| 00:00:05 | Moos | http://build.rockbox.org/ select the icon of your player (5G) |
| 00:00:49 | Moos | http://build.rockbox.org/dist/build-ipodvideo/rockbox.zip |
| 00:00:59 | Moos | here is the link |
| 00:01:01 | Ham | thanks |
| 00:01:24 | Moos | np |
| 00:01:34 | Ham | so |
| 00:01:40 | Moos | manual is pretty usufull too ;) |
| 00:01:56 | Moos | s/pretty/very |
| 00:02:05 | Ham | if i install it, could it ever screw up my iPod? |
| 00:02:16 | Ham | or is it 100% guaranteed? |
| 00:02:25 | Moos | just folow well the instructons |
| 00:02:33 | Moos | instructions |
| 00:02:34 | Ham | k |
| 00:02:56 | dberg918 | hey, I have a question about compiling the current SVN build for the H10...I'm getting an error in what appears to be a file called rockbox.elf |
| 00:03:19 | dberg918 | is this still because of commits 12926 and 12928? |
| 00:03:35 | Moos | maybe, do you use any patches? |
| 00:03:46 | dberg918 | yeah, album art and scroll margins |
| 00:04:18 | Ham | okay |
| 00:04:19 | Ham | i got it |
| 00:04:22 | Ham | how do i install |
| 00:04:28 | dberg918 | scroll margins was recently synced |
| 00:04:46 | Moos | dberg918: then I canot know :), that's not officially suported, no patches used here ;) |
| 00:05:28 | Moos | Ham: folow instructions on the manual http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-ipodvideo/rockbox-build.html |
| 00:05:53 | dberg918 | I see...I think the current SVN is causing random freezes on PortalPlayer builds now, regardless of patches |
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| 00:06:33 | Moos | dberg918: sorry I'm not a pp player user, maybe try clean svn |
| 00:08:16 | dberg918 | I suppose it's worth a try, I think someone tried to fix the freezes yesterday |
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| 00:08:54 | Moos | yep, the one that unvolontary created it |
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| 00:14:43 | dberg918 | yeah, the current SVN is still having some issues...video's not working too well, and all of a sudden I can't stop music playback |
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| 00:15:47 | Moos | dberg918: just be patient, and the bug will be spoted and fixed by Slasheri, just use build before the bug was introduced |
| 00:16:14 | dberg918 | actually, I retract the last comment |
| 00:16:48 | dberg918 | the backlight was turning off during video playback |
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| 00:26:44 | Soap | was scroll margins recently synced? |
| 00:27:32 | Soap | Has anyone but me tested my attempt at syncing the scroll margins patch? |
| 00:27:40 | Ham | i installed |
| 00:27:41 | Ham | but |
| 00:27:47 | Ham | the Doom game doesn't work! |
| 00:27:55 | Ham | it says Missing WAD File |
| 00:28:12 | linuxstb | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginDoom |
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| 00:34:58 | dberg918 | Soap: I was able to patch successfully in cygwin, but I'm getting compiling errors at the moment because of a recent attempt to improve the COP on PortalPlayer targets |
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| 00:51:37 | guest | im having trouble installing |
| 00:51:40 | guest | need help |
| 00:51:57 | linuxstb | What are you installing on? |
| 00:52:03 | guest | f40 |
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| 00:52:17 | guest | gigabeat |
| 00:52:36 | markun | guest: nice player :) |
| 00:52:39 | linuxstb | Are you using Windows? |
| 00:52:42 | guest | yes |
| 00:52:50 | guest | i am using windows XP |
| 00:52:56 | linuxstb | What's the problem? |
| 00:53:05 | midgey | markun: did you see my menu commit message? |
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| 00:53:25 | guest | i checked the installing guide |
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| 00:53:31 | guest | did all i had to do replaced the files |
| 00:53:40 | guest | i boot up and its stil gigabeats real thing that comes up |
| 00:53:55 | midgey | did you turn the battery switch to off and back to on? |
| 00:54:01 | guest | no |
| 00:54:02 | guest | lol |
| 00:54:24 | guest | ah its working :P |
| 00:54:30 | linuxstb | How does that work? Why do you need to turn the battery switch off? |
| 00:54:41 | guest | i dono it just works |
| 00:54:49 | guest | and is there a way to get a nice looking layout for it |
| 00:55:09 | | Quit roolku () |
| 00:55:12 | midgey | make sure you have the font pack installed, then look at themes |
| 00:55:26 | guest | and where are the themes? |
| 00:56:04 | midgey | look at WPSGallery on the wiki or rockbox-themes.org |
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| 00:56:33 | guest | an d tell me does rockbox make my player play videos? |
| 00:56:54 | midgey | yes |
| 00:57:05 | midgey | PluginMpegplayer on the wiki |
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| 00:57:33 | guest | nice |
| 00:57:37 | toffe82 | guest : you can use rbutils to load everything http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
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| 00:58:02 | toffe82 | I don't know why nobody offer this option ? |
| 00:58:25 | * | midgey loves rbutil |
| 00:58:27 | markun | midgey: ah, so you still don't know the cause of the problem? |
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| 00:58:57 | guest | what does that do?? |
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| 00:59:16 | midgey | markun: no, it may hint at an issue with the lcd driver. On target, one line is drawn (incorrectly) and the player looks up |
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| 00:59:26 | guest | i have it up and running :P |
| 00:59:44 | | Part robin0800 |
| 00:59:53 | midgey | in the sim, it refreshes as a rectangle that expands from the center |
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| 01:00:20 | midgey | on target, i refreshes one line in the center of the screen, all the way across |
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| 01:01:13 | guest | any one have mario bros?? :P |
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| 01:02:03 | midgey | guest: we dont provide links to roms in here |
| 01:02:08 | guest | alright |
| 01:02:12 | guest | but how do i use if i have |
| 01:02:14 | toffe82 | guest : with rbutils, you don't have to download from different places, it is an interface with all the option for downloading rockbox, it is easier |
| 01:02:14 | guest | legaly |
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| 01:02:34 | markun | guest: just click on the rom and it will play |
| 01:02:39 | guest | will it install rockbox again? |
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| 01:02:54 | markun | guest: did you check the PluginMpegplayer wiki page? |
| 01:03:13 | robin0800 | test |
| 01:03:38 | guest | im setting up a theme first |
| 01:03:43 | guest | then ill get to it ;) |
| 01:03:52 | guest | what do i do once the files for my theme are in? |
| 01:04:47 | XavierGr | robin0800: fo your tests I advise to join #test :) |
| 01:05:21 | SuperDSombrero | I put some NSF files on my ipod, but rockbox only plays the first track from the file. Is there a way to get to the other tracks? |
| 01:05:42 | midgey | any opposition to me changing mpegplayer volume to left and right on gigabeat? |
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| 01:06:07 | midgey | SuperDSombrero: hold fast-forward like you were seeking |
| 01:06:11 | XavierGr | SuperDSombrero: tap forward once and the track index should change |
| 01:06:24 | XavierGr | (or was it hold forward?) |
| 01:06:32 | midgey | its hold :P |
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| 01:06:57 | guest | how do i set up the theme |
| 01:07:00 | guest | i added the files |
| 01:07:02 | guest | then what? |
| 01:07:20 | SuperDSombrero | oh, thanks |
| 01:07:30 | midgey | guest: menu>settings>browse themes |
| 01:07:52 | midgey | then click on the theme you want to change to |
| 01:07:53 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 01:08:46 | linuxstb | midgey: No, go ahead and change mpegplayer |
| 01:10:02 | guest | lol |
| 01:10:11 | guest | and how do i get to my music files? |
| 01:10:42 | midgey | menu>files and then browse around like file view |
| 01:10:44 | markun | guest: did you transfer them with either gigabeat room or wmp? |
| 01:11:05 | guest | GBR |
| 01:11:18 | markun | guest: you can't play those with rockbox |
| 01:11:32 | guest | so i just delete em in my directort |
| 01:11:35 | XavierGr | amiconn: nice work on greek for the player |
| 01:11:37 | * | midgey forgot about SAT encryption |
| 01:11:39 | markun | you have to copy the original files |
| 01:12:03 | XavierGr | amiconn: can't find something wrong right now, except the unstressed capital letters |
| 01:12:13 | midgey | linuxstb: do you use vlc to convert videos on mac? |
| 01:12:44 | linuxstb | No. I think I used ffmpegX once, but I normally use Linux - mencoder or mpeg2enc (from mjpegtools) |
| 01:13:06 | midgey | ok |
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| 01:14:05 | guest | alright now for the videos where do i go? |
| 01:14:18 | midgey | markun: also my gigabeat sometimes changes the background color when the screen is cleared. sometimes it changes to the foreground color or the complement to the foreground color. |
| 01:14:33 | midgey | is this normal or is my gigabeat possessed? |
| 01:14:44 | linuxstb | guest: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 01:14:55 | midgey | guest: http://mikachu.rockbox.org/ has some test videos |
| 01:15:05 | linuxstb | guest: You don't need to download the plugin - it's already installed with Rockbox. That page just tells you how to use it. |
| 01:15:06 | markun | midgey: it's a known bug |
| 01:15:12 | midgey | use the page linuxstb linked to learn how to convert your own |
| 01:15:22 | markun | midgey: it depends on the background colour of the last used plugin.. |
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| 01:15:46 | midgey | markun: glad to hear, at least my gigabeat seems to be in working order then |
| 01:16:16 | midgey | sounds like you diagnosed the problem better than i did :) |
| 01:16:42 | guest | works like a charm |
| 01:16:51 | guest | now someone tell me WHAT i do to get video |
| 01:16:54 | guest | downlaod anything? |
| 01:17:39 | linuxstb | guest: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
| 01:17:40 | linuxstb | guest: You don't need to download the plugin - it's already installed with Rockbox. That page just tells you how to use it. |
| 01:17:46 | toffe82 | guest : just encode your favorite movie |
| 01:17:54 | guest | kool :P |
| 01:17:56 | guest | i love this |
| 01:18:05 | guest | im glad i landed on a youtube video with this |
| 01:18:06 | guest | :P |
| 01:18:48 | Llorean | ffmpeg crashes when I try to get it to encode h264. =/ (I was playing with what else WinFF could make easier for me) |
| 01:18:49 | markun | guest: for a start you can download the 'elefants dream' movie from the' extra' download section to see the video player in action |
| 01:20:17 | linuxstb | markun: What do you think about screen rotation on the gigabeat? Do you want it as an option? |
| 01:20:47 | guest | how do i convert to the right format? |
| 01:20:52 | markun | linuxstb: in general or in the mpegplayer? |
| 01:21:01 | markun | guest: it's all in the wiki page |
| 01:21:16 | linuxstb | markun: In general. |
| 01:21:28 | markun | linuxstb: could be nice |
| 01:21:44 | Llorean | I think it could be nice in general. |
| 01:22:20 | linuxstb | I think it's feasible, at least for core Rockbox - the "screens API" in Rockbox should allow screen rotation, as the width and height are variables. |
| 01:22:50 | linuxstb | Most plugins will just need to be hard-coded to portrait or landscape I think. |
| 01:22:53 | guest | winff i cant download :( |
| 01:23:47 | markun | with some small changs to the button driver and the LCD code it shouldn't be too difficult to do it |
| 01:23:54 | * | Llorean thinks we should host our own copy of WinFF, or better yet, incorporate its function into RbUtil. |
| 01:24:24 | markun | guest: did you try 'elefants dream'? |
| 01:24:41 | guest | no |
| 01:24:44 | markun | easier than encoding your own movie |
| 01:24:46 | guest | but ill try one of my own |
| 01:24:54 | markun | ok, as you wish |
| 01:24:58 | guest | i have some already encoded |
| 01:25:12 | midgey | Llorean: is there a way to look at a list of registered users on the forum? |
| 01:25:16 | linuxstb | guest: To the specifications listed on the PluginMpegplayer page/ |
| 01:25:17 | linuxstb | ? |
| 01:25:26 | Llorean | midgey: Yes |
| 01:25:27 | guest | ill try |
| 01:25:42 | * | midgey hopes he hasnt missed something simple... |
| 01:25:52 | midgey | oh my |
| 01:26:01 | * | midgey slaps himself |
| 01:26:10 | Llorean | Hehehe |
| 01:26:21 | toffe82 | you should try this movie : http://www.pocketmovies.net/detail_363.html |
| 01:26:51 | midgey | also, i think some of the committers are missing from staff |
| 01:26:58 | guest | ok but can i have the link to the page where it says how to encode |
| 01:27:01 | linuxstb | toffe82: Can mpegplayer play that? |
| 01:27:21 | markun | guest: we gave it already |
| 01:27:24 | Llorean | guest: You've been given the link to the PluginMpegplayer page twice now. |
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| 01:27:39 | toffe82 | I download a version a long time ago and I encode it for the gigabeat cause it was the vga one |
| 01:27:41 | guest | i have it |
| 01:27:46 | guest | its just the download is not working |
| 01:27:56 | guest | for winff |
| 01:28:10 | Llorean | Try one of the other methods then |
| 01:28:17 | toffe82 | this should be a reference movie, good music and good story |
| 01:28:25 | linuxstb | toffe82: The mpeg-1 320x240 version seems perfect for mpegplayer - it's a program stream with 44.1KHz audio... |
| 01:28:40 | toffe82 | try it ; |
| 01:28:42 | toffe82 | ,) |
| 01:28:44 | toffe82 | ;) |
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| 01:29:04 | toffe82 | this site is full of small movies for pda |
| 01:29:18 | toffe82 | so you should find the good format |
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| 01:30:00 | markun | guest: and in case you want to watch a movie while trying to encode your own: http://mikachu.rockbox.org/elephantsdream-q6-320x176-596kbps.mpg |
| 01:30:07 | midgey | toffe82: seems to work well here |
| 01:30:10 | smably | somebody want to fix FS #6924? (it's trivial) |
| 01:30:27 | toffe82 | midgey : good movie ? |
| 01:30:46 | midgey | a monk just got axed |
| 01:31:11 | toffe82 | :) |
| 01:31:58 | toffe82 | after try this one http://www.pocketmovies.net/detail_73.html |
| 01:32:42 | guest | umm is it normal the installer for winff isnt even working??? |
| 01:32:48 | markun | toffe82: ah yes, I know that one |
| 01:32:49 | guest | cuz i wanna encode my movies bu i cant! |
| 01:33:02 | toffe82 | bye |
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| 01:33:26 | Llorean | guest: As I said, try one of the other installer methods\ |
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| 01:33:37 | markun | guest: this is just your first rockbox day, don't expect everything to work at once :) |
| 01:33:38 | Llorean | guest: WinFF is not our software, and we can't really be responsible for it. |
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| 01:38:54 | * | Domonoky reads in the logs about rbutil and WinFF... WinFF is written in Pascal :-( |
| 01:39:20 | linuxstb | Domonoky: There's a challenge for you... |
| 01:39:46 | Domonoky | no, thanxs :-) |
| 01:39:50 | Llorean | Domonoky: You don't need to use WinFF itself. |
| 01:40:01 | Llorean | Domonoky: Most of what it does is generate a .bat file with the command line to run ffmpeg with |
| 01:41:21 | Domonoky | :-) |
| 01:41:39 | Domonoky | but i will finish my gui rework on rbutil first.. :-) |
| 01:41:50 | Llorean | Of course, no hurry. It was more or less a random spouting if an idea. |
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| 01:46:03 | Llorean | I'm just somewhat fond of ffmpeg now. I've just thrown flv, wmv, DivX and XVid files of varying sources at it, and it's converted them all fine. I haven't played the FLV and WMV sourced files on my device yet, but they play fine on the PC and seem right. |
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| 01:51:37 | Nico_P | Domonoky: seen my rbutil patch ? |
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| 01:52:04 | Nico_P | Llorean: when album art becomes official, it could be nice to have rbutil help the users manage it |
| 01:52:55 | Nico_P | and maybe it could also be made capable of building the database ? |
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| 01:56:55 | Llorean | Nico_P: I think both of those might be a good ear for it to grow. |
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| 01:57:39 | Soap | when you say "manage" you are envisioning...? |
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| 01:58:11 | _Amblin | linux you in? |
| 01:58:43 | Llorean | Soap: For me, just a case of, while building the database, scanning for embedded art and extracting it to file-specific art. |
| 01:58:45 | Nico_P | Soap: converting JPEG covers to bitmaps of a size chosen by the user |
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| 01:59:00 | jhMikeS | I know the conversion ended probably an hour ago :) but why can't plugins just use screens? |
| 01:59:02 | Soap | ahh, ok. |
| 01:59:03 | Nico_P | Llorean: I hadn't thought of that but it would be great |
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| 02:00:52 | _Amblin | Llorean: I believe the A/V sync issue on the mpeg plugin only effects files larger than the acessable buffer |
| 02:01:06 | Llorean | _Amblin: I've watched several 500mb files without problem. |
| 02:01:29 | Llorean | Or what accessible buffer are you referring to? |
