| 00:00:22 | amiconn | The LineBreak table could be collapsed and searched with binary search(as there are long runs of characters having the same properties; some kind of run-length compression) |
| 00:01:00 | markun | yes, that could help a lot |
| 00:01:07 | markun | nice idea |
| 00:05:09 | amiconn | I.e. just store the first (codepoint; property) pair of a run in the table. The binary search would then compare the tested value against the probe and its successor, forming an interval |
| 00:05:53 | amiconn | Since the mapping can't have gaps, all values from codepoint[probe] to codepoint[probe+1]-1 must have identical properties |
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| 00:06:18 | amiconn | But that still sounds complicated... |
| 00:09:44 | markun | amiconn: I just calculated that this table would have 1646 entries |
| 00:10:06 | amiconn | Is that for the BMP only, or the full table? |
| 00:10:33 | markun | I did a run-length compression for the whole table |
| 00:11:21 | markun | cat LineBreak.txt | cut -d ";" -f 2 | cut -b 1,2 | uniq -c | wc -l |
| 00:11:25 | markun | :) |
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| 00:11:54 | markun | removed all the comments from the start and end |
| 00:12:00 | markun | first |
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| 00:13:59 | markun | there is a very large part with H2, H3, H2, H3, H2, ... |
| 00:16:09 | markun | amiconn: http://130.89.160.166/line-break-rle.txt |
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| 00:20:38 | amiconn | The run counts in your list aren't correct, because the text sometimes specifies ranges (AAAA..BBBB) |
| 00:20:47 | markun | ah ok |
| 00:21:11 | amiconn | And the long alternating H2/H3 list is caused by hangul |
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| 00:22:00 | markun | amiconn: but the number of entries should be correct, right? |
| 00:22:27 | markun | I'm trying to do a RLE per 2 lines now |
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| 00:25:38 | amiconn | Yes, the number of entries should be correct. And the characters above the BMP only contribute 33 lines... |
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| 00:27:02 | amiconn | Hangul H2/H3 looks like a quite regular pattern. If this would be handled by a separate code block, the whole H2/h3 streak could be collapsed into a single line |
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| 00:31:00 | markun | does anyone know a command to remove the newline after every uneven line? |
| 00:31:17 | markun | Bagder: you maybe? |
| 00:31:27 | Bagder | I'd write a tiny perl/awk thing to do it |
| 00:32:00 | markun | don't want to learn either right now :) |
| 00:32:14 | Bagder | ok, gimme a minute |
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| 00:34:39 | Bagder | awk '{ n++; if(n%1) {printf("%s", $0)} else { printf("%s\n", $0);} }' < input |
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| 00:35:51 | Bagder | uhm, %2 I guess |
| 00:36:01 | Bagder | it complained when I tried &1 |
| 00:36:15 | markun | that work, thanks |
| 00:36:22 | markun | worked |
| 00:42:14 | markun | amiconn: not sure if it will work so well with 'bi-grams' http://130.89.160.166/line-break-rle2.txt |
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| 00:50:31 | petur | Bagder: did you see http://groups.google.com/group/google-summer-of-code-announce/browse_thread/thread/32384eb8d956800a/ece41e03020fec27#ece41e03020fec27 ? |
| 00:52:32 | petur | I somehow don't manage to get on that mentor list, my registration is still pending :/ |
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| 00:53:53 | Bagder | the mentor list says nothing of interest anyway |
| 00:55:33 | scorche | i am constantly on that IRC channel, so if there are interesting tidbits, i usually forward them to someone |
| 00:56:03 | Bagder | if there's something google should improve on the gsoc, it is their (lack of) communication |
| 00:56:29 | Bagder | they create weird lists, groups and IRC channels where various things are posted seemlingly randomly |
| 00:56:35 | Llorean | Well it sounds like there's a lot of work being done by a very few people. |
| 00:56:55 | Llorean | Maybe next year I'll see if they'll let me help. ;) |
| 00:56:56 | scorche | 3 main...yeah |
| 00:57:09 | Bagder | yes, but I get the feeling that I very well might miss something just because I don't know where all the info appears |
| 00:57:32 | Llorean | Yeah, there should be a single official source of important things, with logs of the IRC channel prominently posted, I think |
| 00:57:33 | scorche | Bagder: well, i typically catch the stuff...(and forward to Llorean) |
| 00:57:43 | * | petur monitors http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=-qxj3hAAAABDGQcUpoa3IBWDm4h2cJBN |
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| 00:58:13 | scorche | yeah...she is the main person it seems |
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| 01:03:28 | Llorean | It sounds like the Groups aren't working for Google either |
| 01:03:32 | Llorean | That "more information" post isn't there |
| 01:03:45 | Llorean | Instead there's an "Oops my post disappeared, I'll repost it later this evening, /me kicks groups" style post |
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| 01:09:34 | Bagder | ok, I've now made the applications appear sorted in the order the committers have voted for them |
| 01:10:29 | Bagder | now I really need to sleep... |
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| 01:13:40 | billytwowilly | what's the url for the list of updated/added thing to rockbox in cvs? |
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| 01:13:56 | Llorean | billytwowilly: The front page of the site? |
| 01:14:21 | billytwowilly | no, there's a wiki page that is manually updated with more info. |
| 01:14:32 | billytwowilly | someone pointed me to it in here a week or two ago and I've lost the link. |
| 01:14:39 | Llorean | The MajorChanges wiki page? |
| 01:14:43 | Llorean | That's not really tied to SVN updated. |
| 01:14:46 | billytwowilly | maybe that's it. |
| 01:14:46 | Llorean | Just general significant changes. |
| 01:14:54 | Llorean | There is no manual page tied to SVN updates. |
| 01:14:55 | billytwowilly | that's what I'm looking for I think. |
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| 01:15:12 | billytwowilly | and it's in documentation. thanks. |
| 01:15:12 | petur | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/MajorChanges |
| 01:15:19 | billytwowilly | thanks. |
| 01:15:45 | billytwowilly | oooh! file rebuffering. neat! |
| 01:15:47 | billytwowilly | ;) |
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| 01:18:52 | bluebrother | ... and that page is linked from the frontpage as "changelog" :) |
| 01:19:09 | Juice^ | playback of mpegs on the sansa, using the latest build, is acting strange on audio playback.. sounds like electronic noise is all over the sound, same on 3 videos i got, which plays fine on a earlier build |
| 01:19:38 | Llorean | Juice^: This has been reported since some time ago. |
| 01:19:51 | Juice^ | Llorean: ok, good to know. thanks |
| 01:20:01 | Llorean | In fact the cause is already known |
| 01:20:07 | Llorean | It's just a little awkward to solve properly, I believe |
| 01:20:22 | Juice^ | Allright |
| 01:20:49 | Stalwart | sandisk should pay for such advertisement =P |
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| 01:21:15 | Stalwart | every time i switch to #rockbox buffer to check what's going on i see "sansa" on scren |
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| 01:21:58 | Stalwart | but i'm still fine with my old nano ^_^ |
| 01:22:15 | Stalwart | latest rockbox builds are pretty stable and well featured |
| 01:22:21 | Stalwart | good work! |
| 01:22:37 | Stalwart | gnite everyone |
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| 01:39:09 | Rainbyte | hi |
| 01:42:35 | Rainbyte | Llorean, can you recognize something in this picture? |
| 01:42:36 | Rainbyte | http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5743/dsc00001fi4.jpg |
| 01:50:37 | petur | blurry pic shows rockchip IC and what looks like an SD slot |
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| 01:51:33 | nicolah | how do I turn off the ipod using rockbox ? |
| 01:52:03 | markun | nicolah: did you check the ipod faq in the wiki? |
| 01:52:23 | nicolah | no, I did not. I will |
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| 01:52:41 | markun | don't know if it's in there (but I think it should) |
| 01:54:20 | nicolah | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodFAQ |
| 01:54:26 | nicolah | there isn't |
| 01:54:53 | Llorean | It's not in the main manual either? |
| 01:55:28 | nicolah | (checking) |
