00:00:09 | ender` | ok, how do i test it? |
00:00:37 | Ctcp | Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
00:00:37 | * | bluebrother wonders how the sansa emulator got done |
00:01:31 | Bagder | ender`: it's not very easily done, the acbuild.pl script gets run by the buildmaster with a somewhat complicated command line: |
00:01:54 | Bagder | ender`: ssh -i privkey $ssh_port $sshopts $server "./acbuild.pl $date $buildline |
00:02:30 | jhMikeS | I'm just seeing a lot of assignment to those registers but not to particular bits, just outright overwriting the whole register...no other hw does this |
00:03:13 | Bagder | ender`: where buildline is something like "build-ondiosp:Ondio SP - Normal:ajbrec.ajz:ondiosp\\n2\\n\\n" |
00:03:27 | ender` | ok |
00:05:06 | *** | Alert Mode OFF |
00:09:52 | preglow | jhMikeS: it wouldn't surprise me if this did |
00:10:04 | preglow | jhMikeS: if not, there'd be no way to make those regs atomic without the use of mutexes |
00:10:07 | | Quit deweycooter_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
00:10:25 | | Quit nls ("Leaving.") |
00:11:30 | preglow | and that wouldn't really be practical either |
00:11:31 | jhMikeS | they don't work like that...that's clear as glass since the core patch now operates on pp5020 |
00:11:46 | preglow | you're absolutely certain? |
00:11:53 | preglow | i'm fairly sure that's how all the ipl code did things |
00:12:06 | jhMikeS | I don't care what IPL does :\ |
00:12:36 | jhMikeS | it went from not booting to MPEG player running crash free |
00:12:46 | jhMikeS | just one |= |
00:13:00 | ender` | oops, now that wasn't quite expected |
00:13:23 | preglow | jhMikeS: sure, you don't care what it does, that was just an attempt at justifying them in the first place |
00:13:26 | preglow | most of them are probably mine |
00:13:26 | | Part phxheat |
00:13:56 | preglow | and it does make sense for the regs to behave like that since arm can do no atomic memory ops |
00:14:01 | jhMikeS | hehe, I don't mean to sound like an ass or anything |
00:14:02 | preglow | apart from swp, which helps nothing here |
00:14:21 | | Quit Siltaar ("Aurevoir - www.fdn.fr/~sdescarp") |
00:14:26 | preglow | you didn't come across doing so either, just saying |
00:14:37 | jhMikeS | but, I mean, it's clear IPL doesn't have it all right |
00:14:41 | preglow | haha |
00:14:42 | preglow | no shit |
00:15:13 | jhMikeS | what do you mean "didn't come accross..." ?? |
00:15:39 | preglow | just saying you didn't sound like an ass, heh |
00:15:43 | | Quit deweycooter__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
00:15:48 | jhMikeS | oh, ok... :) |
00:15:51 | HellDragon | lol |
00:16:50 | preglow | how then to do atomic interrupt masking? |
00:16:56 | jhMikeS | my basic evaluation is that whatever IPL does for themselves has to be verified and evaluation for how we do stuff |
00:17:13 | preglow | sure, it just puzzles me we've never noticed until now |
00:17:15 | jhMikeS | between cores or just on core |
00:17:45 | jhMikeS | to mask interrupts on core, disable interrupts with set_irq_level |
00:18:06 | jhMikeS | that's what I set up on coldfire and gigabeat |
00:18:32 | | Quit deweycooter (Connection timed out) |
00:18:50 | ender` | hm, is the svn down? |
00:18:52 | jhMikeS | intercore should be avoided |
00:19:03 | jhMikeS | or as you say mutexed |
00:19:25 | linuxstb | ender`: Yes, the server is being physically relocated. |
00:19:32 | ender` | oh |
00:20:04 | ender` | could this have caused acbuild.pl to delete everything? :) |
00:21:20 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: The behaviour of the CPU_INT_EN register would seem to be the difference between PP5020 and PP5021/22 though. Although it surprises me that IPL does it the PP5021 way, as the code would have been based on the PP5020 |
00:21:39 | ender` | ouch, no, i'm an idiot |
00:22:44 | | Join webguest12 [0] (i=c7004102@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-9731fc51e3995a80) |
00:23:11 | jhMikeS | I suggest a quick set and readout to check, it affects sansa for sure |
00:23:24 | webguest12 | During server maintenance, is SVN mirrored anywhere else, or are we out of luck for source-code checkout until it's back up? |
00:26:12 | jhMikeS | I mean I'm using no patch with just |= instead and most audio glitching is gone all of asudden. Somethings rotten with it all. |
00:27:40 | * | preglow wonders when the gsoc coding officially starts |
00:28:07 | markun | end of may I thought |
00:28:10 | jhMikeS | I think lcd dma has to be stopped in some places or the lcd lines put back right |
00:28:24 | preglow | orly |
00:29:22 | webguest12 | Anyone? |
00:29:24 | jhMikeS | the Renesas chip would only do that if it's lines for writing a command were altered |
00:29:43 | jhMikeS | The whiteout, the random scrolling, etc. |
00:30:28 | bluebrother | webguest12, I don't think there is a mirror |
00:31:04 | | Quit idnar (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
00:32:33 | HellDragon | is coding new plugins for rockbox easy ? |
00:32:40 | HellDragon | I used to code things for ipodlinux but rockbox looks cool too |
00:32:45 | | Join idnar [0] (i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar) |
00:33:11 | webguest12 | Thanks, bluebrother. |
00:33:14 | | Quit webguest12 ("CGI:IRC") |
00:33:55 | | Join deweycooter____ [0] (n=chatzill@user-12lmeid.cable.mindspring.com) |
00:33:57 | | Nick deweycooter____ is now known as deweycooter (n=chatzill@user-12lmeid.cable.mindspring.com) |
00:34:00 | preglow | HellDragon: well, it's not hard |
00:34:02 | bluebrother | HellDragon, if you are familiar with coding I don't think it's too hard |
00:36:50 | | Quit charkins ("Ex-Chat") |
00:37:09 | | Part Ranbee |
00:37:19 | HellDragon | i heard you need to recompile rockbox to add a new plugin ? |
00:37:29 | preglow | not so |
00:37:48 | bluebrother | you need to compile the plugin against the current plugin api |
00:38:12 | bluebrother | but you don't need to recompile Rockbox on every plugin change |
00:39:17 | markun | HellDragon: what would you like to code? |
00:39:33 | HellDragon | i dont know |
00:39:35 | HellDragon | random things |
00:39:35 | linuxstb | HellDragon: There is no separate "SDK" for plugins - you need to add your plugin to the Rockbox source and compile rockbox. |
00:40:02 | | Quit Hilikus (Remote closed the connection) |
00:41:36 | | Join Hilikus [0] (n=rockero@bas4-montreal19-1242419325.dsl.bell.ca) |
00:46:14 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
00:46:58 | | Join alec [0] (n=alec@adsl-69-234-118-126.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
00:47:44 | | Quit alec (Client Quit) |
00:50:09 | | Quit bluebrother ("Leaving") |
00:51:11 | HellDragon | i see |
00:51:26 | | Quit deweycooter___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
00:51:45 | | Quit Galois (Remote closed the connection) |
00:52:00 | | Join Galois [0] (i=djao@efnet-math.org) |
00:52:08 | | Join testdasi [0] (i=8a102823@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-85f020d9c98cb93b) |
00:53:46 | ender` | ok, i'm off to bed, be back tomorrow around 11 |
00:54:21 | testdasi | I am trying to make the button wheel flash with beat (low pitch sound). I think I know how to make it turn on/off but don't know where exactly I should put the code and which variable corresponds to the low-pitch sound. I guess it should be put in dsp.c but clueless otherwise. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
00:54:35 | | Quit ender` (" A psychiatrist is a fellow who asks you a lot of expensive questions your wife asks for nothing.") |
00:54:50 | testdasi | for Sansa e200, btw |
00:55:01 | preglow | testdasi: if you're going to do any kind of freqency specific analysis, you need to do your own frequency analysis |
00:55:08 | preglow | rockbox hasn't got a clue what pitch a signal has |
00:56:26 | Soap | I had, as a child, the "Psychedelic Light Controller" - wired your speakers though it, and plugged your lamp through it, and your lamp would flash to the beat. |
00:56:33 | preglow | one simple way of achieving it would be to low pass filter the signal, then apply an envelope follower on the result and use that to control the light |
00:56:44 | | Join webguest72 [0] (i=4b824190@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b1ce7798e087ecb4) |
00:56:46 | preglow | and unless you already know dsp, i'm probably spouting gibberish at you right now |
00:57:07 | Domonoky | and a good place would be a plugin, i think :-) |
00:57:22 | jhMikeS | why not use pcm peaks to flash the light? |
00:57:40 | | Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) |
00:57:52 | preglow | jhMikeS: because they don't always correspond to the beat |
00:57:54 | testdasi | I am planning to do that actually but I don't know where to put the code and what variable I should use to test it out. Is it the "samples" variable in "dsp_process"? |
00:57:57 | preglow | seldom, as a matter of fact |
00:58:12 | preglow | testdasi: dsp_process would be the place for it for sure |
00:58:14 | jhMikeS | ok, we want just the beat |
00:58:52 | preglow | "proper" beat tracking is hard as hell to achieve, so the lowpass and envelope follower is probably easiest |
00:58:54 | jhMikeS | A simple moving average filter which is a type of IIR filter could do, or you can adjust things a little from that |
00:59:05 | | Join midkay_ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
00:59:08 | | Quit midkay_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
00:59:13 | | Join midkay__ [0] (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
00:59:18 | webguest72 | Who do I direct questions to in here? Just anyone? |
00:59:38 | linuxstb | webguest72: Yes, just ask and someone will probably reply. |
01:00 |
01:00:24 | | Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
01:00:26 | webguest72 | cool, thanks. I just started using linux about a week ago, and I'm going to put rockbox on my ipod. Will the ipod still work with my ihome after I put rockbox on it? |
01:01:04 | | Quit DataGhost (Nick collision from services.) |
01:01:06 | | Join [Sur`DataGho [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:01:12 | linuxstb | I've no idea what ihome is, but you can always boot the Apple firmware if it doesn't work. |
01:01:25 | | Quit midkay (Nick collision from services.) |
01:02:04 | | Nick midkay__ is now known as midkay (n=midkay@c-24-19-236-139.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
01:02:06 | linuxstb | But Rockbox generally doesn't work with proprietory ipod accessories. |
01:02:06 | | Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) |
01:02:06 | testdasi | which variable? I was thinking "samples" but now think it should be "count" |
01:02:06 | webguest72 | hmm...alright, thanks. |
01:02:07 | testdasi | samples highest value is 128 so it can't be it |
01:02:09 | | Part webguest72 |
01:03:18 | preglow | what're you looking for? |
01:03:23 | preglow | sample count? sample array? |
01:04:06 | preglow | in dsp_process, samples is samples to process per block and "tmp" is a pointer to the samples themselves |
01:04:26 | preglow | that is, a pointer to an array of two pointers that point to one channel each |
01:05:39 | Soap | linuxstb: recall we now have the (growing) IpodAccessories wiki page. |
01:07:06 | linuxstb | Soap: What does the "Alert!" symbol mean? That it doesn't work? |
01:07:59 | Soap | yea, is there a better wiki symbol for no? |
01:08:11 | testdasi | so the pointer points to the actual data that will be output into sound? |
01:08:24 | | Quit obo ("bye") |
01:09:41 | Hilikus | hey guys, is there a way to change colors and fonts with the current build or i have to patch it? |
01:10:11 | linuxstb | Soap: I don't know. How about the letters N and o ? ;) |
01:10:11 | Hilikus | for the wps that is |
01:10:30 | scorche | Hilikus: there is |
01:10:43 | * | preglow notices the svn server is gone |
01:10:49 | Hilikus | its not %e is it? cause the parser complains about that tag |
01:10:59 | linuxstb | Soap: But there seems to be a reassuring amount of green on that page - the situation doesn't seem that bad... |
01:11:26 | preglow | hrm, wasn't the only thing requiring an svn server "svn commit"? :> |
01:11:28 | Soap | better than I feared. |
01:11:39 | scorche | preglow: migration time i suppose? |
01:11:59 | preglow | i'm trying to find out who stuffed a comment in dsp.c |
01:12:40 | Soap | I scraped all reports I could find out of the forums, and PMd the posters for as many details as they could give. |
01:12:40 | Hilikus | %e|10|32|146|1|FFFFFF|%al%s%?Cl <%e|64|35|94|4|FFFFFF|%?ia <%ia|%fn>|%?ia <%ia|%fn>> |
01:12:40 | preglow | but svn blame hangs, so i assume it needs a server |
01:12:41 | linuxstb | preglow: I think only the last checked-out versions are stored locally, so anything that needs the full history requires the server. |
01:13:48 | preglow | rightieo |
01:13:48 | scorche | Soap: well, we will find out about the ihome at devcon-w....(there in one in the room) |
01:13:48 | scorche | and then we can add our own addition ;) |
01:13:48 | Soap | tight |
01:13:48 | linuxstb | scorche: Don't you mean "and then we can make it work" ? :) |
01:13:48 | scorche | hehe |
01:13:48 | Soap | I'm willing to bet charging and audio-out will work, but remote won't. |
01:13:48 | | Quit [Sur`DataGho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:14:00 | | Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:14:00 | scorche | linuxstb: you are free to come as well =P |
01:14:00 | preglow | jhMikeS: did you add the comment in dsp_process() about relevant channels being run through the same eq? |
01:14:00 | | Nick DataGhost is now known as [Sur`DataGho (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:14:00 | scorche | and help us@! |
01:14:00 | * | linuxstb would like a trip to vegas... |
01:14:06 | jhMikeS | preglow: ummm....I think you added one |
01:14:07 | scorche | Soap: i am interested to see what it does on wakeup |
01:14:22 | scorche | linuxstb: tis a good excuse =) |
01:15:01 | jhMikeS | preglow: in dsp_process? |
01:15:31 | preglow | jhMikeS: it's appended to what i added, i can't remember writing the last part |
01:15:36 | preglow | dsp_process, yes |
01:15:49 | preglow | last part of the todo: |
01:16:22 | jhMikeS | ah, I think so |
01:16:33 | jhMikeS | yes, :) |
01:17:22 | preglow | what do you mean by it, exactly? summing channels before eq, or just ignoring the filter history? |
01:17:26 | preglow | i assume the first, just wanna make sure :) |
01:18:12 | jhMikeS | yes, #1 |
01:18:18 | | Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E8A7.versanet.de) |
01:19:17 | | Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.168.224) |
01:20:47 | preglow | hrm |
01:20:47 | preglow | i should get around to adding proper bandwidth controls to the eq |
01:20:47 | preglow | just to be done with it |
01:20:51 | | Quit [Sur`DataGho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:20:51 | | Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:21:17 | jhMikeS | to adjust the filter band frequency range? |
01:21:30 | | Nick DataGhost is now known as [Sur`DataGho (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:22:32 | Hilikus | so no idea how to make %e work? a theme i downloaded uses it but i dont know what it is |
01:22:59 | preglow | jhMikeS: yeah, it's a bit more intuitive than "q" |
01:23:54 | Hilikus | it seems to be a really old patch |
01:23:54 | | Join Domonoky_ [0] (n=Domonoky@p549ad1cd.dip.t-dialin.net) |
01:23:54 | | Quit Domonoky (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:23:54 | preglow | jhMikeS: pretty much just replacing q with "bandwidth in octaves", so if you choose a value of one, the higher freq band edge will be twice the amount of the lower |
01:23:55 | preglow | for a value of two, it'll be four times the amount of the lower, etc |
01:24:54 | jhMikeS | more intuitive at that, so logarithmically centered about the peaking frequency? |
01:25:04 | | Join DataGhost [0] (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:25:07 | | Join tHEkIND_ [0] (n=C4AvaYiH@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) |
01:25:10 | | Quit [Sur`DataGho (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:25:13 | preglow | pretty much |
01:25:38 | | Nick DataGhost is now known as [Sur`DataGho (i=dataghos@ip3e832ea5.speed.planet.nl) |
01:25:48 | preglow | i'll probably just make it selectable |
01:26:07 | preglow | the Q i use in the current eq doesn't really correspond to the classic Q definition anyway |
01:26:15 | linuxstb | Hilikus: This patch implements %e, but I think it's out of sync with current Rockbox - http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5900 |
01:26:27 | jhMikeS | I'm not even sure what the classic definition is anyway right now |
01:26:29 | preglow | which is freq/bandwidth |
01:26:57 | preglow | the defintion of Q used in the eq is gain*freq/bandwidth |
01:26:58 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: I think you may be right about that dichotomy in the irq registers...testing now |
01:27:13 | | Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
01:28:10 | | Join Thaiger [0] (n=fenrir@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
01:28:14 | Hilikus | linuxstb: thats the one i found, im trying to sync it manually... thanks man |
01:28:21 | jhMikeS | freq/bandwidth should be a constant for a filter to sound like it has a contant effect, correct? |
01:28:37 | preglow | hmm, might be |
01:29:02 | Thaiger | I've tried loading music to my ipod on linux by mounting the ipod then making a directory on the root and putting music in it, but then it shows up in files and not the database. If I put it in the Music folder it doesn't show up at all. What am I doing wrong? |
01:29:17 | preglow | several people speak well of constant-q filters |
01:29:27 | preglow | the good old moog filter is one, at that |
01:29:29 | linuxstb | Thaiger: Have you initialised/updated the database? |
01:29:45 | linuxstb | Thaiger: The manual describes the database and how to make it auto-update. |
01:31:44 | | Join cosmique [0] (i=584816e4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b346f2c726c9af88) |
01:31:51 | Thaiger | linuxstb: Yes, I set it to autoupdate and I've done a manual update |
01:32:08 | cosmique | hi |
01:32:13 | linuxstb | Thaiger: Is it tagged properly? |
01:32:15 | markun | Thaiger: do you have dircache on? |
01:32:38 | cosmique | is there an ETA when the dowload will work again? |
01:33:29 | linuxstb | cosmique: download.rockbox.org works fine. The SVN/build server and "current builds" should be back in about 8-9 hours. |
01:34:17 | Thaiger | linuxstb: I'm fairly sure |
01:34:25 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: On my PP5020, reading CPU_INT_EN gives 0, both before and immediately after setting it to a value. I'm just trying my ipod video (PP5021) now. |
01:34:30 | Thaiger | markun: dircache? |
01:34:35 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: so it's official now that yes, we have atomic irq masks on some targets and not others. |
01:34:35 | cosmique | i mean: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodvideo/rockbox-ipodvideo.zip |
01:34:44 | jhMikeS | me too, what about 5020? |
01:35:14 | jhMikeS | I think I'll just introduce some macros or inlines to do this then |
01:35:17 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: That was the PP5020.... |
01:35:54 | scorche | linuxstb: afaik, the svn and download server are the same |
01:36:02 | scorche | so, yes download is down |
01:36:18 | | Quit cyphatron (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
01:36:21 | linuxstb | Ah, so they are. For some reason I thought they were different. |
01:36:28 | jhMikeS | woops, misread |
01:36:28 | jhMikeS | so it's really even stranger that this cures it... |
01:36:28 | | Quit Domonoky_ (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
01:36:30 | cosmique | k |
01:38:27 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Yes, it's very strange. Maybe it depends what is written to it - I just did CPU_INT_EN = TIMER1_MASK. |
01:39:26 | jhMikeS | I did that too...I'll just open it wide up |
01:40:11 | jhMikeS | not sure what to do to not have it blow up when I do though |