| 02:01:41 | Soap | I have had no sync issues on a 90 min movie (Nano, so it was less than 500MB, though ;) ) |
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| 02:02:09 | _Amblin | The buffer mpeg plugin could use before it was updated to allow rebuffering |
| 02:02:24 | _Amblin | Ram? |
| 02:02:26 | _Amblin | Memory? |
| 02:02:53 | _Amblin | Anyway, its wierd, only files that are larger than about 20 megs play out of sync on my e200 |
| 02:03:16 | Llorean | _Amblin: What frame rate was it encoded at? |
| 02:03:21 | Soap | and not on your PC _Amblin? |
| 02:03:46 | _Amblin | Llorean: I encoded at 23.976 |
| 02:04:01 | _Amblin | soap: Files encoded on my PC work find |
| 02:04:14 | _Amblin | Play fine* |
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| 02:04:33 | Soap | the same exact file which goes out of sync on your Sansa, when played on your PC stays in sync? (not the original, the converted one) |
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| 02:04:49 | _Amblin | soap:yes |
| 02:05:27 | Llorean | _Amblin: The Sansa can't do fullscreen video at 23.976 |
| 02:05:44 | Llorean | _Amblin: The player isn't fast enough yet, so sync problems could relate to excessive frame dropping |
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| 02:06:20 | Llorean | _Amblin: Have you tried encoding at the suggested 15fps, or better yet 12 to have some elbow room? |
| 02:06:56 | _Amblin | Llorean: Ive tried 15 with mixed sucess depending upon clip, Ill try 12 |
| 02:08:14 | webguest46 | finally worked |
| 02:08:19 | webguest46 | i was called guest a while ago |
| 02:08:23 | _Amblin | Anyone else find that WinFF wont allow setting FPS below 20 when encoding Mpeg2? |
| 02:08:26 | Llorean | _Amblin: I have a Sansa. I'm about to leave to see 300, and when I'm done with that I'll try some video on my Sansa and report in-thread. |
| 02:08:42 | Llorean | _Amblin: Lemme check something |
| 02:08:50 | Llorean | _Amblin: It may be that the presets file on the wiki doesn't have the fix for that in it |
| 02:08:56 | _Amblin | Llorean: Enjoy the movie, saw it a few days ago, it was awesome |
| 02:09:09 | Llorean | _Amblin: I've already seen it once, a couple days after it came out. This time, though, I'm going with someone. :) |
| 02:09:20 | _Amblin | :) |
| 02:09:21 | Llorean | _Amblin: Try downloading the presets file from the wiki again. |
| 02:09:26 | _Amblin | Ok |
| 02:10:12 | Llorean | MPEG-2 only officially suppports 23.976, 24, 25, and 29.97 (I think, I'm not sure the exact list), but there are other unofficial ones (10, 12, 15) and those require a paramter, -strict -1, that I only included for the coldfire targets initially |
| 02:10:30 | Llorean | With the updated presets.xml, they're all strict -1, so you should be able to set your framerate to 10, 12, or 15 |
| 02:11:52 | _Amblin | Llorean: Thanks for the assistance, Ill report back if this is sucessfull |
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| 02:12:31 | webguest46 | can anyone tell me how i install roms on my gigbaeat |
| 02:12:42 | Soap | as in Gameboy ROMs? |
| 02:12:45 | webguest46 | snes |
| 02:12:56 | Soap | do we have a SNES emmulator? |
| 02:12:56 | markun | webguest46: it's not possible |
| 02:13:00 | Llorean | Soap: Nope |
| 02:13:04 | webguest46 | oh :( |
| 02:13:08 | webguest46 | thats too bad |
| 02:13:17 | Llorean | webguest46: Most of our players are far, far, far too slow |
| 02:14:16 | webguest46 | and ganeboy works better right? |
| 02:14:45 | markun | webguest46: they work |
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| 02:15:11 | webguest46 | so gameboy works.....snes doesnt |
| 02:16:01 | markun | webguest46: what gave you the impression that snes might be working in the first place? |
| 02:16:14 | webguest46 | well gameboys came after snes |
| 02:16:29 | tsuyoshi | uh nope |
| 02:16:37 | webguest46 | lol |
| 02:16:50 | tsuyoshi | gameboys came before snes |
| 02:17:43 | tsuyoshi | gameboy was released in 89, snes in 90 |
| 02:17:47 | Llorean | Gameboys came before the SNES, and even if they came after, they're a portable system which means very different restraints on capability. |
| 02:17:57 | Soap | regardless of the timeframe, it's a matter of the power of the CPU (and auxiliary chips) you are trying to emmulate, not the order of release. |
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| 02:20:26 | webguest46 | right |
| 02:20:27 | webguest46 | :P |
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| 02:47:42 | Sky9 | how would one go about replacing the bootloader on a sansa e200R? |
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| 03:19:10 | aduarte | is there any how to to display cover art while playing songs? |
| 03:19:52 | safetydan | aduarte, there is a patch floating around with support for album art display. It's included in some custom builds of Rockbox but not in the official one. |
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| 03:30:21 | n17ikh|Lappy | I never did get patching to work :/ |
| 03:30:44 | n17ikh|Lappy | well, it sort-of worked. |
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| 03:31:59 | webguest85 | how do i get gameboy roms runniong on my gigabeat f40 |
| 03:32:19 | n17ikh|Lappy | just throw them up named as .gb or .gbc |
| 03:32:25 | n17ikh|Lappy | I think gbc? |
| 03:32:30 | n17ikh|Lappy | and then open them in the file browser |
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| 03:33:38 | webguest85 | do i rename my roms? |
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| 03:35:04 | n17ikh|Lappy | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginRockboy |
| 03:35:13 | webguest85 | ah thx :P |
| 03:36:19 | webguest85 | there no download link on that page though |
| 03:36:23 | webguest85 | so i can download the plugin |
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| 03:37:01 | safetydan | webguest85, you don't need to download it |
| 03:37:06 | safetydan | it's included in Rockbox |
| 03:37:13 | safetydan | just open your .gb file in the file browser |
| 03:37:14 | webguest85 | well my roms aint workin in it |
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| 03:37:44 | safetydan | webguest85, any error messages? |
| 03:37:45 | webguest85 | oh well |
| 03:37:48 | webguest85 | umm ya |
| 03:37:53 | webguest85 | one sec ill tell ya waht it is |
| 03:38:09 | webguest85 | plugin returned error |
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| 03:38:13 | JdGordon | did anyone have any problems with 6922? or was it talked about last night? |
| 03:38:51 | safetydan | webguest85, do those roms work in other gameboy emulators? It may be they're corrupt in some way. |
| 03:39:05 | webguest85 | havent used them |
| 03:39:10 | webguest85 | downlaoded them for this only |
| 03:39:37 | safetydan | JdGordon, haven't seen it mentioned |
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| 03:40:47 | endresult | anyone here |
| 03:41:15 | safetydan | no |
| 03:41:20 | endresult | ok |
| 03:41:31 | safetydan | yes there's heaps of people here |
| 03:41:39 | endresult | well i just have one quick question for anyone who can answer it |
| 03:41:58 | endresult | yeah but most of them arent physically at the computer and talking in the chatroom |
| 03:42:15 | endresult | but my question is, how stable is rockbox supposed to be on the sansa |
| 03:42:21 | endresult | i realize its not finished |
| 03:42:31 | endresult | but its frozen up on my a couple of times |
| 03:42:38 | endresult | i was wondering if that's normal or not |
| 03:42:42 | n17ikh|Lappy | is there a way to boot into two different rockbox builds? |
| 03:42:52 | n17ikh|Lappy | e.g. on the iriver h10 20gb |
| 03:43:01 | safetydan | endresult, Sansa build is still pretty new so some lockups and so forth are expected |
| 03:43:21 | endresult | yeah i figured |
| 03:43:26 | endresult | just wanted to mkae sure, thanks |
| 03:43:38 | endresult | make* |
| 03:43:44 | JdGordon | definatly nothing in the log about it... |
| 03:43:57 | webguest85 | is linux on a gigabeat possible?? |
| 03:44:11 | Soap | yes |
| 03:44:12 | safetydan | n17ikh|Lappy: sort of, try looking in to rolo. You can select a rockbox image from the file browser and Rockbox will restart running that one instead. |
| 03:44:18 | n17ikh|Lappy | ah, right |
| 03:44:20 | n17ikh|Lappy | forgot about rolo |
| 03:44:26 | n17ikh|Lappy | thanks. |
| 03:44:47 | endresult | why would you want to boot different versions |
| 03:45:00 | aduarte | gameboy rooms? |
| 03:45:09 | n17ikh|Lappy | one build being the latest from SVN, one a custom build with a bunch of crap in it |
| 03:45:13 | aduarte | they work on any device? |
| 03:45:14 | endresult | ah |
| 03:45:26 | endresult | rooms? |
| 03:45:29 | endresult | you mean roms? |
| 03:45:31 | aduarte | i own an iaudio X5 |
| 03:45:43 | aduarte | lol :D |
| 03:45:44 | n17ikh|Lappy | I'm sceptical about the custom build's performance with all the turd plugins loaded |
| 03:45:50 | webguest85 | if i get a gameboy rom with .7z format |
| 03:45:53 | webguest85 | what do i do with it |
| 03:45:58 | n17ikh|Lappy | you unzip it |
| 03:46:07 | webguest85 | with? |
| 03:46:09 | n17ikh|Lappy | 7zip |
| 03:46:14 | endresult | or izarc |
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| 03:46:22 | webguest85 | winrar anygood? |
| 03:46:32 | n17ikh|Lappy | dunno if winrar does 7z, it should though |
| 03:46:37 | n17ikh|Lappy | open format and all that |
| 03:46:43 | endresult | yes, winrar does 7z |
| 03:46:50 | webguest85 | cool |
| 03:46:56 | endresult | costs money, though |
| 03:47:38 | webguest85 | for? |
| 03:47:59 | endresult | winrar |
| 03:48:26 | aduarte | n17ikh|Lappy: there is aprogram "7zip" |
| 03:48:30 | aduarte | i'ts free |
| 03:48:43 | n17ikh|Lappy | I know there is |
| 03:48:45 | webguest85 | i cant get full screen though |
| 03:48:48 | endresult | izarc is free as well |
| 03:48:49 | webguest85 | how do i go full screen? |
| 03:48:52 | n17ikh|Lappy | which is why I said 7z can be unzipped with 7zip |
| 03:48:53 | aduarte | www.7-zip.org/download.html |
| 03:49:30 | aduarte | :$ |
| 03:50:21 | webguest85 | how do i make it full screen |
| 03:50:40 | webguest85 | ?? |
| 03:50:44 | Soap | not a 7zip support channel |
| 03:51:40 | webguest85 | no |
| 03:51:42 | webguest85 | my rom |
| 03:51:46 | webguest85 | in rockbox |
| 03:52:29 | Soap | I have to admit I don't know. Never used Rockboy. |
| 03:52:50 | webguest85 | shity |
| 03:53:14 | webguest85 | got it :P |
| 03:53:39 | Soap | the manual is quite good you know. |
| 03:53:48 | webguest85 | nvre read that |
| 03:53:53 | endresult | rockboy? |
| 03:53:57 | endresult | is that a gameboy emulator |
| 03:54:05 | Soap | don't expect much support (any) for questions covered in the manual. |
| 03:54:10 | Soap | endresult: yes |
| 03:54:24 | endresult | sweeeeet |
| 03:54:28 | endresult | where can i get it |
| 03:54:38 | Soap | it comes with rockbox. |
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| 03:54:53 | endresult | oh |
| 03:54:57 | endresult | i never noticed it |
| 03:55:11 | Soap | it is a viewer - not listed in the plugins list. |
| 03:55:23 | endresult | viewer? |
| 03:55:28 | Soap | just like mpegplayer. You launch it by attempting to play a supported file. |
| 03:55:34 | endresult | ah |
| 03:55:37 | endresult | like a gbd file |
| 03:55:40 | endresult | gbc |
| 03:55:58 | Soap | again - manual, but yes. Gameboy and Gameboy Color. |
| 03:56:09 | perldiver | is there a difference in quality/speed between vlc and winff encoding? has anybody tried both and compared? |
| 03:58:54 | n17ikh|Lappy | what do I need to name my album art to make it work in WPSs with album art support? |
| 03:59:01 | n17ikh|Lappy | assuming I have an album art build. |
| 03:59:07 | n17ikh|Lappy | cover.bmp? |
| 03:59:11 | n17ikh|Lappy | folder.bmp? |
| 03:59:20 | n17ikh|Lappy | front.bmp? |
| 03:59:23 | n17ikh|Lappy | or will any bitmap work |
| 03:59:28 | n17ikh|Lappy | of the correct size, obviously |
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| 04:00:19 | Soap | cover.bmp |
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| 04:01:03 | n17ikh|Lappy | kk |
| 04:03:34 | n17ikh|Lappy | is it necessary to matte out images that are too small (like 100x87 instead of 100x100) to the correct size? |
| 04:04:55 | Soap | I don't _think_ so, I'm trying to remember if I did or not. |
| 04:05:45 | n17ikh|Lappy | well, it's mangling some of these I'm testing with pretty badly, so I'd assume so |
| 04:06:00 | n17ikh|Lappy | and of course different WPSs use different-sized images :/ |
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| 04:11:52 | voltagex | where do I find rbutil? |
| 04:13:07 | voltagex | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
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| 04:20:24 | jhMikeS | dangit...I put Tim Ross instead of Tom Ross. I hate not being able to edit commit messages cause I'm so inaccurate a typist and I just never see it 'till it's up there for everyone to see. Sorry Tim, errhm Tom. |
| 04:22:07 | * | jhMikeS wishes Bagder would install the little svn_propedit hook for us to do that |
| 04:25:49 | midgey | jhMikeS: its not like I did much of anything :) |
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| 04:27:17 | n17ikh|Lappy | is there a good reason for a lot of the WPSs uploaded to the rockbox wiki to have a thumbs.db in there? |
| 04:27:29 | n17ikh|Lappy | or is that just something dumb on the part of the uploader and their windows install |
| 04:27:55 | voltagex | n17ikh|Lappy: windows' fault |
| 04:28:07 | JdGordon | hey aliask|uni, where you hiding? |
| 04:28:36 | aliask|uni | Science computer labs |
| 04:29:14 | aliask|uni | Finally got around to fixing up that voicing patch to include the equalizer settings, but I can't test it cos I can't connect to my ssh at home... |
| 04:30:59 | JdGordon | yes you can.... |
| 04:31:14 | JdGordon | connect to sng.its.monash.edu, then you can ssh home |
| 04:31:21 | JdGordon | user/pass is authcate account |
| 04:31:30 | aliask|uni | Awesome :D |
| 04:32:06 | aliask|uni | Do you have to set it up? It's not letting me in. |
| 04:32:31 | JdGordon | not authcate... your unix account.. same username possibly different pass |
| 04:32:53 | aliask|uni | Don't have one... |
| 04:32:58 | JdGordon | there is a link somewhere to set that password on the monash site... dunno where tho :p |
| 04:33:04 | voltagex | :( wish I had some kind of way to ssh home from school |
| 04:33:49 | aliask|uni | Putty is installed already on all these computers :) |
| 04:33:54 | JdGordon | you can setup a http ssh gatewat on your home comp |
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| 04:35:05 | voltagex | how? |
| 04:35:24 | aliask|uni | I think there's a Java SSH client thing |
| 04:35:45 | voltagex | no, ssh is blocked |
| 04:36:05 | n17ikh|Lappy | crap |
| 04:36:14 | n17ikh|Lappy | this really nice-looking WPS doesn't work :/ |
| 04:36:20 | voltagex | we only have http/s and FTP through a proxy needing Basic authentication |
| 04:36:34 | voltagex | n17ikh|Lappy: might be the same one I tried, which one? |
| 04:37:12 | JdGordon | http://javassh.org/space/start |
| 04:37:28 | JdGordon | ^ volategex |
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| 04:37:56 | n17ikh|Lappy | Satin, for the X5/H10 20gb |
| 04:38:07 | n17ikh|Lappy | oh wait, here we go |
| 04:38:16 | n17ikh|Lappy | the one it's based off of looks better anyway >_> |
| 04:38:43 | aliask|uni | JdGordon: Yeah, I have to be doing something with computers to get a unix/ssh account - so I can't set the password for me to log in. |
| 04:39:11 | jhMikeS | midgey: that's ok, the build problem prompted me to get down and take care of it. the least thing I can do is get a name right or be able to fix it if not. :P |
| 04:39:33 | JdGordon | aliask|uni: your not doing any cs subjects? |
| 04:39:45 | JdGordon | you can also register fr a yoyo account at the its office... |
| 04:40:07 | aliask|uni | JdGordon: Not that the moment, I'm actually thinking about changing course to something with less maths and more computers :) |
| 04:40:10 | aliask|uni | What's yoyo? |
| 04:40:24 | JdGordon | a community server or something... |
| 04:40:32 | JdGordon | you can run anything you want on it aparently... |
| 04:41:35 | Alonea | is there a plan for a possible bookmark feature for the mpegplayer like on the text viewer? |
| 04:41:45 | JdGordon | probably.... |
| 04:41:54 | JdGordon | but not untill actuall playback is working better |
| 04:42:21 | Alonea | JdGordon: alright. Was just wondering/suggesting |
| 04:42:43 | jhMikeS | I'll argue coding philosophy or style issues to no end concerning things like using nested functions but if something's a bug that's it. |
| 04:42:57 | aliask|uni | JdGordon: Yoyo sounds pretty cool. I'll probably apply tomorrow |
| 04:44:09 | JdGordon | bugger.... <10min battery left on the lappy... |
| 04:44:15 | JdGordon | good thing i got a lecture in 10min :p |
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| 04:44:48 | aliask|uni | Where are you hiding anyway? |
| 04:45:15 | JdGordon | library |
| 04:45:22 | n17ikh|Lappy | damn |
| 04:45:28 | n17ikh|Lappy | this wps won't show me cover art >_< |
| 04:45:47 | n17ikh|Lappy | it looks really nice too... |
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| 04:47:04 | the_big_man | is there any way to disable charging through USB on the Gigabeat? |
| 04:48:08 | n17ikh|Lappy | rockbox has the option to shut that off in my iriver, I'd assume it's in the gigabeat version too... unless it's impossible due to hardware |
| 04:48:26 | the_big_man | I'll have a look, thanks |
| 04:48:42 | n17ikh|Lappy | settings > general settings > system > battery > charge during usb connection |
| 04:48:46 | n17ikh|Lappy | but I think it was off by default |
| 04:48:53 | n17ikh|Lappy | so maybe it's different in the gigabeat |
| 04:49:34 | the_big_man | no it's set to off by default on the gigabeat too |