| 01:56:01 | nicolah | done, thanks guys |
| 01:56:04 | nicolah | sorry to be this lame |
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| 02:02:20 | petur | lame aint a manual examiner |
| 02:02:34 | Llorean | Augh, recursive acronyms! |
| 02:02:54 | * | petur just gets bored waiting for cygwin |
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| 02:03:09 | markun | nicolah: we just had to point you in the right direction and you found the answer yourself, so no problem |
| 02:03:41 | nicolah | I have to recognize that you have *great* documentation |
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| 02:15:08 | bryandodson | hey guys, i was looking at a wps file that was not showing any track info, and noticed a %e tag with a bunch of modifiers after it... is that something that was deprecated? i cant find any info on it |
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| 02:16:23 | bryandodson | nobody? |
| 02:17:27 | Soap | are you sure the track is tagged? |
| 02:18:22 | bryandodson | yeah, im sure. i've tried it on more than one song. and more than one theme. |
| 02:18:27 | Llorean | %e doesn't exist |
| 02:18:36 | Llorean | It's probably just unofficial, not deprecated. |
| 02:18:57 | bryandodson | it was in the JBlackGlass theme... if anyone wants to check that out and fill me in |
| 02:19:07 | Llorean | That's a theme that requires patches. |
| 02:19:20 | bryandodson | i see. |
| 02:19:52 | Soap | so it's only that theme where the info doesn't show up? |
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| 02:19:59 | bryandodson | yeah |
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| 02:23:01 | Soap | compare and contrast BlackGlass to JBlackGlass to see what needs changed. |
| 02:24:10 | nicktastic | Is aac supported on iAudio X5? |
| 02:25:56 | Llorean | As supported as it is anywhere else in Rockbox. |
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| 02:28:18 | nicktastic | Well, I've read in several places that rockbox does support aac on some platforms, so that would be yes then? It is supported on X5? |
| 02:28:24 | nicktastic | dammit |
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| 02:28:56 | nicktastic | Well, I've read in several places that rockbox does support aac on some platforms, so that would be yes then? It is supported on X5? |
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| 02:29:48 | Llorean | Yes, though support for AAC is imperfect. |
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| 02:31:08 | nicktastic | Do I need to do anything special to make it work? I encoded a wav with faac, put it on my X5, browsed to it, selected it, but nothing happens, it won't pla |
| 02:31:10 | nicktastic | y |
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| 02:31:34 | nicktastic | Does it need to be m4a or something? |
| 02:38:59 | Llorean | If you can see it in the browser, it should be alright. |
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| 02:39:22 | Llorean | But as I said, it's not perfect. There are a lot of conditions under which the files may not work. |
| 02:40:01 | Ctcp | Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
| 02:40:01 | * | moos KISSES musepack ;-) |
| 02:42:44 | Rainbyte | Llorean, my mp4: |
| 02:42:45 | Rainbyte | http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5743/dsc00001fi4.jpg |
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| 02:53:15 | nicktastic | Llorean: I see, thanks for the info |
| 02:53:52 | nicktastic | moos: Is musepack a good choice for low bitrates (64kbit)? |
| 02:55:31 | moos | not that's the contrario, mpc is better at "high" bitrates |
| 02:55:43 | Llorean | AuToV tuned Vorbis is good for low bitrates |
| 02:55:51 | moos | indeed |
| 02:56:24 | nicktastic | Thanks! |
| 02:56:36 | moos | nickstatic: don't you bother about sound quality? maybe you don't have as much storage on your dap? |
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| 02:57:44 | nicktastic | moos: I encode most at ~256kbit vorbis, but I have some lectures which are huge at 128kbit |
| 02:57:57 | nicktastic | And I am space-constrained on my player |
| 02:58:03 | moos | ok |
| 02:58:48 | * | moos doesn't likes vorbis much on DAPs cause it's ressources hungry |
| 02:59:02 | Llorean | nicktastic: For lectures or speech, you should use Speex |
| 02:59:27 | Llorean | 32kbps, 16khz mono and it sounds quite good. You can probably do less than that. |
| 02:59:52 | nicktastic | Llorean: These are lectures on music, so there are clips of orchestras playing, etc. Is speex still a good choice? |
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| 03:00:01 | Llorean | Ah, not so much |
| 03:00:06 | nicktastic | (Although that is very good to know for the non-music ones) |
| 03:00:33 | Llorean | Speex will still work if you don't need high fidelity during the music, but quality won't be as good as say 64kbps vorbis. Still, definitely make sure you encode in Mono unless there's a *need* for stereo, I'd say |
| 03:00:54 | * | nicktastic nods |
| 03:06:53 | Febs | Or use an encoder that takes advantage of joint stereo, like LAME. |
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| 03:07:17 | Febs | (I should say mid-side stereo.) |
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| 03:11:15 | Febs | Just as an example, I have a series of lectures that I encoded in LAME's -V5 setting. This setting has a target bitrate of ~135kbps. When encoding lectures consisting mostly of speech, however, they end up at under 90 kbps average. |
| 03:14:27 | * | nicktastic reads about joint frequency encoding |
| 03:14:52 | Febs | nicktastic, be aware that there is a lot of MISinformation about joint encoding floating around. |
| 03:16:48 | Rincewind | the most important misinformation is about quality. Joint stereo is in no way worse than normal stereo |
| 03:16:53 | Febs | This is a good explanation: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Joint_stereo |
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| 03:17:50 | nicktastic | thanks :) |
| 03:18:18 | Febs | nicktastic: no problem. Just out of curiosity, what are the music lectures you are encoding? |
| 03:19:43 | nicktastic | Robert Greenberg's High Baroque and Great Masters |
| 03:20:02 | nicktastic | or whatever its called |
| 03:20:31 | nicktastic | TTC |
| 03:20:38 | Febs | Those are excellent. I have the "How to Listen to Great Music" series. |
| 03:20:43 | Febs | Also by Greenberg. |
| 03:21:41 | nicktastic | Yes he is a gifted orator :) |
| 03:23:57 | nicktastic | Daniel N. Robinson also stands out |
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| 03:38:27 | donutman25 | how do i change pitch on sansa e200? |
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| 05:30:44 | piratedninja | hi everyone just got a quick question for you |
| 05:31:15 | piratedninja | if i put rockbox on my sansa e200 how can i remove it or go back to the original firmware? |
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| 05:34:17 | hpeeze | if i put rockbox on my sansa e200 how can i remove it or go back to the original firmware? |
| 05:36:32 | angusthefuzz | use the sansapatcher and hit the 'u' key when it asks |
| 05:36:50 | angusthefuzz | or power on the player while pressing hte |<< key |
| 05:37:31 | hpeeze | where can i get the sansapatcher? |
| 05:39:08 | angusthefuzz | just read the manual for the sansa port of rockbox |
| 05:39:10 | angusthefuzz | its all in there |
| 05:39:24 | hpeeze | ok |
| 05:39:27 | hpeeze | thanks |
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| 05:40:58 | scubacoles | Hi all, anyone compiling in MacOS? I'm struggling with setup... |
| 05:43:32 | angusthefuzz | The new build of the sansa e200 port corrupts the topmost line of pixels on my player for both the rockbox and factory firmware. This is not the case when only the factory firmware is installed. |
| 05:43:56 | angusthefuzz | I wondered if anyone has seen this problem before |
| 05:52:06 | hpeeze | does it go back to normal if u go back to the orignal firmware and remove rockbox? |
| 05:52:23 | angusthefuzz | yes |
| 05:52:30 | hpeeze | ok |
| 05:52:47 | hpeeze | try getting an older build and see what happens |
| 05:55:26 | angusthefuzz | i am hesitant because it has been out for such a short time, great updates are made each day |
| 05:55:42 | angusthefuzz | i just wanted to see if i was the only one with the problem or if this is a known issue |
| 05:56:17 | hpeeze | im getting ready to try it out on my sansa right now |
| 05:56:27 | hpeeze | so i'll let u know what happens in the next 5-10minutes |
| 05:56:27 | angusthefuzz | great, let me know! |
| 05:56:47 | angusthefuzz | what model do you have? |
| 05:57:01 | angusthefuzz | i have an e280 with the new scroll wheel design |