01:40:43 | | Quit Rincewind (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
01:40:49 | linuxstb | Writing 0xffffffff to it isn't a good idea... |
01:41:02 | preglow | really! |
01:41:24 | jhMikeS | hehe |
01:41:45 | * | linuxstb is sharp tonight |
01:42:01 | markun | Thaiger: you need it on to have auto-update in tagcache working I think |
01:42:36 | jhMikeS | Yeah, it's be a pain to trap all those, but I think the irq function will just return and do nothing |
01:45:52 | jhMikeS | I guess the only thing to remove is the TIMER2 handler |
01:47:24 | Thaiger | markun: Hm... OK, I'll look through the settings for tagcache then, thanks |
01:47:41 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: OK, now I'm very confused - I've changed those |= back to = and it's working... |
01:47:45 | | Join cyphatron [0] (n=cyphatro@c80-217-233-65.bredband.comhem.se) |
01:47:53 | | Join bawb2 [0] (n=bawb2@ip50210.estcmp.ku.edu) |
01:47:54 | jhMikeS | ??? |
01:48:50 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Ignore me... Something odd has happened to my tree.... |
01:48:52 | jhMikeS | alright, you put the core sleep back? |
01:49:00 | jhMikeS | ah |
01:49:06 | jhMikeS | what's going on? :P |
01:49:22 | | Quit cosmique ("CGI:IRC") |
01:49:26 | jhMikeS | if it's working, find out what |
01:51:31 | jhMikeS | you, know, doing the read first before the write could have internal effects |
01:52:45 | preglow | prepare to enter the scary door |
01:53:13 | jhMikeS | it's scary if the read atomically locks the register? |
01:53:23 | markun | Thaiger: dircache is not a part of the tagcache settings :) |
01:53:30 | markun | (now called database btw) |
01:53:46 | preglow | jhMikeS: very |
01:54:08 | jhMikeS | boo |
01:56:23 | jhMikeS | well, it behaves as if the read really happened so that |= functions as expected an a simple asignment just sets it. |
01:56:40 | | Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.196.67) |
01:58:43 | * | jhMikeS is still assuming linuxstb has the odd source tree and = doesn't really majically work again |
01:58:49 | | Join libervisco [0] (n=libervis@hsiproxy.astra-net.com) |
01:59:15 | Thaiger | markun: tagcache = database? |
02:00 |
02:00:41 | Soap | yes |
02:02:35 | | Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
02:04:55 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: No, now it doesn't work with either = or |=, or with the CPU/COP sleep replaced by a udelay. I have a horrible feeling that all my tests were without your patch applied.... |
02:08:13 | | Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.209.45) |
02:08:56 | jhMikeS | all my hopes up and now this...you're serious? |
02:11:53 | jhMikeS | but you tried the udelay first and had a stop on the CPU but not the COP, then change to |=, so what's up with that? |
02:13:17 | | Quit cyphatron (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
02:15:24 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: I think what must have happened was that I still had a build including your patch installed on my ipod, but must have reverted the patch in my source tree at some point. So my first compile today was with the udelay change, but with SVN, and not your patch... I've been testing the changes now, and none of them make your patch work... |
02:16:48 | jhMikeS | so we're back to having things make absolutely no sense at all then :( |
02:19:02 | | Join Thaiger__ [0] (n=fenrir@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
02:20:10 | | Quit Thaiger (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
02:21:07 | jhMikeS | linuxstb: I want to make sure now, patch v2 _was_ actually applied when it ran fine outside mpegplayer thought, right? |
02:22:06 | linuxstb | I can test again. |
02:25:15 | | Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
02:26:42 | | Part libervisco ("Leaving") |
02:28:36 | jhMikeS | sure, thanks...the basic difference is queues not messing with cspr...so some IRQ thing would still be a candidate |
02:29:35 | jhMikeS | make sure it's not the broken v1 :) |
02:30:43 | | Join Thaiger [0] (n=fenrir@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
02:31:15 | | Quit entheh ("^~") |
02:31:51 | | Quit Thaiger__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
02:39:12 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Yes, v2 works, but mpegplayer freezes after about 5 seconds. Which I think is what I reported before. |
02:39:52 | | Join Thaiger__ [0] (n=fenrir@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
02:39:55 | | Quit Thundercloud_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
02:41:44 | jhMikeS | yep |
02:44:04 | | Join element_G [0] (n=g-force@S0106001346a401fd.ed.shawcable.net) |
02:44:13 | jhMikeS | though nuts, I suppose I'll keep my weird outlandish theories to myself and just work in obscurity ... better to fail miserably when noone knows about it :P |
02:44:38 | element_G | rockbox.org down right now? |
02:45:22 | element_G | I mean builds.rockbox.org |
02:46:15 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
02:46:55 | linuxstb | jhMikeS: Sorry I wasted both of our time... |
02:47:23 | linuxstb | element_G: Yes, it's due to be back in about 7 hours |
02:48:44 | element_G | Is there anyone who can give me a link to the new fonts, nimbus 10, 11 and 13? I'm not sure the exact sizes, but I remember that there was an SVN commits with some new fonts. |
02:50:16 | jhMikeS | eh...not quite...the constant calling of set_irq_level letting it run is a scary door |
02:51:27 | linuxstb | element_G: http://www.rockbox.org/rockbox/nimbus.zip - that should be the latest versions of all the nimbus fonts. |
02:51:44 | linuxstb | element_G: Sorry, I meant http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/nimbus.zip |
02:52:24 | | Join Fredz [0] (i=Fredz@74-139-124-236.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
02:52:51 | element_G | Thanks linuxstb, I can get back to work on my WPS, any idea what happened to the builds server? |
02:53:28 | linuxstb | element_G: It's being moved - it's announce on the homepage |
02:54:09 | | Quit Gursikh ("Leaving") |
02:55:00 | element_G | oh :) |
02:55:08 | Fredz | how do ya search the archives |
02:55:14 | Fredz | anyone know |
02:55:27 | element_G | Does anyone know if it's alright to distribute the fonts from Rasher's site? |
02:56:22 | Fredz | ok i take that as no thanks :) |
02:57:39 | | Quit Thaiger (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
02:57:58 | linuxstb | element_G: I 99% sure they're all freely redistributable. Doesn't the site say? |
02:58:03 | linuxstb | Fredz: Which archives? |
02:58:16 | Fredz | was gonna look around bin archives |
02:58:17 | element_G | Rasher is a little bit cryptic" so I assume they are DFSG free. " Thanks for the confirmation |
02:58:21 | Fredz | i seen it in links up there |
03:00 |
03:00:35 | linuxstb | element_G: DFSG refers to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. If the fonts meet that definition, then yes, you're free to distribute them. But you should always try and find the original license that applies to the font you want to use. |
03:01:16 | | Part Hilikus |
03:08:04 | | Quit Fredz ("Leaving") |
03:08:51 | | Join JdGordon [0] (n=jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) |
03:14:49 | | Quit midkay ("Leaving") |
03:16:07 | | Join bonbonthejon [0] (n=jon@cpe-65-27-173-68.cinci.res.rr.com) |
03:17:05 | | Quit testdasi ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
03:17:23 | element_G | linuxstb: thanks |
03:28:10 | | Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
03:29:35 | | Join possible248 [0] (n=Owner@71-210-185-196.mpls.qwest.net) |
03:29:50 | | Part possible248 |
03:32:05 | | Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-30-108.hlrn.qwest.net) |
03:40:42 | | Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5d881@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-5485c808dc5dd51c) |
03:44:26 | | Quit blithe (Remote closed the connection) |
03:44:36 | | Join blithe [0] (n=blithe@dsl081-139-202.chi1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
03:45:11 | | Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-70-236-36-131.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) |
03:49:15 | | Join Thaiger [0] (n=fenrir@nv-76-0-227-220.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
03:52:58 | | Quit Thaiger (Client Quit) |
03:57:47 | | Quit perldiver (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
03:58:37 | HellDragon | lol |
04:00 |
04:02:47 | | Quit Thaiger__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
04:02:55 | | Join cyphatron [0] (n=cyphatro@c80-217-233-65.bredband.comhem.se) |
04:04:27 | | Quit bonbonthejon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
04:05:10 | | Quit hannesd (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
04:05:57 | | Join gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) |
04:09:19 | | Join hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) |
04:10:27 | digerati1338 | when building a sim from SVN, what do you need to run after "make"? |
04:11:30 | BHSPitMonkey | ./whatever-the-binary-is-called? |
04:11:51 | digerati1338 | no make zip or make install? |
04:15:19 | JdGordon | make install would be goo |
04:15:20 | JdGordon | d |
04:17:52 | digerati1338 | thanks. That's what I thought |
04:20:28 | | Join Topy [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-81-173-185-242.netcologne.de) |
04:20:48 | chrisjs169 | is the build server down? |
04:22:18 | digerati1338 | I noticed the recent SVN activity page is down. Haven't tried SVN recently |
04:23:17 | JdGordon | the server was being moved... so either the move is still going, or the dns hasnt been updated |
04:24:01 | chrisjs169 | ah, ok |
04:28:00 | gursikh | afaik the move was not scheduled to complete for another couple hours |
04:28:39 | JdGordon | its 4am sweden time... i assumed it owuld be done by now |
04:29:25 | JdGordon | whats CET? in gmt? |
04:29:33 | gursikh | good point, the number they were throwing around in here may have included time for DNS propagation I guess |
04:30:09 | gursikh | GMT +1 |
04:30:27 | JdGordon | bah.. misread the www... yeah another 5 hours before move finished |
04:30:43 | JdGordon | funny time to be moving imo :p |
04:30:46 | gursikh | thought so, they said 8-9 hours at least |
04:30:53 | gursikh | lowest activity? |
04:33:08 | chrisjs169 | I guess |
04:34:09 | | Nick pabs_ is now known as pabs (n=pabs@xor.pablotron.org) |
04:38:21 | chrisjs169 | Since SVN is also down, is there any way to get a copy of the current source code? |
04:39:03 | | Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
04:40:49 | | Join theone [0] (i=43b875e9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-626817252a31788f) |
04:41:19 | theone | where can I get rockbox from at the moment due to the server maintenance...any mirrors? |
04:44:23 | | Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) |
04:44:32 | theone | doesn't have to be recent...I just haven't updated in 2 months |
04:44:44 | theone | and the day I do the server's down |
04:45:02 | chrisjs169 | theone: I have one, but it's got about 10 patches added to it.... |
04:45:08 | chrisjs169 | (for sansas) |
04:45:20 | chrisjs169 | I might be able to dig up one without patches, hold on |
04:45:23 | theone | oops, guess I should've mentioned for the iRiver h300 |
04:45:30 | theone | but if you have the source... |
04:45:31 | | Join bonbonthejon [0] (n=jon@cpe-65-27-173-68.cinci.res.rr.com) |
04:45:53 | theone | don't worry about the patches hopefully the server'll be back tomorrow |
04:46:16 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
04:47:19 | chrisjs169 | ok, I have a script to automatically compile builds for me, and it makes a backup of it with the patches included, but I've never really used it... |
04:47:22 | chrisjs169 | http://nuclearscripting.com/other/sansa/build.tar.gz |
04:48:12 | chrisjs169 | from about midnight PDT though (19 hours ago) |
04:48:24 | theone | that's fine, thanks a lot |
04:48:44 | theone | now I just gotta get cygwin workin again ;) |
04:48:54 | chrisjs169 | lol |
04:49:06 | theone | but luckily my linux box @ work is already setup |
04:49:16 | chrisjs169 | I also have the unmodified source from 4-27 |
04:49:39 | theone | this should do...I just need to update before I go out tonight :) |
04:49:43 | chrisjs169 | lol |
04:49:55 | theone | but cool, thanks |
04:50:03 | chrisjs169 | I have a rather decent server, I could compile a copy for you if you want :P |
04:50:37 | theone | it's okay...I'm already uploading the tgz to my work box |
04:50:43 | | Quit lukaswayne9 ("Ex-Chat") |
04:51:00 | theone | I should've used wget but forgot about it |
04:51:28 | chrisjs169 | lol, ok |
04:52:22 | chrisjs169 | I'm not even sure what it'll do having patches for Sansa on there... |
04:52:58 | theone | added 'features' on the h300 I guess ;) |
04:53:24 | chrisjs169 | haha |
04:53:35 | chrisjs169 | well, as long as it doesn't crash it... |
04:54:11 | theone | well it's just one night, hopefully permanent damage doesn't arise |
04:54:55 | theone | I'm already missing the back cover (hard drive/battery fully exposed :) ) |
04:55:21 | theone | good thing I still have the case |
04:55:42 | chrisjs169 | wow |
04:56:02 | | Join hardeep [0] (n=chatzill@c-24-5-74-88.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
04:56:04 | theone | not that bad actually :) |
04:56:12 | chrisjs169 | I doubt it could do permanent damage, it just might act different :P |
04:56:36 | | Join testdasi [0] (i=8a102823@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-10868216a9a61ed1) |
04:56:52 | testdasi | Does "GPIOG_OUTPUT_VAL |=0x80" turn on or off the e200 wheel led? |
04:57:00 | testdasi | Does "GPIOG_OUTPUT_VAL |=0x80" turn on or off the e200 wheel led? |
04:57:01 | theone | I probably won't even notice with the liquor and all |
05:00 |
05:02:08 | JdGordon | testdasi: on i think... best to check the code though |
05:02:23 | testdasi | thanks :D |
05:02:35 | testdasi | I look for the string GPIOG_OUTPUT_VAL and found the file |
05:02:36 | testdasi | :D |
05:02:41 | | Quit moos ("Glory to Rockbox") |
05:03:31 | | Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) |
05:04:17 | testdasi | I'm so excited, I made my sansa wheel led flashes with beat :D |
05:05:51 | testdasi | now I need to try making a menu option to turn it on/off :D |
05:08:57 | HellDragon | cool |
05:09:04 | HellDragon | testdasi: hardware mod ? |
05:10:55 | HellDragon | where can i download arm-elf-stuff for cygwin ? it seems like the links are down ? |
05:12:29 | scorche | HellDragon: wait a few hours....server migration |
05:12:43 | HellDragon | ok |
05:12:45 | | Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) |
05:14:58 | testdasi | HellDragon: nope, software. I changed the dsp.c file. Now I'm clueless about how to add a menu settings for it. :( |
05:15:01 | | Quit theone ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
05:15:41 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
05:22:54 | | Join aliask [0] (n=chatzill@c210-49-190-113.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
05:27:16 | gursikh | I wonder, would you guys be opposed to starting a ##rockbox (secondary namespace) where we could just chill and chat nonsense about rockbox and not interrupt the technical discussion here? |
05:27:37 | scorche | #rockbox-community |
05:28:09 | JdGordon | testdasi: look at menus/* and settings_list.c |
05:28:30 | | Quit Alonea (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
05:28:36 | JdGordon | specifically.... search for the button backlight setting |
05:30:05 | testdasi | JDGordon: thanks, I am looking into it |
05:30:45 | | Quit Nico_P (Remote closed the connection) |
05:32:33 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
05:40:39 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: it flashes with the beat? |
05:41:54 | testdasi | yes |
05:42:35 | testdasi | I believe so, I'm testing out the threshholds. It may not go with the "beat" but I think something close to it. |
05:42:51 | chrisjs169 | nice |
05:47:54 | | Join BRi7X [0] (i=bri7x@c-68-83-173-75.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
05:49:22 | | Join homielowe [0] (n=chatzill@207.6.216.231) |
05:51:00 | homielowe | Is there another place I can download "ipod_fw.exe" and "ipodpatcher.exe" since your server(s?) are going through migration? |
05:51:51 | BRi7X | Hello, my iPod just recently kicked the can (this time, the headphone jack). I'm totally sick of iPods now. I was looking into other similar MP3 players around the 30GB range... While this isn't a DIRECTLY related to Rockbox question, do you guys have any recommendations for a digital audio player? |
05:52:06 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
05:52:11 | BRi7X | (tell me if that message got truncated or not... i'm not quite sure of the character limit on freenode...) |
05:52:37 | homielowe | I highly recommend Gigabeat for rockbox |
05:52:45 | digerati1338 | You could look into a Sansa e200 series. They only go up to 8GB, but rockbox just got ported to them and they are very nice. |
05:52:52 | chrisjs169 | BRi7X: nope, it wasn't truncated |
05:53:16 | BRi7X | well yeah i was looking for one with a HDD and around the 30GB range... ($200-230~USD) |
05:53:22 | homielowe | The only current limitation is the magically lost battery levels on the portalplayer target |
05:53:27 | homielowe | s |
05:53:40 | BRi7X | portalplayer = ipods, right? |
05:53:49 | homielowe | BRi7X yes |
05:53:55 | BRi7X | hmm, i was looking at the iAUDIO X5, how is that compared to the Gigabeat? |
05:54:07 | BRi7X | (and, therefore, the ipod 5.5g) |
05:54:22 | testdasi | Is it possible to not to go through the entire long make process if I just want to test out 1 file? |
05:54:27 | homielowe | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BatteryRuntime |
05:56:15 | testdasi | I just adjust one number dsp.c but everytime I recompile, it takes hours to make every other files that I did not touch |
05:56:21 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: do you have ccache installed? that seems to speed it up a little |
05:56:45 | testdasi | chrisjs169: what is ccache? |
05:56:49 | BRi7X | so in other words, what's the general "best" digital audio player with those specifications (30GB~, $200-230~USD, rockbox support, etc) ? |
05:56:58 | scorche | testdasi: it will only compile what you change |
05:57:21 | scorche | Br3nda: there is no best |
05:57:25 | scorche | whoops |
05:57:29 | scorche | BRi7X: |
05:57:33 | BRi7X | by best i mean... generally preferred |
05:57:50 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: http://ccache.samba.org/ |
05:57:51 | scorche | well, everyone is different in what they want.. |
05:58:24 | BRi7X | hmm... true |
06:00 |
06:00:05 | | Join webguest59 [0] (i=45745dcc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-005a7fdf5da1ae6f) |
06:00:06 | HellDragon | hmmm |
06:00:16 | * | HellDragon eyes the migrating servers |
06:00:54 | webguest59 | chrisjs169: Earlier, you mentioned having the 4/27 unpatched source... could you make that available as you did the patched version? |
06:01:45 | testdasi | any specific instruction to use with Cygwin? |
06:02:43 | chrisjs169 | webguest59: yeah, i'll upload it...hold on |
06:02:44 | | Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
06:02:53 | webguest59 | Thanks very much. |
06:04:05 | | Join X-zEuS [0] (n=x@209-9-192-144.sdsl.cais.net) |
06:04:30 | testdasi | chrisjs169: just "ccache make"? |
06:05:20 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: rockbox should automatically detect ccache |
06:05:32 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: so when doing ../tools/configure it should mention it |
06:05:57 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: if it doesn't, do 'CC=(path to ccache)' and then do ../tools/configure |
06:06:06 | | Part X-zEuS |
06:06:23 | chrisjs169 | webguest59: it's slowly uploading to my main server, should be done in a few seconds |
06:06:47 | webguest59 | Thanks... it beats waiting four or five hours. |
06:07:18 | chrisjs169 | http://nuclearscripting.com/other/sansa/rockbox-bleeding.tar.bz2 |
06:07:39 | chrisjs169 | I have plenty of bandwidth for anyone else who wants to use it |