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| 04:51:09 | n17ikh|Lappy | ah, then it shouldn't charge when plugged into USB :/ |
| 04:51:13 | breihanj | i have a better picture of the zif connector on the hitachi c4k60 inside my zen vision m now |
| 04:51:32 | n17ikh|Lappy | well, with the rockbox on the iriver it doesn't matter as there's no usb support for the iriver anyway |
| 04:51:45 | n17ikh|Lappy | have to boot it into emergency connect mode to put files on |
| 04:51:45 | breihanj | http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0020.JPG |
| 04:52:03 | Alonea | what is wrong with it charging with usb, like, for what reason would you turn it off? |
| 04:52:17 | n17ikh|Lappy | don't want it to suck down power |
| 04:52:23 | n17ikh|Lappy | like, on a laptop with limited battery life |
| 04:52:31 | the_big_man | it keeps overloading my USB ports and driving them into thermal shutdown |
| 04:52:33 | jhulst | k |
| 04:52:36 | n17ikh|Lappy | that too |
| 04:52:51 | n17ikh|Lappy | bus-powered hub? |
| 04:53:00 | breihanj | there are a couple others in that dir, i'm going to try and get the front of the connector with the cable |
| 04:53:09 | the_big_man | just the ones built into my laptop |
| 04:53:19 | n17ikh|Lappy | those should be self-powered :/ |
| 04:53:27 | Alonea | n17ikh|Lappy: ah, ok. Well, my laptop is always plugged in pretty much and i have never had a problem with it charging through usb. I was just wondering if there was a reason I shouldn't |
| 04:53:52 | Alonea | My laptop has 4 usb ports built in...more than I need. |
| 04:53:54 | Soap | my laptop has 6 usb ports. two on the side are "real" ports, four on the back are "hub" ports. I can shut off power to them in the BIOS. |
| 04:54:07 | the_big_man | mine has 3 and the cable I have uses 2 |
| 04:54:22 | the_big_man | to draw extra power for external HDD's |
| 04:54:29 | n17ikh|Lappy | ew |
| 04:54:34 | n17ikh|Lappy | that breaks the USB spec, most of the time :/ |
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| 04:54:54 | Soap | I wouldn't be suprised if that breaks it all the time. |
| 04:54:59 | n17ikh|Lappy | the USB spec requires USB devices to remain in low-power mode until they declare that they're high-powered devices |
| 04:55:04 | the_big_man | it has only started recently |
| 04:55:20 | n17ikh|Lappy | and "dumb" devices such as fans, lights, etc don't even bother to talk to the usb bus, let alone declare their intention to draw power |
| 04:55:23 | Soap | Can you just clip or tape over one pin to make yourself an "unpowered" USB cable for your gigabeat? Seems the easiest solution. |
| 04:55:29 | the_big_man | according to Windows my Gigabeat is drawing a constant 500mA |
| 04:55:45 | n17ikh|Lappy | that will cause USB to not work, if you clip Vcc |
| 04:55:54 | n17ikh|Lappy | it's required for various pullup and pulldown resistors, among other things |
| 04:56:12 | Soap | ahh, not like 1394 where you can run powered or not. |
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| 04:56:18 | the_big_man | the second USB connection on this cable only draws power, no data pins |
| 04:56:34 | n17ikh|Lappy | yeah, the second port would only be in low-power mode |
| 04:56:37 | the_big_man | it's meant for my external 1A HDD |
| 04:56:46 | n17ikh|Lappy | most of the time this doesn't cause a problem |
| 04:56:48 | n17ikh|Lappy | sometimes it does. |
| 04:56:49 | the_big_man | and for USB 1.0 |
| 04:57:10 | n17ikh|Lappy | what kind of cable does the gigabeat come with? |
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| 04:57:22 | the_big_man | just a mini B to A |
| 04:57:33 | n17ikh|Lappy | ah, then it should do fine on a single usb port... maybe it's the laptop |
| 04:57:40 | the_big_man | but the original firmware didn't charge unless it was in the dock |
| 04:57:40 | n17ikh|Lappy | my suggestion would be to find a cheap, self-powered USB hub |
| 04:57:58 | n17ikh|Lappy | and plug it between the laptop and gigabeat |
| 04:58:02 | n17ikh|Lappy | not exactly elegant |
| 04:58:08 | n17ikh|Lappy | but would probably solve the problme |
| 04:58:09 | the_big_man | I could take the PSU for the Gigabeat instead of a hub |
| 04:58:10 | n17ikh|Lappy | problem. |
| 04:58:31 | the_big_man | it's just something else that I have to put in my backpack |
| 04:59:02 | n17ikh|Lappy | so rockbox has USB support on the gigabeat then, I take it? |
| 04:59:15 | the_big_man | yea |
| 04:59:20 | Soap | I |
| 04:59:21 | n17ikh|Lappy | yeah, that menu option should work :/ |
| 04:59:23 | breihanj | http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0028.JPG i think i see the actuator on the left side |
| 04:59:31 | Soap | I'm pretty sure it's relying on the OF for USB. |
| 04:59:36 | breihanj | right side in that photo rather |
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| 05:00:03 | n17ikh|Lappy | I know with the iriver it relies on the actual flashed firmware for USB support |
| 05:00:16 | n17ikh|Lappy | e.g. the original bootloader |
| 05:02:06 | the_big_man | ... that menu option didn't appear to do anything... it's still charging |
| 05:02:13 | the_big_man | but not overloading yet |
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| 05:05:49 | n17ikh|Lappy | what the heck is a scrap file |
| 05:07:22 | breihanj | http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0033.JPG does that diagonal piece in between the black square at the bottom towards my thumb and the zif connector look like it could be the actuator to unlock the connector? i'm afraid to jam it with a screwdriver because it might be something important like a cap that i could knock off the board... |
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| 05:10:04 | cran1 | hello? |
| 05:10:36 | cran1 | I am trying to install Rockbox on my Sansa E250 |
| 05:10:55 | cran1 | Was curious if anyone on here has done so before??? |
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| 05:13:06 | safetydan | cran1, many people have successfully installed Rockbox on the sansa |
| 05:14:33 | cran1 | I am new to this (Linux and Rockbox and IRC). I have read the install instructions and the forum postings. My question is very basic. I am, as I type, trying to extract the file to my sandisk... |
| 05:14:45 | cran1 | is it supposed to take a long time??? |
| 05:15:03 | safetydan | Which file? |
| 05:15:10 | breihanj | toffe82: you there? |
| 05:15:26 | cran1 | The rockbox current build |
| 05:15:36 | cran1 | which I downloaded from the site |
| 05:15:57 | safetydan | cran1, I'm not familiar with the installation process for Sansa, but as far as I know, it shouldn't do anything unusual. |
| 05:16:36 | cran1 | The sandisk tells me it is "writing" but it's been doing so for about fifteen minutes. |
| 05:16:55 | safetydan | You might have more luck posting to the Sansa forum as this is a pretty quiet time on the IRC channel. |
| 05:17:17 | cran1 | I didn't know there was one. |
| 05:17:27 | cran1 | thanks |
| 05:17:45 | cran1 | oh, the forum, not another channel, gotcha |
| 05:17:51 | cran1 | thanks again |
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| 05:21:21 | the_big_man | does anyone here know how to transcode .mkv with .sfv subtitles to .mpg with VLC? |
| 05:27:26 | Overand | yeek |
| 05:27:42 | Overand | i'm not sure VLC will output a standard mpeg1 video |
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| 05:27:45 | Overand | let me take a peek and see |
| 05:29:23 | Overand | i think both of the container formats it seems to support are for mpeg-2 streams |
| 05:29:38 | Overand | actually, mpeg-PS miiight do it |
| 05:29:48 | Overand | the_big_man: http://wiki.videolan.org/index.php/MPEG-PS#MPEG-1_and_2 |
| 05:31:30 | Overand | the_big_man: yeah, they've got the command line you'll want right there |
| 05:38:43 | the_big_man | thanks |
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| 06:03:59 | smably | i'd be interested to hear what other gigabeat owners think of FS #6930 |
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| 06:04:44 | Alonea | smably: FS #6930? |
| 06:05:20 | smably | aye (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6930) |
| 06:07:33 | Alonea | smably: bit confused by it actually. Why would you be doing anything when the usb cable is plugged in? I plug in my usb to transfer files and maybe charge while I am encoding files to then transfer |
| 06:08:34 | Alonea | smably: can you even do anything when the usb is plugged in? |
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| 06:08:52 | smably | well, the functionality already exists (it's handy if you want to charge while listening to music); my patch just changes the key you have to hold when you plug in the cable |
| 06:09:31 | smably | it's not exactly a well-advertised feature :) |
| 06:10:04 | Alonea | smably: thats fine, I know some other people didnt agree with the buttons, its just the USB thing that confuses me. I never knew you could listen to music and have the usb cable in at the same time. |
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| 06:10:56 | smably | Alonea: yeah - you can try it if you like (hold MENU when you plug in USB) |
| 06:11:16 | smably | background charging is handy! |
| 06:12:22 | Alonea | smably: hmm, I bet if you are on your laptop and forgot your power cable for your player or lack power plug in space. i never thought about the use actually. I can see the moving of the buttons would be handy. |
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| 06:14:07 | smably | Alonea: okay, classy. changing button mappings can sometimes be contentious, so i thought it would be interesting to see what people thought of this... |
| 06:14:23 | Alonea | hey, where did the theme menu go? I miss my background picture... |
| 06:15:03 | smably | browse themes? that should be in the root of the settings menu |
| 06:15:24 | Alonea | smably: Actually some people want more button changes. They find the current button mappings illogical, though I am so used to them now I would be confused most liekly if they changed. |
| 06:15:49 | Alonea | smably: i probably missed it. I didnt update my rockbox for a month and I did the other day and now its all different |
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| 06:17:09 | smably | yeah - personally, i'd like the middle-plus button swapped with the power button (there's already a patch on FS for this), mostly because i'm used to the iriver buttons |
| 06:18:06 | Alonea | smably: there it is! Yeah, I dont like having menus on the power button really. |
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| 06:20:32 | smably | okay, off to bed |
| 06:20:37 | Alonea | night |
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| 06:51:43 | * | JdGordon is having some very odd phatom strings bugs :'( |
| 06:52:27 | JdGordon | my \0 is being removed very infrequently... but repeatably ausing sme odd strings to apear :p |
| 06:57:00 | * | JdGordon thinks there might be a big in buffer_alloc! |
| 06:57:26 | JdGordon | or strlen |
| 07:00 |
| 07:02:11 | JdGordon | or im a dill :p |
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| 07:25:33 | JdGordon | anyone got a archos player? |
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| 07:30:54 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: Jukebox 6000 |
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| 07:33:03 | Overand | Ok, I'm unresponsive in the UI, but backlight responds. |
| 07:33:12 | Overand | can't get to menus etc. |
| 07:33:38 | Overand | I was in 'shuffle' with a large (~1500 files) playlist, then it started skipping files |
| 07:33:47 | Overand | displaying the filename, then the next filename, then the next |
| 07:34:01 | Overand | screen i displaying a complete filename (a .mp3) and 'disk active' |
| 07:34:06 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: charcell? |
| 07:34:14 | Overand | but the drive is clearly spun down |
| 07:34:24 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: it appears to be :) |
| 07:34:42 | JdGordon | what icon does it use for files associated with plugins? |
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| 07:34:49 | JdGordon | e.g txt and jpg? |
| 07:35:10 | jhMikeS | I'll check it...it needs updating...gimme a minute |
| 07:35:19 | Overand | holding play didn't fire it down, but the reset shortcut did. (ipod, 5g, 60 gig) |
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| 07:36:16 | Overand | blar, i don't know if i should copy and paste that in a 'bug report' or not' |
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| 07:42:32 | jhMikeS | I'd better fix that red though |
| 07:42:49 | JdGordon | meh, they are all asleep... your safe for the moment :p |
| 07:44:20 | jhMikeS | pretty decent score though :p |
| 07:44:57 | jhMikeS | crap...you know...I haven't even hooked it to a USB yet and XP wants drivers |
| 07:45:17 | JdGordon | yeah not a ad score at all! |
| 07:45:47 | Llorean | 23,000, not bad. |
| 07:46:14 | JdGordon | Llorean: do you know what icon the okayer shows for txt and jpegs? |
| 07:46:17 | JdGordon | none right? |
| 07:46:36 | JdGordon | player* |
| 07:47:56 | jhMikeS | well, I suppose I need a good excuse now to hook this up so I'll just go ahead and get it running :) |
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| 07:49:33 | JdGordon | hmm... no, it shows a backwards ? aparently.... |
| 07:49:35 | JdGordon | bugger... |
| 07:49:58 | Llorean | JdGordon: I've never used a player, I've just run the sim briefly to see what tetris and cube looked like |
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| 07:50:30 | midgey | jhMikeS: i believe that score puts you in 5th |
| 07:50:43 | JdGordon | haha ony 5th :D |
| 07:50:46 | JdGordon | you suck! |
| 07:50:55 | JdGordon | morning LinusN |
| 07:51:12 | * | midgey votes for a highscore list |
| 07:51:37 | scorche | midgey: feel free to make a wiki page |
| 07:51:50 | jhMikeS | woohoo...highest one I've gotten and all cause I hit a key by accident and then committed :P |
| 07:52:04 | midgey | i wish i had been keeping track of all of them |
| 07:52:30 | LinusN | JdGordon: morning |
| 07:52:41 | scorche | you just need to put "kkwhateverthelastpartis = HUGE" on the top =) |
| 07:52:53 | jhMikeS | it's higher than the recording commit which didn't even break 10k and involved forgetting to include about a half dozen files |
| 07:53:19 | JdGordon | LinusN: have you seen 6922? cuts about 2k of the bin size.. but uses about 1k more ram than svn... is that ok? |
| 07:53:42 | LinusN | 2k bin size sounds nice |
| 07:53:59 | JdGordon | so ram usage isnt such a big deal? |
| 07:54:16 | JdGordon | on hwcodec this will be about 500bytes extra... |
| 07:55:59 | LinusN | ram usage is not as bad as rom usage on the archos |
| 07:56:07 | LinusN | what?? no macros??? :-P |
| 07:56:55 | JdGordon | haw haw haw... markun beat you to that :D |
| 07:57:41 | jhMikeS | Is there some extra crud I need to connect an Archos to XP? I never had a disk or manual for it if it requires that. |
| 07:58:12 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: dw bout it.. got the sim going with svn to check :) |
| 07:58:21 | scorche | jhMikeS: which archos? |
| 07:58:25 | jhMikeS | I still want this thing to connect! :) |
| 07:58:31 | jhMikeS | scorche: Jukebox 6000 |
| 07:58:38 | scorche | then yes...you need a driver |
| 07:59:02 | jhMikeS | On the archos site? |
| 07:59:05 | LinusN | jhMikeS: you need a driver for it |
| 07:59:22 | scorche | http://www.archos.com/support/download/drivers/Archos_USB_Drivers_09062005.zip |
| 07:59:39 | scorche | i cant guarantee that it is in there, but that was the drive package they list on their site |
| 07:59:57 | LinusN | jhMikeS: or these: http://linus.haxx.se/cypress_usb_storage_drivers_5.16.zip |
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| 08:00:27 | jhMikeS | thanks |
| 08:00:36 | jhMikeS | to both :) |
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| 08:01:01 | JdGordon | LinusN: so no problems with that patch then? |
| 08:01:20 | LinusN | i don't see any obvious issues |
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| 08:03:13 | JdGordon | Oh, one of the changes was that the open with menu now shows the title... so does it still need to say "no viewers" if there are none? |
| 08:03:30 | JdGordon | I tihnk its only needed on the player which doesnt show the title |
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| 08:07:52 | LinusN | JdGordon: perhaps |
| 08:09:25 | amiconn | morning |
| 08:09:30 | JdGordon | how do you get to the file context menu in the plyeR? |
| 08:10:16 | JdGordon | ah, long play :p |
| 08:10:21 | JdGordon | morning amiconn |
| 08:10:40 | JdGordon | the player lcd in the sim is rediculously slow now... is it the same on target? |
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| 08:12:32 | amiconn | No, on target it's fast |
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| 08:13:05 | amiconn | The sim is ridiculously slow because it redraws like mad |
| 08:13:23 | JdGordon | well as long as its only the sim its all good :) |
| 08:13:37 | amiconn | Btw, it seems that the menu code somehow causes the lsit code to redraw multiple times (looks like 3 times) |
| 08:13:42 | amiconn | *list |
| 08:13:53 | amiconn | The browser doesnt do this |
| 08:14:04 | LinusN | JdGordon: there is no lcd_update() function on the player, so the sim must redraw on every single change |
| 08:14:14 | JdGordon | ah |
| 08:14:29 | amiconn | LinusN: There is such a function on the player, but *currently* for the sim only |
| 08:14:38 | amiconn | This will change soon :) |
| 08:14:39 | LinusN | yes, but it isn |
| 08:14:50 | LinusN | 't called all the time |
| 08:15:03 | LinusN | because the target doesn't need it |
| 08:15:26 | LinusN | so there are "missing" lcd_update calls all over the place |
| 08:15:29 | amiconn | The target sort-of needs the update as well, but currently does it in a different manner |
| 08:15:50 | LinusN | amiconn: ah, for the glyph translation? |