| 05:57:15 | angusthefuzz | (in case the scroll wheel design matters) |
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| 05:58:39 | hpeeze | i have the e260 (older model) |
| 05:59:00 | hpeeze | got it right before the newer rapsody versions were released |
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| 06:03:22 | hpeeze | got it running on here now |
| 06:03:38 | hpeeze | and it seems to be working just fine |
| 06:03:57 | angusthefuzz | the top row is not missing most of the pixels? |
| 06:04:15 | hpeeze | no |
| 06:04:38 | angusthefuzz | ya, im gunna need to wait for a developer, maybe it only affects the newer models, I just got my player |
| 06:04:40 | hpeeze | the numbers for the time are touching the very top of the screen |
| 06:04:44 | hpeeze | if thats what u mean |
| 06:04:58 | angusthefuzz | no, i cant read half the numbers |
| 06:05:06 | hpeeze | oh |
| 06:05:15 | hpeeze | no im not having that problem on mine |
| 06:05:24 | hpeeze | i can fully see the numbers |
| 06:05:26 | angusthefuzz | the top row is gone except for a few white pixels in the left corner |
| 06:06:01 | hpeeze | nope dont have that on my sansa |
| 06:06:13 | angusthefuzz | :-\ |
| 06:06:15 | hpeeze | and i have the latest build |
| 06:06:59 | hpeeze | do you know how to make it go up 1 line in the menu when i click the wheel foward 1 click? |
| 06:07:18 | hpeeze | it moves up or down 2 lines at a time per click of the wheel |
| 06:07:26 | angusthefuzz | mine just does that, hmmm |
| 06:13:15 | hpeeze | does anyone know how to reboot a frozen sansa e200? |
| 06:13:28 | hpeeze | without taking the battery out |
| 06:14:44 | angusthefuzz | holding down the power button for a while worked for me |
| 06:14:51 | hpeeze | nvm i figured it out |
| 06:15:12 | hpeeze | i held down the center button and the powerbutton at the same time for about 5seconds |
| 06:15:16 | hpeeze | and it worked |
| 06:18:17 | hpeeze | WOW rockbox has games? WOOT |
| 06:18:32 | hpeeze | finally something to keep me busy during those boring COM lectures |
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| 06:34:02 | aliask | Anyone know much about the way that new menus are created (specifically MENUITEM_STRINGLIST)? |
| 06:39:55 | hpeeze | why do i get "one of the usb devices not recognized..." when i plug in the usb cable? |
| 06:40:13 | aliask | Which target? |
| 06:41:39 | hpeeze | what do u mean which target? |
| 06:41:43 | aliask | hpeeze: What mp3 player do you have. |
| 06:42:29 | hpeeze | sansa e260 |
| 06:43:20 | aliask | Hrm, not exactly sure how USB works on those player, but I think it just uses the original firmware's usb function. |
| 06:43:39 | aliask | Does the usb work fine when you plug it in while it's in the sansa firmware? |
| 06:44:36 | hpeeze | u just plug in the usb cord and it shows the drive as a removable drive |
| 06:45:11 | aliask | I'll take that as a yes then. If I were you I'd just use the original firmware for usb until we get a working USB stack in the rockbox code. |
| 06:46:24 | hpeeze | i cant use the original firmware if i cant get into usb mode to remove rockbox |
| 06:46:57 | aliask | Have you read the manual? |
| 06:47:33 | hpeeze | yes |
| 06:48:47 | aliask | Oh that's right, the sansa is one of those ones which can't dual boot... hrm that's a difficult situation then. i think you should wait until someone who actually knows something about the sansa comes around. |
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| 06:49:49 | hpeeze | ok |
| 06:50:14 | hpeeze | do you know how i can get into the recovery mode? |
| 06:50:29 | hpeeze | ive heard something about it but dont know how to get into it |
| 06:51:25 | aliask | Sorry, no idea. |
| 06:52:29 | hpeeze | i got it into usb mode |
| 06:52:32 | hpeeze | WOOT! |
| 06:52:48 | hpeeze | just turned the player off and plugged in the usb cord and it worked |
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| 07:21:22 | hpeeze | does anyone know where i can get more rockbox themes for my sansa e200? |
| 07:23:21 | hpeeze | nvm found em |
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| 07:43:34 | hpeeze | is there a way i can increase the font size on my sansa e200? |
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| 08:17:36 | Zendefera | hi guys, so I haven't updated my ipod in like 8 months, so I might have forgotten something. I downloaded the current build, unzipped it, copied the .rockbox dir over the old one, and copied the rockbox.ipod over the oldone... I put my english.voice in the lang dir, and restarted my ipod. I am not getting any speech any ideas? |
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| 08:31:17 | lex | maybe there's a new version of english.voice |
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| 08:33:24 | amiconn | Zendefera: If you didn't update for so long, it is likely that you need to update the bootloader as well |
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| 08:55:48 | kkurbjun | amiconn: was tehre somethign wrong with my commit that broke the build servers? |
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| 08:56:42 | kkurbjun | Bagder are you around? |
| 08:57:09 | amiconn | Looks like Bagder added a new build server which isn't quite up to the task yet |
| 08:57:45 | amiconn | Unfortunately it seems to be located close to the master, and failing a build is very fast. So it failed lots of builds :( |
| 08:59:06 | kkurbjun | ahh, well at least it wasn't me then. I need to sleep now. Thanks for the information amiconn. |
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| 09:11:28 | Bagder | should be fixed now |
| 09:11:41 | Bagder | but I'll remove it for now since I won't be around until tonight |
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| 09:46:02 | posingaspopular | hi i was wondering if there was anyway to get rockbox to work well between a windows XP sp2 install and a kubuntu 6.10 install. from my understanding the bootloader is different for the different OS'. |
| 09:47:04 | lex | how did you manage to install windows xp and kubuntu into a mp3 player? :o |
| 09:48:14 | posingaspopular | lex: your guess is as good as mine. i should add that im using a 30 gig video ipod |
| 09:48:37 | lex | so you have installed xp and kubuntu into your ipod's hd? |
| 09:49:18 | posingaspopular | lex: no i mean i want to put music on the ipod from two differnt computers, with two different OS types |
| 09:49:34 | lex | and there comes the question, at last |
| 09:49:47 | posingaspopular | lex: sorry im slow |
| 09:50:12 | lex | it depends on what program you're using to transfer the music |
| 09:51:49 | posingaspopular | songbird on windows/amorak on kubuntu |
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| 10:02:59 | scorche | well, that is a bit out of the scope of this channel, as this channel deals with rockbox and not programs to sync...the file browser works fine in both OSs ;) |
| 10:04:30 | posingaspopular | scorche: thanks, that's all i really needed to know i guess |
| 10:04:39 | posingaspopular | i'll pop back in here if i have any issues |
| 10:18:38 | Rob2222 | Hi all. Can it be, that the actual iPod Video version doesnt run with a ipod Video bootloader older than 1/2 year? |
| 10:19:39 | midkay | Rob2222: yes, some updates took place that pretty much require you to use a rather new bootloader. |
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| 10:54:45 | Rob2222 | hmm, ok thx. then i just have to look how 2 update the bl |
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| 12:04:24 | cadu | hello, i'm charging the (toshiba gigabeat f) via USB, can i USE it while charging ? (wanna listen to some songs) |
| 12:05:04 | bluebrother | cadu: just tried it ... I don't know the Gigabeat but other devices can do this. |
| 12:06:04 | bluebrother | err, just try it. Haven't tried it myself (for reasons I said ;-) |
| 12:06:53 | cadu | the only button that 'works' is Power, that turns off the unit :( |
| 12:07:08 | cadu | i wanna know if there's a way to do it...like holding something while powering up etc |
| 12:07:31 | Overand | on the iPod, you hold the 'menu' button while you insert the usb gizmo |
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| 12:19:56 | stripwax | Hi. So I've never really dabbled much with writing my own WPS, but I think there's a bug. The 'next track' tag doesn't seem to scroll. Is this expected behaviour or has the WPS tokenizer rewrite broken this? |
| 12:20:12 | stripwax | e.g. %s%?It<%It|> doesn't ever seem to scroll |
| 12:20:50 | stripwax | reproducible using a long track title in Unicatcher wps on latest svn build by the way |
| 12:24:01 | bluebrother | stripwax: it should scroll like all other lines ... |