06:08:11 | webguest59 | Got it... thanks again! |
06:08:40 | chrisjs169 | no problem |
06:09:30 | testdasi | chrisjs169: how do I know if rockbox has already detected ccache? |
06:09:49 | testdasi | chrisjs169: I see it now :D |
06:10:27 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: yup, it's not too hard to miss once you start looking for it :P |
06:11:31 | testdasi | chrisjs169: If I want to make again. Do I just run ../tools/configure at the same folder as previously used? |
06:12:24 | testdasi | chrisjs169: as in I usually create "build" then ../tools/configure. If I make the files again, I erase the content of "build". Do I have to do that now with ccache? |
06:12:47 | | Quit hardeep ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
06:13:10 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: basically, you just act like ccache isn't even there |
06:13:42 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: although i'm not sure about erasing the contents of your build dir, but I think it should be fine if you do that |
06:14:26 | testdasi | chrisjs169: Oh. So just "../tools/configure" then "make" then "make zip" in the same folder every time? |
06:16:06 | chrisjs169 | testdasi: I *think* but I can't say for sure. It's mostly use just to speed up compiles, so doing what you normally do should work |
06:17:36 | HellDragon | heh |
06:17:48 | homielowe | I have heard it is possible to load linux on the iPods through the Rockbox bootloader, I haven't found any documentation though |
06:18:37 | scorche | hold play while booting |
06:19:33 | homielowe | scorche:thanks |
06:21:35 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
06:23:22 | homielowe | It says loading linux.... cant find linux.bin, does this relate to the kernel, or do I have to create something on ext3 partition? I'm not sure what category this falls into , relating to rockbox(bootloader) and not(linux) |
06:25:00 | testdasi | Is there a variable that can tell whether the player is in play or pause? I think dsp_process is load even when the file is cached but not playing. that's why I get flashing wheel led even when I pause (and it stop flashing after a while). |
06:25:28 | scorche | homielowe: to be honest, i have no idea |
06:26:08 | | Quit testdasi ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
06:26:08 | | Quit webguest59 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
06:26:09 | homielowe | Ok thanks for your patience, n8(deutsch) |
06:26:14 | | Quit homielowe ("ChatZilla 0.9.78 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
06:28:01 | | Part digerati1338 |
06:33:45 | | Join webguest59 [0] (i=432398ba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-ffce1445863a6762) |
06:33:55 | webguest59 | any 1 here |
06:34:13 | webguest59 | no dl links work at the site |
06:34:17 | webguest59 | for ipod |
06:34:20 | webguest59 | video |
06:36:50 | gursikh | will be down for another 2-3 hours while they move the server |
06:38:47 | | Join testdasi [0] (i=8a102823@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-4ca503af40ad1ec5) |
06:39:17 | | Quit rotator () |
06:39:50 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
06:39:57 | chrisjs169 | webguest59: don't you have the source from my site? |
06:40:08 | | Join Webgiest [0] (i=4a87b2ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-57a31d2ad6431c96) |
06:41:44 | | Quit webguest59 ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
06:43:04 | Webgiest | Does anyone know if the svn server is down or is my connection misconfigured. I have a fresh install of ubuntu. |
06:43:26 | testdasi | server down |
06:43:56 | testdasi | I think it has been down since 6 hours ago |
06:43:56 | scorche | server migration is being taken place...as you should have seen on the new bulletin on the front page |
06:43:59 | testdasi | so about 4 hours more |
06:44:06 | Webgiest | darn ok thanks I guess I'll find something else to do few the next few hours |
06:44:23 | Webgiest | *for |
06:46:20 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
06:46:27 | chrisjs169 | Webgiest: I have a copy of the source from about a week ago if you want to use that for now... |
06:47:37 | | Quit krazykit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
06:48:19 | | Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@ppp-69-208-152-93.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net) |
06:53:49 | | Quit testdasi ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
06:55:00 | | Quit aliask ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007040314]") |
06:56:20 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
06:58:21 | | Join webguest17 [0] (i=45745dcc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-41b31b833fe337b9) |
06:59:12 | webguest17 | chrisjs169: When I try to compile the 4.27 source you uploaded earlier, I get all these errors when I run ../tools/configure. Have you any idea why that might be? |
07:00 |
07:00:27 | scorche | it helps to know what errors.. |
07:01:38 | webguest17 | For example, lines 10, 13, 15, and 17 say: $'/r': command not found |
07:02:45 | | Join homielowe [0] (i=cf06d8e7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-60a185a728863eab) |
07:02:48 | webguest17 | Line 21: syntax error near unexpected token '$'{\r'' |
07:03:15 | chrisjs169 | webguest17: I can't say for sure, what is on those lines? |
07:03:27 | webguest17 | Line 21: 'input <> { |
07:04:12 | webguest17 | I really don't know how to answer that... not sure how to determine which lines are which in Notepad. |
07:04:26 | chrisjs169 | hold on, i'll take a look |
07:04:54 | | Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@c-71-205-145-105.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
07:05:10 | chrisjs169 | i *think* i removed all the patches from the latest build I was able to get earlier, so you may want to try that |
07:05:27 | webguest17 | Try removing the patches? |
07:05:48 | chrisjs169 | no, the 4/27 build is unmodified |
07:06:12 | chrisjs169 | i'm working on trying to 'mirror' the latest build before the servers went down |
07:07:16 | scorche | why? |
07:07:28 | scorche | what is so hard about waiting a few more hours? |
07:07:40 | chrisjs169 | some aren't very patient (like me :P) |
07:07:57 | webguest17 | scorche: you're probably right. |
07:08:06 | webguest17 | Fact is I ought to hit the hay. |
07:08:09 | | Part toffe82 |
07:08:29 | chrisjs169 | webguest17: those errors seem to be from blank lines.... |
07:09:51 | webguest17 | OK, I think I see what you mean in terms of blank lines... except for line 21. |
07:11:16 | webguest17 | Closed the blank lines, which took care of all the errors except the ones in line 21, which is now line 17... |
07:11:17 | chrisjs169 | line 21 seems to be converting () to <> |
07:21:54 | | Quit webguest17 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
07:27:35 | | Quit homielowe ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
07:34:10 | Webgiest | If anyone has rockboxdev.sh could you please upload it and post a link that should take an hour or two to build while we wait |
07:36:30 | scorche | rockboxdev.sh downloads patches from the download server afaik |
07:36:44 | Webgiest | darn |
07:38:25 | JdGordon | only if you want the sh gcc |
07:38:42 | scorche | JdGordon: isnt there one for arm as well? |
07:39:04 | JdGordon | hmm... seems there is |
07:39:23 | JdGordon | i can put both patches online and the script... |
07:39:42 | JdGordon | as long as the 2 patches are in ~/tmp it wont try to download them |
07:40:15 | * | scorche still doesnt know why people cant wait a few more hours |
07:41:02 | HellDragon | lol |
07:43:02 | chrisjs169 | it's because people aren't patient enough :P |
07:43:14 | chrisjs169 | and it's on a saturday....well...sunday now |
07:43:26 | scorche | if it was going to be down for a week, i could understand it, but not a few hours.. |
07:43:39 | JdGordon | Webgiest: http://users.monash.edu.au/~jdgor1/Archive.zip |
07:43:54 | Webgiest | JdGordon: thankyou |
07:44:50 | Webgiest | now I can hurry up and wait |
07:46:01 | | Join DraX [0] (n=alex@xmms2/developer/DraX) |
07:48:42 | HellDragon | angst |
08:00 |
08:04:27 | | Quit kkurbjun ("Leaving.") |
08:04:43 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
08:04:51 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
08:11:25 | | Quit Br3nda (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
08:12:03 | | Quit donutman25 ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
08:14:51 | daurnimator | JdGordon: ping |
08:14:59 | JdGordon | ho hum |
08:16:05 | daurnimator | how bout that swap - and an SD card |
08:17:26 | JdGordon | ho hum... i shold be studying :'( |
08:17:39 | DraX | i've been refactoring my python bindings for reading tagcache and I just started to implement writing support |
08:17:43 | DraX | writing ints is relativly easy |
08:17:59 | DraX | but I'm a bit easy on jumping on the writing strings band wagon without asking a couple of questions :) |
08:18:14 | DraX | a) if a string is no longer used should it be removed? |
08:18:28 | DraX | b) is there any particular order to the strings in the cache files or can i just append new ones to the end |
08:18:33 | daurnimator | JdGordon: but you're not |
08:18:46 | JdGordon | true.. :'( |
08:18:55 | JdGordon | DraX: for a lang file? or database? |
08:19:11 | DraX | JdGordon: for the tag database |
08:19:19 | * | JdGordon has no idea |
08:19:27 | JdGordon | Slasheri is the man to talk to there.. |
08:19:41 | | Join mrk [0] (n=mrk@adsl-69-153-135-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
08:21:11 | mrk | Should the server be back up soon? Earlier, I wasn't able to load any of the pages I wanted (current builds, manuals, etc.). |
08:21:17 | mrk | I tried right now, though, and I got 404s. |
08:21:24 | mrk | It's a change, at least. |
08:21:30 | DraX | yeah I was trying to go through the tagcache code earlier :) |
08:21:42 | scorche | patience! |
08:21:44 | JdGordon | 90min or so... |
08:22:28 | | Quit gursikh (Client Quit) |
08:23:51 | mrk | JdGordon: sounds good. |
08:24:08 | HellDragon | ah |
08:24:11 | mrk | I'm a long-time owner of the Rio Karma, but my battery's just about spent, my power button is screwed up... |
08:24:16 | mrk | and 20GB just isn't enough |
08:24:47 | mrk | so I ordered a 40 gig Gigabeat F with the specific intention of putting rockbox on it... |
08:24:51 | mrk | and I'm kind of anxious :) |
08:25:05 | mrk | so, uh, that's the short version of my story. I'm glad that you all requested <_< |
08:25:20 | | Join knapp [0] (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) |
08:27:44 | Slasheri | DraX: a) yes, old strings can be removed by writing binary zero as the first character in the string tag |
08:28:01 | Slasheri | DraX: b) all strings needs to be sorted for chunked browsing to work on archoses |
08:28:27 | DraX | Slasheri: ``for chunked browsing''? |
08:28:45 | HellDragon | ah |
08:28:47 | DraX | Slasheri: oh and a third question what of the multiple Xs after the nul-bit |
08:29:22 | Slasheri | DraX: try that by changing the max number on files in a dir to a very low value and disabling database in ram |
08:29:36 | Slasheri | then open some primary index, wait for disk to spin down and start scrolling |
08:29:38 | Slasheri | you will see |
08:30:08 | Slasheri | DraX: those are just to keep strings structs start address aligned |
08:30:17 | Slasheri | ipods and archoses crash if they are not aligned |
08:31:37 | DraX | Slasheri: that jerk when i scroll fast? |
08:31:54 | Slasheri | DraX: yes, it loads the next chunk from the db |
08:32:23 | Slasheri | and because the directory buffer is not long enough to hold all data, it can't sort it |
08:32:36 | Slasheri | that's why the data needs to be kept sorted |
08:32:48 | DraX | ok |
08:32:54 | DraX | so then i will need to rewrite from the changed position |
08:33:23 | DraX | Slasheri: and what exactly's meant by keeping strings struct start address aligned? |
08:34:54 | | Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
08:35:46 | Slasheri | hmm, just a moment, need to check something |
08:37:19 | | Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-138-249-132.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
08:37:36 | | Quit billytwowilly (Remote closed the connection) |
08:37:43 | | Join billytwowilly [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) |
08:39:37 | | Quit Webgiest ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
08:40:55 | Slasheri | DraX: ah, in fact i think that padding is just needed internally when database is committed next time. Because ram consumption is optimized, not the exact position of structs in the tag files are saved on the direct lookup hash table but that value is divided by some constant. And if structs are not aligned, that division goes wrong |
08:42:10 | | Join Rob222241 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b15108.dip.t-dialin.net) |
08:42:20 | DraX | Slasheri: so how do I figure out how much to pad? |
08:46:21 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
08:47:48 | DraX | Slasheri: also are all players going to have big endian databases, or do i need to figure out endianness? |
08:50:13 | Slasheri | DraX: endianess does not matter, tagcache can work on both endianesses. However, you need to detect the correct one of course when working with any existing db files |
08:50:39 | DraX | Slasheri: which was my question :) |
08:50:46 | Slasheri | DraX: just check TAGCACHE_STRICT_ALIGN places from the code |
08:50:57 | DraX | i can't till svn is back up :/ |
08:51:03 | Slasheri | you need long align them |
08:51:11 | Slasheri | oh, it's down |
08:51:43 | DraX | but i'll add it to the TODO |
08:51:54 | Slasheri | great :) |
08:53:50 | Slasheri | DraX: endianess can be detected by loading the master header from tagcache_idx.tcd and checking on which endianess it loads correctly (header magic matches) |
08:54:03 | DraX | Slasheri: I was thinking that exact thing |
08:54:17 | Slasheri | that's how tagcache does it |
08:54:32 | DraX | then i'll be in good company |
08:54:41 | Slasheri | :) |
08:54:45 | DraX | Slasheri: finally do i need to do anything special to make rockbox commit the database? |
08:55:44 | Slasheri | DraX: if you are working directly with those primary tcd files, then rockbox does not need to commit it |
08:55:55 | Slasheri | rockbox only commits the temporary tagcache_tmp.tcd file |
08:55:58 | | Join Br3nda [0] (n=brenda@121-73-1-165.cable.telstraclear.net) |
08:56:24 | DraX | is there a reason I would favor writing to _tmp over writing directly? |
08:57:10 | Slasheri | only if you want to do it the simpler way and let rockbox do all hard work :) |
08:57:28 | Slasheri | currently that _tmp file can only be used to add new entries to the db |
08:57:50 | DraX | hmm i'm a bit torn on that one |
08:58:01 | DraX | part of the reason I'm doing this is because it's slow |
08:58:15 | DraX | update/commit is annoying (particularly update, but commit is slightly annoying) |
08:58:34 | DraX | and I'd also kind of like to be able to merge playcount and friends back and forth |
08:58:41 | DraX | (wrote the bindings for a syncer) |
08:58:49 | Slasheri | hmm, you think commit is really slow? :) |
08:58:54 | DraX | Slasheri: really slow no |
08:59:36 | DraX | but slow enough that I decoded to add write support |
08:59:45 | DraX | but i'm just horribly impatient :P |
08:59:47 | Slasheri | i don't think it even can be much faster on target, because there is so much work to be done with strict resource limits. But on pc it's fast |
08:59:59 | Slasheri | :) |
09:00 |
09:00:37 | | Quit Rob2222 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
09:00:39 | DraX | i figured as much |
09:00:52 | DraX | i mean i know for reading that's the case |
09:00:54 | Slasheri | DraX: but a python library would indeed be very useful for syncing data |
09:01:15 | DraX | Slasheri: i'm already using it |
09:01:25 | Slasheri | nice |
09:01:38 | DraX | Slasheri: it reads the rockbox database and it finds songs in a specified xmms2 collection that are not in the rockbox database |
09:01:41 | DraX | and copies them over |
09:01:57 | DraX | I need to find a better way to fat32ify filenames though |
09:02:08 | DraX | some of my music just won't copy because of the unicode characters in the filename |
09:02:22 | DraX | but it's only certain unicode chracters it doesn't like |
09:03:39 | DraX | i also need to add the other direction |
09:03:48 | DraX | would like to be able to use my rockbox to get music from friends |
09:04:02 | DraX | and then have it sync over that music when I run the syncer |
09:06:30 | | Quit davina (Remote closed the connection) |
09:10:53 | | Join midkay [0] (n=midkay@rockbox/developer/midkay) |
09:13:24 | | Join davina [0] (n=davina@cpc1-sout6-0-0-cust616.sotn.cable.ntl.com) |
09:14:58 | | Quit amigan (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
09:33:21 | tHEkIND_ | Bon, 5 zodes téléchargés dans la nuit |
09:33:27 | tHEkIND_ | j'adore bittorrent |
09:34:04 | tHEkIND_ | SOrry, wrong window |
09:34:08 | | Join earHertz [0] (n=chatzill@65.244.175.100) |
09:34:24 | scorche | le sigh |
09:34:32 | mrk | le tired, here. |
09:34:58 | mrk | YAH! |
09:35:07 | mrk | the... dealies! on the site are back up |
09:35:45 | scorche | yes..the download server is back up |
09:36:12 | mrk | and the manuals |
09:36:17 | mrk | which I'll need, prolly <_< |
09:36:22 | mrk | never done this before... |
09:36:24 | scorche | which are hosted on the download server... |
09:36:31 | mrk | wish me luck, though I've heard I won't need it :P |
09:36:34 | mrk | ah, are they? |
09:36:38 | mrk | wasn't aware of that. |
09:36:56 | * | scorche points to the "download.rockbox.org" in the manual links |
09:38:06 | mrk | <_< |
09:38:19 | mrk | I'm new, give me a break >_> |
09:39:27 | tHEkIND_ | When the wps code has been totally changed ? |
09:40:09 | tHEkIND_ | 4 Apr 14:41 |
09:40:40 | tHEkIND_ | Where can i found the source code of the 3 Apri ? |
09:42:06 | earHertz | tHEkIND_: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch03s03.html |
09:42:43 | tHEkIND_ | Thxxx |
09:56:06 | mrk | uh-oh. |
09:56:14 | mrk | I have a question, if anybody is around to answer. |
09:56:42 | mrk | The manual for the gigabeat F tells me to browse to the folder "GBSYSTEM and from that into the subfolder FWIMG. These folders are hidden. Make sure that you have configured your browser to show hidden files or you may be unable to see FWIMG." |
09:57:03 | mrk | I've got show hidden files checked, but don't even see GBSYSTEM. |
09:57:10 | earHertz | general settings|show files |
09:57:25 | mrk | all that I see is DEMO_MUSIC and UMRG Sampler... |
09:57:26 | earHertz | oh, in windows |
09:57:32 | mrk | yeah, in windows <_< |
09:57:34 | mrk | fail, I know. |
09:57:54 | mrk | to be fair, I /did/ attempt linux a few times, but I'm just too ingrained with how windows operates. |
09:57:59 | mrk | back to the subject at hand, though... |
09:58:09 | earHertz | open a command line window |
09:58:16 | earHertz | cd tyo the drive teh gibabwat is on |
09:58:27 | earHertz | then try to cd GBSYSTEM |
09:58:47 | | Join bluebrother [0] (i=kAwzwaK3@rockbox/staff/bluebrother) |
09:59:16 | mrk | bah, I forget how to use command line efficiently. |
09:59:24 | mrk | (a good reason that I stopped using linux |
09:59:40 | Bagder | no, a good reason to continue using it so that you learn! ;-) |
09:59:41 | mrk | It's on drive f... tried cd f:, but I'm not sure that that worked. |
09:59:50 | mrk | I really would, if I had the time. |
09:59:55 | mrk | it was interesting, I must admit. |
10:00 |
10:00:30 | mrk | well, with cd f:, the next line was F:\, but if it actually navigated there, I should see F:\ at the end of the current line, no? |
10:00:59 | Bagder | in dos/windows you don't cd to drives afair |
10:01:19 | earHertz | oh, yeah, riht |
10:01:25 | earHertz | just type f: |
10:01:49 | mrk | heh. |
10:02:06 | mrk | alllllllrighty. |
10:02:27 | mrk | ah, I'm there. |
10:02:32 | mrk | in the GBSYSTEM folder. |
10:02:51 | | Join Entasis_ [0] (i=Jarred@ppp163-51.lns11.adl2.internode.on.net) |
10:03:04 | mrk | I should punch windows for being the bitch it is. |
10:03:15 | | Part tHEkIND_ |
