
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| 16:08:10 | linuxstb | B4gder: Thanks, forwarding enabled... |
| 16:08:19 | B4gder | control-q by mistake can be fatal... |
| 16:08:33 | B4gder | preglow: accepted! |
| 16:08:35 | linuxstb | "fatal" is an overstatement... |
| 16:08:38 | preglow | kerw00t |
| 16:08:43 | linuxstb | B4gder: What about me? |
| 16:08:46 | preglow | i'll add myself, then |
| 16:08:51 | pondlife | preglow: kerw00t? |
| 16:08:54 | TheSphinX^afk | jhMikeS my problem has gone |
| 16:08:55 | B4gder | not appeared yet |
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| 16:09:10 | linuxstb | Hmm... I registered before preglow (I think) |
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| 16:09:25 | B4gder | a the famous norwegian fast lane |
| 16:09:27 | linuxstb | Ah, it would help if I ticked a project... |
| 16:09:35 | GodEater | hehe |
| 16:09:55 | * | GodEater was looking forward to seeing linuxstb mentoring on some obscure open source project he'd never heard of before |
| 16:09:57 | * | pondlife thought, for a second, that bagder had refused preglow's application |
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| 16:10:43 | preglow | looks good, thus far |
| 16:10:53 | * | preglow hopes fordsp related stuff |
| 16:11:50 | linuxstb | OK, I've now actually applied to Rockbox... |
| 16:11:54 | jhMikeS | TheSphinX^afk: was your settings having the LS cutoff set to 0 |
| 16:12:07 | B4gder | and now you are accepted |
| 16:12:51 | * | jhMikeS preglow just know preglow is gonna make chief menu code mentor :D |
| 16:14:00 | hcs | I've been asked to give a presentation on rockbox for a student group at my school, guess I should mention the GSoC thing? |
| 16:15:36 | linuxstb | When is the presentation? Can you recruit some potential students? |
| 16:15:50 | hcs | two weeks from now, maybe |
| 16:16:06 | B4gder | passed the dead line for sure |
| 16:16:10 | hcs | bah |
| 16:16:37 | B4gder | so you can tell them what they missed ;-) |
| 16:16:57 | Nico_P | I should start writing an application |
| 16:17:07 | pondlife | Maybe they could "help" another student who did apply in time ;) |
| 16:17:20 | B4gder | Nico_P: go go go ;-) |
| 16:17:39 | Nico_P | B4gder: :) |
| 16:17:42 | pondlife | Nico_P: I see you have playback in your sights... get in there! |
| 16:19:34 | preglow | jhMikeS: heh |
| 16:19:38 | B4gder | Nico_P: there's even an existing application for album art! |
| 16:20:17 | Nico_P | B4gder: seriously ? I thought it was "too easy"... |
| 16:20:30 | pondlife | Well buffer on metadata and viewports have to exist first, maybe.. |
| 16:20:38 | B4gder | an existing application doesn't mean it will be accepted by google of course |
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| 16:20:38 | pondlife | Ah, metadata on buffer even. |
| 16:20:57 | B4gder | or by us |
| 16:21:04 | Nico_P | ok |
| 16:21:26 | B4gder | I've stated that I assume his work will include at least MoB |
| 16:21:43 | Nico_P | didn't amiconn say he intended to implement viewports before the SoC ? |
| 16:21:44 | B4gder | which makes it a bit bigger |
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| 16:25:37 | preglow | hmm |
| 16:25:38 | jhMikeS | I'm thinking about it have no clue what to do except get everyone drunk or something :P |
| 16:26:45 | linuxstb | I don't see why viewports are a pre-requisite for album-art though - they just make album-art WPSs nicer. |
| 16:27:18 | Nico_P | linuxstb: I agree with that... I was only mentioning them because they are in the ideas list |
| 16:27:19 | linuxstb | But viewports would seem to be a prerequisite for any rewrite of the theming aspects of Rockbox. |
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| 16:29:44 | * | Nico_P is afraid to submit an ambitious project, for fear of being whipped by an abusing mentor |
| 16:30:12 | hcs | proposal: rewrite rockbox from scratch |
| 16:30:56 | Nico_P | hcs: that's almost how the playback engine rewrite sounds to me |
| 16:31:05 | hcs | true |
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| 16:34:48 | lavid | bootloaders are rebuilt every time the code changes in svn, right? |
| 16:34:56 | * | jhMikeS wonders what's up with the secrecy of the viewport project :\ odd |
| 16:35:28 | hcs | lavid: where do you find the prebuilt bootloaders? |
| 16:35:29 | Nico_P | jhMikeS: it's just that amiconn has written nothing about the details |
| 16:35:33 | linuxstb | lavid: They're rebuilt, but the binaries are not made available automatically. |
| 16:35:39 | Nico_P | it's vaporware :) |
| 16:35:48 | jhMikeS | Nico_P: he won't answer questions about it either |
| 16:36:02 | linuxstb | lavid: We only recommend people use the released versions of the bootloaders - links to them are in the install section in the manual. |
| 16:36:04 | markun | To apply to do a GSoC project for ffmpeg you first need to prove you are up to it: http://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php?title=Summer_Of_Code_2007#Qualification_tasks |
| 16:36:07 | jhMikeS | except that it would be easier to just implement than document/discuss etc |
| 16:37:04 | jhMikeS | ...or, it's a bluf to keep anyone else from doing cause he doesn't want it in the core :) |
| 16:37:05 | lavid | linuxstb: yeah, that's what i figured. if i want to completely ignore those recommendations, do i need to compile it myself or is the autocompiled bootloader somewhere i can grab? |
| 16:37:11 | lavid | :-D |
| 16:37:41 | hcs | linuxstb: I was looking for "latest bootloader" to see if the freezing on ipods still happens, but I guess I'll have to build it myself |