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| 12:24:46 | bluebrother | I guess that is caused by the tokenizer −− guess you'll ask NicoP best. |
| 12:24:58 | stripwax | bluebrother - I'd have thought so too. I've added to the WPS Tokenizer - Report Bugs Here thread. |
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| 12:54:00 | AceNik_ | hey blue brother check pvt |
| 12:54:11 | cadu | now a question about battery |
| 12:54:23 | cadu | all these hard drive based players use Li-Ion as their batteries, right |
| 12:54:35 | cadu | i wanna ask you guys what's the common discharge rate for these batteries..... |
| 12:54:35 | stripwax | Hm, looks like the problem might be that the next track info continually updates, so it's always being reset to zero-offset scroll position |
| 12:54:45 | bluebrother | most. The archos players have different ones |
| 12:55:05 | cadu | like, if my batt is at 70% and i leave the player 2 days (48h) resting and turn it on, what battery level should i expect ?! |
| 12:55:11 | stripwax | (just from running in gdb. looks like I always hit write_line, all the time) |
| 12:55:34 | cadu | i'm studying a case where my players batt may be dying a slow death :P |
| 12:55:44 | bluebrother | AceNik_: no. I disabled messages from unregistered users again. |
| 12:56:58 | AceNik_ | well i figured out the problem , its a sytem file .dat file , its encrypted , its 1KB can u help , cause this file when deleted , makes it start again, but when the player shutsdown doesnt start again cause this file is formed again |
| 12:57:02 | stripwax | Does anyone apart from NicoP really understand the difference between WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC and WPS_REFRESH_STATIC .. ? |
| 12:57:28 | * | bluebrother goes looking around for his ignore command ... |
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| 13:03:04 | stripwax | never mind. details here. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=9727.15 |
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| 13:09:34 | amiconn | stripwax: WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC and WPS_REFRESH_STATIC existed well before the tokenizer patch |
| 13:10:06 | stripwax | amiconn - understood, but how do I interpret their meaning. |
| 13:10:24 | stripwax | e.g. why is 'next album artist' static but 'next album track' dynamic |
| 13:10:42 | amiconn | Sounds like a mistake |
| 13:10:58 | amiconn | Afaik, static refresh data is only refreshed at track changes |
| 13:11:30 | stripwax | right. which I think is what I suggested in the above link |
| 13:11:49 | amiconn | So next track info needs to be dynamic on hwcodec devices, b/c it often changes between tracks (cause it isn't available until the beginning of the next track enters the buffer) |
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| 13:11:56 | stripwax | because 'next album track' is dynamic, it gets updated all the time continuously, so it never actually gets a chance to scroll |
| 13:12:05 | stripwax | oh. hm. |
| 13:12:41 | amiconn | Scrolling next track info worked before the tokenizer afaik (don't use it in my wps'es) |
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| 13:14:58 | stripwax | amiconn - thanks, I'm pretty sure it used to work before the tokenizer too. Although now it's less clear to me what the fix should be - next track info needs to be dynamic for hwcodec but static for swcodec? or the dynamic refresh needs to be fixed in the new gwps code so that if the text doesn't change it doesn't try to puts_scroll the same text (which resets the scrolling offset continually)? or something else? |
| 13:15:46 | amiconn | Well, new scrolling code will allow to choose whether new scroll text will reset the scrolling position or not |
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| 13:17:56 | stripwax | amiconn - ? Are you suggesting that new options need to be added to puts_scroll? Or is the new scrolling code something that's already available? (but this worked before the tokenizer, right ..?) |
| 13:18:12 | amiconn | No, it's not yet available |
| 13:18:23 | amiconn | The new scrolling code will be part of the viewports move |
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| 13:19:47 | stripwax | hm, ok - so how to fix the wps code in the meantime? the %It tag should not trigger continously all the time. |
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| 13:23:13 | * | amiconn is looking for a nice place to put a function that is shared between menu.c and tree.c |
| 13:24:28 | amiconn | I could use misc.c ... |
| 13:25:02 | amiconn | Another thing is that we have a macro HAVE_SW_POWEROFF now, which is defined for all targets except archos player and recorder v1 |
| 13:25:29 | amiconn | I think it would be good to reverse the logic, but I am not sure about the naming of that inverse macro... |
| 13:26:46 | stripwax | HAVE_HW_POWEROFF? |
| 13:27:09 | amiconn | Perhaps, but both names don't really match what they mean |
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| 13:28:05 | amiconn | All targets can be powered off by software, and many can also be powered off by hardware means if the software hangs |
| 13:28:44 | bluebrother | HAVE_NO_SW_POWEROFF? |
| 13:29:16 | amiconn | The macro is there to distinguish between targets where we can intercept the normal poweroff before hardware poweroff kicks in, i.e. either have no hardware poweroff (irivers), or the hardware poweroff timeout is quite long (archos fm/v2, Ondios, iAudios) |
| 13:30:19 | amiconn | ...from targets where the hardware poweroff timeout is so short that we need to keep the user away from using it, and use another way for clean shutdown |
| 13:30:32 | amiconn | The latter targets are player and recorder v1 |
| 13:30:34 | bluebrother | HAVE_SLOW_HW_POWEROFF maybe? |
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| 13:31:37 | amiconn | ...and I would like to find a suitable macro name to define for those 2 targets only (less clutter in the config-<target>.h files) |
| 13:32:16 | amiconn | NEED_CLEAN_SHUTDOWN_MEASURE perhaps... |
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| 13:37:52 | vik_ | anyone here awake and familiar with the H300 RTC/PMU? |
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| 13:55:28 | Nico_P | stripwax: you here ? |
| 13:55:50 | stripwax | yep |
| 13:56:00 | Nico_P | just read your report and the log |
| 13:56:13 | Nico_P | are you sure these lines used to scroll before the tokenizer ? |
| 13:56:39 | stripwax | I've just checked out an old svn and I'm trying to confirm right now |
| 13:56:47 | stripwax | "pretty sure" but want to check |
| 13:56:49 | Nico_P | and about the DYNAMIC and STATIC attributes... I used the same as in the previous code |
| 13:57:40 | Nico_P | and it makes sense that the next track info should be static but as amiconn said, it can change at any moment, even on SWCODEC targets |
| 13:58:15 | Nico_P | but maybe they should be made static and then a change of info should trigger a complete WPS update |
| 13:58:42 | stripwax | so something must be up with the way these are triggered, because they're currently triggering -all the time-. |
| 13:58:48 | stripwax | Confirmed - these used to scroll on old builds |
| 13:58:57 | Nico_P | yes, DYNAMIC updates often |
| 13:59:03 | Nico_P | :( |
| 13:59:08 | stripwax | I guess it used to update less often? |
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| 13:59:50 | Nico_P | stripwax: if it updated less often, I guess the time display would be jerky and you'd see the scrolling line "jump" |
| 13:59:58 | stripwax | It looks like %s and %ac also no longer work together, for some reason |
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| 14:00:21 | Nico_P | stripwax: they do on normal lines |
| 14:00:23 | stripwax | Nico_P - I'll try it through the debugger. |
| 14:01:29 | stripwax | Nico_P - I'm thinking there must be something in the old code that prevented a puts_scroll if the next track title didn't actually change. Because a puts_scroll is getting triggered all the time, the line doesn't actually scroll |
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| 14:03:20 | Nico_P | stripwax: looks like the next info is DYNAMIC and STATIC at the same time in the old code |
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| 14:03:28 | Nico_P | in mine it's only DYNAMIC |
| 14:03:48 | stripwax | hrm. I can't even imagine what dynamic + static together might mean :-) |
| 14:04:02 | stripwax | but yeah, that could be the problem |
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| 14:05:12 | Nico_P | I'm testing now |
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| 14:05:33 | stripwax | thanks! |
| 14:09:31 | Nico_P | setting them to static makes them scroll |
| 14:10:46 | stripwax | I know |
| 14:11:13 | stripwax | but is that the right fix? |