| 08:15:50 | amiconn | ...by transferring each single change immediately |
| 08:16:00 | amiconn | Not only |
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| 08:17:02 | JdGordon | prepare yee for a green delta row :) |
| 08:17:18 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: I'm seeing a plug |
| 08:17:27 | aliask | Building the voice file for a H300 using festival is throwing me errors... stuff in system-target.h |
| 08:17:40 | amiconn | Of course putting a character on the display needs writing to the lcd controller. Just the amount of bytes is different depending on whether it's a hardware char (then it's 2 bytes - command+data), or a software char (then it's 2+8 bytes) |
| 08:17:44 | aliask | Does building the voice file from the configure script work? |
| 08:18:06 | amiconn | But I will change this to make the player use lcd_update() like any other (read: bitmap) target |
| 08:18:14 | JdGordon | jhMikeS: the plugin icon? ah bugger.. ok ill fix that then |
| 08:18:26 | amiconn | This will still be quite fast; the "frame rate" should be 600+ fps |
| 08:18:30 | XavierGr | amiconn: I tested greek.lang on player yesterday, nice work, couldn't see any problems except the rare ocassion of unstressed capitals as we discussed yesterday |
| 08:18:33 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: what should it show? a plugin shouldn't have a plugin icon? |
| 08:18:53 | JdGordon | not the plugins.. the files tat would load a plugin.. some_file.txt ? |
| 08:19:04 | amiconn | XavierGr: Yes, I decided to leave out the tonos for all capital letters, and just map them to the unstressed forms. |
| 08:19:04 | jhMikeS | oh |
| 08:19:52 | amiconn | It would look rather squeezed with tonos, and we don't have that many software definable chars at hand to waste them... |
| 08:20:42 | amiconn | JdGordon: On player, all "dynamically supported" (defined in viewers.config) formats just get the same icon - the mirrored question mark |
| 08:20:48 | XavierGr | amiconn: I see no problem with that, rare case and I am sure we can live without seeing the tonos :P |
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| 08:21:10 | amiconn | This is because the player cannot use the icon definition in viewers.config |
| 08:22:00 | jhMikeS | JdGordon: I see no icon |
| 08:22:06 | amiconn | However, there is a "text" icon defined in the internal icon set. This was used before viewers.config |
| 08:22:32 | JdGordon | ok, thats what its doing now.. |
| 08:22:40 | amiconn | Way back in time, rockbox was monolithic and the text viewer was built in... |
| 08:22:58 | JdGordon | and we still had rombox back then :D |
| 08:23:08 | amiconn | No, rombox wasn't invented by then |
| 08:23:40 | LinusN | those were the days... :-) |
| 08:23:44 | LinusN | in our youth |
| 08:24:32 | amiconn | But the recorder binary was well below 200KB, not needing self-extraction added... |
| 08:24:37 | * | jhMikeS 's youth was spent mostly lighting things on fire and street racing :P |
| 08:25:01 | JdGordon | there is no reason why we cant use the inbuilt icons for the charcell, just need to map them in some semi-logical way to the viewers.config file... |
| 08:25:04 | amiconn | Today we're at 236KB uncompressed... |
| 08:25:40 | amiconn | JdGordon: If the icons only use 5x7 out of the 6x8 icon pixels, we could make the player use the icons from viewers.config... |
| 08:27:17 | amiconn | It just needs some bit shuffling magic (not much), and probably extending the number of software definable chars (in the driver), in order to save us from redefining all the time. Currently it allows for 16 of them, but that can fairly easily be extended to allow 32 or such |
| 08:27:38 | amiconn | The mapping to the available hardware chars is automatic (in the driver) |
| 08:31:13 | * | JdGordon thinking about being able to use the icons from viewers.config in the new open with menu |
| 08:32:40 | jhMikeS | is there going to be headered bitmaps and a raw version that takes a header as a param so as not to bloat icons or other large numbers of same-sized and type images? |
| 08:33:02 | amiconn | There will be, yes |
| 08:33:24 | jhMikeS | that ought to cut a few bytes out |
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| 08:44:30 | amiconn | wow |
| 08:44:35 | amiconn | That's a lot of gain... |
| 08:45:15 | * | MikeSeth stretches |
| 08:45:17 | * | amiconn wonders when Slasheri is going to fix the nasty yellow :/ |
| 08:45:34 | MikeSeth | anyone from e200 port team here by a chance? |
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| 08:45:44 | MikeSeth | uhm.. port. Not port! |
| 08:46:29 | Llorean | MikeSeth: There's not really an "e200 team" |
| 08:46:48 | Llorean | There's "the Rockbox team" which includes a few people who've done e200-specific stuff, but 95% of things affect all the players. |
| 08:47:01 | MikeSeth | Llorean: oh. We didn't talk yesterday did we? |
| 08:47:45 | MikeSeth | Either way, I installed Rockbox on my e280 yesterday. It wooooorks! |
| 08:48:48 | Slasheri | amiconn: i need some help from someone with 4g or h10 to find the problem |
| 08:50:00 | MikeSeth | I have a friend with h10.. and h10 likes to lock up :( |
| 08:51:13 | amiconn | Slasheri: Maybe linuxstb can help, as he has a color |
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| 08:53:02 | aliask | Can someone help me with building voice from linux? |
| 08:53:03 | amiconn | Hrrm, JdGordon is gone... |
| 08:53:41 | Bagder | aliask: select voice in configure, then make voice |
| 08:53:44 | amiconn | JdGordon: (for the log) The icons on player are broken... Firmware, .cfg, audio files... all get the folder icon! |
| 08:53:56 | amiconn | Only dynamic file types get their mirrored question mark |
| 08:53:58 | Slasheri | amiconn: indeed, he already has. |
| 08:54:17 | aliask | Bagder: It's saying that festival isn't started, but looking at the sh script it should start it itself. |
| 08:54:22 | amiconn | gtg |
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| 08:55:32 | GodEater_ | aliask: tried espeak instead ? |
| 08:55:53 | Topic | "Rockbox Devcon 2007 - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevCon2007" by LinusN (i=linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) |
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| 08:56:10 | aliask | GodEater_: A lot of missing dependencies that aren't in the apt repository |
| 08:56:54 | aliask | Festival looks like the way to go, but it won't start for whatever reason. |
| 08:57:10 | Bagder | it has worked for me in the past |
| 08:58:33 | aliask | I'll see if I can get it started manually, but it doesn't look like the script is perfect. |
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| 09:01:58 | GodEater_ | I can't get festival to work at all for me - the script requires something called festival-client |
| 09:02:05 | GodEater_ | which isn't something that's part of the package I installed |
| 09:02:07 | aliask | Ah, never mind. It's a festival problem. I'll sort it out when I get back from work |
| 09:02:09 | GodEater_ | so I had to use espeak. |
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| 09:04:36 | aliask | nls had the same problem about a week ago, apparantly flite works fine |
| 09:06:07 | std|denis | hello |
| 09:06:20 | std|denis | are there bootloader hackers? |
| 09:06:35 | std|denis | bootloader for iriver ihp-1xx |
| 09:07:03 | Bagder | ask the question instead |
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| 09:08:05 | std|denis | why bootloader could show me "shutting down" as the very first line on the screen? |
| 09:08:21 | Bagder | hold? |
| 09:08:43 | std|denis | as i can see from the code it should show "Rockbox boot loader" right after lcd_init() |
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| 09:09:09 | std|denis | but looks like it not reach that printf.. |
| 09:09:26 | Llorean | std|denis: Is this with the official bootloader, or the one you modified that you were talking about earlier? |
| 09:10:24 | std|denis | Llorean: yes, i'm talking about the bootloader from current SVN. sorry that didn't said about that |
| 09:11:01 | pondlife | Wooh, DevCon! |
| 09:11:32 | std|denis | i've added only single line of code. but it is not reached |
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| 09:13:07 | pondlife | std|denis: You probably need to do an lcd_update to see your printf... |
| 09:13:47 | pondlife | ...if one isn't already happening. |
| 09:15:20 | std|denis | pondlife: the matter is not about my printf ;) all my changes are a single "shutdown();" at the end of "USB mode" condition to prevent firmware startup at USB disconnection |
| 09:16:41 | std|denis | i just can't understand the behaviour of bootloader :( i'm looking into the code and can't imaging why that happing |
| 09:18:07 | std|denis | i try to turn it on twice. and the 1st attempt always give me "shutting down..." (disk is spinning up and then turning down) and on the 2nd attempt all is fine |
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| 09:23:29 | std|denis | Bagder, all: where is the right place on the forum to put my questions about current SVN code? |
| 09:23:43 | Bagder | to the rockbox-dev mailing list |
| 09:24:01 | Bagder | if you want to be sure to reach as many devs as possible |
| 09:26:45 | std|denis | Bagder: i just want to ask these my stupid questions in more "private" area when they won't be mixed with other questions in a single stream ;) |
| 09:27:13 | Bagder | yes, and I told you how to reach the devs most reliably |
| 09:27:19 | Bagder | you decide how to proceed |
| 09:27:35 | Bagder | and they aren't "mixed" |
| 09:27:43 | Bagder | mail readers are threaded these days |
| 09:29:22 | std|denis | Bagder: yep. thanx. i'll follow your hint |
| 09:31:47 | Bagder | I wonder if we could get a coverity scan of rockbox code |
| 09:32:09 | scorche | Bagder: when you change the topic, can you try and keep the guidelines link it it?...feel free to disagree if you are against it |
| 09:32:20 | scorche | s/it it/in it |
| 09:32:30 | * | Bagder points to LinusN |
| 09:32:35 | * | LinusN looks away |
| 09:32:51 | * | Bagder throws big fish in LinusN's direction |
| 09:32:54 | scorche | ah sorry...still getting used to hydra, so i didnt know who did it =) |
| 09:32:56 | * | LinusN ducks |
| 09:33:31 | Bagder | http://scan.coverity.com/index.html |
| 09:34:05 | LinusN | what's the url to the guidelines? |
| 09:34:16 | scorche | dont worry...i will change it in a sec |
| 09:35:09 | Bagder | curl is now in the coverity program so I hope to evaluate what goodness it can give |
| 09:35:29 | Mode | "#rockbox +o scorche " by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 09:36:38 | Topic | "Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IrcGuidelines | Rockbox Devcon 2007 - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/DevCon2007" by scorche (n=_@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 09:36:48 | * | petur checks coverity and gets confirmed that firefox _is_ rather buggy |
| 09:37:04 | Bagder | haha |
| 09:37:13 | Bagder | well, 1.8 million source lines |
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| 09:38:21 | scorche | does anyone know of anything else that needs to be changed on the VMware image, while i am making a new version? |
| 09:40:02 | jhMikeS | scorche: new make? smaller default memory? ummm...svn with auto props? |
| 09:40:27 | jhMikeS | larger image size ... 2GB kinda stinks |
| 09:41:52 | jhMikeS | I'm just spouting what comes to mind...don't really know what was covered already |
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| 09:43:08 | scorche | well, i tend to only change things when they are needed, as stability is nice....new make isnt needed atm, default mem - i would rather others change it themselves, and information of this ids handy (i should add it to the wiki page if it isnt there already), svn - maybe, larger image size, no way unless dire...the less people have to download, the better |
| 09:43:36 | scorche | eek...punctuation mess |
| 09:44:12 | GodEater_ | in theory making the image size larger shouldn't make much difference to the compressed image - it'll mostly be sparse |
| 09:44:34 | GodEater_ | but if someone wants more space than 2GB for a dev environment, they should seriously think about installing linux natively IMHO |
| 09:44:39 | scorche | also, people aready think taking up 2 gigs of their space is too much |
| 09:46:21 | jhMikeS | I had to update to 3.81 mine cause amiconn changed the build system |
| 09:46:38 | jhMikeS | argh...I run short on space too much |
| 09:46:48 | scorche | i updated to 3.81 last update |
| 09:47:12 | scorche | actually, 2 updates ago |
| 09:47:28 | jhMikeS | can I have a custom one with 4GB? :) :D |
| 09:47:40 | scorche | you cant do that yourself? =P |
| 09:47:41 | GodEater_ | jhMikeS: can't you just make your own ? |
| 09:47:55 | jhMikeS | don't you need to buy stuff for that? |
| 09:48:01 | GodEater_ | no |
| 09:48:04 | GodEater_ | VMWare Server is free |
| 09:48:16 | jhMikeS | oh...then I guess I can |
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| 09:48:33 | scorche | requires a registration, but there is no check to make sure it is true |
| 09:48:51 | GodEater_ | you do need a real email address though don't you? to get the registration key ? |
| 09:48:59 | GodEater_ | although trashmail works for that I get |
| 09:49:03 | GodEater_ | s/get/guess |
| 09:49:14 | jhMikeS | I can create an email just to do it and then remove it |
| 09:49:15 | GodEater_ | it's been ages since I downloaded |
| 09:49:18 | scorche | i forgot...also, that is why i registered junksnaddress@hotmail.com ;) |
| 09:49:29 | GodEater_ | I use trashmail.net for those sort of things |
| 09:49:45 | jhMikeS | my ISP allows address creation just for that purpose :) |
| 09:50:13 | scorche | well, back on topic...nothing else? |
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| 09:50:24 | GodEater_ | scorche: what are you actually updating ? |
| 09:50:28 | jhMikeS | thinking... |
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| 09:51:03 | GodEater_ | or is there a list somewhere ? |
| 09:51:06 | scorche | DanA's commit of " |
| 09:51:06 | scorche | Make rockboxdev.sh build ARM libgcc with support for thumb code interworking |
| 09:51:13 | scorche | whoops |
| 09:51:23 | GodEater_ | ah |
| 09:51:34 | scorche | but, i am adding that patch to the arm-elf-gcc |
| 09:52:02 | GodEater_ | is anyone going to accept my patch to configure to allow parent directories of the rockbox environment to include spaces in their names ? |
| 09:52:11 | GodEater_ | or at least make the change on their own :) |
| 09:52:12 | jhMikeS | the rockboxdev.sh no longer tries to load that whole 500MB now? |
| 09:53:26 | Bagder | load that whole 500MB? |
| 09:53:34 | Bagder | load what? |
| 09:53:48 | jhMikeS | Actually it needed 500MB or so to install the arm-elf-gcc update |
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| 09:54:17 | Bagder | aha |
| 09:55:05 | Bagder | I guess it still does |
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| 09:55:32 | Bagder | ~52MB for the target install tree, probably 50 for downloaded packages, and then some 400 for the build tree |
| 09:55:39 | Bagder | wouldn't surprise me at least |
| 09:56:13 | jhMikeS | I had to modify the script to not reqire the directory to be cleared when doing it or else both sets of files were present and using space. :P |
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| 09:57:14 | jhMikeS | that was faster than moving stuff off the image |
| 09:57:28 | Bagder | you could just remove the old contents first |
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| 10:00:06 | jhMikeS | It doesn't delete the bz2 files so those and the extracted ones were there at the same time and it couldn't finish |
| 10:00:22 | Bagder | aha |
| 10:00:37 | Bagder | well, that certainly is a limited disk-amount system |
| 10:01:00 | Bagder | it leaves the files there to allow re-runs without having to re-download |
| 10:03:23 | jhMikeS | ...but I was cutting it _real_ close in the space :) |
| 10:04:06 | jhMikeS | now, as far as the memory, I haven't had a complaint just running it with 32MB |
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| 10:10:27 | jhMikeS | it doesn't require anything near the, iirc, 128MB it was configured for originally |
| 10:12:29 | scorche | it is set to 256 notmally |
| 10:12:44 | scorche | normally... |
| 10:14:33 | scorche | and i turned it down to that number when i did my first update |
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| 10:39:56 | pondlife | jhMikeS: Any news on low-latency? |
| 10:41:08 | pondlife | More score congrats, btw |
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| 11:37:07 | Llorean | Soap: You present? |
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| 12:15:06 | eatnumber1 | how long does it generally take for a patch to be commited to trunk? |
| 12:15:31 | eatnumber1 | also, is there a rss feed of svn messages that I can use to put on my rss reader? |
| 12:15:59 | Llorean | There is no usual time. |
| 12:16:31 | Llorean | eatnumber1: And there's an RSS feed here that isn't bad: http://cia.vc/stats/project/rockbox |
| 12:16:39 | Llorean | It's unofficial, though, I believe, so it may vanish. |
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| 12:17:54 | eatnumber1 | is there any reason that rockbox does not have a setting for the ipod nano's 300mah battery? |
| 12:18:14 | Llorean | I thought it was 340 |
| 12:18:21 | eatnumber1 | http://ipodbatteryfaq.com/ipodbatteryandpower.html |
| 12:18:33 | Llorean | Yes, and other sites have said other things |
| 12:18:54 | eatnumber1 | reguardless, the lowest you can go is 1200 |
| 12:19:04 | Llorean | Anyway, the setting isn't important, because we cannot consistently estimate time remaining on the iPod anyway, and that's all it's for, estimating how much time you have left |