10:03:17 | mrk | "Oh, you're looking at all of the files. Nothing left to see in here!" |
10:03:30 | mrk | What did I just cd to then, you fool? |
10:03:33 | mrk | <_< |
10:04:18 | mrk | okay |
10:04:22 | mrk | how do I rename the one file? |
10:04:30 | bluebrother | ren |
10:04:35 | mrk | rn filename1 filename2? |
10:04:35 | earHertz | ren oldname newname |
10:04:37 | mrk | ah. |
10:04:40 | mrk | close enough <_< |
10:04:44 | bluebrother | try ren /? |
10:04:46 | bluebrother | ;-) |
10:05:08 | bluebrother | almost all dos commands understand the switch /? |
10:06:54 | mrk | hm. |
10:07:12 | mrk | I did "ren FWIMG01.dat FWIMG01.dat.orig" |
10:07:15 | mrk | didn't work. |
10:07:28 | mrk | I'm navigated to the directory f:\gbsystem\fwimg |
10:07:55 | earHertz | does the gigabeat supported filnames > 8.3? |
10:08:04 | bluebrother | is that even the directory? Shouldn't it be f:\gbsystem? |
10:08:19 | bluebrother | that's not a gigabeat issue, it's a filesystem issue |
10:08:23 | mrk | http://download.rockbox.org/manual/rockbox-gigabeatf/rockbox-buildch2.html#x4-60002 |
10:08:36 | mrk | Starting at the root folder of your player browse into the folder GBSYSTEM and from that into the subfolder FWIMG. These folders are hidden. Make sure that you have configured your browser to show hidden files or you may be unable to see FWIMG. |
10:09:05 | bluebrother | VFAT is the extension to support longer filenames than 8.3. It is not dependend on a specific device or version of FAT |
10:09:13 | bluebrother | mrk, ok, then I was wrong :) |
10:09:27 | | Quit Entasis (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
10:09:34 | mrk | that's bad <_< |
10:09:51 | bluebrother | what OS are you using? XP? |
10:10:04 | mrk | yar, sp2. |
10:10:13 | mrk | if that matters in the slightest. |
10:10:18 | bluebrother | hmm, then the dos box should be able handling long filenames |
10:10:31 | bluebrother | can't you rename it using windows explorer? |
10:10:42 | mrk | I can't get there using windows explorer, oddly enough. |
10:10:47 | mrk | even with hidden files showing. |
10:10:50 | bluebrother | oh. |
10:11:08 | bluebrother | did you get an error message upon your rename try? |
10:11:25 | mrk | "the system cannot find the file specified." |
10:11:33 | bluebrother | hmm. |
10:11:47 | bluebrother | any other problems with the drive? Maybe there is a problem with the file system |
10:11:59 | mrk | problems? |
10:12:01 | mrk | as in...? |
10:12:17 | bluebrother | like corrupted files, other files that don't transfer / show up / etc |
10:12:26 | mrk | not to my knowledge, no. |
10:12:35 | bluebrother | hmm. |
10:12:39 | mrk | and you're referring to the pc's drive? |
10:12:48 | mrk | because I just got the gigabeat today, so I wouldn't know |
10:12:50 | bluebrother | no, to the gigabeat drive |
10:12:53 | bluebrother | ok. |
10:13:06 | bluebrother | you could just run chkdsk to make sure −− c:, then chkdsk /f f: |
10:13:12 | mrk | should I transfer some music with gigabeat room and see what happens? |
10:13:34 | bluebrother | I don't think that would help |
10:13:41 | mrk | ah, okay. |
10:13:45 | mrk | tried to check it |
10:13:51 | mrk | but it says it's being used by another process |
10:13:56 | mrk | close anything using t? |
10:14:01 | bluebrother | yes. |
10:14:02 | mrk | wait, it's asking if I want a forced dismount. |
10:14:05 | mrk | I suppose I would. |
10:14:16 | bluebrother | try that. |
10:14:31 | mrk | found no problems. |
10:14:41 | | Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") |
10:14:45 | mrk | and it's telling me that there are hidden folders, too :P |
10:14:52 | mrk | such stupidity, windows. |
10:15:12 | bluebrother | hmm. I think the command to change attributes was attrib |
10:16:25 | bluebrother | attrib -r -h -s f:\gbsystem /s |
10:16:37 | bluebrother | that should unhide and unprotect the files |
10:17:00 | mrk | file not found - F:\gbsystem |
10:17:09 | mrk | -_- |
10:17:21 | bluebrother | huh? |
10:17:28 | bluebrother | that sounds really strange |
10:17:50 | mrk | it does, considering that we know it exists. |
10:18:08 | bluebrother | hmm. Then I'm kinda out of ideas |
10:18:12 | | Quit johnzorn (Success) |
10:18:25 | bluebrother | maybe it's windows choking up, you could try a live linux of course |
10:18:29 | mrk | I'm going to try restarting. it makes no sense, but it works with windows. |
10:18:38 | mrk | bbias. |
10:18:40 | | Quit mrk ("I HAVE GO") |
10:21:02 | | Join mrk [0] (n=mrk@adsl-69-153-135-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
10:21:16 | mrk | aaand I'm back. |
10:21:31 | mrk | Just to be sure, I should be choosing "gigabeat room" on the player over WMP10? |
10:22:21 | bluebrother | no idea −− doesn't the manual tell this? |
10:22:32 | mrk | well, I'm just assuming |
10:22:46 | mrk | because if you choose wmp10, it doesn't show up as a drive |
10:22:53 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
10:22:56 | mrk | as it's an mtp device with that option |
10:25:20 | bluebrother | sorry, don't knowmuch about the gigabeat |
10:26:04 | mrk | well, it's going to be gigabeat room... |
10:26:17 | mrk | let me see if I've a livecd anywhere around |
10:30:47 | | Join raph1 [0] (n=Raphi@pub082136121134.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) |
10:30:53 | | Join ender` [0] (i=krneki@84.255.206.8) |
10:31:16 | mrk | dammit. |
10:31:22 | mrk | this wasn't supposed to be difficult. |
10:31:26 | Bagder | ender`: morning! |
10:31:32 | mrk | bllaaargh. |
10:31:38 | mrk | it's goddamn 4am, nearly. |
10:31:39 | ender` | morning :) |
10:32:42 | Bagder | ender`: so gimme a host name and a port number and I'll add your host |
10:33:36 | ender` | deepthought.ena.si, port 667 |
10:33:44 | HellDragon | hi |
10:34:08 | mrk | got the cd... |
10:34:27 | mrk | oh dammit |
10:34:32 | mrk | it's a boot one |
10:34:34 | mrk | bbias, I guess |
10:34:49 | | Quit mrk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
10:37:04 | Bagder | deepthought.ena.si added as a build server |
10:39:32 | HellDragon | lol |
10:41:59 | bluebrother | what country is si? |
10:42:42 | Bagder | Slovenia |
10:42:47 | bluebrother | ah. |
10:46:25 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
10:47:15 | | Join mrk [0] (n=mrk@adsl-69-153-135-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
10:47:24 | mrk | fuuuuuuuuuck. |
10:47:29 | mrk | all right |
10:47:35 | | Join StrafingLobster [0] (i=5b5f1a12@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-6772f3ac18d65bce) |
10:47:42 | mrk | so, when I booted ubuntu, it saw the drive automatically... |
10:47:48 | mrk | so I went to the rockbox site |
10:47:53 | mrk | followed the instrutions |
10:48:07 | mrk | already had the rockbox folder there |
10:48:18 | mrk | so I only need to rename that one file and replace it with the other one... |
10:48:28 | mrk | needed* |
10:48:38 | mrk | so once that's done, I remove the player from the dock |
10:48:45 | mrk | turn it on and off, like it says to |
10:48:55 | mrk | on again, and it boots the normal formware |
10:49:12 | mrk | so I use the little battery-off switch on the player |
10:49:20 | mrk | and then turn that back on |
10:49:24 | mrk | on boot, red error |
10:49:28 | mrk | "no system found on hdd" |
10:49:31 | mrk | fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck. |
10:49:52 | Bagder | please cut the profanities |
10:50:00 | mrk | okay. |
10:50:04 | mrk | darngosh. |
10:50:11 | mrk | can't even turn the thing off. |
10:51:29 | HellDragon | lol |
10:52:35 | mrk | that's not really funny. |
10:52:37 | | Quit mrk ("I HAVE GO") |
10:55:29 | | Quit raph1 ("Leaving.") |
11:00 |
11:03:28 | | Join bamboopuppy [0] (n=aznbasta@71-93-175-152.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
11:03:45 | bamboopuppy | hi, can anyone help me with a quick question? |
11:04:37 | Bagder | http://www.anythingbutipod.com/archives/2007/05/sandisk-sansa-connect-dissasembly.php |
11:04:44 | Bagder | not so very funny dissection... |
11:04:51 | Bagder | (of a sansa connect) |
11:05:28 | bamboopuppy | ? |
11:06:08 | Bagder | what? |
11:07:20 | bamboopuppy | oh, not sure what that was about haha =p |
11:07:26 | | Join raphi [0] (n=Raphi@pub082136121134.dh-hfc.datazug.ch) |
11:07:42 | * | Bagder leaves |
11:08:15 | bamboopuppy | would anyone be able to help me out with a few questions regarding the installation of the rockbox on my gigabeat? |
11:08:45 | bamboopuppy | im trying to locate some files which are hidden, but even when i enable to view hidden items, the files won't show on my gigabeat T__T |
11:11:07 | | Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@82.153.140.204) |
11:12:54 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
11:17:20 | | Part raphi |
11:17:54 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
11:20:14 | markun | bamboopuppy: I could help maybe |
11:20:30 | markun | the files are not only hidden but also marked as 'system files' |
11:20:43 | markun | there should be another option to show them as well |
11:24:20 | bamboopuppy | thanks markun =) |
11:24:30 | bamboopuppy | im slowly figuring it out from the forums haha |
11:24:52 | bamboopuppy | the main thing i did wrong was connecting it through the dock >__< that's why i couldn't view them |
11:25:20 | markun | bamboopuppy: maybe this would have helped: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatFXPort#Installation_Instructions |
11:25:35 | markun | it tells you how to view the files and also not to use the dock |
11:26:11 | bamboopuppy | yea, im looking at that right now ^-^ |
11:26:18 | bamboopuppy | thanks |
11:26:33 | bamboopuppy | im pretty excited haha |
11:27:09 | | Join moos [0] (n=moos@m135.net81-66-158.noos.fr) |
11:27:14 | markun | I see it the logs there was a 'mrk' guy who screwed it up a bit.. |
11:27:56 | markun | I hope he'll be back, because the problem is easy to fix |
11:28:39 | bluebrother | markun, is it right that you must not use the dock when installing on a gigabeat? |
11:28:51 | bamboopuppy | yea |
11:29:06 | bamboopuppy | if you don't use the dock, you won't be able to see the hidden files |
11:29:07 | markun | bamboopuppy: well, it depends on the setting in the OF |
11:29:17 | markun | bamboopuppy: what?? |
11:29:30 | | Join mrk [0] (n=mrk@adsl-69-153-135-218.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
11:29:32 | markun | the first one was for bluebrother :) |
11:29:34 | mrk | Got it. |
11:29:34 | markun | hi mrk |
11:29:37 | markun | good :) |
11:29:38 | bamboopuppy | markun: i tried to view the hidden folder, from the dock |
11:29:42 | mrk | hello. |
11:29:47 | mrk | transferring music now... |
11:29:53 | markun | mrk: so, what was the problem in the end? |
11:29:59 | mrk | <_< |
11:30:00 | mrk | >_> |
11:30:01 | bamboopuppy | markun: then i couldn't see the root folder, but now i can when i connected directly to the gigabeat =) |
11:30:02 | mrk | something very stupid |
11:30:05 | bluebrother | ok. This isn't noted in the manual −− maybe we should advice the users to not use the dock for installing at all? |
11:30:05 | mrk | okay. |
11:30:20 | mrk | I uh. |
11:30:23 | mrk | the rockbox folder? |
11:30:30 | mrk | I didn't have the .rockbox folder in root. |
11:30:30 | markun | bluebrother: I work on the wiki installation instructions from time to time |
11:30:34 | bamboopuppy | bluebrother: it is given on the installation guide online for twiki |
11:30:37 | markun | they should probably be replicated in the manual |
11:30:39 | mrk | I had the rockbox folder that the .rockbox folder came in :P |
11:30:51 | mrk | so once I repaired it to original status |
11:30:55 | | Join obo [0] (n=obo@82-46-82-224.cable.ubr02.trow.blueyonder.co.uk) |
11:30:57 | mrk | I re-copied just the .rockbox folder |
11:31:05 | mrk | and tried the instructions again |
11:31:07 | bluebrother | bamboopuppy, it's fine the wiki has it, but as we regularly point the users to the manual it should have it |
11:31:09 | mrk | and I'm in rockbox right now |
11:31:17 | markun | mrk: did you try rockbox on another player before? |
11:31:26 | mrk | nope. |
11:31:31 | markun | I hope you'll like it |
11:31:31 | mrk | only other player I've owned was a rio karma. |
11:31:40 | mrk | and the only firmware that could ever compete with that is rockbox. |
11:31:48 | mrk | and it still has some things that rockbox doesn't have <_< |
11:31:51 | markun | I think it's a good replacement for the karma |
11:31:55 | mrk | brilliant piece of work |
11:31:57 | mrk | oh, definitely |
11:31:59 | bamboopuppy | cool, i'm going to read the guide about how to put certain skins on and such, i'll check back in a little bit =) |
11:32:08 | mrk | me too |
11:32:15 | mrk | bamboopuppy: are you in the same situation as me? |
11:32:15 | markun | mrk: well, if you can program a little you can help adding those improvements |
11:32:23 | mrk | I wish I could :P |
11:32:26 | mrk | I know a tiny bit of java |
11:32:29 | mrk | that's all :P |
11:32:35 | mrk | and that's *worse* than nothing ;) |
11:32:37 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
11:32:40 | mrk | ooookay. |
11:32:42 | markun | nah, it's not worse |
11:32:48 | mrk | when adding music, do I just drop it in the root? |
11:32:51 | mrk | or make a music folder? |
11:32:57 | bluebrother | markun, did I got this right? The cradle think is only problematic in conjuction with the hidden system folders? |
11:33:14 | bluebrother | mrk, drop it whereever you like |
11:33:18 | bamboopuppy | bluebrother: yup |
11:33:20 | markun | mrk: I have a music folder, and also one for videos, texts, games |
11:33:28 | mrk | I'll make a music folder, then :P |
11:33:33 | mrk | I like to be organized |
11:33:41 | markun | bluebrother: no, that was just bamboopuppy thinking that :) |
11:33:42 | mrk | all my stuff is meticulously tagged, anyway |
11:34:02 | bamboopuppy | markun: if i'm correct, the gigabeat can't play videos huh? |
11:34:09 | mrk | not by default |
11:34:16 | markun | yes by default |
11:34:19 | mrk | it can with rockbox, though, right? |
11:34:24 | bamboopuppy | really? |
11:34:24 | mrk | can it? |
11:34:25 | markun | yes, that :) |
11:34:32 | markun | not with the OF no :) |
11:34:35 | mrk | well, it's 4:36; I'm tired D: |
11:34:40 | markun | sorry if I'm confusing |
11:34:41 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
11:34:46 | markun | maybe I should wake up a bit more |
11:34:50 | bamboopuppy | markun: so now that i have gigabeat, i can play videos? |
11:34:54 | mrk | I see what you meant, now that I read back |
11:35:01 | bamboopuppy | markun: oh no it's alright, you're very helpful =) |
11:35:41 | markun | bamboopuppy: it's a bit tricky, but looks very good: |
11:35:42 | markun | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PluginMpegplayer |
11:36:10 | mrk | any difference in transfer time between direct connection and connection through dock? |
11:36:31 | | Join bbatbbpc [0] (n=bb@195.16.244.188) |
11:36:38 | | Part bbatbbpc |
11:37:01 | markun | bluebrother: do you get my PMs? |
11:37:11 | markun | mrk: not with rockbox |
11:37:17 | mrk | mmmk! |
11:37:18 | bluebrother | yes. Sorry, was distracted for a second |
11:37:24 | mrk | hm |
11:37:26 | mrk | 28fps? |
11:37:31 | mrk | that's damned good! |
11:37:34 | mrk | for something this small |
11:37:43 | markun | mrk: with the original software you have a special WMP mode with is only USB 1.1 speeds |
11:37:50 | mrk | ugh. |
11:37:55 | mrk | that whole thing is trash, tbh. |
11:38:07 | mrk | transcoding all of my music to protected wma upon transfer? |
11:38:10 | mrk | utterly disgusting |
11:38:11 | mrk | flac++ |
11:38:23 | mrk | audiophile here :P |
11:38:40 | bamboopuppy | haha |
11:38:45 | mrk | hm. |
11:38:49 | mrk | so it only plays mpeg? |
11:38:54 | bamboopuppy | does it have to transcode all the music files on the player? |
11:39:07 | bamboopuppy | there should be a way around that no? |
11:39:22 | bamboopuppy | mrk: mpeg1 and 2 only from what i'm reading |
11:39:28 | markun | mrk: yes, but you need to transcode your videos to the right resolution anyway |
11:39:42 | mrk | that's a downer, as anything I'd want to watch (TV) is in avi |
11:39:44 | mrk | and transcoding isn't fun on a single-threaded proc |
11:39:44 | mrk | and an athlon 3000, at that |
11:39:44 | mrk | er. apologies. |
11:39:44 | DBUG | Enqueued KICK mrk |
11:39:44 | mrk | bamboopuppy: it would seem. |
11:39:55 | mrk | ah, true enough. |
11:40:03 | mrk | I should put all of my eps of the office on there <_< |
11:40:10 | mrk | entertaining show to watch around... |
11:40:32 | markun | the video player doesn't have seeking yet, so you have to watch it in one go :) |
11:40:40 | mrk | eh, 20 minutes long |
11:40:44 | mrk | not too much of a problem |
11:40:45 | markun | for series it's ok, but a movie.. |
11:40:50 | markun | and you can pause |
11:40:52 | mrk | yeah :\ |
11:40:59 | mrk | well, we'll get there eventually :) |
11:41:16 | markun | and people will never be happy :) |
11:41:26 | mrk | nope, never |
11:41:34 | mrk | which is the beauty of open source, of course. |
11:43:46 | bamboopuppy | markun: im kind of lost, is there a way to replace the default browsing skin with a new skin? |
11:44:00 | bamboopuppy | markun: im sorry with the questions, it's just all so new to me haha >___< |
11:44:18 | markun | in the settings there should be a 'browse themes' |
11:44:21 | | Quit linuxstb (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
11:44:22 | markun | with some other skins |
11:44:50 | markun | you can also download some from various places, but not all work with the official version of rockbox (which you are using now) |
11:46:38 | mrk | markun: downloaded the fonts |
11:46:44 | mrk | where do I put them, if you don't mind my asking? |
11:46:45 | Ctcp | Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood |
11:46:45 | * | bluebrother points to http://www.rockbox-themes.org |
11:47:03 | markun | mrk: just unzip them to you player directy |
11:47:10 | bamboopuppy | mrk: i believe you just extract them into the default directory |
11:47:19 | markun | it contains a .rockbox folder with the fonts subfolder |
11:47:43 | markun | unzip -o rockbox-fonts.zip -d /media/disk for example |
11:47:49 | mrk | I'd copy the fonts folder into the .rockbox folder present on my gigabeat? |
11:47:58 | markun | you can also do that |
11:48:32 | mrk | 'tis done. |
11:50:04 | markun | elections here in France today, the bad guy will probably win |
11:50:12 | mrk | as usual :P |
11:50:13 | | Join pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) |
11:50:14 | moos | yeah :( |
11:50:35 | * | moos will go to vote in few minutes |
11:50:41 | moos | for Segolene ;) |
11:50:45 | markun | moos: good luck as I will be fleeing the country in 2 weeks :) |
11:50:48 | | Quit BHSPitLappy (Remote closed the connection) |
11:51:09 | moos | hahaha, lucky you, you will leave the futur dictatory :) |
11:51:21 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
11:52:01 | markun | moos: you will probably be checked by the police a bit more from now on :) |
11:52:14 | moos | hehe, indeed :) |
11:52:21 | markun | those dangerous terrorists.. |
11:52:27 | moos | hahaha :D |
11:52:43 | mrk | hm |
11:52:50 | mrk | am I the only one who likes Pixel theme? |
11:52:53 | mrk | I think it's nice... |
11:52:55 | mrk | http://www.rockbox-themes.org/index.php?res=240x320x16 |
11:53:01 | mrk | search pixel... |
11:53:06 | moos | markun: "arabians are evil" :) |
11:53:13 | mrk | haha |
11:53:16 | markun | moos: and you're not even arab! |
11:53:23 | markun | ah, no, you are :) |
11:53:25 | markun | half |
11:53:27 | moos | half one |
11:53:30 | moos | yup |
11:53:38 | markun | still happy with your Gigabeat? |
11:53:52 | markun | how is the sound compared to the X5? |
11:54:10 | mrk | I think it'd be better |
11:54:15 | mrk | x5 had great sound... |
11:54:19 | moos | yeah, I didn't used it like my main dap (still my X5 for this) |
11:54:22 | mrk | but it wasn't on par with karma |
11:54:39 | mrk | and the gigabeat is supposedly pretty damn close to the karma |
11:54:44 | moos | sounds is nice, but hard to tell better betwen the 2 in term of quality sound |
11:54:51 | markun | yes.. |
11:54:53 | mrk | yeah |
11:55:04 | mrk | at levels like this, the difference is negligible, almost |
11:55:11 | mrk | what quality music? |