| 14:15:11 | Nico_P | not sure... It prevents the next track info from being displayed when it appears |
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| 14:15:51 | Nico_P | the update of the next track info should trigger a WPS refresh |
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| 14:18:23 | stripwax | Right. Stepping thru the old code, it looks like we never get (refresh_mode & WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL) triggering repeatedly. In the new code, we always end up processing the puts_scroll code. |
| 14:19:10 | stripwax | Changing track causes a WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL event however, as expected |
| 14:21:20 | stripwax | So it sounds like DYNAMIC is the right flag to have for next track metadata, but somehow the wps_refresh_scroll refresh event is being used too enthusiastically |
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| 14:23:35 | stripwax | Maybe the order is different? WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL happens in preference to WPS_REFRESH_DYNAMIC in the old code |
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| 14:26:21 | stripwax | Oh. The new code doesn't seem to check refresh_mode & WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL ? is that the problem? |
| 14:28:50 | Nico_P | stripwax: probably |
| 14:29:04 | stripwax | ok. testing a fix. |
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| 14:29:50 | Nico_P | me too :) |
| 14:31:22 | stripwax | Well it seems to fix for me. |
| 14:32:48 | moos | Nico_P: no fix yet for the annoying "track peack gain tag" bug? ;P |
| 14:33:13 | Nico_P | moos: no, and I'm not sure it's directly related to the tokenizer |
| 14:33:26 | Nico_P | stripwax: can I see your fix ? mine isn't completely good |
| 14:33:46 | pearldiver | "RTC alarm for Gigabeat. Will be useful one the OF bootloader is no longer required" ? |
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| 14:34:27 | moos | Nico_P: oh, the bug seems to came since your WPS rework here |
| 14:35:03 | moos | that's true that the curious thing is, even in the tag viewer, I have those strange things |
| 14:35:05 | Nico_P | moos: It's probably related but not in a simple way |
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| 14:35:49 | markun | pearldiver: what about it? |
| 14:36:00 | stripwax | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7000 |
| 14:36:31 | stripwax | ^ Nico_P. I've linked it to the WPS thread too. |
| 14:36:44 | pearldiver | markun, "OF bootloader is no longer required", this part |
| 14:36:51 | pearldiver | is a little confusing |
| 14:36:55 | Nico_P | stripwax: that works fine for you ? mine seemed to be mostly the same |
| 14:37:09 | stripwax | Nico_P - seems to. what problems did you encounter? |
| 14:37:12 | markun | pearldiver: I think "one" should have been "when" |
| 14:37:28 | pearldiver | aha :) |
| 14:37:32 | markun | basically, RTC can be used when we have our own bootloader in flash |
| 14:37:39 | markun | where did you read this btw? |
| 14:37:48 | pearldiver | main page |
| 14:37:53 | markun | eh, wakup alarm I mean :) |
| 14:37:57 | Nico_P | stripwax: actually I replaced "flags & WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL" by "refresh_mode & flags & WPS_REFRESH_SCROLL", which isn't quite the same |
| 14:38:07 | stripwax | ah. no, that won't work! |
| 14:38:15 | Nico_P | I mean it doesnt produce the same effect |
| 14:38:27 | Nico_P | stripwax: no, it didn't work well :) |
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| 14:38:57 | Nico_P | stripwax: I'm going to have lunch but as soon as possible I'll check and commit your patch |
| 14:39:05 | stripwax | Nico_P - great! |
| 14:39:07 | stripwax | and thanks! |
| 14:39:17 | Nico_P | stripwax: thanks to you |
| 14:39:19 | * | stripwax gets peckish too and wanders off for a sandwich |
| 14:39:23 | stripwax | :-) |
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| 14:44:16 | stripwax | crap- somehow I set the category of my patch to be 'Battery/Charging' rather than gui, .. sorry about that |
| 14:46:04 | stripwax | markun : - probably 'once' rather than 'one' |
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| 14:52:07 | markun | stripwax: yes, that must be it |
| 14:52:10 | stripwax | Could someone close this redundant patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6972 |
| 14:52:36 | pixelma | stripwax: would "wps" be the correct category? |
| 14:52:46 | stripwax | pixelma - yep, thanks |
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| 15:43:53 | stripwax | Has anyone considered a regression test framework for rockbox? |
| 15:45:05 | stripwax | (think it could be a good albeit nontrivial Summer Of Code project) |
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| 15:54:42 | qwedsa | what's wrong with this code? |
| 15:54:43 | qwedsa | http://paste.uni.cc/14411 |
| 15:54:51 | qwedsa | BUTTON_OFF works |
| 15:55:05 | qwedsa | but BUTTON_ON doesnt |
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| 15:59:56 | linuxstb | qwedsa: Which device are you working on? |
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| 16:00:29 | qwedsa | iRiver H300 |
| 16:00:43 | qwedsa | with the simulator |
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| 16:04:41 | qwedsa | wb linuxstb :P |
| 16:05:09 | qwedsa | i'm working on a iRiver H300 with the simulator |
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| 16:08:51 | linuxstb | qwedsa: I can't see anything obviously wrong. What happens if you swap ON and OFF? |
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| 16:10:11 | qwedsa | Only the BUTTON_OFF works :( |
| 16:13:22 | qwedsa | got it |
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| 16:14:32 | qwedsa | button on = + |
| 16:14:36 | qwedsa | not 5 |
| 16:15:06 | linuxstb | That would help ;) |
| 16:15:14 | qwedsa | :P |
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| 16:46:36 | admin_ | On the rockbox build page, what does 'sim' mean next to the realeases? |
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| 16:50:51 | linuxstb | admin_: Those aren't releases, just all the different versions of Rockbox which the automated build system builds. "sim" is the UI Simulator - a version of Rockbox that runs on your PC. |
| 16:52:17 | admin_ | THanks linuxstb |
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| 16:59:08 | admin_ | WOuld someone mind helping me, I try to use the makefile for the sim, but when running the makefile: /bin/sh: m68k-elf-gcc: not found |
| 16:59:12 | admin_ | CONVBDF |
| 16:59:14 | admin_ | make[1]: /home/ronnie/rockbox-2.5/tools/convbdf: Command not found |
| 16:59:17 | admin_ | make[1]: *** [/home/ronnie/rockbox-2.5/build-dir/firmware/sysfont.o] Error 127 |
| 16:59:19 | admin_ | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
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| 17:00:58 | bluebrother | what "Makefile for the sim"? |
| 17:01:10 | bluebrother | the makefile is created by configure. |
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| 17:02:13 | admin_ | bluebrother: yeah, I meant that, but when i run make, it shows that stuff |
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| 17:02:43 | bluebrother | you did not select "Simulator" as build target. |
| 17:02:50 | admin_ | oh..nope :p, I didn't |
| 17:02:58 | admin_ | I can ONLY select simulator? |
| 17:03:03 | admin_ | I can't do things like dev, or normal? |
| 17:03:11 | bluebrother | how do you expect to build the sim if you select something else? |
| 17:03:16 | admin_ | hmmm |
| 17:03:19 | admin_ | Good question ;) |
| 17:03:24 | bluebrother | you can select normal, but that will build it for your target |
| 17:03:32 | admin_ | thanks bluebrother |
| 17:03:32 | bluebrother | which in turn requires a cross compiler |
| 17:03:43 | bluebrother | i.e. m68k in your case |
| 17:04:28 | bluebrother | be aware that the sim is intended for debugging, not as a standalone pc application. |
| 17:04:30 | Rincewind | I have a problem. My H120 doesn't show up in Linux when I plug usb in |
| 17:04:32 | Rincewind | is there a way to mount it manually? |
| 17:05:01 | admin_ | crap, lots of errors bluebrother , about button-x11 |
| 17:05:02 | linuxstb | Rincewind: Has it suddenly stopped working, or has it never worked? |
| 17:06:06 | bluebrother | do you have sdl installed? Including development packages? |
| 17:06:21 | bluebrother | Rincewind: does this also affect usb bootloader mode? |
| 17:06:42 | Rincewind | it has suddenly stopped working |
| 17:07:04 | Rincewind | i think it is a problem with my linux, my usb stick isn't working either |
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| 17:07:23 | linuxstb | Rincewind: That seems to happen in Linux sometimes - a reboot might be needed. |