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| 16:38:36 | amiconn | jhMikeS: I *do* want viewports because they will make many things easier |
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| 16:39:22 | B4gder | lavid: compile it yourself, the build system doesn't gather the bootloaders |
| 16:39:26 | linuxstb | lavid: They're built and then discarded - they are just built so we can check that commits don't break the compilation. |
| 16:39:55 | lavid | B4gder, linuxstb: thanks. will do |
| 16:40:18 | linuxstb | hcs: "latest bootloader" is the last released version - embedded in ipodpatcher or available from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/ipod/ |
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| 16:43:25 | Nico_P | amiconn: do you think viewports should be in the GSoC ideas list ? |
| 16:43:28 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I guess you want the project...I'd just personally really like to see it done since drawing many things would improve too |
| 16:44:10 | hcs | linuxstb: ok |
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| 16:46:19 | Nico_P | markun: the ffmpeg guys seem to be very demanging |
| 16:46:26 | Nico_P | or demanding |
| 16:46:45 | linuxstb | They are - even more so than we (Rockbox devs) are I think. |
| 16:46:58 | linuxstb | i.e. commits are more stringently moderated and reviewed. |
| 16:47:07 | B4gder | I don't think we are very demanding at all |
| 16:47:30 | B4gder | in comparison with many other projects |
| 16:47:39 | markun | Nico_P: they had some problems with applicants last year |
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| 16:48:08 | Nico_P | apparently yes, but maybe they're going to have trouble finding some this year, don't you think ? |
| 16:48:53 | markun | linuxstb: I really like reading the ffmpeg mailinglist an see how every patch is followed by a list of simplifications and improvements |
| 16:49:15 | markun | mostly by Michael Niedermayer |
| 16:49:33 | linuxstb | Yes, that's a nice thing. |
| 16:49:39 | Nico_P | i'd love it if someone were there to improve my patches :) |
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| 16:49:52 | markun | like this: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2007-March/025599.html |
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| 16:50:08 | linuxstb | But it needs people in the project who are happy to just spend their time improving other people's work, rather than doing their own development. |
| 16:50:21 | LinusN | i'd love to have more time to put on rockbox hacking... |
| 16:51:05 | markun | LinusN: maybe you can work on the bootloader-in-flash for your new Gigabeat :) |
| 16:51:14 | markun | congratulations btw |
| 16:51:18 | linuxstb | markun: Leave LinusN's to-do list alone... |
| 16:51:26 | markun | do you like it so far? |
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| 16:52:17 | jhMikeS | amiconn: I'd also like to know what to expect about it to know what I can plan to do or not with it. |
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| 16:53:41 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Well, viewports will basically function as unbuffered windows. The lcd driver will handle clipping as it does now for the whole lcd |
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| 16:54:31 | jhMikeS | ok...so arbitrary areas? multiple overlapping ones at once? |
| 16:54:51 | Nico_P | amiconn: so do you think they should be in the GSoC ideas list ? |
| 16:55:01 | amiconn | The scroll thread will "clone" sub-viewports for each scrolling line, this way storing all sorts of attributes (fg, bg, font...) in order to keep theem constant for the scroling line |
| 16:55:32 | amiconn | jhMikeS: They could overlap, but the result of drawing into overlapping viewports will be undefined |
| 16:55:34 | jhMikeS | so popup displays will be doable from that I take it? |
| 16:55:56 | jhMikeS | hmmm |
| 16:55:57 | amiconn | Yes, but the caller will be responsible for redrawing the "parent" viewport |
| 16:56:34 | amiconn | Viewports will work without explicit init/deinit as long as no scrolling text is involved |
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| 16:57:15 | preglow | Bagder: i actually think we could easily be a bit more demanding |
| 16:57:24 | preglow | but that needs someone to have time to demand more :> |
| 16:57:26 | amiconn | Viewports which spawned scrolling sub-viewports will have to call an explicit deinit function, which wil tell the scroll thread to destroy the sub-vieports |
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| 16:58:22 | amiconn | There will be a default viewport which covers the whole display |
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| 16:59:37 | jhMikeS | I had something in mind that occured to me today that should allow arbirary overlapping complex regions...no undefined operations and no parent painting. |
| 16:59:56 | amiconn | But before all this I want to unify scroll code, which in turn requires finishing my charcell driver rework first |
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| 17:00:11 | Nico_P | Bagder: speaking of being demanding... are you very demanding for student applications ? :) |
| 17:00:24 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Forget back buffers... we don't have and don't want dynamic memory |
| 17:00:35 | jhMikeS | don't need em |
| 17:00:45 | amiconn | ?? |