11:55:14 | mrk | and what headphones? |
11:55:14 | mrk | <_< |
11:55:27 | moos | markun: but the center click annoy me like old rockbox user :( |
11:56:08 | moos | that's the first target that we care about OF, that's not cool :( |
11:56:22 | markun | I didn't care about the OF that much |
11:56:27 | markun | and I came from a iriver h120 |
11:56:43 | moos | then please change mapping ;p |
11:56:43 | markun | now also the A and POWER buttons are switched for you :) |
11:56:56 | moos | hehe :) |
11:57:07 | markun | linuxstb_ is wayting for me to be on holliday to do the switch secretly :) |
11:57:17 | moos | hehe :) |
11:57:20 | | Join entheh [0] (n=purr@88-106-138-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
11:57:58 | markun | quite surprising results btw: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10178.0;viewResults |
11:58:10 | markun | at least I thought there would have been much more resistance |
11:58:36 | * | moos will go log on (not done since a long while) and go vote for consitency |
11:59:01 | markun | that's only about A and POWER btw.. |
11:59:14 | markun | if you want to complain about SELECT and A please start a new poll |
11:59:24 | mrk | so... |
11:59:28 | mrk | how would I use a new theme? |
11:59:42 | markun | mrk: if it comes with a .cfg file you can click on that |
11:59:51 | moos | markun: also, on WPS bizarre to have to ways to change volume |
11:59:55 | mrk | well |
12:00 |
12:00:00 | mrk | what I did was... |
12:00:11 | mrk | I downloaded the file and extraced, of course |
12:00:18 | mrk | then navigated through the folders |
12:00:25 | markun | moos: yes, a bit. But I don't know a better function for the buttons for now |
12:00:31 | | Part maffe |
12:00:35 | mrk | it looked to me like each theme that was already on the player was just a .wps and a folder full of .bmps |
12:00:41 | | Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) |
12:00:45 | mrk | so I copied those... |
12:00:46 | mrk | didn't work |
12:01:02 | linuxstb_ | mrk: There's also a theme .cfg file in the themes/ directory. |
12:01:03 | moos | markun: sure you will find something usufull ;) |
12:01:18 | mrk | what would I do with that, linuxstb_? |
12:01:25 | mrk | click it in rockbox's filebrowser? |
12:01:37 | linuxstb_ | mrk: Yes, or from the Browse Themes menu |
12:01:39 | mrk | forgive me if I'm way off-base |
12:01:56 | | Nick linuxstb_ is now known as linuxstb (n=linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
12:02:32 | * | moos will go vote if he doesn't want to wait like the previous time 1h30 |
12:02:52 | moos | 1h30 to wait just for vote :( |
12:03:01 | mrk | linuxstb: it's not in browse themes, though... |
12:03:05 | mrk | only the originals are |
12:03:16 | linuxstb | mrk: Then you didn't copy the theme .cfg file |
12:03:40 | linuxstb | mrk: Themes should come with the correct directory structure in the zip file - you just unzip it directly to your player. |
12:04:24 | mrk | hm. |
12:04:33 | mrk | I've been told that multiple times |
12:04:33 | linuxstb | mrk: Or use the Rockbox Utility - http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
12:04:40 | mrk | a question before I proceed with another |
12:04:50 | mrk | are you meaning to extract it to root? |
12:05:08 | bluebrother | if the theme was packed properly, yes. |
12:05:10 | linuxstb | mrk: If the zip file includes the ".rockbox" part of the path (which they should), then yes. |
12:05:12 | bamboopuppy | quick question: is there a simple way to create a playlist of songs? |
12:05:37 | bamboopuppy | or do i have to save each song onto the playlist as i go along? |
12:05:51 | mrk | ah, all right. |
12:05:52 | | Join lids [0] (i=lds@gateway/tor/x-8ba7ddc69809e351) |
12:05:54 | bluebrother | bamboopuppy, how do you exactly mean that? |
12:06:06 | markun | bamboopuppy: you can add a whole dir to the playlist |
12:06:07 | bluebrother | you can use the insert function from the context menu of the files |
12:06:13 | * | mrk is now playing: The Project Hate MCMXCIX - [When We Are Done, Your Flesh Will Be Ours #02] - Can't Wait [1:11/6:57|MP3|320kbps] |
12:06:16 | mrk | Excellence. |
12:06:18 | mrk | er, sorry. |
12:06:21 | mrk | doubt that's wanted here |
12:06:30 | bluebrother | it's not :) |
12:06:30 | scorche | it isnt =) |
12:06:31 | markun | mrk: it isn't : |
12:06:38 | mrk | my regular hangouts have lots of music-spam :P, because we share music a lot <_< |
12:06:41 | mrk | good call, self. |
12:06:55 | markun | can you enable/disable it per channel? |
12:07:03 | mrk | oh, no |
12:07:05 | scorche | markun: it is likely a command |
12:07:05 | mrk | it's manual |
12:07:21 | markun | ok |
12:07:21 | mrk | yep. |
12:07:25 | mrk | foobar2000++ :D |
12:07:39 | bamboopuppy | i'll have to fiddle around with it to get the hang of it =) |
12:08:09 | markun | bamboopuppy: try the manual, it's not perfect but it'll help you a lot I think |
12:08:14 | bluebrother | bamboopuppy, did you read the "browsing and playing" chapter in the manual? ;-) |
12:08:35 | markun | bluebrother: sorry for calling it |
12:08:38 | markun | not perfect :) |
12:08:52 | bluebrother | oh, that's perfectly ok −− it isn't perfect |
12:09:18 | bluebrother | but hopefully we can push it more towards perfection soon :D |
12:09:52 | bluebrother | I need to finish my diploma thesis first though. |
12:10:20 | mrk | "stereo width"? |
12:10:25 | mrk | wouldn't I want that at 100%? |
12:10:26 | mrk | <_< |
12:10:45 | markun | mrk: some people have it at more than 100% :) |
12:10:52 | bamboopuppy | markun: yup =) pretty good stuff in there, i'm trying to slowly follow through it to learn about the functionality of everything haha =) |
12:11:08 | bamboopuppy | it's getting late, i think i'm going to call it a night for now |
12:11:16 | markun | ok, sweet dreams |
12:11:17 | bamboopuppy | thanks for the help everyone! |
12:11:36 | bamboopuppy | markun: you've been of great help especially =p |
12:11:38 | bamboopuppy | goodnites |
12:11:49 | | Quit bamboopuppy () |
12:11:56 | | Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.231.172) |
12:12:10 | mrk | how does it work, exactly? |
12:12:19 | mrk | because my headphones are more than capable of a large soundstage... |
12:12:48 | markun | mrk: it just removes some mono from both channels I think (for > 100%) |
12:13:12 | mrk | oh. |
12:13:17 | mrk | I'll sty at 100%, then |
12:13:25 | mrk | trying to keep it pretty true to the source |
12:13:27 | mrk | save for eq <_< |
12:13:28 | markun | mrk: I don't know if you will like it, but crossfeed is nice for listening over headphones |
12:13:31 | mrk | but we'll see about that |
12:13:34 | mrk | nah |
12:13:42 | mrk | karma had it, didn't like it |
12:13:49 | mrk | e4s do an excellent job <3 |
12:14:08 | markun | for me it doesn't depend on the headphones |
12:14:21 | markun | or are you saying they have crossfeed built in? |
12:14:51 | mrk | oh, no |
12:14:59 | mrk | it's just that they're perfect as they are :P |
12:15:03 | mrk | love 'em to death |
12:15:03 | markun | ok |
12:15:35 | markun | I'm also still looking for nice in-ears |
12:15:46 | markun | to replace my crappy and broken koss "the plug" |
12:15:59 | scorche | markun: cheap i assume? |
12:16:08 | bluebrother | is "the plug" that crappy? |
12:16:12 | scorche | (that you are looking for) |
12:17:02 | markun | scorche: not too much money no |
12:17:10 | markun | remember that I am from The Netherlands after all :) |
12:17:18 | markun | (cheap bastards) |
12:17:25 | scorche | hrm...a bit offtopic...off to PMs we go! =) |
12:18:24 | mrk | markun: ever hear of head-fi? |
12:19:19 | scorche | mrk: febs, rotator, and i are the only "rockbox" people i have seen there |
12:19:42 | markun | mrk: yes |
12:21:15 | | Quit cyphatron (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
12:21:31 | | Join Lear [0] (i=chatzill@rockbox/developer/lear) |
12:22:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: Have you tried building the manual recently? I get a Makefile error that it can't find mkinfo.pl (Bagder?) |
12:22:29 | | Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p5496677D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
12:22:54 | | Join cyphatron [0] (n=cyphatro@c80-217-233-65.bredband.comhem.se) |
12:23:06 | bluebrother | linuxstb, just build the whole bunch −− worked fine here. |
12:23:36 | linuxstb | bluebrother: It works, but I get that error at the end of the build. Is it just me? |
12:24:21 | linuxstb | It seems to only be the PDF, not the HTML. |
12:24:29 | * | bluebrother checks |
12:24:31 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
12:24:48 | mrk | markun: I was just saying that they'll help you out with choosing good, cheapish in-ears. |
12:24:51 | mrk | I'm gonna go now |
12:24:53 | mrk | at 5:30 |
12:24:59 | mrk | thanks for your help, everybody |
12:25:04 | mrk | byebye |
12:25:07 | | Quit mrk ("I HAVE GO") |
12:27:16 | bluebrother | linuxstb, no error messages here at the end |
12:27:28 | linuxstb | bluebrother: What do you think of this change to the install section? http://www.davechapman.f2s.com/rockbox/manual.diff The aim is to emphasise the install steps needed for installing rockbox.zip so people don't keep skipping that step. |
12:29:17 | bluebrother | but I get another one that might be related: "cp: cannot stat `rockbox-info.txt': No such file or directory" upon sim "make install" |
12:29:33 | bluebrother | just trying a clean rebuild now ... |
12:29:44 | linuxstb | Try running configure again |
12:30:07 | bluebrother | that was my idea ;-) Waiting for my box to finish building |
12:30:18 | bluebrother | the manual diff looks fine to me |
12:30:59 | bluebrother | ok, reconfiguring solved it. I thought I had done that before. Hmm. |
12:31:20 | linuxstb | bluebrother: OK, I'll commit that manual change. |
12:31:32 | bluebrother | great |
12:33:06 | linuxstb | How do I tell svn that I've resolved a conflict? |
12:33:25 | JdGordon | remoev the .mine and .rxxxx file |
12:33:36 | * | linuxstb finds "svn resolved" |
12:33:40 | JdGordon | that too |
12:34:56 | daurnimator | JdGordon! |
12:35:22 | JdGordon | missed your chance.... gotta work from now till i pass out :p |
12:40:00 | daurnimator | :( |
12:40:07 | JdGordon | tomorow :) |
12:43:00 | | Quit Br3nda (Remote closed the connection) |
12:46:28 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
12:52:23 | | Join FOAD [0] (n=dok@dinah.blub.net) |
12:53:36 | | Join johnzorn [0] (n=jz@modemcable191.130-37-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
12:54:34 | | Quit cyphatron (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
12:56:01 | | Join borisyeltsin [0] (n=chris@68.147.49.126) |
13:00 |
13:02:37 | | Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) |
13:02:49 | | Part ctaf |
13:07:59 | | Quit billytwowilly (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
13:09:49 | | Quit FOAD_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
13:10:47 | * | chrisjs169 wakes up |
13:10:56 | chrisjs169 | wha.....SVN is up? |
13:11:38 | | Quit daurnimator ("Cyas later...") |
13:11:39 | scorche | has been for a while |
13:12:11 | chrisjs169 | yeah, well i've been sleeping :P |
13:27:29 | | Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) |
13:28:11 | | Join spiorf_ [0] (n=spiorf@host60-171-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
13:37:35 | | Quit spiorf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
13:43:40 | | Quit daurnimator (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
13:50:29 | JdGordon | Bagder: is the e260 the 4gb model? |
13:50:55 | linuxstb | JdGordon: Yes |
13:50:58 | scorche | JdGordon: google says yes |
13:53:48 | JdGordon | ok |
13:54:00 | JdGordon | got impatient and went looking for dads sansa whichc confirms it is :p |
13:54:31 | | Join synkro [0] (n=synkoAFK@81.210.246.11) |
13:56:50 | JdGordon | hmm... cant get to the hardware version without taking out more than the 4 easy screws... bugger :p |
14:00 |
14:12:37 | | Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-104-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
14:18:26 | | Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
14:21:57 | | Quit earHertz (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
14:29:54 | | Join daurnimator [0] (i=daurn@unaffiliated/daurnimator) |
14:33:46 | | Join cyphatron [0] (n=cyphatro@c80-217-233-65.bredband.comhem.se) |
14:42:58 | | Join freqmod [0] (n=freqmod@93.80-203-96.nextgentel.com) |
14:46:32 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
14:55:43 | | Join testdasi [0] (i=8a102823@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c4cd4f53cf8f79c7) |
15:00 |
15:03:07 | | Join joa [0] (n=joe@user-514dbafc.l2.c1.dsl.pol.co.uk) |
15:06:24 | | Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust1017.brig.cable.ntl.com) |
15:06:48 | Bagder | ender`: seen the sdl/ld problem? |
15:06:54 | ender` | fixed |
15:07:01 | Bagder | great |
15:07:39 | | Quit Xerion (" ") |
15:08:48 | ender` | didn't notice it hasn't finished installing yesterday |
15:09:51 | | Quit cyphatron (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
15:10:28 | Bagder | still nice to see 16 servers used |
15:10:51 | Bagder | and one of ours are still "out" |
15:11:06 | JdGordon | Bagder: did you get delayed upload going yet? |
15:11:12 | Bagder | nope |
15:11:19 | JdGordon | ok |
15:11:41 | Bagder | as in I haven't dared run my test version for that yes |
15:11:44 | Bagder | yet |
15:12:11 | * | Bagder leaves again |
15:12:30 | JdGordon | actually... looking at the speeds of the other builds.. probably no point even trying to add my server back in.. too slow |
15:14:58 | markun | Bagder: any experiments with your speed up plans yet? |
15:20:03 | | Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-81-173-185-242.netcologne.de) |
15:20:29 | ender` | btw, on H120, the messages that appear in the gray boxes are practically unreadable for me (and no contrast changes improve them), would it be possible to have the text in white instead? |
15:21:33 | JdGordon | should be a trivial change... |
15:21:49 | | Quit Topy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
15:22:37 | JdGordon | apps/gui/splash.c around line137 |
15:24:04 | ender` | let's see |
15:26:57 | JdGordon | just change the back colour to white for detph<16 should fix it |
15:28:44 | | Join webguest30 [0] (i=571583b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-500dcb8c294119ec) |
15:29:14 | | Quit webguest30 (Client Quit) |
15:30:21 | | Join fasmaie [0] (n=fasmaie@c-65-96-236-81.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
15:30:42 | | Join webguest65 [0] (i=571583b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-c85cf5a43dea0d6a) |
15:32:09 | webguest65 | hi |
15:33:05 | webguest65 | is there someone? |
15:33:13 | markun | yes |
15:33:15 | markun | me! |
15:33:28 | webguest65 | hi |
15:33:34 | webguest65 | i was searching for information |
15:33:39 | markun | ah, just ask |
15:33:47 | webguest65 | about the sigmatel 3500 |
15:34:06 | webguest65 | and the motorola 56004 |
15:34:14 | webguest65 | architecture |
15:34:16 | markun | hm, don't know anything about those chips |
15:34:34 | webguest65 | yes I saw on the website some information |
15:34:43 | webguest65 | about compilers supporting that chip |
15:34:49 | webguest65 | and i think i found one |
15:35:03 | webguest65 | but im not expert enough to test it with my mp3 player |
15:35:26 | webguest65 | even because i don't have source code of its implementation |
15:35:39 | markun | so, which compiler did you find? |
15:36:04 | webguest65 | yes I found the one by tasking company |
15:37:43 | ender` | ok, this looks much better |
15:37:48 | | Join voltagex [0] (n=voltagex@124-254-125-78-dsl.ispone.net.au) |
15:37:56 | voltagex | anyone awake? |
15:38:12 | voltagex | is it at all possible to play AAC that has been ripped from an mpeg-4? |
15:38:31 | | Quit synkro ("Ex-Chat") |
15:39:27 | webguest65 | http://www.tasking.com/support/DSP56xxx/DSP5600x_v3_5r3_p2.zip |
15:39:27 | webguest65 | here it is |
15:39:34 | webguest65 | it's a patch for his EDE platform |
15:39:55 | webguest65 | but it contains executable c56 |
15:40:06 | webguest65 | which compiles c -> 56k opcodes |
15:40:08 | webguest65 | i suppose |
15:40:56 | | Join Xerion [0] (i=xerion@vhe-382201.sshn.net) |
15:41:15 | webguest65 | it should work for dsp56k i suppose |
15:41:19 | webguest65 | and so for the sigmatel |
15:41:31 | webguest65 | which is said to be compatible |
15:42:17 | webguest65 | there's also a guide on their website |
15:42:22 | webguest65 | for that compiler |
15:42:33 | linuxstb | voltagex: Do you mean a raw AAC file, no container? |
15:43:22 | voltagex | linuxstb: I'm unsure, I just ripped the AAC from an x264 MP4 file using a CLI utility that I now can't remember |
15:43:58 | linuxstb | Rockbox doesn't support raw AAC, so if that's it, you'll need to mux it into an mp4 container. |
15:44:06 | voltagex | linuxstb: you're the linuxstb that wrote dvbtools ?! |
15:44:14 | voltagex | linuxstb: ok, thanks |
15:45:23 | linuxstb | voltagex: Yes, but don't hold that against me. |
15:45:33 | markun | webguest65: I hope someone who has use for it will read the logs |
15:45:38 | voltagex | linuxstb: can I ask you a question about that? |
15:45:46 | linuxstb | voltagex: Sure, PM would be best... |
15:46:05 | webguest65 | mmm |
15:46:16 | webguest65 | yes |
15:48:23 | | Quit spiorf_ (Remote closed the connection) |
15:50:19 | | Part qwedsa |
15:50:51 | | Part xaiki |
15:53:15 | | Quit _pill (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
15:54:51 | | Join _pill [0] (i=pill@sloth.shellfx.net) |
15:57:12 | webguest65 | is there a tool to parse STMP3500 resource.bin files? |
15:57:39 | webguest65 | i mean to obtain back .src files |
15:57:45 | webguest65 | or at least data sections |
15:58:07 | webguest65 | from firmware file |
15:58:40 | | Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
15:58:50 | | Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D08.dip.t-dialin.net) |
16:00 |
16:01:39 | | Quit Lear ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
16:01:44 | JdGordon | webguest65: google says no... |
16:03:41 | | Join Pimpdaddypayne [0] (n=Tux@cpe-065-184-162-064.ec.res.rr.com) |
16:03:41 | webguest65 | yes i know google says no, i was asking to you infact |
16:03:44 | webguest65 | not to google |
16:03:46 | webguest65 | :P |
16:03:53 | webguest65 | :P |
16:04:04 | webguest65 | ehm sorry lag |
16:04:10 | | Join nls [0] (n=nils@nl104-202-175.student.uu.se) |
16:04:20 | Pimpdaddypayne | In fdisk, I've changed the # of cylinders, and wrote the partition table , but when i fdisk the device again, it is if the partition table didn't take |
16:04:30 | webguest65 | anyway i think i'm going to code it |
16:04:44 | webguest65 | because the resource.bin format is very simple |
16:04:54 | | Join webguest21 [0] (i=81310587@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-f9b96e29afedea82) |
16:05:48 | webguest21 | what |
16:05:53 | | Quit webguest21 (Client Quit) |
16:08:50 | | Join gursikh [0] (n=khalsa@unaffiliated/gursikh) |
16:12:07 | | Quit webguest65 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
16:16:23 | | Quit Xerion (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:16:28 | | Join Xerion_ [0] (i=xerion@vhe-382201.sshn.net) |
16:18:14 | | Quit lee-qid ("aufwiederbyebientotsayonara") |
16:18:39 | | Join voltagex_ [0] (n=voltagex@124-254-125-78-dsl.ispone.net.au) |
16:18:49 | | Join lee-qid [0] (n=liqid@p549676CC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
16:20:08 | | Quit secleinteer (Connection reset by peer) |
16:20:26 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-200-11.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) |
16:23:44 | | Quit secleinteer (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:24:02 | | Join secleinteer [0] (n=secleint@adsl-70-237-200-11.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net) |
16:26:35 | | Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
16:26:55 | | Quit voltagex_ () |
16:30:14 | | Quit Entasis_ (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:40:32 | | Quit voltagex (Connection timed out) |
16:41:10 | | Part fasmaie |
16:46:33 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