| 17:07:49 | bluebrother | you can also try to unload and reload all usb modules |
| 17:07:53 | Rincewind | I just rebooted |
| 17:08:18 | admin_ | no ideas bluebrother ? |
| 17:09:10 | bluebrother | admin_, have you sdl installed? |
| 17:09:44 | linuxstb | admin_: Delete your build directory, create a new one, and then run ../tools/configure, selecting 11 for H320, S for simulator, then S for SDL. |
| 17:10:04 | linuxstb | admin_: It shouldn't be looking for button-x11 unless you've misconfigured it. |
| 17:10:25 | admin_ | hmm, I'll try that linuxstb |
| 17:10:35 | linuxstb | Make sure the configure script says "selected sdl simulator" in the messages at the end. |
| 17:10:50 | admin_ | I can't pick iRiver X5? |
| 17:11:03 | admin_ | *iAudio |
| 17:11:04 | bluebrother | you can. |
| 17:11:06 | admin_ | ok |
| 17:11:21 | linuxstb | admin_: Sorry, I confused you with someone else... |
| 17:11:28 | bluebrother | you didn't tell what device you are trying to build, and there aren't too much coldfire targets ... |
| 17:11:29 | admin_ | heh |
| 17:14:42 | admin_ | hmm |
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| 17:14:58 | admin_ | Build (W)in32 or (X)11 GUI version? (X) |
| 17:14:58 | admin_ | S |
| 17:14:58 | admin_ | Selected x11 simulator |
| 17:15:14 | bluebrother | errr ... how old is your source? |
| 17:15:17 | linuxstb | You've downloaded some very old sourcecode... |
| 17:15:20 | admin_ | orly? |
| 17:15:21 | admin_ | hmm darn |
| 17:15:25 | admin_ | I DL'd it a few minutes ago :p |
| 17:15:30 | admin_ | I'll get the svn? |
| 17:15:39 | bluebrother | what source did you download? |
| 17:15:46 | linuxstb | Or get the source from the "current builds" page. But SVN is generally better. |
| 17:15:54 | admin_ | http://www.rockbox.org/download/rockbox-2.5.tar.gz |
| 17:16:03 | bluebrother | uarrrgh. |
| 17:16:11 | bluebrother | that's wayyy outdated. |
| 17:16:21 | admin_ | hah |
| 17:16:35 | admin_ | well, then yall should update the downloads page :p |
| 17:16:52 | bluebrother | no |
| 17:17:08 | bluebrother | the download page holds the releases. There hasn't been a release for 2 years or so |
| 17:17:10 | admin_ | where should I get it from |
| 17:17:19 | bluebrother | the "current build" link |
| 17:17:28 | bluebrother | or use svn |
| 17:17:35 | admin_ | ok |
| 17:17:46 | bluebrother | there also hasn't been a release for any other players than the archos ones |
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| 17:21:39 | admin_ | hah, wow, the latest svn realese...woah, defiitly a lot more options then the old one xD |
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| 17:22:42 | bluebrother | hmm. The download page says "Note: Version 2.5 was only released for Archos devices. For other devices, download a current build" and you try to use that source for building the x5 sim? Interesting idea ;-) |
| 17:22:59 | admin_ | heh |
| 17:24:28 | bluebrother | Rincewind: have you tried resoldering your headphone jack? Made the connection problems much better for me |
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| 17:25:03 | elinenbe | bonjour |
| 17:25:10 | Rincewind | why would I want to do that? |
| 17:25:50 | bluebrother | didn't you add a search "request" for the headphone jack on the SpareParts page? |
| 17:26:44 | Rincewind | I need a line-out jack because the plastic is broken inside the jack |
| 17:26:47 | Rincewind | the problem is the combined optical. I couldn't find one on reichelt or conrad |
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| 17:27:08 | bluebrother | ah, ok. Then I mixed it up a bit ;-) |
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| 17:27:13 | bluebrother | tried farnell? |
| 17:28:58 | Rincewind | not yet |
| 17:30:39 | admin_ | nicee, this is good, thanks for the help bluebrother and linuxstb |
| 17:31:13 | bluebrother | bbl |
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| 18:04:25 | spiorf | hi all, i found a "battery capacity" setting in rockbox, but the lower limit is far higher than the battery capacity of my ipod nano. there is something i forgot? |
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| 18:40:52 | tchan | spiorf: yes, you forgot to RTFM. battery capacity settings are fairly meaningless on all ipods using rockbox. The devs haven't finished the power savings and optimiziations yet. |
| 18:43:16 | bluebrother | spiorf: additionally, that value is only used for the remaining runtime estimation. It doesn't do anything else. |
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| 19:02:44 | stripwax | I've sync'd the albumart patch to work with the wps tokenizer. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3045 |
| 19:03:54 | elinenbe | stripwax: good job. |
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| 20:13:08 | markun | I still get stereo reversal on the Gigabeat after pausing from time to time :( |
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| 20:50:33 | Saibot | anyone? |
| 20:51:15 | bluebrother | anyone what? |
| 20:51:17 | davina | anyone what? |
| 20:51:23 | davina | jinx lol |
| 20:51:29 | bluebrother | ;-) |
| 20:51:42 | Saibot | I was wondering how to switch the dualboot hold time on my X5 |
| 20:51:59 | bluebrother | afaik dual-boot is unofficial on x5 |
| 20:52:24 | Saibot | I know, but I'd still like to know how I can change that |
| 20:52:25 | davina | no idea, i only have an ipod |
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| 20:52:49 | bluebrother | ask the guy who did the unofficial bootloader |
| 20:52:50 | petur | iirc, there's a patch on the tracker |
| 20:53:34 | fm2 | Hey committers. Care to look at http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7001? |
| 20:54:06 | fm2 | And http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6998 |
| 20:54:14 | Saibot | alright, thanks |
| 20:55:26 | bluebrother | I like the idea, but I'm not working on whe wps parsing stuff |
| 20:56:07 | bluebrother | but I wanted to add that patch to the manual documenting the rtc tags. Maybe I'll wait a couple of days until this is cleared |
| 20:56:12 | fm2 | bluebrother: which of the two? |
| 20:56:19 | bluebrother | both ;-) |
| 20:57:14 | Saibot | nevermind, I don't want to mess up my player.. |
| 20:58:28 | fm2 | bluebrother: is there such a manual patch (for rtc?) BTW: FS #6998 has wrong title. It should be rtc, not rts |
| 20:59:17 | davina | this is going to make all the wps that use %c invalid |
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| 21:00:08 | bluebrother | fm2, check FS #6986. I corrected your task title |
| 21:00:12 | fm2 | davina: Yes. Are there many? All official RB WPS's have been updated. And RB isn't released yet. So changes are possible. |
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| 21:00:56 | bluebrother | and added it as related task |
| 21:01:10 | fm2 | bluebrother: ok |
| 21:01:20 | fm2 | Hopefully, this won't get lost |
| 21:01:24 | davina | i have 2 that I made that will be affected lol |
| 21:01:54 | fm2 | davina: your private? Then you could update them. It's really easy. |
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| 21:24:17 | datachild | If i want to update my old rockbox firmware with a newly build, do i just write over the old .rockbox dir with the new one? |
| 21:24:51 | bluebrother | yes. |
| 21:24:55 | datachild | okay :) |
| 21:25:19 | bluebrother | if you have a rockbox.ipod in the root folder you can remove that too −− it's now below the .rockbox folder |
| 21:25:41 | datachild | yeah, okay |
| 21:26:20 | bluebrother | and on ipods, make sure you have a recent bootloader. |
| 21:26:31 | bluebrother | otherwise you might experience data aborts. |
| 21:27:35 | datachild | oh, okay |
| 21:28:04 | datachild | no fonts-dir in the new releases? |
| 21:28:49 | bluebrother | fonts are a separate package since quite a long time now |
| 21:28:55 | datachild | oh, okay |
| 21:29:15 | datachild | but it's okay to put my old font-dir in the .rockbox dir? |
| 21:29:50 | bluebrother | yes. The fonts format hasn't changed, though there might have been some fixes to the fonts. |
| 21:30:16 | bluebrother | but for that you could simply overwrite the folder with the fonts package afterwards. |
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| 21:35:58 | datachild | thanks |
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| 21:50:48 | robin0800 | with the new album art patch what are the wps tags? |
| 21:51:32 | bluebrother | same as before maybe? |
| 21:51:47 | stripwax | robin0800 - unless I screwed up. I'm fixing the conditionals right now.. |
| 21:51:52 | robin0800 | they don't seem to work |
| 21:52:44 | stripwax | what don't work, the conditionals, or the %Cl and %C tags? |