| 17:00:53 | jhMikeS | just a rectangle band with each rectange having a z-index |
| 17:01:16 | * | amiconn doesn't understand |
| 17:01:17 | jhMikeS | and just one for the whole screen |
| 17:01:31 | markun | I didn't know rockbox ran on a DIY DAP: http://www.diva-portal.org/diva/getDocument?urn_nbn_se_liu_diva-7114-1__fulltext.pdf |
| 17:02:38 | jhMikeS | the screen would be divided into rectangle strips, which would be divided when a viewport is shown and each of those rectangles has a z-index. if the viewport's z-index is say, >= the band index, it draws...if not it's clipped out |
| 17:03:07 | amiconn | jhMikeS: In order to make the driver redraw the parent, you always need a back buffer. |
| 17:03:49 | linuxstb | markun: I remember someone coming here a while ago who was working on a DIY DAP (Coldfire-based with a Wolfson codec IIRC) - probably the same people. |
| 17:04:05 | markun | linuxstb: yes, it's the same |
| 17:04:12 | jhMikeS | I think I can get away without one...but I did just cook it up in the last hour |
| 17:04:34 | amiconn | jhMikeS: You're talking about a "background" viewport not overdrawing a "foreground" one? |
| 17:04:45 | jhMikeS | right |
| 17:05:07 | jhMikeS | and no overdraw as long as their rectangles |
| 17:05:48 | jhMikeS | though a blit with a rectangle cut out of the center would be four blits for instance |
| 17:06:14 | amiconn | That would be rather complex and slow, as both the number of viewports isn't limited and the size is defined in pixels |
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| 17:07:41 | amiconn | So the drawing code would have to check against all other active viewports |
| 17:07:57 | jhMikeS | probably not |
| 17:08:52 | jhMikeS | or many just find and efficient seach method...I suppose there would be limit on the number but high enough to be ridiculous |
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| 17:11:03 | amiconn | My kiss (imho) solution means that the drawing code doesn't even know how many viewports are there |
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| 17:11:54 | jhMikeS | This would require being given a list of update rectangle that make it up and it just fills those |
| 17:12:19 | jhMikeS | most of the time not many |
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| 17:18:19 | jhMikeS | mmmm...just a thought anyway...all the dark corners aren't discovered yet |
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| 17:48:07 | JavaMan22 | when i use the ui sim do i have to do make? |
| 17:48:19 | JavaMan22 | or is make install enough |
| 17:49:29 | nls | you have to do make |
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| 17:49:46 | nls | make install just copies the files to the archos dir |
| 17:49:51 | JavaMan22 | oh |
| 17:50:06 | JavaMan22 | what if i already did make in rockbox/build? |
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| 17:52:16 | nls | if that is your sim build directory then make install, if it isn't you have to make in the sim build dir first |
| 17:52:37 | JavaMan22 | so the build dir and the uisim build dir can be the same? |
| 17:53:05 | nls | JavaMan22: idk, but would not recomend that but you can ofcourse call the sim dir whatever you want |
| 17:53:26 | JavaMan22 | ok |
| 17:53:49 | nls | on second thought, they can't be the same, the Makefiles would overwrite each other |
| 17:53:51 | GodEater | JavaMan22: there's nothing stopping you using the same build dir for both - but you'd need to run make clean between each process |
| 17:54:07 | GodEater | nls: on second though nls is right! |
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| 18:29:38 | pondlife | Hmm, who's the expert on Flyspray's mailing config? |
| 18:30:57 | pondlife | I don't know if it's a problem or not, but our e-mail addresses are all being included on the "sourceforge" newsgroup - the To: list for each message... |
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| 18:32:04 | pondlife | Given that Outhouse Express can pick them up, I assume they're not mangled at all :( |
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| 18:32:55 | pondlife | Perhaps the mail out could be done in 2 parts, one for the ML/NG and one for the real subscribers? |
| 18:34:40 | Yallii | hey guys, anyone familiar with the vlc-transcode bat file? |
| 18:37:36 | * | pondlife watches the tumbleweed blow through |
| 18:38:04 | Yallii | watch! |
| 18:38:05 | Yallii | there it goes |
| 18:38:06 | Yallii | ;) |
| 18:38:18 | Yallii | I'll just 'shoot' then |
| 18:38:43 | Yallii | it's not quite clear where to add the line to adjust the framerate |
| 18:38:48 | Yallii | within the commandline |
| 18:39:30 | Yallii | "#transcode{...,<add it here>}:std{...}" |
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| 18:43:55 | Yallii | I'm going to watch some paint dry or grass grow :$ |
| 18:44:02 | Yallii | bound to be more exciting that his |
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| 18:54:50 | Slasheri | dan_a, jhMikeS, would you want to try a new COP patch? |
| 18:55:12 | dan_a | Slasheri: I'd love to |
| 18:55:41 | Slasheri | dan_a: great, just a moment and i put it up |
| 18:56:11 | Slasheri | dan_a: it should work quite well now, however recording is broken |
| 18:57:10 | dan_a | Slasheri: I'm sure that can be fixed :) |
| 18:57:22 | Slasheri | indeed, i hope so :) |
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| 18:58:38 | barrywardell | does anyone know why the SVN gigabeat bootloader isn't working? |