| 12:19:28 | eatnumber1 | then why have the setting at all? |
| 12:19:58 | Llorean | Because once we CAN estimate time, it'll be useful |
| 12:19:58 | eatnumber1 | couldn't you just disable it in the ipod builds? |
| 12:20:00 | eatnumber1 | ah |
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| 12:20:08 | Llorean | Seriously, you're using pre-release software. |
| 12:20:12 | eatnumber1 | what is needed in order to estimate the times? |
| 12:20:17 | Llorean | There are aspects of it that don't work yet. |
| 12:20:49 | Llorean | Anyway, there's no point in getting an estimate set up now, and then having to do it again once battery life is actually "right" |
| 12:21:13 | eatnumber1 | right? |
| 12:21:26 | eatnumber1 | oh, you mean 340 vs 300mah? |
| 12:21:58 | Llorean | No, I mean "lasting longer than half the original firmware's playback time" |
| 12:22:06 | Llorean | You had notice that battery life in Rockbox is very short, right? |
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| 12:23:10 | eatnumber1 | on my ipod, it seems to last about 12-14 (very rough estimate) hrs |
| 12:23:18 | eatnumber1 | i'm not sure what it's supposed to be |
| 12:23:35 | eatnumber1 | but i do understand that rockbox hurts battery life badly |
| 12:23:38 | Llorean | On your Nano, Rockbox lasts 14 hours? |
| 12:23:48 | Llorean | Have you actually done a battery benchmark of this? |
| 12:24:00 | eatnumber1 | no, like I said, that's a very rough estimate |
| 12:24:11 | Llorean | Most people get 9. |
| 12:24:15 | Llorean | Is it 5 hours rought? |
| 12:24:24 | eatnumber1 | how do I do a benchmark? |
| 12:24:30 | Llorean | Using the battery_bench plugin. |
| 12:24:35 | Llorean | See the IpodRuntime wiki page. |
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| 12:25:47 | eatnumber1 | i'll do a benchmark |
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| 12:29:35 | scorche | Bagder: there? |
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| 12:43:03 | scorche | nevermind then...i will catch you later |
| 12:43:34 | Soap | Llorean: you rang? |
| 12:44:27 | Llorean | Soap: I've honestly forgotten what I was going to ask. It wasn't very important anyway. Sorry |
| 12:44:42 | Soap | not a problem. |
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| 14:00:22 | spotUP | hi |
| 14:00:36 | petur | ho |
| 14:00:44 | spotUP | is there any codec coder here? |
| 14:01:04 | spotUP | i have some suggestions for opensource players that could be made to work with rockbox. |
| 14:01:16 | spotUP | the thing i lack most is a mod plugin. and... |
| 14:02:25 | petur | spotUP: check http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5241 |
| 14:02:38 | spotUP | the dumb thing? |
| 14:02:49 | spotUP | can i make it work on my ipod without compiling it? |
| 14:03:24 | JdGordon | bluebrother: 6924 is a manual patch... incase you havnt seen... |
| 14:03:26 | spotUP | check this out: |
| 14:03:26 | spotUP | http://www.slack.net/~ant/ |
| 14:03:39 | JdGordon | its in bugs though which is why i point it out |
| 14:03:55 | spotUP | or this rather: |
| 14:03:55 | spotUP | http://www.slack.net/~ant/libs/audio.html#Game_Music_Emu |
| 14:04:15 | spotUP | it's a quite portable video game player. it's supports lots of cool formats. |
| 14:04:35 | Bagder | spotUP: so what is the suggestion? |
| 14:05:02 | spotUP | about mod playback or the game music emulation lib? |
| 14:05:28 | Llorean | spotUP: We already support NSF, SPC and... was it ADX? All three are game formats. |
| 14:05:33 | Llorean | game audio formats, rather |
| 14:05:45 | Llorean | Perhaps you should attempt to be very specific in your statements of suggestion. |
| 14:05:47 | spotUP | as for mod playback, there's an accurate, quite new player... that originates from the amiga. but it could be easilly changed, to work with rockbox me thinks. lemme dig up a link to the source. |
| 14:06:10 | * | GodEater_ is willing to put money on it not being that easy =/ |
| 14:06:15 | Llorean | spotUP: You're aware that Rockbox is fixed point, and C, and has certain buffering constraints? |
| 14:06:27 | pondlife | And no malloc :) |
| 14:06:38 | GodEater_ | pondlife: you said the bad word |
| 14:06:44 | Bagder | and m68k coldfire is not asm-compatible with amiga |
| 14:06:51 | pondlife | The m- word... |
| 14:06:58 | spotUP | llorean, about video game formats, well check out the link http://www.slack.net/~ant/libs/audio.html#Game_Music_Emu it's a nice lib that plays a lot of formats. sorry, but i don't know what fixed point means. i am not a very experienced coder. :) |
| 14:07:05 | JdGordon | does anyone have any ideas about 6863 (having the possibility that you can infinitly loop into a screen with GO_TO_PREVIOUS) that doesnt involve remembering the last 5 screens? |
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| 14:07:22 | GodEater_ | I think by fixed point Llorean probably means integer |
| 14:07:43 | Llorean | GodEater_: It's not *quite* the same. |
| 14:08:01 | spotUP | here's a small neat mod player (source included) http://aminet.net/util/libs/ptplaylib_os4.lha |
| 14:08:01 | GodEater_ | I know - but most of our codecs end up as integer no ? |
| 14:08:09 | spotUP | it's very accurate. |
| 14:08:09 | Bagder | spotUP: feel free to work on that! |
| 14:08:55 | spotUP | Bagder it's way out of my league. :) i have ported shitloads of stuff to AmigaOS 4.0, but when it comes to writing my own stuff, and not changing small parts, i am.. ehh.. kinda lost :) |
| 14:08:57 | bluebrother | JdGordon: already noticed |
| 14:09:12 | spotUP | just wanted to help with resources for players, as i am quite into old formats. |
| 14:09:15 | bluebrother | but thanks for pointing it out −− I still need to find a couple of minutes to test it |
| 14:09:26 | Bagder | spotUP: well if you checked our feature-request list, we're not exactly out of ideas to implement... |
| 14:09:26 | bluebrother | (as I usually build all manuals before committing anything) |
| 14:09:29 | Llorean | GodEater_: You use only integers (no doubles or floats) but some of the data has value on the right side of the decimal point. |
| 14:09:47 | GodEater_ | bcmath |
| 14:10:02 | bluebrother | JdGordon: btw, any solution on 6863? You don't sound that way ... |
| 14:10:16 | JdGordon | no, i keep hitting a brick wall.. |
| 14:10:22 | pondlife | JdGordon: What's actually causing "Nothing to resume" to appear? It's returning to the root menu from the WPS, right? |
| 14:10:43 | bluebrother | I'm on a long travel over the weekend. I will see if I can get a look |
| 14:11:00 | JdGordon | the wps screen is returning GO_TO_PREVIOUS, but for some reason the previous was set to wps.. which returns previous... so looping forever |
| 14:11:15 | JdGordon | the simple fix is to check for that in each screen.... but it sucks |
| 14:11:17 | bluebrother | pondlife: when the last screen was the main menu and you switched to wps using the play button |
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| 14:11:22 | pondlife | Hmm, so it really means GO_TO_PREVIOUS_BROWSER? |
| 14:11:34 | spotUP | me and a friend made a new chip music tracker for AmigaOS 4.0 btw. released in december. It's based on the old tracker AHX by Abyss. It loads/saves ahx tunes, but it also has it's own much extended format. ( www.hivelytracker.com ) the sources to the replayer is included in the archive, if anyone would like to make a rockbox plugin we'd VERY much appreciate it. The player is ported to WinAMP, XMPlay, Linux commandline e |
| 14:11:38 | JdGordon | no, go_to_previous is correct... |
| 14:11:40 | bluebrother | no, as the previous screen could be like the main menu |
| 14:11:41 | pondlife | Nah, you may want to return to the menu.. |
| 14:11:50 | pondlife | Sorry - thinking aloud again |
| 14:11:53 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:12:01 | pondlife | Well, maybe not even thinking :( |
| 14:12:03 | bluebrother | thinking alound might be helpful anyway |
| 14:12:15 | Llorean | spotUP: Feature requests belong in the feature request tracker, but it sounds like you aren't really familiar with the limitations Rockbox imposes on such things. |
| 14:13:06 | spotUP | no i ain't familiar with that. no. |
| 14:13:13 | * | bluebrother needs to route another PCB (which is a complete waste IMO) at uni :( |
| 14:13:29 | spotUP | well, i just thought i'd come here and talk directly. seems like a bad idea then. |
| 14:13:41 | GodEater_ | not a *bad* idea |
| 14:13:44 | GodEater_ | just not easy :) |
| 14:14:14 | bluebrother | spotUP: the main problems would be: no dynamic memory, no fpu, limited amount of memory |
| 14:14:27 | GodEater_ | how old is mod as a format ? |
| 14:14:36 | spotUP | 1987 |
| 14:14:42 | spotUP | (^_^) |
| 14:14:50 | GodEater_ | so it probably doesn't need fpu |
| 14:14:53 | Bagder | probably even older I'd say |
| 14:15:03 | bluebrother | which basically requires everything to use fixed point math |
| 14:15:06 | spotUP | bluebrother well, a tune made in hively tracker is usually around 2-4k "big" :) |
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| 14:15:41 | Bagder | I think the problem is that nobody wants to work on it |
| 14:15:51 | * | GodEater_ agrees |
| 14:15:55 | Bagder | there's been talk about mod for years |
| 14:16:09 | * | bluebrother noticed about devcon this morning :D |
| 14:16:14 | Bagder | and personally I couldn't care less |
| 14:16:22 | pondlife | I'd rather see MoB than mod |
| 14:16:23 | Bagder | devcon devcon devcon! |
| 14:16:31 | * | Llorean wishes devcon were on his side of the Atlantic. :-P |
| 14:16:51 | * | pondlife wishes it was in 2008 :( |
| 14:16:54 | nls | there is a working mod player in the tracer... |
| 14:17:48 | JdGordon | Bagder: the rockbox fund got enough to import some international celebraties for devcon? :) |
| 14:17:49 | * | petur will check his agenda tonight and start negotiations with his wife... cheap tickets are already found :) |
| 14:18:01 | * | bluebrother hopes to find time for devcon. If only this uni stuff was already done ... |
| 14:18:15 | GodEater_ | JdGordon: provided you don't mind travelling freight - of course ;) |
| 14:18:31 | * | Llorean wonders if the "Beers" he's owed from solving various peoples' "bricks" can be redeemed for a ticket. |
| 14:18:53 | Bagder | JdGordon: I bet we can at least offer a "helping hand" |
| 14:18:58 | * | petur wonders how much beer he's allowed to bring into Sweden |
| 14:19:06 | Bagder | hehe |
| 14:19:17 | Bagder | EU limits are pretty liberal |
| 14:19:25 | Bagder | something like 120 liters or so |
| 14:19:26 | JdGordon | Bagder: :) too bad exams are on then :( |
| 14:19:37 | JdGordon | :O |
| 14:19:40 | JdGordon | no way that much |
| 14:19:54 | GodEater_ | provided it's for "personal consumption" |
| 14:19:58 | Bagder | yeps |
| 14:20:06 | JdGordon | well... sdl is stuffed on my new install... rockboxui just hangs? |
| 14:20:23 | Bagder | Swedes are very good at those "alcohol trips" down to germany and back |
| 14:20:38 | GodEater_ | don't blame 'em either |
| 14:20:43 | spotUP | ok. so how do i make the mod plugin work on my ipod? it seems binaries are only available for iriver or am i missing something? |
| 14:20:44 | GodEater_ | alcohol prices in sweden are shocking |
| 14:20:50 | Bagder | amen |
| 14:20:57 | bluebrother | oooh ... belgium beer? |
| 14:21:05 | spotUP | GodEater Bagder you swedes? ja oxo. |
| 14:21:10 | petur | if I come, I bring :) |
| 14:21:14 | Llorean | spotUP: Binaries go out of date moderately quickly anyway. You're going to have to take a little time to learn to compile. |
| 14:21:25 | GodEater_ | I'm no swede no, but I know Stockholm very well - worked there for 2 years |
| 14:21:28 | Bagder | spotUP: yeps, I am and so are few other of us |
| 14:21:44 | linuxstb | spotUP: Setup a development environment (see the wiki), download the source code to Rockbox (see the wiki), apply the patch to the source (see the wiki), compile Rockbox (see the wiki). |
| 14:21:59 | GodEater_ | LinusN left Nykoping off his list of far away budget airports |
| 14:22:14 | GodEater_ | (excuse use of wrong vowel - usual excuses regarding wrong keyboard layout apply) |
| 14:22:19 | Bagder | yeah, ryan air goes there |
| 14:22:30 | GodEater_ | it has no right calling itself a stockholm airport |
| 14:22:38 | GodEater_ | it's in the middle of bloody nowhere |
| 14:22:46 | Bagder | haha, it is a bit of a stretch, yes |
| 14:22:51 | * | petur found tickets from frankfurt for 58 euro :) |
| 14:22:59 | pondlife | JdGordon: Sim works ok here.. |
| 14:23:03 | bluebrother | speaking of FRA? |
| 14:23:05 | linuxstb | Can't be any worse that the various "London" airports spread around the country... |
| 14:23:07 | JdGordon | no... alice springs airport is in the middle of bloody nowhere... and they want to turn it int a regional hub |
| 14:23:09 | Bagder | petur: that's not bad at all |
| 14:23:09 | GodEater_ | I think I spent what I saved on airfare getting from there to Stockholm |
| 14:23:24 | JdGordon | pondlife: just installed ubuntu 7.04 beta.. no worky |
| 14:23:26 | GodEater_ | linuxstb: very true - Luton and Stanstead are equally comedic |
| 14:23:39 | pondlife | Ah. Check your SDL audio output path? |
| 14:23:45 | spotUP | linuxstb, yea... compiling things ain't that hard. but setting up a cross dev environment sounds like much work. but maybe it aint. and it will be worth it, so i'll look into it today. |
| 14:23:49 | petur | Bagder: and times are nice too: arrives fridaymorning, leaves mondaymorning |
| 14:23:50 | JdGordon | pondlife: how? |
| 14:23:54 | pondlife | Dunno |
| 14:23:56 | JdGordon | :) |
| 14:23:57 | GodEater_ | spotUP: we have a script that does it all for you |
| 14:24:05 | Bagder | petur: sounds perfect! |
| 14:24:10 | pondlife | But the sim itself is working nicely under Cygwin here, so it's probably not Rockbox |
| 14:24:38 | * | GodEater_ has a baby's head wetting to attend in Stockholm around that time too |
| 14:24:53 | pondlife | Convenient |
| 14:24:54 | GodEater_ | anyone familiar with Akkurat, near Slusen ? |
| 14:25:08 | Bagder | GodEater: of course, a fine beer place |
| 14:25:14 | GodEater_ | my favourite |
| 14:25:19 | GodEater_ | although I go for the whisky usually |
| 14:25:30 | GodEater_ | the list is extensive :) |
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| 14:26:51 | GodEater_ | I also have a small straw goat awaiting my arrival - it apparently needs to be set on fire |
| 14:27:09 | GodEater_ | apparently this is a xmas tradition somewhere up north in Sweden |
| 14:27:13 | petur | hahaha |
| 14:27:15 | GodEater_ | I have of course entirely missed xmas |
| 14:27:27 | GodEater_ | and the standard goat is several stories tall if I'm to understand correctly |
| 14:27:36 | Bagder | yeah, its a huge one |
| 14:27:38 | GodEater_ | this is some sort of personal stand in |
| 14:27:46 | Bagder | and apparently it survived last year |
| 14:27:50 | GodEater_ | so I hear |
| 14:27:53 | GodEater_ | shame :) |
| 14:27:55 | bluebrother | petur: you found something from FRA / Germany? |
| 14:28:08 | Bagder | they have some new anti-fire chemicals on it that did wonders |
| 14:28:13 | petur | bluebrother: yes, with ryanair |
| 14:28:23 | GodEater_ | Bagder: spoilsports |
| 14:28:23 | bluebrother | oh, Frankfurt Hahn then? |
| 14:28:26 | petur | yes |
| 14:28:27 | Bagder | yeps |
| 14:29:21 | bluebrother | Frankfurt isn't too far from my place, but Hahn is kinda unreachable by train |
| 14:29:39 | * | petur should calculate car fuel in the price too and look for a closer airport |
| 14:29:39 | Bagder | there are buses though |
| 14:29:53 | * | Bagder went to Hahn and back |
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| 14:30:39 | GodEater_ | petur: does that also fly into Nykoping then ? |
| 14:30:51 | petur | no, the other smaller one |
| 14:30:57 | GodEater_ | Skavsta? |
| 14:31:06 | bluebrother | germanwings would be great as they depart from Stuttgart −− to bad they don't fly to sweden :( |
| 14:31:11 | petur | yes |
| 14:31:15 | Bagder | ryanair goes to nykoping/skavsta |
| 14:31:43 | GodEater_ | I think if I come I'll spring for British Airways and just go to Arlanda. I'm fed up of airports in the styx. |
| 14:32:30 | bluebrother | wow. By train the fastest connection from here is about 17h :o |
| 14:32:41 | GodEater_ | you'd have to go home as soon as you arrived! |
| 14:33:21 | petur | bah, flight times from Brussels suck big time... |
| 14:34:41 | GodEater_ | wow, £54 for BA from Heathrow. That's impressively cheap! |
| 14:35:33 | * | pondlife wishes the "Erase dynamic playlist" warning survived a power off better... |
| 14:36:20 | bluebrother | hmm. 130EUR two-way to ARN ... |
| 14:39:27 | * | nls is just a 1hour busride away, but can't make it anyway :-/ |
| 14:39:47 | bluebrother | that's too bad |
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| 14:40:43 | JdGordon | pondlife: how do you mean? |
| 14:41:16 | daurn | JdGordon: do you know how to look up who lives at a certain address? |
| 14:41:25 | JdGordon | whitepages? |
| 14:41:26 | daurn | (or what business is there) |
| 14:42:00 | daurn | na, you need to know the surname |
| 14:42:36 | GodEater_ | daurn: you're stalking someone ? |
| 14:42:55 | daurn | need to know name of car dealer |
| 14:42:58 | daurn | i know the address |
| 14:43:45 | JdGordon | type the addy into google? |
| 14:44:24 | daurn | awesome |
| 14:44:25 | daurn | " Gran Turismo Autos" |
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| 14:48:15 | daurn | nice split ;) |
| 14:51:27 | * | JdGordon wishes his hard disk was big enough for more than 1 linux setup at a time.... this install is already fucked :p |
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| 14:53:06 | aliask | JdGordon: Well if it's screwed why would you want to keep it? |
| 14:53:24 | JdGordon | because i cbf reinstalling now.... |
| 14:53:41 | daurn | JdGordon: lappy? |
| 14:53:53 | JdGordon | ye |
| 14:54:06 | daurn | use NFS? ;) |
| 14:54:19 | JdGordon | slooow |