16:49:34 | | Quit testdasi ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
16:49:52 | | Quit Topy44 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
16:50:31 | JdGordon | anyone got any ideas why the sansa backlight starts turned off but all other targets are fine? |
16:50:50 | | Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-87-78-83-64.netcologne.de) |
16:51:10 | linuxstb | Maybe the bootloaders turn it on on other targets? |
16:52:09 | JdGordon | no, the backlight is on for the bl, then as soon as the rockbox logo comes on it turns off... |
16:52:15 | JdGordon | even if the setting is set to on! |
16:53:57 | | Join webguest58 [0] (i=5484cd72@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-fc86a94118a8b718) |
16:55:02 | | Quit webguest58 (Client Quit) |
16:56:50 | | Quit Pimpdaddypayne ("Leaving") |
16:58:10 | JdGordon | yay fixed it :) |
16:58:22 | JdGordon | not setting a default brightness is apparently bad |
16:59:36 | | Join Domonoky [0] (n=Domonoky@p549addaa.dip.t-dialin.net) |
17:00 |
17:03:35 | | Part TrueJournals |
17:04:32 | | Join Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b179fa.dip.t-dialin.net) |
17:05:20 | | Part element_G ("Kopete 0.12.4 : http://kopete.kde.org") |
17:08:11 | | Quit himitsu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
17:08:33 | JdGordon | more 64bit sim problems? |
17:13:21 | linuxstb | JdGordon: No, I think ender's new build server was missing SDL. |
17:13:43 | JdGordon | ah ok |
17:13:48 | ender` | btw, speaking of sims, my server is 64bit, is that a problem? |
17:14:00 | linuxstb | Other servers are as well. |
17:14:10 | ender` | ok |
17:16:40 | chrisjs169 | i'm getting a seg fault while trying to build a sim (collect2: ld terminated with signal 11) |
17:16:49 | chrisjs169 | any ideas how to fix that? |
17:18:58 | | Join spiorf [0] (n=spiorf@host60-171-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
17:19:52 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: did you update binutils recently? |
17:20:11 | JdGordon | iirc one of the distros put a broken binutils in its repo? or something |
17:20:24 | chrisjs169 | nope, should i update it? |
17:20:38 | chrisjs169 | normal builds compile fine, it's just sims |
17:20:46 | JdGordon | missing sdl-del? |
17:20:50 | JdGordon | dev* |
17:21:28 | chrisjs169 | it's installed via apt-get....should I try from source? |
17:21:45 | | Quit Rob222241 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
17:21:48 | JdGordon | na |
17:22:08 | chrisjs169 | ok |
17:22:27 | JdGordon | I dunno... i know some of our servers has similar problem.. |
17:23:13 | * | JdGordon shuts up |
17:23:17 | chrisjs169 | weird |
17:24:20 | JdGordon | ah HA... im not crazy... http://build.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=20070502T171440Z&type=iAudio%20M5%20-%20Simulator#prob1 is the error your getting? |
17:24:54 | JdGordon | obo: what did you do to fix your server with the sim ld segfaulting? |
17:25:11 | chrisjs169 | yup, that's it |
17:25:16 | JdGordon | Bagder: servers need kicking again... |
17:25:22 | chrisjs169 | lol |
17:27:35 | | Join tHEkIND [0] (n=C4AvaYiH@lns-bzn-50f-62-147-178-8.adsl.proxad.net) |
17:27:47 | | Quit krazykit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
17:28:57 | | Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-249-199.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) |
17:30:33 | chrisjs169 | wait |
17:30:43 | | Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@e181091035.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
17:30:57 | chrisjs169 | i was bored yesterday waiting for the build server to come back up and upgraded everything... |
17:31:54 | JdGordon | could be it... |
17:32:20 | JdGordon | try upgrading binutils... if that desnt work.. try downgrading it :D |
17:32:27 | | Join Nico_P [0] (n=nicolas@jau31-3-82-239-20-145.fbx.proxad.net) |
17:33:17 | | Join ice8lue [0] (n=ice8lue@L77b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) |
17:33:35 | ice8lue | hey everybody... i need help with my sansa rockbox |
17:34:08 | chrisjs169 | binutils was the newest version, just downgraded to 2.15, caused some other error |
17:34:15 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: what do you need help with |
17:34:28 | ice8lue | im using the actual build of chrisjs from anythingbutipod.com .... the scrollwheel is flickering all the time, even if i set it off |
17:34:32 | ice8lue | what is this? |
17:34:57 | nls | ice8lue: unofficial build are not supported by us |
17:35:12 | ice8lue | yes, but chrisjs is here^^ |
17:35:13 | chrisjs169 | ah, my build :P |
17:35:50 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: that's from JdGordon's HDD Led build.....try using rockbox2.zip (same thing, just without that patch) |
17:35:57 | chrisjs169 | http://nuclearscripting.com/other/sansa/rockbox2.zip |
17:36:07 | | Join webguest42 [0] (i=c7004102@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-011dc65454925e25) |
17:36:26 | JdGordon | that hack was actually put into a build! :O |
17:36:56 | chrisjs169 | i thought it was cool :P |
17:37:21 | chrisjs169 | I get bored rather easily though, so staring at a flashing light can be entertaining at times... |
17:37:21 | ice8lue | well...i was a little scared because i dont think it is good for the leds |
17:38:11 | JdGordon | chrisjs169: you want the peak meter button light patch then |
17:38:11 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: I haven't had any problems with my LEDs, but JdGordon made that patch, so ask him if it's safe :P |
17:38:14 | ice8lue | aaaah, much better, thank u =) |
17:38:24 | webguest42 | chrisjs169: I'm the guy who was here last night looking for source code. The reason was because my compilations were suddenly having the problem that jdgordon just fixed. |
17:38:47 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon: but that doesn't flash as much =/ |
17:38:48 | chrisjs169 | lol |
17:38:58 | chrisjs169 | webguest42: huh? |
17:39:05 | webguest42 | Your build from the ABI forum didn't exhibit that behavior (backlight turning off on boot) and I wannted to figure out why. |
17:39:26 | webguest42 | But now I see he's figured it out and fixed it.... good deal. |
17:39:44 | ice8lue | ya...thats working now^^ |
17:40:00 | chrisjs169 | that all just confused me....what is it that's fixed now? |
17:40:23 | ice8lue | ah, another thing.... how to get the albumart working? the patch is installed, the theme supports it, but where do i have to locate the images? |
17:40:30 | webguest42 | The issue with the backlight turning off when you boot Rockbox. My Sansa suddenly started doing this a couple of days ago. |
17:40:39 | chrisjs169 | JdGordon: binutils 2.17-3 works properly on sims |
17:40:48 | webguest42 | Then I tried your ABI build(s) and for some reason, they didn't do this. |
17:40:49 | JdGordon | :) |
17:41:08 | | Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) |
17:41:21 | webguest42 | So that's why I was so impatient last night looking for unmodified source. |
17:41:28 | | Quit ice8lue (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
17:41:30 | chrisjs169 | webguest42: ah, ok |
17:41:48 | chrisjs169 | so my build is working 'properly'? |
17:42:06 | | Join ice8lue [0] (n=ice8lue@L77b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) |
17:42:30 | ice8lue | stupid chatzilla^^ |
17:42:37 | webguest42 | Yes it is. I want to try to replicate it on my own. Nothing like reinventing the wheel. :-) |
17:43:10 | chrisjs169 | webguest42: ok, talking to three people while trying to fix a compiling issue gets confusing...glad everything's working |
17:43:11 | JdGordon | replicate what? |
17:43:29 | webguest42 | OK... thanks, all. DOn't want to cause confusion. Out. |
17:43:34 | ice8lue | ^^ |
17:44:18 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: this wiki article should help: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/AlbumArt |
17:45:11 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: they're placed in the same directory as the music or the parent directory |
17:45:34 | | Part tHEkIND |
17:45:54 | ice8lue | ah ok, thx |
17:46:14 | ice8lue | =/ this will be a lot of fun to convert all of these jpgs....^^ |
17:46:26 | bluebrother | hmm. Do we want any dependency on the itunesdb? |
17:46:33 | chrisjs169 | there's probably a batch converter somewhere |
17:46:42 | bluebrother | IMO we should reject FS #5942 −− any comments? |
17:47:30 | JdGordon | yep.. go for it |
17:47:41 | JdGordon | out db > itdb :D |
17:47:48 | ice8lue | lol |
17:48:19 | chrisjs169 | yay, two mins compile time for a color sim |
17:48:41 | linuxstb | bluebrother: I'm not sure. I personally don't want to touch the itunesdb, but on the other hand, I can see why people who use itunes and the Apple firmware would want that feature. |
17:48:44 | ender` | are there any plans to include apev2 tag support on mp3 files? |
17:48:47 | | Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
17:49:58 | markun | ender`: there has been a patch for years |
17:50:10 | | Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i59F449BE.versanet.de) |
17:50:11 | ender` | markun: i know, i'm using it |
17:50:21 | markun | but I think the idea is to avoid having multiple taggin systems for a format |
17:50:28 | | Join ccitt [0] (n=ccitt@c-71-233-155-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
17:50:32 | ccitt | hey all |
17:50:39 | markun | just as oggvorbis with id3v2 is nut supported |
17:50:49 | markun | not |
17:50:59 | ender` | well, vorbis has built-in tagging, but mp3 doesn't |
17:51:09 | linuxstb | ender`: Also, it can't be done cleanly until at least the id3 parsing code is moved from firmware/ into apps/ with the rest of the metadata parsing code. |
17:51:28 | ccitt | is there a quick checklist of things i need for a cross-compile setup on linux to start working with the latest svn sources for arm/ipod5g? |
17:51:28 | | Quit webguest42 ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
17:51:41 | ender` | which reminds me, what tags are supported on mpc files? |
17:52:01 | ice8lue | are there any plans to include some kind of party mode to rockbox so it plays randomly chosen songs without having the user to change the play options? i think this would be a quiet good feature |
17:52:18 | linuxstb | ccitt: Just the ARM versions of gcc and binutils. Plus the usual tools such as make, perl, bash etc |
17:52:28 | ccitt | cool |
17:52:30 | nls | ice8lue: we have shuffle |
17:52:33 | ccitt | so no weird libs or anything? |
17:52:42 | linuxstb | ccitt: No, Rockbox is completely self-contained. |
17:52:50 | ccitt | thanks linuxstb |
17:52:51 | ccitt | <3 |
17:52:54 | bluebrother | linuxstb, I can see those reasons too. But do we really want to have something like that in Rockbox? I don't think anyone wants to touch the itunesdb ;-) |
17:53:03 | ccitt | nooo |
17:53:05 | ccitt | i know i dont |
17:53:07 | | Join toffe82 [0] (n=chatzill@ppp-71-138-19-35.dsl.frs2ca.pacbell.net) |
17:53:07 | ccitt | BUT |
17:53:09 | ice8lue | nls: yes but this needs changing options twice^^ ppl are lazy |
17:53:11 | linuxstb | bluebrother: "Rockbox" could also include Rockbox Utility... |
17:53:31 | ccitt | does anyone know if the following have been fixed in ipod5g (im using october 2006 binary on mine): |
17:53:33 | bluebrother | hmm. Good point. |
17:53:39 | ccitt | battery maxing out at 75% |
17:53:40 | Domonoky | ccitt: and you can get the needed crosscompileres via rockboxdev.sh in the tools dir.. |
17:53:47 | ccitt | and no usb worky except in ipiod fw? |
17:53:53 | nls | ice8lue: you could also create a long shuffled playlist, and start that |
17:54:01 | ender` | damnit, the batteries in my mouse are empty, and i forgot to charge the replacements :p |
17:54:04 | ccitt | oh sweet - i was just gunna apt-get or compile them myself |
17:54:09 | | Join kkurbjun [0] (n=kkurbjun@c-71-56-227-141.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
17:54:53 | ccitt | hmmm - i should look into porting a python interpreter onto the rockpod ;) |
17:55:00 | nls | ccitt: the script will download the sources and build the right crosscompilers |
17:55:04 | ccitt | awesome |
17:55:45 | ccitt | i keep finding myself getting aggrivated at quirks in my older copy of the binaries, then i realizzed "wait! im a programmer! duh.." |
17:55:55 | ccitt | ;) |
17:56:03 | ice8lue | well...ok |
17:56:15 | nls | a lot has happened since october... |
17:56:20 | ccitt | not much - minor instabilities in my build mainly |
17:56:24 | ccitt | i know |
17:56:29 | ccitt | im first guna try the latest |
17:56:40 | ccitt | but i do have some ideas for patches ifd like to try out on mine |
17:56:59 | ccitt | im sure most of the instabilities are already gone |
17:57:27 | linuxstb | ccitt: If you're upgrading from an old version of Rockbox, you'll probably need to upgrade the bootloader as well. |
17:57:37 | ccitt | will i? ok |
17:57:53 | | Quit merbanan (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
17:57:58 | linuxstb | It's easy now though - just download ipodpatcher and run it. Links and instructions are in the manual. |
17:58:26 | ccitt | oh - ok (didnt really call it hard before ;) |
17:58:51 | | Join krazykit [0] (n=kkit@adsl-69-219-236-150.dsl.ipltin.sbcglobal.net) |
18:00 |
18:00:54 | | Quit JdGordon ("Konversation terminated!") |
18:01:18 | chrisjs169 | what kind of bandwidth could i expect by letting rockbox use my computer for builds? |
18:02:37 | nls | chrisjs169: builds are about 2mb in size and an average of maybe 10 are made each day, and only the target bulds are sent back, svn updates are probably pretty small |
18:03:04 | | Quit gursikh (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) |
18:03:18 | chrisjs169 | so it wouldn't be too bad? |
18:04:49 | nls | I'd guess the used bandwith is very little maybe 5mb down 20mb up or so |
18:04:52 | nls | per day |
18:06:14 | nls | if you are concerned you can ask bagder to only let your server do sim and bootloader builds, they are not sent back to the master server |
18:06:45 | | Quit atsea- (Remote closed the connection) |
18:09:29 | | Quit Guile (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
18:09:49 | | Join Guile [0] (n=Guile@88-138-249-132.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
18:10:27 | | Join Soap_ [0] (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) |
18:10:50 | | Quit Soap (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) |
18:11:20 | chrisjs169 | i'm not too concerned, but I only have 49 kb/s up, so i wasn't sure if it'd be fast enough |
18:11:25 | | Join WEbgiest [0] (i=4a87b2ea@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-1c402718ed80852e) |
18:12:13 | linuxstb | 49 kbits or kbytes? |
18:13:16 | chrisjs169 | kbytes |
18:13:38 | linuxstb | Then I think that's OK - it's probably about average. |
18:13:55 | | Join OPP [0] (n=Daniel@c-68-60-254-132.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
18:13:59 | | Nick BHSPitMonkey_ is now known as BHSPitMonkey (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-104-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
18:14:24 | ice8lue | cu |
18:14:26 | | Quit ice8lue ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
18:14:32 | chrisjs169 | ok |
18:15:40 | chrisjs169 | what's the minimum limitation for ram? I've got 512 MB in it now, but can add a gig more |
18:16:43 | linuxstb | chrisjs169: Have you read the wiki page? http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/BuildServer |
18:16:57 | | Part OPP |
18:17:30 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb: yeah, I have it open now. it didn't mention anything about ram though, so I wanted to make sure |
18:18:39 | | Join jake_ [0] (n=jake@24-155-14-227.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
18:19:09 | | Join freqmod_n [0] (n=freqmod@93.80-203-96.nextgentel.com) |
18:19:46 | | Join knapp_ [0] (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) |
18:21:13 | linuxstb | chrisjs169: The main thing is simply how fast it can do Rockbox builds. |
18:24:32 | | Quit knapp ("Leaving") |
18:24:40 | | Nick knapp_ is now known as knapp (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) |
18:25:05 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb: ok |
18:26:47 | | Quit YouCeyE (Remote closed the connection) |
18:31:52 | | Quit freqmod (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
18:33:20 | | Quit WEbgiest ("CGI:IRC (EOF)") |
18:35:29 | | Quit barrywardell () |
18:37:40 | | Join hiho [0] (n=beachrec@198.23.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
18:39:56 | | Join ice8lue [0] (n=ice8lue@L77b9.l.strato-dslnet.de) |
18:41:08 | ice8lue | hey...its me again... |
18:41:14 | | Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i59F447A1.versanet.de) |
18:41:53 | | Quit hax ("irssi restart") |
18:42:05 | ice8lue | (album art problem) i did exactly what was said in the wiki.... converted all cover.jpg's into bmp files and placed them in their album-directory. but the themes still dont show them |
18:42:27 | bluebrother | Rockbox doesn't support album art. You need a patched build |
18:42:33 | ice8lue | i got one |
18:42:43 | ice8lue | also the theme has aa enabled |
18:45:09 | markun | ice8lue: maybe ask the guy who made the build or the patch |
18:45:42 | | Quit Rincewind (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
18:46:16 | ice8lue | chrisjs169: could u help me? |
18:46:24 | | Quit Rob2222 (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | NSplit | pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
18:46:24 | | Quit BHSPitMonkey (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit pearldiver (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit hannesd (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit lostnihilist (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Jon-Kha (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit jhMikeS (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Lynx_ (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Seed (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Siku (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Slasheri (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit lex (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Neovanglist (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:24 | | Quit Bjoern-Erik (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) |
18:46:34 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
18:46:53 | NHeal | pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Rob2222 [0] (n=Miranda@p54b179fa.dip.t-dialin.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | BHSPitMonkey [0] (n=stephen@adsl-67-64-104-112.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | pearldiver [0] (n=say@cpe-72-225-231-80.nyc.res.rr.com) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | hannesd [0] (n=light@gate-hannes-tdsl.imos.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@c-24-1-62-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Jon-Kha [0] (n=Jon-Kha@a91-152-87-243.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | jhMikeS [0] (n=jethead7@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Lynx_ [0] (n=lynx@tina-10-4.genetik.uni-koeln.de) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Seed [0] (i=ben@bzq-84-108-237-178.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Siku [0] (n=Siku@f303b.w3.tontut.fi) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Neovanglist [0] (n=Neovangl@chrisg.neovanglist.net) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Bjoern-Erik [0] (n=unknown@250.80-202-105.nextgentel.com) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | lex [0] (i=lex@evot.us) |
18:46:53 | NJoin | Slasheri [0] (i=miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) |
18:47:50 | * | chrisjs169 is back |
18:48:24 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: yeah, give me a minute to read through everything |
18:48:32 | ice8lue | ok^^ |
18:48:41 | chrisjs169 | (more like 10 lines....didn't miss much) |
18:49:18 | | Join atsea- [0] (i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-12beadeb44632892) |
18:49:21 | | Quit luckz (Remote closed the connection) |
18:49:23 | | Join luckz [0] (n=luckz@luckz.de) |