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| 19:05:31 | Slasheri | dan_a: http://ihme.org/~miipekk/rockbox/cop_slash3.patch |
| 19:06:08 | Slasheri | dan_a: that patch still has some unnecessary and unrelated debugging stuff but is much cleaner than the previous one and might actually even work :) |
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| 19:07:04 | Slasheri | dan_a: if you are able to find & fix any issues with that patch, it would be great :) |
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| 19:12:16 | dan_a | Slasheri: I'm getting compile errors making it for the Sansa - I'll see if I can fix them |
| 19:12:33 | Slasheri | dan_a: ah, i haven't tested it on every target yet |
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| 19:12:40 | Slasheri | dan_a: you had sana and no ipod? |
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| 19:13:10 | dan_a | Slasheri: I'm working on the Sansa at the moment, so it was easier to test with that |
| 19:13:17 | Slasheri | dan_a: ok, nice :) |
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| 19:24:31 | dan_a | Slasheri: That is rather effective |
| 19:29:27 | Slasheri | dan_a: you got it running? |
| 19:29:44 | dan_a | On the Sansa, yes |
| 19:29:54 | dan_a | Just trying it on the 4G |
| 19:30:17 | Slasheri | great :) |
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| 19:35:50 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: Well, I can't test on COP but I can check for problems otherwise |
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| 19:42:30 | linuxstb | Slasheri: I'm just trying your patch on my ipod Photo, and get an error - undefined reference to __backlight_init() - so I just added a dummy function in target/arm/ipod/backlight-4g_color.c |
| 19:46:17 | dan_a | Slasheri: My 4G isn't happy - I think it's giving some kind of error, but I can't see. I don't know if that is because I had to move the framebuffer out of IRAM, though |
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| 19:47:54 | Slasheri | linuxstb: oh, just remove those |
| 19:48:15 | Slasheri | linuxstb: i just created the patch quickly and didn't bother to remove that test code |
| 19:48:37 | linuxstb | OK, but it's freezing on the opening Rockbox splash screen for me... |
| 19:49:14 | Slasheri | hmm :/ did you try rebooting? |
| 19:49:27 | linuxstb | Although I do get the "cleared" splash if I turn the hold switch on, so it's getting that far. |
| 19:49:45 | linuxstb | What do you mean? You _have_ to reboot to test new firmwares... |
| 19:50:02 | linuxstb | And yes, I've tested a few times, and it always freezes. |
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| 19:50:14 | * | preglow tests on nano |
| 19:50:22 | Slasheri | nope, but sometimes it did freeze on 5G also at startup and after reboot it worked |
| 19:50:30 | Slasheri | i don't know yet what caused that |
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| 19:52:27 | * | jhMikeS H120 seems to be locked now |
| 19:52:54 | * | linuxstb passes jhMikeS the Rockbox paperclip |
| 19:53:15 | * | jhMikeS takes the paperclip and sees the of pop up :P |
| 19:53:38 | preglow | can't make it play anything |
| 19:53:45 | preglow | and it did just reboot two times in a row |
| 19:53:46 | jhMikeS | I didn't have a backlight at boot time |
| 19:54:04 | preglow | and my backlight is dimmer than usual :> |
| 19:54:07 | Slasheri | preglow: ok, then it seems there are still issues left =) |
| 19:54:13 | dan_a | I get as far as linuxstb |
| 19:54:22 | jhMikeS | that's cause it was off already...freezes after showing the splash |
| 19:54:26 | Slasheri | on 5G it's pretty usable now |
| 19:54:29 | preglow | backlight never turns off :> |
| 19:54:42 | linuxstb | I'm surprised it's working on the 5g, but not the Nano. |
| 19:54:44 | jhMikeS | then it's a hard freeze |
| 19:54:45 | preglow | ahahaha |
| 19:54:48 | preglow | and the most likely bug ever: |
| 19:54:55 | jhMikeS | ?? |
| 19:54:58 | preglow | if the headphone jack is inserted while booting, it reboots at once |
| 19:55:15 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 19:55:57 | * | jhMikeS is wondering what's different in single core...it looks pretty much the same. |
| 19:56:28 | JavaMan22 | i found a typo in debug os stacks |
| 19:56:29 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: ah, h120 locked up? damn, i should have tried that at least.. fixing |
| 19:56:36 | JavaMan22 | it should be data not ata right? |
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| 19:56:51 | linuxstb | JavaMan22: ATA is the disk interface. |
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| 19:57:12 | JavaMan22 | oo |
| 19:57:16 | JavaMan22 | heheh |
| 19:57:22 | jhMikeS | lock_cores is just empty on single core? |
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| 19:57:30 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: it should be |
| 19:57:49 | jhMikeS | looks that way |
| 19:58:44 | jhMikeS | I'm wondering if it's the backlight code...something interrupt related...but really I've no idea atm. |
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| 20:02:03 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: so why is sp->active needed now instead of just checking for NULL? |
| 20:02:06 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: weird, h140 works fine for me :) |
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| 20:02:29 | jhMikeS | hmmm |
| 20:02:37 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: that sender struct needs to be statically allocated from noncached ram |