| 14:54:57 | daurn | guess thats a no to samba |
| 14:58:15 | bluebrother | replace harddisk? |
| 14:58:38 | * | GodEater_ wonders how it's possible to f*** it up so badly |
| 14:59:59 | JdGordon | disk is expensive... and removing the sdl package for some reason decided to remove kubutu-desktop... and i forgot to check that before pressing enter :' |
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| 15:00:01 | JdGordon | :'( |
| 15:00:23 | aliask | You can always reinstall kubuntu-desktop |
| 15:00:27 | JdGordon | i cancelled it.. but now i dont know what half-installed packages are still there |
| 15:00:42 | bluebrother | shouldn't apt capable of reparing this? |
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| 15:05:52 | * | GodEater_ quietly hums gentoo's praises in the background |
| 15:05:57 | * | spotUP is installing cygwin |
| 15:05:59 | spotUP | (^_^) |
| 15:07:05 | JdGordon | computer is too slow for a gentoo install |
| 15:07:26 | JdGordon | unless i could get the other compuyers in the house working as a ocmpile farm... |
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| 15:08:29 | GodEater_ | distcc |
| 15:08:59 | LinusN | GodEater: he first has to install gentoo on the build farm computers :-P |
| 15:09:15 | * | GodEater_ is aware of LinusN's opinion on gentoo ;) |
| 15:09:21 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:09:33 | JdGordon | dont they just need the same version of gcc? |
| 15:09:39 | GodEater_ | yes |
| 15:09:41 | GodEater_ | and libraries |
| 15:09:50 | GodEater_ | so LinusN is mostly correct |
| 15:10:02 | GodEater_ | they don't need to be running gentoo per se - but it does make life easier |
| 15:10:18 | GodEater_ | GRP is pretty quick to install though |
| 15:10:45 | GodEater_ | it's once you start installing kde things go slow... |
| 15:11:04 | GodEater_ | or gnome |
| 15:11:17 | GodEater_ | although from what I recall kde is a larger build |
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| 15:14:06 | JdGordon | whos bloody idea was this GO_TO_PREVIOUS nonsense??? |
| 15:15:41 | aliask | I just wanna give a plug for FS #6159. I fixed it all up again and I would love to see it commited. Anyone have any thoughts? |
| 15:16:23 | JdGordon | the voice patch? wasnt there a problem with the voices being too large for the buffer or something? |
| 15:16:58 | linuxstb | Useful little file from ffmpeg containing some "soc rules" - http://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg/trunk/doc/soc.txt?view=markup |
| 15:17:01 | LinusN | yes, the voice file will be too big for the archos |
| 15:17:24 | aliask | How big is the max file size? |
| 15:17:37 | LinusN | roughly 1.4M methinks |
| 15:18:41 | Llorean | linuxstb: Just a bit of information, I accidentally encoded a video at 59.94 fps and mpegplayer seems to be coping admirably on the gigabeat with frameskipping. |
| 15:18:52 | JdGordon | could we split the voices to get around that problem? |
| 15:19:09 | JdGordon | and just store which file has which voice ids? |
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| 15:19:24 | linuxstb | Llorean: Nice... |
| 15:19:27 | LinusN | the elephantsdream on download.rockbox.org skips a lot of frames on my gigabeat |
| 15:20:01 | LinusN | the playback is not smooth at all |
| 15:20:45 | Llorean | linuxstb: I stupidly forgot to set the fps when encoding from a VOB, but the resultant movie is actually still playing quite smooth, and audio is in sync nicely. And I tested that guy's file, and had no sync issues, though an older version of mpegplayer did play with a lot less frameskipping (and still in sync) |
| 15:21:52 | linuxstb | LinusN: Get optimising :) |
| 15:22:05 | LinusN | :-) |
| 15:22:17 | linuxstb | Was that the full-screen (320x240) version? |
| 15:22:21 | LinusN | yes |
| 15:22:24 | * | Llorean hasn't watched the full-screen version. |
| 15:22:29 | Llorean | What's the bitrate on it? |
| 15:22:37 | LinusN | it looks like a BAG OF SHIT :-) |
| 15:22:47 | * | linuxstb goes to cry in the corner |
| 15:23:08 | LinusN | 830kbit/s i believe |
| 15:23:32 | Llorean | Ah, I've been experimenting in the 400-range, though that turned out to be a little low for my 60fps file. Oops. |
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| 15:24:33 | linuxstb | According to the PluginMpegplayer page, mpegplayer averages 28fps for the full-screen ED (or at least it used to...). The file itself is 24fps, so I would just expect some frame-skipping during periods of fast motion. |
| 15:24:37 | AceNik | hey guys is it possible to create simulators for plugins from cygwin |
| 15:25:04 | Llorean | linuxstb: I think the frameskip is definitely too aggressive right now. |
| 15:25:38 | markun | linuxstb: do you know where the constants for the yuv2rgb conversion in the jpeg/mpeg plugins come from? |
| 15:25:56 | linuxstb | Llorean: So it seems, I'll investigate that.. |
| 15:26:09 | linuxstb | markun: Probably the jpeg viewer, which I expect is wrong... |
| 15:26:37 | markun | The more I read about YUV and YCbCr the more I get confused |
| 15:26:55 | linuxstb | markun: If you find the original libmpeg2 source code, you should be able to find the original yuv2rgb function and compare it with what Rockbox is doing. |
| 15:27:08 | markun | linuxstb: ok |
| 15:27:20 | linuxstb | It's possibly distributed as part of "mpeg2dec" |
| 15:27:32 | linuxstb | (or mpeg2dec is just the sample program that comes with libmpeg2...) |
| 15:27:55 | markun | linuxstb: is this the right one? http://libmpeg2.sourceforge.net/downloads.html |
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| 15:28:46 | linuxstb | Checking the README.rocbox file in the mpegplayer directory, the file I took libmpeg2 from was mpeg2dec-0.4.0b |
| 15:29:10 | linuxstb | Ah, a new version was released... |
| 15:29:47 | linuxstb | markun: Yes, that page looks right. |
| 15:31:33 | linuxstb | markun: Seems to be macro hell - libmpeg2/convert/rgb.c |
| 15:31:34 | * | Llorean realizes he's stupid and figures out how to set a "quality" rather than a bitrate for ffmpeg. |
| 15:33:09 | markun | linuxstb: yes, also the other rgb*.c files don't look very helpful |
| 15:33:23 | Llorean | Is it logical to expect that a set bitrate will give us the emphasis on predictable performance, and qscale would give us less predictable playback framerates but in theory better visual quality? |
| 15:34:06 | linuxstb | Llorean: BTW, I think you need to limit the FPS for full-screen on the ipod Photo/Color - I tried something at 24fps today, and it skipped far too much. 15fps should be OK though. 24fps widescreen is just about OK (there are skipped frames, but not too many). |
| 15:34:18 | linuxstb | Llorean: Yes, sounds logical. |
| 15:34:18 | AceNik | hey guy is there a way to make a simulator make plugins work , can i test my build by compiling a simulator |
| 15:34:47 | LinusN | AceNik: the plugins should work in the simulator |
| 15:34:50 | linuxstb | AceNik: plugins work in the simulator - as long as you're compiling the plugins with the simulator, and not attempting to run plugins compiled for a target device. |
| 15:35:01 | Llorean | linuxstb: Alright, I'll do that. |
| 15:35:21 | LinusN | AceNik: "make", then "make install" |
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| 15:36:01 | crop | JdGordon: still around? |
| 15:36:06 | JdGordon | bluebrother: im getting closer..... i have got it not looping... but pressing menu from in the root menu doesnt work |
| 15:36:10 | JdGordon | yeah, sup? |
| 15:36:50 | bluebrother | btw, "menu" from the main menu seems to toggle to the settings. Is this wanted? |
| 15:37:02 | bluebrother | I'd rather have it toggle the menu itself |
| 15:37:02 | JdGordon | no, it should go back to the last screen |
| 15:37:03 | pondlife | JdGordon: You mean using menu to go back to the WPS if menu was just pressed in the WPS..? |
| 15:37:06 | AceNik | <LinusN>so when after i do build S, i should make , n then make install for making a simulator that would make my plugins work right |
| 15:37:11 | JdGordon | pondlife: yes |
| 15:37:19 | bluebrother | ah, ignore me. |
| 15:37:45 | bluebrother | it only does that when the settings was the last screen −− but I'm a bit unsure if I think this is logical |
| 15:38:35 | crop | JdGordon: so the problem is that the state is tracked wrongly? Not that funcs return wrong values? |
| 15:38:46 | JdGordon | yes.. and well.. no... |
| 15:38:55 | JdGordon | the state is tracked correclty... thats the problem |
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| 15:39:17 | pondlife | JdGordon: Does the root menu know if there is nothing to resume? |
| 15:39:23 | AceNik | <LinusN>o if i have pathed plugins, can i just normally say build S, "make ", then after make file created say "make install" |
| 15:39:48 | crop | JdGordon: then we should draw the state machine. |
| 15:39:50 | JdGordon | pondlife: no... but thats not really the point... trying to fix the actual cause of the problem |
| 15:39:58 | * | JdGordon hates state machines :p |
| 15:40:36 | JdGordon | ok.. whos game to test? |
| 15:40:45 | JdGordon | i _think_ its working correctly now |
| 15:40:59 | * | petur loves statemachines :p |
| 15:41:29 | JdGordon | state machine for root_menu.c... SNAFU :D |
| 15:41:30 | crop | JdGordon: or maybe we should introduce a func for converting "relative" GO_TO_xxx (e.g. GO_TO_PREVIOUS) into absolute ones (e.g. GO_TO_WPS). Then tracking things will get easier. |
| 15:41:59 | JdGordon | na, i tinhk its good now... |
| 15:42:07 | JdGordon | need testers... |
| 15:42:13 | bluebrother | JdGordon: why did you make the browse() function take an argument? It's like 3 functions in one ... |
| 15:42:36 | JdGordon | because it is 3 functions in one :) |
| 15:42:39 | pondlife | JdGordon: I can test, what's the FS# again? |
| 15:42:47 | bluebrother | I changed that on the last weekend and it saved some bytes −− no need for carrying the argument anymore |
| 15:42:53 | LinusN | AceNik: yes, when you build your simulator, you first type "make" to build it, then "make install" to install it in a subdirectory calles "archos" (for historical rasons) |
| 15:42:59 | LinusN | reasons even |
| 15:43:00 | bluebrother | me can test too |
| 15:43:59 | JdGordon | jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/root_menu.c">http://jdgordon.mine.nu:8080/jonno/root_menu.c |
| 15:44:17 | JdGordon | not a patch because svn isnt installed... |
| 15:44:22 | pondlife | OK |
| 15:44:25 | crop | Hmm... I think having such translating function would clarify the picture. Easier to debug since everything will run throug it. |
| 15:44:26 | AceNik | <LinusN>ok bro , thanks cu |
| 15:45:08 | JdGordon | the idea origionally was that browse() (in tree.c) would be rewritten to be more generic and so browse() (in r_m.c) would be able to do the browseing for all 3 types very simliarly... |
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| 15:45:26 | pondlife | 3 types? File/dir/settings? |
| 15:45:51 | bluebrother | ... and I thought it was to make the code harder to understand :P |
| 15:45:59 | pondlife | That too ;) |
| 15:46:30 | pondlife | While I'm waiting for Cygwin to build, an OT question... |
| 15:46:43 | pondlife | Does anyone know of any open source code to read/parse .CRT files? |
| 15:47:04 | LinusN | what are those? |
| 15:47:04 | JdGordon | files/db/plugins |
| 15:47:05 | Bagder | crt? |
| 15:47:07 | bluebrother | crt? What's that? |
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| 15:47:17 | pondlife | X.509 certificates. |
| 15:47:17 | bluebrother | Common Runtime? C Runtime? |
| 15:47:25 | Bagder | pondlife: openssl |
| 15:47:38 | Bagder | and crt is not the format, just the extension |
| 15:47:41 | bluebrother | damn, was too slow ;-) |
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| 15:47:56 | pondlife | Indeed. There are multiple formats in there, right? |
| 15:47:58 | Bagder | libasn can too I believe |
| 15:48:03 | Bagder | pondlife: yes |
| 15:49:13 | pondlife | I'm only concerned with DER binary, not base64. I started looking through openssl yesterday, but there's a lot to wade through - I was hoping someone had written a tiny viewer that did the job. |
| 15:49:21 | pondlife | Thanks anyways |
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| 15:51:16 | Bagder | http://josefsson.org/libtasn1/ |
| 15:51:44 | pondlife | Thanks Bagder |
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| 15:51:54 | bluebrother | JdGordon: btw, there is another inconsistency ... if the last screen is the settings menu, and GO_TO_PREVIOUS toggles you get stuck there |
| 15:52:12 | bluebrother | i.e. left doesn't go to the main menu as it would if you entered the settings through that menu |
| 15:52:32 | JdGordon | thats not in svn is it? |
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| 15:53:01 | bluebrother | imo we should either go back (like the browsers do) or (my preference) only allow left to go to the main menu (even from browsers) when that screen was entered through the main menu |
| 15:53:05 | bluebrother | that's current svn |
| 15:53:18 | JdGordon | ah yes.. and its here also... |
| 15:53:21 | JdGordon | umm.... |
| 15:53:32 | JdGordon | werent you very against left > menu at the start? |
| 15:53:38 | bluebrother | yes :) |
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| 15:54:07 | bluebrother | but the current state is inconsistent −− left from the browsers work, where it doesn't in that settings case. |
| 15:54:26 | * | JdGordon checks it out.... |
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| 15:54:47 | bluebrother | but the best solution IMO would be to track if the tree was entered via the main menu and only allow left if the menu was used |
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| 15:55:16 | pondlife | JdGordon: That "patch" looks good here, after a brief test |
| 15:55:29 | JdGordon | ta |
| 15:55:29 | pondlife | bluebrother: I see what you mean, that seems like a bug |
| 15:55:29 | bluebrother | ... which makes it possible having a much more similar behaviour as before the new main menu (by setting the startup screen to the file browser) |
| 15:55:58 | bluebrother | ... and also is a fine solution for users that use the main menu to access everything |
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| 15:56:00 | JdGordon | no that wont work... |
| 15:56:07 | bluebrother | why not? |
| 15:56:17 | JdGordon | the only way to get to the browser is "through" the root menu... |
| 15:56:29 | JdGordon | even if its not shown... to the code it apears that way |
| 15:56:50 | pondlife | It should always allow left from Settings back to the root, surely. |
| 15:56:53 | bluebrother | but you don't go "through" that menu if a browser is set as startupscreen. |
| 15:56:59 | bluebrother | shouldn't be to hard tracking that case |
| 15:57:20 | bluebrother | but the easier solution would be to fix left from settings ;-) |
| 15:57:58 | JdGordon | you dont.. but the code does.. |
| 15:58:09 | pondlife | Hmm, some questions about the playlist viewer keymap... |
| 15:58:15 | JdGordon | and yes.. it should be working the same as the wps now... i dunno why the hell its not |
| 15:58:43 | pondlife | 1) SELECT plays the selected track, but doesn't take you to the WPS. Is this correct? |
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| 15:58:58 | pondlife | 2) PLAY does nothing - should go to the WPS, right? |
| 15:59:16 | bluebrother | I don't, and it should be possible tracking what I see in the code as well |
| 15:59:20 | JdGordon | yes, the playlist viewer sucks :) |
| 15:59:30 | pondlife | Indeed it does! |
| 15:59:49 | pondlife | I wish it wouldn't insist on showing the track numbers too. |
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| 16:00:13 | bluebrother | pondlife: you can turn that off |
| 16:00:24 | pondlife | Cool, where? |
| 16:00:39 | bluebrother | there is a hidden settings menu you can only access from the playlist viewer |
| 16:00:45 | pondlife | Nice |
| 16:00:58 | pondlife | Pity they're not under Settings too |
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| 16:01:06 | bluebrother | maybe that settings should be accessible from the settings menu too ... |
| 16:01:12 | JdGordon | yes.. |
| 16:01:28 | pondlife | Acgtually I can only turn off the indices, not the track number |
| 16:01:49 | bluebrother | you'll see the file name in all cases anyway |
| 16:01:51 | pondlife | Ah, it's using filename, not track name |
| 16:01:53 | pondlife | :( |
| 16:02:19 | pondlife | That's not very iTunes-friendly for the Database users. |
| 16:02:36 | bluebrother | yeah ... |
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| 16:02:40 | pondlife | Luckily my music collection Has A Clue |
| 16:02:51 | Bagder | getting the metadata would be a whole lot more work |
| 16:03:31 | bluebrother | it could get that data from the database |
| 16:03:32 | pondlife | True, ..maybe the database could help out? |
| 16:03:39 | Moos | Bagder: maybe in a first step, only linked to tagcache |
| 16:03:44 | Moos | yeah |
| 16:04:04 | Bagder | still, it would need to lookup each song filename => dbentry's metadata |
| 16:04:06 | linuxstb | And only if the database is in RAM... It would be extremely nasty otherwise. |
| 16:04:10 | pondlife | It's sensible to display filenames when invoked from the file browser, maybe not so when invoked with hashed filenames. |
| 16:04:21 | pondlife | from the db. |
| 16:04:25 | Moos | roolku, Slasheri: any thought? |
| 16:04:45 | bluebrother | looks like updates aren't catched since the move of rockbox.* anymore |
| 16:05:21 | pondlife | Try browsing the .rockbox dir? |
| 16:05:31 | pondlife | It only used to work when you browsed the root. |
| 16:05:52 | pondlife | Nice feature, but needs re-implementing in a more useful manner. |
| 16:05:57 | bluebrother | really? IIRC it triggered (at least some times) at USB disconnect |
| 16:06:15 | pondlife | I thought so too, but noticed it didn't work if I was using the database. |