18:49:35 | chrisjs169 | ice8lue: I've never really used album art before, so let me check and see if it works on my sansa |
18:49:42 | ice8lue | ok |
18:50:25 | * | ender` doesn't have any bandwidth usage concerns about his server - the link is currently 10/2, and will soon be 10/10 :) |
18:52:06 | ice8lue | ah, i got it...just the resolution of the pics was too high |
18:53:12 | | Join Arathis [0] (n=doerk@p5484a7e5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
18:53:15 | chrisjs169 | ah, ok. just noticed that mine was working, so was starting to wonder why yours wasn't |
18:54:23 | | Quit lostnihilist (Connection timed out) |
18:54:41 | ice8lue | ya....my pics were 200x200 coz i thought it would resize them itself |
18:54:53 | chrisjs169 | ok |
18:55:42 | | Join Topy [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-87-78-83-64.netcologne.de) |
18:57:25 | ice8lue | thx anyways |
18:57:29 | | Join lostnihilist [0] (n=lostnihi@c-24-1-62-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
19:00 |
19:00:33 | | Quit robin0800 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
19:01:15 | | Join Hilikus [0] (n=rockero@bas4-montreal19-1242419325.dsl.bell.ca) |
19:02:06 | | Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
19:02:20 | | Join robin0800 [0] (n=robin080@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust1017.brig.cable.ntl.com) |
19:03:55 | | Quit knapp (Remote closed the connection) |
19:06:23 | | Quit ice8lue ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
19:07:49 | | Quit jake_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
19:10:17 | ccitt | where can i create an account to check in patches to svn? |
19:10:26 | | Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@85.30.90.118) |
19:10:42 | nls | ccitt: you can't make one yourself |
19:10:52 | ccitt | where do i request one then? |
19:10:53 | nls | "the swedes" are the ones that can |
19:10:56 | Domonoky | ccitt: you put patches on flyspray, and nag devs to commit it here :-) |
19:11:03 | ccitt | aah |
19:11:05 | ccitt | fair nuff |
19:11:21 | ccitt | well i guess ill wory about the details when i have the patches to submit ;) |
19:12:01 | nls | Developers that post good patches usually get svn access sooner or later |
19:12:11 | Jeton | The latest build doesn't have http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7087 on sansa. Is this because of the server downtime? |
19:12:14 | ccitt | i see - thats cool |
19:13:58 | nls | Jeton: yes, the buildsystem is hug |
19:14:00 | nls | hung |
19:14:19 | Jeton | okay ,thanks. |
19:15:05 | | Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) |
19:15:05 | Jeton | And thank you jdgordon, for accepting my feature request. |
19:15:17 | | Part ctaf |
19:16:41 | | Join Topy44 [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-87-78-83-64.netcologne.de) |
19:18:30 | | Join digerati1338 [0] (n=Mike@70-59-30-108.hlrn.qwest.net) |
19:18:54 | Hilikus | why isnt the custom line patch commited? it sounds like a great patch |
19:19:15 | Hilikus | its so out of sync that its not even funny. im trying to sync it |
19:20:14 | ccitt | custom line patch? |
19:25:48 | bluebrother | what custom line? |
19:26:13 | bluebrother | there are a couple of patches that look nice first, but they solve a problem the wrong way |
19:28:16 | | Join The-Compiler [0] (n=florian@246.55.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
19:28:20 | The-Compiler | Hello |
19:28:28 | The-Compiler | What is rbutil? |
19:28:54 | Nico_P | The-Compiler: it's a program that helps install and uninstall rockbox |
19:30:14 | The-Compiler | Ahh, rbutil means Rockbox utility |
19:30:18 | bluebrother | http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility |
19:30:49 | | Join hax [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) |
19:31:54 | | Quit hax (Client Quit) |
19:31:59 | | Join hax [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) |
19:33:25 | | Quit johnzorn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
19:33:39 | | Join merbanan [0] (n=banan@83.233.231.172) |
19:33:48 | | Join YouCeyE [0] (n=YouCeyE@unaffiliated/youceye) |
19:34:11 | | Quit Topy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
19:34:18 | | Join Topy [0] (n=Topy44@xdsl-87-78-83-64.netcologne.de) |
19:34:48 | | Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@91.84.86.142) |
19:35:16 | bluebrother | The-Compiler, hows the podcast thingy going? |
19:36:53 | | Quit Topy44 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
19:38:44 | | Quit hax ("one more config change") |
19:39:56 | | Join Gursikh [0] (n=Gursikh@unaffiliated/gursikh) |
19:41:11 | Hilikus | bluebrother: why the wrong way? |
19:41:17 | Hilikus | because they break something else? |
19:41:33 | Hilikus | and i was talking about this |
19:41:35 | Hilikus | http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5900 |
19:41:48 | Hilikus | thats the only patch ive seen to customize lines, is there a better one? |
19:42:08 | | Nick Soap_ is now known as Soap (n=Soap@rockbox/staff/soap) |
19:42:40 | bluebrother | Hilikus, that patch will be obsolete (at least the positioning part) when viewports come in |
19:42:53 | Hilikus | i think by now rb should have already a builtin way to change colors+fonts |
19:42:54 | bluebrother | and viewports have been agreed upon to be a good thing |
19:43:00 | Hilikus | oooh ok |
19:43:03 | Hilikus | that i didnt know |
19:43:11 | | Join hax [0] (n=hax@web.atl.citynetwireless.net) |
19:43:12 | bluebrother | also, that task cumulates a couple of patches in one |
19:43:15 | Hilikus | i dont even know what they do, where can i read about thum |
19:43:30 | | Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@71-10-136-176.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
19:43:33 | Hilikus | and whens the ETA |
19:43:39 | bluebrother | and a patch (to get a chance for inclusion) should always address only one thing |
19:43:44 | bluebrother | we don't estimate times |
19:43:57 | Hilikus | oh i see now why it wasnt included |
19:44:08 | Hilikus | thanks for clarifying |
19:44:44 | Hilikus | ohh i think i did read about viewports, arent they like a new way to package wps without using line parsing? |
19:45:31 | | Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5d881@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-b97addb53bedabc2) |
19:45:59 | bluebrother | Hilikus, check this page: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/ViewPorts |
19:46:06 | Hilikus | thanks |
19:46:48 | | Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
19:46:59 | | Join Thundercloud [0] (n=thunderc@91.84.86.142) |
19:47:47 | Hilikus | it sounds like java layouts |
19:48:41 | bluebrother | possibly. The exact way how viewports should work is documented in amiconn's head, so don't take that page too literally |
19:48:56 | Hilikus | so you said you dont have estimate times, what defines the amount of work into it? |
19:49:35 | bluebrother | the thing is that people will work on features when they want, not when somebody would like a feature |
19:49:43 | Hilikus | that makes sense |
19:49:50 | bluebrother | so there are no time estimates when someone will start working on it. |
19:50:04 | bluebrother | according to amiconn implementing viewports wouldn't be too hard. |
19:50:14 | Hilikus | and there are no teams but one guy in charge of it it seems? |
19:50:24 | bluebrother | but he might be the better person to talk to about viewport details |
19:50:34 | Hilikus | cool, thanks for the info |
19:50:46 | bluebrother | no −− it's like anybody could start working on it |
19:51:08 | bluebrother | but most devs don't consider it important or have other priorities |
19:51:28 | bluebrother | and it of course also depends on what parts of the code a dev knows. |
19:51:38 | Hilikus | that makes sense too, these are just nice guys spending time in a cool project |
19:52:02 | bluebrother | yes −− that's the way most open source projects work |
19:53:01 | Hilikus | someone should pay the rb devs, its a really powerful project |
19:53:32 | bluebrother | that won't change much. But you are free to donate some money to the project ;-) |
19:53:38 | HellDragon | scorche: yeah you were right it takes like 2 years to compile rockbox in cygwin |
19:54:04 | Hilikus | probably the dap companies arent willing to have a fw replace their own after spending money and personel on developing them |
19:54:17 | Hilikus | theirs* |
19:55:12 | bluebrother | I think cheap pirate copies of their product is much more an issue |
19:55:49 | Hilikus | are there?? |
19:55:53 | bluebrother | look at it the other way round: if I go out buying an mp3 player I'll look if it's Rockbox-capable |
19:55:56 | Hilikus | ive never seen a pirate copy of a dap |
19:56:15 | Hilikus | true, thats why i have an iaudio x5 |
19:56:25 | bluebrother | so companies building such players have another kind of market −− even if I don't like the OF I would buy the hardware itself |
19:56:35 | Hilikus | thats what i did |
19:56:38 | bluebrother | there are loads of cheap ipod copies around |
19:56:50 | Hilikus | hehe never seen them |
19:56:57 | bluebrother | they looks slightly different, are much cheaper but work completely different. |
19:56:58 | Hilikus | then again i live in canada |
19:57:00 | | Join grndslm [0] (n=grndslm@24-119-81-201.cpe.cableone.net) |
19:57:11 | bluebrother | just ask ebay −− just noticed one yesterday |
19:58:35 | | Quit Jeton (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) |
20:00 |
20:00:17 | bluebrother | it's usually daps that have an image looking like an ipod but not titled ipod. Just imagine how much people will buy it thinking they got a cheap ipod ... |
20:09:46 | | Join barrywardell [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-249-199.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) |
20:10:08 | | Join amigan [0] (i=dcp1990@ip68-1-188-254.ri.ri.cox.net) |
20:11:29 | | Quit btdubs ("CGI:IRC") |
20:12:17 | | Part digerati1338 |
20:12:29 | Hilikus | are the svn servers up again? |
20:13:24 | nls | Hilikus: svn is up it's the build system that is hung |
20:13:42 | Hilikus | oh ok, i just need to check out the code |
20:13:52 | ender` | only the builds page apparently |
20:13:55 | markun | moos: my condolences |
20:21:28 | | Join bbatbbp1 [0] (n=bb@195.16.244.188) |
20:21:36 | | Part bbatbbp1 |
20:23:06 | | Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
20:25:23 | * | bluebrother wonders why the build system is hanging again |
20:33:14 | | Join btdubs [0] (i=89a5f18d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-27af069c99d5684f) |
20:37:07 | | Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
20:37:40 | | Quit Viljar (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
20:37:43 | | Join Viljar [0] (i=Gspier@88-196-14-134-dsl.rgu.estpak.ee) |
20:38:51 | BRi7X | hmm, i'm leaning towards getting either a toshiba gigabeat x or a cowon iaudio x5... i can't decide which... both are rockbox supported, both have pretty "ownage" features... but i can't decide which... any suggestions? |
20:38:57 | | Join ccitt_ [0] (n=ccitt@c-71-233-155-134.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
20:39:14 | | Join Alonea [0] (n=chatzill@24-117-195-16.cpe.cableone.net) |
20:39:53 | | Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
20:40:18 | | Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D08.dip.t-dialin.net) |
20:40:53 | markun | BRi7X: what would be the reasons to choose either one? |
20:41:02 | markun | do you want recording or radio? |
20:41:09 | BRi7X | ooh, one supports recording? |
20:41:22 | markun | yes, the X5 has radio and recording |
20:41:22 | BRi7X | which one has recording? |
20:41:30 | markun | the Gigabeat has neither |
20:42:25 | BRi7X | i don't really care about radio, but recording would be nice however... |
20:42:27 | markun | for video playback and games the Gigabeat is better I think |
20:42:43 | markun | because the X5 screen is quite low res |
20:43:36 | BRi7X | which is rockbox better for? if any... also, which has easier to use controls, more durability (i'm quite clumsy) etc. |
20:44:02 | markun | both lack in controls a bit |
20:44:13 | markun | I didn't hear good things about the joystick of the X5 |
20:44:33 | markun | and many people find the touchpad of the Gigabeat a bit strange (at least at first) |
20:45:09 | markun | I don't know which is more durable, maybe moos knows (he has both) |
20:45:31 | markun | rockbox runs well on both |
20:45:34 | Alonea | the touchpad does take getting used to, but as long as you remember that you don't have to press it hard, it gets easier |
20:45:49 | markun | yes, true |
20:46:06 | markun | I really like that it's so silent, compared to my iriver h120 at least |
20:46:06 | BRi7X | stranger than the ipod touch wheel? |
20:46:33 | markun | BRi7X: well, it's just a plastic cross which you can touch |
20:46:35 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
20:46:50 | BRi7X | hmm, christian propaganda? |
20:47:07 | markun | not really :) |
20:47:30 | Soap | ccitt: battery maxing out at 75% is most likely a problem with your physical battery. |
20:48:21 | BRi7X | haha, well i guess it's a step out of the ipod world... question about the file transfer... ipod acted like a removable hard drive when plugged into a usb port. i could see it in explorer (a dell dj and a creative jukebox i had from the past did not do that)... does the gigabeat x or iaudio x5 do that? (integration with explorer) |
20:48:43 | markun | yes, both act as normal removable drives |
20:48:48 | | Join barrywardell_ [0] (n=barrywar@host-194-46-248-169.dsl-ie.utvinternet.net) |
20:49:25 | chrisjs169 | Bagder: you on? |
20:50:18 | markun | BRi7X: did you find a place to buy a Gigabeat X? |
20:50:20 | BRi7X | hmm, this is going to be one hell of a decision... do i want bigger screen or recording capabilities... i guess i could check which is more expensive |
20:50:49 | BRi7X | no, are they rare? i did see a iaudio x5 on newegg i think |
20:51:00 | Soap | BRi7X: iPod 5th gen has both the big screen and the recording. ;) |
20:51:00 | markun | X is very rare |
20:51:02 | markun | F not so |
20:51:22 | markun | but is not one of the best rockbox targets |
20:51:30 | Soap | true |
20:52:24 | | Quit ccitt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
20:52:56 | BRi7X | the ones on newegg don't say which gigabeat it is... they give a different number |
20:55:06 | markun | I hope it's not a gigabeat S then.. |
20:55:11 | markun | because it's not supported |
20:55:14 | markun | do you have a link? |
20:56:01 | | Quit barrywardell (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
20:56:03 | BRi7X | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=gigabeat&x=0&y=0 |
20:57:10 | markun | BRi7X: MEGF = F MES = S |
20:57:14 | HellDragon | ah |
20:57:19 | markun | MES doesn't work with rockbox |
20:57:46 | markun | I always thought the S was called MEG-S |
20:58:36 | markun | BRi7X: $215 for a Gigabeat F40 is too much |
20:58:46 | markun | they can be found on ebay for $100 |
20:59:44 | BRi7X | yeah they don't even have the X it seems |
20:59:58 | markun | no, you can only find them in Japan and Australia |
21:00 |
21:00:17 | | Quit Rincewind_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
21:00:45 | BRi7X | oh damn... i guess this is leaning towards an iaudio x5 now |
21:05:08 | markun | BRi7X: or.. look for an even nicer player and start a new rockbox port! :) |
21:07:59 | | Quit foolsh ("Konversation terminated!") |
21:08:16 | BRi7X | haha, i'm no programmer... |
21:08:31 | Alonea | I am just happy with my gigabeat F40. *huggles it lovingly* does everything I could ever want it to. i don't need recording for it or radio. |
21:09:03 | markun | BRi7X: hey the people who started the zune-linux.com project can't program either :) |
21:09:49 | * | markun isn't a big fan of radio either |
21:10:18 | | Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
21:10:33 | markun | mostly because there are no nice channels in the ether |
21:10:49 | Alonea | I live in a city where our choices are tejano, rap, more rap, crappy alternative rock, and sometimes good old rock... |
21:10:52 | | Join tt [0] (n=tthiel@E7c10.e.strato-dslnet.de) |
21:11:12 | | Quit StrafingLobster ("CGI:IRC") |
21:11:39 | BRi7X | yeah, the music i'm into (european power metal) isn't really popular in the usa... so having a nice 30GB semi-full of it, with room for more crap would be quite nice... |
21:12:16 | Alonea | japanese metal for me along with all my other strange music that confuses my friends. |
21:12:36 | markun | no metal here |
21:13:32 | | Part tt ("Kopete 0.9.0 : http://kopete.kde.org") |
21:13:34 | Alonea | didnt see you as the metal type markun. though I don't listen to it that often either. Just when I feel like it. ^__^ |
21:13:36 | markun | but there is too much talking and commercials on the radio |
21:15:02 | Alonea | oh yes...I despise commercials. and I don't want to pay for XM or Sirius, especially when I got a nice cd player in my car with an AUX port for my mp3 player (yay! no going through radio!) |
21:15:21 | | Join lost|X40 [0] (n=lostnihi@c-24-1-62-55.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
21:15:34 | markun | BRi7X: btw, did I tell you the video playback on the Gigabeat is quite nice.. :) |
21:16:34 | Alonea | oh yes...wonderful video playback. I was bored and put all 3 extended versions of LOTR on it. |
21:18:03 | | Join bospaadje [0] (n=bospaadj@ip82-139-84-212.lijbrandt.net) |
21:18:46 | markun | I was thinking about that too :) |
21:18:47 | | Join bishillo [0] (n=bisho@87.218.190.164) |
21:18:53 | markun | but will wait for seeking support |
21:19:01 | bishillo | Hi!!! |
21:19:07 | markun | hi bishillo |
21:19:18 | | Quit foolsh ("Konversation terminated!") |
21:19:20 | bishillo | Rockbox rocks! |
21:19:34 | bishillo | The interface is amazing... |
21:19:45 | | Join petur [0] (n=petur@rockbox/developer/petur) |
21:19:52 | | Join foolsh [0] (n=benjamin@74-135-178-234.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
21:20:03 | bishillo | But now I didn't manage to connect it trought USB... |
21:20:19 | markun | bishillo: which player? |
21:20:21 | BRi7X | so, gigabeat would be the way to go? gigabeat f? or is that a tad too pricy for a jobless 18 year old stilli nhighschool? |
21:20:33 | bishillo | It says: [ 1056.244000] usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10 |
21:20:33 | bishillo | [ 1061.652000] usb 1-1: device not accepting address 10, error -71 |
21:20:40 | bishillo | It's a 30 Gb model |
21:20:58 | markun | 30GB what? |
21:21:04 | bishillo | I have tried several times... I have found some suggeestions to remove the ... |
21:21:11 | bishillo | sorry... it's a video 30 gb |
21:21:14 | toffe82 | BRi7X: it is between 80 and 130$ for a F40 |
21:21:35 | toffe82 | BRi7X: 130 for a new one |
21:21:55 | | Join waf3r [0] (i=Waf3r@client-82-20-36-191.manc.adsl.virgin.net) |
21:21:56 | bishillo | I have tried with ehci and uhci |
21:22:12 | BRi7X | would you say it's better than an ipod5g? (or an iaudiox5) (i'm trying to get as many opinions as i can get) |
21:22:19 | | Quit foolsh (Remote closed the connection) |
21:22:29 | bishillo | But it's still not beign recogniced, so I can't access the device... |
21:22:47 | toffe82 | BRi7X: I have only players from toshiba so I can't say |
21:23:09 | bishillo | The ipodpacher as any option to bood the original firmware? |
21:23:14 | BRi7X | but you do like it, right? |
21:23:21 | markun | bishillo: just a hint, if you don't say 'ipod' we don't know it's an ipod :) |
21:23:33 | bishillo | markun: wops... sorry :) |
21:24:09 | | Join amiconn [0] (n=jens@p54BD6551.dip.t-dialin.net) |
21:24:16 | HellDragon | lol |
21:24:18 | waf3r | hello all, I have an h10 - 20gb iriver can anyone tell me if the FM radio functionality is included in the latest build? |
21:24:41 | | Quit The-Compiler (Remote closed the connection) |
21:25:06 | markun | bishillo: there is some key combination to get the ipod into disc mode (but I don't know which) |
21:25:18 | markun | should be in the IpodFAQ wiki page on the rockbox site |
21:25:24 | * | amiconn pings Bagder |
21:25:31 | bishillo | markun: it's already booting rockbox... |