| 20:02:46 | Slasheri | not from the stack |
| 20:03:13 | Slasheri | so it's no longer dual-pointer but single-pointer type |
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| 20:04:16 | jhMikeS | makes sense on dual...otherwise I did it to not have another status struct. I'm wondering if the best of both worlds could be had and keep it stacked on single. |
| 20:04:30 | jhMikeS | s/status/static/ |
| 20:04:47 | Slasheri | hmm |
| 20:05:59 | jhMikeS | I'm thinking since it's lying around now, perhaps it should just be there anyway |
| 20:06:27 | jhMikeS | It's not like it's required for a queue and really isn't very large |
| 20:06:48 | Slasheri | indeed, and no iram is used for single core targets |
| 20:07:06 | Slasheri | it also made code a bit simpler :) |
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| 20:07:52 | jhMikeS | I don't know why but coldfire liked it that way better |
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| 20:07:59 | jhMikeS | size wise anyway |
| 20:08:08 | jhMikeS | just a few bytes though |
| 20:09:50 | jhMikeS | though I'm wondering why curr_sender just can't be checked for NULL...a dual core issue? |
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| 20:11:59 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: hmm, probably it can.. you might know better :) |
| 20:12:46 | jhMikeS | yeah, before it just used NULL to tell if a thread waited. When the scheduler wakes it in the list it makes in NULL again. |
| 20:13:39 | Slasheri | ok, feel free to fix that |
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| 20:14:55 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: would sp->active be no longer necessary after that? |
| 20:16:57 | jhMikeS | No, shouldn't be |
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| 20:18:25 | jhMikeS | thought the ** was there so queue_release_sender acted on the data structure not it's parameter |
| 20:19:31 | jhMikeS | just doing ->curr_sender = NULL would accomplish the same though |
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| 20:22:24 | jhMikeS | having them stacked or static shouldn't technically need any change to that |
| 20:28:58 | * | jhMikeS will check a build without his dsp changes added |
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| 20:30:08 | preglow | anything fancy going on? |
| 20:30:12 | thewho | In main_menu.c much code is 'commented out' with #if 0. What's the purpose of this? Why isn't the code just deleted? |
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| 20:30:44 | jhMikeS | preglow: well...dsp_downsample should get fancier |
| 20:30:45 | thewho | There are also many .h files included that are probably not needed there. |
| 20:31:59 | thewho | Or is this the rest of the menu rework (introducing new menu API, main menu) and things will be cleared? But I suspect JgGordon has changed focus. |
| 20:32:11 | jhMikeS | I can split it into two parts: one with 1 < delta < 2, and delta >= 2 |
| 20:32:31 | preglow | to get rid of one load per iter? |
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| 20:33:05 | Slasheri | preglow: so you couldn't get that cop patch running at all? it would be nice if someone could find out what is wrong :) |
| 20:33:33 | jhMikeS | >= 2 will always load two samples, 1 < < 2 might do one or the other |
| 20:34:42 | preglow | Slasheri: it ran, but often rebooted at start, had a dimmer backlight than usual, and just didn't want to play music |
| 20:34:52 | preglow | Slasheri: i'm stuck coding for other people right now :/ |
| 20:35:03 | Slasheri | :/ |
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| 20:35:07 | preglow | jhMikeS: i'd rather just spend the time designing a better resampler :) |
| 20:35:08 | Slasheri | well, that dimmer backlight was normal |
| 20:35:16 | jhMikeS | preglow: you do that? do you get paid? |
| 20:35:46 | jhMikeS | preglow: I think there might be a need for high and low quality resampling actually. not a problem to support either. |
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| 20:37:05 | preglow | jhMikeS: do get paid, yes |
| 20:38:10 | * | jhMikeS was just wondering if someone was lurking around pm-ing preglow and asking him to write code...happened to me...could happen to you too! :D I didn't do no coding though. |
| 20:38:20 | preglow | ahaha |
| 20:38:24 | preglow | not in this case, no |
| 20:38:33 | preglow | this is just me doing some paid code and want to be done with it |
| 20:38:48 | jhMikeS | getting money spoils the fun, I know :P |
| 20:39:29 | jhMikeS | what sort of thing? |
| 20:40:38 | preglow | right now some synthesis stuff, as a matter of fact |
| 20:41:18 | jhMikeS | ah...sounds interesting...what sort? |
| 20:41:21 | preglow | granular |
| 20:41:33 | preglow | just debugging right now, and it doesn't crash here, so i have to guess... |
| 20:45:23 | Slasheri | hmm, in what does one involve in if one becomes a mentor for GSoC (puts name under mentors in rockbox wiki and signs up at google)? |
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| 20:46:27 | Slasheri | just considering that myself too :) |
| 20:46:37 | jhMikeS | hmmm...clean build still locks the 120...will try without a voice file |
| 20:47:18 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: oh! there is a bug in playback.c. |
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| 20:47:44 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: voice codec thread should be on COP, and recent changes in svn removed that from the code |