| 16:06:17 | bluebrother | JdGordon: seems to be fixed. |
| 16:06:29 | bluebrother | But I only tested the resume thing and the stop bouncing. |
| 16:06:38 | Moos | bluebrother: before when you disconnected it asked you for rolo |
| 16:06:55 | Moos | don't remenber when that went out |
| 16:07:17 | pondlife | Moos: But only when you next used the file browser, I'm sure. Maybe that was unintentional.. |
| 16:07:45 | pondlife | Also queued keypresses during USB would often result in it skipping the rolo question.. |
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| 16:08:16 | JdGordon | And ive just fixed the settings bug... commit then bed :) |
| 16:08:36 | linuxstb | Moos: I think there's a patch on the tracker to display track names from the database in the playlist viewer. But IIRC, it had some issues. |
| 16:09:46 | bluebrother | it was slow as hell iirc |
| 16:09:54 | Moos | pondlife: what do you mean?, I remenber that if you quited the usb connection, in any case, it asked for ROLO cause version was changed, that wasn't the case for usb mode since the player haven't "booted" yet :) |
| 16:10:12 | bluebrother | JdGordon: out of curiosity: what was the exact issue with the resume playback thing? |
| 16:10:13 | Moos | linuxstb: ok, I missed that patch |
| 16:10:33 | bluebrother | Moos: I guess that broke when the file got moved to .rockbox |
| 16:10:43 | JdGordon | bluebrother: it kept returning GO_TO_PREVIOUS, but previous was already set to wps... |
| 16:10:45 | pondlife | Moos: On H340 at least, it didn't actually prompt immediately if you were viewing the database. Only when you went into the file view. |
| 16:11:02 | pondlife | This predated the root menu and the .rockbox move. |
| 16:11:23 | pondlife | I assumed it was a bug but never got round to investigating |
| 16:11:24 | Moos | bluebrother: it went out before here, at least for my x5; didn't used my h1xx during long time |
| 16:12:16 | bluebrother | JdGordon: yes, figured that out myself. But why did that happen? |
| 16:12:27 | Moos | pondlife: ok, I din't see anymore this auto rolo when version change since ages, even before tagcache IIRC |
| 16:12:40 | bluebrother | i.e. why was the last_screen state not updated properly? |
| 16:12:45 | JdGordon | im not 100% sure.. i tinhk because of the order of the last_screen being set |
| 16:13:09 | bluebrother | ah. Thought it must have been something like that ... |
| 16:13:14 | JdGordon | this patch adds some extra cecks which were not done before... |
| 16:13:34 | bluebrother | maybe I'll adjust my restructuring over the weekend :D |
| 16:13:48 | bluebrother | train travels can be quite nice for coding |
| 16:14:01 | pondlife | Moos: The code is still in there... and it is part of tree.c.. |
| 16:14:19 | pondlife | Should be in a more generic USB disconnecty sort of place |
| 16:14:29 | bluebrother | *grr* renaming nets is quite a bad idea with DXP :( |
| 16:14:46 | Moos | pondlife: good to know :) |
| 16:15:39 | pondlife | Sorry, it's actually in filetree.c.. look for "boot_changed = true;" |
| 16:16:30 | Moos | ok np |
| 16:16:45 | JdGordon | yeah updated firmware file detection sux atm... |
| 16:17:16 | pondlife | It will probably trigger if you browse into .rockbox |
| 16:17:22 | pondlife | With all files displayed |
| 16:17:22 | petur | I had actualy done some work to fix the rolo on USB disconnect but ran out of time |
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| 16:19:00 | Moos | petur: is there a patch somewhere maybe ? |
| 16:19:06 | petur | nope |
| 16:19:11 | Moos | ok :) |
| 16:19:19 | pondlife | We'll believe you... ;p |
| 16:19:20 | petur | it's on my pc at home |
| 16:19:38 | Moos | :) |
| 16:19:58 | petur | if there's no big power failure tonight like last night I'll have another look at it |
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| 16:20:20 | Moos | great then ! |
| 16:20:34 | JdGordon | can we get the file modified attribute easily? |
| 16:21:36 | petur | we should - the current change detection isn't quite what it should be too |
| 16:22:22 | JdGordon | seen as its almost guarenteed the disk will spin up after usb, we should just read that attr for both possible firmware files after a disconnect |
| 16:22:30 | JdGordon | or dump the feature completly |
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| 16:23:38 | pondlife | Both? Is the root still supported? |
| 16:23:53 | JdGordon | yeah, you can have it in .rockbox or / |
| 16:24:20 | JdGordon | Bagder: is it possible to setup a script to automatically fix the svn keywords when files are added? |
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| 16:24:40 | bluebrother | JdGordon: enable svn autprops |
| 16:25:34 | bluebrother | somewhere in ~/.subversion/config |
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| 16:27:42 | JdGordon | the very end of the file aparently... |
| 16:28:25 | pondlife | JdGordon: Hmm, does this spin the disk up each time you change screen? |
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| 16:28:43 | JdGordon | I hope not... |
| 16:28:51 | pondlife | I can't be sure. Only got a sim here.. |
| 16:29:02 | pondlife | But worth a quick check maybe. |
| 16:30:06 | JdGordon | your going by the debug output? |
| 16:30:13 | pondlife | Yes |
| 16:30:36 | JdGordon | yeah, it writes to nvram every change... on target this is delayed untill a real spinup |
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| 16:30:46 | JdGordon | on the sim there is no need for the delay |
| 16:30:55 | pondlife | OK |
| 16:31:19 | JdGordon | both tables green :) im going to bed |
| 16:31:20 | JdGordon | cyaz |
| 16:31:25 | pondlife | night |
| 16:31:29 | crop | With the last change to root_menu.c, does the splash "Nothing to resume" show up when the playlist naturally gets to the end? |
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| 16:31:44 | crop | I can't test right now |
| 16:32:11 | crop | pondlife: do you have the last change installed? Could you check it for me? |
| 16:32:23 | pondlife | Indeed, it seems fixed now |
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| 16:32:33 | pondlife | Let us know if not |
| 16:32:45 | rp- | hola rockboxers |
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| 16:33:36 | crop | pondlife: Do you mean my question? |
| 16:33:43 | pondlife | Yes |
| 16:34:10 | pondlife | A brief test seems to show this is resolved. |
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| 16:35:38 | crop | pondlife: fine! And thanks! |
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| 16:37:33 | pondlife | Thanks are due to JdGordon, not me |
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| 16:39:11 | crop | pondlife: well, that doesn't need to be said, that's obvious. But for the record: many thanks to JdGordon!!! |
| 16:39:15 | bluebrother | pondlife: we annoyed JdGordon long enough ;-) |
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| 16:39:37 | defreng | hello |
| 16:39:45 | defreng | can I use iboy on an iaudio x5? |
| 16:39:55 | bluebrother | no |
| 16:40:03 | bluebrother | iboy is IPL. |
| 16:40:07 | bluebrother | Rockbox has Rockboy |
| 16:40:08 | crop | Why are there so many warnings in the builds? Why doesn't Bagder scream? |
| 16:40:30 | bluebrother | Slasheri added a #warning because of the recent problems with the scheduler |
| 16:40:32 | crop | Bagder: are you sick? ;-) |
| 16:40:37 | defreng | mmh |
| 16:41:08 | defreng | but I heard rockboy is not really fast? |
| 16:41:19 | bluebrother | cleaning up root_menu.c seems to be worth it ... last fix already gave a green delta |
| 16:41:34 | bluebrother | defreng: maybe. Never really tried it |
| 16:41:47 | defreng | ok, will try it :) |
| 16:41:58 | bluebrother | but it won't change the situation. Feel free to improve Rockboy ;-) |
| 16:42:11 | defreng | are there any big risks when flashing the iaudio with rockbox? |
| 16:42:32 | defreng | when I've learned assembler ;) |
| 16:43:13 | bluebrother | quoting the f(antastic) manual: |
| 16:43:15 | bluebrother | The Iaudio X5 has a builtin boot loader which performs the firmware update, and can also access the hard drive via USB. Therefore the Rockbox bootloader can be very minimalistic, without USB mode. This also makes it less dangerous to install the Rockbox bootloader, as you can always restore it using the Iaudio bootloader. |
| 16:43:31 | defreng | ah, wonderful :) |
| 16:43:37 | defreng | thanks for your help |
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| 16:44:21 | bluebrother | just read the manual −− http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml |
| 16:44:32 | bluebrother | it should cover all important issues |
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| 16:58:37 | spotter | hi again! |
| 16:59:07 | spotter | allright.. i've installed cygwin now and i am currently building rockbox. :) |
| 16:59:57 | spotter | now... for the mod codec, is it this one you guys meant? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5241 |
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| 17:00:12 | nls | yes |
| 17:00:14 | spotter | ok |
| 17:00:16 | spotter | thanx |
| 17:00:37 | spotter | how do i do now? there's some patch i need to apply somewhere? |
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| 17:02:02 | spotter | what should i download? i've got mod_v0.13.patch |
| 17:02:10 | spotter | i guess it should be applied to... |
| 17:02:35 | spotter | hmmm |
| 17:02:39 | nls | the rockbox source? |
| 17:02:54 | spotter | aha ok |
| 17:02:59 | spotter | so that's how it works |
| 17:03:10 | spotter | i thought i had to download some modplayer source from somewhere |
| 17:03:13 | spotter | thanx |
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| 17:08:28 | spotter | strange |
| 17:08:32 | spotter | i am doing this: |
| 17:08:59 | spotter | patch < mod_v0.13.patch |
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| 17:09:09 | spotter | and i've put the patch file in my rockbox dir.. |
| 17:09:16 | spotter | but it can't find the files |
| 17:10:07 | spotter | $ patch < mod_v0.13.patch |
| 17:10:07 | spotter | can't find file to patch at input line 5 |
| 17:10:07 | spotter | Perhaps you should have used the -p or −−strip option? |
| 17:10:07 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK spotter |
| 17:10:07 | spotter | The text leading up to this was: |
| 17:10:07 | spotter | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− |
| 17:10:08 | *** | Alert Mode level 1 |
| 17:10:08 | spotter | |Index: apps/codecs/Makefile |
| 17:10:10 | spotter | |=================================================================== |
| 17:10:12 | spotter | |−−- apps/codecs/Makefile (revision 11977) |
| 17:10:14 | spotter | |+++ apps/codecs/Makefile (working copy) |
| 17:10:16 | spotter | −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−− |
| 17:10:18 | spotter | File to patch: |
| 17:11:05 | linuxstb | Please don't paste more than 2 or 3 lines at once. But it looks like you need "patch -p0 < mod_v0.13.patch" |
| 17:11:20 | spotter | ok thanx |
| 17:11:23 | spotter | will try |
| 17:11:46 | spotter | allright |
| 17:11:49 | spotter | it worked |
| 17:11:51 | spotter | :) |
| 17:13:28 | spotter | i like the build system. really simple and smooth. |
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| 17:24:01 | Ice8lue | hellow |
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| 17:24:43 | Ice8lue | dan_a: how did u fix the screen flickering? |
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| 17:25:50 | spotUP | has anyone here applied the mod patch to the latest sources? |
| 17:27:11 | petur | Ice8lue: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/firmware/target/arm/sandisk/sansa-e200/lcd-e200.c?r1=12847&r2=12848 |
| 17:27:31 | petur | or http://www.rockbox.org/since-4weeks.html 20 Mar 10:52 |
| 17:28:52 | Ice8lue | petur: cool, thx |
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| 17:34:02 | spotUP | i got probs with the patch.. started over.. let's see.. |
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| 17:35:18 | spotUP | btw, why ain't the mod codec in the official release? is it buggy? |
| 17:36:05 | roolku | spotUP: it has a size limt for mod files |
| 17:36:09 | roolku | limit |
| 17:36:17 | spotUP | ok |
| 17:36:54 | spotUP | hmm i get this error with the mod patch.. |
| 17:36:56 | spotUP | mod.c:1887: error: too few arguments to function 'ci->pcmbuf_insert' |
| 17:36:56 | spotUP | make[2]: *** [/home/Ninjabina/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/mod.o] Error 1 |
| 17:36:56 | spotUP | rm /home/Ninjabina/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/codec_crt0.o |
| 17:37:23 | roolku | roolku: let me check if my local copy differs... |
| 17:37:31 | linuxstb | That function was changed recently. You'll need to see how the other codecs were changed (check the svn log) and do the same for that codec. |
| 17:38:22 | spotUP | hmm |
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| 17:40:08 | roolku | spotUP: mod_v0.13.patch works for me |
| 17:40:13 | Ctcp | Ignored 2 channel CTCP requests in 4 minutes and 31 seconds at the last flood |
| 17:40:13 | * | roolku is confused |
| 17:40:15 | spotUP | it does? |
| 17:40:17 | spotUP | hmm |
| 17:40:32 | spotUP | could you please wrap up your sources and dcc me? |
| 17:41:24 | pdedecker | When does Rockbox consider a song to be 'played'? |
| 17:41:34 | pdedecker | When you start it or when it ends? |
| 17:41:46 | linuxstb | pdedecker: Are you talking about the last.fm/scrobbler log? |
| 17:41:50 | roolku | spotUP: I'd rather not, they contain 32 other patches as well :) |
| 17:42:00 | pdedecker | linuxstb: No, the tag database. |
| 17:42:39 | spotUP | roolku ok |
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| 17:42:55 | linuxstb | pdedecker: I don't know the answer - I was just clarifying your question in case someone else does... |
| 17:42:57 | spotUP | is the libdumb based player worse than this mod oner? |
| 17:42:59 | pdedecker | Many of the podcasts I listen to don't get marked as 'played' after they've been played in its entirety. |
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| 17:45:05 | roolku | spotUP: pcmbuf_insert seems to require 3 arguments and this is what the mod player supplies |
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| 17:46:00 | roolku | spotUP: could you check your mod.c file line 945 please? |
| 17:46:05 | spotUP | ok |
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| 17:47:18 | crop | May also non-devs (i.e. mere mortal patchers) come to DevCon? |
| 17:47:19 | spotUP | hah |
| 17:47:27 | spotUP | nano doesn't display line numbers |
| 17:47:37 | spotUP | what editor do you recommend for cygwin? |
| 17:48:04 | roolku | spotUP: it is near the end, should be easy to spot |
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| 17:48:33 | petur | spotUP: you can use any windows editor, notepad2 is small and nice |
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| 17:48:47 | desowin | nano is fine imo |
| 17:49:11 | linuxstb | spotUP: Start nano with "nano -c filename.c" |
| 17:49:21 | GodEater_ | doesn't nano have a "go to line number" function ? |
| 17:49:30 | desowin | ctrl+w, ctrl+t |
| 17:49:37 | linuxstb | "nano +845 mod.c" |
| 17:49:44 | breihanj | control c will also tell you your current line in nano |
| 17:50:04 | GodEater_ | ^_ |
| 17:50:09 | GodEater_ | then a line number |
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| 17:50:34 | GodEater_ | or Ctrl+_ if you prefer |
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| 17:54:02 | spotUP | roolku woops |
| 17:54:12 | spotUP | roolku batteries ran out |
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| 18:19:58 | spotUP | hmm i downloaded the source from the same date as the latest mod codec was released, |
| 18:20:04 | spotUP | and now i got this error: |
| 18:20:29 | spotUP | /home/Ninjabina/rockbox/build/apps/codecs/mod.o: In function `codec_main': |
| 18:20:29 | spotUP | mod.c:(.text+0xbc): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 against `.icode' |
| 18:20:45 | spotUP | mod.c:(.text+0x1c0): relocation truncated to fit: R_ARM_PC24 against `.icode' |
| 18:20:46 | spotUP | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 18:21:06 | spotUP | does the mod plugin work on ipods at all? |
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| 18:28:15 | roolku | spotUP: what is your target? |
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| 19:05:18 | spotUP | roolku, ipod mini 2g |
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| 19:12:17 | amiconn | Hmm, it looks like JdGordon didn't find my report in the logs :/ |
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| 19:56:51 | lostlogic | w00t! trip to Europe! |
| 19:58:39 | Lear | You mean for devcon? |
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| 20:02:25 | lostlogic | yar |
| 20:02:46 | lostlogic | I've been waiting for an excuse to leave the states :-D |
| 20:04:10 | amiconn | Hehe, you'll attend again this year? |
| 20:12:41 | lostlogic | amiconn: yeah, I'll probably use Devcon as a weekend kickoff to a week bouncing around Northern Europe. |
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| 20:17:59 | breihanj | hello |
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| 20:18:30 | breihanj | i was around last night, not sure if anybody saw my messages.. i have a hitachi travelstar microdrive that i've taken out of my zen vision m |
| 20:19:09 | desowin | so far I know rockbox doesn't run on zen vision, but what's the matter breihanj ? |
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| 20:19:15 | breihanj | it's got a hitachi zif connector (different from toshiba) but i'm not certain how to unlock it to remove the cable that plugs from the drive into the zen motherboard |
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| 20:19:41 | breihanj | yeah, some of us are trying to get a port going and i'd like to dump an image off the hd with dd |