| 21:53:02 | stripwax | Tell me exactly what you're doing, and I'll try for a fix. |
| 21:53:44 | robin0800 | %Cl|15|70||| |
| 21:53:44 | robin0800 | %C |
| 21:54:06 | stripwax | Ah. ok. So I probably broke the default. I bet it works with %Cl|15|70|100|100| |
| 21:54:12 | stripwax | taking a look |
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| 21:56:07 | robin0800 | yes ypur right its just the default broken |
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| 21:59:02 | robin0800 | just noticed wth 100|100 the pictures if bigger still get displayed |
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| 22:08:20 | Bagder | anyone with a commit pending? ;-) |
| 22:08:28 | * | Bagder wants his build server tested |
| 22:09:07 | stripwax | robin0800 - what was the behaviour before today? |
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| 22:13:36 | fm2 | Bagder: you could try it out with http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6998 |
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| 22:13:54 | scoates | hi |
| 22:14:02 | bluebrother | hehe ;-) |
| 22:14:13 | fm2 | Bagder: it's quite harmless |
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| 22:14:26 | fm2 | bluebrother: ;-) |
| 22:14:31 | Bagder | I won't |
| 22:14:36 | Bagder | not today at least |
| 22:14:37 | scoates | I poked around the site a bit, and didn't find an answer. My ipod (color) sits in its dock, tehtered to my laptop all day, most days. Is there a way for me to (e.g.) display auxillary information on the screen (via usb) while it's docked? |
| 22:15:06 | fm2 | Bagder: I only wanted to test the new build server ;-) |
| 22:15:17 | bluebrother | scoates, no. At least not yet |
| 22:15:34 | Bagder | fm2: right, but I'm not spending time to work on a random patch for this |
| 22:15:39 | scoates | hmm.. too bad (-: that would be sweet. Scrolling RSS feed, for example.. |
| 22:16:03 | bluebrother | scoates, feel free to implement the needed usb stuff ;-) |
| 22:16:04 | fm2 | Bagder: ok, I was just kidding |
| 22:16:20 | scoates | heh... bluebrother I could write the RSS parser, but that's about it (-: |
| 22:16:58 | fm2 | scoates: are you in the southern semisphere? Your smiley is turned :-) |
| 22:16:58 | bluebrother | once we have a proper usb stack this might be something to think about. But that's nothing for me |
| 22:17:19 | bluebrother | fm2, I guess he's rather left-handed |
| 22:17:49 | scoates | nah.. I'm in Canadia. I developed the backwards-smiley habit back when I was a teenager on BBSs. |
| 22:18:12 | * | petur thinks of committing a new plugin |
| 22:18:20 | bluebrother | what plugin? |
| 22:18:31 | petur | a wavfile viewer |
| 22:18:43 | scoates | thanks for the info. |
| 22:18:45 | bluebrother | viewer? Like viewing the waveform? |
| 22:18:49 | petur | yep |
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| 22:19:21 | scoates | I'd also like to be able to use my scroll wheel to jog, but I don't think that's possible, is it? |
| 22:19:31 | bluebrother | no |
| 22:19:59 | bluebrother | unless you create a patch to do it of course. |
| 22:20:02 | scoates | that's the only thing I miss about the Apple firmware.. quick jogging to 30-mins into the track |
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| 22:20:19 | bluebrother | we have accellerated seeking ... |
| 22:20:31 | bluebrother | it's quite handy too. |
| 22:20:52 | scoates | yeah, but it still takes a long time to find my place in podcasts where it neglected to save the position, somehow |
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| 22:21:11 | scoates | accellerated seeking=the seek gets faster, the longer you've held down the button? |
| 22:21:21 | moos | petur: please do, Bagder need a commit :) |
| 22:21:22 | bluebrother | use bookmarks |
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| 22:23:48 | netmasta10bt | scoates: yes thats accelerated seeking −− i dont believe its on by default |
| 22:24:05 | etedor | anyone know what to do when rockbox freezes at the loading screen on a 4th gen b/w ipod and isn't recognized by windows? |
| 22:24:21 | scoates | netmasta10bt: yeah, I have that. It's still annoying to jump [a large amount]. Much smoother with the wheel. |
| 22:24:34 | markun | scoates: I agree that 'percentual' seeking would be a nice feature |
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| 22:25:18 | bluebrother | accellerated seeking is enabled per default. |
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| 22:27:45 | etedor | :( |
| 22:28:57 | bluebrother | etedor, do you have the latest bootloader? |
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| 22:30:50 | etedor | i think so |
| 22:30:52 | etedor | one sec |
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| 22:31:45 | etedor | er guess not but i do now |
| 22:33:00 | stripwax | robin0800 - patch updated, let me know if works better for you. I still didn't understand the comment about "the pictures is bigger get displayed" |
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| 22:35:57 | bluebrother | etedor, does it work with a recent bootloader and a current build? |
| 22:36:07 | perl|work | somehow this one got out of sync too: |
| 22:36:08 | perl|work | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5241 |
| 22:36:47 | etedor | i can't even try to put another build on. windows doesn't recognize it as anything |
| 22:36:51 | scoates | would it be possible to write a plugin for rockbox that listens to the (USB) serial interface and gets data via USB? (approaching my wishlist from a different angle) |
| 22:37:04 | bluebrother | etedor, reboot the ipod and go into emergency disk mode |
| 22:37:23 | bluebrother | then make sure to have the latest bootloader (just run ipodpatcher) and install a current build |
| 22:37:29 | bluebrother | and check if it works. |
| 22:38:12 | bluebrother | scoates, what do you exactly mean? While usb is a serial bus it isn't simply a serial interface like the COM ports on your pc. |
| 22:38:17 | stripwax | scoates - the plugin writer would almost certainly have to write their own USB protocol stack. Yes it's 'possible'. I think it's covered by part of one of the Google Summer Of Code projects for USBOTG on rockbox. |
| 22:38:45 | scoates | hrm.. ok |
| 22:38:51 | scoates | I'll check out the GSoC project |
| 22:38:53 | scoates | thanks |
| 22:38:58 | bluebrother | you also need to do the usb enumeration to get any kind of usb connection which is more than simple sniffing |
| 22:39:10 | scoates | hmm |
| 22:39:39 | bluebrother | usb is some kind of a complex beast. |
| 22:39:47 | scoates | hmm.. plus, it's not actually rockbox that I see when it's plugged in, right? (the "ΓΈ" screen) |
| 22:40:58 | etedor | ugh. when i reboot and hold menu+play it'll either freeze at the loading screen like normal, or go to the main menu and then show the charging icon as soon as i plug it in |
| 22:42:07 | stripwax | etedor - can you reboot into the regular apple fw? |
| 22:42:19 | etedor | my ipod's been out of commission for awhile. i tried installing rockbox a month or two ago and then it started freezing so i gave up and let it sit. should i let it charge for awhile? |
| 22:42:32 | etedor | if that's the emergency disk mode then no |
| 22:43:00 | etedor | blank screen, apple logo comes up, i hold menu+play, it goes to the rockbox initializing screen |
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| 22:43:44 | bluebrother | the moment the apple logo comes up press Select + Play. It should go into emergency disk mode then |
| 22:43:55 | etedor | oh. my bad |
| 22:44:05 | bluebrother | i.e. you shouldn't see Rockbox booting. |
| 22:44:13 | etedor | wrong button :x |
| 22:44:37 | etedor | there we go |
| 22:44:53 | bluebrother | there is also a hardware diagnostic mode. You can access that with Select + Left like the emergency disk mode |
| 22:45:13 | bluebrother | once you're in emergency disk mode try updating Rockbox and the bootloader. |
| 22:45:27 | etedor | right |
| 22:45:32 | etedor | should i format it or anything? |
| 22:45:45 | bluebrother | hmm. I'm not completely sure, but the 4G might be affected by the frequency scaling bug. |
| 22:45:52 | bluebrother | no, I don't believe this is necessary. |
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| 22:47:13 | bluebrother | if it still crashes try a build with frequency scaling disabled. Found one here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6357.0 |
| 22:47:24 | bluebrother | (no idea how outdated that build is, haven't checked) |
| 22:47:38 | etedor | alright. thanks |
| 22:47:39 | scoates | will the USBOTG project support native disk mode (ie, I'll be able to plug it in, and it won't reboot)? |
| 22:48:02 | bluebrother | scoates, usbotg is "the other way round" |
| 22:48:09 | petur | that's the idea |