| 20:48:03 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: so try to fix that one IF_COP(, CPU to .. COP |
| 20:48:29 | Slasheri | ups, never mind.. h120 is still single core =) |
| 20:48:31 | jhMikeS | did I remove it? I tried not to change that :P |
| 20:48:45 | jhMikeS | but right, shouldn't matter for this |
| 20:48:48 | Slasheri | nope, but i did when doing svn update |
| 20:50:03 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: well, you just moved the init to different place and i missed that init then :) |
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| 20:54:31 | preglow | Slasheri: you just get a say on what projects should be allowed, and get assigned to one (or more?) to help see it through |
| 20:55:00 | preglow | if it fits your area of expertise, of coruse |
| 20:55:18 | preglow | thus far it doesn't look like anyone are too keen on doing anything dsp |
| 20:56:11 | jhMikeS | curr_sender on the queue object wasn't nulled |
| 20:58:14 | Slasheri | preglow: ok, does mentors get anything from google or do they just need to put more work to it for free? |
| 20:59:01 | Slasheri | because i am already quite busy with other works it would be nice to know what that keeps inside :) |
| 20:59:20 | linuxstb | I think mentors get a T-shirt :) |
| 20:59:29 | Slasheri | hehe |
| 20:59:42 | linuxstb | So you have the honour of advertising google... |
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| 21:00:06 | Slasheri | ok, probably i don't put my name to there then :) too much work already |
| 21:00:13 | jhulst | Official google mentors get $500 I believe |
| 21:01:11 | preglow | doesn't that go to the org, though? |
| 21:01:15 | preglow | to rockbox, that is |
| 21:01:38 | linuxstb | That's what I assumed |
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| 21:03:00 | jhulst | I may have misread it |
| 21:03:22 | chinaski | hey guys |
| 21:03:35 | preglow | well, i could always use $500, but i'm pretty certain the org gets it |
| 21:03:49 | jhulst | Yeah, I just checked, the org gets it |
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| 21:04:06 | chinaski | I would be interested in porting the wma codec |
| 21:04:12 | preglow | chinaski: well hello, then |
| 21:04:25 | chinaski | at least try... |
| 21:04:52 | linuxstb | chinaski: Do you know ffmpeg at all? |
| 21:04:58 | chinaski | I'd like to know what I should know to do it |
| 21:05:28 | chinaski | I had alook to the ffmpeg code |
| 21:05:55 | chinaski | I saw the patch on flyspray |
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| 21:06:08 | preglow | people attempting to port that should have at least some dsp experience |
| 21:06:19 | linuxstb | There are two separate tasks: 1) Port the ffmpeg wma decoder to fixed-point; 2) Extract the wma decoder from ffmpeg and incorporate it in Rockbox - meaning you'll need to either extract the asf container parser from ffmpeg, look around for another one, or write one from scratch. |
| 21:06:27 | preglow | god, i wish i was still a student... |
| 21:06:32 | chinaski | well I havesome good signal processing background |
| 21:06:40 | chinaski | theory I mean |
| 21:07:18 | chinaski | but never being coding about that |
| 21:07:36 | linuxstb | Do you know C, or a similar language? |
| 21:07:46 | chinaski | yeah I know C |
| 21:07:57 | chinaski | I've been studying asm too |
| 21:08:02 | chinaski | some time ago |
| 21:08:08 | chinaski | I'm pretty good in C |
| 21:08:18 | chinaski | I'm a computer science student |
| 21:08:56 | chinaski | would the port be all about float to fixed point conversion? |
| 21:09:27 | chinaski | or asm optmisation will be needed? |
| 21:09:29 | linuxstb | That's part of it - the rest is incorporating the codec into Rockbox. ffmpeg and Rockbox and quite different. |
| 21:09:50 | chinaski | yeah I see |
| 21:09:56 | preglow | fixed point conversion will definitely need to be done first |
| 21:10:03 | preglow | then integrating into rockbox |
| 21:10:06 | linuxstb | And yes, optimisation can never hurt, but IMO that could be an optional extra at the end. |
| 21:10:08 | preglow | then optimising |
| 21:10:16 | preglow | in that order |
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| 21:12:20 | chinaski | ok thanks |
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| 21:19:50 | jhMikeS | queue_reply should should do q->send->curr_sender = NULL |
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| 21:21:53 | jhMikeS | Slasheri: did you find anything causing the lockup maybe? |
| 21:22:10 | Nico_P | amiconn: how do you feel about my tokenizer patch ? |
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| 21:25:08 | Slasheri | jhMikeS: nope, it's working fine on my h140 |
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| 21:29:13 | jhMikeS | hrm... |
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| 21:43:53 | jhMikeS | well, I did a version with queue_send changes only and it locks |
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| 21:46:35 | pixelma | Nico_P: I just rolo'ed in a version with your tokenizer patch (compiled as of yesterday) on my Ondio... then tried to resume my playlist > first it was stuck on "Loading" > after a while I got a "I09: CPUAdrEr at 09016B64" |
| 21:47:14 | Nico_P | pixelma: what wps were you using ? |
| 21:47:19 | pixelma | my own |
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| 21:48:05 | jhMikeS | rrr...I'll just check a clean one |
| 21:48:05 | Nico_P | could you send it to me ? |