21:25:40 | | Quit bishillo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
21:25:51 | toffe82 | BRi7X: yes I like it and for the price it is a really good deal |
21:25:52 | | Quit jhulst (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
21:26:01 | | Join bishillo [0] (n=bisho@87.218.190.164) |
21:26:20 | toffe82 | BRi7X: you are in europ ? I think it is difficult to find them there |
21:26:21 | bishillo | Hi again... I was disconnected... |
21:26:32 | | Quit lostnihilist (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
21:26:56 | bishillo | markun: the ipod already boots with rockbox |
21:27:05 | bishillo | Rockbox it's not always in disk mode? |
21:27:37 | markun | bishillo: it should go to disk mode from rockbox yes |
21:27:40 | TrueJournals | waf3r: No, rockbox doesn't have FM support on the H10 yet... |
21:28:08 | waf3r | True: ok thanks any plans to have it? |
21:28:17 | markun | sure |
21:28:37 | TrueJournals | waf3r: Yes, but who knows when they'll get it working |
21:28:39 | bishillo | so... It should be detected, and get an usb address... |
21:29:04 | bishillo | Don't tell me I have broken it... |
21:29:10 | chrisjs169 | where can I find acbuild.pl? |
21:29:12 | markun | bishillo: did it work before installing rockbox? |
21:29:40 | bishillo | yes... |
21:29:57 | BRi7X | toffe82: sorry my remote desktop got disconnected again, but as i was saying, no, i'm in the USA, i just like euro power metal |
21:30:10 | bishillo | it's needed to be able to change the bootloader and put rockbox... |
21:30:28 | waf3r | TrueL: ok I can wait, =) must say I'm well impressed so far I wasn't expecting to have movies and games available when I bought the player |
21:30:52 | toffe82 | BRi7X: ok |
21:30:59 | TrueJournals | I can't wait either ;-) |
21:31:15 | toffe82 | BRi7X: I am the official provider of gigabeat for rockbox ;) |
21:31:44 | BRi7X | toffe82: nice to meet you! |
21:31:53 | waf3r | sorry for the question but whats gigabeat? |
21:32:12 | markun | waf3r: an mp3 player by Toshiba |
21:32:24 | markun | also supported by rockbox (at least the F and X) |
21:33:18 | Alonea | waf3r: its lovely. google it. though the original firmware is quite lacking...I have a GB F-40 |
21:33:26 | markun | BRi7X: he buys Gigabeats which looks like someone drove a truck over them and combines them into a working one :) |
21:33:41 | * | amiconn now thinks the gigabeat has 2 advantages (regarding rockbox) over the ipods |
21:33:54 | toffe82 | markun: don't kill my business ;) |
21:33:58 | markun | amiconn: I'm very curious :) |
21:34:03 | amiconn | (1) Slightly better documented hardware. (2) No nasty dual core |
21:34:20 | markun | amiconn: yes, I agree |
21:34:42 | markun | toffe82: I tried to make a compliment |
21:34:45 | waf3r | ah... I see, really I never even thought most of the things I can do now were even possible, I bought the h10 mainly for its built in radio and recording capabilities I will defiantly be making donations |
21:35:21 | waf3r | next step will be to squeeze in a bigger HD I think =) |
21:36:08 | toffe82 | amiconn: we have all the datasheet for the F and soon the schematics |
21:36:35 | markun | toffe82: just the LCD driver IC.. |
21:36:40 | amiconn | Do you know the lcd controller type meanwhile, and is there a datasheet? |
21:36:44 | chrisjs169 | where can I find acbuild.pl? |
21:37:13 | toffe82 | amiconn: sorry , I my mistake ;) |
21:37:30 | toffe82 | except the lcd ;) |
21:38:08 | waf3r | gigabear is nice :) |
21:38:13 | waf3r | gigabeat* |
21:38:21 | markun | amiconn: there is a patch for sleeping support rockbox rockbox on the gigabeat which includes LCD init code, but I didn't look at it and suspect it's just copied from the OF. |
21:38:32 | amiconn | Oh, I forgot another advantage: the trusty usb-ata bridge instead of software usb |
21:38:43 | | Part Hilikus |
21:38:47 | | Quit Viljar (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
21:38:58 | | Join knapp [0] (n=knapp@67.132.247.218) |
21:39:12 | markun | amiconn: but of course the OF doesn't accept any files you copy over in UMS mode :) |
21:39:33 | toffe82 | lunch time, see you later :) |
21:39:46 | | Quit bishillo (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
21:39:46 | amiconn | Blah, do we care what the OF does? ;) |
21:40:04 | | Join bishillo [0] (n=bisho@87.218.190.164) |
21:40:34 | markun | amiconn: I only care becaue in this case rockbox makes the player a lot better |
21:40:44 | bishillo | markun: any suggestion for the connectivity problem? |
21:40:49 | markun | the difference for the X5 is not so big from what I heard |
21:40:57 | amiconn | Imho it does so on all our targets, otherwise it wouldn't exist... |
21:41:03 | markun | bishillo: no, sorry |
21:41:25 | markun | bishillo: do you have another PC to try on? |
21:41:25 | amiconn | On X5: Longer runtime, more supoorted formats, *wav recording*, ... |
21:41:35 | waf3r | oh yeah I knew there was something else I was going to ask. is it possible to have a background picture, is that a theme thing? |
21:41:46 | amiconn | It's simply silly that the iaudio OF only records to mp3... |
21:41:58 | markun | amiconn: Gigabeat, not possible to put music on it unless you have windows.. :) |
21:42:11 | | Join bbatbbpc [0] (n=bb@195.16.244.188) |
21:42:14 | amiconn | ...and there is another silly limitation in that the recorded files are limited to 512MB |
21:42:15 | bishillo | markun: I have two linux machines... |
21:42:27 | | Part bbatbbpc |
21:42:30 | bishillo | I will try tomorrow with a windows one at the office |
21:42:41 | markun | bishillo: both with the same problem? |
21:42:47 | waf3r | 512MB is not that much of a limitation =) |
21:42:52 | amiconn | markun: I do have windows, so no problem on that side. But even the I love to have flexibility |
21:43:07 | | Join Jeton [0] (n=chatzill@85.30.90.74) |
21:43:16 | bishillo | markun: yeah... same problem :((( |
21:43:23 | * | amiconn chose his first MP3 player with the main criterium being USB MSD support |
21:43:32 | markun | bishillo: did you try to reboot into disk mode? |
21:43:41 | bishillo | how? |
21:43:51 | Alonea | markun: gigabeat X right? thats the one thats windows only? |
21:43:52 | markun | should be in the IpodFAQ wiki |
21:43:56 | waf3r | I can only get my h10 to work in disk mode but its not that big an issue really |
21:43:59 | amiconn | ...because I had no windows pc, linux pc or mac at that time. Only an Amiga with an USB card |
21:43:59 | bishillo | I have rebooted the machine... but it juast load rockbox |
21:44:06 | markun | Alonea: and F |
21:44:07 | bishillo | is there any other way? |
21:44:22 | markun | Alonea: or what do you mean? |
21:44:28 | Jeton | is this going to be added as a patch? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7087 |
21:44:38 | Alonea | markun: F-40? I have my F-40 on linux all the time. |
21:44:49 | markun | bishillo: yes, there is a key combo |
21:44:50 | Jeton | Because it needs some imporvements. The scrollwheel isn't calibrated correctly |
21:45:04 | Jeton | you need to scroll 3-4 times for a line to change. |
21:45:10 | chrisjs169 | Jeton: it's already a patch... |
21:45:16 | Jeton | By default it should be one scroll, one line. |
21:46:04 | bishillo | markun: whoooho! |
21:46:08 | bishillo | it worked... |
21:46:16 | Alonea | markun: you mean connecting the usb and transferring files right? |
21:46:19 | bishillo | Set + Play just after reboot... |
21:46:23 | | Quit XavierGr () |
21:46:36 | bishillo | thanks a lot! |
21:46:44 | markun | Alonea: files which you actually can play.. |
21:46:51 | bishillo | I was scared of brickified my ipod |
21:46:52 | markun | bishillo: no problem |
21:46:54 | Jeton | chrisjs169: but there's not post about it on the patches. |
21:47:07 | Jeton | or i'm having trouble understanding the name |
21:47:17 | Jeton | i wanted to comment about those issues i mentioned above |
21:47:26 | Jeton | but i don't know where to post |
21:47:39 | Alonea | markun: yeah. I added music recently and its fine. I hears it was just the X that could not connect to Linux. F series is fine |
21:47:45 | | Quit SirFunk (No route to host) |
21:47:49 | Jeton | Opening a new Feature request for a feature that has been accepted doesn't make sense. |
21:48:12 | markun | Alonea: but you used rockbox, right? |
21:48:23 | bishillo | bye! |
21:48:25 | | Quit bishillo ("Ex-Chat") |
21:48:48 | markun | Alonea: I was talking about the OF |
21:49:23 | Alonea | markun: oh, are you talking about with the original firmware? Oh, ok. yeah, have no idea if you could wine it or not.. |
21:49:31 | chrisjs169 | Jeton: sorry, didn't realize it was a Feature request and not a patch |
21:49:45 | markun | Alonea: well, it's possible now with gphoto, but not when I started the port |
21:50:24 | Jeton | chrisjs169: no problem. I'm the one confused by all these terms ;) |
21:51:01 | waf3r | you know I was thinking, if you have a line-in would it be possible to make a fully functioning oscilloscope? |
21:51:13 | Alonea | markun: gphoto? it will encode the files into the .sat then? |
21:51:24 | Alonea | markun: not that I would ever do it. |
21:52:18 | markun | Alonea: yes, but only with the cradle |
21:53:51 | | Join lexinc [0] (n=lexinc@24.69.222.235) |
21:54:53 | lexinc | Hey, I'm having a problem installing rockbox bootloader. |
21:55:30 | lexinc | it gives me an error message that says : cannot execute binary file |
21:55:41 | lexinc | this is for the sansa e250 |
21:55:45 | Alonea | markun: still have cradle sitting on a table not being used. interesting though. of course any poor linux person who actually manages to use the OF on linux without knowing about rockbox would be very depressing indeed. |
21:56:47 | | Join SirFunk [0] (n=Sir@cpe-74-71-205-222.twcny.res.rr.com) |
21:57:18 | | Part maffe |
21:57:18 | markun | Alonea: btw, also the X should work with rockbox and linux |
21:57:36 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: do you have sansa.mi4 on your sansa? |
21:57:41 | | Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) |
21:57:45 | | Quit maffe (Remote closed the connection) |
21:57:47 | | Quit hannesd (Client Quit) |
21:57:51 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: wait, installing the bootloader? |
21:57:53 | lexinc | I installed the .rockbox file |
21:58:08 | lexinc | it has it inside the folder |
21:58:10 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: what are you using to install the bootloader? |
21:58:34 | lexinc | terminal program to install (ubuntu) |
21:58:42 | Alonea | markun: i dont remember who said, but it was something to do with the usb on one of the gigabeats that would not work (probably works now.) with linux...not all usb tech savvy. know more about software than hardware |
21:58:51 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: what command? |
21:59:05 | | Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) |
21:59:11 | lexinc | ./sansapatcher |
21:59:16 | | Join simmel [0] (i=simmel@unaffiliated/simmel) |
21:59:22 | chrisjs169 | ok, hold on |
22:00 |
22:00:35 | | Quit davina ("byeeeeee!") |
22:00:52 | simmel | I have an iAudio X5L and I'm setting Battery Capacity setting to 2250mAh but still it says 10hrs left on battery when the battery actually is out. |
22:02:52 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: sorry, I can't figure out what's causing it |
22:03:08 | lexinc | chrisjs169: thanks for trying |
22:03:40 | chrisjs169 | try recompiling it....that error message isn't from sansapatcher |
22:04:41 | lexinc | recompiling? |
22:05:16 | lexinc | recompile the sansapatcher? okay |
22:05:57 | waf3r | oh yeah I knew there was something else I was going to ask. is it possible to have a background picture, is that a theme thing? |
22:06:33 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: yeah |
22:06:55 | lexinc | chrisjs169: hey, maybe 32bit version will work |
22:07:06 | TrueJournals | waf3r: That is a theme thing, but you can also use a bmp file that is the size of your screen. Then, browse to it, hold "O" until the menu comes up, and choose "Set as backdrop" |
22:07:49 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
22:07:57 | waf3r | ah excellent, thanks TJ |
22:08:23 | TrueJournals | No problem |
22:08:35 | waf3r | is there a theme editor software or is it manually done atm? |
22:08:54 | lexinc | Oh hey it works now. |
22:09:02 | chrisjs169 | lexinc: ok |
22:09:12 | TrueJournals | Themes are usually made manually I believe |
22:09:30 | chrisjs169 | They can be edited via rockbox though |
22:09:40 | | Quit freqmod_n (Remote closed the connection) |
22:09:41 | waf3r | I'll have to get photoshop out then :) |
22:15:03 | | Part maffe |
22:15:15 | | Part TrueJournals |
22:15:18 | | Join maffe [0] (n=maffe@195.159.148.248) |
22:15:57 | | Quit waf3r () |
22:22:22 | | Join Rincewind [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6F575.versanet.de) |
22:22:24 | | Quit Nibbier (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) |
22:25:13 | | Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-177-141.dynamic.qsc.de) |
22:26:30 | | Join donutman25 [0] (n=chatzill@24.244.160.233) |
22:28:42 | | Join pixelma [0] (i=pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) |
22:33:37 | chrisjs169 | where can I get the public key for the build servers? |
22:34:21 | | Quit linuxstb_ ("CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)") |
22:35:01 | | Join Thundercloud_ [0] (n=thunderc@82.152.252.17) |
22:36:35 | | Join ctaf [0] (n=ctaf@ram94-6-82-242-23-70.fbx.proxad.net) |
22:36:47 | | Part ctaf |
22:42:45 | | Join linuxstb_ [0] (i=5343d4aa@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) |
22:44:03 | | Quit bawb2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
22:46:38 | *** | Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" |
22:48:56 | | Quit Thundercloud (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
22:54:48 | | Quit chrisjs169 ("Konversation terminated!") |
22:55:18 | | Join chrisjs169 [0] (n=jack@pool-71-114-131-29.hrbgpa.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
22:56:31 | linuxstb_ | chrisjs169: You should talk to Bagder about getting your build server added. |
22:59:44 | simmel | I have an iAudio X5L and I'm setting Battery Capacity setting to 2250mAh but still it says 10hrs left on battery when the battery actually is out. |
23:00 |
23:00:04 | simmel | *rinse, repeat* |
23:01:19 | | Join jhulst [0] (n=jhulst@71-10-136-176.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
23:04:05 | | Join San [0] (n=undergro@213-202-187-193.bas504.dsl.esat.net) |
23:05:16 | petur | simmel: runtime indication is far from correct if not calibrated correctly for your target. there have been talks about removing it, so don't mind/use that indicator |
23:06:44 | Soap | simmel: clarify what you mean by battery being "out". Do you mean the battery is physically removed from the player - or that the battery is of very low charge? |
23:06:54 | | Quit grndslm (Operation timed out) |
23:07:52 | amiconn | Battery percentage on X5(L) and M5(L) is calibrated, runtime estimation is not (yet) |
23:11:14 | | Quit BRi7X (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
23:14:06 | simmel | Soap Battery beeing out of power. I can't remove the battery. |
23:14:28 | simmel | petur "It worked before" IIRC. |
23:14:36 | Soap | what percentage does Rockbox show shortly before it dies? |
23:14:53 | chrisjs169 | linuxstb_: talking to Bagder now |
23:14:55 | | Quit merbanan (Remote closed the connection) |
23:15:04 | * | petur doesn't use runtime estimation |
23:16:06 | simmel | Soap Uhm, I didn't take notice of that, but 10hrs that I remember. I have set the Battery Capacity setting to what the iAudio X5L has. |
23:16:45 | simmel | amiconn Ok, I |
23:16:58 | simmel | amiconn Ok, I'll add another skin which takes use of the percentage then. |
23:21:56 | | Quit Sanit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) |
23:22:25 | | Quit jhulst ("Konversation terminated!") |
23:23:17 | amiconn | simmel: Even with runtime estimation not properly calibrated, it should show something near zero before shutting down |
23:24:28 | amiconn | With the uncalibrated runtime estimation on X5 (L), 10 hours for an X5L mean that around 2/3 of the battery capacity should be still available... |
23:24:32 | * | Bagder disables the two slowest build servers |
23:24:46 | amiconn | Bagder: Which are? |
23:25:05 | Bagder | slappy.coraline.org and builder.fnarfbargle.com |
23:25:25 | Bagder | both used > 300 second for a single build |
23:25:28 | linuxstb_ | Bagder: I was about to ask you about slappy... |
23:25:30 | Bagder | seconds |
23:25:56 | amiconn | Bah, the new server has that buggy native gcc |
23:26:10 | amiconn | (the one that throws warnings in synth.c for correct code) |
23:26:15 | Bagder | yes, it looks like the same problem we've seen before |
23:26:42 | amiconn | Yes, the bad dev snapshot of 4.1.2 (reporting itself as 4.1.1) |
23:26:58 | amiconn | debian had that 9 months ago or so.... |
23:30:24 | | Join webguest78 [0] (i=513a8d72@gateway/web/cgi-irc/labb.contactor.se/x-0f62aa240e1c7307) |
23:30:51 | Bagder | ender` is the owner of that server |
23:31:24 | webguest78 | Hi, is it possible to change the background in rockbox (for Ipod)? |
23:32:05 | linuxstb_ | webguest78: Yes. Which ipod do you have? |
23:32:35 | | Quit Nibbier (Remote closed the connection) |
23:33:24 | webguest78 | I have an 5.5G video |
23:33:29 | ender` | Bagder: problems? |
23:33:38 | Bagder | ender`: just your native compiler being silly |
23:33:57 | ender` | oh? |
23:34:16 | Bagder | http://build.rockbox.org/showlog.cgi?date=20070506T210423Z&type=iriver%20IFP7xx%20-%20Simulator |
23:34:34 | linuxstb_ | webguest78: Then you need to create a 320x240 bmp file, copy it to the .rockbox/backdrops/ folder on your ipod, browse to it in the file browser, hold down SELECT to bring up the context menu, then choose "Set as backdrop". |
23:34:50 | Bagder | ender`: that's a gcc 4.1.2 snapshot isn't it? |
23:35:03 | ender` | not according to gentoo |
23:35:33 | moos | markun :yup :-( that's a national drama, and for 5 years |
23:35:35 | webguest78 | aah ok tyvm *hug* |
23:35:58 | ender` | 4.1.1-r3 |
23:36:19 | Bagder | ender`: oh, well the warning we see there are no longer appearing with later versions of gcc anyway |
23:36:26 | pixelma | [23:26:44] <amiconn> Yes, the bad dev snapshot of 4.1.2 (reporting itself as 4.1.1) (?) |
23:36:37 | ender` | i could upgrade to 4.1.2 |
23:36:44 | | Quit Jeton ("ChatZilla 0.9.78.1 [Firefox 2.0.0.3/2007030919]") |
23:36:59 | ender` | gentoo does add quite a few patches to gcc |
23:42:42 | | Quit miepchen^schlaf (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) |
23:43:02 | | Join miepchen^schlaf [0] (n=hihi@p54BF4D08.dip.t-dialin.net) |
23:43:17 | Bagder | we got those warnings in the past when we used some particular debian unstable gcc version |
23:44:29 | | Part maffe |
23:45:17 | | Join Nibbier [0] (n=sven@port-212-202-177-141.dynamic.qsc.de) |
23:49:03 | | Join H10_007quick [0] (n=chatzill@mnet-ki-244-78-181.monarch.net) |
23:49:32 | | Join Rincewind_ [0] (n=xchatter@i3ED6E765.versanet.de) |
23:49:38 | H10_007quick | I'm working with an old patch and am wondering were the code for apps/menu_settings.c went? |
23:49:44 | H10_007quick | Is it just gone? |
23:51:20 | | Part nls |
23:52:25 | | Join TrueJournals [0] (n=aimjourn@c-24-12-147-61.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
23:52:37 | linuxstb_ | Maybe apps/menus/settings_menu.c ? |
23:53:27 | H10_007quick | thank you! |
23:53:43 | ender` | for gentoo, the gcc i'm using is considered stable |
23:54:34 | H10_007quick | Oh and you know that little message that you always get that says "hit play to continue anything else is cancel" or somtihing like that, when you delete files and such. Where would the code for that be? |
23:55:12 | ender` | anyway, i'm off to bed, need to be up early tomorrow morning |
23:56:00 | * | linuxstb_ waits for the quit message |
23:56:14 | | Quit ender` (" According to the FAA, the propeller blade didn't break off, it was just a case of "uncontained blade liberation."") |
23:56:35 | petur | H10_007quick: search for the srting in english.lang, then for the ID in the source tree |
23:57:21 | linuxstb_ | It's probably gui/yesno.,c |