| 22:48:36 | scoates | hrm.. thought that might encompass USB disk support, too. |
| 22:48:42 | petur | as a mather of fact, usbotg is an extension of usb where both sides can request to become host |
| 22:48:46 | scoates | are there plans to support disk, within rockbox? |
| 22:48:47 | bluebrother | usbotg is for acting as usb host. Acting as usb slave (i.e. no more rebooting for disk mode) might be similar |
| 22:48:48 | scoates | (usb disk) |
| 22:49:03 | scoates | right (-: |
| 22:49:45 | petur | bluebrother: the idea is to have an usb stack that can do host and slave |
| 22:49:51 | bluebrother | petur, but doesn't usbotg require special hardware (i.e. some chip that can also do master?) |
| 22:49:58 | petur | yes |
| 22:50:01 | scoates | ... if I was somehow able to write to the disk, while rockbox is running, I could write a plugin that reads a specific file at $someInterval, and renders the contents.. that would give me my feature (-: |
| 22:50:06 | bluebrother | sure, a stack that can do both would be the best. |
| 22:50:44 | scoates | bluebrother: doesn't the ipod already have this capability in the apple firmware (albeit limited) for, eg, the camera? |
| 22:50:56 | amiconn | petur: If you commit your wav viewer, just make sure that it won't become the default, at least for hwcodec |
| 22:51:03 | petur | if we get an usb stack, it should be written so we can do both. We can start with host or slave only, but not limitted to only host or slave |
| 22:51:10 | amiconn | You know, there already is a wav "viewer", wavplay.rock |
| 22:51:13 | etedor | ahhh thanks bluebrother. it works :) |
| 22:51:24 | bluebrother | scoates, I believe the camera is connected differently. But I might be wrong. |
| 22:51:32 | scoates | I don't know (-: |
| 22:51:35 | petur | amiconn: how do you set a viewer as default? |
| 22:52:03 | bluebrother | the ipod has a serial interface at the dock connector, and the ipl wiki has some information about transferring images using that bus |
| 22:52:24 | bluebrother | which leads me to the assumption the camera is using that protocol |
| 22:53:12 | amiconn | Hmm, good question. I think it's just the one that appears first in viewers.config (on target) |
| 22:53:21 | scoates | that could be. I wonder if it would be possible to create (e.g., again) /dev/ttyS0 (or whatever) when the ipod is booted but not in disk mode |
| 22:53:39 | petur | amiconn: should be fine then |
| 22:53:41 | scoates | (on the host, I mean) |
| 22:53:45 | bluebrother | you can access that serial port with ipl and an adapter cable |
| 22:53:59 | * | petur still has some cleaning up and commenting to do |
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| 22:56:34 | amiconn | bluebrother: Since when? |
| 22:56:47 | amiconn | Afaik ipl has serial working for pp5002 only |
| 22:56:57 | bluebrother | the ipl wiki has information about that. |
| 22:57:05 | bluebrother | really? Oh, maybe I missed that fact. |
| 22:57:17 | petur | is there a wiki page with an overview of stack/heap space for plugins on different targets? I recall not all targets reserving the same amount for plugins, but maybe all HAVE_LCD_BITMAP targets have the same amount? |
| 22:57:33 | amiconn | nope |
| 22:57:36 | amiconn | Surely not |
| 22:57:59 | amiconn | Plugin RAM is 32KB for archos, 64KB for iFP and 512KB for all others |
| 22:58:48 | amiconn | Plugin IRAM is either 48KB or 64KB, only on ipods, iriver H1xx/H300 and iAudio, shared with codec IRAM |
| 22:59:07 | amiconn | Stack is the main stack, shared and same size for all targets (8KB iirc) |
| 22:59:30 | petur | thnx |
| 22:59:36 | amiconn | Gigabeat and archos have no plugin iram |
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| 23:00:18 | scoates | bluebrother: thanks for the info |
| 23:00:25 | amiconn | Meh, forgot other PP targets like H10 and Sansa. Those have plugin iram too |
| 23:01:12 | * | amiconn guesses a waveform viewer doesn't need very much ram |
| 23:02:36 | petur | I use all audio buffer to store as much peak info as possible, just need some temp buffers when reading the file |
| 23:03:16 | petur | it's bloody slow on target btw, 9 minutes to read a 50 minute WAV recording - will need some optimizing |
| 23:03:20 | amiconn | Oh, no waveform viewing while listening to music? |
| 23:03:44 | petur | you can see the whole waveform on one screen |
| 23:03:57 | petur | and then zoom in/out and pan around |
| 23:04:14 | amiconn | The 9 minutes are on H300? |
| 23:04:18 | petur | yes |
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| 23:04:38 | * | amiconn is curious how long it will take on archos |
| 23:04:55 | * | petur is curious about gigabeat |
| 23:05:04 | amiconn | bah, gigabeat is boring |
| 23:05:08 | petur | hehe |
| 23:05:15 | perl|work | heh] |
| 23:05:41 | amiconn | Virtually no need for optimisation |
| 23:06:40 | * | amiconn thinks iFP is much more challenging |
| 23:07:14 | amiconn | Achieve realtime audio decoding on 60MHz *single core* ARM, with just 1MB RAM |
| 23:07:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
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| 23:15:24 | Bagder | new build works fine now at least |
| 23:15:31 | Bagder | build server even |
| 23:15:43 | amiconn | Quite fast even |
| 23:15:56 | amiconn | It seems to me that all build servers get slower over time |
| 23:16:14 | scorche | Bagder: was there a question you wanted to ask leslie (GSoC main person)...she is active in IRC |
| 23:16:18 | amiconn | Maybe a filesystem thing, or perhaps ccache |
| 23:16:20 | petur | some windows effect |
| 23:16:35 | Bagder | this new box is a 2.8GHZ dual core athlon64 |
| 23:17:00 | amiconn | Disk speed is obviously important as well |
| 23:17:28 | amiconn | Mine is just a 2.4GHz single core athlon64, but it's not twice as slow |
| 23:17:41 | Bagder | true, 4GB of DDR2 800MHz memory and 1000GB SATA2 disks... |
| 23:18:12 | * | amiconn wonders who needs 1000GB ;) |
| 23:18:35 | Bagder | I'll use one of the disks for backups of the other one |
| 23:18:47 | scorche | s/1000GB/10000 RPM ;) |
| 23:19:11 | * | petur stops drooling and gets on with whatever he was doing |
| 23:19:20 | Bagder | yeah, these disks are not the fastest disks around actually |
| 23:19:47 | * | amiconn just has a 2x160GB sata raid1 set |
| 23:19:57 | amiconn | Linux software raid |
| 23:20:28 | Bagder | and this box is on a mere 1mbit upload adsl link |
| 23:20:43 | amiconn | Hehe, 'mere' |
| 23:21:41 | petur | only 256K here :( |
| 23:22:23 | amiconn | 384K here |
| 23:23:10 | Bagder | well, I have ~15mbit download |
| 23:23:45 | qwedsa | do you life in sweden:? |
| 23:23:49 | Bagder | yes |
| 23:23:53 | qwedsa | nice :P |
| 23:24:12 | Bagder | and yes, the ground was covered with snow this moring! ;-O |
| 23:24:18 | Bagder | morning even |
| 23:24:19 | qwedsa | even nicer :P |
| 23:24:32 | qwedsa | here in The Nederlands no snow :( |
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| 23:25:38 | pixelma | Bagder: what's this sentence supposed to say... "The the very latest sources off the SVN server (or possibly get a recent source code tarball)." ? (I see that it's been the same way before... still I don't get it) |
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| 23:25:59 | pixelma | (in your latest commit) |
| 23:26:04 | Bagder | oh |
| 23:26:16 | Bagder | s/The the/Get the/ |
| 23:26:27 | | Part perl|work |
| 23:26:38 | * | petur wonders where '_little_endian_to_native' is used in plugin_start - get a link error on it :( |
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| 23:27:46 | amiconn | petur: Forgot an rb-> somewhere? |
| 23:28:00 | stripwax | Hm, looks like the wps scroll patch breaks updates of the time remaining info .. ! I'll see if I can quickly figure out why |
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| 23:33:40 | Bagder | scoates: I don't think I have any particular question, no |
| 23:33:45 | Bagder | scorche even |
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| 23:34:31 | scorche | ah...alright |
| 23:34:45 | scorche | just checking when she is here =) |
| 23:35:02 | Bagder | we still seem to be marked for three students |
| 23:35:17 | scorche | yeah =( |
| 23:35:23 | linuxstb | Do we know if that's the final allocation yet? Are students still due to be informed on the 11th? |
| 23:35:32 | scorche | i dont think they will change it until the final allocation |
| 23:35:46 | Llorean | Google hasn't responded to my email beyond the initial one-line response |
| 23:36:09 | guitarfreak211 | hello...how do i install a patch for doom on my sansa? |
| 23:36:54 | Llorean | guitarfreak211: For patching Rockbox, see the instructions for how to compile. |
| 23:37:21 | guitarfreak211 | oh, ok |
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