| 21:48:07 | pixelma | I'll try default or another one but I doubt that it'll be any different |
| 21:48:28 | Nico_P | pixelma: it could be a crash in the parser |
| 21:49:14 | Nico_P | was this on the ondio fm ? |
| 21:49:21 | pixelma | yes |
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| 21:50:09 | jhMikeS | clean one works so the problem is in the queue_send stuff |
| 21:50:26 | webguest18 | hi |
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| 21:50:39 | DAGr8 | there |
| 21:50:53 | DAGr8 | if I install this on my ipod will it erase my mp3 ? |
| 21:51:23 | DAGr8 | I used xplay to transfer them to my ipod , if that s relevant .. |
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| 21:51:37 | obo | Is it a winpod or a macpod? |
| 21:52:02 | DAGr8 | uh ? |
| 21:52:07 | DAGr8 | well im using windows |
| 21:52:21 | obo | okay, so it'll be fat32 and not hfs - you won't loose your MP3s |
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| 21:52:34 | obo | but take a look at the database feature so you can find them again |
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| 21:52:51 | DAGr8 | how about the interface of teh ipod willit look the same ? |
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| 21:52:56 | DAGr8 | I dont want gf to be lost |
| 21:52:59 | DAGr8 | :P |
| 21:53:38 | linuxstb | Yes, Rockbox is completely different to Apple's firmware. |
| 21:53:39 | pixelma | Nico_P: hmm seems as if it's really related to the wps I'm using... interestingly I tried another that was nearly the same - that worked but when trying the first one it crashes again |
| 21:54:14 | Nico_P | pixelma: could you send me the WPS file ? |
| 21:54:26 | Nico_P | that's exactly why I asked for testing :) |
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| 21:54:38 | DAGr8 | so I simply download the 2.5 windows *.exe and install ? |
| 21:55:01 | DAGr8 | ok then any screenshots of the way it ll look ? |
| 21:55:06 | linuxstb | DAGr8: No, you read the manual and follow the install instructions there. |
| 21:55:44 | DAGr8 | no to wich one ? |
| 21:55:52 | midgey | DAGr8: 2.5 was for Archos, not iPods. The manual explains the install process and has plenty of images |
| 21:55:53 | jhMikeS | in queue_send, sp->retval is no longer valid once the irqs have been reenabled |
| 21:56:08 | DAGr8 | ok |
| 21:56:20 | midgey | http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 21:57:10 | pixelma | Nico_P: of course, one moment ... the difference to the "nearly the same" is that it only uses a backdrop and instead of icons for play "status", repeat mode, shuffle mode, virtual led - it uses text |
| 21:57:38 | DAGr8 | ok got the proper manual . |
| 21:57:56 | DAGr8 | it ll tell me wich installer to use ? |
| 21:58:24 | DAGr8 | I ll read its just i am more of arial and error kinda guy . |
| 21:58:32 | DAGr8 | trial * |
| 21:59:02 | nls | DAGr8: it has all the instructions for installing you should need |
| 21:59:23 | DAGr8 | thx , great support in here |
| 21:59:42 | DAGr8 | bbl , ( hopefully not heheh) |
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| 22:00:15 | Llorean | Man. "I'm more a trial and error kinda guy" says to me "I like to break my hardware, and hope that it has a recovery mode." |
| 22:01:45 | bluebrother | JdGordon: when you read logs, FS #6863 isn't fixed at all :( |
| 22:02:09 | nls | Llorean: luckily he didn't have a sansa ;-) |
| 22:02:38 | bluebrother | there are a couple of contraints for the bug to trigger and it looks like I didn't try these this morning as I discovered it only as of now |
| 22:03:17 | bluebrother | but that issue is really annoying ... just think of blind users who want to use the quick keys even more often |
| 22:04:01 | pixelma | it's related to the quick screen? |
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| 22:14:20 | jhMikeS | rrrr...I think the return structure will have to go into the thread_entry for this to be right |
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| 22:29:06 | bluebrother | pixelma: don't know −− what's the quickscreen issue exactly? |
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| 22:30:12 | pixelma | bluebrother: that's how I read your statement... don't have a quickscreen on my Ondio... |
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| 22:30:55 | Icone | how can i view more than 10 minutes of Mpeg movie ? :S |
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| 22:31:26 | Icone | because i put a complette movie on my Toshiba, and it stop after 10 minutes ( aproximative ) |
| 22:31:47 | Llorean | Icone: Split the movie into multiple files, implement rebuffering within the plugin, or wait until someone else implements rebuffering and submits a patch. |
| 22:31:48 | linuxstb | Icone: Read this page http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 22:31:49 | bluebrother | no, the "quick keys" −− like play to go to wps etc |
| 22:32:02 | bluebrother | no idea how to call it better |
| 22:32:13 | Llorean | bluebrother: shortcut keys? |
| 22:33:14 | Icone | Llorean, split 1h53m in then minutes movie ? are u crazy xD :P |
| 22:33:20 | bluebrother | sounds good :) |
| 22:33:28 | bluebrother | at least it's related to using them |
| 22:33:37 | bluebrother | and it's really a problem. |
| 22:33:49 | * | bluebrother is really annoyed by this |
| 22:33:52 | Llorean | Icone: You asked how you can watch it. I gave you your options. |
| 22:34:04 | Icone | no thats okay :P thx ^^ |
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| 22:34:25 | bluebrother | I'm quite surprised there weren't complaints in the forums |