| 20:20:26 | breihanj | but i'd like to be know that i can get this creative cable removed properly so that it will be ready to plug into the ide adapter before i buy it |
| 20:20:33 | breihanj | i have some pictures of the interface |
| 20:21:07 | breihanj | http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0028.JPG |
| 20:21:24 | breihanj | and http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0033.JPG |
| 20:21:57 | breihanj | here you can see what the zif connector looks like: |
| 20:21:57 | breihanj | http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0020.JPG |
| 20:22:05 | breihanj | in the first two pictures there's a black square by my thumb |
| 20:22:20 | breihanj | in between that black square and the zif connector it looks like there's something diagonal |
| 20:22:43 | breihanj | i can't tell if it's an actuator that i can hit with a screwdriver to unlock the zif socket |
| 20:22:53 | breihanj | i'm afraid of just jamming a screwdriver in there and breaking a capacitor off the board or something :) |
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| 20:27:15 | toffe82 | hello breihanj , sorry for yesterday but I saw your message too late |
| 20:27:26 | breihanj | no worries |
| 20:28:32 | breihanj | i have the pdf technical drawings that toffe82 found on japan aviation electronics' website (they made the connector) mirrored here: http://halpus.com/hitachi/docs/SJ036880.pdf |
| 20:28:55 | breihanj | hitachi doesn't seem to indicate where the eject mechanism is in their docs |
| 20:29:03 | breihanj | or unlock rather |
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| 20:29:55 | breihanj | unfortunately i am at work right now and don't have the drive on me |
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| 20:31:56 | toffe82 | if the drawing is for this connector, you have to lift the black part |
| 20:32:07 | aduarte | Where is the calendar app in rockbox? |
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| 20:32:27 | aduarte | isn't it in plugins folder? |
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| 20:32:38 | toffe82 | breihanj: look at the drawing at the top right, you have the position close and open |
| 20:33:53 | toffe82 | it looks like you have to put a small screw driver between the whit and black part and lift the black part in dircetion of the hd |
| 20:34:16 | desowin | aduarte: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4760 |
| 20:35:18 | breihanj | toffe82: you are talking about from the top view? |
| 20:35:44 | toffe82 | yes did you see on the drawing the lock mecanism |
| 20:36:10 | breihanj | from the top part there are two places a screwdriver would fit |
| 20:36:28 | aduarte | desowin: Thanks a lot, I was told it was part of the default installation |
| 20:37:01 | toffe82 | breihanj: I think that you can even open it with your nail |
| 20:37:24 | breihanj | in http://halpus.com/hitachi/IMG_0020.JPG do you see the spaces in the black connector above the white connector? |
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| 20:38:05 | breihanj | i still don't see where the lock would be |
| 20:38:11 | toffe82 | yes, it is here in between the white and black part |
| 20:38:22 | breihanj | there is space to put a screwdriver on either side but it didn't appear to do anything when i did |
| 20:38:35 | toffe82 | the black is the lock , if the drawing is for this connector |
| 20:38:57 | breihanj | i dunno if you can see in that picture |
| 20:39:00 | breihanj | but there was a metal piece |
| 20:39:06 | toffe82 | the other thing is , you see on the right of the white part |
| 20:39:18 | breihanj | that was underneath the board that went into where the hole is in the white part, another type of lock |
| 20:39:23 | breihanj | but i just bent that out of the wya |
| 20:39:25 | breihanj | way |
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| 20:39:27 | toffe82 | there is a small white part which seems to be separate |
| 20:39:48 | breihanj | i didn't see that before but i see what you're saying |
| 20:39:52 | breihanj | i think it could be due to lighting |
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| 20:40:10 | toffe82 | this could be the lock also |
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| 20:40:37 | breihanj | the black parts on both sides have to expand out somehow |
| 20:40:41 | breihanj | to unlock the white plug |
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| 20:40:43 | toffe82 | if yes, just pull out in direction of the cable |
| 20:41:01 | breihanj | it won't pull outward because the black part holds it into place |
| 20:41:09 | breihanj | i gave it a bit of a tug and it still didn't come out last night |
| 20:41:17 | breihanj | (luckily the cable appears to still function) |
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| 20:44:12 | toffe82 | try to lift the black part |
| 20:44:31 | toffe82 | normally there is not much resistance |
| 20:45:32 | breihanj | you're saying the black pieces on the sides? lift from where? prying up with a screwdriver had no effect |
| 20:45:52 | breihanj | i dunno if you saw that diagonal thing before from the other view of the drive |
| 20:46:06 | breihanj | it's dark and i can't really see in there well |
| 20:46:16 | breihanj | but in the photos it looks like it could be a release lever |
| 20:46:19 | toffe82 | no the long black piece |
| 20:46:31 | breihanj | i'm also curious as to how this thing gets locked after i put the new cable on |
| 20:46:35 | toffe82 | look the drawing |
| 20:46:58 | toffe82 | top right it show the connector open and closed vue from the side |
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| 20:49:38 | breihanj | are you looking at the pdf i linked? |
| 20:50:31 | breihanj | or the one with the round wheel |
| 20:51:35 | breihanj | must be the wheel one because i see two connectors in the top right on that one.. |
| 20:51:45 | breihanj | the other doc has the closeup of the connectors |
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| 20:53:25 | toffe82 | the link you give this morning |
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| 20:53:47 | toffe82 | brb |
| 20:53:49 | breihanj | ok.. (i can't read this picture very well) |
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| 21:10:37 | bluebrother | roolku: do you have good mod files to test you can distribute (or a link to files)? |
| 21:10:46 | bluebrother | I want to test the mod player on my mini ;-) |
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| 21:17:40 | perl|work | bluebrother |
| 21:17:41 | perl|work | http://scene.org/dir.php?dir=%2Fmusic%2Fgroups%2Fvoodoo/ |
| 21:17:57 | perl|work | good mod group from back in the days :P |
| 21:18:26 | bluebrother | thanks |
| 21:18:32 | preglow | looks like the build servers haven't done the latest commit |
| 21:19:06 | perl|work | might stumble upon an .xm here and there though |
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| 21:24:13 | perl|work | bluebrother |
| 21:24:14 | perl|work | http://www.uprough.net/category/music/ |
| 21:24:26 | perl|work | amusing mod people |
| 21:25:14 | perl|work | let me know if you need more :P |
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| 21:37:46 | amiconn | jhMikeS: Do you have an idea why just changing the variable declaration has such an effect on target binary size? |
| 21:38:55 | amiconn | Eh, seems like a bug in the build table list script |
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| 21:39:40 | * | amiconn guesses the reason for the size increase is Nico_P's commit - but that one doesn't appear from the links in the table |
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| 21:46:42 | mirshafie | hello. anyone know if 2nd gen ipod nanos will be supported by rockbox any time soon? |
| 21:47:10 | nls | no, they will not (most likely) |
| 21:47:46 | mirshafie | how come? any specific reason? |
| 21:48:07 | nls | because no one has ported rockbox to it |
| 21:48:20 | mirshafie | ok |
| 21:48:25 | bluebrother | the 2nd gen nanos are completely different from all other ipods |
| 21:48:46 | bluebrother | and, to make it even harder, the firmware is completely encrypted. |
| 21:48:56 | bluebrother | which makes a port highly unlikely |
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| 21:49:58 | mirshafie | that's too bad. rockbox looks really cool. |
| 21:50:29 | linuxstb | You could always sell your Nano... ;) |
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| 21:52:13 | mirshafie | linuxstb: just bought it a few days ago :) i guess i could get a 30 GB ipod instead... :-/ |
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| 21:57:35 | perl|work | linuxstb have you tried to encode the videos with winFF and compare results quality/size/sync wise with vls for example? |
| 21:57:47 | perl|work | vlc* |
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| 21:59:30 | linuxstb | perl|work: No. I'm hoping others will sort out the encoding side of the equation. |
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| 22:01:41 | perl|work | linuxstb, yeah i guess i need to ask llorean, he did a lot of testing it seems |
| 22:01:59 | linuxstb | Doesn't vlc use ffmpeg? |
| 22:02:36 | preglow | yes |
| 22:02:54 | roolku | bluebrother: if you still want a mod here is an 8 channel one |
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| 22:03:13 | bluebrother | sec, phone |
| 22:03:42 | perl|work | so basically there shouldn't be any difference then |
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| 22:08:41 | jhMikeS | amiconn: that is odd especially since the change was only in a coldfire file. I agree it seems like a bug. |
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| 22:10:32 | jhMikeS | I mean, it should be unsigned long after preprocessing anyway |
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| 22:11:38 | midgey34 | jhMikeS: Nico_P's commit didnt register a build |
| 22:12:22 | jhMikeS | ah, that's what that meant |
| 22:12:36 | amiconn | Yeah, for some strange reason, and his commit doesn't appear when clicking the diff links to the left of the build table or size table |
| 22:13:17 | Bagder | weirdness |
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| 22:23:35 | roolku | x1jmp: are you here? |
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| 22:30:00 | eatnumber1 | if a dev is here, I created a patch for my ipod nano so I could set it to 300mah, and after one full discharge, it seems to be reporting remaining battery life correctly |
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| 22:30:42 | Bagder | but surely it isn't 300mah? |
| 22:32:00 | eatnumber1 | no, it's definatley either 300 or 340 |
| 22:32:32 | eatnumber1 | I had that discussion last night... let me find the link |
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| 22:33:06 | eatnumber1 | Bagder, http://ipodbatteryfaq.com/ipodbatteryandpower.html |
| 22:33:12 | eatnumber1 | that site says 300mah |
| 22:33:14 | eatnumber1 | some say 340 |
| 22:33:28 | eatnumber1 | 300 seems to be perfectly accurate for me tho |
| 22:36:16 | eatnumber1 | meh, guess no devs are on... oh well, of to class |
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| 22:40:05 | x3jmp | roolku: yes, did you find out something about the scrollbug? |
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| 22:49:47 | roolku | x1jmp: not really, I am just doing a fresh build with only the style patch to see if it happens then... |
| 22:50:22 | roolku | x1jmp: I am more concerned why I don't get my *.oft files back (which I deleted after renaming the index files) |
| 22:50:45 | x1jmp | roolku: you said the bug happened even before the style functions were added... |
| 22:51:13 | roolku | x1jmp: I did? |
| 22:51:19 | * | roolku goes looking |
| 22:51:32 | x1jmp | roolku: not now, but you reported it :) |
| 22:52:50 | x1jmp | roolku: are the .oft files really missing? As you wrote in the tracker it doesn't find your .idx files |
| 22:52:51 | roolku | I mean they look the same as the one caused by http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6747 |
| 22:53:47 | roolku | yes (I deleted them and just checked to confirm) |
| 22:54:11 | petur | anybody with rootmenu knowledge around? |
| 22:54:40 | x1jmp | Ahh, now I understand! As you mentioned the "scrollbug" I thought about the distorded screen after scrolling/opening the menu :) |
| 22:55:16 | roolku | x1jmp: no, the .idx files are fine. but the error splash complains : "Failed to open Index" and then the plugin quits with "plugin error" |
| 22:56:32 | roolku | this happens after I have typed a search in the virtual keyboard and pressed power |
| 22:56:44 | x1jmp | roolku: I was using the y-margin patch from 6796, which was rejected, I think I have forgotten to remove it in one patch when switching back to setting the margin manually |
| 22:58:04 | x1jmp | roolku: "Failed to open index" means the .idx file couldn't be opened. What's the name of that .idx? |
| 22:59:14 | roolku | dewiki.idx and enwiki.idx |
| 22:59:31 | petur | hmmm isn't root_menu supposed to go through MENU_ATTACHED_USB after detaching USB? |
| 22:59:32 | roolku | I didn't expect them to be opened only after the search was entered |
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| 23:00:02 | roolku | x1jmp: let me try your latest incarnation |
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| 23:10:09 | spotUP | hi |
| 23:11:07 | spotUP | has anyone built the modplayer for ipod mini g2? |
| 23:11:49 | markun | spotUP: probably not |
| 23:12:05 | roolku | spotUP: I can dcc it if you want (bluebrother has) |
| 23:12:21 | * | bluebrother comes back |
| 23:12:22 | markun | spotUP, roolku: ok, I'll shut up then :) |
| 23:12:33 | bluebrother | roolku, the file you dcc'ed me works fine on my mini 2g |
| 23:13:56 | roolku | bluebrother: good. it might not be the most complex one, but I figured 8chn mixing must require more power than 4 channels |
| 23:15:27 | roolku | spotUP: I tried dcc, but it timed out |
| 23:15:44 | spotUP | hey hey!! |
| 23:15:48 | spotUP | hi roolku |
| 23:16:03 | spotUP | i just found the solution! |
| 23:16:08 | spotUP | check this thread! |
| 23:16:21 | spotUP | http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9123.0;prev_next=next |
| 23:16:37 | spotUP | does anyone know the author of the mod patch? |
| 23:17:06 | petur | check the tracker where you got the patch ;) |
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| 23:17:37 | roolku | spotUP: yes, that might be the better solution |
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| 23:17:52 | * | roolku tries |
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| 23:20:40 | roolku | x1jmp: clean svn with your patch works nicely...let me try my patched version |
| 23:20:49 | bluebrother | roolku, your mod plays with less than 30% boost ratio. Nice :) |
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| 23:23:07 | spotUP | can anyone recommend a good editor for windows? |
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| 23:28:01 | XavierGr | notepad2, fast, small and full of features for not so heavy users |
| 23:28:16 | XavierGr | and seemless transition from original windows notepad |
| 23:28:21 | markun | Is there anyone here using voice files with rockbox, generated by eSpeak? |
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| 23:33:09 | spotUP | roolku ah i am not used to using nano and windows, everything takes forever here. |
| 23:33:28 | spotUP | could you dcc me your modified version, if/when you are done? |
| 23:33:45 | toffe82 | pspad is not so bad also , long to start but after ok |
| 23:34:05 | roolku | spotUP: yes. I am trying the gigabeat first though - did you try the one I dcced already? |
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| 23:39:02 | spotUP | nope. |
| 23:39:08 | spotUP | i'll try it now. |
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| 23:41:46 | spotUP | oh it was compiled already. |
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| 23:41:53 | spotUP | i'll smack it in now. |
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| 23:52:29 | spotUP | roolku hmm strange. i am using your build now. it boots fine. |
| 23:52:42 | spotUP | but when i browse my mod/ dir, i see no files. |
| 23:52:42 | roolku | but? |
| 23:52:55 | spotUP | i have named some blah.mod and some mod.blah |
| 23:52:59 | spotUP | still no luck |
| 23:53:02 | * | petur wonders if he should store the last known bootfile size and startcluster in the settings to avoid the diskread at startup (rolo on bootfile change fix) |
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| 23:53:41 | spotUP | mp3's show up though. |
| 23:54:35 | roolku | spotUP: hm, might have sent the wrong file? could you check if there is mod codec in the codec directory |
| 23:54:52 | spotUP | there is |
| 23:55:36 | roolku | and you have copied the whole contents of the rockbox.zip (including the rockbox.ipod)? |
| 23:55:57 | amiconn | petur: This would make rockbox falsely detect a bootfile change (with subsequent reboot question) if rockbox was changed in bootloader usb or OF usb |
| 23:55:58 | spotUP | aaaaah |
| 23:56:02 | spotUP | that must be the problem |
| 23:56:12 | spotUP | it uses my rockbox.ipod that's in the root |
| 23:56:16 | spotUP | will change it now |
| 23:56:21 | petur | amiconn: true |
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| 23:57:27 | petur | hmmmm I could do the scan just before usb connect iso at startup |
| 23:58:11 | amiconn | ? |
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| 23:58:34 | petur | before accepting the usb connect |
| 23:58:47 | petur | disk has to spin up anyway |
| 23:58:48 | amiconn | There is a reason why early usb is called early usb |
| 23:58:55 | spotUP | roolku !!! \o/ where do i send the beer?! :D It wooorks! |
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