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| 22:39:32 | pixelma | bluebrother: is there a recipe in your fs entry? Because I hadn't seen this yet - but then I almost always go to the fil browser first... |
| 22:39:37 | pixelma | *file |
| 22:39:59 | bluebrother | it's like I described (or tried ;-) |
| 22:40:13 | bluebrother | play something, then press the menu button. Go back to the wps using the Play button |
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| 22:40:25 | bluebrother | then press stop / wait for the playlist to end. |
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| 22:41:00 | bluebrother | the thing that made me think it's fixed is that it doesn't occur when you go back using the "now playing" entry |
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| 22:48:10 | bluebrother | hmm. Why do this struct root_items functions use a void pointer as argument? |
| 22:48:20 | bluebrother | can't see any need for that :o |
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| 23:31:12 | robin0800 | can any say hello? |
| 23:31:21 | toffe82 | hello :) |
| 23:31:24 | bluebrother | hello? |
| 23:31:33 | bluebrother | toffe82: you forgot the question mark ;-) |
| 23:31:49 | toffe82 | hello? ;) |
| 23:31:57 | robin0800 | good its working |
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| 23:32:08 | toffe82 | good its working |
| 23:32:11 | bluebrother | ok, now that we said hello we can go back to work :D |
| 23:32:28 | robin0800 | that is hydrairc |
| 23:32:55 | bluebrother | doesn't look different here. |
| 23:33:05 | bluebrother | it's still irssi on my end :) |
| 23:33:23 | toffe82 | chatzilla on my end :) |
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| 23:34:53 | toffe82 | robin0800 : what bring you here ? |
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| 23:37:54 | robin0800 | oh I like seeing what you people are chatting about that's all |
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| 23:45:38 | oKtosiTe | What's USBOTG? |
| 23:46:09 | Llorean | USB on the go |
| 23:46:29 | preglow | usbomg |
| 23:46:36 | Llorean | Basically, Players being able to read USB mass storage devices like thumb drives |
| 23:46:41 | bluebrother | it's a way to make a usb connection without a dedicated host (i.e. PC) |
| 23:47:24 | bluebrother | preglow: ;-) |
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| 23:48:12 | oKtosiTe | Ahh, the "USB host feature" I hope to see in rockbox some day. |
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| 23:49:06 | oKtosiTe | I own an iAUDIO X5. |
| 23:49:07 | bluebrother | how does Rockbox handle Firewire atm? |
| 23:49:34 | acathla | I own a Sansa e200, and it rocks ;) |
| 23:49:47 | Llorean | bluebrother: We don't. It just charges from it, and ignores it, I believe. |
| 23:50:15 | bluebrother | ok. I guess there is no dedicated firewire chip in the ipods, isn't it? |
| 23:50:25 | DataGhost | not anymore |
| 23:50:29 | DataGhost | it used to be there, afaik |
| 23:50:36 | bluebrother | a dedicated chip? |
| 23:50:54 | bluebrother | my mini has a cable that splits into usb and fw |
| 23:50:55 | DataGhost | yeah I remember something like that... and they omitted it in the newer iPods |
| 23:51:04 | DataGhost | good thing FW charging is still possible though :P |
| 23:51:20 | bluebrother | even on the newer ones? Nice |
| 23:51:24 | Llorean | bluebrother: I believe it was just another function of the PP hardware in certain revisions of it. |
| 23:52:12 | bluebrother | hmm. I hoped for a dedicated chip somewhere ... |
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| 23:52:46 | Llorean | Dedicated how? |
| 23:53:21 | DataGhost | he probably means 'separate package' |
| 23:53:39 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 23:54:02 | bluebrother | oh, the mini 1G has a TSB41AB PHY chip :) |
| 23:54:20 | bluebrother | but no information about the 2G on ipl |
| 23:54:35 | DataGhost | what information are you hoping for then |
| 23:55:22 | bluebrother | I was wondering how hard it would be to add firewire detection |
| 23:55:35 | DataGhost | oh wait |
| 23:55:46 | DataGhost | i'm not reading well |
| 23:55:51 | DataGhost | or do you mean nano 2G? or just 2G? |
| 23:55:55 | DataGhost | oh wait mini, lol. |
| 23:56:09 | bluebrother | and firewire can be quite a beast. If that is handled by a TI chip it might get lots easier |
| 23:56:32 | * | bluebrother worked with firewire during an internship some years ago |
| 23:56:40 | amiconn | Mini 2G supports firewire |
| 23:56:42 | DataGhost | hm |
| 23:56:53 | DataGhost | looking at that wikipage I see that there isn't even a shuffle 256MB |
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| 23:57:05 | DataGhost | someone claims to have a 'sunny iPod 256MB' and wants to run iPL on it :P |
| 23:57:25 | Shaid | hurrah for cheap chinese knockoffs! |
| 23:57:32 | DataGhost | :P |
| 23:57:50 | DataGhost | whatever google told me looked like some cheap-ass rebrand (like the U2 iPods) |
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| 23:58:03 | DataGhost | but I failed to notice that it was a bit round instead of squarish |
| 23:58:15 | bluebrother | the U2 ipods weren't apples? |
| 23:58:21 | DataGhost | well they are |
| 23:58:27 | DataGhost | but I don't like U2 |
| 23:58:27 | DataGhost | :P |
| 23:58:35 | bluebrother | ah. Was already wondering ... |
| 23:58:49 | DataGhost | so I actually meant 'special edition thingy' |
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